Western Standard - WATCH： Epstein： Put ’em all in the woodchipper

00:00:00.000 Good day and welcome, I'm Derek Fildebrandt, publisher of the Western Standard.

00:00:28.380 Today is February 4th, 2026, and you're watching The Pipeline.

00:00:34.120 I've got Nigel Hannaford is away this week, he's, you know, he was the main speechwriter

00:00:41.240 for Stephen Harper, and so he's off paying tribute for the 20th anniversary of Stephen

00:00:46.040 Harper becoming Prime Minister at events throughout Ottawa, the unveiling of Orchard, so he's not

00:00:50.920 with us today.

00:00:51.840 In his place is the much older and much more distinguished David Veitschnik, Western Standard's

00:00:58.380 business and energy reporter.

00:01:00.260 Thanks for having me.

00:01:01.260 And on the usual roundup, Western Standard Senior News Editor, Dave Naylor.

00:01:05.980 Hello, Derek.

00:01:09.460 Filling in for Corey Morgan, though, we've got from an undisclosed location in prison,

00:01:14.340 he's not dead, Jeffrey Epstein.

00:01:17.340 Yeah.

00:01:17.640 Oh, you've hit a new low on your intros, Derek.

00:01:23.600 You're alive!

00:01:24.860 I knew you didn't kill yourself.

00:01:27.540 I wasn't even completely sure someone else, completely convinced someone else killed you.

00:01:29.940 Oh yeah, it'll be a great made for TV movie.

00:01:31.520 I knew you're alive.

00:01:33.280 Exclusive, Western Standard exclusive with Jeffrey Epstein.

00:01:37.240 We can't, we obviously can't tell you where he is.

00:01:40.380 But, you know, but yeah, this is, this is great.

00:01:44.200 It does kind of look a little bit like him, doesn't it?

00:01:46.100 It does.

00:01:46.760 It does, actually.

00:01:47.660 The background kind of looks like Epstein's house, too, kind of, the outside of it.

00:01:51.000 Oh, no, the temple.

00:01:52.920 No, it looks like the temple.

00:01:53.700 Yeah, the temple, that's it, yeah, yeah.

00:01:54.840 The temple on the island.

00:01:56.300 Oh, no, we gave away where he is.

00:01:57.960 He's at the island right now.

00:01:59.720 Last man standing. 0.99

00:02:00.480 Thank God our audience couldn't hear the shit talk banter before we started rolling. 0.99

00:02:11.160 It was dark. 1.00

00:02:12.780 It was dark.

00:02:13.460 This is much more calm and rational now.

00:02:19.460 We're all going straight to hell, right to the bottom, all the way to the basement.

00:02:24.580 Okay, well, speaking of Epstein, we're going to have to talk about the Epstein files.

00:02:29.560 I mean, one segment is not even not doing it justice, but, so, we'll talk, maybe we'll

00:02:39.920 talk about how we're trying to cover it, the angles we're finding, you know, we've got

00:02:43.820 journalists, oh, he's on his desk right now, but normally Jackson right behind us, Jackson

00:02:50.360 Loy, the way we're trying to cover it in Canada and try and find some, we're doing the kind

00:02:56.000 of the insecure Canadian thing where, well, what's the Canadian angle on this?

00:02:59.780 Well, actually, there are Canadian angles and there's Alberta angles we've been picking

00:03:05.000 up, you know, thanks to the, thanks to Skynet, we're able to go through everything, you know,

00:03:11.320 there's 3 million documents and more to come, but anyway, we'll try to make it interesting.

00:03:19.000 I mean, there's so much for Epstein that is interesting, but we'll try to add some additional

00:03:21.700 value that's not just stuff that you've already seen already, because I can't, I can't stop,

00:03:28.180 I can't stop reading Epstein files, I can't, there's a lot of slop, there's a ton of slop

00:03:34.100 out there, some inaccurate, out of context.

00:03:39.540 You don't need to sensationalize Epstein stuff, it's mind-blowing without any sensation, so

00:03:48.180 anyone who's sensationalizing this stuff is just a click farmer, and anyway, everyone's

00:03:55.600 losing their minds about Alberta independence, Thursday to Saturday, the Conservative Party

00:04:01.160 Canada was in town in Calgary for its biannual national convention, I couldn't walk more than

00:04:10.640 a few steps without someone wanting to talk to me saying, you know, people from outside

00:04:14.040 Alberta saying, what the hell is going on?

00:04:17.360 What the hell's going on?

00:04:18.200 You guys are actually doing this, like, how, or how likely is this to happen?

00:04:21.380 I'm like, it's happening.

00:04:23.100 Like, successor?

00:04:25.220 No?

00:04:25.520 I don't know, I couldn't tell you that, I can give my thoughts on the likeliness of the

00:04:29.160 vote, succeeding, but we're definitely having a vote, Alberta's headed to a referendum on

00:04:33.180 independence, it's happening, everyone's around the country, they're talking about

00:04:39.660 this, and they just can't seem to believe it, and it's broken the minds of some people,

00:04:43.980 guys like David Eby, calling everyone who's nationalist treasonous, which means if someone 0.97

00:04:50.840 has committed treason, you actually need to kill them, like, we should be killing, we 0.96

00:04:53.740 should be killing people who commit treason, I think so, at least, so I'd ostensibly 0.99

00:04:59.140 he's at a minimum calling for us to be jailed, if not killed, anyway, we're going to talk 0.95

00:05:03.680 about that, but as I said, the Federal Conservative Convention was in town, we, you know, we had

00:05:13.020 a full crew of reporters on the ground there, David, you covered the speeches, I did, Dave

00:05:19.840 Naylor, you were running the whole crew, we essentially moved the newsroom a kilometre and

00:05:24.580 a half east, down to the Stampede grounds, where the convention was, so it was a pretty

00:05:29.260 busy time, my job was mostly hobnobbing, that kind of stuff, I was sick of cheap wine and

00:05:35.820 beer by the second day, but, Paulie of speech, David, it was well received, yeah, by, more

00:05:46.380 of the same, basically, that's the way I would sum it up, it was more of the same, well, that

00:05:50.000 was kind of what I said before, I was talking to some delegates the day after, it was kind

00:05:53.000 of like, yeah, that was kind of what we expected, kind of the numbers as well, he got, what,

00:05:56.160 it was at 87.4% approval for his review, and basically everyone I talked to said, well,

00:06:02.020 that figures, that's kind of what they were expecting, not too big, not too small, above

00:06:05.840 Harper's, below Danielle Smith's UCP leadership review a couple years back, yeah, yeah, this is

00:06:14.040 as usual, this basically sums it up perfectly, really, yeah, Dave, it ran to me as the perfect

00:06:20.800 speech of someone running for Prime Minister two years ago, you know, a year ago, we're,

00:06:27.980 I guess, headed towards an election, and, you know, Trump is just, upsetting the apple cart

00:06:33.140 doesn't quite put it right, but, you know, he's just totally flipped Canadian politics

00:06:36.960 upside down, the Liberals are getting, are gaining ground for a big comeback, which ultimately

00:06:42.040 succeeds, coming in just, just a slight of a majority, uh, but a year and a half, or two

00:06:47.160 years ago, people are talking about, well, you know, Paulieff has a chance of forming

00:06:51.440 the biggest majority government of any Prime Minister in Canadian history, and the message

00:06:57.800 I think he gave on the weekend to delegates was exactly that, except he just didn't have

00:07:02.840 the punching bag of Justin Trudeau, that was the only difference, and, and so, and there's

00:07:06.860 a lot less emphasis on Mark Carney, because Mark Carney is, I mean, he's obviously

00:07:11.600 not great, I don't think he's very good for the West, but he, he's not, he doesn't have,

00:07:16.420 the term I always use for Justin Trudeau, like, back, fief and gesect, a punchable face,

00:07:20.720 people don't look at Carney and just say, I hate that guy's face, he's just not as hateable,

00:07:26.060 he hasn't had enough time yet, but he's also just not as hateable of a personality,

00:07:28.780 so, other than Trudeau, like, he, he was running for Prime Minister two years ago, I think,

00:07:34.060 at this weekend's convention.

00:07:35.080 He was, I was just waiting for him to, to finish with the line that, you know, all Canadians 0.99

00:07:40.660 deserve a nice house on the safe street, protected by our great armed forces and, and a nice flag,

00:07:46.640 uh, he didn't, oh, axe attacks, stop the crime, yeah, he was less, he was less soundbite-y,

00:07:55.740 you know, putting a tag on anything or giving nicknames to people, trying to appear more statesman-like,

00:08:01.660 uh, he did show, uh, showed emotion, uh, you know, choked up when he was talking about his,

00:08:07.460 uh, autistic daughter speaking for the first time, you know, I, you know, I had to choke back a tear,

00:08:12.820 so it was, uh, it was a speech that went on too long, 50 minutes, uh, and it was a speech that

00:08:19.520 didn't cover any new topics, it was a speech that I thought didn't cover the Alberta independence

00:08:25.560 threat enough, uh, you know, but, uh, at the end of the day, it was all, it was a, it was a good

00:08:32.980 speech from where he was at, and, and the delegates, uh, the delegates liked it, uh, uh, and it ended

00:08:40.680 up with 87.4%, but it, uh, I was hoping for more.

