Western Standard - Trudeau Liberals are actively subverting free speech rights.

00:00:00.000 Good evening, Western Standard viewers. I'm Nigel Hannaford, and welcome to The Hannaford Show.

00:00:22.940 With me today is David Lees. David is a vice president at the Frontier Center for Public Policy.

00:00:32.560 They're based out of Winnipeg, a long-time organization doing quality research on issues relating to government and public policy.

00:00:42.500 In Western liberal democracies, we are so anxious to make sure that minorities are not victimized by majorities

00:00:49.520 that we have human rights commissions so that there is a place of redress for those who feel they've been unfairly discriminated against.

00:00:57.540 So you would think that respect and fair treatment for everybody went both ways, but maybe it doesn't.

00:01:03.940 Canada's liberal government has a desperate attempt to distract Canadians from their disastrous ministry of setting up funds

00:01:12.580 to encourage Canadians to snitch on their neighbors.

00:01:16.960 David, I know you have some thoughts on this. Welcome to the program.

00:01:21.740 It's great to see you, Nigel.

00:01:24.380 It's good to have you here.

00:01:27.620 David, a year before the election, they've just put up $273 million as a fund for people who complain about their neighbors

00:01:40.740 if they think they're haters.

00:01:42.260 I didn't think that there were that many haters left in Canada.

00:01:45.580 There may have been once, but we seem to be a pretty fair-minded group of people these days.

00:01:51.480 Are there cross-burnings in Winnipeg?

00:01:54.600 You know, not that I'm aware of.

00:01:56.300 I do know that there are hate-filled acts going on in this country,

00:02:00.900 but I dare to say not in the same way that this government wants to portray and announce the issues of hate across this country.

00:02:09.740 So it's a very dark day for our country, quite frankly, as they set up what I believe is a mechanism, a tool, even a weapon,

00:02:20.180 to basically hold up a particular narrative of hate, I would say, really through kind of a Marxist lens,

00:02:28.240 where it's about identity politics.

00:02:31.100 It's about identifying groups that are part of your constituency and mobilizing them

00:02:37.700 so that they can actually fine, penalize, and put in jail those that disagree with them.

00:02:46.160 Now, okay, can you give me some examples of the kind of people who are actually receiving this money

00:02:53.560 and what they do with it?

00:02:54.760 Well, I think you have to look at the whole spectrum here,

00:02:59.320 but you basically have a variety of groups that they are generously funding by the taxpayer

00:03:06.100 to basically create a coalition combined with other acts such as the so-called Online Harms Act, Bill C-6-3.

00:03:14.580 These are all very powerful ways to basically assault not only the rule of law, but freedom of speech.

00:03:22.100 And they're funding it through a number of groups, one of which is, of course, the Anti-Race Foundation,

00:03:32.000 the Race Relations Foundation of Canada.

00:03:33.980 They're bringing that together with two other interesting bodies,

00:03:39.140 and that would be police forces, particularly the RCMP, as well as Stats Canada,

00:03:45.280 as they, of course, redefine what hate means in this country

00:03:48.900 to ones where people feel victimized or somehow feel offended.

00:03:55.160 So I think these are huge red flags.

00:03:57.900 As this story unfolds, this is a dark day for this country

00:04:01.880 as we look at how this government is funding and facilitating, in my humble opinion,

00:04:08.400 a policy initiative that's really about upholding their narrative

00:04:11.980 and systematically narrowing down the sense of freedom of speech

00:04:18.580 and, of course, changing the rule and application of law.

00:04:24.720 So who are the people, like, can you name the kinds of people

00:04:30.200 who are actually running afoul of this new legislation

00:04:34.960 and the grants that support these little self-appointed militia groups?

00:04:40.400 I guess militia is not a particularly good word,

00:04:43.020 but, you know, little groups.

00:04:44.460 We can find the haters for you.

00:04:46.440 Just give us the money.

00:04:47.840 And they put in their application to Heritage Canada,

00:04:51.000 and they get $150,000 or more and start producing reports.

00:04:57.240 So who are they reporting on?

00:04:58.660 I don't know that there are that many Aryan nations,

00:05:02.380 compounds left to go report on.

00:05:05.060 Well, it's a very good question, Nigel.

00:05:07.760 I think what you have is kind of the usual suspects

00:05:11.880 in the sense that you have a coalition of groups

00:05:14.780 that do uphold the narrative that our country, Canada,

00:05:19.120 is a hopefully systematically racist nation,

00:05:22.120 that we need to identify people on their tribe

00:05:25.900 based on their skin colour or their sexual orientation.

00:05:31.580 And what is interesting is that they seem to be going about this in phases.

00:05:35.780 So they're identifying a variety of partners that,

00:05:39.840 or sorry, pardon me,

00:05:41.020 they're identifying a variety of parties

00:05:44.260 that offend their sensibilities around key narratives.

00:05:48.600 So, for example, you have the so-called residential school denialists.

00:05:54.440 You have parties that dare to disagree

00:05:58.300 that somehow residential schools were not simply akin to Nazi death camps

00:06:05.380 and there were a myriad of mass graves.

00:06:08.480 And as we know, there has not been evidence to suggest

00:06:11.160 that there are mass graves.

00:06:14.240 And so I think you have something more profound going on as well.

00:06:18.020 You have an effort really to take on anyone

00:06:21.960 that would question this so-called diversity, equity, and inclusion narrative.

00:06:27.840 And that, as you know, is very much based on a Marxist cultural ideology

00:06:34.220 where there's an endless drumbeat of oppressor versus the oppressed.

00:06:40.740 And in this case, anyone who would dare question that narrative then

00:06:44.820 is going to be positioned to be able to be sought after, complained about

00:06:50.700 through a very interesting process.

