Western Standard - The pros and cons to a leaderless grassroots movement

00:00:00.000 All right, welcome back.

00:00:29.260 Thanks for joining me again on this beautiful Thursday afternoon in Calgary.

00:00:39.720 I'm just sort of calming down a little bit.

00:00:43.360 I had a busy schedule this morning.

00:00:45.440 I was rushing to get here.

00:00:47.380 I just want to show you something.

00:00:48.900 I'm drinking this water, and I got it.

00:00:53.720 I just ran back from CNRL's annual general meeting.

00:00:58.180 I love this time of year. I'm a former oil and gas guy, right? I've climbed through the ranks of a few companies. And in retirement, I own shares in a lot of different companies. And I particularly love this time of year because we get the annual general meetings. And one of my favorite annual general meetings is the one put on by CNRL by Murray Edwards, a great Canadian company.

00:01:20.580 And that's something I wanted to talk about last week that I never got to talk about last week. Last week was the fact that another great Canadian company got bought out last week. ARC Resources got bought out by Shell. And, you know, and some people said that was good and some people said that was bad.

00:01:39.080 i mean it's neither here or there for me oil companies get bought out and sold and reacquired

00:01:45.320 shells come here and and produced and sold and left and come back and you know that those are

00:01:51.240 the pros and cons that that's capitalism i mean and and i'm not going to criticize that but i'm

00:01:56.520 just going to say i i enjoy going to murray edwards cnrl's presentation in particular murray has a

00:02:02.520 really cool style of presenting and explaining and and i will say this about uh murray when i

00:02:09.960 was listening to him man that guy knows his business like he's literally up on stage and

00:02:14.520 taking questions and he was taking like he'll take complicated questions on uh the credit rating of

00:02:20.120 the company and uh um you know the different assets working with government uh land issues

00:02:26.840 or whatever and it's a you know people often criticize ceos of large companies for the salaries

00:02:31.720 that they make but i'll but but quite honestly most of them maybe maybe making a thousand times

00:02:37.880 more you know the salary of your average employee might be a little excessive but i mean there's a 0.93

00:02:42.880 reason why some of those guys take on some big salaries they they generally are not idiots they

00:02:47.880 know what's going on and they have a lot of risk in you know i don't think murray leaves the 0.82

00:02:52.980 business at home when he's um when he goes home i think he probably thinks about the business all

00:02:58.780 the time but and and then just back to this water somebody uh the only place i've ever seen this

00:03:03.660 water is at the agms i've said i've been there two three times in a over the years and i think

00:03:09.140 it's murray's favorite water so uh maybe i'm doing some some free advertising for murray right now

00:03:14.140 it's not my intent um all right uh lots to talk about again today just a reminder um you know

00:03:21.380 where this is i think this is about john what my 12th or 13th show now like almost three months

00:03:27.460 in a row of of doing the show and i and then we're experimenting with the call-in uh concept

00:03:33.460 and the call-in show only works if you guys call in and again it's about you right what you want

00:03:39.640 to talk about uh but i will start off with you know the topic of the day and and then perhaps

00:03:46.300 we'll go from there i mean i i i give myself a list of topics of things that i find of interest

00:03:50.840 that i want to talk about actually let me let me let me just remind you guys of that right

00:03:54.860 online marty up north i'm known as marty up north the unacceptable fact checker right and it's

00:04:01.140 something i've said before it's something i'm not a i'm i'm a participant in stuff but more

00:04:06.780 important but more i think more of myself as an observer not as an investigator i'm not an

00:04:12.100 investigator i don't dive deep into stories i'm not a journalist uh i'm a commentator i'm a guy

00:04:18.340 who looks at what's happening and sometimes i'm fascinated by not necessarily the exact obvious

00:04:23.960 of what's happening but sometimes i'm more fascinated by the reaction of people and um so

00:04:28.680 i just wanted to to bring that up because a lot of people think i'm a journalist but i'm not

00:04:34.280 um and so the topic today that so before i got here right yeah i'm online every day but before

00:04:41.160 i start before i show up here i just i just do a refresh i go through my timeline see what i

00:04:46.200 spoke about or tweeted about during the week uh what caught my interest then i do a quick search

00:04:51.480 on the internet just to see and right now quite honestly here in alberta in the world that i

00:04:58.280 exist in which is not the real world right x is not necessarily the real world it's important to

00:05:03.000 get out and touch grass but in the world that i sort of exist in right now there's still only one

00:05:07.640 topic and that's independence and uh so let's start it off by just talking real quick about

00:05:13.400 what happened this week which i think is an amazing event so on monday mitch sylvester

00:05:21.800 has been collecting all the petition sheets um for for the last couple of weeks and on monday he

00:05:28.840 started out the day with a video of him putting all these bankers boxes in a trailer out in

00:05:33.960 bonnieville and when i was on when i was when i saw the video of him loading those boxes i'm like

00:05:39.240 counting them i'm like okay five by eight deep looks like about 40 boxes and then i estimated

00:05:45.000 about uh you know 2 000 signatures or 2 000 pages per box times five signatures so there's 10 000

00:05:52.360 so 40 boxes i'm like okay on the on the mid side 400 000 signatures but if they're packed in there

00:05:59.400 loosely maybe less uh he drove all the way to elections alberta had a big party uh i don't

00:06:07.640 know john if you have any scenes from that but it turned out to be people from uh all over the pro

00:06:13.640 there's mitch holding one of those bankers boxes that's why i was off right because he had sorted

00:06:18.840 all the signatures i think literally by canvas or by people who collected them and so they weren't

00:06:25.240 all packed in there tightly so maybe less than 1800 or less than 2000 but um 100 oh and that

00:06:31.640 that was another nice touch by the way mitch very nice touch he put the uh for on each box he had

00:06:37.560 the picture i just got goosebumps thinking about it on each box he put the can a picture of a

00:06:41.640 canvasser so was anybody there did anybody see my picture on any of the boxes i hope uh that i got

00:06:47.880 a picture on one of the boxes they drove him to edmonton uh i'd say easily 100 people maybe 200

00:06:54.680 people showed up a few speeches flags waved everywhere and then they they interestingly

00:07:01.760 they weighed the boxes mitch says they they weighed each box and then sealed it and then

00:07:08.200 signed on a seal like kind of like presenting evidence right the boxes are sealed wait

00:07:12.640 weighed and then turned over to elections alberta who received them so kind of an interesting and

00:07:18.420 and i'll i'll touch on why that was and then mitch uh told us that there was 301 000

00:07:27.940 plus change signatures so that's impressive right so over the uh there's a great picture

