Western Standard - Triggered： Weekend protests were amazingly well controlled but mainstream media weren’t.

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00:00:30.000 good morning it's january 31st 2022 welcome to triggered i'm cory morgan into january already

00:00:42.340 this winter actually i don't know about you guys it's blasting by for me and that's just fine

00:00:46.160 because i got no use for winter this show is going to be coming to you live every day typically at

00:00:51.320 11 30 a.m mountain standard time monday to friday but after last weekend's uh you know craze protests

00:00:58.480 and events. I shouldn't say crazy. They were very well controlled. Actually, we'll go into that.

00:01:02.100 There's just so much to go into. I had to start 10 minutes early to get all these guests in here

00:01:06.100 today and cover it all. So kind of a special start time today at 1120. I hope most people

00:01:12.140 tuned in and caught this early and then others can always review it later. It's available

00:01:15.700 on audio and video for later watching. So this being live though, comments are welcome. It's

00:01:21.760 one of the great things about being live. Tell us what we can do better, what we've been doing

00:01:25.360 terribly, that's fine. And what you want to see, just keep it simple there in the comment

00:01:29.500 scroll and we can all have a good time together covering these issues. And I got a few guests

00:01:33.560 today to cover. Jay Hill is going to come back because I just had him briefly last week at the

00:01:37.100 end of the week, but he was a member of parliament for a long time. And I really want a perspective

00:01:41.240 from somebody who was in parliament to talk about, you know, a lot of things that somebody

00:01:45.240 from Ottawa can cover with this protest. I mean, everything from the local congestion

00:01:49.240 to layout of the land or other protests that he's witnessed up there in the past, because we're really

00:01:53.120 into some unique times right now. And then I'm going to have Brett Wilson. People should

00:01:58.060 certain remember him from the Dragon's Den and lots of other media appearances and things such

00:02:03.440 as that. He's going to come on and discuss a reward he is offering for the identity of a person

00:02:08.480 with a Nazi flag at the protests. Yes, him and True North Center and Western Standard are all

00:02:13.900 chipping in to actually find the identity of this clown who was wandering around in the background 0.96

00:02:17.960 with a Nazi flag. So that'll be a really good conversation. And Brett's always very outspoken 0.91

00:02:22.880 on issues in general, so that'll be a really good chat. And after that, I'm going to talk to John

00:02:26.760 Carpe. We've had him on. He's from the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms, and he's going

00:02:30.380 to discuss the legal challenge they got going to Alberta's traffic courts. You won't have the right

00:02:35.200 to fight tickets in court any longer if the government gets their way, as insane as it sounds.

00:02:40.720 And John will be going into why he's pushing back on that and why it's ridiculous. So let's start

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00:04:05.360 The sound issue seems to have been rectified. You know, if the sound goes off or anything,

00:04:08.460 yeah, by all means, fire us a comment and we'll fix that up. Nico's in here.

00:04:12.180 And yeah, just sorry. It was feedback coming on my end. But again, these are the joys of a live

00:04:16.520 show having things go you know it has it's good and it's bad okay i can't start the show without

00:04:22.840 talking about the incredible peaceful and effective protests held by the truckers for freedom convoy in

00:04:27.720 ottawa over the weekend thousands and thousands of protesters descended upon ottawa for two days

00:04:32.680 and got their message out with no violence no property damage and nor no arrests not one this

00:04:38.680 is almost unheard of when such a large gathering of upset people gather and it never happens when

00:04:44.280 you see progressive protests. The messaging was positive, as was the general atmosphere and

00:04:49.800 attitude. Thousands of Canadian flags were waved and the anthem was sung with pride.

00:04:54.200 To listen to Canada's established media though, you would think you just witnessed the most

00:04:58.600 disturbing and dangerous protests in Canadian history. The effort that the mainstream media

00:05:02.920 went to in order to portray the protests in a negative light were just galling. I don't expect

00:05:07.640 much of the tax-funded dying media institutions in Canada anyway, but they still managed to surprise

00:05:12.040 me with how horrific and slanted they were last weekend. Because yes, I was stuck in the West and

00:05:17.460 I went back and forth watching Western Standard coverage and mainstream coverage and I was just

00:05:20.840 mortified sitting at home all weekend watching this because I do want to keep up with things.

00:05:24.820 I wouldn't expect the media to be supportive of a demonstration challenging the very establishment

00:05:28.600 that served them so well, but I'd hope to see at least a glimmer of journalistic principles,

00:05:33.160 you know, driving them to be at least a little bit fair. Well, those hopes were dashed. So I want

00:05:37.660 to highlight some of the negative things that the media focused on much of that media tax funded by

00:05:42.260 the way then highlight the positive things that were ignored so right off the beginning uh nico

00:05:49.120 can pull up a confederate flag picture this surfaced this went everywhere and of course i was 0.96

00:05:54.060 watching saturday morning right at the beginning this fool walked around and into the crowd carrying 0.83

00:05:57.900 that confederate flag every media outlet eagerly covered it every reporter went wild on twitter 0.96

00:06:02.900 with it they felt justified it was an attitude you know of you see you see it's a movement of 0.95

00:06:07.300 racist rednecks. Yes, they felt that was it. Look, I've been to many protests and having members of 0.98

00:06:13.040 the lunatic fringe show up is inevitable. You can't control it. And all you can do is try to

00:06:17.880 limit it. This was one flag out of thousands. It was hardly representative of the crowd. But again,

00:06:23.840 the media didn't want to project that message. What the media, mainstream media didn't report on

00:06:28.460 was that the crowd, there was a video that went out of the crowd chasing that clown with the

00:06:34.280 confederate flag from their midst uh nico's gonna play that video and you can see this guy they got 0.75

00:06:39.180 rid of him uh now he's going now he's gone we called him out he knows he's gonna hold his head

00:06:57.500 in shame now you see opponents to freedom and that's who they are the ones who oppose these

00:07:03.820 these rallies. Want to, I mean, Trudeau, oh, that imbecile, on his scathing thing, trying to paint 1.00

00:07:10.200 this as all being racist and rednecks, he used things like that Confederate flag as an excuse 1.00

00:07:13.440 for it. But none of them will be honest. None of them will talk and say, look at that. There's a 0.86

00:07:17.400 video out there showing, because they're saying, no, nobody stopped him. Yes, they did. They did.

00:07:22.100 And when you guys say nobody stopped him, you're not just, you're lying. That's not right what

00:07:25.040 you're doing. You're lying. The media is lying. Trudeau is lying. The group stood up and pushed

00:07:30.340 that moron out of there. Sure, there's a few morons around, but they didn't have any of it. 1.00

00:07:34.640 But the media, did they touch that? Of course not. No. So why overlook that? Next. Oh, this is where 1.00

00:07:39.820 we came up next. The media was appalled because some protesters had hung a flag and a sign upon

00:07:44.740 the Terry Fox statue. They called it a desecration. They were outraged. You know, they never bothered

00:07:51.940 to mention the adornments were removed within minutes. They neglected to point out that the

00:07:56.060 same statue had been decorated with a rainbow flag by a liberal campaigner. I don't see hanging

00:08:01.060 things from statues as being terribly respectful, but it's hardly a capital crime. I mean, no harm

00:08:06.120 was done to the statue, and the demonstrators even gathered here. Here's another video that

00:08:10.260 the media seems to have forgotten to play. They gathered around and scrubbed it down because they

00:08:15.040 saw that people were kind of disgusted with that. Fair enough. And make sure that everybody saw this

00:08:19.540 statue is even cleaner than before the protests began. So check this video out because the media

00:08:23.980 I'll never show it to you.

00:08:30.700 Let's see the CBC show this.

00:08:46.660 Yeah, I'd just like the commenter there.

00:08:48.200 Let's see the CBC show this.

00:08:49.280 Of course they won't.

00:08:49.980 The CBC is in Trudeau's pocket.

00:08:52.180 That's the reality of a state broadcaster.

00:08:53.980 That's the reality when you get $1.5 billion from the taxpayers a year to project the government's message. 0.96

00:09:00.860 It's ridiculous. 0.79

00:09:01.920 Now, here's a picture of what a true statute of desecration looks like when it's done by true violent and extreme protesters. 0.95

00:09:09.140 Here, have a look at this here.

00:09:11.840 There we go.

00:09:12.620 Torn off the wall, covered in spray paint, intolerant racist messages on the back saying,

00:09:18.320 go home, you know, to immigrants, and flags and spray paint draped over it.

00:09:23.860 You know, we saw less reaction over this statue desecration 0.96

00:09:27.520 than what was going on with a flag and a sign being hung on a Terry Fox one.

00:09:33.420 We've really got a problem of priorities.

00:09:35.820 But no, it's not a problem of priorities.

00:09:37.100 That's the bottom line.

00:09:37.860 There is a media agenda, and it's sick, and it's wrong,

00:09:40.420 and we've got to call it out.

00:09:42.280 And then the media.

00:09:43.040 Here's the next one.

00:09:43.660 They gleefully jumped on Edmonton MP Michael Cooper

00:09:46.660 because some nut waved a flag with a hand-drawn swastika on it behind him

00:09:51.140 during an interview.

00:09:52.680 and you'll see this here and as you can see the headline yeah he's under fire for a photo of him

00:09:58.560 near a flag bearing a Nazi symbol and unless Cooper has eyes in the back of his head how the

00:10:06.040 hell was he supposed to know what was back there if we got that picture there you can see where

00:10:09.200 the original with the flag behind him either way the flag was being waved behind him while there

00:10:14.900 was an interview there was just no way for him to possibly see it so what do you think but what

00:10:20.940 What's the legacy media say? Well, doesn't matter. They charged, tried, and found Cooper guilty.

00:10:25.640 They're demanding apologies. They're saying he's in league with Nazis. Come on. This is an outrage.

00:10:31.000 People should be outraged on a number of things right now, one of which is how the media has been

00:10:34.600 treating this event on the weekend. It's disgusting. And the CBC, yes, the state broadcaster, Hannah

00:10:39.400 Thibodeau, thought she'd found a travesty when she tweeted a picture of trash bags. Yes, a picture of

00:10:45.600 trash bags in Ottawa. Now, have a look at that. Wow. This is all over downtown, she says. Yeah,

00:10:51.920 a line of neatly stacked trash bags after thousands of demonstrators have been there

00:10:56.340 is apparently scandalous. Media never showed the video of the protesters volunteering to pick up

00:11:01.180 the trash, of course. No, not at all. So check this video out. This is the one the mainstream

00:11:04.840 doesn't show you.

