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00:00:30.000 Good morning. Welcome to Triggered. I'm Corey Morgan. This is February 16th, 2022. This show

00:00:54.760 going to be coming to you live daily at 11 30 a.m mountain standard monday to friday our intrepid

00:01:00.520 producer nico i'm afraid couldn't make it in today but he set me up excellently we won't quite have

00:01:05.080 the bells and whistles that i typically have during the show but it'll be very good i got a

00:01:09.000 couple of fantastic guests coming up we've got a lot of things to discuss of course uh it's it's

00:01:15.160 been just insane lately with the news we're trying to keep up we're running hard these are perilous

00:01:21.880 perilous times that's the only way i can really put it you know uh the world has gone mad uh let's

00:01:28.040 have a look here so i'm gonna have later on at 11 50 mike thomas he's a western standard columnist

00:01:34.440 he's written things on my buddy old gil mcgowan and uh on real estate trends he writes a lot on

00:01:40.600 real estate and on vaccine passports all items well worthy of discussion he's going to come in

00:01:45.880 studio we'll have a good talk after that i'm going to talk to adam richardson this is a

00:01:49.800 a, he's sort of a longtime political activist. He's gotten out of formal politics, but he lives

00:01:55.620 in New Brunswick and he's been strongly impacted by vaccine mandates and things such as that.

00:02:01.820 And I really want to discuss with people, talk about that human impact. You know, people talk

00:02:06.080 about it being a minor inconvenience with mandates and problems with that. And it's important to

00:02:11.240 realize, no, these mandates are truly actually hurting people that they're causing difficulty.

00:02:15.180 and he's going to speak of his experience with it and of course just some good discussion on

00:02:20.060 liberty-minded issues and such with that uh with where liberty's suffering in general right now

00:02:27.200 so yes getting on to i i do want to start into something that's uh a little personal in a way

00:02:34.120 uh of those people we we saw the list of people who had been arrested uh in coots area with the

00:02:40.960 firearms and things such as that. One of the people I was in shock this morning when I saw it

00:02:45.460 and I found out that one of the individuals on that list is a friend of mine. Not a real close

00:02:50.240 close one. You know, I haven't seen him actually in a couple of months, but I would call him a

00:02:54.100 friend. And I was pretty staggered to see him on that list. Now we've got a lot of misinformation

00:02:59.460 going on about all sorts of things with the mandates, with the arrests, with the border

00:03:06.020 crossings with the emergency disease act with the doxing of people you name it um one thing though

00:03:11.800 people talking about saying that the entire thing that happened on the border or those people

00:03:15.860 arrested it that it was a red flag operation and it was all rcmp officers i i don't know any more

00:03:21.420 than you guys do about it but what i do know is my friend is certainly not an rcmp officer by any

00:03:27.540 means or uh you know he's definitely not tied into that and and i so i doubt that whatever that

00:03:34.900 circumstance was it was a holy or an rcmp operation by any means though rcmp does a lot of

00:03:42.740 goofy loopy things i mean they they we also heard reports that you know uh an rcmp officer had been

00:03:48.660 assaulted from down there and that wasn't true where as i've talked about before the rcmp actually

00:03:52.860 blew up a well an oil facility up in northern alberta to try and catch weevil ludwig so

00:03:57.620 you know you take everything they put out with a grain of salt uh either way i i'm just

00:04:03.560 concern for the sake of my friend. I hope he's okay. I don't know what happened. I don't know

00:04:08.380 what his involvement was exactly or what it was about, but, uh, these are just shocking times.

00:04:15.420 And that one caught me off guard. Uh, and again, I don't know anything more about the details than

00:04:20.780 you guys. And it's just all in the news at this point, strange, strange days. Now I want to go

00:04:27.760 more into talking about things in general. I'll put that aside. You know, I've got nothing else

00:04:31.880 i can say about that and uh we'll just be watching as it develops i i certainly hope everybody's okay

00:04:37.160 uh the division this this whole you know things that get me concerned in general and and just

00:04:42.920 what's happening to our society right now over this pandemic over this this taking of people

00:04:49.480 and segregating them demonizing them villainizing them we're watching the bloody state broadcaster

00:04:55.000 doxing people for not people not familiar with the internet term on what that is it

00:04:58.520 It means they're taking their identities and sharing them with the world.

00:05:01.020 So they're grabbing people who had donated.

00:05:03.520 I guess the list had been hacked and the people who donated to support the truckers convoy has been shared.

00:05:09.860 And our sick, and I'll call them that sick, state broadcaster is sharing those people's names.

00:05:14.980 I mean, you know, it's funny because borderline communists, if indeed they're communist, if they're indeed borderline, like the ones at the CBC, I'm certain were pretty repulsed with McCarthyism,

00:05:26.400 which was that period in the states where people were called out as communists and shunned and

00:05:30.280 you know lost jobs lost livelihoods had to leave neighborhoods that's exactly what they're doing

00:05:35.440 now with people who donated to the the truckers for freedom uh convoy you know they're outing 1.00

00:05:42.320 them as terrorists there was a woman who had to shut down her business because it was getting 0.81

00:05:44.740 threatened because that information was put out there uh social media hypocrites you know they 0.92

00:05:49.180 they talked about and they blocked a lot of stuff in the past on twitter and things like that when

00:05:52.700 shared because they say it's hacked information and we can't share it but apparently it's okay

00:05:57.300 to share this information from the people who donated to the freedom convoy and again really

00:06:02.420 could screw up some people's lives who was just somebody who felt like pulling out a credit card

00:06:06.920 and supporting movement they felt was good and and now this is what's happening to them and the

00:06:13.400 term I'm going to use because I'll talk about left turning right right turning left or whatever

00:06:16.560 class war you know that was a term used a lot in the past by the unions by the left

00:06:22.600 by progressives it was talking about how there was an elite you know of of uh in that in those

00:06:29.280 days it was industrialists and business owners and that's led to the winnipeg strikes you know

00:06:33.160 if you want to see parallels western working people crossed the country into a and it led

00:06:40.340 to a large battle in winnipeg in the middle where they met with the rcmp on trying to strike for

00:06:45.640 workers rights and that was back when the class war was going on the laurentian elite in ottawa

00:06:50.080 that are still entrenched there. They're just different names. You know, we're holding down

00:06:54.140 working people in the West. Well, now this class war is ironically being pushed and supported 0.89

00:06:58.920 by unions and socialists, but they're still, it's the same tones. They're talking down on working

00:07:04.560 people, the unwashed, you know, the targeting of them. When I had Barbara Kay on yesterday,

00:07:09.620 she talked about how, again, surprisingly out of Andrew Coyne, I guess maybe not that

00:07:15.900 surprisingly. He's always been a bit snobby, but he was calling them yobs and things such as that.

00:07:20.740 These are just people that are concerned about their rights and they're getting demonized and

00:07:25.260 talked down to. And the academics are no better. This thing has been the target of snotty disdain

00:07:33.400 from the establishment for weeks and I'm sick of it. And it's dividing families, it's dividing

00:07:38.140 households, it's causing real damage. I'm worried about the long-term damage we're going to have

00:07:43.360 to society over this with people, family members that might not meet again anymore, with people

00:07:49.100 who are losing their jobs, with people who are ashamed of, and they shouldn't be, of taking

00:07:53.680 different political stances. They're being painted as extreme or poorly educated. And you know, the

00:07:58.640 bottom line is the establishment's frightened. People got up and pushed back. Farmers, truckers.