00:07:34.260 right there of what it looked like like just flags everywhere by the way i'm so happy now

00:07:38.900 you can finally get a can an alberta flag at canadian tire i i always found that this is

00:07:43.860 disappointing that for the longest time if you went to canadian tire you can get a canadian flag

00:07:47.620 but you couldn't get uh an alberta flag so they've they've smartened up and they saw the value now

00:07:53.240 and they're selling uh alberta flags but anyways um 300 000 signatures is i think is quite an

00:07:59.640 accomplishment because like i said i collected signatures right i had to um to everybody who

00:08:06.460 came to me to sign the petition i had to ask for their driver's license or some proof of because

00:08:12.400 i had to ask three questions actually here's my speech here's what i said every time somebody

00:08:16.260 came to see me i'm like i'd see them step out of their truck walk towards me as like hi good

00:08:20.900 morning how's it going are you here to sign the independence petition and most people say absolutely

00:08:26.500 darn rights i am once in a while somebody turn around go oops wrong petition and then i'd say

00:08:31.780 have you signed it before no uh okay then uh then they'd say what do i need from you and i'd say 0.97

00:08:37.620 well i need proof that you're an alberta citizen over 18 eligible to vote here and i'd say typically

00:08:44.660 i need your driver's license and as soon as somebody handed me their driver's license i would

00:08:48.180 look at their driver's license and i was quickly zooming in on one thing which was the address to

00:08:53.220 make sure that it wasn't a po box now i live in the country so a lot of people who handed me their

00:08:58.340 driver's license i'd be like oh uh po box do you have something with your physical address on it

00:09:05.300 and and then people would like be scratching their head i'd be like maybe it's your registration in

00:09:09.140 the car maybe you got a picture of your 911 sign for your property or something like that

00:09:14.500 and and then i would get uh sometimes i had to turn away somebody and say sorry you'll have to

00:09:19.540 go home and get a proof of physical address your gas bill your tax assessment or something like

00:09:23.700 that and come back but we validate and i'm every signature i collected i was almost never alone

00:09:30.020 very very very rarely alone i always had my wife with me or some friends other canvassers and so

00:09:35.380 everybody witnessed each other behaving according to the code of conduct and collecting signatures

00:09:40.500 so the fact that mitch got 300 000 signatures in the weather conditions that we had was amazing

00:09:46.580 and i'll come back to the weather and i'll come back to the to the conditions but i got a caller

00:09:50.900 on the line so uh again quick reminder uh just let me know your name where you're calling from and uh

00:09:58.420 make a comment or ask a question go ahead on the line

00:10:03.540 hi i'm george from calvary good morning how are you or good afternoon how's it going

00:10:10.500 it's going pretty well how are you good good what's your what's your question what's on your mind

00:10:16.660 uh um we had quite a bit of uh news from uh from traditional media regarding the

00:10:23.300 interference from uh from russia and uh uh u.s and so on and so on and it looked like a

00:10:30.180 a playbook for me uh that happened several years ago with uh with uh um

00:10:36.340 Russian interference in the U.S. election, which comes to be wrong.

00:10:42.700 Also, very close to what happened in Eastern Europe a year and a half ago

00:10:51.760 with the campaign in the election.

00:10:58.660 So, what are your thoughts?

00:11:00.760 So, let me ask you then.

00:11:02.860 so when you read those stories do you think there's interference and where you mentioned

00:11:08.380 russian interference but where do you think most of the interference occurs in our in our elections

00:11:13.820 or in our democratic process here in alberta uh well i think it's uh it's somewhere else other

00:11:22.540 than russia and the united states um personal i think it's uh for what we can see right now

00:11:30.220 without having the proof right allegedly depending to interference from china and uh um

00:11:38.380 interference from from india but other than that i have no other proof yeah yeah awesome yeah okay

00:11:44.780 no appreciate the comment thanks for calling yeah so okay thanks yeah that's um it's on my list of

00:11:54.620 things that i wanted to talk about today maybe we'll come back to interference because there

00:11:57.820 were some some some interesting discussions on that online but i just want to go back to what

00:12:01.900 happened on monday so mitch handed in the signatures 301 000 i think it uh very uh collected

00:12:09.100 under extreme like very tight uh protocols and rules and i have no doubt that everybody all the

00:12:16.940 canvassers followed the letter the rules very closely and and the signatures are legit on my

00:12:23.180 way here to work uh you know i walked down stevens avenue it's like a lunch time and i mean the

00:12:29.180 patios are out and everybody's in in mass like the difference between the people outside versus

00:12:34.540 today versus say a month ago it's night and day it's dramatic right and everybody's in a good mood

00:12:40.540 and and and as i'm walking down that's all i kept thinking is man when i was sitting on the side of

00:12:45.340 the road collecting those signatures through january february march how miserable it was and

00:12:49.740 how little how how how i still accomplish getting a lot of signatures despite the weather and i

00:12:55.340 can't help but think if i was out there collecting today how easy it would be right so i think the

00:13:01.580 300 000 signatures were very hard to obtain they were obtained in uh in according to the rules set

00:13:09.020 out by by by by the by the legislature and by elections alberta and then and then i hear a

00:13:16.060 a lot of people comparing it to um thomas dukazic's uh forever canada or forever whatever his name is

00:13:23.480 of his and he claims to have gotten just over 400 000 and they were collected under a different

00:13:30.040 time under different rules and and it's not really an apples to apples comparison but i but in a sense

00:13:36.340 it is i mean uh make no mistake this is not a fringe movement there was 300 000 people who put

00:13:42.300 their name on a piece of paper now given that what's the next step right so how come mitch how

00:13:49.100 come they were sealing the the signatures and boxes and weighing them well if you remember uh

00:13:56.120 back on april 7 8 9 the um uh several first nations up in northern alberta specifically

00:14:04.580 around sturgeon there around valley view uh filed an injunction trying to stop this whole petition

00:14:11.300 process and both sides were heard and the judge on april 10th after hearing all the comments from

00:14:18.260 both sides couldn't make a ruling quite yet and so the judge says i need time to make my ruling

00:14:25.060 and but while i'm making my ruling or pondering or adjudicating i will stay not the signature

00:14:33.540 collection but i will stop elections alberta from counting the signatures so that's why they were

00:14:40.580 delivered on monday um they have them in their possession but elections alberta at this point

00:14:45.860 cannot count them cannot start the process of validating them you know picking out a random

00:14:51.060 number of them and calling people to make sure that they were done properly validating whatever

00:14:56.020 signatures they can't do their quality control they can't count them and they certainly can't

00:15:01.220 do the next step which is turn them over afterwards to um alberta's uh justice minister uh mickey

