Western Standard - TRIGGERED： Will Quebec bring Canada’s universal health system to an end？

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00:00:30.000 Hey, it's January 12th, 2022.

00:00:38.200 Welcome to Triggered.

00:00:39.560 We've survived another day of the plague.

00:00:42.380 I'm Corey Morgan.

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00:01:36.680 have to listen to the entire way along. Hey there, Stacey. We're going to have Michelle Sterling from 0.98

00:01:41.760 the Friends of Science. She wrote a column for us recently about how basically we've got this

00:01:46.720 mass panic that is being fed by the, you know, feeding the climate crisis narrative. Marcel

00:01:53.440 Latouche, if people are familiar with Talk Radio in the past. He was a very popular guest quite

00:01:58.080 often on shows, and he speaks really well, and he's written a number of books on public sector

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00:02:09.060 common sense, and we'll talk about it, particularly City Hall and a number of other things. And then

00:02:13.180 finally, I will have Renaud Broussard. He's the Quebec Director of the Canadian Taxpayers

00:02:18.920 Federation. And we're going to talk about some of that lunacy that's coming out with a tax

00:02:23.700 against the non-vaccinated in Quebec that they're trying to push and see what those tax implications

00:02:29.180 are. I'm looking to get a guest to talk about the legal implications of that tomorrow because this

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00:03:49.040 So what's got me triggered today?

00:03:51.020 Well, Quebec, they look to be ending universal healthcare.

00:03:55.160 And it's not an exaggeration.

00:03:57.220 Universal is an unambiguous and definitive term.

00:04:00.700 It means something affecting or done by all people, things in the world, or in a particular

00:04:05.320 group applicable to all cases.

00:04:07.280 Bottom line, holistic, everybody all the time.

00:04:10.500 In the case of Canada's health care, the term universal is used in reference to coverage,

00:04:14.820 it's an integral part, it's one of the pillars of Canada's Health Act. It means all Canadians

00:04:19.940 will be covered fully for health care, no matter what their circumstances. None should pay more

00:04:25.460 or less than others for care, there's no exceptions. If there's even one exception

00:04:30.660 in the coverage for Canadian citizens under the Health Act, we just don't have a universal health

00:04:34.500 care system anymore. So this is big. Now, if Quebec Premier Francois Legault has his way,

00:04:40.420 universal health care in Canada is going to come to an end. He's blaming the unvaccinated for

00:04:45.360 pressures on Quebec's health care system right now. Hardly a surprise. Unvaccinated people are 0.99

00:04:49.940 the minority most discriminated against in all of Canada right now. I mean, leaders can do anything

00:04:54.040 to them and the docile public will accept it. I mean, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau called

00:04:58.100 unvaccinated people racists, misogynists, and extremists with no repercussions. It's hardly

00:05:02.940 shocking. Somebody like Legault feels emboldened enough to start taking money from this little

00:05:07.040 group, the unvaccinated, through what he's calling health taxes. Whether vaccinated people put more 0.51

00:05:13.280 pressure on the health system or not is irrelevant if the system's going to be universal. What Legault

00:05:18.680 is doing is charging one group an extra amount over another, ostensibly in order to cover health

00:05:24.000 treatment. Labeling it a tax rather than a fee or a fine for not being vaccinated doesn't change

00:05:28.660 the fact that this alters the entire premise of the universal healthcare system. The premier of

00:05:34.160 Quebec is proposing punishing people who are refusing a medical procedure by taking their

00:05:38.700 money. People will no longer be equal in the system. And it seems to be double pasted. I'm

00:05:44.500 going to get farther up on this in a moment. I'm sorry. Here we go. Ah, yes. If this odious plan

00:05:56.400 to punish the unvaccinated does manage to remain in place. It opens the door for all sorts of new 1.00

00:06:00.660 taxes upon people for health irresponsibility. How far do we want to go in punishing people who do

00:06:05.640 things that put more pressure on the healthcare system than others? Obesity. There's the first

00:06:10.340 one that comes to mind. There's no denying obesity contributes to a number of health conditions,

00:06:14.120 which in turn lead to more costs within the system. Heart disease, lung issues, and complications

00:06:19.540 during medical procedures are all more acute with obese people. Obesity is one of the main

00:06:23.840 comorbidities among people who find themselves in the ICU due to COVID-19.

00:06:28.040 It's something manageable for a person, though it is tougher for some than others.

00:06:31.560 Does it make sense to tax the people whose BMI is, you know, body mass index

00:06:36.000 is above the ideal healthy level? Perhaps a few bucks for every pound until they lose the

00:06:39.960 extra weight. A fat tax, if you will. It's for the greater good, right?

00:06:43.940 How about smokers? Sure, they pay a massive amount of tax on their cigarettes already, but a health

00:06:47.920 tax is only appropriate on top of that. Drinkers? Same thing. I mean, those

00:06:51.940 livers go things like that they fall down hit their head we should be charging them extra right

00:06:55.860 what about skiers people who do contact sports i mean sports are healthy but there's lots of

00:07:01.360 exercises with health benefits that don't lead to higher chances of broken bones and concussions

00:07:05.200 like those aforementioned sports do you can do spin classes you can do yoga you can i don't know

00:07:11.320 all sorts of things you can lay around your house and do slowly but we should tax those people who

00:07:15.400 take on such dangerous sports that come in with with broken bones and pulled muscles and things

00:07:18.620 such as that, right? Such a list of people who disproportionately burden the healthcare system

00:07:23.080 wouldn't be complete without mentioning senior citizens. Seniors take up the vast majority of

00:07:28.140 healthcare resources while making up a tiny minority of the population. Well, maybe not tiny,

00:07:31.840 but a minority. Is that fair? How dare they live so long? It's only right that we tax a portion of

00:07:36.660 their pensions to make sure they pay their fair share. I think I've gone on long enough to make

00:07:40.420 my point. Examples are myriad, and nobody would be immune from some sort of tax or another if we

00:07:45.160 start trying to punish every possible unhealthy or dangerous activity. It's not a road we want to go

00:07:50.560 down. We know some people put more burden upon the health care system than others. We know some

00:07:54.800 people find themselves in the hospital at times for completely irresponsible behavior, which could

00:08:00.020 have been avoided. We accept that though, because we know it comes with having a universal health

00:08:04.540 care system. You can't chip away and cherry pick. A system is either universal or it isn't. I'm not

00:08:10.560 opposed to personal responsible accountability at all. If Legault succeeds and manages to shatter

00:08:15.720 the Canadian Health Act, because that's what he's trying to do, I'm certain many private insurers

00:08:19.360 will happily rush in to fill that void. Private insurers, though, of course, they're going to have

00:08:22.960 health conditions. And just like that, just as they do with life insurance or automobiles,

00:08:27.300 you know, they charge people who are at a higher risk a higher price. And that's the road that

00:08:31.460 Legault wants to go upon anyways. But the thing is, at least you'd be able to shop around for

00:08:35.260 coverage. You can negotiate. Right now, it's a government monopoly, and it doesn't allow for

00:08:39.740 that. You have no choice. You can't get your care elsewhere. You can't get your

00:08:43.760 health, you can't pay elsewhere. It's universal, supposedly, or it must be

00:08:49.020 universal. If you're forced into the system, you can't make exceptions. Aside

00:08:53.940 from the threat Legault is presenting to Canada's universal health care system,

00:08:56.920 he's also threatening, of course, the sanctity of free bodily choice. He wants

00:09:00.280 to force medical procedures upon the unwilling. Some might claim that such a

00:09:04.100 tax isn't a use of force. Well, what happens if you refuse to pay? What if you

00:09:07.560 hide your money and ignore the notices of bills and such. Eventually, you're going to be criminally

00:09:11.360 charged with tax evasion, and you could face jail. That's using force, even if a person isn't literally

00:09:17.420 pinned down and having the needle shoved in their arm. They're saying, we're going to bankrupt you

00:09:21.120 and then jail you until you agree to this medication that you don't want. It was laughable

00:09:26.660 when Quebec banned people from walking their dogs after 10 p.m. as a measure to quell COVID-19

00:09:31.340 infections, though I did feel bad for the dogs. It was just another example of a government in a

00:09:35.960 panic, doing idiotic things. This move by Legault, though, to start separating unvaccinated people 1.00

00:09:40.220 and taxing them is something much more serious. The fundamental principle of health care

00:09:44.720 universality is being put at risk by Premier Legault's actions. While I do think we need to

00:09:49.520 completely reform the system, this isn't the way to approach it. Now, will Canadians stand up and

00:09:53.600 oppose this, though, or will they simply back off and let Quebec violate rights yet again, as they

00:09:57.300 have with Bill 21? I suspect we know the answer. If you're looking for another investment, I think

00:10:02.120 it might be a good time to put your money into some private insurance companies. They may have

00:10:06.060 a boom coming in the very near future. That's what's got me triggered today. Now, I'm going to

00:10:12.000 get on and talk to our news editor, Dave Naylor, and I'm certain he's going to have a number of

00:10:15.980 other items that are equally, if not more, triggering for me. So, hey, Dave, how's it

00:10:21.100 going over there. Oh, I'm not hearing Dave. Dave seems to be

00:10:28.840 hearing me.

00:10:31.960 Apparently you have to press that pesky unmute button,

00:10:34.600 Corey.

00:10:35.100 Unmute button. That's one of those things in this post COVID

00:10:38.200 zoom nightmare, hellish world. We'd never want to hear anymore

00:10:41.300 is you're muted. You're muted. You're muted.

00:10:43.660 Exactly. So yeah, I got a lot of stuff that you're going to get

00:10:47.680 It's been a busy morning for the Western Standard newsroom.

00:10:52.680 Our top story at the moment is a heartbreaking story out of Vancouver,

00:10:58.680 where our British Columbia reporter, Reid Small,

00:11:02.680 has got a story about a young family who has a four-year-old boy who is battling leukemia.

