The Western Standard's news editor, Dave Naylor, joins the show to talk about Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's trip to India, the lgbt+ movement in India, and the Canadian government's handling of the gay marriage crisis.
00:00:55.760oh yes well you get that final word though throughout the introductions of who maybe
00:01:00.960no married man ever gets the last word oh that's true i know better than that as well1.00
00:01:05.760i like learning things the hard way though three times and then something like that
00:01:11.280this isn't a marriage advice show this is news and issues and our i think our advice is of more
00:01:16.400value with that anyways than our uh we'll do a special another time on that and we got lots to
00:01:22.400to talk about today. I guess we'll get right into it. We'll talk about Trudeau. Our prime minister
00:01:31.180has gone to India and represented Canada yet again at a G20 summit, Dave. Yeah, and just when
00:01:37.680he couldn't embarrass us anymore, he finds new ways to do it. You remember his last trip to
00:01:42.680India, Corey? It was just a debacle. He played Mr. Dress Up, you know, pretended he was a native1.00
00:01:49.620Indian, and I think even the Indians were embarrassed for him. But he sort of didn't0.59
00:01:54.960learn his lesson this time. He wasn't invited to key meetings. He and the Indian Prime Minister
00:02:04.620don't get along. They don't like each other. That was plain to see. Judo asked for a private
00:02:10.940meeting with the Indian Prime Minister. Didn't get one. The only thing, he was asked what Canada
00:02:19.380had contributed to the final communique. He said gender, language, you know, just blather. And then
00:02:27.740just when you think you couldn't get any worse, his plane broke down. And he was stuck in India,
00:02:34.120So they sent a rescue plane to get him, and that turned around just as it got over in Europe because they fixed the plane.
00:02:44.000So the rescue plane was diverted, and he finally got back to Canada late Tuesday night.
00:02:50.760So another foreign trip, Nigel, that he won't look back fondly on.
00:02:56.680Sorry, even though he did take his son.
00:02:58.900He can't take as the estranged wife, so did take the son out of school and had him crying around in a fancy dress, too.
00:03:06.000This would be the young man who's one of the kids who wasn't going to be made a spectacle of?
00:03:12.080Yes, the one that he pleaded for privacy for, correct.
00:03:15.020Okay. Well, you know, one of the tragic things about this is that Harper left the state of relationships between India and Canada in tremendously good condition.
00:03:31.140First of all, he and Modi liked each other. I mean, they were both economists, so they would sit there and tell each other economist jokes.
00:03:40.700Yeah, you know, if all the economists in the world were laid end to end, they still wouldn't reach your conclusion.
00:03:48.200Oh, that's, you know, tell me another one.
00:03:50.560But it's the, the fact of the matter is that they, one of the signature accomplishment was to set up a deal for Canada, and more specifically for Saskatchewan, to supply uranium for the Atomic Energy Program in India.
00:04:15.200And that's what is now on the table in talks that our government, our federal government,
00:04:26.200our liberal government, the government of Mr. Trudeau has just broken off.
00:04:34.100You can imagine how they feel in Saskatchewan.
00:04:38.240You can imagine how they feel in India, but you can imagine how they feel in Saskatchewan.
00:04:42.820have just been undermined by their own federal government it's kind of how we feel in alberta
00:04:47.860when we have an environment administrator who wants to shut down our key industry so
00:04:54.580there's there's that whole aspect to it but the the way in which mr trudeau goes there
00:05:02.980and seeks to moralize you mentioned the the the lgbt stuff but it goes much deeper than that
00:05:11.220He has chosen to have opinions about Indian protest movements.
00:05:16.580And if you want to know how that feels to the Indian government,
00:05:20.100just imagine Prime Minister Narendra Modi saying,
00:05:25.340well, you know, it seems to me those convoy guys had a point.
00:05:30.080They would go nuts in Ottawa if any other foreign leader said that
00:05:37.760about what is, when all is said and done, an internal matter of dispute.
00:05:42.400It doesn't matter what you think about the convoy, whether you're for it or against it,
00:05:47.000to have somebody else from another country weigh in on it would be most unwelcome.
00:05:51.780And you could see why, therefore, when Mr. Trudeau was saying kind words to,
00:05:58.600about people who were farmers, I believe they were, a couple of years ago,
00:06:03.260who were rioting and blockading in India,
00:06:05.280well you know right to protest peaceful protest this sort of thing didn't go over well and i
00:06:11.760i can't imagine that he'll ever go back to india as anything other than a tourist
00:06:17.120well i couldn't imagine it being a top destination for him as a tourist he doesn't have a lot of
00:06:21.040fond memories i think of his visits i mean just we need dignity on the world stage again you know
00:06:27.840diplomacy you don't as you said have to agree with every action of the government the leader
00:06:32.880you're speaking with but when you're at an event like that you set aside some of those things and
00:06:38.000focus on your common grounds and see if you can make some progress but he's incapable there was
00:06:44.000a great photo by the canadian press of joe biden wagging his finger right in trudeau's face which
00:06:50.560none of the mainstream media in canada ran but it just it just shows you what uh what trudeau's
00:06:57.280thought of on the on the international stage it's just one embarrassment after the other and
00:07:02.880But, you know, the quicker he retires into Tofino, the better we can get a, you know, get some, start building Canada up again in the world.
