Western Standard - The Pipeline： Truckers closing in on Ottawa

00:00:00.000 Hello, I'm Derek Fildebrandt, publisher of the Western Standard.

00:00:24.000 Today is January 26, 2022, and you're watching The Pipeline.

00:00:28.900 Today I am joined as usual by Western Standard Assistant, Opinion and Broadcast Editor, and host of Triggered, Corey Morgan.

00:00:36.980 How are you doing, Corey?

00:00:37.580 Very good, thanks. It's a long one to get on a business card, isn't it?

00:00:40.680 It is. It is. I don't know, we'll have to come up with a really cool title for you.

00:00:46.160 Yeah, or some sort of weird abbreviation.

00:00:47.840 It's an opinionated guy.

00:00:49.180 Yeah.

00:00:49.980 Angry guy.

00:00:50.620 Angry.

00:00:51.160 Angry guy is just...

00:00:52.300 The picture of me on the card will take care of that.

00:00:53.940 There we go.

00:00:54.380 There we go.

00:00:54.900 So we've also got a special treat.

00:00:57.320 Western Standards news editor Dave Naylor is not with us today.

00:01:02.040 But in his place, we've got the lovely Eva Sudik.

00:01:06.200 Yes. 0.91

00:01:06.620 Sudik.

00:01:07.800 It's a hard Ukraine.

00:01:08.740 I know how to say it, but I almost look at it how it's spelled.

00:01:12.320 And it's just crazy.

00:01:13.420 It's not actually long and crazy. 1.00

00:01:14.760 It's just Ukrainian. 1.00

00:01:15.640 Yeah, it's pretty short.

00:01:16.360 Only eight letters, my full name.

00:01:18.140 Yeah.

00:01:18.560 But your last name has got a W, a Y, a U.

00:01:23.460 Thanks for having me today.

00:01:24.900 Okay. Well, today we're going to be discussing the trucker convoy closing in on Ottawa. We'll

00:01:33.040 be giving you an update on where that's at, but we're also going to talk about the mainstream

00:01:37.260 media coverage of it. You know, if you're watching global, you're watching CTV, you could be forgiven

00:01:43.860 if you believe this had nothing to do with freedom and ending lockdowns and vaccine mandates. 0.92

00:01:49.120 This is actually about white power. This is a white power convoy full of Sikhs from the 0.98

00:01:54.820 Punjab province. Yes, they've been noteworthy for their white supremacy. Sikhs, big white 1.00

00:02:00.700 supremacists. Yeah, you got to watch that. So we're gonna be getting into that. Absolutely 0.99

00:02:07.520 some outrageous coverage. That's not just tilted, outright lies and slander. And of now

00:02:13.680 conservative, federal conservative leader, Aaron O'Toole, his leadership, back under fire,

00:02:19.320 constituency associations gunning

00:02:21.320 for a vote on his leadership

00:02:22.960 and one of his Alberta

00:02:25.080 MPs, Arnold Veersen, breaking ranks

00:02:27.200 with Aaron O'Toole in supporting

00:02:29.060 the leader's

00:02:31.200 cockamamie carbon tax

00:02:33.160 plan. So, not all well

00:02:35.020 in Aaron O'Toole land.

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00:04:01.560 All right, well, the big trucker convoy moving from west to east. I passed through where we're

00:04:08.740 at Calgary just a few days ago yesterday in Winnipeg. Eva, tell us where are they at now

00:04:15.240 and what's going on with the convoy? I know that they have gone into Northern Ontario. I'm not

00:04:22.400 sure they're their exact whereabouts, but they passed through Winnipeg. They weren't even able

00:04:27.620 to stop in Winnipeg because there were so many people and they were going on different routes.

00:04:32.160 It kind of got lost, but there were huge, huge gatherings along all of the highways in Manitoba, greeting them.

00:04:42.080 Okay, and do we know when they're expected to arrive in Ottawa?

00:04:46.080 On Sunday.

00:04:47.740 It has slowed down due to the icy highways, so they're being very cautious, but they are expected on Sunday in Ottawa, and the big protest is on Monday.

