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This week, Cory and Dave are joined by senior reporter Melanie Risden to discuss the Trudeau government's decision to lift the emergency act that had been in effect since Monday morning. They also discuss the impact of the Supreme Court decision to strike down the emergency order, and the pushback from Saskatchewan and other provinces.
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good evening welcome to the pipeline this is the western standards weekly news analysis show i'm
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Cory Morgan. I'm the opinion editor and host of Triggered. Today I'm hosting the pipeline because
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Derek Fildebrand, who typically does this, is unavailable today. As always though, I am joined
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by our news editor, Dave Naylor. It's good to have somebody you can rely on at these things. Yes,
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you're actually on time and ready and rolling, you know. And we have senior reporter
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Melanie Risden, who wasn't quite ready on time, but we still managed to get it all together.
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I'll blame it on me. Well, of course, the new one in the group is going to take the picking on.
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So lots to cover as always today. So I mean, what a busy news day. It's been a total
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busy news month. Yes, absolutely. But what a curveball we got thrown. I mean,
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we've been framing everything. We've been writing everything. All the coverage has been
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focused on the pushing of the Emergencies Act and getting it through parliament and having
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that ratified and and now it's all stopped uh maybe if you can run through that dave what just
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broke well it's going to be one of the biggest flip-flops in canadian political history on monday
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we needed the emergencies act because these horrible truckers and they're gonna they're
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gonna ruin the country take over the government uh you know fast forward to wednesday afternoon
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uh the prime minister just announces that uh the emergencies act is no longer needed uh you know
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the truckers have all gone home the borders are are no longer in danger of being blockaded and
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if they are you know the police have the uh the measures to be able to deal with them you know
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why it took the emergency act for the police to move in to begin with i guess is one of the
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questions that's going to have to be answered uh premier kenny immediately lambasted trudeau
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saying he had no reason at all for bringing it in and he's going to continue the alberta
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court challenge against it. And Premier Scott Moe of Saskatchewan says, well, look, this is a time,
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let's lift all vaccine mandates. You know, with the lifting of the Emergencies Act,
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let's lift everything and get back to be in a proper country again. So it's been a whirlwind,
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whirlwind few days, that's for sure. Yeah, well, Melanie, I mean, you've been
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following and watching this and have to rewrite or approach things basically as you go. What do
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you think perhaps motivated this sudden turnaround? I mean, something that we need so desperately bad
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on monday night that we had to put the country on edge and now uh okay i guess we'll just drop it
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well i think the pushback has been huge i think uh especially when it comes to um you know all
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the stories around what transpired in in ottawa over the weekend uh you know with with there being
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a lot of um stories of people being injured and hurt and uh you know uh the stories that we we
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published about the RCMP having you know comments sort of a hidden conversation that we became aware
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of that showed you know they were sort of celebrating the fact that people had been
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trampled by a horse and so I think there's just been a real perhaps shift in in people's perception
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of this uh you know bank accounts being frozen I mean we're hearing we were hearing stories about
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people who donated $50, somebody bought a t-shirt for $20 and had a bank account, you know, frozen.
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I think a lot of people are really realizing, and I think, you know, Trudeau is somebody who seems
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to like to go with, you know, public opinion, he seems to be drawn to that. And so with the tides
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shifting, with there being what feels like a real push against this overreach from the government,
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Plus, I think there are a couple of lawsuits against the government.
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I guarantee you the Liberals have been doing some internal polling.
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And the numbers they were getting were terrible, absolutely terrible.
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The debate, interestingly, is still going on in the Senate.
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They told the Senate, look, we have all this proof that there was sedition going on,
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but they refused to show the Senate any of their proof.
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so there was even grumblings that it may not get through the senate and that's why trudeau put a
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quick end to it so but you know a combination of maybe that and internal polling and just a
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tremendous uh outcry of distaste for this whole thing there was one liberal senator who did come
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out actually liberal appointed senator because they have that facade of being independent and
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he said he's not going to support this emergencies act and that could have been perhaps an indicator
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that this might not pass the senate that would be a terrific embarrassment for the prime minister
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It would seem that that's one of the main reasons he was worried about it.
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Because, you know, that's the only reason that it would explain such an extraordinary flip-flop, surely.
