Western Standard - Triggered： Breaking down the Western Standard’s UCP leadership debate

00:00:00.000 Thank you.

00:00:30.000 good morning it's wednesday august 10th 2022 and welcome to triggered i'm cory morgan this is the

00:00:39.500 western standards daily live opinion news discussion ranting show i do this monday to

00:00:46.120 friday 11 30 until roughly around one o'clock and uh we have a good time typically uh so i'm

00:00:52.740 looking at the comments scroll seeing some folks checking in already uh make sure to make use of

00:00:57.520 that you know that's the whole point of doing a live show being able to hear from you guys interact

00:01:01.380 see some of that conversation and what's going on out there send me ideas thoughts critique that's

00:01:07.240 fine but keep it polite that's always the hard part or you know it doesn't even have to be that

00:01:11.080 polite but just civil to a degree that it doesn't turn into a big scrap it's always great to see

00:01:15.460 all checking in from all across the country they're all the way from louise out nova scotia

00:01:19.680 and another fella in ottawa there we get to cover people across this country even though we are the

00:01:25.980 western standard that tends to be a western focused thing of course. So I'm Melissa out in

00:01:32.060 Newfoundland. I love seeing all that. All right guys so let's see I'll start with a couple of

00:01:35.720 observations as usual though. You got to know what to celebrate today and what to do and what's

00:01:39.420 important you know. It's National Lazy Day. So this is a particular holiday that stands out for

00:01:46.060 you know government civil servants, substitute school teachers, people such as that. This is

00:01:51.500 the day to kick back and just make excuses for not doing things and not do things. Lay

00:01:57.420 around, celebrate your sloth. Why not? So it is National Lazy Day. We'll probably see

00:02:03.560 people celebrating and observing it all over. I know there's a lot of people who celebrate

00:02:07.380 this one 365 days a year, but this is the one day of the year where it's apparently to

00:02:12.020 be observed and more celebrated. So when you see them sitting on their butt, you know what

00:02:15.700 it was about, right? It was just a one-off, right? All right. It's also, this is one I

00:02:19.720 can take part in. Spoil your dog day. Though again, I don't need necessarily a special day

00:02:24.660 for me to do that. I spoil those hairballs in my house, whether I need to be told to by a national

00:02:30.620 day or not. They live on a diet of shoes and disposable couches that Jane and I buy. But all

00:02:37.820 the same, hey, if you haven't been paying enough attention to that fur creature in your house,

00:02:42.740 today's the day to take a little extra time and spoil them, wrap it up, put some cucumbers on

00:02:46.740 its eyes like that, things like that, and make sure your puppy knows it's loved. Then you can

00:02:53.000 just ignore them the rest of the time. No, you shouldn't. You should spoil your dogs all the

00:02:56.640 time, like I do. If you're going to have one, treat them right. Let's see, Arthur Green saying,

00:03:01.960 Newfoundland is not Disneyland, Corey. Yes, well, it isn't, no, but I've heard it's got a lot of

00:03:07.840 entertaining aspects to it. All right, so we've got a couple of good guests on today. David

00:03:12.000 Millard Haskell. He's a social scientist and university professor out in Waterloo. I got to

00:03:16.780 check that in the description. And we're going to talk about critical race theory and some of the

00:03:20.680 battles going on in Ontario schools and school boards. This basically ideology is really getting

00:03:27.080 shoved in. It's been an American thing, but it's coming up here as well. And it's really dividing

00:03:31.560 a lot of people and causing a lot of angst. So it'll be a good discussion. And then Western

00:03:36.020 Standard columnist David Creighton is going to come on and we're going to talk about his last

00:03:40.480 few columns. He mostly writes on all things Ottawa and, of course, Trudeau, Polyev, all that sort of

00:03:46.380 stuff. He's got a lot of opinions in that opinion section of the Western Standard. So for today's

00:03:51.320 ramble, what I got to go on about, yes, is reviewing last night's UCP frontrunners debate

00:03:56.520 that was held at the rooftop YYC pub downtown here in Calgary. I was given the task of sitting

00:04:03.620 there with a timer and a sheet, so I wasn't terribly much of a visible part of it, but I like

00:04:09.280 to think it was Integro. So to start with, the venue, though, was awesome. If you haven't been

00:04:15.020 there, it's essentially a large rooftop greenhouse in downtown Calgary. There are bars on each side

00:04:19.620 of a big, long space with a food section in the back, and it makes for efficient service despite

00:04:24.640 the place being packed, and it was with attendees. It's a unique spot, and I'd highly recommend it

00:04:30.240 to folks if they're having a pint in downtown Calgary. Check it out. It's a good place.

00:04:35.060 The stage, though, was somewhat small, and that's part of the reason that we limited the debate to three contenders.

00:04:40.820 It's perfect for a band, but it would never have accommodated seven people spread out in debate format.

00:04:45.160 The only other downside was the occasional ambulances passing by and interrupting the debate.

00:04:50.100 With all of us being essentially inside a giant tent, you do get a lot of peripheral noise from the outside.

00:04:55.480 I mean, to pat our own backs, though, the debate went great.

00:04:58.280 Aside from moderator Derek Fildebrand getting a little mixed up in assigning the opening statements,

00:05:02.180 He maintained flow and order during the affair excellently, and it was very engaging.

00:05:06.500 It was a good watch.

00:05:07.800 There were no weird gimmicks, no sad trombones, no intervention cards.

00:05:12.040 Questions were presented, and occasional extra rebuttals were allowed when a candidate, one had singled out another.

00:05:18.300 While there were some shots fired, I think things remained relatively civil between the candidates, actually.

00:05:23.500 I know it feels unfair to exclude four out of seven candidates in an event like this,

00:05:27.620 But there can be no doubt that having only the presumptive top three in the stage made for a much better debate than the official party won, including all seven candidates when they did that.

00:05:37.980 It allowed for more questions and direct discourse to be covered.

00:05:40.880 Now, with independent polling, let's cover it one more time.

00:05:43.520 Brian Jean, Daniel Smith, and Travis Tays all are well beyond the remaining four candidates in support among the members.

00:05:50.460 Nothing's impossible, but it's very unlikely any of the remaining contenders are going to fill that gap.

00:05:55.760 Todd Owen was in attendance.

00:05:56.960 He was there last night.

00:05:57.700 I chatted with him.

00:05:58.460 And he was certainly well-received by everybody.

00:06:00.860 And when the subject of his ejection from caucus came up in the debate,

00:06:03.960 all of the candidates on the stage made it clear he'd be welcome back.

00:06:06.440 Though they did make it clear they're also going to leave that to the caucus to decide.

00:06:10.340 And Todd's a congenial, smart man.

00:06:12.480 And if a fourth candidate would have been added to the mix, he would have fit in quite well.

00:06:17.340 All three candidates, they presented themselves well and solidly.

00:06:22.560 I mean, I didn't really feel that any single one stood out, not like that first debate anyways, and could be considered an outright winner.

00:06:28.780 In the room, it was clear, I mean, in reading the room, the supporters were dominated, the room was dominated by Daniel Smith supporters.

00:06:35.540 I mean, there were cheers and occasional boos, and again, it was typically cheers for Smith and boos for anybody being contrary to her.

00:06:42.540 But Taves and Jean were both very well represented with supporters in the room as well.

00:06:47.520 Now, in the official party debate in Medicine Hat,

00:06:50.700 Smith was the clear target as she sustained attacks from every candidate.

00:06:54.700 And last night's debate, I thought it was more Travis Taves who was more on the defensive.

00:06:58.460 I mean, he's the clear establishment candidate.

00:07:00.860 He was facing off against basically two party outsiders.

00:07:04.120 It was a tough line to straddle.

00:07:05.120 Taves has to distance himself from the UCP actions that led to the ousting of Kenny,

00:07:10.020 while he's also been a senior cabinet minister during those years.

00:07:13.560 Now, being a Western standard debate, Ottawa versus Alberta, the theme was, of course, dominant.

00:07:19.240 All candidates, of course, agreed that Alberta is getting a raw deal in Confederation and it needs to change.

00:07:24.320 Smith stuck to and continued to defend her proposed Sovereignty Act,

00:07:27.660 calling for the province to refuse to cooperate with any federal actions or policies that might be detrimental to Alberta.

00:07:32.940 Brian Jean used the word autonomy generously, and that's the main theme of his campaign.

00:07:38.280 And he often expressed we need constitutional reform in Canada

00:07:41.540 and felt it could be achieved through the courts.

00:07:43.540 He often made legal references and reminded the crowd a lot of his background in law.

00:07:49.600 Taves took an approach embracing more negotiation and compromise.

00:07:52.680 Again, that middle of the road, more of the same old as we've done,

00:07:56.380 maybe strongly worded letters.

00:07:57.980 He spoke on how things can be improved, though, by working with other provinces

00:08:00.460 to bring about more united front when it comes to battle with Ottawa.

00:08:04.700 Part of unity, that discussion got tough.

00:08:07.100 And that's where Smith was taken to task by both Gene and Taves for disastrous floor crossing in 2014 that arguably led to the four-year term over the Rachel Notley government the following year.

00:08:18.240 Gene and Taves didn't have the easiest job in presenting themselves as unifiers either, though.

00:08:23.920 Taves is the establishment candidate in a party that just kicked out its own leader.

00:08:28.060 And Gene took part in an extended campaign to encourage the ejection of that leader.

00:08:31.460 I mean, he fostered a lot of division.

00:08:33.220 It's easier to tear a party apart than to unify it.

00:08:35.480 So whoever wins the race is going to have their work cut out for them.