00:04:57.840 so i know um like anyone who's ever driven that route through northern ontario like the the true

00:05:04.740 trans canada highway route knows that that's not the route the truckers actually take most of them

00:05:09.900 actually all go through the states uh a relatively small number actually take the trans canada over

00:05:14.340 the lakehead through northern ontario it's for most of it it's it's one lane on each side it's

00:05:19.280 not it's not meant as a major transportation quarter we only have a road there so we can

00:05:23.240 say that there is a single road across Canada that you can drive, and that is technically true.

00:05:29.160 So, you know, the truckers who are normally used to going through the States and back into Canada,

00:05:32.640 which is now illegal for them to do, which is one reason that's triggering all of this.

00:05:36.920 Hey-oh, triggered.

00:05:38.500 Take those plugs right here.

00:05:39.840 Yeah.

00:05:40.900 They're now going through the north on roads that are really just not meant for this kind of traffic.

00:05:44.980 It even comes up huge roads that are meant for heavy traffic, because this is just so unprecedented.

00:05:50.940 What do we expect to happen at the protest on Monday?

00:05:53.240 um on monday is actually day one it's a big one but then there's five days of speeches from

00:05:59.700 multiple different people supporters five days yep five days of speeches like trucker woodstock

00:06:05.220 at least until parliament can tell give them some kind of answer by the end of it too there's not

00:06:10.260 a lot of showers on parliament hill outside i don't think ottawa's dirty enough so so tell us

00:06:16.220 about what's uh expected to happen in ottawa um they're going to be lots of representatives uh

00:06:22.240 MPs, Conservatives, independent parties. There's going to be a lot of police force that are in

00:06:30.720 support of them. Lots of independent people. People from Canada Unity are going to be speaking,

00:06:37.040 just all kinds of protesters and people who are in support of the cause.

00:06:40.400 Okay. Corey, I know you got into a bit on your show today. We're going to get to the mainstream

00:06:46.160 media coverage of this soon um actually do we have any idea yet of what's a reasonable estimate

00:06:52.640 of how many people and how many trucks are there because there's why why wildly different accounts

00:06:59.840 now most people involved in a protest inflate their numbers so i mean i'm cautious about

00:07:06.960 that i mean not saying they're doing it intentionally but you know everyone thinks

00:07:11.280 that they're bigger and better than they are but then some mainstream media are saying that oh

00:07:15.440 Oh, there's a couple hundred trucks.

00:07:16.940 It's just a couple of nutters.

00:07:18.860 Do we have any reasonable estimates to go with right now?

00:07:21.120 Well, Canada Unity Convoy came out yesterday that there are officially 50,000 trucks.

00:07:27.420 50,000 trucks.

00:07:28.860 Trucks.

00:07:29.960 Alone.

00:07:31.100 Okay.

00:07:32.560 I have a hard time believing that.

00:07:35.440 Because, you know, self-reported numbers are normally inflated.

00:07:38.700 But if so, then this is the biggest convoy since D-Day.

00:07:43.680 If it's even 1,000, it's...

00:07:46.180 1,000's huge.

00:07:46.940 I think somebody was saying that the world record is going to be broken for convoys,

00:07:50.600 and that number was 750.

00:07:52.660 And it's really sounded like that that's going to be...

00:07:54.620 750 trucks was the biggest convoys.

00:07:56.340 It was.

00:07:56.860 Well, that's a lot of trucks.

00:07:57.880 When you think about that, that was a lot.

00:07:59.600 You know, together in one movement, that was a Turkish thing or something.

00:08:02.880 I can't remember where the prior record was from. 1.00

00:08:04.920 It seems very likely that that will be smashed.

00:08:07.960 It should.

00:08:09.060 But 50,000, I'm highly doubtful.

00:08:12.880 i mean that's higher than the number of estimated truck drivers who were even impacted by the ban

00:08:17.920 on them working so we'll see well them coming through calgary from vancouver was 50 kilometers

00:08:24.400 long so i'm not sure how many cars that is but it was quite long already at the calgary well

00:08:30.160 some of them are just the track uh the truck uh the tractor and some were tractor trailer and

00:08:37.360 some were not actually tractor trailers at all they're just vehicles joining the convoy yeah

00:08:41.520 lots of vehicles. It's a mix. I mean, so one

00:08:43.640 tractor-trailer will count, but obviously

00:08:45.520 take up a lot more space than one guy in his pickup.

