Western Standard - August 13, 2026


What has Carney actually delivered？

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mass migration issue
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Corey Morgan
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Nigel Hannaford Dave Winnick Jackson Trump Medhani Johans Stuart Phillip James Lee Anthony Fauci Carrie Lake Trudeau Pauliot Carney Polyev Smith Ford
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00:00:00 Good evening, my name is Corey Morgan. I'm a senior columnist with the Western Standard,
00:00:28 you're watching the pipeline yes we usually have derek fildebrand our publisher uh hosting this
00:00:34 thing but he's indisposed today god knows what he's up to this time not my concern or problem
00:00:38 but it does leave me in the hosting chair we got a bit of a different lineup all around today i'll
00:00:43 kind of start on the far end we have reporter jackson lloye chiming in wearing his dad's jacket
00:00:50 looking very daffer say a little uh was it red compared to the blue it's looking good
00:00:55 And Dave Winnick, fresh off from a news check-in on my show a little while back.
00:01:02 Indeed.
00:01:03 It was pretty much an hour right on, like I said.
00:01:05 And as it was, yes.
00:01:07 And a fixture, opinion editor, emeritus Nigel Hannaford.
00:01:13 Good to be here, Corey.
00:01:15 I've had my full outfit checked out by my wife before I had been allowed on.
00:01:19 So, you know, she's available on a consultancy basis. 0.91
00:01:23 might end a tire 1.00
00:01:24 later on.
00:01:26 Alright, well you won't
00:01:27 get that note later
00:01:27 like those occasional
00:01:28 times have appeared
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00:01:30 and we'll get the
00:01:30 email a little later.
00:01:32 Gee, that was a good
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00:01:33 Yes.
00:01:34 What have we got
00:01:35 for the viewers?
00:01:36 What have we got?
00:01:36 We've got lots of
00:01:37 things.
00:01:38 We're starting on
00:01:39 the federal front.
00:01:40 We're talking about
00:01:41 our fine prime minister
00:01:42 a year and a half
00:01:43 into his mandate.
00:01:45 What's he managed
00:01:46 to do for an
00:01:47 IJ?
00:01:47 Well, you know,
00:01:47 that's the thing.
00:01:48 Not too much, really.
00:01:50 What got me started
00:01:52 on this train of thought was not so much mr carney i've got kind of used to the idea of that
00:01:57 he makes announcements and nothing happens but um pierre polyev is sinking in the polls and i i
00:02:06 cannot wrap my head around how he can be doing so badly in the polls when he's really not done
00:02:14 anything wrong while mr carney has not really done anything right and as yet is leading him by
00:02:23 according to some polls which i don't actually believe but 19 19 percentage points so i thought
00:02:30 maybe we need to take a look and see if mr carney has actually done a few things that merit the
00:02:38 popularity he's now enjoying but he hasn't and that's so let's just go over this he was elected
00:02:43 in april of last year so he's been in office for about 15 months now you can't turn an oil tanker
00:02:50 around on the spot and you can't take a a canadian economy that's been decimated by nearly 10 years
00:02:57 of his predecessor uh and expect everything to turn around in in a few weeks or even a few months
00:03:04 but after 15 months you should see some signs of where the growth where the where the new action
00:03:11 is going to come from but i you know i'm not seeing it he established the major projects
00:03:18 office to make things move fast there are presently 19 projects in its mall but only one has been
00:03:26 announced and that was one that was well advanced before mr carney became prime minister never mind
00:03:32 set up the office so there's an awful lot of it's out there it's in the future it's coming but it
00:03:38 isn't here yet so that's you know that's with the major industrial development on defense he said
00:03:43 right we're going to meet the two percent nato standard two percent of uh gdp spent on defense
00:03:50 well what did he do he gave everybody a pay raise incorporated the coast guard into the military
00:03:55 suddenly we're at two percent that's not really the the object of the exercise and then on trade
00:04:03 he's gone around the world signing memorandums of understanding the only trade that we've really
00:04:09 seen is an agreement with china to import vehicles which does nothing for ontario's
00:04:16 auto industry we don't have a comparable thing exporting to china so you know when do we call
00:04:23 time on this experiment and say all right you've had a chance now you know now we need to see some
00:04:30 performance and if not we're going to condemn you is that uh is 15 months enough is it 18 months is
00:04:36 it two years how many budget cycles does a man have to go through as prime minister before you
00:04:41 actually rate his performance well there's a regional breakdown when we see the polling
00:04:46 too i mean albertans and still even currently is polling surprisingly strongly in alberta
00:04:51 apparently in edmonton of course in some other areas but central canada most particularly has
00:04:56 a love affair with the liberal party we do have somebody freshly over from there i mean you know
00:05:00 we've brushed most of the smell off you but uh i mean you can offer some perspective though you
00:05:05 know perhaps why is the frustration not building up out there as badly as it is out here well i
00:05:11 think because it if this thing was currently presenting it's politics is a game of optics
00:05:15 and in eastern canada and i'd say like central especially in come back in ontario maritimes of
00:05:19 course always quite lean liberal but they they see that they see the news headlines they see they see
00:05:25 Kearney signs MOU with X country
00:05:27 Kearney puts this project
00:05:29 in the major projects office
00:05:31 so they see the headlines
00:05:33 and they must assume well something's going to happen because of it
00:05:35 so the popular I think is not so
00:05:37 much because we're seeing fruits of the labor
00:05:39 more because there's talk
00:05:41 of things going like you said there's not been a lot
00:05:43 of substance but a lot of
00:05:44 good things potentially happening
00:05:47 in the future so I think like
00:05:49 the eastern perspective is just
00:05:51 well he talks nice
00:05:53 he dresses good he makes us look good in the world stage we must be good so i think that's
00:05:57 kind of the perspective that why it's winning over so many people across like i mean it's
00:06:01 across the country you have to admit it like you look at the polling numbers even albert i think
00:06:03 he's what plus 14 favorability like i think it was something like that yeah no like you said it
00:06:09 is just optics because i was talking to stockwell day about this recently and what do people see
00:06:12 the average person they don't see what we see because we're always constantly like looking at
00:06:15 news cycles they just see announcements and they think great that's getting built well they don't
00:06:19 specify when like the pipeline it's not going to be built or an operational the one to the west
00:06:22 coast if it gets approved until i think 2035 so people just see the announcement and that's it
00:06:28 that's all they know so they just assume yeah that's happening they don't really see boot they
00:06:31 don't really think about boots on the ground etc so yeah i think that is probably the main reason
00:06:35 behind his numbers really because they just it looks like he does a lot while he's doing nothing
00:06:39 he's basically just well all hat no cattle really because you can go around like you said signing
00:06:43 memorandums or whatnot in china i think he was in india talking about maybe an energy deal
00:06:47 but most of these if they're going to come about aren't going to happen like actually start
00:06:50 happening for several years so it's like you know i mean when's the next election coming up really
00:06:55 when they could possibly call it so you know this polling is not going to go down anytime soon if
00:06:59 this just keeps up really he does like pulling out the checkbook though i mean one of the areas
00:07:03 that it seems he has kind of moved towards something though we don't have lacial it is
00:07:06 you mentioned the nato targets and such which yeah that was the very initial thing was just
00:07:10 more some number jiggling to make it look like the two percent but there have been some some
00:07:14 pretty serious procurement uh you know commitments made uh with a heck of a lot of our dollars that
00:07:20 that would actually bring hardware into the military.
