WATCH： Dr. Nagase reviews images from COVID vaccines, shows no 'elements of life'
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Dr. Daniel Nagasi is a doctor that was treating patients in Alberta, Canada. He has been put on involuntary leave and has been making himself very busy over the last few months. In this episode, Dr. Nagasi reviews some images taken from the Pfizer and Moderna flu vaccines and discusses what they look like under electron microscopy.
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Good evening, I'm Melanie Risden with the Western Standard and tonight we are going to be speaking
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with Dr. Daniel Nagase. He is a doctor that was treating patients in Alberta, in Alberta hospitals.
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You know, he's an emergency room doctor and quite a few months ago got in trouble for treating people with COVID with the drug ivermectin.
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So he has been put on involuntary leave and has been making himself very busy over the last few months.
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And we're talking with Dr. Nagasi today. We're reviewing some graphics, some images that have come from the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.
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Now, Dr. Nagasi, you had an honors degree in cellular biology and physiology from before your doctor years, correct?
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I graduated from McGill University with an honors degree and a bachelor's of science in physiology.
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So we're diving into that, your kind of cellular biology degree right now,
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as we take a look at some of these images that you sent me with regard to the vaccines,
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what's in them, what they're made of, what they look like under an electron microscope.
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and some of the pictures are really strange to me obviously and so it's going to be very
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insightful i think for you to explain to us what you're seeing and if you have any concerns
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so before i get started i want to make sure everyone knows that my knowledge of cell biology
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and physiology goes back from the 1990s so it's not the latest and cutting-edge technology and
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knowledge that's out there in the medical research and cell biology
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field however if you get quite a bit of knowledge old knowledge especially old knowledge that has
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not changed with time that has been proved has stood the test of time is sometimes the
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best type of knowledge to have. So the story with these electron microscopy photos is that a few
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samples came to my personal possession of both Pfizer and Moderna and unfortunately both these
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samples had to travel for an extensive period of time in various vehicles. So they've been
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unrefrigerated for up to two months i don't know exactly how long they've been left unrefrigerated
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and so these vaccines are supposed to be kept quite cold correct that's correct
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and with the pfizer and moderna ones what's unusual is that the the refrigeration temperatures
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are supposed to be minus 40 uh in the minus 40s for the modernas and i think in the minus 70s
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for the Pfizer and that's very very unusual because no biologic reaction requires anything
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more than minus 20 to be completely frozen in time so you know if there's a biologic set specimen a
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specimen that has biologic activity you rarely see ever any temperature for refrigeration less
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than minus 20. Then which brings us to well what kind of chemical reactions
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require extreme cold in order to be halted, right? And so we're looking at
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free radical reactions, we're looking at polymerization reactions, we're looking
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at pretty advanced chemistry here, not the type of chemistry you can do in a
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regular chemistry lab. We're talking advanced chemistry that requires super cold temperatures.
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So again, that was the first very big warning sign that there is something very wrong with
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these injections called vaccines for COVID-19. The refrigeration temperature does not make
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any sense okay now there were uh quite a few images that you sent me uh again you know i i'm
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looking at them thinking this stuff looks very strange and some of it looked very strange to you
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too oh yes so initially um the the research group uh had a look at these these um samples of moderna
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and Pfizer under a regular microscope and you know although there was a lot of very interesting
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images it can't really be conclusive of what exactly we're looking at there were a lot of
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things that looked like salt crystals but were they actually salt or were they not salt crystals
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it's hard to tell so the the great thing about electron microscopy is that when you shine a beam
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of electrons on a sample of some type of material whether biologic or not biologic the samples
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because they absorb electrons when the samples release the electrons added by the electron
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microscope machine it releases them as x-rays and that energy released from the sample as x-rays can
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be put on a spectrum on a spectrum and you can determine what elements are in that sample so
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for a biologic sample for example we know things like phospholipids which make up the cell membranes
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of everything biologic on this planet they have long carbon chains they have nitrogen and they
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have phosphorus so although you can't you know exactly look at the molecule you'll know that
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whatever's in your sample contains all the elements that are typically seen in biologic
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life forms nitrogen phosphorus carbon and oxygen now let's stop there for one sec would you expect
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what would be contained in a vaccine to be biologic is that a normal expectation
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that would be normal expectations because if uh in let's say for a regular flu vaccine
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they were putting proteins from whatever the researchers thought would be the next
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pandemic strain of the flu that protein would be a protein created by a virus and the protein is
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made of the same building blocks that plants animals bacteria viruses that everything around
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us that's biologic is made of and so those so you would expect to see carbon oxygen nitrogen
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phosphorus all the things you would normally see in a protein okay and so why don't we start having
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going to look at some of these graphics that you sent, and let's have a look at what we're,
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you know, maybe you can explain to us a bit more what we're looking at.
