THE PIPELINEļ¼ Trudeau's post-national state is now prey to become a post-state nation
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Western Standard Opinion Editor Nigel Hannaford and Senior Alberta Columnist Corey Morgan join me to discuss the sudden resignation of Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, and the impact it has on the country he is leaving behind. We discuss the reasons why Trudeau should have resigned, and what the country is going to do now that he is gone.
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Today, I'm Derek Fildebrandt, publisher of the Western Standard, and you're watching The Pipeline.
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Today is January 8th, 2025, our first edition of the new year, and it's been a slow news cycle.
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There really hasn't been anything to talk about.
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It's just been absolutely nuts around the Western Standard Newsroom for the last few days,
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and it's very obvious what we're going to be talking about today.
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We're going to be talking about the resignation of Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau
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and the absolute ash heap that he is leaving of a country behind him right now.
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And, you know, I used to say, I'm not sure if Trump is joking about annexing Canada anymore.
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Well, I think it's increasingly clear that he's not at least entirely joking,
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that he might actually be deadly serious about trying to form some kind of,
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bring Canada into the United States as one or more states.
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I'm joined, as usual, by Western Standard Opinion Editor, Nigel Hannaford.
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Indeed. And Western Standard Senior Alberta Columnist, Corey Morgan.
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All right, gentlemen. We're off to quite a new year. I remarked yesterday, by the end of the day, it's only Tuesday and the prime minister has resigned. And the president of the United States is getting very serious about annexing Canada.
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But we're going to get to the annexing part in a bit.
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But I guess first let's just try to limit ourselves to Justin Trudeau, state of the country he's ā the state in which he's leaving office and the country he is leaving behind obviously ties directly in to where we're going with Donald Trump.
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So we'll spend more on the second segment here than on the first.
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So we'll try to confine our comments just to Trudeau for now.
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So, Nigel, you and I, we did a kind of an emergency, not, I didn't call it the pipeline, but it was, we had an emergency kind of...
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You know, most prime ministers don't leave office under the greatest of circumstances.
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Most politicians generally don't leave at the time of their choosing, especially if they're in high office.
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Dalton McGuinty, a little bit. He was leaving before a big scandal hit,
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but he knew when to go from our Premier of Ontario.
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But the list is pretty small of prime ministers who just say,
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And even if they're going to lose, they normally do it with a bit more grace
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when they decide to go, like, here, Trudeau, he puts it a bit poetically.
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He took a walk in the snow and reflected on things.
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Time to go. You know, he knew it was time to go.
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Justin Trudeau is leaving office, kicking and screaming, suspending parliament, and leaving the country in a position of absolute destitute.
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Operative part of the word was ing, leaving, not left.
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and for the next couple of months he can do what he wants to do with no scrutiny from opposition
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MPs. I have no idea how he means to handle the Donald Trump challenge of
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Paris if you don't meet certain conditions. We certainly haven't met the conditions.
