Western Standard - Triggered： “Experts” want to force third vaccination on Canadians now

00:00:00.000 Thank you.

00:00:30.000 Good morning. It's June 6, 2022. Welcome to Triggered. I'm Corey Morgan. Hope you all had

00:00:38.740 a good weekend. It was really rainy out where I was for it, but you know, we really needed it.

00:00:42.820 It's good for the farmers, good for my ever-growing lawn and just things in general.

00:00:48.400 But otherwise, I hope you enjoyed it wherever you were. And well, let's get ready for another

00:00:54.300 week of political insanity and things to cover and move forward. So let's have a look at the

00:00:59.380 observances for today. I'm going to go into that first, just while everybody comes on and starts

00:01:05.240 viewing. That's why some people ask, why are you going to those stupid observances? Some enjoy them. 1.00

00:01:08.580 Well, it just sometimes takes people a couple minutes to get on for the show. So these are the

00:01:11.800 lesser important, but still somewhat vital news items to pass along to you every day to

00:01:16.500 greet your day, and in this case, the week. So it is drive-in movie day. Those are something I

00:01:22.280 really miss. I don't know, for those who are old enough to remember the drive-in movies and all

00:01:26.900 that. I mean, they were a good time. I really enjoyed them. There's none left in Calgary. I

00:01:30.560 don't think there's any left in Alberta. If you live anywhere and still has one, though, today's

00:01:34.320 the day you're supposed to get out and enjoy it. It's also National Yo-Yo Day. So if you've still

00:01:40.160 got a yo-yo someplace, dust it off, take it out and put it to work. That's something I didn't

00:01:43.760 enjoy so much. I was always just as uncoordinated as a kid. Somehow I managed to be a ski jumper

00:01:47.560 without killing myself, but I could not master the yo-yo. The best I could do is kind of smack

00:01:52.040 my brother over the top of the head with it or something, but I wasn't very good at any of those

00:01:55.220 tricks and stuff with it. Either way, I see folks checking in from all over on Rhonda out in Ontario

00:02:01.060 and Annette out in Amherst and people from all over. I really appreciate it. So again, that

00:02:05.820 reminder, this is a live show. Comments are welcome. Having exchanges between each other is

00:02:11.040 welcome. Send me questions. I read them all. I don't necessarily read them out, but if you want

00:02:15.240 to pass things on to the guests and such, by all means, put them forward there. Again, just try to

00:02:19.320 remain fairly civil though. You know, we can be somewhat polite, even if we're heated and on each

00:02:23.460 other's cases a bit. I've got a couple of good guests today. One's going to be interesting I'm

00:02:26.420 looking forward to is C.J. Jackson. He's an author, and he wrote a book called So You Want to Be a

00:02:31.660 Dictator, and it's a supreme leadership guide for the aspiring authoritarian. Yes, it's a tongue-in-cheek

00:02:38.380 comedy book, of course, but who knows? Some of those things, you know, it's dark humor. Should

00:02:43.320 be an interesting discussion. I'm certain that perhaps Justin Trudeau would be interested in

00:02:46.880 buying a copy to find some more tips and tricks on how to run our lives. I'm going to speak a

00:02:52.260 little more seriously with Robert Murphy of the Fraser Institute. They put a report out recently

00:02:56.820 that's a pretty in-depth saying, can Canada avoid Europe's energy crisis? Because when it comes to

00:03:01.400 that, actually, yeah, I think we're just running a little ways behind Europe as far as, I mean,

00:03:05.700 we're just seeing high prices, but we're not in a crisis yet, but we're moving in that direction

00:03:09.080 fast. And it will be an interesting discussion with Mr. Murphy. So that will be good. But first,

00:03:16.340 I'm going to get on to what's got me worked up today. And I've been on Twitter going on about

00:03:19.560 that already and discussing some of these things. And that's, it looks like our, speaking of

00:03:26.180 authoritarian, speaking of a dictator like people, the media, the CTV, they're out there reporting on

00:03:32.180 this, saying that it's time for everybody to have a mandated third vaccination for COVID-19.

00:03:39.640 So it's not enough. Canada is one of the last nations on the planet stubbornly clinging to

00:03:44.520 these federal vaccine mandates, and they're damaging us. Experts, and I always put those

00:03:48.680 in quotes, you can't see it when I rant it, are calling for the definition of fully vaccinated

00:03:53.260 to now be expanded to involve three shots. Vaccine mandates have already put thousands

00:03:58.800 of Canadians out of work, and then at the same time, while industries are ironically in the

00:04:02.660 midst of a labor crisis, their cost in the Canadian economy untold millions or probably

00:04:06.980 billions of dollars as labor disruptions lead to supply chain disruptions while travel and

00:04:12.080 tourism are strangled. Yet experts, you know, given oxygen by our legacy media, want to make

00:04:18.560 this worse. And currently, about 82% of Canadians are considered to be fully vaccinated. That means

00:04:24.200 they've received two of the shots of an approved COVID-19 vaccine. If Health Canada accepts the

00:04:29.640 expert recommendations and the third shots required in order to be considered fully vaccinated,

00:04:34.540 only 49% of Canadians are going to qualify. This needs to be taken seriously. So yeah, CTV published

00:04:40.180 a large feature piece on this today as they continue to embrace the legacy media role of

00:04:45.520 pursuing an impossible COVID zero goal.

00:04:48.360 Rest assured, this is just the beginning of a press

00:04:50.520 for this redefinition of what fully vaccinated is.

00:04:53.220 The experts, by the way, are using data from analysis

00:04:56.080 at the Chinese University of Hong Kong.

00:04:58.400 You can find that in their story.

00:04:59.540 A real reputable source of information to be sure.

00:05:02.260 Chinese, they've never led us astray, have they? 1.00

00:05:05.340 Now, even the World Health Organization 1.00

00:05:07.580 considers one or two doses of vaccine to be adequate

00:05:09.800 to define somebody as being vaccinated,

00:05:11.700 the World Health Organization even.

00:05:13.860 Imagine the catastrophic consequences if more than half of Canadians are suddenly no longer

00:05:18.560 considered vaccinated by health authorities. The rush for third doses of vaccines will overwhelm

00:05:23.860 the health care providers as people panic and try and get doses before they find themselves

00:05:27.120 unemployed or banned from travel or so many other number of things due to vaccine mandates.

00:05:32.840 And even if there is a buffer for people to get it done, this is going to lead to all sorts of

00:05:35.900 disruptions. The people who never got the two shots in the first place are certainly never

00:05:39.540 going to get a third one. I suspect many people such as myself, I got the first two, but I'm putting

00:05:44.320 my foot down. I've had enough. I'm not going to let myself become a pin cushion for a disease

00:05:48.740 that's extremely unlikely to harm me. We know what this thing is about now. While the rest of the

00:05:53.400 world is putting the remnants of the pandemic behind them, Canada is insistent on keeping the

00:05:57.440 mandates and possibly even expanding them. Now, I can live with experts recommending COVID booster

00:06:02.720 shots and making their case for it. It should be open for discussion. These experts, though,

00:06:06.660 never want to leave it to free choice. That's why they're lobbying health authorities to formally

00:06:11.060 change the definition. Then the power of the law can be used to try and coerce people into being

00:06:15.680 injected. One has to wonder how many of these experts have their research funded by vaccine

00:06:20.840 manufacturers. It's pretty lucrative, or it certainly can be, when millions of people are

00:06:25.600 coerced by the government to consume your product. With the billions that pharmaceutical companies

00:06:29.820 have been raking in those last couple of years, they can certainly spare a few bucks to buy some

00:06:33.620 love from a cadre of experts, when will Canadians decide that they've had enough? If the government

00:06:39.660 starts mandating and pushing a third injection of vaccines, I suspect we'll see protests that are

00:06:43.720 going to make the trucker's convoy pale in comparison. There just isn't enough case to be

00:06:48.220 made with citizens to continue this. I don't think the ideologically blinded Trudeau government cares

00:06:54.000 though. It looks like Canadians are soon going to be faced with one of two choices. Either roll up

00:06:58.760 your sleeves every few months for another shot or take to the streets. Our backs are against the

00:07:04.840 wall now, guys. All right. Well, that's what's got me going this morning. Now let's check in

00:07:10.880 with Eva Sudik. She's been gone for a while, hiding, vacationing out on the wet coast out

00:07:17.600 there. We finally dragged her back into the newsroom. How's it going, Eva? I'm great. How

00:07:22.440 are you, Corey? Pretty good. You know, the usual ranting, raving, but that's what makes me happy,

00:07:26.680 actually yeah i know it's good to be back first day back and i'm ready in the news check-in right

00:07:32.600 on so you were out in the island you spent some time by tofino and that didn't you did you just

00:07:36.280 happen to see our glorious leader surfing at all you like oh no i was watching the waters for him

00:07:41.880 i heard he was in calgary while i was gone though yeah i'm afraid most of the smells cleared now

00:07:47.080 yeah thankfully he wasn't i didn't drive over him with my car my surfboard or anything so

00:07:52.760 Well, very good. Well, so what do we got topping the news today, Eva?

00:07:57.080 Today, we have a story up on Jewish human rights organization condemning the city of Ottawa for

00:08:03.000 allowing a conference in a city facility involving a member of the Popular Front for Liberation of

00:08:08.520 Palestine, calling them a terrorist organization that the government is allowing in Canada.

00:08:15.640 Also, federal agencies are warehousing millions of rapid tests as Public Health Agency of Canada

00:08:21.240 is stopping the distribution of tests to provinces chief public health officer teresa tam said at

00:08:27.880 this stage of the pandemic some responsibilities are falling back to provinces this comes just

00:08:34.120 weeks after parliament voted to spend billions more with covid response suppliers interesting

00:08:40.680 story opposition mps are calling christia freeland finance minister too busy to pay attention to her

00:08:48.120 budget uh her budget bill c19 as it's being chopped by opposition mps and is struggling

00:08:55.240 to be passed through parliament um over 100 000 has been billed after six canadian officials

00:09:03.160 attended a un climate conference airfare amounted to 37 000 including over 11 000 for environmental

00:09:12.200 Minister Stephen Gobeau just for his airfare travel. After the conference, he didn't mention

00:09:19.500 his air travel, but he did make statements saying that the climate crisis is upon us

00:09:25.060 and we all have to work together. So very interesting as he takes presumably private

00:09:30.800 planes all over Europe. Or at least find first class so he can stretch his legs out. I mean,

00:09:37.020 those orange jumpsuits can be chafing. Yes. As well with air travel, Melanie has a story coming

00:09:45.320 out later today about the gong shows that are going on at airports as people are trying to get

00:09:51.440 back into traveling and facing six-hour waits at Toronto Pearson and still not missing, not getting

00:09:58.120 on their flights and missing them. So that'll be up later. But for now, fans can read up on

00:10:04.640 Saskatchewan Rough Riders and the final cut as we have that break it down on the site.