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So we saw this shape from a Moderna vaccine, and before anything's put into an electron microscope,
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it has to be allowed to dry. And then once it's dried, to make sure that the sample doesn't get
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completely burnt to a crisp by the electron beam, the sample is coated with
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a very thin, one atom thick layer of either platinum, palladium, or gold. So
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this sample, all the samples for these ones, were coated in platinum. So that
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allows the reflectivity of whatever was on the sample to get to the
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detector when the electron beam hits the sample, bounces off, and hits the
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detector so that we can see the image. So what we first saw in the Moderna sample
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at a normal regular microscope which uses light is we saw various little
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crystal shapes and and patterns on the slide and then we did the platinum
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coating on it to get a closer look and as we got a closer look we see on top of
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little crystal things these these shapes that look like they look like chips right you see that
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square well that rectangle it's got all these little dots on it arranged like a grid and
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that's completely baffling to me so the question is well if it looks like a computer chip is it a
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computer chip well that's a good question so you see those little square boxes there that say
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spectrum 14 and spectrum 15 that's when we're telling the electron microscope to look at that
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little rectangle and tell us what elements are contained within those squares okay so if we
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scroll down on the file we'll see spectrum 14 and this is the x-ray diffraction spectroscopy
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So as the electrons that are added to the the sample are released, they have a certain energy
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spectrum. And so if you can just scroll up a little bit, you'll see that the the most prevalent
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element in that little square, which was spectrum 14, is carbon. And then the next most prevalent
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atom is oxygen. The very first peak there, it's just kind of a general release of energy
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from the sample after it's been bombarded with electrons so that one isn't assigned any element
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there are certain elements that x-ray diffraction spectroscopy can't detect and one of those
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elements is hydrogen so we don't know any how many hydrogens are in the sample because that
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that particular machine can't detect hydrogen so it looks like it's exclusively carbon and oxygen
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The Pt are those peaks that come up when there's platinum in the sample, right?
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And that's platinum we added to the sample so that it doesn't burn up when exposed to a strong electron beam.
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So there's platinum, Pd is palladium, and Cl, there's a little bit of chloride,
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which we would expect to see in anything that used to be in a salt solution.
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So if we scroll up again, square 14 was in the crystal leaf type part of the picture.
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Now we'll get to the thing that looks like a little computer chip with all sorts of dots in it.
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And then let's scroll down to the spectrum for section 15.
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and that's where we have we have carbon and oxygen again, platinum, palladium, and a little
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bit of chloride. So this is unlike any computer chip that I know of. There is no silicon in it.
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None. It looks like a computer chip but it's made of completely of carbon and oxygen
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and an unknown number of hydrogens so again this is not anything that i'm aware of because all the
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computer are you guessing that this is potentially a computer chip or or have you
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you know like how how certain are you what you're looking at well it looks kind of like a computer
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chip but it certainly isn't made of any silicon that all the computer chips we know of are made
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of the other thing it could be is it could be like a little plate made of carbon and oxygen
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the other you know potential options for that is it's a rectangle of of um graphite or graphene
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uh it doesn't look nothing on the picture looks like a crystal of carbon right a pure carbon
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crystal would be something like a diamond um other forms of carbon are carbon fiber which is
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little ropes of carbon and uh graphite or graphene which can take any form from sheets of carbon to
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um little squares of carbon but the interesting just comes from a um a lab some a canadian lab
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is that correct yes this was analyzed in a canadian lab okay and so this is the thing is
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when left at room temperature or you know the various temperatures that you'd have in a car
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for a month or more, these samples seem to organize into structures that I can't explain.