00:07:24 Again, we've seen the announcement in the spending part, so presumably, though, that
00:07:27 will happen.
00:07:28 Well, the only thing is we started the process of buying the F-35 fighter, for example,
00:07:36 before Mr. Trudeau became prime minister back in 2015.
00:07:40 And then they put a hold on it and delayed, and then they thought they might need to investigate
00:07:44 a different type of aircraft because they weren't happy with the americans um we have a problem in
00:07:52 canada buying military equipment you may remember the helicopter fiasco of the 1990s the sea kings
00:07:59 we try to get rid of them you know and nobody can make their mind up what they wanted or provide the
00:08:03 funding for it and my fear is that uh you know by the time we actually see a lot of this equipment
00:08:10 the next war will have come and gone and we'll have lost you know that's a it's a very slow
00:08:15 process well yeah i remember a recent story that was fascinating a year or two ago whereas our
00:08:21 service members were still literally carrying sidearms from world war ii yeah that's and they'd
00:08:26 been talking about changing them for decades and decades you could just go into cabela's and buy
00:08:31 better at least back then uh you know firearms uh but the government just paralyzes itself when it
00:08:37 comes to military procurement of these things. I mean, you know, we're going to be getting
00:08:41 biplanes eventually to catch up with whatever we ordered for World War I. But I mean, that's
00:08:47 one of the areas, though, that is slow and it takes more reform. I mean, among other
00:08:51 things, why isn't he being called up by other provincial leaders? It's another thing in
00:08:54 the East, for example. Premier Ford and Mr. Carney have been quite tight. But Ford is
00:09:01 inexplicable with his appeal, though he's been having troubles. What's going on with
00:09:07 with the relationship there i mean why isn't the premier saying hey carney why don't you get some
00:09:11 done uh with ford saying to carney yeah i i mean i think i think your average citizen's not doing
00:09:17 anything but either is your average premier i think carney would say ford's causing just as
00:09:20 much problems as trump is at the minute when it comes to the u.s trade dispute uh he isn't really
00:09:24 helping anyone out the minute when it comes to trying to put a good face on canada right now
00:09:29 but uh i think that from from again from a provincial point of view if you're on terror
00:09:34 right now into the whole U.S. thing when they've made it clear is the liquor block is one of their
00:09:39 main sticking points and Ford seems hell bent on sticking to that so I've said if anything I'd say
00:09:45 not to stick up for Kearney but if anything Ford's the one causing him more problems than
00:09:49 Kearney is at the minute for Ford. Well then to bring it a little closer to home why hasn't
00:09:54 how long is Premier Smith going to be hand in hand with Kearney? I mean she she's been there 0.98
00:10:00 for all of the announcements too.
00:10:01 And she's not questioning the timeline.
00:10:03 She's not putting pressure on.
00:10:04 She's not lighting a fire under him.
00:10:06 I understand you want to work cooperatively
00:10:08 and try and get things done.
00:10:09 But at some point,
00:10:10 she's got to be speaking up for Alberta
00:10:11 and saying, look, Prime Minister,
00:10:14 you know, just putting these to the office
00:10:16 isn't getting us anywhere.
00:10:17 When are you going to do something?
00:10:19 And she's been reticent to call him out as well.
00:10:21 Yeah, she has.
00:10:23 I have no inside knowledge.
00:10:27 My speculation is that...