00:08:45.520 Yeah.

00:08:46.420 Uh, Corey, let's talk about what he did not talk about.

00:08:50.360 The way, the way I, I put it was, I didn't disagree with really anything he said, uh,

00:08:55.940 for the most part, at least, um, but he didn't say what needed to be said.

00:08:59.940 He, um, you know, he very tangentially touched on that there's independence movements in Quebec

00:09:06.600 and Alberta now, you know, that's a feeling of the liberals.

00:09:10.180 Okay.

00:09:11.160 Uh, but his message was more or less, elect me, everyone, everyone will like me, and then

00:09:15.520 these problems go away.

00:09:16.540 Um, you know, he, he said exactly what I expected on Alberta independence, which is,

00:09:21.860 I understand there's grievances, but me being elected ends those grievances overnight.

00:09:28.600 And that's not the case.

00:09:29.980 Do I think it takes away kind of the punching bag of having, uh, you know, a Ontario and

00:09:33.820 Quebec based liberal government in Ottawa?

00:09:35.700 Yeah, it takes that away.

00:09:36.900 That grievance is gone, but he didn't mention a single thing he would do other than pipelines,

00:09:41.220 at least on paper, the liberal support pipelines now on paper, at least.

00:09:44.700 Um, but, you know, he didn't say like an equalization.

00:09:50.240 You know what?

00:09:51.180 I'm not going to give you everything you want.

00:09:52.840 We're not going to get rid of it, but you know, we're going to make equalization more

00:09:56.800 fair.

00:09:57.840 Um, you know, he, he didn't talk about, you know, you're hugely underrepresented in the

00:10:02.720 House of Commons and wildly underrepresented in the Senate.

00:10:05.420 But that's something we should address.

00:10:07.980 No, no, um, no solutions presented at all, other than these problems go away simply by

00:10:16.820 having me in the prime minister's chair.

00:10:19.040 Um, he didn't talk about Trump really.

00:10:22.780 Um, and I don't, I don't actually know how he should talk about Trump in a way that's

00:10:26.900 politically smart.

00:10:27.620 A significant number of conservatives in Canada back Trump, um, and don't take kindly to criticism

00:10:34.280 of him.

00:10:35.120 But at the same time, a lot of people, not, not just kind of elbows up boomer liberals.

00:10:40.020 A lot of people are like, well, yeah, well, the guy's threatening to annex us.

00:10:42.680 We have to have a robust response.

00:10:44.140 How do you react to him?

00:10:45.720 I don't know how we should respond, but he has still not really found his voice about how

00:10:51.100 to respond to Trump.

00:10:51.840 And then the, one of the issues that's animating huge numbers of Canadians well beyond even

00:10:57.460 just a conservative base now is immigration.

00:10:59.800 Not a word, at least that I can remember about that, like not a word.

00:11:04.640 Yet, like voters like me are not even going to consider voting for a party that's not hardline

00:11:09.200 on this, let alone ignores the problem's existence.

00:11:12.360 So those are kind of the big things.

00:11:13.580 Trump, independence and immigration, where he either very lightly glazed over it or didn't

00:11:20.220 touch it at all.

00:11:22.560 Yeah.

00:11:23.100 And, and, uh, you know, David in the middle wrote a really good summary, uh, of it in,

00:11:26.740 in the Western standard recently, I read it and I, I watched it streaming here from my

00:11:30.740 undisclosed location down in the South here.

00:11:33.420 And, uh, it was mushy.

00:11:35.640 It was just more of the same.

00:11:37.060 It really was.

00:11:37.900 I think that's what a lot of the people's, uh, interpretation of it is.

00:11:41.240 I mean, this was his chance to give a large address that a lot of Canadians are going to

00:11:46.900 watch or listen to or get bites out of at least to say, well, what am I going to

00:11:51.800 do is different than what I offered in an election year ago, or as different than what

00:11:56.460 Carney's offering today.

00:11:57.980 And he came up short.

00:11:59.640 He carefully avoided any hot button issues.

00:12:03.420 Uh, you know, that's that risk that comes with conservative leadership.

00:12:06.400 It all continues to happen.

00:12:08.080 They want to out liberal the liberals and maybe eventually they'll win power that way.

00:12:11.900 But the, you know, when it comes to this, for example, dodging on the Alberta independence

00:12:15.560 issue, he did what conservatives typically do with, with Alberta.

00:12:19.500 The liberals ignore us and don't care about us, but the conservatives take us for granted.

00:12:23.960 I mean, they just assume.

00:12:25.180 So we don't have to speak to the Albertans because they're going to vote for us anyway.

00:12:29.420 And, uh, I, I think perhaps some of those strategies better understand that those resources and focus

00:12:35.340 are now going into a completely different direction than the federal conservatives.

00:12:40.400 Um, it, it, it just wasn't what anybody would want it to be.

00:12:44.640 I mean, it got, I mean, he got his support levels were high as everybody kind of expected,

00:12:49.100 but I think people want to see somebody who's showing a change in direction, uh, some vision

00:12:55.360 to change things and present it.

00:12:58.000 So Canadians want to embrace that change so that an election can be won.

00:13:02.340 And I just didn't see any of that.

00:13:04.180 I just saw a more practiced Pierre Polyev from a year ago, but nothing new on the table.

00:13:09.840 And I don't think it's going to bode well for the conservatives who are already looking

00:13:13.040 pretty bleak in the polls right now.

00:13:15.820 Um, did he talk about ending the CBC funding during the speech?

00:13:21.040 No.

00:13:21.380 Don't recall that at all.

00:13:22.220 No.

00:13:22.520 All right.

00:13:22.800 So for me, that is the biggest sign yet.

00:13:25.360 Uh, Polyev's only going to get worse.

00:13:29.600 Um, when he ran for the federal conservative leadership, uh, at every rally, he says,

00:13:35.560 and we're going to defund the CBC.

00:13:36.980 And, you know, you know, just imagine, you know, uh, a family pulling up in a U-Haul

00:13:42.080 and the former Toronto downtown headquarters of the CBC are moving families in, you know,

00:13:46.300 it was kind of a joke, but it was kind of a play on policy, you know, affordable housing.

00:13:49.340 And we're just going to house people in the former CBC buildings.

00:13:52.580 He did it at every stop.

00:13:53.920 And it was always, always the biggest applause line by far.

00:13:58.580 And to my surprise, and to Polyev's credit, he kept saying it after he had the leadership.

00:14:03.680 Normally, you know, everyone remember Aaron O'Toole?

00:14:05.840 Oh, I'm true blue, Mr. Conservative.

00:14:07.800 During the leadership, the instant he had it, he goes left of Trudeau on a number of issues.

00:14:13.840 Polyev didn't backtrack after he had the leadership.

00:14:16.560 He doubled down and was good.

00:14:18.960 And the Conservative numbers went up to a historic high.

00:14:21.060 Just the Liberal numbers ended up higher because the NDP disappeared from the earth.

00:14:26.720 He no longer talks about it.

00:14:28.100 He backed away from his CBC promise at the end of the campaign,

00:14:31.080 hoping it would buy him some goodwill from the CBC.

00:14:33.340 Spoiler, it did not.

00:14:34.860 He backed away from his promise to get rid of the media subsidies,

00:14:37.560 hoping it would buy him some goodwill with the legacy media.

00:14:40.800 It did not.

00:14:41.600 But he is not, I thought, well, it's a conservative crowd.

00:14:46.340 He's got to mention it.

00:14:47.680 Like, that's what everyone loves.

00:14:49.200 He didn't mention it.

00:14:50.820 I think the CBC pledge is dead.

00:14:53.620 And I think that's a sign that he's going to take the lesson that the legacy media wants him to take,

00:15:00.700 which is, for you to win, you're going to have to be a lot less conservative.

00:15:04.200 You're going to have to be less of a Rau-Rau-Burta guy. 0.69

00:15:07.840 You're going to have to become more liberal.

00:15:09.860 So, maybe that works, but it didn't work for Aaron O'Toole.

00:15:15.060 It didn't work when, to a lesser extent, Andrew Scheer tried it.

00:15:21.620 Didn't work.

00:15:23.300 You know, Stephen Harper was pretty mushy by the end of his prime ministership.

00:15:27.340 Didn't work for him.

00:15:29.060 It didn't work for Jason Kenney.

00:15:30.720 Like, this does not work.

00:15:32.400 But, yeah, I take that as a sign that Polyev, he's lost his mojo.

00:15:38.380 I don't, I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think we're going to, I think we have seen the best Polyev.

00:15:44.820 I think Polyev we see from here on out is not going to be as good.

