Western Standard - The Pipeline： Trudeau says no gas for Europe

00:00:00.000 Good evening, I'm Derek Fildebrand, publisher of the Western Standard, and you're watching

00:00:23.340 the pipeline today is august 24th it's a very exciting day lots of change around here uh i'm

00:00:31.180 joined as usual by the western standards cory morgan and uh this is actually cory's first day

00:00:38.700 in a new role as uh senior columnist yes new but reduced role i'm sliding backwards it's a devolution

00:00:48.700 he was not demoted uh this is just uh cory cory wanted to step back a bit from uh being here every

00:00:54.540 single day it'll be more of a part-time thing and uh actually some some good news for you uh we

00:01:00.940 received a lot of really heartfelt some very interesting emails and messages about people

00:01:06.460 who are upset that triggered uh was was being cancelled and uh one woman in particular uh

00:01:13.180 janet something she uh she offered to buy a piece of cory's clipped off tie and she just she missed

00:01:19.620 the show uh so much already and so i was convinced that we're actually going to by popular demand

00:01:26.700 bring triggered back already it's only been off for a week uh we're going to bring it back as a

00:01:32.300 once a week show uh probably going to be still on wednesdays as normal uh cory maybe just say

00:01:37.920 something quickly about what triggered is going to look like sure i mean we might uh well nico

00:01:41.580 and I are going to work on that through the week might rebrand a couple of things it'll be weekly

00:01:45.440 I think we want to stick to the live thing because that was a lot of what our show was about was the

00:01:49.520 interactivity with the audience and that and the regular viewers watched it on their lunch break

00:01:54.580 so we're looking at the same time slot just once a week on Wednesday we'll break up the week and

00:01:58.620 have a similar show to what I did yeah I'm really excited about speaking of changes the guy who's

00:02:05.260 coughing beside me here, Nigel Henniford. Nigel, this is his first day as the new opinion editor

00:02:12.180 of the Western Standard. Welcome aboard. Thank you, Derek. It's great to be back in Alberta

00:02:18.780 Media again. It's been a while. You know, there's, I can't think of a more English name than Nigel.

00:02:24.380 Maybe Archibald. I've never met an Archibald, but there are Nigels everywhere. Once there were three 1.00

00:02:29.320 of them in the Prime Minister's office, so there you go. There you go. So yeah, Nigel has alluded

00:02:34.260 just some of his past, comes to us with really just a wealth of experience, was a senior columnist,

00:02:40.380 a member of the editorial board at the Calgary Herald. That's right. And then after that, 2009

00:02:45.980 to 2015, the senior speechwriter and manager of the speechwriting office in the prime minister's

00:02:51.560 office of Stephen Harper. That's correct. So we're really fortunate to have someone as experienced

00:02:57.100 and, dare I say, seasoned.

00:02:59.560 That was not an old joke.

00:03:01.960 Seasoned as Nigel coming on as our opinion editor.

00:03:05.180 Very excited.

00:03:06.660 And it was actually a great day to have both Corey and Nigel in the office

00:03:09.820 because they've had to duck out early.

00:03:13.260 So it works out well.

00:03:15.400 Okay.

00:03:16.960 We've got some interesting topics today.

00:03:21.000 You know, we've been saying it for a while,

00:03:22.820 that, you know, Europe, Germany in particular, but Europe in general, is captive to the real 0.65

00:03:33.240 cudgel that Russia holds over it, which is natural gas. Europeans will freeze without natural gas.

00:03:38.280 A lot of us have been talking, not just in the Western Standard, but just anyone with common

00:03:42.580 sense saying, well, why doesn't Canada, which is a natural gas superpower, export to Europe? And

00:03:49.100 And we had the German Chancellor in Canada just yesterday, and he was quite explicit that he wants to see Canada exporting liquefied natural and national gas to Europe.

00:04:05.400 And Justin Trudeau just says, no, no, no, you're going to keep getting it from the Russians or you're going to freeze in the dark.

00:04:11.620 So we're going to talk about that. As well, we're going to talk about a very, very serious scandal. Everyone talking about Handshakegate. You see, Pierre Trudeau shook the hand of a guy at a campaign event. And it doesn't matter, there was one of several thousand people. This guy, the media say, is a bad guy. And therefore, Pierre Poliver is a racist and sexist and misogynist and Islamophobe, whatever these things are.

00:04:41.620 The media have absolutely had a meltdown over Handshake Gate.

00:04:45.440 We're going to talk about what the hell this controversy is.

00:04:48.220 Is it a real controversy? Spoiler, it's not.

00:04:51.480 And what's it saying about the state of the media and the more leftward political parties right now

00:04:57.220 as they absolutely wring their hands over Handshake Gate.

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00:06:44.180 All right.

