This election could shatter Canada
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In this episode of The Cory Morrigan Show, coming live from the cold, windswept plains of Alberta, Cory takes a look at the history of Canadian unity, and how it s been eroded in recent decades.
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welcome to the cory morrigan show coming live from the cold wintery windswept plains of alberta
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on permanently ceded territory in calgary this is a live show be sure to tune in there guys
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use that comment scroll check in uh share those things with me oh i see dieters in that should be
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fun and uh yes rod broad they're checking in others use it send those questions the idea is
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my way and uh you know i don't necessarily read them all out but i do see them all and just helps
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remind me this shows live and that there are people on the other end of that camera i'm not
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just talking to myself like i usually do when i'm driving i got a a good one today i'm afraid my
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guest i was looking forward to having him on laureate carbineau who'd written a book called
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at the trough which is a fantastic book on corporate welfare had to cancel last moment
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that's okay we'll have sean poles are in he's got lots to talk about there's lots of news happening
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and things to discuss and uh well we'll go on about other things so let me talk about uh
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what's got me wound up today and it's canadian unity it's always a consideration in federal
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elections i mean as a federation canada has independence movements both in quebec and in
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the west support for those movements has had its ebbs and flows but they can't be dismissed
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i mean in quebec the province came within one percent of a positive vote for separation in a
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1995 referenda and alberta support for independence was high enough for gordon kessler to win a
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legislative seat with an independence platform and that was back in response to trudeau's national
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energy program in the 80s but again it shows it's real out here independent support in alberta
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since has been on a slow boil but it's been increasing polls in 2023 indicated a quarter
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of albertans supported full independence from canada those polls were dismissed as representing
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a small minority of albertans look having one in four people wanting to have a province leave a
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country is a rather large number of seriously dissatisfied people it's pretty fool-hearted
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hardy to dismiss those numbers populist movements have erupted quickly from much smaller bases of
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support than that the movement for independence in alberta could quickly turn from a smoldering
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discontent into an outright prairie fire if the federal election turns into a regional slugfest
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and we get a liberal win i mean albertans have never been comfortable with the relationship with
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the federal liberals or ottawa governance in general i mean in the early 1900s western farmers
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were hit with protectionist tariffs on farm implements modeled to prop up eastern manufacturing
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industries. The rail monopoly forced farmers to pay the freight for the supplies coming into them
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and then they had to pay the freight for the crops going out. And while agriculture was a growing
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industry in the west, the producers were at a disadvantage when compared to American farmers
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due to central Canadian policies. The famous milch cow cartoon, this is from 1915,
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depicted western farmers feverishly working to feed a giant cow astride a map
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its economy and develop this new resource but alas the eastern powers had no interest in western
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oil if they could continue to ship it from foreign sources that all changed though when price shocks
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for oil hit the world in the 1970s. Suddenly, Alberta's oil that nobody wanted became Canada's
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oil, and Pierre Trudeau performed a vile act of regional ravishing with the national energy
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program. Alberta's economy was decimated. You know, even Brian Mulroney, he didn't repeal the
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program until the price of oil collapsed. Then Alberta was left drained, used, dejected, and yet
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still we were chided for being ungrateful if we dared to question the value of this federation.
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The Chrétien administration was a little better, and do no more love from Alberta, as Chrétien
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candidly admitted he didn't care for dealing with Albertans while policies continued to drain the
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West to feed the East. And we had of course now the Justin Trudeau government. Trudeau part two,
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the most left-leaning anti-oil administration in the history of Canada. Westerners were reviled
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while efforts to construct pipelines were shunted, new oil sands developments were cancelled,
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and money was poured into eastern battery plants and yeah, cricket factories, which failed. But
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Westerners were derided as selfish rednecks if they dared to complain about this fine woke
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government. While regional ire has been growing for decades, it never hit the tipping point though
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of becoming an effective independence movement. Poles showed independence support rising but still
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it's never gotten quite near that 50% point and that's because most Albertans accepted there's
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going to be a break in the cycle. I mean traditionally in Canada every 10 years or so
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eastern Canada would offer the west a breather and let another party into government for a little
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while. Even Laurentians realized they must flush the pipes now and then lest the corruption and
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entitlement become too much within the house of commons. Westerners would grumble but they were
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willing to wait until a reset occurred so they could get a new government. With the Trudeau
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government managing to reach support levels as low as 17 percent, Westerners were breathing a
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sigh of relief. I mean while Trudeau's reign was marked with corruption, ineptitude, scandals and
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foreign interference, it was finally coming to an end. But alas, it's appearing nothing's going to
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change. All the liberals had to do was change the face at the front of their corrupted party
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and Eastern Canada fell back in love with them. The cabinet members are the same and the new
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leader is just as ideologically opposed to Western industries as his predecessor. The new leader
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stole aspects of the platform of the Conservatives and appears to be poised to win a majority
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government from the East. The cycle now has broken and Westerners are going to be facing
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a new reality, which is no matter how badly the Liberals may govern, Eastern Canada will
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keep them in power. The hope for reprieve through a term or two of new government is evaporating.
