00:08:05.620But we have such a supply issue to begin with.
00:08:08.320You know, I don't know where you get your groceries, but I know there's a lot of spots in our grocery stores that are sitting empty right now.
00:08:15.880So to do anything that's going to affect our, you know, our supplies and getting food into grocery stores for people, I just don't think it's a wise choice.
00:08:28.040And I, yeah, it's not really all that logical to me.
00:08:32.040I mean, vaccines, the evidence, now that we've had them for long enough, seems to indicate that they mitigate the severity of COVID.
00:08:44.280You know, you're less likely to be hospitalized.
00:08:47.780But it seems to make zero difference whatsoever for transmission at this level, at least with Delta and Omicron variants.
00:08:55.500It's utterly ineffective in dealing with that.
00:08:58.700So the excuse that you have to be vaccinated for transmission, well, that obviously has zero to do with it because vaccination has nothing to do with transmission anymore.
00:09:07.700It's been decoupled, to use the language of public health officials.
00:09:13.340But it's also now that we're dealing with people who, by the definition of their job, work alone.0.57
00:09:19.080I mean, they might stop and pump up gas and they would stop at a diner, except they're not allowed to go to diners if they're unvaccinated anyway.0.51
00:09:26.260So maybe they go hop and walk through a drive-thru.0.69
00:09:29.200I don't know if it's bring an 18-wheeler through a drive-thru at McDonald's.
00:18:29.500I mean, this stuff is a conspiracy theory Monday.
00:18:32.020And it's official government policy on Tuesday. Now, I don't think they're going to start just
00:18:38.100jailing people because there literally isn't enough prison room on the planet to fit 10%
00:18:43.380of the Canadian population in. So I don't think that'll happen. Although every time I don't think
00:18:49.140they're going to go somewhere, they end up going there. But what's the crime though? I mean,
00:18:53.700that's sort of what I asked the lawyer too. What's the crime? There has to be a crime that's been
00:18:59.860committed. And I don't know that you can justify that. Well, if Quebec goes forward with their
00:19:04.640mandatory vaccination program, which is a fine, the tax tax, they actually will be jailing people
00:19:11.380because this is how it works. You know what happens if you don't pay your taxes? If you go
00:19:14.700to jail, you will go to jail. If you don't pay your taxes, feel free to try this at home, but
00:19:19.720do not mistake this for legal or tax advice. Bad idea. But try this at home. Don't pay your taxes
00:19:27.160for 2021. We're coming up with tax time here. Don't pay your taxes. You know what's going to happen.
00:19:31.340The next thing that happens is the government's going to send you a notice, and then they'll
00:19:33.640probably send you another one. And then a really, really serious one that's very scary. And if you
00:19:38.700take it and you just tear up your paper, eventually a warrant will be issued for your arrest for tax
00:19:44.500evasion, and they will send police to your home. They'll take you to the station. And if you refuse
00:19:49.560to abide by bail conditions, you will be put in prison. That's what happens ultimately if you
00:19:55.460don't pay your taxes. Vax tax is a tax. If you refuse to pay the Vax tax, you will go to jail.
00:20:02.780You will go to jail for being unvaccinated already in Canada. Now, it's not just sending,
00:20:08.460you know, soldiers with guns to round up 10% of the population. They're not talking about that
00:20:13.060yet. But if 10% of them, if we had a Vax tax across all of Canada, and all of those people0.82
00:20:18.400refuse to pay it. You would jail 10% of Canada. Scary times. Yeah. You're speechless. No, I'm
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00:22:11.860and support them too all right uh ronald mcdonald fun uh goofy guy i always like ron mcdonald actually
00:22:20.500i didn't like ron mcdonald as a kid i was always a i was i don't like clowns i still don't like
00:22:25.440clowns but you know grimace he doesn't really scare me anymore but um i remember once i was
00:22:30.420a little kid with my parents at mcdonald's and there was a guy dressed these actually have ron0.72
00:22:35.940mcdonald at mcdonald's they did i know yeah and all i remember is i i was scared i hid under the
00:22:40.900table and i just remember his giant goofy red shoes coming under the table ominously
00:22:45.420so i actually have bad memories of ronald mcdonald it was kind of creepy yeah it was scary i still
00:22:52.200remember it um so ronald mcdonald house in bc uh you know they're a fantastic charity doing great
00:22:58.540work for for families in need here uh but booting a child uh was this was melanie who wrote the
00:23:05.720story it was okay so we're gonna go to melanie uh melanie tell us about the story of the family
00:23:10.360being booted from roland mcdonald house in bc well uh it was a family of four uh their four
00:23:15.640year old son jack was being uh treated at the bc children's hospital for leukemia uh and he had um
00:23:23.560He had been diagnosed in October. So the family moved in in October and they had been staying there. The father, Austin, had been commuting back and forth. He'd been commuting from Kelowna to finish some education that he was finishing up.
