00:00:00.000Good afternoon, I'm Melanie Risden with the Western Standard and joining me this afternoon
00:00:13.800is a man that needs no introduction. I'm sure that our viewers and readers would know very well who
00:00:22.740Theo Fleury is a best-selling author, obviously an ex-NHL player, gold medal winner at the
00:00:30.440Olympics. The list goes on as to the things that Theo is involved with. Why don't you give us an
00:00:38.900update on what you've been doing, what's been keeping you busy these days? Yeah, well in 2009
00:00:44.040when I wrote Playing With Fire, it sort of put me on this trajectory into a whole different
00:00:52.060space and all that but what will really happen is i found my true purpose in life you know is that
00:00:59.100you know when i told my story you know i basically got run over after i told my story and people
00:01:05.140you know were coming up to the table at book signings and speaking engagements and workshops
00:01:11.080that i was doing and telling me their story right and so um you know and that's sort of when my life
00:01:18.280really made sense as because I always thought, why did I go through this or why did this happen
00:01:25.260or what did this happen for? And then all of a sudden, you know, there was a reason why all
00:01:31.020these things happened to me was to be able to now be in this position to be looked at as a safe
00:01:38.600person, somebody who's going to listen, somebody who's going to believe me, you know, all these
00:01:43.100things. And so, you know, it's been an incredible 15 years. And, you know, I was at the beginning
00:01:51.500of my healing journey when I started. And now, you know, I've sort of advanced into this,
00:01:58.980you know, mental health advocate, expert in the field of trauma, mental health and addiction and
00:02:05.040all these things. And so, you know, I feel very blessed and fortunate to not only still be here
00:02:12.640breathing but uh you know to be in a position to you know help so many people now i've been watching
00:02:20.160on twitter you have uh i think a hundred almost 140 000 followers on your twitter account seems
00:02:27.680like it's growing by a lot every week uh and you've been really outspoken about a lot of things
00:02:35.120that are are happening across our country you know in the world as well but um but specifically with
00:02:41.440what's happening in our country when it comes to the politics behind COVID, COVID-19, how we've
00:02:50.280been handling the pandemic, the restrictions that have been brought. Tell me a little bit about your
00:02:57.000thoughts on where we're going as a country. Well, first of all, I'll give you some background of
00:03:03.840of the reason why i'm interested in politics is you know before i guess the whole uh trump thing
00:03:12.800happened um i didn't know what affiliation i was i didn't know if i was conservative liberal
00:03:21.120libertarian patriot i had no idea what i was and you know being an athlete in new york
00:03:28.080you're gonna meet Donald Trump at some point so I I'd met Donald a few times and
00:03:33.300and really found him to be quite engaging he was a guy that the first day
00:03:39.980I met him shook my hand looked me in the eye you know grabbed me by the arm you
00:03:45.600know really kind of genuine and was interested in in me and he likes tough
00:03:51.180guys and so you know he obviously knew who I was and whatever and so in 2015
00:03:57.260when i saw him come down the escalator i was like why is this guy running for president of
00:04:02.540the united states and that piqued my interest and so i started you know i started where everybody
00:04:08.860starts so i started with cnn and i started watching programs and shows and i was like
00:04:15.900something's not sitting right with me so i switched over to fox and started to
00:04:21.260uh watch fox and and and i quickly realized that you know i'm a patriot i'm a freedom lover i'm
00:04:29.500a freedom of choice guy um you know i grew up in western canada uh where if you want to have
00:04:38.540success all you got to do is put your nose to the grindstone work hard you know the harder i work
00:04:43.580the luckier i get you know and that was sort of the hallmark of my hockey career was nobody
00:04:50.380expected me to do anything but the thing that i brought to the table every single night when i
00:04:55.260played was work ethic and and and i competed every night and so in order for me to make a
00:05:02.860big comeback in life i had to do the same thing i had to work hard and i had to be honest and open
00:05:07.900and willing to share my story and and so uh i started to see the direction that you know not
00:05:16.060only canada and the united states but the whole entire world was moving into the direction of
00:05:21.260globalism and communism and you know all these old uh things that have never worked right right
00:05:28.860communism has been tried 24 times in the history of our planet and it's failed every time and the
00:05:34.460only byproduct that comes out of communism is death right and if you're paying attention now
00:05:42.300what are we seeing we're seeing a lot more people you know in poverty shelves are empty uh you know
00:05:50.220people are dying from a virus you know all of these things and so you know we're headed down
00:05:56.300that road we're headed down that direction so um you know me being a guy that uh has always stood
00:06:03.580up for what i believe in uh you know i decided you know i started to comment on political matters
00:06:11.900and all of a sudden you know my twitter went from like 80 000 to 100 000 very quickly so i said to
00:06:18.060myself okay maybe i'm on to something maybe you know and you know the way that that uh you know
00:06:25.500the the globalists the way they work is they don't like guys like me right and so you know they've
00:06:33.260they've been trying to cancel me for, I don't know, five, 10 years now.