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The West could be facing yet another decade of abusive government dominated by Laurentian
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elites. Hope for change within Canada for Westerners will be lost and they're going to
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have some soul searching to do should westerners resign themselves to being perpetually ruled by
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a distant government that only serves the east or is it time to break free of the federation that
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serves westerners so poorly eastern voters might not realize it today but their self-serving voting
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patterns could lead to the end of canada as they know it you know what maybe that's not such a bad
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thing maybe it's time change is always good well that's what's got me started today dave how's it
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going happy liberation day yes liberation day liberation from what you're a bit of a debbie
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downer on the selection aren't you well how about this there's gonna be double digit weather this
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weekend i'm looking forward to working my bees and enjoying myself but the election sucks balls
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and i have i have confidence that carney has peaked and uh paulia will still win okay well
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and you know i i put that out on x the other day i put it out my prediction from back at the start
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of this a week and some ago, I predict a liberal
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But we still have three weeks of campaigning left.
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Hey, are you going to keep that Indigenous
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And there are reports from Politico, a respected site, that Elon Musk is going to be leaving his role as, you know, in DOGE, Department of Government and Efficiency.
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He's been a lightning rod, obviously, and it's led to, you know, car fires all over the place and protests and around the world.
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Our Sean Polzer, like I said, Politico is pretty respected.
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Well, I mean, the orange man doesn't tend to maintain long-term relations.
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No, and it's lasted longer than I think everybody else thought it would.
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Speaking of Pierre Polyev, he had a press thing in Toronto today where he vowed he would get rid of DEI in all universities, which I think is a winning platform, but might lose the university vote.
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Our Jen Hodgson has got a good thing up there now, it's called Promises, Promises, and it's a list of every single province, every single promise that each leader has made in various categories like education, health care, energy, that sort of stuff.
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So that'll be updated every day during the campaign.
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So if you're looking for what your party is standing on what, it's there for you.
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It's really detailed, and she's done a very good job on that.
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A story that's breaking the website this morning is titled Pipeline Paradox by Sean.
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I know he's going to come in here and talk to you about it, so I don't want to, you know, waste your time when you're going to be talking to him.
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But it's all about Mark Carney and his former company that he was the chair of trying to buy a $10 billion pipeline through the states.
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Meanwhile, he vowed yesterday not to cancel Bill C-69, the anti-pipeline law in Canada.
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And the Leach verdict, Tamara Leach, the longest mischief trial in Canadian history.
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Verdict coming down tomorrow morning in Ottawa,
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and Jen will be all over that Thursday morning.
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We're all waiting in anticipation of the big orange man
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she's never made bones about tariffs, blah, blah, blah.
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I mean, just settle on something, you crazy cheeto.
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I mean, you know, businesses have to try and plan.
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And they can plan if they know that this lunacy has got to stop.
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You've got Mark Carney huddled in the bunker in Ottawa.
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He's, you know, I assume he'll have something to say this afternoon after the tariffs.
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Let's figure out what's happening and let's get back to the best life that we can and get this election campaign going again.
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I think people will now start focusing on the issues themselves.
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We'll certainly be covering it closely to watch the trends,
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and maybe I'll eat some words on election night when we do our special coverage.
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And as you can see, there's lots and lots of stories constantly breaking, constantly moving.
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This is where I nag a little bit for money, guys.
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The reason we've got so many reporters on the ground working on these things,
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out westernstandard.news subscription let's have a quick look at the uh comment scroll let's see you
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know humorous ones from Dieter saying uh supporting idea of uh improving higher education in alberta
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by building taller schools all right that's fine uh that's for vicky bayford i believe she's running
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for the ppc uh saying the wave is starting you know we haven't well i know they're trying you
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know the the people's party is out there they're pushing and uh you know looking at this federal
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election this has turned canada into a basically a two-party system now uh maxime bernier's
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People's Party was never quite really threatening to win seats and spots, but it represented and
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still does a constituency. I still think it's important to have all those candidates out there
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getting different perspectives out using the platform as a means to either you're building
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a party in the long term, or at least addressing some issues that the other larger parties won't.
