Western Standard - Triggered LIVE： Election time in Northern Alberta

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00:01:53.260 29th, 2022. Welcome again to Triggered. I'm still Corey Morgan, and we are coming to you from the

00:01:59.660 Western Standard Studios, which are on permanently seated territory in Calgary, Alberta, as per

00:02:05.320 Treaty 7. This is our live show, as it's been quite evident, that will come every day, 1130

00:02:11.600 Mountain Standard Time AM, Monday to Friday, because the news is always breaking and changing,

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00:02:29.060 me know how our sound is doing tell us what we can do better or what you want to see guest

00:02:33.520 suggestions are always welcome i got a couple of great guests today spencer fernando some people

00:02:38.920 may be familiar with him he's a columnist uh blogger he's out of manitoba and he went to the

00:02:44.140 protests out there in winnipeg and it's going to be good to you know you don't just don't hear

00:02:47.560 enough from that part of western canada kind of right in the middle there he's going to talk to

00:02:51.240 us about what's happening out that way in these crazy times. Then I'm going to have Wildrose

00:02:55.400 Independence Party leader Paul Hinman come on to the show. We're going to talk about Alberta

00:02:59.460 politics and he's running in the Fort McBury by-election. Yeah, there's a by-election happening

00:03:04.920 up there or pretty quickly anyways. And I'm going to talk a bit about that in my opening rant here

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00:04:07.680 more about them later. They are great. Okay, now what am I on about today? Politicians,

00:04:13.660 always somebody's favorite people, they love hiding from tough issues or deferring to deal

00:04:19.200 with them as much as possible. At least the weak ones do. Tough ones, they take challenges head

00:04:24.560 on, win or lose. The protests across Canada continue to expand in both scope and intensity,

00:04:30.520 while Prime Minister Trudeau avoids dealing with it as much as possible. He disappears,

00:04:35.540 he pops up maybe to throw out some insults, and then he disappears again. That's not leadership.

00:04:40.240 But you know what? This rant today isn't just about Prime Minister Trudeau's lack of leadership.

00:04:45.140 I'm going to go on about Premier Jason Kenney.

00:04:47.760 People can be forgiven for forgetting that the constituency of Fort McMurray-Laklabish is having a by-election right away.

00:04:54.800 The spot was vacated six months ago by Leila Goodrich when she went to pursue a federal seat in Ottawa.

00:05:01.240 Now, Premier Jason Kenney would very much rather you forgot about the by-election and forgot that it was happening.

00:05:06.460 And he's made a point of being about as quiet about it as possible.

00:05:09.360 You know, usually when you have an election, the leader of a party is going to be making noise about it to try and get supporters going out there.

00:05:15.860 Kenny's been dead silent on that, and you'd think they'd be eager to garner a new loyal UCP member in that seat.

00:05:22.300 Problem is, Brian Jean has other plans.

00:05:24.880 He handily won the UCP nomination for the seat, despite the best efforts of Kenny loyalists.

00:05:30.140 Jean ran on nothing aside from a promise to unseat Kenny as premier as soon as possible.

00:05:34.240 That promise proved appealing to a lot of members, and now he's won the nomination to run for the UCP.

00:05:38.960 He may very likely win that seat itself.

00:05:42.700 Now, Kenny can't wait any longer to hold the by-election.

00:05:45.480 The UCP waited the full six-month maximum before calling the race.

00:05:49.560 They haven't even actually called it yet, but they legally have to by this Wednesday.

00:05:53.620 They have no choice anymore.

00:05:55.060 So he waited until the bitter end.

00:05:56.700 That means that the by-election is going to conclude in mid-March.

00:05:59.680 News is going to be focused on Brian Jean's campaign and his possible win just weeks before

00:06:04.860 Kenny faces a review of his leadership by members in April.

00:06:08.600 The timing could hardly be worse for Kenny.

00:06:10.740 He's likely going to have a newly minted MLA within his own party

00:06:13.620 whose entire platform was based on opposition to himself.

00:06:17.060 It'll hardly lend a sense of strength or control to Kenny's already shaky caucus.

00:06:22.520 Now, had Kenny at least called the by-election earlier,

00:06:24.820 he could have avoided having the election results hitting the news

00:06:27.200 just before his own leadership review.

00:06:29.020 Of course, then he would have had a toxic MLA working within his own caucus 0.51

00:06:31.820 for that much longer.

00:06:33.280 Kenny's found himself between a rock and a hard place.

00:06:35.360 but hey, he put himself there. Look, I do want to give credit to Kenny. He had a good news night

00:06:42.320 in some ways last night. He immediately ended the vaccine passport program, and kids are going to be 0.98

00:06:46.400 unmasked in schools starting next week, and he's got plans to dump the rest of the restrictions.

00:06:51.520 A plan that's not enough for some, but it's still definitely better than the nothing we've seen so

00:06:55.620 far. We desperately need to see some light at the end of the tunnel, and some has finally appeared

00:07:00.140 in Alberta. The problem again, though, is Kenny was clearly pushed into dropping these mandates.

00:07:06.280 It wasn't a proactive move, it was reactive. He's facing a potential caucus revolt, and the

00:07:11.960 protests are springing up all over the province, including the troublesome one at the U.S.-Canada

00:07:16.100 border down there in Cootes. Kenny would have liked to hang on to the restrictions until a date

00:07:20.540 closer to his pending leadership review. He wants delegates sighing a breath of relief

00:07:25.140 as mandates are lifted just before the review. He wants people in a good mood,

00:07:28.880 but he chose to do politics rather than uh going with the science and he's had no choice i'm happy

00:07:38.200 the mandates are starting to come down i don't care what the reasoning is for it and hopefully

00:07:42.180 we're soon going to be going into a rebuilding and recovery phase from the pandemic but that's

00:07:45.900 going to require realistic forward-thinking policies on the part of the government and i

00:07:49.480 don't mean much maintain much confidence that we're going to be seeing that we have a leadership

00:07:53.220 deficit on every level of the government. It means not waiting until you're cornered before

00:07:59.160 acting on something. We need them to lead, not keep following issues. And we haven't seen any

00:08:04.760 of that, but time will tell in the days to come. So let's see if we're ready for a check-in from

00:08:11.100 the newsroom. It has just been crazy over there. If Dave wants to give me a wave, if he's up for

00:08:14.940 it or who we may have, he is. Okay. So let's bring in our news editor, Dave Naylor. Hey, Dave.

00:08:19.360 Hey, Corey, how's it going?

00:08:23.240 Very good.

00:08:24.520 Very good.

00:08:26.060 Good.

00:08:26.740 I'm glad it's going good for you.

00:08:28.360 Okay.

00:08:28.920 So tell me, I know your exhaust is going on.

00:08:31.980 It's hard to lead you into it, but you've got so much to cover.

00:08:35.320 What are the top stories in the newsroom today and what are you guys working on?

00:08:39.620 Oh, a whole mess of stuff, Corey.

00:08:42.360 Right now, the site is leading off with Ottawa police calling in child protective services in the city because they're concerned for the dozens and dozens of children that are living with the truckers, amongst the truckers in the cabs and all that sort of stuff.

00:09:02.120 They're concerned about sanitary conditions for the kids.

00:09:08.480 Now they say they're not going to seize any kids.

00:09:11.540 And I think any move to do that would just inflame the situation to no end.

00:09:18.080 But they are going to keep a close monitor on those children.

00:09:23.160 If you listen to last night's Kenny announcement on vaccine mandates in the province, Corey,

00:09:30.560 you heard him compare the treatment of the unvaccinated people in Alberta

00:09:35.660 to the ostracization of AIDS patients back in the 80s.

00:09:41.540 A lot of people were upset about that, and Kenny has very quickly issued an apology, which is unusual for him.

00:09:49.560 He doesn't like to issue apologies.

00:09:52.780 So our legislature reporter, Amber, has got that story up.

00:09:57.600 Mel Rizdin has been keeping a close eye on the border crisis in Coutts.

00:10:03.800 They were not happy with Kenny's announcements last night.

00:10:08.500 They wanted everything lifted immediately.

00:10:11.540 and uh shortly after kenny's uh speech they went and blockaded the highway again 0.53

00:10:18.100 so no traffic moving in or out of the uh the the border there with uh with coots uh

00:10:26.900 you remember when gofundme cancelled their uh their 10 million dollar uh fundraising campaign

00:10:33.620 for the truckers and decided they were going to keep the money well a new site the ghost send me

00:10:38.980 they have raised that amount already uh they've equaled 10 million dollars uh in donations from

00:10:45.540 i think 88 000 donors uh so that's been a real incredible outpouring for uh uh for for the

00:10:53.940 truckers uh ontario their government issued a statement this morning on on their covet plans

00:11:01.140 They have no plans to go down the path of Alberta and Saskatchewan.

00:11:09.160 They say they're going to be cautious and prudent.

00:11:15.140 One of the things that Kenny did announce was that Flames and Oilers fans going to the game

00:11:22.500 will now be able to have a beer and some popcorn, something which they weren't allowed to do previously.

00:11:29.720 My favorite story of the morning is a Twitter war between Dr. Jordan Peterson, a well-known commentator, and Gerald Butts, the former top aide to Prime Minister Trudeau.

00:11:49.820 They've been going at each other tooth and nail for four or five days now on Twitter.

00:11:55.820 Butts has finally had enough.

00:11:57.480 He gave Peterson a chance to apologize, and Peterson basically said, sue me.

00:12:06.560 So it looks like Butts is going to, but if you want to read that exchange, it's highly entertaining.

00:12:13.600 And our real estate guru, Mike Thomas, has a story on Toronto taking over from Vancouver

00:12:20.060 as the priciest place to buy a house in the country,

00:12:24.880 he's averaging some ridiculous figure like 1.2 million or something like that so uh yeah busy

00:12:31.960 morning already cory and that's what's on the site right now great yeah you know 1.2 million

00:12:37.460 into toronto i mean jeez i'd pay a lot of money not to live in toronto it's uh i feel for those

00:12:43.400 people who i guess have no choice but to live there and have to try and shell out that much

00:12:47.660 to live because whereas that reflects on rent and everything else but yeah well exactly i just want

00:12:53.980 to alert the viewers and listeners that we've got a major Pierre Polyev exclusive. Just

00:13:02.300 typing it up right now, but it'll be a national scoop that you'll first read on the Western

00:13:09.120 Standard. And that should be up about quarter to one. And the rest of the day, the stories

00:13:16.580 will keep churning out because the news gods aren't giving us a break.

00:13:20.920 No, they aren't. You're sounding tired already. We still got a couple of days left.

00:13:23.980 the week well thanks for the check-in and the heads up on what's coming up in an hour there

00:13:27.820 dave and uh and everything else you're welcome cory all right so uh judy and jim mcgurwads

00:13:35.740 speaking grewattowski okay i hope i'm not slaughtering your name but a correction from

00:13:40.220 the commenters yes it's it's uh give send go not go send me all these things go find me this that

00:13:45.980 and everything it is difficult the bottom line is yes give send go and if people are interested you

00:13:50.940 search that out and search for the truckers convoy and you'll find out where you can watch how much

00:13:55.240 that fund has been growing and uh take part in it if you should choose to i mean that's been amazing

00:14:00.300 you know i don't even know what they necessarily need all the money for it doesn't hurt i mean

00:14:04.620 there's a lot of truckers to be supplied and and people to be funded and you know accommodations

00:14:09.000 you name it but i just like it as well as how it's such a symbol of cross canada support for this

00:14:16.400 You know, the people who can't, the people who work full time, people who have kids at home, they can't get out and protest in Ottawa, but they appreciate what the protesters are doing.

