Western Standard Opinion Editor Nigel Hanford and Publisher Derek Fildebrandt are back after a short hiatus to discuss the Trudeau government's carbon tax, the removal of a portion of the carbon tax in Atlantic Canada, and the ban on prayers at Remembrance Day ceremonies.
00:02:40.380Hamas has really never, ever been subtle about its genocidal intention.0.98
00:02:45.160But we're going to talk less about Hamas's genocidal intentions and actions and the open support for Hamas's genocidal intentions and actions right here in Canada and North America and the Western world more broadly.0.71
00:03:00.460And how this has somehow become acceptable, politically and socially acceptable, to openly support genocidal actions.
00:03:08.480And, well, speaking of lest we forget, never forget kind of stuff, Remembrance Day coming up, the federal government putting its orders through the military to ban prayer at Remembrance Day ceremonies for chaplains.
00:03:25.480And, well, the Western Standards, one of the Western Standards senior columnists, Linda Slobodian, really picking up that story and shedding light on it and getting the federal government to reverse its ban on Remembrance Day prayer at ceremonies this coming Remembrance Day.
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00:04:22.120rest so four days just four days before the Liberals announced a regional car
00:04:33.080vote for liberal seats in Atlantic Canada Environment Minister Stephen
00:04:39.100Gilbo, who, despite being a radical, at the very least, the other side of the coin being a radical
00:04:43.940is principle. There's no doubt he believes in what he's doing. He's consistent. I'd almost
00:04:50.280wish that he was a charlatan, typical politician who will just take the easy way out. He'd be less
00:04:56.200destructive if so. But at least he believes in what he's doing. And he said, it would not be
00:05:02.780fair to have regional carve-outs. This is about the environment. This is even the planet, for
00:05:06.840God's sakes. We can't have regional car votes for so-called affordability. This is saving the
00:05:10.700world. No regional car votes. Four days later, the Liberals announced that Atlantic Canada is
00:05:18.080going to get a big break on the carbon tax. Good for Atlantic Canadians. Good for them. By0.50
00:05:24.100not imposing the carbon tax for three years on home heating oil. And okay, good enough. But what
00:05:33.460the rest of the country because that's a source of home heating that is used pretty much exclusively
00:05:38.980in the Atlantic and you know like say cottages in Ontario that are off the grid you might you
00:05:44.580might see it a few places like that but it's uh it's it's almost a minuscule almost irrelevant
00:05:51.140number outside of Atlantic Canada for people's primary heating people's primary homes in the
00:05:55.940In the West, in Ontario, we tend to use natural gas, which emits, I don't know, less than half the CO2 emissions of home heating oil.
00:07:28.840Nigel, this has been, I don't think there's any silver lining for the liberals here.
00:07:34.540Do you think Atlantic Canadians, is this going to be still any net political win for the liberals at all?
00:07:41.060No, I highly doubt it. Not a net win, certainly, because even if they've made friends in Atlantic Canada, they haven't made any friends anywhere else.
00:07:51.240But they don't need friends in the prairies. They're not going to win seats here anyway. So what does it matter?
00:07:56.520But so who is going to be impressed by that?
00:08:01.440I mean, first of all, the minister who made that foolish comment about electing more liberals,
00:08:07.940if that had been a conservative who had said something like that, that would be called a bozo eruption.
00:08:21.460Like, as tough as we're on a lot of legacy media here, I think even the legacy media have picked up that, no, like, of course we do pork barrel politics, of course we do regional asymmetrical federalism in Canada, but you're not supposed to say it out loud, you're not supposed to be so openly crass about it, you're supposed to be a quiet, greasy politician, you're not supposed to advertise it, so, like, even the legacy media, I think, have said, like, come on, you can't do this.