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But the more interesting thing than them, you know, the PPC folks are putting out their thing
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is uh the NDP you know that that's a lot of what's been going on in this election they have
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collapsed I mean they are down to a fraction of where they are and in a first past the post
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system unless they've got a few good really good concentrated writings they could be obliterated
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in this election unimaginable and that vote is going to the liberals I mean people who were
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you know inclined to support social democrats if they were changing their votes look they weren't
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going to make the leap and jump over to the conservatives that's just not the way it's going
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to happen and they're not going to make a comeback jagmeet's is lackluster and uninspiring as he's
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ever been so that's not going to be going there but something else and it's not a it's not a
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conspiracy it's not anybody doing anything wrong it's just a fluke of circumstances in a lot of
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ways. But as Dave mentioned, you know, Carney's taking another day off to deal with the stuff
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coming from south of the border. And he should. Whether we like it or not, the way our system
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works, he is the Prime Minister right now, and he has to address these issues as the Prime Minister.
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It's a caretaker government, but this is pressing. But it works brilliantly for the Liberal campaign
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anyways, because he can look prime ministerial. He can basically practice the role whilst the
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campaign is going on. And it also helps him avoid those tough questions that he's having a terrible
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time addressing effectively on the campaign trail. So if he can keep throwing those hats on back and
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forth, it allows him to basically sit in the position where he's the prime minister in the
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government until uh you know and polyev is playing the role of uh the official opposition
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which means people are going to vote to keep that one more comment d man saying i used to love your
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tweets until you stupidly waded into ukraine well if you believe the orange man who said ukraine
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started it you're the stupid one we'll leave off on that though and carry on with some other stuff
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we got sean poles are in lots of stuff to cover i love interacting with the commenters it's fun
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i liked your thing about the orange man oh yes did you see the the tweet they had the picture
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of trump looking like the florida orange no i hadn't seen that oh i'll have to send it to you
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i mean it's meme gold i mean there was that one and then somebody animated it though where where
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uh the what's his name was dipping into the cheeto bag with a brush and painting trump well
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well and we've had some pretty good success uh using grok yes generate which is a good irony
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You know, Musk's platform is great for making memes and such.
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Memes, yes, like political cartoons, you know, back in the day.
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Well, apparently, speaking of MAGA, Elon Musk is reportedly,
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it's unclear whether he's being forced out or whether he's going to be stepping down from his, you know,
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doji come doji um role as uh trump's uh chief uh i don't know what you call him uh auditor general
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but i i think it was kind of a new position heading that whole thing but i mean i i've
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already seen some discussion online saying though that this was planned and he and he's giving
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notice he's not actually stepping out and and i don't know yet well it's confusing so yeah because
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when dave and i first saw it we thought like oh my gosh is this april fools like maybe a day late
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you know you never know no liberation day you know the whole thing but um yeah it appears that
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he only really had about uh what's 130 days is that four months yeah about that four month to
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a little more than three yeah either way maybe a quarter or something like that he was so he was
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scheduled to kind of be on his way out uh in may or june and it seems that uh this kind of just
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if anything it confirms it um we're not sure if he's stepping out immediately or if he's still
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going to stick around for a few more weeks or what but yeah it's a MAGA world is uh quite uh
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upset by it as you as you might imagine well it's a fluid situation I guess I mean you know there's
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there's no getting around it whatever way you look at it I mean like him or just like him
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Trump is a big personality I mean he fills a room he he's got to be difficult to work with I mean
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And he doesn't have a good record of people staying long within his office or having a favorable view of him when they're finished with him.
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Again, some people can say, well, that's just the consequences of being a strong leader.
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You know, and then all of Trump's other ex-cohorts wind up being commentators on CNN.
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Yeah, that's just, if you want to give Trump the finger, go on CNN.
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But I mean, it's just, I mean, it's not, you know,
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Musk could have his wealth dropped down to 10% of what it is.
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It's not like he's ever going to have to worry about filling the fridge to eat.
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But I mean, his association with Trump has most definitely caused Tesla,
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So whether or not, you know, maybe that's a staged thing, you know, buy on rumor, you know, sell on news, right?
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But yeah, his shares are up about 5% today and they're down well over 30 since the start of the year and probably about 50% since the election.
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Well, it's just a risk taken if you're going to associate yourself with a politician, again, left or right.
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As a business leader, you're going to take some fallout for that.
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I mean, you know, usually you kind of, that's why a lot of business people speak behind the scenes.
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It's just that, hey, if you do that, your business should try to remain somewhat nonpartisan.
