Western Standard - WATCH： Hockey legend Theo Fleury uncensored

00:00:00.000 Good afternoon, I'm Melanie Risden with the Western Standard and joining me this afternoon

00:00:13.800 is a man that needs no introduction. I'm sure that our viewers and readers would know very well who

00:00:22.740 Theo Fleury is a best-selling author, obviously an ex-NHL player, gold medal winner at the

00:00:30.440 Olympics. The list goes on as to the things that Theo is involved with. Why don't you give us an

00:00:38.900 update on what you've been doing, what's been keeping you busy these days? Yeah, well in 2009

00:00:44.040 when I wrote Playing With Fire, it sort of put me on this trajectory into a whole different

00:00:52.060 space and all that but what will really happen is i found my true purpose in life you know is that

00:00:59.100 you know when i told my story you know i basically got run over after i told my story and people

00:01:05.140 you know were coming up to the table at book signings and speaking engagements and workshops

00:01:11.080 that i was doing and telling me their story right and so um you know and that's sort of when my life

00:01:18.280 really made sense as because I always thought, why did I go through this or why did this happen

00:01:25.260 or what did this happen for? And then all of a sudden, you know, there was a reason why all

00:01:31.020 these things happened to me was to be able to now be in this position to be looked at as a safe

00:01:38.600 person, somebody who's going to listen, somebody who's going to believe me, you know, all these

00:01:43.100 things. And so, you know, it's been an incredible 15 years. And, you know, I was at the beginning

00:01:51.500 of my healing journey when I started. And now, you know, I've sort of advanced into this,

00:01:58.980 you know, mental health advocate, expert in the field of trauma, mental health and addiction and

00:02:05.040 all these things. And so, you know, I feel very blessed and fortunate to not only still be here

00:02:12.640 breathing but uh you know to be in a position to you know help so many people now i've been watching

00:02:20.160 on twitter you have uh i think a hundred almost 140 000 followers on your twitter account seems

00:02:27.680 like it's growing by a lot every week uh and you've been really outspoken about a lot of things

00:02:35.120 that are are happening across our country you know in the world as well but um but specifically with

00:02:41.440 what's happening in our country when it comes to the politics behind COVID, COVID-19, how we've

00:02:50.280 been handling the pandemic, the restrictions that have been brought. Tell me a little bit about your

00:02:57.000 thoughts on where we're going as a country. Well, first of all, I'll give you some background of

00:03:03.840 of the reason why i'm interested in politics is you know before i guess the whole uh trump thing

00:03:12.800 happened um i didn't know what affiliation i was i didn't know if i was conservative liberal

00:03:21.120 libertarian patriot i had no idea what i was and you know being an athlete in new york

00:03:28.080 you're gonna meet Donald Trump at some point so I I'd met Donald a few times and

00:03:33.300 and really found him to be quite engaging he was a guy that the first day

00:03:39.980 I met him shook my hand looked me in the eye you know grabbed me by the arm you

00:03:45.600 know really kind of genuine and was interested in in me and he likes tough

00:03:51.180 guys and so you know he obviously knew who I was and whatever and so in 2015

00:03:57.260 when i saw him come down the escalator i was like why is this guy running for president of

00:04:02.540 the united states and that piqued my interest and so i started you know i started where everybody

00:04:08.860 starts so i started with cnn and i started watching programs and shows and i was like

00:04:15.900 something's not sitting right with me so i switched over to fox and started to

00:04:21.260 uh watch fox and and and i quickly realized that you know i'm a patriot i'm a freedom lover i'm

00:04:29.500 a freedom of choice guy um you know i grew up in western canada uh where if you want to have

00:04:38.540 success all you got to do is put your nose to the grindstone work hard you know the harder i work

00:04:43.580 the luckier i get you know and that was sort of the hallmark of my hockey career was nobody

00:04:50.380 expected me to do anything but the thing that i brought to the table every single night when i

00:04:55.260 played was work ethic and and and i competed every night and so in order for me to make a

00:05:02.860 big comeback in life i had to do the same thing i had to work hard and i had to be honest and open

00:05:07.900 and willing to share my story and and so uh i started to see the direction that you know not

00:05:16.060 only canada and the united states but the whole entire world was moving into the direction of

00:05:21.260 globalism and communism and you know all these old uh things that have never worked right right

00:05:28.860 communism has been tried 24 times in the history of our planet and it's failed every time and the

00:05:34.460 only byproduct that comes out of communism is death right and if you're paying attention now

00:05:42.300 what are we seeing we're seeing a lot more people you know in poverty shelves are empty uh you know

00:05:50.220 people are dying from a virus you know all of these things and so you know we're headed down

00:05:56.300 that road we're headed down that direction so um you know me being a guy that uh has always stood

00:06:03.580 up for what i believe in uh you know i decided you know i started to comment on political matters

00:06:11.900 and all of a sudden you know my twitter went from like 80 000 to 100 000 very quickly so i said to

00:06:18.060 myself okay maybe i'm on to something maybe you know and you know the way that that uh you know

00:06:25.500 the the globalists the way they work is they don't like guys like me right and so you know they've

00:06:33.260 they've been trying to cancel me for, I don't know, five, 10 years now.

00:06:38.400 And the thing with bullies is that's what they are is bullies is when you push

00:06:43.520 back against bullies, that's the last time you see them.

