Western Standard - Triggered： How can the USA stop school shootings？

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00:00:30.000 Good morning. It's May 25th, 2022. Welcome to Triggered. I'm Corey Morgan. This is the

00:00:39.300 Western Standards Live Daily Show, Monday to Friday. Aside from holidays, we run from 1130

00:00:44.320 a.m. Western Mountain Standard Time. I like to think Western more, though, until about one

00:00:49.840 o'clock. Usually have a couple of guests on. And yes, I like to invite everybody seeing Claudette,

00:00:56.180 Knucklehead, Ellen all greeting us

00:00:58.160 there. Being live

00:01:00.040 let's interact guys, get those comments

00:01:02.020 going, tell us where you're from, tell us what

00:01:04.200 you're about. I won't necessarily read them all

00:01:06.340 you know, I read them all, I won't necessarily

00:01:08.280 bring them all up, but it helps keep that

00:01:10.280 dialogue going, makes this live format that much

00:01:12.300 more fluid and keep things going

00:01:14.120 as news break. And perhaps

00:01:16.020 you know, you can send some ideas towards the

00:01:18.240 guests

00:01:19.800 that I could put out for questions and answer

00:01:22.140 some of yours as well. Let's see

00:01:24.200 Debbie in Nova Scotia, I love it

00:01:26.120 in Ellen and Vancouver, you know, seeing people from across the country on this sort of thing.

00:01:29.640 It just helps to know we're reaching out to a lot of areas and helps broaden those discussions.

00:01:34.280 Keeps me from getting too Alberta-centric because we do a heck of a lot from out here

00:01:37.560 in the West as well. But we've got a lot of national issues on the national front for the

00:01:41.840 daily observances, the important things to watch. And it's been some pretty horrible news lately.

00:01:46.100 You know what? It could be a good day for some people who can anyways to tip back a glass of

00:01:50.980 wine and just try to reflect and think about things and relax a little bit. We got to carry

00:01:55.600 on and enjoy life a bit and it is national wine day that's the day to do it it's also national

00:02:01.900 towel day i don't know where they come up with this stuff but i look it up they have one every

00:02:05.420 day as we can see with the frog sitting there all toweled up it's important and uh at the rate that

00:02:10.420 the flames are going there might be some need for crying towels in the near future as the battle of

00:02:14.820 alberta seems to be fizzling out but we'll see it's not over yet but uh last night didn't look

00:02:22.000 terribly promising for the flames. We'll certainly say that. But at the end of this one way or another,

00:02:26.380 somebody's going to be crying. So make sure to remember it's National Towel Day. All right. I've

00:02:30.340 got a couple of good guests on today. As always, Michelle Sterling from Friends of Science. A lot

00:02:35.420 of our viewers are familiar with her. She's very outspoken with Friends of Science, covers a lot

00:02:40.380 of things out on social media and with their blog and site like that. We're going to talk about the

00:02:44.480 World Economic Forum. Oh, yeah. Everybody's favorite subject, everybody's favorite group

00:02:48.240 and their environmental plans, because they got a lot of them. And there's a lot of influential

00:02:54.340 political people attending their meeting talking about some pretty big things there and changes.

00:03:01.600 And also, I'm going to have our Western Standard columnist, Dave Makachuk, on. We're going to talk

00:03:05.560 about Tamara Leach, who they did find was allowed at least to stay out and not have her bail revoked

00:03:13.320 because she responded to an email, real generous.

00:03:18.220 Going after this one, they just will not lay off.

00:03:21.200 They really want to drive her to the ground.

00:03:22.880 So we're going to talk about that. 0.99

00:03:24.360 Can Uncle Head pointing out towel days

00:03:25.480 for Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Fans.

00:03:27.320 Ah, yes, the trilogy in four parts from Douglas.

00:03:30.200 I should have thought that that's where

00:03:31.280 that reference came from, of course.

00:03:32.880 And if you are going to travel the galaxy,

00:03:35.080 having a towel is one of your essential things.

00:03:37.540 What was it, Arthur Dent had to take with him

00:03:39.860 during his training.

00:03:40.940 for the people who haven't read that series. It is fantastic. It's a good read. All right. So I'll

00:03:45.400 get off the light note. You know, my opening monologue, it's not going to be as ranty as it

00:03:48.780 usually is. It's more just frustrated, dejected, you know, sad. I mean, we came in yesterday from

00:03:54.880 lunch and the news was breaking and it was horrible. Another mass shooting in the United

00:04:00.360 States in a school, in an elementary school. Everybody's seen the news on it now. And it's

00:04:04.740 just awful. Look, we can't deny it. We just can't deny it. The USA is being plagued by school

00:04:11.240 shootings in a way like no other country on earth. So, I mean, yesterday's slaughter, and that's what

00:04:15.780 it was, slaughter of 19 children and two adults, at least to date. It seems like every time I turn

00:04:20.840 on the TV, there's another one gone. It was the 27th American school shooting this year in the

00:04:27.980 United States, just this year. And nobody can look at those numbers and pretend there isn't a problem. 0.88

00:04:33.740 And I mean, think about this.

00:04:34.560 Despite even 21 people being killed, 19 of them children,

00:04:38.540 that shooting yesterday was still only the second most deadly of American school shootings.

00:04:45.360 So outside of schools, the USA has had 212 mass shootings just in 2022 alone.

00:04:52.060 These are shootings where four or more people are shot.

00:04:56.900 I mean, and there's been, what, 20-some school shootings this year,

00:05:01.300 just in the last six months, 27 of them. Something's wrong, guys. We can't deny this.

00:05:07.560 We can't look the other way. And there's no magic bullet. There's no simple solution. There's no

00:05:12.460 quick one. But the Americans need to seriously start seeking one. I mean, the post-shooting

00:05:18.580 knee-jerk reactions from politicos is already typical. You know, the fact that there's typical

00:05:23.820 reactions to these tragedies is indicative in itself, though, in how common they're becoming.

00:05:27.920 I mean, there's calls for outright bans of firearms. Those come immediately. And that's not realistic. And it's simplistic. But at the same time, there's room to look at things. There's room to talk about how free the access to firearms is. I mean, come on, we've got to start looking at stuff here. Something's wrong. Waiting periods, background checks, perhaps, because some Second Amendment people don't even think there should be a background check. So we've got to examine what's going on there.

00:05:53.300 I mean, those are far from foolproof, but they might start working towards mitigating some of

00:05:57.980 this carnage. Maybe those measures would be useless, but let's have a rational discussion.

00:06:02.080 That's what we have to have on this. And it's hard to be rational with something so emotional.

00:06:06.220 Left, right, or center. No society, no people ever want to see children murdered like that.

00:06:10.420 It's awful. I mean, there's some others are claiming that loosening the firearms laws up

00:06:15.020 would help with the notion that people openly carrying firearms would act as a preventative

00:06:18.880 measure. I'm not so bad on open carry, but I don't know if it would stop that. I can't see it.

00:06:23.300 Texas is an open carry state, and there aren't many examples to indicate it helped.

00:06:26.900 It certainly didn't yesterday.

00:06:28.720 Now we've got to look at some of the numbers.

00:06:30.380 I mean, the Americans have the most civilian guns per capita than any other country on the planet.

00:06:34.880 They have 120 guns for every 100 people.

00:06:37.400 They have more civilian firearms than actual civilians.

00:06:42.060 So the next closest country is the Falkland Islands with 62 per 100.

00:06:46.720 I mean, Americans have more than twice as much as the next country after that.

00:06:50.320 I mean, I'm not talking about moving towards disarming all citizens, but we've got to look at that. It's a contributing factor. Obviously, the number of people who have these firearms is contributing to this somehow. I mean, Canada, though, is among the top nations, actually, believe it or not, with firearms per capita at 13th, with 34.7 per 100. But that's still a quarter of the number that Americans have.

00:07:14.940 Now, is Canada experiencing a quarter of the mass shootings and school shootings, though?

00:07:20.400 No, not even close.

00:07:21.740 The Nova Scotia Rampage of 2020 demonstrated we're not immune to mass shootings.

00:07:25.760 But thankfully, certainly comparatively with the United States, we have far, far fewer of them,

00:07:30.760 even when factored in with the smaller population and the smaller amount of guns.

00:07:34.480 So it's not just a matter of large population.

00:07:37.140 It's not a matter of the large guns alone. 0.81

00:07:39.180 That means the shooting trans-south the border as some sort of cultural underpinnings.

00:07:43.960 That makes it all the more complex, but it makes it all the more important to study and try and understand what's causing all this.

00:07:48.640 It isn't happening in other countries. It isn't.

00:07:52.120 So we need to understand why.

00:07:54.700 These things didn't happen with such frequency in years gone by either.

00:07:57.600 I mean, there have been mass shootings since the invention of the gun, but they've been escalating.

00:08:01.840 In the 60s and 70s, it was common to see rifles in the back windows of pickup trucks in school parking lots in both Canada and the USA, or at least in smaller towns.

00:08:09.660 There was no rash of shootings due to that.

00:08:11.700 So what changed? What happened? I have more questions today than answers. You know, usually I'm full of answers. I'm full of opinion. I'm full of thoughts. I still have a lot of that in me. But with this issue, I don't have the answers, but I've got a lot of questions. We've got to start asking these questions right now. The only thing I can say conclusively, though, is that things have to change. We have to admit there's a problem, or at least the Americans do. I understand. We are related to the states, and we have a lot of friends and family down there.

00:08:37.040 Many reactions over the next few days are going to be heated and without thought.

00:08:40.620 But when things cool down, let's hope a serious discussion on this issue begins.

00:08:45.140 I love my American neighbors.

00:08:46.360 I just returned from a visit south of the border last Monday.

00:08:49.300 I know Americans aren't some bunch of violent thugs who shrug off the murder of their children.

00:08:54.120 Their nation is mourning the senseless deaths of 19 children right now,

00:08:57.860 and I'm mourning the waste of those young lives from afar.

00:09:01.000 We have to look away for a change, and it's hard for us, especially as political types.

00:09:04.960 So we've got to look away from the political and ideological lines we've drawn in the sand and look to real solutions to this terrible and growing problem with mass shootings in the USA.

00:09:14.340 It's real.

00:09:15.800 Until activists and politicians are capable, though, of setting aside that ideology and drawing those lines, I fear we're going to be seeing more shootings in the years to come.

00:09:23.760 So let's look at this, look at it carefully, guys, and try to have a rational conversation.

00:09:32.120 That's just where I'm sitting on that one.

