Western Standard - The Pipeline： Trudeau's second India trip was no better than his first one

00:00:00.000 good evening welcome to the pipeline this is the western standards weekly panel show where we'll

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00:00:29.760 My name is Corey Morgan. I'm a columnist with the Western Standard, and I'm joined by two other members of the Western Standard.

00:00:37.200 I'll go from end to end. I'll neglect Nigel and start with our news editor, Dave Naylor.

00:00:42.300 Thanks for coming in. It's been a while since you've been on the pipeline.

00:00:45.220 It is. Good to be here. I'm kind of sad you neglected Nigel.

00:00:49.340 Well, Nigel gets a crack at this every week, and this is our opinion editor, Nigel Hannaford.

00:00:54.700 All right, I get used to it.

00:00:55.760 oh yes well you get that final word though throughout the introductions of who maybe

00:01:00.960 no married man ever gets the last word oh that's true i know better than that as well 1.00

00:01:05.760 i like learning things the hard way though three times and then something like that

00:01:11.280 this isn't a marriage advice show this is news and issues and our i think our advice is of more

00:01:16.400 value with that anyways than our uh we'll do a special another time on that and we got lots to

00:01:22.400 to talk about today. I guess we'll get right into it. We'll talk about Trudeau. Our prime minister

00:01:31.180 has gone to India and represented Canada yet again at a G20 summit, Dave. Yeah, and just when

00:01:37.680 he couldn't embarrass us anymore, he finds new ways to do it. You remember his last trip to

00:01:42.680 India, Corey? It was just a debacle. He played Mr. Dress Up, you know, pretended he was a native 1.00

00:01:49.620 Indian, and I think even the Indians were embarrassed for him. But he sort of didn't 0.59

00:01:54.960 learn his lesson this time. He wasn't invited to key meetings. He and the Indian Prime Minister

00:02:04.620 don't get along. They don't like each other. That was plain to see. Judo asked for a private

00:02:10.940 meeting with the Indian Prime Minister. Didn't get one. The only thing, he was asked what Canada

00:02:19.380 had contributed to the final communique. He said gender, language, you know, just blather. And then

00:02:27.740 just when you think you couldn't get any worse, his plane broke down. And he was stuck in India,

00:02:34.120 So they sent a rescue plane to get him, and that turned around just as it got over in Europe because they fixed the plane.

00:02:44.000 So the rescue plane was diverted, and he finally got back to Canada late Tuesday night.

00:02:50.760 So another foreign trip, Nigel, that he won't look back fondly on.

00:02:56.680 Sorry, even though he did take his son.

00:02:58.900 He can't take as the estranged wife, so did take the son out of school and had him crying around in a fancy dress, too.

00:03:06.000 This would be the young man who's one of the kids who wasn't going to be made a spectacle of?

00:03:12.080 Yes, the one that he pleaded for privacy for, correct.

00:03:15.020 Okay. Well, you know, one of the tragic things about this is that Harper left the state of relationships between India and Canada in tremendously good condition.

00:03:31.140 First of all, he and Modi liked each other. I mean, they were both economists, so they would sit there and tell each other economist jokes.

00:03:39.320 Sounds thrilling.

00:03:40.700 Yeah, you know, if all the economists in the world were laid end to end, they still wouldn't reach your conclusion.

00:03:48.200 Oh, that's, you know, tell me another one.

00:03:50.560 But it's the, the fact of the matter is that they, one of the signature accomplishment was to set up a deal for Canada, and more specifically for Saskatchewan, to supply uranium for the Atomic Energy Program in India.

00:04:15.200 And that's what is now on the table in talks that our government, our federal government,

00:04:26.200 our liberal government, the government of Mr. Trudeau has just broken off.

00:04:34.100 You can imagine how they feel in Saskatchewan.

00:04:38.240 You can imagine how they feel in India, but you can imagine how they feel in Saskatchewan.

00:04:42.820 have just been undermined by their own federal government it's kind of how we feel in alberta

00:04:47.860 when we have an environment administrator who wants to shut down our key industry so

00:04:54.580 there's there's that whole aspect to it but the the way in which mr trudeau goes there

00:05:02.980 and seeks to moralize you mentioned the the the lgbt stuff but it goes much deeper than that

00:05:11.220 He has chosen to have opinions about Indian protest movements.

00:05:16.580 And if you want to know how that feels to the Indian government,

00:05:20.100 just imagine Prime Minister Narendra Modi saying,

00:05:25.340 well, you know, it seems to me those convoy guys had a point.

00:05:30.080 They would go nuts in Ottawa if any other foreign leader said that

00:05:37.760 about what is, when all is said and done, an internal matter of dispute.

00:05:42.400 It doesn't matter what you think about the convoy, whether you're for it or against it,

00:05:47.000 to have somebody else from another country weigh in on it would be most unwelcome.

00:05:51.780 And you could see why, therefore, when Mr. Trudeau was saying kind words to,

00:05:58.600 about people who were farmers, I believe they were, a couple of years ago,

00:06:03.260 who were rioting and blockading in India,

00:06:05.280 well you know right to protest peaceful protest this sort of thing didn't go over well and i

00:06:11.760 i can't imagine that he'll ever go back to india as anything other than a tourist

00:06:17.120 well i couldn't imagine it being a top destination for him as a tourist he doesn't have a lot of

00:06:21.040 fond memories i think of his visits i mean just we need dignity on the world stage again you know

00:06:27.840 diplomacy you don't as you said have to agree with every action of the government the leader

00:06:32.880 you're speaking with but when you're at an event like that you set aside some of those things and

00:06:38.000 focus on your common grounds and see if you can make some progress but he's incapable there was

00:06:44.000 a great photo by the canadian press of joe biden wagging his finger right in trudeau's face which

00:06:50.560 none of the mainstream media in canada ran but it just it just shows you what uh what trudeau's

00:06:57.280 thought of on the on the international stage it's just one embarrassment after the other and

00:07:02.880 But, you know, the quicker he retires into Tofino, the better we can get a, you know, get some, start building Canada up again in the world.

