Western Standard - June 26, 2026


The state of “cooperative federalism” @Martyupnorth


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00:00:00.000 Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.
00:00:27.880 my name is josh andrus i'm the director of operations of the western standard i'm filling
00:00:32.300 in today for marty on our one of our signature shows marty up north uh this afternoon is fact
00:00:38.360 packed folks we will try and get through the full program and also the phone lines are open it's
00:00:43.420 toll free uh john if you could just pop the number up at the bottom there uh yeah give us a call at
00:00:48.020 866-479-9738 that's 4669 sorry 866-479 west extension 711 so
00:00:57.600 today we have a pretty full program. We will look into the disturbing 104-page anti-capitalist
00:01:04.660 misogynistic manifesto left behind by the University of Lethbridge student tied to the
00:01:09.320 tragic Montreal shooting. As UofL alumnus, I'll have a conversation about the Marxist-Leninist
00:01:14.840 groupthink dominating our lecture halls and why it's time to pull taxpayer funding. Meanwhile,
00:01:20.220 Minister Searle Turton and UCP insiders are pushing a passive Stay in Canada PR campaign.
00:01:26.140 I'll explain why they are completely missing the point.
00:01:29.260 Our fight isn't just about bad policy from Ottawa.
00:01:32.520 It's about a rigged constitutional structure.
00:01:35.240 Also, with the critical MOU deadline looming, we will expose the double standard of Canadian federalism.
00:01:42.400 Quebec walks away with a $10 billion infrastructure deal,
00:01:45.560 while Alberta gets stuck with aggressive climate conditions in what Mark Carney today called a, quote-unquote, possible pipeline.
00:01:52.580 Meanwhile, in Calgary, grassroots candidate Mike Derry pulls off a stunning upset over establishment favorite Dan McClain in the UCP nomination.
00:02:02.000 We'll look at the shockwaves this sends to party insiders who think they have the base under control.
00:02:07.860 Also, the UCP rolls out a $100 rebate while backing away from promised gas tax relief.
00:02:13.520 We'll pull back the curtain on Danny dollars and look at how high oil prices are papering over a massive spring deficit as Alberta creeps towards an expanded welfare state.
00:02:23.200 We will also explore the decision just 48 hours before the kickoff of Calgary's biggest country festival abruptly being cancelled due to quote-unquote city-driven bureaucratic barriers.
00:02:34.700 We'll look at both sides of this one.
00:02:36.820 Finally, we will take a look at how the carny curse struck Canada's national soccer team
00:02:41.160 immediately following his passionate locker room speech.
00:02:45.180 Let's begin in Lethbridge.
00:02:47.180 Seth Hatfield, a 25-year-old University of Lethbridge philosophy honours student, has
00:02:52.160 been confirmed as the suspect in the recent Montreal shooting outside the ILO headquarters,
00:02:56.840 the parent company of Pornhub.
00:02:58.560 We've seen the 104-page academic-style manifesto left behind, complete with citations and sources,
00:03:05.480 featuring a deep-awaited,
00:03:06.320 featuring deep violent grievances against a contemporary capitalist society, institutions,
00:03:11.860 and elite power structures. He uses standard Marxist-Leninist framing to intellectualize
00:03:17.220 his rage towards women in a sick, twisted fashion. Now, to their credit, the university has published
00:03:24.420 a statement condemning the ideologies expressed in the document and the use of violence. That is
00:03:30.140 commendable. However, once again, the university administration is dealing with a communications
00:03:35.220 crisis where its faculty and what they teach is being called into question i sat in those halls
00:03:41.140 as a student there were days that i felt as if the institution itself were trying to get rid of me
00:03:47.460 i would hazard a guess to say that the vast majority of faculty at the university of
00:03:51.380 lethbridge leans last left and that amongst that vast majority a smaller yet still substantial
00:03:57.460 majority actively prescribed to an anti-capitalist marxist leninist worldview that is how i felt at
00:04:03.940 at least, when I see that a University of Lethbridge
00:04:07.040 Honor student in philosophy goes on an anti-capitalist murder
00:04:10.240 rampage at the headquarters of a pornography company,
00:04:12.940 I guess you could say that I'm not particularly shocked.
00:04:16.240 Conservatism on that campus, and perhaps across the province,
00:04:19.340 is dying.
00:04:20.440 Those who believe in concepts like limited government,
00:04:23.340 or innovation through entrepreneurship,
00:04:25.640 or even basic evidence-based academic research,
00:04:28.740 as we saw through the high-profile arrest of academic
00:04:31.180 Francis Widdowson need not apply. When an honors student months after receiving such high accolades
00:04:38.260 is tied to a violent politically motivated incident across the country it should force us
00:04:43.400 to examine closer what is really happening inside those echo chambers. I'd really like to know what
00:04:48.860 the professors are teaching those students. I can guess. Who is there to challenge these radical
00:04:54.420 violent pseudo-revolutionaries before they descend into violent madness? When I was there
00:05:00.140 I often stood up alone in a sea of students, all staring at me as if I was some kind of a
00:05:05.200 villain. I would get private messages of support after the fact, but rarely was I not standing
00:05:10.840 alone. Other campus conservatives towed the line and stayed silent, fair, afraid that making their
00:05:17.060 voices heard could lead to punitive measures, such as poor grades or worse, expulsion. If the
00:05:23.940 University of Lethbridge is refusing to protect basic free steep beach and instead focuses on
00:05:29.180 building a safe bubble hostile to the society outside of it it's a problem and i've said it
00:05:36.040 once and i will say it again minister of advanced education miles mcdougall should take a serious
00:05:41.260 serious look at cutting the university of lethbridge's funding this is out of control
00:05:45.940 it's a problem throughout government i i think one of the frustrations that a lot of people feel
00:05:52.880 is that the government seems soft on a lot of issues that they're not as as firm when they need
00:06:00.220 to be um do we have any calls not yet okay moving on to uh minister of children and family services
00:06:09.120 of alberta searl turton and if we can get that uh uh statement up on the screen here i kind of want
00:06:16.680 to go through it a little bit just to take a look if you scroll down here um so the minute this
00:06:21.740 minister of the crown recently issued a public stance regarding alberta's place in confederation
00:06:26.860 another very defensive passive stay in canada narrative let me read the section that stood out
00:06:32.540 for me i recognize that many albertans are frustrated with federal policies and decisions
00:06:38.060 that have impacted our province that is an understatement these policies have certainly
00:06:44.300 impacted our province for a decade we were subject to attack after attack on our economy
00:06:49.500 from a federal government hell-bent on shutting down our fundamental industries it's an issue
00:06:54.860 that we've experienced generationally going back to the national energy program even the fact that
00:06:59.660 we had to fight for natural resource control from the time we became a province in 1905 until it was
00:07:04.620 finally granted in 1930. Albertans aren't just frustrated with simple policies of carbon tax
00:07:12.140 it's it's they're frustrated with structural issues such as a lack of representation in Ottawa
00:07:17.900 and a broken fiscal framework. The federal government overtaxes us and then dribbles that
00:07:22.460 money back, about 30% less than we send, with conditions. The Provincial Priorities Act,
00:07:28.460 designed to look at every federal agreement through that lens, was supposed to deal with
00:07:32.460 this issue. That law appears not to be worth the paper it was written on. We've seen a deliberate
00:07:38.940 shift in government policy. If Searle's message was a one-off statement, I wouldn't be concerned.
