00:14:40.200that there are a lot of people that felt that that was wrong
00:14:43.640and they're sticking their heels in and not making it any easier.
00:14:48.020But the government's still been able to go through and get a doctor's deal done.
00:14:52.980There was an announcement recently about recruiting more surgeons.
00:14:57.000Now, I don't know if the surgeon backlog is what's going to alleviate surgery times or if it's physical space.
00:15:05.000You mentioned, you know, the kind of red herring situation that is the premier having a catastrophic increase in population come to Alberta.
00:15:15.920And so she's got challenges there that I don't think people will ever be able to equate to empathy or sympathy for not getting their own access.
00:15:26.700And like I said, I don't think it's appropriate to rush what immigration looks like in hopes that that could potentially address wait times or access to care or public dollars going towards health care and education.
00:15:40.600And so there's some things that they're just going to have to live with and have to be prepared to defend going into the next election and have, you know, proof points as much as they can.
00:15:54.780But there are some things that they just didn't get fully accomplished, which they have to continue to tell that vision and that story and kind of ignore the people that are still within the system digging their heels in.
00:16:07.980Because that's always going to be the case when you have robust change.
00:16:11.560There's going to be people that are constantly trying to validate that they were right and this change was not needed.
00:16:17.480Erica, let's talk about the upcoming convention.
00:16:20.560Party chairman Bob Smith says there will be no leadership review before the election next year,
00:16:27.140but with several factions, you know, sore losers, separatists,
00:16:30.960people who thought the referendum should never have been held and so on.
00:16:35.240The upcoming AGM still isn't going to be a cakewalk for her.
00:16:39.960Where do you see trouble coming from for Premier Smith?
00:16:44.780Well, if I was just looking at what I would deem success coming out,
00:16:48.780if I was the premier or the leader of the party,
00:22:31.720and so many people I know are not happy.
00:22:34.920The ratios are interestingly and remarkably consistent.
00:22:38.720About one quarter voted for independence.
00:22:42.640About one quarter did not take the COVID vaccine, and about one quarter of Albertans own firearms that are affected by the liberal gun bans, etc.
00:22:54.280Put it another way, about three quarters of the population in Alberta listen to mainstream media, believe the narrative, believe in the liberal vision for Canada, the CBC and so on.
00:23:08.180and they're still hanging on to the old system that served them so well,
00:23:17.000But I believe, my writer says, that if you poll the separatists,
00:23:22.120more than half would say that they never took the vaccine,
00:23:25.740and many would have lost their jobs during COVID
00:23:29.380or were harmed in some way, shape, or form.
00:23:35.160And while I understand that nobody wants to talk about this,
00:23:37.700I believe it's a primary reason why many wish to separate, as it remains an unheralded, festering wound that nobody wants to acknowledge as an issue.
00:23:49.800Instead, the talk is all about pipelines and equalization, which, while important, I believe are secondary to the lockdowns, mandates, firearms, and wokeism, Marxism, and so on.
00:24:02.900what do you say when so much of that seems intuitively plausible yeah i mean i i think
00:24:13.780that they're completely entitled to their opinion i haven't really looked at it that way um and i
00:24:19.240would say i check some of those boxes that he listed i don't check some of them so i don't
00:24:23.780think we can lump the entire group i think there's also people you have to remember that it was
00:24:28.180option two, you were voting to have the conversation on independence or separation,
00:24:32.980you weren't necessarily saying that you support it. And I think that of that 25, 26%, there's a
00:24:40.000few percentage points of people that, you know, we're more of the, I want to keep holding Ottawa's
00:24:45.640feet to the fire in getting a fair deal. And I think that in that fair deal, a lot of people
00:24:53.100would look beyond covid um and the reason i say that is because you can't go back and fix it
00:24:59.980uh and you can only learn from it so when the next pandemic happens i think that's where
00:25:05.180there's going to be a lot more skepticism and and push to reverse action of what we what we saw um
00:25:13.020but i don't know that i think that that would equate to the numbers maybe the writer is
00:25:17.820attributing to it rather that it is a soft like a a position that many people still feel is close
00:25:26.140to their hearts because it impacted them so directly and they're still carrying that and
00:25:30.540that's totally fair i do also think that when we watched premier smith during her leadership run
00:25:37.820she was speaking of those issues she was speaking about giving a voice to those that didn't feel
00:25:42.700that they had a voice. She brought lots of people into the UCP tent or the conservative tent
00:25:51.260that felt that way and were angry at the federal government for that piece of their freedom.
00:25:57.580But I think it's evolved beyond that and more towards the other pieces that the writer mentions
00:26:04.860and it is about pipelines and equalization and we're now here to stay. Let's fight for what we
00:26:10.780can. And I mean, this government has done a lot to combat wokeism, DEI, you know, get freedom of
00:26:17.880speech back in universities and classrooms and, you know, not having any flags besides Alberta and
00:26:25.460Canada within our school system. You know, I think that there's a lot of curriculum reform,
00:26:32.660like there's a lot that they've done to, I think, combat a lot of the narrative that we were all
00:26:37.060very, very sick of during the same time as COVID.
00:26:41.160See, now, Erica, everybody's going to say,
00:26:42.960what kind of people does Nigel Hannaford hang out with?