00:08:47.660 That's something else with this. I mean, this has turned into something

00:08:49.540 so much more than just the truckers

00:08:51.520 count, where there are, I bet there will be

00:08:53.420 as many or maybe more private vehicles

00:08:55.740 that are just joining on because they want

00:08:57.500 to take part in this rally. Like, this is

00:08:59.340 gone beyond that. You see, when

00:09:00.900 right-wingers get angry in

00:09:03.440 protest, it's so much cooler. Because, like, you

00:09:05.480 know, like, so if you've got some, like, PETA

00:09:07.460 guys, they're pouring blood on themselves 0.99

00:09:09.460 and shit and demanding free quinoa like that's kind of boring you know they're holding some 1.00

00:09:14.440 signs when these guys go they got big rigs and there's barbecues and beer imagine if they all 0.99

00:09:19.500 set off those air horns at the same time in ottawa that'll shake some windows uh break the

00:09:23.720 glass might even wake up a couple senators yeah that's a long time i remember uh like when i was

00:09:27.640 in politics and there was i think it was bill six it was the ndp farm bill that farmers and ranchers

00:09:32.840 were pretty damned upset about uh there was big protests in front of the legislature and uh

00:09:39.300 everybody showed up bringing farm animals so there was there was one guy there uh i have a picture

00:09:45.620 of it somewhere and it was a turkey it was a big fat turkey and the turkey had a little sign around

00:09:50.420 his neck that said i support bill six you might have been a captive member but yeah yeah yeah so

00:09:58.840 Well, anyway, these things tend to be a lot more interesting.

00:10:02.060 Okay, well, we're going to be covering it very closely.

00:10:05.200 We're going to try and get Eva to Parliament Hill for it.

00:10:08.380 We're still working out the logistics on that.

00:10:11.700 But, yeah, we're going to make sure if Eva's not there,

00:10:14.160 we're going to have coverage live on Parliament Hill one way or another.

00:10:17.820 Let's talk about what I really want to talk about on this.

00:10:20.720 It's not the convoy itself.

00:10:22.200 It's the mainstream government-funded coverage of the convoy.

00:10:27.780 Corey, you had a rant on this today, and you've written a column.

00:10:31.080 Just before you get into your second rant on this,

00:10:35.660 just paint the picture about how this is being reported to the mainstream media.

00:10:39.980 Certainly, like we talked earlier, one of the big, I guess, half-truths at best that was put out

00:10:44.700 was the myth that the fundraising site for this was frozen.

00:10:48.180 They've been putting it out, multiple media sources, throwing it out there,

00:10:51.480 saying there's problems with the fundraising, the site is frozen.

00:10:54.780 and as ever followed up with directly with the organizer tamara lich and i talked with tamara

00:11:00.900 lister texts and so on no it's not frozen what they've done is taken a portion out of the terms

00:11:05.720 and conditions of fundraiser where you're supposed to provide them though with a just letting them

00:11:10.280 know where you're going to disperse it and how well with the plans are when we're talking now

00:11:13.160 5.3 million dollars they're being thorough with it but there is no problems in fact tamara told

00:11:19.240 us that they were the eighth highest or fastest fundraising effort they've ever had on that site

00:11:23.580 Like this is massive. So yes, they're not just going to give them a few suitcases of money and

00:11:28.720 let them walk down the street. There's some, but there was not frozen. Like the way they were

00:11:32.660 framing it. This is frozen. Like their assets are frozen because they've done something bad.

00:11:36.820 Like that something got wrong. And absolutely nothing is wrong. Nothing is frozen. There's

00:11:41.440 just processes to go through. They haven't walked it back because at best it is a half truth. I

00:11:45.820 mean, she can't walk up and draw from it yet, but it's going to be coming up and it's still taking

00:11:49.620 in funds. If this was a problem, GoFundMe is going to cover their butt. They're going to say, 0.98

00:11:53.440 whoa whoa we're shutting her down we're not taking anybody else's money until we sort this out no

00:11:57.040 they've been fundraising all the way through and the media has just gleefully been reporting it

00:12:02.220 and again it comes to people why why i mean this is not news why it's not real news what's your

00:12:07.000 agenda it discredits themselves so they've been they're completely wrong it's not frozen

00:12:11.620 whatsoever anyone you can go on and donate right now you can and they are yeah um you know but

