00:06:05.780uh roman uh babber now he he's a little known outside of ontario where he's a member of
00:06:11.420provincial parliament he used to be within ford's government he got kicked out for uh speaking out
00:06:15.720too strongly against uh provincial uh vaccine mandates and restrictions and things such as
00:06:20.440that we've seen that in pretty much every provincial government somewhere he came across
00:06:24.800actually very well he was calm thoughtful and unapologetically conservative i i don't think
00:06:30.840And Babber is a likely contender in this race, but he's establishing himself well, and he's going to be positioning himself effectively for the leap to federal politics in the next general election.
00:06:41.240I was actually quite impressed by Roman with how he was in there.
00:06:49.700The moderators, you could tell they were thrilled with it, I think, the organizers and such, because they did this odd move of giving all of the candidates, basically, they lined it up and said,
00:06:56.960well, Mr. Brown isn't here right now, but you all get 30 seconds to speak what you think of him
00:07:02.720or what you'd like to send to him, and basically called him out for his absence. And most of those
00:07:07.800candidates, though, took that moment again to shoot further at each other and didn't say much
00:07:11.500about Brown. I think they don't see Brown as a threat, and I can't blame them. I mean, Brown's
00:07:15.940campaign's been an odd one, to say the least. He's pretty much an unknown outside of Ontario,
00:07:20.440and he's avoiding all press conferences and debates. I mean, this campaign's going to be a
00:07:24.880long one. And I can only guess there's some kind of strategy here, but he's going to have a long
00:07:29.420way to catch up when he decides to start publicly taking part in this race. So I would say that the0.98
00:07:35.640debate was a success and that it did definitely attract national attention. And, you know,
00:07:41.860leadership debates often don't do that. They can quite often slide under the radar.
00:07:45.660They're often pretty darn boring, too. I mean, it was very engaging to watch.
00:07:49.680uh it can we can't let ourselves forget though these candidates they have to win two races not
00:07:55.740just one and winning the conservative leadership is certainly step one on becoming prime minister
00:08:01.240eventually if they sour the rest of the public on themselves along the way they won't win the
00:08:06.380general election it's a delicate balance for these guys to to have i mean conservatives in
00:08:11.540canada have been plagued with internal division for years now in alberta the ucp might be right
00:08:16.380on the brink of tearing Kenny out of his leadership, and federally, the last two conservative leaders
00:08:21.720were tossed to the wayside by their own members. Those actions may have been necessary, but it
00:08:26.740doesn't project a sense of stability or control to non-partisan Canadians, and most Canadians
00:08:31.600aren't taking part in these parties, so they're watching this infighting from afar. Now, seeing
00:08:35.920candidates rip each other to pieces in leadership races makes for great theater, but it could also
00:08:40.820damage the party's reputation in the broader sense. Now, and again, I'm not saying I want to
00:08:44.760see a bunch of pussycats up there, you know, saying nothing but canned statements and being0.97
00:08:49.100dull and not getting on each other's cases. I want to see Terudo eviscerated by a seasoned1.00
00:08:54.600conservative leader whenever we do have another federal debate in the future in a general election.
00:08:59.660But we just got to find that balance. The party's going to have to hold itself together solidly in
00:09:03.720order to contest that next election effectively. And that's not going to happen if they rip
00:09:07.700themselves to tatters during this leadership race. This is just the first debate of many in the coming
00:09:12.280months. The campaigns are going to evolve, and so will the tone of them. They just got to remember
00:09:15.940to keep the eye on the prize, and that prize is taking the Liberal Party out of power. Otherwise,
00:09:20.040they're just fighting for the role of being the leader of the opposition in this race, and we
00:09:24.840don't want to see that. All right, well, that's kind of what I caught out of the race last night,
00:09:30.600as I said, or the debate, I should say. And as I also said, you know, go to our Western Standard
00:09:35.520Rumble channel. You can see the entire debate for yourself on there, if you like. It was, again,
00:09:39.380very engaging. It was entertaining. I'm just not 100% sure if it was productive. But again,
00:09:44.820it's just one of many. And hey, people will forget about it. I mean, if we get a whole series
00:09:48.920and a whole summer of debates like this, it might have a difficult impact upon viewers again from
00:09:55.740outside. And those are the ones who are going to have to vote when the general election comes.
00:09:59.900So let's check in with the newsroom with Melanie Reston-Risden. Mel, how's it going?
