00:00:30.000Hey there, it's January 26 2022 and welcome to Triggered. I'm Cory Morgan. This is going to be a live daily show that's going to be coming to you Monday to Friday, every day except on holidays at 1130 a.m. Mountain Standard Time. Comments are welcome. I mean that's one of the great things about a live show. We've got challenges with a live show and we've got some fantastic things with doing a live show.
00:00:56.560So, I mean, I invite the comments in there, comment to me, comment to our guests, comment with each other, just try to keep things polite and civil.
00:01:04.780You know, the internet's got enough vitriol on it, we don't need to add to it, we can still get worked up and wound up without being too cruel with each other.
00:01:12.660I got a good show lined up today, we got a couple of guests coming on, one of our colonists, Dave Makachuk, is going to be on at 11.50, I believe,
00:01:22.140And he's going to be speaking on a call written on the Russia, China, Russia and Ukraine situation going on over there.
00:01:32.900And yeah, it's quite a potential thing going on.
00:01:36.200Later on, I'm going to have a former progressive conservative cabinet minister, Donna Kennedy Glanzon.
00:01:41.100She's going to be on at, I believe, 1220.
00:01:45.480And she's going to speak to us on something she'd written about, you know, some of the challenges on public-private partnerships
00:01:50.320and wondering why is this such a challenging thing.
00:01:53.780So yeah, we've got a good show to look forward to
00:06:06.160On the Zello app, which I have no idea what that is,
00:06:08.820A user apparently said, if anything, we should grab Trudeau by the G-damn neck and kick the crap out of him for what he's done, said the user, who was immediately reminded by others, to keep things peaceful.
00:06:19.060I mean, so what? This is the chattering of a few nutcases, but this is what the media is focused on.
00:06:24.120And with hundreds of thousands of people talking about this protest on social media, it's not that hard to dig in and find a few of those nuts.
00:06:29.180The reality, though, is the majority of the people behind the movement are simply concerned Canadians who want pandemic restrictions to come to an end.
00:06:35.640I mean, you have to think pretty lowly of Canadians if you think that a movement of extremists will motivate tens of thousands of them to donate to it in a matter of days.
00:06:44.400Are we really so overrun with violent radicals?
00:06:47.140I mean, bias I understand and expect, but what we're witnessing here is the mainstream media actually working to undercut the credibility and fundraising ability of what's turning out to be one of the largest grassroots protests in Canadian history.
00:06:58.440They don't have to like it, but they should at least make an attempt to cover it fairly.
00:12:22.140I don't know what it means to culturally appropriate your recipes.
00:12:25.860So I guess we'll have to see what that looks like.
00:12:29.540I was also going to mention to you too, I've got a story from the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.
00:12:37.380They're going to be calling on Canadians to take pictures of your utility bills and specifically kind of highlight the carbon tax section.
00:12:47.380And they're suggesting we send those to our MPs and, you know, in sort of protest to the carbon tax,
00:12:57.360just to show what we're paying, what it's costing the average Canadian on their bills.
00:13:02.820So we'll have that story coming out here pretty quickly, too.
00:13:05.200Great. And I know you're watching the provincial scenes pretty closely. It's pretty significant watching, you know, everything ties into this trucker protest right now. But it's interesting to see Jason Kenney talking about how the vaccine mandates might not be fair or effective. But it has to be noted, they haven't lifted any of the provincial ones that they have the authority to cover. I mean, I still have to show, you know, my QR code before going into a restaurant for a bite to eat if I should choose to and things like that.
00:13:30.300I wonder if hopefully they'll be inspired to start considering changing some of their own
00:13:34.660mandates in light of supporting the, bringing down the federal ones. Well, yeah. And it, you know,
00:13:39.500it, as far as Premier Mo is speaking, yeah, he's, he's looking, he's saying within the next few
00:13:46.760days, Saskatchewan residents can be expecting some communication around further dropping
00:13:54.160restrictions in the province. And again, yeah, highlights the fact that he, he believes those
00:13:59.820have been vaccinated those who have chosen to when they put those vaccine mandates in place
00:14:04.620it was successful at encouraging more people to get vaccinated but he his comments are basically
00:14:11.980you know those who've been vaccinated i think those who haven't will not be so we need to we
00:14:17.820need to start getting back to normal we need to you know learn to live with covid and the vaccine
00:14:22.700mandates have kind of served their purpose great well thanks for joining me and i'll let you get
00:14:28.300get back to work. You got a whole lot to cover there. I appreciate it. And I'll talk to you
00:14:32.080after the show, I'm sure. Okay. Have a good one. Great. Thanks, Melanie. So it's that reminder to
00:14:36.440everybody. Yeah. Go to the westernstandardonline.com to get the full stories of these.
