Western Standard - August 20, 2026


Will Carney strike a deal before Trump’s tariff deadline？


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00:00:00.000 Good evening, my name is Corey Morgan, I'm a columnist with the Western Standard and
00:00:28.120 you're watching The Pipeline. This is our weekly show where a panel of us luminaries from the
00:00:33.840 newsroom will get together and break down and discuss the top news items or whatever we feel
00:00:38.540 are worth discussing, at least for this period of the week, and interpret them for you. There's a
00:00:43.580 whole collection of wisdom in this room. Today, I'll start on the far end. We have Dave Winnick
00:00:48.020 over there filling things in. Hey, Corey, how's it going? Very extraordinary. Good. Glad to have
00:00:54.600 on board. News editor Dave Naylor. Hello, Corey. Hey, long time no see. Indeed. And former opinion
00:01:01.620 editor, but still current contributor, Nigel Henniford. Great to be here there, Corey. Great
00:01:06.000 to have you in. So we're going to cover a few things that are breaking. I guess the big one
00:01:10.240 has been all over the news, the confusion, the speculation, the fighting, the fear, the
00:01:14.420 Trump. Yeah, when Trump comes into anything, that's the way things go. So took it right to
00:01:20.800 two hours before the deadline with adding more tariffs to more Canadian products backed off,
00:01:27.720 have three more days and possibly a deal may be struck.
00:01:31.560 I'll start with Mr. Naylor.
00:01:32.980 What the hell's going on?
00:01:33.960 I don't know.
00:01:34.660 Okay.
00:01:35.180 Well, that's your news edit.
00:01:36.420 Well, I know.
00:01:37.580 You know, I'm just telling the truth.
00:01:39.180 Nobody really seems to have a huge handle on it.
00:01:43.440 Trump came out today and said, big win for American farmers, no more tariffs for them.
00:01:49.360 So a lot of people online took that to mean the end of supply management,
00:01:55.000 which, of course, you remember Carney saying that that would never ever happen.
00:01:59.860 So that's up in the air.
00:02:01.400 That's confusing.
00:02:02.840 And there's all, you know, all the quotas on steel and aluminum and lumber.
00:02:08.620 Nobody's really hit, come out with firm targets yet.
00:02:11.540 But, you know, it looks like a deal is close.
00:02:14.920 Dominic LeBlanc, our trade guy, and Mr. Greer, the American trade guy,
00:02:19.700 came out today and said all the right things,
00:02:21.920 and Trump said all the right things.
00:02:24.040 It looks like we're going to have a deal,
00:02:26.600 but Mr. Carney has remained silent.
00:02:29.680 He's about to have a First Minister's conference,
00:02:32.560 so maybe we'll get more from him tonight.
00:02:34.680 But everything seems to be up in the air,
00:02:37.700 but you get the sense we're close.
00:02:39.900 Yeah, well, you know, Mark Carney has made it expressly clear,
00:02:42.820 as every prime minister does, as every opposition leader does.
00:02:45.180 Don't worry, we'll never touch supply management.
00:02:47.080 But he also said not too long ago that the tariffs on the Gordie-Hall Bridge
00:02:50.900 would, you know, I mean, the tolls will be carried by the Americans as well.
00:02:56.640 And that sort of fell by the wayside when Mr. Trump...
00:02:58.620 You mean he lied?
00:03:00.120 He misrepresented. Yes, perhaps.
00:03:03.960 Well, you've got to say, Corey, you know,
00:03:05.840 if everything hung on the right of a handful of Quebec farmers
00:03:10.040 to charge everybody more for milk, butter, and cheese and eggs
00:03:13.460 than they ought to be charging,
00:03:17.020 you can see why he might fold.
00:03:20.360 Even with the political backsplash that there would be from that,
00:03:25.400 because certainly, I mean, these guys have held the rest of the country
00:03:27.860 to ransom for years, decades.
00:03:31.500 But if that was the breaking point, I can see him folding.
00:03:36.380 I mean, I'm hoping so.
00:03:37.580 I know my hopes are thin on it.
00:03:39.540 I mean, supply management, you know, Dave, like that's been a sacred cow in Canada for a-
00:03:44.980 I've been trying to figure that out for years, why that's still even allowed.
00:03:47.240 Like how has no prime minister ever tried to stop it?
00:03:49.920 Like even conservative prime ministers, like why has this been allowed to go on and then basically just be allowed to basically screw the rest of the country over with like this for years?
00:03:56.940 Because I mean, there's that whole, what was it?
00:03:58.960 I think, I think you might have wrote about this, Corey.
00:04:01.180 I think it was really good ago.
00:04:01.960 I've read it in Utah.
00:04:02.440 Well, I mean, well, that, but I mean that video of that guy showing them dumping out millions of liters of milk.
00:04:07.220 Like how has this been allowed to go on for so long?
00:04:09.320 I just never understood that.
00:04:10.600 Well, it comes with a big capital Q, because now it's come to the point of concentrating dairy farms in Canada.
00:04:16.520 Quebec is responsible for 50% of Canada's dairy production now.
00:04:20.580 And the only thing that prime ministers and politicians are more afraid of than upsetting Quebecers is upsetting indigenous chiefs.
00:04:26.820 So, I mean, they're terrified of stirring that up right now.
00:04:29.580 And with a referendum coming up in Quebec this fall, now they come to think of it, I don't know if Carney would bend on that one.
00:04:35.420 Maybe.
00:04:36.660 But, you know, in some ways he's in a strong position because if you were a Quebecer,
00:04:41.960 would you really want to vote for leaving Canada knowing that you'd have to come to terms with Trump
00:04:49.300 if you did it in the next two years?
00:04:52.260 Well, if Carney hasn't been doing a smash-up job, maybe they would prefer that PQ is dealing with...
00:04:58.360 But, I mean, it's a side note.
00:05:00.040 The PQ just announced they won't hold a referendum until Trump's gone.
00:05:03.480 Yeah.
00:05:04.440 I rest my case.
00:05:06.420 The other big thing out of the trade talks is Trump posting a picture of himself
00:05:11.400 digging the Keystone Pipeline out of the graveyard.
00:05:15.960 Mr. Winnick's expertise.
00:05:17.760 I thought you guys did that with AI.
00:05:21.320 No, no.
00:05:21.680 Was that a day all in?
00:05:24.480 It's not a Dave Naylor original.
00:05:26.040 It's not a Dave Naylor original, apparently.
00:05:28.460 Or whoever runs his true central account, I guess.
00:05:31.740 So could Keystone be revived?
00:05:33.200 Well, that's the whole thing that everyone's talking about, but no one really knows what he means by that because they've already been talking about South Bow and I think Bridger Pipeline in the States have been talking about doing a deal that uses parts of the Keystone Pipeline to go to Wyoming.
00:05:45.400 And Trump actually just approved a cross-border permit for that pipeline.
00:05:49.620 I think it was April 30th he did that.
00:05:52.200 So I think that's what people are talking about, but I don't know if they're going to talk about maybe expanding that into the full Keystone XL Pipeline and reviving it totally.