00:06:48.020 And so that's how I handle, you know, I don't, 0.99

00:06:50.580 I don't put up with bullshit. Right. 0.99

00:06:53.040 And so I've become this, this voice for, you know,

00:06:56.640 the Patriot because most conservative people live in Western Canada are afraid

00:07:01.940 to speak out so now i've become that person for them to rally behind because i'm not afraid

00:07:09.360 right i'm not afraid to be cancelled i'm not afraid to you know be criticized or whatever

00:07:14.980 that's politics if you're going to get into politics this this is the game right right

00:07:19.540 and you have to have a thick skin and uh and yeah so um and yeah where the country's headed is is

00:07:27.140 is not a good place um you know we have we basically have one party who supports patriotism

00:07:37.480 and that's the ppcs and every other party is a version of globalists right one world government

00:07:46.500 one world totalitarianism and uh and yeah and you know i i don't really want to live in that

00:07:56.800 space you know and i've traveled all over the world i've been to i've been to russia a couple

00:08:00.720 times and i saw you know what communism was and experienced communism right so you know and uh

00:08:09.840 you know and from a spiritual perspective um you know i i have a deep faith in in you know whatever

00:08:18.000 you want to call it god all over jehovah the universe a tree my backyard whatever you want

00:08:22.880 to call it and you know god created the greatest immune system ever okay which to me says that

00:08:34.800 i would be able to handle anything that comes our way so why would god create a virus that kills

00:08:41.200 people he wouldn't man would create a virus that kills people right and this is where we're at

00:08:49.040 and you know it's unfortunate because the most most of the world is traumatized right and when

00:08:58.120 you're traumatized you can't think because all you're doing is trying to survive right

00:09:04.340 and these globalists know exactly the psychology of the the state of the planet we're traumatized

00:09:13.000 right and so and with trauma comes mental illness and addiction right and so the lockdowns

00:09:24.700 are part of the the psychosis because as a person suffers from you know extreme anxiety and

00:09:34.380 depression the worst place for somebody who suffers with mental illness is where

00:09:39.520 alone secluded and inside of your own head right uh i can't go to church because that's community

00:09:48.720 that's my relationship that's my connection to the universe i can't go to the arena i can't go

00:09:54.440 to the hockey rink right why is there arena in every single town in canada because that's where

00:10:00.680 people go to get their relationship they get their right you know they get their thing and so

00:10:05.120 they know this and they've continually you know suppressed and suppressed and suppressed and

00:10:12.220 suppressed and now you know uh the real pandemic is mental illness it's not COVID-19 the real

00:10:20.560 pandemic is opioid overdoses addiction suicide all those things and so me working in that space

00:10:28.300 you know over the last probably 18 months I've dealt with more people who you know are dealing

00:10:34.960 with suicidal ideations and uh people who are at the end of the rope people are losing their

00:10:40.420 livelihoods losing their jobs you know and then when you lose hope that's when people take their

00:10:45.760 own lives is when they lose hope and there's not one politician on the planet right now that is

00:10:53.240 selling any kind of hope whatsoever yeah i've noticed uh you know some of the tweets that

00:11:00.360 you've been sharing and discussing on Trudeau and the divisive nature that has come out of some of

00:11:08.200 the comments that he's been making, specifically targeting the unvaccinated population. You know,

00:11:13.900 and it's interesting because I was just watching a sort of a video of him in the beginning of all

00:11:21.200 this where he was where he was talking very specifically about um about not creating

00:11:28.800 a segregated society and and of course we would not want to um to do any kind of mandatory uh

00:11:37.280 you know and and now here we are uh and of course uh you had made comments on the the most recent

00:11:43.920 um video that's been that's been circulating about him referring to the unvaccinated as

00:11:51.200 typically misogynistic and what are your you know what are your thoughts on that this is the leader

00:11:56.560 of our nation this is you know and i mean we've got we've got comments from um you know the uk

00:12:04.000 people doing shows in the uk that are talking about the leader of canada uh making those kind

00:12:09.760 of comments justin trudeau is a very tortured soul okay why do you think that is where does

00:12:16.960 that come from you look into his history of his childhood it is just straight trauma right i know

00:12:26.480 his mom struggled with mental health issues and so and so and so uh there's always a reason for

00:12:34.160 the behavior and where is that behavior learned in childhood okay and his dad was what communist

00:12:44.240 very well documented that it's communist so little justin grew up in this you know this

00:12:52.860 really crazy lifestyle right uh um where he was given everything but he was also getting the

00:13:02.060 subliminal messages from hanging around with his dad with all of these people that his dad was

00:13:07.080 hanging around with plus his mom wasn't very stable at this at the same time so you know

00:13:12.500 the biggest thing for, for Justin is he wants to be liked. And I know that feeling, right? Because

00:13:18.220 I'm a traumatized guy and, uh, you know, I just want to be liked. Right. And you can see it in

00:13:24.660 how he presents himself, you know, and there's a lot of shame attached to him because he looks

00:13:32.120 down into the right all the time when he's speaking. And that's, that's a clear indication

00:13:37.380 of shame interesting right you know because i you know as a as a sort of a therapist you know uh

00:13:45.060 i have to pick on up on people's non-verbal cues right sure you know because most of us meet

00:13:52.980 you know in the non-verbal world before we actually meet each other because we have energy

00:13:58.180 right this energy is just bad right it's just bad you know everywhere he goes people

00:14:04.420 you know really dislike him because he's not genuine right and you know most politicians

00:14:11.220 who've been very successful and uh have led um um you know lead with you know this great energy and

00:14:21.540 there's hope and and all this stuff and you know i i was very fortunate in my hockey life to play

00:14:27.780 for some of the greatest leaders you know Gretzky, Lemieux, Sackick, Iserman, Messier

00:14:35.280 and you know what these guys all were they were very humble guys very humble guys and they made

00:14:41.900 everybody feel important and I don't see that with any any politicians anymore you know it's

00:14:49.440 like they're celebrities and if you you're a celebrity then you're in the wrong business

00:14:54.480 Because it's not politics. Politics is relationship, right? You know, you're selling yourself to, you know, the citizens of Canada, you know, and to think that he only has 32% support in the country, and he's doing these things.