00:10:29 That's all we're about here. 1.00
00:10:29 yeah so you know the rumor and the gossip you have to you're right she does have to appear 0.99
00:10:35 cooperative because that if if carney is as popular in alberta as some of these polls suggest
00:10:43 there's not much mileage in it for her to stick a put a stick in his ear every time she sees him
00:10:51 it's probably going to get along with him a little bit and with the pipeline the problem with the
00:10:56 pipeline uh apart from the fact that it sounds like it's going to be built with government money
00:11:01 via trans mountain uh is that uh part of the deal is pumping carbon dioxide underground that is the
00:11:08 bit that puzzles me i don't know why she's going along with that because anybody will tell you
00:11:15 that's like digging a hole to get dirt to fill another hole well it gets back to politics again
00:11:20 though there's some very strong supporters of that party very heavily invested into that paddle
00:11:24 waste project now that would become very upset if they back down even if it was proven to be a waste
00:11:29 of time uh well i just wonder if she's gonna say anything and she's waiting until october 1st because
00:11:35 october 1st is the date or the deadline i think for the major projects office to say if the pipeline
00:11:41 is going to be a project of national interest and approve it so i'm just waiting to see what happens
00:11:46 no they're actually they're talking about it okay which yeah they keep there's another
00:11:50 announcement right there neither so october 1st is a deadline i'm wondering if she's waiting just
00:11:54 to see what happens till then and then after that happens and say something goes wrong it doesn't
00:11:58 happen if she's going to unleash them well she'd have to unleash at some point because if this 0.70
00:12:02 thing falls apart she keeps her wagon so tightly hitched to carne she's going to go down with them 0.99
00:12:07 yeah it's a dangerous gamble at this point yeah the indigenous factors another one carne won't 1.00
00:12:14 touch well no politician wants to touch it they're terrified of it but unless i mean they can
00:12:19 announce all the stuff they want that office can say whatever they want unless carney comes right
00:12:23 out and says you guys don't have a veto it's not getting done no i agree you know he can say
00:12:29 diplomatically but he's and i think that might may bear on the question you asked just now is when is
00:12:34 she likely to say something that would be the point uh i mean if he takes combative role now
00:12:40 and the pipeline doesn't happen well then there will certainly be critics who will say well you
00:12:46 know if you don't just play along a little better we'll be digging all digging a hole in the ground
00:12:51 now well if it turns out that actually the thing is not going anywhere uh that there is no pipeline
00:12:59 hard carney has no further hold on her she say what she likes and she would have every reason to
00:13:04 i think as well is right now she like she's had no greater leverage than what she has right now
00:13:08 with with the referendum coming up in the end of october with like you said with the major
00:13:12 major products office deadline i think at this point again to talk about playing politics i
00:13:16 I think she's just trying to maximize what she's going to get out of Kearney 1.00
00:13:18 in this short period of time where she has that maximum leverage.
00:13:21 So I'm not trying to, you know, toot the horn of the Premier here,
00:13:24 but I don't blame her necessarily for trying to play so close-knit with him.
00:13:29 Especially the political motivations.
00:13:31 It's just the realities, there's the ideals, and then there's the politics.
00:13:35 And all of them have to come into play with these things.
00:13:38 But, I mean, it just seems like the Emperor has no clothes nobody wants to call out.
00:13:43 I mean, he has really done nothing.
00:13:44 You just list the accomplishments.
00:13:47 So the question comes back, how long do we give them?
00:13:52 Or how long, in fact, does the mainstream media and the other people who have an opinion
00:14:00 such as the opposition, is two budget cycles enough to say, you've had your chance, you've
00:14:07 produced nothing, all right, we're coming for you?
00:14:10 And I would say that, you know, next year, this time next year, if there's nothing happening, he's going to be in real trouble.
00:14:18 We'll wait and see.
00:14:19 An issue, actually, he has kind of done a little bit on, and I'll segue in.
00:14:22 You know, it's the mass migration issue, though.
00:14:25 It's a big one.
00:14:27 He did actually scale back the amount of refugee claimants that are being accepted and some of the temporary foreign workers.
00:14:33 But it's still a concern.
00:14:34 It's still a pressure.
00:14:35 and they're still, I think part of the problem is the ones that are the people who are already
00:14:40 here who should be moved out. Yeah. The reason is expired and they won't. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, but
00:14:45 the conservatives are terrified of that. It's similar to the indigenous issue. I think that
00:14:48 politicians are only touching it, but they're going to have to step in, won't they? I would
00:14:52 assume so. Yeah. But I mean, the question again is when, because I mean, if you want to talk about
00:14:56 mass migration and whatnot is, I mean, obviously Polly, I've talked about just like opening the
00:14:59 floodgates and trying to curb that. But at the end of the day, this just goes back to the old 0.97
00:15:05 thing i don't think the conservatives want to touch it because of pandering to votes ethnic
00:15:10 vote i mean that's every party now doesn't really want to touch this because they're pandering to
00:15:14 votes that's what it really comes down to they don't want to be called racist or something
00:15:17 that's really what it comes down to at the end of the day i think and i don't know when it's going
00:15:21 to end really because it seems to be no end in sight really even when they talk about curbing
00:15:25 immigration like you said all the ones that are here if there are visas up or whatnot are they
00:15:30 they going to be booted out? No. So what do you do? Same with criminals. All these judges
00:15:35 that are trying to always make sure these criminals don't get deported and give them
00:15:38 lesser sentences. It's absurd. Yeah. I was speaking on my show about one of those incidents
00:15:44 today earlier with this gentleman. I want to call him that. I'm just trying to find
00:15:49 the name. Medhani Johans. He's a not Canadian refugee. He's had two convictions for sexual
00:15:56 assaults on strangers, so he's 1.00
00:15:58 a rapist. 0.99
00:16:01 Repeated breaches of court orders, 0.75
00:16:03 described by police as a high risk.
00:16:06 Won't deport him. 1.00
00:16:07 He's not a citizen. Why on? If we 1.00
00:16:08 can't even get rid of him,
00:16:11 but why isn't
00:16:11 Polyev standing on the rooftop screaming
00:16:14 about this one? Because actually he's not.
00:16:16 That's another one of these symptoms of this mass immigration. 0.98
00:16:18 He's scared to touch. Okay, so 1.00
00:16:20 there's a couple of things going on here.