00:05:58.620 because, again, there's so much stuff up in the air about this announcement
00:06:01.780 that no one actually knows for sure what's going to happen yet,
00:06:04.200 but everyone thinks it's probably the Southboat merger project he's talking about.
00:06:07.660 That would be 550,000 barrels a day going sell,
00:06:12.240 which is well on the way for Premier Smith's promise of double production.
00:06:18.460 Well, it also gives you some idea of how quickly he expects to sort things out
00:06:22.040 in the Strait of Hormuz.
00:06:23.820 Yes. 0.70
00:06:24.140 As long as that, as long as the American Tartar is.
00:06:27.600 So, I mean, you can't build the thing overnight.
00:06:32.420 It's going to take a while to get done.
00:06:34.220 Although the pipeline is built on the border, isn't it?
00:06:38.420 We'll leave pretty close.
00:06:39.500 It's not like they spit it out of the grass.
00:06:41.320 I think it's just sitting there.
00:06:43.960 I don't know what it would take to bring it back into.
00:06:46.940 Well, Trump seems to be a bit obsessed by this.
00:06:51.280 And I think it's because on day one when he went into office,
00:06:54.220 sleepy Joe Biden cancelled
00:06:56.220 the keystone. So I think
00:06:58.320 Trump is going to say, you know, turn it around
00:07:00.380 and this is another thing he can say.
00:07:02.240 Trump did this, I've
00:07:03.600 revoked it, and I've
00:07:06.360 done it this time, and we're helping
00:07:08.220 Americans get, you know, energy
00:07:10.340 sufficient.
00:07:11.840 He picked up 400,000 barrels
00:07:14.480 a day from Venezuela
00:07:15.700 if he wants to. 1.00
00:07:18.100 This is about ensuring the American
00:07:20.340 oil prices and keeping gas
00:07:22.420 prices low.
00:07:23.020 So he has every incentive. Maybe it's Canada that doesn't have the incentive to go through with the thing and accelerate our own oil export.
00:07:34.100 If Trump wants it, it's going to put more pressure on Mark Carney to agree to it.
00:07:40.720 So then in theory, I know Corey will disagree with me, but in theory then you'll have a pipeline under the liberals going south, pipeline under the liberals going west.
00:07:52.860 What uses would they have for a conservative government anymore?
00:07:56.660 It's the liberals that got the pipelines built.
00:07:58.600 Well, there was something as well too.
00:08:00.120 I saw that.
00:08:00.860 I can't remember.
00:08:01.480 It was earlier in the year.
00:08:02.700 There was rumors that Carney was actually maybe thinking of using Keystone as a bargaining chip in the trade talks
00:08:08.660 because apparently he'd heard that there had been actually private sector interest in reviving that.
00:08:13.600 So maybe this has been like in the cards all along.
00:08:15.820 Who knows?
00:08:16.220 And they finally just pulled it out at the last minute, maybe get this deal done.
00:08:18.980 But like I said, we haven't heard exactly what's happening with Keystone yet,
00:08:21.600 but I'm assuming we will be probably in the next day or so.
00:08:24.240 I'm certainly not in Carney's shoes, but I mean, if you're playing pipeline leverage, 0.53
00:08:29.260 something that clown should have done a year ago
00:08:31.440 is fast track the one to the west coast 0.93
00:08:34.060 I mean the thing is you've got another
00:08:35.740 suitor over there you know you want to keep
00:08:37.660 the girlfriend on it's just as long as 1.00
00:08:39.720 they know there's another one making eyes at you over
00:08:41.660 there and you know they're going to say well
00:08:43.580 let's develop our relationship further
00:08:45.740 and he's dragging his heels on
00:08:47.720 getting it to the bloody coast it's talk
00:08:49.580 and talk and talk and talk I mean we wrote that recent
00:08:51.660 article on Carney's accomplishments I think it was
00:08:53.640 one of our smallest ones yet to date wasn't it
00:08:56.160 only three paragraphs
00:08:57.520 So, you know, when things got active in the Straits of Hormuz,
00:09:02.720 the big story was that the Yanks were selling oil out of the refineries, 0.55
00:09:10.260 the processing plants on the Gulf, but not the Hormuz, the Gulf of America.
00:09:16.460 So what's the, is that still the case?
00:09:20.200 Are they still pumping it through there?
00:09:21.940 Because if they are, if that's the game, then of course they would like cheap Canadian oil, ship it down to the south, sell it on the world market for more.
00:09:34.560 I mean, this is the theory behind the pipelines that we are pursuing is to access the world market.
00:09:41.280 I find it very credible that Mr. Trump would want to put the KXL back online.
00:09:49.660 Oh, it's a great value-added deal for the United States, whether it's for domestic supply or if they're going to upgrade it.
00:09:56.600 Sure, it's a good deal.
00:09:59.860 And they have an insatiable appetite for oil.
00:10:02.680 I'll be happy to fill it out.
00:10:05.400 I think a lot of world leaders are finally realizing that reality, despite their ideology, the world's nowhere even close to coming off oil yet.
00:10:13.920 What happened at the shutdown at the Shredder Hormuz?
00:10:15.860 Look how quickly everything changes from a quick shutdown of like a couple weeks.
00:10:18.880 Look what changed.
00:10:19.360 So, yeah, of course, yeah.
00:10:20.500 Yeah, you know, Germany learned that pretty hard once things got shaken up over there
00:10:24.040 and when they'd gotten so dependent on alternative energy.
00:10:27.960 I mean, if that was the case.
00:10:29.800 Under pressure from Trump, the new British Prime Minister, Burnham,
00:10:33.000 is looking at reopening the North Sea for developments.
00:10:36.160 I saw that, yeah.
00:10:37.020 That'll be another.
00:10:38.280 They tore so much of it out of the sea.
00:10:40.500 Yes.
00:10:41.660 Well, I mean, the money, the dollars and cents really are all what it comes down to in the end, though.
00:10:45.620 I mean, you want public support.
00:10:46.640 But you can talk about all the principles and everything you like.
00:10:49.360 When it costs them that much to fill up their car or heat their house,
00:10:52.920 they're going to vote somebody out if they get too upset from that.
00:10:55.460 So, I mean, politicians are inspired to get that supply run.
00:11:00.900 So, what do you think, though?
00:11:01.920 We got a three-day deadline now, is it?
00:11:04.320 Three-day deadline.
00:11:06.620 Tick, tick, tick, tick.
00:11:08.320 Till the next one.
00:11:09.280 Yeah.
00:11:09.700 Till the next deadline.
00:11:10.520 It's the case with Trump.
00:11:11.820 It's always moving goalposts.
00:11:13.060 But I mean, because Kuzma is still day by day practically now, and I saw a brilliant article in a column in the Globe and Mail saying, you know what, we don't need American trade, and losing Kuzma is not a big deal.
00:11:25.340 I mean, the Globe really outdid themselves with that beauty.
00:11:27.860 Well, I understand it wasn't the Globe, it was one of their columnists, but oh, wow.
00:11:31.840 Yeah, we kind of need America.
00:11:33.640 Yeah.
00:11:34.880 Yeah.
00:11:35.160 Well, is it 4% with China, like 2% with the rest of the world, the rest is American trade?