00:11:15.600 Well done

00:11:17.600 oh

00:11:29.600 oh

00:11:43.840 guys

00:11:59.600 look at that how often do you see that at a protest with over 10 maybe 20 000 people

00:12:10.180 picking up after themselves hell it was probably cleaner when they were done than before they began

00:12:15.520 but did they get credit no you got the cbc showing a picture of trash bags making it out

00:12:20.460 as if they made a mess these are the most respectful protesters we've seen in canadian history

00:12:25.500 and the media is giving the complete opposite reflection of that and it's bs and they've got

00:12:30.460 to be called out on and that's what i'm doing now we did have one thing that even bugged me some 0.99

00:12:34.180 idiots some losers did a dance on the tomb of the unknown soldier two of them parked down on the 1.00

00:12:39.060 steps coming up to it uh what wasn't reported though was it was only a handful of these goofballs 1.00

00:12:44.820 it wasn't at the main protest and that's part of why i want to talk to a member of parliament as

00:12:49.700 well if people don't know their way around ottawa that stuff's all close together but that wasn't

00:12:52.940 way they were protesting. This was off to the side because I got a feeling other demonstrators would

00:12:56.380 have slapped these guys in a line pretty quickly if they'd been around. And it was disrespectful

00:13:00.840 and it was wrong. But what the media is also not reporting is those demonstrators, the ones now,

00:13:06.160 are guarding. They got volunteers guarding the memorial to make sure no other idiots do anything 1.00

00:13:10.520 as stupid as that. Not to mention those ones dancing on that memorial were all wrapped in, 1.00

00:13:14.540 of all things, Quebec flags. Boy, you know, usually the media, if they're on about flags,

00:13:19.940 Well, why aren't they saying it's part of a Quebec nationalist movement?

00:13:23.100 Well, we can't talk about Quebec that way, can we?

00:13:26.120 Now, finally, a true Nazi flag was spotted within the pictures.

00:13:29.940 Nobody has a picture within the protests, nor does anybody know who was actually waving it.

00:13:36.500 It's been, of course, widely reported.

00:13:38.680 I'm going to be talking more about that with Brett Wilson,

00:13:40.680 because him and the Western Standard and True North Centre are offering a combined reward of $5,000 for the identity of this lone apparent Nazi.

00:13:49.440 Look, nobody reasonable is supporting the extremists.

00:13:53.140 That can be seen clearly when the gross filter of the mainstream media bias is removed from the coverage.

00:13:57.980 These protests are making history and making change in a number of ways.

00:14:01.800 The exposure of the mainstream media as being an irreparably sick institution, though,

00:14:05.300 is not the least of those accomplishments, and I'm glad people are seeing that.

00:14:08.540 So thank you guys. I can see a lot tuning in today,

00:14:10.660 and we've had record numbers going on with the Western Standard 0.97

00:14:13.300 because we have been covering it without going into that kind of crap. 0.95

00:14:16.600 we've been giving you real news and uh alternative media is clearly the way to go we're seeing a sick

00:14:21.080 and dying institution so let's bring a real news man in now to talk about the top stories that are

00:14:25.720 going on in canada dave nailer hey dave how you doing i'm doing well cory i got to admit i watched

00:14:32.280 some of that uh mainstream stuff on the weekend i just i got so angry i wanted to throw my remote

00:14:38.200 through the tv was it was it was ridiculous absolutely ridiculous the the fear and loathing 0.70

00:14:43.960 that they were trying to create yeah i know and as you can see you know the vein in my head's

00:14:48.840 pulsing as usual it does every morning but even more so after the weekend today so thank you all

00:14:53.080 for bearing with me this is therapeutic for me yeah and uh the day started with a with a pretty

00:15:00.360 emotional press conference from the prime minister in which he just he just ripped into the protesters

00:15:06.360 left right and center basically called them uh racist fear mongers and says normal canadians

00:15:12.760 will not, you know, will not be cowered.

00:15:15.280 We will not cower in fear, you know, in the face of all this racism. 0.99

00:15:20.560 It's ridiculous. 0.92

00:15:21.920 I mean, anyways, the story's there. 0.70

00:15:26.200 All our readers can go and check out what our fearless leader is saying.

00:15:30.420 Also interesting this morning, Corey is an Ottawa councillor

00:15:33.900 by the name of Matthew Fleury, has ordered city solicitors in Ottawa

00:15:38.940 to see if they can't freeze that GoFundMe that the truckers have going.

00:15:43.740 That's raised $9 million as of this morning.

00:15:47.400 The Ottawa Councillor says it's not fair for the citizens of our nation's capital

00:15:52.380 for their taxpayers to have to cover the cost of this event.

00:15:56.240 And it is an expensive thing.

00:15:57.700 It's costing more than $800,000 a day to police it.

00:16:03.760 And this Ottawa Councillor wants the GoFundMe frozen to pay for it.

00:16:08.940 uh closer to home uh lethbridge uh ndpm la shannon phillips uh has a message to uh elon musk

00:16:18.540 the world's richest man if you remember musk uh last friday tweeted his support of the truckers

00:16:25.340 well uh shannon phillips has uh not liked that and she has basically uh told told must to go

00:16:32.620 forth and multiply with themselves so if anybody can do it i'm sure elon musk can uh and if you

00:16:39.820 think the truckers are angry now corey we may not have seen anything yet uh the provincial sorry the

00:16:45.820 federal transport minister uh on the weekend saying that uh the locals are working together

00:16:51.900 to get a inter-provincial vaccine ban going so you want to drive your truck from alberta to bc

00:16:59.100 you're going to have to be vaccinated so uh canadian truckers who weren't too happy about

00:17:03.740 being able to get across the u.s border core you're going to be apoplectic about uh about

00:17:10.620 that plan uh and i should have mentioned earlier that trudeau held his press conference uh despite

00:17:16.700 confirming he had covet this morning uh he got it off one of his kids apparently and he's feeling

00:17:22.540 okay and is is going to work from home uh we just don't know where that home is because he had to

00:17:27.820 to flee Ottawa on the weekend in case he might come face-to-face with a protester.

00:17:34.540 And, yeah, he just couldn't be having that.

00:17:37.480 No, well, and fair enough, and God knows I am no supporter of Prime Minister Ding Dong

00:17:42.780 by any stretch of the imagination, but it is important to keep the Prime Minister safe

00:17:47.180 in circumstances.

00:17:48.540 Nobody quite knew what was going to happen before the weekend.

00:17:51.000 I think most of us realized and thought it was going to be a peaceful and sane affair,

00:17:54.380 But I think it's prudent to make sure that the prime minister is somewhere away from the action for that. 0.95

00:17:59.960 Though he hid out for the entirety of the weekend to come out with the vitriol and crap that he spewed today, you know, is something else. 0.92

00:18:07.240 Again, I don't expect him to go walking among them. 0.96

00:18:09.040 But boy, talk about disrespectful to a large segment of the citizens.

00:18:12.860 And it seems like we've now got some action going on down at the border with Coutts.

00:18:17.920 We're getting reports of a large convoy of RCMP vehicles, including SWAT vehicles and command vehicles headed south towards the border from Lethbridge and apparently tow trucks with them.

00:18:32.540 So what's happening down there, we'll be keeping tabs on.

00:18:37.540 Our male resident is on that and we'll keep you up to date through the afternoon, Corey.

00:18:44.560 Great. Thanks, Dave.

00:18:45.460 Yeah, we'll watch that as it's breaking.

00:18:47.080 we've been covering that left bridge crossing it's kind of been overshadowed by everything in

00:18:50.360 ottawa over the weekend but this is big i mean they've blocked the border for uh almost two days

00:18:54.840 now and and uh it i really want this to end well i hope they kind of give some ground because i

00:19:00.200 nobody wants to see you know the rcmp having to intervene i mean they're making a a good protest

00:19:04.440 and a good point but there's got to be some some flex i think yeah our our james finkbeiner was

00:19:10.040 down there on the weekend and uh he was chatting with some some ranchers who say well if the rcmp

00:19:15.000 move in i'm going to let my cattle loose on the highway uh so tensions are tensions are hot down

00:19:21.080 there there's no doubt about that and the uh you know the truckers say they could be there for weeks

00:19:26.280 but that is a crucial crucial uh entry point for alberta uh the premier jason kenney has called

00:19:33.160 for the uh the blockade to end uh you know i don't know how the rcmp are going to end it without the

00:19:38.840 cooperation i mean these big giant rigs are you know strewn across the highway they're not that

00:19:44.520 easy to move uh so uh and apparently we're hearing reports that some of the local tow truck drivers

00:19:50.600 are refusing to join the rcmp and they're not going to they're not going to tow any vehicles so

00:19:55.880 it's going to be an interesting intense few hours ahead down at the border it's certainly

00:20:00.280 well thanks for checking in dave and uh yes to everybody watching you know always keep an eye

00:20:04.200 on westernstandardonline.com we put it out as it breaks and we've had people down there we had

00:20:09.560 James Finkbeiner down there. So yeah, I'll check in if anything breaks later, Dave, and otherwise

00:20:15.180 I'll see you after the show. Thanks, Corey. But yeah, you know, we got a lot of situations

00:20:20.640 happening all over the place and we can't forget about that one on the southern border. And I

00:20:23.860 really want it to end well. I'm getting a little concerned about it. Like a different line has

00:20:27.640 crossed when you block an international border. And I know you're trying to make a break, you

00:20:32.220 know, make a point, but you know, you're going to upset a lot of the members of the public and

00:20:36.960 you're causing an international challenge. I'm not sure if this is the best strategy. Hopefully

00:20:41.880 some calm minds can prevail. The other ones are blocking Parliament. Who really cares? Those guys

00:20:46.280 weren't going to do anything good anyways. We're not losing anything for slowing down the activities

00:20:50.880 of Parliament. But the border is another issue. So we'll be watching that closely. Hopefully it

00:20:54.860 comes to a good end. Before I get to my next guest who spent a lot of time in Parliament, and that's

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00:22:07.540 here. Hey, Jay, how are you doing? Just great this morning. How are you? Very good. I mean,

00:22:14.440 you know, I'm all wound up as usual, but that's what I do. That's why the show is called Triggered.

00:22:18.060 If you ever saw me here all subdued, you know, we got to wonder if Derek put something in my

00:22:21.420 coffee or something, but so far so good. Well, I'd probably think maybe you were like the prime

00:22:26.260 minister. You came down with COVID for goodness sake. Yeah, no, not yet. So, I mean, we talked

00:22:32.620 briefly before the weekend and we were looking for, you know, we didn't know what was going to

00:22:36.580 happen. We've seen now, I mean, thousands and thousands of demonstrators in Ottawa,

00:22:42.120 they've choked up the streets, they're blasting their horns, they're holding fireworks, but still

00:22:45.980 it's been peaceful. There's been no arrests, there's been no property damage. I mean,

00:22:50.280 And it's been remarkably well-organized, I think.

00:22:54.880 Well, yes, it has.

00:22:56.940 And, you know, kudos to the organization.

00:23:00.800 And in particular, I want to praise my colleague Tamara Leash.

00:23:05.480 As you know, I've repeatedly said, as she has, that there's no direct link between Maverick Party and the convoy or the protest.

00:23:13.500 But we certainly support their right to peaceful and respectful.

00:23:20.280 protest on Parliament Hill and indeed across the land and we saw that this really struck a nerve

00:23:27.180 with Canadians from all walks of life when people turned out by the thousands along the route of the

00:23:33.860 convoy all the way from Vancouver to Ottawa and indeed even from eastern Canada to Ottawa to support

00:23:41.940 the truckers and those participating in the convoy with food and refreshment and fuel and you name

00:23:48.420 And, of course, the huge outpouring in support financially that the GoFundMe page has witnessed.

