Western Standard Opinion Editor Nigel Henniford and Senior Alberta Columnist Corey Morgan join host Derek Fildebrandt to talk about a court order that requires Jordan Peterson undergoes sensitivity training, a new law banning third parties from participating in sex ed in schools in Saskatchewan, and more.
00:00:00.000Hello and good day. I'm Derek Fildebrandt, publisher of the Western Standard, and you're
00:00:16.300watching The Pipeline. Today is August 23rd, 2023. I'm joined, as always, by Western Standard
00:00:23.220opinion editor Nigel Henniford, fresh off of his interview with Alberta Premier Daniel
00:00:27.360Smith just minutes ago. The Premier says hello. Oh, well, top of the morning to her too. And joined0.89
00:00:33.420as usual as well by Western Centered Senior Alberta Columnist Corey Morgan, who just came out of,
00:00:39.660I don't know, chatting with colleagues in the newsroom. Yeah, it's pretty much just sitting
00:00:43.180around gossiping. They're not nearly as interesting, I'm sure. No. No. Do they say hello as well?
00:00:48.500They do. Yeah. When prompted. Good. We're also going to be joined later in the show by Western
00:00:53.940Standard Saskatchewan Bureau Chief Chris Oldcorn and by Western Standard Business and Energy
00:01:00.080Reporter Sean Polzer. We're going to be talking today about this is a funny one. A Ontario court
00:01:09.200has ordered that Jordan Peterson undergoes sensitivity training because he said he made
00:01:15.140some mean tweets about Justin Trudeau. Yeah, this is a real thing. The, I think it's called
00:01:24.060something along the lines of the Ontario College of Psychologists or whatnot, disciplining him,
00:01:29.960trying to slap him for mean tweets about Justin Trudeau and how that could traumatize
00:01:35.280his patients, even though he doesn't have any patients at the moment. And they couldn't cite
00:01:40.240a single patient complaint against him. Apparently, this traumatizes him. He said, to hell with you.
00:01:45.820He goes to court, and the court has agreed Jordan Peterson needs to attend sensitivity training.
00:01:53.740Saskatchewan, significant move there. Some of you will recall the big kerfuffle in New Brunswick.
00:01:58.440The New Brunswick government had the audacity to say that if students under the age of 16
00:02:06.020are going to be called by a different name other than their given name or different pronouns other
00:02:13.420than the pronouns used by their parents. Well, the parents were going to have to sign off on this for
00:02:18.520kids younger than 16. Big kerfuffle there. But Saskatchewan has picked this up. That is now
00:02:24.580going to be policy in Saskatchewan schools. You want to, a school wants to call a kid by a name
00:02:30.500that's not their name or a pronoun that is not aligned with their sex. You're going to have to
00:02:35.180of parental sign-off for that, as well as changes to sex ed, that parents are going to have a bit
00:02:39.580more say over it, and banning third parties like Planned Parenthood from participating in sex ed
00:02:44.320after some pretty raunchy, that's called raunchy, so-called educational aids used in the classroom.
