Western Standard - Triggered： Legacy media is running interference for Justin Trudeau in the mass shooting scandal

00:00:00.000 good morning it's the third 2022 thursday getting to the end of june here welcome to triggered i'm

00:00:15.460 cory morgan this is the western standards daily live show we run monday to friday i think next

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00:01:05.780 and we'll just see what is going on in the world today and what's got me pissed off, which is

00:01:11.560 always a subject to kick things off. I'll get to that in a moment. Let's see though. We've got

00:01:16.460 daily observances. I like to hit those while everybody's settling in and getting ready for

00:01:19.780 the show. It is let it go day. This is a tough one for me. I'm not good at that. I hang on to

00:01:25.320 things like a, you know, a fat kid on a smarty. I get on there and I just can't let go, but all the

00:01:31.100 same, it is good, healthy advice. Make sure sometimes just let it go, take a breath, put it

00:01:38.180 behind you, get on with it. Good advice for everybody, including myself. I'll see if I can

00:01:42.960 learn to take advantage of that as well. It is, I don't know where this one came from, runner's

00:01:47.940 selfie day so this is the day i guess if you're out running as you can see take your selfie of

00:01:53.380 yourself while you're running i guess it's sort of that personal virtue signaling thing it's just

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00:02:18.500 that it's a nice place to ride, but just look at me, guys. Look at me. I'm saving the world. So

00:02:22.760 either way, if you're a runner and there's nothing wrong with running and what the hell, celebrate

00:02:26.760 it, get out there. Today's the day to do your runner's selfie and share it with the world.

00:02:30.820 All right. Now with today's guests coming up in a while, I'm going to have UCP leadership

00:02:35.280 candidate Todd Lowen. That'll be a good conversation. I've known Todd for quite some

00:02:39.600 time and he's coming in from a different perspective as somebody who was ejected from

00:02:43.460 the UCP caucus, but now running for the leadership of the party itself. We'll see how it's going and

00:02:48.640 what he's got to offer. And then for something a little bit different, I'm going to talk to Dr.

00:02:52.840 Samuel West, and he's the curator of the Museum of Failure. Yes, this is a full-out museum that

00:02:59.300 documents and tracks, well, failures, corporate failures, things. I mean, one that'll jump to

00:03:05.760 mind first thing is the new Coke, and they cover that there. And that museum is going to be setting

00:03:10.200 up in Calgary for a month starting on July 1st, I believe. So that'll be a fun and different chat.

00:03:15.540 But all right, getting on to other things though, let's get on to what's got me wound up today and

00:03:19.480 got the ears steaming the things that I won't let go. So in any other country, it would take

00:03:25.820 a government down. In Canada, it's not even making the top headlines with legacy media outlets.

00:03:31.480 Right now, there's some pretty solid evidence that the Prime Minister's office may have directly

00:03:35.780 pressured rcmp commissioner brenda lucky to interfere with the active investigation into

00:03:40.820 the worst mass shooting in canadian history to score political points now some colonists out

00:03:46.500 there have taken up the cause and are writing on this scandal but many others are trying to direct

00:03:51.140 rage towards the faux scandal of conservative mps who offered parliamentary tours to some

00:03:56.420 activists it's the journalistic version of shouting hey squirrel in hopes of distracting the public eye

00:04:01.540 from an issue they don't want to gain traction other reporters are busy offering fawning coverage

00:04:06.660 of prime minister trudeau as he tours africa and dodges questions on the scandal this is the sort

00:04:12.260 of journalism that subsidized media buys with the government dangling hundreds of millions in tax

00:04:17.460 subsidies in front of media outlets and of course subsidizing the state broadcaster for the tune of

00:04:21.620 1.4 billion dollars a year there's little appetite among the media outlets to upset the apple cart

00:04:27.300 the liberal government has created a system where media outlets have to apply and be accredited

00:04:31.540 As official, with this nebulous closed-door committee,

00:04:35.000 if an outlet isn't considered to be an official media outlet,

00:04:37.140 they won't qualify for the myriad of subsidies and handouts.

00:04:40.600 With the rules for qualification not being clearly defined,

00:04:43.440 media dependent on these handouts are pretty motivated to avoid annoying a government

00:04:47.500 lest they suddenly lose that accreditation.

00:04:50.380 Just as a side note, the Western Standard applied for accreditation,

00:04:52.980 and we were accepted, by the way.

00:04:55.800 We then refused the applications for the subsidies.

00:04:58.440 We just wanted to see if we could do it.

00:04:59.680 we won't give away our independence for handouts. This method, though, of keeping the media in line

00:05:04.780 appears to be working like a charm. If such a disgraceful scandal as prime ministerial

00:05:10.240 interference into a mass murder investigation were breaking 10 years ago, the prime minister

00:05:14.700 would be swarmed with reporters at every stop and they'd be demanding answers. The issue would top

00:05:18.860 every headline and an independent inquiry would be struck into the matter within days.

00:05:23.700 Today, we're seeing a little outrage expressed on Twitter and a few columns cutting into the issue.

00:05:28.040 that's about it. If Trudeau slithers out of this scandal, as he has with many others,

00:05:32.860 he'll continue on his authoritarian path of controlling media and information.

00:05:36.940 C-11 and C-18 are still quietly moving through parliament, and if they pass, Canada will be

00:05:41.700 second only to nations like North Korea and China as far as government control of information in

00:05:46.140 the media and on social media are concerned. Academics like Michael Geist have been ringing

00:05:50.480 alarm bells on this government effort to control information and discourse for years, but a meek

00:05:56.360 legacy media will barely talk about it. Just think of the ramifications. If this story

00:06:01.500 that only reaches the third tier of legacy media attention right now, like

00:06:05.800 what this is leading to, senior RCMP officials have stated that while the 22 bodies of the victims

00:06:12.180 of the Nova Scotia mass shootings had barely cooled yet, the commissioner of the RCMP was

00:06:16.180 bypassing communication protocols, apparently on the behalf of the prime minister's office.

00:06:20.720 She was pushing for the early release of evidence to the public in the investigation in order to

00:06:25.800 helped Trudeau push some gun control legislation he was cooking. She very well could have damaged 0.56

00:06:31.020 the investigation, and at the very least, she should resign. As it stands right now, Commissioner

00:06:36.420 Luckey is still comfortable in her job, and the Prime Minister just said, no, I didn't have anything

00:06:40.960 to do with it, and he's moved on. Since he's hiding overseas right now, MPs can't question him in

00:06:45.020 Parliament, and Canada's pathetic legacy media corps aren't working terribly hard to put the

00:06:49.200 questions to him either. If Justin Trudeau skeets past this scandal, much of the reason will be due

00:06:54.340 to a broken media environment. It also indicates that virtually no scandal can take this guy down.

00:06:59.540 Just think of what sort of governance we can look forward to with Trudeau confident in the

00:07:04.020 knowledge that he's politically invincible. It's scary, guys. If this doesn't take him down, what

00:07:09.480 will? What will? 22 murdered Canadians, and they pissed around in the investigation of it for

00:07:15.200 political gain. And as far as you can tell on the news, it never even happened. All right, enough of

00:07:21.620 Let's get on to the newsroom where we do cover those issues.

00:07:24.900 I know the Western Standard covered this, and I'm sure not letting it go.

00:07:27.580 How's it going, Dave?

00:07:28.600 It's going well, Corey.

00:07:29.760 I blame Toronto.

00:07:30.840 I blame the people of Toronto for, you know, they just keep electing liberals, and that's the difference.

00:07:37.740 If you won't fire them, then what do you expect? 0.93

00:07:40.260 They're just going to get all the more arrogant. 0.93

00:07:43.180 Exactly.

00:07:44.080 Anyway, we've got some major news breaking at the moment, Corey.

00:07:47.420 We've got our Rachel Emmanuel has confirmed that Michelle Rempel-Garner will not run for the UCP leadership.

00:07:56.060 And one of the reasons that she's not running is because of Rachel's story earlier this week

00:08:02.500 that 13 of 17 caucus members who were asked whether or not they should give her a special exemption said no, they didn't want her.

00:08:11.500 So she knew, it looks like she knew she was coming into a divided caucus and has chosen not to go down that path.

00:08:19.740 So major, major news on the UCP front.

00:08:23.340 Speaking of the Trudeau investigation, he came out of hiding in Africa tonight, tonight over there, and basically said nothing to see here.

00:08:32.680 Move along.

00:08:33.740 We didn't interfere.

00:08:35.360 And I've got all the confidence in the world in Brenda Luckey.

00:08:39.080 So, yeah, as you say, Corey, another one goes by and nobody bites the dust.

00:08:46.440 We've got all the details on the Pope's visit to Alberta, which is coming up very quickly next month.

00:08:52.900 Details on his arrival times in Edmonton and where he's traveling around the province and who he's meeting with.

00:08:59.300 And he's going to be conducting an open air mass at Commonwealth Stadium.

00:09:02.420 So that'll be a highlight of his trips, I'm sure, as well as meeting Indigenous and residential school survivors.

00:09:11.780 The cowardly police chief of Uvalde, Texas, has been placed on administrative leave.

00:09:19.260 This is after he ordered his officers not to go in and try and get the school shooter there.

00:09:26.680 Instead, they waited outside for 70 minutes while the shooter slaughtered 22 children and teachers.

00:09:35.960 We've got a column from a UCP candidate, Danielle Smith, talking about some of her campaign promises,

00:09:45.760 saying she just wants Alberta to be treated like Quebec, basically.

00:09:52.100 What else have we got, Corey?

00:09:53.900 uh apparently there's going to be major thunderstorms and possible tornadoes uh this

00:10:00.460 evening early afternoon and evening in saskatchewan and manitoba so our chris old corn out there has

00:10:05.940 done a story on that and uh everybody be careful out there and uh coming up we've got a couple

00:10:11.600 good stories uh the swearing in of uh our governor our governor general who uh you've been talking

00:10:18.240 about Corrie for wrapping up or racking up that massive catering bill on a flight to Dubai.

00:10:25.140 It turns out her investiture cost taxpayers $170,000. That's a lot of little appetizers 0.99

00:10:33.480 and finger food, Corrie, and Canadian Taxpayers Federation is not happy about it. And one of the

00:10:40.120 things Trudeau announced today in Africa is he's going to give $250 million of taxpayers' money

00:10:46.080 to sort of a food campaign to make sure hungry people in other countries are getting their proper food.

00:10:56.180 So that's what we've got at the moment, Corey, and lots more to come this afternoon.

00:11:01.040 There is. I know it's busy in that newsroom.

00:11:03.380 Well, I appreciate the updates, you know, and on a sad note, that other one, I don't know if we covered that,

00:11:09.120 but that gorilla passed away.

00:11:10.780 Right, yes, I'm sorry, I should have mentioned that.

00:11:12.620 the young female gorilla had aggressive form of liver cancer and they made, yeah, the poor thing

00:11:21.620 passed away at the zoo last night. So sad day at the zoo and a sad day for all fans of the zoo.

