Western Standard - Trudeau’s War on the Constitution

00:00:00.000 Good day, I'm Derek Fildebrandt, publisher of the Western Standard, and you're watching

00:00:27.360 the pipeline. Today is April 24th, and we've got a great show coming up for you. I'm joined

00:00:32.920 as always by Western Standard opinion editor, Nigel Hannaford. Good to be here. And Western

00:00:39.180 Standard senior Alberta columnist, Corey Morgan. Always thrilled to be here. Yeah, we actually

00:00:44.400 screwed up getting the show earlier. We had a great little tent of tent going, but when

00:00:49.120 you're just starting over again, you just kind of, you lose the flow. Just can't recreate

00:00:53.200 it. It would just lack the magic. Okay, well, we've got a great show. We're going to be

00:00:59.500 talking about Trudeau's war on the Constitution. More recently and specifically, his comments

00:01:05.700 that if the provinces don't do what he wants them to do, he's just going to go around them

00:01:10.420 into their areas of jurisdiction. We're going to be talking about those comments specifically,

00:01:14.760 but also putting it in the broader context of his regular attacks on the Constitutional

00:01:20.100 Order of Canada, constantly hammering into areas of provincial jurisdiction, areas that have gotten

00:01:25.940 him in trouble at the Supreme Court, basic constitutional violations like, I don't know,

00:01:31.640 seizing bank accounts without just cause, things like that. We'll also be talking about his

00:01:37.200 dangerously weak response to something within his jurisdiction, which is condemning terrorism.

00:01:43.020 marches over the last week, right past Parliament Hill, with thousands of people carrying a Hamas

00:01:50.740 terrorist insignia, chanting Hamas terrorist slogans, calling for the removal of Jews from Israel,

00:02:02.360 brazenly and very clearly praising the rape and murder of Israeli civilians on the October 7th attacks,

00:02:10.480 and just the very weak-need response to it, and the even somehow weaker response of Chrystia Freeland.

00:02:19.860 We're going to talk about the Global Mail dug something up very interesting, although their response

00:02:24.500 to it was a bit odd. Alberta's new review of the province's COVID response. You'll recall the Jason

00:02:32.260 Kenney government had a review conducted by doctors that agreed with the Kenney government,

00:02:38.120 and no surprise, they agreed with the Kenney government. Well, Smith has appointed

00:02:42.420 some doctors who did not agree with the Kenney government, and the media are shocked that these

00:02:48.760 people might not agree with what the Kenney government did. And we're going to do an update

00:02:53.700 on the NDP leadership race. There was a cutoff for the membership sales for those who could vote in the

00:02:58.820 NDP leadership race. It's shaping up much less interesting than I had hoped it was before

00:03:05.720 Nenshi. Before Nenshi's entrance, it looked like it could really be anybody's game, but increasingly

00:03:11.440 it looks like purple is the new orange. So let's get into it from the top. Trudeau is saying pretty

00:03:18.880 clearly if, you know, provinces don't do his bidding, well, he's just going to go around them.

00:03:23.940 I'm just going to try and figure out ways to help Canadians directly as necessary. I'd always

00:03:29.620 rather work with provinces, but if we have to, I will go around them and be there for Canadians,

00:03:35.380 because this economy deserves young Canadians getting the support they need.

00:03:42.240 Nigel, do you think he was just maybe getting a little excited about himself or is this something

00:03:48.600 he means? Oh, he means it. And I think the interesting takeaway from that one, apart from

00:03:53.760 the substance of it, is that it is always in these little unguarded moments when he's away from the

00:04:01.060 teleprompter that he reveals what he really thinks. You know, we've got more than a 10-year supply of

00:04:09.360 this from the time that in 2013 when he was asked on a, like he was nobody at the time, not even the

00:04:18.120 official opposition. That was the NDP. Now he was asked on a women's TV program, what other country

00:04:23.700 than Canada did he admire? And he said, China, but it was their ability to get things done.

00:04:28.020 Everybody kind of, well, that's a funny thing to say, but he meant it. He actually was...

00:04:34.020 And he's not actually wrong. They can actually get things done.

00:04:36.920 Well, yeah. Tremendous human cost, but they can actually get something done.

00:04:40.720 It says Dahmer was a chef too, but...

00:04:42.640 All of these...

00:04:44.420 Jeez, Corey. What's that?

00:04:48.060 It's Corey being Corey.

00:04:49.440 Yeah.

00:04:50.780 All of these ghost apartment blocks, I don't know whether they really, they're so great.

00:04:55.060 But the point is, he thinks they are. And it was an unusual thing to say, and he said it in a

00:04:59.520 casual moment. And then he'll say other things in casual moments. You think, you really think that?

00:05:03.540 Well, here is another where he's away from the teleprompter. So, sir, what are you going

00:05:08.320 to do? I just go around them. Well, you know what? We have a constitution. We have a set

00:05:14.880 of rules. We have custom and procedure. And it is the observation of these things that

00:05:20.120 has actually given Canada incredible stamina as a nation over the years. You know, to find

00:05:28.720 there's only four countries that you can find that have got a really long, enduring history

00:05:33.520 of uninterrupted governmental action. Great Britain, the United States, Iceland, and Canada,

00:05:39.800 going back to 1867. Now, sure, there are older countries, but you know, the French are on 1.00

00:05:45.880 their fifth republic. Germans are on, you're not allowed to call it the fourth right.

