In this episode of The Cory Morgan Show, host Corey Morgan sits down with a variety of guests to discuss the latest polling numbers and what's going on in the campaign so far. Plus, a look ahead to the upcoming debates.
00:06:57.940He made an announcement on domestic violence, basically.
00:07:02.160Intimate partner violence says things like if he's elected,
00:07:06.760that if you're charged with intimate violence and intimate partner violence
00:07:11.100and you get bail, you get an ankle bracelet so the cops can keep an eye on you.
00:07:17.360And he's going to make intimate partner murder, basically a right-of-way first-degree murder charge, none of this manslaughter, crime of passion stuff.
00:07:29.180So he was strong on domestic violence today.
00:07:36.220Well, you know, crime doesn't make election issues federally nearly enough.
00:07:40.860And I mean, I'm glad he's addressing it because it shows that he's addressing based on principle, not on, you know, internals or polling.
00:07:46.580because as much as citizens get upset between elections on crime,
00:07:49.540they never seem to make it an election issue.
00:07:51.600So I'm not probably I was bringing it up.
00:07:52.700Well, I think we're all upset with this catch and release stuff.
00:07:56.340And how many times have we written stories on offenders being released
00:08:00.100back into the community and days later they're already back in the slammer.
00:08:12.940Oh, I mean, this is just like gold, Jerry, gold.
00:08:19.080Yeah, Jagmeet was interviewed by a porn star from OnlyFans, you know, one who was pouring milk all over herself and all that sort of stuff.
00:08:29.140And she was actually on the campaign bus until it was pointed out by the media that, you know, you might want to rethink this.
00:08:38.640it's one thing to do an odd you know side podcast interview but when they're joining you on the
00:08:44.000campaign bus like they got a pole on the bus or something yeah they must have a one of yeah good1.00
00:08:49.200point i like this this porn producer is so weird she did we've got a story up on the site today
00:08:57.840when she was pregnant uh she went and got a uh an abortion pill and uh and had a had an abortion1.00
00:09:06.800and she put the fetus in a jar and was like displaying the fetus on camera and all that1.00
00:09:13.040sort of stuff which you know is he could get her in legal trouble because it's a crime to
00:09:18.400commit an indignity against a body and apparently fetuses are classified as human remains so
00:09:24.320this is the type of mentality that jagmeet seems to uh to attract uh the big story on our site all
00:09:31.840week has been one by Sean Polzer called Pipeline Paradox in which Brookfield
00:09:40.900Brookfield Investments, who as you know was until recently chaired by one Mark
00:09:46.340Carney, is in the process of buying a ten billion dollar pipeline in the United
00:09:50.860States. So it's the same Mark Carney that says he's going to keep Bill C-69, the
00:09:56.820no more pipelines bill yet his business which he still owns millions of dollars worth of shares in
00:10:03.200is buying up pipelines like what's going on well you know i mean it's almost a show on its own like
00:10:09.600some of the older discussion though we've had some strange funding to the anti-pipeline activists
00:10:14.480and groups that keeps pouring out through tides and other you know american groups to try and
00:10:19.460shut down canadian oil and gas development people have found that there's sometimes if you trace it
00:10:23.420Far enough, American oil company interests, they don't want Canada developing more of this stuff,
00:10:28.320so they're sort of incentivized to shut down Canadian stuff.
00:10:31.500Now, whether or not that ties all the way around to Kearney, who knows.
00:10:35.340But, I mean, when you're running millions in a pipeline in the United States
00:10:37.920and then you're opposing a pipeline in Canada, it kind of smells funny.
