00:16:14.920We can talk about that because we do need people to really help out in that backlog of dogs.
00:16:18.740There's a whole lot of them stuck in kennels right now, just looking for someone at least to hang on to them until they find an adoptee.
00:16:24.700There's my self-serving charity plug for the day.
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00:18:36.360on to our first guest i want to talk about accountability a big loaded word on a giant
00:18:41.160issue on something that is just lacking so much and too much all over at every level of government
00:18:47.240let's bring in marcel latou she's been on the show before hey marcel how you doing i'm doing fine
00:18:52.840corey i finally decided to retire from the institute everything has gone by very smoothly
00:19:01.080we've been doing this for some 20 years now but it's time for me to retire however i think
00:19:08.920there are a number of people nowadays who can take uh the mantle i mean there's uh franco uh
00:19:16.440for the from the ctf and peter mccaffery from common sense and macbeth william mcbeth from
00:19:25.560north uh you know and so on and so forth there are some very good young people to take my place
00:19:31.960however i'm still going to contribute to people like you the western standard either by writing
00:19:37.080columns or if you decide to invite me i'll be happy to be uh contributing uh as a private citizen
00:19:46.440Right on. Well, I appreciate that. I mean, once we've got it in the system, you know, we can retire from the formal groups and organizations we're with, but it's still in our blood. We're still going to watch the politics happening and still going to have our views that we want to share. So I appreciate getting you on to continue talking about it.
00:20:02.180Ori, you're one of those who are going to take the mantle to move this country forward.
00:20:07.380And I am very, very happy to have connected with you over the years, and we've done some
00:20:13.660great work together, and I hope this continues from your side.
00:20:17.740Let me say, you know, government accountability is still my belly wick.
00:20:21.580I still will talk about it, I still have thoughts about it, especially in those times where
00:20:27.680every level of government is having a problem today. My view is that we have too many politicians
00:20:38.960who tell you about their principles before the election. As soon as they get elected,
00:20:48.080all those principles they embrace disappear because what they want to do nowadays
00:20:56.640is to look at the next election and how they are going to get re-elected.
00:21:02.240I mean, I'm not going to be talking about individuals, but every single level has shown
00:21:10.240that we have a problem. Calgary's municipality, it has already started.
00:21:15.920Gondek doesn't like somebody on council, so let's shut his mic off.
00:21:21.520At the provincial level in Alberta, we have many problems. Not all of Kenny's doing. There are
00:21:31.280certain things that have happened in the economy and in the geopolitical arena that have affected
00:21:38.560his government. However, he is in charge and the buck stops with him. At the federal level,
00:21:47.360accountability has disappeared completely. Now that we have the coalition between the NDP
00:21:53.120and the liberal, we have a one socialist government. Accountability has disappeared
00:22:01.760in this country at every single level. And the younger people should be very, very worried about
00:22:09.040this. Because unlike the United States where they have a balance of power every two years,
00:22:19.760where they can have a midterm where things can shift, in Canada we don't have this system.
00:22:27.200We have somebody who's been elected in Ottawa now for years and it just continues. We can no longer
00:22:35.280accept accountability from the government if there is no transparency. I mean too often
00:22:43.680we have fractured political parties at every level right now. We see a number of people
00:22:52.400entering the fray for leadership or for candidacy who have no idea but one thing. In my point of
00:23:00.880you they have only one thing in mind is their selfish position in the years to come once they
00:23:08.720get elected and this is very very dangerous for a nation which is struggling to find its its
00:23:19.040position on the global arena today because with trudeau canada is no longer respected
00:23:27.440like it used to be, as a honest broker. How can we be a honest broker when cozy up with China?
00:23:36.820I mean, we can't do this. The economy of this country is going to the dogs because of the0.97
00:23:45.060inability for this government to see that we cannot continue to spend at the level that it
00:23:53.260has been doing for the past six years and we have no way to get out of it well and that gets back to
00:24:01.100like the whole thing and on every level is the accountability between elections and you know one
00:24:05.500of the areas that this part of why i wanted to bring you on was something that got revealed
00:24:09.180recently in a story as at the highest level i mean we'd still think that politicians would be
00:24:14.300held accountable should they breach the law and we found out that rcmp had considered investigating
00:24:21.180and laying charges on Prime Minister Justin Trudeau
00:24:39.580That's a police force, a national police force,
00:24:42.220saying that we will not charge people of a certain caliber
00:24:45.780and level in society, whereas we would charge others.
00:24:49.480I mean, if we don't even have the criminal justice form of accountability in this country, what have we got?
00:24:54.460And this is where the problem is, because a lot of the situation we have at the federal government is because our judicial system has disappeared in its true role of holding politicians accountable.
00:32:10.820To me, a democracy means that the public will be able to choose.
00:32:15.800The electorate will choose how they respond to the politician, but the politician who comes in must ensure that they give their true value and their true personality to the electorate to allow them to judge and inform themselves before they vote.
00:32:37.860The mass media is going to be the key to giving this information.
00:32:45.160Unfortunately, in Canada, we have so much sponsored government subsidies to the media
00:32:52.940that they've become so biased that we need people like you and independent media
00:32:58.820to be the informer of news and information to the general public.