00:06:53.240 It's probably, my sense is that they're not going to be going after people

00:06:56.580 through the regular court system,

00:06:58.040 but rather through human rights tribunals.

00:07:02.460 And, of course, we know that the application of the law then

00:07:05.620 is not the same as our larger court system.

00:07:09.900 So it's really been, it's a kind of a typical playbook

00:07:14.340 that we see through human history of totalitarian regimes

00:07:18.060 demonizing their ideological opponents, separating them out,

00:07:23.300 and then eventually persecuting them in the form of legal action

00:07:27.280 or public humiliation, and basically weaponizing the law

00:07:33.420 against your ideological opponent.

00:07:36.080 Yeah, but David, what you're describing is the kind of thing

00:07:38.680 that happened in the French Revolution, or in the Russian Revolution,

00:07:42.980 or in Nazi Germany.

00:07:44.440 Surely you're not proposing that the government of Canada

00:07:48.840 is using the same kind of techniques

00:07:53.100 as these very admittedly authoritarian and cruel regimes.

00:07:59.760 Well, quite frankly, I am.

00:08:02.480 I believe that from a policy historical point of view,

00:08:05.620 it's the same playbook to basically demonize and villainize a party.

00:08:11.500 So when they talk about an anti-hate initiative,

00:08:15.220 the irony is that this is not about anti-hate.

00:08:18.920 It's actually about creating hate and resentment

00:08:22.460 towards those who are true seekers,

00:08:25.620 who one of the incredible strengths of our country

00:08:28.600 and our Anglo-Saxon tradition is one of true seeking.

00:08:33.920 Now, we're not the only parties in the world

00:08:36.640 that have that tradition, but we're one of the few.

00:08:39.340 And this ability to find truth is an extraordinary strength.

00:08:44.120 And in order to do that, we need freedom of speech.

00:08:46.500 We need to be able to have vigorous discussions and debates

00:08:49.780 about what really is the evidence regarding an issue.

00:08:53.320 But in that spirit, though,

00:08:55.200 these people are totally foreign to that assumption.

00:08:59.980 And I think if they were not,

00:09:03.080 they would actually be emphasizing in this recent announcement

00:09:06.660 a so-called anti-hate initiative great care and attention

00:09:10.880 to the importance of facts and evidence and rule of law

00:09:14.480 and healthy discussion.

00:09:15.980 They seek to undermine healthy discussion

00:09:18.440 that has allowed us to be a successful free and democratic society.

00:09:22.820 Now, we talk about hate.

00:09:27.600 And we have, I think most people, when they hear the word hate,

00:09:31.440 have a certain image in mind.

00:09:33.400 I mean, I've referred to Aryan nations, cross-burnings,

00:09:36.900 and things like that.

00:09:38.960 I actually went on to the website of one of these organizations

00:09:42.620 that's received more than $600,000 in federal funding

00:09:47.200 to report on hate in their community.

00:09:50.580 And I found that one of the things they were concerned about

00:09:53.900 was the recent American film Am I a Racist

00:09:57.640 had been playing in theaters near them.

00:10:00.760 They thought that was hateful.

00:10:02.600 They also drew to attention that there was a nice young couple

00:10:06.120 who were concerned about educational policy,

00:10:09.980 and especially as regards to what was taught in the classroom

00:10:13.940 about trans ideology to quite young children.

00:10:17.900 And they were running for school board

00:10:19.220 in order to have their say on that in an appropriate forum.

00:10:24.160 And they were labeled as haters.

00:10:26.180 So, on the other hand, I have seen nothing about the hate

00:10:31.420 of, for example, a Jewish community in Toronto

00:10:35.840 being swarmed by a hostile pro-Gaza, anti-Israel crowd.

00:10:42.180 So, how do the, you know, where is the hate

00:10:46.900 and what is the distinction when it comes to funding these groups?

00:10:54.100 Does anybody care about what obviously is truly hateful?

00:11:00.460 You know, that's the irony, Nigel,

00:11:02.560 is what you see is an effort to define hate on their terms

00:11:07.440 that clearly supports their narrative.

00:11:10.200 So, if you see acts of anti-Semitism,

00:11:14.860 most likely they will turn a blind eye to that

00:11:17.700 because it does not fit within their narrative,

00:11:20.620 their political coalition, if you will.

00:11:23.020 So, what you have is the irony

00:11:24.760 that you have time and time again

00:11:26.640 all kinds of examples of hate.

00:11:30.860 Let's take, for instance, as well, Nigel,

00:11:32.940 the burning of some 100 Christian churches

00:11:36.220 right across this country.

00:11:37.460 And in almost all cases,

00:11:39.540 we still do not have a sense of

00:11:41.820 how the perpetrators are being prosecuted or investigated.

00:11:47.760 You have a kind of a double standard

00:11:50.400 of the application of the law.

00:11:53.320 And so, this is, again,

00:11:55.700 begs worrisome questions

00:11:57.280 about how this type of initiative

00:12:00.340 will actually be used to just simply go after

00:12:03.380 parties that do fit their narrative

00:12:07.420 based on reality or not.

00:12:10.500 But it's a way to weaponize

00:12:12.720 the rule of law against their political opponents.

00:12:15.520 So, on one hand, this is driven by ideology,

00:12:18.300 I would argue,

00:12:19.260 but it's also driven by cynical application

00:12:21.900 of identity politics.

00:12:23.200 Has any government of Canada

00:12:25.840 ever actively gone after

00:12:29.400 a section of its own population

00:12:32.060 in order to divert attention

00:12:34.700 from other things that they may be doing

00:12:37.300 that wouldn't be so popular?

00:12:39.680 You know, I can think of many examples,

00:12:42.620 as you full well know, Nigel,

00:12:44.480 where governments have sought to change the channel

00:12:47.400 to kind of draw attention

00:12:50.260 to something that is not working.