00:30:11.220So something that's kind of started to come up throughout this race and you mentioned
00:30:15.540it earlier when you're chatting uh preston manning popped up and spoke and uh i i think
00:30:20.380accurately maybe some people didn't want that question coming into this campaign but all the
00:30:24.120same there's some truth to it uh canada's unity is kind of at stake here big time and uh you know
00:30:30.680i applaud my former leader preston manning uh and uh you know his thoughts about this and sort of
00:30:38.680you know issuing a bit of a warning to voters that might not do the research necessary before
00:30:44.780they cast their ballot. You know, he said, and I'm going to quote from his guest column,
00:30:51.660he said, a vote for Kearney is a vote for Western secession, a vote for the breakup of Canada. Now,
00:30:58.060of course, since then, I think it was yesterday that Paulyev was asked about it, and he tried to
00:31:04.600distance himself a little bit from those comments. And, you know, he talked about how he believes in
00:31:11.100the unity of the country. And then more recently, when Carney was asked about it, he said, well,
00:31:18.580Preston Manning's comments were, quote, unhelpful and dramatic. Well, I would suggest to Mr. Carney
00:31:25.220and anyone else that takes exception to these comments by Preston, that they're supposed to be
00:31:31.200dramatic, because they're supposed to be a wake-up call that a lot of Westerners in particular, but
00:31:38.160But I think given the tremendous showing of support at these rallies, right from Newfoundland
00:31:44.960to British Columbia and points in between, you know, thousands upon thousands of people
00:31:51.020are showing up to hear Pierre Polyev's vision for where he would take Canada if he was fortunate
00:31:58.500enough to be elected and get a majority mandate.
00:32:02.760You know, so I think the comments are supposed to be dramatic.
00:32:05.740I think that voters should do some research, take a look at even excerpts from Mr. Carney's book, and learn about his views of how he intends to govern, given the opportunity.
00:32:22.940And if that doesn't scare the hell out of them, I don't know what will.
00:32:26.540Well, and you're a veteran of a number of campaigns.
00:32:29.400uh something i know campaigner really wants though you know putting on the campaign type hat aside
00:32:35.260from what's right or wrong is external events impacting the campaign because you can't control
00:32:40.940them you have to react to them rather than uh you know being the person driving the events and
00:32:46.420and i could see frustration for mr polyev when he's trying to do a national campaign and premier
00:32:52.920smith who again i agree with where she's coming from and what she's saying or again preston manning
00:32:57.960he's absolutely right with what he's saying, but boy, it kind of throws something into the
00:33:02.920punch bowl when those comments come up and they're trying to focus on policy releases.
00:33:09.060How does Mr. Paliyev deal with this? Well, I think he's dealing with it the proper way
00:33:13.800for a person in his position. You've just encapsulated, Corey, I think the dilemma that
00:33:20.140he has. I think that Pierre probably believes that Manning and Daniel Smith and Scott Moe in
00:33:27.060Saskatchewan are accurately portraying a large segment of the Western population when they view
00:33:34.060that another liberal win, I might add the fourth government in a row should Carney win, is just
00:33:42.340completely opposite to the direction that the majority of Westerners want to see our country
00:33:49.100go in. We believe very strongly that under Trudeau and with the support and advice from Mark Carney,
00:33:57.060uh they have all but destroyed the economy in particular of western canada but entire the
00:34:02.900entire nation and uh you know if the polls are to be believed at all uh the people that are going to
00:34:10.420vote for carney had better at least do the research necessary before they mark their ballot or we're
00:34:17.460going to see widespread from coast to coast to coast regret and buyer's remorse shortly after
00:34:26.020the election if uh if mr carney wins and that will also be manifested i believe in the situation with
00:34:34.820western secession i think that westerners have had enough of liberals at least for a while
00:34:40.100and they want to see some common sense government uh return to our nation yeah when polls have
00:34:46.420traditionally under underestimated conservative support both sides of the border even municipal
00:34:51.140and provincial elections there's been a lot of that happening but there's still some interesting
00:34:55.220trends happening right now and and it's just that that trump factor that nobody really prepared for
00:35:01.140and what i think it's led to is just my interpretation because something we're seeing
00:35:04.900in the polls which is really interesting though terrifying in a way i i believe people really
00:35:10.660rally the troops when they feel that there's been an external threat so they're kind of going to
00:35:14.100what they feel is comfortable or stable and that's why the bloc has plummeted in the polls
00:35:20.180and the ndp have plummeted people who would vote on principle for side issues feel that there's a
00:35:24.740a bigger threat coming from south of the border and they'd better move to the center to grab that1.00
00:35:29.300to head it off and that's again something that polyev can't counter very easily well that's
00:35:36.640exactly right i mean we all know that uh traditionally whether it was the reform party
00:35:42.220originally and then the canadian alliance and then the merger of uh of the canadian alliance
00:35:47.500and progressive conservatives that produced the existing conservative party of canada
00:35:51.540There's always been one party that I would argue of common sense, support for smaller government and larger private employment in our nation.
