Western Standard - Triggered： Will the courts save the West？

00:00:00.000 Thank you.

00:00:30.000 Good morning. It's Wednesday, May 11th, 2022. Welcome to Triggered. I'm Corey Morgan. Well,

00:00:40.800 this is the Western Standards Daily Live show that we do covering news, opinion topics. I get guests.

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00:01:13.760 Or even times like yesterday, I'll bark at you if I disagree with them, but it's all part of the fun.

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00:01:20.580 So let's see, let's look at some of the observances we've got coming up today.

00:01:24.020 We've got some important things that some people may have forgotten.

00:01:26.220 And apparently it is National or actually World Root Canal Appreciation Day.

00:01:30.900 I'm not making this stuff up.

00:01:32.180 I dig into the important parts of the internet and find these items to make sure you are

00:01:36.220 making your observances every day.

00:01:38.120 It's also Hostess Cupcake Day, which of course, if you eat too many of those, it might lead

00:01:42.880 to the aforementioned root canals.

00:01:44.820 I guess it all kind of ties together.

00:01:47.140 And it's National Night Shift Workers Day.

00:01:49.820 So make sure to give any night shift worker, you know, a hug and express your appreciation

00:01:55.760 for what they do after hours for us all.

00:01:59.420 So see, today we've got a good lineup of guests.

00:02:02.260 I see one in the lobby already. 0.96

00:02:04.240 I'm probably going to slaughter his name,

00:02:06.060 but it's Réjean Venn.

00:02:07.760 On his book, It's Unvaccinated,

00:02:09.620 How Canada Turned to Hatred and Division.

00:02:11.680 And of course, that is a big subject and a big issue.

00:02:14.500 It's a broad one.

00:02:15.380 I mean, we've ripped ourselves apart

00:02:18.200 over the medical status of individuals.

00:02:20.680 It's really been something else to observe.

00:02:23.060 And we're going to have repercussions from this

00:02:24.720 for a long time.

00:02:25.760 So, Mr. Venn has written a book on it, though, and his experience, and it's going to be a good conversation.

00:02:31.280 I'm really looking forward to that. That'll be up in about 15 minutes or so.

00:02:35.400 As well, we're going to have Western Standard, Saskatchewan, one of our Saskatchewan writers, Lee Harding.

00:02:39.720 And there's been a new provincial political party formed in Saskatchewan, or at least they're in the process of it.

00:02:44.840 It's the SaskUnited Party. We're seeing that all over the place.

00:02:48.420 You know, we have the Ontario as a new party springing up in Alberta.

00:02:51.500 Of course, we're constantly having new parties springing up like weeds, usually on the right of center.

00:02:56.960 We're always trying new ways to get in and make change and beating our heads against that wall.

00:03:01.700 So we'll see what's happening over to our eastern neighbors there in Saskatchewan and find out what's up with their party,

00:03:07.280 why some people are feeling discontent with the existing Sask party.

00:03:11.840 So let's see here.

00:03:14.080 Now, I want to talk about, yes, the court ruling.

00:03:16.680 I saw a commenter earlier asking if it was about the 2,000 mules.

00:03:19.020 No, it's not.

00:03:19.920 I'm talking about the Alberta Court of Appeals

00:03:22.360 and a ruling that came out yesterday.

00:03:24.640 Most of us probably heard about it already.

00:03:26.680 And the title is talking about whether or not it'll save the West

00:03:28.800 because we're failing in every other attempt

00:03:30.780 to stop federal incursions on provincial jurisdiction.

00:03:34.060 Maybe the courts will actually do it on our behalf.

00:03:36.540 But it's an unfortunate way to go, and to be honest,

00:03:38.340 I doubt it'll happen.

00:03:39.180 But all the same, Premier Jason Kenney has needed a break lately

00:03:43.080 and yesterday got one.

00:03:44.420 The ruling by the Alberta Court of Appeals

00:03:46.320 declared the Liberals' No More Pipelines bill unconstitutional.

00:03:50.920 And it's really the first major victory against Ottawa incursions upon provincial jurisdiction

00:03:55.000 in Kenny's entire tenure as Premier, though that was much of what he campaigned on to get in in the first place.

00:04:01.140 Now, with the cutoff for voting in the UCP Leadership Review landing today,

00:04:05.340 the ruling won't make much difference in Kenny's political fate next week.

00:04:08.640 But I'm sure he was relieved to at least be able to crow about a victory for a change this week

00:04:13.540 as they start chewing their fingernails

00:04:15.680 to find out how UCP members are going to vote next week.

00:04:19.540 C-69, for those who aren't as familiar with it,

00:04:22.020 as I've labeled it, the No More Pipelines Bill,

00:04:24.460 was imposed upon Canada back in 2019.

00:04:27.220 It was a bill modeled to essentially regulate

00:04:29.040 any new, large, proposed energy infrastructure projects to death.

00:04:33.060 It applies to other projects such as mining and that as well,

00:04:35.380 but their target was definitely the oil and gas of the West.

00:04:38.900 The Trudeau Liberals are anti-energy ideologues, 0.99

00:04:41.720 and they're cowards.

00:04:42.320 I mean, at least, you know, rather than accepting their ideology and overtly banning oil and gas projects, 0.87

00:04:48.080 they craft legislation that makes it impossible to get any new ones done.

00:04:51.720 That way they can talk out of both sides of their mouths.

00:04:53.560 They can claim to support Western resource development with the smug knowledge that no projects will ever be approved under their legislation.

00:05:00.720 The bill called for considerations of social environmental issues that may be caused downstream with the projects.

00:05:06.360 like that's such an abstract demand it can and would be interpreted in ways that would

00:05:11.060 be impossible to counter it's just that sort of demand that killed energy east the pipeline owner

00:05:16.300 was expected to be responsible for impacts caused by the end user of the product theoretically a

00:05:21.380 producer has to be held accountable for the impact of a person filling their car with gas derived

00:05:26.320 from canadian products even if they're on the other side of the planet it's ridiculous but

00:05:30.040 that's what they're sort of demanding with these things so the west fought c69 with everything we

00:05:34.340 had. We lobbied MPs and Senators. We held rallies. We launched petitions. There was even going to be

00:05:39.840 a truck convoy, but that sort of fell apart with the Yellow Vesters. It didn't mean a damn thing. 1.00

00:05:44.000 Liberal-appointed Senators towed the line, and the bill was rammed through Parliament.

00:05:48.320 With the arbitrary powers to approve or decline projects, the federal government immediately,

00:05:52.540 of course, was chilling investment in energy infrastructure across Canada,

00:05:56.060 particularly in the West. I mean, look how they use it. Just look how Gil Bull recently approved

00:06:00.180 an oil project in Newfoundland, while at the same time banning an expansion of an oil sign

00:06:04.160 project in Alberta. It's no wonder few people are willing to invest in Western Canadian projects

00:06:08.920 despite record high oil prices. The investor never knows when the rug is going to be pulled

00:06:12.640 out from under their project. This power walks all over provincial jurisdiction and takes

00:06:17.520 the ability to develop resources for export out of the hands of the provinces

00:06:21.140 unless they have federal approval. As per the judges, this is their quotes,

00:06:26.720 if upheld, the legislation would permanently alter the division of powers and forever place

00:06:31.260 provincial governments in an economic chokehold controlled by the federal government that's what

00:06:35.920 the five justice panel wrote the majority of them anyways four out of five the legislation the

00:06:41.640 justices wrote takes a wrecking ball to the constitutional rights of alberta like this is

00:06:45.560 not minor language here guys and saskatchewan and their rights to develop their own resources and

00:06:51.100 here's another quote from them to deprive alberta and saskatchewan which together have the mass

00:06:55.060 vast majority of oil and gas reserves in the country of their constitutional right

00:06:58.520 to exploit these natural resources,

00:07:00.620 especially while the federal government continues to permit the import

00:07:03.280 of hundreds of millions of barrels of oil into Canada from other countries

00:07:06.680 is to reintroduce the very discrimination both provinces understood

00:07:11.040 had ended, if not 1930, then certainly by 1982.

00:07:16.140 The language was pretty darn clear from the Alberta Court of Appeals.

00:07:19.940 Unfortunately, and predictably, Trudeau,

00:07:22.520 abetted by his extreme environment minister,

00:07:24.600 is declaring that he'll take this to the Supreme Court.

00:07:27.300 Trudeau actually took the moment to blame Harper for the problems getting projects approved in Canada.

00:07:31.540 I mean, the gall of that little man has just no end.

00:07:34.760 So, what are the odds that Alberta's challenge to C-69 will win in the federal Supreme Court?

00:07:39.280 I'd say slim to none.

00:07:41.100 The court is dominated by Eastern justices who were appointed by prime ministers.

00:07:44.820 If we're ever going to be hoped to be protected from unconstitutional actions of the federal government,

00:07:49.200 it would have to be with the Senate, and that's proven to be a joke.

00:07:52.500 So, I mean, as with past judicial rulings on jurisdictional issues,

00:07:55.560 the Supreme Court will likely, might even acknowledge the bill does violate the Constitution,

00:07:59.340 but we should overlook that for the sake of the national interest.