00:06:45.340 So we're going to get into it.

00:06:48.740 We've been talking for a very, very long time now about building energy infrastructure pipelines to get Western oil and gas from here to there, to the East Coast,

00:07:01.500 that we could export to European and African markets. We had Energy East, and that was,

00:07:09.820 they pulled the pin on it themselves because the federal government destroyed any business case

00:07:13.900 for it. Now we had Olaf Scholz, the German chancellor, and this is not a very conservative

00:07:22.780 guy. He's a social democrat in a coalition with the Green Party. And I tell you, you think our

00:07:27.020 Greens are crazy. You should see the German Greens. This is literally the original Green 1.00

00:07:30.460 party in the country. These guys make Elizabeth May look like Stephen Harper. They're absolutely

00:07:36.540 nuts. And even that government is saying, we need Canadian liquefied natural gas.

00:07:43.020 Justin Trudeau says, no, there's no business case for it.

00:07:46.620 And I say, if there is no business case, then it is because of the policies and the actions

00:07:54.140 of the Canadian federal government. Under the Harper administration, there was every incentive,

00:08:01.100 every encouragement for Western producers to drill for oil, drill for natural gas,

00:08:08.300 to build the pipelines that it took to get to market. As soon as the present liberal government

00:08:14.140 came into office, the first thing they did was scrap the Northern Gateway gas pipeline

00:08:21.660 that would have taken natural gas from Alberta, northeastern BC, to the coast for sale offshore.

00:08:29.740 It was fully permitted and ready to go. It was just cancelled. The second thing they did was to

00:08:36.140 review Energy East. That was TransCanada's pipeline to take gas in the other direction.

00:08:41.820 And what did they do? They basically ragged it to death with regulations. 0.53

00:08:46.220 every time you turn around

00:08:49.280 there needed to be a new study

00:08:50.980 there had to be something else

00:08:52.180 that needed to be done

00:08:53.460 and in the end

00:08:54.580 after sinking literally billions of dollars

00:08:56.500 into the regulatory process

00:08:58.060 TransCanada

00:08:59.580 and nobody blamed them

00:09:01.020 said we've had enough

00:09:02.660 and there it stopped

00:09:04.060 so now

00:09:05.260 by the way that pipeline

00:09:06.920 if it had been done

00:09:08.000 according to the

00:09:10.260 the schedule that had been laid down

00:09:12.480 that would have been in operation

00:09:14.100 by now

00:09:14.780 two years

00:09:15.860 and it would have been in a position to relieve the distress and misery

00:09:20.920 that Germans are likely to experience this winter

00:09:24.540 unless they can find gas from somewhere else.

00:09:27.520 That sounds like a good column to write about.

00:09:29.480 Where would we be right now?

00:09:31.000 It's actually half written.

00:09:32.620 Pardon?

00:09:33.320 It's actually half written.

00:09:34.160 Oh, see how efficient this guy is.

00:09:36.760 That's beautiful.

00:09:38.580 Yeah, right now the German government is actually rationing natural gas right now

00:09:42.580 so they can try and build up their reserves for winter.

00:09:46.420 They're planning on having,

00:09:48.740 they're trying to make sure people don't freeze.

00:09:51.340 And I mean, it's third world kind of stuff you'd expect. 1.00

00:09:56.140 Now, the Germans are to blame for a lot of this. 1.00

00:09:59.000 Their radical push towards green energy there

00:10:02.540 has been a disaster.

00:10:04.140 They're now reopening coal-fired power plants

00:10:05.880 because they shut down all their nuclear. 0.51

00:10:08.920 But now, you know, this is not, Corey,

00:10:10.880 just us saying it anymore. It's not just right-wing oil baron Albertan saying it. You've got

00:10:18.520 the left-wing, very green chancellor of a European left-leaning country saying to Trudeau, he was

00:10:28.760 saying in pretty clear, diplomatic and friendly language, but he was pretty explicit in his

00:10:34.480 press conference and then in an interview with the CBC afterwards, they want this done, that

00:10:40.020 Germany is right now building the infrastructure on its North Sea coast to be able to receive LNG

00:10:46.260 by sea and saying it's time to go forward. And he intimated as much himself. Do you think this

00:10:53.840 is going to significantly change the conversation around, say, restarting Energy East now that it's

00:10:58.700 not just us, it's now, you know, a major NATO ally in G7 country and a left-wing one at that

00:11:06.020 saying we need to do this and Canada could step up. Trudeau has shown he is completely

00:11:10.360 ideologically blinded. No matter how desperate the need of an apparent allied country to get this,

00:11:16.220 no matter how much the economics are so stark and clear with the need for this product to get out

00:11:20.800 there, he refused to acknowledge that there might be a need and fumbled along and said, you know,