00:14:41.080We got a lot of great columnists. We've got news as it's breaking. We're based on subscriptions.
00:14:46.620You know, as usual, I give myself serving tirades against the mainstream media. But I mean, part of
00:14:51.500it is because we are building an alternative to it. And we don't get government funding at all
00:15:26.040media narrative saying we have another January 6th coming up in Ottawa with this collection of
00:15:31.000truckers heading out there. Canadians are, for the most part, pretty peaceful people and law-abiding
00:15:35.620people, and they don't want to hurt each other. And one of the things that we get falsely accused
00:15:38.880of, too, is firearm owners. You know, they talk as if it's something that we shouldn't have the
00:15:43.500ability to use or possess or, you know, collect even firearms. Well, the Canada Shooting Sports
00:15:50.700Association, these guys, they're standing up for your right and ability to responsibly and safely
00:15:56.000use firearms, of course, you know, not criminally. We got no use for criminals. Nobody does.
00:16:00.560These guys are out there. Their website is cssa-cila.org. And what they do, they provide
00:16:07.500a lot of resources on how events, whether it's for shooting sports, as their name implies,
00:16:12.860target shooting. I mean, some kids go to the Olympics on, you know, target shooting events,
00:16:18.140things such as that. They also have resources for hunting, finding out where firearms shows are,
00:16:23.660things like that that are going on. It's just loaded with resources. As well, they're actively
00:16:27.880standing up on behalf of firearm owners. They've got a number of legal challenges against those
00:16:33.020constant liberal bills that are coming out that are taking away the types of property you're
00:16:37.680allowed to possess, use, own, hand down, any of those things. So check them out. Canada Shooting
00:16:43.340Sports Association. Consider taking out a membership for them because that's how they can stand up for
00:16:47.820you. I mean, this is great. We're watching people stand up for themselves. And that's what I've been
00:16:52.120inspired by with this, this convoy and the rest. We, I mean, we can peacefully make our case when
00:16:58.620we are upset with the government. I'm always upset with the government, but I've got a good platform
00:17:02.960for it. So back to that convoy. Yeah. You know, it's interesting just on that subject, like in
00:17:08.340Winnipeg, I saw some footage, thousands of people came out along the street. So you see, it's not
00:17:12.480just the people taking part within the convoy. It's not just the truckers who were involved in
00:17:17.540this, it is supporters of all kinds. It's gone well beyond just dealing with the vaccination
00:17:23.120mandate. But something that was really cool was, I guess, there were a whole bunch of members from
00:17:26.860local Hutterite colonies, of which there's a lot in Manitoba, of course, had come out and they
00:17:31.240brought food for all of the travelers, for the people in the convoy. They had sandwiches and
00:17:36.420I guess they'd dedicated something like 20 pigs towards it, you know, so a lot of pork for the
00:17:41.440drivers. But I mean, again, these are, if you want to talk about peaceful people, at least,
00:17:46.840You know, Hutterites, that's part of their faith. They are not up on, if they thought this was a violent movement whatsoever, they would not be out there supporting it. But they are business people, they are farmers, a lot of them are truckers. They're concerned about these mandates and things. I believe there was another Hutterite who was quoted who said 80% of the people on his colony were vaccinated. They're not fully in this anti-vaccination mode either. They're just concerned about being told what to do, all like the rest of us.
00:18:12.940So as we keep seeing this convoy being so mischaracterized by the media and demonized,
00:18:20.200let's remember we're not really seeing that happening out there.
00:18:23.560And, you know, they're going to get to Ottawa.
00:18:25.900There's going to be a lot of high-strung people going on.
00:18:42.080There's no real central leadership, which can be good and bad.
00:18:45.580You know, if things start to go poorly, how do you get it back on the rails?
00:18:49.620So all I can do is reach out to them and tell everybody, you know, you've got to self-govern when you're on Parliament Hill and you're there and you're making your statements.
00:18:56.980If somebody's doing something stupid, somebody's doing something embarrassing, it's up to you guys to put them back in order.