00:11:30.420 Yeah, it is. And it's always a popular area. Well, I guess we all get taken eventually, but

00:11:35.860 well, we report on the good news and the bad. Good and the bad and sometimes the funny.

00:11:40.680 That's right.

00:11:41.540 All right.

00:11:41.900 Well, thanks, Dave.

00:11:42.620 I'll talk to you a little later.

00:11:44.080 Take care, Corey.

00:11:45.220 Great.

00:11:45.820 That was Dave Naylor, our news editor in the Western Standard Newsroom.

00:11:49.500 And yet, just lots and lots on the go.

00:11:51.300 You know, side note, almost some inside stuff.

00:11:53.100 For those, if you don't get the newsletter already, you should sign up for it.

00:11:56.000 And we were stumped, or Dave was stumped, like, what's going on?

00:11:58.680 There's a whole bunch of stories.

00:11:59.660 Didn't make it into the newsletter this morning.

00:12:02.900 And it comes in people's email and gives them all those headlines and stories.

00:12:05.460 Well, didn't know why.

00:12:06.740 And then we realized we'd put out so many unique stories yesterday that it actually was more than the newsletter was designed to handle.

00:12:14.200 It was like over 40 stories posted.

00:12:16.300 I mean, it blows away the other media outlets.

00:12:18.380 We've got reporters across this country reporting on these things, getting unique content and putting it up there all the time.

00:12:24.280 And the reason we can do it, by the way, the newsletter is fixed now, is because you guys have subscribed.

00:12:30.240 So to those who have subscribed to us, thank you very much.

00:12:33.240 That's what keeps us independent.

00:12:34.200 that's what keeps us from, you know, dancing to the prime minister's tune on national issues as

00:12:39.420 we're watching the legacy media outlets doing right now. I mean, it's got to be humiliating,

00:12:45.420 to be honest, you know, to be some of those, because there's some good journalists out there.

00:12:48.500 There's some investigative ones. They really would love to dig into this, but they're probably

00:12:52.900 getting orders from above. Yeah, don't shake that tree too much right now. We can't afford to get

00:12:58.360 in trouble. So let's just kind of let this one slide into the background. We won't do that. We

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00:13:36.800 Come on, have some fun. All right, so let's see what else we got going on. Yeah, we have the

00:13:44.580 gorilla. You know, Michelle Rimple, Dawn, I believe was, Cheryl Dawn was pointing that out,

00:13:50.400 and I kind of agree. You know, this dipping the toe in the water for the leadership of the

00:13:55.300 UCP. I don't know how serious it ever was. Uh, as this is said, she'd gotten herself into a mess

00:14:01.920 with that, uh, Patrick Brown campaign. I mean, that campaign was going ugly. It's going off the 0.99

00:14:06.540 rails. It's always been a weird campaign and, uh, mostly just seems to be there to shoot at Polly

00:14:12.000 of a likely almost a possible stocking horse campaign, but she hitched her wagon very directly

00:14:17.320 to it. And, uh, this gave her a way out, you know, this way, well, I've got to resign all these

00:14:21.740 positions because I'm considering a run for the UCP. And now she's gotten herself extricated from

00:14:26.060 all those ties to the Brown campaign. It's, you know what, come to think of it, I'm not going to

00:14:31.240 run for the UCP either. So now she's just back to being an unencumbered member of parliament,

00:14:38.760 you know, with the opposition party. Where she'll go from there, who knows? She's been a difficult

00:14:44.220 politician to pin down over the years. You know, I mean, she's unpredictable. I guess that's 1.00

00:14:49.920 refreshing with some of them that are just, you know, dull as dishwater, and you can pretty much

00:14:54.600 anticipate everything they're going to do. But all the same, just another weird move out of

00:15:00.820 Michelle Ripple-Garner. And I think I'm with Cheryl on it, that I think it was just planned

00:15:05.780 to get her butt out of the Brown campaign so she can not go down with that ship. Because 0.98

00:15:11.200 the votes that are going to come in for Brown, we'll see when this leadership goes. I just

00:15:15.480 strongly suspect they aren't going to be anything terribly outstanding. But yeah, you know,

00:15:21.780 Kitty Melcontent, it's an interesting name there. One of the commenters saying, always shocked at

00:15:25.280 the PM and his scandals. We still believe the premise that we have a parliamentary democracy.

00:15:30.240 Well, we kind of do, but it's kind of like Dave said, you know, we got to get off our asses and 0.99

00:15:36.000 vote. And I know it's not so much us, it's Toronto, it's Montreal, it's lower mainland BC, but what 0.93

00:15:42.540 does it take to have the shine come off of this fake, shallow, authoritarian prime minister

00:15:51.060 we have right now? I mean, he's brutal, you guys. He's brutal. And they just won't let 0.90

00:15:56.340 him go. I mean, this isn't a left-right issue. People on the left and the right were horrified

00:16:03.340 by that shooting in spring of 2020. Like, oh my God, 22 people were murdered, gunned

00:16:10.700 down pointlessly. This is an investigation at that time, definitely the most important

00:16:16.740 active investigation in the country. I mean, this is critical. We want to get to the bottom of this.

00:16:21.140 I mean, with some of the communications things that were going on, and this is coming from

00:16:24.980 senior police officers and these officers, their reputation, there's other officers,

00:16:31.080 the past police commissioner, RCMP commissioner has come up and said, these guys are of integrity.

00:16:36.140 And they said, one of them said, this is a quote, 100% Lucky was doing this on behalf of the Trudeau government to help them with their gun control legislation.

00:16:47.040 She was messing around with the communications just hours after they'd shot the shooter out there in Nova Scotia.

00:16:53.480 So, I mean, this investigation is still hot as all get out.

00:16:55.720 They don't even know for sure at this point.

00:16:57.040 If there's not more shooters, they don't know what's going on.

00:16:59.660 And she's out doing press conferences off to the side, breaking protocol, interfering with an investigation. 0.98

00:17:06.980 And again, at the least, she should be fired.

00:17:11.040 But there should be an inquiry.

00:17:12.560 What the hell is going on?

00:17:14.020 This isn't a minor case of interference into an investigation.

00:17:18.100 This could have caused some very, very serious damage.

00:17:22.480 And the media, like I said, I can see Trudeau trying to spin and brush it off and others.

00:17:27.640 But the media on this is treating this as if it's not a big deal.

00:17:31.580 As I said at the start of the rant,

00:17:33.180 that this is how, in most countries,

00:17:35.380 this would take a government down.

00:17:38.060 I mean, this would be the end for them.

00:17:40.340 I got a feeling Trudeau's going to come back

00:17:41.880 for his latest little globe-trotting tour,

00:17:43.780 and this will be forgotten over the summer.

00:17:46.260 Nobody will pay. 1.00

00:17:47.400 At worst, Brenda Luckey might get thrown under the bus, 0.98

00:17:51.620 but the only way that'll happen is if it stays alive,

00:17:54.680 if it stays in the scroll, if it keeps dogging them.

00:17:56.700 I don't see indications that it will.

00:17:59.480 As I said, there's certainly some columnists and a few others expressing rage over this,

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00:19:20.300 All right. Here's a beauty to get some things going. So Teresa Tam, Dr. Tam, everybody's 1.00

00:19:28.040 favorite federal health authority doctor there. She did such a good job in this last three years,

00:19:35.260 such an outstanding job. She made so many Canadians happy. She had such a solid grasp of

00:19:40.360 the pandemic, really got our confidence. They've decided to reward her with a 22% raise. Yes,

00:19:46.780 I didn't stutter. Tam has gotten a 22% pay raise. So that brings her up to $324,000 a year.

00:19:56.840 This is the woman who told us to use Kleenex to ward off infections. You know, this is the one

00:20:04.680 who told us to mask and then not to mask. Back and forth. Again, speaking of people appointed by

00:20:10.060 Trudeau, well, there's the reward, guys. Here you go. Have a 22% raise. The rest of us are tightening

00:20:15.720 our belt. We're getting the crap beaten out of us by inflation, not to mention many, many other 0.71

00:20:21.240 challenges going on out there. And Theresa Tam has gotten herself a 22% raise. I mean, 0.99

00:20:30.700 they raised by $59,000. A lot of Canadians don't even make the amount she got in a raise.

00:20:38.980 Nice, nice work if you can get it. So yeah, go home happy today as you wonder how you're going to

00:20:45.720 pay your bills knowing that, yeah, senior bureaucrats who do such a crappy job as TAM

00:20:50.420 are getting raises. But we've reported that before, you know, the Canadian Mortgage and

00:20:53.320 Housing Corporation. I mean, on average, all those civil servants have been getting like over 12,000

00:20:58.020 in bonuses. And there's hundreds and hundreds of them. Just to respond to a commenter, SRT Bull

00:21:04.940 saying, is Paul Heyman coming on the show today? No, somebody put out a mistaken tweet. I do have

00:21:09.640 Paul Heyman coming on the show tomorrow. He will be on and we will talk because, yeah, there's some

00:21:14.400 Some pretty serious issues brewing within the Wilder's Independence Party right now.

00:21:17.760 It sounds like they've got some heavy-duty internal challenges and fights going on between Paul and the leader of the party, Paul Hyman, and their board of directors.

00:21:29.460 So I'm going to talk to Paul about that, and I may have Rick Northey from there, too, coming on after Paul, just to try and get to the bottom of what is going on.

00:21:36.560 because if there's nothing alternative and new small parties want to do, it's in-fight.

00:21:43.380 And I know it all too well from my time with the Wildrose Party.

00:21:48.560 Yeah, getting back to Tam, you know, like, wow.

00:21:51.940 She recently, you know, Tam, she acknowledged she underestimated the infection rates.

00:21:57.540 And then just it's one error after another.

00:22:02.720 This government rewards incompetence.

00:22:05.540 competence. It rewards lackluster performances. What it really is, is they reward loyalty. As

00:22:13.520 much as Tam didn't bring about the confidence of Canadians, as much as she didn't manage the

00:22:20.120 pandemic well, she stayed loyal to Prime Minister Trudeau. So they make sure, well, we'll grease

00:22:25.660 your palm. Don't worry. We'll make sure you're covered. We got your back, Ms. Tam. And there

00:22:30.420 we go. So there's that raise. And I'm sure, well, I think they signed her to another three years

00:22:33.900 contract. So yeah, we're not going to get away without seeing her smiling face greeting us on

00:22:40.760 TV screens for at least three years at this rate anyways. So yeah, this is where we're sitting.

00:22:51.260 Let's see, this is a federal line. Let's talk about the feds, you know, again,

00:22:57.000 it's the saying, you know, don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining.

00:23:00.740 Well, that's pretty much what they're doing. But again, it seems to keep working.

00:23:03.900 So they're calling it a search for truth.

00:23:05.940 This is the feds and their response.

00:23:07.340 This is from the eternally general David Lamedi, the C-18.

00:23:11.340 That's one of those federal bills, the ones that wants to control information.

00:23:14.600 It's the Online News Act.

00:23:16.920 And it would basically allow the heavyweights.

00:23:20.180 You see, this act will really benefit the big ones, the establishment media, the legacy media.