00:07:45.500 What concerns me is that this seems to be a position parroted by a large portion of Smith's
00:07:50.460 cabinet. This position is increasingly dismissive of grassroots frustration. And if this is the
00:07:56.620 position of the government, it goes against the very platform that Smith rose to UCP leader on.
00:08:01.980 These issues are structural and constitutional. Let's take a look at Smith's remarks at the
00:08:06.940 Western Standard debate in 2022 on equalization. Is I ready to go? Yeah, here we go.
00:08:14.940 Eventually we need to open the Constitution, it's quite clear.
00:08:28.060 One of the things we have to do on equalization, though, is that we have to be aggressive on
00:08:32.540 this.
00:08:33.540 It's not a matter of tinkering with the formula.
00:08:35.500 Quebec should never be receiving equalization transfers from small provinces like Saskatchewan.
00:08:41.040 How that ever happened is beyond me.
00:08:43.240 And so we need to put forward a position paper that would put forward ideas for how we would
00:08:47.860 eliminate equalization in alignment with what Albertans have told us.
00:08:51.900 Number one, Quebec's hydroelectric power has to be marked up to market.
00:08:56.000 That would eliminate the lion's share of the amount going to Quebec.
00:08:59.660 We also have to adjust for cost of living in the different parts of the country because
00:09:04.740 it doesn't cost as much to deliver services.
00:09:07.300 And we also have to make sure that it doesn't grow with the growth in the economy.
00:09:10.940 going to see a decrease in the disparity between provinces we shouldn't be increasing equalization
00:09:16.540 that would eliminate the lion's share of equalization and make sure that alberta is treated
00:09:21.900 fairly okay good right that makes sense now can you put uh cyril's statement back up
00:09:31.900 you see the difference here like this downplays the deep alienation felt by everyday albertans
00:09:38.700 and tries to soothe the public with standard political talking points.
00:09:43.020 And in the meantime, in doing so, we lose leverage fast.
00:09:47.560 And we're seeing that now in the Memorandum of Understanding,
00:09:52.740 an agreement between the Alberta and federal governments.
00:09:57.440 It does absolutely nothing to address the core structural deficiencies
00:10:02.040 of our fiscal arrangement with Ottawa.
00:10:04.740 We have been dealing with this for generations.
00:10:07.460 As I said before, you can look back at almost any day in the history of this province, any newspaper article, and you will see at the very top, front page of the paper, there's an issue that the provincial government has with the federal government.
00:10:21.320 This even happened when Harper was the prime minister.
00:10:23.780 Like, this isn't something that you can paper over with an MOU that doesn't deal with equalization.
00:10:30.740 Smith said there was a position paper coming forward.
00:10:33.960 I haven't seen any government policy on this since 2022.
00:10:37.460 this is it's infuriating every time she talks about the change in position in ottawa it it
00:10:47.280 makes me angry i'd like to see this government put to forward some legitimate solutions to the
00:10:53.680 structural issues not just talk about them but actually solve them where's the position paper
00:10:58.160 on equalization why isn't equalization a part of this mou i mean we're taking a five we're maybe
00:11:05.160 5% of what we want that this MOU is getting for potentially a pipeline. Let's look at how
00:11:11.840 cooperative, quote unquote, cooperative federalism actually works when you're Quebec
00:11:16.260 versus when you're Alberta. Recently, Quebec secured basically an unticketed $10 billion
00:11:21.740 infrastructure deal with, I didn't see any federal lecturing, like there were, I didn't see any
00:11:26.420 conditions. Meanwhile, Alberta's version includes stringent climate conditions, carbon mandates,
00:11:32.440 And literally, as Carney said today, a possible pipeline.
00:11:38.940 Possible.
00:11:39.860 Like, this is what they do.
00:11:41.920 They use these agreements to manage and constrain us, not to give us equity.
00:11:46.080 This isn't an opportunity for us to really even get to the point where we have full sovereignty in Confederation.
00:11:53.460 And I have seen a lot of talk from this government about sovereignty.
00:11:57.420 But I am willing to bet that as long as this MOU is in place, the Sovereignty Act won't be used.
00:12:01.500 that this government can't stand up to mark carney because they have signed their sovereignty away
00:12:08.360 i mean this is an asymmetric relationship where we pay the bills and get crumbs in return
00:12:13.580 and you're seeing you know signs of this frustration throughout the united conservative
00:12:20.940 party uh we saw it last night grassroots candidate mike dairy defeats longtime establishment figure
00:12:26.620 and Councillor Dan McLean in the Calgary Shaw nomination race.
00:12:30.000 First off, full credit to Mike Derry and his campaign team.
00:12:33.400 Defeating an entrenched municipal name like Dan McLean
00:12:36.100 in a major Calgary riding inner city, nonetheless,
00:12:38.940 is an incredible, relatively inner city, like it's not deep, so.
00:12:42.360 But it is an incredible organizing feat.
00:12:44.960 And what it does is it sends a shockwave straight to the UCP establishment.
00:12:50.420 Party insiders and senior strategists have been acting like everything is under control
00:12:55.080 and that the base is content.
00:12:56.620 Derry's victory proves the exact opposite. The party mood is far more rebellious, far more frustrated and far more untamed than the brass wants to admit.
00:13:06.500 This nomination shows that UCP members are not interested in career politicians or establishment gatekeepers.
00:13:12.020 Now, I don't want to be too critical of Dan. I think he ran a good campaign. I know Dan. I like Dan. I think he's a good guy.
