Western Standard - Triggered： Tamara Lich free again. For now.

00:00:00.000 We'll be right back.

00:00:30.000 Good morning. It's Wednesday, July 27th, 2022. And welcome to Triggered. I'm Corey Morgan.

00:00:41.060 This is the Western Standards daily news interview event meme, you name it, show. Most of all,

00:00:48.360 it's an opinion show. Some people get a little confused on that sometimes. And I share my

00:00:53.560 opinion on here. You don't always have to agree with it. In fact, a lot of people don't all the

00:00:57.300 time. But if you got a problem with it, hey, get over yourself. We're here for my opinion. Share

00:01:02.120 your opinions here as well, though. We've got the comments. Scroll on the go, guys. Send me what

00:01:06.880 you think. Good, bad, indifferent. Talk to each other about things. Check in from where you're

00:01:11.780 at all over. It's good to see you guys coming in from all across the country and across the

00:01:15.980 province. Just try to keep things a little civil. You know, we had some issues with people commenting

00:01:20.880 on one of our stories on the website itself, getting way out of bounds. And unfortunately,

00:01:26.120 we just had to shut off the comments and that's no good we want to have that exchange but

00:01:30.220 unfortunately some nut bars and really nasty people can ruin those things now and then

00:01:33.640 all right let's see what else we got going on today so we got a couple of daily observances

00:01:37.620 to cover before i get into what i'm going to be talking about you know i like talking about these

00:01:41.960 as we get people checking in and tuning into the show melissa out in oshawa russell out in

00:01:48.580 saskatchewan it's it's uh good to see y'all coming in so it is barbie in a blender day

00:01:54.880 Yes, if you've got a Barbie laying around, you've got a blender laying around.

00:01:58.740 This is the day to put it in a blender.

00:02:01.180 I don't know where they come up with these things.

00:02:03.520 But if you want to traumatize a young child or you just have a beef with Barbie or whatever,

00:02:08.940 I don't know.

00:02:09.380 This is the day to put it in the blender, though. 1.00

00:02:11.160 Grind her up and put her behind you. 0.98

00:02:13.900 I guess if you want to go the other way, you could put a Ken doll in the blender as well 1.00

00:02:17.400 and just make sure that he isn't pregnant. 1.00

00:02:20.440 So get your Barbie in its blender. 0.92

00:02:22.560 It's also, this is one I can relate to, but I can't celebrate, and it's National Scotch Day.

00:02:28.100 Oh, I so miss scotch.

00:02:30.460 It's the smell of it, that first taste of it when you've had just a drop of water and a good single malt.

00:02:35.960 Unfortunately, I abused my privileges.

00:02:38.480 No longer can consume it, but it's not like I didn't get my share in while I could anyways.

00:02:44.460 But for those who are responsible, get out there.

00:02:47.400 Enjoy a good glass of scotch.

00:02:49.320 There's some fantastic ones out there.

00:02:51.940 Just try not to go into a battle to see the bottom of the bottle with it, or it can turn

00:02:56.140 a little detrimental for you. All right, let's see here. We've got a couple of great guests today.

00:03:02.040 Author of Unmasked, his name is Ian Miller. He does a lot of writing for the Brownstone Institute.

00:03:08.260 And yeah, his book was Unmasked, The Global Failure of COVID Mask Mandates. So yeah,

00:03:12.860 you can see where we're going to go with these discussions. Because the push is coming on in

00:03:16.260 the state's end here to bring back the mask mandates. They're all warning us, the mainstream

00:03:20.220 media saying, be afraid, be afraid, be afraid. We're coming into the umpteenth wave this fall.

00:03:25.540 So let's talk to him about how well those mandates have been working around the world.

00:03:28.800 And Dr. Tammy Nemeth, she's a historian, host of the Nemeth Report, and again, has a very strong

00:03:35.520 focus on energy issues. We're going to talk about some of those, I call it, flagellation on the part

00:03:41.760 of the industry and international pressures pushing the industries to basically shut themselves

00:03:46.740 down, appeasement, and it's not doing anybody any favors. Meanwhile, Putin is expanding Russian oil

00:03:53.240 export capacity. All right, let's start with a good news story with a rant. So, I mean, I'm going

00:03:59.600 to give some background. I've been something of a dedicated news watcher since I learned how to

00:04:03.340 turn on a TV as a child and since learning how to read. I devoured newspapers at every chance. I was

00:04:09.460 something of a dork that way, and I still am now. Never in all my reading have I seen such an 0.80

00:04:15.640 obsessive persecution and attempted prosecution of a Canadian citizen, as I have with Tamara

00:04:20.340 Leach. It's descended into polarized madness. I mean, we've got a frothing social media mob

00:04:25.580 comprising of everybody from average citizens to established media members, and they're waving

00:04:29.620 figurative pitchforks and demanding that a non-violent dominion of grandmother remain

00:04:34.260 locked up for months awaiting trial on mischief charges. Are they so lost in their frenzy that

00:04:40.740 they can't stop a moment and look at themselves, listen to themselves? Do they really want to live

00:04:45.100 a society where activists protesting the state can be jailed indefinitely over an offense so

00:04:49.260 petty as having taken a selfie next to the wrong person? It's repugnant to behold. It really is. 0.78

00:04:54.240 And I hope some of these folks can really take a breather and bear in mind that precedents are

00:04:58.240 being set and some of their beloved left-wing activists might face similar treatment in the

00:05:02.260 future once the government changes. And I would oppose the treatment of them too, by the way. I

00:05:06.740 support the freedom to protest for left and right. Protesters have crossed the line and found

00:05:11.880 themselves facing criminal charges since the beginning of Confederation. Never, though, has a

00:05:15.740 peaceful protester faced such a malicious prosecution as Tamara Leach has. I mean, in searching, it's not

00:05:20.740 hard to find examples of protesters who have long criminal histories and been charged with assaulting

00:05:24.640 police and all sorts of things, and they're immediately released on bail. We can find cases

00:05:28.960 almost daily of sex offenders and other criminals with long violent histories, too, and they're

00:05:32.060 released on bail with fewer conditions than Leach. There's no doubt that this ongoing hysteric effort

00:05:37.080 to jail, Leach is politically motivated. The Crown prosecutor donated $17,000 to Trudeau's liberals.

00:05:42.780 He's more than just a casual supporter of the party. He also knows that if he can make a petty

00:05:48.040 prime minister like Trudeau smile, he can find himself with a judicial appointment. Let's not

00:05:52.100 pretend he isn't motivated by this, as he's been chastened in the courtroom repeatedly for his

00:05:57.340 zealous actions. The Justice of the Peace who refused to release Leach a couple weeks ago

00:06:03.200 could very well have been seeking promotion as well.

00:06:05.560 I mean, he's just a bureaucrat, and he wasn't even a lawyer.

00:06:08.340 You've got to climb that ladder somehow.

00:06:09.860 When Leach's case has gone before real judges, though they've ruled, she's to be released.

00:06:14.700 They understand the law, even if so many Craven Trudeau fartcatchers can't.

00:06:19.740 Justice Goodman politely explained to an outraged Crown prosecutor yesterday how the law works

00:06:24.540 as he ruled that Leach was to be released.

00:06:27.440 Goodman noted that two justices of the piece aligned themselves with the prosecutor,

00:06:31.640 but two superior court justices didn't.

00:06:34.420 It was sort of a polite way of saying the JPs were out of their depth.

00:06:37.580 Goodman also pointed out the Crown needed to prove mens rea in the case.

00:06:41.680 That essentially means proving Leish knowingly and purposely breached a bail condition.

00:06:45.760 Taking a quick selfie didn't really meet that far.

00:06:49.400 Justice Goodman corrected the record on something that many Trudeau apologists keep claiming.

00:06:52.680 He pointed out that she's not charged with sedition or inciting a riot.

00:06:56.200 He said while the protests were of national import, the charges relate to minor offenses in the criminal code.

00:07:00.160 And he finds it highly unlikely that a woman with no criminal record is going to spend any more time in jail. 0.96

00:07:05.140 This is important. She's been charged with mischief. 0.72

00:07:07.820 Not sedition. Not starting riots.

00:07:11.320 He's also noting if she was convicted on the charges she has,

00:07:13.700 she's already served enough days to cover any sentence in the future in reality.

00:07:17.620 This part of the ruling is critical.

00:07:20.160 He says, I take judicial notice of the harm caused by the Frito convoy to the citizens of Ottawa and governments.

00:07:24.820 But no court should seek to control the possession of political views.

00:07:28.420 In a roundabout weighing, he's implying the persecution of Leach to date has been politically motivated.

00:07:32.940 Now, he won't say it, but I will. 1.00

00:07:34.460 Tamara Leach has been a political prisoner. 1.00

00:07:36.760 The judge ordered the shackles to be removed from the grandmother and that she be released.

00:07:41.660 She hasn't been found not guilty by the courts,

00:07:44.140 but she still presents no risk to society in being free while she awaits trial.

00:07:50.240 Only the most fanatical of people would think she presents any real risk to the public.

00:07:54.180 Leach's travails are far from over, but another of the absurd assaults on her freedom has been

00:07:58.120 lifted, at least for the time being. We're witnessing political persecution and travesty

00:08:02.100 of justice in real time in a nation that used to pride itself on freedoms. History is not

00:08:06.840 going to look kindly upon this year's events in Canada with Tamara Leach.

00:08:11.660 All right, that's what's got me going today. Like I said, welcome to Freedom, Tamara. Glad

00:08:16.660 to see you're out. Hopefully there's no little petty thing that gives them an excuse to lock

00:08:20.740 you up again before trial time. Let's check in with our news editor, Dave Naylor, and see what

00:08:24.480 else is happening out there. Holy cow, Corey. Look at you speaking Latin and all. Yes, yes. Two words

00:08:31.380 in a row, but I had to look up the translation. Well, you're old enough. You probably studied it

00:08:36.140 at school, right? I think they put me through a little bit of it at Seanigan Lake, but it's hard

00:08:40.240 for it to kind of stay in the memory. Has your email inbox slowed down with all the hate venom

00:08:48.300 moon that you were getting yesterday? It slowed down, yeah, but the crazy internet squirrels had

00:08:53.060 a lot of love to share with me because I dared give a critical commentary on one of the UCP

00:08:58.860 leadership candidates. You know, sometimes I don't like our listeners. No, sometimes they can be very

00:09:07.700 cruel and hurtful. I too have felt their vitriol. So, you know, I feel for you, Corey. Hopefully

00:09:16.140 it'll it'll stop soon but we got a really busy day going we got a really busy day going on uh

00:09:22.220 i'll start first with the breaking news that is uh that is not up on the website yet uh rcmp in

00:09:28.060 surrey have announced an arrest in the murder of excuse me if i mispronounce it uh rip you don

00:09:34.540 donaman malik he was gunned down in surrey a couple weeks ago you'll remember he was

00:09:39.740 acquitted of helping bomb the air india flight killed more than 300 people back in the day

00:09:46.060 a 23 year old and a 21 year old have just been arrested and the rcmp will give out

00:09:51.180 more details this afternoon we've also got a breaking story on leslin lewis the cpc

00:09:57.340 leadership candidate she's again questioning why this this third official debate from the party is

00:10:03.740 going ahead basically saying she's got better things to do and also not up on the website but

00:10:10.060 But coming within moments, Hockey Canada admits they have used their sort of savings fund to pay off nine separate sex accusers of various Hockey Canada teams.