00:06:38.400And the thing with bullies is that's what they are is bullies is when you push
00:06:43.520back against bullies, that's the last time you see them.
00:06:48.020And so that's how I handle, you know, I don't,0.99
00:06:50.580I don't put up with bullshit. Right.0.99
00:06:53.040And so I've become this, this voice for, you know,
00:06:56.640the Patriot because most conservative people live in Western Canada are afraid
00:07:01.940to speak out so now i've become that person for them to rally behind because i'm not afraid
00:07:09.360right i'm not afraid to be cancelled i'm not afraid to you know be criticized or whatever
00:07:14.980that's politics if you're going to get into politics this this is the game right right
00:07:19.540and you have to have a thick skin and uh and yeah so um and yeah where the country's headed is is
00:07:27.140is not a good place um you know we have we basically have one party who supports patriotism
00:07:37.480and that's the ppcs and every other party is a version of globalists right one world government
00:07:46.500one world totalitarianism and uh and yeah and you know i i don't really want to live in that
00:07:56.800space you know and i've traveled all over the world i've been to i've been to russia a couple
00:08:00.720times and i saw you know what communism was and experienced communism right so you know and uh
00:08:09.840you know and from a spiritual perspective um you know i i have a deep faith in in you know whatever
00:08:18.000you want to call it god all over jehovah the universe a tree my backyard whatever you want
00:08:22.880to call it and you know god created the greatest immune system ever okay which to me says that
00:08:34.800i would be able to handle anything that comes our way so why would god create a virus that kills
00:08:41.200people he wouldn't man would create a virus that kills people right and this is where we're at
00:08:49.040and you know it's unfortunate because the most most of the world is traumatized right and when
00:08:58.120you're traumatized you can't think because all you're doing is trying to survive right
00:09:04.340and these globalists know exactly the psychology of the the state of the planet we're traumatized
00:09:13.000right and so and with trauma comes mental illness and addiction right and so the lockdowns
00:09:24.700are part of the the psychosis because as a person suffers from you know extreme anxiety and
00:09:34.380depression the worst place for somebody who suffers with mental illness is where
00:09:39.520alone secluded and inside of your own head right uh i can't go to church because that's community
00:09:48.720that's my relationship that's my connection to the universe i can't go to the arena i can't go
00:09:54.440to the hockey rink right why is there arena in every single town in canada because that's where
00:10:00.680people go to get their relationship they get their right you know they get their thing and so
00:10:05.120they know this and they've continually you know suppressed and suppressed and suppressed and
00:10:12.220suppressed and now you know uh the real pandemic is mental illness it's not COVID-19 the real
00:10:20.560pandemic is opioid overdoses addiction suicide all those things and so me working in that space
00:10:28.300you know over the last probably 18 months I've dealt with more people who you know are dealing
00:10:34.960with suicidal ideations and uh people who are at the end of the rope people are losing their
00:10:40.420livelihoods losing their jobs you know and then when you lose hope that's when people take their
00:10:45.760own lives is when they lose hope and there's not one politician on the planet right now that is
00:10:53.240selling any kind of hope whatsoever yeah i've noticed uh you know some of the tweets that