00:11:25.040 we might have some hydrogen that you don't want in a couple of years. We have it. It's sitting

00:11:29.200 there. He's sitting on it. I mean, talk about it. They call conservatives heartless. That's

00:11:33.960 heartless. When you'd sit there and say, we're going to let you suffer as a dependency of Russia 1.00

00:11:38.180 in the midst of this crisis, potentially freezing this winter, refiring your coal plants,

00:11:43.280 and they're talking about stockpiling firewood for crying out loud, and to say there's no

00:11:48.420 business case to get that gas to you. There were, since 2015, 18 proposed LNG terminals in Canada,

00:11:56.580 five of them would have been on the East Coast. Some of these would presumably be near done by

00:12:00.440 now. And this government has hindered and held up and pushed

00:12:04.040 them all out of viability. The companies didn't propose them

00:12:07.160 because they didn't think there was a business case that they

00:12:09.440 realized and that was at lesser gas prices than now. He

00:12:12.360 basically either outright lied to say there's no business case,

00:12:16.220 or he just doesn't know and either both are believable.

00:12:18.680 Well, let's face it, Mr. Trudeau, when he when he talks

00:12:21.680 about economics, this is a man who said the budgets balance

00:12:25.880 themselves. He said he doesn't think about monetary policy. I

00:12:29.640 I have a strong feeling that his opinion on whether there is a business case for these projects

00:12:35.040 better left to the people right down the street here in Calgary in the T2P where they actually

00:12:40.460 know how to build pipelines.

00:12:41.440 Well, I think there is something you've kind of alluded to this yourself in your earlier

00:12:45.780 remarks.

00:12:47.520 There is no business case for it, but there is no basis case for it directly because

00:12:52.540 of government.

00:12:53.400 In the absence of government, there's clearly a business case for it.

00:12:56.420 The market has said, we want to do this.

00:12:59.020 people put investors put down billions of dollars to make this happen because in the absence of

00:13:04.140 government interference there was a business case for it it is only in the environment that trudeau

00:13:09.500 has created that there is no business case um now germany if you look on the map is to the east

00:13:16.780 of canada is it fair to say that justin trudeau was saying let the eastern bastards freeze in 0.99

00:13:21.820 the dark you know i was just trying to think of what the german would be for that and i hadn't

00:13:25.580 quite got as far as google translate but uh it'll take me a while yeah um maybe we'll work that in

00:13:33.180 yeah yeah you know i think that's a maybe a headline for your column trudeau says let the

00:13:37.980 german bastards freeze in the dark but you know really when you when you get right down to it 1.00

00:13:41.020 there is nothing funny about this this the what what we are saying is don't look to canada for

00:13:47.260 anything everybody knows that when it comes to the military contribution to the nato alliance

00:13:52.220 or to helping out Ukraine, this government is not prepared to do much.

00:13:59.240 No reflection on the men and women of the Canadian Armed Forces.

00:14:02.660 We visited them in Afghanistan.

00:14:04.360 We know what they're capable of.

00:14:05.820 They are brilliant in the field.

00:14:07.800 But the government is not giving them the support.

00:14:10.760 Now, if it's an entirely peaceful thing,

00:14:13.880 some governments have a problem with war.

00:14:16.240 Maybe we have one that has a problem with actually supporting its armed forces.

00:14:22.820 But this is not a war thing.

00:14:24.820 This is, buddy, my kids are going to freeze.

00:14:30.400 Send me the natural gas.

00:14:33.440 What if we can't count on Canada to do that?

00:14:38.460 Can we not count on Canada to export food?

00:14:42.860 Maybe that's something else we're going to have to talk about.

00:14:45.980 Well, farmers are the next enemy.

00:14:47.040 Farmers are the next enemy.

00:14:48.500 Like, what are we good for?

00:14:50.640 You know, this would be, you know, getting natural gas to Europe is the perfect way to strike at Putin where it would actually hurt.

00:14:59.920 Yes.

00:15:00.160 You know, the Russian war machine is fed on LNG exports to Europe.

00:15:07.360 You have the Nord Stream pipeline, things like that.

00:15:10.000 It is directly feeding the Russian war machine.

00:15:13.980 You want to hurt the Russian war machine?

00:15:15.320 much better than sending anti-tank missiles and guns and things like that to Ukraine.

00:15:21.560 Much better would be to help Europe not need to buy a single ounce of LNG from Russia.

00:15:30.000 This would be the single strongest thing we can do now to hurt the Russian war machine and to support European allies, 0.65

00:15:36.660 but we seem unable to.

00:15:38.420 Derek, we should do that without not doing the other.

00:15:42.520 They do need the rockets.

00:15:44.120 They do need the armaments.

00:15:45.760 But they do need the natural gas.