00:11:08.680 They are staying at the Ronald McDonald House in Vancouver while the youngster undergoes treatment.

00:11:15.680 and these Ronald McDonald houses, they're all across the country

00:11:19.260 and for years and years they've been doing great work.

00:11:22.740 But now they've said that they're going to kick out unvaccinated children over five

00:11:28.960 and their families who also aren't vaccinated.

00:11:32.760 So this poor youngster is going to be booted out from the home that he's gotten used to

00:11:40.860 while he's undergoing these leukemia treatments.

00:11:43.220 So we've got a video on the site now with the youngster's dad talking to the Ronald McDonald officials and, you know, trying to get his point across.

00:11:53.660 So that's a very emotive story, you know, whichever side of the vaccination argument you land on.

00:12:01.220 And speaking of Quebec, as you were, we've got a few follows on Quebec and more to come throughout the day.

00:12:07.640 Got a story up now on John Carpe. He's the head of the Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms. He says that the day that the Legault government brings in the tax, he will be filing a lawsuit against the province and just basically arguing like you did, Corey, that it's a breach of the Charter of Rights and a breach of the Canada Health Act.

00:12:34.820 We've also got a good column up from our contributor, Dave Makachuk,

00:12:39.940 talking about authoritarian governments.

00:12:42.780 And he had a bit of a run-in with the Calgary City Police

00:12:45.920 storming into his house a few years back.

00:12:49.320 And he's basically saying if it happened to him, it can happen to you

00:12:53.620 if you're not following the government rules.

00:12:59.040 We've got a story on your best friend, Stephen Gilbo.

00:13:02.360 oh you remember him the liberal cabinet minister who for a couple of years was in charge of

00:13:07.960 censoring the internet and he failed to get that done now he's the environment minister

00:13:13.160 and he made a pretty audacious pledge he says he's going to get rid of fossil fuels

00:13:18.200 in two years two years cory uh that drew a basically a laughing response from conservative

00:13:25.960 leader erin o'toole who did a video of himself outside shivering in front of the internal flame

00:13:32.280 in front of the house of commons saying that's ludicrous there's no way he's going to be able

00:13:37.400 to eliminate uh eliminate fossil fuels in uh in two years uh of course uh gilbo is short on details

00:13:46.360 but he does admit that hey it might cost a bit of money well yeah no kidding and uh

00:13:52.760 speaking of the environment we have a story uh on one just one guy a deputy minister of finance

00:14:00.280 who flew to the cop 26 conference in glasgow and he billed taxpayers almost 11 000 to fly

00:14:09.240 fly himself from uh from ottawa to uh to glasgow so i don't know if there's anything ahead of

00:14:16.280 first class but uh if there is i'm sure 11 000 would have put him in that category and and get

00:14:23.240 this corey that's just the first of 276 more air of airfares to come in we had the largest delegation

00:14:31.400 there 277 members uh not even england who could drive up the road to scotland at anywhere near

00:14:38.440 that amount so i think the final travel bill is uh going to be absolutely astronomical the hypocrisy

00:14:45.880 from these climate zealots is is always astounding i mean how do you find an airfare that high i i

00:14:51.320 I mean, did they book themselves the Concorde and dig it out of retirement for this or something?

00:14:55.420 I mean, where do these government guys, I mean, I'm sure the airlines, you know, can feel them coming, right?

00:15:00.560 These guys will just sign off on any airfare where a private person, of course, would, you know, blanch and say, no, that's not happening.

00:15:06.400 Put me in coach.

00:15:08.080 Yeah, I mean, if it was you and I, Corey, trying to fly to Mexico or something like that, we'd be hunting for the deals.

00:15:14.440 You know, we'd say, okay, you know, don't have to feed us, don't have to do anything, just get me there and back how much.

00:15:19.940 But, yeah, you don't have to worry about that if you're a government member.

00:15:22.840 You just click on the first option available and to hell with the taxpayer. 0.97

00:15:29.020 Yeah, well, and their head climate lunatic there, Stephen Gilboa. 0.78

00:15:32.000 I mean, he came to Calgary.

00:15:34.700 I got those pictures of him.

00:15:35.840 I'll have to get those for a future show up there.

00:15:37.660 I mean, you know, when he showed up at the McDougal Centre with his large entourage coming out of an SUV that sat idling outside, it was cold.

00:15:44.720 You want to keep it warm before he's finished his meeting here and marched on in there.

00:15:49.180 I mean, if he's going to talk about ending fossil fuels within two years, which, again, is insane, you'd think he'd start walking the walk by now.

00:15:57.140 But none of these guys ever do, do they?

00:15:59.160 You know, they don't.

00:16:00.240 And think about what would have to happen in two years.

00:16:03.340 I mean, the number of people driving electric cars, I mean, it would have to go crazy.

00:16:08.540 And, you know, you don't see that many electric cars when you're driving around Calgary.

00:16:13.240 And last week when I was in Vancouver, the eco-capital of Canada, there wasn't a lot either.

00:16:19.640 So I think two years is, shall we say, somewhat ambitious.

00:16:24.100 Yeah, to say the least.

00:16:26.320 Well, thanks for bringing me up to date on what you're working on.

00:16:29.240 Is there more stuff breaking this afternoon we can look forward to?

00:16:32.040 Oh, yeah, Corey, the news never stops.

00:16:35.400 Our reporter Mel Rizdin is looking into long-term care situation in Alberta.

00:16:42.220 And it's, as you know, since the start of COVID, which tore a terrible swath through long-term care, they've been struggling.

00:16:52.320 And we're taking another look now at what effect the COVID latest Omicron crisis has had and some interesting results coming out on that this afternoon.

00:17:03.960 And our reporter out of, not a reporter, a demoted or there, a columnist, Linda Slobodin, is going to have an update on the residential grave situation.

00:17:16.200 You remember last year there were several incidents of hundreds of graves each found in former residential schools.

00:17:24.540 I think Kamloops being the one that kicked it off and followed by several others across the country.

00:17:31.260 Terrible, terrible stories.

00:17:32.460 So Linda's going to be updating us with the latest from there.

00:17:35.700 So stay tuned.

00:17:37.700 Great.

00:17:38.100 Well, thanks, Dave.

00:17:39.060 And I'll see you in the newsroom a little later.

00:17:41.380 So yeah, we got to get ready for the pipeline tonight.

00:17:44.860 Lots to talk about there.

00:17:46.460 Oh, yes.

00:17:47.260 It's that reminder to everybody.

00:17:48.500 Yes.

00:17:48.740 Tonight at seven, the pipeline will be coming on.

00:17:50.500 That's where Dave and Derek and I tend to sit down once a week and go over the news stories

00:17:55.300 and try to find subtle ways or not so subtle ways to insult each other.

00:17:59.140 Yeah.

00:17:59.300 I think we'll find some interesting stuff to talk about this week.

00:18:02.460 Great, Dave. Thanks. So, yeah, quite a few things on the go. You know, getting back to the Ronald McDonald House, I mean, that's just tragic because they really do have a good charity. You know, it's a fantastic cause. And for those who aren't familiar with it, it's for families, especially, say, if you lived outside of a major city, they've got a big facility outside of the Children's Hospital.

00:18:25.880 If your child has to have a lot of treatment and things going on and you're spending extended periods at the hospital, it puts a huge financial burden upon parents.

00:18:34.020 But you want to stay as close to your child as possible and maintain as much normalcy as possible.

00:18:38.440 So Ronald McDonald houses allow families to reside close to the hospital and keeps it affordable.

00:18:45.460 And now that they've pulled this where they're evicting, you know, children who haven't fit the vaccine definition, it's just so sad to see such a good charity screwing itself like this and harming the children.

00:18:59.180 I mean, the bigger priority right now is the treatment of that child.

00:19:02.420 I mean, we know from the numbers, vaccination for COVID-19 is not the highest priority in keeping kids safe.

00:19:08.360 When we've got a child being treated for leukemia, that treatment is most important.

00:19:11.900 And the proximity with that child's family, of course, in something this serious.

00:19:16.420 So that's just awful to see.

00:19:17.560 And as I said, I like to give a lot of credit to McDonald's for founding and doing that fantastic service and charity.

00:19:24.260 But to see them, you know, making a mess of it like this, it's just so sick of this bloody pandemic. 1.00

00:19:29.440 I'm sick of the idiot responses to it. 1.00

00:19:31.020 I'm sick of the damage people are doing to each other with it. 1.00

00:19:33.760 I'm just sick of it.

00:19:34.960 And I'm afraid we're not out of it for a while yet.

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00:21:25.520 let's bring Michelle Sterling in. I've had Michelle on before and it's always great talking 1.00

00:21:31.280 to her. How are you doing, Michelle? I'm good, thank you. Oh, I better unveil a crystal ball

00:21:37.620 here since we're in the new year. I have to keep it covered, otherwise it'll start a fire if the

00:21:42.960 sunlight hits it. Oh, well, yeah, speaking of science, you know, getting magnifying in prisms,

00:21:49.560 yeah, you can cause some heat or, well, getting onto the common subject, the greenhouse effect.

00:21:55.660 but uh for now we're talking about i guess uh climate panic uh you know you wrote a column on

00:22:02.420 this recently talking about that and then some of the censorship that's gone on for for people

00:22:07.000 who speak to it so maybe if you want to kind of run down what you wrote for us there that's

00:22:10.520 available on westernstandardonline.com by the way well uh basically uh you know recently uh

00:22:18.980 Dr. Malone was deplatformed, and so was Joe Rogan, and they did an interview about the COVID situation, and they said the magic words mass formation psychosis, which is a term coined by Matthias Desmet, who's a professor of psychology at the University of Ghent in Belgium.