00:13:18.340 but i think it's more what he represents people want fighters who will hold the line on provincial
00:13:25.240 autonomy and fiscal conservative and to the insiders that are watching the base does
00:13:31.780 essentially put you on notice and it goes back to again it's this soft approach uh let's talk
00:13:40.100 about for example i want to get into the government's recent announcement of a 100
00:13:44.700 rebate alongside their retreat from the promised gas tax relief that's another area where there's
00:13:50.280 it's almost like they get to the point where it's like we can push we can drive and then they just
00:13:56.820 say actually you know what no we we're not going to do that and the 100 rebate what uh columnists
00:14:03.240 are rightly calling danny dollars while backing away from the gas tax release it relief is a pure
00:14:10.820 example of that it's classic political misdirection and it goes back to the spring budget this
00:14:16.500 government is running a massive spring deficit that is only being hidden because oil prices
00:14:22.260 are temporarily keeping them afloat it's a deeply concerning trend for a supposedly
00:14:28.580 fiscally conservative government instead of limiting spending and structural overhead we're
00:14:34.020 We're seeing a steady creep towards expanding the social welfare state, giving taxpayers a substantial $100 check while maintaining structural taxes and failing to rein in provincial operating spending is a band-aid solution.
00:14:50.040 They're stuffing their pockets while we pay the tax that they were supposed to cut.
00:14:55.620 But again, it goes back to an unsustainable fiscal strategy within the Alberta legislature.
00:15:01.340 it leaves us highly vulnerable the moment oil prices dip and so i think this just this just
00:15:09.040 kind of sums up my frustrations it it's it's one of those things that i'd like to see a stronger
00:15:17.280 approach it was one of the reasons i went out to edmonton in the first place i'm back here now and
00:15:21.780 quite happy by the way um but it's we we need more we need something stronger because
00:15:30.340 i think the thing that people are struggling with the most is they're losing faith they're losing
00:15:36.740 faith that there are changes that there are solutions to the problems and so they're looking
00:15:43.320 at independence as the answer to that i don't have a monologue about this i'm just gonna kind
00:15:49.380 of talk through it but i want to talk a little bit about keith wilson and let alberta decide
00:15:55.900 It's a pretty strong group.
00:15:59.140 I mean, Keith Wilson, I've known Keith for a long time.
00:16:01.640 I think he's a fantastic public speaker.
00:16:03.520 I think he's very rational.
00:16:05.540 And he's been on this independence thing since I was at Project Confederation.
00:16:09.520 So it's good to see him get out there.
00:16:12.640 There's a certain degree of professionalism that the Let Alberta Decide campaign has brought forward.
00:16:19.040 It's added a little bit of credibility.
00:16:20.780 um so that may that's i think where people are going to start looking if the alberta government
00:16:29.080 can't you know really show more aggressiveness in defending what the base wants i mean i think
00:16:36.080 the frustrating part uh is that a lot of the staff in the alberta legislature kind of view the
00:16:43.160 grassroots as a an annoyance that needs to be controlled it's not something that they can
00:16:51.880 you know there's a relative disdain and and a thought that the average member of the united
00:16:58.800 conservative party is some crazy redneck and i think that needs to be paper i think that needs
00:17:03.340 to be fixed i think it needs to be changed and and i'd like to yeah i just with keith wilson
00:17:09.760 out there now i think that i think that there's a shift uh and and maybe the middle ground like
00:17:19.200 we'll see what happens with the referendum i've i'd like to see a win i think uh but
00:17:28.080 even with keith and tanya clemens who's again great like that 50 clear majority i think is
00:17:36.160 it's a stretch goal. It's possible. It's doable. I mean, the leading Federalist voices, Thomas
00:17:42.780 Lukasik, Jason Kenney, Travis Taves, they all seem to have this patriotic view of a country that is
00:17:51.880 increasingly not working for Albertans. It's not working for anybody. And the provincial
00:17:59.840 government in backing away from sovereignty and in signing the mou has effectively handcuffed
00:18:06.380 itself to mark carney there's nothing they can do i mean if they stand up or they use the sovereignty
00:18:12.480 act i mean deals off right mou's off so there's a lot going on um with that i'm going to go to
00:18:21.780 the comments here you want to start throwing some comments up there john and i'll start responding
00:18:26.980 to them but i would like to call in so please join the conversation 866-479-9378 extension 711
00:18:33.600 uh we are taking questions from the audience on really anything um why would this minister
00:18:39.420 continue to support staying in canada when we have tried years and years to get a fair deal
00:18:43.580 and nothing has ever happened in fact the double that the feds have doubled down on bad policies
00:18:48.480 for alberta yeah i mean i think that's the crux of it i think that really summarizes the feeling
00:18:54.360 that a lot of people have there's it's it's almost a they're they're not even addressing
00:18:59.820 the structural challenges i haven't seen any comments out of ottawa on equalization i haven't
00:19:04.060 seen i don't even think jason nixon's used the words since he became finance minister
00:19:07.540 someone's probably gonna fact check me on that but we have real structural problems here that
00:19:15.180 these ministers they seem to downplay they seem to think that equalization is just a
00:19:19.960 you know it's a price of being canadian it's the cost of your passport you know what i mean like
00:19:23.860 it's this the maple leaf is more important than the 30 percent of your federal taxes that don't
00:19:31.180 come back the billions that flow into quebec including this 10 billion dollar deal which
00:19:36.980 i'm sure will have fundamental uh issues regarding the fiscal transfer system we'd have to look into
00:19:44.840 that deeper once we get the numbers but it's it's structural like and that's where the the push
00:19:51.520 towards independence comes from that's really because these politicians they're not talking
00:19:56.000 about fixing the problem anymore or they say we'll fix the problem with no solutions so
00:20:01.440 yeah i think that's really one of the biggest issues that the government has and and i i don't
00:20:07.520 i think it's structural i think it is very much within the government itself and and unless there's
00:20:13.380 an attitude change in edmonton i think cabinet is going to continue to push the government in this
00:20:19.080 direction, which means that we're walking, if this referendum turns out to be a loss, whether
00:20:24.940 it's 48%, 38%, 21% is irrelevant. We don't have, we'll lose leverage. Like we don't have leverage
00:20:33.820 in this negotiation with Carney and Carney's very clearly pushing it. Like we aren't talking
00:20:39.740 about a serious pipeline. We're talking about a potential pipeline that the provincial government
00:20:45.600 appears to be having trouble finding even a proponent for i mean we'll see what happens i
00:20:49.300 think the deadline uh for the or they they said they're going to be submitting something on july
00:20:53.700 1st i'll wait and see how that looks but again we're getting a single pipeline like this isn't a
00:20:59.540 subs this isn't a decrease in equalization this isn't a change in
00:21:05.280 governance this is a government that is backing away from fixing the problem losing leverage in
00:21:12.580 the process and signing our our sovereignty away to a federal government that is not taking our
00:21:17.740 issues seriously like why does it take nine years to build a pipeline especially considering we have
00:21:24.220 been dealing with this issue since before i was even in politics like our pipeline bottleneck
00:21:30.880 has been an issue for decades not to mention all the previous policies coming out of ottawa
00:21:37.300 these need to be changed so yeah it is a deep frustration and that brings us to independence
00:21:46.840 now i'm not going to i mean i'd like like i said i'd like to see a win in this referendum i think
00:21:55.160 from even from the fair deal standpoint like you need leverage so if you're in the middle
00:21:59.680 you need to win if you're if you're on the independent side you need to win like it's
00:22:04.500 This is one where there should be a clear coalition of voters that you can get.