00:16:22 I share your dismay that 1.00
00:16:24 we can't deport a 0.97
00:16:26 non-citizen double rapist i mean we the same thing happens in great britain again there is a fear of
00:16:34 actually coming down hard on people who commit crimes who aren't citizens but who aren't white
00:16:42 you know uh i'd almost like to see somebody try just to see what happens frankly because i don't
00:16:48 think the reaction would be near. I don't think there is an ethnic community that is going to be 0.84
00:16:56 so offended at the deportation of one of its members after that member has brought shame on
00:17:02 the community. I think somebody needs to grow a pair, as they say. I'm sure I heard you say that
00:17:11 once um the but the other thing is that we always assume that um ethnic immigrants are as opposed to
00:17:21 white immigrants are sort of natural liberal voters well some are but not all are uh some
00:17:31 immigrants come here from conservatively minded countries and are appalled at what they find here
00:17:38 in canada in terms of our looseness and some actually turn around go back home again so my 0.97
00:17:44 my plea to the conservatives would be recognize that not everybody who comes from another country
00:17:55 is a natural liberal and they might actually appreciate your support and sticking up for
00:17:59 the values that they hold which are not shared by this liberal government i think that you've
00:18:04 the nail on the head there is that's exactly it is if you can if you speak to a lot of like uh
00:18:08 i would say newer immigrants who came here pre-2015 they'll speak to the fact that the
00:18:14 immigration immigration levels that are happening now they they are the most like outwardly spoken
00:18:18 against that kind of thing and like he's talking about they wouldn't be against deporting somebody 1.00
00:18:22 who is a double rapist like who most of these people coming from like non-white immigrant 0.98
00:18:27 countries are quite socially conservative and would see that as a good thing as you know 0.98
00:18:31 know fair justice in action so again i think like exactly what you said like it's it's a
00:18:36 they're pandering to a base that they're pairing to a group of voters that doesn't really exist
00:18:40 which is which is liberal generation immigration presumptions yeah you know are aren't fair i mean
00:18:47 i i can't remember who it was there was an indian gentleman i don't know if it was comedian or
00:18:50 politician or media member said along the lines of i came all the way here to get away from india 0.99
00:18:55 and then the rest of india followed me uh but i mean you know it's a problem with indians just 1.00
00:19:00 that the amount, the volume, the environment, the economics, I mean, you know, immigrants of any 1.00
00:19:06 color, they're not another species. They have the same concerns. They're worried about dying on a
00:19:10 waiting list to get into a hospital. They want their kids to be able to afford to get a home.
00:19:14 They're tired of hearing their sons coming home saying, Dad, I'm a woman this week because my
00:19:18 teacher told me so. These are communities that conservatives can resonate in. To that point,
00:19:23 let me tell you a little story here. This was about a year ago. True story. A friend of mine
00:19:29 has this friend uh petroleum engineer hails from pakistan uh moved here with his wife
00:19:38 had children and one day his nine-year-old daughter comes home and starts talking to mom
00:19:45 and tells mom that the teacher said it would be okay if she were to kiss a girl
00:19:54 nine years old first of all i don't know why they're talking about that in class at that age
00:19:59 But they were getting the blessing of the teaching establishment that those kinds of relationships would be acceptable. 0.72
00:20:11 That man heard that and set the wheels in motion and has now returned to Pakistan because that's not the culture that he wants his children to be brought up in. 1.00
00:20:21 Now, we don't necessarily want the whole culture of Pakistan. 0.99
00:20:25 It's a difficult discussion. 1.00
00:20:25 There's some aspects of the Pakistani culture we don't want. 1.00
00:20:28 you know this was a this was a educated hard-working productive member of our key and 1.00
00:20:37 of our uh of our industry you know and they find that the laxness and the looseness of the morals
00:20:43 in canada not acceptable to them so in his case he went back now why can a conservative not
00:20:51 capitalize on that sentiment rather than saying we're going to send people back and it's going
00:20:56 get us into trouble especially if it's the right people that get sent back well uh key point well
00:21:03 ironically every time like uh immigration voting uh kind of uh drives or whatever i'd find white
00:21:10 immigrants from europe are honestly more liberally minded than a lot of the like ethnic ones from
00:21:15 middle east or you know uh eating some content so again talk going back to what we were saying like
00:21:22 Like, why the Conservative Party still feels the need to play so soft-handedly with minority groups is bizarre to me.
00:21:32 Like, I don't understand what the end goal is. 0.99
00:21:35 So isn't that part of it?
00:21:36 I mean, Pauliot hasn't been able to find a chip in the armor of the Liberals somehow, no matter what he's tried.
00:21:43 But part of it is he's been scared to take solid stances on some of these things, too.
00:21:47 I mean, you'd have to carefully consider how you approach it. 1.00
00:21:51 it would have to be strategic but you know we think the environment's there among the immigrant 0.98
00:21:56 community and non-immigrant if he could phrase it right he said he doesn't have much less to lose
00:22:02 anymore well certainly as we as we ended the discussion he said most immigrant communities 0.99
00:22:08 would be quite happy if you sent back the bad people from among their communities start with
00:22:13 the low-hanging phrases yes exactly and we can't do that i mean that there's one of the areas that
00:22:21 conservatives are all getting difficulty with too. Temporary foreign workers. And I remember that
00:22:25 was coming up and I had some debates. People got upset with me when I used to own my pub and
00:22:29 restaurant because a lot of that's where it kind of began a lot though. They were using a lot of
00:22:33 temporary foreign workers in the service industry. And I have literally put ads up when I owned that 0.59
00:22:40 pub looking for cooks, paying above the average Calgary wage because I'm just outside of the city.