00:23:25.480 And then they can strong arm revenue from Google and Facebook and things like that.

00:23:31.400 So, yeah, they're calling this a search for truth. I mean, what a load of crap. I mean, 0.99

00:23:38.420 this is the federal government controlling, trying to control media even further, as we're seeing

00:23:43.700 with the media basically looking the other way on what should be the scandal of the century with

00:23:48.020 Justin Trudeau's possible meddling in an active mass murder investigation. And it worked for

00:23:56.200 them. It works. So, and Brenda, please quit putting CCCP over again and over and again. You

00:24:03.220 made your point, but I don't like the comment scroll being spammed. Thank you. So either way,

00:24:08.600 they're feeding us BS. This legislation's going. As I said, there's some indication that the Senate

00:24:13.620 might stand up. That's the only kind of hope we've got is that the Senate, they did stand up on Bill

00:24:21.240 S7. Maybe they're going to stand up on 18 and C11. I saw that coming up. There's people lining up

00:24:30.440 to fight at the Taxpayers Federation and some others getting ready and hopefully get that

00:24:34.180 Senate to be active. See, there might be a chance of pushing some of this down. Jet Gorgon saying

00:24:39.880 his user content, our comments. Yeah, it's interesting. I don't know. I mean, they really

00:24:43.940 want to control discourse and discussion all over the place. And these guys, they just lie.

00:24:50.880 They lie right to our faces, but the reason they do is because it works.

00:24:54.700 So, I mean, yeah, Lamedy's saying freedom of expression protects speakers as well as listeners.

00:24:58.960 What? Wait a minute.

00:25:03.060 What? Protects listeners. Freedom of expression protects listeners.

00:25:08.680 See, that's where they get to. That's where they start setting these bars,

00:25:12.140 these arbitrary bars on how they're going to infringe on our rights, freedoms, and speech.

00:25:17.240 So that's when they start saying we've got to protect the listeners.

00:25:20.140 Free expression protects listeners, again, but they want to protect the right to not have your feelings hurt.

00:25:25.620 They want to protect the right not to be offended.

00:25:27.480 That's the terms they want to use.

00:25:30.020 Just like Twitter, for example, will, I've only been suspended from Twitter twice, for example.

00:25:37.700 And, you know, it's a playground I'm rough on there, I've been.

00:25:41.100 Both times it's because I misgendered. 1.00

00:25:43.120 It's because I referred to that crazed transsexual person out in Vancouver who was trying to force people to wax her balls at esthetician places on the coast. 1.00

00:25:58.020 And of course, they wouldn't do it. 1.00

00:25:58.860 They were not geared to wax men's genitalia, and she was putting the screws to them. 0.55

00:26:06.340 And I tweeted a couple of times and referred to her as a he, and I got suspended.

00:26:10.700 Now, you know, I try to be polite, actually, if somebody wants to identify whatever way, and I will refer to it.

00:26:17.840 But should I get shut down just because I've misgendered?

00:26:21.320 I mean, all that, why?

00:26:22.780 Has it offended you?

00:26:24.140 Well, if it offended you, block me.

00:26:26.400 Don't have me kicked off of a social media platform.

00:26:29.680 Because all I said was something that's offensive.

00:26:32.000 It wasn't inaccurate.

00:26:33.880 It wasn't inaccurate.

00:26:36.300 And, but you get pushed down.

00:26:39.400 Now, I don't think a private, this gets complicated.

00:26:42.060 A private outfit like Twitter, well, it is private.

00:26:43.820 They can do whatever the hell they want.

00:26:45.300 You don't have to have me on there.

00:26:47.120 But we shouldn't be protected from hearing things that might hurt our feelings.

00:26:50.700 Or at least it's not the state's place to protect us from that.

00:26:53.100 If you don't like it, listen elsewhere.

00:26:57.860 It's just like recently I saw some story, I'm not sure where it was,

00:27:00.340 but the police were called and they followed through and called some comedian

00:27:04.060 because somebody got offended in the audience. 1.00

00:27:06.920 Well, don't go to the damn show. 0.99

00:27:09.780 But this keeps feeding these control freaks. 1.00

00:27:12.480 This keeps feeding these busybodies.

00:27:14.020 It keeps giving them the feeling, and perhaps they're right,

00:27:17.860 the ability to come up with things like C18 where they can control everything you get to see,

00:27:22.260 every platform where you get to communicate, and every way you can talk.

00:27:26.540 And narrow it down to a narrow number of media outlets,

00:27:31.760 and they can control the messaging that's going to go around out there.

00:27:35.220 So listening to this guy talking about C18 as if this is protecting us,

00:27:39.100 is saying this is better. Spare me. This is a solution in search of a problem. The only problem

00:27:45.320 is there's been open discussion critical of the government. There's been media that's been outside

00:27:50.860 of their narrow box. It's been critical of them. It's been exposing them, and they don't like that.

00:27:56.760 But you know what? It's working. It's working. As I said, I got up today. I go through all the

00:28:02.600 news stories. I go through the headlines. I mean, there's reporting on this scandal of potential

00:28:08.680 interference into a criminal investigation by the prime minister's office.

00:28:13.360 But it's like the fourth story down. It's not the headline. They got other pap and crap up top.

00:28:19.880 This should be on top of the headlines until there's an inquiry and find out what the hell's 0.95

00:28:24.500 going on. But the media, no, they're doing as they're told. And they want to bring in these

00:28:31.260 laws even further, drive it even deeper and take away your ability to hear. So it's waiting study

00:28:37.200 now from the Heritage Committee. Heritage, you know, again, that's where they want to control

00:28:42.980 and protect your blessed ears. This is heritage now. This is where we have to regulate it. So

00:28:47.660 people cover it. That's where they talk about you have to have a certain amount of Canadian

00:28:50.240 content and things like that. It's garbage. It's all just utilizing ways to control information. 1.00

00:28:58.340 And I don't know if it's going to get stopped. And you know, and following up in the next story,

00:29:03.520 speaking of fake news. This is here. Freeland's claim was false. There's a shocker. A senior

00:29:09.800 cabinet minister from Justin Trudeau's government was spreading baloney. Jeez,

00:29:14.320 that's almost unheard of now, isn't it? But yeah, she claimed that taxpayers will likely recover, 0.92

00:29:22.500 likely, that's the word she used, billions spent on the Trans Mountain pipeline. And apparently 0.91

00:29:27.100 the budgetary office said, nah, that's not so true. But it doesn't matter. They just lie. They

00:29:32.520 throw it out there and they don't get called on it. They, you know, the media, again, they just

00:29:36.980 let it slide off. They're not critical of them, at least not the legacy media. So, but the budget

00:29:42.760 office report, what a mess they've made, right? So they're saying that, let's see, the best case

00:29:50.860 scenario, the government's going to lose $600 million with the Trans Mountain pipeline expansion

00:29:54.900 whenever it's done.

00:29:58.360 If it's halted, though,

00:30:01.160 there's already $14.4 billion sunk into it.

00:30:04.940 That's something that the budget office is also seeing.

00:30:08.100 Like, it's amazing how badly the government

00:30:10.140 has screwed up this expansion.

00:30:12.980 It's outrageous.

00:30:14.240 It's outrageous. 0.96

00:30:14.960 We had Kinder Morgan happily wanting

00:30:18.220 to put private dollars in there,

00:30:20.200 build that pipeline.

00:30:20.940 It wouldn't have cost you a nickel as a taxpayer 0.97

00:30:22.920 If the government had gotten out of the damn way, that thing would already be flowing. 0.95

00:30:27.360 It would be going. 0.98

00:30:28.060 And look at this.

00:30:28.640 Look at the world oil prices.

00:30:29.940 The whole country would be benefiting by expanded sales of our resources to a world that's desperate for energy.

00:30:37.060 And this thing's still, that picture that Nico just posted of it with these pipes laying all over in the mud and the trucks is about right.

00:30:43.720 I mean, it's in progress, but agonizingly slowly, way over budget.

00:30:48.720 It just keeps costing more and more.

00:30:50.360 And not a single drop has gone through that thing.

00:30:52.380 And this isn't even a new pipeline. This is an expansion of an existing one. The Trans Mountain

00:30:58.080 Pipeline has been pumping oil safely since the 50s through that whole area. They're not even

00:31:03.600 cutting new bush. You know, they're going to widen the right away a little and lay it right next to

00:31:07.480 it. And this lunacy, this anti-pipeline bullshit that's constantly going on from activists and 0.97

00:31:13.500 others, and I'm sick of it. You know, I worked in the oil field for a long time. Your average 0.99

00:31:17.220 urban citizen doesn't even know what a pipeline looks like. They don't realize how many out there.

00:31:23.260 They don't realize how safe they are. Get out there. They walk in the bush. They cross a big

00:31:28.020 cut line. They don't even know they just walked across a major pipeline. Wondering, you know,

00:31:32.360 when they're walking their dog in the city and they got a big, long, winding parkway that's

00:31:37.340 narrow. Chances are, look around when you cross a fence or something. There's probably a sign

00:31:41.900 you're probably walking on a pipeline. Pipelines aren't evil, guys. But they're sure costing us a

00:31:48.040 fortune as we do mountains and mountains of regulation and paperwork and applications and

00:31:53.400 pandering and consultations. How many consultations did we really need? Look at the

00:32:00.080 root of the Trans Mountain line. Once you get out of Alberta, and most of Alberta is through farmland

00:32:05.700 and private land, and the owners are, again, it's an expansion of an existing line. They'll get paid

00:32:09.680 for it. They're fine with it. Then you get into the mountains in BC. There's nobody living within

00:32:14.560 miles of most of this thing. A lot of the areas that go through, yes, absolutely. There were First

00:32:19.920 Nations communities nearby. Those First Nations communities were not adversely impacted by the

00:32:24.140 main line for the last 60 years. This wasn't going to hurt them either. But here we are with this

00:32:30.800 thing still mired, half built, laying out there. There's people working on it. They get terribly

00:32:38.540 upset. I mean, yeah, Brian says he works in the batch. And yeah, the average Joe has no idea out

00:32:42.340 there. No. And they get upset. They're saying we're working on it. We're doing it's going to

00:32:47.380 go. Okay. I know it's not your fault on the ground, guys. But this thing, my God, we might

00:32:52.660 actually get to the green transition by the time this pipeline is actually finished. If such a

00:32:58.060 thing exists, and won't have anywhere to sell it. Just if this government wants to do something,

00:33:03.640 they'll do it. They will. I mean, they wanted to clear out the protesters in Ottawa. They were

00:33:09.760 willing to suspend civil rights for individuals in order to do it. And they got it done. They 1.00

00:33:15.100 hammered it through. Well, then why can't they just put their foot on the gas? This damn pipeline

00:33:18.880 is going to be built. Here we go. We're putting the money in. There's been enough applications, 1.00

00:33:23.700 talk and BS going on. I don't care about a potential hummingbird on 20 feet of trees that

00:33:29.540 could fly back in and avoid the whole thing and just get the damn thing done. And they won't. 0.98

00:33:37.180 They won't. They're terrified. I don't, I've said it before too, and I'll say it again. I won't

