Western Standard - June 16, 2022


The Pipelineļ¼š Trudeau retreats on vax mandates


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00:00:00.000 Good day. Today is June 15th, 2022. I'm Derek Fildebrandt, publisher of the Western Standard, and you're watching The Pipeline.
00:00:27.400 Joining me, as always, is the lovely Dave Naylor, Western Standard News Editor.
00:00:31.780 How are you, Dave?
00:00:32.540 I'm good. The sun has broken free for at least a few minutes, so...
00:00:36.180 A little bit.
00:00:36.660 We might get a break from the rain for an hour or two. 0.99
00:00:38.780 It's been biblical.
00:00:39.660 Biblical. 0.55
00:00:40.140 Positively biblical.
00:00:41.260 A guy who knows his Bible very well.
00:00:43.000 Corey Morgan, Western Standard Opinion and Broadcast Editor.
00:00:45.320 How are you?
00:00:46.180 Just great. I'm looking forward to breaking out my summer wear.
00:00:50.160 There you go. All right.
00:00:51.780 Yeah, it's been pretty soggy around here.
00:00:53.880 We've got a brief break for the moment.
00:00:56.540 All right, well, today we're going to be talking about the partial end of federal vaccine mandates.
00:01:04.460 Justin Trudeau retreating on the federal mandates.
00:01:07.500 Of course, some mandates still in place.
00:01:09.300 We're going to talk about that and what is taking so bloody long in Ottawa to get with the rest of Justin Trudeau's friends across the rest of the world.
00:01:19.800 Also, the United Conservative Party of Alberta has finally set a date for its leadership race.
00:01:25.000 That's, oh jeez, I mean, no, I didn't.
00:01:27.000 October 6th.
00:01:27.820 October 6th.
00:01:28.920 That's a, I should have written that one down.
00:01:31.080 October 6th.
00:01:32.160 But they've also set the entry fee to enter.
00:01:35.820 And boy, that is, that is a, that's a pricey ballot access right there.
00:01:41.360 So we're going to talk about what the date means and the high entry fee is going to mean
00:01:47.480 for the strategy around this.
00:01:49.440 Is it going to weed out a lot of candidates?
00:01:51.300 How is that going to affect the way the race is looking?
00:01:53.800 selecting the next Conservative leader in Alberta
00:01:55.440 and obviously the next Premier here.
00:01:58.180 Before we get going, though,
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00:03:24.720 Breaking the biggest stories, the best inside scoops, providing independent, bailout-free
00:03:30.480 media for Westerners. So let's jump into it. Just the other day, Justin Trudeau announces
00:03:37.840 a partial rollback of remaining federal restrictions, but not everything. Dave,
00:03:43.380 tell us what is it that is changing and what is not changing?
00:03:46.800 And isn't the timing suspicious, Derek?
00:03:49.500 As you know, airports are being bunged up for weeks now.
00:03:52.800 Three-hour lineups get to the airport three hours early, they keep saying.
00:03:56.720 There's no staff there and all the COVID regulations.
00:04:00.120 So Trudeau flies back on Sunday from Summit of the Americas and tests positive for COVID.
00:04:06.700 Highly illegal, traveling with COVID.
00:04:09.780 So the next day, the government announces they are withdrawing some of the COVID mandates on airfare.
00:04:16.800 you can now fly domestically it's not necessary if the prime minister could fly with exactly
00:04:21.920 even in his private jet uh so you can now fly domestically without uh proving that you've had
00:04:27.120 a cold vaccination uh you can leave the country now without proving uh that you've had the
00:04:32.640 vaccination um you know so it's good news for travelers in some ways bad news for truckers
00:04:39.120 they're still very bad people uh they have to quarantine for 14 days and if they cross the
00:04:45.040 the border. Truckers are causing nothing but problems. So if they come back from hauling
00:04:50.280 some fruit up from the States, they have to go into quarantine for 14 days. So that's messing
00:04:57.060 up the supply chain right there. So still no end in sight for the truckers, but a little bit of
00:05:01.860 breathing space for air travelers, but you still have to wear the mask on that plane. 1.00
00:05:07.660 Well, I think there still are some mandates in place against the unvaccinated. They still can't 1.00
00:05:12.840 fly back to Canada without a quarantine that the unvaccinated, uh, so that the, uh, the double
00:05:18.880 vaccinated are, are required to. So if you, if you've got family overseas as I do, and they want 0.96
00:05:23.960 to come back, uh, you know, I'm going to a family college this summer. Uh, you know, my sister,
00:05:28.840 little sister wants to come back. Well, she's got to sit in a COVID jail for two weeks before she's
00:05:33.300 allowed to go to the cottage. Cause you know, the cottage is so full of people in civilization
00:05:37.460 sitting there. Super spreader event. Yeah, yeah. Okay, Corey, this seems like a very,
00:05:46.180 very, very long time coming. Of course, not all gone. But what do you think he's finally caved?