00:07:11.700 Because he's let the, you know, the military is now a laughingstock in his relations with India and other, you know, Germany.

00:07:20.440 You know, hey, we'd like some of your natural gas while there's no business, no business plan here.

00:07:24.600 So, yeah, it was a mess and just utter embarrassment.

00:07:29.960 So I guess the question is, will he fight the next election, whenever that is?

00:07:35.400 That's the million-dollar question, isn't it?

00:07:37.700 I mean, there's a part of me that says, oh, yeah, please, because this is not a strong candidate.

00:07:42.880 No, and they're sort of running out of time if he does resign to get a new one in with, you know, six months to a leadership debate,

00:07:50.060 and then the new leader, he'll be like Daniel Smith, not having a lot of time before the next election.

00:07:56.260 beyond, you know, just dealing directly with Modi, which is still frustrating. I mean, India is one

00:08:01.540 of the biggest economies in the world. It's growing. They're coming along. It's not just

00:08:04.640 uranium. Lentils and cereal crops, there's things that primary producers really were looking forward

00:08:09.600 to supplying to India. But there was the G20. There were a whole number of other leaders of

00:08:15.040 other countries there. I mean, a leader could take advantage of that time to have other dialogues or,

00:08:20.520 you know, things such as that. But I didn't see any indication of him doing anything over there.

00:08:25.020 No, there was a lot of pictures of sort of where candidates should be seated, and he wasn't there.

00:08:31.120 Yeah, I think he actually skipped a couple of meetings right at the start.

00:08:33.900 Yeah.

00:08:34.380 But I have to ask you, as Stephen Harper's speechwriter, you've been on this plane that had to be rescued, had to be fixed.

00:08:45.400 What's it like?

00:08:46.260 Is it luxurious and, you know, Air Force One miniature type?

00:08:50.420 No, not at all.

00:08:51.300 It is what it looks like, which is an old airliner.

00:08:56.640 The seats in it are 100% economy class from about row six back.

00:09:04.060 And there is a partition for the Prime Minister's use.

00:09:08.040 If you can picture what a 1960s wind stream trailer would look like on the inside with that fake wood,

00:09:15.640 that's how they have this thing tricked out.

00:09:17.960 They got it from Ward Air, or at least it came from Ward Air via CPR after Ward Air went out of business.

00:09:27.160 And on one of my first trips, the young lady coming down the aisle with the candies and the Cokes and all the rest of the thing, 0.99

00:09:35.140 a little black tray in front of her, and it actually said in yellow, Ward Air.

00:09:40.660 This is on the Prime Minister's plane, you know, years after it had left Ward Air.

00:09:46.820 I'll tell you a little story about the press and why it is so difficult to get this plane changed

00:09:54.540 and why it is difficult to make repairs to things like 24 Sussex Drive.

00:10:01.060 We were on a long flight.

00:10:02.280 I went back there one day to chat with people in the press corps,

00:10:06.280 and a fellow was complaining that it was uncomfortable back there.

00:10:11.560 I won't identify him, but he knows who he is.

00:10:13.440 I'm just really, really uncomfortable back here.

00:10:16.820 And I said, yeah, I kind of sympathize with you.

00:10:21.020 But what would you, like, if we actually announced that we were going to go out and buy a new plane,

00:10:26.280 a comfortable new plane, what would you do?

00:10:28.580 And he said, well, we criticize you, obviously, we pan you for wasting the public money.

00:10:33.120 Well, I guess we're both going to have to get used to economy class for a bit longer then.

00:10:38.500 Because he's absolutely right, and at least he was honest enough to say it.

00:10:43.620 You can't do anything without having the press turn on you

00:10:51.740 as if you were a waster of money.

00:10:54.540 You know, one of the ironic things is that sometimes it needs

00:10:58.120 to be a socialist government, the government of the people

00:11:00.780 to actually get anything like that done.

00:11:02.640 I remember they refurbished the legislature in Victoria.

00:11:07.180 It was the NDP that did it.

00:11:08.900 The Socrates had done it.

00:11:10.640 It would have been a pal plane.

00:11:13.040 And with 24 Sussex Drive, it's the same thing.

00:11:16.420 You'd never get that place fixed up, even if you wanted to.

00:11:19.620 And the will seems to be disappearing because it would just be criticized

00:11:23.400 as a waste of money for the benefit of the pleasure of the incumbent prime minister.

00:11:31.840 The ultimate insult for Trudeau was, you know, Trudeau and Modi hate each other.

00:11:36.080 And when Trudeau's plane couldn't start, Modi took great glee in saying,

00:11:39.960 And Justin, why don't you take my plane home?

00:11:43.060 You can borrow my plane.

00:11:43.900 I can give you a lift.

00:11:44.640 I can, you know, take the official Indian jet.

00:11:47.680 So I'm sure you got to chuckle out of that.

00:11:51.740 And the state of that plane, as is Nigel saying, I mean, it's in multiple governments that for political reasons just haven't kept up with those things.

00:12:00.760 But it just adds so much insult to injury on what was already a bad trip.

00:12:04.600 I mean, Trudeau isn't directly responsible for the state of that plane, but he's certainly wearing it today.

00:12:09.720 I mean, it's just embarrassing when you're trying to play a world player.

00:12:13.120 How many countries don't even have a backup plane if their leader got into such a circumstance that they couldn't get them out within 8, 12 hours?