00:15:47.900 Oh, I'd 100% agree on that.

00:15:49.240 And like you were saying before, he's not bringing anything new.

00:15:51.600 So, how does he expect to win this time again?

00:15:53.600 I'm trying to be a softer, cuddlier version of the one last time.

00:16:00.520 But, that playbook has been tried by almost every conservative at some point.

00:16:04.720 It very rarely works.

00:16:06.380 And actually, in modern Canada, it never works.

00:16:10.360 It, like, name one recently who, for who that's worked.

00:16:13.640 I guess Doug Ford.

00:16:15.720 I guess.

00:16:16.760 There's like no point to his premiership at all.

00:16:19.140 Like, you may as well just have the Liberals.

00:16:21.140 You may as well just have the NDP.

00:16:22.260 Like, it's so indistinguishable.

00:16:23.780 So, yeah, the party's in power, but to what end?

00:16:27.340 We would be remiss not talking about another important speech on the weekend.

00:16:31.740 And that was of Premier Daniel Smith.

00:16:35.340 She actually gave a quite short speech, I thought.

00:16:37.900 Yeah.

00:16:38.360 Only 10 minutes.

00:16:39.420 Hit on all the hard stuff.

00:16:43.000 Ran through the playbook of the last 10 years of Justin Trudeau and why Albertans are upset.

00:16:52.400 But she really didn't specifically phrase it in an independence way.

00:16:56.700 She didn't mention it all?

00:16:57.380 She didn't mention independence at all.

00:16:59.320 And I thought she missed a good opportunity there to, because she was being shown live all across Canada.

00:17:05.300 She missed an opportunity there to address the situation.

00:17:10.000 Yeah.

00:17:10.440 I thought it was funny.

00:17:11.480 During her speech, she talked about some of the legislation her government passed around parental rights and pushing back against trans madness. 1.00

00:17:17.740 Like, hey, boys don't get to play against girls in sports anymore.

00:17:20.940 And then the next day, the Conservatives narrowly defeated a policy proposal on parental rights against trans madness. 1.00

00:17:28.900 Yes, because they need a double majority, a slim majority numerically voted for the policy, parental rights against trans madness. 1.00

00:17:36.840 But they need a double majority.

00:17:38.000 They also need a majority of provinces.

00:17:39.440 And so I guess Conservatives in Prince Edward Island really love boys playing against girls in sports or something.

00:17:45.600 I'm picking on Prince Edward Island.

00:17:46.760 I don't know if it was you.

00:17:47.960 I'm just guessing it was you, Prince Edward Island.

00:17:51.880 Here's the camera.

00:17:53.260 Hey, stop moving the camera.

00:17:54.240 Prince Edward Island, where you're a creepy island.

00:17:59.180 I think Jeffrey Epstein, who's on our show here, is actually coming to us from Prince Edward Island.

00:18:04.180 That's where Jeffrey Epstein's moved.

00:18:07.380 Okay.

00:18:08.300 Nobody thinks to look at.

00:18:10.560 No one will suspect it.

00:18:14.000 Actually, what's that?

00:18:15.280 Sable Island or something?

00:18:16.340 It's a part of France right off the coast of Nova Scotia or something.

00:18:19.380 Michelin and St. Pierre.

00:18:22.100 St. Pierre Michelin.

00:18:22.980 Yeah, and there's one called Sable Island.

00:18:25.000 It's like full of horses for some weird reason I don't understand.

00:18:28.280 I don't know.

00:18:28.940 I'd be looking around there for weird temples in Corrie.

00:18:33.980 Okay.

00:18:34.940 Anyway, that was my diversion.

00:18:41.380 Okay, so we touched on a bit.

00:18:43.180 Independence.

00:18:46.060 The place is full of people.

00:18:47.480 It's funny that Alberta conservative, like UCP conventions, are actually bigger than national conservative conventions in Alberta.

00:18:54.100 But they have a limited number of delegates.

00:18:55.840 So it's a different system.

00:18:56.900 Whereas in Alberta, you have a party membership.

00:18:58.600 You register.

00:18:59.120 You go.

00:18:59.680 There's no limit.

00:19:00.240 But I couldn't walk five feet without someone I know or knows me or something from outside Alberta stopping me.

00:19:14.280 Like, what the hell is going on?

00:19:16.800 I'm like, this is supposed to be like a thing you guys just say over beers when you're kind of pissed off, right?

00:19:22.420 You're not supposed to do it.

00:19:24.900 You guys are doing this, really?

00:19:27.180 Yeah.

00:19:27.680 No, this is a real thing.

00:19:29.420 They're going to get the signatures very easily.

00:19:31.480 They're going to smash the threshold almost surely.

00:19:34.600 Um, we're going to have a referendum.

00:19:37.320 Yeah, I'd give them, you know, I generally say, I think we got a one in three shot of success.

00:19:42.940 Uh, you know, the good money is not on a successful independence vote.

00:19:47.620 But there's a real fighting chance of winning, um, you know, support levels, mid thirties.

00:19:53.400 Uh, the Western standard is actually, we're putting a poll on the field, uh, later today on this.

00:19:58.260 It's coming from a similar position of starting where they started in Quebec for the 95 referendum.

00:20:02.280 It's a similar position where they started in the UK for Brexit.

00:20:06.420 Both of those were not supposed to be successful or close.

00:20:09.700 So who knows?

00:20:11.160 Um, but yeah, everyone's talking about it.

00:20:14.280 Uh, BC premier David Eby, I think really took the cake.

00:20:19.280 He said, this is treasonous.

00:20:20.540 These people have committed treason.

00:20:22.100 Uh, not even a vague definition of treason.

00:20:25.380 Uh, this didn't even fit vague definitions of treason.

00:20:29.660 The media focused on the treason line though.

00:20:31.940 But I, I, I thought his other comments immediately, uh, following it were more revealing.

00:20:36.760 He said, uh, they don't want to be in Canada.

00:20:39.500 Okay.

00:20:39.860 I'll grant you.

00:20:40.860 He says, but they don't want to be in Alberta.

00:20:42.840 So Alberta nationalists don't want to be in Alberta and they're not Albertans.

00:20:48.320 I don't know.

00:20:48.880 I, I don't agree with the Quebec, uh, nationalists, but I'm pretty sure they're Quebecers.

00:20:53.040 And I'm pretty sure they want to be in Quebec.

00:20:55.320 They just don't want Quebec in Canada.

00:20:56.720 Uh, you know, the Scottish, Scottish nationalists.

00:20:59.200 I'm pretty sure they're Scots.

00:21:02.000 Actually, some of them are not.

00:21:04.020 Um, that's a different topic.

00:21:06.240 But the bulk of them are Scots.

00:21:08.320 Um, and they want to be in Scotland.

00:21:10.660 It was, it was madness.

00:21:12.460 Uh, uh, Corey, uh, David Eby, uh, I guess, uh, the national media loved it though.

00:21:19.880 Uh, he was their darling.

00:21:21.640 Uh, some of them, you know, you'd have, uh, you get them nodding along.

00:21:24.940 Yes, it is treason.

00:21:26.420 Others saying, well, maybe it's not technically treason, but these guys are treasonous.

00:21:29.460 And David Eby is Captain Canada.

00:21:31.540 Uh, Doug Ford standing up.

00:21:33.460 Danielle Smith needs to just avow these people. 1.00

00:21:35.880 These people are, uh, are anti-Canadian. 0.80

00:21:38.220 They're so bad.

00:21:38.940 Um, does the intervention, uh, oh, uh, Stephen Gilbeau, uh, saying, uh, can you imagine if

00:21:45.880 Quebecer, uh, if, uh, the outrage in Anglo-Canada, if, uh, Quebecer had talked to the French government

00:21:51.000 about independence?

00:21:54.620 For those who are, you know, maybe younger than even me, uh, every independence movement

00:22:03.200 in Quebec has always talked to France.

00:22:05.320 Uh, Charles de Gaulle, the president of France, came to Quebec and famously said,

00:22:10.740 Vive Quebec, Livre, um, Jacques Ferrazo, René Levesque, Lucien Bouchard.

00:22:17.600 All of these guys regularly met with the French government, seeking their recognition in the

00:22:21.440 event of a successful yes vote, et cetera.

00:22:24.860 Uh, so Corey, how helpful is Stephen Gilbeau, Doug Ford, and David Eby to Alberta nationalists

00:22:32.140 right now?

00:22:33.360 Oh, they're, they're brilliant.

00:22:34.320 I, you know, there, there's, you couldn't ask for anything more as an independence advocate

00:22:39.560 than outsiders being unreasonable, labeling you, even people, if it, well, you know, they

00:22:45.480 were thinking about it, you're just considering it, but then you hear that vitriol, that attitude,

00:22:51.140 that dismissiveness, that's pushing people over to the yes side.

00:22:55.180 Keep it up.

00:22:55.760 I mean, they're highlighting, as you pointed out, the double standard.