00:05:52.880 You know, the conservatives have been banging away at this in question period. They put forward
00:05:56.860 motions to lift restrictions. I think liberals with their NDP allies voted it down just days
00:06:04.160 before, maybe even just the day before, if I'm not mistaken. And then, and then they've switched
00:06:08.120 here. Well, what changed? I think Trudeau's infection was incidental and may have contributed
00:06:12.180 towards this, but I think it was actually, I'll give some credit to Ryan Watson with that spit
00:06:17.220 and chickless podcast, who was live tweeting his experience at Pearson airport that went viral. I
00:06:22.180 mean, hundreds of thousands of people saw this and saw the video of the lineups, the ridiculousness,
00:06:28.260 hours in line, people turning away. I mean, it embarrassed, as so often happens, the country
00:06:32.600 was embarrassed. And he was outright saying, do not come to Canada. Do not come to Pearson
00:06:37.040 International Airport, whatever you do, because this is a mess. And that's what it takes with
00:06:42.600 this government when they get embarrassed and their back is against the wall. I mean, a week
00:06:46.800 ago, they said the science said that it supports keeping these mandates. Today, they're literally
00:06:50.420 saying the science supports getting rid of them.
00:06:52.100 Oh, it was that morning. That morning, they held a press conference to say that, you know,
00:06:56.260 keep the mandates. And then all of a sudden, the afternoon, you know, they threw all their
00:07:00.180 helped people under the bus.
00:07:01.820 The sign changed at lunchtime.
00:07:03.500 Apparently, yeah, it went in on lunch break.
00:07:05.300 But you're right, though.
00:07:05.920 I think when Whitney did that thing saying
00:07:08.040 Pearson was hell on earth, that just went
00:07:10.320 so viral that they
00:07:12.280 must have been embarrassed.
00:07:14.160 I understand that they were getting a lot of
00:07:16.240 pressure from actual liberal
00:07:18.100 MPs. A large number
00:07:20.060 in the caucus was saying, look,
00:07:22.260 enough's enough. We're looking stupid here.
00:07:24.620 And people got to see a real impact.
00:07:26.460 We've suffered a bit from that tyranny of the majority.
00:07:28.320 Okay, 86% of Canadians had both vaccinations, so they didn't have any hindrance to the traveling.
00:07:33.640 And a lot of them, unfortunately, they don't think of the rights of others.
00:07:36.140 It's just the way it goes.
00:07:37.000 But it's like, well, it doesn't bother me, so I don't really care.
00:07:39.480 But now that they see the havoc this is wreaking outside of there and it's just hitting everybody, now it's a wake-up call. 0.82
00:07:46.140 It's not just that remaining 16% of unvaccinated.
00:07:49.080 This is bothering everybody.
00:07:50.500 And the other angle is for federal workers.
00:07:52.740 They're lifting the mandate on them next week too.
00:07:55.680 That affects a large number of people.
00:07:57.360 Yeah.
00:07:58.320 Uh, I, I think you're right that it's, it's, we finally found a way that the majority, uh, who just aren't really caring about the minority, uh, just the way kind of people are, it's, as long as it doesn't affect them, it now was affecting them.
00:08:13.860 And, you know, regular people are, want to fly around the country, uh, you know, the unvaccinated have been, it's not a Berlin Wall with anyone shooting at anyone, but you're not allowed to travel in Canada if you're unvaccinated, unless it's by automobile or on foot.
00:08:27.560 I guess maybe you could take a snowmobile from a bicycle.
