Western Standard - TRIGGERED： There Was No Genocide In Canada

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00:00:30.000 If you hear me, but I'm back here and we will be in the feed soon. It looks like we're having

00:00:54.220 a little bit of difficulty with Rumble, I'm afraid too. But we will be broadcasting here

00:01:01.960 on YouTube and Facebook and everywhere else as soon as we get that image down. And I'm

00:01:08.180 not sure if you guys can hear me behind there. We just got a little bit of a different layout

00:01:12.320 today and there's going to be a couple of technical challenges we will resolve right

00:01:17.980 away, I am confident. So if you're looking at that image there, I'm sure. Aha, there we go.

00:01:25.260 I think you guys see me. Excellent. Thank you for your patience. Mondays, eh? Aren't they

00:01:29.100 something else? I mean, kick the week off. Well, at least we've got our technical headaches out

00:01:34.340 of the way on day one. I'm sure the rest of the show and the rest of the week is going to go just

00:01:38.740 swimmingly. And I should get the comments about what kind of dork uses the term swimmingly,

00:01:42.960 right? Well, I am the kind of dork that does that. It's July 25th, 2022. As I said, it's a Monday and 0.99

00:01:48.260 I'm Corey Morgan. This is a Western Standards daily live show called Triggered because I get

00:01:54.200 my blood pressure up. I get triggered. I say things I trigger other people and I get all sorts

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00:02:04.860 your feedback and thoughts with what's going on here. Just make sure to keep it somewhat civil.

00:02:09.660 we can get mad, we can question each other, you can question me, you can send questions towards

00:02:13.600 my guests, but we do want to keep it on somewhat of an even keel. So good to see you all checking

00:02:20.120 in from all over the place out there, from BC and I'm sure East Coast and all the rest of the

00:02:24.620 areas. So today I got a couple of guests on, and of course, as usual, Dan McTeague. People might

00:02:31.140 know him. He's the head of Canadians for Affordable Energy, a very good voice. He's always spoken on

00:02:35.840 things like gas prices, energy costs in general. And he speaks in defense of the energy industry

00:02:41.600 quite often, but he also, he calls a spade a spade when they seem to be hooping us. And,

00:02:46.360 you know, we had some interesting stuff going on. I mean, I'm supportive of the private market.

00:02:50.160 I want to see prices reflecting whether they're real, but it just did seem a little odd within

00:02:54.900 Alberta. You know, the prices sure go up a heck of a lot faster at the pump than they go down when

00:02:58.220 the world prices go there. So maybe Mr. McTee can break some of that down. And the Western Standards

00:03:03.180 Parliamentary Bureau Chief Matthew Horwood is going to come on and we're going to talk because

00:03:06.500 he was covering the protests last weekend out there in Ottawa. Canadians were up pushing back

00:03:12.980 and upset with, well, I guess standing up for the Dutch farmers out there and things like that. And

00:03:18.520 I think it's a bit of a crossover of protesters from all sorts of other things they're upset with

00:03:24.260 too. These things kind of turn into a generic protest at times. So yeah, I'm going to get my

00:03:27.880 rant going guys and get it on. And listening to the radio this morning and hearing the language

00:03:33.120 and then getting into the newsroom and watching on the TV.

00:03:35.060 Yes, the Pope's visiting and he's apologizing for residential schools and things.

00:03:39.540 But we've got to correct some stuff, guys.

00:03:41.540 This language is beyond the pale.

00:03:43.220 So it's about some time somebody came out and said it

00:03:45.440 because the language being used by activists

00:03:47.040 and fed by the legacy media is getting to be too much.

00:03:50.080 So let me say it loud and clear.

00:03:52.700 There was no genocide,

00:03:54.420 and not everybody who ever attended a residential school was abused,

00:03:58.140 nor should they all be labeled as survivors.

00:04:00.820 Let's look at the definition of genocide. It's the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group. This never happened in Canada. I don't know how many times I've got to say it because you hear it on the news over and over again and it's going uncorrected. There is actually a list of recorded established genocides in the world. It's unfortunate. It's long and horrible. It's got nearly 40 entries. Humans have a long history of trying to exterminate groups among themselves.

00:04:29.400 The list begins with the Holocaust, of course, with a death toll of 6 million,

00:04:33.820 to a Tasmanian war at the bottom where 600 to 900 Aboriginals were killed in the 1820s.

00:04:39.200 Canada was not on the list anywhere, because, let me say it again,

00:04:43.140 there has never been a genocide in Canada.

00:04:46.380 And listening to the coverage of the Pope's visit to Alberta,

00:04:48.520 it's hard to make it a minute without, though, hearing the word genocide used.

00:04:51.840 It has to stop. It's wrong, and it's perpetuating a horrible myth.

00:04:55.780 I listened to a person on the news this morning referred to as a survivor

00:04:59.160 because she'd attended a day school on a reserve.

00:05:03.260 She's not a survivor any more than the rest of us who attended public schools as children.

00:05:08.240 Survivor is a loaded term.

00:05:10.060 It implies there were efforts to kill somebody, and this didn't happen.

00:05:13.900 It's not to say there haven't been abuses committed within schools,

00:05:16.400 whether day schools or residential.

00:05:18.340 We know there have.

00:05:19.520 Let's quit pretending that every child who ever attended school

00:05:22.580 is immediately to be considered a survivor, though.

00:05:25.120 or of attempted genocide. I mean, because that narrative is being pushed right now and it has

00:05:29.940 to be corrected. There's a culture of perpetual victims being built here and it's having the

00:05:34.080 exact opposite effect of reconciliation. Compensation and apologies for residential 0.85

00:05:39.380 schools. It's now being offered to the descendants of the former students because the damage is now

00:05:44.000 being considered intergenerational. This is a cast cow for class action suits and the lawyers are

00:05:49.860 doing very well and some activists, they're getting very rich and they want to keep this

00:05:53.380 happening for generations. Let's quit pretending that it isn't the money inspiring those activists

00:05:57.480 and lawyers right now. The Pope's going to be offering apologies today. Some will say they're

00:06:02.320 welcome, but they're also going to say it's not enough. It's never enough. The compensation is

00:06:06.560 never adequate. The Catholic Church has a long history of wrongdoings, from actions during the 0.99

00:06:10.720 Crusades to abuses against children, indigenous and non, by priests in the last few decades.

00:06:16.420 They took no part in some sort of Canadian genocide, however. It's wrong to deny there

00:06:21.840 was wrongdoing against natives in Canada. No, absolutely. The government, churches, even private

00:06:25.620 citizens did terrible things in the last century and some to our First Nations. It's also wrong

00:06:31.440 to create a myth of genocide and universal abuse. One watches the news today, you would think that

00:06:36.200 every indigenous person in Canada attended a residential school and that every one of them

00:06:40.240 were abused. If one, you know, over the course of the century, a century when those schools were

00:06:44.460 going, 150,000 children attended residential schools. That's it. Over 100 years. And not too

00:06:50.740 many of them are alive today. Not because of genocide. It's because it happened a long,

00:06:55.020 long time ago. A few thousand children are known to have perished in those schools during that

00:06:58.940 period. And this isn't to be dismissed, but we have to look at it in the right lens. In the early

00:07:02.760 part of the 20th century, tuberculosis, polio, and the Spanish flu killed children across North

00:07:07.340 America. Native children were no exception. And those schools, I mean, they were overrepresented

00:07:11.960 by the deaths, and this is worth looking at. The schools are often underfunded. The children were

00:07:15.780 malnourished at times. And yes, there were some abuses by predatory criminals who found their way

00:07:20.260 into positions of power in those schools.

00:07:22.920 Those things have been more than addressed now,

00:07:25.040 though, and reparations have been made to the people directly affected.

00:07:27.320 If there's more, then let's dig up some graves and find the evidence,

00:07:29.560 but they won't do that.

00:07:30.900 Canada was turned upside down over some anomalies

00:07:32.840 found with a ground penetrating radar unit in Kamloops last year.

00:07:35.760 And again, terms like mass murder and genocide

00:07:37.860 were used by activists and media alike.

00:07:40.060 They need to be corrected.

00:07:41.240 To date, not a single grave has been identified,

00:07:43.460 though the term mass graves is still being used.

00:07:46.040 Do we really want truth and reconciliation?

00:07:48.220 Well, we have to begin with truth.

00:07:50.080 The truth is there was no genocide in Canada.

00:07:52.700 Let's start there.

00:07:53.900 Because reconciliation isn't going to happen until there's truth.

00:07:56.820 The truth is, again, not every Indigenous person who set foot in a school is a victim of something.

00:08:02.520 Let's start there.

00:08:04.060 Perpetuating falsehoods and trying to create an entire culture of victimhood is serving everybody poorly, Indigenous and non-Indigenous alike.

00:08:10.740 So let's start correcting the record and saying things like they are, guys.

00:08:14.480 Because this exaggeration and everything isn't serving anyone well.

00:08:17.800 All right, that's what's got me going, kicking off the week.

00:08:20.880 Let's check in with our news editor, Dave Naylor, and see what's happening in the rest of the world.

00:08:24.380 Hey, Dave, how's it going?

00:08:25.520 It's okay, Corey. That was a good Monday morning rant.

00:08:28.680 I had to get that out. Coverage is just too painful to behold.

00:08:32.120 It is. It's very painful.

00:08:34.220 Hey, I hear you have some other flying creatures to deal with this weekend, not the bees.

00:08:39.360 No, I found a nest of yellow jackets.

00:08:42.180 So, yeah, I mean, I crossed my efforts, you know.

00:08:44.220 I'm trying so hard to manage to keep these bees alive since I started beekeeping.

00:08:48.100 And then I was trimming some branches, and one fell down,

00:08:50.160 and I discovered a large nest of yellow jackets next to my garage.

00:08:53.060 I didn't get stung, and I destroyed them with pleasure.

00:08:57.180 I sprayed them and tore apart their nest, and I don't care what anybody says.

00:09:00.900 They're evil, nasty bugs, and they were going to harm my bees, and I feel no regrets.

00:09:05.420 Good for you.

00:09:06.800 Make no apologies, Corey.

00:09:09.100 But apologies the Pope did.

00:09:10.900 mere minutes ago he said he was deeply sorry for the catholic church's role in the uh

00:09:17.060 aforementioned residential school situation uh he was in the uh central alberta area of macquise

00:09:25.140 and made the apology in front of the prime minister and the and the governor general

00:09:29.060 so as i mentioned that's just happened uh our arthur green is busily bashing out the story

00:09:34.180 as we speak. It was a horrible weekend of violence in British Columbia this weekend, Corey.

00:09:42.200 And it ended this morning with a guy in Langley apparently losing his mind and going out and

00:09:48.900 shooting homeless people. The RCMP will not confirm the number of victims, but they do say

00:09:54.860 there are several people dead and the gunman is in custody. And that sparked an emergency alert

00:10:02.000 about 6 a.m. this morning, Corey, on BC cell phones, telling people in Langley about this

00:10:09.260 and that they had better take cover. So we've got an initial story up and our Reid Small out in

00:10:15.460 Vancouver is working on that. He's also working on the brutal assassinations of a couple of known

00:10:23.340 or at least one known gang member in broad daylight in Whistler Village yesterday.

00:10:28.580 these two were getting out of their vehicle and and were gunned down so the cops are investigating

00:10:36.500 that one they were able to arrest two people near Squamish after a vehicle was set on fire

00:10:41.860 and then they're still hunting for a man who killed two women in Chilliwack last week his

00:10:49.660 getaway vehicle is found in Bridal Falls which is about 20 kilometers east of Chilliwack and

00:10:56.680 But they've searched the area, and as of now, they have not come up with the suspect.

00:11:04.620 Other stuff that's already up on the website, the sex habits of the world's most interesting man keep coming up.

00:11:13.000 Elon Musk has denied he had an affair with the wife of the person who founded Google with him.

00:11:20.120 He says he's too busy to have sex, in fact, just despite the fact that many of his conquests are spitting out children on a regular basis the last month or so.

00:11:32.720 And, yeah, lots of good stuff on the site, lots of breaking news.

00:11:39.240 So that'll all be coming up this afternoon, Corey.

00:11:42.900 Right on.

00:11:43.620 Well, always busy in the newsroom.

00:11:45.620 I'll let you get back to coming up with more of that good stuff for us, Dave.

00:11:49.100 And, you know, we've got to find out what's going on with Musk and his wayward pecker.

00:11:53.080 Yes, the New York Post had a great headline today on front page.

00:11:56.940 They said, Muskrat.

00:12:00.200 Yeah, some of the stuff makes it easy for us.

00:12:02.400 All right, thanks, Dave.

00:12:03.180 I'll talk to you later.

00:12:04.800 All right.

00:12:06.120 That is our news editor, Dave Naylor.

00:12:08.580 And yes, as we see with the check-in, we cover a lot of things from some of the kind of lighter, fun things.

00:12:13.320 Perhaps it's not fun for those personally tied to Elon Musk.

00:12:15.640 But, you know, boy, it's kind of a soap opera.