00:10:09.040 Another story coming out later today is on a story out of Texas. An interesting showcase

00:10:16.260 showed last Saturday, a drag show for all ages. Videos came out showing provocative messaging

00:10:23.020 and dancing and children giving the dancers cash as they danced and whatnot. So we'll have that up

00:10:29.040 in a bit today great well always lots on the go so you've jumped back in feet first into another

00:10:35.200 crazy news week so i'll let you get back to it and uh thanks for the check-in thanks corey all

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00:12:06.540 So yeah, I'll get some of this stuff going through the news.

00:12:08.420 One of the things I haven't mentioned, and again, if you're on Twitter, you'll have seen this probably going on.

00:12:14.500 It's been fairly viral.

00:12:15.800 Ryan Whitney, he's a former hockey player, and he's part of the Spitting Chicklets podcast.

00:12:22.220 Very popular.

00:12:23.140 and well-known, but he's been live tweeting videos from his nightmare experience stuck in Toronto,

00:12:29.060 can't get his luggage back, and he just is exposing how bad it's getting. And a lot of this,

00:12:38.120 again, it's coming down to these stupid, ridiculous vaccine mandates. They're short-staffed 1.00

00:12:44.080 in the airports because those are federally regulated industries, so they have to have

00:12:48.200 their mandates. And then as well, everybody's backed up at customs because they're checking

00:12:53.720 everybody all for their vaccination status. It's not making anybody safer. It's destroying our

00:12:58.540 tourist industry. It's making people miserable. But this government won't stop. They won't back

00:13:03.360 off. In fact, they want to double down. Imagine if you need a third vaccination for it. Now,

00:13:09.520 getting forward, I just threw it up, you know, speaking of Twitter, which again is a separate

00:13:13.240 world. You can only read so much into these polls, but I throw one up once in a while.

00:13:16.580 So I threw one, because all it measures is who your followers or what they think on something,

00:13:20.940 not what the world at large thinks. Fair enough. It's a fishbowl, you know.

00:13:24.060 But still, I threw one out about just before the broadcast started asking if people would consider

00:13:27.940 getting a third shot if they hadn't had one already, if the government mandates that.

00:13:32.060 And again, there's a big bias, but still, I had in the last, I don't know, half hour or whatever,

00:13:36.440 almost 600 people vote, and 98% no frigging way. They said, no, we're done, we're finished.

00:13:43.160 That speaks volumes in the width of the spread.

00:13:46.600 Again, there's some degree of confirmation bias.

00:13:49.260 There's definitely the people who follow me tend to be ones that don't trust the government a hell of a lot.

00:13:53.360 So fair enough.

00:13:54.260 But still, I would have, I really honestly would have thought it would have been 80-20 or something like that.

00:13:59.320 But no, 98%, they are not going for that third shot.

00:14:03.260 Or at least, you know, I think the government will have a better chance getting people to get that booster if they will just ask.

00:14:08.340 Just ask.

00:14:08.860 In the case of me, I'm not too eager at this point.

00:14:11.160 But if you put a gun to my head, I'm definitely digging my heels in and saying no. It's the coercion, guys. That's the problem. Leave it to choice. But this government doesn't do that. This is an authoritarian government. That'll kind of tie into my guests when I do speak to them in a little bit here. It's nuts.

00:14:26.120 The other thing that has been talked about, here's something that doesn't help, and it doesn't help for, I think, genuine trans people who just want to move on and enjoy life and do what they do.

00:14:36.720 But the activists, they just won't stop pushing, and they just keep going too far.

00:14:42.080 So with this drag show in Texas, drag show?

00:14:45.420 Great. 1.00

00:14:45.920 Get out.

00:14:46.380 Have fun.

00:14:47.700 Do your thing.

00:14:48.300 There were drag shows back, and I think it was, what was it?

00:14:51.220 Bracetown in Alberta and Calgary used to do it many years ago.

00:14:53.620 People enjoyed it.

00:14:54.220 It was a good time out and everything.

00:14:55.300 lots of character, but now they keep going for the kids. What's with the kids? Why do you keep

00:15:00.020 pushing on the kids? Let them be frigging kids, leave them the hell alone. There's limits for a 1.00

00:15:05.080 reason sometimes. And I'm looking at pictures from this drag show they held with kids as everyone

00:15:08.920 was talking about getting them to tip them. It was held in a strict bar and there's people sitting

00:15:12.840 in front of a sign saying, it's not going to lick itself. Guys, leave our kids alone. Get the hell 0.84

00:15:20.460 away from it. This is causing pushback, I think, to a lot of, again, you know, peaceful living

00:15:26.240 trans people who just want to get on with their life. They get lumped in with these crazed

00:15:30.380 activists and the other woke assholes who force us to keep indulging these activists, to keep 0.99

00:15:35.620 saying that we're supposed to take their endless pushes seriously. I mean, it's seriously time to 0.99

00:15:40.920 say that's enough. You know, we've certainly come along as a society. We're a hell of a lot better

00:15:46.040 than we've ever been. But now when we're holding shows and strip clubs, it is nuts. Come on,

00:15:52.160 let's get real. But either way, we'll be reporting more on that pretty soon. As we said this

00:15:57.800 afternoon, Mel's working on that story too, because there might be another Alberta event

00:16:02.360 coming up with something along those lines. We'll see. So let's see. I'm going to speak to one of

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00:17:10.820 All right. You know, this theme is it just works as a boy. I love to rail about our authoritarian state all the time. And, you know, you can do it with a bit of humor, yet at the same time, have some seriousness behind it. And Mr. C.J. Jackson, an author, has written his book, as I said, So You Want to Be a Dictator. A great guidebook, I imagine, for aspiring authoritarians. So let's have a conversation with him and see what this book is all about.

00:17:37.320 but bring Mr. Jackson in from the lobby there.

00:17:40.060 Hey, how are you doing over there?

00:17:43.880 Oh, I think perhaps the dictators have put your mute button up.

00:17:48.180 The dictators have already signed me.

00:17:50.460 I knew they were going to step in on this one.

00:17:52.300 They can't allow so much.

00:17:53.820 Yeah, they've been watching me.

00:17:54.900 I had to keep a bag on my head, so now they're going to, you know,

00:17:57.980 I probably won't make it through the week.

00:17:59.560 So thanks, Corey.

00:18:00.500 You've been exposed.

00:18:01.600 I'm sure the racing is on its way.

00:18:04.220 Yeah.

00:18:04.700 So I do appreciate the book and the title.

00:18:06.760 I got to admit, I haven't gotten a copy here fast enough, but yes, the Supreme Leadership Guide for

00:18:10.360 the Aspiring Authoritarian. So lots of tips and tricks, I imagine. I mean, this has been a void

00:18:16.440 that needs to be filled. I mean, there is no dictatorship one or one or, you know, how to be

00:18:21.960 a tyrant in post-secondary education. So you've given aspiring dictators the means now to start

00:18:27.460 figuring out how to get into that world of authoritarianism. Yeah, I used my secondary

00:18:32.980 secondary education to, you know, do good for a while. And then I decided to turn it towards the

00:18:38.080 evil. So it was a good way to transition from my degree in, advanced degree in international

00:18:48.880 relations and democracy and governance and go, hey, what if we just turn this around for a little

00:18:53.340 bit and see what it looks like? And look, the real fun about this is it's not just a satirical

00:19:02.400 humor book but it's uh showing a little bit about the decay of democracy that i've seen

00:19:07.840 in my work you know i've been in this industry for uh about 12 years now and it's uh interesting

00:19:14.880 to see for people who aren't in this industry to see hey look this is how quickly you can see your

00:19:24.080 you know, government in your democracy be exploited by just one person or a group of elites. It's

00:19:33.440 pretty quick. I was supposed to say individual liberties. I mean, we've kind of seen more

00:19:39.840 challenges in this last couple of years than we have probably in decades for a number of reasons,

00:19:44.240 I guess. But there's nothing like a great emergency to give the authoritarian minded

00:19:48.560 the inspiration to try and see how far they can push the limits. And I just like things

00:19:52.800 being brought up you know yeah you can have a tongue-in-cheek way and still examine a serious

00:19:56.640 message absolutely i think um you know one of the things that i've learned in my work um and i've

00:20:02.720 been in government for uh 12 years in intelligence agencies um with uh non-profits and uh a lot of

00:20:12.000 people look at government and democracy and uh they they get bored because you know the most

00:20:18.800 of the books about it are 400 pages and they're dry as hell um and what i'm trying to show here is

00:20:25.440 that uh for you know the common person here this this is how easy it is for someone to

00:20:33.760 take over your rights and your freedoms like it's it's incredibly easy and it's happening

00:20:39.520 more often now i you know the the impetus for this book came in 2010 uh when the arab spring happened

00:20:47.200 We all thought social media was going to support the improvement of people's lives.

00:20:52.800 And it ended up giving a method for dictators to utilize it to take more power.

00:21:01.280 That's what we've seen.

00:21:02.980 Yeah, well, information, I mean, it can cut both ways.

00:21:05.660 I mean, you know, I don't expect you to know too many on Canadian issues, but things that we've got coming down from Parliament, it's kind of scary lately.

00:21:11.840 We've got a bill coming forth that is going to give customs agents the power to force you to give the password to your phone or tablet when you're crossing the border so they can look within it in case you're carrying any information that's not supposed to come into the country.

00:21:26.560 Again, people brush that off saying, I got nothing to hide.

00:21:28.660 Well, careful, guys.

00:21:30.820 Your whole world is on these digital devices now.

00:21:33.940 And this is a government that feels entitled to go and look into it.

00:21:37.480 Yeah, you make a good point, Corey.

00:21:39.740 This is the modern version of how dictators control the message and its information.

00:21:49.140 And that's what we've seen.

00:21:50.820 Arab Spring 12 years ago, we thought Twitter and social media was going to actually support the prominence of democracy.

00:22:02.460 And instead, dictators and dictator wannabes have used it to actually either delay the information, remove the information, create misinformation or disinformation.

00:22:17.360 And we see that with Russia. We see that with China. We see that with the West now that it's been struggling with it, you know, six years.

