Western Standard - This election could shatter Canada

00:00:00.000 Would you let Jeffrey Epstein watch your kids?

00:00:07.100 Didn't think so.

00:00:08.460 What about his accomplice, Guy Lane Maxwell?

00:00:13.060 Hard pass.

00:00:15.120 So why trust him?

00:00:18.660 Mark Carney, Maxwell's friend, not yours.

00:00:30.000 Good day.

00:00:59.080 welcome to the cory morrigan show coming live from the cold wintery windswept plains of alberta

00:01:06.840 on permanently ceded territory in calgary this is a live show be sure to tune in there guys

00:01:14.360 use that comment scroll check in uh share those things with me oh i see dieters in that should be

00:01:19.640 fun and uh yes rod broad they're checking in others use it send those questions the idea is

00:01:25.720 my way and uh you know i don't necessarily read them all out but i do see them all and just helps

00:01:30.760 remind me this shows live and that there are people on the other end of that camera i'm not

00:01:34.360 just talking to myself like i usually do when i'm driving i got a a good one today i'm afraid my

00:01:39.720 guest i was looking forward to having him on laureate carbineau who'd written a book called

00:01:43.240 at the trough which is a fantastic book on corporate welfare had to cancel last moment

00:01:49.240 that's okay we'll have sean poles are in he's got lots to talk about there's lots of news happening

00:01:53.160 and things to discuss and uh well we'll go on about other things so let me talk about uh

00:01:58.440 what's got me wound up today and it's canadian unity it's always a consideration in federal

00:02:03.480 elections i mean as a federation canada has independence movements both in quebec and in

00:02:08.120 the west support for those movements has had its ebbs and flows but they can't be dismissed

00:02:12.840 i mean in quebec the province came within one percent of a positive vote for separation in a

00:02:17.560 1995 referenda and alberta support for independence was high enough for gordon kessler to win a

00:02:22.920 legislative seat with an independence platform and that was back in response to trudeau's national

00:02:27.720 energy program in the 80s but again it shows it's real out here independent support in alberta

00:02:33.000 since has been on a slow boil but it's been increasing polls in 2023 indicated a quarter

00:02:37.640 of albertans supported full independence from canada those polls were dismissed as representing

00:02:42.600 a small minority of albertans look having one in four people wanting to have a province leave a

00:02:47.320 country is a rather large number of seriously dissatisfied people it's pretty fool-hearted

00:02:52.440 hardy to dismiss those numbers populist movements have erupted quickly from much smaller bases of

00:02:57.400 support than that the movement for independence in alberta could quickly turn from a smoldering

00:03:02.360 discontent into an outright prairie fire if the federal election turns into a regional slugfest

00:03:07.080 and we get a liberal win i mean albertans have never been comfortable with the relationship with

00:03:11.480 the federal liberals or ottawa governance in general i mean in the early 1900s western farmers

00:03:17.080 were hit with protectionist tariffs on farm implements modeled to prop up eastern manufacturing

00:03:22.280 industries. The rail monopoly forced farmers to pay the freight for the supplies coming into them

00:03:27.000 and then they had to pay the freight for the crops going out. And while agriculture was a growing

00:03:31.560 industry in the west, the producers were at a disadvantage when compared to American farmers

00:03:35.240 due to central Canadian policies. The famous milch cow cartoon, this is from 1915,

00:03:42.600 depicted western farmers feverishly working to feed a giant cow astride a map

00:03:47.080 its economy and develop this new resource but alas the eastern powers had no interest in western

00:04:07.240 oil if they could continue to ship it from foreign sources that all changed though when price shocks

00:04:13.000 for oil hit the world in the 1970s. Suddenly, Alberta's oil that nobody wanted became Canada's

00:04:18.880 oil, and Pierre Trudeau performed a vile act of regional ravishing with the national energy

00:04:23.020 program. Alberta's economy was decimated. You know, even Brian Mulroney, he didn't repeal the

00:04:27.400 program until the price of oil collapsed. Then Alberta was left drained, used, dejected, and yet

00:04:33.020 still we were chided for being ungrateful if we dared to question the value of this federation.

00:04:38.000 The Chrétien administration was a little better, and do no more love from Alberta, as Chrétien

00:04:42.120 candidly admitted he didn't care for dealing with Albertans while policies continued to drain the

00:04:46.520 West to feed the East. And we had of course now the Justin Trudeau government. Trudeau part two,

00:04:51.460 the most left-leaning anti-oil administration in the history of Canada. Westerners were reviled

00:04:56.640 while efforts to construct pipelines were shunted, new oil sands developments were cancelled,

00:05:00.960 and money was poured into eastern battery plants and yeah, cricket factories, which failed. But

00:05:07.120 Westerners were derided as selfish rednecks if they dared to complain about this fine woke 0.98

00:05:11.140 government. While regional ire has been growing for decades, it never hit the tipping point though 0.93

00:05:15.340 of becoming an effective independence movement. Poles showed independence support rising but still

00:05:20.320 it's never gotten quite near that 50% point and that's because most Albertans accepted there's

00:05:23.660 going to be a break in the cycle. I mean traditionally in Canada every 10 years or so

00:05:27.820 eastern Canada would offer the west a breather and let another party into government for a little

00:05:31.900 while. Even Laurentians realized they must flush the pipes now and then lest the corruption and

00:05:36.100 entitlement become too much within the house of commons. Westerners would grumble but they were

00:05:39.880 willing to wait until a reset occurred so they could get a new government. With the Trudeau

00:05:44.040 government managing to reach support levels as low as 17 percent, Westerners were breathing a

00:05:47.960 sigh of relief. I mean while Trudeau's reign was marked with corruption, ineptitude, scandals and

00:05:51.940 foreign interference, it was finally coming to an end. But alas, it's appearing nothing's going to

00:05:56.840 change. All the liberals had to do was change the face at the front of their corrupted party

00:06:00.320 and Eastern Canada fell back in love with them. The cabinet members are the same and the new

00:06:05.080 leader is just as ideologically opposed to Western industries as his predecessor. The new leader

00:06:09.300 stole aspects of the platform of the Conservatives and appears to be poised to win a majority

00:06:13.060 government from the East. The cycle now has broken and Westerners are going to be facing

00:06:18.040 a new reality, which is no matter how badly the Liberals may govern, Eastern Canada will

00:06:23.400 keep them in power. The hope for reprieve through a term or two of new government is evaporating.