00:12:17.940 And as he says, he's a very interesting man.

00:12:19.700 If nothing else, like him, hate him.

00:12:21.140 He is fascinating.

00:12:22.140 There's no getting around that.

00:12:22.980 He disrupts this world and things.

00:12:25.420 So this is where I like to remind everybody, though.

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00:12:27.900 I'll be talking to Matthew from Ottawa.

00:12:29.780 I've talked to Reid out in BC.

00:12:31.360 We've got Melanie here in Calgary.

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00:12:34.840 Arthur's working up in Edmonton.

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00:13:05.140 All right, let's see.

00:13:06.000 We'll talk about a bit more stuff from the comment scroll.

00:13:07.540 I see Tammy McLean saying,

00:13:08.680 what you need to do is quit downplaying residential schools.

00:13:11.860 I'm not, Tammy.

00:13:13.080 I'm not.

00:13:14.100 You know, that's what I mean.

00:13:16.020 this is some of the language. You're not allowed to critique anything unless you're saying you're

00:13:19.000 denying it happened. No, I'm not denying it happened. I want us to be truthful about what

00:13:21.920 really happened, though. Nobody's saying they were nice or good or a good idea or there wasn't

00:13:27.200 a need for some reconciliation. But what I'm tired of now is the bullshit. There was no genocide. 0.99

00:13:34.300 Now, for me to say there was no genocide isn't downplaying what happened at the residential

00:13:37.700 schools. It's saying there's no genocide. It's a simple sentence. It's just like if somebody was

00:13:41.620 beaten terribly right in front of me, and I point out the person wasn't murdered,

00:13:48.480 it's not downplaying the fact that the person was beaten. It's just pointing out the fact the

00:13:53.380 person wasn't murdered. We need clarity on what's really happened. And we aren't getting that.

00:13:59.140 We're getting exaggeration. We're getting words like mass graves when there are no mass graves.

00:14:04.160 We're getting words like genocide when there was no genocide. We're applying the term survivor

00:14:10.440 to everybody. Everybody. As I said, a young woman on the media who obviously never attended a

00:14:18.600 residential school, that was clear, she attended a day school. In other words, she attended a school

00:14:22.260 on a reserve. And the media refers to her as a survivor. Well, then fine, we're all survivors.

00:14:27.280 Every morning you get up and you're still breathing, your heart's still ticking, you survive

00:14:30.400 the night. And what it does do is undercut those who really did suffer abuse in the schools because

00:14:36.120 some did and let's get to those and find who they were if we can charge who's responsible if they're

00:14:41.420 still alive but there's not many because most of this happened 100 years ago but we just keep going

00:14:46.520 on and on and on we're dragging this issue on forever it's not good for the people who went

00:14:52.200 to those schools it's not for up good for up and coming generations when they listen to those

00:14:55.920 loaded words when they listen to these exaggerations and they believe that this really

00:15:00.140 happened they believe there was a systematic effort to eradicate first nations people there

00:15:05.020 was not. Hell, even the, if you want to look it up, the smallpox infected blankets, because people 0.93

00:15:09.920 like throwing that one at me all the time. It's a myth. It's a myth. It's a well-documented myth.

00:15:15.120 Let's stick to the facts. And when you stick to the facts, it's not saying we're downplaying

00:15:19.060 anything. It's not saying that everything went well or was proper. It's just getting to the truth.

00:15:25.140 And we have to have critical discussion to do that. And yeah, I'm watching just the ongoing

00:15:29.560 apologies, apologies, apologies. And you know what? It's never enough. At some point, you have

00:15:33.480 to actually say it's behind you. It's not to say it didn't happen, but we're not even letting that

00:15:38.760 wound heal because we keep tearing it open and then exaggerating. If anything, we're widening it

00:15:43.240 and it's wrong. And I'm going to keep being critical on this because we're doing a disservice

00:15:48.600 to this country by pretending there were mass graves, pretending there was genocide

00:15:52.240 and just into this ongoing issue that just seems to have no end. And it's not doing any favors.

00:16:00.880 You know, it's one of the commenters.

00:16:06.740 Where are we? 0.98

00:16:07.540 Somebody was saying, you know, the Catholic Church is no bloody good. 0.96

00:16:10.620 Hey, I'm no big fan of the Catholic Church. 0.96

00:16:12.540 Don't worry. 1.00

00:16:13.220 I'm not here to apologize for them.

00:16:14.660 And I said that in my opening, too.

00:16:16.360 They've done a lot of bad things historically and not too long ago in some cases.

00:16:20.000 They did cover-ups for some of their pedophile priests.

00:16:22.700 And we're talking in the last 20 years and stuff.

00:16:25.660 But I only want them nailed for the stuff they really did.

00:16:29.960 And, you know, people don't understand as well.

00:16:33.600 Again, and I've talked to guests about that, like what these schools were about.

00:16:37.120 Why were the churches always in them?

00:16:38.540 United Church, Catholic Church, all of those churches who took part.

00:16:42.040 Because back in those days, that's how social services happened.

00:16:44.340 We didn't have the big bloated government that took care of everything back then.

00:16:47.800 I remember in Banff, when I was a kid where I grew up,

00:16:50.000 it was still nuns at the Mineral Springs Hospital in town.

00:16:54.240 Because those hospitals and everything began with religious people managing them.

00:16:59.140 They were semi-charities. And back then, if you were looking for some sort of institution to take care of orphans, indigenous or non, it typically was churches, you know, sanatoriums, all sorts of things.

00:17:12.340 Again, churches, did they always run them well? No. Did they always run them humanely? No, we know that. But that's why there was so much church involvement back then.

00:17:20.700 And so we just, you know, it's funny, like I said, they call it a truth and reconciliation commission, yet we seem to hide from the truth when it comes to discussion of it.

00:17:32.180 And I mean, they're hard truths, but I'm sick of the exaggerations, exaggerations.

00:17:38.500 Why is the legacy media not correcting it? Instead, they say it. They're saying it to genocide. Where? Where?

00:17:44.960 It's not. It's not by any definition. It's not registered as a genocide. So stop using it.

00:17:50.240 Some people say it was cultural genocide.

00:17:51.760 Well, I don't know.

00:17:52.540 There were some efforts in some schools, absolutely.

00:17:57.460 Some kids got punished for speaking their own language.

00:17:59.420 There were some people with that full intent to wipe out the cultural identity.

00:18:02.980 I don't deny that.

00:18:04.400 Was it a full-out mandate?

00:18:05.860 Was that the goal?

00:18:06.560 I doubt it.

00:18:07.160 I doubt it because the culture still seems to be hanging in there, guys.

00:18:10.920 And it took pressures.

00:18:12.480 And a genocide again?

00:18:13.560 No, it was not.

00:18:16.640 So let's have that discussion.

00:18:19.020 Let's get there.

00:18:19.600 I would love to see this actually resolved.

00:18:22.920 Let's get it behind us.

00:18:25.300 Jet Gorgon saying, we need the diaries and records of priests and nuns at residential schools.

00:18:28.320 Yeah, those might be hard to get.

00:18:31.540 You know, we can't get real flies on the wall.

00:18:33.740 We have to rely on the records we got.

00:18:35.360 Some of which, and I've talked about that on before, you know, is the archaeological records then.

00:18:40.320 I mean, the big thing that's really set that off, the reason that literally I'm looking out the studio window here

00:18:44.780 and seeing the TV and this ongoing ceremony out by Hobima with the Pope there apologizing and

00:18:50.880 meeting with First Nations people. It was all set alight by the Kamloops school discovers.

00:18:56.980 And still to this day, they haven't excavated a single anomaly that the GPS found, haven't found

00:19:03.080 a single body. Maybe there are 200 bodies down there. By the way, it's not even 215. They've

00:19:07.920 already corrected that down. 200 potential bodies. That's all even, you know, the most

00:19:13.420 an expert, if you want to call it that,

00:19:15.380 was to say about this yet.

00:19:16.880 It's been 14 months.

00:19:18.580 When are we going to follow up?

00:19:20.120 When are we going to try and find out

00:19:21.300 what happened there?

00:19:22.400 Instead, we allow people to get away

00:19:23.860 with terms like mass graves.

00:19:25.160 What mass grave?

00:19:26.400 We don't even know if there's

00:19:27.120 a single grave there yet.

00:19:28.760 And if we do find graves,

00:19:30.140 what were they?

00:19:30.920 Were they settlers?

00:19:32.180 Were they children?

00:19:33.120 Were they grown people from the school?

00:19:36.000 People have this myth

00:19:36.920 that there's a bunch of missing children.

00:19:38.360 They aren't missing, guys.

00:19:40.160 They aren't missing.

00:19:40.760 They were documented.

00:19:41.500 Again, doesn't mean they weren't abused.

00:19:43.420 doesn't mean some children didn't die in those schools, but there was a record of it.

00:19:49.260 And yes, as others are saying, you know, Johnson 66, why no exhumation?

00:19:55.320 Jet Gorgon, potential is not actual. That's right.

00:19:58.480 So we need to get in there. I mean, if this really was criminal,

00:20:02.600 then let's get a forensic investigation, shouldn't we?

00:20:07.200 If it was anything else, it would have been.

00:20:08.980 You know, as I had said in a past rant, if this had been bodies in my yard, I wouldn't even have had a choice.

00:20:14.920 The police would have taped it off and moved in, started digging, and find out why these bodies were there, how they died.

00:20:20.040 And we aren't doing that with this.

00:20:21.640 14 months later, then all I can assume is there's no crime.

00:20:27.000 So, again, but immediately when I talk about these things, as I said, I get comments saying you're trying to understate what happened.

00:20:34.620 No, I just want the truth.

00:20:35.960 and there's a lot of people with a very strongly vested interest in keeping that truth hidden or

00:20:42.360 exaggerating what happened. I think a lot of, you know, what's going on and a lot of the reason

00:20:49.980 those bodies haven't been dug up, and I'm not saying with all of them, but for some of the

00:20:53.100 case, there's a lot of people don't want it because they do fear there won't be anything found

00:20:56.400 and they're making, doing too well in having the mystery. All right, well, let's get ready for our

00:21:02.600 guest and that's Mr. Dan McTeague. It's been a while since I've had him on. I like always introing

00:21:08.460 because I'm so hard on the Liberals, but we do have to show the difference. There's the Trudeau

00:21:12.080 Liberals and there was the days when the Liberals were of a more respectable cut, I would like to

00:21:16.800 say. And Dan's of the older gang there. How are you doing, Dan? Feeling old today, Corey.

00:21:23.300 You know what? With these high prices, it's all coming back into vogue, especially when you

00:21:28.480 considered the national debt and the fact that in one fell swoop, our good friends with the

00:21:33.380 Governor of the Bank of Canada just added or removed $13 billion from the federal government's

00:21:39.280 ability to finance next year's social programs. So I guess being old liberal is coming back in

00:21:45.580 style big time. Well, in some ways. And again, you know, liberal is not all a dirty word. I

00:21:50.200 consider myself a classical liberal. We just have to retake the term. But I mean, we are seeing a

00:21:56.020 of history repeating itself i mean things really look a heck of a lot like they do

00:21:59.700 did in the 80s to a degree the early 80s i mean we don't have double digit interest yet but

00:22:04.020 the inflation the high energy prices the the government taking on a large amount of debt

00:22:10.100 it's not like we haven't been on this roller coaster before no and we saw how hard it was

00:22:14.740 to tackle what happened in the 70s 80s and early 90s the excesses had to eventually come

00:22:21.940 to some settlement and that settlement was very painful and I was part of a government that had

00:22:28.820 certainly said to provincial governments we're going to we're going to impose on you we're 0.98

00:22:32.900 going to download and we're going to cut bat services and I fully remember Jean-Claude Saint

00:22:37.940 Caucus one day a particular organization had been pushed by our women's caucus I think the name of

00:22:44.580 the group at the time was the national action committee on the status of women NACSOW interesting

00:22:49.780 name and event it uh you know they were harping and complaining that there was no money for the

00:22:55.300 organization they were upset that they were being cut back and krebs quickly responded by saying

00:23:00.260 there's no money the the cupboards are bare more importantly if your organization is that you know

00:23:05.780 significant that important go fund yourselves i think we're getting very quickly to that point

00:23:10.580 where canadians are going to have to start to realize that after 25 or 30 years of very good

00:23:15.220 times a generation which has taken it for granted uh now comes the piper and it's time to for he or

00:23:21.700 she to be paid and i think that's going to be very very difficult times for canadians ahead

00:23:25.940 and rolling at the beginning of what could be a significant downturn in our economic outlook

00:23:31.620 yeah i'm afraid so and i mean it's again there was that period of austerity in the 90s that followed

00:23:35.780 the 80s and that's when every government i mean even romano with an ndp or chrétien with the

00:23:40.260 liberals or klein here in alberta everybody had to balance their books there was just no choice in

00:23:44.420 the matter anymore. I mean, as you said, you had to pay the piper. You did, but we had one

00:23:49.480 advantage that we're completely disregarding today. In the 1990s, Jean-Claude St. Paul Martin

00:23:54.640 were able to balance the budget, not just on provincial and on goodwill, which was important.