00:23:57.140 So even though Maverick Party is, as they say, repeatedly say, not directly linked, certainly because we believe so strongly in freedom, we do applaud the efforts of this group in bringing this attention onto the not only the national but the international stage, Corey.

00:24:14.660 So it's been quite an event.

00:24:17.280 It's unfortunate, of course, as these types of protests always seem to attract a few that want to use the efforts of the many to behave disrespectfully.

00:24:32.020 And we saw that at the war memorial in Ottawa.

00:24:34.740 We saw it with some flags.

00:24:36.700 We saw it, you know, the throwing of a beer can or pop can, whatever it was.

00:24:42.200 And, of course, the disrespect shown to Terry Fox's statue.

00:24:48.300 Obviously, I and I think every single Canadian, other than the few that did those types of things, would be uniform in condemning those types of actions, as have the organizers of the protests.

00:25:01.580 So I just think overall, when you attract that many thousands of people, by and large, this has gone very well.

00:25:12.760 And it's a real testament to the people involved.

00:25:19.000 And I might even add to the police and the security forces on Parliament Hill and in Ottawa, kudos to them as well.

00:25:28.140 I think everyone is doing the best they can

00:25:31.880 under the circumstances.

00:25:34.120 Yeah, well, and that's part of why I wanted to talk to you

00:25:36.400 is, you know, you spent a good number of years

00:25:38.640 working in Parliament in Ottawa,

00:25:40.300 and a lot of our listeners and viewers may not have.

00:25:42.620 And I want to get a bit of that perspective

00:25:44.520 because we have, it's ongoing, you know?

00:25:48.620 I mean, they're not leaving yet.

00:25:49.780 I mean, a lot of the people came out for just the weekend,

00:25:51.760 but now it's still choked up with trucks.

00:25:53.200 There's still guys staying, they're staying for the long run.

00:25:56.100 And they're certainly well-funded in order to do so.

00:25:59.700 You know, I made a joke about it being good with Parliament being shut down.

00:26:02.780 And actually, that's not so much of a joke.

00:26:04.400 I really do think we would do fine if they didn't do anything for a month.

00:26:08.060 But how problematic might this be, say, for the other related businesses or citizens or people in the area?

00:26:13.920 Again, it comes with living near a national capital.

00:26:19.940 But I don't think people understand just how dense it is down there and how much this protest is going to upset things.

00:26:26.100 Well, it's an interesting question.

00:26:28.940 And having lived and worked in Ottawa for 17 years, I can draw attention to the fact, obviously, that this is a very unique time, not only in the history of the nation and the world, but a unique time in the governing of Canada and, you know, downtown Ottawa.

00:26:47.240 My understanding is that the vast majority of government workers still are not working in their offices.

00:26:55.160 They are still working from home, as indeed are hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people across North America working from home.

00:27:04.960 So I don't know how disruptive this will be.

00:27:09.020 Under normal circumstances, of course, this would be preventing people from getting to work.

00:27:13.640 It would be causing a lot more disarray, if I can call it that, in government services.

00:27:20.000 But in this particular instance, I mean, I don't have a clear handle on it because it's never happened before.

00:27:26.980 Yeah, it was quite an irony, I guess, that the very restrictions and limitations that the people are protesting against with the pandemic are what are easing to a degree the impact.

00:27:37.020 I mean, Ottawa's learned how to operate at least to some degree without people being there in person.

00:27:42.020 So it changes the outlook on things.

00:27:44.200 Well, as has every business across the land, as I say, in the private sector as well.

00:27:49.660 I mean, there's been a huge adjustment to people working from home.

00:27:53.080 I just want to add at this point that it's more than a little bit ironic that the Prime Minister allegedly has contracted COVID.

00:28:02.900 He's triple vaccinated.

00:28:04.960 We all saw that because he proudly posts that.

00:28:08.100 So clearly, vaccination does not provide the ultimate protection from this virus, especially

00:28:15.680 this latest strain.

00:28:18.200 And so, as I said, it's a bit ironic that the Prime Minister himself is prevented from

00:28:24.600 meeting with the organizers of this protest and trying to settle their grievances, which

00:28:30.060 is his responsibility to do, I might add, as the leader of the country, because, you

00:28:38.100 While the rest of the world, certainly Europe, and indeed some of the provinces and premiers, are relaxing restrictions and mandates, he's intent upon imposing this new one at the international border, on the Canadian side, that is.

00:28:55.280 Obviously, truckers have to adhere to whatever mandates the American government brings in.

00:29:02.880 That's their right, and we'd never dispute that.

00:29:05.880 But when it comes to the freedom of Canadians, that's a whole different matter.

00:29:11.780 Well, that's it. I mean, responsible government should change policy when the circumstances change.

00:29:17.300 And I mean, perhaps they could be forgiven if they felt that vaccines were going to stop the transmission.

00:29:22.400 So in that case, it makes sense, perhaps, to have vaccine passports.

00:29:25.400 I don't want to start into the whole discussion of it or not.

00:29:27.140 But when we've gotten to the point where it's clear that it doesn't stop transmission,

00:29:30.680 then there really is no basis for this anymore for a lot of those restrictions you should adjust

00:29:37.280 the policies but they've dug in their heels and that there's where the problem comes and there's

00:29:41.340 where the standoff is i mean if they had clear evidence saying look this stops transmission

00:29:45.320 they would have a very strong case against the people protesting but they're not doing anything

00:29:50.760 on the transmission front so these passports these restrictions are pointless yet instead what does

00:29:56.020 It is, that's a good word for it, Corey, bizarre, that the government would take this approach and expect that Canadians, those vaccinated and unvaccinated, would support this position.

00:30:20.260 And then he throws fuel on the fire.

00:30:22.720 He did a news conference this morning, albeit briefly, and apparently, I didn't see it live, but I've heard that he was accusatory towards those politicians, he didn't name who they might be, that would utilize fear in this particular situation.

00:30:42.480 Well, I would allege, and I think a lot of Canadians would agree, that it's he himself, the Prime Minister of the country, for two years now, that has been using fear as a motivator to try and enforce the restrictions that he has deemed appropriate.

00:30:57.860 And, you know, he's crossed a line many, many times over the last two years.

00:31:03.740 And finally, I think this trucker convoy has been the flashpoint for Canadians to rise up and say enough, regardless whether you're like me, that have, you know, weighed the risks and become triple vaccinated myself,

00:31:20.180 or whether you have chosen to be unvaccinated which is a very small minority of people not only

00:31:26.180 involved in this protest but people in Canadian society so I don't think there's any dispute that

00:31:32.440 vaccines work they're historical you know we can get into all sorts of discussion whether these

00:31:38.340 particular vaccines how effective they are and whether they're going to work long term we all

00:31:44.020 hope that they will. But that's a different issue than the restriction on citizens' rights.

00:31:52.580 And that's what this is all about. Yeah, and that's the main issue is choice. That's what

00:31:57.240 we've got to get to. We can all debate for a long time about the efficacy and wisdom of getting

00:32:01.420 vaccines or not getting vaccines, and that's fine. I, again, feel that the vaccines do,

00:32:06.280 you know, reduce your chances of having a bad outcome if you get infected, and I've chosen to

00:32:11.140 But it has to be a choice. I can't say that enough times. And we're seeing the media and we're seeing Trudeau and we're seeing others trying to frame this protest as saying they're nothing but anti-vaccination people and not in the slightest. I mean, I'm supportive of this protest and I'm supportive of vaccines. I can walk and chew gum, even if our prime minister can't. And we can do both. It's about freedoms. And I'm getting tired of that narrative being hijacked like that. Why can't we have a rational debate on this?

00:32:37.480 And the names he brought up, yes, he brought up O'Toole, he called him right out, and he brought up Maxime Bernier.

00:32:43.360 So, I mean, this was supposed to be a statement on an issue, and he dove right in and politicized it.

00:32:47.760 I mean, yeah, I had the mispleasure of sitting in the newsroom and having to listen to that voice of his, if anything, to change him out.

00:32:54.480 I mean, I could live with four more years of liberals and just get a new leader.

00:32:56.640 I can't listen to that guy any longer.

00:32:58.540 But as you said, I mean, that's the best term.

00:33:00.180 He threw fuel on the fire.

00:33:02.760 You know, again, I don't expect him to capitulate.

00:33:04.600 I don't expect him to go kneeling among them as he did with Black Lives Matters, but at least

00:33:08.920 respect them. And he hasn't, not even in the slightest. And that is not going to calm the

00:33:13.440 situation whatsoever. No, quite the opposite, as you're saying, Corey. The other thing that we

00:33:19.820 can't emphasize enough is that this particular truckers convoy and the protest that has resulted

00:33:27.580 nationwide, and indeed internationally due to it, has been and is nonpartisan. It's not about

00:33:37.780 attacking liberals. It's not about conservatives or NDP or People's Party or Maverick Party. This

00:33:46.020 is nonpartisan. It's people from all political stripes, all financial means, and that's why

00:33:55.840 we've seen this huge growth in the finances to support this effort. Last I saw, it's now over

00:34:02.800 $9 million that have been donated to the GoFundMe for this effort. It's because people have had

00:34:11.620 enough. And so it's nonpartisan. The only person that's really making this partisan is the Prime

00:34:17.280 Minister himself. And he's the one that's fueling yet again the fears. I agree with you that I got

00:34:24.900 triple vaccinated because I believe that's the lowest risk approach for myself and my family and

00:34:30.920 those around me. But having said that, I've upheld the freedoms in Mavericks logo for a reason.

00:34:39.920 We believe, we've always said this for two years now, that we believe in the freedom of Canadian

00:34:45.940 citizenry. And this is a direct attack on those freedoms and it cannot be allowed to continue.

00:34:51.560 Why is it that European countries and the UK and our provinces and our premiers, people like Scott Moe, are lifting restrictions and the Prime Minister is enforcing this latest one on the 10% of truckers that have chosen to be unvaccinated when clearly vaccination does not prevent the contraction of the virus or the spreading of the virus?

00:35:16.560 Great. Well, thanks for coming in to check in with me today, Jay. We'll be watching with interest as things develop with these protests that are going to be going on for quite some time, obviously. So thank you again. I look forward to talking to you again soon.