00:12:19.820 It took two days.

00:12:23.600 I mean, there are some countries that don't even have an official jet.

00:12:26.500 Great Britain does not have an official prime ministerial plane.

00:12:32.180 On the other hand, they've got their pick of British Airways any time they need it.

00:12:37.440 So maybe that's the way to go.

00:12:39.080 Well, and as you said, too, I mean, a conservative government will do it.

00:12:42.000 But in the United States, they've even had some pretty conservative governments.

00:12:44.760 They still maintain the White House, at least, and they'll maintain Air Force One.

00:12:48.540 But perhaps some of the difference, too, is their head of state is the president.

00:12:51.980 Ours, technically, is the governor general.

00:12:55.500 And, boy, we aren't shy on pouring money into her budget and housing and flights and catering.

00:13:01.820 No. I mean, Buckingham Palace in London needed repairs.

00:13:05.000 The repairs were done. It cost a whole bunch of money.

00:13:07.380 you know, the anti-monarchists were probably upset, but it's something that the government

00:13:11.460 realized needed to be done because it's Buckingham Palace. You know, surely as whoever the

00:13:17.060 prime minister is, surely he should be able to live in comfort and, you know, greet world leaders

00:13:23.400 in his house for dinner, and he should be able to fly to these places accompanied by his staff

00:13:31.360 and the media. Right now, Canada, again, lagging behind the world.

00:13:36.020 Well, we'll see. It seems we often wait until things become interminable before we fix them.

00:13:40.740 I guess there are new planes coming down the line.

00:13:42.580 Apparently they have. They've hired, they've bought five new planes. So we'll see.

00:13:47.060 The military has to get trained up on them and whatnot. So hopefully they've got rid of all the

00:13:52.340 ward air trolleys. I think most people wouldn't begrudge the Prime Minister having, no matter

00:13:56.420 whether they like the Prime Minister or not, a safe, secure means of getting to destinations.

00:14:01.300 likewise with accommodations. You know, we don't expect them to stay at the Super 8,

00:14:06.100 but they could probably do better than 6,000 a night. Yeah. You know, Corey, I think you do

00:14:12.260 many Canadians more than justice when they say they don't wish them any harm.

00:14:16.580 But on behalf of all the staffers who travel with the prime minister or whatever party,

00:14:21.460 let me just say, yes, let's have a safe airplane and one that's going to get you home.

00:14:26.020 I want them out through the electoral process or resigning, not through a tragedy with an

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00:16:10.820 next burning issue we've got trans activists trans issues trans trans everything Dave what

00:16:18.180 they finally crossed the line you know if they haven't tipped the the scale it is it's got to

00:16:24.020 be coming pretty close uh you know you're you're seeing uh muslim parents uh protest across the

00:16:30.980 country uh uh against uh you know pronoun use and and gender stuff uh in the school and and this

00:16:40.420 week's been sort of headed off with a toronto star column uh which uh correct me if i'm wrong

00:16:45.940 Nigel, the headline said, parents have no right to know the gender of their child.

00:16:53.860 Oh, it's a privilege, not a right to know your kid's gender identity.

00:16:59.300 I mean, come on.

00:17:01.440 I know the government wants to get involved and have as much control as you can,

00:17:08.080 but there's been a government backlash to this stuff.

00:17:10.420 It started in New Brunswick.

00:17:13.100 Now it's spread to Ontario has said parents have to be involved.

00:17:18.380 Saskatchewan has said parents have to be involved.

00:17:20.680 Manitoba has said it.

00:17:23.100 I think Alberta, when they have their UCP caucus meeting, will undoubtedly say it.

00:17:28.160 But, yeah, I think the balance is finally turning.

00:17:33.680 Yeah, it is.

00:17:35.400 You know, kids have always gone through a difficult stage in early adolescence, some more so than others.

00:17:45.880 But, you know, we've been dealing with this for generations, and generally speaking, between parents and pastors and school counselors, sometimes a family physician, they get them through it.

00:17:58.660 And they develop along perfectly expected lines.

00:18:04.220 The boys become men, the girls become women, and all the sadness of those early years becomes a memory.

00:18:15.100 It isn't an indicator of things to come.

00:18:19.240 If somebody feels a bit unsure of themselves when they're 12, it doesn't mean that they were born in the wrong body.

00:18:26.360 Unfortunately, there are now people who evidently wish it were so.

00:18:34.360 I find it strange that it is so widespread because we never had this problem 50 years ago, 60 years ago.

00:18:41.360 But now, in some communities, everybody knows somebody whose kid is transitioning.

00:18:49.360 There are other communities, by the way, with different sets of moral standards and different

00:18:55.600 sets of expectations where nobody knows anybody like this.

00:19:00.420 So maybe there's a cultural thing that's part of this.

00:19:04.300 But although I am glad that in New Brunswick and in Ontario, and I believe in Saskatchewan,

00:19:15.220 The governments are pushing back against this.

00:19:18.100 They're not pushing back very hard.

00:19:20.840 All they're saying is, if it's going on, the parents have a right to know.

00:19:24.580 Well, good.

00:19:25.220 Yes, they do, and they should.

00:19:29.760 Why are we not putting a stop to this, what would I call it, this proselytation?

00:19:37.720 I'll pick a different word, what I can say after lunch.

00:19:40.300 You know, they actually go out and push this message.

00:19:45.820 Are you sure you're a little boy?

00:19:47.060 How are you feeling today, little girl?

00:19:49.020 No.

00:19:50.200 You need to come down to the office and talk to a counselor.

00:19:52.680 And the first thing, before you know anything that's happened,

00:19:56.100 they whip the kids off to a counselor and then to somebody who can actually help them.