00:11:42.380 as it's one of the biggest
00:11:44.000 consumer markets on the planet.
00:11:45.200 Even if you don't like it,
00:11:48.780 that's the situation today.
00:11:50.400 And to talk to whoever this person
00:11:52.280 was about not
00:11:54.140 needing America.
00:11:57.120 The sad fact
00:11:58.320 of the matter, even in the auto industry back
00:12:00.160 there, the Honda plant
00:12:01.760 begins with an A.
00:12:05.000 At any rate, the
00:12:06.120 Honda plant that was established there was based
00:12:08.180 on selling Hondas into the
00:12:10.160 United States, not selling Hondas in Canada.
00:12:12.380 So, of course, Canada needs the American export market, and that's what they're standing to lose in the auto industry as a result of Trump's determination to bring that production south of the border, which is all for an entirely different reason, strategy, making America capable of building its own war material and not having to rely on other people.
00:12:40.300 So that's just, that isn't even an economic argument for Trump.
00:12:45.840 The automotive, I mean, that's been an area of difficulty for Ontario, you know, in the economy and votes in general down there.
00:12:55.280 If they keep losing all of these, I mean, all of the electric vehicle ideas and notions that the past prime minister put it have failed.
00:13:01.860 And now the conventional vehicle market is disappearing.
00:13:05.640 from Stellantis announced this week they're looking at selling their uh their plant down in
00:13:10.320 Ontario yes kind of bleak for the automotive uh same thing happened in Australia I think in 2017
00:13:15.220 when they started shutting down all of their plants and shipping everything to China too I
00:13:18.720 think it was I think it was um oh was it like it was the GM of Australia hold it hold and yeah
00:13:23.880 started shutting that down yeah just totally just ripped up their entire auto industry now
00:13:27.340 they don't even have an auto industry in Australia so everything's in China now well there's that
00:13:32.020 irony of what's going to be happening. Meanwhile, Carney is
00:13:33.980 making a good relationship
00:13:35.940 with Mr. Jinping, and
00:13:37.940 we're bringing in more Chinese
00:13:40.020 made vehicles. Is that where it's
00:13:41.960 going to go? That's not going to make Mr. Trump any
00:13:43.900 happier either. No, and they won't get across the border
00:13:46.120 either. Electronic systems, whatnot, who knows.
00:13:48.240 You want to try and take your Chinese EV 0.96
00:13:49.860 on holiday to the States, good luck. 0.98
00:13:51.780 It's not going to pull my fifth wheel.
00:13:55.760 I don't even know what that means, Corey.
00:13:59.040 I wasn't reading
00:13:59.860 anything weird into that one. What is it
00:14:01.680 uh what is it you drive you go to ford well i got a little hyundai but uh yeah jane drives a big
00:14:06.900 chevy truck i i drive the little compact for when i'm ubering and says right but i mean i do do my
00:14:12.680 you know desert retreat every winter and we pull that big fifth wheel trailer with it and
00:14:16.760 there's no such thing as electric vehicles pulling large trailers it doesn't work yeah it's a c1
00:14:22.740 no i think they tried that with that ford lightning that short-lived uh pickup truck they
00:14:27.100 had that was electric and just with a modest trailer to pull it your range suddenly went
00:14:31.380 down to like 100 kilometers per charge you were worthless but in a rare i won't be getting my
00:14:38.760 chinese truck anytime soon all right well it's getting a little more domestic we see uh uh
00:14:44.040 premier smith spoke up on uh when a full real referendum date might be scheduled if it were
00:14:50.620 to happen it'd be spring 2027 yeah it would be uh she wants it if it does pass this october she
00:14:58.140 once it held before the next election so you know you could go from from a october vote to a march
00:15:04.640 vote a very quick turnaround um i i'm i don't know why she would want to do it that quickly do you
00:15:11.920 well i've been a speculation i always do but they're not often right but once in a while
00:15:17.200 uh i mean again premier smith is a federalist i despite what they always label her as she's
00:15:22.460 never painted herself as being a sport of independence with this referendum coming
00:15:26.680 something that's been gaining steam in the campaign and some of the pivot among some of
00:15:30.740 the campaigners, full disclosure on one of them, uh, is moving more towards that send Ottawa message
00:15:35.580 more towards hitting the soft supporters, the ones who are upset with the Federation say, look,
00:15:39.420 you've got a safe haven for your vote on October 19th. You can place it on option two to give
00:15:44.960 Ottawa the middle finger, shake things up, get some concessions, maybe make some changes so
00:15:49.840 independence doesn't become necessary. But if that window suddenly closes to saying, well,
00:15:54.420 that would mean that the binding referendum would be three to four months
00:15:57.360 later, those soft supporters aren't going to feel as inclined to make that mark
00:16:01.120 on it.
00:16:01.360 They're thinking they're going to buy a couple of years of negotiations with
00:16:04.060 this, not three, four months,
00:16:06.220 and suddenly we're right back into another referendum.
00:16:08.300 I think this will hurt the independence movement potentially with that threat
00:16:13.200 of an actual binding referendum coming back quickly because I don't think
00:16:16.160 they were ready for it.
00:16:17.140 Can they get the judgment out of the courts quick enough that it would even
00:16:20.380 be legal?
00:16:21.440 Probably not.
00:16:22.100 I mean, that's one of the caveats that Premier Smith put in that too, I think, was saying, well, it's assuming the court gives this because we can't do it until that happens and the Indigenous consultation is done, which is a sketch, as Canadian legislation says, anywhere from five minutes to 200 years.
00:16:36.340 Maybe she's done it or would do it so quickly.
00:16:40.920 I mean, you've got to admit the independence groups have had trouble with their leadership.
00:16:45.300 There's no clear leader.
00:16:47.820 And if she put it off for a year or so, that would give the independence people more time to get organized
00:16:54.340 and more time to maybe come up with a firm leader of the cause.
00:16:59.360 but by holding it so quickly
00:17:01.460 after the October referendum
00:17:03.500 she would give very little
00:17:05.560 time for the independence people
00:17:07.480 to get over this. So at Corey's point she really is a federalist
00:17:09.640 Oh there's no doubt she's a federalist
00:17:11.400 Or some people, I'm seeing the left screaming 1.00
00:17:13.200 there it's perfect she's a separatist she's trying 0.97
00:17:15.380 to help this and aid this
00:17:17.460 and everything but from my read on it now
00:17:19.240 I don't see this tactically helping the independence
00:17:21.460 movement at all. She's always said she's a federalist
00:17:23.820 Well and they'd label her
00:17:26.640 I mean she'd get a Canadian flag tattooed on her forehead 1.00
00:17:28.740 They'd still call her a separate, as her opponents will.
00:17:31.700 But from what I read into this, yeah.
00:17:33.980 And as you said, even if the result does come over the 60,
00:17:38.260 I don't know if the independence movement is capable
00:17:41.020 and organized enough to win it. 0.99
00:17:42.300 I mean, she will peel off that band-aid fast and get it done. 0.99
00:17:45.120 Well, I was going to say, do you think she announced it that quickly 0.95
00:17:47.060 because they have no hope of actually winning,
00:17:49.340 so she won't have to worry about the logistics
00:17:50.940 because they will never actually win a yes vote?
