Western Standard - The Pipeline September 30, 2020

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00:01:00.000 Welcome to the Pipeline.

00:01:12.660 This is the Western Standard's weekly live show where we'll go over some of the top

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00:01:21.500 team.

00:01:22.480 I'm Corey Morgan, digital editor, columnist.

00:01:25.340 This is Derek Fildebrand, the Western Standard's publisher.

00:01:28.980 Dave Kneeler is usually with us, the news editor.

00:01:31.260 He couldn't make it today, but boy, he's been pumping out the content with a large number

00:01:35.060 of stories this week.

00:01:36.460 Great coverage of all sorts of things.

00:01:39.100 So this week we're going to be touching on the Saskatchewan election, the great debate

00:01:44.640 in the United States, and the developing Cheesy Gate, which is a distinctly Canadian scandal

00:01:51.180 if I've ever heard of one.

00:01:52.500 I think Cheesy's our Canadian product.

00:01:55.300 But we will start, I guess, on this Saskatchewan election that has just been called by Scott

00:02:00.560 Moe, and it's going to be held on October 26th.

00:02:03.960 So Derek, what are your thoughts?

00:02:06.200 Is this going to be a big game changer for Saskatchewan?

00:02:09.860 I'm doubtful much will change.

00:02:12.900 I think it'll be even more boring than the B.C. election, where at least you might have

00:02:18.000 a change from minority government to majority government.

00:02:21.680 In Saskatchewan, all indications are that Scott Moe is going to steamroll his way to a majority

00:02:28.700 government, another majority government.

00:02:31.360 This is his first election, though.

00:02:33.240 Well, he's been premier for, I think, since 2018, if I'm not mistaken.

00:02:38.040 He is, this is his first election as leader of the Saskatchewan party, and it looks like

00:02:46.400 they're going to retain a very comfortable majority in most polls.

00:02:51.900 I really don't see very much.

00:02:54.880 The new challengers to them, like the Buffalo party, are still so new, barely even registered

00:03:00.580 yet.

00:03:01.900 They're only expected to have a handful of candidates and a few constituencies. 0.93

00:03:05.920 So, I'm barring an absolute thunderclap.

00:03:11.340 I think Moe is on his way to a re-elected huge majority government.

00:03:16.040 Yeah, well, the independence movements have been on the rise, though, and they've been

00:03:19.420 organizing and they've been getting together on the ground.

00:03:21.520 So, there's this gentleman, Wade Syrah, is the leader of the Buffalo party in Saskatchewan.

00:03:25.480 This will be their first real test, though, and a formative thing.

00:03:28.560 It's difficult to go against a machine.

00:03:30.860 Something I see that might be an advantage for him, though, something that was difficult

00:03:33.700 for the Freedom Conservative Party, might be difficult for the Wildrose Independence

00:03:36.820 Party, is people fearful of the vote split.

00:03:39.680 You know, we might put in something worse than what we had to begin with.

00:03:42.280 But, I believe one of the things that Syrah could point out is, hey, you know, we're not

00:03:48.320 going to be knocking Moe off, but we really need to speak up for Saskatchewan.

00:03:51.240 We can come from an independence perspective.

00:03:52.860 Park your vote with us.

00:03:54.220 Make a statement.

00:03:54.980 If they can organize it in some strong ridings, perhaps they might be able to make an impact

00:04:00.000 that would be unexpected.

00:04:01.840 Well, the prospect of vote splitting is something they're going to talk about, but I don't think

00:04:05.320 it really applies in the case of parties that are Sovereignist.

00:04:10.040 Vote splitting only matters if you're two different parties on the right sharing most things in

00:04:15.360 common.

00:04:17.220 You know, if you're talking Wildrose or PC, I mean, there were pretty damn big differences

00:04:23.280 at certain points between them, but they were both essentially competing on for the center

00:04:27.760 right to right.

00:04:29.500 In the case, you know, of these independence parties, Wildrose Independence in Alberta,

00:04:35.380 Maverick, I'm still not used to that, Maverick federally, or the Buffalo Party in Saskatchewan.

