Western Standard - Triggered： Rachel Notley under fire for being unmasked.

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00:00:30.000 Good morning. It's April 13th, 2022. Welcome to Triggered. It's also the sixth wave. Are

00:00:39.820 you going to be okay? Yes, that's it. Our head doctor is warning us all. And of course,

00:00:45.240 the complicit mainstream media is jumping on the bandwagon. We are in the midst of the

00:00:49.120 sixth wave. It's getting to the point, though, I think where we're not even noticing the

00:00:52.160 waves coming anymore. But we'll see. Watch out, guys. The zombie apocalypse could be

00:00:57.040 coming anytime now. The closest thing to an apocalypse we've really got going actually is

00:01:00.940 the weather as we go into our second winter. It's snowy and miserable in Calgary, though

00:01:05.120 when we look at the images coming out of our poor neighbors in Saskatchewan and Manitoba out there,

00:01:09.080 I guess we've got it pretty good out here. Hopefully that's that last blast. I'm trying

00:01:12.860 to look at the bright side. We're getting some moisture in the ground for our much troubled

00:01:16.140 agricultural producers out there before planting season. By the way, just a reminder, so I'm Corey

00:01:21.920 Morgan, the host of today's show. And I'm going to end the show and I might as well start it by

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00:02:01.780 So, along with the Western Standard

00:02:03.720 set up. So, comments,

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00:02:41.000 somewhat civil, though we don't have to be scrapping there. Today, it's going to be kind

00:02:44.100 of a big independence leaning going on, though a lot of our viewers like that. It's going to be

00:02:48.900 the leader of the Buffalo Party of Saskatchewan, Philip Zajac, and he's going to come on as my

00:02:54.700 first guest a little later. And then Rob Anderson of the Free Alberta Strategy. Again, now the

00:03:00.580 Alberta Strategy isn't a party, it's a group, and it's promoting, though, independence and

00:03:04.360 independence-minded sort of thing. So we'll have a lot of that leaning today. I'm going to play a

00:03:08.900 clip later on from here, Polyam's rally I went to last night. It was quite something else, and then

00:03:14.300 we'll talk about that a bit. And for now, though, let's bring things a little close to home and talk

00:03:19.420 about the fear, the masking. Well, the rallying cry of the terrified is the demand government

00:03:26.620 lockdowns and mandatory masking is we must follow the science. If only they would. Now, NDP leader

00:03:34.060 Rachel Notley raised the ire of the COVID-0 cultists among her supporters the other day when

00:03:39.640 she dared to smile and hold a baby at an event. How dare she show humanity and enjoy life for a

00:03:46.100 moment? You see, while there's no mandates or laws against holding babies while unmasked, 1.00

00:03:50.720 the unwritten rules of the cancel mob say you mustn't. As with Ryan Jesperson, who nearly lost

00:03:56.260 his show due to a cancel mob, the people coming for Notley with their torches lit and their

00:04:00.500 pitchforks waving are actually her own supporters. It makes it hard to feel sorry for people when

00:04:05.200 they reap a bit of what they've sown. We can hope, though, that Ryan and Rachel are learning from

00:04:11.360 these incidents, though. So let's get back to the science and let's see just how much risk

00:04:15.120 Rachel Notley put that baby into by holding it so recklessly like that and smiling at it.

00:04:20.680 Well, we're into our third year of the pandemic, and we have statistics now to look at,

00:04:24.840 So we can see who indeed is truly vulnerable to COVID-19 and who isn't.

00:04:30.160 So the death count for children under one year of age,

00:04:32.920 you know, the child in the category that Rachel Notley was holding,

00:04:35.800 the death count so far statistically is zero.

00:04:39.140 Over two years, zero.

00:04:41.980 Even if Notley put that baby at 100 times the risk of COVID in her moment of holding it,

00:04:46.700 the chances of the baby dying due to that would still statistically remain at zero.

00:04:51.920 So why are we going so nuts?

00:04:53.520 well, not us, but her supporters. So let's go further. Of the 20,000 cases recorded among

00:04:59.240 children between the ages of one and four in the last couple of years, one passed away. And that

00:05:05.120 was a child with serious comorbidities. And while it's not something we like to dwell on, the child

00:05:09.860 was unfortunately probably not long for this earth in any circumstances. There was a lot of health

00:05:15.800 issues going on and no amount of masking or restrictions would have saved that poor little

00:05:18.880 person. Those kind of numbers continue right up until the age of 19. Under 19 of 100,000 reported

00:05:25.540 cases, remember reported, a lot of the young people didn't even report or get tested, they just

00:05:29.040 shook off their flu and moved on. So of that 100,000 under 19, four died. Four. Those victims

00:05:38.720 suffered under, all of those four, by the way, again, suffered under a number of other serious

00:05:43.040 comorbidities and ailments. Fewer than one in a thousand of them even needed medical intervention.

00:05:48.180 They weren't hospitalized or had to see doctors.

00:05:50.640 Yet this is what we're losing it over, guys.

00:05:52.920 Statistically, kids are more likely to die in traffic accidents than they are of COVID-19.

00:05:57.500 We aren't going to ban motor vehicles anytime soon, though,

00:05:59.900 immediately some would like us to.

00:06:02.220 So statistically, the pattern is clear as day.

00:06:04.340 You don't need to be a microbiologist or a medical doctor or a statistician

00:06:07.520 in order to see the pattern of COVID-19.

00:06:10.280 The young are nearly invulnerable, and it gets more dangerous as we age and among the aged.

00:06:15.600 So out of 4.4 million citizens in Alberta over two years of the pandemic, fewer than 70 people

00:06:22.360 under 40 died of COVID-19. Remember that. Two years. 4.4 million people. How much of the

00:06:30.180 population is under 40? 70 of them died of COVID-19. Again, they were all sick with other

00:06:36.340 conditions. They keep trying to feed us this lie that healthy people are getting killed by this.

00:06:40.780 They are not. There's some extreme outliers once in a blue moon, but again, you got a better chance

00:06:45.180 of getting struck by lightning. It isn't until about over the age of 60 when COVID fatalities

00:06:50.700 start getting into higher figures. So over the last two years, we had 1,500 deaths of people

00:06:55.780 over 60 years old. And many more than that died of other causes in the province, of course,

00:07:02.800 with over 4 million people. As with prior deaths, most of these, those who passed the COVID-19

00:07:07.440 already had serious comorbidities. Now, once we get past the age of 80, that's where over 50%

00:07:13.680 of the COVID-19 fatalities are.

00:07:16.420 Now, being over 80 in itself

00:07:17.900 is something of a comorbidity.

00:07:19.880 I mean, when you consider

00:07:20.640 the life expectancy in Canada,

00:07:21.920 it's 82.

00:07:23.040 People over 80 can get taken out

00:07:24.460 by any number of causes,

00:07:25.780 and COVID is just one of many.

00:07:27.400 We're at the tail end

00:07:28.480 at that point, folks. 0.92

00:07:29.180 I mean, we want people to live

00:07:30.020 as long as possible, absolutely.

00:07:32.500 But COVID is not the scourge

00:07:34.360 they're trying to make it out to be.

00:07:35.360 This isn't an effort

00:07:36.000 to dismiss COVID-19.

00:07:37.700 This is just doing

00:07:38.460 what we've been told to for years

00:07:39.800 and following the science.

00:07:41.600 So for what's been framed

00:07:42.540 as the worst plague seen since the Spanish flu, COVID isn't really that relatively dangerous,

00:07:47.780 especially to younger people. Now let's look at some other numbers. 1,700 people died of overdoses

00:07:53.380 in 2021 alone in one year, 1,700. And that was in Alberta, and most of them were young. So if we

00:08:00.640 really want to save young lives, this is where we need to be looking. COVID-19 is virtually harmless

00:08:06.560 to babies. So let's give Notley a break here. Let's hope we're hitting a tipping point. Maybe

00:08:11.380 Notley and some of her supporters will start seeing the consequences of years of politically

00:08:16.240 motivated fear-mongering with COVID-19. They might realize the cult of irrational pandemic fear

00:08:22.420 that they've created and fed. Perhaps they'll also realize how unforgiving those cancel mobs are.

00:08:28.880 They fostered them, and they can see how quickly those mobs will turn on them when given a chance.

00:08:33.740 These are likely all vain hopes on my part, but one can dream. We can fault Rachel Notley with

00:08:38.440 many things, and I do like pointing them out. Her taking a moment to safely hold and enjoy a

00:08:43.440 perfectly healthy baby, though, isn't one of them. Let's start following the science people. We can't 0.86

00:08:47.800 pretend that we don't have the numbers anymore. Stop the fear and stop the cancelling and swarming.

00:08:53.820 That's what's got me going today. Okay, let's get on to some news with our news director,

00:08:59.640 Dave Naylor. Hey, Dave, how's it going? It's going well, Corey. It's weird to see the left

00:09:06.420 turn on turn on their own, isn't it? I guess they must have must have run out of things to cancel on

00:09:11.520 the right. I guess. Yeah. So some interesting news on the the site at the moment. We're taking a look

00:09:20.520 at a new liberal Trudeau imposed tax on pickup truck owners in Calgary or in Alberta. Sorry,

00:09:27.740 it's going to have thousands of dollars to anybody who wants to buy a pickup truck these days. And

00:09:34.820 And I don't know, Corey, with the insurance or the interest rates going up a full percent today and the full half percent on the price of gas.

00:09:42.880 I'm not sure who can afford them anyways.

00:09:45.080 So we do have our Mike Thomas, real estate expert.

00:09:48.060 He's done a story on the half a percentage point increase this morning announced by the Bank of Canada, blaming the war in the Ukraine.

00:09:57.820 And it's the largest single day jump in probably 20 some years.

00:10:03.760 We've got the Muslim Association of Canada.

00:10:06.020 They are suing the Canada Revenue Agency, saying that they're being audited and they're calling it a case of bias and Islamophobia, charges against the CRA.

00:10:18.420 This is for an ongoing audit that's been going back for years.

00:10:23.520 Those poor people in Saskatchewan hunkered down in the storm can be comforted with the fact that SaskPower has raised their rates.

00:10:32.000 It's 8% that was announced in Saskatchewan.

00:10:36.380 So when they go and turn on their heat or turn on their appliances, keep that in your back of your mind, 8% more.

00:10:44.880 Our Saskatchewan reporter Christopher has also got a story on the Saskatchewan Teachers Federation.

00:10:50.260 They want masks brought back into schools in the province immediately.

00:10:55.760 They're concerned about high rates of COVID and wastewater at the moment.

