Western Standard - August 15, 2026


THE PIPELINE： What has Carney actually delivered？


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00:00:00.000 Good evening, my name is Corey Morgan, I'm a senior columnist with the Western Standard
00:00:28.140 you're watching the pipeline yes we usually have derek phildebrand our publisher uh hosting this
00:00:34.060 thing but he's indisposed today god knows what he's up to this time not my concern or problem
00:00:38.300 but it does leave me in the hosting chair we got a bit of a different lineup all around today i'll
00:00:43.100 kind of start on the far end we have reporter jackson lloye chiming in wearing his dad's jacket
00:00:50.620 looking very daffer say a little uh was it red compared to the blue yes look at god
00:00:55.020 it's a freaking color and dave winnick fresh off from a news check-in on my show a little while
00:01:01.820 back indeed it was pretty much an hour right on like i said and as it was yes and a fixture
00:01:09.340 uh opinion editor emeritus nigel hannaford good to be here corey i've had my full outfit
00:01:16.700 checked out by my wife before i had the load on so you know she's available on a consultancy basis
00:01:23.020 All right. Well, you won't get that note later. Like, those occasional times have appeared
00:01:29.580 without a tie. We had to email a little later.
00:01:31.740 Gee, that was a good job. What have we got for the viewers?
00:01:35.980 What have we got? We've got lots of things. We're starting on the federal front. We're
00:01:41.100 talking about our fine prime minister a year and a half into his mandate. What's he managed
00:01:46.060 to do for an agile? Well, you know, that's the thing. Not too much, really. What got me started
00:01:52.220 on this train of thought was not so much Mr. Carney I've got kind of used to the idea that
00:01:57.100 he makes announcements and nothing happens. But Pierre Polyev is sinking in the polls,
00:02:04.220 and I cannot wrap my head around how he can be doing so badly in the polls when he's really not
00:02:14.220 done anything wrong while mr carney has not really done anything right and is yet is leading
00:02:23.140 him by according to some polls which i don't actually believe but 19 19 percentage points
00:02:28.080 so i thought maybe we need to take a look and see if mr carney has actually done a few things
00:02:36.060 that merit the popularity he's now enjoying but he hasn't must so let's just go over this he was
00:02:42.880 elected in April of last year, so he's been in office for about 15 months. Now, you can't turn
00:02:49.680 an oil tanker around on the spot, and you can't take a Canadian economy that's been decimated by
00:02:56.600 nearly 10 years of his predecessor and expect everything to turn around in a few weeks or even
00:03:03.380 a few months. But after 15 months, you should see some signs of where the growth, where the new
00:03:11.020 action is going to come from but i you know i'm not seeing it he established the major projects
00:03:18.540 office to make things move fast there are presently 19 projects in its mall but only one has been
00:03:26.700 announced and that was one that was well advanced before mr carney became prime minister never mind
00:03:31.980 they set up the office so there's an awful lot of it's out there it's in the future it's coming but
00:03:38.140 it isn't here yet. So that's with the major industrial development. On defense, he said,
00:03:43.740 right, we're going to meet the 2% NATO standard, 2% of GDP spent on defense. Well, what did he do?
00:03:51.740 He gave everybody a pay raise, incorporated the Coast Guard into the military, suddenly we're at
00:03:55.900 2%. That's not really the object of the exercise. And then on trade, he's gone around the world
00:04:04.620 signing memorandums of understanding the only trade that we've really seen is an agreement
00:04:11.580 with china to import vehicles which does nothing for ontario's auto industry we don't have a
00:04:18.140 comparable thing exporting to china so you know when do we call time on this experiment and say
00:04:25.100 all right you've had a chance now you know now we need to see some performance and if not we're
00:04:31.980 going to condemn you is that uh is 15 months enough is it 18 months is it two years what
00:04:38.140 how many budget cycles does a man have to go through as prime minister before you
00:04:41.820 actually rate his performance well it there's a regional breakdown when we see the polling
00:04:46.220 too i mean albertans and still even currently is polling surprisingly strongly in alberta
00:04:51.180 apparently in edmonton of course and some other areas but central canada most particularly has
00:04:56.460 a love affair with the liberal party we do have somebody freshly over from there i mean you know
00:05:00.700 we've brushed most of the smell off. But I mean, you can offer some perspective though,
00:05:05.820 you know, perhaps why is the frustration not building up out there as badly as it is out here?