00:15:47.520 And you're right.

00:15:49.120 If you interrupt the market out there, bring the prices of Russian product down,

00:15:55.180 they'll look for other customers and no doubt we'll find them.

00:15:57.680 But they'll be getting a lot less for it.

00:16:00.160 But they'll be getting less for it.

00:16:01.400 And that will impair their ability to pursue the war in Ukraine.

00:16:05.760 No, 100%.

00:16:07.280 yeah um well let's go from the war in ukraine and eastern bastards freezing to the media meltdown

00:16:16.480 over handshake gate so uh you know we we've had a fair bit of coverage on this not because we think

00:16:22.400 it's actually a story uh we've covered it what we've actually covered is more of the mainstream

00:16:28.800 legacy media's reaction to the story. So long story short, Pierre Polyev is having some kind

00:16:38.360 of campaign event in Dartmouth, Nova Scotia. Anyone who's been to a Polyev rally or seen video

00:16:44.700 of them knows that they're pretty big and rowdy affairs, very freewheeling. When Polyev was in

00:16:49.920 Calgary, we covered it and there was, by our estimate, about 6,000 people there. Could have

00:16:53.720 been more, could have been less, but probably around 6,000. And Polyev, at the end, stands there

00:16:59.320 at the end of a queue. Anyone who wants to shake his hand gets to shake his hand. And I've been a

00:17:05.680 politician. I hated that part. Now, I don't know how he does it for like three or four thousand

00:17:09.700 people a day. He has probably shooken many, many tens of thousands of hands throughout the course

00:17:15.460 of the campaign. And so what happens in Dartmouth is some guy, McKenzie, what's his name?

00:17:25.260 Something McKenzie. Jeremy McKenzie. Jeremy McKenzie. He apparently, I've never heard of

00:17:30.680 the guy, but he leads some curious online group that has a fictitious kind of joke country.

00:17:37.660 and they post memes about the government.

00:17:42.920 He is charged with criminal mischief or something of the kind

00:17:47.320 for organizing a protest outside the Nova Scotia's chief medical officer's home,

00:17:53.240 which I don't think is a nice thing to do.

00:17:55.280 I think those people should be held accountable.

00:17:56.880 I think they've done terrible things.

00:17:58.260 I've never been a fan of taking this to somebody's home.

00:18:00.980 So he's facing that.

00:18:03.360 And then the lefties alleges a lot of much worse things

00:18:06.860 And I don't know if those things are true or not. I have a hard time believing a lot of what they say.

00:18:12.120 But let's just assume for a second here, he is a really bad guy. He's a real racist.

00:18:18.840 Well, he shook Poliev's hand. There's a picture of him shaking his hand.

00:18:23.680 And the media blew up. Press Progress, a Marxist propaganda site, went nuts about this.

00:18:31.360 Global News has gone nuts about this. Most of the mainstream media has gone absolutely nuts of this.

00:18:36.860 Um, Corey, do you think there's actually a real story here?

00:18:41.180 Not at all. It's, it's, uh, purely media created BS. And, and, uh, I don't know. I'm so sick of

00:18:48.880 the legacy media. You know what, when they overreach and they embarrass themselves like

00:18:51.980 this, cause they really have, I, I, your, your average common sense Canadian, I'm sure they even

00:18:56.260 know. I mean, if they, if they don't like Polyev or they think this man is, or he's realized it's

00:19:00.840 a guy shaking a hand. How's he supposed to know? None of us knew who this guy was he shook a hand

00:19:05.240 with. And to hold that against him is just beyond the pale. And, you know, it's poor media. I mean,

00:19:13.280 that was written as a news with Rachel Gilmore. So, you know, behind the man who shook Paulyov's

00:19:18.480 hand. I mean, that was the title for this thing. Where are you guys going? And that's when I

00:19:23.140 responded to her and showed a picture of Trudeau with a close-up picture smiling next to Mr. Lowe,

00:19:29.960 who was a, Terry Lowe, who was a, not Terry Lowe, either way, he was a notorious pedophile who got 0.58

00:19:35.440 convicted in Alberta. Oh, I remember this, yes. And said, do you want to carry on with this game?

00:19:40.920 That makes Justin Trudeau a pedophile then, right? Yeah, and of course it doesn't. I got all sorts of

00:19:44.640 beefs with Trudeau. I'm just showing the ridiculousness. If you really want to go down

00:19:48.460 this rabbit hole and play this game on where every association is going to be smeared on the other

00:19:52.940 person, let's play with your buddy Trudeau and do that. And of course, she wasn't impressed with

00:19:57.300 that. But it's it's just petty and ridiculous. And I'm getting

00:20:01.300 sick of it. I think a lot of Canadians are all right. You're

00:20:04.320 so right. A lot of Americans too. It's not like this is a

00:20:07.380 problem that's exclusive to north of the border. But you know,

00:20:13.200 having put 34 years into the legacy media, in one form or

00:20:18.360 another, it really saddens me that this has become so common.

