2 RAGE QUITS？! Andrew Wilson! MANSPLAINING？! Social Justice Girl HEATED DEBATE! ｜ Dating Talk #173
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7 hours and 43 minutes
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183.7129
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470
Summary
In this episode of Whatever Dating Talk, we introduce our first guest, Izzy Cozier, a 22-year-old college student and content creator, to the world. We talk about her college life, what she's studying, and what she wants to do with her life after college.
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In any case, disclaimer, the views expressed by the guests do not necessarily reflect the
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With that said, and without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves,
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so please tell us your name, age, location, and occupation.
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I am from Los Angeles, originally Orange County, and I am currently a student and as well a content
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I'm 21 years old, and I currently live in Santa Barbara County.
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I'm from Marin County, California, actually, and I moved here three years ago to pursue
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a degree at Santa Barbara City College, currently studying real estate, and I also sell wine.
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Coco here was on our first ever whatever episode.
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I'm pretty sure you were on the first and then the second.
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Episode one, episode two, and that was July 1st of 2022, so it's almost...
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When you say you sell wine, what does that entail?
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So I've actually just gotten into a gig that my dad's been doing for the past 15 years.
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So you're not like making your own wine and selling it.
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I guess I'm not as respectable as someone who makes their own wine, but I'm in sales
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We should start a bidding war on the live stream for a one-of-one wine bottle from Izzy
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I don't really think they make wine that way anymore.
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Imagine if OF girls started selling wine, but it was...
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Ryan, you're about to start a brand new genre on OnlyFans.
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I'm a student at the University of Hawaii in Hilo.
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Oh, are you planning to take online classes, or...?
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Like, you're taking a semester quarter off, or...?
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Yeah, I'll probably just do online in the fall.
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I was actually born and raised here in Santa Barbara.
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I got a great opportunity to study economics at UCSB.
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So, I do that, and also pursuing a minor in poverty, inequality, and social justice there.
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I swear it's a minor, y'all, so you can look it up.
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What, like, what are some of the classes that one might take for that?
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Capitalism, or, yeah, history of U.S. capitalism.
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I took another one in geography, where basically...
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What are some of the other classes you've taken in that for the minor?
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I feel like I've had to have taken, like, two or three more that I'm just blanking on.
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I'm trying to see if they, like, show you potential classes for that.
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Any gender-related stuff, or so far, you said capitalism, there's a class on...
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Yeah, so far, no gender-related issues, or classes that I've partaken in.
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A lot of my classes have mainly just focused on economics.
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I took history of economics during ancient periods, but then also took one looking at
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more recent periods, such as during colonization as well.
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And what are your plans for after you graduate?
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Are you going to go for your master's, or start working?
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Um, I was actually on, I was on track to continue on to grad school.
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Was very much focused on, yeah, sending out those letters.
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Unfortunately, I had an incident that sent me back a little bit after I lost a friend.
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It just made me rethink the whole, do I really want to dedicate the next five years of my life
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Because I was more on the grad school track, not the, if I was going to do it, I was going
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And the incident, it was the loss of your friend?
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And, uh, do you have a sense of kind of what you want to do when it comes to work?
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Um, I'm actually enrolled in two or an accounting class this, um, summer.
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So, uh, part of the freelance work that I also do is with my friends who started up their
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own business in town, um, and they needed a bookkeeper.
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So I've been doing some of the bookkeeping for them.
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There's an economics and accounting route that you can go through at UCSB.
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I always was just like, no, it's not really for me, but I do like my numbers.
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So you like your, your numbers and you like your money.
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I feel like our account accountants are, there's definitely a lot of people get like job placements
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Uh, and I saw on your Instagram, you, are you working for like a Santa Barbara local women
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Um, I actually, that's a club that I co-founded actually at UCSB, um, during that.
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So I actually was at CC first, um, and then I transferred over to UCSB.
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I, we, me and a couple of our friends looked into other clubs, but kind of felt like we're
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They do have a TMP program, um, technology management program.
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Um, so I feel like because though it wasn't a major, no one ever thought to do it.
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Women in business is a club like on almost every single campus, um, here in California.
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So yeah, we started with, I think like 30 dues paying members and it's grown to like, I think
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The women in business, just Santa Barbara women in business.
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So it's, yeah, a club that, which was like monthly, weekly, at least when school's in
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Um, for as far as activities for the girlies, we do them probably at least twice a week.
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And this would go anywhere from like networking workshops to just like a little yoga de-stress
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What's the, I guess, what's the mission statement of the club?
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Um, we really try to prepare girls for, or a lot of it was like resume workshops as well.
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Um, bringing in other people to talk about their experiences too in different fields.
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So just giving our girls a mix of what's out there after college.
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Um, well, so we have kind of been going in order around the table, getting everybody.
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No, no, I know, but she spoke for a long time and then I thought.
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Uh, I'm a partner ownership in a med spy in Texas.
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I was an actress in my country for 15 years and a writer.
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Uh, I'm also a certified meditation instructor.
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I just wrote my own book that come in, uh, in the next two months.
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This is my next career that I really, really love.
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Uh, you know how people like to do Botox, fillers, so I'm a certified injector.
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I specialize with, like, Russian technique, European technique.
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I mean, I stopped, you know, last year because everybody around me were too injected and I
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decided I don't want to look like a pattern, so I stopped Botoxing.
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I'm older than any, than everybody here, probably.
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Well, Andrew's a vampire, so he's actually 173, so I'm not sure if.
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By the way, I mean, if you, I just, just, it is, it is a theme with the audience.
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Like the, the entire audience will absolutely turn against you if you refuse the age question.
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Because everybody around me in my age are so old mentally and physically.
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No, but you said everybody around you is old mentally.
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They're like old with everything, you know, the way, sorry.
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They're old with everything, with how they think and how they eat and how they speak.
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And you don't have to be on a pattern of your age.
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So just, so just a bunch of fuddy duddies, right?
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They're just kind of a bunch of fuddy duddies, you know?
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It's just because I work in the lane of beauty.
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And since I wrote a book regarding what I was just talking about, I had an issue with
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my look for many years because I was injured very, very bad on my left hand.
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I injured on my face from a terror attack in Israel.
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So I had to fix it for years in order to look, you know?
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Ethnicity, is it Palestinian or actually Israeli or...
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My grandfather from my dad's side was actually Muslim and black.
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And my grandmother is Russian and my mother is Jewish.
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If your mother is Jewish, so you have to be Jewish, yeah.
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But I speak Arabic and I speak Hebrew and I understand both sides.
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So when it comes to the age, though, you said you don't like to reveal it because the
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It takes me like a few minutes like, you know, swallow the frog.
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So it is like, it is better just so the audience doesn't turn against you just to, because
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People reveal against me anyway because I'm from Israel, so I'm used to it.
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In like northern Seattle, it's just an absolute shit show.
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It used to be fun to go there when I was a teenager, but I don't...
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It was always going to just because Seattle is an extremely casual city and they celebrate grunge.
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So, it kind of didn't have any hope, to be honest.
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So, you know, it invites a lot of opportunities for people to just behave badly and get away with crime.
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You know, when I pass first thousand, I stop counting.
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So, without further ado, Andrew Wilson, my Caucasian.
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It's the fastest growing debate channel on the internet, at least to my knowledge.
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I'm a political satirist, political analyst, and I also like to do a little bit of debating
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So, fortunate enough that Brian invited me on the podcast.
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I appreciate all of you fine gals coming out tonight.
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So, we're going to go around the table once more.
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What is everybody's current relationship status?
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So, single, talking stage, situationship, friends with benefits, relationship, married,
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If you're single, how long have you been single?
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And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in?
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And as well, my longest relationship is roughly three and a half years.
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Wait, were you, when was, you were on the show a couple months ago, right?
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Just simply, like, pads were not kind of aligning.
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And as well, I just planned to kind of move elsewhere as well.
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Growing up in California, spending all 22 years here, I think it's best that I try something else.
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Well, let's definitely try to get you back on at least once more before you leave.
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That's from, like, Sunny Isles area as opposed to Miami Central.
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Is, what, where, which city is more degenerate?
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Would you object to your man disallowing you going to Miami?
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I think that there's some reason as to why he maybe wouldn't let me go to Miami, but I
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I have family in Florida, so he's not allowed there.
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Have you ever been in a relationship and been like, I'm going to Miami and he's...
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I've gone to Miami in a relationship, but it's mainly for work and it's also...
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I'm single, not seeing anybody, and I was in the longest relationship.
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Was I in it the last time that I was on the show?
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Yeah, I know, but I've been single for over like two years now.
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Because the last time you were on was two years.
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Have you been in a relationship in between your last appearance?
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I actually don't count that relationship anymore just because I was so young.
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When people ask me about it, I really don't talk about it anymore.
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And so you've been single for two years, but living in, you know, Santa Barbara?
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You know, you were previously in this Ivy area, right?
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No, maybe no boyfriend, girlfriend, but anything shorter term?
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So in the past two years, what's the longest period of time that you've dated somebody?
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Or just as long as it takes me to see them again.
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Are you always the one who's like, I don't want to pursue this further than a fortnight?
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And I guess like, I feel like I'm looking for something different than like a lot of people
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I guess I'm looking for someone that I could genuinely like see myself with and just it
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makes it easy to feel at one, to feel at peace, to feel, you know, to like what I see.
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And I don't think anyone's really making it easy enough.
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I feel like it's either too easy, like love bombing all the time, or it's just there's
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nothing there and they give you like zero energy and it's hard to find an in-between.
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And I'm a big believer on like loyalty over love at this point.
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And if I feel like you have other options and stuff, which just seems like a lot of
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people do when you're meeting people in the areas that I seem to be meeting people at,
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like that just seems like more of the culture of people going out.
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We'll come back to some of that stuff a little bit later.
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Our anniversary is on 7-Eleven, so we're going to get free slushies.
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And I walk up and I'm like, I like your septum.
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And then we went outside and we started talking.
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So what's his like, uh, is he kind of like a punk type guy or what's his look?
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He does not have gauges, but his ears are pierced.
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Uh, well, he's half white, half Indonesian and Japanese.
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Had like a little situationship with like a coworker a little over a year ago, but it
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had to be brief because they were like transferring somewhere else.
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Um, after transferring over, I was very much in the mindset of just channel all your energy
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and focus into school and being successful and it worked out quite well for me.
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Um, so yeah, I feel like I went like 10 months.
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And then, yeah, maybe had like a little fling in Hawaii two weeks ago.
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But besides that, yeah, I was in Hawaii for three weeks, which on the, in Honolulu.
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So it was like, uh, when you say fling, like you guys just met up once or you guys, while
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Uh, your, and longest relationship you've ever been in?
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Honestly, I feel like would have gone way longer, but, um, we actually met while he was an exchange
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We probably dated for a little over a year, long distance.
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I would fly out, stay during like winters and summers.
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Um, and then the distance just, yeah, got a little too hard.
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So this two year one, is that the one that ended three years ago about 2021?
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There's, and there's another one in, um, after that, that lasted a couple months.
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That's an instant L, instant L for the, for the girl or for the, no, it's like, as long
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as they're not doing it, like while they're in my company, but if I'm going to go over
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and you're just going to be like, Oh my gosh, look, look, look at the upgrade I just got.
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He got a lot better, but like after, yeah, we broke up.
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So I know we should, they should just always talk about you.
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Cause there's nothing else they're interested in.
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I feel like, or I have a friend who's like, Oh yeah, he games.
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But like, as soon as I get home, you know, he turns it off.
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He knows it's like us time, you know, he'll, yeah.
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So there's, there's that, which is like, yeah, being respectful of having someone else in
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your presence and me coming over, wanting to hang out, do something.
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Actually this, I think this was like the, the like, he had never, I remember we were on the
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phone one time and he had never gone paddle boarding.
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And I was like, what, you've never been paddle boarding?
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Like we should go, like, you know, I have access to the whole branch beach.
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And he's like, why do you always want to do something outside?
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And he's like, it's like me asking you to come over and watch me play video games for
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It sounds like you wanted him to be interested in things that you were interested in, but
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you weren't particularly interested in things he was interested in.
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And that's another thing that I feel like I have to watch out for too, was when we first
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met, I definitely expressed that I was an outdoorsy type person and he definitely was
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We went on like one with his buddies and that was like it.
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Um, so yeah, I feel like sometimes they're like, oh yeah, I like that too, just to kind
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And then once I got to know him and was, yeah, then dating him, I was like, no, you don't
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I mean, like how many hours did this guy try to explain Call of Duty stuff to you?
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I feel like he would try to and I'd just be like, mm, mm, oh wow, nice.
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Brian, I went on a Bumble first date this past Sunday.
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I paid for the lunch date, but the girl unmatched me two hours after the date was done.
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That's why, you know, you should, they should pay for the date.
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If you agreed to the terms and conditions, that's on you.
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Some people just don't know how to turn, let you down, actually communicate, so they'll just block you or whatever.
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So, I would just, yeah, low commitment shit, I guess, you know.
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I mean, I think it's like Bumble, so that's what he said.
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So, I guess the girl hits first, and then the guy, I guess, picks up the bill.
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I think today, it's, the women go today, a lot of the women go today to have free dinner, and a lot of the guys are serial daters.
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So, if you have a real intention to be with a girl seriously, you wouldn't go to multiple dates.
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And the girls, if they wouldn't want dinner, they wouldn't go to multiple dates.
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So, if you were serious about finding Mrs. Right, right, then wouldn't you want to meet with a bunch of different women?
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It doesn't mean you have to sleep with them, right?
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But wouldn't you go and get to know them and things like that?
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Yes, but I'll phrase it differently, because I work with a lot of women, and I hear a lot of stories every day.
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But now it's become the fashion to go on dates, either a lot of girls said, oh, I'll just go with him to dinner.
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They just want to go to dinner and have the dinner taken home.
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And a lot of the guys, because it's instant gratification, all these, you know, apps,
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they just go to multiple dating, not to actually find their soulmates.
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They go to, you know, find, you know, hookups and quick instant gratification.
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It's not a lot of guys and girls that actually go to find the one and only.
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They try to make it organically, like through friends or something, because I talk to a lot of people.
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And you have to understand, I see it differently, because when I travel to the Middle East or to Europe,
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a lot of that is a completely different perspective.
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In America, either you are too much of a gold digger or you're a guy that's just looking for,
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This is the perception, you understand, for the people.
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But don't most people meet their long-term relationship interests online?
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Now, yes, it's true, but a lot of people taking advantage of the apps, they don't go there sincerely.
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Well, no, yeah, I don't, like, I don't disagree, I think, with the spirit of what you're saying.
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You're saying that women can be very predatory and they just want a free lunch.
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Women, yeah, I talk to women who, you know, grew up in the 70s.
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They would go on dates with guys just to get a free meal.
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But, I mean, I think it's made hookup culture worse.
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But kind of this idea, this first idea that you had of, well, wait a second, I think that maybe it's not a good thing for people to be meeting online.
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You don't have to have a physical relationship with them.
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But I would think you'd want to get to know various people, right?
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But my point is exactly to what you said, that a lot of people, they don't have the patient.
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If I want to meet a guy, it would have to happen organically.
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I would not have sex with a guy unless it's a serious relationship.
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I mean, are we swinging for the stars here on the dating thing?
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Like, if you're kind of giving advice, the dating advice, you know what I mean?
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And you're divorced and not in a long-term relationship.
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I was married for 10 years, a little bit more, actually.
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But I tell you what, because I'm not originally American and how I see it from an outer-sides
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perspective, it's, to me, what's going on here with the dating, it's, like, weird.
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It's either what you give me, what I take from you.
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Yeah, but, I mean, if you go into Europe, there's a lot of that's transactional, too.
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I mean, that's what the Passport Bro thing is all about.
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Like, this is not something which is isolated to the United States, right?
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From what I would call it a bit of female narcissism.
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Not to say that they're actual narcissists, right?
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But I do think that there is quite a bit of transaction involved.
00:39:58.440
Yeah, but, like, in the Middle East, it's completely different.
00:40:03.120
Yeah, that's because women don't have rights in the Middle East.
00:40:11.340
Sorry, yeah, I'd like to add something to you about Israel.
00:40:17.580
When you say the Middle East, I mean, that's not...
00:40:20.220
Almost nobody's ever referring to the one Westernized nation in the Middle East.
00:40:24.000
No, but can I just say something regarding what you're saying?