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It is actually a very much more dangerous situation because if he had actually gone,
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who turned the keys through the letterbox and walked off, at least we could be having
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a new leader in place, somebody who you could say, well, it's your job now, get on with
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it. What are you going to do? He, however, how do you bring him to bear? What does he
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think he's going to do? Who's he going to have to help him do it? What's the Team Canada
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that he's going to have with him, flanking him at some point? We must engage with the
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Americans. I wish he were gone, clearly. Corey, I think most people, including at this point the
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Liberal Party, wishes he was gone, but he's not. You know, I did some math on the timeline here
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when he announced he has prorogued Parliament, which I recall a younger Justin Trudeau saying
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is the actions of an authoritarian dictator, if that Prime Minister happens to be conservative
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named Stephen Harper. And Stephen Harper did it to forestall a bizarre coalition of other parties
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taking place without an election. Fruto is proroguing to stop an election, quite the opposite,
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actually, of Stephen Harper. Stephen Harper would have been actually quite happy to have an election
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after StƩphane Dion, Liberals, the NDP, and the Bloc QuƩbƩcois tried to form a tripartite coalition
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to overthrow his government without an election. He would have been happy to have an election,
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probably would have won a majority government right there for it. But he has forestalled an election
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here until parliament returns on March 24th. Presumably the Liberals will break the rules
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of their own constitution to select a leader earlier than that. The rules do not allow for
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essentially to be held that quickly. But if the Liberals are willing to rip up the constitution
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of Canada, parliamentary law and convention, surely the scrap of paper that is the Liberal
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this is great, might actually run out of money in the meantime
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then we have a five weeks then roughly for an election that takes us to early may and then
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another two to three weeks for a new government to be organized and sworn in that takes us uh
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a june uh takes us into uh probably towards anime early june and then they have to find
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the offices and get in in the meantime canada has no functional government at all yeah we are in
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i don't think people understand the scope of crisis there's never a good time to be
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leaderless essentially you know for all intents and purposes for six months but at the same time
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when our closest training partner is transitioning into the leadership of what's volatile and
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unpredictable president of modern history and we don't have solid representatives at least speak
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for our side to talk to these things uh leaving aside the the domestic problems we have yeah we
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have a government that actually has been crippled for months because the liberals didn't want to
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release their uh green slush fund uh documents i mean we have been ungoverned for a long time
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we're kicking the can down the road deficits this is a disaster and it's only going to get worse
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with every passing week you're not looking to buy time and i still think i wouldn't put it beyond him
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in his bizarre world when you saw his resignation i mean he feels like he's a victim he feels like
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he could have changed things i could see him trying to turn this around even say look the
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crisis is so bad right now we just can't wait for a leadership i've got to resume the prime
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ministership for the sake of canada and i don't think it would work i think it would just make
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things worse well it depends how long the crisis went off when the crisis starts apparently on
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january the 20th he is the prime minister yeah what will he do and his response to this is going
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to be interesting and frightening to see because nothing he says carries any weight he's easy you
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know again he's gone from lame duck to dead duck he's easy out the door he has no credibility even
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an interim leader at least you understand the role so you know there's a couple there's no good
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scenarios ahead of us right now there's nothing good that can come from this situation um on the
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one hand so trump is going to be inaugurated president about i think 12 days um and he said
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he's bringing in tariffs on day one that maybe they get their implementation gets suspended
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maybe not but who's actually gonna make the case right now because representing canada who is he
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really gonna negotiate with you know justin trudeau or who whatever lackey he sends down there
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uh trump's gonna sit across from them if he even agrees to sit with them he'll say who do you
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represent do you have the ability to pass a trade agreement through parliament oh no you guys
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suspended parliament because you'll just get defeated why are we talking shouldn't you just
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guys just have an election and because you need to be able to get a trade agreement through
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parliament why am i even talking with you you got you might be gone um so on the one hand he might
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simply not negotiate the canadian government at this point and he wouldn't be wrong to take that
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approach even more worrisome is if he does if he is willing to negotiate with the current canadian
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regime uh because he sees weakness like and it's not just weak they're dead government walking this
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is a zombie regime. And he might be willing to negotiate with them because he knows he can roll
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them over and get anything he wants from them short of annexation. So I don't know, Nigel,
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what's worse? Trump refusing to negotiate with our current government or Trump eagerly negotiating
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with this government? Well, I think he detests and despises Justin Trudeau so much that he might
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enjoy rubbing his nuts and not just for the sake of doing it. In which case, everything that you've
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just said leading up to this is the worst case scenario. Mr. Trudeau just has nothing to draw on.
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He can find four or five senior bureaucrats who understand what trade is about and they can go
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down there together and Mr. Trudeau, when the president says this, this is what he's getting at.
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so what you know uh there's nobody to do a deal with and if they do get a deal who's going to
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ratify the emergent or the prorogations are everybody come back going to do this thing
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and then we're going to do a non-confidence vote you know it's very hard you really need
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you don't need a political analyst you need a crime writer or novelist
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to try and figure out the subtleties and the nuances of which way this thing could go.