00:20:23.820 And the reason it saddens me, now that I'm in independent media, these are our competition.

00:20:29.740 I suppose we shouldn't be too sad if they make a mess of things.

00:20:34.760 But if you care about democracy, if you care about good government, then you have to have people watching what politicians are doing.

00:20:47.160 and if they do it in a way that is unfair patently ridiculous as this is you do not have to be

00:20:56.840 a partisan for one side or the other to say well at a big rally somebody comes up and shakes your

00:21:04.320 hand and a picture is taken there is no commitment in that there is no nothing to explain and if you

00:21:10.780 pretend that there is well you're not helping you're just undermining taking the bricks out

00:21:19.020 from the platform from which you speak and which from frankly we need you to speak if the system

00:21:26.280 is going to work so you know the media uh as it is today driven by clicks and no one's immune from

00:21:35.560 that even the western standard we need people to read our content watch our videos it's the

00:21:40.640 lifeblood of media. The downside is sometimes you could become a little too slavish to it,

00:21:46.240 that you're willing to do anything to get to it. You know, Corey's been around here and he's seen

00:21:50.860 me say no to headlines or stories that we think are going to get a lot of clicks, but I just don't

00:21:55.520 think are correct newsworthy stories. And we've nixed them, even though that would be maybe a bad

00:22:00.400 business decision. We saw it as appropriate editorial decision. And I think we're just not

00:22:05.540 seeing that kind of responsibility in newsrooms now. And you've been in this position in the

00:22:15.760 legacy media. I mean, it's difficult to say no to a salacious story that's maybe just not actually

00:22:22.460 real news, though, right? Well, it is, but sometimes you have to. And even, like, what's

00:22:29.620 salacious i mean this isn't even salacious it's just it's this is just foolish anybody could look

00:22:36.520 at that and say well i don't know i don't just look like they know each other they shook hands

00:22:40.620 they were 3,500 other people behind him or whatever it was in nova scotia there like when

00:22:46.160 even people who don't follow news and see how stupid a story is then you really have done a

00:22:51.160 stupid story but then the media they're seeming to they actually seem a bit sheepish about it now

00:22:56.440 I think they're doubling down. They're doubling down because they know they're wrong rather than say, you know what? We flubbed this one. Maybe we are just being a bit too slavish to try and get clicks. You know what? Maybe we flubbed this one. They've got they have doubled down saying this is absolutely important. He deserves answers.

00:23:17.280 uh then there's the the politicians on the other side now give a little bit more grace there yes

00:23:24.380 i am saying give a little more leniency to sing and trudeau but hear me out hear me out first

00:23:30.000 this is just what they do politicians are programmed to attack the politicians on the 0.94

00:23:36.020 other side no matter what it's what they do the odd rare times say the liberals are correct on

00:23:41.660 something conservatives attack them anyway often very often there's just not a lot of charity given

00:23:47.140 but sometimes it can rise to a particular level of hypocrisy. So let's talk about the liberals

00:23:52.560 and the NDP here. We're going to come to the liberals in a bit, but let's talk about NDP

00:23:57.260 leader Jagmeet Singh. Jagmeet Singh, I don't have the exact quote in front of me, but I was reading

00:24:02.800 it today as I was writing a column on this. You know, he was saying, Poliver knows who he is.

00:24:09.240 He needs to denounce him. If he doesn't, he is winking with white supremacy. So Singh says,

00:24:15.900 If you shake someone's hand, you're responsible for what they say, unless you very particularly denounce them, even though this is like a nobody.

00:24:25.540 Funny thing, though, because in 2015, Jagmeet Singh, he went all the way down to San Francisco from Ontario, Brampton, Ontario, goes all the way to San Francisco, speaking at a Sikh Kalanistani independence rally.

00:24:41.480 where you've got guys brandishing swords in a crowd

00:24:44.160 and you've got a big, giant poster of a known terrorist

00:24:49.700 and he speaks at the rally.

00:24:53.440 We've seen before where...

00:24:55.000 Which is a lot more than just shaking a guy's hand.

00:24:58.420 Like he's part of the action.

00:24:59.620 Yeah, and he's been asked,

00:25:01.300 once he started running for the NDP leadership,

00:25:03.340 he was asked by Terry Molenski at CBC,

00:25:05.980 who actually did ask him some pretty tough questions

00:25:08.000 because of this rally and the connections that Jagmeet Singh

00:25:11.320 does have, and he asked him if he would denounce, I can't pronounce the name, but the guy who

00:25:18.280 masterminded the Air India bombing in the 1980s, the biggest single terrorist attack in Canadian

00:25:25.840 history, killed well over 200 Canadian citizens, 300 people, and Jagmeet Singh refused to denounce

00:25:32.920 a known terrorist who is the biggest mass murderer in Canadian history. I mean, I know

00:25:40.820 Hypocrisy is not in short supply in politics, especially Canadian politics.