00:22:59.120 I'm sure there were probably a handful of people called Quebecers traitors when their

00:23:02.580 independence were movements were going, but nothing like what we're seeing today.

00:23:06.320 Like they are, as you, as you said, they're losing their minds.

00:23:09.140 They're coming out of the woodworks. 0.98

00:23:10.540 I think it's also just because a bunch of them are surely realizing, holy crap, this is 0.97

00:23:17.020 real. 0.97

00:23:17.460 This isn't just a handful of, of rednecks, though. 1.00

00:23:21.320 They're trying to dismiss it as such.

00:23:22.920 It's not something that's just going to come and fade away.

00:23:25.240 Like the, the Wexit movement did a few years ago.

00:23:27.640 No, this came in, the APP, the Alberta prosperity project really sort of organized and have maintained

00:23:34.140 the momentum of this thing.

00:23:35.480 And we're actually heading to a referendum and these guys don't know how to respond to

00:23:40.840 it.

00:23:41.380 So as an advocate who wants to see us vote, Hey, please, Doug, please keep telling Albertans

00:23:46.960 what they should think.

00:23:47.700 And please keep pushing our premier around because that's what we want to see as an

00:23:52.360 Ontarian feeling that he should tell our elected leadership what they should do.

00:23:57.120 That's going to help.

00:23:58.160 And Oh, Mr.

00:23:58.740 Eby, by all means, keep blockading our products from the West coast and accusing us of high

00:24:04.460 crimes that they call for executions.

00:24:07.000 Uh, I don't think they understand the consequences of what their reaction and response to this

00:24:12.300 is, but, uh, you know, anybody who wants independence, carry on guys.

00:24:16.680 You, you are not doing a good job for federalism.

00:24:19.560 I'll certainly say that.

00:24:22.020 Uh, I want to pull this, uh, tweet up on the screen here.

00:24:25.540 Uh, this is from Andrew Coyne, columnist with, uh, the Golden Mail.

00:24:29.620 You have a right to leave the country.

00:24:31.380 You don't have a right to take a piece of it with you.

00:24:33.640 You can hold whatever votes you like, but you can't vote to help yourself to something

00:24:37.640 that isn't yours.

00:24:39.080 All the territory of Canada belongs to all of Canada.

00:24:42.040 Canada's future can only be decided by Canadians as a whole, not by groups within it.

00:24:45.720 However, desperate or fanatical, which they are pretty much by definition to think that

00:24:50.720 the only solution to your grievances is real or imagined is to destroy one of the most

00:24:53.800 successful countries that ever existed.

00:24:55.780 Marks you as an extremist.

00:24:56.900 Okay.

00:24:59.140 Andrew Coyne, as we'll see, as you can see from his tweet, has, uh, the, uh, the pictures

00:25:05.680 or some emojis of certain flags in his bio.

00:25:10.580 Ukraine, Israel, Georgia, and I'm not a hundred percent positive on the last one.

00:25:16.720 It might be Moldova.

00:25:17.860 Or is it Romania?

00:25:19.300 It's like Romania. 0.60

00:25:20.220 It might be Romania.

00:25:21.040 Yeah, or something.

00:25:21.500 Okay.

00:25:23.780 Two of those flags represent countries that's separated from another country.

00:25:30.800 Uh, Ukraine was a part of the Russian empire since, uh, I don't know, Catherine the Great.

00:25:37.460 A millennia, I think it was, a thousand years almost.

00:25:39.260 Well, it depends how you're defining it.

00:25:40.600 Uh, if you go by Kievan Russe as the nucleus over it.

00:25:42.640 I think that was what it was.

00:25:43.460 It's about a thousand years.

00:25:44.260 If you're going with Kievan, Kievan Russe state as the beginning, uh, having a bit of a

00:25:49.520 history lesson here.

00:25:50.120 If you're saying the Cuban Russe is kind of the beginning of Russia, or actually Russia

00:25:53.600 is started in Ukraine, um, you know, Kiev, uh, if you're going from, you know, the Russian

00:26:01.100 empire, the czars, well, then that maybe goes kind of when it was reconquered from the Turks

00:26:06.320 by, uh, Catherine the Great, if I'm getting that right.

00:26:09.300 And it's separated from the Soviet Union.

00:26:11.480 People say, well, Soviet Union doesn't exist anymore.

00:26:13.180 Yes, because everyone's separated from the Soviet Union.

00:26:15.680 Um, Georgia separated from the Soviet Union.

00:26:20.860 And also, and Ukraine is culturally very similar to Russia.

00:26:24.460 It's different, but it's culturally very similar, uh, particularly in the eastern side of the

00:26:29.100 country, uh, and parts of the west near Odessa.

00:26:31.840 Uh, Romania.

00:26:33.840 Okay.

00:26:34.320 Uh, didn't separate, but it was carved up from other kingdoms, other empires.

00:26:38.680 Half of it came from the Austro-Hungarian empire, uh, and Israel, partitioned out of the British

00:26:47.120 empires, Palestinian mandate.

00:26:49.300 Not a single one of these countries just always existed on its own.

00:26:54.140 They separated in one form or another to form their modern states.

00:26:58.580 End of rant.

00:27:03.360 I'm just going to put it to you. 1.00

00:27:04.300 How stupid are these people? 1.00

00:27:07.220 You can, you can say Alberta independence is a bad idea, but just say every state is, 1.00

00:27:12.800 uh, you know, there for all time.

00:27:16.260 Uh, new states emerging from old states is illegitimate and cannot happen.

00:27:21.520 Fine.

00:27:22.040 But the only way to do that is brute military force and Ukraine would have left Russia or

00:27:27.380 the Soviet Union a lot earlier if it hadn't been brute military force.

00:27:32.360 Ukraine, I think had only been nominally independent for like a few months after Russia's

00:27:37.740 surrender, uh, during the first world war before the Soviet Union reconquered it.

00:27:42.040 So it was kind of quasi independent for like a few months.

00:27:47.200 It had never been an independent country in its history until the fall of the Soviet Union.

00:27:50.960 I'm glad it's independent.

00:27:52.080 It's a good thing.

00:27:53.620 But I mean, you know, there's an easy way for you to lower your blood pressure and let's

00:28:00.860 just block Andrew Klein.

00:28:02.500 No, no, I love it. 1.00

00:28:04.160 I love this shit. 1.00

00:28:05.300 But you put those flags in your bio and then you have the nerve to say no one's ever allowed 1.00

00:28:12.340 to leave your country.

00:28:13.300 Is Canada the only country you're not allowed to leave?

00:28:16.620 America itself left another country.

00:28:19.040 Uh, arguably Canada left Britain.

00:28:22.380 You know, uh, the statute of Westminster.

00:28:25.320 So anyway, uh, someone else take up the rant from there.

00:28:29.400 I have no question to put to anyone. 0.98

00:28:31.000 I just had to point out how dumb this is from smart people. 0.99

00:28:35.820 Andrew Klein's not a stupid person. 1.00

00:28:37.680 He's a very smart guy, but God, God, they say some dumb shit. 1.00

00:28:41.220 It was, it was interesting just to see the reaction of the national media after, uh, after 1.00

00:28:47.780 EB's comment.

00:28:48.440 I mean, let's face it.

00:28:49.120 I mean, EB's run British Columbia into the ground. 0.89

00:28:51.320 Uh, but the, the, the national media picked it up, picked up on it and ran for it.

00:28:56.760 And it for throughout the entire weekend, uh, independence issues, uh, led, uh, CBC, C, uh, CTV global all throughout the, uh, uh, Tory leadership campaign.

00:29:08.800 Uh, the, certainly the chatter in the media room amongst all the out of town journalists was, was Alberta independence.

00:29:16.600 So, but I think this was the weekend they finally realized, Hey, something's up.

00:29:20.500 Yeah.

00:29:20.920 Something's up in Alberta and we better start keeping an eye on it.

00:29:24.120 Uh, so that's not a bad thing.

00:29:26.860 We'll, uh, we'll see how the national media covers.

00:29:29.260 So much for a fringe minority.

00:29:31.260 Fringe minority that out anymore.

00:29:32.960 I'm talking about, yeah, I did find out like all the out of town reporters.

00:29:36.320 They're like, like, they're trying to get a sense.

00:29:39.880 Cause like, they're not sure.

00:29:41.300 Should they cover this?

00:29:42.080 Like, is this a nothing burger French thing?

00:29:44.480 And they're all of a sudden they're all like, how serious is this?

00:29:48.300 I'm like, it's look for everyone with an Alberta badge here.

00:29:53.380 Get a couple of beers in them and ask them how they're voting.

00:29:56.000 Yeah.

00:29:57.160 Sometimes it doesn't even take any beer.

00:29:58.940 No.

00:29:59.160 Yeah.

00:30:00.020 Yeah.

00:30:01.720 Well, I get a couple of beers in them and they'll tell you, you know, let's start shooting pistols in the air about it.

00:30:05.600 You know what?