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The structures look like organized little chip structures, but they're not made of anything that
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normal chips are made of. They seem to, when they dry up, these samples dry up, they crystallize
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into crystal shapes but again it's not a salt crystal which would be sodium and chloride
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and acl it seems to be some kind of crystal shape made up purely of carbon and oxygen
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which is very unusual okay we have uh there were some other images unless there's more that you
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wanted to uh to point out with this one so this one was uh from the first sample of moderna let's
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to the next file and I'll show you what else we found in the Moderna. So the interesting thing
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before we get to the next Moderna file is that the x-ray spectroscopy didn't detect any nitrogen
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or phosphorus. So if those complex shapes, that rectangle with all the dots arranged in a grid
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was the result of some kind of biologic process, like, I don't know, contamination of the sample
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from mold or bacteria growing in the sample, then there should be nitrogen and phosphorus there
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in addition to carbon and oxygen. Because every living thing, whether it's a virus, plant, or
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animal is made up of proteins that contain nitrogen carbon oxygen and phosphorus so very
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confusing and curious uh this is the next image that you shared with me um let's let's get into
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what this looks like to you so when i first saw that image i thought oh well that could be anything
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right that could be a mold spore that is starting to sprout little legs because mold spores
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eventually will grow into a mold or a mushroom so you know when a mold spore sprouts it has to
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start growing little roots that could be what it is right and that's what it looked like to
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me initially and i thought to myself well is this uh mold contamination of a moderna sample
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But just as we saw before, we use the electron microscope to determine what elements are in the
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picture we're looking at. So there's three squares there. There's spectrum 20, spectrum 21, and
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spectrum 19. So let's scroll down and see what was included, what elements were in spectrum 19.
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So, spectrum 19, again, we see carbon, oxygen, a little bit of calcium, a little bit of sodium,
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a little bit of magnesium, a little bit of aluminum, 0.7% by weight, silicon, some sulfur,
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and then some more calciums. So calcium, sulfur, and sodium, those would all be expected in a
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biologic sample. So the big question for me is, where's the nitrogen? Where's the phosphorus?
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Because some proteins do contain sulfur, so sulfur certainly wouldn't be unusual.
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Aluminum is not supposed to be in any biologic protein, but sometimes
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cells get confused and instead of having calcium in a particular protein or enzyme, the cells can
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mistakenly incorporate aluminum instead of calcium. So that's why aluminum is probably very
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bad for people in the long run. It's not immediately lethal, but if you have enough
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aluminum in the body, the body can get confused and the cells will start putting aluminum
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into their enzymes and proteins instead of calcium, like they're supposed to.
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So does this say then that likely there is aluminum included in the, this is a Moderna vaccine,
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potentially? Yes, yes. This shape, this ball with the legs growing out of it,
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for some reason has aluminum in it. And I can say with certainty that this isn't a mold spore
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or some other type of biologic contamination because the only thing in it is carbon oxygen
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and no signs of nitrogen no signs of phosphorus which would indicate something biologic of origin
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so this thing that's growing is is non-biologic and it was found inside a moderna sample that was
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left unfrigerated unrefrigerated for anywhere between one and two months now how you you've
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made the comment it's growing how are you how are you witnessing that this is something that is
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growing well i don't have a hundred percent confirmation that this this um is growing as
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the sample evolves you know we should be getting images um sometime in the near future where we
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have an electron microscope attached to a time lapse camera that can examine to see you know how
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these structures change with time but certainly i i can't imagine that these these ball and leg
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like things are already pre-made and then frozen and contained within every single one of the
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the moderna vaccines interesting okay so then let's scroll down to spectrum 20 and that's another part
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of this this ball and leg type structure um and again we see the same thing uh it's predominantly
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carbon and oxygen no signs of nitrogen or or phosphorus that we would expect from a biologic
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organism uh and we see some calcium aluminum and a little bit more uh silicon in spectrum 20.
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and then let's scroll down again to spectrum 21 now when it comes to a vaccine would you see
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silicon ever for any particular reason any kind of coding or like what what not that i know of
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i mean silicon can be contained in various objects like sand uh has silicon atoms in it
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um but again not that i'm aware of okay and then again the other part spectrum 21 of that structure
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is carbon oxygen calcium and silicon with a little bit of calcium so again there's no signs of
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biologic elements nitrogen or phosphorus in any of what we saw that looked like mold spore
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sprouting legs so this was also seen in the moderna sample the same batch of moderna that
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we were looking at before that had these chips and crystals in it so then let's move on to the
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third moderna file okay uh and while we're doing that um so my question to you then uh dr nagase is
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in standard you know we'll call it old school vaccines uh when we're talking biologics i mean
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they were all made of biologics because they were either a um a a portion of a of a virus
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or a dead form of a virus or a shed of a virus or or something along those lines but but again
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the idea was that it was biologic because it contained the actual virus that's right okay
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Okay. And so this is clearly something very different.