00:02:53.240Well, that's now resulted in Planned Parenthood and third parties being banned from the classroom
00:02:57.260in sex ed. So we're going to talk to our Saskatchewan Bureau Chief, Chris Oldcorn, about that
00:03:01.500soon. Stephen Gilbo, a federal environment minister, gone to China, playing very nice
00:03:09.480with the Chinese. The Chinese can be dealt with when it comes to stopping global warming and the1.00
00:03:14.480like. We're going to talk about his trip to China and contrasting that with his interactions with
00:03:21.280the much more evil and totalitarian regime of the People's Republic of Alberta. So we're going to
00:03:27.660to our our business uh business reporter sean polzer about that as well justin trudeau is very
00:03:34.380angry at facebook he passed a law saying facebook has to give free money to his friends in the legacy
00:03:40.860media and facebook said no we don't because we're just not going to provide news on our platform
00:03:46.380anymore and justin trudeau says facebook you're killing people there are fires going on and
00:03:51.660without facebook people wouldn't know that their house is on fire you're killing people so justin
00:03:56.540Trudeau very angry unfriending Facebook and then of course a little close to home federal news but
00:04:03.500close to home Christia Freeland famously who says famously says she doesn't need to own a car I live
00:04:11.800in downtown Toronto I don't own a car why the rest of you yokels own cars we can be we can reduce our
00:04:17.160common carbon by not owning cars well she was driving one very recently not sure it was rented
00:04:22.100your friends or whatnot, but she was driving a car and apparently doing her best impression
00:04:28.260of Fast and the Furious, caught doing, according to reports, 142 kilometers an hour,
00:04:35.360ticketed by Alberta sheriffs at 142 kilometers an hour in a 100 kilometer zone. I thought that
00:04:43.040gets your license taken away or an automatic court appearance or something, but we'll see
00:04:48.440what happens. But an interesting little story that I don't think would be otherwise newsworthy
00:04:52.380other than that she's anti-car. But when she gets one, Paul, she sure loves using it then.
00:04:58.960Okay, before we get started, though, we're going to thank my favorite sponsor, the Canadian
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00:05:43.640All right, we're going to start with the story with Jordan Peterson here. So this goes back at least six months ago, maybe longer, but there was this crazy news that the Ontario College of Psychologists, if I'm getting the name right, something like that, they just disciplined him.
00:06:06.940said bad Jordan, the college could not cite a single patient current or in the history of Jordan Peterson's very long practice that had filed a complaint here.
00:06:20.500So no actual complaints from anyone who's ever been a patient of Jordan Peterson, but so presumably complaints from people who have nothing to do with him.
00:06:30.560But in there, they cited mean tweets he had made about Justin Trudeau, that he does not like Justin Trudeau, some unflattering things he said about Justin Trudeau, his positions on various public policy issues.
00:06:45.400Apparently, all of this makes him unfit to do his job as a psychologist.
00:06:50.080Well, Jordan Peterson became famous to begin with for not giving an F about what the authorities tell him he has to say or what he cannot say.
00:07:00.560And so it's no surprise to anyone that he does not comply.
00:07:06.000So he takes it to court because these things can be appealed to a court.
00:07:10.400And the Ontario courts have ruled that it was a, quote, minimal intrusion on his freedom of speech.
00:07:16.020Such a Canadian ruling that you don't really care about freedom of speech.
00:07:20.340Freedom of speech is there as long as it doesn't conflict with anyone's feelings.
00:07:24.520And, you know, feelings, that's what really matters here.
00:07:28.440And so, yeah, it might be a minor inconvenience to his freedom of speech, but it'll be a big help to people's feelings if he doesn't have no thoughts about Justin Trudeau.
00:07:40.260Nigel, what do you think the fallout of this is going to be?
00:07:43.020Because I have an inkling that Jordan Peterson is not going to be attending the court-ordered sensitivity training anytime soon.
00:07:53.180I suppose the consequence of that will be that if he doesn't, they can revoke his license.
00:07:58.440What do you think the actual consequences of this will be if he does not attend the court-ordered sensitivity training?
00:08:03.780Well, just what you said, they'd pull his license.
00:08:05.720Actually, I wish he would go and live stream it.
00:08:08.800I'm actually thinking that might be more fun.
00:08:10.980You know, but I know the college is not going to go for that because anything that could bring the profession into further disrepute, they would stay away from.
00:08:19.100But I would guarantee you that if it were live streamed and if he did go through with it, they'd make them look like fools, which of course is what they are.
00:08:27.540What do you think would be better? Him thumbing his nose and saying, screw you, I'm not going, take my license away, because he's not actually really, I don't believe he's actually practicing clinically anymore with patients. He's doing other things, making way more money than I think he could as a psychologist. What's better, him thumbing his nose, because that sends a good message, but as Nigel says, would it be better for him to just live stream this?