00:14:25.000 So they're reaching into their wallets, as Dave said, almost 100,000 of them to fund this thing.

00:14:30.760 And it's, that is more just that, that giant symbol of support is much more important, almost, almost money's important than the amount of money that's actually been raised.

00:14:41.220 And that's part of what, look how fast that refilled. You know, the original one, GoFundMe, which isn't the one now, bailed out, you know, public pressure, this and that, not even so much public, government pressure and threats. So they got the hell out of that. And the new one refilled that amount in less than a week. People don't want to give up on this.

00:15:01.600 The Coutts border crossing, you know, James, we've allowed him to come home because he's spent a week and some down there.

00:15:07.820 He's tired out. He was covering stuff live.

00:15:10.460 And it's still ongoing now. There's fewer people down there than there used to be.

00:15:14.980 But there's still a large number of people there.

00:15:17.080 It sounds like there's unfortunately a lot of division going on down there, too.

00:15:20.280 This happens when you have decentralized leadership.

00:15:22.100 You know, everybody has a voice and not everybody agrees.

00:15:24.880 But there's been kind of back and forth. They're closing the border. They're opening the border.

00:15:28.360 They're closing it. They're opening. The police have been closing access.

00:15:31.020 as well. That can't be forgotten. It's not always the truckers doing it, but it sounds like they've

00:15:34.840 really been working on stopping it up again. And they're discussing that from within on whether

00:15:38.760 they're going to open it or not. That situation I am worried about. I worry about it. We listened

00:15:45.780 to Sonia Savage come out yesterday saying, you know, this is not going to stand for much longer.

00:15:50.420 We listened to the government saying they're going to get more RCMP officers coming out from

00:15:55.200 British Columbia to help clear out that border. They've got a huge amount of logistical issues

00:16:01.340 going on down there. We've talked about that. These are tractors and tractor trailers and

00:16:06.340 trucks and campers and you name it. You can't just pop down there and move them out of the way

00:16:10.380 safely. It's not that easy. But if you build up enough resources, you can really start arresting

00:16:15.700 a lot of people. And I don't, I really don't want to see a bunch of protesters being taken away in

00:16:20.820 handcuffs. I'm not saying run for it. I'm not making advice on this one. I'm just worried about

00:16:23.980 this one. I mean, they are definitely showing dedication. I mean, the optics of all those

00:16:30.620 horses running, you know, riding down the road last week was fantastic. I mean, talk about

00:16:34.760 purely Alberta. But I don't want the optics to end with a dangerous circumstance where

00:16:41.540 protesters and or police officers could get hurt. We're just going to have to watch this as it

00:16:48.380 develops. I mean, some people are happy that the provincial government's backing off more on things

00:16:53.560 and they've reduced some regulations.

00:16:54.980 Some would say it has to be everything.

00:16:57.280 They also can't forget, and again, you know, as you can see,

00:16:59.580 I'm not always easy on Premier Kenney, but he can only do so much. 0.71

00:17:03.980 I mean, the whole basis of this thing was the federal mandate for the truckers,

00:17:08.480 and Kenney can't do a single thing about that.

00:17:10.720 That's in Trudeau's department and well worth protesting against.

00:17:14.220 So that's constantly, you know, developing and moving,

00:17:16.940 and, of course, we update as soon as we hear anything,

00:17:19.500 and we're going to have an exclusive update on the federal leadership,

00:17:21.920 as Dave said. So I'm going to get that plug for ourselves. And while we're at it, our membership

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00:17:35.080 know, again, speaking of people paying a bit to help with freedom, well, 10 bucks a month,

00:17:40.500 it's the best deal you're going to get guys. You get a free trial for a couple of weeks and people

00:17:45.680 have been trying it out. And again, 95% of them, they said after two weeks, they say, yeah, this

00:17:49.040 is worth $10 a month, you know, price of an old newspaper subscription, and you can bypass 0.90

00:17:53.260 that crappy, rotten, mainstream media. And it's terrible. Come on, we've been watching that 0.98

00:17:58.200 coverage this last few weeks. The bias and the slant has been insufferable. The misinformation, 0.86

00:18:05.840 brutal. Something Dave didn't bring up. Yeah, there was a CBC poor old me story on there.

00:18:11.620 Oh, they were complaining about the trials and tribulations of dealing with crabby protesters

00:18:16.600 when they show up. I mean, I don't support physically harassing or intimidating or getting

00:18:22.120 in the face of any press, even if they're ones that we don't like, you know, you've got to let

00:18:27.200 them do their jobs. But hey, they brought a lot of that distrust upon themselves with their terrible,

00:18:32.720 terrible reporting. And that's why people are flooding to new and alternative means to get

00:18:38.160 their information. They're leaving the old establishment media. And that's a very good

00:18:42.360 development these days in this modern world of communication. So speaking of which I'm going to

00:18:48.100 have shortly here, Spencer Fernando is going to come on in a bit here and he cuts right through

00:18:53.640 things as well. And he talks directly on issues and he's not part of that establishment media

00:18:58.700 that's been spoon feeding you such terrible information for such a long time. But I will

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00:20:30.740 in the lobby and bring spencer fernando in to have a conversation hey spencer how's it going

00:20:35.240 out there in manitoba not too bad how are you doing oh very good thanks always ranting and

00:20:40.720 raving but you know it's therapeutic for me and it spares poor jane's ear for when i get home

00:20:44.740 a little bit anyways so you had recently written i you know as i was kind of saying earlier in that

00:20:50.980 manitoba unfortunately i mean it's a great part of canada and it's often forgotten you know we're

00:20:55.180 right smack in the middle of everything, and it gets underreported.

00:20:59.080 And you went out and attended some of the demonstrations yourself,

00:21:02.880 and that's what's important too.

00:21:04.100 You know, people get off their butts and check stuff out. 0.90

00:21:06.160 They're not just going to beak off about it, 0.96

00:21:08.180 and you'll give your unvarnished opinion of it.

00:21:10.220 So maybe let us know about that article and what you did, what you saw.

00:21:14.640 Yeah, so on last Saturday, I went out in front of the legislature down Broadway,

00:21:20.740 kind of the main street there, to see what was going on,

00:21:24.100 And it was a pretty huge crowd, you know, lots of trucks, lots of people, you know, very diverse, certainly not the white supremacist that the media is trying to demonize people as.

00:21:33.380 And it's just it's, you know, it's amazing to see journalists who are trying to establish a media who are trying to demonize the protests and make it look a certain way.

00:21:41.800 And you'll notice they never really actually attend and they never really go there and talk to people.

00:21:45.880 And so I just I wanted to go see it for myself. And, you know, what I saw, I think, is quite similar to what we've seen across the country in terms of, you know, the many different types of people there, you know, the peaceful message, the fact that it's been quite peaceful this whole time.

00:22:00.180 And so I think it's important to get out there and be there and then get that narrative out on social media to counteract a lot of the lies that, you know, politicians like Justin Trudeau, Jagmeet Singh and then the establishment media have been pushing.

00:22:12.180 Yeah, well, that's it.

00:22:13.080 I mean, you got to cut through it.

00:22:14.080 It's so easy to just take individual clips and, you know, cherry pick and you can make

00:22:19.760 anything look however you please.

00:22:21.880 And I found the same thing when I went out Saturday to the Calgary one.

00:22:24.320 I was very impressed.

00:22:25.880 I mean, I've gone to a lot of protests of all kinds and, you know, often they're dominated

00:22:29.220 by anger or pushing or limits or intimidation even.

00:22:33.680 There was none of that.

00:22:34.400 It was almost like it was a country fair.

00:22:36.600 I mean, just an attitude of bonding and getting along.

00:22:38.740 Is that sort of the sort of attitudes you felt out there in Manitoba as well then?

00:22:42.840 Yeah, you know, I tweeted about how the main thing really that stood out was how many people were smiling, right?

00:22:48.600 People were so glad to be gathering together.

00:22:50.900 I think people are really tired of, you know, seeing masked faces all the time, right?

00:22:54.440 Not being able to interact.

00:22:55.540 And that's just, you know, it's very psychological and almost instinctual not being able to see, you know,

00:23:00.260 someone's full facial expression and going over that for two years or so.

00:23:03.860 That's quite disturbing for a lot of people.

00:23:05.700 So I think people are glad to be able to gather together and, you know, just talk to like-minded people.

00:23:10.780 And I think the other thing is that people are really getting a sense of hope from the fact that, you know, a lot of Canadians are starting to, you know, toughen up, become more defiant and push back against the government as opposed to just, you know, meekly going along as much of the country has up until this point.

00:23:28.140 Yeah, it's almost uncharacteristic for Canadians.

00:23:30.460 You know, we're always kind of known for just, we might be upset, but we'll just sit back and take it.

00:23:34.760 And we seem to have hit a tipping point where Canadians, a lot of them are just saying that's enough.

00:23:38.940 We have to stand up for ourselves and move on with things.

00:23:42.140 You guys had, unfortunately, a dangerous episode that happened.

00:23:45.500 And it wasn't due to the, actually, the truckers convoy protesters.

00:23:49.880 But some lunatic in a Jeep mowed down a few people one evening there in Manitoba.

00:23:54.660 I know you weren't there at that time.

00:23:57.180 Thankfully, nobody was killed.

00:23:58.480 I mean, that could have been horrible.

00:23:59.540 The video was just upsetting.

00:24:01.900 Have you had more updates on what's kind of been happening with that?

00:24:04.100 i know they caught the guy who allegedly did it yeah i mean they they caught him and it's going

00:24:09.940 through the whole you know police process there i think a lot of people have uncovered that it

00:24:14.160 was someone who seems to have antifa links which really that's not not too surprising at this point

00:24:19.400 but i think what's been interesting is you know the way that was covered by much of the media

00:24:24.240 right like just let's imagine let's flip it around say there was a big left-wing protest

00:24:29.120 and, you know, someone associated with the far right drove through it

00:24:33.780 and ran some people over, right?

00:24:35.800 That would be the biggest news story in the country, you know, for a week at least.

00:24:39.240 It would be all over the international news.

00:24:41.520 Justin Trudeau would have already gone on TV and started crying about it.

00:24:44.300 Jagmeet Singh would probably be crying as well.

00:24:46.600 And so it's just interesting to see how the narrative is so different

00:24:50.100 from the supposedly unbiased establishment media,

00:24:53.300 how they cover one thing and they don't cover something else

00:24:55.860 or they just give, you know, cursory attention to something.

00:24:59.120 And so I think that's another reason I think you said in your lead up to us talking today, just how, you know, trust in the establishment media has really gone down and a lot of people are turning to the independent media.

00:25:10.080 And I think that's a big reason why people are starting to realize that there's a lot of false narratives that are being pushed, that they create narratives by focusing on one thing but not something else, and people are getting tired of it.

00:25:21.160 Yeah, and I mean, I posted a picture recently about that time.

00:25:24.320 It was almost comical in such dark times.