00:22:11.660 And again, the government's not addressing the structural issues.
00:22:17.180 They're signing up.
00:22:18.560 Actually, there was an article, Fraser Institute.
00:22:21.920 I sent that to you, John.
00:22:22.720 Can you pop that up on the screen there?
00:22:29.900 Current government already clawing back MOU promises made to Alberta.
00:22:34.180 can you scroll down a bit again kenneth p green excellent uh he's a senior fellow at the fraser
00:22:39.700 institute we have a sit yeah so you have two governments that are like as he says here second
00:22:45.860 paragraph the two governments were starkly opposed on one hand alberta has long await wanted to oh
00:22:53.380 sorry zoom in on one hand alberta has long wanted to expand production and development of its oil
00:23:00.820 sands and grain export pipeline capacity to the west coast with lucrative markets in weight in
00:23:06.100 waiting in asia on the other hand the carny government inherited and assumed prior commitments
00:23:10.980 to make canada a net zero greenhouse gas emitter by 2050 along with other commitments to environmental
00:23:17.060 protection and aboriginal reconciliation all issues critical to any hope of future
00:23:23.300 alberta to pacific pipeline development that's a lot of conditions
00:23:26.820 this is an essential industry i mean energy is the industry that powers every other industry
00:23:35.080 without affordable energy innovation is stifled i mean you really think that microsoft would
00:23:40.800 have been able to advance technology if its electricity prices were three times as high
00:23:47.180 no that would be a severely prohibitive uh venture to enter to continue
00:23:55.440 and again this is uh i will get i'm not going to agree 100 with where he goes with this but
00:24:03.960 the mou in theory set the grand bargain in broad strokes alberta would bend the knee
00:24:09.980 to ottawa's net zero agenda impose steeper upstream industrial carbon taxes in lieu of
00:24:15.700 at carbon texas and i do see we have a caller just hold for a second and take a huge commitment
00:24:20.580 uh to a carbon and capture storage program which by the way uh has been criticized by synovus
00:24:26.580 uh ceo john mc is it john mckenzie i think uh as being prohibitive to investment like this is why
00:24:33.220 you can't find a proponent anyways uh let's go to the phone here um i'll finish my thought hi
00:24:39.700 Hi.
00:24:42.240 Hi.
00:24:44.140 How's it going?
00:24:45.040 You're on the air.
00:24:47.980 Oh, okay.
00:24:49.680 I hope that the other talk in the background is not heard.
00:24:57.520 So my message is basically that defiance to tyranny is obedience to God.
00:25:04.840 Okay?
00:25:05.120 God frequently used specific, often unlikely, individuals to challenge systems of oppression.
00:25:14.580 You know, for example, he used a woman, Deborah, to lead Israel against Jabin and Cicera.
00:25:24.520 In more recent history, we have figures like Martin Luther King Jr.,
00:25:29.560 who is widely viewed today as a transformative American hero,
00:25:35.860 a champion of racial equality, and a moral icon of nonviolent resistance.
00:25:41.740 And he's revered for his I Have a Dream speech.
00:25:46.580 Mahatma Gandhi led India to independence from British rule in 1947
00:25:54.380 by employing non-violence, a philosophy of non-violent resistance
00:26:00.340 and civil disobedience rather than armed conflict.
00:26:04.780 And he freed his people.
00:26:07.620 Yeah, and I can comment on that.
00:26:09.560 I think that the voices in this movement that advocate for non-violence,
00:26:15.300 obviously, like, no, I don't think you're going to win this referendum
00:26:19.220 by calling for armed conflict.
00:26:20.600 And I say that directly to certain independence leaders.
00:26:25.480 But I think the key here is that each of those examples are individuals that use logic, common sense and peaceful rhetoric in their communications.
00:26:35.280 They pointed out issues. They were calm about it.
00:26:39.240 and and i i think like i i hate tying this into uh the aboriginal stuff but
00:26:47.080 i think it's hard for the indigenous leadership to criticize the existing status quo i think that
00:26:52.520 there are significant issues with for example the indian act i think the indian act is probably the
00:26:57.400 most racist piece of legislation on currently on the books it's got the name indian act in it and
00:27:02.520 it it's an it's an issue where the federal government is clearly not meeting the standards
00:27:07.400 like just standard living standards i mean clean drinking water and so on and so forth and and i
00:27:11.800 think like from that community there needs to be that type of rhetoric as well i mean they're
00:27:18.840 talking about civil disobedience but it's got to be about improving their living standards and i
00:27:27.080 think these the the treaties that we have i i don't think they're fair it i don't i personally
00:27:32.920 don't think that there should be segregation period i think uh and i think that the current
00:27:37.800 system that we have so i'd like to see that kind of a rhetoric from them to uh to make the case
00:27:44.200 for why they deserve better treatment within canada i mean if they're going to sit there and defend
00:27:48.760 the existing system i think it's going to be difficult for them to to really make a lot of
00:27:53.480 progress even if they're using the courts and we know how the courts they they make up a very small
00:28:01.400 uh part of the entire um population of canada we need to concentrate on the majority of canada
00:28:10.440 wanting independence and wanting away from government tyranny which they will not change
00:28:17.160 so what alberta is doing you know is what we should follow we should follow in their in their
00:28:24.440 lead the rest of canada as well the the most uh uh our constitution is completely uh you know uh
00:28:36.280 it it puts all of canada in this uh uh you know what could i call it in in slavery you know to
00:28:45.400 our government because everything in our constitution serves them so we this is the
00:28:51.480 reason why alberta wants independence and wants to write their own constitution okay so all of
00:28:57.000 canada all of us we most most canadians do not even have not even read the constitution that is
00:29:04.200 true our constitution our lawyer you know one of the lawyers that i need to mention is sean buckley
00:29:12.520 and he has exposed our constitution completely in an interview with nadine
00:29:19.240 You know, go on the YouTube and find that interview, Sean Buckley, about our Constitution.
00:29:34.060 And once we get to know that, you know, everything that he has said about our Constitution, all of Canada, Canadians, all of them will want independence.