00:04:42.560 I mean, the argument is going to be used of the boogeyman about vote splitting, but I don't

00:04:46.380 think it really applies if the party they're trying to dislodge is not a Sovereignist party.

00:04:51.000 No one would say in Quebec that if you voted for the party Capitano, you'll split the vote

00:04:57.800 with the CAQ or with the Liberals.

00:05:00.440 They're just completely different things, and left, right is kind of besides the point.

00:05:04.020 But it is something that will be used against them, but for the most part, I can tell you

00:05:08.000 starting a party from scratch with very little resources, next to no resources is extremely

00:05:12.600 difficult.

00:05:14.280 You know, when I did it with the Freedom Conservative Party, I was actually pretty happy with how far

00:05:18.380 we got in the short period of time we did, but we still needed a lot more time when you're

00:05:22.840 starting from scratch.

00:05:23.640 Buffalo Party's got even less time.

00:05:26.600 They haven't even had a leadership race, essentially.

00:05:28.940 It's an interim leader running.

00:05:30.340 I don't know what the technicalities are.

00:05:32.160 But I really don't think they are, I mean, that's the lot to them, but I don't think they're

00:05:38.860 going to be in a position yet to challenge for something.

00:05:41.240 They're going to need the better part of four years to organize themselves and do a formidable

00:05:45.900 force of any kind.

00:05:46.820 Yeah, so it could be developmentable.

00:05:48.240 I mean, there's a number of also-rans.

00:05:50.020 I mean, the PC Party still exists in Saskatchewan.

00:05:52.680 The Liberal Party leader, I forget his name, but he has a memorable facial hair construction

00:05:57.880 going on.

00:05:58.420 But otherwise, I mean, it does seem to be a Scott Moe race. 0.82

00:06:03.060 But, you know, it would be interesting to watch how it develops.

00:06:05.180 I see a commenter, Tarsi, I'm going to probably ruin your name, Shindelka, but he said Maverick

00:06:11.800 is the worst name for a party.

00:06:12.720 So, yeah, a lot of people are getting used to or just trying to figure out what to do

00:06:17.560 with that Maverick party name.

00:06:19.440 But that is a reminder, too, that we are live right now.

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00:06:27.140 But if you're on right now, put your questions out there or comments or, you know, if they

00:06:31.880 aren't too obscene.

00:06:32.640 Questions are better than comments.

00:06:33.880 Yes, we will.

00:06:34.740 If they're good comments or interesting comments, we can read them off.

00:06:36.960 We will happily address them.

00:06:38.880 So moving past the Saskatchewan election, which we'll certainly be keeping an eye on, though,

00:06:42.500 in the coming weeks, the bigger election down south, the American election, one of, at least

00:06:47.700 in our lifetimes, the ugliest, most divisive things we've ever seen.

00:06:51.600 And the debate, first debate was last night.

00:06:54.500 And if somebody was expecting ugliness and divisiveness, they got exactly what they anticipated.

00:06:59.560 Boy, that was a painful hour and a half for me to sit through last night.

00:07:04.740 I watched it.

00:07:06.440 What are your thoughts on how that all came about?

00:07:09.080 I mean, like almost any other debate, whoever your favorite candidate is won.

00:07:15.940 I mean, you know, they're speaking to their core audiences.

00:07:20.180 I'm not sure many minds were changed last night.

00:07:23.340 And, you know, I was cautiously optimistic for the first two minutes that Trump was actually

00:07:29.540 going to be a bit more presidential.

00:07:32.500 Not that he shouldn't be himself, but, you know, that he was going to be more calm and

00:07:38.060 less irascible than he normally is.

00:07:39.580 For the first two minutes, he was actually pretty calm.

00:07:41.660 And I thought, oh, okay, well, here's the, you know, here's a Trump who, for maybe a month

00:07:47.480 and a half, can kind of just not say something crazy, be a bit more presidential than his

00:07:52.720 demeanor.

00:07:54.100 But then that quickly went down.

00:07:55.860 That may have been his strategy because that's what he started off with.

00:07:59.040 But I was kind of thinking, it seemed to me like he was trying to get under Biden's skin.