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Well, the only thing I can say for certainty is all these strange structures we're looking at from the Moderna sample, they're not of biologic origin.
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So there was no biologic contamination of these samples.
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So this next one, so this is the most zoomed out photo.
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So this one, this particular structure was, I think it was big enough to see on an optical
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microscope, although I don't have any optical microscope pictures for this particular
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But if we scroll down, we'll zoom in on it and get a closer look of what we're looking
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So if we zoom out or zoom into the particular, the folded over part of that strand, so if
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we scroll up again, if you look at the right-hand most part of the
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strand, it looks like the strand is folded over, and the folded over part of
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the strand appears to be sitting on top of a crystal. So then, and so in the
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middle of that strand, there are some little things that that look like dots
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in between the folded over parts of the strand. So when we scroll down, we're
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to take a closer look at that. So what you see in that folded over bit of strand,
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actually just one screen up for for a second, is you see these little things that look like
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balls or eggs, right? And you know that strand could be carbon fiber or it could be a hair fiber,
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we don't know what it is. So let's scroll down and we'll have a look at the x-ray spectroscopy
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to see what exactly those little ball shapes and strand shapes are made of.
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So spectrum 60, if you scroll up a bit, I think that's the shaft. If we scroll up,
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spectrum 60 is one of the balls that wasn't in that folded part. Spectrum 61 is the crystal,
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spectrum 62 is the folded over part of the shaft and maybe one of those little round balls. But
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we'll see more of those later. So let's scroll down. If we look at spectrum 60, again, we see a
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whole lot of carbon, a lot of oxygen, some calcium, some sodium, and some chloride, silicon. No signs
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of nitrogen, no sign of phosphorus. So we know this is not biologic. This is an entirely carbon-based
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structure. Let's scroll down to spectrum 61. So again, pretty similar story. Carbon oxygen.
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For some reason, the square under spectrum 61 accumulated a lot of platinum. But again,
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platinum could be something that we added to the sample just to protect the sample from being
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burnt up in the first second or two of exposure to an electron beam. But again, no signs of nitrogen
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or phosphorus. It's just carbon oxygen. So we know that there was nothing biologic in
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spectrum 61 in that square. And then spectrum 62.
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same story again carbon oxygen some silicon some sulfur some potassium this time a bit of calcium
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but no nitrogen no phosphorus so nothing we saw on that that photo was of biologic origin
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it appears to be a primarily carbon oxygen structure so then let's move on to the next
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file so we can get a closer look at those things that look like little eggs or little round spheres
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was that in the same file or do we need to switch to another one we need to switch to the next file
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and this is all in the moderna so we're seeing multiple different shapes showing up in the
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Moderna vaccine. This one's actually the Pfizer picture. Let me see if I can find you the correct.
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So those little shapes were from Pfizer. Let me just give me a second here.
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it definitely seems it seems curious uh you know that especially considering that these vaccines
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are still sort of in their trial phase and in that in that case we don't really it hasn't really
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been divulged everything that is is included in the vaccine so yeah and this was one of the
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pictures that i looked at that that kind of had me going now that looks strange so what can you
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tell us about this one so here it looks like there's two completely different types of strands
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one strand looks like it could be a hair fiber or a dead insect leg right an insect leg would
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kind of look like that except it doesn't happen that was a hair or an insect leg we would see
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biologics right like we would see that it had it would contain biological elements elements yes it
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would contain nitrogen or phosphorus so we ran the spectrum on that thing that looks like an insect
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leg, nothing biologic. No nitrogen, no phosphorus. And then we have this thing
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that looks like a fiber with bulbs growing in it. So let's scroll down and
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we'll get a closer look at these bulb-shaped things. And we took a spectrum
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analysis of that, the surface of that bulb. So if we keep scrolling down, we'll
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see that spectrum 4 is again made of carbon and oxygen. Platinum is stuff we
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added to the sample and there's a little bit of chloride. So I did a bit of research into what
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kind of shapes do carbon, can carbon take in an electron microscopy. So we looked at carbon fibers
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and there was something that's relatively recent in technology development and that's carbon
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nanospheres. So if anyone looks up pictures of carbon nanospheres on the web and they look at
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pictures that have been taken with an electron microscope, the carbon nanosphere looks surprisingly
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similar to that bulb-shaped object. However, what I haven't been able to find in the literature,
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the scientific literature, is carbon nanospheres being grown out of carbon nanofibers. And that
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appears to be what's going on with that strand with bulbs growing along it. I guess it's a
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carbon fiber that was somehow manipulated that it would start growing carbon nanospheres.