00:08:47.560was reported but it'll go away but you know really this illustrates the fundamental fallacy of the
00:08:54.040whole carbon tax idea in the first place in order for a carbon tax to work it had to change behavior
00:09:02.920in order to change behavior it had to hurt people and when it started to hurt people in
00:09:10.520a liberal stronghold then they finally realized what they were doing but it doesn't matter they
00:09:19.320wanted to hurt people right across the country they wanted to make it more difficult more
00:09:24.760expensive to drive to work to keep your home heated um that's the iniquity of this whole
00:09:32.040scheme right from the very start years ago when everybody was saying well this would be a good
00:09:35.400idea we'll just sort of ramp it up and it'll be like the proverbial frog in the boiling water
00:09:40.680and you know they'll get used to it they'll change their behavior they can't you your workplace does
00:09:47.160not come any closer to your home because there's a carbon tax it's no easier to heat your house
00:09:53.960because there's a carbon tax so they actually meant to impoverish people
00:09:57.640So Corey, of course, people in the West are angry. Opponents of carbon tax are angry. But for the first time, there's been a massive breaking, if not shattering of liberal supporting ranks on this in academia, media, even some non-parliamentary elements of the liberal constellation, if we can call it that.
00:10:19.600Supporters of the carbon tax and the liberals are pissed. Like, you know, you have Trevor Toome, professor at the University of Calgary. He's been a big booster of it. And he's an intellectually honest supporter of it. And he's saying, like, well, look, this shatters the whole thing. There's no point to the carbon tax now. You're undermining it.
00:10:41.980This is also it's also clearly just not fair regionally.
00:10:46.880This has undermined liberal support from amongst prominent supporters of both the liberals or certain liberal policies.
00:10:55.660This is Trudeau's and the liberal signature policy this last eight years.
00:11:02.580He lost all the credibility on two fronts.
00:11:05.440I listened to him babble a word salad yesterday when he was talking and spitting out how dirty heating oil is and how it's so important to get people off it.
00:11:12.980But then, well, the whole rationale of your tax then would mean, if anything, you should increase it on the heating oil instead of getting rid of it.
00:15:02.540Well, I don't think that's going to be the perception
00:15:05.000because we've already got the Sovereignty Act out there.
00:15:08.300Our opposition to Bill C-69 clearly stated,
00:15:12.200I mean, Scott Moe, I would never accuse him of lagging, but Daniel Smith has certainly been out in front in any kind of confrontation with Ottawa.
00:15:24.700Their spirit has been, but in terms of concrete actions we can take in retaliation, Saskatchewan's got a stronger hand here.
00:15:31.140Well, they do, and they're using it and power to them.
00:15:33.880I hope nobody goes to jail, but that in itself, I think, would appall people in all parts of the country, regardless of what they think about the issues.
00:15:45.740Because when you start taking on the elected representatives of people, you are...
00:15:51.880I think you might be ahead of some people listening and watching that the legislate, a lot of this legislation, federal legislation gives the federal government the power to use the criminal code of Canada to imprison politicians that do not fall in line with federal emissions mandates.
00:16:12.620So that comes in under the Environmental Protection Act.
00:16:15.660Yeah, so I think, I just want folks to know that the federal, they have an exercise as far as we know, but they have the ability to jail provincial politicians that do not fall in line with federal policy, which is unprecedented.
00:16:28.720If you really want, if you as the prime minister of the country really wanted to drive a wedge between Western Canada and the rest of the country, that would be the way to do it.
00:16:40.260Yeah. And I actually, even in Ontario, I don't know what Quebec would think about it, but the fact is that in a lot of ways, Alberta and Quebec want the same things constitutionally.
00:16:54.700I don't think Quebec on principle, even if they like the reason that an Alberta politician would go to jail or a Saskatchewan politician go to jail, I don't think Quebec on principle would be in favor of Ottawa's ability to jail provincial politicians for not following federal law.
00:17:07.860I'm sure they would not for all kinds of obvious reasons. So I think that actually is a line that the federal government can't cross. They can threaten, they can bully. But when it actually came to it, I don't think they will.
00:17:22.600You know, I'd be out there front and center and you know what I'd propose in such a sense.
00:17:25.360Also, if you want to be acclaimed emperor of Saskatchewan, Alberta, the best way to do it is to get thrown in jail by the federal government for not imposing attacks on your own people.
00:17:35.360I mean, that's, that's, that's good politics if I am Versailles.