00:08:03.160 I mean, what they maybe hoped for for a win was to make Biden lose his composure and start

00:08:09.360 swearing or do something really, you know, irreversible.

00:08:12.280 And it half succeeded.

00:08:13.520 I mean, like he didn't fall down kicking and screaming on the stage.

00:08:16.740 But Trump has got a particular ability to get under people's skin.

00:08:19.740 And, you know, what their nicknames, Pocahontas, my favorite was low energy Jeb.

00:08:24.320 I mean, there's pretty, you know, Sleepy Joe or Creepy Joe.

00:08:27.180 There's, I mean, you know, he said certain things to try and get under his skin.

00:08:31.020 He certainly dominated the debate in the sense that he had control over it.

00:08:36.380 And it was, it was very much Trump was not going to be, let the moderator or let alone Biden be the boss.

00:08:45.080 I was going to say, Wallace sure as hell didn't have control.

00:08:47.840 I am, I'm a bit sympathetic to Wallace.

00:08:50.420 I mean, even if you're a Trump fan, trying to moderate a debate with Trump is damn near impossible.

00:08:56.920 Yes, it's fine to cut in when you have an important point to make from time to time.

00:09:03.480 But, you know, Trump, even if you like him, he was not a respectful debater.

00:09:09.340 He was constantly cutting off, wouldn't let Biden finish his points.

00:09:13.060 Not that I liked any of Biden's points.

00:09:15.040 Biden was a wet noodle the whole time.

00:09:18.220 But, you know, Wallace, I think, had an impossible job trying to, trying to manage and moderate something like Trump.

00:09:26.900 There really was no win.

00:09:28.160 And people on both sides were pretty angry with him.

00:09:31.080 No, and that was the thing you kind of started with.

00:09:34.000 I mean, if there were any undecideds, I didn't see that changing at all.

00:09:36.640 If your goal was to try and bring a swing voter to you or to convert another one, nobody won any points on either side.

00:09:43.560 It's interesting to see some of the comments, though, from Lori saying, what a farce that was.

00:09:46.760 I couldn't even watch it.

00:09:48.220 And Marcus, who said, well, it was really fun to watch.

00:09:50.120 I was in stitches.

00:09:51.080 So, I mean, at best, though, it was an entertaining thing.

00:09:53.600 You know, there wasn't really any solid policy discussion.

00:09:56.400 It was more just getting shots at each other all the way through.

00:09:59.720 It was kind of, I guess, what the most negative person would expect, and it came out that way.

00:10:04.300 Well, and I agree.

00:10:05.540 But the thing is, Trump needs to change votes.

00:10:08.140 He's behind in the polls right now.

00:10:09.480 And I know what everyone's going to say.

00:10:10.580 Trump was behind in the polls last time, and everyone said he didn't have a chance.

00:10:14.300 Sure.

00:10:15.260 But while we like to ignore polls we don't like, we do look at polls we do like.

00:10:21.160 Fact is, Trump is losing in a lot of key battleground states right now.

00:10:25.020 He's going to have to win some people over.

00:10:27.140 He's going to have to, yes, juice his base up.

00:10:29.660 We know that, you know, the shy conservative voter is a real thing in many cases, particularly with Trump.

00:10:34.920 If you're in polite, fancy society, you know, saying I'm voting for Trump at a cocktail party is like farting in the middle of the room and not even saying excuse me.

00:10:43.740 So, yeah, there's a lot of, he's probably better than some of the polls are saying, but he's going to have to make up some ground.

00:10:49.700 And a draw is just not good enough for Trump.

00:10:54.960 He's got two more debates.

00:10:56.240 He's going to have to make up some real ground in those debates if he wants to get reelected.

00:10:59.580 Yeah, well, you know, I'll be hard-pressed to make time myself again to sit through another one of those debates.

00:11:04.380 You're more favorable of Wallace's moderation than I was.

00:11:07.940 I mean, I just feel, for one, we can turn off his mic.

00:11:11.540 Okay, fine.

00:11:11.980 You've got to do something, though, to get it under control if it gets into a shouting match.

00:11:15.480 And a moderator has to intervene at times and interject.

00:11:18.820 But he just, it got to a point where he was directly debating candidates, and I just don't want to see that.