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Like when I owned my pub, even, I had a couple of things, people saying, you're conservative, Corey.
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Can we have a fundraiser in your pub for this or that?
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And some of the, you know what, my customers are a mix.
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But I'm not going to dip into that because I could really mess with my customer base.
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You know, and I think there's a question here, too.
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So last night you had these special elections and Musk's, you know, he put a lot of money into Wisconsin, into this judicial race and wound up losing, you know, by quite a lot.
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We, you know, we were talking about some of these other candidates in Florida.
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They, a lot of Republicans were reelected, but with slimmer margins than they even had in November.
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And some of the same, I don't know what they call them in US, they call them districts, we call them ridings.
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so you know there might have been a sense that uh you know musk is becoming kind of um
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that he could drag down trump's popularity because trump still remains relatively popular
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compared to where he was at this point in uh 2016 he's got a constituency of support in the usa i
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mean people can't do well yeah i mean he's got 200 million voters either way right so uh there's a
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sense that maybe um musk is a little more unpopular than he is you know we were laughing uh would
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would trump fire musk on the apprentice you know you're fired you know or or would musk try to
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take over the show you know like schwarzenegger did when well i mean i just wonder and musk has
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always stayed out of that he stuck to doge just fine but like the whole tariff thing and everything
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again most business people most economists see tariff politics as just foolish they're not good
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business they're not good well especially when your major factory is in uh china like all the
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teslas that are being sold outside of the u.s are made in china and they were already 100% tariff
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and so i think uh musk was probably hoping that he was going to get an exemption you know just
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like every other uh you know the whiskey distillers and kentucky and the pork producers in uh michigan
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well on the carve out messes and everything i mean that's part of what's coming today at two
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o'clock we don't know everybody doesn't know i mean is it going to be all is it going to be none
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is going to be you just don't know and we don't know if tomorrow we might wake up in the morning
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have his morning ovaltine and say you know what i'm gonna get rid of all of them yeah yeah it's
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just the the well what is part of what's really taken me off is his external threat as far as it
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goes is a large part it's been such a gift to the liberals who were on the ropes so i mean you would
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talk about unintended consequences like i don't you know the question is there's going to be
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conspiracy theories going around whether or not he actually tried to get carney elected i i don't
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think i don't think he gives a rats flying anything about canada i mean you know we just happen to be
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next door and there's policy and so on but i i don't think he could care less uh which uh may
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or may not happen with our politics you know i saw um i think it was on youtube it was it was a video
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that he did an interview that he gave uh to like uh who's the guy larry king on cnn back in the
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the 80s and they were talking about Canada oh Canada is wonderful I do business with them I
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really like them you know when he was building that skating rink in New York yeah so it seems
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to be kind of a turnaround like change on the dime well let's let's get back domestic then
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and somebody changing I mean we've had Mark Carney campaigning and the rest with elbows up
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team Canada we are gonna get our products to the coast but we're gonna keep the legislation that
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makes it impossible to get our product to the coast yeah not only that that was kind of funny
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too because i was writing up the story so uh brookfield you know everybody knows the company
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he had uh i don't he obviously owns a lot of shares of it yeah and he chaired it so you see
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maybe he doesn't have influence on the policy i don't know but they're buying up the largest
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gasoline products pipeline in the u.s goes from texas all the way up to new york um it's it's
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considered like an essential piece of u.s infrastructure um it was the same one that went
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under the cyber attack a couple years back and i think the government eventually wound up paying
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these guys two billion dollars basically to get it back up in service before they had majored anyway
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so brookfield is buying it uh case de placement to quebec you know the public their version of
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the cbb owns about 17 of this thing you know worth you know a couple billion dollars i mean to be
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fair this gets hard because in the business world and that shows our integrated economies i mean
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a large business leader, a banker, somebody like Karni, you're going to have interests all over
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the place. I find it, you know, it's fair enough. He might've just set aside all decision-making,
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but something like buying a pipeline like that, those decisions were made and discussed months
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and months ago. He already was a part of that and knew about it. Well, he was a co-chair of the,
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so Brookfield has two $25 billion private equity funds based in Bermuda that he would have co-chaired
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back at the time. So I don't know if Colonial would have been on the list, but the thing is,
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i'm sitting here topping it up and we're jen is uh covering the press conference on tv on cbc
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and they asked him specifically would you repeal bill c69 right no well gee isn't that great you
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you're buying a freaking pipeline in the competitive pipeline yeah and shutting down us
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yes gosh you know so it reeks and i mean there's some of the the thing and i have the leopard
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Did he just say that, you know, after he's telling Danielle Smith that we're going to be building cross-country pipelines?