00:05:49.360 Second, you know, you've got a second republic.

00:05:50.860 Second, all right, the second republic. You know, all of this in the last, you know, in

00:05:55.740 the time since Canada entered Confederation. So we got something right in 1867, and we've

00:06:01.580 been doing it right. And now Mr. Trudeau thinks that we've been doing it wrong, and he can

00:06:06.200 do better. He has not proved his case, gentlemen.

00:06:10.160 You know, federalism, as we think of it, I think evolved out of the feudal system, because

00:06:17.260 feudalism, in a sense, had a lot of the characteristics of feudalism, of federalism, and you think kind

00:06:26.280 of the structure of the Holy Roman Empire. There was a feudal relationship, but they were

00:06:31.120 still sovereign in their own right, post-Thirty Years' War. But I think Trudeau views federalism

00:06:39.820 in the older feudal sense of owing allegiance to. And it's the senior legion's job, merely

00:06:47.480 to protect the lower one, the lower one's job, to do the bidding of the higher. Or perhaps

00:06:53.300 it's just more that he views the provinces as departments of the federal government that

00:06:58.060 are annoyingly elected on their own. But they're simply just elected departments of a greater

00:07:04.200 whole. And that's very much not the way it works. There is a queen of Alberta,

00:07:09.820 there is a queen of Saskatchewan. It happened to also be the same as the queen of England

00:07:13.740 and the queen of Canada. But there are crowns in the real town.

00:07:16.440 King as we...

00:07:17.160 Oh, sorry.

00:07:18.740 Monarch.

00:07:19.140 Old habits. Old habits die hard.

00:07:22.620 I liked her, too.

00:07:23.340 Yeah. But, Corey, I mean, a father like son here. The father had very, very little respect

00:07:31.820 for the provinces. You know, would criticize Joe Clark as trying to be head waiter to the provinces,

00:07:37.740 which is probably the nicest thing I've ever said about Joe Clark. But

00:07:41.520 I don't know how much he can win here, because he's sparking such backlash. Coming right out of

00:07:48.700 this, the Smith government here in Alberta introduced, I forget what they're calling this

00:07:53.220 bill, but essentially forbidding municipalities in Alberta, which are constitutionally a part

00:07:58.180 of the province, not separate on their own, forbidding them from dealing directly with

00:08:02.220 the federal government, because the federal government for decades has tried to come in

00:08:06.460 to deal with municipalities directly as a way of circumventing provincial jurisdiction. So

00:08:10.100 Trudeau is just creating more and more backlash here, I think making it increasingly difficult

00:08:15.460 for him to impose his will on the provinces.

00:08:17.340 I mean, Trudeau Sr. had no respect for the provinces, but at least he was smart enough to

00:08:20.740 understand what the constitution is.

00:08:22.480 And I mean...

00:08:23.000 Or to change it.

00:08:23.640 Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, Justin Trudeau, I don't think he really understands. We're a

00:08:29.040 federation. We're not a unitary form of government. Like, we are built to have a degree of autonomy

00:08:35.080 in these provinces. I don't think it's... I don't think he really understands it. So this is just to...

00:08:42.400 As far as he's concerned, it's paperwork. It's in the way. And he's got a bit of a... I think he's losing

00:08:49.220 it to a degree. A messiah complex. I know what's best, and darn it, I'm gonna get it done. And these

00:08:54.540 guys are in the way, and I will do, by hook or by crook, what citizens need of me. It's

00:09:00.520 really hitting that point when you... And Nigel said it starts to slip out. We're seeing it slip

00:09:03.920 out more and more. He's been in too long. He's been surrounded, almost cloistered by people

00:09:11.340 who, you know... Yes, people. He's lost grip on what the role really entails, what the country's

00:09:17.140 really built upon. And he doesn't understand what he's doing to this country, because unity

00:09:20.940 is more fractured now than it's ever been. He should have understood, after the Supreme

00:09:24.900 Court rejected his flagship, Bill C-69, the no pipelines rule. Up until then, you could

00:09:30.260 have said, well, he just doesn't get it. He doesn't think about monetary policy. He doesn't

00:09:34.540 read his briefings. Okay, you know. But when the court actually turns around and says, no,

00:09:41.600 what you did there was unconstitutional, and the best that he's got is come back and say,

00:09:45.940 well, you know, we don't care. You know, we think it's constitutional. So he should have

00:09:54.060 understood at that point. Now, I think this is just perverse.

00:09:57.320 It is. And, you know, he's trying a game, almost. I mean, it's political play. When he

00:10:03.240 goes to the municipalities, he's taking the money, and he's trying to play sugar daddy and

00:10:07.800 bringing it back, because that's how he's fighting with the provinces. And then as soon

00:10:10.660 as the province speaks up, because he's bypassing him, he's trying to portray the premiers as

00:10:15.460 being the ogre, say, look, they're preventing me from doing good things. But I think most

00:10:19.540 Canadians, and it's showing in the polls, understand Trudeau's dangling money he took

00:10:23.440 from their wallet in the first place.