00:20:03.300 What I don't get is these doctors who say, well, you know,

00:20:07.300 they're having gender problems when they're two years old.

00:20:10.300 or three years old or even younger than that some doctors have said you can tell in the womb

00:20:15.180 no offense but come on right i mean if if you played with a barbie when you were a kid one day

00:20:20.620 that doesn't mean you're having gender problems right um and you're right uh you know i remember

00:20:27.900 my kids uh 20 years ago they didn't have these problems and certainly nobody in their schools

00:20:35.100 that we were aware of had any of these problems but you're right it's becoming it's becoming pushed

00:20:41.340 and pushed and pushed into into kids by the media a lot and by activists uh a lot that uh oh yeah

00:20:50.300 you know maybe i do want to be a girl and uh i think it's changing yeah i think the story here

00:20:57.260 is that um parents will put up with a lot but when they actually feel they don't even know what's

00:21:04.860 going on with her own child and wait a minute and they push back and the politicians are listening

00:21:11.380 they may not be doing all that nigel hennifer thinks that the politicians should be doing 0.99

00:21:15.780 but they're doing something and i would say that this is a um this could well be something that

00:21:23.860 the conservatives pick up on and will do them nothing but good pierre poliver is very public

00:21:32.540 that he is pro-choice.

00:21:34.700 But I don't think that Pierre

00:21:36.600 Polliver is

00:21:38.460 in favor of somebody

00:21:40.460 coming to his kids

00:21:42.400 in school and saying

00:21:44.460 I'm tempted to say, are you sure you're not a liberal?

00:21:49.220 But

00:21:49.260 he's got a young daughter

00:21:52.480 that age. I think she's five.

00:21:54.920 Are you sure you're not a little boy?

00:21:57.160 He would go

00:21:58.520 eight core of that.

00:21:59.360 And people would vote for him on that basis alone, just saying no to nonsense.

00:22:06.360 That's some of it. I mean, to note, I looked into, you know, this is a story. It's my columnist Julie Malga. I'm probably destroying the pronunciation of the name.

00:22:16.360 I identify as an English speaker, though.

00:22:19.360 And coincidentally, her son was born a girl, but she transitioned, announced at eight that she's trans.

00:22:33.140 Now she's 11, and they're indulging her and dressing her as a boy and calling her a him.

00:22:37.820 It's just, you know what, that's your choice as a parent to indulge that, I guess, and whatever.

00:22:43.580 But what you're talking about is taking away the parent's ability to take part in whatever's happening with the child.

00:22:49.920 That's where a line is being crossed, whether you're left or right.

00:22:53.100 Don't always assume your school.

00:22:54.460 What if your child goes to a Catholic school and you're a progressive and you don't like what the school is teaching the child as far as the faith goes?

00:23:03.520 Well, according to this person, you shouldn't have the right to know that.

00:23:07.240 It's the school's right to raise your child, not yours. 0.51

00:23:09.360 That's a big line being crossed with these activists.

00:23:11.660 And you have to look at these activists. They were responsible for the entire cancel culture. They were a powerful group and still are. When you get the mob, the bang, Twitter mobs, as I call them, against something, it's very difficult to turn that around.

00:23:32.060 But I think people have now had enough. They really had enough. And I think the activists have hopefully met their match in some of the school boards, some of the education ministers, some of the premiers, which are now being involved.

00:23:46.740 And I think you're right, Nigel. I mean, it's a common sense way to win an election.

00:23:54.220 You know, imagine Trudeau or whoever the opposition is to Paliyev saying, well, no, I don't agree with you.

00:24:02.580 I don't think parents should have the right. I mean, that's political suicide.

00:24:07.480 Well, you know, apparently he said something like that in India.

00:24:11.960 and that probably didn't help how things went there either but it's you know don't mess with

00:24:17.800 my kids no but it kind of surprised in a sense i mean they're always watching a convention closely

00:24:22.940 to see if something way out there will come out the media is watching the activists are watching

00:24:27.240 the liberals are watching and the convention just debated and said we are going to oppose

00:24:33.220 medical intervention on children before they're 18 on these transitions and some of the usual

00:24:37.960 suspects came out howling about that, but you know, it actually was more muted than I would

00:24:42.200 have thought. It wasn't the gotcha moment. And I think even the progressives are realizing

00:24:45.800 that the lines would cross. I mean, there are some progressive nations that have that sort

00:24:49.520 of policy, Norway, Denmark, I believe, a few of those others, they're pretty progressive,

00:24:53.880 but they said, no, no, no, we aren't cutting parts off and we aren't educating these children

00:24:58.880 until they're 18. That's it. We can indulge a lot of things, but we're not doing anything

00:25:03.280 irreversible until they're adults and I think most people could see it as a

00:25:07.660 reasonable common-sense decision just common-sense but well they begin with

00:25:13.600 credit for that I think the liberals don't realize that it's not a wedge

00:25:16.480 issue yet they're still trying to make it work yeah well I mean the problem with

00:25:20.780 the liberals is that they genuinely don't understand that this is highly

00:25:25.600 offensive to people I mean this is this is actually undermining truth

00:25:33.280 you know we've got this way because we live in a post-modernist age where

00:25:37.520 whatever you think is true is true for you good enough well people are starting to say no actually

00:25:44.400 there are boys and there are girls they're not the same thing they're not interchangeable and

00:25:49.520 that's true that's going to be hard for the progressives people that's deep-seated value

00:25:54.640 and this lady that you uh talk about here well i'm i find it i find it a surprising 0.58

00:26:01.840 point of view for her to take, but at the same time, as you said, she's actually, even

00:26:07.960 though she's trying to make an argument against parental rights, she's just demonstrated

00:26:14.020 by what she's doing with that child, that as a parent, she can do it.