00:10:23.100 More than $8 million, I believe the figure was.

00:10:26.220 So Hockey Canada scandal continues to grow.

00:10:29.540 All of that will be coming up on the website soon.

00:10:32.180 Already there we have a bit of breaking news on the UCP campaign trail where the Lethbridge East MLA Nathan Newdorf has come out along with I believe it's Peace River MLA Pat Wren and they have thrown their support behind Daniel Smith in her bid to become Alberta Premier.

00:10:52.760 We've got a David Creighton column on the aforementioned Tamera Leach and the ridiculous ordeal that she went through.

00:11:03.100 And we've got a story on everybody's favorite professor, Jordan Peterson, saying that, sorry guys, but the worst is yet to come under Trudeau.

00:11:12.840 And we all know how popular Jordan Peterson is, so I'm sure that'll be highly read.

00:11:17.600 We've got a major study of North American cities and how they're rebounding after COVID.

00:11:24.180 And because of the strict lockdown rules that were enforced in places like Vancouver, Calgary, and Toronto,

00:11:32.100 those places are performing some of the worst in North America.

00:11:36.480 They're right at the bottom of the table for economic recovery,

00:11:39.400 and the strict COVID lockdown requirements are being blamed for that.

00:11:44.620 And we've got a David Parker column on the state of the aforementioned UCP leadership race.

00:11:52.480 And a good story from our friends at the CTF.

00:11:56.060 You know, if you want to get rid of a weapon, have it destroyed,

00:11:59.060 all you have to do is take it to your local police station,

00:12:02.080 and they'll handle that for you for free.

00:12:04.120 But with the Freedom of Information request papers,

00:12:07.240 they've discovered the Canadian government,

00:12:09.300 the Liberals paid more than $1,000 to destroy one shotgun.

00:12:13.420 So if you want to see what a boondoggle that all those new gun laws are going to be, this is just sort of the first example of it.

00:12:21.880 And we've got the Ethics Committee in Ottawa voting to hold an investigation to see whether they're being spied upon by the RCMP.

00:12:30.140 And we've got yet another story on how police forces were able to get a blacklist of people who had supported the Freedom Convoy as it rolled into Ottawa.

00:12:39.600 the police had all the names of their supporters on hand given given to them by a by a federal bank

00:12:45.780 so really a lot of good stuff on there uh cory already and i've mentioned those new the new

00:12:50.620 breaking ones to come they'll all be up within moments so lots to read today right on well

00:12:56.040 looking forward to it and uh appreciate the update i'll let you get back at it we'll see uh who else

00:13:01.940 comes out in this crazy ucp race as they go around i mean it's a little different when one changes

00:13:05.580 endorsements. You know, it's one thing to come out with a new one, but sort of crossing the

00:13:09.620 endorsement floor, showing that there's some shifting views out there. Sure, there is. And

00:13:14.520 I'll remind everybody, the first official UCP debate takes place tonight. It's in Medicine Hat

00:13:20.180 starting at five o'clock. The Western Standard will be providing a live stream of it. So just

00:13:25.340 click back here at five o'clock and you'll be able to watch it. And our Arthur Green in Edmonton

00:13:30.700 we'll be uh doing a doing a story on it excellent well lots to cover i appreciate it dave and i'll

00:13:37.880 talk to you after the show i'll discuss those tear stains on my pillow from some more of the

00:13:41.360 emails i get from the upsets i'm sure it'll be very very nasty people all right dave thanks

00:13:46.760 that is our news editor dave naylor giving the updates as i said lots coming out lots

00:13:52.460 breaking in the news we're getting it up there as fast as it happens this one i remind everybody

00:13:57.140 the reason we can do this, the reason we have people across this country reporting, coming up

00:14:02.780 with original content, columnists giving you original opinions is because you guys have been

00:14:06.820 subscribing in droves, in the thousands. This is how we beat the legacy media, guys. This is how

00:14:12.100 we don't have to consume that stuff anymore is through subscribing for independent media like

00:14:17.420 us who refuse to take any tax dollars. So you guys who have subscribed already, thank you very much.

00:14:22.940 And hey, if you haven't subscribed yet, come on, get on there, guys.

00:14:25.780 10 bucks a month, 99 bucks for a year.

00:14:27.480 If you're going to take it out for a year, it's a good deal.

00:14:29.680 It's cheaper than a newspaper subscription used to be when you used to get it delivered

00:14:33.000 to your house.

00:14:33.640 And you get dozens and dozens of daily stories out there keeping you up to date on what's

00:14:40.060 going on.

00:14:41.260 So again, thanks to those who have subscribed and get on there and subscribe if you haven't

00:14:46.060 yet.

00:14:46.960 So yeah, you know, it's something we keep referencing.

00:14:49.020 So I mean, it's funny.

00:14:50.900 And this happens during leadership campaigns.

00:14:52.620 People get emotional, they get very attached to their candidates, and they don't like hearing

00:14:57.280 any critique, whether constructive or not. And they can get pretty wound up. So yesterday I

00:15:02.720 opened up and I talked about that issue with Daniel Smith and what she said. And you know,

00:15:06.500 the funny thing was most of the people going haywire did it over the title of my monologue.

00:15:12.120 They obviously didn't actually watch it because I wasn't going after Smith in the monologue.

00:15:18.880 I mean, I did say I felt she made a mistake with how she phrased things.

00:15:22.520 I talked about how as a former talk radio host, she's got to change her approach, perhaps strategically, if she wants to avoid stepping into the mire further.

00:15:32.780 And, you know, the news cycle for the last couple of days has been dominated by her statement. 0.54

00:15:37.940 It's not doing her campaign favors.

00:15:40.180 And it's not doing a campaign a favor to not point out that there was a mistake made.

00:15:45.340 Because there will be more mistakes made then.

00:15:47.940 You don't want to lose the narrative.

00:15:49.260 I mean, she's really been controlling it well.

00:15:51.400 But the people went wild.

00:15:53.600 You're shooting at Smith.

00:15:54.420 And oh, yeah, the Western Standard sold out to the mainstream media. 1.00

00:15:57.320 Oh, get over yourselves, you clowns. 0.98

00:15:59.540 Don't forget, I see some commenters too. 0.99

00:16:01.940 What kind of unbiased media is this?

00:16:03.400 It isn't.

00:16:04.620 I mean, our newsroom is unbiased.

00:16:07.000 I'm an opinion guy.

00:16:08.380 Opinion.

00:16:08.880 Look up the word.

00:16:09.660 Look up the definition.

00:16:11.220 My show would be really boring if I just read news script.

00:16:14.820 Then it's a news show like the TV news you turn on at night.

00:16:17.460 This is an opinion show, guys, and you're going to get my opinion.

00:16:19.660 It might not always be right.

00:16:20.920 Don't worry.

00:16:21.360 I know you'll call me out on that.

00:16:22.800 Either way, just giving you the heads up.

00:16:24.840 I'm still going to be speaking to, critically, and perhaps supportively of candidates as

00:16:30.680 this campaign unfolds, and one or another, people isn't going to like it when it happens.

00:16:35.500 But it's just the way it goes, guys.

00:16:38.640 Speaking of self-destruction, though, in a sense, and this is something that's come up.

00:16:44.120 It's interesting.

00:16:44.960 I just ate there last weekend.

00:16:47.460 Valbella, it's a deli in Canmore.

00:16:49.380 Some people might have seen the news.

00:16:50.280 It's made national news now.

00:16:52.700 And Valbella is a fantastic food. 1.00

00:16:54.720 I mean, they do the turduckens there. 1.00

00:16:56.220 It's a deli.

00:16:56.780 They've been there since the late 70s,

00:16:58.520 a long established older business in Canmore.

00:17:02.340 And it's right across from a gemstone cutting shop

00:17:07.560 where I do a lot of work for my father.

00:17:09.320 So, I mean, I've gone to Valbella to eat a lot over the years

00:17:11.600 and it's a very busy spot.

00:17:13.120 They've established themselves there.

00:17:14.960 their products are served or were served all over the place, you know, from the Fairmount Hot Springs

00:17:20.560 to Sunterra and lots of restaurants and, of course, lots of individuals. So I guess they

00:17:26.500 were fundraising for the local Pride Parade and going around asking for sponsorships.

00:17:34.480 Sorry, I look at the comments. Asking for sponsorships for the Gay Pride Parade, fine.

00:17:38.520 and the owner of it sent back this email basically talking about trans groomers and calling them

00:17:45.400 mentally you know mental health issues like whoa and of course the recipient of that email shared

00:17:53.060 it and it went viral and now they've said that he's been fired he's got the last name of the

00:17:57.900 owner i've looked at the pictures he's a younger fellow i'm thinking i'm just guessing he's the son

00:18:01.880 of the original owner the fellow who started in the 70s but it's uh you know and perhaps it's

00:18:07.240 been split between him and his sister or something. I don't know. But my God, how fast all of the

00:18:12.900 supporters and businesses that were buying from these guys have already been publicly saying we're

00:18:16.600 never buying from them again. I've just, think harder, guys. You're not interested, just say,

00:18:21.800 no, I'm not interested. But to go on a tirade like that, this guy looks like might have completely

00:18:25.660 destroyed a business that was 45 years in the making. I don't know if they're going to be

00:18:29.720 recovered from this. If you've been there, it's a nice, it's been recently renovated space. It's

00:18:33.880 kind of in the industrial area and in the north end of Canmore, very expensive to lease property

00:18:38.280 out that way. And I bet you their sales are going to cut at least in half over one ridiculous, 0.66

00:18:44.980 intolerant email sent from a business owner. It's just noteworthy. And it's sad. Like I said, 0.98

00:18:50.020 you can be upset. You don't have to agree with the pride march or things like that. But boy,

00:18:58.040 from a business perspective, then keep it to yourself. Just say, thanks, I'm not interested.

00:19:02.360 And I know they put pressure on with a lot of these.

00:19:04.200 You know, I was saying to Jane the other day,

00:19:05.960 it reminds me of everybody who's watched

00:19:07.060 that old Seinfeld episode with Kramer, you know,

00:19:08.860 and it was the march, you know,

00:19:10.240 I think it was an AIDS march, this was back in the 90s.

00:19:12.440 He didn't want to wear the ribbon.

00:19:13.740 He says, I support you guys and everything.

00:19:14.800 I want to march with you.

00:19:15.360 I just don't want to wear the ribbon.

00:19:16.240 And of course, the crowd and the mob

00:19:17.680 starts chasing him eventually

00:19:18.820 because he just doesn't want to wear the ribbon.

00:19:21.080 And they get a little pressuring with these businesses too.

00:19:23.180 So you've got to sponsor the Pride March.

00:19:25.180 You've got to sponsor.

00:19:25.720 If you don't sponsor, you don't support us.

00:19:26.960 Well, it doesn't mean you don't support us.