00:08:05.000 I mean, NDP leader Jagmeet Singh has been front and center in this campaign. He's been calling

00:08:09.080 them all racists and everything else. It's ridiculous. It's insulting. It's sick. And it's 0.99

00:08:13.620 class war. It's trying to dehumanize these people on there and make them sound subhuman. And I'm 0.85

00:08:21.220 tired of it. You know, this is really harming our country. Let's see. I don't know if I have the

00:08:26.860 images in, but I'll read some tweets. For example, this was through it from a discussion that came

00:08:30.160 from political scientist, Dwayne Bratt. He didn't say these things, by the way, this was just in

00:08:34.180 response to his tweet, but it shows the gang he runs with. And one person is Bonnie French,

00:08:39.100 who tweeted saying, I'm going to guarantee you if I did a literacy screener, many of the

00:08:43.560 protesters have been failed by the education system for generations. They are marginalized

00:08:47.600 by the lack of education and rely on physical jobs to make a living. They worship the rugged

00:08:52.880 individual. Yeah. You know, unwashed menial labor people, people below her, people who aren't worth

00:08:59.500 taking seriously because they do physical jobs these are uneducated ogres troglodytes you know 0.99

00:09:06.400 whatever the terms these these snotty jerks want to use for them that's the tone we're getting 0.99

00:09:11.380 that's what we're talking about these are citizens we're talking about these are fellow citizens and 0.99

00:09:15.680 this is what the talk with people like Dwayne Bratt this clown this one I do have the picture

00:09:19.480 Bill Wilson pickup trucks are a clue to the type of folks there this is primarily an urban versus

00:09:25.620 rural issue people in cities don't know or people in cities know we work together rural folks want 0.72

00:09:31.380 free dumb yes dumb you know because they do talk about people who work with pickup trucks work with 0.99

00:09:36.220 their hands are apparently dumb you know i worked 20 years with a pickup truck bill i was out there 1.00

00:09:43.980 in the energy sector getting oil and gas to keep what's probably a fat ass ears warm i mean am i 0.99

00:09:50.440 dumb i don't know i mean if we really wanted to have an intellectual dick measuring contest i got 0.99

00:09:54.700 feeling you would come up short bill i would emasculate you before you go running to find 1.00

00:09:59.580 out what that means bill it means i would figuratively cut your nuts off and before 0.98

00:10:04.540 you go out and grab your athletic cup look up figuratively but either way uh this is is just 0.70

00:10:11.740 not tolerable at this time it's got to stop in this sort of discussion this is our fellow canadians

00:10:17.100 this is not good for us at all this is a real big problem and you know class war was the term used

00:10:23.100 for it. And I think class war is the appropriate term now for it. And we've got to call these guys 0.93

00:10:28.960 out. We've got to push back. How insulting to the people who work, the farmers, the blue collar

00:10:33.020 workers, you name it. The elitism, it just drips from these people. I don't think they understand

00:10:37.860 what they're provoking. They've pushed people into standing up for themselves that were typically

00:10:41.340 quiet. Now, I'm going to close this a little bit of a rant. I don't have my regular teleprompter.

00:10:46.520 That's why it's been a little broken, but I can still always ramble on as I go. For people who

00:10:52.480 watched fight club before again one of my favorite movies just absolutely love it especially as i was

00:10:56.800 just some 30 something guy when it came out too and uh you know that that angst message but there's

00:11:01.920 a great rant from it from tyler durden i believe this was actually a rant given if people remember

00:11:07.600 the movie when they had a fellow tied down in a uh public bathroom and they had elastic band

00:11:11.920 around his nether regions and they were threatening to cut his parts off and he's got in his face and

00:11:15.840 said the people you're trying to step on we're everyone you depend on we're the people who do

00:11:20.800 your laundry and cook your food and serve your dinner we make your bed we guard you while you're

00:11:24.960 asleep we drive the ambulances we direct your call we're cooks and taxi drivers and we know

00:11:30.320 everything about you we process your insurance claims and credit card charges we control every

00:11:35.680 part of your life keep that in mind elitists yeah that's a movie line but you know what those are

00:11:40.720 the people you're stepping on those are the ones you're doxing those are the ones you're victimizing

00:11:46.980 Maybe one of those ones is the guy who's supposed to clean your drain and you're going to have to be knee deep in feces the next time your drain gets plugged because he got sick of your attitude talking about working people.

00:11:57.160 You know, maybe that insurance agent's going to forget to process your claim a little too fast.

00:12:01.920 Quit stepping on the working people, you guys.

00:12:03.740 They're pushing back and you're only making them angrier and you're going to pay the price for it.

00:12:08.580 All right, that's enough out of me. 0.99

00:12:10.300 Let's bring Melanie Risden into the show for a news check-in. 1.00

00:12:14.240 She's been working like crazy. 1.00

00:12:15.200 We've had Dave dragged in here all the time. It's time to get another person's face in there. Hey, 1.00

00:12:20.920 Melanie, how you doing? I'm well. I'm well. How are you? Very good. Thanks. Good. So yeah,

00:12:27.580 let's talk to the news today. Well, we're digging into a few things right now. Currently on the

00:12:33.800 site, we have, of course, lots of stories around what's happening in Ottawa with the Emergencies

00:12:41.540 act uh and uh the the crackdown on protesters right now there has been a letter released to

00:12:48.580 protesters from the ottawa police warning people they have to leave the area they are facing

00:12:54.500 possible arrest or fines of up to five thousand dollars for uh for being present in the protest

00:13:01.380 for having children at the protest um there's a number of things that they are are looking at

00:13:07.060 doing including seizing vehicles from protesters who are still on site they are also talking about

00:13:15.700 the option to have driver's licenses revoked and or suspended for some of the truckers and

00:13:24.100 and other ordinary people whose vehicles have not been moved from the site so that is happening now

00:13:30.100 in Ottawa. There was also a request from the press gallery at the parliament for parliamentary

00:13:40.340 protective services to be supporting the press gallery. So on our tax-funded dollars, the press

00:13:46.820 do not feel safe going in and out of the parliament. So they are asking for that security

00:13:54.260 to to assist them to their vehicles to get in and out of uh of covering what's happening at

00:14:00.020 parliament at the time or at this time uh there's also uh the feds are saying that um

00:14:07.780 this is all because of a very small organized group not necessarily uh focused on vaccines

00:14:16.900 and mandates, but more so with an ideology to overthrow the government. So the feds are sort

00:14:24.440 of taking aim at, again, what they're calling a very small organized group. RCMP are investigating

00:14:34.360 digital currency donations as well that have come in and in support of the truckers and the

00:14:42.700 Occupy Ottawa protest. So RCMP are looking into the digital currency situation with those

00:14:51.980 donations. Now, I really, you know, I unfortunately, maybe you, Corey, know a little bit more

00:14:57.840 about it. A lot of people assume that digital currency is well sheltered, perhaps maybe not.

00:15:05.720 Yeah, well, from what I can gather so far, and they would certainly love to get into your

00:15:10.860 digital currency wallets the government can't get there they can't touch it but what they can do is

00:15:16.540 get every bank that you deal with to seize your money if you transfer digital currency into it

00:15:21.980 like the thing is digital currency you have to at least at one point or another convert it into

00:15:26.220 something you can utilize for purchase so if it's transferred into your bank to take out cash or

00:15:31.260 things like that then that might be the time they reach in and snatch it it's very disturbing that

00:15:35.340 we have a government that feels that they could steal funds like that but they're they're getting

00:15:39.100 ready to try yeah that's right so they've got that investigation going a lot of other stuff

00:15:44.220 happening as well authorities searching for a woman who was filmed dancing on the tomb of the

00:15:49.180 unknown soldier now that happened uh kind of late january but they are still on the hunt for uh this

00:15:56.380 woman who we have a picture of her up on our website right now if anyone's interested in

00:16:02.380 having a look at that. Also, a former Conservative MP, Joy Smith, still fighting hard against

00:16:09.280 human trafficking. Kind of a disturbing story when you really look into it. Canada's sex

00:16:16.400 trafficking looks like a lot of them, over 90% of those involved are Canadian-born, 12 to 14 years

00:16:26.600 old when they enter the sex trafficking industry. And a trafficker makes the average of $280,000

00:16:35.080 per year from one trafficked child. That's just horrible. And that's an issue. It seems like

00:16:42.020 they never want to talk about it. We keep talking about it on the outside, but the mainstream doesn't

00:16:45.860 want to. It's good to see at least people have profile former MPs. And I know there's a number

00:16:49.400 of people been trying to bring that issue to light. It's an important one. Absolutely. We also

00:16:54.240 have a few things we're working on right now. The Western Standard is doing an exclusive dig

00:16:59.200 into the Emergencies Act and some discrepancies that have been discovered. So we'll have,

00:17:07.840 Eva will have that coming out fairly soon on the website. We're also going to be posting the names

00:17:14.240 of those arrested in coots. Some of them are facing conspiracy to murder charges. So we'll

00:17:22.720 have some information and i know you had mentioned that uh that you know somebody um and uh i i

00:17:29.920 imagine that's as you mentioned a little bit um uh disturbing to to discover i'm watching with

00:17:38.320 concern you know again i don't know anything more about it than anybody else but i mean he's he's a

00:17:43.600 whatever happened he's a good person from a good family and and uh i i'll just uh watch and wait

00:17:48.560 as the details come up but it was pretty flooring when i saw that name on there so yeah that's what

00:17:54.080 we're working on right now lots on there to to check out right now on the website great well

00:18:00.160 thank you very much i know you've been busy as all get out and you've done a lot of great interviews

00:18:04.080 yourself out there with the standard so it's that reminder to everybody if you want to see more of

00:18:07.920 mel rather than my scowling face check out our youtube channel and scroll down she's got a lot

00:18:12.240 of excellent ones out there and of course you're constantly writing great news for us so thanks

00:18:16.800 Thanks, Melanie, and I'll talk to you later.