00:12:52.600 But not in this regard.

00:12:54.600 I think this is a very concerning

00:12:56.340 development in our society.

00:12:59.080 Canadians are drawn together in unity

00:13:01.660 based on the principle

00:13:02.800 that we are citizens of this great country,

00:13:05.380 not because of the color of our skin

00:13:07.580 or our sexual orientation,

00:13:10.500 but because of our shared commitment

00:13:13.020 to principles that allow

00:13:15.280 for the rights and freedoms of individuals

00:13:17.640 and our constitutional tradition.

00:13:21.440 And so this is a great deviation from that.

00:13:24.160 I mean, this is a very disturbing,

00:13:27.060 dark day for our country

00:13:28.300 when we make announcements

00:13:30.040 and fund hundreds of millions of dollars

00:13:33.040 towards this entirely alien tradition

00:13:36.260 of the rule of law and freedom of speech.

00:13:38.980 I don't want to belabor the point

00:13:40.740 because I think you've made it

00:13:42.520 very well several times already,

00:13:44.520 but we really are looking at something new,

00:13:48.380 that this is not the Liberal Party

00:13:51.580 that we used to know.

00:13:54.880 I mean, many of us had our differences

00:13:58.600 with the Liberal Party

00:13:59.920 as it operated under Paul Martin

00:14:03.140 and Jean Chrétien

00:14:03.940 and back to Pierre Trudeau.

00:14:06.360 But this kind of assault on free speech

00:14:10.540 that you are describing

00:14:13.220 in which the government funds

00:14:15.300 are actually given to people

00:14:17.900 to be snitches,

00:14:21.100 to actually go out

00:14:22.440 and to find what they think is hateful

00:14:26.780 and, of course,

00:14:27.940 to then discover that what they think is hateful

00:14:30.620 is to most people

00:14:32.280 probably a reasonable discussion

00:14:35.140 on a point of principle

00:14:36.280 and not actually hate at all

00:14:38.580 in the conventional system.

00:14:39.940 And yet, when you do confront,

00:14:42.900 when you do find real hate going on

00:14:45.700 and we're using the example

00:14:47.820 of the invasion of Jewish neighborhoods

00:14:51.460 in Toronto by hostile crowds,

00:14:54.360 good Lord, I mean,

00:14:55.200 if that was a group of skinheads

00:14:58.000 invading the same neighborhoods,

00:15:01.280 there probably would be instant action.

00:15:03.160 But because it's a pro-Gaza crowd,

00:15:06.060 not much happens.

00:15:07.140 I don't think anything happens.

00:15:09.400 So, as I said,

00:15:11.720 I'm belaboring the point

00:15:12.840 because I think there really is

00:15:14.340 something new and different

00:15:16.880 that has come up

00:15:18.300 in the nine years

00:15:20.080 of the tenure

00:15:22.560 by this government.

00:15:25.140 Do you think I'm putting it too strongly?

00:15:27.880 No, not at all.

00:15:28.820 In fact, I would say

00:15:30.100 it has a significant history

00:15:33.700 going back

00:15:34.440 and certainly the world of academe,

00:15:36.700 of so-called grievance studies

00:15:38.180 that all see the world

00:15:41.100 through this world of oppressor

00:15:43.060 versus the oppressed.

00:15:45.120 And now, finally,

00:15:45.900 this is coming

00:15:46.600 into public force

00:15:49.000 and visibility now.

00:15:50.660 And that's something new now.

00:15:52.740 I would frankly never believe

00:15:54.460 we would see the day, Nigel,

00:15:57.020 as someone who's observed this

00:15:59.000 and studied this for decades, really,

00:16:01.340 that we would see a day

00:16:02.900 where grievance studies like this

00:16:04.580 would somehow have

00:16:05.560 any credible following

00:16:06.880 as a public policy maker.

00:16:09.600 This is something new

00:16:10.880 and this is very disturbing.

00:16:13.120 But it is not new

00:16:14.460 in the context

00:16:15.340 of totalitarian regimes

00:16:16.660 in history,

00:16:17.500 whether it's Maoist China,

00:16:19.340 whether it's the Soviet Union.

00:16:22.180 These are very important lessons

00:16:23.940 to pay attention to.

00:16:25.240 And again,

00:16:25.840 it's the same type

00:16:27.020 of methodology

00:16:28.580 where there's a demonization

00:16:30.500 of different parties

00:16:32.600 who dare to disagree

00:16:33.720 with the narrative

00:16:35.060 that different persons

00:16:36.460 in power wish to uphold

00:16:37.720 and manipulate.

00:16:38.820 And then it's the separation

00:16:40.040 and ultimately the persecution

00:16:41.600 in its different forms.

00:16:44.240 Do they believe

00:16:45.840 their own rhetoric

00:16:46.880 or is this

00:16:48.580 an entirely cynical

00:16:50.020 use of the force

00:16:52.640 of government

00:16:53.220 in order to establish

00:16:54.840 the narrative

00:16:56.120 of a ruling party

00:16:57.520 in a hope

00:16:58.560 of just continuing

00:16:59.860 and extending its rule?

00:17:01.820 Do they really

00:17:02.520 actually believe this?

00:17:04.480 You know,

00:17:05.480 it's a brilliant question, Nigel.

00:17:06.960 I think we all wonder

00:17:07.980 this regularly,

00:17:09.220 but I think it's both.

00:17:10.600 I think you have

00:17:11.480 parties who really

00:17:13.320 do believe

00:17:14.060 that Canada

00:17:15.740 is irredeemably racist

00:17:17.720 systematically

00:17:18.680 and that it is

00:17:20.380 a country filled

00:17:21.940 with, quote,

00:17:22.780 white supremacists

00:17:23.880 and all the rest,

00:17:26.200 which, of course,

00:17:27.120 we all know it isn't.