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Part of the problem is that Parliament is sovereign,
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but it means the courts really don't even have jurisdiction over this kind of thing.
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So there really isn't, like the court really might not be able to interfere,
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If that Parliament didn't do it, the problem is it's sovereign.
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This really is probably the worst times that candidates
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But I'll tell you one thing. This would not have happened
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Yeah, Trudeau might have tried to strangle him.
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Okay, well, then we're just going to have to...
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The larger context in which the resignation happens now.
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fruto announces his resignation monday uh trump that night was kind of dancing on his grave as
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one would expect from not he was president normal normal president but from trump um
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but then he immediately went right into annexation or union talks between the countries
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and we've talked about this before and i and i get to lord it over you a little bit nigel
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When we were talking about this, I was making the case that Trump is probably mostly joking, but he's going on about this a lot.
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And I'm starting to think there's a small chance he's not entirely joking.
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And you are holding back, cracking a smile that I was totally nuts.
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You were a polite guy, but I could see you holding it in.
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i i don't think it's a joke anymore well i'll tell you what it is it's a barrage that precedes
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the advance of the infantry he's throwing everything out there to to mess with the minds
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of mr trudeau in the first place but everybody who is working with him and canadians in general
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and it is working good gracious anybody who watched the cbc presentation of it yesterday
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They were, I mean, I just couldn't watch it any longer.
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So he does, he has already ruled out military force.
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I can imagine the Yanks going into Panama.
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So with Greenland, I don't think there's any need.
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Do you know who tried to first build the Panama Canal?
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the Scots. The Scots. Because some genius thought it'd be a great idea to send a bunch of
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gingers down to the equator in the jungle to hack a canal through. And it was so financially
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ruinous that Scotland went bankrupt and had to join the United Kingdom. Ah, the gingers are on
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the comment right now. They don't like being called gingers. I could not resist a bit of
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trivia there. The Panama Canal is an interesting history. It certainly is. But look, I mean,
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there is absolutely no way in this day and age that an American president would militarily
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invade Canada. They might Panama. They might Greenland. They've got bases there already.
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Technically, it'd be an invasion of another NATO country. He's not going to send the army to seize
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Greenland. No. Well, they've got bases there already. It'll just be a matter of doing things
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Most of them can be paid off pretty easily and quickly.
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But I do think that this whole blast of rhetoric
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is designed to diminish the will and the resolution
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of the Canadians who are going to have to face them.
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you are going to have to go with the Prime Minister,
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or you might even be sent by the Prime Minister
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we can take Canada. We'll just do it economically. We can crush them with enough
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economic force was the term. Yeah. You know, that basically, I mean, you read between the lines
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and they'll come on bended knee after enough starvation. And we call that
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dollar imperialism in the fifties, you know? Yeah. And it's
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we have to take it seriously. I mean, I could see him following through
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with that. And usually a situation where you have, you know, somebody foreign
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is threatening the well-being of your nation. The nation rallies around
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the leadership. But here's where we're in trouble. We look like an anthill
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that's just been stirred up and everybody's running in a hundred directions. There's no leader to rally
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around. Well, no calls. Actually, Derek, you should
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talk about that column of yours that you put out.
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Well, that's where I'm going. Okay, Mr. Trudeau is asking us
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and you know it is incredible watching the left in canada demand that patriots rise up
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man the ramparts against the foreign invader where were you guys during the freedom convoy
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when you jailed our people for protesting against authoritarianism from our own government where
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were you guys when the statues of sir john and mcdonald and queen victoria were torn down and
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Even conservatives like Doug Ford, who's trying to wave the flag right now.
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Look what's in front of Queen's Park right now.
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It is covered so that no one can see it because vandals are there.
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Doug Ford and the police will do nothing about it.
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Where were you guys when you changed the national anthem to make it politically correct?
