Western Standard - THE PIPELINE： Smith’s leadership gets wobbly

00:00:00.000 good day and welcome to the pipeline i'm derek phil de brant publisher of the western standard

00:00:29.500 Today is June 3rd, 2026.

00:00:32.780 I've got the usual crew plus one today, but we're also in our new digs in our very romantically lit studio.

00:00:40.780 I think we've, uh, John in production here has done some great work upping our, uh, I think our, I think the sound sounds better.

00:00:47.440 And I like, uh, look, oh, look how, look at this good group of, uh, of lads, eh?

00:00:52.880 Tight quarters just in the right month.

00:00:54.900 It is a bit tight.

00:00:56.120 Uh, I want a table, but at least I got to sit beside Nigel.

00:00:59.500 And I get to still rub the knees with you.

00:01:03.140 Yeah, we get a prescription for that.

00:01:04.600 All right.

00:01:05.040 All right.

00:01:05.500 Are you holding hands in the shower in no time?

00:01:07.960 All right.

00:01:09.220 Former opinion editor, Nigel Hannaford.

00:01:12.120 Senior Alberta columnist, Corey Morgan.

00:01:14.180 News editor, senior news editor, Dave Naylor.

00:01:16.880 Hello.

00:01:17.420 Also coming to us from beautiful British Columbia in Vancouver.

00:01:21.200 We got Alex Zoltan, our BC reporter.

00:01:24.800 All right.

00:01:25.420 we're going to talk

00:01:27.280 about occupied Europe

00:01:29.480 on the brink

00:01:30.460 the murder of a young man

00:01:33.560 in England

00:01:34.180 by a migrant under

00:01:37.040 wild circumstances

00:01:39.180 and the complacency of

00:01:41.080 the British police, the British

00:01:43.320 political establishment, the British

00:01:44.980 media establishment

00:01:46.220 is

00:01:48.740 well there's rioting taking place right now

00:01:51.140 and it really

00:01:53.340 is emblematic of what is

00:01:55.420 what is afflicting Western civilization right now?

00:01:58.280 Not just London, not just England, not just Europe,

00:02:01.520 but really all Western civilization.

00:02:03.960 This is, I know we try to keep it fairly close to home,

00:02:07.560 but this one, even though it's in England,

00:02:10.660 I find it's really touching me here.

00:02:13.900 I think it's touching a lot of people.

00:02:15.740 You're not going to hear about it in most of the mainstream media.

00:02:18.520 It's got between zero to next to zero coverage here,

00:02:24.000 despite its,

00:02:25.420 parallels with the George Floyd case, where a criminal drug addict on drugs was was killed in,

00:02:35.980 you know, it's not great a guy was killed period, but a guy was killed being lawfully arrested

00:02:40.940 while he was on fentanyl, and he couldn't breathe. And then a non intoxicated law abiding man who was

00:02:50.220 brutally murdered with a ceremonial knife by a migrant, was arrested himself while the murderer

00:02:59.320 was let go. And, you know, so there's parallels, but they obviously diverge in some pretty

00:03:05.120 important ways. George Floyd was no hero. He didn't necessarily deserve what he got,

00:03:11.760 but he didn't deserve to be lionized as a hero either. But Nowak, as a young man in England,

00:03:17.380 very much is a different case.

00:03:21.800 Anyway, we're going to get to it. I'm getting ahead of myself. I'm supposed to be just queuing up the topics.

00:03:27.360 Alberta Premier Danielle Smith,

00:03:29.480 the very careful tightrope walk that she has done to date

00:03:33.180 between the minority federalists in the party and the majority

00:03:37.100 nationalists in the party, I think there's increasing evidence

00:03:41.100 that the tightrope walk that she has been doing is becoming increasingly

00:03:45.220 wobbly that she has lost that balance, and that's her prerogative, but there could be significant

00:03:50.600 ramifications to her leadership if she continues to skew much harder in the direction of the

00:03:56.500 Federalists within the party than the Nationalists. So we'll talk about what this means for her

00:04:00.960 leadership, but speaking of Conservative leaders, we want to start in British Columbia, where the

00:04:06.300 British Columbia Conservative Party has elected a new leader. We had our BC reporter Alex Zoltan

00:04:14.840 on the floor of the BC Leadership Convention.

00:04:18.040 I believe it was in Vancouver.

00:04:19.800 Why don't you just kind of tee it up for us?

00:04:21.420 Give us a real super high-level brief summary of the race,

00:04:24.860 the main candidates, and what happened over the weekend with the vote.

00:04:31.520 Sure, I'd be happy to.

00:04:33.000 So I must confess that when I was first assigned this story,

00:04:37.080 and I don't want to sound ungrateful by any means because I love politics

00:04:39.700 and there's never a dull moment in BC politics,

00:04:41.700 but looking at it from a high level at the very beginning,

00:04:44.840 my concern was that this was going to be a hard story to make interesting if you just looked at

00:04:49.960 the initial cast of characters i mean you had ian black he was a former bcm la liberal when i was

00:04:55.120 i think in high school or my first years of university peter millibar he's the finance

00:04:59.640 critic yuri former he was an entrepreneur i really didn't know that much about and caroline

00:05:05.000 elliott who is a phd and a bit of a politico talking head so to speak and then carrie lynn

00:05:09.860 finley who is a well-seasoned member of parliament it seemed very boring on its surface but it ended

00:05:16.180 up turning into absolute cinema it was just the most amazing race especially for those of us that

00:05:21.960 feel maybe a bit disenchanted after the canadian federal election it's been a long time i think

00:05:27.880 since true blue conservatives have felt like they elected their chosen candidate and that they won

00:05:33.980 something. So it was, uh, it ended up turning into a great race. So it was, uh, it was a nail

00:05:40.040 biter 51 49. Um, uh, Carolyn Finley, the, uh, the eventual winner, uh, it's, there was a very

00:05:49.520 serious effort to disqualify her in the final hours. I, they ultimately didn't, I think it

00:05:55.700 probably would have blown up the party to disqualify someone who, as it turns out would

00:05:59.780 have one. I don't political parties tend not to recover from that. But if I could interrupt you

00:06:07.140 for just one second, that actually was just one of many setbacks. Prior to jumping onto the pipeline,

00:06:12.340 I actually wrote down a list. There was many, many setbacks for her campaign. And for folks

00:06:17.540 who don't know much about her personal biography, she was a widow, very, very young with two young

00:06:21.820 children. Her son or her, sorry, her husband died very, very quickly and suddenly of a heart attack.