00:17:54.280 I wouldn't go as far as never, but as Dave says,
00:17:56.460 This movement needs a couple of years to get it together, I think.
00:17:59.200 Yeah, and a lot of support is not growing in all the polls.
00:18:03.740 It seems to be stuck at 30.
00:18:05.580 That's right around 30.
00:18:06.220 And it's not moving, so.
00:18:08.360 Yeah, there's a sort of weariness of the whole thing.
00:18:11.740 You know, on the cocktail circuit fairly recently,
00:18:13.920 that's all people were talking about.
00:18:16.160 No, they're not.
00:18:18.080 You're on the cocktail circuit?
00:18:21.200 What exactly does that entail, Nigel?
00:18:25.180 How do I get on the cocktail circuit?
00:18:27.600 Listen, we find you at the Owl's Nest.
00:18:29.600 We know where you get your leads from.
00:18:31.700 Yeah, good point.
00:18:32.480 I guess I'm on the cocktail circuit of one. 1.00
00:18:41.140 It's a tough road for the Premier to fend off the people within her own caucus 1.00
00:18:49.300 who badly want to take the province out of Canada.
00:18:54.780 And at the same time present a federalist when half of the people who really like her a lot are actually sympathetic with the separatists.
00:19:04.220 Will this make it go away?
00:19:06.800 Answer?
00:19:07.660 No, it's not going to go away.
00:19:08.680 It's not going to go away.
00:19:09.500 You've got a third of the province ready to go.
00:19:12.500 That's not insignificant.
00:19:14.040 That's a substantial commitment.
00:19:17.560 I mean, yes, 70% wants to stay, fine.
00:19:19.320 But you've got a core and very dedicated people.
00:19:21.860 A lot of the 70% are kind of apathetic.
00:19:25.300 This is a movement she's going to have to cope with,
00:19:28.340 and every Albertan leader is going to...
00:19:30.380 I mean, one of the lessons of history, we all know,
00:19:33.120 is that substantial changes usually are driven by motivated minorities.
00:19:39.440 I mean, whichever revolution you want to look at,
00:19:42.140 it's seldom a case of worms turning against their evil masters.
00:19:46.540 It's usually a small group of people who say,
00:19:48.880 screw this, we're going to change something.
00:19:50.320 I mean, the Russian Revolution is a perfect example of that, but so was the French.
00:19:54.320 So was the American Revolution before it. 0.70
00:19:58.360 So you're right.
00:20:01.100 This is not going away anytime soon, with or without referendums on referendums, followed
00:20:07.180 by referendums on the issue, followed by an election on the issue.
00:20:11.640 Oh, yeah.
00:20:12.120 The thing I'm interested in, everyone's been so much on the independence one.
00:20:15.100 What happens with all the other questions?
00:20:16.600 Nobody's even talked about those.
00:20:17.540 What happens if any of them get a yes vote?
00:20:19.060 They're really falling by the wayside. 1.00
00:20:20.520 Yeah, all the immigration ones? 0.74
00:20:21.460 What happens if everyone votes yes on the immigration ones?
00:20:23.680 Which they're going to. 0.97
00:20:25.020 Probably.
00:20:25.440 What happens then?
00:20:26.080 Nobody's even talking about this.
00:20:27.420 No, you know, if you bring up the chief of stiff,
00:20:31.360 weasel in head, Stephen Carter and his group,
00:20:34.740 he's really taken that on, actually,
00:20:36.980 to try and campaign against the nine.
00:20:38.720 You know, no to the nine. 0.97
00:20:39.820 Yeah, actually, it's fine.
00:20:40.700 And he's right in saying that these are being forgotten
00:20:44.500 while everybody talks about question 10.
00:20:47.840 Okay.
00:20:49.060 But I mean, some of them have some good immigration things the government could do. 0.72
00:20:53.220 Some of them are just pipe dreams no further removed from reality than the independence
00:20:58.280 question would be considered.
00:20:59.520 I mean, they involve opening the constitution. 0.97
00:21:02.980 I have to question the wisdom of that slogan, no to the nine.
00:21:08.860 Stop 10 people on the street and ask them to name.
00:21:11.980 They don't know what the nine is.
00:21:14.040 That's why he's trying to keep it simple or just tell them, just do a big strike through
00:21:17.100 on all of them.
00:21:17.600 Just say no to everything.
00:21:19.060 We had an interesting story today on the Alberta Prosperity Project's plan for when they get elected and where they're going to put the power.
00:21:29.960 And they said they're going to put the president and the vice president in Calgary.
00:21:35.160 I still say Cory's got a chance at that.
00:21:38.340 They're going to put the Senate in Red Deer.
00:21:41.080 They're going to put the Supreme Court of Alberta in Grand Prairie.
00:21:47.000 and they're going to put the Auditor General and the Attorney General in Lloyd Minster,
00:21:51.940 but on the Alberta side, you know, I've got to be on the Alberta side.
00:21:55.000 So the plan is to spread out the different agencies of government
00:22:00.200 and the only other country in the world that's done this type of thing is South Africa.
00:22:06.280 So why you would want to model yourself after South Africa is beyond me.
00:22:10.360 Maybe they know more about the coming immigration portion than they do. 1.00
00:22:14.200 That is a good point.
00:22:15.160 Yes, but you didn't mention Edmonton, was that?
00:22:19.320 Well, they've got...
00:22:20.220 No, I mean, they've got, I assume, members of the legislature and stuff like that.
00:22:28.220 Congress would suit Edmonton.
00:22:30.680 They're using all the American names like Congress.
00:22:33.120 Well, they want a Republican system.
00:22:35.160 I suppose, yeah.
00:22:35.840 So that would be that typical.
00:22:38.060 I mean, it's not the worst document.
00:22:39.560 I read it.
00:22:40.320 It's all right.
00:22:41.120 you know, mostly focused on individual freedoms, a republic basis, controls on the government,
00:22:45.520 things like that. Um, it's a discussion that's coming into the thing too late. And again,
00:22:50.780 as an independent supporter, getting back to where Smith's scheduling this, uh, Keith Wilson
00:22:55.240 was right at the beginning where some people were so upset that we didn't get that up, down,
00:22:58.600 yes, no question while looking at how poorly organized. And I know there's been so great
00:23:01.840 organized people, people working their butts off. And I w I'm still giving this all the way
00:23:05.520 events and good campaigning. I think we could still, it's not impossible to get over that 50%
00:23:10.160 on a on this question on the question but if it was a yes no clarity that question we weren't ready
00:23:16.000 to win that there's no way we we would have been slaughtered in this uh come this october cory i'm
00:23:21.060 going to ask you what what percentage vote would settle this because i don't think 50 i'm saying
00:23:29.640 it's one settles it but from the federal point of view i don't think um you know 50 minus one
00:23:37.680 settles it either no uh that would be a disaster in a binding referendum i said that's more of a
00:23:44.960 recipe for a civil war to be blunt although i've seen no appetite by the way you know anybody
00:23:48.280 watching there's none of that has been showing uh to put it to bed this would have to come in
00:23:53.900 for the independent side i think being under 20 i think we're pretty confident it's going to be
00:23:57.480 higher than that what was that in old's this what was the bilection on old's district well that was
00:24:03.140 uh, you can't measure that because that was Cam Davies. I, it was more a measure of a very
00:24:09.920 shady individual running a very questionable party, uh, in the strongest area of support
00:24:18.460 for independence in Alberta. And it came in at 17%. That's another aspect of illustrating why
00:24:23.120 though the independence movement isn't ready when voices like him can come in and Mr. Parker and
00:24:28.840 some of the others, I mean, I'm pushing, I want to get there, but I'm the first to admit,
00:24:34.000 I don't think we're ready.