00:15:10.020 amory so we're on hold now right we're on hold and um and that and april 7th the judge passed that

00:15:20.280 stay on april 10th now it's it's kind of a indefinite stay but in principle it's kind of

00:15:28.980 like a month-long stay 30 days and so april 10th comes to 30 days later is like may 10th right if

00:15:35.700 i'm looking at my watch and may 10th is just around the corner basically it's monday so i

00:15:41.280 think a couple of things will happen either on monday this would be either on monday the judge

00:15:46.960 comes out and says i approve the injunction or i reject the injunction and then the process

00:15:54.360 continues depending on which other path or a third option is that the judge on monday or in

00:16:00.100 very near future says i haven't made my full decision and therefore i extend the the stay

00:16:07.700 for whatever another period i imagined another 30 days and which means that elections alberta

00:16:13.140 couldn't continue the process and couldn't start counting for another 30 days um now of course me

00:16:20.260 being an end you know separatist my favorite outcome would be if on monday the judge said

00:16:25.540 i reject the stay the citizens process is valid let it continue that'd be my number one choice

00:16:32.260 uh the worst scenario would be uh if on monday the judge said i approve the stay and the petition is

00:16:40.500 invalid either of those scenarios on monday for or against i think triggers uh appeals right if the

00:16:50.580 if the first nations are unsuccessful they'll appeal if uh if we're unsuccessful we'll appeal

00:16:57.860 you know what i'm saying so there's a lot of steps to to go on and then in the back of my mind what

00:17:04.580 worries me all the time is the fact that october 19th has already been set as the target date to

00:17:11.540 hold referendums and to have this question added there that's because alberta has set election

00:17:16.660 dates the next provincial election is next year i think it's october 19th or 20th next year

00:17:23.380 2027 so a referendum has to be held you know a year and one day in advance of that election

00:17:30.100 and then it takes time for the whole uh for the election for the signatures to be counted

00:17:36.100 for the government to decide something for the question to be added to a referendum and so forth

00:17:40.740 so if i if i count back from october 19th the government of alberta needs to make a decision

00:17:46.020 on an independence question somewhere around you know mid to late july uh and then there's

00:17:52.420 the camps to talk about the fact that the the lukastic petitions valid etc etc etc so it's uh

00:18:00.900 it's we're not done yet but it was uh it was an important uh step that was crossed and now i think

00:18:09.140 um mitch and a few others are going to take a little bit of a break take i would take a week

00:18:14.740 off that everybody deserves a week off enjoy the summer go have a couple beers on the patio

00:18:19.540 and then they'll get back on the campaign trail even though there's some uncertainty about the

00:18:24.500 future i think we need to continue educating albertans about the value of um of independence

00:18:34.420 um and and and then since i'm on that topic a big news last week i just want to just keep talking

00:18:42.660 just ever so slightly about this one right so we we still have all the development around um

00:18:51.860 this data breach and i just want to all i want to say about that is that for me it's been

00:19:02.020 interesting to watch the event in and of itself is interesting but the reactions around it are

00:19:08.420 interesting how people or how different camps are reacting to it and so forth and so forth

00:19:12.900 but i just want to put a question out there to the general group to you guys and call in and let's

00:19:19.140 chat about this one perhaps but one of the things that we keep referring to when we talk about the

00:19:25.540 independence movement is the fact that it's grassroots and and grassroots mean it's not

00:19:30.900 led meaning in this instance it's not led by a political party of some sort it's citizens through

00:19:37.380 the citizens initiative and other things so it's grassroots and the the advantage of so grassroots

00:19:43.700 has advantages and disadvantages right so grassroots means there's no specific leader

00:19:49.060 there are some spokespeople there are people that are more prominent as leaders you know mitch

00:19:53.700 sylvester jeff rath uh dennis modry others like that um but but officially there isn't a leader

00:20:02.020 and grassroots means that there's a lot of organizations that are doing their things

00:20:06.180 whether it's stay free alberta the alberta prosperity project uh different parties uh

00:20:13.700 you know the ndp have their for canada or for alberta for canada so you can see like the

00:20:20.180 they're on the other side but they're you know they're they're they're attacking but on the on

00:20:25.060 the independent side there's a there's a whole bunch of groups that are popping up you know

00:20:29.620 uh i've said it before i i forget his name but um not his name is his group's name but

00:20:34.660 chris scott at the whistle stop like he's very active doing some uh touring uh uh cory morgan

00:20:41.620 who who's you you guys are familiar with here at the western standard he goes on speaking tours

00:20:46.660 tanya clemens let's be i've spoken right so lots of people are speaking so that's grassroots

00:20:51.460 and and then i keep hearing people say uh there's pros and cons so i'd say what happened with the

00:20:57.860 centurion group this week shows a definitely a a negative side of a grassroots because when

00:21:04.180 it's grassroots you don't have control of everybody who's doing stuff there isn't a central

00:21:09.540 group you know monitoring the situation and saying yeah that's a good idea that's a bad idea it's

00:21:14.180 grassroots so and um and so some people now are calling saying that it's time to unite the groups

00:21:21.860 together and have one group continue in the campaign and one leader and i'm i'm a little

00:21:28.820 undecided still yet i don't know i've said before i think i think i think the advantages of of being

00:21:36.260 grassroots right now and not having a very specific leader outweigh um the other side because

00:21:43.140 i'll tell you the i fear that once we have one leader then the attacks will be all coordinated

00:21:50.180 and aimed at that one leader so that's my fear so i'd appreciate if you guys want to call in and

00:21:54.980 talk about that you know what's your thoughts on on grassroots movements and whether it's time to

00:22:02.980 to to organize around one leader all right let me take a quick sip of murray's favorite water

00:22:12.820 please call folks you're making me talk too much here which it gets um i'm not a i like talking but

00:22:18.900 i you know i like debating and some of these issues right now i find they don't lend themselves very

00:22:25.860 well to just a monologue because there there's the i can view them through such a broad broad lens

00:22:35.860 john's highlighting a comment for me what's the highlighted comment better be

00:22:41.700 uh better be leaderless look at what they did to tamara oh yeah yeah that's um

00:22:48.900 That's an interesting, that's a great comment. I mean, that's, well, you know, I want to talk about, that is something I wanted to talk about in the, again, in the lens of the events that happened in this last week and what can happen, right? That's a great example.