00:12:18.500 media can make errors. When you make an error, you pass up to it. You sometimes apologize. You

00:12:23.240 always correct. Has there been any corrections or apologies that we know of? No. I haven't seen one

00:12:27.320 yet. Because again, I think at best they're playing the semantics that, well, it's not

00:12:31.000 released, but I mean, it's, it's, it's sad and it's failing. I think personally, again,

00:12:36.340 if somebody has an agenda, the goal was to make it sound like this is incredible. Don't give money

00:12:40.140 to it. And they started that myth back when it was $3 million, when I was $5.3 million. So it

00:12:45.660 failed. It didn't work. That gets on to where the media went next. So it's not just on the GoFundMe

00:12:52.460 page and fundraising around this. It's on what the convoy is itself. Tell us why this convoy

00:12:59.980 against mandatory vaccinations and lockdowns is actually all about white supremacy.

00:13:06.060 Yeah, that was brutal. And it was a, there was a number, I mean, we've seen some individual

00:13:09.720 tweeters or people like Gerald Butz, you know, you expect that from that hammerhead.

00:13:13.680 But Global put out, I mean, they were the worst of the month, a hit piece.

00:13:17.240 It was even worse than the CBCs.

00:13:18.520 Oh, it was terrible.

00:13:19.680 And you looked at it, and it was basically framing it as if extremists and white supremacists were rubbing their hands together

00:13:27.080 and wanted to turn this into the next January 6th riots, as happened in the States.

00:13:32.380 And what they had done, I mean, you know, weak news is clipping out pieces from Facebook posts and things.

00:13:37.680 They didn't even put the names with the Facebook posts they had clipped out.

00:13:41.220 uh and it wasn't even from the main site they said some group of 35 000 the facebook one by

00:13:46.180 the way has over 600 000 people so some side group and some guys saying some extreme things

00:13:51.420 like oh we want to you know we want to take it over in as a coup and as crazy as that was it

00:13:56.500 still wasn't mentioning any white power stuff it was just kooky crazy talk but it wasn't even about

00:14:01.520 that there was none of that they got a quote from some guy who's made a career out of anti-hate

00:14:05.760 tracking or something he's one of those ones yeah so they actually didn't even name the hateful

00:14:09.980 people making comments here it's just some guy on facebook said just absurdity and surely there are

00:14:15.740 no fake social media accounts out there oh and then they took some quotes from some other side

00:14:20.100 i don't even remember the name of a different communication social media thing there was

00:14:24.620 nothing it was a nothing burger you could have written it up there's no way to source it even

00:14:27.560 actually to prove that these were even said on facebook and they made a whole piece out of it

00:14:31.860 to make this sound like this whole collection was a potentially violent group of extremists

00:14:37.020 white supremacists uh radicals and again why why did you do this you guys what is your role as a

00:14:43.640 media outlet i mean i understand a bit of slant or picking certain stories but this was a hit piece

00:14:48.420 and it was terribly done and it failed again it failed that's the thing this is picking up steam

00:14:53.480 if anything i think it's galvanizing people people are seeing through that crap now yeah i mean it's 0.99

00:14:57.780 great for us at the standard you know what keep reporting your crap guys because we get more 0.98

00:15:01.240 subscribers every time when they look at the mainstream media the legacy media and realize 0.99

00:15:05.060 just how sick that institution has gotten.

00:15:08.920 It's especially sad because the Freedom Convoy came out

00:15:11.860 with their statements to the press yesterday,

00:15:14.000 and it's all about dismantling the hate and hate speech and censorship.

00:15:19.600 That's half of what the convoy is about.

00:15:23.220 Well, Eva, you've been talking to the organizers.

00:15:25.160 You've been pretty deep into this.

00:15:26.820 It's kind of become your beat since it started here.

00:15:29.440 In your conversations, have any of them ever gotten into

00:15:33.340 how this is actually a secret plan

00:15:35.780 for Aryan nations or something?

00:15:37.720 Absolutely not.

00:15:38.620 No, it's all about having our freedoms

00:15:41.580 and our constitutional rights back.

00:15:44.000 Yeah.

00:15:44.380 That sounds extreme.

00:15:45.140 Now, one thing I did,

00:15:46.460 I haven't checked this out.