00:30:06.800 Uh, yeah.

00:30:08.560 Anyway, it's very much here.

00:30:09.540 It says a lot.

00:30:10.380 Though about people like Coyne, as you said, he's smart. 0.95

00:30:13.140 He's always been a pompous sort of windbag, but he's not a fool. 0.95

00:30:17.200 And they're caught flat footed. 0.98

00:30:18.980 They don't know how to respond to this.

00:30:20.680 They're, they're responding emotionally and without thought.

00:30:24.100 I'm just wondering if this is going to evolve.

00:30:26.100 I noticed Andrew Leach, who is hardly a conservative independence type supporter, even gently corrected somebody on that treason thing saying no and showed the law.

00:30:35.200 Like whatever you may think, you know, it's, it's, it's in poor taste or whatever, visiting other countries like that.

00:30:40.820 But it's not treason by definition, legally or, or, or otherwise.

00:30:44.800 But these, uh, pundits, they really, I think all their lives just never took Alberta seriously.

00:30:52.360 Never thought there would ever be a serious movement of those, you know, the, the colonies out there in Alberta to want to break away.

00:30:59.620 And now that they see it's real, it's really got them gobsmacked and they just, their better reaction would have been to do nothing and think about it for a little while first.

00:31:08.160 But thanks to the beauty of X, guys like Coyne can just spit their thoughts out as soon as they pop into their head.

00:31:13.500 And it's not doing Andrew any favors, but it's certainly again doing the independence movement wonders.

00:31:19.300 Coyne's never spit thoughts out onto Twitter as soon as it comes into it, is it all?

00:31:22.780 I'm just, I'm just worried.

00:31:24.360 I'll be honest because Derek's really wound up now and we haven't even got to Epstein.

00:31:28.500 That's true.

00:31:28.980 Oh, actually.

00:31:29.820 Holy cow. 0.89

00:31:30.980 Buckle up, everybody.

00:31:32.220 I was just looking at my show notes. 0.99

00:31:33.440 I was like, oh shit. 0.99

00:31:35.760 We're just getting started. 1.00

00:31:37.220 Okay.

00:31:37.520 Epstein.

00:31:38.880 Put them all in the woodchipper.

00:31:40.620 I was, you can, there's so many rabbit holes to go down and so many of them lead to real things.

00:31:48.980 Some of them are going to lead to some crazy stuff.

00:31:51.280 Uh, it's understandable.

00:31:53.520 So there's stuff like Bale, you know, the kind of a demon god from Mesopotamia.

00:31:59.260 Bale, Bale, depends how you pronounce them.

00:32:00.880 Uh, that actually was like a weird copy error that actually was supposed to say bank number.

00:32:05.060 So I don't think that's actually one.

00:32:07.300 Yeah.

00:32:07.440 There's a lot of misinformation.

00:32:08.640 Yeah.

00:32:08.920 Well, that one I can at least understand because there was a, that's like a scanning issue.

00:32:12.140 The original document does not show that, but that is what was released.

00:32:14.980 So I kind of get why people went down that rabbit hole.

00:32:17.740 But guys, there are so many real rabbit holes here.

00:32:22.980 There's just nowhere to begin. 1.00

00:32:26.000 My general thought though is like, we are governed by a bunch of evil pedophiles. 0.99

00:32:33.440 Like, it's true. 0.91

00:32:36.400 I, okay, uh, here, I'll switch to this camera for a second. 0.72

00:32:40.120 To a lot of you, I owe you an apology for dismissing you as crazy conspiracy theorists.

00:32:46.900 Uh, my time from the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.

00:32:51.480 My time in politics.

00:32:53.000 Six years of the Western Standard. 0.92

00:32:55.040 A lot of you, I've called batshit crazy. 0.96

00:32:57.700 And some of you are. 1.00

00:32:58.660 Some of you are definitely batshit crazy. 1.00

00:33:01.520 But a lot of you just came across as crazy. 1.00

00:33:04.300 Because what you were saying was crazy. 0.54

00:33:06.100 But it's true!

00:33:07.240 It's freaking real!

00:33:10.960 It's freaking real!

00:33:13.020 It was way more evil, it was way more maniacal than I could have possibly thought.

00:33:17.120 And I am a pretty cynical guy.

00:33:19.900 Much of the time, at least.

00:33:21.740 Um, like, I kind of half-jokingly thought,

00:33:26.360 we need like a great terror, like the French Revolution, 0.95

00:33:28.700 where just like, the royals and aristocrats, 0.99

00:33:31.080 we chop all their heads off. 1.00

00:33:33.580 But, you know, because they're pedophiles, 1.00

00:33:35.380 the woodchipper's more appropriate. 0.84

00:33:36.400 So instead of guillotines in the public square,

00:33:38.120 we just throw them all into woodchippers.

00:33:40.620 Um, I'm joking.

00:33:43.420 But I'm not sure how, what the hell do we do?

00:33:46.660 Like the whole governing elite of America.

00:33:49.960 Uh, notably, we're not cool enough,

00:33:52.940 we're all kind of the Elon Musk in Canada,

00:33:54.660 we're cool enough to be invited to Epstein Island.

00:33:56.820 There was only a few guys mentioned.

00:33:59.340 Uh, there was very little Canadians actually found.

00:34:02.260 Yeah, no Trudeau, was there?

00:34:05.100 Yeah, yeah.

00:34:06.400 Oh, I was going to say something, but I'll get sued.

00:34:08.380 Uh, but, but he's been a teacher.

00:34:11.500 So, oh, uh, I'm not.

00:34:13.620 Why don't we talk about some of the stuff,

00:34:17.460 the stories that we've written.

00:34:18.820 Yeah.

00:34:19.300 We've got repeated mentions of Calgary and Edmonton.

00:34:23.720 Uh, when, uh, uh, Epstein asks the guy,

00:34:28.280 where are you?

00:34:29.000 Oh, I'm in Calgary.

00:34:29.840 Is it fun?

00:34:30.540 No, definitely not.

00:34:32.060 Uh, there's, uh.

00:34:33.300 That's the worst thing Epstein's done.

00:34:35.620 It's like Calgary.

00:34:36.440 It's like Calgary.

00:34:37.040 We're not fun at all.

00:34:38.260 And in all seriousness,

00:34:39.900 it's likely to cost British Prime Minister Keir Starmer his job.

00:34:43.980 This is all over a guy called Peter Mandelson,

00:34:46.260 who is a good friend of Epstein,

00:34:47.920 who Epstein gave $75,000 to while Mandelson was a Labour government MP.

00:34:55.200 Now the question is,

00:34:56.480 did he,

00:34:57.260 not even an MP,

00:34:58.760 also,

00:34:59.120 also a cabinet minister?

00:35:00.220 The question now under police investigation in England is,

00:35:04.060 did Mandelson give Epstein secret economic insights?

00:35:10.480 So,

00:35:10.680 Starmer then appoints him U.S. Ambassador,

00:35:15.100 knowing full well his connection to Epstein.

00:35:18.340 Andy Starmer had to admit that today in the,

00:35:20.920 in the British House of Commons.

00:35:22.280 He is under immense pressure to resign.

00:35:25.740 Uh,

00:35:26.100 another story today,

00:35:27.440 uh,

00:35:28.340 they found evidence from a,

00:35:30.400 uh,

00:35:30.920 stripper in,

00:35:31.700 uh,

00:35:32.480 uh,

00:35:32.740 Rachel strip club in,

00:35:34.040 Florida Palm beach,

00:35:35.000 Palm beach,

00:35:35.520 Florida.

00:35:35.720 It looks like a really nice establishment.

00:35:37.200 It's got a steak steakhouse next to it.

00:35:39.480 So we have to look at,

00:35:40.600 look up this stuff,

00:35:41.420 you know,

00:35:41.660 as part of the research.

00:35:42.740 Oh,

00:35:42.880 but we,

00:35:43.140 I said a reporter.

00:35:44.320 We could,

00:35:45.200 we could,

00:35:45.980 but this,

00:35:46.540 uh,

00:35:46.680 this triple,

00:35:47.360 this stripper from,

00:35:48.300 uh,

00:35:48.580 Rachel's,

00:35:49.340 uh,

00:35:50.180 uh,

00:35:50.740 strip show,

00:35:51.380 uh,

00:35:52.240 was hired by Epstein to go to a party in his house in Palm beach.

00:35:55.640 She said she,

00:35:56.760 she for $10,000,

00:35:58.460 she did a dance with him and Prince Andrew,

00:36:01.720 and then had a threesome with Prince Andrew and,

00:36:04.320 uh,

00:36:05.020 uh,

00:36:06.180 uh,

00:36:06.640 Epstein.

00:36:07.480 So,

00:36:08.060 uh,

00:36:08.160 Prince Andrew's paid a big cost.

00:36:09.680 He's no longer Prince Andrew.

00:36:10.840 He's Andrew Mountbatten,

00:36:12.640 Windsor,

00:36:13.000 and he's been kicked out of his castle house.

