Western Standard - Week 2. Has the Conservative bleeding stopped？

00:00:00.000 Would you let Jeffrey Epstein watch your kids?

00:00:07.700 Didn't think so.

00:00:09.700 What about his accomplice,

00:00:11.480 Guy Lane Maxwell?

00:00:13.640 Hard pass.

00:00:15.680 So why trust him?

00:00:18.300 Mark Carney, Maxwell's friend, not yours.

00:00:30.000 Good day.

00:00:59.740 welcome to the cory morgan show take two this is where i get a a second day during the week on

00:01:05.740 these fridays to kind of wrap up round up talk about what's going on in this election so far 0.92

00:01:11.100 we're through a full second week of campaigning and boy it's got stupid weird odd and uh depressing

00:01:17.500 but we'll see there's still uh two and a half three weeks almost left to go on this thing and

00:01:23.180 we will see what happens and this show is live i see a few of you checking in already e-sharp

00:01:28.060 wild rose and shauna vision saying good afternoon so i'm going to assume you're out east uh wish

00:01:33.340 you the best in this election i wish you guys might reconsider some of your voting patterns

00:01:36.780 if you're watching this show chances are you're probably not a liberal but you never know i can't

00:01:40.460 presume so yeah i got quite a lineup today quite a few guests coming on i'm going to have franco

00:01:45.020 terrazzano the taxpayers federation coming on a little bit jay hill former conservative house

00:01:50.140 leader is going to talk some politics of course with us james snell our alberta bureau chief is

00:01:56.140 He's going to give the Alberta perspective on what's going on in this election.

00:01:59.580 And then Peter Coleman of the National Citizens Coalition is going to round it all out.

00:02:02.840 So we've got a lot of ground to cover today, guys, and a lot of stuff to talk about.

00:02:07.820 So that's fine.

00:02:09.300 The show would get dull if I ran over that.

00:02:10.820 We don't have to worry about it. 0.97

00:02:11.460 I'm a blowhard.

00:02:12.180 I've always got a lot to talk about.

00:02:13.200 So use that comment scroll.

00:02:14.280 I see Jordan there, too.

00:02:15.900 This is live, interactive, and this one doesn't even get rebroadcast to TV like my other shows.

00:02:19.720 So we could be a little less constrained on things on here.

00:02:23.160 But we've still got to keep things civil.

00:02:24.300 All right, let's start things out, though, by seeing what's top in the news today and check in with our news editor, Dave Naylor.

00:02:29.440 So, hey, Dave.

00:02:30.840 Hey, Corey. Good morning.

00:02:31.960 Good day.

00:02:32.740 How come you get two microphones? I only get one.

00:02:35.640 Because there's just so much bloviating coming from here that some might overwhelm it and get on. 0.77

00:02:40.600 I want two microphones.

00:02:42.340 You'll have to take that up with our producer.

00:02:44.120 I'm going to go to the senior executives. Wait a minute. I am a senior executive.

00:02:49.140 I'm just a part-timer.

00:02:50.120 Exactly. So, end of week two on the campaign.

00:02:53.000 uh uh certainly an interesting week where do you want to start why don't we start with

00:02:57.440 polls uh we had a poll last night from uh abacus which is a respected polling firm

00:03:04.120 and uh and another one this morning showing tories have crept ahead so is there some hope

00:03:10.460 i didn't catch the abacus one there's another one i i have actually i gave you on the image

00:03:14.200 uh innovative i'm not sure what those guys but they're not a familiar pollster to me but that

00:03:18.460 That one showed a conservative lead by a point, anyways, as good as they've hoped for in this last while.

00:03:23.840 It's a start, isn't it?

00:03:26.040 Hopefully, as your show is titled, hopefully the bleeding has stopped.

00:03:29.540 Well, something from David Coletto with Abacus is interesting.

00:03:32.420 He pointed out the polling midway through the 2015 election had the conservatives leading the liberals by one point at that point.

00:03:40.120 And, of course, we know by the end of the 2015 election, the liberals had won a majority.

00:03:43.320 So halfway through an election doesn't necessarily show where an election is going to end.

00:03:48.720 A lot can change.

00:03:49.520 No, but, you know, hopefully it's a harbinger of the future.

00:03:54.200 So, yeah, you know, I think as we talked about earlier, I think it's going to come down to the debates.

00:03:58.940 They are going to be so crucial.

00:04:00.740 As we know, Mark Carney is not overly proficient in French, so that'll hamper him.

00:04:06.040 And we've seen several years of Pierre Polyev in the House of Commons just carving, carving up the Liberals.

00:04:14.320 So I look forward to his performance in the debates.

00:04:17.180 I see Jordan actually, one of our commenters, saying the same thing.

00:04:19.420 He's looking forward to seeing if the debates swing the polls.

00:04:21.540 So, you know, maybe that's a lot of people are hanging on.

00:04:22.960 I mean, they really don't know Carney well.

00:04:25.480 You know, there's that point where a lot of, even in different Canadians, make a habit,

00:04:28.740 okay, I'll sit down for an hour, hour and a half and stare at these people and get to know them for a little while.

00:04:34.160 Yeah, it's good to see Jordan and I have the same mindset.

00:04:36.860 Yes, yes.

00:04:37.840 So obviously I think the big news this week, tariffs, everything around tariffs

00:04:42.020 and the mad orangemen tariffing the world and including some uninhabited islands 0.98

00:04:47.760 that their poor penguins got tariffed.

00:04:51.120 So great memes of them coming back to get Trump.

00:04:54.720 So Carney took some time off the campaign trail and formulated Canada's response,

00:05:02.400 which was 25% retaliatory on any sort of American automobile products.

00:05:10.380 And I think both the party leaders, opposition party leaders,

00:05:14.420 Polly Evans and Singh were probably in agreement with that.

00:05:17.500 You know, they sort of said that they would do something similar.

00:05:22.980 So, you know, the stock markets are plunging.

00:05:26.880 Poor Nigel's retirement fund is going to have to be working to 95 now.

00:05:30.780 So it's still going to take several days of a shakedown

00:05:36.020 until we figure it out.

00:05:37.280 Yeah, well, and again, I mean, I've been watching the discussion online

00:05:39.780 from supporters of Trump.

00:05:41.540 Fair enough.

00:05:42.320 Oh, it's going to be the short-term pain for long-term gain.

00:05:44.420 Guys, I just wish, don't listen to Trump.

00:05:47.700 Listen to some economists. 0.62

00:05:49.060 Just check out some people who are the dorks who dig into that 0.90

00:05:52.360 because, no, you can't tariff yourself wealthy. 0.56

00:05:55.680 It's not going to be short-term pain.

00:05:57.360 It's going to be just pain.

00:05:59.040 No.

00:05:59.100 But I guess, like anyone else, we seem to learn things the hard way.

00:06:02.340 Yep.

00:06:02.720 Can you say recession?

00:06:04.000 Yeah, let's look at that.

00:06:06.300 Today is already being busy.

00:06:08.700 Mark Carney held a press conference in Quebec to say he's going to give the CBC even more money.

00:06:16.220 To produce stuff that nobody's watching.

00:06:17.900 Yeah, to produce stuff.

00:06:18.680 So he's going to give them an extra $150 million on top of their $1.3 or $1.4 billion that they already get.

00:06:25.520 And he's blaming Trump because, you know, that we've got to protect our Canadian identity.

00:06:30.080 And the one thing that CBC does is protect our Canadian identity.

00:06:34.160 And so there you go.

00:06:35.120 More money for the state broadcaster.

00:06:36.760 Oh, good.

00:06:37.160 I'm thrilled.

00:06:39.200 They haven't made anything good since the Beachcombers. 0.98

00:06:41.280 No, exactly.

00:06:42.420 I loved Relic.

00:06:43.960 He was great.

00:06:44.540 Oh, he was.

00:06:45.180 Yes.

00:06:45.440 No, there was good content.

00:06:46.900 There was.

00:06:47.420 I mean, it was, but it was a different era.

00:06:48.980 We've got to accept that.

00:06:50.060 You know, even a little Bobo when I was a kid.

00:06:51.600 Hey, great stuff.

00:06:52.480 But those days are done.

00:06:53.840 All good.

00:06:55.040 Also in Quebec today was Paul Yevon.

00:06:57.940 He made an announcement on domestic violence, basically.

00:07:02.160 Intimate partner violence says things like if he's elected,

00:07:06.760 that if you're charged with intimate violence and intimate partner violence

00:07:11.100 and you get bail, you get an ankle bracelet so the cops can keep an eye on you.

00:07:17.360 And he's going to make intimate partner murder, basically a right-of-way first-degree murder charge, none of this manslaughter, crime of passion stuff.

00:07:29.180 So he was strong on domestic violence today.

00:07:36.220 Well, you know, crime doesn't make election issues federally nearly enough.

00:07:40.860 And I mean, I'm glad he's addressing it because it shows that he's addressing based on principle, not on, you know, internals or polling.

00:07:46.580 because as much as citizens get upset between elections on crime,

00:07:49.540 they never seem to make it an election issue.

00:07:51.600 So I'm not probably I was bringing it up.

00:07:52.700 Well, I think we're all upset with this catch and release stuff.

00:07:56.340 And how many times have we written stories on offenders being released

00:08:00.100 back into the community and days later they're already back in the slammer.

00:08:04.640 So I agree it's an important issue.

00:08:08.260 Now the funniest story of the week, the NDP porn scandal.

00:08:12.020 Oh, it's beautiful.

00:08:12.940 Oh, I mean, this is just like gold, Jerry, gold. 0.82

00:08:19.080 Yeah, Jagmeet was interviewed by a porn star from OnlyFans, you know, one who was pouring milk all over herself and all that sort of stuff.

00:08:29.140 And she was actually on the campaign bus until it was pointed out by the media that, you know, you might want to rethink this.

00:08:38.640 it's one thing to do an odd you know side podcast interview but when they're joining you on the

00:08:44.000 campaign bus like they got a pole on the bus or something yeah they must have a one of yeah good 1.00

00:08:49.200 point i like this this porn producer is so weird she did we've got a story up on the site today

00:08:57.840 when she was pregnant uh she went and got a uh an abortion pill and uh and had a had an abortion 1.00

00:09:06.800 and she put the fetus in a jar and was like displaying the fetus on camera and all that 1.00

00:09:13.040 sort of stuff which you know is he could get her in legal trouble because it's a crime to

00:09:18.400 commit an indignity against a body and apparently fetuses are classified as human remains so

00:09:24.320 this is the type of mentality that jagmeet seems to uh to attract uh the big story on our site all

00:09:31.840 week has been one by Sean Polzer called Pipeline Paradox in which Brookfield

00:09:40.900 Brookfield Investments, who as you know was until recently chaired by one Mark

00:09:46.340 Carney, is in the process of buying a ten billion dollar pipeline in the United

00:09:50.860 States. So it's the same Mark Carney that says he's going to keep Bill C-69, the

00:09:56.820 no more pipelines bill yet his business which he still owns millions of dollars worth of shares in

00:10:03.200 is buying up pipelines like what's going on well you know i mean it's almost a show on its own like

00:10:09.600 some of the older discussion though we've had some strange funding to the anti-pipeline activists

00:10:14.480 and groups that keeps pouring out through tides and other you know american groups to try and

00:10:19.460 shut down canadian oil and gas development people have found that there's sometimes if you trace it

00:10:23.420 Far enough, American oil company interests, they don't want Canada developing more of this stuff,

00:10:28.320 so they're sort of incentivized to shut down Canadian stuff.

00:10:31.500 Now, whether or not that ties all the way around to Kearney, who knows.

00:10:35.340 But, I mean, when you're running millions in a pipeline in the United States

00:10:37.920 and then you're opposing a pipeline in Canada, it kind of smells funny.

00:10:41.080 It does smell a little funny.

00:10:42.880 We've got a couple stories up, a column from Brian Giesberg,

00:10:47.300 called mark carney's father who was a teacher in the residential school systems way back in the day

00:10:54.420 and uh somebody's uncovered an old cbc recording from decades and decades ago of uh mark carney

00:11:01.300 talking about uh uh the retardation of negro children his father sorry his father yes sorry 0.99

00:11:09.220 uh retardation of negro children and how he how they want to to um you know teach teach 1.00

00:11:16.340 indigenous kids life skills and whatnot so they can go back to go back to the 1.00

00:11:21.860 reserve you know prepared to deal with the future so it's it's an interesting

00:11:26.000 and I was sort of one of you it's a story like okay you decide whether Mark

00:11:29.540 Carney's father was a racist or was it whether he was just ahead of his time so

00:11:33.860 I invite everybody to go on there and this weekend Polly of his BC bound and

00:11:41.060 And he's got a morning event tomorrow in Osoyoos.

00:11:45.820 And he moves on to beautiful Penticton for a big rally.

00:11:49.580 And apparently they've rented out one of the biggest places in Penticton

00:11:52.820 because I'm sure they'll get thousands and thousands of people there.

00:11:56.960 And our own Jared Yager will be in attendance.

00:12:00.320 He'll be covering them all weekend right through until Sunday

00:12:03.460 where he's supposed to have an announcement in Vancouver.