00:05:11.340 Well, I think because if this thing was currently presenting, it's politics is a
00:05:14.300 game of optics. And in Eastern Canada, and I'd say like Central, especially in Quebec and Ontario,
00:05:19.020 Maritimes, of course, always quite lean liberal, but they see the news headlines, they see Kearney
00:05:25.740 he signs mou with x country currently puts this project in the major projects projects office
00:05:31.500 so they see the headlines and they must assume well something's going to happen because of it
00:05:35.280 so the popular i think is not so much because there's we're seeing fruits of the labor more
00:05:39.740 because there's talk of things when like you said there's not been a lot of substance but a lot of
00:05:44.960 uh good things potentially happening in the future so i think i think like the eastern perspective
00:05:50.840 is just well he's he's uh talks nice he dresses good he makes us look good in the world stage so
00:05:56.140 he must be good so i think that's kind of the perspective that why it's winning over so many
00:05:58.980 people across like i mean across the country you have to admit it like you look at the polling
00:06:03.060 numbers even albert i think he's what plus 14 favorability like i think it was something like
00:06:07.540 that yeah no like you said it is just optics because i was talking to stockwell day about
00:06:11.540 this recently and what do people see the average person they don't see what we see because we're
00:06:14.720 always constantly like looking at news cycles they just see announcements and they think great
00:06:17.820 that's getting built well they don't specify when like the pipeline it's not going to be built or
00:06:21.560 an operational the one to the west coast if it gets approved until i think 2035 so people just
00:06:26.120 see the announcement and that's it that's all they know so they just assume yeah that's happening
00:06:30.060 they don't really see boot they don't really think about boots on the ground etc so yeah i think that
00:06:34.600 is probably the main reason behind his numbers really because they just it looks like he does
00:06:38.440 a lot while he's doing nothing he's basically just well all hat no cattle really because you
00:06:42.260 can go around like you said signing memorandums or whatnot in china i think he was in india
00:06:46.140 talking about maybe an energy deal but most of these if they're going to come about aren't going
00:06:49.740 to happen like actually start happening for several years so it's like you know i mean when's the next
00:06:54.380 election coming up really when they could possibly call it so you know this ruling is not going to go
00:06:58.520 down anytime soon if this just keeps up really he does like pulling out the checkbook though
00:07:02.460 one of the areas that it seems he has kind of moved towards something though we know how glacial it is
00:07:06.800 you mentioned the nato targets and such which yeah that was the very initial thing was just
00:07:10.780 more some number jiggling to make it look like the two percent but there have been some some
00:07:14.820 pretty serious procurement commitments made with a heck of a lot of our dollars that would
00:07:22.100 actually bring hardware into the military. Again, we've seen the announcement in the spending part,
00:07:26.420 so presumably, though, that will happen. Well, the only thing is we started
00:07:31.780 the process of buying the F-35 fighter, for example, before Mr. Trudeau became prime minister
00:07:38.340 back in 2015. Then they put a hold on it and delayed, and then they thought they might need
00:07:44.020 to investigate a different type of aircraft because they weren't happy with the americans
00:07:50.820 we have a problem in canada buying military equipment you may remember the helicopter
00:07:56.580 fiasco of the 1990s the sea kings we try to get rid of them you know and nobody can make their
00:08:01.620 mind up what they wanted or provide the funding for it and my fear is that uh you know by the
00:08:07.780 time we actually see a lot of this equipment the next war will have come and gone and we'll have
00:08:12.660 lost you know that's a it's a very slow process yeah i remember a recent story that was fascinating
00:08:19.460 a year or two ago whereas our service members were still literally carrying sidearms from world war
00:08:24.820 ii yeah that's and they've been talking about changing them for decades and decades you could
00:08:30.340 just go into cabela's and buy better at least back then uh you know firearms uh but the government
00:08:35.940 just paralyzes itself when it comes to to military procurement with these things i mean you know
00:08:41.140 we're going to be getting biplanes eventually to catch up with whatever we ordered for World War
00:08:44.980 One. But I mean, that's one of the areas though that is slow and it takes more reform.
00:08:50.660 I mean, among other things, why isn't he being called up by other provincial leaders? It's
00:08:53.860 another thing in the East, for example, Premier Ford and Mr. Carney have been quite tight.
00:09:00.500 But Ford is, I've got another one that's inexplicable with his appeal, though he's
00:09:05.620 been having troubles. What's going on with the relationship there? I mean, why isn't the Premier
00:09:09.700 saying, hey, Kearney, why don't you get something done?
00:09:12.340 With Ford saying to Kearney?
00:09:14.060 Yeah.
00:09:14.480 I mean, I think your average citizen's not doing anything,
00:09:17.920 but either is your average premier.
00:09:19.400 I think Kearney would say Ford's causing just as much problems
00:09:21.280 as Trump is at the minute when it comes to the U.S. trade dispute.
00:09:24.180 He isn't really helping anyone out at the minute
00:09:25.640 when it comes to trying to put a good face on Canada right now.
00:09:29.160 But I think that, again, from a provincial point of view,
00:09:33.820 if you're on terror right now with the whole U.S. thing,
00:09:35.700 and they've made it clear, the liquor blockages
00:09:38.680 is one of their main sticking points.
00:09:41.880 And Ford seems hell-bent on sticking to that.
00:09:44.380 So if anything, I'd say not to stick up for Kearney,
00:09:47.080 but if anything, Ford's the one causing him more problems
00:09:49.160 than Kearney is at the minute for Ford.
00:09:51.660 Well, then to bring it a little closer to home,
00:09:54.200 how long is Premier Smith going to be hand-in-hand with Kearney?
00:09:57.900 I mean, she's been there for all of the announcements too,
00:10:01.860 and she's not questioning the timeline.
00:10:03.520 She's not putting pressure on.
00:10:04.820 She's not lighting a fire under him.
00:10:06.440 I understand you want to work cooperatively,
00:10:08.260 and try and get things done. But at some point, she's got to be speaking up for Alberta and saying,
00:10:12.180 look, Prime Minister, you know, just putting these to the office isn't getting us anywhere.
00:10:17.620 When are you going to do something? And she's been reticent to call him out as well.
00:10:21.700 Yeah, she has. I have no inside knowledge. My speculation is that…
00:10:28.820 That's all we're about here.
00:10:29.700 Yeah. So, you know, the rumor and the gossip, you're right, she does have to appear cooperative
00:10:36.420 because that if if carney is as popular in alberta as some of these polls suggest there's not much
00:10:44.100 mileage in it for her to stick a put a stick in his ear every time she sees him probably got to
00:10:51.780 get along with him a little bit and with the pipeline the problem with the pipeline
00:10:58.500 apart from the fact that it sounds like it's going to be built with government money via trans mountain
00:11:02.660 is that part of the deal is pumping carbon dioxide underground.
00:11:08.140 That is the bit that puzzles me.
00:11:10.320 I don't know why she's going along with that
00:11:12.140 because anybody will tell you that's like digging a hole
00:11:16.440 to get dirt to fill another hole.
00:11:18.460 Well, it gets back to politics again.
00:11:20.520 There are some very strong supporters of that party,
00:11:22.780 very heavily invested into that paddleways project
00:11:25.200 that would become very upset if they backed down,
00:11:28.420 even if it was proven to be a waste of time.
00:11:30.600 uh well i just wonder if she's gonna say anything and she's waiting until october 1st because
00:11:35.820 october 1st is the date the deadline i think for the major projects office to say if the pipeline
00:11:41.240 is going to be a project of national interest and approve it so i'm just waiting to see what
00:11:44.660 happens if she's going to start talking on that no no they're actually they're talking about it
00:11:48.340 which yeah the key there's another announcement right there now so october 1st is a deadline i'm
00:11:53.720 wondering if she's waiting just to see what happens till then and then after that happens
00:11:57.300 and say something goes wrong
00:11:58.340 and it doesn't happen
00:11:58.940 if she's going to unleash then.