00:06:28.580 She was then involved in a long legal dispute with the Musqueam Band.

00:06:32.680 This is back in the late 90s, in the early 2000s.

00:06:35.300 She ended up declaring bankruptcy.

00:06:37.200 And what we saw through the race was that this woman was just incredibly unflappable.

00:06:41.360 So at the very beginning of the race, David Denhoff, who leads a municipal organization

00:06:46.800 of like-minded conservatives, he was her campaign manager.

00:06:50.260 He defected from her campaign to the Elliott campaign.

00:06:54.000 She responded by saying, well, you weren't my official campaign manager anyway.

00:06:57.260 Good riddance.

00:06:58.020 So that was just a sign of things to come. Next, the poly market manipulation showed that she was ranking it sometimes in dead last. So that seemed like there was no chance. Then she had the Canada Strong and Free debate where she accused Peter Milibar of being in a, actually, sorry, that was the global news debate, where she accused Peter Milibar of being in a conflict of interest because his wife was Indigenous. She was widely derided as a racist. We thought she was dead in the water there.

00:07:22.800 Then the Rob Shaw story came out that said that she was under active investigation from

00:07:27.540 Elections Canada.

00:07:28.520 It turned out to be a bit of a nothing burger.

00:07:30.820 But Leoc wanted to disqualify her at the last minute, which is what you were just talking

00:07:34.220 about.

00:07:34.580 But I just wanted to highlight that that was just the last of a string of setbacks for

00:07:38.320 her in which she appeared completely unflappable.

00:07:41.020 It was a really bumpy road.

00:07:43.220 But I think that last one where they seemingly came at least close to disqualifying her,

00:07:48.120 even though they didn't, the clouds surrounding that probably suppressed her vote. So I buy how

00:07:54.240 much I cannot say with any credibility, but I think it's fair to say that it probably suppressed

00:08:00.980 her vote. She probably would have won by a bigger margin than a bare 51% if she had not come within

00:08:07.680 a hair of being disqualified in a very public fashion and the kind of scandalettes surrounding

00:08:12.680 that scenario um tell us about uh elliot uh the very close runner up um there i want your opinion

00:08:23.960 on how fair or not it was but a lot of people derided her campaign as team ontario that was

00:08:28.460 all these ontario consultants um it was a very it was you know seen by some of the more establishment

00:08:34.660 campaign had been endorsed by former alberta premier jason kenney i don't know if that helped

00:08:41.280 or not but um you know uh but it had a bunch of people who were kind of surrounding doug ford and

00:08:47.080 whatnot kind of establishment uh conservative consultant figures and these people do appear

00:08:52.480 in all major races and all provinces anyway people do cross uh provincial boundaries for

00:08:57.840 these races that's not unusual the number of the senior officials being from ontario like

00:09:05.120 actual ontario residents not just from there originally but actually you know active ontarians

00:09:11.240 perhaps that was a bit high how fair or not do you think those accusations against Elliot were

00:09:17.920 that it was team Ontario team consultant team Doug Ford even which pretty damning to you know

00:09:23.580 to some of us and how how how much of an effect do you think that had on the race

00:09:27.760 it would be hard for me to say how team Ontario she was because I didn't work directly in her

00:09:34.040 campaign we can make certain assumptions off of the fact that she chose Corey tonight as her

00:09:39.200 campaign manager, but how much of an influence he had versus her many volunteers who were

00:09:44.740 BC-based is unfortunately sort of unfalsifiable for me. The allegations that she is a liberal

00:09:51.360 are completely valid. She was vice president of the BC Liberal Party, now virtually defunct.

00:09:57.720 And so I think that there was a combination of, I think what it was, it was perception is reality.

00:10:04.120 And a lot of people in B.C. regarded her as the establishment and insider candidate, which was really perplexing and sort of contradictory because Carrie Lynn Finley had the most political experience and Elliott had the least, maybe Uri Fulmer, actually Uri Fulmer for sure.

00:10:21.420 And so that was very interesting. And also that she was considered the establishment candidate, even though she was the youngest. And Carrie Lynn Finley was considered the underdog and the anti-establishment candidate, even though, again, she was the most experienced and the oldest.