00:24:00.440 We also had this little thing called the oil and gas sector, which continued to drive more product

00:24:06.780 to the United States, build pipelines. We actually saw some significant reversals in our fortunes

00:24:13.240 because this country basically said yes to oil and gas let's sell as much as we can in the united

00:24:18.980 states the americans needed it they were on this kick of energy independence they seem to have lost

00:24:23.340 their way of late as well but i think they may very well be reconnected with that soon given

00:24:28.120 what's happened in europe but here's the situation is that we were able to uh to tackle the you know

00:24:34.620 the significant debt this country had because the revenues were going through the roof people had

00:24:39.080 jobs interest rates then began to fall people suddenly had changed in their pocket they didn't

00:24:43.960 have before and had the ability to do other things it was a miraculous recovery it couldn't have

00:24:48.760 happened if canada had done what it did today and that's basically to use my grandfather's expression

00:24:54.280 drop the drawers and crap on the very important oil and gas sector the very uh golden goose that

00:24:59.840 maintains your standard living in this country well yeah and circling back to what is your

00:25:04.320 specialty and that's affordable energy and you've always been you know putting out a lot of

00:25:07.860 information on whether it's heating gas and fuel or to gasoline, something that's been

00:25:13.400 interesting. And I said earlier at the start of the show, I mean, you speak to it bluntly on all

00:25:17.500 ends. The free market failed, it sounds like a little bit in Alberta, for example, and you called

00:25:22.100 them out for that. Our retail prices worked following the wholesale prices and some people

00:25:29.080 were getting it. Normally, I like to stand up for our energy providers, whether it's retail or

00:25:34.280 exploration but in this case something didn't go right and it led to a lot of bad public goodwill

00:25:39.300 I think. Corey look I've been following this for 1994 is when I began benchmarking and don't take

00:25:47.940 my word for it this is just what I do manually every single day you can see this is the December

00:25:54.740 to 2018 I got five other books back here I'm not going to do this to bore or impress your folks

00:26:00.580 i got 15 of these books going back to 1994 1995 and in them you'll see the wholesale price for

00:26:08.040 gasoline you'll see what the markets did for every major city across canada there's an example of

00:26:13.060 this would be back in september of uh 27 18 2019 so i can pretty much get a good idea of where the

00:26:19.840 prices are going to be going who's making what i can tell when a refiner is making a killing and

00:26:24.600 i can tell when government's making a killing i can tell the effect of what's going to happen

00:26:28.620 two or three days over the past month gas stations not just in alberta but also saskatchewan manitoba

00:26:35.500 and the interior central bc have been basically fleecing the public they have seen their wholesale

00:26:42.360 price drop dramatically now you can explain a few days where you know they have old inventory of

00:26:47.800 gasoline that is you know they still got to get through cost them more to to to sell it you can

00:26:52.880 get that for a week maybe 10 days but a month month and a half no you're taking advantage of

00:26:57.980 the public. When I see $1.79 in Edmonton or $1.81 in Calgary, and I know that it's costing them

00:27:04.300 $1.36, $1.38 to buy their fuel taxes in, that is unacceptable. And I'm pleased to see that the

00:27:12.340 Premier of the province jumped in. I'd like to hear from Manitoba, BC, and of course Saskatchewan's

00:27:19.000 Premier, because I think it's the same problem. We all want the free market to work. But when you

00:27:23.820 pull this kind of a stunt you're basically inviting those on the far left to come in and say

00:27:28.680 let's regulate gas prices you know we do that in the maritimes and they're being fleeced like you

00:27:33.400 wouldn't believe they don't get the advantage of the rest of the country and the last thing we want

00:27:36.560 is have bureaucrats decide for people what fair prices ought to be competition should bring the

00:27:41.280 best prices that are there retail margins in alberta should be no more than 15 cents a liter

00:27:45.400 and i'm being very generous that's to cover the cost of credit cards price of electricity turn

00:27:49.500 on the pumps, running their operation, paying for their taxes and doing quite well, a good

00:27:53.660 return on investment. But 40 cents, you're pushing the envelope. And I think it's time

00:27:59.220 for them to stop. And that was unfortunate, as you said, because it does invite the people

00:28:04.480 who oppose the free market. I mean, it gives them that thing to say, look, it fails. This

00:28:07.660 is why we have to intervene. And as you pointed out, that tends to work out much more poorly

00:28:11.300 for us in the end. But as I said, I appreciate you call it out when they do do it then so

00:28:15.220 they don't get away with it and hey guys come on keep it together we don't begrudge profit we just

00:28:21.720 want it within reason I mean there is competition but there is only so many retail gas providers so

00:28:27.060 it's difficult to really get a widespread and there's you know we can't call it price fixing

00:28:31.100 but they're so competitive if one raises it or lowers it then one down the street's going to

00:28:34.680 follow so yeah it worries me that one has market power maybe a couple but I think the four players

00:28:39.720 in in in our provinces the parklands the whoever's running uh imperial oil i think it's parkland

00:28:45.800 does a lot of that for them now because they've sold off a lot of their gas stations shell

00:28:49.720 suncor and maybe to a lesser extent synovus uh you know husky ought to be taking this very seriously

00:28:56.360 because it there's no other way to reflect this the numbers are very transparent i did not just

00:29:02.360 because i do it um if you look at petrocan daily rack price and you look at shell terminal rack

00:29:09.240 price. The wholesale prices are right there. Now, I'll give them the two cent or three cent for

00:29:14.100 discount, which means they're making even more money. But the numbers are pretty simple to come

00:29:19.220 by. And so on that basis, Corey, I think this is not the time to be taking advantage of people.

00:29:25.120 And, you know, you can understand 10, 15, maybe 18 cents a liter or holding back, you know, a little

00:29:30.360 bit because you're worried the prices may spike at some point, which they could and will likely

00:29:34.520 do again but that is no excuse to take advantage of somebody who you know if i'm filling up my

00:29:40.680 you know my ford uh escape with 65 60 liters it's 55 liter tank i should say and it's costing me an

00:29:48.040 extra 20 you're you're dinging me for 11 or 12 bucks every time i do this a week that's you

00:29:53.080 know that's that's a you know that's 60 50 bucks a month for a lot of families that uh that's the

00:29:58.200 the difference uh that between putting extras on the table and uh and and filling up to get to work

00:30:04.240 yeah well and i'd like to like it's a tougher area and it probably wouldn't have enough time

00:30:09.240 to fully fill up but is there a way we could facilitate more competition on the retail level

00:30:13.500 like i i you know i don't want to see another petrol canada no neither do i uh here's what's

00:30:20.280 interesting in all this and in one way i'm happy i set out to say look i'll call whoever is off

00:30:26.100 line here, you know, offside, whether that be a refiner, whether it be the government

00:30:30.500 increasing taxes, which it has, and I oppose them strenuously, publicly, vociferously with every

00:30:36.920 ounce of experience and energy that I have. I think it's important that we reveal these things

00:30:43.560 and working through the press like yourself, Corey, goes a long way at reflecting the problem.

00:30:49.540 I think sooner or later, they'll come to the realization, you know, guys, we're caught,

00:30:53.620 we we got to drop these things going through a whole thing with the competition bureau may

00:30:57.940 sound great but it's uh i worked on the dual track approach one's criminal one's civil you can get a

00:31:03.940 you can get to arrest the problem in the civil side basically by saying okay guys you're caught

00:31:08.980 smarten up but that takes months the the damage may already be done by that point so i think they're

00:31:14.980 openly sharing the data which i have i think is important and and letting people know there's a

00:31:22.500 problem i think two weeks ago no one would have given us any thought and i was pulling my hair

00:31:26.980 out saying to people you're you're being ripped off uh and i sent several tweets warnings to gas

00:31:33.380 stations listen uh you know don't uh don't abuse your uh your privilege so i think we're getting

00:31:38.820 to that point now where we don't need other than shaming and opening up the uh the numbers

00:31:43.620 transparently i think that's that's 90 of the battle right there yeah well and hopefully i

00:31:48.260 I mean, I think the ideal way would be some operator or operators say, you know what,

00:31:51.740 I'm going to take a swipe at my competitor down the road and drop my prices by 10 cents

00:31:56.260 and the people start flooding there and it just forces the issue to a proper...

00:32:00.660 UFA, UFA in both Edmonton and Calgary.

00:32:03.620 If you have a UFA station, patronize them 24-7.

00:32:06.760 Don't stop going there and don't go to where you did before.

00:32:09.960 If the difference is 30 cents a litre, it's a good reason for it.

00:32:12.700 They're not taking advantage of consumers the way other gas stations are.

00:32:15.780 So getting in the last few minutes here to the broader issue, though, I mean, that's the retail thing. We've got the big thing going on. We still have a government that's very ideologically opposed to, as you said, developing this asset. I mean, we're in economic trouble. We have high world energy prices. If anything, we should be very well placed as Canadians to weather this storm. We should be rushing to develop, but they don't sound much different than they did three years ago.

00:32:38.140 You know, the United States Department of Energy, Energy Information Agency, just released something, and I tweeted it.

00:32:48.080 They said that the United States is now the largest exporter of LNG in the world.

00:32:53.800 They've catapulted ahead of Qatar.

00:32:56.700 They've catapulted ahead of the United Arab Emirates, Australia, and Russia.

00:33:03.440 It's got to tell you something that a country like ours that had 17 projects on the books in the past 10 years lost 16 of 17.

00:33:11.500 And the last one is being vigorously opposed by terrorists.

00:33:15.820 I don't know if the liberals really understand what they've done here.

00:33:19.240 But by not being able to step up to the plate and get these things built now, when we do recognize that natural gas is the transition fuel, there is no debate on this anymore.

00:33:29.440 It's over.

00:33:29.860 However, the fact that we hummed and hawed the federal Trudeau government, I don't call them liberals, aided and abetted the organizations which fought this thing and discouraged investment is nothing short of a scandal.

00:33:43.660 And it's a scandal because you and I are going to be paying for it in terms of high interest rates.

00:33:46.780 And by the way, Corey, on this very important point, the governor of the Bank of Canada a week and a half ago came out and said, I don't understand why the Canadian dollar is not responding to the therapy.

00:33:55.500 We have $100 oil. I've raised interest rates, and it's still 130 pennies to buy a US dollar.

00:34:02.040 Because of the green policies advocated by the Trudeau government and its colleagues in the NDP and other allies across the country,

00:34:09.640 we are now paying a significant loss of our purchase power, which turns out to be inflation, which the bank governors prepared to address by even higher rates.

00:34:19.880 so you know for my friends and colleagues who live here in toronto and neighbors who are wondering

00:34:25.600 how come the interest rates have gone up two or three percent they're going to go up another two

00:34:28.940 three or four percent by the time we get to where we need to be you have to ask the question why are

00:34:34.520 canadians so blissfully ignorant to a government that has gone out of its way to vandalize our

00:34:40.220 infrastructure our assets and our future this country cannot afford to survive without its 0.94

00:34:46.160 ability to get its resources to market, a world that wants our resources more than any other

00:34:51.140 country. And yet we sit here and navel gaze and bend over backwards every Tom, Dick and Harry

00:34:55.560 organization, charities, charities, which of course should be bloody well audited because

00:35:01.860 they are not charities anymore, so that they are not continuing to obstruct and destroy the future

00:35:06.400 of my country, of my children's country and their children's country. And I'm not making a political

00:35:11.580 statement here. I think it's reality. Every Canadian who can't see this probably needs a

00:35:16.800 bucket of cold water dropped on their head right now because if they don't see it, they'll certainly

00:35:21.360 see it come up when the bailiff comes to their door to repossess their home. Yeah, as you said,

00:35:26.340 that bucket of cold water is coming and the economic illiteracy, unfortunately, I mean,

00:35:31.560 you know, you wouldn't expect to see it from the head of the Bank of Canada like that or again,

00:35:36.620 from our prime ministers who said outright, I appreciate his candor saying, I don't think much

00:35:40.460 on economic policy. Well, it shows and we're all going to pay a price. But I mean, well,

00:35:46.220 I guess we can just keep, you know, bringing it to light as much as we can and sharing the

00:35:50.400 information and hope to mitigate things and, you know, the reality check sooner rather than later.

00:35:55.080 So I appreciate the work you do on that and for coming on to talk about it with us today. It's

00:36:00.300 like I said, it's been a while. It's always good getting you on. Where can people keep track of

00:36:04.620 you? And, you know, I mean, I know you've got that very classic Excel sheet going on there, but

00:36:08.840 I do have it on computer, but I don't trust them because this stuff, unless it's, you throw water on it, there's no way it's going to, it's going to disappear.

00:36:20.480 Affordableenergy.ca is the site you can get ahold of me, present at affordableenergy.ca.

00:36:24.580 Gaswizard.ca is another one.

00:36:27.280 I do that little gas prediction site there.