00:25:26.300 you've probably seen that meme go around, but it was a reporter for CNN standing with the city

00:25:30.840 burning in the background, literally burning. And his report was, you know, city burns, but mostly

00:25:37.280 peaceful protests. Like, wow, talk about trying to polish a turd. I mean, guys, you know, this was

00:25:43.900 a riot. They're literally burning the city down and you see mostly peaceful. And then we've got

00:25:49.600 these incredibly peaceful protests across Canada with tens of thousands of people and they're

00:25:55.520 getting no credit for they're trying to look for every little possible offense i mean oh look

00:25:59.060 somebody threw a tissue on the street corner we should call in the army yeah and even you know

00:26:04.240 the way they covered you know a few people had some you know terrible flags and there was like

00:26:08.160 what one or two of those and then if you look at a lot of the media reports they'll talk about how

00:26:12.740 the crowd was carrying and then they list the flags right as if the as if there was that was

00:26:17.480 common right it was extremely uncommon and people carrying those flags were quickly pushed out by

00:26:22.340 the vast majority of people there. So it's very interesting to see how, and it's also funny to

00:26:26.840 note that, you know, the people carrying those flags often were the only masked people at the

00:26:31.200 event. So that raises some interesting questions about what was really going on there. So, you

00:26:36.360 know, yeah, it's just the narratives are very dishonest. And I think that's, you look at what

00:26:40.380 the liberals are trying to do with Bill. I think it's C11 now. We're trying to regulate social

00:26:45.120 media and they're watching what's happening. You know, it used to be easier for them to just tell

00:26:48.740 the media, okay, this is the narrative. This is what you're going to say. You can see Jagmeet

00:26:53.080 Singh and Justin Trudeau just expected that they would just, you know, demonize everyone at the

00:26:57.740 protests as, you know, racist and, you know, sexist and bigoted, far right, whatever. And

00:27:03.620 they expected that, okay, we'll say that the media will pick up on it and the protests will go away

00:27:07.740 because everyone in the country will turn against the protesters. But because of independent media

00:27:11.740 and social media, that doesn't work anymore, right? They can't just demonize a bunch of people

00:27:15.340 and expect there to be no pushback.

00:27:18.020 And so that's why they're upset

00:27:19.400 and they're trying to get control over social media

00:27:21.240 and put the government in charge

00:27:22.360 because they want to be able to push their lies

00:27:24.780 without anyone fighting back against it.

00:27:27.440 Yeah, exactly.

00:27:28.520 They didn't get away with it.

00:27:30.420 But again, instead of tempering themselves

00:27:32.520 or trying to get honest or realistic,

00:27:34.380 what they're now trying to do

00:27:35.320 is shut down the voices of independent media through C11.

00:27:38.220 That's such a dangerous bill.

00:27:40.040 And again, yeah, certainly not getting enough press.

00:27:41.780 I mean, it's hard, I guess,

00:27:42.520 since it's crazy news times to talk about nuances

00:27:45.100 like free speech but that bill you know for people like you and me scares the the heck out of us that

00:27:50.220 could really hinder our ability to reach out to people yeah i mean it's and you know i think you

00:27:57.340 look throughout history and you know you could say you know the arc of justice or whatever it

00:28:02.620 never really sides with the people who want to restrict what people can you know hear and say

00:28:08.060 right it's it's it's always a sign that you're trying to do something to people that you don't

00:28:11.820 don't really want them to be to know about you don't want people to criticize it you don't want

00:28:15.620 people to talk about it so instead of debating people or accepting that some can disagree and

00:28:20.360 you'll fight it out and you know the arena of ideas you try to use force which is what government

00:28:24.800 is everything government does comes back to force at some level you try to use force to shut people

00:28:29.720 down so i think it's it's funny how the political spectrum really has shifted over time because you

00:28:34.360 know years ago and i think neil young is a great example of this right he was he was a big protester

00:28:39.160 you know rocking in the free world he did i think an anti-war tour and he called it the free speech

00:28:44.440 tour freedom of speech tour and now here he is he's trying to get someone like joe rogan silenced

00:28:49.480 right he's he's not saying oh i just disagree with him and that's fine we can have different

00:28:53.320 opinions he's trying to work with corporations to get joe rogan silenced and obviously in canada

00:28:58.120 you see the same thing with people trying to silence independent media so i think people who

00:29:03.400 are trying to do that should really look at history and say when has history ever been on the side

00:29:07.720 of people who are trying to limit opinions limit expression and limit free speech it normally

00:29:12.680 doesn't work out that way oh it's terrible and and you can cause a lot of damage but people will

00:29:17.560 eventually find ways around that's where as i said as a symbol i was heartened by the efforts

00:29:22.600 to shut down the fundraising for the protests and how quickly it completely failed it just went to a

00:29:27.640 new medium and and started raising there and they're just playing whack-a-mole now and i

00:29:31.800 suspect if bill 11 comes in starts you know coming down on people like you and i we're still going to

00:29:35.800 find alternative ways it's it's the modern world you know you're you're just trying to dam a river

00:29:40.200 by putting a stick in the middle of it we're going to flow around it we're still going to get out

00:29:43.080 there and it is going to backfire in the long run yeah i mean it's been a great advertisement for

00:29:47.880 bitcoin right you know governments want to you know say oh just trust us trust our currency trust

00:29:53.080 our financial system well that doesn't work if governments use that as a political tool right

00:29:57.480 so people look for an alternative and bitcoin is showing itself to be a great alternative

00:30:01.720 and yeah you're going to see much more of that you know the problem is governments and you see

00:30:05.920 this in the way politicians have been responding to the protests and even before responding to

00:30:10.540 anyone who criticized you know a lot of the draconian measures we're seeing is they keep

00:30:15.740 acting as if they can just just criticizing people who say that we'll just make it go away

00:30:20.360 right oh there's you know we'll just shut these people down we'll cut off their fundraising and

00:30:24.820 then those people are going to go away but those people are still there obviously right you know

00:30:28.380 we still have those opinions. We still believe what we're talking about. So you can't really

00:30:33.080 make that go away just by shutting off funding to one source, as you said, right? It's going to go

00:30:37.380 somewhere else. And you see that the approach Justin Trudeau and Jagmeet Singh continue to take

00:30:41.700 is just, they're not going to talk to anybody. They're not going to listen to any criticism,

00:30:45.840 even now within their own party with Joel like them. And they don't seem to realize that that

00:30:50.900 just makes things worse, right? The less you're willing to talk to people and the more you just

00:30:55.440 demonize them instead of listening to real concerns well you're just going to get people

00:30:58.820 more and more people are going to start siding with the protesters you're going to get bigger

00:31:02.720 protests and it's it's not going to go well for the government at this point so i think the the

00:31:07.440 politicians really need to wake up and realize you need to start talking to people and listen

00:31:11.340 yeah dividing i mean it's just going to lead to trouble as i was kind of talking earlier i'm

00:31:16.520 worried about the protests if they entrench too long i don't want to see these end with a bunch

00:31:20.580 of i mean they've been incredibly peaceful but if you go marching in there with the the

00:31:24.980 the sticks swing in and start arresting and start, you know, hooking up to vehicles,

00:31:29.380 you can turn a situation dangerous really quickly. And if we don't see some respectful

00:31:34.380 discourse, at least starting on this, I don't see how this could end any other way. And that's

00:31:39.320 really troublesome. Yeah, I suspect that's a bit of what was behind what Joel Lightbound did

00:31:45.340 yesterday. I think he's he's probably thinking something similar and saying, you know, he I

00:31:50.360 think it's it's about, you know, his conscience, right? He's saying, does he really want to be

00:31:54.300 associated with Justin Trudeau's strategy, which at this point appears to be

00:31:57.660 to provoke the situation and make it worse out of some idea. I guess Trudeau feels he's going

00:32:03.400 to get some sort of long-term political advantage out of the situation getting worse and escalating

00:32:08.160 further. And I think what Joel Lightdown is saying is, look, you can't make these kind of

00:32:12.840 policies and decisions based on, you know, short-term political gain or even long-term

00:32:16.520 political gain. It's got to be about what's best for the country. And I think, you know,

00:32:20.640 you look at the, I think it was Angus Reid poll, which 54% of Canadians want all the restrictions

00:32:26.680 removed. And I think it's really at the point where these politicians are starting to hear

00:32:30.660 from their constituents that enough is enough. It's time to go back to normal, let people take

00:32:35.360 their own level of risk. And they're looking at someone like Trudeau, who seems extremely stubborn,

00:32:40.260 unwilling to listen to any of that, who seems obsessed with the power he's accumulated and

00:32:44.960 doesn't want to give it up. And they're really questioning whether they actually want to be

00:32:48.280 associated with that because you know this is this is a time in history where people have given up a

00:32:53.660 lot of freedom because they're afraid and you know history always shows that people look back

00:32:58.020 and that and they often regret it they say you know i was kind of my mind was kind of messed up

00:33:01.340 i was very scared i was willing to let the government do whatever they wanted but in the

00:33:05.700 long run people don't feel good about that and so i think a lot of politicians are really starting

00:33:10.020 to think you know maybe maybe that's not what i want to be associated with in the long term and

00:33:14.400 starting to you know find a bit of their conscience yeah so well pivoting you know before we wrap up

00:33:20.400 here a little back to you being out in manitoba we know saskatchewan and alberta uh saskatchewan's

00:33:24.880 dropping the right away or have dropped i believe you know scott moe's been very clear he wants to

00:33:29.040 get out of the mandates alberta's working that way we've dropped some how are things looking on

00:33:32.640 your front i know you've had a some challenges with the federal or provincial leadership there

00:33:36.400 and some other issues what's the situation there with restrictions and timelines yeah well the

00:33:42.160 the government's kind of hinted that they want to remove everything by spring. Of course,

00:33:45.740 that's relatively vague. We still have more restrictions than Saskatchewan and Alberta.

00:33:51.460 I suspect, unfortunately, befitting our, you know, place in the country, kind of right in

00:33:55.720 the middle, I suspect our approach will be somewhat in between Saskatchewan and Alberta

00:33:59.540 and then Ontario, right? Ontario, I think today, Christine Elliott said that there's no timetable

00:34:04.140 for getting rid of, you know, mask mandates or restrictions or the vaccine passport. I'd expect 0.99

00:34:10.900 manitoba to probably open up fully and get rid of a lot of that stuff before ontario does but

00:34:17.400 not nearly as soon as saskatchewan and alberta have now it was interesting though i think a few

00:34:23.060 weeks ago heather steffanson the new premier had actually talked about you know we've got to accept

00:34:27.680 that we're living with covet and it's got to come down more to personal responsibility and she got

00:34:32.120 a lot of criticism from the usual suspects you know people who are still extremely afraid

00:34:35.920 so we'll see if she sticks to that she's obviously i think trying to get people to accept

00:34:40.360 that we have to move on we'll see whether whether that goes anywhere but yeah i suspect the approach

00:34:46.240 of manitoba will be somewhat between what saskatchewan does and what ontario does

00:34:50.180 great yeah well the push and pull is is always ongoing well uh before you go there i mean so

00:34:56.220 where can we find more information on your writing and your updates and then where you're getting

00:34:59.760 around out there i know you've written the occasional columns for the western standard

00:35:02.640 and you're quite prolific elsewhere so uh let our listeners know where they can find you

00:35:06.200 Yeah, the best place is spencerfernando.com and then nationalcitizens.c. I write a weekly

00:35:12.060 column for them as well.

00:35:13.880 Great. Well, thank you very much for joining me today, Spencer. It's been a while since

00:35:16.600 we've talked. And, you know, like I said, we overlook the center of our country and

00:35:20.720 it's really a shame on our part. We got to cut that out. So I hope we can talk again

00:35:24.340 sometime soon.