00:18:18.380 Okay, sounds good.

00:18:19.420 Great.

00:18:21.180 So, yes, that was Melanie Rizdin.

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00:20:29.280 Okay, we'll just squeeze Mike in a little closer.

00:20:31.360 A little tighter.

00:20:31.840 Yeah, there we go.

00:20:32.960 Okay, we can hear you nice and clearly. So this is Western Standard columnist Mike Thomas. You've

00:20:37.200 been very prolific lately. You've written a number of columns, more than I've managed to find time to

00:20:41.120 squeeze in.

00:20:41.600 Well, you're busy doing this though, you know.

00:20:44.160 There's only so much I can get out. But yeah, I mean, it's good to have you back on. It's good

00:20:49.760 to get people in live.

00:20:51.760 Always good to be here with you, Corey.

00:20:53.600 yeah so i'd just like to start with the columns you've been writing the most recent one i saw

00:20:57.840 when i went down there my buddy uh and yours old gill mcgowan the head of the alberta federation

00:21:02.880 of labor has been uh pretty active in his anti-freedom activities lately yeah um i wrote

00:21:08.640 about them wanting to uh continue the lockdown or covet restrictions and of course i think it's

00:21:17.280 it's way past time to lift them all all over the world countries are doing it the provinces are

00:21:22.000 They're all jumped in. Heck, Doug Ford jumped in and got it done.

00:21:25.980 BC's not far behind. And they want to still mask the kids in school.

00:21:30.000 If they had their way, they'd bring them all back. They'd lock us down.

00:21:33.640 The passport would still be in effect. And, you know, it doesn't take a really smart guy because I saw it.

00:21:40.480 This isn't about health. It's all about control. Unions and in particular, the NDP party, I think, their whole governance model is nothing but control.

00:21:55.260 Yeah, I mean, that's the bottom line.

00:21:56.700 I was talking a bit in my rant, just the irony of it, you know, whereas actually in some senses, the left used to be for individual rights.

00:22:03.360 I mean, we had the prairie socialists.

00:22:05.080 They were still socialists, but they wanted the working people to have, you know, control over themselves, the ability to move ahead without government or industry telling them what to do.

00:22:13.460 And it's come full circle.

00:22:14.300 These are now the control elite are the labor groups, and Gil represents a lot of them.

00:22:19.560 Yeah, I was talking to a couple of friends the other day about conservative versus liberal.

00:22:24.500 And I tossed this out to see what people would say. And I said, there is no really such thing as a liberal anymore. The people, the liberals have gone so far left that I don't think there's a liberal still around. Liberals used to be in favor of more open democracy and things like that, but they're gone.

00:22:44.100 Yeah, I mean, if anything, actually, you know, I'm giving it a title.

00:22:46.440 And so on classical liberal is one of the ones that lands on me, I like to think, at least self-styled wise.

00:22:51.060 I mean, I tend to be more of a libertarian mindset, socially liberal, but fiscally conservative.

00:22:55.680 I just work everything out of my hair.

00:22:56.780 I don't have everybody else's hair.

00:22:58.200 But now liberal means something awfully different.

00:23:00.400 I like using the term classical liberal because it just takes too long to explain to somebody what it means anymore.

00:23:06.060 You're a liberal.

00:23:06.620 Well, not exactly.

00:23:07.360 Not really.

00:23:07.940 Yeah.

00:23:08.700 So, yeah, old Gil.

00:23:10.520 You know, I mean, it was good to see the courts, though.

00:23:12.300 i mean they did step up and say gill no it's not happening yeah it's not your turf i know they tried

00:23:16.940 to organize student walkouts which kind of were a flop as well well you know it's funny i heard

00:23:20.540 that on the radio and the big if somebody on on the radio talking about this massive school walkout

00:23:26.140 in a school of 1200 kids and i think 50 walked yeah i talked about that yesterday so it was

00:23:30.380 nelson mandela school and yeah we had uh you know a talk radio station we're talking about that oh

00:23:35.020 wow it was a big walk out 50 out of over 1200 students come on but you know what the the unions

00:23:41.660 are really asking for i mean they want you to stop not be able to to get together with people when you

00:23:47.500 want to where you want to how you want to they don't want you to be able to travel at on a whim

00:23:53.020 like we used to be able to do and the passport prevented that the lockdowns prevented that and

00:23:58.460 they want to see that continue so they're they're not talking about health they're talking about

00:24:02.620 taking your freedoms back away from you well that's it and that's been the frustration this

00:24:06.940 whole thing is how it's morphed now. You know, it used to be about health and I think a lot of

00:24:11.740 the initial people supporting this, they really felt this is the way we're going to get under

00:24:15.100 control. This is the way we're going to keep the hospitals from overwhelmed. But I mean,

00:24:18.700 the numbers are in now, guys, it's not trial period anymore. And these haven't been effective

00:24:23.980 in keeping hospitalizations down. I mean, I still agree. And I know all the commenters will go wild.

00:24:29.100 I think getting vaccinated is a good idea. I think it'll reduce your chances of getting an

00:24:32.300 adverse event if you if you do get an infection sure but it has to be a choice it has to be a

00:24:38.060 choice definitely we've got record numbers of people vaccinated on this um and again what's

00:24:43.900 frightening is the only ones left we were talking about that in the newsroom earlier you know are

00:24:47.740 people who just absolutely for whatever reason they will not they do not want to be and they're

00:24:51.820 not going to no nothing short of pinning them down and ejecting them is going to do it so why

00:24:57.260 don't we just accept that you know right now we're demonizing them we're putting them out of work

00:25:01.500 we're separating them from family it's it's awful well that's one of the most interesting things i

00:25:06.380 found when jason kenny announced uh eliminating the passport i think the most important thing he

00:25:11.740 said there is in a paraphrase um all the people who are going to get vaccinated have been vaccinated

00:25:18.700 the passport was to encourage people to get vaccinated it's not a health measure except for

00:25:24.060 maybe you know maybe don't get quite as ill but he said that very thing which i thought that's you

00:25:29.420 you know, dead on. Well done.

00:25:31.160 Yeah. It's not preventing the spread. You still get that talk.

00:25:33.820 You get some of those people say,

00:25:35.020 I don't want to be in a restaurant with unvaccinated people.

00:25:37.280 I don't want to be in a restaurant with somebody who's unmasked. 0.89

00:25:39.820 I mean, we're seeing people who have been fully vaccinated around masked people

00:25:42.860 and still get infected. And thankfully it's a light infection,

00:25:45.340 but we can't pretend that this stops infection transmission anymore.

00:25:47.900 We know it doesn't.

00:25:48.540 Well, it's like I wrote, you know,

00:25:49.660 understandably there are still people who are very afraid of this thing.

00:25:54.540 And that was the government's marketing job was to scare the heck out of all

00:25:59.400 of us and they did a great job and a lot of people are still of that illusion which is fine you're

00:26:05.160 entitled to that but there are measures in place that to make you feel safe you can still wear a

00:26:10.840 mask you can still get vaxxed all you all you want i mean there are businesses in in western

00:26:15.800 can i know there's some here in calgary that still require you to show your passport so you know if

00:26:21.480 you're if you're concerned about it seek those businesses out and give them your business

00:26:25.880 everything's good absolutely go to them i mean again that's where my libertarian street comes

00:26:29.640 out i still believe they should allow smoking in business i haven't had a cigarette in like 12 years

00:26:34.440 and i can't stand being around smoke when i eat anymore but you know what if that's what they

00:26:37.800 want to choose as long as there's a sign on that i won't go to it because i don't want to eat it

00:26:40.920 exactly let them go though that's their business exactly it should be up to the individual business

00:26:46.200 yeah that's it's a that control it'll be interesting to watch and i am watching that

00:26:49.800 closely with a couple and i won't call them out but of bars who think that they cornered a good

00:26:53.400 niche by saying, we're going to do that. Maybe it'll work for them. Maybe there's that amount

00:26:57.480 of people. It's their business. Absolutely. I agree with that. I suspect they're going to drop

00:27:01.720 it pretty soon. As a restaurant owner, I know no move where you will suddenly eliminate 15 to 20%

00:27:07.160 of your clientele on a narrow margin business is going to be a good move for you in the long run.