00:36:15.200 And he's living in a farm lodge now in,

00:36:17.440 uh,

00:36:17.620 in Sandringham.

00:36:18.860 So he and Starmer are going to face huge consequences.

00:36:23.140 What chipper,

00:36:23.880 what chipper,

00:36:24.520 we found a very disturbing note from a renowned biologist to Epstein talking about,

00:36:29.900 uh,

00:36:30.680 uh,

00:36:31.160 child castration and turning,

00:36:33.780 uh,

00:36:34.240 young boys into quote feminine men as young as three,

00:36:37.820 as young as three.

00:36:38.900 I mean,

00:36:39.820 you're,

00:36:40.460 you're very,

00:36:41.200 you're quite right.

00:36:42.060 New York.

00:36:42.240 This stuff is just,

00:36:43.360 just very,

00:36:45.140 very dark and there's no end to it.

00:36:47.340 I mean,

00:36:47.600 you could be a reporter and spend the next year,

00:36:49.580 uh,

00:36:50.220 coming up with it.

00:36:51.020 What is not in doubt anymore is Epstein's,

00:36:54.280 uh,

00:36:54.960 influence with,

00:36:56.080 uh,

00:36:57.060 a high level of governments across the world.

00:37:00.440 He's claimed,

00:37:01.440 he's assumed to be a Mossad agent.

00:37:04.060 He's also apparently a KGB agent.

00:37:06.820 That one is almost certainly misinformation.

00:37:11.040 Throw us off the trail.

00:37:12.000 I don't think anyone's actually believing that one.

00:37:13.860 That's,

00:37:14.120 that's what they're trying to,

00:37:15.380 that's the kind of shiny thing they're throwing over here now to get us off.

00:37:18.580 Yeah.

00:37:20.380 It looks like Trump's going to bomb the hell out of their aunt to try and get people distracted.

00:37:24.480 Uh,

00:37:24.840 but,

00:37:25.220 uh,

00:37:25.720 you know,

00:37:26.140 uh,

00:37:26.400 Jackson behind us,

00:37:27.560 he will not get distracted.

00:37:28.680 He will be continuing going down the rabbit holes.

00:37:31.400 There he is.

00:37:31.880 Right.

00:37:32.440 Right.

00:37:32.620 Oh,

00:37:33.180 you just blocked him.

00:37:34.020 Yeah.

00:37:34.260 There we go.

00:37:34.600 There he is.

00:37:35.060 There he is.

00:37:35.640 Oh,

00:37:36.140 oh,

00:37:36.360 he's not eating noodles.

00:37:39.100 Um,

00:37:40.020 yeah.

00:37:41.560 Yeah.

00:37:42.280 Uh, 1.00

00:37:43.820 fuck. 1.00

00:37:46.220 Oh, 1.00

00:37:46.400 let's go to Jeffrey Epstein.

00:37:47.560 Uh,

00:37:48.620 what do you,

00:37:49.000 what do you have to say for yourself?

00:37:51.820 I'm just,

00:37:52.520 uh,

00:37:53.060 floored with,

00:37:54.120 uh,

00:37:54.240 how much of the,

00:37:54.860 the records of,

00:37:55.800 uh,

00:37:56.000 my doings and,

00:37:57.180 uh,

00:37:57.720 prolific they are.

00:37:59.360 Uh,

00:37:59.720 you know,

00:38:00.000 yes,

00:38:00.320 aside from the joking,

00:38:01.520 it's like,

00:38:01.840 seriously,

00:38:02.340 the amount of data,

00:38:04.140 uh,

00:38:04.780 it's such a dump and,

00:38:05.860 and how.

00:38:07.700 It's only half.

00:38:08.700 This is only half.

00:38:09.460 Yeah.

00:38:10.300 Oh yeah.

00:38:10.940 The hell integrated.

00:38:11.500 This guy was with people in power.

00:38:14.380 I mean,

00:38:14.540 it wasn't a conspiracy.

00:38:15.820 I think not everybody he associated with necessarily did misdeeds,

00:38:19.760 but boy,

00:38:20.100 you just don't want to be on any list.

00:38:21.940 This guy had anything to do with.

00:38:23.460 And it seems as if he crossed paths with every powerful business and political leader in the world multiple times.

00:38:30.860 Uh,

00:38:31.060 Dave was mentioning Mandelson and the,

00:38:33.160 the,

00:38:33.380 the stuff in it.

00:38:34.040 I mean,

00:38:34.200 he was mentioned in the files,

00:38:36.000 what?

00:38:36.160 5,600 times.

00:38:38.300 That's just one guy,

00:38:39.840 one association.

00:38:41.500 I mean,

00:38:42.440 the,

00:38:42.660 the documentation of all of this too,

00:38:45.460 which again,

00:38:46.060 leds credibility to maybe he was working for another interest to hold leverage over a lot of powerful people.

00:38:53.280 And we're,

00:38:54.100 and I'm like you,

00:38:55.620 Derek,

00:38:55.820 I kind of dismiss the conspiracy theorists,

00:38:58.280 but this isn't a conspiracy anymore.

00:39:00.580 It's right there.

00:39:01.340 And it's clear.

00:39:01.980 We're just seeing the tip of the iceberg.

00:39:04.480 I'm afraid we're going to be talking about this again.

00:39:07.260 Well,

00:39:07.720 and the thing is it,

00:39:08.860 it seems to confirm a variety of otherwise more or less un,

00:39:14.680 unconfirmed conspiracy theories.

00:39:16.340 Like the whole pizza gate thing.

00:39:17.820 I always thought was totally not,

00:39:20.160 but I do.

00:39:20.840 I have to admit,

00:39:21.600 like,

00:39:21.860 I'm not very attracted to conspiracy theories.

00:39:25.120 You know,

00:39:25.380 it,

00:39:25.880 the kind of person who is attracted to them is often just kind of weird.

00:39:28.960 And I'm just like,

00:39:29.360 eh,

00:39:30.020 but like,

00:39:31.340 there's a lot of talk about pizza and grape,

00:39:35.420 uh,

00:39:36.460 grape juice or something and ice cream and,

00:39:38.280 uh,

00:39:39.300 and certain kinds of cheeses.

00:39:40.560 And they're clearly not talking about pizza and grape and ice cream.

00:39:44.080 Like they're,

00:39:44.380 they're very clearly talking in code.

00:39:46.420 So like,

00:39:47.540 you know,

00:39:47.740 I'm not going to endorse the pizza gate thing.

00:39:49.720 Cause I'm sure a bunch of it's crazy as,

00:39:51.860 you know,

00:39:52.300 any kind of group chat,

00:39:54.460 everyone's following their things.

00:39:55.820 There's going to be crazy people,

00:39:57.120 but some of the broad outlines would,

00:39:59.300 clearly some people use pizza as a code for something at a minimum.

00:40:04.300 That's a thing.

00:40:05.740 Um,

00:40:06.140 and,

00:40:07.380 and we only have half the dump.

00:40:10.420 There's enough.

00:40:11.160 So we've got 3 million documents.

00:40:12.420 There's another 3 million to come.

00:40:13.800 And they're still being reviewed by the FBI,

00:40:16.620 uh,

00:40:18.040 for appropriate,

00:40:19.000 you know,

00:40:19.100 what's appropriate to redact or not,

00:40:20.340 which means probably,

00:40:22.740 in all probability,

00:40:23.540 the second half is way more explosive than the first half.

00:40:28.240 And there's been stuff with redactions where simple,

00:40:32.740 logical searches have been able to figure out more or less who some people are.

00:40:37.420 There was one email,

00:40:38.260 uh,

00:40:38.980 from someone,

00:40:39.960 the sender was redacted and says,

00:40:41.740 Hey,

00:40:42.240 uh,

00:40:43.100 enjoyed,

00:40:43.540 enjoyed the torture video or something.

00:40:45.280 Yeah.

00:40:45.900 Um,

00:40:47.040 uh,

00:40:48.500 yeah.

00:40:48.700 And then it's like,

00:40:49.340 uh,

00:40:49.740 Epstein's like,

00:40:50.220 you know,

00:40:50.360 when,

00:40:50.520 when are you going to be here?

00:40:51.320 I'm in China right now,

00:40:53.400 but I'll be in Washington or New York or something,

00:40:55.740 uh,

00:40:55.940 Washington,

00:40:56.440 uh,

00:40:56.760 in two weeks.

00:40:58.560 It turns out at that exact time that's being written,

00:41:02.100 Benjamin Netanyahu was in China.

00:41:04.440 And two weeks later,

00:41:05.700 he was in Washington.

00:41:07.840 That's not conclusively him,

00:41:10.200 uh,

00:41:11.300 but it was him.

00:41:12.140 It was him.

00:41:13.000 So,

00:41:13.700 so sometimes these things are redacted,

00:41:15.280 but the internet is just nuclear right now.