00:12:06.140 Right on, Will.

00:12:07.000 No weekend for Jared.

00:12:07.880 No, but it'll just be okay.

00:12:09.280 Come on, he's touring BC.

00:12:10.440 he's a kid yeah fine if i can think of nice worst things to do let me hang around the okanagan where

00:12:16.120 i'm sure spring is already sprouting where we're just watching the snow exactly you know he's

00:12:19.720 probably staying in the best western in a soyuz he'll have uh he's working for the standard i'm

00:12:23.880 sure he's something but i'm just young in a tent on the side of the road oh yeah so that's uh the

00:12:32.360 week uh summed up right on well thanks steve i'll let you get in to run up the weekend content for

00:12:38.040 friday and talk to you after the show you bet thanks cory thanks that is our news editor dave

00:12:43.580 naylor and yes we got people going out there covering this stuff across the country as it

00:12:48.140 happens and lots of interesting stories from the funny to the depressing to the serious it's all

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00:13:47.460 i got like i said quite a bit of a lineup of them this week we got franco terrazzano of the canadian

00:13:52.020 taxpayers federation and he's got a lot of work to do trying to convince a whole lot of candidates

00:13:56.860 to try and be financially responsible it's quite a monumentous task so uh hey there franco how's it

00:14:02.360 going hey cory it's going great man great to be on the show with you yeah well it's about time

00:14:07.700 it's been like weeks well hey there's no shortage of the government soaking taxpayers so we always

00:14:15.100 have a lot to say yeah well and it's great no and i'm glad to have you on again it's always great to

00:14:20.440 have you on and with what you guys are doing to try and hold them all to account something i

00:14:24.540 noticed and you know and it's not unusual the first week of this campaign has been you know

00:14:28.900 the first week in carrying on promises promises promises tax cut promises which are fantastic

00:14:33.720 but there's also been a lot of spending promises and i haven't heard much for cutting anywhere so

00:14:38.840 where's this going to balance well that's a great question right because we already know that the

00:14:43.360 trudeau government in less than a decade doubled the entire federal debt right now interest charges

00:14:49.380 on the debt are costing taxpayers more than $1 billion every week. Now, Corey, think about it.

00:14:55.900 What's a billion dollars, right? That is the cost of building a brand new hospital, but that money's

00:15:01.700 gone. It's going to the bond fund managers on Bay Street. So Canadians are losing a lot out of this.

00:15:07.060 Let me just put it into context one more time here. Welcome to Canada, folks, where every dollar

00:15:13.380 you pay in federal sales tax is going to pay interest on the federal debt. So look, it's good

00:15:19.040 that we're seeing parties try to duel over who can cut taxes the most on income taxes. I got to

00:15:25.260 say, you know, Polyev is promising twice as much income tax cuts as Carney. So, hey, look, it's

00:15:31.480 good to see them cutting taxes, but especially Carney, we haven't heard a single thought out of

00:15:37.220 him on where he's going to cut some wasteful spending. At least Mr. Polyev, while we're still

00:15:42.140 waiting for the full details, is talking about shrinking the size and costs of the federal

00:15:47.080 bureaucracy, which the cost has gone up like 73% since 2016. It's gross. He's talking about

00:15:54.760 cutting back the taxpayer costs of all this consultants, right? Talking about cutting back

00:15:59.500 all the wasteful spending going overseas. So we definitely need to see more on the savings side.

00:16:05.480 And we also need to see more on the tax cut side because look, people are struggling,

00:16:09.900 the economy's struggling, and the way we're going to get Canada firing on all cylinders again is by

00:16:14.540 massive tax cuts and big time cuts to these onerous regulations yeah well so i mean i guess

00:16:21.780 getting into the the the t-word that we've been hearing throughout this election has been tariffs

00:16:25.480 and there's a lot of confusion i think on people's part of what a tariff is a tariff is a tax

00:16:29.000 and uh they're using that tax on both sides of the border as their swords as they battle with

00:16:35.200 each other but i think all of the canadian public if you're if you're cheering on trump's tariffs or

00:16:40.200 if you're cheering on retaliating tariffs better understand that you're always the one who's going

00:16:45.200 to pay for them oh yeah you couldn't be more spot on look you know who likes tariffs the people who

00:16:51.660 want more government control more government intervention you know who loses out on tariffs

00:16:56.420 the forgotten class right the ordinary working americans and canadians who are going to be the 0.92

00:17:02.860 ones who take it on the chin and look like let's let's like put it on the record right here a

00:17:07.980 tariff is a tax. So when Mr. Trump imposes tariffs, what he's doing is he's putting a tax

00:17:13.360 on American businesses, which then pass on higher prices to American consumers. Well,

00:17:18.740 the converse is also true, right? When our own federal government in Ottawa hits back with

00:17:23.600 knee-jerk retaliatory tariffs, well, that's a tax on Canadian businesses, which means higher prices

00:17:29.680 for Canadian consumers, right? At the end of the day, look, if Washington DC wants to hammer

00:17:35.540 americans with new and higher taxes it doesn't mean that ottawa should then hammer canadians

00:17:40.980 with new and higher taxes it's kind of a race to the bottom i see one of the commenters saying the

00:17:46.580 usual thing though until they produce their products in america but that strategy of trying

00:17:50.900 to tax yourself into domestic viability has never traditionally worked in any countries uh uh i mean

00:17:57.780 people keep saying short-term paying for long-term gain it's not going to happen they're just going

00:18:02.340 going to pay more money yeah i mean look uh higher taxes isn't going to help your economy

00:18:07.680 it's just that simple right it's going to allow governments to intervene more into the economy

00:18:12.840 in fact what should we what we should be doing is the exact opposite we should be cutting the red

00:18:18.060 tape the regulation the roadblocks to major natural resource projects we should be cutting

00:18:22.380 the massive tax burden that canadians are facing that is the long-term strategy to help the economy

00:18:28.780 but more to the point to help Canadians, right? I mean, like, look at it this way, Corey. I know

00:18:32.600 you and your audience know this very personally, but you know, since 2015, we have seen $670

00:18:39.880 billion in major natural resource projects, either stalled or canceled. How about we just be able to

00:18:46.720 build stuff here in Canada without the government soaking taxpayers through all these different

00:18:51.240 subsidies? Like, look, taxes are not a short-term or a long-term strategy to actually help the

00:18:57.560 people, right? Taxes help the fat cat government bureaucrats and politicians who are going to spend 1.00

00:19:02.840 your money. If we want to talk about helping ordinary people, ordinary Canadians, we got to

00:19:07.660 talk about letting ordinary Canadians keep more of their own hard-earned money. So getting back to

00:19:13.100 that, the carbon tax, the consumer portion, it looks like it appears to be gone. The liberals,

00:19:18.720 at least pragmatically enough, even though before they said, you know, the world was going to burn

00:19:22.120 and people were, you know, all going to suffer if we didn't have that consumer carbon tax.

00:19:26.060 so they've decided no we don't need that consumer carbon tax but the industrial carbon tax is going

00:19:31.800 to go up if they get their way well you know what cory i'm so glad you brought that up and look we

00:19:36.740 just uh we got a new book coming out here axing the tax my first book uh the rise and fall of

00:19:41.740 canada's carbon tax it's coming out april 10th you can get it right now on amazon and look one

00:19:47.520 of the reasons i wrote this book cory is for that exact reason you brought up because look canadians

00:19:52.580 did a ton of work going to rallies, organizing advocacy campaigns, emailing politicians. So

00:20:01.040 ordinary Canadians essentially forced the Liberal government to at least back down

00:20:05.600 on its consumer carbon tax. But Corey, as you mentioned, the fight against carbon taxes is far

00:20:11.800 from over. So all the government has done so far under Prime Minister Mark Carney is set the carbon

00:20:18.080 tax rate to zero. But the carbon tax law is still on the books. So after the election, you could get

00:20:24.840 these politicians going back to the House of Commons and they can just crank that carbon tax

00:20:28.860 right back up. But more to the point, Corey, Carney isn't scrapping carbon taxes. To use his

00:20:35.780 own word, he wants to change it, right? He just doesn't want you to see the consumer facing carbon

00:20:41.960 tax. So what Carney wants to do is he wants to hammer Canadian businesses with huge hidden carbon

00:20:48.060 taxes. And he hopes you won't notice when they pass some of those costs onto you through higher

00:20:53.340 prices. But folks, it's even worse than that. Because remember, no matter who is in the White

00:20:58.980 House, they're not imposing carbon taxes. The Democrats didn't do it. Trump didn't do it. I

00:21:03.860 don't think Trump's ever going to impose a carbon tax on the United States. So what a Canadian

00:21:08.160 carbon tax on canadian businesses means it's going to push canadian businesses to cut production in

00:21:14.080 canada and set up shops south of the border so carney's hidden carbon tax on business is the

00:21:20.240 worst of all worlds it means higher prices for canadians less production in canada and fewer

00:21:26.080 jobs for us canadians well some people have made the case and i've looked it up and it's baloney

00:21:32.160 but either way you could expand on it more i'm sure they're saying well canada if it doesn't

00:21:35.680 have a carbon tax will be put at a trade disadvantage because so many uh collectives

00:21:40.000 like the eu and others will refuse to buy our goods if we aren't kicking ourselves in the nuts

00:21:44.080 with the carbon tax okay that doesn't even muster one second of critical thinking okay so folks think

00:21:52.160 about it this way oh they are arguing that the federal government should hit all canadians with

00:21:58.400 carbon taxes in the off chance that some countries impose carbon tax tariffs when some of our

00:22:06.320 businesses sell some of our other goods to those countries right so they want to hammer everyone 0.84

00:22:12.240 with carbon taxes in the off chance that some of our businesses face some carbon tax tariffs when

00:22:17.760 they sell some of their goods abroad it makes absolutely no sense okay but let me expand on

00:22:23.600 that um here's another thing the vast majority of countries don't impose national carbon taxes

00:22:30.240 okay the world bank's own data shows that about 70 percent of countries don't have national carbon

00:22:36.400 taxes okay that even includes four of the five largest emitters india russia brazil and the

00:22:43.040 united states and the us is who we still sell the bulk of our goods to okay so none of this makes

00:22:50.240 any sense. Here's what's going on. Here's what those spinners, those carbon tax activists

00:22:54.420 are doing. They lost the argument on the environment because the carbon tax doesn't

00:23:00.000 work to help the environment. Okay. They lost the argument on affordability because obviously the

00:23:06.120 carbon tax makes the necessities of living in Canada more expensive. So after having lost all

00:23:11.320 of the other arguments, they're now going through their bag of phony baloney tricks to try to

00:23:16.700 convince Canadians on another front. But look, that argument that we need a carbon tax here in

00:23:21.840 Canada to escape some carbon tax tariffs in other countries, like that doesn't make any sense. Why

00:23:27.260 would the federal government hammer all Canadians with a carbon tax in the hypothetical chance that

00:23:32.880 in the future, some Canadian businesses would be affected by carbon tax tariffs when they sell

00:23:37.760 some of their goods? Well, that's it. And as you pointed out, 70% of countries don't have a bloody

00:23:42.500 carbon tax. China is one of the biggest exporters in the world, if not the biggest exporter in the

00:23:46.560 world countries are still buying their products despite their lack of carbon tax likewise with

00:23:50.960 the united states and we really need to be i mean we should be streamlining our country we're

00:23:55.360 realizing we don't have as stable a trading partner to the south as we thought we did

00:23:59.940 well we'd better be as uh productive and and efficient as humanly possible and a carbon tax

00:24:05.420 is is just an economy killer uh yeah totally especially when you think of what is probably

00:24:11.040 the worst country in the world to have a carbon tax? Canada. And if it's not the worst country,

00:24:16.960 it's one of the top worst countries to impose a carbon tax. Like folks, newsflash, Canada is a

00:24:22.440 very cold place. Okay. So a carbon tax hurts us very much when we have to stay warm or when

00:24:28.280 businesses have to have natural gas so that their customers don't freeze, right? Canada is a very

00:24:33.780 big place. You got to fuel up your car to get to work. Truckers have to fuel up their big rigs with 0.79

00:24:39.700 diesel to get stuff from point A to point B. Not only that, but Canada has a very natural resource

00:24:45.560 intensive economy and the carbon taxes is kicking our industries in the teeth, right? So if there

00:24:51.580 was any country out there where the carbon tax would be the worst idea, it would be right here

00:24:56.540 in Canada. So, I mean, I understand we're on the same page with a lot of things. Pretty much most

00:25:01.400 taxes are bad ideas for the most part. We want to minimize capital gains came up and it looks like

00:25:08.000 suddenly that's not one of the best taxes in the world as well. The government, even Carney has

00:25:11.760 admitted, you know, because that's a just terribly destructive tax as well. I mean, what worse to

00:25:16.260 disincentivize it than people investing and trying to build enterprise? What was the

00:25:22.140 Taxpayers Federation's take on that? Yeah, cut capital gains taxes. I mean, it's a horrible tax.