00:18:01.440But I think it's got a little more currency and explicit expectation in the Atlantic than here, because we tend not to be the beneficiary of pork barrel politics to the extent that Atlantic is.
00:18:15.080But this is so open and crass, especially when the Liberal minister said, well, if you want it, you've got to vote Liberal too.
00:18:22.780You're just not supposed to say that out loud.
00:18:26.260Nigel, do you think this is going to get much mileage in Atlantic Canada?
00:18:29.800Because in three years, if they re-elect the Liberals, they're going to pay the carbon tax anyway.
00:19:21.520because there are certain reasons why.
00:19:24.740In that case, the PCs under Jean Charest
00:19:26.820ran to the left of the Liberals in Atlantic Canada, not elsewhere, but in Atlantic Canada,
00:19:31.780Jean Charest PCs ran to the left of the Liberals to save kind of the old corrupt system.
00:19:38.260Right. So, you know, there's a long history of relationships between families and parties. My
00:19:45.700grandfather was a conservative and my grandfather was a liberal, whichever it happens to be,
00:19:50.500therefore I am a conservative, therefore I am a liberal. But when they can see how the numbers
00:19:56.820match up. They're smart, and they will vote according to what's going to work for them.
00:20:02.660So right now, they're probably thinking, oh, that's great. That was nice of them. We'll
00:20:07.860save money now. What about in three years' time? Mr. Polliver says he'll get rid of the
00:20:13.200carbon tax altogether. Maybe we should vote for the Conservatives anyway. So I can't see
00:20:20.320this thing working for the Liberals, even in Atlantic Canada, but perhaps they've conceived
00:20:25.720Even it is their best shot right now, in which case we're really in trouble.
00:20:29.940It does show you that it does pay to have a region's vote able to change.
00:20:34.420That's one reason conservatives don't even do great.
00:20:39.560Like Albertans don't even do necessarily great under federal conservative governments for Alberta is because our vote can be taken for granted.
00:20:48.080I mean, they tend to screw the West less than the liberals.
00:20:51.160And they don't openly brag about screwing the West the way the liberals might.
00:20:55.720And they try not to actively harm it, but, you know, they're not going to spend a ton of political capital for the West because the vote's in the bag.
00:21:03.700There's, you know, in Alberta and Saskatchewan combined, maybe three seats up for grabs that they could lose at worst if things tanked.
00:21:11.440So it makes you wonder sometimes what would happen if the Liberals said, you know, as long as we're reviewing policies, I think we actually made a mistake with C-69.
00:21:20.580We're pulling it off the table. Would that get the support of the Liberals in Alberta?
00:21:24.740The Liberals could repeal the carbon tax, the No More Pipelines Act, the tanker ban.
00:21:29.800I don't think it would result in a single new seat for the Liberals here.
00:21:33.120And so the Liberals, the straight political math, would be not smart to do anything for Alberta
00:21:39.700because we're just not going to vote for them because we don't trust them in their hearts.
00:21:43.020Just the way the Conservatives are always pandering to Quebec, and it still doesn't pay off.
00:21:47.360I mean, it doesn't, the conservatives keep on trying to pander to Quebec, and
00:21:52.320you know, they have a fairly low ceiling. Although, you know, they might pick up a little bit,
00:21:57.360but it's not going to pay off big. So if I'm advising Justin Trudeau, I'd say no,
00:22:01.600do nothing for the West. It's not going to get us anything.
00:22:04.800And then we'll get him out a little quicker. Good. Yeah. I'm with that.
