Western Standard - What has Carney actually delivered？

00:00:00.000 Good evening, my name is Corey Morgan. I'm a senior columnist with the Western Standard,

00:00:28.160 you're watching the pipeline yes we usually have derek fildebrand our publisher uh hosting this

00:00:34.080 thing but he's indisposed today god knows what he's up to this time not my concern or problem

00:00:38.320 but it does leave me in the hosting chair we got a bit of a different lineup all around today i'll

00:00:43.040 kind of start on the far end we have reporter jackson lloye chiming in wearing his dad's jacket

00:00:50.640 looking very daffer say a little uh was it red compared to the blue it's looking good

00:00:55.040 And Dave Winnick, fresh off from a news check-in on my show a little while back.

00:01:02.580 Indeed.

00:01:03.060 It was pretty much an hour right on, like I said.

00:01:05.380 And as it was, yes.

00:01:07.680 And a fixture, opinion editor, emeritus Nigel Hannaford.

00:01:13.840 Good to be here, Corey.

00:01:15.120 I've had my full outfit checked out by my wife before I had been allowed on.

00:01:19.360 So, you know, she's available on a consultancy basis.

00:01:23.140 might end a tire

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00:01:26.380 Alright, well you won't

00:01:27.080 get that note later

00:01:27.860 like those occasional

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00:01:30.760 email a little later.

00:01:32.580 Gee, that was a good

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00:01:33.580 Yes.

00:01:34.800 What have we got

00:01:35.580 for the viewers?

00:01:36.120 What have we got?

00:01:36.820 We've got lots of

00:01:37.640 things.

00:01:38.140 We're starting on

00:01:39.360 the federal front.

00:01:40.920 We're talking about

00:01:41.840 our fine prime minister

00:01:42.880 a year and a half

00:01:43.580 into his mandate.

00:01:45.480 What's he managed

00:01:46.100 to do for an

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00:01:47.240 Well, you know,

00:01:47.960 that's the thing.

00:01:48.760 Not too much, really.

00:01:50.420 What got me started

00:01:52.240 on this train of thought was not so much mr carney i've got kind of used to the idea of that

00:01:57.120 he makes announcements and nothing happens but um pierre polyev is sinking in the polls and i i

00:02:06.560 cannot wrap my head around how he can be doing so badly in the polls when he's really not done

00:02:14.480 anything wrong while mr carney has not really done anything right and as yet is leading him by

00:02:23.680 according to some polls which i don't actually believe but 19 19 percentage points so i thought

00:02:30.480 maybe we need to take a look and see if mr carney has actually done a few things that merit the

00:02:38.000 popularity he's now enjoying but he hasn't and that's so let's just go over this he was elected

00:02:43.200 in april of last year so he's been in office for about 15 months now you can't turn an oil tanker

00:02:50.480 around on the spot and you can't take a a canadian economy that's been decimated by nearly 10 years

00:02:57.360 of his predecessor uh and expect everything to turn around in in a few weeks or even a few months

00:03:04.320 but after 15 months you should see some signs of where the growth where the where the new action

00:03:11.360 is going to come from but i you know i'm not seeing it he established the major projects

00:03:18.560 office to make things move fast there are presently 19 projects in its mall but only one has been

00:03:26.720 announced and that was one that was well advanced before mr carney became prime minister never mind

00:03:32.880 set up the office so there's an awful lot of it's out there it's in the future it's coming but it

00:03:38.320 isn't here yet so that's you know that's with the major industrial development on defense he said

00:03:43.760 right we're going to meet the two percent nato standard two percent of uh gdp spent on defense

00:03:50.880 well what did he do he gave everybody a pay raise incorporated the coast guard into the military

00:03:55.360 suddenly we're at two percent that's not really the the object of the exercise and then on trade

00:04:03.600 he's gone around the world signing memorandums of understanding the only trade that we've really

00:04:09.760 seen is an agreement with china to import vehicles which does nothing for ontario's

00:04:16.240 auto industry we don't have a comparable thing exporting to china so you know when do we call

00:04:23.600 time on this experiment and say all right you've had a chance now you know now we need to see some

00:04:30.320 performance and if not we're going to condemn you is that uh is 15 months enough is it 18 months is

00:04:36.960 it two years how many budget cycles does a man have to go through as prime minister before you

00:04:41.840 actually rate his performance well there's a regional breakdown when we see the polling

00:04:46.240 too i mean albertans and still even currently is polling surprisingly strongly in alberta

00:04:51.200 apparently in edmonton of course in some other areas but central canada most particularly has

00:04:56.480 a love affair with the liberal party we do have somebody freshly over from there i mean you know

00:05:00.720 we've brushed most of the smell off you but uh i mean you can offer some perspective though you

00:05:05.920 know perhaps why is the frustration not building up out there as badly as it is out here well i

00:05:11.600 think because it if this thing was currently presenting it's politics is a game of optics

00:05:15.200 and in eastern canada and i'd say like central especially in come back in ontario maritimes of

00:05:19.600 course always quite lean liberal but they they see that they see the news headlines they see they see

00:05:25.360 Kearney signs MOU with X country

00:05:27.380 Kearney puts this project

00:05:29.440 in the major projects office

00:05:31.440 so they see the headlines

00:05:33.500 and they must assume well something's going to happen because of it

00:05:35.300 so the popular I think is not so

00:05:37.520 much because we're seeing fruits of the labor

00:05:39.500 more because there's talk

00:05:41.640 of things going like you said there's not been a lot

00:05:43.560 of substance but a lot of

00:05:44.980 good things potentially happening

00:05:47.600 in the future so I think like

00:05:49.400 the eastern perspective is just

00:05:51.380 well he talks nice

00:05:53.660 he dresses good he makes us look good in the world stage we must be good so i think that's

00:05:57.200 kind of the perspective that why it's winning over so many people across like i mean it's

00:06:01.220 across the country you have to admit it like you look at the polling numbers even albert i think

00:06:03.920 he's what plus 14 favorability like i think it was something like that yeah no like you said it

00:06:09.020 is just optics because i was talking to stockwell day about this recently and what do people see

00:06:12.860 the average person they don't see what we see because we're always constantly like looking at

