Western Standard - The Pipeline. September 2, 2020

00:00:00.000 all right we're live great well welcome to the pipeline from western standard we're discussing

00:00:20.960 this week's news and a number of items with myself corey morgan the columnist and digital

00:00:25.600 editor and our publisher derek phildebrand we've got a lot of polls to dig through today federally

00:00:32.640 and provincially which uh have some interesting and perhaps depressing things for a number of

00:00:37.200 people to go over uh mad max has made the news again he's uh got a new strategy that's uh questionable

00:00:45.040 i think at the least but uh we're talking about uh so mad it probably still won't work

00:00:51.680 well no probably not and uh we'll also touch on it looks like blm has found a new place to put their

00:01:00.080 mural downtown in calgary after the uproar from the last time they tried to force it through yeah

00:01:06.560 so to begin with we'll look at the the federal picture with some polling numbers uh leger came

00:01:11.760 out with one about a week ago and uh hey you don't need to look at me the poll's prettier

00:01:19.760 and it uh has the the liberals still leading the the conservatives at 35 to 29 on the on the federal

00:01:26.640 scene and the ndp actually climbed a bit to 21 percent uh but their picture was saying if there's

00:01:33.760 going to be a federal election we've got another term of trudeau coming in possibly a majority

00:01:40.880 at 35 it probably still gets you another minority government that being said i think liberal minority

00:01:48.560 governments are always more extreme than majority liberal governments because they are they invariably

00:01:52.720 rely on the ndp for support meaning to go even further left than liberals would on their own

00:01:57.600 so i you know if you're going to have a liberal government you actually want a liberal majority

00:02:00.880 instead of a liberal minority yeah well we all have either the the uh block wagging the liberal dog

00:02:05.680 or the ndp both of which are going to pull them hard left and certainly not do the west any favors

00:02:11.440 another interesting thing they asked about i guess during that poll

00:02:14.720 was on the conservative leadership race and half of the people polled didn't even know the federal

00:02:19.840 conservative party was holding a leadership race much less had an opinion on it which might have

00:02:25.440 helped if they didn't release the announcement announced the results around one o'clock in the

00:02:29.520 morning eastern time roughly eleven o'clock here they didn't do themselves any favors but it's also too

00:02:35.040 bad because a leadership race is often an opportunity to really get out there the candidates the party

00:02:40.560 itself would be visible i mean some degree of that can be attributed to the covet i mean it's it's

00:02:47.440 really made it hard for them to do it traditionally you can't get big rallies you can't uh they also

00:02:51.680 didn't have much in the way of outside of leslin lewis and maybe derek sloan in his own way there

00:02:57.360 wasn't really much of a policy battle in this race either it was mostly a battle of personalities

00:03:01.680 and style between mckay and o'toole so that probably adds to their really not being much attention to

00:03:08.560 the race it just really wasn't about very much no and then the next poll though we came out from angus

00:03:13.760 reed today which is a race uh it has the conservatives and the liberals at a essentially a dead heat

00:03:21.200 and it seems to cut away a bit from the ndp uh that is this a post leadership bounce perhaps or was the

00:03:29.360 other one an outlier uh it looks more promising that maybe some things even the other one was

00:03:35.200 although the other one it was a bit a week ago still after their leadership the other one was still

00:03:41.200 better for the conservatives than a lot of the previous ones that had the liberals in full-on

00:03:45.360 majority government territory it had them at least putting them into minority government territory

00:03:50.160 so both of them are still trending positively for the conservatives but still nowhere near being

00:03:55.440 government and and you know folks need to remember uh andrew shearer was not being truthful when he said

00:04:01.200 the party with the most seats gets to form government no it's the party that can command uh the confidence

00:04:07.760 of a majority of members of the house of commons so you know even if the conservatives have the most

00:04:13.360 seats but not a majority they're probably still not going to be the government uh the liberals would

00:04:17.920 very likely get support from the ndp block or a combination thereof uh to continue governing so

00:04:23.600 the conservatives need to be at least around 38 to have any chance of being the governor they're

