The Pipeline： Voting deadline arrives with UCP leadership review
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Summary
The No More Pipelines bill might be no more. An Alberta court has struck down the federal government's No More Pipelines bill, and we're here to talk about it. Plus, Jason Kenney's leadership challenge, the UCP's review of his leadership, and much, much more.
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Good day. Today is May 11th, 2022. I'm Derek Fulbright, publisher of the Western Standard,
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I'm joined, as usual, at least on the good days,
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Well, Corey had pepperoni for lunch, and it's...
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For those of you watching at home, these two share an office.
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Western Standard Opinion and Broadcast Editor Corey Morgan.
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An Alberta court, Alberta court of Queens bench ruling that the federal government's no more pipelines bill is unconstitutional.
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As of now, the deadline for voting in the UCP's review of Jason Kenney's leadership is over.
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We're going to talk about where that stands right now, how the voting is going, and what we can expect.
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and uh speaking of conservatives fighting conservatives boy it's getting fun in the
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conservative party leadership race uh over the weekend uh debate in ottawa on saturday
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from the canada strong and free networks uh annual networking conference and then another debate
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coming up right after the show actually uh in edmonton the first official conservative
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leadership debate uh so we're gonna talk about how the last one the first leadership debate went
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and what we can expect tonight at the Edmonton Showdown.
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You were one of them at one point, weren't you?
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That's a, that's, we don't like to talk about that.
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Alberta Court of Appeals struck it down as unconstitutional this week.
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I think it was a four-to-one vote, and basically said it infringed on provincial authority.
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Jason Kenney had a jump in his step that day, and he was excited, wasn't he, Corey?
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He was a big, huge smile, big win for Alberta, historic day, all that kind of rhetoric.
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Our beloved Prime Minister Trudeau stood up in the House of Commons and said,
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don't get so excited, Alberta. He plans on taking it to the Supreme Court. And he took the time to
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remind everybody that the last time this happened, when Alberta ruled that the carbon tax was
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unconstitutional, he took it to the Supreme Court and the carbon tax was declared constitutional and
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Alberta lost. So I think Trudeau is basically saying, hey, he may have won the battle, but the
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war is still continuing. I know he said the exact phrasing was interesting. He said it was a
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question period point. He said that Alberta court, as if it doesn't really matter because it's an
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Alberta court. You know what matters? The court in Ottawa stacked by liberals. That's the only
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court that matters. And he's actually not wrong. That's the one that matters. As Corey pointed
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out in his show, a lot of liberal appointed judges in the Supreme Court from Eastern Canada.
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Well, and even the Harper appointed judges on that bench are, they tend to rule pretty liberal.
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uh it's you know people like to criticize uh the american supreme court for being politicized that
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there's conservative and liberal judges in canada we just have liberal judges so um i don't know
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which of you can answer this but it's not actually really dead though is it it's like it's hurt
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it's flesh it's a wound it's not really dead is it no no i don't think so uh and that'll
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the final ruling will come through the Supreme Court and only they can drive a stake through
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its heart completely. So yeah, it remains to be seen. I don't know if it's on life support,
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I don't know if it's that bad, but it's been injured, no doubt about that. It was a big blow
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because, don't forget other provinces, I think it was Saskatchewan and Ontario, also joined in
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with Alberta in appealing against it. So, you know, it's not just Alberta that's upset about
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the law. It's, you know, it was other promises too. So it's not quite dead, but yet, but hopefully
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soon. Corey, Trudeau has said he's going to appeal this. How important politically do you think this
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bill really is to the liberals? I'm not sure how many voters they get from it. That's a good
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question to put out on, you know, because I don't think this is a burning issue for Central Canada
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where his voters are anyway. So I don't know how much capital he might invest into fighting this.
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I mean, we see that personally, I think, with the vaccine mandates.
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He won't drop them just because he's still ticked off because people pushed back on it.
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And when it comes to this, he might dig his heels in, even if it's not really going to do him any benefit.
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I mean, a reasonable prime minister would say, because there was a dissenting opinion, we got some things.
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Maybe we can put this back in and look at amendments then or things like that.
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But he's gone straight to saying we're going to appeal it.
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I don't know how politically good that is for him, but it won't be bad either.
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I mean, you know, if he wins the appeal, it's only going to infuriate the West, but they already despise him.
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Sorry, I've always said Trudeau's safe as long as, you know, it's not affecting people economically wise.
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Now central Canada is paying over $2 a liter for gasoline.
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We did a story today on people are having to take second jobs.
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It is starting to hit home economically now in Canada.