00:22:08.640Oh, yeah. Well, bring things a little closer to home. This Friday evening, the Alberta United
00:22:14.640conservative party gathers here in calgary uh where is it now is on the stampede grounds big
00:22:20.320four bmo okay yeah the bmo um uh for their annual uh annual general meeting their convention uh
00:22:28.240their first big gathering since um since since their victory in the last election uh last uh
00:22:35.200in last may uh now the last time they gathered was it was in edmonton um and uh it was smith's
00:22:43.600first convention as leader uh people were kind of nervous about how's this gonna go because you know
00:22:49.440the party establishment was pretty uniformly against her uh but you had take back alberta
00:22:54.640come in and make a very big splash you know they've made a splash in the leadership before but
00:22:59.120then they dominated the elections for the for the board of that party and
00:23:03.680people never pay attention to outside of like the most hardcore of hardcore party members outside
00:23:08.800of that no one cares about these internal party board elections because they seem to be of very
00:23:12.240little consequence but these boards actually have a fairly big influence on the politics
00:23:16.880of any jurisdiction uh half the seats were up for election last time and this take back alberta
00:23:22.640group won every single one that was up so they took half the board um although i think the media
00:23:28.240portrayed them a bit much too much as like a uniform political party with internal discipline
00:23:32.560they're not like that it's a it's kind of a loosely organized rabble that sometimes acts together
00:23:37.840sometimes not but they're making a play for the other half of the board now
00:23:44.140Cory but take back Alberta has been painted very much as a boogeyman in the
00:23:49.960media are you expecting much of a splash from take back Alberta and this kind of
00:23:58.000stuff at this convention this weekend well I if past performance is in the
00:24:03.780indicator they're gonna sweep the other half of these seats I mean it's an area
00:24:07.000have high apathy. If you've got a group that's organizing well, it's relatively not that hard
00:24:11.440to take over all those board seats because people don't pay attention to it. How much splash to be
00:24:16.860again? I mean, there's the people who always oppose the UCP. So they'll try and paint it as
00:24:20.580if this boogeyman is going to, you know, take the party into the realms of the insane or
00:24:24.860admittedly, Mr. Parker's social media presence does make some people uncomfortable when he likes
00:24:30.660Yeah, but in reality, I mean, when it comes to the board versus caucus two, I mean, they basically, they run the party, and they can influence caucus, but caucus is caucus, that's up to Premier Smith and her advisors, the amount of impact it'll have an actual policy is still going to be limited. So I guess we'll see how much of a Tempest and a teapot opponents to this will try and make of it.
00:24:54.720hopefully there's not too many screaming matches or sort of events that can happen at these AGMs
00:24:59.340that people paint and saying, look, the party's all divided. But I don't think it'll make too
00:25:03.820big a splash in the long, long game anyways. I won't ask you if you think they're going to win
00:25:08.880it or not. I mean, that's hard to say. It depends how well organized they are. The last convention,
00:25:12.860they were obviously very well organized. They swept every single spot that was open. Now the
00:25:17.120other half is open this time, including the party president's job. Although there seems to have been
00:25:22.100some effort to broker a candidate in Rick Orman, who's I think seen as fairly trusted by both the
00:25:30.560establishment and the more populist insurrectionists and take back Alberta. So I think there's an attempt
00:25:36.680to broker a piece in that position, but everything else seems to be a bit more contested. Do you
00:25:45.260think Smith at this point is happy to have take back? Because take back Alberta is very much seen
00:25:50.240as an ally of Smith because she was the anti establishment who insurgent candidate in the
00:25:55.300leadership and benefited from their support but she is now the leader and sort of the new
00:26:04.360establishment you know that's the thing the revolution becomes the counter revolution once
00:26:10.780you take power do you think she's still happy to have this group active and pushing forward or she
00:26:21.180Sure, she has an idea that these people could be difficult if she doesn't do what they think is the right and proper thing to do.
00:26:30.260But much more powerful for her is the very fact that she wins the confidence of the people who actually can return her as premier in three and a half years' time.
00:26:44.080So if she is perceived by the general public in Alberta as being an effective and successful
00:26:50.800premier, it doesn't really matter much what the ginger group inside the party is attempting to do
00:26:59.920because it's not ultimately going to go anywhere. It's a very British Westminster term. I know what
00:27:04.480it means. Ginger group. Yeah, an internal group within a party, like a pressure group within a
00:27:08.640Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, Corey is right. These guys can have their ideas about policy, but in the end, it's like a caucus as to what gets done.
00:27:18.040Yes and no. Jason Kenney lost a lot of caucus support, but even when he went down, he still had a slim majority of caucus support.
00:27:26.160And while he lost a lot of support in the public, he had more support in the general public than he did in the party.