00:23:02.920 like um when when when you start to when you start to push too hard against the establishment

00:23:11.620 and I've talked about this right the trucking convoy was an example the ostrich farm I think

00:23:15.460 was an example you know you you question and then and maybe you're you're pushing a little

00:23:21.460 too hard and then you see this pushback from the government and um and Tamara's a perfect

00:23:27.100 example of that I've I've listened I've met her in person I've listened to her talk and I think

00:23:31.720 uh i'm i'm i'm so glad that she's still strong and she's still doing what she's doing because

00:23:37.600 it would have been easy to just retreat and disappear after what she'd been subjected to

00:23:44.020 and i think that was kind of what the government wanted right to make an example of her and they

00:23:48.940 were unsuccessful imagine that like um what a great uh what's the word role model and and an

00:23:59.520 example for us like you know you talk about the David and Goliath that's what I wanted to get

00:24:03.740 you know let's let's use that David and Goliath right Tamara is like Tamara and Goliath I mean 0.67

00:24:08.960 Tamara I've met her in person I don't even think she's five feet like I think she's four foot 1.00

00:24:13.320 11 or something like that she even got charged at one point with intimidation like she's the 1.00

00:24:20.720 perfect example of the smallest person imaginable and then the government throwing its full force

00:24:27.620 uh against her i i think that is just a shameful chapter in uh in in our history

00:24:34.480 what they did to her the the trucking convoy and the protests in ottawa on the other hand is one

00:24:42.200 of the most amazing chapters in our history and i think that will be talked about um in in academia

00:24:48.000 and for a long long time uh go ahead call her on the line where are you calling from

00:24:52.580 Hi, it's Wayne. I'm calling from Calgary, Marty. I see you're not very important there.

00:25:00.940 They said if I want to talk to Corey, dial 711, so you're going to have to get them to

00:25:05.140 change that to Corey or Marty, eh?

00:25:08.100 Oh, okay.

00:25:08.580 So I went up to Edmonton on Monday. Sorry, just being sarcastic.

00:25:14.500 I went up to Edmonton on Monday. It's a great time. You know, lots of people. We've got

00:25:21.220 our signatures, and as the one lawyer said, now we've got 700,000 signatures for a referendum,

00:25:29.700 300 from us and 400 from the other side. And my biggest deal was people who did want to sign

00:25:39.380 because of a trucker's convoy. They already had their bank account seized once, and they didn't

00:25:44.440 want to have it seized again. So that was a major concern when I was out collecting signatures.

00:25:49.660 so it was great and lastly marty if you want we're going to fall's pizza on friday at five

00:25:55.900 o'clock i know you look close to airdrie so we're going to be out there for pizza on five o'clock

00:25:59.980 some of us canvassers i don't know how many are going to show up so if you want to show up you're

00:26:04.840 welcome okay i appreciate it yeah um i was just there on uh saturday um but i wouldn't mind going

00:26:12.880 back as i uh when i was there on saturday farouk wasn't there and i wanted to have a chat with him

00:26:18.040 cool thanks for thanks for thanks for the actually are you still on the line

00:26:22.380 yeah how was the

00:26:24.660 go ahead how was the

00:26:28.520 go ahead say what

00:26:32.000 it's positive like it's positive like

00:26:35.780 we're everybody's I'm positive it's not if we're going to win it's when we're

00:26:40.980 going to win the independence and I'm the leader I know you're

00:26:44.300 we're asking about that unlike you i have mixed about that but for now i just like it's like the

00:26:50.060 pop-up groups when we're getting signatures it's just nice to have people pop up and we just can't

00:26:55.820 quit now like we have to keep being out there showing people about alberta informing people

00:27:03.020 we're not in a political campaign we're not restricted to 30 days so i'm going to try and

00:27:09.180 be out every weekend you know wave on my flag you know just put my signs up for independence

00:27:15.740 spend a couple hours every weekend or during the week whatever i can

00:27:20.620 and hopefully people come and talk to you and just want to be informed awesome all right

00:27:25.660 thanks for that yeah hopefully i see you on friday um yeah paul's no no saturday saturday

00:27:31.660 at five okay thank you cheers have a great day yeah paul's pizza um you know an example of uh

00:27:44.380 paul paul's pizza right now okay so paul paul paul's pizza it's an old business i think it's

00:27:50.760 at least 15 years in in the eds or in airdrie was bought out in the last four or five years

00:27:56.660 ago by somebody else. And it's not the first time that he's been in the middle of a little

00:28:04.140 bit of a storm for some comments online or whatever. I mean, he kind of made a joke about

00:28:10.020 the LBGTQIAS plus community, whatever the alphabet is. He made a joke about them. And

00:28:17.060 then people started attacking the business online saying, don't go there. You know, people

00:28:25.240 would go as far as ordering 100 pizzas and not picking them up and i don't think he fell for that

00:28:29.880 one um and and and anyways in in in their case the bad publicity had what we call the streisand

00:28:38.280 effect right sometimes when you the the bad publicity uh flips and turns into good publicity

00:28:44.520 and so i i can't tell you the number of people i know who suddenly discovered uh paul's pizza just

00:28:50.360 for that reason and went out there just because of all the negative publicity they were getting

00:28:54.840 and by the way um he wouldn't even need the bad publicity or the like word of mouth is sufficient

00:29:01.880 for him the pizza's actually amazing i mean he serves a deep dish pizza like that that is this

00:29:06.840 thick i went there on saturday last week with a buddy and i ordered the greek and you're even the

00:29:14.040 little one well some of you guys i'm sure can finish it but i couldn't even finish the eight

00:29:17.800 inch never mind you know the the bigger ones and then the other thing i really like about paul's

00:29:21.720 pizza how alberton is it because i've done this before he knew what he was doing uh if i go in my

00:29:29.320 if i'm if i'm going to the gun range and i needed uh some targets to shoot at i would often just go

00:29:34.680 into my recycle bin in the garage and then you'd have a bunch of pizza boxes and then you took the

00:29:39.560 pizza boxes in the truck and then you pizza boxes were always perfect at the gun range or out in the

00:29:45.320 bush not at the gun range because there we have proper targets but if you're just going in the

00:29:48.680 bush to shoot with somebody's and you just want to cite something in the pizza box is always perfect

00:29:53.240 and then you just drew a circle on it you got a nice piece of cardboard you know what i mean

00:29:56.760 and paul figured that out so if you take a paul's pizza box and flip it upside down on the back side

00:30:01.880 of his pizza boxes there's actually a target how cool is that so uh proper good alberta um roots

00:30:09.400 there um all right so i think all right well let's let's uh we're done talking about the independence

00:30:15.800 movement for today i guess unless you guys call in and want to talk about it and let me just go down

00:30:20.840 my list then of other things i wanted to talk about because actually that's another good point

00:30:26.360 that i wanted to raise right i said to you guys i'm a commentator and often when i see stories i'm