00:22:24.880 I mean, I'm the U.S., you're Canada. We see it.

00:22:27.900 Yeah, well, and we see sometimes dictators come into power through a revolution or a big turnover or a military coup or something like that.

00:22:35.240 But it seems with us in the Western world, we're doing it more with an incremental frog in water sort of approach.

00:22:40.020 But the outcome is going to be the same if we don't pay attention pretty soon.

00:22:43.180 Yeah, you're absolutely right.

00:22:44.880 It's not as slow moving as we think.

00:22:49.200 We see it in the developing world in the Middle East and we go, well, that wouldn't happen to us, but it's happening.

00:22:55.380 it's been happening for decades uh and it's uh just been a little bit slower because we've had 0.56

00:23:01.780 the uh institutions and infrastructure to avoid it where the development world hasn't but it's

00:23:08.980 it's coming and it's becoming easier and easier for them because people don't know what the hell

00:23:14.640 is going on anymore it it's um and i hate to just push on social media because here we are on social

00:23:22.960 media doing this but it's uh taking complex situations and driving them down to 280 characters

00:23:30.880 you can't do that but it's easy and yeah and and the amount of effort being made by

00:23:36.400 well authoritarians it doesn't have to be necessarily on a government level it could be

00:23:39.860 on a corporate level but to want to control that information they see the power of it and that's

00:23:43.660 why they're drawn to it i mean arab spring did expose twitter as a very powerful tool actually

00:23:49.740 an influential one it made us realize it's more than just a novelty for people to exchange you

00:23:54.140 know cat pictures and chatter but at the same time now it could turn into something non-beneficial

00:23:59.260 and we got to watch for that i mean as well with every other platform and and and i i'll i'll put

00:24:05.180 one uh an additional point on that corey is what i would say is that it's not just twitter it's

00:24:09.900 internet should be a fundamental right now it's like water food and housing those are fundamental

00:24:18.460 rights for people to to exist in the world today and internet and social media as a uh

00:24:28.220 you know subset of that is a fundamental right and dictators are using that or want to be dictators

00:24:35.740 you know where wherever you make the line um in life is uh they're using that as a way to deny

00:24:43.020 rights here. And that's what we've been seeing. And I mean, you need that to do work. You need

00:24:48.860 that to pay bills. You need that to basically communicate these days. And we're seeing that

00:24:55.780 utilized more and more against the people who need it. And you make a good point. I just want

00:25:03.400 to add this additional point because my second book is going to be So You Want to Be a Capitalist.

00:25:09.000 and um i think you probably agree with me that uh they and dictators probably match you know this

00:25:18.480 isn't against capitalism this is against the people who abuse capitalism in that way yeah well

00:25:24.080 there's this crony capitalism and there's uh you know you couldn't call the oligarchs in russia

00:25:28.420 proper capitalists i mean they're entrenched with a dictatorial government yeah but they use

00:25:33.620 capitalism as a way to get there yeah yeah you can't open a corner store and compete with one

00:25:37.600 of those guys, you'll find it burned to the ground all of a sudden. So it's kind of a misnomer to

00:25:41.580 call it capitalism. Yeah, well, Putin's 7-Eleven is great, but I mean, yeah. Yeah, well, and it's

00:25:47.020 funny. I got to actually travel the Soviet Union at the end of the 80s before they sort of started

00:25:52.760 to open up, I guess you could say. At least, you know, it was formerly Soviet at that time. And

00:25:55.940 when we crossed the border, they searched the bags. This is typical in customs. But the difference was

00:26:00.880 they weren't looking for drugs and contraband like that. They were looking for books and cassettes

00:26:04.900 because information was everything.

00:26:07.360 They wanted to make sure the citizens never saw

00:26:08.840 what's happening outside.

00:26:10.740 They got their source from Pravda.

00:26:12.300 They got their cassettes from local,

00:26:13.940 God, I couldn't imagine how terrible the Russian bands were. 0.99

00:26:17.560 But just the extreme lengths they went to 0.90

00:26:19.960 to make sure that this sort of stuff didn't come in

00:26:21.880 shows that how important they realize that information is.

00:26:24.300 And dictators today realize the same thing.

00:26:27.620 And that source of information now is the digital world.

00:26:30.840 Yeah, it really is.

00:26:32.640 I mean, we have a digital science dot.

00:26:34.900 I mean, and, and that's, that's a big thing. And, and dictators have been able and, and, you know, want to be dictators have utilized it so well. And not only that, not just social media, but just controlling the internet. I mean, you talk about Myanmar, they can shut down, they shut down the internet. Turkey, shut down the internet.

00:27:00.520 Iran, shut down the internet. So they could just control it because that's the only way to 1.00

00:27:06.380 communicate anymore. I mean, you can't just share pieces of paper across that to build a following.

00:27:14.120 So it's the same. It goes back to my point about the decay of democracy where

00:27:20.160 dictators have found a way to exploit democracy to feign legitimacy.

00:27:27.640 and that's what's going on and they're just using social media and the internet as a way to better

00:27:33.780 do that. Well in our case again I know our Canadian examples are a little different we've

00:27:38.540 actually got a number of bills coming through that are literally modeled to control the internet

00:27:42.040 for the preservation of Canadian culture they say for the preservation and fighting of fake news

00:27:47.520 they say so they're going to accredit news organizations and say you're fake you're not

00:27:51.480 that's a dangerous road to go down giving the government full control on what you can or can't

00:27:56.120 see on there, but they are very much trying to get into that. Maybe even some are well-meaning,

00:28:01.160 but you can't give that authority to someone else. You make a good point because everything's

00:28:08.160 well-meaning when it comes to theory and bills, and then you get to the practicality about it,

00:28:13.180 and it ends up being abused, and that's what's happening. That's what's happening around. I know

00:28:21.060 it's happening in canada i apologize i don't know all that's all right you know things are going on

00:28:25.680 but in the u.s it's happening in a very big uh sense um it's happening in europe it's it's just

00:28:34.020 an easy way to abuse it um and i i think that's that that's a key point here is what we're seeing

00:28:42.000 is that um i'm talking you know my book's about dictators but dictators aren't just your kim jongens

00:28:49.500 or your Putins, they are your parliamentarians, you know, in Canada, I assume, and congressmen

00:28:57.200 here, they find ways to abuse those rights and then abuse that freedoms.

00:29:04.960 Well, in our complacency, I mean, we're our own worst enemy to a degree. So I'm sure it

00:29:09.320 made even news, well, it made international news when we invoked the, actually, the Emergencies

00:29:13.200 Act in Canada, which is our version of the War Measures Act, to combat protesters in

00:29:18.360 Ottawa. I mean, you know, they're still open to discussion whether those protesters should have

00:29:22.440 been shut down or cracked on upon. But actually, it's a form of martial law to suspend civil rights

00:29:28.280 for that period of time, which meant they could arrest people without warrant, it meant they could

00:29:32.460 actually force tow truck drivers, forced labor, if they refuse to tow trucks, they'd be thrown in

00:29:37.580 jail. I don't think enough people realize just how significant that line they crossed was when that

00:29:43.360 happened. And, you know, I fear the precedent it set, because it kind of let the government know

00:29:49.080 if we can convince people for the public good, we can really do a lot of interesting things here

00:29:53.700 without bothering with individual rights. Yeah, I mean, absolutely. You know, I can't say I'm,

00:30:01.460 you know, a full libertarian here, but I think that there is a balance here. And I'm a little bit

00:30:11.040 disappointed in the way that government kind of takes the full attack on everything versus the

00:30:21.000 full freedom that, you know, people want to enjoy. And I think that we tend to forget the world of

00:30:30.440 regulation. And, you know, there's, I mean, that's how society works, to an extent. I just think the

00:30:38.560 government tends to get to, you know, overbearing at a time. And then that causes a bad reaction

00:30:51.600 from everyone. And the U.S. is a great example. And again, I'm not an expert on Canadian politics,

00:31:00.080 but I assume, you know, that it's a similar thing. You know, here in the West, we've just,

00:31:05.760 uh we're starting to see that we're starting to see that um you know tension if that makes sense

00:31:13.460 yeah no our western democracies are all sort of grappling with similar issues i mean we'll have

00:31:18.100 some some nuances between our constitutions and things like that but for the most part we you know

00:31:22.560 we've got similar particularly canada the united states similar cultures and and uh governance

00:31:27.020 systems and challenges i guess you could say in these times so getting back to your book i'm just

00:31:31.440 looking at some of that stuff. Yeah. Satirical leadership guide for aspiring autocrats and

00:31:36.600 assholes, which is great. We embrace assholes a lot on this show. The autocrats, we can have 1.00

00:31:41.980 some issues with, but some of the stuff from within your book, though, you know, before we

00:31:46.820 let you go, just to kind of cover what's inside for this rather than our dry discussion on the

00:31:51.540 realities here. Yeah, I know. Yeah, I'm sure people love dry discussion on politics all the time.

00:31:55.940 Oh, this is what we do a lot of. We're allowed to laugh, too, though.

00:31:59.840 Yeah, well, just, you know, for you and for everyone listening, look, it's just a satirical human book. I've spent 12 years in the world of government and corporate, and I'm so, you know, I've seen so many leadership books about, you know, how to be a leader.

00:32:20.960 and you know why shoot for CEO go for the top but the real grouping here is that it's a step-by-step

00:32:31.420 guide of how dictators become dictators and how you can be one if you want to I mean you know

00:32:37.500 just give me a little credit and you know don't kill me but and and then it gives you a lot of

00:32:44.820 you know, history about previous dictators, where it came from, and a lot of the dictators that we

00:32:53.020 have today, and probably places you didn't think of, and the reality of this is, look, you're not

00:32:59.180 going to go and read a 400-page book about dictatorship and democracy, so why not have a

00:33:05.140 little laugh and learn about, you know, how democracy works and how it can be exploited,

00:33:10.680 it because it's pretty damn easy and it's been happening for a while yeah though i wouldn't

00:33:15.920 want to discourage people from reading the road to serfdom and some of the other good publications

00:33:19.380 of course yeah yeah i'm not yeah i didn't mention any other books but but uh i mean it's great and

00:33:25.280 satire is important and it makes serious messages digestible i mean there's there's so many great

00:33:30.260 long columns i mean i've written columns and i see that some fantastic political cartoonists

00:33:34.920 has actually managed to get out in one image what i had to write 800 words to try and get across

00:33:39.620 and they will have reached far more people than I have.

00:33:43.740 Comedy can make messages.

00:33:45.540 It really can.