00:27:32.900Other than Prentice, who lost the general election and didn't have time to lose the support of his own party.
00:27:36.940every conservative premier from Klein to Kenny lost their job from internal revolt, not external.
00:27:45.880So you've got to keep your eye on several crowds. There's the public, how you doing the polls there,
00:27:51.060there's the caucus, and the membership slash party activists. And it's been a combination
00:27:57.340of caucus and activists who have taken down every conservative premier, with the exception of
00:28:01.540Prentice who lost to a general election since Klein. Thing is, Derek, they lose when they are
00:28:09.420weakened and were perceived to be weakened and not able to bring home the next election. That's when
00:28:16.760people are able to get the shiv in. You know, it's too early to say what people will be thinking in
00:28:22.180three and a half years' time, but that's your strength, is the popularity with the public.
00:28:28.240Well, so far, Smith does seem to be strong with all of them, caucus, the membership slash activists, and the public.
00:28:56.440Okay, well, on to a happier subject. Make genocide great again. We debated this headline at our morning meeting today. It's about the crassest headline I've ever written, but I thought it captured things.
00:29:12.060you know, we're wearing poppies right now, but remembrance, you know, we talk in terms of
00:29:19.580genocide of the Jewish people in the 20th century, never again, never forget. And we're seeing
00:29:27.420Hamas, whose founding charter is genocidal, and their every action since their founding has been0.93
00:29:35.080genocidal. Actually, I think we actually have a clip from Representative Hamas. Let's just hear0.88
00:31:43.740There have been some more reasonable liberals out there who have been appalled at what they're seeing on their own side of the fence.
00:31:49.960Like, holy shit, guys, this is not us.
00:31:55.300You know, the Jews weren't just a fashionable minority for a while. And now we've got other more fashionable minorities there. There are people that must be protected.0.87
00:32:05.300But this is open support for genocide. And it's either being a certain denialism among the domestic left in the West or among certain political conservatives being just as bad.
00:32:20.300is bad, actually. I'll say on social media, I've been getting it from both sides when I talk to
00:32:24.380this issue. Oh, it's the Zionist conspiracy theory. Those Zionists have to be wiped off the0.78
00:32:29.620map. It's just those Jews controlling everything. And this is coming from crazed right wing. So1.00
00:32:34.300the crazed left and the right have actually found some common ground. But that is the,
00:32:38.300when I say far right, I mean far. Yeah. Right. The extreme genuine crazies, not, you know,
00:32:46.580uh how we would get called far right yeah there is a hundred miles of difference between us far0.82
00:32:52.900right and therefore there's always room to move over yeah yeah but support for what hamas is doing
00:33:00.020here is among the mainstream left union bosses academics even uh politicians using a bit more
00:33:11.140failed language but supporting what's happening to some extent and it just seems to be a mainstreaming
00:33:18.180of support for genocidal actions or quasi-genocidal like you know you had mobs of pro-Palestine,
00:33:27.460pro-Hamas activists going through Toronto outside of the Lanver Cafe, a chain of Jewish restaurants.0.75
00:33:35.780Jews that make schnitzel, so I got to try these people out. I actually walked by that restaurant in Toronto a couple this summer. I really should have gone. But also going even protesting and threatening outside of a Jewish community center with daycares and a pool outside.
00:33:52.260This is clearly not an Israel thing, and Israel is just another state that we think is oppressive and colonial.0.68
00:33:59.400It's, they're outside the Jewish community center.0.90
00:34:03.400It's friggin' clear, and we've seen this shit before.
00:34:08.580I just don't know, at what point did open support for pogroms and genocide become politically acceptable in Canada?
00:36:05.260So in preparing for this discussion, I went through several of the clips of the main stories,
00:36:12.620like at York University and in Toronto.
00:36:17.300and there was a law school, and quite a lot of times you see the people
00:36:21.600with the microphones look like they would fit in pretty well in Gaza.
00:36:27.820So to what extent is this a rejection of Israel and Jewishness
00:36:37.680by what I might call mainstream Canadians?