00:11:24.420 I didn't think he was.

00:11:25.660 And he also did the same with Biden, let's remember.

00:11:28.340 I think, for me, as someone who likes a bit more policy, the most important part of the evening was concerning the Supreme Court and, what is that, the moderator's name again?

00:11:43.600 Wallace.

00:11:43.920 Wallace.

00:11:44.300 Wallace asked Biden if he was going to, you know, would he categorically say he would not do what some people in his own, in the Democratic Party have said, which is appoint seemingly unconstitutionally more Supreme Court justices on top.

00:11:58.340 of the nine, essentially making the Supreme Court useless.

00:12:00.360 He may as well appoint a thousand people then, stack it for all time.

00:12:03.320 And Biden, you normally want a politician who doesn't want to answer a question, they answer the question they wish they were asked, not the one they were.

00:12:10.660 So you give a bullshit answer, answering something different.

00:12:13.620 So at least you're saying something.

00:12:15.020 Biden, though, I mean, he's barely holding things together inside his head.

00:12:20.740 He said, I'm not going to answer your question because I don't think it's a good question.

00:12:24.760 And to his credit, Wallace challenged Biden on that, too.

00:12:28.800 Wallace had people on both sides angry.

00:12:32.340 He challenged.

00:12:33.280 I don't think he was debating, though.

00:12:34.360 I think when candidates were not answering the questions, which both of them did at times, you know, Trump was asked, you know, will you condemn white supremacists?

00:12:44.580 His answer was a little.

00:12:45.580 He did end up condemning him, but it was a bit loopy at first.

00:12:47.900 He pressed him on that, but then he did the same thing with Biden on the Supreme, adding bizarre 10th, 11th, 12th Supreme Court justices.

00:12:57.020 So I really don't think there was any way a moderator was going to come out of that debate with both sides happy.

00:13:04.200 And I don't think, I do think if you're going to have a debate with a guy like Trump there, even if you like him, there needs to be a kill switch on the mics so that they, you know, if it's getting excessive as it did routinely, that they can kill it.

00:13:19.460 And there's just two of them.

00:13:20.520 It's not like a Canadian debate where you've got four, five, six leaders on a stage where they're all fighting for time.

00:13:25.900 This is two of them.

00:13:27.180 There's lots of time for both of them.

00:13:28.940 I think they need a kill switch on the mic.

00:13:30.360 Well, I hope they improve it next time around.

00:13:32.220 And Tarsi is coming, you know, why are we paying so much attention to American elections?

00:13:35.320 Well, there's a number of things.

00:13:36.660 I mean, it is our big main trading partner.

00:13:39.500 This will impact us.

00:13:40.780 I mean, if the keystone gets shut down with Biden getting in, it's really going to impact the West in a bad way.

00:13:45.960 Trump, at least supportive of things like a rail line to Alaska.

00:13:48.940 These are things, if we want to look on a pure economic sense, whoever wins this is going to impact Alberta.

00:13:55.000 And it would probably be better for Alberta if Trump wins than not.

00:13:57.480 Well, undoubtedly, even though, you know, polls are showing most Albertans would prefer Biden, well, that's always the case.

00:14:04.620 Canadians always prefer the Democrat because the Republicans are the more traditionally nationalist party.

00:14:08.620 And why would someone not in that nation support the nationalist party?

00:14:11.780 But, you know, for our economic interest, of course, having someone who hasn't pledged to kill the Keystone XL pipeline is good for us.

00:14:20.140 Well, and as frustrating as it is, Darcy, you see, we endured, we're sitting through an hour and a half of that last night, so we could encapsulate it for you today.

00:14:27.040 We watch so, you don't have to.

00:14:28.680 That's right.

00:14:29.600 Just as Justin's taken on debt, so we don't have to.

00:14:32.280 So, we will get on to something more domestic, though, and that is Cheesygate.

00:14:38.360 So, okay, I guess it came from a town hall meeting, MLA for, like St. Anne, I believe it is, Shane Getson had spoken on a town hall meeting and he referred to some people on CERN potentially eating cheesies and watching cartoons with that money.