00:08:48.940I feel like Ezra Levant at the Human Rights Commission when he attended, but then just blasted them for the entirety of the interview.
00:08:57.540I mean, if Peterson put his feet up like an intransigent student that I'm sure he dealt with in some of his classes and just, you know, coasted through it and made a mockery of it.
00:09:07.940So, I mean, I guess, you know, it would be entertaining, but it would also undercut the seriousness of what's happened.
00:09:36.760So if they take his license away, well, all they're doing is the college is denigrating itself.
00:09:41.480But it might send a real chill through the spine of everyone else in the profession who doesn't kind of worship at the same altar as these guys that, okay, fine.
00:09:55.320Jordan Peterson has the means to say, screw you.
00:10:01.380But there'll be a bunch of smaller fish in Ontario who are psychologists who, you know, aren't with the program yet, haven't gone through official re-education, if you will.
00:10:11.480or sensitivity training, whatever we call it, this could send a real chill through the entire profession
00:10:17.960or the professions in general that they can use this to shut you up.
00:10:22.320Yes, well, that is why this case matters.
00:10:25.360I mean, as far as you say, with Jordan Peterson, all that will happen is he'll put his fees up
00:10:29.520and people will be glad to pay them because now not only is he the voice of reason,
00:10:35.840You know, in one sense, the college is working against itself, but you're right, the word will filter down through the levels, and not just in the professions, but also to just people on the street, because what comes out in the end is, well, you know, you can't say that anymore.
00:10:53.640Look what they did to Peterson, not realizing that they did nothing to Peterson, but there is this chill effect, and that's what they're after.
00:11:02.340they want to control speech. You mentioned just now, and you were right, that it is not just
00:11:08.420the psychologists. We've got the same thing happening right here in Alberta with the
00:11:13.520Law Society. They are trying to define what lawyers think and speak about and should say.
00:11:22.140Medical associations across the country have been...
00:11:25.100During COVID, they tried to strip the credentials of people who disagree with lockdowns and
00:11:29.680mandates that it's people still struggling with that stuff. So
00:11:33.680these professional associations are very kind of a behind the
00:11:39.680scenes type of influence, but they're real. And the Peterson
00:11:43.360case just shows that beautifully. It's very dangerous.
00:11:46.760Cory, I've generally liked the idea of professions regulating
00:11:50.120themselves for the most part, but they can be a bit gatekeeper
00:11:53.680sometimes. Some of these professional associations will
00:11:56.540limit numbers coming in as a way of creating artificial
00:11:59.360scarcity, thereby increasing their own value in the market. But this is, this is a new kind of
00:12:06.020game, I think. You know, maybe it's happened before in other forms. But at least in my lifetime,
00:12:11.420I can't recall professional associations becoming this inherently political, this inherently involved
00:12:17.960in the latest social and political issues. And so, so strictly defining what is the politically
00:12:26.260correct thought? What is right thinking at the time? Do you think the answer might be to clip
00:12:32.780the wings of these associations to take away some of their self-governance if they're doing it?
00:12:36.820Well, it's a tough area. Yeah, I mean, you take away the self-governance. Well, there has to be
00:12:41.480a regulatory body for some of these in some sort of sense. And I don't trust the government to be
00:12:45.180any better at it. In fact, they would be worse. And when it's a mandated membership in order to
00:12:51.280your trade, you have no choice but to comply. I don't have an easy answer. Pushing back the
00:12:57.520members of these organizations, they're supposed to be member driven. So I mean, the members have
00:13:02.100to stand up and they have to stand up for each other. And they're quietly sitting by the sidelines
00:13:05.760while Peterson gets battered. It's unfortunate, we should be seeing more psychologists standing
00:13:09.840up saying, hey, hey, hey, this isn't what I'm part of this association for. Well, they're,
00:13:13.560Canadian courts, I have such a loathing lack of respect for. They're so political and, you know, the American courts are political as well, but at least there are some checks and balances in the process. They actually get vetted going in, whereas here it's really just whoever the prime minister or the premier for the lower courts wants.