00:22:48.980 And so they were talking about the fact that there are many bizarre policies associated with COVID and, you know, that for many people, the fear has risen to such a level that, you know, incomprehensible kind of suggestions are being made about the vaccinated, the unvaccinated, about the future, about, you know, in fact, right now,

00:23:16.600 understand the unions in Alberta are demanding a circuit breaker lockdown. So, you know, this,

00:23:26.360 these are not rational public policies. And Lieutenant Colonel Redmond has shown that

00:23:32.040 lockdown was never ever part of pandemic management. But my article really relates to

00:23:38.680 the climate emergency, because, you know, people are not able to see that nonsensical,

00:23:45.240 hysterical mass formation psychosis that's really inherent in the climate emergency and in fact

00:23:53.240 there's even a plan written by a woman named margaret uh klein solomon who's a clinical

00:23:59.240 psychologist and it's called leading the public into emergency mode so she actually uh writes in

00:24:07.720 her plan that uh i just made some notes here that um that you know this is an emergency and when

00:24:16.040 people get into emergency uh heightened emergency thinking it's contagious so uh she wrote this in

00:24:25.240 2014 and she advised people you know in these different climate groups to just get into

00:24:31.720 emergency mode because it would make other people feel fearful and they would respond accordingly

00:24:39.480 so you know just like shouting fire in a crowded theater you know people trumpet out the door well

00:24:46.440 that's exactly what happened with climate emergency and we see similar kinds of elements

00:24:54.760 happening in the COVID crisis as well. And, you know, COVID is a real thing. People do die from

00:25:02.040 it. It is dangerous for many people, but many of the policies that we see are just as nonsensical

00:25:08.840 as the climate policies, because they're all based on this heightened emergency thinking

00:25:13.640 rather than calm, rational, thoughtful consideration of the many needs of public policy. 0.95

00:25:20.840 yeah and that's a problem like you'd mentioned Greta Thunberg of course is a popular figure for 1.00

00:25:27.840 for pushing climate change and she said outright she wants people to panic which is a ridiculous

00:25:33.520 thing to ask but I mean it was almost a moment of being candid but I mean we know in life one

00:25:38.680 of the worst times to make important decisions on anything is when you're in a panic when you're in

00:25:43.780 an emergency and you're panicking it means you're running around like a chicken with your head cut

00:25:46.960 off and you are not going to make a wise choice on how to rectify that so we should be saying

00:25:52.240 let's not panic but let's be concerned let's look at this rationally let's look at this calmly but

00:25:57.280 the the climate hysterics and the uh covet hysterics want us to panic which only of course leads to bad

00:26:02.880 policy right and uh as you mentioned about greta uh two of the phrases or the whole scenario that

00:26:12.160 Margaret Klein-Solomon the clinical psychologist came up with is imagine that your house is on fire

00:26:18.320 you know and our house is on fire I want you to panic these are the words that Greta parroted

00:26:25.040 and people around the world fell into this mesmerizing climate hysteria and followed her

00:26:31.520 now you know in April of 2021 I think it was even on Earth Day Greta testified to the U.S. Congress

00:26:39.600 and congressman norman asked her so what's the science behind your phrase i want you to panic

00:26:46.380 and she said oh well there's no science behind that it was just a metaphor i don't literally

00:26:51.620 want anyone to panic well you know there are people who can't sleep at night there are children

00:26:57.380 who are terrified that they won't live to grow up to be an adult uh they there are families that

00:27:05.500 have completely changed their lifestyle because they think that the house is on fire that our

00:27:11.220 planet is heating up and that's not what the data shows and there's Greta telling us that hey there's

00:27:17.560 no science behind that comment that was just a metaphor you know yeah well I can't think of a

00:27:23.620 more panicked reaction than to have your top policymakers all sit down and take seriously

00:27:29.100 the thoughts of a 17 year old girl on a serious big issue I mean come on when I was 17 I was 0.99

00:27:34.980 thinking of uh partying and meeting as many other 17 year olds of the the the opposite gender to do

00:27:40.740 whatever i would uh and i'm certain that there's a lot of teenagers who do i mean they're smart and

00:27:45.240 they're thinking of deep things but this is you need some life experience before we get on with

00:27:48.860 these things yet we made her the the figure we're supposed to listen to on determining policy that's

00:27:54.340 it's absurd well and if you look behind the scenes there's a very good book by left-wing blogger and

00:28:00.760 journalist uh cory morgan's morning star very similar name to you but uh and it's called the

00:28:08.200 manufacturing of greta thunberg and it's about how these um carbon offset investors

00:28:15.560 including al gore of course but uh ingmar rentsman rents hog and all these uh swedish

00:28:22.920 uh participants in a company called we don't have time uh they were were backing her effectively 0.60

00:28:30.120 she was the um walking native advertisement for their push to have everyone in the world

00:28:37.720 participate in carbon offset trading and they even created all these little apps and you know you

00:28:43.240 could uh love bomb or hate bomb companies for their climate friendliness and stuff like that

00:28:51.640 so you know the the whole mass psychosis of climate really stems from this psychologist's

00:28:59.960 um you know plan to scare the pants off people and it worked you know and it's terrible like we

00:29:07.400 should disassemble it right now and go back to normal because you know now we see the media are

00:29:14.120 picking up on every extreme weather event and and crying oh well you know look at all the flooding

00:29:19.560 in bc that's because of climate change no it's because of poor maintenance of the dike system

00:29:25.560 there these atmospheric rivers are very common in that part of the world and in fact in 1861-62

00:29:34.280 in sacramento they had 43 days of rain biblical rainfall that was an atmospheric river that just

00:29:43.080 parked over that region so it's not about climate change these are extreme weather events they have

00:29:48.120 nothing to do with climate change and yes humans do affect climate but um it's nominal compared to

00:29:55.320 what mother nature can do oh yeah we gotta get realistic i mean the only difference is now we

00:29:59.720 can see it now we can live stream it it can look a lot more scary we can see it real time i mean

00:30:03.960 you know 80 years ago you read about it in a newspaper a week later and it was hard to relate

00:30:07.640 you didn't see the horror somebody was dealing with in a in a weather event or or things such

00:30:12.040 as that and everything's blamed on climate change now i mean roberta shelton is a commenter here

00:30:16.120 here says don't forget about the doctor in bc who diagnosed a woman with climate change yes

00:30:20.020 climate change made her sick apparently and uh yesterday i thought it was the onion i thought

00:30:24.940 it was one of those you know parody sites but no it was ctv oh one of canada's top broadcasters

00:30:30.520 actually had a headline article saying that it's been discovered that climate change will increase

00:30:35.300 kidney stones so yeah it it does everything and again you know i'd expect this out of

00:30:41.120 Greta. I would expect this out of Gilboa and other lunatics. But wow, one of our biggest 0.96

00:30:46.720 broadcasters in the country, and that's what you put out, is that climate change is going to give

00:30:50.960 you kidney stones. I mean, the leap these guys are making, if they really want to get on with it,

00:30:56.940 I guess, yeah, let's just say climate change will cause impotence because we know little blue pills

00:31:01.220 are worth a lot of money in this world. And we know what people find is important or not important

00:31:05.180 in the real long run. Well, this is how many of these researchers get funding because you just

00:31:10.600 put climate change in your document and then you can access the climate funding and you know there's

00:31:16.760 a very good paper by um uh matthew nisbet and he writes about how all these big philanthropies

00:31:24.920 have been pumping something like 600 million dollars a year into these engio charities

00:31:31.160 worldwide and um and on top of that these individual philanthropies who are associated

00:31:38.280 with the climate works groups have pumped in their own hundreds billions of dollars and many times

00:31:44.840 because if they're a charity that's been matched either by um citizens or or uh other tax paying

00:31:53.800 bodies like municipal governments federal governments provincial governments

00:31:58.360 so you know billions of dollars have been pumped into this and uh a lot of the academic funding

00:32:04.120 comes from these guys uh and and also they they've also funded media you know tides funded uh the

00:32:11.240 toronto star for a six month campaign in the lead up to the paris agreement um claiming they had no

00:32:19.320 editorial control oh yeah sure they didn't probably have editorial control but you know who pays the 0.84

00:32:25.640 piper calls and it's not just ideologues and people who are concerned and uh hairy armpitted hippies

00:32:32.920 who want to change things, there's a lot of money in this industry. It's a sub-industry

00:32:37.940 unto itself. I mean, some researchers, they may want to go into other things, but they

00:32:41.980 know if you're not going to pitch it to the school of something really hysteric and important,

00:32:46.760 you're probably not going to get the funding. So you don't even apply for those things in

00:32:50.820 the first place. Or I think of that massive multinational corporation worth hundreds of

00:32:56.040 millions of dollars that we call Greenpeace. When they're going to the door and rattling

00:33:00.100 their cup and asking people to give them money they don't come up and say you know well we kind

00:33:04.500 of want to sort of save the darting snail over in this spot or or you know stop a little bit

00:33:08.820 of logging over here i mean they want to scare the hell out of you they're going to say your

00:33:12.340 kids are going to fry like an ant under a magnifying glass if you don't donate to us

00:33:16.820 right now and and they sell the fear and as you said it's contagious i mean it's it's a monetarily

00:33:22.340 based uh strategy on the part of a lot of these organizations and people yes it's and the thing is

00:33:29.860 you know once you've set this up like if you start a little uh group like our group is run

00:33:35.460 by volunteers and you know we have a handful of contracted services i'm one of them but

00:33:41.780 generally speaking we operate on volunteer power and about 150 000 a year from our members

00:33:49.380 who are also subscribers to our newsletters so um you know that that's an inconsequential amount

00:33:56.820 the Deloitte report that was an adjunct to the Allen inquiry found that these top 31

00:34:06.820 NGOs in Canada had accumulated millions of dollars of assets and they also got 2.1 billion dollars

00:34:17.300 in money from governments and most of them are already tax subsidized charities but these groups

00:34:23.060 now have a huge number of employees and they have to find a way to keep paying them you know so they

00:34:31.300 ramp up the fear all the time to get more donations um and you know this is something

00:34:36.340 that patrick moore told me in an interview that i did with him where he said you know you start

00:34:40.900 off with a little volunteer group and then you start adding some services and then all of a

00:34:46.420 of a sudden you got to meet payroll. So what do you do? Ratchet up the fear. Yeah, it's a technique.