00:11:00.960 The government says, you know, those things go up and down and there's no need for masks in schools now.

00:11:06.840 But the Teachers Federation are continuing the fear mongering, I guess.

00:11:11.960 We've got a story on the COVID-19 vaccines.

00:11:15.300 The feds are now saying they're only good for about 150 days.

00:11:20.020 So that's urging everybody to get their booster shots as quickly as they can.

00:11:27.380 So we've got lots more to come this afternoon, Corey.

00:11:30.740 How did Jane like the Polly of Rally?

00:11:34.040 Oh, she liked it. 0.99

00:11:34.840 I mean, I dragged her to those things.

00:11:36.120 As I'd said, actually, that was our very first date together.

00:11:38.600 I dragged poor Jane to a Stephen Harper rally.

00:11:41.480 It was for a federal election many years ago, I think 17 or 18 years ago.

00:11:45.260 She must have liked it a little bit because she still hung around with me

00:11:48.480 and still comes out to those things.

00:11:50.640 But she was still pretty tired by the end of it.

00:11:52.600 It's a long time to be standing.

00:11:54.520 It is, and it started more than an hour late.

00:11:57.320 Cars backed up for kilometers on the highway.

00:12:00.100 to get in so are you uh you're taking jane to the gun show i don't know if jane will be interested

00:12:05.540 in coming out to that below she's she's certainly welcome i mean the traffic won't be as bad that

00:12:09.460 was the other thing with trying to get out of the the parking lot after the poly ever alley i mean

00:12:13.300 getting in was ours and getting out we sat in the car for 20 minutes and i mean i tried to get you

00:12:17.860 know i thought we're parked it's dark we should try and uh you know look back in time get a little

00:12:21.380 frisky but jane shut that down as well so i'm not sure how much more luck i'll have bringing

00:12:25.300 her out to a gun show but we'll see all right well good luck with that great thanks dave i'll

00:12:30.820 talk to you later yes we cover all sorts of news i'll probably be in crap with gene when i get home

00:12:35.860 but that's hardly news all right so yes lots of uh things breaking and going on energy you know uh

00:12:43.060 as dave was talking about some costs i i saw an order a story that popped up and it was talking

00:12:48.100 about how uh an expert there's always these experts i think it was cbc that wrote on uh

00:12:52.900 was talking about how Alberta overbuilt its electricity infrastructure, and that's why our

00:12:57.580 bills are so high. Now, there's where we get some truth and lies out of things. Yes, that's part of

00:13:03.960 why we're paying for a whole bunch of infrastructure on this, but they forget to mention that the

00:13:07.360 reason we built a whole lot of that infrastructure is because we're bringing in all these magical

00:13:11.180 windmills and solar projects. That's a part of the infrastructure, too, and those costs are

00:13:15.620 getting passed down to us. The other thing, too, is how can you guys on the left be complaining

00:13:20.140 about us overbuilding electrical infrastructure when we don't have nearly the infrastructure

00:13:24.100 required to transition to power millions of electrical vehicles like the federal government

00:13:29.860 is trying to force us to do. We're going to have to overbuild. We're going to have to overbuild the

00:13:35.480 transmission lines right now because we can't build them in a week or two. We can't build them.

00:13:39.860 I mean, we're looking at eight years. Apparently, we're all going to be in electric cars here. So

00:13:42.740 we'd better get that stuff going. But the CBC, you can't win with them. They complain. They get

00:13:47.200 they're experts to complain that we built too much electrical infrastructure. Yet at the same

00:13:51.440 time, they support idiotic government initiatives trying to force us into electric vehicles that we 0.99

00:13:55.980 don't want, that we can't afford, that aren't efficient, and we don't have the generational 0.99

00:13:58.980 power to power. How do you win in this province? Well, for one, by not listening to the state

00:14:05.260 broadcast or quit listening to CBC and their experts, it's all crap. But energy, our bills 0.98

00:14:10.500 are going up and it's very expensive. Something that's not expensive, I'll do our self plug and

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00:15:26.620 little bit about that after the next guest, and we'll show some video from there because it was

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00:17:20.760 Pamela Jones Kenny asking, is the Western Standard going to be affected by this government licensing

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00:17:29.520 we're going to be recording it probably next week where I'm going to do a show with myself

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00:17:49.720 he wrote a column on that. We applied and qualified. I mean, Rebel got rejected, we qualified.

00:17:54.580 I'm not trying to hire a little horse. I mean, the joke of it all is it's not the government's

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00:18:03.340 point. And Derek went through the whole process and it was quite a process. And at the end of it,

00:18:08.240 they said, Oh, congratulations. You are a Trudeau approved outlet. You are real news in our eyes.

00:18:13.520 So here's all the forms now so you can apply for subsidies. And Derek said, no, no, no, we're not

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00:18:21.080 could. And I guess the bureaucrat he was talking to got quite upset actually when, well, you know,

00:18:26.220 well, what was the point? Why did you put us through all that? Well, we just wanted to see

00:18:29.120 if you'd approve us. And the thing is, with that joke of a thing, once you have their approval,

00:18:35.000 once you become dependent upon them calling you an official media outlet, what's to stop them

00:18:41.940 from yanking the rug out from under you later if they don't like something else you did?

00:18:46.740 It's not an advantage being determined by the federal government as real news or not real

00:18:51.800 It's not their job. That's the last arbiter of who should be allowed to broadcast or print or who should be considered a legitimate source or not. We are in a very, very scary place right now. There was a journalist, I think it was from The Guardian in the UK, and I'd seen a headline with that, and she was pointing out, like, Trudeau is determining who's media and who's not.

00:19:14.260 You know, overseas, people are looking at it like, you guys in Canada are insane, and she's right.

00:19:19.840 And again, we're being embarrassed.

00:19:22.320 But I mean, people don't understand the threats to our liberties, to our freedoms.

00:19:25.860 It's not just self-serving with us as an alternative media outlet.

00:19:30.520 I mean, free press is a hallmark.

00:19:33.100 It's a fundamental right in any democratic nation.

00:19:36.780 You have to leave it unfettered.

00:19:37.980 It doesn't mean you like everything that they put out, that they publish, that they do.

00:19:42.340 But you just stay out of it.

00:19:43.640 You can't have the government start pushing and pulling.

00:19:45.580 That's getting back into Soviet-style politics. 0.88

00:19:49.260 And we don't need Pravda.

00:19:50.440 It's bad enough that we got the CBC

00:19:52.120 taking one and a half billion a year dollars every year.

00:19:55.720 But now they really want to reach out

00:19:57.800 and control every other media outlet in Canada.

00:20:00.340 It's dangerous, it's problematic,

00:20:02.600 and we have to stand up to it.

00:20:05.260 Okay, let's bring our guest in.

00:20:06.440 This is somebody standing up to Ottawa

00:20:08.200 and speaking from, I guess,

00:20:10.100 an independence-minded perspective in Saskatchewan.

00:20:12.880 and this is the new leader of the Buffalo Party of Saskatchewan.

00:20:16.960 Philip, now I'm terrible with Eastern European names, Zajac or Zajac.

00:20:21.580 How shall we pronounce that so I know next time, Philip?

00:20:26.580 Oh, Phil seems to have frozen there.

00:20:30.660 Zajac is the right, you're real close.

00:20:33.460 Okay, okay.

00:20:34.740 I don't want to insult anybody, but it's just better just to ask, I think.

00:20:38.700 So I guess just to give a bit of a rundown,

00:20:41.180 you guys are running a provincial party, of course, in Saskatchewan. You made a bit of a

00:20:44.960 splash as a new independent sort of minded party in the last provincial election, even with a

00:20:49.720 limited number of candidates. You finished third overall, and a few strikingly strong finishes in

00:20:56.080 a number of constituencies out there. But now you're into the post-election doldrums, and I've

00:21:00.940 worked with newer and up-and-coming parties. It's always difficult at that time to keep everything

00:21:04.980 rolling and uh so you're organizing move things along and you are the recently been elected as

00:21:12.060 the new leader then right yep that's correct uh we had a leadership race a couple weeks ago and

00:21:18.600 so i'm the first officially elected leader of the buffalo party and i just want to state you know

00:21:23.340 that we are not a separatist party we are a fair deal for people of saskatchewan party i think that

00:21:32.020 uh our number one goal is to achieve a similar or better deal than what quebec has received from

00:21:38.020 the federal government and i think that's our main job i don't want people to start to push us into

00:21:42.820 that corner that that's our only objective is to separate because that's not it at all um well it's

00:21:49.140 a mantra that because we're going to start to scare people they're going to try and and swing

00:21:52.820 people away from us because they think that's our goal and that's absolutely not it yeah fair enough

00:21:58.180 That's why I was using the term independence repeatedly, because that can apply to a number

00:22:04.860 of things, you know, aside from looking to actually break away from the confederation.

00:22:10.340 Yeah. I was watching your, on the, before I came on today, it's appalling the lack of,

00:22:18.580 you were talking about the communist type of media coverage that's going on in Canada.

00:22:23.000 When the federal government removes the media from a peaceful event that's happening in the city where the government operates, it's an atrocity.

00:22:33.400 The only reason you remove their media is if something wrong is happening.

00:22:37.980 I don't understand what's happening in Ottawa anymore, and it's just time for us to regroup and take a serious look at making things better for the West.

00:22:46.380 Yeah, so in looking at a Western focus, and of course, particularly Saskatchewan focused parties, what sort of policy initiatives are you looking at then to increase, as I said, whilst within confederation, but more independence or autonomy of strength, I guess is a good way to put it. Where are you guys looking to move with that?

00:23:07.100 yeah what we're what we're our plan our core plan is is to basically uh take over our own immigration

00:23:15.500 take over our own taxation and um payments to the east under equalization uh it's it's it's the

00:23:23.820 problem that's that's just been broken for a long time and uh it just can't continue uh the the the

00:23:30.940 The fact that when Saskatchewan and Alberta economies are struggling, and we're still seeing money and equalization doesn't make any sense.

00:23:39.760 The taxation, we see that the federal government is spending our money all over the world. It's money that we don't have.

00:23:47.440 And, and not just my, but their child and their child and their child will be paying for it. And so that's why we want to take over our own taxation.

00:23:55.420 You know, I think we are right now is common sense politics.

00:23:59.960 And that's where we need to get back to none of the none of the people that are in this party are lifetime politicians.

00:24:06.580 We're just people that care about Saskatchewan and we want a good deal for the people here.

00:24:11.480 Yeah, well, in Western provinces, I think particularly Saskatchewan and Alberta are going to be very vulnerable, in my view, in the next couple of years, because we have clearly with the Ukraine, Russia crisis going on.