00:17:28.140 Canada is filled

00:17:28.820 with people

00:17:29.340 who are unified

00:17:30.640 and proud of their history.

00:17:32.060 They don't believe

00:17:32.840 it's perfect,

00:17:33.620 but they do know

00:17:34.820 that racism

00:17:35.740 has no place

00:17:36.660 in our country.

00:17:37.920 But what we see

00:17:39.080 also is the application

00:17:40.500 of cynical power politics.

00:17:42.220 And I think that

00:17:44.080 this is a situation

00:17:45.600 where you have

00:17:46.400 announcements being made

00:17:48.020 that appears to be

00:17:49.440 credible public policy

00:17:50.660 when, in fact,

00:17:51.540 I would argue

00:17:52.280 that it isn't.

00:17:53.220 It's self-serving

00:17:54.340 and it's been

00:17:55.620 serving towards

00:17:57.200 a particular set

00:17:58.180 of special interests

00:17:59.180 who want to do

00:18:01.320 the proxy

00:18:02.500 or the bidding

00:18:03.680 as third parties

00:18:04.580 on behalf

00:18:05.260 of the government

00:18:06.340 who wishes to promote

00:18:07.360 this type of narrative.

00:18:08.640 Why?

00:18:09.400 I think all

00:18:10.220 in terms of a run-up

00:18:11.400 to an election

00:18:12.380 where a lot

00:18:13.720 of the policies

00:18:14.360 that they pursued,

00:18:15.360 and I think you've alluded

00:18:16.140 to this, Nigel,

00:18:17.220 are not sadly working.

00:18:19.260 I mean,

00:18:19.500 they are destroying

00:18:21.900 Canadian standard of living.

00:18:23.600 Our affordability

00:18:24.400 is worsening.

00:18:26.300 There's a sense

00:18:27.340 that our country

00:18:28.200 is indeed broken.

00:18:29.740 And why is that?

00:18:30.760 Because we pursued

00:18:31.640 policies that many,

00:18:33.760 including ourselves

00:18:34.840 at Frontier,

00:18:35.700 have cautioned

00:18:37.260 many, many times

00:18:37.980 have never worked.

00:18:38.900 So I think

00:18:40.180 this is the time

00:18:41.200 where they want

00:18:41.700 to change the channel

00:18:42.700 but do in a way

00:18:44.500 that reinvigorates

00:18:45.720 their activist base

00:18:46.920 and creates

00:18:48.440 a renewed network

00:18:49.480 to go after

00:18:50.820 their political opponents.

00:18:53.300 I mean,

00:18:54.460 here at the

00:18:54.820 Western Standard,

00:18:55.600 we have actually

00:18:56.460 been talking about

00:18:57.480 this for a couple

00:18:58.620 of years,

00:18:59.340 but how is the rest

00:19:01.340 of the media

00:19:02.080 handling this story

00:19:03.440 to your observation?

00:19:05.420 Well,

00:19:05.940 I think

00:19:06.260 generally poorly.

00:19:07.520 I think

00:19:07.800 this is the

00:19:08.740 other story

00:19:09.620 is that,

00:19:10.180 I mean,

00:19:10.360 it's a bit like

00:19:10.960 the analogy

00:19:11.440 of going into a room

00:19:12.380 and seeing a large elephant

00:19:13.500 and only seeing

00:19:14.740 one part of it

00:19:15.540 like its tail.

00:19:16.620 You have to look

00:19:17.740 at the larger picture here.

00:19:19.120 So it's not just

00:19:19.800 this initiative,

00:19:20.660 the so-called

00:19:21.200 anti-racist initiative,

00:19:23.580 but it's also

00:19:24.780 combined with

00:19:25.580 Bill C-6-3,

00:19:26.820 the so-called

00:19:27.320 online harms

00:19:28.140 bill,

00:19:29.260 which will create

00:19:30.140 enormous power

00:19:31.260 to edit

00:19:31.960 and block,

00:19:33.200 again,

00:19:33.680 any narrative

00:19:34.280 that they disagree with.

00:19:35.780 But thirdly,

00:19:36.580 it's in line

00:19:37.220 with the initiative

00:19:37.980 of funding

00:19:38.880 the legacy media.

00:19:40.620 We have some

00:19:41.280 2,000 outlets

00:19:42.360 in this country

00:19:43.220 that are given

00:19:44.440 an extraordinary

00:19:45.620 set of funds.

00:19:46.640 You have many outlets

00:19:47.660 like the Winnipeg Free Press

00:19:49.720 where approximately

00:19:51.620 half their budget

00:19:52.640 is received

00:19:53.160 from the government.

00:19:54.560 And they all have

00:19:55.340 to basically

00:19:56.500 climb on board

00:19:57.620 with the government's

00:19:59.280 narrative of diversity,

00:20:00.840 equity,

00:20:01.120 inclusion.

00:20:01.820 And those are

00:20:02.200 the fancy words

00:20:03.100 that basically describe

00:20:04.840 they're going to

00:20:05.920 report on things

00:20:07.080 the way we see it

00:20:08.300 as a government.

00:20:09.020 So they've lost

00:20:09.740 their independence.

00:20:11.180 And again,

00:20:11.740 this is part of

00:20:12.400 the lesson of history.

00:20:13.340 We need good

00:20:14.820 independent media

00:20:16.120 like the Western Standard

00:20:18.060 and a number of others

00:20:19.340 to call out this,

00:20:20.500 to try to pursue

00:20:22.860 the truth,

00:20:23.560 all for a free

00:20:24.600 and democratic society.