00:04:30.080 creeping there we can't read too much in really because otul has just got his feet underneath i mean

00:04:34.480 he just was elected as the leader of the party as we saw a lot of people didn't even know there was a

00:04:38.720 race so hopefully they can overcome that uh you know people don't even really know who the heck he is what

00:04:43.920 he does stand for uh i've seen some of the knives out on social media of course they're immediately

00:04:50.000 coming out to try and take him out that's not surprising or anything like that it'll be interesting

00:04:54.720 to see how he deals with that the party itself seems to be fairly unified we're not seeing anybody

00:05:00.080 stomping out the door or having tantrums over as we discussed on the night he was elected leader

00:05:05.600 um he he's in a uniquely good such uh scenario vis-a-vis dealing with uh leadership rivals in

00:05:14.480 this because none of his significant rivals are even in the caucus um derrick sloan is the only one

00:05:20.400 uh one of his leadership rivals that had a seat and the only endorsement he had from caucus was

00:05:25.120 himself um but lesaline lewis not an np as far as i know she had no caucus endorsements whatsoever peter

00:05:33.040 mckay had quite a few caucus endorsements but has no seat so it's not like those guys are sitting

00:05:37.600 around there as a daily presence as a potential uh rallying point of malcontent uh so i think o

00:05:45.280 tool is gonna have a pretty easy time bringing these guys together yeah well the polls are snapshots you

00:05:50.560 know of course people say that and they change and they go up and down but they're really i think

00:05:53.760 important right now a lot of people are watching them because i mean the liberals are in a precarious

00:05:58.000 position they're considering well they prorogue parliament i i don't think it's out of their minds to

00:06:02.480 perhaps call a snap election if they think they can improve where they're sitting is they're going

00:06:06.720 to go into a really rough year uh but they're watching those polls like hawks and if it looks

00:06:11.200 like it's neck and neck or they're losing they're not going to pull the pin but if they suddenly pull

00:06:14.800 away i i got a feeling we're all going to be going to the polls this fall and to get when you're in a

00:06:19.600 minority government there has to be a real aligning of the planets either the government needs to be

00:06:24.720 far enough ahead in the polls that it thinks it's worth the risk of calling an election itself or

00:06:29.120 engineering its own defeat that's one way uh that's what happened for the 2011 election harper

00:06:35.280 engineered his own defeat uh because he was high enough in the polls he says yeah i'm happy to have

00:06:40.000 an election let's go um the other way is what you saw going into the 2005-6 election where paul martin

00:06:47.440 was defeated by harper and when that happens you need all three major opposition parties at the same

00:06:53.600 time to be up in the polls and the government to be down consequently so you know even if just the

00:06:58.960 conservatives are up if the ndp is down or the bloc is down any one of all three opposition parties not

00:07:04.480 being in a good position for an election it doesn't happen you need all three to be in a positive

00:07:09.120 position for it to happen to then get a successful vote of non-confidence and if it's tough the liberals

00:07:13.680 would want to manufacture a hill to die on something to go with the election on something that's so odious

00:07:17.600 that it'll unify the opposition parties yet at the same time not so bad that they're going to lose votes

00:07:22.400 and the thing is if you're going to unify the conservatives the ndp and the bloc three very

00:07:26.880 different parties well the ndp and the block are kind of two different flavors of the same thing

00:07:30.800 but they're they're different if you're going to unify all three on an issue it's hard to do that on

00:07:35.360 policy you can generally only unify them like in 2006 like the conservatives could unify the liberals

00:07:40.800 the ndp and bloc in 2011 because they were all to the left of the conservatives but for paul martin to

00:07:47.200 unify the conservatives the ndp and the bloc 2005-6 that had to be over an ethics issue that was the

00:07:53.040 sponsorship scandal yeah which we all seem to forget about now but uh that was an ethics issue and it

00:07:58.800 kind of cuts across partisan and ideological lines it's harder for i mean like that that is seemingly

00:08:05.280 the only way um and trudeau can't he might engineer these ethics issues but they're not intentional