00:06:28.360 The West could be facing yet another decade of abusive government dominated by Laurentian

00:06:32.080 elites. Hope for change within Canada for Westerners will be lost and they're going to 1.00

00:06:36.460 have some soul searching to do should westerners resign themselves to being perpetually ruled by

00:06:41.820 a distant government that only serves the east or is it time to break free of the federation that

00:06:45.480 serves westerners so poorly eastern voters might not realize it today but their self-serving voting

00:06:50.280 patterns could lead to the end of canada as they know it you know what maybe that's not such a bad

00:06:55.560 thing maybe it's time change is always good well that's what's got me started today dave how's it

00:07:00.480 going happy liberation day yes liberation day liberation from what you're a bit of a debbie

00:07:06.440 downer on the selection aren't you well how about this there's gonna be double digit weather this 1.00

00:07:11.280 weekend i'm looking forward to working my bees and enjoying myself but the election sucks balls 0.98

00:07:15.160 and i have i have confidence that carney has peaked and uh paulia will still win okay well 0.97

00:07:21.640 and you know i i put that out on x the other day i put it out my prediction from back at the start

00:07:25.940 of this a week and some ago, I predict a liberal

00:07:28.060 minority.

00:07:28.880 Yeah, we saw that.

00:07:30.900 Others feel otherwise.

00:07:32.620 A week into it and some, I still feel the same

00:07:34.660 right now, but I mean, it doesn't mean that's

00:07:35.820 what I want to see.

00:07:36.560 That's just what I think is going to happen.

00:07:38.380 But we still have three weeks of campaigning left.

00:07:40.380 That's true.

00:07:41.000 Hey, are you going to keep that Indigenous 1.00

00:07:42.320 opening every show?

00:07:44.400 I don't know if I remember to or not.

00:07:46.040 You know, as you know, I mean, aside from that

00:07:47.240 monologue, I don't really script anything.

00:07:49.880 That is true.

00:07:50.620 So yeah, we have maybe perhaps big news coming

00:07:53.760 out of Washington.

00:07:54.560 And there are reports from Politico, a respected site, that Elon Musk is going to be leaving his role as, you know, in DOGE, Department of Government and Efficiency.

00:08:07.120 He's been a lightning rod, obviously, and it's led to, you know, car fires all over the place and protests and around the world.

00:08:16.120 So we're keeping an eye on that.

00:08:18.220 Our Sean Polzer, like I said, Politico is pretty respected.

00:08:21.880 So I wouldn't be surprised if it's true.

00:08:26.480 Well, I mean, the orange man doesn't tend to maintain long-term relations.

00:08:29.680 No, and it's lasted longer than I think everybody else thought it would.

00:08:35.100 Speaking of Pierre Polyev, he had a press thing in Toronto today where he vowed he would get rid of DEI in all universities, which I think is a winning platform, but might lose the university vote.

00:08:50.480 I don't think he had it.

00:08:51.880 Our Jen Hodgson has got a good thing up there now, it's called Promises, Promises, and it's a list of every single province, every single promise that each leader has made in various categories like education, health care, energy, that sort of stuff.

00:09:10.020 So that'll be updated every day during the campaign.

00:09:13.760 So if you're looking for what your party is standing on what, it's there for you.

00:09:18.280 It's really detailed, and she's done a very good job on that.

00:09:22.980 A story that's breaking the website this morning is titled Pipeline Paradox by Sean.

00:09:29.960 I know he's going to come in here and talk to you about it, so I don't want to, you know, waste your time when you're going to be talking to him.

00:09:37.160 But it's all about Mark Carney and his former company that he was the chair of trying to buy a $10 billion pipeline through the states.

00:09:47.460 Meanwhile, he vowed yesterday not to cancel Bill C-69, the anti-pipeline law in Canada.

00:09:54.800 So weird, eh?

00:09:57.320 And the Leach verdict, Tamara Leach, the longest mischief trial in Canadian history.

00:10:03.880 Verdict coming down tomorrow morning in Ottawa,

00:10:06.860 and Jen will be all over that Thursday morning. 1.00

00:10:10.940 And that's it, Corey.

00:10:12.100 We're all waiting in anticipation of the big orange man

00:10:14.740 at 2 o'clock Mountain Standard Time.

00:10:17.440 Right on, yeah.

00:10:18.400 Well, it's something to watch, right?

00:10:19.560 I mean, that's the maddening thing of this.

00:10:22.300 I mean, okay, so people see,

00:10:23.180 she's never made bones about tariffs, blah, blah, blah.

00:10:25.000 Okay, fine.

00:10:26.500 But it's in one day, it's out the next.

00:10:27.640 It's in one day, it's out the next. 0.99

00:10:28.680 I mean, just settle on something, you crazy cheeto. 0.96

00:10:30.720 I mean, you know, businesses have to try and plan. 0.94

00:10:32.920 And they can plan if they know that this lunacy has got to stop.

00:10:37.220 You've got Mark Carney huddled in the bunker in Ottawa.

00:10:40.420 He's not campaigning.

00:10:41.760 He's not talking to Canadian people.

00:10:43.680 He's, you know, I assume he'll have something to say this afternoon after the tariffs.

00:10:47.440 But you're right.

00:10:47.960 Let's get it over with.

00:10:48.800 Let's figure out what's happening and let's get back to the best life that we can and get this election campaign going again.

00:10:57.140 And that's what I'm saying.

00:10:57.760 I think Carney's peaked.

00:10:59.040 Now the tariffs will be set.

00:11:02.920 I think people will now start focusing on the issues themselves.

00:11:06.120 We'll see.

00:11:06.720 We'll certainly be covering it closely to watch the trends,

00:11:09.060 and maybe I'll eat some words on election night when we do our special coverage.

00:11:12.560 Let's hope to God you do.

00:11:13.920 Yeah, well, it won't be the first time.

00:11:15.480 No.

00:11:16.660 All right.

00:11:17.300 Well, thanks, Dave.

00:11:18.120 You bet.

00:11:18.380 I'll let you back to the newsroom there.

00:11:20.080 That is our news editor, Dave Naylor.