00:11:00.360you've been sharing and discussing on Trudeau and the divisive nature that has come out of some of
00:11:08.200the comments that he's been making, specifically targeting the unvaccinated population. You know,
00:11:13.900and it's interesting because I was just watching a sort of a video of him in the beginning of all
00:11:21.200this where he was where he was talking very specifically about um about not creating
00:11:28.800a segregated society and and of course we would not want to um to do any kind of mandatory uh
00:11:37.280you know and and now here we are uh and of course uh you had made comments on the the most recent
00:11:43.920um video that's been that's been circulating about him referring to the unvaccinated as
00:11:51.200typically misogynistic and what are your you know what are your thoughts on that this is the leader
00:11:56.560of our nation this is you know and i mean we've got we've got comments from um you know the uk
00:12:04.000people doing shows in the uk that are talking about the leader of canada uh making those kind
00:12:09.760of comments justin trudeau is a very tortured soul okay why do you think that is where does
00:12:16.960that come from you look into his history of his childhood it is just straight trauma right i know
00:12:26.480his mom struggled with mental health issues and so and so and so uh there's always a reason for
00:12:34.160the behavior and where is that behavior learned in childhood okay and his dad was what communist
00:12:44.240very well documented that it's communist so little justin grew up in this you know this
00:12:52.860really crazy lifestyle right uh um where he was given everything but he was also getting the
00:13:02.060subliminal messages from hanging around with his dad with all of these people that his dad was
00:13:07.080hanging around with plus his mom wasn't very stable at this at the same time so you know
00:13:12.500the biggest thing for, for Justin is he wants to be liked. And I know that feeling, right? Because
00:13:18.220I'm a traumatized guy and, uh, you know, I just want to be liked. Right. And you can see it in
00:13:24.660how he presents himself, you know, and there's a lot of shame attached to him because he looks
00:13:32.120down into the right all the time when he's speaking. And that's, that's a clear indication
00:13:37.380of shame interesting right you know because i you know as a as a sort of a therapist you know uh
00:13:45.060i have to pick on up on people's non-verbal cues right sure you know because most of us meet
00:13:52.980you know in the non-verbal world before we actually meet each other because we have energy
00:13:58.180right this energy is just bad right it's just bad you know everywhere he goes people
00:14:04.420you know really dislike him because he's not genuine right and you know most politicians
00:14:11.220who've been very successful and uh have led um um you know lead with you know this great energy and
00:14:21.540there's hope and and all this stuff and you know i i was very fortunate in my hockey life to play
00:14:27.780for some of the greatest leaders you know Gretzky, Lemieux, Sackick, Iserman, Messier
00:14:35.280and you know what these guys all were they were very humble guys very humble guys and they made
00:14:41.900everybody feel important and I don't see that with any any politicians anymore you know it's
00:14:49.440like they're celebrities and if you you're a celebrity then you're in the wrong business
00:14:54.480Because it's not politics. Politics is relationship, right? You know, you're selling yourself to, you know, the citizens of Canada, you know, and to think that he only has 32% support in the country, and he's doing these things.