00:10:24.840 Well, and it isn't just this most recent case where he openly said, well, the provinces

00:10:30.020 don't do what I want. I'm going to go around them. There's been a lot of major constitutional

00:10:34.440 court defeats for Trudeau. Now, he's had some wins that I think were dubious judicial

00:10:40.520 merit, like on the carbon tax. That's going to get dismantled just to the plain old democratic

00:10:45.740 system, not through constitutional protections. But he lost on the plastic straws ban and bans

00:10:52.080 on water bottle drink box things, if you can recall that. He lost on the Emergencies Act,

00:11:01.640 you know, where it was found pretty clearly to have been done inappropriately, not necessary

00:11:06.940 in a violation of basic constitutional rights. So it's, it's not just against the provinces

00:11:12.120 where he's been found, let's say, having a rather liberal interpretation of the Constitution.

00:11:21.680 But even as it involves going out violating the rights of individual people as well.

00:11:27.000 Well, you'd think someone who is the son of the man who's the primary author of the Charter

00:11:34.780 of Rights and Freedoms would have some conception of its basic parameters and how it would be

00:11:40.280 applied.

00:11:41.920 Well, you would, wouldn't you? But, you know, you just, you just ran through a whole list

00:11:47.960 of things. Well, here's a few more. He does not understand the ethics of what a prime minister

00:11:54.540 can accept as a gift and what he must refuse on principle. It is unusual to have a prime

00:12:01.500 minister reviewed by the ethics commissioner. I think it's five times that the ethics commissioner

00:12:06.540 has come into his area and said, well, actually, sir, you know, you shouldn't, you shouldn't

00:12:11.500 actually do this. You have the whole scandal surrounding SNC level and were very clearly

00:12:17.700 longstanding customs and traditions of how things are done. We're completely overlooked.

00:12:26.020 And the man is, I don't know, I still don't have an opinion as to whether he's foolish or whether

00:12:34.740 he is ignorant or whether he's actually the smartest one of all of us because he's getting

00:12:40.820 what he wants. But certainly there are enough people in the Privy Council office and around him

00:12:46.500 in the prime minister's office to say, this you can do, this you can't, sir. And then he says,

00:12:54.180 well, we're doing it anyway. Now that is the, that is the, the, the fracture in, in this whole thing.

00:13:01.540 He thinks he can do anything if it's in a good cause.

00:13:04.900 Well, to a degree he's right. As I said, maybe it's not so much brilliance, but I see it as more

00:13:08.980 as a spoiled child, but he's realizing too, that I can do this. I'll face sanction two years from

00:13:14.180 now. The Supreme court says, don't do that again. Oh, okay. I mean, there's no consequence.

00:13:18.740 There never has been. And also once things gets, it takes a long time for things to get struck down

00:13:22.900 in court. This morning I, uh, you know, I was, I was getting something at the coffee shop. Uh,

00:13:28.500 I was getting a cold coffee and I just brought a plastic straw from my truck that, you know,

00:13:33.380 like this contraband straw I bought on Amazon. Um, and the coffee shop still has paper straws.

00:13:39.140 Uh, actually the guy who runs it, he's angry about it, but it's just this unconstitutional

00:13:45.780 paper straw law, uh, was imposed on them. And now it's just kind of stuck, even though the laws struck

00:13:51.460 down, they've managed to largely get their way. I think the municipality still bans them under Gondek.

00:13:56.020 We've got layers and layers to go through. Yeah. Well, because the, the, the issue there was that

00:14:00.100 the federal government didn't have the right to do it, but provinces and municipalities,

00:14:02.900 perhaps, um, on a constitutional level. Um, but what it meant is that even though this was

00:14:10.660 unconstitutional, it was in place for long enough that it just largely became the norm

00:14:14.580 among large corporations that are pretty slow to change tack on these things. So he still kind of

00:14:19.540 got his way, even though it was found to be totally unconstitutional. All right.

00:14:24.820 Okay. Break time for commercial.

00:14:32.020 I'm going to try to get better at doing like, not just immediately going in, doing a segmented segmented.

00:14:37.940 All right. Um, we're going to stay on the topic of Trudeau here, uh, but something that is within his

00:14:51.700 area to control legally. And that's just what he says in reaction to events.

00:14:56.820 October 7th is proof that we are almost free. Long live October 7th. Long live the resistance.

00:15:05.860 Long live the indifada. Long live every form of resistance.

00:15:10.900 Openly cheering the rape and murder of women and children from the October 7th attacks,

00:15:16.740 um, hailing Hamas, hailing Hamas's goals, carrying Hamas's symbols. Uh, you know, we can remember

00:15:27.540 when there was one, uh, one person had a national socialist flag on Parliament Hill or near Parliament

00:15:33.060 Hill, uh, during the trucker freedom convoy. Um, and it was found that that person was almost certainly

00:15:40.420 a false flag, almost certainly not a part of it, but appeared there. And in an instant,

00:15:46.020 Trudeau had a comment. He knew to denounce that. I mean, that's an easy thing and a right thing to

00:15:51.700 denounce, even though it was pretty clearly a false flag. We suspected at the time and have a large

00:15:57.620 amount of evidence to prove afterwards, but he denounced it immediately, right then and there.

00:16:01.940 Freeland immediately right there. Um, this happens and it takes, uh, how long, how long did it take

00:16:10.500 Trudeau? It took, it took Freeland days, several days, um, took Trudeau forever. And, and, uh, actually,

00:16:17.700 let's just play, uh, Trudeau's own response here, his own words.