00:25:45.920 This has got to reach a new level, Nigel.

00:25:48.340 Well, I'm sure it does.

00:25:50.480 And if you take the pulse and if you look at the people who have come up and stood beside prominent politicians,

00:26:00.800 have their picture taken, go back, put it on the wall, claim to be a special person in that individual's life,

00:26:09.940 maybe they're the ones who wanted do they really want to know subscribe to everything that that

00:26:14.740 politician has said good question to ask on some days but when you cannot find it in you to

00:26:23.380 condemn not criticize condemn somebody who was put a bomb on a plane and brought 329 people

00:26:33.700 to what is apparently a pretty nasty death,

00:26:39.940 then you have to ask them,

00:26:41.900 maybe you should be quiet about other people

00:26:44.240 and who they shake hands with at busy rallies.

00:26:48.440 Stick to your own conscience.

00:26:51.580 Corey, do you think Jake Meadson's maybe exposed himself here

00:26:56.060 a little too much, or are his supporters just going to shrug?

00:26:59.540 I don't think people took him too seriously anymore anyways.

00:27:02.120 He's got that core of NDP support.

00:27:03.600 he hasn't been gaining anybody new. But what I'm looking at with this whole denouncement trend too,

00:27:08.900 and it's part of the cancel culture mob, they've got the pitchforks out, they've got them lit,

00:27:12.520 it's social media people, it's politicians, it's media, and they're on Polyev's case saying,

00:27:17.020 denounce this guy, denounce this guy. If you don't denounce him, you support him.

00:27:19.940 That's moving the goalposts again. That's not even just you were shaking hands. Now you are

00:27:24.200 obligated to denounce. And I really hope, and so far, that Polyev maintains his ground. He says,

00:27:29.580 I don't support racism. That's all he's going to say, case closed. Because you start dancing like

00:27:33.020 a monkey for them and that's what they want. Well, I denounced that one. Well, then they're

00:27:36.200 going to go through all pictures and find it. Why didn't you denounce that? Oh, I denounce that too.

00:27:39.200 You've lost the narrative forever. You're done because they're just going to come. It's never

00:27:42.880 enough. He's got to hold his ground because there's a precedent getting set here. And if

00:27:46.820 they get away with this, he's going to be that much weaker. So before I come to the liberals,

00:27:50.300 I want to talk about this maybe in the broader context of cancel culture and the woke mob on

00:27:57.400 social media, that kind of thing. Most conservatives in Canada, in the United States,

00:28:03.860 Britain, really around the Anglosphere, when there's any allegation made from the other side

00:28:09.600 that you're a racist, you're a sexist, you're a misogynist, an Islamophobe, a homophobe, 0.98

00:28:14.260 a transphobe, whatever your isomerist or phobe is, conservatives instantly scurry under a rock

00:28:20.960 and they cradle, you know, they curl up and they scream, I'm not a racist. I'm not a racist.

00:28:27.000 Hey, look, here's my token, insert X group friend. And they kind of go out of their ways. And it's just pathetic. It's grubby and demeaning. And the left wins every time because they're playing their game. They are playing their role in the denouncement game. They're playing the role of the sinner in the church awoke, seeking forgiveness, seeking absolution. And only they can give it. And they'll never give it to you regardless.

00:28:54.660 this. Poliev, though, took a very different tack in this. He said what you said there, Corey, you

00:29:01.400 know, I don't know the guy. I denounce racism. I don't know the guy at all, whatever. But he also

00:29:07.560 said one more thing. And this sentence was left out from a lot of the mainstream media. They only

00:29:12.500 used the first sentence, a lot of them at least, used only the first sentence of his statement,

00:29:16.820 and his statement was very short. The second statement was something to the effect of,

00:29:20.520 just as I cannot be held responsible for the outbursts of racism from the Prime Minister

00:29:26.640 because I've shaken his hand. I thought that was just a cutting and defiant way to come at this.