00:10:34.120 um i know the ndp are trying to brand her as they do every conservative leader no matter what as

00:10:43.680 you know maple mega north i mean the left did the same thing to erin o'toole who was a full-out

00:10:51.200 liberal who ran on an even worse carbon tax than judy trudeau and they tried to paint him as

00:10:56.260 maple mega you know like so like stephen harper they try to say he's george bush i mean it's the

00:11:02.220 same thing every time. The question is about how, how effective is that allegation that they make

00:11:08.800 against everyone? Um, the NDP have come out, you know, with that against, um, uh, against Finley,

00:11:16.420 but, um, uh, how do you think the BC conservatives are going to change going forward now that we're

00:11:22.600 in the post, um, uh, rust that era formerly with the new leader? Well, Carrie Lynn Finley was kind

00:11:30.300 enough to give us an interview very early on in the campaign i believe she was the first candidate

00:11:34.700 to give western standard an interview and i have a central question for all of the candidates

00:11:38.880 who would speak to us that was all of them with the exception of caroline elliott

00:11:42.380 but so caroline elliott refused to interview with you yes correct she actually refused to

00:11:47.980 interview with almost all of the independent or non-legacy media journalists in bc that was a

00:11:53.140 huge sticking point as well yeah well yeah i guess if you're trying to win the votes of

00:11:58.360 conservatives in the west you should probably talk to the western standard and the other independent

00:12:03.880 kind of right-leaning media as well uh well that's it i i had known that you should have told us i

00:12:08.760 think that would have been uh newsworthy at that time well i heard that this was actually standing

00:12:14.040 standard operating procedure for cory tonight i heard that he did the same thing in ontario that

00:12:18.680 he would only speak to legacy media journalists so i didn't take it personally by any stretch of

00:12:22.280 the imagination no no but it but it's it's newsworthy if a candidate running an internal

00:12:27.640 conservative uh race uh refuses to talk to the non-left-wing establishment media i mean that's

00:12:36.520 i believe she did end up doing an interview with harrison faulkner but that's the only one that you

00:12:41.960 know comes to mind but back to the carrie lynn finley interview she was very very generous with

00:12:45.880 her time and there was a central interview question that i asked all the candidates who

00:12:49.240 would speak with me and that was how do you intend to unite the caucus i thought it was

00:12:53.320 an interesting question especially given the sort of division that we see in the bc conservative

00:12:57.480 Party. And her question was one of competence and experience. She was a former party whip with the

00:13:05.720 Polyev government. She was also a national revenue minister with Stephen Harper. And she provided

00:13:12.020 many, many anecdotal examples of times when she was able to unite the Federal Conservative Caucus.

00:13:17.500 And so I think that she will be able to do the same thing with the BC Conservatives.

00:13:21.180 as for the aspersions being put forth by the bc ndp that she is maple mega or a mega regional

00:13:28.740 manager i don't really know what that means i would uh i would argue that that may actually

00:13:34.780 be true there are certain elements of her political leanings and her style that are

00:13:39.820 actually for lack of a better phrase trumpian for instance her husband has gotten into some

00:13:45.000 hot water with being very very pro-israel um she has taken some very outspoken stances on child

00:13:52.760 sex affirming surgery if you even want to call it that and those are child sex changes yeah i mean

00:13:59.700 i call it child genital mutilation i don't really care you can call whatever you want

00:14:03.280 yeah i i try to be uh i think your terminology was a little over cautious i'm in vancouver i

00:14:10.280 have to try to be as tactful as evenly possible we'll we'll get you a gun oh yeah no no you guys

00:14:15.740 will eventually get me on the right track there but these are somewhat trumpian or republican

00:14:20.780 adjacent policies but what's strange about the bc ndp is is that they're not even fetching for

00:14:25.720 these examples instead they're just calling her a maple regional manager and the whole thing feels

00:14:30.940 very low effort and hackneyed and it gives me the impression this is purely my theory i don't know

00:14:36.220 this for sure that they've kind of given up it doesn't even seem like they're trying anymore

00:14:41.100 and i also get the impression that these sort of attacks were pre-formulated prior to them knowing

00:14:45.980 who actually won the race i think they would have been saying the exact same thing if caroline

00:14:50.180 elliott or any of the other candidates had won frankly well i it uh in indeed i think uh i mean

00:14:57.480 conservatives will do it to ndp or to liberals liberals will do it to conservatives ndp will do

00:15:01.700 the conservatives uh the talking points for these things are always written in advance uh famously

00:15:06.740 i think the conservatives even had attack ads ready for stefan dion even before stefan dion

00:15:12.500 became the conservative leader they had ads produced and stefan dion was not actually favored

00:15:16.660 to win i guess they just took the who were everyone who could possibly win and they released it

00:15:21.060 um but yeah i guess it's uh it but it does seem like not just low effort but low iq

00:15:26.340 talking points oh she's the regional manager of omega like have you seen david ab lately i mean

00:15:33.460 he's the glummest guy on earth or eeyore of politics i mean he's premier eeyore he knows

00:15:38.900 he's dead man walking yeah okay alex uh thank you very much we'll let you get back to work here uh

00:15:44.740 while we go talk about the fall of europe thank you very much thank you for having me

00:15:49.460 okay uh that was uh alex zoltan uh westward standard uh reporter uh based in vancouver

00:15:58.480 uh okay so i've already kind of got ahead of myself in the uh introduction of the show

00:16:04.140 about the murder of uh nowak i'm saying that right yep yeah nowak uh in england um

00:16:12.220 And it's not just that a Sikh migrant murdered a promising young man in cold blood.

00:16:24.260 it's for me it's the the enabling of it by the british establishment that this migrant who

00:16:35.760 murdered him was allowed to carry a ceremonial knife a kerpen when a indigenous britain is

00:16:42.780 not allowed to one person is legally allowed to carry a weapon the other person is not and

00:16:49.760 why are they not allowed to carry uh knives in britain because they're all stabby now because

00:16:55.000 they don't have guns and people will find a way to kill each other they got a stabbing problem

00:16:59.320 and i guess their solution was to ban knives and except for this group and so this group has more

00:17:06.320 leave is the same here pardon i believe that is the same here uh i i think we're allowed to walk

00:17:13.880 down the street with a knife here i think we're small jackknife type stuff yeah i mean if i carry

00:17:19.740 a a long sword on my back i i might i'm probably gonna get questioned by the police i'm not sure

00:17:24.700 i don't know what this murder was done with a long sword it was no you know no one that's supposed

00:17:30.060 to be safe but in britain symbolic indigenous britons are not allowed to carry these uh

00:17:36.700 seeks are um and actually even other minority groups are not allowed to carry them only one

00:17:41.100 specific group is um but where it went really sideways was uh this guy uh murders him or stabs

00:17:51.420 him um which will eventually lead to his death uh multiple times uh nowak calls the police on

00:18:01.420 uh the criminal who stabbed him multiple times the police show up and the and the murderer says

00:18:08.140 He says, I didn't stab him, but he made racist remarks to me.

