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00:00:00.000 Hello and good day. I'm Derek Fildebrandt, publisher of the Western Standard, and you're

00:00:16.300 watching The Pipeline. Today is August 23rd, 2023. I'm joined, as always, by Western Standard

00:00:23.220 opinion editor Nigel Henniford, fresh off of his interview with Alberta Premier Daniel

00:00:27.360 Smith just minutes ago. The Premier says hello. Oh, well, top of the morning to her too. And joined 0.89

00:00:33.420 as usual as well by Western Centered Senior Alberta Columnist Corey Morgan, who just came out of,

00:00:39.660 I don't know, chatting with colleagues in the newsroom. Yeah, it's pretty much just sitting

00:00:43.180 around gossiping. They're not nearly as interesting, I'm sure. No. No. Do they say hello as well?

00:00:48.500 They do. Yeah. When prompted. Good. We're also going to be joined later in the show by Western

00:00:53.940 Standard Saskatchewan Bureau Chief Chris Oldcorn and by Western Standard Business and Energy

00:01:00.080 Reporter Sean Polzer. We're going to be talking today about this is a funny one. A Ontario court

00:01:09.200 has ordered that Jordan Peterson undergoes sensitivity training because he said he made

00:01:15.140 some mean tweets about Justin Trudeau. Yeah, this is a real thing. The, I think it's called

00:01:24.060 something along the lines of the Ontario College of Psychologists or whatnot, disciplining him,

00:01:29.960 trying to slap him for mean tweets about Justin Trudeau and how that could traumatize

00:01:35.280 his patients, even though he doesn't have any patients at the moment. And they couldn't cite

00:01:40.240 a single patient complaint against him. Apparently, this traumatizes him. He said, to hell with you.

00:01:45.820 He goes to court, and the court has agreed Jordan Peterson needs to attend sensitivity training. 0.91

00:01:53.740 Saskatchewan, significant move there. Some of you will recall the big kerfuffle in New Brunswick.

00:01:58.440 The New Brunswick government had the audacity to say that if students under the age of 16

00:02:06.020 are going to be called by a different name other than their given name or different pronouns other

00:02:13.420 than the pronouns used by their parents. Well, the parents were going to have to sign off on this for

00:02:18.520 kids younger than 16. Big kerfuffle there. But Saskatchewan has picked this up. That is now

00:02:24.580 going to be policy in Saskatchewan schools. You want to, a school wants to call a kid by a name

00:02:30.500 that's not their name or a pronoun that is not aligned with their sex. You're going to have to

00:02:35.180 of parental sign-off for that, as well as changes to sex ed, that parents are going to have a bit

00:02:39.580 more say over it, and banning third parties like Planned Parenthood from participating in sex ed

00:02:44.320 after some pretty raunchy, that's called raunchy, so-called educational aids used in the classroom.

00:02:53.240 Well, that's now resulted in Planned Parenthood and third parties being banned from the classroom

00:02:57.260 in sex ed. So we're going to talk to our Saskatchewan Bureau Chief, Chris Oldcorn, about that

00:03:01.500 soon. Stephen Gilbo, a federal environment minister, gone to China, playing very nice

00:03:09.480 with the Chinese. The Chinese can be dealt with when it comes to stopping global warming and the 1.00

00:03:14.480 like. We're going to talk about his trip to China and contrasting that with his interactions with

00:03:21.280 the much more evil and totalitarian regime of the People's Republic of Alberta. So we're going to

00:03:27.660 to our our business uh business reporter sean polzer about that as well justin trudeau is very

00:03:34.380 angry at facebook he passed a law saying facebook has to give free money to his friends in the legacy

00:03:40.860 media and facebook said no we don't because we're just not going to provide news on our platform

00:03:46.380 anymore and justin trudeau says facebook you're killing people there are fires going on and

00:03:51.660 without facebook people wouldn't know that their house is on fire you're killing people so justin

00:03:56.540 Trudeau very angry unfriending Facebook and then of course a little close to home federal news but

00:04:03.500 close to home Christia Freeland famously who says famously says she doesn't need to own a car I live

00:04:11.800 in downtown Toronto I don't own a car why the rest of you yokels own cars we can be we can reduce our

00:04:17.160 common carbon by not owning cars well she was driving one very recently not sure it was rented

00:04:22.100 your friends or whatnot, but she was driving a car and apparently doing her best impression

00:04:28.260 of Fast and the Furious, caught doing, according to reports, 142 kilometers an hour,

00:04:35.360 ticketed by Alberta sheriffs at 142 kilometers an hour in a 100 kilometer zone. I thought that

00:04:43.040 gets your license taken away or an automatic court appearance or something, but we'll see

00:04:48.440 what happens. But an interesting little story that I don't think would be otherwise newsworthy

00:04:52.380 other than that she's anti-car. But when she gets one, Paul, she sure loves using it then.