00:13:36.560Well, they vet the donations to the party.
00:13:38.660Yes, there is a vetting to make sure donors get it.
00:13:42.780Maybe the answer is just more in the legislative framework around this.
00:13:47.040You know, the government, I certainly wouldn't want the government involved in any of the minutiae of these professions.
00:13:52.760Leave them self-governing, but there is legislation that sets out the framework of what they can do.
00:13:57.200Define a little bit more of what's unprofessional.
00:13:59.100I mean, there are things that could have been done unprofessionally online that perhaps they would step in on,
00:14:03.020Not in the case of Peterson, but if he'd have been on there being perverse, if he'd have been harassing people on there or stalking people.
00:14:09.240I mean, there's things where they might want to say, you're not representing political views.
00:14:13.220That was an opinion they had a problem with.
00:14:15.460And then, yeah, maybe they need something in their mandate to say, no, this has to be a behavior rather opinion.
00:14:19.380The courts have no interest in supporting this at all.
00:14:24.400It's a typical Canadian ruling where freedom of speech is acknowledged to exist, but it is subordinate to everything else.
00:14:32.340I think what you're looking at is the result of the long march through the institutions that the revolutionaries first started talking about in the 1960s.
00:14:40.640They've gone into the universities, they've gone into the teachers' training colleges,
00:14:44.360the people who came out of the university and the teachers' training colleges and went into the schools.
00:14:48.880And finally, we're starting to see a generation of people who actually genuinely do not believe in free speech.
00:14:56.440and they do want to see society molded in a certain way
00:15:02.220and they are the ones who are now in the professional associations
00:15:42.640I think this kind of comes after the big brouhaha in New Brunswick.
00:15:48.960And I guess Saskatchewan looked at it and said, huh, that's a good idea.
00:15:53.080Yes. Thanks, Eric. Yeah, they did. And they actually went a step further than any other
00:15:59.380province has so far in Canada by also excluding all third-party organizations. So that would
00:16:05.020include Planned Parenthood and also AHRQ, which is in charge of the SOGI training that's going on
00:16:11.680in the schools. So they're reviewing all of that material before any of it can be taught in the
00:16:16.100classroom. And teachers are the only ones who can actually teach sexual ed going forward.0.55
00:16:20.720And then you also have, if your kid wants to change their name or pronouns and they're under the age of 16, there has to be a parent meeting connected to that with the school.
00:16:30.380So they are making major changes to the way things were being done here.
00:16:34.980And definitely the sex cards in the Lumpston High School was a big catalyst for that.
00:16:39.540And in the recent by-election in Lumpston, that was a major factor in the actual election.
00:16:44.840Correct me if I'm wrong, was it you who broke that story about Planned Parenthood's sex cards?
00:16:50.000That is correct. Yes, we did break the story and it even got picked up in international media as well eventually.
00:16:55.000Yeah, well maybe elaborate on that. I think that's an issue in Saskatchewan. I think a lot of people outside of Saskatchewan don't know.
00:17:03.000So this was Planned Parenthood for some reason involved in sex education in schools and they brought some, let's call them very graphic cards into the classroom.