00:40:26.820
Because it's important, because Americans, a lot of them don't understand it.
00:40:30.040
Israel, it's super feminist, but it's also super chauvinist.
00:40:34.840
If I'm a woman going to the army, right, and I'm married or dating my boyfriend, I can go
00:40:40.360
to the army, shoot people, whatever job I have in the army, but I come home, I cook,
00:40:47.680
And in the night, I'll take a shower, put my makeup, and be sexy for my men.
00:40:53.480
Here, it's like, it's either you are, you know, like not taking care of yourself.
00:40:58.940
I don't know what's the right word to say, but either you're not wearing makeup, you're
00:41:03.540
really super feminist, you kind of hate women, or you're super feminine looking and super
00:41:16.640
You have to be a woman, feminine woman that loves men and respects men, right?
00:41:21.220
But in the other hand, you could be feminist, but in a different way.
00:41:24.520
What you guys call feminist, we look at it, it's ridiculous, because feminism here, it's
00:41:30.100
Yeah, but I kind of think that this is experience-based and anecdotal.
00:41:34.180
So when I talk to people from Israel, especially men, this is not the take that I'm getting,
00:41:39.520
that their women are sheroes out in the battlefield, but nice submissive house cats when they get
00:41:45.320
That definitely does not seem to be most of their experiences.
00:41:48.500
I don't know who you're talking, but all the Israelis.
00:41:51.540
Why don't we table this, and if you guys want, you can come back to it later, just so I can
00:41:56.200
get through all the relationship status things.
00:42:03.180
I actually, I've done some further thinking on this, and I actually think she probably
00:42:07.120
liked you so much, she deleted her Bumble, she didn't unmatch you, she just deleted her
00:42:16.740
Like, she liked you so much, she's like, I don't want to do the dating apps anymore, I
00:42:30.080
And wait, actually, you had something you wanted to jump in on, so I'll let you go.
00:42:33.680
To add, because I definitely think that it's also dependent on what dating app you choose
00:42:40.620
I feel like if you hop on Tinder, most people on Tinder, I feel like, I mean, from what I've
00:42:47.820
gathered, are just looking for a quickie-type relationship, whereas people who are on, like,
00:42:57.040
Hinge are very much more putting energy into their profiles, and it seems like more relationships
00:43:05.780
come out of that, but that one specifically, people are, yeah, hoping to find a relationship
00:43:13.320
So I definitely think that it's dependent on what app you're on.
00:43:19.040
If you're on Tinder, you can't be super shocked if you don't find a great guy that treats you
00:43:28.800
So just going back to you really quickly, you've been single for three years, longest
00:43:33.940
Your most recent thing, you had a little fling in Hawaii.
00:43:36.460
Have you kept in touch with this person, or is it you're leaving it strictly a fling?
00:43:42.120
I have respect for the person, but I can't do the long distance.
00:43:47.920
My first relationship, too, and I think I mentioned we would have, I think, definitely
00:44:00.120
And I kind of say that he ruined me in the best ways, and he was so great to me that finding
00:44:05.460
someone that kind of meets the bar that he sets has been really hard.
00:44:14.820
No, as in, like, I feel like, so it was my first relationship, and I feel like a lot
00:44:19.460
of girls, their first relationship, unfortunately, they could be in a toxic relationship, and then
00:44:25.520
after that, you kind of just see toxic patterns.
00:44:37.780
Never had anything that I felt the need to bring up to him that was bothering me.
00:44:44.480
So, yeah, it was just a very great, loving relationship, and finding an emotional and physical
00:44:53.340
connection like that with someone else has definitely been really hard.
00:44:57.560
That was your longest relationship, the two-year one?
00:45:15.220
But this is, like, distance, distance isn't, like, Europe.
00:45:19.880
We're talking about, you know, having to hop on to play, which I was more than willing
00:45:26.160
But we were just, I was also starting, like, college.
00:45:32.160
In that three-year period, have you had anything longer term?
00:45:47.000
Brian, can you not do a podcast without single mom simp?
00:45:51.460
Fat boy Andrew needs to clean up his damn room.
00:45:54.340
Looks like it smells like sweaty balls and bathing boots.
00:46:13.920
I also, again, was very much in the, well, I was, like, well, I had transferred after transferring
00:46:28.340
Unfortunately, after I did lose someone, I then was in the mentality of, I don't think
00:46:34.080
it's healthy for me to start something with someone.
00:46:42.280
I've been single for, like, a year and a half to two years.
00:46:52.540
And you previously said you, how big is your roster currently?
00:47:14.760
What do you think about the rise of AI perfect girlfriends entering the market?
00:47:19.480
As a woman, do you feel any competition or threat from this trend?
00:47:39.900
I think at the end of the day with the AI perfect girlfriends, they don't offer nearly
00:47:44.040
as much of a compatibility relationship to anybody.
00:47:46.980
So I think that's something that unfortunately doesn't align to the equal expectation.
00:47:52.780
Do you feel a threat being in terms of your occupation?
00:47:59.900
What about the AI, the future like AI sex robots?
00:48:05.300
If a guy wants to have sex with like metal, I will let him and I will never talk to him
00:48:14.320
So Westworld, like basically they, they, they look like just like humans.
00:48:21.660
But I feel like Instagram is more of a threat than that.
00:48:24.960
Guys already have like virtual girlfriends made up in their head on that damn app.
00:48:31.260
I think to be threatened by something that isn't even real is kind of irrational.
00:48:41.720
So gray goo, it's this hypothetical, how do I explain it?
00:48:46.920
It would be a self-replicating thing that ate, consumed biological material.
00:48:53.300
So essentially it would self-replicate and it would consume all biological material and
00:48:57.620
it would just essentially eat everything, including the earth.
00:49:03.440
It's like a existential potential risk of some sort of AI development.
00:49:14.640
You could create some sort of nano thing that could feed on biological matter and it self-replicates
00:49:23.540
So basically it just spreads and spreads and like, you know.
00:49:27.000
If it's already thought of, it exists in my mind.
00:49:54.040
Like how I was like, wait, what do you mean stacked?
00:50:02.140
I mean, what would be the point if they weren't stacked though?
00:50:05.880
Like, what would be the point if they weren't stacked?
00:50:08.500
Like, you're making like a fake person when you want to make them like.
00:50:10.720
Some people don't like the perfect, so not all of them are going to be stacked.
00:50:15.900
I feel like the guys who would go for like an AI girlfriend would want someone who just
00:50:23.280
Well, so I think, I think kind of the point of the, the question is to envision it maybe
00:50:29.780
Assume for a second that you could take a perfect celebrity body and face that, that, I don't
00:50:36.180
know, most men would be attracted to and give them thousands of different options of whatever
00:50:43.440
And they basically could interact in essentially more or less the same way that a human being
00:50:48.840
would, um, except essentially they didn't have to deal with any of the emotional problems.
00:50:54.920
Any, you know, basically they wouldn't have to deal with the human being on the other end.
00:50:58.740
They could just basically objectify their sex robot.
00:51:01.340
But if that was the technological leap that we made, do you think that the sex dynamics
00:51:06.580
between men and women would be really screwed up and that you would be in the, the kind
00:51:10.520
of the worst end of that, I think is what he's getting at.
00:51:18.240
Yeah, that, that was about three seconds to the microphone, but go ahead.
00:51:26.300
Do you, is the TikTok brain, do you need a little energy drink or what's?
00:51:29.780
It, you know, can we save the low tier trolling for halfway through the show?
00:51:35.120
Can we save it to where we get like halfway through?
00:51:36.940
Because we, I mean, we just got started, you're already trolling.
00:51:46.520
I wasn't listening when, I don't listen when it's not my turn.
00:51:56.380
It's like the teacher putting on the fucking student on.
00:52:08.760
You just weren't, you didn't even listen to what any of the other girls were talking about.
00:52:14.780
Andrew even restated the question in a better, like an easier way for you to answer it.
00:52:19.240
What were you thinking about when you were not listening to what all these girls said?
00:52:40.920
Here, like, can you just verbalize your thoughts?
00:53:18.420
If, I'm just letting you know, if you, if we have to repeat one more question to you, and
00:53:24.500
you're not listening, I'm just going to kick you off the show.
00:53:38.260
And then you said you got no one to replace us with, so then we came.
00:53:42.060
No, that was her who wasn't going to come today.
00:53:45.820
If she wasn't going to come today, do you think I was?
00:53:56.580
Well, because what it does, it derails the show.
00:54:00.700
And so, unfortunately, if you derail the show, and we have to get into repeating everything,
00:54:05.880
it kind of breaks up the speed of the conversation.
00:54:08.420
So the point of the show is that you're here to have a conversation on dating and interpersonal
00:54:14.580
And so we do expect that people come on the show, participate in the show.
00:54:27.380
Well, if you would like, you can repeat, and I will answer.
00:54:31.800
Like, whatever the question was that he was asking me.
00:54:49.680
Are you threatened that you will not have a possibility of the true connection and relationship?
00:54:59.640
And there is not much of a connection already going on, so...
00:55:10.680
Because they could do anything, and they could be anyone.
00:55:15.740
But I haven't experienced it, so I'm not really too sure.
00:55:20.520
But once it comes about, then we'll see how I feel kind of thing.
00:55:35.640
If a man was interested in that, I would not be interested in him.
00:55:41.640
So I'm not threatened because I am married, but single women who are in this world should
00:55:47.180
be threatened because men are already disconnecting completely.
00:55:54.740
Where it is very minimal investment and huge reward.
00:55:59.620
And when AI comes in, I don't remember the full stats, but it's like a crazy number.
00:56:06.700
In just a matter of a few days or weeks, it's millions and millions of downloads.
00:56:14.700
Let me try to follow up on this just briefly because I don't think that women understand
00:56:22.140
So let's, let's, let's, let me ask it this way.
00:56:25.520
Let's pretend aliens came down from a different planet.
00:56:30.700
And all of them appeared to be extremely good looking females.
00:56:35.740
And they were genetically close enough that men, if they had sex with them, could impregnate
00:56:43.120
And they came down and they said, they said, listen, we're here for the male DNA and there's
00:56:49.140
just billions of us and we need to be impregnated by the men.
00:56:59.740
And we're all, they're all beautiful in comparison to like the average female.
00:57:05.720
Would you feel like, oh shit, we have, because there's no actual competition to this at all.
00:57:12.780
No woman's ever seen any competition other than other women.
00:57:15.540
So I'm just wondering if that dynamic existed, would you feel threatened then?
00:57:19.400
No, because it's nothing we can do about it anyways.
00:57:27.140
I don't think that women just, the only competition in life is like other women.
00:57:34.060
Like, a lot of women don't even, my competition is not driven by other women.
00:57:38.640
Like, I obviously know that other guys find women attractive and that's a thing, but I
00:57:44.160
Well, but I mean, then who are you competing with?
00:57:46.320
Men have to compete inside of a hierarchical structure.
00:57:50.780
But that's kind of a cop-out because you're a woman.
00:57:54.820
So you're saying, I don't have to compete with other women.
00:57:56.840
I don't have to compete with women, but if you're competing with yourself, you're still
00:58:00.700
So I don't really even understand that, that cop-out, right?
00:58:03.880
Men have to compete within a hierarchy and women seem like they have to compete with
00:58:10.020
But I don't see where women have to compete with men.
00:58:16.560
I think, actually, in Netflix, it's a Russian TV show that all the AI women are like gorgeous
00:58:25.680
But I think if it actually happened, me personally, I won't feel threatened, not because I'm not
00:58:34.380
I'll just give in, you know, take them and that's it.
00:58:36.920
I cannot compete with something that is superior, you know?
00:58:40.280
I feel like if they came out with, like, an AI woman, they'd also come out with an AI man.
00:58:49.280
While I totally agree with that, that they would, in fact, try to satiate that market very,
00:58:54.880
very quickly, AI men aren't going to provide resources.
00:59:00.220
And it seems that the distinction here between men and women is that often women are going
00:59:07.980
Men are not going for women to provide them with resources.
00:59:10.580
They don't give a shit if women have resources or not.
00:59:12.600
They don't care if you're the hot chick at the Taco Bell or the hot chick who's the CEO
00:59:18.220
They think both equally worthy of carrying their baby.
00:59:21.680
Wait, Andrew, one thing on this, though, that does occur to me.
00:59:24.060
If we're to the point where we have, like, AI, you're talking about, like, AI sex robots,
00:59:31.780
Honestly, I think that if we're technologically that advanced,
00:59:35.920
we might be in, like, a post-scarcity world in terms of resources.
00:59:45.380
So if you go back and you look, for instance, if you were to go back to the porn industry
00:59:48.820
and you realize that the reason we moved from VHS not to Laserdisc, which was better than DVD,
00:59:55.040
was because that was the standard the porn industry wanted to use.
00:59:58.640
Industries can be hyper-focused on a type of technology, whereas other industries stay totally
01:00:04.580
The industry right now seems to be really focusing on this technology.
01:00:08.660
So it could be, in the next 20 years, far more advanced than you think, while other
01:00:13.280
Maybe farming equipment and stuff like that really doesn't keep pace with whatever the
01:00:18.680
So I think it's possible that you could see a world in which there are, you know, beautiful
01:00:28.320
And if that's the case, and then we draw kind of that alien parallel, right?
01:00:33.700
It seems that women would kind of be the ones in the negative there because they're not
01:00:42.060
You don't think there'd be any type of government, like, regulation to that, per se?
01:00:47.780
I mean, I certainly think that there would be, but what are they going to regulate, right?
01:01:00.280
I have to be honest without sounding rude, but with the majority of the women I see in
01:01:04.920
this country, probably the AI is going to be much better.
01:01:09.960
It's, I mean, there is, girls, what we need to provide to men is the support, connection.
01:01:30.380
I mean, just listening, just a few words from, I mean, he was gaming, right?
01:01:36.600
Why didn't you guys talk about, like, how you will like his hobbies, how he will like
01:01:43.020
You got a lot about men that you're in your business.
01:01:45.720
That in particular was just a hobby that I will never get into.
01:01:50.480
I do want to try to, we can come back to the AI stuff.
01:01:54.120
Let's get, let's get everybody's intro out of the way.
01:01:56.540
And then we need to also, there's a bunch of TTSs that are still on the intro here.
01:02:07.860
I think I just, we just broke up a relationship after four years, unfortunately, how long you
01:02:28.780
Actually, married twice, but the second time it's to get out of the army.
01:02:34.780
I'm single and I had been for like a year and a bit.
01:02:37.880
And my longest relationship was like nearly six months.
01:02:44.360
And my longest relationship is about six years, which is my current husband.
01:02:48.980
We dated for about a year and a half before we got married.
01:02:52.660
Married, 10 years together, seven years married, and this is my longest relationship.
01:03:30.840
One day, I will return to France and I will do all my possible to change the future, to change the destiny of my people.
01:04:13.240
Please, Brian, for the love of all that's good, kick the Aussie off.
01:04:19.960
I don't think I can listen to her stupidity for another minute.
01:04:41.400
For the social justice degree, I'll take my latte brief with three creme and three splendor.
01:05:30.940
I have my opinions on that, but I don't want to talk about it.
01:05:38.160
Communism, it's black and white, but no, somewhere in the middle.
01:05:45.080
Capitalism is better because we live freely, but in a way, it's also destroying us.
01:06:09.000
Like, the resources aspect of it, you know, distributing them.
01:06:13.620
But obviously, there's things that are flawed about both.
01:06:20.300
That's technically, you know, because they're...
01:06:23.660
They're, like, dividing the resources equally, right?
01:06:26.800
Like, they're all doing the work, and it's all going towards, like, the one cause, you
01:06:34.620
Do you think those communities are thriving, though?
01:06:40.200
It is for the amount of work that you may be doing, like, ten times more.
01:06:43.180
You would be paid exactly the same as the person who doesn't do any work at all.
01:06:47.100
And it is equal pay, whether you put more effort into that or you don't do anything at all.
01:06:54.380
It can damage the spirit, especially if you're an entrepreneur type.
01:06:58.720
You just want to create, and you have so much ambition.
01:07:03.660
Because you're going to be getting paid the same as everyone else.
01:07:08.000
What's the incentive to create, to innovate, to...
01:07:13.340
If you're all going to be paid the same, there's obviously a ton of flaws within capitalism as well.