00:04:58.960 Okay, before we get started, though, we're going to thank my favorite sponsor, the Canadian

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00:05:43.640 All right, we're going to start with the story with Jordan Peterson here. So this goes back at least six months ago, maybe longer, but there was this crazy news that the Ontario College of Psychologists, if I'm getting the name right, something like that, they just disciplined him.

00:06:06.940 said bad Jordan, the college could not cite a single patient current or in the history of Jordan Peterson's very long practice that had filed a complaint here.

00:06:20.500 So no actual complaints from anyone who's ever been a patient of Jordan Peterson, but so presumably complaints from people who have nothing to do with him.

00:06:30.560 But in there, they cited mean tweets he had made about Justin Trudeau, that he does not like Justin Trudeau, some unflattering things he said about Justin Trudeau, his positions on various public policy issues.

00:06:45.400 Apparently, all of this makes him unfit to do his job as a psychologist.

00:06:50.080 Well, Jordan Peterson became famous to begin with for not giving an F about what the authorities tell him he has to say or what he cannot say.

00:07:00.560 And so it's no surprise to anyone that he does not comply.

00:07:06.000 So he takes it to court because these things can be appealed to a court.

00:07:10.400 And the Ontario courts have ruled that it was a, quote, minimal intrusion on his freedom of speech.

00:07:16.020 Such a Canadian ruling that you don't really care about freedom of speech.

00:07:20.340 Freedom of speech is there as long as it doesn't conflict with anyone's feelings.

00:07:24.520 And, you know, feelings, that's what really matters here.

00:07:28.440 And so, yeah, it might be a minor inconvenience to his freedom of speech, but it'll be a big help to people's feelings if he doesn't have no thoughts about Justin Trudeau.

00:07:40.260 Nigel, what do you think the fallout of this is going to be?

00:07:43.020 Because I have an inkling that Jordan Peterson is not going to be attending the court-ordered sensitivity training anytime soon.

00:07:53.180 I suppose the consequence of that will be that if he doesn't, they can revoke his license.

00:07:58.440 What do you think the actual consequences of this will be if he does not attend the court-ordered sensitivity training?

00:08:03.780 Well, just what you said, they'd pull his license.

00:08:05.720 Actually, I wish he would go and live stream it.

00:08:08.800 I'm actually thinking that might be more fun.

00:08:10.980 You know, but I know the college is not going to go for that because anything that could bring the profession into further disrepute, they would stay away from. 0.94

00:08:19.100 But I would guarantee you that if it were live streamed and if he did go through with it, they'd make them look like fools, which of course is what they are.

00:08:27.540 What do you think would be better? Him thumbing his nose and saying, screw you, I'm not going, take my license away, because he's not actually really, I don't believe he's actually practicing clinically anymore with patients. He's doing other things, making way more money than I think he could as a psychologist. What's better, him thumbing his nose, because that sends a good message, but as Nigel says, would it be better for him to just live stream this? 0.96

00:08:48.940 I feel like Ezra Levant at the Human Rights Commission when he attended, but then just blasted them for the entirety of the interview.

00:08:57.540 I mean, if Peterson put his feet up like an intransigent student that I'm sure he dealt with in some of his classes and just, you know, coasted through it and made a mockery of it.

00:09:07.940 So, I mean, I guess, you know, it would be entertaining, but it would also undercut the seriousness of what's happened.

00:09:13.400 I mean, it's not going to hurt him.

00:09:14.900 He's selling books.

00:09:15.540 He's got the speaking circuit.

00:09:16.580 He's got the courses.

00:09:17.520 But the cancel mob have realized a new way to shut people down, and that's to go after their professional associations.

00:09:23.120 And that's scary.

00:09:24.020 And not everybody can afford to thumb their nose at it like Jordan Peterson can.

00:09:27.640 So I hope he does keep fighting because he's fighting for more than just himself on this.

00:09:30.780 So we were talking about this offline, Nigel, because it's not going to be a hit to him.

00:09:35.900 He's not really practical.

00:09:36.760 So if they take his license away, well, all they're doing is the college is denigrating itself.

00:09:41.480 But it might send a real chill through the spine of everyone else in the profession who doesn't kind of worship at the same altar as these guys that, okay, fine. 0.96

00:09:55.320 Jordan Peterson has the means to say, screw you. 0.61

00:09:58.980 Take my license away. 0.97

00:10:00.160 What are you going to do?

00:10:00.700 It's not going to hurt me.

00:10:01.380 But there'll be a bunch of smaller fish in Ontario who are psychologists who, you know, aren't with the program yet, haven't gone through official re-education, if you will.

00:10:11.480 or sensitivity training, whatever we call it, this could send a real chill through the entire profession

00:10:17.960 or the professions in general that they can use this to shut you up.

00:10:22.320 Yes, well, that is why this case matters.

00:10:25.360 I mean, as far as you say, with Jordan Peterson, all that will happen is he'll put his fees up

00:10:29.520 and people will be glad to pay them because now not only is he the voice of reason,

00:10:34.440 he's also a martyr to reason.