00:18:12.360 He's a racist.

00:18:13.040 He knocked my turban off and said racist things about me and my religion, etc.

00:18:18.000 And the police say, good enough for me.

00:18:21.700 And to know what he says, I've been stabbed.

00:18:24.660 I can't breathe.

00:18:25.780 I'm dying.

00:18:26.960 And they're like, no, I'm going to take this guy's word over it.

00:18:31.120 The guy who's not stabbed.

00:18:33.120 And they cuff him.

00:18:34.360 It's hard to say what his chances of surviving the attack would have been anyway.

00:18:39.560 Nil, they said. Autopsy said nil.

00:18:42.840 Hard to say, but it went to zero the instant the police cuffed him.

00:18:47.840 They treated him with total lack of dignity and respect.

00:18:50.820 He was treated as a criminal in his dying moments instead of a victim in his own country, murdered by a guest.

00:19:01.240 and uh the british media i mean they're forced now to pay attention to it we're paying attention

00:19:08.920 to this now because the body camera footage has been released and it is so much worse than has

00:19:14.980 been reported by the legacy media the legacy media in canada have been virtually silent on it they've

00:19:19.940 got like a token story kind of hidden away somewhere so they're on the record but it's

00:19:23.600 kind of shuffled and hidden away um compared to literally thousands of stories you'll see on

00:19:29.660 legacy media stuff talk about george floyd even to this day a man who was not innocent a man who

00:19:34.100 was a criminal a man who was on fentanyl when he died uh again should not have died that was a bad

00:19:40.720 thing that happened but a far less sympathetic figure and people burned down cities for him

00:19:46.620 um so i'll go to use first all dave uh you know i guess i guess we got two englanders on the panel

00:19:53.540 But England's not voting its way out of this, are they?

00:20:00.820 No, it's well past that state.

00:20:05.220 The raging debate is the two-tier policing system that automatically elevates immigrants and migrants ahead of Indigenous British people.

00:20:16.480 And when a dying guy says, I've been stabbed, and the cop says, don't think so, mate.

00:20:23.600 Yeah, that was what I said.

00:20:24.880 They've got his handcuffed, and his hands are behind the back.

00:20:28.440 It was on the front page of every British newspaper today.

00:20:30.800 But his one hand was like pure white because of the blood loss.

00:20:35.980 So there was rioting in Southampton on the English coast last night.

00:20:41.220 All the right-wing British politicians were making hay out of it.

00:20:45.680 uh Rupert Lowe and uh Nigel Farage uh Farage says there's going to be more violence tonight

00:20:52.000 uh you know is it a tipping point probably not you know it'll go on for a couple days I mean

00:20:58.680 just look back at the um Southport daycare slayings where three little girls were stabbed

00:21:05.460 to death by a migrant that floor it's you know flared up for a few days and then uh then

00:21:10.320 disappeared so you know it's uh it's as an outsider uh as a british guy i you know i think i can say

00:21:19.600 britain is lost now and it's just a matter of uh time before people do get fed up and there's some

00:21:25.720 sort of rebellion um well that's kind of nodule that's where i was kind of going with it is i

00:21:31.540 don't think england's voting its way out of this anymore uh england voted for brexit in large

00:21:36.480 measure to control migration. And it never happened. Mass migration, legal and illegal,

00:21:43.140 is worse now than it ever was. It's totally out of control because the British establishment

00:21:47.500 doesn't have the stomach to do unpleasant things. And that means sinking boats, putting people back

00:21:55.940 on ships, sending them where they're from, even if they don't want to go back, even if those places

00:21:59.880 don't want them back. Remigration. They don't have the stomach for it. Britons have voted repeatedly

00:22:06.000 for that in both referenda and in elections and they still don't get it uh and actually we see

00:22:13.300 the same thing in much of continental europe people vote to get this under control but for

00:22:17.640 some reason it never gets better um i i don't want to sound hyperbolic i don't want to sound

00:22:25.720 alarmist but i i have a hard time not seeing a future where britain and most of europe

00:22:33.460 outright falls into something unrecognizably non-European or it descends into some kind of

00:22:41.400 civil war or significant unrest. Some people have compared what could be coming to the troubles

00:22:46.240 of Northern Ireland, but something that is not quite a state of peace.

00:22:53.000 You cannot overstate that. This has been percolating for about 70 years

00:23:00.000 since non-white immigration began in Great Britain.

00:23:04.320 And it began on a very small scale.

00:23:07.040 Nurses came in from Jamaica to help out with the national health system.

00:23:11.820 And they brought their husbands, their boyfriends,

00:23:14.400 and then other people started coming.

00:23:16.580 And people were saying, well, this is, I don't know whether I like this.

00:23:19.440 This is changing the nature of the place.

00:23:22.040 And a famous politician, famous in England anyway,

00:23:24.840 by the name of Enoch Powell, wrote a book,

00:23:27.360 which he said he saw, quoting his Latin education, Tiber flowing with much blood.

00:23:35.360 And, of course, they all descended on him en masse, expelled him.

00:23:41.360 He said he was a terrible man for writing things like that.