00:08:31.580 Yeah, yeah.
00:08:32.060 But you're not allowed to take it.
00:08:33.360 If you want to travel around Canada, you have to fly pretty much,
00:08:37.060 unless it's very close.
00:08:39.940 And that was just affecting the unvaccinated.
00:08:42.560 Now, as you're saying, Corey, what that's doing is breaking down the system.
00:08:47.780 Federal airport authority.
00:08:49.160 You're not allowed to work in a federal airport unless you're double vaccinated.
00:08:51.440 They have lost a large percent.
00:08:53.260 That's a blue-collar workforce,
00:08:54.500 And it's disproportionately as higher numbers of unvaccinated, even if still a minority, it was a higher number.
00:09:00.020 So they lost a bunch of airport workers. They lost a bunch of pilots.
00:09:04.480 And this stuff is just gumming up the system. It now finally affects the majority.
00:09:09.600 But what politically was it? I mean, Pearson, I think the Pearson thing going viral was huge.
00:09:15.880 It became the cause slab for at least a few days.
00:09:19.720 But liberal MPs have been banging about this for weeks saying,
00:09:23.100 guys, I know this may have been good politics in the last election,
00:09:25.340 but we're looking like idiots.
00:09:27.140 What finally changed it?
00:09:29.340 Was it the science?
00:09:30.280 Did science change at noon?
00:09:31.280 I don't think the science changed at noon.
00:09:32.760 Maybe it just, I mean, Corey said it didn't really have anything to do with it,
00:09:36.380 but Trudeau was vaccinated three times,
00:09:38.300 and now for the third time he's got COVID and he's flying around.
00:09:42.020 Maybe he just realized, okay, this is getting silly.
00:09:46.320 um but i honestly think too that the internal dissension was about to blow up publicly and uh
00:09:55.280 so the last thing trudeau needs right now is another scandal because
00:09:58.580 these governments starting to fall apart let's go back to the truckers here those those
00:10:03.000 troublemaking truckers uh up to no good uh this was probably the one of the craziest of all
00:10:09.300 restrictions we've seen i mean yeah we did see uh you know the alberta government was ordering
00:10:13.360 the cops to go beat kids for playing hockey. I remember all effing KZU, kids playing hockey. 0.58
00:10:18.840 We've seen churches shut down. We've seen all sorts of stuff, but stopping truckers who drive
00:10:25.660 pretty much by themselves for weeks at a time, that was a pretty silly one. And that one's still
00:10:30.860 in place. Is the government giving any reasoning for why a trucker shouldn't be allowed to cross
00:10:35.300 the border? Other than saying the science, I think it's just, you know, as Corey's mentioned many
00:10:40.900 times on his show, Trudeau's just vindictive. He's a petty little vindictive man, and he's
00:10:47.280 going to keep his thumb on the truckers as long as he can.
00:10:50.560 It's just pure spite. I mean, if we talk about the science, come on, anybody, and I'm sure
00:10:53.820 they've been asked, show somewhere where this was a problem. I could accept it if you could
00:10:57.880 show some science and say, look at this, these truckers are coming in and bringing in all
00:11:01.100 this disease and infecting people and causing problems. Okay, then we've got something to
00:11:04.340 talk about. But there's no evidence whatsoever that this particular, in fact, the fact that
00:11:09.100 they exempted that when they lifted just about everything else. Shows just how petty and spiteful
00:11:14.560 he is. The honk honks made him scared, and he's not going to get over it until the bitter end. He
00:11:19.000 won't let go of those guys until he's absolutely poor. We should get some truckers on your show
00:11:23.620 in the next little bit. The honking will continue until freedom improves. Yeah. And it's not just
00:11:28.780 truckers, too. Take the military, for example. I think there were 1,200 people who lost their
00:11:33.280 careers in the military. And now they're so screwed, they're doing a recruitment campaign.
00:11:38.240 Please, please come and join us.
00:11:39.540 We need soldiers.
00:11:40.580 Well, you just gasped 1,200 of them. 1.00
00:11:43.160 We should take all these retired soldiers and hire them in the Alberta Rat Patrol, 0.99
00:11:47.400 the makings of the Alberta Army. 1.00
00:11:49.860 I think so.