00:26:20.040 Yeah, and, you know, trans people exist. There were men trying to be women 100 years ago.

00:26:26.460 You can find some, you know, you never know what Oscar Wilde might have even been into,

00:26:30.200 But they've been around, but they've been a tiny minority of individuals.

00:26:34.660 And if they're adults and they want to live that way, I'm happy to indulge as much as possible.

00:26:39.180 But they ask us to set aside reality.

00:26:41.220 And I don't think most trans people do. 0.52

00:26:42.480 I think it's the activists.

00:26:43.620 I mean, when they're saying that a man can subtly say, I'm a woman, and enter a weightlifting contest,

00:26:48.700 you're asking us to set aside physiological reality.

00:26:52.980 They pushed it well outside into the absurd.

00:26:56.820 Yeah, well, men now rule women's sports. 1.00

00:26:59.000 Yeah.

00:27:00.200 You know, that's what it's become.

00:27:01.840 That's one of the features of the cultural revolution we're looking for,

00:27:05.080 is that whatever is the latest victim group gets to assert its moment in the sun,

00:27:11.640 and the last one gets cast aside.

00:27:14.860 What price feminism now? 1.00

00:27:17.560 You know, trans rules, you want to assert your rights as a woman? 1.00

00:27:23.320 You know, move over. 0.99

00:27:24.820 We've got a man who can lift a heavier weight than you,

00:27:28.200 Swim faster? Run faster?

00:27:30.320 We've won the battle of the sexes. 0.75

00:27:32.140 We've won the battle of the sexes. 0.75

00:27:34.300 Took it back.

00:27:35.560 I don't know. How far do we go

00:27:37.800 with indulgence? A person

00:27:39.680 identifies as such fine, but a person

00:27:41.860 identifies as Napoleon. We don't give them a couple

00:27:43.620 divisions and say go to Europe.

00:27:45.380 You can only

00:27:46.700 go so far. I mean, we want to be

00:27:49.800 accommodating.

00:27:52.480 I think the line crossed

00:27:53.660 is children, though. Leave the kids

00:27:55.760 alone.

00:27:56.420 Yeah, you know, actually, you offered that as a throwaway line, Corey, but that's a good point to take home.

00:28:03.500 If somebody identified as, well, you said Napoleon, all right, somebody identifies as Napoleon, you know where that's going.

00:28:13.880 That's for counseling, and ultimately, if they can't shake them of it, polite confinement, where they can't do any harm.

00:28:25.500 the loony bin is that what you're trying to say dave don't be so crass napoleon he can invade france

00:28:32.220 or invade england from the loony bin yeah i took it down the wrong line because i mean i

00:28:37.180 a person who's identifying as a different gender is certainly not conventional in thinking but i

00:28:42.620 think it can be adults without causing any harm and they can live a life as such i wouldn't call it a

00:28:47.100 uh yeah as bad a mental illness perhaps as a thinking you're a long dead uh french general

00:28:53.900 Oh, I don't know, which is less harmful, really. 0.62

00:28:57.540 I mean, at least the guy who's the long dead general can parade around in uniform and border people around, but nobody's listening.

00:29:03.820 He's not changing society.

00:29:06.100 His thing.

00:29:07.540 His authority is still pretty limited in reality.

00:29:11.940 Well, I can't go further with this one.

00:29:15.240 No, no, it's time to change something.

00:29:17.300 Sure, let's get on to housing, of course, and that's a huge one right now, affordability.

00:29:21.540 Everybody's feeling it.

00:29:22.400 i think we're all feeling it when we look at kids grandkids or whatever wondering how on earth are

00:29:26.080 they making ends meet or even people uh more age if they don't haven't locked into a good mortgage

00:29:33.680 already and they're renting it's getting bad and uh ottawa's making it worse as usual it seems

00:29:39.760 but dave we've got some green coats yeah no shocker there from ottawa the uh fraser institute did a

00:29:45.920 big study on what the new liberal uh plans for greening your house and reducing emissions from

00:29:51.840 your house uh we're not talking about you after your chili fest uh you know emissions from your

00:29:58.480 house green emissions and the the fraser institute says in british columbia those those rules were

00:30:05.760 will add an extra 85 000 to the price of a new home 85 000 this uh i mean keep in mind the

00:30:14.000 average price in vancouver is already over a million dollars and now it's going to be another

00:30:17.600 85 000 uh in alberta it's going to add 35 000 to to the price of the home uh premier smith was quick

00:30:27.120 to jump on that yesterday and uh sent out a tweet saying look this is you know another kick in the

00:30:34.880 and the growing to alberta and we're not going to put up with it and and all that kind of stuff but

00:30:40.960 It's, you know, a carbon tax, now green energy houses.

00:30:45.900 They're pricing Canadians out of livability is what they're doing.

00:30:51.740 Just think of trying to save $85,000 as a down payment.

00:30:57.600 It takes years.

00:30:59.580 And now they're adding years onto people being able to save up this extra $85,000.

00:31:04.420 It's crazy.

00:31:04.800 Well, $85,000 is one big expense.

00:31:09.020 The other big expense is the cost of the paperwork that goes into getting a permit to even begin to build a house.

00:31:19.980 And then as you're building it, you complete it.

00:31:22.500 It has been calculated that that million-dollar house that you're speaking of in Vancouver,

00:31:29.880 $300,000 of that is in everything except wood and gyprock and concrete and all the, what

00:31:41.380 they used to call the soft costs when they were…

00:31:44.440 The gatekeepers now.

00:31:45.440 The gatekeepers.

00:31:46.440 Yeah.