00:10:06.180I'm good. How are you? I agree with you on what you were saying about the debate. I agree that
00:10:16.720it is, you know, if things continue that way, I don't think it's going to be great for viewers
00:10:23.340to feel any kind of cohesion. So agreed. And I also agree on the National Beverage Day that we
00:10:31.960need to celebrate that here at the Western Standard. So at some point, uh, hoping, hoping we
00:10:38.540will. Yeah, I'm certain we will. I mean, uh, Derek's still away in Ottawa. So I suspect the, uh,
00:10:44.480the newsroom bar fridge might fill up a little bit and empty again at some point tonight.
00:10:49.040Uh, might. Yeah. Uh, we're working on some news right now. Uh, we've got a couple of stories out
00:10:54.740this morning. Uh, Canada's environment minister, uh, Stephen Gillot, uh, is advising Canadian
00:11:00.640oil companies to start diverting some of those massive profits that they've been seeing as of
00:11:06.920late and put them towards investments in projects that will cut down on greenhouse gas emissions.
00:11:14.400We've got the Conservative Party slamming the Feds on their horrible customer service0.99
00:11:20.020when it comes to the endless delays for Canadians to access Service Canada. So that's people looking
00:11:26.580to get their passports, employment insurance issues, immigration, trying to even just reach
00:11:33.580CRA apparently is hours and hours of a wait.
00:11:38.360Kaylin Ford, former UCP candidate who says false claims and a smear campaign that was
00:11:44.640launched against her destroyed her candidacy in 2019 and she says has ruined her reputation.
00:11:51.520She has come out with legal action against the CBC, Toronto Star, the NDP, and she has started a GoFundMe page.
00:12:02.500She's hoping people will support her legal battle to fight the cancel culture and hopes that she can work to prevent others from having, you know, smear campaigns and whatnot against them.
00:12:17.480And we've got a couple other stories that we're working on right now.
00:12:19.860I'm just looking into a baby food shortage. It's actually the baby formula. It seems to be a
00:12:26.840shortage that is causing a lot of panic in families in the U.S. So digging into that right
00:12:33.740now, seeing if we are finding a similar situation here in Canada. So we'll have that story up on the
00:12:39.440news site here fairly quickly. We've got more coverage of food processing plant fires that
00:12:46.520have happened in the last week. Now, there are a lot of fact checkers sites and mainstream media
00:12:51.700sites that are debunking the theory that these fires are happening nefariously. So we have
00:12:58.440another story coming out that will also highlight the two newest fires. And Amanda's working on a
00:13:05.260story how bird flu has been detected in BC. And the BC branch of the SPCA is asking people with
00:13:13.980bird feeders to take them in, take them down, people with the bird baths to empty them because
00:13:19.300those are two of the sort of super spreader areas for this bird flu. So that's some of the stuff
00:13:26.540we've got going on right now. Great. Well, lots on the cooker and a big weekend coming up. The new
00:13:33.700site we have up and running for some people, I should remind them all, it's looking a little
00:13:37.480different this last couple of days. There might have been some log-in hiccups. I know James has
00:13:41.500been running like crazy, helping council people to show what's changed, what's up, but it's all
00:13:46.100coming out for the better. So yeah, I think so. And we've had a few comments from viewers and
00:13:51.700readers who are saying they're, you know, they're not able to sort of find certain things, but you
00:13:57.500just have to have a look. We have more navigation now, so you can specifically read BC news. You
00:14:04.880can specifically read Alberta news, you know, Ontario out east. So there is a little bit more
00:14:10.500to the navigation, but yeah, just get on the website, check it out. We feel like it's going
00:14:15.020to be really great to bring more news, news that people are interested in in their area,
00:14:23.440will be more easily accessible. So yeah, I think people just need to go in and surf around a bit.