00:15:19.120 you know i i think if we voted on you know the great reset if that was you know the platform

00:15:27.060 it would be long gone you know what i mean so so uh i actually feel sorry for him i was gonna say

00:15:35.420 i i noticed that in your approach to talking about him which i think is indicative of of

00:15:41.980 what you've overcome and what you've been through is the fact that you are looking at it instead of

00:15:46.820 you know um in an attack mode which a lot of people are you are looking at it as this is

00:15:53.860 a traumatized individual which i think shows a real sense of compassion right and which which

00:16:01.860 is what which is necessary which is what we need like we need more compassion more empathy especially

00:16:07.220 now because we're so divided right like there's no room here there's no room here that that that

00:16:16.500 room in the middle is gone you're either left or you're right right it's very polarizing yeah you

00:16:22.740 know what i mean and it's by design it's by design because when you divide people it's easier to

00:16:28.260 control so when you're talking about trudeau uh are you and and the globalist agenda um do you

00:16:35.780 see him as a puppet do you see him as yeah there's there's no there's no question because he wants

00:16:41.380 to be liked so he's going to be coerced by anybody who has more power and and influence than him right 0.95

00:16:52.580 just watch him when he's one among the global elites watch him he's the class clown he's the

00:17:01.700 guy that dresses up all the time right because he needs that you know that that reassurance

00:17:08.340 right and you know i would say uh from top to bottom it's the most traumatized group of leaders

00:17:18.240 in the history of our planet is what you're is what we're witnessing now we're kind of worldwide

00:17:23.960 and you know you either go and get the healing that you need 0.91

00:17:29.480 or you become a narcissist psychopath crazy person right all these things and it's it's

00:17:38.760 it's not hard to see from a psychological perspective the reason why we are in the 0.82

00:17:44.960 place that we're in right now looking at our leadership uh federally what about provincially

00:17:51.420 what what's your take on how kenny and the you ucp have been dealing with the pandemic here

00:17:57.740 And Jason Kennedy, sorry, Jason Kenney has the opportunity right now to become the Prime Minister of Canada without getting one vote.

00:18:07.920 How do you figure?

00:18:09.620 Well, if he drops all the mandates, all the everything, what do you think everybody's going to do?

00:18:15.600 They're all going to move to Alberta.

00:18:18.080 Because what's happening in California, everybody's moving to Texas and Florida, right?

00:18:23.180 That's going to be the same thing that happens here.

00:18:25.540 and you know like i i look at it as an unbelievable opportunity to you know right the ship

00:18:34.040 but you know kenny's not a he's not a western kenny guy he doesn't have our you know beliefs

00:18:42.560 and morals and all that and so he's torn he's torn you can see it because he keeps flip-flopping

00:18:48.980 all the time because he needs to put it you know throw the line out and see see what people think

00:18:55.840 you know but I think if he if he just said you know what I'm going to do the Ron DeSantis thing

00:19:03.180 and I don't care anymore and he has that he has an amazing opportunity right now well and especially

00:19:09.140 with what's happening in places like Quebec where they're in curfew and we've got a you know a 0.63

00:19:14.980 premier that's that's basically now going to tax the unvaccinated whatever that's going to look like

00:19:20.820 uh i i could imagine and there's there's been a lot of um you know protesting and and whatnot

00:19:26.540 happening in quebec so you're right i think that there is definitely um a feeling like

00:19:32.900 some of this has gone too far uh and and talking about logic like you we had sort of talked about

00:19:40.640 this a little bit earlier let's let's get into the logic of of some of these arguments some

00:19:45.840 of these discussions some of these decisions well i did none of it makes sense it's all hypocrisy

00:19:52.160 and the hypocrisy is created to divide right basically you bring the whole entire country

00:19:58.000 together he can he has the ability right now trudeau opened the door for him he opened the

00:20:03.680 door for mo and saskatchewan right because you know even manitoba you know i grew up in manitoba

00:20:10.160 so you know you have the leaders the provincial leaders have an amazing opportunity right now to

00:20:17.680 end this in canada and if they don't we're in big trouble we are in big trouble so when you're

00:20:26.000 talking about kenny and and this opportunity um he's had this opportunity before and he's actually

00:20:32.160 done quite a bit of flip-flopping on on you know like yeah stop being open summer

00:20:39.100 stop being a politician and be a human being right you know it's

00:20:45.620 I honestly believe it's it's the greatest opportunity we have right now

00:20:51.320 right is you know we have all of these things that that the government has passed on to the

00:20:57.980 provincial you know provincial leaders to make the choices make decisions well that to me that's a

00:21:03.980 big opportunity to say you know what we're we're going a different direction right we're going a

00:21:09.020 different direction because you know we're 1.4 trillion dollars in debt and we have nothing to

00:21:15.900 show for it so where's all the money where's all the money we're never going to find out because

00:21:22.320 we have no, nobody out there other than Western Standard, Rebel News, you know, these small

00:21:28.620 little pockets of media where they're trying to get to the truth, right?

00:21:35.780 And the story that could be told is, it's horrific, corruption, blackmail.

00:21:48.660 Potentially profiteering.