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And people might think, okay, well, yeah, you know, geez,
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maybe a pipeline, we could save some gas or, you know,
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that tech mind thing sure sounds good now, doesn't it?
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Like beating on energy infrastructure doesn't look as good today
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Societies can only afford to do that when there's a society of plenty
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and there's enough wealth creators that you can suck that money out of.
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But as things are changing, as inflation runs out of control,
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I think a lot of these very bourgeois, nice-to-have virtues
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become a lot less convenient for regular people.
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Jason Kenney, as Dave said, he was pretty happy about this.
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He hasn't had a lot of good news in a lot of time.
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for the sake of argument, let's say he sticks around.
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UCP members decide it's a good idea to keep this guy.
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Is this going to be a significant win for Kenny politically
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Yes, because I mean, I'm sure he wishes this really came two weeks ago
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because it's not going to do much benefit for the voting as far as that goes.
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But as you said, let's assume he's still there afterwards.
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He's going to have a very shaky party, even if he's won that leadership.
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He's going to have to pull in some unity, and he's still going to have to convince them
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to not cross the floor, not join other parties.
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He's going to have to say, we've accomplished something.
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Because people did say, you know, not lay another, said, you're wasting your time.
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And it gives him some political capital to work with.
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It gives him something to talk about because he doesn't have a lot, really, of substance otherwise.
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Do you think this is going to have any kind of serious impact on the conservative leadership race and the debate we're going to get to tonight?
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I think Roman Babber put out a thing today saying, you know, end to end of equalization.
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So I think, yeah, it's right now, it's all the arguments all kind of done.
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And now we just have to wait however long it takes the Supreme Court to rule on it.
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But yeah, if a candidate, you know, starts strongly supporting that kind of thing, you know, and clearly differentiates himself from the other, it could be a good vote-getter for them.
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I don't know. I'm not sure there's really, I think this is one of the issues where all the candidates tend to be on the right side here.
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Even Charest, he's been offside in a lot of issues,
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but has tended, I think, to be fairly pro-pipeline.
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Well, segue now to the Kennedy leadership vote.
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voting ended ends right now pretty much. And the results will be released approximately this time
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next week on a special edition of the pipeline. Yeah, we'll. Yeah, actually, it will be a special
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edition of the pipeline. I guess as a programming note, we were going to have extended live
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coverage beginning at a quarter to four Wednesday next week, the results will be expected sometime
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time between four o'clock and six o'clock. And so we're going to be in here. We're going to have
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a ton of special guests. We've got, no, I guess I won't spoil the lineup yet. We're still confirming
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people, but we've got a great lineup of experts who are going to come in and weigh in on,
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you know, what could happen. And after we have the results,
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where do we go from here? I mean, it's pretty simple. If Kenny's gone, well, we know what
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happens. Get a new premier. Actually, even then, it's not that simple. There's a lot of what ifs.
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Anyway, I think we're going to have a great program for that.
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So, Dave, tell us what's happened so far with voting procedures,
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what's happened so far, and what's happening between now and a week from now.
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Party members had until, as you mentioned, just now to get their ballot in the mail.
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If it's postmarked any time after 5 o'clock today,
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Canada Post will not deliver it to Deloitte, who's sort of overseeing the vote.
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Between now and next Wednesday, party scrutineers will be going into the ballots.
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Apparently, there's like two secret envelopes or one secret envelope just to confirm that
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the vote is from a party member, their party ID, identification and all that sort of stuff
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Once the ballot has been confirmed as being legit, it will then go into the special big
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box now that takes that starts as of tomorrow morning thursday and that continues all the
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way to next wednesday they're not counting a single vote until next wednesday so they start
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counting wednesday morning uh and uh as you said hopefully uh they're gonna live stream that from
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what i understand the vote counting process the vote counting will be live streamed yeah
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uh and then yeah we'll know between uh between four and between four and six so uh the voting
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is done now it's just a matter of tabulating it and trying to make sure there's no fraudulent
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activities well actually let's go to that corey i think the the real worry is that the fraud's
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already taken place uh most experts seem to have a fair bit of confidence in the counting process
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The question is, who is allowed to vote? Bulk buying memberships. I know the CBC had something
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on that today. They're about four weeks behind the report we did on that with the exact same data.
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Corey, are people still raising concerns about the legitimacy of the vote right now?
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They're raising concerns, but I mean, it doesn't look like it's going to matter.