00:16:24.260 So, I, he's got to say it for himself. I'm not going to put words in his mouth. Uh, Nigel, uh, would it

00:16:31.460 have been difficult to say something a little tougher and sooner? Well, you know, I think the obvious thing

00:16:35.940 would have been to denounce people who, um, had unacceptable opinions for the most part,

00:16:42.340 misogynist and racist, you know, I mean, how racist, how much more racist can you get than

00:16:47.460 calling for the destruction of other people? How much more misogynist can you get than

00:16:51.860 raping people? Or, or just, uh, well, let's not even, let's not even go there. No, I mean,

00:16:58.740 clearly this should have been the easiest thing in the world to say that's unacceptable in Canada. We don't

00:17:05.220 go for that. We do not tolerate that. If we find out who's responsible, we're going to line them up.

00:17:11.060 Yes. Canadians have a right to protest. He did say that, but they do not have a right to call 0.92

00:17:17.220 for the extermination of a people. And especially if people, it already knows far too much about

00:17:24.100 extermination. Um, that should have been easy. It writes itself. I didn't come prepared to say that.

00:17:31.300 It just, it just rolls off the tongue. That's who we ought to be, but apparently we're not,

00:17:37.380 we have to really carefully think about it. And why do we do that? Probably because you don't want

00:17:43.620 to upset all those potential liberal voters. And frankly, gentlemen, if that's who a liberal voter,

00:17:50.180 if that's who that government is now depending on, it is even more a time for change.

00:17:56.900 Well, that's, that's where I want to go with you, Corey is, you know, is, I mean,

00:18:01.700 the liberals have traditionally been strong with, uh, newer immigrant groups, you know,

00:18:06.020 first and second generation. And, and that, that goes back some time. And, uh, there was an

00:18:10.980 aberration for that after the 2011 election, uh, with Harper's majority government win, but,

00:18:16.180 you know, traditionally the liberals and not just in Canada, across most, much of the Western world,

00:18:20.900 center left and left parties tend to do better with immigrant groups, right parties tend to be a bit more

00:18:24.900 nationalistic and less welcoming of at least mass, large numbers of migration. Um, but the liberals

00:18:32.580 seem, have never been this, you know, they've always been a bit pandering, you know, like they'll

00:18:37.380 wear the clothes and they'll shut up to the events and, oh, fine, whatever. That's fine. That's it.

00:18:41.780 That's retail politics. I get that. But I've never seen it so radically impact the domestic politics

00:18:51.300 and the foreign policy of a government the way it has in the, you know, since October 7th here.

00:18:58.660 How strong is the influence of this kind of hardline Islamist, um, uh, voter constituency as an impact

00:19:09.460 on the liberal party's fortunes that, that they seem so reticent to denounce the most easily

00:19:16.740 denounceable things in the world? I don't know. I don't get it. I mean, that there's, that's just a fringe

00:19:21.860 of an immigrant group that, I mean, most Islamic people have no interest in slaughtering and wiping 1.00

00:19:28.020 out the Jews. And we've got large immigrant communities that certainly want no part in this fight, 1.00

00:19:32.180 whether it's the Hindu community or Sikhs or so many others. So you're pandering to this micro of a micro

00:19:37.540 of an offensive group that is, is been building, you know, it's been permissiveness for months with

00:19:43.780 this group and excuses. So they're, they're just criticizing Israel and then, or from the river to

00:19:48.900 the sea. Oh, you're interpreting that wrong. No, you're not. They want to squish Jews guys, but okay, 0.95

00:19:53.140 fine. We let that slide. But as it's gone on, the few who were a bit moderate, the few who perhaps

00:19:59.380 really thought they were just being critical of Israel, they've left those protests. And that's

00:20:03.860 why we're seeing the ugly core of it a lot more. Some of them are getting worse, but I mean,

00:20:09.380 I think of an example we saw in Calgary the other week with that clown standing there with a big

00:20:13.300 beatific grin on his face, doing a Nazi salute, holding up a picture of the Ayatollah

00:20:17.620 and, uh, at a group of Jewish people. And I mean, the messaging wasn't very subtle there. And a blue

00:20:24.820 haired, usual, typical, uh, white bread, uh, progressive came up and you could see her saying,

00:20:29.220 you know, could you do that? And he basically told her, the media is looking, maybe don't do it right

00:20:32.740 here. You know, jam it up your ass woman. He told her, and she wandered away in frustration. 1.00

00:20:37.060 She might not be back to that demonstration. That was the voice. That was an example of seeing the

00:20:40.340 voice of the moderate trying and losing. And now as we're seeing that core and we're seeing

00:20:44.820 how emboldened they are, that demonstration we saw earlier, they're not hiding it anymore.

00:20:48.980 They're not criticizing Israel. They're celebrating openly celebrating October 7th,

00:20:53.860 the act of terrorism. And Trudeau's gotten himself into such a habit that he can't critique these people

00:20:59.220 that even when they're practically on the veritable point of waving swastikas, he can't immediately say,

00:21:05.060 okay, this is it. The line has been crossed. And they're going to be more bold next week.