00:08:38.280 Now, firearms, health care, self-defense, free press, and abortion, yeah, it was covered, were all debated as well.

00:08:43.880 I'm not going to break down into all of those or take up the whole show.

00:08:46.940 What I will conclude is with stating it was a very good debate with a lot of ground covered.

00:08:51.220 If a person's undecided in this race, they can get a really clear picture in watching that debate of where the top three contenders stand on the issues.

00:08:58.500 So the debate is in full. It's fully available on all of the Western Standard social media channels, and I suggest taking the time to watch it when you can.

00:09:05.480 It's an enjoyable watch, and even as one cynical political watcher told me,

00:09:09.320 she was surprised it was a two-hour debate.

00:09:11.540 The time actually flew by because it was engaging as opposed to being more droning

00:09:17.620 than a lot of other past debates could be.

00:09:19.280 So check it out on the YouTube channel, the Facebook.

00:09:22.020 We have it on Rumble.

00:09:22.940 We streamed it everywhere, guys, and it'll help you make up your mind,

00:09:26.700 at least among those three candidates, on who you may want to support.

00:09:30.600 All right, let's get on to the other person who was sitting around there

00:09:32.920 covering that debate all night, and that was Dave Naylor,

00:09:34.780 our news editor how's it going dave oh it was good good cory it was a fun night you were you

00:09:40.140 know you're the best timekeeper i ever saw you you held up that yellow sheet and then you held

00:09:45.620 up the red sheet and you gave it a bit of a shake and wow do you ever have those candidates under

00:09:50.280 control thanks i spent a lot of time rehearsing you know i was sitting around in the parking lot

00:09:55.020 outside i kind of freaked people out wondering what i was doing out there but uh i'm glad it

00:09:59.020 paid off excellent well we've got a we're gonna have a whole bunch of uh follow-up stories coming

00:10:05.520 from that debate uh derek asked a whole bunch of questions on on different sections and we're

00:10:12.220 gonna have roundup stories uh hopefully with video clips of uh of each question and what the

00:10:17.940 candidates said and yeah it was certainly a fun lively debate uh even uh other media who said it

00:10:25.400 was the the best debate they've seen during during the campaign so that was nice to see

00:10:31.540 other stuff going on today our mike thomas is uh has got a call him up there at the moment saying

00:10:38.380 he's fed up with lying uh politicians who lie about even their lies so he's suggesting we bring

00:10:45.500 in a program to license politicians you know you have to have a car license you have to have a gun

00:10:50.820 license but you don't need any kind of license to run for public office and uh excuse me mike

00:10:57.560 mike says that that should change a bit maybe uh let him take a few political science courses and

00:11:02.620 and uh you know blown up on what politics is all about uh other stuff the danish government has

00:11:09.780 announced an end to covid vaccinations for anyone under 18 the government says uh children are not

00:11:16.640 really at risk for getting serious illness from COVID. So they've stopped any sort of vaccination

00:11:23.360 program. One of those separate stories I mentioned is always already up there on the website. And

00:11:30.080 that's what the UCP candidates said about the Liberals' gun grab and how they've now banned

00:11:35.380 handguns and they're coming for every other gun. So we've got a story up there already from Arthur

00:11:40.540 on what the three candidates are going to do to try and stop that. We've also got a Creighton

00:11:45.980 column and another political story out of Ottawa, a poll showing Polyev is the most popular

00:11:54.160 Conservative leadership candidate amongst Conservatives. But with the rest of Canada,

00:12:00.140 it's Jean Charest. So it's just another question of, I guess, Polyev's electability in a general

00:12:08.620 election. So a busy, busy day, Corey, already lots of other stories on the site for a reader's

00:12:15.240 perusal and a whole mess of them to come this afternoon right on well always lots to look

00:12:21.420 forward to i'll let you get hammering back at it and it was kind of late for all of us last night

00:12:25.460 so a little groggy today working on it but uh yeah i think i may have a nap at my desk while

00:12:30.180 you're gone well it is lazy day so this is the day to do it there you go right on thanks dave

00:12:35.720 that is our news editor dave nailer hard at it there and uh yes lots of coverage stories coming

00:12:41.980 out is they're still working on kind of breaking down and figuring out what happened to that debate

00:12:46.680 and who said what as well we've got reporters across the country writing stuff on all sorts

00:12:52.560 of issues and our columnists like he mentioned dave craden he's going to be on a little later

00:12:56.280 and i noticed arthur green commenting in the comment scroll he's our alberta writer he wrote

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00:13:55.040 do appreciate it here. So let's see. Looking a little further on to some of that day of laziness,

00:14:00.560 the day to celebrate it. And here we see a part-time senator has been getting work. You know,

00:14:04.980 these senators, I kind of celebrated them because they have been holding the government to account,

00:14:08.560 at least some of them. There's been some Senate committees and some critique and good things

00:14:14.060 happening out there. But then, of course, there's some of them, there's just the lazy appointed

00:14:18.420 bums that we've known them well for. I don't know if people remember Andy Thompson that much. You

00:14:24.680 know, it's a bit of a blast in the past, but back in the 90s, he was actually in Mexico for most of

00:14:29.640 his time in the Senate. He would only show up for a couple of days a year, just a bare minimum. Of

00:14:33.900 course, he's collecting six figures, a massive pension. And boy, he was indignant when he finally

00:14:38.120 got called out on it. I mean, he felt he was upset. How dare you guys question me on this?

00:14:42.360 This one sounds interesting. This is a liberal senator, you know, and they call them independent

00:14:46.660 senators. Trudeau called it that. He says, they're independent. They're not really party anymore.

00:14:50.560 That's not true. They answer to the guy who appointed him. And this is a liberal senator,

00:14:55.400 Sarebjeet Marwoff. He's from Ontario. So he's already making his good Senate coin there.

00:15:01.900 but also he's a director with onyx corporation and uh he's uh didn't disclose what his director's

00:15:08.280 fees were with there but some of his filings did show uh some of the money he's made i mean

00:15:13.060 he's with cineplex as a director as well so he's got so much extra time he can do all these

00:15:17.860 directorships uh while he's a full-time senator apparently too well as the story says it's part

00:15:22.800 time obviously if you're gonna do that on the side there's nothing saying they can't you know

00:15:26.540 because, you know, they got the extra time. Let's get out there and do it. So he drew in 2022 or

00:15:32.560 2020, $341,000 in fees. This is on top of his money made as a senator, as a director for Cineplex

00:15:41.400 and George Weston. He also, I guess in 2019, he did resign one at TELUS where he was making 228

00:15:49.380 a year. And this is all stuff on top of what he's making as a senator. Man, what a multitasker this

00:15:58.240 guy is. He obviously, because he's serving Canadians so well in the Senate and so efficiently

00:16:03.240 that he can do all this stuff on the side, make hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars

00:16:06.400 there. And then you got to wonder why, why would a corporation want to pay hundreds of thousands

00:16:11.060 of dollars to have somebody serving on a board if they're so busy at the Senate? It's almost like

00:16:16.400 maybe they're thinking they could be buying some goodwill from the liberal party, doesn't it?

00:16:20.780 Yes, our system is broken and it's ugly in many ways. And, you know, there's no accountability.

00:16:26.100 There's no way to get rid of this clown. All we can do is expose him. He's appointed. He's

00:16:29.900 appointed until I don't know what mandatory retirement is in the Senate, 100 or something,

00:16:33.980 or it seems like it. There is an age of 75 or 80 or something like that. But we can't, you know,

00:16:40.080 it's not like four-year terms or anything else. Again, it always astounded when I used to work

00:16:44.520 in the states and talk to americans about you know senator in the states is that's a very powerful

00:16:48.760 political position i mean there's only two senators for every state whether it's wyoming or new york

00:16:54.260 and it really helps balance things you know between that regional and population split there

00:16:59.240 and they're elected of course i mean they're not their services or system is perfect by any means

00:17:05.340 but at least they're elected and an american citizen has a chance to campaign against and

00:17:10.840 vote against these guys or for whatever they want. In Canada, they are appointed. We hold our

00:17:14.620 elections in Alberta, but of course the Liberals just ignore whoever we choose. And these guys

00:17:19.740 are appointed not just, you know, for short terms, they're appointed for life. And the Americans,

00:17:23.300 how can that possibly, that's not democratic, that's insane. Yes, yes it is. That's the Canadian

00:17:28.600 system. The Senate really is kind of pointless. I mean, it's supposed to be there, theoretically,

00:17:33.740 again, to balance, you know, you've got the House of Commons, it's based on population,

00:17:37.060 somewhat, except for exceptions made for Quebec, because they whined the loudest.

00:17:42.180 And the Senate, which should balance that, doesn't at all. I mean, it's massively stacked 0.87

00:17:48.060 for the eastern half of the country. They aren't elected. And some of them, as with this guy,

00:17:53.260 is ineffective. This is, for those of us who may remember the Reform Party days,

00:17:58.640 the Triple E Senate was the big call. You know, it was elected, effective, and what the hell was

00:18:04.960 the other one why am i forgetting efficient i think yes or no man why am i forgetting one of

00:18:10.660 the e's in the triple e i'm losing my mind today elected efficient oh equal yes of course so that

00:18:16.020 that's so many senators per province we never got any of those things and one would hope if you had

00:18:20.920 them elected you'd kind of get some of the effective no matter what because then they

00:18:24.060 actually have to answer to somebody and an equal thing well that would take constitutional reform

00:18:28.860 you know that was some interesting things from the uh debate last night as i said uh everybody

00:18:33.940 to kind of agree that Canada's broken.