00:07:11.700Because he's let the, you know, the military is now a laughingstock in his relations with India and other, you know, Germany.
00:07:20.440You know, hey, we'd like some of your natural gas while there's no business, no business plan here.
00:07:24.600So, yeah, it was a mess and just utter embarrassment.
00:07:29.960So I guess the question is, will he fight the next election, whenever that is?
00:07:35.400That's the million-dollar question, isn't it?
00:07:37.700I mean, there's a part of me that says, oh, yeah, please, because this is not a strong candidate.
00:07:42.880No, and they're sort of running out of time if he does resign to get a new one in with, you know, six months to a leadership debate,
00:07:50.060and then the new leader, he'll be like Daniel Smith, not having a lot of time before the next election.
00:07:56.260beyond, you know, just dealing directly with Modi, which is still frustrating. I mean, India is one
00:08:01.540of the biggest economies in the world. It's growing. They're coming along. It's not just
00:08:04.640uranium. Lentils and cereal crops, there's things that primary producers really were looking forward
00:08:09.600to supplying to India. But there was the G20. There were a whole number of other leaders of
00:08:15.040other countries there. I mean, a leader could take advantage of that time to have other dialogues or,
00:08:20.520you know, things such as that. But I didn't see any indication of him doing anything over there.
00:08:25.020No, there was a lot of pictures of sort of where candidates should be seated, and he wasn't there.
00:08:31.120Yeah, I think he actually skipped a couple of meetings right at the start.
00:11:44.640I can, you know, take the official Indian jet.
00:11:47.680So I'm sure you got to chuckle out of that.
00:11:51.740And the state of that plane, as is Nigel saying, I mean, it's in multiple governments that for political reasons just haven't kept up with those things.
00:12:00.760But it just adds so much insult to injury on what was already a bad trip.
00:12:04.600I mean, Trudeau isn't directly responsible for the state of that plane, but he's certainly wearing it today.
00:12:09.720I mean, it's just embarrassing when you're trying to play a world player.
00:12:13.120How many countries don't even have a backup plane if their leader got into such a circumstance that they couldn't get them out within 8, 12 hours?
00:17:35.400You know, kids have always gone through a difficult stage in early adolescence, some more so than others.
00:17:45.880But, you know, we've been dealing with this for generations, and generally speaking, between parents and pastors and school counselors, sometimes a family physician, they get them through it.
00:17:58.660And they develop along perfectly expected lines.
00:18:04.220The boys become men, the girls become women, and all the sadness of those early years becomes a memory.
00:18:15.100It isn't an indicator of things to come.
00:18:19.240If somebody feels a bit unsure of themselves when they're 12, it doesn't mean that they were born in the wrong body.
00:18:26.360Unfortunately, there are now people who evidently wish it were so.
00:18:34.360I find it strange that it is so widespread because we never had this problem 50 years ago, 60 years ago.
00:18:41.360But now, in some communities, everybody knows somebody whose kid is transitioning.
00:18:49.360There are other communities, by the way, with different sets of moral standards and different
00:18:55.600sets of expectations where nobody knows anybody like this.
00:19:00.420So maybe there's a cultural thing that's part of this.
00:19:04.300But although I am glad that in New Brunswick and in Ontario, and I believe in Saskatchewan,
00:19:15.220The governments are pushing back against this.
00:21:59.360And people would vote for him on that basis alone, just saying no to nonsense.
00:22:06.360That's some of it. I mean, to note, I looked into, you know, this is a story. It's my columnist Julie Malga. I'm probably destroying the pronunciation of the name.
00:22:16.360I identify as an English speaker, though.
00:22:19.360And coincidentally, her son was born a girl, but she transitioned, announced at eight that she's trans.
00:22:33.140Now she's 11, and they're indulging her and dressing her as a boy and calling her a him.
00:22:37.820It's just, you know what, that's your choice as a parent to indulge that, I guess, and whatever.
00:22:43.580But what you're talking about is taking away the parent's ability to take part in whatever's happening with the child.
00:22:49.920That's where a line is being crossed, whether you're left or right.
00:22:54.460What if your child goes to a Catholic school and you're a progressive and you don't like what the school is teaching the child as far as the faith goes?
00:23:03.520Well, according to this person, you shouldn't have the right to know that.
00:23:07.240It's the school's right to raise your child, not yours.0.51
00:23:09.360That's a big line being crossed with these activists.
00:23:11.660And you have to look at these activists. They were responsible for the entire cancel culture. They were a powerful group and still are. When you get the mob, the bang, Twitter mobs, as I call them, against something, it's very difficult to turn that around.