00:21:50.780 racketeering yeah you know like it's it is unbelievable that we have allowed um you know

00:21:59.980 this to happen it becomes complex to trying to get to the bottom of um sort of especially in

00:22:09.020 our province who's making the decisions um i know i've tried uh on occasion to to seek uh answers

00:22:18.540 and uh you know you you go to the ministry the ministry says it's ahs you go to ahs the ahs says

00:22:24.860 it's the ministry um so that too what does that tell you right there right and hiding something

00:22:31.100 yeah and that too becomes you know it becomes difficult and and my understanding of of media

00:22:37.180 my respect for media has always been that media was a a buffer it was um it was to be the voice

00:22:44.540 of those without a voice it was to be the check and balance on uh on government on large corporation

00:22:51.420 and um uh you know a lot of people would would say that they're not seeing that happen here yeah

00:22:58.700 there isn't and you know my my biggest thing is where's the where's the law where are the lawyers

00:23:04.460 where the judges where you know mandates aren't laws you can't force them they're mandates not

00:23:11.020 laws right you know according to the you know the charter of rights and freedoms is is you know you

00:23:17.020 can't force me to put something in my body that i i don't want in my body well and i speak with uh

00:23:23.740 lawyers quite regularly who are dealing with clients you know fighting the mandates for work

00:23:29.260 uh employment issues things like that and it what i'm hearing from them is it feels like it's an

00:23:36.620 uphill battle because they're feeling like uh even our courts have sort of been given uh a narrative

00:23:45.500 or a mandate right and and so so i'm hearing on a regular basis that all of these lawyers dealing

00:23:52.620 with different different suits different lawsuits different provinces are all sort of seeing and

00:23:57.820 hearing similar um reports and feedback from from the courts which almost sounds scripted at this

00:24:06.140 point for sure so so the argument is are we going to be able to see justice in our country well if

00:24:13.660 we don't we're done that's the bottom line if there's no rule of law which there isn't anymore

00:24:20.060 in canada what happens chaos and drama and that's what we're seeing we're just seeing

00:24:27.580 chaos and drama there's no there's no sense of community there's no sense of hope there's no

00:24:34.780 there's nothing right and uh you know it's a scary time to uh try to navigate your way

00:24:42.780 through the world right and uh and you know being kind of a frontline worker

00:24:49.340 in the mental health space you know i'm dealing with it you know non-stop 24 hours a day seven

00:24:55.580 days a week right and uh but you know i try to look at the positive side of things you know and

00:25:08.880 you know the thing about criminals is they always get caught right the jails would be empty if there

00:25:16.780 was no crime right what do criminals do well they get more more risky more ambitious more ambitious

00:25:25.160 right you know and you know we're sort of seeing that now like with the you know forcing people to

00:25:31.660 be vaccinated and and taking away their rights if they're not vaccinated so that's that to me

00:25:37.840 that's escalation of where we started right because where we started wasn't too bad right

00:25:44.560 because but we didn't know yeah it seems like a slippery slope we didn't know yeah right and now

00:25:49.780 and thank thank god we have social media can you imagine if there was no social media

00:25:55.780 well even that seems to be you know fairly controlled i know uh have you you know speaking

00:26:02.660 of canceling have you had any issue with your twitter is anyone no no okay that's good no

00:26:08.020 it's been uh it's been actually pretty good like i know they're suppressing me a little bit but

00:26:14.180 you know uh i just continue to tweet more and more stuff so they have to work harder to

00:26:18.740 to suppress me off the off to the social media but uh well now it's talking about some of the

00:26:25.340 chaos and talking about social media um i noticed you retweeted uh something that jordan peterson

00:26:31.440 put out recently and it was talking about time for civil disobedience what are your thoughts

00:26:37.320 on that what does that look like what does that mean what you know when we're talking about

00:26:42.360 well the simple fact that we have to talk about that says a lot you know what i mean absolutely

00:26:50.120 and the simple fact that politics have basically taken over our whole entire lives

00:26:56.680 there's something wrong with that right because for me you know i believe that i have three

00:27:04.520 responsibilities as a citizen of canada pay my taxes vote and don't break the law other than that

00:27:12.360 don't need government involved in any aspect of my life right right and now they're getting into my

00:27:19.480 medical choices uh you know uh job opportunities you know all those things like that's not what

00:27:29.720 government is about like that's not why we created government you know right uh government was

00:27:37.720 created to provide for all you know all all citizens and they're taking that away from us

00:27:45.960 the ability to work the ability the ability to make money the ability to be successful

00:27:50.760 you know all these things and and it's unfortunate that uh you know uh the one percent you know uh

00:28:01.240 don't have a whole lot of compassion and empathy.

00:28:05.860 And, you know, I always ask the question, like,

00:28:10.240 when did human life stop mattering?

00:28:13.260 When did your life stop mattering?

00:28:15.880 When did mine stop mattering?

00:28:18.520 Because that's not the world I grew up in, you know?

00:28:22.480 I grew up in a very awesome community where, you know,

00:28:25.720 if it wasn't for my community, I don't think I would have made it

00:28:28.960 to the NHL because those people raised me.

00:28:31.240 And they gave me these incredible morals and values that I have, you know, in my life.

00:28:39.640 And I see that eroding so quickly, you know, is that we're, you know, we're just out of everybody's throats.

00:28:48.180 But that's trauma.

00:28:49.460 That's a trauma response.

00:28:51.200 I'm angry.

00:28:52.740 Right?

00:28:53.220 I used to be the angriest guy on the planet.

00:28:54.960 And you'd watch me play hockey when I went on the ice.

00:28:57.420 It was all about my anger.

00:28:58.880 Right?

00:29:00.060 Now, you know, I'm a lot softer, I'm a lot kinder, I'm a lot more compassionate, I have a lot more empathy, but I had to learn that, right?

00:29:08.180 And I don't see any of our leaders at this point, you know, talking in the way that needs to be.

00:29:20.600 We need a leader, right?

00:29:23.680 We need somebody who, you know, will just say no to the drug companies.