00:14:30.400Great. Well, we'll see how it develops and eventually we'll get back to a nice fluid
00:14:35.680posting as we've already been getting there. So thanks for the check-in, Melanie. I'll let
00:14:39.600you get back at her and we'll talk to you later. Okay. Thanks, Corey. Thank you. So just that
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00:42:58.920It's not every police officer. And the best way to stop that mistrust is to interact, get to know each other for both on the end of the officers and the people in the other communities. You know, you get face to face and realize they are people. They're just people doing jobs. Likewise with the police. Hey, not every person in one of these communities in these parts of town where they've got some crime problems is committing crimes. Not everyone's looking for trouble. The more you can interact, the more you can, you know, reduce the amount of, you know,
00:43:28.920negative interactions, I guess you could say, as far as that goes. So yeah, we've got a lot of
00:43:33.740stuff to work on, but we've got big problems. I mean, I saw that on Twitter, which just posted
00:43:38.400this afternoon with a couple of guys on the LRT platform fighting and attacking each other. This
00:43:43.340wasn't a youth thing. It looked like addicts. Again, the crime problems we have are big and
00:43:47.340widespread. One had actually taken a broom handle from one of the guys working on the platform and
00:43:51.520was attacking the other with it. This is day-to-day stuff we're seeing in Calgary these
00:43:55.420days. We, we never used to see that stuff. It's frustrating. And so again, let's just keep
00:44:02.760pushing and try and reverse this big problem. It's tied into a lot of issues.
00:44:07.760Let's see what else we got here before we get to Mr. Bernardo. Actually, this is something,
00:44:14.640you know, to help frame up with what I want to talk to Tony about in a moment here.
00:44:18.760uh yes so agent says some numbers that came up agent seized uh 1113 firearms uh crossing the
00:44:28.180border uh it's not giving me the time frame i'm guessing that's over a year or something
00:44:33.960uh 1107 of them were owned by americans this gets back to again where we got a government
00:44:39.680that's constantly coming after uh law-abiding firearm owners you know they're trying to get
00:44:44.060us to register long guns with long guns aren't a problem and they're cracking down on people who
00:44:48.740own handguns, who have followed all the rules, people who registered, people who do all the
00:44:53.920things, right? It doesn't matter. They're looking at handgun bans. They're talking about
00:44:57.860banning handgun ownership across the entire country. But when you look at this, it's not
00:45:03.940going to do a thing for the criminal element. The crooks aren't going to Cabela's to buy a handgun
00:45:09.700or to a firearm range or dealer. They're getting it smuggled across the border. They're getting
00:45:14.560stolen firearms. This is where we have to look. I don't know how much evidence we have to see of it.
00:45:19.540We saw that in the news the other day. What was it? A drone that was carrying 11 guns crashed.
00:45:25.400I guess the smugglers got too greedy and overloaded the thing. If they just wanted to
00:45:30.200smuggle 10, perhaps they would have got away with it. And you know, how many of those things are
00:45:33.980flying back and forth across the border that aren't getting caught? This is where we got the
00:45:38.380problems. But that's a lot of work. That's difficult. That's dealing with border crossings
00:45:42.940and law enforcement, and even possibly, I said that the other day too, sometimes there's First
00:45:47.600Nations involved or other gangs that they just don't want to touch that with a 10-foot pole.
00:45:51.300So it's a lot easier to look like you're doing something by cracking down on the law-abiding
00:45:54.960firearmers because they're law-abiding. They cooperate. They won't make a fuss. Well,
00:46:00.480we're making a fuss, but it's an easier target for the government to go after. But if your
00:46:04.880goal is to reduce crime, well, then they're barking up the totally wrong tree and it just
00:46:10.700doesn't stop. It shows like cabinets on inquiry cited RCMP figures said that they'd seized 428
00:46:18.060handguns last year that were identified as smuggled. So again, what difference would that
00:46:24.020428 handguns, you know, what difference would it make cracking down on the people who have been
00:46:28.180legally acquiring theirs and using them correctly, as the vast majority of Canadians are? But no,
00:46:34.120this is where they're talking about national handgun bans. Would that have stopped those 428?
00:46:37.820No, in fact, it probably would have doubled them because when you take it and you legalize it, guess what happens?
00:46:42.260The demand only goes up and the demand will go up from people who are irresponsible from the criminal element.
00:46:47.460I mean, how many times have we got to go over this?
00:46:51.980And that's part of why this issue is ongoing and we keep pushing back.
00:46:56.380As I was talking with CSSA and other groups, you got to keep standing up for yourselves because this government does not have our best interests in mind.
00:47:03.960And they are constantly attacking our rights.
00:47:18.240And then I saw that, you know, we have a firearm one to help frame things up before I bring you in, you know, just to get my blood pumping up a little bit.
00:47:27.340But maybe we'll just kind of introduce you.
00:47:29.360Tony Bernardo, and you're the head of the Canadian Shooting Sports Association.
00:47:32.440I mean, you know, describe your role and what your organization does.