00:19:02.020We're talking about personal responsibility.
00:19:03.720That's what the whole nature of this protest is, right?
00:19:06.860Well, that's a big element of it is showing that you can take care of yourself and be a responsible citizen out there.
00:19:14.240So I'm really looking forward to see what happens in this convoy.
00:19:18.120And I'm looking forward to see if they help spawn some positive change.
00:19:22.220But that will be up to those guys out there.
00:19:23.980If they do go out and we have a mass movement of a bunch of jackasses on the hill, it's not going to help things.
00:19:31.960I mean, from people I've communicated with, by far and large, the majority of them are rational, good people who are just tired of where these restrictions have gone, and they want a means to push back.
00:19:45.740It's gone beyond the trucker basis that started it, and it's on to a large group of Canadians who just want to express themselves and say that they want to see some changes here.
00:19:55.680So my first guest I see is in the lobby there now, and that's Dave Makachuk.
00:19:59.600And Dave, if you follow westernstandardonline.com, you see his columns very frequently.
00:20:04.880He's a good, prolific writer and fantastic columns.
00:23:58.620I mean, the country that suffered so badly historically under the Soviet rule with Russia,
00:24:04.340I mean, you know, they were literally starved.
00:24:06.940They suffered due to rotten Soviet technology with the nuclear reactor.
00:24:11.440And then to potentially come back under, even though it wouldn't be communist, I guess, technically,
00:24:16.080but another russian regime i mean you know that the ukrainian population that doesn't deserve
00:24:21.200something like that but i mean it is difficult to say what does the world do to stop them and we
00:24:25.040don't want to see a giant war in europe i don't think anybody really wants to see that what are
00:24:29.440they going to do what are they going to do they i mean the us is talking about they're sending them
00:24:34.640um uh uh it's called um lethal aid it's called lethal aid and the americans are pouring it in
00:24:42.880the baltic countries are pouring it in uh to their credit canada has some troops in there
00:24:48.400some special forces which kind of shocked me but then again they may be involved in getting our
00:24:54.160embassy people out safely like they did in afghanistan so i think that's that's about i
00:24:59.520hardly think canadian troops will be fighting russian forces but i mean it's god you know
00:25:06.560You know, this is bad. This is really bad. And do you think, again, let me ask you this question. Do you think Ronald Reagan would put up with this? Do you think Ronald Reagan for a minute would put up with this?
00:25:22.5208,500 troops on alert? Why aren't they there already? Why aren't they in Poland now? Why aren't they in Romania now? Those poor countries are looking on.
00:25:34.520And all those Russian forces in the north and in the east are poised to, and also from, there's train loads.
00:25:47.540There's train loads, apparently 20 plus train loads of Russian troops have gone into Belarus in the last 48 hours.
00:26:01.080They're going to go in and people are going to die. And what are we doing about it? What is Biden doing? Sanctions are pointless. And, you know, those troops should be there already. Those troops should at least, for God's sake, for God's sake, send in the troops.
00:26:20.200I mean, what else? I don't know. I think Biden really screwed up. And of course, the West Wing tried to cover up for everything he said. But again, the last three presidencies have been pretty consistent on foreign policy. Even Trump was fairly consistent. And this, I think, gave Putin the green light. And I think he's a smart fellow.
00:26:48.200I really think it is. Now, mind you, we shall see what happens after. If they go in, we shall see what happens after. Will these sanctions, will the sanctions mentioned was the, you know, Nord Stream 2 and the SWIFT interbank system, taking them off the SWIFT interbank system, which would really hurt them.
00:28:37.940to limit and diminish U.S. power around the world.
00:28:43.320now if he goes in there if he goes in there and we do nothing i mean we've got the u.s not us
00:28:51.400the u.s has a carrier group sitting in the med and they've got f-35s they got f-18s
00:28:57.720you know what they could do what those planes can do they're incredible and there's and and there's
00:29:03.840and there's nothing else that can touch them now but they can't do anything it's all posturing
00:29:09.520It's all posturing. And Putin knows that. But the bigger picture is that China, which is not involved in Ukraine, fair enough, but they're on the same page.
00:29:21.300They're on the same page as Russia. And they want to seek a global, how should I say this, the reset of a global balance of power.
00:29:38.360And China's economy is almost as big as the United States now, 1.5 billion people.
00:29:44.500And all they got to do is bring it up a notch more and notch more and notch more.