00:10:35.840 You know, in one sense, the college is working against itself, but you're right, the word will filter down through the levels, and not just in the professions, but also to just people on the street, because what comes out in the end is, well, you know, you can't say that anymore.

00:10:53.640 Look what they did to Peterson, not realizing that they did nothing to Peterson, but there is this chill effect, and that's what they're after.

00:11:02.340 they want to control speech. You mentioned just now, and you were right, that it is not just

00:11:08.420 the psychologists. We've got the same thing happening right here in Alberta with the

00:11:13.520 Law Society. They are trying to define what lawyers think and speak about and should say.

00:11:22.140 Medical associations across the country have been...

00:11:25.100 During COVID, they tried to strip the credentials of people who disagree with lockdowns and

00:11:29.680 mandates that it's people still struggling with that stuff. So

00:11:33.680 these professional associations are very kind of a behind the

00:11:39.680 scenes type of influence, but they're real. And the Peterson

00:11:43.360 case just shows that beautifully. It's very dangerous.

00:11:46.760 Cory, I've generally liked the idea of professions regulating

00:11:50.120 themselves for the most part, but they can be a bit gatekeeper

00:11:53.680 sometimes. Some of these professional associations will

00:11:56.540 limit numbers coming in as a way of creating artificial

00:11:59.360 scarcity, thereby increasing their own value in the market. But this is, this is a new kind of

00:12:06.020 game, I think. You know, maybe it's happened before in other forms. But at least in my lifetime,

00:12:11.420 I can't recall professional associations becoming this inherently political, this inherently involved

00:12:17.960 in the latest social and political issues. And so, so strictly defining what is the politically

00:12:26.260 correct thought? What is right thinking at the time? Do you think the answer might be to clip

00:12:32.780 the wings of these associations to take away some of their self-governance if they're doing it?

00:12:36.820 Well, it's a tough area. Yeah, I mean, you take away the self-governance. Well, there has to be

00:12:41.480 a regulatory body for some of these in some sort of sense. And I don't trust the government to be

00:12:45.180 any better at it. In fact, they would be worse. And when it's a mandated membership in order to

00:12:51.280 your trade, you have no choice but to comply. I don't have an easy answer. Pushing back the

00:12:57.520 members of these organizations, they're supposed to be member driven. So I mean, the members have

00:13:02.100 to stand up and they have to stand up for each other. And they're quietly sitting by the sidelines

00:13:05.760 while Peterson gets battered. It's unfortunate, we should be seeing more psychologists standing

00:13:09.840 up saying, hey, hey, hey, this isn't what I'm part of this association for. Well, they're,

00:13:13.560 Canadian courts, I have such a loathing lack of respect for. They're so political and, you know, the American courts are political as well, but at least there are some checks and balances in the process. They actually get vetted going in, whereas here it's really just whoever the prime minister or the premier for the lower courts wants.

00:13:36.560 Well, they vet the donations to the party.

00:13:38.660 Yes, there is a vetting to make sure donors get it.

00:13:42.780 Maybe the answer is just more in the legislative framework around this.

00:13:47.040 You know, the government, I certainly wouldn't want the government involved in any of the minutiae of these professions.

00:13:52.760 Leave them self-governing, but there is legislation that sets out the framework of what they can do.

00:13:57.200 Define a little bit more of what's unprofessional.

00:13:59.100 I mean, there are things that could have been done unprofessionally online that perhaps they would step in on,

00:14:03.020 Not in the case of Peterson, but if he'd have been on there being perverse, if he'd have been harassing people on there or stalking people.

00:14:09.240 I mean, there's things where they might want to say, you're not representing political views.

00:14:13.220 That was an opinion they had a problem with.

00:14:15.460 And then, yeah, maybe they need something in their mandate to say, no, this has to be a behavior rather opinion.

00:14:19.380 The courts have no interest in supporting this at all.

00:14:22.260 They think it's just fine.

00:14:24.400 It's a typical Canadian ruling where freedom of speech is acknowledged to exist, but it is subordinate to everything else.

00:14:32.340 I think what you're looking at is the result of the long march through the institutions that the revolutionaries first started talking about in the 1960s.

00:14:40.640 They've gone into the universities, they've gone into the teachers' training colleges,

00:14:44.360 the people who came out of the university and the teachers' training colleges and went into the schools.

00:14:48.880 And finally, we're starting to see a generation of people who actually genuinely do not believe in free speech.

00:14:56.440 and they do want to see society molded in a certain way

00:15:02.220 and they are the ones who are now in the professional associations

00:15:05.860 and driving this bus.

00:15:07.880 And unfortunately, the people who are best qualified to stop them

00:15:10.960 are usually the very best of the best

00:15:13.500 and they're too busy making money to take an interest

00:15:16.260 in the professional association.

00:15:20.460 It's not like this is a judo move by a small group.

00:15:25.120 This is mainstream.

00:15:26.980 All right, we're going to switch it up now.

00:15:28.380 We're going to bring in our Saskatchewan bureau chief based in Regina, Chris Oldcorn.

00:15:35.920 Chris, big changes to sex ed in Saskatchewan.

