Western Standard - The Pipeline： Trudeau drops Emergencies Act

00:00:00.000 good evening welcome to the pipeline this is the western standards weekly news analysis show i'm

00:00:26.320 Cory Morgan. I'm the opinion editor and host of Triggered. Today I'm hosting the pipeline because

00:00:33.920 Derek Fildebrand, who typically does this, is unavailable today. As always though, I am joined

00:00:38.960 by our news editor, Dave Naylor. It's good to have somebody you can rely on at these things. Yes,

00:00:44.000 you're actually on time and ready and rolling, you know. And we have senior reporter

00:00:50.640 Melanie Risden, who wasn't quite ready on time, but we still managed to get it all together.

00:00:54.400 I'll blame it on me. Well, of course, the new one in the group is going to take the picking on.

00:01:00.960 So lots to cover as always today. So I mean, what a busy news day. It's been a total

00:01:06.720 busy news month. Yes, absolutely. But what a curveball we got thrown. I mean,

00:01:11.920 we've been framing everything. We've been writing everything. All the coverage has been

00:01:15.920 focused on the pushing of the Emergencies Act and getting it through parliament and having

00:01:21.040 that ratified and and now it's all stopped uh maybe if you can run through that dave what just

00:01:26.400 broke well it's going to be one of the biggest flip-flops in canadian political history on monday

00:01:31.840 we needed the emergencies act because these horrible truckers and they're gonna they're

00:01:36.720 gonna ruin the country take over the government uh you know fast forward to wednesday afternoon

00:01:42.640 uh the prime minister just announces that uh the emergencies act is no longer needed uh you know

00:01:49.360 the truckers have all gone home the borders are are no longer in danger of being blockaded and

00:01:55.360 if they are you know the police have the uh the measures to be able to deal with them you know

00:02:00.800 why it took the emergency act for the police to move in to begin with i guess is one of the

00:02:05.840 questions that's going to have to be answered uh premier kenny immediately lambasted trudeau

00:02:12.480 saying he had no reason at all for bringing it in and he's going to continue the alberta

00:02:16.720 court challenge against it. And Premier Scott Moe of Saskatchewan says, well, look, this is a time,

00:02:22.400 let's lift all vaccine mandates. You know, with the lifting of the Emergencies Act,

00:02:27.360 let's lift everything and get back to be in a proper country again. So it's been a whirlwind,

00:02:34.080 whirlwind few days, that's for sure. Yeah, well, Melanie, I mean, you've been

00:02:37.440 following and watching this and have to rewrite or approach things basically as you go. What do

00:02:41.840 you think perhaps motivated this sudden turnaround? I mean, something that we need so desperately bad

00:02:46.480 on monday night that we had to put the country on edge and now uh okay i guess we'll just drop it

00:02:51.760 well i think the pushback has been huge i think uh especially when it comes to um you know all

00:02:58.720 the stories around what transpired in in ottawa over the weekend uh you know with with there being

00:03:06.880 a lot of um stories of people being injured and hurt and uh you know uh the stories that we we

00:03:14.080 published about the RCMP having you know comments sort of a hidden conversation that we became aware

00:03:23.120 of that showed you know they were sort of celebrating the fact that people had been

00:03:26.880 trampled by a horse and so I think there's just been a real perhaps shift in in people's perception

00:03:34.560 of this uh you know bank accounts being frozen I mean we're hearing we were hearing stories about

00:03:39.440 people who donated $50, somebody bought a t-shirt for $20 and had a bank account, you know, frozen.

00:03:47.280 I think a lot of people are really realizing, and I think, you know, Trudeau is somebody who seems

00:03:54.960 to like to go with, you know, public opinion, he seems to be drawn to that. And so with the tides

00:04:01.680 shifting, with there being what feels like a real push against this overreach from the government,

00:04:08.720 I think he realized pretty quickly.

00:04:11.280 Plus, I think there are a couple of lawsuits against the government.

00:04:14.500 I guarantee you the Liberals have been doing some internal polling.

00:04:18.600 And the numbers they were getting were terrible, absolutely terrible.