00:23:41.820he's a red seal electrician. Anyway, he joined his family in January and was going to be staying
00:23:48.220there permanently while Jack was being treated. And they were anticipating it was going to be
00:23:53.480until about June. But then Ronald McDonald House in that particular location, their board of
00:24:00.580directors decided to update their vaccine policy. And so anyone who comes into the home, stays in
00:24:07.420home guests visitors staff all needed to be uh vaccinated fully vaccinated and um if they were
00:24:14.860not they had until the end of january to to move out uh so this family had sort of banked on the
00:24:21.340idea that they were going to be staying in this home um two very small children so jack and his
00:24:27.660smaller brother a two-year-old brother uh so very stressful for this family um what happened was the
00:24:34.380The father confronted the administration at the house and, you know, basically said, this is insane.
00:24:43.860This policy doesn't make sense. This is discriminatory.
00:24:47.100But Ronald McDonald House has not changed their position on their policy.
00:24:51.860And I mean, you know, we're talking about a place where immunocompromised children are.
00:24:56.280So, you know, it's been a very polarizing topic because, of course, there are people who say, yes, of course, you know, this makes sense.
00:25:03.140um these these children are immunocompromised we need to make sure that we are creating
00:25:08.600a safe environment for them but on the other side you know we're just talking about how
00:25:13.380everyone can catch carry and spread uh covet 19 yeah the vaccine only deals with the severity
00:25:19.280if you get it has nothing to do with you're going to get it or not with transmission exactly so so
00:25:23.680this is sort of the argument that's being brought forward by by this family is that these this
00:25:29.420mandate is really not an effective tool to protect immunocompromised children. And what it's doing
00:25:37.980is it's penalizing families, including this one. So the good news is they were placed at the Easter
00:25:45.580Seals house, which is just down the road from Ronald McDonald House. But it has created this
00:25:50.380storm of, again, polarized attention for this family, people praising them. In fact, there was
00:25:56.680a GoFundMe page started for this family early on, way before this. It was started by a friend of
00:26:02.060theirs to help them recoup some of the expenses of traveling back and forth. And both of these
00:26:08.020parents are likely not going to be working for a chunk of time. So in the first couple of months
00:26:13.880of this GoFundMe page, I think they had raised about $3,000. Well, once this story broke and
00:26:19.700went viral, support just started coming in for the family. So last time I checked, it was over
00:26:27.480$173,000 in support for this family. They were featured on Fox News. And I know that there are
00:26:36.520other, you know, a podcaster and a radio host featured them in the US. So it's really spread.
00:26:45.880and in fact, there was even a news story of it out of the UK. So this story has been,
00:26:52.120has kind of circled the world. It's been huge. And I think it's really, you know,
00:26:59.000speaking with the family, I had an update with them yesterday. It's really exposed the,
00:27:06.360I think the humanity behind what these mandates are doing to some people and how it's negatively
00:27:12.600affecting people and so can i play corey can i have an opinion on this one yes you don't want
00:27:18.040to have at her all right look this is basically a hospital we're talking about this is a house
00:27:24.920filled with critically injured critically ill children very young children jack is four other
00:27:32.040children um why would you take any chance of perhaps exposing them to a virus that could kill
00:27:40.840them in their weakened immune system which i'm sure a lot of these a lot of these these children
00:27:46.280have so i mean i i think ronald mcdonald houses do great work they do great work all over the country
00:27:51.880uh fabulous work here in calgary that i've done stories on in the past but surely you can't risk
00:27:58.840the health of everybody for the for the health of one uh and i you know i i mel is right it is very
00:28:07.720very polarizing and i feel nothing but sympathy for this family but you've got to realize there
00:28:13.640may be 10 other kids in there who the vaccine has nothing to do with transmission anymore
00:28:19.240well no not since delta and omicron it's been completely decoupled like the the transmission
00:28:24.680rate between the vaccinated partially vaccinated and the unvaccinated is equal but but keep in
00:28:30.200mind all the parents that are in this house too with their various kids they're basically they
00:28:35.320they just go from there to the hospital hospital to there uh so they're in i won't i won't call
00:28:40.840it a completely sterile environment but they're in a hospital-like sterile environment yeah but
00:28:47.720there's no difference in transmission if they're vaccinated or not it's no but if uh uncle joe
00:28:52.840comes in and uh and he has with them what i just did why the risk why the risk when you're dealing
00:28:59.000But if Uncle Joe was vaccinated, he is just as likely to be carrying COVID as Uncle Bob, who is unvaccinated at this point.