00:30:32.360 i'm i'm i'm fascinated by the story and the events but sometimes i'm more fascinated by the

00:30:38.280 by the reaction and what else might be going on right and so when i see uh like as as an example

00:30:45.480 when stories get released on friday like when the government puts out a report on friday at 5 30

00:30:51.240 you know they don't want us to see it right because part of the news cycle is everything's

00:30:55.240 done and they put out the bad story on friday and then they hope that by monday it's over right we

00:30:59.880 call that so that's an example but the other thing is like when you have an example like what's

00:31:04.760 happening this week there's a bit of storm right there was a storm uh around the independence

00:31:08.680 movement and uh and by the way i don't think this was enough to to to ultimately um you know destroy

00:31:17.800 the independence movement it's more powerful than that i mean you like as much as there's efforts to

00:31:22.600 destroy the independence movement there are guys like mark carney that are doing a lot to promote

00:31:26.920 the independence movement but but back to what i was saying when there's a storm like this i like

00:31:31.880 to look more sometimes to see what's the story that we're all ignoring while this storm is going

00:31:38.280 on because sometimes there's another story that we're being that we're ignoring and that's the

00:31:42.040 that could be a bigger story because i think some of these storms are done on purpose

00:31:46.920 to to distract right and uh not saying this one was done for that um but but there are some

00:31:53.560 interesting stories that didn't get talked a lot about this week for me one of the interesting

00:31:58.200 stories that did not get talked a lot about this week was mark carney's visit to uh to europe like

00:32:04.840 he went to um a european uh conference i can't remember the name of the conference john i think

00:32:11.480 it was uh i think it's just an annual european conference in armenia and uh he was quote unquote

00:32:18.440 invited and then he gave an address and i and i love his address where he he referred again it's

00:32:25.160 the second time he's talked about the fact that you know uh canada is the most um european non-european

00:32:33.400 country and he brings that up and i'd challenge that but uh but he likes to bring it up i guess

00:32:40.340 the fact that we have uh you know he's admitting in that sense that that our ancestry is that we've

00:32:47.140 been you know populated by wave after wave of european immigrants and maybe we've used

00:32:52.240 a common law system and a westminster system and things like that so that in a sense makes us

00:32:58.220 european but i could say the same thing about australia i can say the same thing about new

00:33:01.940 zealand i can in fact almost say the same thing about uh several other countries most of the

00:33:06.740 caribbean uh the u.s at one point but he goes there and he brags that up and then and then

00:33:13.460 he he he says thank you for the invitation but if you listen to the sort of the subtle words that

00:33:20.300 he's saying i i it it's a continuation of something that i don't like carney is is is throwing the u.s

00:33:29.520 under the bus he keeps saying it right the americans are no longer can't be trusted they're

00:33:34.500 not our allies and now he's going to form this new world order and he's going to europe to do it

00:33:39.820 and um okay i want to i you know what it's all about the callers i want to take the callers the

00:33:46.500 callers are more important so go ahead uh did we lose the caller john or somebody's on the line

00:33:50.220 go ahead if you're on the line hey marty it's uh sean from red here yeah just uh calling in about

00:33:57.320 your question about leaders quite an interesting topic I think you brought up but I think like

00:34:04.940 Canadians for the last 10 years have some for some reason become obsessed with leadership

00:34:10.480 and we have to remember that the West and specifically North America was built on

00:34:17.100 individual liberty and freedom therefore not to say that leaders are not important but

00:34:23.760 I think in the last 10 years, in politics, there's just been a growing obsession with who's your leader and who do you follow.

00:34:32.160 And at the end of the day, it really doesn't matter if we live in a society built on individual liberty and freedom.

00:34:41.800 Excellent comment.

00:34:42.920 So fair to say then you're in the keep it as a grassroots movement as long as possible or not necessarily?

00:34:50.100 well like absolutely that's what that's what built this nation in the first place was you know

00:34:57.840 um what can you do for yourself and what can you do for the country not necessarily

00:35:04.380 what can you do for someone who you're following and at the end of the day too like if you

00:35:09.900 if you view yourself as a as not a leader of yourself then you're following somebody

00:35:15.720 and you know

00:35:18.440 like communists are big on

00:35:20.520 following people

00:35:21.680 yeah

00:35:24.160 I think we're in the same camp

00:35:27.220 on that one

00:35:28.220 yeah

00:35:31.020 I don't know

00:35:32.980 I'm 35

00:35:34.160 I've watched politics basically my whole life

00:35:37.940 and

00:35:39.020 it's like just in the last 10 years

00:35:41.240 where this leader, leader, leader thing

00:35:42.980 has just gone out of proportion

00:35:45.020 i think excellent yeah yeah no um well and and then the okay let me flip it this way then let

00:35:52.480 me just uh put you on the spot if we needed a leader who who would that leader be like that's

00:35:58.940 another interesting way of thinking about it right do you have a play devil's advocate who

00:36:03.160 would be a good leader for the independence movement at this point well i mean it's i don't

00:36:10.140 i don't know i don't know right like that's kind of something that can be determined at a later

00:36:15.580 date but yeah especially right now i think it's the other thing too as soon as you put a leader

00:36:21.180 onto it the enemy knows who to go after right so i don't think it's a smart move at all yeah yeah

00:36:26.780 appreciate that okay thanks for the call have a great day in red deer um yeah yeah cheers um yeah

00:36:34.060 uh, uh, cult of leadership, cult of following cult of personalities. I, I, I'm in the same boat.

00:36:41.340 I, I, uh, it, and, and I experienced that online all the time. Right. I've been, um, like when I

00:36:48.380 was, when I was critical of, uh, let's say Justin Trudeau, everybody loved me. But then the moment

00:36:54.040 I started criticizing, uh, Poilier a little bit, all of a sudden everybody's like, whoa, whoa,

00:36:58.820 what are you doing and then i and i was reminding people like i'm not criticizing the person uh

00:37:06.100 based on their political colors or stripes or the uniform they're wearing i'm criticizing them based

00:37:11.860 on the policies that they're implementing and that also applies closer to home i mean i was 0.64

00:37:17.540 very very critical of danielle smith especially in the early part of her uh mandate like back in 2023

00:37:25.460 2024 those first few budgets she put out there were were doozies and uh and i thought that

00:37:31.860 you know i didn't like that and and so um i just like to remind people of that i'm not going to

00:37:38.660 give it goes both ways in fact if i see somebody with the wrong stripes supposedly who does

00:37:45.140 something good so i'll come back to mark carney's an example so i was in the process of criticizing

00:37:49.940 mark carney but i could actually give mark carney a bit of credit so uh so let's stay on that

00:37:55.700 thought so he wasn't he was in europe last week and and i don't like what he's been doing i like

00:38:00.980 i'm at the point where i really really am starting to get scared because this this this uh it was

00:38:06.500 cute at first to use donald trump as a as a villain and to say you know hey i'll i'm the best

00:38:13.620 guy to defend against donald trump and and of course donald made some funny comments at first

00:38:17.780 I wish he had never joked about the 51st state and taken us over economically and stuff like that.