00:04:23.160 The debate, interestingly, is still going on in the Senate.

00:04:26.620 They told the Senate, look, we have all this proof that there was sedition going on,

00:04:31.160 but they refused to show the Senate any of their proof.

00:04:35.040 So a lot of the Senate was not very happy.

00:04:37.460 so there was even grumblings that it may not get through the senate and that's why trudeau put a

00:04:42.340 quick end to it so but you know a combination of maybe that and internal polling and just a

00:04:47.500 tremendous uh outcry of distaste for this whole thing there was one liberal senator who did come

00:04:54.200 out actually liberal appointed senator because they have that facade of being independent and

00:04:58.200 he said he's not going to support this emergencies act and that could have been perhaps an indicator

00:05:02.460 that this might not pass the senate that would be a terrific embarrassment for the prime minister

00:05:06.220 if this got shut down in the Senate.

00:05:08.880 Oh, absolutely.

00:05:11.420 It would seem that that's one of the main reasons he was worried about it.

00:05:15.460 Because, you know, that's the only reason that it would explain such an extraordinary flip-flop, surely.

00:05:21.100 You were saying, Melanie?

00:05:22.200 Well, I thought, you know, it was kind of an interesting vote when it came to Monday's vote

00:05:29.780 being you know uh sort of determined to be more of a non-confidence vote or you know what I mean

00:05:38.280 like it oh they never even would say if it was confidence or not and they're playing coy with

00:05:42.960 the process and that again I think upset the public you know if you're looking I think you're

00:05:47.100 getting sentiment that arrogance that uh refusal to answer questions I mean you're asking us to

00:05:52.080 embrace something huge and unprecedented and you won't answer the question you said with the senate

00:05:55.620 they won't say what their evidence is and they won't even say if it's a confidence vote or not

00:05:59.100 Yeah, the transparency, I think, has been an issue for sure all along in this.

00:06:03.500 But even, you know, knowing full well that MPs, liberal MPs,

00:06:07.700 were coming out against it as well before the vote,

00:06:11.860 but then they voted for it, sort of.

00:06:14.480 Yeah, on the basis of the confidence.

00:06:16.420 Of the confidence, yeah.

00:06:18.040 But certainly the NDP supported it all in.

00:06:20.940 What's this going to do for their political fortunes?

00:06:22.920 Well, and I do want to move on to that next.

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00:07:43.440 Yes, the NDP.

00:07:44.400 I mean, of the biggest political losers, I think, go to this fiasco.

00:07:47.560 I mean, Trudeau's looking weak.

00:07:48.920 But Jagmeet Singh hitched his wagon to him.

00:07:50.940 He ate a lot of political, or he's eating a lot of political crow right now.

00:07:55.460 I'm sure a lot of his members were not happy in getting up and supporting Justin Trudeau with

00:07:59.540 this. He had to whip his vote into shape. Now he's left hanging. He went through all of that

00:08:04.800 for something that didn't even make it two full days. What are the implications of that, Dave?

00:08:09.720 Well, it's devastating for the NDP. If you remember back in the 70s, Tommy Douglas voted

00:08:17.260 against Trudeau Sr. invoking the act. And I think a lot of old-time, old-time NDPers were

00:08:24.840 very disappointed to see Jagmeet go along with Justin as emergency act. So, you know, there's

00:08:32.620 already rumblings that started before this of internal squabbles and some leadership threats

00:08:39.700 to Jagmeet Singh. So it'll be interesting to see whether those are amplified in the coming days.

00:08:46.100 Certainly a, certainly a mistake on his part, no doubt.

00:08:49.520 Yeah.

00:08:49.800 So what do you read out of it, Melanie?

00:08:51.200 You know, with the NDPs, more traditional stand, like for the little guy, for the working

00:08:54.820 man, they're looking for individual rights.

00:08:56.120 And, well, they kind of stepped away from that and they burned.

00:08:59.820 Yeah.

00:09:00.180 It, to me, it just didn't seem like the right fit.