00:47:35.960I know when I do the ads, I cover some stuff every time, but I'm certain there's more that could be covered there, too.
00:47:50.180I'm the executive director and I've been doing my job for about 25 years.
00:47:54.680We've got some huge and notable successes with being behind the cessation of the long gun registry and the elimination of certain authorizations to transport by making them electronic, all kinds of other things.
00:48:09.400I always tell people that lobbying is a prophylactic exercise and you measure your success by the things that don't happen.
00:48:18.240And so far, we've been able to make an awful lot of things not happen over the years past.
00:48:22.760We also do training courses, sports organization stuff, many, many, many things, insurance for all types of firearms owners.
00:48:33.760And we're out there fighting every day, long, long hours every week for the benefit of the gun owners of Canada.
00:48:42.260Great. And, you know, we've well, you and I are both great enough at the muzzle to remember the registry from the 90s and efforts like that.
00:48:49.120That sort of backed off, but we know it's not gone.
00:48:51.660But they kind of moved their focus from the long guns they used to have.
00:48:55.220Well, the recategorization, we could talk about that shortly.
00:48:58.400But they really got their eyes on the handguns right now.
00:49:01.000And there's that C-21 that is looking to allow municipalities to ban handguns.
00:49:07.500And, I mean, I just see a legislative nightmare going on here if they try to do that.
00:50:17.320No, because they're so insignificant that they're hardly worth collecting.
00:50:22.540I don't know if you remember back, must be at least 10 years ago now, there was a shooting in Toronto by a lawful handgun owner who decided to suddenly become unlawful.
00:50:35.440And it was such a major event. It was front page of the news for a week because it was so rare. It was the man bites dog story. It just almost never happens. I mean, really what we're dealing with now is with this Trudeau government.
00:50:51.400Every single year since they've been elected
00:51:11.080And yet you see the Trudeau government now
00:51:14.160They've lowered the penalties on a bunch of gun crimes
00:51:18.160That should have people doing a hard time
00:51:20.080Yeah, that was something that was bizarre. I read that recently. They're looking to lower penalties on some of them, like a commission of rape with a firearm and holding hostages. Like, what the heck? You guys are lowering the sentences on these most horrific of dangerous crimes. And again, you're chasing down the law abiding owners. I never will understand that mental disconnect that these progressives have.
00:51:41.900Yeah, I don't get it either. I mean, other than to say categorically when they tell you they're doing this for your safety, they're lying. That's not why they're doing it. They go and they reduce the things that will keep you safe at the same time as they're stepping up their attacks on lawful firearms owners. Let's call a spade a spade here.
00:52:02.720The real purpose of this is to disarm the public of Canada completely.
00:52:30.680But for the rest of it, crimes just keep rising.
00:52:34.540And their gun control programs, despite billions of dollars, many billions of dollars being pumped into gun control programs, they don't work.
00:52:44.320And they don't work because they're directed at the wrong people.
00:52:48.040Yeah, and I mean, you know, going back to, I mean, if they're concerned about crimes, I see the irony in learning respect for firearms and using them right.
00:52:54.820Like way back when I went to school, I went to a boarding school in Vancouver Island for a while, but they actually had a firing range.
00:53:00.780And that was part of us as students was learning how to safely handle and utilize a firearm and recognizing it as a safe tool to be handled if you do it correctly.
00:53:23.020And I might be a little longer in the tooth than you, Corey, but I can remember when most high schools had shooting ranges in their basements, and it was only in the 70s they started to remove those.
00:53:36.920Prior to that, they all had them, and the reason was because of a program that the government had where they wanted to train young people in the use and skills of firearms.
00:53:49.100Remember, we'd just come out of two world wars, and having an able-bodied citizenry that was fit to be able to defend the country was an important thing.
00:54:00.980I think, though, that we can clearly see from the present government that the ability to defend the country isn't even a small priority.
00:54:09.240And I think all these things are just part and parcel of the same gigantic problem.
00:54:15.200I'm just going to pivot a little, just things I like to respond to guests, you know, as part of doing it live.
00:54:19.500And Cheryl Dawn was asking something you might be familiar with.
00:54:21.760I'm not sure, but he's asking about the Powell approval backlogs in Alberta.
00:54:26.180I guess your family's been waiting almost a year and everything's bound up.
00:54:31.380I guess the government cast a check, but they're still waiting for the actual licensee.
00:54:35.260Do you know much on what's going on in the regulatory end of things there?