00:23:44.360 How could you be so racist when just 20 years ago we were at war with racists?

00:23:51.360 so the problem starts with nobody is prepared to distinguish between racism

00:23:59.520 and the legitimate defense of national identity because there is a difference and

00:24:06.400 powell was right all those years ago anybody who has said what pal since then has been declared

00:24:12.400 wrong by the media of course who just i i i fail to understand why they don't understand it so

00:24:19.120 therefore i assume that they have decided that if they've got to pick a side they'll pick a side

00:24:23.840 where they don't get criticized and where the politicians of the day will not accept being

00:24:30.320 called racist by people who have their own agenda for changing the face of britain and so then they

00:24:36.960 knuckle under and this is the kind of thing that happens it is the kind of thing that happens when

00:24:42.720 the three little girls were murdered they write that oh well he was mentally ill oh well and that's

00:24:48.080 not a migrant issue that's a mental illness politicians leaders won't face up to it and

00:24:56.240 i suspect that in the end the cantankerous nature of british public will assert itself and there

00:25:02.640 will be some kind of violence that changes thing i'm not advocating it but if you ignore people

00:25:08.400 for long enough and leave them no other option that is what they will do well that's what happens

00:25:12.720 when democratic legitimate legal means fails when you refuse to allow a legal means to do something

00:25:20.080 that is otherwise legitimate uh you know you essentially are closing of the relief valve

00:25:28.320 on the steam of public pressure and it can eventually blow in ways that are much less

00:25:34.480 pleasant much less legal much less civilized that's what happens um uh you know by contrast

00:25:42.080 you can relieve that by opening it you know cory mentioned you mentioned that we're talking about

00:25:46.720 you know the way the flq was killed in quebec was not necessarily just by rounding them all up the

00:25:52.560 an insurgent organization is extremely difficult to kill just by regular police raids it was killed

00:25:58.160 by the pq creating a democratic legitimate uh outlet for that for that movement rather than

00:26:06.080 a violent insurgent or insurgency. We've seen, you know, the biggest fear of most politicians

00:26:17.360 for our, I think most of our lives has been to be called an ist or an ism, a racist, a homophobe,

00:26:24.240 a transphobe, a Islamophobe, all of these silly, stupid words that perhaps had a meeting at some

00:26:32.560 point but have long since lost any currency they've been devalued like a dollar um but we're

00:26:39.200 seeing an emerging generation of political leaders that are not afraid of being called that anymore

00:26:46.480 uh you see it to an extent with trump for all his warts i think that is a strength of him is

00:26:50.800 he doesn't really care when people call him these names but we saw it from uh restore uk party leader

00:26:57.760 uh robert lowe that was the right name right yep robert lowe uh we saw it from reform party leader

00:27:04.640 nagel farage uh they don't care nagel farage said you know the family called for us you know to be

00:27:10.640 calm and not let this divide us he says but for the rest of us um we should feel rage rage and i

00:27:19.760 think he he captured the zeitgeist right now um i i but i just don't see i i i'm hesitant to think

00:27:31.040 that even if he had a reform uk government or or even a restore uk government at this point that i

00:27:36.560 i'm not sure that there's the state capacity and the will to do what's necessary at this point

00:27:41.760 because it's it's not a matter of i think just banning kirpins i mean i talked about that as a

00:27:46.960 as a double standard, but that was more emblematic and symbolic than anything else. I don't think

00:27:51.500 banning the Kirpan solves this problem because, you know, it's not just a Sikh migrant problem.

00:27:56.720 It is, it is destruction of English and British identity, period.

00:28:01.480 Well, I'm being from outside looking in from what I can gather, though, I hate to say it,

00:28:05.440 but it's going to have to get a lot worse before it gets better. And the establishment, the legacy

00:28:10.240 media, uh, constantly berating, I mean, you know, protests that Tommy Robinson held and other things

00:28:16.500 like that and say, oh, it was only a small amount of people, or they were all extremists. They're

00:28:19.760 all racists. That doesn't get rid of it. That inflames people further when their concerns are

00:28:24.900 being dismissed and you're not looking at the underlying cause. And when things descend into

00:28:28.480 a true mob rule, that's really the scary thing. I mean, there's many, you know, UK citizens who

00:28:33.240 are third generation of Indian origin. They can't speak a word of Hindi. They have no part of the

00:28:37.520 culture anymore. But when you get the mob going up and down the streets, they don't distinguish that.

00:28:41.880 and a lot of people are going to suffer.

00:28:45.520 This has been, you know, the warning shots have been going up in Europe

00:28:48.000 since I think really with the Syrian conflict.

00:28:51.080 It was kind of that tipping point where it really turned into a flood

00:28:53.540 and still the establishment is trying to suppress the concerned locals

00:28:59.240 in the UK and all throughout Europe.

00:29:02.220 It's just a time bomb.

00:29:05.580 Yeah, I don't know where it goes.

00:29:08.560 There's no other thing.