00:34:54.300 And then again, we can't forget a lot of people benefit from it. I mean, we saw recently the

00:34:57.960 Association for the Manufacturer of Electric Vehicles was demanding the government put a

00:35:03.520 tax on SUVs of $4,000 each. I mean, the self-interest out of these guys just reeks,

00:35:09.860 but that's what they're out and about to do. And I mean, hey, I'm a capitalist. I believe in

00:35:14.660 self-interest, but that's crony capitalism. That's sick. You're supposed to be selling us on why your

00:35:18.760 vehicles are better so that consumers choose to get them, not getting the government to punish

00:35:22.560 other vehicle owners on your behalf. But again, when we've got the kind of maniacs we have in

00:35:26.660 charge of the environment like Gilboa, these lobbyists are probably going to have actually

00:35:30.460 a good impact, unfortunately, for themselves. Well, you know, and the big problem with this,

00:35:35.280 especially speaking of EVs, is that, you know, we need 10,000 megawatts additional power generation

00:35:43.300 to meet the policies that were in place in 2019.

00:35:46.760 10,000 megawatts, that's like eight site C dams.

00:35:50.620 Now, these projects take at least 20 to 30 years to get going.

00:35:56.120 You know, you've got to finance them.

00:35:57.520 You've got to find the right site.

00:35:59.260 You've got to commission all the materials,

00:36:01.660 do the environmental impact process.

00:36:05.120 We don't even have one on the table right now.

00:36:07.940 And, of course, the thinking is that, oh, well,

00:36:10.380 we can then connect Quebec hydro with you know BC hydro and we'll just electrify the country

00:36:17.180 but people don't realize that Quebec hydro doesn't even have enough power for all of their own

00:36:22.940 vehicles at the peak of winter demand if they all went to EV there so you know it's not going

00:36:30.140 to be able to run the country so the real risk is that we'll get halfway down the road on this kind

00:36:34.940 of a project and get stuck when everything will be broken we'll all be poor and we'll be sitting

00:36:42.060 in the dark because of these poorly thought out policies based on margaret klein solomon's climate

00:36:48.860 emergency yeah we're seeing that in europe right now and they're in the midst of a an energy

00:36:53.820 emergency actually and they're short on it and uh you know they went and put a bunch of money and

00:36:58.060 resources into windmills and solar and they shut down their their coal plants and now they're

00:37:04.540 cap in hand begging russia to send them more natural gas and they're burning coal and they're

00:37:08.380 doing everything they can to keep the lights on right now like guys if we're gonna go to the

00:37:12.380 alternative great but we have to build the alternative before we get rid of the current

00:37:16.860 source and these climate lunatics want to skip that and it's just not realistic

00:37:21.100 yeah not at all realistic i mean you know we have um uh a piece that robert lyman did that's on our

00:37:28.620 blog called inconvenient facts for climate activists and it shows from the from natural

00:37:36.540 resources canada from their report that 79 of the energy used in canada is from fossil fuels

00:37:44.300 and only one percent comes from wind and solar so you know this is not something you can flip

00:37:51.100 overnight and in fact you know alberta had the first wind farm in canada in 1993 so

00:37:57.740 this has been going on for a long time and it hasn't fulfilled the expectation and we know

00:38:03.260 during the christmas holidays here when it was minus 30 and 40 across the province

00:38:08.620 wind was putting out nothing like and solar was invisible because it was overcast so

00:38:15.580 can't do it yeah well thank you for writing on it and reporting on it and for coming on

00:38:20.700 the show to join us and talk about it today michelle uh where can we find more information

00:38:24.460 on what you and your organization are up to and, you know, how can they help you out?

00:38:29.660 Yeah, you can go to our main website, which is friendsofscience.org. You can look at our

00:38:36.940 youth-oriented website, which is climatechange101.ca, and that's in French and English.

00:38:44.380 And it's kind of more of a plain language version, whereas our main site is more scientific.

00:38:48.660 we're on Facebook, we're on LinkedIn, we're on Twitter, very active on Twitter and Instagram

00:38:55.440 and YouTube. Of course, we've got lots of YouTube videos. And if people haven't filled out their

00:39:01.320 net zero 2030 consultation, do it today. It's online. This is your chance to tell the government

00:39:08.560 what you want to see. Otherwise they're going to turn the world upside down and you'll be

00:39:13.320 in heat or eat poverty in no time flat. Great. Well, thanks, Michelle, and keep fighting the

00:39:18.860 good fight. I'm certain we'll be talking again soon. Thanks very much, Corey.

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00:41:06.040 You know, the lunacy just keeps going on and on.

00:41:10.680 And it just can't seem to be countered, right?

00:41:12.500 You know, and it is a mass madness.

00:41:15.120 And when somebody referenced it, as she was saying, on the Joe Rogan show,

00:41:19.280 it got canceled for it.

00:41:20.460 You're not even allowed to talk about this.

00:41:21.960 But it is.

00:41:22.400 It's a mass psychosis.

00:41:23.920 And it's causing people to act irrationally.

00:41:28.340 That's when, you know, again, the big subject lately is mandatory vaccinations.

00:41:31.240 It's insane.

00:41:32.780 People are pushing for that.

00:41:33.920 And you see some of the polls that come out.

00:41:35.720 asking the general public, do you think it's a good idea? And it's an astounding amount of

00:41:39.540 people say yes. I mean, people who we would have thought had more common sense, had more

00:41:45.080 compassion and more of a realistic idea about things are saying, yeah, yeah, I think the

00:41:49.620 government should force my neighbors to undergo a medication that they don't want. That's mass

00:41:55.000 insanity. That's panic. I mean, again, you know, and I debate my Twitter followers and people on

00:42:01.560 hear a lot with that. Hey, I'm pro vaccine. I do think vaccines are a lot of the reason why

00:42:06.420 people aren't, you know, they're getting infected, but they aren't necessarily getting so sick that

00:42:10.100 they need hospitalization or ICU. And I know it's debatable things, but I will never for a second

00:42:14.120 support forcing somebody else to get a vaccine. I want to reason with them. I want to talk with

00:42:19.760 them and hope that they choose to get it. And if they don't, so be it, we will work around it. I

00:42:24.540 would rather they have that freedom to choose and not interfere on that, then, you know, and take a

00:42:29.800 little bit of risk that they might end up in the hospital. That's their choice to make, not mine.

00:42:33.320 But with this mass panic, this mass fear, we're turning citizens against citizens. I mean, what

00:42:38.320 a dangerous place to be in a country at any time. When you take a minority group and you have 1.00

00:42:43.500 leadership like Trudeau demonizing them, calling them all sorts of names, and you got Legault now

00:42:49.560 looking to actually fine and punish them. Like, this is not good, guys. This is not good for our

00:42:54.020 society. This is not good for ourselves. You know, this Omicron thing's been going on now since

00:42:58.120 before Christmas, they've been telling us the panic mongers, and they are panic porn mongers.

00:43:02.760 And CTV News, since I brought them up earlier, they're one of the worst of them. I don't know

00:43:06.700 why. Well, I got to stay up on the news. So I torture myself. I go home and suffer,

00:43:10.560 and it keeps my appetite down so I don't get too overweight. And I watch the CTV News. And boy,

00:43:15.300 they just, everything's negative, negative, negative, scary, scary, scary. Every possible

00:43:19.700 expert they can find to see that the world's going to come to an end soon. And when they're

00:43:23.540 done with that, they'll find somebody to talk about their long COVID, of course, because we

00:43:27.060 finding anybody really harmed by it you rarely find doctors talk about it because most of the

00:43:30.580 time and i'm sure long covet exists in a few individuals i know but for a lot of them they're

00:43:35.700 the same ones who had fibromyalgia or chronic fatigue syndrome or whatever else these were

00:43:41.220 hypochondriacs who always had something and that's why you don't have a lot of doctors behind these

00:43:45.220 people necessarily but it doesn't matter ctv wants fear fear fear so they're going to push that and

00:43:49.380 they're going to keep giving it to you like that i want optimism i'm seeing reports of tens of

00:43:54.420 thousands maybe hundreds of thousands of covet 19 infections of the omicron variant and what have

00:44:00.820 we gotten icu in alberta a province of 4.2 million people 80 people in the icu and what we got hammer

00:44:08.340 head gill mcgowan of the alberta federation of labor saying we got a lockdown he's nuts uh we

00:44:15.300 also have a number though of uh unions saying we need this circuit breaker lockdown of course you

00:44:19.140 see their members get paid whether they sit at home or not let me know i and a lot of union

00:44:22.660 members don't do a hell of a lot when they show up at work either some do work hard i understand

00:44:26.340 that but it's easy to call for lockdowns and circuit breakers when your bills are paid already

00:44:32.820 but for the people who end up getting put out of work over and over again for people whose

00:44:37.300 companies and businesses are crushed by this people whose social events are ruined by this

00:44:42.180 this is a big deal how many funerals have we seen in the last two years for people that only had

00:44:46.660 five people attending i went to one of them funerals are depressing enough as it is but

00:44:50.820 But to send somebody off, and there was only five of us

00:44:52.980 because you're only allowed to have that many

00:44:54.280 at the service at that time.

00:44:56.000 You only get one funeral, you only get one marriage,

00:44:59.360 you only get one christening, all these events,

00:45:00.940 these life turning events that we're putting off,

00:45:02.580 putting off, there's some of them you can't put off.

00:45:05.520 And these lockdowns, these circuit breakers aren't harmless.

00:45:09.180 We can't pretend they don't have an impact

00:45:10.660 upon other people.

00:45:12.220 But the unions pretend it, the panic mongers pretend it. 0.68

00:45:15.380 You know, crazy NDP Joe Vipond, 0.96

00:45:18.020 the go-to, biased, crazed doctor. 0.96

00:45:21.160 He wants to lock us down all the time.