00:08:02.400 I doubt we'll see investment in Western resources spiking in light of our recent ruling.

00:08:06.640 So what good news is there to be seen here?

00:08:08.500 Well, seeing Trudeau pissed off is an immaterial benefit of the ruling.

00:08:12.760 He would have been thrilled had the Alberta court put the issue to rest, and he was disappointed.

00:08:17.020 So that's a fleeting and small benefit.

00:08:19.240 The upside is that we'll see a jurisdictional issue go to the highest court of the land,

00:08:23.100 and it's going to rule in favor of the federal government.

00:08:25.080 Why do I say it's an upside?

00:08:26.380 It's every time such an event happens, more Western Canadians realize how broken the system is

00:08:30.680 and how stacked it is against them.

00:08:32.880 Support for Western independence.

00:08:34.240 It has its ebbs and flows.

00:08:35.800 Every time an event inflames the West, though, more dedicated, permanent supporters of independence are created.

00:08:40.820 We aren't at a tipping point of broad support for Western independence yet,

00:08:44.060 but government actions are determined to bring us all there.

00:08:46.580 Not enough Westerners are ready to go.

00:08:48.000 yet, but we'll get there as we continue to smack our heads against the legislative wall and

00:08:52.880 confederation. So in looking at the long game, yesterday's court ruling was a victory,

00:08:57.360 as will the pending federal court ruling that will probably shoot it down. We need these clashes to

00:09:01.760 make it clear we're not going to be treated fairly in confederation as it's currently set up.

00:09:06.080 Then we'll finally start pursuing the only means we have left to bring about positive change,

00:09:09.560 and that's going to be through independence movements. So keep up the good work, Justin.

00:09:14.140 You're moving us along the path I've wanted to for quite some time.

00:09:17.300 All right, so that's where we're sitting on that court ruling.

00:09:19.880 Let's check in with the newsroom with Mr. Dave Naylor, our news editor,

00:09:23.420 and see what else is happening out there.

00:09:25.900 Hey, Dave.

00:09:26.840 Hey, Corey. How are you doing?

00:09:28.240 I'm all right.

00:09:29.580 I'm burning up, Corey. I'm burning up. I got flames fever.

00:09:32.820 Oh, yes.

00:09:34.160 Big game tonight.

00:09:35.240 Yeah, big game tonight, game five, coming off a victory in Dallas.

00:09:40.820 And just as importantly, the hated Edmonton Oilers lost in overtime last night, too.

00:09:45.840 So things are looking up on the hockey front, Corey.

00:09:48.980 I understand that Foothills Creamery has also come out with a special Flames ice cream for the playoffs.

00:09:55.700 It's called Sea of Red Caramel Swirl.

00:10:01.060 That's a bit.

00:10:01.940 Cinnabolt, I'm being corrected.

00:10:06.420 So, yeah, that's available at your neighborhood grocery store, apparently.

00:10:09.320 Not likely available in Edmonton, mind you, but their ice cream would all be melted by their tears coming up shortly, Corey.

00:10:19.600 But enough about hockey. Let's get to the news. What do we have for you today?

00:10:24.260 Your aforementioned buddy, Justin Trudeau, looks like he's bringing back the long gun registry.

00:10:30.380 Our Amanda Brown's got a story on that leading the website at the moment.

00:10:35.100 We've also got the RCMP Commissioner Lucky basically catching the federal government in a lie six times. 0.71

00:10:43.800 Sorry, not six times, 11 times our federal public safety minister, Medicino, said that it was the RCMP that demanded the Emergency Act be brought in to deal with those bouncy castles and partiers down in Ottawa.

00:10:59.240 And Commissioner Lucky testified last night, no, they didn't ask for it at all.

00:11:04.460 So somebody's not telling the truth there, Corey.

00:11:07.640 We've got a great story on electrical vehicle charging stations, government ones across the country.

00:11:14.600 Some of them go for not days, not weeks, but months without seeing a single customer pulling up in their electric vehicle for a recharge.

00:11:24.420 We've got some worrying news on a new Omicron variant that's sort of been spiking cases in South Africa.

00:11:31.600 Cases have now been detected in Canada, and our male residents got all the details on that.

00:11:38.660 We've got a study, a government study, a Privy Council research study showing inflation is drastically changing the lives of Canadians.

00:11:47.260 People are having to get second jobs, postponing their retirement, cancelling holidays,

00:11:53.340 basically changing everything about their lives from how they drive to how they shop as uh

00:11:58.940 inflation sits at a at a very steep 6.7 other stuff uh the uh people of saskatchewan uh bad

00:12:07.900 drivers out there when they get uh a traffic ticket now have a a specialized gender box

00:12:15.740 they can check if they don't want to check whether they're a man or a woman they can

00:12:19.180 check gender uh so i guess that's uh important uh information uh that the saskatchewan authorities

00:12:25.900 need and uh jonathan bradley's got a disturbing story on a ontario rcmp officer uh from mexico

00:12:34.220 actually charged with human trafficking he has been pointed out uh by the liberal government

00:12:40.140 as a great example of uh of our immigration system so apparently this guy may or may not have

00:12:46.380 falling through the cracks because it's just alleged of course uh so that's what we've got

00:12:51.020 at the moment uh just waiting for a linda slobodian column to publish on uh derek sloan's

00:12:57.020 ontario party and uh basically bringing back god onto the campaign trail uh so we'll see how well

00:13:03.180 that goes over so uh that's lots of stuff up there and lots more stuff to come and uh go flames go

00:13:09.180 tonight right on well thanks uh i'll see if i can't find some of that ice cream on the way

00:13:14.300 home tonight that's kind of my kryptonite actually uh for for dangerous foods is ice cream i can't

00:13:19.580 help myself with this stuff but i got an excuse to grab some it's showing my loyalty to the local

00:13:23.580 team exactly there you go great all right thanks dave we'll check in again with you uh well i'll

00:13:29.580 talk to you after the show yeah and we'll see you on the pipeline tonight yes of course so that's

00:13:35.500 our news editor dave naylor with uh yes the rundown and news and stories from across the country as we

00:13:41.180 We are constantly expanding and things are breaking as Linda Sibodian's got something

00:13:46.700 coming out of that Ontario election. 0.98

00:13:48.380 As I said, there's another Conservative Party has sprouted up out there and it's led by

00:13:53.520 Mr. Sloan.

00:13:54.260 We'll see if that has an impact.

00:13:55.840 There's one thing we Conservatives like doing is splitting ourselves up into all different

00:13:59.460 parties and pushing forward.

00:14:01.620 We're just chronic malcontents that way.

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00:15:27.020 and we will talk to Mr. Vennig.

00:15:29.500 So let's see.

00:15:31.200 This shows, again, our dysfunctional country

00:15:33.980 and the piss-poor management of it.

00:15:36.540 This was a news item.

00:15:37.540 $1.5 million went out for pandemic bonuses

00:15:40.720 to the public health agency.

00:15:43.260 So the public health agency has been cited

00:15:46.080 for pandemic mismanagement over and over,

00:15:49.300 and they got five-figure bonuses

00:15:51.080 given to the executives last year.

00:15:53.340 is they literally reward incompetence in government.

00:15:58.580 You know, with what we've gone through

00:15:59.520 this last two years, this horrific management,

00:16:01.940 as I'll be talking with my guests,

00:16:03.020 the dividing of this country.

00:16:04.840 And what do they get for that?

00:16:06.720 They should be getting summons.

00:16:08.560 No, they're getting bonuses, five figures, no less.

00:16:11.640 You know, we're doing all right here

00:16:12.900 with the subscribers and advertising,

00:16:14.520 but I assure you, we're not getting

00:16:15.480 any five-figure bonuses around the newsroom here yet.

00:16:18.220 But this is our government.

00:16:19.160 This is brutal.

00:16:21.840 I mean, so it's being questioned.

00:16:23.340 The Conservative MP Kelly McCauley from Edmonton West asked for the records.

00:16:28.020 He said, you know, they shut down an early warning pandemic system.

00:16:30.660 They threw out PPE, personal protective equipment.

00:16:33.620 Their president was hauled before the House of Commons for contempt.

00:16:37.520 So what did they do?

00:16:39.060 They gave 68 of them bonuses and 10 employees, the equivalent of $18,600 each.

00:16:45.460 This is your tax dollars at work.

00:16:47.540 These guys not only step on your individual rights, not only incompetently run your government,

00:16:51.840 put your safety at risk, they get a bonus to do so. How bad, how bad does it have to get

00:16:59.800 to face any consequences in this country? This agency was created in 2004 for pandemic preparedness

00:17:07.760 and they've been fully funded. They've gotten 675 a million a year and saying we're supposed

00:17:14.600 to be ready. And still they got caught apparently with their pants down as this pandemic hit. And

00:17:18.420 they've just been scrambling with a shotgun approach on finding ways to step on people's

00:17:23.400 rights and push them around. But aside from that, we seem to be as unprepared as anybody else.