00:35:30.280 me too uh corin just before we sign off i want to echo the comments you made just prior to me

00:35:36.780 coming on your show about what's happening at the border uh you know part of the reasons why

00:35:41.780 the truckers launched this is concern for the supply chain for the free flow of goods and

00:35:48.300 services across the border i would implore them they've made their point lift that blockade and

00:35:55.080 allow goods to flow through the Coutts border entry point and resolve that without any further

00:36:05.760 blockage or problems down there. Great. Thanks, Jay. Thank you. All right. And yeah, and as I talked

00:36:15.660 with Dave, you know, and as Jay was saying, and then we'd been talking with James, who was down

00:36:19.220 there. I mean, it was really, and it still is remarkable with what was set up on the Alberta

00:36:23.860 America, you know, the border with the United States down there in Coutts. And they're all

00:36:27.760 settled in. I heard rumors that they're going to be getting some degree of funding to help keep

00:36:31.820 them there, perhaps from the main truckers fundraising, which is over $9 million at this

00:36:36.000 point. But as I said, I just want to see reasonable minds. I said earlier, and I hate giving them any

00:36:41.920 credit, but if you look at these kinds of protests, if you ever see a union do it, or, you know,

00:36:45.440 progressives do it, if they're going to block a parking lot or a business, what they do is they'll

00:36:49.080 hinder the traffic for a while and then move aside, though, and let some through. And then

00:36:53.240 hindered. It's annoying and it puts pressure on, but it leaves a vent. And they know that because

00:36:58.180 if they completely stop it up, they will give the ammunition to their opponents to move in and

00:37:04.460 take them out of there. So these guys at the border in Alberta, you got to move aside,

00:37:09.380 let some traffic through. It doesn't mean you give up the protest, doesn't mean you stop your

00:37:12.680 demonstration. It's just that you got to give a little, you know, and it would be good for you

00:37:17.000 guys. It will keep you there longer. I know the RCMP, I mean, who knows what they're going to be

00:37:21.660 able to do when they get there. I mean, as Dave said, we got reports that tow truck drivers aren't

00:37:25.440 even willing to intervene anyways. So even if they wanted to move these trucks, we're not sure how

00:37:29.880 they could. And the other aspect is, yes, we want to show how important truckers are. But if we

00:37:36.400 really push the supply lines too hard, again, in the supply chains, you're going to lose that public

00:37:42.660 support that we really need. I mean, that's the thing is more and more of the public gets sick

00:37:45.860 of this. They're going to push back and these demonstrations are showing that. So by all means,

00:37:53.640 you know, do it, but keep it reasonably. Somebody saying there's no trucks at the border.

00:37:57.620 Okay. So welcome to the disinformation of social media. It is there. We've been reporting on it

00:38:02.640 quite regularly at westernstandardonline.com. As Nico has just put the link in the comments area,

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00:39:08.240 You know, something else that was touched upon, and I think it's huge, is listening to the federal transport minister, yeah, talking about bringing in restrictions for interprovincial trucking.

00:39:21.460 This is distressing, to say the least.

00:39:23.920 Like, look how big this protest is already because they've ruined and really harmed the livelihood of a lot of international truckers, the ones who go back and forth on the border.

00:39:32.920 but now they want to actually take those 10% of truckers who aren't vaccinated and ban them from

00:39:38.220 crossing provincial borders. I mean, for one, I'm not sure how the heck you're going to enforce it.

00:39:42.380 Are you going to set up border crossings between the borders? You know, as a supporter of Alberta

00:39:46.180 independence, I might not see that as such a bad thing, but let's just start the work then on

00:39:49.140 breaking this country up and putting those walls up. Because when you've got border crossings

00:39:52.100 between provinces, you're not much of a confederation anymore. But I mean, you think

00:39:57.280 these protests are big now. Put that many more truckers out of work. Mess with the supply chains

00:40:03.520 that much more. It's just astounding with this government. Why would you think when you got this

00:40:09.180 much difficulty already, this much pushback, that you're going to double down? You're going to make

00:40:14.940 it worse? You're going to inspire thousands more truckers to join these protests? Because that's

00:40:20.500 what you'll do. And what? What are you doing? How on earth doesn't that mandate protect Canadians

00:40:27.380 at all? What point in stopping truckers going from BC to Alberta to Saskatchewan? It doesn't

00:40:34.020 matter. It's a ridiculous policy, a damaging policy. And they're considering it. And it's 0.99

00:40:40.240 got me worried. I mean, how out of touch is this bloody government? Well, I guess, you know, 0.94

00:40:45.900 we shouldn't let them surprise you.

00:40:48.240 I just got to have a look here.

00:40:51.360 Okay, I just got a message from Brett Wilson

00:40:53.920 saying calling in one.

00:40:55.880 I think he's going to be coming into the show soon,

00:40:57.660 so I will just keep rambling on.

00:40:59.220 So he's getting there.

00:41:00.400 I know he's out and about and tough to corner.

00:41:03.060 So I'm just going to open my Twitter thing.

00:41:08.260 We should see Brett quite soon.

00:41:10.160 As I said, and just to frame that,

00:41:11.600 so when Brett Wilson comes on,

00:41:12.860 there was that flag being waved.

00:41:15.900 It was a full out. This was a full out swastika Nazi flag. I mean, it was repugnant. You know, 99.9% of the population is disgusted with that. Our parents, our grandparents, our great-grandparents, many of them fought in World War II against that garbage. You know, we, family members got killed by those Nazis. You know, it was one of the most repugnant modern movements in history. You know, between Hitler and Stalin, we saw sick things. So nobody really wanted to see those flags around there. 0.83

00:41:45.640 And again, this was shown in those pictures, though.

00:41:47.960 Isn't that interesting?

00:41:48.800 Those are the only two pictures.

00:41:50.980 Thousands of people there.

00:41:52.560 Thousands of cameras.

00:41:53.480 Everybody carries a phone with a camera now.

00:41:55.400 It's kind of like Sasquatch pictures all disappeared once the camera phone came along, too.

00:41:59.160 You know, no Loch Ness pictures, no fuzzy Sasquatches, no aliens. 0.97

00:42:03.680 Yet, nobody found this swastika moving around the crowd. 0.96

00:42:06.700 Not a one.

00:42:08.400 Strange.

00:42:09.260 And we know why.

00:42:10.140 Because the crowd would have thrown them out in a heartbeat.

00:42:12.720 They didn't even put up with that Confederate flag in there for a moment.

00:42:15.180 So there's no way that was a part or representative of the people at the demonstration.

00:42:22.240 Yet, of course, it was framed that way by people trying to frame the demonstration as being extreme.

00:42:27.520 I mean, yes, what a wonderful way to undercut a demonstration than hold up a symbol as universally repugnant as a swastika.

00:42:35.360 I mean, it just raises ire in everybody the second they see it.

00:42:39.740 But it just doesn't make sense.

00:42:41.200 I mean, we can't, and the fact that they came and went, nobody knows who they are.

00:42:45.180 And I think the best way to expose this is to put out a reward.

00:42:49.000 Let's see who it is then.

00:42:49.780 Let's talk to him.

00:42:50.240 Was this a real genuine neo-Nazi, one of those one in a million?

00:42:54.260 I mean, they exist.

00:42:54.960 They're out there. 1.00

00:42:55.420 There's always a few lunatics and losers. 0.99

00:42:57.220 Or was it actually somebody trying to discredit it? 0.89

00:43:00.120 Both are believable at this point, but we can know for sure it had no part of the rational

00:43:04.380 people of that demonstration.

00:43:05.620 So I see Mr. Wilson in the lobby there.

00:43:07.520 We will pull him into the show and discuss this quickly here.

00:43:11.360 Hey, Brett, how are you doing?

00:43:13.280 I am good.

00:43:14.280 i'm in uh i'm in maui but trust me i am following your social media feed following the convoy closer

00:43:22.440 than uh anyone else in maui yeah i was just down in yuma and much to jane's chagrin i still kept

00:43:29.000 up on the canadian news the whole time we were escaping the winter as well that's just the kind

00:43:33.000 of creatures we are um so i mean what brought us in today though to talk about was you know that as

00:43:39.400 I said before you popped in with that, that flag. I mean, that odious flag being, you know, taken

00:43:44.840 around out there and those couple of pictures and then it vanished. And you jumped into help with,

00:43:50.360 you know, Candace and Derek and myself to say, Hey, let's get a reward out then and see what's

00:43:54.040 behind this. I see who's done this. What inspired you to do that? I imagine the same as us, I guess.

00:44:00.120 Oh, very much. So I am absolutely. Oh, you know what? I'm in a hotel room. Let me cancel.

00:44:04.760 so someone just showed up. I'll be one second. No problem. 20 minutes. Okay, I'm back.

00:44:13.660 That's all right. It's fun being live. You know, we get all the, our blooper reel for the end of

00:44:18.340 the year is going to be magnificent. Yeah, well, wait till my six-month-old grandson comes cruising

00:44:22.380 in. But anyway, I just put out to tweet, and it's the essence of the conversation we're having.

00:44:28.640 Given that one bad apple apparently condemns the entire basket, according to legacy media, 0.96

00:44:34.760 then a black-faced racist leader must mean that all liberals are indeed black-faced racists. 0.98

00:44:41.640 Well, that's right. This guilt by association ridiculousness. I mean, come on. 1.00

00:44:46.080 No, I mean, the stupidity. I actually gave the U.S. ambassador, Bruce Heyman, who I've spent a bit of personal time with, 1.00

00:44:52.120 a bit of grief because he was condemning us for the Confederate flag.

00:44:55.000 And I said, you've got Confederate flags flying in the United States.

00:44:58.920 So don't condemn one walk around as part of this. It really isn't part of.

00:45:03.960 now, by the way, going back to the big picture, as far as I'm concerned, the convoys are about

00:45:07.400 challenging Trudeau. It's less about vaccines. You know, we're pro-vaccine, we're anti-vaccine,

00:45:12.980 we're pro-mandates, we're anti-mandates, all those things. Ignore that. We are, as a nation,

00:45:18.160 incredibly frustrated with the leadership and lack of leadership with Trudeau. And that's the way I've

00:45:23.320 framed my support for all of the convoys. Every, you know, and again, there's been convoys,

00:45:28.480 obviously condemned their landing in Ottawa but there's been groups gathering across our country

00:45:35.360 and why are they doing that frustration yeah and I mean something that I'm glad I brought you on as

00:45:41.360 you said you know we've been on the same page similarly in social media we run in similar

00:45:44.720 circles both of us have been unapologetic in our support for vaccines and feeling it's the

00:45:48.560 right idea we catch some flag when we say that and fair enough we probably will in the comments

00:45:52.240 in a moment here but I mean it also the the people who support the restrictions I think

00:45:57.760 get frustrated when people like you and I say that as well, because they're trying to frame

00:46:01.160 this as being nothing but anti-vaccination people behind these protests are pushing back. And that's

00:46:06.240 not the case at all. A lot of the people are very supportive of vaccines. They're just tired of the

00:46:09.900 mandates. And we have to differentiate between those things. Yeah, I saw a former member of

00:46:14.420 parliament or member, an MLA, Thomas Lukasiewicz, condemning the saying that, look, unless you're

00:46:20.980 vaccinated, you can't drive a truck. Well, that's actually not true for the last couple of years.

00:46:24.580 clearly people have been working in trades of all levels it's this isn't a white-collar country

00:46:29.680 this is a white-collar blue-collar entrepreneurial country and you know I you can't travel unless

00:46:36.300 you're vaccinated you can't go into restaurants unless you're vaccinated so there's a bunch of

00:46:40.160 reasons to be vaccinated relative to you know yes we have to wear seat belts yes you have to

00:46:44.320 have a driver's license yes you have to file a tax return there's things that offend you

00:46:47.400 but you have to do them as part of living in society and I'm really not troubled by the

00:46:52.460 vaccine. I still remember taking a group of clients, whitewater rafting in Ecuador, and we

00:46:57.760 went to a travel clinic and we literally held our arms up and said, what do you got for us?