00:12:00.600 Well, she'd have to unleash
00:12:01.500 at some point
00:12:02.060 because if this thing falls apart,
00:12:03.720 she keeps her wagon
00:12:04.580 so tightly hitched to Carney,
00:12:06.460 she's going to go down with him.
00:12:08.000 Yeah.
00:12:08.500 It's a dangerous gamble
00:12:09.940 at this point.
00:12:12.100 Yeah. 0.96
00:12:12.480 The indigenous factor
00:12:13.640 is another one Carney won't touch.
00:12:14.880 Well, no politician wants to touch it.
00:12:16.500 They're terrified of it.
00:12:17.500 But unless, I mean,
00:12:19.780 they can announce
00:12:20.280 all the stuff they want.
00:12:21.140 That office can say
00:12:21.920 whatever they want.
00:12:22.600 Unless Carney comes right out
00:12:23.980 and says,
00:12:24.340 you guys don't have a veto,
00:12:26.360 it's not getting done.
00:12:27.300 I agree.
00:12:28.300 You know, he could say it diplomatically, but he's got to say it.
00:12:30.620 Well, and I think that may bear on the question you asked just now, is when is she likely
00:12:35.020 to say something?
00:12:36.020 That would be the point.
00:12:37.020 I mean, if she takes a combative role now and the pipeline doesn't happen, well, then
00:12:44.600 there will certainly be critics who will say, well, you know, if you don't just play along
00:12:47.840 a little better, we'll all be digging a hole in the ground now.
00:12:51.800 Well, if it turns out that actually the thing is not going anywhere, that there is no pipeline,
00:12:59.680 Carney has no further hold on her.
00:13:01.920 She can say what she likes, and she would have every reason to.
00:13:05.000 I think as well is right now, she's had no greater leverage than what she has right now.
00:13:09.000 With the referendum coming up in the end of October, like you said, with the major products office deadline,
00:13:14.140 I think at this point, again, talking about playing politics,
00:13:16.360 I think she's just trying to maximize what she's going to get out of Carney in this short period of time
00:13:19.780 where she has that maximum leverage.
00:13:21.060 So I'm not trying to, you know, toot the horn of the Premier here, but I don't blame her necessarily for trying to play so close-knit with him, you know?
00:13:29.440 Specifically the political motivations.
00:13:31.340 Yeah, yeah.
00:13:32.120 It's just the realities, there's the ideals, and then there's the politics, and all of them have to come into play with these things.
00:13:38.440 But, I mean, it just seems like the Emperor has no clothes nobody wants to call out.
00:13:43.180 I mean, he has really done nothing.
00:13:45.420 It's just the list, the accomplishments.
00:13:47.260 Well, so the question comes back, how long do we give him?
00:13:51.060 before or how long in fact does the mainstream media and the other people who's have an opinion
00:14:00.260 such as the opposition what is two budget cycles enough to say you've had your chance you produced
00:14:08.020 nothing all right we're coming for you and i would say that you know next year this time next year
00:14:14.500 if there's nothing happening he's gonna he's gonna be in real trouble we'll wait and see
00:14:19.460 an issue actually he has kind of done a little bit on a segue in maybe you know it's the mass
00:14:23.860 migration issue though it's a big one uh he did actually scale back the amount of uh refugee
00:14:29.940 claimants are being accepted and some of the temporary foreign workers but it's still a
00:14:34.180 concern it's still a pressure and they're still i think part of the problem is the one that the
00:14:39.460 people who are already here who should be moved out yeah the reason is expired and they won't
00:14:44.100 yeah yeah uh but the conservatives are terrified of that it's similar to the indigenous issue i
00:14:48.420 I think politicians will be touching it, but they're going to have to step in, won't they? 0.56
00:14:51.520 I would assume so, yeah.
00:14:52.800 But, I mean, the question, again, is when? 0.63
00:14:54.320 Because, I mean, if you want to talk about mass migration and whatnot is, I mean, obviously, Pauly, I've talked about just, like, opening the floodgates and trying to curb that. 0.97
00:15:01.480 But at the end of the day, this just goes back to the old thing. 0.88
00:15:05.340 I don't think the conservatives want to touch it because of pandering to votes, ethnic vote. 0.58
00:15:10.460 I mean, that's every party now doesn't really want to touch this because they're pandering to votes.
00:15:14.820 That's what it really comes down to.
00:15:16.100 They don't want to be called racist or something.
00:15:17.680 that's really what it comes down to at the end of the day
00:15:19.660 I think and I don't know when it's going to
00:15:21.960 end really because there seems to be no end 0.99
00:15:23.680 in sight really even when they talk about curbing immigration like you 1.00
00:15:25.740 said all the ones that are here
00:15:27.060 if there are visas up or whatnot
00:15:29.480 are they going to be booted out?
00:15:31.740 No. So what do you do?
00:15:33.720 I was speaking on my show. Same with criminals like all like these
00:15:35.640 judges in that are trying to always like make sure these criminals
00:15:37.640 don't get deported and give them lesser sentences
00:15:39.420 it's absurd. Yeah I was
00:15:41.860 speaking on my show
00:15:43.620 about one of those incidents today earlier
00:15:45.580 with this gentleman
00:15:46.640 and I want to call him that.
00:15:48.480 I'm just trying to find the name.
00:15:50.380 Medhani Johans.
00:15:51.520 He's a not-Canadian refugee.
00:15:54.760 He's had two convictions for sexual assaults on strangers. 1.00
00:15:58.440 So he's a rapist. 0.99
00:16:01.120 Repeated breaches of court orders, 0.97
00:16:03.060 described by police as a high-risk.
00:16:06.020 Won't deport him. 1.00
00:16:07.040 He's not a citizen. 1.00
00:16:07.840 Why on?
00:16:08.540 If we can't even get rid of him,
00:16:11.080 but why isn't?
00:16:13.180 Polyev standing on the rooftop screaming about this one,
00:16:15.640 because actually he's not. 0.86
00:16:16.460 That's another one of these symptoms of this mass immigration, he's scared to touch.