00:29:48.940And they're spending, well, they're not spending like crazy like the Americans, but they are gradually, gradually, gradually getting stronger in every sector of the military, in every sector.
00:30:00.080And as you know, they're ahead of us, the United States, in hypersonic weapons.
00:30:07.800way ahead so there's that there that's the big picture russia and china
00:30:15.240want to and and and this is the scary part scary scenario
00:30:21.800if if russia goes in it will make it easier for china to take taiwan
00:30:29.320because they will know america is weak yeah i wanted we wanted to pivot to
00:30:35.400that. Yeah, because you'd written also on the Chinese issue in a more recent column. And China
00:30:40.780is starting to do some posturing around Taiwan. Again, it seems these large, you know, communist
00:30:45.440and or former communist states want to go back to their expansionism and take back those states
00:30:49.080they lost in past years. But I mean, with the Olympics coming up, we got so many factors that
00:30:55.280come in on this. Does that perhaps buy short reprieve? I don't think China is going to want
00:31:01.160to make a move, or perhaps even Russia, to distract from, ironically, something as in
00:31:06.740some sense as petty as the Olympic Games, but at the same time, it's a big world event.
00:31:11.720It is a big world event, and I've heard people say, well, they'll wait until after that's
00:31:29.340I'm not sure if you heard, but this week, the People's Liberation Air Force sent in dozens and dozens and dozens of planes into Taiwan's defense zone, essentially, you know, forcing Taiwan.
00:31:49.860And they've been doing this all year, just pushing it and pushing it and pushing it.
00:31:56.660There's absolutely nothing to stop them.
00:31:57.880But let me say this about that. It doesn't take a hero pilot to get up and get in his plane and harass a small democratic island. As far as I'm concerned, that's total cowardice. That's complete cowardice.
00:32:14.780That pilot from the PLAF, whatever he's flying, he knows that evening he will be in a nice place having his dinner.
00:39:52.660Well, we'll watch and wait with apprehension as observers.
00:39:56.180So I know you're going to be keeping an eye on it, and you'll continue to write and report on what's happening over there.
00:40:01.860Like I said, we're just almost overwhelmed with news, and it's easy to forget that there's a big world out there with a lot of other challenges happening.
00:40:08.060So thanks for bringing us up to date on there, Dave.
00:40:11.140And we can find your stuff on westernstandardonline.com.
00:40:14.600And I look forward to talking to you again soon.
00:40:30.920You can only cover so much in 20 minutes.
00:40:32.940Yeah, I mean, and just one more thing I wanted to add.
00:40:36.560The big concern in the United States is that, and this is terrible to end the conversation this way, but Putin may have moved tactical nuclear weapons to the border, and that's very bad.
00:40:49.700U.S. spy planes are trying to sniff them out right now, and that's very bad.
00:41:21.780I mean, if we remember Bosnia, Herzegovina, you know, a population we thought was somewhat stable.
00:41:27.160But when the Soviet Union that was kind of holding them together by force backed off,
00:41:30.640they were at each other's throats in the most horrific of ways for years.
00:41:34.060As I said, I got to do a fair amount of travel as a young person, and some of the horrors that were done in Guatemala and El Salvador and some of those countries when the Cold War was feeding civil wars with them, it was just awful, and I just can't, I don't like to envision that we're heading back to that sort of thing.
00:41:52.300So let's keep an eye on it, you know, and that's part of it.
00:41:54.820I mean, if we keep speaking up for what it's worth,
00:41:57.220we're, I think, a more advanced and civilized world.
00:42:00.080Maybe we can head some of these conflicts off,
00:42:02.820or at least, you know, as Dave said, let's just hope for peace,
00:42:05.480because we just don't want to see a war,
00:42:07.600and nobody does better out of it, aside from arms dealers.
00:42:10.420But that's a whole separate show altogether.
00:42:14.380I'm going to have Donna getting a little closer to home here
00:44:43.440We've had, of course, challenges with the ambulance services.
00:44:46.220I mean, people have been finding themselves vulnerable, particularly in rural areas.
00:44:50.580Like I live in Prittis just outside of Calgary.
00:44:52.620Our ambulance is constantly in Calgary servicing Calgary needs.
00:44:57.700If we have any needs down in Prittis, they end up dispatching sometimes as far south as Nanton because it just keeps going outward and outward.