00:29:30.360 Just say no to, you know, like we don't have enough data to be giving this stuff out.

00:29:38.540 We don't have enough data, right?

00:29:40.980 Everybody calls me an anti-vaxxer and I say, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute.

00:29:45.140 I'm not an anti-vaxxer because I'm vaccinated, right?

00:29:47.880 I got all my shots as a kid.

00:29:49.660 I'm vaccinated.

00:29:50.540 but according to pfizer moderna j&j the trials are over in 2023 right so when i have all the

00:30:01.140 data in front of me in 2023 then i'll make the choice right but pushing it down my throat and

00:30:09.920 shoving it down my throat and every every radio station i turn on there's a commercial every tv

00:30:16.040 show i turn on there's a commercial asking me to get vaccinated that's never happened ever

00:30:23.240 it was not a red flag you know well and the interesting thing too is you hear from uh from

00:30:29.560 the media that uh this is you know the the say justin trudeau jason kenny the leaders are are

00:30:37.160 are sort of representing what most people feel and believe when there was just a poll released

00:30:43.960 that the overwhelming majority of Canadians do not actually believe that mandating vaccination

00:30:51.080 in this circumstance makes sense. Yes. 80% of people do not want to be

00:30:56.520 forced to be vaccinated. Right. So as a leader, wouldn't I take that information and say,

00:31:01.560 yeah, that's probably not what they want. So what do they do when they see a poll like that?

00:31:07.000 they amp it up even more. So what does that tell you? You shouldn't be doing what you're doing

00:31:15.240 right now. Like that should be full stop. Full stop, right? Which tells me maybe Trudeau isn't

00:31:26.720 the leader of Canada. Maybe Jason Kenney isn't the leader of Alberta, right? That there are

00:31:36.100 bigger more powerful people behind the scenes that are on some strings here you know and we 0.99

00:31:44.080 should be able to have these kind of debates without people you know losing their shit right 0.97

00:31:50.120 this is conversation you need to have conversations like this that are uncomfortable you know uh you 0.97

00:31:59.540 know i deal i deal in trauma and sexual abuse and all that and and a lot of people

00:32:05.160 can barely get those words out because there's so much stigma attached to telling your truth.

00:32:13.000 Right. You know, and, and I don't see any of that, you know, constructive conversation happening.

00:32:21.780 You know, it's just like, uh, because I'm making a statement, it's not because I'm,

00:32:30.060 you know, against you. It's just that I have a whole lot of life experience

00:32:36.940 and something's not right here. You know, like I'm not a dumb guy. You know, I've been around

00:32:43.500 and I've seen a lot and experienced a lot and hung around with some really smart people. Right.

00:32:49.920 And, and, and all I'm trying to do is, is just, just think, you know, do your own research.

00:32:58.080 it's all out there the whole entire research is out there if you want to find it you can find it

00:33:04.160 right and because i've been locked in my house for two years i got nothing else to do right

00:33:10.160 so i'll watch videos i i do research i read articles i do all that stuff and then i come

00:33:16.160 up with my own opinion but i think that the challenge with that though is that a lot of the

00:33:24.000 information is not coming mainstream and and let's be honest there are a lot of citizens that

00:33:30.560 rely on the six o'clock news to to be their information source so if we're not if if people

00:33:37.840 aren't able to actually access the information the actual um you know statistics the you know the

00:33:45.600 studies like like for instance i mean here here's a challenging part to the to the narrative is that

00:33:52.880 But, you know, and it's kind of a meme that's been floating around social media is all of the, you know, leaders and, you know, World Health Organization, CDC, FDA, claiming these vaccinations are going to prevent the spread of COVID.

00:34:09.760 Right. And so it's this constant narrative in the beginning.

00:34:13.400 And so I understand this was the hope that this vaccine was going to be the end all be all for getting us through this pandemic safely.

00:34:24.220 But once the data comes out and the real sort of trial information starts to come out that, you know, these breakthrough cases that they're referencing are actually happening on a massive scale now.

00:34:41.020 And we're seeing, you know, new infections in people that are double, triple vexed.

00:34:48.540 You know, I think at some level, what we're dealing with is the inability to say we were wrong.

00:34:57.300 The inability to, you know, take the information that we've learned and communicate that honestly to the public.

00:35:06.060 Well, so, you know, when I started out on my healing journey, right?

00:35:12.980 They started talking about mental illness.

00:35:15.920 Never really heard the phrase mental illness, right?

00:35:21.720 Because my story starts in 1999 in New York when my mental illness showed up, right?

00:35:29.400 And, you know, the sort of story out there is that my addiction took me out of the game.

00:35:36.060 it wasn't the addiction my mental illness disguised as an addiction because

00:35:41.400 I was coping with the mental illness and I had zero tools and nowhere to talk

00:35:46.620 about it right so go to the first psychologist go to the first

00:35:51.720 psychiatrist what do they do I tell them my symptoms they look on their card

00:35:58.620 symptoms okay Zoloft Paxil right so I go down that road and I actually am worse

00:36:07.940 right I'm worse because I'm taking drugs so then you know I start going to

00:36:17.200 treatment you know I'm going to treatment centers I'm hanging out with all these

00:36:21.320 really cool people, you know. And then I run into a lady from Siksika. Her name is Shield Woman.