00:22:47 I didn't even get applicants. I mean, it's not a matter of not paying enough for a good enough
00:22:50 environment they aren't even applying i could not get people into those jobs that is corey i've
00:22:55 always one of the things people always say like these guys that have piles of temporary foreign
00:22:59 workers that no canadian kids want these jobs why is that but then why do they put out like
00:23:03 hundreds of resumes and like we never get a call back like what is going on i'm this is the whole
00:23:07 i don't know who's not calling them back because i sure as heck would if they showed up with a resume
00:23:12 i was practically putting them in a headlock and dragging them into the kitchen and signing
00:23:15 them up for payroll they weren't applying maybe that was it well yeah i guess they heard about
00:23:22 that that shackle they saw in the bag but i mean i i think there's an expectation that's been built
00:23:29 you know this is going farther back into the the education system of people thinking they're going
00:23:33 to graduate and jump straight to the uh you know full-time job with a good salary and benefits and
00:23:38 and so on and sometimes you might need a little time in the working world first and that to be
00:23:42 honest i think there's a lot of a generation think they're above it well you know young zolton made
00:23:46 a really good point in his uh piece that we published this morning why are we bringing in
00:23:52 firefighters from mexico are there not people in british colombia or for that matter somewhere
00:23:59 else in canada if you can fly them in from mexico you can fly them in from montreal you know who
00:24:05 want to go and and take that job do god's work and get paid handsomely for it again speaking
00:24:11 as a guy who worked in the bush in BC, you know, as a surveyor and for 20 years, 30 years ago,
00:24:17 the predominant firefighting forces in British Columbia came from the reserves.
00:24:22 Getting back to people who don't want to apply for the jobs anymore. And that's because of a
00:24:25 larger social and cultural and economic, just all sorts of things. We can get into the whole
00:24:29 morass of the challenges on reserves right now, but they are not good labor pools to dip into
00:24:34 in British Columbia at this time. So there isn't a domestic force, but they've also brought in
00:24:39 a whole bunch of contracts to make sure nobody else can get them off of the reserves, these
00:24:44 agreements to make sure they had that industry cornered. Again, sensitive area that no politician
00:24:50 wants to touch with a 10-foot pole, but the people that they had sort of contracted and assumed would
00:24:55 fill that role because they live in those areas and they need the work and they can be paid very,
00:24:59 very well for it, aren't able to provide the actual labor yet at the same time the protections
00:25:05 are in. So they have the contractor. They can't even issue the jobs and take a cut.
00:25:15 I mean, I'm certain a lot of the ones coming off the reserve and fighting the fires and so on,
00:25:19 but it's a mess. They did things when they brought in native contractors when I was surveying up in 1.00
00:25:23 Tumblr Ridge area and Charlie Lake and where all these contractors, I would have 12 different
00:25:28 contractors from one reserve and uh it was just it's hard to explain how brutal it was
00:25:35 and that's part of why we don't work up there anymore we just couldn't it was uh but you weren't
00:25:40 allowed to hire anybody off the bloody reserve so the contractor falls apart then him and his brother
00:25:45 split into two new contractors it's just a degree of that has gone into the firefighting and that's
00:25:50 where it's a difficult area because you have to have a standing force i mean for three quarters
00:25:55 of the year you don't need them yeah and how do you maintain training and availability and keep
00:26:01 them employed and ready to be able to and that's difficult for anybody native or non-native but
00:26:05 like it's a tough job what do you do how do you pay somebody to sit around for eight months a
00:26:09 year but then be available to say hey we're going to need you 80 hours a week for the next month
00:26:13 because we've got fires hitting it's difficult um though it's a good piece you put out it's
00:26:18 ask those questions then why isn't that available yeah and then speaking like the young people are
00:26:24 you're talking about wanting work and it is true like there is a lot of like young people complain
00:26:27 there's no work and then expecting to get a you know a full-time paying job with benefits
00:26:30 because i think it speaks to the fact that i and this might be a controversy i think canada has a
00:26:36 very over-educated population we have a lot of people who are going into and speaking someone
00:26:40 who's a recent grad like i just graduated the year previous we have lots of people who are going into
00:26:45 programs where there is no not even guaranteed job no real form of employment after you get that
00:26:51 degree and there's this pressure societally to get a university because that's seen as like oh the
00:26:56 you're not smart unless you get a university degree i know loads of guys who didn't who went
00:27:00 straight into high school into the trades making way more money than i'm making right now lots of
00:27:04 people with better degrees than i have make more money than them and i think it's because in canada
00:27:08 we have this idea that to be somebody you need to have a university degree you need to go to
00:27:11 post-secondary institution and and not to say that you know trade school is good and all but like
00:27:15 loads of people getting arts degrees and i ironically as a journalist speaking about this
00:27:19 to say i'm one of them i'm part of the problem but i think there are people you said the expectation
00:27:24 is the expectation is also again the societal thought that because i have this i should have
00:27:30 a better job than this person who doesn't have it and i think that is a definitely an issue and i'd
00:27:35 say not a necessarily a good thing that we're in such an educated population so if we could change
00:27:39 some of those issues which is a big ask i mean that's where we could reduce all that temporary
00:27:42 foreign worker load that's been coming in because the pool potentially is there uh but i mean it's
00:27:50 a difficult well you know he's he's actually right on had um gwen morgan sitting in that chair a
00:27:58 couple of weeks ago and we're talking about building ai data centers in central alberta
00:28:05 and he said look ai is taking a tremendous amount of work out of the you know they used to be
00:28:10 available it's not there anymore so my advice to young people is go and get the qualifications
00:28:16 you're going to need to actually build the ai data center then you will be then you'll be making real
00:28:23 money and those are big challenges coming i mean that's a whole whole show we could do i mean the
00:28:29 demographic shift due to ai the ai data centers that uh a lot of them they've turned into the new
00:28:34 chemtrails because the paranoid are now applying every possible hill to them i mean they're just
00:28:38 large buildings with computers. They use a lot of energy. Fair enough. We have a lot of energy,
00:28:43 but as far as employment, they're not that great. I mean, you know, a multi-billion dollar facility,
00:28:49 and it's really only going to create a couple hundred permanent jobs. There's where some of
00:28:54 the discussion is going to universal basic income or how are we going to model and change our
00:28:57 society when we've had a massive category of jobs that really have vanished and they're going to.