00:24:35.580 And this soft question gives a real opportunity.
00:24:39.060 One thing I did agree with on the APP constitution was term limits.
00:24:45.460 You know, only two terms for senators, you know, two terms for congressmen.
00:24:51.240 I don't, does it say anything about elected judges?
00:24:53.660 I didn't get that far.
00:24:54.600 Yes, I believe they had term limits as well, actually.
00:24:57.080 Yes, which would be elected judges would be a great thing
00:24:59.620 when you see some of the crop that's going on in the judicial system.
00:25:03.820 It's a good discussion document.
00:25:05.660 But this is stuff that this movement should have done years ago.
00:25:08.440 I had Preston Maroning on my show earlier today, and that was a good talk.
00:25:11.440 And that was one of these when we brought Quebec, and he pointed out,
00:25:13.540 but Quebec has spent millions.
00:25:14.700 They've been building.
00:25:15.560 They've been making their plans on this for a decade.
00:25:19.120 They've really got a lot put together.
00:25:21.360 The Alberta movement has, I think the support base is there,
00:25:24.700 But we haven't built that foundation yet.
00:25:27.440 And I think it's just my speculation that Smith knows it.
00:25:30.660 The worst thing that could happen to the movement is to fire the gun too early.
00:25:35.640 Absolutely.
00:25:36.680 Why do you think it took them so long to write a constitution?
00:25:39.460 That's what I've been wondering this whole time.
00:25:40.680 Because there's been people involved in Alberta independence for years and years.
00:25:43.920 And they never thought of having like an actual document to begin with.
00:25:46.200 It was like, here, here's what we do.
00:25:47.420 We go from here.
00:25:48.400 Even basis, because I haven't even seen like a real basis for anything until the last few months.
00:25:52.240 Well, I'm not a member of the APP, but I've been following things closely.
00:25:56.720 They had a lot of internal division over that document, because it was completed almost a year ago now.
00:26:01.700 And I think they've been tweaking and adjusting all the way since then until now, but they've had other stuff going on, which I don't know the full basis of.
00:26:09.580 Wouldn't be the first time that the Constitutional Convention has come several years after the revolution.
00:26:14.380 Yeah, it's true. It's good to start the discussion better late than never.
00:26:16.820 I'm glad they put it out. Bruce Party put out a proposed constitution a little while back.
00:26:22.020 very scaled down, very libertarian leaning.
00:26:24.800 And I believe Keith Wilson's group is,
00:26:27.140 they keep talking about it.
00:26:28.000 They're going to have something coming out
00:26:29.260 soon with these white papers.
00:26:31.260 Yeah, I've heard about that.
00:26:31.880 But we're getting really late in the game
00:26:33.140 for these discussions there.
00:26:34.300 You know, we're getting to the vote point
00:26:35.680 and people are going to read constitutions.
00:26:38.440 No, and again, it's a communication problem
00:26:40.320 with if you're a voter, you're undecided.
00:26:42.060 Okay, I mean, I got one, two, three
00:26:43.600 separate constitutions.
00:26:44.680 What am I supposed to believe?
00:26:45.960 Well, that's where, yeah, you got to have
00:26:47.100 some debates and you can't have a solid one out.
00:26:48.800 I mean, that's the difficulty because it
00:26:50.240 goes to a constitutional convention, but
00:26:51.780 You've got to start that discourse somewhere.
00:26:54.360 Well, to that point, let's say that the separatist vote is not persuasive in the October referendum.
00:27:06.280 Would that be, would that actually trigger the groups who are interested in Alberta independence saying, okay, we need to get together and do some work and then going off and doing it?
00:27:17.600 Or do you see the same, you know, herd of cats?
00:27:21.320 There's always going to be some of them.
00:27:23.800 Or the cats.
00:27:24.700 That's just the nature of that movement.
00:27:25.860 Conservatives in general.
00:27:27.100 I've got two contingencies in my head.
00:27:29.180 You know, one is the champagne quirks and the little hat.
00:27:31.360 And, you know, my diet Pepsi that I'll drink as we got over 50% because we managed to get people to choose that send Ottawa message messaging and the 30% dedicated independent supporters went.
00:27:42.460 And then we carry on the process.
00:27:44.800 Or it comes in, say, at 35, 40%, which isn't insignificant.
00:27:48.540 Then we examine ourselves and say, well, why didn't we get over the line?
00:27:53.660 What were we lacking?
00:27:56.720 Personally, I think it's things like an Alberta pension plan.
00:27:59.660 It's, you know, a lot of these connections we have that Quebec already severed.
00:28:02.440 Let's look at Quebec.
00:28:03.860 They're collecting their own taxes.
00:28:05.580 They're running their own pension plan.
00:28:07.900 Let's lobby on getting rid of those question marks and then start re-evaluating.
00:28:11.620 You may disagree, but I don't think the APP, the Alberta pension plan is a winner for you.
00:28:15.640 People are frightened to death of losing their sea people.
00:28:18.560 I know.
00:28:19.440 And that's why that task has to be done because that's killing the independence movement right now too.
00:28:23.760 It's the number one thing when I go to public speaking events and we go to the Q&A and we get a senior coming up saying, I'm going to lose my pension because Jason Kenney sent so.
00:28:32.440 It's bull. 1.00
00:28:33.400 It's pure crap. 1.00
00:28:35.740 And it's winning. 1.00
00:28:37.900 It's working.
00:28:38.960 Thus, we have to find a way to counter it because we will lose on that one over and over until we get our own plan.
00:28:43.840 Yeah. Well, people need to understand you can be in Costa Rica or Afghanistan and draw your Canada pension plan.
00:28:49.500 We try to make that case, but as long as you got a cassock up there, they're going to take away your passport. 0.69
00:28:53.740 They're going to take away your pension plan. 0.69
00:28:54.920 You know, that's the narrative and we haven't countered it effectively.
00:28:59.760 As you said, it's a losing one right now.
00:29:01.920 So these are the things I think the movement would have to move on to.
00:29:05.340 You know, I mean, if you've lost a referendum of 35% to go the day after and say, well, let's push for another referendum right away.
00:29:11.800 I mean, people are like, well, why?
00:29:13.160 I mean, we don't need to repeat that.
00:29:14.040 You've got to change the circumstance.
00:29:15.920 Sorry.
00:29:16.560 What if it comes in, you know, we've talked about the polls being at 30%.
00:29:20.960 What if it comes in at 26?
00:29:22.880 What if your final vote is 26%?
00:29:25.400 You know, you've talked about what you're going to do at 35 and 50.