00:29:34.820 It just puts it straight back on the left that you guys support the most well-known

00:29:39.340 serial blackface wearer on the planet today. Nigel, I'm interested in your perspective on 1.00

00:29:47.680 because you know you've worked in the prime minister's office for quite a while you're

00:29:50.560 involved in the communications as a speechwriter um this is a totally different tactic it's not

00:29:57.200 the groveling that you would see from an o'toole kind of conservative or really almost any

00:30:02.960 conservative now because conservatives are so afraid of this stuff um what do you think about

00:30:07.200 this as a tactic um and an alternative tactic to how most conservatives respond to allegations that

00:30:13.200 they're mean we'll see how it works out it needs to work out one day somebody has got to and i

00:30:19.120 think this may be the the time that is happening somebody says no um i just reject your premise

00:30:26.000 right at the start i don't know the guy i'm not a racist go ask somebody else no i'm not winking at

00:30:31.680 it and he can say that because everybody knows that pierre polliver has never done said had a

00:30:40.880 racist fault they won't give him any credit but i mean his wife was not born in canada

00:30:47.120 uh this is not a guy who thinks in those best i know he's never worn blackface

00:30:51.840 uh best we know he's no he never has and uh so he's clean so i think i think he really he's the

00:30:58.240 one person one of the people who can really take that tack if he wants to and it appears that he

00:31:02.800 does i applaud him for it so when you say it doesn't work anymore guys then it stops

00:31:09.440 I, there's been a lot of unfair comparisons of Polyev to Trump. Most of them are pretty

00:31:17.360 ridiculous. They're just radically different characters. There's some things a lot of Trump

00:31:22.460 I like and some things I don't. But one thing I did like is that, you know, when they throw these

00:31:28.000 isms and phobes at him, he was the first guy to weaponize it back at them. He just rejected the

00:31:38.260 supremacist and went straight at him and turned it into an offensive weapon. He turned a shield

00:31:43.620 into a sword. And I think we're seeing that in maybe a bit more classy way. I think Polyev is

00:31:50.260 not quite as bombastic. But Corey, do you think there's success to be had here? Or is this too

00:31:57.940 risky? Because the media seem to take what Polyev is saying as, well, maybe he is winking at white

00:32:05.480 supremacists. My thoughts, I mean, I'm not so much in trying to turn it around in my view,

00:32:09.460 rather than he should just dismiss it, it's done deal and ignore it. I know it seems like that

00:32:14.900 they'll keep coming at you. But you know what, you defang them. If you just if you keep giving

00:32:18.460 it oxygen, when you throw it back, you're keeping the issue going. And when you you know, he's made

00:32:22.820 a statement, he said, I'm not a racist. I don't know this guy. I'm done with it. But he did throw

00:32:26.240 it back. You know, I don't I'm not big on two wrongs making it right. Because we're just keeping

00:32:33.840 that vitriolic atmosphere going.

00:32:36.220 What would be the second wrong?

00:32:38.060 The second wrong was just going into, well, let's go

00:32:39.960 into Trudeau and his blackface and handshaking. 0.81

00:32:41.880 I know it's an example. But it's something he actually did.

00:32:43.880 It was a nice shot, and that's fine, but I'm

00:32:45.840 saying I don't know if going on the offense necessarily

00:32:48.060 on this is the best policy.

00:32:50.300 Just to use a smaller comparison,

00:32:51.840 I got into soup on Twitter,

00:32:53.960 shocker there, with a bunch of trans 1.00

00:32:55.940 activists, and they went

00:32:56.820 ballistic on me. Some trans activists with hundreds 0.82

00:32:59.760 of thousands of followers sent her

00:33:01.720 lunatics after me.

00:33:03.840 I didn't respond to a single one of them, though, when they were tweeting at me.

00:33:06.280 I just, block, block, block, block, block, block, block.

00:33:08.100 And they went crazier.

00:33:10.020 And then it died off.

00:33:11.060 If I tried to debate them, I'd still be at it right now.

00:33:14.620 I've got a banned list on Twitter that is, half the users on Twitter are banned on my account.

00:33:19.820 I love banning, because I don't engage with those nutters.

00:33:21.860 Yeah, there's just no time.

00:33:22.620 But in this, you had just the whole full weight of the legacy media in Canada come down on them.

00:33:29.460 You have the Liberals and the NDP coming down on them.

00:33:32.860 I don't know. I think an offensive, you know, a counter-offensive is the right move here, because if you just try and dismiss it, they're not going to let it go.

00:33:41.760 You've got to come back hard and demonstrate to people that you're not taking the guff.

00:33:46.360 For Pierre, that is exactly the right approach to take.

00:33:49.540 Because everybody who has supported Pierre this far would not appreciate, what was it, groveling, sniveling?

00:33:58.080 Self-flagellation.

00:33:59.020 Self-flagellation, you know.

00:34:00.860 they've signed up

00:34:03.660 for a reason, they like the guy

00:34:05.800 they trust him

00:34:07.260 and if he

00:34:10.120 breaks faith with that

00:34:11.580 basic trust of who you are sir

00:34:14.020 then

00:34:15.580 the enthusiasm is gone

00:34:17.520 I have

00:34:19.260 who's that British 0.95

00:34:21.460 radio host

00:34:24.080 who called out

00:34:25.100 Meghan Markle

00:34:27.720 Duchess of Sussex

00:34:30.520 I don't know.