00:17:28.560 And for that, they've gotten bonuses. This world is really a mess, particularly in Canada.

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00:19:00.500 Okay, well, let's move on to our guest.

00:19:02.380 I see in the lobby there, he's written a book recently.

00:19:04.300 He's written a couple of books, actually.

00:19:05.660 Maybe I'll talk to him another time about the retirement one.

00:19:08.400 That sounds interesting as well.

00:19:09.420 But for now, we're going to go on about how he's written as an unvaccinated individual and how it has been dividing this country and turning Canada into a place of hatred and division.

00:19:19.640 So some pretty heated subjects, but I think all of us can relate to it.

00:19:23.200 So thank you very much for joining me today, Mr. Venne?

00:19:27.580 Ven.

00:19:28.420 Ven, okay. I had a fright the first time, I think.

00:19:31.360 Yeah. Hey, Corey, thanks for having me on.

00:19:35.520 Oh, it's a pleasure. So, I mean, your title kind of says it all.

00:19:38.100 it's unvaccinated, how Canada turned to hatred and division. And, you know, we've reported a

00:19:43.520 lot on that. I mean, we've seen some very specific incidents. I mean, Prime Minister Trudeau, a man

00:19:47.600 in a position of responsibility, who's speaking to the whole country, who's been demonizing

00:19:52.280 Canadians as even racists and bigots for not being vaccinated. People have been told that

00:19:58.000 they're putting their neighbors and friends and families at risk. It's just been horrific what's

00:20:01.380 happened. And we're still dealing with that fallout now. So you've sort of documented that.

00:20:05.340 Yeah, I mean, I started writing this book almost a year ago when I started seeing the

00:20:11.180 vaccine rollout come out, and I was one of the people interested in getting a vaccine.

00:20:16.700 Really excited about the news about the vaccine coming out.

00:20:19.500 But as the rollout went on and it was offered to most of the population, it made a lot of

00:20:25.260 sense for the older and immunocompromised population, but when it became my turn, my

00:20:30.300 risk analysis told me that it might not be the best bet for me at that point.

00:20:35.340 off and I just observed and what I observed really troubled me and things just got worse.

00:20:43.420 I think everybody knows that it became such a divisive issue last year. It was the focal point

00:20:48.540 of one of the most important federal elections that should have been about the economy,

00:20:53.260 it should have been about so many other things, but instead the entire focus of our country was

00:20:58.060 about how we can get from an already very high vaccination rate, one of the highest vaccination

00:21:02.940 race in the world, we decided to divide our entire country so that we can gain a couple

00:21:06.480 of points in a very healthy population, already healthy population.

00:21:11.120 So, yeah, the whole idea of dividing the country just over that concept kind of very much troubled

00:21:18.280 me and motivated the right to score.

00:21:19.900 Yeah, well, I mean, the consequences have been all over.

00:21:22.580 I mean, whether it's people losing jobs, people losing ability to visit family, people, but

00:21:27.860 the other part is the, as you said, the hatred and division.

00:21:31.100 I mean, we've heard a lot of anecdotes of people that their families have been split up because they've turned against each other over vaccination status and workplaces are divided.

00:21:39.860 You know, friendships have been lost.

00:21:41.600 When in human history have we had people have that sort of division based on a medical choice?

00:21:47.580 Yeah, that's it's historical and it's unprecedented.

00:21:52.600 I document in the book how we've done this type of things in the past.

00:21:57.260 We've gone irrationally towards hatred many times throughout our history.

00:22:01.100 um and a lot of times it's just based on fear and it's based on politicians taking advantage of

00:22:06.300 of wedge political issues and and this was one of them um and yeah i think uh you know as the

00:22:12.780 new year came about i thought that come january we would sort of realize our mistakes and realize that

00:22:18.300 that uh we we went the wrong way on on this on this issue but then we had a prime minister

00:22:24.780 uh and the liberal government that essentially just uh reinforced the division with the comments

00:22:30.140 Like you said, calling all the unvaccinated people racist and misogynist and also blame the blame.

00:22:37.260 You know, this pandemic, the extension of the pandemic, the lockdowns was because of a mismanaged health care system.

00:22:44.760 It wasn't because of healthy 30 year olds like myself who chose to be unvaccinated.

00:22:49.240 But that was the that was the message. And that's that's what I mean by how we turn to hatred.

00:22:56.600 we turned to hatred to reward just certain people for the pandemic. And for a very short period of

00:23:05.480 time, there was some optimism that maybe the vaccine could stop the spread. And there was

00:23:10.280 legitimate reasons to segregate people or to potentially look at passports. But that was very

00:23:16.040 ethical, a very ethically gray area, but we went ahead regardless. But as the numbers came out,

00:23:24.760 And as we saw with the Omicron variant, and there was no, and there is still today, there is no difference in spread between unvaccinated and vaccinated people.

00:23:33.620 But still today, we still have a lot of patriots of people who just chose a different medical path, chose to not take the vaccine.

00:23:42.440 And that still troubles me today because we're still seeing it today.

00:23:47.060 We're still seeing, you know, prominent mainstream journalists and a lot of public health doctors that have very loud voices still spreading hatred and spreading messages to their followers that they should disassociate with unvaccinated people.

00:24:03.580 We still have health authorities in the country telling people to avoid unvaccinated people.

00:24:08.280 That has never happened in our country where we've told people to avoid another class of people simply based on a health choice that the real world data seems to indicate doesn't really make a difference from a spread standpoint.

00:24:23.400 Oh, and it shames people.

00:24:25.140 And I mean, if people aren't sure or unaware, they might feel badly.

00:24:28.000 I mean, we see that from, as you said, there's some political leaders or even medical leaders and they're on social media.

00:24:32.920 And we'll see that.

00:24:33.840 I'm sure you've seen it in your province.

00:24:35.600 We see it everywhere.

00:24:36.100 all the numbers have spiked in the hospital or in the ICU where deaths have gone up and they'll come

00:24:40.340 out and say, this is your fault. You people who have chosen not to be vaccinated, you're the

00:24:45.340 reason these people are in the hospital when there's absolutely no evidence whatsoever of

00:24:48.360 that case. But if somebody takes it personally, that's a terrible thing to think of. Thinking

00:24:51.780 that something you did might've put somebody at risk and it hasn't. I mean, we've seen the numbers.

00:24:55.920 Your vaccination status doesn't impact the infections of other individuals.

00:25:00.380 No, exactly. And I think the other issue we're going to pay for is the long-term damage is done to trust in the authorities in general. I documented in the book how anti-vaxxer was a term reserved for a very small portion of the population, maybe people who didn't believe in any vaccines whatsoever, but it was used over the last year to label essentially anyone who went against the government narrative.

00:25:26.860 it could it could it went against it was used against people who were actually fully vaccinated

00:25:30.860 people who supported the vaccine wholeheartedly but just supposed mandates were anti-vaxxers

00:25:36.780 and in the process um by labeling such a large portion of Canadians as anti-vaxxers and by

00:25:42.460 alienating such a large portion by feeling them making them feel shamed and making them feel uh

00:25:48.060 hate hatred towards them um a lot of people have lost a lot of trust in public health and this

00:25:53.740 will be felt uh when it comes to other vaccines i discussed this in the book how children's

00:25:58.860 immunization rates have already dropped for other regular vaccines for long-standing vaccines such

00:26:04.540 as measles the numbers have already gone down and we can see these numbers go down even further

00:26:10.700 and we can see these numbers coming out in the next few years because people have essentially

00:26:14.460 lost trust in the public health stories because they were alienated um and you know brushed off

00:26:19.260 them for their concerns so yeah we I think we're going to pay a very very high price just this week

00:26:26.140 one of the the opposition leaders in Ontario's recent elections announced that he's going to

00:26:31.660 if he's elected he's going to mandate the COVID vaccine in all elementary schools

00:26:35.660 and while saying that 60 percent of kids in the elementary school program have not been

00:26:41.180 vaccinated yet for COVID so what this potential premier of Ontario wants to do is is force 60

00:26:47.260 have parents to either remove the children's public school system or apply for a vaccine

00:26:54.880 exemption. And in the process, if we have 60% of parents applying for vaccine exemptions,

00:26:59.340 you may have 60% of parents exempting themselves from multiple vaccines. So again, we may see

00:27:05.000 huge drops in just other vaccines as well and just the overall trust in public health authority.