00:11:52.320 Okay.
00:11:53.220 You heard it here, the fired Canadian soldiers, settlers, and airmen.
00:11:58.920 Alberta Rat Patrol, we want you.
00:12:01.040 I've got a place for you.
00:12:02.240 All right.
00:12:03.560 Speaking of Alberta Rat Patrol, the Alberta United Conservative Party leadership race.
00:12:07.920 um hey you said it not me you like that segue i did yeah yeah rat patrol okay uh the ucp uh brass
00:12:16.200 has set a date april 6 as i now have written down here uh april 6 uh alberta united conservative
00:12:23.020 party members six what did i say april oh my god even though it's written down as october even
00:12:29.480 though i wrote it right here okay uh october 6 united conservative party of alberta members
00:12:36.420 will head to the polls and cast their votes. Actually, they might not head to the polls that
00:12:40.160 day. They'll probably be online voting, things like that. And the party brass has also set the
00:12:46.140 entry fees, $150,000 to get on the ballot, plus another $25,000 in a good behavior bond,
00:12:55.700 essentially bond that goes up. So more or less, if you're watching this right now at home or at
00:13:01.420 your desk, wherever you are, and you want to run to be Alberta United Conservative Party leader,
00:13:05.460 you've got to pony up nearly $200,000 to get on the ballot.
00:13:11.180 And that's not including any money you're going to need to raise the campaign,
00:13:15.620 actually do anything in the campaign.
00:13:18.440 Dave, tell us about the announcement that came from the party.
00:13:22.380 Well, that was the key take out of it, Derek.
00:13:25.800 Candidates also have to get signatures, I think 200 signatures from five parts of the province,
00:13:32.200 and equaling a thousand uh but the the the key thing is that money uh just to put it in as an
00:13:40.600 example the ndp is having a leadership run just right next door in saskatchewan you know how much
00:13:46.280 they're charging to run four thousand dollars did you miss a few zeros no no no zeros just three
00:13:52.920 zeros and a four four thousand dollars well hell i'm gonna run i should go for saskatchewan ndp
00:13:58.760 you should i think cory's got some ndp uh propaganda uh materials so just one province
00:14:07.480 over it's not 4 000 it's 175 000 which i think is going to eliminate some people i think uh
00:14:14.840 mayor mayor rock probably saw his dream uh come to an end uh i think the entry is more than the
00:14:20.680 tax collection of the village that he's the mayor of like i think that's probably more than they
00:14:25.000 they raise in Texas for the year? Without a doubt. I'm sure for the bigwigs, they'll be able to raise
00:14:29.920 it. You know, the Smiths, the Janes, Taves. But it's going to be a hard slog for some of those
00:14:36.700 people to try and raise that money. And if they do, as you said, you know, what are they going
00:14:41.500 to need a couple more hundred grand to go campaigning around for a few months? So where's
00:14:46.560 that going to come from? So Corey, we're going to get into who is probably going to be affected by
00:14:50.640 this following with what Dave said. But first, why do you think the party said this? There's a
00:14:55.220 few reasons they might do it. What do you think are the chief reasons they would do something like
00:14:58.440 this? The main reason is they want to just keep it within the establishment and have it open and
00:15:01.820 closed without as many headaches as possible. That's going to keep the number of people running low. 0.75
00:15:06.120 I'd imagine what they would hope to be manageable and that it doesn't become sticky. But the optics
00:15:11.120 of it are horrific. And it really, in my view, indicates they still don't get it. They don't
00:15:17.180 understand why the grassroots people who like them have turned away from them. I mean, I've been
00:15:23.260 debating online with some other individuals are saying, you know what, the person can't raise that
00:15:26.680 much in two months, they don't deserve to be leader. Like, come on now. The conservatives
00:15:30.020 were based on actually fundraising with thousands and thousands of small donors, not five or six
00:15:35.880 big donors, because that's the only way anybody's going to raise that bar. So if you're talking,
00:15:39.480 that's the connected, that's the old group, that's the old school. It's not saying they're bad or
00:15:43.800 good, but that's the only ones who are going to be able to do it. It doesn't mean if a person
00:15:48.020 can't raise that in two months, it doesn't mean they're a poor organizer. That's just, you've got
00:15:51.120 realistic limitations going on. And they have exempted any of that. And people right now are
00:15:56.820 looking for fresh blood. They're tired of the same old. I mean, the biggest complaint we saw
00:16:00.080 leading into this is everybody running for this is a retread. And now you've just ruled out.