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00:12:01.020 know humorous ones from Dieter saying uh supporting idea of uh improving higher education in alberta

00:12:07.180 by building taller schools all right that's fine uh that's for vicky bayford i believe she's running

00:12:13.500 for the ppc uh saying the wave is starting you know we haven't well i know they're trying you

00:12:18.220 know the the people's party is out there they're pushing and uh you know looking at this federal

00:12:23.260 election this has turned canada into a basically a two-party system now uh maxime bernier's

00:12:31.020 People's Party was never quite really threatening to win seats and spots, but it represented and

00:12:36.160 still does a constituency. I still think it's important to have all those candidates out there

00:12:41.180 getting different perspectives out using the platform as a means to either you're building

00:12:45.440 a party in the long term, or at least addressing some issues that the other larger parties won't.

00:12:51.280 But the more interesting thing than them, you know, the PPC folks are putting out their thing

00:12:55.000 is uh the NDP you know that that's a lot of what's been going on in this election they have

00:13:03.680 collapsed I mean they are down to a fraction of where they are and in a first past the post

00:13:09.980 system unless they've got a few good really good concentrated writings they could be obliterated

00:13:15.600 in this election unimaginable and that vote is going to the liberals I mean people who were

00:13:21.420 you know inclined to support social democrats if they were changing their votes look they weren't

00:13:27.160 going to make the leap and jump over to the conservatives that's just not the way it's going

00:13:30.860 to happen and they're not going to make a comeback jagmeet's is lackluster and uninspiring as he's

00:13:36.380 ever been so that's not going to be going there but something else and it's not a it's not a

00:13:42.060 conspiracy it's not anybody doing anything wrong it's just a fluke of circumstances in a lot of

00:13:47.020 ways. But as Dave mentioned, you know, Carney's taking another day off to deal with the stuff

00:13:51.940 coming from south of the border. And he should. Whether we like it or not, the way our system

00:13:57.880 works, he is the Prime Minister right now, and he has to address these issues as the Prime Minister.

00:14:05.300 It's a caretaker government, but this is pressing. But it works brilliantly for the Liberal campaign

00:14:10.620 anyways, because he can look prime ministerial. He can basically practice the role whilst the

00:14:17.520 campaign is going on. And it also helps him avoid those tough questions that he's having a terrible

00:14:22.200 time addressing effectively on the campaign trail. So if he can keep throwing those hats on back and

00:14:29.020 forth, it allows him to basically sit in the position where he's the prime minister in the

00:14:35.060 government until uh you know and polyev is playing the role of uh the official opposition

00:14:42.520 which means people are going to vote to keep that one more comment d man saying i used to love your 0.88

00:14:46.460 tweets until you stupidly waded into ukraine well if you believe the orange man who said ukraine 0.99

00:14:51.580 started it you're the stupid one we'll leave off on that though and carry on with some other stuff 0.99

00:14:56.360 we got sean poles are in lots of stuff to cover i love interacting with the commenters it's fun 1.00

00:15:02.420 i liked your thing about the orange man oh yes did you see the the tweet they had the picture

00:15:08.120 of trump looking like the florida orange no i hadn't seen that oh i'll have to send it to you

00:15:12.140 i mean it's meme gold i mean there was that one and then somebody animated it though where where

00:15:15.980 uh the what's his name was dipping into the cheeto bag with a brush and painting trump well

00:15:21.280 well and we've had some pretty good success uh using grok yes generate which is a good irony

00:15:27.160 You know, Musk's platform is great for making memes and such.

00:15:31.560 Memes, yes, like political cartoons, you know, back in the day.

00:15:34.800 It's all good fun.

00:15:36.640 So, what do you got breaking today, Sean?

00:15:38.820 Well, apparently, speaking of MAGA, Elon Musk is reportedly,

00:15:45.940 it's unclear whether he's being forced out or whether he's going to be stepping down from his, you know,

00:15:52.740 doji come doji um role as uh trump's uh chief uh i don't know what you call him uh auditor general

00:16:02.340 but i i think it was kind of a new position heading that whole thing but i mean i i've

00:16:07.540 already seen some discussion online saying though that this was planned and he and he's giving

00:16:11.060 notice he's not actually stepping out and and i don't know yet well it's confusing so yeah because

00:16:16.980 when dave and i first saw it we thought like oh my gosh is this april fools like maybe a day late

00:16:21.620 you know you never know no liberation day you know the whole thing but um yeah it appears that

00:16:27.380 he only really had about uh what's 130 days is that four months yeah about that four month to

00:16:33.940 a little more than three yeah either way maybe a quarter or something like that he was so he was

00:16:38.900 scheduled to kind of be on his way out uh in may or june and it seems that uh this kind of just

00:16:44.660 if anything it confirms it um we're not sure if he's stepping out immediately or if he's still

00:16:51.980 going to stick around for a few more weeks or what but yeah it's a MAGA world is uh quite uh

00:16:57.700 upset by it as you as you might imagine well it's a fluid situation I guess I mean you know there's

00:17:03.860 there's no getting around it whatever way you look at it I mean like him or just like him

00:17:06.840 Trump is a big personality I mean he fills a room he he's got to be difficult to work with I mean

00:17:13.620 And he doesn't have a good record of people staying long within his office or having a favorable view of him when they're finished with him.

00:17:21.980 Or staying friends.

00:17:23.160 Well, that's what I mean.

00:17:23.800 I mean, that's just the nature of it.

00:17:27.380 Again, some people can say, well, that's just the consequences of being a strong leader.

00:17:31.300 Fair enough.

00:17:32.280 But people don't stick long with him.

00:17:35.320 And Musk, he's paid a terrible price.

00:17:38.160 Well, he's been around longer than most.

00:17:40.140 Yeah.

00:17:40.580 You know, and then all of Trump's other ex-cohorts wind up being commentators on CNN.

00:17:46.320 Yeah, that's just, if you want to give Trump the finger, go on CNN.

00:17:50.180 Yeah, go on CNN.

00:17:51.500 But I mean, it's just, I mean, it's not, you know,

00:17:53.640 Musk could have his wealth dropped down to 10% of what it is.

00:17:56.780 It's not like he's ever going to have to worry about filling the fridge to eat.

00:18:00.620 But I mean, his association with Trump has most definitely caused Tesla,

00:18:05.520 you know, a terrible tumble in the shares.

00:18:07.780 Unbelievable.

00:18:08.140 Well, they're up about 5% this morning.