00:47:02.820 We took every vax that they would give us because yellow fever, diphtheria, blah, blah, blah. But we

00:47:10.280 wanted to be protected. Now, does this vaccine stop transmission? No. But does it mitigate the

00:47:18.240 seriousness? Yes. Does it mitigate transmission? Probably. Is it in our mutual collective common

00:47:24.700 interest? Certainly appears to be. So I don't have any problem with it. Yeah. And I mean,

00:47:29.200 I don't have a problem with the vaccination. Our problem is with, you know, choice and rights and

00:47:33.020 restrictions. That's the problem. And it shouldn't be that complicated. And I don't like the strategy

00:47:38.580 of people trying to divide us, saying that we have to be one side or another on this sort of

00:47:42.180 thing. No, we don't. We don't at all. And facts are changing as we're going along. I mean,

00:47:46.400 And the vaccines, as I said, haven't proven to be terribly effective in stopping transmission.

00:47:51.420 So that should change some of the policy if the policy was based on stopping transmission.

00:47:55.500 As we said, it does appear to be very, you know, effective in reducing the amount of people going into hospitals.

00:48:00.440 So it should still be encouraged.

00:48:02.720 But maybe, you know, restaurant restrictions, for example, I was traveling in the States.

00:48:06.840 I didn't deal with any of those.

00:48:09.020 Maybe we can look at dropping those.

00:48:10.440 If it's not going to stop the transmission, now you're just harassing people and it's making harder on small business owners to get people in and out of their establishment.

00:48:16.400 Well, certainly across the businesses that I'm platformed with in terms of I own a gym in Kelowna, and we had some members threatened to sue me for enforcing the requirement that they wear a mask. And I said, well, here's my address. Never heard a word, never heard a word. But my manager in terms of running the restaurant, we're probably one of the largest gyms in the country, close to 3000 members. And all we've done is try to comply. That's all comply.

00:48:43.900 and you know what the fact that we've got we today have more members in that gym in Kelowna

00:48:49.820 than we did before COVID so compliance isn't offensive to those who want to be there there's

00:48:57.520 certainly those who've raised some noisy moments not wanting to have to proof of vax not wanting

00:49:02.580 to wear masks but again we've just simply tried to accommodate call it the vast majority and

00:49:08.680 that's really all that I mean you go back to the to the convoys that we're talking about right now

00:49:12.780 the compliance with I mean I get emotional when I watch people singing chanting carrying our flag

00:49:20.780 ignore the two flags that were stupid but the bulk of the I mean so many people celebrating the fact 0.92

00:49:27.040 that we're Canadian and you know it's almost one of the most powerful pro-confederation moments 0.98

00:49:32.120 that I've seen when you think about you know the you know the premier of Quebec saying we don't do

00:49:37.180 no pipelines well we bring oil down to Saint Lawrence but we don't do no pipelines come on

00:49:41.820 There's something really wrong about that.

00:49:43.400 It divides our country.

00:49:44.720 This convoy has done more to bring people together than to divide us, except

00:49:49.820 in the eyes of legacy media and a couple of senior liberal politicians.

00:49:55.060 Well, that's it.

00:49:55.640 And then as I started my show with, you know, myself going off and ranting,

00:49:58.900 which is what I like doing, but I mean about how striking, I mean, when, and you

00:50:03.780 know, you and I are getting a little long in the tooth and we have seen a lot of

00:50:07.140 protests over our lifetimes.

00:50:08.480 when have we seen tens of thousands of people converge that peacefully we're talking zero

00:50:13.280 arrests you know none of the imagery of even on those other protests it was outliers who often

00:50:17.360 made the trouble but you know people being tear gassed or people pushing through barriers or

00:50:21.600 assaulting police or spray painting there was none of that like i've never seen such a large

00:50:27.040 respectful protest in my life and they're getting not a bit of credit for it no and it's disappointing

00:50:31.920 i mean i saw a headline today out of the toronto or the ottawa police saying that they were

00:50:36.080 investigating the people who had apparently urinated well there's one or two the people

00:50:40.640 who had uh decorated not desecrated decorated the terry fox memorial and again i'm a huge fan

00:50:48.320 of terry fox who isn't but they didn't destroy they didn't topple the terry fox they put a flag

00:50:56.000 on it and then it got removed and cleaned up i mean it's just the extremes of of media and i'm

00:51:01.840 I'm going to call it the legacy media, as we like to refer to it, has has just been looking for

00:51:06.100 headlines instead of celebrating what we've actually done as a nation coming together. I

00:51:10.600 think there's I get thousands of people responding on social media and there's a few haters. I get

00:51:16.980 that. We all do. But the overwhelming I've never seen the sort of responses I have to the support

00:51:23.100 I showed to the social to the to the convoy efforts. And again, the anti Trudeau convoy

00:51:29.160 efforts. Again, it's, yes, there's a mandate issue. Yes, there's Vax issues. I get all that,

00:51:33.680 but this is really about challenging Trudeau and his leadership or fail in leadership.

00:51:39.060 Absolutely. I mean, it's definitely morphed into something so much more than the, you know,

00:51:43.480 I mean, that was just the seed when the truckers were talking about the vaccine mandate to cross

00:51:46.860 the border, but everybody now who's been discontent, who's been frustrated. I mean,

00:51:50.680 we saw, we've never seen a fundraising effort like this before, you know, over a hundred thousand

00:51:55.060 individual donors, because a lot of Canadians, they don't have the time or the ability to make

00:51:59.020 it out there. We're saying, well, I'll reach my wallet and I'll kick in a few dollars here and

00:52:02.120 there and help these guys out. Again, to be so dismissive of this, especially as a minority

00:52:07.400 prime minister, at least be respectful of these people. You don't have to cave to demands, but

00:52:13.020 he just came out and ripped into them. And that's distressing. I mean, this is only going to make

00:52:17.660 it worse. Well, Corey, I also almost cried laughing. And when I saw the media condemning

00:52:23.560 the fact that there was anonymous donors so what someone doesn't disclose who they are and my

00:52:30.440 comment was they're likely ndp or liberal and don't want their bosses and friends to know

00:52:35.400 that they are also supporting it because within my circle of friends everyone who donated would

00:52:41.240 have put their name on it i'm sure you did i did i mean no issue whatsoever well yeah that's part of

00:52:46.520 a a factor of this cancel culture world we have too somebody might work in a workplace that

00:52:51.320 has an employer or co-workers who would actually try to interfere with their employment if they

00:52:56.440 saw that they donated to something like this like the ability to kick in and not want to deal with

00:53:00.360 a headache that's not unreasonable uh being anonymous in that sense it's a donation and

00:53:06.680 ultimately it's not a tax deductible donation so the name doesn't matter yeah it's it's not your

00:53:11.800 money get over it you know uh but there was a cbc host who actually implied that there was russian

00:53:17.240 interference in this i mean their playbook they've lifted from cnn i was flattened like really you

00:53:22.760 went there and even the guest i believe it was a federal minister was you know well said we've seen

00:53:27.080 no evidence of that whatsoever but why did you even tiptoe into there i mean it's just absurd

00:53:34.600 well for her to say that it's because of the of canada's influence on in the ukraine that russia

00:53:41.080 would have pushed back well let's remember that canada is barely being acknowledged as a

00:53:45.480 participant in the ukraine i mean there was a call that biden did apparently with a number of world

00:53:50.200 leaders and uh our leader i think his name's trudeau um wasn't even invited wasn't even invited

00:53:56.760 we were irrelevant to the global issue in terms of what appears to be a horrible experience that

00:54:04.120 we're going to all suffer in terms of what russia is going to do to the ukraine but for her to to 0.87

00:54:09.720 bring it up to me that's patently blatantly offensive yeah it was just ridiculous i mean

00:54:16.120 honestly where do you think you're going with it um but before we wrap up here then just to get back

00:54:21.400 to where we started uh and remind people i mean we aren't kidding around you know uh the standard

00:54:25.960 will put in a thousand bucks candace will put in a thousand i think you offered a a few thousand 0.99

00:54:30.120 along with it so if we find whoever that clown was wandering around with that repugnant flag you 0.97

00:54:35.880 You know, hey, somebody, you know, let us know. 0.96

00:54:38.540 You can pocket $5,000 and let's find out what really was behind that.

00:54:42.940 That's all we want to know.

00:54:43.840 We're not looking to hang and whip this person, though I suspect if they were exposed, they might not get a pleasant reception from the world at large.

00:54:50.900 But, you know, let's remind everybody.

00:54:53.580 I can't help but wonder if someone, again, the guy carrying the Confederate flag was wearing, it looks like swimming goggles with a face mask, not a COVID mask, but a full winter mask.

00:55:05.420 and he was he was hiding for sure he was hiding he didn't want to know that's truly anonymous if

00:55:10.320 you want to go down that path but i think we need to expose whoever was wearing or carrying the

00:55:16.260 confederate flag and the nazi flag and that's in our mutual interest to say hey enough is enough

00:55:21.620 is enough i mean that sort of stuff but i mean we had 100 000 200 000 500 000 people across canada

00:55:28.200 who were participating in varying degrees to this convoy and the social media and the headlines

00:55:33.600 out of legacy media were focused on two flags, Nazis.

00:55:36.720 Yeah, and there's a great political cartoon.

00:55:38.940 I think it's from a past event.

00:55:40.220 I'm not sure, but I don't have it on hand,

00:55:42.040 but it was an awesome one.

00:55:43.000 You've probably seen it go around

00:55:43.960 with all of these positive protesters

00:55:46.920 in the background saying love and peace

00:55:48.660 and this and that. 0.70

00:55:49.600 And then there's a few Nazis right in the middle,

00:55:51.900 like five of them.

00:55:52.580 And then there's 100 media members

00:55:53.800 all focused on the five Nazis.

00:55:55.540 And it absolutely hits it right on the head. 0.99

00:55:58.900 I mean, it's ridiculous. 0.96

00:55:59.840 The coverage is being given to this tiny minority 0.59

00:56:01.720 when, when we should be celebrating, holy cow, we got over 10,000 people into one spot and they

00:56:06.700 actually went out with garbage bags and cleaned up after themselves. Yeah. That's never been

00:56:10.720 done by the left. It's never been done by the people who were trying to undermine our

00:56:14.840 infrastructure, whether it was coastal pipeline or, or some of the railway blockages and stuff

00:56:19.780 like that. Nobody's ever cleaned up after themselves. No. All right. Well, thank you

00:56:24.360 very much for coming on to talk to us and thanks for kicking in on the reward. Maybe we'll actually

00:56:28.040 sprout something. I mean, maybe it is a guy who hides out in a basement with some neo-Nazi friends

00:56:32.560 and, you know, those guys might rat him out for a few grand, buy some, whatever those neo-Nazis

00:56:36.860 buy, all 10 of them we have in Canada. But at least we could find out what was at the root of it.