00:33:46.540 And I mean, I started in comedy and then I went to politics.

00:33:49.020 So and then I came back to comedy.

00:33:50.900 So that's how it happened.

00:33:52.920 And I hope that the people who don't want to read, you know, a Samuel Huntington book

00:33:58.480 can read this and go, oh, OK, at least I get it a little bit and I have some time.

00:34:03.720 It's, you know, it's a 200 page book.

00:34:05.340 It's pretty short.

00:34:05.860 well comedy and politics are a lot more closely related than a lot of people

00:34:10.760 too closely related monologues and and books and everything else yeah well i know i really

00:34:21.200 appreciate that and as you say it's packaging something as a serious issue but make it digestible

00:34:25.340 and make it some fun uh some of the quotes i mean the things online you know uh let's see your

00:34:29.940 review from vladimir putin goes great with polonium tea and failed invasions of ukraine

00:34:33.980 uh we've got to let ourselves laugh at times yeah i mean and and what i would say to everyone is

00:34:39.900 um dictators hate being made fun of so laugh at them laugh at them as much as you can because

00:34:47.240 they hate that and that's you know if you can't do anything else at least laugh at them true enough

00:34:54.080 they're all about vanity if if nothing else that's for sure well thank you very much for coming on to

00:34:59.340 discuss that and for releasing that book i i hope we haven't exposed you to too many of the

00:35:03.220 authoritarians and tyrants, and if you manage to survive the purge or the hog, we'll hold you back

00:35:11.240 perhaps when your next book comes out there. Well, thank you for having me, Corey, and to all

00:35:16.120 my aspiring authoritarians in Calgary and wherever you're viewing, just please just let me live for

00:35:22.380 a little longer. I just got a little more. All right, excellent. Well, thank you very much. It

00:35:27.160 It was good talking to you.

00:35:28.400 Thank you, Corey.

00:35:29.200 Appreciate it.

00:35:30.300 Right on.

00:35:30.680 Thanks.

00:35:31.720 So, yes, that was C.T. Jackson with that book as per the title,

00:35:35.720 So You Want to Be a Dictator.

00:35:37.620 And I do.

00:35:38.140 I like humorism or some of the stuff in the past.

00:35:41.360 It was too bad P.J. O'Rourke passed away a little while back.

00:35:44.240 But the satirical gonzo journalism and writing out of him was just magnificent over the years.

00:35:49.660 And, again, he would touch on some serious issues in his travels.

00:35:52.300 But at the same time, it was couched in a lot of nice tasteless or personal comedy

00:35:56.340 while he was at it at the same time. 0.87

00:35:58.140 I mean, I'm a political dork.

00:35:59.460 I'll sit down and read that political philosophy 0.57

00:36:01.440 and things like that.

00:36:02.580 But I also like to sit down and read it packaged

00:36:05.800 in a more fun and palatable way.

00:36:09.800 So that's what we've got here

00:36:11.060 with this book from Mr. Jackson.

00:36:13.180 So yeah, go on out and check it out.

00:36:14.440 It's on Amazon.

00:36:15.620 Just Google that.

00:36:16.740 You'll be able to find it.

00:36:18.220 So you want to be a dictator by Jackson

00:36:20.220 and have a read.

00:36:22.600 Let's encourage some of that.

00:36:23.740 And as he said, make fun of these guys.

00:36:25.760 What a great way to get back at them.

00:36:26.980 There's only so much we can do.

00:36:27.880 It's not like we can pick up the pitchforks

00:36:29.780 and we really shouldn't.

00:36:32.280 I know some people think they should,

00:36:33.600 but go out after them.

00:36:34.960 But at least if you can mock them

00:36:36.360 and bring them down a peg,

00:36:37.440 it's a small victory,

00:36:38.520 but it's one well worth it.

00:36:41.040 All right, so let's see

00:36:42.280 some of the other crazed stuff that's going on.

00:36:44.460 This is another one that's concerning, actually.

00:36:46.180 I'm not sure if I haven't mentioned that

00:36:47.240 in the news check-in.

00:36:48.700 So we've had a member of parliament

00:36:49.680 denied sitting in her seat.

00:36:52.380 This is the first time this has happened

00:36:53.660 since 1947.

00:36:55.360 She's actually not allowed to go into the House of Commons.

00:36:59.020 She was escorted off Parliament Hill.

00:37:00.800 This is Saskatchewan Conservative MP Kathy Wagontail.

00:37:05.540 Wagontail.

00:37:06.160 Sorry, I can't pretend I was familiar with it.

00:37:08.800 The last time somebody was barred was actually a communist spy.

00:37:12.620 This is how serious this is.

00:37:14.780 And why?

00:37:15.880 Of course, because she's not vaccinated.

00:37:18.280 Or at least she wouldn't show proof of it.

00:37:20.260 This is insane.

00:37:20.960 Again, is it making anybody safer?

00:37:22.560 We are speaking of infringing on rights, important, important rights.

00:37:27.500 The people who live in her riding have now been denied representative democracy.

00:37:34.740 Their representative is not allowed in the House of Commons because she's not vaccinated.

00:37:41.780 That's insane.

00:37:43.720 And I mean, she's barred from her office as well, a block from there.

00:37:47.760 So it's not just because these are all federally regulated spaces.

00:37:53.760 And, you know, so people say, oh, she could just zoom in.

00:37:56.700 Yeah, she could, but she shouldn't have to.

00:37:59.060 You know, this is a huge, huge problem.

00:38:01.760 This is where they're using these abilities, you know, as the author was talking about,

00:38:06.120 dictatorial abilities, ways to sneak in and infringe on our rights further and further and further.

00:38:12.720 And where's this going to go if they impose the redefinition and you need three shots

00:38:17.100 to be officially vaccinated, how many members of parliament will suddenly not be allowed in any

00:38:20.620 longer? But they're pushing for it. And again, as I said, CTV, when you listen to their news

00:38:25.880 releases, you saw that a lot during the truckers convoy. Their stories and everything parrot the

00:38:30.840 government releases. They sound exactly like the government. They sound just like global. They

00:38:33.820 sound just like CBC. Why? Because that's what they're told to do. Well, not told. They're just

00:38:38.160 implied. You want to make sure you're still a qualified media institution, right? So just

00:38:45.040 don't rock the boat too much. Be careful. So before I go further, I should talk about the

00:38:51.200 other aspect that keeps us independent and that sponsorship. And that's one of our sponsors,

00:38:54.780 the Canadian Shooting Sports Association, CSSA. These guys, again, are standing up for individual

00:39:01.260 rights. And boy, that's another one that's under threat, right? Trudeau's coming after our firearms.

00:39:05.400 He always has been. He's been recategorizing them. Now there's the handgun freeze. Now they're

00:39:10.660 changing the capacities of a bunch of, you know, this is where it gets to. They're going to change

00:39:15.580 the capacity for rimfire rifles from, you know, anything over five is going to be illegal. You

00:39:20.860 know how many mass shootings have been done by little 22 gopher guns? Yeah, zero. This is not

00:39:26.200 a problem they're out to solve. Either way, it's ridiculous. But unless we stand up for ourselves, 0.97

00:39:32.820 we're going to lose. We're going to lose. You got to push back. We have to organize. We have to

00:39:37.220 push back. That's what the CSSA is about. They've got a lot of other resources, by the way. I mean,

00:39:40.960 not just government stuff, all sorts of videos, links to local gun shows, news releases on things

00:39:46.740 that are happening. But they're also, of course, lobbying on your behalf to show, look, you're a

00:39:50.300 law-abiding person. You want to own, collect, do whatever you want with a firearm, you know,

00:39:55.300 legally, target shooting, hunting. They're there for that to make sure you can maintain and continue

00:40:00.720 to have that right. And it's under threat. So check them out, guys. Take out a membership

00:40:04.340 with them, because if you don't, you're going to lose these rights. There's only one person

00:40:07.700 responsible, really, when those rights are taken away, and that's ourselves, because we're getting

00:40:10.640 taken away little by little. So, check out Canadian Shooting Sports Association. Their website is

00:40:16.340 cssa-cilla.org. Or, again, I think it's easier to just Google it, Canadian Shooting Sports Association.

00:40:29.640 You'll get there. Take out a membership with them, guys. It's not that much, and, again,

00:40:34.020 it will pay off for you. And, uh, by all means do so. So yeah, let's see. I'm just looking a little

00:40:41.140 further on that story about, uh, Wagenthal who's been banned from parliament. Yeah. She's elected

00:40:44.460 by 19,555 votes. So those 19,000, uh, yeah. So the world has changed. I mean, even if I don't

00:40:54.260 think it was a good law then, but even if it could be forgiven that they thought November 25th that

00:40:58.520 vaccination would stop spread. It doesn't. It doesn't. That's settled. That science is done.

00:41:04.800 Follow the bloody science. You know, why don't we turn that line around on these jerks more often 0.99

00:41:09.240 because they use that to crack down on us and our rights and our freedoms all the time. Follow 1.00

00:41:13.040 the science. Follow the science. Well, the science says vaccination doesn't do anything to stop the

00:41:17.060 spread. So quit legislating as if it does. Follow the science. But it's a matter of control. It's

00:41:23.680 a matter of spite. You know, Justin's got his back up. The little boy has, he's having a long

00:41:30.700 term temper tantrum and he's supported by Jagmeet Singh because the truckers embarrassed him. Well,

00:41:35.440 he embarrassed himself. The truckers just brought it up. And now we are actually shutting out

00:41:41.340 members of parliament. The first time since 1947. Think of the precedence of that. This is not a

00:41:46.320 minor deal. This is a huge infringe. If you've got a government that can start chasing people

00:41:50.640 out of the House of Commons, you don't have a democracy. Somebody's saying, okay, it looks like

00:41:59.220 a few commenters are saying our internet feeds coming in out. There's not much I can do about

00:42:02.460 it. I'm afraid there might be something going on a little bit out here in Calgary. Hopefully it

00:42:07.640 comes back in tune soon for you. I'm just going to keep moving along with it. There's a little we

00:42:12.860 can do. It's just one of those hiccups. Usually it comes in pretty smoothly. Just bear with us.

00:42:15.900 keep hanging in there. Hopefully I clear up for you pretty soon. So yeah, here's one that Eva

00:42:20.940 mentioned as well in our story that's coming up. So Chrystia Freeland is too busy to take care of 1.00

00:42:28.180 the bills. Yes, she hasn't had time really to take care of her budget bill. And wow. 0.98

00:42:37.560 Opposition members of the Finance Committee submitted a bill with a whole pile of amendments,

00:42:41.340 It's basically saying, well, that's nice, but I don't have time to deal with that right now.