00:34:31.080 Oh, yeah, there was a...

00:34:32.280 You have to tell us about things British.

00:34:34.320 Well, I...

00:34:34.860 Dave would have known.

00:34:35.340 We have a policy of actually a minimum one British guy on the pipeline at all times.

00:34:40.200 You can't tell from the accent, but Dave is a British subject.

00:34:44.040 He produced tea and biscuits at 3 o'clock.

00:34:46.600 I thought that was very classy.

00:34:48.260 He did?

00:34:49.400 Anyway, yeah.

00:34:50.140 I do schnitzel and beer at 5.

00:34:51.220 So, look, it cost the guy his job.

00:34:53.120 Piers Morgan is the name I'm struggling for.

00:34:55.640 And it cost him his job.

00:34:57.700 but you know

00:34:59.260 you got another one

00:35:00.840 peers is out there

00:35:01.920 and meanwhile

00:35:03.260 somebody just said

00:35:04.560 enough

00:35:05.020 I think

00:35:06.840 I think that's what

00:35:07.840 sometimes you have to do

00:35:09.220 this will not cost

00:35:10.380 this will not cost

00:35:11.660 Pierre Polyver his dog

00:35:12.820 I actually think he

00:35:15.000 I think

00:35:16.360 he may even have picked up

00:35:17.640 I think so

00:35:18.280 or at the very least

00:35:19.040 it shores up support

00:35:20.200 because I think

00:35:20.700 I think you've got

00:35:21.840 I think the

00:35:23.540 the pendulum has begun

00:35:24.600 to swing back

00:35:25.560 against the woke here 0.99

00:35:26.880 they're overplaying they've overplayed they've loaded popular culture with junk preachy

00:35:33.920 lecturing that everyone's sick of everyone is now seeing good decent people chased out of the

00:35:40.440 careers uh because they've said the wrong word sometimes they actually maybe said something

00:35:45.960 that wasn't good but we're humans we can make mistakes but they don't believe in redemption

00:35:49.600 um i i think he's tapping into something here i don't i don't think he should maybe go necessarily

00:35:56.100 as far as Trump has gone at times, but because he has to have his own style. He isn't Trump.

00:36:02.640 He's got to be Pierre. And Pierre's brand is feisty, witty, sharp, quick. And so I think he

00:36:11.400 had exactly the right response here. I think he was, I think ignoring it would be wrong. I think

00:36:18.080 it would keep the story going. It would be wrong for him in this case. Well, I'm not saying ignore

00:36:22.280 it all together, just not a racist. I don't know the guy. Now the case is closed. But every time

00:36:27.120 you open your mouth and defense, even if it's the offense, it's got oxygen again. Because if you don't

00:36:32.140 have any offense on it, just saying, I'm not a racist. And the media can ask you that question

00:36:36.880 every day then. And then you've just got a thousand clips of you. I'm not a racist. I'm not a racist.

00:36:41.020 And then after you've said it once, I've answered that next question. I've answered that next

00:36:44.740 question. We're done. We're done. It's kind of as Nigel said, it's not even a good premise. It's

00:36:49.440 done it's not I don't have time for it I think people are looking not just ignoring it they want

00:36:54.220 they want someone to fight back and I and I think there's just a huge group of people uh not just in

00:37:00.800 Canada but right right across the western world who are looking for exactly that kind of thing

00:37:05.400 but to do in a way that's not demagogic and I think that's what we saw it gets hard you know

00:37:12.140 Max Fawcett who's uh ostensibly a columnist who was a staffer for Rachel Notley sorry I thought

00:37:17.880 you said communist no well that could be okay uh he was a you know a staffer for not least you kind

00:37:21.880 of see where he's landing and he wrote of course see this was losing steam and and uh as i said

00:37:25.960 polyev wouldn't rise to them as they hoped so he writes one saying well polyev isn't a racist

00:37:31.180 perhaps but why does he draw so many racists to him so now it's his fault that they even show up

00:37:36.840 at these things and again you see the game just keeps going and what's polyev supposed to do

00:37:41.320 though acknowledge this clown and even answer to that or it's just he's going to write it anyway

00:37:48.100 And if you acknowledge it in fire, he'll write something worse.

00:37:50.700 That's why I think you go on the offense.

00:37:52.660 If you take this thing because they're just so used to bashing us

00:37:56.960 over the head with it, you take it, and you turn it into a weapon,

00:38:00.300 you stab them right back with it.

00:38:02.060 I think that's what people want to see.

00:38:05.760 Okay.

00:38:06.700 Well, that was fun.

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