00:15:40.980 I think maybe set the table for us.

00:15:42.640 I think this kind of comes after the big brouhaha in New Brunswick.

00:15:48.960 And I guess Saskatchewan looked at it and said, huh, that's a good idea.

00:15:53.080 Yes. Thanks, Eric. Yeah, they did. And they actually went a step further than any other

00:15:59.380 province has so far in Canada by also excluding all third-party organizations. So that would

00:16:05.020 include Planned Parenthood and also AHRQ, which is in charge of the SOGI training that's going on

00:16:11.680 in the schools. So they're reviewing all of that material before any of it can be taught in the

00:16:16.100 classroom. And teachers are the only ones who can actually teach sexual ed going forward. 0.55

00:16:20.720 And then you also have, if your kid wants to change their name or pronouns and they're under the age of 16, there has to be a parent meeting connected to that with the school.

00:16:30.380 So they are making major changes to the way things were being done here.

00:16:34.980 And definitely the sex cards in the Lumpston High School was a big catalyst for that.

00:16:39.540 And in the recent by-election in Lumpston, that was a major factor in the actual election.

00:16:44.840 Correct me if I'm wrong, was it you who broke that story about Planned Parenthood's sex cards?

00:16:50.000 That is correct. Yes, we did break the story and it even got picked up in international media as well eventually.

00:16:55.000 Yeah, well maybe elaborate on that. I think that's an issue in Saskatchewan. I think a lot of people outside of Saskatchewan don't know.

00:17:03.000 So this was Planned Parenthood for some reason involved in sex education in schools and they brought some, let's call them very graphic cards into the classroom.

00:17:17.000 class. Tell us a bit about what happened here and then what the government's reaction was when you

00:17:21.540 broke the story. So basically what happened was Planned Parenthood was in a grade nine class at

00:17:26.740 Lumsden High School doing a sexual education presentation. Now it wasn't part of the

00:17:33.120 presentation but they had this other table with other materials on it including the sex cards

00:17:38.680 and the Planned Parenthood person who was doing the presentation grabbed one of the decks gave it

00:17:44.320 to some kids at a table and they started reading through it and it's like you're supposed to ask

00:17:48.160 this and do they know what this is and stuff and um they were straight up i mean jerry ritz said it

00:17:54.960 pretty good he called them pornographic uh and nothing short of that um as a matter of fact we

00:18:00.240 ended up only printing uh the words off of three of the cards and only printing two and there was

00:18:06.000 one for every letter of the alphabet uh because they would a lot of them there there's an open

00:18:12.480 an RCMP investigation into this right now. Two students have already given statements to the

00:18:18.540 police about it, and it is an ongoing investigation, because those cards were way over the line of

00:18:24.840 what should be considered acceptable, and the media had to censor themselves on what we could

00:18:30.560 even say. I don't want to put you on the spot, because we haven't really prepared. I didn't say

00:18:36.680 I'd tell you in advance we're going to do this, but are there any best, greatest hits, some of the

00:18:41.240 most outrageous cards uh that they gave to these children uh that you might be able to remember

00:18:47.120 off the top of your mind hmm um well I thought for sure what's I don't know um well there was

00:18:55.160 something called dangles uh which is when um there is toilet paper on someone's bum you might find

00:19:02.120 if you're in that area yeah um amongst others um I did think uh dingleberries yeah dingleberries

00:19:08.780 Dingleberries?

00:19:09.780 Yes.

00:19:10.780 So was it like D is for dingleberries or...?

00:19:13.780 Correct.

00:19:14.780 Yep.

00:19:15.780 Yep.

00:19:16.780 It was literally one for every letter of the alphabet.

00:19:18.780 I honestly thought that I was going to get H right at heterosexual, but it wasn't.

00:19:21.780 It was called half and half.

00:19:23.780 Oh.

00:19:24.780 Yeah.

00:19:25.780 So even heterosexual didn't make me that.

00:19:26.780 Well, what is half and half without going to be on PG-13?

00:19:29.780 I don't know.

00:19:30.780 I can't do it going...

00:19:32.780 I'll tell you off air, but I can't really say it or not.

00:19:38.780 fair it's you know what we'll do is we're going to put this behind the paywall so only members

00:19:43.180 yeah this will be a members only feature on the western standard uh chris can you

00:19:50.140 go ahead uh the the organization that distributed those cards took them off their uh website after

00:19:56.220 the whole kerfuffle happened um and we are actually one of the only ones with a full deck

00:20:01.020 so we actually have the pdf of the original cards here uh chris is the only one working with a full

00:20:06.540 deck in Saskatchewan. I'm the only one working with the full deck here in Saskatchewan,

00:20:10.220 because I went and got it before they took it down. Chris, okay, we're gonna have to talk about

00:20:15.500 this after, but I think we should PDF all these cards, and we're gonna put this as a members-only

00:20:22.780 article on the Western Standard. So if you want to see what colorful things are being shown from

00:20:29.820 Planned Parenthood and recently the government of Saskatchewan to children there, you're gonna

00:20:35.020 have to be a member uh and it's gonna have to be members only because we're gonna have to say like

00:20:38.460 are you 18 plus to view this content or something you know it's we don't want kids getting this

00:20:43.020 stuff oh yeah yeah i have a pdf of them all yep we're good to go you do it as a sign up you can

00:20:48.860 do it as a sign up bonus or something all right you figure out the promo uh all right we'll talk

00:20:53.420 to dave about it uh but you heard it here uh check back within 24 hours and you'll be able to get

00:20:58.300 full access to new x-rated material on the western standard let's be a special members only

00:21:05.020 But, hey, this stuff was at least temporarily given in Saskatchewan classrooms, so it must be appropriate, right?