00:45:22.880 I think we would have been locked up for two solid years

00:45:24.940 if Joe had his way.

00:45:26.520 And boy, he's an important man.

00:45:27.700 You never see him without his scrubs on.

00:45:29.220 That's the fun thing with Joe Vipon.

00:45:30.780 Why does nobody ever question...

00:45:31.740 Well, we question him on Twitter and that.

00:45:33.580 But it's political theater.

00:45:35.280 I mean, every interview he does,

00:45:36.720 there's even one where he had his stethoscope

00:45:37.940 hanging on his neck.

00:45:38.900 I'm surprised he didn't have

00:45:39.620 some little tongue depressors there. 1.00

00:45:41.740 I mean, let's be thankful he wasn't a gynecologist 1.00

00:45:44.020 or he'd be holding his speculum up all the time 0.99

00:45:46.760 when he's talking at the interview.

00:45:48.020 why do you need that stuff why do you need props because you're still in fear we know your doctor

00:45:53.860 we saw the dr in front of your name didn't need you in uniform for it but this is who the media

00:45:59.200 goes to and uh this is who people listen to i mean you know that's part of why and i'm gonna

00:46:05.220 do a little more self-serving things reminding go to westernstandardonline.com help us you know i

00:46:11.660 mean we rely on those subscribers that's what gives us that base so we can keep making this 0.96

00:46:15.800 information and doing it because again we're not going to feed you that kind of garbage like the

00:46:20.080 ctv or the tax-funded cbc or some of those newspapers you know the toronto globe the toronto

00:46:26.120 star the red star we're not like that uh you know you listen to dave naylor earlier we're professionals

00:46:31.940 we've got news people we're on stories you know we're not like some of the there's a lot of

00:46:36.720 alternative news sources online too that they just cut and paste releases and stick them out and call

00:46:40.860 them news stories and it's just for content we don't do that there's real reporters in here

00:46:44.780 they're really following up on stories they're really talking to people so please don't keep

00:46:48.560 supporting us and again the more of those we get the more we can prove to our advertisers that uh

00:46:55.120 hey we're providing a service you know we're getting out to people to listen to them and it's

00:46:57.780 just a nice big cycle and we can help keep everybody a little better educated yeah nico

00:47:01.680 pulled that up showing the evidence of skewed covet 19 numbers across canada uh eva wrote that

00:47:07.420 story on on western center online.com and uh yes like those numbers i've been talking about that

00:47:12.640 for days. This difference between whether they're with COVID or of COVID, like when they're in the

00:47:19.800 hospital. And we've got top health officials admitting they're saying that more than half

00:47:26.420 of the people reporting as COVID cases in the hospital actually came in for different causes.

00:47:32.020 Well, let's get on this. This is important. I mean, if we're looking at shutting down the world

00:47:37.220 because of hospital capacity, let's get the real numbers. If that's the case, lockdowns won't make

00:47:42.520 a lick of difference. The problem is the system. And that's what a lot of people don't like talking

00:47:47.160 about. I mean, Canada's healthcare capacity was always sitting around 90% full all the time

00:47:53.120 anyways. So yeah, it didn't take a hell of a lot to tip us into the danger zone. And so again,

00:48:00.280 when we're making policies, we've got to base it on the realistic numbers. They know these numbers

00:48:05.140 aren't real. Deanna Hinshaw, doctor, our government's talk doctor said she can't figure out, she doesn't

00:48:10.080 know how. She knows that the numbers aren't reflecting it, but she says they don't know

00:48:15.960 how to figure it out. I don't get that. Why can't you? You know why you brought somebody in. You

00:48:20.180 write that down. You check it off somewhere. There's got to be statistics. But again, they

00:48:24.040 want to keep the fear going. Keep everybody afraid. We want to keep that narrative. The

00:48:28.260 hospitals are bursting at the seams. Cheryl was asking about the synopsis of Kenny's Q&A last

00:48:34.120 night. Yeah, he did a Facebook live thing, I believe, last night or something like that.

00:48:38.320 But, you know, to be honest, and as she said, she doesn't trust the MSM and I don't blame her.

00:48:43.260 That's one of the things I do like that Kenny and some of the others are doing.

00:48:45.860 I mean, that's one of the good things with social media.

00:48:47.500 You can bypass the, you know, the mainstream media at least and watch those things.

00:48:51.420 You might not agree with what he's saying and everything, but it is a good way to reach out to voters and people without having to filter through those media organizations.

00:48:58.820 I have, you know, reached out to Kenny and try and get him on.

00:49:01.100 You know, he's spoken to me in the past, but not lately because we've been a little rough on him.

00:49:04.780 but you know, we're certainly favorable as well in talking with things. But yeah, if you look at

00:49:11.120 his Facebook page, I imagine the whole video is probably there and you can see in detail what

00:49:15.440 exactly he said. So I got my next guest on deck. I'm going to get to him pretty quickly here. I

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00:50:24.800 So I've got Marcel Latouche on deck.

00:50:27.060 Marcel is an author, and he's been a very vocal and well-spoken individual when it comes to policy issues within Canada, particularly civic affairs.

00:50:39.440 But he speaks to all of them because government is government, and he's the head of the Institute for Public Sector Accountability, and he's had a number of other hats on as well.

00:50:46.840 So let's bring him in here.

00:50:48.940 Hey, Marcel, how are you doing?

00:50:50.660 Good morning.

00:50:51.740 Oh, good afternoon.

00:50:54.460 Yeah, we're into the afternoon now.

00:50:56.340 long time here to you glad to be with you and speak to your uh listeners yeah well i thought

00:51:01.620 i'd give you a break you know let you get through the holidays and everything i know you were very

00:51:04.820 busy during the civic election which unfortunately really led to uh i think a backwards step uh in in

00:51:10.340 our uh civic government unfortunately but uh uh well have a cool down time and some time to think

00:51:16.740 about things and uh digest them and now is the time to talk about well i'll throw you an easy

00:51:22.340 question to start. What can we look forward to out of this mayor and council in Calgary in the next

00:51:27.060 three and three quarter years? Well, unfortunately, we've already seen that she's put both feet in

00:51:37.040 her mouth. I mean, you know, and it's going to be a really long three years. I've never been a fan 1.00

00:51:44.940 of uh chief of staff and is already stepped in and created problems for her the problem that i

00:51:53.660 have is that i want to know how a majority elected councillors by the unions are going

00:52:01.500 to look after calgarians that's what really worries me also at counselor demand which is now perhaps

00:52:11.420 the leader of the so-called conservative group there, how is he going to navigate this council?

00:52:21.280 I mean, I have a lot of faith in Shabo McLean, and one person I did not support is Councillor

00:52:28.140 Sharp, who has proven that she's really, really sharp and has been questioning some of the

00:52:34.640 decisions by by the mayor i look forward to some of those five people that lead calgary

00:52:44.000 he was able to a counselor shop will join the free in this from time to time and put a stop to what

00:52:50.480 is going on we have already started here with this mayor with uh closed door meetings and

00:52:57.200 non-participation of certain decisions by counselors and so on and so forth so personally

00:53:03.680 i am an optimist but uh in this case i am not too optimistic about what's going to happen

00:53:11.120 to calgary as a whole uh and uh we've started with the uh calgary entertainment

00:53:20.240 centered and

00:53:26.320 looks like we've had a bit of connection issues but i think you said yeah the first big issue that's

00:53:30.160 really hit us is that uh event center debacle we've got going on uh you know it's part of a

00:53:35.600 past administration that got us into it now we got the current administration that seems to have

00:53:40.240 flushed it down the toilet at a great expense but a lot of people don't want to give up on it

00:53:44.160 it looks like the council's talking now about trying to move back into coming up with something

00:53:48.640 i mean is there something they could do or should do in this

00:53:50.960 well to a an entertainment center i was always opposed to how it was being funded 50 by the city

00:54:03.840 of calgary is not a good thing although people say to me that the arena will be owned by the city of

00:54:10.320 calgary i don't really like that because i mean maintenance at the future years and all this

00:54:14.960 the risk is too great i think there are other alternatives out there

00:54:20.160 this morning i tried to post something on my facebook page with regards to how many

00:54:29.760 in a different manner and many arenas in canada have been financed with less public money from

00:54:37.200 the city they have received money obviously from the province from the feds but the fact remains

00:54:42.960 is that the city didn't have to put that much money.

00:54:46.100 The problem that I have with all this is that when people say to me,

00:54:49.660 oh, this is going to be an anchor and it's going to bring taxes,

00:54:53.380 it's going to bring revenues.

00:54:54.940 I agree.

00:54:56.340 Let's start from this point.

00:54:58.240 There is no revenue being generated at all.

00:55:03.400 To give incentives for people to build the arena,

00:55:07.880 it would be a better way than using taxpayers' money.

00:55:11.540 This is what I'm saying to you.

00:55:12.960 We could do municipal tax-free bonds, so participants will be Calgarians, ordinary participants could invest in it.

00:55:22.980 That will reduce the risk of the city.

00:55:25.620 That will reduce the amount of taxpayers' money that's being used.

00:55:30.060 The other part we do is we use incentives.

00:55:32.580 We give anybody in that area, of any development in that area, a tax break for the first five years.

00:55:44.360 Then you reduce, for the next five years, you reduce their tax break by, say, 50% or a percentage.

00:55:50.840 So we collect the revenues, but we don't get taxpayers' money being involved in the first place.

00:55:56.400 Because once you put a tax increase on the citizens of Calgary, there is never a reduction.

00:56:04.880 It will be an accumulation of tax, whereas if you do it my way, you have no taxation ceiling.

00:56:19.120 You have a floor, so therefore you can move forward.