00:18:10.180 So whether or not, you know, maybe that's a staged thing, you know, buy on rumor, you know, sell on news, right?

00:18:16.760 But yeah, his shares are up about 5% today and they're down well over 30 since the start of the year and probably about 50% since the election.

00:18:24.900 Well, it's just a risk taken if you're going to associate yourself with a politician, again, left or right.

00:18:29.340 As a business leader, you're going to take some fallout for that.

00:18:32.540 I mean, you know, usually you kind of, that's why a lot of business people speak behind the scenes.

00:18:37.060 It's not necessarily being sneaky.

00:18:38.080 It's just that, hey, if you do that, your business should try to remain somewhat nonpartisan.

00:18:41.900 Like when I owned my pub, even, I had a couple of things, people saying, you're conservative, Corey.

00:18:46.720 Can we have a fundraiser in your pub for this or that?

00:18:48.600 And some of the, you know what, my customers are a mix.

00:18:51.340 They're buying drinks and food.

00:18:52.380 I don't want to mix my politics with the pub.

00:18:54.580 Sit at the front of the bar and rant at me.

00:18:55.760 That's what we do.

00:18:56.360 But I'm not going to dip into that because I could really mess with my customer base.

00:19:00.460 Right.

00:19:01.020 You know, and I think there's a question here, too.

00:19:03.740 So last night you had these special elections and Musk's, you know, he put a lot of money into Wisconsin, into this judicial race and wound up losing, you know, by quite a lot.

00:19:16.380 We, you know, we were talking about some of these other candidates in Florida.

00:19:19.740 They, a lot of Republicans were reelected, but with slimmer margins than they even had in November.

00:19:25.220 And some of the same, I don't know what they call them in US, they call them districts, we call them ridings.

00:19:29.480 Yeah.

00:19:29.680 so you know there might have been a sense that uh you know musk is becoming kind of um

00:19:35.160 that he could drag down trump's popularity because trump still remains relatively popular

00:19:40.500 compared to where he was at this point in uh 2016 he's got a constituency of support in the usa i

00:19:47.240 mean people can't do well yeah i mean he's got 200 million voters either way right so uh there's a

00:19:51.720 sense that maybe um musk is a little more unpopular than he is you know we were laughing uh would 1.00

00:19:57.540 would trump fire musk on the apprentice you know you're fired you know or or would musk try to

00:20:03.620 take over the show you know like schwarzenegger did when well i mean i just wonder and musk has

00:20:11.260 always stayed out of that he stuck to doge just fine but like the whole tariff thing and everything

00:20:15.180 again most business people most economists see tariff politics as just foolish they're not good

00:20:22.360 business they're not good well especially when your major factory is in uh china like all the 1.00

00:20:27.640 teslas that are being sold outside of the u.s are made in china and they were already 100% tariff

00:20:32.320 and so i think uh musk was probably hoping that he was going to get an exemption you know just

00:20:37.040 like every other uh you know the whiskey distillers and kentucky and the pork producers in uh michigan

00:20:43.160 well on the carve out messes and everything i mean that's part of what's coming today at two

00:20:46.180 o'clock we don't know everybody doesn't know i mean is it going to be all is it going to be none

00:20:50.600 is going to be you just don't know and we don't know if tomorrow we might wake up in the morning

00:20:55.000 have his morning ovaltine and say you know what i'm gonna get rid of all of them yeah yeah it's

00:21:01.320 just the the well what is part of what's really taken me off is his external threat as far as it

00:21:08.040 goes is a large part it's been such a gift to the liberals who were on the ropes so i mean you would

00:21:14.360 talk about unintended consequences like i don't you know the question is there's going to be

00:21:18.440 conspiracy theories going around whether or not he actually tried to get carney elected i i don't

00:21:23.400 think i don't think he gives a rats flying anything about canada i mean you know we just happen to be

00:21:28.200 next door and there's policy and so on but i i don't think he could care less uh which uh may

00:21:34.280 or may not happen with our politics you know i saw um i think it was on youtube it was it was a video

00:21:40.600 that he did an interview that he gave uh to like uh who's the guy larry king on cnn back in the

00:21:47.800 the 80s and they were talking about Canada oh Canada is wonderful I do business with them I

00:21:51.840 really like them you know when he was building that skating rink in New York yeah so it seems

00:21:58.460 to be kind of a turnaround like change on the dime well let's let's get back domestic then

00:22:02.580 and somebody changing I mean we've had Mark Carney campaigning and the rest with elbows up

00:22:07.320 team Canada we are gonna get our products to the coast but we're gonna keep the legislation that

00:22:12.680 makes it impossible to get our product to the coast yeah not only that that was kind of funny

00:22:17.320 too because i was writing up the story so uh brookfield you know everybody knows the company

00:22:22.040 he had uh i don't he obviously owns a lot of shares of it yeah and he chaired it so you see

00:22:28.520 maybe he doesn't have influence on the policy i don't know but they're buying up the largest

00:22:32.200 gasoline products pipeline in the u.s goes from texas all the way up to new york um it's it's

00:22:38.120 considered like an essential piece of u.s infrastructure um it was the same one that went

00:22:43.160 under the cyber attack a couple years back and i think the government eventually wound up paying

00:22:48.040 these guys two billion dollars basically to get it back up in service before they had majored anyway

00:22:53.240 so brookfield is buying it uh case de placement to quebec you know the public their version of

00:22:59.560 the cbb owns about 17 of this thing you know worth you know a couple billion dollars i mean to be

00:23:06.680 fair this gets hard because in the business world and that shows our integrated economies i mean

00:23:10.920 a large business leader, a banker, somebody like Karni, you're going to have interests all over

00:23:14.820 the place. I find it, you know, it's fair enough. He might've just set aside all decision-making,

00:23:19.880 but something like buying a pipeline like that, those decisions were made and discussed months

00:23:23.160 and months ago. He already was a part of that and knew about it. Well, he was a co-chair of the,

00:23:28.200 so Brookfield has two $25 billion private equity funds based in Bermuda that he would have co-chaired

00:23:35.460 back at the time. So I don't know if Colonial would have been on the list, but the thing is,

00:23:40.480 i'm sitting here topping it up and we're jen is uh covering the press conference on tv on cbc

00:23:46.480 and they asked him specifically would you repeal bill c69 right no well gee isn't that great you

00:23:53.760 you're buying a freaking pipeline in the competitive pipeline yeah and shutting down us

00:23:59.200 yes gosh you know so it reeks and i mean there's some of the the thing and i have the leopard 0.98

00:24:05.760 I was like, what did he just say?