00:21:15.240 Okay, and has there been any pushback since the announcement around pronouns?

00:21:19.620 I know in New Brunswick, the government, they got a PC government there.

00:21:26.380 Atlantic conservative governments are not known for being particularly conservative,

00:21:29.780 But they, you know, they did a pretty common sense thing and said, kids under 18, we're not going to call them by, you know, if your name's Bob, we're not going to call them Sue without the parents being notified here and signing off.

00:21:45.120 Or if they are a boy, we're not going to call them a girl, et cetera.

00:21:50.000 Big blow up that's happened politically there, challenges to the leadership of the premier.

00:21:55.100 Has there been any pushback or any reaction from the opposition in Saskatchewan, this change around pronouns and names and stuff for kids under 16?

00:22:07.720 Well, yes. Carla Beck did say it was a new low for the government and called the policies transphobic. 0.88

00:22:14.140 Sorry, who said that?

00:22:15.140 Carla Beck, the leader of the NDP.

00:22:16.900 Okay.

00:22:17.960 She responded to it yesterday.

00:22:19.540 Okay. Also, the Saskatchewan Federation of Labor President also came out and called it a violent and despicable.

00:22:29.060 Violent?

00:22:29.960 Violent and despicable. Yeah. She said it, outing children as part of a political gamble is a violent and despicable thing.

00:22:36.860 And then you had the even you had outside of Saskatchewan reaction to like Canadian Civil Liberties Association came out with a big statement on, you know, how this was going to hurt kids at home who don't want to tell their parents and things like that.

00:22:51.120 So there was a reaction across.

00:22:52.860 Does anyone read? Do we have the reaction from the Canadian Civil Liberties Association on ordering Jordan Peterson to sensitivity training for mean tweets about Justin Trudeau? Do we have that reaction? Do we have their statement here?

00:23:05.880 I have not seen that. No, I don't. I don't believe they'll be issuing.

00:23:09.400 Bueller. Bueller. No, nothing. No, nothing from the Canadian Civil Liberties Association about court ordered sensitivity training for mean tweets to the prime minister.

00:23:18.760 OK. All right. Well, Chris, thank you very much for your time. Did we do we miss anything on this one?

00:23:26.140 I know. I mean, Moe came out in support of it, obviously, because there's his minister of education.

00:23:31.120 But, yeah, the only the only interesting part that we haven't mentioned is that in two different meetings Planned Parenthood had with the education minister, they said they were interested in moving away from delivering classroom material, which they've now been removed from anyways.

00:23:47.340 So, yeah. Screw you guys. I'm going home.

00:23:52.620 Chris, thank you very much for joining us. Thanks, Eric. All right.

00:23:58.600 Well, good for Saskatchewan.

00:24:01.120 With these violent, violent outbursts by the government of Saskatchewan.

00:24:05.560 Well, that's Gil McAllen's counterpart over there. 0.98

00:24:07.360 So it's good to know that their head of the labor is as crazy as ours is.

00:24:10.580 Yeah, good to know that the union movement is standing up to make sure that children can be called by incorrect pronouns without their permission.

00:24:18.440 But you notice the fast and loose use of the language here.

00:24:21.820 It is actually not violent when you say something.

00:24:26.340 Well, no.

00:24:26.840 But words are violent.

00:24:28.260 or violence you know even silence is violence but violent um writing that speech that's free speech

00:24:38.660 so you see what they've done here actual violence hurting people burning property destroying

00:24:44.580 property attacking people that's not violence that's free speech but saying something like

00:24:52.900 someone's pronouns given to them by their parents that's violence. So in all seriousness one of the

00:24:59.300 jobs as writers that we have is to try and maintain control of the language. Lord knows it's difficult

00:25:04.580 because it is intentionally twisted and turned by the activist part of society but you know when you

00:25:12.340 say something it is not violence that is when you do burn something that is we have to keep those

00:25:18.260 kinds of truths, very front and center. Yeah. Okay, well, we're going to bring in Sean Polzer now.