00:45:03.760One of the problems, one, and there's many with it, have been that ambulances, when they come in, they come to the hospital, they deliver the patient.
00:45:11.520And if the patient isn't, you know, completely critical and needs immediately, you know, to be triaged into emergency care, quite often the paramedics are put into what's called hallway care.
00:45:21.280The hospital staff and nurses won't sign off and take the patients and the paramedics are obligated to sit there and care for them.
00:45:30.620And I took pictures when I went and wrote on this.
00:45:32.560Like there was eight to nine ambulances sitting parked out in the parking lot outside of Rocky View Hospital just at a random time.
00:45:39.560And that's typical because they're all in there caring for patients in the hallways.
00:45:42.880Meanwhile, we get red alerts throughout the city because there's no ambulances available.
00:45:46.620And it's been going on for a long time.
00:45:49.360And it's a very troublesome situation.
00:45:51.440Now, in the health update yesterday with Dina Hinshaw and Jason Kenney, it looks like they're going to be at least working on this.
00:45:59.140And one of the things they said is they're going to make it so immediately they have to take those patients when they come into the hospital.
00:59:08.880uh there's a programmed instinct to say well they're going to gouge people or they're going
00:59:13.440to take advantage of people or or they shouldn't be involved whatsoever and unfortunately they i
00:59:17.900mean i saw that going back to that ambulance situation because it used to be municipalities
00:59:21.920actually contracted their own and they were often private providers and i was at some town hall
00:59:25.840meetings and some people though as soon as there was even talk and i know we don't want to go into
00:59:29.500the whole private health care now that's a whole separate ball of wax but the reality is there's
00:59:33.460some degree of private provision and there had been uh people's backs were up and that's just
00:59:38.040discussion just comes right off the table before you can even actually explore it I think that's
00:59:42.460hindering us isn't it I agree totally and I think that's part of what are what we've learned from
00:59:48.480COVID is that it can work when it really has to work it can work it's not perfect but it can work
00:59:54.720but what does it require it requires transparency it requires a clarity about values and it requires
01:00:02.080some account of people have to be accountable but it also requires us as citizens to say hey that
01:00:10.080feels really squishy to me i don't have a problem with somebody in the oil sands making money i
01:00:16.320don't frankly you know if you invest that's it's it's a legal investment that's as long as you're
01:00:22.000not compromising all of our reputations by the way that you manage those assets and that's up
01:00:27.440to us to to enforce as well in the public sector but if you are at the same time trying you know
01:00:35.040going around sitting on committees and getting public money diverted to your pet projects
01:00:41.360I've got a problem with that. I didn't see Marg Southern asking the government of Alberta for
01:00:47.120money to fund Spruce Meadow. Marg Southern and Ron figured out that that was a really important
01:00:52.880thing that they cared about they invested in it the community benefits but they didn't come to
01:00:58.240the government asking for money i have a problem with that and i think we need a lot more transparency
01:01:03.840around how we give away money to um build up investment build up entrepreneurship
01:01:12.560build up big infrastructure projects i get it there has to be public money in these things
01:01:18.000but who's driving that bus who's making the decisions and who's benefiting because these
01:01:23.840are issues of public interest they're not private interest those are public interest questions and
01:01:30.480you know i think i've got to look my granddaughter in the eyes and say one day
01:01:34.400yep i supported that decision or no i didn't and and this is why and we're just kind of meek about
01:01:42.160you're right about you know being uncomfortable with people making money we've got a bit of a
01:01:46.640funny thing around that although i think it's it's less severe in alberta and certainly less
01:01:51.840severe in quebec but we also have this funny thing about you know not wanting to speak out
01:01:58.880not wanting to you know be that tall poppy i guess that gets his head taken off but we really have to
01:02:06.720we're the ones who will hold governments and companies accountable that's part of all of
01:02:14.240our job as citizens and i don't think that's a bad thing i think we just need to have confidence
01:02:20.080in doing it when people speak up we need to listen and say what's behind that sometimes
01:02:25.120the facts are wrong but if they are we need to clarify and i just i think it's a cultural issue
01:02:31.920for us i have heard from i've heard from dozens and dozens and dozens of people in the last six
01:02:39.920months about this boards all over the place where things aren't really being done in a way that makes
01:02:47.680people comfortable that's not okay that's that's on all of us and it's hurting all of us because
01:02:53.840it means that public money that should be fueling things and making things better isn't and that's
01:03:00.320a problem we don't have enough money to do all these things like we used to we have to be smarter
01:03:05.120and I think we can be. Yeah well and Laurie Carter is a commenter on here and said transparency and
01:03:10.560accountability is is for sure needed like the the path to trust I think with the public is if we
01:03:14.960could have some transparency we see what's going on I understand government contracting something
01:03:20.640from the private sector but I get upset when I see sole source contracting going on when I see that
01:03:25.760it just popped out and more often than not we seem to find somebody well connected might happen to
01:03:30.640own it not I mean maybe the sole source might have been the best one but I want to see
01:03:34.080what you went through to make that decision to choose that contractor. And when we don't get
01:03:39.160to see that, we immediately start to think something funny is going on. With good reason.