00:36:29.440 There's the ability to get on there.

00:36:31.860 Of course, that's a number of ways to get ahold of me, often on Twitter as well.

00:36:35.520 If you're going to come out with a bit of a fight, get ready for one. 0.94

00:36:37.700 I don't suffer fools. 0.94

00:36:39.180 Well, I'm not in politics anymore. 0.98

00:36:40.620 I don't have to take your guff.

00:36:42.140 I understand and I appreciate it.

00:36:43.840 All right.

00:36:44.140 Well, thanks again.

00:36:45.020 Good talking to you and keep up the good work.

00:36:47.480 Thanks again, Corey.

00:36:48.240 Looking forward to more.

00:36:49.140 Cheers.

00:36:50.500 That is Dan McTeague of Canadians for Affordable Energy, or as you also said, gas price wizard.

00:36:55.740 And yeah, he's a fun guy to watch on Twitter.

00:36:58.840 He doesn't pull any punches and we need that.

00:37:01.600 And as I said, what was appreciated was he calls out the energy companies when they're

00:37:06.380 screwing you too.

00:37:07.020 So, I mean, because people accuse guys like him, oh, you're just a shill for the oil companies or this and that. 0.97

00:37:11.320 Well, no, when the companies are the refiners, the retailers are screwing us, then Dan's going to speak up there, too.

00:37:17.640 He is independent, and that's important, and it's good to see.

00:37:21.500 All right, let's see.

00:37:22.180 I'm going to pivot back a bit just to get to some comments, and maybe we can talk a bit more about what's going on with energy.

00:37:25.860 But I saw one that came up just before I started that.

00:37:27.920 See, this is getting to the point of what I was going on with my earlier rant, you know, when we talk about residential schools.

00:37:31.640 So here's a commenter about 15 minutes ago.

00:37:34.140 Magical Mind Transformation says, no genocide in Canada.

00:37:36.640 I guess you didn't learn about the government gave blankets to tribes in Canada with smallpox

00:37:41.200 that killed thousands of natives. Bullshit. I said that earlier too, because it's not true. 1.00

00:37:47.440 It's a myth. It's an urban legend. It's not true. Just because it's still going around doesn't mean

00:37:52.720 it's true. That didn't happen. Look it up, guys. That one's easy to find. But that's what I mean.

00:37:57.540 You're playing whack-a-mole with the baloney that goes around there. I mean, if those things really

00:38:02.560 happened, that would be terrifying, but it didn't happen. Smallpox killed thousands of natives,

00:38:06.880 absolutely it did, but not purposely on the part of the state, and this blanket thing was a load 0.99

00:38:11.180 of crap. There's been scientists who've already pointed out too, even if you wanted to, it's not 0.94

00:38:17.020 like you could put it into a blanket and it'll keep for months at a time to spread all over the

00:38:20.180 prairies, guys. It doesn't work that way. It doesn't incubate like that. Back then, they didn't even

00:38:24.360 have, I mean, they understood infectious diseases, but they didn't know even what germs were at,

00:38:29.680 really. But I mean, this is the mythology we got to fight. This is what we've got to talk about.

00:38:34.040 Let's talk about the real injustices that were done. And there were, there were many,

00:38:38.180 but quit allowing the false ones to dominate the narrative. Taylor Murray saying mass graves are a

00:38:44.280 pit with multiple bodies. Yeah, we don't have any. You know, we don't. A lot of these cemeteries,

00:38:50.120 I mean, the one with Trudeau where he was kneeling there for his photo op with a teddy bear. That was

00:38:54.760 a known Catholic cemetery. It wasn't some hidden graveyard. And I watched the earlier part with

00:38:59.160 the pope today and he went and did a quick prayer and service in a very large cemetery there yes

00:39:04.160 because it's the town cemetery it's been there for hundreds of years and if you look around it

00:39:07.500 there's hundreds and hundreds of wooden crosses and you know what those crosses are not going to

00:39:11.720 be there in 80 years from now wood doesn't keep that well it's just the tradition that it is

00:39:16.680 typically on first nation uh burial areas so they weren't hidden they weren't lost and they weren't

00:39:22.220 mass graves. But, you know, we got to get that discussion out there. Arlene W saying bodies were

00:39:29.960 found or bodies were not found. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, but nobody's exhumed either. You know,

00:39:34.180 I mean, that's the thing too. I should clarify. I don't want to say there aren't any. I don't know.

00:39:41.640 I don't. So let's get in there and find out what's going on. I can't, I'm in no more position

00:39:46.360 to say there are not bodies in the Kamloops school than the people who are saying there are.

00:39:51.060 There's only one way to find out.

00:39:53.100 And you need a forensic investigation

00:39:54.560 to dig down there and see.

00:39:56.840 And if they are down there,

00:39:57.800 then let's follow up.

00:39:58.860 Of course, this is important.

00:40:00.420 Was it a child?

00:40:01.280 Was it a First Nations person?

00:40:02.500 You know, genetics will find

00:40:03.240 those things out right away.

00:40:05.220 And perhaps there'd be some evidence

00:40:06.940 on how that person passed.

00:40:08.600 But until then, it's all speculation.

00:40:11.320 It's all pure speculation.

00:40:13.880 And again, as I was kind of saying

00:40:15.640 before Dan came on, 0.98

00:40:16.320 there's a reason that the parasites, 0.98

00:40:19.860 and I'll call them that. 0.57

00:40:20.920 You know, the term that's been used in the past for it,

00:40:22.960 I know it's an out of the tape,

00:40:24.200 but it's called the Indian industry.

00:40:25.720 There are a lot of bureaucrats and lawyers and activists,

00:40:28.540 as I said, who make a whole hell of a lot of money

00:40:31.380 out of these things.

00:40:32.480 And if they ended up excavating out there

00:40:34.020 and found out that there really actually wasn't

00:40:35.640 a big grave site and that these things didn't happen,

00:40:38.120 well, they're going to lose a big gravy train.

00:40:40.080 So they got a very strong interest

00:40:41.380 in making sure nobody ever digs

00:40:42.460 because they're doing well enough.

00:40:43.620 Everybody's just assuming that it was a mass grave.

00:40:45.340 Everybody's assuming there was a genocide

00:40:46.600 with no evidence.

00:40:48.220 and they're paying out as if there was a genocide.

00:40:51.940 So of course, the activists and lawyers

00:40:55.280 sucking in that money off of that

00:40:57.200 do not want this to change. 0.97

00:41:01.600 And if they really care, if they really care,

00:41:04.240 they should want to literally get to the bottom of it,

00:41:06.640 not trying to be playing a pun,

00:41:08.260 but let's get in there and excavate

00:41:09.400 and find out what happened.

00:41:11.040 And maybe it'll be worse than we imagined.

00:41:14.360 I don't know.

00:41:15.180 Howard Beu saying, what happened to Rumble?

00:41:16.680 Yeah, we just had some technical issues today.

00:41:18.080 Howard, I'm glad you found us on Facebook. We'll be back up there and broadcasting tomorrow,

00:41:22.660 which is a little different this week. It's a Monday, as I said. Jet Gorgon saying $1.95 a

00:41:27.460 litre for gas in BC and New Westminster. Yeah, we're getting, you know, a few people sharing

00:41:32.580 their local gas prices and boy, they're high. So, you know, let's like getting back to what

00:41:39.100 McTeague was talking about. Beyond that, beyond the retailers hooping us, it's also a very

00:41:45.460 expensive commodity right now for a number of reasons. I mean, when the world price is high,

00:41:48.640 so it is going to reflect at the pump eventually. And so people are also pointing out, look, when

00:41:52.140 the world price was 100 and some a barrel back in 2007, the retail price wasn't anywhere near

00:41:57.820 that high. That's true. But you also have to remember the Canadian dollar was darn near on

00:42:02.400 par with the American at that time. The formula is a little more complicated than that. This time,

00:42:07.080 our dollar isn't worth a fraction, and it's a world price. So that impacts it a heck of a lot

00:42:11.920 more as well. And there's some of the irony with the world price. We're sitting on some of the

00:42:15.140 largest energy reserves on the planet, and we're paying such a high, high premium for it. But

00:42:20.040 it was interesting to hear from Dan. Like I said, he was sitting in government with the liberals in

00:42:24.180 the 90s and talking about that difference. How did Chrétien balance the budget? Because he didn't

00:42:28.980 look at oil and gas as a bad thing. He looked at it as an asset. He facilitated it. He wanted to

00:42:34.720 see it coming out of there. And thankfully, unlike, say, Pierre Trudeau, he didn't do a grab for the

00:42:39.720 although he got his fair share out of equalization

00:42:42.220 when Alberta gets hooped in a lot of things,

00:42:44.080 he also knew that if lots of people

00:42:46.300 are working in the industry,

00:42:47.720 if lots of companies are working in the industry,

00:42:49.400 the government will get its pound of flesh federally,

00:42:52.440 even if they don't get royalties

00:42:53.820 like the provincial governments do,

00:42:55.360 they'll get income tax,

00:42:56.560 they'll get GST because people are spending money,

00:42:59.480 they'll get all of the rest of the plethora of taxes

00:43:02.160 on everything else they do, corporate taxes, you name it.

00:43:04.840 So the federal government makes out very, very well

00:43:07.080 when oil and gas is developed and sold.

00:43:09.720 And unfortunately, our current prime minister sees oil and gas as something to shut down. 0.99

00:43:18.500 And right now, again, when we're paying so much for our cost of living on every level and to be shutting in oil and gas right now, it's just so bizarre and stupid and ridiculous. 1.00

00:43:30.360 But again, remember, our prime minister is bizarre and stupid and ridiculous. 1.00

00:43:34.380 So I guess it kind of reflects that. 1.00

00:43:36.380 uh that comes full circle to my thoughts on independence because i don't know what else

00:43:40.940 it'll take because he seems to be as popular in toronto as montreal as he ever has been

00:43:44.740 uh maybe the oil you know the haircut will put him over the edge maybe it was always the hair

00:43:48.840 we'll find out in the polling in the next few months that's all it was all this time was his

00:43:53.020 hair i i don't know but uh and surely is saying yeah there we go you know 2013 when oil was over

00:44:00.100 100 the pump barely went over a dollar yes surely that's what i was talking earlier about though

00:44:04.640 look at what the Canadian dollar was worth at that time, because that makes a huge difference

00:44:09.320 in it. And I don't think it was $100 a barrel in 2013, 2014, though I could stand to be corrected.

00:44:15.100 The big spike was more 2006, 2007. I think we were more into the $80 level at best after that

00:44:20.120 for a while until about recently. Things that people shouldn't forget as well, of course,

00:44:25.080 when oil was down to $10 a barrel not too long ago, nobody was crying any tears for the oil

00:44:29.200 companies, you know, laying off, cutting capital spending and contracting. So, I mean, we got to

00:44:34.900 remember there's ups and downs, but it's good to see. It was a good tip out of Dan and some people

00:44:39.860 pointing out UFA apparently is really cutting their prices. The more that do it, again, it'll

00:44:46.360 spread across the line. And yeah, we don't want to see government getting in. We don't want to

00:44:50.300 see them jumping in. We don't want to see them legislating prices. That's the step towards

00:44:53.720 nationalization, guys, and that's dangerous. So it was good. As Dan said, you know, shame these

00:44:58.380 guys, make sure they know it when they're screwing us like that so that they can correct

00:45:02.460 it before, uh, you know, people like Notley can get in there and do it the way they would.

00:45:07.260 And, uh, um, let's see here.

00:45:10.340 So let's see some other questions.

00:45:11.560 Uh, Ken Smith saying, how does it work when Danielle wins the, well, when, if I'm going

00:45:16.140 to correct you, Ken, you said when, but if Danielle wins the leadership, cause it's far

00:45:19.460 from done and, uh, and she isn't a sitting MLA.

00:45:22.660 I believe she still could serve as a premier from up in the, I could be corrected on that, 0.80

00:45:29.540 but I'm pretty sure she would still be the premier. She just doesn't have a seat and she 1.00

00:45:32.060 would manage cabinet and she would, but she wouldn't have a seat in there. She wouldn't 1.00

00:45:35.960 be answering questions directly until she gets a seat in those situations. Well, we're six months

00:45:41.220 away from a general election. I don't know if they would try and invoke a by-election fast

00:45:44.640 to get her in there quickly, you know, get somebody to step aside in a safe seat. That's 1.00

00:45:48.620 happened a lot of times you know you it's ugly uh the politics that happen usually a person gets

00:45:53.220 cut a good deal a soft landing a good government appointment or something like that and say you

00:45:57.960 know make room here we need to get the leader in uh that happened way back with don getty if you

00:46:02.740 remember uh that was a real embarrassment he lost his own seat and uh he was the the the premier so

00:46:10.280 they actually had somebody step aside i think it was stetler in a safe seat and they pumped a whole

00:46:14.280 pile of money and built him a hospital and everything there to make sure and he won that

00:46:17.100 seat and got back in, but there's ways. And she, you know, so if she was the one who wins, then 0.97

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00:47:38.220 okay so let's see uh uh justin tremblay saying i i think the purpose of the pope's visit

00:47:44.960 was to gaslight the public enough so that when the truth does come out people have made up their

00:47:48.300 minds on who's at fault regardless of the facts yeah i don't know i mean i i think the the catholic

00:47:53.860 church would rather this behind him i mean they were cornered they'd rather not be in this whole

00:47:58.080 thing i'm sure he would have rather hung out in europe so i don't know if they're tied in on it

00:48:02.320 but i'm certain there's a lot of people when i'm talking about the language being used and everything

00:48:05.520 yeah they do want it hyped up enough they want to create a deep enough mythology a deep enough

00:48:10.020 basis on things that it just can't be countered down the road no matter how many facts come out

00:48:14.700 because there's a lot of people doing really really well out of this and it's unfortunate

00:48:19.040 hey i don't begrudge people doing well i just don't like it when it's disingenuous

00:48:22.340 uh sylvia asking um why is the debate between smith gene and tase when lowen had a higher

00:48:29.820 percent than tase i i didn't select who goes in the debate and i don't know what the percentage

00:48:34.820 is which poll you're referring to, Sylvia.