00:24:23.200 I mean, Ukraine, food prices are definitely going to shoot up.

00:24:25.600 That's one of the biggest providers of food sources and agricultural products in Europe.

00:24:31.040 And that's going to impact Saskatchewan, plus the energy prices.

00:24:33.600 I mean, Saskatchewan being a potash producer, agricultural producer, very resource-based,

00:24:38.000 which is going to be actually kind of, you know, good for the Saskatchewan economy.

00:24:41.620 But whenever Western provinces do well, quite often the central government kind of wants

00:24:45.360 to scoop in and take a bite out of that.

00:24:48.520 Well, we know that's true, you know.

00:24:50.360 And the other part that is happening, which everybody's seen as of April here, the carbon tax has gone up again, which against the federal government, how do we take more money away from the hardworking people in Saskatchewan?

00:25:06.640 Your farmers, your business owners, everybody is paying more in carbon tax now.

00:25:13.060 And we know that, number one, the world needs carbon. We breathe carbon.

00:25:17.920 and um uh saskatchewan is essentially a carbon neutral province right with with uh 0.65

00:25:24.600 again this is just another issue that as a buffalo party we're going to end the carbon tax

00:25:29.880 uh we have a we have a way to do it and and it's just uh we're not going to say it because we

00:25:34.840 the uh sask party keeps cannibalizing our uh our policy which is nice because it's uh just showing

00:25:41.140 that we're an effective opposition even though we're not in government yeah i mean in some

00:25:46.260 sense as a pragmatist, a person, you know, hey, as long as it's getting done, it doesn't really

00:25:49.480 matter who's doing it. But still, then I imagine there are areas and shortcomings with the

00:25:54.860 Saskatchewan party or SAS party and Premier Moe that you guys feel can't be repaired and thus

00:26:01.660 the need for another party, right? Yeah, like it's, I think the Saskatchewan's been looking for an

00:26:09.180 alternative uh you know we've seen over the past 10 years that the ndp really does no um opposition

00:26:16.460 in the uh legislature there's lots of things that you can do as a party to keep the pressure on the

00:26:23.660 sitting party even if you don't have a majority of the votes and we just haven't seen that from

00:26:29.100 the ndp in terms of challenging the sask party on on a lot of the things that have happened here

00:26:35.340 recently. And, and that's something that we will do vigilantly. And we're already starting to do

00:26:40.260 and we're not we don't have anybody sitting in the MLA. Yeah, well, and I've talked about that

00:26:45.400 in the past, you know, I've been involved again, in a lot of up and coming parties, and people say,

00:26:48.980 well, why do you do it? And people forget that they can still serve a purpose. I mean, the goal

00:26:53.620 is always you're going to run to win seats, you're looking to get in there. But if you're gaining

00:26:57.680 steam, if you're gaining momentum, you are going to impact the current policymakers, or at least

00:27:01.960 they're going to be wise if they allow it to impact them. If they don't let it impact them,

00:27:05.500 they will get replaced. If you only have pressure coming from one direction, the party in power is

00:27:10.180 only going to go in one direction. So having multiple perspectives in opposition is very

00:27:14.880 important. Yeah. No, and I think that as a team, we have some fantastic ideas for the province.

00:27:23.580 We have some fantastic ideas how we're going to grow this economy and not tax the people

00:27:29.100 saskatchewan the sask party right now has no ideas of how to make things better here so the only

00:27:34.620 thing they can do is tax everything they possibly can and we saw that in the last budget

00:27:39.340 um you know they've gone down to taxing uh people's gym memberships now uh so you know they

00:27:45.260 want they want you to be healthy and stay out of the hospital system and the medical system by

00:27:49.820 you know staying in shape but we're going to throw a tax on your gym membership that that you

00:27:54.540 and your child and your and every single person pays in the province uh so when you have no ideas

00:27:59.980 and no creativity taxing is your only solution and and uh it's not the way to grow the economy here

00:28:07.340 yeah so um again there's a lot of parallels and somebody's been pointing out with sort of like

00:28:11.580 the the wild rose party in alberta and things like that very much looking out you know regionally

00:28:17.020 one of the things we do here and i i'm wondering if there's going to be any motivation to move

00:28:21.500 that way is you know we go through the the motions at least of electing senators and it doesn't fix

00:28:26.620 the system but at least we get to pick and have some say in who might be appointed on our behalf

00:28:30.540 later and i've been interviewing a number of the conservative leadership candidates and so far

00:28:34.380 aside from shere he kind of talked around it the others all committed said they would

00:28:38.620 appoint our elected senators is saskatchewan ever going to consider doing that sort of initiative

00:28:44.140 yeah we have it's right in our constitution that um and our and our foundation that uh we would

00:28:49.740 prefer that our senators be elected um i think that it's uh uh when when you're appointing people

00:28:56.540 in that position of government uh again it's the buddy system and

00:29:02.140 uh it's not uh fair democratic politics uh it should be open to a vote and that's something

00:29:08.540 that uh we plan to do as a party and uh once we take control of government here we also just

00:29:14.300 another thing that uh that is part of our oh sorry go ahead oh go ahead i just wanted to

00:29:21.100 we have a we also have something in our uh policy that is uh unique um we are going to set term

00:29:27.900 limits on how long you can actually be a representative in government and we're going

00:29:31.900 to install a recall uh process uh because it doesn't matter this is just common sense again

00:29:38.140 if you do poorly in your job and you don't do what's needed to be done for your for your position

00:29:43.020 um you lose your job uh so there needs to be we're going to install the recall process so that if

00:29:48.300 you're not representing your community the way that the community feels they need to be represented

00:29:52.540 they can start a recall process and the mla will have to defend themselves in that process

00:29:59.500 yeah and it's uh about time there's some accountability between elections that's

00:30:03.100 something that people of course are always uh concerned with uh has there been uh more of a

00:30:09.180 a breakdown though on exactly how that policy would work like that just to show a parallel

00:30:12.660 jason kenney campaigned on that and then they gave us a recall policy but what they did was

00:30:17.080 they set the bar so high to initiate it that it's never actually going to happen uh so the the nuts

00:30:23.960 and bolts of the policy is important as the the principle of it uh have you guys been formulating

00:30:28.640 sort of some of the mechanisms of it yeah we when when you look at that number you know you don't

00:30:34.260 want it to be a um you know a willy-nilly number where you know people can just do it because you've

00:30:39.940 got you know half of the uh community upset uh but it is over 60 you know is what we're looking at

00:30:46.420 for uh a number you know somewhere in that range and um and then again after that if it does pass

00:30:52.740 that there is the recall the candidate would have the opportunity to rerun in the election right so

00:30:58.180 So it's a big commitment to take the position as leader, as an MLA.

00:31:06.260 It also is a big commitment to represent your community properly.

00:31:09.500 So it has to be hand in hand.

00:31:12.160 And, you know, the candidate obviously won for a reason the first time.

00:31:17.620 So if they do get recalled, they do have the opportunity to rerun.

00:31:22.680 Great.

00:31:23.240 So at this point, I imagine you guys are working on organizing local,

00:31:26.980 uh is it still called constituency associations in saskatchewan the provincial equivalent i guess

00:31:30.820 of an eda like you're getting your ground uh organization together at this point yeah we've

00:31:35.540 we've had a very the board has had a very solid plan of going how we were going to go forward

00:31:40.340 number one was to get to our first agm to get an elected board and elected uh uh representatives uh

00:31:46.340 you know the previous board was all appointed and and volunteers uh we also passed our constitution

00:31:52.020 So, we have a posted constitution that we were very proud of, and I think that it sets a good framework for the party for the next 100 years.

00:32:02.280 The next step was to have the leadership election, which was a very smooth process for us. And we got that done and out of the way next at the end of May. Now, our next step is our policy and governance convention. We've had over 100.

00:32:15.900 Submissions, you know, by members that are very concerned about policy and how they want to see the party represent them going forward, which I think is fantastic.

00:32:27.240 This is not a, and I've said this before. This is not an autocratic type of government. We are a bottom up driven party and the members have a big say in what what happens.

00:32:39.420 and so all this policy is uh getting accumulated right now and on the 29th of may we'll be having

00:32:45.660 the policy and governance convention in regina once the policy is completed and voted on then

00:32:52.220 we go into the next step of building uh we call them constituency associations here and uh and

00:32:57.660 then of course candidate retention after that yeah it's quite a process uh you're still i guess at

00:33:03.660 this point about what three years from your next provincial election that you would expect or two

00:33:08.540 and a half yeah it's about two um you know two and a little bit they could they could call it

00:33:14.060 you know anytime between one and a half and two and a half but i'm sure it won't be till near the

00:33:18.540 end so uh it's it's a good like i said we have a good uh uh plan and we're just you know uh putting

00:33:26.940 our strategic plan together and making sure that we're doing it the right way excellent well uh

00:33:33.660 where can uh then i direct people to make sure they can keep up with the events find out the

00:33:37.660 details for your your uh convention coming up and get involved in general yep if it's uh you can just

00:33:44.460 go to buffalapartysk.ca and go to our webpage you can sign up right there you have to be a member

00:33:52.220 before the 13th of may um the reason we do a cut off is because uh we we uh we have to set a time

00:34:01.420 and we have to set a uh you know for the place where we're holding the event we need to have

00:34:05.420 numbers right so basically it's two weeks before you have to be a member if you want to come to the

00:34:10.380 event and vote for policy and how this party is going to move forward we have a lot of passionate

00:34:16.940 people in our membership and it's it's exciting to see the thoughtfulness and the submissions

00:34:22.620 that we've received already great well i really appreciate you coming on today to give us an

00:34:28.380 update on the party as i said it really caught a lot of people's interest in the last provincial

00:34:32.620 election sort of out of the blue and did more you know better if people familiar with provincial

00:34:37.240 politics should understand that that's quite an impact for a new party with a small number of

00:34:41.640 candidates there's clearly a seed of something going on there and i'm looking forward to seeing

00:34:45.860 how you guys develop in the in the days to come well thanks cory it was really exciting for us

00:34:51.360 too you know um every all the candidates worked hard um we we ran at 17 ridings and we still

00:34:57.340 finished third in the overall in the election so um just imagine what's going to happen when we run

00:35:01.960 in 61 ridings in the next one. Well, we're looking forward to watching that develop as it comes. So

00:35:07.660 thanks again. Maybe we'll check in after your meeting and see how things are going with the

00:35:11.640 party later on. Okay. Thanks, Corey. Have a great day. Thanks for having me. Thank you. So yes,