00:18:36.460 Jean kept saying we have to open the Constitution.

00:18:38.820 It's the only way to fix things,

00:18:40.560 but we can do it through the courts.

00:18:41.740 Okay, fair enough.

00:18:42.180 But he was saying Daniel Smith's and others

00:18:43.480 who are playing with the Sovereignty Act

00:18:45.580 won't work because it clashes with the Constitution.

00:18:47.460 Well, everything does.

00:18:49.800 So, I mean, maybe that's the catalyst.

00:18:51.580 I mean, we've got to have something.

00:18:52.520 We've got to smack against that constitutional wall

00:18:54.460 before we can start talking about ripping it open.

00:18:58.240 Tabes, though, feels we can work within the Constitution.

00:19:00.560 Look, the Constitution of Canada is broken and it stinks.

00:19:03.540 I don't know what's going to change it.

00:19:04.960 Well, I know what's going to change it.

00:19:06.000 It's going to take a province actually becoming independent or becoming very close to it.

00:19:09.740 Until then, all we can do is tweak within this broken, rotten, stacked system

00:19:13.700 that basically funnels the resources and power towards central Canada

00:19:17.240 and treats the outward regions as colonies.

00:19:20.880 But we can discuss, and, you know, people are afraid of big change.

00:19:23.860 And, you know, we just have to keep pressing and doing what we can with it.

00:19:29.880 and hopefully we can get some progress towards, I guess, a better provincial government when the

00:19:36.500 time comes. So again, before I get on to the next guest, I just want to remind everybody,

00:19:40.920 check it out, of course, after the show. But the debate really was good. Having just three of them

00:19:45.520 and having that sort of format, it really did come up with some good discussion and things covered.

00:19:52.080 So I will direct you to our social media channels. Okay, let's bring in Professor David Haskell. He's

00:19:59.040 a social scientist and a professor in Ontario. Maybe he'll correct me. I believe it was Waterloo.

00:20:03.400 I didn't write my notes right. And we want to talk about critical race theory and how it's

00:20:07.260 been applying in some battles with Ontario schools and school boards. It's not just an

00:20:12.840 American issue, and we might call it different things, but it's all coming up up here as well.

00:20:16.860 So welcome to the show, Professor Haskell. Thanks for joining us today.

00:20:21.380 Yeah, thanks for having me.

00:20:22.860 So you wrote a piece recently in C2C Journal, and it was basically on parental pushback, you know, in the fight against critical race theory coming in with the Ontario School Board.

00:20:34.400 And that Ontario School Board has already had a few flare ups with some some kind of unusual occurrences, I guess you could say that they're quite something.

00:20:41.560 But in the sense of critical race theory, I mean, a lot of people think that's just an American phenomenon, but obviously it's an issue up here as well.

00:20:47.820 Yeah, it is. And what people don't often realize is they don't tend to use the words critical race theory. I mean, they've gotten on to the fact that people don't like it, that the United States certainly had a backlash among parents.

00:21:02.640 And so here in Canada, educators who are in favor of things like critical race theory don't call it that at all. They'll call it things like anti-racism education. And part of that will also be white privilege instruction.

00:21:16.160 So parents have probably heard about that, you know, that their kids are being taught about white privilege or that their kids are being exposed to anti-racism education.

00:21:25.820 But what they need to know is that the foundation of that really is critical race theory.

00:21:31.000 And it's just the practical applications of it.

00:21:34.300 In terms of anti-racism education, for example, we've got these books out there, How to Be Anti-Racist.

00:21:42.620 One was written by a fellow. He's at Boston University. His name's Ibram Kendi.

00:21:47.660 And it essentially says that discrimination based on skin color is a good thing. 1.00

00:21:52.900 He will say that if it is anti-racist discrimination and it's taking on past wrongs, past historical wrongs, then that's a good thing.

00:22:05.220 So essentially, with anti-racism education, we're actually seeing students being told discrimination can be a good thing. 0.55

00:22:13.300 Yeah, it's kind of gone a bizarro full circle. I mean, I've seen that. We're just adding to

00:22:19.920 division. I mean, I think the goal for initially when there was problems with true systemic racism

00:22:25.540 and institutionalized racism was that race just wouldn't be a matter anymore. We'll get to a point

00:22:30.320 where it's irrelevant. You know, we are treating each other as equal. And now we're kind of

00:22:34.620 dividing each other on the basis of anti-racism. It's counterintuitive, but that's where this sort

00:22:40.020 of theory starts to come about. Yeah. And I mean, where it is most insidious is this teaching of

00:22:46.000 white privilege, which is seen across all the boards in Ontario and certainly all across the

00:22:52.620 West and everywhere in Canada, everywhere in the U.S. And this idea of white privilege, just in

00:22:57.440 case people aren't familiar with it, it essentially teaches that if you're white, many of the

00:23:02.380 successes or maybe even the majority of your successes are due to your white skin. Now, 0.92

00:23:07.540 Now, conversely, it's equally damaging to students of color because it teaches that no matter how hard they work, the deck is stacked against them and they can't succeed.

00:23:17.800 So in that, we have this subtle racism of low expectations.

00:23:21.840 And the thing that I pointed out in the article that you mentioned in the CDC Journal is that the research surrounding things like diversity education, anti-racism education, and in particular, white privilege, the research actually shows that it doesn't do what it intends to do.

00:23:41.940 In fact, it does harm.

00:23:44.580 Well, yeah, I mean, if somebody feels, I mean, kids are in a developmental stage at that point.

00:23:50.420 They're very impressionable.

00:23:51.260 if you're being taught at a young age that you're at a disadvantage, I mean, I guess for some,

00:23:56.300 it would inspire people to rise above and push past that. But for others, it might give a sense

00:24:00.900 of defeatism and actually, you know, it'd be a self-fulfilling prophecy. And that's not good

00:24:05.100 for anybody. No, no. And you know what? You should have been a social scientist yourself,

00:24:09.280 because what you're talking about is a really well-studied phenomenon called stereotype threat.

00:24:16.100 Now, stereotype threat says exactly what you're saying. And we've got a lot of studies

00:24:20.720 surrounding it. It's essentially that if you keep telling students of color or people of color

00:24:25.520 that the deck is stacked against them, then they'll begin to believe it and then they will

00:24:29.800 underperform. The interesting thing is when you have people of color who are immigrants to Canada, 1.00

00:24:36.040 for example, and they don't buy into that particular false notion that the deck is

00:24:42.960 stacked against them, they actually overperform. The latest Statistics Canada data showed that

00:24:50.220 people of color actually have a greater chance of getting a university degree than white

00:24:57.720 populations that have been here for decades or hundreds of years. So we're seeing that now.

00:25:02.880 And really, it's a testament to this idea that the harder you work and also your home life,

00:25:08.420 if you have two parents that are together and in a solid relationship, those are the things that

00:25:14.180 matter. Yeah, there's other social factors beyond that. And some of that does put light to it. I

00:25:20.380 mean, we've seen a great success in Asian and South Asian populations, for example, and

00:25:24.940 immigrants in most measures, whether it's educational or financial and such. But 0.99

00:25:29.860 those factors, when you dig into it, tend to be it's a strong, supportive family unit. It's a

00:25:35.000 culture very much of ambition and moving ahead. And, you know, those are beyond. I mean, if it

00:25:41.020 was just purely racial disadvantages, they wouldn't be able to excel as well as they have.

00:25:46.480 Well, that's really true. And let me just give an example from my my own area. So I'm in Waterloo

00:25:52.420 region and the Board of Education is the Waterloo Region District School Board. And we currently

00:25:58.880 have a director of education who's been pushing so hard to get identity to be the key focus of

00:26:07.560 the board of education to the exclusion of things like basic numeracy literacy he's really focused

00:26:14.320 on identity and he's had some pushback on that from parents who are saying why why is this the

00:26:20.080 focus and he he felt so much pressure in fact he had to write this op-ed in the local newspaper

00:26:25.700 and in it he goes on to say that we need to focus on identity because uh and i'm going to try and

00:26:32.740 get the quote as close as possible. He says, it's no secret since the advent of public education,

00:26:39.880 identity has been a predictor of outcome. Well, I looked at that and I knew it was just completely

00:26:45.840 at odds with the research because it's simply not so. In terms of identity, it's one of the worst

00:26:52.380 predictors, the most unreliable predictors of academic outcome. So I quickly shot out a letter

00:26:58.260 to the editor. And among other things, I noted that in the UK, they'd just done the largest study

00:27:05.080 of the effect of race on academic outcome. The UK Commission on Race and Ethnic Disparities put

00:27:12.700 this out, I think it was March or May 2021. Anyway, they went on to say that the evidence

00:27:18.820 shows conclusively family influence, socioeconomic background, culture, and religion have the most

00:27:26.220 significant impact on things like academic achievement. And it was specific, they noticed

00:27:32.800 this specifically, they say, but racism was one of the least important factors in all of this.

00:27:39.580 So anyway, I shot this out, but you'd think that research would have an effect on the leaders in

00:27:45.460 our educational community, but I think that they're blinded by ideology. Yeah. And again,

00:27:51.340 we just get the most worried. I think perhaps that's where it's finally getting this pushback

00:27:55.280 because now it's actually targeting young children.

00:27:57.240 It's not even in the levels of our post-secondary

00:28:00.040 where we've always seen kind of some woke lunacy

00:28:02.180 taking hold over the years.

00:28:04.000 But at least those are grown people, students and so on

00:28:08.320 who can make up their own mind.