01:07:20.240
Not to say that, but I think the example that you brought up, too, was before the advancement of a lot of technology.
01:07:28.320
I think when you take technology into consideration as well, then...
01:07:32.720
You don't prefer, like, a mixed economy or something that's more socialist-based?
01:07:41.820
But it was choosing between capitalism and communism, and if I had to choose between those two, yeah, but definitely for a mix.
01:07:55.180
Wait, so if you could, if you could snap your fingers and we switched to communism over what we currently have, would you do it?
01:08:06.900
I'm just saying, like, in an ideal world, you know?
01:08:09.720
But no, I would not, like, just switch right now.
01:08:29.000
It's, like, we'll play the first 10 seconds of it.
01:08:42.740
Yeah, please come on air and just say the current situation I'm in.
01:08:57.440
Lying, trying to make a character, trying to be like these other influencers.
01:09:04.300
My relationship is rocky now because I'm not earning money, putting pressure on her.
01:09:22.220
Did he say he's going, he claims, I don't know if he said in the video, he claims he's
01:09:32.580
But he blamed him himself going broke on the whatever podcast, because he came on the
01:09:41.340
And look, Bevo, tell you what, yo, Andrew, should we have this guy come back on the show?
01:09:58.800
But here, Andrew, what do you think about this as a contingency?
01:10:03.360
He has to break up with his OF porn star girlfriend if he wants to come back on the show.
01:10:17.780
We can also ask him specifically why he kind of made up a bunch of these tall tables.
01:10:21.660
Like, we can ask him some of those questions and, you know, maybe, but maybe we can find
01:10:28.760
So, Bevo, if you're back in Los Angeles, we will have you back on the show.
01:10:33.260
So, you can redeem yourself and, what's the term?
01:10:52.180
AI doesn't replace the human needs and desires.
01:10:55.920
To the panel, can AI be a hypothetical to disconnect the dating scene and maybe reduce birth rates?
01:11:03.520
Disconnect the dating scene, maybe reduce birth rates.
01:11:24.780
My wife and I are old school lesbians and don't agree with LGBTQ.
01:11:30.140
We think that most of the U.S. has accepted gays and lesbians, but LGBTQ keeps going out of their way not to be accepted.
01:11:50.780
They're just, like, I'm guessing an older couple.
01:11:52.520
I think they mean just, like, they're not nearly as open about pride and kind of expressing themselves as freely as...
01:12:02.240
To the Israeli, I'm sorry you had to go through the terrorist attack in the aftermath.
01:12:13.700
All right, guys, we're going to boost the TTS up to $200.
01:12:30.320
I'm trying to remember exactly where we had left off.
01:12:37.740
Unless, Andrew, you had a few closing thoughts on that specific topic.
01:12:41.480
Yeah, I mean, I just try to think about it from the angle of men, too, right?
01:12:50.320
So, like, if an alien race came down, alien species came down, and they were all really,
01:12:56.200
really good-looking men with tons and tons of resources, I think that human men would
01:13:05.140
We would basically, you know, I think we would go extinct on this end.
01:13:10.340
But when it's kind of reversed, when I asked women this question, now, to be fair, most
01:13:15.600
of this panel was like, yeah, we would have a big problem.
01:13:17.900
But if I asked women this question, they often are like, no, I still don't think that there
01:13:24.020
I think that there would be a big problem because of that resource exchange.
01:13:28.260
And so I think when we were talking about AI, we can...
01:13:30.480
It's not a perfect analogy, but I think it maps on pretty well to what people are foreseeing
01:13:36.800
Yeah, I think it's just easy not to care about the collective sometimes and just be like,
01:13:40.960
I wouldn't care, but I guess it would be for everyone else who's alone.
01:13:49.660
And then if you're actually experiencing it, it would be absolutely terrifying.
01:14:06.900
If you're talking about in the sense of, would an alien girlfriend steal my van, I don't
01:14:20.880
Andrew, you remember the movie with Kim Basinger?
01:14:25.240
It was like she was playing a woman from space.
01:14:29.820
And then she brought, in the end of the movie, all the women from her planet, they were all
01:14:35.220
And the regular women there were like looking at them in shock.
01:14:39.180
And at the same time, she doesn't have periods or mood swings.
01:14:45.920
And I think it was Bruce Willis and Kim Basinger.
01:14:53.120
It's really, it's not AI, but it's like an alien that looks gorgeous and perfect.
01:15:00.760
I mean, the last movie I saw where it was about alien who looked gorgeous was Species.
01:15:05.080
And I thought that that encapsulated female nature pretty well.
01:15:15.620
That'll tell you a lot about the female nature, for sure.
01:15:18.120
So this segment can be Andrew's movie recommendations.
01:15:28.420
Can I add one thing about the question where the guy was talking about that he went on a
01:15:36.960
So as Andrew mentioned, that lots of people actually meeting online.
01:15:42.900
The couples from my service, they are meeting online.
01:15:45.520
But the way to make it effectively in dating and vet out their own women is why not to get
01:15:53.620
them invested first with their time and, you know, just start video talking with them.
01:16:02.280
You know, make the, before you get actually to the real date, check and see if she is really
01:16:11.920
I mean, it is reported that when the guys get on the video dates, that nine out of 10
01:16:17.440
women is not exactly to their standards, not exactly what they were displayed in their
01:16:21.900
So why not to make it effective, save lots of money, talk to her on the video, see if
01:16:27.480
there is connection, you know, and then when you go on the date and Brian, I think men should
01:16:32.880
pay for the meal in the restaurant, but I think men will not mind to do that when they know
01:16:39.780
that they actually with a high quality female, that they, that she is definitely into you.
01:16:47.780
So these two girls are currently fucking five other men.
01:16:50.320
And would you recommend that if I'm on a date with either of them, that I ought to pay for
01:16:55.320
the, pay for their meal, if I'm on a date with either?
01:16:58.260
But why would you want to go on a date with them to begin with?
01:17:01.700
So it is the choice that you are making for yourself.
01:17:04.320
Do you choose the women who has low standards and values or do, are you actually looking for
01:17:09.520
a high value partner for their, uh, for their quality relationship?
01:17:17.180
A lot of, a lot of women are less than, they might be less than honest with what their
01:17:23.900
So make them invest to talk with you on the video first.
01:17:30.140
We're talking about just video call, whatever it is on the, you know, on the, uh, on the phone,
01:17:36.580
Not paying per minute of her, like, undressing in front of you.
01:17:40.540
A lot of the women lie and they don't tell the truth.
01:17:46.780
But women who have agenda to just go and have a free meal, they're not going to be investing
01:17:50.940
their time to speak with someone on the video for free.
01:18:00.320
I don't understand why a woman couldn't lie on video.
01:18:03.500
A woman is not, will not be willing to invest her time to speaking with a guy for a couple
01:18:10.560
of hours to, uh, unless she has sincere interest in him.
01:18:18.060
I feel like you would just go for someone if you.
01:18:22.860
They send hours and hours of time talking to different men based on resources.
01:18:29.380
I'm talking about a woman who is actually just having, uh, just a regular conversation
01:18:34.560
with a guy on the video without being paid for it.
01:18:42.180
What I'm saying is that I don't really understand why it is that if a guy makes a video call to
01:18:47.440
a woman, suddenly he's immune from her being deceptive.
01:18:52.340
I'm not saying he would be immune, but that gives him the opportunity to create connection,
01:18:59.140
So by the time they actually get on a real date, they already know if the interest is
01:19:06.740
And come on, in a couple hours, men cannot figure it out if the woman is really into him
01:19:11.940
I mean, how much in common they have, if he is attracted to her, if they see the mutual
01:19:53.760
If the guy likes her and thinks you have a potential in the dates to get something or
01:19:59.360
either you want to go out with her or have sex, whatever.
01:20:02.360
women are master manipulator in order to have two, three, four guys on standby.
01:20:07.960
Well, I was talking about going to a restaurant for someone to actually pay for the meal.
01:20:15.560
Yes, but it's not just the restaurant, girls not go just for the meal.
01:20:21.160
Because if the guy is an idiot just to pay for her meal, even if she doesn't like him,
01:20:24.760
he would be an idiot to put money on her account.
01:20:27.600
Why do you think OnlyFan and prostitution and all this is so successful today?
01:20:30.760
Well, that's where men control their own wallet.
01:20:35.760
A lot of men don't know how to deal with women, especially the women of today.
01:20:39.300
Because women literally destroyed the world today, and I'll explain why.
01:20:43.060
Because in the 50s, the women were completely different than the women today.
01:20:46.060
I'm sorry to cut the combo short, but Brian, we lost audio on this end.
01:21:03.060
You could have probably just done stop, start virtual camera.
01:21:08.060
My point is that majority of the women today, and it started in the 70s, by the way.
01:21:15.060
I don't want to be against anybody, but let's be honest.
01:21:19.060
And radical feminism destroyed the world and destroyed women.
01:21:26.060
It's kind of like destroyed their own for themselves.
01:21:36.060
And you think that everything you do, you're a perfect one.
01:21:42.060
Men have more value when they get older than a woman.
01:21:46.060
And if women come and treat men like a wallet, and everything has to be transactional, okay,
01:21:53.060
And today, we are suffering because high-quality women like, okay, you're married, but high-quality
01:22:00.060
women like me or other girls or other women that I know, right, they suffer because if
01:22:05.060
I look good and I go with a man to dinner, immediately they think that if I look sexy and I have big boobs,
01:22:10.060
immediately I'm going to go to bed, do a line of cocaine.
01:22:14.060
The good women suffer from what the other women did because radical feminism literally
01:22:27.060
The choices that women make for the type of men that they go out with, I mean, that should
01:22:30.060
be on them, the type of choices that they make for themselves.
01:22:36.060
Women complaining on rape when it didn't happen.
01:22:45.060
Men can talk to a woman and text with her and then she can go and sue him for something
01:22:49.060
And I know a lot of people that it happened to them.
01:22:53.060
Like, I have a son and I warn him and tell him, don't do this, don't do that, because
01:23:00.060
Women literally destroyed it for us and for relationship and for men and for women.
01:23:09.060
I think that men also, though, there's, you know...
01:23:19.060
No, it starts with women, because we are the stubborn.
01:23:25.060
Me in particular, or like we've all, I know, have probably heard men mature later than
01:23:33.060
So I feel like finding a connection with someone my age in particular is really hard.
01:23:40.060
So then, okay, we maybe go for older men, but then it does come off as us looking to
01:23:52.060
Not we meant at all, but I'm saying that I don't think it's only women, I think.
01:23:56.060
That there are issues on both sides that we can...
01:23:58.060
Yeah, but that's kind of a weird thing to say, because even if we were to grant that
01:24:02.060
women mature faster than men, they're not maturing to the age of like many years quicker
01:24:09.060
So maybe a man matures or a woman matures like two years quicker, let's say, or something
01:24:15.060
But in an age gap relationship, you're usually talking about, you know, seven, eight, nine,
01:24:19.060
ten years, something like that, not within two or three years.
01:24:22.060
So I'm not really sure that that means that much, even if women do mature quicker than
01:24:32.060
Because of my age, I saw the generation changes.
01:24:35.060
I'm not patronizing you in any way, but I'll explain, right?
01:24:39.060
When I was younger, in your age, sex was not so free and accessible.
01:24:47.060
You know, women that sleep around, nobody would take them seriously or marry them or want
01:24:52.060
Today, with OnlyFans, sorry, with disrespect, but with OnlyFans and porn and everything, women
01:24:58.060
think they're doing something good because they have value, they replace value with money.
01:25:03.060
They think if they have money, they have value.
01:25:05.060
But what's going to happen when you get to my age, okay, you realize that you didn't
01:25:10.060
surround yourself by good men and good people that protect you.
01:25:13.060
Because if a woman have a good upbringing, surrounded by a good brother, good friends,
01:25:18.060
good family, good men that she dating, she would never go to this route.
01:25:22.060
She would protect herself because the emotional and psychological damage that happened to women
01:25:29.060
after they've been in sexual professions, it's going to damage you so bad.
01:25:35.060
So even if you make $20 million or $100 million, you can never replace your emotional, physical,
01:25:42.060
and physical damage that you're doing to yourself.
01:25:45.060
Because right now, maybe you come from a broken home, poor house, whatever, being sexually abused,
01:25:52.060
But when you get that money and you realize that you have no value whatsoever,
01:25:56.060
you're not going to gracefully age like a 50-year-old woman, and you're not going to gracefully age that people respect you.
01:26:03.060
And if you have kids, your kids are going to see it on the internet, people are going to laugh at them.
01:26:08.060
And everywhere you go, and also, I don't want to be disrespectful, but physically, you're, you're, you're, you know,
01:26:16.060
I don't want to say that word, but you know what I mean.
01:26:18.060
We are women, we are the portal of the universe.
01:26:22.060
And the value when we bring kids, when we get married, when we have family, when your kids grow up,
01:26:28.060
and they see you, you're supposed to be a mother in this world, and not to be a tool.
01:26:32.060
So every DNA that you have in your body from every man, it's, it's got what going to make you sick from the inside for the rest of your life.
01:27:01.060
I really said that from my heart, because I feel like she could be my daughter.
01:27:07.060
Like, I really, honestly, I feel really bad for you.
01:27:10.060
Yeah, because, you know, if it was my daughter, I would protect you.
01:27:13.060
I just feel that your parents, or whoever you grew up with, didn't protect you.
01:27:16.060
If you had the right love when you grew up, it would never happen.
01:27:21.060
Like, I do actually agree with what you're saying.
01:27:23.060
And like, I feel like a lot of OnlyFans girls do come out of broken homes and stuff.
01:27:29.060
And I kind of feel like, it's not really like how you brought up.
01:27:32.060
It's kind of even like, the people that you kind of like hang around, kind of thing.
01:27:41.060
Jenna Jameson, she was a big, big porn star in America.
01:27:51.060
But everything she did when she was young, affect her.
01:27:55.060
Even though she's acting, and she's modeling, she's so smart, and she's a loyal friend.
01:28:02.060
No matter what she's going to do, it will never erase from her history.
01:28:06.060
People and men, in particular, are going to see her as a sexual object.
01:28:09.060
Even if she has a regular conversation, they're going to remember the tattoo on her butt.
01:28:14.060
And they're going to remember all the sexual activity she had.
01:28:20.060
And if you're sitting in this podcast, there are reasons that you really, you know, you really think about it.
01:28:32.060
But I feel like within this day and age, and like how the generation is.
01:28:57.060
My dad's sitting in jail for murder my whole life.
01:28:59.060
My uncle tried to molest me, but I was strong because of the conversation I had with my dad.
01:29:21.060
If you won't protect yourself, nobody will protect you.
01:29:24.060
Because when you're at your home, you're protected.
01:29:26.060
But when you go out to the street, it's a jungle.
01:29:31.060
If you won't protect yourself, don't go from one incident that happened and base the love
01:29:56.060
And you don't need to define yourself by one incident.
01:30:00.060
Because if everybody would be like that, the world would be ruined.
01:30:08.060
I'm going to read one of the 69's that came through.
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Tips for the Australian with the week's old self tan.
01:30:36.060
And he says, subscribe to Michaela de Chatillon.
01:30:51.060
And we have our good friend Steve over there in Canada.
01:31:29.060
So, I do want to dive into a little bit here on the gaming thing.
01:31:44.060
I'm not offended that you don't want to date a guy who doesn't game.
01:31:51.060
Is it a deal breaker, red flag, if a guy is a gamer?
01:31:55.060
I think it's important to have hobbies that don't necessarily add to your income or your
01:32:02.060
But I think as well, with something like gaming, because it can definitely alter somebody's
01:32:06.060
personality in terms of addiction, it definitely can have issues and cause issues onto relationships.
01:32:10.060
I don't think it's a deal breaker, but it's definitely not ideal for somebody to have
01:32:18.060
I don't think that it's like a deal or no deal.
01:32:23.060
And it is a little bit of a red flag for me because my last relationship that I told
01:32:27.060
you about, he was a gambling addict, and I feel like that's definitely like an indicator
01:32:32.060
like, okay, if you're playing games, I don't know, that could lead to other things
01:32:42.060
It's definitely a sort of addiction, so it could...
01:32:49.060
It could definitely give me the ick here and there, depending on how much they do.
01:32:56.060
I mean, people should be allowed to enjoy whatever hobbies they have.
01:32:59.060
As your current boyfriend, does he play video games?