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You know, at this point, it's by the time Wednesday comes around. I mean,
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Elections Alberta has stayed mama, but whether they're actually going to follow through with
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investigation they know it's been brought to them i mean this is all uncharted too when did you ever
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expect elections alberta to deal with a leadership review it's not even a nomination or a leadership
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race sorry what's elections alberta have to do with anything because it is membership sales in
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a party oh yes because yeah because it's uh it's illegal yeah but i mean that will definitely not
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be resolved by next wednesday so again the questions will come on whether people will
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trust the results after that. I mean, as you said, we'll trust the counting, but there's a lot of
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voices speaking up, raising concerns, and they're going to be raising concerns no matter what the
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results are. I don't know. He's going to need a very strong showing, Premier Kenney, in my view,
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to have any chance of a unified party after this. Rick Horman, the Tory stalwart in the provinces,
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is overseeing the vote, and he told Arlinda Slobodian this week that, hey, you know, I'm
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confident in the integrity of the counting but as you brought up there's all these allegations of
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before the votes are handed credit cards buying bulk memberships and all that sort of stuff so
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you know the the problem is the the the controversy is out there it's not going away
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uh so no matter what the results are whether it's 40 or 80 people aren't going to trust it okay so
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Let's talk about the fallout, or let's kind of get our crystal ball out a little bit.
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There's, well, the more predictable scenario is, okay, Kenny loses, then, okay, he's gone,
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maybe he tries to stick around as an interim premier, but whatever, but it's more or less
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predictable what happens. He loses, he's gone. I think it's, nobody's expecting a resounding
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endorsement, the kind of endorsements of party memberships that are generally required to stay
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Like, there's no leader that can stick around with less than 75.
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I think 0.0 people expect that Kenny's going to get over 75.
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He's going to get some resounding vote that a leader would normally get if they stay.
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But let's, you know, let's say it's somewhere in the range of 51 to 65 or something.
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um would what do the scenarios look like then well he's repeatedly said that all he needs is
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50 plus one so let's give him the benefit of the doubt he gets 52 and he decides that's enough to
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stay uh ralph klein and ed stalmack both left when they had mid-70s so if he's uh klein left
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with 55 still mac left in uh around 78 or so okay yeah um certainly nowhere near uh what uh what
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kenny could get so if he decides to stay that's i think the end of the ucp in alberta there'll be
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floor crossings and mass uh they may go sit as independents they may join uh uh um drew barnes
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and todd lowen and and form their own little opposition party and get research grants and
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I don't see the caucus being overly excited with just 50%.
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Corey, if Kenny managed, let's just go with 55.
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What are the chances that he can hold it together at all?
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I mean, again, I don't even know if he could with 70.
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I mean, it's just such a tumultuous mess in there right now.
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I mean, there's a number of MLAs who burned their bridges. There's no way they're staying
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in that party the day after this vote. If they did, I mean, how can you possibly contain that
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with some of the things they've said publicly? I just don't know. I mean, he's got to have some
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sort of card up his sleeve or he's just riding the tiger right now because I don't see a good
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outcome. There's so much malcontent. We can't forget. This is just a measure of the membership.
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You know, this isn't across Alberta as a whole. This is just saying among your party members,
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this many support the leader. Across the province, we see a lot of those numbers. They're more like
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20%. This is really problematic. I mean, I don't know how he's going to consolidate it. I imagine
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he's going to really push and just say, look, it's so important to hold it together now because
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we've got an election a year from now. We've got to keep Notley out. Now you've got to rally around
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me despite our differences and we'll fight it out. See if he can pull it off, I guess, but I just
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don't see how. It's going to be hard. So as a professional courtesy, I'm not going to name
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pollster but there is a pollster in alberta who's generally considered the gold standard the best
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pollster one of the best in canada definitely the best in alberta and um this pollster showed
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the ucp with kenny way behind the ndp for like two years plus um and then they had one poll
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that showed the ucp up slightly over the ndp and the ucp illegally leaked that poll out because
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They want to get some good press showing that they've got some support.
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That pollster I've now confirmed as a new, more recent poll, and it does not show the UCP slightly ahead.
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It shows the UCP getting annihilated, like just crushed.
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I mean, if Albertans in general were voting, well, then it's no contest.
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But they're not. This is a vote of party members.
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It was already going to be the ones who were in-person.
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As Kenny originally won because he thought that played to his advantages,
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Based on the numbers I saw, he would have been lucky to get 35%.
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But now it's a rejig system designed to help Kenny.
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you don't really want to be on the record and be wrong,
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And ironically, I think your outcome might be the most unifying of the bunch
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It is the only way, I think, to keep that party united at all.