00:19:28.140 maybe you don't want to sponsor. So you can see why they get under the nerves sometimes if you get

00:19:31.220 too pushy a salesperson. But don't respond like that. Either way, it'll be interesting to see if

00:19:36.480 they can recover from this or not. It's just a terrible action on the part of a business against

00:19:41.920 themselves. As Sylvia is saying, yes, Corey, it's an opinion broadcast, so you shouldn't call out

00:19:46.140 your commenters for their opinion when it differs to yours. Of course I will, Sylvia. Yes, this is

00:19:50.240 my show. When I differ from you, I'll debate you and I will call you out on it. That's what it's

00:19:54.200 about. It's the interactivity. I mean, I don't expect everybody to always agree with me. But

00:19:58.660 when they disagree, we will get at it. That's the way it goes. That's part of what's the fun. That's

00:20:02.700 part of why we're live. Because, you know, when you do recorded shows, those are good. And you

00:20:07.940 can sanitize things and watch for it. But it's not nearly as fluid or interesting as when we do

00:20:12.160 these live interactions and things such as that. So, hey, get on there. You don't have to agree

00:20:17.420 with me. But yeah, when you get on my case in the comments, I'll come right back at you. That's

00:20:23.660 half the fun. Okay, let's get to our guest, though, so you guys don't have to listen to me

00:20:27.400 babbling interminably, and that's Ian Miller. He's an author of Unmasked, the Global Failure of

00:20:33.960 COVID Mask Mandates, and he's been writing some great stuff in Brownstone Institute, and I've

00:20:38.160 been looking forward to having him on. Hello, Ian. Thank you very much for joining us today.

00:20:42.000 Oh, thanks so much for having me. I appreciate it.

00:20:44.320 So you're down in the States, but I mean, there's a whole lot of parallels between our countries.

00:20:48.640 we're seeing the same moves the same sort of motivations uh the fear mongering is being put

00:20:53.680 on it seems particularly with schools saying we've got to mask our children we've got to mask them up

00:20:59.040 and disaster is going to come but we can't pretend that we don't know uh how effective masks are

00:21:05.520 anymore can we right well and schools especially are really bad because there's been a lot of

00:21:11.520 research done showing that there's no impact to masking in schools uh one study that was just

00:21:16.240 released that was really well done was about two compared to school districts in north dakota that

00:21:20.400 were right next to each other they had very similar demographics some more vaccination rates

00:21:24.800 basically as identical as you can get without it being a randomized controlled trial

00:21:28.480 and there was absolutely no difference in cumulative case rates during the omicron surge between

00:21:34.080 the district that had a mask mandate and that the one that didn't so you know we made these

00:21:38.000 comparisons over and over again i've done this myself repeatedly showed that school districts

00:21:41.840 states or locations that have mask mandates to those that don't. And there's just no benefit to

00:21:46.900 it. So it's a very consistent pattern. And yet these politicians just keep coming back to it

00:21:50.840 because I guess they just don't have any other ideas of what to do or what to say.

00:21:55.100 Well, and that's what the kind of the question is, you know, what is the motivation here? I mean,

00:21:59.500 what's the benefit of going forward and imposing masking on kids? I mean, here we're seeing it's a

00:22:04.480 lot of union push. We have a local federation of labor who's actually got a legal challenge trying

00:22:09.320 of force masking in our schools. I mean, there's no medical basis for it, but they still are

00:22:13.300 obsessive with this. Like, I just don't get why they're so hung up on it. I mean, if there really

00:22:18.440 was some measurable benefit, even a small benefit, I can understand, but they can't pretend there is

00:22:22.740 anymore. Right. I don't really, you know, look, we'll probably never get a perfectly straight

00:22:28.220 answer from these people about what their motivations are. I think it's fear from

00:22:32.300 themselves, among themselves. I think it was also this desire to be seen as being one of the smart,

00:22:38.500 you know, enlightened, intelligent people that follows the science and follows the experts.

00:22:42.720 And, you know, there's some kind of internal credibility, I think, that comes with that

00:22:47.060 from some people where they kind of get some sense of self-worth from saying, I follow science,

00:22:52.640 and that makes me a smart person. Whereas those, you know, those anti-maskers, they don't listen

00:22:57.560 to the experts. You know, I think some of them also just do believe that it works, despite all

00:23:02.360 the evidence. They get their news exclusively from a couple places that all have maintained

00:23:07.080 this kind of fiction that masks have worked and mask mandates have worked um and so they don't

00:23:11.400 they haven't really ever had to engage with the uh with the evidence and the data suggesting the

00:23:15.560 exact opposite and i'm guessing that um with some of it i mean probably with a mask too is it's a

00:23:22.760 visible form of at least looking like you're doing something right it's a it's a virtue signaling

00:23:27.480 it's wearing the wristband at least when a uh a legislator of some sort or somebody else can

00:23:32.680 impose this he can say look look how much this is benefiting people just because at least people

00:23:36.440 could see a visible sign of their policy in action not necessarily the results exactly it's a very

00:23:42.600 visible intervention i think politicians especially grabbed onto it as well because it was seen as

00:23:47.080 something that was low cost whereas you know closing businesses and closing schools would be

00:23:51.000 a high cost intervention but telling people to wear masks in their mind doesn't have a lot of

00:23:55.160 harms so they figured well why not you know we might as well look like we're doing something and

00:23:59.720 it won't be uh be that destructive to our economic future but i don't think that that's accurate i

00:24:05.400 think there are immense harms to it uh both kind of soft social harms as well as physical harms to

00:24:11.080 some in some instances and um you know it's also just not how we should be making decisions you

00:24:15.820 should be making decisions based off of evidence and data and science which is what they claim to

00:24:19.360 be doing uh instead of just these these feelings of oh well it's a visible reminder that we're in

00:24:24.020 a pandemic and it shows you if i wear a mask i care about you and that makes me a good person

00:24:27.960 so that's not how we we should be making decisions as a society and it clearly it hasn't worked

00:24:33.180 anyway. No, and I mean, as you said, in a sense of soft social harms, I would even pretend that

00:24:38.300 those harms aren't necessarily that soft. I mean, people often say it's harmless. Well, no, actually

00:24:42.780 there are measurable harms, particularly with kids. I mean, we're expressive creatures. You know,

00:24:47.180 when you mask up half of a person's face, I mean, that's where we display a lot of our nonverbal

00:24:52.300 communication through, you know, facial features. I mean, it's part of our development. It's what we

00:24:57.020 do. And when you cover that, this causes harm. Absolutely. You can't avoid that.

00:25:03.180 Yeah, definitely. There was a research done in Germany where researchers basically just

00:25:07.880 asked parents for a survey of, you know, have your kids complained about mask wearing or

00:25:12.000 come home and said anything to you about mask wearing? And the comments were pretty stunning.

00:25:16.460 I think it was something like 70, 65, 70% of parents said their kids had increased feelings

00:25:21.160 of anxiety. They were more nervous. They were stressed. They said it made learning more

00:25:25.080 difficult um seeing facial cues is incredibly important we know this and and so covering

00:25:30.180 teachers faces covering other children's faces in schools uh is really it's just inexcusable

00:25:35.260 and it's going to cause demonstrable harms going down the road and as far as just i mean the soft

00:25:39.660 social harms meaning you know we need to see that even with strangers interacting on the streets

00:25:43.140 and that's that's not just uh it's in every walk of life you need to see people's expressions

00:25:47.900 and again like you said it might be a little bit more defensible if there was some demonstrable

00:25:51.820 benefit. But every time we do these comparisons, that's what I did in the book, you know, there's

00:25:55.460 no difference in areas with mask mandates often do worse. Well, that's it. I mean, you know,

00:26:01.820 to some degree, perhaps people could have been excused two years ago when we really didn't have

00:26:05.900 the numbers and we weren't sure. People are in a bit of a panic. This is a new virus going around.

00:26:11.480 I mean, it is real. So, yes, let's get out there and mask people and see if it knocks it down. But

00:26:16.380 at this point, I mean, you show it very well in your book and just in your recent Brownstone

00:26:20.740 piece like the parallels are undeniable the the impact masks are having is negligible

00:26:27.540 right and one of my favorite examples of this which was actually a recent one

00:26:31.540 and i'm i live in southern california so this is kind of near and dear to my heart but los

00:26:35.220 angeles county in december of 2021 went around to 1500 businesses over the course of a week

00:26:40.500 and measured mass compliance and it was over 95 of people they said were wearing masks in the

00:26:46.180 stores and then cases immediately skyrocketed 20 times higher than they were before they did the

00:26:51.540 survey so you know one of those kind of arguments that we hear is oh well it didn't work because

00:26:55.060 not enough people were complying but now you have an official public health department doing this

00:26:58.980 measurement doing a survey saying 95 plus percent of people are wearing masks and it didn't matter

00:27:03.700 immediately immediately didn't matter so you know they and that's los angeles is about ready to

00:27:08.580 bring back another mask mandate so it just kind of goes to show you how little data actually matters

00:27:13.300 to these these people making decisions how much of it is just about you know whether these other

00:27:18.100 motivations fear panic as a measure of control you know it's really disheartening to see how little

00:27:23.380 data actually matters to them well it does help give that dystopian feeling of fear when you're

00:27:28.740 on the streets i mean i remember the early stages of the pandemic you walk around and see everybody

00:27:32.580 around you masked like that i mean it it felt like you're in something of some sort of horror

00:27:37.060 movie from 10 15 years ago and and uh i mean that imprints upon us that keeps us uh uncomfortable

00:27:42.980 and scared. And it's not a good development societally, I mean, in general. Absolutely.

00:27:48.040 It can't be something that we tolerate as a permanent feature of life going forward. Although

00:27:51.880 I feel like there's a lot of places around the world that are already kind of suggesting that's

00:27:56.020 going to be the case. Germany has said they want to bring back mask mandates this fall. I think

00:27:59.980 Ireland also said it. We've seen it in Los Angeles now and a couple other places across the

00:28:04.620 United States. And I'm sure there's been plenty of calls in Canada as well for the return to it.

00:28:08.880 And yet, you know, we look at Japan right now, where we know that everybody's wearing masks in Japan, and they're breaking records. The cases are the highest they've ever been. They're much higher than they'd ever been previously in Japan, even with, you know, 95 to 100% of people wearing masks. So it just is really something that cannot be tolerated for all these societal harms, especially in schools. And it also has no significant benefits that we can tell. But it's just kind of this safety blanket, I think, for a lot of politicians to come back to.

00:28:38.860 What about physiological harm? I mean, I know that's a debatable area, but I mean,

00:28:45.020 is there some harm that can be done for people trying to breathe if they are masked up?

00:28:49.420 Can it cause consequences physically?

00:28:52.540 Yeah. And there hasn't been as much great research done on this as you would like, because I think

00:28:58.220 there's not been a lot of willingness to tackle the subject for fear of being ostracized by the

00:29:03.020 research community or scientific community. But from what I had seen, there are definitely

00:29:06.700 possibilities of you know breathing difficulties and and uh and also a lot of these if you go back

00:29:11.500 and look at pre-pandemic planning a lot of documents from the world health organization

00:29:14.860 and others mention the possible harms of mask wearing of course that's all forgotten now

00:29:19.020 because it's politically beneficial but um yeah you know there's breathing problems you can have

00:29:23.820 anxiety you can have uh increased stress i think there's also so you know you can inhale things

00:29:28.940 that that come in they get trapped in the mask that can be damaging um you know and as well as

00:29:34.460 as many other environmental impacts with masks as well. So it's really kind of inexcusable and

00:29:41.040 indefensible that a lot of these harms have just been ignored because they want to promote the

00:29:45.480 policy and not engage in a trade-off discussion over what are the benefits and what are the harms.

00:29:51.960 Yeah, and I mean, some of the discussion, I mean, potentially masks could have some benefit,

00:29:56.020 but it would have to be, you know, a particular kind of mask. It would have to be very disposable.

00:30:00.880 You'd have to be constantly washing and changing because that's what happens in a hospital setting, say, with a surgeon or something like that.