00:56:41.120 Well, hopefully we're reaching the end of the black-faced leadership. 1.00

00:56:44.680 I sure hope so. It's not doing him any favors this week. Anyways, it's good to see him scared. 0.99

00:56:49.040 Thanks again for coming on, Brett. It's good to talk to you.

00:56:51.440 Appreciate the opportunity, Corey.

00:56:53.080 All right. Enjoy Hawaii there.

00:56:54.400 Thank you.

00:56:54.860 all right so that was brett wilson and you know it was refreshing to get him on as i said we've

00:57:01.000 we've interacted online and on twitter many a time and we have some very uh certainly similar

00:57:06.020 points of views on a number of issues and just getting you know showing that hey we can push

00:57:11.500 back you know we and we're not putting up with having the legacy media control the narrative on

00:57:16.760 this having them try to paint this movement as a neo-nazi as a hateful as a racist i mean all those

00:57:23.420 words. And for those who can stomach it, you know, or maybe if you're constipated and you want to

00:57:27.940 induce a movement, watch Trudeau's conference, listen to it. And yes, you might throw up, but

00:57:34.080 all the same, it really lets you know the deficit in leadership we have in this country to have a

00:57:39.740 prime minister at a time like this, with thousands of people gathered on the steps of Ottawa, with

00:57:45.180 truckers on the border down there, to pour gas on the fire and call them all extremists, to call 0.98

00:57:49.720 them hateful, to imply that they have anything to do with these handful of losers out there, 0.73

00:57:57.000 you know, who did go on to the memorial monument, the tomb of the unknown soldier, 0.97

00:58:03.040 things like that. Irresponsible, dangerous, ugly. And people are starting to call them out. 0.97

00:58:10.840 You know, people are calling them out. I see some commenters, you know, some don't like Brett,

00:58:14.880 and some don't like his stance. That's okay. Lots of people don't like me, I assure you.

00:58:18.680 see my inbox some mornings. But I mean, we're speaking on, we got a lot of common ground on

00:58:23.380 a lot of issues here, guys. And let's focus on those things. And what we can focus on right now,

00:58:28.560 as I keep saying, and we want to keep focusing on is these amazing, peaceful, effective protests.

00:58:35.080 We just don't see this. We've never seen this. And it's great to see. So let's keep the message

00:58:40.080 on there. And let's keep bypassing the mainstream media. This happened despite the mainstream media.

00:58:45.280 You know that? They tried to ignore this protest at first. What happened? It got bigger.

00:58:49.640 Then they tried to wrongly claim that the fundraising was going to be misappropriated.

00:58:53.920 That didn't work. Fundraising kept going. It's up over $9 million now. Now they are wrongly trying

00:58:58.880 to claim that it's just a handful. Well, no, they're saying it's a lot of extremists and

00:59:03.540 intolerant people, and that's not working either. So let's keep pushing back, keep supporting

00:59:09.560 alternative media, and we can change this narrative back. We don't have to listen to

00:59:14.040 garbage the CBC feeds us. So John's not quite in the lobby yet. So on the way to that, we'll get

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01:00:56.700 Mr. Carpe here yet. I hope he's going to join us pretty quickly. And what John was going to be here

01:01:01.080 to talk about today was we've, we've written on that before, you know, we've got the,

01:01:06.960 the Alberta government has done a bizarre move there. They've changed the legislation. They

01:01:12.900 were supposed to come up just to, it was supposed to come into force recently where you no longer

01:01:16.520 would be able to go to traffic court to fight a traffic ticket. I'm sure you're probably familiar

01:01:20.560 with it. You would have to go before like an adjudicator. You'd have to pay a fee almost up

01:01:27.260 to 150 bucks just to fight your own ticket. And if you lose, you're going to lose that too. So

01:01:31.240 you're doubling down on it. And that adjudicator can't even say, reduce a ticket, put off your

01:01:35.760 payment period, things like a judge can do. All they can do is say thumbs up or thumbs down on

01:01:39.740 it. So let's face it. It's a cash grab. It's trying to just take away and make it so inconvenient

01:01:46.720 the ability to defend yourself in a traffic offense that you'll just reach in your wallet

01:01:50.800 and pay the bill, give the government some more money. And John is pushing back on that, you know,

01:01:56.940 and he's with the Justice Center for Constitutional

01:01:59.320 Freedoms. That's what they do. You know, they've been

01:02:01.220 standing up for some of the businesses who

01:02:02.980 took a stand against vaccine mandates

01:02:04.940 and passports and things like that or the lockdowns.

01:02:08.080 He's been standing up,

01:02:09.220 you know, for the pastors who've been arrested,

01:02:11.540 the one up by Edmonton and some of the others.

01:02:13.800 And he's

01:02:15.280 been consistent in standing up for

01:02:17.220 individual rights. So he's

01:02:19.220 pushing back on this change

01:02:21.060 to the legislation

01:02:23.260 that we've got with the traffic courts. And

01:02:25.020 it'll be interesting to talk to him about

01:02:27.340 it as soon as he gets here.

01:02:29.460 So, where else do we want

01:02:31.340 to go? Let's talk to some commenters.

01:02:33.820 And, uh,

01:02:35.780 Jennifer

01:02:36.820 Schofield, saying her husband

01:02:39.400 and her son love cryptocurrency.

01:02:42.060 But, doesn't like

01:02:43.340 Kenny either. Okay, that's fair enough.

01:02:45.380 We don't have to like Kenny.

01:02:47.720 Let's talk about Kenny anyway.

01:02:49.480 I'm filling some time here.

01:02:51.940 Where is he? He came out

01:02:53.140 very strongly against the truckers parked at the Alberta-US border. And again, I've been very

01:03:00.060 critical of Kenny, but he's in a rock and a hard place here. This has turned into something of a

01:03:04.120 federal issue, though there's provincial involvement in it too. I mean, I guess they're far enough back

01:03:07.760 that it's not technically the border, but they are interfering with the border, which makes it a

01:03:12.320 border interference. Kenny has come out in uncertain terms and said it's got to stop.

01:03:16.900 Okay. You know, Premier Kennedy, if you want higher ground, get rid of Alberta's vaccine

01:03:25.780 mandates. Get rid of the passport. It's not doing anything. As I was saying earlier, all it is doing

01:03:31.560 is hounding small businesses. It's getting on the case of restaurant owners, business owners.

01:03:37.400 It's not stopping transmission. It doesn't do anything for transmission. We've established that.

01:03:41.960 You know what? If you do that, maybe you'll have a higher ground when you talk to these protesters

01:03:46.300 if you don't like them and say, hey, I'm backing off. We're coming back to normal. You know, hang

01:03:53.020 on, guys. We'll sort this out. See, look at me. I'm cooperative. I want more freedoms. But Kenny's

01:03:58.600 not showing any sign of that. He said, kind of, sort of, maybe, might lift some mandates

01:04:03.760 on St. Patrick's Day. Well, okay, you know, surely it's a coincidence that that's just before your

01:04:13.300 leadership review, eh, Premier Kenney? I mean, come on. If we don't need them now, get rid of

01:04:20.300 them. And then you can say, look, farmers, truckers, people on the border, I'm working 0.81

01:04:26.600 for you. I'm standing up for you. I'm tired of these mandates too. And I'm going to lobby on

01:04:31.860 behalf of Alberta and the truckers and the farmers against this clown in Ottawa and make sure we can 0.81

01:04:37.460 get our freedoms. But Kenney's been talking out of both sides of his mouth on this. I mean, he's

01:04:41.520 been supportive of the protests, it seems, in Ottawa, but at the same time refuses to reduce

01:04:47.620 the mandates that he is directly in charge of in Alberta. So, I mean, come on, why would you

01:04:52.880 expect Trudeau to take you seriously then if you weren't going to do it yourself? And I've gotten

01:04:59.780 an email, by the way, just so you know that, yes, John is going to be with us pretty soon,

01:05:05.100 so you don't have to listen to me awkwardly babbling for too much longer, but there's

01:05:07.920 always lots to go on about anyways. So, I mean, that's my advice to Kenny. And as I was saying

01:05:12.820 earlier, though, I am worried. And as others are reporting, it sounds like the RCMP are going to

01:05:16.960 be moving down there. I want to see reason. Like we've had such great, peaceful, effective protest

01:05:22.320 going on all weekend. Let's not see things go off the rails anywhere, whether it's in Ottawa,

01:05:27.980 whether it's at the Alberta Coutts Crossing, you know, let's keep it peaceful and effective,

01:05:33.040 you know, stand your ground, but let's not have a big dispute. Let's not force officers to

01:05:37.820 arrest people. Let's not force the towing. We can let a little traffic through and move out of the

01:05:41.420 way, things like that. Use those tactics. But if you're completely intransigent, you aren't going

01:05:46.880 to be able to effectively maintain your protest. Don't give him an excuse. So let's hope some

01:05:56.560 reason prevails down there. I'm getting a little bit worried about it. I see John in the lobby

01:06:01.480 there. I think we're going to add him to the stream quite quickly here if we can. And he might

01:06:06.860 I had a sound issue too. Let's pull him in, see if he can hear me or not. Okay. Well,

01:06:13.800 we'll just hang on a little while with John there. Uh, he should be in the stream pretty soon. I see

01:06:17.440 him waving. So I think he hears us. Uh, so we're going to talk with him quite quickly here.

01:06:23.160 There we go. Hey, John, how you doing? Hey, good to see you. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. These live shows

01:06:29.020 always, uh, keep us, uh, hopping there. So I imagine that's Joel there. Hey, good to see you

01:06:33.700 too. Thank you. Good to see you. All right. So thanks for coming on. I've been kind of framing

01:06:39.380 this for a bit here. I wanted to, I mean, you've got so many irons in the fire. It's hard to talk

01:06:43.120 about which freedom issue you're pushing at any given time. But the most immediate was a column

01:06:48.900 you had in the Western Standard. And it was about the loss of due process that we're seeing with the

01:06:55.780 traffic courts from Premier Kenya. Perhaps we get to expand on what you'd written about and what

01:07:00.500 you're doing for it? So the Administrative Penalties, the Provincial Administrative

01:07:06.600 Penalties Act removes the presumption of innocence from Albertans so that from the moment that you

01:07:13.340 get a ticket from a police officer, you're not charged with an offense to which you can plead

01:07:19.020 not guilty, but you're getting a notice of penalty. You are presumed to be guilty. If you

01:07:26.260 want to challenge that the onus is on you to prove your innocence and uh you have to pay a fee of

01:07:32.980 $50 uh minimum uh or as much as $150 if the ticket is for a higher amount you have to pay

01:07:41.280 to prove your innocence um this goes before a provincial government employee not a trained

01:07:48.100 lawyer uh not a traffic court judge but a provincial government employee uh is going to

01:07:53.820 rule on whether you're guilty or innocent and that provincial employee has to, uh,

01:08:00.840 accept, uh, any evidence that the police give has to be accepted as,

01:08:06.900 as if given under oath.