00:54:38.860The Fireworm Center is backlogged by thousands and thousands of applications.
00:54:47.880They claim its residual pile-up effect from when they had to take people and send them home to work during COVID.
00:54:57.880Of course, the big processing computers, you only trust certain people to have terminals to get into those because there's very sensitive information.
00:55:06.120So perhaps that backlog was due partially to that, but it's due from another thing. And that is that every month there are thousands more Canadians trying to get firearms licenses. This is one of the fastest growing things I've ever seen.
00:55:21.820and this has been going on now for several years i mean we've seen a 20 increase in the number of
00:55:29.360restricted firearms that like handguns and all of the gun clubs right across the country most of them
00:55:35.940are reporting huge waiting times to become a member not just a matter of pay your money anymore
00:55:41.720now you join a waiting queue and it can be long long times most of the clubs that i know of
00:55:48.400personally are running two and three hundred people in the queue waiting to become members
00:55:54.000and join. It's a hugely growing sport. Yeah, and it's difficult to facilitate. I know there's
00:56:00.300ranges actually down here west of Calgary, some outdoor ones I was looking into, but I said that
00:56:03.700I live out there, I get to get to an outdoor spot and well, I got to be sponsored by a member and
00:56:07.600the waiting list is six months to a year, possibly if I get in and that's just to access an outdoor
00:56:13.020range. Like, wow, there are a lot of people wanting to get into this, but rather than responding to
00:56:17.780this increase in consumer demand by facilitating it of course seems the government's trying their
00:56:21.780hardest to to shut it down well absolutely too and you know ranges if you talk about them
00:56:27.500they're under tremendous stress all the time because the ranges have to comply with this
00:56:33.820huge litany of federal specifications administered by a chief firearms officer and credit to alberta
00:56:43.020in saskatchewan they've now taken the official government federal uh chief firearms officer
00:56:49.500uh punted them to the curb and installed their own civilian firearms officers uh terry bryant
00:56:56.780in alberta and barbara freeberg in saskatchewan these people uh that they have now actually
00:57:03.100understand the issues they actually understand what shooting is about and what the the the
00:57:08.220problems that uh that ranges face all the time to their credit of course they are safety oriented
00:57:15.500foremost always safety force always but they they are also a lot more practical in the way they
00:57:22.300administer the existing federal laws it's a huge step forward and congratulations to those
00:57:27.900governments for thinking that far in advance yeah so another area that our right to you know firearms
00:57:35.180is under threat, and the government's using that to great effect, is using orders in council to
00:57:38.780recategorize firearms that used to be legal and with a real arbitrary categorization. They use
00:57:46.060an assault style. They've used anything they can label as that, and suddenly they feel they can
00:57:51.340take that away. This trend is going to keep continuing as long as they're getting away with
00:57:55.680it, I imagine. Yeah, sure. It would be like pizza-style poutine. Yeah, it'd be one of those
00:58:01.820things and and the use of ordering council to do this stuff is uh really um not that parliamentary
00:58:11.500it was put into place back in c68 which was uh 1992-93 when prior to that ordering council is
00:58:21.660very misunderstood it it's um it's something that is for use in something that is very much
00:58:28.720time expedient, as in we're being invaded, we need a decision right now, or something that is
00:58:34.780inconsequential, like we're going to change the color of the paper from beige to taupe. Just use
00:58:41.220an order in council and just make it happen. But C-68 added the ability of an order in council to
00:58:47.460be used to prohibit or restrict firearms. In the last years of the Harper government, when Stephen
00:59:49.800And then now Anne McClellan, back in the real, well, I would say bigger battles on the efforts by the government to take people's firearms away.
00:59:59.920Now, unfortunately, though, they've gotten more subtle, and I think they're doing a frog in water approach, which is kind of almost more disturbing.
01:00:07.440And, I mean, going after handguns right now, the amount of handguns in Canada, legally owned, used in the Commission of Crimes, is almost insignificant.
01:03:43.720Now, the government plays this up like it's some gigantic boogeyman. For those that don't know, a straw purchase is when somebody legally acquires a firearm for the purposes of giving it to somebody who shouldn't legally have it.