00:29:45.700 Perfect. Thank you. I appreciate your time.
00:29:48.660 thank you so much yeah um but no she's like the constitution 100 is probably the biggest issue
00:29:56.780 that we have and and i i think the part that frustrates me the most like i ran an organization
00:30:02.840 called project confederation from 2019 to 2025 and the entire crux of the organization was focused
00:30:12.660 on providing solutions to fixing confederation and and when i would provide those solutions to
00:30:19.860 government officials or otherwise i was often told that they were impossible that fixing canada
00:30:26.620 was impossible and now those same figures are leading voices to remain in canada and they're
00:30:34.440 the same voices that aren't providing solutions and i'll tell you why they aren't providing
00:30:37.980 solutions because the solutions that they provide are the same ones that they told everybody were
00:30:42.120 impossible while they were in power jason kenny who by the way is not i don't think he's been
00:30:47.680 talking about equalization for the last two years he was the one that put that referendum on the
00:30:52.700 table that 62 percent of albertans voted in favor of like and he's probably the the most highest
00:30:59.400 profile voice i go on twitter and i read the commentary from individuals associated with these
00:31:05.260 campaigns vote to stay uh lead not leave all the slogans that all these fancy political
00:31:13.140 lobby groups have thought of and i have to laugh i have to laugh because it is just so hypocritical
00:31:22.680 it is so hypocritical for these guys to criticize organizations like when i was at project
00:31:27.940 confederation for having solutions that were impossible that are now completely avoiding
00:31:33.040 talking about those topics because they don't have the answers because the answers they were provided
00:31:37.760 they told me they were wrong anyways we got a call on the line
00:31:43.040 how how are you uh you're on the air what's your name
00:31:47.520 how are you doing today good how are you well okay yeah no i'm i'm listening to all all your
00:31:55.520 argument to make. My name's Mark, by the way, and it's, you know, we talk about all this
00:32:03.120 pipeline stuff, and to me, that almost seems like smoke and mirrors. It's taking away that
00:32:09.440 from the fact that, well, if Alberta doesn't get pipelined, then, you know, that's the argument.
00:32:17.500 I think we can build a lot of pipelines. What's going to supply these pipelines?
00:32:21.340 Correct me if I'm wrong
00:32:24.560 But did I not hear Danielle Smith
00:32:26.260 Or somebody say we can go from 4 million barrels
00:32:29.060 A day to 8 million barrels a day
00:32:30.660 I think that was what she said
00:32:31.700 Well you're right
00:32:34.480 Because we're bottlenecked
00:32:35.860 We can't send it anywhere
00:32:37.500 You can produce all you want and you can build all the tanks you want
00:32:40.360 But at the end of the day
00:32:42.060 It's got to go somewhere
00:32:43.220 And this is what I think the frustration
00:32:45.360 And I'm seeing in the chat
00:32:46.840 Like the MOU
00:32:47.560 Like, this is a deal for a single pipeline that comes at the cost of a carbon tax, all these conditions.
00:32:53.860 And Smith has been on the record as saying, like, every time you enter an agreement with the federal government, it comes with conditions.
00:33:00.380 And now she's signed this thing for, again, one pipeline, not a overall change in federal policy, a single solitary pipeline that is causing massive chaos within Carney's.
00:33:14.500 well they're only good for votes according to him but his caucus and they're acting like this
00:33:21.620 is the solution to all of these problems it's not okay it's not i agree with you it's not the
00:33:26.900 solution we can't double our protect our production because we can't get it to market
00:33:30.620 and then the other thing i was at uh i was at the debate with uh between uh keith wilson and
00:33:36.600 jason kenny and one thing kenny said that i i legitimately laughed out loud at uh is he used
00:33:42.860 the argument is as a reason to stay that the federal government bought us a pipeline like he
00:33:47.400 actually said that if you remember uh that was the reason they bought the pipeline is because they
00:33:53.320 had basically created a regulatory environment that forced the proponent of the pipeline to pull
00:33:59.280 out and then they had to come in and rescue it kenny was openly critical of it now he's using
00:34:03.980 it as an excuse to go or his excuse to stay sorry like yeah i i share your frustration i 100 do
00:34:13.000 Do you have anything to add?
00:34:14.300 Well, I guess what else I'm trying to get across is the upstream producers,
00:34:21.840 small upstream producers, how are they going to drill?
00:34:26.020 How are they going to do anything?
00:34:27.480 They have no access to funds now, so they can't go out and borrow money.
00:34:33.840 So for them to invest in doing this ambiguous project, they're just stalled.
00:34:41.160 It doesn't matter what the price of oil is.
00:34:45.080 They can't get it to Mark.
00:34:47.360 They don't have access, and they can't borrow money on it
00:34:50.940 because the banks, controlled by the government,
00:34:54.180 already know that, yeah, you're not going to go anywhere.
00:34:57.740 Yeah, sorry.
00:34:58.500 No, I, you can...
00:35:00.320 So I was actually, I just wanted to kind of bounce off of that
00:35:04.840 because that is a very good point.