00:08:12.400 so he's not going to and for him to engineer an issue that would unify all three major opposition

00:08:17.840 parties it's very difficult to find one that is based on um uh that is based on the uh that is

00:08:26.400 based on simple policy and not not uh not ethics well and they're all in a precarious position to see

00:08:32.400 a question well we'll get to him maybe actually after we get to the through the uh pulling on the

00:08:36.400 premiers and then maybe we'll come to what we're seeing there oh i was just going to speak on camera

00:08:40.240 below it i'm probably destroying your name but he asked a valid question who in their right mind

00:08:44.960 would vote liberal after all the scandal lies and corruption but we saw that in the last election

00:08:49.520 we've seen it now 35 apparently will vote that way and when you're looking into ontario and quebec

00:08:54.560 a great deal more i mean it's just that question what does it take well ultimately the conservatives

00:09:01.360 do the same thing when it's their own party people ultimately some people will change their vote

00:09:06.000 based on lies corruption scandals things like that but ultimately you're not going to vote

00:09:10.800 for a different party that you vehemently disagree with in the vast majority of cases

00:09:15.200 so you know a kind of blue liberal red tory they might switch their vote between the two

00:09:21.920 if there's ethics issues but you know rocker conservatives aren't going to you know when

00:09:26.400 the conservatives do terrible and corrupt things they're not going to pack up and vote liberal or ndv

00:09:31.200 and a hard you know a more left-leaning liberal or a new democrat or green party person's not going to

00:09:35.760 pack up and vote conservative there's got to be a swing somewhere or we're going to be in this

00:09:39.920 stalemate forever there is a swing there's about half a million voters in the 905 surrounding

00:09:46.880 toronto they get to decide everything in this country they get to pick they're the only voters in

00:09:52.160 this country that matter if you're watching this broadcast you're probably in the west i'm sorry

00:09:56.960 your vote doesn't matter neither is mine neither is chorus and then getting on to polls somebody

00:10:02.320 else who's languishing in them and having a hell of a hard time is jason kenny so the latest approval

00:10:08.000 polls came out and it put premier kenny in the second worst position in the entire country at 42 percent

00:10:15.520 approval you know a lot of premiers are getting a bit of a bounce they're they're they're doug ford

00:10:21.280 is uh sitting quite well with it the covet people are seeing well he was the least popular premier

00:10:25.680 in the country before covet but he was in the basement and they're appreciating his leadership

00:10:29.920 on this and he's riding high on it uh among some of the others but jason kenny just cannot seem to

00:10:35.120 grab traction in alberta as a new premier uh no matter what he tries well it was interesting so i mean 42

00:10:43.520 isn't actually terrible i mean it's not bottom basement but it's it's not great either but it's

00:10:49.200 we got to remember it's relative to the other premiers the other premiers have almost all seen

00:10:53.280 significant increases in popularity um in the case of the last place premier in newfoundland

00:10:59.600 uh fury i think the name is uh he's brand new on the job i think the newfoundland liberals are mired

00:11:07.280 and heavy scandal it's the party itself that's wildly unpopular right now they have a whole different

00:11:12.080 mess going on yeah it's a different thing going on in newfoundland uh and labrador and i i think so

00:11:18.960 i think it's more of the party pulling them down there uh kenny's 42 isn't terrible but uh you know

00:11:25.680 relative to the bump everyone else got it's it's it's pretty bad uh but one thing that was kind

00:11:30.080 of lost in the headline here like so the graphic we've got up from angus reed uh that's the approval

00:11:35.600 but uh very interesting is also the disapproval rating and the net approval rating so the disapproval

00:11:41.280 rating is those who actively disagree and you know then and then there's the net approval the net of the

00:11:48.080 two uh so so both of those are interesting and on both of those kenny ranks is the worst of the

00:11:53.040 country or the least popular i should say it has nothing to do with how good or not you're doing

00:11:57.680 generally but uh you know by that he's got the highest disapproval in the country and the worst

00:12:03.680 net approval in the country if i'm not mistaken um but the pollsters are kind of mixed about what's