00:15:19.120you know i i think if we voted on you know the great reset if that was you know the platform
00:15:27.060it would be long gone you know what i mean so so uh i actually feel sorry for him i was gonna say
00:15:35.420i i noticed that in your approach to talking about him which i think is indicative of of
00:15:41.980what you've overcome and what you've been through is the fact that you are looking at it instead of
00:15:46.820you know um in an attack mode which a lot of people are you are looking at it as this is
00:15:53.860a traumatized individual which i think shows a real sense of compassion right and which which
00:16:01.860is what which is necessary which is what we need like we need more compassion more empathy especially
00:16:07.220now because we're so divided right like there's no room here there's no room here that that that
00:16:16.500room in the middle is gone you're either left or you're right right it's very polarizing yeah you
00:16:22.740know what i mean and it's by design it's by design because when you divide people it's easier to
00:16:28.260control so when you're talking about trudeau uh are you and and the globalist agenda um do you
00:16:35.780see him as a puppet do you see him as yeah there's there's no there's no question because he wants
00:16:41.380to be liked so he's going to be coerced by anybody who has more power and and influence than him right0.95
00:16:52.580just watch him when he's one among the global elites watch him he's the class clown he's the
00:17:01.700guy that dresses up all the time right because he needs that you know that that reassurance
00:17:08.340right and you know i would say uh from top to bottom it's the most traumatized group of leaders
00:17:18.240in the history of our planet is what you're is what we're witnessing now we're kind of worldwide
00:17:23.960and you know you either go and get the healing that you need0.91
00:17:29.480or you become a narcissist psychopath crazy person right all these things and it's it's
00:17:38.760it's not hard to see from a psychological perspective the reason why we are in the0.82
00:17:44.960place that we're in right now looking at our leadership uh federally what about provincially
00:17:51.420what what's your take on how kenny and the you ucp have been dealing with the pandemic here
00:17:57.740And Jason Kennedy, sorry, Jason Kenney has the opportunity right now to become the Prime Minister of Canada without getting one vote.
00:29:00.060Now, you know, I'm a lot softer, I'm a lot kinder, I'm a lot more compassionate, I have a lot more empathy, but I had to learn that, right?
00:29:08.180And I don't see any of our leaders at this point, you know, talking in the way that needs to be.
00:29:50.540but according to pfizer moderna j&j the trials are over in 2023 right so when i have all the
00:30:01.140data in front of me in 2023 then i'll make the choice right but pushing it down my throat and
00:30:09.920shoving it down my throat and every every radio station i turn on there's a commercial every tv
00:30:16.040show i turn on there's a commercial asking me to get vaccinated that's never happened ever
00:30:23.240it was not a red flag you know well and the interesting thing too is you hear from uh from
00:30:29.560the media that uh this is you know the the say justin trudeau jason kenny the leaders are are
00:30:37.160are sort of representing what most people feel and believe when there was just a poll released
00:30:43.960that the overwhelming majority of Canadians do not actually believe that mandating vaccination
00:30:51.080in this circumstance makes sense. Yes. 80% of people do not want to be
00:30:56.520forced to be vaccinated. Right. So as a leader, wouldn't I take that information and say,
00:31:01.560yeah, that's probably not what they want. So what do they do when they see a poll like that?
00:31:07.000they amp it up even more. So what does that tell you? You shouldn't be doing what you're doing
00:31:15.240right now. Like that should be full stop. Full stop, right? Which tells me maybe Trudeau isn't
00:31:26.720the leader of Canada. Maybe Jason Kenney isn't the leader of Alberta, right? That there are
00:31:36.100bigger more powerful people behind the scenes that are on some strings here you know and we0.99
00:31:44.080should be able to have these kind of debates without people you know losing their shit right0.97
00:31:50.120this is conversation you need to have conversations like this that are uncomfortable you know uh you0.97
00:31:59.540know i deal i deal in trauma and sexual abuse and all that and and a lot of people
00:32:05.160can barely get those words out because there's so much stigma attached to telling your truth.
00:32:13.000Right. You know, and, and I don't see any of that, you know, constructive conversation happening.
00:32:21.780You know, it's just like, uh, because I'm making a statement, it's not because I'm,
00:32:30.060you know, against you. It's just that I have a whole lot of life experience
00:32:36.940and something's not right here. You know, like I'm not a dumb guy. You know, I've been around
00:32:43.500and I've seen a lot and experienced a lot and hung around with some really smart people. Right.
00:32:49.920And, and, and all I'm trying to do is, is just, just think, you know, do your own research.