00:29:09.240 there's some moral superiority and just saying everybody's welcome we can manage it you are the

00:29:14.460 problem and of course that's not the case well that cultural relativism it's got to stop they're not

00:29:19.880 the same they're not equal and let's just call it out there's some bloody cultures in this world

00:29:24.320 that are stone-aged and we have to stop pretending that we have to embrace these practices and the

00:29:30.280 people who insist on it canada's only a few years away from being in the exact same boat we're not

00:29:35.120 far behind or not far behind and england is only a couple years behind france um yeah and look at

00:29:42.360 the uh destruction in france on the weekend when their soccer team one of the the champions league

00:29:49.480 hundreds and hundreds of migrants just rioting they use it as an excuse they're not celebrating

00:29:54.960 the team's win they're going out to commit crimes and arsons and lootings and you know dozens of

00:30:01.240 arrests and stuff like that so yeah i think france may be in worse shape than england

00:30:07.720 but england's not england's only a few years behind uh france and uh canada's only a few

00:30:12.440 years behind england but i want to talk about the symbolism of what this was you know the police

00:30:19.640 there represent the british state british state authority and they have the monopoly on legitimate

00:30:25.080 use of violence. And they, part of me wants to shoot the cops, but I don't think they're

00:30:34.620 necessarily guilty. We don't know these are bad guys. They were following protocol and

00:30:39.760 they are trained. Their manuals show, their websites show that the most vile thing anyone

00:30:47.360 could ever do is not even to be a racist, but be perceived as a racist. That's the worst,

00:30:54.020 that is the worst crime in our society we have it up there with pedophile in fact and

00:30:58.460 as we show now here it's worse than a murderer and they've been locking up people for facebook

00:31:03.560 posts yeah you know the police are very vigorous and going they'll be kicking down your door

00:31:07.940 you make you make an off-color joke yeah you know bobby shows up and hauls you off but you

00:31:13.860 have the representative of the british state and authority here and they follow the protocol that

00:31:21.600 is the mere accusation that the indigenous Briton made a racist comment nullifies anything that the

00:31:31.560 migrant did and makes his very self-evident multiples of serious stab wounds somehow less

00:31:41.340 serious. And so the symbol of this is that the British authority and state ignore the guest

00:31:49.900 in the country and arrest and oppress the indigenous britain who was literally bleeding

00:31:58.800 to death in their hands that someone needs to make this into some kind of renaissance painting

00:32:07.700 because the symbolism is so strong that it's impossible to ignore and i i i think you're

00:32:15.240 right, Dave, that I don't think it's the tipping point. I think there's going to be hundreds or

00:32:20.580 thousands more of these cases until that tipping point is reached. Yeah. And migrants have also

00:32:27.860 taken over major British cities. Like Birmingham is now completely a Muslim city, Muslim run.

00:32:33.760 London is only 33% English. Yeah, exactly. And the other thing that policemen do is they go down

00:32:40.400 they take down union jacks they take down the flag of saint george why oh because that's going

00:32:46.160 to offend the uh the non-english people here we don't want uh you know they're they're talking

00:32:52.080 about creating you know the muslims being afraid of dogs so you're not allowed to walk your dogs and

00:32:57.520 in parks anymore it's uh it really is completely over the top nobody has yet nobody in government

00:33:07.440 has yet made the case as to why the british people should accept any of this they have acted as though

00:33:15.920 they should they have demanded that the police apply the law in a certain way which we talk

00:33:22.000 about as the two-tier legal system um but they have never nobody to my knowledge has ever come

00:33:28.960 out and said things have changed around here this is the new look and this is why it is a good thing

00:33:35.360 and that we're doing it oh no they have made the case you get curry i love curry i could

00:33:42.000 make it all the time i order it frequently enough but you get to enjoy multiculturalism and no doubt

00:33:47.760 there's a bunch of it that i enjoy but they're saying this is the price of a multicultural

00:33:52.720 society you've heard that phrase used who actually who actually made that case uh i

00:33:57.920 forget who actually used that term i'm not sure if it's kirsch darmer or if it was actually mom

00:34:00.960 domi um but uh it may be mom dummy when there was a similar kind of racial in new york maybe who

00:34:07.840 knows but but they often say this is the price of a multicultural society uh but it's just an

00:34:14.240 individual you should have a multicultural society because because we are just better because

00:34:20.800 diversity is our strength yeah which i you know i can't believe normal people used to parrot

00:34:27.520 crap like that this another word for diversity is disunity i like having different things

00:34:35.360 i mean we're diverse here you guys are from england you're part jewish it's okay uh but

00:34:41.120 you know you also need things that unite you and a simple economic zone and financial transfers

00:34:48.480 between peoples and regions do not a country make no one ever died for an economic zone people die

00:34:55.200 for a family, they die for

00:34:57.140 a community on different scales.

00:34:59.140 It could be a local or it could be a nation.

00:35:01.120 People don't die for a passport.

00:35:03.700 People don't fight and sacrifice

00:35:05.480 because you share

00:35:07.180 a piece of paper in common.

00:35:09.280 And this has just destroyed us everywhere.

00:35:11.400 Not just England, it's destroyed us everywhere.

00:35:13.460 We have no sense of nations anymore.

00:35:15.220 If we still had a sense of nation in Canada, do you think

00:35:17.320 we'd be having a referendum on independence right now?

00:35:19.820 Not a chance.

00:35:24.080 All right.

00:35:25.200 let's move on before I say something politically incorrect

00:35:28.840 all right

00:35:31.320 so a good segue

00:35:34.980 independence

00:35:35.800 Corey

00:35:38.200 you talked about this on your show today

00:35:40.520 I know Marty up north was talking about it on his

00:35:42.820 the other day

00:35:43.640 Danielle Smith has walked

00:35:46.540 an incredibly skillful

00:35:48.980 tightrope walk

00:35:49.880 on the independence question going back to her

00:35:52.880 leadership race with the Sovereignty Act which

00:35:54.700 her critics, I think, are actually quite correct to say

00:35:57.900 it was a wink, wink, nudge, nudge to the

00:35:59.820 movement.

00:36:01.400 It was a brilliant dog whistle to the

00:36:03.840 movement. Worked on me.

00:36:06.180 I think worked to an extent on you.