00:35:18.100 that was from the Buffalo Party of Saskatchewan, Phil Zajac. I didn't listen the first time when

00:35:23.900 he corrected me. And yeah, they're organizing and they're hitting the ground running out in

00:35:27.500 Saskatchewan. As I said, I watched that in the provincial election. I've taken part in, you know,

00:35:32.740 forming of small parties and getting things rolling. And to have a kickoff for a new party

00:35:37.560 like that was pretty good. As I mentioned at the start too, though, the doldrums, the difficult

00:35:41.040 times between elections, and it's hard to get the interest, it's hard to get the donors, it's hard

00:35:45.160 to get people to meetings, but it's very important because you need to build that basis and that

00:35:50.080 infrastructure if you really want to contest the next election when the time comes, because it'll

00:35:53.900 sneak up on you faster than you anticipate at times. So let's see, I'm going to get onto some

00:36:01.220 federal issues here, actually, and talk about, I went to up here, Polyev's rally last night

00:36:06.820 down in Spruce Meadows in Calgary, and boy, was it ever something else. So I'm going to kick it

00:36:11.440 off with a clip from the rally, from Mr. Polyev's speech, and I'll talk a little bit more about what

00:36:15.880 I observed and what I concluded out of that. If one person gets more control, then someone else

00:36:21.760 has to get less control right there's only so much to go around and that's why when government

00:36:27.840 gets big and bossy and powerful people start turning on each other can you remember a time

00:36:33.520 when we've ever been this divided east versus versus west vaccinated versus unvaccinated i

00:36:39.920 can't remember a time when people were turning on each other in this way but it is by you're right

00:36:45.680 when his dad was prime minister i remember i was a kid here in albert and it was pretty bad then

00:36:49.920 too, wasn't it? The same thing happened.

00:36:52.300 Big, powerful, controlling

00:36:54.120 government turned people

00:36:55.820 against each other. Before Trouba the First,

00:36:57.900 there was no separatist movement in Quebec.

00:37:00.160 And all of a sudden, it came alive. Before

00:37:01.840 Trouba the Second, separatism was

00:37:03.980 dead in Quebec and not even spoken of

00:37:06.060 in Alberta. And now, it's been in power

00:37:07.980 for seven years. We have two regions

00:37:09.560 where there are separatist movements alive

00:37:12.060 and well. Unfortunately. Well,

00:37:14.260 listen, I understand why you feel

00:37:16.100 that way. I understand the

00:37:17.880 frustration of being a Western Canadian

00:37:20.000 and feeling like your central government has

00:37:21.800 attacked you. I get it.

00:37:23.740 But I want to tell you something else.

00:37:25.840 You have many friends right across this country

00:37:27.980 who are on your side. I meet them

00:37:29.800 every single day. We believe in

00:37:31.840 this country and we believe in all of its

00:37:33.940 people who want to build pipelines

00:37:35.620 across the nation. The Energy East pipeline

00:37:37.900 would have gone right through my riding

00:37:39.480 and two-thirds of my constituents were

00:37:41.780 happy to support it right there in Ottawa.

00:37:44.120 I want you to know now.

00:37:47.880 As we have them, we're gone.

00:37:49.240 And with the Republican government who's born and bred in Alberta, you will know that the era of calling Alberta on Alberta and Western Canada to pay up and shut up will be over forever.

00:38:01.640 so yeah that was a clip out of a speech that was about uh maybe 45 minutes i think and we

00:38:18.440 streamed it if you want to look at the the western standards youtube or facebook channels you'll be

00:38:22.240 able to see it we streamed the the entire thing and you can see the whole speech the crowd was

00:38:26.600 It was something else.

00:38:27.800 I was told by an organizer, I believe the fire capacity of that venue was 5,500 people.

00:38:34.820 And at that point when he talked to me, they figured they had about 4,500 people there.

00:38:38.960 For a leadership rally on a Thursday night in bad weather, that is outstanding and the atmosphere.

00:38:46.840 And what was interesting was, yes, he, well, he, Paliyev is a very smart man and a good political player.

00:38:53.040 He knows his audience and he certainly spoke to alienation.

00:38:56.600 You don't hear that out of the federal leaders very often, though.

00:38:59.340 When I tried to get those issues out when I had Mr. Sherey on as a guest on the show, for example, he just didn't want to go there.

00:39:05.800 Polyev is hitting it straight on.

00:39:08.460 I mean, none of them like to even admit that there might be independence movements in the West.

00:39:11.580 So hearing him acknowledge it, though, of course, he's looking to correct it and he's looking on a federal point of view.

00:39:17.300 You might have heard that voice yell from the background as a heckler, if you don't do it, we're gone or something along that mind.

00:39:22.880 I think people are at the end of their rope in the West.

00:39:25.520 There's no doubt about that. We're tired. But Poliev seems to be inspiring a lot of people.

00:39:32.740 We're watching him come across the West. All of his rallies have been just outright packed.

00:39:37.820 And in central Canada, he's been doing quite well. We'll see how his campaign progresses

00:39:42.440 in the Maritimes and through Quebec. Of course, those are areas the Conservative Party has a

00:39:47.900 weighted system, riding by riding, for running for the leadership. So even if Poliev completely

00:39:54.760 sweeps the prairie provinces in the West. It's similar to our federal elections. He's got to win

00:39:59.380 some good support in Central Canada and Eastern Canada if he's going to win it, though.

00:40:03.780 It doesn't matter if you've got 100,000 people vote for you in a handful of Alberta ridings.

00:40:08.240 You've got to have those votes all the way across the country.

00:40:11.520 Paulyev, again, though, he's a very effective campaigner. He's got a great deal of momentum.

00:40:15.260 He's certainly got a degree and base of support in Central Canada. I mean, it's an Ontario seat.

00:40:19.280 what was refreshing with his speech,

00:40:25.300 because we know they're watching,

00:40:26.360 they're always looking.

00:40:27.720 He was unapologetically conservative.

00:40:29.800 There was no beating around the bush with it.

00:40:33.340 He outright called to end the carbon tax.

00:40:35.860 Of course, it's going to be popular here,

00:40:37.140 but no BS.

00:40:37.600 Of course, we heard that

00:40:38.240 from the last conservative leader,

00:40:39.800 and he completely flip-flopped on that.

00:40:42.660 So we'll see.

00:40:43.200 But I believe people find Polly

00:40:45.240 have a lot more believable

00:40:46.300 when it comes to that.

00:40:47.680 Something else interesting

00:40:48.700 is is poly have brought up the truckers and saying he respects truckers he he didn't say so

00:40:53.100 specifically on the convoy but he made a point of reaching out and talking about truckers themselves

00:40:58.620 because that's the the point that the defenders of the status quo were using to attack him with

00:41:03.920 they're mostly saying he was supportive of the convoy this is a guy who's inappropriate for 0.98

00:41:08.300 office and blah blah blah the same old crap i'm i'm watching the trump comparison starting to come 0.97

00:41:12.460 up here's some of the irony when you see people spitting out the word populism 0.99

00:41:17.520 as if it's a dirty word.

00:41:19.740 They make it a pejorative.

00:41:21.240 Guys, another word for populism is democracy.

00:41:24.620 He's appealing to a large number of people

00:41:27.420 and they're coming out.

00:41:29.100 And I'm sorry if authoritarians don't like that,

00:41:33.000 but it's a good thing.

00:41:35.720 It's a good thing.

00:41:36.580 He's getting out there and he's listening to people

00:41:39.040 and he's modeling his policies

00:41:40.740 based on what he's hearing.

00:41:43.240 Or at least again,

00:41:44.440 And now we've been bait and switched many a number of times from federal politicians in the past.

00:41:50.040 I would hope and think that Mr. Polyev isn't doing the same thing, but he's not trying to pussyfoot around.

00:41:57.020 You know, I'm hoping to get him on the show again.

00:41:59.220 I had him on before. It was a very good interview, but he was very contained.

00:42:04.600 He was being very careful to stay within talking points.

00:42:06.860 I couldn't pull him away from the basics.

00:42:08.740 And I found that with every candidate I brought on, you do have to be careful.

00:42:11.420 It's this world of gotcha politics.

00:42:13.160 It's this world of you say one sentence the wrong way, it gets pulled out of context, and they cancel you.

00:42:20.280 But he's also not trying to put out a couch's words or liberal light or things like that.

00:42:26.860 His speech was very direct in commitments for energy and commitments for the West and calling out the CBC.

00:42:35.240 That was great.

00:42:35.960 The whole room just erupted in cheers when Polyev said he's going to defund the CBC.

00:42:41.740 I do feel, I really do, for the reporters, the guys who are there.

00:42:46.360 And, you know, when you go to these events now, CBC, they used to have the, they'd wear

00:42:49.700 the CBC jacket and their camera would have stickers all over it, so CBC and their microphone.

00:42:53.580 They were there.

00:42:54.580 But I tell you, there's no branding on their stuff anywhere.

00:42:58.180 And I don't want to see any reporters ever intimidated.

00:43:02.520 We shouldn't do that.

00:43:03.220 I don't care if it's CBC or others.

00:43:05.620 But at the same time, it's good to see that they're learning that the old establishment

00:43:09.900 media is falling by the wayside.

00:43:11.740 people, particularly out here, have absolutely no use for it. And that was one of the most

00:43:18.040 rousing cheers that came throughout the night. Again, I mean, it's funny when you see right or

00:43:23.820 left, when you see populism, a lot of it comes to the same things. He's talking about the digital

00:43:28.720 currencies again. And he talked about how that could be a way that we could, what was his term

00:43:32.980 for it? Oh, I can't remember now, but something about, you know, keeping money in people's

00:43:38.900 pockets rather than the people with yachts. The good buzzwords. And I mean, he pulled a gentleman

00:43:44.080 out of the audience, brought him on stage, did some spontaneous chatter, if it was indeed

00:43:49.720 spontaneous or incredibly well planned, who knows. But the place was jammed. It was just

00:43:54.620 jammed to the rafters. And I spoke to a few people there. The other thing that was interesting was

00:44:01.700 I was speaking to new political people. You know, I've been playing around these political circles

00:44:08.120 in Alberta for a long time. I'm a political wiener. We know that. I go to these meetings,

00:44:12.600 I do these things. And you see a lot of the same people all the time. Something that I think is

00:44:17.140 going to get the establishment nervous is a lot of the people I ran across at the Polyev event last

00:44:21.740 night were not the usual suspects. They weren't the usual political players. These were different

00:44:26.920 people who felt inspired to come out and take part in something like this. He's engaging new

00:44:31.480 folks. Oh, there were a whole lot of the usual people there as well, but he's pulling out new

00:44:35.540 ones. And that could be indicative of somebody who, I mean, if there's two steps to this,

00:44:39.900 he would have to win the leadership. And then of course he had have to win a general election in

00:44:43.700 order to accomplish anything. But boy, he's got the West excited right now. And we're due for a

00:44:49.720 little excitement. Overall, I think some of it's a bit of a battle in futility. We've talked about

00:44:55.180 that. I think my next guest will be able to cover a little of that. We've got some serious systemic

00:44:59.420 issues in Canada. We've got a much bigger problem than just who's sitting at the helm in the federal

00:45:04.060 government. But it is always better for us, at least when we have a benign person in power in

00:45:10.000 Ottawa versus one who outright doesn't like us. And that's what we've got right now with Trudeau.