00:12:10.080 behind that i don't really think it's covid uh i mean alberta a similar polling has shown uh you

00:12:17.200 know we had i think uh i i was listening to someone from angus reed the executive director

00:12:22.720 and she was saying it's hard to put a finger on how covet is affecting polling in alberta and

00:12:27.200 approval in alberta because in other provinces that demand a more heavy hand where voters would

00:12:33.040 want a heavy-handed approach to covet in alberta it's mixed you've got some people who want you

00:12:37.120 know we've got our karens who want more more more but there's a significant body of people in alberta

00:12:42.080 who uh i'm not just talking about you know the crazy guys who will stand on the corner with

00:12:46.560 signs saying that this is all a conspiracy yeah uh but people who don't believe that the government

00:12:51.680 should be taking a heavy-handed role in this shutting down businesses destroying people's

00:12:55.920 livelihoods but i i think covet is very i think the pollsters are really missing it and trying to

00:13:02.320 because they're unscientifically saying well it must be covet because covet's everything no i mean

00:13:05.840 there's a lot of other things going on it's uh i think there's a fair bit of discontent from the

00:13:11.440 fallout of the fair deal report when that really was kind of a flop it didn't go nearly as far as

00:13:16.960 a lot of people were hoping it would um we're running 24 billion dollar deaths at the biggest

00:13:22.080 of the province's history more than twice over the next record which was which was set by notly

00:13:27.520 uh so i i think a lot of this i'm not a big bias but i think a lot of this is more of grumbling and

00:13:33.040 discontent on the right than people all of a sudden deciding they want the ndp back because

00:13:38.160 the ndp has not moved in the polls since the election no and that's something to be noted

00:13:41.200 is this is an approval of the premier it's not uh you know a lot of people might say i don't like

00:13:45.840 kenny i don't approve of him but at the same time there's no bloody way i'm voting adp i'll still vote

00:13:49.440 at ucp i'm just you're angry about high taxes covid lockdowns and and uh deficits that doesn't mean

00:13:55.520 you're going to turn around and vote with the socialists no so i mean you know that that's why

00:14:00.880 you know we need more pulling around the horse races in alberta but how people will vote including

00:14:06.080 some of the kind of the newer alternatives to the right of the tories um that that might have

00:14:10.800 a bit more insight than this because simply as you said disapproving of kenny doesn't mean you're

00:14:14.320 going to just vote for the other party yeah well and somebody mentioned here uh eldon simmons uh i

00:14:20.400 think kenny's reading so low because he's somewhat centrist and he has opposition on both the left and

00:14:24.160 the right i i don't know if i'd call kenny a centrist necessarily but he is getting beat on

00:14:28.800 from the left and the right and some of the people when it comes to uh what you're taking with the

00:14:32.400 the the covid measures uh and of course the the people pursuing independence uh the wilders

00:14:37.440 independence party's gaining some steam and and they're eating some of his lunch over there on

00:14:41.360 the right and yeah not not rachel not least but of course going great guns on the left so he's getting

00:14:45.680 picked at from both sides and and uh he's been having a difficulty sliding through the middle i don't

00:14:50.240 think it's fair to call him a centrist i i would call him a a center-right conventional conservative

00:14:57.360 you know he used a lot of populist language but that's pretty much gone now the odd little flash

00:15:03.200 in the pan like the sir john mcdonald statue and stuff even i was like yeah okay i'm not even a

00:15:08.240 huge mcdonald fan but i was you know i hate i hate these iconoclastic blm vandals so i was like sure

00:15:14.800 bring it so other than the odd little flash in the pan he's not very populist anymore and it's and it has

00:15:19.840 really created a vacuum particularly on the alberta identity issue uh it has created a vacuum on the right

00:15:26.160 the media generally don't pull anything to the right because they can't conceive of anything to

00:15:29.840 the right of jason kenney uh the media as far as they're concerned he is the edge and beyond here

00:15:35.200 be dragons um so so they have a hard time conceptualizing anything like that i see somebody

00:15:41.600 else had been commenting uh that uh they've been trying to FOIP some some more information on the