00:25:28.100 I mean, look, it is a financial sucker punch to people who worked hard their whole lives to save

00:25:33.740 for the retirement, build a business or invest in other properties. It's a financial sucker punch.

00:25:39.740 But not only that, like, look, it is such a discouragement. Okay. Think about it this way.

00:25:43.880 Think what a capital gains tax hike would do. You're essentially telling that young, smart

00:25:48.140 graduate from a Canadian university who wants to build the next Google in Canada to leave Canada

00:25:53.500 and set up shop in another country. And like, look, we all know that capital gains taxes are

00:25:59.220 absolutely devastating if you're like in terms of trying to attract and keep investment or to allow

00:26:04.780 people to build a business. But there's two other points here. Number one, let's just look at the

00:26:09.280 data. Okay. Well, Canada taxes capital gains well above the OECD average. Okay. Well above our

00:26:16.940 industrialized peers. Now, if you're looking at a competitive tax system, here are the things that

00:26:22.240 make a country's tax systems more competitive. Number one, they have flat or relatively flat

00:26:28.740 income taxes. Okay. Number two, they have low business taxes. Well, Canada essentially does

00:26:36.900 the exact opposite. We have a very uncompetitive tax system. Our governments are absolutely money

00:26:42.520 hungry, thirsty for more of other people's money. And that's one of the reasons among others like

00:26:47.840 roadblocking development as why Canada is struggling economically right now. But here's

00:26:53.620 the second point. You know, a lot of Canadians who work outside of government, like they're the

00:26:59.760 ones who don't have the taxpayer funded pension, right? The golden pension, government bureaucrats,

00:27:05.880 golden pension, politicians, golden pension paid for by the taxpayer. Well, you know, doctors,

00:27:12.420 small business owners, people who just invest in a secondary property, that is their retirement.

00:27:17.880 That is their nest egg for their golden years. And that is the people that are going to get

00:27:23.060 absolutely clobbered by high capital gains taxes here in canada all right well before i let you go

00:27:29.580 i mean it's one more time are you going to have like some sort of formal book launch event or

00:27:33.380 something going on there on the 10th well uh so on the 10th we're going to be in ottawa at the

00:27:38.160 strong and free conference we'll have some books available there but then starting the next week

00:27:41.940 folks we're going to be on a little bit of a book tour okay so stay tuned for details of that it's

00:27:46.900 uh we're going to be in calgary at some point as well uh but folks get the book axing the tax the

00:27:52.240 Rise and Fall of Canada's Carbon Tax. It's on Amazon right now, coming out April 10th. And

00:27:57.520 folks, it is the book that the carbon taxers don't want you to read. Excellent. I appreciate

00:28:03.780 it, Marco. You know, I just as a side note before I let you go and kind of showing my age and how

00:28:08.740 long the Taxpayers Federation has been at. But there was a book I bought when I was in my late

00:28:12.000 20s. It really did impact me. It was called Tax Me, I'm Canadian by Mark Milkey. And he was heading

00:28:17.260 the Taxpayers Federation back then. You guys really do important work just to help people

00:28:21.600 with their economic literacy.

00:28:23.060 So I hope the book's a bestseller

00:28:25.460 and I hope maybe some of our people in power

00:28:27.060 learn from it too.

00:28:28.440 Hey, me too, Corey.

00:28:29.520 And hey, thank you so much

00:28:30.480 for having me on your show today.

00:28:31.900 Great, thanks, Franco.

00:28:32.740 I'll talk to you again soon.

00:28:34.240 All right, Franco Teresano

00:28:35.900 of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.

00:28:37.520 And yes, Axing the Tax.

00:28:38.800 It's going to be a great book, guys.

00:28:39.980 Make sure.

00:28:40.340 There we go.

00:28:40.680 Kenzie's got a pre-order in for it already.

00:28:43.140 And Jordan, yeah, I knew you were asking questions

00:28:44.760 about Mexico and sovereign default.

00:28:47.440 It's just that would be subject matter

00:28:48.760 for an entirely different show.

00:28:50.300 but they're good questions absolutely but we do only have so much time and again today's packed

00:28:55.440 i got a great guest lineup so i'm going to move right into the next one i see jay hill

00:28:58.740 in the lobby there hey jay how you doing terrific uh cory how about yourself i'm all right but i'm

00:29:05.820 not enjoying that weather you're still uh sucking in down there in uh arizona south of the border 0.67

00:29:12.840 yeah yeah i was there in january but not for long enough patriotic canadians apparently according

00:29:19.140 to trudeau yeah well we don't take much of what mr trudeau says very seriously uh so i mean boy

00:29:26.900 interesting political times uh probably uh good to keep you from the stressful insanity kind of

00:29:32.100 watching from a distance but we really need your input on some of this this campaign is really not

00:29:37.300 been going as a lot of people would have hoped with the conservatives well of course the interesting

00:29:42.340 question i think for all of us cory is how accurate are those polls that consistently have shown and

00:29:48.420 continue to show that Carney's going to win a majority government.

00:29:52.900 A lot of people are having a lot of problems, believe in those polls.

00:29:56.020 I saw a story a day or two ago where a pollster was actually questioning his own poll results.

00:30:01.940 So, so we'll have to see, I guess.

00:30:04.420 And for Westerners largely, at least we keep holding our breath and hoping for the best.

00:30:10.900 Yeah.

00:30:11.220 So something that's kind of started to come up throughout this race and you mentioned

00:30:15.540 it earlier when you're chatting uh preston manning popped up and spoke and uh i i think

00:30:20.380 accurately maybe some people didn't want that question coming into this campaign but all the

00:30:24.120 same there's some truth to it uh canada's unity is kind of at stake here big time and uh you know

00:30:30.680 i applaud my former leader preston manning uh and uh you know his thoughts about this and sort of

00:30:38.680 you know issuing a bit of a warning to voters that might not do the research necessary before

00:30:44.780 they cast their ballot. You know, he said, and I'm going to quote from his guest column,

00:30:51.660 he said, a vote for Kearney is a vote for Western secession, a vote for the breakup of Canada. Now,

00:30:58.060 of course, since then, I think it was yesterday that Paulyev was asked about it, and he tried to

00:31:04.600 distance himself a little bit from those comments. And, you know, he talked about how he believes in

00:31:11.100 the unity of the country. And then more recently, when Carney was asked about it, he said, well,

00:31:18.580 Preston Manning's comments were, quote, unhelpful and dramatic. Well, I would suggest to Mr. Carney

00:31:25.220 and anyone else that takes exception to these comments by Preston, that they're supposed to be

00:31:31.200 dramatic, because they're supposed to be a wake-up call that a lot of Westerners in particular, but

00:31:38.160 But I think given the tremendous showing of support at these rallies, right from Newfoundland

00:31:44.960 to British Columbia and points in between, you know, thousands upon thousands of people

00:31:51.020 are showing up to hear Pierre Polyev's vision for where he would take Canada if he was fortunate

00:31:58.500 enough to be elected and get a majority mandate.

00:32:02.760 You know, so I think the comments are supposed to be dramatic.

00:32:05.740 I think that voters should do some research, take a look at even excerpts from Mr. Carney's book, and learn about his views of how he intends to govern, given the opportunity.

00:32:22.940 And if that doesn't scare the hell out of them, I don't know what will.

00:32:26.540 Well, and you're a veteran of a number of campaigns.

00:32:29.400 uh something i know campaigner really wants though you know putting on the campaign type hat aside

00:32:35.260 from what's right or wrong is external events impacting the campaign because you can't control

00:32:40.940 them you have to react to them rather than uh you know being the person driving the events and

00:32:46.420 and i could see frustration for mr polyev when he's trying to do a national campaign and premier

00:32:52.920 smith who again i agree with where she's coming from and what she's saying or again preston manning

00:32:57.960 he's absolutely right with what he's saying, but boy, it kind of throws something into the

00:33:02.920 punch bowl when those comments come up and they're trying to focus on policy releases.

00:33:09.060 How does Mr. Paliyev deal with this? Well, I think he's dealing with it the proper way

00:33:13.800 for a person in his position. You've just encapsulated, Corey, I think the dilemma that

00:33:20.140 he has. I think that Pierre probably believes that Manning and Daniel Smith and Scott Moe in

00:33:27.060 Saskatchewan are accurately portraying a large segment of the Western population when they view

00:33:34.060 that another liberal win, I might add the fourth government in a row should Carney win, is just

00:33:42.340 completely opposite to the direction that the majority of Westerners want to see our country

00:33:49.100 go in. We believe very strongly that under Trudeau and with the support and advice from Mark Carney,

00:33:57.060 uh they have all but destroyed the economy in particular of western canada but entire the

00:34:02.900 entire nation and uh you know if the polls are to be believed at all uh the people that are going to

00:34:10.420 vote for carney had better at least do the research necessary before they mark their ballot or we're

00:34:17.460 going to see widespread from coast to coast to coast regret and buyer's remorse shortly after

00:34:26.020 the election if uh if mr carney wins and that will also be manifested i believe in the situation with

00:34:34.820 western secession i think that westerners have had enough of liberals at least for a while

00:34:40.100 and they want to see some common sense government uh return to our nation yeah when polls have

00:34:46.420 traditionally under underestimated conservative support both sides of the border even municipal

00:34:51.140 and provincial elections there's been a lot of that happening but there's still some interesting

00:34:55.220 trends happening right now and and it's just that that trump factor that nobody really prepared for

00:35:01.140 and what i think it's led to is just my interpretation because something we're seeing

00:35:04.900 in the polls which is really interesting though terrifying in a way i i believe people really

00:35:10.660 rally the troops when they feel that there's been an external threat so they're kind of going to

00:35:14.100 what they feel is comfortable or stable and that's why the bloc has plummeted in the polls

00:35:20.180 and the ndp have plummeted people who would vote on principle for side issues feel that there's a

00:35:24.740 a bigger threat coming from south of the border and they'd better move to the center to grab that 1.00

00:35:29.300 to head it off and that's again something that polyev can't counter very easily well that's

00:35:36.640 exactly right i mean we all know that uh traditionally whether it was the reform party

00:35:42.220 originally and then the canadian alliance and then the merger of uh of the canadian alliance

00:35:47.500 and progressive conservatives that produced the existing conservative party of canada

00:35:51.540 There's always been one party that I would argue of common sense, support for smaller government and larger private employment in our nation.

00:36:05.480 And all the other parties are of the left of some form of socialism, bigger government, government programs, et cetera, et cetera.

00:36:14.840 So when you get a meltdown of the two minor parties, the Bloc Québécois and in particular the NDP, which is, of course, a national party, that support is going to traditionally gravitate towards the Liberals.

00:36:33.600 And that's what we're seeing.

00:36:34.740 And that makes it even tougher for a Conservative Party, regardless of the leader, to win.

00:36:40.360 But as I was saying, Corey, I think that Poliev is handling this business about the potential for Western secession properly.

00:36:50.100 He has got to be opposed to discussion about that during the campaign, no matter what his internal beliefs are.

00:36:59.320 because, of course, if he was to even mention any thought that, well, maybe Manning knows what

00:37:05.400 he's talking about, he would be immediately attacked for trying to blackmail voters. And,

00:37:12.880 you know, that would be a terrible strategy to be branded with. And so he's doing whatever he can

00:37:19.840 to try and get the message back on the issues that he feels are important, which is affordability

00:37:27.720 and housing issues and inflation and the cost of groceries and immigration levels and those

00:37:37.400 all important national issues that to some extent are being overlooked because of this focus on

00:37:43.740 Trump and tariffs, which by anybody's estimation will be a relatively short-lived, thank God,

00:37:51.920 anomaly. At worst, I mean, it's going to be some ongoing negotiation and issues over the next few

00:37:57.640 years. But what voters are deciding between the Liberals and the Conservatives for this election

00:38:05.720 is going to dramatically affect not only ourselves, but more importantly, the future

00:38:12.720 in the sense of our children and grandchildren. And that's what Preston is trying to make people

00:38:19.880 realize that, yes, be concerned about tariffs and the impact that'll have on our economy and the

00:38:27.120 economy of the United States. But don't make that all consuming and decide how you're going to cast

00:38:33.440 your ballot overlooking nine and a half years of destruction by Justin Trudeau. And I might add,

00:38:40.220 by all the people that supported him throughout that time, most of which are still in the cabinet

00:38:47.540 and the caucus and are running as candidates for Mark Carney. And, you know, so what's going to

00:38:54.480 change other than Mark Carney. And I would argue that if you do any research about this man,

00:39:00.720 he's going to be worse than Justin Trudeau. So think carefully before you elect someone like

00:39:05.520 that to direct Canada into the future. Absolutely. And we're seeing the usual social

00:39:11.760 media gotcha games and they're trying to create a scandal or make something, you know, we've seen

00:39:16.240 hiccups. Some candidates have been dismissed over past statements. It seems to be kind of

00:39:20.940 for the course nowadays in elections but there hasn't been any disasters on the conservative

00:39:26.580 campaign i mean it's been pretty solid you know steady but he also just hasn't landed any knockout

00:39:33.220 punches either though he's kind of struggling to grab oxygen uh in the news scroll i mean we know

00:39:38.740 that we've got a biased legacy media which is a large part of his problem too i mean we saw on

00:39:43.100 the cbc the other day they cut off carney mid-sentence to move away on to or i mean uh

00:39:46.800 polyev i should say mid-sentence to move on to something else they would never dare to do that

00:39:50.140 with a liberal speaking up, but some people are putting faith in the debate.