00:29:28.040 What do you do at 25?
00:29:29.800 Well, I mean, it still doesn't give up, but it makes me realize I want a decade to work on it.
00:29:34.080 You know, it's not going to be something happening fast.
00:29:36.200 So again, looking at that long game, maintaining the foundation, but realizing this just isn't happening.
00:29:40.800 The appetite isn't there right now for it, and we have to figure out if we really want it to happen, how to build that appetite.
00:29:46.980 But what if it's like Scotland at 44?
00:29:50.260 Well, you know, if it's like Scotland at 44 and you are Mark Carney and you get this memo from the chief of staff saying Albertans just voted 44% in favor of independence, that's actually not a good start to the day.
00:30:05.840 No.
00:30:06.440 That would be – it's not conclusive.
00:30:09.140 You have a problem.
00:30:10.800 Well, and it's voting to continue the process.
00:30:12.720 There's part of where it's not conclusive too, but that's one of, I think, the selling
00:30:15.340 points for those of us who are hardcore, but you can bring a larger group in and theoretically
00:30:20.660 say you got 55%, pretty weak, but now you're moving towards another referendum.
00:30:24.980 If that referendum was a year and a half way, you might be able to move that.
00:30:27.820 But realistically, 20% of that 55% was probably people who wanted to send a message and they're
00:30:32.400 not going to vote in spring to go.
00:30:35.520 They're not there yet.
00:30:36.520 And there's where I think tactically, and I don't like the tactic because I think it might be effective, it undercuts the strength this fall for October.
00:30:46.140 So it's not Smith-Supporting.
00:30:48.260 Another brilliant political move by Smith?
00:30:51.720 If that was the intent, yes.
00:30:54.020 I don't have to like him.
00:30:57.900 Some of the listeners, Corey, what do you do?
00:31:00.000 Well, no, I mean, just credit we're doing.
00:31:01.260 And that means that we've got to accept where it may have put us at a disadvantage and figure out then how, as campaigners, we can counter that.
00:31:08.680 Because it changes the timelines in our messaging.
00:31:12.760 We'll see.
00:31:13.800 We're in for an interesting year, no matter how it goes.
00:31:17.000 All right, well, let's talk about something else.
00:31:18.800 I see you put in a column from one of the more vocal arseholes on the Western Standard set there.
00:31:25.780 Morgan talking about anti-automobile activists disguising themselves as safety activists.
00:31:31.260 Well, you know, there's a lot of that sort of activity where people come at their issue indirectly.
00:31:36.980 I'm going to be talking to somebody later this afternoon who is talking about activists who don't like the LNG industry trying to frighten people on the routes that are likely to be used, saying, oh, it's going to poison you.
00:31:55.520 It's going to kill the salmon.
00:31:59.360 And it's all hokum.
00:32:00.580 They don't actually come right out and say, we want to stop the LNG development.
00:32:07.580 They just say the LNG development is likely to hurt you.
00:32:11.460 Well, now you come to your theory that you have activists, really, they're anti-car, but they go around with a different message.
00:32:24.040 And they're environmentalists.
00:32:25.620 They're climate change nuts.
00:32:27.180 and
00:32:29.240 you know it's a free world
00:32:31.280 you're allowed to
00:32:32.780 talk rubbish if you think it's going to 0.97
00:32:35.440 help you but 0.99
00:32:36.160 I get so tired of it
00:32:39.380 and I'm so tired of this anti-car
00:32:41.600 thing. The car is the
00:32:43.240 ultimate symbol
00:32:45.620 of freedom. You know and the
00:32:47.480 stupid thing some of the mainstream media 1.00
00:32:49.700 weirdly did stories 1.00
00:32:51.520 on was they want a coroner's
00:32:53.680 inquest into
00:32:55.000 are bigger trucks and cars
00:32:57.680 killing people? 1.00
00:32:59.060 Well, no shit, Sherlock. 1.00
00:33:00.780 You get hit by a Chevy 1.00
00:33:02.740 pickup truck,
00:33:05.180 it's going to hurt more than a lot.
00:33:08.360 Let's say a train will hurt you
00:33:09.820 more than a bicycle. 1.00
00:33:12.060 So, I mean, that's a stupid thing 1.00
00:33:13.700 to start your argument off with. 0.99
00:33:15.200 But, you know, we drive downtown
00:33:16.980 every day, well, at least Dave and I do,
00:33:19.960 and I cannot believe 1.00
00:33:21.460 how ludicrous pedestrians act. 0.54
00:33:24.080 You know, they're starting into the intersections just as the green light the opposite way is going. 0.51
00:33:29.680 And I have, you know, being me, I roll my window down and scream at them.
00:33:34.560 And then you've got scooters zipping by you and electric bikes going this way and that way.
00:33:40.480 It's no wonder pedestrians are getting killed by a record amount.
00:33:43.460 No, they don't even look either way when they cross the street.
00:33:45.180 And most of it is their fault because they either don't know the traffic rules, they don't think it applies to them.
00:33:52.140 but the amount of jaywalking is just incredible which i do believe is illegal it is illegal and
00:33:58.760 they won't crack down on that another part that is uh they don't like talking about but we see
00:34:03.640 that as downtown drivers how often are they addicts just wandering into the middle of street
00:34:08.480 the collisions that have been going up i mean that we see the areas when you hear about it it's over
00:34:13.060 by the elbow river casino and so on nine times out of ten because they just i mean it's sad these
00:34:18.180 are people who have lost all hope in life.
00:34:20.500 That's why they don't care.
00:34:21.520 They're going to walk right into the middle of traffic.
00:34:23.480 But that's exactly what they do.
00:34:25.140 Yeah, I mean, you hear about pedestrians getting killed at 2 a.m. in the morning.
00:34:28.640 Well, you know what?
00:34:29.700 It's likely some sort of intoxicant involved with the pedestrian.
00:34:34.100 Oh, hit by trains.
00:34:34.940 You see them stay around the train tracks all the time downtown, so I'm not surprised.
00:34:38.900 Yeah, and I mean, but it's back to what I wrote about and what Nigel was talking about.
00:34:42.320 The underlying route, though, when I lived in Cowdery and we left 14 years ago,
00:34:47.240 and the battle was big then because they were just bringing in the painted lines of bike lanes
00:34:51.220 because they were just taking out parking in areas and certain roads 10th street and they
00:34:54.860 hadn't started these god-awful tracks yet and they were saying then this is going to bring people
00:35:00.240 commuting in on bicycles this will raise it up there's a minority of people who ride them but
00:35:05.140 if they would get those lanes loads of calgarians will pack up and start looking the stats are in
00:35:09.860 after 14 years of this and bike tracks and things everywhere it's still under two percent it always
00:35:14.880 was under two percent the spandex aficionados nutcases who are going to ride all weather and
00:35:20.420 in the the their bike to work will always be but they're not growing i was going to say cory i mean
00:35:27.700 i see like in the summer months i bet you the most cyclists i've seen at one time down around here
00:35:33.220 is four i think i counted one day four that's it and i think most of those are just carriers like
00:35:37.820 the carrier guys going around between offices that was it yeah and the city knows these stats
00:35:41.440 So why are they refusing to get rid of these lanes?