00:09:33.580 I just, I don't know what else I can say about it, but we've got to stop this. It's just horrible

00:09:39.160 to keep you holding. I don't want to keep turning on the news and seeing more of these. So set aside

00:09:44.300 the politics and start thinking about things, folks. And, you know, Donna saying, have a cop

00:09:49.680 in each school. Well, why don't we have a cop in each classroom? Why don't we have a cop in each

00:09:52.860 parent's car? We got to be reasonable to the extent, but I understand it's a potential solution,

00:09:57.940 more security, but having more security isn't getting to the basis of the problem. The problem

00:10:03.200 is that there's people picking up guns that want to slaughter children. We've got to get to the

00:10:07.600 root because they're still going to be there. They're still going to be looking. You can't

00:10:12.020 protect everything all the time. But again, I don't want to knock Donna for putting out a

00:10:15.760 suggestion because that's what we need is suggestions. We need discussion. We need to look

00:10:18.940 at this and find out what happened. And not just yesterday, but over and over 27 times in six

00:10:24.940 months in schools, people. Like this is beyond the pale. And I just don't want to see it anymore.

00:10:31.000 So let's hope we finally just start to learn from this.

00:10:33.640 All right, let's get on to some more news with our news editor, Dave Naylor, and bring him in.

00:10:37.380 There's some other things going on.

00:10:39.100 Hey, Dave, how's it going?

00:10:40.220 It's going okay, Corey.

00:10:41.600 Just a terrible story, isn't it?

00:10:43.960 Our Mel Rizdin is working on a piece right now.

00:10:46.860 All those dead children were in one classroom. 0.99

00:10:50.000 This bastard barricaded himself into a classroom and then killed every one of those kids one by one. 0.99

00:10:57.340 I just can't imagine the horror and the terror that they felt. 1.00

00:11:02.180 It's unbelievable.

00:11:04.800 Yeah, you're right.

00:11:05.680 Let's hope they come up with a solution.

00:11:07.380 But these things have happened before, and there's been no solution.

00:11:11.320 So I am not sure there will be one on this time.

00:11:15.900 Our Linda Slobodian has filed a column on it already.

00:11:19.660 She's taking President Biden to task over his emotional speech last night.

00:11:25.500 Linda says it was just a case of him politicizing it and not going to the root of the problems.

00:11:31.580 We've got another story up there on the federal conservatives are calling for an investigation into the liberal labor minister, trade minister.

00:11:40.960 She gave a $17,000 contract to one of her good friends during the COVID vaccination or during the COVID pandemic, excuse me.

00:11:50.580 And the conservatives are saying that's not quite right.

00:11:54.800 our mail resident before the shooting story just got back from a canadian taxpayers federation

00:12:01.680 press conference where they handed out the uh the annual teddy awards these are awards

00:12:07.360 politicians do not want to get because it highlights wasteful spending of taxpayers

00:12:12.480 money and there's some pretty egregious cases uh this year for people to read about uh cory

00:12:18.000 Interesting case in Quebec, a guy in Montreal who bought a Chevy Bolt says the performance of the electric vehicle in winter was a debacle.

00:12:30.680 And he's trying to find or trying to get a class action lawsuit certified to try and get his $38,000 back.

00:12:37.940 He paid for an electric vehicle that didn't work well in the Canadian winters. 0.95

00:12:42.080 And as you mentioned, Tamara Litch does not have to worry about going back to jail for the time being.

00:12:48.920 The judge has said she can stay out on bail and even go to Ontario to accept that award from the Justice Centre.

00:12:57.420 So those are the main highlights, Corey.

00:13:01.560 Got to admit, I'm a bit worried that this will be the sort of the second last day of the playoff beard, though.

00:13:07.060 Not at all confident the Flames can get a victory on Thursday.

00:13:10.680 We will see.

00:13:11.420 I see, as one of the commenters pointed out, though, you can get back.

00:13:14.620 He called you the chickadee magnet, and you can focus on the bigger issue of your aggravation

00:13:19.340 being your morning chickadee waking you up.

00:13:21.940 That is a good point.

00:13:23.080 Thanks to the viewer for that.

00:13:24.180 I'd almost forgotten about that.

00:13:26.240 Since the Battle of Alberta began, you forgot about your chickadee, so you'll have to get

00:13:29.940 back to it. 0.99

00:13:30.760 I will concentrate on getting that little bugger. 0.98

00:13:33.060 All right. 0.98

00:13:34.120 All right.

00:13:34.760 Well, thanks for checking in, Dave, and we'll see if it's one of the last times of that

00:13:38.420 fabulous beard you've been growing there.

00:13:40.740 Thanks, man.

00:13:41.580 Great, thanks.

00:13:42.840 So I see a couple of comments, you know, and again, see, I don't want to dismiss any.

00:13:47.280 There's something I got to watch just because I disagree with some of the solutions people are pointing out with what I was talking about before.

00:13:52.080 Well, no, that's what I've got to stop doing, too.

00:13:54.160 We need to examine everything and try and find out because I don't think there is any one factor on what's going on.

00:13:59.380 You're just getting back to my opening there.

00:14:01.520 I don't think there's any simple thing.

00:14:03.160 So we've got to look at everything.

00:14:04.440 We've got to take every suggestion seriously.

00:14:06.120 You know, Wendy pointing out, is it the video games out there?

00:14:07.920 And I don't think you could point at that as a sole problem.

00:14:11.560 I mean, the kids in Canada and Europe have the same ones, and we have a lot of firearms

00:14:14.500 here, and we still aren't seeing that sort of thing.

00:14:17.200 But that could be a contributing factor.

00:14:19.000 I mean, they sensationalize and desensitize some people to the thought of pulling triggers

00:14:24.700 and running around.

00:14:25.540 I mean, for people who are mentally ill, and as others have pointed out, Jeannie Nielsen

00:14:30.340 saying, you know, we need to focus on mental health.

00:14:31.920 Absolutely.

00:14:32.860 Nobody who would do that doesn't have mental health issues.

00:14:36.720 Because nobody sane goes out and murders their fellow people, particularly children.

00:14:39.940 So we have to look at that.

00:14:41.380 And we can't dismiss what anybody else is pointing out.

00:14:43.940 As I said, you know, with somebody pointing out having security in schools,

00:14:46.820 and I kind of dismissed that initially.

00:14:48.080 And I shouldn't have.

00:14:48.680 No, that's one other element.

00:14:49.900 That's one other aspect.

00:14:50.820 If we really want to prevent, we need to open the dialogue,

00:14:54.140 set aside our existing political biases,

00:14:56.920 and try and see how we can get to a solution.

00:14:59.440 Some proposed solutions will be wrong.

00:15:01.240 Some will be right.

00:15:03.180 And if we don't have the discussion, we won't find them for sure.

00:15:05.840 That's the main thing.

00:15:06.660 Because I don't want to see that on the TV anymore, or at least not nearly as much as we have.

00:15:12.640 It's just horrible.

00:15:14.400 All right, let's talk about some of the stuff in the news.

00:15:16.560 We've got our guest in the lobby.

00:15:17.600 We'll get to her pretty soon.

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00:16:29.200 we've got, the Battle of Alberta. You know, that is a big one going on. The flames really looked

00:16:35.400 pretty gnarly last night, guys. You know, it's funny because one of the things that is a good

00:16:39.480 news story, or it was, is you've seen people out celebrating things and enjoying themselves,

00:16:43.540 talking about mental health. In general, stresses, things on people, you know, we need to smile more,

00:16:48.200 we need to get out more, we need to socialize more. How many of the symptoms of some of this

00:16:52.040 antisocial or horrible stuff? Again, you know, there's dozens of contributing factors to all

00:16:56.520 sorts of things. But I think we're seeing some consequences also of two years of misery, two

00:17:00.780 years of hiding our faces from each other with masks, two years of separating each other from

00:17:05.620 our families and friends, cracking down on people from doing business, from interacting in schools

00:17:11.280 in the first place, the closures of schools constantly, the homeschooling. We've got a whole

00:17:16.360 lot of things to work on. We're doing great with modern technology and moving ahead, but we're

00:17:21.760 forgetting a lot of things too. And we're becoming a lot more introverted as we can sit at home and

00:17:25.400 Zoom meetings to do our line of work or work from home, communicate from there. Getting out,

00:17:31.520 seeing packed stadiums, even in Edmonton, packed arenas and groups and crowds. That's something I

00:17:37.260 do like seeing. It makes me, you know, let's look at some things that make us happy. Let's look at

00:17:41.520 some good things, things that are good for each other. And sports, you know, don't underestimate

00:17:46.180 how important they are getting people together and socializing and having friendly competitive

00:17:50.800 activities, you know, even with some body checks and elbows in the corners now and then.

00:17:55.400 is good for us. And we're seeing it again. We're not looking at fake cardboard cutouts of fans.

00:17:59.800 World's getting a little closer to normal. Unfortunately, not every bit of normal is

00:18:03.700 necessarily good. Okay, so the other part before I get to Ms. Sterling is going to be reminding you

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00:19:08.120 All right, let's bring in Michelle Sterling and talk about something else that gets the vein in my head pulsing, and that's the World Economic Forum and their plans for us under the guise of environmental stewardship.

00:19:17.560 How's it going, Michelle?

00:19:18.300 very well thank you thanks for having me on the show yeah it gets my blood pumping too it's always

00:19:25.260 good to have you back on and boy they you know that's one of the things with these annual meetings

00:19:29.140 is they sure give us a lot of fodder to work with don't they yeah and uh you know curiously people

00:19:35.060 probably don't know this but the world economic forum did a report in 2006 called uh global risk

00:19:41.320 and two of the global risks that they cited was global oil price shock and pandemic but by 2020

00:19:50.100 they'd moved those completely off the list and replaced it all with climate change so you have

00:19:55.500 to wonder if people have actually manipulated the situation so they're cashing in on it right now

00:20:01.080 yeah there's a lot of uh interests in there i mean i it's it's hard to explain and discuss what

00:20:07.380 that group is you know it's the world's elites they're gathered their business elites their

00:20:11.340 political elites and it's the i had a bunch of people get upset over a tweet where i pointed

00:20:15.880 out that they want centralized government but with socialism and say it's not socialism there's

00:20:19.200 going to be a bunch of rich people up top well actually if you look at most examples of socialism

00:20:23.520 that is how it works out despite what they say so i think it's a classic thing but so the

00:20:28.520 environment has been a big theme you know this year i mean what i found crazy is a lot of them

00:20:33.000 are talking, of course, they're still talking about strangling oil and gas while everybody's

00:20:37.960 in the midst of an energy crisis. Yeah, it's ludicrous. There was a, what is it? Christiane,

00:20:44.300 what's her name? I sent it to you the other day. Norway or? Yeah, the woman from Norway.