00:06:15.860 news cycles they just see announcements and they think great that's getting built well they don't

00:06:19.320 specify when like the pipeline it's not going to be built or an operational the one to the west

00:06:22.660 coast if it gets approved until i think 2035 so people just see the announcement and that's it

00:06:28.120 that's all they know so they just assume yeah that's happening they don't really see boot they

00:06:31.200 don't really think about boots on the ground etc so yeah i think that is probably the main reason

00:06:35.920 behind his numbers really because they just it looks like he does a lot while he's doing nothing

00:06:39.440 he's basically just well all hat no cattle really because you can go around like you said signing

00:06:43.520 memorandums or whatnot in china i think he was in india talking about maybe an energy deal

00:06:47.540 but most of these if they're going to come about aren't going to happen like actually start

00:06:50.940 happening for several years so it's like you know i mean when's the next election coming up really

00:06:55.300 when they could possibly call it so you know this polling is not going to go down anytime soon if

00:06:59.280 this just keeps up really he does like pulling out the checkbook though i mean one of the areas

00:07:03.480 that it seems he has kind of moved towards something though we don't have lacial it is

00:07:06.820 you mentioned the nato targets and such which yeah that was the very initial thing was just

00:07:10.800 more some number jiggling to make it look like the two percent but there have been some some

00:07:14.860 pretty serious procurement uh you know commitments made uh with a heck of a lot of our dollars that

00:07:20.800 that would actually bring hardware into the military.

00:07:24.040 Again, we've seen the announcement in the spending part, so presumably, though, that

00:07:27.800 will happen.

00:07:28.800 Well, the only thing is we started the process of buying the F-35 fighter, for example,

00:07:36.260 before Mr. Trudeau became prime minister back in 2015.

00:07:40.360 And then they put a hold on it and delayed, and then they thought they might need to investigate

00:07:44.780 a different type of aircraft because they weren't happy with the americans um we have a problem in

00:07:52.280 canada buying military equipment you may remember the helicopter fiasco of the 1990s the sea kings

00:07:59.480 we try to get rid of them you know and nobody can make their mind up what they wanted or provide the

00:08:03.640 funding for it and my fear is that uh you know by the time we actually see a lot of this equipment

00:08:10.040 the next war will have come and gone and we'll have lost you know that's a it's a very slow

00:08:15.720 process well yeah i remember a recent story that was fascinating a year or two ago whereas our

00:08:21.500 service members were still literally carrying sidearms from world war ii yeah that's and they'd

00:08:26.300 been talking about changing them for decades and decades you could just go into cabela's and buy

00:08:31.620 better at least back then uh you know firearms uh but the government just paralyzes itself when it

00:08:37.520 comes to military procurement of these things. I mean, you know, we're going to be getting

00:08:41.680 biplanes eventually to catch up with whatever we ordered for World War I. But I mean, that's

00:08:47.160 one of the areas, though, that is slow and it takes more reform. I mean, among other

00:08:51.580 things, why isn't he being called up by other provincial leaders? It's another thing in

00:08:54.380 the East, for example. Premier Ford and Mr. Carney have been quite tight. But Ford is

00:09:01.280 inexplicable with his appeal, though he's been having troubles. What's going on with

00:09:07.500 with the relationship there i mean why isn't the premier saying hey carney why don't you get some

00:09:11.180 done uh with ford saying to carney yeah i i mean i think i think your average citizen's not doing

00:09:17.420 anything but either is your average premier i think carney would say ford's causing just as

00:09:20.700 much problems as trump is at the minute when it comes to the u.s trade dispute uh he isn't really

00:09:24.540 helping anyone out the minute when it comes to trying to put a good face on canada right now

00:09:29.020 but uh i think that from from again from a provincial point of view if you're on terror

00:09:34.460 right now into the whole U.S. thing when they've made it clear is the liquor block is one of their

00:09:39.480 main sticking points and Ford seems hell bent on sticking to that so I've said if anything I'd say

00:09:45.400 not to stick up for Kearney but if anything Ford's the one causing him more problems than

00:09:49.440 Kearney is at the minute for Ford. Well then to bring it a little closer to home why hasn't

00:09:54.680 how long is Premier Smith going to be hand in hand with Kearney? I mean she she's been there

00:10:00.540 for all of the announcements too.

00:10:01.900 And she's not questioning the timeline.

00:10:03.540 She's not putting pressure on.

00:10:04.840 She's not lighting a fire under him.

00:10:06.520 I understand you want to work cooperatively

00:10:08.280 and try and get things done.

00:10:09.900 But at some point,

00:10:10.600 she's got to be speaking up for Alberta

00:10:11.880 and saying, look, Prime Minister,

00:10:14.980 you know, just putting these to the office

00:10:16.580 isn't getting us anywhere.

00:10:17.820 When are you going to do something?

00:10:19.300 And she's been reticent to call him out as well.

00:10:21.820 Yeah, she has.

00:10:23.600 I have no inside knowledge.

00:10:27.380 My speculation is that...

00:10:29.040 That's all we're about here.

00:10:29.760 yeah so you know the rumor and the gossip you have to you're right she does have to appear

00:10:35.840 cooperative because that if if carney is as popular in alberta as some of these polls suggest

00:10:43.360 there's not much mileage in it for her to stick a put a stick in his ear every time she sees him

00:10:51.040 it's probably going to get along with him a little bit and with the pipeline the problem with the

00:10:56.480 pipeline uh apart from the fact that it sounds like it's going to be built with government money

00:11:01.680 via trans mountain uh is that uh part of the deal is pumping carbon dioxide underground that is the

00:11:08.800 bit that puzzles me i don't know why she's going along with that because anybody will tell you

00:11:15.040 that's like digging a hole to get dirt to fill another hole well it gets back to politics again

00:11:20.320 though there's some very strong supporters of that party very heavily invested into that paddle

00:11:24.400 waste project now that would become very upset if they back down even if it was proven to be a waste

00:11:29.920 of time uh well i just wonder if she's gonna say anything and she's waiting until october 1st because

00:11:35.760 october 1st is the date or the deadline i think for the major projects office to say if the pipeline