00:35:43.920 And that's when it gets back to because the intent isn't to facilitate bicycles.
00:35:46.860 It's to hinder cars.
00:35:48.440 That's the underlying thing.
00:35:50.160 Yeah.
00:35:50.360 Well, we finally got some common sense coming into the conversation.
00:35:54.060 The Ontario court last week said, you know, you don't have a constitutional right to bike lanes.
00:36:01.540 The UCP government has obviously clicked that, hey, this is a vote winner.
00:36:06.000 So their minister, Devin Dreeshan, is talking about removing bike lanes.
00:36:10.760 uh yeah get get going rip them up yeah rip them off and while they're ripping those up maybe they 0.94
00:36:15.500 could also rip out those stupid little uh i don't know what they're for but you've got two lanes 0.99
00:36:21.540 and suddenly the curb lane is interrupted by something that just sticks out like that yeah 0.99
00:36:26.300 it's scooter park scooter park and i wrote about that before too because it's the same intent it's 0.99
00:36:32.780 to hinder cars it's just to get in the way we weren't running out of room to stick those stupid 1.00
00:36:37.360 scooters. You can stick those little parking 1.00
00:36:39.320 things anywhere you please. They stuck them up at the end
00:36:41.340 of intersections. That way vehicles can't turn right
00:36:43.300 on a red and can't get around
00:36:45.200 other vehicles. The intent
00:36:47.140 is to hinder traffic.
00:36:49.220 Let's just call it what it is from these city
00:36:51.340 planners. So has
00:36:53.260 any alderman ever run on
00:36:55.120 an explicit platform of
00:36:56.900 elect me and I will do everything
00:36:59.260 I can to hinder car traffic in
00:37:01.140 Calgary? They certainly won't do that.
00:37:03.420 And it's not that the council is so
00:37:05.240 much of the problem. It's in administration.
00:37:06.840 Well, the Congress says, aren't they? 0.88
00:37:08.380 Because they don't bloody well. 0.99
00:37:09.700 They won't fire the middle. 1.00
00:37:10.580 They won't deal with it.
00:37:12.020 I remember these debates happening with Sean Chu when he was in the city hall.
00:37:17.500 And he called out the senior bike commissioner, this woman, and basically called her a liar in there because she was lying about the stats.
00:37:24.700 And she was. 0.94
00:37:25.240 She was lying through her teeth.
00:37:26.560 And then she went postal on him.
00:37:29.020 I mean, that was one of the bigger city hall battles going on down there.
00:37:32.060 How dare you question a senior city official?
00:37:34.860 So, well, is that your bloody job? 0.86
00:37:37.900 But that's the atmosphere and attitude down there, 0.98
00:37:40.760 that you don't question these planners, and they're extremists.
00:37:44.140 Yep.
00:37:45.240 Well, I come back to my earlier observation.
00:37:48.680 I would rather have a car than a vote.
00:37:51.420 You know, if we're talking about liberty and freedom,
00:37:54.680 I want the ability, ultimately it's defined for me as the ability to walk out of my house,
00:37:59.600 get into my car, and go anywhere I want without asking anybody or having to get permission.
00:38:04.860 Cars are empowerment.
00:38:06.520 Oh yeah.
00:38:07.420 I've written on that.
00:38:08.740 One thing that really stuck in my head when I was working in Pennsylvania, it was a little
00:38:12.080 steel town down in this awful canyon with a railway through it.
00:38:15.720 It was a pure company town, about a hundred and some years old, but it was just striking
00:38:19.640 in, it was the big steel mill, the downtown commercial buildings in city hall and community
00:38:27.320 center, all again, commercially built by the one mill.
00:38:30.440 But when you lived down there a hundred and some years ago, that mill owned you.
00:38:34.740 All the houses were cookie cutter.
00:38:35.880 They owned those.
00:38:37.120 You couldn't work anywhere else because the mill owned everything.
00:38:40.140 You were close to being enslaved.
00:38:41.760 That's why unions came about and things later.
00:38:44.280 But one of the other things that broke that stranglehold were cars.
00:38:46.800 Once you had an individual auto, you could drive 30 minutes to Pittsburgh and find another job.
00:38:51.900 You could pack up your family and go somewhere.
00:38:54.460 When you become dependent on the state for your transportation, I don't see that as being a good end.
00:38:59.560 I don't know as well in this city why they're trying to be anti-car.
00:39:02.460 When Calgary is huge, it's basically built for automobiles because it's bigger, I think, area-wise than New York City.
00:39:07.220 So it's like, why are you trying to get rid of cars?
00:39:08.880 And something that annoys me about cyclists too is if you have to pay for a license and insurance for your vehicle,
00:39:13.800 why the hell don't we get them to pay for a license and insurance for their bicycle?
00:39:16.860 Because if you have a driver's license and you want to get a motorbike, you still have to go take a test,
00:39:20.820 get an updated license for the motorbike, and guess what?
00:39:22.640 Pay for insurance for that motorbike.
00:39:24.120 Why don't we do that for the bicycles and the cyclists?
00:39:26.280 I've never understood that.
00:39:27.160 If the city wants to make more money, there's one way to do it.
00:39:29.540 A lot of people campaign on it.
00:39:30.740 LaDresian smells that, and that's why he's going in.
00:39:32.820 I mean, I felt it's kind of an intrusion.
00:39:34.480 I'd rather the city voters dealt with it because it should be a municipal issue.
00:39:38.340 But he's jumping in because he knows it's a winter because people are sick of that.
00:39:41.160 And he knows the city's not going to do anything about it.
00:39:43.200 No, and there's nothing more frustrating.
00:39:45.160 I do that walk every day too.
00:39:46.420 There's a bike lane on 8th Avenue on each side of the road, 0.67
00:39:49.800 and half the time I dodge a cyclist because he's riding on the freaking sidewalk anyhow.
00:39:54.220 They're using the things, but that gets back to the point.
00:39:56.440 It's not about the cyclists.
00:39:58.720 It never has been.
00:39:59.420 And there's nothing more that infuriates me, and I'm sure you too, Corey, than on a snowy day driving down into downtown Calgary after battling the traffic for 90 minutes.
00:40:08.820 And you look around and all the snow, all the bike lanes have been plowed and there's not a plow on the street anywhere.
00:40:16.440 No, they're priority one.
00:40:17.700 They're same as any other.
00:40:18.940 They get the same priority as if it was a road in front of a fire hall.
00:40:24.200 Mind-boggling.
00:40:24.920 Hopefully we get some change.
00:40:26.840 Well, let's just use a few minutes on our parting shots.
00:40:29.020 There's four of us here to rant and rave on a few things.
00:40:31.360 I'll start with you, Nigel.
00:40:32.660 I didn't want to encroach him.
00:40:33.880 Well, you know, I just love the fact that we've given so much attention to Mr. Trudeau's security details and his follies.
00:40:43.700 and when when mr harper retired to calgary he had one security person he had a full-time
00:40:57.760 one but stephen harper was a guy who could walk anywhere in calgary or edmonton anywhere in
00:41:05.840 alberta frankly and either people would recognize that he was a former prime minister and you know
00:41:10.740 be respectful, or they would be
00:41:12.720 so enthusiastic that
00:41:14.840 it would be awkward for him, because
00:41:16.720 you just can't...