00:56:22.820 there are alternatives out there and i have i have said that we can do it differently but the

00:56:30.020 mayor made a huge mistake she went in there and whether people agree or not they said oh it was

00:56:36.900 only 1.5 increase uh on on the cost of of uh developing this is a climate change uh policy

00:56:49.300 added cost and as business is is is there today we have inflation we have in a major economic

00:56:57.940 downturn we don't even know how we are going to come out of it business people involved in this

00:57:03.540 deal are saying the risk is too great they just get an escape hatch and they took it and she gave

00:57:10.020 it to them i mean you know the deal is a deal the other problem i have is when you make a deal you

00:57:17.860 don't break it because you're going to lose trust how many businesses in the future are going to

00:57:24.420 start thinking about doing business in calgary because of the lack of trust

00:57:33.060 well that's it i mean investment needs stability i mean and trust in order to keep going on they're

00:57:37.700 looking at the long game and if the uh city administration is going to keep changing the

00:57:41.620 terms down the road well it's just a bad investment whether it doesn't matter whether it's one percent

00:57:46.100 or 10 it's the principle of it i mean if you give in now she's going to ask for more later and as

00:57:52.500 you said yeah we need to facilitate a positive business climate and let the investors take the

00:57:57.460 risk and uh you know the city taxpayers can help along the way but not through risk investment sort

00:58:03.860 of thing absolutely we we are in a very dangerous situation right now not only in calgary or in the

00:58:13.540 province the world is at a stage where we don't know how we are going to get out of these lockdowns

00:58:21.140 on an international and global basis so we've got to rethink when the globalists and the liberal

00:58:27.860 people are talking about a reset we as citizens have got to be extremely careful what the reset

00:58:35.300 means a reset doesn't mean that government takes charge of every business doesn't mean that the

00:58:42.180 government gets more control of private industries for instance going to on on the this climate change

00:58:50.420 issue when we elect production by renewable uh resources we are going to have a serious problem

00:59:00.660 because you see there are not many private companies who are going to go into renewable

00:59:05.380 resources to provide us with electricity because you know as you well well know wind is not constant

00:59:13.940 the sun is not the sunshine is not constant so we are going to have a lull in in the production

00:59:19.860 of electricity how are we going to cope with this people have got to really think about what this

00:59:25.300 called transition from view of you we are going to have some serious problems in in coming years

00:59:35.540 interest rates are going to go up so how are we going to finance businesses many small businesses

00:59:41.480 actually you you were one of them who are affected by this uh this this pandemic i mean so many

00:59:48.820 restaurants i mean i wanted to go out last saturday with my wife we couldn't find a place

00:59:54.980 that was really open for our choice that we were looking for. How long can the small business

01:00:01.860 restaurants and small businesses continue in this past? We have all the Greek alphabet

01:00:12.820 of the pandemic and we are still not going to go out. This is very, very dangerous.

01:00:19.460 calgarians i see this morning i see a poll coming out saying 60 percent of canadians believe that

01:00:29.700 unvaccinated should be charged a tax just like as proposed by quebec what is going on with canadians 0.99

01:00:37.780 are they stupid or what i mean we cannot just allow government to tax us for everything 0.99

01:00:44.020 i mean giving absurd absurd i mean you know you give government the opportunity to put another 1.00

01:00:53.140 tax what are we doing in this country we've got idiots governing this this country all over the 0.99

01:01:00.900 place and we keep giving them more power as opposed to give power more to the people it's it's 0.99

01:01:09.140 Yeah, it's a frightening and disturbing trend, but I mean, you know, you've been working to at least expose the idiots and hopefully, you know, we can push and pull and try to change public opinion from some of these panicked approaches they're taking to things. Before I let you go, I mean, what are you working on lately, Marcel, and where can we find more information on what you're doing?

01:01:31.200 uh right now i'm not working on anything i'm just watching the stage how it develops before i do

01:01:38.000 anything i'm just watching what is going on at the provincial level i'm watching what is going

01:01:43.440 on at the federal level uh i will be talking because i think we are going to enter in the

01:01:51.120 provincial arena some very difficult times here with perhaps a change in leadership uh a change

01:01:58.400 in government perhaps uh because of some of the boondoggles of of the ucp we shall have to see

01:02:04.480 what happens but right now i'm just uh not just taking a break i'm just buying my time doing some

01:02:10.640 research finding out what's going on before i come out and do something but it's always nice talking

01:02:16.240 to you and i hope your listeners uh take some advice here be very careful what you agree with

01:02:24.880 the government about anything because you keep keep giving government more power they will never

01:02:31.840 relinquish it and be very careful because it's happening in the states they are trying to get

01:02:37.840 more autocratic uh the the people at the highest level of the finance world are beginning to play

01:02:47.840 very difficult you know different game nowadays and giving more power to government is not what

01:02:53.680 we want we want less power to government which means less taxes for us the citizens well i really

01:03:01.760 appreciate that thanks for coming on briefly to talk to me today i hope we can uh talk again

01:03:06.320 sometime soon we'll have a lot more definitive to speak of as our governments move through this so

01:03:10.560 thanks again and we'll talk soon marcel always a pleasure

01:03:16.560 great yeah marcel was having a little bit of a rough time of the connection there but we got

01:03:19.920 got most of what he was saying, and he always speaks a lot of common sense, and it's really

01:03:23.280 appreciated. And if you look it up, Marcel Latouche, he's got a number of books actually

01:03:27.680 online you can purchase. Check them out. He's got a lot of good ideas on governance. As you can see,

01:03:32.900 he's a man who's bound by common sense and principle, those things that are so rare in

01:03:37.700 politics today. I think most of where you see it, though, is in people who aren't elected. They seem

01:03:41.980 to lose all of that the second they manage to get under some sort of dome or circle of power

01:03:46.880 somewhere uh before i i get on to my next guest we'll talk a little more and actually i noticed

01:03:51.600 that shane wenzel commented saying with marcel uh you know a counterpoint would be uh jeff davidson

01:03:56.780 because of course he was a very big proponent of the uh the arena deal in the event center

01:04:01.760 um if you look on our youtube channels or rumble or wherever you're watching um

01:04:05.740 melanie risden one of our reporters did do an interview one-on-one with with jeff davidson so

01:04:11.460 you could sort of get the the pro uh arena sort of perspective from that if you wanted to get that

01:04:16.780 counterpoint. We've got a lot of content aside from our show that we put up online. Check it out

01:04:22.320 at the YouTube page for the Western Standard or the Rumble site or Facebook. We share a lot

01:04:27.320 on all sorts of levels. AB Free says, CTV Calorie did a poll. 81% said no to tax injection free

01:04:37.160 Albertans. So yeah, it depends on which online poll you do. You're going to get different results.

01:04:42.740 That's a more promising one. Again, when it comes to something in my view is extreme,

01:04:46.020 is forcing people to take a medication.

01:04:48.520 I think it should be more like 95%

01:04:50.240 opposed to that sort of thing.

01:04:51.240 But obviously our world has gone

01:04:52.900 more than a little mad lately.

01:04:55.940 Why is it impossible for people

01:04:57.640 to accept that they have a different perspective?

01:05:00.240 It's as I said, I know I get flack from both sides,

01:05:02.200 but I'm fully supportive of vaccinations.

01:05:04.420 I'm going to keep getting them.

01:05:06.120 And I know you guys are still going to get on my case about it.

01:05:08.760 I think it reduces my chances

01:05:10.040 of getting really sick in the hospital.

01:05:11.860 But again, never, or even a heartbeat

01:05:13.960 do I think somebody should be forced or coerced

01:05:15.840 into getting it. We can do it with a reason when without taxation, coercion, and government force

01:05:22.460 upon us. It's just frightening. And then to think of our fellow Canadians talking about each other,

01:05:26.860 saying we want to support the government in forcing each other to do these sorts of things.

01:05:32.560 It's just, it's depressed when we get on these shows sometime. I'll talk about something

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01:06:58.380 and he's from the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.

01:07:01.100 He is the Quebec director there.

01:07:03.060 It's the first time we've had him on the show.

01:07:05.020 I'm looking forward to this

01:07:06.120 because we've got quite troubling

01:07:08.760 and bizarre taxation development going on in Quebec

01:07:11.640 under the Premier Legault.

01:07:13.040 So let's bring Renaud on here.

01:07:16.840 Hey, how you doing?

01:07:18.180 I'm doing pretty good.

01:07:18.860 How are you, Corey?

01:07:19.920 Oh, very good.

01:07:20.700 Thank you.

01:07:21.520 So as he's been making news across the country,

01:07:23.800 of course, your Premier has pitched taxing

01:07:27.300 uh or fining or whatever way you want to put it uh you know government's taking it i guess it's

01:07:31.620 always a tax uh from people who have chosen not to get vaccinated uh what's the taxpayers response

01:07:36.340 to that uh the taxpayers federation well you know the taxpayers federation we've never been a big

01:07:41.060 fan of new taxes i feel like you have to make the standard disclosure here i'm twice vaccinated i'm

01:07:46.260 taking my appointment for deferred dose but this kind of tax is simply misguided uh if you think

01:07:51.620 that the restrictions that are applied on the vaccinated people are not enough and that we just

01:07:58.180 need to have like a couple of extra hundred bucks that we take out of their pocket every year to

01:08:01.780 moderate them uh i'm sorry to say but that's probably not gonna motivate people get vaccinated

01:08:07.220 like if people think their nose is going to fall off uh if they if they get an injection i don't

01:08:12.180 think a couple of hundred bucks a year is going to be enough to motivate them to do it so this

01:08:16.340 is just an utter tax grab. Yeah, and where is it going to lead? How punitive will it get? As you

01:08:23.060 said, I mean, there's people, they feel, you know, I'm not one of them, but I understand that people

01:08:26.660 feel that the vaccination is really going to harm them. I mean, some people think it's going to kill

01:08:30.340 them. Well, nobody ever, if they feel that, is going to submit to it. So as those bills mount

01:08:36.100 up, are they just going to keep paying the bills or will they eventually get fined or charged for

01:08:41.300 tax evasion i mean this is a really frightening road to get down and plus a term that we don't

01:08:46.180 hear as much as we used to but it used to be a big one was social engineering the government's

01:08:49.860 trying to use its taxation abilities to control how you live and i don't think that's what the

01:08:54.660 purpose of taxation is supposed to be in the first place is it absolutely not and a lot of pushback

01:08:59.620 we've been hearing has actually been from uh groups worried about social welfare of people

01:09:04.100 because of course there's a lot uh there's a lot more vaccinated vaccine hesitancy in a lot of

01:09:09.140 marginalized communities that simply don't have money to pay for this. Take a homeless person,

01:09:14.420 for instance, that is not necessarily vaccinated at this point. Do they have the money to pay a

01:09:18.740 couple of extra hundred bucks a year simply because they're not vaccinated? I don't think so.