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Yeah. And the question now is we're a year away, probably a year this month away from the election. And if they're still polling around 20 percent, how do they turn that around in a year?
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The only conservative Alberta PCs turned it around all the time. You know how they did it? They got a new leader. That's the only way to turn around polls like that. Once you get that low, you're done.
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it's a new leader or a destruction. Okay. Well, before we move on to the federal conservative
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your money. Absolutely. Okay. So last Saturday, there was a debate for the conservative leadership
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race in Ottawa, hosted by the Canada Strong and Free Network that I was at.
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We also, we had, well, we had our producer, Nico, there, who's back here in Calgary in
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We also had reporters, Matthew Horwood and Rachel Emanuel there.
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I thought I was going to get a good 90-minute nap in while it was going on,
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but it started right from the beginning, Derek, when Paulyev walked on stage
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and there was no handshaking between him and Sheree.
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And then it went right downhill from there, didn't it?
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It was quite an exciting, you know, Dwayne Barath,
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the respected political scientist out of Mount Royal University says it was the wildest political
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debate he's ever seen. And that's saying something. So it was sure more interesting
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than watching that last federal leaders debate on CBC, which was sleep inducing. Yeah, highly
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entertaining. Some great shots going both ways. And should be another good show right
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after this one tonight in Edmonton uh Corey do you think um from last Thursday's debate um
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were there any clear winners and any clear losers uh yeah in some senses I mean clear winners
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I still put Sheree and Polyev up there because they dominated it they demonstrated this is a
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two-person race like the other three were fighting for oxygen in that debate you know just to be seen
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They were also the losers at the same time, though.
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And if you look like you're at each other's throats
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that doesn't reflect well in a general election.
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there may have been a little projection going on
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I don't know why it makes for a much more entertaining
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we like watching it but does it instill confidence
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I guess that's kind of what the, you know, do you want it as a morbid show of curiosity or do you want it to look like prospective leaders?
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They rip each other's, I'm not even going to say that part, but they rip off.
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You know, you remember, you know, Trump would sit there talking about little Marco and low energy.
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I remember when he called Jeb Bush low energy Jeb and the camera went to Jeb Bush.
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You could see him deflate like a balloon just went, you know, these things.
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It was the same on the Democrat side, maybe not as colorful about Trump.
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She was vicious with Biden questioning his mental capacities and things, and now she's the vice president.
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I'm not convinced that these things are always going to reflect badly in the public.
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In fact, I think it's better because you're battle testing a leader.
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He went through the last leadership race with no discernible differences with Peter McKay.
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Um, Leslie Lewis was different, but she was still too green to really land a punch of any kind. She was too nice. So like guys like Aaron O'Toole and Andrew Scheer, uh, these were like generals leading troops onto the field who had never fought the battle themselves.
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Uh, I, I don't know. I, I think when you go through a hard campaign like this, you're, there's a better chance you're gonna have a leader who comes out the other side who can take it and give it.
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Yeah, when Poliev was attacking Shreya on Huawei, that's what I can't say, you can't say Poliev.
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When Poliev was attacking him on that issue, how much, Mr. Shreya? How much? How much did you get paid? How much? How much?
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I think, you know, some people found it annoying.
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I thought it was, hey, if this is the way he's going to go after Trudeau in question period, that is going to be awesome.
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yeah so he's done you see everybody see these little clips on youtube and facebook of him like
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you know grilling someone at a committee or in uh or on question period you'll ask like okay how
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much did this cost and this liberal will not answer the question he'll just say how much
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number please if you could just provide uh just a dollar sign and a number behind it uh that'd be
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lovely thank you how much that's a great imitation for the guy the guy whose name you can't pronounce
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I think they're going to come out stronger from it,
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and it's definitely playing to – Sheree is generally considered a good debater,
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I mean, you know, when he was running in 97, he was running for – he was the last time he was PC leader on a national campaign.
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That time he got like, I don't know, 14 seats or something.
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He – you know, guys like me were in like the third grade.
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And it's – yeah, I think he's having a hard time connecting.
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some people in the sense that he came across actually
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that was a good calm voice of reason. So he kind of
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And he asked me, was you think Atchison was like the least visible candidate on the stage? And I said, no, it was Patrick Brown. Patrick Brown just skipped the debate. He apparently said there was no votes in that room for him to get.
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It was a bunch of wackos and yahoos or something.
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Very interesting message to take towards the biggest annual gathering of conservatives nationally, except if they were to gather for a Kenya leadership review, that exempting.
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And a lot of the movers and shakers of Canada's conservative movement, tons of conservative caucus members were there.