00:36:05.480And all the other parties are of the left of some form of socialism, bigger government, government programs, et cetera, et cetera.
00:36:14.840So when you get a meltdown of the two minor parties, the Bloc Québécois and in particular the NDP, which is, of course, a national party, that support is going to traditionally gravitate towards the Liberals.
00:36:34.740And that makes it even tougher for a Conservative Party, regardless of the leader, to win.
00:36:40.360But as I was saying, Corey, I think that Poliev is handling this business about the potential for Western secession properly.
00:36:50.100He has got to be opposed to discussion about that during the campaign, no matter what his internal beliefs are.
00:36:59.320because, of course, if he was to even mention any thought that, well, maybe Manning knows what
00:37:05.400he's talking about, he would be immediately attacked for trying to blackmail voters. And,
00:37:12.880you know, that would be a terrible strategy to be branded with. And so he's doing whatever he can
00:37:19.840to try and get the message back on the issues that he feels are important, which is affordability
00:37:27.720and housing issues and inflation and the cost of groceries and immigration levels and those
00:37:37.400all important national issues that to some extent are being overlooked because of this focus on
00:37:43.740Trump and tariffs, which by anybody's estimation will be a relatively short-lived, thank God,
00:37:51.920anomaly. At worst, I mean, it's going to be some ongoing negotiation and issues over the next few
00:37:57.640years. But what voters are deciding between the Liberals and the Conservatives for this election
00:38:05.720is going to dramatically affect not only ourselves, but more importantly, the future
00:38:12.720in the sense of our children and grandchildren. And that's what Preston is trying to make people
00:38:19.880realize that, yes, be concerned about tariffs and the impact that'll have on our economy and the
00:38:27.120economy of the United States. But don't make that all consuming and decide how you're going to cast
00:38:33.440your ballot overlooking nine and a half years of destruction by Justin Trudeau. And I might add,
00:38:40.220by all the people that supported him throughout that time, most of which are still in the cabinet
00:38:47.540and the caucus and are running as candidates for Mark Carney. And, you know, so what's going to
00:38:54.480change other than Mark Carney. And I would argue that if you do any research about this man,
00:39:00.720he's going to be worse than Justin Trudeau. So think carefully before you elect someone like
00:39:05.520that to direct Canada into the future. Absolutely. And we're seeing the usual social
00:39:11.760media gotcha games and they're trying to create a scandal or make something, you know, we've seen
00:39:16.240hiccups. Some candidates have been dismissed over past statements. It seems to be kind of
00:39:20.940for the course nowadays in elections but there hasn't been any disasters on the conservative
00:39:26.580campaign i mean it's been pretty solid you know steady but he also just hasn't landed any knockout
00:39:33.220punches either though he's kind of struggling to grab oxygen uh in the news scroll i mean we know
00:39:38.740that we've got a biased legacy media which is a large part of his problem too i mean we saw on
00:39:43.100the cbc the other day they cut off carney mid-sentence to move away on to or i mean uh
00:39:46.800polyev i should say mid-sentence to move on to something else they would never dare to do that
00:39:50.140with a liberal speaking up, but some people are putting faith in the debate.
00:39:55.280You know, Dave mentioned that, a commenter mentioned that.
00:39:57.520That might be the opportunity where Paulyev can get out to Canadians,
00:40:01.480hopefully, and endear himself to them.
00:40:03.820Well, I agree, and I think that to the extent possible,
00:40:08.520Pierre is trying his best to offer hope to Canadians at a time when,
00:40:13.180not only because of Trump, but because of the legacy of nine and a half years
00:40:17.960of Trudeau at a time when Canadians are struggling, really difficult times, being the cost of
00:40:25.340living, raising children, the worry about crime in our streets and, you know, on and on and on.
00:40:31.560And he's trying his best to offer hope. And I think that hopefully, to coin a word, I mean,
00:40:39.340hopefully that will come through in the debate. Of course, the other problem that I want to raise
00:40:43.980here on the show is that while we all put some hope into how that might unfold on debate
00:40:51.300night, in particular the French debate because of Carney's lack of command of the French
00:41:00.760language, but in both debates, it'll partly depend on how they structure the debate itself.