00:31:47.440 Well, I mean, whether you're a liberal or a conservative, you want a house to live

00:31:51.380 in.

00:31:52.380 And so you should be listening to somebody who's got a sense

00:31:56.420 of why things cost what they cost.

00:31:59.260 To then add this other green charge on the top,

00:32:02.940 you end up with a $600,000 house

00:32:05.800 for which you're going to pay a million dollars.

00:32:08.180 And then you've got to buy the lot.

00:32:09.480 And then, of course, who knows what that can cost you

00:32:12.260 in Vancouver or Calgary or Toronto.

00:32:16.420 It invites the question, Dave, and I'm going to ask you, do you think that it's actually a plan, an intention to make things more expensive and to impoverish people, or is this just a bureaucracy that is out of control, led by people who don't understand?

00:32:38.060 I think you've got a bureaucracy led by Stephen Gilboa, who is a radical activist, and he's happy to do all these things because that achieves his green utopia.

00:32:51.040 And I don't think Trudeau's smart enough to realize the damage he's doing.

00:32:56.500 Or alternatively, he's all for it.

00:32:59.220 Exactly, he's all for it.

00:33:00.400 I mean, Corey here has written and spoken several times about the plan to drive us off the roads.

00:33:06.940 drive us off the roads, make our houses unaffordable. What exactly is the vision of

00:33:11.020 society that this conjures up? Well, I mean, my thoughts are for some, some it's just,

00:33:16.540 yeah, bureaucrats being bureaucrats, they support bloat, they support delays, it's just their nature. 0.89

00:33:21.340 But some, I think there is an ugly ideology underneath. I think Gilboa is one of those. They

00:33:25.900 see humanity as a negative thing. They see it as a bad thing that needs to be

00:33:30.620 sidelined, reduced, and it's also backdoor communism. If we can keep, I mean, the solution

00:33:38.440 always when it becomes untenable, well, the state has to step in them. The state will have to build

00:33:43.340 the housing. The state will build those brilliant Soviet style long row apartments that I got to see

00:33:49.840 back at the end of the 80s when I toured over there. Yeah, you don't freeze to death. You didn't

00:33:54.180 starve to death over there, but boy, you sure weren't living. But they realize that people

00:33:59.080 won't vote directly for that sort of policy but you can really incrementally put people into that

00:34:04.600 corner and you make it more and more unaffordable the state keeps assuming that rule and uh you know

00:34:10.520 you bring in more things wealth taxes that was the latest too we're gonna hit the rich and save

00:34:15.080 the poor but it never works just wait till they tax your uh capital gains your your you know how

00:34:21.960 much money you've made on the house which is the retirement plan for most canadians and the

00:34:27.000 The government takes 30% out of that.

00:34:28.840 Wow.

00:34:29.600 So is that, is that looted?

00:34:31.620 No, it's, you know, the CMHC always talks about it.

00:34:34.740 They're always preparing reports.

00:34:36.480 At their last cabinet retreat, I talked about that before.

00:34:39.600 The Liberals brought an activist.

00:34:41.000 He was the one who keeps writing those reports,

00:34:42.700 calling for an equity tax on primary residences

00:34:46.060 as their guest speaker to talk to them.

00:34:48.800 Well, if you really aren't going down that road,

00:34:52.200 as they keep denying it every time it's brought up,

00:34:53.780 then why do you keep studying it

00:34:55.260 and listening to the people who are promoting it.

00:34:57.740 You know, they tried that 40 years ago,

00:34:59.160 and of course it went nowhere to heaven,

00:35:01.140 but the idea was that if you owned your house outright,

00:35:04.060 then you had an advantage against somebody who didn't.

00:35:06.800 The fact that you'd earned it and paid for it

00:35:08.520 and done everything right to put yourself there

00:35:10.960 wasn't considered.

00:35:12.540 The idea was that if your house commanded

00:35:15.840 a certain rental value,

00:35:18.500 if it would rent for $1,000 a month, $2,000 a month,

00:35:22.300 well, that's like having extra income, isn't it?

00:35:24.140 So you should be taxed on that.

00:35:25.260 imputed income. That was the phrase. It didn't go anywhere, but these people were out there.

00:35:33.020 It's the politics of envy. The same activist, one of the statements in his report, even,

00:35:37.560 he didn't even sugarcoat the ideology behind it. So people fell into windfall wealth with

00:35:42.480 their home ownership as it gained value while they watched TV and drank beer. That's what

00:35:48.420 he said in it. They don't recognize that a person had to scrimp and save for years to

00:35:54.020 get that down payment, that they had to maintain the house, that they had to put off a lot of other

00:35:57.840 purchases. You know, these activists that do this are usually the ones that, oh yeah, I took a three

00:36:03.200 year tour backpacking Europe before I came back to Canada to start working on my student loans that

00:36:07.740 I feel is unfair that I have to pay back now. Other people put their nose to the grindstone

00:36:12.540 and bought a house and now you're saying they shouldn't have the equity within it. It's offensive.

00:36:17.960 But it's the way they think. But I mean, another aspect that makes it tough, I got to admit,

00:36:22.080 And those of us who did buy the houses, who did our building within them, there's not as much incentive on the part of those voters to see house prices drop.

00:36:34.460 No, if you're in the market, you're laughing.

00:36:36.660 Yeah.

00:36:37.060 If you're not in the market, you're crying.

00:36:38.800 To be fair, I'm not saying the market should be crushed, but it does make it a little more politically difficult.

00:36:42.620 You don't want to sell to people.

00:36:44.020 By the way, we're going to reduce at least the speed of the appreciation of your asset.