00:36:35.860 And everybody calls her Grandma Ruth. And she used to bring kids to my hockey school 0.99

00:36:40.460 a long time ago. And then we reconnected. And she started teaching me about spirituality. She

00:36:49.100 started to teach me about holistic healing. And, you know, when I fully grasp onto the concept of

00:36:58.200 holistic healing, that's when my life went to the next level, right? And the way I understand

00:37:06.080 pharmaceutical is most pharmaceuticals are a synthetic version of something that's in

00:37:13.440 the universe okay and so when i put something that's synthetic in my body my body goes i don't

00:37:21.540 know what that is so i get a i get a small hit for a long-term solution okay but now i got to

00:37:32.640 get rid of that synthetic version and where does it have to go through liver kidneys intestines

00:37:41.800 science. And after what are the last 10, 15 seconds of every pharmaceutical commercial

00:37:47.980 talking about the side effects, right? So me not having the ability to get rid of the

00:37:55.120 synthetic part of the drug is the reason why I have all these problems, right? High blood

00:38:04.120 pressure, diabetes, all these things, because my immune system is being taxed trying to

00:38:10.300 get rid of these synthetic chemicals that my body doesn't know what they are right so i hang around

00:38:18.340 with a medicine man uh down in carston alberta and uh you know when i got covid he was the first

00:38:29.220 guy i called he came to my house brought me medicine and i took four doses of it and within

00:38:36.480 hours you know i was feeling better right and there was no side effects right because it was

00:38:44.100 all natural it was plant-based medicine right and when we're talking about big pharma we're talking

00:38:54.820 about synthetic versions of medicine it's we're not actually getting medicine getting sicker

00:39:05.440 Right? So when the vaccine thing came out, I was like, there is no way that I am putting anything synthetic that comes in a liquid form into my body, you know, because I've done my research, right? I've done my research.

00:39:24.900 And I also have a mother who's been on pharmaceuticals for 50 years of her life, and she lives in a mental hospital over by McMahon Stadium, barely able to function because of the side effects of 50 years of Big Farm, right? 1.00

00:39:40.700 So I'm not talking out of my ass. I'm actually talking from a place of experience, of research and all these things. And, you know, if you're listening to this program right now and you're struggling with fear and you're paralyzed by fear and anxiety and depression, meditate. Meditate. Get your brain thinking on a different level, right? 0.99

00:40:07.640 that's what meditation is you know and it's and it's it's like taking a pill you know listening

00:40:13.960 to a meditation is like taking a pill why because it changes your body chemistry you know it starts

00:40:21.320 activating dopamine and serotonin which is the pleasure part of our brain which makes us happy

00:40:26.360 and and and joyful and connected right you know so so there's that whole side of it as well that

00:40:34.520 nobody's talking about yeah there seems to be a lot of sort of areas where you're almost shunned

00:40:42.280 if you if you go there as a discussion and and again i get it i understand that that the goal

00:40:48.280 was to was to get through this pandemic it was to hopefully rely on something that was reliable

00:40:54.680 um you know but when when it's determined that that's that's yeah you can't you can't have that

00:41:00.600 argument anymore like i'm sick of watching those horrific videos of people just dropping dropping

00:41:08.200 well and you know i was going to talk to you a little bit about that too just just um the the

00:41:11.800 idea of it in the world of sports uh you know it's it's interesting i i've i've seen a lot of um

00:41:20.280 footage of uh of professional athletes um you know dropping dead uh passing out um uh you know it

00:41:29.560 seems to be rampant uh in in the professional sports industry but there's you know there's

00:41:37.160 other there's other things um that are confusing as well i mean you look at the nhl for instance

00:41:43.800 and you see uh well most actually most industry most uh professional sport industry um have the

00:41:50.360 vaccine mandates and uh where you're looking at the majority of players being fully vaccinated

00:41:56.200 but yet you're still seeing massive outbreaks you're still seeing uh you know sort of entire

00:42:01.480 teams um not being able to play yeah uh canadian teams were were not be able being able to play in

00:42:07.720 canada for for quite some time and i mean we're talking about a fully vaccinated roster yeah

00:42:16.360 so i mean thoughts there or is it just more more things that don't make sense yeah well

00:42:23.960 somebody asked me the question you know if you were still playing would you be vaccinated i would

00:42:31.640 say probably yes because i would be you know i would trust the team doctors i would trust

00:42:37.180 you know the owners the gm everybody and effort everybody's doing it and and you know the hardest

00:42:44.200 thing for an athlete to do is sit on the sidelines and watch his team go out go go to war and go to

00:42:49.180 battle that's why you know uh i feel the way that i do today my body is just wrecked right because i

00:43:00.280 because i played through injuries and i because i didn't want you know i didn't want to have to

00:43:06.020 watch my team go out there without me right so i would have just followed the crew but because i

00:43:13.460 you know, because I live in big pharma space, like I live in the space, right? I live in this,

00:43:19.700 people ask me, you know, should I be taking this? Should I be taking that? And, you know,

00:43:24.240 all that stuff. And, you know, I've been able to hang around with some of the greatest

00:43:30.360 neuroscientists in the world who deal, you know, with brain chemistry and body chemistry and all

00:43:37.740 that stuff. And, you know, the simple fact that no two people have the same body chemistry,

00:43:43.460 And we're all, we're giving everybody the exact same formula.

00:43:49.440 Well, and you even mentioned you had COVID.

00:43:52.000 I mean, there's something to be said for the fact that natural immunity doesn't seem to be playing in this equation at all.

00:44:00.180 Yeah, because if it did, they'd have to get rid of the vaccines.

00:44:04.080 Right.

00:44:04.620 Right, you know?