00:24:09.220 Did he just say that, you know, after he's telling Danielle Smith that we're going to be building cross-country pipelines?

00:24:16.480 I mean, because, look, anybody who knows C69, I'm seeing the fart catchers for the Liberals online trying to make the excuses already.

00:24:23.420 Oh, it doesn't stop pipelines. 0.80

00:24:25.080 Yes, it does.

00:24:25.720 It stops them in their tracks.

00:24:27.120 It's a killer.

00:24:27.780 And it was modeled to be a killer. 0.99

00:24:30.180 I mean, it was a cowardly way for an ideological prime minister to stop energy development without outright banning it, just regulate it to death.

00:24:38.300 Well, and I actually had to go back and look at it and read the summary of the enabling legislation or whatever it was when it passed 217.

00:24:46.920 And you're right.

00:24:49.840 It doesn't specifically mention pipelines.

00:24:53.880 Like it talks about power lines.

00:24:55.320 It talks about navigable waters.

00:24:56.800 it mentions the so the tanker band is a separate build but it kind of reinforces the tanker band

00:25:03.560 you know so you have a lot of ways to sit in there and saying that you know it's not specifically

00:25:07.280 about pipeline but really it only applies to about 25 kilometers you know what i mean northern

00:25:13.040 gateway would have been like what 2500 kilometers well it set that bar and sent the signal to any

00:25:19.020 company so we're thinking of starting the arduous already ridiculous process of trying to get a

00:25:24.200 pipeline approved and built in canada that we're gonna rag the puck until you go broke just like

00:25:30.000 hinder morgan just like energy east just like the rest so they don't officially kill them they did 0.93

00:25:34.040 kill northern gateway but that's their way of just saying don't waste your time because we're not

00:25:37.560 well and it's wrapped up in an environmental assessment like yeah what struck me like because

00:25:41.920 i'd never actually read the thing before was basically how broad it was like you know um if

00:25:46.980 you're just going to repeal bill c69 there's there's so many other pieces of legislation that

00:25:51.960 are kind of dependent on it like it's not it won't be a simple task well i mean nothing's on the go

00:25:58.520 anyway so you can repeal it and get to work on on on filling those holes i mean that's what gets to

00:26:04.380 me let's quit pretending we don't know the processes and what we have to do to get a major

00:26:10.140 project done i mean we we have so much redundancy and so many studies and so many licenses and so

00:26:15.800 many consultations like sure come on guys well you want to go back to carney um and this is kind

00:26:22.560 of unrelated to pipelines but when they were talking about french language law being a potential

00:26:28.900 trade barrier right so carney what did he say he wasn't going to put french language on the table

00:26:36.580 in negotiations even though he's appealing the language law to the supreme court because he

00:26:42.020 thinks it's unconstitutional so this pipeline thing seems to be kind of in that zone as well

00:26:47.880 i think what's hitting and it's nothing new for politics he's just saying whatever the hell he

00:26:51.260 thinks he has to say to get elected which isn't very much and that's not new but the frustrating

00:26:56.940 part is it seems to be working i mean have we heard a direct policy that he's actually going

00:27:02.500 to implement on any of this stuff other than the fact he's going to take a phone call from trump

00:27:07.640 after the election assuming he gets re-elected right or he hasn't even been elected so assuming

00:27:12.920 he gets and and and that was an interesting outcome with the it's just such a bizarre election

00:27:18.760 everything's gotten so divisive so tied up i mean it did expose kind of the hypocrisy where premier

00:27:23.100 smith was pilloried for daring to go down when we didn't even have a prime minister technically i

00:27:28.000 mean you know and doing what she could to negotiate in in mar-a-lago or whatnot and then

00:27:34.040 just recently in florida here too carney has a phone call with trump and said trump says it was 0.98

00:27:38.840 very very productive now he's a hero right and he's a bitch yeah carney's a hero he picked up 0.99

00:27:44.220 the phone yeah like hold on you know i mean you can see it's what he should have done i mean really 0.94

00:27:50.020 like i mean well you're the new prime minister one of the it's always been a tradition i know that

00:27:54.020 we we've rarely had a prime minister elected during such a tense time between countries

00:27:57.420 but it's usually a tradition you're going to speak with your neighboring leader

00:28:00.740 first thing once you you know biggest trading partner he takes 80 of your stuff yeah it seems

00:28:06.220 to me you know i'm trying to go back when trump first got elected didn't he kind of offer a

00:28:09.820 middle finger to canada and he met with the president of mexico first when usually it used

00:28:13.200 to be canada so i think that was uh w oh there's this w's from texas uh you know there are little

00:28:19.220 diplomatic snubs and games that get played too and every side does it to a degree but yeah it's

00:28:25.660 just carny i mean well again it's as bad as trump in some senses if you're going to speak in vague

00:28:30.720 terms we can't get things done like you've got to start laying down what these regulations are 0.82

00:28:35.960 trump won't say what the damn tariffs are carney's well you know i support pipes but i don't and i 0.77

00:28:41.160 yeah you know another weird thing uh and i saw it on an american news network and i believe it 0.98

00:28:45.900 might have been cnbc carney is regurgitating these old french sovereignty slogans in english during

00:28:55.480 his speeches something about uh being strong from the living room or something apparently

00:29:00.600 it's a literal translation of a french sovereignty slogan that goes like way back to the 1950s oh

00:29:07.080 nice yeah and i had to watch american tv to figure that out that he's talking out of both sides of

00:29:11.800 his face well that's been an interesting thing too though with our uh domestic legacy outlets have

00:29:17.800 They've been rather nice to Mr. Kearney.

00:29:20.320 They cut off Pierre mid-sentence today on the CBC.

00:29:26.160 You know, Jen's scribbling down the quote, and it's like, what?

00:29:29.660 He pulled the camera from him.

00:29:32.500 I mean, some of it's a field, I guess, that Polyev ceded.

00:29:35.640 I mean, when he said pretty clearly, I get in, I'm going to defund the CBC,

00:29:38.560 they were pretty well-motivated in making sure he doesn't, you know.

00:29:42.880 But I don't know if they made it much worse.

