00:01:23.860I trade in anger, but I like to hope that it leads to good solutions to policy issues later
00:01:31.860on as well. That's why I get guests to break it up, so I'm not ranting for a solid hour and a half.
00:01:36.060Either way, I've got a good show lined up for today, of course, and a couple of good guests
00:01:39.980as always. So let's talk about the observations. Those things are important as we're getting ready
00:01:45.860for the weekend here. It is International Chicken Wing Day. Yeah, this is the day you celebrate
00:01:51.320those chicken wings that uh you know traditional bar food it was a football food this was um
00:01:58.600uh you know if you look at the history of it it's pretty interesting i owned a bar and oh my god
00:02:02.600it took me a couple of years you know i mean i'm just starting now to be able to enjoy chicken
00:02:06.280wings again because i made and sold so many uh orders of it but i mean in buffalo that's where
00:02:12.200it did all start with the buffalo hot sauce was one little bar and a woman who thought what are
00:02:16.200we going to do with these leftover old wings because we're cutting them off the birds and
00:02:19.320they were a waste product and now man they're expensive either way and they also now rent a
00:02:23.880whole day or rank a whole day to be observed and enjoyed and appreciated so hey before you get
00:02:29.400ready for the weekend have some chicken wings it's also national talk in an elevator day
00:02:35.640so if you're like us uh we're downtown in an office tower i've got a ride in elevator i got
00:02:40.520to spend time in close proximity with people this is the time you're supposed to look over that
00:02:45.720person you see at the same time the same day every day at the start and at lunchtime and going down
00:02:51.080the elevator just reach over well not reach over look over and start talking to you reach over to
00:02:56.520them you might get a lot of trouble and this is not to be mistaken for fart in an elevator day
00:03:01.480which actually that one can be observed anytime you like but it may not make you popular with
00:03:05.640others see it is a good way to get an elevator to yourself though you build a reputation you
00:03:08.680get down to that bottom floor and you're waiting for elevators and suddenly people have other
00:03:11.480things to do before they get in. All right. I'm going to have a first guest a little later,
00:03:16.300retired Justice Brian Geisbrecht on. He's been on before and I'm just staying on that issue. I mean,
00:03:21.860we've had the Pope touring and apologizing and, you know, everything going on. Of course,
00:03:26.740it's never enough, but all over the residential school issue and Justice, you know, former Justice
00:03:31.720Geisbrecht has been very, of course, involved in this issue and involved in the law. And
00:03:36.220we're going to be talking about, you know, when are we going to get an RCMP investigation
00:03:41.600into these apparent buried bodies all over in these schools? When's it going to happen? Why
00:03:46.300haven't they? I mean, we've had a crime, apparently, but there's no investigation.
00:03:49.780So we'll chat about that. And then I'm going to speak to Barry Moore, and he started an app called
00:03:54.780Flashcard Democracy. He's trying to build a new way of polling, basically, whether it's issue
00:03:59.980polling, political polling, things like that. He's trying sort of an innovation. He's concerned that
00:04:04.340People are not necessarily informed if they respond to polls, so this is a way to kind of make sure a person realizes what they're answering to.
00:04:11.280So we'll have a conversation with Sam and see what that's about.
00:04:13.980Because polls are big, and they do influence us, whether we like it or not.
00:04:18.320And, you know, the more accurate they are, the better it is for all of us.
00:04:21.940All right, let's see what's got me going.
00:04:25.080I mean, modern environmentalists have become a cult of Luddites, opposed to every development made to make life more comfortable for human beings.
00:13:31.960There are lots of good stuff up there.
00:13:33.360We got a B.C. Mountie who was a dog handler, so he was able to take his police car home with him, got absolutely hammered and drove drunk and passed out at a B.C. Burger King where he was discovered a poor Burger King employee couldn't wake him and called the authorities after about 20 minutes.
00:26:25.320with an extremism over on that with racism.
00:26:29.800And otherwise we get environmentalists,
00:26:31.480other people, they've got some sort of personal void
00:26:33.200and they filled it with environmentalism.
00:26:35.560and uh it's uh no it's not serving us well uh what is it Ashley Ellis saying Idiocracy a good
00:26:42.360movie yeah uh actually Idiocracy was kind of a crappy movie but the concept was fantastic and
00:26:47.220it's got a few good chuckles in it and if you haven't seen that one uh what Ashley's referring
00:26:52.680to it's a movie that goes and the opening sequence I think was the best part of it all because it
00:26:56.760showed you basically uh you know I won't give it all away but the dumber couples are the more
00:27:02.420likely they are to breed a lot. You know, the morons who live in the trailers and aren't terribly
00:27:09.720bright and aren't terribly self-sustaining, the one thing they can figure out is how to reproduce
00:27:13.620and they are doing so plentifully, whilst the more responsible people and forward-thinking
00:27:20.440people and educated people tend to hold off and sit back and wait. So, of course, when you get
00:27:25.440generations happening like this, guess what happens? The stupid end up overwhelming the
00:27:30.960intelligent in population growth. I mean, that's natural selection, right? It used to be that a lot
00:27:35.680more people died of stupidity. I mean, they still die of stupidity. The internet gives us examples
00:27:39.520every day where we could see that. Lots of comical deaths by idiocy, but not nearly as much as it
00:27:46.200used to. Now morons can very comfortably live thanks to social services and a safe society and
00:27:51.500things like that, all the way to the point of reproduction and start crapping out those kids0.94
00:27:55.760like nobody's business. And with any luck, they'll get a government job because they don't have to
00:27:59.920show any talent or hard work or intelligence there, and they can make it all the way to a
00:28:03.780pension. Meanwhile, they just keep breeding and breeding and breeding. So, you know, it used to
00:28:09.260be the reason intelligence went up was because the stupid died, the intelligent lived longer. Well,
00:28:13.180that's not happening anymore. Nothing's culling the herd effectively enough anyways.