00:45:15.480 So we're watching that race develop. And then there's others it's almost turning into so far.

00:45:21.280 Also Rands, you know, when you look at Brown, when you look at Lesley Lewis and Charest,

00:45:26.680 he's not setting the world on fire. I mean, this is really a blast from the past,

00:45:30.600 But we can't underestimate them all yet.

00:45:32.760 This is a long campaign.

00:45:34.480 That's part of it, too.

00:45:35.480 I mean, they aren't voting until September 10th, and that's an eternity.

00:45:39.020 A whole lot of things can change between now and then.

00:45:42.740 I think they've got 10 or 11 people looking to run in that race now so far.

00:45:47.380 The entrance requirements are $300,000, $100,000 of which is a deposit.

00:45:52.260 But still, I've got a feeling a good number of those guys aren't actually going to end up on the list

00:45:56.760 whenever that cutoff hits, which I think is in June or something, or maybe May. We'll be down

00:46:01.680 to four, maybe five candidates, and then we'll be able to narrow down. But I think the race will

00:46:06.020 start narrowing at that point, too. I mean, especially if one's way out in the lead, they're

00:46:09.140 going to have to work very hard to figure out how to, well, we'll start to see political battles,

00:46:14.600 whether it's a matter of bringing their own candidates up to rival Mr. Polyev, or trying

00:46:19.640 to drag Polyev down. And that's when it starts getting dangerous, too, when you can rip your

00:46:22.480 own party apart. A leadership race can be a building exercise for a party. It can be a

00:46:27.580 productive thing. It can be a good thing. But if it goes negative, it can turn into a civil war

00:46:31.860 and you could end up with a split party at the end of it. There's nothing that Trudeau and Jagmeet

00:46:38.360 Singh would like to see more than a split conservative option coming at them on the

00:46:43.680 federal front. And it's been interesting to watch the development too. I see Maxime Bernier has been

00:46:50.900 taking shots at Polyev. It sounds like Polyev and his attention he's grabbing in these large 0.69

00:46:56.760 rallies and things like that is eating some of Bernier's lunch. And he's feeling a little

00:47:01.540 vulnerable there. That's another aspect going on. And that's what's got to be wondered about this

00:47:05.720 too, though. So this rally was well attended, very high energy in the room. But how much does

00:47:13.260 it represent of everybody else? I mean, Bernier held some very big high energy rallies as well.

00:47:18.280 He held a huge one in Strathmore.

00:47:20.100 He had a big one in Ontario.

00:47:21.460 But a lot of that was all riding on COVID mandates.

00:47:25.780 It was pushing back on that,

00:47:27.080 which people are very motivated to do

00:47:29.060 and get involved with and push back with.

00:47:31.180 But it has a hard ceiling.

00:47:32.880 You know, it represents 10, 15% of the country,

00:47:36.480 which is significant.

00:47:37.500 It's millions of people,

00:47:39.280 but it's not nearly enough to win an election.

00:47:41.540 So again, in the general election,

00:47:43.880 despite having being well-funded

00:47:45.280 and having large, well-attended rallies

00:47:46.980 and everything else,

00:47:47.660 the People's Party of Canada wasn't a realistic threat in any single riding in the general

00:47:53.600 election. Is Polyev reaching out to something more broad than that as he's galvanizing people?

00:47:59.120 Or is it perhaps a small core of enthusiastic ones? We'll see as this develops. But it was

00:48:08.900 quite a rally to attend. Okay, before I get to my next guest, I'm just going to speak one more time

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00:49:40.180 them keep standing up for you. All right. So let's bring in, just got to get that up there,

00:49:48.140 Rob Anderson from the Free Alberta Strategy. And we'll have a little more independence-minded talk.

00:49:54.020 And I never tire of independence-minded talk. So hey, Rob, it's good to see you.

00:49:58.760 Good to see you, Corey. How are you doing?

00:50:00.200 Oh, good. Ranting, raving as usual. And now I'm finally actually doing it for a living.

00:50:07.320 So it's win, win, win. Good for you. That's awesome. Good to be here today.

00:50:11.900 Yeah. Thanks for coming on. We haven't heard from you in a little bit. I mean, I had

00:50:15.880 Derek Fromm on a little while back and I also had Dr. or Professor Cooper on,

00:50:22.200 but we didn't quite talk about the strategy. And basically I'd like to see an update,

00:50:26.580 You know, how are things going with the group?

00:50:28.540 How's it been moving forward since you guys kind of launched last fall?

00:50:32.380 Oh, it's been great.

00:50:33.300 We've had 14 town halls, Zoom town halls across the province,

00:50:37.020 and we invited supporters from all over, all 87 constituencies across Alberta

00:50:44.320 to participate in one of these 14 town halls.

00:50:47.840 We've had about 3,000 people thereabouts attend as we've held these.

00:50:54.340 We try to keep the groups pretty small to allow so that people can ask questions and so forth.

00:51:00.280 So each each has been about about 100 or 200 or 300, depending on on the day.

00:51:06.300 And we've obviously been out there talking to a lot of MLAs.

00:51:10.020 We've had 10 elected MLAs co-host these town halls with us.

00:51:15.180 They're very supportive of various parts of the Free Alberta strategy.

00:51:20.220 And yeah, we're just kind of, I would say, getting to the end of phase one, which was kind of

00:51:25.820 generally introducing the concept to Albertans. And now we're kind of looking at what our phase

00:51:32.260 two should be, which is, you know, to see some of these ideas turned into law.

00:51:38.000 Great. Well, I guess in a sense, you could have some opportunity coming soon. It was impressive

00:51:43.140 seeing some of the government MLAs who have come out and endorsed or been supportive of this.

00:51:47.320 Well, the government itself isn't necessarily on board, but you'll need them if you want some

00:51:52.220 of those goals to be met, such as the Provincial Police Force or the Banking Act and some of the

00:51:56.820 things you proposed. Which of those do you think the government might embrace? I mean, right now,

00:52:01.660 because they're kind of in the midst of a bit of turmoil, it also makes a lot of people more

00:52:05.200 receptive to embracing some change and different approaches. Yeah, I know. And it's great.

00:52:11.160 Obviously, Daniel Smith is one of the declared potential candidates here in the leadership

00:52:16.620 potential leadership race I guess we could say that may be coming up depending on what happens

00:52:21.640 in May and she's been very supportive of of the strategy so I haven't heard much from Brian Jean

00:52:29.120 on that on that front he doesn't seem as supportive but he's just been more quiet not

00:52:35.360 wanting to to really comment on those issues so we want to make sure we're very active if this does

00:52:41.060 get into a leadership race to make sure that our supporters are well aware of who supports

00:52:46.740 this strategy and who doesn't. The most important, I would say the one that is catching a little bit

00:52:51.500 of fire, I mean, there's lots of supporters of the provincial police force and Alberta pension

00:52:56.340 plan. Those are ideas from the old 2001 firewall letter. But the new idea that has clearly

00:53:02.620 captured people's imagination is the idea of passing an Alberta sovereignty act. And this

00:53:09.300 isn't a separation act. It's not a call for separation or passing that type of legislation.

00:53:14.000 What the Alberta Sovereignty Act would do is it would say that it would allow, it would give the

00:53:20.560 provincial legislature authority to deny enforcement within the province of Alberta of any federal law

00:53:28.680 or court decision that it felt was outside of or interfered with provincial jurisdiction or was an

00:53:36.140 unfair attack on the people of Alberta and at first people were saying well can we do that

00:53:40.860 and once we explain that Quebec's been doing this for several years for several decades actually

00:53:46.140 now they do it through their their constitution their national assembly and so forth but they

00:53:49.980 are a nation within Canada that's what they're declared Ottawa has agreed with that

00:53:53.920 we need to do the same thing here and we have the right to do that we have the right to say because

00:53:58.520 we control so many mechanisms so much enforcement in the province we can say look when the carbon

00:54:04.460 tax comes or the emergencies act is is invoked by uh the prime minister we can say you know what

00:54:09.620 fill your boots ottawa that one is outside your jurisdiction or it's an attack in albertans we're

00:54:13.960 not going to enforce it within the province of alberta so you can do whatever you want to us

00:54:17.580 you can court challenge you can do whatever you want ottawa we're still not going to enforce it

00:54:21.280 here and that is what the alberta sovereignty act is all about it gives us a trump card so to speak

00:54:26.660 it gives us a way of not always um allowing ourselves to be beat up by these dictates that

00:54:33.460 are coming from Ottawa attacking our province. So has there been any, as you said, you've been

00:54:39.580 at least somewhat in communication with some of the people, it's such an awkward circumstance we're

00:54:43.760 in, you know, who are potentially vying for a leadership should it become open in the near

00:54:47.320 future. With the incumbent leader, Premier Kenney, has there been any communication with Premier

00:54:53.560 Kenney on this or would you think there would be stays on after this review? We've attempted to,

00:55:01.360 But Jason Kenney is an avowed Federalist.

00:55:03.840 And what that means for him, I think, is that Alberta doesn't really have a right to assert its provincial sovereignty, so to speak.

00:55:14.580 It's independence from Ottawa.

00:55:16.020 It can ask.

00:55:17.100 It can cry.

00:55:17.880 It can put billboards up and put trade offices in Ottawa.

00:55:21.660 But it can't really do anything.