00:29:44.200 I mean, the CBC weren't going to throw him any love even.

00:29:45.920 Well, apparently Paliyev is putting up an online ad on a CBC platform like every 15 seconds.

00:29:52.340 So you're like, oh, okay, you're going to defund the CBC after you've spent how much on advertising, you know, supporting them during an election.

00:30:02.080 This is our world, but I mean, he needs to reach it.

00:30:03.920 That's been part of the issue going on, too, is it's the older people that are suddenly going back to the love affair with liberals and the younger people aren't.

00:30:11.680 But there's been discussion of that.

00:30:13.440 Older people still watch legacy media.

00:30:14.900 They still watch CTV Global, CBC.

00:30:17.640 They're getting that view that cuts off people like Pauly have made a sentence

00:30:21.960 and says Prime Minister Carney ten times an hour,

00:30:25.380 whereas young people are watching streaming media

00:30:28.120 and getting a different perspective.

00:30:30.680 You know, it seems to me too, and that thought kind of hit me

00:30:34.380 and might be a bit of an aside, but really this liberal vote

00:30:36.900 was a conservative vote, right, because it's a scare vote.

00:30:40.100 People are scared of what's going to happen,

00:30:41.640 And so they're almost willing to park it with, uh, I don't, I don't know if it's a vote for Kearney, you know, I think it's kind of a vote for a status quo.

00:30:50.060 I mean, liberals have been in power for like, what, uh, you know, 75 of the last hundred years, you know, they tend to be.

00:30:56.100 And I mean, I wrote that in my column last week in a sense to the, you know, when there's a threat from outside, you know, an external threat, people rally around the leadership and even if they didn't like them, but they said, we'll set aside the differences until that's done.

00:31:09.960 and you know in the meantime we need to be all unified unfortunately that leadership rally is

00:31:15.000 in the middle of a federal election right so well and i mean uh he's been in charge of the party

00:31:20.280 what a week so i mean like basically everybody that was there before like the whole cast and crew

00:31:25.960 you know that dragged trudeau down i mean like regardless of whatever you think of trudeau i

00:31:29.800 mean he did not have a very strong bench you know on the it's like the oilers when you've

00:31:34.120 only got dry saddle and mcdavid the same circus they just changed the ringmaster

00:31:37.960 yeah the clowns are all the same you haven't had any chance to really go back in there and kind of

00:31:42.600 fix the issues that were in the party for the last six seven years right which makes the outcome 0.79

00:31:49.240 bleak but we will see i guess carney has not really articulated a single policy no well other

00:31:55.960 than the emissions cap which wasn't his he's being big works for him he's willing to do it

00:32:00.840 yeah all right well we'll let you get back to your desk and finding more uh business

00:32:05.720 You see what's happening with Elon this

00:32:09.340 week or not, or whatever. Occupy Mars.

00:32:12.100 Oh God. Which goes back to our April

00:32:15.660 Fool's story. Did you see that? I didn't.

00:32:17.480 Oh, it was great. I should have.

00:32:21.680 It's timely. It turned out to be newsworthy.

00:32:24.200 Okay. Well, I'm going to, I was looking,

00:32:26.260 I knew it was every year we do one and I

00:32:27.800 just, I was busy that day. No, this one was

00:32:29.380 good. Okay. Right on. All right. Well,

00:32:31.940 thanks Sean. And we'll talk to you again

00:32:34.500 soon great that's great thanks yeah there's our business and energy reporter uh sean pulser and

00:32:40.020 yeah he's always covering lots and getting some of those scoops and and it has a big been a big

00:32:43.780 story you know the pipelines is carney supporting him is he not does he support c69 well no apparently

00:32:49.140 not uh joe mills pointing out you know i saying i'm 67 i've always voted conservative yeah not

00:32:53.700 every older person is uh suddenly swinging uh liberal these days but a lot of them are the

00:32:59.460 demographic i mean used to be traditionally when you look at the vote breakdowns it tended to be

00:33:04.020 the younger people tended to go a little more progressive and the older people tended to stick

00:33:07.460 conservative i know for being at a lot of meetings reform party meetings back when i was a young

00:33:11.700 person with my nice mullet uh i was the baby in the room in those places i mean among the gray hair

00:33:18.020 and and uh geritol and it's changed it's shifted and it's different it's weird and uh joe also

00:33:23.460 pointing out saying hoping the election turnout is massive yeah i mean we always want that for

00:33:27.060 for the sake of democracy. But again, remember, you know, and another commenter, Fah Q, it looks

00:33:34.540 like, oh, geez, you got me on that one. Nice. I'm going to read out the commenter's names without

00:33:39.320 being careful. Either way, I need to get out the youth vote. And yeah, that's a hard thing. That's

00:33:44.860 always been a challenge. It's been a challenge for progressives that the youth vote are also

00:33:52.660 the hardest ones to get out to vote. So that's why often conservatives are overrepresented or

00:33:59.220 underrepresented in polls in the sense that oh the poll shows 44% would vote conservative and then

00:34:04.580 the election comes along and it turns out 53% voted. Well the difference was if you're pulling

00:34:08.860 everybody across the demographics the older folks are far more inclined to get up and go vote and

00:34:14.260 they traditionally were with the conservatives. The younger ones who would speak out but oh geez

00:34:18.940 there's a good concert on that night or there's a party down the road or or whatever they're much

00:34:24.420 more easily distracted much less inclined to take the time and trouble and go out to vote it's just

00:34:28.200 the way it is you know those stats can be proven out just for for electoral turnout it's not a

00:34:32.660 matter of bias so but it doesn't bode well now when the conservatives are are apparently doing

00:34:39.160 better with uh uh younger people than older I mean they want to do well with everybody but you

00:34:45.380 get more strength out of uh getting those those uh older voters out and uh this you know here's

00:34:52.440 an interesting point made and I've said this before uh from Dieter my most annoying yet he

00:34:59.220 makes good points on x and so on and he has a sense of humor which I can respect he still piss

00:35:04.460 me off at times too but all the same he said I'd love to have a progressive conservative and a

00:35:07.740 reform party again on the right side of the aisle uh he says Pierre is an empty suit and I have to

00:35:11.800 wonder who's filling it. I'm a little more optimistic about Pierre, but something I have

00:35:15.780 said before, and it's true. One of the most conservative governments we ever had actually

00:35:20.500 was the Jean Chrétien government with the reform opposition breathing down his neck.