00:28:09.360 But when we start to bring these ideologies

00:28:10.980 into the classrooms of kids at such a young age

00:28:13.600 and on theories that are ideologically based,

00:28:16.860 as you said, I mean, it can cause a lot of damage.

00:28:18.900 I feel for the white children who are in class too

00:28:22.480 are almost being shamed uh you know and called out of the group and again that's the opposite of

00:28:27.220 what we should have ever done i mean there was shaming and abuse against minority children in

00:28:31.180 the past and it was terrible but turning it around and doing it now with uh you know children

00:28:36.360 who aren't people of color isn't helping the situation whatsoever yeah and it cuts both ways 0.94

00:28:41.720 i mean the the students of color are also being told you're not good enough right i mean it's

00:28:48.860 Racism both ways. And you're absolutely right to say that the effect on young people is

00:28:54.340 significant. Again, I came before my school board and I presented them with the research.

00:29:02.620 And this research is detailed in the piece that I wrote in C2C Journal as well. So if your audience

00:29:09.280 wants to take a look, they can go there. But let me just point out a few things. So there was a

00:29:12.980 2019 study that was done in the Journal of Experimental Psychology General. That was the

00:29:21.300 name of it. And the researcher was lead researcher was from Colgate University. Anyway, he wanted to

00:29:26.980 look at what effect would teaching white privilege have on the attitudes of students? And well,

00:29:33.260 they found out that it did absolutely nothing to make people more sympathetic to poor black or

00:29:41.400 people of color. Didn't do anything good. But what the researchers did find, and I'm going to read 1.00

00:29:46.940 the quote I have up here. I left it on my screen. The researchers concluded learning about white

00:29:52.520 privilege reduces sympathy, increases blame, and decreases external attributes, attributions for

00:29:59.960 white people struggling with poverty. So in short, what they found was that teaching about white

00:30:05.200 privilege doesn't do any good, but it does do harm. And it actually makes students more

00:30:10.620 hostile toward poor whites. Yeah, and the division doesn't serve anybody. The later part of your

00:30:18.300 article, though, does cover, I mean, the growing resistance to this kind of ideology. I mean,

00:30:22.140 this hasn't gone unopposed in Ontario or in the United States, for that matter.

00:30:28.560 You know, are parents finally standing back? I mean, standing up. And one of the problems we've

00:30:31.920 had is a lot of apathy when it comes to electing school boards. People don't pay attention. Most

00:30:36.100 people can't even name their local school trustee. You think there's going to be maybe

00:30:40.240 more participation, people paying attention now that things are kind of getting a little off the

00:30:43.540 rails? I know there will be. I know there will be. For example, I was concerned. I've got a daughter

00:30:50.620 still in high school here in the Waterloo region. And I hear what she's being told in class. And

00:30:58.760 I know that it is empirically incorrect, the things that she's being taught by these so-called

00:31:05.980 anti-racism educators. So I took it upon myself to to start a local chapter of the Foundation

00:31:15.480 Against Intolerance and Racism. Now, even though that sounds kind of on the left, it's actually

00:31:20.900 dedicated to preserving the ideas put forward by Martin Luther King Jr. that we should judge

00:31:26.820 people by the content of their character, not the color of their skin. It's really about being

00:31:31.460 pro-human. Anyway, I started this chapter of Foundation Against Intolerance and Racism,

00:31:36.940 or FAIR, and I've had hundreds of parents show interest. I've got a solid, just under 100 who

00:31:45.740 are solid members, and then we'll get more and more interest from just supporters. And I'm not

00:31:51.340 the only, I'm not the only group. There's Action for Canada, there's Parents as First Educators,

00:31:56.260 And each of these groups is searching for trustees, people who would be candidates for trustees to bring back sanity to our boards.

00:32:06.720 And the response has been overwhelming and not just in Waterloo region, but across Ontario.

00:32:12.780 And I'm not sure what's happening in municipal or trustee elections across Canada, but I can only assume that parents for the good of their children are finally waking up and they're taking action.

00:32:23.780 That's it. And I mean, I kind of like the naming, whether it's left, right, it doesn't matter. You

00:32:27.460 know, I mean, a foundation against intolerance and racism, because that's what the ideologues

00:32:33.100 will always throw back. If you question it, you're immediately labeled as a racist. Well,

00:32:37.280 a racist. I mean, if you oppose our anti-racist view, it means you thus must be pro-racist. Well,

00:32:43.360 no. And it's a lazy way to frame a debate or a way to shut one down. And, you know,

00:32:48.240 we need to have rational discussion on this. We do. And I think that they've overplayed their

00:32:53.820 hand. And now parents who typically have a lot more common sense than the people who have been

00:32:59.020 indoctrinated through education programs, they're seeing what is actually going on.

00:33:06.660 And they're saying, your definitions simply do not make sense. Because we, in our hearts,

00:33:13.060 We all know that discrimination based on skin color is a terrible thing.

00:33:17.740 And we we almost got rid of it.

00:33:20.280 We were so close.

00:33:21.160 And then suddenly we have these woke activists who are coming back and saying, no, you know what?

00:33:27.280 Actually, let's bring back discrimination based on skin color.

00:33:31.180 Well, this is just playing with fire.

00:33:33.020 And again, I'm all about the data.

00:33:35.880 I want to know what actually will do the most good in our society to bring unity and the things that they're promoting.

00:33:43.060 under the guise of anti-racism education or critical race theory or white privilege,

00:33:47.620 it doesn't do good. It does harm. Well, that's it. And being about the data,

00:33:51.640 I mean, we're seeing examples. We've seen places where this has been brought in. I mean, hey,

00:33:55.420 if we saw great successes and these graduates coming out that are unified and functional and

00:33:59.740 happy and get along with each other, then great. Well, let's carry on. But there really hasn't

00:34:04.320 been any evidence of that. Again, and as far as I can see, it's actually adding to division,

00:34:09.520 no matter what they may say the motivations are.

00:34:12.700 Oh, for sure.

00:34:13.960 And again, the data is just so ample.

00:34:18.600 If these people who are running our education systems

00:34:23.020 would just allow it to be presented to parents.

00:34:27.780 I'll give you another example.

00:34:29.140 So this is a great one.

00:34:31.320 There's a professor at Princeton.

00:34:33.200 Her name is Elizabeth Paluck, P-A-L-U-C-K. 0.59

00:34:37.500 and she did a 2001 study. It was published in the Annual Review of Psychology, which is

00:34:42.600 one of the top psychology journals in the world. And so she does this meta-analysis of 400 existing

00:34:49.060 studies. And what she wanted to see is, what good does diversity training do? Now, keep in mind that

00:34:55.600 things like anti-racism education and white privilege, these are the core modules of diversity

00:35:01.400 training. Whether it's done in a business or in a school, it's the same stuff. So they're trying to

00:35:06.500 look at these 400 studies that have already said what's being done with diversity training.

00:35:13.680 And this is what they came up with. So after looking at these 400 papers, they saw that the

00:35:20.080 bold claims that were being made were completely false. Because in terms of this kind of instruction,

00:35:25.640 the average impact, and again, I'm giving the data completely from this paper,

00:35:30.960 the average impact of diversity equity and inclusion training is zero the impact is zero

00:35:37.640 it doesn't change you it doesn't help but then you've got other people like uh frank dauben who's

00:35:44.300 a sociologist at harvard uh he said yep that's true but he did his own studies and and what he

00:35:51.220 looked at was well it doesn't do good but does it do harm and he says yeah it does in fact this

00:35:57.960 kind of diversity training, whether it's white privilege or anti-racism education, it has

00:36:04.480 a fairly good chance. I can't remember the percentage he gave, but a fairly good chance

00:36:09.640 of making people more prejudice. So it won't do good, but it can do harm. And this is what we're

00:36:15.300 promoting in our schools and in our universities. It's terribly unfortunate. Well, I'm glad to see

00:36:21.280 efforts are being made to call it out and hopefully bring it to account. I mean, there are

00:36:25.200 democratic means to change some of these school boards, universities, that's going to be a much

00:36:28.780 bigger and harder task. But at least, you know, to keep the kids just sticking to their, I would

00:36:33.420 think, a rational curriculum and trying to keep, you know, things on the up and up there until they

00:36:38.820 can grow old enough to sort some of those things out would be really important. So I appreciate

00:36:42.840 you calling it out in your article and coming on to talk to us today. Where do we find more

00:36:46.740 information about what you're doing and your organization? So I would encourage people,

00:36:51.560 Well, first of all, to go to the article in C2C, and it's about CRTC.

00:36:58.480 I can't remember the title, but it's Parental Pushback, I think is the subtitle, and it's

00:37:04.340 in C2C Journal, and that actually has links in the actual article to the organizations,

00:37:10.720 the grassroots community organizations that are pushing back against some of this stuff.

00:37:14.920 So that's a place to go.