01:09:23.700 I don't think this kind of punitive tax is going to do anything to help people, especially, and

01:09:29.700 it's important to note here, it's not like Quebec are not already taxed a lot anyway. Quebec is the

01:09:35.460 the most heavily taxed jurisdiction in all of North America, and we're just adding this other

01:09:40.400 tax on top of it, it's not going to make anyone better off. So you're on the ground in Quebec,

01:09:46.740 though. I know there's been, I mean, Quebec's also the most restricted jurisdiction in Canada.

01:09:51.240 People got to be getting pretty tired and upset over there, and there have been some sizable

01:09:55.240 protests. But do you think there's going to be a citizen's pushback or some organization on this?

01:10:00.220 Like, what are you getting a feel for how Quebecers feel about this proposition?

01:10:03.440 I'd say there's probably not going to be a lot of protests, but I don't think there's

01:10:09.120 the same level of compliance as there used to be. Even with curfew, we haven't seen very,

01:10:14.960 very big protests, but we've seen a lot more people openly defying a curfew or

01:10:20.080 openly saying that they're just going to sleep over at a friend's house to avoid a curfew.

01:10:24.640 And I think there's a lot less satisfaction right now with how the government has been

01:10:29.440 handling the pandemic uh the latest survey actually showed that there's uh there was a 20

01:10:34.080 point drop uh in lagos approval rating for how he's handling the pandemic just in the last couple of

01:10:38.880 weeks and i don't think this will help here uh i think this is just an easy political maneuver

01:10:44.640 it's very easy for the premier to try and say you know we'll just shift the burden on that 10

01:10:49.120 that's unvaccinated uh but i think a lot of people are seeing through this a lot of people are asking

01:10:54.240 some questions about how it will affect everybody and you know this is not just something that will

01:10:58.720 will affect the unvaccinated. To be able to apply this, it means that part of our medical records

01:11:03.660 are going to be able to be seen by the tax agency. And I don't know, I barely trust the tax agency

01:11:12.700 folks with the financial information I give them. I don't exactly trust them to handle my medical

01:11:17.600 information as well. Boy, and that's an aspect I hadn't even thought of. Yeah, I mean, this should

01:11:22.260 be very personal, whether you've been vaccinated or not vaccinated. I mean, your medical records

01:11:26.660 have mostly have been considered to be almost sacred it should be between you and your physician

01:11:30.740 and to have the government start sharing that with their their tax collection agencies

01:11:34.900 uh and that's that's another level of outrage absolutely and you know it's it'd be one thing

01:11:41.940 if we could say you know this has pushed everybody get vaccinated or make a big difference in our

01:11:46.660 health care uh but as i pointed out earlier i don't think it's going to push a lot of people

01:11:51.780 people that are already convinced uh that the fact the vaccines are going to harm them in some way

01:11:57.460 uh are most are more likely going to pay the tax people are already paying for black market

01:12:01.860 vaccine passports they're paying up to three grand to get them so i don't think a tax is

01:12:05.860 going to be all it's going to be enough to change that behavior and just in terms of revenue even

01:12:10.740 if he's charged a thousand bucks for unvaccinated person uh right now there's about 860 000 people

01:12:16.340 in Quebec that are not vaccinated. About 280,000 of those are minors. They're below 18 years old.

01:12:23.540 So that leaves about 500,000 people. Even if you charge them a thousand bucks a year

01:12:30.420 to pay for the fact they're not vaccinated, you'd pay for health care for about

01:12:34.580 three or four days, something like this. Basically, the government would already run out of money

01:12:39.620 before the weekend. And then what? There's another 364 days in the year that we need to pay for.

01:12:44.900 it's not really going to make that much of a difference. And the risk in terms, once again,

01:12:49.060 of personal privacy are significant. So when the risk outweigh the benefits, we just shouldn't go

01:12:56.580 forward with such a measure. Well, and then a distressing aspect of all this too. I know that

01:13:01.860 premiers across the country are probably watching this with interest. I mean, Premier Kenny and I

01:13:06.740 believe Saskatchewan's Moe has already said, no, we are not going to do that whatsoever.

01:13:10.180 It's funny. The first thing that came up in Kenny's latest conference was a reporter or no,

01:13:14.580 No, it was from one of Kenny's Facebook Live things last night saying he had to say explicitly already, no, I'm not going to do that.

01:13:20.240 Though he also said he'd never do vax passports and we have them now.

01:13:23.400 So we'll see. But with this precedent, I mean, if Legault gets away with this, we could see these springing up pretty quickly across the country. 0.99

01:13:32.460 Absolutely. And unfortunately, we have exported our fair share of bad ideas from Quebec, unfortunately.

01:13:37.460 hopefully this is one that just doesn't that doesn't take hold in the residentry because

01:13:43.360 once again it's it's very misguided it's also opening a dangerous precedent because there's

01:13:48.440 a lot of things that people do that will affect the cost of our health care does that mean that

01:13:53.560 we should tax people more simply because they work in manufacturing instead of an office job

01:13:58.100 does that mean that we should tax people more because they don't go jogging as often as their

01:14:02.380 neighbors there's a lot there's a lot of different things that affect the cost of our health care

01:14:07.440 And in a context where we have a healthcare government monopoly, it'd just be very, very harmful to open it up to have all of these other taxes that could be levied on people.

01:14:18.440 Once again, Canadians are overtaxed. Quebecers especially are overtaxed. And adding some new taxes, giving some more taxing powers to the government is just not going to help us.

01:14:28.440 this. Yeah, we've already seen some lawyers actually have been vowing saying that the second

01:14:32.720 that legislation comes in, they're taking it to court. And I'm looking actually to get a lawyer

01:14:36.860 on the show tomorrow to talk to me about some of the legalities of this. I know it's not necessarily

01:14:41.240 the realm of the Taxpayers Federation, but you're well versed in politics. Wouldn't some of this

01:14:46.320 be considered to be in contravention of the Canadian Health Act? I mean, we're kind of really

01:14:51.080 pushing the limits of what's considered universality if we start picking and choosing

01:14:55.000 you know who has to pay for coverage and things such as that well as you pointed out i'm not a

01:14:59.240 lawyer that's not my expertise it might contribute the uh the canadian health act uh but one of the

01:15:04.120 issues is that uh it's still it's still going to be applied for a certain time before the

01:15:08.840 courts strike it down uh you know it can take 18 months for the courts to to strike down a bad law

01:15:14.840 it can take some time for the government to uh to change that kind of um that kind of bad behavior

01:15:20.200 and given the fact that telago is going to be in the election next november i think this is once

01:15:24.120 Once again, a very political move is trying to get the support of the 85 to 90 percent of people that are vaccinated and turn it against and blame the 10 percent that's unvaccinated for some issues with our health care system.

01:15:36.480 Well, it is a divide and conquer tactic.

01:15:39.600 Again, people are scared.

01:15:41.540 We know we saw it, for example, I guess you could say with the PPC, when they did target in getting support from people who oppose restrictions, vaccinations, things like that, you get a very solid core of support, but it's a very limited one.

01:15:53.580 and it leaves them in that limited corner

01:15:55.860 with a dedicated support core.

01:15:57.700 Legault's kind of going the other way around.

01:15:59.020 Well, no, we're going to pursue that majority 0.64

01:16:01.000 and sideline and demonize the other 10%, perhaps.

01:16:05.440 But again, it's such a divisive

01:16:06.940 and destructive way to play politics, unfortunately.

01:16:09.840 It really is.

01:16:10.640 And once again, I get it.

01:16:11.720 People are pissed.

01:16:12.480 People want this pandemic to end.

01:16:13.900 People want to be able to go outside again.

01:16:15.940 Like I have a curfew at 10 p.m. every night

01:16:17.820 as imposed by my government.

01:16:19.520 God knows I want this to end,

01:16:21.160 but we're not going to tax our way out of a pandemic.

01:16:24.580 No, well, we got a government thinks we can tax our way out of climate change.

01:16:27.640 So, I mean, you know, why stop there, right?

01:16:31.600 Well, I appreciate you guys with the Taxpayers Federation out there, you know, trying to speak up on these issues and pushing back.

01:16:38.520 Where can we find more information about where you guys are and what you're doing?

01:16:42.700 Well, as always, you can find it on Taxpayer.com or on our Facebook page for the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.

01:16:48.940 Okay, well, thank you very much for joining me today.

01:16:50.980 I hope we can get you on again soon.

01:16:52.360 Maybe we'll talk about after the law has been struck down

01:16:55.140 and see what his new alternatives and options

01:16:57.240 to try and get money out of Quebecers' wallets will be.

01:16:59.480 Yeah, likewise.

01:17:00.280 Hopefully, next time it's going to be under better circumstances.

01:17:03.580 I certainly hope so.

01:17:04.660 It's got to get better.

01:17:05.640 All right.

01:17:05.940 Thank you, Renaud.

01:17:06.780 We'll talk again soon.

01:17:08.240 Have a good one.

01:17:09.780 All right.

01:17:10.400 See, it's nice to get somebody on the show.

01:17:12.220 Quebec isn't devoid of common sense.

01:17:14.020 You know, I think among the Canadian provinces,

01:17:16.380 it's probably lacking it more than most of our other ones.