01:03:44.680Absolutely. With good reason. Again, I've worked in lots and lots of countries where we paid a lot
01:03:50.620of attention to those kinds of things when we were bidding out contracts. And even if it wasn't
01:03:56.100something that was normal in that jurisdiction, we had to do that because we have to respect the
01:04:01.760values of the organization wherever you're operating you've got the same values at your core
01:04:07.080so it's it's not like we don't know how to do this it's almost like we've um we've kind of just
01:04:14.720we've condoned it that's probably the right word and they call it gray corruption um it's kind of
01:04:22.260a fuzzy space where it's not black and white and i have this blog called beyond polarity so i kind
01:04:28.000of like things that aren't black and white all the time too and and and i in the the piece that
01:04:34.840you the blog that you were mentioning we we went to a lot of we spent a lot of time trying to figure
01:04:40.880out what the pathways are forward and and it's hard it's actually really really hard work to not
01:04:48.080pick a side and not say well it should be private or it should be public and actually bring it
01:04:52.260together and and come up with something that's more creative we did it during covid we did it
01:04:57.620because we had to and I guess with the economy really being shaken up right now and and your
01:05:04.460earlier guests talking about what's going on more you know globally and Russia and China coming
01:05:08.940together and I'm going to throw in the Arctic I think we're just we've got to keep our eyes on
01:05:14.180things that are close to home too and the Arctic is for us a really big deal in Canada and we're
01:05:19.400just we're gonna have to get smarter and that's part of part of that part of that equation means
01:05:26.960we have to be clear about what we expect when those kinds of collaborations happen.
01:05:33.600Yeah. So maybe briefly, I mean, a term that's been lost and it was used a lot in the past when
01:05:38.560we were talking about investing in infrastructure and things was P3s, you know, public private
01:05:42.740partnerships. And that was being applied to all sorts of infrastructure projects. I'm not sure
01:05:47.460how many ever actually went through and it worked out necessarily that well, but it was a big
01:05:51.640concept then. We don't seem to hear much about that now. Do you address a bit of that in your
01:05:55.520book and what areas do you think though of government expenditure are appropriate for
01:06:01.580some more collaborations versus, you know, some that we might just want to leave exclusively to
01:06:05.540the state? That's a great question, Corey. We've seen P3s work in Canada and in Alberta on big
01:06:13.260ticket infrastructure. And the reason we go to those like the 407 in Ontario, the bridge into
01:06:21.200pei big projects the reason we often go to p3s is because it's at times when the private sector
01:06:30.000can access capital out of you know who can get access to capital in a more effective way and so
01:06:36.400that's the kind of thing we're looking at mixing that up the other time we see p3s and i think
01:06:42.320we're going to see it more and more is when you've got political risk so the trans mountain pipeline
01:06:47.360expansion uh you know that was a private sector project and now it's it's what would arguably be
01:06:54.160called a p3 in it's a cloud it will be a collaboration and the reason is because
01:07:00.720the private sector couldn't bear the political risk so there's different reasons for it
01:07:06.320those are big big big infrastructure projects i guess what i am also advocating for in this
01:07:13.280new book of mine is it let's be smarter um again health care services education services um what
01:07:23.600if we brought more private sector thinking non-profit thinking into some of these we're
01:07:30.160seeing unroll i mean when you look at um what's happening with post-secondary education in the us
01:07:36.240i mean we could watch some of what they're doing and maybe leapfrog some of their problems but
01:07:42.240But we've got, we're spending a lot of money on models that are not as fresh and as current or as effective or as resilient as they could be.
01:07:52.800And I think there's space for the service sector as well.