01:08:10.480 And so it's, it's, uh, heads I win for the government and tells you

01:08:15.300 lose for the person that got their notice of penalty.

01:08:18.660 Yeah, I mean, it's just absurd, I think, to most even casual listeners. I mean, I think part of what they use as a justification is that while driving isn't a right, so it's not a criminal sanction if we take it away, thus you don't need to go to court.

01:08:34.540 I think they kind of used that when they reduced the or gave so many abilities for seizure of your vehicle in impaired cases and things such as that, right?

01:08:41.000 well the other they started this uh they rushed it through on the ever popular pretext of cracking

01:08:48.740 down on impaired driving and like you and like everybody else i think impaired driving is a very

01:08:56.040 serious crime it's a very bad behavior and we should have severe penalties uh however uh there's

01:09:03.900 problem here too that if you the moment you are accused of being impaired you are already uh

01:09:12.620 losing your your car for three months and uh with with very little you can do to defend yourself

01:09:19.340 it's not a contradiction to say that we should we should deal harshly with impaired driving and we

01:09:25.980 still maintain a presumption of innocence that uh we can't we can't just give the police absolute

01:09:33.500 power to make these judgment calls to just hand out fines left, right, and center, because then

01:09:40.240 you get to a situation where if the police doesn't like your attitude or doesn't like your skin color,

01:09:45.700 they can just issue you a ticket and the onus is on you to prove your innocence. That's not the

01:09:50.300 kind of society I want to live in. No, I mean, the presumption of innocence is a basis for justice

01:09:57.640 in every civilized society.

01:10:00.200 I mean, your nation is not operating the right way

01:10:03.600 if you're guilty until proven innocent.

01:10:05.520 And even in the most minor of issues,

01:10:07.140 that's one of the areas where you can't afford wiggle room.

01:10:10.300 Well, here's the thing.

01:10:11.620 I mean, the government argues, you know,

01:10:13.860 look, it's only traffic court.

01:10:15.440 You're not getting a criminal record.

01:10:17.260 If you're charged with a crime, you know,

01:10:19.320 shoplifting, impaired driving.

01:10:21.140 If you're charged with a crime, you have all the full,

01:10:23.700 the right to a lawyer and the right to be presumed innocent.

01:10:26.840 and this is only for traffic offenses. But here is the problem. They're going to expand this to

01:10:32.120 every provincial offense. They started with impaired driving. Next, they're scrapping

01:10:37.240 traffic courts. So all traffic offenses, you're guilty from the moment you get a ticket.

01:10:41.900 And then after that, every provincial law on the books. The problem is you get a pretty nasty

01:10:48.100 totalitarian state if the state can just casually hand out tickets to anybody and everybody all the

01:10:58.320 time without needing to prove your guilt. That's the problem, especially today when there are so

01:11:04.940 many laws on the books, right? You've got hundreds of thousands of regulations that you're supposed

01:11:12.160 to be abiding by. So they plan to do this to all provincial offenses. Yeah, this incremental loss

01:11:20.760 of rights. I mean, it's scary and it's troubling. And what gets me is, I mean, you'd think the alarm

01:11:25.900 bells would have gone off immediately when this was even pitched. But I think they're feeling

01:11:30.260 emboldened. You know, they've gotten away this last two years on so much infringement on our

01:11:34.560 rights in general, they're realizing we're often prone to passively taking it. So you know what,

01:11:38.860 let's see how far we can get with this. The people, the governments will keep on violating

01:11:45.420 our rights to the extent that we allow them to. And, you know, I'm just really thrilled to see

01:11:50.940 what's going on in Ottawa with the truckers convoy, people rising up, people protesting.

01:11:56.800 I have no doubt that if the government already had some pushback on this Provincial

01:12:03.800 Administrative Penalties Act, they were going to abolish traffic court and have a presumption

01:12:12.380 of guilt on traffic offenses for February 1st. That was the plan. They were already getting

01:12:17.800 pushback. And now they're saying, oh, well, we're going to wait for another two or three months.

01:12:23.680 Well, now we've got another two or three months. And if the MLA is here from their own constituents

01:12:28.540 that this is not acceptable, they will retreat and they will withdraw the legislation.

01:12:33.800 Yeah, I mean, again, it's in our court and it's up to us and it has been heartening. I mean, never in my life have I seen at least conservative Canadians typically or individual freedom-loving Canadians get up on mass like this and demonstrate as we've seen in Ottawa or even down on the border.

01:12:51.780 I'm hoping, you know, maybe that bold attitude that the government's gotten is going to be countered by a new empowered attitude of saying, hey, you know what? We don't have to take this crap. We can push back. 0.99

01:13:03.800 And, you know, there is a link between this and the lockdowns because people, you know, having been told that COVID would be like the Spanish flu of 1918 and would kill tens of millions of people around the globe and would kill, you know, hundreds of thousands of Canadians, all of which has proven to be demonstrably false.

01:13:23.080 but we got into the state of fear we gave up our charter rights and freedoms and then in that

01:13:28.320 context the government comes along and gets rid of the presumption of innocence so it is it is

01:13:34.940 tied together with uh just the the whole climate of fear and the government taking advantage of

01:13:41.680 of people to really uh really undermine our democratic uh our free and democratic society

01:13:51.660 which is what really the what our soldiers have fought and died for in the wars is to preserve

01:13:56.780 Canada as a free society. Yeah so are you guys challenging this then on a charter basis or how

01:14:03.900 are you trying to push back like what do you have to wait till somebody's gotten one of these new

01:14:07.900 tickets under the new order or can you preemptively start pushing back legally on this? We it would be

01:14:14.140 possible to do a preemptive court action usually uh the the best court actions are where the state

01:14:21.260 is unfairly bullying somebody picking on somebody and then you act for that person you generally

01:14:28.220 have a better fact scenario i'm in touch with uh with other lawyers not just our justice center

01:14:34.620 lawyers but with other lawyers across alberta who are very unhappy with this legislation and so we

01:14:42.140 will be, if the government does not withdraw it, we will indeed be challenging it. And the likely

01:14:48.700 way would be for somebody to get a ticket and be presumed guilty and have to go through this

01:14:55.820 whole process. That would be our fact scenario to challenge the law.

01:14:59.340 Great. And as I said before you came on, actually, and as I said, when you got here,

01:15:03.740 you got a lot of irons in the fire. So while I got you, I'll touch on a couple.

01:15:06.780 One of the commenters did bring up Brian Peckford and he's been working with you guys

01:15:11.660 on a charter challenge right now though can you expand a bit on what's happening there

01:15:16.860 well i just want to say it's amazing how the uh the government funded media which is not just

01:15:22.460 the cdc but also the global mail the national post all of these so-called mainstream media

01:15:28.300 there's not one that has doing any coverage on the fact that the only living signatory to the

01:15:35.500 canadian charter of rights and freedoms signed in 1982 brian peckford at that time premier of

01:15:40.860 newfoundland the only living signatory to the charter is suing the federal government over

01:15:45.820 violating the charter and this in the year when we are celebrating the 40th anniversary of the

01:15:51.820 charter and you would think that somebody other than not only western standard and the rebel and

01:15:57.740 true north is getting media coverage in the united states but yeah we're we're taking the federal

01:16:03.420 government accord over this utterly unscientific discrimination against people that have not had

01:16:09.960 the COVID shot. And Brian Peckford, former premier of Newfoundland, is our lead plaintiff on that.

01:16:16.720 Yes. And I mean, it has gotten some good alternative coverage. I hope we could get

01:16:20.860 him on here to chat at some point. I'd really like to. We'll see. And he actually, I believe,

01:16:24.900 went on Jordan Peterson's show even with them. That's a huge reach and says a lot. And what I

01:16:31.000 love about that though as you'd mentioned the mainstream media won't touch it they've got their

01:16:34.160 agenda but boy we've got a whole new media rising not just us but all over the place they can't stop

01:16:39.440 this from getting out anymore you know you've got uh all of these american uh when i googled uh you

01:16:45.720 know brian peckford uh charter challenge you know some of the key words and there's a whole bunch of

01:16:52.300 coverage uh not cbc national post global mill but you've got you know life site news western standard

01:16:58.160 the Rebel True North and a whole bunch of American media outlets are recognizing that whatever your

01:17:04.000 position might be, maybe you think the vaccine mandate is a wonderful thing. You still have to

01:17:08.880 recognize it's a significant news story when somebody is taking this to court. And I think

01:17:16.800 the mainstream media will continue to lose more and more credibility because they're lacking in

01:17:22.600 integrity. Yeah, well, they shoot themselves in the feet. And it just can't be stated enough. I

01:17:28.600 mean, this is a man who took part in making history. I mean, if anybody can speak to what

01:17:33.600 the intent of the charter was when they drafted it, when they framed it, it's the last living

01:17:37.900 member and signatory of it. And he's being overlooked. And that's just ridiculous.

01:17:44.460 It's going to be an interesting court action. It's in the Federal Court of Canada. 0.65

01:17:49.540 It might be consolidated with other actions. I know that the People's Party of Canada leader Maxime Bernier is going to court as well to challenge these regulations that prohibit him, prevent him from carrying out his job as a political party leader for being able to travel around the country.

01:18:11.000 and the onus is going to be on the government to bring the science to court. It'll be interesting

01:18:16.340 to see what the government has to say when we know for a fact that the COVID vaccines are not

01:18:22.720 stopping Omicron. We know for a fact that vaccinated people are spreading the virus.

01:18:29.820 We see our prime minister putting himself into isolation after being triple vaccinated. He's

01:18:36.260 admitting that as a triple vaccinated person, he's still spreading the virus. So there's just 0.99

01:18:41.360 no scientific or medical basis for having any kind of discrimination against Canadians who choose

01:18:48.620 not to get this particular COVID vaccine. Yeah, this house of cards on this thing has to fall

01:18:55.320 apart eventually. I mean, the Trudeau example is great. And I don't even know if he realizes

01:18:58.540 that he just undercut his whole basis. But I mean, our personal liberties and freedoms

01:19:03.220 as Canadians. I don't think in generations have we seen so much threat to it and so much

01:19:08.000 infringement upon it as we have right now. Certainly keeping you busy, and I really

01:19:12.340 appreciate that. Are there other actions? I know you've always got a lot going on that you could

01:19:17.240 give some updates on. I know you're speaking for so many different cases going on out there.

01:19:22.340 Well, the big ones are the federal ones. We're also, the challenge is ongoing that we filed

01:19:29.180 quite a few months ago against the quarantine hotels or the prison hotels so that action is

01:19:35.800 moving forward. We are challenging vaccine passports in Ontario and gearing up to challenge

01:19:42.140 them in other provinces. In Alberta we've had Alberta Health Services keep on backing down 0.98

01:19:48.900 on its threat to fire unvaccinated doctors and nurses and other health care workers 0.55

01:19:54.640 uh so we are suing alberta health services and uh that you know we think that's part of the reason

01:20:02.620 they're a little bit less bold than what they would be because they also they're a government

01:20:06.060 entity they need to show the science as to why their policies are scientific and they're going

01:20:14.660 to have an awfully hard time uh coming up with the science in court when they don't have the

01:20:19.680 media bully pulpit, and they actually have to produce some real evidence before a judge.