00:41:19.220 People are,

00:41:19.780 and the power of AI be like,

00:41:21.180 okay,

00:41:21.480 search this,

00:41:21.980 search this.

00:41:22.300 And you could tie all these things together in a way that would normally take maybe weeks to figure that out.

00:41:26.440 Like,

00:41:26.580 you know,

00:41:26.680 if this was 20 years ago,

00:41:27.940 it'd take you at least a week to get travel logs,

00:41:30.740 pull up newspaper clippings from China and Washington.

00:41:33.360 That'd be a huge drop.

00:41:34.180 You could do it in 20 seconds now.

00:41:36.300 Um,

00:41:37.660 well,

00:41:37.820 let's just remember Donald Trump and certain influencers in American politics saying there are no Epstein files.

00:41:44.300 Yeah.

00:41:44.840 This is a nothing burger.

00:41:45.980 There's nothing here.

00:41:47.560 And I'm going to hurt the feelings of some of our Trump lovers on the show,

00:41:50.480 but I'm sorry.

00:41:53.580 He lied.

00:41:54.740 Like,

00:41:55.040 so obviously lied.

00:41:56.580 He,

00:41:56.740 he,

00:41:56.880 he,

00:41:57.440 he don't protested way too much.

00:41:59.520 You know,

00:41:59.980 everyone who wants to see this is,

00:42:01.580 uh,

00:42:02.000 it's against me.

00:42:02.780 You're all working for the Democrats.

00:42:04.520 Uh,

00:42:05.120 you're a left wing.

00:42:05.860 No,

00:42:06.640 you promised to release this.

00:42:08.240 We're going to release this.

00:42:09.460 It's on Pam Bondi's desk.

00:42:10.820 It's going to come out anytime now.

00:42:12.140 Oh,

00:42:12.320 what do you mean?

00:42:12.720 There are no files.

00:42:13.940 And then now this has been a fight that people like Marjorie Taylor Greene, 1.00

00:42:18.680 Thomas Massey have pursued doggedly,

00:42:21.320 pretty much toasted their political careers to achieve.

00:42:23.840 But they have now done,

00:42:25.920 I was talking to someone yesterday who has always talked so dismissively of Marjorie Taylor Greene.

00:42:30.860 I have to admit,

00:42:31.280 I kind of had to for a long time.

00:42:33.240 Ah, 0.99

00:42:33.380 she's nuts and blah, 1.00

00:42:34.460 blah, 1.00

00:42:34.560 blah,

00:42:34.700 blah,

00:42:34.840 blah.

00:42:36.440 But she has done such a service to the world and the American public.

00:42:39.980 But her political career is apparently over because of this.

00:42:44.600 Um,

00:42:45.240 everybody's lied.

00:42:47.620 Yeah.

00:42:47.800 I find it funny that Derek says he's not a conspiracy.

00:42:50.320 I know.

00:42:51.080 I am.

00:42:51.600 Now I am.

00:42:52.660 No,

00:42:52.840 you remember as every single new hire for the Western standard has to go through the history of Waco.

00:43:01.140 Before they're allowed,

00:43:02.380 before they're allowed to sit at their desk because Derek is so conspiracy minded about that.

00:43:07.080 But two,

00:43:07.880 two interesting news things today.

00:43:10.840 Uh,

00:43:11.280 Bill Gates in Australia,

00:43:12.520 uh,

00:43:13.740 uh,

00:43:14.020 it was interviewed down there by Australian media and he apologized.

00:43:17.540 He said he was,

00:43:18.400 he felt foolish for his, 0.81

00:43:19.860 his, 0.73

00:43:20.560 uh,

00:43:21.380 friendship with,

00:43:22.160 uh,

00:43:22.400 Jeffrey Epstein says he never went to the Island,

00:43:24.840 just went for dinner.

00:43:26.040 And he says,

00:43:26.320 no emails about him getting the STDs from a restaurant.

00:43:29.900 He says,

00:43:30.140 he must have written that to himself.

00:43:31.660 Ah,

00:43:32.660 yeah.

00:43:33.160 But I mean,

00:43:33.600 there was,

00:43:34.260 it was enough that that ended their marriage.

00:43:36.460 His wife,

00:43:37.220 his ex-wife,

00:43:37.960 uh,

00:43:38.540 I think it was Melinda,

00:43:39.380 uh,

00:43:40.000 was,

00:43:40.360 was good,

00:43:40.740 has been giving some interviews saying his relationship with Epstein killed the marriage.

00:43:44.960 And I hadn't seen that one.

00:43:46.720 End of the month,

00:43:47.700 Mr.

00:43:48.060 And Mrs.

00:43:48.920 Clinton testifying on the Epstein files in Washington,

00:43:55.000 D.C.

00:43:55.840 That is going to be,

00:43:56.700 what do you wonder on if they make it their life?

00:43:58.480 That's going to be,

00:43:59.300 must see TV.

00:44:00.980 And I don't see them suiciding themselves.

00:44:04.860 Probably not.

00:44:05.680 I wouldn't think.

00:44:06.600 You never know.

00:44:08.200 Accidents happen.

00:44:09.120 Even odds on that one.

00:44:09.940 Maybe.

00:44:10.140 I don't know.

00:44:10.780 Let's see over.

00:44:13.200 Where were they going?

00:44:15.220 What?

00:44:16.320 Oh,

00:44:16.740 nothing.

00:44:17.080 Just scheduling myself.

00:44:18.920 Okay.

00:44:19.900 Yeah.

00:44:20.500 Uh,

00:44:21.380 God,

00:44:21.700 that's going to be good.

00:44:22.900 That's going to be good.

00:44:24.240 Oh,

00:44:24.500 you know what?

00:44:24.860 But you know,

00:44:25.420 they're trained.

00:44:26.100 They might just literally plead the fifth to everything.

00:44:28.000 Like probably would.

00:44:28.520 What do you do?

00:44:29.760 Like everything is just pure radiation from this.

00:44:36.020 Like you don't degrees of separation.

00:44:41.520 You're still getting burned,

00:44:42.320 but none of these people are going to jail to this day.

00:44:45.260 Only one person has done time for these men abusing these girls. 0.78

00:44:50.620 And that was a woman to like Gillie Maxwell. 0.98

00:44:53.000 Not a single man has done time,

00:44:55.860 let alone gone into the wood chipper for this.

00:44:58.320 I'm,

00:44:58.640 and I'm doubtful anyone will.

00:45:00.740 There's a great editorial cartoon I saw today.

00:45:03.440 And I don't know where it was from,

00:45:04.740 but it was a cartoon of six young girls,

00:45:08.100 you know,

00:45:08.440 between eight,

00:45:09.200 nine,

00:45:09.500 10,

00:45:10.220 uh,

00:45:10.480 five of them all lined up.

00:45:11.840 You can see their faces.

00:45:12.820 You can see all their,

00:45:14.120 uh,

00:45:14.320 you know,

00:45:14.660 their hair and face.

00:45:16.380 And in the background,

00:45:17.660 five male black shadows.

00:45:20.360 And I thought that,

00:45:21.480 uh,

00:45:21.780 I just summed it up.

00:45:22.660 Cause you're right.

00:45:23.140 No,

00:45:23.320 no males are going to get punished.

00:45:25.220 And still,

00:45:25.960 and only one woman.

00:45:27.480 And it's mostly men,

00:45:28.740 uh,

00:45:29.160 guilty here,

00:45:29.640 but you know,

00:45:30.100 fair number of women, 1.00

00:45:30.920 but no one,

00:45:32.440 Gillie Maxwell is the only person for whom any justice has been done.

00:45:36.320 And the only reason not to execute them is simply to,

00:45:39.640 uh,

00:45:40.200 extract information from them.

00:45:42.600 Uh,

00:45:43.000 you know,

00:45:43.340 so fine.

00:45:43.800 We should make deals to not throw them in the wood chipper.

00:45:45.740 If we can get information to lead to more convictions of other people.

00:45:49.180 But there seems to be no interest in doing that.

00:45:51.880 Like why,

00:45:52.640 what,

00:45:53.120 why is the DOJ not like tripled in size just purely to prosecute this stuff?

00:45:59.640 Like it's so obvious what's happened here,

00:46:02.660 but Prince Andrew,

00:46:04.000 why is he not gone through the wood chipper?

00:46:07.280 Fine.

00:46:08.120 He,

00:46:08.400 he,

00:46:08.580 he,

00:46:08.760 he can do life in prison.

00:46:10.640 If he spills the beans,

00:46:11.980 none of it,

00:46:13.480 none of it.

00:46:14.500 I'm just so confused.

00:46:15.640 How did Epstein keep track of everything?

00:46:17.360 And he seemed to be just like everywhere.

00:46:19.220 And it's not even just politicians and Hollywood,

00:46:21.160 but people in academia,

00:46:22.500 like Harvard professors.

00:46:23.620 And that,

00:46:23.980 I just saw before we came on here,

00:46:25.660 there was a,

00:46:26.140 um,

00:46:26.500 an email,

00:46:27.120 I think from some Harvard professor to Maxwell.