00:27:11.860 Well, yeah, and that's a terrible side effect. I mean, I know there's some individuals,

00:27:15.540 Well, I'm certain there's a few viewers that there have been people who have opposed the

00:27:19.120 vaccination on every level all the time permanently. But I mean, for most people,

00:27:24.940 most tend to agree, hey, you know, mumps, rubella, whooping cough, you know, tetanus,

00:27:30.660 these were very beneficial vaccines. They've prevented a lot of grave illnesses among

00:27:35.520 children. And now that that mistrust is growing in general, yeah, if we have less kids vaccinated

00:27:41.180 with these proven vaccines that are that are effective for them we're all going to suffer

00:27:46.240 I mean it's the complete opposite effect of what these zealots I guess you could almost call them

00:27:49.900 wanted to achieve. Exactly and then and for vaccines that were that may we see we may see

00:27:56.460 a drop in vaccines that actually stop spread you know vaccines that provide almost lifetime immunity

00:28:01.300 you know we I guess we public health authorities I guess they they might have picked the wrong

00:28:09.360 pill to die on I guess or they you know picked this battle and they tried to lump this with

00:28:14.900 every single vaccine and like myself I've been vaccinated for every vaccine ever offered to me

00:28:19.240 I vaccinated all three of my children for every one of their routine vaccinations up to the point

00:28:23.540 but essentially I have been labeled anti-science anti-vaxxer because I have a hesitancy on

00:28:29.780 one single vaccine that's using a revolutionary technology which happens to not really

00:28:35.840 reduce or stop the spread of the virus. It simply might reduce the severity of the symptoms if I

00:28:44.100 happen to get the virus. It's exactly the, that's the danger we're seeing. There's millions of

00:28:53.200 people like me that have been lumped into this category. Yeah, well, and the vitriol hasn't just

00:28:58.840 been limited to people who've chosen not to get vaccinated, but there's people like myself. I

00:29:02.000 chose to get vaccinated and I don't have a problem with it. My big issue is just maintaining though

00:29:07.080 that it has to be a choice for individuals. And choice means, you know, you can still keep your

00:29:13.440 job. You can still travel. You can still visit family. You can still go to a restaurant. Like

00:29:17.500 they've really blurred a line between forcing and coercion, which still, I mean, such strong

00:29:23.720 coercion, you've taken away choice down to such a microscopic level. I don't think anybody could

00:29:28.400 say it was a choice with a straight face. But they just attack anybody who questioned that

00:29:33.580 tactic at all. And it's, again, it's going to leave a mark on society for a long time.

00:29:39.620 Yeah, for sure. And even today, we're still seeing the effects. Most countries have removed

00:29:44.860 most of their mandates, most of their rules. And our country's sticking to our federal travel

00:29:50.440 mandates, which forbids people like me from leaving my country. And there's plenty of

00:29:56.680 countries that would accept me to go travel. I can go take a trip to Mexico right now,

00:30:01.180 which has no rules right now, but my federal government won't allow me on a plane.

00:30:06.620 And that's one of the premise of this book as well. I think most experts agree that it's long

00:30:12.580 past due that we remove the federal travel mandates, but the Truro government seems to

00:30:17.400 be keeping them in place, not based on science, but just based on a vendetta, based on the people

00:30:22.400 that made him look bad back in January and not just back in January we saw that back in September

00:30:28.160 they almost cost him the election you know at every campaign stop he would he would uh vilify

00:30:33.680 those people he kept calling us those people um and uh he's he's kept his vendetta and I think and

00:30:40.640 and that's the motivation for keeping these mandates in place there's still people

00:30:45.040 in the federal public service that uh that exclusively work from home that are that are

00:30:50.880 on still on leave um because they made a different health choice like if that doesn't bother people

00:30:56.400 that's that's it's that's another rule that's being kept in place when they have no scientific

00:31:00.400 basis to it if someone doesn't even have to go into the office but it's still being barred from

00:31:04.080 having income just based on the fact that they decided not to take this vaccine yeah and it's

00:31:09.520 just so politicized i mean the health has been thrown aside and and they some people have found

00:31:13.600 it to be a very effective political football and i mean they've almost lost their minds on some of

00:31:17.360 this like i don't know if you're familiar with there was an incident in alberta with a new

00:31:20.240 Democrat MLA, who actually hacked the Alberta Health Services website to try and get vaccination

00:31:26.760 status information on the conservative politicians. That's still going through the

00:31:31.200 courts. He may be charged for that, of course, criminally, and a number of things. But what was

00:31:35.920 running through this gentleman's mind to think that this was ever appropriate or something you'd

00:31:41.200 want to do? And of course, the goal was he was hoping he could find some politicians he didn't

00:31:45.160 like, find out they weren't vaccinated, and shame them for having chosen to be otherwise? I mean,

00:31:50.600 this is insane. Yeah, there's plenty of examples like that. I document in the book how we,

00:31:59.780 I prefaced this at the beginning, how we turned our societal norms upside down

00:32:04.140 in so many aspects where something even a few years ago, even five years ago, would have

00:32:09.780 sounded preposterous to most public health officials, and today seems completely normal.

00:32:15.160 You know, even if even if there could be made a case that there is a slight reduction in spread between an unvaccinated or a vaccinated person, we would have never succumbed to this type of hatred or division or this type of policies for a seasonal flu vaccine.

00:32:31.060 We would have never even thought of doing this type of division.

00:32:33.800 And here we are today, you know, things that would have been completely forbidden or completely non-mainstream has become completely acceptable.

00:32:47.800 Yeah, well, and there's the health costs, there's the economic costs.

00:32:51.480 I mean, as much as they like to deny it, when Canada's got such a stringent vaccination policy going on, we still have it happening in provinces.

00:32:59.120 We've got BC that fired a great number of health care workers and won't bring them back in, even though there's shortfalls in labor all over the place.

00:33:07.120 We have a lot of private businesses with vaccine mandates.

00:33:09.860 Again, it's having economic repercussions.

00:33:13.780 This is costing us terribly and, again, offering no health benefit out of that.

00:33:20.360 Yeah, exactly.

00:33:21.000 I know a personal example of someone I know who's been let go from a medical setting, from a long-term care home who is constantly short-staffed.

00:33:33.100 And they're letting people go, not just that aren't double vaccinated.

00:33:38.680 They're letting people go that don't get a third shot now.

00:33:41.780 And even then, the data is even grayer.

00:33:45.280 There's not really, you know, a strong case to be made that there's a difference between two doses and three doses, even more so than between completely unvaccinated and fully vaccinated.

00:33:58.300 But, you know, we're seeing huge shortages in the health care field, long-term care homes, and we're letting go qualified people, sending them home when, you know, we should be hiring everybody we can to work in the settings.

00:34:11.860 And same thing with the issues we're seeing at the airports right now, the backups, because airports and airlines have let go of a lot of people.

00:34:21.700 And now they're seeing these backups and issues in labor in these industries.

00:34:29.680 And there's a perfect solution for all these problems.

00:34:33.460 I mean, just stop the employment segregation.

00:34:38.000 It's a no-brainer to me.

00:34:40.200 Yeah, well, and then, of course, and the other part that's a little more abstract, but it's important, is the social cost.

00:34:47.900 I mean, it's harder to measure, but we've really just ruptured our relationships with each other all over the place, workplace, family, things like that.

00:34:55.420 I mean, that's part of what I appreciated in seeing with your book.

00:34:57.340 You're writing from a firsthand account.

00:34:59.280 Like you've, you know, you're writing from the heart.

00:35:02.280 You've felt this.

00:35:02.940 This is causing stress and problems to personal individuals and people need to hear that and

00:35:08.820 understand it. Yeah, exactly. I mean, that's what I say in the book. We've had the unvaccinated

00:35:15.720 people have had much harder. A lot of them have had a much harder time than I have over the last

00:35:22.600 year. A lot of people have lost jobs. I've been lucky in that sense. I haven't lost my job. I

00:35:27.240 but what's hurt me the most is the social cost it's the it's the constant stigmatization the

00:35:34.760 dehumanizing policies you know hearing that that back at christmas that you know alberta passed

00:35:41.640 the law alberta and bc passed a law that essentially made it illegal for unvaccinated

00:35:45.240 people to have a single visitor i don't know if a lot of people wrote these rules but it was the

00:35:49.880 the morality of it that you know you know the gap your gathering was now deemed illegal by

00:35:54.280 your government that's to me that that traumatized me to think that my government was able to do that

00:35:59.160 to essentially come into my private home and tell me who uh who i can and can't have over

00:36:04.360 and then also having you know trusted health authorities issue guidelines that would say you

00:36:09.960 know this christmas avoid your unvaccinated family members and a lot of families didn't follow those

00:36:14.600 rules and still got together but many did many followed those rules and many ruined their families

00:36:19.560 forever by saying, yeah, we're not going to see each other. That's not something that's going to

00:36:24.440 be mended overnight or mended very quickly when you decide to go that route. And a lot of people,

00:36:32.680 you know, might have gone that route without thinking too critically about it.

00:36:37.400 So I put a lot of the blame on the health authorities who took advantage of these things

00:36:41.480 and came out with these guidelines that shouldn't have been put out there. You know, in no time in

00:36:46.680 history have ever ever told people at christmas please avoid people who haven't had their flu

00:36:51.240 shot but again we we turned our societal norms upside down with this pandemic this obsession

00:37:01.640 yeah that's all we can hope for i guess is that we learn from it i mean it's already passed but

00:37:05.400 we still have things that we have to uh there's still threats to our freedoms and into things

00:37:09.960 carrying on right now and there's still some some legislation hanging there that hopefully

00:37:13.880 is going away soon, but it's important to document it and learn from these things because

00:37:18.020 this won't be the last pandemic that comes. This won't be the last virus. So that's why things like

00:37:23.140 your book, I mean, you know, maybe it's 10 years from now, maybe it's 20 years from now, but some

00:37:26.580 people can read back and say, this is what happened last time. It didn't work. It wasn't worth it.