00:37:16.420 Another place to go would be to the main website for the Foundation Against Intolerance

00:37:21.340 and racism and look for the local chapter. There are now chapters across Canada and find your local

00:37:28.440 chapter and then work to support them. Great. Well, yeah, it was in the C2C journal, which is C and

00:37:34.680 then the number two C for folks Googling it. It was parental pushback, the fight against critical

00:37:38.780 race theory by David Millard Haskell. So if you search that out, you'll find, as you said, that

00:37:42.940 the article has a lot of links and background as well for all the rest of that. So thank you again

00:37:47.420 for coming on to talk about it today and then let's hope we can return some productive rationality

00:37:51.380 to our to our education system yeah let's hope thanks very much all right thank you so check

00:37:56.940 that out for uh more information folks as we said you can look that up with with david haskell and

00:38:01.380 c2c journal and there's a lot of good stuff in c2c journal some good articles and columns and

00:38:06.900 it's very well sourced and it's a discussion that's well worth having and you know i see

00:38:11.000 some in the comments scroll like like uh terryl and nelson said kids don't discriminate against

00:38:15.380 school skin color unless they're taught to and it begins at home and yeah I think that's where 0.97

00:38:19.660 most of it starts it starts in the household you know I I gotta I remember it so well like when I

00:38:26.100 was younger I lived in in northeast Calgary and uh my my middle son was born we he went to school

00:38:32.420 up there and if people know northeast Calgary it's it's a very highly uh immigration immigrant

00:38:36.480 population up there we were up in Whitehorn and and my son went to school he went to kindergarten

00:38:41.780 at a local school in our neighborhood up there, and I would say that, you know, the kids there

00:38:49.480 were probably 80%, you know, immigrant. I mean, they were probably born in Canada, but they were

00:38:54.020 people of color, and I went to a kindergarten graduation ceremony. You know, it was just a

00:38:58.960 little thing schools do and everything else, and this class of 20 kids or whatever, and they were

00:39:02.520 all dressed up, and there's a lot of Sikh and Indian population there, and some of the kids

00:39:07.400 were all dressed up in the traditional silks, and everything. I thought it was fantastic. It was

00:39:11.200 really cool. But the thing that was really neat and struck me at the time was the complete

00:39:15.260 indifference to race with the kids at that level, at that age. They really, it didn't matter. It

00:39:20.160 never occurred to them. They didn't look at each other as different. I mean, they were kids. There's

00:39:23.840 some kids get along with some kids and some don't and everything, but the race wasn't a factor with

00:39:27.960 them yet. And I thought that was great. You know, it really is. The kids don't care. They're just

00:39:32.900 other kids. Somewhere we screw up as we start getting older. And I mean, we're all guilty of

00:39:38.260 things to a degree. We got to learn things and get better with things. And I think we are getting

00:39:41.960 better with things in general. We really are. But I mean, I moved later. Later on, I was living with

00:39:46.300 Jane. You know, I had changed lives. And we were in the Northwest, or, you know, just into the

00:39:53.060 Northwest. I was near James Fowler High School. And that's a large high school in North Calgary.

00:39:57.200 And it's got, again, a very diverse student population. And one thing, it's just, you know,

00:40:02.240 anecdotal on my part, but I observed when I drive by that school quite often, and there's, you know,

00:40:06.120 well over a thousand students there and it'd be lunchtime of course there's kids everywhere

00:40:09.040 and the kids there were often though they were sometimes mixed but often clustered you'd see

00:40:14.300 around the schoolyard there's this ethnic group all hanging around over in this corner this ethnic

00:40:18.600 group in that corner and they weren't mixing anymore and and and when i did it was sad to see

00:40:24.460 because then i wonder well when did that change uh how did they go from being the ones like my son

00:40:31.100 in kindergarten and then getting on into high school and suddenly you're breaking up again

00:40:36.940 into different groups and you're not not necessarily getting along as you should have

00:40:42.060 you know you grew up together and i i i you know i think we're messing up i think some of it's the

00:40:47.740 stuff that we're being taught even then i mean i'm talking about 12 years ago 13 years ago when i was

00:40:51.920 looking around the the other school i'm talking about you know uh even longer when my child was

00:40:56.160 in kindergarten. But I think there's a natural

00:41:00.200 inclination for us to just get along. And then somehow the adults or as

00:41:04.200 the kids grow, we screw it up and we split each other apart again. And it's a sad

00:41:08.280 outcome. And then we get these fights. And these

00:41:10.300 extremists, though, when you get into the critical race theory and crap

00:41:16.300 like that and everything, they're dividing people more. And I've mentioned it

00:41:20.260 on this show before. It just floored me one time a few years ago. And I heard about it. I was listening,

00:41:24.020 I don't know, I think CBC Radio, when I used to survey out in the field, that's all I could get.

00:41:27.480 And they were celebrating the opening of this school in Toronto.

00:41:29.880 It was such a landmark decision.

00:41:31.720 It was so wonderful.

00:41:32.680 It was a great idea.

00:41:34.040 It was a school only for black students.

00:41:37.240 Wow.

00:41:38.440 Wow.

00:41:39.060 I mean, think of what the civil rights movement had to do through the 50s and 60s in the United States

00:41:44.120 to end the segregation and the BS and racial division of schools.

00:41:48.060 And then we get to the full circle.

00:41:51.060 Martin Luther King must have been doing backflips in his grave.

00:41:54.020 Where progressives are actually celebrating racially segregated schools.

00:41:59.480 How in the hell is that making anything better for anybody

00:42:02.940 when you've got schools separated by race?

00:42:07.100 Ridiculous.

00:42:08.860 And part of what gets me to it, you see,

00:42:10.940 with some of that discussion from these activists, these extreme ones,

00:42:14.360 and they're of all colors,

00:42:16.040 but when they try to instill guilt upon the innocent,

00:42:19.160 when they talk about, and we hear that a lot,

00:42:22.000 Oh, there's an inherent racism with every person who's white.

00:42:25.720 No, there isn't.

00:42:26.960 No, there is not.

00:42:28.180 And that's very insulting, and it's very racist to say that.

00:42:30.960 That's what I'm talking about when I saw those children in that kindergarten class.

00:42:33.900 They didn't have it, obviously.

00:42:35.760 They had to grow and gain it.

00:42:39.580 All right.

00:42:40.440 But yes, there's a lot to cover.

00:42:42.640 And it's a difficult area, but I think we're kind of going the wrong way.

00:42:46.100 I think we went on an upward curve.

00:42:47.380 We got a lot better, and now we've hit this peak.

00:42:49.540 There's still a lot of problems to solve.

00:42:51.020 there's still a lot of intolerance out there. There's still a lot of bullying and prejudice

00:42:56.720 within workplaces, even in schools. But when we start to let the more extreme people take over

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00:44:56.260 thousand dollars a year and uh it sounds like they've been increasing over the course of the

00:45:02.180 pandemic everybody else has been suffering everybody else tighten their belts unless

00:45:05.100 here in the civil service and show the total number of federal employees making at least

00:45:09.740 100,000 is gone. This is from 2019 until 2022, went from 69,000 who are making over 100,000 a

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00:45:25.340 money and they're doing less. What are we getting from our federal civil servants? Passport waiting

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00:45:51.240 the Taxpayers Federation, they dig in and bring this up because we need to know you're getting

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00:46:02.820 new jobs. They were all civil service jobs. They're reaching into the pockets of hardworking

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00:46:21.900 government incentive. Look at all the people we're employing. Yes, yes. Well, it's just a work for

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00:46:46.220 and I love watching this outrage going on with this Commons Ethics Committee, where they're

00:46:51.060 still furious upon finding out the RCMP has been using spyware to surveil members of parliament.

00:46:58.560 You know, again, like I said, so many members of parliament really didn't give a crap when it was

00:47:01.560 the general public who were getting their privacy invaded that were getting surveillance from the

00:47:05.240 RCMP ostensibly to, I don't know, protect the liberal government. Well, now they're mad. Oh,

00:47:12.240 wait a minute. We didn't know you were going to look into our phones too. What would you expect,

00:47:15.480 you peckerheads? Think a little harder before you empower these agencies to get in

00:47:20.200 and get on to our private devices.

00:47:22.820 But now they're mad.

00:47:23.700 But here's something funny.

00:47:24.720 They voted because the RCMP wouldn't even admit

00:47:27.040 and they won't share the data with them.

00:47:29.160 So they voted six to five on the committee

00:47:30.960 to order the RCMP to comply

00:47:33.100 and share that surveillance data.

00:47:36.080 But I wonder, you know,

00:47:36.740 the five who voted against it,

00:47:39.240 I got to wonder what they had on their phones

00:47:40.800 that they're terrified of.

00:47:41.760 They don't want that data shared whatsoever.

00:47:43.540 I got a feeling, you know,

00:47:44.480 we'll see some perhaps interesting things

00:47:46.680 from our members of parliament.

00:47:47.640 I mean, they couldn't even do Zoom meetings

00:47:49.100 without taking a leak halfway through

00:47:50.680 or walking around naked.

00:47:51.960 So just imagine some of the stuff

00:47:53.720 these guys have got on their phones.

00:47:56.040 But I do love this reality check

00:47:58.900 that seems to have hit them, right?

00:48:00.540 It's once it hits the members of parliament,

00:48:03.440 now it's an important issue.

00:48:05.140 Wasn't a big deal before.

00:48:07.260 Well, yeah, you guys got to live

00:48:09.220 with the same crap as us. 0.70

00:48:10.480 And now you got to deal with that RCMP

00:48:11.720 who's beholden to Justin Trudeau

00:48:13.940 rather than the citizens

00:48:15.060 or actually you guys.

00:48:19.100 Here's another side story.

00:48:20.980 So this was interesting.

00:48:23.360 I mean, this is more of a trend in things we see.

00:48:25.960 So a number of people got arrested.

00:48:27.360 There was a big skirmish in the downtown east side of Vancouver the other day.

00:48:30.740 And if people have been out to East Hastings, I mean, East Hastings was always a slum, even 30 years ago. 0.74

00:48:35.000 That was the area where I think at some point it was the worst in North America for heroin use and addicts.

00:48:40.440 And now it's just a horror story.