00:33:05.660so getting back to accountability i guess in legislative measures we could do uh recall is
00:33:13.000something i mean is that a tool that's feasible i mean unfortunately once somebody gets in it's
00:33:17.640sort of the problem is people campaign conservative and then they govern left when they get in we see
00:33:21.820that a lot municipally and then with others but there's not much we can do and there's not an
00:33:26.220interest on the part of an elected official to give us good recall policy as we saw with premier
00:33:31.340kenny he put out a recall policy finally but it's not really one that's viable or usable
00:33:38.140i have never been a proponent of recall okay because recall to me is a waste of money
00:33:44.940you know so this is why i always say limited term because you know the fact is a recall you need to
00:33:52.540get a number of signatures and so on and so forth who are going to sign it are the same people who
00:33:58.620voted for the other candidate and so therefore what what are you doing is you're getting a new
00:34:04.220election for nothing i mean recall to me is a misnomer it has been bandied as a panacea for
00:34:13.420our problem i prefer limited term a two term limit of four years for every single position in politics
00:34:23.500to me is far more than enough then what you do is you sit out one term after your two terms
00:34:31.500you are allowed to sit out one term and then what happens is you can come back again and be re-elected
00:34:39.420if you you so wish oh it was a mistake and we want him back but sit down for one term
00:34:49.180and see what happens well a two-term limit is the best thing for accountability yeah and it does um
00:34:57.440i guess bring it about i mean that the person has to go in with an idea of some sort of ideology
00:35:03.600of changes they want to make things they want to do rather than always worrying about re-election
00:35:07.860i mean if you know that eight years is your maximum you've already won your your four-year
00:35:12.800re-election you're going to be theoretically hopefully sticking on principles and making
00:35:17.400political change rather than just worrying about keeping your seat longer absolutely because after
00:35:23.960in our system right now at all levels it becomes pensionable time they get those huge pensions
00:35:31.080they get rewarded for doing nothing for for agreeing with everybody for compromising there's
00:35:37.480the problem here in in the system that we have nowadays even principal politicians compromise
00:35:46.200to get re-elected because they're looking at a huge pension down the road after 10 12 12 15 years
00:35:56.520which is no problem there you have eight years you go your pensions because i i think they
00:36:02.040deserve a pension don't get me wrong i mean after eight years so it'd be smaller you go away when
00:36:09.400you come back, you get another start again after the term that you sat away from politics. If you
00:36:17.080get re-elected, you start again. So your pension will be eight years and eight years if you get
00:36:22.840back in. But not these long-term pensions of staying in there and actually of saying, hey,
00:36:32.600I'm just going to be in there. I promised the electorate to do certain things, but now I
00:36:38.120compromise with my colleagues what we do is we have to have bipartisanship in in in certain
00:36:45.800issues there is no such thing about bipartisanship bipartisanship is the killer of accountability
00:36:55.560yeah well and that's been a an issue i guess i mean it's it's it gets bigger we're going to run
00:37:00.120out of time before we can get into it but i'm sure we'll get a chance to talk again on it that
00:37:03.560whipped votes, you know, representative, I mean, having local representation versus just party
00:37:08.600representation is another area of dispute. I mean, a principal person, you know, wouldn't be voting
00:37:14.700the same necessarily in a rural constituency as a person in an urban constituency because their
00:37:18.960constituents might have different needs. But with whipped votes. Absolutely. Absolutely. And you're
00:37:25.040absolutely right. I mean, that's what's going to happen. I mean, if you have limited terms,
00:37:29.700people are going to be deciding every eight years as a maximum on the role that the representative
00:37:38.060has done for them. Now, if the representative is good enough, he will mentor somebody to take
00:37:45.180his place with the same principles, with the same ideas. But don't tell me that there is nobody to
00:37:51.340take their places. That's untrue. Because every time you have an election, you've got hundreds
00:37:57.840of people putting their name the last municipal election we had so many people who wanted to be
00:38:02.620mayor i mean it was a dog's breakfast yeah no there's there's no shortage of applicants for
00:38:09.060the job i guess the goal is just to try and get the best ones we can and i mean as you said a
00:38:13.240pension is reasonable it just has to be a reasonable level and they should be paid fairly well i mean
00:38:17.340we got to get people from uh you know the business community and the trades and others that are you
00:38:22.280know you're not going to draw them in if we're paying them in a minimum wage uh but we don't
00:38:26.220to overpay as well that's always a balance we have to seek well absolutely absolutely you can't tell
00:38:30.780people to do things for for nothing uh as long as it is a fair wage and uh they they they are
00:38:37.980respected and they they deliver the the services and uh uh how they they treat their their their
00:38:45.100citizens i mean it's a fair wage i have no problem with that at all great well thank you for coming
00:38:51.900in to check in today as i said it's a big subject we only talked about a bit of it i hope we know we
00:38:55.900We can talk again some more down the road as you're,
00:38:58.460I know it's going to be harder to corner you
00:39:00.220because the outdoor tennis and pickle of all seasons are approaching,
00:39:03.320but I'm sure we can manage to pull you on some more in the future.
00:39:23.160But I was really glad to see Mark Milkey come back and talk about the same subject. And this is something that you should be watching very carefully, because the social justice system is going to once again be a catalyst to overthrow accountability in government. And you should pursue that. And maybe we'll come back and talk about this down the road later.
00:39:47.000Absolutely. Social justice, that's a whole ball of wax on its own and a whole new interview. We'll have to do that. All right. Well, thank you for joining me today, Marcel. It's good to see you. And I will send an email. We'll talk a bit after the show.
01:01:07.280I know hay has gone through the roof lately, and that has an impact that some people don't necessarily realize as well until they see the price of the store for a steak.
01:01:15.220Yeah, I know some positive out of this.
01:16:04.940And he's basically saying, you know, when we got these guys coming and going and coming and going 17 times, it's pretty expensive for the taxpayer putting people at risk.
01:16:12.340Maybe if they're breaking into your house, you just blow their brains out.
01:16:14.460Now, I'm not recommending that advice here in Alberta,
01:16:17.000but I'm saying it's a change of attitude
01:16:18.240that probably is welcome on a number of levels.