00:35:25.360 For sure.

00:35:26.400 Great. Thanks.

00:35:28.560 So, yes, it was Spencer Fernando. And as you said, yes, spencerfernando.com, I believe

00:35:32.680 it was. You can find his columns. He's active on Twitter, as a lot of us are, and on about the

00:35:38.740 issues. He's really good for keeping up with things. Just going to look at some of the comments

00:35:42.780 here. Where was that? Something about Trudeau. Yeah, there's Genevieve asking about why did

00:35:49.120 Trudeau walk out at a half hour in a question period yesterday? Is that allowed? Yeah, that

00:35:52.900 is allowed. And to me, I don't like giving Trudeau much credit for much of anything, but pretty much

00:35:58.580 every party does that to a degree. They'll often get the leader to field the first three questions

00:36:03.420 from the leader of the opposition or something and then move them out. Sometimes they'll stay

00:36:06.680 for the whole thing. In Trudeau's case, it's because he's an imbecile and he's weak. And if 1.00

00:36:12.040 they kept him too long and he had to try and think on his feet, he wouldn't be able to answer that

00:36:15.540 many questions without stepping on his own tongue. So that is the reason they got him out of there

00:36:19.220 sooner rather than later. But it is allowed. There's nothing to say he has to stay for it.

00:36:24.800 And to be honest, if you ever have to listen through question period and the way Trudeau talks,

00:36:27.760 It's something of a blessing not having to listen to the guy for the whole thing anyways.

00:36:31.760 But again, it is an indication that he's not planning on trying any sort of direct leadership on things or taking anything directly or seriously even.

00:36:39.740 I mean, it's just bizarre, you know, with how divided and big and serious this issue is in Canada.

00:36:48.640 and still we can't get, I mean, that's what's talking about, this lack of leadership, him to

00:36:53.720 come out and just try to be a little respectful, try to speak for all Canadians. That's your job.

00:37:02.140 That's the responsible job. That's the principal job. You don't have to agree with all Canadians.

00:37:06.300 You don't even have to bend to their demands, but you have to respect them. And he hasn't. He has

00:37:11.020 insulted them. He has villainized them. He has called them, you know, the worst of names,

00:37:16.320 And he keeps doing it. He keeps doing it. And what is this? You know, it's not getting any better. I mean, some people do think and perhaps that's it. You know, he wants to start the riots. He wants to start the reset, I guess. You know, that's a whole separate show. But I mean, the motivations of that man, you know, some people talked. I was listening and, you know, some great coverage. Aside from the Western Standard, of course, is Fox News. Boy, they've been watching this Canadian situation a lot.

00:37:43.520 And I look at commentators and some are, who's another fella? Zuby, he's on Twitter. He's a Canadian gentleman and he's got a big following. He's talking about how much he just can't stand that guy. Like Trudeau, when you listen to him, he is fake to his core and he's, he's not right. Like he's, he's dangerous. People have been saying that he is dangerous. This is a man who is, is not in my view, in his right mind in some ways.

00:38:08.080 And yeah, he's in charge right now with a minority government, thankfully, but we're just in such an odd, bizarre place.

00:38:15.640 Getting a little closer to home, you know, I want to talk a little bit about the responses and reactions to Jason Kenney, of course, announcing some getting rid of the vaccine passports. 0.99

00:38:24.680 This passport thing, it was always crap. 0.99

00:38:27.440 It was always crap. 0.99

00:38:28.780 The only possible motivation or justification for having a passport, you know, a means of proving vaccination to go into a business is if vaccination stopped transmission. 0.99

00:38:40.400 Now, it's not medical theory any longer.

00:38:42.540 It's proven.

00:38:43.280 We saw that with Omicron.

00:38:44.500 It does nothing to stop transmission.

00:38:46.980 So if it doesn't stop it, what's the point?

00:38:51.640 And I mean, some are honest about it.

00:38:52.920 They'll admit we've got it in because we just want to hound harass and annoy people enough that maybe they'll just go out and get vaccinated anyways.

00:38:58.300 and it probably worked on some. But still, those who are willing to get vaccinated have done it.

00:39:04.780 It's done. They're finished. They got it. You know, I got it. I don't know about the booster

00:39:08.700 at this point. I'm getting tired of this crap. We'll see as things develop, but I got the first 0.99

00:39:12.340 two. And that was my choice. That's the thing is this has to be choice. And taking this passport

00:39:18.780 thing, really, that's getting into coercion because that's where you're cutting people off.

00:39:22.980 I talked to a friend the other day who did not want to get vaccinated. He said he's thrilled

00:39:26.600 because you'll be able to go to a restaurant for the first time in months. 1.00

00:39:29.700 But then I have these idiots. 1.00

00:39:32.500 And idiot number one, and I'm going to be writing a column about her, 1.00

00:39:35.400 is Deborah Yedlin. 1.00

00:39:36.480 She is the head of the Calgary Chamber of Commerce. 0.88

00:39:39.840 And she was just furious that Kenny has lifted the vaccine passports on businesses.

00:39:46.440 And she's saying it's bad for business. 0.99

00:39:48.640 What a load of crap. 1.00

00:39:50.140 What a load of crap. 1.00

00:39:52.000 You know, and then the media just tries to feed this. 0.99

00:39:55.340 You know, I like reporting on the headache and the vein pulsing I get when I drive in to work during the day and I listen to talk radio, which we've got to replace.

00:40:04.080 But they had Ernie Su on.

00:40:05.080 I've had him on this show before, too.

00:40:06.720 He's the head of the Alberta Hospitality Association.

00:40:10.040 And, you know, he speaks frankly about these things.

00:40:12.680 He owns Trolley 5 in Calgary, and he speaks up for bars, restaurants and hospitality in general.

00:40:19.060 And yes, they're thrilled with the raising of the vaccine passport, but he is concerned that they still have limits on people. 0.90

00:40:26.500 They can't go table to table with each other.

00:40:28.280 There's still masks.

00:40:29.220 There's still early closures mandated on them.

00:40:31.620 They'd like to see all that lifted as well.

00:40:33.400 But the radio host keeps sticking on that.

00:40:37.360 They wouldn't talk about, by the way, the vaccine passport lifting was a good thing because he did say it's a good thing. 0.65

00:40:41.060 And it is.

00:40:42.240 Look, you've got 15% of the province isn't bloody vaccinated.

00:40:46.240 Now, when you own a bar or restaurant, which I did for five years, and we did make money,

00:40:50.100 not a hell of a lot, but we did make money, the average margin in a bar or restaurant

00:40:56.120 in Canada, and this is according to Stats Canada, you can look it up, is under 5%.

00:40:59.940 That's the profit margin. 1.00

00:41:01.880 Now, you take 15% of your potential customer base out of the mix, and an imbecile like 0.99

00:41:07.920 Yedlin is going to say, this is a good thing for business? 1.00

00:41:10.500 Because that's what she's saying.

00:41:12.200 Yeah.

00:41:12.800 And she's saying people are going to be scared to go to bars and restaurants now.

00:41:15.880 because they don't have the passport.

00:41:17.040 That's what's gonna drop business down.

00:41:18.340 Look, people that scared, and some of them are out there

00:41:21.020 because they listen to the bloody mainstream media 0.99

00:41:23.200 and that crap, yeah, they're scared to go out. 0.99

00:41:25.840 They're scared to go to a restaurant, but you know, 0.99

00:41:27.320 those people, those ones who are that terrified of the bug

00:41:30.300 weren't going out anyway.

00:41:31.780 They were going to bars or restaurants.

00:41:32.920 They're the ones you're still seeing with rubber gloves on

00:41:35.400 as they pick up their, skip the dishes at the steps

00:41:37.440 and they take a sanitation shower every five minutes or so.

00:41:42.560 No restaurant owner is honestly gonna come out and say,

00:41:45.720 they wanted and enjoyed the vaccine passport system.

00:41:49.880 None of them are gonna come out.

00:41:51.160 I mean, some of them are, you watch,

00:41:52.740 oh, you can see it, I'll bet you anything. 0.88

00:41:55.440 Because again, it shows how slanted and disgusting

00:41:57.360 our legacy media is right now.

00:41:59.500 They're gonna go up mainstreaming.

00:42:00.420 They're gonna go business to business.

00:42:01.600 They're gonna find some hipster who runs a coffee shop,

00:42:03.440 say, I wanted the vaccine passport plan.

00:42:06.000 I think it's ridiculous, they got rid of it. 1.00

00:42:07.560 They'll find one, they'll find an idiot. 1.00

00:42:09.700 There's a thousand businesses out here. 1.00

00:42:11.080 There's always gonna be one.

00:42:13.000 For the most part, why would you want to,

00:42:15.600 Put your staff through that where they've got to be up front.

00:42:18.640 I mean, it costs you money.

00:42:19.580 Every little move of your employee costs you money.

00:42:21.560 People say it's not a big deal.

00:42:22.660 It is a big deal.

00:42:23.300 When you're in a 5% margin business, and now you're dedicating an employee and time and tracking and management to something, it's costing you.

00:42:31.360 It's taking more out of your budget.

00:42:33.180 And you have that person up front hindering your traffic to keep scanning these codes.

00:42:38.520 You're paying that person.

00:42:39.800 You're annoying your patrons.

00:42:41.360 It's not helping your business a bit.

00:42:43.560 And then don't forget, as I said, we know it. It's not stopping the spread. Yet the Chamber of

00:42:50.460 Commerce says that these passports were good for business. That goes to show how sick a lot of our

00:42:57.200 institutions are out here, not just the media, but things like the Chamber of Commerce. How can you

00:43:03.180 pretend to be an advocate for business when you would say something so stupid? And she just kept 1.00

00:43:09.540 going on about it too. But you've got to remember, how many businesses Deborah Gedlin has run?

00:43:16.200 None. She's never run a business. As far as I can tell, she's never owned one. I don't know. She

00:43:20.380 might have silently owned one elsewhere. I can't say 100%, but I've seen no evidence of it. I tried

00:43:24.960 looking it up this morning before I was working on my column. Yet she's heading the Chamber of

00:43:29.640 Commerce, the Chamber of Woke. And if you look at the Chamber of Commerce in Calgary, it is brutal.

00:43:34.980 It's all the talks about is diversity, bike lanes, crap like that. All the crap that business owners 0.99

00:43:39.480 actually don't want to see. But that's who their supposed representative is. Derek pointed out to 0.99

00:43:46.820 me, the Western Standard is a member of the Chamber of Commerce in Strathmore, because the

00:43:51.220 Calgary one is so sick that we couldn't take part in that. It's junk. So that's where we are with 0.99

00:43:58.100 these vaccine passports. Now, with the next thing, of course, are the unions all going bonkers and

00:44:02.540 bananas about the unmasking of students. Yes. Now, here's the other thing we know from two

00:44:09.860 years of this. We know COVID doesn't hurt kids. It doesn't. Stop it. Okay. Quit feeding that false

00:44:18.840 narrative. I mean, people that you talk about, the worst of fear-mongering, because we all love

00:44:22.140 our kids. That's our most prized, you know, item in life. I don't like to say possession. That

00:44:26.640 sounds wrong, but you know what I mean. And if we're fearful for the safety of our kids, we will

00:44:31.660 always circle the wagons. Of course, we're concerned about that. So if the mainstream

00:44:35.240 media tries to make us afraid for our children, they can really move public opinion. But kids

00:44:40.880 aren't armed by COVID, damn it. I mean, we've had Alberta with 4.6 million people. So there's 0.99

00:44:46.740 hundreds of thousands. I don't even know the stats. You know, maybe a million children under 12.