00:16:20.220 Okay, so there's a couple of things going on here. I share your dismay that we can't deport 1.00
00:16:26.300 a non-citizen double rapist. I mean, the same thing happens in Great Britain. Again, 1.00
00:16:33.180 there is a fear of actually coming down hard on people who commit crimes who aren't citizens,
00:16:39.900 but who aren't white. I'd almost like to see somebody try just to see what happens,
00:16:47.980 frankly, because I don't think the reaction would be near. I don't think there is an ethnic community
00:16:55.500 that is going to be so offended at the deportation of one of its members after that member has brought
00:17:02.140 shame on the community you know i mean i think somebody's needs to gross grow a pair as they say
00:17:10.460 i'm sure i heard you say that once um the but the other thing is that we always assume that um
00:17:18.140 ethnic immigrants are as opposed to white immigrants are sort of natural liberal voters
00:17:26.140 Well, some are, but not all are. 0.85
00:17:30.680 Some immigrants come here from conservatively-minded countries
00:17:34.280 and are appalled at what they find here in Canada in terms of our looseness. 0.83
00:17:40.880 And some actually turn around and go back home again.
00:17:43.260 So my plea to the conservatives would be recognize that not everybody
00:17:50.440 who comes from another country
00:17:54.640 is a natural liberal
00:17:56.360 and they might actually appreciate your support
00:17:58.860 in sticking up for the values that they hold
00:18:01.280 which are not shared by this liberal government.
00:18:04.180 I think that you've hit the nail on the head there.
00:18:05.500 That's exactly it.
00:18:06.280 If you speak to a lot of, like,
00:18:08.800 I would say newer immigrants who came here pre-2015,
00:18:12.680 they'll speak to the fact that
00:18:13.920 the immigration levels that are happening now,
00:18:16.080 they are the most outwardly spoken against that kind of thing. 0.96
00:18:19.360 and like he's talking about they wouldn't be against deporting somebody who is a double rapist 0.72
00:18:23.840 like who most of these people coming from like non-white immigrant countries are quite socially 0.67
00:18:28.880 conservative and would see that as a good thing as you know fair justice in action so again i think
00:18:34.560 like exactly what you said like it's it's a they're pandering to a base that they're pairing
00:18:39.040 to a group of voters that doesn't really exist which is which is liberal generation immigration
00:18:44.000 There are presumptions that aren't fair.
00:18:47.180 I mean, I can't remember who it was.
00:18:48.860 There was an Indian gentleman.
00:18:49.860 I don't know if it was a comedian or a politician or a media member. 0.99
00:18:51.920 I came all the way here to get away from India, and then the rest of India followed me. 1.00
00:18:57.500 But, I mean, you know, it's a problem with Indians, just the amount, the volume, the environment, the economics. 1.00
00:19:04.460 I mean, you know, immigrants of any color, they're not another species. 1.00
00:19:08.140 They have the same concerns.
00:19:09.240 They're worried about dying on a waiting list to get into a hospital.
00:19:12.000 they want their kids to be able to afford to get a home they're tired of hearing their sons coming
00:19:16.480 home saying dad i'm a woman this week because my teacher told me so these are communities that
00:19:21.360 conservatives can resonate in to that point let me tell you a little story here this was about a year
00:19:26.000 ago true story um a friend of mine has this friend uh petroleum engineer hails from pakistan
00:19:35.200 moved here with his wife had children and one day his nine-year-old daughter comes home and
00:19:44.160 starts talking to mom and tells mom that the teacher said it would be okay if she were to
00:19:53.320 kiss a girl nine years old first of all i don't know why they're talking about that in class at
00:19:58.880 that age, but they were getting the blessing of the teaching establishment that those kinds
00:20:08.760 of relationships would be acceptable. 0.95
00:20:11.900 That man heard that and set the wheels in motion and has now returned to Pakistan because 1.00
00:20:17.640 that's not the culture that he wants his children to be brought up in. 1.00
00:20:21.500 We don't necessarily want the whole culture of...
00:20:25.220 It's a difficult discussion.
00:20:25.740 There's some aspects of the back of any culture we don't want.
00:20:28.740 You know, this was an educated, hardworking, productive member of our industry.
00:20:39.640 You know?
00:20:40.400 And they find that the laxness and the looseness of the morals in Canada are not acceptable to them.
00:20:46.120 So in his case, he went back.