00:09:02.760 It, right from inception, right from what the, the emergencies act stood for it, you

00:09:08.380 know, it, it, it's almost an attack on the working class in, in an essence.

00:09:13.340 So it seemed it seemed like a strange fit. I don't know what promises or deals were made behind closed doors between the two parties.

00:09:23.480 You know, but I think you're right. They're they're kind of left holding a lot of nothing now.

00:09:29.020 Yeah. Well, that fear of going to the polls, I'm sure was a lot of what motivated Jagmeet Singh.

00:09:32.780 Their party is not in good condition to go into another election, whether you like NDP or not.

00:09:37.900 I mean, they haven't really had a leader who's engaged the public well since Jack Layton.

00:09:41.920 And, you know, Mulcair didn't quite inflame the world.

00:09:45.220 Singh's been kind of lackluster.

00:09:47.940 They've been losing support in general.

00:09:50.320 And I got a feeling that threat, you know, if it had been Jack Layton,

00:09:52.900 it looked like, hey, we might pick up 20 seats if he pulls the rug out from under us.

00:09:55.860 He might have taken a stand of principle.

00:09:57.840 It's all speculation.

00:09:58.780 But to say, you know, no, we don't want to go down that road.

00:10:01.840 When your leader is wearing $1,000 suits and Rolex watches

00:10:06.140 and is accepting multi-thousand dollar rocking chairs,

00:10:10.100 It doesn't really say working man's party, does it?

00:10:13.680 No, that's a champagne socialist.

00:10:15.120 Champagne socialist, as he's being described.

00:10:19.360 How far away from the party's roots are they going to let him go?

00:10:23.280 No, I mean, the internal, you know, they're wearing all of that too.

00:10:26.880 I mean, they lined up the troops.

00:10:28.960 They got behind Singh, but I think grudgingly so.

00:10:31.780 And then when you take one for the team and then suddenly you land flat,

00:10:34.920 the leader is going to take a lot of flack.

00:10:37.180 seeing a year when we're seeing so many leaders torn down i mean if i was an ambitious ndp person

00:10:42.680 looking this is where you want to make your move i mean the conservatives are without a leader

00:10:46.460 they're going to a leadership race this would be the time perhaps to turn over the leadership of

00:10:50.960 the ndp and seek somebody new in that spot as well we might see some some coverage i think in

00:10:54.900 this next couple of days nice to get some fresh faces and i don't know it would it certainly would

00:11:00.560 as a stale old place it is either way we'll cover that more as it develops i mean this is just

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00:12:13.080 mess, we've got something that hasn't been getting all over the news and it should be has been that

00:12:18.900 act of eco-terrorism out in BC. I mean, this should be headlined. If anything might draw

00:12:23.760 the government to bring in emergency sort of actions, you would think such an organized

00:12:28.340 attack on a worksite would draw it. What exactly happened? Now we're starting to see videos, Dave.

00:12:33.840 This was a frightening event, Corey, at the Coastal Glass GasLink pipeline in northern BC.

00:12:41.480 An attack by up to 20 people armed with axes, all dressed in those white forensic police

00:12:49.320 garbed uniforms, you know, came out of the bush and attacked vehicles and people on a logging

00:12:58.160 road up to the construction site. Buses were set on fire with workers still in them.

00:13:06.620 The footage shows these guys inside vehicles just hammering on them with accidents.

00:13:12.480 We had an interview with a guy called Trevor, who was at the site, and just he described,

00:13:17.740 You know, it's under terror having somebody, a maniac with an axe wielding, you know, at you.

00:13:24.740 And he describes his terror, and it's just unbelievable.

00:13:28.800 What's just as unbelievable is some of the mainstream media coverage.

00:13:33.460 Some of them are alleging that the attack, A, didn't even take place, where B, was probably set up by the company.

00:13:40.600 And then, you know, after one story, then it quickly fell off the news, off their news agenda.

00:13:50.000 To me, Trudeau hasn't even commented on it.

00:13:53.260 You know, that's how wrong he is in this one.

00:13:56.000 He hasn't even commented about it.

00:13:57.640 The case of domestic eco-terrorism on his watch, no comment whatsoever.