00:44:52.080 One, I think, passed away. And it gets closer to being with COVID, not of COVID. I mean,

00:44:57.480 they always have a number of other comorbidities, whether it's cancer, obesity, and a lot of things.

00:45:03.420 This isn't getting them. So why are we so worried about masking them? Why are we gagging them like

00:45:08.440 this? We've got to stop it. And so we are, and the masks are coming off on Monday, and it's great.

00:45:14.420 So why are the unions so upset? And they're worried that their teachers are going to be put

00:45:20.240 at risk by the children then? Well, again, we're getting to, we're showing with these infections,

00:45:25.320 And I agree, I think, and I know some commenters are going to get upset, and that's fine, as long as it's a choice, vaccination will reduce the chances of getting harmed by this.

00:45:36.440 You know, that's my opinion on things.

00:45:39.520 You know, people have an opinion where they're fearful for their kids, and certainly, they can keep wearing masks.

00:45:44.980 But either way, you know, the kids, it's been unpleasant for them for two years now, being masked.

00:45:52.420 And if teachers are vaccinated, they shouldn't be fearful of getting infected or any more so that at least than going anywhere else.

00:45:58.720 I do have a video that was on deck, I believe, of some children in Israel because they lifted a mask mandate there.

00:46:05.200 No, OK, we don't have that. We used to have it.

00:46:07.660 But it showed actually a big celebratory thing with the kids taking off their masks, smiling, laughing, throwing them in the garbage, ripping them up, those sorts of things.

00:46:14.520 because again, you know, it's not normal to spend two years staring at your classmates,

00:46:18.740 not able to smile at them, not, you know, not able to be expressive, things such as that.

00:46:25.500 Let's get on a little more about some other freedoms here. The House of Commons, this was

00:46:28.840 a news item. They voted 173 to 155. There we go. To suspend a data scoop on millions of cell phone

00:46:39.100 users. This was a story that didn't grab enough traction. I think, you know, telecom customers

00:46:42.820 were never properly advised their data would be tracked and compiled by the public health agency

00:46:46.700 said members of parliament because yes they had been the government had pushed in on on your cell

00:46:52.560 providers and were demanding and getting data they wanted to track your location they wanted

00:46:57.100 to see what you're up to and this is very very serious business and thankfully I mean at least

00:47:03.060 there's obviously that much of a glimmer of common sense still remaining in our halls of

00:47:07.980 politics that

00:47:10.800 this was stepping too far.

00:47:15.620 And even in a minority liberal government, the commons got up and they voted

00:47:19.180 and said, okay, cut this out. We've got to check into this. This

00:47:23.060 is not justified. Tracking our Canadians by their cell phones like this is not

00:47:27.260 appropriate and we aren't going to put up with that. So we get some

00:47:31.240 good developments along with some bad. I see Paul Hinman in the lobby. We're going to

00:47:35.240 talk shortly. I'm going to go to an ad break first before talking to Paul. But yes, there's lots going

00:47:41.300 on in Alberta and lots going on up in Fort McMurray on a by-election that should be called pretty soon

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00:49:05.620 with our second guest today. We've got Paul Hinman here on deck and we'll bring him in there in a

00:49:11.060 moment. There we are. How are you doing, Paul? Excellent, Corey. How are you doing? Very good.

00:49:16.860 The last time I talked to you, you were up in Fort Mac. Are you still up there or are you kind

00:49:19.980 bouncing back and forth now no i i'm i'm trenched in here in fort mac this is a battleground

00:49:26.140 can't afford to be leaving it this is too important of a of an election to just put it to the side

00:49:32.460 yeah well and i've campaigned with you before and by elections and i know you were a

00:49:36.940 a tireless door knocker and and ground worker up there so you've been hammering at it for for over

00:49:42.140 a month now i was saying earlier so it hasn't officially been called yet has it i mean the

00:49:45.980 the deadline I think is Wednesday, isn't it? It's the 15th. Is that a Wednesday? I'm not sure.

00:49:50.920 I haven't looked at that. I'm just working every day because there's not enough days.

00:49:54.440 For me, that's Tuesday, I think, actually. But I mean, so he dragged that out, you know,

00:49:58.740 Jason, Premier Kenney, right to the very bitter end before allowing this by-election to happen.

00:50:04.820 So what are you seeing on the ground so far with all your work campaigning?

00:50:08.480 Well, it's just so promising at the door because people are so fed up with the legacy parties

00:50:13.960 and what they've offered, what they've done to them, what they're proposing for solutions.

00:50:19.020 There are none.

00:50:19.860 It's just more of the same, the status quo,

00:50:22.060 and it's just destroying and undermining Fort McMurray and their economy here.

00:50:26.820 Their housing prices, I mean, they lost their 911 control here.

00:50:31.420 It's really pitiful to see what the last two legacy parties,

00:50:35.620 the NDP and the UCP, are doing to Fort Mac.

00:50:39.100 They treat Fort Mac very much the same way that Ottawa treats Alberta.

00:50:43.600 This is the crown jewel, and they get so many tax dollars out of here, but yet they're the last place to get Twinned Highway.

00:50:49.740 They're the last place to get senior care facility for their seniors that have lived here.

00:50:55.900 They're the last place to upgrade the hospitals, and they're always battling, you know, at what level of care can they give here

00:51:03.620 because they want to send people five hours away to Edmonton.

00:51:07.200 There's so many frustrating things here locally that need to be changed,

00:51:10.780 And the Wild Rose has the solutions for those changes, because we need to collect taxes locally and send them to Edmonton, and just as we need to collect our taxes here in Alberta and not send them to Ottawa.

00:51:23.660 Because once you have someone else, the master of your account, they decide.

00:51:29.300 They've got their destiny and their decisions in their hands, not ours.

00:51:33.420 Yeah, well, and we've been talking about those sort of things in Alberta, unfortunately, for decades.

00:51:37.680 and governments pay lip service to those issues very often.

00:51:41.900 We listened and watched the Fair Deal panel go all over the province

00:51:44.720 and come to a lot of those conclusions.

00:51:46.200 But to date, I don't think a single one of those recommendations

00:51:49.360 from that panel has been brought in yet, has it?

00:51:51.580 Not that I'm aware of.

00:51:52.900 I mean, this is just the typical Jason Kenney and government saying,

00:51:57.380 oh, we're listening.

00:51:58.660 No, you need to be acting.

00:51:59.960 You need to be doing.

00:52:00.840 And they're doing more harm than good by not acting.

00:52:03.940 so uh now you're in a really unusual uh race out there you do have brian gene running for the ucp

00:52:12.760 there but brian's kind of running on an anti-jason kenny platform in a sense uh i i guess

00:52:20.100 i'm just trying to distinguish just so unique in a sense you don't often see somebody actually

00:52:24.100 actively running in an election uh in opposition to their own leader uh but in the meantime i mean

00:52:30.080 you're running i guess you're you're looking more broadly as an entire option to the ucp rather than

00:52:34.140 just specifically with the leader of that party oh this our governments that are just destroying

00:52:41.260 our economy i mean what they're doing and throwing fort mcmurray under the bus you have you know our

00:52:46.480 prime minister who wants to shut down the oil sands we have rachel notley in opposition wants

00:52:51.780 to shut down oil sands and we have both jason kenny and brian gene on the record that they

00:52:57.140 want to meet the Paris Accord, which, oh, that just phased out the oil sands. And as an economy

00:53:02.100 like this, a mining city, when it starts to shrink, it's a decimating situation because there's nobody 0.85

00:53:09.900 to come in and to buy a new house. And house prices fall. I've talked to individuals that are

00:53:14.920 $250,000 under their mortgage. And if they lose their job here, they're finished. And it's just

00:53:22.260 terrible to see the incompetence of government, their policies, and what it's doing to our crown

00:53:27.820 jewel here in Alberta. Yeah, negative equity. Now, there's a terrifying thing. You know, we saw a lot

00:53:33.600 of that in Alberta, for those of us old enough to remember the mid-80s when the National Energy

00:53:38.100 Program cut the legs out from under us and the interest rates went through the roof, and people

00:53:42.280 literally had to walk away from their homes because they owed far more on their home than it

00:53:47.240 was actually worth. And we're seeing that in Fort McMurray. I mean, this is ridiculous. We have

00:53:51.320 oil, I think, got near $90 a barrel today. Fort McMurray is sitting on some of the most abundant

00:53:57.100 natural resources in the world. They should be booming up there. It should be, if anything,

00:54:04.360 the house prices should be going up. Yet the only explanation we have that it isn't is government.

00:54:08.880 Oh, absolutely. And government policies. I mean, when they lost Tech Frontier last year,

00:54:13.000 that that was the beginning of the chokehold that really is affecting this economy.

00:54:18.640 And Suncor, I mean, their capital was reduced 10%.

00:54:21.360 And as soon as you start shrinking, you know how devastating that is, Corey, to the future.

00:54:27.660 And it's just unacceptable.

00:54:28.940 And it's policy, you know, that they say, you know, the pipeline issue is a big, big problem.

00:54:33.780 But this attack on CO2 is unbelievable.

00:54:38.440 And again, it's the same narrative that they use for COVID and for climate change.

00:54:41.920 and they won't allow for an open, honest discussion.

00:54:45.120 They basically just strangle any opposition or open discussion on this.

00:54:50.840 And it's ridiculous to think that we're going to shut down our oil and gas,

00:54:54.440 our oil sands, to buy it from Saudi or Nigeria or Venezuela.

00:54:58.920 We have a world-class operation going here, and it's second to none in the world.

00:55:04.120 And yet these people want to shut it down for what, virtue signaling,

00:55:07.820 for personal acknowledgement to the world? 0.98

00:55:10.360 oh look at us they're hypocrites they all live a luxurious life on hydrocarbons and they want to 0.80

00:55:17.820 take it away from the people this idea that we're getting a 25 percent increase on our on our carbon 0.93

00:55:23.280 tax here on the first of april that only hurts canada it hurts every individual there is nothing

00:55:28.760 good out of this carbon tax going up and we need to stand up and say no and that's what this by

00:55:34.280 election is about is it about us making decisions of our future who's the master of our future is

00:55:40.000 it going to be someone like Trudeau or who's it going to be? So I'm going to pivot a little bit.

00:55:46.260 You're, you know, a leader of an entire party and you're well dialed into Southern Alberta, of course.

00:55:51.580 We've had that ongoing, basically, I'll use the term standoff. It's been back and forth. They're

00:55:56.600 letting traffic through. They're not letting traffic through. We have a big protest happening

00:56:01.180 in Cootes, a lot of farmers, a lot of truckers. What do you see there? What kind of resolution

00:56:07.260 do you think we might be able to get into?

00:56:08.720 I mean, politically, we're seeing a football

00:56:10.480 being tossed back and forth.

00:56:11.680 The feds don't want to touch it.

00:56:13.220 The province doesn't want to dive in,

00:56:14.740 but they might have no choice pretty soon.

00:56:17.020 What can be done down there?

00:56:18.640 This is pure incompetence and overreach of government.

00:56:22.200 I use the analogy, this is like a burglar

00:56:24.620 who's broke into your house and you're doing house repairs

00:56:27.200 and you didn't have a safety rail up in the hole

00:56:30.100 and he falls down, hurts himself.