00:16:04.480 I thought you may mispronounce that for a second.
00:16:07.160 No, but either way, they've ruled out any fresh faces, you know, to a large degree.
00:16:13.800 Or somebody might have inherited a million dollars and throw their hat in anyway.
00:16:17.260 Well, they'll be just as whimsical as anybody else.
00:16:19.080 So this, I just think, was a bad move.
00:16:21.180 And they're just trying to make life easier on themselves.
00:16:23.040 And I don't think they did it.
00:16:24.120 So I think there's two reasons parties, two major reasons parties set financial barriers this large.
00:16:31.360 One is to keep the number of candidates from getting out of hand.
00:16:34.080 And there's a lot of candidates so far.
00:16:36.180 And the other one is to raise revenue.
00:16:37.720 Now, officially, parties aren't allowed to use this as fundraising.
00:16:40.820 But they can do it through the back door.
00:16:42.300 They can't just take the money from this deposit and just throw it in the party's bank account, but they can use it to underwrite costs they were already spending, like the cost of fundraising calls, the party's staff.
00:16:55.380 There's a big burn rate on that.
00:16:57.100 So the party can get financially ahead by having this kind of big entry fee.
00:17:02.780 You know, one UCP board member I was speaking to said that, you know, they just would be unbearable to have the new leader come into a party in debt when the NDP has got millions in the bank already ready to go.
00:17:13.840 I'm more inclined to think this is a bit of gatekeeping to an extent.
00:17:17.900 It is a big field.
00:17:20.220 So let's talk about who's going to be most affected by that.
00:17:23.220 I think you are right.
00:17:25.280 Yeah, it is elitist, but it is something to be said.
00:17:27.720 If you can't raise this money, it doesn't mean you shouldn't be premier or shouldn't be leader,
00:17:34.380 but it means you probably won't win anyway.
00:17:36.440 If you can't raise $175,000, there's just no way you were going to win anyway
00:17:41.560 because the fact is campaigns cost money.
00:17:44.060 It's the lifeblood of politics.
00:17:45.600 Even $50,000.
00:17:46.700 I mean, a person's going to be pretty serious for $50,000.
00:17:49.300 I mean, you're not just going to flush that down the toilet.
00:17:51.240 You better at least feel you've got a serious chance of contending for this.
00:17:54.500 you're going to wipe out the ones who are going to do it to troll the campaign or the ones who
00:17:59.060 really weren't serious or who were crazy, typically. Getting it that high, I mean,
00:18:03.540 that's just getting so beyond the pale. As you said, you have to raise that, but perhaps, again,
00:18:07.540 if you get that 50 to get in, you still have to demonstrate the ability to raise and organize,
00:18:11.380 but with the months during the campaign, you may be able to demonstrate stuff.