00:41:18.320 So all it took was one.
00:41:20.860 How many is true to that? Four.
00:41:23.220 Yeah? And is that standard,
00:41:24.800 or did it get more when he goes somewhere exciting?
00:41:26.760 And don't forget, it's not... It's him
00:41:28.580 traveling the world with his girl pal. 0.86
00:41:30.480 Right? Katy Perry. So, when they're
00:41:32.720 sipping wine in the south of France,
00:41:34.860 there's four RCMP bodyguards
00:41:36.820 with them, paid by us.
00:41:39.020 Yeah.
00:41:39.340 Yeah, and, you know, I mean, she's a kazillionaire. 1.00
00:41:42.380 Why does she throw in some money to pay for?
00:41:44.260 And, of course, the RCMP won't discuss the cost, but it'll be in the millions.
00:41:49.580 And, sorry, the difference also is people hate Trudeau, you know.
00:41:54.880 So, like Stephen Harper, I kind of think he does need protection.
00:41:59.880 I think you may be right. 0.99
00:42:00.880 Because there's always some lunatic that could go up and just punch him in the face. 0.99
00:42:04.840 Four is enough. 0.71
00:42:05.480 I don't deny, I mean, the need for a prime minister to have protection, even true.
00:42:10.200 Even though I got to admit it, if somebody just came and flicked his ear or something, nothing major, I would have to laugh at the video.
00:42:15.240 But a prime minister should be protected.
00:42:17.540 Fair enough.
00:42:18.060 Even him.
00:42:19.440 But one should be enough.
00:42:20.700 You want above and beyond, especially if you're globetrotting.
00:42:23.040 Pay for it yourself.
00:42:23.900 He's a trust fund baby anyway.
00:42:25.540 Yeah, it's worth a couple hundred million.
00:42:26.840 Yeah.
00:42:27.420 If one isn't enough, well, you know what?
00:42:28.860 You don't take the extended vacations. 0.97
00:42:30.220 You live like normal Canadians do.
00:42:31.820 You can only do what you afford. 0.63
00:42:33.220 Anyway, it's the ultimate measure of the man
00:42:37.080 That he needs more security than his predecessor
00:42:39.180 Imagine that
00:42:40.620 We get to pay for it
00:42:42.220 What do you got, Dave?
00:42:43.060 I want to talk about Canadian golden boy
00:42:46.100 Ryan Reynolds, star of Deadpool
00:42:48.860 And he started this soccer club
00:42:53.380 He didn't start it
00:42:54.020 He bought into this soccer club in Wrexham in Wales
00:42:56.720 Turned it into a global sensation
00:42:58.620 With his show, Welcome to Wrexham
00:43:01.800 made a whole pile of money and was very successful with his soccer.
00:43:09.440 Now, Royal Bank of Canada has invested in Wrexham,
00:43:14.540 so Mr. Reynolds will have got a whole bunch more money in his bank account,
00:43:18.800 so they can have a Royal Bank of Canada insignia on the front of the Wrexham cert.
00:43:24.760 Now, okay, Mr. Reynolds, good for you,
00:43:27.840 But how about, you know, maybe getting some money invested into Canadian soccer now?
00:43:33.240 You know, you've made a lot of money.
00:43:35.900 And now, you know, you're always bringing up how proud you are to be a Canadian.
00:43:39.340 And now it's time to pay back some good luck.
00:43:43.060 And what about RBC?
00:43:44.240 Why aren't they investing in soccer or in Canadian stuff?
00:43:48.200 And they do a lot of golfers in the States.
00:43:50.240 But RBC does business in the States.
00:43:52.780 I don't think they do business in rural Wales.
00:43:55.660 Not much.
00:43:56.380 You could have the star power to try and escalate a Canadian team.
00:43:59.460 Reynolds would do it.
00:44:00.060 I mean, he's a personable guy.
00:44:01.120 Oh, love him.
00:44:01.760 Just love him.
00:44:03.040 You know, and it's just a very slight criticism, but he should do more for Canadians.
00:44:07.280 So hopefully he catches your article.
00:44:09.320 There you go.
00:44:10.400 Shirts on the top of his list.
00:44:12.600 You never know.
00:44:14.380 Have a day.
00:44:15.140 Well, I was looking.
00:44:16.320 There's this article I saw in McLean's that saw an interesting stat.
00:44:18.880 Apparently gun license applicants in the greater Toronto area have doubled in the last decade,
00:44:22.900 and women are apparently the fastest growing demographic.
00:44:25.080 So I wonder if that has something to do with the mass increase in crime, because the main reason women are getting into firearms is because of self-defense.
00:44:31.720 So I was just thinking maybe the next time they go and vote in a federal election, maybe look at the liberals and their criminal policies and bail policies.
00:44:37.360 Just a thought.
00:44:38.240 It'd be refreshing.
00:44:39.160 You know, justice just never seems to make it makes the news, but it never makes the elections.
00:44:43.260 It really doesn't.
00:44:44.440 Like that guy in Ontario today.
00:44:47.640 Three times he's been released on bail.
00:44:49.860 Three times he's committed more sex offenses against children.
00:44:52.660 Well, what do you have to do to be locked up in this country?
00:44:54.800 more while you commit mischief.
00:44:57.180 Kills you get 40 days.
00:44:58.200 Yeah, we've got our priorities off.
00:45:02.980 Well, I guess, you know, it's our job
00:45:03.960 to just keep hammering the justice thing
00:45:05.260 because your average person on the street
00:45:06.820 is sick of this.
00:45:08.020 As you said, if they're buying firearms,
00:45:09.520 they're in concern.
00:45:10.360 I realize the system doesn't work.
00:45:11.480 Why can our politicians make
00:45:13.020 hay of justice issues?
00:45:14.200 They've never, and I've seen them try.
00:45:16.760 They just don't seem to grasp the imagination
00:45:18.260 when the election comes.
00:45:19.220 I don't get it.
00:45:19.860 And when they do do something right,
00:45:21.820 like mandatory minimums,
00:45:23.400 You've got the abacus judges, you know, saying they're unconstitutional.
00:45:28.320 That's right.
00:45:29.860 There was a gun trafficker, a major gun trafficker today in Windsor, I believe,
00:45:34.620 got house arrest because the maximum or minimum wasn't available to the judge.
00:45:41.740 So house arrest for dozens of guns.
00:45:44.680 Eh, well, we got her all wrong in many ways.
00:45:47.700 Well, Dave, Dave, Nigel, we've run the clock out.
00:45:51.440 I didn't really have much to go on with a parting shot anyway.
00:45:54.200 So thanks for the company during the pipeline this week
00:45:57.240 and another Derek Free episode.
00:45:59.080 Yeah, Derek Free again next week.
00:46:00.780 Okay, well, I guess.
00:46:01.820 Tune in next week, guys, for another Derek Absinthe Pipeline
00:46:05.300 and we'll break down a few more issues,
00:46:07.120 have a few more parting shots to throw out there
00:46:10.640 and, you know, solve some of the world's problems.
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