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I mean, because, look, anybody who knows C69, I'm seeing the fart catchers for the Liberals online trying to make the excuses already.
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I mean, it was a cowardly way for an ideological prime minister to stop energy development without outright banning it, just regulate it to death.
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Well, and I actually had to go back and look at it and read the summary of the enabling legislation or whatever it was when it passed 217.
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it mentions the so the tanker band is a separate build but it kind of reinforces the tanker band
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you know so you have a lot of ways to sit in there and saying that you know it's not specifically
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about pipeline but really it only applies to about 25 kilometers you know what i mean northern
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gateway would have been like what 2500 kilometers well it set that bar and sent the signal to any
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company so we're thinking of starting the arduous already ridiculous process of trying to get a
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pipeline approved and built in canada that we're gonna rag the puck until you go broke just like
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hinder morgan just like energy east just like the rest so they don't officially kill them they did
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kill northern gateway but that's their way of just saying don't waste your time because we're not
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well and it's wrapped up in an environmental assessment like yeah what struck me like because
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i'd never actually read the thing before was basically how broad it was like you know um if
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you're just going to repeal bill c69 there's there's so many other pieces of legislation that
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are kind of dependent on it like it's not it won't be a simple task well i mean nothing's on the go
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anyway so you can repeal it and get to work on on on filling those holes i mean that's what gets to
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me let's quit pretending we don't know the processes and what we have to do to get a major
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project done i mean we we have so much redundancy and so many studies and so many licenses and so
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many consultations like sure come on guys well you want to go back to carney um and this is kind
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of unrelated to pipelines but when they were talking about french language law being a potential
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trade barrier right so carney what did he say he wasn't going to put french language on the table
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in negotiations even though he's appealing the language law to the supreme court because he
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thinks it's unconstitutional so this pipeline thing seems to be kind of in that zone as well
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i think what's hitting and it's nothing new for politics he's just saying whatever the hell he
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thinks he has to say to get elected which isn't very much and that's not new but the frustrating
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part is it seems to be working i mean have we heard a direct policy that he's actually going
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to implement on any of this stuff other than the fact he's going to take a phone call from trump
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after the election assuming he gets re-elected right or he hasn't even been elected so assuming
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he gets and and and that was an interesting outcome with the it's just such a bizarre election
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everything's gotten so divisive so tied up i mean it did expose kind of the hypocrisy where premier
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smith was pilloried for daring to go down when we didn't even have a prime minister technically i
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mean you know and doing what she could to negotiate in in mar-a-lago or whatnot and then
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just recently in florida here too carney has a phone call with trump and said trump says it was
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very very productive now he's a hero right and he's a bitch yeah carney's a hero he picked up
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the phone yeah like hold on you know i mean you can see it's what he should have done i mean really
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like i mean well you're the new prime minister one of the it's always been a tradition i know that
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we we've rarely had a prime minister elected during such a tense time between countries
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but it's usually a tradition you're going to speak with your neighboring leader
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first thing once you you know biggest trading partner he takes 80 of your stuff yeah it seems
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to me you know i'm trying to go back when trump first got elected didn't he kind of offer a
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middle finger to canada and he met with the president of mexico first when usually it used
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to be canada so i think that was uh w oh there's this w's from texas uh you know there are little
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diplomatic snubs and games that get played too and every side does it to a degree but yeah it's
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just carny i mean well again it's as bad as trump in some senses if you're going to speak in vague
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terms we can't get things done like you've got to start laying down what these regulations are
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trump won't say what the damn tariffs are carney's well you know i support pipes but i don't and i
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yeah you know another weird thing uh and i saw it on an american news network and i believe it
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might have been cnbc carney is regurgitating these old french sovereignty slogans in english during
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his speeches something about uh being strong from the living room or something apparently
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it's a literal translation of a french sovereignty slogan that goes like way back to the 1950s oh
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nice yeah and i had to watch american tv to figure that out that he's talking out of both sides of
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his face well that's been an interesting thing too though with our uh domestic legacy outlets have
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They cut off Pierre mid-sentence today on the CBC.
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You know, Jen's scribbling down the quote, and it's like, what?
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I mean, some of it's a field, I guess, that Polyev ceded.
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I mean, when he said pretty clearly, I get in, I'm going to defund the CBC,
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they were pretty well-motivated in making sure he doesn't, you know.
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I mean, the CBC weren't going to throw him any love even.
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Well, apparently Paliyev is putting up an online ad on a CBC platform like every 15 seconds.