00:20:48.000 now why can a conservative not capitalize on that sentiment rather than saying we're going to send
00:20:55.580 people back and it's going to get us into trouble especially if it's the right people that get sent
00:20:59.880 back well key point well ironically every time like uh immigration voting uh kind of uh drives
00:21:08.780 or whatever i'd find white immigrants from europe are honestly more liberally minded than a lot of
00:21:13.460 the ethnic ones from middle east or you know uh in some content so i can talk going back to what
00:21:21.360 we were saying like why they still why the conservative party still feels the need to
00:21:25.820 play so soft-handedly with with uh minority groups is is bizarre to me like i don't understand what
00:21:33.600 what the the end goal is so isn't that part of them i mean the pollio hasn't been able to find
00:21:38.840 a chip in the armor of the liberals somehow no matter what he's tried but part of it is he's
00:21:44.440 been scared to take solid stances on some of these things too i mean would this be one of you you'd
00:21:49.560 have to carefully consider how you approach it it would have to be strategic but you know we think 0.99
00:21:54.680 the environment's there among the immigrant community and non-immigrant if if he could
00:21:58.760 phrase it right he doesn't have much less to lose anymore well certainly as we as we entered the 1.00
00:22:06.120 discussion he said most immigrant communities would be quite happy if you sent back the bad 0.97
00:22:11.480 people from among their communities start with the low-hanging fruit yes exactly and we can't do that
00:22:18.280 i mean that there's one of the the areas that conservatives are all getting difficulty with too
00:22:23.960 temporary foreign workers and i remember that was coming up and i had some debates people got upset
00:22:28.280 with me when i was doing my pub and restaurant because a lot of that's where it kind of began a
00:22:32.600 a lot though they were using a lot of temporary foreign workers in the service industry and i have
00:22:38.680 literally put ads up when i owned that pub looking for cooks paying above the average
00:22:44.600 calgary wage because i'm just outside of the city i didn't even get applicants i mean it's not a
00:22:49.240 matter not paying enough for a good enough environment they aren't even applying i could
00:22:53.080 not get people into those jobs that is corey i've always one of the things people always say like
00:22:57.320 these guys that have piles of temporary foreign workers that no canadian kids want these jobs why
00:23:01.880 is that but then why do they put out like hundreds of resumes and like we never get a call back like
00:23:05.800 what is going on this is the whole i don't know who's not calling them back because i sure as
00:23:09.800 heck would if they showed up with a resume i was practically putting them in a headlock and dragging
00:23:14.200 them into the kitchen and signing them up for payroll they weren't applying maybe that wasn't
00:23:19.320 well yeah i guess they heard about that that shackle they saw in the bag but i mean i i think
00:23:27.080 there's an expectation that's been built you know this is going farther back into the education
00:23:31.880 system of people thinking they're going to graduate and jump straight to the uh you know
00:23:35.880 full-time job with a good salary and benefits and and so on and sometimes you might need a little
00:23:40.760 time in the working world first and that to be honest i think there's a lot of a generation think
00:23:44.200 they're above it well you know young zolton made a really good point in his uh piece that we
00:23:48.520 published this morning why are we bringing in firefighters from mexico are there not people
00:23:56.760 in british columbia or for that matter somewhere else in canada if you can fly them in from mexico
00:24:01.320 you can fly them in from montreal you know who want to go and and take that job do god's work
00:24:09.000 and get paid handsomely for it again speaking as a guy who worked in the bush in bc you know
00:24:13.960 as a surveyor and for 20 years 30 years ago the predominant firefighting forces in british
00:24:19.880 columbia came from the reserves yeah getting back to people who don't want to apply for the jobs
00:24:24.360 anymore and that's because of a larger social and cultural and economic just all sorts of things
00:24:29.080 we can get into the whole morass of the challenges on reserves right now but they are not good labor
00:24:33.800 pools to dip into in british columbia at this time so there isn't a domestic force but they've also
00:24:39.160 brought in a whole bunch of contracts to make sure nobody else can get them uh off of the reserves
00:24:44.360 these agreements to make sure they had that industry cornered again sensitive area that no
00:24:49.480 politician wants to touch with a 10-foot pole, but the people that they had sort of contracted
00:24:55.080 and assumed would fill that role because they live in those areas and they need the work and
00:24:58.760 they can be paid very, very well for it, aren't able to provide the actual labor yet at the same
00:25:03.320 time the protections are in. So they have the contract. I mean,
00:25:11.080 they can't even issue the jobs and take a cut. I mean, I'm certain a lot of the ones coming
00:25:17.240 off the reserve and fighting the fires and so on, but it's, it's a mess. They did things when they
00:25:21.400 brought in native contractors, when I was surveying up in Tumblr Ridge area and Charlie Lake and where
00:25:26.920 all these contractors, I would have 12 different contractors from one reserve. And it was just,
00:25:33.320 it's hard to explain how brutal that was. And that's part of why we don't work up there anymore.
00:25:37.800 We just couldn't, it was, but you weren't allowed to hire anybody off the bloody reserves. So the
00:25:43.720 the contractor falls apart, then him and his brother split into two new contractors. It's just
00:25:48.040 a degree of that has gone into the firefighting. And that's where it's a difficult area because
00:25:52.840 you have to have a standing force. I mean, for three quarters of the year, you don't need them.
00:25:58.080 And how do you maintain training and availability and keep them employed and ready to be able to,
00:26:03.660 and that's difficult for anybody, native or non-native alike. It's a tough job. What do you
00:26:06.960 do? How do you pay somebody to sit around for eight months a year, but then be available to say,
00:26:11.540 hey we're going to need you 80 hours a week for the next month because we've got fires hitting
00:26:15.140 it's difficult um though it's a good piece you put out it's ask those questions then why isn't
00:26:20.420 that available yeah and then speaking like the young people are you talking about wanting work
00:26:25.040 and it is true like there is a lot or like young people complain there's no work and then expecting
00:26:28.860 to get a you know a full-time paying job with benefits because i think it speaks to the fact
00:26:33.940 that i and this might be a controversy i think canada has a very over-educated population we
00:26:38.280 have a lot of people who are going into and speaking someone who's a recent grad like I just
00:26:41.760 graduated the year previous we have lots of people who are going into programs where there is no
00:26:46.940 non-guaranteed job no real form of employment after you get that degree and there's this pressure
00:26:53.200 societally to get a university because that scene is like oh the you're not smart unless you get a
00:26:57.800 university degree I know loads of guys who didn't who went straight into high school into the trades
00:27:01.440 making way more money than I'm making right now lots of people with better degrees than I have
00:27:05.220 making more money than them and I think it's because in Canada we have this idea that to be
00:27:09.660 somebody you need to have a university degree you need to go to post-secondary institution and not
00:27:12.880 to say that you know trade school is good and all but like loads of people getting arts degrees and
00:27:17.400 I ironically as a journalist speaking about this is I'm one of them I'm part of the problem but
00:27:21.960 I think there are people you said the expectation there's the expectation is also again the societal
00:27:27.740 thought that because I have this I should have a better job than this person who doesn't have it
00:27:32.680 And I think that is definitely an issue and I'd say not a necessarily a good thing that we have such an educated population.
00:27:38.680 So if we could change some of those issues, which is a big ask, I mean, that's where we could reduce all that temporary foreign worker load that's been coming in because the pool potentially is there.
00:27:47.680 But I mean, it's a difficult. 0.89
00:27:51.240 Well, you know, he's actually right on.
00:27:53.880 I had Gwyn Morgan sitting in that chair a couple of weeks ago,
00:27:59.660 and we were talking about building AI data centers in central Alberta.
00:28:05.520 And he said, look, AI is taking a tremendous amount of work out of the,
00:28:09.500 you know, they used to be available.
00:28:11.680 It's not there anymore.
00:28:13.080 So my advice to young people is go and get the qualifications you're going to need
00:28:17.660 to actually build the AI data center.
00:28:20.680 then you'll be making real money.