00:39:55.280 You know, Dave mentioned that, a commenter mentioned that.

00:39:57.520 That might be the opportunity where Paulyev can get out to Canadians,

00:40:01.480 hopefully, and endear himself to them.

00:40:03.820 Well, I agree, and I think that to the extent possible,

00:40:08.520 Pierre is trying his best to offer hope to Canadians at a time when,

00:40:13.180 not only because of Trump, but because of the legacy of nine and a half years

00:40:17.960 of Trudeau at a time when Canadians are struggling, really difficult times, being the cost of

00:40:25.340 living, raising children, the worry about crime in our streets and, you know, on and on and on.

00:40:31.560 And he's trying his best to offer hope. And I think that hopefully, to coin a word, I mean,

00:40:39.340 hopefully that will come through in the debate. Of course, the other problem that I want to raise

00:40:43.980 here on the show is that while we all put some hope into how that might unfold on debate

00:40:51.300 night, in particular the French debate because of Carney's lack of command of the French

00:41:00.760 language, but in both debates, it'll partly depend on how they structure the debate itself.

00:41:12.560 Will there be a real opportunity for Carney and Polyev to go head to head in debate similar to what they would have on the floor of the House of Commons during question period?

00:41:24.760 That's what people are looking for.

00:41:26.860 Even people that support Carney want to see how he would stand up to that level of debate.

00:41:32.560 Because Lord knows whether he's on the leader of the official opposition or, God forbid, the prime minister, he's going to have to go through that type of trial by fire in the House of Commons.

00:41:46.480 So let's see how he does.

00:41:48.480 But of course, the people that control the debate control how it's going to unfold.

00:41:53.920 And so I'm not, you know, assured by any stretch that there will be an opportunity for Pierre to really go eyeball to eyeball and toe to toe with Mark Carney.

00:42:05.720 Well, that's an interesting point because the American system is a two party system.

00:42:09.280 So the debates are going to be one on one and they can have it out up here.

00:42:12.640 You can really, and we saw that in the last debate, have a distraction when you've got Jagmeet Singh, who's irrelevant in there.

00:42:18.440 and you've got Elizabeth May who's insane in there 1.00

00:42:20.620 and they distract from any straight out discourse

00:42:24.240 and often they spend more time

00:42:25.560 where everybody just kind of turns their guns

00:42:27.060 on the conservative candidate rather than one-on-one.

00:42:30.180 And I could see that sort of thing building up now,

00:42:34.120 even if it's not purposeful.

00:42:35.440 I mean, they both, those parties have seats in the House.

00:42:37.440 They should be there at the debate,

00:42:38.700 but it makes it difficult to see a one-on-one

00:42:41.160 between the two people

00:42:41.920 who really are contending to be prime minister.

00:42:44.460 Exactly.

00:42:45.080 And that's always been a problem.

00:42:46.580 At least I would say it had always been a problem with our debate system.

00:42:52.960 It's fine to have those types of debates, but there should be an opportunity to have a good, fulsome debate between the two individuals that are running to be the prime minister of the country.

00:43:04.720 And it's a failing of our system that that doesn't happen, you know, because that's what people are looking for.

00:43:12.240 They're looking for, okay, we've got this issue with the United States currently, with Trump.

00:43:19.340 We've got an issue where a large segment of the Western population is uncertain about what they will do if the Liberals win, I would argue.

00:43:30.040 And they want to see those two individuals put forward their plan for Canada.

00:43:36.660 And right now, the legacy media, as you mentioned, is protecting.

00:43:41.640 They're trying their best, I would argue, to make Carney the current Teflon man, where nothing sticks to him.

00:43:51.320 And so he's had his missteps, unlike Pierre.

00:43:55.020 But do the media keep bringing it up like they would if it was a conservative, like they did with Stephen Harper?

00:44:03.420 Of course not.

00:44:04.320 As you say, they just avoid those types of discussions by and large and get the odd one.

00:44:11.140 And so let's hope that there is an opportunity during the debate for Pierre to land some blows and that it makes people hesitate and say, okay, wait a minute.

00:44:24.200 I really need to think about where I'm going to mark my X before I go behind the cardboard.

00:44:30.480 Absolutely.

00:44:31.300 Well, Canadian's got a lot of thinking to do. 0.99

00:44:33.120 let's let's hope that everybody's paying attention over this next couple of weeks and just you know

00:44:36.960 thinks carefully before they make their x i know that can sound patronizing when you've got a

00:44:41.040 leaning but you know just seriously look at the issues look carefully and just think what's best

00:44:45.440 for you uh you know we've got our preferences but i suspect if people look carefully they'll

00:44:50.640 probably feel a little more inclined to vote conservative than perhaps they used to be but

00:44:54.080 we'll see so i think i sure hope so gory because i think as many people well always say it seems

00:45:02.400 like during an election campaign.

00:45:04.220 This is the most important election in our history.

00:45:07.680 But in this particular instance,

00:45:09.640 I believe as Preston is trying to show

00:45:12.020 with his guest column,

00:45:13.760 that it is very important.

00:45:15.580 And in fact, it might impact

00:45:18.240 the future of the nation itself.

00:45:20.440 It most definitely will.

00:45:22.260 Well, thank you very much for joining us today, Jay.

00:45:24.980 It's always great to have you on.

00:45:26.120 Hope we can see you soon

00:45:26.880 when you do come back to the Great White North Fair

00:45:28.840 and have another conversation.

00:45:30.240 and uh i'll let you get back to that that sunny weather and uh making the canadian case down there

00:45:35.600 south of the border for us okay thanks cory all right thanks yeah we're moving quick today guys

00:45:41.220 we've got a lot of guests always great to get jay on he adds a good perspective and he's you

00:45:45.060 know i don't like to talk about his age too much but he's got a whole lot of experience and a whole

00:45:49.140 lot of time enduring the house of commons that he can share with us as a former conservative

00:45:53.580 government house leader so uh it's fantastic when we can get him on all right let's go provincial

00:45:59.140 now and talk to our man at Edmonton, James Snell. He's been writing some great stories and

00:46:05.340 covering things from the Alberta perspective. How are you doing, James?

00:46:09.760 I'm well, Corey. Good to see you.

00:46:12.060 Yeah, it's about time we got you on the show. I've been wanting to for quite a while. I've

00:46:15.980 been enjoying your stories from up there.

00:46:18.420 Yeah, thank you very much.

00:46:21.180 Maybe to begin with, I guess, kind of your first part of getting into covering the election and so

00:46:25.940 on, kind of shows some of the difficulties the media is having when it's coming, independent

00:46:30.400 media in particular, when it's coming to get access to liberal candidates, liberal events,

00:46:35.660 or even just getting decent liberal answers. Mr. Carney didn't appreciate your input a little

00:46:40.460 while ago. Nor did thousands of left-wing Canadians who filled my inbox with hateful

00:46:50.060 messages, Corey, but certainly I was removed by Mark Carney's handlers when he launched his

00:46:59.920 campaign for liberal leader here in Edmonton. So, you know, kicked out by the cops. But after that,

00:47:07.440 I attended an announcement that he gave in Edmonton several weeks after, and I was permitted

00:47:16.060 to ask a question. And I believe I asked a fair question of him that was regarding the expenditure

00:47:22.300 of taking a government wide body jet to Europe with his wife when he had not received a mandate

00:47:27.100 in an election from taxpayers. So he didn't like that. You know, it was, I think it was an important

00:47:33.040 question to ask, but, you know, you know, in all fairness to him, he did let me ask a question

00:47:39.040 that time around. Well, and that's good. I guess it's unfortunate. I mean, to be fair, I watched

00:47:45.380 the other exchange too you gave a little bit of a loaded question to start with but welcome to

00:47:48.940 election time you know you're going to get some tough ones uh but the the it's interesting you

00:47:54.800 bring that up and i know i mean anybody who's been in in uh independent media or general media

00:47:59.320 uh the keyboard warriors that can go bananas out there and you've really got to have a thick skin

00:48:04.540 to do this now and it's you know we know that most of the threats and so on are not serious

00:48:10.360 it's just some basement dwelling neckbeard down out there somewhere but all the same i mean it

00:48:15.040 can get tiring and it is really an undemocratic effort to try and shut down alternative voices.

00:48:20.320 It's not a good thing. You know, Corey, and I agree. However, the Western Standard is really

00:48:28.180 not an alternative voice anymore. Our viewership and readership is through the roof beyond many

00:48:36.760 other media outlets. So I think we're doing a good job and I think we're doing an honest job.

00:48:43.960 and often writing stories and asking questions that other media outlets would not.

00:48:50.100 Well, absolutely. I mean, it's important. I mean, there's realities.

00:48:53.200 Different outlets have a bit of a different inclination,

00:48:55.720 though we try to keep our news copy absolutely as clean as possible.

00:48:59.460 And that's why it's so important to have press access to as many outlets as possible

00:49:04.160 to get in on these kinds of events just to kind of bring in questions from different perspectives.

00:49:09.400 It's good to hear that, you know, they came in and gave you another question in a future event.

00:49:12.880 have you got more scheduled ahead of you? Not so far. We're waiting for candidates to show up in

00:49:21.360 Edmonton, so it'd be Pierre Polyev, Mark Carney, perhaps he'll come here again, and Jagmeet Singh,

00:49:28.380 who knows if he will show up. Yeah, we'll see. So, I mean, among news going on up there,

00:49:35.820 an interesting sort of story of a Liberal candidate kind of in and out. We had Rod Loyola

00:49:40.500 leave the Alberta NDP caucus for folks who aren't familiar with him or watching the show.

00:49:46.960 He's been in the legislature for quite a while, though. He's quite an extreme character. He always

00:49:52.240 has been. He became the Liberal candidate to replace the Randys. And then he got kicked out

00:49:57.740 as a candidate shortly after. What happened there? So he, I believe that was Edmonton Gateway,

00:50:02.380 not Edmonton Centre. Oh, okay. I thought it was. Yeah, no problem. But yeah, it's a strange story.

00:50:09.420 and very likely an extreme disappointment for him.

00:50:12.820 He was a sitting MLA for the NDP here in the Alberta legislature.

00:50:17.240 Then he pivoted over to become a candidate for the Liberal Party of Canada

00:50:23.200 under leader Mark Carney and was removed recently as a candidate.

00:50:29.800 So we don't know who will replace him.

00:50:34.300 So there's, you know, it seems like there's a revolving door

00:50:38.280 of interesting characters that are sort of coming and going from candidacy right now.

00:50:44.340 Well, that leaves the NDP in an unusual spot. Would Nehendenshi, you think, say, well, go for it,

00:50:50.700 Rod, you can run in your own by-election to replace yourself now that you've vacated that

00:50:54.740 seat? Or, you know, where do you go with that? Because the NDP kind of ends up with egg on

00:50:59.280 their face out of that too. Yeah, Corey. So I have spoken with Alberta NDP leader,

00:51:08.140 Nahid Nenshi regarding his affiliation with the federal NDP and he told me that he differs in

00:51:17.140 almost every single way from Jagmeet Singh. So that speaks volumes and begs the question

00:51:25.100 are traditional or habitual NDP voters in Alberta going to support the federal NDP

00:51:34.900 or will they pivot over to Mark Carney

00:51:40.360 and the Liberals?

00:51:43.800 Yeah.

00:51:45.020 And I mean,

00:51:45.960 Minchi's been kind of staying out of the federal race,

00:51:49.880 which is probably good for his own sake.

00:51:52.280 And I don't think anything's going to help Jagmeet Singh

00:51:55.160 at this point and things,

00:51:56.780 but we just got a lot of oddness going on up in Edmonton.

00:51:59.680 And because if the polls are to be believed though,

00:52:01.380 there's a number of seats that might be in play up there,

00:52:03.540 even though it's Alberta,

00:52:04.900 Sohi, who is the mayor of Edmonton, you know, now there's another interesting case. So he's

00:52:10.820 taken a leave of absence. So he wanted to make sure he doesn't end up unemployed like

00:52:14.060 Loyola did, but he's running for member of parliament.

00:52:19.660 That's correct. In Edmonton Southeast. And this is by virtue of his position, a political heavy

00:52:29.040 hitter. So that seat, it could very well go to the Liberals, Corey, but we'll see how that plays

00:52:40.160 out. There's also Edmonton Centre, and that is former MP Randy Boscano's writing, or former

00:52:54.160 cabinet minister i should say so i don't believe the liberals have chosen um a candidate there yet

00:53:02.320 so that's very much in play and then what about heather mcpherson i mean she she's an ndp member

00:53:08.800 of parliament in edmonton uh pretty pretty far left among even the ndp caucus certainly took some uh

00:53:16.800 stances on the israel issue that's annoyed me to say the least but do you think she might fall

00:53:21.760 victim to the NDP collapse in support? That's difficult to say. Edmonton Strathcona is an

00:53:28.460 NDP stronghold. So, you know, I would say she stands, you know, a fairly good chance

00:53:36.420 of being reelected. But then we also have, like you say, we have to also consider,

00:53:41.560 you know, what's going on with federal NDP leader Jagmeet Singh. This is not a popular guy right now.