00:21:08.900 And the week after, because as long as they realize there's no close to this though,

00:21:12.740 that extreme group is going to keep coming out. I don't think there's a large voter constituency,

00:21:16.820 but it's like they've trained the liberals. You know, I, I, I don't think there's a large

00:21:23.620 constituency for, uh, people demanding Canada do something to assist in the annihilation of the 0.68

00:21:29.220 Jews and the river to the sea stuff. Um, but I, I think there's also, you know, moderate anti-Israel,

00:21:37.780 if we can call it that, you know, they, uh, they want to cut down the size, you know,

00:21:41.940 give it a bit of a thrashing, but they're not necessarily in the, the full blown genocide.

00:21:45.700 The naive two state solution idea that every time Israel tries it, they get bombed for trying.

00:21:50.980 Yeah.

00:21:51.460 But either way, I think it's a well-meaning, maybe not.

00:21:54.100 Admirably naive types there.

00:21:56.340 They, that's gone. This is, this is pure hate now.

00:21:59.300 Yeah. But I, I think he's afraid of offending them too, by seeing to take a side. And it's seen,

00:22:05.060 and Trudeau, I think, sees it as taking a side, Nigel, to condemn a march in front of Parliament Hill,

00:22:12.500 calling for the annihilation of the Jews in Israel.

00:22:14.420 Well, and he sees that as taking a side and therefore not engaging in the

00:22:18.580 Canadian doublespeak, you know, uh, what is it, uh, peace broker role where we don't have to take a side.

00:22:25.380 And that really is how he sees it. Then the only thing I can say is he is wrong.

00:22:32.020 You cannot, you cannot give any room to a group of people recommending that another group of people

00:22:41.460 be killed. That's in Canadian. That's not, that's not what this country is about. It's not even 0.62

00:22:48.020 ethically defensible in any other country, but good Lord.

00:22:51.620 I want to discuss also where the hell are the police on hate speech here? Where are the hate

00:22:55.540 speech laws? You know, you could get some crank, you know, in his basement and, you know, 1988,

00:23:01.780 some Keekstra type putting out nasty things. And like, I don't know, maybe his pamphlets were read

00:23:08.100 by like a couple of hundred people, probably very few of which ever gave it a second thought until he

00:23:14.900 appeared on television, uh, after being charged, you know, just some crank and we go after him.

00:23:20.820 That's actually hateful. And then we have cases that are not hateful. Like when the human rights

00:23:25.700 commissions came out for the Western standard and McLean's and the mid two thousands for publishing

00:23:31.540 articles that, uh, radical Islamists found to be offensive or cartoons that were found to be

00:23:37.860 offensive. These things authorities are willing to go after as hate crimes, but then openly and

00:23:45.060 brazenly calling for genocide. There's been nothing. There's been absolutely nothing, not even of the

00:23:51.620 organizers, let alone other participants who are just shouting, uh, genocidal slogans. So Derek, if you

00:23:57.540 have got a lone solitary hate merchant in his basement in a small rural community, it doesn't take much

00:24:07.780 for three squad cars to pull up outside the door, five to kick down the door and haul him away and 0.64

00:24:14.580 charge him and put him through the ringer. When you have got hundreds, if not thousands of people,

00:24:21.460 not nearly in one city, but in several others, you're starting to look at what the police are

00:24:27.380 physically capable of doing. Do you want to call out the, uh, the army in support of the civil power?

00:24:35.940 That is enough. Well, they thought about doing it for a couple of truckers. Well, they did,

00:24:39.940 but you notice that they didn't think of doing it for this. They will let this go in the hope, uh, that

00:24:46.260 it will stop, that it will all blow over and it will cease to be an issue by October of 2025. I don't know

00:24:54.660 that it will, but that is the strategy. They do not have the force to counteract this.

00:25:02.580 I couldn't, I could see you. You couldn't stop it while it's an action without causing a potential

00:25:06.340 riot. I mean, it would have been problematic, but we're hearing even progressive voices. I mean,

00:25:11.780 we're watching Warren Kinsella, for example, he is mortified by this and he's saying openly,

00:25:17.300 and he's always pro immigrant and everything else. A lot of these people are not Canadian citizens yet.

00:25:22.660 It wouldn't be that hard. You know, if you picked out 20 from each of these protests and suddenly

00:25:27.460 they found themselves on the plane back to where they were going, I gotta, or where they came from,

00:25:31.700 I've got a feeling a whole lot of people who are not Canadian citizens within those protests. I think

00:25:35.860 maybe I should just kind of tone my message down a little because I don't want to be the next one

00:25:39.940 back over there. Free Gaza trips. Yeah. You know, I mean, I'm not saying mass deportations,

00:25:44.180 but just some examples. You came here to be a Canadian citizen. You're welcome. That's great.

00:25:48.100 Make a life. But if you want to do that crap on our streets, here's the ticket home guys. We don't

00:25:53.220 have room for that. We got a lot of other people who would gladly fill your spot in this country.

00:25:57.700 There's, there's things the federal government could do if they found the will,

00:26:00.020 but they don't have any indication.

00:26:00.740 They don't have the will. And I, I, I'm not sure they do have the, the strength,

00:26:05.220 like the physical boots on the ground. It would be tough.

00:26:07.540 The courts and human rights commissions have intimated to a significant degree that they

00:26:13.380 generally don't find it to be hateful if it's not essentially a white guy.

00:26:20.100 Yeah. If it's Christian and white, that kind of stuff.

00:26:23.140 Oh, that's critical theory.