00:28:25.220 And those are big challenges coming.
00:28:27.420 I mean, that's a whole show we could do.
00:28:29.540 I mean, the demographic shift due to AI,
00:28:31.460 the AI data centers that a lot of them,
00:28:33.580 they've turned into the new chemtrails
00:28:34.840 because the paranoid are now applying every possible ill to them.
00:28:38.020 I mean, they're just large buildings with computers.
00:28:39.700 They use a lot of energy.
00:28:41.200 Fair enough.
00:28:41.740 We have a lot of energy.
00:28:43.460 But as far as employment, they're not that great.
00:28:46.900 I mean, a multi-billion dollar facility,
00:28:49.340 and it's really only going to create a couple hundred permanent jobs.
00:28:53.820 There's where some of the discussion is going to universal basic income
00:28:56.020 or how are we going to model and change our society
00:28:58.360 when we've had a massive category of jobs that really have vanished
00:29:02.200 and they're going to.
00:29:04.540 But again, maybe we should reevaluate how many temporary foreign workers we got.
00:29:09.120 I mean, I don't know. 0.84
00:29:09.880 I don't mind serving coffee at Tim Hortons if I had,
00:29:12.380 and I don't want to go this route,
00:29:13.600 but a basic income that brought me up to this level
00:29:16.400 and i'm making extra now with the physical job that ai can't do frankly at our age we'd be better off
00:29:23.840 lobbying for a higher pension yeah true enough it's not like my job length is going terrible
00:29:28.960 these guys can worry about the universal basically oh yeah thanks but uh as always we seem to wait
00:29:34.800 till everything becomes a crisis before we look at fixing it though and i guess the generation's
00:29:38.640 got a scary thing to look ahead to uh all right well let's move on to the last one i mean there's
00:29:43.200 something that they i can't do yet anyways until robocop comes along uh police servicing and people
00:29:51.040 on the ground uh uh calgary police service dave what's going on oh well the head worthy park
00:29:57.360 shooting apparently two cops pulled over this guy that was i mean it was just a routine from what
00:30:02.480 we know it was a routine traffic stop over near edworthy park which i guess technically is in the
00:30:06.320 southwest off star sea trail just west of downtown and i guess yeah he shot one of the cops twice
00:30:12.480 fled into the park he ended up carjacking somebody then car got stuck he got up and he was
00:30:17.440 basically a running gun battle with the cops and there was nearby civilians that said that
00:30:20.640 he was trying to shoot at them too it was all over the place so there was a fairly decently
00:30:24.800 long gun battle there and then he ended up the cops found him by the river i can't remember if
00:30:29.200 it was by the river in the river and he apparently died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound but
00:30:33.840 afterwards the police said that he was they found out he was like a known organized crime target
00:30:38.880 that they were aware of but they still haven't released a name or anything so that's kind of
00:30:43.360 what everyone's wondering why they haven't released a name yet i mean i know it's part
00:30:46.000 of an ongoing investigation but it still seems like if the guy is deceased and he was a non-criminal
00:30:51.840 you know member why has there been no name or even any descriptors about the guy at all and
00:30:57.280 i've seen people defending you know the police holding it back but i mean jackson you've been
00:31:02.000 you know tasked with calling and finding out things and so on often in many many cases as
00:31:06.480 as soon as somebody's been charged or if it's been settled the name comes out i mean
00:31:10.480 you know you can say alleged and all sorts of things around it but the name is not a secret
00:31:15.120 it tends to come out why do you think they're sitting on this one i have no idea and it is
00:31:20.000 bizarre because like you said like i mean that's like a daily occurrence we call in cps saying
00:31:24.160 you know can i get a statement about this kind of statement that can you tell me more about this
00:31:27.040 case and they're usually to be fair to them quite quite eager not eager actually not they're not
00:31:31.360 eager at all actually but they're usually quite willing to hand over information if you push hard
00:31:35.200 enough so it is i i i mean i don't know why that this in this particular case maybe with the
00:31:39.520 organized crime aspect there might be some other cases he's involved in they don't want to but
00:31:44.080 surely if you're involved in organized crime and know the guy you know he's been he's been it is
00:31:48.800 killed or killed himself or well and i'll mention the elephant in the room before i go to nigel
00:31:53.680 organized gangs in calgary we don't have swedish ones we don't have dukeboard ones
00:31:58.320 they tend to be ethnic minorities and when i moved to calgary and it changes vietnamese gangs were 0.77
00:32:03.440 the big thing actually because there were still the remnants from the influx of the boat people
00:32:08.160 and so on in the 80s back in the day when i was a kid yeah and then the it went in respectable
00:32:12.880 though yeah i know right jamaican gangs became problematic into the 90s uh it just comes with
00:32:20.080 disenfranchised uh young immigrants it tends to happen often things like that but there's a lot
00:32:24.960 of speculation the bottom line is they just don't want to cause the headache when it's realized that
00:32:29.280 this is probably not somebody with a name that's associated with homework yes well unfortunately i
00:32:37.680 think the police are very uh sensitive to that and not necessarily because they want to be sensitive
00:32:43.760 but because the police commissions that supervise their activities are have a heavy leavening of
00:32:50.000 woke people in it who jump on them and if they if they say too much and give anybody fuel for that
00:32:58.080 argument we were having earlier about maybe it's time to send a few people back. That's
00:33:04.800 not their vision of how they want society to look. So I think if you knew the whole story,
00:33:11.840 and maybe we will someday, it is possible that there's an ongoing investigation. That's possible,
00:33:18.080 that he's part of or was part of. But it could also just simply be the police, who they have to
00:33:26.160 not offend and therefore careful not to give offense could be but acerts also involved now
00:33:32.700 and it's i got in touch with them and they said that they don't release names of people involved
00:33:37.740 in an incident without consent so it would be the person involved who's dead or their next of kin
00:33:43.160 so i don't think the next of kin are going to want the name to come out and the thing about acert as
00:33:47.240 well that i find odd i've talked about this with dave is a lot of the acert reports when they're