00:48:45.360 It goes for blocks and blocks, tent city everywhere. 0.54

00:48:47.960 It's a mess.

00:48:48.600 it's a progressive paradise in other words but uh you know we've got an addiction epidemic across

00:48:53.500 all of north america so of course the hot spots that were already bad have gotten even worse

00:48:57.520 but the thing that helps not helps contributes to this and when i saw the skirmish so they're

00:49:02.360 trying to remove uh some tents and structures along the street in the neighborhood because

00:49:05.940 it was just too much and there'd been disturbances again we can't quit keep pretending these are

00:49:11.140 harmless addicts harmless people it's not bothering anybody when they sit up it doesn't

00:49:15.000 No BS. And if you got to live near it, it's a problem. And somebody on meth is very potentially

00:49:19.560 dangerous. They also steal to feed their habit. I know there are people who are sick and they're

00:49:23.260 in the grasps of addiction and they should have some sympathy and we should be trying to help

00:49:27.000 them. But at the same time, let's quit pretending that they're harmless and that we could just let

00:49:32.620 them set up anywhere. But these activists get in and we're seeing that in Portland and Seattle

00:49:36.140 and in Vancouver, where they actually fight any efforts to try and clean this up. And that's what

00:49:41.360 happened. So this was a brawl and it wasn't just the people in the homeless camp. It was these

00:49:46.220 extremist activists who were fighting back against the police because the police were trying to

00:49:50.180 arrest and clean up some people who were causing problems down there. But it's gone mad. You know,

00:49:56.720 I mean, we do have a problem. We've got homeless people. They need somewhere to go. They need

00:50:02.200 somewhere to live where they're not causing problems for others. It's not like we can just

00:50:05.740 stick them into an apartment building. It's not like, you know, they're ready to roll. But we

00:50:10.460 can't let them just set up random tent cities and shanty towns everywhere it turns into a disaster 1.00

00:50:16.080 every time and it's really unfair to the other people living there again i propose fine take

00:50:21.380 some warehouses make them into you know concrete floors in the works but with toilets you can hose

00:50:25.540 out just we're responsible for the needs they won't freeze to death they won't starve to death

00:50:30.060 here's the basics and then get them there and off the damn streets minimal yes but it's still better

00:50:35.500 than some feces loaded tent city where they're shooting up and raping each other because yes 0.82

00:50:39.780 the crimes against each other are horrific in those tent camps as well and then we can work 0.97

00:50:43.900 from there hopefully on reforming people but to have these white bread activists up there 0.55

00:50:48.600 standing around pushing back on police when the police are just trying to do their job

00:50:51.940 and make a neighborhood a little safer and clean up a tent city that's gone out of control because 1.00

00:50:56.500 that's what it is it's these hipsters it's these cellar dwelling spoiled kids who think they're

00:51:01.040 doing the world a favor who dive in there and do these things get out of there guys you're not

00:51:06.920 doing anybody any favors it's a mess it's unfair to the citizens of the area it's unfair to the

00:51:11.920 police but these skirmishes we see happening all over as i said we see these sorts of videos and

00:51:16.980 scenes throughout in in um basically throughout the west coast whether it's canada or the

00:51:22.100 the united states uh you know i think part of the reason is the nicer climate i mean if you're

00:51:28.720 going to live on the streets you know you don't want to do it in winnipeg though they got their

00:51:31.600 share of it as well because i mean wintertime it's horrific if you can get to the west coast

00:51:35.500 it's relatively easy you're living at least as far as the weather's concerned

00:51:39.880 let's see I'll go into something a little lighter this was just an interesting story I kind of

00:51:44.920 rattled across if people are into archaeology and things like that it's really kind of cool

00:51:48.660 I guess there's these ancient knife coins that were found or I guess they've been around for a

00:51:53.900 while but somebody deciphered them they're 2300 years old and they're Chinese and they're these

00:51:59.720 these knife looking things I guess they were a form of currency they call them knife coins

00:52:03.220 and uh they actually had formulas on them for uh metallurgy like for for making different bronze

00:52:10.320 and and and mixtures and things like that they thought were long lost it's just kind of really

00:52:15.620 cool stuff you know we're finding old formulas from thousands of years ago that were long gone

00:52:19.400 i can't imagine how hard it was to translate these things every language changes and everything but

00:52:24.380 uh it's just a uh you know if we're talking to kind of an interesting kitschy sort of story

00:52:30.100 uh that one's out there you know it's speaking of ancient cultures and ancient technologies these

00:52:35.800 the chinese of course thousands of years ago were very very advanced so uh yeah that's that was in 1.00

00:52:41.140 the journal of antiquity we're just covering a few things my guest david craden i believe is going to

00:52:45.760 be coming on pretty quickly i think he's just uh getting set up out there a little bit with his

00:52:49.980 computer out that way i see him in the lobby he should be ready to roll pretty soon but i'm not

00:52:55.140 quite sure if he's set. If David can give me a wave, if he's ready to roll, we can pop him in.

00:53:01.060 But if they're still sorting stuff out, we'll hang on. Okay, we'll hang on a moment. So

00:53:06.760 let's see here what else we got. Yes, the Bay to Nord offshore oil projects in Newfoundland.

00:53:15.140 People might remember that, you know, because the federal government rejected an oil field

00:53:19.780 proposed project in Alberta to expand in the oil sands, but they approved the one offshore

00:53:27.320 in Newfoundland. Now, I got no problem with the one in Newfoundland. Go for it. Get drilling.

00:53:31.160 Of course, it's just that double standard that grates. But of course, environmental groups

00:53:35.700 are not taking this because those lunatics are opposing oil and gas development everywhere

00:53:41.420 all the time, no matter what. So they're even going after now, I guess it's a Norwegian company

00:53:46.580 that's taking part in this offshore project,

00:53:49.740 even though it's a Canadian one.

00:53:51.040 And the environmentalists are protesting over Norway

00:53:53.720 trying to shut it down.

00:53:56.400 You know, we got to quit pandering to these guys.

00:53:59.940 They want us to freeze in the dark.

00:54:01.680 They want us to starve and freeze in the dark.

00:54:03.840 They're irrational.

00:54:04.900 They're insane.

00:54:05.960 The world's in an energy crisis

00:54:07.100 and these ding-dongs are out there 0.81

00:54:08.600 trying to shut down efforts to bring in more energy.

00:54:10.460 Look, get out there. 0.99

00:54:11.840 If you're that dedicated,

00:54:12.720 invent the perfect solar panel.

00:54:14.340 Find a windmill that'll do the trick for us then.

00:54:16.580 and we'll bring it in. But until then, we need oil and gas. And it's impacting the safety

00:54:23.060 and standard of living of millions and billions of people in the world.

00:54:28.040 We cannot get rid of these sources of energy yet. We're not even close.

00:54:33.860 But we keep, you know, it was one thing if you got a bunch of goofy hippies who are out

00:54:38.140 protesting something, and they're a tiny minority. So what big deal? The problem is we've got

00:54:42.680 corporate heads who are taking these clowns seriously. Now we've got politicians who are

00:54:45.920 taking them seriously. In fact, one of them is Canada's environment minister. He is one of these

00:54:49.920 extreme activists, and he's in a very strong position of power. So don't consider it a done

00:54:57.920 deal, guys, out there in Newfoundland. Until that thing gets rolling, these activists are working

00:55:03.900 their hardest to shut that down. And thankfully, you know, it's funny because, again, Canada,

00:55:10.640 you know, I talked about that before. We won't even touch our own Arctic. We're too scared of

00:55:14.200 our environmentalists. But Norway's expanding their Arctic development. Russia's expanding

00:55:18.920 their Arctic development. It's all going to come on stream and we're getting left behind.

00:55:23.580 Okay, I'm going to speak to my sponsor, one more sponsor before I get to my guest there. It looks

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00:56:32.580 taken all right let's get over to ottawa there and bring in mr david creighton and see what's

00:56:37.720 happening over on his front hey david how's it going good i had a little uh sound problem here

00:56:42.440 cory so all right yeah no i can see you know i see you down in the lobby below scrambling so i

00:56:48.180 let you be you're far from alone with it we all have uh those moments uh but things are getting

00:56:54.000 more user-friendly all the time so thanks for coming to talk to us today uh lots to talk about

00:56:58.620 as usual uh out on the federal front uh i guess your most recent one i mean we'll kind of start

00:57:04.400 with that and that's the uh the polling and such uh with regards to the federal conservative party

00:57:10.200 of canada race yeah i i noticed this this morning and i think uh the western standard picked up on

00:57:16.500 this as well from this canadian press story i i really found this poll to be this legé poll

00:57:23.240 to be completely haywire because it's it's basically no more accurate than than some

00:57:29.900 online poll where you you ask a question and you take the first 100 responses and and that's your

00:57:36.840 poll so it's completely inaccurate and it there wasn't even a a positive or negative in terms of

00:57:43.400 accuracy because it wasn't accurate and I took two things from it first of all the 44 percent of

00:57:52.040 Conservative voters apparently favor Pierre Paglia, 17 percent favor Jean Charest.

00:57:58.520 So I said, hey, we add that up. That means where's the other 39 percent? 0.99

00:58:03.440 And it certainly wasn't going equally to the other three contenders.

00:58:07.480 So I don't know the number crunching some problems.

00:58:12.020 But what really got me is the suggestion that Canadians writ large, Canadians as viewed, defined by the Liberal Party of Canada,

00:58:22.040 that don't like Pierre Polyev and they like Jean Chiré.

00:58:25.840 He's a nice red Tory in the comfy sweater.

00:58:29.260 And why are conservatives backing the wrong horse?