00:20:25.860 I want to repeat

00:20:27.040 your words back to you

00:20:28.340 because I think

00:20:29.080 the casual listener

00:20:30.700 may wonder

00:20:31.780 whether he just

00:20:32.520 heard what he thought

00:20:33.360 he heard.

00:20:34.260 You said a moment

00:20:35.260 ago that a Winnipeg

00:20:38.280 newspaper,

00:20:38.680 I think you cited

00:20:40.200 the Tribune,

00:20:42.320 had...

00:20:42.620 Actually,

00:20:42.840 the Free Press.

00:20:43.620 Ironically,

00:20:44.180 the Free Press.

00:20:45.120 Right.

00:20:45.560 The Winnipeg Free Press.

00:20:47.300 What was the percentage

00:20:48.720 of their budget

00:20:51.180 that was met

00:20:52.380 by government funds?

00:20:54.420 My understanding

00:20:55.780 is it's almost 50%.

00:20:57.460 50% of their bills

00:20:59.720 are paid by

00:21:00.340 the federal government,

00:21:01.220 not 50% of payroll,

00:21:02.760 50% of their bills?

00:21:06.000 Yeah.

00:21:06.680 So what happens

00:21:07.380 is you don't have

00:21:08.520 a Free Press.

00:21:09.720 You have essentially,

00:21:11.760 and I apply this

00:21:12.760 across all the media,

00:21:14.560 the 2,000 outlets

00:21:15.920 that received this funding,

00:21:18.100 it is akin to

00:21:19.420 a Pravda,

00:21:20.620 the Soviet mouthpiece

00:21:22.660 that constantly came out

00:21:24.040 every day,

00:21:25.100 carrying the message

00:21:26.080 of the government.

00:21:27.700 So when we see efforts

00:21:29.300 to...

00:21:31.000 I mean,

00:21:31.420 we've always had

00:21:32.520 the inclination

00:21:33.680 of journalistic schools

00:21:35.780 to be very much

00:21:36.760 tilted towards

00:21:37.860 a leftist perspective,

00:21:39.160 the idea that socialism

00:21:40.140 is the answer

00:21:40.940 to all that ills us.

00:21:43.280 But now we're seeing

00:21:44.680 something different.

00:21:45.700 We're seeing the introduction

00:21:46.840 again of a kind

00:21:48.220 of a cultural Marxist narrative

00:21:49.700 that is really

00:21:51.300 being spelled out here

00:21:53.580 and put into operation.

00:21:55.240 That's what they're doing.

00:21:56.720 Is there an explicit

00:21:57.520 understanding

00:21:58.440 between the federal government

00:22:00.660 that issues these funds

00:22:02.820 and the newspapers

00:22:03.880 that receive them

00:22:04.940 that they'll tread carefully

00:22:07.500 on certain issues?

00:22:09.500 I think it's both

00:22:11.020 explicit and implicit.

00:22:12.580 I think it's implicit

00:22:13.560 in the sense that

00:22:14.400 whoever gives you money,

00:22:15.980 you're going to be

00:22:16.740 very much aware

00:22:18.180 of why they invested

00:22:19.940 that money with you.

00:22:21.600 So you will,

00:22:22.700 quote,

00:22:22.900 self-censor.

00:22:23.700 I mean,

00:22:23.880 I think that's a dangerous

00:22:24.820 part of our society,

00:22:25.960 quite frankly,

00:22:26.520 where you have a lot

00:22:27.320 of efforts

00:22:29.200 and tactics

00:22:30.200 being employed

00:22:31.000 to basically essentially

00:22:32.080 get people

00:22:32.660 to self-censor themselves.

00:22:34.500 And the media,

00:22:35.220 the legacy media,

00:22:36.100 receiving these funds

00:22:36.920 is no different.

00:22:39.280 Explicitly,

00:22:39.880 we know that there

00:22:40.760 is an agreement signed.

00:22:42.340 I have yet to see

00:22:43.740 a full agreement

00:22:44.920 other than

00:22:45.940 a principled statement

00:22:47.120 that somehow

00:22:47.860 the federal government

00:22:48.980 is promoting

00:22:50.340 the media

00:22:51.680 in a way

00:22:52.420 that supports

00:22:53.360 their principles,

00:22:54.520 whether it's to cover,

00:22:56.120 quote,

00:22:56.380 diversity, equity, inclusion,

00:22:58.220 secondly,

00:22:58.960 a climate crisis,

00:23:00.460 and thirdly,

00:23:01.540 the whole issue

00:23:02.240 of their terms

00:23:03.440 of reconciliation

00:23:04.160 when it comes

00:23:04.820 to indigenous policy.

00:23:06.620 So then,

00:23:08.400 David,

00:23:08.760 if the viewer

00:23:09.960 who has just been

00:23:11.620 tuning in now

00:23:13.320 finds it incredible

00:23:15.280 that we're here

00:23:16.700 talking about

00:23:17.500 a federal government

00:23:18.660 program

00:23:19.580 that seeks

00:23:21.480 to make

00:23:22.460 snitches

00:23:24.760 out of citizens

00:23:25.840 to turn in people

00:23:28.400 who are doing

00:23:28.900 perfectly normal things

00:23:30.400 like running

00:23:31.440 for school board

00:23:32.280 who happen to have

00:23:34.580 an anti-trans narrative

00:23:37.520 or some concerns

00:23:38.520 about what is being

00:23:39.360 taught about that

00:23:40.520 in the classroom,

00:23:41.320 or who enjoy

00:23:43.700 a film

00:23:45.060 such as

00:23:46.020 Am I a Racist?