00:53:49.800 certainly among Conservatives, but potentially also among the political left in Canada.

00:53:57.220 Yeah, I mean, you win or lose basically based on the central party leadership,

00:54:04.580 whether you like it or not. I worked on a couple of campaigns before, one of which where I was

00:54:10.800 managing a campaign for a Wildrose candidate. We were leading in the polls, leading in the polls,

00:54:15.100 and then the party sort of fell apart and we lost to an NDP candidate who only showed up on weekends

00:54:20.940 and didn't even live in the constituency whereas we ran a very solid campaign locally but

00:54:26.380 realistically if your own party collapses there's nothing much you can do about it and McPherson

00:54:31.440 might be at risk of that. Right and we should be looking at what's going to happen in Calgary and

00:54:37.860 Edmonton. These cities have seen a massive influx of people from other provinces. Tens of thousands

00:54:45.760 of people have really flooded into Calgary and Edmonton. And so the question is, how are they

00:54:52.580 going to vote? And are they going to vote for Mark Carney? Are they going to vote NDP? I don't know.

00:55:03.580 and then uh further i mean you've got a couple of hats on with you being up there you're watching

00:55:09.920 the legislature things have been kind of uh overwhelmed i guess with everything that's

00:55:14.760 going on south of the border and in ottawa but at the same time we've got a an embattled premier

00:55:20.860 in alberta who's really trying to get some policy through and in the legislature and uh

00:55:26.380 she's burning the candle on three ends as well what's going on up there right now

00:55:30.520 Well, she's not embattled anymore, Corey. I can tell you that right now. She has been vilified and demonized for making multiple trips down to the States to visit Trump and others to advocate for Alberta. She's been ridiculed for it, called a traitor for it. But that's not true anymore.

00:55:46.360 as we've seen that there is a very good chance that all of those efforts have actually paid off

00:55:51.640 and um you know we can't know for sure though but uh she's certainly not in battle anymore

00:55:57.400 and the ndp has been vociferous in their in their criticism of the premier but i think many of those

00:56:03.560 voices will be silent now and they will possibly just pivot back to the alberta health services

00:56:09.960 uh controversy which uh right now at this point uh with everything going on uh in north america

00:56:15.800 around the world is a bit of a dead duck so i don't really know where the ndp is going to go

00:56:21.240 in question period next week because you know the premier's just not embattled anymore

00:56:28.360 so speaking of that you know kind of as we move to the end here and your your provincial coverage

00:56:33.160 though that i mean that's going to be the dominant story probably is the alberta health services uh

00:56:37.960 a mess that's going on there with procurement contracts for people watching from outside of

00:56:41.720 of Alberta. There's been quite a blow up going on there. And what timeline is going on? Because

00:56:48.160 I mean, that's going to go on until we've seen some of these inquiries and investigations wrap

00:56:52.920 up. And that's going to be a while yet. Well, if I were the premier and her staff, I would drag this

00:56:57.520 entire thing out into the next mandate. That's what I would do. It's difficult to say

00:57:06.840 what will happen just in terms of that conversation.

00:57:12.220 You know, there are other things going on in Alberta now,

00:57:16.720 and we can't forget that Premier Smith has threatened,

00:57:22.660 in a roundabout way, a potential national unity crisis

00:57:26.220 if Alberta's needs are not met.

00:57:29.340 So if Mark Carney continues, if he becomes Prime Minister,

00:57:33.480 If he continues the policies of Justin Trudeau and Gibault, then there's going to be a brand new, or maybe I should call it a recycled conversation about Alberta sovereignty.

00:57:49.960 And so depending on who becomes prime minister, that will affect the dominant conversations in provincial politics in Alberta.

00:58:01.460 So I guess, you know, before I let you go, you've got a heck of a lot to cover and do up there,

00:58:08.440 and you've been doing great so far. Have you got any stories on the burner? What are you following

00:58:12.100 in the federal election right now? Well, yesterday was a very interesting day for sure, Corey, with

00:58:19.880 respect to NDP leader Jagmeet Singh, who was associating himself and appearing to have a

00:58:28.700 great deal of fun with an OnlyFans porn creator in Vancouver. Is this a sin necessarily? Is having

00:58:41.800 fun on a campaign bus a sin? No, it certainly isn't. They're having more fun certainly than

00:58:47.200 Mark Carney and Pierre Polyev. But we also need to think that what if this was someone on Pierre

00:58:55.180 poly abs bus i can tell you it would make international headlines there would be an

00:58:59.580 uproar in canada there would be an up it would it would spread all around the world and so you know

00:59:05.180 what seems like you know a sensational story or a sensationalized story it actually isn't um you

00:59:13.500 know we we always try to make our our reports and our writing engaging so that people will enjoy

00:59:19.420 reading content that is real. But, you know, as I covered, uh, Singh and yesterday and his

00:59:26.060 involvement with this young lady, you know, I really did ask myself like, what if this was

00:59:31.960 a Pierre Polyev campaign bus? Well, the proverbial poop would have hit the fan. I could tell you

00:59:37.800 right now. And so that's why I wrote those stories. Oh yeah. And we, we've got to look

00:59:42.720 at everything anyways. And sometimes we need a little bit of the, the light, uh, and as well

00:59:46.800 to point out the parallels. I mean, likewise, to be fair, had it been Carney with the same issue,

00:59:51.060 it would have been big news as well. I mean, the other reality is Singh's just not a contender for

00:59:56.080 prime minister. So then it's easy to kind of dismiss it as a sideshow at this point rather

00:59:59.920 than take it too seriously. But it sure isn't an unusual story. Yeah, absolutely, Corey. And,

01:00:06.100 you know, I've met Jagmeet Singh. He's a very nice individual, but being a nice individual is not

01:00:12.760 going to save him necessarily in the upcoming election. That's for sure. No, no, nice guys

01:00:19.220 don't always finish first. And it's just, I don't see how he can stop from anything beyond treading

01:00:24.020 water. Well, thanks. I really appreciate you coming on and to look forward to more of your

01:00:28.700 coverage coming from out of Edmonton. And I appreciate what you've written so far. So thanks

01:00:33.060 for joining us and keep up the good fight there, James. You're welcome, Corey. Thank you very much

01:00:37.940 for the opportunity and look forward to chatting

01:00:39.860 again. Great, thanks. So that

01:00:41.980 is from our Legislative Bureau

01:00:43.800 there, James Snell. And yeah, watch those

01:00:45.860 stories. He's been prolific and doing a

01:00:47.880 fantastic job up there in Edmonton. As I said,

01:00:50.140 you know, we're independent media.

01:00:52.240 We're covering things. We're doing

01:00:53.840 well. But

01:00:55.480 you know, we

01:00:57.780 got to put a lot of hats on. So James is covering a

01:00:59.880 federal and a provincial beat up there and

01:01:01.760 doing a fantastic job while he's

01:01:03.900 at it. So yeah, you know, getting on this election,

01:01:06.180 what was the commenter, James

01:01:07.720 uh measure mentioning i believe because we're talking what's going to move these polls what's

01:01:12.280 happening with these polls a lot of people saying maybe it's going to be the debate very possibly

01:01:17.240 and an element that's gonna be different in the debate is as james said that the block is going

01:01:21.560 to be attacking carney and you know that's going to be another element that's going to be interesting

01:01:26.200 to watch because that he's right the difference before was everybody turned their guns on the

01:01:33.000 the conservative, you know, in past debates. And Blanchett, he's kind of speaking of, again,

01:01:37.580 of kind of likable politicians in a way. I mean, he speaks for Quebec. He makes no bones about it.

01:01:42.400 He doesn't care about the rest of the country. He's there for Quebec, Quebec only, and that's

01:01:45.900 what he does. You don't have to like it, but you can respect it. And they were doing all right

01:01:51.120 before. But now the bloc is kind of joining the NDP in this free fall in the polls. And if you

01:01:57.980 look at polls in Quebec, the conservatives, I mean, they're not terribly strong there,

01:02:02.440 but they've been okay. But along a lot of the polls where the conservatives have dropped a

01:02:05.600 fair amount, in Quebec, actually, they've stayed kind of solid. But what's happened is the bloc

01:02:10.380 has plummeted along with the NDP, and again, the liberals have become the beneficiaries of that.

01:02:15.740 So I don't think Blanchet's going to waste time going after Pollyov in the debates. He needs to

01:02:23.800 chip away at the liberals. He needs to go after Carney. And during the French debate, he's

01:02:28.060 definitely going to have an opportunity to do that. You know what he's going to do. He's going

01:02:32.280 to speak quickly in French. He's going to use large words in French because he knows that Carney's

01:02:37.340 French is weak. And when you're in a live debate, it's very difficult to keep up. So he's really

01:02:42.760 going to hammer on them. Likewise, Polly have. So during the French debate, I think Carney is

01:02:48.080 really going to be put on the, in the pressure cooker there. Whereas he wasn't so much in the

01:02:54.560 past ones or the liberal leader wasn't so much anyway yeah Carney wasn't there before so the

01:02:59.720 French debate's going to be worth watching I mean they're both going to be worth watching and

01:03:02.800 for people concerned about the conservative future and thinking that the debates might be where those

01:03:07.240 undecideds or people are just going to make their minds up well these are going to be some very 0.64

01:03:11.640 well-watched debates so I'm going to go over a few of the polls they're all over the darn map

01:03:17.540 and that's what makes it difficult to believe any of them so the the CBC I'll start with that one

01:03:23.840 because they've got an aggregator.

01:03:25.140 And I know it's the state broadcaster.

01:03:26.920 We don't have much faith in their leanings.

01:03:29.340 And fair enough, especially when Kearney has just offered them

01:03:31.900 another $150 million, I believe, on top of their, what,

01:03:35.780 $1.5 billion bloody dollars.

01:03:38.060 So, you know, it's hard to have faith in their goodwill.

01:03:43.460 But they've got an aggregator for their polls on the CBC.

01:03:46.420 And you can see the Liberals, what they feel is sitting now at 43.6%,

01:03:50.560 conservatives at 37.7 and this is what they put together from a number of polls new democrats at

01:03:57.240 8.2 again irrelevant just it bottomed out the block 5.5 now that's got to be read differently

01:04:03.180 of course because they're concentrated all in quebec but i do believe they were typically more

01:04:06.940 like eight or nine percent percent because they would contest a lot more seats within quebec and

01:04:13.400 they are really hurting in there now the greens they're just the greens they're they're going to

01:04:16.620 have their few little strongholds they're sitting at two percent people's party you know two percent

01:04:22.820 even even worse than the greens as far as that goes because the bottom line is there is not a

01:04:26.960 single seat in canada where the people's party is close to contesting to to make a win they might

01:04:32.920 be make an impact there's going to be some strong candidates here and there they might become a

01:04:36.260 spoiler and a few things to keep in mind for conservative candidates but they they're just

01:04:40.900 not really a factor in this one aside from people who want to vote i guess on a principle that are

01:04:45.740 frustrated with the conservatives from the right-hand side of things. But that's what we're

01:04:49.900 seeing on one end of the polls with the things. And as I said, there was another one with the

01:04:54.300 pollster I'm not as familiar with. They're innovative is the name of them. And they showed

01:04:59.580 the conservatives leading by a point. But again, I mean, look at the graph here. And this graph

01:05:05.320 looks similar to just about every pollster though, where again, the conservatives used to be leading,

01:05:09.840 the Liberals used to be in the toilet, a sudden spike in Liberal support, along with, you can see

01:05:16.180 that orange line down there, the decline of the NDP. See, the Conservatives haven't fallen so much

01:05:21.980 as the NDP and the Bloc have just collapsed, and it's gone to the Liberals. A person who would have

01:05:27.500 voted for Democratic Socialists, as ironic as that term is, they're not going to turn around and join

01:05:33.620 the Conservatives. That's just not the way they go. So if they're going to make a strategic vote,

01:05:38.040 if they're going to do a pragmatic vote, they're going to go liberal. So this one, again, is showing

01:05:44.540 them in a horse race, neck and neck. So, I mean, we're talking a 10-point difference between two

01:05:50.480 different polls. I'm going to pull up Nanos just to get a third example going on in here. 0.64

01:05:55.160 They're similar to the aggregate that the CBC brought in. They're showing, again, the liberals

01:06:00.540 sitting at 44, 45 percent support, and the conservatives about 37. It's not looking good,

01:06:07.540 guys for the conservatives. They got some very serious ground to make up because you've got to

01:06:13.260 choose your polls on vote efficiency as well. Some have more and some have less. That's why I'm

01:06:18.820 saying too, you know, we don't have a proportional representation, you know, the People's Party

01:06:24.840 might pull 2% of support. They're not going to get 2% of the seats. They're not going to get any

01:06:29.640 seats. And unfortunately, the liberals typically are actually more efficient. If it was tied neck

01:06:35.140 and neck in a race all across the country, the Liberals would probably win the election with a

01:06:40.220 minority at least because they just tend to win more seats based on that amount of vote where

01:06:44.420 it's concentrated. So some ground has to be cleared. But again, if you can have different

01:06:50.260 pollsters showing such a widespread, as I said, abacus, I don't have an image for, but they've

01:06:56.020 been somewhat favored, favorable to the conservatives. They're showing a liberal lead

01:07:00.240 now, though narrow, but they're still five, six points different than the others. So these things,

01:07:05.740 you know, Marie Perrin saying, I don't believe the polls, they're biased. Well, yeah, they're the best

01:07:09.980 we've got, but we can't read too much into them. They're moving too much. One thing, when you see

01:07:15.140 all of the polls, no matter who they are, showing such a spike like that too, though, what it does

01:07:20.080 show is the electorate is volatile right now. They are grumpy, they're changing their mind quickly,

01:07:26.480 they're being reactive and that means that the poll can change pretty quickly in the other

01:07:32.800 direction depending on events as well so you can only you know again as people say they're a

01:07:36.980 snapshot of the moment often that's a slow trend right now we're seeing spikes so a whole lot could

01:07:43.440 happen and a whole lot can change in very short order we're one issue or one scandal away from

01:07:48.100 that line changing or going more strongly up depending on what happens i mean we haven't seen

01:07:53.380 a serious

01:07:54.800 scandal. You know, we've seen

01:07:57.540 people trying to make one, you know, all

01:07:59.480 over the place, screaming about the efforts

01:08:01.440 of individual candidates. Some candidates are kicked out

01:08:03.300 for this, kicked out for that.