00:27:11.800 No, that's for sure. We'll see. It's their business. Go ahead.

00:27:15.400 Getting further, I mean, talking about business or real estate trends, you've been writing on that

00:27:19.800 And talking about bubbles, which always puts people a bit of a chill into them, especially if they've recently signed into a big mortgage.

00:27:26.240 Getting a mortgage is frightening, quite frankly, especially first time, second time, third time.

00:27:32.620 It's still a little frightening.

00:27:33.980 Well, mortgages last longer than a lot of marriages.

00:27:35.780 Well, exactly. Yes, they do.

00:27:37.940 I know mine did.

00:27:38.660 yeah um the the fact that toronto uh overtook vancouver is the priciest city in in in canada

00:27:48.500 for housing started the bubble talk which is you know that happens all the time um

00:27:54.340 bubble is caused when when demand is up and supply is down which chases prices up to the

00:28:01.460 point where nobody can afford to buy them anymore so now if you want to sell you if you need to sell

00:28:06.100 your house you've got to bring the price down and now a bunch of houses the mortgages are higher

00:28:10.980 than what the house is valued at and people then will panic and they start selling and boom now

00:28:18.020 you got a bubble the thing the way to handle that is just keep your eye on the market um

00:28:24.100 know what your mortgage terms are uh the banks don't want to own your house they don't want you

00:28:29.700 to go into default they don't want to take that house back to you they want you to keep paying

00:28:34.340 sure but most lenders that i know of if you're if you're if you're facing a problem with making your

00:28:39.860 mortgage payments sit down with your lender have a chat they can extend the term they can reduce

00:28:45.220 the payments they could they'll work with you to keep your house in your hands um because

00:28:52.500 everybody thinks back to 2008 with a big recession that was predicated on a housing bubble in the

00:28:58.340 united states massive because people people were getting mortgage when they shouldn't get a mortgage

00:29:04.340 It was a subprime scheme that built that.

00:29:06.880 Exactly.

00:29:08.160 And they were packaging mortgages and selling them to the big financial houses.

00:29:12.320 Everything just brought down because of the housing bubble.

00:29:16.440 Is there always a chance for a bubble?

00:29:18.340 Sure, there is.

00:29:19.700 But it's important how you manage your own personal finances.

00:29:24.040 Don't look at the other guy.

00:29:25.380 Keep an eye on the market in terms of price trends and sales trends and the supply in the market,

00:29:30.260 which is going to be uh this year an even bigger issue than it was last year um new housing starts

00:29:37.620 were posted by cmhc canon mortgage housing corporation yesterday and uh the x the number

00:29:44.580 that were expected new homes expected to be built were way below what they were expected so um

00:29:51.780 there's always a lag between starting uh construction of a house to when it's actually

00:29:57.380 available for sale but the other problem i think going on right now and talking to builders

00:30:01.940 is um i know for a period there some of the builders had to stop selling they closed their

00:30:07.140 show homes because they couldn't build them because they weren't getting materials or labor

00:30:12.580 uh so builders traditionally will build a what they call a spec house speculative

00:30:18.660 that you could go and look at because it gives you an idea uh what they can do plus the fact

00:30:25.220 it's already completed you don't have to go through a construction period you can buy that

00:30:29.300 house right now from the builders my guess is the builders aren't doing a lot of spec homes right now

00:30:35.060 which really reduces the supply and the inventory um so that supply is going to be a big big issue

00:30:42.900 this year uh the bank of canada has already announced it's going to attack that by trying

00:30:48.660 to reduce demand which they do by raising their overnight prime rate which has shown in the past

00:30:54.500 to work a bit but i don't know what the governments really need to do is lighten up a little bit with

00:31:02.100 all the red tape that builders need to go through in order to get a house built talking to to a

00:31:09.300 builder here a couple weeks ago and he says you know mike i build if i build a house a new model

00:31:16.340 i have to go to the city get a building permit and they come and look at the house but if i

00:31:21.220 I built that identical house right next door, I still have to go get a permit for it, even

00:31:26.040 though I got a permit for the same house there. So another guy's got to come out and look

00:31:30.740 at the second house, which is the same with the first house. Shouldn't I get one permit

00:31:34.840 for all the models that look like that? That makes sense. Cuts down the red tape, speeds 1.00

00:31:38.780 up the process, and would put more supply on the market. I mean, not rapidly, but it

00:31:43.420 would put more supply on the market.

00:31:45.380 Well, that's always at the basis of everything is supply and demand. I honestly feel that's

00:31:51.000 whole heart of a lot of you know if you're going to talk about left right mind left-minded people

00:31:55.240 the right-minded people in political thinking i swear a lot of leftists have a problem with just

00:31:59.560 understanding supply and demand whether it comes to labor whether it comes to consumer goods

00:32:03.240 they just can't seem to grasp that this is a scientific law not a theory and uh i agree i

00:32:08.920 agree with that and why that is i don't know no i really don't know we're disconnected you see some 0.65

00:32:13.800 of that then when i'm talking it's not a matter of supply we saw that with that that ridiculous

00:32:17.240 study the CMHC commissioned where they said it has nothing to do with supply what we need to do is

00:32:22.520 tax it more and that's what will bring down the cost of housing what sort of economic mental

00:32:27.400 disconnect have you got to have to come up with that yet that's where where they are well I know

00:32:32.440 but how do you add a tax to something to make it less expensive I don't know I mean getting back to

00:32:37.400 when I used to smoke a long long time ago it just got more and more expensive whenever they taxed

00:32:41.000 it so yeah it you know it's ridiculous I mean the thing that will slow it as you said though

00:32:46.440 though, is raising interest rates. That's a, and we're seeing that, you know,

00:32:49.140 that's how the banks often deal with general inflation,

00:32:52.200 which again could put people in a very difficult situation.

00:32:54.740 So if they're worried about their mortgage, I guess, again, the time, maybe if you,

00:32:57.480 if you can manage it right now, stick with it,

00:32:59.220 look at the long game and don't do anything panicked right now.

00:33:02.880 Well, that's perfectly well said. It is a long game.

00:33:05.880 This isn't like buying a car where you're paying it off in a couple of years or a

00:33:09.960 year or pay cash for it. No mortgage is a 25 year game.

00:33:15.040 So you're going to hit some rough spots. There's no question about it,

00:33:18.160 but don't panic. Don't listen to uncle Fred's advice. Go talk to a pro.

00:33:23.560 Absolutely. I'm getting back around. We kind of covered that in the first part,

00:33:26.800 but there's some truth in the city hall, speaking of which anyways,

00:33:29.200 when we're talking about regulation and the difficulties with home building and

00:33:32.360 so on, you know, Ted Winslow on talking about that before too,

00:33:35.040 some great conversations. But watching you,

00:33:37.840 you wrote about the vaccine passports.

00:33:39.400 That was one of your columns on westerstandardonline.com too. And we talked about how,

00:33:43.060 you know, again, they have limited use. It's been interesting to watch. So City Hall, you can see

00:33:46.640 that they reluctantly have backed off, you know, they don't want to, I mean, let those controls go,

00:33:53.860 but they realize they've lost that battle. That's kind of refreshing to see, you know, it was

00:33:56.900 a 15 to two to get rid of the masking and there are 13 to two out of 15. Yeah. And a little bit

00:34:04.480 of a wider spread when it came to examining a vaccine passport. So Edmonton though has a battle

00:34:09.600 going on. They're still not giving up on this yet. No, I think that they, well, maybe for masks,

00:34:14.660 but they're going in line with the province on passports, I believe. Yeah, and they're going

00:34:19.160 kicking and screaming though with everything. Oh, of course they are. And that's funny again,

00:34:22.900 and I mean, I was listening to that discussed. I mean, do you believe the experts? People,

00:34:27.500 experts are handy when they agree with you and not when you don't. So the province, you know,

00:34:31.580 when the province is locking down, suddenly, hey, Hinshaw's right, you know, according to the

00:34:35.020 municipal governance, we should do this. Absolutely, we're on board. But now they're

00:34:38.860 Hinshaw doesn't know what she's talking about. We have to take over as municipalities and override 0.88

00:34:42.540 her somehow. I think one thing over the past couple of years, with all of the experts that

00:34:48.220 have popped up in the media, one thing the experts have proved, I think, is that there aren't as many

00:34:55.420 experts as they think there are. Well, there are a lot, but it's like anything when you get too

00:35:00.300 many, the quality degrades. So trying to find the gems in the bunch can be problematic, to say the

00:35:07.820 least. But yeah. Well, geez, the time went fast though.