00:20:50.180 She was saying that, there it is, Norwegian finance CEO Kirsten Braithen was saying that

00:20:59.820 the energy transition will create energy shortages and inflationary pressures, but the pain is worth

00:21:06.160 it. I don't think you can find anybody out there who's enjoying paying all the extra prices and

00:21:13.360 especially in the UK and Europe where, you know, power prices and heating prices are just going

00:21:20.220 through the roof and it's also causing food shortages, not just the war, just the fact that

00:21:26.240 natural gas prices have skyrocketed, it means a lot of food processing can't be done because

00:21:31.560 ironically, there's carbon dioxide as a byproduct, which is used for food processing. And a lot

00:21:37.860 of the natural gas processors just can't operate anymore. It's not profitable. So what pain is

00:21:46.980 worth that? And in fact, as I was just pointing out to someone earlier, so far, we haven't seen

00:21:52.540 one wind turbine or one solar panel produced by wind or solar power. Until that happens,

00:21:58.620 we better not rely on that as our future. Yeah, and saying that the pain is worth it,

00:22:04.700 I see that as almost a vulgarity. It's easy for them to say, again, when you're an elite,

00:22:08.820 you're not dealing with figuring out how to pay your rent. You're actually globetrotting,

00:22:12.540 staying in luxury hotels to tell everyone else to tighten their belt. It brings to mind David

00:22:17.080 Suzuki with his multiple houses, you know, going around telling everybody else that the pain is

00:22:22.520 worth it to shut everything else down. The hypocrisy is galling. And I know most people 0.96

00:22:27.180 see through it, but they got to understand that this is a, these are people who influence our

00:22:33.220 world leaders. Yeah, they're tremendously influential. And, you know, I don't think

00:22:38.760 that people actually know, but Klintel, the climate intelligence group out of the Netherlands,

00:22:45.160 which has over a thousand signatories who say there's no climate emergency and they're all

00:22:50.920 scientists and scholars. They sent a letter to the Swiss government asking them, how could the

00:22:57.560 World Economic Forum have been granted host state status? So this is like giving them status

00:23:04.240 equivalent to, say, the Red Cross, as if they're doing something great for the world. How could

00:23:09.900 they have been granted status when they were the people who gave Greta Thunberg a stage to make her

00:23:16.300 scary monologue to the world I want you to panic I want you to feel the fear I feel every day and

00:23:21.720 yet in April 2021 when she testified to the U.S. Congress she said oh I don't literally want anyone

00:23:28.440 to panic I was just that's just a metaphor well you know so this group of influential business

00:23:36.400 people who are all engaged in carbon markets and renewables and want to go green and climate

00:23:41.740 initiatives used this young woman to scare millions of children and people around the

00:23:48.700 world. And yet in their own mission statement, they claim that moral and intellectual integrity

00:23:54.160 is at the heart of everything the WEF does. And we are an organization accountable to all parts

00:24:02.140 of society. Well, let's see some accountability. Let's see some accountability for the tweets that

00:24:08.160 they were putting out during lockdown saying lockdowns are improving the world yeah this

00:24:13.980 video I don't know if people remember where they had like a single individual on a skateboard

00:24:20.580 skateboarding through this gutted empty city like people were kidding committing suicide

00:24:27.600 businesses were going bankrupt people were losing their houses fentanyl overdoses were over the top

00:24:35.220 And this group of elites think that lockdowns are improving cities and they want to do more lockdowns.

00:24:41.920 They have another tweet out there.

00:24:43.540 They want to do more.

00:24:46.400 And so, you know, they're a very dangerous group of people. 0.99

00:24:50.680 And because they're transnational, they're unelected, they're unaccountable. 0.86

00:24:54.720 You know, how do you do anything to them, especially when they have this diplomatic immunity in Switzerland?

00:25:02.260 Yeah, I mean, it was just gross.

00:25:05.220 That picture, as you were speaking of that image of the empty freeways and such, and trying to say this is a good thing.

00:25:12.180 This is something to aspire to.

00:25:13.760 We want to become some sort of impoverished, introverted society where everybody is locked in their homes, living in poverty, because that'll theoretically, and there's the big theory, save Mother Earth.

00:25:25.880 This is the only, if anything, it should backfire.

00:25:28.260 It should make people realize this is how bad it would have to get before we even started to reduce, to get towards those crazy climate targets that are always set for us.

00:25:37.900 Yeah, well, it's very dangerous ideology.

00:25:40.680 You have to remember also there was a report that came out in the fall of 2019 called Exponential Roadmap.

00:25:47.080 And this was done by very influential NGOs like World Wild Fund and a whole assortment of these guys.

00:25:53.880 But they wanted to cut emissions in half by 2030. And most of the things that they proposed actually were met by lockdowns. So I find that a very suspicious connection. Call me a conspiracy theorist. I don't care. Read the report yourself. Exponential roadmap.

00:26:12.060 And you'll see that the things they proposed were things like everyone work from home, no going to doctor's meetings, no going to school, you know, because this cuts transportation emissions.

00:26:25.240 And of course, for the billionaires associated with World Economic Forum, most of them in high tech, this was fantastic for them.

00:26:33.380 they capitalized on it they made bank while other people suffered and especially things like fintech

00:26:40.960 which you know financial uh financial technical uh startups they'd been kind of a nothing business

00:26:48.860 for oh five years or something just laying there in the corner not really doing anything

00:26:54.500 boom lockdown they i think their stocks went up like 300 percent so you know and all these

00:27:01.440 wf billionaires were early investors you know just waiting for the opportunity for this take

00:27:08.620 off so you know and people can read a lot more about these guys you know there's the uh fourth

00:27:15.120 industrial revolution that's one book um and the uh davos man which is a new one i haven't gone

00:27:25.160 through this yet but i started it and it's the same shocking stuff about these elites as you

00:27:31.260 say, people who they really don't care about you and me. We're just useless eaters. Yeah, well, 0.99

00:27:37.120 that's about it. And I mean, something I think that's good, though, I mean, because the World

00:27:40.560 Economic Forum has been around a long, long time, they've been holding these meetings for a long

00:27:44.960 time. And nobody's really paid much attention to them or realize the amount of influence they have.

00:27:49.740 And now that the world is kind of paying attention to commoners, us unwashed, and realizing what the

00:27:56.140 agenda of at least the people leading it, I mean, there's a lot of misconceptions to people seem to

00:28:00.620 I think just because somebody attended it doesn't mean they've embraced every aspect of what the leaders were saying at their speeches or things like that.

00:28:08.120 But, I mean, they don't hide their agenda whatsoever, the organization itself or Mr. Schwab.

00:28:12.880 I mean, it's been in the open for quite some time and people are suddenly realizing that.

00:28:18.100 Yes. Well, we have about three or four different videos.

00:28:21.680 One is called The Great Reset, in their own words, a Ponzi scheme.

00:28:27.040 These are all on our YouTube channel.

00:28:28.780 We were also very concerned after the Davos 2020 meeting because of the depopulation talk there.

00:28:35.380 They featured Jane Goodall, who was saying, you know, we wouldn't have any climate change problems if the population of the earth was only 500 million.

00:28:43.100 So you can take your own assumptions from that.

00:28:46.820 And unfortunately, in the world of climate change, people have been using this RCP 8.5.

00:28:54.460 people have been referring to this set of scenarios and they the ones that the catastrophic

00:29:10.980 claims come from using this scenario which is deemed to be implausible but these other scenarios

00:29:18.420 have 3 billion fewer people in them. So in one that we did with Clintel, where they sent a

00:29:25.480 message to the World Economic Forum on Climate Change, we tried to make that clear that, you

00:29:31.340 know, hopefully no one has decided, wow, there's a climate emergency, let's get rid of 3 billion

00:29:36.900 people. But you can see how, you know, devious minds might come up with that. And I mean, the

00:29:44.500 unintended consequences of lockdown will be hundreds of thousands, millions of people who

00:29:52.120 die prematurely, who suffer in great pain. And we have already seen that many people took their

00:29:59.100 lives. So, you know, that is a depopulation program right there. Well, and whether it's

00:30:07.280 intentional or not intentional, I imagine for some of the crazed ideologues, and they exist,

00:30:11.040 there's an anti-humanity type of ideologue out there. And a lot of them are in the environmental

00:30:15.560 circles. They think that anything humans do is evil. And we should just basically get rid of

00:30:20.200 people. They're self-loathing. It's a real problem. As far as I'm concerned, they need help,

00:30:25.580 but they get into positions of influence. But now the other thing we're looking at is,

00:30:30.580 and again, not all of them necessarily are supporting it, but we've got a world food

00:30:35.260 supply crisis coming down the pipe. And it's funny because we were warning, you and I were

00:30:39.100 on the show talking about the energy crisis back last summer. You know, saying, hey, Europe is up

00:30:43.840 the creek. They're in big trouble. We got problems coming. And it wasn't heated. And now, you know,

00:30:49.320 due to with the Russia-Ukraine conflict on top of that, it's just become all the more acute.

00:30:54.200 But now we can see it. Anybody looking at economics, anybody looking at supply chains,

00:30:57.800 anybody looking at the regions where the war is, we got a really big food crisis coming. And they're

00:31:02.940 not talking about that at the World Economic Forum. They're worried about reducing our carbon

00:31:06.400 footprint right and uh you know they're they're definitely not interested in helping people say

00:31:14.000 in uh egypt and and africa where they get most of their wheat from the ukraine so you know that uh

00:31:24.080 that material can't be shipped now it's locked in port at the moment and i just saw a video about

00:31:29.040 it and uh you know that we're not talking about part of their food coming from there we're talking

00:31:34.800 about like 80 percent to some of these countries and without that people will die on mass and

00:31:42.560 the video i just saw was also talking about how in 2007 2008 there were you know there was the

00:31:49.680 arab spring and most people said oh that's you know because egypt wants to be democratic well

00:31:54.880 it's because that part of the world was suffering food shortages and food price hikes and there's a

00:32:00.640 a group of people called New England Complex Systems Institute, and they did a study showing

00:32:06.860 that as food prices rise, civil unrest rises, and they could actually predict where in the world

00:32:12.760 the next civil unrest would be based on their complex system analysis.

00:32:20.120 Yeah, I mean, look at Somalia or anywhere in North Africa, and I can't presume on your date

00:32:26.340 of birth by any means, but I'm old enough to remember the famines of the 80s and the early

00:32:30.320 90s. It was terrible. North Africa was in Ethiopia. It was awful to see what was happening.

00:32:36.280 And the thing that the reason we don't see it today is good modern, I mean, it didn't suddenly

00:32:40.920 turn into good growing areas in Ethiopia and Somalia, and the populations didn't go down.