00:55:24.440 and he's and he's made it very clear in his comments that he's not really willing to go past

00:55:30.360 you know so far he's examined the idea of a provincial police force because that's something

00:55:35.460 that quebec and ontario already do he's examined the idea of a pension plan uh because that's

00:55:40.880 something obviously that quebec already does and that we have the right to do here um within the

00:55:45.320 constitution but and within the legislation as it's written now uh federally on on the pension

00:55:50.380 but uh the pension plan however he's not a he hasn't done those things so he's he's talk talk

00:55:56.460 talk talk done nothing and b if it is anything that requires um i would say if it's anything

00:56:03.820 controversial uh then he is uh he's clearly sure that he's opposed to that so an example would be

00:56:10.860 the emergencies act when that was invoked um he had an uh an opportunity to do exactly what quebec

00:56:16.860 did in the same situation and that is call the legislature say uh put a motion on the table that

00:56:22.780 the emergencies act would not be enforced within the province of alberta uh just as quebec did uh

00:56:28.460 and uh he didn't he just complained he said we we shouldn't have had to invoke the emergencies act

00:56:33.420 that type of weak leadership is the reason why one of the reasons main reasons why

00:56:38.860 alberta is in the predicament uh that it is today we've just had too many leaders that are

00:56:43.340 unwilling to fight for our provincial rights and our people when they're attacked by Ottawa. And

00:56:48.220 it's, I sure hope it changes going forward, but I don't think it'll be through him.

00:56:52.920 No, and, you know, something should be reiterated and it can't be enough times. And you mentioned

00:56:58.360 earlier, there's nothing you're proposing that isn't being done in other parts of Canada. Like

00:57:02.340 this has been that frustration since the Alberta Agenda firewall letter as it was framed. You know,

00:57:08.380 we were framed as extreme back then for trying to promote such things, but yet we're not asking for

00:57:13.100 anything that another province hasn't already done for itself. I mean, we've got a very valid

00:57:17.480 case to stand up for ourself and defend these actions, but we just can't seem to get a provincial

00:57:21.880 government with the will to do it. No, that's exactly it. And people sometimes like to paint

00:57:27.660 it as, like you say, extreme or that you want to break up the country, this sort of thing.

00:57:32.900 But we have to understand that we have a very dysfunctional country right now. I mean, we have

00:57:38.300 essentially a federal government that has imposed economic sanctions on a couple of its provinces,

00:57:44.760 making it impossible for us to export our most important resource and develop it in the way that

00:57:50.560 is best for our citizens, A. And B, that if we continue down this road, what is the inevitable

00:57:57.220 conclusion? The inevitable conclusion of the way that people like Justin Trudeau and Jagmeet Singh

00:58:02.420 And this type of federalism at all costs, almost a quasi dictatorial system that they have right now with Ottawa dictating policy and interfering with every single area of provincial jurisdiction, is it's going to lead eventually to the breakup of Canada.

00:58:20.660 So if you want the biggest threat to Canada, Canadian unity is sitting in the prime minister's chair right now.

00:58:25.800 It's that type of federalism that he's deployed that is the root cause of the disunity that we have in this country.

00:58:36.860 What the Free Alberta Strategy proposes is a strategy that, frankly, every province should be looking at.

00:58:43.420 The idea is here we need to take, and I will say Pierre Paulevé in his speech yesterday, as well as throughout the campaign that I've seen, has been talking about this.

00:58:55.260 the idea that we have to get power out of Ottawa and back to the provinces. And that's the key to

00:59:00.940 saving this country is Ottawa is too big. It's completely out of touch. It's completely corrupt

00:59:08.140 and power hungry. And we need to make sure that the power to govern the people within this country

00:59:15.240 is primarily held by the provincial governments. And that means a decentralization of power from

00:59:21.260 Ottawa. And the free Alberta strategy really is that it's taking back as many of our jurisdictional

00:59:26.420 rights as possible, exercising them to the fullest extent possible to ensure that the people of

00:59:32.840 Alberta are actually in control of their own government, their own destiny, not some quasi

00:59:38.820 tyrants in Ottawa. That's just, that's not appropriate, I don't think. Yeah, well, there's

00:59:43.460 an irony in the whole concept and the division going on is people who are strongly connected

00:59:49.420 with confederation, don't want to see it split up. They don't want to see a province leave.

00:59:53.440 Yet they feel that supporting more centralized government would be the way to force us to be

00:59:58.560 more unified. And they don't seem to understand if we stay that way, that is a secessionist's

01:00:03.000 best friend. If you keep that intractable status quo that leaves us with nothing but the nuclear

01:00:08.180 option at the end, the path to unity is decentralization. And they just can't seem

01:00:15.140 to get that though like i use switzerland all the time as an example 26 cantons four official

01:00:20.580 languages we can barely manage two on a country you know much much smaller and the reason you

01:00:26.980 never hear of a secessionist movement out of their democracy is because their federal government is

01:00:30.900 exceedingly limited and they devolve the power to all of those little regions and there's a great

01:00:35.460 deal of diversity between those regions but we can't seem to embrace that we seem to feel if we

01:00:39.380 we can just get the feds to crack down hard enough, we'll be unified. And it's backfiring.

01:00:43.880 Yeah. And that's the thing is people, you know, I think there's a, there's a Star Wars quote for

01:00:49.380 those Star Wars fans on that, you know, the tighter your, the tighter your grip, the more

01:00:53.460 things will, the more that things slip through your fingers. And there's, there's, that's the

01:01:01.280 problem with this federalism that you're seeing in not only in Canada, I would say, but increasingly

01:01:06.760 so in the United Kingdom and in the United States, where you see these big federal governments

01:01:13.140 continue to grow, continue to balloon, and they're continuing to find ways to interfere

01:01:19.180 with provincial or state's rights. And you see this, like, for example, just recently with the

01:01:25.060 new daycare program here federally, child care is so clearly a provincial jurisdiction,

01:01:31.220 it couldn't be more clearly a provincial jurisdiction. And yet, here we have the

01:01:34.980 federal government coming along with money that they've printed causing this massive inflation

01:01:39.680 that we've seen um coming with printed money saying you know what provinces we know we know

01:01:44.660 child care is your jurisdiction we understand that but if you follow our rules we're going to give

01:01:49.960 you this pile of cash but that means you're going to have to have a universal daycare program and

01:01:54.620 it's going to be have to set up this exact way and and this is how it's all going to be run and

01:01:59.000 we're going to control you know we're price controls this that the other thing and throw

01:02:02.700 out the free market. And you've got to do this if you're going to get this money. Otherwise,

01:02:06.220 you're not going to get the money and they're going to get free daycare in Quebec. But you

01:02:09.680 in Alberta, you're not going to get free daycare. Now, of course, no one wants to talk about the

01:02:13.620 shortages and the decrease in quality that such ridiculous policies cause in the end. Certainly,

01:02:23.260 Quebec has gone through that and seen that firsthand and had to basically return to

01:02:26.600 the private sector for help in dealing with the shortages and the lack of quality care.

01:02:32.320 But that's the issue is that Ottawa, whether it's daycare, whether it's health care, social services, property rights with the gun, with the gun buyback garbage, all that stuff is all designed for the federal government to use money that they've printed in order to take over provincial areas of jurisdiction.

01:02:51.360 And then some they just do outright, like, for example, the carbon tax, the emissions caps, which are clearly a tax on our resource sector and our ability to develop our resources, which is obviously a provincial jurisdiction.

01:03:03.900 So this is what we find ourselves in. And if we don't put a stop to it, it is going to inevitably lead to the breakdown of this country.

01:03:11.300 Yeah, so you guys have been, as you said, holding on to online town hall meetings and in communication with MLAs, with the government. Have you been in communication with some of the other parties, the Wildrose Independence parties, things like that? Like you're not a partisan organization. So have you been reaching out to and communicating with some of the other organizations as well?

01:03:29.640 We have. We've had two of the independent caucus members, Todd Lowe and Andrew Barnes, support and endorse the initiative, which is great.

01:03:40.540 I have spoken to it with Paul Heyman, who's the leader of the Wildrose Independence Party.

01:03:46.560 They don't have any MLAs, so I haven't obviously haven't had discussions with any MLAs in that party.

01:03:51.460 But I think that a lot of the things that they're saying are promoting certain aspects of the Free Alberta strategy.

01:03:59.020 I have even reached out to the NDP party. I've heard absolute crickets on that, not surprisingly.

01:04:05.800 But I think, you know, Corey, you and I have been through a lot during the Wild Rose days and all how hard it is to start a new party.

01:04:15.840 My only concern is that I am concerned about a fracture in this party.

01:04:22.260 And I think, you know, the number one cause of such a fracture, frankly, is sitting in the premier's chair right now.

01:04:26.320 But I do worry that if conservatives aren't unified on some of these core issues here in Alberta, that we might be taking a huge step back by dividing the vote and seeing the NDP unfortunately win.

01:04:40.180 So my hope is, is that I do hope that there is a way to keep the conservative movement generally unified so that we can move some of these initiatives in the Free Alberta strategy forward.

01:04:52.680 So far, the temperature, I would say, is that, yeah, the Wild Rose supports it.

01:04:57.780 The UCP seems quite supportive of it as well, other than the leader.

01:05:03.420 But the NDP does not.

01:05:05.660 So if they get into power, I think we're going to have four years of nothing happening on the Free Alberta strategy front,

01:05:11.460 which would be a real shame given how much progress we seem to be making.

01:05:15.740 Yeah, well, if we get the NDP in, I've got a feeling we'll have four years of a whole lot of nothing happening on a number of fronts, unfortunately.

01:05:21.140 And that's everybody's biggest fear. We're in such uncharted waters right now. We've never seen

01:05:26.220 anything quite like this. I mean, such a bizarre internal review. And yeah, I mean, everybody's

01:05:32.640 looking at their crystal balls. I don't see how they can come out of this unified unless they

01:05:38.200 change the leadership. That's my view. It's just that even if Premier Caney wins it, there's going

01:05:42.300 to be a big floor crossing. I mean, there's too many MLAs have crossed the line of no return,

01:05:45.920 too many constituency associations. We're going to have more than one party in the legislature.

01:05:50.140 And, uh, yeah, we do all remember how that ended last time, but, uh, we, we will see it. I mean,

01:05:55.880 in the meantime, we can't stop promoting and pushing, you know, important policies and

01:05:59.320 initiatives and ideas. So that's what you guys are up there out the, with the strategy.

01:06:05.280 So have you got more, uh, events coming in the near future and plans then, uh, on promoting

01:06:09.820 the, uh, free Alberta strategy? Well, yeah, we took, we polled our members, uh, um, our folks

01:06:15.440 that had expressed interest in essentially our emailing list, which is about 100,000 people.

01:06:21.180 And we pulled them.

01:06:23.320 We said, okay, let's focus down on one or two of the initiatives within the strategy.

01:06:28.680 We've certainly introduced the entire strategy as best we can, giving people kind of a 50,000-foot

01:06:34.700 idea of what it contains.