00:35:14.300 We've had a good chat. Yeah.

00:35:15.900 Yeah. That's good. Anything else you want?

00:35:18.060 I don't know. Is there something you want to go on?

00:35:19.580 No, I've got more columns in the burner.

00:35:21.100 I got some stuff up my sleeve that I, that I maybe teach you.

00:35:25.580 I found for the most expensive house in the United States of America is up for sale.

00:35:32.380 It's in LA, obviously. $295 million U.S. dollars.

00:35:38.800 I don't think anything in California is really worth that much.

00:35:40.680 I mean, a lot of the heavyweights are taking off for Florida and Texas these days.

00:35:44.400 Well, that story will be in this afternoon, Corey. You have a look at...

00:35:47.300 Okay, absolutely.

00:35:49.900 Well, that would take a number of lottery wins before you qualify for it.

00:35:55.200 374 million Canadian, but it's got 21 bedrooms.

00:35:58.720 So, you know, start doing some math, rent them out, maybe pay for it.

00:36:02.380 I mean, you could sleep in a different bedroom every night for three weeks solid and then assuming you're going to afford a maid, you know, they'll change all the sheets.

00:36:10.380 You know what? This house has got separate corridors and hallways for the staff.

00:36:14.380 For that price, I would hope so.

00:36:15.380 Yes.

00:36:16.380 Wow. Okay. Well, thanks for coming in. We're looking forward to that column.

00:36:20.380 Gary, thanks. Always a pleasure.

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00:37:10.360 All right. So yes, that was the Western Standard's very own Mike Thomas. I believe he's a veteran of

00:37:15.800 the Sun Media News in the past, but that's one of the things is the legacy media has been fading

00:37:22.840 out uh there still are some some great uh journalists out there that have come our way

00:37:27.800 from it you know i mean they aren't all bad because they were there in the first place

00:37:30.920 uh something interesting you know uh yeah i see that my guest adam's on deck i'll have him on in

00:37:35.080 a little less than 10 minutes here uh melanie brought up with a crazy notion out of the house

00:37:41.960 of commons i think it was a committee but yeah they're going to give security now to the ottawa

00:37:46.200 press gallery members when they go out they they arm security to guard media members uh

00:37:51.960 this is how bizarre our world has gotten now. Now, a little bit of that is I can kind of see

00:38:01.940 justified. I've seen it at some of the protests and then nobody's gotten violent. I've never seen

00:38:05.860 one of them get violent, but boy, they really do get in the face of mainstream media members when

00:38:10.160 they show up at those things. At the same time, the mainstream media has been treating these

00:38:14.320 protesters like crap. They've been misinformation. They've been mischaracterizing them. They've been 1.00

00:38:19.200 doing selective reporting. They've been doing, you know, main streeting to make them look stupid. 1.00

00:38:23.680 So, I mean, you guys brought the hostility upon yourselves and it doesn't justify people 0.99

00:38:28.420 potentially getting violent with you. Absolutely not. But, you know, when you're at least giving

00:38:33.400 the finger and people saying, I won't talk to you, I'm sorry, guys, you made that bed. You earned

00:38:37.680 that with your years of rotten coverage and particularly this three weeks of just repugnant 0.91

00:38:44.640 coverage from the legacy media outlets it's been sick to watch how unbalanced those guys are you

00:38:49.920 know and i'm not talking well there's a few ways you can take unbalanced but it has been awful

00:38:56.320 um you know we're going to be talking about the the emergencies act and things too that that's

00:39:01.120 really of course what's dominating the news and i know it works people up on on social media which

00:39:05.600 is fine that's what i do uh if you want to see where i work them up the most go to follow me on

00:39:09.600 on the Twitter, you know, Corey B. Morgan is my Twitter handle there. And they hate it when I

00:39:16.040 keep referring to it as the rebranded War Measures Act. But that's what it is, guys. They got rid of

00:39:21.680 one and they replaced it with another. Oh, I know they changed some terms and they did some things

00:39:25.040 in it. But it's the same thing. It's an act to be brought in in the case of the most dire of

00:39:30.740 emergencies. This is an act you bring in when the government is completely lost control. I got to

00:39:36.820 they're not being very good at controlling these things but when it's putting the nation at risk

00:39:40.900 when it's putting sovereignty at risk again as i said the zombies have got to be having their

00:39:44.420 hands bursting out of the graves before you consider these measures you've got to have the

00:39:47.940 alien ships landing in the middle of cities you've got to have a foreign nation invading

00:39:52.260 where you really do actually have to have some sort of insurrection that has taken over a large

00:39:57.620 part of the country and plans to make a new nation none of this is happening not even close

00:40:04.820 and some of the powers i mean you see when you open the the pandora's box of this emergencies

00:40:09.620 act and they put out some of the specifics in it what they want to do with it there's nothing in

00:40:13.300 it about bringing soldiers out there's nothing in it uh about grabbing people and arresting without

00:40:19.300 warrant because those are things that happened when the war measures act was brought in in 1970

00:40:23.380 well you see when you bring that measure in though there's a big silent if hiding in the

00:40:28.260 background that door is open and if they still can't get control with measures they're already

00:40:32.420 taking, they will expand the control. And that's where some of that basis in the act comes from.

00:40:38.560 That's why this is such a big deal. We cannot dismiss this. We don't need to bring it in.

00:40:42.720 We're turning into a national, international laughingstock. I've seen more Canadian coverage

00:40:47.820 and news from American stations and Sky News and other foreign ones than I am with our Canadian

00:40:53.560 ones. I'm getting better coverage too of it, to say the least. And this act will allow a lot of

00:40:59.680 gross violations of civil liberties, one of the worst of which is in that act a couple of times

00:41:06.040 where basically they can force you to work for the government. If you own a tow truck and you're

00:41:11.900 capable of towing, they will force you to go out and tow vehicles. If you say, no, I don't want to,

00:41:18.100 you can be fined. You can be arrested. They're putting a gun to your head. You know what that's

00:41:21.900 called? It's forced labor. They say, oh, we'll compensate them at fair prices. Guys, payment for 1.00

00:41:27.900 forced labor is still forced labor. Government forcing you to actually do an action, a physical

00:41:34.220 action. This is insane. This is huge. Don't underestimate where this is going. Same thing

00:41:40.580 with the gun they're putting to the head of the banks. If you don't share the personal information

00:41:44.580 of your customers with us, the government, and if you don't give us their funds, if we deem

00:41:49.540 that they've been incorrectly using them and perhaps funding convoys, we'll find the banks,

00:41:55.860 we'll shut the banks down. We're going to go after people on every level. Your funds, your money is

00:42:00.620 not safe. People are panicked right now and I don't blame them. I mean, we don't know exactly

00:42:04.640 how far that goes. Where do you go? Does it mean they'll seize your whole account if you gave 50

00:42:08.380 bucks to the convoy because now that information has been leaked? Or does it mean they'll take 50

00:42:12.780 bucks? They're talking about, of course, taking the licenses and means of living away from a lot

00:42:17.840 of the people who've been taking part in the protests as well. Things like that. Do you think

00:42:21.560 that's going to calm it? Do you really think it's going to make it better? As I said, whatever's

00:42:26.500 happened down in Coutts, and it's horrifying, I don't know what led to that. But we're going to

00:42:31.280 see other actions from desperate people as the government keeps pushing them into the corner.

00:42:38.180 Look what they're doing. They're not even trying to negotiate. They're not trying to respect.

00:42:42.440 You don't have to agree, but you have to respect them. They're your citizens. They're Canadians.