00:15:47.820 I have to admit,

00:15:49.080 I'm relying on mainstream media reports here,

00:15:51.060 but I think it was Gurney,

00:15:55.080 he's a guy with the National Post,

00:15:56.960 and he was saying on Twitter

00:15:57.740 that the group has issued

00:16:00.320 some sort of list of demands

00:16:02.960 and some sort of pseudo-legalese.

00:16:05.740 And from what he described, it sounded pretty wacky.

00:16:08.460 Like, they're expecting the governor general and the senate

00:16:11.100 to, like, take some interim government and start issuing orders.

00:16:16.880 Did you see any of that stuff?

00:16:19.100 Well, they do have a list of demands.

00:16:21.360 It's a protest.

00:16:22.640 Is it involving the senate and the governor general?

00:16:25.720 Yes, for them to sign off on just getting rid of the mandates.

00:16:29.620 So they don't know that neither have any power whatsoever in any of this, like, at all.

00:16:37.160 They have as much power as the Brookstown Council.

00:16:40.920 Like, the Governor General and the Senate have zero to do with any of it.

00:16:45.980 I think it's on the influence of what they have.

00:16:48.380 They have no influence.

00:16:50.200 But it's, yeah, and that's happening.

00:16:51.760 They have as much influence on this as the Brookstown Council.

00:16:53.460 There's some naivety coming out of the group, and that's what I guess I can put.

00:16:57.960 The group's grown far beyond that.

00:16:59.360 And they've got this, yeah, a poor interpretation of what they think can happen, but they're making their goal anyways, in that they're going to clog up Ottawa like nobody's ever seen. We're seeing a demonstration like we've never seen in our lifetimes. I mean, this is singular. This is unusual.

00:17:13.540 I think the goals of what they're trying to achieve, they're bang on. But I think they're lacking, like in their formal demands, they're lacking someone in the room with an understanding of constitutional law and how the government works.

00:17:26.840 This is truly grassroots, and that's what's great about it. There's no central leadership. So I think one of the leading groups within the groups has got that. But again, it's just naive. It's not dangerous or extreme.

00:17:39.260 It's not dangerous unless they somehow think that the governor general and the Senate can do something and they try to force it to do so.

00:17:45.860 That was on their memorandum of understanding that they were asking for the governor general signature, but not on their list of demands.

00:17:53.700 Yeah, so I don't, if the Governor General signed a political document, the Governor General would be fired by the Queen.

00:18:02.000 Clearly, actually, it would be unconstitutional for the Governor General to do so. 0.97

00:18:05.860 But, I mean, to be fair, Chief Theresa Spence, when she had her fake hunger strike in Ottawa, was demanding an audience directly with the Queen and felt that she could override trees. 0.58

00:18:13.660 Yeah, yeah, and the media gave her a pass.

00:18:15.640 Basically didn't touch her on that one either. 1.00

00:18:17.580 Yeah, the hunger strike where she got fatter.

00:18:19.560 Yes, it was amazing.

00:18:20.760 Yeah, it was great.

00:18:21.600 That was the most fattening water I've ever seen in my life.

00:18:23.760 Yeah.

00:18:24.220 Yes. 0.97

00:18:24.720 Chief Chins. 0.87

00:18:28.680 Okay. 0.98

00:18:30.100 Well, I want to Corey's column.

00:18:34.320 Yeah.

00:18:35.080 So, yeah, I think some of the way they're formulating their demands of the

00:18:38.060 Governor General in the Senate is batshit crazy.

00:18:40.780 Like, there's no understanding of it there. 0.76

00:18:42.980 And they shouldn't be given a pass for that, I think, because that is not

00:18:46.300 understanding how things can happen.

00:18:47.560 but I mean the media gave absolute passes to uh oh like the Wet'suwet'en chiefs they demand to

00:18:54.220 speak with and they're not actually chiefs they're just hereditary guys who claim to be chiefs they

00:18:58.480 have no legitimacy and they claim to want to speak to the sovereign of uh Canada which would

00:19:04.040 be the queen of England and these things do add no legitimate concerns like I'm loving how this

00:19:08.520 is just so organic and I mean we got groups of truckers that's how it's so hard to get a count

00:19:11.740 because we see videos of some leaving Newfoundland and some in North Carolina and some from different

00:19:16.420 parts of Ontario and some are catching up with the convoy, but it's not tightly organized. And