00:30:06.460 But it's just not reasonable to expect people in the public to be able to use and maintain those kinds of devices in an effective way in that circumstance.

00:30:15.440 Right. And that's one of the chapters I read in the book was kind of debunking the, you know, well, if masks don't work, why do doctors wear them?

00:30:22.620 Obviously, it's not all doctors.

00:30:23.960 You know, in 2019, you weren't going to see an ear, nose and throat specialist with them wearing a mask.

00:30:28.120 it was surgeons and surgeons wear them in theory to prevent bacteria or droplets from their own

00:30:34.120 mouth getting into an open wound during a surgery or from potential blood or anything else splattering

00:30:40.360 up and hitting them in the face. However, research has shown that that's not really that effective

00:30:44.460 in doing that even where there was a study done that said that the rate of post-op wound infections

00:30:50.300 was higher in a group that wore masks compared to those that didn't. So even in that specific

00:30:56.480 purpose which is not viral transmission they don't do a great job of doing what they're supposed to

00:31:00.800 do that's obviously vastly different because like you said they're not the surgeons are using them

00:31:04.560 properly they're disposing them after every use they wash their hands general public doesn't do

00:31:07.920 that and never is going to do that so even if they were ever going to work it was unrealistic to

00:31:12.960 expect them to work in the general public considering nobody can use them properly

00:31:17.680 and then there's something else that somebody pointed out you know they're just sick of seeing

00:31:20.320 the pollution from it like these are other costs i mean yes most responsible people would

00:31:24.480 properly throw away a mask. But unfortunately, that's probably almost the most common piece of

00:31:28.880 garbage you see laying around nowadays are discarded masks. And there's an actual cost,

00:31:34.120 even if masks are relatively cheap. When you're talking about hundreds of millions of people

00:31:37.900 wearing them, this is expensive. I mean, we got better things to spend our resources on.

00:31:42.800 Yeah, obviously, we're going through a lot of economic problems right now, especially in the

00:31:46.700 United States and obviously elsewhere around the world. And, you know, spending billions and

00:31:51.120 billions and billions of dollars on something that didn't work and has demonstrable harms to it is

00:31:55.060 about as big of a waste of money as you can get. And, you know, as you say, it's like these are

00:31:59.680 environmental disasters and many environmental disasters. They're not biodegradable. They're

00:32:04.400 filled with plastics. And, you know, for people that claim to care so much about this, that,

00:32:08.480 you know, we want to ban plastic water bottles or, you know, ban plastic bags in California.

00:32:14.080 You know, they have no problem with billions of plastic masks ending up in oceans, ending up in

00:32:18.960 lakes and streams and uh and through you know wildlife and nature and it's just kind of it's

00:32:24.560 hypocritical honestly and it's really frustrating that there's been little discussion about the the

00:32:29.840 you know all these downsides to it yeah so uh getting yeah well you know another downside i

00:32:35.660 just like to bring up and remind people of too like i don't hear very well and i kind of supplement

00:32:39.660 my hearing a bit with i know my wife gets up a case i should get a hearing aid fine but with a

00:32:43.420 little bit of lip reading and i tell you when somebody's wearing a mask of course i can't do

00:32:47.120 that at all. And for people who are fully hearing impaired, this last couple of years has been hell

00:32:51.320 on them. I mean, they rely, you know, a great deal in conversing with people and masks have taken

00:32:57.620 that away from them. I mean, I'm just saying these costs, you know, that people don't like talking

00:33:01.280 about them, but we got to list them out before we talk about bringing in new mandates.

00:33:05.480 Yeah. And that, again, that's one of the biggest things I think that the media as well has really

00:33:09.560 abdicated. A lot of major media outlets have completely avoided having any discussions about

00:33:14.760 these harms and trade-offs because they have been supportive of the policy. They've personally been

00:33:19.900 scared. They also kind of want to believe in the experts and follow the science, quote unquote. And

00:33:24.980 so I think there's been a general avoidance of discussing any of these trade-offs and they are

00:33:30.180 significant. And that's a really great point about bringing up people that need to see faces

00:33:35.920 in order to communicate well and how we've kind of abandoned them out of fear and panic without

00:33:41.180 really any evidence or data to back it up. You know, I'm hopeful that a lot of places are never

00:33:46.740 going to go back to mandates, but you do see that there's going to be a temptation because once you

00:33:50.820 let this out of the box that, oh, mass stop respiratory viruses, there will always be a

00:33:55.540 reason, an excuse to bring it back. COVID's never going away. The flu is never going away. We're

00:33:59.960 always going to have respiratory virus transmission. And so now kind of pretending that mass work sets

00:34:03.860 it up to be a semi-permanent thing. Well, the rallying call has always been to follow the

00:34:08.640 science. They seem to love that when we want to jump into intrusive government policies. But in

00:34:12.600 this case, I mean, it's pretty stark and you don't have to be a specialized scientist to take numbers

00:34:18.180 and comparatively look at them. The science is pretty clear on this. They're not offering a good

00:34:22.560 benefit. I mean, is this a way maybe we can finally push back though and say, well, let's follow the

00:34:26.820 science then and just not bring in these bloody mandates? Like what can we do to stop them from

00:34:31.000 coming in? It's a great question. I wish I had a, you know, a one-stop answer. I think that

00:34:37.040 But continuing to further the discussion about the harms, continuing to show, you know, show these comparisons to to speak back forcefully against mandates, show the data, show the science, show the evidence.

00:34:48.100 That's really all you can do. You know, you can try to vote out the politicians that have put in these policies and have maintained that they're going to bring them back.

00:34:54.880 You know, other than that, there's really not that much.

00:34:56.740 you can do. I think one thing that we've all learned, especially in the United States,

00:35:04.460 is that you might not never have known who your local in the U.S. county. These advisors are

00:35:11.560 county board of supervisors. That's really important because a lot of times these people

00:35:15.540 have the authority to speak up against local public health bureaucrats who are overwhelmingly

00:35:19.100 scared, ready to go back to mask at the first opportunity. So getting involved at a local

00:35:23.680 level and trying to kind of drive change from the ground up and saying, you know, you guys are

00:35:28.680 trying to mask our kids in schools. You've been trying to force this on us for the next, you know,

00:35:33.120 for two years, and you're going to keep trying to do it forever. We're not going to let that stand.

00:35:36.520 I think that will have the greatest impact on the most people's lives if they can kind of change

00:35:40.660 at the, at this local level. Yeah, well, that's a good point. I mean, it's engaged people who

00:35:45.820 weren't engaged before. And as you said, seeing some of these bureaucrats who were always actually

00:35:49.580 there, you just never really paid attention to them or knew who they were, but now you know who

00:35:53.580 to at least send your, your concerns to. So, I mean, I guess you want to send those concerns

00:35:58.260 and be well informed. So before I let you go, you know, where can people find your book and,

00:36:02.640 and where your other writings are on the subject? Yeah, it's on, it's available on Amazon,

00:36:08.180 Barnes and Noble as well, basically anywhere eBooks as well, anywhere eBooks are sold.

00:36:13.440 I've been writing for outkick.com. Just started that a couple of months ago. So I write about

00:36:18.640 COVID there pretty frequently and I've been writing a sub stack as well. And obviously

00:36:22.800 there's pieces that show up on brownstone too so kind of a couple different places excellent well

00:36:27.920 i really appreciate your your work on it and coming on today to discuss and share a bit of it

00:36:31.840 with us uh well let's hope we can win the battle in the long term here absolutely thanks again for

00:36:37.520 having me all right thank you so that was author ian miller of uh the book was unmasked the global

00:36:44.800 failure of covid mask mandates i mean the title kind of says it all and and it's you know we need

00:36:50.800 to have these discussions we can't be shouted down i i said it before i i think we can excuse

00:36:56.720 people who were afraid before you know people who didn't we never studied into the efficacy

00:37:01.200 of masks five years ago nobody normal looked into that and when we hear about a pandemic

00:37:06.800 going around and we're nervous and we're wondering how much this is going to harm us or seniors or

00:37:11.280 vulnerable people the early part of the pandemic okay if this will help let's throw it on i mean

00:37:15.600 we want to slow this down until a vaccine can be effective or something.

00:37:20.280 The numbers are in. The numbers are in. We can't pretend anymore that we don't know. And the masks

00:37:26.220 just don't help. It's kind of, as we said before, and as we were discussing, I mean, maybe in that

00:37:31.280 circumstance, if you're constantly changing them, constantly sanitizing your hands, wearing those,

00:37:35.080 whatever they're called, N95, but that's not realistic. And as well, the thing that a lot of

00:37:41.140 people refuse to discuss is the cost. That's been the whole thing, whether it's the lockdowns,

00:37:45.860 restrictions, and masking. Cost, benefit. I mean, right now we're getting hard enough time showing

00:37:52.300 any benefit as it is. Even if there was a bit of benefit though, how does it weigh up against the

00:37:57.500 cost? And there's a number of costs. And as I said, even the physiological cost of the mask,

00:38:02.980 it's not a lot, but when you're talking about hundreds of millions of people, that's a cost.

00:38:05.620 It's a cost in pollution. It's a cost socially with us looking at each other. It's a cost in

00:38:09.680 the children's development. It's a cost in just us socially being afraid and then walking around

00:38:15.960 in this bizarre masked world. If you want to debase and degrade somebody, mask them, cover

00:38:20.580 their face, read up the man in the iron mask. I mean, this has been long known. Look at bondage

00:38:26.140 fetishists out there. I mean, one of their favorite things is to mask a person up. It's

00:38:29.860 demeaning, it's humiliating. And if I'm not going to see a benefit from it, I don't want to wear it,

00:38:35.000 Especially if it's forced.

00:38:37.260 There's where it gets to again.

00:38:38.520 And I will throw one other thing out.

00:38:41.240 There's still some people, and most don't,

00:38:43.280 but there's some people get on the case of other people

00:38:45.120 when they see them wearing a mask.

00:38:47.200 If they're more comfortable in it, go for it. 1.00

00:38:50.300 By all means, wear a whole gimp mask with a zipper on it. 1.00

00:38:53.820 Wear an N95 mask. 0.99

00:38:55.260 Wear a gas mask. 0.63

00:38:56.800 Wear a thong on your face.

00:38:57.940 I don't care.

00:38:59.360 Just don't tell me what to wear.

00:39:01.760 There's where we have no problems.

00:39:03.600 You wear what you want, I'll wear what I want.

00:39:06.340 And I believe in private businesses being able to do whatever they like too.

00:39:09.100 And I know some people differ with me on that.

00:39:10.400 But no, I'm with it.

00:39:11.440 If a private store wants to say masking only in here, fine.

00:39:15.000 I just won't shop there.

00:39:17.020 And look, they aren't doing that because it's not going to work.

00:39:21.780 They know that.

00:39:22.800 There's some of the irony, you know, when we saw the head of the Canadian Calgary Chamber of Commerce.

00:39:29.180 I forget what her name is.

00:39:30.300 It doesn't matter. 1.00

00:39:30.980 She's completely inept when it comes to business. 1.00

00:39:33.200 even though she heads the Chamber of Commerce. 0.99

00:39:35.380 And she was talking about when we lifted the mask mandates,

00:39:38.460 how this is going to harm businesses

00:39:40.740 because people feel more comfortable going into them

00:39:43.860 when there's mask mandates.

00:39:45.040 And if they don't have to wear masks

00:39:46.240 and if they don't have to show their vaccine passport,

00:39:48.660 they're not going to go to the businesses.