00:17:17.000class. Tell us a bit about what happened here and then what the government's reaction was when you
00:17:21.540broke the story. So basically what happened was Planned Parenthood was in a grade nine class at
00:17:26.740Lumsden High School doing a sexual education presentation. Now it wasn't part of the
00:17:33.120presentation but they had this other table with other materials on it including the sex cards
00:17:38.680and the Planned Parenthood person who was doing the presentation grabbed one of the decks gave it
00:17:44.320to some kids at a table and they started reading through it and it's like you're supposed to ask
00:17:48.160this and do they know what this is and stuff and um they were straight up i mean jerry ritz said it
00:17:54.960pretty good he called them pornographic uh and nothing short of that um as a matter of fact we
00:18:00.240ended up only printing uh the words off of three of the cards and only printing two and there was
00:18:06.000one for every letter of the alphabet uh because they would a lot of them there there's an open
00:18:12.480an RCMP investigation into this right now. Two students have already given statements to the
00:18:18.540police about it, and it is an ongoing investigation, because those cards were way over the line of
00:18:24.840what should be considered acceptable, and the media had to censor themselves on what we could
00:18:30.560even say. I don't want to put you on the spot, because we haven't really prepared. I didn't say
00:18:36.680I'd tell you in advance we're going to do this, but are there any best, greatest hits, some of the
00:18:41.240most outrageous cards uh that they gave to these children uh that you might be able to remember
00:18:47.120off the top of your mind hmm um well I thought for sure what's I don't know um well there was
00:18:55.160something called dangles uh which is when um there is toilet paper on someone's bum you might find
00:19:02.120if you're in that area yeah um amongst others um I did think uh dingleberries yeah dingleberries
00:19:32.780I'll tell you off air, but I can't really say it or not.
00:19:38.780fair it's you know what we'll do is we're going to put this behind the paywall so only members
00:19:43.180yeah this will be a members only feature on the western standard uh chris can you
00:19:50.140go ahead uh the the organization that distributed those cards took them off their uh website after
00:19:56.220the whole kerfuffle happened um and we are actually one of the only ones with a full deck
00:20:01.020so we actually have the pdf of the original cards here uh chris is the only one working with a full
00:20:06.540deck in Saskatchewan. I'm the only one working with the full deck here in Saskatchewan,
00:20:10.220because I went and got it before they took it down. Chris, okay, we're gonna have to talk about
00:20:15.500this after, but I think we should PDF all these cards, and we're gonna put this as a members-only
00:20:22.780article on the Western Standard. So if you want to see what colorful things are being shown from
00:20:29.820Planned Parenthood and recently the government of Saskatchewan to children there, you're gonna
00:20:35.020have to be a member uh and it's gonna have to be members only because we're gonna have to say like
00:20:38.460are you 18 plus to view this content or something you know it's we don't want kids getting this
00:20:43.020stuff oh yeah yeah i have a pdf of them all yep we're good to go you do it as a sign up you can
00:20:48.860do it as a sign up bonus or something all right you figure out the promo uh all right we'll talk
00:20:53.420to dave about it uh but you heard it here uh check back within 24 hours and you'll be able to get
00:20:58.300full access to new x-rated material on the western standard let's be a special members only
00:21:05.020But, hey, this stuff was at least temporarily given in Saskatchewan classrooms, so it must be appropriate, right?
00:21:15.240Okay, and has there been any pushback since the announcement around pronouns?
00:21:19.620I know in New Brunswick, the government, they got a PC government there.
00:21:26.380Atlantic conservative governments are not known for being particularly conservative,
00:21:29.780But they, you know, they did a pretty common sense thing and said, kids under 18, we're not going to call them by, you know, if your name's Bob, we're not going to call them Sue without the parents being notified here and signing off.
00:21:45.120Or if they are a boy, we're not going to call them a girl, et cetera.
00:21:50.000Big blow up that's happened politically there, challenges to the leadership of the premier.
00:21:55.100Has there been any pushback or any reaction from the opposition in Saskatchewan, this change around pronouns and names and stuff for kids under 16?
00:22:07.720Well, yes. Carla Beck did say it was a new low for the government and called the policies transphobic.0.88
00:22:29.960Violent and despicable. Yeah. She said it, outing children as part of a political gamble is a violent and despicable thing.