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Well, I thought, you know, it was kind of an interesting vote when it came to Monday's vote
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being you know uh sort of determined to be more of a non-confidence vote or you know what I mean
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like it oh they never even would say if it was confidence or not and they're playing coy with
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the process and that again I think upset the public you know if you're looking I think you're
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getting sentiment that arrogance that uh refusal to answer questions I mean you're asking us to
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embrace something huge and unprecedented and you won't answer the question you said with the senate
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they won't say what their evidence is and they won't even say if it's a confidence vote or not
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Yeah, the transparency, I think, has been an issue for sure all along in this.
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But even, you know, knowing full well that MPs, liberal MPs,
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I mean, of the biggest political losers, I think, go to this fiasco.
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He ate a lot of political, or he's eating a lot of political crow right now.
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I'm sure a lot of his members were not happy in getting up and supporting Justin Trudeau with
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this. He had to whip his vote into shape. Now he's left hanging. He went through all of that
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for something that didn't even make it two full days. What are the implications of that, Dave?
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Well, it's devastating for the NDP. If you remember back in the 70s, Tommy Douglas voted
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against Trudeau Sr. invoking the act. And I think a lot of old-time, old-time NDPers were
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very disappointed to see Jagmeet go along with Justin as emergency act. So, you know, there's
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already rumblings that started before this of internal squabbles and some leadership threats
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to Jagmeet Singh. So it'll be interesting to see whether those are amplified in the coming days.
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Certainly a, certainly a mistake on his part, no doubt.
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You know, with the NDPs, more traditional stand, like for the little guy, for the working
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And, well, they kind of stepped away from that and they burned.
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It, to me, it just didn't seem like the right fit.
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It, right from inception, right from what the, the emergencies act stood for it, you
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know, it, it, it's almost an attack on the working class in, in an essence.
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So it seemed it seemed like a strange fit. I don't know what promises or deals were made behind closed doors between the two parties.
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You know, but I think you're right. They're they're kind of left holding a lot of nothing now.
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Yeah. Well, that fear of going to the polls, I'm sure was a lot of what motivated Jagmeet Singh.
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Their party is not in good condition to go into another election, whether you like NDP or not.
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I mean, they haven't really had a leader who's engaged the public well since Jack Layton.
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And, you know, Mulcair didn't quite inflame the world.
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And I got a feeling that threat, you know, if it had been Jack Layton,
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it looked like, hey, we might pick up 20 seats if he pulls the rug out from under us.
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But to say, you know, no, we don't want to go down that road.
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When your leader is wearing $1,000 suits and Rolex watches
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and is accepting multi-thousand dollar rocking chairs,
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It doesn't really say working man's party, does it?
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How far away from the party's roots are they going to let him go?
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No, I mean, the internal, you know, they're wearing all of that too.
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They got behind Singh, but I think grudgingly so.
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And then when you take one for the team and then suddenly you land flat,
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seeing a year when we're seeing so many leaders torn down i mean if i was an ambitious ndp person
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looking this is where you want to make your move i mean the conservatives are without a leader
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they're going to a leadership race this would be the time perhaps to turn over the leadership of
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the ndp and seek somebody new in that spot as well we might see some some coverage i think in
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this next couple of days nice to get some fresh faces and i don't know it would it certainly would
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as a stale old place it is either way we'll cover that more as it develops i mean this is just
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mess, we've got something that hasn't been getting all over the news and it should be has been that
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act of eco-terrorism out in BC. I mean, this should be headlined. If anything might draw
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the government to bring in emergency sort of actions, you would think such an organized
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attack on a worksite would draw it. What exactly happened? Now we're starting to see videos, Dave.
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This was a frightening event, Corey, at the Coastal Glass GasLink pipeline in northern BC.
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An attack by up to 20 people armed with axes, all dressed in those white forensic police
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garbed uniforms, you know, came out of the bush and attacked vehicles and people on a logging
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road up to the construction site. Buses were set on fire with workers still in them.
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The footage shows these guys inside vehicles just hammering on them with accidents.
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We had an interview with a guy called Trevor, who was at the site, and just he described,
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You know, it's under terror having somebody, a maniac with an axe wielding, you know, at you.
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And he describes his terror, and it's just unbelievable.
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What's just as unbelievable is some of the mainstream media coverage.
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Some of them are alleging that the attack, A, didn't even take place, where B, was probably set up by the company.
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And then, you know, after one story, then it quickly fell off the news, off their news agenda.
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The case of domestic eco-terrorism on his watch, no comment whatsoever.
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Somehow all these 20 people are able to vanish into thin air.
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You know, nobody's seen or heard from them since.