00:11:41.200 is going to be a project of national interest and approve it so i'm just waiting to see what happens

00:11:46.720 no they're actually they're talking about it okay which yeah they keep there's another

00:11:50.240 announcement right there neither so october 1st is a deadline i'm wondering if she's waiting just

00:11:54.800 to see what happens till then and then after that happens and say something goes wrong it doesn't

00:11:58.640 happen if she's going to unleash them well she'd have to unleash at some point because if this

00:12:02.640 thing falls apart she keeps her wagon so tightly hitched to carne she's going to go down with them 0.99

00:12:07.840 yeah it's a dangerous gamble at this point yeah the indigenous factors another one carne won't 1.00

00:12:14.480 touch well no politician wants to touch it they're terrified of it but unless i mean they can

00:12:19.920 announce all the stuff they want that office can say whatever they want unless carney comes right

00:12:23.760 out and says you guys don't have a veto it's not getting done no i agree you know he can say

00:12:29.440 diplomatically but he's and i think that might may bear on the question you asked just now is when is

00:12:34.560 she likely to say something that would be the point uh i mean if he takes combative role now

00:12:40.480 and the pipeline doesn't happen well then there will certainly be critics who will say well you

00:12:46.560 know if you don't just play along a little better we'll be digging all digging a hole in the ground

00:12:51.120 now well if it turns out that actually the thing is not going anywhere uh that there is no pipeline

00:12:59.680 hard carney has no further hold on her she say what she likes and she would have every reason to

00:13:04.880 i think as well is right now she like she's had no greater leverage than what she has right now

00:13:08.880 with with the referendum coming up in the end of october with like you said with the major

00:13:12.080 major products office deadline i think at this point again to talk about playing politics i

00:13:16.400 I think she's just trying to maximize what she's going to get out of Kearney

00:13:18.740 in this short period of time where she has that maximum leverage.

00:13:21.440 So I'm not trying to, you know, toot the horn of the Premier here,

00:13:24.880 but I don't blame her necessarily for trying to play so close-knit with him.

00:13:29.460 Especially the political motivations.

00:13:31.160 It's just the realities, there's the ideals, and then there's the politics.

00:13:35.720 And all of them have to come into play with these things.

00:13:38.540 But, I mean, it just seems like the Emperor has no clothes nobody wants to call out.

00:13:43.240 I mean, he has really done nothing.

00:13:44.820 You just list the accomplishments.

00:13:47.380 So the question comes back, how long do we give them?

00:13:52.860 Or how long, in fact, does the mainstream media and the other people who have an opinion

00:14:00.400 such as the opposition, is two budget cycles enough to say, you've had your chance, you've

00:14:07.620 produced nothing, all right, we're coming for you?

00:14:10.860 And I would say that, you know, next year, this time next year, if there's nothing happening, he's going to be in real trouble.

00:14:18.460 We'll wait and see.

00:14:19.440 An issue, actually, he has kind of done a little bit on, and I'll segue in.

00:14:22.940 You know, it's the mass migration issue, though.

00:14:25.320 It's a big one.

00:14:27.460 He did actually scale back the amount of refugee claimants that are being accepted and some of the temporary foreign workers.

00:14:33.600 But it's still a concern.

00:14:34.800 It's still a pressure.

00:14:35.440 and they're still, I think part of the problem is the ones that are the people who are already

00:14:40.180 here who should be moved out. Yeah. The reason is expired and they won't. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, but

00:14:45.360 the conservatives are terrified of that. It's similar to the indigenous issue. I think that

00:14:48.940 politicians are only touching it, but they're going to have to step in, won't they? I would

00:14:52.040 assume so. Yeah. But I mean, the question again is when, because I mean, if you want to talk about

00:14:56.300 mass migration and whatnot is, I mean, obviously Polly, I've talked about just like opening the

00:14:59.780 floodgates and trying to curb that. But at the end of the day, this just goes back to the old 0.97

00:15:05.120 thing i don't think the conservatives want to touch it because of pandering to votes ethnic

00:15:10.160 vote i mean that's every party now doesn't really want to touch this because they're pandering to

00:15:14.400 votes that's what it really comes down to they don't want to be called racist or something

00:15:17.760 that's really what it comes down to at the end of the day i think and i don't know when it's going

00:15:21.440 to end really because it seems to be no end in sight really even when they talk about curbing

00:15:25.040 immigration like you said all the ones that are here if there are visas up or whatnot are they

00:15:30.480 they going to be booted out? No. So what do you do? Same with criminals. All these judges

00:15:35.900 that are trying to always make sure these criminals don't get deported and give them

00:15:38.780 lesser sentences. It's absurd. Yeah. I was speaking on my show about one of those incidents

00:15:44.500 today earlier with this gentleman. I want to call him that. I'm just trying to find

00:15:49.100 the name. Medhani Johans. He's a not Canadian refugee. He's had two convictions for sexual

00:15:56.940 assaults on strangers, so he's 1.00

00:15:58.900 a rapist. 0.99

00:16:01.160 Repeated breaches of court orders, 0.75

00:16:03.100 described by police as a high risk.

00:16:06.040 Won't deport him. 1.00

00:16:07.080 He's not a citizen. Why on? If we 1.00

00:16:08.960 can't even get rid of him,

00:16:11.100 but why isn't

00:16:11.940 Polyev standing on the rooftop screaming

00:16:14.980 about this one? Because actually he's not.

00:16:16.640 That's another one of these symptoms of this mass immigration. 0.98

00:16:18.840 He's scared to touch. Okay, so 1.00

00:16:20.860 there's a couple of things going on here.