00:39:50.640 Total incompetence.

00:39:51.740 She has no idea, obviously, 1.00

00:39:53.740 but she was just a business writer.

00:39:55.040 She never actually ran one. 1.00

00:39:56.420 That's why. 1.00

00:39:57.240 But these are the bureaucrats.

00:39:58.120 These are the senior people.

00:39:58.720 These are the ones that influence people like city halls

00:40:01.000 and things like that.

00:40:01.820 and we had that one virtue signaling bar in calgary says we're going to keep the uh the

00:40:08.580 vaccine passports because we know our hipster customers want it and they will come flooding

00:40:13.320 to us and they will like it and we'll become a specialized place that's safe and we'll do really 1.00

00:40:16.500 well that lasted for like two weeks they got rid of it people weren't coming out so again hey it's 0.94

00:40:22.680 your choice absolutely but it's a stupid choice i mean we kind of started that earlier like i said 0.99

00:40:27.580 And, you know, Val Bella, that guy had the choice to go on an anti-trans, anti-gay tirade in an email. 1.00

00:40:35.900 It's his choice, but he's paying a pretty terrible price for it.

00:40:39.580 His business.

00:40:40.660 You know, I feel bad for the staff, the other staff, and his partners, and so on.

00:40:44.500 And as I said, it's a business that's been there for nearly 50 years, and I got a feeling it might not survive this.

00:40:50.060 But, hey, leave it free and open.

00:40:53.140 But that's not the way of bureaucrats. 0.98

00:40:54.960 They don't want to do it that way. 0.64

00:40:56.060 They want to legislate it.

00:40:57.060 They want to force it. Gil McGowan, old Gil. He's got some real special talents, that guy.

00:41:03.240 If he can get out of an impaired ticket with the best of them. He was trying to sue the government

00:41:09.740 to force masking in schools. Why so hung up on it? And they want to force it. The city halls

00:41:15.840 that want to force it. It's a power thing. It's a power thing. Cut it out. Reason with me. Don't

00:41:21.160 tell me. Try reasoning with me. You'll get a lot better results out of me. But I mean,

00:41:26.640 You know, how often are our stories constantly on this with just infringements on our freedoms?

00:41:33.780 You know, Dave talked about that.

00:41:35.400 Naylor, our news editor, when I checked in with him earlier.

00:41:37.920 With the police, they had a funding blacklist, right?

00:41:40.300 So they had a blacklist of names of the crowd funders linked to the Freedom Convoy, according to access to information records.

00:41:46.600 A list of individuals and their credit ratings.

00:41:49.620 And it was sent to a crown bank.

00:41:51.620 Like, the government doesn't think twice about stepping on our individual freedoms, whether they're privacy, movement, or protest. 0.97

00:42:01.840 This year, we have stepped back so far in individual freedoms with that imbecile of a prime minister imposing the War Measures Act. 0.96

00:42:12.120 I'm still going to keep calling it that. 0.97

00:42:13.760 I know, it's the Emergencies Act.

00:42:15.840 Yes, they called it that once they changed it from the War Measures Act.

00:42:18.860 And what it is, is martial law.

00:42:20.900 It is. It's not an exaggeration. Look up to the definitions and see martial law. That's what happened when you are stepping on individual rights to, you know, pass something along when you when you set them aside for a supposed emergency.

00:42:38.500 see. So, you know, this government has just gone so beyond the pale and the convoy, that was just

00:42:46.480 the latest thing. That was just the latest infringement, but it was huge. And the repercussions

00:42:51.280 are still happening. And this government does not want to let go of power. So, I mean, here we are,

00:42:56.260 yeah, you know, they're sharing your credit rating even with police officers and things like that.

00:43:00.760 And searching out things from people who donated to, you know, GoFundMe accounts and that.

00:43:05.340 It's not a good period right now.

00:43:07.320 And here's an interesting one, though.

00:43:08.460 Now the House of Commons Ethics Committee is going to investigate whether the RCMP spied on parliamentarianism.

00:43:14.620 Parliamentarians.

00:43:15.780 This is funny.

00:43:17.220 This is ironic.

00:43:18.540 Now they're getting mad because they discovered that this federal police force,

00:43:22.180 that they've empowered so much to step on the privacy and individual rights of other citizens, 1.00

00:43:27.700 they'd turn around and bit themselves on the ass. 0.99

00:43:29.540 Hey, yeah, they're actually spying on you, too. 1.00

00:43:32.260 Go figure, you morons. 1.00

00:43:34.800 Hey, you're supposed to be the same as every other citizen. So now you're upset. Well, maybe 1.00

00:43:39.440 you should have spoke up before giving the RCMP so many extraordinary and emergency powers.

00:43:43.200 Yeah. So yeah. I mean, this, this follows an admission from police. They use spyware

00:43:47.440 to monitor smartphones. And again, I don't think the house of commons was all that considered

00:43:51.280 worried about that until somebody raised their hands. Wait a minute. Does that include ours?

00:43:55.760 Yes. Oh, now we got a problem. Yeah. Now we got a problem.

00:44:00.240 them. So yeah, covertly and remotely obtained data from targeted computing devices. This is the

00:44:06.800 term from the inquiry of ministry on this. And it's a conservative MP who's been pushing on it,

00:44:12.480 but I mean, all of them are getting a little worked up with this. And so they use spyware

00:44:16.240 capable of downloading all the information logged on a smartphone, including email and other private

00:44:20.960 communications, photographs, videos, audio files, audio recordings of private communications,

00:44:25.960 electronic documents.

00:44:27.840 There could be some pretty,

00:44:29.080 people keep everything on their phone now.

00:44:31.400 It's not a minor incursion on your privacy.

00:44:34.900 Electronic documents,

00:44:35.820 people on a smartphone now

00:44:37.180 could potentially have business documents

00:44:39.520 that they want to keep discreet,

00:44:40.620 things that you would normally keep

00:44:41.440 in a locked file cabinet,

00:44:42.940 things that you would keep secure.

00:44:46.080 I mean, there could be secrets in there

00:44:47.180 that, again, they're not criminal.

00:44:49.080 They're just things that you don't want

00:44:50.220 shared in public,

00:44:51.180 notes, calendar entries, spreadsheets,

00:44:53.200 or your personal videos.

00:44:55.300 you know, I mean, maybe you were dancing around the room with that mask on and a feather duster 0.99

00:45:00.360 shoved up your butt. That's your personal video and your personal business. We don't need the 0.98

00:45:04.900 police downloading that and viewing it for their own titillation. This should be very serious. You

00:45:11.300 should not have blanket abilities to get into people's devices or private possessions whatsoever

00:45:17.840 without a warrant. I mean, that should be individually granted to be able to search

00:45:22.780 into things like that, not just a blanket thing. But now these guys in the House of Commons have

00:45:29.380 realized it applied to them. And I tell you, if there's any clowns, they were going to have some 0.86

00:45:32.680 weird perverted videos on them. Come on, look at our MPs. These guys are all wacko. Even that last 0.95

00:45:37.740 liberal can't even get through two Zoom meetings without somehow showing his wang. So yeah,

00:45:43.860 it's kind of, it's all bouncing back on them. Speaking of incompetent government, I'm always

00:45:48.380 speaking of incompetent government. Let's see, they acknowledge they fixed a glitch in the

00:45:52.220 Arrive Can app. Oh, how long has this thing been going on? The Arrive Can app. Why are we still

00:45:58.680 running this bloody Arrive Can app? Again, it's a government obsessed with control. You know,

00:46:03.820 they've been embarrassed across the world over Pearson International Airport being one of the

00:46:08.240 most horrific airports in the world to deal with. And things such as the Arrive Can app are a large

00:46:13.900 part of it. And this is trickling all the way down, crushing our tourism sector, our hospitality

00:46:19.800 sectors. And now we're finding out, yeah, even, so it sent messages to some travelers last week

00:46:25.680 telling them they needed to quarantine, even though there were no signs that they had COVID

00:46:31.160 and they were vaccinated. Now, I mean, your Canadian drones are visiting other type of

00:46:37.300 tourists and everything. Some of them might just blindly, oh, well, that sucks. And they'll lock 0.99

00:46:41.360 themselves up because you got to remember everything on that app comes with a threat.

00:46:45.080 it's a gun to your head. It's not a suggestion. You got to remember that this is something saying

00:46:49.900 we will fine you $5,000 or potentially arrest you if you don't quarantine yourself. And they,

00:46:55.400 oops, we accidentally forced a bunch of people into quarantine that didn't need it. Get rid

00:46:59.960 of this app, you incompetent idiots. Man, this is not a lack of damage. This is a lack of 1.00

00:47:08.260 of competency, but they won't because this app controls things for them. It's all about control.

00:47:15.780 It's always been about control. And man, it says, oh, the warning was sent to roughly 3% of

00:47:23.300 travelers and appears only to have affected Apple devices. So what? And only 3%? Like three out of

00:47:32.140 100 people being told that they have to quarantine when they didn't have to quarantine, basically

00:47:36.960 putting them under house arrest is what it is. And this is not a minor problem, but they

00:47:45.380 push that along to the side. I mean, here's a neat one too. So I'm seeing Greenpeace. Ah, yes,

00:47:51.160 our favorite extreme green activists, they're advertising, they're holding a basic action

00:47:57.240 training session in Toronto. Yes, in a couple of weeks. No, I think it's in September. So yeah,

00:48:05.040 they're actually going to train you on how to break the law, how to block streets, how to hang

00:48:10.980 off of bridges. Again, we're chasing Tamara Leach literally across the country and harassing and 1.00

00:48:18.580 hounding her. Meanwhile, these professional protesters, these ones who make literally a 0.99

00:48:24.180 career out of it, are holding training camps in the open about how they can basically cripple our

00:48:28.800 economy and shut us down repeatedly over and over again. Are they going to arrest these guys when

00:48:33.460 they do their things and keep them in without bail? Of course they won't. Usually they arrest

00:48:37.600 and they don't even charge them. They do charge them, they get bail right away. There's a gross,

00:48:43.080 gross double standard when it comes to protests out there right now. And Greenpeace, these guys

00:48:48.020 are nuts. You know, I'm tired of people trying to act as if Greenpeace is some sort of rational 0.99

00:48:53.340 environmental group. There's one of the ones that you got to follow the money. This is a

00:48:57.620 a corporation that's international, that is employing a whole lot of people making a hell 0.99

00:49:03.440 of a lot of money and using useful idiots to stick them out there for their protest efforts 0.99

00:49:08.580 all over the place. Like these guys are extreme. Yet we accept them having training sessions in 1.00

00:49:15.240 the middle of our cities on how to attack our own industries, our own economy, and stop you

00:49:22.360 from getting to work. I mean, and where do we go with this, right? Let's see another story out of

00:49:29.640 Dave there. Yeah, the Department of Canadian Heritage, they spent $1,024 studying how to

00:49:35.940 dispose of a firearm. I mean, you know, people say, yeah, it's just a drop in the bucket. Yeah,

00:49:41.000 with the size of our budgets, that is a drop in the bucket. But really, if they're going to flush

00:49:47.080 the small amounts, they're flushing the bigger amounts. I could use a thousand bucks right now

00:49:51.300 for something, I'm sure it could do something better than trying to find out how to do something

00:49:54.860 that I can just walk up to any police detachment and say, hey, I want to dispose of this firearm.