00:33:42.880 believe this thing until I see it. Until there's product in one end and out the other. And the

00:33:50.260 pressure keeps coming on. Every time we get these releases from the budgetary office and stuff like

00:33:53.620 that, the environmentalists are saying, shut it down, shut it down now. I despise it when they try

00:33:58.540 to play business people. Look at it. It's not economical. Look, if it wasn't, there wouldn't

00:34:02.460 have been private companies wanting to do it in the first place. The only thing that made the

00:34:06.560 pipeline unviable was the damn government and the permits. And then you see the problem is, 0.99

00:34:13.080 while the government pissed around and stared at their feet and messed around with this pipeline,

00:34:16.520 a whole bunch of all those applications that were already done, all those studies, that cottage

00:34:20.520 industry of HSE maggots who just create more and more burdens and more and more paperwork and more

00:34:26.360 more legislation expires. They always put expiry dates on those things. Then you got to start the

00:34:32.320 whole process over again. Meanwhile, nothing's getting done. Ah, drives me bananas. And I tell

00:34:38.620 you, yes, it's those safety guys, it's the HR guys, it's the bureaucratic minded people. They're

00:34:43.820 in the oil companies and outside of them as well. But the oil companies respond by pandering to

00:34:48.160 legislation rather than standing up for themselves. Push back and say that's enough. HSE, safety

00:34:54.620 regulations. You know, let's talk about bureaucracies that kill efficiency in construction and oil 0.98

00:34:59.320 field. I mean, it used to be when I started in the field, yeah, you know, 30 years ago,

00:35:06.800 you would have a safety meeting maybe once a week before we go to the field. We get together in the

00:35:11.960 hotel and talk over a few issues, some pressing things, and go on. By the time I left, I mean,

00:35:17.220 I did an Arctic contract towards the end where we had a meeting every morning with 100 guys packed

00:35:22.560 into a big room in the center of the barge camp out in the Beaufort Sea for 40 minutes every day.

00:35:29.600 How much was this costing to have every employee all standing around for 40 minutes

00:35:34.580 to talk safety? You know what? Working in the Arctic isn't terribly complicated.

00:35:41.020 There's a lot of dangerous things up there. Absolutely. And you want to make sure that

00:35:46.480 the messages of safety are repeated, but there's still only so many guys. It's cold.

00:35:52.560 there's polar bears. You know, there could be thin ice. Follow your maps where the ice

00:35:58.040 profiling's been. Don't speed, you know, basic common sense things. 40 minutes a day, 100 guys

00:36:06.220 for 100 days. What did that cost on that project? For what? To tell us that it's cold outside in

00:36:11.880 the Arctic. But that's what these safety guys do. The paperwork is insane. And this sort of

00:36:17.840 bureaucracy goes top to bottom in the whole oil field and energy sector. And the environmental

00:36:26.960 aspect is just as bad, just as bad and just as ridiculous. So, you know, we had a program I did 0.69

00:36:34.860 for Shell. Boy, I would never want to work for those guys again. We actually had to have, this

00:36:38.720 was a heliportable program. We're on foot, we're in the mountains. And every one of us had to have

00:36:44.120 one of these idiotic biologists tagging along with us all day. These chunky, weak, marshmallow-y 1.00

00:36:50.640 students, because these weren't big-time graduates who are at a high level. They just got picked up

00:36:56.400 by Shell. And they would slow us down because there was one area we weren't allowed to work

00:37:00.960 because this ding-dong said, there's wild onions growing here. We don't want to crush those when 0.58

00:37:04.720 we put the drill down and set the dynamite. It's a wild onion, guys. It's not in danger. I said no.

00:37:09.800 So he wouldn't sign off on it. We have to move. The stories have no end to how stupid it's getting. And for what? In these pipelines, things like that, you wonder why when, I mean, it's bad enough when the private industry has allowed this sort of mentality to get into them that badly. But now the government is running this program. So of course, they've just packed on even more regulation on top of regulation.

00:37:33.980 I can't imagine how bad it's got to be. What kind of meetings do they have in the morning

00:37:40.120 before starting on the Trans Mountain line? It's not moving an inch, guys. We've got to get real.

00:37:47.440 But either way, they're just standing there and talking in circles and acting as if they're going

00:37:51.680 to recoup the expenses on this thing. So, I mean, look at this. The cabinet budgeted $17 billion to

00:37:57.420 buy and get that thing done. Right now, the costs are estimated at $26 billion. This is just in a

00:38:02.780 few years. Only government can manage to blow it that badly, knock it out of the water.

00:38:10.140 And who knows what it's going to cost by the time they ever actually finish it, if they finish it.

00:38:16.020 But we need a government with backbone. We need some spirit. I don't know why the left just won't

00:38:22.020 get on board with this. You know, they've embraced this crazy cult of environmentalism and understand

00:38:27.560 And if you really want all these social programs, you really want this massive health care system, public education, all of these things, you know, addictions, treatment centers, you name it, the money's got to come from somewhere.

00:38:41.800 And guess what? We're sitting on some of those best resources on the planet.

00:38:45.860 We got trillions worth of oil and gas in this country.

00:38:48.900 If you want all those programs, you should want this oil to be getting to market and gas. 1.00

00:38:54.240 These idiots have no clue. 1.00

00:38:55.940 It's like in BC too, that, oh, we're going to go all electric. 1.00

00:38:59.000 We're going to ban natural gas from the city for heating and cooking.

00:39:02.120 And we're going to legislate electric vehicles all over the place.

00:39:07.080 And as we do so, we aren't going to build any alternatives.

00:39:11.600 The disaster is looming so hard because the environmentalists are fighting everything.

00:39:15.340 I mean, Site C Dam, for example, it's in northern BC.

00:39:18.180 The environmentalists are fighting it tooth and nail.

00:39:20.460 Pure renewable energy, hydroelectric energy, emissions-free energy.

00:39:24.340 And guess what?

00:39:25.260 The left doesn't like that either.

00:39:27.100 Can we go nuclear?

00:39:27.780 No, they don't like nuclear either.

00:39:29.900 Well, we're running out of options, kiddies.

00:39:33.000 We're running out of options. 0.97

00:39:34.040 How are we going to pay these damn bills if he won't allow us to do anything? 0.98

00:39:38.020 And the financial outlet's looking bad. 0.98

00:39:40.500 By the way, our outlook, I should say, you know, I should say I've been rambling for a while.

00:39:43.940 The reason is, yes, my guest no-showed on me.

00:39:45.880 It was supposed to be Todd Lohan.

00:39:46.860 I don't know what happened to him.

00:39:49.020 Ah, this has been a hell of a week for that, guys.

00:39:50.700 I'm batting 1,000 on it.

00:39:51.680 I think it seems in the nice weather, our guests tend to allow themselves to be distracted

00:39:55.580 and not show up for scheduled interviews at times, but it's a frustrating thing.

00:39:59.600 So I'll just talk about some more news.

00:40:01.340 If you have another guest in 10 minutes, we'll talk to him about some things.

00:40:04.680 But yeah, I'm not sure what happened to Mr. Lohan.

00:40:06.740 I hope we can track him down and find out later.

00:40:10.300 Either way, let's see.

00:40:12.260 We got a retirement crisis in the works.

00:40:14.680 This is a survey that was done.

00:40:16.200 and uh it says more canadians are facing challenges to save retire for retirement

00:40:22.080 securities inflation soars and markets decline a survey has found yeah you know this shouldn't

00:40:26.600 be a shocker this is one of those cases of reporting the obvious and uh inflation kills

00:40:33.760 retirement savings i mean if your money is in dollars and that dollar loses purchasing power

00:40:40.080 you're pretty much hooped inflation the ones that it hurts the most are people on fixed incomes

00:40:44.500 people who get that very modest, uh, Jet Gorgon say, where are your guests? Corey? Yes. Thank

00:40:48.920 you, Jet. And they keep those comments and questions coming. I got to keep talking and

00:40:52.540 I'm happy to. And I, I love the inspiration on hearing from you guys because we can carry this

00:40:56.100 show on and, and do things. So I'll talk a little bit more finance on this thing with retirement,

00:41:01.440 because there's a lot of people, again, it's predominantly the life of people who don't

00:41:04.440 understand money and people who are economically illiterate. And we got a lot of them. Unfortunately,

00:41:09.360 they're in our government right now. And the anti-profit thing. So we're listening to the

00:41:17.180 craze left right now. Of course, they're all shooting at the energy sector. Look at these

00:41:20.100 massive profits of the oil companies. Look at how they're gouging us. Look at how they're screwing

00:41:23.720 us. Look at the money they're posting right now with these oil companies. You know, they didn't 0.83

00:41:26.620 say a peep two years ago when those oil companies were losing billions of dollars. No, suddenly

00:41:30.600 there's nothing there. Guys, if they're going to lose billions of dollars for a few years,

00:41:34.260 they have to make it later. But the other thing that gets to me is the people who don't understand

00:41:39.220 corporations and who owns them. Like these people are saying, oh, look at these profits. Like they

00:41:44.340 think they got this mental image that there's five or six, you know, Scourge McDucks that are

00:41:48.700 swimming through money bins and billions and billions in dollars in oil profit. And that's 0.72

00:41:51.940 what happens with it. It's just a whole bunch of money goes to a handful of people. It doesn't

00:41:55.180 work that way. These are publicly traded companies and they got shares in this. Who do you think

00:41:59.520 owns most of the shares? It's pension plans. Why do you think your pension grows? I mean,

00:42:05.440 if there wasn't invested into something, your pension wouldn't grow. Your plan, whether it's

00:42:08.920 a private one or whether it's CPP or just your own savings in the bank, if they can't invest that

00:42:13.780 money into something to get some earnings on it, it won't grow. So they invest in companies like

00:42:20.080 oil and gas companies. And when those profits come in, they make your pension plan get bigger.

00:42:25.800 And the only way your pension plan has a slim hope of keeping up with inflation is if those

00:42:31.240 companies can make some profit and make your plan grow. So these idiots, and they are, they're 1.00

00:42:37.280 idiots or say, we've got to rein in and cap the profits of these companies, or we got to 1.00

00:42:41.860 nationalize these companies, or we've got to knock these companies down. Don't understand 1.00

00:42:46.500 that they're actually shooting themselves in the feet, that that's not doing themselves any favor.

00:42:53.860 I mean, they love the call of follow the money. Fair enough. You know, it's a call that can make

00:43:00.080 some sense, but it's often just vacuously thrown out on minor unrelated issues too. So if you

00:43:04.820 really want to follow the money for corporate profits for these oil company profits, particularly

00:43:09.440 here in Western Canada, follow it up the way through the shares, and you'll probably find that

00:43:15.060 it's tied into your own pension savings. So if you want your pension savings to stay flat and not be

00:43:22.580 able to keep up with inflation, then by all means, let's cap the profits on the oil and gas companies

00:43:28.260 that are operating in Alberta and Canada right now and actually making money right now. But they

00:43:34.160 don't think that far ahead. They don't. You know, they don't look into it. They just take it for

00:43:39.960 granted that your savings and your pension are going to grow. They won't do so, as I said,

00:43:44.660 without investment. It's not magic that makes these things grow. It's not unicorns. It's

00:43:50.640 companies that make profits that these plans have invested in. One of the best pension plans in all

00:43:56.620 of Canada, and I've always liked to, you know, kind of twist the knife and bug some people on

00:44:00.260 that a bit, has been the Ontario Teachers Pension Plan. It's huge and credit to them. It's great.