01:06:36.680 Now, let's go and look at some specific initiatives now and work on those in our next set of town

01:06:42.260 halls and meetings with MLAs and so forth, see if we can get some real legislation passed.

01:06:46.680 Because, I mean, obviously the strategy entails, you know, 15 to 20 initiatives. It's pretty hard

01:06:52.880 to ask a government to do those all at once. So let's start somewhere in focus. So we polled our

01:06:58.720 members on that and we gave them, should we focus on the Alberta Provincial Police Force, Alberta

01:07:04.640 Pension Plan, Provincial Tax Collection, or the Alberta Sovereignty Act, which we talked about

01:07:09.880 earlier uh i expected that the the winner was going to be the provincial police force that had

01:07:15.160 had a lot of um a lot of uh support on the town halls and so forth but uh i was actually shocked

01:07:22.840 to see that about 70 percent of respondents said that we should be focusing on the alberta

01:07:27.880 sovereignty act uh that was by far and away uh the most uh popular initiative so i think we're

01:07:32.600 going to do that now the provincial police force dovetails very closely with that and it's almost

01:07:37.720 a a prerequisite to the alberta sovereignty act working because if you don't have a police force

01:07:43.480 accountable to alberta it's going to be hard to tell ottawa that we're not going to enforce for

01:07:48.520 example the gun registry a gun registry or something like that in alberta if they still

01:07:52.360 control the rcmp in rural alberta for example so that those are very connected but i think you'll

01:07:57.640 see us focus a lot more on um what we call a notwithstanding clause for provincial rights

01:08:03.560 which is the alberta sovereignty act and getting mlas who also seem very predisposed to the idea

01:08:08.280 especially in rural alberta uh to get on board with that initiative uh and get legislation passed

01:08:14.120 in that regard and uh and uh at the same time in doing so um declare that alberta's withdrawing

01:08:21.480 from the rcmp and uh we'll be establishing and transitioning to an alberta provincial police

01:08:26.280 force in rural alberta for those who do not already have municipal police forces so that's

01:08:30.760 that's what we'll be working on. And we feel very hopeful that we're going to make good progress

01:08:36.800 and see this become a reality. Great. Well, I appreciate the work you're doing. And just to

01:08:41.520 remind people, where can they go out to find more information on what you're up to and what all

01:08:45.400 those policies are in detail? You bet. It's freealbertastrategy.com. And you just, you can

01:08:50.740 sign up for the email list there. We put out emails every couple of months updating you on

01:08:55.340 what we're doing. Obviously, you can attend some events. We don't have our next one's planned

01:09:01.300 because we're going through this transition after the first 14. But in the coming month or so,

01:09:05.540 you should see a whole bunch of events posted there. And then, of course, please sign our

01:09:08.980 petition. Obviously, please donate. We're trying to organize these things at cost. And yeah, just

01:09:15.500 please contribute. And most importantly, tell your family, tell your friends, get them out to events

01:09:20.280 and let's get them continue the movement great well thank you very much again for coming on today

01:09:26.000 rob and keep up the good work and we'll check in down the road perhaps after the leadership i

01:09:30.200 imagine you guys will be working hard if indeed there's a leadership race going to get commitments

01:09:34.800 from the new candidates on pursuing these sorts of initiatives we sure will thanks thanks very

01:09:39.160 much for having me today cory i really appreciate it all right i'll see you later rob so yes that

01:09:43.700 was Rob Anderson with the free Alberta strategy. And yeah, I just, I appreciate, well, as people

01:09:51.080 know, I've been an independence minded person for quite some time and working in those political

01:09:54.900 circles. And it has to be a multi-pronged approach. It has to be pragmatic. I've talked about that

01:10:01.060 before with people saying we want a referendum on independence tomorrow. Hey, so do I kind of,

01:10:06.400 if I thought we could win it, but we can't, we aren't there. We need to get these incremental

01:10:11.620 moves towards it. I mean, you can look at it two ways. If you want Alberta to stay within Canada,

01:10:16.960 well, as I was saying with Rob, these are the ways we could make it more of a palatable

01:10:21.560 relationship and perhaps maintain the unity within the country by bringing in provincial

01:10:26.760 initiatives for autonomy and strength and distancing ourselves from a federal government

01:10:32.060 that doesn't stand up for our interests. By the same token, if you are still completely committed

01:10:36.700 to full independence, well, these are steps you're going to have to make on the way there anyway.

01:10:41.620 you know, those are all those question marks that would be hanging. If you held a referendum

01:10:46.000 tomorrow, I could say already, if I was, say, an opponent in that referendum, I wanted to

01:10:51.040 have people vote against Alberta leaving, I'd point out, well, you don't even have a police

01:10:54.860 force yet. You don't have a sovereignty act. You don't know how to get yourself free from

01:10:59.880 the federal government. You aren't collecting your own taxation. You don't have your own pension

01:11:03.860 plan. You aren't ready to go. I can't vote for, and I don't think people should vote for it.

01:11:08.460 careful with what I'm saying here. I'm playing devil's advocate. You're not ready to leave this

01:11:14.540 nation yet. And it's true. It's true. I mean, I've said it before. I believe that confederation,

01:11:21.140 the system is fundamentally broken. It needs constitutional reform, or we're just going to

01:11:25.800 keep going into these battles. But in the meantime, these are things we can do within the system. And

01:11:31.920 it should appeal to people, again, whether you want out or whether you want to improve what we're

01:11:37.620 doing within these policies are good. They're good ideas. They're things that are overdue,

01:11:42.640 and we got to start pushing them. And I get sick of people being dismissed as being

01:11:46.820 extremists for pushing those sorts of things. As Rob said, you know, it's ludicrous. Quebec does 0.97

01:11:51.760 this. Ontario has their own police force. Quebec has their own pension plan. Quebec controls their

01:11:56.000 own immigration. They collect their own tax dollars. Nobody is asking for anything that

01:12:02.320 another province isn't already doing. And that again shows that double standard we live within

01:12:07.240 in Canada when it comes to treatment of the West

01:12:10.420 versus treatment of Central Canada.

01:12:13.020 Clevette Lease asking,

01:12:14.540 how can we reach you besides Twitter?

01:12:16.720 Since I got a question from there.

01:12:18.520 Yeah, you can email me at cmorgan

01:12:21.100 at westernstandard.news.

01:12:25.400 And as well, yeah,

01:12:26.960 if you go onto the site, westernstandardonline.com,

01:12:29.640 you will see contact information

01:12:31.720 for a number of columnists and people

01:12:33.300 and other individuals.

01:12:34.980 I'm on Facebook and I've got a page there,

01:12:37.000 of course, and other things. So certainly reach out and we can talk more at length on things like

01:12:41.180 that. I appreciate emails coming in, especially guest recommendations, things like that, topics

01:12:45.800 we want to cover. You can always use that feedback. It's very important. Brad Haugen asked,

01:12:52.180 do we need our own police force first? So, I mean, it was interesting. Rob talked about that

01:12:55.300 and they're polling their own members and asking about it. And as he said, with this plan for

01:13:02.280 a sovereignty act, the police are part and parcel. So people wanted that act first,

01:13:07.760 but we've got to remember, you're not independent as long as the federal government controls all

01:13:11.300 policing, because they can bring in acts and then direct the RCMP to enforce their will upon us.

01:13:18.060 Whereas if we have our provincial police force, we could tell them to get stuffed. But I mean,

01:13:22.140 it sounds like this organization is democratic. So they're going to focus on the other part first,

01:13:26.120 but it would almost be more practical to get the police force first.

01:13:32.280 So that, hey, Ottawa, you know, spend your own bucks if you want to try and enforce this.

01:13:35.700 We're not going to waste our time on it.

01:13:37.240 Somebody else earlier mentioned the gun grab in High River, for example, when there was a disaster going on.

01:13:44.520 It shows the trustworthiness of our federal government as well, right?

01:13:47.520 Floods like we'd never seen before.

01:13:50.160 The town's underwater.

01:13:51.220 Everybody's evacuated.

01:13:53.080 And the RCMP are out there.

01:13:54.440 What are they doing?

01:13:54.920 They're kicking doors down, doing property damage, stomping with muddy boots across the carpets.

01:13:59.460 But they're not looking to rescue people who were stuck in the houses.

01:14:02.580 They were stealing firearms.

01:14:04.560 And again, they were legal.

01:14:06.860 They were stealing them.

01:14:09.480 And they knew where they were.

01:14:12.200 You know, they won't admit it, but they knew where they were.

01:14:14.440 This registry that supposedly was supposed to be deleted, that was supposed to be gone,

01:14:19.180 the firearms registry that the liberals tried and failed in the 90s,

01:14:22.280 it spent billions of dollars pushing, was supposed to be gone.

01:14:25.980 I mean, there was cases, one case in High River with a fellow who the RCMP broke into his empty house in the floods three different times and finally found some firearms this gentleman had.

01:14:37.400 I guess it was in his basement behind some boxes and took them, stole them.

01:14:42.720 I mean, a lot of these people got their firearms back later, but it doesn't matter.

01:14:45.240 When you took it without permission, you weren't doing it for public safety.

01:14:47.980 If you had to go in three times to even find them,

01:14:51.040 where you supposedly didn't even know they were there,

01:14:54.680 you had to go rooting behind boxes to get these things?

01:14:57.660 What's your interest?

01:14:58.720 What is your goal?

01:15:00.680 I mean, you've been there twice already.

01:15:02.300 You know there's no pets stranded in there.

01:15:04.700 There's no people stranded in there.

01:15:06.740 And again, you'll never admit that they didn't go into other houses three times.

01:15:10.260 They only went into the ones where there were firearms

01:15:11.920 because they knew they were there.

01:15:13.760 So we can't trust the federal government.

01:15:15.920 And no, you can't trust the RCMP.

01:15:18.680 I'm not saying with each and every officer,

01:15:20.380 I'm not saying the next time you get pulled over

01:15:22.040 by an RCMP officer,

01:15:23.420 that they're going to violate your rights

01:15:24.940 or that you shouldn't call them

01:15:26.220 if you live in a rural area

01:15:27.280 and you need police service.

01:15:28.360 There's a lot of fantastic members within the RCMP.

01:15:31.180 See, it's not the member level that's the problem.

01:15:33.500 It's their bosses.

01:15:34.520 And those bosses are in Ottawa

01:15:35.700 and they will serve Ottawa's interests.

01:15:37.900 That's what they have to.

01:15:39.080 A provincial police force won't do that.