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Where were you guys when you lowered the flag on Parliament Hill and across the country
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in all federal buildings for six months for a sham hoax that Canada is genocidal.
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Where were you guys when you denigrated valor and military honor of the Canadian Armed Forces
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and replaced it with DEI and tampons in the men's room?
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They were calling us racist, sexist, homophobes.
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They were calling us every name in the book saying we were un-Canadian.
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They've been denigrating Canada, calling us a post-national state.
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Now that Canada faces a very real potential threat to its sovereignty,
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we might not even be left with a post-national state.
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We might be left, as I wrote, with a post-state nation.
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So how dare they come to us right now and demand that we man the ramparts
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when they have been debasing and degrading this country,
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Stand up a whole bunch of purple-haired castrato
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Maybe they'll make the Americans laugh themselves to death.
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there's just levels and levels and levels as to why we are in such terrible condition to deal
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with what we've got coming down the pipe in 12 days from now no it's a catastrophic failure in
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leadership and this it's just an interesting question as to who was actually responsible for
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deciding mr trudeau that it was time to go was it his own caucus who had been calling for him to
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step down or was it that in the end he didn't want to go nose-to-nose with Donald Trump?
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You know this is the moment where Canada needs leadership from the left or the right but someone
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to speak for the country. I'm not even trying to use the word nation anymore because Dustin Trudeau
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does not believe Canada is a nation. It's a post-national state. But we are left. You know
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Sun Tzu says, the battle is won, not in the field, but in the temple. It's your inner moral strength,
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your courage of conviction, your plan. Well, we know there's no plan. There's not even a government.
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We don't have a general right now. We've got a rabble on the field. But does the rabble in the
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field, you know, if we're the peasants with pitchforks, what do we believe? Who are we?
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Well, what is Canada? I mean, Canada was, I mean, our identity has always been somewhat
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stitched together by the state. We were British North America, and we had to stitch together
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French and English, not a traditional common national identity. But it had to be stitched
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together, and it was grown and cultivated over time, and it was brought low by Pierre Trudeau
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trying to replace it with multiculturalism. You know, the dark side of Canadian nationalism is
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just knee-jerk anti-Americanism. What's a Canadian? What is a Canadian? Well, we're an American with
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health insurance, no guns. Well, that's always been a bit BS to begin with. But what are we
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really defending now? I grew up such a fanatical Canadian nationalist, patriot. And I've been told
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that everything I love about Canada is evil. All the symbols, the institutions, the traditions,
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these are evil things. So what am I being asked to stand up for right now?
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Oh, you are certainly being asked to stand up for all those things that they've been denigrated
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as if you just so eloquently put it but you also said where is the leadership coming from
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in the complete absence of leadership in the liberal party it must come from the opposition
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and those those qualities all these things that you have been talking about can be reclaimed it
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It is possible to say, you know, we were wrong about Sir John A. MacDonald.
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It is possible to say we were wrong to let liberals get away with castrating our military,
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which is even as recently as 10 years, 15 years ago, was active in Afghanistan and doing an amazing job.
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These things can be brought back, but somebody, and I'm thinking here, the leader of the
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opposition needs to step forward and say, okay, obviously things have gone completely
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We need to get through the next couple of months, but ladies and gentlemen, this is
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how it's going to be when we, and to take back all of those things we have had taken
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And you can start that framework, but that's still a longer game.
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But I almost wonder, I mean, we're just speculating on scenarios because Trump's so unpredictable.
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I mean, he's already kind of acknowledged, you know, the Musk and the others are acknowledging that Polyev appears to be the heir apparent.
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Just say, I want to start dealing with this guy because I know he's going to be the prime minister in five, six months and we can get stuff done.