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and then so then the question is what on earth is this doing in an injection intended for use in
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people well and i was just about to ask that like when you were looking into these carbon nanospheres
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what are they what are they for what were they developed for did were you able to ascertain that
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uh i wasn't able to ascertain what exactly carbon nanospheres are used for but i would imagine that
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carbon nanospheres would have some kind of industrial use the same as carbon fiber right
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carbon fiber is used to uh to make very strong materials but again i can't explain all these
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different shapes crystals chips strands bulbs all being made of carbon all showing a complete
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absence of nitrogen and phosphorus and all being seen within a moderna sample
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right and this is the most unusual thing is it appears that that moderna sample if it had any
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mrna or dna in it there's no signs of mrna or dna because mrna and dna are both composed of
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nucleotides and nucleotides have nitrogen and phosphorus so that particular moderna sample
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from somewhere in canada has no rna in it it has no mrna or if there was mrna in it somehow it's
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disappeared after being left unrefrigerated for anywhere from one to two months i think it's
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probably closer to two months. So with that refrigeration process, you know, and the fact
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that, you know, perhaps the idea is that what the design of these vaccines and whatever they're
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delivering, you know, it needs to be kept cold, obviously, or else it destroys. So what do you
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say to that when you know when it comes to then injecting it into the into the body because once
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it's injected i have to assume that it very quickly gets to a body temperature uh and so
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like it just seems very well confusing to me about the fact that it needs to stay so cold
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and then what happens to it once it once it warms up and clearly your images are showing
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what it looks like after it's been unrefrigerated so what we need to do is you know i need to be
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able to get a sample of freshly refrigerated of moderna or pfizer and get that to the research
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group that can examine it under the electron microscope and if we don't see any of these
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types of structures then we have proof that you know when it's refrigerated these structures are
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prevented from assembling and then after room temperature or body temperature then these
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structures are somehow designed to assemble into various different forms from chips to crystals to
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Well, it's a complete lack of disclosure, right?
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Did any press release from Pfizer and Moderna say,
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oh, in addition to the lipid nanospheres and the mRNA,
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we're also putting in a bunch of carbon-based experiments into the vaccine?
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that was not said in any press release any official documentation i don't think that was
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even disclosed to governments that there is some type of carbon-based uh technology
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in in all these injections well and i think that's part of the part of the um you know
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the confusing part for a lot of people is under this emergency use use authorization
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there's a lot that doesn't need to be disclosed and uh and for somebody who is discerning about
00:33:08.680
you know you know there's a lot of people who who care about what they're putting in their bodies
00:33:13.520
and so if you're not even being told it's not even being disclosed because of the fact that
00:33:18.640
it's in this emergency youth use authorization state uh that would you know you would think
00:33:25.420
there would be a lot of concern around that for sure well and the thing is i don't even know if
00:33:32.300
this carbon technology this carbon nanotechnology is in every batch or is it just in the batches
00:33:39.740
they sent to canada is canada one half of an experiment and certain states in the u.s are
00:33:45.740
getting a slightly different batch without the carbon nanotech and then you know are countries
00:33:52.700
around the world being given different injections and we're being observed to see well who dies the
00:33:59.500
fastest who gets the sick or what kind of illnesses result from experimental ingredients
00:34:06.460
being indiscriminately and without disclosure uh being given to people yeah a lot of questions for
00:34:15.420
sure now i i feel like i heard you say that you do plan to or were planning to have a look at
00:34:23.420
uh or possibly try to get um more images to show whether like a time lapse and whether things are
00:34:32.300
growing are are you working on that do you have that in your plans uh are we going to be able to
00:34:37.740
get an update from you on that yeah the research group is working at that is always working on that
00:34:43.820
but again with this type of research um you know it has to be kind of clandestine because
00:34:51.020
there's a lot of money behind not letting anyone know what's actually in these injections so we're
00:34:58.060
kind of secretive about that um but you know before we go on i just want to show the couple
00:35:03.500
files of the pfizer um just to show that there's strange structures growing in the pfizer samples
00:35:09.980
as well so if we could poke um the pfizer files so this is what we saw um in the pfizer sample and
00:35:19.180
in a a droplet of those of the pfizer you'd see literally thousands of these little squares
00:35:27.820
and um so then if we can move on to the next file from pfizer
00:35:31.660
so it looks like little crystals you know maybe salt maybe something but i'm i'm guessing you're
00:35:44.640
going to tell us it's not containing the things so that's what i first yeah that's what i first
00:35:50.060
thought because we saw those same crystals in the regular optical microscopy but of course
00:35:57.340
with optical microscopy, you can't really tell, well, it looks like a salt crystal, but you don't
00:36:02.700
know for sure. So we put it under the electron microscope, and then we took two samples for it
00:36:08.220
to examine what elements are in spectrum 32 and I think spectrum, I can't see clearly on my screen,
00:36:16.120
but no, spectrum 36 and spectrum 37. So let's scroll down and find out what elements were there.