01:33:05.060
You see, it's the not that often sometimes, which I'm like totally okay with.
01:33:19.060
It had to have been like at least like five, six hours.
01:33:47.060
I mean, I'm all for rock band and things like that that we can do together.
01:33:51.060
But, um, when it's just, you know, me coming over thinking that we're going to do something
01:33:56.060
together and I have to watch you for maybe an hour just and pretend to be interested.
01:34:12.060
Because the, the glasses for the, for the gaming consider because I love it.
01:34:21.060
I mean, I love guys that play as long as it's not taking over their lives.
01:34:31.060
But if you are, if you have to become nocturnal to make your life work because you game that
01:34:40.060
But personally, through experience, I've dated a gamer.
01:34:47.060
I like nerdy guys, but that was too much for me and I wouldn't do it again ever, ever.
01:34:52.060
I think when you are in a relationship and you, if you had chosen that man, uh, for
01:34:57.060
you, for yourself, you just gotta love what he loves.
01:35:02.060
I have no idea what type of game he plays, but it is something shooting.
01:35:05.060
So I call it like, and my honey is saving the world, you know?
01:35:09.060
So, uh, and he comes back like from playing and like, sweetie, did you save the world?
01:35:15.060
Sometimes I would sit next to him to see how he is saving the world.
01:35:23.060
But I'm there sometimes, you know, to, to support him, make a few jokes about it.
01:35:31.060
Because when you choose that guy for yourself, you've got to connect with what's important
01:35:55.060
Yeah, I have kind of a different angle on this, I think.
01:35:58.060
Um, and this, this comes from having raised many women into adulthood and, uh, seeing their behavior.
01:36:06.060
Women waste their time on so much frivolous shit.
01:36:11.060
I mean, I didn't realize how long a manicure took, but it takes a long, long time.
01:36:16.060
And they get them done all of the time, all the time, nonstop.
01:36:20.060
Beautification processes take a long, long time.
01:36:24.060
They waste their time on tons of frivolous stuff, scrapbooking, all kinds of shit.
01:36:30.060
Stuff that I literally don't care about at all.
01:36:36.060
But the, the reason I think that the video game.
01:36:47.060
Well, maybe, maybe hobbies have changed, but they're all frivolous pursuits essentially.
01:36:48.060
I don't, I don't see women doing really anything in the way of, uh, of hobbies that aren't time wasters.
01:36:55.060
Crocheting is huge right now and people make so much money from it.
01:36:59.060
So, so I'm never, I'm never saying, never saying women.
01:37:06.060
I'm always going to leave some exceptions there, right?
01:37:08.060
There's going to be a few that don't do this kind of behavior.
01:37:12.060
Uh, but I've noticed that they definitely spend a huge amount of time on beautification, things
01:37:17.060
like this, uh, and just having their nails done in a certain way that has the right speck
01:37:32.060
But what men, I think that the reason that men express through video games quite often
01:37:35.060
is because men enjoy stories and they enjoy storytelling.
01:37:39.060
Um, and if you have looked at what comes out of Hollywood and what is on the TV, it's,
01:37:51.060
Video games used to be a pretty good venue, uh, for storytelling.
01:37:55.060
And so that's why men would be interested in playing them.
01:37:59.060
And then when MMOs came out, that was again, a way for, uh, for men to hang out from all
01:38:04.060
over everywhere and compete with each other without violence, because we're not allowed
01:38:15.060
So, so I just wonder if, um, if you're not looking at it from the perspective of men,
01:38:21.060
So I think it's, well, I just am not getting enough attention.
01:38:24.060
I just feel like I have to compete with these hobbies that you have, uh, not necessarily
01:38:38.060
I'm going to get into some of my, uh, pre-show notes here.
01:38:40.060
So I actually, I mean, one thing, I'd like to start off.
01:38:48.060
Does anybody have any disagreements on anything?
01:38:52.060
Those of you who've seen the shows, I know some of you maybe haven't.
01:39:04.060
Um, I think I've heard you say that, uh, you find that you personally would not get
01:39:09.060
married or you don't believe in getting married in this modern day.
01:39:12.060
I think that's a very fair and rational outlook.
01:39:15.060
I just still think that, I still think that you deserve to get married one day and
01:39:27.060
And married men, they leave four years longer too.
01:39:31.060
You'd be happier if you find, I think you'll be.
01:39:35.060
I can't, I don't know you so I can't say, but I think you'd be happier if you had a
01:39:38.060
woman that was your partner and like took care of all the stressful, tedious things
01:39:42.060
at home so you could do your job, whatever it is, whether it's this or whatever you end
01:39:47.060
Um, not necessarily, but I think the chances are that a woman would do that for you knowing
01:39:51.060
that she is secured like legally and also spiritually by being married to you.
01:39:58.060
Well, I think if you found a girl that did that for you, you'd want to.
01:40:07.060
Unfortunately, women, unfortunately, women, uh, made it and fixed, you know, rearrange
01:40:15.060
So men don't have to get married in order to live a good life.
01:40:18.060
Unfortunately, I'm saying it, you know, if it was back in the day, yes.
01:40:22.060
But today men doesn't need to get married in order to live a good life.
01:40:26.060
They can hire a nanny, live in nanny, whatever.
01:40:29.060
Unfortunately, a lot of women scared men from getting married.
01:40:38.060
And another thing is I think that dating apps are, it's a small percentage, but I just don't
01:40:45.060
think generally they're going to lead to true love.
01:40:47.060
Well, let's start with the, let's do one thing at a time here.
01:40:52.060
So I can present to you kind of my reasonings for why I'm not thrilled on marriage.
01:40:57.060
Uh, and so present to you my thoughts on marriage divorce, but I actually think a better
01:41:04.060
Can you actually present to me compelling and convincing arguments why I or other men should
01:41:10.060
get married, especially if we, uh, and I'm hoping you don't make religious arguments on
01:41:17.060
So, uh, as opposed to having a longterm monogamous relationship.
01:41:20.060
I just think there's something to be said for a ceremony.
01:41:25.060
I think there's something to be said for traditionalism and, uh, to leave religion out of it.
01:41:29.060
Cause personally I would use that as something, but I get what you're saying to generally suit
01:41:36.060
I think there is something to be said for the ritual of it and the commitment, the act of
01:41:45.060
So to be clear, men should get married because of the ritual.
01:41:49.060
I said there's something to be said for the ritual of it and the ceremony of it.
01:41:54.060
I think, I think that if you ever got married, which you say it's not your thing, that's fine.
01:42:00.060
I think that when you're married, I mean, I'm married myself, the connection between
01:42:09.060
I'm not a woo woo like energy, uh, astrology girl personally, but I just do think it feels
01:42:18.060
And I think that it, I think human beings are feelings and our emotions.
01:42:22.060
I'm not saying to make decisions irrationally based on your emotions, but I think that what
01:42:29.060
Like, you know, our, how we feel internally, that connection becomes deeper.
01:42:34.060
It doesn't guarantee anything, but I just think there's something to be said for creating
01:42:40.060
So what if I just tell you I'm not compelled by your, by this?
01:42:46.060
I can say you have free will and you can do whatever you want.
01:42:58.060
I would have a greater connection with a woman if we went through with the tradition or ritual.
01:43:06.060
And I know, you know, there is an expectation, not from some women, not all women that you
01:43:13.060
And then, you know, people will spend five figures upward up to six figures on the ceremony.
01:43:19.060
Um, so on that front, we're, we're actually down financially.
01:43:30.060
Well, there's, there's actually, uh, been a rise as even in, uh, wealthy couples.
01:43:36.060
No, but I've heard about it that even wealthy people are starting to, um, elope more versus
01:43:44.060
Well, I don't really care what other people are doing.
01:43:47.060
I'd like to actually hear reasons for why men ought to get married.
01:43:53.060
I think they ought to, because I think that there is more of a weight to it.
01:43:57.060
And I think more of a weight, more of a weight to standing up and promising somebody.
01:44:07.060
It's clear that it's not particularly effective in keeping people together.
01:44:13.060
Just like, just like there's a lot of things where in modern society, it's not working,
01:44:16.060
but it, it ought to, it ought to, but people's mindsets are not right.
01:44:21.060
So let's assume I'm the perfect husband, uh, you know, treat my, treat my wife.
01:44:28.060
Well, and she just isn't happy anymore, but there's no abuse.
01:44:45.060
In your, in your worldview, you might think that that's not justification, but could she
01:44:51.060
under the pretext of being not vaguely, not happy, despite there being no abuse in
01:44:57.060
the relationship I'm providing, everything's going well, treating the kids.
01:45:01.060
Well, her being her, how she feels her being not happy.
01:45:06.060
Is that enough for her to just go and get a divorce?
01:45:08.060
Are you asking me if I think it should be a legal reason or are you asking me if I
01:45:18.060
I do not think anyone can get a divorce for essentially any reason.
01:45:24.060
Are you asking me if I think it's okay for her to do so because of how she feels?
01:45:30.060
So, but I mean, there's nothing really binding you into a commitment and there's a,
01:45:35.060
So for instance, if he's talking weight, like he's talking the weight, right?
01:45:39.060
This is kind of your argument, brings more weight to the relationship.
01:45:43.060
Wouldn't a prenuptial agreement also bring more weight to the relationship?
01:45:48.060
I understand that people feel a little bit hurt.
01:45:53.060
I know you have nothing against it, but if the argument for something is that it brings
01:45:55.060
more weight because it makes the commitment more solid, wouldn't a prenup then make a
01:46:01.060
relationship more solid just by the nature that it adds more weight to the relationship?
01:46:19.060
Then they should only get married if they want to.
01:46:22.060
I don't believe in forcing anyone to get married.
01:46:24.060
So then Brian, Brian ought to only get married if he wants to.
01:46:29.060
So then what's the argument that Brian should get married?
01:46:38.060
To answer what I think you're asking is that I think that it's, it's worth it to not completely
01:46:47.060
close your mind off to the idea of it and to pursue people with that intention of seriousness,
01:46:54.060
But I just think saying absolutely no, like I said, free will, do what you want.
01:46:59.060
I just think that ultimately does bring a higher sense of satisfaction to people's lives.
01:47:07.060
So let's say I'm in a monogamous long-term relationship with a girl.
01:47:20.060
I honestly think that when you come out of relate or what we might hear if we hear,
01:47:25.060
Oh, but I never want to get me like married is, Oh, and I don't want something serious.
01:47:30.060
I, it's hard for me to picture myself married because I grew up in a single parent household
01:47:37.060
and I'm very much like, I want to be secure and I want to be financially stable before
01:47:43.060
Um, for the reasons that you mentioned, someone could in a relationship just be like,
01:47:50.060
But I'm really, I'm really confused on this point though.
01:48:10.060
So, so back to this, this idea of that, well, this proves it.
01:48:11.060
The marriage proves that you care, that you love me, this and that.
01:48:14.060
Then wouldn't you staying with him absent this commitment prove that you loved him and
01:48:23.060
If he said, well, I don't want to do this thing.
01:48:27.060
You say, but that proves to me, if you do this thing that you love me.
01:48:30.060
And he says, but it proves to me that if you don't make me do this thing that you love
01:48:35.060
Then I think in that situation, you just have to make your choice.
01:48:39.060
I think that if you're with a man, you deeply and truly love him.
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I mean, it's, you're better off being with him.
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I do think that I just being with him than not.
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But I do think that, I just think there's something to be said about actually the ceremony
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I know a lot of people get married and they shouldn't, and that's too bad.
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But it doesn't negate the, in my world view, because we're talking about my world view,
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So you're married, you've been married for four years.
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Oh, you just, there was, so you didn't have a ceremony then?
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It's like family friends, like small group family friends.
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I knew someone that had a place that I could use.
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There was music, but we had a speaker and we had YouTube premium, no ads, you know.
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I'm including, you mentioned like you paid $100 on the dress.
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Because I networked with friends and family and I found a way to set it up without spending
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any money besides my dress, which I just didn't have a white dress, so I needed
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Oh, well, I mean, marriage certificate, however much that cost.
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So without seeing the buzzword, that was during the time when, you know, we couldn't
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have gatherings and stuff, but I was grateful for it.
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I didn't want to have a big thing anyway, but I understand if people do, it's fine.
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Personally, I think that will harm the marriage.
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I haven't really parsed the argument very well, but...
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So, I mean, do a lot of women look to men to be providers?
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And I haven't really totally parsed this, but it just...
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So wouldn't a woman, like if she's looking at, to me, to be a provider, and that's one
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of the attractive traits that she sees in a male partner, is to be a provider.
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Wouldn't she be more likely to stay committed to me if we were not married?
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Because if we are married, and for whatever reason, the relationship's on the rocks, for
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whatever reason, she now has actually a financial incentive to leave me, whereas if we don't have
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marriage, that's been, you know, it's been, say it's been 10 years we've been married,
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she can continue to receive my provisioning after a divorce, whereas if she's with me,
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Like, just to be clear, it's not solely financial.
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Second of all, I think if you look at the marriage back in the fifties, when the woman
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was most, you know, sitting at home and raising the kids and giving attention to the kids
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and to the husband and cooking and everything, it was different.
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Today, after how the world looked like with marriages, that it's just an opportunity to
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A lot of the divorced women married with a single man that never been married and supporting
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Or the younger woman married with older men, you know?
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A lot of the marriage, it's not what it used to be back in the fifties.
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People not going to marriage because, oh my God, I'm in love.
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If you love your man, women physically build different than a man.
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Physically, I know it's hard to women to hear, but men build to be with more than one
01:53:27.060
When we take every man in us, it stays with us forever.
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And men, when they have sex, they get it out of their system.
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So, when you marry today and you treat your man like he always do something.
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Want to give the best to your kids that you have with him.
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Because literally, when you get into a serious relationship and you really want to live
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So, my point is, if you're not marrying someone, so he could be your king and you would be his
01:54:15.060
queen and you build something together for the rest of your life, there's no point getting
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And with all the women we see today, they're doing OnlyFans and doing whatever they want.
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So, they don't really care about the relationship.
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If I was a man, to be honest, I would not get married.
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I'm going to try to give you like three reasons why you should be married.
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So, the first one, if we look at the financial, right?
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So, how much money you were spending on going out and everything else?
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By the way, can I just, real quick, can I address these point by point as you bring them
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Because I think I know all three of the points.
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So, let's start with the first one, the financials.
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So, a man, when he is dating, he's spending lots and lots of money.
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And he is actually the time and resources chasing women and so on.
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All of the resources are staying in the family, in that relationship.
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A ton of time is being saved, which a man can invest into working or, you know, and so
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On average, how much more are married men making than single men?
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Statistically, married men are making between 30 to 40% more than single men.
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I don't think it's quite that high, but, but even, hang on.
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So, the thing is, is that it's a really strange argument to say that, wait, if you're
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married, you're going to make more money because if you're single, you're going to,
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you're not going to need to make as much money.
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If your earning potential suddenly rises to meet the demand of the family because now
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you must make that much money, I'm not really sure that that's a compelling argument for
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a single man who says, but absent a family, I don't need to make that kind of money.
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Well, my point was not about men making more money.
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My point was about men actually saving lots of time on chasing women trying to find a
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partner and spending money on the date or taking them out or traveling and so on.
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Yeah, but let's say they're not trying to find a partner.
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So, because Brian's saying, why should I get married?
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You're saying, well, one of the reasons is because financially you can then focus the
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But the problem you run into is, but if I have no family, I don't need to make as much
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That seems like a pretty glaring problem, right?
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So, again, statistically, it had been proven that men who are married and who have kids,
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And it just wakes up men in him, that he is able to step up.
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He is able to reach his fullest potential as a man.
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Before you characterize it as meeting their full potential, right?
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Or perhaps their full potential is to do something that doesn't earn a lot of money.
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And that is unlocking their full potential, right?
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Why should we assume that just because, well, they make more money because they need to or
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they can't support their family, their kids will starve if they don't work an additional
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Why should we assume that that's unlocking their full potential exactly?
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Well, we are talking about bringing the points for Brian, right?
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Like, why should we assume that because now Brian has to work 20 more hours a week, thus
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he does make more money, but he has to make that money so he can raise the family.
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I don't understand how that's unlocking Brian's potential.
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I'm not saying that he's going to be working 20 more hours per week or whatever.
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It will just activate the resources in his life through...
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Where do you think these resources in his life are going to come from?