00:56:32.280 Well, he's intruding in your house

00:56:33.700 and you're in court defending yourself.

00:56:35.720 These people have lost their constitutional rights. We have a federal government and provincial government that have imposed mandates that they've never been able to demonstrably justify. And they yet want to attack these people that have been hurt so bad. They've lost their livelihood. I mean, I've talked to four mothers who have lost their sons to suicide, Corey.

00:56:57.140 the actions of these governments is reprehensible and all they need to do is actually come forward

00:57:03.600 and say you know what we went against our emergency management teams we took it into

00:57:09.480 our own hands we were wrong we've censored the discussion on how to handle COVID and we've had

00:57:15.940 this idea that if we just lock down for two weeks two months two years till we get a vaccine that

00:57:23.020 it's a panacea. When you look to Israel and other places, it's not working. It's not a one-shot

00:57:29.840 fix-all. And they need to back up and say, we were wrong, and we're not ever going to do this again.

00:57:35.580 I mean, the emergency management teams have said, this is the wrong thing. You don't lock down

00:57:40.500 people for this type of an emergency. You lock down those who need to be protected, and you

00:57:46.320 protect those going in. But bottom line, it's a simple solution. Both governments need to admit

00:57:51.540 they're wrong and allow people to be educated, make decisions for themselves, and those that

00:57:57.140 feel comfortable to carry on their work, let them work. And the idea that how many just hundreds and

00:58:02.620 thousands of people here in Alberta have lost their jobs or they're laid off without pay and

00:58:08.320 is decimating, Corey, is just wrong. Government's wrong and they need to admit it, apologize and say

00:58:14.040 they're not going to do this again. Well, boy, that's something unfortunately that's extremely

00:58:18.600 rare to come out of government's own mouths is to admit that they're wrong but I mean yeah

00:58:23.640 eventually you have to you have to bend history is going to show that they were wrong it's just

00:58:30.600 there's just so much overwhelming evidence Corey that what they're doing is causing more harm than

00:58:36.640 the virus and and it's wrong and again the fear-mongering that they've done all of the

00:58:41.120 numbers that they put out I mean for the premier to come out and give all those statistics and

00:58:45.400 stuff yesterday. Well, the fact of the matter is, is that we know that they have sensationalized

00:58:51.180 the numbers in hospitals that are actually there because of COVID. Yes, they have COVID, but

00:58:56.360 everything that they've put out every day is about putting fear into the people. And that's the

00:59:01.800 biggest thing, I guess, when you talk, what the government really needs to do is they need to do

00:59:05.420 a mea culpa on the fear mongering that they've done and says, you know, we took these numbers,

00:59:10.220 we thought that by scaring you into doing these things, that you would do better. And it's just

00:59:16.020 not going to work. No, well, the government now, and they're racked with a lot of internal fighting

00:59:23.660 that's going on. I mean, you know, it's constantly leaking out. There's individual members of the

00:59:28.140 legislature coming out and speaking a different message from the central government. It looks

00:59:32.640 like they try to rein them in and they have meetings, but they're herding cats. And I think

00:59:36.740 it's falling apart. Have you been talking though to other people in the legislature? Are there,

00:59:41.740 you know, I know it's throwing a loaded one out there, but are there some perhaps considering

00:59:45.560 new party allegiances at this time? I'm not going to comment on that, Corey. And the biggest reason

00:59:50.760 why is that there's nothing more pitiful than when someone switches allegiance because they

00:59:56.300 think they're losing. I mean, we should be standing up for the principles and the policies

01:00:00.180 that we believe. Jason Kenney needs to stand up for Alberta and tell Trudeau to end all mandates.

01:00:05.540 I mean, what a hypocrite he was two weeks ago to say, oh, let the truckers into Alberta. 0.86

01:00:10.100 But by the way, we're keeping our mandate in place. 1.00

01:00:12.540 And these second and third class unclean citizens can't come into our restaurants and stuff that they can come in the back door and deliver what we need. 1.00

01:00:20.280 I mean, the hypocrisy in this has been terrible. 1.00

01:00:23.260 But the censorship and the fear mongering is what's caused the damage.

01:00:26.940 And they need to reverse that.

01:00:28.260 And they need to admit it that, you know, we didn't look at it.

01:00:30.860 This is like a judge who only is looking at the perpetrator and refuses to listen to the testimony of the victim.

01:00:38.200 And that's what's going on here.

01:00:39.980 And I'm sorry, but way too many of these people are coming to the parade way too late.

01:00:44.660 It's only because they've seen the trucker convoy and Canadians across this country rallying, saying, you know what?

01:00:52.480 The government's overstepped its bounds and we're not going to take it anymore.

01:00:56.280 But I tell you, Trudeau and many, you know, you look through history and any of these totalitarian individuals, they'll push it to the death.

01:01:05.700 You know, they want the death of the party.

01:01:07.720 They're going to hang on there and they're not going to accept it.

01:01:10.400 And so it's a tough battle.

01:01:12.400 But, boy, we've got to fight and win this one now, just like we got to win this battle in Fort McMurray, send an earthquake that, you know, the people actually want to be masters of government, not government masters of the people and their living, their occupation.

01:01:26.280 their health decisions the autonomy of their body all of these things corey have been lost

01:01:31.240 and people are are quickly now realizing that you can't trust government you can't trust the

01:01:37.080 the chief medical officers that they do not have the interest of the people at heart what they have

01:01:43.720 is the integrity of their system that's been failing for 20 years and they continue to want

01:01:49.000 to protect it and it's just it's just totally wrong corey i think a lot of what people are

01:01:54.600 are getting tired of too, is just the political games. I mean, you and I have been immersed in

01:01:59.380 many of them over the years anyways, and just the internal play and the garbage. I mean, 0.90

01:02:03.940 citizens want more and we understand there's going to be some of that going on, but we just

01:02:07.840 want to see some more honesty. And that's been, you know, I mean, Jason Kenney of all things,

01:02:12.040 if nothing else is a master politician and he certainly knows those games, but we watched,

01:02:17.740 you know, him trying to rig and avoid going to a leadership review and then finally kicking it

01:02:23.040 down to mid-April. And as I said, I think it's kind of blowing up on him. So assuming that,

01:02:27.940 you know, that the by-election gets called, well, it has to within a few days,

01:02:31.060 that one's going to be wrapped up in mid-March, not too long before Jason Kenney's leadership

01:02:35.780 review. And I guess if there was a Wildrose member up there, that would certainly shake

01:02:39.640 up the establishment a little, wouldn't it? It's an earthquake that will go across not

01:02:44.040 only Alberta, but Canada. Is it the people have had enough of these tyrants, the people have had

01:02:49.400 enough of these, I don't know, these, I'm rude about this, but I call them intellectual idiots. 1.00

01:02:56.000 They're sitting at the table eating chicken nuggets while they're plotting to get rid of 1.00

01:03:00.700 chicken farms. These people don't know where their food comes from. They don't know where

01:03:04.040 their energy comes from. And they just, they have no connection to the working well here in Alberta

01:03:10.280 or Canada. And they need to be tossed. And this is always the case. More governments are voted out

01:03:16.200 than voted in, and they need to have a choice. And this time, rather than vote Jason and the

01:03:21.260 incompetent UCP and their totalitarian idea out to get Rachel Notley, they actually have a choice

01:03:27.080 to vote for freedom. And that's what's so important. And to realize, you know, up here,

01:03:31.620 why is Brian Jean running? I mean, he's a two-time quitter. And if Jason Kenney, if he gets elected

01:03:37.520 on March 15th, and Jason Kenney survives his leadership review, is Brian Jean just going to

01:03:44.820 quit again? I don't know. It's so disappointing to me. And again, the fact that he wants to meet

01:03:50.340 the Paris Accord, I just, are you kidding me? Like, how disconnected is he or concerned about

01:03:56.220 Fort McMurray and the future of Alberta? Yeah, well, and sometimes some of those politicians

01:04:01.840 actually have their eyes on some federal ambitions, so they kind of talk out of both sides of their

01:04:05.760 mouths to hedge their bets on possibly getting to a larger legislature in Ottawa. I know you've

01:04:12.560 never shown interest you've been quite as Albertan as it gets anyways so where

01:04:16.760 can we where can people find you know more information on your campaign on the

01:04:20.900 party and and to keep track of what you're doing and support you if they

01:04:24.080 choose to no they can go to wildrose nation calm and they can call one

01:04:29.800 triple eight two six two one triple eight and when they go to the wildrose

01:04:35.120 nation calm they can stick click on constituencies and then go to Fort

01:04:39.320 McMurray Lacklebish, and they can donate there or support by a membership and email us their support,

01:04:48.260 their concerns. But this is a battle, and we need to get there. And they can just email to

01:04:53.780 byelections at wildrosenation.com. And oh, byelections, sorry, byelections at wildrosenation.com.

01:05:03.680 Great. Well, thanks for coming in to take a break from the doorknock and working there to join me,

01:05:08.220 Paul and this time we didn't have the tech issues to interrupt his last time so that's great

01:05:12.380 everybody got to hear you nice and clearly and well happy campaigning up there I'm sure we'll

01:05:18.060 be checking in again sometime soon appreciate that Corey and take care and god bless Alberta

01:05:23.100 we've got to save it from the these governments they're they're just unbelievable great thanks

01:05:28.180 Paul okay so that was Paul Hinman who is running in the by-election in Fort McMurray again whenever

01:05:35.440 Or, well, he doesn't have a choice any longer.

01:05:39.340 The by-election is going to be called by the 15th.

01:05:41.920 They've stretched it out as long as humanly possible.

01:05:44.260 That sort of shows political motivation as well, really.

01:05:47.780 I mean, if he could have gotten away with holding it off for a year, he would have done so.

01:05:51.300 And that would mean the people up there wouldn't have a representative for a year,

01:05:55.160 all because it was politically inconvenient to go to a by-election for the leader of the party.

01:05:59.020 A principled leader would say, okay, we'll give it a month or two for people to get their stuff together,

01:06:03.160 because, of course, you can't turn on a dime.

01:06:04.800 but we got to get a representative up there for those constituents as soon as possible and let's

01:06:09.240 call a by-election but no he's dragged it on all the way to the bitter end for six months and uh

01:06:14.680 well that could backfire it's as i've talked about and you know full disclosure i've worked

01:06:20.160 with paul and in party campaigns and many things a lot of times over the years uh so yeah i've got

01:06:24.960 a bias i've got nothing but respect for paul he's a fantastic person politically principled and as a

01:06:29.860 good libertarian minded man. He's been a mentor to me in a number of ways. So I'm not talking about

01:06:35.380 whether you should vote for Paul or not. I mean, but as an individual, I certainly can't say enough

01:06:40.120 good things about him. And I also know, as I was saying, I wasn't exaggerating. He's a tireless

01:06:44.200 door knocker. He is working the ground up there like crazy. Nobody expected Paul to win Calgary

01:06:48.720 Glenmore when the Stelmac government was, you know, in a strong majority in Alberta. And Paul

01:06:54.720 took that seat in an upset because he hustled out there. And these by-elections can be an

01:06:59.560 opportunity for people to voice change. So it'll be very interesting to watch how it develops.