00:32:45.980 But due to modern energy, modern transportation and supply chains, as you said, we've been able

00:32:50.260 to bring in wheat and products from Ukraine and such down there to feed people. And that's not

00:32:55.460 going to be coming down this year we're going to see some serious problems yeah yeah it's

00:33:00.780 catastrophic it's uh criminal and as you say these guys at the world economic forum that should be

00:33:07.320 if they are in fact accountable to all parts of society if they are in fact doing things with

00:33:13.140 morality and integrity at the center of everything they do then this should be the first thing on

00:33:18.580 their agenda and it actually it might even be a climate war between ukraine and russia despite

00:33:24.820 the other things that have been said but um uh you know the world economic forum wants a global

00:33:31.300 price on carbon by 2030 and russia has never ever bought into that ideology of climate change we

00:33:37.380 have on our website their rebuttal to the kyoto protocol from 2004 and they called climate change

00:33:43.780 ideology a threat to human civilization and i guess we're seeing that right now absolutely and

00:33:51.140 I mean, Russia didn't take the BS and that's part of why they became an energy powerhouse

00:33:55.240 because they weren't shackling themselves and they could provide products in volumes

00:34:00.000 that the world demanded.

00:34:01.020 And then suddenly, oh, we're beholden to them.

00:34:03.240 And something else that was interesting, listening to them talk about their great transition.

00:34:07.620 And I heard a speech, I can't remember who was talking about it, but we're going to need

00:34:10.740 cobalt and we're going to need lithium and everything.

00:34:13.700 Well, even if you go that way, now you're still going to have some small single source

00:34:17.960 areas that you're reliant on for your energy and and you're going to be vulnerable to energy crisis

00:34:24.120 if there's any disruptions yeah yeah you have to have a mix and actually you know there's uh

00:34:29.320 fairly substantial evidence that russia was funding most of the environmental groups to get

00:34:35.240 germany to not uh keep their nuclear plants online to uh you know not keep their coal plants open to

00:34:43.240 uh continue to buy russian oil and gas and uh you know and sadly i mean i think samuel ferfari

00:34:50.840 who's a professor emeritus of belgian university um and an energy director general for the eu for

00:35:01.000 36 years you know he wrote quite a thoughtful article about how the war could have been

00:35:07.480 prevented simply by making a proper energy deal with the eu and russia and ukraine you know and

00:35:15.160 solve it in a financial economic negotiated contractual way because it makes the most

00:35:21.640 sense actually for russian oil and gas to feed europe otherwise europe has to bring everything

00:35:27.560 by boat you know which is way more energy intensive the prices are much higher and um

00:35:33.960 you know, and then you're creating an enemy by not buying their product, if you get my meaning.

00:35:40.600 Yeah. And then meanwhile, here in Canada, we have Trudeau, you know, this is kind of throwing

00:35:46.520 out a left field, but I imagine you've probably seen it and thought about it. They're looking to

00:35:49.480 tax fertilizer now. They're actually looking to treat fertilizer as because they feel it contributes

00:35:55.640 to climate change and start taxing it to reduce the use of it, which of course will reduce the

00:36:00.200 the amount of food when we're moving towards a world food crisis. This is the insanity of the

00:36:06.920 ideology that's being pushed right now. Yeah. Yeah. There are a lot of people in the green

00:36:11.380 movement who are very eager to go back to sort of organic farming. And this is a project that's

00:36:18.260 happening in Europe right now. It's called the Food to Fork program. And this is including these

00:36:24.780 things like reducing uh chemical fertilizers and chemical pesticides herbicides and um

00:36:32.940 uh you know going back to having cattle fertilize your field which they do anyway you know they'll

00:36:40.140 just go out there and poop all over the place and that's great and their hooves dig up the ground

00:36:44.220 and you can see marine pools film about about that return to eden that's on our website too

00:36:50.380 but um but you know you can't create mass food production with uh like my grandpa did with a um

00:37:00.060 you know cowl around his neck a yolk yoked to um to an oxen you can't do that like many millions

00:37:09.660 more people will die so we can't go back to that and actually you know there's lots of evidence

00:37:15.580 showing that livestock doesn't create GHGs, that agricultural methods of today, the farmers are

00:37:22.400 way smarter and far ahead of all these crazy environmentalists. And, you know, it's just

00:37:30.980 insane that the government is listening to ideologues and not the real people who do the

00:37:35.860 real work. People are going to suffer and die.

00:37:39.420 I know. And I'm afraid it's going to be a cold comfort of being able to say, I told you so,

00:37:44.220 eight, nine months from now when we see starvation really starting to come into play in vulnerable

00:37:50.260 areas such as Northern Africa or one drought away from it in some South American countries or places

00:37:55.540 all over. And if they were listening, I mean, as you said, if the World Economic Forum was an

00:38:00.680 international group of elites who want to actually better the world, this should be the front and

00:38:05.880 center subject of today. I'm sure economists have been asking for it. I'm sure agricultural experts

00:38:10.180 have been pointing it out, supply chain experts, but they aren't talking about it. And that's

00:38:14.200 really disturbing and that really kind of exposes them for what they are yeah yeah green grifters 1.00

00:38:19.100 all of them yeah well we'll watch and see as i said the one little upside is hey people are 1.00

00:38:24.980 paying attention to them more than they ever have before and people are realizing it you know like

00:38:29.560 so many of the other conspiracy theories out there well they weren't actually so much a conspiracy

00:38:33.320 once the facts came out so i i think you know kind of like a vampire that shining a light on it and

00:38:39.800 exposing it is going to be what takes their power away.

00:38:42.720 And we're working towards that.

00:38:44.040 But unfortunately, I think that these ideologues in the world stage

00:38:46.760 are going to cause a lot of suffering and damage

00:38:48.360 before we can finally get them under control.

00:38:51.340 Yeah, well, and they all own big tech.

00:38:53.540 This is the real problem.

00:38:54.800 They own a lot of the media. 0.57

00:38:56.180 You know, after Greta made her appearance there,

00:38:59.080 Mark Bainoff of Salesforce, who's part of the World Economic Forum,

00:39:03.960 they put her on the cover of Time.

00:39:05.940 He owns Time.

00:39:06.580 you know so um you know and uh mark carney he's a trustee there and what did mark do he told uh

00:39:14.260 companies that if you don't uh get on the climate change bandwagon you'll go bankrupt so you know

00:39:19.900 these people are just shooting their mouth off all over the place and making a mess of the world

00:39:24.640 and uh we can't really do a lot about it because they're not elected they're not accountable and

00:39:31.460 they're transnational. So send your letters to the Swiss government like Clintel did. You can

00:39:37.720 see that letter on our website, on our blog. Great. Now, actually, since you brought it up

00:39:42.080 and to close it out, I appreciate you coming on to talk to us. It's always great when we have you on.

00:39:46.320 Where can we find more information about Friends of Science and yourself and where you're documenting

00:39:50.600 all this? Because your site's a great resource. I mean, if you want to drill down and find a lot

00:39:55.080 of stuff. It's there. Thank you. Well, you can look at www.friendsofscience.org. We're now going

00:40:03.240 into our 20th year of operation. We're a nonprofit run by volunteers, and we'd just love it if people

00:40:09.260 would help us with our campaign. Going into our 20th year, we're asking our followers if they

00:40:14.960 donate maybe $20 for our 20 years. You can donate more, but you can just send it by e-transfer to

00:40:22.100 contact at friendsofscience.org. And we've got, you know, we're on Facebook, we're on LinkedIn,

00:40:29.080 we're on Twitter and Instagram and YouTube, of course. So look and see what we've got.

00:40:36.800 And we welcome any comments. Great. Well, thanks again, Michelle. Always good talking to you. And

00:40:42.520 I hope we can talk again sometime soon. Thank you, Corey.

00:40:47.200 That was Michelle Sterling of Friends of Science. And if you didn't catch all those listings of

00:40:51.620 where to find them. Of course, that's the great thing with the internet. Just Google friends of

00:40:54.960 science and you'll find all sorts of links and resources. And as I said, their site's deep. It's

00:40:59.000 a great spot. If I'm searching stuff out for some of my ranting columns and such, I quite often

00:41:02.980 suddenly find myself there to get my stats and numbers on things because they are, as their name

00:41:07.240 says, friends of science. They're just looking at the numbers. You know, Michelle's a principled

00:41:11.020 person. I think if she saw stats saying the world was warming up at five degrees a week, she would

00:41:14.600 be bringing that up as a big concern as well. So yeah, you know, I'm going to speak to my next

00:41:20.360 sponsor, and it's funny, some people would see the timing of it as being wrong, but I think it's

00:41:24.860 right. It's the Canadian Shooting Sports Association, you know, and in light of the horrible, horrible

00:41:30.660 shooting in Texas, people say, well, why would I not think about a Canadian Shooting Sports

00:41:34.820 Association? But actually, I think associations like this are more important than ever, because

00:41:39.240 this is an association of non-psychopaths. This is an association of people who want responsible

00:41:44.500 use of firearms. They're as horrified as anybody else when they see the, you know, firearms being

00:41:49.200 improperly used for such harm. And as we know, the vast majority of firearm owners, I mean,

00:41:54.220 they'd never want to hurt anybody. Absolutely. And we want to see reasonable regulations,

00:41:59.200 reasonable laws, and strong cracking down on the illegal use of firearms. That's part of what

00:42:06.320 they're about. And that's part of what they put out as a part of their agenda, I guess you could

00:42:11.000 say with things. And they're an association. So I mean, they offer courses and safe usage of

00:42:16.040 firearms or showing where there's sports, you know, trap shooting, target shooting, uh, you know,

00:42:21.140 black powder. There's a lot of things that can be done with firearms that unfortunately that the

00:42:24.800 most horrific uses are done out there as well. So we can differentiate between these things. We can

00:42:29.740 stand up for our ability to, for the people who want to safely, uh, utilize firearms while

00:42:35.300 condemning the, the, the horrible, horrible, you know, misuse of it in the worst possible way you

00:42:41.700 saw yesterday. So check them out. The Canadian Shooting Sports Association. You can Google

00:42:45.120 CSSA-CILA.org. And yeah, I'm getting on to more nuanced discussion. I do like the comment scroll,

00:42:53.220 guys. I like seeing some other things. You know, one of the things pointed out by another one,

00:42:57.560 because I'm seeking solutions because I don't have any on this one. As I said, I got more

00:43:01.160 questions than answers. And for a bloviating blowhard like myself, that's a rare circumstance.

00:43:06.320 But this is just so terrible. And if I knew a magic bullet, I wouldn't care about ideology.