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Are they going to magic themselves out of thin air or is he going to have to work for them?
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Okay, so then if he's making more resources, my assumption is going to be that he's doing
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I'm still a little bit confused here because you said, well, if you have a wife and children,
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what if I have a monogamous long-term girlfriend and children?
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But I could have that same motivation from a girlfriend and I could have kids with her
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I can certainly have children without being married.
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So I would argue that that's probably the bigger, you know, having children is the bigger
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I could have children out of wedlock and then I could have a long-term girlfriend.
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So what is the difference between being married and having children and being in a long-term
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relationship and monogamous and having children?
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When it comes to motivation though, I'm sticking onto your second point.
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When it comes to the motivation component, is your third point going to address the differential
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It is going to address the connection with the, when you are in marriage and relationship,
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it's going to address the intimacy and connection where your partner is actually going to be
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And your partner is going to be by your side and you will be growing together.
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And it is the connection that is important that typically when you are in just a relationship
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and you went with divorce rate, divorce rate happens when you choose poorly.
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No, I said when, uh, when person chooses poorly.
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Well, you see, when you choose the woman who actually has the values and right values for
02:01:17.060
the family, that's when you end up in the percentage of secure relationship and without
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In addition to what you were saying regarding like passion and kind of emphasizing the relationship
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through marriage, regardless, that's still applicable in any term of relationship, whether
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it be long-term without marriage and that of in marriage.
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So I can still have the same passion per se in a relationship with Brian where I'm connecting
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to him and I'm giving him all of my support constantly, regardless of being with a ring,
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That's completely just up to my integrity and to the passion that I have for that one
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So that's not to say that that's incapable and impossible for somebody that's in a long-term
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What you guys are emphasizing is just somebody's choosing to give that emphasis in passion.
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Somebody just being married doesn't mean that they're always going to give passion,
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care, and have the charisma to actually, to emphasize their whatever.
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I know you wanted to come in, but I want her to finish point number three and then Andrew
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Well, my point number three was actually about that true connection that people have
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and being able to reach to those, to the deepest level of intimacy, which is when people
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are holding themselves back, which actually addresses what you just shared, when people
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are not willing to make a full commitment, it's like they're putting walls.
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So for the woman to fully commit, when man is not committing fully, he is almost like helping
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her to activate the insecurities or some sort of insecurities in her.
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When woman knows that man is 100% committed, that gives her peace.
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I think that should have been prior to marriage.
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So I'm going to give you kind of the counter argument to this is that that's a very gynocentric
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Oh, well, if you marry her, then it'll activate your resources.
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It activates his resources, resource level activated, right?
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The button is pushed and now the resources, he's going to be making that money for her,
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How kind of her to allow him to activate those resources for her.
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And then when we move to your third point here, it's if you give her the commitment,
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Well, how great and swell for her that she won't be as insecure if you commit to her and
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can then have your entire life wrecked, destroyed and become fleeced because of these overwhelming
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All of this seems highly gynocentric and it's putting basically all the responsibility
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But again, I want to talk, I was talking about when men choose as high value women.
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A woman is the one who actually creates the relationship.
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She has to be the love and care and joy and support.
02:04:50.060
So a high value woman, she will be backing her man no matter what.
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No matter the troubles he is going through, no matter the financial challenges, no matter his habits or whatever.
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A woman is capable of either inspire her man and motivate her man for all kinds of things that he didn't even know possible.
02:05:20.060
Their financial, their sexual, their emotional.
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And that just seems like really basic stuff, though.
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Like, you're kind of, the way that you're framing it, you're almost framing this as like,
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this is a really special thing that a man gets that they have a basic level of loyalty from a woman and she's not being a backstabbing bitch, right?
02:05:40.060
Like, that just seems like it's, hang on, that just seems like a really basic thing that they should be doing anyway and not like it's extra.
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It doesn't feel like it's an extra thing that you should be getting on, you know what I mean?
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But if it is so basic, why women are not doing it?
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That's where, I mean, the results, what is going on, right?
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Why the guys are feeling deprived of their love, attention, gratitude, appreciation?
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So if it is so basic, then why women don't do it?
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There's a pandemic of men who feel that they don't get love from the woman.
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I think it's because they listen to women too often.
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I think that that's one of the primary reasons that they listen to terrible fucking advice from women all the time.
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Here's what I've learned from doing this podcast so much.
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It's not just that women have really stupid takes a lot of the time,
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but it's also that women give each other some of the worst fucking advice I've ever heard.
02:06:43.060
They give men terrible advice about what it is that they actually want.
02:06:50.060
So every time I hear about one of these, the next woman who's like,
02:06:55.060
look, the last guy I was with was a narcissistic jerk and he was an awful junkie
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And I think to myself, okay, there's some disconnect that's going on here.
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Because the thing that you, hang on, I'm almost done.
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The thing you claim you hate seems to be the thing that you go for the most.
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And then you kind of pretend that's not what you want.
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And then when I hear your advice, your advice is like, gynocentrism, gynocentrism, gynocentrism.
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What the fuck is a man getting here besides just basic human decency from a woman under your program?
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So, Andrew, what you are describing, you are describing low value woman.
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First of all, it is that it is not high quality.
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The low quality woman will go to her girlfriends and will speak badly about her man.
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And she will get the understanding of her girlfriends.
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The high value woman, she will not be speaking badly about her man.
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She will, first of all, she will not judge him for his actions.
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Where it is actually coming from, his behavior, his emotions.
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Yeah, I know, but that sounds like that's the basic expectation men should have in a relationship.
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It's a very basic, I'm asking above, above this idea of a basic expectation that I would get from a friend.
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So, I would expect a friend of mine to also not be a backbiting, conniving piece of shit and to get my back in the various situations I find myself in.
02:08:38.060
Even if he didn't, hang on, hang on, even if he didn't agree with me.
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So, what am I getting above that of what I would get from just a basic friend from this gynocentric program of yours?
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I don't think you're necessarily in every marriage.
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The person who actually hears you, hears your needs, and they're 100%.
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I wish Santa Claus would bring it to me my whole life.
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They want a really shallow emotional connection with women.
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That's the society that creates men and women right now.
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But that's where AI comes in and that's where AI is going to destroy the humanity.
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First of all, I want to say that it's not just men are like this or just women are like this.
02:09:42.060
We are all human beings and we're all doing things wrong.
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Second thing, first of all, if I were a man, I would not get married since I know women so well.
02:09:51.060
And unfortunately, I do have amazing girlfriends that I love that I know that they're amazing.
02:09:56.060
The majority of women out there are damaged from social media, from growing up, from whatever it is, right?
02:10:03.060
But like Andrew said, if a man wants to get married today, what's the point?
02:10:13.060
If he wants somebody to clean his house or cook for him, he can pay for that nowadays.
02:10:17.060
And today, unfortunately, most of the women are looking just for a provider without giving the work and the effort for the men.
02:10:25.060
But if a man lucky enough to meet a good woman, like for example, this woman that looks like she's loyal to her husband.
02:10:34.060
If men lucky enough to meet the right woman that would be there for him, okay, I would go to that extreme.
02:10:39.060
Even if he cheats, or even if she, no, I'm not talking about a guy to go every day with a different woman.
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But even if he traveled and he had something with another woman, she would be strong and smart enough not even to mention that, right?
02:10:51.060
Because men and women are built completely different than one another.
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And to have a relationship within the marriage, women, unfortunately, we are born to have a certain amount of time to have kids, to raise the kids, and to grow up gracefully.
02:11:05.060
And now the women don't want that. They want to extend it for a long term to do whatever the hell they want.
02:11:11.060
They want to abuse men after they have babies and emotionally confused with the hormones and everything.
02:11:16.060
A lot of the women treat men like, sorry to say, but like shit.
02:11:19.060
And a lot of the women that I know, I know like five clients at least for the last two months, they're telling me how they're cheating their men very, very creatively.
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And when I'm looking and hearing these stories, I'm saying, what's the wonder that a lot of men don't want to get committed?
02:11:34.060
And what's the wonder that men go on a date and prejudge a woman when you have so many women like that, that that's the only thing they care?
02:11:41.060
Can I bring up the point made up in the comment recently?
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And her point in the comment was basically, I think she said she was from Uruguay or Uruguay.
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I mean, we just for the sake of the other people who donate above the threshold.
02:12:05.060
I think a thousand in Argentina is like, it has to be USD.
02:12:08.060
So in Costa Rica, for example, I traveled to Costa Rica.
02:12:13.060
And I remember her telling me that there, like 10% of the people that are together with kids are actually married.
02:12:22.060
It's the expectancy that you stay with your person.
02:12:25.060
They don't need this contract in order to then go above and beyond, like you're kind of mentioning.
02:12:33.060
It's where, you know, you find your person, you're always with your person, you raise kids with this person, and you don't need a legal binding contract in order to confess your love or prove your love to a person.
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Sheena said, you know, the good woman, she would be okay with a man cheating on her.
02:12:58.060
I'm not saying if I have a man that every day he go out and sleep with women.
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But if my husband is loyal to me, loyalty is not always based on sexual activity.
02:13:06.060
If he did something and I don't know about it, I don't want to know about it.
02:13:09.060
Sometimes cheating actually helps the marriage.
02:13:11.060
But that means that you don't have the true intimacy in a relationship.
02:13:22.060
He does not have the support necessary from them.
02:13:25.060
Are you saying that you want your man to cheat on you?
02:13:29.060
But I'm saying, sometimes a man can be with a woman that she's trash and come back home
02:13:44.060
Because you have kind of a habit of going on some kind of long-winded diatribe.
02:13:48.060
So I want to kind of nail some of this down, okay?
02:13:51.060
So when you're talking about a situation, a specific situation where like a man can step
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out and realize he had something better at home.
02:14:00.060
Like for the sake of argument, it logically makes sense to me that that could happen in
02:14:06.060
But it also makes sense to me that that's doing something fucking horrible to your woman.
02:14:14.060
I mean, you would recommend men don't do that, correct?
02:14:18.060
But I've seen like, for example, men in Dubai or Bedouins in the Middle East, that they
02:14:25.060
And it's completely different when you're here in this life that you live in America
02:14:38.060
But I'm saying in general, when a man cheat, it's not like a woman cheat.
02:14:42.060
If a woman cheat, she literally doesn't love her spouse.
02:14:45.060
If a man cheat, he can have sex with a woman and forget about it the next day and go back
02:14:53.060
I mean, so I think I can see what you're saying here from a logical standpoint.
02:14:57.060
So I do think that they have different natures in that what you're saying here makes some
02:15:01.060
sense, that men don't have the same emotional attachment that women do.
02:15:07.060
And when they're stepping out, they're kind of showing the ultimate sign of I don't care
02:15:11.060
Whereas for a man, it could be purely physical.
02:15:19.060
But then wouldn't that kind of move towards a model of a one size fits all marriage of
02:15:24.060
There should be some type of, I don't know, behavioral modifications, which happens so that
02:15:30.060
Listen, in America, in America, in most of the open countries, I mean, free countries,
02:15:40.060
I know women that marry to a guy that have two and three women and they live perfectly
02:15:56.060
So they just settle for accepting the circumstance.
02:16:02.060
Well, that argument makes no sense because if multiple women were attached to one guy,
02:16:06.060
then wouldn't that create a surplus of women for the other men?
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It would create a surplus of men for the other women.
02:16:19.060
Explain to me because I really didn't understand what you meant.
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Well, she was saying, she was saying, well, look, it's because they have no other
02:16:29.060
But that can't really be true that they're limited by option.
02:16:32.060
Because if multiple women are with one guy, right?
02:16:37.060
Then wouldn't that create a surplus of men for the remaining women to choose from?
02:16:44.060
I was talking about the mentality in former Soviet Union within, you know, Slavic republics
02:16:52.060
The numbers did not match up starting from the World War II.
02:16:57.060
There is more women in some areas than men to begin with.
02:17:02.060
So like in some parts of Ukraine, there is like three, four guys to three, four women
02:17:13.060
So it starts that there is not enough males to begin with and so men, they have their
02:17:22.060
So women have no choice but to stick to the guy who is married to them no matter what
02:17:30.060
Let me try this a different way and make it super easy.
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You're on a desert island and there's 10 women and there's 10 men.
02:17:37.060
And five of the women pair off with one of the men.
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Which group has more options with the other group?
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Who said men would have more options with the other?
02:17:59.060
Everybody has equal options if they choose right for themselves and pair up together.
02:18:06.060
But you're saying there's 10 women and 10 men, right?
02:18:13.060
And five of the women pair off with one man, leaving nine men and five women.
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Which group has more options to choose from than the other group?
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Also, Andrew, if you put one man on an island with a few women, right?
02:18:39.060
With one man, we can literally create a village.
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If you put one woman, it's completely different.
02:18:56.060
Men come to actually release their, sorry, their sperm.
02:19:04.060
You're giving a lot of emphasis to this releasing of the sperm thing.
02:19:08.060
A lot of body language on the whole, releasing the sperm.
02:19:23.060
Because men, when men have sex, you forget about it.
02:19:28.060
When women have sex, they get attached to more.
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Everything completely different for a woman and for a man.
02:19:36.060
Andrew, what is your opinion about a monogamous relationship?
02:19:44.060
And the reason it should, and that should be something which is not only normalized
02:19:47.060
and pushed, is not just from the perspective of Christian ethics, but from a perspective
02:19:57.060
Than, no societies in fact do better than societies which have monogamous populations.
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Because what it does is it guarantees the underclass of men, who traditionally have never been
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They've never been able to set their seed free.
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They've never been able to do that traditionally.
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And so what you would consider the underclass tends to stay a lot more happy.
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And you end up with a lot more genetic diversity, which I think ultimately is pretty good for
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That ends up leading to all sorts of different problems, right?
02:20:37.060
But I've seen, you know, I grew up in a country when you have Muslims, Christians, and Jews.
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And you see the Muslims live in a certain way, the Christian live in a certain way, and
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And I've seen in all three that they have, some of them have happy family, happy marriage,
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Like in my religion, you're not allowed to marry with two, three women, right?
02:21:00.060
But I've seen people who live like that, and they're okay.
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I honestly feel like we maybe are, not that I'm on the no marriage, but I also am on the,
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Um, I don't think we did a great job of giving him reasons as to why he should.
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Um, the thing that I wanted to mention, Brian, sorry, I know you're, um, but that you just
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don't necessarily want to go into it with that mindset that no, I'm like absolutely against
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If you turn off, um, some people, it, you should go into it with a, yeah.
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Um, and again, if you find, I think you hopefully will find someone who changes your mind on that.
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But yeah, I hope you're not closed off to the idea of you finding someone who you're just
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like this person I want for the rest of my life.
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But then again, again, to my point, I don't think you necessarily need a contract.
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Our society creates so many people who are, uh, have avoidance intimacy.
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So like, uh, in your case, like you, you said that you were dating someone with a, um, long
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So, but you said that that was the reason why you guys fell apart.
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But did you guys have a connection with each other?
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You said that that was one of your best relationships, right?
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Um, I, I think it was just the, the phases that were going into our lives.
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He was going into military in Switzerland for about a year and a half.
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So I wouldn't have been able to see him for like over a year and a half.
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So there's multiple factors that played into it besides.
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If there, if there is true connection, uh, and you as a woman really saw the potential,
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but did you see the potential for this man as your husband?
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But I was also really young at the time as well.
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So, but that person was also in the same boat as me where he was like, I don't need a
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piece of paper to love you unconditionally to show you that you're, you know, my woman to treat.
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It's like both of you guys are avoiding that true connection and intimacy.
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What does this idea that keeps popping up of true connection?
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Cause you're saying that I didn't have a true connection.
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This person, but I know what type of connection that I had this person.
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Are you saying I should have married this person?
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No, I'm saying that couples who truly see the potential with each other, they should
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have a plan how they, uh, uh, how they move forward.
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If there is no plan, then you are living up to whatever the universe for.
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There's going to be, when do you put that plan into place?
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You're going to act like a perfectionist and everything because it's ultimately like,
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If someone, if I started dating someone and then a week after they were like,
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all right, so what about, or so when do you think around timeline?
02:24:36.060
When do you think you'd want to, I'd be like, bro.
02:24:42.060
First of all, you, if you want to pursue marriage.
02:24:45.060
I don't think you need authenticity or I don't think marriage brings out authenticity.
