The Western Standard's new editor-in-chief, Nigel Hannaford, and a story about the UCP s new leader, Jason Kenney. Plus, a new Western Standard feature story about TD Bank and Tamara Litch.
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00:04:53.180So, you know, when Jason Kenney was ousted by members of the UCP as leader, a lot of people were expecting that he would just step down either immediately or within a few days to allow an acting or interim leader to take over.
00:05:10.840That's not always what happens, but it's pretty unprecedented that a leader of a party that just formed a majority government three years earlier is ousted by his own members.
00:05:20.480um there was a lot of ruckus over this in fact in fact there were threats of fisticuffs in the
00:05:27.840caucus meeting that was deciding this issue if if kenny should go and be replaced by an acting
00:05:31.960interim leader uh kenny did stay though but he was very clear that he's going to stay out of the
00:05:38.200leadership race uh scouts honor he's staying out of it um last uh sunday saturday saturday was the
00:05:47.880radio show yeah i think yeah yeah well uh kenny kenny's staying out of this so to speak uh ended
00:05:54.640pretty dramatically didn't it dave it did on qr 77 uh lobbed a grenade into the campaign trail by
00:06:01.480saying daniel smith's proposed sovereignty act was was quote unquote nuts uh said it would lead
00:06:07.940canada into a constitutional crisis uh the next day he obviously was well prepared at a press
00:06:13.700conference and went even further, saying it was nuttier than squirrel turd, quote unquote.
00:06:19.820And then he went on a long diatribe about how it wouldn't work and basically saying
00:06:27.080the whole thing's idiotic. Of course, it's Danielle Smith's big, it was her first big
00:06:33.480campaign pledge. I think it's something she's vowed that she would introduce the first day
00:06:37.320in office. Kenny says, no, it wasn't interfering. He was just repeating what he had said last
00:11:06.820If anything, it's entrenching them against him.
00:11:08.400So Dave, we've seen races before where the person running to become the leader runs against the record or the person of the outgoing leader.
00:11:20.260You know, Jim Prentice may have been on a policy level, virtually a carbon copy of Alison Redford, but he ran against Alison Redford nonetheless.
00:11:29.560You know, Paul Martin ran against Jean Chrétien.
00:11:45.140Do you think, you know, Kenny does still have a number of loyalists in the party outside of just those in his personal paid employee in the premier's office.
00:11:56.700Do you think this is actually going to hurt, Smith?
00:11:59.900And unlike Corey, I think it will actually help her.
00:12:01.820And, you know, as we've discussed before, Travis Taves, member of the Sky Palace community, fraternity, I guess, fraternity might be the better word.
00:12:12.980So he's got that hanging around his neck.
00:12:14.500All the other people that are running were caucus or cabinet ministers, and they're now running to fix the stuff that they screwed up well in power.
00:12:25.000You know, Travis Taves, I'll fix health care.
00:12:27.460You were in control of all the spending.
00:12:28.900He didn't fix it in the last three years.
00:12:31.820And now Danielle Smith has, you know, she's now the established anti-establishment candidate because Kenny's gone for her, gone for her personally, hasn't gone for any of the other candidates at all.
00:12:44.940So, yeah, I think it can only help her.
00:12:51.080You know, if there's a few continuums or polls in this race, you know, nutritional left, right, you're, you know, you're red blues.
00:12:58.660You have a federalist to full on independence. And then there's Kenny and anti-Kenny. And, you know, a lot of these are Venn diagrams overlapping and who's where is very confusing.
00:13:12.620But the Kenny anti-question, I think, Kenny, you know, the relevancy of that question had been going down through this race.
00:13:19.480It had been actually much more focused on the issues, namely the issue of the Sovereignty Act.
00:13:23.560But Kenny's intervention, I think, now raises the prospect again of Kenny anti-Kenny.
00:13:30.120I think it was in Kenny's interest in terms of his legacy and reputation that the race not be all about beating up on Kenny.
00:13:37.820Because he's the sitting premier, it's a little awkward, I think, to be trashing him the way you could trash Alison Redford because she was replaced by an interim premier.
00:13:46.700But he's now made himself a target again.
00:14:34.900Sure. I think it'll be very effective.
00:14:36.720I mean, the people who are truly anti-Kenny, they want the candidate most likely to knock off his successor, I guess you could say, in a sense.
00:14:44.980And Kenny's established the one that's the biggest threat to Taves right now.
00:14:50.480So those people who have that focus, whether it's, you know, it's not as much a policy focus, but an anti-Kenny focus, an anti-establishment focus, there's the person now.
00:14:58.660Kenny said that's the one who's threatening the establishment.
00:15:02.440I mean, he couldn't have directed him to her better.
00:15:04.140I kind of feel like it's similar to the move that Jim Prentice made in the debate of the 2015 election, where he physically, same guy, he literally physically turned his back to Brian Jean, ignoring him, and went after Rachel Notley.
00:15:18.500And then that was a signal to everyone in Alberta who wanted the old crooked Tories gone, that if you wanted them gone, you had to vote for that lady.0.57
00:15:26.260Because the attack on Rachel Nottingly did not go over very well.