00:32:58.080it's all out there the whole entire research is out there if you want to find it you can find it
00:33:04.160right and because i've been locked in my house for two years i got nothing else to do right
00:33:10.160so i'll watch videos i i do research i read articles i do all that stuff and then i come
00:33:16.160up with my own opinion but i think that the challenge with that though is that a lot of the
00:33:24.000information is not coming mainstream and and let's be honest there are a lot of citizens that
00:33:30.560rely on the six o'clock news to to be their information source so if we're not if if people
00:33:37.840aren't able to actually access the information the actual um you know statistics the you know the
00:33:45.600studies like like for instance i mean here here's a challenging part to the to the narrative is that
00:33:52.880But, you know, and it's kind of a meme that's been floating around social media is all of the, you know, leaders and, you know, World Health Organization, CDC, FDA, claiming these vaccinations are going to prevent the spread of COVID.
00:34:09.760Right. And so it's this constant narrative in the beginning.
00:34:13.400And so I understand this was the hope that this vaccine was going to be the end all be all for getting us through this pandemic safely.
00:34:24.220But once the data comes out and the real sort of trial information starts to come out that, you know, these breakthrough cases that they're referencing are actually happening on a massive scale now.
00:34:41.020And we're seeing, you know, new infections in people that are double, triple vexed.
00:34:48.540You know, I think at some level, what we're dealing with is the inability to say we were wrong.
00:34:57.300The inability to, you know, take the information that we've learned and communicate that honestly to the public.
00:35:06.060Well, so, you know, when I started out on my healing journey, right?
00:35:12.980They started talking about mental illness.
00:35:15.920Never really heard the phrase mental illness, right?
00:35:21.720Because my story starts in 1999 in New York when my mental illness showed up, right?
00:35:29.400And, you know, the sort of story out there is that my addiction took me out of the game.
00:35:36.060it wasn't the addiction my mental illness disguised as an addiction because
00:35:41.400I was coping with the mental illness and I had zero tools and nowhere to talk
00:35:46.620about it right so go to the first psychologist go to the first
00:35:51.720psychiatrist what do they do I tell them my symptoms they look on their card
00:35:58.620symptoms okay Zoloft Paxil right so I go down that road and I actually am worse
00:36:07.940right I'm worse because I'm taking drugs so then you know I start going to
00:36:17.200treatment you know I'm going to treatment centers I'm hanging out with all these
00:36:21.320really cool people, you know. And then I run into a lady from Siksika. Her name is Shield Woman.
00:36:35.860And everybody calls her Grandma Ruth. And she used to bring kids to my hockey school0.99
00:36:40.460a long time ago. And then we reconnected. And she started teaching me about spirituality. She
00:36:49.100started to teach me about holistic healing. And, you know, when I fully grasp onto the concept of
00:36:58.200holistic healing, that's when my life went to the next level, right? And the way I understand
00:37:06.080pharmaceutical is most pharmaceuticals are a synthetic version of something that's in
00:37:13.440the universe okay and so when i put something that's synthetic in my body my body goes i don't
00:37:21.540know what that is so i get a i get a small hit for a long-term solution okay but now i got to
00:37:32.640get rid of that synthetic version and where does it have to go through liver kidneys intestines
00:37:41.800science. And after what are the last 10, 15 seconds of every pharmaceutical commercial
00:37:47.980talking about the side effects, right? So me not having the ability to get rid of the
00:37:55.120synthetic part of the drug is the reason why I have all these problems, right? High blood
00:38:04.120pressure, diabetes, all these things, because my immune system is being taxed trying to
00:38:10.300get rid of these synthetic chemicals that my body doesn't know what they are right so i hang around
00:38:18.340with a medicine man uh down in carston alberta and uh you know when i got covid he was the first
00:38:29.220guy i called he came to my house brought me medicine and i took four doses of it and within
00:38:36.480hours you know i was feeling better right and there was no side effects right because it was
00:38:44.100all natural it was plant-based medicine right and when we're talking about big pharma we're talking
00:38:54.820about synthetic versions of medicine it's we're not actually getting medicine getting sicker
00:39:05.440Right? So when the vaccine thing came out, I was like, there is no way that I am putting anything synthetic that comes in a liquid form into my body, you know, because I've done my research, right? I've done my research.