00:42:47.500 You should respect them, but instead you've villainized them.

00:42:50.860 And with these mandates, a lot of them, you've put them out of work.

00:42:54.460 You've kept them from traveling.

00:42:56.600 You've kept their kids out of sports. 1.00

00:42:59.260 You've made them feel like crap. 0.97

00:43:02.080 And now, if one of them goes broke, or many of them are, 0.98

00:43:06.680 if they're people who feel that they're at the end of the rope,

00:43:12.100 What is more dangerous to everybody than somebody who has hit the end of their rope?

00:43:17.520 You know, it's frayed, they're undone, and potentially they could lash back.

00:43:22.900 And I don't want to see people do that.

00:43:24.480 People shouldn't do that.

00:43:25.400 We don't want to see physical violent conflict or anything like that.

00:43:29.220 But when we got a government determined to put people into a corner, I'm sorry, when people snap, I'm going to hold the government at fault for this.

00:43:37.600 This could be calmed with respectful efforts.

00:43:40.080 the emergencies act wasn't need to clear any of the borders they're all cleared now or at least

00:43:44.600 in the process of it all we have now is a number of protesters in parliament hill in ottawa this

00:43:50.760 does not warrant invoking that act and there's still some time it looks pretty unlikely but

00:43:59.100 the parliament could tell trudeau to stuff it the senate could tell trudeau to stuff it i know

00:44:04.000 people like to talk about the governing general but look she's a figurehead it's not going to

00:44:07.080 happen. She'll do whatever she's told. There's a chance this act will be repealed. Otherwise,

00:44:11.640 though, I think we need to protest. I said that yesterday, and I'm going to say that every day

00:44:15.280 after Saturday. I'm going out in Calgary to the protests on Saturday. I want everybody possible

00:44:21.420 to get out to the streets to peacefully express themselves and say, we will not put up with this.

00:44:26.900 We need to see people out there in the thousands. We need the government to be

00:44:30.000 driven home to them. We need them to know your actions are only making things worse.

00:44:35.340 you're only making us more entrenched making us more inclined to push back you're not going to

00:44:40.640 win back off do not impose this act upon Canadians it hasn't been done in 50 years again people are 1.00

00:44:47.760 calling the truckers terrorists oh come on kiss my ass it's ridiculous again that's just inflaming 1.00

00:44:52.580 things further what have they done bouncy castles they honked their horns oh dear oh dear terrorists 1.00

00:45:00.960 You know, some of these people should actually go to the Middle East for a little while, sit in one of those spots that's prone to having cafe bombings or having Hezbollah lobbing bombs into the middle of shopping malls during the day.

00:45:14.380 Get a feel for what real terrorism feels like.

00:45:16.980 It's a hell of a lot more than a few horns that have annoyed you.

00:45:20.240 Some traffic snarls.

00:45:21.800 And you're calling this terrorism?

00:45:23.580 And you're calling those people terrorists.

00:45:25.560 You're calling good, typically law-abiding Canadians terrorists.

00:45:29.580 What have we come to? 1.00

00:45:31.580 And again, it's not just a few handful of idiots on Twitter saying that this is the people leading our government. 1.00

00:45:38.580 These are the academics out there that help guide our political actions. 1.00

00:45:44.580 This is an awful, awful development, and it cannot be understated.

00:45:48.580 Call it the Emergencies Act.

00:45:49.580 It's martial law.

00:45:50.580 It's a form of it.

00:45:51.580 of it when you are suspending the rights the essential critical rights of citizens

00:45:59.020 for an emergency if you want to call it that it's martial law it's just a matter of degree

00:46:05.180 and they can always up that degree how far will it go if they get away with it this time

00:46:10.140 what will they use to justify it next time trudeau is is off his nut he really is look at the guy

00:46:17.420 listen to him when he talks and you're given that amount of unfettered power to him think about that

00:46:22.860 that little tyrant i mean he wants that power he doesn't need it there's no justification for it

00:46:28.380 it's looking like he might get away with it and in a minority government no less

00:46:32.540 our system is broken it's sick and there's a lot of things to be fixed and i think independence is

00:46:37.900 going to be the only way to get us out of that in the long run but in the meantime we're still stuck

00:46:40.780 within it and we got to fight for our rights however we possibly can in the meantime do what

00:46:45.980 what we can because they're being taken from us. And this emergency act is a travesty and we have

00:46:52.320 to push back. So I hope to see some folks on Saturday. I saw some great ones the last time

00:46:55.840 I went out to one of these protests. It's going to be great weather. And as I said, every major

00:46:59.500 city, we know there's going to be one. Look it up. There's got to be an organization on Facebook

00:47:02.600 or somewhere out there getting people together. If you don't have one in your little area,

00:47:07.280 see if you can't get some folks together and do it. We've got to push back. All right. That's

00:47:12.200 enough breathing out of me and frothing. I'm going to bring in my next guest here, Adam Richardson.

00:47:18.120 He left full-time political life in the mid-2000s and then returned to his career as an occupational

00:47:23.020 therapist in the state of Maine. And he was a director of rehabilitation for some facilities

00:47:27.420 in the states over the last 15 years. Recently, due to the vaccine mandates, his role as a therapist

00:47:34.300 has been threatened. I'll find out the details from Adam right away and what's happened. He's

00:47:40.480 one of those people who's been impacted by these mandates, these ridiculous, terrible mandates. So 0.96

00:47:44.480 let's bring him in and see what he's got to say. Hey there, Adam, how you doing?

00:47:50.140 Good, I got you. Nice to see you. Great. Can you get a little closer to your mic perhaps? Or maybe

00:47:55.720 it's a little tough to hear you there. Sure. Can you hear me okay there now? Okay. Yeah,

00:48:02.380 we're getting you. So thanks for joining me. You're down in Maine right now?

00:48:06.000 I am in Maine right now. I'm at my home actually in northern Maine, just across

00:48:12.720 about 10 minutes from the New Brunswick border. Yeah, I have a home in New Brunswick and a home

00:48:19.520 here. Okay. Yeah, we got a little bit of a lag with you, but I think we can get through it. So

00:48:25.920 you're still a Canadian citizen at this time then? Are you on a working visa or are you

00:48:31.920 in a dual citizenship sort of situation.

00:48:38.480 I think I might have lost Adam for the moment.

00:48:41.500 We'll see if his connection improves in a moment.

00:48:43.860 No, I'm not.

00:48:45.080 I'm not there now for a few minutes.

00:48:50.500 I'm afraid you're very broken up there, Adam.

00:48:54.360 Maybe we don't quite have enough signal here

00:48:56.520 getting on to talk about this.

00:49:01.920 um we'll just give it a moment and see if we can't fix this oh i heard him yeah yeah

00:49:11.200 okay i i'm very sorry adam i'm afraid we can't quite get the connection to get this rolling uh

00:49:16.800 maybe we'll have to try and and uh do this again another time when we get you to a more stable

00:49:23.040 spot it's unfortunate i was really looking forward to chatting and uh we'll see if um

00:49:27.120 if we could do this again another time, it's really unfortunate. I see you're frozen there.

00:49:32.820 I live in a rural area, south of Calgary myself, and our internet is very challenging. Either way,

00:49:39.160 what I wanted to talk about Adam about, he's a smart, liberty-minded sort of guy. And yeah,

00:49:44.340 he had to give up his job because of mandates. A skilled person, a person just trying to make a

00:49:49.480 living and get out there. He wasn't putting anybody at risk. He was performing a valuable

00:49:52.940 service, the mandates pushed them out of work. I mean, we have to look into and humanize and talk

00:49:59.040 about the realities of what these mandates are doing to people. You know, it is putting real

00:50:04.520 harm upon them. It's putting them at a great financial stress. And we just, we need to talk

00:50:11.260 to these people. They aren't crazed racists. They aren't extremists. They aren't misogynists.

00:50:17.920 Derek always watches me on that one. I have trouble with that word. They're humans.

00:50:22.940 And let's never forget that.

00:50:24.540 And let's stand up for them.

00:50:25.880 You know, at this point, I'm going to cut the show off because I've missed my guest there.

00:50:30.620 And we're going to wrap it up.

00:50:32.800 And oh, wait a minute.

00:50:33.680 Oh, Derek wants to come in and talk, actually.

00:50:35.420 So we have a special guest.