00:43:11.280 I would be pushing it as hard as I can. The solution to this epidemic of murders and school

00:43:17.040 shootings is going to be a complicated one with a lot of factors. Somebody brought one up that,

00:43:22.000 I'm sorry, I can't remember which comment it was. I saw it when Michelle was talking though about

00:43:25.300 the family breakdown. As I was saying, well, what's changed? What's changed in this last 30,

00:43:29.840 40 years that's really bringing so much more of this about? And that's another factor. It really

00:43:34.240 is. But how do you address that one? That one's tough. People bring it up and often it gets

00:43:38.200 dismissed as oh you're being racist especially when it comes to the American discussion because

00:43:42.260 some people point out that minority communities often are less inclined to have I guess you say

00:43:47.660 intact families over the long run and there's lots and lots of studies that particularly with young

00:43:52.860 men if they're raised in a fatherless household there's a much higher chance that they're going to

00:43:58.180 stray from the path you know and get into trouble or have problems down the road whether it's gang

00:44:02.560 activity or or shootings and that doesn't have anything to do with race it's in any household

00:44:06.780 if you can keep a family together, the chances for the kids are better. But how do you solve that?

00:44:13.180 You know, where do we go? It's not to say it can't be solved, but we got to talk about these

00:44:16.580 things. We got to look at all these things. And, you know, look at it today. I mean, there's some

00:44:22.880 aspects, I guess, on how easily people get divorced today compared to in the past. I've been through

00:44:27.900 it. But was it necessarily better 80 years ago when a couple would stay together, even if one

00:44:34.340 member of the couple or the other was abusive. You know, you just had to grin and bear it,

00:44:38.100 stay within there. Was that better for the family unit? Was it better for the household?

00:44:42.340 I think perhaps we give up too easily on our relationships and we split a lot too quickly.

00:44:47.260 And it's made, you know, for a mess. And again, a lot of broken homes, which again,

00:44:51.980 that doesn't mean they're necessarily dysfunctional. There's plenty of single

00:44:55.060 parent homes or new parents and so on that do fine. But I want to open it up, as I said, to

00:45:00.320 every bit of the conversation on this one, because there's just not enough answers and

00:45:06.140 there's so many questions and whatever. I don't think there'll ever be a permanent solution,

00:45:10.440 but we can mitigate, we can reduce, we can find out a little bit of what's at the root of this

00:45:14.520 and stop this trend from growing. It's just so bad. And Dash Riprock saying, stop shootings is

00:45:23.400 easy, armed security done. No, Dash, it's not. I do believe having more armed people may help

00:45:29.360 with things. But you see, easy? No, it's not easy. That's just one element out of what I think are

00:45:35.620 dozens and dozens of elements. And shooters don't like people firing back at them as Dash is saying,

00:45:40.360 well, that's fine. But you know, it's something I've worked in the States a lot in open carry

00:45:46.080 areas and everything. Most people who I saw in Texas say, you know, we're open carry and so on.

00:45:50.900 Perfectly responsible people aren't going to harm anybody. But I saw some that I'm not sure how they

00:45:54.540 tied their shoes right. And if there was a crisis situation in a crowd, I'm not sure if I want this

00:45:59.340 clown firing out there as well this could compound a moderate problem into a massive problem so don't

00:46:05.920 assume and I'm not trying to totally dismiss open carry or having more people armed I'm just saying

00:46:11.420 it's not a quicker necessarily a solution this is all nuanced and complicated and that's why we need

00:46:16.080 the discussions like I said I don't want to fight with anybody who's proposing solutions because I

00:46:20.100 can't think of them so by all means keep throwing them out there but that one has a it cuts both

00:46:27.180 ways, I guess. Don't assume that another armed person, even if well-meaning, would necessarily

00:46:32.280 do good. I mean, let's remember, there's a whole lot of idiots out there. I think George Carlin 1.00

00:46:38.680 said it best. Go out there and take a pad and paper and look around and write it down. Look

00:46:42.700 at your average idiot and write down how many there are. Then think about it. Half of the world 1.00

00:46:46.400 is dumber than them. So that's your average idiot. So arming them all, well, it's an aspect. 1.00

00:46:56.340 And I was just saying further, you know, of course, screening must be done. Fine. And I agree with that. Somebody was saying earlier, too, when I talked about that with background checks and screening, and they say they do have that in the state. Actually, it's very much state by state as to what the requirements are, waiting lists, things like that. Again, no magic cure for anything to have one policy or another.

00:47:17.300 would a waiting period have stopped this? I mean, it sounds like in the case of yesterday,

00:47:22.440 that this guy turned 18, went in and just bought some firearms and he was ready to roll. 0.95

00:47:28.840 But still, this was clearly a psychopathic kid. If he had waited a week, would it have stopped him?

00:47:34.520 If you made, he's an 18 year old, I don't know, presumably with no prior records, if you made him

00:47:39.300 fill out some forms and wait a month, would it have stopped him? I mean, if somebody's really

00:47:43.080 determined, they might do it. Or even if you declined this person in getting a firearm,

00:47:48.180 well, he might have been able to get an illegal one. See, there's no easy way. But at the same

00:47:53.160 time, something has to change. I don't think anybody can look at the circumstance, look at

00:47:57.720 the stats, look at the numbers, and pretend that there's not a problem and a growing one.

00:48:04.280 I mean, I'm old enough. I didn't grow up seeing this kind of shooting all the time on the news

00:48:08.380 all the day, all the time. And I mean, the numbers support that. There weren't school

00:48:12.140 shootings like this. There weren't mass shootings like this 40 years ago. So something is going

00:48:16.260 terribly wrong. So let's talk about it and figure out what the hell it is. Because if we don't find

00:48:23.060 out what it is and at least stop it, it's going to actually get worse. So yeah, I like ranting

00:48:30.580 about stuff, but this was just so depressing when it gets going. I'd rather rant about bad policies

00:48:34.520 and things, just not something that's as vile as this. Let's bring in and pivot and change the

00:48:40.280 subject here. We'll bring in Mr. Makachuk and we're going to talk about some, you know, serious

00:48:44.600 subject matter. Absolutely. And that's the treatment of our own Canadian citizens in our

00:48:48.320 justice system. And that's with Tamara Leach, who it turns out they didn't manage to throw her back 0.99

00:48:53.580 in jail, but boy, they sure wanted to. How are you doing, Dave? I'm good. I'm good. Yourself?

00:48:58.700 I'm okay. Like I said, it's, it's a rough day on that stuff. It is a rough day. It's a terrible

00:49:03.580 day. I just watched Beto O'Rourke crash the press conference in Texas, and it was just like

00:49:12.620 something out of, I've never, I haven't seen anything like it. They had to, the cops had to

00:49:18.780 get them out, and oh my God, it's just a, it's just a mess. The whole thing is just a mess.

00:49:24.480 Very sad. It's just, it's terrible. It's terrible. Like you said, what can we do?

00:49:29.320 What can we do?

00:49:30.200 I don't know.

00:49:31.260 I don't know what the answer is.

00:49:33.380 No, and I'm all ears.

00:49:34.660 I really am.

00:49:35.280 I'm more receptive to hearing other views than I ever have been when we see a harsh reality.

00:49:40.320 So, you know, that's pretty politicized.

00:49:41.860 Hopefully when things cool down a bit and we'll see some more rationed things rather than O'Rourke, you know, making a fool of himself or other people, you know, coming up with more extreme solutions on the conservative side as well.

00:49:57.300 It's just, let's think harder and see what works.

00:50:00.340 So getting through what I wanted to talk to you about was a column you'd written recently.

00:50:05.460 I mean, you crossed actually a couple of subjects with it, but you closed more with, you know,

00:50:09.060 and linking to Linda Slobodian's piece, but just on this ongoing vendetta against Tamara Leach.

00:50:16.100 I mean, this is something else in a democratic country.

00:50:19.260 Can you believe this is happening right now?

00:50:21.660 It's unbelievable.

00:50:22.540 I have to tell you, like I said, I mean, I've hung around this country a while, and I've seen a lot of things, and I've been in the media, and I have never seen anything so outrageous.

00:50:40.960 and and get this get this today uh thank god thank god there is one justice in this country 0.90

00:50:48.520 who said um that the uh bail uh terms hearing for uh tamara leach basically stated that she 0.92

00:50:59.960 was going to do time big time major league time imagine that and and and and and and you know

00:51:07.820 which is terrible like we're going to throw you away we're going to okay and what does uh philip

00:51:14.620 say he said guys she's presumed innocent duh we have something called rule of law in canada

00:51:24.200 and and and it took a justice to come up and say she isn't she innocent you know and and it's not

00:51:35.480 necessarily a fact that she's going to do any jail time or what jail time that is that's to be

00:51:41.400 determined by the law by a court and and he said he warned her and he said uh look uh uh you know

00:51:51.100 before the uh the queen it's who you know he who laughs last laughs the best so he kind of warned

00:51:58.520 her but basically he said no you can go to Ottawa for go see your uh your daughter who's attending

00:52:05.020 secondary school and you're not going back to jail you're not i mean so it's um it's unbelievable

00:52:14.060 it just it's just it just is incredible that this is actually happening can you imagine that

00:52:20.140 a judge reminding a a assistant crown attorney whose demeanor was uh uh disappointed the judge

00:52:31.900 because he had no case so he was you know he doth protest too much and the judge obviously saw

00:52:40.380 through it right thank god for that yeah because we were listening to it in the newsroom uh amanda

00:52:48.140 had it playing in the background had to suffer through it you know last week and this prosecutor

00:52:52.300 was just right over the top and uh yes as you said it's great that the judge called him out but man

00:52:57.260 Why such a vendetta? Why so strongly on this? You know, I mean, we understand how bail works.

00:53:03.400 If if Lee should have been out there organizing, if we'd seen she's been putting up Facebook

00:53:08.060 posting, hey, everybody, gather the trucks. Let's do it again. You know, here's where you send new

00:53:13.500 fundraising. I mean, all of those other bail conditions. I'd throw my head to be, geez,

00:53:17.980 Tamara, I think you're great, but you kind of are asking for it here. All she did was say yes to an

00:53:23.040 award on an email. That's it. And they figured that's enough to go after her. And, and, and,

00:53:27.980 and, uh, again, uh, justice Phillips made a very good ruling. He said that the award has nothing

00:53:34.780 to do with the, uh, they're not connected. They're not connected. So that doesn't mean that she can

00:53:41.380 accept it or whatever, but she said, she's not going to go to, uh, you know, go there to accept

00:53:46.940 award but maybe that's to be determined i don't know but in any case uh uh he said they're not

00:53:53.420 connected and you know and the federal government is is is uh uh uh you know going after her i mean

00:54:01.900 it's not like she was planting ieds on the side of the road for god's sake you know why are we

00:54:08.300 putting her in in in our own little uh uh gitmo uh uh you know is that what true i mean and and

00:54:16.140 you ask why is this happening well our prime minister is in vancouver or was in vancouver

00:54:21.900 i don't know if he's still there or if maybe he's surfing maybe he's out there surfing he loves

00:54:26.940 surfing right so uh uh you know he said uh well he's there talking about uh things um aside from

00:54:35.740 the uh uh the uh he appeared uh with um some ceremonies and stuff with the first nations

00:54:44.220 which is great but uh he basically used that as a platform to say to call us all right-wing

00:54:51.420 terrorists like to talk about the right-wing terrorism canada like what like is this the

00:54:59.580 people who are we're fighting for freedom they're terrorists are you a terrorist corey am i are we

00:55:07.100 next are we on the list and he said he's working closely you know with thesis and god help us for

00:55:13.660 with those guys and to to get at these terrorists does that mean make me i'm i'm an alberta

00:55:20.940 separatist i'm a very strong alberta separatist i would like to see some autonomy from alberta

00:55:27.020 i i don't want i i don't want to necessarily see us go our own way but in some ways i think it's

00:55:32.700 our only option but does that make me an enemy of the state is that was trudeau talking about me

00:55:40.860 on the coast? Was he talking about Fred and Martha who donated 20 bucks to the freedom?