00:25:24.900 Sean is our energy reporter based here in our Calgary headquarters. Sean, Stephen Gilbo

00:25:33.620 headed off to China. You have to tell me if he's back yet or not. But tell us, he was going out

00:25:40.180 there to do i guess climate diplomacy they would call it with the chinese um but uh tell us uh is

00:25:48.500 he back yet and uh how has this gone so far well he actually hasn't left yet he's leaving on the

00:25:55.140 28th and uh until the 31st so it's uh i guess when's the 28th i guess that would be monday

00:26:01.460 uh tuesday in in beijing yeah okay okay so i guess i'll back up on that um but uh we've had some kind

00:26:09.140 kind of communiques from the government,

00:26:10.840 setting the table, the language they're using.

00:26:13.920 Tell us about some of the language they're using

00:26:16.700 for China when it comes to global warming issues

00:26:20.100 and then vis-a-vis the language they're using with Alberta.

00:26:26.440 Well, yeah, they seem to be taking

00:26:28.940 definitely a lot softer line on China

00:26:31.600 than they are here in Alberta,

00:26:32.840 where they're playing hard ball

00:26:34.580 with Premier Smith over the electrical grid,

00:26:38.980 even though that China, you know,

00:26:41.740 their grid is absolutely enormous,

00:26:43.200 but they get about 63% of their electricity from coal.

00:26:47.800 They burn about half the world's coal doing it.

00:26:50.780 And in fact, most of that coal that actually goes to China

00:26:54.880 flows through Vancouver.

00:26:56.300 The port of Vancouver is one of the largest coal exporting

00:27:00.360 ports, definitely in North America, but also in the world.

00:27:04.920 So it is a little bit of ironic

00:27:07.400 um and he's um a vice chair on this panel uh right next to the man that used to be the chief of staff

00:27:15.480 for xi xingping who's like number six on the communist party hierarchy and who's in charge of

00:27:22.600 administering hong kong and we all know how that's going uh you know people in hong kong are rushing

00:27:27.800 to get out basically because of all the repression that's going on so it does seem a little bit odd

00:27:34.280 you know that uh monsieur gilbo would uh take this title that that he would even accept a title on

00:27:42.280 this working board even if it is ceremonial or regardless of even what it hopes to achieve

00:27:49.160 yeah this body is i don't know how much of you guys have seen of this but it's it's an apparatus

00:27:54.520 of the communist party the chinese the ccp and gilbo has an official position on it now

00:28:01.320 Now, I mean, and all this takes place in the background of very, very serious allegations of Chinese communist interference in Canadian elections.

00:28:14.360 does is he just not seeing what we're seeing is he just like I mean in politics it can be hard

00:28:22.720 to get perspective of yourself it happens but I have a hard time seeing how Gilbo and the liberals

00:28:30.220 don't take one look at this and say at the very least this is a bad look that we're going coddling

00:28:37.040 the Chinese talking to them real nice and gentle about global warming while we're trying to crush

00:28:41.920 Alberta and Saskatchewan here. But we're going to go coddle the Chinese and join as a senior member 1.00

00:28:47.700 an apparatus of the Chinese Communist Party. Yeah, I mean, it is absolutely insane. What is 0.93

00:28:54.840 Gilboa thinking? You say, I think it's quite possible that he is a sort of a hair-shirted

00:29:00.820 idealist. Probably he doesn't see the conflict, but there are enough people in the prime minister's

00:29:05.220 office and in the Privy Council office who would absolutely see that this is a crazy thing.

00:29:11.340 they would have been warned, and they're doing it anyway.

00:29:14.320 I just want to sort of emphasize something that Sean just said there,

00:29:17.960 about the absolute irony.

00:29:20.320 They, the Liberal government, will not allow Alberta to export natural gas to China

00:29:26.400 so that China doesn't have to build so many coal-powered generating stations.

00:29:32.280 But they've got nothing to say about Roberts Bank,

00:29:34.580 where this coal is going offshore to China, to generating stations.

00:29:39.260 and apparently polluting the atmosphere.

00:29:43.620 I would add, too, Nigel, Seattle won't touch it.

00:29:47.080 So the reason a lot of that coal is coming through Vancouver

00:29:50.100 is because the American ports on the West Coast won't touch it

00:29:53.320 because they're shipping coal for electricity to China, you know.

00:30:00.320 No, it's an absolute, like, when you look at these kinds

00:30:03.960 of contradictions within government policy,

00:30:07.740 never mind within the world at large, but just within government policy, you have to wonder

00:30:11.440 what is the animating spirit within that government. Yeah. Gilbo comes by here not that

00:30:18.840 long ago to Alberta, and he refused to meet with senior energy executives who ostensibly will have

00:30:25.920 something to do with his grand plans for Alberta's energy grid, but just not interested in meeting

00:30:32.960 with them. But he'll go meet with communist butchers who are actively involved in undermining

00:30:40.320 Canadian democracy. No problem. All right. Thank you for joining us, Sean. Thank you.

00:30:49.120 You know who doesn't like Facebook? It's China. China. They don't like Facebook. Lots of censorship

00:30:55.120 on Facebook. And as you all know, we've got a lot of censorship on Facebook now. Actually,

00:31:00.640 Canada, arguably outside of probably North Korea, would have probably the most censored Facebook feed of any country on the planet, barring North Korea.