00:50:00.780 They'll say, thank you, take it away from me, and they'll go dispose of it. It's not that hard. It's

00:50:05.360 not that complicated, unless you are a bureaucrat. Then it's complicated. Then you suddenly can't

00:50:12.440 seem to figure out how to do these things. I like the comments out of Franco Teresano. We have him

00:50:18.200 on quite often, actually, because he's the one who found this one. You know, as the bureaucrats

00:50:22.300 have somehow managed to turn a free service into a $1,000 bill for taxpayers, he said,

00:50:26.280 hopefully the bureaucrats of Canadian heritage don't play roll up the rim and turn a free coffee

00:50:29.860 into a $10,000 expense. There's just no, you know, I love seeing these things. I mean, I don't know

00:50:38.780 why people entrust them so much of their life, their security, and their money to the government

00:50:43.500 when you see so many examples of just how incompetent bureaucracies are and ineffective.

00:50:48.300 I mean, they're a necessary evil.

00:50:49.980 I'm a libertarian-minded guy.

00:50:51.800 I want to see minimal government.

00:50:53.520 I understand we'll always have to have some, but you want as little as possible.

00:50:57.640 And how can you not read these crazy examples of what they do with the money they take from

00:51:01.540 you and not realize that?

00:51:03.780 We don't need more government, guys.

00:51:05.180 Government's the problem, not the solution.

00:51:07.960 All right, let's bring our next guest in.

00:51:11.280 and that's Tammy Nemeth, I hope I'm pronouncing that right, Dr. Tammy Nemeth, she's a historian

00:51:16.820 and a host of the Nemeth Report, how are you doing?

00:51:23.680 Okay, just, you may be muted there, Tammy, we're not getting sound out of you,

00:51:32.980 you can just check your devices and we'll see if we can get some sound coming.

00:51:36.280 do you hear me at all okay apparently not so uh we'll just put tammy into the lobby there for a

00:51:44.960 bit and sort out the uh sound issues and such uh maybe nico can send a message either way uh yes

00:51:51.140 we wanted to talk to uh about some of the things the international sustainability standards board

00:51:56.040 and um some of the the other efforts and terminology that we've got going on right now

00:52:01.740 with basically attacks against our energy sector, you know, and it's always couched in these

00:52:07.680 international initiatives with these long words, but, you know, ESG, I mean, those are terms that

00:52:14.680 just make me cringe the second I hear them. Perhaps we got that sorted out. Hey, how are you doing?

00:52:18.920 Good. Can you hear me?

00:52:20.280 Excellent. Yes, you're coming in great now. Thank you very much.

00:52:23.480 Sorry about that.

00:52:24.700 Oh, that's okay. As I always say on the show, we do live, you know, that comes with some

00:52:28.400 different hiccups, but it still makes for a better interaction. So I appreciate you coming on to join

00:52:33.640 us today. And, you know, there's just so much going on. I mean, we've got a world in an energy

00:52:39.400 crisis. We've got a country that's sitting on some of the best energy resources on the planet,

00:52:44.600 yet we still seem to be determined to shut ourselves in. Absolutely. And there's this

00:52:49.680 new global baseline standard for sustainability and climate-related financial disclosures,

00:52:55.440 which is basically ESG on steroids. And it's been drafted by this organization called the

00:53:00.840 International Financial Reporting Standards Foundation. Now, Canada is one of the 140

00:53:06.580 jurisdictions that follows the IFRS standards, and they're meant to provide some level of

00:53:12.460 standardization of accounting standards in the world. Now, after COP26, a new International

00:53:18.620 Sustainability Standards Board was created out of the IFRS and its goal is to create a global baseline

00:53:27.660 for accounting for carbon emissions, anything related to sustainability, climate, and they have

00:53:34.060 three building blocks, sustainability, climate, and then industry-specific standards. Canada has agreed

00:53:40.220 to support this initiative. We lobbied for and we got one of the ISSB offices in Montreal. It was

00:53:47.900 inaugurated at the end of June. Then at the same time, we created the Canadian Sustainability

00:53:54.060 Standards Board. And its job, they said, is to work in lockstep with the ISSB to implement this

00:54:01.380 new baseline in Canada. So right now, they've issued a proposed draft standard. It's open for

00:54:09.480 comment until Friday. So time is quite short to put in your opinion about what this thing means.

00:54:15.960 and although hydrocarbons are the main target right now, agriculture is affected and pretty

00:54:23.460 much every industry that operates in Canada, there are 68 industries that fall under this

00:54:29.060 standard for accounting for a person's climate footprint. Well yeah, they use the word

00:54:36.220 sustainability, that's kind of been a loaded word for quite a long time because you can just read

00:54:40.640 so many things into it to push a further agenda. And it's, it's pretty, you know, subjective as

00:54:47.320 or I mean, objective, what somebody would define as sustainable. I mean, they can point to anything

00:54:52.880 and say it's unsustainable and we need to reduce it, but they don't go any farther with that.

00:54:56.400 And right now, as you said, it's hydrocarbons and, and yeah, there's quite a move on our farms.

00:55:00.080 Like it's, it just seems like madness when we're all suffering from cost of living increases.

00:55:04.660 Exactly. And the cost to implement this for small businesses or even large businesses,

00:55:09.760 When the Security Exchanges Commission was doing something similar in the United States, their comment process ended in June.

00:55:17.340 They estimated to comply with these new standards would cost a company up on average $644,000 a year.

00:55:27.100 Now, how is a small mom and pop operation or a small oil producer or a farmer or a rancher supposed to pay $644,000 to comply with all these new standards?

00:55:38.600 like one of the things that they include is the monitoring of scope three emissions now a lot of

00:55:45.260 this a lot of this sounds arcane right you've got scope one scope two scope three what does all this

00:55:50.300 stuff mean well scope three is everything so whatever a company produces they're supposed

00:55:55.420 to follow it down the value chain who's using it how much are they using it how are they disposing

00:56:01.020 of it how did the product get to somebody what happens with it down the road they're supposed

00:56:06.640 to account all of that as part of their emissions profile. So the more you produce stuff, the higher

00:56:13.600 emissions profile you're going to have, which would seem rather weird that you're trying to

00:56:20.480 basically cut down businesses that produce things. So then we'll all become a service economy, I

00:56:25.280 guess that works. Yeah. I mean, it's just seems so inane and unreasonable. I mean,

00:56:36.000 the term we hear a lot too is that esg so environment uh so social and uh governance

00:56:43.040 but i mean again and that's loaded as well i mean now you got to start talking about social impacts

00:56:48.080 and they well that that's all over the map but i mean part of the problem i see is companies

00:56:53.360 won't push back on this like they they're beaten into silence they're afraid to speak up and they

00:56:58.880 keep complying and complying and uh to be honest i i think they're kind of somewhat the authors of

00:57:04.160 their own destruction until they stand up for themselves here. Absolutely. And there's no way

00:57:08.960 a company can comply out of this. You just can't. It'll permeate everything. And like with the oil

00:57:16.720 and gas companies, if you're an exploration and production company, they want you to account for

00:57:22.780 the embedded emissions in your reserves, which will count against a company because the standard

00:57:29.960 is meant to be used by banks, by insurers and investors. So if they're trying to limit the

00:57:35.780 amount of emissions in their overall portfolio, what are the odds they're going to support a

00:57:40.800 company that has large reserves? Because those reserves will be counted against the company.

00:57:46.200 So in a time of energy insecurity, as you mentioned, why are we adopting a policy or a

00:57:52.600 standard that will basically compromise our oil and gas reserves. Well, they'll be counted against

00:58:00.220 a company. Yeah. And some of those bars, I mean, one of the things that people forget, and it drives

00:58:05.340 me bananas when I hear from some people saying, oh, Energy East was shut down because it wasn't

00:58:08.920 financially viable. Well, no, it was shut down because the government made it financially

00:58:12.860 unviable. It was always viable before that. And the big one was they were going to make the

00:58:17.820 producers responsible for downstream emissions. Well, you don't know what the end user is going

00:58:23.260 to do with that product. Maybe they're going to consume it in a non-emission sort of manner. But

00:58:28.440 I mean, it's something you can't commit yourself to, so the investor's pulled out.

00:58:32.060 Exactly. And honestly, for what's supposed to be an accounting standard,

00:58:36.520 why would you require companies to account for something they're not in control of?

00:58:41.220 Usually in accounting, you can only account for things for which you're responsible.

00:58:45.060 and therefore if you misstate something or you omit something you can be held liable because

00:58:50.520 that's under your control and you didn't report properly but with this it really leaves companies

00:58:57.460 open to litigation for mistakenly say something or they omitted something that an activist investor

00:59:04.220 thought they should have included so it'll open up a can of worms for litigation for the for

00:59:09.960 companies. And it's really death by a thousand cuts. Well, and likewise, just like in the case

00:59:16.460 of Vancouver with their lunatics and city council are suing oil companies for global impacts while

00:59:22.300 overlooking all the benefits, you know, of those long lifespans and not freezing to death in winter. 0.81

00:59:26.920 But I mean, it's the same sort of principle. They want to hold companies responsible for

00:59:31.800 downstream emissions when they had no control over those to begin with. Exactly. And if I can

00:59:37.480 just segue a bit into agriculture because with the new fertilizer ban or reduction that they that

00:59:44.000 they that they're putting forward what this standard does is it says that if you're a livestock

00:59:49.620 producer and you sell your livestock to say JBS or you know a big meat producer that meat producer

00:59:57.500 will require you to say whether or not you operate in an area of high or extreme high risk water

01:00:04.360 stress well if you look on and they and they use the world resources institute aqueduct program

01:00:10.360 very controversial the data is not so good they don't use provincial data or anything um and if

01:00:16.120 you're found to be in one of these areas you could be denied um funding from the banks or the the

01:00:23.160 producers will say look we've committed to reducing our our sustainability stresses in areas of high

01:00:29.480 to extreme high-risk water so i'm sorry we can't take your livestock we can't take your grain

01:00:35.720 so it's yet another attack on agriculture at a time of food insecurity where these these poor

01:00:42.360 ranchers and farmers are going to be held to account for emissions and operating in high to

01:00:48.360 extreme high-risk water areas and if i can just point out that's pretty much all of western

01:00:53.000 saskatchewan or western canada southern saskatchewan southern alberta southern manitoba all fall within

01:00:58.840 that region and it also happens to be the region for fracking where the bakken plays are where all

01:01:05.000 the major um shale plays are in the united states almost all of them fall within an extreme or high

01:01:12.360 extremely high water stress area so it looks like we could be binding ourselves to this agreement

01:01:18.840 or these policies in a few days uh what sort of enforcement though is is there if we sign on i

01:01:24.920 mean we get a lot of these things they're aspirational they talk about it but they don't

01:01:28.200 actually mean to follow through, or maybe they do mean to, but they've always failed. I mean,

01:01:32.720 we've never hit even close to an emissions target yet. What sort of trouble could we get in if

01:01:38.500 another government comes in the future and says, well, we're not going to comply with this?

01:01:41.820 By doing the IFRS standard, the banks will do it. So it's a way for governments to get around

01:01:50.720 the bad press and the anger that will come. It'll be left to the banks, the insurers,

01:01:56.580 and the investors who sign on to this.

01:02:00.380 If Canada, with its Sustainability Standards Board

01:02:03.660 and its Montreal office for this,

01:02:06.260 if they agree to implement it,

01:02:08.540 there might be a possibility down the road

01:02:11.080 that a future government can say,

01:02:12.880 you know what, I don't think we want to do this.