00:44:05.100 Good on you guys. You put that money aside and you invested it wisely. But it's funny because

00:44:09.520 the Ontario Teachers Union loves taking all these anti-corporate stances and environmental stances

00:44:15.300 and virtue signaling stances as a union. Yet they're one of the most major oil and gas

00:44:21.840 shareholders in North America. They own loads of shares in these oil companies. They own shares

00:44:26.240 in asbestos companies and coal companies. I mean, they're pure hypocrites when it comes to it. I mean, 0.98

00:44:32.540 why aren't you guys investing in nothing but green funds? Well, it's because they don't pay off worth

00:44:35.700 of crap. So again, they do understand where their bread's buttered. So I'll give them credit where 0.99

00:44:41.160 it's due there. But I guess when it comes to people saying we've got to knock down these

00:44:45.700 oil company profits and everything, and I understand, I mean, it's hitting everybody.

00:44:49.960 And it's hard for people who have to commute to work and pay those gas prices, paying your utility

00:44:54.000 bills. It's putting a lot of pressure on people. And if you're not looking deeply enough, it can

00:44:58.700 seem pretty offensive that, wow, I'm scraping by trying to figure out how to buy my groceries.

00:45:02.820 And here's this company posting billions of dollars in profit. I can see why on the surface

00:45:07.720 that would make somebody pretty upset. But look a little farther, guys, because the controls to try

00:45:12.100 and stop that will damage you in the long run a heck of a lot more than what's happening right

00:45:17.700 now. We've got a screwed up economy. We've got a lot of problems going on right now. But look a

00:45:21.660 little harder. Some of the calls, like I said, right now to do things like nationalized energy

00:45:26.620 companies. Well, it didn't work very well in Venezuela, guys. I assure you it won't work well

00:45:30.380 here. Let's just try to get some better policies so that everybody can to enjoy some of these

00:45:36.780 profits and the high employment and things that are coming with us in Western Canada

00:45:39.720 with a strong, profitable energy sector. Don't shoot at it, guys. You're benefiting from it,

00:45:44.960 even if you don't know it sometimes. So, okay, I do have a guest in the lobby. I think I'm going

00:45:51.100 to move on to him pretty soon, but I'll speak to one of our sponsors before we get to Dr. West,

00:45:54.900 and that is the Canadian Shooting Sports Association. Speaking of other issues that

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00:47:08.820 All right, let's get on to something lighter, but still kind of important. And I've been looking

00:47:11.820 forward to this conversation. It sounds like quite a fun exhibit and I will be taking it in.

00:47:16.880 And there's also a lot to be learned from these kinds of things.

00:47:20.300 And that's the Museum of Failure.

00:47:22.280 And this was formed by Dr. Samuel West, and it's touring around.

00:47:26.760 It's going to be in Calgary on July 1st.

00:47:28.540 I think they're setting up by South Centre Mall.

00:47:30.180 I'll get that confirmed.

00:47:31.580 And you can go and take this in.

00:47:34.240 It's a fun day out and educational.

00:47:36.240 I love museums.

00:47:37.280 We don't pay enough attention to them.

00:47:38.860 So let's bring Dr. West in and see what this is about.

00:47:41.340 Hello, Mr. West.

00:47:42.120 Hello.

00:47:42.960 Thanks for joining us today.

00:47:45.360 Thanks.

00:47:45.740 Thanks for having me on the show.

00:47:47.520 so i i guess i should start and i'll let you go more but you know i'm a museum of failure i mean

00:47:51.680 what you're doing you're not celebrating failure you're documenting it i guess so we're learning

00:47:56.560 from it uh well i mean we have to differentiate failure so there's bad failure and good failure

00:48:02.960 the bad failure is in because of incompetence because of insubordinance it's because of people

00:48:09.920 not following instructions so those are the failures that should not be celebrated not

00:48:15.440 accepted the type of failures that we celebrated the museum the failure is failure when it's done

00:48:21.040 in the name of progress so when you're pushing the boundaries of the envelope testing a new

00:48:26.800 way of doing things uh testing out new technology a new idea that's when you fail and that's the type

00:48:33.360 of failure we should be celebrating yeah well it's like a toddler for example is going to have

00:48:37.600 to fall down dozens and dozens of times before they learn how to walk absolutely absolutely

00:48:43.440 they learn with each one. But you point out some very interesting ones. And I'm a vintage,

00:48:49.200 I remember some of them. I mean, the new Coke, for example, people who lived through the 80s,

00:48:54.640 remember so much celebration of it, I guess you could say in promotion. And you would think this

00:49:00.720 is one of the Coca-Cola was one of the largest corporations on earth at the time. They got to

00:49:04.720 have some of the best and brightest marketing minds out there. And they put out a product that

00:49:08.800 was just a complete flop yeah with what they it was in the early 80s the uh pepsi was the underdog

00:49:17.840 and pepsi had this brilliant marketing uh uh strategy where they would ask people to take

00:49:24.720 it's called take the pepsi challenge and they would give people little plastic mugs with coca

00:49:29.680 cola and pepsi and ask them to taste it blindly people would taste and go oh i like this one

00:49:34.880 better voila it was pepsi now coca-cola was a bit worried about that that consumers like pepsi

00:49:41.840 better so they did their own research uh and found out that people actually like pepsi better than

00:49:47.200 coke and so they changed as the story goes they changed this the original secret iconic recipe

00:49:56.080 of coca-cola to make it slightly sweeter which is what pepsi is and they called that new coke

00:50:03.440 and it flopped completely because people hated it they hated that that coca-cola would change their

00:50:12.000 beloved recipe or their beloved coca-cola um it was a total fiasco for coca-cola in the short term

00:50:18.880 but because people were so worried about their favorite classic coke disappearing they hamstered

00:50:25.680 the coke so coke actually sold more than they did otherwise so it's kind of one of those weird

00:50:31.840 failures that was somewhat economically successful well yeah i do remember the next thing they came

00:50:37.760 out with rather quickly was coke classic here it is the classic you can come back to it but exactly

00:50:43.360 that's why if you look if you if you look at a can of coke today you'll see that it says coca-cola

00:50:49.360 classic that's because of new cook yeah and they really pulled in i guess they're real brand

00:50:55.040 loyalists so the people who truly did love their coke i mean they were really sticking to it after

00:50:58.800 that but it was an inadvertent victory i guess absolutely the the executives at coca-cola said

00:51:04.880 afterwards quoted saying because of the success of the relaunch of coca-cola classic

00:51:10.560 uh they said they were asked uh so did you do was all this uh did you do on purpose like is it an

00:51:16.160 a elaborate you know a ploy to a marketing ploy and then the cook executives said we're not that

00:51:23.040 smart. At least they're being honest there. And I know that that one came up kind of recently in

00:51:29.280 pop culture. My daughter watched that Stranger Things series. It's set in the 80s and they

00:51:33.760 referenced that. And she was asking me about like, what the heck happened? What was this

00:51:37.100 new Coke thing about? And I had to explain it to her because it was prior to her time.

00:51:41.020 Absolutely. I mean, so that's an example of a product from like a food product. There's a lot

00:51:47.120 technology products uh google glass they had wearables that totally failed so products from

00:51:54.000 apple we got some weird stuff uh i just uh one of the one of the favorite uh items is a face mask

00:52:03.200 it's a it's a plastic face mask you put on your face and it gives your face electric shocks and

00:52:09.120 the spokesperson for this uh product is what was no other than linda evans from the hit show dynasty

00:52:16.880 so it looks like something from a horror film oh there you've got it all kinds of the the the

00:52:24.720 tech failures i've tried in the collection to not only have tech stuff but to have you know medical

00:52:32.160 failures we have cars we have a delorean ford etzel um obviously a lot of tech stuff because

00:52:40.160 that's where most of the innovation is happening um the insoles going back quite a ways but that

00:52:46.400 was named after ford's son i believe yeah um the attribute but it turned out in the worst possible

00:52:53.120 way yeah do you know why it failed i don't yeah i mean there's multi it's a it's it was a huge

00:52:59.600 failure it was like one of the biggest failures in american industry at the time um so ford

00:53:06.080 they reluctantly innovated because he forward wasn't much for innovation they can take any

00:53:11.040 color they like as long as they take black that's the the ford standardization yeah

00:53:16.800 uh so uh the ford edsel was a huge undertaking for uh for ford and they

00:53:22.880 there was a lot of innovation they changed you could uh uh you to change gears you would press

00:53:29.520 buttons in the steering wheel for example um the design was uh revolutionary and different

00:53:36.720 but keep keep that image on the screen there because what ultimately killed it was that they

00:53:42.880 took the grill and they turned it vertical rather than their normal horizontal and remember this was

00:53:50.640 in the 50s in the united states uh people commented that they thought that the grill looked like

00:53:57.200 female genitalia and and uh in no way would they drive by a car like that so something so innocent

00:54:07.360 or like you you could never anticipate this uh turned it into a flop it wasn't the only reason 0.72

00:54:13.680 it flopped but that was one of the reasons that's certainly what i hadn't heard of but i mean i guess

00:54:18.560 particularly the 50s the age of the the muscle cars with the flames going down that some might

00:54:23.200 be feeling it's a phallic substitute then i guess you don't want to see anything that implies

00:54:28.000 anything otherwise it's funny i i think it's a funny it's a it's a it's a it's a humorous reason

00:54:34.960 for a multi-million dollar failure and i imagine the lot was learned from that i mean other car

00:54:41.600 companies were clearly watching this very closely i mean it's a very competitive market and learn not

00:54:47.280 to at least repeat that mistake but you mentioned the delorean though that was tied to a bunch of

00:54:52.000 you know cocaine trafficking scandals with john delorean oh you know about the cocaine

00:54:56.400 trap scandals that was his eccentric personality yeah yeah so uh but that was a different automotive

00:55:03.520 failure but the delorean um i mean the main reason it failed is because it was a crappy car

00:55:10.720 um but if you look if you look at a little bit more in detail uh the the the cars were manufactured

00:55:18.320 in northern ireland ireland in a ship at a shipyard like the the workers at the factory had

00:55:24.880 never built a car so because of tax subsidies and other other reasons incentives they decided to

00:55:31.840 build the delorean there and i mean without with zero experience in the car building industry

00:55:37.280 there was no way that they could create quality cars in that factory that was one of the major

00:55:42.480 reasons the delorean failed otherwise the car looks awesome i mean it's super cool it's it stood out

00:55:48.560 with that uh you know sort of unpainted uh stainless yeah and the gulf wing doors that you

00:55:53.600 open like yeah it's pretty cool but i mean so i mean some of those you can see where they tried

00:55:58.960 and they had things but i mean as you said others are sort of those what were you possibly thinking

00:56:03.760 like you know it just seems a lay person could even look and say how did you think that might

00:56:07.600 work yeah that's yeah look at it and say that's never ever ever gonna work we have one called the

00:56:12.400 juicero um the juicero is it was from 2016 17. uh it was it's a juice press and it's this massive

00:56:22.720 700 us dollars uh a juice press that's connected to the internet of course as all juicers should

00:56:30.000 be right um and they silicon valley loved it because it was such a cool device and you subscribe

00:56:38.560 to a bags of chopped fruit and so you would these chopped fruit bags would come home and then you

00:56:44.880 would put them in the in the this fantastically over designed uh a juicer and it would press

00:56:51.040 out the juice now there you go there it is would press the juice out with a huge amount of force

00:56:56.880 to get out all the minerals and all the vitamins and flavors well silica valley went crazy and then

00:57:03.360 they sold quite a bit of them actually at 700 bucks plus each eight to nine bucks a bag

00:57:12.000 anyway in 2018 17 18 there bloomberg news relaunch released a video on youtube where

00:57:21.360 somebody just takes the bag and squeezes it with their hand and out comes an entire glass of juice

00:57:28.240 it destroyed the company almost overnight. I mean, why do you need this expensive

00:57:34.240 design thing when you can just squeeze it with your hand? And for me, it's a reminder. And it's

00:57:40.800 a super, it's a fantastic example of Silicon Valley's ability to create elegant, sophisticated,

00:57:47.520 expensive solutions to problems that do not exist.