00:55:51.820 And yet Trudeau had the audacity, the audacity, after he gave 10 million dollars to Omar Khadr.

00:56:00.700 And regardless whether Khadr deserved it or not, I'm not going to get into that,

00:56:04.780 but i will say this he said we we have to protect rights in a just society whether it's

00:56:11.420 unpopular or popular well for god's sake how hypocritical can you possibly be and go after

00:56:19.180 this woman as you know what i mean like for god's sake thank god and hopefully a court of law will

00:56:28.140 prevail maybe they'll and it was it was that liberal judge i think uh linda oh by the way

00:56:34.860 i must give credit to linda for an absolutely fabulous piece uh i read it and i just it just

00:56:40.300 i mean i just got inspired to uh respond to it and linda did a great job on that but she basically

00:56:46.140 said this liberal judge in ontario was the one who said you know you're going up the creek lady

00:56:51.500 we're going to send you to alcatraz you're going you're going that in his bail conditions 1.00

00:56:57.100 What kind of idiocy is that? 1.00

00:56:59.840 You and I deserve to be presumed innocent, for Christ's sakes. 1.00

00:57:05.260 Well, you know, I mean, part of it is their narrative is falling apart.

00:57:09.460 It really is.

00:57:10.640 I mean, a term I've been seeing a lot on social media from some of the liberal fart catchers making excuses for this is insurrectionists.

00:57:17.160 That's a word they keep throwing out as a hot word. 0.99

00:57:20.000 She was supporting an insurrection. 0.99

00:57:21.880 Like, let's get real.

00:57:22.900 The only evidence they have of that was some handful of kooks put a Facebook posting up saying they felt they'd be able to replace the governor general and the prime minister and put in some government.

00:57:33.940 That didn't represent the protest.

00:57:35.640 That had nothing to do with her.

00:57:36.900 And it wasn't realistic. 0.85

00:57:38.140 It was just a handful of crackpots. 0.95

00:57:39.940 But they're using that as a justification to come down on a leash.

00:57:44.580 I mean, she'd never, she'd be charged if that was the real case. 0.95

00:57:47.520 Insurrection is illegal. 0.90

00:57:48.700 They would have much more serious things than mischief charges if that's really what she had done.

00:57:55.040 Is an insurrectionist the person who wants to make the country a better place?

00:57:59.520 I mean, come on.

00:58:01.580 They were embarrassed because that Ottawa, that freedom convoy took over the city for a long time.

00:58:11.360 And his royal highness wouldn't come out and talk to them. 0.99

00:58:14.740 He would rather paint them with a one brush and say they were all Nazis and God, you know, ridiculous. Yet I was, I mean, I was talking to Mike Thomas about this and Mike was saying, because I said, look, you know, C-Sys is going after Canadian extremism and hateful rhetoric. 0.96

00:58:35.620 what exactly does that mean and and we both concluded that really um none of their fears

00:58:42.660 their so-called fears uh came true none of it you know what i mean it's all exaggerated it's

00:58:49.940 blown out of proportion it's amplified times 10 and thankfully this judge phillips i really have

00:58:56.900 to commend him uh for standing up for uh uh a rule of law thank god thank god you know

00:59:06.500 obviously the liberals didn't uh buy him out or or whatever that guy is that guy's is is i think

00:59:13.380 he's trying to be fair which is great which is really good and thank god for that boy i tell you

00:59:19.540 i just i've never seen anything like this i've never seen you know what it's payback

00:59:24.660 it's payback for their embarrassment let's go after her no matter what just like when bobby

00:59:31.300 kennedy went after uh jimmy hoffa it wasn't like he did this okay so let no no you get 20 guys in a

00:59:39.620 room try to find something on somebody and of course they found something on off and put them

00:59:45.300 away so it's like it's almost like that it's almost like okay now let's see we got to put

00:59:50.580 her away for something so let's just keep harping on her and making her life miserable well and i

00:59:56.420 think part of the issue too as sylvia pointed out you know they're using her association with pat

01:00:00.820 king for some of the things he said see pat king is kind of everything that the the people opposed

01:00:06.260 to the truckers protest point at because pat king is a bit of a haywire individual he says some

01:00:11.460 things that are offensive to pretty much everybody he got associated with the convoy and he didn't

01:00:16.020 represent a lot of them. I think they would be thrilled to have Pat King actually out there on

01:00:20.660 social media just to keep demonstrating and showing how wacko some of the people, a very

01:00:24.500 tiny minority of the people were. But Tamara Lee, she's the opposite. She's well-spoken. She's a 0.95

01:00:29.560 law-abiding citizen. She's a mother. I think she might be a grandmother. You know, she's not a 0.98

01:00:34.720 raving lunatic with her hair in the air calling for insurrection or any of that. And that's why 1.00

01:00:39.860 they want her out of sight because she and her very existence undercuts their whole case that 0.94

01:00:44.980 this was a insurrection led by crazy people. It wasn't at all. This was just somebody who could

01:00:49.840 have been your neighbor down the street and they hate that. Oh, exactly. That's exactly. I mean,

01:00:55.020 you said it quite well there. And, you know, when this convoy started, as it moved along,

01:01:01.480 it kind of changed and it caught momentum and it changed. And then these other people glommed onto

01:01:06.420 it but uh i mean i just again um they're just attacking uh you know and one of the things i

01:01:16.020 said as i finished my column is if it happens to her it can happen to you you could be next

01:01:23.380 so you know watch your p's and q's because uh times are changing and uh if they can do this

01:01:31.220 to her they can do it to you they can do it to anybody they can break you down and and and uh

01:01:38.820 hopefully hopefully the rule of law will uh will be the way we go and that's the way we should go

01:01:45.620 in this case and and uh she's got good uh you know um a good lawyer of course very good lawyer and he

01:01:52.740 and uh i uh you know hopefully that will that will come out in the end and the truth has to come out

01:01:59.540 well that's what we're saying we're saying the truth is that such a terrible thing for the truth

01:02:06.100 to come out the next thing i expect to see whenever it happens is when she as you said

01:02:10.660 she's innocent until proven guilty she is waiting for trial and in our system i mean it would be

01:02:15.940 very expensive if we kept everybody incarcerated all the way till not to mention inhumane uh you

01:02:20.980 know until trial time unless they were presenting an immediate risk to society but something i got

01:02:25.620 got a feeling the first thing they're going to ask for when your trial comes is a gag order

01:02:28.900 because they're not going to want to hear what's coming out in that courtroom when they this you

01:02:34.340 know prosecutor whether it's a different one or another one tries to make the case that this is

01:02:37.820 a crazed insurrectionist and they don't have any evidence for it and they're going to look all the

01:02:41.780 worse so uh there's just where i'll lay my money on a bet i mean i'm failing on the battle of

01:02:46.240 alberta but i will bet they will throw a gag order on this because they will not want the public to

01:02:51.560 what's going on there i totally agree i totally agree i think i think you're exactly right i think

01:02:56.440 they will try and limit limit it as much as they possibly can whether they say it's national

01:03:01.880 security or god knows what or you know uh they will they will try and control this as much as

01:03:08.120 they can and you know they're very powerful they they can they can there's other avenues they can

01:03:13.960 take i suppose i don't know uh but uh i hope that uh for the sake of her and for all canadians

01:03:21.880 who who may have uh uh i wouldn't say different ideas but i would say who who say well look i

01:03:29.320 don't think that's right and and uh uh you know i disagree and and i and uh uh you know and i'm

01:03:36.520 not necessarily you know but to be labeling you know our prime minister labeling you know going

01:03:43.160 that far and and just just going out on this bizarre tangent for canada i mean it just uh i

01:03:51.960 i again there's no evidence there was no evidence whatsoever of of any of their of the fears of uh

01:04:00.440 thesis at the uh freedom convoy as far as we know there was nothing there really wasn't anything

01:04:07.400 Other than, you know, like you said, some people latched on who may not have been, you know, as squeaky clean as we would want.

01:04:18.140 But that's just the way it went. 0.99

01:04:19.540 I mean, it just, it's, and I think in all countries we have, I mean, don't we all have a certain amount of people who, you know, like you were mentioning earlier, the idiots. 1.00

01:04:34.460 Well, sure as well. 0.99

01:04:35.380 You know, like you were saying with the comedian, you know, that was actually a really good line about just take a pen and paper and look around.

01:04:44.760 I mean, but anyway, yeah, yeah, I think you're right.

01:04:49.260 I think they're going to try and control it.

01:04:51.580 And innocent until proven guilty.

01:04:55.700 Presumption of innocence, for God's sake.

01:04:58.820 I wouldn't support this kind of treatment of a left-wing protester who I didn't like their cause.

01:05:03.000 I wouldn't. I mean, unless they were acting out between their first charge and their court date,

01:05:08.160 I would say, well, wait till the court date. I mean, we've got to get realistic locking them up

01:05:11.760 in communicado for months that that's not what a civilized country does. So, I mean, all we can do

01:05:16.780 is hope, though, as you said, that that judge was very principled. That's just on the case of this

01:05:20.320 bail hearing. Well, let's hope there's another principled judge weighs the facts when the time

01:05:24.740 comes. I mean, realistically, these are mischief charges. This is somebody who's not presenting

01:05:28.060 and risks to society. I can't see how anything more than time served in a fine would, I mean,

01:05:33.400 that's just me certainly guessing, but would be at best appropriate, if not an acquittal,

01:05:38.220 because it's just a little much. Well, and just briefly, let's face it. This is a test of our

01:05:44.660 democracy. This is a test of our democracy. The fact that they brought in the emergency measures

01:05:53.900 has hurt our reputation abroad.

01:05:56.900 People are now questioning, like, what is this guy doing?