00:48:40.140 And again, I'm sorry, it's out of my wheelhouse.

00:48:43.480 But those were the presumed three front runners.

00:48:45.800 Problem was, is trying to hold these debates. 0.85

00:48:48.140 We don't have so many resources.

00:48:49.200 When you have seven people, it just can be tough.

00:48:51.480 I mean, you think of it,

00:48:52.800 if you give a three-minute opening to seven candidates,

00:48:56.320 just in the openings and with some gaps in between them,

00:48:58.740 you're looking at half an hour in a debate,

00:49:00.960 just in the opening statements.

00:49:02.180 and then, you know, you give them two minutes and you're close to another 20 minutes at the end

00:49:06.660 and, oh, wait a minute, okay, so Sylvia's saying the Western Standard poll, oh, you're talking

00:49:11.660 just a digital poll that was held on the website? Well, I mean, that's a poll of our readers, but

00:49:17.440 it's kind of like me with my Twitter polls. I mean, if I did a Twitter poll, I mean, I'd probably

00:49:22.000 find one that's far and ahead, but it doesn't necessarily reflect all the members, so I don't

00:49:25.240 think it was based on just the Western Standard web poll, and I'm pretty sure we didn't commission

00:49:28.580 a full poll. So I'm thinking maybe it was based on, on, um, main street and that, but again,

00:49:33.720 I'm not a hundred percent sure. Uh, and Sylvia St. Taze had 4%. Yeah, that must've been a digital

00:49:39.000 poll, Sylvia. And Hey, I'm not taking sides, but I'll tell you what, there's no way that Travis

00:49:43.680 Taze is only at 4.4% when it's among members all the way around. I don't know where he's sitting,

00:49:48.820 but that's way, way too low for him. And, uh, Todd, well, he's, he's doing a really good job

00:49:53.440 and I'm not sure where he's sitting, but either way, we based it on a different poll and it's,

00:49:58.220 it's tough, but I mean, we just want to have an efficient, good event with, with the ones that

00:50:01.540 are there and do what we can. And it's hard to, uh, hard to make everybody happy all the time.

00:50:05.640 So we don't try. We try to make as many happy as we possibly can and, uh, just cover as much

00:50:10.580 as we possibly can. And there will be party official debates where you will get to see all

00:50:14.960 seven and then see how that goes. I believe the first one's in medicine hat and it's not too long

00:50:18.400 from now at all. All right, let's bring in, uh, Matthew Horwood. He's our Ottawa parliamentary

00:50:23.600 bureau chief. He was out there, uh, dealing with the protests all weekend. How's it going, Matthew?

00:50:28.220 Pretty good. How about you, Corey?

00:50:30.160 I'm all right. Like I said, it's been kind of a weird Monday for us,

00:50:32.980 but we're getting through and so far so good. We're still on the air.

00:50:37.500 Yeah. Yeah. I haven't gotten taken down yet. Always a good sign,

00:50:40.480 but it has been a pretty crazy Monday and a crazy weekend for Ottawa residents.

00:50:43.660 Once again, to the dismay of many, there was another freedom protest going on.

00:50:48.260 It was quite interesting.

00:50:50.180 Yeah. So, I mean, how did that go? I mean,

00:50:52.180 one of the things I was kind of looking for and it's sort of trying, I guess,

00:50:55.840 to protest in favor or in support of the Dutch farmers,

00:50:59.200 but it looked like a lot of people were there

00:51:01.060 for a number of causes and things.

00:51:02.660 We didn't see any of the tractors and stuff

00:51:04.200 that we've seen in the Netherlands

00:51:05.960 and things like that, though.

00:51:06.800 We didn't see farm equipment, eh?

00:51:09.380 Exactly, Corey.

00:51:10.100 There were no farm equipment that came.

00:51:12.380 Now, that doesn't mean that there weren't farmers

00:51:14.140 that were protesting across Canada.

00:51:15.960 We saw in Edmonton there were a lot of tractors

00:51:19.100 and other farm equipment that went on the highways,

00:51:20.940 but Ottawa Police Service a day before

00:51:24.280 said that tractors can't go on 417 and 416 highways unless that's the quickest way to get

00:51:31.000 to their farms, which in this case is obviously not true. So we didn't see any farm equipment.

00:51:36.280 We saw about 100 vehicles roll out and do a slow roll on the main Ottawa highway in support of the

00:51:42.920 Dutch farmers. In case the viewers don't know, they've been protesting for about a month now

00:51:49.180 um against incoming environmental regulations uh the government wants to reduce nitrogen

00:51:54.300 oxide and ammonia emissions by 50 percent by 2030 which would just decimate the country's

00:51:59.500 agricultural industry and a day before this protest in ottawa it was announced that the

00:52:04.300 canadian government is going to have a 30 reduction in farming emissions um reducing

00:52:09.580 nitrogen oxide from fertilizer so the same deal it's going to hurt farmers it's going to reduce

00:52:14.380 the food supply and so i i think it seemed like what they were protesting for was very legitimate

00:52:19.980 but you know you got no tractors you got the same people that have been protesting for uh

00:52:25.580 you know five different events about things other than farming and then the message gets sort of

00:52:30.780 muddied and you get people with different agendas coming and uh the whole thing uh you know if you

00:52:36.780 were not a resident it probably wasn't very clear that it was about the farmers protest in netherlands

00:52:41.580 it was probably you were just thinking oh it's these guys again these hooligans coming by to

00:52:45.740 wave canadian flags and honk and cause a ruckus yeah and i mean i wouldn't want to and i know

00:52:50.860 you're you're paraphrasing the ottawa citizens but i mean and i wouldn't want to dismiss them all as

00:52:54.780 the hooligans but there's some truth to that i mean we see that in alberta protests too there's

00:52:57.980 some people they just come out to everyone and they've got some legitimate concerns but

00:53:02.220 uh their prompting is just whatever's kind of got them upset that they'll be out there and and uh

00:53:06.860 You know, they're mostly upset about the past mandates and things like that.

00:53:11.020 But do you think, I mean, they got some messaging out, though, you know, because this is a concern.

00:53:17.120 I mean, it seems to be under the radar.

00:53:18.700 Well, that whole Dutch thing was under the radar. 0.58

00:53:20.160 And even the Canadian one, this was just last week.

00:53:22.380 But we're just not seeing a lot of traction on that issue.

00:53:25.280 Absolutely.

00:53:25.820 We haven't seen a whole lot of talk in the mainstream about this yet.

00:53:28.900 But I think that we're going to start seeing that as the economic issues get worse with inflation and supply chains.

00:53:35.260 And, you know, we're already having huge agricultural issues like Canadian farmers have also complained about, you know, 35% tariffs on Russian fertilizer imports, these vaccine mandates for truck drivers that are still making it difficult to transport goods to the US, a lot of farming issues for sure.

00:53:53.540 And I think that now the organizers of this convoy, this, you know, slow roll, they said that this was a practice run for future protests for farmers.

00:54:02.120 And I do believe that we're going to see much bigger ones happening because while this movement was, you know, made by or this protest was by Freedom Fighters Canada.

00:54:10.960 And it sort of, as I said, the message got muddied.

00:54:13.720 i think a lot of these farmers are going to be coming back and they're going to be very upset

00:54:17.400 with uh the federal government um you know impacting their livelihoods and making it more

00:54:22.920 difficult for them to survive as independent farmers yeah and i mean well right now the

00:54:27.960 agreement in ottawa i guess is 30 but it's still aspirational they haven't come around with the

00:54:32.040 policy on how they're going to reduce the 30 i mean we know from this government's record

00:54:35.880 they rarely come in in a nuanced way i mean what it's telling you is they've got plans for taxes

00:54:40.360 or bans or quotas or or something but uh you know as you said it's a practice run but maybe it'll

00:54:47.240 really happen when it really starts hitting i mean when the farmers actually get nailed with attacks

00:54:51.800 i mean they're on a tight margin they can only take their tractor out so far but uh if they're

00:54:56.360 really starting to get an economic kick we're going to see them saying okay that's it we got

00:54:59.480 to get out and do something absolutely cory and the thing is too that i don't believe the ottawa

00:55:04.040 police service will be able to keep the tractors out of the downtown i mean we saw this weekend

00:55:08.360 the ottawa police blocked off the off-ramps so that the convoy couldn't get downtown they so

00:55:14.120 they basically made traffic problems worse for all of ottawa and then at three o'clock they lifted

00:55:18.680 that they let the off-ramps be opened up and then the convoy ended up downtown anyways so we had

00:55:23.720 about a couple dozen vehicles you know join up with the protesters in front of the dutch embassy

00:55:28.360 and start honking and do a little mini occupation of the city so if a bunch of tractors want to get

00:55:33.080 downtown and voice their concerns i don't believe that you know a bunch of police vehicles are going

00:55:37.720 going to be able to stop them. So we'll see whether the federal government keeps that in mind when

00:55:41.560 they're planning this policy around a reduction of emissions, whether they're going to keep in

00:55:46.340 mind that there's going to be, you know, another occupation potentially. Yeah, well, and that's

00:55:51.900 something that has to be kept in mind too, is right now our farmers are really busy. I mean,

00:55:55.080 it's the peak growing season. Sure, they're not seeding, but harvest is around the corner. They're

00:55:58.940 spraying, they're doing other things. They're always busy. Once the snow flies, though, I mean,

00:56:02.980 a lot of them, unless they're running livestock, can find themselves with more spare time on their

00:56:07.680 hands anyways and if they're going to get up and protest i think it would probably be post-harvest

00:56:11.820 uh so i mean as you said these warning shots ottawa might want to take care here because uh

00:56:18.100 they might feel a little more inspired coming in exactly true i better hope that the gas prices

00:56:23.420 are too high that the trackers aren't able to maintain themselves for for weeks on end and go

00:56:28.600 downtown because otherwise they're i'm fairly certain they're going to show up and they're

00:56:32.100 going to make themselves heard oh i wish that wasn't so accurate on your part uh so i mean

00:56:37.640 going beyond that. So, you know, what top stories have you been working on lately down there in

00:56:42.060 Ottawa? Well, as I said, it's been quite a busy day. Today we have Commissioner Brenda Lukey and

00:56:48.140 Public Safety Minister Bill Blair testifying on the firearms case. This whole controversy that

00:56:55.320 happened with the federal government apparently asking for details on the firearms used in the

00:57:01.080 shooting out in Nova Scotia to be used in impending gun legislation. Now, Bill Blair and

00:57:07.120 both uh both bill blair and brenda luke lucky are saying that they did not um ask about that

00:57:14.160 uh they did not um but it seems like they're sort of contradicting each other and now we're seeing

00:57:20.960 just now that uh commanding officer lee bergerman is contradicting what they said and saying that

00:57:26.320 blair did pressure lucky to disclose the caliber make and models of these firearms

00:57:31.120 So clearly somebody's lying. I'll let you, Corey, say who you think that is, but I think the truth

00:57:40.000 is going to come out very soon. I really hope it does because the level of this scandal, again,

00:57:46.000 the things that just are dominating our news and the things that aren't, and even when this first

00:57:50.320 broke, none of people realize if indeed this is what's happened, and fair enough, maybe these

00:57:56.400 officers are lying about that pressure and things but if this was happening and if this was actually

00:58:01.280 pressure from the prime minister's office this is the sort of thing that takes governments down

00:58:05.280 in normal countries and here in canada barely made the headlines for two days absolutely you

00:58:10.160 would think it would be the end of trudeau's government but we've seen there's been enough

00:58:13.120 scandals that he is scraped by on and his supporters seem to essentially ignore and

00:58:18.320 not be too bothered by it so uh i i do think the truth is going to come out and we'll see if that

00:58:23.520 makes a difference around election time again uh but once again there's been so many of these i

00:58:27.920 think it just sort of you tune them out eventually it's just to be expected and it's not you know

00:58:33.040 something absolutely horrifying that that would be would be killer but but you would think it

00:58:38.960 would be enough but we'll see yeah i'm not sure what it would take anymore maybe you know some

00:58:43.520 candid video of justin with a goat or something but i mean yeah we would hope it would go down

00:58:48.720 to a legislative thing but as you said the truth might be coming out soon um looking farther down

00:58:53.280 there's going to be the hearings I guess starting and they're going to live stream it in September,

00:58:57.600 I think after the Labor Day weekend when they start into the inquiry about the Emergencies Act.