01:07:04.680 Commenters, I see Terry Newman saying, master politicians tend not to paint themselves into

01:07:08.780 corners. Yeah, yeah, Terry, I agree. And I think though, that shows how badly Jason Kenney has

01:07:15.500 been slipping. I mean, he doesn't know what to do anymore. I've talked about it before too. I got

01:07:20.440 respect for Kenney. I really do. I still do. I don't want him to see him as premier anymore. I

01:07:23.740 think he's blown it way too badly. But I do respect him. And I think he was great in Ottawa

01:07:28.420 as a cabinet minister. He was a great opposition member, but it's not the same as leading a party.

01:07:33.100 That's a different skill and he can't seem to master it. Now they're running around all over

01:07:37.440 the place. His policies bounce back and forth. They're inconsistent. Albertans have lost trust.

01:07:41.920 I mean, his support numbers are just in the toilet and he doesn't know what to do. And that's why

01:07:46.860 things like this, he's just put it off and put it off and put it off. Now it's caught up with him.

01:07:50.540 He put off getting into a leadership review. It didn't matter. It's coming on April 9th and there

01:07:55.580 are people lining up looking to take him out. We'll see what happens there. That'll be in Red

01:08:01.900 Deer April 9th. I'll point that out too for people who have memberships. If you're interested in that

01:08:07.000 it's $100 I think for the early registration if you want to get up there and vote. That's how he

01:08:10.620 tried to stack it for himself. You know make sure it's expensive and you can get your loyalists up

01:08:14.760 there rather than other individuals and you got to vote in person and the price will go up the

01:08:19.360 closer you get to the time that's there. So if you're interested in it you might want to register

01:08:23.060 sooner rather than later, whether you're voting for or against Premier Kenney, that's where your

01:08:27.960 opportunity is going to be in Red Deer. And again, with this by-election coming, there's no outcome

01:08:34.440 in this by-election that Kenney's going to win. Talk about no win. Talk about painted into a

01:08:39.720 corner. He's either going to have Paul in there with a new party making inroads and, you know,

01:08:44.840 with the Wild Roads Independence Party up there, or he's going to have Brian Jean, who, as I said,

01:08:48.800 the whole basis of his policy is just anti-Kenney. He doesn't really speak much broadly beyond that.

01:08:53.060 or going farther out. What's he going to get NDP or Alberta party or something? I mean,

01:08:58.460 nothing is good for Kenny in that by-election. So it's, it's little wonder he kept putting it off,

01:09:03.220 but a leader would have found a way to address it head on. A leader would have got a strong

01:09:06.860 candidate in there and a leader would have dove into it and say, okay, let's get in there and get

01:09:10.640 that representative and let's make them a UCP one for me or whatever. And Premier Kenny wasn't

01:09:15.760 capable of doing that. And now he's in some terrible trouble up there. And again, we're not

01:09:21.000 hearing about it. Where's the legacy media talking about this pending by-election up in Fort McMurray?

01:09:26.120 I'm sure they'll pay attention to it at the last second, but let's talk about it. We don't get

01:09:30.400 opportunities for Albertans to get off their butts and votes. We look at those support numbers

01:09:33.340 for the UCP these days, and that can be reflected in the Democratic vote up in Fort Mac.

01:09:40.660 And that's a volatile riding. It's an interesting one. That one's not set for anybody. The population

01:09:46.720 up there is very diverse and they're very pressured. And I mean, between COVID, between

01:09:51.660 the energy problems, as Paul was saying, people are in fear for their livelihoods, for their homes.

01:09:57.660 They could vote in ways that nobody would have seen or anticipated. And of course, I love seeing

01:10:02.020 people going out there and shaking the establishment and voting ways that people didn't

01:10:07.060 anticipate. So it's going to be one to watch. Let's see, you know, back to the convoy of black

01:10:13.320 kids, just getting back into some of the news and stuff. We had, because I was asking, it was

01:10:17.760 difficult. What can Kenny do to stop it down on the border? Or what should he do? And a lot of

01:10:22.760 people have a lot of strong opinions about that. But the federal vaccine mandates, they're federal.

01:10:30.200 There's nothing Kenny can do about it. He has spoken up saying that Trudeau should drop it. We

01:10:33.100 know Trudeau couldn't care less what Premier Kenny thinks. Credit to where it's due. At least

01:10:37.760 Kenny said he'll do something about it. But I guess in removing them, that somehow becomes

01:10:41.440 provincial responsibility. And that's why Sonia Savage, the minister, was out the other day

01:10:45.660 saying we're going to get more RCMP officers in there and that it's got to come to an end and

01:10:49.040 we're going to enforce and we're going to move these people out of there. I guess in the cabinet

01:10:54.260 in Ottawa, they said they have no role in forcing an end to the convoy blockades. Transport Minister

01:11:01.440 Omar Al-Ghabara said 70 trade groups petitioned the cabinet to force an end to the border blockades

01:11:08.080 at Windsor and Coutts. But he said, it's not our problem. We can't do anything about it.

01:11:13.960 So somebody's got to do something, or maybe they don't, but it throws it on the lap of the

01:11:20.040 premiers, and the premiers don't want to dive into that. As I said, cleaning up these protests,

01:11:25.160 stopping them, intervening in them, is not as easy as some people seem to think they're going to be.

01:11:33.840 These are entrenched people. They're peaceful people, but they can be provoked, and it can go

01:11:37.580 badly. And it can go badly for those people. And it can be bad for the government that gets into

01:11:42.500 the mix of that. Let's see, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said the other night, so the freedom

01:11:48.120 convoy movement has to stop as he spoke in the commons. So this is a little bit back. And he

01:11:52.620 talked about the truckers opposed to vaccine mandates as wearing tinfoil hats, saying people

01:11:57.660 don't have the right to block streets illegally, to harass their fellow citizens, and people want

01:12:03.020 to go to work, go to school. Nobody, you know, the streets have been getting blocked. But despite

01:12:07.700 some reports and anecdotes, people aren't being harassed in the streets. I've been, you know,

01:12:12.580 as Spencer was talking, as I was saying, I've gone now to these protests. And sure, you might

01:12:17.440 get a handful of kooks. You always will. You get thousands of people together. That's going to

01:12:20.400 happen. That's law of averages. For the most part, very calm, happy, positive thinking people,

01:12:26.320 and they're self-policing. You know, that was brought up too, and it's not being given enough

01:12:29.920 credit. That video showing the people pulling that ugly, ridiculous Confederate flag out of 0.98

01:12:35.780 their protest saying, go away. We do not want you here. This does not represent us. The swastika 1.00

01:12:42.420 that was clearly probably a setup hanging around. It never even got into the protests,

01:12:46.560 but that's all the media reports on. I've gotten into some things I have seen though,

01:12:52.380 and Jane brought it up too. And I've seen this. I saw this at the rodeo we went to last spring.

01:12:56.380 um i i saw this at the protest uh the other day and i saw these in some protests downtown and

01:13:03.160 some people got upset at me on twitter because i called it out but there were some people

01:13:07.060 bothering people who've chosen to wear masks not most of them most of them are nothing but again

01:13:12.380 peace and love and let's have choice and they did not reflect the majority but i mean at one protest

01:13:18.220 i went to with james in calgary down by city hall we actually saw people going into the streets where

01:13:21.600 people were stopped at red lights and yelling at people who were wearing masks in their cars and

01:13:26.100 calling them names and things. And that's scary, it's intimidating, and it's wrong.

01:13:30.920 I know, and I saw some of the debates from people online saying, well, there's been people yelling

01:13:34.900 at me for not having a mask and getting in my face. Well, fair enough, they probably have.

01:13:38.100 There's some jerks there too. But let's go back to the old lesson our parents told us, and it's a 0.99

01:13:42.060 good one. Two wrongs don't make right. You know, you can roll your eyes at them. You can, you know,

01:13:47.620 think you're being a wiener driving around all alone in a vehicle with a mask on or walking in 1.00

01:13:52.660 to park with a mask on, but let them do it. And everything's about, it's a battle for public 0.94

01:13:57.060 perception. That's the thing that does move the politicians in the end. And the mainstream media,

01:14:01.700 we know they want to put out those negative stories. So if they can get images of people

01:14:07.800 harassing or bothering people who chose to be a mask, they're going to put it out there. 0.79

01:14:12.440 And I mean, I've seen some other ridiculous reports. And again, there's never any good 0.75

01:14:15.560 evidence of it. People outright being attacked for wearing a mask. Nothing's impossible. I find

01:14:20.760 them very dubious though. And, uh, well, okay. It looks like we got a spammer there. I'll block.

01:14:27.800 Okay. Somebody calling us the MSM. Yes. Well, apparently we're mainstream. I wonder where that

01:14:31.660 tipping point is, you know, uh, if we get over, uh, enough followers, uh, we suddenly become the

01:14:37.640 mainstream. I don't think anybody's mistaking us for legacy media at this point. We speak way too

01:14:41.900 much truth for that. So, uh, yeah, getting back to the masks, you know, just let's all be polite

01:14:48.480 to each other, that's all, and watch it and keep

01:14:50.480 self-policing. Let's not make any

01:14:52.340 more, let's not make it any easier

01:14:54.440 for the legacy media to falsely

01:14:56.360 report stuff and

01:14:57.800 ridiculously paint

01:15:00.300 protesters as being extreme 0.96

01:15:02.100 or dangerous or unkind. And yeah,

01:15:04.600 Nico brought up my Twitter handle for those people

01:15:06.380 who like good debates

01:15:08.320 and fighting with me. Again, you don't always have to agree with me. A lot

01:15:10.400 of people don't. At Corey B. Morgan, that's

01:15:12.440 my Twitter account, and I'm typically

01:15:14.440 pretty responsive on there. That's where I

01:15:16.440 do play around a lot

01:15:18.460 maybe I'll throw a plug in. Yeah. So if you've got guest ideas, feedback, things like that,

01:15:22.260 cmorgan at westernstandardonline.com for my email. And again, I'm just going to remind everybody,

01:15:28.240 if you haven't subscribed yet, you know, go to the westernstandardonline.com.

01:15:32.600 That story Dave was talking about, Paul, you have, I haven't had a chance to look, it might be up.

01:15:36.800 It's going to be coming up pretty soon. I'm sure other stories have been popping up as we've been

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01:15:53.480 Clean news, you know, and this is the real stuff.

01:15:56.380 Dave, Mel, Eva, Amber, Reed.

01:15:59.280 We got reporters all over the place and they're calling, they're following up, reporting news.

01:16:04.500 And we're bypassing the legacy media.

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01:16:12.960 A couple other stories I saw.

01:16:14.180 I think they even bring it up.

01:16:15.120 A couple of police officers keep speaking up.

01:16:17.440 These are individuals.

01:16:18.340 One was in, boy, you know, we need more news people

01:16:21.260 who have easier to pronounce names,

01:16:23.140 but Calvary police officer, Nick Matyaka.

01:16:29.060 He's disgusted with the way the officers

01:16:31.360 are being treated by politicians

01:16:32.780 and used in the Truckers for Freedom Convoy in Ottawa.

01:16:35.700 You know, officers get stuck in the middle.

01:16:38.020 They're in a hard place.

01:16:38.800 They're people like everyone else.

01:16:40.440 and, you know, they're being put into an awkward situation.

01:16:45.600 They don't want to crack down on people.

01:16:47.580 There's another one.

01:16:48.240 She went into tears, and that video and posting is up on our site as well,

01:16:52.840 and that's Elena Galeshvia.

01:16:57.840 Sorry, this is terrible.