00:36:08.900 She's walked this

00:36:09.680 tightrope, she's had this tightrope walk

00:36:11.320 and being largely

00:36:13.740 neutral on it, saying, well, my job

00:36:15.760 as a premier is to make Alberta

00:36:17.920 work in Canada, but I'm

00:36:19.780 staying out of this referendum politics, but people are

00:36:21.840 entitled to the vote, and they should have it,

00:36:23.640 and, you know, there's

00:36:25.780 a lot of zigs and zags

00:36:28.140 getting to whatever this ballot is that we're having

00:36:29.960 but, in terms of

00:36:32.120 her communications, she has

00:36:34.200 as of late abandoned neutrality

00:36:36.400 I think

00:36:38.340 in large measure, due

00:36:40.180 to pressure from politicians, mostly

00:36:42.080 outside of Alberta, she just

00:36:44.100 got sick of being called traitor

00:36:45.420 and they still will, so that's the

00:36:47.800 idiocy of this move she's doing

00:36:49.240 she's not winning those people over

00:36:51.920 They're not coming to her. They were never going to be with her. But she was taking this heat. I think she overcorrected. And now she's saying some bizarre things like, oh, well, Alberta would have to take its share of the Canadian national debt, which to me is one of the best arguments for leaving because that debt goes up by gargantuan amounts every single day.

00:37:11.800 every day albert delays independence that share of the debt gets bigger and it and there's zero

00:37:16.840 prospect of it stopping getting bigger uh staying in canada it's only going to get larger and larger

00:37:21.480 and we still have to own that debt um using wild numbers saying that establishing an independent

00:37:28.120 alberta would be cost something in the neighborhood of 400 billion dollars like okay so if an

00:37:34.600 independent alberta was planning on buying aircraft carriers to patrol the you know the

00:37:39.640 the South of Saskatchewan River.

00:37:41.040 She went on the assumption that Alberta would join NATO

00:37:43.360 and commit $25 billion a year to being a NATO member.

00:37:47.100 That was part of her speech.

00:37:48.200 That was the number she gave out, part of that $400 billion.

00:37:51.020 Like, I still am floored by somebody who's such a communicator,

00:37:54.460 who knows these things, who went on a tirade

00:37:56.660 that Lukasik would have blushed over.

00:37:58.600 It was crazy.

00:37:59.400 And, again, I've said it in my own show.

00:38:02.540 I don't expect her to become an independent supporter

00:38:05.720 or to campaign on that, but to go way over on this,

00:38:09.640 and inflamed. That's what I'm most, well, second most worried about. I mean,

00:38:14.400 independent supporter, I want to see, I don't think she turned anybody away from supporting

00:38:18.000 independence by doing that, but she inflamed them and they're going to turn at her. And that's where

00:38:24.240 we've seen many a time what happens in conservative parties when you get, and I'm talking the

00:38:28.620 volunteer class of the party, not just the independent space. We're talking the busy bees,

00:38:34.100 the ones who do sell memberships, the ones who do show up at meetings, the ones who will campaign.

00:38:38.560 7,000 of them went out to do that petitioning and they've swallowed a lot of gall getting this

00:38:43.020 watered down mushy non-committal answer and then to have her seem to turn fully against them I just

00:38:49.160 see some very politically dangerous uh moves on the part of the premier right now she should really

00:38:55.340 when she first said that balancing act saying it's my job to make sure a yes vote doesn't happen she

00:39:00.640 wasn't saying to ban a referendum she was saying if we do things right we can change things from

00:39:04.780 within and people won't feel they have to vote yes that's fair enough that was fine but that

00:39:10.240 means get a pension plan get a police force get a collector on taxes and she hasn't done a bloody

00:39:14.560 thing and now people have said enough we're sick of waiting I just I yeah I'm getting crabby because

00:39:18.840 I've been very supportive of her for a long time yeah and she's crossing a line now so if I'm

00:39:23.100 getting this crabby what are the other ones yeah you know uh you know we've had um uh

00:39:30.800 independent supporters who i think uh you know have at times i don't think been reasonable you

00:39:38.480 know they they were so angry over this referendum question that they called for launching a second

00:39:44.060 front during a referendum campaign to take danielle smith out of the leadership and you and i have

00:39:48.180 both been very critical of that strategy still we were talking about like it's like a schlieffen

00:39:52.640 plan except it wasn't a plan they just did schlieffen when the war's already started it's not

00:39:58.100 a good idea um i've been critical of that but by inserting herself as a another advocate on the

00:40:08.020 other side actively campaigning they're kind of giving them some ammo that they should come after

00:40:14.900 it's hard to counter those who have been calling for her head on a pike i've been trying as i said

00:40:19.060 for months to cool them down and then premier smith just goes and proves them right on a whole

00:40:23.060 bunch of fronts well i think you guys are overreacting she's she said a couple weeks ago

00:40:28.740 she's proudly canadian surely albertan sure and she will do everything she can to keep the

00:40:33.620 the uh the province in a sovereign alberta in within canada that's what she said well

00:40:40.980 she's outright campaigning what she said she was gonna do well she also said she gives a pension

00:40:48.100 plan and a police force and well then you guys release some of your figures yeah that they are

00:40:52.580 the figures are out there you've read your articles you've edited but why you need somebody

00:40:58.980 a leader to to be out there and hold a press conference the day after smith does this that

00:41:05.060 that absolute black conference and then refute it that absolute lack on the part of the independence

00:41:09.860 movement is very valid uh you know where was the counterpoint where was the press release where is

00:41:14.980 the leader well they're all busy i don't know what the heck they're doing with each other inside the