00:33:50.280 finally done investigations still don't name people regardless so it's another thing to throw
00:33:55.740 into the mix really so yeah i mean it gets yeah i i mean i'm just suspecting on this even if that's
00:34:00.120 not the case in this case we've seen it in other cases particularly in the uk and that's when it
00:34:04.680 becomes dangerous i mean for years the reports were squeaking out and so on but the police
00:34:09.560 wouldn't talk about it and so on there were rape gangs there were grooming gangs there were
00:34:14.320 countless young ladies being molested and abused and so on and the bottom line when it's all
00:34:22.420 finally come out they were pakistani gangs that's not saying every pakistani person
00:34:27.220 by all means is participating in those but in those particular gangs they were all pakistani people 0.76
00:34:34.340 how do you solve it if you won't look at the root well they won't look at the root and and they
00:34:39.940 won't even uh take action when the the story is clear one of the ringleaders of those uh rape
00:34:47.380 gangs was actually caught tried convicted he was not a citizen and they still wouldn't deport him
00:34:57.140 this came out about six weeks ago i remember hearing that so um they have the same problem
00:35:04.500 over there they just can't bring themselves to take action against a criminal yeah it seems like
00:35:11.060 i don't know i've talked about this before but it seems like they care more about the human rights
00:35:14.660 of criminals in the actual you know safety law-abiding citizens yeah it's just i don't
00:35:19.060 understand how they that ever came to be an ideology that's when i get upset i mean political
00:35:22.660 correctness is usually annoying but it's when it becomes dangerous uh we got a problem i i remember
00:35:28.500 an article i went off about it it was ctv well it wasn't just that it was that it was the press
00:35:33.060 release from the police service but talked about be on the lookout for this repeat sex offender
00:35:37.380 dangerous goes after children this and that we've released this this woman she's very very dangerous
00:35:42.980 and and uh you know keep an eye out and that's fine until you click through on the press release
00:35:48.340 and you realize it's a man he's got five o'clock shadow but he's got a couple earrings on
00:35:53.460 he's identifying as trans they're calling him a woman now we need a description when you're
00:35:59.380 pointing out somebody dangerous people looking around will think wow there's this dangerous
00:36:03.860 woman wandering around i'll keep my eyes peeled no this was not a woman let's not be politically
00:36:09.300 correct when they're talking about public safety but they won't do it and we've seen that as well
00:36:13.480 i think jackson you know where they don't like talking about the the gender or the the the skin
00:36:17.840 color and things like that when there's somebody on the loose it's not a matter of racism we just
00:36:21.820 want to point out who it is i think it's not just the i don't think it's not just the fear of again
00:36:25.320 the societal uh repercussions or like the you know talking about the wolf and everything else
00:36:29.420 i think it's also a fear that that person whoever it is if they are convicted that can
00:36:33.800 push that if they are say they are a woman identifying as a man or vice versa or whatever
00:36:39.200 it is and they said oh because they misgendered me in this press release that's this form of 0.54
00:36:43.240 whatever the hell and I can get like the you know just complicate the case so I think it's they
00:36:47.760 might be worried about that as well because obviously we seem like the politicization of
00:36:50.440 judges and saying oh this could this could constitute a a form of discrimination and the
00:36:55.260 case is thrown into this disrepute or something I feel like there there is more sides to I think
00:36:59.720 than just the cultural thing but I mean one was very recent in Chestermere where there was
00:37:03.900 surveillance of a guy who was repeatedly assaulting women in parks out there. And they just talked
00:37:09.260 about it being a man and gave a height description. I think that was it. And you looked, well,
00:37:15.340 this is a South Asian man. I understand. We don't want people out there becoming fearful of every
00:37:20.940 South Asian person they see or, or targeting them or taking a revenge on that. That certainly is,
00:37:26.160 but this is a person on the loose right now. And yes, if you're in a park and there's a person of
00:37:32.320 that hue who is looking a little more dangerous than the others maybe you want to and if it was 0.99
00:37:35.880 a white person same thing I want to know what the person looks like yeah I don't care about the race 0.90
00:37:40.040 but they won't touch it but where does that land with media yeah well it's definitely one part of
00:37:49.160 the problem as well I would say too especially sort of the left-leaning mainstream media I guess
00:37:53.400 you could say they just kind of go along with the liberal policies it would seem that is definitely
00:37:57.000 a part because I mean actually there's an interesting this happened a while ago but
00:38:01.200 There was a police news release that we got that listed the names of all these criminals.
00:38:06.560 I can't remember what it was.
00:38:07.720 It was some sort of maybe smuggling ring or something and listed all of them.
00:38:09.960 And they were all ethnic names.
00:38:11.600 We published the names.
00:38:12.760 And I went to multiple mainstream media outlets that all probably got the same release.
00:38:17.660 No names in any of them.
00:38:19.500 So that's a problem.
00:38:20.200 Actually, there was one today actually was a drug ring.
00:38:23.520 I think it was in Calgary, a chest room or something.
00:38:25.540 Eight people arrested.
00:38:26.660 And as I get a lot of my news on, just read it.
00:38:29.620 And the article, I saw the headline, read the article, and I had to go to the actual comments of the Reddit post to say somebody actually, they didn't include in the article, fear of the names of the people.
00:38:37.980 And the names actually, it's quite a multi-ethnic gang.
00:38:40.340 You had like, air names, you had, yeah, well, they had a couple, they said it was a very like.
00:38:44.880 They probably got some quotas they got on there.
00:38:46.800 It was good on like a poster at a school or something with everybody.
00:38:51.660 Anybody can join.
00:38:54.160 See, now you put the names in, you're just a bad person.
00:38:57.400 I blame that on Dave, to be honest.
00:38:58.820 You know, the other story that's going around right now, Corey, that I'm going to be fascinated to see where this one lands is the Fauci diaries.
00:39:08.940 Have you been paying any attention to it?
00:39:11.800 The Senate has got the Fauci diaries.