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You know, this is the type of thing that should be on the top of everybody's tongue,
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Yeah, well, just for the sake of accuracy, whoever runs Trudeau's Twitter account did put one out
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saying they always condemn violent actions and wouldn't support something like this.
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But that was the extent of it, and it was a tweet, and there were no spelling errors.
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But again, I mean, this is of a serious, serious concern.
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I mean, Melanie, have you seen much for coverage out there on this?
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No, I actually haven't seen very much for coverage on it. I was speaking with
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one of the lawyers that I speak with on a fairly regular basis, and he's been speaking with,
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he has some military background and he has a lot of cohorts and friends who also came from military
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background. And he said, you know, they've discussed this. It seemed very orchestrated.
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It seemed very well, precise, planned. They knew what they were doing. You know, when we're talking
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about terrorism, when we're talking about eco-terrorism, he said, this is it for sure.
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This is, this was, this was, you know, they had strategies that the military will use when they
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are infiltrating areas and whatnot. He had some pretty interesting things to say about
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how terrifying this action actually is in our country and the fact that it has had such a
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little response, if any, from the government. And, you know, again, from lack of media coverage,
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it's kind of astonishing. Maybe this group of 20 all went to the David Suzuki summer camp on how
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I mean, that's where they learn their tactics from.
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And we'll seize accounts and do things for anybody.
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Looks like they're supporting a bouncy castle convoy.
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But David Suzuki, you talk about blowing up pipelines.
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I mean, that's exactly the sort of thing gets inflamed when a public figure like him,
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you know, misspeaks on garbage, like talk about blowing up pipelines.
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I mean, we've seen crazed protesters rushing police lines or carrying out vandalism.
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And, you know, they're usually a bunch of hippies and weirdos who go running out in a disorganized way.
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But this this was something altogether different.
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The timing, I don't think, was a mistake either.
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Do you think it's a coincidence that when Trudeau pulled half of the RCP all into Ottawa, they don't have any more field units going on?
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These guys choose this time, not to mention, they block the road with burning trees and spikes and all sorts of stuff so that police couldn't get in.
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You know, we've got a terrorist group shooting flares at the police.
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Where are the tracking dogs, as Jay Hill of the Maverick Party said.
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There just doesn't seem to be any concerted effort.
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Maybe there's stuff going on behind the scenes that we don't know about.
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Maybe let's bring in an extra 100 RCMP officers to this now.
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Now that they're not clearing bouncy castles away, we can focus on an actual terrorist attack and maybe do some investigating and find these people.
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Well, that's it, because not one of them has been caught.
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And this, you know, people looked at the turned over machinery and things like that.
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Some of the conspiracy theorists point out, well, you'd never be able to do that with an axe.
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When you're in a winter camp location, you got diesel equipment.
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If you freeze a diesel, it's not getting started again.
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So what you do is turn it on a high idle and you leave it running all night.
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And I imagine, I'm just guessing, but this would make sense to me because you could tell,
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I mean, there were big pieces of equipment that were turned over and smashed.
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You need another big piece of equipment to do that.
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Somebody broke into a large piece, but an axe, you could do that.
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Again, somebody could have been in those trailers.
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Somebody could have been between that machine and another machine.
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It's almost a wonder that somebody didn't get killed.
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As you said, we haven't heard anything about it.
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I imagine and hope the police are working on this somewhere, even if we're not seeing it.
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Let's hope it doesn't take a worker getting killed.
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And, you know, setting a bus on fire with workers inside it, that could have led to, you know, multiple deaths.
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Well, and these extremists, and they're extreme.
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I mean, this is eco-terrorism, as we've said, and they might have it in mind.
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We saw that with, well, it was a union action, but at the giant mine, I mean, they were willing to kill people for their cause.
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In this case, these activists might feel that if we need to kill somebody to save Mother Earth, maybe that's what it'll take.
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I mean, it's scary to think, but some people, you know, there's some pretty wacko people out there, and they'll go to extremes.
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you know we've got such a bizarro world going on in Canada where we've got I mean a very
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exceedingly peaceful protest of thousands and the government has imposed the strongest legislative
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measures they possibly could upon them and then we've had a literal act of eco-terrorism and we
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barely see a peep. I think I'll assign our BC reporter Reed Small to get a hold of Dr. Suzuki
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and see what he has to say about this latest incident. Well from what I've heard you know
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what you got to do to get the news. Absolutely.
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All right. Well, that was, you know, enough to summarize. You guys have got a lot of work to
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