00:26:24.340 Because, because there can't be reverse racism and, and, and, and in the, uh, yeah, in the,

00:26:30.900 in the, in the, in the critical race theory world and all of this stuff, uh, the Jews are now white. 0.94

00:26:39.140 Some appear to be white. Some do not. In Israel, majority do not appear to be white.

00:26:42.980 Sephardic Jews are pretty dark. 1.00

00:26:44.180 Exactly. They're, they're not, they're not most of the Jews we would know would say Canada. 0.98

00:26:48.580 Most are not Sephardic here, but, uh, they have essentially become white. 1.00

00:26:53.860 In the, in this worldview and therefore they are capable of racism.

00:26:58.260 They are capable of, uh, uh, what's the term they use?

00:27:03.220 Um, privilege, privilege in these things, oppression, they can be an oppressor group.

00:27:09.140 Yeah. And, and so there's just so much of this weird stuff going on.

00:27:11.780 So, and therefore the, you know, these groups that are marching,

00:27:14.180 which are generally not white, although a lot of people cheering for genocide are now just

00:27:18.660 dumb liberal white college kids. Um, but they're apparently not privileged.

00:27:23.860 Um, but yeah, it's just that they're not able to be charged because they're not,

00:27:28.260 uh, they're a part of, uh, equity seeking groups is what they call it now. So.

00:27:34.580 So the old twin campus solution for Columbia University.

00:27:38.020 Yeah.

00:27:38.260 Yeah.

00:27:38.900 The two, the two, the two campus solution.

00:27:41.460 Uh, yes. One in America, one in Gaza. 0.95

00:27:44.180 You bet.

00:27:44.980 Let's just, uh, set up a new, uh, new, new campus for the wind gas. I'll let them go.

00:27:49.300 All right. So when Kenny was premier, you know, he had a chess conduct a review of how they did.

00:27:57.460 And, you know, the, uh, the doctor appointed to head it and the panel appointed to do this.

00:28:04.260 Um, they had all come into this generally supporting the government's view of crackdowns,

00:28:11.060 mandates, uh, arrests, that kind of stuff. And surprise, surprise, they agree that this was a

00:28:16.420 good thing that the government had conducted itself generally effectively and well.

00:28:20.660 Um, uh, I think it's Carrie Tate, uh, of the global mail. Um, uh,

00:28:26.740 global mail had an article, an interesting article, uh, story, I think just yesterday, uh,

00:28:31.140 that, uh, there's a second panel, uh, in AHS, uh, commissioned by the Smith government

00:28:38.100 to review the response. And unlike the Kenny panel, there are at least some doctors involved

00:28:43.780 here that did not agree with everything the Kenny government did. Um, so it's an interesting story

00:28:50.020 that we're having a second review. I thought that was a good thing, but the general reaction from

00:28:55.780 the pundit, uh, the pundit class, the media class has been horrible. How could we possibly have a

00:29:02.420 review of government actions for people who were critical of the government? Because the report that

00:29:08.580 that report could be critical of the government's response. And I think here, we'll start with you,

00:29:13.380 Corey. I think the reason the media is so upset about this is because the media was so all in on

00:29:20.020 following government talking points during COVID. Um, you know, we tried to position ourselves as a

00:29:25.540 standard here between the mainstream media, which saw themselves as conveying good and reliable

00:29:32.500 information, which unwittingly turned them into propaganda, propagandists for the government.

00:29:37.300 And then on the other side, you know, some people who, uh, you know, read some unnamed blog from

00:29:42.740 Azerbaijan that you've never heard before. And it, yeah, full of conspiracy theories and just baseless

00:29:48.580 loopholes and things like that. We tried to be independent, uh, finding middle ground on a lot

00:29:53.940 of these issues. Um, but the Canadian legacy media and most of the legacy media around the planet,

00:29:59.620 they were so all in on just repeating the government's message on these things

00:30:03.540 and changing the message whenever the government's messaging changed as well.

00:30:07.380 I think that's why they're so defensive here is that how could there possibly be a credible review

00:30:12.420 conducted by doctors that could come to the conclusion that the government was wrong and therefore

00:30:16.900 we were wrong. Well, that's part of it. There's pride. They invested themselves in that messaging

00:30:22.260 the whole time. But I mean, do we want to learn from this or not? You know, do I mean, if we did

00:30:27.460 have an unvarnished look and it turned out, boy, yes. In fact, what they did saved, if we could find

00:30:32.820 a measurable way, this many lives, fine. We've learned from that. But the problem they have is

00:30:36.900 that doctor, and I'm forgetting his name, Davison. He said the emperor has no clothes and there's some

00:30:41.860 truth to it. I mean, that messaging was considered blasphemy at the time, but there was truth

00:30:45.860 to it. The hospital hallways were empty. They'd shut down the hospitals except for the most dire

00:30:50.900 of emergencies and deferred procedures, which had a very serious cost and health implications of

00:30:56.740 people later. It is ridiculous that we don't talk about this because this, whether unintentional or

00:31:02.260 not, was a cost of the government policies. Did they save theoretically so many lives that it was

00:31:08.100 worth deferring those cancer treatments, those hip surgeries, those other things or not? Let's have a

00:31:13.620 look at it. Let's have a look at it from a government, a doctor who was willing at least

00:31:17.540 to break the orthodoxy. He's still presumably a doctor, still cares about the well being of people

00:31:22.020 and patients. And it's ridiculous to shoot this down at this point, just because you don't like the

00:31:27.060 voice of the doctor who's questioning it right now. Nigel, the media seemed to have had no issues

00:31:35.940 with the preconceived notions of the previous chair of the previous Kenny panel,

00:31:40.500 who went into it generally believing in the at least the broad outlines of the government's

00:31:46.820 actions at the time. That wasn't considered coming into this with a bias of preconceived notions.