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So you're like, oh, okay, you're going to defund the CBC after you've spent how much on advertising, you know, supporting them during an election.
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This is our world, but I mean, he needs to reach it.
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That's been part of the issue going on, too, is it's the older people that are suddenly going back to the love affair with liberals and the younger people aren't.
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They're getting that view that cuts off people like Pauly have made a sentence
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and says Prime Minister Carney ten times an hour,
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whereas young people are watching streaming media
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You know, it seems to me too, and that thought kind of hit me
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and might be a bit of an aside, but really this liberal vote
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was a conservative vote, right, because it's a scare vote.
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And so they're almost willing to park it with, uh, I don't, I don't know if it's a vote for Kearney, you know, I think it's kind of a vote for a status quo.
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I mean, liberals have been in power for like, what, uh, you know, 75 of the last hundred years, you know, they tend to be.
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And I mean, I wrote that in my column last week in a sense to the, you know, when there's a threat from outside, you know, an external threat, people rally around the leadership and even if they didn't like them, but they said, we'll set aside the differences until that's done.
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and you know in the meantime we need to be all unified unfortunately that leadership rally is
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in the middle of a federal election right so well and i mean uh he's been in charge of the party
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what a week so i mean like basically everybody that was there before like the whole cast and crew
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you know that dragged trudeau down i mean like regardless of whatever you think of trudeau i
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mean he did not have a very strong bench you know on the it's like the oilers when you've
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only got dry saddle and mcdavid the same circus they just changed the ringmaster
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yeah the clowns are all the same you haven't had any chance to really go back in there and kind of
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fix the issues that were in the party for the last six seven years right which makes the outcome
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bleak but we will see i guess carney has not really articulated a single policy no well other
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than the emissions cap which wasn't his he's being big works for him he's willing to do it
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yeah all right well we'll let you get back to your desk and finding more uh business
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soon great that's great thanks yeah there's our business and energy reporter uh sean pulser and
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yeah he's always covering lots and getting some of those scoops and and it has a big been a big
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story you know the pipelines is carney supporting him is he not does he support c69 well no apparently
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not uh joe mills pointing out you know i saying i'm 67 i've always voted conservative yeah not
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every older person is uh suddenly swinging uh liberal these days but a lot of them are the
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demographic i mean used to be traditionally when you look at the vote breakdowns it tended to be
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the younger people tended to go a little more progressive and the older people tended to stick
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conservative i know for being at a lot of meetings reform party meetings back when i was a young
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person with my nice mullet uh i was the baby in the room in those places i mean among the gray hair
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and and uh geritol and it's changed it's shifted and it's different it's weird and uh joe also
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pointing out saying hoping the election turnout is massive yeah i mean we always want that for
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for the sake of democracy. But again, remember, you know, and another commenter, Fah Q, it looks
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like, oh, geez, you got me on that one. Nice. I'm going to read out the commenter's names without
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being careful. Either way, I need to get out the youth vote. And yeah, that's a hard thing. That's
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always been a challenge. It's been a challenge for progressives that the youth vote are also
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the hardest ones to get out to vote. So that's why often conservatives are overrepresented or
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underrepresented in polls in the sense that oh the poll shows 44% would vote conservative and then
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the election comes along and it turns out 53% voted. Well the difference was if you're pulling
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everybody across the demographics the older folks are far more inclined to get up and go vote and
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they traditionally were with the conservatives. The younger ones who would speak out but oh geez
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there's a good concert on that night or there's a party down the road or or whatever they're much
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more easily distracted much less inclined to take the time and trouble and go out to vote it's just
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the way it is you know those stats can be proven out just for for electoral turnout it's not a
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matter of bias so but it doesn't bode well now when the conservatives are are apparently doing
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better with uh uh younger people than older I mean they want to do well with everybody but you
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get more strength out of uh getting those those uh older voters out and uh this you know here's
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an interesting point made and I've said this before uh from Dieter my most annoying yet he
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makes good points on x and so on and he has a sense of humor which I can respect he still piss
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me off at times too but all the same he said I'd love to have a progressive conservative and a
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reform party again on the right side of the aisle uh he says Pierre is an empty suit and I have to
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wonder who's filling it. I'm a little more optimistic about Pierre, but something I have
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said before, and it's true. One of the most conservative governments we ever had actually
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was the Jean Chrétien government with the reform opposition breathing down his neck.
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I mean, it was, you know, Chrétien and Martin balanced the budget. And we've got to remember
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that was riding a wave of everybody balancing the budget back then. We were still very high
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interest rates compared to now, but people were sick of debts. They wanted to see them paid down.