00:36:41.160And what is, to what extent is it the actions of people who we tolerate among us when times are quiet, but who, when they have an excuse, come to the surface and present this remarkable picture as if Canada was awash in hate?
00:36:59.940I don't believe it is. And I think that the people who do not hate and the people who, you know, need to step forward.
00:37:08.420I don't buy the sort of silence is violence argument, but I was pleased to see that in the story that highlighted the activism and the protests and the violent language in some of these universities,
00:37:24.480the university administrations actually did step forward and say this is not
00:37:29.640anything that we support the students unions do what they do but we totally
00:37:35.080reject this there needs to be more a public rejection I would like to see
00:37:40.000maybe some of our political leaders you know the government itself well
00:37:45.360stepping out and saying this won't do and a police presence to make sure that
00:37:49.920if they are boycotting a restaurant or something nobody gets hurt there's kind
00:37:54.300of, I think, two big pillars to these very violent, dangerous language and actions we're
00:38:00.040seeing on the streets right now. And oh, God, this conversation could get us in trouble with CRTC,
00:38:05.080and we're going to get kicked off TV here and cable, but we've got to have it at least
00:38:09.560respectfully here. There's the domestic left, for lack of a better term, the left, you know,
00:38:15.200it's unions, academia, and, you know, they consider, well, Jews are practically white,0.58
00:38:21.340and white people are bad. And this is a colonial oppression, social justice thing, that's how they0.71
00:38:27.300see it. And then there's diaspora communities coming from the Islamic world. And I guess
00:38:32.660there's just a brotherly sense of solidarity and belonging among fellow Muslims. And I can
00:38:40.480appreciate that. Okay, you have something in common, your brothers in arms kind of thing.
00:38:45.400And I get that, but they're bringing the politics of that and the hate of that to here. And
00:38:51.180And, you know, mass migration, immigration to an extent is generally a good thing.
00:38:56.780It's a country of immigration. We're built on it. We have to continue doing it.
00:39:00.040But I suppose the floodgates of it have meant that the electoral calculation in Canada changes and it's not in favor of the Jews.0.99
00:39:09.560The Jews are roughly what? Half of a percent in Canada. Tiny minority.
00:39:13.280It's a pretty tiny minority, although apparently you run everything. Right.
00:39:16.660So but you've got then but Islamic migration is very large and and the Islamic community in Canada gets bigger every single year and they tend to have larger families and and that's fine.0.99
00:39:30.660I've got no beef with it. I don't really care about people's religion, but it's obviously having an effect now on our domestic democratic politics and politicians look at it and like.1.00
00:39:41.660We can go back to our first conversation about Atlantic Canada.
00:39:47.620These guys are looking at numbers, and the Jews don't have the numbers.1.00
00:39:54.340And so when it comes to which side are we going to take here,
00:39:57.040parties that tend to rely more on some groups,
00:39:58.920they're going to follow the diaspora politics.
00:40:01.380I honestly like to think, though, because we have a huge Islamic population,
00:40:04.860and we've got to remember, and it's easy to look at,
00:40:07.260yes, it's predominantly Islamic people or people of Islamic heritage,
00:40:10.940protesting on the streets, but that's a tiny minority of the hundreds of thousands, if not
00:40:16.220millions of Muslim individuals who were staying home, who might even again lean a bit in this
00:40:21.060fight, but they're not of the genocidal screaming pro him off. We got to get where are the people
00:40:25.220come out and saying not in my name? Yeah, like Muslims coming onto the streets. And we know1.00
00:40:29.400they're there. I've got neighbors who are and they're disgusted by this. They want nothing to
00:40:33.700do with it. But, you know, this is I had kind of a long Twitter rant on this the other week.
00:40:39.320I saw that. It's time. You know, Muslim, we can't fix this. What was it? Dennis Miller said, like, we look like Johnny Winters in the Wu-Tang Clan. We're not a part of it. We can't do it. But, you know, the Islamic world, the Islamic community, Muslims have to wrestle with this problem. It's a real problem. And I know you're not supposed to say it out loud. God, we're going to get kicked off. CRTC is going to kick us off the cable, but we've got to say it.