00:46:29.740 And he was talking about a party that they were at.

00:46:31.780 And he just said,

00:46:32.520 thank God I didn't kill anybody.

00:46:33.720 And it's like,

00:46:34.100 what's that supposed to mean?

00:46:35.540 Like,

00:46:35.700 what are these Harvard,

00:46:36.320 like,

00:46:36.440 why would they be in touch with Harvard professors and that it's the weirdest thing?

00:46:39.500 It's like everywhere.

00:46:40.680 And where did he have time to abuse all these girls?

00:46:42.860 You know what I mean?

00:46:44.380 Like,

00:46:45.540 okay.

00:46:48.840 That is our weak attempt to talk about the Epstein files in like 15 minutes.

00:46:55.040 And who isn't on there though,

00:46:56.260 Derek?

00:46:56.760 Mel Gibson.

00:46:58.720 Or Charlie Sheen,

00:47:00.000 surprisingly.

00:47:00.480 Or Vladimir Putin,

00:47:01.300 I don't think apparently wasn't on there.

00:47:02.960 Yeah.

00:47:03.180 I love that,

00:47:03.700 the meme going around.

00:47:04.780 Uh,

00:47:04.960 it's like a picture of Charlie Sheen and he's got like cigarettes in his mouth,

00:47:07.760 his nose,

00:47:08.220 his ears.

00:47:08.600 It says,

00:47:09.120 surprisingly,

00:47:09.920 this guy is not on the list.

00:47:12.340 Mel Gibson,

00:47:13.180 less surprise.

00:47:14.560 It's not on the list.

00:47:15.640 Uh,

00:47:15.720 that's why I got blacklisted from Hollywood for a bit.

00:47:18.500 Yeah.

00:47:18.920 Well,

00:47:19.320 that in his,

00:47:20.080 uh,

00:47:20.400 recorded,

00:47:21.140 oh,

00:47:21.360 there's he Semitism videos.

00:47:23.240 Yeah.

00:47:23.380 I don't think that went down too well with Epstein.

00:47:25.040 No.

00:47:26.580 Yeah.

00:47:27.960 Yeah.

00:47:29.080 Okay.

00:47:30.080 Well,

00:47:31.540 sticking a fork in it there is,

00:47:33.760 uh,

00:47:34.900 it just feels criminal,

00:47:36.020 but,

00:47:36.720 uh,

00:47:36.880 we have to,

00:47:37.440 we're out of time.

00:47:38.240 Uh,

00:47:38.480 all right.

00:47:39.440 Uh,

00:47:39.760 parting shots.

00:47:40.420 Start with Corey.

00:47:41.560 Sorry,

00:47:41.880 Mr.

00:47:42.120 Epstein.

00:47:43.360 I'll just go quick.

00:47:44.540 Uh,

00:47:45.220 I see the announcements.

00:47:46.280 Uh,

00:47:46.460 Carney's going to get rid of the EV mandate,

00:47:48.480 get rid of the Islamophobia czar,

00:47:50.080 get rid of the anti-Semitism czar,

00:47:52.420 but don't celebrate guys because every one of those stories also has the next caveat saying,

00:47:56.820 but it's going to be replaced by this.

00:47:58.240 And it's going to be replaced by that.

00:48:00.240 He didn't need a second sentence.

00:48:01.480 You just get rid of them.

00:48:02.460 So nothing's changing.

00:48:03.840 He's slapping a new coat of paint on stuff.

00:48:05.820 It's the same old liberal bureaucracy.

00:48:09.220 Dave.

00:48:10.400 It's a Harper Looza week in Ottawa this week,

00:48:13.780 uh,

00:48:14.200 celebrating the 20th anniversary of Stephen Harper becoming prime minister.

00:48:18.760 Uh,

00:48:19.280 there was an unveiling of what I thought was a absolutely excellent portrait of him.

00:48:23.720 Uh,

00:48:24.120 and he gave an eloquent speech.

00:48:25.920 He was funny.

00:48:27.280 Uh,

00:48:28.440 just,

00:48:29.080 just a great speech.

00:48:30.120 And as I'm watching it,

00:48:31.380 all I can think of is how did he lose to that mop haired Muppet Trudeau?

00:48:37.500 Can't get over that. 0.57

00:48:40.160 Good question.

00:48:41.980 Mr.

00:48:42.520 Feichnick.

00:48:43.340 Oh,

00:48:43.860 I don't really have one.

00:48:44.800 I'll just say check out my new column on the Western standard website about the

00:48:48.140 conservative convention and conservatism in Canada and journal.

00:48:51.100 What do conservatives conserve?

00:48:52.840 Apparently nothing but liberalism.

00:48:55.740 All right.

00:48:56.980 Uh,

00:48:57.540 and I'm just,

00:48:59.060 uh,

00:48:59.720 Oh,

00:49:00.440 uh,

00:49:01.140 are we at a time for the,

00:49:02.360 uh,

00:49:03.280 that's we have on the board about who Trump attacks next?

00:49:05.480 Are we at a time or is there still more time?

00:49:07.440 Still more time in the bet?

00:49:08.740 Yeah.

00:49:08.900 I thought it was like,

00:49:09.680 it went on forever.

00:49:10.600 Yeah.

00:49:10.780 Until he actually goes on.

00:49:11.620 Although there's a,

00:49:12.380 there's a time limit.

00:49:13.280 You will event America will eventually attack every single one of those countries.

00:49:16.560 I wouldn't think about there's a time limit on it.

00:49:18.420 It's like,

00:49:18.640 will he attack them by this time?

00:49:20.340 Um,

00:49:21.040 but yeah,

00:49:21.500 I,

00:49:21.820 it's,

00:49:22.380 it's looking like they're going to attack Iran again.

00:49:25.940 I mean,

00:49:26.360 they're about as bad a regime as you get,

00:49:29.180 but that's not why we should attack countries or why America should attack countries.

00:49:33.160 America should attack countries if it's in America's interest to do so. 0.96

00:49:36.040 It clearly isn't.

00:49:37.980 Um,

00:49:38.800 I think this is,

00:49:40.440 this is doing the bit of bidding of others.

00:49:42.080 And this is to be a distraction from Epstein because you saw Trump saying,

00:49:45.540 you know,

00:49:46.240 it's time for the country to move on.

00:49:48.220 Like he keeps on saying this.

00:49:49.560 It's time to move on.

00:49:50.440 There's nothing to see here.

00:49:52.160 We've only begun to go through this stuff.

00:49:55.220 There's so much to see here.

00:49:57.820 And,

00:49:58.360 uh,

00:49:58.920 just don't be distracted.

00:50:00.900 They want to waste Western lives, 1.00

00:50:04.340 fighting other people's wars,

00:50:05.980 uh,

00:50:06.700 and to distract us from what's happening right here.

00:50:10.140 And that a wild number of our elites,

00:50:13.840 except for Elon Musk,

00:50:15.040 because he's not cool enough,

00:50:16.100 apparently to get it to go to the Island.

00:50:18.540 It seems to genuinely not understand what was going on on the Island.

00:50:21.620 He just knew it was a good time,

00:50:22.700 but,

00:50:24.900 um,

00:50:26.120 trying to distract us from the fact that it seems,

00:50:29.240 uh,

00:50:29.580 that a huge part of our,

00:50:31.040 our governing,

00:50:31.780 our business and social elite are monsters and deserve little better than the woodchopper.

00:50:38.820 So that's it for me.

00:50:41.800 Dave,

00:50:42.720 David,

00:50:43.700 Mr. Epstein.

00:50:45.040 Um,

00:50:45.340 I'm Dave,

00:50:45.900 by the way,

00:50:46.280 he's David.

00:50:48.140 Yes.

00:50:48.840 Yeah.

00:50:49.360 Let him let in the,

00:50:50.740 let in the viewers know.

00:50:52.500 Yeah.

00:50:52.840 It's fine.

00:50:53.480 And we just call you.

00:50:54.560 Makes sense.

00:50:55.500 And,

00:50:55.760 uh,

00:50:55.900 and of course,

00:50:56.420 Mr. Epstein from,

00:50:58.540 uh,

00:50:59.360 off the,

00:51:00.080 uh,

00:51:00.440 small Island off the coast.

00:51:01.780 Nova Scotia.

00:51:03.800 Uh,

00:51:04.240 and,

00:51:04.720 uh,

00:51:05.600 and John on production.

00:51:06.500 Thank you very much.

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00:51:31.780 Uh,

00:51:34.060 oh,

00:51:34.560 oh.

00:51:36.860 Oh,

00:51:37.420 oh,

00:51:37.740 oh,

00:51:38.080 oh,

00:51:38.600 oh.

00:51:45.420 Oh,

00:51:46.020 oh,

00:51:46.340 oh,

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Western Standard - February 10, 2026

WATCH： Epstein： Put ’em all in the woodchipper

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