00:57:51.360 Yeah. Well, and just one more to hit on those for talking maybe a little more about your museum

00:57:56.000 itself in the concept though and getting a bit more contemporary though was google glass like

00:58:00.000 i i kind of remember when they were announcing it was coming up i thought this sounds kind of

00:58:03.280 interesting this could be cool and it's google i mean boy they got some big minds and money behind

00:58:08.320 but that one again was another catastrophe yeah i think it's at 2012-13 i was also excited about

00:58:14.800 i i remember thinking i'd do anything to get my hands on a google glass but they were quite

00:58:19.760 expensive and you had to be specially selected to be whatever early early consumer of that the

00:58:28.640 problem with google glass was there was there was a lot of problems but one of the main problems was

00:58:33.520 there was absolutely useless there was no there was no use for this awesome technology it was

00:58:40.400 the first real wearable with a screen built into the glasses voice commands um recording uh it was

00:58:48.480 awesome but when you don't have any utility you couldn't do anything with it so it kind of fell

00:58:55.120 it failed on that note most importantly uh it failed because google didn't appreciate the

00:59:01.120 privacy issues so i mean they're basically they're basically a spy device connected to the to

00:59:07.840 internet and people i mean it looks awesome and the technology is awesome but google totally

00:59:15.040 underestimated how people would react to the privacy issues and in fact there were signs

00:59:20.080 outside of cafes in in in san francisco it would say uh no dogs you know can enter and then it also

00:59:28.560 have no glass holes that's what people that use google glass were called glass holes um not so

00:59:37.120 cool google totally uh failed on this one yet ironically you know a few years later i mean

00:59:42.720 people realize that a person could be holding up their phone and recording or taking pictures at

00:59:46.720 any time and i think people have just learned to get more guarded with what they're doing

00:59:51.520 i don't know if they i don't know if the privacy issues would be as much of a problem today because

00:59:56.400 today it's either apple or google that owns all your data so you you don't really have a choice

01:00:01.920 anymore but at the time in 2013 it was a real concern yeah so getting to to the museum itself

01:00:09.360 like what inspired you to put this together? It must have taken quite some time to get this many

01:00:14.320 exhibits and things like that and have it on the road like this. I started it in 2017 and it's based

01:00:22.320 I was doing research in organizational psychology on how companies can boost innovation and one of

01:00:29.360 the biggest obstacles to innovation is was and still is the fact that people are afraid of making

01:00:36.080 are failing so both you know individuals and even organizational teams are afraid of taking

01:00:42.240 meaningful risks where they risk failure so the museum was born out of that frustration of how can

01:00:48.480 i communicate to to my clients and through my research that it's really how important it is

01:00:55.120 to take these meaningful risks and how inevitable failure is if we want progress so the idea the

01:01:03.040 idea for the museum of failure actually i i got it i stole it from another museum

01:01:09.440 well it's innovative yeah you steal stuff from others no it was i i was inspired by a visit to

01:01:16.560 the uh in southern the mediterranean uh country of croatia they have a museum called the museum

01:01:24.320 of broken relationships and uh i just thought that was such an awesome museum it's so crazy and

01:01:31.520 you know abstract and i thought if they can do that i can do a museum of failure well yeah and

01:01:36.960 i mean quirky museums can be fun too one we have here in alberta is the in a small town is the

01:01:41.760 gopher museum we've got a little i love it and uh decided with a taxidermist bent they actually had

01:01:48.720 hundreds of these gophers and people created little outfits for them and so all right all right i that

01:01:54.560 that sounds like an awesome museum yeah it draws a lot of visitors to an otherwise kind of

01:01:59.680 insignificant prairie towns yeah i love it i didn't even know that existed that's that's fantastic

01:02:06.400 yeah so i mean yours also as you said it has a bit of an educational component i mean failure

01:02:11.040 doesn't have to be considered a negative thing it's a step yeah hey gopher museum if you're

01:02:16.160 watching this uh contact us we want to we want one of your failed go taxidermy taxidermy gophers in

01:02:23.920 our museum in calgary contact me if i'm on it's the torrington gopher museum i think it's just

01:02:29.600 about an hour and a half out of town while you're out here so sorry what was your question i was

01:02:33.600 obsessed with the golfer museum oh i already forgot the gopher museum is pretty easily distracted

01:02:38.320 but i guess that i have to i have to get this in uh the aim of the museum is still to teach to help

01:02:45.360 us understand and appreciate why we have to accept failure because there there won't be any innovation

01:02:51.280 there won't be any progress in any aspect of of of life business uh uh arts in any way if we don't

01:02:59.440 accept the the the risk of failure uh when we experiment and explore so there's a it's a fun

01:03:05.360 museum but there's a really serious uh uh uh sort of red thread throughout the entire exhibition

01:03:12.800 yeah i mean you want to avoid failure that's always your goal but don't look at a failure as

01:03:17.280 an end it could be just considered a step towards something better exactly well great so i mean it's

01:03:22.400 it's set up it's going to be itself center is this a freestanding thing outside of it or is

01:03:25.840 there space within the mall that you guys have uh set up within oh why do you ask such difficult

01:03:30.480 questions um it's connected to the mall and it is accessible through the mall but it's i i haven't

01:03:37.520 seen the the the the venue yet but it's in the mall i'm pretty sure you can get it through it

01:03:43.600 uh through the mall great okay is that a good enough answer or it is i mean people will find

01:03:49.760 it and i'm certainly yeah yeah there's big banner if you're there you won't miss it yeah my viewers

01:03:55.840 know where south center mall is or most of them you know it's on the south side of calgary off

01:03:59.760 mcleod trail there it's a sizable facility so i mean i'm looking forward to it i really will have

01:04:05.600 to make a point of getting out there on a day okay so i just want to because i you know i don't want

01:04:11.040 it to be too easy for you so when you visit i'm not gonna i'm not gonna tell you now but when

01:04:17.360 you visit there are two specific canadian failures that we added just for calgary uh so your job is

01:04:26.640 to find those okay well yes i don't want spoilers we still got to have some discovery there and

01:04:32.880 you have you know a hundred and some out there we only cover a few i mean people want to discover

01:04:37.280 and enjoy them in person so and that's it's gonna be running for I believe a

01:04:43.160 few weeks at least it's coming in on July 1st is it July 1st and it runs about

01:04:49.280 two months oh two months okay so check check it out I think the exact when it

01:04:54.800 closes not been confirmed yet so yeah no no problem at all so I so where can

01:04:58.700 people find information on the museum and your your work then dr. West yeah

01:05:03.260 uh check out museumoffailure.com and for sp that's more about the museum in general and there's some

01:05:09.980 examples of the of the items on display and then for just specifically for calgary uh you click on

01:05:17.260 calgary and you get to the the ticket sales uh page with more information about opening times

01:05:21.820 and all that excellent well thanks for coming on to talk to us about it dr west i was looking

01:05:27.580 forward to it and you didn't disappoint so thank you so much checking the museum out and i hope

01:05:34.140 lots of other folks do as well thank you so much bye bye so yes that was dr samuel west of yeah

01:05:40.780 the museum of failure i mean the name says it all and uh you know something a little lighter and hey

01:05:46.060 so it's going to be there for it sounds like almost a couple months it's things to do you

01:05:48.860 know i mean not every day is going to be sunny you want to get out check some stuff out and i

01:05:53.660 I like kind of the negative, positive messaging

01:05:56.340 at the same time, right?

01:05:57.160 Museum of Failure, that sounds about as negative as it gets,

01:05:59.880 but look at it as you learn from these things,

01:06:03.480 you pick up from it.

01:06:04.940 And it might not be the person who failed who learned,

01:06:06.700 maybe somebody else looks at it and says,

01:06:08.120 oh, I see how that's screwed up, but I can do better.

01:06:10.420 And sometimes they do.

01:06:12.340 So I saw one of the commenters,

01:06:13.460 I believe he's an American, 0.99

01:06:15.380 so I didn't want to pull him in on it, 1.00

01:06:16.540 but I had to fight a bit of a laugh.

01:06:18.460 Cliff commenter, Cliff Burkhard saying,

01:06:21.640 when will Trudeau be included in this museum? Yeah, I wish he was already. I like to think

01:06:26.880 at some point or another, he will be included in that. Unfortunately, as I was kind of ranting

01:06:31.240 about before, Trudeau is still going strong and I'm not sure what the hell is going to get rid of

01:06:37.840 that guy. But yeah, so many of those interesting things, you know, I mean, I don't know how many

01:06:42.660 others. I saw something about a, looked like a phone attached vibrator or something like that.

01:06:46.900 I guess if it's done right, I could see how that'd be profitable, but I don't know. And something

01:06:51.500 i meant to mention was beta you know if people remember going all the way back there was vhs and

01:06:56.060 there was beta for anybody who wanted to watch movies and it's you hear from a lot of tech

01:07:00.460 geeks or tech geeks of the 80s like beta was far superior way better everything else but they just

01:07:05.500 couldn't market themselves well enough and it's kind of one of those areas where there was only

01:07:08.700 there could only be one and vhs took way off and and it dominated there were a lot of other things

01:07:13.900 video discs and things that came around once this this new concept of bringing you know movies into

01:07:18.860 your home outside of having an actual film projector or just hoping that the right one

01:07:23.100 came on tv and uh betamax yeah it went down the the tubes i mean vhs is pretty much gone now too

01:07:29.020 but it managed to have a good couple of decade run before it went so i don't know if that's in

01:07:33.740 the museum or not and as uh dr west said there's going to be a couple of canadian presentations

01:07:39.020 there which probably won't be uh trudeau at this point but uh maybe down the road that was a good

01:07:44.700 good fun chat. You know, it can't always be all politics and everything else. And it can be a

01:07:48.560 learning thing. I like that message. I like, I really do. If you're going there with your kids

01:07:53.220 or grandkids, or just even for yourself and think about that. Hey, these failed, but it's a good

01:07:57.780 life lesson for kids. Hey, if you failed at this, it's not the end. It's a step. It's a, you know,

01:08:02.840 you can do better. You can move up. So it's, it's a museum with a message. And the gophers,

01:08:08.020 well, themselves, they failed. They just weren't fast enough getting out of the way of the trap 0.91

01:08:11.160 or the 22 shell or whatever was coming at him.