00:14:56.540 And, of course, it's really stirred up a great deal of people.

00:15:01.720 Well, it seems to be dominating provincial news today.

00:15:03.780 Of course, the usual demands for apologies, shame, shame, shame, finger-wagging, pearl-clutching, and all the good stuff that comes when somebody dares to speak outside of a dull monologue.

00:15:15.920 What are your thoughts on an MLA getting in trouble?

00:15:18.140 You're familiar with that.

00:15:18.820 Well, I mean, the short clip that's been shared by their, you know, UCP opponents, at least on the left, their opponents, and the NDP, it's a very short clip.

00:15:35.040 And you can take away from it that he's saying that everybody on CERN is lazy, sitting at home eating cheesies and doing drugs.

00:15:42.620 It's not the way I took it.

00:15:44.040 I took it as, if you look at the longer clip and have some context, he's saying that people who already are, who were already unemployed or have substance abuse problems, providing, you know, when they may have been $700 a month before, now they've got $2,000 or more than $2,000 stacked on what they already had before.

00:16:05.480 It's fueling drug habits.

00:16:07.060 Now, this is something you've written about before.

00:16:08.640 I think he actually made a very reasonable point.

00:16:12.960 But, you know, one thing you learn in politics is that the tiny little clip, I mean, no one cares about the context, or at least your opponents never care about the context.

00:16:24.800 They care about the little clip.

00:16:26.280 And if you can just take that, they're going to run with it.

00:16:28.780 And he allowed that to happen.

00:16:31.060 And so now the NDP are demanding blood sacrifices and that we sit around in sackcloth and ashes.

00:16:38.380 But I'll tell, what's the guy's name again?

00:16:41.260 That was Shane Getson.

00:16:42.460 Shane Getson.

00:16:43.080 Shane, if you're watching, let me give you some advice as someone who's been a controversial figure before.

00:16:49.080 Don't apologize to the bastards.

00:16:51.120 It'll just feed them. 0.74

00:16:52.960 They'll just want more.

00:16:54.360 It will never be good enough.

00:16:56.260 Only apologize if you've genuinely screwed up.

00:16:58.640 If it's just some media controversy because they want to run with it, they don't care about you.

00:17:07.800 They just want to make you a sacrificial lamb to make your party look bad. 0.99

00:17:11.260 So I would not apologize.

00:17:13.120 I would double down.

00:17:14.620 That being said, that would be unpopular with your leader and whatnot because they want you to shut up.

00:17:18.440 They want MLAs in the backbench to shut up and just read the talking points.

00:17:21.440 That's why they're not allowed to see anything original in the House.

00:17:23.720 No.

00:17:23.880 And that's something unfortunate is we'll see more throttling, unfortunately, of our elected members.

00:17:29.100 We need a number of them so they can see all those different points of views.

00:17:31.520 And getting on to CERB, yeah.

00:17:33.180 Nobody said that everybody on there is doing that or abusing it.

00:17:37.260 And I am supportive of CERB in the sense that it came in with no questions asked.

00:17:41.720 Unfortunately, because if the government is going to step in and shut everybody out of work, which is what they did, you've got to do something.

00:17:47.720 They've got to pay their bills.

00:17:48.600 They've got to get their food on the table.

00:17:50.000 They've got to get their vehicle payments, everything.

00:17:52.940 So you don't have time to build some program and have people apply and go through screening and do that.

00:17:57.920 You had to just get it out there fast and get it to them.

00:18:00.120 And most people did it out of necessity and when they could go back to work, they did.

00:18:04.720 But let's not deceive ourselves.

00:18:06.520 There's a lot of lazy people out there.

00:18:08.500 There are people who will sit on their ass and take it.

00:18:10.640 There are people for whom that was a raise or even just at least a small cut.

00:18:13.820 A small cut, if you're sitting around and doing whatever you want, you know, with 40 hours extra free a week, is a nice thing for some people, people who lack ambition, to have.

00:18:24.320 And to call it out is being realistic and reasonable.

00:18:28.400 I mean, it's not insulting everybody, but it's pointing out a real flaw with this program when you're running it in a long run like this.