00:29:02 that's uh but again it's maybe we should reevaluate how many temporary foreign workers
00:29:08 we got i mean i don't know i don't mind serving coffee at tim hortons if i had and i don't want
00:29:12 to go this route but you know a basic income that brought me up to this level and i'm making extra
00:29:17 now with the physical job that ai can't do frankly at our age we better be better off lobbying for
00:29:24 higher pensions yeah true enough it's not like my job length is going terrible these guys can
00:29:29 worry about the universal basically oh yeah thanks but uh as always we seem to wait till
00:29:35 everything becomes a crisis before we look at fixing it though and i guess the generation's
00:29:38 got a scary thing to look ahead to uh all right well let's move on to the last one i mean there's
00:29:43 something that they i can't do yet anyways until robocop comes along uh police servicing and people
00:29:51 on the ground uh uh calgary police service dave what's going on oh well they had worthy park
00:29:57 shooting apparently two cops pulled over this guy that was i mean it was just a routine from what
00:30:02 we know it was a routine traffic stop over near edworthy park which i guess technically is in the
00:30:06 southwest off star sea trail just west of downtown and i guess yeah he shot one of the cops twice
00:30:11 fled into the park he ended up carjacking somebody then car got stuck he got out and he was basically
00:30:17 a running gun battle with the cops and there was nearby civilians that said that he was trying to
00:30:21 shoot at them too it was all over the place so there was a fairly decently long gun battle there
00:30:25 And then he ended up, the cops found him by the river, I can't remember if it was by the river or in the river, and he apparently died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound.
00:30:33 But afterwards, the police said that he was, they found out he was like a known organized crime target that they were aware of, but they still haven't released a name or anything.
00:30:42 So that's kind of what everyone's wondering, why they haven't released a name yet.
00:30:45 I mean, I know it's part of an ongoing investigation, but it still seems like if the guy is deceased and he was a non-criminal, you know, member, why has there been no name or even any descriptors about the guy at all?
00:30:57 And I've seen people defending, you know, the police holding it back.
00:31:00 But, I mean, Jackson, you've been, you know, tasked with calling and finding out things and so on.
00:31:05 Often in many, many cases, as soon as somebody's been charged or if it's been settled, the name comes out.
00:31:09 I mean, you know, you can say alleged and all sorts of things around it, but the name is not a secret.
00:31:15 It tends to come out. Why do you think they're sitting on this one?
00:31:18 I have no idea. And it is bizarre, because like you said, like, I mean, that's like a daily occurrence.
00:31:22 We call on CPS saying, you know, can I get a statement about this? Can I statement about that?
00:31:26 Can you tell me more about this case? And they're usually, to be fair to them, quite, quite eager.
00:31:30 Not eager, actually. They're not eager at all, actually.
00:31:32 But they're usually quite willing to hand over information if you push hard enough.
00:31:35 So it is, I mean, I don't know why.
00:31:38 In this particular case, maybe with the organized crime aspect, there might be some other cases he's involved and they don't want to.
00:31:43 But surely, if you're involved in organized crime and know the guy, you'd know he's been killed or killed himself or whatever.
00:31:50 Oh, and I'll mention the elephant in the room before I go to Nigel. 0.65
00:31:53 Organized gangs in Calgary, we don't have Swedish ones. 1.00
00:31:56 We don't have Dukabor ones. 1.00
00:31:58 They tend to be ethnic minorities. 1.00
00:32:00 And when I moved to Calgary, and it changes. 0.99
00:32:02 These gangs were the big thing, actually, because they were still remnants from the influx of the boat people and so on in the 80s. 0.93
00:32:09 Back in the day when I was a kid, in the 90s? 0.98
00:32:10 Yeah.
00:32:12 It's respectable, though.
00:32:13 Yeah, I know, right? 1.00
00:32:13 Jamaican gangs became problematic into the 90s. 1.00
00:32:18 It just comes with disenfranchised young immigrants.
00:32:22 It tends to happen often, things like that.
00:32:24 But there's a lot of speculation.
00:32:25 The bottom line is they just don't want to cause the headache when it's realized that this is probably not somebody with a name that's associated with homework.
00:32:34 Yes.
00:32:35 Well, unfortunately, I think the police are very sensitive to that.
00:32:41 Not necessarily because they want to be sensitive, but because the police commissions that supervise their activities have a heavy leavening of woke people in it who jump on them if they say too much.
00:32:54 And give anybody fuel for that argument we were having earlier about maybe it's time to send a few people back.
00:33:03 Because that's not their vision of how they want society to look.
00:33:07 So I think if you knew the whole story, and maybe we will someday, it is possible that there's an ongoing investigation.
00:33:17 That's possible, that he's part of or was part of.
00:33:21 But it could also just simply be that the police know who they have to not offend and are therefore careful not to give offense.
00:33:30 Well, it could be, but ACERT's also involved now, and I got in touch with them, and they said that they don't release names of people involved in an incident without consent, so it would be the person involved who's dead or their next of kin, so I don't think the next of kin are going to want the name to come out, and the thing about ACERT as well that I find odd, I've talked about this with Dave, is a lot of the ACERT reports when they're finally done investigations still don't name people, regardless, so it's another thing to throw into the mix, really, so yeah.
00:33:57 I mean, it gets, I mean, I'm just suspecting on this, even if that's not the case in this case, we've seen it in other cases, particularly in the UK.
00:34:04 And that's when it becomes dangerous.
00:34:05 I mean, for years, the reports were squeaking out and so on, but the police wouldn't talk about it and so on.
00:34:11 There were rape gangs.
00:34:12 There were grooming gangs.
00:34:13 There were countless young ladies being molested and abused and so on. 0.99
00:34:20 And the bottom line, when it's all finally come out, they were Pakistani gangs.