00:22:36.860And then you had the even you had outside of Saskatchewan reaction to like Canadian Civil Liberties Association came out with a big statement on, you know, how this was going to hurt kids at home who don't want to tell their parents and things like that.
00:22:52.860Does anyone read? Do we have the reaction from the Canadian Civil Liberties Association on ordering Jordan Peterson to sensitivity training for mean tweets about Justin Trudeau? Do we have that reaction? Do we have their statement here?
00:23:05.880I have not seen that. No, I don't. I don't believe they'll be issuing.
00:23:09.400Bueller. Bueller. No, nothing. No, nothing from the Canadian Civil Liberties Association about court ordered sensitivity training for mean tweets to the prime minister.
00:23:18.760OK. All right. Well, Chris, thank you very much for your time. Did we do we miss anything on this one?
00:23:26.140I know. I mean, Moe came out in support of it, obviously, because there's his minister of education.
00:23:31.120But, yeah, the only the only interesting part that we haven't mentioned is that in two different meetings Planned Parenthood had with the education minister, they said they were interested in moving away from delivering classroom material, which they've now been removed from anyways.
00:23:47.340So, yeah. Screw you guys. I'm going home.
00:23:52.620Chris, thank you very much for joining us. Thanks, Eric. All right.
00:24:01.120With these violent, violent outbursts by the government of Saskatchewan.
00:24:05.560Well, that's Gil McAllen's counterpart over there.
00:24:07.360So it's good to know that their head of the labor is as crazy as ours is.
00:24:10.580Yeah, good to know that the union movement is standing up to make sure that children can be called by incorrect pronouns without their permission.
00:24:18.440But you notice the fast and loose use of the language here.
00:24:21.820It is actually not violent when you say something.
00:27:07.400um and he's um a vice chair on this panel uh right next to the man that used to be the chief of staff
00:27:15.480for xi xingping who's like number six on the communist party hierarchy and who's in charge of
00:27:22.600administering hong kong and we all know how that's going uh you know people in hong kong are rushing
00:27:27.800to get out basically because of all the repression that's going on so it does seem a little bit odd
00:27:34.280you know that uh monsieur gilbo would uh take this title that that he would even accept a title on
00:27:42.280this working board even if it is ceremonial or regardless of even what it hopes to achieve
00:27:49.160yeah this body is i don't know how much of you guys have seen of this but it's it's an apparatus
00:27:54.520of the communist party the chinese the ccp and gilbo has an official position on it now
00:28:01.320Now, I mean, and all this takes place in the background of very, very serious allegations of Chinese communist interference in Canadian elections.
00:28:14.360does is he just not seeing what we're seeing is he just like I mean in politics it can be hard
00:28:22.720to get perspective of yourself it happens but I have a hard time seeing how Gilbo and the liberals
00:28:30.220don't take one look at this and say at the very least this is a bad look that we're going coddling
00:28:37.040the Chinese talking to them real nice and gentle about global warming while we're trying to crush
00:28:41.920Alberta and Saskatchewan here. But we're going to go coddle the Chinese and join as a senior member1.00
00:28:47.700an apparatus of the Chinese Communist Party. Yeah, I mean, it is absolutely insane. What is
00:28:54.840Gilboa thinking? You say, I think it's quite possible that he is a sort of a hair-shirted
00:29:00.820idealist. Probably he doesn't see the conflict, but there are enough people in the prime minister's
00:29:05.220office and in the Privy Council office who would absolutely see that this is a crazy thing.
00:29:11.340they would have been warned, and they're doing it anyway.
00:29:14.320I just want to sort of emphasize something that Sean just said there,
00:29:20.320They, the Liberal government, will not allow Alberta to export natural gas to China
00:29:26.400so that China doesn't have to build so many coal-powered generating stations.
00:29:32.280But they've got nothing to say about Roberts Bank,
00:29:34.580where this coal is going offshore to China, to generating stations.
00:29:39.260and apparently polluting the atmosphere.