00:15:47.520 fair deal panel report i'm not sure the specifics of what's going on there on whether it was all released

00:15:51.520 or not i actually put a FOIP request in on that as well back when uh they said they were going to

00:15:56.400 withhold it and of course at this point well it's been released so yeah so this is from cw alexander

00:16:02.160 uh he's FOIPed uh follow the freedom of information go back down yeah sorry they followed the freedom of

00:16:08.400 information request uh for the full fair deal report and they've uh apparently i we haven't checked this

00:16:16.720 but i know he's pretty into this topic so we'll we're going to fact check this and if this is the

00:16:22.080 case we'll do a story um that they've redacted 138 pages and emails now in the cases of emails um

00:16:30.400 the freedom of information act does allow them to cover up emails and uh addresses etc that could

00:16:38.240 compromise the personal information of people in the public uh sometimes that's actually fair because

00:16:43.360 it's just joe blow and you don't want him getting uh what's it called in the uh production

00:16:49.680 you don't want them getting doxxed picked on uh but at the same time you know when i've used freedom

00:16:54.720 information in the past i've found very connected business people who are uh you know doing nefarious

00:17:03.520 things with the government and getting things in exchange um so anyway we'll have to take a look at

00:17:08.160 this but thanks for letting us know cw we're gonna we'll be in contact with you

00:17:12.880 uh probably dave now our news editor i think that might have been dave there commenting as western

00:17:17.840 standard that's that's true is original not least daily nag sessions working that's another way to

00:17:24.400 put it it's beginning also almost i i gotta admit as we watch the social media scrolls and i think the

00:17:29.280 majority of voters don't but boy it's that fixation on the corporate tax giveaway to a corporate tax

00:17:34.400 giveaway she's running one of those dolls to pull the string out it just says something over and over

00:17:38.320 i mean true but like sometimes that were i mean who how many people do you think out of a hundred

00:17:44.000 people in alberta watch a question period on a regular basis dorks like less i know i don't even

00:17:49.280 watch it i can't stand it and i was in the damn thing yeah uh i'd like to think i made it more

00:17:53.600 entertaining but even then not many people would watch it uh so if your your message is gonna break

00:17:58.720 through you've really got to stick to a couple themes yeah and you know the ndp are going with that

00:18:03.920 strategy uh i think it's really easy just to chase the squirrels every day when you're there uh

00:18:10.160 there's something to be said for sticking with it you know wild rose we hit the damn carbon tax every

00:18:14.560 single day but we would hit a bunch of other things uh but you know so it's a part of trying

00:18:18.880 to keep your message consistent but i think it's the tone of the ndp they they haven't accepted they

00:18:23.440 lost the election they haven't accepted that um you know they they personally hate jason kenney

00:18:31.680 and while you know kenny as an individual might not be terribly popular uh conservatism is and they

00:18:39.600 have a hard time squaring the circle that uh you know while the center of gravity might be to the

00:18:46.320 left in canada nationally in alberta it is very clearly on the right and the ndp feel that you know

00:18:52.880 if they just keep on doing this they're going to change the channel and people will come around to

00:18:56.240 them i wouldn't be hopeful for them well then final quick comment before we move on to the next one

00:19:00.640 from calvin delay jones just saying that coleman covet has shown uh just how weak uh jason kenny is

00:19:05.680 i i don't know and necessarily everything is just to be blamed on that or not but a crisis really does

00:19:09.520 either bring a leadership a leader to shine or sink and that he sees in the middle of a crisis and he's

00:19:14.720 going to have to start shining pretty soon uh getting on to leaders trying to grab traction though uh

00:19:20.480 mad max has made the news again uh well finally we haven't heard much from him in a while the latest

00:19:26.720 was that the party had been paying him uh on uh six fingers as well i guess uh the party funds which

00:19:32.480 is not uncommon for a leader who's out of uh office it's actually reasonable i mean if you know he's

00:19:37.520 their main fundraiser for the party anyway he's working full-time he's raising money he's essentially

00:19:42.160 an employee of the party at this point since he's not a member of parliament i think that's reasonable