01:08:05.260 Nothing that's really moving the needle.

01:08:07.760 This latest story, Dave mentioned

01:08:09.620 too, Mark Carney's father

01:08:11.280 was a principal, I guess, at a

01:08:13.540 residential day school.

01:08:15.720 Made some pretty controversial

01:08:16.880 statements

01:08:19.100 a long time ago to the CBC.

01:08:21.460 You know, this is one of the areas where

01:08:23.480 I'm not big on this.

01:08:25.100 It's his father.

01:08:26.680 I understand people say, okay, Kearney's father would have had an impact on Kearney,

01:08:30.900 and Kearney's behavior and values would be reflected on that later.

01:08:34.160 Yeah, I guess a fair, you know, a bit.

01:08:36.340 And likewise, when people went after Kearney's daughter and brought her up,

01:08:39.600 I just don't like bringing the family members of the politicians into it.

01:08:44.900 I really don't.

01:08:45.860 I don't think in this case it's terribly directly relevant.

01:08:49.480 I can see why it's being reported on.

01:08:50.960 You know, whatever.

01:08:52.340 I just, I want to focus more on the politicians themselves.

01:08:57.700 I, it's just a more principled way to go.

01:09:00.920 And I think it's a more accurate way to go.

01:09:02.260 I understand you can read in on how those things have impacts.

01:09:04.980 I just don't necessarily think it's where we should be focusing either way.

01:09:08.980 It's an item of interest and people are certainly reading up on it and whether or not it impacts

01:09:13.840 the fortunes of, of, uh, uh, Carney or not.

01:09:18.460 I doubt it will with too much, but boy, it sure shows, it shows the language of the past too,

01:09:25.240 though. And a little bit of tit for tat, which is fair enough with the woke who go bananas and so on 0.94

01:09:31.100 over some comments or historical figures for things they said 50, 60, 70, a hundred years ago.

01:09:37.100 So Carney's father had said some things about, you know, Negroes and, and using terms that we

01:09:42.240 just don't use any longer. But it was during a CBC interview of all things back then, because at

01:09:47.920 that time uh it was just the accepted terms but we can't hold people to the same you know

01:09:57.060 expectations and values today by what they said back then we've got to stop doing that and that's

01:10:03.180 been a trick of the left to pull that stunt and beat on uh historic figures and other people i

01:10:08.140 don't think two wrongs make a right not you know i don't know if carney's dad was an odious racist

01:10:12.900 character or if he was just a man speaking of older times but i'm more concerned about what's

01:10:17.860 going on right now and what the current politicians are saying. Wilder is asking a question. What's

01:10:23.200 my prediction for the federal election? Yeah, I put that out on X. And again, I mean, those are

01:10:27.320 throwing the dart at the board. I'm still going to stand by where I was, where I was a week ago.

01:10:32.820 I think it's going to be a liberal minority. I won't mind if I'm wrong. And I tell you what,

01:10:37.860 when I'm making a prediction halfway through an election, I'm throwing a dart at a board. I'm

01:10:42.320 not basing that on solid information. That's just a gut feeling, which wouldn't be the first time

01:10:48.880 I've been wrong in predicting an election. So that's where I'm sitting right now, but that can

01:10:53.240 most definitely change. Something else that worries me a bit on this, as I said, if we're

01:11:00.680 looking at the demographics, again, polls, we know they lean, they do things. And I mentioned this

01:11:04.960 last week, is the past liberal support used to be more among the younger people. Trudeau, when he

01:11:12.300 first got in 2015 his base was younger people they wanted a fresh face they want somebody in

01:11:16.780 and seniors and so on tended to support conservative well right now we're still

01:11:20.900 seeing the same thing it's the boomers who are supporting the uh liberals right now it's the

01:11:26.820 older people supporting the liberals and the younger people still supporting conservatives

01:11:30.000 well that's nice the problem is when i'm talking about effective votes and concentrating votes and

01:11:34.900 and uh getting into places older voters are far more inclined to get out to vote that's part of

01:11:41.400 why in the past conservatives were often underrepresented in polls because the polls

01:11:45.120 would show the conservatives behind by a few points behind by a few points. And then when

01:11:48.040 the election happens, the conservatives get a few more points higher than what was pulled.

01:11:51.880 Well, that's because yes, one thing for a person to answer a phone and say, they're

01:11:55.740 going to do one thing or another. And it's another for those who actually get off their

01:11:58.460 butts and go out and vote. And young people aren't that great for getting off their butts 0.99

01:12:02.440 to go out and vote. They're more easily distracted. So they don't tend to be a more efficient voter 0.95

01:12:06.880 for you. They're an important voter. Of course they are. But that's how polls get affected.

01:12:11.560 But so that's where I worry that the conservatives aren't being as underrepresented in these polls

01:12:15.880 as people hope they are, because the demographic isn't sitting in their favor for that now.

01:12:20.460 But we'll see. Dan Hadfield saying, just to be contrarian, you say there's no such thing as a

01:12:24.640 democratic socialist. Given what I hear, there aren't many democratic conservatives. Well, yeah,

01:12:30.800 I mean, respect for democracy is something that can be a fleeting thing. And a lot of people want

01:12:36.240 to shut things down left right uh they they don't like critique i still like to think the

01:12:41.140 conservatives right now are valuing um democracy more than the liberals there's nothing worse than

01:12:45.880 the entitlement of being in power too long and that's something i i talked about on on wednesday

01:12:51.640 on my show and i got a column coming out to speak of it we we need to turn over governments now and

01:12:56.820 that we need to if the conservatives have been in for 10 years you know i doubt i'd vote liberal i

01:13:00.860 never have but i can understand where people will be okay they've had enough of them it's time to

01:13:04.980 turn them over and get some fresh faces and you have to because that's when you start getting

01:13:08.000 every party gets it the buddy contracts are going on the the inside trading some of the corruption

01:13:14.660 or just some of the cynicism a lot of members are just mailing it in for a pension by that point

01:13:19.380 and it doesn't matter which party you've got to kick them out and flush them out now and then

01:13:23.240 it's healthy for democracy and those ones who are entrenched or were in there again whether it's

01:13:27.940 left or right they tend not to want to leave so they're going to do whatever they can and use

01:13:33.440 whatever is at their disposal to keep themselves in those positions. So we get a little anti-democratic

01:13:39.460 with some of that stuff too. And the bigger worry though, as I said, with Albertans getting upset

01:13:46.460 and frustrated, we kind of put up with the Liberals because everybody's kind of under the

01:13:50.980 understanding, okay, nine, 10, 11 years maybe, but they're going to get flushed out and we'll get a

01:13:55.660 break from them. And, you know, we will see that turnover. But right now we're saying, oh, 10 years

01:14:00.420 of some of the worst government we've ever seen and then holy cow you guys are looking to give

01:14:04.760 them a whole fresh start and possibly another four to ten years with Carney. So that's what

01:14:10.100 Jay Hill was talking about. That's what Preston Manning was talking about. There is a lot on the

01:14:13.740 line with this election because that agreement will have been broken. If we aren't flushing the

01:14:17.580 pipes after nine years of a government that bad, how can anybody hold any hope for positive change

01:14:22.300 coming in the longer term? What does it take, right? That's the question people are asking.

01:14:26.280 what does it take? All right, let's talk to Peter Coleman of the National Citizens Coalition. That'll

01:14:31.800 be the first time we've had Peter on. And again, kind of like Franco, these are people very busy

01:14:37.020 right now with a whole lot to cover. So thank you for joining us today, Peter. Thanks, Corey. How

01:14:42.000 are you today? Pretty good, actually. I mean, I talk about the negative and I rant and I rave and

01:14:46.600 I go on. But for politicos, I mean, this is like our Super Bowl, right? This is the time to really

01:14:51.460 pay attention to things and uh hoping for the best yeah it's a crazy time i think you know i

01:14:58.100 listened to your preamble coming into this and i think you're right in a bunch of things

01:15:02.260 what i do find interesting though cory is the uh the rallies that paulia's had in ontario in the

01:15:07.140 last week uh 5 000 or so in hamilton in a union town 6 500 last night in oshawa and i really

01:15:16.020 think this time cory the younger generation is going to vote um that's part of our strong

01:15:20.660 campaign the ncc and to get the boomers to change their mind i realize that 10 years more of uh the

01:15:26.340 liberals we can't afford but there's a lot of young people in ontario that gets to give your western

01:15:31.060 listeners hope that are incredibly motivated to vote that would have voted for trudeau in 2015

01:15:35.940 because they wanted pot legalized as an example and they're increasingly tired because pocketbook

01:15:41.060 issues matter to them and they don't see a future yeah well and if the youth can be galvanized they

01:15:47.460 can be very effective going farther back and ahead and then she won calgary as a i believe at the

01:15:51.940 start of the mayoral campaign at like four or five percent you end up pulling a win out of it we're

01:15:56.100 going back about 14 years or so but it was mostly based on a very galvanized and well organized

01:16:03.380 vote of young people getting out and getting to the polls so i i was speaking in broad terms of

01:16:07.540 how people vote but you're absolutely right if they can get out they can make a big impact yeah

01:16:13.060 i think that's the case too i think what you're going to see now too is like everybody expected

01:16:16.820 i'm actually surprised that the liberals got a bigger bump as they did but the conservatives

01:16:20.820 have been sort of 35 to 38 to 40 percent pre-carney um but it's also the case now that as you said

01:16:27.300 earlier cory the ndp votes collapsed which is an irony because if uh if singh had the guts to call

01:16:34.340 an election the liberals would have got wiped out now it's the ndp they're getting hurt badly so

01:16:39.140 there's a lot of things moving around and still a lot of time left yeah well and as i was saying

01:16:44.180 thing with the polls when they when they can go up that fast it means they can come down that fast

01:16:47.640 too we've got a very very unpredictable uh electorate right now but you know i mean part

01:16:53.060 of the thing that's frustrating is we've got that that uh big factor south of the border that's

01:16:57.520 beyond everybody's control uh which is donald trump and and he really is driving the issues

01:17:02.640 do you think maybe though we we saw his his big announcement on tuesday while there's still a lot

01:17:08.900 of challenges a lot of negotiations a lot of things that are going to happen he didn't add

01:17:12.480 any more on canada like he didn't inflame it any further at least do you think he might stop being

01:17:18.840 as much of a factor well cory when you predict what donald trump can do for all of us you let

01:17:23.540 me know okay um oh i'm not being trying to predict him i'm just trying to predict uh you know how

01:17:28.120 much of a factor he would be in in the the next few weeks of the campaign i guess i mean

01:17:32.480 i think i think i think it's the elephant in the room and i think it's an unknown but what i find

01:17:36.760 incredibly frustrating is why do people think carney's the best person to deal with trump

01:17:41.140 he's a globalist he's elitist he's a net zero guy he's so tied up in brookfield it's just

01:17:46.500 there's so many things that you would think that trump would not like about carney

01:17:50.240 and i don't like the fact that that carney's talking about what he's gonna do about the

01:17:54.760 states no one made you prime minister other than your party he shouldn't be talking about the deals

01:17:59.920 and the fact that the long-term relationship with states is ruined yes it's very damaged but

01:18:04.480 i think there's time to save it and who says carney's the best to deal with trump i don't buy

01:18:09.120 it no absolutely i mean i've been kind of wondering that myself and my theory on it's

01:18:14.600 just been again maybe just when people again it was such a full bore sort of assault on our economy

01:18:19.160 from trump that people are more inclined to just go to what they feel is stability and that's the

01:18:23.980 party that happens to be in power i think if the conservatives had happened to have been in power

01:18:27.600 at that point they'd be riding that same wave because they're like well i'm getting behind

01:18:31.460 our prime minister and i'm going to support him in the face of that threat and the liberals would

01:18:36.060 be suffering it's just a fluke of timing sort of i think it is too but more people shall watch you

01:18:41.000 and western stand in cbc cory hey i keep trying to tell them that we're working on it yeah i know

01:18:46.100 and he continually do well because i just don't think i don't see why that uh carney's the best

01:18:52.300 person to deal with with trump and i it is the wild card and i'm glad to see paulia pivot a bit

01:18:57.040 could be a little tougher in this conversation but at the end of the day you've still got a

01:19:01.080 relationship with the states no matter who wins coming forward and for carney to be saying well

01:19:05.680 we're just going to pivot, start selling all our product to Asia and Europe.