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01:09:09.940 Let's see here.

01:09:11.380 Eight track from Brian Deraz's.

01:09:13.560 Yeah, that's the way to go.

01:09:15.020 Nothing like your song stopping halfway through.

01:09:17.600 But I mean, eight tracks,

01:09:18.460 that was a big innovation for vehicles.

01:09:20.260 Think about that.

01:09:21.000 When did they come out?

01:09:21.840 The end of the 60s, early 70s?

01:09:24.520 But I mean, you were a slave to radio

01:09:26.840 until the eight track came, right?

01:09:28.500 Like everything else, you'd have to play record,

01:09:30.300 but you certainly couldn't drive and listen to a record.

01:09:32.320 With an eight track cassette,

01:09:33.920 you know, those great big old things,

01:09:35.240 you could slam that in there.

01:09:36.180 and I think you had, what, four or five different songs

01:09:38.380 you could kind of push button your way around to.

01:09:40.800 That was a big innovation, you know,

01:09:43.000 and then the cassettes came along, and then CDs.

01:09:45.880 You know, it seems one of our biggest innovations

01:09:47.340 is just changing ways where you can listen to music.

01:09:50.700 The Walkman was a huge one.

01:09:51.980 These weren't failures.

01:09:52.940 These were just things that came along,

01:09:54.740 and there had to be some fails on the way, I imagine.

01:09:57.600 LinkedIn user, yeah, that one doesn't show the person's name

01:09:59.800 with the LinkedIn viewer.

01:10:00.720 Sorry about that, guys, but it says,

01:10:02.300 you saw Betamac cassette once in the archive library

01:10:04.960 of fort steel of all places uh never actually watched one but uh fort steel wow i wouldn't

01:10:11.040 think they'd cover that down there that's down in a southeastern bc there it's a neat spot with

01:10:16.960 actually a a big uh grounds kind of like heritage park in calgary and things like that neil zockel

01:10:22.240 saying quadraphonic eight track yeah all of us older watchers and viewers now we're all running

01:10:26.080 through our heads and thinking of all those things that came and went but uh that'd be fun i think

01:10:29.760 think for some of the younger visitors to hit that museum too, you know, and just see some of

01:10:35.360 these things that we oldsters talk about and they never had to live through it. So they don't know

01:10:38.680 what the hell we were speaking of. Well, they can see some examples at that museum there and look

01:10:43.260 at those things. And you know what? Another good day trip since I brought it up is for those who

01:10:46.700 haven't heard of it, the Torrington Gopher Museum. Yeah, there's little dioramas, gophers and little

01:10:50.820 outfits. I mean, there was a lot of work for the people up there to sew those little clothings and

01:10:55.260 put them on. I mean, it's morbid for people who don't care much for taxidermy, but it's a pretty

01:10:59.620 unique experience. And hey, I mean, come on, who the hell ever talked about Torrington that much

01:11:04.200 before the Gopher Museum came around. So there's lots of things to do in Alberta. I was running

01:11:08.400 that limited budget these days, you know, and there's only so much you can do. Some of these

01:11:14.060 day trips and things you can find locally to entertain yourself over the summer. These, some

01:11:19.380 of these museums and things like that. Brian Daris, oh yeah, I remember hair in a can. That was, I

01:11:23.880 remember those ads so well. They show those balding ads. I'm sure I got the head for it now, you know,

01:11:27.740 and they'd just spray that on and it would fill in and apparently look natural. Of course, I guess

01:11:32.400 if you went out in a rainstorm, you were going to have the black streaks coming down your face as

01:11:37.660 the hair in your can melted. But I don't know if that was a fail. I think a lot of guys took

01:11:43.800 them up on that until maybe some better options came around. All right, let's get on some politics

01:11:50.020 and news again. And what do we got? A federal research unit detected what might be a Chinese

01:11:57.260 Communist Party information operation that aimed to discourage Canadians of Chinese heritage from

01:12:02.200 voting for the Conservatives in the last federal election. This one's interesting. So, you know, 0.99

01:12:08.400 we talked, I mean, the BSers in the government, you know, and the state broadcaster to the CBC,

01:12:13.780 they had to retract that when they're implying, you know, Russians were funding the truckers

01:12:16.800 convoy and lots of people are saying, oh, this is all an American initiative and all that crap. 0.99

01:12:20.600 And it was a load of crap. It was all grassroots gun fundraising for the most part and everything 0.99

01:12:24.240 behind it. But something that really has been happening by the sounds of it in foreign 0.53

01:12:28.360 interference is the Chinese were trying to influence voters in Canada in favor of the

01:12:34.620 liberals. And kind of makes sense, doesn't it? I mean, Trudeau, among his many, many, many weak 0.95

01:12:40.840 spots, China is one of them. He's always had a blind spot there. He's always been soft with them.

01:12:45.960 Well, how direct is that? You know, we got the Chinese, even if this was happening without 1.00

01:12:50.880 actual collusion with the Liberal Party or Trudeau. It's showing that the Chinese government

01:12:55.880 knows, though, that this is a better government to have in power for themselves than the other one. 0.64

01:13:00.560 So they were willing to mess around with and try and change our electoral outcome for, you know,

01:13:07.040 in a foreign way. I don't, as with Trudeau's other scandal, unfortunately, do not expect the

01:13:13.520 Liberals to dig that far into this potential scandal. And they will just hope that it goes

01:13:18.880 by the wayside uh something of a good news story and dave brought that up in the newsroom the other

01:13:22.880 day uh you know one of those credit where do stories and it's to do with the museum again so

01:13:27.240 some of us might have been hearing about that crazy i talked to our reporter in bc read small

01:13:31.320 about that the other day this royal bc museum they're going to close the existing one tear it

01:13:36.540 down and spend it i mean the number was just astronomical to rebuild a new one they were

01:13:41.600 talking like up to a billion dollars or something and it was going to take uh 800 million or

01:13:45.500 something, you know, with government budgets, it was going to be much longer. And it was getting

01:13:49.340 more and more controversial for one, because the reason to get rid of the old one wasn't so much

01:13:53.720 that it was out of date and so on, though it's older, but was that it was colonial. The woke

01:13:59.500 were getting upset. They felt it represented too much of the old times. Well, that's what a

01:14:04.320 frigging museum does. You know, I mean, if I ever get the chance to go over and see Vlad the 0.95

01:14:11.260 Impaler's old castle in Romania there, I think it'd be an interesting tour and thing to observe. 0.91

01:14:17.820 It doesn't mean I want the world to be loaded with Impalers again, or that I celebrate what 0.99

01:14:22.220 that sadistic, nasty man did back then. But we don't have to tear down everything that 0.97

01:14:27.660 represented somebody who was pretty nasty and evil in the past. Not to mention, I don't think

01:14:32.360 the colonialism of North America, particularly Canada, was nearly as evil as the woke like to 0.60

01:14:36.220 keep making it out to be. Either way, that false premise, essentially, to try and tear down that

01:14:40.720 Museum, and build the new one. Finally caught up to the

01:14:44.340 government, the polls, the rest. Everything else we're

01:14:48.640 finding out that most BC citizens wanted no part of this

01:14:51.440 like this was terrible low support. And it's where the

01:14:54.680 credit where due part comes. John Horgan came out and said,

01:14:56.840 it's done. We're not doing it. We've pulled the pin. We've

01:15:00.120 listened to the public. We misread it. And in his own words,

01:15:04.080 he said, I've made the wrong call. And he's backing off on

01:15:10.800 Good on you.

01:15:11.800 Good on you.

01:15:12.400 You know what? 0.99

01:15:12.720 We get way too many politicians who screw things up, right and left, who just, damn it, 0.95

01:15:18.420 I've dug in my heels now, and we're not going to back down on this no matter what happens. 0.54

01:15:23.500 And Horgan at least said, no, I'm going to do an about face on this.

01:15:28.840 I'm going to admit that I was wrong.

01:15:30.220 We're going to cancel this museum, back off on it, and move ahead with some other things.

01:15:37.920 So, you know, again, he's an NDP premier.

01:15:40.960 There's not many things I'll give him credit for.

01:15:42.460 I'm sure many BC citizens will still want him out of office.

01:15:45.860 But hey, the man did one thing that's right,

01:15:48.100 and we don't see enough of that from politicians and leaders.

01:15:50.540 It's just admitting, I screwed up, and I'm going to reverse my screw up

01:15:54.140 rather than stubbornly doubling down on an ideological trip

01:15:57.720 and screwing everybody.

01:16:01.360 Vlad, there's nothing I can bring up without it turning into debate 0.86

01:16:06.360 and controversy.

01:16:06.920 but that's okay. That's part of what's live. So Soneko says, Vlad did what he had to against the

01:16:12.280 Ottoman Empire. Vlad did nothing wrong. I can't even critique Vlad the Impaler without somebody

01:16:19.260 getting upset. Okay. Well, I won't go into the nuances of what the wars were in the area or who

01:16:25.200 was trying to invade or whatever. It was Vlad's techniques to try and hold off the invaders and

01:16:33.760 and things such as that, which as his name went was impaling. And he would put sharpened stakes

01:16:39.060 into the ground and basically put it up a person's butt and let gravity very slowly and agonizingly 0.79

01:16:44.260 take care of them. And I think I could be wrong. And maybe I, you know, my history might be 0.67

01:16:48.460 corrected. That's what the commenters are about. But he actually turned away an incoming army

01:16:52.600 because they came up and saw all of these dead and dying people lined up along the road on these

01:16:57.600 poles. And it was his own people. He was doing it to, to a great degree as well. And they're like, 0.55

01:17:01.520 this is crazy. This guy is scary. This is as psycho as it gets. I want no part on this. I'm

01:17:06.840 out of here. And they turned away. So it was an effective deterrent from invasion, but a pretty

01:17:14.620 horrific act in order to do so. That's what I'm going to get, but I'm not going to get into a

01:17:20.880 nuanced debate on whether he was good for the place as a whole or not, or what the politics

01:17:25.220 at the time where we got enough of our politics

01:17:28.160 at the current time to debate and go over.

01:17:32.140 Brad asking if there's any updates on the leadership race.

01:17:34.620 I guess the only update we have for now 0.99

01:17:36.280 is that Michelle Rempel is not going to run for it. 1.00

01:17:39.460 On the federal front, by the way, that's that reminder.

01:17:41.660 We have a debate that the Western Standard's hosting.