00:41:12.560Will there be a real opportunity for Carney and Polyev to go head to head in debate similar to what they would have on the floor of the House of Commons during question period?
00:41:26.860Even people that support Carney want to see how he would stand up to that level of debate.
00:41:32.560Because Lord knows whether he's on the leader of the official opposition or, God forbid, the prime minister, he's going to have to go through that type of trial by fire in the House of Commons.
00:41:48.480But of course, the people that control the debate control how it's going to unfold.
00:41:53.920And so I'm not, you know, assured by any stretch that there will be an opportunity for Pierre to really go eyeball to eyeball and toe to toe with Mark Carney.
00:42:05.720Well, that's an interesting point because the American system is a two party system.
00:42:09.280So the debates are going to be one on one and they can have it out up here.
00:42:12.640You can really, and we saw that in the last debate, have a distraction when you've got Jagmeet Singh, who's irrelevant in there.
00:42:18.440and you've got Elizabeth May who's insane in there1.00
00:42:20.620and they distract from any straight out discourse
00:42:46.580At least I would say it had always been a problem with our debate system.
00:42:52.960It's fine to have those types of debates, but there should be an opportunity to have a good, fulsome debate between the two individuals that are running to be the prime minister of the country.
00:43:04.720And it's a failing of our system that that doesn't happen, you know, because that's what people are looking for.
00:43:12.240They're looking for, okay, we've got this issue with the United States currently, with Trump.
00:43:19.340We've got an issue where a large segment of the Western population is uncertain about what they will do if the Liberals win, I would argue.
00:43:30.040And they want to see those two individuals put forward their plan for Canada.
00:43:36.660And right now, the legacy media, as you mentioned, is protecting.
00:43:41.640They're trying their best, I would argue, to make Carney the current Teflon man, where nothing sticks to him.
00:43:51.320And so he's had his missteps, unlike Pierre.
00:43:55.020But do the media keep bringing it up like they would if it was a conservative, like they did with Stephen Harper?
00:44:04.320As you say, they just avoid those types of discussions by and large and get the odd one.
00:44:11.140And so let's hope that there is an opportunity during the debate for Pierre to land some blows and that it makes people hesitate and say, okay, wait a minute.
00:44:24.200I really need to think about where I'm going to mark my X before I go behind the cardboard.
00:52:04.900Sohi, who is the mayor of Edmonton, you know, now there's another interesting case. So he's
00:52:10.820taken a leave of absence. So he wanted to make sure he doesn't end up unemployed like
00:52:14.060Loyola did, but he's running for member of parliament.
00:52:19.660That's correct. In Edmonton Southeast. And this is by virtue of his position, a political heavy
00:52:29.040hitter. So that seat, it could very well go to the Liberals, Corey, but we'll see how that plays
00:52:40.160out. There's also Edmonton Centre, and that is former MP Randy Boscano's writing, or former
00:52:54.160cabinet minister i should say so i don't believe the liberals have chosen um a candidate there yet
00:53:02.320so that's very much in play and then what about heather mcpherson i mean she she's an ndp member
00:53:08.800of parliament in edmonton uh pretty pretty far left among even the ndp caucus certainly took some uh
00:53:16.800stances on the israel issue that's annoyed me to say the least but do you think she might fall
00:53:21.760victim to the NDP collapse in support? That's difficult to say. Edmonton Strathcona is an
00:53:28.460NDP stronghold. So, you know, I would say she stands, you know, a fairly good chance
00:53:36.420of being reelected. But then we also have, like you say, we have to also consider,
00:53:41.560you know, what's going on with federal NDP leader Jagmeet Singh. This is not a popular guy right now.
00:53:49.800certainly among Conservatives, but potentially also among the political left in Canada.