00:42:46.420 It's our budget, guys.

00:42:47.800 We're under mass inflation, as I'm going to be speaking to in an upcoming guest in a bit.

00:42:52.360 A bit of an energy crisis is pending.

00:42:55.980 We've got a whole pile of difficulties going on here.

00:42:58.360 And we've got a finance minister who says, yeah, I don't really have time to chew on this right now.

00:43:04.820 This is nuts.

00:43:06.380 But again, this gets back to what I was talking about earlier.

00:43:08.320 Trudeau does not surround himself with bright people.

00:43:10.740 He's insecure. He's insecure. Look at his cabinet ministers. They're never really the sharpest

00:43:15.740 knives in the drawer. And Freeland's not much of an, you know, exception to that. She's one of the

00:43:20.980 brighter. That's why she's his second in command. But I mean, you know, unable to actually deal with

00:43:26.480 your own budget bill. That's what you're there for. You're the finance minister. But, you know,

00:43:31.840 she moved to cut the debate short. And it's nuts. All right, let's get on to something else. This

00:43:38.640 another story. Here's where we're getting with the government spending, government efficiency,

00:43:41.960 and government looking out for your interest. I haven't mentioned that as well. So federal

00:43:46.080 agencies are warehousing millions of rapid COVID tests. Yeah. And the parliament just voted to

00:43:51.540 spend billions more with suppliers. Total spending on rapid tests, they've blown $4 billion on these

00:43:56.620 kits. Nobody wants them now. They were bad. I mean, don't you remember that some months back,

00:44:01.660 everybody had to get their rapid test kit. Pharmacies were running out, people were running

00:44:05.220 around. People were trading them online. Well, now we got millions of them sitting around in

00:44:10.060 warehouses. We don't want them because who cares? Oh, look, I shoved a Q-tip up my nose and tickled

00:44:15.800 my brain and found out I got the flu. So what? It doesn't make a difference, but this is what

00:44:21.960 they're... And then, you know, you wonder about the inside dealing. You really do. Again,

00:44:26.240 that stuff gets dismissed as conspiracy theories, but who's making money off of these

00:44:30.820 There's millions and millions of tests. Where's it coming from? Likewise, we got some people who are going to do very, very well if everybody's forced to get a third vaccination shot. And we've got to stop complying. We've got to push back. I don't know what it takes. I know what it takes. It's going to take independence because I don't see Toronto and Montreal losing their love affair with the Trudeau family and the Liberal Party. Speaking of authoritarians, I mean, you know, we can keep pushing and we're gonna.

00:45:00.820 Um, we have to, you know, speaking of, of, uh, vacuous cabinet ministers, the queen of the mall

00:45:08.660 was Catherine McKenna. She's not in there any longer, but man, she used to be painful when like, 1.00

00:45:13.540 um, she'd know, you know, you know, she would give a press conference and she's still active 0.98

00:45:18.500 on social media. And, and she was commenting on the Ontario provincial election with, but had a,

00:45:23.700 a dismal, I think 43% turnout in the electorate or something like that. And she's saying maybe

00:45:28.580 it's time to force people to vote this that's the liberal response to everything is to take away

00:45:33.780 choice and force people to do something i don't care if a person chooses not to vote i really

00:45:41.060 don't i mean i think it'd be better for democracy if more people chose to i think it'd be better

00:45:45.460 sign of everything if more people felt their vote was worth something and they would get up and do

00:45:49.300 it i think we should see some alarm bells with the fact that a provincial election had such a low

00:45:54.100 turnout. But the response of wanting to put a gun to everybody's head and say, you have to vote or

00:45:59.320 we'll fine you or whatever other way. No, no, absolutely not. But that's their vapid short-term

00:46:08.300 type of thinking, these guys. And I imagine, you know, there's a lot of people who don't vote that

00:46:13.400 I don't want to vote. They're probably stupid, or at least indifferent. A lot of them are people who 1.00

00:46:18.780 are completely apathetic, wouldn't know one party from another, one candidate from another. They're

00:46:23.000 going to throw a dart at a ballot, I don't want them voting. If they're going to be that lazy,

00:46:28.460 stay home, watch the Kardashians, and let those of the rest of us take part in the representative

00:46:33.520 democracy. But forcing them into the mix is not going to make the outcomes any smarter,

00:46:37.860 which of course, I guess I could see why people then like Freeland, Trudeau, or Reagan would like 0.68

00:46:45.020 people to be dumbed down to get out and vote. That could be the next move we go to. There's

00:46:50.160 some of the irony. We've got to force you to take part in democracy. If you have to force people to

00:46:53.960 take part in democracy, democracy is broken. It's absurd. People say they do it in Australia. So

00:46:59.380 what? Do a lot of things down there. Some are good, some are bad. Forcing votes doesn't mean

00:47:06.080 they vote for a better outcome. People need to want to take part. And, you know, as Gary said,

00:47:13.320 that's the bottom line there, commenter. If you don't vote, then you voted for whoever won. And

00:47:16.960 And that's a lot of how it feels, you know, I don't like when people go out and try to read in, you know, I saw that with Andrew Coyne on Twitter the other day, you know, he posted a big thing showing, oh, this is the Conservative victory and showed in Ontario was 18%. When you take into account, all the people who didn't vote. And yeah, but the Conservatives still don't want the majority of the people who bothered to vote. I don't care about what the other 58% or 57% who didn't bother voting thought, or at least I worry that they're

00:47:46.960 choosing to stay home, that's a problem. And it's indicative of a big problem. But let's not try and

00:47:52.320 interpret what they might have voted for had they come out. That's a fool's game. All we have to 0.99

00:47:57.360 concern ourselves with are the ones who did show up. So when you start playing that game, and of

00:48:01.500 course, I don't recall Andrew Coyne ever doing that to break down how many people actually voted

00:48:05.660 for Justin Trudeau in the last general election, because I suspect the number would be fairly

00:48:09.820 similar. And to be honest, I would say it's just as unfair. The bottom line is in the system we've

00:48:14.120 got right now. He won the wealth, the majority amount to make it a minority government. But to

00:48:20.680 sit there and slice and dice and try and interpret based on the number of people who didn't vote and

00:48:26.240 guessing as to what they might have voted for. No, no, I don't think so. And the best interpretation

00:48:31.680 you could give it all, as the commenter there said, as well as people who chose not to vote,

00:48:36.520 were choosing de facto to vote for the status quo. They must have obviously, well, not obviously,

00:48:40.940 but a lot of them felt, well, things are good enough as it is.

00:48:43.060 I need not bother myself with it.

00:48:44.560 Just carry on.

00:48:46.480 But, you know, to get out there, as I said,

00:48:48.940 and have Catherine McKenna implying that having legislated forced votes

00:48:52.780 is a way to solve this problem, I don't think, again, though,

00:48:56.060 that's that instinct, right?

00:48:57.100 Every instinct there's a problem.

00:48:58.580 Let's figure out how to have more government to try and fix it.

00:49:01.380 More infringement on choice.

00:49:03.440 I never miss elections.

00:49:04.780 I still vote as futile as it might feel sometimes.

00:49:07.660 But as long as it's a choice, it's got to be a choice.

00:49:10.940 But that choice isn't a big priority for our parliament these days.

00:49:15.640 All right, I see our guest in the lobby there.

00:49:17.560 I'm going to bring him in, and we're going to talk some more policy stuff, though.

00:49:21.200 And this is stuff of concern.

00:49:22.800 And a lot of people have been talking about it for a long time, and that's the status of our energy right now.

00:49:27.140 And are we on the way to an energy crisis like Europe?

00:49:29.660 Because I think the cards are kind of lining up.

00:49:31.620 So this is Bob Murphy with the Fraser Institute.

00:49:34.580 How are you doing?

00:49:35.780 I'm doing well, thanks.

00:49:36.720 How are you?

00:49:37.560 Good, good.

00:49:38.200 I appreciate you joining us today.

00:49:40.120 uh as i said i i read that uh report you guys did with the fraser institute and comparing basically

00:49:46.200 the the trajectory of canada's energy circumstances and laying out why europe is in some of the

00:49:51.400 crisis it's in can you can you kind of give us in a nutshell what that summary is

00:49:55.160 sure thing um so yeah what we did in the report is number one to point out to people to make sure

00:50:00.120 they realize this that europe was in an energy crisis and people were using that phrase before

00:50:05.720 the Russian invasion of Ukraine. So obviously that exacerbated things, but this situation was

00:50:10.420 in place well before that. Just to give you some idea, in July of 2021, right, so last summer,

00:50:16.780 natural gas prices in Europe were up 670% just year over year, all right, just to show you just

00:50:23.480 the skyrocketing price. Electricity prices in 2021 in Germany, the UK, and France were up more

00:50:31.000 than 200 percent in each of those countries right so like a tripling and so again that those

00:50:36.340 timelines were showing this was before the uh Russian invasion of Ukraine and so then in the

00:50:41.440 study we said okay what what are the factors going on what why is why was Europe in such dire straits

00:50:46.340 and we listed some factors all of which are also true right now in terms of Canada and its

00:50:51.660 government's policies and so that's what the point of the report is to warn um and so it has to do

00:50:56.680 with being hostile to conventional fossil fuels. And so companies aren't investing as much.

00:51:03.140 And then having, in Europe, they have what's called an emissions trading system, which is

00:51:08.320 like a price put on carbon. And they jacked up significantly recently. And that's very similar

00:51:13.000 to Canada's tax on carbon. And so our concern was, if Canada is following the same policies

00:51:19.160 that they had in Europe in place, you know, is an energy crisis going to come to Canada as well?