00:18:14.040 So what this is going to mean is, you know, say some of the smaller candidates like Todd Lohan,
00:18:17.900 let's say he raises the money. He's not going to have a nickel to rub together, buy gas to
00:18:23.460 tour around the province like they'll just you're fine you're on the ballot and maybe you can afford
00:18:28.900 the gas to drive down to a few debates around the province but that's it you you don't have a
00:18:34.420 campaign you can't hire staff now you can't hire uh you know the telephone phone bankers yeah you
00:18:39.940 can't buy advertising on the western standard if you're watching candidates um you know you'll just
00:18:45.800 have no money left over for any of that so it you know even if some of these guys get on the ballot
00:18:50.400 but they're just going to be so completely uncompetitive because they won't be able to
00:18:53.360 raise another penny beyond that. So let's talk about who this is going to affect the most. I
00:18:57.520 think very reasonably, I mean, it's going to cut into all their campaign budgets, but as a
00:19:02.900 percentage of disposable income, if we're going to use those terms, I think Brian Jean is going to
00:19:07.680 be okay. I think Daniel Smith is going to be okay. Travis Taves will be okay. I expect if
00:19:13.120 Michelle Rumpelgarner goes in, she'll be okay. But I think everyone after that is going to
00:19:18.880 have some trouble. And then I guess we kind of put them into, take our bets, but kind of the
00:19:23.580 two categories after that. Who are the people who are going to be able to meet it, but be pretty
00:19:27.440 much tapped out? They're on the ballot, but they're not going to have any money to actually
00:19:31.900 campaign. And who's not going to make it at all? Let's start. Who do you guys think are just not
00:19:38.820 going to make it to the ballot, likely? I'm sorry, Mr. Merock. I don't know. Maybe he's
00:19:46.180 independently wealthy. I mean, are there limits actually with these internal races? You've got
00:19:50.040 to break a few donations. Yeah, there's, you could donate to your own campaign, but you can't
00:19:56.000 underwrite the thing. Now, it's a bit ambiguous. You might be able to loan the whole thing to your
00:20:00.160 campaign, and then you go find a bunch of donors to pay yourself back. But at the end of the day,
00:20:05.760 if you can't do that, that means you made an illegal donation and you're in big trouble.
00:20:09.560 Either way, ROC is a very highly unlikely one. Yeah. In fairness, we're just guessing, right?
00:20:14.940 We don't know. 1.00
00:20:16.360 Take somebody like Rachel Schultz.
00:20:17.820 But our guessing is always right. 0.84
00:20:19.440 Two, Ms. Schultz, who announced this week, seems like a very credible candidate.
00:20:25.220 Seems like she's a bit distant from Kenny's inner circle.
00:20:29.620 She may, I mean, $175,000 has got to be pretty daunting to her.
00:20:33.800 But we don't know who she's got on our campaign, right?
00:20:36.960 We don't know who.
00:20:38.120 I suspect she'll get on the ballot, but she's not going to have a lot left over to campaign with.
00:20:42.080 So, you know, the day are the days of driving from town to town over anyways.
00:20:49.680 I mean, if you just got a smart social media guy who can do lots of, you know, nice looking commercials and put out a message a day on Facebook and Twitter.
00:20:59.640 Just advertise on the Western Standard.
00:21:01.480 Advertise on the Western Standard.
00:21:02.600 That's all you have to do.
00:21:03.620 But you can make a mark on a modest budget if you do it well.
00:21:06.160 Yeah, if you hire, you know, just two or three people around you, you can get your message out.
00:21:12.340 True, but I think there's an expectation in Alberta for a conservative leadership race that you're going to meet the candidate in person.
00:21:20.840 And yeah, sure, you can go to Calgary and Edmonton, Red Deer, the big ones, but to get, you know, a lot of the members are disproportionately in rural Alberta, small towns, even villages, places where, like, Mayor Bill Rock is from.
00:21:32.680 And that is a lot of travel, a lot of organization, a lot of gas.
00:21:38.440 And I think there's an expectation, at least among those who are going to win, that they're doing those kinds of extensive tours.
00:21:43.240 Before Jason Kenney kind of went sideways, his tour in that big blue truck was famous.
00:21:47.980 He hit every friggin' little place with a stop sign in Alberta.
00:21:52.660 And it was brutally effective.
00:21:54.120 He even stopped at my bar in Pritis.
00:21:55.880 Gas wasn't almost two bucks a liter at the time, though, right?
00:21:58.500 So, I mean, hey, maybe some of them will have to sell their pickup trucks and buy smart cars to zip around the province.
00:22:04.820 Oh, wouldn't that be a new look for the UCPA, smart cars.
00:22:09.220 But no, just advertising on the Western standards is obviously the way to go.
00:22:12.960 That's clearly, that's the only way to go.
00:22:14.560 Clearly the way to go.
00:22:15.080 Whoever buys the most Western standard ads is going to win the whole thing.
00:22:18.220 That's it.
00:22:19.320 It's a fact.
00:22:20.560 Other candidates who might be in trouble.
00:22:24.140 He's going to have a hard time.
00:22:25.700 Todd Lowen, I mean, it'll be a tough one.
00:22:28.500 Who else is running?
00:22:31.740 Sawani, I always get her.
00:22:33.560 Raj Nsani.