00:37:31.680 Let's learn. I guess that's all we could really hope because aside from that, we've already gone

00:37:35.680 through this two years of misery. So I appreciate you doing that. Where can people find more

00:37:40.560 information about yourself and where to find your book and pick up a copy for themselves?

00:37:46.120 Well, they can find me on Twitter at just Mr. Rejanven. I'm on Substack, writing some other

00:37:53.420 topics mostly related to the pandemic recently because that dominates all the news, but

00:37:57.640 rejanven.substack.com. And then the book is available on Amazon right now. Best place to

00:38:04.660 buy it online. Yeah, that's where you find me. Excellent. Well, I do appreciate you writing it

00:38:12.240 up and sharing that and getting the book out there. And of course, I appreciate you coming

00:38:15.740 on to talk with us today. And all we can do is just keep pushing and hoping for better times

00:38:20.240 in the future. And as I said, learning from our mistakes. So thank you again, Mr. Venn. And

00:38:24.420 perhaps we'll talk again down the road. Thanks. Thanks, Corey. Great. Thanks. So yeah, that was

00:38:30.580 Rajon Venn. And just to review again, that book, as he said, is available on Amazon. It's called

00:38:37.220 Unvaccinated, How Canada Turned to Hatred and Division. And yes, you know, these reads are

00:38:43.480 important. Documenting these things is important. Learning from these things. I just worry, have we

00:38:49.260 figured anything out yet? Have we learned from this? Because if we don't, we're going to do it

00:38:55.960 again. We're going to do it again. The government, authoritarians, people who want control, people

00:39:00.220 who want to politicize health issues have gotten away with something. And they will have only

00:39:04.560 continued to get away with something if we let them. So we have to keep these issues on the

00:39:09.660 forefront. We have to show the consequences of their policies. And people dismiss the consequences

00:39:14.980 on those because it has been divided. It's been those people, those unvaccinated people,

00:39:19.660 those anti-vaxxers. Well, they're still people. They're people. And you've caused serious economic,

00:39:24.900 social, emotional damage to them. If it was any other identifiable group, the way they've been

00:39:30.740 treated this last year, two years, would be almost, it would be a hate crime. But when it comes to

00:39:37.160 medical choice, then suddenly villainization of people is okay. And again, it's totally wrong.

00:39:44.180 It has to be a choice. So Mr. Venn has written on that. It's appreciated. We've got to read from

00:39:49.180 other people who've been through it. I, like I said, I've always been outspoken supporting

00:39:54.380 choice. I chose to get vaccinated. I didn't have to deal with the hindrances. I didn't, well,

00:39:58.860 the Western standard, we don't have medical demands upon our staff, but I could travel.

00:40:02.800 I could get on planes. I could go to restaurants during that period of time when it was mandated

00:40:06.460 that you had to be vaccinated for it. But at the same time, you know what? You can take part in

00:40:10.660 those things and still appreciate and respect other people's rights to choose otherwise. And

00:40:15.420 we don't have nearly enough of that, that polarization, that splitting of society,

00:40:19.540 that splitting of people, it's come at a cost and it's going to be a long-term cost.

00:40:24.800 And I don't know how long it'll take us to fully recover from it. Let's get on some more news

00:40:29.700 about these things and the ridiculousness of government. Dave mentioned this with the news

00:40:33.220 check-in, but the minister's story contradicted. So the police never asked cabinet to invoke the

00:40:39.840 Emergencies Act, the RCMP said last night. This is huge. This is something you really should be

00:40:44.860 paying attention to, is that should be the number one area if, if, and we know they should never

00:40:49.880 have invoked the Emergencies Act. I mean, it's an extreme measure. It was stepping on individuals'

00:40:54.060 rights. It was setting aside your civil rights to control and contain what they felt was an

00:41:00.140 emergency. So pressing, there was no other way to do it. The only possible justification you should

00:41:05.640 have is our top police officers coming in and saying, this is more than we can handle. This

00:41:09.920 is beyond our control. The public is unsafe. We need the Emergencies Measures Act. It's the only

00:41:15.660 way when you can start on that. And it turns out the RCMP never asked cabinet to do it. Never. Not

00:41:22.400 once. And the claims from the public safety minister, Marco Medicino saying he was acting

00:41:28.980 on the advice of law enforcement. That's in quotes. He's lying. He's lying to our faces.

00:41:36.560 You know, it's one of the things in parliament and committee when they're in those vaunted

00:41:39.680 They have privilege. You can't be sued or brought up for BSing, unfortunately. There's a lot of things. Because I tell you what, how many times we can allow these people in authority to lie to our faces, particularly on something as important as bringing about a law that stepped on the rights of individual Canadians, bringing in the Emergencies Act, which is, and I like to remind people, it's a form of the War Measures Act.

00:42:07.820 that's how extreme it is. I mean, it was talking about pressing people into labor, forcing tow

00:42:12.600 truck drivers to work under threat of law. It was talking about arresting people without charges and

00:42:18.300 being able to hold them. It was talking about seizing people's property through their accounts.

00:42:22.160 It was banning gathering, expression, assembly. So many charter rights were set aside based on it

00:42:29.940 supposedly being completely out of control of the government to manage otherwise.

00:42:33.640 it was based on a lie and they're still lying they're still lying to us and uh when is this

00:42:42.060 going to stop when are we going to hold them accountable so i mean yeah brenda lucky that

00:42:45.800 the rcmp commissioner was testifying at a joint committee on the declaration and she denies it

00:42:50.060 she says they never recommended cabinet declare a national emergency she says she she said she

00:42:56.840 or senator vernon white said we heard multiple times from ministers and others that the emergencies

00:43:01.040 Act and the tools provided were specifically requested by police leadership. Well, we can't

00:43:05.420 find any police leadership that says that they did that. So where do we sit? You know, I personally,

00:43:12.260 I mean, I know it gets to extremes. This government needs to be held to account.

00:43:17.720 They suspended our rights based on lies. No wonder they repealed that, you know, within 48 hours of

00:43:25.560 when they fully brought it in after Justin got into bed with Jagmeet Singh to shove that

00:43:30.980 through. This thing couldn't hold up to withstand Senate examinations. But we're following up on it

00:43:38.400 now. This should be making a lot bigger news. No, this should be making a lot bigger news. The

00:43:44.820 police were given the powers to ban public assemblies, blacklist account holders, people

00:43:50.280 suspected of sympathizing. 230 people were arrested under that act. Almost $8 million in bank accounts

00:43:59.340 were frozen, frozen. Other people's money, it was stolen is the way I put it. Even if it's given

00:44:04.240 back later, it's not yours to take. And that public safety minister stated, they've said 11

00:44:10.140 times, 11 times he's on the record of saying that they were acting on police advice. And he was

00:44:14.900 lying. He lied to our faces. He lied to committee. He lied in the house 11 times. And the police have

00:44:22.120 called him out on it. Are we hearing much? No, we're not hearing from our state broadcaster,

00:44:27.780 the CBC. They're writing about how, and that's quite a bizarre story, a big long column on how

00:44:34.240 perhaps it's inappropriate for anybody to buy art from somebody who was of another race. Yes,

00:44:39.900 that's really where they're going with things. It's important that if we bought indigenous art

00:44:44.500 and you're not indigenous, you might not be entitled to do that and you shouldn't do it. 0.91

00:44:47.520 This is going to be hard actually on indigenous artists who come up with some fantastic stuff 0.99

00:44:51.360 out there, or they're talking about black artists and a number of artists saying, no,

00:44:54.860 it's cultural theft if we have non-black people owning their art. It's ridiculous. But that's 0.99

00:45:00.840 where the CBC is. We've got cabinet ministers stepping on the rights of Canadians based on

00:45:06.060 lies. And the CBC is reporting on that. CTV, Global, the rest of those ones that are taking in

00:45:12.600 federal tax dollars, taking in your tax dollars to keep themselves going. Of course, they're not

00:45:17.640 talking about this. Why? They don't want to shake up the government boat. That's where their money's

00:45:21.700 coming in from? They aren't going to make that a top story. Why is this not a giant headline?

00:45:27.060 Cabinet ministers lied to Canadians 11 times to invoke an act that was going to suppress their

00:45:33.740 individual rights. That should be headlines for a week. We're barely hearing a peep about it.