00:39:17.340 And he is, with a view to, I think, perhaps writing a book one day, keeping a very careful
00:39:23.820 record of everything he said and who he said it to during the COVID crisis. And in the hands of the
00:39:32.540 people who are dealing with this, he comes across as an outright liar in some cases,
00:39:40.380 and certainly highly deceptive and drafting his message from the very start and you're going to
00:39:47.660 find that there are people who went through hell in covet and they went through hell on the basis
00:39:57.580 of the recommendations of antony fauci and people like him who worked for him or who thought that
00:40:03.180 he was a genius and the covet show is not over no it's not and and the grilling he got in front of
00:40:13.420 a committee i was i was a if you want some clips and as he sat there and smugly just saying i've
00:40:18.860 he just kept repeating the line as instructed by my counsel i'm taking the fifth and he even asked
00:40:24.140 him things like you know what color is the jacket you're wearing on the advice of my legal he was
00:40:28.780 instructed to not answer anything that's an insult to the people that's a gross gross insult it's not
00:40:35.580 over there's hundreds of thousands of words to go through thousands of pages i mean this
00:40:43.340 just somebody who would keep a diary with that much information about themselves and
00:40:48.140 noting with satisfaction that so-and-so called me today and they said i did great you know
00:40:53.180 this kind of thing oh my word but anyway there's a i just say this for the benefit of many people
00:41:01.180 who gave up a lot to follow their consequences during those years you may well get the last
00:41:09.100 it won't be a laugh but you may have the last word i hope some folks are held accountable i
00:41:13.100 mean he he led the charge on a lot of the you know the policies that ended up coming in over
00:41:17.260 here that was the authority that was the north american top yep person in there he was the guy
00:41:22.300 And it turns out the whole lot of what they were putting out was just BS.
00:41:26.220 I mean, did you see that thing that they did about, was it miscarriages? They were saying,
00:41:32.060 oh, that's not that many miscarriages. And there was something that came out that said that they
00:41:34.860 knew that the rate of miscarriages from taking the vaccine could be very high compared to what
00:41:38.620 they were saying. Some of the discussion too on basically the fact that children without
00:41:44.620 comorbidities were virtually immune to it. It was nothing more than, you know, those statistics were
00:41:49.340 right in front of everybody's faces yeah what did they do they said we must vaccinate people under
00:41:53.420 five years old why yet well hopefully we get some of those answers that's a whole other show too
00:42:00.620 though credit rabbit hole to drop in our last few minutes uh you you you get to read the the hundred
00:42:06.380 thousand words first before that's what ai is for yeah we're doing a data center yeah and we needed
00:42:12.700 Well, okay. We're getting towards the end. We get into the parting shots. What did
00:42:19.180 you have in mind, Nigel, to throw out there? Well, you know, I was really intrigued by that
00:42:23.180 story of the bait and switch with Mr. Trump getting out of Ankara there. So they had reason
00:42:29.820 to believe that Air Force One might be targeted by an Iranian missile. So in front of the cameras,
00:42:36.860 Trump goes in, waves, moves up the corridor, leaves the plane by a hatch at the tail end,
00:42:46.700 and then is transferred using one of the catering company trucks, the ones that go up and down,
00:42:55.260 gets in that, takes over to another plane, he leaves in that, and Air Force One carries on.
00:43:00.540 Luckily, nothing happened to Air Force One, and a lot of the press who were on it were just
00:43:05.420 scandalized but you know i couldn't help thinking there's probably something about a food truck
00:43:10.620 because didn't mr trump also campaign driving a mcdonald's vehicle or something like that
00:43:18.540 it's his thing i think taylor swift was brought into concerts that way through a catering type of
00:43:25.340 box before as well he's maybe trump's taking cues from the pop stars they talk to each other
00:43:30.220 Yeah, he's taken worse advice, I think, over the years. All right, what do you got there?
00:43:40.220 I'll stick with Trump. And this is not to just harp on it. But his statement today saying that
00:43:45.660 the USA is total control straighter home moves. Obviously, this is what Grandhog Day now seems
00:43:50.220 like this has been the dozens of times he said this. But I think the recent statement from the
00:43:54.300 Iranians saying that the war that they will not concede the war until Trump's out of office,
00:43:58.460 but I think it just speaks to a larger issue with this.
00:44:00.840 They shouldn't have gotten involved in this war to begin with.
00:44:02.400 And I think it was the last time I was on Pipeline,
00:44:04.700 we talked about the Iran war.
00:44:05.820 And I think at that point we felt it wasn't going to,
00:44:07.540 it was a new thing, it was a novel thing.
00:44:09.400 And yet here we are three months later
00:44:11.220 and it's still trudging along.
00:44:13.340 And I just, seemingly with no foreseeable end in sight.
00:44:16.640 And just, yeah, statements from Trump 0.95
00:44:18.200 and statements from the Iranians
00:44:19.100 just doesn't seem like there's going to be
00:44:20.100 any sort of culmination anytime soon.
00:44:22.980 I've seen a lot of reason between them.
00:44:25.220 What do you got, Dave?
00:44:26.060 Well, Corey, mine actually has to deal
00:44:27.340 the union of british columbia indian chiefs we were talking about really the two of us they
00:44:31.340 released a letter i'm looking here it was sunday that they basically were calling on ottawa and
00:44:35.420 the alberta government to shut down their whole west coast oil pipeline proposal and there's a
00:44:40.380 whole lot of odd things about this group but apparently and i found this out the chief is a
00:44:45.420 guy named stewart phillip and this is something that i found a little interesting tidbit that
00:44:48.700 might be worth looking into his wife i believe her name is joan happens to be a ndp mla for a
00:44:54.780 Vancouver Strathcona since 2023 so yeah I don't know it seems very interesting against pipelines
00:45:01.860 his wife's NDP MLA no conflict there at all no not at all ah wow what do you expect with those
00:45:08.520 groups I think I just like to remind everybody there oh I've touched it already I gotta watch 0.99
00:45:14.160 how far I go in my touching or I'll get in trouble I mean you know the immigrants uh community can
00:45:19.000 touch and touch and not get deported but myself I'd be called out too quickly if I touched the
00:45:23.100 wrong spot with Indigenous issues. All right. That's enough of my leading talk. I've eaten up. 0.81
00:45:28.260 I don't have any closing remark to make after that. Thank you very much for joining me in this
00:45:33.880 diverse and colourful panel today for the pipeline, at least by our standards. We've got some youth
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