01:02:14.500 We're going to say it's not enforceable in Canada.

01:02:19.180 But if all the banks are saying we want this,

01:02:23.420 it'll be difficult.

01:02:24.600 It'll be difficult to do.

01:02:25.620 and that's why they're doing it this way, so that no one can escape. And Brian Moynihan of Bank of

01:02:30.540 America was very clear in May when he said, this is a way that no one can escape from it, to bring

01:02:37.480 it in through the accounting standards, because it'll just become another part of accounting

01:02:41.700 and no one will escape. It sounds insidious. As you said, there's a few days to write letters.

01:02:50.120 I mean, as one of my commenters, Brad said, you know, the million dollar question, what can we

01:02:53.740 do about it well i i've been encouraging as many people as possible to write a comment letter

01:03:00.180 you know expressing your support of the canadian oil and gas industry emphasizing energy security

01:03:06.060 no scope three emissions no scenario analysis stop the the water stress thing because that

01:03:12.400 it will just devastate western canadian agriculture and our petroleum industry that operates in the

01:03:18.820 Bakken plays or even in the western sedimentary basin because that pretty much falls within that

01:03:24.580 high stress area. So you can send a letter to commentletters at ifrs.org and they post them

01:03:34.040 probably within 24 hours. So if you send a letter it gets up there right away and it's a way to at

01:03:41.480 least express discontent before it gets implemented here in Canada. Great and where else before I'll

01:03:48.700 a building can people find more information about this then uh you know to find those

01:03:52.300 addresses and that uh if they haven't written you're down um i wrote a report about this

01:03:57.100 called counting carbon molecules it's on my website which is the nemeth report.com and it

01:04:03.660 has links to my podcast my op-eds that i've written recently and this new report about it and

01:04:10.460 i have the information there on where they can go to submit comments at ifrs.org so please go

01:04:17.820 Go to my website, check it out.

01:04:19.240 It's thenemethreport.com.

01:04:22.080 Great.

01:04:22.600 And then help me correct the pronunciation of your name

01:04:26.100 as I was asking at the start of the show.

01:04:27.700 So Nemeth Report.

01:04:28.600 Okay.

01:04:29.120 I appreciate that.

01:04:31.200 Well, thank you for coming on today.

01:04:32.920 There's still a few days to go.

01:04:34.460 Hopefully some folks get there.

01:04:35.660 Maybe sometimes common sense prevails.

01:04:37.980 It seems we usually have to fight pretty hard

01:04:39.600 for that to happen though.

01:04:41.180 So thank you very much for coming on today.

01:04:43.820 And I hope we can talk again down the road.

01:04:46.100 Thank you so much, Corey. Have a good day. Thank you.

01:04:49.060 You too. Thank you. So yes, this was Dr. Tammy Nemeth. And speaking of what basically are,

01:04:56.260 we're going to be bound into a backdoor way. So they're using accounting principles like they

01:05:01.060 bury it. It's just so, as I said, the term I use is insidious. They're always looking for another

01:05:06.660 way to sneak these things in, to push these things in and to corner and stop. And, and,

01:05:11.940 you know, as some commenters were saying, it's hard for businesses to stand up

01:05:15.220 to these because they can get shut out of business i i know but also i'm getting tired of the 0.96

01:05:20.900 quizlings in the energy sector i i'm tired of the the cnrls and the shells who keep capitulating and 0.80

01:05:27.140 saying we're going to change and we're going to do this and apologizing for themselves all the

01:05:30.420 time because you know what it's never enough it's never enough they will just take more and more

01:05:36.500 you're dealing with ideologues not with rational people so quit trying to make a rational approach

01:05:42.020 to them because you're not going to win. You know, citizens, of course, and that's why the

01:05:46.520 letter writing is important. I mean, try to express ourselves. But I do think these businesses

01:05:50.520 have to stand up as well and realize that if you don't, they're just going to keep steamrolling.

01:05:55.720 And yeah, now they're using the banks to do it. And that's something the environmentalists have

01:05:58.820 been doing for a while, you know, when they talk about divestment and they're trying to push the

01:06:04.200 insurance companies away from capital projects or from investors away from these things as well.

01:06:09.640 and they're castrating these companies financially.

01:06:13.160 But what's it doing when it comes down?

01:06:14.320 Again, there's only one consumer and it's us.

01:06:16.380 We pay higher prices.

01:06:17.660 We deal with energy shortages.

01:06:19.320 So this is gonna hit the agricultural area.

01:06:21.420 So we're gonna have food shortages.

01:06:23.500 And this is happening right in front of us.

01:06:25.740 And we're not hearing nearly enough about it.

01:06:27.940 So again, look up Dr. Tammy Nemeth

01:06:30.160 and check that out, get on there, write a letter.

01:06:33.200 There's a few days left.

01:06:34.960 Brad's saying, do you think they'll even read it?

01:06:36.840 Maybe, maybe not.

01:06:37.760 But you're guaranteed nothing if you do nothing.

01:06:41.160 So there's little to be lost in pushing back and trying.

01:06:44.800 I mean, as Melissa said, same thing.

01:06:47.020 It's worth a shot.

01:06:48.900 We've got to keep trying.

01:06:50.020 I just can't give up.

01:06:51.140 I get cynical a lot.

01:06:52.400 I get tired.

01:06:52.900 I get angry.

01:06:53.800 But we can't give up.

01:06:56.460 And let's see about getting the address in the video area.

01:07:00.560 I'm not sure, Brad.

01:07:02.040 I've limited controls here while I've got the show on the go.

01:07:04.600 But I would suggest the best way, like I said, is to look up Dr. Tammy Nemeth and you'll see, find her website and you can get all that information there as well. So yeah, lots of stuff to cover going on. Okay, I got to speak to a sponsor quickly before I move on to some more news items. And that is, speaking of rights, speaking of freedoms, the Canadian Shooting Sports Association. These guys are a fantastic group. You know, you don't even have to own firearms to take out a membership with these guys.

01:07:31.540 If you support your neighbor's right to own, enjoy firearms, trade firearms, collect firearms, target, shoot, hunt, all of those things.

01:07:39.700 These are the guys standing up for them.

01:07:41.440 These are the ones sharing those resources.

01:07:43.160 It's an association.

01:07:44.500 There's other things beyond, you know, just the lobbying.

01:07:47.120 I mean, you can get links to trade shows, to events.

01:07:50.360 They also keep you up, though, on news and things that are happening.

01:07:53.220 But they advocate very strongly for your right because we've got a government that's trying to take it away from you.

01:07:57.400 and uh tony bernardo has been a fantastic advocate for years with the canadian shooting

01:08:03.020 sports association so if you are not a member of them yet i strongly suggest you become one now

01:08:08.000 it's good for yourself it's good for your other neighboring firearm owners and uh again as i said

01:08:13.580 it feels futile but we'll never win unless we push back all right uh and anna lori pears asking

01:08:21.260 the correct spelling of name. Yes, that's it. N-E-M-E-T-H. So you should be able to find her

01:08:27.980 and again, you know, see some of the work she's done as well in covering a lot of these things.

01:08:32.920 So let's see here. Speaking to the farmers, this was something interesting because I saw

01:08:37.820 the only reason this is noteworthy because I've been talking about day after day anyways, though,

01:08:41.180 was an associated press story actually was out on Dutch farmers protesting the government and

01:08:46.840 they were dumping manure and garbage on highways, I guess, over in the Netherlands, and are still

01:08:52.160 pushing back quite hard on the fertilizer bans that their government has been doing. So maybe

01:09:00.420 the mainstream is finally starting to pay a little attention to these protests that have been going

01:09:04.960 on for a long time, because what we're seeing in Canada is foreshadowing, is what it is. You know,

01:09:12.540 it's what's going to happen here. We're attacking our food supply. This is, as I said, they're

01:09:18.100 ideologues. They're not rational people. Look at Justin Trudeau. He is not a rational man.

01:09:24.140 He's a nut and not a smart one even. You know, at least if we get some lunatics in a James Bond 0.99

01:09:29.440 movie, at least they're smart and conniving. But Trudeau's not even all that bright. 0.94

01:09:33.620 But we're paying a terrible price for it. But again, he never has to worry about how to

01:09:37.240 pay a grocery bill or make the rent or make a car payment or a mortgage payment. He's a

01:09:42.280 trust fund baby and a lot of these people in cabinet his associates and these senior bureaucrats

01:09:47.660 these are people of privilege it's funny they they like to go after oh everybody else is 0.99

01:09:52.700 this white privilege of that crap the real privilege are those elites the laurentian elites 0.99

01:09:58.220 that small group of people who really do control this nation and these are guys that have no 0.99

01:10:03.640 understanding how it is for the common people on the ground no idea the pressures they put on

01:10:08.840 when they bring in these ideologically driven legislations, these initiatives that are only

01:10:14.780 going to make things more expensive for us and cause us more trouble. And boy, we're signing

01:10:21.100 into this in a couple of days. Great. You know, we sign these trees. As I said, we typically don't

01:10:26.300 follow through. We're typically incapable of managing to meet these targets, even though we

01:10:31.340 set very aggressive ones all the time. But, you know, we can sure hurt ourselves a hell of a lot

01:10:37.620 in trying though, can't we? And here we go. Let's see what else is popping up on the Western

01:10:43.440 Standard for the top stories right now. Yeah, those two men arrested for the Surrey murder of

01:10:48.500 that acquitted mass killer. That was one of the Singh Maliks. Going all the way back to the 80s, 1.00

01:10:53.660 you know, that was a travesty in Canada that a lot of people forget about. With the Air India bombing

01:10:57.260 back then, I mean, that was the worst mass murder in Canadian history. That happened on our soil, 0.68

01:11:01.460 and people forget about that. And there was a number of gentlemen charged, and it took the

01:11:05.560 cops years and years to charge them. By the time they charged them, the evidence had gone too cold

01:11:11.040 and they acquitted them all. I don't know if they were guilty or not. I certainly wouldn't say that

01:11:17.360 if they haven't been proven in a court of law and if they were the incorrect man, fine, but they

01:11:21.120 never, never charged anybody for that murder. Like never convicted anybody of it. You know,

01:11:27.380 not in a realistic way. So not only was it one of the worst murders in history that they got away

01:11:31.340 with it, but there's still some terrible things happening in that community and quite a gang war

01:11:35.360 going on, and these guys are now shooting each other over in Vancouver. Vancouver's had some

01:11:40.940 crazy stuff. Our reporter out there, Reid Small, on the West Coast, has been writing a lot about

01:11:45.540 the strange shooting of transients, you know, and then the Langley shootings. This world just 1.00

01:11:52.160 seems to be going mad sometimes. I've got a feeling this thing's always kind of happened,

01:11:55.180 but we get so much exposure to it in social media, too. You can't avoid it. You see it,

01:11:59.140 And it just gets depressing sometimes turning on the news.

01:12:05.060 But let's see, is somebody there, Tracy, saying, you know,

01:12:08.660 what's it going to take for Canadians to stand up for our farmers like people in the Netherlands are? 1.00

01:12:12.460 I'll tell you, Tracy, it's going to take a kick in the ass. 1.00

01:12:18.460 You know, we're complacent. 1.00

01:12:19.580 We're lazy.

01:12:21.480 When it's not directly hurting us, when we're still getting by, we don't do anything.

01:12:24.960 Canadians have prided ourselves on our politeness, on our, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, our apologies all the time, on being laid back.