00:45:38.280 So again, I want to remind you guys, that's why you got to subscribe to the Western Standard. For

00:45:42.000 one, we will report on these things and we do not take tax dollars. So we don't turn into the

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00:47:08.420 the liberals coming after your stuff. It sounds like a story is breaking. Dave was talking about

00:47:12.620 that. Somebody emailed me about that recently. It looks like the liberals are trying another

00:47:16.640 backdoor way to get into a long gun registry. They just won't give up. And they're going to

00:47:21.340 steal your firearms, guys. They're going to. They keep using orders in council to recategorize them

00:47:26.160 and take them away from you. And I call it theft because it is. Oh, we'll compensate. It doesn't

00:47:30.080 matter. If you take somebody's property away from them without their permission, it's theft. It

00:47:33.760 doesn't matter if you give them money for it afterwards. So my firearms aren't for sale. So

00:47:39.520 go away. And they're never taking them from me. But we got to stand up for yourselves, guys. That

00:47:46.120 means helping them because they're doing court challenges. They're standing up for you. They are

00:47:51.200 getting the word out on the actions the government's trying to do. So check them out. Great

00:47:55.020 sponsor, Canadian Shooting Sports Association. Take out a membership with them because that's

00:47:58.340 the only way they can keep helping you guys. And, uh, it is important. So, uh, what's this Debbie

00:48:05.900 McKenzie saying? The gun grab issue is coming up in parliament today. Great. We will be looking 0.98

00:48:09.580 forward to that. Uh, Johnny Arabian saying gun sales are way up. Yeah, I can believe it. You

00:48:14.600 know, with a lot of the things that have been happening with firearms, uh, things that, uh,

00:48:18.660 uh, gotten people, uh, wound up lately or just worried about personal security,

00:48:24.280 they've been getting more firearms, whether the government likes it or not. Some of the prices

00:48:28.300 have been going up too. I saw Tiffany, who's on social media quite a bit. I know during the day

00:48:32.660 she's working. I don't think she tunes into the show that often, but she was tweeting out that

00:48:36.120 because she's in a firearm aficionado with SKS is up for $600 right now, wishing she'd gotten into

00:48:42.000 them earlier because she could get them a couple of years ago for $200 each. I managed to pick one

00:48:47.520 up for $400 not too long ago. Prices of firearms are going up as demand is going up. And I think

00:48:52.260 some people are also realizing the government's out to make another grab pretty soon. So you might

00:48:56.900 want to grab them now and get them and set them aside for yourselves before the government gets

00:49:02.780 in your way for it. And if they recategorize things, you know, I don't know, I've heard a

00:49:07.180 lot of people just, oh, darn, a gun fell out of the boat and sunk to the bottom of the lake,

00:49:10.840 I'll report it as such, or it got stolen or whatever happens. But either way, your right 0.96

00:49:16.320 and ability to have firearms is always under threat, particularly when there's a liberal

00:49:20.420 government in. And meanwhile, in Calgary, we are in the middle of a gang war. You know,

00:49:26.100 I talked about that with guests last week. It seems in the news this morning, that was a big

00:49:30.080 one. We're going to get more details out of that in Forest Lawn, East Calgary. The streets have

00:49:36.080 been closed for 12 hours. I don't even know if they're open yet. There was a shootout on 17th

00:49:41.680 Avenue and 36th Street. At least one person dead, one person in hospital, one running away with a

00:49:45.940 gun, multiple vehicles. Yes, a classic gangland shooting. I'll bet you, here's where I'm going to

00:49:52.080 go on a limb. I'll bet you if and when they ever catch all the perpetrators and find out what's

00:49:56.120 going on, that not a single one of the firearms were owned by legal firearm owners, nor were they

00:50:01.140 purchased legally in the first place. They will have been smuggled firearms, brought in, or stolen.

00:50:06.660 But what does the government crack down on? The law-abiding firearm owners. And that's not stopping,

00:50:11.140 of course, any of these issues whatsoever. That's not helping a bit. So that's where we're at.

00:50:18.660 And yeah, it's a mess. So let's see what else we got here. Inflation. You know, we're always

00:50:25.340 talking about that. That's another story. Cost hammers, households. Inflation is forcing Canadians

00:50:29.720 to take on second jobs, postponing retirement, canceling vacations. This is research in the

00:50:35.000 Privy Council office. So the federal government, they know it. They know what they're doing to us,

00:50:39.420 but what are they doing? Well, they're shutting down our industries. They're cracking down on the

00:50:44.420 energy sector. You know, C69, Trudeau wants to fight and make sure that we still remain

00:50:49.620 unviable as a place to invest in. Like if you want to help the economy, you got, you can't

00:50:54.480 borrow yourself to prosperity. I think it was Churchill who said it, you know, it was something

00:51:00.200 like trying to borrow yourself to prosperity or tax yourself there is akin to standing in a bucket

00:51:04.520 and trying to lift yourself up by the handle. I'm probably slaughtering that quote, but you get the

00:51:07.940 principle of it, right? It doesn't work. But that's what the liberal government wants to keep doing.

00:51:11.820 Look, the only way we're all going to get better off, maintain our standard of living, keep things

00:51:14.980 going, is having the economic drivers of our country smoothly and growing. And that's a huge

00:51:20.540 part of it in Canada is oil and gas. And we have an ideologically blinded federal government that

00:51:26.280 is busy doing everything they can to shut it down. So we should be very, very concerned here.

00:51:33.240 And then meanwhile, they do know the cost of living for everything is going up.

00:51:37.940 You know, we are under pressure.

00:51:39.800 We are in trouble.

00:51:41.160 And inflation's running at 6.7% on average.

00:51:44.620 Like this is record stuff going on, guys.

00:51:47.660 And where are they going?

00:51:49.540 Not in a good way.

00:51:50.820 Let me just see if I've heard anything from my prospective guest there.

00:51:53.480 No, he seems to be running behind there.

00:51:56.140 But hopefully we get Mr. Harding in soon.

00:52:00.300 So we can discuss that.

00:52:01.620 And yes, it always frustrates when people don't quite make it on time.

00:52:05.280 But let's see, there's always more stuff to talk about, guys.

00:52:09.660 Slavica, Corey, when are you going to stop complaining about the government?

00:52:11.980 When are you going to amend our constitution to take charge?

00:52:14.060 Well, Slavica, I know you've got that petition thing in mind and go to town with it.

00:52:18.860 You can't petition your way to constitutional change, but I wish you all the best in trying.

00:52:23.140 I'm not going to stop complaining about the government because it's actually my job.

00:52:25.920 I am an opinion columnist and I do write about things that I feel the government is doing wrong.

00:52:29.540 I do write about a lot of solutions and talk about them as well on the show.

00:52:33.520 We just differ on what the solutions might be.

00:52:36.660 So I appreciate efforts on every direction and what people are trying to do and where they're moving.

00:52:42.080 I don't see a path to constitutional amendment until a province is either right on the complete brink of secession or one has actually gone.

00:52:52.040 We do have the mechanism.

00:52:53.400 It's in the Clarity Act.

00:52:54.440 It can be done through invoking a clear referendum in a province.

00:52:59.960 It has to be a province on the question of secession.

00:53:03.580 And then the act does obligate the government to negotiate that province's exit in good faith.

00:53:10.440 But in the meantime, I can report on the issues and I'll continue to.

00:53:15.200 And well, and again, if your means, Slavica, of petitioning our way into constitutional change works, then power to you.

00:53:21.420 I agree. I look forward to it working.

00:53:23.100 But the mechanism is questionable.

00:53:26.180 But there's no easy ways.

00:53:27.500 There's certainly none of those.

00:53:28.360 And you've got to keep trying.

00:53:29.840 Let's look at speaking of subsidies.

00:53:31.440 Check this stuff out.

00:53:32.360 So the subsidy is up to $862 per rider via rail subsidies last year.

00:53:39.440 Yeah, this is how bad rail is getting.

00:53:41.880 Again, when government pouring money in things that aren't economically viable.

00:53:45.000 We had a couple of our columnists debating high-speed rail in Alberta,

00:53:48.120 whether it was worthwhile or would be viable and so on.

00:53:51.320 and it's gotten up to $862 per rider.

00:53:56.320 Some were as low as $35 per rider.

00:53:59.160 This is for every passenger.

00:54:00.520 This is a financial statement

00:54:01.640 that was disclosed yesterday from Via Rail.

00:54:03.820 That's a Crown Railway.

00:54:04.920 Nobody can run anything worse than government.

00:54:06.740 You know, we did have a government

00:54:08.020 managed to lose money

00:54:09.100 with a Tim Hortons in a hospital. 0.96

00:54:10.880 That shows how incompetent they are.

00:54:12.840 So, of course, running a railway, 1.00

00:54:13.960 they're terrible.

00:54:14.840 And they're saying that ticket sales

00:54:16.240 remain at a fraction of pre-pandemic levels.

00:54:19.100 Well, nobody wants to ride the bloody train.

00:54:20.640 Nobody's going anywhere.

00:54:21.900 I mean, some of it, too.

00:54:22.580 I think on those trains, they still have to show vaccination, I believe.

00:54:25.200 I'm not sure, though.

00:54:26.940 But look at the numbers of those subsidies.

00:54:29.600 I mean, come on, guys.

00:54:31.400 Oh, the plug.

00:54:32.720 They lost $370 million just last year.

00:54:38.540 It's their full-time payroll.

00:54:40.560 They did cut, but they're still bleeding money terribly.

00:54:44.220 How long before we got to say this?