00:29:43.620I would add, too, Nigel, Seattle won't touch it.
00:29:47.080So the reason a lot of that coal is coming through Vancouver
00:29:50.100is because the American ports on the West Coast won't touch it
00:29:53.320because they're shipping coal for electricity to China, you know.
00:30:00.320No, it's an absolute, like, when you look at these kinds
00:30:03.960of contradictions within government policy,
00:30:07.740never mind within the world at large, but just within government policy, you have to wonder
00:30:11.440what is the animating spirit within that government. Yeah. Gilbo comes by here not that
00:30:18.840long ago to Alberta, and he refused to meet with senior energy executives who ostensibly will have
00:30:25.920something to do with his grand plans for Alberta's energy grid, but just not interested in meeting
00:30:32.960with them. But he'll go meet with communist butchers who are actively involved in undermining
00:30:40.320Canadian democracy. No problem. All right. Thank you for joining us, Sean. Thank you.
00:30:49.120You know who doesn't like Facebook? It's China. China. They don't like Facebook. Lots of censorship
00:30:55.120on Facebook. And as you all know, we've got a lot of censorship on Facebook now. Actually,
00:31:00.640Canada, arguably outside of probably North Korea, would have probably the most censored Facebook feed of any country on the planet, barring North Korea.
00:31:11.760Now, it's not that the government passed a bill banning the news from Facebook.
00:31:17.140It's that the government passed a bill that Facebook says would result in them having no choice but to censor the news from Facebook, which is what they've done.
00:31:28.140Much to the shock of the government, Facebook did exactly what it said for the last year and a half before Bill C-18 was passed.
00:31:35.540They did exactly what they said they would do.
00:31:38.140And now they're trying to score points with the fires.
00:31:41.120So Trudeau and his guys are saying, wow, we, and the CBC, the CBC in particular has got some, you know, pulling on heartstrings saying, please lift the ban on CBC for these fires in Yellowknife.
00:31:56.180So no one in Yellowknife would know there's fires unless you can read the CBC on Facebook.
00:32:05.820But I think what we're getting now is an admission from the government, an admission from the CBC, an admission from the Toristar and Postmedia.
00:32:13.740All these crooks who were saying that having our links on your platforms was stealing from us.
00:32:22.860Now they're saying not having our links on your platforms is an attack on democracy.
00:32:37.340They're desperate and they're floundering.
00:32:39.080They've backed themselves in the corner and they won't back down.
00:32:41.920I mean, they will not repeal this thing.
00:32:44.480Meta called their bluff and said, fine, we'll stop linking.
00:32:48.380And you know what? No matter what is coming now, even if it was just short term for an emergency and if Zuckerberg felt, oh, you know, I feel bad about this, I'll lift it just during the fire.
00:32:58.380No, no, no, no, no. Now you're opening the door for them to extort from you.
00:33:02.400Now you've set the precedent post bill of having those links on there.
00:33:07.480They're not going to do it. They're not going to stick it up there.
00:33:09.980It was an attempted shakedown. It failed.
00:33:12.900And this government, in my view, is quite pathetically.
00:33:16.400Let's move on to the fast and furious Freeland.
00:34:10.860Now, she was going particularly high over the limit, 42 over the limit in 100 kilometer zone, according to reports.
00:34:18.180Now, this report came from Kian Bextie at the Counter Signal.
00:34:21.440They're an independent media outlet in Alberta.
00:34:24.600We credit them for the story, notably Post Media, which runs the Sun Papers, National Post, the Herald Journal, all these other ones.
00:34:32.200They use this story and they didn't credit them.
00:34:34.440I think you should be luring up to get these guys to pay due credit.
00:34:37.920They might not like them. They might call them all sorts of nasty names. Take someone's story. You credit them. We credit the CBC, for God's sakes, and we don't like doing it. We cringe a bit when we have to credit the CBC or TORSTAR, but that's what you do as a professional courtesy.