00:16:22.580 I share your dismay that 1.00

00:16:24.820 we can't deport a 0.97

00:16:26.560 non-citizen double rapist i mean we the same thing happens in great britain again there is a fear of

00:16:34.400 actually coming down hard on people who commit crimes who aren't citizens but who aren't white

00:16:42.720 you know uh i'd almost like to see somebody try just to see what happens frankly because i don't

00:16:48.800 think the reaction would be near. I don't think there is an ethnic community that is going to be 0.84

00:16:56.880 so offended at the deportation of one of its members after that member has brought shame on

00:17:02.560 the community. I think somebody needs to grow a pair, as they say. I'm sure I heard you say that

00:17:11.760 once um the but the other thing is that we always assume that um ethnic immigrants are as opposed to

00:17:21.680 white immigrants are sort of natural liberal voters well some are but not all are uh some

00:17:31.200 immigrants come here from conservatively minded countries and are appalled at what they find here

00:17:38.160 in canada in terms of our looseness and some actually turn around go back home again so my 0.97

00:17:44.560 my plea to the conservatives would be recognize that not everybody who comes from another country

00:17:55.280 is a natural liberal and they might actually appreciate your support and sticking up for

00:17:59.840 the values that they hold which are not shared by this liberal government i think that you've

00:18:04.560 the nail on the head there is that's exactly it is if you can if you speak to a lot of like uh

00:18:08.640 i would say newer immigrants who came here pre-2015 they'll speak to the fact that the

00:18:14.240 immigration immigration levels that are happening now they they are the most like outwardly spoken

00:18:18.320 against that kind of thing and like he's talking about they wouldn't be against deporting somebody 1.00

00:18:22.800 who is a double rapist like who most of these people coming from like non-white immigrant 0.98

00:18:27.440 countries are quite socially conservative and would see that as a good thing as you know 0.98

00:18:31.280 know fair justice in action so again i think like exactly what you said like it's it's a

00:18:36.460 they're pandering to a base that they're pairing to a group of voters that doesn't really exist

00:18:40.800 which is which is liberal generation immigration presumptions yeah you know are aren't fair i mean

00:18:47.320 i i can't remember who it was there was an indian gentleman i don't know if it was comedian or

00:18:50.700 politician or media member said along the lines of i came all the way here to get away from india 0.99

00:18:55.140 and then the rest of india followed me uh but i mean you know it's a problem with indians just 1.00

00:19:00.060 that the amount, the volume, the environment, the economics, I mean, you know, immigrants of any 1.00

00:19:06.080 color, they're not another species. They have the same concerns. They're worried about dying on a

00:19:10.720 waiting list to get into a hospital. They want their kids to be able to afford to get a home.

00:19:14.560 They're tired of hearing their sons coming home saying, Dad, I'm a woman this week because my

00:19:18.740 teacher told me so. These are communities that conservatives can resonate in. To that point,

00:19:23.760 let me tell you a little story here. This was about a year ago. True story. A friend of mine

00:19:29.500 has this friend uh petroleum engineer hails from pakistan uh moved here with his wife

00:19:38.760 had children and one day his nine-year-old daughter comes home and starts talking to mom

00:19:45.240 and tells mom that the teacher said it would be okay if she were to kiss a girl

00:19:54.040 nine years old first of all i don't know why they're talking about that in class at that age

00:19:59.420 But they were getting the blessing of the teaching establishment that those kinds of relationships would be acceptable. 0.72

00:20:11.680 That man heard that and set the wheels in motion and has now returned to Pakistan because that's not the culture that he wants his children to be brought up in. 1.00

00:20:21.720 Now, we don't necessarily want the whole culture of Pakistan. 0.99

00:20:25.180 It's a difficult discussion. 1.00

00:20:25.880 There's some aspects of the Pakistani culture we don't want. 1.00

00:20:28.660 you know this was a this was a educated hard-working productive member of our key and 1.00

00:20:37.220 of our uh of our industry you know and they find that the laxness and the looseness of the morals

00:20:43.460 in canada not acceptable to them so in his case he went back now why can a conservative not

00:20:51.700 capitalize on that sentiment rather than saying we're going to send people back and it's going

00:20:56.500 get us into trouble especially if it's the right people that get sent back well uh key point well

00:21:03.860 ironically every time like uh immigration voting uh kind of uh drives or whatever i'd find white

00:21:10.180 immigrants from europe are honestly more liberally minded than a lot of the like ethnic ones from

00:21:15.780 middle east or you know uh eating some content so again talk going back to what we were saying like

00:21:22.020 Like, why the Conservative Party still feels the need to play so soft-handedly with minority groups is bizarre to me.

00:21:32.840 Like, I don't understand what the end goal is. 0.99

00:21:35.460 So isn't that part of it?

00:21:36.860 I mean, Pauliot hasn't been able to find a chip in the armor of the Liberals somehow, no matter what he's tried.

00:21:43.800 But part of it is he's been scared to take solid stances on some of these things, too.

00:21:47.880 I mean, you'd have to carefully consider how you approach it. 1.00

00:21:51.680 it would have to be strategic but you know we think the environment's there among the immigrant 0.98

00:21:56.320 community and non-immigrant if he could phrase it right he said he doesn't have much less to lose

00:22:02.320 anymore well certainly as we as we ended the discussion he said most immigrant communities 0.99

00:22:08.720 would be quite happy if you sent back the bad people from among their communities start with

00:22:13.280 the low-hanging phrases yes exactly and we can't do that i mean that there's one of the areas that

00:22:21.280 conservatives are all getting difficulty with too. Temporary foreign workers. And I remember that

00:22:25.860 was coming up and I had some debates. People got upset with me when I used to own my pub and

00:22:29.600 restaurant because a lot of that's where it kind of began a lot though. They were using a lot of

00:22:33.980 temporary foreign workers in the service industry. And I have literally put ads up when I owned that 0.59

00:22:40.720 pub looking for cooks, paying above the average Calgary wage because I'm just outside of the city.