00:54:45.480 This isn't working.

00:54:47.140 So, yeah, here's the numbers.

00:54:48.200 $35 per passenger.

00:54:49.640 These are the subsidies.

00:54:50.500 These are the dollars you shelled out for other people

00:54:52.680 that should just be able to pay their own bills riding.

00:54:55.400 So the busiest route between Toronto, Ottawa, and Montreal,

00:54:57.580 $35 a passenger, you subsidize them for.

00:55:01.020 From Toronto to Niagara Falls, $97 a passenger.

00:55:05.140 Well, here we go.

00:55:05.660 We get into the West, fair enough.

00:55:07.440 The Jasper to Prince Rupert route, which is really cool.

00:55:10.620 I mean, that's some mountain riding and things like that.

00:55:13.980 $515 a passenger, though we're subsidizing it by.

00:55:16.440 Or the ocean route from Halifax to Montreal, that's 535 there.

00:55:22.120 It's 515 on the Jasper one.

00:55:24.020 600 for transcontinental from Toronto to Vancouver.

00:55:27.160 Come on.

00:55:27.560 And it just keeps going on and on and on.

00:55:30.480 862 from Winnipeg to Churchill, Manitoba.

00:55:33.140 And it's still not cheap to even get on these things.

00:55:35.240 This is just, you know, we're subsidized on top of that.

00:55:38.340 And what does the government say?

00:55:40.820 Well, they're saying they're not going to do anything about it.

00:55:42.000 They say, this is Al Gabra or whatever his name was there,

00:55:44.560 that transportation minister, that little weird looking fella. He's saying our government's not

00:55:48.440 privatizing VIA. We're investing in VIA to increase public transportation. It doesn't matter if we

00:55:53.280 don't want to bloody ride it, you guys. It's throwing good money after bad. Subsidies aren't

00:55:58.100 bringing people on. It's too expensive. It's unviable. Pull the pin. But guess what? It's

00:56:03.000 mostly a central Canadian corporation company, so it's not going anywhere. You're going to have to

00:56:07.580 keep paying for it. This is what happens here in Calgary. I've been ranting about that. That was

00:56:12.740 big yesterday. It's been a lot of ongoing discussion on social media and it's big in

00:56:17.320 evidence everywhere. But I was talking about, you know, the light rail transit system here in

00:56:21.220 Calgary. The crime is just out of control. It's nuts. And we got city councillors saying quit

00:56:26.880 shaming the criminals. Oh, piss off. We got a problem. In Calgary, only 54% of people returned 0.99

00:56:33.940 to the train since the pandemic has basically ended. Everybody's coming back to work, but

00:56:37.620 barely over half are still using that train because it's so dangerous. It's so filthy.

00:56:42.920 It's so scary. And we're pouring loads of money into that. And one of the areas that somebody's

00:56:49.440 proposing is why don't we actually start making sure people pay for their tickets? Here's an idea.

00:56:53.720 Maybe the troublemakers aren't the ones who pay for their tickets. Oh, that guy's being shamed.

00:56:58.240 He's being attacked. This is the lunacy of progressives. We would rather run empty trains 0.98

00:57:04.640 full of criminals and crackheads 0.87

00:57:06.020 and watch the stabbings build up 0.99

00:57:07.800 and watch all this happen

00:57:08.780 than charge people

00:57:11.300 for their bloody tickets?

00:57:13.820 You know, there could be some room

00:57:16.740 for improvement on a lot of levels,

00:57:20.500 but they won't even entertain

00:57:21.700 the discussion.

00:57:22.340 They just want to keep 0.85

00:57:22.900 pouring more money at it.

00:57:23.920 It's not working.

00:57:25.220 It's not working.

00:57:29.440 Let's see. 1.00

00:57:31.760 Better refugees. 0.61

00:57:32.960 So the feds, yeah, they're going to try and save the Pipeline Act. 0.97

00:57:36.280 It's another news story.

00:57:37.060 But yeah, the cabinet, you know, as I said earlier in my monologue,

00:57:41.080 that the prime minister is saying they're certainly going to appeal it.

00:57:45.140 And then he said the previous conservative government gutted environmental protection.

00:57:48.100 Oh, I only wish.

00:57:49.480 Erodded public trust and discouraged investment. 1.00

00:57:52.400 Oh, Trudeau, you're full of crap. 0.99

00:57:54.180 And they say that they made it harder for major projects to be built, 1.00

00:57:57.960 which again is a load of garbage. 0.94

00:57:59.840 I mean, Trudeau has shut everything down since he got in. 0.98

00:58:01.700 And the only thing hanging in there is the Trans Mountain line. 0.99

00:58:05.100 And the only reason that got going is because the imbecile took the tax dollars of ours 0.99

00:58:08.920 and poured it into it and bought it. 0.99

00:58:11.240 And again, there was a private company that was more than willing to build that line.

00:58:15.260 The government just needed to get out of the way.

00:58:18.900 So sorry, Justin, that doesn't work.

00:58:22.100 But he's going to appeal it.

00:58:23.040 And again, I say he'll probably win.

00:58:24.640 He'll probably win.

00:58:25.300 It's going to the Canadian Supreme Court.

00:58:26.940 That's a stacked court.

00:58:27.800 We're not going to do well there.

00:58:29.840 And it doesn't matter what our Constitution is.

00:58:33.040 As we've seen, our Constitution seems to be a flexible document.

00:58:36.200 So when you get Central Canada versus Western Canada,

00:58:39.040 guys, we're not going to be on the winning end of that.

00:58:40.880 But we'll see.

00:58:41.700 And I mean, it took, what, two years and some for it,

00:58:45.120 two and a half, almost three years to get it through the courts

00:58:47.740 just on the Alberta Provincial Appeals.

00:58:49.920 So who knows how long before the feds get it to the Supreme Court.

00:58:53.020 I don't hold out much hope, though,

00:58:55.700 that the Supreme Court is going to stand up the same as the Alberta Court of Appeals.

00:58:59.040 and protect our abilities in the West.

00:59:04.500 Meanwhile, though, and this is where we got to get worried about,

00:59:06.860 it is oil and gas sectors raking in unprecedented profits.

00:59:11.420 Yes, that's because the prices are up.

00:59:13.840 But also what I see is it puts a big target on our back.

00:59:17.600 This happens every time.

00:59:18.680 This happened back in the 70s and in the 80s,

00:59:22.260 and it's going to happen again now.

00:59:24.020 It's going to turn from, you know, when oil is down at $10 a barrel

00:59:26.820 or even was it at zero, suddenly it was Alberta's oil. It was Saskatchewan's oil. It's the West's

00:59:30.880 oil. We don't want it. It's not our problem. You move on to windmills if you want to make money.

00:59:34.560 Now that it's at a high price, suddenly it's going to become Canada's oil.

00:59:38.740 Watch for it, guys. Watch for it. They will not leave this alone if it keeps up like this much

00:59:43.220 longer. So they're already going to start demonizing. We're going to see those headlines.

00:59:47.580 Those oil companies are profiting. You know, they spit up profit as if it's an evil word. It's not,

00:59:52.700 guys. If you worry about corporate profits, that's a much longer discussion too. The people

00:59:58.100 who think corporate profits are a bad thing, look into how your pension plan works, whatever it

01:00:04.580 might be, whether it's a government one, a private one, or even just your own mutual funds. Where do

01:00:10.820 you think that profit goes? There's a lot of people thinking some Scrooge McDuck is just

01:00:14.460 swimming in a bin full of money. No, these are pensions. Pension funds are the massive shareholders

01:00:19.740 of these corporations.

01:00:21.980 And if they don't have profit, your funds don't grow.

01:00:24.760 When you spit out that corporate profit is evil,

01:00:27.640 you should understand

01:00:28.880 that you're talking about your own money

01:00:30.500 in a lot of cases.

01:00:32.400 So if you're looking to retire at some point,

01:00:34.780 and if you want your retirement savings,

01:00:37.120 whether again, they were taken off in CPP

01:00:38.880 or hopefully in an Alberta pension plan

01:00:40.940 or in a private plan,

01:00:42.160 if you want them to grow as fast or faster than inflation,

01:00:46.000 you need corporate profit.

01:00:48.500 And what do we got though?

01:00:49.200 we're divesting. We're going to get out of investing in oil companies. You idiots. Look at

01:00:53.060 the money they're setting aside. They do have big profits. They're going to somebody divesting. Well,

01:00:58.460 you're just letting somebody else take it. But again, worry, because when the government sees

01:01:01.980 other people's money, they want to steal it. So yeah, Suncor tripled its earnings and profits

01:01:08.020 went from 821 million to 2.95 billion in the first quarter. You know, CNRL brought in 2 billion in

01:01:15.720 net income in the fourth quarter of 2021.

01:01:18.720 But everybody forgets when they lost money.

01:01:20.640 And we're seeing those headlines.

01:01:21.480 This headline I noticed was touched.

01:01:22.700 I can't remember which publication I got it out of it.

01:01:25.020 It says, oil companies profiting

01:01:26.660 while Canadians are suffering under inflation.