00:50:37.900 I'm going to pop him in here.

00:50:39.760 Might as well just come in at the moment.

00:50:41.480 We already ran that ad twice.

00:50:43.160 Wow.

00:50:43.680 So there we go.

00:50:45.060 Interim guest.

00:50:45.820 And as I was saying to Adam, I'm going to have to reschedule him.

00:50:48.640 I see him popped into the lobby again, but it's kind of frozen.

00:50:51.140 And I appreciate him coming on.

00:50:52.640 But the pain of unstable connections is...

00:50:56.000 It's okay, because I saw that wasn't working, and we got some really good stuff right now.

00:51:00.940 And if you hang in the lobby, Adam, we'll watch, because it looks like it might be a bit stable.

00:51:04.400 I'll pop you back in if it's still working in a few minutes, and we'll give it another crack.

00:51:08.160 This is the fun of being live, but at least we can get the breaking thing.

00:51:10.500 So what have we got, Derek?

00:51:12.940 Well, so there's something called the Canada Gazette, and it's the most boring publication in Canada.

00:51:17.880 Dare I say the world.

00:51:19.360 It's the...

00:51:19.960 There we go.

00:51:20.520 It's the official list.

00:51:22.140 actually let's just keep this open right now um i've been going through this with a fine tooth

00:51:26.780 comb and some of the media have kind of looked at some of this and reported on it and you you know

00:51:33.260 everybody's heard some of these things but there's a lot of scary stuff in it that people have people

00:51:38.860 have not yet heard and i'm writing a column on it right now our newsroom's going through some

00:51:43.260 of these items so let's talk about some of the crazy stuff that's in this emergency order

00:51:47.980 right um everyone's probably heard by now that the government can um if you say you're a tow

00:51:54.460 truck operator they can come up and conscript you they can force you to to do that it applies to

00:51:59.500 anyone in any equipment anywhere in canada it's most likely to be applied to tow truck

00:52:04.620 heavy tow truck drivers um but some more information around that so they can come in

00:52:10.860 police can come to you they can even give you a a written order actually it's funny they call it a

00:52:15.420 request it's a request that you know it's uh so what's the term an offer too good to refuse

00:52:22.460 it's an offer too good to refuse from the government they call it a request but it's an order

00:52:25.500 you would because if you say no to this if you refuse to give your labor and your equipment

00:52:30.380 your property um you face up to five years of prison five years in prison if you say no yeah

00:52:37.500 uh but it's gonna get a lot crazier from there so uh you know a lot of the justification in this

00:52:42.380 well we need to protect critical infrastructure from this stuff oh yes critical infrastructure

00:52:47.100 now they have a very long list of critical infrastructure uh do we can we

00:52:52.700 pull up the gazette if i can find it it's it's fairly high up oh don't go too far

00:52:56.140 don't go too far get a peace officer emergency oh critical infrastructure there we go

00:53:00.940 uh okay so yeah just list off what's covered here sure we got airports aerodromes heliports

00:53:06.700 harbors ports piers lighthouses canals railway stations railways tramway lines bus stations

00:53:11.820 bus depots and truck depots. Infrastructure for the suppliers, utilities such as water,

00:53:20.300 gas, sanitation, and telecommunications, international and provincial bridges and

00:53:24.620 crossings, power generation and transmission facilities, hospitals and locations where

00:53:28.940 COVID-19 vaccines are administered, trade corridors, international border crossings,

00:53:33.900 ports of entry, ferry terminals, customs offices, bonded warehouses, sufferance warehouses.

00:53:39.980 That's got it. So you might be wondering, well, what's missing? Oil pipelines. Now what they do,

00:53:47.020 they do say gas transmission. So I would take that to mean, you know, here, if, you know,

00:53:53.260 your local utility, you know, gas to your house, to power your stove and your heat,

00:53:58.220 or, you know, to heat an office building, something like that. They list a lot of

00:54:04.140 infrastructure there absolutely nothing that i think would cover oil pipelines now why why could

00:54:09.660 that be why could that be now look i think i i think i know why uh where's the uh where's the

00:54:16.220 there's the gazette you have to bear with me folks or uh we're short staffed today so it's

00:54:20.300 not quite as flashy i know cory already mentioned that let's talk about something in here called

00:54:26.940 exemptions um so you know there's limitations on like public assembly the government can

00:54:33.740 declare essentially any public assembly to be illegal if they have, I think the way I put it,

00:54:38.940 reasonable cause to believe that it will lead to a disturbance of the peace. Well, Trudeau has

00:54:44.380 declared this all the disturbance of the peace since the beginning, including just regular

00:54:48.300 legitimate protest. Where is Compensation Emergencies Act? I can search it out. Okay,

00:54:56.140 well, so you know what I'm thinking, you know what I'm looking for. There's a really big exemption

00:55:00.940 to all this exemption there we go exemption there is an exemption to this so subsection two lists

00:55:09.980 uh everything you're not allowed to do this is prohibition on public assemblies so that includes

00:55:14.860 protests that they think are a breach of the peace uh interference with the functioning of

00:55:19.660 critical infrastructure or the support or threat of use of acts of serious violence against persons

00:55:24.620 of property. We haven't heard any of that, but they've, and it's already illegal, but those

00:55:30.820 three things, disruptions of peace and protests, interference with infrastructure, etc. Well,

00:55:38.160 there's some exemptions to this. So section two of this emergency order, and you can, maybe we'll

00:55:44.560 post this in the show notes there. Section two says, subsection one, everything we said you can't

00:55:51.300 do there, does not apply to A, a person registered as an Indian under the Indian Act. Wow. Well,

00:55:59.700 that's neat. So we have race-based exemptions. Okay. That's neat. That's not a surprise,

00:56:03.400 unfortunately, but that's insane, actually. Yeah. So if you have the right race, none of this

00:56:07.140 applies to you. Okay. Now, section B says, you know, so subsection one does not apply to also 0.90

00:56:12.580 a person who has been recognized as a convention refugee or person in similar circumstances.

00:56:19.280 so those as a convention refugee and then some more legal blather uh section c says a person

00:56:26.400 who has been issued a temporary resident permit within the meaning of subsection 24 of the

00:56:31.120 immigration refugee protection act uh d says a person who seeks to enter canada for the purpose

00:56:36.660 of making a claim for refugee protection so if you show up on roxham road and you say i'm here

00:56:41.880 to be a refugee and then you walk straight to the protest you're good you're good right uh now i

00:56:47.000 Imagine they're thinking they're not going to that protest.

00:56:49.820 E is just a protected person.

00:56:52.060 Whatever that means.

00:56:53.260 I don't know.

00:56:53.940 I'm protected.

00:56:54.540 That's pretty broad. 0.94

00:56:55.840 By a nine mil.

00:56:58.760 And then F, person, any person in a class of persons whose presence in Canada is determined by the Minister of Citizenship and Immigration is in the national interest.

00:57:08.180 So I'm wondering here, what does this mean?

00:57:11.980 So we've got these bans on blockades and disrupting infrastructure, except for pipelines, and no one's allowed to do any of this stuff unless you meet one of these either immigration or refugee status or racial status exemptions.

00:57:30.340 How could that possibly be for?

00:57:31.660 you know they're terrified they're terrified of ever having to apply this

00:57:37.240 while it's invoked if suddenly BLM says you know what we're going to go have a good old riot you

00:57:42.220 know we haven't had one in a while so if if so if uh the people who claim to be acting for the

00:57:46.980 Wet'suwet'en who are not the Wet'suwet'en actually their leadership supports the hereditary yeah the

00:57:51.960 the self-appointed hereditary chiefs um they if they want to block a pipeline well they're still

00:57:58.620 allowed to block a pipeline. And they can do so forcefully. And the emergency, this emergency

00:58:04.520 order does not apply to them. Well, it looks like not only that, actually, if they wanted to,

00:58:08.720 they could go to Ottawa and the Samy and Hong Kongs and block roads. They're still exempt. 0.98

00:58:12.640 Theoretically. If they're treating. Yeah. So theoretically, the way I'm reading this order,

00:58:17.760 and I have every reason to think I'm correct here, and I stand corrected if I'm wrong, but 0.60

00:58:22.180 It's pretty clear, I think, if the truckers just got up and went home and in their place, people in these exempted groups, so primarily refugees and status Indians, if they literally go up and take their place and do the exact same thing, well, all of this is perfectly legal.