00:34:54.660And in fact, it arguably might be a matter of copyright to be stealing that.
00:34:59.460But anyway, we'll start with you, Corey.
00:35:03.080Is it newsworthy that the deputy premier's got the pretty hefty speeding ticket up in the beach country?
00:35:08.660Sure, there's nothing to break into the middle of a football game for with breaking news, but it's worth noting.
00:35:14.220Unless he's driving a white Bronco and we've got the helicopter.
00:35:19.240She put herself on that pedestal, and this is the second time she's been slapped since putting herself on that pedestal, because the first time was when it was found the chauffeur was saying, well, yeah, but it was expenses for all these other days.
00:35:30.880So, no, technically, she didn't need a car and she didn't drive, but she had a private chauffeured SUV on the bill of the taxpayer.
00:35:38.240So, that makes it a little different now, doesn't it, Madam Freeland?
00:35:41.100But now, as well with, okay, you're in Alberta.
00:35:43.900You rented a vehicle or borrowed or presumably or something like that.
00:37:14.020i you know i don't care like our speed limits are too low i have i think we should actually have an
00:37:18.580albertabon so like build out our highways enough and in the areas where it's straight and it's
00:37:25.140level drive as fast as you want as long as we've got some good rules on the road you know slow
00:37:30.420traffic stays right that kind of thing well watch out for deer yeah yeah yeah i gotta get a i gotta
00:37:36.180get one of those deer cages on my truck yeah the thing is the environmentalists i mean there's
00:37:40.180some that i respect and that's the ones that walk the walk i i think of celebrities even i think it's
00:37:45.060ed bigley jr he he actually lives in a small house he drives he rides his bike does things he can't
00:37:51.700versus dicaprio who's in a giant yacht who's telling us not to consume more stuff or gilbo
00:37:58.260freeland all over the they fly around world and then when you're driving i mean i was she using
00:38:03.220a tesla do we know she was driving we should find out what kind of car she was using because i guess1.00
00:38:07.860it wouldn't have been that much more in emissions if uh she was it was electric yeah well then it0.90
00:38:12.340would be charged through a coal generating plant up in northern Alberta you know uh i was meeting
00:38:17.460with someone yesterday i can't say who but i i was in a meeting yesterday and uh told me a funny
00:38:22.900story he saw it was just the last few days he saw someone driving a tesla around calgary and he says
00:38:28.580this this was the only vanity license plate he's ever liked i thought it was good he's driving a
00:38:33.060tesla and it said the license plate was coal-powered so he was aware and i mean like
00:38:40.340but i've never driven a tesla but apparently they're a pretty good ride they're fast they're
00:38:44.340powerful they're just grossly expensive but i mean if you want to drive a tesla drive a tesla just
00:38:49.860don't think you're morally superior about it and apparently this guy that's what he was he wanted
00:38:54.100the tesla he just didn't feel morally superior about it so kind of disclosed that yeah i'm driving
00:38:59.620a tesla but i know what power is the tesla at the end of the day my neighbor says it's like driving
00:39:04.180your phone so that could be a good thing or a bad thing you know i don't know give me a switch
00:39:10.260something i can turn off and on i like to hear some vroom when i drive and it's pretty quiet
00:39:15.140i've seen that with a i think some of the sports models of specialty they have the sounds and the
00:39:21.380vibration because they can't get the the high-end sports cars purchases we're talking the six-figure
00:39:26.900cars to get in. They want to feel it. So they've actually simulated it within the vehicle so they
00:39:33.860can get that feel while they drive. Because I guess they really do pick up and go as fast as
00:39:37.240a carbon. They're apparently a good drive. Yeah, but you just don't get that feel. So the real
00:39:41.360expensive ones. They probably take off like a rocket. That's SpaceX. Different Elon company.
00:39:48.020Okay, well, let's wrap it up there. Nigel, Corey, thank you for joining. It was fun.
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