00:53:57.220Yeah, I mean, you win or lose basically based on the central party leadership,
00:54:04.580whether you like it or not. I worked on a couple of campaigns before, one of which where I was
00:54:10.800managing a campaign for a Wildrose candidate. We were leading in the polls, leading in the polls,
00:54:15.100and then the party sort of fell apart and we lost to an NDP candidate who only showed up on weekends
00:54:20.940and didn't even live in the constituency whereas we ran a very solid campaign locally but
00:54:26.380realistically if your own party collapses there's nothing much you can do about it and McPherson
00:54:31.440might be at risk of that. Right and we should be looking at what's going to happen in Calgary and
00:54:37.860Edmonton. These cities have seen a massive influx of people from other provinces. Tens of thousands
00:54:45.760of people have really flooded into Calgary and Edmonton. And so the question is, how are they
00:54:52.580going to vote? And are they going to vote for Mark Carney? Are they going to vote NDP? I don't know.
00:55:03.580and then uh further i mean you've got a couple of hats on with you being up there you're watching
00:55:09.920the legislature things have been kind of uh overwhelmed i guess with everything that's
00:55:14.760going on south of the border and in ottawa but at the same time we've got a an embattled premier
00:55:20.860in alberta who's really trying to get some policy through and in the legislature and uh
00:55:26.380she's burning the candle on three ends as well what's going on up there right now
00:55:30.520Well, she's not embattled anymore, Corey. I can tell you that right now. She has been vilified and demonized for making multiple trips down to the States to visit Trump and others to advocate for Alberta. She's been ridiculed for it, called a traitor for it. But that's not true anymore.
00:55:46.360as we've seen that there is a very good chance that all of those efforts have actually paid off
00:55:51.640and um you know we can't know for sure though but uh she's certainly not in battle anymore
00:55:57.400and the ndp has been vociferous in their in their criticism of the premier but i think many of those
00:56:03.560voices will be silent now and they will possibly just pivot back to the alberta health services
00:56:09.960uh controversy which uh right now at this point uh with everything going on uh in north america
00:56:15.800around the world is a bit of a dead duck so i don't really know where the ndp is going to go
00:56:21.240in question period next week because you know the premier's just not embattled anymore
00:56:28.360so speaking of that you know kind of as we move to the end here and your your provincial coverage
00:56:33.160though that i mean that's going to be the dominant story probably is the alberta health services uh
00:56:37.960a mess that's going on there with procurement contracts for people watching from outside of
00:56:41.720of Alberta. There's been quite a blow up going on there. And what timeline is going on? Because
00:56:48.160I mean, that's going to go on until we've seen some of these inquiries and investigations wrap
00:56:52.920up. And that's going to be a while yet. Well, if I were the premier and her staff, I would drag this
00:56:57.520entire thing out into the next mandate. That's what I would do. It's difficult to say
00:57:06.840what will happen just in terms of that conversation.
00:57:12.220You know, there are other things going on in Alberta now,
00:57:16.720and we can't forget that Premier Smith has threatened,
00:57:22.660in a roundabout way, a potential national unity crisis
00:57:29.340So if Mark Carney continues, if he becomes Prime Minister,
00:57:33.480If he continues the policies of Justin Trudeau and Gibault, then there's going to be a brand new, or maybe I should call it a recycled conversation about Alberta sovereignty.
00:57:49.960And so depending on who becomes prime minister, that will affect the dominant conversations in provincial politics in Alberta.