00:35:26.720 I mean, it was, you know, Chrétien and Martin balanced the budget. And we've got to remember

00:35:30.620 that was riding a wave of everybody balancing the budget back then. We were still very high

00:35:34.720 interest rates compared to now, but people were sick of debts. They wanted to see them paid down.

00:35:39.880 So, Chrétien paid the debt down.

00:35:41.580 He made the cuts.

00:35:42.360 He did what had to be done at the time.

00:35:43.660 I think the Conservatives could have done better, but whatever.

00:35:47.040 It was definitely a Conservative government at its time.

00:35:50.400 And, you know, Roy Romano also, as an NDP, managed to balance the budget in Saskatchewan.

00:35:54.760 So, it was a different period altogether.

00:35:57.020 But it's a valid point.

00:35:58.500 Now, again, I'm a regionalist.

00:36:00.160 You know where I'm looking at things and going, and I'm frustrated.

00:36:03.400 I'm not kidding.

00:36:04.300 As I said in the opening monologue, I got a feeling.

00:36:07.660 Depends on the tone of this election.

00:36:09.520 And as well as, again, after all this, if we get a liberal, particularly a liberal majority,

00:36:15.220 we're going to see a flare-up of independent sentiment like we haven't seen since the 80s.

00:36:20.680 There's no doubt about that, the frustration.

00:36:23.800 I mean, come on.

00:36:25.680 How?

00:36:26.260 How do you fall for such a quick switch?

00:36:28.840 I mean, it's like Sean was talking about, it's like Dave was talking about.

00:36:32.480 Sure, Carney's a new person, but it's all the same people around him.

00:36:36.380 it's all the main core planks and policies why do you expect something to change this government

00:36:43.080 was so bad you were barely willing to you know one in five people willing to support the liberals

00:36:48.280 only a few weeks ago and suddenly almost half are ready to take it on again i mean you do feel like

00:36:55.360 you know the the person who's abused in a relationship when the the abuser comes crawling

00:37:00.580 back i promise i've changed i've difference this time and then okay i'll take you back well guys

00:37:05.400 they don't change. You've got to change the person. And in this case, you've got to change

00:37:09.640 more than the person. You've got to change the party. That's kind of what I was talking about

00:37:13.700 in my monologue. We accept that the vast majority of years in Canada are governed by federal liberal

00:37:20.740 governments. You know, they're the natural governing party. That's who Central Canada

00:37:24.020 loves, and that's the way our system works, and that's where the population is. We're going to

00:37:27.640 get a predominantly liberal set of governments. But we need to cycle them out now and then.

00:37:33.400 It's the only thing that keeps us sane, keeps us in business a little bit. 0.97

00:37:36.440 And if we're looking at 10 more years of these jackasses, 1.00

00:37:38.800 no, the West is not going to be thrilled with this at all. 0.71

00:37:43.980 It's not like the rest of the country has to be wagged by the Western tail,

00:37:49.060 but just keep in mind, we've had enough.

00:37:53.580 You know, Laurie Carter, bringing another point,

00:37:55.460 Carter isn't new, he's been involved for years, exactly.

00:37:57.900 I mean, there's a picture I used in my column last week,

00:38:00.460 You know, showing Trudeau and Carney sitting together on a stage back in 2017, I believe it was.

00:38:08.320 I mean, they've been tied at the hip.

00:38:09.480 They've been tight.

00:38:10.260 They're of the same government.

00:38:11.280 He was advising Trudeau throughout that.

00:38:12.920 We know that Trudeau wasn't exactly a deep economic thinker or a deep thinker on much of anything.

00:38:18.520 I mean, come on.

00:38:19.700 The deepest he'd get in thinking is trying to spell words in his alphabet cereal when he's watching the Saturday morning cartoons when his maids brought it in for him.

00:38:26.480 Carney is scary.

00:38:27.380 He's smarter, but he's the same ideologue.

00:38:29.060 and that ideology hurts the West badly and look at it look at things falling apart I was looking

00:38:37.280 forward to getting a Mr. Carboneau on I hope I can get him you know with some of the things

00:38:40.860 the corporate welfare and hey conservatives are guilty of it too I loathe corporate welfare on

00:38:46.940 all levels and Alberta did it brutally with MagCan and Novotel and a number of things conservative

00:38:52.980 governments pouring billions of tax dollars into business ventures that almost always go bust 0.98

00:38:57.680 because it's crony capitalism, it's garbage, and they rip you off.

00:39:01.320 Well, we have that now with battery plants out east, a cricket plant, as I said, 0.98

00:39:05.120 stuff like that.

00:39:06.060 That's not going to change once Carney gets in.

00:39:09.300 That's that same ideology.

00:39:10.440 That's the reason you've got to flush the pipes. 0.91

00:39:13.060 You've got to get the cronies out. 0.89

00:39:15.200 You've got to clean them out and get some fresh faces.

00:39:18.180 Everybody talks like it's going to be the end of the world

00:39:20.040 when one government gets in or another gets in.

00:39:22.560 The reality is in Canada, the conservatives and the liberals

00:39:26.620 are not extremely far apart they're pragmatists once they get in and they'll shift to where they

00:39:32.360 think needs things need to go and they can both be prone to some inside dealing I mean again the

00:39:37.940 Mulroney government towards the end was getting pretty ugly with some of those Airbus and other

00:39:41.540 affairs going on Chrétien government Trudeau government and that's why you've got to change

00:39:46.600 them out now and then so if we don't change out the liberals this time it's going to be bad no not

00:39:52.560 just for the west it's going to be for canada and there's stuff with brookfield yeah what's this

00:39:56.760 brookfield entities registered to bermuda building that houses a bike shop like it's it's old politics

00:40:03.620 tied into the government crony capitalism and it's bad for us all over the place we're gonna see

00:40:10.660 what's happening and that's why again you know we see media it's it's in a place of flux right

00:40:18.420 legacy media is dying it's nowhere near where it used to be and outlets like ours are rising we're

00:40:23.220 doing all right thanks to you guys again subscribing and advertising and bringing on

00:40:26.820 models where we're streamlined we can do these things on a better budget than other outlets can

00:40:32.540 i mean there's shortcomings with smaller outlets and things too but that's the nature of it now