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I mean, he's also, I've seen mainstream media members complaining.
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I mean, tonight we're going to see him for the first time at a leadership event of any kind.
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So, I mean, with this invisible campaign so far, I would hope he's going to explode onto the stage
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because now it's going to be six people fighting for that spot.
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watch like uh so the 30th of may uh we'll live stream this as well the independent press gallery
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um you know that includes you know the western standard some of the other uh media in canada
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don't take government funding uh i'm going to be there helping to uh moderate that debate
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and patrick brown's not going there either i mean and this is put on by generally more
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conservative leaning media and he's still not going this is i don't understand what he's doing
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This is a membership across the country thing. Not everybody's going to go to events in person. You need them to see you on broadcasts.
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He's not just doing, he's barely doing events in person. He is, the best I can tell, and maybe I'm wrong,
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maybe from their campaign will correct me that he had one or two meetings that were not like this,
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but the best I can tell, he's doing 100% purely ethnic political outreach. Nothing but.
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He swung through Calgary a couple of weeks ago, and he visited some religious minority temples or mosques or gudwaras or something like that, and then he left town. He didn't even say like, hey, local supporters or interested conservatives, meet me for like a pub night for two hours somewhere. Nothing. I have seen zero attempt from him to reach out to a single existing conservative member. He's just doing purely the ethnic politics.
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I don't get it because he doesn't have national profile. It's not like he's well known outside of political, you know, wonks outside of Ontario. And I mean, I would have thought he has some assets. He's young, you know, good looking guy, well spoken, things like that. Like he could have done outreach, maybe gain support across the West in areas where people don't know him, but you got to get out to them.
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Nobody knows who the hell Roman Babber was either.
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Corey and I both thought he did well in the debate.
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And now he's touring and meeting people and being public,
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Compare that to Patrick Brown, who is very, very strange.
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So Babber is, you know, I'm not sure he's considered to be a particularly strong contender to win,
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And, you know, it's the Western Centre, so a lot of our viewers, listeners, don't know who he is.
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He's a member of the Ontario Provincial Parliament, as it calls itself, because it's Ontario, dammit.
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And although I think we should call it as a parliament, or we should go Quebec.
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I think we should have the Alberta National Assembly.
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And he was kicked out of the Ontario PC Party Caucus by Doug Ford for opposing lockdowns and vaccine mandates,
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mandatory masking, that kind of stuff. So he's become kind of a folk hero in the anti-lockdown
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movement in Ontario, much less known out West here. But he's making a play for it. He released
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a statement today, which is far and away the most aggressive Western-friendly policy we've
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seen on equalization from any candidate at the federal level, period. He outflanks Maxime Bernier
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on equalization now. He said he will end equalization, just completely kill it. Even
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Bernier doesn't go that far. So it's quite extraordinary. One thing I heard from several
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people after the debate in Ottawa last Thursday, as I heard a few people tell me, he's not going
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to win. And I think Polliver should probably win in the end. But I'm going to give Baber my first
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ballot, because I think he's earned it. He's, you know, he is, he put his political ass on the line
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in Ontario, gotten kicked out of the Ontario PC party by lockdown Ford. You know, he's stuck his
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neck out. He's putting out the right policies. So, you know, I heard from several people, I don't
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know how widespread this will be, but people say, I'm going to mark first ballot for Babber,
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probably going to get knocked off, you know, in the earlier rounds of voting, and then your
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second ballot go to Polliver. Do you think that's his strategy here? Is it to win? Or is it just to
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have an impact, put himself on a national stage, maybe set himself up for a seat in the federal
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parliament since he's been kicked out? You know, can't win his independence in Canada, really?
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Yeah, that's exactly what he's doing. And surely in his heart of hearts, he knows he's not going
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to win but he can get himself a national profile out of this he can uh you know be the hero to the
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right and uh yeah set himself up for the next uh campaign where he runs as a federal conservative
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gets a seat in parliament and becomes a cabinet minister absolutely and he's come across well
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like when he first surfaced i only heard a little bit about him before when i had him on the show
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actually it was prior to the debate no this was good and calm and reason because you kind of
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wonder, I mean, we get some kind of flaky members of the legislatures across the country now and
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then, and he might be a bit out there and on the fringe, but no, he's clearly showing there's more
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to him than just a rebellious MPP in Ontario. And, you know, to make that leap from there into
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a federal seat, he's showing the world that he is a rational, good politician. And I think he's
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positioning his future and he's a young guy. He could be going places. All right. We're going to
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