01:15:40.580 I find it very hard to believe

01:15:42.400 that a provincial police force,

01:15:44.440 if they were the ones managing things in High River during that disaster,

01:15:47.500 would have wasted all that time kicking down doors trying to steal people's legally owned firearms.

01:15:54.680 But they were ordered from the federal government to get in there and take those things.

01:15:58.840 And the federal government now is even worse than the one that was back then.

01:16:04.180 So we do have to change some things.

01:16:07.020 So getting an Alberta Provincial Police Force, I think there's a number of reasons we should be getting one.

01:16:11.520 And that's not the least among them.

01:16:14.440 And, you know, some people have a lot of, I think that's personally just my guess as to why the polling numbers,

01:16:19.460 and they poll thousands and thousands of people, put changing to a provincial police force, you know,

01:16:25.200 farther down in the priority list than they anticipated.

01:16:27.660 A lot of people have an emotional attachment to the RCMP, to the Mounties, the red surge, you know,

01:16:32.600 the colors always get your man, you know, the good Mountie vision.

01:16:38.180 And the RCMP have done a lot of things, and they've been a very good police force over the decades in the past.

01:16:42.600 But it's changed, guys, it's changed.

01:16:46.360 And just because if we moved away from RCMP

01:16:48.780 doesn't mean all those officers

01:16:50.520 are immediately thrown out of work.

01:16:52.920 I used to say a lot of them won't apply

01:16:54.500 and join the Alberta Provincial Police Force.

01:16:56.080 I mean, they don't just spring out of the ground like daisies.

01:16:58.560 You got to get officers and having some pre-trained ones

01:17:00.840 that would just need new training to a degree,

01:17:02.780 updating or something.

01:17:03.780 Well, that's the logical route.

01:17:05.840 So these officers aren't going to be thrown to the wayside.

01:17:08.280 They will have an opportunity to change forces

01:17:10.280 that they're working with.

01:17:11.220 So don't worry about the emotional attachment. The RCMP would still be there, at least as long as Alberta is still within Canada. They'd just be a federal force. Why not? The Americans do that. The FBI doesn't deal with local policing in the states. It makes sense. The Federal Bureau of Investigation, they deal with larger issues that impact the entire country. They leave policing to the states and the counties and that to deal with. It's not a perfect system, but it keeps the FBI from overwhelming entire states.

01:17:39.180 again, I mean, they're very much more individual rights and independence minded. If

01:17:43.700 the Americans tried to have a police force as overwhelming and as intimidating as the RCMP is

01:17:48.680 in Canada, I don't think the American citizens would put up with that for a minute. So, but again,

01:17:55.400 getting back to what they're going to push with more with the strategy to begin with, and as

01:17:59.720 they've asked, is the Alberta Sovereignty Act. And that's a new move. And I like where that's

01:18:04.840 going. This is something different. This is something that does move away from the old

01:18:08.700 Alberta agenda or firewall letter, as it's known, and that we still pursue those things. But this

01:18:15.600 is a different legislative tool and a different move to go into detail in ways that the province

01:18:20.320 can distance itself from federal control within confederation. Again, you can look at that as

01:18:26.440 whether that's a step on the way out the door or a way to make sure that the door doesn't have to

01:18:31.000 close. But I want to see the more the better as far as I'm concerned. And I don't think anybody

01:18:37.400 looking towards independence, I mean, I don't think a full out secessionist party is the way to go.

01:18:44.860 Parties are tools, they're different. And they can bring in policies and they can do other things.

01:18:49.280 But the realm of independence and pushing towards that has to be ground level groups. What the

01:18:55.060 parties should be doing, though, is giving us the mechanisms. And that's one of the things,

01:18:59.060 again where Jason Kenney fell short. We should have a realistic binding citizens initiative

01:19:04.760 legislation policy, a mechanism where people, if you petition enough with a certain amount of

01:19:13.100 signatures required over a certain period of time, it's like recall, you can't make it too easy or

01:19:17.960 people be, you know, trying to hold a referendum on where their neighbor's dog craps or something

01:19:22.380 like that. But you got to make it achievable. And you got to say it's binding. And then the

01:19:28.240 government can raise their hands. They don't have to say that we are secessionists or we're looking

01:19:33.460 for put Alberta independent. But if enough Albertans came out and said, we're initiating

01:19:37.100 that referendum, the government said, we're respecting their rights. That's the legislation

01:19:40.100 we gave them. That's what we're going to do. And it's up to Albertans from that point. It gives the

01:19:45.240 government an out to some irresponsibility. A lot of them kind of like that anyways, in a sense,

01:19:49.260 let's avoid getting in trouble with things. So, you know, this legislation, this initiative,

01:19:56.060 I really kind of like where they're going. And again, it doesn't look like Premier Kenney would

01:20:00.660 go for that Alberta Sovereignty Act. I mean, we can't even really get him to move on his

01:20:04.280 fair deal panel recommendations. But the lifespan of Jason Kenney's leadership with the party looks

01:20:12.940 like it might be very limited. And there might be some opportunities to get some commitments from

01:20:16.320 people who might be forming the next government to bring in some of these changes. So I like where

01:20:21.000 they're going with that strategy. Some people have mentioned the Alberta Prosperity Project,

01:20:25.080 same sort of thing. The more we can push, the more we can engage citizens, the more we can move

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01:22:24.280 Yeah, some people had high hopes for Kenny and he never quite got there.

01:22:26.820 I mean, it's, and we've had some other columns, you know, and I had Brett Wilson on earlier this week and he spoke, he's supportive of Jason Kenney.

01:22:36.140 We had Shane Wenzel speaking out and he wrote a column as well, quite supportive of Premier Kenney.

01:22:41.660 It's not over.

01:22:42.640 There's a lot of people want a change

01:22:45.520 in the leadership of the party.

01:22:46.560 There's no doubt about that.

01:22:48.100 We'll see if it happens,

01:22:48.960 but there's some people who want them to stay.

01:22:50.340 It is a race.

01:22:50.960 They got a lot of ground to make up.

01:22:53.240 You know, it's just a little over a month away now

01:22:55.060 before all those votes are going to be tabulated,

01:22:56.920 this mail-in ballot thing.

01:22:58.500 And I hope it's not too much of a mess.

01:23:00.380 As I said, I've dealt with mail-in ballots

01:23:01.800 and they're a pain.

01:23:03.440 They can have a lot of logistical challenges.

01:23:06.220 Getting back to reminding everybody.

01:23:07.620 So as well, we're going to discuss

01:23:08.740 more of those things tonight.

01:23:10.280 We'll be recording it

01:23:12.080 It'll be running tonight with The Pipeline.

01:23:13.560 We do that weekly show.

01:23:15.280 So Dave Naylor and Derek Fildebrand and myself will all go on.

01:23:18.380 We're going to break down some more of those issues and talk about those things.

01:23:21.800 And something else to look forward to.

01:23:23.480 As I said, Daniel Smith's going to be coming on Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays. 0.83

01:23:27.180 She's starting this next Monday here.

01:23:29.480 And so it's going to be a half hour on those three days.

01:23:31.300 And then on Saturday, she's going to do deep dives with a one and a half hour live interview of a guest.

01:23:36.880 And I'm really looking forward to that. 0.96

01:23:39.200 Like I said, some people have had some beefs with Danielle's political activities in the past, 0.61

01:23:44.240 but, you know, she's not afraid of hitting everything head on and addressing things and talk to them.

01:23:47.660 There's your opportunity then.

01:23:48.660 You'll get on those shows, get on the comments.

01:23:50.600 We'll hopefully be polite, but you can ask Danielle about her questions. 0.99

01:23:54.080 I thought she was fantastic in media.

01:23:56.860 I talked about that before. 1.00

01:23:57.820 I mean, I was as furious as anybody with the floor crossing.

01:24:00.220 I was very critical.

01:24:01.880 It took years before we were all kind of talking to each other again.

01:24:05.060 but uh she was just i thought magnificent radio that was the tail end of good talk radio we haven't

01:24:11.560 had good talk radio in alberta now since danielle left it i mean the old days of rutherford and

01:24:17.420 wiseback and and peter warren and some of these great hosts i mean john gormley is still out

01:24:22.100 saskatchewan he's really good but he's probably gonna retire eventually this is the future guys

01:24:27.960 digital platforms this is where we can talk unrestrained this is where we can have discourse

01:24:31.920 this is where we can go back and forth. And Danielle was very good on talk radio, and she's

01:24:36.760 going to be really good on the shows here with the Western Standard. So another reminder there,

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01:24:57.400 yourself some bucks. As I said, this weekend, I mean, I'm going to be on again tomorrow, but this

01:25:02.320 Friday and Saturday, there is a firearms show. It's in Calgary. It's the big one. It's the big

01:25:07.360 annual one. It's being held in the, I think it's the Seven Chiefs Sportplex, it's called. And it's

01:25:12.640 down on the Sutina Reserve there. It's a very big, hundreds of exhibitors and things like that. If

01:25:17.420 you like firearms, you're interested in firearms, that's the place to go. Plus the Western Standard

01:25:21.600 is going to be there. I'll be there all day Friday. And there'll be others there on Saturday.

01:25:25.960 So check us out there.

01:25:28.040 And tomorrow, I've got one guest I know is Dr. Monty Gosch.

01:25:30.980 And we're going to talk to him.

01:25:31.880 He's a specialist in addiction treatment.

01:25:35.160 And I just want some extended discussion.

01:25:37.240 It's always been an issue I've talked about a lot.

01:25:39.180 I've always been concerned about.

01:25:40.400 And as we're seeing, you know, in BC, some of those numbers, they're getting six deaths a day, BC, from overdoses.

01:25:46.920 Six a day.

01:25:47.820 That's how bad it is over there.

01:25:49.440 And Alberta is not far behind it.

01:25:51.300 We've got a really, really big problem.

01:25:52.740 We're all fighting like hornets all the time over how to deal with it, whether it's supervised consumption sites or legalized drug provision or having more treatment or police intervention.

01:26:04.000 I got a feeling it's a little bit of a mix of everything, but Dr. Gosh, that's his specialty.

01:26:08.520 His goal is presumably just to get people off of those drugs and functional society.

01:26:14.160 I'm really looking forward to that discussion with him.

01:26:15.820 It's going to be a good talk, and there'll be a lot of other discussion and ranting going on tomorrow as well.

01:26:20.100 So thank you all for tuning in today, guys.

01:26:23.440 I appreciate it.

01:26:24.420 And I will see you all tomorrow again at 1130 a.m. sharp.

01:26:50.100 We'll be right back.

Western Standard - April 14, 2022

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