01:16:59.100 Why is it most of these police officers got those Eastern European names?

01:17:01.900 Hey, nothing against you Eastern European guys,

01:17:03.520 but, boy, you challenge my tongue when I've got to pronounce those things. 1.00

01:17:06.080 Where's Officer Smith coming out on one of these?

01:17:08.540 Either way, go to the site.

01:17:09.400 then you don't have to deal with my horrible pronunciation of these people's names. And you

01:17:13.160 can see these videos yourself and read them and maybe email me and tell me how to properly

01:17:17.400 pronounce them. So I quit insulting their names with such things. Another update to something

01:17:23.420 that Derek brought up earlier today that everybody's kind of forgotten. Kenny lifted that with his

01:17:28.120 announcement, but did you know there used to be a work from home order? Yeah, that's been in place

01:17:33.780 actually for a long time. You wouldn't know it. Nobody's staying home. Nobody's been avoiding

01:17:37.720 going to work and that's part of all of this with these mandates and everything too compared to how

01:17:42.360 it was you know almost two years ago when they first came in and the streets really were ghostly

01:17:46.000 and people didn't know what was going to happen and they stayed in hiding and they avoided work

01:17:49.760 if at all possible this time they were told to do so even since before Christmas you didn't see a

01:17:54.520 difference people were going out it hasn't changed that's a mandate he lifted and nobody even really

01:18:00.400 knew it is happening that's uh quite uh a development with things you know uh where else

01:18:08.900 and what else have we got oh yes this is one let's just talk about the woke uh oh okay so

01:18:16.420 nico's got the the let's throw that video i talked about it earlier with the kids in israel who got

01:18:20.840 unmasked uh just because it's upbeat and it's nice and and it's really good to see kids and i bet

01:18:25.280 we're going to see a bunch of videos like this on monday so nico's going to play this and i'll be

01:18:27.860 right back.

01:18:57.860 okay so i mean i'll just gonna verbalize this a bit for the people who are just listening on

01:19:12.500 through the the podcast network by the way you know you can download the audio listen to this

01:19:16.220 at your leisure through your computer and your car things like that you know check it out where

01:19:20.420 podbeam is our main one where we host it and you should be able to find the western standard even

01:19:24.620 the pipeline on Podbean so that you can regularly catch up that way if you can't watch these

01:19:29.520 episodes on here. We're also on YouTube, Rumble, and Facebook is where we got most of our videos.

01:19:35.360 You know, follow us on all of those, especially the Rumble in my view. I want to drive more people

01:19:39.320 towards that because we just can't trust these social media giants anymore, and you just never

01:19:43.220 know if we might lose access to one or another. We don't intend to, but you know, the more that

01:19:47.960 you guys are following on a broader base, the better the chance we can avoid that sort of

01:19:50.780 cancellation effort. So if you haven't already, you know, subscribe and that's when you see these

01:19:54.660 things break too. We broke in last week, you know, when things were happening over on the,

01:19:57.860 on the border there with the convoy and James was coming in live. We don't know when news is

01:20:02.940 going to break. So we just cut in. And if you got a subscription, you'll see the alert pop up on

01:20:06.780 your phone or your laptop or whatever way you may. So you can see these news stories as they

01:20:11.960 actually break. Either way, it was just great. You know, watching those kids in Israel and they

01:20:16.540 were, yeah, just, you know, they were told they didn't have to wear the mask. It was probably a

01:20:20.060 little stage, but they were truly happy. They were ripping them off their faces. They were throwing

01:20:23.620 them. They were tearing them apart. These kids don't want to wear those things. They're just

01:20:27.980 not natural. It's not good. And again, we aren't seeing a lot of benefit from them. So, I mean,

01:20:32.920 that was just something nice to play as we get towards the end of the show. Something else,

01:20:36.980 I guess, in a laughable way, and I want to hit on, speaking of woke, crazy culture, Adele,

01:20:42.820 you know, the singer who's been very popular, fan favorite for many a person with a lot of her

01:20:49.320 songs and things. It's not my style. I'm a heavy metal guy, but all the same for those who do

01:20:53.280 love Adele's stuff. Well, she dared in an award ceremony, she dared say she loved being a woman.

01:21:02.840 Yeah, that's it. She loves being a woman and she's being castigated. Oh, they are coming

01:21:08.460 after her. How dare you say that? That's horrible. That's, that's, that's insane. I mean, no,

01:21:16.260 she's not insane. People actually are so woke, their brains fell out, where they would say

01:21:22.520 that it's controversial for a woman to say she loves being a woman. And this weird mental leap,

01:21:30.400 you have to say, as if that was somehow, I guess, an insult to women who weren't born women. I mean,

01:21:36.800 I respect trans people. And if a person is trans and identifies as a woman, I will most certainly

01:21:44.580 recognize them as a woman in any means at least

01:21:46.660 realistically possible of course

01:21:48.060 and likewise with one is transition to man

01:21:50.480 but don't go out and say

01:21:52.120 that we can't even say

01:21:54.260 we love being a woman, what if a trans woman said 0.95

01:21:56.560 she loved being a woman, what's wrong with that 1.00

01:21:58.500 but this bizarre 0.98

01:22:00.260 woke ridiculousness

01:22:03.060 of

01:22:03.400 saying that a person now

01:22:06.380 can't even speak about the gender that they have 0.99

01:22:08.780 I mean they're trying to come into I think 0.92

01:22:10.520 the crazed woke, the extreme woke

01:22:12.480 and unfortunately they're getting more and more prominent

01:22:14.120 but they're trying to create this world where uh there actually won't be any kind of form of gender

01:22:19.120 whatsoever anymore we won't talk about those things they won't exist but it's unrealistic 0.85

01:22:23.700 it's it's it's divisive it's bad for us and frankly it's stupid but i like exposing it for 0.97

01:22:30.860 when it gets excessively stupid so when you're going to get on adele's case for daring to say 1.00

01:22:35.200 she loves being a woman uh then uh you know let's just look at how uh nuts these guys are 1.00

01:22:43.440 Dave's got a story now he was talking about that was breaking.

01:22:45.620 I see him.

01:22:46.080 If you want to give me a wave, I will pull you in on that.

01:22:48.860 Okay, we're going to pull Dave in because he's got something breaking.

01:22:51.500 Dave Naylor, our news editor, he teased about that before.

01:22:54.840 Hey, Dave, so we've got something on Mr. Polyev.

01:22:58.840 Yeah, national exclusive, Corey.

01:23:02.100 Sources close to Polyev have told the Western Standard

01:23:05.420 that they've hired a national neophyte, basically,

01:23:09.140 a newbie on the national scene,

01:23:11.400 a young man called Jeremy Litke, and he is going to be the campaign director for Polyev.

01:23:20.720 He knows Polyev quite well.

01:23:22.820 He's sort of been the campaign manager locally for him in the Ottawa-Carlton riding in the last two federal elections.

01:23:31.100 But this will be his first time on the national stage.

01:23:34.800 The source says they're very excited, he's well-respected on the Hill, 1.00

01:23:39.760 And as the source said, that Pierre doesn't empower idiots. 0.99

01:23:45.480 So he thinks it's all part of the party renewal plan that he's got and trying to get younger blood into the conservative hierarchy. 0.99

01:23:56.140 So all that story is fresh and new on the Western Standard site right now, Corey.

01:24:01.840 Great. Well, as soon as the show is done, which will be coming there shortly, everybody get over and have a deeper look at that.

01:24:07.420 and there's the cover of it from Nico.

01:24:09.260 Man, he moves quickly.

01:24:10.620 Thanks for bringing that to our attention, Dave.

01:24:12.300 You warned of it earlier and great.

01:24:14.320 You know, as we said, it's an exclusive.

01:24:15.880 We're right on top of that.

01:24:16.800 And I'll speak to the audience a little

01:24:17.980 on why that's significant for the people

01:24:20.260 who are less political weenies like us.

01:24:22.620 Thanks, Corey.

01:24:23.800 Thanks, Dave.

01:24:25.220 So, I mean, because what that does say,

01:24:26.740 what Dave was talking about was, you know,

01:24:28.460 for those of us who follow politics a lot,

01:24:30.240 and I know a lot of our listeners do

01:24:31.440 and viewers as well,

01:24:33.140 but we see those same old names.

01:24:34.620 You see the same old staffers,

01:24:35.740 the same old strategists,

01:24:36.800 the same old party insiders always tied in. And for Polyev, who is obviously already the leading

01:24:42.760 contender, and very possibly might be our next prime minister, to get a virtual unknown based

01:24:49.040 on, and he's saying it outright, it sounds like in the story, you know, principle, he wants a fresh

01:24:53.200 start. Let's get new people in there, not some of the same old, same old. It is significant. And

01:24:58.760 that's significant on the tone of what he's going for. It's definitely going to upset some of the

01:25:03.620 old party faithful who were always stuck on the, well, the old ways, the staffers, you know, those

01:25:09.080 are the, if anything, what put me off organized politics when I haven't taken part in it anymore

01:25:15.120 is the staffer class. And I don't want to knock them all. There's some really good staffers out

01:25:18.760 there and everything, but there's these, there's a large number of self-important dorks who wander 0.87

01:25:23.660 around. You see them in Ottawa, they're just scurrying around like ants, always in ill-fitting 0.96

01:25:27.840 suits and a, and a big attitude. But you know, they're always the same ones. You keep seeing

01:25:33.320 those names over and over and I don't want to knock them all. There's some really good hard

01:25:35.800 working ones in there, but for Polyev to bring out a fresh name and kick off his campaign in such

01:25:42.260 an important role like that is significant and says a lot about the tone and direction that

01:25:47.600 Mr. Polyev is going to be going in with his campaign. So that is a big development and it

01:25:52.920 was a Western Standard exclusive. So check that out after the show, the full story there from Dave

01:25:58.540 Naylor. And, uh, uh, somebody sending Polyev pulled out of the leadership race today. So I

01:26:05.180 see, uh, no, Paulette, uh, Polyev is still in the race and, uh, goes to show that the fake news

01:26:10.340 isn't limited just to the mainstream outlets sometimes. And we will report on things if he

01:26:14.420 does choose to pull out at any point though, or, uh, if he, uh, wins the race, we always report

01:26:20.180 on those. So again, make sure to go to the Western standard online.com, take out a subscription,

01:26:24.700 Keep up with this news as it breaks.

01:26:26.740 We'll keep getting it to you.

01:26:29.080 Tomorrow, I've got one guest lined up and another we might see soon.

01:26:32.760 It sounds like somebody from the Justice Centre for Conservative Freedoms,

01:26:35.440 if not John Carpe, he's given me another one,

01:26:37.880 because they've got so many things going right now.

01:26:41.140 They are the organization that's been fighting on behalf of the convoy

01:26:44.640 protesters all across Canada, plus they've been fighting on behalf of restaurant owners.

01:26:49.840 They've been standing up for rights all over the place.

01:26:52.600 So we're going to get an update and see what their organization is doing at the Justice

01:26:55.600 Center for Constitutional Freedoms.

01:26:59.000 And of course, I will have some more ranting.

01:27:01.200 I will have some more news and we will cover things and we'll have more discourse in the

01:27:07.160 comments and the rest as well.

01:27:08.520 So thank you all for tuning in with me today.

01:27:11.340 Another great show, another great turnout out there.

01:27:13.840 Thanks to you subscribers.

01:27:15.240 And I will rant at you tomorrow.

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