01:19:09.440 It's not that simple. It's not that easy. It's going to take a long time.

01:19:12.600 So you've got to keep some relationship with the States.

01:19:15.120 And I think Daniel Smith done a very good job in being that kind of person for

01:19:18.940 Canada and doing that.

01:19:21.240 Yeah. And, and Paul, you've got put in a difficult position. I mean,

01:19:26.420 there's a segment to the conservative base that that's very sympathetic and

01:19:29.800 supportive of Donald Trump. It's, it's a weird sort of a overlap of supporters

01:19:33.420 within Canada and they're very fanatically so. And I mean, speaking for myself as a more classical

01:19:39.060 liberal, uh, libertarian conservative, I was critical of Trump, for example, on social media

01:19:44.660 and all they went bananas on me. You know, I lost a thousand followers on X and so on,

01:19:49.820 whatever. It's not a big deal to me, but if you're a person running for prime minister,

01:19:53.240 you don't want to inflame a group of your supporters. If you can avoid it, even if it's

01:19:58.620 10% of your support or not. So he had a tougher time taking a tough stance with Trump because

01:20:03.400 because it could actually still hurt him a little bit when it really counts.

01:20:06.620 Yeah, I think that's true, Corey.

01:20:08.220 But I also think there's a level you've got to make sure you're going to put forward

01:20:11.300 what you're going to do when you become foreign minister.

01:20:13.680 And I think Paulie has done a very good job in his campaign of laying things out,

01:20:17.800 and he's increasingly sort of narrowed his focus on what's going to happen

01:20:21.140 with the relationship with Trump.

01:20:23.100 And I think that issue is going to matter.

01:20:25.420 It's going to be a big issue.

01:20:26.220 But we have other bigger things to deal with in the country as well.

01:20:30.420 And I don't think you've seen a single thing from the Liberals right now that they're any different now with Kearney than we're in the last 10 years.

01:20:37.240 No, Kearney's not going to change anything. 0.96

01:20:39.060 He's surrounded by that same group of clowns that Justin Trudeau was. 0.99

01:20:43.740 Unfortunately, he's smarter than Justin in a way. 0.99

01:20:46.260 That makes it more disturbing because he's just as ideological.

01:20:50.320 He still is hung up on net zero and some of those policies, emissions caps and C69, which are going to harm the Canadian economy.

01:20:57.100 But it just doesn't seem to matter to people.

01:20:58.800 So getting back to the National Citizens Coalition, though, I mean, there's an organization with a nice, rich history of, you know, keeping citizens informed and working on things.

01:21:07.440 It's where Stephen Harper resided as a time in the role heading that organization.

01:21:12.780 What campaign have you guys got going on?

01:21:14.900 How are you working throughout this election?

01:21:17.040 Well, we're trying in this.

01:21:18.260 We've got a partnership with Western Standard, which we're very thankful for for the next little bit.

01:21:21.920 we're trying to get the message out to people that we need change, and we need different,

01:21:27.140 we need real change coming forward. We're trying to go after the younger generation, 1.00

01:21:31.620 which is under the 40 group, which you see in the polls, Corey, being higher than the

01:21:35.440 Liberals, and try and get the boomers that are sort of wavering, Liberal or not, to sort of say,

01:21:39.940 you can't afford 10 more years of this nonsense. And to be honest, I'd rather people vote for the

01:21:46.840 NDP than vote for the Liberal. We'd like that NDP vote to rise up as well. And I think there's

01:21:51.740 still a lot to be going on before it's over, Corey. I think you said earlier those debates are

01:21:56.080 going to matter. We're trying to focus on that. We're trying to stay positive with what they think

01:22:00.400 that the issues are that matter more to Canadians. It's a lot more than just Trump. And yes, he's the

01:22:05.300 elephant in the room in too many ways, but we're trying to educate people across the spectrum that

01:22:10.580 we can't afford what we have dealt with the last 10 years. The country deserves better, deserves

01:22:16.140 pipelines? Is there security? Is there financial integrity? None of the things that the liberals

01:22:21.820 have done. And the most hypocrisy you could ever see, Corey, is this carbon tax being cancelled.

01:22:29.420 The sky was falling. The world's going to end if we don't keep the carbon tax. Canada's 1.6%

01:22:35.260 of the world's greenhouse gases. All of a sudden, they're going to get their butt handed to an 0.96

01:22:39.100 election, so they cancel it. And they're trying to take credit for it? It's just astounding.

01:22:43.660 oh yeah the rhetoric in the past was so torqued i mean you were called an earth destroyer global

01:22:49.900 boiling if you did not support that carbon tax you were supporting the burning of our children

01:22:55.500 it was insane and then suddenly okay i guess we don't need it yeah but we've been supporting

01:23:00.780 pipelines if we want to solve that there are 1.6 corey you know as well as i do we need to ship

01:23:05.820 liquefied natural gas to india and china and to europe and that's the way we're going to solve it

01:23:10.700 because we're not going to get to zero we're we're a cold country we're always going to have

01:23:15.020 a level of that and for the liberals to be focusing on that soul and all of a sudden

01:23:19.180 that doesn't matter anymore like it's as brian moroni would say there's no who are like an old 0.99

01:23:25.580 whore and it's just we're seeing we're seeing that now with the liberals now and how they're 0.98

01:23:29.980 behaving with the carbon tax well it's funny you know and mulroney got away with saying that back 0.93

01:23:34.300 then could you imagine if a conservative leader used that term now i mean all you have to say is

01:23:37.660 biological clock ticking and you lose two days of the news cycle uh just to get to that point you

01:23:43.420 know i mean polio's got a very hostile legacy media there's no doubt about that they've been

01:23:48.220 torqued they've been on his case they've been selective with what they cover they're giving

01:23:52.060 nothing but puffers to uh uh carney's group out there but that amplifies the importance of third

01:23:59.740 party and independent groups at least getting messaging out there during campaigns too like

01:24:03.980 the taxpayers federation and you guys with the citizens coalition right and i think you're seeing

01:24:08.300 i i think cory a bit that blooms off the road because you could hate trudeau for all you

01:24:12.620 wanted to and there's lots of reason to do he was good in the campaign trail um carney's like

01:24:19.420 the criticism of paulia in the in the day i think he's loosened up a bunch was he was boring and

01:24:24.220 stiff well paulia's boring and stiff i don't know what carney is because he's like a he's like a wet 0.58

01:24:29.740 rag on the campaign trail he comes across as the elitist and we're trying to tell people there is

01:24:34.780 hope there's still an opportunity and we have to keep fighting because i don't believe the polls

01:24:38.940 are as bad as they are and i think they're going to tighten even more and the debate's going to

01:24:43.660 matter so we're trying to present the common sense responsibility things like we've talked about

01:24:48.540 fiscal the military needs to be built back up and all the things that we should have been doing as

01:24:52.220 a country before reviewing our foreign aid to make sure it's appropriate all those things there's

01:24:57.260 billions of dollars that can be put towards our military developing the arctic developing pipelines

01:25:02.300 and that's the message we're going to stay on a very positive message and i think the media is

01:25:07.420 going to become tougher on um on carney maybe not as tough on paulia when you're right there but

01:25:12.700 i think paulia is handling the middle the uh media brilliantly so far to be honest yeah well

01:25:18.380 and i was talking about that kind of earlier in the show that you know we i haven't seen any uh

01:25:23.180 missteps on the part of the conservative campaign you know you see the little blips the hiccups but

01:25:27.020 But there's been no catastrophe or anything.

01:25:29.760 He's just having trouble getting traction.

01:25:31.760 And part of it, too, I think, though, as you said, Kearney is dull as dishwater.

01:25:36.960 But people were ready for change.

01:25:38.320 And Kearney, as far as personality, reflects the opposite of Trudeau. 0.99

01:25:44.060 Trudeau was the tongue-hanging-out clown. 0.99

01:25:46.300 He was the shallow man. 0.99

01:25:47.560 He was the showing off his socks and other things.

01:25:51.020 I think people felt a little more, you know, they could gravitate towards that dry, straight-faced

01:25:57.180 man who was standing up there. Again, it doesn't mean it's a better candidate, but just instinctively,

01:26:02.640 and instinct is how a lot of people vote sometimes. That's kind of what Carney brought to them,

01:26:06.340 a mature figure after nine years of something of a clown.

01:26:10.880 I think that's true, but his policies are going to matter too. I mean, the fact that Orange Man 0.74

01:26:15.580 is bad, it won't be enough, I don't think, for Carney to win. He's going to try and run that

01:26:19.140 pony to the end but the policies of matter and i've heard nothing from paulia from carney i mean

01:26:24.120 i'm not sure you have cory that shows you different than the policies of uh of trudeau

01:26:28.320 and i think at the end of the day people are going to say if more people say we deserve a

01:26:33.100 change because we're not better off then i think paulia wins and if it's stuck on trump then i

01:26:38.440 think that the uh the liberals will win but i think we i think we can move that off trump a

01:26:42.320 little bit well i think i hope some people will also realize that i don't think it's really going

01:26:49.320 to matter that much which of those two faces off with trump because as you said trump's going to

01:26:54.360 do whatever the heck trump is going to do he's he's got his own uh vision whatever that might be

01:27:00.120 good bad or indifferent and he's going to push forward with it no matter who the canadian prime

01:27:04.720 minister is so kind of remove that aspect from what you're looking at in a leader and you're

01:27:10.780 seeing a lot more pluses with polyev who's put forward policy ideas versus as you said uh carney

01:27:16.820 who's just trying to keep weak on policy and say orange man bad he doesn't really want to slush

01:27:21.740 out i mean does he cory it just seems like it's just it's just more of the same i mean i i wish

01:27:25.760 there were some visionary policies some carney but they don't have them as you said earlier it's

01:27:30.340 the same cabinet the same clowns that are there that have done a terrible job before and they want

01:27:34.820 to run it back and i i think it i think we have to keep the focus on the on the on the policy

01:27:39.800 because you're a thousand percent right we've already got a free trade deal with the americans

01:27:44.440 and that if that doesn't matter now it doesn't really matter who's going to be trying to deal

01:27:48.520 with trump because it's like trying to grab jello some days yeah that was a term i heard

01:27:53.080 somebody else on a radio interview is he's like trying to nail jello to a wall yeah it's just

01:27:58.200 difficult so i mean again take sort of set that uh you know people should try and set that aside

01:28:03.720 and i mean the thing that worries me with carney people are saying oh he's a pragmatist you know

01:28:07.800 That's why, yeah, basically he just grabbed the entire conservative policy book because it looked practical all of a sudden.

01:28:13.320 But he's an ideologue, and people can't forget that.

01:28:15.560 They've got to look at what Carney was writing years ago, what he was promoting years ago.

01:28:20.900 Ideologues don't change their stripes that easily.

01:28:23.940 He is still fixated on net zero.

01:28:25.880 He's still fixated on carbon taxes as the means to get there.

01:28:29.380 I don't know why people are suddenly trusting him.

01:28:31.640 He would not be the first politician to get in with a majority and just basically go back on every part of his word once he gets in there.

01:28:37.800 And that's part of our messaging. If your supporters want to go to nationalcitizens.ca, our website, Corey, they can see a lot of the ads and the videos we've put out.

01:28:46.560 And that's laying out exactly what you're talking about, what Carney's done and what he's most likely to do.

01:28:51.840 And part of our role is to educate people and try and get through that fog of the CBC where there's a voice out there saying, well, wait a second, CBC doesn't have all the right answers.

01:29:00.500 In fact, they've got very few.

01:29:01.520 um and we're trying to get that message out to people that will look past that filter of cbc and

01:29:07.140 say okay let's look at the facts and the realities and i don't think carney lines up very well when

01:29:12.320 people do that no well and let's let's hope i mean a campaign is kind of a long time it goes fast and

01:29:18.680 it drags out at the same time uh people often don't really give it a close scrutiny until the

01:29:23.980 tail end the debates again are tend to be that real tipping point for for true swing voters i

01:29:28.780 I mean, there's a lot of people that they're just not going to move one way or another, you know, no better who's in there.