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and at the same time though that really undermines our entire governing system when
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a presumed new leader is now negotiating on behalf of like but this would have sounded
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outrageous a month ago where are we sitting now so that that's that's where actually that's a
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great point that's that's where i wanted to go with this conversation because he's not the
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equivalent of trump where he's been elected but not yet inaugurated he's not the prime minister
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elect. He is the assumed next prime minister, but he's not the prime minister elect. But we are in
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such an unprecedented situation, and we are in such a moment of genuine crisis for Canada that
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is it appropriate now? And, you know, when you go into these negotiations, you kind of need the
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bureaucracy behind you. You need the pointy heads in the Foreign Affairs Department or whatever the
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But, you know, you don't have that team behind him.
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He doesn't have the expert diplomats and trade experts.
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You really want that when you go into negotiations like this.
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But is this the point where Polyev has to almost assume the role of prime minister now?
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He can be seen as arrogant, getting ahead of himself before he's elected.
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On the other side, he might be seen as prime ministerial,
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that Trump is pushing forward, not just about Canada, but generally.
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And that's for him to let people know, not for me to speculate about.
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But, you know, he can't afford to be seen as Trump-lite,
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as the Guardian newspaper recently labeled him.
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He can't afford to be seen as anything other than
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the strongest possible opponent of any kind of American takeover of Canada.
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however you can also step forward to the center stage and say clearly the people who should be
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doing the job are not doing it they don't appear to be capable of doing it and they appear to be
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unlikely to do it we need a government of national unity to get us through this crisis what about it
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trudeau that will mean including the conservatives and the bloc quebecois amazing though it would be
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and the NDP. Sorry, you're talking about forming a new government in the meantime before an election?
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Yeah. Well, certainly, it would be effectively a government. It wouldn't be leading all of the
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other legislative stuff. But there's a job to do. Somebody needs to do it. Prime Minister is
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incapable of it. So let's get the team together to do this. I don't think that conservatives can
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or should agree to it. There's only one thing this country needs, and it's an election. We need it
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so desperately right now. And we're not going to get it, short of another convoy heading to Ottawa
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and honking until Trudeau cries again. We're not going to get another election until probably called
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in early March. And then I said it's probably, sorry, late March and then called for early May.
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We're not going to get it until then. And there's only one thing. And even the election's not going
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to solve our problems. But at least it puts a captain on the team, gives the team a common set
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of colors to fight with. Well, of course, that's the gold standard, an election now, get it done.
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I don't, I appreciate your sentiment, a government of national unity, but
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my precedent for this is 1939. Except the prime minister is Oswald Mosley.
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I don't think so. No, what I'm saying is it's completely incompatible.
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That's a different road altogether. There is no, there is no government to rally around right now.
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where the government's completely lost all confidence.
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Like in the traditional cabinet sense, we form like a wartime coalition cabinet.
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All I have needs to step forward with a clear plan and a group of people standing behind him who could actually put it into practice and challenge the liberals to get with their program.
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I mean, it's, I can kind of see the formation of a, it's like a shadow opposition in a sense.
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Well, we're kind of the shadow future government.
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You know, you don't want to be too presumptuous, but you could say, well, this is what's going to be.
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I mean, try to get cooperation out of the Bloc. I mean, if anybody's pragmatic among the leaders
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in there... You don't need the Bloc right now because it's just about... If Palliev can go
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and negotiate a deal that he can implement once he wins the election. Yeah, to give the appearance
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of credibility, the more you could bring in as Nigel Singh, at least to look like we've got a...
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The Bloc has every reason to join this kind of an effort because they'll be toast if...
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They might not even be welcomed as a 50-verse.
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Sorry, I get to rub it in Nigel's face just a little bit more.
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This is when I wanted to talk about Trump not being entirely joking about annexing Canada.
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I think we get to talk about it as something he is serious about.
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Now, maybe he is serious about it, but he's using it, like, it's not just a troll anymore, having fun, laugh at our expense, laugh at Trudeau's expense.
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At the lightest, it's a negotiating tactic to rattle the hell out of us so that when we come to the negotiating table, maybe we're like, please, just a 25% tariff, don't take us over.
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I think he, you know, this would put him on Mount Rushmore.
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I mean, this would more than double the size of the United States.