00:31:53.140 But now you have a guy who was critical of at least some government measures during this

00:31:58.420 period, openly so, and all of a sudden that's having preconceived notions about what we should have.

00:32:04.340 Going into this with a bias, let me untangle that for us. Well, gosh, let's start with the gentleman

00:32:12.740 himself. He was at one stage in his career, head of emergency medicine, I believe it was in Red Deer.

00:32:21.860 And so we're not talking about a fellow out in a rural area who can't get employed in town

00:32:31.860 because there's something about him that people, this is a serious professional whose ideas may be

00:32:39.540 right and they may be wrong, but they're not based on prejudice. This is somebody who's actually

00:32:46.740 in the dill and who saw what was going on and had doubts about what was going on. So,

00:32:54.580 like I said, I wouldn't presume to say that because he differs from the narrative, therefore,

00:33:00.980 he must be right. But I absolutely wouldn't say that because he varies from the narrative,

00:33:07.700 he absolutely must be wrong and we should get somebody else who actually really understands this

00:33:11.780 stuff. You know, we've seen this before. In 2022, the Canadian Medical Journal published an article

00:33:20.180 in which it purported to review how Canada had done to that point, June 2022. Well,

00:33:27.380 guess who they got to write the review? The people who wrote the rules 18 months before.

00:33:32.740 What would you expect them to say? Oh, just everything worked just great. Well,

00:33:36.340 this was actually a time of lockdowns, enormous economic damage, children being kept out of

00:33:42.740 school. We're still seeing the effects of that. There is no way that you can go back to the authors

00:33:48.980 of the rules and say, well, how did it work out? Of course, it's going to work out great. So maybe you

00:33:53.220 should have somebody like, I believe his name is Davidson. You should have somebody like that come in

00:33:59.300 and say, well, let's just look at this again. The whole problem is who do you trust to review something

00:34:05.140 like this? I don't trust, none of us should ever trust any agency of the federal government because

00:34:12.500 they are the same people who wrote the rules. They are going to say it was great. Do I trust,

00:34:18.900 you know, do I trust the National Citizen Inquiry? I'd like to. I think they did wonderful work. But

00:34:25.780 when all is said and all is done, they don't have the official imprimatur of an agency that you can hold

00:34:32.580 to account. Well, Preston Manning had some, I thought his report was helpful, didn't go far

00:34:38.260 enough. I hope this report goes the distance. All right. Well, I want to turn towards the NDP's

00:34:47.860 leadership race in Alberta here. You know, I hate to say it, but man, New Democrats are so much nicer to

00:34:54.980 each other than conservatives. Conservatives. Conservatives know how to have a leadership

00:35:00.020 race. It's World War III every time. I mean, it's never a tame affair. It's life and death. Now, 0.85

00:35:11.140 normally because you're fighting to be the premier. Now, this is the first real NDP leadership race

00:35:17.460 ever. The NDP leadership race in 2014 that elected Rachel Notley, I could be wrong. Someone

00:35:24.100 correct me after if I'm wrong, but I think it was about 5,000 people voted. Yeah, something like

00:35:28.820 that. It was very small. There are UCP local nomination races that get that in a single

00:35:33.300 constituency. The entire NDP across Alberta had about 5,000 votes cast in that leadership race

00:35:39.380 because you were running to be the leader of the fourth party. It was an insignificant fringe party that

00:35:44.580 became the government because of the wild set of circumstances that we won't have to re-ash here.

00:35:49.940 This is the NDP's first real leadership race where you are auditioning to be the leader of the

00:35:55.220 opposition and potentially premier. The NDP can conceivably win power in Alberta now.

00:36:04.260 So it's actually a decent political job. If you're on the left in Alberta, it's probably the best job

00:36:09.060 short of being a federal liberal cabinet minister. So it's a big deal-ish, but it's been so low

00:36:17.780 profile. So before we get into, I guess you can take it wherever you want. We'll start with you,

00:36:23.140 Nigel. Why do you think it's been such a polite and dull affair compared to the last two UCP leadership

00:36:30.500 races that were just short of Omaha Beach? Well, a couple of reasons. One, of course, is that

00:36:43.060 conservatives worry about principles and they get very defensive of them. I'm not sure that's a bad

00:36:49.700 thing. I'm not sure the NDP don't here. There's a lot of dedicated socialists there who care about

00:36:54.420 their ideas. That was my second point. I'm not in front of the children. You know, we can rip each 0.99

00:37:01.140 other apart behind closed doors, but let's, you know, let's look respectable when we present ourselves

00:37:07.780 to the public. We'll see how it goes in some of the debates, because there are some personalities

00:37:12.580 in that group of five people who I think won't be able to hold back when it finally comes to it.

00:37:18.420 Well, they haven't had debates yet. We'll see old Gil. He's still, you know,

00:37:22.420 he's going to have a hard time playing. It's going to be too bad for him. I guess it's a 100%

00:37:30.100 membership vote now. There's not a 20% allocation for the unions anymore.