00:22:47.160 I didn't even get applicants. I mean, it's not a matter of not paying enough for a good enough

00:22:50.740 environment they aren't even applying i could not get people into those jobs that is corey i've

00:22:55.780 always one of the things people always say like these guys that have piles of temporary foreign

00:22:59.300 workers that no canadian kids want these jobs why is that but then why do they put out like

00:23:03.620 hundreds of resumes and like we never get a call back like what is going on i'm this is the whole

00:23:07.620 i don't know who's not calling them back because i sure as heck would if they showed up with a resume

00:23:12.020 i was practically putting them in a headlock and dragging them into the kitchen and signing

00:23:15.380 them up for payroll they weren't applying maybe that was it well yeah i guess they heard about

00:23:22.020 that that shackle they saw in the bag but i mean i i think there's an expectation that's been built

00:23:29.140 you know this is going farther back into the the education system of people thinking they're going

00:23:33.540 to graduate and jump straight to the uh you know full-time job with a good salary and benefits and

00:23:38.660 and so on and sometimes you might need a little time in the working world first and that to be

00:23:42.340 honest i think there's a lot of a generation think they're above it well you know young zolton made

00:23:46.020 a really good point in his uh piece that we published this morning why are we bringing in

00:23:52.100 firefighters from mexico are there not people in british colombia or for that matter somewhere

00:23:59.060 else in canada if you can fly them in from mexico you can fly them in from montreal you know who

00:24:05.140 want to go and and take that job do god's work and get paid handsomely for it again speaking

00:24:11.700 as a guy who worked in the bush in BC, you know, as a surveyor and for 20 years, 30 years ago,

00:24:17.860 the predominant firefighting forces in British Columbia came from the reserves.

00:24:22.420 Getting back to people who don't want to apply for the jobs anymore. And that's because of a

00:24:25.700 larger social and cultural and economic, just all sorts of things. We can get into the whole

00:24:29.780 morass of the challenges on reserves right now, but they are not good labor pools to dip into

00:24:34.660 in British Columbia at this time. So there isn't a domestic force, but they've also brought in

00:24:39.620 a whole bunch of contracts to make sure nobody else can get them off of the reserves, these

00:24:44.660 agreements to make sure they had that industry cornered. Again, sensitive area that no politician

00:24:50.020 wants to touch with a 10-foot pole, but the people that they had sort of contracted and assumed would

00:24:55.700 fill that role because they live in those areas and they need the work and they can be paid very,

00:24:59.620 very well for it, aren't able to provide the actual labor yet at the same time the protections

00:25:05.140 are in. So they have the contractor. They can't even issue the jobs and take a cut.

00:25:15.220 I mean, I'm certain a lot of the ones coming off the reserve and fighting the fires and so on,

00:25:19.540 but it's a mess. They did things when they brought in native contractors when I was surveying up in 1.00

00:25:23.380 Tumblr Ridge area and Charlie Lake and where all these contractors, I would have 12 different

00:25:28.500 contractors from one reserve and uh it was just it's hard to explain how brutal it was

00:25:35.700 and that's part of why we don't work up there anymore we just couldn't it was uh but you weren't

00:25:40.660 allowed to hire anybody off the bloody reserve so the contractor falls apart then him and his brother

00:25:45.860 split into two new contractors it's just a degree of that has gone into the firefighting and that's

00:25:50.820 where it's a difficult area because you have to have a standing force i mean for three quarters

00:25:55.300 of the year you don't need them yeah and how do you maintain training and availability and keep

00:26:01.860 them employed and ready to be able to and that's difficult for anybody native or non-native but

00:26:05.780 like it's a tough job what do you do how do you pay somebody to sit around for eight months a

00:26:09.700 year but then be available to say hey we're going to need you 80 hours a week for the next month

00:26:13.780 because we've got fires hitting it's difficult um though it's a good piece you put out it's

00:26:18.820 ask those questions then why isn't that available yeah and then speaking like the young people are

00:26:24.100 you're talking about wanting work and it is true like there is a lot of like young people complain

00:26:27.780 there's no work and then expecting to get a you know a full-time paying job with benefits

00:26:30.980 because i think it speaks to the fact that i and this might be a controversy i think canada has a

00:26:36.340 very over-educated population we have a lot of people who are going into and speaking someone

00:26:40.220 who's a recent grad like i just graduated the year previous we have lots of people who are going into

00:26:45.120 programs where there is no not even guaranteed job no real form of employment after you get that

00:26:51.480 degree and there's this pressure societally to get a university because that's seen as like oh the

00:26:56.360 you're not smart unless you get a university degree i know loads of guys who didn't who went

00:27:00.400 straight into high school into the trades making way more money than i'm making right now lots of

00:27:04.020 people with better degrees than i have make more money than them and i think it's because in canada

00:27:08.340 we have this idea that to be somebody you need to have a university degree you need to go to

00:27:11.480 post-secondary institution and and not to say that you know trade school is good and all but like

00:27:15.000 loads of people getting arts degrees and i ironically as a journalist speaking about this

00:27:19.760 to say i'm one of them i'm part of the problem but i think there are people you said the expectation

00:27:24.900 is the expectation is also again the societal thought that because i have this i should have

00:27:30.980 a better job than this person who doesn't have it and i think that is a definitely an issue and i'd

00:27:35.840 say not a necessarily a good thing that we're in such an educated population so if we could change

00:27:39.320 some of those issues which is a big ask i mean that's where we could reduce all that temporary

00:27:42.840 foreign worker load that's been coming in because the pool potentially is there uh but i mean it's

00:27:50.200 a difficult well you know he's he's actually right on had um gwen morgan sitting in that chair a

00:27:58.280 couple of weeks ago and we're talking about building ai data centers in central alberta

00:28:05.320 and he said look ai is taking a tremendous amount of work out of the you know they used to be

00:28:10.520 available it's not there anymore so my advice to young people is go and get the qualifications

00:28:16.760 you're going to need to actually build the ai data center then you will be then you'll be making real

00:28:23.560 money and those are big challenges coming i mean that's a whole whole show we could do i mean the

00:28:29.720 demographic shift due to ai the ai data centers that uh a lot of them they've turned into the new

00:28:34.280 chemtrails because the paranoid are now applying every possible hill to them i mean they're just

00:28:38.360 large buildings with computers. They use a lot of energy. Fair enough. We have a lot of energy,

00:28:43.320 but as far as employment, they're not that great. I mean, you know, a multi-billion dollar facility,

00:28:49.400 and it's really only going to create a couple hundred permanent jobs. There's where some of

00:28:54.360 the discussion is going to universal basic income or how are we going to model and change our

00:28:57.880 society when we've had a massive category of jobs that really have vanished and they're going to.