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It would make us bigger than the Soviet Union was at its height.
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Jeez, we might even be bigger than the Mongol Empire was.
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But we'd be in the neighborhood of the Mongol Empire, the largest land empire in world history.
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Probably, maybe it would even be bigger than the British Empire?
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Facebook. Yeah. But I think he's serious about it.
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Well, there is psychological warfare. The question is, is this just meant to rattle us or is this meant to now soften us up or an actual plan to incorporate Canadian promises as states in the United States?
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Mechanics of such a move, realistically, would take more time than Trump has possibly got to hope to be in office, even if that was a long term goal.
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I mean, if he if he really thinks that this giant union and he would be the one in history who went beyond the Alaska purchase and expanded the American borders, if that's seriously what he's got in the back of his mind, still serious.
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And he's trying to beat up, you know, soften things up to move towards it.
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I just don't see anything close to that happening within less than a decade or two.
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I mean, even if we started moving towards it, how much appetite is there on the average American's part to want to see this?
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How much appetite does the average Republican to say, let's have a bunch more electoral college seats, go Democrat in the future?
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Yeah, but I mean, he commands the Republican Party absolutely at this point.
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The Democrats, I mean, they're kind of poo-pooing it a little bit right now, but they kind of do want a bunch of new, mostly blue states.
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uh so i you know going back to our earlier conversation about this when it maybe was
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just trolling us maybe it was a little bit serious if he wanted to do it i mean you know
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we got a lot of people who have been happy to denigrate canada and drag it through the mud for
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the last few decades upstanding about how proud a canadian they are all of a sudden right now we
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We have to keep up crappy, recycled Tim Hortons as if that's going to go away.
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But if he was to impose a crippling tariff on us, he could send us into the dark ages economically.
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And I know some people I've had, I've had chats with people who are, you know, don't follow politics closely.
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They're like, well, maybe we'll just increase trade with other countries.
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Stephen Baker tried to bring us firmly back into the British orbit.
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It's a small island on the other side of an ocean.
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even China. There's just no other real main trading partner for us. We are connected at
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the hip to America, if we like it or not. And sometimes we don't like it, sometimes we do.
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If he wanted to crush us economically, he absolutely could. And it would hurt America,
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but I've seen, you know, lefty pundits say, well, it'll hurt Americans even more. No, it won't.
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It'll hurt Americans a bit, but it could cripple us. And at what point are Canadians who are
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demanding that the basket of deplorables go to the ramparts right now to defend Canada.
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At what point are Canadians willing to say, enough, we give up, we'll join?
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I find it hard to imagine that anybody would make the decision to join the U.S.
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that's with Trump asking if it was Biden asking those same people probably would
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not say that and then a bunch of people opposing it right now it's saying that
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would be so bad with a Kamala exactly so it kind of depends who you like but
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you know I can't think of a precedent for a country being forced into some
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kind of surrender of sovereignty through economic means alone always
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ultimately depends on somebody walking in and say give us the keys in a forced marriage you know
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i can see i i'd have to get really hungry before marrying that uh you know uh nasty uh ill-tempered
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pimply gal down the street you know uh it's just if only for my own principles and and uh
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personally maybe it'd be a beautiful woman i just don't want to be forced and i think that sort of
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thing would galvanize a lot of people as nigel said you know i'll put up with the cold coffee
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Like if he was just to shut the border, mass unemployment.
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The Canadian government would go actually bankrupt pretty quick.
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Americans don't own a ton of our debts, but they could call in our debts.
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You get mass unemployment, like Great Depression level unemployment.
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Everybody else's standard of living is falling.
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You could do it, but how many Americans are going to put up with that for long either?
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I mean, they're not all heartless. And what about other countries? They're going to get pretty upset, too.
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We're seeing expansionism through economic weaponry. This is a precedent around the world that's not going to be well received as well.
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I mean, I know we what I'm saying is Trump could do it. Trump just could hurt us terribly.