01:20:24.620 Yeah, and they don't seem eager to get to court. I mean, a lot of challenges I see,

01:20:27.420 they just keep kicking it down the road and kicking it down the road, but they can't hide

01:20:30.920 forever, just as even Trudeau poked his head up out of the gopher hole today briefly to berate

01:20:35.060 protesters and then went back into hiding. So they're most certainly interesting times. So

01:20:39.640 you guys are with the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms. Let me make sure

01:20:43.920 I got the URL right, jccf.ca, is it?

01:20:47.640 That's correct.

01:20:48.760 And we're looking to hire more lawyers.

01:20:51.740 So spread the word.

01:20:53.420 If you know lawyers that want to work for freedom and justice

01:20:56.660 and devote their careers to a very noble cause,

01:21:02.900 we are receiving applications and looking to hire more lawyers.

01:21:06.660 Great. Yeah, I was just going to plug for donors,

01:21:08.500 but I see you're looking for lawyers as well.

01:21:09.920 But I mean, and you do need support as well.

01:21:11.660 I mean, this is one of those things.

01:21:12.560 if we don't stand up for ourselves, nobody else will. So yeah, at times, you know, as we've seen

01:21:17.100 them fantastically reaching into their wallets and helping out with the convoy for freedom going

01:21:21.760 out to Ottawa, we've got to help out on these challenges and you guys are doing such a great

01:21:25.420 job there. So just all those listeners, you know, check out jccf.ca and see how you can help John

01:21:31.340 and all those excellent lawyers with them stand up for our rights out there because we're in some

01:21:36.100 very troubling times. Well, the only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men

01:21:42.520 to do nothing. And so it's great to see Canadians that are rising up and actively engaging in the

01:21:49.660 political process, exercising their democratic rights and freedoms as citizens. And we're going

01:21:56.600 to win for freedom because in the long run, truth will vanquish the lies and good will triumph over

01:22:02.360 evil. And because there's enough people that are basically saying, look, it's better to die

01:22:07.440 standing than to live on your knees. And so we're going to move ahead and we will restore freedom

01:22:12.280 to this country, the freedoms that have been lost in the last 23 months. Great. Well, thanks,

01:22:18.180 John. I appreciate your determination and your work. And of course, for you joining me today

01:22:21.660 to share that with you. I hope we get to talk again soon. Thanks. I appreciate the invitation.

01:22:26.400 them. Have a great day, Corey. Great. Thanks, John. So yeah. And again, just that reminder to

01:22:32.220 people, I see somebody typing, asking Brad Haugen, and I'll get to that video, Brad, honest.

01:22:37.600 It was jccf.ca, if you want to check those guys out. Or if you just even Google, I mean,

01:22:43.620 your media, again, is quite slanted and, you know, hard to trust. But if you look up John

01:22:49.740 Carpe and the stuff they've done, they've been active for years now on these individual freedom

01:22:54.860 cases. And as I said, like everything else, it's up to us. And it's like John said, you know,

01:23:00.080 we have to stand up for ourselves and we're doing it. Maybe we finally hit that tipping point. You

01:23:04.840 know, those docile Canadians, those ever polite Canadians, those yes or no sir Canadians have

01:23:10.700 finally said, Hey, Hey, Hey, back off. I have rights. The government has gone too far. They've

01:23:18.920 extended too much. We need to put the brakes on here. And we're seeing it in Ottawa. We're seeing

01:23:26.840 it at the Alberta border. We're seeing it with actually, I'm not giving enough credit to there

01:23:30.120 were demonstrations in Vancouver. There was a big one in Edmonton. A convoy went up there,

01:23:34.000 a lot of trucks. There's so many, it's hard to point out. There was a lot of people gathered

01:23:38.880 in Calgary. I wish I had made it to that one. Because as I said, some of the smaller gatherings

01:23:42.420 I'd gotten frustrated with because unfortunately, some more zany supporters and so on tended to

01:23:48.420 dominate the narrative, but I think we've finally, as somebody else said, yes, tipping point,

01:23:52.880 as Brenda said in the comments, you know, we've hit that point where now the majority is taking

01:23:58.360 over at these protests. I'm not saying they represent the majority of Canadians as yet,

01:24:02.680 but a large number of rational people are out there and pushing back and saying, we've had

01:24:08.080 enough. And, you know, the government has reached the line, we're done with it, back off. And I'm

01:24:17.120 loving seeing it. You know, this is an attitude. People talk about, you know, my independence

01:24:20.620 history and things like that for Alberta independence, Western independence, and I

01:24:25.560 still hold a lot of it because I think our system's broken, but that's another show altogether.

01:24:29.780 But part of it was, and I wouldn't say it was a shame to be Canadian. There's a lot of great

01:24:32.540 things about being Canadian and Canada's done a lot of great things. But one of the low points

01:24:37.440 of Canadianism was, and people see it as a virtue, is that ever diminutive Canadian politeness,

01:24:45.620 that shuffling, I don't want to make noise, I don't want to make waves, I apologize, I apologize,

01:24:50.280 I apologize. No, you don't apologize, sure, if you did something wrong. If you apologize for

01:24:57.900 everything from a raindrop hitting a neighbor to, you know, somebody else's fart in an elevator, 1.00

01:25:02.860 you're just being pathetic. And this propensity to just always be the dishrag has not served us 0.99

01:25:10.200 well. But I'm seeing now, we're seeing that backbone, we're seeing those tough Canadians

01:25:14.860 standing up. We are tough. We live through nasty winters. We work our butts off out here. We were

01:25:20.320 extremely respectable in a number of wars. We still have some fantastic people working in the

01:25:25.320 service overseas and peacekeeping and doing things like that. We still have a backbone hiding under

01:25:29.900 all that trademark Canadian politeness, and we're starting to use it, and I'm really happy to see

01:25:35.680 that. Let's get that Canadian toughness to the fore for a little while. It doesn't mean you have

01:25:39.200 be rude. It just means you don't always have to be docile. Push back. Because you know, if you

01:25:46.520 don't, someone's going to walk all over you. We're seeing it. So I'm watching these protests. We're

01:25:52.820 watching them unfold. It's a bit of a standoff. I mean, it's going to be a lot to report on. And I

01:25:56.400 got to remind everybody, keep watching westernstandardonline.com. Dave is putting news

01:26:00.680 stories up as they break because we're at something of a standoff. Here's where I get a little bit

01:26:05.300 worried with the protest in Ottawa and the one in Alberta. You always need an off-ramp. We do

01:26:12.460 have to make sure that there could be a resolution. The people going to Ottawa, I'm sure they had

01:26:17.920 well-intentioned, but say that memorandum of understanding talking about the Senate and the

01:26:21.920 governor general and taking Trudeau out of power. Guys, it's not going to happen. I'm not trying to

01:26:26.280 crap on your movement. I'm just trying to crap on your demands. It's not going to happen. It's not 0.95

01:26:29.420 reasonable. Justin Trudeau is not going to be taken from office. The only time that's going to

01:26:33.540 happen is in the next election. I sure hope that's when it happens. And I hope it happens soon.

01:26:39.340 But let's, yeah, at times you got to come to a point of saying there's got to be a little bit

01:26:43.220 of negotiation then. What are we talking about? Standing your ground on the vaccination requirements

01:26:49.680 crossing the border. Sure, that's one. It's a demand and it's one that Trudeau could fill. I

01:26:53.800 don't think it's probably to let him do it, but at least you've got one there and you got something

01:26:56.540 you could talk about and it's reasonable and maybe some other demands and give Trudeau or at least

01:27:01.260 give the advisors who were smarter to throw some ammunition to say, look, maybe we can smooth this

01:27:06.100 a bit and back it off. Because a protest, if you're intractable, if there's just no way that you can

01:27:11.140 make a deal, then it won't necessarily be that productive. Eventually it'll fizzle out or perhaps

01:27:15.820 go bad. And that's not good. It's not. I know you want to stay there a long time and you probably

01:27:20.140 will. But if there's no progress and there's frustration, that's how things can go off the

01:27:24.900 rails and we can lose all that fantastic ground we've been gaining so far. So it's difficult with

01:27:30.160 the decentralized, truly grassroots movement like this.

01:27:33.180 You know, I mean, people are coming

01:27:34.500 for a number of reasons now and things,

01:27:36.700 but hopefully the organizers can get together

01:27:39.100 and come up with plans and make sure

01:27:41.280 that the messaging stays positive.

01:27:42.760 They've been doing magnificently so far.

01:27:44.980 And this keeps happening.

01:27:46.400 You know, we keep seeing more demonstrations

01:27:48.660 across the country and we will force our way out

01:27:52.680 of these mandates and these restrictions.

01:27:54.580 Cause as we're seeing, the government loves control.

01:27:57.040 It wouldn't matter if there wasn't a COVID case for a month,

01:27:59.620 They would still like to keep us locked down.

01:28:01.640 They would.

01:28:01.980 There's just people who thrive on this.

01:28:03.560 I mean, look at some of the vitriol on the internet.

01:28:05.460 Control me, control me. 1.00

01:28:07.080 Oh, it's pathetic. 1.00

01:28:08.580 They remind me of the gimp out of that movie in the past 1.00

01:28:11.560 with his gag ball and his mask on. 0.99

01:28:13.740 My God. 0.99

01:28:14.400 Okay, you're a sub.

01:28:15.520 You get off. 0.99

01:28:16.100 You're a bottom. 0.94

01:28:17.000 Fine, but leave me to be an individual

01:28:18.840 to stand up for myself. 0.99

01:28:20.380 We don't need the government whipping my butt 0.99

01:28:21.800 on your behalf. 0.99

01:28:23.500 So back off.

01:28:25.560 We're in a good place.

01:28:26.840 Let's keep it reasonable.

01:28:28.040 We're doing really well.

01:28:28.940 And I want to see that trend continue. So before I let go, that was a really good show. A lot of

01:28:33.100 fantastic commenters and viewers. I appreciate it. Western Standard has been getting record

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01:29:09.260 This is how we get around that rotten mainstream media.

01:29:12.340 This is how we don't let them control the message.

01:29:15.260 This is how we retake our freedoms.

01:29:17.160 So thank you all for tuning in today.

01:29:18.960 I've got a great show tomorrow.

01:29:20.420 I've got Crystal Witvrongel from the Montreal Economic Institute coming on,

01:29:25.280 and it's going to be a really good discussion with her.

01:29:27.220 and Dave Bradley is going to come on. We're going to talk about digital currencies. And then of

01:29:30.840 course, as news breaks, as we get guests, we might have some more folks coming in as things go. So

01:29:36.180 thank you very much. Have a great day. I'll see you tomorrow at 1130.

01:29:57.220 We'll be right back.

Western Standard - February 01, 2022

Triggered： Weekend protests were amazingly well controlled but mainstream media weren’t.

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