00:15:30.340It was condescending and just kind of nasty.
00:15:35.240But what it did is it kind of depressed the Wild Rose.
00:15:37.520It literally was Brian Jean standing there.
00:15:39.660So this might be the second time that the conservative premier of Alberta
00:15:43.240has very visibly turned his back on Brian Jean to launch an attack on someone else
00:15:47.700and elevated that person as the person to beat himself.
00:15:51.880But smarter people than us, Derek, told us, if the Kenny leadership wasn't so full of skullduggery and changes and whatnot, and it was held that first time it was supposed to be held, he would have been lucky to get 35%.
00:16:04.140So there is a large chunk of the UCP party that just doesn't like Kenny.
00:16:12.380I think something about Brian Jean rubs them possibly the wrong way.
00:16:16.980And, yeah, their support will go to Daniel, I think.
00:16:21.880Okay. We're going to switch gears a bit here. In just the other room, we have a young reporter,
00:16:29.760Jonathan Bradley. He's actually fairly new here, but he's broken some pretty good stories,
00:16:35.940especially one with TD Bank. TD, if you've gone into a TD lately, it's very colorful,
00:16:44.720very colorful place to be. In fact, it's downright maybe a bit gauche. It's over-the-top
00:16:52.480or diversity. You'd be hard-pressed to actually find any information about financial products and
00:16:57.520protecting your money there. It's very political and strange. And they've had a series of
00:17:06.320I guess diversity or I don't know, whatever the hell you call these indoctrination sessions,
00:17:11.200but some kind of diversity seminars and they had some diversity experts i guess in uh and i think
00:17:18.400so we obtained a uh our reporter jonathan bradley obtained a secret recording of one of these
00:17:25.760meetings and we've got the audio of it now let's uh let's play that for you non-indigenous politics
00:17:31.920it's hard for some indigenous peoples but when you're actually looking at the different parties
00:17:36.560what i've noticed and i don't actually like i don't know it's i haven't really voted that much
00:17:42.800i'm starting to try to and learn more about it but from what i know um conservative conservative
00:17:48.640goes against a lot of um what indigenous peoples are trying to do um because they advocate for0.95
00:17:53.760pipelines um they don't want indigenous people to have a voice etc whereas like let's say liberal
00:18:00.080ndp they're a little bit more about it right um probably the green party's huge actually because
00:18:05.520we're also very connected to the land so i would say more of those areas are what to vote for
00:18:11.760versus like conservative because i i've noticed a lot of what their intentions are are kind of
00:18:17.440against um indigenous i guess rights right so um but that's just very minimal um on the surface
00:18:25.600knowledge that i know about politics so um yeah like substantially i'm going to repeat what carol
00:18:35.280said um i i find that conservatives throughout the country um yeah that their priorities are not in
00:18:44.400rect with reconciliation um we saw when doug board was first elected to office in ontario
00:18:50.960to scrap the curriculum they were building to incorporate indigenous history and knowledge
00:18:58.200and scrap that. It had nothing to do with the platform. I have not forgotten that.
00:19:05.460Whereas I see people like Jagmeet Singh who are trying to consult and actually speaking
00:19:14.900with indigenous people what we want what we're looking for in a government and
00:19:22.280we all know all right so that's not the full thing it goes on and on so like
00:19:32.240conservatives are racist because they like pipelines pipelines are racist
00:19:39.480that's uh i think that's a fair summation of the whole thing right ideally yeah yeah uh dave what's
00:19:46.680what's been the reaction to the story what did td have to say about it well td had nothing to
00:19:51.000stay for day one and day two and day three and day four uh we heard lots of social media chatter
00:19:59.400lots of prominent canadians talking about how ridiculous it was and and why why would td
00:20:04.440even do this uh one of our staff members wives was that was at a td bank and there were three0.95
00:20:11.840people in line ahead of her to cancel their accounts because of this uh because of this
00:20:17.520leaked tape uh yeah and jonathan had a source who was in the meeting and thought this is a bit
00:20:24.880wacky i think i'm going to record this and send it to jonathan so it must have been going on for
00:20:29.100a while because yeah for him to be like oh i need to start recording because this is nuts yeah god
00:20:33.740bless uh uh anonymous sources just before i get to td's reaction jonathan also broke in in the next
00:20:40.340day or so another great td story which a conservative mp uh called him and said you
00:20:46.760know i went to the td bank to open up a fund for for the election and put money you know donated
00:20:54.180to the campaign and in the fund and the bank asked him hey well what party do you belong to
00:20:59.240And he thought that was entirely inappropriate and walked out and went to another bank.
00:21:04.820So TD said, no, no, we were entirely mistaken.
00:21:10.820That was just a conversation between two people.
00:21:13.920Well, you know, our source was in the room that was full of staffers and being given this diversity talk by these women.
00:21:21.360So sorry, TD Bank, that just doesn't cut it.
00:21:24.520In terms of the other story, they admitted that, yeah, our reporting was correct, and they've issued an apology to that, the MP in question.