00:18:34.760 So I sold the restaurant I owned about five months ago just in time, but I'm still in touch with other restaurant owners.

00:18:42.100 And they're having a real hard time getting staff to come back.

00:18:45.740 And one, she's juggling cooks because she can't get them, period. 1.00

00:18:49.300 But what she could get them to agree to is as long as they make less than $1,000, I'll come in.

00:18:54.080 So you've got like 15 people scheduled all with these part-time hours because they just want to make just enough that they don't get their CERB clawed back, but not enough that they lose.

00:19:03.000 Well, we wonder why EI is a big problem in the Maritimes where there's different rules for qualifying for EI than there is in the West here.

00:19:09.600 And people intentionally want to get laid off at some point.

00:19:11.940 At some point, why would you work for less money than you're going to get from the government?

00:19:16.840 So we've had the same problem here.

00:19:18.960 We're trying to hire salespeople for selling advertising of the Western Standard.

00:19:24.080 And it's all commission.

00:19:25.580 Well, I mean, commission for the first little bit might be just a little bit over $1,000 until you get rolling.

00:19:32.000 Well, you're going to make more on CERB.

00:19:33.580 So it's making it very difficult for employers.

00:19:35.880 And that's been for a long time.

00:19:37.040 I mean, that's been a fundamental problem in Canada was moving money to the people rather than people to the money.

00:19:41.720 I was in the oil field for 20 years.

00:19:44.200 I'm a surveyor by trade.

00:19:45.280 It was predominantly seismic I worked in, which is very seasonal.

00:19:48.480 Spring comes along.

00:19:49.460 We're all shut down for a while.

00:19:50.340 But you've got to get through the winter, you know, until that thaw ends up.

00:19:53.160 So breakup hits.

00:19:54.360 And a great deal of our workers were Maritimers. 1.00

00:19:57.540 Fantastic people.

00:19:58.380 Fantastic workers.

00:19:59.200 But they were two different types.

00:20:00.380 They were the ones who moved out to Alberta to make a career and a life.

00:20:03.420 And they did great.

00:20:05.480 And there were the seasonal ones.

00:20:07.100 And not all of them were necessarily that bad either.

00:20:08.460 But what would happen is before breakup, a large number of them will have made enough days that they qualified for EI and they would vanish en masse.

00:20:16.000 Not all of them, but I would bet at least a half.

00:20:18.200 Oh, sorry, bye.

00:20:18.980 Got to be stabbed.

00:20:19.640 I'm heading home.

00:20:20.500 And that would happen.

00:20:21.220 And we'd suddenly short-staffed when we're at our end of the season push.

00:20:24.440 I don't want to smear all Maritimers. 1.00

00:20:26.060 They're fantastic people.

00:20:27.280 Great to party with.

00:20:28.320 Hard, hard workers when they were out here.

00:20:30.440 The ones who moved here.

00:20:31.100 And the seasonal ones who would stick it out to the end of the season.

00:20:33.480 But let's not blow sunshine up people's asses and pretend that every one of them had a good work ethic.

00:20:38.220 Some of them took full advantage of that.

00:20:39.980 The absolute minimum they had to pull in so that they could take out the maximum when they went home.

00:20:43.800 But then you add in substance abuse issues.

00:20:45.520 If someone's already staying at home with substance abuse issues and you hand more money, it's actually going to make the problem worse.

00:20:53.440 At the same time, if the government shuts down the economy, they've got to do something about it.

00:20:57.420 So we're between a bit of a rock and a hard place here.

00:21:00.180 But I think this is actually, I don't think, a very controversial opinion.

00:21:04.840 It's just that an elected person said it.

00:21:07.200 He said it in a way that made a short, clipped soundbite that you can take it out.

00:21:11.560 And you know what?

00:21:12.800 Your opponents will always take you out of context.

00:21:16.340 Sometimes it might be fair.

00:21:17.940 Sometimes it might not be.

00:21:19.120 But this is just going to happen.

00:21:20.800 As you get a bit more experience in it, you become more adept at saying things in a crappy politician-y kind of way

00:21:27.700 that draws things out but can't be clipped into a soundbite that gets you into trouble.