00:51:24.620 Yeah, well, it seems like we're trying to legislate an alternative to hydrocarbons,

00:51:29.340 but we haven't developed the alternative yet. So, I mean, it's inevitable that's going to lead to

00:51:34.000 some spikes in pricing if we don't somehow ramp up wind and solar generation very quickly and

00:51:40.200 effectively, which isn't going to happen. Right. So what seems to be happening,

00:51:44.120 and this pattern's all over the place, but you see it in Europe in particular,

00:51:48.720 is that certain jurisdictions, for example, Ireland, Germany, and France, they outright

00:51:53.440 ban fracking and they have policies in place to discourage coal fired power plants in particular

00:52:01.920 electricity derived from coal and so you're right in the short term we can't just instantly switch

00:52:08.000 over to having solar and wind fill the gap those are intermittent sources when the sun's not

00:52:12.880 shining when the wind's not blowing you need something else and so that meant the brunt of

00:52:16.000 it fell on natural gas and then for various reasons because natural gas prices went up so

00:52:20.880 much that's why it fed into electricity prices so that's sort of the the quandary that the world

00:52:27.120 finds itself in as governments push uh away from coal-fired plants right now natural gas has to

00:52:32.640 pick up the slack because it's not as carbon intensive and it's more reliable than wind or

00:52:37.120 solar and so then when you have a disruption like for example interruptions in natural gas exports

00:52:42.480 from russia then of course that you know the economies are more dependent on that yeah and we

00:52:48.080 we are seeing, I mean, similar actions in Canada. Quebec is an outstanding example. I mean,

00:52:52.920 they've got some pretty good natural gas reserves there, it appears. They started with a fracking

00:52:56.900 ban, and now they've actually just basically said, no, we're not going to do any oil gas

00:52:59.960 development whatsoever in our province, and they're leaving that in the ground. But

00:53:04.360 that's not, I mean, that can only contribute to higher prices then.

00:53:08.900 Right. In terms, too, of federal policy, too, in Canada. So, for example, they've got,

00:53:13.140 most obviously the carbon tax that's in place that's set to get up to $170 a ton by the year

00:53:19.640 2030. They've got an outright cap they've placed on greenhouse gas emissions from the oil and gas

00:53:26.020 sector. So with all this stuff, it sounds good in principle. And I understand the desire that,

00:53:31.980 oh, we're concerned about climate change. We want to limit those emissions. But

00:53:34.680 policymakers and Canadian citizens, of course, need to understand what the flip side is. These

00:53:40.720 things come with a cost. And there's a reason right now that the infrastructure was so heavily

00:53:46.280 reliant on natural gas and coal and oil. And that's because they're very dense forms of energy

00:53:52.380 that are very convenient, dispatchable is a term that's used. And again, just to switch over these

00:53:57.120 other forms, it comes at a cost. And as you say, like a carbon tax, this isn't some undesirable

00:54:04.220 side effect. The avowed purpose of that is to make electricity and transportation derived from

00:54:10.300 carbon intense products more expensive. That's the whole point of taxing something is to make

00:54:14.620 it more expensive to discourage people from using it. And so, yeah, we shouldn't be shocked. Gee,

00:54:19.280 how come energy is so expensive all of a sudden when the government's policies are explicitly

00:54:23.320 designed to make them more expensive? Yeah, but they didn't discourage us from using anything.

00:54:27.660 They just made it a heck of a lot more expensive for all of us. So, I mean, it's only having half,

00:54:31.480 I think, the intended purpose, I imagine, because there's not an alternative realistically to go to.

00:54:36.020 yeah you're exactly right and so you know in fairness the some of the people who are designing

00:54:40.580 these policies and the projections they may have been relying on had optimistic assumptions built

00:54:45.780 into it to say oh if you know we keep making strides in battery power or if there's widespread

00:54:49.700 adoption of electric vehicles or you know various things like that if solar panels become more

00:54:54.500 efficient then you know oh we could afford to move away from the current reliance on the more

00:55:01.540 conventional forms of energy and it wouldn't be so expensive but yeah the problem is in actually

00:55:06.820 implementing that in terms of the timetables it's it's not ready for prime time yet and so yes as

00:55:12.820 you say by making this stuff more expensive people still need to heat their homes they still need to

00:55:16.500 drive to work and so they have no choice in the short term but to suck it up and pay higher prices

00:55:21.700 yeah well and likewise i mean i i know it only has limited effect but still i mean if we supplied

00:55:25.380 more in the world market that's going to have a degree of uh offsetting on world prices but our

00:55:30.260 biggest well one of the biggest world consumers and our biggest export customer is the united

00:55:34.980 states but president biden while he's acknowledging an energy crisis seems to we see no indication he

00:55:41.220 wants any more canadian product he's actually going cap and hand to saudi arabia and venezuela

00:55:45.700 asking for more like is there ways we can develop our relationship better with the united states to

00:55:49.380 help exacerbate some of this or well yeah i mean with all this stuff i mean when the biden

00:55:54.100 administration came in of course they were very hostile to uh pipeline development and you know

00:55:59.380 You know, there were a lot of so-called green groups that the Biden administration wanted to placate in terms of taking action, some of which was just symbolic.

00:56:07.580 So, yeah, you're right. And I don't I guess part of that is that because they made those moves early on, they don't want to be seen as backtracking.

00:56:17.080 But you're right, especially it is ironic that the United States policy, instead of building more alliances with its northern neighbor, is reaching out to areas of the world that are traditionally unreliable.

00:56:28.660 And the U.S. as well also has a lot of domestic resources that it's not tapping again because government policy either literally forbids it or makes the people in the industry realize it would be foolish enough to invest billions of dollars developing this because for all we know, 10 years from now, the regulatory climate is going to be different.

00:56:47.500 So with all this stuff, too, there's a chilling effect on the private sector's development, even if the explicit government policy right now doesn't forbid some of these things.

00:56:56.560 Yeah, that's what I kind of wanted to get to, because even if we wanted to ramp up Canadian production, that's going to take a lot of capital, a lot of investment.

00:57:03.140 Timelines are long. And to be honest, in looking at how many projects have been canceled or delayed or regulated to death,

00:57:09.060 we don't look like a safe place to invest in those kinds of projects because we don't know if you could ever get it to completion.

00:57:14.000 Right. Yeah. And we have some figures there in the study that you may have seen that in terms of like European, the European energy mix,

00:57:21.240 So, yeah, in terms of R&D, there was a lot more over the last 10 years that's been pumped into, you know, so-called renewable sources, things like battery power, things like that, not very much into more conventional forms.

00:57:34.620 And you can understand why, again, from an individual investor's point of view, it's a rational decision to make that you don't want to spend a bunch of money investing in a coal-fired power plant if, for all you know, eight years from now, they're going to come out and say this is illegal,

00:57:49.320 or they're going to put in place such a punitive carbon tax that it's no longer profitable to run.

00:57:53.840 So you can see why they would get out of that.

00:57:56.540 And that's partly what you see is, too, the contribution to the energy mix coming from coal is way down in various jurisdictions.

00:58:05.560 And again, that's just because they read the writing on the wall and they know it would be foolish for us to invest in this.

00:58:11.680 Yeah. So getting another aspect of things, too, we saw that from Minister Reagan the other day was labor, a shortage of skilled labor.

00:58:19.240 We're like, if we do want to ramp it up, we're also down on a lot of energy related labor.

00:58:23.900 I mean, they've been told for years, get out of this.

00:58:25.660 It's going to transition.

00:58:26.560 Don't join this labor force.

00:58:28.220 And now that even if we want to ramp it up, we don't have the skilled people really to push in there fast.

00:58:35.480 Right.

00:58:35.900 Yeah.

00:58:36.020 So this a lot of this, I think, is you can interpret it as sort of like the chickens coming home to roost, that things that have been in place for years are now finally rearing their ugly head.

00:58:44.620 And that it's, as you say, so yes, up till now, we've been focusing on this conversation on like the physical capital that, hey, if you haven't been building the pipelines, if you haven't been developing the, you know, the oil wells and things like that, that then it's hard just to turn on a dime and say, oh, because the supplies from Europe are low, you know, now we need to ramp up or the Canadian context.

00:59:04.280 now because the european exports are in trouble like you know canada can fill the gap it's hard

00:59:09.560 just to turn that on on a dime but you're right there's the human element as well that if you

00:59:13.440 were somebody a 20 year old going into engineering of some form that yeah you would have also thought

00:59:20.180 oh the wave of the future i want to get into the renewable sector because that seems to be

00:59:24.340 promising and that's where the future lies you wouldn't necessarily be going into these old

00:59:29.060 what you think are now obsolete technology so yeah at this point if we need more of that there's

00:59:33.980 there's a shortage yeah so i mean we know that the problem is kind of acute and we seem to be on a

00:59:39.180 similar trajectory to europe right now and we got another winter approaching in a few months like

00:59:44.140 what where are the solutions though what can we do conceivably to ease this if we could coax the

00:59:49.020 government want to address it so i mean the i think the obvious thing would be to rethink the

00:59:54.860 policies that you know canada that the federal and provincial levels depending on which province

00:59:59.340 we're talking about has that are quite analogous to what they had in europe so clearly um you know

01:00:05.260 i and we've written a fraser institute on this more like the federal carbon tax for one thing

01:00:10.860 even if you stipulated you know the conventional theory about externalities and how you need to

01:00:17.100 have a tax in place to get um firms and consumers to take into account their greenhouse gas emissions

01:00:22.300 and the effect it has even so the canadian version of that is much higher in terms of you know where

01:00:28.780 it's projected to go by 2030 than what the conventional estimates are of the of the impact

01:00:32.940 of a marginal ton of emissions so that's clearly not calibrated at the right level so at the very

01:00:38.140 least you'd want to rethink that policy and then just more generally uh the hostility to conventional

01:00:46.060 oil and gas development you know again that has a chilling effect on investment so i think

01:00:50.380 policy makers should clarify and say look at if we recognize this is an important part of the

01:00:55.100 the energy mix, then we're not going to take actions down the road to penalize this. And so

01:00:59.980 investors can be assured that if they go ahead and build something, that they'll be able to

01:01:05.100 recoup their investment. Yeah. Well, that hostility, a lot of it has more ideological

01:01:10.140 underpinnings than legislative, I guess you could say, or policy. I guess I'm asking you to get a

01:01:16.640 bit speculative. Do you think there's much chance of this government wanting to bend on a bit of

01:01:20.380 that? I mean, again, I can engage in the cold hard analysis here. You're right. But right. I am

01:01:29.260 doubtful. It's partly too, because, you know, certain political officials, if they made a

01:01:34.960 career out of certain types of right, it would be hard for them to turn on a dime. And, but, you

01:01:39.020 know, there always is sometimes there is a case where when something really is a crisis situation

01:01:44.600 that they are willing to rethink and to realize, okay, maybe our plans before a bit too aggressive

01:01:49.800 And, you know, what we're trying to do right now is too painful to our constituents.

01:01:53.740 So, yeah, there is room for that. And I think both sides should be forgiving.

01:01:59.700 You know what I mean? Like if some side is willing to sort of make concessions and realize, OK, maybe what we've been trying to do is too aggressive and it's having unintended consequences,

01:02:06.940 then the other side should welcome that and not say, oh, but this is all your fault that, you know, say, OK, well, thank you for seeing the light finally.