00:31:11.760 Now, it's not that the government passed a bill banning the news from Facebook.

00:31:17.140 It's that the government passed a bill that Facebook says would result in them having no choice but to censor the news from Facebook, which is what they've done.

00:31:28.140 Much to the shock of the government, Facebook did exactly what it said for the last year and a half before Bill C-18 was passed.

00:31:35.540 They did exactly what they said they would do.

00:31:38.140 And now they're trying to score points with the fires.

00:31:41.120 So Trudeau and his guys are saying, wow, we, and the CBC, the CBC in particular has got some, you know, pulling on heartstrings saying, please lift the ban on CBC for these fires in Yellowknife.

00:31:56.180 So no one in Yellowknife would know there's fires unless you can read the CBC on Facebook.

00:32:05.820 But I think what we're getting now is an admission from the government, an admission from the CBC, an admission from the Toristar and Postmedia.

00:32:13.740 All these crooks who were saying that having our links on your platforms was stealing from us.

00:32:22.860 Now they're saying not having our links on your platforms is an attack on democracy.

00:32:30.700 So I don't know.

00:32:33.020 Are they able to hear?

00:32:35.060 Can they hear themselves out loud?

00:32:37.340 They're desperate and they're floundering.

00:32:39.080 They've backed themselves in the corner and they won't back down.

00:32:41.920 I mean, they will not repeal this thing.

00:32:44.480 Meta called their bluff and said, fine, we'll stop linking.

00:32:48.380 And you know what? No matter what is coming now, even if it was just short term for an emergency and if Zuckerberg felt, oh, you know, I feel bad about this, I'll lift it just during the fire.

00:32:58.380 No, no, no, no, no. Now you're opening the door for them to extort from you.

00:33:02.400 Now you've set the precedent post bill of having those links on there.

00:33:07.480 They're not going to do it. They're not going to stick it up there.

00:33:09.980 It was an attempted shakedown. It failed.

00:33:12.900 And this government, in my view, is quite pathetically. 0.96

00:33:16.400 Let's move on to the fast and furious Freeland. 0.79

00:33:20.840 So this is a funny one.

00:33:24.100 Let's actually play the, oh, no, no, I don't think it's a video,

00:33:28.200 but she was quoted, Chrystia Freeland, Deputy Prime Minister and Finance Minister,

00:33:32.900 she was quoted in the papers saying, you know, surprise, I don't even own a car.

00:33:39.680 I live in downtown Toronto.

00:33:40.760 I don't need one.

00:33:41.460 I live close to the subway and blah, blah, blah.

00:33:44.500 Good for you.

00:33:45.580 I can see why you don't mind a carbon tax if you don't have to do much requiring carbon.

00:33:52.380 For those of us who don't live in downtown Toronto, well, life isn't quite so easy.

00:33:59.020 So I say that because the story we're going to talk about now I don't think is otherwise newsworthy.

00:34:05.740 I mean, it's not a criminal offense.

00:34:07.420 Speeding tickets are not criminal offenses.

00:34:09.420 They're provincial statute.

00:34:10.860 Now, she was going particularly high over the limit, 42 over the limit in 100 kilometer zone, according to reports.

00:34:18.180 Now, this report came from Kian Bextie at the Counter Signal.

00:34:21.440 They're an independent media outlet in Alberta.

00:34:24.600 We credit them for the story, notably Post Media, which runs the Sun Papers, National Post, the Herald Journal, all these other ones.

00:34:32.200 They use this story and they didn't credit them.

00:34:34.440 I think you should be luring up to get these guys to pay due credit.

00:34:37.920 They might not like them. They might call them all sorts of nasty names. Take someone's story. You credit them. We credit the CBC, for God's sakes, and we don't like doing it. We cringe a bit when we have to credit the CBC or TORSTAR, but that's what you do as a professional courtesy.

00:34:54.660 And in fact, it arguably might be a matter of copyright to be stealing that.

00:34:59.460 But anyway, we'll start with you, Corey.

00:35:03.080 Is it newsworthy that the deputy premier's got the pretty hefty speeding ticket up in the beach country?

00:35:08.660 Sure, there's nothing to break into the middle of a football game for with breaking news, but it's worth noting.

00:35:14.220 Unless he's driving a white Bronco and we've got the helicopter.

00:35:18.580 You know that? Okay.

00:35:19.240 She put herself on that pedestal, and this is the second time she's been slapped since putting herself on that pedestal, because the first time was when it was found the chauffeur was saying, well, yeah, but it was expenses for all these other days.

00:35:30.880 So, no, technically, she didn't need a car and she didn't drive, but she had a private chauffeured SUV on the bill of the taxpayer.

00:35:38.240 So, that makes it a little different now, doesn't it, Madam Freeland?

00:35:41.100 But now, as well with, okay, you're in Alberta.

00:35:43.900 You rented a vehicle or borrowed or presumably or something like that.

00:35:47.280 Fine.