00:21:34.200So, I don't think it would be, it was TD Bank's crisis communication team's best week.
00:21:41.500They should have jumped on it on day one and come out with an explanation, but the bank doesn't look good in this at all.
00:21:47.880uh uh oh geez what the hell do we even say about this uh cory um i i've been with td bank since i
00:21:59.660was above 12 or something 10 or 12 when i opened my my dad took me to the bank you know my family
00:22:05.580been with td since uh since they immigrated to canada we've been with td uh so i'm a third
00:22:11.460generation TD customer. The Western Standard is with TD. I would have already pulled us out of
00:22:19.800it. It wasn't such a pain in the ass to do, but I think we've got to. Unless, TD, you want to
00:22:25.680become the latest sponsor of the Western Standard. Western Standard brought to you by TD Bank.
00:23:56.460They wanted to buy a building for God's sake.
00:23:58.480Wasn't like they wanted, you know, something tiny or building cruise missiles or something.
00:24:03.440So, I mean, if these were loans officers or who knows who they're speaking to with that,
00:24:06.860there could be training staff to essentially say, this is the political sides you want to take.
00:24:11.280And they, you know, maybe decline loans to people who hold the wrong political views.
00:24:15.040I think they certainly didn't say that.
00:24:16.380I wouldn't imply that, but that's what goes into that training.
00:24:19.400Well, you know, if Paul is talking about waging war on some of the, you know, kind of the central banking system
00:24:28.120that the big five chartered banks rely on very intimately.
00:24:32.640I think if the banks are going to decide on the politics of their customers,
00:24:37.240maybe the government should decide on the politics of the bank.
00:24:39.700If the banks are going to be discriminating in politics,
00:24:42.100well, wouldn't it be a shame if the central bank didn't directly lend to TD anymore?
00:24:47.140If TD actually had to rely upon money in its own bank that its customers have put there
00:24:53.240and not be able to rely on printed money from the Bank of Canada.
00:24:58.120They're not endearing themselves to the old system, you know, with people who want to come in and make change, but with statements like that, I mean, it seems that the principle of the bank that should be just basically numbers and, you know, determining loan risk and things like that, it's been corrupted in a sense.
00:25:12.420And I can see people shying away in the future, though, at the least, so it could cost them.
00:25:18.780Okay, now I feel really bad, haven't put my money where my mouth is yet.
00:26:23.940But I did, she was photographed with that insurrectionist MLA Drew Barnes.
00:26:29.460So I don't know if that's a breach of her bail conditions or not.
00:26:33.840She's from Medicine Hat, and Drew represents half Medicine Hat.
00:26:36.620I'm not sure which half she's in, but, you know.
00:26:39.220Yep, so it could have been, he could be her MLA.
00:26:42.460But by all accounts, a great evening was had by all,
00:26:45.660and she was not taken down by a squat team upon leaving.
00:26:49.500Corey, we weren't allowed to film this because the last time there were any cameras at essentially the same dinner but held in Toronto, the police sent a bunch of armed goons with guns all the way from Ottawa to a medicine hat to grab her, detain her, and fly her back to Guantanamo Bay or wherever we're taking these insurrectionists now.
00:27:14.440um you know so what does this say now that uh that we have to have secret political speeches
00:27:22.900because the person giving it could be arrested for doing it it's been so bizarre and unprecedented
00:27:27.660yeah as you said I mean it was a most trivial of potential bail uh violations they sent two
00:27:34.600homicide detectives no less all the way across the country to round her up for people trying to0.96
00:27:39.760pretend that this wasn't politically motivated come on get real I think Dave was just mentioning
00:27:43.720a multiple murderer, alleged, a doctor who killed a number of people, is out on bail right now. And
00:27:49.900they have persecuted. I think it's great, though, that we witnessed. These are packed dinners,
00:27:55.360well attended. She's getting very good attention from people and appreciation. If they hadn't have
00:28:01.420gone after her the way they had at the end of this, if they'd just find her and put her out
00:28:05.040on bail and say, we'll see you in court next January, most of the candidate would have forgotten
00:28:09.440who Tamara Leach is by now. I mean, people watching it closely would know that she was
00:28:12.880involved and things like that but she wouldn't have turned into the symbol that she is guess who0.53
00:28:16.440the cover uh photo is of uh next to the next issue of the new american tamara litch really
00:28:23.660or mike thomas has got a story on it it's up on the website now she's a glowing review of tamara
00:28:29.600litch not so much of a glowing review of uh justin trudeau uh but you know that's you know as cory
00:28:37.200says what the government has done to tamara has made her a folk hero uh it's also worth noting
00:28:42.360the JCCF asked us not to publicize where this event was happening because it had to be an
00:28:47.680undisclosed location. It was an undisclosed location because they didn't want the location
00:28:52.000to be bombarded with anti-Tamera crap. So yeah, we withheld the location and hopefully it's still
00:29:00.800a secret. All right. Well, that's it for today. This is a reminder that if you're not yet a
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00:29:59.080Thank you very much for joining us today, Dave, Corey, and all of you. God bless.