00:36:21.840
So if this was a salt crystal, we'd expect to see sodium and chloride. And what do we see? In square
00:36:29.400
36, it's carbon, oxygen, a little bit of sodium, a little bit of chloride, but again, it's carbon,
00:36:36.380
oxygen, platinum, which was an artifact because we added that to the sample, and a little bit
00:36:41.880
of silicon. That's really unusual. And let's scroll down to spectrum 37.
00:36:47.000
and again in that particular square there's only a tiny bit of sodium no detectable chloride and
00:36:57.320
it's carbon oxygen with a very little bit of silicon so again it might look like some type
00:37:04.280
of a salt crystal but it's made up of purely carbon and oxygen and and possibly hydrogen but
00:37:11.880
again we don't know how much hydrogen is in that sample because the detector can't detect
00:37:16.880
the spectrum for hydrogen so again logic material there no signs of a biologic material
00:37:30.240
and similar to the moderna samples the pfizer sample also had fiber-like structures and then so
00:37:39.680
the next file will show the Pfizer fiber structure alongside a crystal, and the spectrum analysis
00:37:48.080
again showing that these structures are made purely of carbon. So we have a fiber-like structure,
00:37:55.280
and this sample was from a Pfizer sample, and spectrum 46 is on the fiber, spectrum 48 is on
00:38:03.840
the fiber, and spectrum 49 and 50 are from the crystal, so let's scroll down there.
00:38:11.840
So 46, which was also on the fiber, is carbon oxygen, calcium, some magnesium, some silicon,
00:38:20.560
and it has a bit of an unusual element from the lanthanized series TM. I'm sorry, I didn't take
00:38:28.560
my measure in uh my major in chemistry so i'll have to get look up the name for you for tm tm is um
00:38:46.000
i know i'm rocking my brain through my chemistry uh in high school and i don't remember what tm was
00:38:53.520
uh tm is number 69 on the periodic table called thulium and again that's a very unusual element
00:39:02.160
to see like i don't know what thulium is doing inside the pfizer vaccine but there is a detectable
00:39:08.560
amount of thulium is that metal is that from the metal yeah it's a metal it's a type of lanthanide
00:39:14.720
metal which is is yeah it's not something you see every day okay so then let's scroll down
00:39:22.640
spectrum 47 and that was on the fiber part that was seen in the fight and in the pfizer sample
00:39:29.760
spectrum 47 which was another part of the fiber again same thing carbon oxygen a bit of calcium
00:39:36.400
some sodium chloride so there's some salt on that part of the fiber but again thulium silicone the
00:39:43.200
tms are showing up for some reason so there's thulium in the pfizer sample that we didn't see
00:39:48.480
in the moderna sample again is there a chance that that's an additive again or no this isn't
00:39:57.360
something normal quite possibly it's it's an additive um it's a very unusual additive
00:40:03.680
i don't know what the biologic i just mean an additive um in the lab so that the the sample
00:40:10.640
doesn't burn under the electron microscope oh no no it's only it's only platinum palladium or gold
00:40:16.960
that would show up as an additive from the lab thulium is a very unusual contaminant okay yeah
00:40:24.720
it's a it's a very unusual like i don't know i wouldn't it would be presumptuous for me to say
00:40:30.400
it's a contaminant uh it could have been added intentionally to the sample and when it forms
00:40:36.640
fibers it gathers the thulium for some reason and incorporates it in the fiber for some reason
00:40:43.440
so again this is a lot of questions what is exactly going on so let's keep scrolling down
00:40:49.120
spectrum 48 i believe was also from the fiber so this spectrum 48 didn't have any thulium
00:40:56.880
it was just carbon oxygen magnesium silicon and a bit of sodium and calcium and let's keep scrolling
00:41:04.000
down so again spectrum 49 similar story it's carbon oxygen and then spectrum 50
00:41:12.380