01:01:28.340 So again, that's where the government

01:01:29.580 will start to frame things.

01:01:30.600 We've got to take this money away from them 0.99

01:01:32.820 for the sake of Canadians. 1.00

01:01:34.840 We've got to step on jurisdiction 0.77

01:01:37.320 for the sake of Canadians. 1.00

01:01:39.160 They did it before, guys.

01:01:40.120 It was called the National Energy Program. 0.97

01:01:42.560 The West got raped. 0.96

01:01:44.700 They came in, they forced us to sell 0.99

01:01:46.960 at far below world prices to the rest of Canada.

01:01:50.720 They, again, stepped on our constitutional rights.

01:01:52.640 So the constitution doesn't mean a damn thing

01:01:54.000 when push comes to shove,

01:01:54.880 when it comes to things like that.

01:01:56.900 And then when Mulroney got in, he says,

01:01:58.380 he got in finally and said,

01:01:59.740 yeah, yeah, I'm going to get rid of it.

01:02:00.940 That's what he got elected on.

01:02:01.860 He waited until the oil prices dropped, though.

01:02:04.100 He kept it in for a year and a half

01:02:05.380 after he got elected.

01:02:06.180 So let's not forget that.

01:02:07.060 The Conservatives didn't serve us much better.

01:02:09.720 And then when the oil prices dropped,

01:02:10.880 there was the other flip side

01:02:11.960 of the national energy program.

01:02:13.560 We would have actually, the rest of Canada would have had to pay a higher price for our oil when the prices were low.

01:02:19.340 But no, when that comes along, they say, okay, used and abused, rode hard, put away wet.

01:02:24.320 We're going to get rid of this policy.

01:02:25.860 And yeah, the West, you're on your own.

01:02:27.300 Enjoy your $10 barrel oil.

01:02:29.540 It's happening again, guys.

01:02:31.420 It's happening again.

01:02:32.840 Just watch for it.

01:02:36.180 This is, again, just more on Trudeau.

01:02:38.340 I don't want to talk anymore about that guy.

01:02:40.660 it's opposition members were laughing when trudeau was talking about how uh the conservatives had

01:02:46.420 held up things oh yeah as soon as the liberals again uh getting to government incompetence in

01:02:50.640 general uh they have good news for canadians waiting for passports the people who process

01:02:54.880 the applications are going back to work in person this week this has been a huge problem for a lot

01:02:59.360 of people i actually had to get my mp to contact and intervene last uh december because i was

01:03:05.640 trying to get out of the country and my passport took four months to renew just a renewal

01:03:09.500 Well, they got lost in processing. 1.00

01:03:12.160 Yeah, whatever, you idiots. 1.00

01:03:14.340 And this is happening to tens of thousands of Canadians. 1.00

01:03:18.120 It's all backed up with these bureaucrats, these civil servants.

01:03:21.440 It's too difficult for them to figure out how to get back to work.

01:03:24.280 Get to work.

01:03:25.480 Why are they waiting this long?

01:03:26.800 But yes, so the Liberals have finally determined over a debate in the House of Commons.

01:03:31.340 Yeah, we're going to actually get people back to work.

01:03:34.720 Maybe that'll work on improving the service.

01:03:36.720 Good thinking, guys.

01:03:37.440 I'm glad you came up with that.

01:03:39.500 why were they still gone? You know, everybody else has been getting back to work for months now,

01:03:44.260 but welcome to the civil service. I'm sure they'll get bonuses for their work there as well.

01:03:51.600 So yes, and then of course there's the usual talk, you know, from the minister for families

01:03:55.240 and so on and so on. I understand the frustration. Oh, BS. You guys bounce around flying all over

01:04:00.300 the country, all over the world, wherever you like. You go to these conferences, you go to

01:04:04.140 photo opportunities. You never have problems with this. When you want to renew a passport,

01:04:08.080 you get it done immediately you can't sympathize you have no clue

01:04:14.240 oh what else have we got going on here

01:04:20.160 well poor harvests due to climate change of course is out of the couch but either way we

01:04:24.400 we've got other issues coming as well supply chain you know things just keep going on and 0.98

01:04:28.320 on the main thing is the pandemic and the ukrainian mess is going to be causing what

01:04:32.720 we got now is a cooking oil shortage so all these specific things you never think much about

01:04:38.080 but they have a greater impact on your prices and things in general all the time.

01:04:41.920 And cooking oil of all things. Yes, this is one of them. It's going up. You know what? I owned a

01:04:47.320 restaurant for some years. I remember when you got deep fryers and you run a lot of stuff through us,

01:04:51.480 North Americans love our deep fried stuff. You go through, you know, 50, 100 gallons of

01:04:56.240 cooking oil a week. And that price is a big one. And well, that's another one coming up. So

01:05:01.480 restaurant prices you've probably already seen have been going up a lot. Well, that's going to

01:05:05.460 add to them even further, guys. Or if they're unprincipled restaurants, they just won't change

01:05:09.920 the oil as often. And you'll find that in the flavor. So when your French fries start tasting

01:05:16.120 like the fish, you know they haven't changed the oil in a bit. You might want to reconsider your

01:05:20.700 dining areas or stay away from the deep fried stuff. But they're on a narrow margin. They're

01:05:24.580 trying to pay the bills. Dave mentioned as well, yes, the latest fear is coming along. CTV,

01:05:31.360 The two new Omicron sub-variants are driving the surge in South Africa.

01:05:36.160 Sorry, South Africa starts there.

01:05:37.620 You know, fine. 0.64

01:05:38.940 And guess what?

01:05:39.380 It doesn't turn into anything here, but it doesn't matter.

01:05:41.220 The mainstream media is reporting on this.

01:05:43.520 This is headline.

01:05:44.460 They're saying to you, get scared, everybody.

01:05:47.340 Be afraid.

01:05:48.760 Get ready.

01:05:49.720 Get ready for more lockdowns.

01:05:53.680 Get ready for more restrictions because here comes the latest thing to be afraid of.

01:05:59.160 And here it is.

01:06:01.040 So, yeah, that's where we're sitting on that.

01:06:04.040 Let's see here.

01:06:04.700 We've also got a U.S. senator calling us a bunch of military freeloaders.

01:06:09.900 Yeah, I didn't get senator's name in that headline.

01:06:12.040 But that's something that's been coming on for a long time.

01:06:13.880 You know, in Canada, we've always talked big, but for a long time, we've contributed little

01:06:18.060 when it comes to the world scene, actually, in military, whether it's NATO or UN or just

01:06:22.340 in general in peacekeeping and that.

01:06:23.820 We don't put in nearly as much as we used to and as much as we say.

01:06:28.220 We used to punch above our weight for a small country and now we punch way under it and we're

01:06:32.460 being called out for it. It's hard not to. I'm not, it's a bigger, wider debate as to whether

01:06:37.700 or not we should expand any military spending or not. But as it's standing right now, we're not

01:06:44.380 winning the world's respect on things in general. I'm just looking at a quick email here.

01:06:54.440 Okay. Somebody's saying they haven't found the show today. I'll look into that.

01:06:58.220 But either way, so I'm going to wrap things up.

01:07:02.000 I'm afraid my guest, Lee Harding, is, I don't know.

01:07:05.940 He's gone AWOL, so I'm afraid I won't have him on.

01:07:08.520 We were going to talk about a new political party forming in Saskatchewan.

01:07:11.760 We're still going to report on that and watch it.

01:07:13.400 You know, we have our Saskatchewan reporter out there, Chris Oldcorn.

01:07:15.840 He's always on top of that, too.

01:07:17.340 So make sure to go to the Western Standard and catch those things

01:07:20.760 and keep up to date with it.

01:07:22.140 We'll follow up on it further as that develops.

01:07:25.020 And tomorrow I'm going to have Kalaya Carrington on.

01:07:27.420 she's going to talk about blockchain developments and things such as that. We're going to do something

01:07:31.120 a little different. Our intrepid reporter, Mel Rizdin, and she's always putting out a lot of

01:07:36.100 great stories and digging into things. And she does a lot of great digital video specials all

01:07:39.680 the time too, and things like that. We're going to put her out on the streets and we're going to

01:07:42.860 do some live street hits. We're actually going to have Mel out there with a microphone on the spot, 1.00

01:07:47.960 talking to some folks live on the streets and getting their feedback on whatever issue we think

01:07:52.320 is topping things tomorrow in the area around here. And it'll be a little different, a little

01:07:56.000 interactive and a little fun and hopefully informative. You know, get some different

01:07:59.320 voices talking on this show and things like that. So check that out. We'll be doing that tomorrow.

01:08:03.660 And yeah, so thank you all for who have tuned in today, guys. I appreciate it. And I look forward

01:08:09.240 to seeing you all tomorrow at 1130 a.m. Oh, and reminder, the pipeline will be on tonight. And

01:08:14.000 that's where Dave, Derek, and I will all get together and babble about political policies

01:08:18.260 then too. So till then, guys, I'll see you tomorrow.

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Western Standard - May 12, 2022

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