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I think the Conservatives could have done better, but whatever.
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It was definitely a Conservative government at its time.
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And, you know, Roy Romano also, as an NDP, managed to balance the budget in Saskatchewan.
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You know where I'm looking at things and going, and I'm frustrated.
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As I said in the opening monologue, I got a feeling.
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And as well as, again, after all this, if we get a liberal, particularly a liberal majority,
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we're going to see a flare-up of independent sentiment like we haven't seen since the 80s.
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I mean, it's like Sean was talking about, it's like Dave was talking about.
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Sure, Carney's a new person, but it's all the same people around him.
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it's all the main core planks and policies why do you expect something to change this government
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was so bad you were barely willing to you know one in five people willing to support the liberals
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only a few weeks ago and suddenly almost half are ready to take it on again i mean you do feel like
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you know the the person who's abused in a relationship when the the abuser comes crawling
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back i promise i've changed i've difference this time and then okay i'll take you back well guys
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they don't change. You've got to change the person. And in this case, you've got to change
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more than the person. You've got to change the party. That's kind of what I was talking about
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in my monologue. We accept that the vast majority of years in Canada are governed by federal liberal
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governments. You know, they're the natural governing party. That's who Central Canada
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loves, and that's the way our system works, and that's where the population is. We're going to
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get a predominantly liberal set of governments. But we need to cycle them out now and then.
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It's the only thing that keeps us sane, keeps us in business a little bit.
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And if we're looking at 10 more years of these jackasses,
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no, the West is not going to be thrilled with this at all.
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It's not like the rest of the country has to be wagged by the Western tail,
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You know, Laurie Carter, bringing another point,
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Carter isn't new, he's been involved for years, exactly.
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I mean, there's a picture I used in my column last week,
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You know, showing Trudeau and Carney sitting together on a stage back in 2017, I believe it was.
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We know that Trudeau wasn't exactly a deep economic thinker or a deep thinker on much of anything.
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The deepest he'd get in thinking is trying to spell words in his alphabet cereal when he's watching the Saturday morning cartoons when his maids brought it in for him.
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and that ideology hurts the West badly and look at it look at things falling apart I was looking
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forward to getting a Mr. Carboneau on I hope I can get him you know with some of the things
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the corporate welfare and hey conservatives are guilty of it too I loathe corporate welfare on
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all levels and Alberta did it brutally with MagCan and Novotel and a number of things conservative
00:38:52.980
governments pouring billions of tax dollars into business ventures that almost always go bust
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because it's crony capitalism, it's garbage, and they rip you off.
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Well, we have that now with battery plants out east, a cricket plant, as I said,
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That's not going to change once Carney gets in.
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That's the reason you've got to flush the pipes.
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You've got to clean them out and get some fresh faces.
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Everybody talks like it's going to be the end of the world
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when one government gets in or another gets in.
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The reality is in Canada, the conservatives and the liberals
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are not extremely far apart they're pragmatists once they get in and they'll shift to where they
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think needs things need to go and they can both be prone to some inside dealing I mean again the
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Mulroney government towards the end was getting pretty ugly with some of those Airbus and other
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affairs going on Chrétien government Trudeau government and that's why you've got to change
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them out now and then so if we don't change out the liberals this time it's going to be bad no not
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just for the west it's going to be for canada and there's stuff with brookfield yeah what's this
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brookfield entities registered to bermuda building that houses a bike shop like it's it's old politics
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tied into the government crony capitalism and it's bad for us all over the place we're gonna see
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what's happening and that's why again you know we see media it's it's in a place of flux right
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legacy media is dying it's nowhere near where it used to be and outlets like ours are rising we're
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doing all right thanks to you guys again subscribing and advertising and bringing on
00:40:26.820
models where we're streamlined we can do these things on a better budget than other outlets can
00:40:32.540
i mean there's shortcomings with smaller outlets and things too but that's the nature of it now
00:40:37.180
subsidies have been pouring into the legacy outlets and they know that if anybody's going
00:40:41.280
to cut those subsidies it's going to be polyhuff so yeah they've got an inherent need to keep the
00:40:49.680
liberals in power particularly cbc which already wasn't exactly conservative friendly to begin with
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and then looking at some of these things just a side note a little bit of a circus politics
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because it did get a lot of clicks as part of the fun it's clickbait there's the risks with
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smaller outlets okay you're more inclined to jump into some of those smaller issues and try and grab