00:21:33.300 That's one reason politicians always sound like a bunch of sock puppets because you get trained to not actually say anything definitive.

00:21:43.340 You get trained to draw out what you're trying to say over an entire paragraph, like what I'm doing right now.

00:21:48.300 Yeah.

00:21:49.540 Start to string out.

00:21:51.080 And it's unfortunate.

00:21:51.820 I mean, I don't like seeing politicians so unrestrained like Trump to the point where it's just outright destructive and chaotic,

00:21:56.960 but it can be a little entertaining.

00:21:58.620 But it has to, you know, let them be unrestrained a bit.

00:22:04.620 Speak their minds.

00:22:05.200 Speak other people's minds.

00:22:06.420 They're supposed to represent us.

00:22:07.600 Maybe a final comment here.

00:22:09.560 Craig Chandler saying,

00:22:11.120 The fact that my business members are having issues with rehiring people on CERB, just the facts.

00:22:15.080 And the Canadian Federation of Independent Businesses said the same thing.

00:22:17.780 Businesses are having difficulty getting people back.

00:22:21.140 They don't want to come home.

00:22:22.580 Look, I was just chatting with someone before our broadcast in the office today.

00:22:28.180 And, you know, he's in a commission-based business.

00:22:32.760 He's got about 10 people that report to him.

00:22:36.000 Half of them have quit because they make, when sales are slow, they make more money on CERB.

00:22:42.060 And why would you go to work and bust your ass all week, make essentially maybe just a little bit more than CERB.

00:22:48.440 But then you're adding in your driving costs and, you know, eating when you're out and all that stuff.

00:22:52.300 Or you can stay home and get it.

00:22:54.040 You know, CERB is necessary.

00:22:55.340 If the government shuts down the economy, CERB is necessary.

00:22:57.820 I don't think the shutdown is necessary, but this is what it is.

00:23:01.360 So if you're going to have it, you're going to have to have something.

00:23:03.560 But let's not pretend that it doesn't have perverse impacts on the labor market.

00:23:10.340 And it doesn't have perverse impacts on people who already have substance abuse issues.

00:23:14.380 Well, Sid, I don't think anybody wants to shame the people who are stuck on CERB with no choice.

00:23:18.460 It's the people who have a choice who are still drawing it that they're ones that, yes, you know what, I do want to rub your noses in a little bit.

00:23:23.400 It's hard to distinguish between those sometimes.

00:23:25.400 But a lot of people are just screwed and stuck right now.

00:23:27.560 It's like the old cliche, the best social program is a job, and we need a strong economy in order to do that.

00:23:33.260 So let's find the means to get the people who want to work back to work.

00:23:36.960 But let's not be afraid to point out that some are taking advantage of the bloody system.

00:23:40.400 Amen.

00:23:41.060 So that's what we've got for the pipeline this week.

00:23:44.000 I'm sure there'll be a great number of good stories to cover next week.

00:23:47.240 Hopefully we'll get Dave back.

00:23:48.280 He fills them out so fantastic.

00:23:49.380 Dave has been absconded in Abbotsford, B.C. for the last little bit, but he'll be back.

00:23:54.440 So we'll have all three of us in a live studio next week.

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00:25:00.040 But yeah, thanks, Corey, for closing the show today.

00:25:03.980 And we'll be back next week.

00:25:06.740 We hope to actually make this a bit more regular.

00:25:08.920 A little more.

00:25:09.500 And something else, actually, on every Monday night I'll be doing the rant.

00:25:12.120 So if you want to hear somebody talking unrestrained, that'll be your opportunity for that.

00:25:16.700 You don't want to miss that.

00:25:18.780 Ranting and raving with Corey Morgan.

00:25:20.260 Monday nights around 730.

00:25:21.800 And yeah, every Wednesday we should be coming on here and summarizing the news for you.

00:25:26.020 Amen.

00:25:26.660 Thanks.

00:25:27.240 Thank you very much.

00:25:28.440 God bless the West.

00:25:29.260 Thank you.

00:25:59.260 Okay. It has formally ended. I would still just hold my breath just in case. Okay. Yeah. And...

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