00:23:47.720 or who

00:23:48.740 perhaps

00:23:50.020 even

00:23:51.140 just

00:23:53.540 don't like

00:23:55.500 the way

00:23:55.960 things are done,

00:23:57.440 but these people

00:23:59.060 will be turned in

00:24:00.140 to the government

00:24:01.180 and

00:24:03.220 classified as

00:24:04.660 haters,

00:24:05.220 and it's not

00:24:06.700 a surprise

00:24:07.120 that you haven't

00:24:07.640 read about it

00:24:08.240 in the newspapers

00:24:08.880 because the newspapers,

00:24:11.020 the mainstream media

00:24:12.320 are silent about it

00:24:14.080 and it's only

00:24:15.240 through

00:24:16.100 organizations

00:24:17.240 such as our own

00:24:18.620 and there are

00:24:19.180 a number of other

00:24:19.820 worthy warriors

00:24:21.680 in those calls

00:24:22.500 through how

00:24:23.420 any of this

00:24:24.280 comes out,

00:24:24.940 but anybody

00:24:25.420 who wanted to

00:24:26.080 could go onto

00:24:26.600 the Heritage Canada

00:24:27.460 website

00:24:27.940 and they would

00:24:29.080 find a list

00:24:30.240 of organizations

00:24:31.560 that are very open

00:24:32.380 about it

00:24:32.820 who have received

00:24:33.960 money from the

00:24:34.720 government

00:24:35.060 under this

00:24:36.260 program

00:24:36.780 and the amounts

00:24:38.600 of money

00:24:39.160 that they received

00:24:40.580 and now

00:24:41.640 there is

00:24:42.080 an extra

00:24:42.780 top-up

00:24:43.420 of $273

00:24:45.760 million

00:24:46.220 to generate

00:24:48.580 this

00:24:49.560 enormous

00:24:50.840 impression

00:24:54.180 that

00:24:54.860 Canada

00:24:55.460 is full

00:24:55.940 of hateful

00:24:56.420 people

00:24:56.820 and only

00:24:58.360 the liberal

00:24:58.780 government

00:24:59.260 can save

00:25:00.280 the citizens

00:25:00.960 from the

00:25:02.240 haters.

00:25:03.520 That's

00:25:03.960 kind of

00:25:05.000 where we

00:25:05.360 have reached

00:25:05.860 in this

00:25:06.220 country

00:25:06.540 and this

00:25:06.900 is an

00:25:07.180 entirely

00:25:07.560 new

00:25:07.840 thing.