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I've been terrible with names, but it's easier for me to identify you by, by what you're
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So I was just saying just one at a time so that, so that we can get to the heart of
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So if you want to start green dress with your point so that she can respond.
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I think that regarding Andrew, a lot of, if you grew up in a family when they have family
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values and you see your parents marriage and they have a great marriage and they faithful
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But if you grew up in a home when the mother cheating or the father cheated and this is
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Or if you're a young man that been cheated in your, in your early twenties and women treated
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Of course, you're going to grow up to be scared from women and no one to be no don't
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Aren't we adults and aren't we supposed to be responsible for our own choices?
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I tell you why not because a lot of the people.
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They not even getting mature until they're 50 or 60 because they carry trauma.
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A lot of people like this girl that we're sitting here.
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She talked about her sexual abuse in her, in her being 19.
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She still carry that trauma and activate her life from that trauma.
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So a man that been hurt when he was young or saw his parents get divorced or whatever
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it is, they carry and activate their life and go through their life from that trauma.
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But if you understand that there is trauma that needs to be addressed and that's what
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it takes to become an adult, to address it, to work through that and make the choices
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Because if we would be the product of what was only happening in our past and dragging
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our past with us, then we would not be progressing in anything.
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Did you grow up with or in a marriage, in a married household?
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I was, my father, he died when I was one years old.
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I do know what it is to be that word that we're not supposed to discuss.
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I do know that in my personal experience, but the whole thing is to understand the trauma
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and to understand how to address it, how to, in most of the cases, for us as women who
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had a traumatic past like that, it's for us to understand what is happening.
02:27:54.060
And how we are able, because most of the, most of the, uh, workers.
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Most people don't have a healthy inner conversation.
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They don't even figure out themselves by the time they're 50 or 40 or 60.
02:28:25.060
So how are they going to come and treat the other person normally when they didn't figure
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Well, they can address to the therapist or people who actually know.
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But they don't know that they're in that position.
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If your personal life is not to your standards, it should be a signal that something is wrong,
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A lot of people, listen, a lot of people have a really twisted inner conversation.
02:28:53.060
Like this girl that she looks normal and when you talk to her-
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I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
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You keep going like this and I'm like, wait, what?
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She's got her lip is like, she's got a second upper lip with all that fucking bullshit
02:29:10.060
Furthermore, both of them, I'm sure the viewers have already come to this conclusion.
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They just walked off the set without any justification or for any reason whatsoever.
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Now, in the messages, she was saying that, truthfully, I mean, you can tell by their
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attitude, they just, I don't know, oh, I don't want to be here, but we said we were
02:29:28.060
going to be here, so we're here because whatever.
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She's saying, and this is the post-talk justification for why they left because they sent me a DM.
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She said, wasn't really comfortable after I talked about my essay to defend myself.
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Even though we moved on from the conversation completely.
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But the thing is, why would you bring it up if it's not something you want to talk about?
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Because sometimes when people are put on the spot, they say things that they didn't expect
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themselves to say, and there's just that pressure on them.
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She wanted to let it out, and she was just waiting for the opportunity and the moment.
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Unfortunately, she was in full control of what she could say and not say.
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We were told initially to experience and share specifically what we were comfortable with sharing.
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So yes, although it may have made her uncomfortable, and I completely understand, I did not see her.
02:30:34.060
I think that we just didn't have a deep emotional connection.
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Andrew, I totally agree with you when you said about the emotional connection.
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And she's destroyed and damaged from the inside anyway.
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Instead of bashing her like this, we could at least give her a lesson in this podcast
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She's got a great lesson on how to not be an infant.
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I'm not going to infantilize her because of her age.
02:31:14.060
Instead, I'm going to treat her like the adult which she can vote as.
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Somebody that abused their body and soul and raped themselves over and over again.
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Multiple times coming from you, we told you before the show, avoid these topics.
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But I'm getting fucking upset because I've told you multiple times.
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I think the conversation of marriage has already died down.
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It's now conversed onto the Aussie girl and why she left.
02:32:05.060
Now, can we move forward with anybody else's discussions on what they're against or what
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they're curious about, which Brian initially asked.
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It was simply, what do you have against whatever I've said?
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You were told not to lean out of the frame, and you leaned out of the frame.
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Bro, and I'll tell you, look, we'll move it on.
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I'll tell you precisely why we don't want to say those words.
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This girl walked off the show for precisely that reason.
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It's not a subject we're inclined to talk about.
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That's why we told you very specifically before the show.
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And they, honestly, I don't believe anything that girl says at all.
02:33:17.060
We had her on the show for eight hours two days ago.
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She's the same person she was literally two days ago.
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What about some of the stuff that we, like, sent in?
02:33:41.060
I absolutely disagree that there should be forgiving cheating of the partner in the marriage.
02:33:54.060
Well, you mentioned that women, the way men operate and it is okay for the woman to accept that he is cheating.
02:34:02.060
I don't think she should accept, no, that's not what I said.
02:34:05.060
I said, when a man cheat, it's not like a woman when she's cheating.
02:34:09.060
And if your men cheat on you, not every day, not excessively, but if your men cheated on you one time when he had to travel or something,
02:34:15.060
you don't break marriage, kids, history, everything just for him cheating one time.
02:34:20.060
I, if you're under, I mean, if you guys are, yeah, exclusive and that's the, that has always been the thing and you go out on a work trip and you literally can't keep it in your pants or like whatever.
02:34:36.060
But when you, let's say you're 45 and you already lived with a man for 10, 20 years and you have kids with him and you break up with him for one cheating, you're going to want to get screwed, not him.
02:34:46.060
You're the one that you don't have value in the market. You already have history.
02:34:50.060
You're not going to go out to the market with two, three kids alone just because he cheated on you, you break your whole life.
02:34:54.060
In the relationship, there should be 100% commitment to each other.
02:34:57.060
And that goes for a body, soul, for everything.
02:34:59.060
If you get to that point where you're 45 years old and you want to talk about an open marriage, then by all means.
02:35:04.060
I don't believe in open marriage. I think it's, it's devilish.
02:35:08.060
So you think it's more devilish than a man going off?
02:35:13.060
I'll explain to you, Andrew. If you give me the time, I will explain.
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Not you. No, I understand your position, right?
02:35:22.060
I'm sorry. I'm really sorry. I just, can you tell me your name again?
02:35:27.060
Yeah, you. Yeah. You got to speak in the mic or I can't hear.
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She's saying, look, let's say that this guy, you know, he's, he's, he's out on the road.
02:35:52.060
You're, you're in some tooth and nails kind of verbal brawl.
02:35:55.060
And, you know, he meets some chick at the bar and he sleeps with her and he instantly regrets
02:36:02.060
And he tells you, you know, look, I'm sorry I made this mistake.
02:36:07.060
You're saying you can't work through that, that that's impossible to work through.
02:36:13.060
I know for you, but you're, you, you said prescriptively, you disagree that that should
02:36:22.060
I mean, I would be okay with that, uh, 20 something years ago before, um, I got here
02:36:27.060
and I saw that there is actually a different way of building the relationship and through
02:36:34.060
my husband, he introduced me to, uh, uh, to Jesus Christ.
02:36:38.060
So based on their religion, of course, and the standards.
02:36:44.060
I mean, the, uh, the cheating is just not, it's one partner.
02:36:48.060
No, the church would not recommend that the church would recommend that you stay together
02:36:53.060
with your family and did everything you could to work through on the marriage.
02:36:59.060
The church also recommends to stay loyal to your partner on the, for both sides.
02:37:09.060
Cheating is immoral from the Christian worldview.
02:37:17.060
However, there's nothing unchristian at all about working through that situation with
02:37:24.060
In fact, most churches would recommend you do so for the sake of keeping your family together.
02:37:29.060
But you see, that's where we come starting from the root.
02:37:32.060
It would not even cross our mind to cheat on each other, to begin with, because we know
02:37:47.060
So you believe that the demonic exists, correct?
02:37:50.060
And do you believe that the demonic has influence over people at certain times, especially when
02:37:55.060
they're vulnerable, or when they're going through something that's very hard, and they
02:37:58.060
could be influenced to do things they would not ordinarily do?
02:38:01.060
Andrew, it would be my job as a wife to know that my husband needs some kind of support,
02:38:09.060
whether it is emotional or physical or whatever.
02:38:12.060
And the true core of the relationship in my mind is for my husband to come to me and open
02:38:20.060
up his soul, become vulnerable, feeling comfortable, become vulnerable with me to share with me what
02:38:28.060
So we would be able to work on it to fix it, to avoid any type of cheating.
02:38:40.060
If you are super committed to your man, like you are.
02:38:57.060
I think that if you are going into it with, this is the person that I want to spend the
02:39:03.060
rest of my life with, this is the person that I want to be loyal to, then you will never
02:39:07.060
put yourself in a position where there is the potential to cheat.
02:39:11.060
I think we are all, again, capable of doing so.
02:39:23.060
The dispute is not that you can't mitigate these things.
02:39:26.060
The dispute is not that you shouldn't do these things.
02:39:33.060
Can you tell me what the dispute is here actually?
02:39:36.060
I would not be even considering the alternative.
02:39:44.060
So working it out right after a man has cheated on you.
02:39:49.060
So when we're talking about things that you can do so that that never happens, that really
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doesn't have anything to do with the actual dispute here, which is can a marriage be worked
02:40:03.060
And then on, I just wanted to mention that about the cheating, but then to go on that,
02:40:11.060
If the, if for some woman in my case, the trust would be completely broken.
02:40:16.060
And I don't, I don't think I could ever do that.
02:40:20.060
Um, but I am with no kids with, you know, so I would understand.
02:40:27.060
I would understand if a woman who had kids chose to maybe go to marriage counseling, see
02:40:39.060
I think there isn't just a, no, I would never, but you can't, you can't just kind of speak
02:40:45.060
I know I would never go back to my person if they cheated on me.
02:40:51.060
Look, I don't think that there's a problem with saying I have a zero tolerance threshold
02:41:02.060
I'm just saying that I would not take this kind of broad brush from a Christian angle
02:41:07.060
and say that if you're in a Christian marriage, that something like this can't be worked through
02:41:11.060
because clearly this does happen and people do work through it.
02:41:19.060
But there, there has to be a transformation in person.
02:41:21.060
That's what I'm saying is that if the preference is breaking up the entire family, right?
02:41:24.060
Not just losing your faith, everything in between that can come with the outcome of
02:41:28.060
divorce, maybe it could be preferable to try to work these things out first.
02:41:32.060
In the small percentages, it is possible to fix.
02:41:36.060
But it takes really a superb woman to, uh, develop, to gain that trust, uh, factor towards
02:41:44.060
Because that normally creates insecurities in a woman that she will be always questioning
02:41:51.060
Is he going to see some pretty girls out there?
02:41:54.060
He's, I mean, it is just, uh, uh, it's going to be just killing the woman on the inside.
02:41:59.060
It takes very, very superb woman to get the trust built inside of her, uh, to trust her,
02:42:10.060
But women in general are over emotional from every little thing.
02:42:15.060
It's not like a man that he's managed his feelings different.
02:42:18.060
You understand women, a man can look at a woman and she come home with him and she
02:42:26.060
Andrew, should we on the, just going back to the marriage thing, I don't know if you'd
02:42:32.060
Should we get James Sexton to do a call in right now?
02:42:36.060
I don't know if, I don't know if that could be arranged, but like a, you want me to ask
02:42:44.060
Cause a couple of people in the chat and I got some messages.
02:42:46.060
People were like, yo, you should have a James Sexton coming on this.
02:42:54.060
Let me read some chats while, uh, we're doing all that.
02:42:57.060
We have, uh, Maddie, I'm going to have you read chats.
02:43:00.060
What do you personally bring to a relationship as a woman?
02:43:04.060
And in your opinion, what responsibilities should women typically have in a relationship?
02:43:12.060
We can only do one question per, per chat, but solo Dino.
02:43:16.060
Uh, so we'll do, what do you personally bring to relationship?
02:43:29.060
I like to open myself up to the partners that I have.
02:43:33.060
Um, I don't think I'm ready for a relationship.
02:43:37.060
So, yeah, I'm, I don't know how I would honestly answer that right now.
02:43:57.060
Wait, I'm pretty sure you said you were like, you wanted some type of people around you,
02:44:04.060
So that you're looking for something special and you couldn't find it because it is either
02:44:10.060
Maybe I can't find it because I'm not ready for it.
02:44:16.060
If you were in a relationship, what would you bring?
02:44:19.060
If I was in a relationship, I would bring stability just because I'm very much like.
02:44:27.060
You said that you can only date men for two weeks.
02:44:29.060
I, if I choose, I never said date a guy for two weeks.
02:44:33.060
Fun fact, I'm only, I never choose to go in with that guy.
02:44:40.060
And if I vibe with that person, then I vibe with that person and I'll let them know.
02:44:45.060
Um, it's not as like literal as what I'm saying, but I feel like it's very much a one
02:44:53.060
and done situation in the places and the scenes that I seem to be in right now.
02:44:57.060
Um, I don't think that I'm ready for something just because I don't know, I guess.
02:45:02.060
Well, how, I mean, if you, if you bring stability, but you're not going into a relationship
02:45:07.060
with the goal of being stable, AKA like longterm or right.
02:45:14.060
I'm a very, if I see something with someone longterm, I'm going to go all for it.
02:45:25.060
And I'm self aware that when I give, I give way too much.
02:45:28.060
And I don't think that I'm ready for that right now.
02:45:30.060
I think that I'm 21 years old and I'm finding myself and that's completely fine to.
02:45:39.060
Um, figuring out what hobbies I have, what interests I have.
02:45:44.060
I think the subtext of what she's trying to say, she doesn't even know.
02:45:48.060
But the subtext, subtext of what you saying, I think you just don't know it because you're
02:45:53.060
too young, but I think you don't even know who you are yet.
02:46:02.060
Your inner conversation in this age versus my age.
02:46:09.060
She would do things out of impulse, out of feelings versus of her logic mind.
02:46:16.060
Like there's some guarantee that that's going to change with age.
02:46:24.060
I hear this a lot from women where they will say, well, you know, um, she's only 21,
02:46:28.060
but a lot of times her nature doesn't change by the time they're 42, right?
02:46:34.060
And a lot of times, well, they don't get more logical.
02:46:36.060
They never do that whole find yourself thing, right?
02:46:42.060
So I think if you're able to practice a true interpersonal relationship with yourself and converse with yourself,
02:46:48.060
either through therapy or entirely one-to-one with yourself.
02:46:52.060
That is when you can develop yourself and mature yourself and from there become a greater version of yourself or finding yourself.
02:47:03.060
Well, more so just the journey of intentionally working on yourself.
02:47:09.060
But Andrew, the journey's for everybody, not just for women.
02:47:11.060
Can you explain to me why every woman on planet Earth has a journey for everything?
02:47:30.060
But what Brian's asking here is he's saying, when you're talking about the idea of I have
02:47:47.060
And when I get into a relationship with someone, like I said, I over-give and I don't want to
02:47:52.060
do that because in the past I found myself in relationships where I have completely lost myself.
02:47:59.060
How to stay true to yourself and not being taken advantage of.
02:48:16.060
But save your body for the special one, but keep giving.
02:48:25.060
She didn't go through enough things in her life.
02:48:27.060
And even if she did, she didn't know how to deal with them because she didn't have to
02:48:33.060
You only live life forward and you understand them backwards.
02:48:36.060
So whatever you do now, it's going to affect your future.
02:48:47.060
I think we were like, what do I bring to a relationship?
02:49:01.060
I would say I bring like communication and understanding.
02:49:04.060
Like I want to put myself in the person's shoes when we're having an argument and respect
02:49:13.060
Um, I feel like I'd like to definitely take care of my man.
02:49:17.060
I feel like I bring in a drink kind of aspect to it, but then I also try to look for someone
02:49:23.060
who will kind of inspire me to be a better person.
02:49:27.060
So I hope that you want like an inspirational partner.
02:49:37.060
This is all very different from the word she used, which is inspiration.
02:49:44.060
Inspired as in, damn, this person really has all their ducks lined up in a row.
02:49:58.060
So what would the, I mean, how would a guy have all his ducks in a row?
02:50:21.060
But yeah, just someone who will inspire me to just be a little better.
02:50:30.060
And again, I'd hope that I, that they saw things in me that also inspired me.