00:40:37.180 subsidies have been pouring into the legacy outlets and they know that if anybody's going

00:40:41.280 to cut those subsidies it's going to be polyhuff so yeah they've got an inherent need to keep the

00:40:49.680 liberals in power particularly cbc which already wasn't exactly conservative friendly to begin with

00:40:55.500 and then looking at some of these things just a side note a little bit of a circus politics

00:41:01.160 because it did get a lot of clicks as part of the fun it's clickbait there's the risks with

00:41:04.520 smaller outlets okay you're more inclined to jump into some of those smaller issues and try and grab

00:41:09.080 those clicks but for folks Rachel Gilmore an interesting character online the progressive

00:41:15.580 blowhard she had a you know somewhat promising looking potential career as a reporter with 1.00

00:41:21.600 global but she kind of messed things up and blew that and got them sued got fired moved on to a 1.00

00:41:27.580 couple of other places got canned from those but she's very outspoken and polarizing and stirs folks 1.00

00:41:33.340 up online a lot and she managed to get herself another job she got on with ctv as a fact checker

00:41:41.820 a fact checker now this is a consequence getting back on to uh uh the trump administration from 0.98

00:41:50.180 years ago i mean politicians have always been full of crap we know that that's nothing new to us 0.51

00:41:54.040 but he really brought it to a whole new level he he really hit new heights in in in bsing and 0.93

00:42:01.200 some people with supporters just shrug it off. Oh, Trump just says things. Well, yeah, but I don't

00:42:05.420 want people in such positions of power to so quickly lie to us on things. So it led to fact

00:42:11.820 checking happening in a lot of media outlets and honest media outlets. If they'd have a debate,

00:42:15.940 they would show, you know, the Democrat versus the Republican. And if it was Trump, I mean,

00:42:19.620 the Democrat would lie 12 times in the debate and Trump would lie 50 times or something. They're

00:42:23.220 both lying, just one more than others. So either way, it brought about this whole role. I'll get

00:42:28.080 to where it went there Jacqueline yeah with a commenter I'm responding to said that CTV let

00:42:33.100 Gilmore go and that's the truth you want to start looking at these politicians because a lot of them

00:42:38.480 started taking on BSing and media outlets want to actually just check and say well is what they're

00:42:42.700 saying true and give a list so it's a good segment you should have a segment fine where you're going

00:42:47.300 to check the facts of what the politicians said but if you're going to have somebody in that role

00:42:51.840 they should be the most balanced impartial reporter you've got they should be somebody

00:42:57.580 who's just looking at checking the facts and trying to clarify and present those.

00:43:04.300 Rachel Gilmore was not that. She's hyper-partisan. She heavily, heavily attacks the conservatives 0.98

00:43:12.300 at every possible opportunity. She's been caught in full BS, including even with myself,

00:43:17.480 when she lied online because she was putting in complaints about a podcast I appeared on.

00:43:22.100 She said, I never emailed the Western Standard. Then I posted the email she'd sent to the

00:43:25.560 Western Standard. Oh, well, yeah, man, we should fact check you. Hey, Rachel. Either way, CTV fired

00:43:30.980 her after one episode. Yes, she made it through one episode. Now, what was CTV thinking in hiring

00:43:37.560 her in the first place, though? Why, if you were going to have the role of fact checking, did you

00:43:41.720 pick up somebody so biased and so polarizing? I would be just as bad in that position. Why?

00:43:47.260 Because I'm an opinion guy. I've been putting opinions out and stirring things up and I've got

00:43:51.620 my own personal bias which is part of being an opinion writer having an opinion show thus I'm

00:43:56.740 inappropriate for that role. It doesn't mean I have no role I just don't have a role as a fact

00:44:01.320 checker. Yet some luminaries at CBC thought it was a smart idea to put Rachel Gilmore in that role. 0.99

00:44:07.840 What the hell were you clowns thinking? Welcome again to watching Legacy Media kick itself in 0.98

00:44:13.180 the nuts. Either way she made it through one episode. Rachel looks bad out of this. CTV looks 0.88

00:44:18.200 bad out of this she's online playing martyr and and a victim and so on saying it was cancel culture

00:44:23.440 that got her fired after one episode of the show that wasn't the case i mean some people were pretty

00:44:28.500 crabby when they discovered she's going to be on as a fact checker on ctv but it wasn't cancel

00:44:33.280 culture it was somebody in ctv probably looking at and scratching their head saying what you put

00:44:37.560 her where i mean come on guys uh wind uh winter's gray just to final wrap things up a bit why should

00:44:45.620 we have to have fact checkers. If you report the truth, you shouldn't have to. Where's their

00:44:49.220 morals? How sad. Well, it's not, well, the media has got to be fact checked sometimes on a lot of

00:44:55.660 things as well and so on. No, ideally we shouldn't have to have people fact checking politicians

00:45:01.440 and breaking it down. The default should be the truth out of politicians, but that comes down to

00:45:06.840 that woulda, coulda, shoulda. What's the old saying? And I'm probably going to brutalize it,

00:45:11.400 paraphrasing you know a lie gets halfway around the world before the truth even gets its pants

00:45:18.160 on or something like that or even gets out of bed so politicians have learned it's just easier to

00:45:23.120 bs and people will believe your untrue point uh and you've done the damage is done even if the

00:45:30.360 retraction comes later right remember when there's bs in the media yeah big headline on something

00:45:34.540 like that and the retraction's gonna be way back at the paper a little paragraph oh sorry that was

00:45:37.800 incorrect. It doesn't always happen, but it does happen. Either way, crazy times. We've got a lot

00:45:42.240 of election ahead of us. Tune into the pipeline tonight. There's going to be a panel of me and

00:45:46.820 Nigel and Derek, and we'll cover a few more issues as they come up. The other shows are coming.

00:45:51.180 Nigel has his, Sean's going to got another show coming up. We're really expanding our digital

00:45:54.880 broadcasts this Friday at 11. I'm going to be on for another couple of hours live, mostly on a

00:46:00.720 federal election focus again, and we'll cover some more issues and have some more guests. So

00:46:04.540 thank you very much for tuning in today guys i really appreciate it

00:46:08.540 yell at me on x if you want to yell further and i will see you all on friday

00:46:34.540 We'll be back.

Western Standard - April 02, 2025

This election could shatter Canada

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