00:36:47.540 but it's we're getting so much immigration and refugees and whatnot if we don't have places

00:36:54.100 to house them it's going to be chaos in cities across the country you know 100 you know how many

00:37:02.080 immigrants coming this year 500 000 i don't know whether anybody really knows because

00:37:07.160 there are people who come in by the airport hand in their paperwork there's also folks who come in

00:37:12.820 as students and then just kind of regularize their their status here fine you know except that

00:37:19.220 what numbers are being counted when the government defends its immigration record i think we had a

00:37:25.700 story uh this morning did we not that um we need three million houses by 2035 is that right sounds

00:37:35.620 like a right figure yeah and i mean i don't want to just repeat campaign propaganda but

00:37:42.580 i guess the oliver wouldn't have said it if it couldn't be justified that we actually built less

00:37:48.820 houses last year than we did in 1975 which is insane if we're going to have population growth

00:37:56.180 all that no one to minimize the effect of gatekeepers and all the things that we've just

00:38:00.420 been talking about that drives up house prices as well but if you then just create a

00:38:05.620 a demand that pushes the prices up even further the only the only possible

00:38:13.620 outcome is utter chaos and a demand as you said for the government to do

00:38:20.140 something and what will the government do is it going to be ACCO camps you know

00:38:26.080 well I mean we can do two things we can reduce the demand that's what the

00:38:30.280 government has within its control with immigration but they won't even whisper 1.00

00:38:34.240 mentioned that or build more supply but as we've seen it that was what you're speaking of is from

00:38:39.120 a cmhc memo that went to trudeau a year ago and he didn't act on it and it was saying we are coming

00:38:44.960 up short by a couple hundred thousand how units a year on what we feel we'll need within the next

00:38:50.800 seven years so it's cumulatively going to get worse well corey is it going to be the same people

00:38:55.120 who criticize you if you drive an suv and may even let your tires down overnight who are going to say

00:39:01.120 well if you're living in a house and you don't have somebody staying in your basement you're a 0.93

00:39:04.800 selfish pig is that going to be guilt tripping people who i absolutely expect that social 0.99

00:39:10.400 pressure to start coming up just the same people who say excess profits those two words when they 0.96

00:39:15.360 stick them together just uh great on my nerves you know uh because then it starts building that

00:39:20.800 presumption that you are entitled to what you might have earned with a business you aren't

00:39:24.880 entitled in that spare room once your kid moved out of it yeah no you know one of the things that

00:39:29.040 most people whenever i hear that phrase about excess profits or pay fairing fair share of taxes

00:39:34.960 fair share yes yeah i always i always remember that people earning over i think it's over top

00:39:42.240 the top one percent of canadian taxpayers highest incomes pay something like 40 of the entire tax

00:39:51.760 burden uh that everybody pays and if you drop that down from the top two one percent but down

00:39:57.280 down to the top 10%, it's something like 90%

00:40:00.520 of all taxes paid are by the top earning.

00:40:03.880 So how much more of a fair share could there even be?

00:40:07.220 Nevermind, should there be, how much could there be?

00:40:10.820 40% of people, by the time you, 40% of taxpayers,

00:40:14.280 by the time you balance out the taxes they pay

00:40:19.040 and the benefits they receive from government,

00:40:21.340 or even Stephen, 40%?

00:40:23.280 Yeah, the fair share is never enough for some of the ideologues.

00:40:28.800 So we will wrap up, though, with pivoting to another of the entitled, and she really is.

00:40:34.320 Jan Arden is resurfaced.

00:40:37.220 I mean, she's kind of a yesterday's person, but she's still lurking out there and making noise, I guess trying to become relevant.

00:40:44.980 Maybe she accomplished it. 0.96

00:40:46.300 We're talking about it.

00:40:47.320 She was insensitive, so to speak.

00:40:49.660 Sorry about that.

00:40:51.180 Yeah, and, you know, she's not a nobody.

00:40:53.280 who was a stampede parade marshal a couple years ago so uh got her own tv show and whatnot but

00:41:00.080 holy cow she lost her mind when pierre poly of flying home to calgary from quebec city on the 0.96

00:41:05.760 weekend had the audacity to take the pa system and make a short 45 second speech announcement

00:41:14.160 you know it was kind of funny saying you know rough weather for the next two years but then

00:41:18.160 And we'll get through it.

00:41:20.340 And, yeah, she lost her mind, said she's going to boycott WestJet and then fly with him again.

00:41:25.800 Good luck with her, Canada, Jen. 0.94

00:41:30.180 Yeah, and the Twitter reaction was swift and severe.

00:41:35.400 You know, she wasn't even on the flight and she was complaining.

00:41:37.400 And people took her to task, quite rightly, I think.

00:41:42.800 We haven't heard anything that she's going to apologize.

00:41:45.820 No, I don't think.

00:41:46.700 Will she?

00:41:47.260 I don't think she will.

00:41:48.020 And, you know, she just wants attention, so she got it. 0.99

00:41:51.180 Darn it, we played into her hand, Dave. 0.98

00:41:53.940 How do we do this to ourselves? 1.00

00:41:55.740 She really is humorless.

00:41:57.280 She blogged me on Twitter a couple of years.

00:41:59.500 I know, it's a long list of people who have.

00:42:03.120 I mean, in this case, I was trying to play a bit of humor and a musical reference.

00:42:06.820 I'll just give that story.

00:42:08.020 She put out a tweet, just throwing it out there.

00:42:10.340 There was some sort of event in Las Vegas.