00:29:10.540Now, just Uncle Bob is more likely to be hospitalized by a vet.
00:29:16.060Like, he's more likely to have a severe outcome.
00:29:17.840But that has nothing to do with anyone else's health there.
00:29:20.660What matters is, do they have COVID or not?
00:29:24.720Because there is just no statistical difference between them now on transmission.
00:29:29.000Sure. Those those statistics that you're talking about, I think they're fairly recent, probably less than a month that we started seeing that the gap.
00:29:39.440Well, really, really since Omicron. Yeah. Well, it actually started during Delta, but it was still decoupled a bit.
00:29:45.120It just closed. But as a society, we have not made that step yet.
00:29:52.600Our medical health officials have not said, OK, everybody's carrying it now.
00:29:56.200might as well mix together right no but they've been wrong at every damn sure sure absolutely
00:30:01.560i'm not arguing that i'm just saying the ronald mcdonald people are playing the cards that they've
00:30:05.960been dealt with now right they made their the board made their decision when it was clear that
00:30:11.240hey if if you were infected you spread it and the uh the vaccine was supposed to keep you
00:30:17.720safe we know that's not true now so like i said they're just playing the hand they were dealt
00:30:21.880with and it's just very difficult situation when you've got young and potentially dying children
00:30:27.080involved and you're right i think that's what's making it so polarizing because again the family
00:30:32.360sort of used that as their as their argument is you know anyone could be bringing this into the
00:30:37.800house um not just us unvaccinated so um very polarizing they have seen massive amounts of
00:30:46.200support but i i can i can imagine it would be very difficult because not only are you being praised by
00:30:51.880you know one side but you are being they were so vilified so vilified from from the other side of
00:30:58.100the coin right so i can i can understand the stress they've been involved in with all of this
00:31:04.080and with the spread of this going everywhere but the good news is they are moving to a house where
00:31:08.500this is not a mandate and uh they will be just as close to the hospital and jack will continue to
00:31:15.320have good care from the bc children's well let's move on to something where everybody can agree
00:31:20.220the government is wrong. Alberta Minister of Justice and
00:38:51.720And that might give Kenny the wiggle room, because every time he's had ministerial resignations, he always drags his feet on this.
00:38:58.320He dragged his feet on Tracy Allard after, you know, the Snowbird travel scandal to Hawaii and things like that.
00:39:04.360He dragged his feet on Tyler Shandro, who was clearly a cluster mutt when it came to his competency around managing COVID, managing the healthcare system, not to mention just a total authoritarian who became a political liability for the government.
00:39:20.800He ended up being forced, kicking and screaming to fire these guys when it was pretty clear to everybody else, looking at this clearly, that these ministers are going to go one way or another.0.98
00:39:30.720Is this the problem? He can't fire the minister because he would have to do a complete reshuffling of his cabinet because only a lawyer can have that job?
00:39:39.420Not legal. That's not technically true, but it is effectively true.
00:39:44.460It's become a constitutional convention that the top lawyer of the province should probably be a lawyer.
00:39:51.760I think the NDP, when they formed government, they had only two lawyers.
00:39:54.600One of them was Rachel Notley that guaranteed Kathleen Ganley that job.
00:39:59.500And it meant that she could not lose it unless Rachel Notley took over as attorney general.
00:40:03.840So it's not technically true, but it's effectively true.
00:40:07.600So, I mean, he cannot appoint one of the other lawyers because they're all in sort of key portfolios and whatnot.
00:40:15.980But it requires a whole shuffling of the deck.
00:40:18.180One of the lawyers in the UCP caucus is Jason Stephan, an outspoken critic of Jason Kenney's leadership, lockdowns and vaccine, mandatory vaccination.
00:40:27.100So I don't think he's going to be getting the job anytime soon.