00:29:02.920 that's uh but again it's maybe we should reevaluate how many temporary foreign workers

00:29:08.760 we got i mean i don't know i don't mind serving coffee at tim hortons if i had and i don't want

00:29:12.760 to go this route but you know a basic income that brought me up to this level and i'm making extra

00:29:17.240 now with the physical job that ai can't do frankly at our age we better be better off lobbying for

00:29:24.600 higher pensions yeah true enough it's not like my job length is going terrible these guys can

00:29:29.640 worry about the universal basically oh yeah thanks but uh as always we seem to wait till

00:29:35.000 everything becomes a crisis before we look at fixing it though and i guess the generation's

00:29:38.680 got a scary thing to look ahead to uh all right well let's move on to the last one i mean there's

00:29:43.240 something that they i can't do yet anyways until robocop comes along uh police servicing and people

00:29:51.000 on the ground uh uh calgary police service dave what's going on oh well they had worthy park

00:29:57.400 shooting apparently two cops pulled over this guy that was i mean it was just a routine from what

00:30:02.600 we know it was a routine traffic stop over near edworthy park which i guess technically is in the

00:30:06.500 southwest off star sea trail just west of downtown and i guess yeah he shot one of the cops twice

00:30:11.860 fled into the park he ended up carjacking somebody then car got stuck he got out and he was basically

00:30:17.880 a running gun battle with the cops and there was nearby civilians that said that he was trying to

00:30:21.400 shoot at them too it was all over the place so there was a fairly decently long gun battle there

00:30:25.840 And then he ended up, the cops found him by the river, I can't remember if it was by the river or in the river, and he apparently died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

00:30:33.480 But afterwards, the police said that he was, they found out he was like a known organized crime target that they were aware of, but they still haven't released a name or anything.

00:30:42.480 So that's kind of what everyone's wondering, why they haven't released a name yet.

00:30:45.260 I mean, I know it's part of an ongoing investigation, but it still seems like if the guy is deceased and he was a non-criminal, you know, member, why has there been no name or even any descriptors about the guy at all?

00:30:57.380 And I've seen people defending, you know, the police holding it back.

00:31:00.440 But, I mean, Jackson, you've been, you know, tasked with calling and finding out things and so on.

00:31:05.020 Often in many, many cases, as soon as somebody's been charged or if it's been settled, the name comes out.

00:31:09.820 I mean, you know, you can say alleged and all sorts of things around it, but the name is not a secret.

00:31:15.260 It tends to come out. Why do you think they're sitting on this one?

00:31:18.920 I have no idea. And it is bizarre, because like you said, like, I mean, that's like a daily occurrence.

00:31:22.980 We call on CPS saying, you know, can I get a statement about this? Can I statement about that?

00:31:26.200 Can you tell me more about this case? And they're usually, to be fair to them, quite, quite eager.

00:31:30.380 Not eager, actually. They're not eager at all, actually.

00:31:32.340 But they're usually quite willing to hand over information if you push hard enough.

00:31:35.820 So it is, I mean, I don't know why.

00:31:38.180 In this particular case, maybe with the organized crime aspect, there might be some other cases he's involved and they don't want to.

00:31:43.960 But surely, if you're involved in organized crime and know the guy, you'd know he's been killed or killed himself or whatever.

00:31:50.780 Oh, and I'll mention the elephant in the room before I go to Nigel. 0.65

00:31:53.900 Organized gangs in Calgary, we don't have Swedish ones. 1.00

00:31:56.680 We don't have Dukabor ones. 1.00

00:31:58.480 They tend to be ethnic minorities. 1.00

00:32:00.320 And when I moved to Calgary, and it changes. 0.99

00:32:02.680 These gangs were the big thing, actually, because they were still remnants from the influx of the boat people and so on in the 80s. 0.93

00:32:09.200 Back in the day when I was a kid, in the 90s? 0.98

00:32:10.800 Yeah.

00:32:12.060 It's respectable, though.

00:32:13.200 Yeah, I know, right? 1.00

00:32:13.960 Jamaican gangs became problematic into the 90s. 1.00

00:32:18.340 It just comes with disenfranchised young immigrants.

00:32:22.460 It tends to happen often, things like that.

00:32:24.680 But there's a lot of speculation.

00:32:25.740 The bottom line is they just don't want to cause the headache when it's realized that this is probably not somebody with a name that's associated with homework.

00:32:34.940 Yes.

00:32:35.820 Well, unfortunately, I think the police are very sensitive to that.

00:32:41.340 Not necessarily because they want to be sensitive, but because the police commissions that supervise their activities have a heavy leavening of woke people in it who jump on them if they say too much.

00:32:54.940 And give anybody fuel for that argument we were having earlier about maybe it's time to send a few people back.

00:33:03.040 Because that's not their vision of how they want society to look.

00:33:07.920 So I think if you knew the whole story, and maybe we will someday, it is possible that there's an ongoing investigation.

00:33:17.080 That's possible, that he's part of or was part of.

00:33:21.540 But it could also just simply be that the police know who they have to not offend and are therefore careful not to give offense.

00:33:30.380 Well, it could be, but ACERT's also involved now, and I got in touch with them, and they said that they don't release names of people involved in an incident without consent, so it would be the person involved who's dead or their next of kin, so I don't think the next of kin are going to want the name to come out, and the thing about ACERT as well that I find odd, I've talked about this with Dave, is a lot of the ACERT reports when they're finally done investigations still don't name people, regardless, so it's another thing to throw into the mix, really, so yeah.

00:33:57.020 I mean, it gets, I mean, I'm just suspecting on this, even if that's not the case in this case, we've seen it in other cases, particularly in the UK.

00:34:04.180 And that's when it becomes dangerous.

00:34:05.520 I mean, for years, the reports were squeaking out and so on, but the police wouldn't talk about it and so on.

00:34:11.420 There were rape gangs.

00:34:12.680 There were grooming gangs.

00:34:13.680 There were countless young ladies being molested and abused and so on. 0.99

00:34:20.840 And the bottom line, when it's all finally come out, they were Pakistani gangs.

00:34:24.400 That's not saying every Pakistani person, by all means, is participating in those.

00:34:29.600 But in those particular gangs, they were all Pakistani people. 0.95

00:34:34.260 How do you solve it if you won't look at the root? 1.00

00:34:37.480 Well, they won't look at the root and they won't even take action when the story is clear.