00:44:05.500 so and you know the whole invermectin hydroxychloroquine conversation has just been

00:44:15.340 wiped off the map well why has it been wiped off the map because if it actually works then

00:44:21.260 they can't implement if there's therapeutics then the vaccines can't be brought into play

00:44:29.800 if there's therapeutics so you know it's common sense has left the building you know and you know

00:44:41.540 it's it's just politics right yeah and I mean speaking of somebody who who sort of grew up in

00:44:47.880 hockey I mean you know it seemed so devastating uh when they canceled the world junior uh championships

00:44:56.220 here uh you know that's i mean maybe you can speak more to this clearly uh i mean that's that's a

00:45:03.880 once in a lifetime shot for some of these kids yeah and the simple fact that conor mcdavid hasn't

00:45:09.500 had to has hasn't played in the olympics yet it's ridiculous right you know um

00:45:16.700 i learned so much from being around the greatest players in our game like to be in the dressing

00:45:27.720 room with the guys that i was with in 98 the guys i was with in 2002 only made me not only a better

00:45:36.000 hockey player but it made me a better person and a better leader because i was hanging around guys

00:45:40.840 that were winners right you know and uh and yeah i i am very worried about you know the olympics

00:45:53.160 in beijing this year and what what's going to come out of that well then and the men's team is not

00:45:58.360 going but i understand the the women's team yes for sure for sure and and you know the greatest

00:46:03.720 honor you can have as a athlete is to represent your country you know and in my lifetime i i had

00:46:10.200 the very fortunate pleasure and honor of playing for my country 10 times in my career and every

00:46:15.880 time i put on that jersey not only was i representing myself but i was representing

00:46:20.280 the 37 million people that live in canada because basically we just shut down and we're in front of

00:46:27.320 our tv for two weeks and we live and die with our teams right because hockey is religion in canada

00:46:34.840 you know yeah especially western canada for sure yeah yeah and uh you know um yeah i feel badly for

00:46:42.360 for the guys that haven't had the opportunity to go because not only is the actual playing part

00:46:49.160 cool but hanging out in the athlete village with all the other athletes and getting an

00:46:53.640 opportunity to talk to them and and find out what they have to go through to get to where they are

00:46:59.000 and you know and and um yeah it's just an incredible experience and then also you're

00:47:06.520 you know you're you're representing your country you're representing your flag you're representing

00:47:11.160 all of the incredible amazing morals that canadians have hard work dedication drive

00:47:19.080 determination like that's that's canada and you're representing that right do you think

00:47:25.560 you think the men's team should be going oh geez I I just can't see how they can make it work if

00:47:33.200 if some guy gets sick right because if you get sick you're there for 21 days after the fact

00:47:42.160 and and the league's still going to be going on right because you can't shut down the league

00:47:46.800 so so yeah it's it's a you know it's a difficult thing but I still think it should be choice you

00:47:54.080 You know, Sidney Crosby wants to go to the Olympics, then he should be allowed to go, right?

00:48:00.280 And again, for some of these players, that's a once in a lifetime.

00:48:03.080 It's a once in a lifetime.

00:48:03.980 You're maybe going to get two, well, one for sure, and then maybe two or three, depending on, you know, where you're at, right?

00:48:17.220 You know, this was going to be Crosby's last Olympics, Ovechkin's last Olympics, you know, all these guys.

00:48:24.080 that, you know, are superstars in the game and, you know, we're trying to grow, grow the game

00:48:29.560 globally. And where's the best place to grow globally is best on best. You know, I know that

00:48:37.420 the final game in Salt Lake City was watched by 80 million people worldwide, you know, and that

00:48:43.740 kind of really put it into perspective. Was that the game where they had a loony in the ice? Oh,

00:48:50.000 I remember them digging it out after, after we won, you know, who got that loonie?

00:48:56.560 I think it was Gretz.

00:48:57.440 I think the guy gave it to Gretzky and then Gretzky gave it to the Hockey Hall of Fame

00:49:01.760 people that were, that were there.

00:49:03.440 It's incredible.

00:49:04.160 It's displayed in the Hockey Hall of Fame.

00:49:08.320 Now, did I read, right, um, Hockey Heroes game coming up in April?

00:49:13.280 Are you participating in this?

00:49:14.640 I'll be up in, uh, White Court, uh, with some of my old hockey buddies.

00:49:19.600 yeah who's who's playing with you shane corson and uh geez there's a uh i don't know if george

00:49:28.160 is coming up there george laroque yeah there's quite a few big name guys are going to be up there

00:49:33.760 so that's how i got covet actually but i was playing i uh i was playing with the flames alumni

00:49:40.240 we did two games in uh central alberta and uh came back after and was like holy cow i'm sick

00:49:47.600 and did you get really sick uh the first couple days were uncomfortable chills and and uh um

00:49:56.320 aches and pains but yeah as soon as i took took the medicine i was i was good to go yeah i've been

00:50:02.400 good since so um about the uh the hockey heroes game that's kind of like a what do you call it a

00:50:08.640 pros um play with the pros so does that mean people can register to play against you guys yeah

00:50:16.080 yeah is are the teams together no so what we do is we split up into two teams and uh you know

00:50:23.200 guys pay the charity to play with us and and we go out and we play a game and then after we have

00:50:29.760 a banquet and do a hot stove lounge and tell a few stories about you know the game and whatnot so

00:50:36.400 how long have like have you done this before have you been doing this for years since it sounds like

00:50:40.960 fun there used to be a tour called the legends tour they used to go right across canada and i

00:50:46.720 used to play like 60 games a year it was almost like you know in the old nhl yeah but it was so

00:50:52.800 much fun uh because you know we played against either the police or fire departments in every

00:50:59.280 city that we're in we're raising money for for their charities and yeah it was a lot of fun and

00:51:04.160 i was in unbelievable shape you know getting an opportunity to play every day and whatnot

00:51:10.080 you know uh i was a big new york islanders fan when i was a kid and and on that tour there was

00:51:16.720 brian trache clark gillies bobby born billy smith like my idols and i got to hang around with these

00:51:24.080 guys for like four straight winters you know and listen to all their stories about winning