00:34:24 That's not saying every Pakistani person, by all means, is participating in those.
00:34:29 But in those particular gangs, they were all Pakistani people. 0.95
00:34:34 How do you solve it if you won't look at the root? 1.00
00:34:37 Well, they won't look at the root and they won't even take action when the story is clear.
00:34:44 One of the ringleaders of those rape gangs was actually caught, tried, convicted.
00:34:53 He was not a citizen.
00:34:54 and they still wouldn't deport him.
00:34:57 This came out about six weeks ago.
00:34:59 I remember hearing that.
00:35:00 So they have the same problem over there.
00:35:05 They just can't bring themselves to take action against a criminal.
00:35:10 Yeah, it seems like, I don't know, I've talked about this before,
00:35:12 but it seems like they care more about the human rights of criminals
00:35:15 than the actual, you know, law-abiding citizens.
00:35:18 I just don't understand how that ever came to be an ideology.
00:35:21 And that's when I get upset.
00:35:22 I mean, political correctness is usually annoying.
00:35:24 But it's when it becomes dangerous.
00:35:26 We've got a problem.
00:35:28 I remember an article I went off about, I think it was CTV.
00:35:31 Well, it wasn't just that.
00:35:32 It was the press release from the police service.
00:35:34 But it talked about, be on the lookout for this repeat sex offender, dangerous,
00:35:38 goes after children, this and that. 0.99
00:35:39 We've released this woman. 0.98
00:35:41 She's very, very dangerous. 0.86
00:35:43 And, you know, keep an eye out.
00:35:45 And that's fine until you click through on the press release and you realize it's a man.
00:35:49 He's got five o'clock shadow, but he's got a couple earrings on.
00:35:52 he's identifying as trans. They're calling him a woman. Now, we need a description when you're
00:35:59 pointing out somebody dangerous. People looking around will think, wow, there's this dangerous
00:36:03 woman wandering around. I'll keep my eyes peeled. No, this was not a woman. Let's not be politically 1.00
00:36:09 correct when they're talking about public safety, but they won't do it. And we've seen that as well,
00:36:13 I think, Jackson, you know, where they don't like talking about the gender or the skin color and
00:36:18 things like that when there's somebody on the loose. It's not a matter of racism. We just want
00:36:21 to point out who it is i think it's not just the i don't think it's not just the fear of again the
00:36:25 societal uh repercussions or like the you know talking about the woke and everything else i
00:36:29 think it's also a fear that that person whoever it is if they are convicted that can push that
00:36:34 if they are say they are a woman identifying as a man or vice versa or whatever it is and they said
00:36:40 oh because they misgendered me in this press release that's this form of whatever the hell
00:36:43 and i can get like the you know just complicate the case so i think it's they might be worried
00:36:48 about that as well because obviously we seem like the politicization of judges and saying oh this
00:36:51 could this could constitute a a form of discrimination and the case is thrown into
00:36:55 disrepute or something i i feel like there there is more sides to i think than just the cultural
00:37:01 thing i mean one was very recent in chestermere where there was surveillance of a guy who was
00:37:05 repeatedly assaulting women in parks out there and they just talked about it being a man and
00:37:11 gave a height description i think that was it and you looked well this is a south asian man
00:37:17 I understand. We don't want people out there becoming fearful of every South Asian person
00:37:21 they see or targeting them or taking a revenge on them. That certainly is. But this is a person
00:37:27 on the loose right now. And yes, if you're in a park and there's a person of that hue who is 0.99
00:37:33 looking a little more dangerous than the others, maybe you want to... And if it was a white person, 0.99
00:37:36 same thing. I want to know what the person looks like. I don't care about the race, but they won't
00:37:40 touch it but where does that land with media yeah well it's definitely one part of the problem as
00:37:49 well i would say too especially sort of the left-leaning mainstream media i guess you could
00:37:53 say they just kind of go along with liberal policies it would seem that is definitely a part
00:37:57 because i mean actually there's an interesting this happened a while ago but there was a police
00:38:02 news release that we got that listed the names of all these criminals i can't remember for what it
00:38:07 it was some sort of maybe smuggling ring or something listed all of them and they were all
00:38:10 ethnic names we published the names and i went to multiple mainstream media outlets that all
00:38:16 probably got the same release no names in any of them so that's a problem actually there's one
00:38:20 today actually was a drug ring i think was in calgary a chest or something eight people arrested
00:38:26 and i as i get a lot a lot of my news on just reddit and the article i saw the headline read
00:38:31 the article and i had to go to the actual comments of the reddit post to speak to somebody actually
00:38:35 they didn't include in the article fear of the names of the people and the names actually finally
00:38:38 left it's quite a multi-ethnic gang you had like yeah well they had a couple yeah i said it was
00:38:43 it was a very like they probably got some quotas they got on there you would look good on like a
00:38:47 poster at school or something with everybody yeah anybody can join yeah see now you you put the names
00:38:55 in you're just a bad person i blame that on dave to be honest you know the other story that's going
00:39:00 around right now corey that i i'm going to be fascinated to see where this one lands
00:39:06 is the fauci diaries have you been paying any attention to it he's that the senate has got the
00:39:15 the fauci diaries and he is with a view to i think perhaps writing a book one day
00:39:22 keeping a very careful record of everything he said and who he said it to during the covet crisis
00:39:30 and in the hands of the people who are dealing with this he comes across as an outright liar in
00:39:39 some cases and certainly highly deceptive and drafting his message from the very start
00:39:46 and you're going to find that there are people who went through hell in covet and they went through
00:39:56 hell on the basis of the recommendations of Anthony Fauci and people like him who worked for
00:40:02 him or who thought that he was a genius. And the COVID show is not over. No, it's not. And the
00:40:11 grilling he got in front of a committee, I was, I was, if you want some clips, and as he sat there
00:40:17 and smugly just saying, I've, he just kept repeating the line, as instructed by my counsel,
00:40:21 I'm taking the fifth. And he even asked him things like, you know, what color is the jacket you're
00:40:26 wearing? On the advice of my legal, he was instructed to not answer anything. That's an
00:40:32 insult to the people. That's a gross, gross insult. It's not over. There's hundreds of thousands of
00:40:38 words to go through. Thousands of pages. I mean, there's just somebody who would keep a diary
00:40:45 with that much information about themselves and noting with satisfaction that so-and-so called
00:40:50 me today and they said i did great you know this kind of thing oh my word but anyway there's a i
00:40:58 just say this for the benefit of many people who gave up a lot to follow their consequences during
00:41:05 those years you may well get the last it won't be a laugh but you may have the last word i hope some
00:41:12 folks are held accountable i mean he led the charge on a lot of the you know the policies that ended
00:41:16 up coming in over here that was the authority that was the north american top person in there
00:41:21 he was the guy and it turns out that a whole lot of what they were putting out was just bs
00:41:27 too i mean did you see that thing that they did about was it um oh miscarriages they were saying
00:41:32 oh that's not that many miscarriages and there was something that came out that said that they knew
00:41:35 that the rate of miscarriages from taking maybe vaccine could be very high compared to what they
00:41:38 were saying some of the discussion doing basically the fact that children without
00:41:44 comorbidities were virtually
00:41:46 immune to it. It was nothing more
00:41:47 than, you know, those statistics were right in front
00:41:49 of everybody's faces. You know, what did they do?