01:06:00.920 Even some of the liberal commentators in the United States,

01:06:07.780 talk shows were like, what the hell is this guy doing?

01:06:11.180 Is he out of his mind? 1.00

01:06:12.820 Is he nuts? 0.97

01:06:14.180 You know, like, so this is going to be a test of our democracy. 0.72

01:06:18.940 And if we throw this woman away in jail for leading a freedom convoy, I mean, it's just, I can't believe it.

01:06:32.000 I'm just shocked how far it's gone.

01:06:34.720 I can see her getting a slap on the wrist, a legal slap on the wrist, but it's like they're expending every ounce of their energy.

01:06:43.940 Trudeau obviously wants her, you know, thrown into the clink.

01:06:48.940 it's got to be him

01:06:51.220 him and those around him

01:06:53.640 well thanks for writing on it

01:06:55.600 and coming on to talk to us about today

01:06:57.560 you know it's Dave Makachuk

01:06:59.500 you can find him in usually the opinions section

01:07:01.780 of the Western Standard among other places

01:07:03.720 you got anything else coming down the pipes

01:07:05.660 people should be watching for Dave

01:07:06.740 yeah I'm actually doing a piece today

01:07:09.640 on Top Gun

01:07:10.800 which is coming out

01:07:12.960 is it tomorrow it comes out

01:07:15.240 I think or this week it comes out

01:07:17.320 And, of course, there's all about, you know, it'll be a great movie.

01:07:25.180 I'm a big Top Gun fan, and it's going to be a great movie.

01:07:28.360 But the fact of the matter is that some experts are saying that dogfighting, aerial dogfighting, is actually obsolete.

01:07:37.540 So I think that might be an interesting read.

01:07:40.260 And that's coming up today or tomorrow.

01:07:43.220 It depends on Dave's schedule.

01:07:45.000 well yeah dave's always uh hard at it so right on well thanks for coming on to talk always fun

01:07:52.060 dave and uh we'll talk again soon looking forward to that piece okay thanks thanks a lot cory take

01:07:57.220 care thanks so reminder again that was dave makachuk and yeah just everybody's shaking

01:08:01.780 their heads wondering what the hell is is going on in this country uh particularly in her case

01:08:06.280 uh june marie a commenter brought up something else uh saying uh i wish cory would talk about

01:08:10.980 the whole coots debacle uh these guys are being charged with conspiracy to commit murder but no

01:08:14.980 evidence has been brought forward. I think I might've mentioned that before and a while back, 0.90

01:08:19.200 and I'll just follow up a little further now. I do actually know one of the people who was charged

01:08:24.760 with one of the more serious of the offenses there. And I don't have any inside knowledge

01:08:30.160 on what's going on. I haven't been in touch. I don't know what's going on, but I feel just even

01:08:35.120 with that alone, I'm just going to stay off of that one. We've got a lot of other news people

01:08:38.360 and people covering it, but it just isn't one area that I'm going to poke into just because

01:08:43.320 there's a bit of a connection and it just doesn't feel appropriate to go into it because again at

01:08:47.760 the same time people I don't want them to interpret anything I'd speak on that issue as if I know

01:08:51.240 anything more than you do on it I don't I know the individual one of them and I just don't want

01:08:58.660 to dip into that one it's just too close that way it's just being fair and then where things are

01:09:03.100 other people will cover it I am interested to see what happens on there it's quite that's a whole

01:09:07.620 separate affair going on down there as opposed to the rest of the convoy and we'll see what happens

01:09:12.440 But the lack of information on it has been interesting.

01:09:14.820 We aren't hearing a lot.

01:09:17.260 So, you know, I'll be watching and waiting with the rest of you as well.

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01:11:33.320 wallet, ledger and all that good stuff. All right, let's look at some more new stuff before we carry

01:11:39.020 on here. Let's see, this is a neat one. The press bailout. So we got to remember, and yeah, here's

01:11:44.060 a sickening one, particularly for us in alternative media, because the government's been given, you

01:11:48.700 $600 million to the newspapers and a bunch. And the cabinet, because they've been asked about it

01:11:54.360 to invoke confidentiality, they're refusing to detail who they paid and how much. Of course they

01:12:00.480 are. You know, if you really want to see who they paid and how much, look to which newspapers have

01:12:06.860 their noses deepest in Trudeau's butt. If you see nothing but editorial comment that's throwing out 0.97

01:12:13.560 the liberal line, I bet you there's a pretty good chance they took a lot of the media bailout.

01:12:21.480 Just a suspicion on my part. So even if cabinet won't tell us who it is, I think we can kind of

01:12:27.900 see who it is for ourselves. That's part of why things were so disgustingly slanted during the

01:12:33.280 convoy protests. That's why so many people turned away. I mean, our membership exploded during that

01:12:37.600 period because people were so repulsed by the mainstream media because basically they were

01:12:42.000 just reprinting and regurgitating the government's talking points and calling it news.

01:12:47.040 Well, what do you expect when they're completely relying on the government to pay their bills?

01:12:51.860 You know, there's no getting rich in independent media. We do okay. We're paid. That's fine. You

01:12:55.780 know, that's why I come in. But there's a nice satisfaction in being here and knowing I don't

01:13:02.180 have to dangle to the agenda of some benefactor, funder, government, something like that. You know,

01:13:08.040 I mean, I've got limitations.

01:13:09.400 If I went off the handle,

01:13:11.760 I'm certain Derek would come in

01:13:12.900 and shut me down pretty fast,

01:13:14.680 but I'm not beholden to the government

01:13:16.120 or anybody else,

01:13:17.060 nor are anybody else around here.

01:13:18.940 That's why independent media is so important

01:13:20.740 and the government sees it.

01:13:21.920 So they've actually invoked cabinet confidentiality

01:13:24.180 because they were asked about it.

01:13:25.340 Well, who's getting the money?

01:13:26.460 Where is it going?

01:13:27.120 Oh, we can't talk about that.

01:13:27.980 It's confidential.

01:13:28.500 Why not?

01:13:28.800 It's our money.

01:13:30.220 It shouldn't be confidential a bit.

01:13:32.420 It's our money.

01:13:34.300 You don't get to tell us where you spent it

01:13:36.160 and where you didn't spend it,

01:13:37.040 but well, actually they do.

01:13:38.380 That's the way we are with this setup we have in Canada

01:13:42.160 where they're controlling information.

01:13:43.840 I, you know, just a heads up

01:13:44.840 and I'll mention it again later,

01:13:45.860 but I'm gonna have Michael Geist on tomorrow.

01:13:47.280 He's a professor.

01:13:48.460 He's always talked about information technology

01:13:50.080 and things like that.

01:13:51.040 And he's been very strong in that area.

01:13:52.800 And I'm looking forward to that discussion

01:13:53.980 because this is a government

01:13:54.880 that's been obsessed with controlling information,

01:13:57.340 obsessed with controlling the messaging

01:13:59.300 and what you get to hear,

01:14:00.640 what you don't get to hear.

01:14:01.900 And the carrot is the dangling of these subsidies,

01:14:04.700 these newspapers and television outlets

01:14:06.360 that they basically bought, the stick, that's C11. And that's some of these policies where they're

01:14:12.640 going to use it to SWAT at outlets like ourselves that are independent. We've got quite a battle

01:14:16.900 going on here right now. And, you know, here's some of the BS that you hear somebody. So, you

01:14:24.740 know, for this bailout, this is Bob Cox, I guess he was talking to an interview saying, he chaired

01:14:30.700 a panel of these executives appointed by the Department of Heritage to design the subsidy

01:14:36.720 plan for the outlets. He says, when I'm out and about, people congratulated me and told me it's

01:14:40.700 a good thing for news media across the country. This is Bob Cox, then publisher of the Winnipeg

01:14:45.540 Free Press and chair of News Media Canada. Yeah, everybody was out saying, I want the government

01:14:51.800 to buy the media. I bet. I bet, Bob. Yeah, they were out there in droves just patting you on the

01:14:57.200 back, weren't you? I'll take things that never happened for 500, Alex. Come on. This is BS.

01:15:03.820 But these are the guys out there. I mean, these are guys within the media and they're sucking in 0.90

01:15:08.640 the money. They're subsidized and they're selling their media souls for this. We're not allowed to

01:15:14.200 find out who gets these subsidies, who's getting them, who is qualifying and it is problematic.

01:15:21.880 So yeah, they amended the Income Tax Act

01:15:23.760 to pay 25% payroll rebates

01:15:25.580 to 13,750 per newsroom employee too.

01:15:29.440 And there's the quote,

01:15:30.400 qualified Canadian journalism organizations.

01:15:32.700 You gotta remember, they determine who is or isn't.

01:15:35.040 It's up to them.

01:15:36.380 That's why they wanna make sure

01:15:37.420 that caveat's always there.

01:15:38.720 Because if they don't hold the power

01:15:40.320 to choose who is and isn't eligible for it,

01:15:43.980 well, then they can't control what you're saying.

01:15:45.260 They can't make sure that there's always

01:15:46.400 an underlying threat that,

01:15:47.820 hey, if you say naughty things

01:15:49.380 and mean things about government,

01:15:50.400 we're going to pull your status. That's what they'll do. Come on. So yeah, we're not allowed 0.87

01:15:57.500 to find out how much, but as I said, all you have to do is see what they're saying. You know,

01:16:03.440 which ones are beholden to the Trudeau government. Let's see another, this one's interesting. You

01:16:08.360 know, there's predictions and this is from Paula Simons and I've been critical of her.

01:16:13.220 I've been celebratory too. She did some fantastic work as a journalist in Edmonton, exposing

01:16:17.500 some of the stuff in the foster system with a young girl who was murdered in care and a whole

01:16:23.320 bunch of problems there. If you look that up with Paula Simons, she did get appointed though by the

01:16:27.720 liberals into a Senate. And of course they always say, oh, these are independent senators. Oh, BS.

01:16:34.940 When you're appointed by a liberal, you stay liberal. Paula Simons showed that when she 0.99

01:16:38.220 supported bills C-69 and C-48, which were the anti-pipeline, anti-tanker bills,

01:16:42.160 She voted in favor of those. No Albertan who pretends to be supporting Albertan views

01:16:48.840 would support those bills. But she did show some independence, at least. This cabinet bill

01:16:54.600 is detailing legal grounds to search travelers' cell phones and laptops. And she says it might

01:17:00.360 lead to political witch hunts. So let's give credit where it's due. I'm glad she's bringing

01:17:03.340 it up. She's saying travelers could be targeted for phone and computer searches based on their

01:17:07.200 political views. And she's saying it would put the privacy rights of thousands of Canadian

01:17:11.780 travelers in real jeopardy. So these bills that slide through, every bill we're getting from the

01:17:18.460 government right now is another one chipping away at our rights, our rights to privacy,

01:17:22.240 our rights to speech, our rights to movement, our rights just not to wear a freaking mask on an

01:17:26.260 airplane. Well, they're going after this, and this is through Senate. So this is an act to amend the

01:17:32.340 Customs Act, but it's basically giving border service agents, again, government agents, more

01:17:37.840 power, unlimited, in fact, to get in and surrender your passwords to your electronic devices.