00:42:12.720 And she posted a link and said, come on, girls, who wants a girl's week? 0.92

00:42:18.020 weekend out. Everybody join me. We can fly down for this event. And she'd not long before that

00:42:22.200 been shooting at Alberta's oil sands, of course, which is popular among people who benefit from

00:42:26.600 Alberta's money. So I said along the lines, well, you can't do that. It wouldn't be environmentally

00:42:31.500 friendly. It's inappropriate. You and your friends need to get on your bikes and ride,

00:42:35.900 which was a nice reference to a Queen song about fat bottom girls. And I thought she would have 0.99

00:42:40.640 seen the humor in it. And it got me an insta block out of the whole affair. But

00:42:44.940 The song was even blocked on the Queen's

00:42:48.800 new, you know,

00:42:50.660 Best Hits albums. They didn't put that one

00:42:52.560 on there because of the woke

00:42:54.400 aspect. I don't get that. We're not supposed to

00:42:56.600 weight shame? Fair enough. We should be more 0.98

00:42:58.520 considerate of people? Fine.

00:43:00.820 But I mean, that was a song celebrating

00:43:02.960 the beauty of women

00:43:04.720 with a few extra pounds out of them.

00:43:07.120 How is it now inappropriate? We can't

00:43:08.720 see the wind. Otherwise, you know, maybe

00:43:10.460 everybody just needs to lighten up. That would

00:43:12.600 be really a nice change, wouldn't it?

00:43:14.680 Wouldn't that be an idea?

00:43:15.680 What would we have to talk about, then?

00:43:18.020 Oh, we'd find something.

00:43:19.260 I suppose we would.

00:43:20.100 I mean, we can find things.

00:43:21.180 The ones who would like not.

00:43:21.700 It's what we're talking about.

00:43:22.780 Find things to get wound up about, though, without, you know, losing our sense of humor.

00:43:28.540 I mean, with Arden, though, I mean, there was a point made.

00:43:31.840 Makachuk wrote about it, and I think Slobodin would have touched this.

00:43:35.780 Yes, he did.

00:43:37.260 But when these celebrities go after a business for having dared allow somebody on that,

00:43:42.780 And again, the privilege, speaking of this term, they like throwing at us all the time.

00:43:47.060 Well, there's a lot of working people that rely on those companies.

00:43:50.420 There's a lot of people that you're saying that you want to put out of work.

00:43:53.820 You want to reduce the amount of revenue to that company.

00:43:56.720 I mean, they really, I don't think that many people are really going to care and reschedule their flights just because Jan Arden won't go on it.

00:44:02.800 But the principle of that is actually kind of odious.

00:44:05.520 She's a Calgary songwriter.

00:44:06.900 She's Calgary live, lives in just outside Calgary, made a career.

00:44:10.720 you know a lot of what's happened in calgary as i said she's been a grand parade marshal at the

00:44:16.980 calgary stampede and then to go and attack a calgary-based airline she's struggling still 0.98

00:44:22.640 to get back up after the covid thing it was just just silly you know jan stick to trying to save

00:44:29.300 horses being shipped off to to asia good on you for that but uh give it up on western yeah

00:44:36.820 Of all things to make a fuss about, frankly.

00:44:44.140 Why?

00:44:45.260 First world problems.

00:44:47.480 And as was pointed out, it was just thin-skinned.

00:44:50.140 I mean, hey, you're a celebrity.

00:44:50.900 You take part in politics.

00:44:51.920 You can say, oh, look, it's Pollyov being shallow and playing to his crowd on a plane. 1.00

00:44:56.960 What a clown. 0.99

00:44:58.360 Case closed. 0.99

00:44:58.880 Move on.

00:44:59.960 But it's a call for a boycott.

00:45:01.660 It's just...

00:45:02.500 there were some great uh things on twitter yesterday of liberals making announcements yes

00:45:08.020 they had the uh algebra or whatever his name is on the when he was transportation minister

00:45:13.300 you know making an announcement on a via train and uh apparently i i haven't seen it but apparently

00:45:19.300 there's footage out there of trudeau on a plane doing uh doing the same thing we'll get on west

00:45:23.780 yet they didn't apologize no but apparently they are looking at their rules again to see

00:45:28.980 if they should be changed well let's hope they stand strong let's hope they stand strong yeah

00:45:33.620 the only question would be if passengers complain if they complain okay well you paid for a flight

00:45:37.540 you didn't want that but i didn't hear about any passengers you know if i ever find myself

00:45:42.100 on a west jet flight and i find myself seated by beside jan arden i will not tweet about it

00:45:51.220 no i will just take it as this is life we have we have a word that was a big we have a word that was

00:45:58.660 invented the last couple of years to describe people like Jan Arden. Karen's.

00:46:02.900 Yes. Why that's Linda Slobodian's line, please everybody go and read it.

00:46:09.700 It's kind of sad. I'll close off just with one that one note. When all the baby names are coming

00:46:14.420 up and everything, Karen's a very popular name. The mother of my first son's named Karen. Not a

00:46:18.980 single child was named Karen the other year in Alberta. Like that, that name has social media

00:46:24.580 and trends have actually completely destroyed

00:46:27.140 what used to be a popular name.

00:46:28.760 It might take another generation 0.99

00:46:30.000 to go see new Karens on the block.

00:46:33.260 Jan will go all on for it, I guess.

00:46:35.660 On the other hand, among your admiring fans,

00:46:38.400 there are new Kareys being born every year. 0.98

00:46:41.180 Oh, that's a popular 70s name,

00:46:42.900 but still some of that.

00:46:45.520 All right, well, we'll close it on that positive note.

00:46:48.720 And thank you all for tuning in, guys.

00:46:50.900 Even those of you named Karen or Jan,

00:46:52.960 we do appreciate all of you and be sure to check in with us again next week we'll be doing this

00:47:00.180 all over again so thank you nigel and dave always a pleasure and thank you jan for giving us

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The Pipeline： Trudeau's second India trip was no better than his first one

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