00:34:44.940 One of the ringleaders of those rape gangs was actually caught, tried, convicted.

00:34:53.280 He was not a citizen.

00:34:54.400 and they still wouldn't deport him.

00:34:57.380 This came out about six weeks ago.

00:34:59.420 I remember hearing that.

00:35:00.320 So they have the same problem over there.

00:35:05.400 They just can't bring themselves to take action against a criminal.

00:35:10.540 Yeah, it seems like, I don't know, I've talked about this before,

00:35:12.680 but it seems like they care more about the human rights of criminals

00:35:15.220 than the actual, you know, law-abiding citizens.

00:35:18.500 I just don't understand how that ever came to be an ideology.

00:35:21.240 And that's when I get upset.

00:35:22.320 I mean, political correctness is usually annoying.

00:35:24.400 But it's when it becomes dangerous.

00:35:26.780 We've got a problem.

00:35:28.000 I remember an article I went off about, I think it was CTV.

00:35:31.380 Well, it wasn't just that.

00:35:32.500 It was the press release from the police service.

00:35:34.420 But it talked about, be on the lookout for this repeat sex offender, dangerous,

00:35:38.060 goes after children, this and that.

00:35:39.640 We've released this woman. 0.84

00:35:41.640 She's very, very dangerous.

00:35:43.320 And, you know, keep an eye out.

00:35:45.900 And that's fine until you click through on the press release and you realize it's a man.

00:35:49.800 He's got five o'clock shadow, but he's got a couple earrings on.

00:35:52.800 he's identifying as trans. They're calling him a woman. Now, we need a description when you're

00:35:59.520 pointing out somebody dangerous. People looking around will think, wow, there's this dangerous

00:36:03.900 woman wandering around. I'll keep my eyes peeled. No, this was not a woman. Let's not be politically

00:36:09.320 correct when they're talking about public safety, but they won't do it. And we've seen that as well,

00:36:13.580 I think, Jackson, you know, where they don't like talking about the gender or the skin color and

00:36:18.600 things like that when there's somebody on the loose. It's not a matter of racism. We just want

00:36:21.960 to point out who it is i think it's not just the i don't think it's not just the fear of again the

00:36:25.560 societal uh repercussions or like the you know talking about the woke and everything else i

00:36:29.800 think it's also a fear that that person whoever it is if they are convicted that can push that

00:36:34.980 if they are say they are a woman identifying as a man or vice versa or whatever it is and they said

00:36:40.360 oh because they misgendered me in this press release that's this form of whatever the hell

00:36:43.860 and i can get like the you know just complicate the case so i think it's they might be worried

00:36:48.220 about that as well because obviously we seem like the politicization of judges and saying oh this

00:36:51.740 could this could constitute a a form of discrimination and the case is thrown into

00:36:55.980 disrepute or something i i feel like there there is more sides to i think than just the cultural

00:37:01.020 thing i mean one was very recent in chestermere where there was surveillance of a guy who was

00:37:05.400 repeatedly assaulting women in parks out there and they just talked about it being a man and

00:37:11.040 gave a height description i think that was it and you looked well this is a south asian man

00:37:17.100 I understand. We don't want people out there becoming fearful of every South Asian person

00:37:21.700 they see or targeting them or taking a revenge on them. That certainly is. But this is a person

00:37:27.140 on the loose right now. And yes, if you're in a park and there's a person of that hue who is 0.99

00:37:33.180 looking a little more dangerous than the others, maybe you want to... And if it was a white person, 0.99

00:37:36.460 same thing. I want to know what the person looks like. I don't care about the race, but they won't

00:37:40.480 touch it but where does that land with media yeah well it's definitely one part of the problem as

00:37:49.780 well i would say too especially sort of the left-leaning mainstream media i guess you could

00:37:53.620 say they just kind of go along with liberal policies it would seem that is definitely a part

00:37:57.380 because i mean actually there's an interesting this happened a while ago but there was a police

00:38:02.140 news release that we got that listed the names of all these criminals i can't remember for what it

00:38:07.580 it was some sort of maybe smuggling ring or something listed all of them and they were all

00:38:10.220 ethnic names we published the names and i went to multiple mainstream media outlets that all

00:38:16.220 probably got the same release no names in any of them so that's a problem actually there's one

00:38:20.780 today actually was a drug ring i think was in calgary a chest or something eight people arrested

00:38:26.380 and i as i get a lot a lot of my news on just reddit and the article i saw the headline read

00:38:31.740 the article and i had to go to the actual comments of the reddit post to speak to somebody actually

00:38:35.820 they didn't include in the article fear of the names of the people and the names actually finally

00:38:38.940 left it's quite a multi-ethnic gang you had like yeah well they had a couple yeah i said it was

00:38:43.900 it was a very like they probably got some quotas they got on there you would look good on like a

00:38:47.580 poster at school or something with everybody yeah anybody can join yeah see now you you put the names

00:38:55.660 in you're just a bad person i blame that on dave to be honest you know the other story that's going

00:39:00.860 around right now corey that i i'm going to be fascinated to see where this one lands

00:39:06.700 is the fauci diaries have you been paying any attention to it he's that the senate has got the

00:39:15.500 the fauci diaries and he is with a view to i think perhaps writing a book one day

00:39:22.780 keeping a very careful record of everything he said and who he said it to during the covet crisis

00:39:30.140 and in the hands of the people who are dealing with this he comes across as an outright liar in

00:39:39.020 some cases and certainly highly deceptive and drafting his message from the very start

00:39:46.940 and you're going to find that there are people who went through hell in covet and they went through

00:39:56.140 hell on the basis of the recommendations of Anthony Fauci and people like him who worked for

00:40:02.060 him or who thought that he was a genius. And the COVID show is not over. No, it's not. And the

00:40:11.600 grilling he got in front of a committee, I was, I was, if you want some clips, and as he sat there

00:40:17.660 and smugly just saying, I've, he just kept repeating the line, as instructed by my counsel,

00:40:21.760 I'm taking the fifth. And he even asked him things like, you know, what color is the jacket you're