00:19:21.500 that leaves me thrilled because it's an organic movement that's building up, but also nervous

00:19:26.220 because things can go off the rails. If things start to get stupid in Ottawa, who gets the 0.99

00:19:31.660 bullhorn and takes charge? Well, that's the thing. If when you have a decentralized movement like 1.00

00:19:36.420 this, it's more genuine, it's grassroots, it's bottom up, but it's then real easy for one guy, 1.00

00:19:42.380 one jackass that holds up some stupid sign 1.00

00:19:44.380 to make everyone else look bad. 1.00

00:19:46.040 That's the downside of it.

00:19:47.460 It's difficult.

00:19:48.620 So, I mean, again, I don't know.

00:19:50.280 I mean, as a person who loves a bit of anarchy,

00:19:51.960 I'm just still watching this whole thing thrilled,

00:19:54.360 you know, to see what's going to happen.

00:19:55.580 I don't want to see people harmed.

00:19:56.520 I don't want to see Parliament torn down.

00:19:58.100 We're going to see an event like we've never seen before.

00:20:00.380 And I'm hoping it's a good expression of discontent,

00:20:03.900 you know, peacefully.

00:20:05.060 I mean, it can be loudly,

00:20:05.940 and I'm sure to a degree tastelessly,

00:20:07.820 and that's okay.

00:20:08.420 I thrive on tastelessness.

00:20:09.620 Surely you've never been tasteless, Corey.

00:20:11.940 But, you know, they're making a point and it's got the establishment nervous, the establishment media, the establishment politicians.

00:20:18.480 This movement has them scared. We're not talking physical fear of them coming in, dragging them out or anything, fear of their perch being challenged.

00:20:24.980 And I like it. Yeah. Well, surround Parliament Hill and make them squeal.

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00:21:31.900 of changing hearts and minds because what are the politicians going to do they're going to follow

00:21:35.560 where the voters are at and uh i think far too many canadians right now really you know because

00:21:41.420 majority of canadians don't own firearms uh my goal is to make sure that those who don't do

00:21:47.100 legally though yes but um a lot of most canadians don't own firearms and they're there trying to

00:21:53.180 help educate the non-firearms owners um on what is reasonable gun legislation uh and hopefully

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00:22:11.220 Canadian Shooting Sports Association. Speaking of guy taking some shots right now Aaron O'Toole's

00:22:19.520 leadership is under fire again constituency association in Alberta foothills just south

00:22:26.640 of where we're at right now actually demanding a vote on Aaron O'Toole's leadership a leadership

00:22:32.100 review have to have that promptly so that it's not right before the next election you know

00:22:37.340 conservatives can't realistically vote out the leader if it looks like they're going to an

00:22:40.520 election and uh in a month after that uh but also uh one of his uh mps speaking out today on what

00:22:48.380 against one of erin o'toole's uh marquee policies tell us about it so arnold vierson says like he

00:22:55.120 opposes any carbon tax whether it's the liberals or the conservatives making it so he's saying

00:23:01.520 any expense that makes life more expensive for Albertans he's against so did he specifically

00:23:09.480 take aim at O'Toole's carbon tax yes okay so I'm glad he's doing this it would have been nice if

00:23:17.840 he did it before the election you know when Canadians literally had no out of the big

00:23:24.220 mainstream parties there was literally no party on the ballot that opposed the carbon tax

00:23:29.100 Canadians just had choices between the big liberal carbon tax,

00:23:34.560 the bigger green and NDP carbon tax,

00:23:37.500 and the bizarre, twisted, sick freak of a carbon tax proposed by Aaron O'Toole,

00:23:45.200 which was somehow even worse than Justin Trudeau.

00:23:48.520 And that takes a lot of effort.

00:23:50.100 To design a worse carbon tax than Justin Trudeau, you've got to try hard to do that.

00:23:54.860 Corey, do you think Arnold Vearson speaking out here is going to move the needle at all in the party?

00:24:01.380 Perhaps. I mean, you know, when we start to see independent members of parliament losing the fear, you know, of speaking out against the leader, they realize he's too weak to keep kicking people out of caucus. He can't do that.

00:24:12.840 So it also tells me he's fearing for his job or he's gunning for a job.