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those clicks but for folks Rachel Gilmore an interesting character online the progressive
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blowhard she had a you know somewhat promising looking potential career as a reporter with
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global but she kind of messed things up and blew that and got them sued got fired moved on to a
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couple of other places got canned from those but she's very outspoken and polarizing and stirs folks
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up online a lot and she managed to get herself another job she got on with ctv as a fact checker
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a fact checker now this is a consequence getting back on to uh uh the trump administration from
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years ago i mean politicians have always been full of crap we know that that's nothing new to us
00:41:54.040
but he really brought it to a whole new level he he really hit new heights in in in bsing and
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some people with supporters just shrug it off. Oh, Trump just says things. Well, yeah, but I don't
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want people in such positions of power to so quickly lie to us on things. So it led to fact
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checking happening in a lot of media outlets and honest media outlets. If they'd have a debate,
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they would show, you know, the Democrat versus the Republican. And if it was Trump, I mean,
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the Democrat would lie 12 times in the debate and Trump would lie 50 times or something. They're
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both lying, just one more than others. So either way, it brought about this whole role. I'll get
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to where it went there Jacqueline yeah with a commenter I'm responding to said that CTV let
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Gilmore go and that's the truth you want to start looking at these politicians because a lot of them
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started taking on BSing and media outlets want to actually just check and say well is what they're
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saying true and give a list so it's a good segment you should have a segment fine where you're going
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to check the facts of what the politicians said but if you're going to have somebody in that role
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they should be the most balanced impartial reporter you've got they should be somebody
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who's just looking at checking the facts and trying to clarify and present those.
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Rachel Gilmore was not that. She's hyper-partisan. She heavily, heavily attacks the conservatives
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at every possible opportunity. She's been caught in full BS, including even with myself,
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when she lied online because she was putting in complaints about a podcast I appeared on.
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She said, I never emailed the Western Standard. Then I posted the email she'd sent to the
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Western Standard. Oh, well, yeah, man, we should fact check you. Hey, Rachel. Either way, CTV fired
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her after one episode. Yes, she made it through one episode. Now, what was CTV thinking in hiring
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her in the first place, though? Why, if you were going to have the role of fact checking, did you
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pick up somebody so biased and so polarizing? I would be just as bad in that position. Why?
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Because I'm an opinion guy. I've been putting opinions out and stirring things up and I've got
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my own personal bias which is part of being an opinion writer having an opinion show thus I'm
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inappropriate for that role. It doesn't mean I have no role I just don't have a role as a fact
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checker. Yet some luminaries at CBC thought it was a smart idea to put Rachel Gilmore in that role.
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What the hell were you clowns thinking? Welcome again to watching Legacy Media kick itself in
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the nuts. Either way she made it through one episode. Rachel looks bad out of this. CTV looks
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bad out of this she's online playing martyr and and a victim and so on saying it was cancel culture
00:44:23.440
that got her fired after one episode of the show that wasn't the case i mean some people were pretty
00:44:28.500
crabby when they discovered she's going to be on as a fact checker on ctv but it wasn't cancel
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culture it was somebody in ctv probably looking at and scratching their head saying what you put
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her where i mean come on guys uh wind uh winter's gray just to final wrap things up a bit why should
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we have to have fact checkers. If you report the truth, you shouldn't have to. Where's their
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morals? How sad. Well, it's not, well, the media has got to be fact checked sometimes on a lot of
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things as well and so on. No, ideally we shouldn't have to have people fact checking politicians
00:45:01.440
and breaking it down. The default should be the truth out of politicians, but that comes down to
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that woulda, coulda, shoulda. What's the old saying? And I'm probably going to brutalize it,
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paraphrasing you know a lie gets halfway around the world before the truth even gets its pants
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on or something like that or even gets out of bed so politicians have learned it's just easier to
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bs and people will believe your untrue point uh and you've done the damage is done even if the
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retraction comes later right remember when there's bs in the media yeah big headline on something
00:45:34.540
like that and the retraction's gonna be way back at the paper a little paragraph oh sorry that was
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incorrect. It doesn't always happen, but it does happen. Either way, crazy times. We've got a lot
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of election ahead of us. Tune into the pipeline tonight. There's going to be a panel of me and
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Nigel and Derek, and we'll cover a few more issues as they come up. The other shows are coming.
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Nigel has his, Sean's going to got another show coming up. We're really expanding our digital
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broadcasts this Friday at 11. I'm going to be on for another couple of hours live, mostly on a
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federal election focus again, and we'll cover some more issues and have some more guests. So
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thank you very much for tuning in today guys i really appreciate it
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yell at me on x if you want to yell further and i will see you all on friday