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Oh, he could. And I'm just I don't know where is the breaking point.
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And I think the breaking point, if say we had a Trump a decade ago, I think the breaking point would be harder.
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because there was at least a government that did care about a sense of Canadian identity that was
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proud of Canada. We've had a government of power now for 10 years and we've had a group of people
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in the commanding heights of Canadian high society and industry for generations that do not believe
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in this country as a nation. They believe in it as a state, as a geographic boundary of which
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there is a body called a government that has a monopoly on force and gets to redistribute wealth
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but not not a nation in the sense of england france or germany or a civic nation in the sense
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of america they have a real set of common values beyond not being americans is there really a big
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sense of self and and while maybe i'm speaking wildly here we're all speaking wildly this is a
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wild situation. It is a wild conversation. But think of this. I don't know how this would play
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out, but I'm not calling immigrants unpatriotic, but I am saying it takes time for your attachment
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to a country to grow. You don't feel as Canadian probably the very first day on Canadian soil as
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you do after five years, after 10 years, after one or two generations. The longer you're here,
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the more connection you feel to the country. Wouldn't it just be the height of irony
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who wanted to go to America as their first choice
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and they now get to vote on getting to join America.
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that Justin Trudeau, having opened the floodgates
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may have preferred America as their first choice,
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continue to flow from Canada to the United States.
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and there are some people who, by the nature of their family attachments
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basically pretty much flourish where they were born,
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But if you're a doctor, you're an AI specialist,
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if you're one of the people who develop particular skills,
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and Canada actually starts to seriously circle the drain,
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Are you going to sit there and drink your cold coffee?
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Or you say, well, you know, might as well go to where my bills are appreciated.
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Well, we're going to turn it into our parting shots now.
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If there was any single move, if we want to start getting away from some of the stuff that has undercut Canadian identity and pride, unity,
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in a national sense. It's those frigging land acknowledgements. They got to stop. Somebody's
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got to get up and say, that's it. They're done. They're stopping. We're not going to start every
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event, every hockey game, have every radio station take a portion of time in the day
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to expect everybody to stare at their shoes and acknowledge that they're a nasty, nasty person
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because somebody who lived here 300 years ago was there before your ancestors or you or whomever
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showed up. That's one of the worst, almost cult-like things that is happening in schools
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that keeps driving it into people's heads that you are not a legitimate part of this nation.
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It's no wonder people don't feel connected to it today.
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There's the first part of we were talking about reversing some of the damage
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And I'm thinking about who replaces Mr. Trudeau when he finally lets go of the reins.
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And, of course, Mr. Carney, Mark Carney, has been touted as a possible one.
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Carney has had two great gigs at central banks.
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If he becomes the leader of the Liberal Party, the most likely outcome is that he's going to ride the ship all the way to the bottom.
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He's going to lose, and he's going to lose big.
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He can't possibly think that he's going to win.
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So it's like applying for the job of captain of the Titanic after the ship has already hit the iceberg.
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The only reason that I can think of is that he has some subtle plan and so do the people around him
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that he can follow some extreme ideological agenda that means something to him and something to them
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for the time he's got, be climate change related, but it means bad news for the rest of the country.
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you know canada is going to have a woman as prime minister someday who is in office for more than
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a month like kim campbell we're gonna have a real woman prime minister um and i think christia
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freeland would actually be doing the cause of having a woman leader of this country a disservice
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by standing right now to take the fall and be the liberals kim campbell kim campbell didn't really
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have a shot coming with the wild unpopularity of the brian mulroney government when that ended
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and i don't think christian freeland would have a real shot either um and i and i think
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canadians will not not elect her because she's a woman they will not not elect her because she's a
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liberal and a dyed-in-the-wool trudeau liberal despite their one little fight at the very end
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she's a trudeau liberal through and through and that's why canadians will not elect her
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um but if she is a lot is is the uh liberal leader she goes down it'll be a 2-0 record
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fall on this one, and she can consider picking up
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