00:41:00.720They have to deal with this issue themselves and internally. And, you know, we need to see Muslims on the streets saying, not in my name. You can't kill people. You can't commit atrocities, murder, rape, infanticide in our name.1.00
00:41:15.860and we're not seeing it yet. And I don't know, maybe people are just afraid to do it. I don't
00:41:21.060know. I hope it tilts. I mean, we're seeing some differences in nations that, you know, I mean,
00:41:25.720part of this whole thing, I mean, it's a long discussion, but part of the issue Hamas had was
00:41:30.060the normalization that was starting to happen between Israel and Saudi Arabia. And Saudi
00:41:33.780has long been a haven of pretty extreme views and things. And they've been, they've cut back
00:41:39.120on some things in the normalization process, but they've also been pretty restrained. They're not
00:41:42.400being quite supportive of Hamas and things.
00:41:45.840It's slow, and when it's this horrifying, we wish the change would be faster.0.54
00:41:50.920But I do think that in the Arab world, the Islamic world, we're starting to see some shift,0.99
00:41:55.700except around that hotbed when you get close to there, Jordan, Syria, Egypt, it's still on fire.0.98
00:42:03.460To Derek's point about electoral maths, the government of Canada could afford to be a lot stronger
00:42:09.840in its condemnation of Hamas, because it's not like the conservatives under Polivar are going to
00:42:16.600move in and scoop up that vote. No, but the NDP can. The NDP has been playing hard politics on
00:42:24.020this, saying, calling for ceasefire, and ceasefire is code for, let the hostages die, and let the
00:42:30.700terrorists continue to launch rockets in, just stop over military incursions. And they would lose
00:42:36.600heavily. Because if we are correct that this is a problem within a certain community,
00:42:44.220a noisy community, that is not going to push the NDP over the top.
00:42:49.180The NDP isn't trying to go over the top. The NDP is just trying to be as big as it can be and
00:42:53.040exert influence. And you can ally that diaspora community with the Fred Hans and other extremists1.00
00:43:00.480on the domestic left, for lack of a better term in Canada, unions, academia. There's an appetite for0.55
00:43:05.780it. So, you know, the liberals are very electorally sensitive to this. They could lose that support
00:43:12.340very easily to the NDP. It sure might not go to the conservatives, but it's not a two-party system
00:43:17.560here. It can go completely the other way. At the same time, you know, we're saying they could lose
00:43:24.180to the NDP, but we're also saying that there's a lot of people within the Islamic community who
00:43:29.000are just horrified by this, not in my name. I say that the government of Canada needs to be a lot0.72
00:43:35.420more forthright than this. And there's got to be some liberals who put conscience ahead of
00:43:39.120political expedience. I think there are, but we're not seeing a lot. Okay, we have very little time
00:43:46.500left. So I'm largely going to throw this just to Nigel, but federal government imposed through
00:43:54.100the Department of National Defense that this coming Remembrance Day at ceremonies,
00:44:01.740chaplains are not to make prayers. I'm not really sure what a chaplain's supposed to do
00:44:08.180in the Army, Navy, and Air Force if they're not supposed to pray at Remembrance Day. I thought,
00:44:11.800like, that's the one time a year if you're in the military where you really see the chaplain,
00:44:15.800and even non-religious people are like, well, the guys who died were mostly religious, so yeah,
00:44:20.540there probably shouldn't be a prayer, but they were ordered, I guess, in the name of diversity,
00:44:24.000equity, and inclusion. No prayers, chaplains. And, well, that story was broken by the Western
00:44:30.540standards, Linda Slobodian. We have very little time, but why don't you just tell us what happened?
00:44:35.660Look, Linda got hold of it. She found it. Somebody tipped her off. She started writing about it.
00:44:42.300This story was ignored by the mainstream press. I think it's still been ignored, right?
00:44:46.300It has. We will give some credit to Epoch Times and Rebel News, I think, also picked it up.
00:44:54.060But Linda Slobodian was first and fastest and got this out and kept the steam in it
00:44:59.340and it was her writing that finally embarrassed the government
00:45:04.300of Canada into instructing the Chaplain General0.51