00:58:41.180 Or if the truckers left tomorrow and in their place, people in these exempted groups came with their own trucks and blocked pipelines, well, that's fine. 0.71

00:58:54.980 Or if the truckers blocked an oil line, actually. 0.66

00:58:57.280 Yeah, actually, if the same truckers, so if you take race out of it and refugee status out of it, these exact same people, they could pack up today and drive to the nearest oil pipeline and block that. 0.58

00:59:07.480 That's not illegal.

00:59:08.360 only Justin Trudeau could manage to get woke measures brought into a war measures act.

00:59:14.440 It's the woke war.

00:59:16.040 It's insane. And we have, again, I was talking earlier about class war and what's going on,

00:59:20.280 the dividing of the citizens. And when you have an emergencies act that should be applying to

00:59:23.980 every citizen, if it's that grave an emergency, and now you start parsing it, making exceptions

00:59:28.360 for people based on race. It's just yet another reason that this act is garbage. It's not founded 0.99

00:59:33.360 on the right principles and it just needs to be voted down.

00:59:36.880 It's not worth the paper it's written on.

00:59:38.880 It's so, you know, when you have, when the War Measures Act was brought in in the First World War and the Second World War, there was almost unanimous support for it.

00:59:48.200 And actually, as grave of threats as those were, I don't think it's worth becoming authoritarian yourself to fight authoritarianism.

00:59:56.420 I mean, there were certain measures perhaps necessary, but, you know, Canadians lost a lot of freedoms during both world wars, ostensibly in wars to keep freedom.

01:00:04.500 The War Measures Act allowed the internment of Japanese and Italian and German citizens.

01:00:10.100 You know, these acts, when that amount of authority and power goes to the government,

01:00:14.740 we can look, history proved the government being in the wrong place there. They had to apologize,

01:00:18.740 they had to make reparations. That was based on a government feeling that it had to suspend

01:00:23.220 civil rights in the event of emergency. The Japanese who were interned during the Second

01:00:27.620 World War, you know when they were released? Four years after the end of the Second World War,

01:00:32.500 four years after the unconditional Japanese surrender, Japan was in ruins and flattened,

01:00:38.900 Japanese Canadians, many of which were citizens, were still in concentration camps on Canadian

01:00:44.660 soil for another four years. You can't tell me that these emergency powers will not inevitably 1.00

01:00:49.620 be abused. No, I mean you can't give the state that much power. So you know we look back on times when

01:00:54.100 you say a period of a more grave emergency even then our citizens got abused because the government

01:00:59.220 was given that power and ability it cannot be taken lightly and here we go again on something

01:01:03.660 again at this point now that the borders are open we're just talking about a cluster of protesters

01:01:07.900 in Ottawa that that can be managed with existing police and uh and the existing laws if they just

01:01:15.240 have the will to do it there's no reason for this act and it's scary what this power grab is doing

01:01:19.060 you know I I know that um our viewers I think it's fair to say generally tend to support what's

01:01:26.280 happening right now with the truckers. There's a lot of people who support the cost of the truckers

01:01:30.980 but don't think it's right to block borders. I think camping out around Parliament Hill is

01:01:35.400 fair. I think that's fair. Blocking the borders, I mean, there's, you can argue, you know, is it

01:01:41.940 fair civil disobedience or is it unnecessary hardships caused to everyone else? That's a

01:01:46.240 fair argument. But now it's not about any of that. Now you have an emergency power grab.

01:01:51.560 uh so even if you oppose the even if you oppose the cause of the truckers and you think mandates

01:01:56.860 are just great we should say locked up and masked up and forced faxed forever now you have the

01:02:03.280 problem of the emergency emergencies or war measures act here no one should think it's okay

01:02:09.720 for someone representing the state to walk up to a tow truck driver with a gun in hand and say

01:02:15.180 you have to work for me you have to give me your property or you're going to go to jail

01:02:19.720 oh and if you do agree we're going uh your compensation is going to be decided after this

01:02:26.160 and i'm going to get to set how much you get paid the government gets the side how much you get paid

01:02:30.900 oh this is this is just wrong on many levels that's a part of what i went with my rant because

01:02:34.780 i've read that part in it like again guys and that's just what they're saying for the timing

01:02:38.560 and that's the same portion they're using to force banks to get to get in other people's

01:02:42.640 accounts things like that even if bank wasn't willing they're saying hey force of law we will

01:02:47.320 crack down on you if you do not cooperate and give personal information or possibly the actual

01:02:52.480 property of your customers to us. This is scary, scary stuff. It's a very dark place we're into.

01:02:59.620 Okay, well, why don't I give you your show back? Sure. No, it's good to be filled and I see Adam

01:03:04.300 kind of coming to the lobby. He's gone, great. I'll see if I can't bring him in. If he's coming

01:03:07.840 and going, I'm not sure it'll work. We'll find out and I hope so because I've really been looking

01:03:11.340 forward to talking to him. So thanks for coming in for the update. Lots to look forward to on the

01:03:15.920 my pleasure i'm going to try not to show my butt to the screen here yeah well i'll run our sponsor

01:03:20.480 one more time quickly before i uh try to bring it in and thanks for the update on these crazy times

01:03:25.760 and there's a picture of the emergency act uh talking about some of the things uh actually i'll

01:03:31.440 talk with you guys later so here's that text from the emergency act for those who are watching there

01:03:35.440 you can see that you know something that seriously endangers the lives health or safety of canadians

01:03:40.080 uh of such proportions that exceed the capacity or authority of the province to deal with it

01:03:44.960 Well, we've seen that. The borders were cleared without invoking this. Their own act is wrong,

01:03:51.600 and it doesn't justify even being brought into being. Clearly, we don't have that sort of

01:03:56.240 situation. I see perhaps I've just got audio with Adam. I see maybe he's giving that a crack. We'll

01:04:00.720 try and bring him into the stream here, and I'll remove that. Adam, I'm afraid I think we might be

01:04:11.840 be out of luck with Adam. Okay, that's too bad. Live is a challenging thing. Our world of broadcast

01:04:18.080 and internet's getting better and better all the time, but it's just not quite necessarily all

01:04:21.920 there. And we will try and reconnect with Adam another time. I am going to run my ad here while

01:04:28.080 I see what else we're doing. Where did it go? Oh, I miss Nico so much. As you can see, he does a

01:04:32.480 fantastic job. And here's, let's talk about Algadex. I'm going to come back and close up the show and

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01:05:19.220 okay guys well that was a good show you know as much as i could do without the brilliance of nico

01:05:23.780 here he's made some great graphics videos and he will be back tomorrow so it'll go much more

01:05:27.620 smoothly and i got a couple of good guests again marco navarro genie is going to come on uh he's

01:05:32.900 He's going to talk to us about a number of freedom-related things.

01:05:36.380 And I've got Spike Cohen, who is a libertarian leadership candidate down in the United States there for vice president, actually.

01:05:44.240 And he's very outspoken on issues and freedoms.

01:05:47.200 I see Adam in the lobby.

01:05:48.480 I'm going to give it one more crack.

01:05:50.020 And if we can get him on, we will try.

01:05:52.060 But if not, I will close the show up here.

01:05:54.120 Adam, how are you doing?

01:05:57.260 I'm doing well, Corey.

01:05:58.460 Can you hear me a little better there now?

01:06:00.960 Yeah, we got a little bit of a lag.

01:06:02.220 I know it's difficult.

01:06:03.640 I appreciate the patience in trying there.

01:06:07.400 So I'll get straight to the point where we get there.

01:06:09.840 I think I was talking about how you had basically the restrictions that impacted your career

01:06:16.320 and then you weren't able to fully function as an occupational therapist.

01:06:22.760 I'm afraid that the leg is just too much.

01:06:24.840 It's not going to work out at this point.

01:06:26.660 So we're going to call it a day, guys.

01:06:28.540 Thank you very much for tuning in.

01:06:29.920 I've got a couple of great guests tomorrow, and I will try to reconnect with Adam at another time.

01:06:35.560 We're just going to have to get a better connection for it.

01:06:37.840 So thanks again.

01:06:39.140 Check it out.

01:06:39.600 Spike Cohen tomorrow, Marco Navarro, Genie, 1130 a.m.

01:06:59.920 We'll be right back.

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