00:58:01.460So I guess, you know, before I let you go, you've got a heck of a lot to cover and do up there,
00:58:08.440and you've been doing great so far. Have you got any stories on the burner? What are you following
00:58:12.100in the federal election right now? Well, yesterday was a very interesting day for sure, Corey, with
00:58:19.880respect to NDP leader Jagmeet Singh, who was associating himself and appearing to have a
00:58:28.700great deal of fun with an OnlyFans porn creator in Vancouver. Is this a sin necessarily? Is having
00:58:41.800fun on a campaign bus a sin? No, it certainly isn't. They're having more fun certainly than
00:58:47.200Mark Carney and Pierre Polyev. But we also need to think that what if this was someone on Pierre
00:58:55.180poly abs bus i can tell you it would make international headlines there would be an
00:58:59.580uproar in canada there would be an up it would it would spread all around the world and so you know
00:59:05.180what seems like you know a sensational story or a sensationalized story it actually isn't um you
00:59:13.500know we we always try to make our our reports and our writing engaging so that people will enjoy
00:59:19.420reading content that is real. But, you know, as I covered, uh, Singh and yesterday and his
00:59:26.060involvement with this young lady, you know, I really did ask myself like, what if this was
00:59:31.960a Pierre Polyev campaign bus? Well, the proverbial poop would have hit the fan. I could tell you
00:59:37.800right now. And so that's why I wrote those stories. Oh yeah. And we, we've got to look
00:59:42.720at everything anyways. And sometimes we need a little bit of the, the light, uh, and as well
00:59:46.800to point out the parallels. I mean, likewise, to be fair, had it been Carney with the same issue,
00:59:51.060it would have been big news as well. I mean, the other reality is Singh's just not a contender for
00:59:56.080prime minister. So then it's easy to kind of dismiss it as a sideshow at this point rather
00:59:59.920than take it too seriously. But it sure isn't an unusual story. Yeah, absolutely, Corey. And,
01:00:06.100you know, I've met Jagmeet Singh. He's a very nice individual, but being a nice individual is not
01:00:12.760going to save him necessarily in the upcoming election. That's for sure. No, no, nice guys
01:00:19.220don't always finish first. And it's just, I don't see how he can stop from anything beyond treading
01:00:24.020water. Well, thanks. I really appreciate you coming on and to look forward to more of your
01:00:28.700coverage coming from out of Edmonton. And I appreciate what you've written so far. So thanks
01:00:33.060for joining us and keep up the good fight there, James. You're welcome, Corey. Thank you very much
01:00:37.940for the opportunity and look forward to chatting
01:20:26.220But we have other bigger things to deal with in the country as well.
01:20:30.420And I don't think you've seen a single thing from the Liberals right now that they're any different now with Kearney than we're in the last 10 years.
01:20:37.240No, Kearney's not going to change anything.
01:20:39.060He's surrounded by that same group of clowns that Justin Trudeau was.
01:20:43.740Unfortunately, he's smarter than Justin in a way.
01:20:46.260That makes it more disturbing because he's just as ideological.
01:20:50.320He still is hung up on net zero and some of those policies, emissions caps and C69, which are going to harm the Canadian economy.
01:20:57.100But it just doesn't seem to matter to people.
01:20:58.800So getting back to the National Citizens Coalition, though, I mean, there's an organization with a nice, rich history of, you know, keeping citizens informed and working on things.
01:21:07.440It's where Stephen Harper resided as a time in the role heading that organization.
01:21:12.780What campaign have you guys got going on?
01:21:14.900How are you working throughout this election?
01:28:25.880He's still fixated on carbon taxes as the means to get there.
01:28:29.380I don't know why people are suddenly trusting him.
01:28:31.640He would not be the first politician to get in with a majority and just basically go back on every part of his word once he gets in there.
01:28:37.800And that's part of our messaging. If your supporters want to go to nationalcitizens.ca, our website, Corey, they can see a lot of the ads and the videos we've put out.
01:28:46.560And that's laying out exactly what you're talking about, what Carney's done and what he's most likely to do.
01:28:51.840And part of our role is to educate people and try and get through that fog of the CBC where there's a voice out there saying, well, wait a second, CBC doesn't have all the right answers.
01:29:01.520um and we're trying to get that message out to people that will look past that filter of cbc and
01:29:07.140say okay let's look at the facts and the realities and i don't think carney lines up very well when
01:29:12.320people do that no well and let's let's hope i mean a campaign is kind of a long time it goes fast and
01:29:18.680it drags out at the same time uh people often don't really give it a close scrutiny until the
01:29:23.980tail end the debates again are tend to be that real tipping point for for true swing voters i
01:29:28.780I mean, there's a lot of people that they're just not going to move one way or another, you know, no better who's in there.
01:29:33.960But the swing voters, the ones who truly are in the mushy middle, they often see the debate as the time when they're going to kind of wake up, turn off the sitcoms and pay a bit of attention before they make up their mind to vote.
01:29:43.580So it's going to be a very critical event, I think.
01:29:46.660Corey, if we were able to move the Conservative vote up four and level down four, we'd have a different conversation.
01:29:53.520I think that's the challenge right now.