00:35:06.040 That is exactly what John McKenzie,
00:35:09.320 who the ceo of synovus is he and and i'm going to quote him here uh over the past decade canada
00:35:17.080 has continued to add incremental regulatory burdens at the cost to the industry um he also
00:35:25.000 goes on to say actually i don't have his exact marks here but he he claims even the lowered
00:35:30.600 emission reduction standards in this mou handicapped the large producers and it also you're
00:35:36.040 100 right about the investment climate like if if private industry isn't comfortable enough to
00:35:41.480 to fund these programs themselves and in order to get a pipeline you need massive government
00:35:46.680 subsidies that that is not an environment that is conducive to private investment that means that
00:35:52.600 the entire like the system is built on government policies that suffocate investment and then force
00:36:00.760 us to then pay tax extra taxes to get these things built like it is a absolutely atrocious policy
00:36:08.280 and yeah like i said every time smith start or anybody in that government starts talking about
00:36:13.880 how great the mou is and how it signals that there's a shift in ottawa yeah the shift is like
00:36:19.080 two feet you know like you you're miles apart here and yeah i don't see that like i i think
00:36:27.000 think that's the frustrating part for me is like i i want to believe like i'm not ever gonna say
00:36:32.900 that i think dan well i will see i i don't know how things are gonna go but as of right now i
00:36:37.600 don't think smith like i don't agree with the the push to remove her from office but this thing's
00:36:43.700 gotta go you can't be stumping all summer in the middle of an independence campaign on an mou that
00:36:50.520 literally the prime minister is backing away from on a daily basis days before a potential proposal
00:36:58.920 hits the table so yeah i uh well if it does we'll see but i it's just there's a lot going on up
00:37:06.940 there and i and again i want to go back to to turtin's statement and how yeah i just it you're
00:37:15.220 addressing the actual structural issues here like these aren't one or two
00:37:19.840 policies yeah it'll be it's great that you know we're moving in the right
00:37:24.520 structural issue it is a province like Quebec how about that issue okay that
00:37:32.440 that's what's causing a lot of this so so let's stop playing games and let's say
00:37:37.420 oh Quebec's gonna be our partner in separation that they want separation no
00:37:42.100 they are not on our side
00:37:44.520 Albertans wake up worrying
00:37:46.760 about this, Quebecers don't
00:37:48.640 they wake up, they don't give a crap about
00:37:50.800 Alberta, okay
00:37:51.920 that is who we are
00:37:54.680 dealing with
00:37:55.540 and that's the attitude in eastern Canada
00:37:57.860 yeah, that is the attitude in eastern Canada
00:38:00.600 and I think
00:38:01.940 the frustrating part too
00:38:04.600 and I'll go back to the
00:38:06.600 vote to stay, like Jen Gerson
00:38:08.440 she's in with Lead Not Leave
00:38:10.400 which is Travis Tay's group
00:38:11.520 like some of her comments like and i don't have them in front of me it's just dismissive
00:38:17.260 arrogant like if you aren't happy with the status quo gtfo kind of attitude and that
00:38:26.060 is what infuriates people that is like i mean i'm not a guy that you know i mean i've had an
00:38:31.680 organization dedicated trying to fix the problems and i've got globe and mail columnists or wherever
00:38:37.100 she is now just absolutely it's it's the vitriol in the commentary that's what aggravates me
00:38:45.300 that's what's pushing me further like just yeah address the issues you you run a federalist
00:38:51.620 organization and yet you talk in laurentian talking points down like down to the people
00:38:57.120 that voted to well oust the previous premier but it's again that's the attitude and that's
00:39:05.840 the frustrating part is how
00:39:07.400 deliberately
00:39:08.700 pointedly these
00:39:11.140 leaders of the federalist
00:39:13.820 movement are absolutely just
00:39:15.660 I can't swear on the air but I think
00:39:17.860 you know where I'm going
00:39:18.540 yeah
00:39:20.800 thanks for your time
00:39:22.800 I could go on
00:39:24.380 angry Jen Gerson
00:39:26.400 that's what I call her
00:39:27.960 yeah and then Ken Bozenkuhl
00:39:30.960 is another one
00:39:31.600 I've never met Ken but you know
00:39:34.440 as a firewall signatory i expected better and that brings us again like we've got all these
00:39:40.300 like monty solberg and jason kenney they're both you know reform party mps that went to ottawa and
00:39:45.940 then merged the two parties together like it it's if these guys are coming if these guys are the
00:39:51.380 leading voices of staying in the country and they don't have any solutions like how far have they
00:39:55.180 abandoned the whole reason they got into quote unquote the whole reason they got into politics
00:39:59.000 in the first place unless the whole reason they got into politics in the first place was to shut
00:40:02.760 down the reform party which they did successfully and that did lead to stephen harper for nine and
00:40:08.060 a half years which was great because we didn't get shot for nine and a half years but as soon
00:40:12.840 as he was gone the structural issues became the crack in confederation that the liberals drove
00:40:19.660 policy after policy after policy into and you can't fix the problem if all you're doing is
00:40:26.480 cleaning the you know the the uh the infection out of the actual like fracture you know the
00:40:35.920 fracture is still there the structural issue still exists and i think that's the part that
00:40:40.320 these guys are just missing they're just missing it that's all i got
00:40:44.300 yeah sorry i'll just say one more thing before i go here and and thank you for all your time
00:40:50.600 is uh you know i would just say to all the you know the pro canada forever cat i mean carney just
00:40:55.740 handed us a gift here in that yeah guess what we got 2500 new airbnbs out in vancouver phone your
00:41:04.880 mp say you want to book them because you're paying for them oh that's the only thing i would say
00:41:10.640 yeah i agree so thanks for the call mark uh we appreciate it we should open up the phone lines
00:41:14.900 uh but yeah excellent call thank you um yeah and i i want to get into uh jason nixon for a second
00:41:22.900 here uh and even um yeah sorry uh john's messaging me um i want to get into the 400 billion dollar
00:41:33.940 price tag on independence because i've got so i've got some issues with the way that they presented
00:41:40.020 it uh one of the biggest line items in that 400 billion dollars is apparently we are on the hook
00:41:49.300 for our share which is 10 and a half percent of the federal debt and they're using this as a reason
00:41:55.380 not to leave which i don't know i don't know about you that seems a little bit suspect to me i mean
00:42:01.500 i don't want to why are we on the hook for a government that can't stop spending the federal
00:42:09.440 government is spending out of control we've got massive record level deficits we've got inflation
00:42:14.340 that's picking up again we've got a sagging economy i mean they're making the argument that
00:42:19.040 we're not in a recession, but the 0.7% growth rate isn't exactly something to jump up and down
00:42:23.980 about. You got inflation that's extending or that's ahead of GDP growth, which creates problems
00:42:31.580 with your purchasing power. Like it is absolutely that one that I heard that I heard that one. And
00:42:40.760 I was just, I got mad about that. Like we, you can't cite that as a reason to stay when they're
00:42:45.960 still spending billions on billions of dollars and that's coming from vote to stay that's coming from
00:42:51.160 the premier's office that is just like shut up sorry blink up elbows down um okay you want to
00:43:00.120 pop some uh oh we got a call online here we go we got another one hello there uh you're on the air
00:43:08.040 What's your name?
00:43:10.560 My name is Slavica.
00:43:12.180 Oh, you just called in earlier.
00:43:14.260 Sorry.
00:43:15.220 I'll give you, like, two seconds.
00:43:17.340 That's right, but...
00:43:19.220 Okay.
00:43:21.100 Go ahead.
00:43:23.920 Okay.
00:43:24.820 So, what I would like to...
00:43:26.920 The message that I would like to give all Canadians
00:43:29.280 is that we also need an independence campaign.