00:58:32.340 So I found this poll to be very suspect,

00:58:37.320 but at the same time, expect more of this in the next couple of months

00:58:42.780 because Pierre is going to win this conservative leadership race.

00:58:47.600 I mean, if you have any money on it, good for you.

00:58:50.160 So if you're just interested in political science, I don't think there's any way he can lose because he's put the most work into it.

00:58:58.480 He's certainly got the biggest crowds when he's out on the hustings.

00:59:03.860 And I think, as I said in a previous column, the endorsement by former Prime Minister Stephen Harper was the icing on the cake in terms of getting people into his camp.

00:59:13.980 But he's not liked by the mainstream media, by the state media.

00:59:18.680 He's considered to be too dangerous, whatever the heck that means, and can mean anything they want it to mean, of course.

00:59:26.980 But I really do think we're going to see a lot of smearing going on against Pierre Polyev, because I think he's going to beat Justin Trudeau, if Justin's still around for this next election.

00:59:41.860 And if, as a lot of people have been theorizing, we might have a fall election, I think Pierre is going to have the momentum from winning the leadership race.

00:59:51.660 And he's going to walk into this election fully prepared and warmed up and ready to go.

00:59:57.460 And I think he's got this election beaten if it happens soon.

01:00:01.660 Well, and, you know, those discussions, they come up basically anytime there's a candidate coming up who's unapologetically conservative.

01:00:07.140 We're seeing that here in Alberta as well, where it appears anyways that Daniel Smith has got a pretty good lead going on in the leadership race.

01:00:13.640 So they start saying, well, sure, the conservative policies are good.

01:00:17.460 And yes, they make sense in their comments, but they'll never win with the public.

01:00:20.680 So we can't go with that candidate because we can't sell conservative policies to the public.

01:00:26.080 And, you know, I think it might scare some people away.

01:00:29.440 But typically, despite what people say, if they could be believed, we never would have had a Ralph Klein.

01:00:34.200 We never would have had a Ronald Reagan.

01:00:36.260 And, you know, I mean, you can sell conservative policies to an electorate.

01:00:40.640 You just have to sell it right.

01:00:43.100 Well, that's very true.

01:00:44.880 And I'm furious to some degree.

01:00:49.420 I mean, I never get that furious with people.

01:00:52.160 I get furious with ideas.

01:00:53.840 But the idea that Polly Ebb is somehow wrong to talk about freedom. 0.60

01:00:59.740 I saw this the other day on Tasha Carradine's LinkedIn site.

01:01:04.900 And she was doing an interview with a Calgary radio station, which will remain nameless, with a host that I know very well and have never gotten along with.

01:01:13.320 But she said the subject of the conversation was going to be how talking about freedom offends some Canadians.

01:01:20.920 And I said, you call yourself a conservative?

01:01:23.460 This is what Paul Yev's campaign has been all about.

01:01:27.120 And as far as I'm concerned, this is what conservatism is all about.

01:01:30.140 It's about freedom.

01:01:30.960 It's about liberty.

01:01:31.480 And if we don't talk about positive conservatism, as Ronald Reagan did better than anybody else, I think, in the late 20th century, we're we're not going to win this because we're going to be phony Tories.

01:01:44.360 We're going to be phony liberals. We're going to be the same thing we were in the last election, which was not sure where we were politically, maybe somewhere to the right of Justin Trudeau, but not really in terms of real policy.

01:01:57.860 So I get very frustrated when I hear conservatives say we need Jean Charest because he's a nice guy and Canadians all like him, except he's got the same policies as the current government, as far as I'm concerned.

01:02:10.420 He's no different from Aaron O'Toole, who we had in there recently.

01:02:13.960 And we do not need another liberal leading the Conservative Party.

01:02:17.420 We need a decision in this next election.

01:02:20.060 We need a choice.

01:02:22.060 And Pierre Polyev is certainly going to provide that choice.

01:02:25.820 Is he the only candidate that's providing that choice?

01:02:28.760 No, I like most of the candidates in this race, but I think he's the only one that can win.

01:02:33.940 It's going to be a very nasty race in the next election because they're going to throw everything at Pierre that they can possibly come up with in terms of him being too extreme, too right wing, too dangerous, too populist, blah, blah, blah.

01:02:48.360 Too much like Donald Trump.

01:02:49.540 You wait for it.

01:02:50.440 It's all going to come out.

01:02:51.420 But I think Pierre is astute enough, articulate enough and good on his feet enough to come back at this stuff.

01:02:59.840 And I don't think another candidate out there is going to be tough enough to go against the liberal machine, whether it's Justin Trudeau or whether it's, God forbid, the finance minister, Christia Freeland.

01:03:11.880 I don't care who they put up, but the liberal party is a vicious political machine when it's in full mode election action.

01:03:19.620 And I think it's going to be a very tough election. I think Pair is up to it, though.

01:03:23.820 And I think we need someone with his stamina and his guts to fight this election, to duke it out with the liberals and the NDP in this next election.

01:03:31.440 Well, that's it. I mean, when we try to out-liberal the liberals, people will just vote liberal.

01:03:35.100 I mean, if I were a liberal voter, I've got, well, this is a conservative pretending to be liberal.

01:03:39.040 And here's a liberal who's unapologetically liberal. I'm going to vote for the liberal.

01:03:42.100 And meanwhile, the conservative voters see a conservative saying he's liberal. What do they do? They stay home.

01:03:45.940 And we saw that with O'Toole. And yeah, we'll see it again if we try to stick another pretend liberal up there. I mean, just, you know, you reminded me of something here, Corey. I really have to do a column about this, because what the Brexit results showed a couple of years back in Britain was that there were a 20 percent of the electorate was sitting out elections because they just weren't motivated to vote.

01:04:10.820 They didn't think there was enough of a difference, enough of a choice.

01:04:14.780 And they came out for Brexit to overwhelmingly say, no, we don't want to be part of the European Union.

01:04:20.180 And that was the secret of that campaign's success.

01:04:23.640 It wasn't saying, we're going to attract the liberal voters on our side.

01:04:28.380 It was, we're going to get those people who haven't been voting.

01:04:31.440 And that's what Pierre has really been going after.

01:04:33.800 I don't know, consciously or not, I hope so.

01:04:36.420 But his populist message, his message, which is very like what the Republican Party is trying to get out in the States, is that it's not a party that's open to every idea out there, but it's open to everybody out there who wants to be part of this political movement.

01:04:53.880 And it's a conservative populist movement that is attracting blue-collar workers, working-class people, new immigrants, people who have traditionally not voted conservative are going to be voting conservative in this next election because, quite frankly, the liberals are bankrupt of ideas and policies, and they're getting excited about this idea of freedom.

01:05:15.860 They're not turned off about freedom. That's why they came to Canada. That's why new immigrants come to Canada. They want to be free. And my goodness, working-class people are tired.

01:05:23.880 of paying taxes the same way middle class and upper class people are. They're tired of working 0.77

01:05:28.620 for the government. So I think we've got a great opportunity here to sell positive conservatism.

01:05:34.480 Yeah, I believe so, too, if it can be done right. And getting on that speculative road,

01:05:38.100 I mean, there's two big speculations whether or not there'd be a fall election. The other thing

01:05:41.920 you wrote about wondering, you know, well, Trudeau's out languishing in Costa Rica at great

01:05:46.520 expense to all of us. Not that he's cheap for all of us when he's home either. But you think

01:05:53.140 He might be just making his mind up.

01:05:55.300 Is it time to give it one more kick at the can to try and get a majority

01:05:57.980 or that he might throw his hands up and say,

01:06:00.880 maybe it's time to walk off into the sunset?

01:06:03.180 I definitely think he's weighing his career.

01:06:05.560 He's weighing his chances.

01:06:08.720 He's weighing his legacy because people like Trudeau,

01:06:12.960 who are very narcissistic, it's all about legacy for them.

01:06:18.420 They want to leave a legacy behind.

01:06:20.720 And right now he really doesn't have much of a legacy

01:06:22.640 except legalizing marijuana and and being one of the worst prime ministers in the history of this

01:06:27.520 country so i think he's he's wondering what he can do to stay in power i don't think he's really

01:06:34.260 contemplating resignation but i think he's he is plotting his return as it will and he wants to

01:06:41.840 come back with something right now i think he is in very very dangerous ground he's incredibly

01:06:46.700 unpopular i don't i don't think it's going to work i think it's delusion but justin trudeau

01:06:52.680 don't don't ever think he sells himself short because he really thinks he has a lot to offer

01:06:58.720 this country yeah well he lives in a special bubble uh world of his own i'm sure i mean as

01:07:05.080 you said you can't underestimate that liberal machine though i mean even if the guy at the

01:07:08.460 head of it isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer they've got some some very powerful strategists

01:07:13.900 and, you know, connections that there will be a well-funded campaign

01:07:17.800 and they just can't be taken lightly.

01:07:19.760 So, I mean, the Conservatives are definitely going to have to go straight

01:07:21.860 into at least election preparation mode

01:07:23.760 the moment they're finished with their leadership race.

01:07:26.380 Yes, yes, yes, yes, they will,

01:07:28.140 because there's no time to waste with this

01:07:30.980 and this is going to be a very tough election, as I said,

01:07:34.340 and I think the Conservatives have to be prepared for that.

01:07:36.480 And I think they will be.

01:07:37.300 I mean, they're not naive.

01:07:39.040 And as I said, I think Polly, he's a tough political character.

01:07:44.120 There's no question about it.

01:07:45.160 He's been there long enough to understand politics as a tough sport.