01:29:55.540the debates galvanize people and i think people think that carney's the smartest guy in the room
01:30:00.340but what happens if paulia just does a fantastic job and comes across as personable and it's like
01:30:06.580you know i know i know stephen harper really well because i work with him he was a very personable
01:30:10.980guy when he wanted to be and got out there in front of people and in a debate people would say
01:30:15.540actually i can vote for harper i got no problem with him the media is telling me he's really
01:30:19.140boring and dour and has no personality he's got lots of that and i think that the same thing with
01:30:24.020Apoliev. Apoliev comes across as calm, relaxed, very knowledgeable, and can go toe-to-toe with
01:30:29.940Carney on the so-called academic part of the conversation. People might say, well,
01:30:35.060maybe Carney isn't the smartest guy in the room. Well, and there's the likability factor too,
01:30:39.860which is just tough. It's just the nature of people and the role they're in at the time.
01:30:45.320I've always liked Stephen Harper, but when he was prime minister, he would come across as a bit
01:30:49.880cold, introverted, careful. And I saw him, I don't know, a few months back at a Fraser Institute
01:30:55.100event. And he was so much more relaxed. It's so much easier to be a former prime minister than
01:31:00.640an aspiring or a current prime minister. And he was much more candid and relaxed. And that makes
01:31:06.560him much more likable. It's a little different when you're on the front lines. And that's where
01:31:09.680Polyev is right now. So it's a little harder for him to loosen the tie and, you know, reach people
01:31:16.620that way but you know he's not necessarily as uptight as my people might think no and i think
01:31:21.620having paulia's wife's a rock star i think having her in the campaign trail she's a very bright lady1.00
01:31:26.440and i think uh their relationship is is one that we should all admire and they're back both their
01:31:31.640backgrounds and i think that's her in the campaign trail softened him up you see him smiling a bit
01:31:37.640more he seems he's really enjoying these rallies and if he can take that attitude cory into these
01:31:41.940debates and come across as is that person of a guy in difficult times with the right ideas and
01:31:46.980i think that those debates could really make a difference well especially when i mean there's
01:31:52.480sort of two factors that'll happen when they've got policies that both look very similar again
01:31:57.340because the liberals basically just kind of plagiarize the conservative playbook but then
01:32:01.800it comes down to personality and trust do you like the other one more than the other or then do you
01:32:06.620trust the other one more than the other and and uh i'm surprised so many people are trusting
01:32:11.960carney at this point but that can change well we hope and it's as you said it's hard to get
01:32:17.160through that filter for uh poly but in the campaign the media i think in the past little
01:32:21.500bit corey started to cover more poly of sound bites um at first it was all currently all the
01:32:26.820time and i think that's getting a little fair because in campaign they have to cover both sides
01:32:31.500a bit and poly or conservative will never get that fair ground you know that as well as i do but
01:32:37.040Um, I think his ideas resonate more with people than, uh, than Carney's.
01:32:40.700And I think that, uh, there's still lots of time left.
01:33:02.760People want to talk to me directly and, uh, I appreciate your time.
01:33:06.620Great. Well, thank you again. I see we got the wrong label underneath you there is Jay Hill, but it is Peter Coleman of the National Citizens Coalition. And yes, it's an organization that's been around for a long time. And it's very, it's important. I mean, outside organizations getting beyond media, getting others just to get that information. The information is so essential. So thanks for coming on to talk to us today. And hopefully maybe we can talk again before the end of the campaign and see where things are rolling.
01:33:32.460That'd be great, Corey. Thanks for having me on. Have a great day.
01:33:36.620Bye. So one more time. Yeah. Peter Coleman of the National Citizens Coalition. Check them out. And they've been there a long time. As J.R. Michael's saying, yeah, an effective organization. And they put out good info. I mean, there's a lot of them out there. It's a battle for information. And even if stuff seems dry, it's important. And they package it up well. National Citizens Coalition, the Taxpayers Federation. You want to get more into the studies in depth too. You know, there's groups like Fraser Institute and others that put out such important stuff because we're not getting it from the legacy media.
01:34:05.720You know, something else interesting out of the whole thing, I was watching Rosie Barton and her interaction with Carney early in the thing.
01:34:16.000And again, that visceral response, you know, when I had James Snell talking earlier too on the feedback he got, how much the swarms came after him when he questioned Carney at a media event.
01:34:27.480And then it was even more blasphemy, though.
01:34:29.720I mean, it's one thing for a Western Standard reporter to question Carney,
01:34:32.300but for a CBC reporter to dare question Carney, that's disturbing, actually.
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