I believe is the same story again carbon oxygen a little bit of silicon and then
00:41:19.720
keep scrolling down and I think spectrum 51 can we scroll back up to the top has
00:41:28.900
a lot of silicon in it. So spectrum 51 was that little dot, that bubble that didn't seem to have
00:41:37.860
shape. For some reason that bubble has a lot of silicon in it, but it doesn't quite look like
00:41:42.980
a computer chip. Spectrum 49 and 50, that was from a similar looking crystal that we found
00:41:49.620
sitting beside the fiber. So again, if we scroll down to spectrum 49 and 50,
00:41:54.100
we see that it's similar to the previous Pfizer crystals we saw in the previous
00:42:00.700
file that it was made of carbon and oxygen. So we have polymorphic which is many different forms
00:42:11.280
they all seem to be made predominantly out of carbon and oxygen and they're in both the Moderna
00:42:19.600
and Pfizer samples, and they seem to be in fiber forms. In the Moderna sample, it also,
00:42:27.360
the carbon oxygen structures seem to be taking nanosphere forms and crystalline forms. And in
00:42:35.100
the Pfizer sample, which I believe didn't have quite as long a transport time as the Moderna
00:42:43.320
sample, so it may have been left at room temperature for only about a month, whereas
00:42:48.340
the Moderna might have been at room temperature from one to two months. The Pfizer ones seem to
00:42:54.400
only be forming fibers and crystals. So again, what are all these things doing? Carbon oxygen
00:43:04.660
can certainly be a sign that there's graphene in it, but how do they make graphene take all these
00:43:10.740
different shapes right from spheres to fibers to crystals this is this is a technology that
00:43:18.260
i am not aware of with my science knowledge so i guess what we'll do is uh we're gonna we're gonna
00:43:28.100
follow up with you hopefully sorry i think we're just getting a little bit of um echo or feedback
00:43:34.340
there uh hoping to follow up with you and uh you know see what you find out from the lab after
00:43:44.420
time to see if these things are in fact growing and then you said one of the other challenges is
00:43:50.340
to hopefully uh get your hands on the refrigerated or the frozen um vaccines to see what they look
00:43:58.980
like before they've had a chance to to warm up to room temperature or body temperature
00:44:08.340
and that's a that's a huge question here is you know given that we're seeing all these these
00:44:16.020
shapes form inside these vaccine samples after they've been left at room temperature for an
00:44:22.580
extended period of time, what on earth are these injections doing inside of
00:44:28.200
people's bodies, right? Because there's plenty of carbon and oxygen available in
00:44:34.400
people's bodies, so if this is some type of technology that can use carbon and
00:44:39.980
oxygen that's in the environment to self-assemble into fiber-like
00:44:45.300
structures, crystal-like structures, bulb-like structures, is this actually
00:44:52.020
going on inside people's bodies after they get the injection and then does it take a long time does
00:44:58.660
it take two to three months for these structures to gradually form inside the blood and what are
00:45:04.660
they doing there and what's the purpose of them being there yeah and and that's the thing where
00:45:09.940
my interest lies too is you know what comes down the road uh what do these look like like you're
00:45:16.260
you're saying in a few months, if not years. So that'll be an interesting follow up. And hopefully
00:45:21.960
we can touch base with you again, once you have a little bit more information from the labs on
00:45:26.980
that time lapse or, you know, an extended period of monitoring these. And please do let us know if
00:45:34.600
you are able to get information or, you know, get get more data when it comes to these vaccines
00:45:50.900
Well, thanks very much for sharing that with us, Dr. Nagase,
00:45:58.060
All right, thank you very much for having me on.