00:41:18.100 the APP but it's not campaigning

00:41:19.720 but that's what I mean is

00:41:21.960 I'm just I'm honestly speaking with

00:41:24.060 the crabbiness I am about Smith

00:41:26.020 sinking herself with this though

00:41:27.900 I mean that's the thing they are disorganized

00:41:29.960 but they'll point towards a target and

00:41:32.020 there's 7,000 little workers who might work

00:41:33.940 towards it as long as her

00:41:35.880 poll numbers continue the way they

00:41:37.940 are and that she continues to thrash

00:41:40.060 and then she I think she's safe

00:41:41.760 I don't like I've

00:41:43.520 predicted for a long time that

00:41:45.700 she's going to be the first Alberta Conservative

00:41:47.700 of premier to finish a term since ralph klein 2005 i really hope she does yeah but what she's

00:41:55.500 setting herself up for now is that if the independent side of the referendum fails

00:42:01.700 they're going to be angry they're still they'll probably be fairly organized by then and they're

00:42:06.960 going to turn around for someone to blame and it's going to be her kenny was always the enemy

00:42:13.320 luke hasik was always the enemy nancy was always the enemy and there's no sense of betrayal from

00:42:17.380 these guys there because they've always been over there when smith was seen as if not their ally

00:42:22.380 at least someone who understands them and will be okay and stay out of the fight uh but by making

00:42:27.380 herself an active combatant and peddling some pretty bunky numbers 400 billion dollars fine

00:42:34.940 if we're going to build aircraft carriers yeah maybe then it costs that but there was a university

00:42:40.360 of alberta economist said she was under you know under your uh i mean more than 400 170 billion

00:42:47.080 what she claimed in that number, was assuming part of a debt. Well, that's assuming we don't

00:42:50.680 have the debt if we stay within Canada. These are liabilities we already have on our books.

00:42:55.000 These are not nearly spent. That's a wash one way or not.

00:42:57.400 I think I'm with Dave on this one. What Smith wants, her critics want a revolution. They want

00:43:05.640 a revolutionary confrontation and they want her to lead it. She's not there. She's pursuing an

00:43:11.320 evolutionary assertion of provincial rights trying to keep the economy going trying to keep the uh

00:43:19.160 the federal government at bay she's consistently pushed back on on firearms on uh health care

00:43:27.000 yesterday's announcement's perfect example immigration resources like sure it's it's not

00:43:33.800 hard to go out and raise the bonnie blue flag and say follow me but follow where to what

00:43:40.680 happens next yeah but but she relied on independent supporters for her support they put her in the

00:43:45.400 premium she knows that and if she is if she says what she says and realizes that that's what she's

00:43:51.080 going to lose so be it she's a smart woman she will make that uh but it may not that may not be

00:43:56.920 the equation because if um if you're a federalist and you want somebody to back are you gonna back

00:44:04.920 uh somebody like mr nenshi who inspires no confidence in anything whatsoever or are you

00:44:10.840 going to say well i don't particularly like danielle smith but i'm going to go with her on

00:44:15.080 this one because i actually favor staying in canada but she may not be wrong but among the

00:44:19.960 conservative possible voter universe in alberta oh well that too because you're not going to get

00:44:25.160 die-hard socialists to vote for danielle smith because daniel smith stood on the federal line

00:44:29.400 they're going to stay with the ndp which is unified on the issue uh you have within all

00:44:35.240 potential among committed and potential conservative voters in alberta so call that

00:44:41.080 at its maximum 60 percent two-thirds of those people roughly speaking are independent supporters

00:44:47.640 and then you and it's even more so when you break it down into active party members people who

00:44:51.240 actually go and go to board meetings knock on doors you know donate 20 bucks here and there

00:44:56.440 um she needs to be prepared that if she's going to be an active combatant on the other side of

00:45:03.080 this issue from them that they're going to come for for her and cory and i have you know been

00:45:09.160 telling these guys simmer down clear engines this is a stupid strategy when you're trying to fight

00:45:14.620 the referendum but if she inserts herself there i still don't think it'd be a smart idea to try

00:45:18.620 and take her out at the same time still isn't but that's what i mean she's yeah but she's setting

00:45:23.060 herself up that after the referendum win or lose they're then going to come for her yeah i think

00:45:30.140 you're too close to the next election after the referendum nope they can uh the the way the ucb

00:45:36.560 constitution is designed the constituency associations about a quarter of the constituency

00:45:40.540 association 22 of them 22 can pass a resolution demanding a special general meeting essentially

00:45:45.180 recall them that's what got the uh the leadership vote against kenny they could do that to her too

00:45:51.380 sure with a few months left until the next election well they might be that self-destructive

00:45:56.460 if they're that mad we're not talking about good tactics we're talking about an enraged

00:46:00.120 core of worker bees and they might do something stupid yeah i just realized uh getting the flag

00:46:06.540 we're actually out of time so uh too bad we were having a good i think we're we're riffing here

00:46:11.720 all right uh parting shots quick uh red deer rcmp released a risk uh uh press release today on a

00:46:21.740 high risk offender a child uh idophile who was being released into the area after serving his

00:46:28.780 jail term and the line in the release struck me that said rcmp expect him to commit a crime again

00:46:34.820 against a child then why the hell is this guy out on the street you know we don't have to deal with

00:46:41.140 parole if we just throw them in the wood chipper all right just legacy media announced that we're

00:46:46.740 in a technical recession that's like saying we're half pregnant we're in a recession yeah yeah

00:46:53.540 government and to that point mr carney was explaining that we're in a recession because

00:47:00.100 immigration has slowed down we're not spending as much government money and furthermore so that

00:47:06.420 just goes to the point that we've been making for years that anything that looked like growth in

00:47:11.260 canada in the last five years was just irresponsible use of immigration to pad the numbers he's just

00:47:16.660 said it himself all right all right nope we're out of time so none for me i'll just second what

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Western Standard - June 06, 2026

THE PIPELINE： Smith’s leadership gets wobbly

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