00:23:32.060But I think people have now had enough. They really had enough. And I think the activists have hopefully met their match in some of the school boards, some of the education ministers, some of the premiers, which are now being involved.
00:23:46.740And I think you're right, Nigel. I mean, it's a common sense way to win an election.
00:23:54.220You know, imagine Trudeau or whoever the opposition is to Paliyev saying, well, no, I don't agree with you.
00:24:02.580I don't think parents should have the right. I mean, that's political suicide.
00:24:07.480Well, you know, apparently he said something like that in India.
00:24:11.960and that probably didn't help how things went there either but it's you know don't mess with
00:24:17.800my kids no but it kind of surprised in a sense i mean they're always watching a convention closely
00:24:22.940to see if something way out there will come out the media is watching the activists are watching
00:24:27.240the liberals are watching and the convention just debated and said we are going to oppose
00:24:33.220medical intervention on children before they're 18 on these transitions and some of the usual
00:24:37.960suspects came out howling about that, but you know, it actually was more muted than I would
00:24:42.200have thought. It wasn't the gotcha moment. And I think even the progressives are realizing
00:24:45.800that the lines would cross. I mean, there are some progressive nations that have that sort
00:24:49.520of policy, Norway, Denmark, I believe, a few of those others, they're pretty progressive,
00:24:53.880but they said, no, no, no, we aren't cutting parts off and we aren't educating these children
00:24:58.880until they're 18. That's it. We can indulge a lot of things, but we're not doing anything
00:25:03.280irreversible until they're adults and I think most people could see it as a
00:25:07.660reasonable common-sense decision just common-sense but well they begin with
00:25:13.600credit for that I think the liberals don't realize that it's not a wedge
00:25:16.480issue yet they're still trying to make it work yeah well I mean the problem with
00:25:20.780the liberals is that they genuinely don't understand that this is highly
00:25:25.600offensive to people I mean this is this is actually undermining truth
00:25:33.280you know we've got this way because we live in a post-modernist age where
00:25:37.520whatever you think is true is true for you good enough well people are starting to say no actually
00:25:44.400there are boys and there are girls they're not the same thing they're not interchangeable and
00:25:49.520that's true that's going to be hard for the progressives people that's deep-seated value
00:25:54.640and this lady that you uh talk about here well i'm i find it i find it a surprising0.58
00:26:01.840point of view for her to take, but at the same time, as you said, she's actually, even
00:26:07.960though she's trying to make an argument against parental rights, she's just demonstrated
00:26:14.020by what she's doing with that child, that as a parent, she can do it.
00:26:20.040Yeah, and, you know, trans people exist. There were men trying to be women 100 years ago.
00:26:26.460You can find some, you know, you never know what Oscar Wilde might have even been into,
00:26:30.200But they've been around, but they've been a tiny minority of individuals.
00:26:34.660And if they're adults and they want to live that way, I'm happy to indulge as much as possible.
00:32:16.420It invites the question, Dave, and I'm going to ask you, do you think that it's actually a plan, an intention to make things more expensive and to impoverish people, or is this just a bureaucracy that is out of control, led by people who don't understand?
00:32:38.060I think you've got a bureaucracy led by Stephen Gilboa, who is a radical activist, and he's happy to do all these things because that achieves his green utopia.
00:32:51.040And I don't think Trudeau's smart enough to realize the damage he's doing.
00:35:25.260imputed income. That was the phrase. It didn't go anywhere, but these people were out there.
00:35:33.020It's the politics of envy. The same activist, one of the statements in his report, even,
00:35:37.560he didn't even sugarcoat the ideology behind it. So people fell into windfall wealth with
00:35:42.480their home ownership as it gained value while they watched TV and drank beer. That's what
00:35:48.420he said in it. They don't recognize that a person had to scrimp and save for years to
00:35:54.020get that down payment, that they had to maintain the house, that they had to put off a lot of other
00:35:57.840purchases. You know, these activists that do this are usually the ones that, oh yeah, I took a three
00:36:03.200year tour backpacking Europe before I came back to Canada to start working on my student loans that
00:36:07.740I feel is unfair that I have to pay back now. Other people put their nose to the grindstone
00:36:12.540and bought a house and now you're saying they shouldn't have the equity within it. It's offensive.
00:36:17.960But it's the way they think. But I mean, another aspect that makes it tough, I got to admit,
00:36:22.080And those of us who did buy the houses, who did our building within them, there's not as much incentive on the part of those voters to see house prices drop.
00:36:34.460No, if you're in the market, you're laughing.
00:43:37.260But when these celebrities go after a business for having dared allow somebody on that,
00:43:42.780And again, the privilege, speaking of this term, they like throwing at us all the time.
00:43:47.060Well, there's a lot of working people that rely on those companies.
00:43:50.420There's a lot of people that you're saying that you want to put out of work.
00:43:53.820You want to reduce the amount of revenue to that company.
00:43:56.720I mean, they really, I don't think that many people are really going to care and reschedule their flights just because Jan Arden won't go on it.
00:44:02.800But the principle of that is actually kind of odious.