01:03:58.980so you'd have somebody who for example might be a firearms license holder they get wired out on
01:04:06.920drugs and the only way that the dealers will continue to give them drugs is if the person
01:04:12.100goes out and buys firearms and ammunition for the gang you always get caught always always always
01:04:18.460okay because these things are all completely registered every which way but sunday and when
01:04:23.820they find them at a crime scene they automatically trace them back to the owner but we're dealing
01:04:29.520with tiny numbers of this and yet the government throws this up like it's some gigantic boogeyman
01:04:35.420but most people aren't so stupid as to fall for this unless they're under control of a pimp or a
01:04:40.840drug dealer and you know nobody wants to see these people put in jail more than lawful gun owners do
01:04:48.900and you said it yourself every time something bad like that happens it smears us all yeah well and
01:04:56.000again you know just to kind of close off that's one of the things you have a lot of great resources
01:04:59.700on your website and things like that for firearm use there's videos there's all sorts of things
01:05:04.940because the other thing is improper use i mean somebody might not be criminal but they might be
01:05:08.040just being an idiot we don't want to see somebody using a high power rifle in an urban backyard or
01:05:12.680we don't want to see you know people improperly to driving around with it with a unsafely stored
01:05:18.060and loaded firearm uh again education is the key to it and you guys don't just lobby you help
01:05:22.660educate so we can all utilize firearms safely right yes we do that's correct okay well that
01:05:28.980kind of fills it up i really appreciate you coming in to talk to us today uh you know is there anything
01:05:34.040else you'd like to add in in closing before i uh let you get back to work there yeah well if things
01:05:39.000get really bad by a drone yeah no doubt thank you gory perfect well thanks it was good talking
01:05:49.720to you today i'm sure we'll talk again soon tony yeah and and for all you listeners out there come
01:05:53.520and join the canadian shooting sports association we're doing good work out there and we need all
01:05:58.600the members we can get right on thanks thank you all right so yes that was tony bernardo and as
01:06:05.700you can see. See, firearms lobbyists are well-spoken, intelligent people who just want a
01:06:11.680safer world and want our rights protected. Go figure. You know, you shouldn't think this should
01:06:15.400be so complicated. But yeah, they really are a great resource there, guys. Check them out. And
01:06:20.940if you're even considering firearms, I mean, it's a resource. This is where you look into things
01:06:24.420and see if it's for you and what you might want to get into. There's a lot of uses,
01:06:29.660things you don't think of. There's the black powder firearms, different types of target
01:06:34.300shooting, different types of sports. Again, safe, fun things to get involved in. Biathlon, that's a
01:06:39.600sport that's a really cool one. And out here in Alberta, we've got the range out in Canmore for
01:06:43.920that. You know, it's based on what I think old Norwegian military, you know, but you got to
01:06:49.100cross country ski and race and then stop and shoot a number of targets and then keep racing. I mean,
01:06:55.600when you're heavy breathing and trying to hit a target, it's an incredible skill for that to be
01:06:58.880done. And I'm sure I've never heard of a biathlete utilizing their firearm incorrectly or hurting
01:07:04.900anybody. It's just a fun, cool sport. And there's, there's lots and lots of things out there for
01:07:10.080people. Check them out. I know there was a question from Cheryl about pellet guns, and
01:07:14.780I didn't quite want to go into that because it's, it could be Alberta law and other things. We don't
01:07:19.040necessarily want to get too prescriptive or specific with stuff. I would check with your
01:07:22.240municipal bylaws. I'm not, I live in the country, so I mean, I don't have to worry about using a
01:07:26.660pellet gun in the backyard or anything like that. But in the cities, I'm not sure what the laws are
01:07:31.280or if you're in an area with neighbors. The one thing I would suggest, of course, if you're ever
01:07:35.820going to use something like that and there are people around, is just communicate, right? You get
01:07:39.300those mistaken incidents sometimes, like if somebody's out with a pellet gun or something
01:07:44.980like that, they can look very much like a larger, more dangerous firearm. Make sure your neighbor
01:07:49.040knows it's just that. Don't walk around and make it seem as if it's something more. That's how you
01:07:54.320it a terrible incident if you just chat with each other and everybody gets along fine and then you
01:07:59.520can again reduce or avoid incidents before they happen uh tony was saying uh you just actually
01:08:05.880still popped in the comments there said municipal anti-discharge laws so yeah you'd have to look
01:08:09.900into your local area and and see what exactly is allowed or isn't allowed but i mean it's
01:08:14.620certainly something you'd want to research carefully before you could have an incident
01:08:18.120that could cause some some trouble and and difficulties with yourself or your neighbors