00:51:30.240 the stanley cups and you know brian trache is a really good friend of mine and and uh yeah it's

00:51:36.640 it's it's really cool so you know i can't wait till we get back to some normalcy so we're where

00:51:42.800 we can do some of these things again because you know my life is a lot of it is charity work right

00:51:48.240 and i haven't been able to do any of it you know it's been really difficult and and uh that's what

00:51:55.520 i love about alberta in general is you know when i got to calgary there's only 550 000 people here

00:52:03.840 right it was kind of like a small town and the great thing about the calgary flames and playing

00:52:10.560 for the calgary flames was not only were you expected to be a great hockey player but you're

00:52:15.520 also expected to be a part of the community oh yeah and get involved in charity work and all

00:52:20.080 that stuff and some of my friends are the people that i met doing charity work in calgary you know

00:52:26.960 know and uh and uh when i was deciding where i wanted to live you know post hockey career i knew

00:52:33.860 it was going to be in alberta because you know uh i'd met so many incredible people that do

00:52:39.340 incredible things and uh you know and it's all in that charity space you know like this summer we

00:52:47.820 went to red deer and the edmonton oilers and calgary flames got together and raised 1.7 million

00:52:54.280 dollars to the child advocacy center of central alberta and that's you know that's one of my

00:52:59.640 charities that's near and dear to my heart is is helping traumatized kids you know get some help

00:53:07.480 so you know um and uh and like i said so you know when i talk about this opportunity that jason

00:53:15.460 kenny has it is a big opportunity you know and uh you know i hope that he that he listens to this

00:53:22.340 interview because I really believe that we're going completely down the wrong road and he has

00:53:31.900 an opportunity to really step up as a leader and bring back some hope and some integrity and some

00:53:38.660 class to our province. How often are you getting on the ice these days? Not very often. Not very

00:53:45.520 very often you know you're gonna have to you have to get up out there and warm up before your uh

00:53:51.520 before your game in a couple of months a couple other things i wanted to ask you about um you

00:53:57.680 you put a call out to reporters to do a story on the world economic forum connections with 0.55

00:54:03.040 canadian politicians what's behind that well that i just saw christie freeland was hanging

00:54:10.080 around with those guys and michelle rempel and uh and uh um you know i'm very aware of uh klaus

00:54:18.640 schwab's book the great reset you know um and uh you know there's there's got to be something there

00:54:25.920 you know because uh like i said like we're 1.4 trillion dollars in debt and we don't really have

00:54:31.840 anything to show for it when we ask about where the monies went crickets so to me that's that's

00:54:39.200 pretty shady Pierre Polyev is he's an interesting voice they're questioning

00:54:46.340 those that sometimes I like his dry sense of humor and how he's he approaches

00:54:50.660 some of those topics I see you've tweeted a few things from him yeah yeah

00:54:55.760 I've got an opportunity to meet Pierre and sit down with him and have some

00:55:00.800 conversations but you know i just i get really bad energy from politicians like you know because

00:55:12.320 i'm an empath too right so i know right away if you're a good human or you're not a human

00:55:18.160 and uh every time i'm in a room of politicians i just get really you know affected i don't get

00:55:26.480 good i don't get good vibes uh they're the majority of them are are not genuine the majority of them

00:55:34.480 um think they're celebrities you know like i stopped taking pictures with them because that

00:55:42.400 was the first thing they would ask oh can i have my picture with you because you know what they're

00:55:45.840 going to do they're going to run to social media and put this picture yeah saying oh yeah i'm

00:55:49.760 really doing you know talking to Theo Fleury you know this advocated activist in the space you know

00:55:57.520 I was absolutely flabbergasted how much they didn't know about child sexual abuse so I've

00:56:04.000 been following you on Twitter you seem to put quite a bit out quite a bit of content out every

00:56:10.560 day and yeah you want to see a little bit more of what Theo believes and you know what he stands for

00:56:19.440 and what he's fighting for um i highly recommend scrolling you might be scrolling for a while i know

00:56:24.800 i did on his uh twitter feed um and uh you're you're updating that and you're re-tweeting

00:56:32.000 things from people um sort of pretty much every day so uh so some interesting uh insights that

00:56:38.640 you can get there and um you know what i just really want to thank you for coming sharing about

00:56:44.000 where you're at right now i think i think a lot of people are looking to you as a voice that they

00:56:49.440 don't have right and so um i you know i think it's important that people like you who have

00:56:56.480 that opportunity do stand up now for sure well there's a reason why i'm still here right you

00:57:03.840 know and uh you know i really believe that uh god has had a plan for me for from day one

00:57:12.080 and the only time the plan went sideways was when i was running the show you know and so there's a

00:57:19.200 reason why i'm you know all of a sudden in this you know this fight and in this battle and you

00:57:26.240 know anybody that knows anything about my life you know i've been a fighter my whole entire life so

00:57:30.920 why are you surprised now that you know you know in every single visiting arena i went into i got

00:57:37.620 booed which was the best compliment you could ever be paid well i do remember that right yeah you

00:57:43.540 know yeah and uh but i i want people to know that you know if you're struggling with mental health

00:57:50.820 and you have nobody to talk to please send me a message on social media and i'll get back to you

00:57:56.420 within within an hour because i know how difficult it is when you don't have anybody to talk about

00:58:03.220 you know what's going on in your life and uh you know i'm a guy that that you know god gave me two

00:58:10.500 years for a reason nine times out of ten that's all i have to do is listen be present attuned

00:58:18.420 compassionate empathetic and we'll get through it well we appreciate that yeah

00:58:24.740 Thanks for joining us today. Yeah, my pleasure. Thanks, Melanie. Okay.

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