01:17:44.100 I'm glad for that reminder.

01:17:45.460 It's going to be at the Petroleum Center

01:17:48.220 or Petroleum Club, July 8th, three in the afternoon.

01:17:52.300 You're off work, come on down.

01:17:53.920 and you know for 25 bucks you can get in and there's only 300 seats so at least four of those

01:18:00.460 leadership candidates will be there it's a good environment to get a good discussion that's going

01:18:03.560 to be focused on western issues of course because it's a western standard debate and there's a

01:18:07.680 cocktail hour afterwards and such too where chances are you might be able to get face to face

01:18:13.600 and have some one-on-one time with some of these candidates because they'll hang around after that

01:18:16.680 debate and talk it's a better atmosphere plus you can get around some other western standard viewers

01:18:22.180 and followers, and the rest of us all be there, Derek and me and Dave and that, and Mel, and

01:18:26.740 ah, too many people to name nowadays with this place. Robert Duncan saying, is Pierre going to

01:18:31.540 be there? No, I'm afraid he's not. We want him to, and he's not. As for why, I guess you would

01:18:38.380 have to ask the Polyoff campaign. It can be tough getting, once they feel they're in the front 0.94

01:18:43.080 running, sometimes they want to stick to being careful and not necessarily get into those

01:18:47.060 environments. And as for Lewis, I believe it was, as Cheryl's asking, a scheduling issue. She just,

01:18:53.880 you know, we did, the date did change because what had happened is once Polly have dropped and

01:18:57.440 things had to get rearranged because it was going to be a bigger event. And then it was rescheduled

01:19:01.780 for one day later, but, or was it one day earlier? I can't remember. One day earlier. And

01:19:07.440 unfortunately, Lewis already had a commitment. She can't make it, but the other four will be

01:19:14.360 there. And it's still, it's going to be a good gathering. And as I said, the other part is it's

01:19:18.440 a social event. Get on down there. There's, you know, the rest of the Western Standard people,

01:19:21.680 followers, and more informal, you know, a cocktail thing afterwards and all that. So check it out,

01:19:27.000 westernstandard.news, and you can find the information to attend that debate.

01:19:34.620 Let's see a little more on the news stories. Again, on reporting, the obvious is a story I saw

01:19:39.600 police statistics find in Calgary that people don't feel safe and crime and safety are always

01:19:46.180 top of mind for residents. Well, I know we've been kind of screaming that here for quite some time

01:19:50.320 now. The only thing that surprised me are the stories police statistics show 8% increase in

01:19:57.400 violent crime in central Canada in the first three months of 2022. And I think that's over

01:20:02.960 the last five-year trend. The only thing that surprised me is that it was only that low that

01:20:06.440 it's increased because it's pretty insane on transit and downtown and it's bad. Maybe, you

01:20:14.460 know, there's some of the things, just statistics, a lot of it's appearance. There was a story I read,

01:20:19.360 who wrote that one? I think it might've been the Herald. I do a lot of reading, guys,

01:20:23.500 trying to keep up on these issues. And it was pretty in-depth and it was pretty good. It was

01:20:26.740 talking about a person standing on an LRT platform and they could see one who was punching a wall or

01:20:32.220 a building and another one yelling at the clouds and another one kind of aggressively coming towards

01:20:35.540 people. Nobody was actually harmed. So there was no violent crime that happened, but a very

01:20:40.760 intimidating and troublesome environment. So, I mean, a lot of those people down there, the

01:20:45.000 addicts and that are very, you know, it's not terribly common when they'll actually physically

01:20:49.780 assault people, but they have, and they've done it very badly, you know, to some individuals.

01:20:54.540 Overall, the actual violent incidents only, quotes only went up 8%. But I mean, hey, that's not,

01:21:01.700 that's cold comfort when you're staying on a platform and you've got these crazed out of

01:21:04.320 control people around you and moving all over the place. Brad asking my thoughts on removing the

01:21:11.260 transmission distribution fees. You know, that's getting into the whole electrical grid. Here's

01:21:15.340 one of the areas where I'm going to admit some ignorance. I follow those things and I watch them,

01:21:19.480 but it's such a complicated mess, the deregulation of electricity in Alberta that's been going on

01:21:24.960 and people fighting about it. It's Ralph Klein's days and the amount of fees we get, you know,

01:21:29.580 and transmission distribution fees, all those things on your bill that break it down. It is

01:21:32.980 so complicated. I think at any point anyways, removing fees just to get people, you know,

01:21:38.320 it's give them a break on energy right now. If the government's doing well on royalties,

01:21:41.600 help them out because they're having a hell of a hard time. And Tim Byrne saying they had to move

01:21:47.680 the platform on 8th and 8th by the crack max. For those who remember it, I used to live in the

01:21:52.900 Continental Towers, oof, boy, 25, 26 years ago. And crack max on 7th and 8th, it was known as that

01:21:59.500 back then. That's where the crackheads hung out. It was a rough spot in that little corner and

01:22:05.740 there was an RT platform. That's where a lot of the dealing happened. But every city has a spot

01:22:09.660 like that. And that's where you've got that nickname, Crack Max. I think it's Circle K now.

01:22:12.500 It doesn't roll off the tongue as well as Crack Max. But it was just there. You know, there was

01:22:18.480 like a two block area where it was a problem and you'd see the odd stray thing. What's different

01:22:22.200 now is it's everywhere. It's all over downtown. You don't have to go to just one platform or one

01:22:26.640 station. Yeah, they moved it. Now it's over between 7th and 8th. And still, it is a horror

01:22:36.540 story. The scene, the park that's right next to it. I walk by there every day. I walk by this

01:22:40.020 morning. There was a whole bunch of them in there, all in semi-different states of inebriation and

01:22:45.140 dealing and so on. It's right in the open. We got a hell of an issue going here. And it's not just

01:22:48.820 here. It's Edmonton. It's Toronto. It's Vancouver. So at least it's making more news now, though it

01:22:54.360 is so i mean that's i think some of the step towards getting changed people are you know our

01:22:58.140 city hall is still dodging it that story i read in the herald and the mayor gondek is as oblivious 0.94

01:23:02.620 and in denial and as stupid on this one as she's ever been i'll give it that some other people are 0.99

01:23:07.840 waking up gondek no she's doubling down she doesn't think that we need more policing she 1.00

01:23:12.120 doesn't think it's really a problem but she's really makes me miss nenshi and if people know

01:23:18.280 the relationship i had with nenshi during his almost 10 years in power understand what i'm

01:23:23.340 saying when Gondek makes me miss Nenshi. I really, if I had a chance to say, Nenshi, can you come

01:23:30.320 back and take over for the rest of this term? I would do it in a heartbeat because yes, I didn't

01:23:34.340 like the guy. I didn't like a lot that he did, but he still had a hell of a lot more gray matter

01:23:38.620 between his ears than Jody Gondek does. Cheryl Dawn asking about why are people saying not to

01:23:43.600 buy gas between July 3rd and 5th? I have no idea on that one. That's the first I've heard of it.

01:23:48.180 I don't know. If it's somebody talking about a strike, maybe, one of those consumer pushback

01:23:55.620 things, that happens now and then. Some people say, we'll bring the oil companies, their knees

01:23:59.220 don't buy. It never works. It never works. People need it. At worst, it'll be a tiny little

01:24:04.000 insignificant hiccup and change of use. Maybe it's people saying they have inside info on when

01:24:08.380 prices are going to go up or something, though. I don't know. But that one, I don't know anything

01:24:12.600 about. So maybe some others will. Gary Singh, you'll buy a CPC membership and vote for Roman

01:24:19.960 Babber. Yeah. And Roman will be there for the leadership debates. He's been really good. He's

01:24:24.100 been in studio here. Melanie talked to him in an interview. It went really well. He's very good

01:24:28.780 and outspoken. Nope. He's been on my show here before too. So yeah, you know, Brian Gutenberg,

01:24:35.020 that's another one. Legalizing hard drugs is too much swinging left. We're in for a country of

01:24:39.520 And yeah, I really want to study more on that.

01:24:41.700 I'm trying to reach out to more guests on it because it is just such a complicated issue.

01:24:47.600 You know, Portugal's done some of their things with decriminalization and different, but

01:24:50.760 there's more to it.

01:24:51.480 There's treatment options and things they incorporated.

01:24:53.540 It's a whole plan.

01:24:54.420 It's a bigger thing than just letting it go. 0.58

01:24:58.620 The other, you know, so Portugal did that and there's lessons to be learned that may

01:25:01.820 be good, may be bad. 0.93

01:25:02.580 But we look at Portland and it's a catastrophe.

01:25:04.820 I mean, 700% increase in overdoses since they decriminalized drugs there.

01:25:09.600 It's just gone totally out of control.

01:25:11.020 So that's a failure.

01:25:11.860 Let's learn from these things before we try them.

01:25:13.760 There's no easy answers, but we know some that are failed.

01:25:16.420 Let's speak in the museum of fail.

01:25:17.700 Okay, we looked over at Portland.

01:25:18.800 It failed.

01:25:19.980 So let's look at them and not do that.

01:25:23.960 And let's look somewhere where maybe it's working.

01:25:25.860 I don't think it's really working very well anywhere.

01:25:28.240 That's how hard this is.

01:25:29.500 There's no, I can't find any examples of cities that have done a really, really good job of

01:25:34.260 managing to get their addiction epidemic under control. I mean, some are doing worse than others,

01:25:39.760 but none of them are doing well. This is spreading everywhere. And that's why I want to see more

01:25:43.960 discussion and try and find ways we can improve this because it's getting worse and worse. And

01:25:50.260 there's no, obviously no easy answers. Damn, why aren't there more easy answers for things in life? 0.97

01:25:55.640 The only easier answer I found is some battles aren't worth carrying on. Learn how to put the 0.98

01:26:01.040 toilet seat down after using it. I know it's a minor thing, but it saves you so much grief later

01:26:06.940 on in life, guys. Don't die on that hill. See, sometimes there are easy solutions, but when it

01:26:12.880 comes to drug and crime, there aren't. All right. I'm going to wrap it up today, guys. I got a

01:26:17.880 couple of good guests on tomorrow, assuming they show up, and I'm certain they will. I'm going to

01:26:22.940 have Matthew Horwood. He's been actually reaching out, and he's been busy. That story has been

01:26:27.980 really taken off. He's our main bureau chief out there in Ottawa, and he's been asking people about

01:26:33.460 vaccine injuries. He's just been overwhelmed with the amount of stories and people getting back to

01:26:36.980 him. Check it out at westernstandard.news. You can see what he's been writing, and he's going to come

01:26:42.200 on and talk about that. I'm going to have Paul Hinman on. He's going to talk about a bit of what's

01:26:46.200 going on with the Wildrose Independence Party, and I think I might get Rick Northey, who's on the

01:26:50.860 board with them as well, to come on afterwards, so we'll get kind of both sides on what the hell's

01:26:54.200 going on because that party sounds like it's got some very serious infighting problems going on

01:26:59.320 right now. So thank you all for tuning in today, guys, and I will see you all again at 1130 a.m.

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