01:17:44.880 Yes, this is a problem. This is big. And a reason why are they looking for your,

01:17:51.840 you know, history, your political history, because we can't, this government's political,

01:17:57.660 they can claim they're looking for criminal stuff. Yeah, right. And again, it's not with a warrant,

01:18:01.300 this is them demanding it while you're at the border, while you're vulnerable.

01:18:03.760 and searching through your personal items and phones

01:18:09.560 is a reasonable concern

01:18:11.020 and not wanting to give them the authority for that.

01:18:13.540 I mean, it's none of their business what's on there.

01:18:16.520 It's none of their business what's on your phone.

01:18:18.640 Get a warrant, come back with a warrant.

01:18:21.040 A phone nowadays is more than just a phone.

01:18:23.580 I mean, it's an extension of what people have,

01:18:25.780 what they do, who they've been communicating with,

01:18:28.540 who they have memberships with,

01:18:29.780 where they've been buying things.

01:18:30.800 We do everything on our phone.

01:18:31.800 It's a little portable computer with us at all times.

01:18:35.220 I don't necessarily want to share what I have on there with some random border agent

01:18:39.420 because they feel that I might have done something the wrong way.

01:18:43.740 I mean, it's, again, there's nothing they're going to find on mine.

01:18:46.800 It's not their bloody business, though.

01:18:49.340 So, yeah, this is stuff they're sliding through.

01:18:51.840 So I'm glad Paula Simons, Senator Simons, is bringing this up.

01:18:56.280 I hope this bill dies, though I doubt it.

01:18:57.940 There's not many bills die from this government, even though it's a minority one, because they

01:19:02.360 made a deal with the NDP, Jagmeet Singh. He's a sad specimen of a politician, but he'll

01:19:12.040 exercise what influence he can. So yeah, just more and more, guys. You're losing every right

01:19:17.120 you have. The Canada Post and Corporation Act forbids police from intercepting mail in transit.

01:19:22.000 the border services agency can't inspect any mail under 30 grams. You see, that's an interesting

01:19:28.160 point that's brought up in this story. The reasoning that comes up out of the blue with

01:19:30.720 this is because if it's not smuggling something physical, so something under 30 grams, it's just

01:19:35.500 communication. It's not their business to go in and read it. So they ban that, or they have for

01:19:41.760 a long time. They distinguish, they understand the difference between keeping people's privacy

01:19:45.360 intact and keeping the public safe. But your phone contains a whole hell of a lot more than

01:19:51.800 them one letter and they don't feel they should protect that. They don't feel that you should

01:19:57.140 have your health data looked into or your Tinder account or your Grindr account or whatever your

01:20:04.220 thing is. If there's one on there or photographs or confidential professional documents, there's

01:20:09.540 all sorts of things you might have on your phone. You don't want to share with some guy at the

01:20:13.840 border, but you're going to lose that right. And they might be able to snap their fingers. So we're

01:20:17.600 gonna lock you up till you give us the password. I mean, they're saying, you know, they try to

01:20:23.420 justify it because there's, there's been some people caught with child porn. Yeah, it's a

01:20:26.000 horrible, awful thing. And I want to go after child pornographers, people who carry it on their

01:20:30.300 phones or their computers, people who spread it, of course, the people who produce it.

01:20:34.700 But there's a reason we have warrants, guys. There's a reason we have process. There's a

01:20:39.020 reason the rights still have to come first. And giving complete arbitrary power to government

01:20:44.660 agents at the border to search is not where we want to go. Something else Dave brought up. This

01:20:50.580 was a beautiful one, eh? So suing, yeah, there's a class action lawsuit. It looks like whether it's

01:20:57.180 going to go further in the Quebec courts. But the green car of the year, yes. Canada's 2017 green

01:21:04.100 car of the year, the Chevrolet Bolt. Well, it's a piece of crap. Overpriced piece of junk, like a 1.00

01:21:09.600 lot of the Electrica overrated stuff is. And yeah, seeing you brought a used model on claims 0.96

01:21:15.640 that it would run up to 383 kilometers between charges, which is pretty crappy range anyways,

01:21:22.200 when you got to wait that long. But the range, it turns out, doesn't even reach 300 kilometers in

01:21:25.700 winter. Also, the recharging time is much, much longer in winter because, again, they seem to put

01:21:30.660 all their stats out based on ideal California weather or something. But they knew about this

01:21:35.740 apparently as early as 2017, but still kept selling on those basis, on those false claims

01:21:41.040 of how great these electric vehicles are. And the lawsuit hasn't been certified yet, but both buyers

01:21:47.620 are looking to claim a $38,000 refund plus some punitive damages. It'll be interesting to see

01:21:52.660 where that one goes. Now they're oversold things and are people being ripped off? It's quite a

01:22:00.200 concern. And yeah, that's even after federal rebates, of course, because they're trying to

01:22:04.820 bribe us with our own money to buy something we don't want. Getting back to climate change. Let's

01:22:09.880 look at this beauty. Forest burning like it's 1870. Yeah, forest fires in northern Canada. Here's some

01:22:14.740 things when we get to the numbers. This is why I like having friends of science on. Forest fires in

01:22:19.800 northern Canada, no more frequent than they were in the 19th century. So the Department of Natural

01:22:24.760 Resources and Cabinet keeps blaming wildfires and climate change, but we're not having more fires.

01:22:29.440 We aren't.

01:22:32.540 The decline in fire frequency is due to a decline in human-caused ignitions, it says in a study.

01:22:37.200 The current rate of burning is still lower than historic levels.

01:22:40.780 You see, the difference now is there's a couple of things going on.

01:22:44.320 One, we see it.

01:22:47.660 We have social media.

01:22:48.580 We have TV.

01:22:49.180 We see the ravages of a fire when it goes.

01:22:51.280 We get the live coverage of it when it moves in.

01:22:52.960 The other thing is we've got people living in forested areas that never lived there before,

01:22:56.560 so it's a hell of a lot more damaging.

01:22:57.880 but it's natural for these forests to burn. They always have. They always will.

01:23:02.800 And unfortunately, when you live within them, my house backs into a forest. I'm a little fearful

01:23:06.520 of that all the time. I mean, I clear brush around my place and do what I can. But if that whole

01:23:10.980 forest went up, I got a feeling, you know, my log home would probably not fare terribly well.

01:23:15.760 But that's my choice in moving into a forested area. If I wanted to avoid that, I could buy a

01:23:18.940 place out by Vulcan, Alberta, where there's not a tree for 50 miles. But the frequency isn't up.

01:23:23.840 Every time we have a big forest fire, you get the climate kooks coming out saying, this wouldn't happen if we would just buy electric cars or have more carbon taxes, because carbon taxes put fires out.

01:23:36.120 It's not true.

01:23:37.740 We're burning more.

01:23:38.820 We're just hearing more about it.

01:23:40.300 The numbers don't add up to the rhetoric.

01:23:43.080 So remember these things as they come out, because, of course, there's going to be more fires somewhere this summer.

01:23:46.500 There always are.

01:23:47.500 There always have been.

01:23:48.500 There have been since the history of fire and wood.

01:23:51.980 And we want to control it.

01:23:53.320 we want to mitigate, we want to reduce risks of things, but let's quit pretending that we have

01:23:59.340 some increase in forest fires because of climate change. We don't. Another thing that's happening

01:24:04.020 is forest management has not been going well. And I've talked about that before. I worked in

01:24:10.380 the bush a lot in the past. I was a surveyor. And you get in some of these areas that are highly

01:24:13.900 populated. Well, because of fire suppression, the forest hasn't burned in a long, long time.

01:24:19.760 And you see, when you're hiking through that as a surveyor, it was miserable.

01:24:22.880 The amount of undergrowth and deadwood and fire ladders and everything all built up in there.

01:24:27.600 It's a tinderbox waiting to go off.

01:24:30.760 And it's because it's a populated area.

01:24:32.800 When I'm way up in the north or when it was, the bush wasn't necessarily that bad because every 50, 60 years or so, it would all burn and rejuvenate.

01:24:39.740 But we stunt it, you know, artificially in populated areas.

01:24:44.220 But it also means when a fire comes,

01:24:45.640 and it's not if, it's when,

01:24:47.060 then it will burn with a lot more intensity

01:24:48.800 because it has all that fuel there.

01:24:50.820 So we've got to think a little harder.

01:24:52.720 I mean, logging, bush clearing or prescribed burns,

01:24:56.280 there's a lot of things we could do.

01:24:57.280 But again, you get in the populated area 1.00

01:24:58.380 and there's every nimby, 1.00

01:24:59.100 oh my God, you can't take down those trees 0.99

01:25:00.720 that I see on the hill over there.

01:25:02.180 I'll have to look at a cut block, it'll be evil.

01:25:04.260 You can't do a prescribed burn

01:25:05.780 because it'll smell stinky and make my couch stink.

01:25:08.460 But in the meantime,

01:25:09.700 you end up in a dangerous circumstance

01:25:12.500 with potential forest fires around you.

01:25:15.280 Okay, well, that's enough rambling out of me today, guys.

01:25:18.180 I got a couple of good guests coming on tomorrow.

01:25:20.380 I'm going to have John Mulberg.

01:25:21.620 He's the leader of the Alberta Buffalo Party.

01:25:23.440 Yes, we have yet another provincial party.

01:25:26.520 And John Mulberg is the leader of it.

01:25:28.580 They kind of slid under the radar.

01:25:29.780 They came out publicly a little while ago with a new leader.

01:25:32.440 And we'll see what they have to offer.

01:25:34.280 How many conservative-type provincial political parties can we sustain?

01:25:39.300 but we'll find out if Mr.

01:25:40.320 Mulberg as to why he feels that their party should be the one to head to.

01:25:44.400 And as I said,

01:25:44.880 Professor Michael Geist on a CAC 11 and information issues and internet and

01:25:49.960 things such as that,

01:25:51.000 that's going to be a really good conversation as well.

01:25:53.300 And of course,

01:25:53.820 all the news and check-ins and good stuff to follow with that.

01:25:56.820 So thanks for tuning in today,

01:25:58.240 guys.

01:25:58.720 And I will see you all tomorrow at 1130 AM out in standard time.

01:26:02.220 Sure.

01:26:09.300 Thank you.

01:26:39.300 Amen.

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