00:38:23.860 I wish he had never done that.

00:38:25.500 He did it.

00:38:26.120 It gave Carney some ammunition.

00:38:27.780 Carney positioned himself as the better person to deal with Donald.

00:38:31.320 But then he took it too far.

00:38:32.840 And I think he took it personally, right?

00:38:34.500 So it's one thing to banter back and forth.

00:38:38.280 But it's a whole other thing when Carney says, we can't trust the Americans anymore.

00:38:42.920 They turned on us.

00:38:43.860 this partnership is unrepairable and so forth and so forth by the way which is a contradiction from

00:38:49.540 what the king said our own king came here last week and and and toured the white house and and

00:38:57.220 and the king said the opposite of what carney said the king reminded everyone that the relationship

00:39:03.220 between england and the commonwealth and the americans goes back 200 years and it's an important

00:39:09.300 partnership they they they protected each other in the war they they supported each other they

00:39:14.660 they're allies they speak the same language they have so much in common their trade partners

00:39:19.460 and to just throw that all away the king is being pragmatic at this point and diplomatic whereas

00:39:24.660 mark carney i think is playing this a little too far by saying the relationship's broken we need

00:39:30.740 to diversify what he goes as far as saying we're going to be the biggest economy in the g7 seriously

00:39:36.420 the americans are 13 times bigger than us and now carney's going to the china one one week and

00:39:42.700 making deals there and and you know you all heard that speech like the new world order said slowly

00:39:48.640 in an evil tone um i i don't like that and then what happened this week is a continuation of that

00:39:56.060 to go to europe which i think europe is a continent that has a whole mess of problems

00:40:01.900 right it's ugly what's going on in europe and do i want us to join the eu he can try and make that

00:40:08.540 sound as positive as he wants but i think if we join the eu which i think is a real possibility

00:40:14.780 at this point if we were to join the eu and everybody's passport like people go oh that's

00:40:19.660 great we can travel back and forth and better deals for for commerce which way do you think

00:40:24.700 the floodgates of immigration would open if we join the eu do you think it's canadians that would

00:40:30.540 rush to go work in uh in spain and portugal and france or do you think it'd be a rush of

00:40:36.300 of people suddenly using their brand new eu passport to come to north america like i i don't

00:40:43.580 like that at all and that just continually scares me and it is a story that was got almost no air

00:40:50.620 time this week and uh well i did get air time it got positive air time and and i think it's uh it's

00:40:57.100 a scary story now that said uh i did say that i would if carney did something positive that i would

00:41:04.700 and you know i just finished saying it the news this week that um air what was the airline uh

00:41:13.420 air asia air asia i don't know who air asia is john can you find their logo like are they uh

00:41:19.340 are they a regional i don't know who they are are they a startup like west jet but a company called

00:41:23.580 air asia just bought 150 airbus a220 so the a220 i had to look it up because i fly a lot so i'm

00:41:32.300 familiar with the a320 the a330 and the a340 you know those are similar to the 737 and the 757 and

00:41:42.380 so to me i thought the a220 was similar to the uh boeing 737 but it's it's it's actually a

00:41:49.260 nice smaller plane with canadian roots like it's a proper can it's uh it was developed by bombardier

00:41:56.700 and then i guess in partnership or maybe bought out that's something i have i didn't have the

00:42:01.180 chance to look it up did bombardier sort of sell out to airbus or did it just join forces with

00:42:06.380 airbus but anyways the a220 is a former bombardier plane and um they're going to build the area air

00:42:15.500 asia took an order for 150 of them and they'll be built in montreal it's 4 600 um jobs i i think

00:42:25.020 i think those are that is definitely an industry that canada should be you know excelling at i i

00:42:31.660 i always find it a little bit sad that we didn't have a bigger aero nautical not aerospace not the

00:42:37.100 jet ports or the rocket ports in uh nova scotia that's a that's a joke we don't need that but we

00:42:43.900 have a long history here you know in world war ii we were building uh we had avro and we were

00:42:49.020 building uh the um uh the avro mosquito and the lancaster bombers and the liberators under license

00:42:57.340 and then during the korean war like when the jets first appeared the the the f-86 saber had a

00:43:03.660 canadian variant the f-104 the voodoo i mean we had a long nice tradition of building planes

00:43:09.260 and then that sort of came to an abrupt end with the avro arrow in uh during the cold war and

00:43:14.620 seriously i think the problem with the avro arrow is that it was so technologically advanced that

00:43:18.620 the americans forced us to scrap it for god knows what backdoor deal and then we never quite

00:43:25.260 recovered after that we had bombardier got into a few jets but it's a shame that we don't have

00:43:30.220 a bigger aerospace in this aeronautical industry it is you know it's a it's in a it's a tradition

00:43:36.060 that we have just like i always find it a shame that we don't have a shipbuilding industry anymore

00:43:41.420 but these are like you know if we're going to diversify our economy and get back to um competing

00:43:47.740 those are things that i think we can compete again but just back to what i said so kudos for uh

00:43:53.740 for carney and the teams and and whoever and helping to secure that deal uh no matter what

00:43:59.660 selling 150 planes at the car like it's a 16 billion dollar deal i think that's fantastic

00:44:06.540 and i'm happy for that uh but on the flip side then i'll give uh now i'll go right back to being

00:44:12.780 critical of carney which is um you know some of the other announcements this week we learned that

00:44:18.460 the honda plant that everybody was bragging about out east that trudeau was all happy about you

00:44:23.260 know we're going down net zero and we're going to build batteries right canada's contribution to

00:44:29.180 electric vehicles is not cars themselves but batteries the batteries that go in cars and uh

00:44:35.500 and the big honda plant at first was sort of put on hold it's a shame that only companies that will

00:44:42.060 come and invest here if there's subsidies so we gave them huge subsidies and at the end of the

00:44:45.740 day this week honda announced that that whole plant is kaput so uh so carny you win one but you lose

00:44:52.460 a lot uh go ahead caller where are you calling from hi it's uh melissa from diamond valley

00:44:59.820 hey melissa diamond valley is that the new name yeah that's the new name right what was it that's

00:45:05.740 that's the new name of turner valley and black diamond right on how are things down there what's

00:45:10.620 going on what's on your mind um i was just uh wondering like you know it's it would be nice to

00:45:20.780 to know kind of like what our new constitution would be you know um one of the things that

00:45:28.300 really got me excited was listening to that one lawyer from toronto talking about you know what

00:45:33.780 what our new constitution would be like and um i think more people would probably want to know

00:45:40.980 more about that yeah um you're referring i think to um bruce party from uh he's a lawyer and an

00:45:52.100 academic from queens is that the man you're referring to um i'm not really sure okay it

00:45:59.240 doesn't matter so let me i there's there's a several ways i can answer this but let before i

00:46:06.360 And before I give you my thoughts, what's your thoughts?