01:02:14.900 Yeah, well, there are some pragmatic people in government, even if it doesn't feel like it at

01:02:18.020 times. And I'm sure they're hearing from their constituents, you know, they're having trouble

01:02:20.900 paying the rent, having trouble getting to work or paying the utility bills that, you know,

01:02:25.200 something's got to ease. So maybe they'll be more receptive to reevaluating, I guess,

01:02:28.880 the way the policy has been. Yeah. And I would say, too, just, you know, I'm in the U.S. and

01:02:33.800 Canada, and I see the difference in the debates there. And in the U.S., it does tend to be more

01:02:38.440 ideological, whereas in Canada, there's more of an emphasis on the actual data that, you know,

01:02:43.440 the Canadians seem, at least relative to the American political debate, it's more pragmatic.

01:02:48.720 Like, is this working or not? And if it's not working, then we need to rethink this.

01:02:53.300 Yeah, well, and I appreciate that. And, you know, with what you put together,

01:02:56.620 because it's saying, can Canada avoid it? I mean, you know, you're saying there's room to

01:03:00.140 avoid this crisis. We might be moving towards it. But if we pay attention, perhaps, and use the data

01:03:04.640 and look ahead, we don't have to suffer quite the energy price shocks that they did.

01:03:09.800 Yeah, so that's definitely, yeah, it's not a doomsaying document.

01:03:12.700 It is more just of a warning.

01:03:13.740 And yes, there is time for the Canadians to react to this situation and to try to avoid

01:03:19.480 suffering the similar fate.

01:03:21.280 And, you know, at the end of the day, obviously, Canada is in a much better position sitting

01:03:25.940 on all of those resources, as opposed to like Germany, which was so reliant on Russian exports

01:03:31.360 of natural gas.

01:03:32.100 And so now they're really in a tight spot.

01:03:34.600 Yeah, I mean, if you don't have the resources, there's nothing you can do.

01:03:36.580 you're going to be relying on somebody else providing.

01:03:39.020 So we're fortunate that we have it.

01:03:40.220 We just have to make sure we're properly utilizing it, I guess.

01:03:44.100 That's where the discussion's important.

01:03:46.700 Well, I appreciate you coming on to explain that

01:03:48.280 and you're putting out that report.

01:03:51.180 Where can we find more information about what you've done

01:03:53.580 and where the report is in full?

01:03:55.660 You can just go to Fraser.org.

01:03:59.660 And I guess just look for the can.

01:04:02.340 Well, I think it's right up top in the reports there

01:04:04.680 and then releases anyways of this one.

01:04:06.200 among other things, right? Yeah, exactly. Okay. Well, in closing, anything else you'd like to

01:04:11.140 add before I let you go, Mr. Murphy? Well, again, I just would like to encourage Canadians to not 0.87

01:04:16.480 take the media's treatment of these issues at face value. And that, again, it's not a matter

01:04:21.800 of, oh, this is what the oil sector says or whatever. Even in terms of the conventional

01:04:25.000 economic analysis, a lot of these policies don't make sense and that they're being overly punitive

01:04:30.240 on traditional forms of energy. And we're seeing this crisis play out in Europe and

01:04:36.040 and hopefully we can avert it in time

01:04:37.540 so it doesn't come to Canada.

01:04:39.040 Yeah, well, we can only keep encouraging

01:04:40.980 a nuanced, rational discussion on it

01:04:42.660 and hope for better outcomes.

01:04:44.160 So I thank you for your contribution

01:04:46.280 and for coming on to talk to us today.

01:04:48.320 Thanks for having me.

01:04:49.280 All right, thanks.

01:04:50.760 Yes, that was Robert Murphy with the Fraser Institute.

01:04:53.320 And it is a good, even the executive summary alone

01:04:56.020 kind of covers it.

01:04:56.860 And if you wanna dig more,

01:04:57.700 there's a lot of excellent data in the full report.

01:05:00.240 As he said, at FraserInstitute.org,

01:05:02.540 you can get all that there.

01:05:03.480 And we're moving towards this.

01:05:06.040 We're getting the warnings.

01:05:08.320 Those things, you know, I play around a lot on Twitter.

01:05:10.840 I put out my I told you so tweet from a tweet I did back in, I think it was like fall, September of last year, saying, guess what?

01:05:18.000 If we keep going like this, we're going to see mass inflation in the Bank of Canada is going to raise interest rates.

01:05:22.560 And lo and behold, what's happened since then?

01:05:25.720 Well, we see mass inflation in the government's, in Bank of Canada is raising interest rates.

01:05:30.420 That's just straight math.

01:05:32.160 You see, we got the warnings.

01:05:33.400 We got it.

01:05:33.860 We see it coming.

01:05:34.700 The train is coming. We're already in economic trouble. And it's going to get worse if we don't

01:05:40.060 do something about it. So let's start talking about it. I mean, it might be screaming in the

01:05:43.820 wind like I did on Twitter, or maybe some people will be listening. So things, you know, with this

01:05:47.960 energy crisis, and it would have a frustrating place to be where we're sitting on some of the

01:05:52.800 most generous energy resources on the planet. Yet we can't seem to bring ourselves to develop it.

01:05:59.420 it's absurd. And it's causing a lot of economic hardship to a lot of people right now.

01:06:05.780 I've said it many times on here, the cost of energy impacts everything. There's almost no

01:06:11.400 other commodity that will impact the price of everything like energy will because every consumer

01:06:17.580 good you get gets shipped to you one way or another to a truck or a train or a plane. They

01:06:22.120 don't come on cargo bikes, despite what the hipsters want to tell you. Most bikes are made by energy as

01:06:26.460 well anyhow. Plus, of course, heating your house. We're a winter country. You know, you need the

01:06:32.780 energy. You got it. There's no avoiding it. We're a spread out country. You've got to commute to

01:06:36.900 work. There's very few people live within walking distance of their workplace. Even if it's public

01:06:40.800 transit, those costs always still come to you. And here we are sitting on all this energy and

01:06:47.680 we refuse to develop it in full and we're paying a terrible price for it. And as Tiggy sitting

01:06:54.060 there, one of the commenters, it doesn't have to be this way. No, it doesn't. That's the thing.

01:06:57.700 It doesn't have to be at all. So, yeah, that's, again, a guest worth looking into and things like

01:07:05.840 that. And there's Shirley saying Trudeau doesn't care if his anti-oil and gas is destroying the

01:07:12.160 industry. That's part of what I was getting into, and I didn't want to get Mr. Murphy too deep into

01:07:15.940 the weeds there with that, because that's not his role. I'm an opinion guy, so I put the opinion out,

01:07:19.920 But as to whether or not, you know, it's the government's going to be receptive to change.

01:07:23.920 And the hardest person to ever, you know, try and reason with is an ideologue.

01:07:28.600 I mean, and that ideology can be religious or it can be political.

01:07:33.380 You both, I mean, try to get in a battle with somebody who you differ with on a religious basis.

01:07:38.440 I mean, come on, talk about a feudal fight.

01:07:40.940 The conversion rate on those arguments can be pretty harsh.

01:07:44.180 And they've embraced their faith, whatever it may be, and they're not going to bend on it.

01:07:48.260 It's very similar with political ideology, and it's difficult.

01:07:53.920 So I don't hold a lot of optimism with Trudeau himself.

01:07:55.960 But as I did say, they're hiding in there.

01:07:58.840 They are.

01:07:59.320 There's a lot of liberal MPs.

01:08:00.600 Not every one of them is as much of a hammerhead as our prime minister

01:08:04.900 and his environment minister and some of his other ministers.

01:08:09.300 There's actually some bright lights down in the back benches,

01:08:12.420 which is probably why they're in the back benches.

01:08:14.320 As I said, we have an insecure prime minister who doesn't want the smart ones next to him.

01:08:18.260 The analogy I've used before, too, is be the insecure girl who tries to make sure she goes to the nightclub

01:08:22.840 with a couple of less aesthetically desirable girls with her so she can feel a little more outstanding.

01:08:29.620 And I tell you, that put a lot of work on guys to get some very dedicated wingmen to fully exploit those.

01:08:35.080 But either way, I'm going down another rabbit hole with that.

01:08:39.300 But we can reason with some of those members of Parliament.

01:08:42.900 I mean, they're hearing from their constituents.

01:08:45.320 People are getting pissed off with them.

01:08:46.780 They're having trouble paying their bills.

01:08:48.040 They're sick of the carbon tax. They're fearful for their jobs. So maybe some reason will get

01:08:55.700 through because I mean, again, hey, being green is great. So you can't make the rent, you know,

01:09:01.020 so you don't have a job, so you can't afford food for the household. So your ideology can start to

01:09:07.840 slip when you actually can't make the bills. I was going to Sylvia asking if we have anybody

01:09:11.440 covering Arthur's trial today. I don't know. I mean, the newsroom is always watching everything

01:09:15.600 is going on. So I imagine if there's a verdict or something going on in Paloski's legal status,

01:09:20.880 so probably be some reporting on it. I can't see. We cover a lot of stuff, though. We cover the

01:09:25.040 news. So if it comes out big, I imagine there'll be a story on it. Let's see. Is there a video of

01:09:30.780 Jason Kenney where you went to the States? Oh, yeah. So yeah, Kenney went down and, well, kind

01:09:35.520 of asked why they're not looking at Canada for oil and gas. It was one of Kenney's, I guess,

01:09:39.120 ironically, you know, good actions as a premier, it was too late. His premiership was already gone.

01:09:45.680 He got back from Washington just the day before the leadership review came in, but he did do a

01:09:49.720 good trip down there talking to senators, talking to them and basically saying, look, we're sitting

01:09:53.780 on all this. We're right next door. Why is your president begging Saudi Arabia for oil? You know,

01:10:00.140 he put it more diplomatically, but we do have to do those trade missions. That's kind of what I was

01:10:04.000 talking a bit about too. And it's hard to get somebody, you know, a researcher such as Mr.

01:10:08.600 Murphy to explain, get into that. But we've got to play the politics a bit here. And we've got a

01:10:14.780 prime minister who's not going in. The prime minister should be doing that. That's the federal

01:10:18.740 role. The federal role is way too big on so many levels. But international affairs is where they're

01:10:23.220 supposed to be. And if anybody should be going and talking to our American neighbors about how can we

01:10:27.640 expand trade, how can we better serve each other as neighbors, it should be the federal government.