00:19:46.000 but it is more or less the last time we heard of him until yesterday until now and he's announced

00:19:49.680 that he's considering running in one of those two by-elections whether in toronto center or

00:19:53.600 york center which are two of the safest liberal seats in the country almost these two okay york

00:20:00.720 center and toronto center are the sodom and the gomorrah of conservatism in canada they are the most

00:20:07.600 liberal of liberal seats they are both in downtown toronto uh what could he possibly be trying to

00:20:14.800 achieve by this no i mean the conservatives with a red tory managed to crack at toronto center once and

00:20:20.080 i think in the last 80 years and then it was only one term and he won by 80 votes and 88 in a big

00:20:26.160 toronto yeah where they won just about everything and then they got turfed out in the 93 election

00:20:31.200 so i mean i i guess there's there's some strategy and max is trying to get the news trying to get the

00:20:35.920 scroll i mean you want to be seen because you have been falling by the wayside but when the news shows

00:20:40.960 you running in that by-election coming in at two percent support is that doing yourself any favors whatsoever

00:20:46.480 you know if you're going to be claiming to be building a party of viability i think you're i

00:20:51.840 think you're right he's he's trying to get the exposure to talk about his issues keep the people's

00:20:57.120 party in the spotlight a bit but it seems to me to be a very short-sighted strategy yeah he'll get

00:21:06.560 mentioned from time to time for something he says that the all candidates debate will be one or two

00:21:10.640 probably during the by-election uh but he's gonna get smoked i mean the the the tories could run the

00:21:18.960 most milquetoast red that you could find and they're still gonna get smoked the conservatives

00:21:25.120 would need to be pushing north of 50 to win this the people's party nationally the media aren't really

00:21:31.760 pulling it anymore so it's it's hard to say uh i think it's probably down from the federal election

00:21:36.560 because in the west i think that the the discontented conservatives conservative vote is looking more

00:21:42.560 towards the western independence movement rather than and other alternatives to i think in the east

00:21:48.720 it's got more traction than it does in the west right now uh but even then it's pretty low and he's

00:21:55.120 not going to have any personal brand loyalty that he had in both his constituency and at the end of the

00:22:00.640 day even if conservatives are first of all most conservatives are probably just going to give

00:22:05.360 a little chance um but even if they're angry at him like andrew shearer was you know pretty piss poor

00:22:11.440 leader but people will still hold their nose and vote for the the blue sign uh on a post because

00:22:19.440 they're told to and the only times they'll not do that is something that would be you know extraordinary

00:22:25.120 kind of even beyond the left-right dichotomy of things so i i think he's going to get smoked he's

00:22:30.640 going to get a tiny bit of a platform for it but i think he would have been much better just putting

00:22:35.120 a candidate in going to campaign for them speaking at some events and waiting either for the general

00:22:40.800 election or for something more viable than this i i i can't see you doing anything but demoralize the

00:22:46.720 party well and i see eldon threw another question uh just on that one is an interesting one actually

00:22:52.160 if election was toros we're looking at alternatives that are kind of right center libertarian uh who would

00:22:57.120 give a greater likelihood of picking up some seats the ppc or wexit as they're currently named under j hill

00:23:03.200 personally i would think wexit because he oh they can target some strong you know southern alberta

00:23:08.880 southern saskatchewan type of seats or even interior bc i mean there's some great uh swing potential and

00:23:14.400 vote splits that can happen but ppc i mean he could pull some little chunks here and there but i can't

00:23:19.840 see him displacing uh an incumbent anywhere or winning a new seat i yeah i mean you know as i found out

00:23:26.240 with the freedom conservative party and max i i thought had maybe found out but i guess didn't

00:23:32.800 with the ppc is unless the tories are abysmal and in power at the time like you have with an

00:23:39.840 allison redford apprentice or a kim campbell people are not going to be willing to in significant enough

00:23:46.560 numbers break away from the big blue ship it's just that's the comfortable thing they know they're

00:23:53.360 worried about splitting the vote i think the only way that people are going to is if it's on a more