01:29:33.960 But the swing voters, the ones who truly are in the mushy middle, they often see the debate as the time when they're going to kind of wake up, turn off the sitcoms and pay a bit of attention before they make up their mind to vote.

01:29:43.580 So it's going to be a very critical event, I think.

01:29:46.660 Corey, if we were able to move the Conservative vote up four and level down four, we'd have a different conversation.

01:29:53.520 I think that's the challenge right now.

01:29:55.540 the debates galvanize people and i think people think that carney's the smartest guy in the room

01:30:00.340 but what happens if paulia just does a fantastic job and comes across as personable and it's like

01:30:06.580 you know i know i know stephen harper really well because i work with him he was a very personable

01:30:10.980 guy when he wanted to be and got out there in front of people and in a debate people would say

01:30:15.540 actually i can vote for harper i got no problem with him the media is telling me he's really

01:30:19.140 boring and dour and has no personality he's got lots of that and i think that the same thing with

01:30:24.020 Apoliev. Apoliev comes across as calm, relaxed, very knowledgeable, and can go toe-to-toe with

01:30:29.940 Carney on the so-called academic part of the conversation. People might say, well,

01:30:35.060 maybe Carney isn't the smartest guy in the room. Well, and there's the likability factor too,

01:30:39.860 which is just tough. It's just the nature of people and the role they're in at the time.

01:30:45.320 I've always liked Stephen Harper, but when he was prime minister, he would come across as a bit

01:30:49.880 cold, introverted, careful. And I saw him, I don't know, a few months back at a Fraser Institute

01:30:55.100 event. And he was so much more relaxed. It's so much easier to be a former prime minister than

01:31:00.640 an aspiring or a current prime minister. And he was much more candid and relaxed. And that makes

01:31:06.560 him much more likable. It's a little different when you're on the front lines. And that's where

01:31:09.680 Polyev is right now. So it's a little harder for him to loosen the tie and, you know, reach people

01:31:16.620 that way but you know he's not necessarily as uptight as my people might think no and i think

01:31:21.620 having paulia's wife's a rock star i think having her in the campaign trail she's a very bright lady 1.00

01:31:26.440 and i think uh their relationship is is one that we should all admire and they're back both their

01:31:31.640 backgrounds and i think that's her in the campaign trail softened him up you see him smiling a bit

01:31:37.640 more he seems he's really enjoying these rallies and if he can take that attitude cory into these

01:31:41.940 debates and come across as is that person of a guy in difficult times with the right ideas and

01:31:46.980 i think that those debates could really make a difference well especially when i mean there's

01:31:52.480 sort of two factors that'll happen when they've got policies that both look very similar again

01:31:57.340 because the liberals basically just kind of plagiarize the conservative playbook but then

01:32:01.800 it comes down to personality and trust do you like the other one more than the other or then do you

01:32:06.620 trust the other one more than the other and and uh i'm surprised so many people are trusting

01:32:11.960 carney at this point but that can change well we hope and it's as you said it's hard to get

01:32:17.160 through that filter for uh poly but in the campaign the media i think in the past little

01:32:21.500 bit corey started to cover more poly of sound bites um at first it was all currently all the

01:32:26.820 time and i think that's getting a little fair because in campaign they have to cover both sides

01:32:31.500 a bit and poly or conservative will never get that fair ground you know that as well as i do but

01:32:37.040 Um, I think his ideas resonate more with people than, uh, than Carney's.

01:32:40.700 And I think that, uh, there's still lots of time left.

01:32:43.180 I'm optimistic still.

01:32:44.780 Oh, absolutely.

01:32:45.600 It's just halfway and things do change.

01:32:48.080 All right.

01:32:48.380 Well, before I let you go, where can people again, find your, your work and, and

01:32:51.500 follow what you guys are doing and, uh, support it if they may.

01:32:54.240 Yeah.

01:32:54.560 Our website is nationalcitizens.ca and you can find all our videos and ads and

01:32:59.100 campaigns and really what we're all about.

01:33:00.680 And, uh, my email's on there.

01:33:02.760 People want to talk to me directly and, uh, I appreciate your time.

01:33:06.620 Great. Well, thank you again. I see we got the wrong label underneath you there is Jay Hill, but it is Peter Coleman of the National Citizens Coalition. And yes, it's an organization that's been around for a long time. And it's very, it's important. I mean, outside organizations getting beyond media, getting others just to get that information. The information is so essential. So thanks for coming on to talk to us today. And hopefully maybe we can talk again before the end of the campaign and see where things are rolling.

01:33:32.460 That'd be great, Corey. Thanks for having me on. Have a great day.

01:33:34.980 Yeah, you too.

01:33:36.060 Bye-bye.

01:33:36.620 Bye. So one more time. Yeah. Peter Coleman of the National Citizens Coalition. Check them out. And they've been there a long time. As J.R. Michael's saying, yeah, an effective organization. And they put out good info. I mean, there's a lot of them out there. It's a battle for information. And even if stuff seems dry, it's important. And they package it up well. National Citizens Coalition, the Taxpayers Federation. You want to get more into the studies in depth too. You know, there's groups like Fraser Institute and others that put out such important stuff because we're not getting it from the legacy media.

01:34:05.720 You know, something else interesting out of the whole thing, I was watching Rosie Barton and her interaction with Carney early in the thing.

01:34:16.000 And again, that visceral response, you know, when I had James Snell talking earlier too on the feedback he got, how much the swarms came after him when he questioned Carney at a media event.

01:34:27.480 And then it was even more blasphemy, though.

01:34:29.720 I mean, it's one thing for a Western Standard reporter to question Carney,

01:34:32.300 but for a CBC reporter to dare question Carney, that's disturbing, actually.

01:34:39.780 That's very disturbing.

01:34:40.920 And there were petitions.

01:34:42.260 There were moves to have Rosemary Barton fired from the CBC

01:34:45.280 because she once dared to hold a liberal candidate's feet to the fire. 1.00

01:34:52.840 It shows the entitlement.

01:34:54.300 it shows how the the hard hardcore liberal supporters just feel that their people are

01:34:59.380 above question and not only that that the cbc should know its place and not dare to hold

01:35:05.800 liberals to account it also shows when carney turned around to give another 150 million or

01:35:10.020 he's offering another 150 million to the liberals he's buying love that's the danger we have right

01:35:16.060 now you know and again let's pat ourselves on the back or do a little bit of self-serving that

01:35:19.720 that's why it's important to support independent media like us we don't take the tax dollars

01:35:24.080 So we'll hold governments to account no matter who they are.

01:35:28.260 That's part of the deal that's going on.

01:35:30.220 The legacy media is afraid that Polyev is going to cut the subsidies.

01:35:34.460 Polyev's already said he's going to cut the CBC.

01:35:37.260 So they have a self-interest in keeping Polyev out, 1.00

01:35:41.360 and that's a dangerous place for the media to be in.

01:35:44.320 And I tell you what, at least speaking for myself,

01:35:46.220 if Polyev wins, becomes the prime minister, we still don't take tax dollars.

01:35:49.420 And you know what? If Polyev screws up his prime minister down the road,

01:35:52.260 wrote, I'm going to be all over them like a fat kid on a smarty, just as much as I am on the case

01:35:58.700 of the liberals when they screw up. Because it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter to my paycheck 0.80

01:36:02.740 because we aren't subsidized. That's why independent media is so important. And I mean

01:36:07.880 independent on the left and right. There shouldn't be any subsidies going to any media.

01:36:12.980 You should just leave it there. Look how bad it's gotten. We've laughed about it. It was a joke,

01:36:17.660 But, you know, where they took somebody as insane as Rachel Gilmore and made her a fact checker for one episode anyways with CTV. 1.00

01:36:27.400 Who even thought that was appropriate?

01:36:29.700 This was a hyper partisan individual they put into a fact checker position. 0.98

01:36:35.020 It was ridiculous.

01:36:37.660 And this is where the media is sitting, though.

01:36:41.220 so again the importance of independent media and as i said and these groups to get that information

01:36:47.320 through to people there's some of the interesting thing that's happening though we've got

01:36:50.780 the media monopoly is gone it's not like it was 30 years ago where the only place you could really

01:36:57.420 get news was your television or a newspaper or the radio those were your sources you know the

01:37:01.580 internet was barely getting out of the gate still so the thing that made that balanced at least

01:37:07.920 though, was there were dozens and dozens of newspapers. They were that thick. There were

01:37:12.060 all those channels with reporters all over the place covering things, and there was some balance.

01:37:16.120 I think there was a lot that always leaned left, but all the same, there was some balance. There

01:37:19.200 were some that leaned right too. Newspapers were huge. They had revenue. They could afford

01:37:23.160 columnists of all different political stripes to cover all those issues. They don't have that

01:37:27.320 anymore. So just some of the other talk on things before I go, you know. Again, talking about

01:37:34.200 factors that uh impact the race that are beyond the control of the leaders so the job numbers in

01:37:41.540 canada are terrible they just came out it showed massive job losses now the irony is those things

01:37:48.360 move more slowly typically the reason for that plummet a lot of the reason for that plummet is 0.92

01:37:52.240 a decade of crappy liberal management but the liberals are going to blame that on trump

01:37:57.320 and they'll get away with it uh you know and they can use him as a bogeyman to blame for every one

01:38:05.020 of their bad policies and we're in for an economic kick in the knackers right now and some of that

01:38:10.180 is the fault of from actually a good part of it look at the markets they have crashed they have

01:38:15.640 plummeted they have been slammed because yes one of the biggest economies in the world has decided

01:38:20.760 to go to economic war with the entire world and it's hurting everybody but it shouldn't impact

01:38:27.160 our votes here is guys we've got the same candidates saying they'll try to deal with

01:38:30.420 things locally as well as they can because neither of them are going to have I think

01:38:34.080 any more or less impact on Trump than the other so then look beyond that part because we want to

01:38:41.780 see what the Canadian policies are going to be one of the bigger ones then fine like Trump don't

01:38:46.000 like Trump what he did was expose how vulnerable we are with having only one customer for a lot

01:38:50.380 of our products and everybody kind of got it clear even in Quebec the majority even if the

01:38:56.240 the block members and so on aren't supporting it support getting pipelines to the east coast and

01:39:00.940 west so we can send energy products overseas to different customer bases everybody kind of agrees

01:39:06.500 wow that's a good idea you know what because we just don't know how steady our customer south

01:39:10.560 anymore is is anymore let's diversify our customer base the problem is only polyev i think will have

01:39:18.740 the balls to actually get it done carney's already been caught in double speak he's already he said

01:39:24.240 I'm going to get it to the coast. Oh, but I'm not getting rid of Bill C-69. For people not familiar 0.93

01:39:28.040 with C-69, that's the anti-pipeline bill. If he's not getting rid of that bill, there's never going

01:39:33.880 to be a pipe. So Carney's lying. He's lying. That's what I'm talking about. The ideology is

01:39:37.860 trumping, odd use of terms, I guess, but yes, you know, is overpowering principle. He is an

01:39:46.280 anti-oil and gas guy just as much as Trudeau was, if not more. But he's willing to lie to get in,

01:39:52.580 to get into power. And then he'll say, I'm going to get that pipe to the coast, but he won't. As

01:39:56.980 long as C-69 is there, it'll be strangled and mired up in regulation and BS, and it'll never

01:40:02.260 get done. You need somebody who's actually going to get it done. And that's not carny. So if we do

01:40:08.220 want to insulate yourself more from Trump, fine. Well, that looks like Polyev is the person to do

01:40:15.360 it because you want to get that increased access out there. Likewise, another area that not enough

01:40:20.380 people have talked about, I wrote about that in a past column elsewhere, is our ports. I mean,

01:40:27.120 if you're talking about exporting anything from Canada, it's got to go through a port eventually.

01:40:31.080 Canada's ports are terrible. Vancouver is notorious, one of the most inefficient ports

01:40:36.340 in the world, actually. One of the worst. A lot of Canadian products get shipped down to Seattle

01:40:40.920 and then brought up by train because Vancouver is so bad. Why is it so bad? Well, corruption,

01:40:46.400 Teamsters Union, Longshoremen's Union.

01:40:48.680 They've got some serious, serious issues at that port.

01:40:51.560 I don't know if Paliyev will have the courage to take that on,

01:40:53.460 but I tell you what, somebody's going to have to.

01:40:55.640 Somebody's going to take it on those corrupt unions, 1.00

01:40:57.180 fighting the automation and causing a lot of problems in those ports.

01:41:02.200 And, you know, it's not going to become a campaign issue this time around.

01:41:06.020 But if either of those two, between Paliyev and Carney,

01:41:08.580 are going to have the courage to take on the unions,

01:41:11.720 I will put my money on Paliyev. 0.99

01:41:14.800 You've got to remember, Carney's beholden out of the NDP vote that fell his way.

01:41:18.200 The NDP are just courting the porn stars, I guess, now.

01:41:21.640 All right.

01:41:22.260 Well, that's enough for today, guys.

01:41:23.560 It's been quite a week.

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Western Standard - April 05, 2025

Week 2. Has the Conservative bleeding stopped？

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