01:10:32.200 If not Trudeau, send a foreign affairs minister. But then we got Jolie and she's dumber than a 1.00

01:10:37.280 bag of rocks. Again, Trudeau's cabinet doesn't do us any favors. I was talking to Mac and Chuck 0.99

01:10:41.760 about that the other day as well. You know, we're not respected on the world stage. We've got a lot

01:10:47.040 of problems. So Kenny got up and went out himself and promoted. And I appreciate that. You know,

01:10:53.400 at least somebody's going down there and speaking on our behalf and speaking on the American's

01:10:57.220 behalf. You know, more Americans should be getting pissed off now with a president who refuses to

01:11:02.960 accept more Canadian oil. It's right on the doorstep, ethically produced, clean oil and gas

01:11:08.580 products. And he's sniveling to Saudi Arabia and Venezuela, dictatorships, places where they whip

01:11:14.720 gay people to death. He wants to buy their blood oil before daring to open the Keystone pipeline. 0.99

01:11:19.820 Yeah, he should be put to that question on that. What a ridiculous stance. But again, it's ideologues, 0.98

01:11:25.460 right? It's not common sense. It's not reality. Remember, people like Trudeau and Biden,

01:11:31.240 they've never had to sweat paying the rent before.

01:11:33.760 They've never had to look at what it costs

01:11:35.900 to fill their vehicle to get to work.

01:11:38.440 You know, they don't care.

01:11:39.720 The chefs bring their food.

01:11:41.360 They don't realize how much it costs

01:11:42.560 to get the groceries to do that.

01:11:44.800 So unfortunately, we're not going to see

01:11:47.640 some common sense policies on them.

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01:12:57.440 All right, let's scroll through some of this news I got here still.

01:13:01.820 Yeah, so just back to those kits, right?

01:13:03.700 The government had purchased 118 million testing kits,

01:13:06.800 and they've warehoused 18 million of them sitting there and more coming.

01:13:12.260 It's bizarre. 1.00

01:13:13.440 They're reactive and foolish. 1.00

01:13:16.380 Four billion. 1.00

01:13:17.540 The health department disclosed the government-wide billion spent on rapid tests.

01:13:22.280 Four billion on these tests.

01:13:23.700 and only 472 million of 603 were distributed.

01:13:29.440 So yeah, these numbers bounce all over.

01:13:31.560 So 100 million stockpiled, what a waste of money, 0.93

01:13:34.520 total waste of bloody money.

01:13:36.140 Again, this is why the inflation's happening 0.57

01:13:37.620 because the government's just spending like mad,

01:13:39.740 which means they open up the printing presses

01:13:41.540 and they flood the market with money.

01:13:43.540 And then when the inflation happens,

01:13:44.760 the Bank of Canada raises the interest rates

01:13:46.200 to try and cool it down.

01:13:47.260 We've been in this cycle before, guys.

01:13:49.600 We've been here.

01:13:50.140 And the end of that cycle is recession every time.

01:13:54.180 Because yes, the Bank of Canada will, if they raise interest rates enough, the economy will

01:13:58.820 cool down enough that inflation goes down. But the reason is because nobody's got any money to spend.

01:14:03.440 You won't buy a house. You won't buy a car. You won't do these things because you can't afford

01:14:07.120 to. The interest rates are too high. Or businesses, they stopped doing capital expansions and things

01:14:12.000 like that because again, they needed to finance for that and the interest rates are too high.

01:14:16.120 Plus the government paying on all their federal debt, those interest rates get too high. So yeah,

01:14:20.500 it'll work. It'll slow down inflation, but at quite a cost. And again, it's because you've

01:14:28.000 got a government that's incompetent. Yeah. Buying and shelving millions of COVID tests. And 0.92

01:14:32.880 this is one of the many, many things they're wasting our money on to no good purpose.

01:14:38.500 Let's see here. Here's some brilliance. Yeah. Speaking of government agencies spending money.

01:14:44.340 So this was a poll done, I guess, or a survey by Elections Canada, our electoral masters there, the ones who manage things like that, and asked people, they found that winning candidates in elections were more likely to have asked for their votes in person.

01:15:00.900 Yeah, so they did this study to find out what every political campaign has known for the last 300 years.

01:15:09.240 Your best chance of getting somebody's vote is having the candidate speak one-on-one with the person.

01:15:15.020 Wow, profound.

01:15:15.940 How much money did you guys spend to figure that one out?

01:15:18.460 Good work.

01:15:19.600 Really, I appreciate spending more tax dollars towards you guys to figure that out.

01:15:23.440 and uh i guess part of what that's tied to is is because of the bloody pandemic there's been

01:15:29.560 fewer people actually going door to door giving those one-on-one maybe that's part of why the

01:15:33.700 voter turnouts in general are going down we don't have that engagement that we had before but hey

01:15:38.820 if you're looking to run for office there's a tip i'll throw out to you we get a lot of political

01:15:41.820 folks out here and everything you listen to any campaign manager particularly at least if you're

01:15:45.700 on a mla or municipal or or even mp level your best tool is to get that candidate out there

01:15:52.240 hammering on those doors is as exhausting and frustrating and tiring as it can be. And it's

01:15:55.940 effective. If you can get them to meet as many people as possible, it works. Well, if you got

01:16:00.460 a good candidate, if they're a jerk, well, they're just going to put more people off. But either way, 0.99

01:16:04.500 Elections Canada spent the money just to kind of reaffirm what we all already knew. So good work,

01:16:10.000 guys. Thanks. I appreciate sending a little more of my chat over to you so you could

01:16:13.160 figure that out. Yeah, figures show 90% of the incumbents and 90% of the elected candidates

01:16:17.700 campaign door to door. Well, yeah, go figure, eh? Personal appeals were highest among candidates on

01:16:25.380 the prairies at 82%, Ontario 78% and lowest in BC at 61%. We're back at 57%. So yeah, there's our

01:16:35.480 tax dollars at work. Sylvia's saying, it'd be epic if I get Michelle Rippel-Garner on the show. 1.00

01:16:41.700 I've had Michelle on before. I might get her on again. I don't know. I can't be sure of that, 0.99

01:16:49.720 though the offer of a bunch of progies is a tempting one. I love progies, good ones anyways,

01:16:53.940 especially when you get some sauerkraut in them. But I'll see what I can do. Michelle's been, yeah,

01:16:58.080 well, it looks like she's dipping her toe in the water for the UCP leadership. So we'll see if

01:17:02.180 she's heading down that path. And she's also made some, in my view, bizarre choices on the federal

01:17:08.600 front, but maybe she would want to discuss those things. But if I can get her, I will. I certainly

01:17:13.420 will. Here's another survey. You know, again, we're spending so much money on these surveys to

01:17:19.540 find the obvious. A quarter of Canadians report eating less than they should due to rising prices.

01:17:24.660 Yeah, you know, growing number of Canadians are struggling with the cost of food as prices for

01:17:28.160 basics. So we're talking pasta, bread, meat, they're all going through the roof. Food banks,

01:17:31.980 they're having trouble. Food insecurity, this is from Main Street Research. So 25% of people,

01:17:37.620 and that's basically doubled

01:17:40.040 for the amount of people

01:17:41.800 who are earning under $50,000 a year.

01:17:43.360 That's scary.

01:17:44.260 That's needs.

01:17:44.900 That's not luxuries.

01:17:46.200 It's not the cigarettes,

01:17:47.020 the booze, the travel.

01:17:48.460 This is food.

01:17:49.520 This is feeding your family.

01:17:50.520 It's what you got to have.

01:17:51.920 People are having trouble

01:17:52.720 paying the bills for it.

01:17:54.560 This is where the inflation is going.

01:17:56.800 But this government

01:17:57.600 with a finance minister

01:18:00.500 who can't figure out time 0.98

01:18:01.720 to look at her own bloody budget,

01:18:04.060 this is not comforting.

01:18:05.500 Another strange case. I still couldn't quite make sense of this. This is where human rights

01:18:10.480 tribunals, I wonder about stuff though. Just a kind of a bizarre side story I saw. So this is

01:18:15.500 over the case of an optical optometrist business in all over BC. And a human rights commission

01:18:23.920 has ruled in favor of a former manager in giving her $70,000 over where her name was placed,

01:18:30.500 the order on the sign up front. I guess they felt that she was being unfairly targeted because he

01:18:36.220 didn't put her name higher on the sign, listing all the different doctors or specialists.

01:18:40.560 It's really bizarre. And it goes down a rabbit hole of a bunch of weird internal fighting this

01:18:45.540 company ad and other strange things. I'm not sure what it's about, but most of the principle that

01:18:50.660 got me going on that is it shouldn't be the role of a human rights tribunal to go into that crap.

01:18:55.460 You know, I mean, that sort of labor relations board, the amount of regular severance, two weeks, 0.87

01:18:59.300 four weeks, whatever it turns out to be. And it's done. I don't like these commissions coming in

01:19:03.500 and telling private businesses how to run things over different personal tips or beefs they've got

01:19:09.440 and things like that. And that's a big rule. For a small story, 70 grand going into this woman's

01:19:13.760 pocket because her name wasn't placed highly enough on a sign. These human rights commissions, 0.99

01:19:20.140 they haven't been making as much news as they used to, like back in the days when they were

01:19:23.100 really targeting Ezra Levant or comedians or a number of the absurd and ridiculous things those

01:19:27.640 commissions were doing back, you know, about 10, 15 years ago. But they're still there. And they're

01:19:31.760 still coming out with some pretty ridiculous rulings. And you got to remember, these are 0.95

01:19:35.380 quasi judicial courts. I mean, they can really get you in the soup, but you don't have all of

01:19:39.880 the legal defenses and means that you would in a proper regular court when you go before one of

01:19:43.600 these commissions. So you got to worry about these things. So they're still at it. So that's another

01:19:47.460 issue we've always got to worry about on the political front is these commissions.

01:19:53.320 All right, I'm going to wrap things up for today. And tomorrow I've got, I'm looking to get a second

01:19:56.880 guests here going quickly, but one of them is going to be Leslyn Lewis. She's going to come 0.86

01:19:59.780 on and we're going to talk a little bit of World Economic Forum stuff. Always popular, isn't it?

01:20:03.740 So yeah, we're going to have Leslyn Lewis on for a segment. And of course, a lot of other

01:20:07.880 chat on news and items. And I will rant about something fresh and new at that point.

01:20:14.080 So thank you all for tuning in today, guys. I appreciate it. And I will see you all again

01:20:18.720 tomorrow at 1130 a.m. sharp.

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