00:23:58.160 of a regional basis like the reform party it was the west it wasn't just that it was more conservative

00:24:03.360 than the federal pcs in 1993 is that that was the western voice and the pcs at that time were very

00:24:08.720 clearly in eastern establishment party still um and you know so you could see that with wexit because

00:24:17.280 it's got that it's not just left right i think the media really misinterpret things when they say

00:24:22.160 it's just a breakaway right party it's it's all yeah it's probably be on the right just the way the

00:24:26.000 bloc is on the left but the bloc is not primarily a party of the left it's a party of quebec and just

00:24:31.440 as i think wexit or federally or wild rose independence provincially they'll be right because

00:24:36.400 it's alberta but they're primarily a party of alberta and a left-wing leaning person can still

00:24:41.120 see the inequity of the system screwing where they're sitting there's a lot of prairie socialists

00:24:44.880 in saskatchewan and manitoba who still are very regionalist at the same time and that's areas

00:24:49.200 where there can be some pickup and i like like tim see what we're saying with jay hill he's questioning

00:24:53.440 on whether he's known well or qualified well i think jay's quite well qualified he was in the

00:24:58.880 parliament for a long time but how well known he is broadly well we'll see as time goes but again those are

00:25:04.160 both alternatives that we might see some interesting things it certainly seems to be a well max following

00:25:09.840 up with being max and being a uh uh quite crazy and then vancouver east paul holmes was asking about

00:25:18.000 uh i'm trying to think that is that one of those loony swing ridings that can pretty much go any

00:25:23.840 direction because vancouver's got some real hornet's nests going on there's a violation of vancouver east

00:25:28.480 no i'm thinking perhaps he's just talking about i'm just guessing on paul uh there's no violations

00:25:33.360 there i know but that's one of those seats that can kind of go in any direction uh well i don't know

00:25:38.800 about vancouver east particularly but there are a few vancouver seats that are funny uh particularly

00:25:44.880 on the outside uh remember you know the reform party in canadian alliance always won more seats

00:25:50.160 in vancouver and on vancouver island in the victoria area than the conservatives ever did because even

00:25:55.760 though it was way for the right it was populist anti-establishment it was a western voice yeah

00:26:00.640 the cadman was from down there and stinson was out that way or was he no he was interior yeah but

00:26:05.760 but yeah and then you could have a very true blue conservative and right next door a few blocks

00:26:10.400 away you'll have an ndp member sitting there it was vancouver's a special reform did better in vancouver

00:26:16.080 and in vancouver on vancouver island because it was anti like they destroyed the ndp out there for

00:26:20.960 many years the conservatives nationally did better as the conservative party of canada but

00:26:25.520 in some of these very anti-establishment populist pockets particularly in bc uh the reform party

00:26:33.200 did better than the conservatives ever did and yeah paul's saying something about safe seats he

00:26:37.280 says yeah i need the biblical reference he said uh oh you see he was putting out as well the reform

00:26:42.080 also got elected when the progressive conservatives were in power and uh yeah can't discount those up

00:26:46.960 and comers coming from the right yeah uh so and then and finally a wrap up i mean we've covered some

00:26:52.560 ground getting a little more locally in calgary if we remember with black lives matter uh city council

00:26:57.680 kind of snuck it through at the end of summer and decided to give a 120 000 tax dollars to uh

00:27:03.840 a group to put black lives matters murals in four locations in calgary uh there was an uproar when

00:27:10.080 people realized it particularly because they were going to paint over a beloved mural uh down on the old

00:27:15.040 cups building so they backed off and of course it was the usual thing then she used it for some virtue

00:27:18.960 signaling to claim all those nasty racists in calgary chased away the uh uh you're a racist if you

00:27:23.920 don't support the alum murals over our existing art that's right and they used it for their own

00:27:28.880 future virtue signaling say well we're deferring it now until 2021 say calgary's not ready for us yet

00:27:33.360 you know you know maybe we aren't so go away uh but either way they've popped up again and they now

00:27:39.600 apparently have secured a spot in chinatown with private funding and with a private location where