00:46:08.560 What would you like to see?

00:46:12.400 Well, I would like to see more power to the people.

00:46:17.980 I think some of the things that United States has done is good,

00:46:22.160 that we could kind of go off of, but not everything.

00:46:26.040 Maybe just some things, but more power to the people.

00:46:29.140 um you know where senators and politicians have a term limit you know where we can remove people

00:46:42.140 easier you know just yeah people having more power okay well you and i are on the same same

00:46:48.480 page then i actually love the american constitution so okay so so what bruce says

00:46:54.060 the the truly pragmatic answer to what you asked is we don't know right like the independence at

00:47:00.540 this point is a leap of faith and we vote to separate and then the day after the vote when

00:47:06.600 we're successful then we get to work and we have a some people bruce proposes like a constitutional

00:47:12.760 conference where people from across alberta like hundreds of people would come together for weeks

00:47:19.000 on end and and hash out a new constitution all sorts of things like that so that's the really

00:47:25.000 pragmatic answer is that we can talk about it in advance but anything we talk about at this point

00:47:30.600 is just ideas and suggestions and how we'd like to see it so what what we're going to have to do in

00:47:36.680 the coming months is have the debate but there's no definitive answer right because because we don't

00:47:41.400 know that's the problem but i'm with you it me in my way of thinking i hope that we turn into i hope

00:47:48.120 that we abandon the whole westminster system that we don't just simply become a mini version of

00:47:53.000 canada yeah exactly yeah and and and then i agree i mean the american constitution to me is so

00:47:59.560 brilliant you just take it take their amendments take a few out that you don't like and add a few

00:48:04.440 and then yeah i i mean i love i love the first three words of the american constitution we the

00:48:10.760 people like absolutely yeah yeah is there some part of the american constitution that you might

00:48:17.640 not be in favor of like however how hate to put you on the spot but how's your thoughts on say uh

00:48:23.080 gun rights or right to self-defense things like that um i i like the united states uh pretty like

00:48:34.440 i'm in favor for most of it but i think you know if if we are going to hash it out that maybe

00:48:39.880 um the constitutional lawyers or someone can because i don't fully know the whole thing but

00:48:46.520 But the point I was trying to get at was, I mean, I was kind of on the fence.

00:48:51.840 But then when I started hearing about all this Constitution stuff and listening to these constitutional lawyers debating it, it kind of got me excited.

00:49:00.260 And it's kind of nice to dream about it.

00:49:03.060 And I think there's no harm in, you know, trying to think of what it would be like.

00:49:13.000 That's the thank you for that.

00:49:14.740 that that that is the message of bruce party i don't know if bruce has been on the show uh john

00:49:20.020 i mean he'd be a good guest to bring back but bruce says dare dream big that's what he says

00:49:25.140 right take that leap of faith um because because you know you and i can you and i can come up with

00:49:31.860 a lot of reasons why we should leave and then and then i could come up with reasons in the future

00:49:37.060 but in the future let's just make it big right and um so okay cool um so i take it you signed

00:49:43.540 the petition and you're on board then i i did but i i was one of the scared people i can tell you

00:49:50.340 that good i was scared yeah yeah well i did and um and so anyways thanks all right thanks for

00:49:58.820 having me on thanks for calling have a great day melissa um bye bye bye bye yeah so yeah

00:50:06.020 there to dream big i mean i yeah i've said it before i i think something similar to the american

00:50:11.540 constitution uh and the american constitution is a republic right it's a in republic versus

00:50:19.220 uh it's democratic but it's slightly different than a democracy it's it's a democratic process

00:50:25.780 but it's not a democracy it's a republic and the republic is really for the people

00:50:31.860 the the the sort of basic concept of the american uh constitution is that government is just a

00:50:38.420 necessary evil you full-on anarchy everybody does their own thing doesn't work so the american

00:50:45.620 constitution recognizes that there needs to be a core government to um adjudicate between parties

00:50:53.540 set some basic ground rules some so that we can trade with each other protect the borders do a

00:50:59.540 few things like that but the government of the u.s the constitution of the u.s has a lot of things

00:51:05.300 in place to make sure that at the end of the day, it's always the people that are in charge

00:51:09.400 and government can't be too big and can't tell the people what to do. And so I like that because a

00:51:15.220 pure democracy on the other end is kind of scary, right? A democracy is everybody gets one vote

00:51:21.440 and majority rules and majority rules can be scary, right? Because it implies that minorities 1.00

00:51:28.720 are are are excluded um and and it was a good segue into the other topic that i wanted to

00:51:35.580 talk about but let's go with the caller on the line go ahead please where are you calling from

00:51:38.780 name uh jeff from bc hey oh jeff where in bc uh about three and a half hours north of vancouver

00:51:48.620 okay yeah yeah go ahead that's nice nice sunny day um i'm moving to alberta and uh just a heads

00:51:57.280 up for anybody else who's coming from any other province, when you go to change your

00:52:01.160 driver's license over, your driver's license isn't good enough ID.

00:52:06.160 You need your passport or certificate also.

00:52:10.560 In what sense?

00:52:15.300 Proof citizenship, I guess.

00:52:16.720 That's the only thing I can think of.

00:52:18.580 So, yeah, let me explore that a little bit.

00:52:20.900 So you're in the process of doing something right now?

00:52:23.560 Like you've applied for an Alberta driver's license or not yet?

00:52:27.280 Yeah, well, no, I did. I'm a professional driver, so I went to change my class one, BC class one over, and I got my medical because I was supposed to, and then I went to the office to do it, and they said, nope, I needed the passport and person to get also, or either one of them.

00:52:43.440 Okay, news to me. I would have thought that just showing up and, oh, I guess you, okay, maybe they're tightening up the rules with all this stuff that's going on, right?