00:24:18.080 But I mean, it's a crack in the caucus.

00:24:20.660 It's a dangerous trend that's starting when they're starting to come out.

00:24:24.260 We're seeing a bit of that, too, with MPs.

00:24:25.500 We're supporting the trucker's convoy, whereas O'Toole hasn't come out against it.

00:24:30.600 He's just been mushy nothing on it.

00:24:32.420 But I'm sure that's a default O'Toole.

00:24:34.220 Yeah. So I'm sure he'd rather the MPs all just shut up on it as well.

00:24:37.920 But a number of them are saying, no, we're going to talk about this.

00:24:40.540 And we are supportive.

00:24:41.380 I have noticed that. So there's been some MPs, especially around Alberta, but across the country

00:24:46.160 as well, who have been quite explicit in their support of the convoy. And I'd read that potentially

00:24:53.540 as a, it's a kind of an indirect challenge, like Arno Vir said on the carbon tax. It's an indirect

00:24:58.480 challenge, the authority of the leader, kind of poking him in the eye saying, what are you going

00:25:03.620 to do about it? Carbon tax. What are you going to do about it? Convoy. Because it makes the leader

00:25:07.880 look weak he's the very he's not condemning the mp for doing anything but he's not also supporting

00:25:14.420 the convoy he's not also in support of getting rid of his own carbon tax policy i think these

00:25:19.800 are just kind of the shots across the bow but i think it's still very far away from anything like

00:25:25.240 jason kenny's facing where he's got very significant numbers of his own caucus saying

00:25:30.000 this guy needs to resign immediately no but kenny got to this point after started kind of with some

00:25:34.640 individual caucus members starting to speak up. Like that's the beginning of the leak from the

00:25:38.900 dam, I guess you could say. And at first the dissent, you know, you know, from being in a

00:25:42.980 caucus will tend to usually be behind closed doors. You're going to try and rectify your issues

00:25:47.720 within the caucus or with the leader directly if you can, before you start making a ruckus outside.

00:25:54.180 By the time anything gets outside the caucus, I mean, every once in a while you'll have a rogue

00:25:57.640 individual who just isn't a team player. That will happen. But that doesn't look to be the case

00:26:02.520 here i mean like the conservative caucus as it is is pretty pretty tight-lipped on most things so

00:26:07.720 when they start taking these shots when you see a couple coming out like that you know inside it's

00:26:12.100 a lot uglier what i'll be watching for though is is someone like polliver gonna start taking shots

00:26:17.240 like someone with some name recognition well pierre's been very uh vocal on the truckers rally

00:26:22.880 and as did uh andrew sheer so sheer put out one just completely in in support of the the rally

00:26:28.960 all together, and at least

00:26:30.960 Pierre Pauliev didn't say anything

00:26:32.520 quite about the rally, but he retweeted it and said,

00:26:34.700 I absolutely agree, which is the same thing.

00:26:36.400 Yeah, and I know

00:26:38.960 the Shear guys, they're not

00:26:40.820 too big of fans of O'Toole,

00:26:43.160 even though they kind of won doing the same thing,

00:26:45.060 not really saying anything and kind of

00:26:46.920 getting default votes by not taking

00:26:49.080 a position. And they lost doing the same thing.

00:26:50.640 That's part of this weak leadership we're getting from the

00:26:52.940 Conservatives. Shear was pushed

00:26:54.880 around by the dairy cartels and found

00:26:56.800 himself to be weak, and then O'Toole

00:26:58.860 is finding himself to be weak. I mean, if you're going to keep replicating liberal leaders,

00:27:01.940 they're just going to vote for Trudeau. Yeah. Well, good to see Andrew Scheer has returned

00:27:06.540 to being a conservative. Yes, he found himself. Well, although I'm sure he still worships the

00:27:11.360 dairy gods. I'll spare you the name I used to call him. You'll tell me when we're off the air.

00:27:18.020 Well, that's it for today. We're going to wrap up. Again, thank you to all of our Western Standard

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00:27:59.140 Corey,

00:28:00.180 Eva, wonderful day of you.

00:28:01.900 Thank you for joining us. And thank all of you

00:28:03.840 for joining us today. God bless.

00:28:25.700 Amen.

Western Standard - January 27, 2022

The Pipeline： Truckers closing in on Ottawa

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