00:27:45.600 they're going to put a mural and as far as that goes sure if it's private money and a private

00:27:51.600 location i don't care it really is not like i might like it i might not i haven't seen it i don't know

00:27:57.920 what it's going to look like but if it's private i don't particularly care no i mean as long as it's

00:28:02.720 not something obscene or something i don't well i mean they're although i even if it was semi-obscene i

00:28:08.320 have a feeling the calgary city council wouldn't have the going as to do anything about it but

00:28:12.160 there are supposed to be bylaws around i mean like if you have a property across the street or next

00:28:16.160 door you know you you do have a right if it's damaging your property rights i mean someone's

00:28:21.440 not allowed to open a strip club or uh or a coal factory next door to you unless you've been

00:28:27.920 compensated a challenging area yeah where there's something yeah but but in general if it's just

00:28:32.960 you know some problem but from what we've seen from blm i'm not convinced you know i'll reserve

00:28:40.000 judgment until i see it from what we've seen from them they're pretty radical and they're not just

00:28:45.520 about racial equality they're about a whole lot of other things so let's see what they what they

00:28:50.720 come up with but the big question i'd say is the 120 000 they've gotten from calgary taxpayers are they

00:28:57.280 going to give that back now well that's a good question or have they gotten yet uh if they haven't

00:29:01.840 gotten are they going to say well we're we don't need it anymore because we got to put our our mural and

00:29:06.240 message out uh i mean that it's a a bunch of bs that the city gave that out anyways there's supposed

00:29:12.000 to be a freeze on spending on public art anyhow and they're supposed to be a whole public art

00:29:16.000 consultation process that they bypassed to do this uh so i think again well they already had good call

00:29:23.040 to say we're not spending the money on this and we're not handing it out but they've got even more

00:29:26.000 so there you got your spot put your message out uh whenever we get an arts program going in you can get

00:29:31.520 uh to try and get a piece like everybody else um so oh yes and so the full story as dame is reminding

00:29:40.320 us to go to the western standard website if you want to see that in detail along with much of

00:29:46.080 everything else we've been speaking on of course be sure to go to the the western standard uh online

00:29:51.920 yeah and we're going to check out uh what uh listener cw alexander said about uh the government

00:29:58.880 restricting the releases of foips we'll take a look at this we'll see if these were you know

00:30:03.840 people who have never fought before often don't know what is reasonably allowed to be redacted

00:30:08.000 but i can tell you my experience most of the redacting isn't reasonable no so we'll we'll take

00:30:13.280 a look uh and if if anything comes to that we're going to have a story for you soon but before we go uh

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00:31:25.360 less uh issues this time we're we're a different uh or completely different than our first time our

00:31:31.040 first time was rough yeah but it was eight hours wasn't supposed to be it was it was a marathon but

00:31:35.280 we learned a lot and paul holmes gave us a great base to build on we're going to be doing more of

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00:31:47.920 better and we'll keep hitting those issues one final comment to hit apparently uh from a conservator

00:31:52.880 is dr month conservative so i'm guessing that's the conservative uh the conservative constituency

00:32:00.000 association in outremont which is in downtown montreal if i'm not mistaken lewis had her share of caucus

00:32:05.760 endorsements uh i'm not aware of any but if uh sorry for neglecting him if they were though and i will

00:32:13.760 so uh conservatives the outremont conservatives i guess that's a bilingual name for it uh if you uh

00:32:20.960 we're we're watching you uh please uh respond on there or send us an email with the names of uh

00:32:27.920 members of the conservative caucus that endorse luslyn lewis uh we'd be interested to see but i i'm not

00:32:32.880 aware of any myself but if we're wrong i'm sorry to correct it and i mean we've been favorable unless

00:32:37.040 she did a fantastic job in the leadership i just can't say enough good things about how she shook

00:32:40.960 the establishment i'm looking forward if i could have been bothered to vote i would have voted for

00:32:46.240 her yeah yeah all right thanks well we'll see you guys on the next broadcast thank you very much guys

00:32:51.760 god bless

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