00:14:02.780 Somehow all these 20 people are able to vanish into thin air.

00:14:07.780 You know, nobody's seen or heard from them since.

00:14:11.820 You know, this is the type of thing that should be on the top of everybody's tongue,

00:14:15.740 not a bunch of truckers with a bouncy castle.

00:14:18.280 Yeah, well, just for the sake of accuracy, whoever runs Trudeau's Twitter account did put one out

00:14:22.300 saying they always condemn violent actions and wouldn't support something like this.

00:14:25.980 But that was the extent of it, and it was a tweet, and there were no spelling errors.

00:14:29.960 So it probably wasn't Justin himself.

00:14:31.600 It was probably an aide.

00:14:33.140 But again, I mean, this is of a serious, serious concern.

00:14:36.180 I mean, Melanie, have you seen much for coverage out there on this?

00:14:39.780 No, I actually haven't seen very much for coverage on it. I was speaking with

00:14:45.220 one of the lawyers that I speak with on a fairly regular basis, and he's been speaking with,

00:14:51.700 he has some military background and he has a lot of cohorts and friends who also came from military

00:14:59.700 background. And he said, you know, they've discussed this. It seemed very orchestrated.

00:15:05.260 It seemed very well, precise, planned. They knew what they were doing. You know, when we're talking

00:15:12.240 about terrorism, when we're talking about eco-terrorism, he said, this is it for sure.

00:15:16.160 This is, this was, this was, you know, they had strategies that the military will use when they

00:15:22.300 are infiltrating areas and whatnot. He had some pretty interesting things to say about

00:15:30.280 how terrifying this action actually is in our country and the fact that it has had such a

00:15:39.280 little response, if any, from the government. And, you know, again, from lack of media coverage,

00:15:46.020 it's kind of astonishing. Maybe this group of 20 all went to the David Suzuki summer camp on how

00:15:51.780 to blow up pipelines.

00:15:52.820 No one knows.

00:15:53.540 I mean, that's where they learn their tactics from.

00:15:55.460 And we'll seize accounts and do things for anybody.

00:15:57.580 Looks like they're supporting a bouncy castle convoy.

00:16:01.060 But David Suzuki, you talk about blowing up pipelines.

00:16:03.400 Oh, I misspoke.

00:16:04.640 Come on, guys.

00:16:05.560 I mean, that's exactly the sort of thing gets inflamed when a public figure like him,

00:16:09.360 you know, misspeaks on garbage, like talk about blowing up pipelines.

00:16:13.080 He didn't misspeak.

00:16:14.080 No, not at all.

00:16:15.480 And it was chilling, I mean, to see that.

00:16:18.360 This is different.

00:16:18.840 I mean, we've seen crazed protesters rushing police lines or carrying out vandalism.

00:16:24.500 And, you know, they're usually a bunch of hippies and weirdos who go running out in a disorganized way.

00:16:29.420 They can cause damage. They can be dangerous.

00:16:30.780 But this this was something altogether different. 0.99

00:16:33.260 I mean, uniformed like that.

00:16:34.820 The timing, I don't think, was a mistake either.

00:16:36.940 Do you think it's a coincidence that when Trudeau pulled half of the RCP all into Ottawa, they don't have any more field units going on?

00:16:43.100 These guys choose this time, not to mention, they block the road with burning trees and spikes and all sorts of stuff so that police couldn't get in.

00:16:51.140 And then shot flares at them.

00:16:53.440 You know, we've got a terrorist group shooting flares at the police.

00:16:56.460 Like, where are the helicopters?

00:16:58.800 Where are the tracking dogs, as Jay Hill of the Maverick Party said.

00:17:02.660 And millions of dollars damaged.

00:17:04.420 There just doesn't seem to be any concerted effort.

00:17:08.440 Maybe there's stuff going on behind the scenes that we don't know about.

00:17:11.420 There doesn't seem to be any concerted effort.

00:17:14.100 Maybe let's bring in an extra 100 RCMP officers to this now.

00:17:18.320 Now that they're not clearing bouncy castles away, we can focus on an actual terrorist attack and maybe do some investigating and find these people.