01:07:58.480And I know there are people who are going to be pulling their hair out to hear that.
01:08:02.380But we're just I mean, like when when the premier of Quebec came out and said, you know, I'll never deny people in Quebec access to health care, but you're going to pay a premium if you don't take precautions.
01:08:17.740That's that's a hint of where we're going. I mean, we spend a lot of our money, public money on health care.
01:08:25.200the possibilities of what we can spend money on in health care are endless they just keep
01:08:31.760getting better and better and better we're doing a better job at that so how are we going to manage
01:08:37.320that I don't have the answer but I sure think it's something that we start we need to start
01:08:42.420talking about what's in what's out who does what who does it better and I think these questions
01:08:48.580about you know outsourcing the cafeteria and outsourcing the laundry these are really tip
01:08:54.720the iceberg things i i think it's more of the things like med tech med tech and entrepreneurship
01:09:01.520um the guys down in waterloo are you know they're ready to go with med tech the problem is it's and
01:09:08.400we find the same thing in alberta it's really hard to commercialize this stuff in our own country it
01:09:15.440goes to the states and then it's gone so how do we make that all work do we do procurement where
01:09:21.600the public sector says hey i'm gonna procure from these places in canada these guys doing
01:09:28.480entrepreneurial work in med tech space i just i think we've got to get smarter so it's i think
01:09:35.760the possibilities are endless here corey um but we can't do it unless we figure out better ways to
01:09:42.720build trust in those systems and so we're not constantly going well i don't like the idea of
01:09:48.160that person having my money and I don't either. And feeling confident that we're spending our
01:09:53.840money the best way possible to get the best outcomes. Well, that's it. They're getting
01:09:58.800our money one way or another. So, I mean, the bottom line is we just want to make sure it's
01:10:02.480getting the best possible use. And I appreciate the approach of saying it isn't just all one or
01:10:07.120all the others, as much as we seem to like taking our, setting up our teams, our camps,
01:10:11.040and then we blind ourselves to alternatives, you know, and creativity. So I appreciate your
01:10:16.720examining that so uh maybe if before you go if you let us know when your book's coming out and
01:10:21.520uh where to find more information on your blog and other activities thank you very much corey
01:10:26.880the book's coming out i actually expect hard copies uh to be delivered um very very shortly
01:10:33.200it's called teaching the dinosaur to dance yeah that's a tutu and i've got a website at
01:10:39.760teachingthedinosaur.com i also have been blogging for four years with a colleague in edmonton
01:10:46.160Don Hill at beyondpolarity.blog. It's very controversial. It's very loud and noisy.
01:10:53.280You know something about that, Corey, here at Western Standard.
01:10:56.160Oh, I thrive on loud and noisy. Yes. Okay. Well, thank you.
01:11:01.040Thank you for joining us. And I hope we can talk again soon. Perhaps after your book comes out,
01:11:04.640we'll get a deeper dive into that. So I appreciate you joining us. Great. We'll talk again later.
01:11:11.280Thanks. So there we go, Donna Kennedy-Glans, look it up. And you know, very valid points.
01:11:18.140As I said, I brought up the example of going to a town hall meeting and just people were even
01:11:22.160discussing having a private ambulance in town. And some people just got immediately, their backs
01:11:27.120were up. It is just not on the table. It's not to be discussed. Maybe a private ambulance is a bad
01:11:31.380idea. I don't know. But when you close the door to even talking about it, you're losing a potential
01:11:36.520solution to an issue or a problem that you didn't have to. You got to look at the whole thing.
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01:13:50.840Chinese subs and American subs and Soviet subs.
01:13:53.680They're all under that ice underneath us.
01:13:55.400And the country that claims sovereignty over the area where I work in the country I'm supposedly in can't get there that we don't have nuclear subs. You can't go under the ice with a diesel submarine. It's suicide. But a nuclear submarine can get up there. And you know, they're playing games under the ice up there. And we could be challenged for our sovereignty. I mean, we had the little battle with I believe it was Denmark putting a flag on a Canadian island in the Arctic. We don't have the icebreakers. We don't have the means to get up there. We're not protecting our own country. And you know who's on the other side of the Arctic? Russia.
01:14:25.400So what if Putin decides after he's done with Ukraine, he wants to come down and take a chunk
01:14:30.900of Canada's Arctic? One of the things to talk about whether a country has claim over land or