01:12:34.060 And unfortunately, that's not a virtue.

01:12:36.340 It's not a virtue at all.

01:12:38.560 I mean, being rude isn't a virtue either, but we have this thing about not standing up for ourselves.

01:12:44.000 But I tell you what, and I said that on the show the other day when I was speaking with somebody too, when you can't pay the bills, nothing else matters.

01:12:52.720 When you suddenly might be facing losing your home, whether it's a rental or a mortgage,

01:12:58.920 you're not going to care if Prime Minister Dingbat wants to make more emissions targets and hold hands with people at UN meetings.

01:13:07.060 It doesn't matter to you anymore.

01:13:09.260 If you are actually worrying because your kids are going to school hungry,

01:13:13.720 you're not going to care about Gilboa wanting to shut down industries in the West.

01:13:19.500 when you're suffering that way and that directly with that stress, that's when people will get up.

01:13:26.000 And that's when no amount of environmental fear mongering or COVID fear mongering or any of that

01:13:30.840 crap is going to stop people. It's not here yet. We've got our inflation going through the roof.

01:13:36.860 We've got our farmers screaming for mercy as these fertilizer bans come on. We've got energy

01:13:41.600 emergencies going on all over the world. And still, we're putting up with it right now. So

01:13:48.740 we haven't been kicked in the ass hard enough, but eventually we will. Eventually we will. I mean, 0.99

01:13:54.300 even the most passive of mice, if you're starving to death, it's going to fight for its life.

01:13:58.880 And we're moving towards that. I mean, maybe not starving to death, but people are going to be

01:14:02.340 living an incredibly terrible lifestyle if these ideological lunatic pushes against, you know,

01:14:09.140 that are raising our cost of living are allowed to carry on. And they seem to be carrying on.

01:14:13.500 So, you know, what will it take? Well, it's going to take a little more time and a little more pain.

01:14:18.740 maybe a lot more pain, but we've got to push back when we can. Let's see, Lesley Lewis,

01:14:26.620 looks like she's not attending that next debate as well. She was kind of signaling that before, 0.88

01:14:33.200 you know, with the Conservative Party. We've got to wonder, the Conservative Party's in unity

01:14:36.800 within, you know, internal, that's always a challenge as well. They're always infighting,

01:14:42.120 and this is the party, it seems, against Lesley and Pierre Polyev, or at least the two of them are

01:14:47.780 had enough of the party. I don't know if a third debate was a good idea or not. I'm not managing

01:14:54.520 the party, but both of those candidates said, no, I just don't want any part of it. God knows that

01:14:58.740 the party did screw up the other debate badly enough earlier, you know, the sad trombones and 0.98

01:15:05.780 the comical crap like that. But either way, so there's going to be at least two candidates not

01:15:11.880 attending that debate. I don't know how well viewed it's really going to be then when that

01:15:17.020 comes along. Uh, yeah, you know, here's Peterson, uh, you know, in that story, as we said, I mean,

01:15:23.000 uh, you know, Brad's saying it might be too late when it's talking about things having to get

01:15:25.800 worse before they get better. Peterson, you know, Jordan Peterson has been saying kind of the same

01:15:29.360 thing. He said the worst is yet to come from Trudeau. Uh, Trudeau's an ideologically driven,

01:15:34.240 you know, like I said, madman who's not terribly bright and, uh, he's not going to stop. He's not 0.93

01:15:40.180 going to stop. He's going to keep bringing these things down. And Hey, it's until we push back,

01:15:45.280 Brad thinks, you know, it might be too late by the time we do. Maybe. It's never too late. We

01:15:48.920 could hit bottom and bounce back, but that bottom and bouncing back might be a case of 30 or 40

01:15:52.760 years. Brad and I might not live long enough to see the bounce back. We just see the train coming

01:15:58.320 and all we can do is keep trying to point it out to people and hope they start paying attention

01:16:04.100 because, man, I mean, the warnings are on the wall. This drives me nuts with inflation. I mean,

01:16:09.920 I do this every few shows because I love saying I told you so. I'm not going to one of those people

01:16:12.960 I hate to say I told you so. No, I love saying I told you so. Because God knows I predict things

01:16:17.480 quite often that are wrong. So that's no fun. Often I predict things and they come true. And

01:16:21.840 then one of the easiest ones I could predict, and that was a year and a half ago, is that we're

01:16:25.920 going to face inflation and interest rate hikes. And those are all over the place. People pointing

01:16:32.980 that out a year and a half ago as the governments everywhere around the world opened the floodgates,

01:16:37.020 started printing money. They devalued your currency. And then what do you think happens?

01:16:43.460 The banks raise the interest rates. This is as predictable as predicting water is wet. Yet our

01:16:48.880 government can't seem to figure that out. Apologists in Canada too. Oh, there's nothing

01:16:52.900 Trudeau could do about it. It's around the whole world. Well, just because every country's doing

01:16:55.980 a stupid thing doesn't mean it's not still a stupid thing. Every country spent like mad. So 1.00

01:17:01.440 every country's enjoying this great devaluation of their currency right now, which leads to that

01:17:06.600 higher cost of living. Not every country is shutting in their oil and gas resources like

01:17:11.100 our idiot Prime Minister is with us, though. Russia actually just announced that they're 0.99

01:17:14.900 expanding their oil export capacity up in the northern area of their country. Yeah,

01:17:20.160 they're building more terminals and ports to sell more and get the world more dependent on them,

01:17:24.980 while Canada is shutting in theirs. Guys, think harder. Think harder. It's funny, I got a memory

01:17:33.200 that came up on my Facebook.

01:17:34.420 It's five years ago today

01:17:35.500 when Donald Trump blocked me on Twitter.

01:17:37.320 I won't go into the whole story

01:17:38.220 on how it would led to that.

01:17:39.140 But either way, just to say,

01:17:41.260 I like some of the stuff Trump did,

01:17:42.720 but for the most part,

01:17:43.320 I wasn't a big Trump fan.

01:17:44.300 But I keep mentioning Trump was dead right

01:17:46.280 when he was warning people years ago.

01:17:50.260 He was warning Germany.

01:17:51.120 He said it and they smirked at him. 0.98

01:17:52.980 He said, you guys are becoming

01:17:55.260 too dependent on Russian oil 1.00

01:17:56.400 and it's going to bite you on the ass. 1.00

01:17:57.480 I'm paraphrasing. 1.00

01:17:58.240 And they smirked and kind of laughed him off. 0.56

01:18:00.020 Well, how are you sitting now, Germany?

01:18:01.260 How's that working out?

01:18:03.200 and still the world is becoming even more dependent on energy from Russia because the

01:18:08.160 alternatives are not there. We're not going to windmills. We're not going to electric cars.

01:18:11.800 We're not going to solar. We're not allowed to dam any new rivers, and we can't get any new

01:18:15.340 nuclear plants approved. So you know what? Canada might be dependent on Russian oil pretty soon too

01:18:20.560 at the rate we're going, which is so ridiculous and almost obscene considering we're sitting on

01:18:25.480 top of so much of it right now. So much. It's an ugly future going on. So let's talk about some 0.60

01:18:32.700 other things. If you haven't caught it, by the way, I mentioned it earlier and she was on. Melanie

01:18:36.840 Risden put out the first of her series and it's a series called COVID Freedom Heroes. She's got

01:18:41.800 seven of them, I believe, in the can. We're going to be releasing those regularly. It's like a

01:18:45.660 documentary series. And last night's episode was with Jean Carpet with the Justice Center for

01:18:53.000 Constitutional Freedoms. And it was very well viewed last night. Check it out on the Western

01:18:56.860 Standard, you know, Facebook site or our Rumble channel spots like that. You can see it. And it's

01:19:01.480 a really good watch and more of them are going to be coming out as well. Linda Slobodian, you know,

01:19:05.920 she's a columnist and has written a lot of stuff and she's been working. I had her on the show

01:19:09.160 last week to talk about this. It's coming out on Friday, her documentary on the Afghan debacle on

01:19:16.000 how basically Canada let down its allies in Afghanistan. She interviewed a number of retired

01:19:21.080 generals on it and is all put together with her and Nico in a 40 minute documentary. It's going

01:19:25.940 to be very informative. These are new moves for the Western standard. You know, it's different

01:19:30.100 turf for us, getting into these longer productions, these more investigative. And Linda and Melanie

01:19:35.200 have both done fantastic jobs. So keep watching our channels and get in there and check those

01:19:39.800 things out when you get some time. Cheryl saying, is there a UCP debate tonight? Ah, you're way

01:19:44.480 ahead of me. Yes, Cheryl, there is. It starts, I believe it runs from five till seven. And we are

01:19:51.140 going to be streaming it. It's going to be streaming on the Western Standard channels.

01:19:53.620 so uh you can watch that uh while it goes uh as well the after that i believe in the the pipeline

01:20:00.500 our weekly show it's wednesday we're busy busy busy so dave and derek and i are going to get on

01:20:05.100 and we'll have that show coming out for you know half an hour or so discussing a lot of the issues

01:20:08.240 and things like that uh the debate that's coming up will be in in medicine hat for people who can

01:20:13.340 go there in person it's the ucp debate i believe every candidate's participating uh the western

01:20:18.120 standards holding a debate i'm pretty sure it's august 11th you can look on this website and get

01:20:22.520 tickets there. That'll only have three of the, I guess you could say presumptive front runners

01:20:27.060 running in it, Daniel Smith, Brian Jean, and Travis Taves, but it'll be a smaller, intimate

01:20:33.400 sort of environment. You can go there and it'll be at the rooftop bar in downtown Calgary and check

01:20:37.920 it out, get close, you know, meet up with those candidates and their campaign teams. So there can

01:20:41.900 be a lot of events to help you make up your mind and figure out who you are going to vote for.

01:20:47.160 So tune in tomorrow. We got for speaking of different parties, you're going to have Paul

01:20:50.300 Hinman on and the new

01:20:51.760 maybe president of the Wilder's

01:20:54.140 Independence Party. Their fighting is still going on.

01:20:56.320 They're still figuring out what's happening.

01:20:58.060 It sounds like most of the members, I'm just guessing,

01:21:00.360 are by far behind

01:21:01.460 Mr. Hinman as the leader.

01:21:03.860 But meanwhile, the board still

01:21:06.100 refuses to acknowledge it. So as far as Elections Alberta

01:21:08.140 is concerned, if you look on the website, it's

01:21:10.160 still G. Van Manget is an interim leader

01:21:12.180 and still Rick Northey

01:21:14.100 is a president. I'm not sure.

01:21:16.200 Maybe we'll clear the waters a little bit when we talk

01:21:18.060 to Paul and I guess tomorrow, though. This could be going on

01:21:20.100 for a while. And we're going to have Professor Trevor Tucker on. He's written a number of

01:21:24.620 columns for us, usually one a week. And, you know, he likes getting into more of those

01:21:27.800 philosophical, cerebral type columns. And they're really good. They're nice weekend reads.

01:21:32.700 We'll discuss a little more of that on his last couple of columns and just what he's been getting

01:21:36.000 at. So thank you all for tuning in today, guys. I appreciate it. And I will see you all again

01:21:41.700 tomorrow at 1130 a.m. sharp.

01:21:50.100 Thank you.

01:22:20.100 Thank you.

Western Standard - July 28, 2022

Triggered： Tamara Lich free again. For now.

Episode Stats

Summary

Transcript