00:37:34.180 Yeah, it's an allocation on the board of the party, but not in the leadership.

00:37:39.220 So, yeah, that's going to, no, I imagine they're busy cutting each other's throats behind closed doors, 0.98

00:37:46.100 but they'll deny it. Because I expected more to like, this is an existential race for this party.

00:37:50.500 It's, are we going to swing to a more moderate left of center under Nenshi, Alberta party, old

00:37:56.980 red Tory sort of look, or are we going to stay true to our NDP principles? And I thought there'd be a lot

00:38:01.540 more fight. And I got a feeling with those first membership numbers, this is just a guess on my

00:38:07.140 part though, is that Nenshi's blown them out of the water so badly already, they realized that any

00:38:11.780 more fighting at this point is going to be detrimental to the party. So let's ride out this race,

00:38:17.140 put across our points, but it's going to be a coronation. That's, that's what I'm thinking is

00:38:21.700 probably the, there's probably two things. One is the left tends to not, not to eat their own as

00:38:28.500 much as the right does, particularly in Alberta. We, we love nothing more than killing ourselves.

00:38:34.420 It's, it's fun. We're guilty of it. Yeah. I'm fewer more guilty than me and you like we do. We,

00:38:41.060 we just love it for very bad reasons, sometimes good reasons, but, uh, the left tend to, yeah,

00:38:46.580 they kind of deal their dirty laundry behind closed doors more. Uh, when they're, if they have a defeated

00:38:51.540 candidate, find them a job or they kind of take care of their own, you know, like, like a union,

00:38:57.380 uh, the right, much less so. But I, I think one of the big issues here is that it, the other

00:39:04.420 campaigns might know that Benji has essentially got this in the bag. So going too hard after him

00:39:10.420 could see you not be on the front benches anymore. It could see you on the outs and also just overall

00:39:16.740 hurt the party. Why, why tarnish the purple paint that they're putting on? Um, Nigel, do you think,

00:39:23.620 uh, like the anecdotal numbers we're hearing out of the NDP is that he's doubled the membership and,

00:39:29.860 you know, if you have doubled the membership, you need to convince, you know, a very small number

00:39:34.100 of existing members at that point to vote for you. Uh, does it look to you like this is, uh,

00:39:40.180 just going to be a purple coronation? Well, be the sensible, be the sensible opinion to hold,

00:39:45.780 wouldn't it? Uh, new members, you have to make sure they vote as well.

00:39:51.380 The old members will, uh, to the degree which he has won the party. It's interesting to note now,

00:40:03.700 having an endorsement from a sitting MLA is not the same as signing up a hundred new members for a vote,

00:40:10.100 but it is interesting to note that, um, Hoffman has got, uh, five existing MLAs and seven who,

00:40:18.580 next MLAs, Ganley eight plus six. And then she has got nine plus two, which isn't bad, but you know,

00:40:24.740 it's not as if everybody is just falling in behind the procession to the throne. So I'm still looking

00:40:31.220 for a vigorous debate and maybe, uh, maybe a second ballot. Most MLA and MP endorsements,

00:40:39.300 99 times out of a hundred mean nothing. Well, look how many MLAs, uh, endorsed. Um, uh,

00:40:46.580 it was the main opponent of Smith in the leadership race, former finance. Oh, Taves. Oh yeah,

00:40:50.420 Travis Taves. Uh, damn near the whole caucus. Smith, uh, started off. She eventually scrapped

00:40:57.700 together one. I think by the end, she had maybe three or four out of, out of the government,

00:41:02.900 large governing caucus. She had a very small number. Um, because most local MPs and MLAs 1.00

00:41:09.300 can't carry anyone in their riding. They're, they're just there. Um, they'll be the odd

00:41:15.940 local MLA who can organize and can turn out a constituency, but they're pretty rare in most

00:41:21.940 circumstances. So the endorsements look nice. I think they might matter in the sense of, oh,

00:41:27.060 does this person have support and caucus therefore can, you know, build a team might matter from that,

00:41:33.380 but actual MLAs and MPs, only the rarest of circumstances can actually bring more votes along

00:41:39.620 than their own household. Well, and then she's showing to have a good organizational mechanism.

00:41:44.020 I mean, that's the thing, selling the membership is one thing you got to get them out too,

00:41:46.900 but looking at the well communicated, well organized rallies, he's been holding all over

00:41:52.580 the province, uh, good turnouts for this sort of race and a quiet time for the NDP. Presumably

00:41:58.260 that organizational group also knows that they have to stay in touch and get these people out to vote.

00:42:02.740 So he's showing quite a demonstration of strength. It'll be difficult.

00:42:06.500 And stay tuned. Word is one of the lesser known candidates, uh, that'd probably be Gil McGowan or, um,

00:42:13.460 what's her name? It's going to be Kalahoo Stonehouse.

00:42:16.980 Yeah. Uh, one of those two is likely to drop out and back Hoffman. So are we also now going to see

00:42:23.620 the anybody but Nenshi movement come? We don't have time for it today. I hope so. 1.00

00:42:27.860 Stay tuned next week, kids. Well, gentlemen, thank you very much for joining today. I thank all of you

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Western Standard - April 25, 2024

Trudeau’s War on the Constitution

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