00:59:02.560 Have you seen much discussion in preparation of that or anything?

00:59:05.600 I've seen a little bit of discussion. I know it's going to be live streamed for all to see

00:59:12.080 and they've been talking about who is going to be able to get funding

00:59:16.560 in order to participate in it but I haven't seen a whole lot of details yet. I mean,

00:59:21.280 I mean, again, it's a ways away.

00:59:23.480 We'll have to see what is talked about.

00:59:26.280 But I'm sure it's going to be very, very interesting.

00:59:28.220 And I will, of course, be on the scene to report live from it as I can

00:59:31.440 and give all the details and get the inside scoop if I can.

00:59:34.460 Yeah, well, it's summer.

00:59:35.400 It's the political doldrums, I know.

00:59:37.320 But things are getting lined up.

00:59:38.920 So I'm just checking in on these things.

00:59:40.840 As well, Tamara Leach is still a citizen of your city for a little while longer.

00:59:45.640 I guess that hearing is going on today, another one. 0.54

00:59:47.760 But it doesn't sound like she's getting out anytime soon.

00:59:49.540 she's not getting out anytime soon no there's a lot of rehashing of the same arguments we've seen

00:59:54.020 going over you know what happened during the freedom convoy what happened during that meeting

00:59:58.340 where she uh shook hands with one of the other freedom convoy organizers but nothing really

01:00:03.700 uh juicy has happened thus far i will be doing a story on it but we're not getting yeah she's

01:00:07.860 not getting out today it's not looking like the needle is being moved in in any way yeah also what

01:00:13.700 we've got going on tomorrow is the justice center for constitutional freedoms they have a lawsuit

01:00:18.180 against ontario's vaccine passports that's going to court so i will be uh covering that it should

01:00:22.820 be a very interesting live stream we'll see we'll see what happens as i always say yeah yeah and uh

01:00:29.940 i know you'll be watching that the jccf had a i believe a recent victory too with uh

01:00:34.340 i think it was a firefighter who got a settlement or somebody that or was it a nurse but the the

01:00:39.220 vaccine uh passport was uh determined or at least the the firing wasn't uh justified boy if i can

01:00:45.220 I can remember which case.

01:00:46.360 Yeah, I believe it was firefighters

01:00:47.480 and they got a multi-million dollar handout

01:00:49.340 because of that.

01:00:52.260 Yeah, well, it's, you know,

01:00:53.840 the pandemic took two years

01:00:54.860 and I think it's going to take five years

01:00:55.980 before we sift through all of the consequences

01:00:57.940 and things that happened throughout it.

01:00:59.700 So I guess it gives us lots to cover and watch.

01:01:02.760 Yeah, yeah.

01:01:04.060 Almost too much to cover at this point.

01:01:06.200 All right.

01:01:06.780 Well, I'll let you get back at it.

01:01:08.520 I appreciate you checking in with us today

01:01:09.960 and getting out on the ground

01:01:10.860 to see what was happening at those protests.

01:01:12.900 And we'll talk again soon, I'm sure.

01:01:15.220 Sounds good. Thanks, Corey. Always a pleasure.

01:01:17.040 Hey, thanks, Matthew.

01:01:18.340 So that was our Matthew Horwood, Parliamentary Bureau Chief.

01:01:21.340 And yes, he does all things Ottawa.

01:01:23.200 Out there on the ground looking at things and covering those protests.

01:01:26.680 He was live tweeting a lot of them, by the way.

01:01:28.160 Look him up on Twitter.

01:01:29.560 He was putting out videos and pictures of the things happening and going on down there.

01:01:33.800 The protests just don't seem to stop, but they also seem to be a little subdued.

01:01:37.220 I mean, it's big issues, but they aren't grabbing the general public interest quite that much yet.

01:01:44.160 We'll see.

01:01:44.620 as I said, I think the winter, we might see things changing dramatically. Costs are going to be going

01:01:48.960 up. Energy costs are going up. Farmers are going to see that looming tax. I got a feeling that we're

01:01:54.040 going to be some very restless people coming in once the snow starts flying this year. Maybe enjoy

01:01:59.060 the calm summer while you can. Let's look at the comment scroll there. Wildrow saying, can the

01:02:03.740 provinces just refuse Ottawa's dictation? That's kind of some of the questions going on, I guess,

01:02:08.840 that some of the discussions with the UCP candidates and whether or not the province has

01:02:13.280 the ability to refuse to do things that Ottawa pushes or the legalities. And, you know, there's

01:02:18.580 some strong opinions and theories on both sides of it. So I'm not sure that that's what a lot of

01:02:23.960 this campaign is riding on. Smith is talking about some very solid, you know, almost trying to invoke

01:02:29.180 a constitutional crisis. Others are saying that that won't work and that a calmer approach should

01:02:35.620 be taken or a more passive one, but still pushing back. I think at least one thing almost every

01:02:41.140 candidate realizes is that Albertans are sick and tired of Ottawa in general. And, you know,

01:02:48.060 realize that it's a big point that we've got to push back against them and protect ourselves from

01:02:52.780 them. So we'll watch that campaign. I mean, I've never seen a leadership debate. I shouldn't say

01:02:59.080 debate, but campaign where every candidate is that focused on regionalism. I mean, it is a top issue

01:03:04.960 right now. They definitely feel it. They know that this is where tensions are. I think they also

01:03:11.080 know and realize that we're going to have events coming in the future with Ottawa that are going

01:03:16.620 to prompt some battles. So they got to figure out how they're going to deal with it. I just got an

01:03:21.560 update from our newsroom, and this is awful sounding, but this just broke in Langley, BC.

01:03:28.340 So as I mentioned earlier, and Dave said at the start of the show, there were some shootings going

01:03:32.160 on in BC and things. I guess it was two homeless people shot to death and a third was wounded

01:03:38.020 and the police killed the gunman.

01:03:41.180 So, I mean, of all, the only cold comfort in that update 0.77

01:03:45.320 is, you know, that at least the lunatic is dead,

01:03:49.400 but it looks like others got killed and injured.

01:03:51.980 So people don't have to be afraid,

01:03:54.300 but they got to figure out what's going on.

01:03:55.740 And boy, that's, I don't care, people, I really don't.

01:03:59.380 It's hard, it's hard reading news all the time.

01:04:02.940 You know, I was kind of whining at Jane

01:04:04.440 about that the other day.

01:04:05.560 I mean, that's what I do.

01:04:06.580 I've got to keep up on things.

01:04:07.720 I got to be able to comment on things all the time.

01:04:09.300 I read all the columns.

01:04:10.160 I, you know, half of my day, my evenings, I mean, I'm always reading news.

01:04:13.680 I'm reading international news.

01:04:14.720 I'm reading local news.

01:04:15.620 And the exhaustion you start getting, so much negative stuff,

01:04:19.040 so much shootings and so much abuse.

01:04:21.840 People wonder why I'm sour and angry and cranky all the time.

01:04:24.420 Well, I don't see a lot of good stuff.

01:04:26.240 I know there's a lot of good stuff happening out there in the world, guys.

01:04:28.760 I do.

01:04:29.620 But, you know, it's hard not to get brought down when you hear of some, 1.00

01:04:31.700 some asshole going out and shooting homeless people. 1.00

01:04:34.840 I mean, they're already obviously down on their luck as far as it goes. 1.00

01:04:38.040 And then police had to kill the person.

01:04:41.100 So either way, that's that update.

01:04:43.580 And at least in Langley, people can kind of relax a little bit

01:04:46.660 if you're from out that way.

01:04:48.140 The live shooting situation is done.

01:04:50.800 And I guess now it's just trying to figure out just what happened

01:04:53.040 and try and prevent it.

01:04:57.420 I don't know how you can prevent those sorts of things.

01:04:59.380 But all right. 0.72

01:05:01.940 Somebody's saying, let's see, Bev says Smith is a traitor. 0.81

01:05:04.840 Yeah, okay. I've said before too, I mean, that's the biggest handicap that Danielle is going to

01:05:11.600 have. And I imagine what you're relating to isn't so much the sovereignty thing, but the

01:05:14.980 floor crossing with the Wildrose and this, it's been her biggest handicap. I think she has to 0.97

01:05:21.020 convince members that she wouldn't do an impulsive move like that, that she's learned from it. I

01:05:25.840 think she's been candid about it. She's never failed to address it or apologize. But the

01:05:30.120 question is whether or not people believe her. And I don't know. I don't know that that's what

01:05:34.200 we're going to see in the case of this race, you know, it's one member, one vote. They're going to

01:05:37.640 be out there and that's where you can render judgment, vote for or against her or, or any of

01:05:42.080 the other, um, uh, candidates out there. Sylvia saying, when does the House of Commons come back

01:05:46.600 from summer break? That's a good question. I'm going to guess mid-September, but I could be

01:05:52.040 dead wrong. Uh, I would just suggest, you know, looking it up online. I'm afraid I don't have it

01:05:56.120 on hand, but, uh, they might not be in a hurry to get in as well. Uh, Jet Gorgon, play Scrabble.

01:06:03.100 What? Oh, yeah. So I see what you're saying just for things rather than looking at the news all

01:06:07.700 the time. Yeah, I'm just whining about it. It's my job, whatever. Just once in a while,

01:06:11.660 it just gets a little tiresome. Just when you hear of something so thoughtless, so awful,

01:06:16.420 why would you go out and shoot homeless people? I just don't get it. I guess I should be thankful

01:06:23.060 that I don't get it. Oh, and I see Marilyn Walls there. She's posted a link, by the way. Thank 1.00

01:06:27.640 you, Marilyn, to our comments. And there's the sitting calendar so you can see. I believe that

01:06:31.840 calendar is really good too. It'll show committees and things like that. There's a lot of things that

01:06:35.000 don't just happen in the, you know, the house of common sittings and question period. The committees

01:06:38.820 are where a lot of things happen and people don't notice as well. Um, so yeah, but this race is 1.00

01:06:45.160 going to be a, uh, a big one, you know, I mean, it's, it's running for, um, premier and that's

01:06:52.600 what kind of surprised me too. I mean, I, I was kind of surprised that seven of them made the bar

01:06:57.320 of 175,000 each, you know, not to undercut their efforts or anything, but that's a lot of money to

01:07:01.720 come up with. And a lot of signatures, it's a high bar. And it was still, I was about to say,

01:07:10.580 you know, it still kept seven people coming in. Let's see. Bev says, you support her because

01:07:16.580 she worked for the Western Standard. I didn't say I support her, Bev. I just speak my mind on things

01:07:21.800 and everything. And Danielle did some shows for us for a short period of time, but that really

01:07:25.580 doesn't have anything to do with where we're standing on this race. But, you know, if that's

01:07:30.320 what you feel, so be it. But no. Yeah, here's another one Sineco bringing up. The Wildrose

01:07:37.800 Independence Party board needs to be removed. That hornet's nest is still going on. I should update

01:07:42.240 their stories on the Western Standard about this. So from what I got was they had about 400 people

01:07:48.180 show up for their AGM and Red Deer on Saturday. And so there was their board had removed

01:07:53.220 Paul Hinman as their leader. And the members didn't agree. It sounds really bizarre. I'm

01:08:02.040 looking forward to getting more accounts out of it. So basically the members revolted on the board

01:08:07.540 at the AGM. There were about 400 of them there. It got to a point where they wouldn't allow a

01:08:13.060 change to the agenda. They didn't want to allow Paul to speak. Their interim leader wasn't even

01:08:16.700 there, the one that the board appointed. Paul waited in the lobby until hoping to be invited

01:08:22.340 to come in and speak for himself. He came in after lunch, I believe it was. Now I could be

01:08:27.800 corrected in some of this. He came into a loud standing ovation and applause. The board called

01:08:33.600 security to have Paul thrown out. That's how badly the board didn't want him in there. And when

01:08:38.940 security showed up, I guess 50 members stood in the front and blocked security and said, no,

01:08:42.920 you're not getting him. And I'm sure the hotel security said, oh God, we're not getting in the

01:08:45.540 middle of this. And they left. So then the board stamped their feet and stormed out of the room.

01:08:50.080 and that was what they considered the end of the meeting.

01:08:52.980 The hundreds of members who remained said to hell with it

01:08:55.540 and elected a new board, reinstated Paul as the leader.

01:08:58.620 But they're still battling because, I guess, you know,

01:09:01.740 the board still has the access to the email.

01:09:03.560 So they've been sending emails saying it's not,

01:09:05.260 it's unfortunate.