00:25:09.160 I believe

00:25:09.940 it is

00:25:10.360 and I

00:25:11.320 think we

00:25:11.620 should keep

00:25:12.140 a larger

00:25:13.340 strategic

00:25:13.920 perspective

00:25:14.560 if I may

00:25:15.240 and that

00:25:16.220 is that

00:25:16.740 this type

00:25:17.440 of initiative

00:25:17.960 will do

00:25:18.420 great harm

00:25:19.140 to our

00:25:19.980 society

00:25:20.820 instead of

00:25:22.140 building bridges

00:25:22.800 and it's

00:25:23.200 interesting

00:25:23.540 they're going

00:25:23.940 to be holding

00:25:24.440 a series

00:25:24.900 of national

00:25:26.040 workshops

00:25:26.560 across

00:25:27.000 Canada

00:25:27.520 as a way

00:25:30.740 to train

00:25:31.260 them up

00:25:31.620 on so-called

00:25:32.180 best practices

00:25:33.020 to identify

00:25:33.820 what they

00:25:34.920 believe or

00:25:35.440 hate

00:25:35.700 and then

00:25:36.780 learn how

00:25:37.360 to report

00:25:38.100 them

00:25:38.440 so that

00:25:40.000 they can

00:25:40.380 in turn

00:25:40.800 be prosecuted

00:25:41.720 and I

00:25:43.460 would say

00:25:43.860 it's not

00:25:44.240 about

00:25:44.460 prosecution

00:25:45.160 then

00:25:45.520 it's really

00:25:46.460 going to

00:25:46.840 be about

00:25:47.380 persecution

00:25:48.020 and I

00:25:48.420 hope I'm

00:25:49.140 sincerely

00:25:49.600 wrong on

00:25:50.160 this

00:25:50.340 but I

00:25:50.980 doubt it

00:25:52.560 so in

00:25:53.600 this context

00:25:54.360 this will

00:25:54.900 do enormous

00:25:55.680 damage

00:25:56.340 Nigel

00:25:56.880 to the

00:25:57.560 fabric

00:25:57.940 of our

00:25:58.380 society

00:25:58.880 so instead

00:25:59.460 of building

00:26:01.060 those so-called

00:26:01.760 bridges

00:26:02.220 it will

00:26:03.860 actually rip

00:26:04.640 apart

00:26:05.100 communities

00:26:06.220 as we

00:26:06.820 dare to

00:26:07.400 have

00:26:07.820 honest

00:26:08.780 debate

00:26:09.240 and discussion

00:26:10.040 about very

00:26:10.740 important

00:26:11.180 issues

00:26:11.680 not just

00:26:13.400 about science

00:26:14.280 but about

00:26:15.500 all kinds

00:26:16.120 of issues

00:26:16.660 where there

00:26:17.300 are different

00:26:17.880 perspectives

00:26:18.460 and one

00:26:19.680 of the

00:26:19.920 strengths

00:26:20.220 of our

00:26:20.580 Canadian

00:26:20.880 society

00:26:21.380 has been

00:26:21.680 a tradition

00:26:22.240 where we

00:26:22.760 have a

00:26:23.160 tolerance

00:26:23.580 for each

00:26:24.600 other

00:26:24.880 even though

00:26:25.920 we have

00:26:26.300 different

00:26:26.600 perspectives

00:26:27.160 that we

00:26:27.600 can agree

00:26:29.080 and disagree

00:26:29.940 to build

00:26:30.920 this country

00:26:31.560 and in

00:26:32.680 unity we

00:26:33.280 do that

00:26:33.880 effort

00:26:34.560 we have

00:26:35.500 been able

00:26:35.980 to build

00:26:36.580 an incredibly

00:26:37.220 prosperous

00:26:37.820 and successful

00:26:39.160 nation

00:26:39.660 and all

00:26:40.660 people come

00:26:41.540 from all

00:26:42.060 over the

00:26:42.500 world

00:26:42.820 so that

00:26:43.480 they can

00:26:43.880 take in

00:26:44.580 the so-called

00:26:45.460 Canadian

00:26:45.940 dream

00:26:46.360 so this

00:26:48.140 initiative

00:26:48.600 is very

00:26:49.300 disconcerting

00:26:50.060 and I

00:26:51.000 believe that

00:26:51.740 it is

00:26:52.140 very important

00:26:52.800 that citizens

00:26:53.460 become

00:26:54.020 informed

00:26:54.600 about this

00:26:55.280 initiative

00:26:55.700 and so

00:26:56.620 I congratulate

00:26:57.260 you Nigel

00:26:58.020 and certainly

00:26:58.560 the whole

00:26:58.920 team there

00:26:59.420 at the

00:26:59.640 Western Standard

00:27:00.320 because citizens

00:27:01.920 need to speak

00:27:02.800 up now

00:27:03.540 to their

00:27:04.120 MPs

00:27:04.880 their

00:27:05.520 representatives

00:27:06.080 and say

00:27:06.600 this is not

00:27:07.340 the Canada

00:27:07.940 that we have

00:27:08.540 signed on

00:27:09.200 as citizens

00:27:10.080 our tradition

00:27:11.220 is one

00:27:11.940 of tolerance

00:27:12.660 and working

00:27:13.140 together

00:27:13.580 this will

00:27:14.780 very much

00:27:15.760 radically

00:27:16.340 undermine

00:27:16.980 that

00:27:17.300 all in

00:27:18.260 the name

00:27:18.780 of diversity

00:27:20.500 equity

00:27:20.860 inclusion

00:27:21.380 and their

00:27:22.060 perspective

00:27:23.040 this is not

00:27:23.760 about inclusion

00:27:24.620 this is about

00:27:25.460 excluding

00:27:26.120 ironically

00:27:27.320 our tradition

00:27:28.080 of a free

00:27:28.700 and democratic

00:27:29.300 society

00:27:29.980 you know

00:27:30.900 unfortunately

00:27:31.480 our experience

00:27:33.620 during the

00:27:34.540 COVID-19

00:27:35.380 crisis

00:27:36.080 suggests that

00:27:37.220 there are

00:27:37.900 all too

00:27:38.420 many people

00:27:39.200 who are quite

00:27:39.800 prepared to

00:27:40.440 rat out

00:27:40.980 their neighbours

00:27:41.720 without

00:27:43.320 being paid

00:27:44.500 add

00:27:45.240 the

00:27:45.840 accelerant

00:27:47.500 of

00:27:47.880 government

00:27:48.420 funding

00:27:49.000 and this

00:27:49.700 could be

00:27:50.060 extremely

00:27:50.560 serious

00:27:51.380 talk to

00:27:52.340 us

00:27:52.620 about

00:27:53.260 Bill

00:27:53.740 C-63

00:27:54.680 the

00:27:55.040 Online

00:27:55.600 Harms

00:27:56.080 Act

00:27:56.360 and how

00:27:57.040 that

00:27:57.280 dovetails

00:27:57.960 with what

00:27:58.400 we've been

00:27:58.720 talking about

00:27:59.360 so far

00:27:59.940 well

00:28:00.980 Bill

00:28:01.360 C-63

00:28:02.880 perfectly

00:28:04.660 is