01:07:51.360 Yeah, that it most certainly is.

01:07:53.380 Well, I appreciate you coming in to talk to us today, David,

01:07:56.400 and always those prolific Ottawa-based columns coming out from out there.

01:08:01.020 Have you got stuff coming down the pipe you can give us a heads up on,

01:08:03.600 or are you still seeing what you're going to write on next?

01:08:05.660 I know you just put one up there.

01:08:06.760 Yeah, I just I just put one up next. I'm I'd like to revisit the this fertilizer mess, which which I had a great time last week talking to a former agriculture minister, Jerry Ritz, which is just going going up the turnstile there.

01:08:24.060 But Jerry is really motivated to get out about this message that Trudeau is deliberately tampering with our food supply by essentially banning fertilizer because it contains nitrogen, which he thinks is causing greenhouse gases.

01:08:42.300 And this is even rather Canadians go without food and starve and then emit a few more greenhouse gases.

01:08:51.460 And it's really quite negligible in terms of it's just having any effect on climate change at all.

01:08:57.180 Probably not, because even if we stopped emitting any greenhouse gases in Canada and if Justin Trudeau stopped flying in his Challenger jet and creating this huge carbon footprint, even if he stopped it, China and India would still be producing much more of these things than we are. 0.58

01:09:13.940 So really, I don't think we want to fall on our sword over this.

01:09:18.180 I think we want to keep food production up.

01:09:20.140 And as Jerry points out, there's no more responsible environmental stewards out there than farmers.

01:09:25.840 Farmers are some of the best, but they're being punished by Justin Trudeau because he doesn't think they're important.

01:09:30.840 He doesn't think people who work the land, he doesn't think people who produce the food that he eats, breakfast, lunch and dinner, he thinks it comes from the grocery store and nothing before that.

01:09:40.700 He doesn't think that's important.

01:09:42.040 And I think that this is an issue.

01:09:43.500 I think it's the most important issue facing Canada right now.

01:09:45.740 And this might destroy Justin Trudeau's political career, because I think there's enough sane people in the Liberal caucus who are saying, this is insanity.

01:09:56.260 This is madness.

01:09:58.260 We cannot go down this route because this sounds like a Maoist great leap forward, which ended in catastrophic results.

01:10:06.460 Well, Canada's agriculture minister just this morning was up saying, no, no, no, no, you guys are misinterpreting.

01:10:11.020 We want a voluntary reduction of 30 percent.

01:10:14.900 I don't think anybody believes her.

01:10:17.260 No, it's not only it's not voluntary, won't be voluntary, but the tariff on fertilizer is not voluntary right now.

01:10:24.060 They're not talking about that.

01:10:25.400 We're the only G7 country that's taxing fertilizer out of the market for farmers.

01:10:30.740 They literally will not be able to afford to buy fertilizer.

01:10:33.820 And that's not voluntary.

01:10:35.960 A tariff is a tariff.

01:10:36.960 so don't trust or believe with the liberal government on this because they are driven by

01:10:42.100 a radical climate change agenda and that's really all they care about is satisfying their masters

01:10:47.700 in the world bank the world economic forum and the people who are pushing for radical green energy

01:10:54.320 plans yeah i mean well you know they don't the elitists who are pushing this don't care if the

01:10:59.200 price of caviar goes up a little for them but it's going to hurt everybody else in a terrible way if

01:11:03.020 they get these sorts of things pushed through. But all right. Well, thank you very much again

01:11:09.340 for coming on and keeping on with these. It's definitely one to follow up on. As you said,

01:11:12.960 this is an issue that could grow big. I mean, it took down a government in Sri Lanka.

01:11:16.540 It's got the Dutch government paralyzed. I mean, I think they've overplayed their hand on this

01:11:21.080 thing. And that might be the catalyst for change in Canada, finally. I hope so. We can only hope

01:11:27.520 and pray. Yes. All right. Well, good to talk to you, David. It always is. And I look forward to

01:11:32.920 seeing more columns in the coming days. A pleasure meeting with you again, Corey, and all the best.

01:11:37.280 Great. Thanks. That is our parliamentary senior columnist there, David Creighton. Yes, he puts up

01:11:43.780 all sorts of great and very popular. I mean, he gets a lot of traffic on those columns,

01:11:49.460 mostly on those issues. He writes on some international stuff too, some things about

01:11:52.860 Trump as I scroll through, and of course, well, local stuff with Tamara Leach. So always a good

01:11:58.580 conversation with Mr. Creighton when we get him on, and he covers a lot of things there.

01:12:04.340 That food issue, you know, we just can't stress enough how dangerous and crazy this is. I mean,

01:12:10.880 we're going after a need, a true need. I mean, I listen to some fart catchers for the liberals

01:12:17.800 on Twitter. Sometimes they've been going on about the handgun grab. Nobody needs a handgun.

01:12:23.280 Okay?

01:12:24.240 There's a lot of things we don't need.

01:12:26.100 The only things we need are shelter and food and water.

01:12:29.800 I mean, beyond that, nothing else is a full-out need.

01:12:33.160 The other stuff are things we want, but they make our life more comfortable.

01:12:36.060 And they're better for us.

01:12:38.020 And I don't have to justify what I want to anybody.

01:12:42.260 One thing that is a need, then, you idiots, a need is food.

01:12:46.960 And you're attacking it.

01:12:48.340 You're going after fertilizers.

01:12:50.300 It's across the board.

01:12:51.560 anybody who grows any sort of agricultural crop or food will say, all right, you must have modern

01:12:58.500 fertilizers to get the maximum yield per acre so that you can feed people. So you're going after

01:13:05.020 a need there, you morons. Get out of that. Then you can start fighting with us about whether or

01:13:10.820 not I have the right to enjoy once, like firearm ownership. It doesn't matter what's a need or not.

01:13:17.960 it's not for you guys to determine all right let's look through a few other things before i

01:13:22.520 close it up here uh this is a neat one yeah so this again showing how the efficiency of government

01:13:26.880 i mean one of the areas where uh you know you'd think the government would be most efficient but

01:13:32.980 they they don't seem to be not or maybe they're not in a hurry on this one apparently nine million

01:13:36.340 canadians are owed some sort of government cash and they're going to send out reminders this month

01:13:40.540 to tens of thousands of people well i thought if there's nine million you should probably send

01:13:44.280 up more reminders. But anyways, to let them know they have $1.4 billion worth of uncashed checks

01:13:50.040 on their books. So some of it goes back as far as 1998. So I guess, you know, some people have

01:13:54.900 passed on or left the country or gone to jail or who knows what, and they didn't realize these

01:13:58.640 checks are there. But still, the average amount is $160 that Canadians are owed out there, and

01:14:05.340 CRA theoretically wants to give it back to you. So check things out maybe, guys. You know, if you

01:14:10.580 don't keep good track of your finances and things, have a look. There's online things. There's things

01:14:14.760 to check. Maybe there's some bucks there that you didn't realize you had, you know, and you can

01:14:19.320 always use a few more dollars. Let's see into the world of the weird. There was a Calgary man who had

01:14:25.700 a $900 trillion lawsuit and was asking for some crazy restraining orders. So his case got thrown

01:14:35.560 out of court by a judge. He was self-representing, but it's good for the legal crazed entertainment

01:14:40.800 factor, I guess, anyways. But the judge even said, I may take judicial notice that this amount is

01:14:45.960 vastly more than Canada's entire gross domestic product of $1.64 trillion. So I'm sure this man

01:14:53.820 will appeal and carry on and try. I know it clogs up our court system, but we might as well laugh a

01:14:58.600 little bit about it. Under the Go Broke file, there's a lawsuit being filed as well. Some

01:15:04.340 Some companies alleged failure to develop a wind project in Southern Alberta

01:15:07.500 or invest investors in a wind farm out by Cypress Hills.

01:15:12.460 They're looking for a 10.5, 10.7 million bucks.

01:15:17.280 They invested in a crappy industry, guys.

01:15:20.420 Yeah, burn.

01:15:21.380 So yeah, I guess in 2007,

01:15:24.540 they made some investment and it went south.

01:15:27.740 I mean, Medicine Hat's also where a giant solar farm was put out there

01:15:31.860 and it ended up losing millions of dollars as well

01:15:34.500 before they shut it down.

01:15:35.960 Again, these alternative energy things,

01:15:38.040 not wise investments, kids, even if they're woke.

01:15:41.120 All right, let's wrap things up here.

01:15:43.360 Tomorrow, I got Marcel Latushka come on.

01:15:45.280 We're going to talk a lot of political policy.

01:15:46.840 For those who are familiar with him, he's been on before.

01:15:48.480 He used to run the Institute for Public Sector Accountability.

01:15:54.840 So that's a big task to take on.

01:15:56.520 And he's an author of a number of books.

01:15:58.180 Also going to talk to the Western Standard columnist,

01:16:00.060 It's Dave Makachuk, and we'll cover some of the latest stuff he's been putting out, including some of the stuff out in China.

01:16:05.880 The pipeline, we're going to be recording that a little later.

01:16:09.380 And David Naylor and Derek and I, Derek Filderrand, we're all going to talk about the debate and really break that down in full.

01:16:15.680 And that'll come out a little about 7 o'clock tonight.

01:16:18.220 So, yes, all that to check out, guys, plus everything on the westernstandard.news.

01:16:23.180 And I'll see you all again tomorrow at 11.30 a.m. sharp.

01:16:26.100 Thanks for joining me today.

01:16:30.060 Thank you.

01:17:00.060 Thank you.

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