01:09:06.000 They're ripping themselves to pieces.

01:09:07.760 But what I don't get is why are they so eager?

01:09:12.820 I just smell another agenda going on.

01:09:15.560 This was a coup.

01:09:16.880 If Paul had really done things wrong and it's possible,

01:09:19.080 I don't know.

01:09:20.080 you had an AGM coming up right away. They had the opportunity literally to be right in front of the

01:09:25.100 members and say, look, we're going to read this out. This is the things the leader did wrong.

01:09:28.720 We want the people in this room right now to vote and say, will we accept this from him or not?

01:09:33.300 But instead they did the opposite. They kicked him out without consulting the members.

01:09:38.540 And they literally tried to bar him from even going to the AGM with security. Why? Why? And then

01:09:47.300 And I mean, in my view, the members always win in the end.

01:09:50.320 And I'm seeing a couple of dozen people at tops

01:09:53.220 who have this problem with Paul.

01:09:54.440 And I'm seeing hundreds and hundreds of members

01:09:55.580 who don't seem to.

01:09:56.800 But maybe I'm reading it wrong.

01:09:57.840 I don't know.

01:09:58.220 I'm not a party member.

01:09:59.620 But there was just a weird meeting on the weekend.

01:10:02.000 And I think Derek was tweeting about it.

01:10:03.860 You know, this is probably something

01:10:04.880 we might see in the courts.

01:10:06.560 I'll probably be talking to Paul about it soon,

01:10:07.960 get his side for what I can.

01:10:09.900 I tried to have one of their board members on,

01:10:12.500 Northy that time, back when things were brewing up.

01:10:14.740 But he wouldn't answer any questions very easily.

01:10:16.800 I mean, I tried and it didn't go well.

01:10:19.620 But either way, I mean, this is one thing that keeps the UCP happy because, I mean, if the Wilder's Independence Party is too busy all fighting with each other, when we get a general election six months away, there's no way they're going to be ready to fight that election come that time.

01:10:32.600 So if you're worried about vote splitting on the right, it's going to be very unlikely.

01:10:37.820 But we'll see what they can resolve.

01:10:39.540 They don't have, you know, times ticking.

01:10:41.200 And if you can't reach your members, you know, so if you've got this new board and new leader,

01:10:45.580 but they have no email address for the members, they don't have access to the website. I don't

01:10:49.060 know. And the bank accounts, I don't know. It's a mess. It's really a mess. But I tend to when I

01:10:57.040 see somebody saying we shouldn't let the members choose in an open setting, I tend to sets off

01:11:01.540 alarm bells with me. Why? Why? Why can't if you've got such a solid case to make, why couldn't you

01:11:05.940 make it in front of the members. And then they left rather than address it once the members stood

01:11:11.380 up and said, no, we want to let Paul speak. So yeah, we'll see what happens there. As I said,

01:11:17.920 it makes it all the more important on what's going on. As I said, seven people came in. And

01:11:21.920 as I spoke with Reid out in BC, now we've got the NDP there, Horgan stepped down. So the winner of

01:11:31.020 that race will instantly be the premier of BC.

01:11:33.580 So you'd think we'd have a pile of people rushing in for that job, right?

01:11:37.080 Just like in Alberta for the UCP.

01:11:40.080 And their bar was something low, like 25,000 or something to run.

01:11:43.160 Not much.

01:11:44.220 They got one candidate so far.

01:11:45.880 That's it.

01:11:46.640 One candidate.

01:11:48.480 It might be an acclimation.

01:11:50.120 I'm trying to find, I might be speaking with somebody from BC pretty soon on that one

01:11:55.060 to follow up a little more because it's just kind of strange.

01:11:57.140 You think there'd be quite a rush.

01:11:58.340 Everybody wants to, well, every politician with ambition at that level wants to be the premier, you would think, right?

01:12:05.660 That's why you're climbing that political scrotum pole to try and get up there to the top seat on it.

01:12:10.660 And here we are with a whole bunch of people in BC and only one person in the whole province wants to run for the NDP leadership out there.

01:12:17.260 Kind of odd.

01:12:20.020 And Wildrose saying, yeah, what happened to the Wildrose AGM?

01:12:22.340 Yeah, Wildrose, I just offered what I'd heard

01:12:24.460 and that's going off of tweet accounts

01:12:27.480 from people who've been there apparently

01:12:28.780 and things like that.

01:12:30.480 I'm not a hundred percent sure.

01:12:32.060 So I mean, I will be talking to Paul soon

01:12:34.360 and we'll see what else we can try and find out

01:12:36.060 about what's going on there.

01:12:36.820 Cause it is a registered party in Alberta

01:12:38.260 and they shouldn't be dismissed.

01:12:41.180 You know, 11% in the by-election,

01:12:43.280 people say, well, that's so small.

01:12:44.200 Well, that's still significant actually.

01:12:46.140 It's higher than pretty much any other contenders,

01:12:48.840 you know, for the most part.

01:12:50.000 So Sarah's saying, is the leadership race closed in BC?

01:12:54.220 Can people still join?

01:12:55.060 I think they still can, Sarah.

01:12:56.200 I think the cutoff when I spoke to Reid

01:12:57.760 was another couple of weeks away or something like that.

01:13:02.460 Let's see, government, I've got to get through some news stories here.

01:13:06.080 Passport office and a briefing note says it knew a year ago

01:13:08.620 there was going to be passport problems.

01:13:10.960 Welcome to the government, right?

01:13:12.400 I mean, the passport's a mess right now.

01:13:15.200 It's backed up, backlogged, as is immigration processing the whole works.

01:13:18.780 And these things don't shock.

01:13:19.900 Everybody saw it coming.

01:13:20.800 Everybody knew except government. 0.92

01:13:22.320 Only government can be so incompetent.

01:13:25.180 And this is when I keep pulling that full circle.

01:13:27.720 You know why people, they want to see things nationalized.

01:13:29.960 They want to see government having more reach and spread.

01:13:31.680 Have a look at what they manage.

01:13:33.400 This is why I don't like a government monopoly in health care.

01:13:35.660 And that's what they have. 0.95

01:13:37.040 That's why health care is failing. 0.93

01:13:38.180 It is.

01:13:38.640 It's failing all over.

01:13:39.620 People are dying.

01:13:41.200 It's the government's running it.

01:13:42.660 God, these guys can't tie their shoes.

01:13:44.680 I mean, inflation.

01:13:46.120 And that's when I was talking to Dan McTeague.

01:13:47.860 And I like doing my I told you so as I was putting tweets out and talking to the Taxpayers Federation a year and a half ago saying, yeah, we're going to see some mass inflation and interest rate hikes because of the path the government's going.

01:13:58.180 Apparently, the government are the only ones who didn't know it.

01:14:00.720 The only ones who didn't see it coming.

01:14:03.460 Oh, wow.

01:14:04.060 We didn't know that would happen.

01:14:05.100 Oh, come on.

01:14:05.720 Every economics 101 book would have told you that's what's going to happen.

01:14:10.040 But our government can't figure it out.

01:14:12.880 Let's see.

01:14:13.580 Cabinet after five.

01:14:14.760 Here's again.

01:14:15.500 Government.

01:14:15.860 it out. After five years, it says it's no closer to finalizing the refit of a decrepit heritage

01:14:20.840 building. It already cost $10 million. So this is the American embassy, the former American embassy.

01:14:25.480 I guess it's across the street from Parliament Hill. And they were going to retrofit it to make

01:14:31.680 it a symbol of indigenous reconciliation, whatever that might mean. I guess we can't define it because

01:14:35.460 these idiots can't figure out how they're going to define it either. So it's that empty since 1.00

01:14:40.040 1999. So cabinet purchased it for four and a half million. So let's be fair here. This is over the

01:14:45.560 course of multiple governments, Harper was a part of this idiotic mess as well. And they poured 1.00

01:14:50.480 another 5 million in since then, I guess, on maintenance and repairs, and they had flooring.

01:14:55.340 And still, they're not sure what the heck it's going to be. In 2017, Trudeau announced it's

01:15:00.180 going to be an indigenous people's space. But five years later, and these clowns haven't figured out 1.00

01:15:08.140 what they're going to do. What they do know is they can spend a lot of money thinking about it. 0.98

01:15:11.960 here's an odd story a chess playing robot broke a boy's finger during a match in russia in russia

01:15:19.760 last week uh this is the president of the moscow chess federation you know it used to be like big

01:15:24.280 blue and all that that was the big thing humans versus uh computers and so on and the computers

01:15:28.860 eventually just started winning there's only so much we can do but now they got robots i guess

01:15:33.400 that are physical and i guess maybe they've gotten artificial intelligence to the point where they

01:15:36.940 can get upset and attack their opponents or something. I don't know. We're just an oddball

01:15:43.020 story. So press things. Sergei Lazarev said the incident occurred at the Moscow Chess Open

01:15:50.640 after the boy rushed to the robot. So I don't know, it was a self-defense thing. I mean,

01:15:54.740 these robots are pretty well trained. And a robot broke a child's finger. This is, of course, bad.

01:16:00.560 So Lazarev does realize that this is, of course, bad. I'm glad they figured that out. They say it

01:16:06.220 was rented. And, uh, and, uh, so now they're going to blame whoever they rented it from,

01:16:09.820 but either way, strange stories. Uh, here's another one, you know, police officers. Here's

01:16:15.620 one shot a man's pet snake in Pennsylvania. Some idiot, uh, owned a, uh, 15 foot long Python. 1.00

01:16:23.860 It was wrapped around his neck. Police got there just in time. I guess, uh, let's see. Somebody 1.00

01:16:29.940 must've called, obviously. Uh, he suffered cardiac arrest, but they managed to bring him around.

01:16:34.940 yeah it was at least 15 feet in length and they shot it uh i guess they're lucky he's able to

01:16:40.760 shoot this thing when it's wrapped around him too why do people own those things i mean i don't know

01:16:45.380 i don't have a big beef with snakes you know when i used to work in the south run across the

01:16:49.620 rattlers at least they give you lots of warning you know the copperheads have blended and they

01:16:52.720 could be of concern cotton mouth the same thing they'd open that big ugly mouth and let you know

01:16:56.380 when you're in the area of louisiana and that say hey stay the hell away and uh you stay away 0.91

01:17:01.780 I don't have a beef with them. I'm one of those who feel you've got to shoot them on sight or 0.98

01:17:05.920 anything. But at the same time, like Wildrose is saying, they're not pets. No, they're gross.

01:17:09.800 And especially when they get to that size, holy cow, 15-foot snake. And obviously, you know,

01:17:16.220 snakes, they're even worse than cats. I mean, we know most cats would kill you and eat you if they

01:17:21.040 were given half a chance. That's most cats. Well, all snakes would kill you and eat you if they were

01:17:27.700 given half a chance. They don't care about you. You can't pet a snake. They don't have affection.

01:17:33.440 They're not companions. It's just keeping a living creature. I mean, I keep honeybees, you know,

01:17:38.780 those aren't exactly companionship either, but I'm under no illusions. I'm there to, because they're

01:17:43.720 good for the flowers. I enjoy the hobby and we'll hopefully get some honey out of it. But you know,

01:17:48.180 if I want to go beaten on the top of the nest, wearing nothing but a speedo, I'm probably going

01:17:51.740 to get stung from head to toe, and that will be my own fault. Either way, interesting world,

01:17:59.140 isn't it? Here's something with a release too. Police sing now. Yeah, because the Calgary police

01:18:03.520 did a big crackdown on the transit system just before the stampede. Not a real shocker. Look,

01:18:09.700 and it worked out. I remember talking to other staff members the day of the parade when we came

01:18:14.300 down to downtown because I rode the train rather than couldn't get downtown any other way. Boy,

01:18:18.500 There was security everywhere and the stations were clean and the trains were nice and everything.

01:18:24.460 But that's because they really cracked down.

01:18:26.560 And now they say they understand that people don't feel safe at train stations.

01:18:30.300 Well, yeah, I know.

01:18:32.000 We've been kind of saying that for a year and a half.

01:18:36.100 But fair enough.

01:18:37.140 I mean, the police are busy enough and they're, you know, they don't ride trains necessarily.

01:18:42.060 They're going to the police station and digging vehicles.

01:18:44.880 That's the thing I keep screaming to people.

01:18:46.060 You don't know how bad it really is in those trains.

01:18:48.500 until you ride them. I think every city councillor should be back and forth on those

01:18:52.580 trains over and over again, including the mayor. Maybe they'll get a better idea, you know,

01:18:55.880 pan her in her bowl. Oh, God. Get out there. Come on. I dare you. Go on. Ride it back and 0.92

01:19:01.680 forth a bit. Sit there in that smell of piss and have those junkies running around screaming 0.99

01:19:04.980 and tell me it feels safe for people. The police figured it out anyways. Here's some interesting 0.98

01:19:09.800 things. They executed 327 warrants. So there were a whole bunch of people who already had

01:19:14.860 has criminal histories that were on the trains. I think I'm guessing that was probably part of the

01:19:20.000 reason they were able to remove them quickly enough because, you know, a ticket might not

01:19:24.160 be enough, but okay, you've got a warrant. Let's pull you into holding a serve 216 summons, same

01:19:29.440 thing. And I recovered three stolen bikes. And Jane was noting that only three. I mean, come on,

01:19:35.260 you see those guys riding around, you know, damn well, most of them didn't buy those things.