00:28:19.400So, yeah, I don't try to insult anybody. I see Sarah Lynn Chris say, hey, I have six kids. That's
00:28:24.540not me. No, no, not every person who's had a number of children is necessarily an imbecile.
00:28:29.920But, you know, just getting to that point of it, if we were going to be evolving and getting brighter, you know, the basic tenets of evolution aren't happening right now.
00:28:39.500People aren't dying off from being stupid like they used to.
00:28:43.840I mean, there's always going to find an example of somebody who stuck their tongue into a light bulb socket and didn't make it to the point of reproduction.
01:00:58.300I mean, a large poll is a time commitment and people aren't necessarily going to be willing to do so altruistically as much as we wish they would.
01:01:11.060You have to take time and learn all the facts.
01:01:13.600You have to learn both sides of an issue and then do the poll.
01:01:17.840So it's not the same as just sitting down and doing a poll with your current knowledge.
01:01:21.880You need to learn, like, for example, for the Alberta Provincial Police Service, proposed Alberta Provincial Police Service poll, you have to study the pros and cons of the police force.
01:01:38.160How long will it take to transition to an Alberta police force?
01:01:41.440What's the minimum and the maximum cost that it's likely to, you know, to cost, according to Pricewater Coopers, who did the study for the Fair Deal panel?
01:01:51.600You have to know stuff before you do this poll.
01:01:53.440So that's why I would like to get to the point where people would get paid to do it.
01:02:00.020Yeah, well, and I just do like the principle, at least, of seeking information for the sake of getting accurate information.
01:02:06.040Part of the problem with commissioned polls, and it does happen.
01:02:08.680I mean, if we see a poll commissioned by a tobacco company on the harms of tobacco, surprisingly, it's going to come out saying tobacco is not terribly harmful.
01:02:16.960You know, and likewise, a poll commissioned, at least a public poll commissioned by a political party will often just have ways of leading or, you know, targeting demographics.
01:02:27.040So it's going to sound a lot better for themselves. But there's a lot of people who want real and accurate information.
01:02:32.800I mean, political parties like doing internal polls, which, you know, they keep to themselves, but they want accuracy because that models how they're going to go.
01:02:40.300So as a public service, I guess, having some data available through yours, it could, the information could be broadly used for a number of people on fronts.
01:02:51.620Exactly. Excuse me. I just had to make sure I plugged in. I didn't realize my battery was going down.
01:03:00.360But yeah, absolutely. I just wanted, if I could take a quick minute and just look at my notes and see if there's anything I've forgotten to mention. Is that okay?
01:07:45.660And, you know, I guess one thing to be said for Mr. Moore, it doesn't sound like he's got, you know, an agenda, whether money making or politically, he's just trying to put together a system where people vote.
01:07:57.380I mean, if somebody phoned me up with a pollster and they were asking questions about, I don't know, advanced microbiology in the north, and I just started pushing the touchtone and voting on things in it, I wouldn't be giving them a good result because I don't know what the hell I'm talking about.
01:08:11.380So his theory, I guess, is his plan is to have people have at least a baseline of informed
01:08:17.940knowledge before they choose how they're going to vote on it.
01:09:30.180If people weren't paying attention to the issues, if they weren't paying attention to policy stances, and they listened to this thing and suddenly thought they knew what they're talking about, oh, well, the head and inchie agrees with tax reduction, and he agrees with smaller government, and he agrees with supporting businesses.
01:09:47.400Well, he's definitely my candidate because I said all those things on there, and this phone just told me he's the best one, so I'll vote for him.
01:09:52.380very unprincipled way, not illegal, but unprincipled way of impacting voters using a poll.
01:10:01.800Push polls. Yeah, that's one way they can be used. Another thing with polling is, you know,
01:10:08.640you can astroturf. People sometimes move with the crowd. If you can have a poll that you set up
01:10:13.580with just a certain area, let's say I was running a campaign in a constituency and I knew that
01:10:19.280this 10 square block area had a certain demographic that was going to be really strongly in support of
01:10:25.000us. And I ran a poll just of that area and then showed, Hey, look at that. We got 80% support in
01:10:31.600this constituency because people in this constituency that we asked all 580% of them
01:10:38.100liked our candidate. And I released that and I put it out with the press. A lot of people,
01:10:42.100unfortunately they are sheep-like. It's like, uh, Barry was talking about people voting based on
01:10:45.780the roads, you know, the lawn signs they see up and down the street on candidates, that could help
01:10:50.420push them towards it. And I'm not recommending people do these things. I'm just talking about
01:10:54.460ways that polls get abused and some of the power that polls have. So you got to take a lot of them
01:11:01.060with grains of salt. Having ones we can trust, that's the hard part, you know, and we've got to
01:11:06.820look at where things are going. Scientifically controlled proper polls, they're hard, they're
01:11:11.100expensive, they're time consuming, they are not easy to do. You know, we've thrown a poll on the
01:11:15.300Western Standard website, that's just more of a novelty. I mean, it gives you a result, it gives
01:11:20.200you a feel, but it's a selective crowd. It's just an app that's on the website. It can be, you know,
01:11:25.220people can change IP numbers, I think, and, you know, vote multiple times. Or if I put a poll
01:11:30.940out on Twitter, I can get, you know, a thousand respondents on pretty much anything within an hour
01:11:37.360or two. But that only tells you what my Twitter followers think, not what people in general think.
01:11:42.100So that's not a very good, unless I'm curious about my own followers, it's really of limited