00:17:26.420 Well, that's it, because not one of them has been caught.

00:17:28.840 And this, you know, people looked at the turned over machinery and things like that.

00:17:31.880 Some of the conspiracy theorists point out, well, you'd never be able to do that with an axe.

00:17:34.320 No.

00:17:34.620 And we talked about that earlier.

00:17:35.740 Like I used to work in the oil field.

00:17:38.000 When you're in a winter camp location, you got diesel equipment.

00:17:41.100 There's nowhere to plug it in.

00:17:42.660 You know, it's just not like in the city.

00:17:45.140 If you freeze a diesel, it's not getting started again.

00:17:47.080 So what you do is turn it on a high idle and you leave it running all night.

00:17:50.460 And I imagine, I'm just guessing, but this would make sense to me because you could tell,

00:17:54.440 I mean, there were big pieces of equipment that were turned over and smashed.

00:17:57.100 You need another big piece of equipment to do that.

00:17:59.380 Somebody broke into a large piece, but an axe, you could do that.

00:18:02.840 You could smack the windows out, get inside.

00:18:04.700 It's idling, it's warm, it's ready to roll.

00:18:06.500 And then they attack.

00:18:07.200 You can see they attack.

00:18:08.180 Work trailers were ripped apart.

00:18:09.980 Again, somebody could have been in those trailers.

00:18:12.020 Somebody could have been between that machine and another machine.

00:18:14.360 It's almost a wonder that somebody didn't get killed.

00:18:16.860 And these guys, not one was caught.

00:18:18.480 They're not going to stop where they're at.

00:18:19.660 Not somebody that organized and that extreme.

00:18:21.580 This is going to happen again.

00:18:22.980 As you said, we haven't heard anything about it.

00:18:24.500 I imagine and hope the police are working on this somewhere, even if we're not seeing it.

00:18:28.720 Let's hope it doesn't take a worker getting killed.

00:18:31.840 And, you know, setting a bus on fire with workers inside it, that could have led to, you know, multiple deaths.

00:18:38.020 Well, and these extremists, and they're extreme.

00:18:39.720 I mean, this is eco-terrorism, as we've said, and they might have it in mind.

00:18:42.620 We saw that with, well, it was a union action, but at the giant mine, I mean, they were willing to kill people for their cause.

00:18:48.480 In this case, these activists might feel that if we need to kill somebody to save Mother Earth, maybe that's what it'll take. 0.99

00:18:55.540 I mean, it's scary to think, but some people, you know, there's some pretty wacko people out there, and they'll go to extremes. 0.99

00:19:00.440 you know we've got such a bizarro world going on in Canada where we've got I mean a very 1.00

00:19:05.420 exceedingly peaceful protest of thousands and the government has imposed the strongest legislative

00:19:10.100 measures they possibly could upon them and then we've had a literal act of eco-terrorism and we

00:19:15.320 barely see a peep. I think I'll assign our BC reporter Reed Small to get a hold of Dr. Suzuki

00:19:21.980 and see what he has to say about this latest incident. Well from what I've heard you know

00:19:27.260 tell Reed to lighten his voice and everything

00:19:29.300 because Dr. Suzuki does like the young ladies

00:19:31.340 quite a bit. He might be more receptive to a

00:19:33.300 candid phone call.

00:19:35.040 Do what you can. When's Derek

00:19:37.180 coming back?

00:19:39.600 Hey, I'm just talking. You got to do

00:19:41.300 what you got to do to get the news. Absolutely.

00:19:43.320 Maybe that's why I'm an opinion.

00:19:45.640 Oh, well, either way.

00:19:47.760 Leave the news to the professionals, Corey.

00:19:49.820 That's what I'm... Stick to your rants.

00:19:51.760 Yes, I think I'd better do that

00:19:53.440 before we get pulled off the air or something.

00:19:55.080 All right. Well, that was, you know, enough to summarize. You guys have got a lot of work to

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Western Standard - February 24, 2022

The Pipeline： Trudeau drops Emergencies Act

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