00:43:33.440 So, we need to gather people, you know, from all over the place,
00:43:37.580 even on zoom meetings and invite people to zoom meetings and invite people to share their thoughts
00:43:44.060 and their feelings because this is what they need is we need to get them involved in this movement
00:43:50.340 as well okay because you know without people yeah without people and you would be a perfect person
00:43:57.860 you know to organize this get people on zoom and then get them to go in their neighborhood i
00:44:04.320 appreciate that um unfortunately my job here at the western standards uh is pretty like i mean i
00:44:09.760 have to no offense to derek feldbrand but he has a lot to manage so um anyways uh yeah i appreciate
00:44:15.840 the call i appreciate the support and i hope that other leadership uh people are watching you know
00:44:22.320 cory morgan's out there he's with the western center he's doing a lot of stuff um there's there's
00:44:27.200 a lot of great organizations and great leaders out there that are talking about that so again
00:44:31.440 thank you for calling slavica um can we okay excellent um there was one thing i saw it in
00:44:38.800 the comments i'm trying to find it again it popped out oh yeah mouser not yeah i want to
00:44:48.240 go back to the mou and again this is the message for the legislature rip it up like this is not
00:44:54.880 something i nobody's buying it it's and it's as a conservative and i shouldn't be coloring myself
00:45:05.520 that way it's incredibly frustrating to watch a provincial government cozy up to mark carney and
00:45:11.260 completely leave a federal conservative party out to lunch uh again and yeah there's mou is a
00:45:18.580 nothing burger smith is throwing alberta under the bus for nothing like yeah i hate that thing
00:45:24.640 i think cut it get rid of it i don't want it anymore um jason who a little fart in the wind
00:45:31.440 did i say that out loud um carbon is essential for life duh yep what else have we got here
00:45:46.160 hmm can i just throw some comments up i'm having trouble scrolling through
00:45:54.640 i should just keep talking lead not leave what does that one say
00:45:58.160 come on albert oh here we go miss mistletoad 715 says lead not leave
00:46:07.360 equals come on alberta we're sitting on top of the trash heap called canada that's pretty good
00:46:11.940 right right that's a great point because and and actually that brings me i can talk about the
00:46:18.200 calgary chamber of commerce a little bit calgary chamber of commerce is telling us that uh if we
00:46:23.480 hold this independence referendum the economy is going to fall off a cliff now i've heard this
00:46:27.420 from them before so like i'm one of those guys when i see the calgary chamber of commerce making
00:46:31.920 an economic prediction i kind of throw it out you know like it's yeah these guys are wrong because
00:46:36.340 they said that about the sovereignty act and again we've been leading the country in economic
00:46:41.340 development for a very long time and not by a small amount like leaps and bounds ahead of the
00:46:47.140 rest of the country while the federal government racks up debt taking our tax dollars dribbling
00:46:54.780 them back to us with conditions we don't get there's this is not a fair agreement deborah
00:47:01.940 yedlin she was i i had a lot of respect for her when she was a calgary herald uh writer but
00:47:08.060 as an economic forecaster this woman doesn't know what she's talking about so
00:47:13.860 maybe a little bit harsher than anybody else has said but again i challenge you uh if you're out
00:47:20.520 there to go find an economic prediction made by the calgary chamber of commerce and that's accurate
00:47:27.020 because so far they've been they're i don't even know that's all i have to say without swearing
00:47:35.220 um so actually you know what there is one topic i want to get at here we got about 13 minutes um
00:47:42.700 i don't think i got into the country thunder uh so country thunder is one of the most prominent
00:47:49.660 music festivals in canada and uh it was abruptly canceled yesterday two days before the kickoff
00:47:57.580 at calgary's uh uh it used to be called fort calgary we've rebranded it the confluence which
00:48:03.240 you know i don't like it fort calgary's fine uh which has led to a public dispute between the
00:48:10.640 organizers and the city the sudden cancellation just 48 hours before the kickoff is in some ways
00:48:18.300 a disaster for fans in the local economy that we'll get into a little bit more but the organizers
00:48:24.280 blame a mountain of city-driven barriers 9th avenue construction infrastructure loss new noise
00:48:30.540 limits that apparently have ruined the production value but i feel like we should you know to uh
00:48:36.500 Let's give Mayor Farkas a little bit of a break here.
00:48:40.720 Ticket sales, apparently, according to reports, haven't been great.
00:48:44.080 The weather is going to be terrible.
00:48:48.100 I don't want to go to this thing.
00:48:50.520 The headliner, Kane Brown, suffered an injury.
00:48:55.360 So he's out.
00:48:56.420 So that's your top ticket driver.
00:48:59.120 And yet none of these things are in your release.
00:49:02.100 None of these things are in your release.
00:49:03.960 to me that's a little bit disingenuous uh calgary's political leadership is claiming this
00:49:11.200 is a last minute business decision disguised as a regulatory dispute pointing out that they
00:49:15.840 actually adjusted the decibel levels from 65 to 70 but even then it's you know there's more to
00:49:24.240 this story and for i get the cowboys situation and i'm going to take both sides on this one i live
00:49:30.360 right by the national tent so you know like i'll be fine going to bed at midnight but i also was
00:49:37.700 prepared to stay up until 2 30 i mean i'd have to talk to derek about coming in a little bit later
00:49:41.960 sometimes but it's just you know it's it's to me it's a little bit disingenuous and it highlights
00:49:48.840 the immense friction of trying to get major cultural and entertainment events done in our
00:49:53.520 major cities right now uh finally um so i mean that's it's it is interesting and and the way
00:50:02.500 that the province and the municipality here that that that farkas and smith were fighting i'm not
00:50:09.940 sure if this is just about the noise i think this is a deeper frustration a deeper division between
00:50:17.840 the two sides i hope that uh farkas and smith can sit down and find a common ground here let's you
00:50:23.600 know let's let's talk about this as you know you hate seeing this type of thing especially from
00:50:30.000 well i mean farkas was a conservative um anyways um yeah also we have about 10 minutes left so
00:50:40.000 So let's talk about the World Cup a bit.
00:50:45.540 Canada, Canada, Canada.
00:50:48.340 So big win the other day.
00:50:51.880 I can't even remember who we played, but we beat him 6-1.
00:50:55.900 Jonathan David got a hat trick.
00:50:57.900 Big deal.
00:50:59.040 National pride.
00:51:02.580 Mark Carney shows up in the dressing room after the game.
00:51:05.660 Do you have a speech handy?
00:51:07.380 Can you get it quick?
00:51:09.460 No?