00:28:05.460 a

00:28:06.500 compliment

00:28:06.960 is

00:28:07.780 pardon me

00:28:08.300 is complimentary

00:28:08.900 to this

00:28:09.820 initiative

00:28:10.300 why

00:28:11.360 because

00:28:11.920 Bill

00:28:12.680 C-63

00:28:13.360 provides

00:28:14.180 yet again

00:28:14.960 the

00:28:15.800 larger

00:28:16.440 legal

00:28:16.860 basis

00:28:17.280 to

00:28:18.000 pursue

00:28:18.700 the

00:28:20.040 silencing

00:28:20.640 and the

00:28:21.800 blocking

00:28:22.300 of

00:28:22.960 any

00:28:23.420 narrative

00:28:23.840 that

00:28:24.180 the

00:28:24.360 government

00:28:24.620 disagrees

00:28:25.240 with

00:28:25.560 so

00:28:26.420 Bill

00:28:26.720 C-63

00:28:27.360 is

00:28:27.740 very much

00:28:28.480 tied

00:28:28.820 into

00:28:29.120 this

00:28:29.360 they

00:28:29.560 want

00:28:29.880 to

00:28:30.280 limit

00:28:31.720 the

00:28:32.340 discussion

00:28:33.420 within

00:28:33.800 the

00:28:34.060 public

00:28:34.360 square

00:28:34.740 so

00:28:35.000 Bill

00:28:35.280 C-63

00:28:36.120 is

00:28:37.100 obviously

00:28:37.760 very much

00:28:38.380 connected

00:28:38.860 to this

00:28:39.320 initiative

00:28:39.740 and

00:28:40.680 will

00:28:41.140 be

00:28:41.560 again

00:28:43.400 it

00:28:43.640 needs

00:28:44.000 to

00:28:44.180 be

00:28:44.380 seen

00:28:44.760 as

00:28:44.920 part

00:28:45.200 of

00:28:45.300 this

00:28:45.500 initiative

00:28:45.900 I

00:28:46.140 believe

00:28:46.460 I

00:28:47.180 see

00:28:47.540 these

00:28:49.040 I

00:28:49.620 think

00:28:49.840 you

00:28:50.020 used

00:28:50.400 the

00:28:50.580 phrase

00:28:50.940 dark

00:28:51.400 times

00:28:51.920 a couple

00:28:52.480 of

00:28:52.680 times

00:28:53.060 earlier

00:28:53.580 my

00:28:54.320 understanding

00:28:54.980 of

00:28:55.240 Bill

00:28:55.440 C-63

00:28:56.200 is

00:28:57.180 that

00:28:57.760 the

00:28:58.840 government

00:28:59.120 will

00:28:59.440 provide

00:28:59.940 funds

00:29:00.640 for

00:29:01.840 professional

00:29:02.700 snitches

00:29:03.480 and

00:29:03.720 that

00:29:03.960 those

00:29:05.080 people

00:29:05.580 who

00:29:05.940 have

00:29:06.580 put

00:29:07.680 things

00:29:08.120 on

00:29:08.400 Facebook

00:29:08.820 or

00:29:09.160 on

00:29:09.380 Twitter

00:29:09.800 and

00:29:10.880 are

00:29:11.200 years

00:29:12.380 ago

00:29:12.840 can

00:29:13.640 be

00:29:13.900 prosecuted

00:29:14.740 for

00:29:15.060 that

00:29:15.440 in

00:29:15.840 the

00:29:16.000 future

00:29:16.340 if

00:29:17.400 they

00:29:17.520 don't

00:29:18.120 remove

00:29:18.620 them

00:29:18.940 if

00:29:20.340 they

00:29:20.460 have

00:29:20.640 the

00:29:20.780 power

00:29:20.980 to

00:29:21.160 do

00:29:21.320 that

00:29:21.640 and

00:29:22.700 that

00:29:22.900 it

00:29:23.080 requires

00:29:23.740 only

00:29:25.020 an

00:29:25.320 allegation

00:29:25.980 from

00:29:26.440 an

00:29:26.700 anonymous

00:29:27.080 source

00:29:27.700 and

00:29:28.460 these

00:29:28.700 anonymous

00:29:29.120 sources

00:29:29.620 will

00:29:29.960 be

00:29:30.160 paid

00:29:30.600 to

00:29:31.980 actually

00:29:32.480 go to

00:29:32.960 war

00:29:33.200 with

00:29:33.440 people

00:29:34.280 with

00:29:34.920 whose

00:29:35.220 opinions

00:29:35.700 you

00:29:35.960 don't

00:29:36.200 agree

00:29:36.460 that's

00:29:37.260 my

00:29:37.460 understanding

00:29:38.060 that's

00:29:38.720 not the

00:29:39.020 whole

00:29:39.260 of

00:29:39.460 Bill

00:29:39.620 C-63

00:29:40.260 but I

00:29:40.800 believe

00:29:41.160 that

00:29:41.360 that's

00:29:42.040 within

00:29:42.500 the

00:29:42.920 legislation

00:29:44.760 is that

00:29:45.420 your

00:29:45.600 understanding

00:29:46.120 David

00:29:46.440 yes

00:29:47.440 so

00:29:47.920 essentially

00:29:48.760 you can

00:29:49.760 you can

00:29:50.160 connect

00:29:50.580 the dots

00:29:51.120 here

00:29:51.400 this

00:29:52.400 initiative

00:29:52.840 should

00:29:53.160 not be

00:29:53.620 seen

00:29:54.000 unto

00:29:54.380 itself

00:29:54.960 but

00:29:55.700 rather

00:29:56.000 connected

00:29:56.540 to

00:29:56.820 Bill

00:29:57.020 C-63

00:29:57.700 where

00:29:58.620 parties

00:29:59.300 can

00:29:59.600 anonymously

00:30:00.300 complain

00:30:00.980 be able

00:30:02.100 to

00:30:02.580 initiate

00:30:03.860 all kinds

00:30:04.600 of legal

00:30:05.000 actions

00:30:05.440 against

00:30:05.800 parties

00:30:06.200 that

00:30:06.420 they

00:30:06.620 may

00:30:06.800 not

00:30:06.960 even

00:30:07.160 know

00:30:07.520 but

00:30:07.940 are

00:30:08.100 offended

00:30:08.480 by

00:30:08.860 because

00:30:10.280 their

00:30:10.880 opinions

00:30:11.960 that are

00:30:12.300 being

00:30:12.520 pursued

00:30:12.980 do not

00:30:13.560 fit

00:30:13.860 their

00:30:14.080 own

00:30:14.380 narrative

00:30:14.840 and

00:30:15.580 so

00:30:15.760 that

00:30:15.960 is

00:30:16.120 redefined

00:30:16.760 as

00:30:16.980 hate

00:30:17.260 speech

00:30:17.640 this

00:30:18.880 is

00:30:19.060 entirely

00:30:19.620 foreign

00:30:20.300 to

00:30:21.220 our

00:30:21.720 rule

00:30:22.200 of law

00:30:22.700 and

00:30:22.920 precedence

00:30:23.420 that already

00:30:23.920 exists

00:30:24.340 in this

00:30:24.700 country

00:30:25.020 about

00:30:25.300 how

00:30:25.520 we

00:30:25.740 see

00:30:26.020 hate

00:30:26.380 speech

00:30:26.780 so

00:30:27.900 this

00:30:28.240 is

00:30:28.440 a

00:30:28.640 radical

00:30:29.320 departure

00:30:29.900 from

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Western Standard - October 01, 2024

Trudeau Liberals are actively subverting free speech rights.

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