00:52:54.240 mean it basically sounds like you had to prove that you're a citizen like a canadian citizen

00:53:00.080 oh okay no or just knowing what citizenship you had you know whether it be you know here or

00:53:06.240 somewhere else oh but you know what okay okay thanks i think i know what that is right uh in

00:53:11.440 alberta they're doing a pilot thing maybe you didn't have to do this maybe i'm wrong but i

00:53:16.000 know that they're piloting something in alberta they announced it uh late last year they want to

00:53:20.960 add the word canadian to our license so they're they're you know because right now if you show a

00:53:27.440 driver's license in alberta i don't i can't speak for other provinces it doesn't prove that you're

00:53:32.000 a canadian citizen it just proves that you live here um so maybe that's why you were asked that

00:53:38.320 maybe it's part of the pilot project they're they're asking it might have been voluntary

00:53:42.400 and you misunderstood i don't know it's just a thought i know it wasn't voluntary i know that

00:53:48.560 for sure because i i did say you know you know i did say why and they said they just said no sorry

00:53:53.200 this is uh this is the rules okay i don't i don't mind it that's good you know let's let's know who's

00:53:58.800 uh who's here yeah yeah cool interesting do you okay i mean i don't want to get intrusive but

00:54:03.920 apparently okay so what was supposed to happen then is our driver's license then would have

00:54:07.920 something on it that shows you're a citizen i don't know what they were thinking of doing for

00:54:12.080 that like uh okay so the pro so maybe it is what's happening then are there uh as people renew hey

00:54:18.640 anybody else got the same experience let us know i mean my my driver's license is up for renewal

00:54:23.200 in july so i'll see if they ask me for my passport interesting how's everything else how's uh uh

00:54:29.840 that's something i want to i've said it online i want to start following what's going on in

00:54:34.720 your neck of the woods is it true that the conservatives are really gaining the lead

00:54:38.480 over there and eb's days are numbered yeah i'm probably hearing the same stuff you are you know

00:54:45.060 just the same numbers on there i watch alternative news so it's mostly uh yeah they're they have no

00:54:51.280 leader in their game or their past them so that's good yeah excellent okay well thanks for calling

00:54:56.400 uh it was jeff right thanks for calling yeah cool thanks cheers um listen uh because i have just a

00:55:05.260 bit of time left i wanted to you know we were talking about um a republic in canada and and

00:55:11.220 again this week we get this weird reminder that we are a constitutional monarchy i talked about

00:55:17.020 the king visiting uh the u.s well now here in canada we get the big fat reminder that we are

00:55:22.960 a constitutional monarchy and our sovereign lives over that way or wherever it lives in the uk

00:55:29.680 and how that we get reminded of that this week we get a new governor general so a governor general

00:55:35.080 is the king's representative in canada it's an unelected position some people say it's an

00:55:41.720 honorary position if it's honorary why does it exist but um and and there was so the new governor

00:55:49.500 general is somebody named uh let me uh i wrote it down somewhere um louise arbour there you go

00:55:58.620 and so a couple of things she's like 79 years old okay the career career civil servant like

00:56:08.800 worked in courts in canada courts in ontario courts in quebec uh even worked on the international

00:56:14.840 court in uh in the hague or whatever and prosecuting like war crimes and stuff like that

00:56:21.520 and um and just gets elected she'll take uh her seat the uh somewhere around uh late july i think

00:56:29.600 july 25th i think um she's the fourth uh female quebecer in the last six positions right i mean

00:56:42.060 i'm trying to go before her was um uh the current uh mary simmons the current governor general is

00:56:49.680 officially from quebec she's a first nation from quebec the one before that was julie paillette

00:56:55.360 julie paillette famous for being an astronaut but then julie paillette had to resign in disgrace i

00:57:01.680 can't remember the whole story i mean she was divorced she had been in an abusive relationship

00:57:06.480 she was the abuser i think in the relationship with her husband anyways i mean a governor general

00:57:12.240 like the king's representative uh had to quit you know vetted by the apparently there's a whole

00:57:18.240 committee that that like it's not just a king who appoints somebody right we're past that nowadays

00:57:23.280 it's more complicated they they they get vetted i that's one thing i like about the u.s systems

00:57:29.280 right when they vet like a supreme court judge or somebody like that like it's a committee meeting

00:57:34.000 and it's open to the public and we can all see somebody presenting their credentials and the

00:57:38.560 back and forth i mean i i don't remember seeing anything about louise arbor being vetted in the

00:57:43.600 the last couple of days all of a sudden it's like boom we got a new governor general um so okay so

00:57:49.120 she's from quebec before that was mary simons julie payette and before that uh i think there

00:57:55.280 was david johnson who i if i don't i think was also from quebec in ontario and then before that

00:58:01.040 was michael jean who is a former journalist who was also from quebec and then um so like that's

00:58:08.880 a little bit um that's breaking with tradition for females from quebec in the last you know 15 years

00:58:18.000 traditionally um governor generals sort of go back and forth like you got you got somebody from

00:58:23.520 eastern canada somebody from western canada eastern canada western canada and we were i

00:58:27.760 thought we were long overdue for uh an albertan or british colombian or somebody from saskatchewan

00:58:33.600 We haven't had an Alberta governor general since, I'm going to say Ray Nutition. I think Ray Nutition was the last Alberta governor general. But anyways, just a reminder that we are a constitutional monarchy and this person gets appointed and we'll see.

00:58:55.420 I mean, to me, Louise Albor looks a little more qualified than some of the other people.

00:59:01.560 But to be determined, I've already seen online, she's got quite a bit of baggage.

00:59:06.240 I said this online, right?

00:59:08.200 To me, in Ottawa, blackmail is sort of a currency, right?

00:59:13.380 Everybody knows dirty little secrets on each other. 1.00

00:59:15.660 And I have a feeling this lady knows a lot of little dirty secrets on a lot of people. 1.00

00:59:19.200 And so, you know, Carney appointed her maybe to have her close as an ally in the near future. 0.99

00:59:25.420 uh there was also quite a bit of controversy around mary simon and the fact that she didn't

00:59:29.700 speak french remember the uh the the president of air canada got fired for not speaking french

00:59:35.360 and everybody was quick to point out that you know the highest position in our land the governor

00:59:40.180 general in this country doesn't speak french so now i i think maybe uh carney fixed that problem

00:59:45.560 by um by by doing this anyways all all super interesting um well i think

00:59:53.940 i think i'm out of time i'm i'm looking at the other stories here but we'll save a

00:59:59.700 save a couple of stories for next week all right folks uh thanks hey reminder again

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01:00:17.220 be here next thursday i'm toying with the idea of going of getting guests i got to get on board with

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Western Standard - May 07, 2026

The pros and cons to a leaderless grassroots movement

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