00:39:24.900And I also have a mother who's been on pharmaceuticals for 50 years of her life, and she lives in a mental hospital over by McMahon Stadium, barely able to function because of the side effects of 50 years of Big Farm, right?1.00
00:39:40.700So I'm not talking out of my ass. I'm actually talking from a place of experience, of research and all these things. And, you know, if you're listening to this program right now and you're struggling with fear and you're paralyzed by fear and anxiety and depression, meditate. Meditate. Get your brain thinking on a different level, right?0.99
00:40:07.640that's what meditation is you know and it's and it's it's like taking a pill you know listening
00:40:13.960to a meditation is like taking a pill why because it changes your body chemistry you know it starts
00:40:21.320activating dopamine and serotonin which is the pleasure part of our brain which makes us happy
00:40:26.360and and and joyful and connected right you know so so there's that whole side of it as well that
00:40:34.520nobody's talking about yeah there seems to be a lot of sort of areas where you're almost shunned
00:40:42.280if you if you go there as a discussion and and again i get it i understand that that the goal
00:40:48.280was to was to get through this pandemic it was to hopefully rely on something that was reliable
00:40:54.680um you know but when when it's determined that that's that's yeah you can't you can't have that
00:41:00.600argument anymore like i'm sick of watching those horrific videos of people just dropping dropping
00:41:08.200well and you know i was going to talk to you a little bit about that too just just um the the
00:41:11.800idea of it in the world of sports uh you know it's it's interesting i i've i've seen a lot of um
00:41:20.280footage of uh of professional athletes um you know dropping dead uh passing out um uh you know it
00:41:29.560seems to be rampant uh in in the professional sports industry but there's you know there's
00:41:37.160other there's other things um that are confusing as well i mean you look at the nhl for instance
00:41:43.800and you see uh well most actually most industry most uh professional sport industry um have the
00:41:50.360vaccine mandates and uh where you're looking at the majority of players being fully vaccinated
00:41:56.200but yet you're still seeing massive outbreaks you're still seeing uh you know sort of entire
00:42:01.480teams um not being able to play yeah uh canadian teams were were not be able being able to play in
00:42:07.720canada for for quite some time and i mean we're talking about a fully vaccinated roster yeah
00:42:16.360so i mean thoughts there or is it just more more things that don't make sense yeah well
00:42:23.960somebody asked me the question you know if you were still playing would you be vaccinated i would
00:42:31.640say probably yes because i would be you know i would trust the team doctors i would trust
00:42:37.180you know the owners the gm everybody and effort everybody's doing it and and you know the hardest
00:42:44.200thing for an athlete to do is sit on the sidelines and watch his team go out go go to war and go to
00:42:49.180battle that's why you know uh i feel the way that i do today my body is just wrecked right because i
00:43:00.280because i played through injuries and i because i didn't want you know i didn't want to have to
00:43:06.020watch my team go out there without me right so i would have just followed the crew but because i
00:43:13.460you know, because I live in big pharma space, like I live in the space, right? I live in this,
00:43:19.700people ask me, you know, should I be taking this? Should I be taking that? And, you know,
00:43:24.240all that stuff. And, you know, I've been able to hang around with some of the greatest
00:43:30.360neuroscientists in the world who deal, you know, with brain chemistry and body chemistry and all
00:43:37.740that stuff. And, you know, the simple fact that no two people have the same body chemistry,
00:43:43.460And we're all, we're giving everybody the exact same formula.
00:43:49.440Well, and you even mentioned you had COVID.
00:43:52.000I mean, there's something to be said for the fact that natural immunity doesn't seem to be playing in this equation at all.
00:44:00.180Yeah, because if it did, they'd have to get rid of the vaccines.