02:50:34.060
So you said you'd want a guy who like, he's really heavy into the gym and that that would
02:50:39.060
No, it was just like one of the, you know, things that I might be inspired by.
02:50:43.060
Dang, this person really takes care of their body like, like you do.
02:50:52.060
Uh, oh, I, I go to the gym a few times, but like eating like really healthy all the time.
02:50:57.060
It might then inspire me to take more of a, you know, again, very.
02:51:04.060
With someone, someone that has good habits that I might be inspired to also pick up.
02:51:10.060
I don't know if I necessarily bring something different or special or better than any other
02:51:17.060
The only thing I want, if I have a relationship, it's to find my king.
02:51:20.060
So I would love him and do everything that I can to make him happy.
02:51:24.060
And I naturally going to fall into the happiness because it makes me happy to make my man happy.
02:51:39.060
I just want to have my king, you know, every, I mean, I dated, uh, not a lot of men in my
02:51:46.060
I was in relationship for 12 years and my husband was my king.
02:51:49.060
Unfortunately, I didn't want to get divorced, but it happened.
02:51:58.060
Um, I bring support to whatever his dreams are.
02:52:03.060
Um, whatever he needs to help make them happen.
02:52:10.060
Uh, I definitely try to be a better wife constantly and constantly grow, uh, on the way of bringing
02:52:24.060
And actually it is, I mean, it's constant growth, of course.
02:52:28.060
Um, but that's something I am actually teaching my female clients who I'm working with as
02:52:35.060
It is important to know how to bring peace in man's life.
02:52:38.060
And it does require quite a bit of skills and understanding and love in, you know.
02:53:04.060
So let me get into some of my other pre-show notes.
02:53:09.060
So you were on our very first episode two years ago.
02:53:12.060
Uh, and you told us your story of my first boyfriend ever.
02:53:25.060
I bring a sense of vibrations and cosmic alignment in our journey together, inspired
02:53:44.060
And like the interpersonal connection and dynamics, bro.
02:53:50.060
We got to go on our journey of self-discovery, which usually involves tons of sexually promiscuous
02:54:03.060
I already know the reasons, but could Andrew please explain to the panel why most women
02:54:09.060
can't engage in hypotheticals without outliners or feelings?
02:54:16.060
Before we get to that, Andrew, uh, going back to the previous chat on when I used to
02:54:23.060
be on dating apps, a lot of women would be like, take me on an adventure.
02:54:37.060
They put in their prompts on their dating app, Tinder, Bumble, Hinge.
02:54:41.060
And I'm thinking to myself, I'm like, the craziest adventure you've ever been on
02:54:46.060
is in the backseat of a guy's Mazda Miata behind a 7-Eleven.
02:54:51.060
Like that's the, that's your, that's your adventure.
02:55:00.060
Are you going to replicate that adventure or would you replicate that adventure?
02:55:07.060
Would you do that all over then again for that woman from all those girls on dating apps?
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It's not, it's not, it's not my preferred venue.
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I feel like that's a very immature thing to do.
02:55:32.060
Andrew, do you, do you want to explain this whole hypothetical one?
02:55:37.060
Uh, well, not every woman has trouble, uh, engaging in hypotheticals.
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And it's not like sociologists who are mostly women are ever going to do studies about it
02:55:52.060
But it seems to me that what I see is that women will take what you say in a hypothetical
02:56:07.060
Well, what the fuck does that have to do with the fact that most women do?
02:56:13.060
And many of you, when I said that actually probably thought, well, but I don't care about
02:56:19.060
That's why women have trouble, uh, engaging in hypotheticals.
02:56:28.060
Me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me.
02:56:33.060
We're talking in a general sense about something that could potentially be true, but women have
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trouble inserting themselves outside of a potential.
02:56:42.060
So, so essentially everything has to exist inside of the space of me and nothing can exist inside
02:56:53.060
So everything that's potential has to include you.
02:57:07.060
I'm a single parent and dating feels so complicated.
02:57:09.060
How can I find someone who will be kind and caring towards me and my son?
02:57:14.060
Well, you might have success dating another single parent.
02:57:22.060
I would, I would not recommend you to go with a woman that doesn't have kids because
02:57:26.060
she simply won't understand what you're going through and she won't have compassion
02:57:30.060
for your kid like a woman that already have a kid or two.
02:57:34.060
I would recommend going out in public with your son actually to like places that you
02:57:39.060
enjoy, whether it be the playground, his favorite playground, whether it be the beach, like hobbies
02:57:44.060
that you genuinely enjoy because you'll find the right person there who enjoys the same
02:57:53.060
Um, so going back to your story, uh, if you want to tell it.
02:58:00.060
So I was in a relationship with a guy who I no longer talk to and we were dating.
02:58:07.060
I don't consider it like really dating because we were young, but it was for three years.
02:58:13.060
I don't think I've really ever been in love, but I just say that.
02:58:16.060
And, um, after we were together for three years, like huge emotional thing.
02:58:23.060
Like I was young, I thought he was my best friend, whatever.
02:58:26.060
And then the minute that he got what most men want, he left me the week after.
02:58:36.060
What, what, what do, what have all men really want?
02:58:42.060
How long you, how long you gave him sex for after how long you gave him sex?
02:59:05.060
You know, sometimes that stuff just happens, you know?
02:59:15.060
Life is not perfect and people just do stuff and you just have to sometimes be in pain
02:59:28.060
That's why it's better not to have sex early, you know?
02:59:48.060
You were dating him for three years if I recall correctly.
02:59:52.060
He went on the long journey, the long arduous journey to finally get in your pants.
02:59:57.060
And then when he finally did, he completed his quest, right?
03:00:02.060
And he took out, he got out of the king's castle.
03:00:05.060
He slayed the dragon and he had the treasure, the booty, right?
03:00:19.060
He took the most valuable type of booty possible, right?
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So he got, so he got the treasure and so it was really about his journey, right?
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He was, you know, he was self-actualizing out here.
03:00:47.060
But did you learn from that experience what not to do next time?
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I mean, I've learned a lot of things since then.
03:01:02.060
I can't just say one thing that I've learned, but.
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The lesson is not to have sex at all until you're in a really committed relationship.
03:01:34.060
As a child who had just lost the most valuable booty, he left me.
03:01:39.060
I thought you said after a week that you met with me.
03:02:10.060
That's from, that's from Pirates of the Caribbean.
03:02:26.520
Ba-da-dun-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
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He took the V card, then he dumped her, then he ran out of there with his ass.
03:02:46.980
Now, have you taught, like, so okay, he broke up with you.
03:02:49.620
Did he, like, as far as the breakup goes, was it like a ghost or was there a sit down?
03:02:56.220
We definitely, like, I tried to talk to him after the fact and, like, went over to his
03:03:01.220
house, and, like, he had his, like, best friend there, and it was, like, that middle school
03:03:05.080
or high school drama, and, you know, it was, like, yeah, I don't think we're going to get
03:03:09.640
back together, but, like, thanks for coming by.
03:03:22.960
But, you know, behind every action, there is always a reason.
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So, to understand the root where this is actually coming from.
03:03:43.960
Yeah, there was some self-actualization, all right.
03:03:50.620
I think you guys are being women in this sense where you're over-analyzing it.
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I'm not sure that there's any over-analyzation at all.
03:04:03.160
I think that what you're experiencing is self-deconstructualization instead of self-actualization.
03:04:15.980
But you guys were dating for three years, so, like, serious relationship.
03:04:21.800
I don't think we were old enough to be serious.
03:04:23.760
No, but how often would you guys see each other and hang out?
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Like, a player isn't waiting three years for pussy.
03:04:58.680
He wasn't a player, but then maybe I gave him the confidence.
03:05:03.320
Maybe I gave him the confidence to literally go out and...
03:05:14.880
What if he got really scared that he maybe hurt you?
03:05:23.240
Maths, you know, that she was describing, the messy...
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That's why we are giving the childbirth, not you guys.
03:06:09.920
Well, I mean, I guess it did hurt, because it's your first time.
03:06:18.240
You went over to have the breakup conversation.
03:06:21.800
What was the content of the breakup conversation?
03:06:25.420
Probably just, like, a lot of tears and, like, did this happen?
03:06:31.940
Just, like, a lot of things that I feel like were just brushed under the rug or something.
03:06:35.500
Like, in the past, like, I feel like when you break up with someone, like, you sort
03:06:41.940
It was years that we were together, so it makes sense.
03:07:33.380
Maybe he announced it that he's going to take care of Virginia.
03:07:46.660
So, why did you consent to have sex when people are waiting outside?
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Clearly, that says something about my style, honey.
03:07:59.860
I'm pretty certain that the reason of a breakup was not just because he got what he was working for for three years.
03:08:10.980
Maybe he was already thinking about it, and he was like, oh, at least before I break up with her, I should try to...
03:08:23.380
Yeah, so all of this stuff that was piling up...
03:08:25.300
Well, I mean, the poor guy had invested three years, right?
03:08:28.680
He's like, I'm not leaving without getting the booty.
03:08:45.760
That's a lot of effort for one minute of pussy.
03:09:01.640
I remember him, like, not being able to, like, put it on correctly or, like, had it inside out or, like, something.
03:09:08.320
No, it took, like, longer than the sex to get the condom on.
03:09:30.200
Hey, hey, hey, it's a race, and he finished first.
03:09:41.920
Three years of work for one minute of virgin condom sex.
03:10:08.260
But how is he supposed to know the difference of the feeling?
03:10:38.100
There was the initial breakup conversation, but did it ever...
03:10:47.320
Did you ever get closure from this, or not really?
03:11:05.020
I guess I sort of just gave him the benefit of the doubt, because he was just, like, a
03:11:10.160
Like, I can't force him to speak about stuff that he doesn't want to talk about at the end
03:11:14.040
Do you feel that you maybe emasculated him in some way?
03:11:19.300
Well, we made it to a therapy session of the...
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Would it have been worse if you guys had only been dating for, like, two weeks, and then
03:12:04.540
Or is it worse that it was, like, a three-year?
03:12:07.480
I think it's worse that it was a three-year as a woman, because you get attached very easily.
03:12:14.360
And it's, like, two weeks of being attached is not at all near the same as being attached
03:12:27.800
So, earlier in the conversation, going back to you, you had mentioned...
03:12:32.680
So, you're studying poverty, inequality, social justice.
03:12:51.240
So, I don't necessarily think it was just the, I guess, the mansplaining.
03:13:03.300
A majority of the students that are enrolled in the program are men.
03:13:08.780
So, when we went into these clubs, we were just...
03:13:16.080
Um, and then some of the mansplaining, I guess, came from, I guess, the finance people, where
03:13:24.880
they kind of would talk to us like we didn't have a clue as to what was going on, so...
03:13:35.620
It was just like, again, the way that they, I don't know, might have...
03:13:43.920
It was just, I mean, economics is closely related to finance, so they were, I don't know.
03:13:50.580
But maybe they were like, had a better grasp on, I don't know, that you didn't provide enough.
03:13:58.180
We just felt as though we weren't in a space where we were feeling as though we were necessarily
03:14:08.960
Uh, I think because a majority, uh, were men, we just felt like we were looked down upon
03:14:19.720
You felt like you were looked down upon because you were women.
03:14:22.440
So what, I mean, can you articulate something that actually occurred that would lead you to
03:14:31.120
Um, honestly, no, I can't, I can't say honestly.
03:14:37.800
No, uh, I want to go back to the, it was wanting to just be in a collaborative space with other
03:14:46.440
Um, the department here at UCSB makes it very much, um, you want the person next to you
03:14:54.360
failing so that they don't mess up the class curve.
03:14:56.740
So it was just a lot of, I don't know, I guess competition.
03:15:00.300
And there wasn't really a space in which we felt, um, as though, uh, we are wanting
03:15:07.440
to, or I don't know, there's no really like, I want you to thrive as well.
03:15:12.160
I don't want you to do well on this exam or because you might mess up the curve.
03:15:16.260
It was just, it was just a lot of competitiveness.
03:15:20.780
Um, when it was in a space with women, it was more so of a collaborative environment,
03:15:31.600
whereas when we were with them, we felt like we couldn't really collaborate.
03:15:36.180
It wasn't necessarily the mansplaining, honestly.
03:15:40.320
It wasn't necessarily the mansplaining so much as they weren't really talking to us at
03:15:47.200
That's like, well, but so had they been in this, it was a club, right?
03:15:52.320
You said it was a group or a club, a school club.
03:15:56.980
Had they been in, had you, were you guys new to the club?
03:16:03.820
So they had already been in this club had been pre-existing.
03:16:09.760
Well, were you there at the date of the formation of the club?
03:16:15.420
And was the club, were there, was it pre-dominated by men?
03:16:20.840
And they had, how long had the club been going on?
03:16:28.780
So how many times did you go to the club meetings?
03:16:51.260
At least, so there's, there's like other, like events as well.
03:16:52.380
And you did, did you start going like at the beginning of the year or like midway into the semester?
03:17:00.040
But the people already knew each other in the club.
03:17:05.520
But you felt you were excluded, if I understand correctly.
03:17:14.480
It was just, I co-founded it, so I didn't start it myself.
03:17:19.540
There was an original club that was open to both men and women.
03:17:37.460
I've been watching this podcast for months and many times seen women on the panel do it.
03:17:42.500
I think what she means is it not just a man thing.
03:17:49.880
Um, I, I honestly also think that it was just the, the club itself was, again, accounting
03:17:57.320
and finance, and there's an accounting and economics major, and those were most of the
03:18:15.040
It was just more necessarily, um, again, a different discipline.
03:18:21.120
Uh, but you said you felt as if you were excluded because, or like not involved as much.
03:18:26.940
Because I couldn't, I couldn't necessarily be because that wasn't my discipline.
03:18:31.720
Oh, but you made it seem, but you went on to, uh, co-found a women in business club for
03:18:40.920
It sounds to me like you're saying that the, you felt like they were not giving you enough,
03:18:47.700
uh, attention or involvement in the club because you were women.
03:19:00.340
So a majority of the people in the club though, as well, were men.
03:19:07.900
But so, I mean, could it just be that you were newcomers to the club and that's why you
03:19:15.700
weren't as involved as like, why, how do you come to the conclusion that it was because
03:19:21.400
you were women and not because you were just newcomers?
03:19:25.340
I don't want to say that it was because I was a woman.
03:19:36.140
Um, if I, if, if that was what it sounded like I was getting, you walked back the mansplaining
03:19:41.980
claim, but then you also said that, well, I, I don't want to put words in your mouth.
03:19:47.180
So what I, again, wanted to say, or what I've mentioned before, it was a different discipline.
03:19:56.280
So we felt as though we couldn't really, not necessarily interact with them, but it was
03:20:03.060
We wanted to interact with other women as well.
03:20:05.460
We wanted to meet other women as well who had maybe similar interests, um, that weren't
03:20:10.380
geared so much towards finance and only finance.
03:20:14.300
And then did this, um, mostly male club continue to exist after you started your club?
03:20:29.300
So we, we have, yeah, we have things with them as well, kind of to do some of that mixing
03:20:36.200
And would you have been upset at all if they had had a men's only space that was just for
03:20:50.180
Oh, I mean, you said you used the wrong word or something.
03:20:53.000
So you're walking back the, I guess the mansplaining accusation or whatever.
03:20:57.960
Um, it was, it was more so just, again, wasn't really a collaborative space with women.
03:21:06.200
And when you're in a field, I don't know, dominated particularly by men, um, we wanted to meet other
03:21:12.580
girls, other girlies that were, that had similar interests to us in the economic department,
03:21:17.240
but not only in the economic department, um, wanted to bring in other girls as well from
03:21:23.400
And the TMP program, um, again, it was just very much wanting a collaborative area, um,
03:21:29.000
where we could bring different fields and not just accounting and finance, um, get a
03:21:42.000
Uh, I am also a little bit curious about the whole poverty, inequality, social justice
03:21:46.740
Um, is that, uh, does that involve like any, like actually just going around the table,
03:22:09.980
Um, like what would your exact definition be of that then?
03:22:14.140
Well, yeah, people do have different definitions.
03:22:16.380
Yeah, because there's, yeah, or, because I definitely would be on the partial side with
03:22:22.740
And I think it was also mentioned, um, maybe by you and how women have kind of grown up.
03:22:28.280
Because there's the radical and then there's the different waves and all these things.