00:40:26.360 wearing? On the advice of my legal, he was instructed to not answer anything. That's an

00:40:32.000 insult to the people. That's a gross, gross insult. It's not over. There's hundreds of thousands of

00:40:38.300 words to go through. Thousands of pages. I mean, there's just somebody who would keep a diary

00:40:45.300 with that much information about themselves and noting with satisfaction that so-and-so called

00:40:50.820 me today and they said i did great you know this kind of thing oh my word but anyway there's a i

00:40:58.020 just say this for the benefit of many people who gave up a lot to follow their consequences during

00:41:05.540 those years you may well get the last it won't be a laugh but you may have the last word i hope some

00:41:12.100 folks are held accountable i mean he led the charge on a lot of the you know the policies that ended

00:41:16.660 up coming in over here that was the authority that was the north american top person in there

00:41:21.460 he was the guy and it turns out that a whole lot of what they were putting out was just bs

00:41:27.380 too i mean did you see that thing that they did about was it um oh miscarriages they were saying

00:41:32.100 oh that's not that many miscarriages and there was something that came out that said that they knew

00:41:35.060 that the rate of miscarriages from taking maybe vaccine could be very high compared to what they

00:41:38.740 were saying some of the discussion doing basically the fact that children without

00:41:44.020 comorbidities were virtually

00:41:46.020 immune to it. It was nothing more

00:41:47.880 than, you know, those statistics were right in front

00:41:49.940 of everybody's faces. You know, what did they do?

00:41:51.980 They said, we must vaccinate people under five years old.

00:41:55.020 Why?

00:41:56.320 Yet. Well, hopefully

00:41:57.960 we get some of those answers. That's a whole other

00:42:00.060 show, too, though. Credit rabbit hole

00:42:01.900 to drop in our last few minutes.

00:42:03.940 You get to read the

00:42:05.820 100,000 words first.

00:42:09.200 That's what AI

00:42:09.940 is for. We need a data center.

00:42:11.740 Yeah, we need a data.

00:42:14.020 Well, okay. We're getting towards the end. We're getting into the parting shots. What

00:42:19.160 did you have in mind, Nigel, to throw out there?

00:42:21.160 Well, you know, I was really intrigued by that story of the bait and switch with Mr.

00:42:26.480 Trump getting out of Ankara there. So they had reason to believe that Air Force One might

00:42:31.600 be targeted by an Iranian missile. So in front of the cameras, Trump goes in, waves, moves

00:42:39.920 up the corridor leaves the plane by a hatch at the uh at the tail end and then is transferred

00:42:48.480 using one of the catering company uh trucks so you know the ones that sort of go up and down

00:42:55.280 gets in that takes over to another plane he leaves in that and air force one carries on

00:43:00.560 luckily nothing happened to air force one and a lot of the press who were on it just scandalized

00:43:06.320 but you know i couldn't help thinking there's probably something about a food truck because

00:43:11.200 didn't mr trump also campaign driving a mcdonald's vehicle or something like that

00:43:20.720 i think taylor swift was brought into concerts that way through a catering type of box before

00:43:26.880 he's maybe trump's taking cues from the pop stars they talk to each other

00:43:30.320 Well, I'm a reality TV guy,

00:43:32.620 should I turn into a pop star and surprise me?

00:43:34.760 Yeah, he's taken worse advice, I think, over the years.

00:43:38.820 All right, what do you got there?

00:43:40.740 I'll stick with Trump, and this is,

00:43:42.500 not to just harp on it, but his statement today

00:43:45.160 saying that the USA is total control,

00:43:47.460 straighter home moves, obviously,

00:43:48.460 this is what, Grand Hog Day now,

00:43:50.120 it seems like this has been the dozens of times he's said this.

00:43:52.980 But I think a recent statement from the Iranians

00:43:54.860 saying that they will not concede the war

00:43:57.580 until Trump's out of office,

00:43:58.500 but I think it just speaks to a larger issue with this.

00:44:00.860 They shouldn't have gotten involved in this war to begin with.

00:44:02.420 And I think it was the last time I was on pipeline

00:44:04.640 we talked about the Iran war

00:44:05.740 and I think at that point we felt it was a new thing,

00:44:08.440 it was a novel thing

00:44:09.100 and yet here we are three months later

00:44:11.240 and it's still trudging along

00:44:13.120 and I just seemingly with no foreseeable end in sight

00:44:16.300 and just, yeah, statements from Trump

00:44:18.220 and statements from the Iranians

00:44:19.120 just doesn't seem like there's going to be

00:44:20.120 any sort of culmination anytime soon.

00:44:23.000 I've seen a lot of reason between them.

00:44:25.260 What do you got, Dave?

00:44:26.080 Well, Corey, mine actually has to deal

00:44:27.360 the union of british columbia indian chiefs we were talking about the two of us they released a

00:44:31.760 letter i'm looking here it was sunday that they basically were calling on ottawa and the alberta

00:44:35.760 government to shut down their whole west coast oil pipeline proposal and there's a whole lot of

00:44:41.440 odd things about this group but apparently and i found this out the chief is a guy named stuart

00:44:46.320 phillip and this is something that i found a little interesting tidbit that might be worth

00:44:49.440 looking into his wife i believe her name is joan happens to be a ndp mla for a vanc vancouver

00:44:55.920 Strathcona since 2023. So yeah, I don't know. It seems very interesting against pipelines in

00:45:02.000 West NDP MLA. No conflict there at all. No, not at all. Ah, wow. What do you expect with those

00:45:08.560 groups? Good thing I just like to remind everybody. Oh, I've touched it already. I got to watch how

00:45:14.320 far I go in my touching or I'll get in trouble. I mean, you know, the immigrants community can 1.00

00:45:18.960 touch and touch and not get deported, but myself, I'd be called out too quickly if I touched the

00:45:23.040 wrong spot with indigenous issues all right that's enough of my leading talk i've eaten up i don't

00:45:28.480 have any closing remark to make after that thank you very much for joining me in this diverse and

00:45:34.400 colorful uh panel today for the pipeline at least by our standards we got some youth among us and

00:45:40.960 and different colored shirts the average age what what's a subscription to the western standard cost

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