01:19:39.080 But they seized 30,000 worth of drugs,

01:19:42.120 crack, fentanyl, methamphetamine,

01:19:44.280 gavapentin, and ketamine.

01:19:46.960 And they didn't lay any charges

01:19:48.160 for simple drug possession.

01:19:49.240 Yeah, there's not much point

01:19:49.880 with the ones that are just possessing.

01:19:50.900 But either way, it worked.

01:19:52.660 It worked.

01:19:53.120 It was a lot of work,

01:19:54.340 but it worked.

01:19:55.860 And they're going to do it again this fall.

01:19:57.800 And we're going to have to do it more and regularly.

01:19:59.720 And I still think the first step

01:20:00.780 is just set it up.

01:20:01.740 Even if it's just a booth

01:20:02.560 with a person standing there

01:20:03.560 with a phone scanning tickets,

01:20:04.700 but for crying out loud,

01:20:05.920 just charge people.

01:20:06.940 As soon as they have to pay for a ticket,

01:20:08.240 it's amazing how much better the clientele on transit becomes.

01:20:11.300 But this honor system doesn't work.

01:20:14.380 Come on, the junkies didn't buy a ticket.

01:20:16.640 The guy with the two bikes, why does he need two?

01:20:19.540 Maybe he stole one.

01:20:21.380 Think about that, guys.

01:20:23.500 The guy with two bikes didn't buy a ticket.

01:20:25.840 You know, the guy with the shopping cart, the rest of them.

01:20:28.600 Keep them off.

01:20:29.400 You got a good step one right off the bat.

01:20:30.980 I know there's bigger problems with the homeless people

01:20:32.840 and the addicts and the rest after that.

01:20:34.840 I'm just talking about one place they don't belong.

01:20:36.660 That's on our transit system.

01:20:38.240 Wilder's saying, did I hear anything about the RCMP busting guns and drugs in Swan Hills? No,

01:20:42.440 I'm not familiar with that one, I'm afraid. There's just a lot happening. I'll have a look

01:20:46.280 for it later. This is something that happened in Calgary. The Peace Bridge, you know, the

01:20:51.920 Finger Trap Bridge in North Calgary, that red and white thing that we spent, that Calatrava Bridge

01:20:56.780 cost $50 million or something like that. It's got all those glass panels in it. Well, somebody went

01:21:01.580 and smashed 80% of the glass panels out of it late, late Saturday night, early Sunday morning.

01:21:07.520 Those things cost like $12,000 a panel

01:21:09.560 or something to replace, a glass.

01:21:11.740 So this is going to cost a fortune.

01:21:13.960 And they say every year they've got to replace

01:21:15.540 a couple dozen of these things

01:21:16.980 because people vandalize them.

01:21:18.240 I think some of them gets broken by weather

01:21:20.480 when it expands and contracts too,

01:21:21.940 though they don't like to admit it.

01:21:24.260 I don't know.

01:21:25.240 I mean, I don't like the bridge.

01:21:26.320 I think it was a waste of money,

01:21:27.300 but going out with a hammer

01:21:28.280 and as it apparently happened,

01:21:29.960 smashing it, well, look, the city bought it,

01:21:31.560 so you're stuck with it.

01:21:32.280 There's no sense spending more money

01:21:33.240 smashing it up, guys.

01:21:34.160 It's not a good way to protest.

01:21:36.060 I would suspect once they find out who this man is,

01:21:39.980 they'll dismiss it because they'll say it was a vulnerable person.

01:21:43.260 You know, let's get back to that, right?

01:21:44.780 This accommodating of people, vulnerable people,

01:21:48.080 which is another word for addicts, homeless people.

01:21:50.500 I mean, it's the reality.

01:21:51.500 Why don't we sugarcoat things all the time?

01:21:54.520 Vulnerable people.

01:21:55.200 Well, there was the big display, again,

01:21:57.140 for the anomalies found at the Kamloops residential school site.

01:22:01.280 In the city of Calgary, somebody put a whole big display of teddy bears

01:22:03.980 and shoes and symbols of things

01:22:06.400 from the residential schools out there.

01:22:08.180 I don't know if it's still there.

01:22:09.160 I haven't been to City Hall in a while,

01:22:10.100 but they had it all kind of fenced around.

01:22:11.260 The reason they fenced it

01:22:11.860 was because somebody came twice and lit it on fire.

01:22:14.020 And of course, everybody is screaming,

01:22:15.520 Notley and the mayor, 0.95

01:22:16.520 and oh, it's white supremacists. 0.93

01:22:17.960 They're definitely doing it. 0.96

01:22:18.920 They're vandalizing this.

01:22:19.980 They want to light it on fire and everything.

01:22:21.360 And then it turns out,

01:22:22.560 yeah, it was a vulnerable person.

01:22:25.060 And actually the rumor is

01:22:25.860 it was a First Nations vulnerable person

01:22:27.340 lighting it on fire.

01:22:28.380 So then everything just kind of went quiet.

01:22:29.860 They just put a fence up.

01:22:31.260 Forgot it.

01:22:31.740 uh the vulnerable people can be dangerous and damaging at times too guys just because they're

01:22:37.000 vulnerable you know when we change the terminology speaking of things this is the opposite thing is

01:22:42.920 what i'm talking about when we exaggerate things with language such as calling residential school

01:22:48.580 situation a genocide when it wasn't we sugarcoat other ones rather than tell them what they are

01:22:54.720 and that doesn't help you keep calling them vulnerable people why they're addicts they're

01:23:01.200 addicts and there are people with mental health issues. I'm not saying it to stigmatize him,

01:23:05.320 but let's talk about what it is because it's a better way to find a solution. 0.93

01:23:09.080 When you give this Disney sugarcoating crap and say vulnerable people, you're talking around the 0.85

01:23:14.200 issue. You're skirting it. As I said, you're doing the opposite of the ones who want to call every 0.99

01:23:18.400 person who attended a school a victim or want to call a non-genocide a genocide. So vulnerable

01:23:25.460 people, that's not the right way to do it. And there's a great, you know, from, I'm forgetting

01:23:31.980 his name, George Carlin, one of the greatest comedians that ever lived. He most definitely

01:23:35.780 was. He's certainly no card right winger, but he could observe things and cut through them

01:23:40.820 with some fantastic monologues. And one he talked about, one that he went on for a long time, and he

01:23:46.400 went through the whole history of how in World War I, you know, you used to have these men who

01:23:50.560 would end up in mental institutions and disturbed and problems. And it was shell-shocked. So the

01:23:56.200 term then was shell-shocked, you know? See, the way he describes it, he says, it sounds like guns

01:24:00.180 almost, you know, two hard words. And then after that, they changed it to battle fatigue and all

01:24:07.820 these different terms that they changed it to all the way through till today. And it's some, you

01:24:11.440 know, post-traumatic stress disorder. This is now a simple term that used to be, you know, three

01:24:15.620 syllables, two syllables is this big long term. And he says, you know, maybe if they just stuck

01:24:22.740 to shell shock in the first place, what it was about, the guys that need it today would actually

01:24:27.320 be getting the help because there's a whole lot of veterans who have a hell of a hard time coming

01:24:30.420 back. But when we cover everything in long flowery terms, rather than just saying stuff where it is,

01:24:36.020 we actually dodged the solution on a sticky issue we didn't want to talk about.

01:24:39.680 Language is important, guys. It's very important. Yeah, it seems to be a theme today,

01:24:43.980 But we use language to sugarcoat some things

01:24:47.700 and we use them to exaggerate other things. 0.91

01:24:49.200 And all I want is the freaking truth.

01:24:51.740 So yeah, I'm not going to talk about vulnerable people 0.63

01:24:54.540 except when I talk about it in the ironic sense

01:24:56.320 like I did now.

01:24:57.960 And I mean, I've had many shows.

01:24:59.100 I'm very sympathetic to people in states of addiction

01:25:01.140 and with mental health issues.

01:25:02.760 But sitting and talking in circles around it

01:25:05.080 isn't going to help them.

01:25:06.760 Another story.

01:25:07.580 So yeah, it's coming up.

01:25:08.300 And this is something we've had as an ongoing theme too.

01:25:10.100 I asked every provincial candidate about it.

01:25:12.020 They all talk in circles about what they're going to do.

01:25:13.580 but the police have been increasingly been used as ambulances because we don't have any ambulances.

01:25:18.080 They're all sitting around. The attendants are in the hospitals because they can't get

01:25:21.100 union staff to sign off and take their patients off their hands at the hospitals. So now police

01:25:25.600 are rushing people to hospital because they know that they'll be waiting too long for ambulances.

01:25:29.980 You keep hearing, again, the UCP says, oh, we're going to take a four-month study to figure this

01:25:34.540 out. We've been talking about for years, you guys, enough excuses. No wonder you got people pissed

01:25:39.360 off. But you're going to take four months. We know the problem. And then some of us are,

01:25:46.920 oh, we're going to bring 20 more ambulances online soon. Oh, so what? So that's 20 more

01:25:51.000 sitting around hospital hallways. Address the issue. You know what? You've got a problem in

01:25:55.640 the hospital, not on the street with the ambulances. Don't allow me. Bottom line is,

01:25:59.800 come in, put a stamp on it, hand the form to the nurse and leave. Let them get out and be

01:26:03.800 ambulance attendants. If the hospital's overloaded, well then fine. Let's get the doctors and nurses

01:26:07.700 at the hospital to tell us how to fix that.

01:26:09.700 But right now, if anything, we're enabling them

01:26:12.220 by letting them use paramedics for hallway care.

01:26:16.100 And now it's trickling down the line

01:26:17.280 that our police officers are working

01:26:19.100 as ambulance attendants.

01:26:20.660 And that's great when you got the armed robber

01:26:22.720 in your place.

01:26:23.300 Yes, the police will be 40 minutes.

01:26:24.540 They're taking somebody to the hospital right now. 0.99

01:26:26.780 Let's get our shit together, guys. 0.99

01:26:28.640 Come on. 0.99

01:26:31.180 Yeah, and Gondek, she's speaking up

01:26:33.100 on the situation of an urgent care center

01:26:35.140 in Airdrie being shut down on weekends and evenings.

01:26:37.700 because they don't have any doctors and again that gets back to this the system is broken 0.65

01:26:42.340 the canadian healthcare system sucks i'm going to keep going on about that too and it is it 0.99

01:26:47.220 sucks by every measure for the value we're getting dollar for service is crap and there's many many 0.99

01:26:53.860 better models around the world until people realize that i don't know what it'll take 0.99

01:26:56.980 how many closed centers how many late hospital uh arrivals how many people dying waiting for

01:27:01.300 ambulances how many people dying in hallways and gurneys the system's failing in fact it's failed

01:27:06.180 we're shutting things down

01:27:08.640 but the only solution that's allowed by the NDP

01:27:10.800 is to pour more money into it

01:27:12.700 and the UCP is to talk about it

01:27:14.740 because they're still too scared 0.99

01:27:15.960 chicken shit to say let's take on the system 0.99

01:27:18.260 let's take on the system 1.00

01:27:19.740 oh private care so what

01:27:21.600 I don't care if it's private or public

01:27:23.020 I just want my care

01:27:23.740 I don't care about the American system

01:27:25.820 I'll just get that out in the way

01:27:26.860 because somebody's going to say American

01:27:27.700 I don't care

01:27:28.180 dozens and dozens of European systems

01:27:30.380 better than ours

01:27:30.980 and they use a lot more private capacity than us

01:27:34.840 all right boy I was really ranty today got that off my chest thank you for listening me

01:27:40.000 today guys it's very therapeutic for me and uh I'm feeling better now for it I don't cry

01:27:45.640 don't care for it I rant I get it out and I feel really good after a good rant

01:27:50.080 so tomorrow another good show I got Jaime Rubenstein on he's been on before he's an

01:27:54.600 anthropologist he's uh from Manitoba at the university out there and yes we are going to

01:27:59.300 talk about residential schools and the Pope's visit. As well, I'm going to have Mike Thomas

01:28:04.400 on. He'll be in studio. He's come on before. He writes a lot of columns for the Western Standard

01:28:08.800 and he's always got good stuff, particularly about some of these. Hey, not everybody's having

01:28:13.040 the hard times. There's some houses out there worth some crazy amount of dollars. We'll talk

01:28:16.940 a little bit about that plus some other stories while we're at it. So thank you all for tuning

01:28:20.820 in today, guys. I appreciate it and I will see you all again tomorrow at 11 30 a.m. sharp.

01:28:29.300 We'll be right back.

Western Standard - July 26, 2022

TRIGGERED： There Was No Genocide In Canada

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