00:35:48.420 But again, the least we would hope for is you drive it responsibly.

00:35:51.220 Do you know your fuel consumption goes up dramatically when you start speeding?

00:35:54.440 Oh, yeah.

00:35:54.900 I've heard.

00:35:55.720 I mean, I don't speed, but, you know.

00:35:57.320 She killed three polar bears on that trip.

00:35:59.100 Oh, yeah. 0.89

00:35:59.900 So hypocrisy is always newsworthy, particularly when it comes to the deputy prime minister.

00:36:04.520 This isn't just a liberal backbencher, either.

00:36:06.300 This is a very senior position.

00:36:08.540 Nigel, I don't know.

00:36:10.140 Do you think this does any chink in the armor of the liberals? 0.99

00:36:13.080 Well, no.

00:36:13.400 I think not.

00:36:14.340 No, it's been played for loss.

00:36:15.900 I'm actually, you know, I'm just going to go off message a little bit.

00:36:19.160 I'm going to say this on Christia Freeland's behalf, this and this only, and only this once.

00:36:24.920 But, you know, if she had got legitimate business up there in Peace River, then, and she probably did,

00:36:34.820 and she had ordered a government car at vast expense from the little fleet they keep in Edmonton,

00:36:42.080 that would be a story too.

00:36:44.500 you'd be getting the chauffeur's chip

00:36:46.580 and you'd be getting the mileage and you'd find

00:36:48.620 what it cost. As it was, even

00:36:50.660 if she expensed it, she just went and she

00:36:52.580 got a car from somewhere and she did what

00:36:54.580 she had to do. Maybe it was just personal

00:36:56.440 business. Actually, she's from that area.

00:36:58.360 She is from that area.

00:36:59.620 So, you know,

00:37:02.080 she was never going to win on this one.

00:37:04.300 She was either going to, what she

00:37:06.480 didn't have to do was to put the

00:37:08.540 boot down and

00:37:09.720 roll coal as we have on our little

00:37:12.780 name there.

00:37:14.020 i you know i don't care like our speed limits are too low i have i think we should actually have an

00:37:18.580 albertabon so like build out our highways enough and in the areas where it's straight and it's

00:37:25.140 level drive as fast as you want as long as we've got some good rules on the road you know slow

00:37:30.420 traffic stays right that kind of thing well watch out for deer yeah yeah yeah i gotta get a i gotta

00:37:36.180 get one of those deer cages on my truck yeah the thing is the environmentalists i mean there's

00:37:40.180 some that i respect and that's the ones that walk the walk i i think of celebrities even i think it's

00:37:45.060 ed bigley jr he he actually lives in a small house he drives he rides his bike does things he can't

00:37:51.700 versus dicaprio who's in a giant yacht who's telling us not to consume more stuff or gilbo

00:37:58.260 freeland all over the they fly around world and then when you're driving i mean i was she using

00:38:03.220 a tesla do we know she was driving we should find out what kind of car she was using because i guess 1.00

00:38:07.860 it wouldn't have been that much more in emissions if uh she was it was electric yeah well then it 0.90

00:38:12.340 would be charged through a coal generating plant up in northern Alberta you know uh i was meeting

00:38:17.460 with someone yesterday i can't say who but i i was in a meeting yesterday and uh told me a funny

00:38:22.900 story he saw it was just the last few days he saw someone driving a tesla around calgary and he says

00:38:28.580 this this was the only vanity license plate he's ever liked i thought it was good he's driving a

00:38:33.060 tesla and it said the license plate was coal-powered so he was aware and i mean like

00:38:40.340 but i've never driven a tesla but apparently they're a pretty good ride they're fast they're

00:38:44.340 powerful they're just grossly expensive but i mean if you want to drive a tesla drive a tesla just

00:38:49.860 don't think you're morally superior about it and apparently this guy that's what he was he wanted

00:38:54.100 the tesla he just didn't feel morally superior about it so kind of disclosed that yeah i'm driving

00:38:59.620 a tesla but i know what power is the tesla at the end of the day my neighbor says it's like driving

00:39:04.180 your phone so that could be a good thing or a bad thing you know i don't know give me a switch

00:39:10.260 something i can turn off and on i like to hear some vroom when i drive and it's pretty quiet

00:39:15.140 i've seen that with a i think some of the sports models of specialty they have the sounds and the

00:39:21.380 vibration because they can't get the the high-end sports cars purchases we're talking the six-figure

00:39:26.900 cars to get in. They want to feel it. So they've actually simulated it within the vehicle so they

00:39:33.860 can get that feel while they drive. Because I guess they really do pick up and go as fast as

00:39:37.240 a carbon. They're apparently a good drive. Yeah, but you just don't get that feel. So the real

00:39:41.360 expensive ones. They probably take off like a rocket. That's SpaceX. Different Elon company.

00:39:48.020 Okay, well, let's wrap it up there. Nigel, Corey, thank you for joining. It was fun.

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Western Standard - August 24, 2023

The Pipeline： Trudeau complains about Facebook

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