00:41:51 They said, we must vaccinate people under five years old.
00:41:55 Why?
00:41:56 Yet. Well, hopefully
00:41:57 we get some of those answers. That's a whole other
00:42:00 show, too, though. Credit rabbit hole
00:42:01 to drop in our last few minutes.
00:42:03 You get to read the
00:42:05 100,000 words first.
00:42:09 That's what AI
00:42:09 is for. We need a data center.
00:42:11 Yeah, we need a data.
00:42:14 Well, okay. We're getting towards the end. We're getting into the parting shots. What
00:42:19 did you have in mind, Nigel, to throw out there?
00:42:21 Well, you know, I was really intrigued by that story of the bait and switch with Mr.
00:42:26 Trump getting out of Ankara there. So they had reason to believe that Air Force One might
00:42:31 be targeted by an Iranian missile. So in front of the cameras, Trump goes in, waves, moves
00:42:39 up the corridor leaves the plane by a hatch at the uh at the tail end and then is transferred
00:42:48 using one of the catering company uh trucks so you know the ones that sort of go up and down
00:42:55 gets in that takes over to another plane he leaves in that and air force one carries on
00:43:00 luckily nothing happened to air force one and a lot of the press who were on it just scandalized
00:43:06 but you know i couldn't help thinking there's probably something about a food truck because
00:43:11 didn't mr trump also campaign driving a mcdonald's vehicle or something like that
00:43:20 i think taylor swift was brought into concerts that way through a catering type of box before
00:43:26 he's maybe trump's taking cues from the pop stars they talk to each other
00:43:30 Well, I'm a reality TV guy,
00:43:32 should I turn into a pop star and surprise me?
00:43:34 Yeah, he's taken worse advice, I think, over the years.
00:43:38 All right, what do you got there?
00:43:40 I'll stick with Trump, and this is,
00:43:42 not to just harp on it, but his statement today
00:43:45 saying that the USA is total control,
00:43:47 straighter home moves, obviously,
00:43:48 this is what, Grand Hog Day now,
00:43:50 it seems like this has been the dozens of times he's said this.
00:43:52 But I think a recent statement from the Iranians
00:43:54 saying that they will not concede the war
00:43:57 until Trump's out of office,
00:43:58 but I think it just speaks to a larger issue with this.
00:44:00 They shouldn't have gotten involved in this war to begin with.
00:44:02 And I think it was the last time I was on pipeline
00:44:04 we talked about the Iran war
00:44:05 and I think at that point we felt it was a new thing,
00:44:08 it was a novel thing
00:44:09 and yet here we are three months later
00:44:11 and it's still trudging along
00:44:13 and I just seemingly with no foreseeable end in sight
00:44:16 and just, yeah, statements from Trump
00:44:18 and statements from the Iranians
00:44:19 just doesn't seem like there's going to be
00:44:20 any sort of culmination anytime soon.
00:44:23 I've seen a lot of reason between them.
00:44:25 What do you got, Dave?
00:44:26 Well, Corey, mine actually has to deal
00:44:27 the union of british columbia indian chiefs we were talking about the two of us they released a
00:44:31 letter i'm looking here it was sunday that they basically were calling on ottawa and the alberta
00:44:35 government to shut down their whole west coast oil pipeline proposal and there's a whole lot of
00:44:41 odd things about this group but apparently and i found this out the chief is a guy named stuart
00:44:46 phillip and this is something that i found a little interesting tidbit that might be worth
00:44:49 looking into his wife i believe her name is joan happens to be a ndp mla for a vanc vancouver 0.96
00:44:55 Strathcona since 2023. So yeah, I don't know. It seems very interesting against pipelines in
00:45:02 West NDP MLA. No conflict there at all. No, not at all. Ah, wow. What do you expect with those
00:45:08 groups? Good thing I just like to remind everybody. Oh, I've touched it already. I got to watch how
00:45:14 far I go in my touching or I'll get in trouble. I mean, you know, the immigrants community can 1.00
00:45:18 touch and touch and not get deported, but myself, I'd be called out too quickly if I touched the
00:45:23 wrong spot with indigenous issues all right that's enough of my leading talk i've eaten up i don't
00:45:28 have any closing remark to make after that thank you very much for joining me in this diverse and
00:45:34 colorful uh panel today for the pipeline at least by our standards we got some youth among us and
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