00:51:09.740 okay so like i'm sitting there i'm watching the the post game show and mark cardi sitting in the
00:51:18.240 dressing room giving his best mel uh who is the coach in uh uh miracle no herb brooks giving his
00:51:29.740 best herb brooks impression subsequently the canadian team loses two to one to switzerland
00:51:36.320 in their very next game um now different opponent different type of thing but the carny curse is
00:51:42.820 real the oilers devastated the every team that he seems to put his hat on for losers so that gives
00:51:54.440 me and and this is uh probably gonna get me in a bit of trouble but it gives me an incredible amount
00:51:59.660 of solace if carney has cursed every team he's ever changed i just hope he never puts a flames
00:52:06.440 jersey on that would be devastating okay do we have any uh comments
00:52:11.840 let me probably go back to the right screen here um
00:52:22.860 oh here's a good one why is uh mr thomas forever canadian forever carbon tax forever equalization
00:52:34.920 forever poor not debating keith wilson good question um personally i don't think mr lukasik
00:52:44.880 has a chance at coming across looking good in this one um look i we we set out a challenge
00:52:52.360 we had a conversation with uh his team and they eventually decided they weren't interested
00:52:58.040 i don't think you'll see him debate anybody i think that i mean it's about lawn signs and
00:53:04.520 media appearances he doesn't want to share the stage with anybody because if he shares the stage
00:53:08.200 with someone then he has to actually respond to the criticisms which he won't because he doesn't
00:53:12.920 know how um sorry thomas but uh yeah actually no i'm not sorry dude 400 billion is chump change
00:53:24.360 compared to the nine trillion dollars of resources that we have in the ground absolutely 400 billion
00:53:29.160 though again i don't know if that 150 billion in that in national debt to share like again i if
00:53:37.400 if you're including that in your calculation like that that 150 is going to be 200 and very quickly
00:53:44.360 at the rate we're going so yeah i don't think that if you're including that debt as an argument to
00:53:51.720 remain in the country is a good argument because if it continues to grow then why would we not
00:53:57.640 get out of it before it doubles you know what i mean like this isn't your basic credit card
00:54:03.400 interest rate or loan interest rate this is a government spending so frivolously that they
00:54:08.280 basically can't even track where all the money goes so uh that's a bit of an issue um what else
00:54:15.880 have we got there alberta beef says imagine things get worse what then and i think that is a genuine
00:54:21.860 fear uh i think that how do i put this it worries me i mean like i don't lose a lot of sleep but
00:54:32.100 let's say we go down this path where come october november we've completely lost
00:54:42.640 our leverage we have no pipeline we have a a loss in the referendum uh for the leave side
00:54:53.220 um which is again one of the big reasons why i think we need to see a w here but
00:54:59.560 it's what happens after this car it's the i mean we already we've already seen it we've already
00:55:06.860 seen it with the vitriol from the mainstream media we've seen globe and mail with wall-to-wall
00:55:11.580 anti-independence coverage cbc running attacks the toronto star predictably uh just smearing
00:55:18.300 mitch sylvester uh you know like that's the kind of vitriol that we're going to see from the east
00:55:24.200 in the next six months and and that will probably drive a lot of support to the independence
00:55:29.740 campaign and again the wording actually in in a way helps because we are having a conversation
00:55:36.400 about you know having a conversation really and and but to me this is about leverage to me this is
00:55:42.300 about how can we have as much leverage in this negotiation as possible and and and the approach
00:55:50.360 of the existing government the soft approach which again it's you see it at the university
00:55:54.380 of lethbridge you see it uh from minister turton you see it throughout this provincial government
00:55:59.700 and whether it's cabinet driving the bus or smith driving the bus it's starting to get to the point
00:56:04.900 where it's irrelevant they're they're all the same and if she has effectively destroyed every
00:56:11.220 leverage she gets and then kenny brings the hammer down backed by canadians across the country that
00:56:19.860 are viewing alberta as this traitorous redneck backwards living type of a place then you can bet
00:56:29.680 that he's going to have the public support to bring the hammer down which means no pipeline
00:56:32.860 maybe some kind of a national energy program 2.0 i don't know uh but you're right yeah what
00:56:38.560 happens if things do get worse and they very possibly could they very possibly could which
00:56:43.620 means that october is it's going to be one of the biggest days in alberta history i mean again
00:56:49.360 i mean this is you know again a culmination of decades and decades of failures by provincial
00:56:56.080 governments like you know the liberals in not entirely i mean there were a lot of scandals in
00:57:01.600 in the early days but when the united farmers of alberta came to power they were driven by
00:57:06.000 frustration with the federal government we didn't have control of our natural resources when the
00:57:09.520 social credit came to power um we we were we we did have control of our natural resources but the
00:57:17.040 federal banking system there was a lot of people that were frustrated with the federal government
00:57:20.400 and their financial state yeah you can go forward to w the national energy program in the 80s i mean
00:57:28.400 i'm skipping over a few years there but you know peter lochee and the you know we'll turn off the
00:57:34.640 taps and then you've got it's just it's every single government has gone through this at what
00:57:41.720 Point do we just say like
00:57:43.220 We can't fix it
00:57:44.720 Or maybe we'll see
00:57:47.700 Some solutions I don't I'm willing to bet though
00:57:49.740 In the next six months we won't but
00:57:51.160 It's the reaction to it
00:57:53.440 That concerns me it's the reaction to
00:57:55.700 It from the rest of the country
00:57:56.740 It's the why would you
00:57:59.580 Want to leave it's the
00:58:01.780 It's the and if
00:58:05.160 The hammer comes then what can we do
00:58:07.680 What what can Carney do I mean we
00:58:09.240 You can read his book if you want to get a
00:58:11.720 closer look at what he could do he could do that he could have a national energy program 2.0
00:58:18.360 pipeline west to east not just for oil but for cash there's a lot of things he could do he can
00:58:24.360 nationalize the energy industry he could bring in a windfall profits tax on oil and gas companies
00:58:29.640 there's a lot of things that that government over the last decade has flirted with but not done
00:58:36.200 and now they've kind of backed away from it no i wouldn't call it kind of i'd call it
00:58:40.280 like i said two feet when you need to move a mile right so yeah it's uh it could get worse
00:58:47.940 and that is what concerns me but i do have a lot of faith in my fellow albertans to
00:58:58.540 look at the facts to make the decisions to understand how the federal government is treating
00:59:04.360 this as if they need the leverage and i'm running out of time so i am going to uh i'm not going to
00:59:11.760 sign off right away i just want to do a quick plug for our western standard stampede barbecue
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00:59:42.080 are cheaper i'm like yeah let's do that so anyways uh you can get your water balloons to throw at our
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00:59:59.540 on getting as many sold to throw at derrick as possible because that just makes it so funny
01:00:03.540 and you know what to his credit he's been a good sport about it um actually a really good sport
01:00:07.600 uh he's you know he's not a bad guy so uh it should be a lot of fun uh no we won't have a
01:00:14.220 bouncy house but i appreciate the recommendation we probably needed a little bit more time to book
01:00:19.320 it there mike anyway so that is it for today marty up north my name is josh anderson covering for
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