00:22:34.580 Raj Nsani?
00:22:35.460 I don't know.
00:22:36.180 I have a feeling she'll make it,
00:22:38.120 but probably not have a lot left over.
00:22:39.620 But I have a feeling she'll make the ballot.
00:22:41.320 She's well thought of.
00:22:42.600 How about Leela? 0.99
00:22:46.560 Kind of a different outlier. 0.94
00:22:48.700 Yeah.
00:22:50.640 I don't think could win.
00:22:52.560 Might make the ballot, might not.
00:22:53.960 I don't know.
00:22:54.660 Such a big chunk of money.
00:22:56.300 And I mean, even if they find the means,
00:22:57.820 they've really got to start asking themselves though, like with that chunk put out, do I have
00:23:02.420 anything left over? I mean, even if you have the donors, do you want to take their money and use
00:23:06.260 it when you really don't think you have a solid chance of winning? You're just going to get
00:23:09.300 transferred. You've got no money left to campaign. So I suspect that field's going to narrow soon.
00:23:13.620 Yeah. Is the big figure also keeping people out that aren't in yet? I'm thinking of like people
00:23:19.020 like the Drew Barnes of the world. Are they going to think 175 grand? That's it. I mean,
00:23:24.720 Drew and, say, Todd could be positioned to put themselves as the anti-establishment candidates.
00:23:31.040 I mean, right now, people are looking for change.
00:23:33.560 They don't want to see old PC Tory land, and they're seeing all of that with all the others to a degree,
00:23:38.120 though arguably Danielle and Brian are from outside, but they're established politicians.
00:23:43.780 As I said, the old organizers used to, as you said, hit the rural areas and galvanize and, you know, $50 here, $20 there.
00:23:50.700 It's a lot of work, but boy, if you get that ball rolling, they could corner, you know, a niche.
00:23:54.720 that could be effective. 0.61
00:23:57.480 Well, I think it's definitely going to thin the race. 1.00
00:23:59.240 I think we'll, but what you're probably going to see 0.80
00:24:00.940 is they're all going to continue up
00:24:02.160 until the deposits are required.
00:24:04.140 They're going to pretend.
00:24:05.700 Some of them right now know they are not running.
00:24:08.140 They know right now there is no way
00:24:09.340 in hell I'm getting that money,
00:24:10.300 but they're going to run anyway
00:24:11.320 because it's going to give them some profile.
00:24:13.240 They'll get some media and people will talk about them.
00:24:16.500 They'll see their name in the press
00:24:17.780 and they're going to run.
00:24:18.980 And then when that first deposit comes due,
00:24:21.780 I think some will drop off
00:24:23.120 And some will limp in through that first deposit.
00:24:26.020 But by the time that last deposit comes, I think we're going to be down to five or six.
00:24:32.240 I would think six maximum.
00:24:34.080 Yeah, I'd be surprised if we get above that.
00:24:37.220 All right.
00:24:38.500 Anything else we need to talk about in the CCP leadership?
00:24:41.160 Anything?
00:24:41.660 Oh, Brian Jean launches his campaign formally today.
00:24:44.320 Tonight, yeah, in Hotel in Edmonton.
00:24:48.520 Our Rachel Emanuel will be there.
00:24:50.480 and Linda Slobodian, our columnist, is also covering it.
00:24:55.760 Yeah, and then I think Gene will be back down in Calgary tomorrow.
00:24:59.560 He's got an event tomorrow night at the Willow Park Golf Club, I believe.
00:25:03.160 There we go.
00:25:03.840 Which I'm not allowed in because I'm not a member.
00:25:07.000 I can't cover it tomorrow.
00:25:08.980 I think it's a public event.
00:25:10.880 A private golf course?
00:25:11.760 I don't think only people who are members of the golf course
00:25:14.400 are going to be allowed to come to that brand new event.
00:25:16.180 Our social media manager is a member, though, so we're covered.
00:25:19.100 I wouldn't suspect you're trying to dodge work.
00:25:22.400 No, no, not at all.
00:25:23.560 No, OK.
00:25:24.340 Hockey game's not on, so.
00:25:25.800 No, no.
00:25:27.060 OK, well, that's the glorious Dave Nailer.
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