01:17:19.780 Of course, I'm that mean Albert,

01:17:20.720 and I always go into those things.

01:17:22.360 anyways, but, you know, we just can't say it enough. And I, that's why I like getting guests

01:17:26.920 on. I mean, I wrote my opening column, you know, and rant about the consequences of chipping away

01:17:33.520 at our universal system and some of the implications of that. And again, bringing it all on, I hadn't

01:17:39.320 even thought of that. Yeah. They're going to take your medical records and share it with their

01:17:44.240 revenue generating branch of government. This is not good. This is terrible. And these are things

01:17:53.200 that should be considered sacred. Where do we go next? You know, where do we stop with that?

01:17:57.820 A big fear people have always had. That's one of the things with the home genetics tests,

01:18:01.320 things like that. Your medical records. If we ever do get to private or supplemental insurance

01:18:05.660 or things like that, and if Quebec destroys our health system, we might get there.

01:18:09.540 insurance companies would be really eager to find out if you've got a predisposition to heart

01:18:17.080 disease or a family history of certain kinds of cancers, but things like that. So they can choose

01:18:22.100 whether or not to cover you or not cover you. That's why part of why there's many, many reasons

01:18:26.340 why the part of why your medical records should be kept to yourself as private as possible. And I

01:18:33.520 don't trust, as he said, you know, there's all sorts, we don't trust government at all, much

01:18:37.460 less agencies such as the revenue agency. These guys are, you know, second only to the mafia for

01:18:44.340 their collection techniques. So it's just levels and levels. And again, I'm hoping to get somebody

01:18:50.080 from the Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms on tomorrow. We got the word out. I might

01:18:53.800 find an email perhaps after this show when I get in. And we'll talk about the legalities.

01:18:57.680 I don't believe, though, I mean, I don't know. Everything's out the window these days, right?

01:19:00.900 I don't see how this could withstand a court challenge. I mean, it's in violation of the

01:19:05.940 Canada Health Act, Black Locks Reporter covered that in the westerncenteredonline.com. I believe

01:19:10.960 we've made a story based on that as well. It's in gross violation of the Health Act. You can't

01:19:16.540 start discriminating and distinguishing between people when it comes to health, whether it's in

01:19:20.140 payments or in spirit. And that's, you know, you're trying to play around the periphery with

01:19:24.040 this tax. You can't do it. And it's a solid basis to go to court. As well, just on the forced

01:19:31.700 medication level of it, the human rights level of it. So many ways you could go to court on this.

01:19:37.220 But as Renaud said too, it might take them 18 months to get through the court. I mean, I would

01:19:41.820 guess, I'm no legal expert though. The first thing you do when you see something big like this is

01:19:46.080 seek an injunction. Slap them with an injunction, say, no, no, no, stop in your tracks right there.

01:19:52.480 This isn't going forward until we've fully scrutinized it in a court of law and had a

01:19:56.540 ruling on whether or not we can do this. But this is La Belle Provence. It's Quebec. They do whatever

01:20:03.520 the hell they want. They don't care about the Canadian courts. Come on. Look at Bill 21. You

01:20:08.240 know, it's a gross discriminatory bill that's in there that they hide behind the notwithstanding

01:20:14.140 clause in the Charter of Rights. And no politician federally has the balls to go after Quebec on it, 0.83

01:20:21.300 except Jodi Gondek. Her balls are bigger than Trudeau's balls. But she can't do a thing because 1.00

01:20:27.020 she's a municipal politician who shouldn't be trying to do anything about it anyway. 0.73

01:20:31.240 So does Quebec care about losing court cases over medical requirements or new taxation methods or 0.99

01:20:40.160 things like that? I doubt it. I mean, they'll just ignore it. As well as Renaud said, I mean,

01:20:46.600 look at what Quebec's living under already. You know, the majority, if we want to talk about the

01:20:49.740 old tyranny of the majority. We're seeing it right now. They've got curfews over there. They've got

01:20:55.740 curfews. I never thought in my whole life we would see curfews in the developed world unless there

01:21:00.720 was literally a civil war or an invasion going on from a foreign country. I mean, to lock people in 0.64

01:21:07.440 their houses, make it illegal to leave your house. Think about that. And the pushback's minor.

01:21:14.420 you know we're we're it's it's people are well okay so it goes well i don't know we're letting

01:21:23.300 ourselves get stepped on let's see how far it gets quebec's the worst of the bunch but we're 0.55

01:21:26.360 not a hell of a lot better out here we're just lucky that kenny hasn't wanted to go towards 0.99

01:21:30.260 curfews again lunatics like gil mcgowan would happily have one you want something really

01:21:35.240 comical actually go to gil mcgowan's uh twitter scroll he's got to be blocked but you know there's 0.93

01:21:40.400 always ways to see those things. I guess his partner had been diagnosed with Omicron,

01:21:45.680 and he wrote this tweet thread, and oh, it was so dramatic. He was segregating her in a different

01:21:49.840 part of the house, and he was terrified, and it's a cold. It's a cold. But I mean, oh, the dramatic

01:21:56.680 bull out of that guy when he posted it on his account. And I mean, hey, I understand COVID

01:22:02.360 isn't harmless. If it was the Delta variant, if it was somebody vulnerable, or if it was one of

01:22:05.840 those one in a million people who has a strongly adverse reaction to Omicron, it could have gone

01:22:09.840 badly. And I wouldn't want to wish that on even Gil's family. No, I don't. But oh, the panicked

01:22:15.020 pap and BS out of that guy that he put on his Twitter feed for it. Really? And this is the guy

01:22:20.900 who calls for lockdown, circuit breakers, shutting other people down. But again, remember, he's a

01:22:24.980 parasite. He makes his money sucking money out of union dues. And something to remember, let's just 1.00

01:22:30.380 go into that. The NDP, Notley's NDP has been growing in the polls. For one, she would keep us

01:22:35.360 locked down all the time. Let's not have a second to doubt about it. You know, leftists have never

01:22:39.740 been exactly big on individual rights and freedoms and movement of citizens. Now, if you really want

01:22:46.000 to get wonky, dig into the NDP party constitution, because the Alberta Federation of Labor has a

01:22:52.900 whole bunch of guaranteed spots on the directorship of that party. Basically, the party is beholden

01:22:59.020 to the Alberta Federation of Labor. The person who runs that party in a de facto way is Gil

01:23:04.640 McCowan. Yeah, that nut. And he is a nut. Oh, check his Twitter out. Check out. Just Google

01:23:09.360 him. There's some beautiful things Gil's done in his past. And he is the one who pulls Rachel's

01:23:14.460 strings. You know, I mean, it's not that she's completely beholden to him, but she's pretty

01:23:18.520 darn close. And the other thing to watch is that the provincial NDP is literally constitutionally

01:23:25.160 tied to the federal NDP. You can't buy a membership for the Alberta NDP and not be a member of the

01:23:29.600 federal one. It's all one. These are Soviet style people, guys. Moscow leads all. That's the nature

01:23:34.620 or the NDP. That's why I do get so scared when the UCP is going into the toilet because we can't

01:23:39.100 take four more years of these socialists in power, but we certainly seem to be giving it to them. But

01:23:43.020 I can't understate how bad the NDP is and who actually controls those guys. So let's remember

01:23:49.720 that. The other part is, that means that Notley, and it shows it in their constitution too,

01:23:54.380 is beholden to the federal NDP. Jagmeet Singh tells Notley what to do. He doesn't directly do

01:24:00.040 I know it drives them wild. Oh, you're lying. No, I'm not lying. He doesn't give her a broken

01:24:04.620 down list of what she has to say or do, but it's right in their constitution. If they have a big

01:24:08.740 point of principle where the provincial NDP and the federal NDP completely clash on it,

01:24:13.780 it says in the constitution, they have to defer to the federal NDP. That means Jagmeet's in charge.

01:24:20.700 That's the party that's running in Alberta right now. That's coming close that possibly would win

01:24:24.920 an election if it was held tomorrow. We're about, what, a year and three months from the next

01:24:29.440 election. So we better somehow, somewhere get our crap together or Notley along with Gil McGowan 0.97

01:24:35.420 and Jagmeet Singh are going to be running Alberta. What a terrifying thought. And as Sandy's saying, 0.97

01:24:42.560 yeah, most people don't know about that with the NDP, federal and provincial. Yeah.

01:24:46.120 It's all one. If you look at BC, for example, they got the liberal party and the federal liberal

01:24:49.740 party. The provincial liberals have absolutely no formal connection to the federal liberals. None.

01:24:55.400 They're different entities altogether. They just share a name. Same with conservatives,

01:24:58.780 typically UCP. I mean, there's a lot of overlap with these parties federally and provincially

01:25:02.380 with people and individuals, but constitutionally, organizationally, no, they are completely

01:25:06.220 separate entities, but not the NDP. NDP, one big centralized party, and you have no choice. You

01:25:13.860 can't just join a branch. It's all together, guys. Solidarity forever, right? Except if you're one of

01:25:20.100 the 10% who might not want to get vaccinated, then we will sideline and separate you and punish you 0.99

01:25:26.120 and demonize you and shut down the world

01:25:29.120 until somehow this bug goes away.

01:25:32.220 Because that's the other thing with socialists.

01:25:33.420 They feel government can fix anything.

01:25:35.780 The only reason this pandemic is happening

01:25:37.620 is we didn't govern ourselves hard enough.

01:25:40.480 And sometimes you've got to understand

01:25:41.460 it's not within the power of government to do something.

01:25:43.740 But these guys will never understand that.

01:25:45.600 All right, that's enough pissing and moaning

01:25:47.140 and ranting out of me for today.

01:25:49.500 Another good show coming up tomorrow.

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01:25:52.420 to the the legal aspects of uh you know the the taxation of people on health uh in in quebec and

01:25:59.080 how that might have ramifications across the country and then make sure again you know help

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Western Standard - January 13, 2022

TRIGGERED： Will Quebec bring Canada’s universal health system to an end？

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