03:22:32.340
Well, let me, I just wonder, um, if you could just briefly kind of explain when you're talking
03:22:39.240
about, because I hear this a lot, um, I don't like this wave versus this wave.
03:22:44.500
What is it about fourth wave feminist or third wave feminism you don't like, but that you,
03:23:02.420
Um, so, uh, particularly, I don't know, um, more recently with issues concerning LGBTQ
03:23:11.020
rights, there's just some things that I don't necessarily agree with as far as, um, them being
03:23:18.420
able to participate, um, uh, in sports with us and compete against us, um, which I think
03:23:44.740
If you believe in all of the things about feminism that, that you like, except this one thing,
03:23:49.440
which is that you believe that, uh, the T's are going into sports, right?
03:23:56.080
Then that would be considered trans exclusionary radical feminism or turf for short.
03:24:05.400
I think, I, like, before is more of, uh, of, again, wanting the ability to vote, wanting
03:24:13.560
to, the ability to, I mean, for a really long time, women couldn't work in certain industries
03:24:20.440
Yeah, but I don't understand what the problem is.
03:24:22.140
If you want the right for women to vote and then women vote so that men can go into women's
03:24:32.380
If, so if women are demanding the right to vote and they get it and then they vote so
03:24:37.200
that men can go into women's sports, what's your objection to that?
03:24:40.340
I mean, I think we've now voted as well that men can't.
03:24:45.320
Yeah, but if they did vote that men can, what would be your objection to that?
03:24:54.280
So then, so then as long as women who are, thus far, they have not voted against that,
03:25:04.840
They vote for it far more than men do, in fact, to allow that particular group to come
03:25:12.500
So, but isn't that really kind of the fault of women then?
03:25:16.300
Isn't that women who got the right to vote then voting to allow this to happen?
03:25:20.120
It seems like you're kind of your own worst enemy there.
03:25:22.080
I, yeah, I mean, give a, yeah, give a point there.
03:25:33.920
I mean, but again, it's also men coming into spaces and wanting to compete with women as well.
03:25:46.520
It's like, imagine saying, yeah, I want the right to vote.
03:25:52.200
And then you vote to allow men in sports and you go, I don't want men in sports.
03:26:00.400
I'm just saying that if you vote that the collective of women can vote and that's what
03:26:05.000
Isn't that kind of just what the doctor ordered?
03:26:09.320
Yeah, but then the counter to that would then again be what?
03:26:19.400
I mean, that might be a conclusion that I would come to if women suddenly demanded the
03:26:26.840
right to vote and then voted that men could go in their sports and hated the fact that men
03:26:31.280
Of course, it seemed like women are making the greatest decisions when it comes to voting.
03:26:35.500
We haven't voted that women can and can't, have we?
03:26:48.860
They mostly vote that men can engage in their sports teams, yeah.
03:26:52.200
They mostly, and by the way, most of the pro pride stuff and all that is mostly women.
03:27:18.160
Therefore, that is something that women have voted for.
03:27:21.420
It's against women going and pretend to be a woman.
03:27:27.640
As a woman, this type of feminism, it's not feminism.
03:27:34.420
It's an insult to me as a woman that I have to go through, period, through babies, through my whole life as a struggle as a woman, that a guy would come and pretend to be a woman.
03:27:49.080
So, again, maybe not the right to vote, if you want to turn it into that, but the ability to work, the ability to go into different industries, that has definitely changed over the course of some years.
03:28:03.220
So backing up, I just want to ask you just a couple more questions.
03:28:07.720
Do you think that women vote more on the Republican or Democrat side?
03:28:18.240
And do you think that Republicans or Democrats pass policies more often that protect women's sports?
03:28:28.580
And so, essentially, we have established, then, that women are voting in the party that does not protect women's sports, right?
03:28:38.220
So it seems that, by your logic, women are all the worst in any here, right?
03:28:51.600
When I say you in this case, I'm just saying most women, right?
03:28:55.600
So if the majority of women are voting Democrat, and they are, right?
03:29:01.600
It's not a huge majority, but it's enough of a majority.
03:29:05.100
It seems like they're the architect of their kind of own destruction here, right?
03:29:08.760
So we can expect you to vote Republican this time around, right?
03:29:15.980
I identify as an independent, but that is, like, my vote kind of being thrown in the trash.
03:29:32.720
He's one of the worst when it comes to the women's in sports thing.
03:29:40.680
So you're going to have to vote Republican this time, right?
03:29:49.840
Yeah, you're an independent, but you have to vote Republican this time.
03:29:52.300
Otherwise, you're just throwing your vote away, right?
03:29:53.820
So we can expect a vote from you for Donald J. Trump this time around to protect your sports
03:30:22.340
Well, obviously, no, he can't be Democrat, because he's, Biden's the incumbent.
03:30:27.880
Regarding this topic, when I get to this country at first, and, you know, I realized
03:30:34.220
what feminists and all that, like, the differences, I was like, what's going on with women?
03:30:46.900
Yeah, and honestly, thinking back to, like, the first wave of feminism, too, Susan B.
03:30:50.700
Anthony, huge people that we, like, study and praise, it wasn't like they were rights for
03:31:03.460
Well, they were also horrific antinatalists and scumbags of all kinds, especially Susan
03:31:09.140
Anthony, very much anti-man, quote after quote of her, and this, by the way, is because she
03:31:19.280
And oftentimes, this builds resentment in women, and many of the early feminists were...
03:31:25.820
Like, I can show you posters of some of the early old men.
03:31:28.480
Yeah, no, on the opposite side, though, there's plenty men, what's the, what's the term for
03:31:34.820
Like, involuntary celibacy, it, no one knows the term?
03:31:42.500
So, yeah, we, there's definitely plenty incels as well that...
03:31:48.160
Wait, actually, so are you, just so I understand, and I've got a couple questions on this.
03:31:52.660
Um, so are you saying that incels are kind of like the opposite of feminists?
03:31:59.240
No, or I, he just mentioned Susan B. Anthony was butt-ugly, so I was, and that, that's kind
03:32:07.280
I said she was, and I'll quote myself here, hideous.
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There's a step above ugly, and then there's a step above that, and the step above that is
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So, I don't, I stepped away for a moment, but we were just asking if, if you're a feminist,
03:32:42.060
So, there's feminists that think what they're fighting for is equality, and then you have the
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feminists that are in favor, are women's advocacy, and then you have, like, one step above, which
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Maybe it's, well, it's the mainstream feminism, but you have conspiracy theory, and then also,
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But, so, then you're not in favor of equality, then.
03:33:17.200
Well, so, advocacy, so, feminism, and here's my position on feminism, being the most charitable,
03:33:22.880
it's, it's a woman's advocacy movement, which is fine, you can advocate for women, but you
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shouldn't masquerade it as this, we want equality.
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You don't want equality, not you specifically, but feminists don't actually want equality.
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Because if there was some form of equality that did not stand to benefit women in some
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way, but it would be a true equality between men and women, for example, here's two examples.
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We'll do a shout, actually, really quick, I'll get back to my point on kind of my senses of
03:34:07.360
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03:34:15.460
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03:34:22.860
But first, we've got to get through this conversation on feminism.
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So, the two examples that I could provide here, one would be forced military conscription.
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So, we've had over 100 years of women being able to vote.
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The way men, one of the reasons men originally got, and it was a very short period of time
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that men exclusively had the right to vote and women didn't.
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So, men got the right to vote because they had a corresponding responsibility.
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They got a privilege or a right, and it came with a duty and a responsibility.
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That is, you have to go fight for your country if your country tells you.
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Women secured the right to vote without any corresponding responsibility at all.
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You just got a benefit without any corresponding duty or responsibility.
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The second one is the forced military conscription.
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Well, on your point that I think, or the question that you're going to ask, which I'm guessing is,
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do we support then women being drafted into that?
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But I do remember my second one, and an actual, a true equality, a true equality between men and women would be,
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and I'm not saying this is my position on this.
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But an actual true equality between men and women would be, for example, men have zero reproductive rights.
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A true equality between men and women would be to completely walk back any right to an abortion women have.
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I'm not saying that's my position, but men don't have reproductive rights.
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For example, if a man gets a woman pregnant, she wants to keep the kid, and he doesn't.
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Yeah, I think he should be allowed to walk away from that.
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Not to walk away, to also have a decision on the abortion.
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Well, there's that too, but I mean, so men have zero reproductive rights.
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So a woman can get an abortion because she's not financially ready, she doesn't want to go through with the pregnancy.
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Let's assume she can go through with the pregnancy, but she's not ready emotionally, she's not ready financially, or she just doesn't want one.
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A woman could just get an abortion for no other reason than that she just doesn't want to have the child.
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A guy could hook up with a girl, have a one-night stand, she wants to keep the kid.
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He now has an 18-plus year, potentially plus year, depends on your state, financial responsibility and potentially parental custodial responsibility to a child that he didn't want.
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But a woman who has a one-night stand, who gets pregnant, who doesn't want the kid, well, she can go through with the pregnancy, she can choose to adopt the child out, she could terminate the pregnancy, she could keep the kid, and have this man financially responsible for 18 years of his life.
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So you think men should be able to have some say in whether or not a woman can get an abortion?
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Of course, he's just offering that as a counter.
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So, well, I mean, so my thing is, in any state where a woman can have an abortion, I think a man should be able to say, well, it's called legal paternal surrender.
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So you would just say, yeah, I don't want to be financially responsible.
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Yeah, but it's, we can say that, but it's honestly, frankly, never going to happen.
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Even in states that are incredibly progressive, incredibly liberal, because liberals and progressives don't care about male issues.
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And so, but true equality, if that's what feminists really cared for, it'd be like, well, we can give men this equality that would equalize things, or true equality, we walk back abortion rights completely.
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There's also, though, I know, I don't know, or I probably can't explain this, but equity and equality, I think is where.
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So equality, again, I don't want to compete, like, with men and have everything, I don't know, yeah, be equal in that sense.
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There's, there's, I just mean, equity, you're talking to equity.
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So, yeah, that's, that was just, yeah, it's not necessarily equality, which I think is the problem.
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So, are you saying that, well, it's not equality, but it is equity that women currently aren't required to?
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No, I, I'm saying that the issue with the feminist movement is equality and a push for equality, whereas, again, I understand that there are biological differences between men and women.
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And I don't want to be, yeah, I can't lift the same as, or as heavy as a man would be able to.
03:39:38.880
But, yeah, so what, in, in terms of the two examples I provided, just where does that come in?
03:39:46.080
The two examples that you provided and with, with the.
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Well, so my position is, is that feminism is not, excuse me, it's not an equality, it's not about equality, because should there be some form of true equality between men and women that could conceivably come to the detriment of women, feminists will not fight or advocate for achieving said equality.
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Sorry, yeah, no, I was, I was agreeing with your point.
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I was just stating that the issue that I think with them is that, again, it's the push for equality, which I think is unrealistic.
03:40:21.620
Well, so you're, wait, so you're against the push for equality?
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Well, let me ask you a question, does equity justify the current state of men in this country being the sole subjects of forced military conscription?
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That, yeah, I, I'm on the side where I don't think we should be enlisted, but that's because of all the issues that current women face in the military.
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And the, like, they're subject to a higher percentage of SA, a lot of them are subject to a ton of.
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Ah, wait, hold on, let me, I just got to comment on this.
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Should women be precluded from going to college, given that feminists often like to purport that the SA rate is sky high in universities?
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It's a feminist talking point that in universities, I don't agree with their statistics, but they say that.
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I mean, when we're talking about a draft, though, this is like we're choosing to go to university.
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We're not necessarily choosing to go find a military, so.
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Yeah, different circumstances you're talking about.
03:41:40.780
Okay, you're not compelled to go to university.
03:41:44.900
Yeah, but wouldn't, I don't get that, though, that wouldn't that be worse?
03:41:49.340
So, okay, you're compelled to go to this place where you potentially could get SA'd, versus you choose to go to this place where the stats are way higher for SA'd.
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Wouldn't it seem like you would still advise women not to go to either place?
03:42:03.560
We're talking about education, though, and getting education over fighting a war.
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Soldiers get educated, and you're going to have access to free education post-war.
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I mean, the thing that I don't really understand here, though, is if the argument, or if kind of the worldview is the rates of SA are way higher inside of college, right?
03:42:30.120
There's a lot more kind of drunkenness going on, things like this, kind of logic.
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I mean, logically, I could see how that could definitely be an issue.
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But if your objection is, well, women shouldn't have to go into a draft because of SA, well, then neither should men, because men are far more likely to be SA'd in the military as well, as if they're not in the military.
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So, if men aren't in the military, less likely to be SA'd than if they are in the military.
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Okay, I'm just not really understanding your question.
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Okay, so, if you're saying, well, it's kind of two-pronged.
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But if you're saying women shouldn't go to the draft because their potential to be SA'd is way higher.
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There's just, or not just that, not just that point.
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There's also just the point of physically, again, as well.
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Physically, I think, or not, I think men are definitely better equipped to handle, like, machine, like, heavier machinery.
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Like, do a ton of things that require physical strength.
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I think that, or, like, if, if women fought, like, okay, if you got women versus men to fight in a war, who the hell do we think would, like, would win?
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So, it's just a, it's just more of a, I don't know how much we'd help, necessarily.
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So, then what additional benefit do men receive?
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Like, I don't know how much, I don't know what this could do.
03:44:09.740
Listen, listen, I totally agree with this point, but I, it just kind of makes me want to ask, though, what additional benefit, then, should men receive from the state, considering the fact that you only want them to go and fight wars on behalf of you?
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So, what should they additionally be entitled to that you're not entitled to, is my question.
03:44:36.800
Well, if you want men to go fight wars to protect you, what should they be entitled to that you're not entitled to?
03:44:49.020
Well, they have a greater responsibility than you.
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Okay, so what do you believe that men should be entitled to because they do this?
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You think that our right to vote should be stripped because we don't enlist in the military?
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If you can't defend it, then why should you have it?
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If other people have to defend it on behalf of you, then why shouldn't they exclusively have it and you not have it?
03:45:24.780
Yeah, so I'll make it, I'll, I'll, I'll break it down a little bit.
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Yeah, or, yeah, so I'm just, it just, or I'm getting a, like, because you guys aren't enlisting in the military, you shouldn't have the right to vote.
03:45:38.100
Yeah, I mean, even, but let's assume for a second.
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So all men have to sign up for selective service.
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Which I don't, I don't think should be the case either.
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All men have to sign up for selective service at 18 years old.
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Now, the thing is, is that if a war got bad enough, they would be able to serve in tons of different capacities other than just fighting on the front lines of whatever said war was.
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Especially if a war was bad enough, they would take them with almost any condition.
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So if that's true, and the potential exists that if a massive war broke out, and men are the ones exclusively who are going to fight it, why don't they have additional privileges that the people who aren't able to defend their own rights have?
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If that was the case, then I think that men should have special privileges over women.
03:46:40.100
If it came down to that, again, this is, yeah, you're pushing into that.
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But I mean, it has come down to that many, many times.
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I mean, it's already happened many, many, many times.
03:46:54.140
Yeah, then they 100% should receive special privileges without stripping our right to vote.
03:46:59.720
Well, yeah, but I don't understand because you can vote to make them go to war for you.
03:47:14.940
Well, if women voted to go to war, it would be women, right?
03:47:19.760
And I don't think women would vote to go to war.
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Except the problem you have with that is when we take a look at female monarchs, they often went to war far more than the male monarchs did.
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So it turns out that, and by the way, when it comes to warmongering, women often do vote that direction.
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They don't really have to suffer any of the physical repercussions of it.
03:47:46.220
Since many, many times already in American history there's been a general draft instituted, and men have had to go off and fight wars on behalf of their nation, and women have not had to do this, because you and I agree they don't have the capacity to do so on average.
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Most women don't have the capacity to go fight with men in a war.
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Then why shouldn't those men, I mean, why shouldn't men in general, since they're all assigned to selective service, have the right to vote, because they seem to be able to protect the right, and women can't?
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I feel like with that logic, you shouldn't be allowed to vote, then, if you don't go to war.
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You're still signed up for the selective service.
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You're still signed up for the selective service.
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The potential is only there for you to go to war.
03:48:38.660
My question, again, is why shouldn't they have special, and I'm saying that they should, if they-
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They definitely should, without stripping the right for women to vote.
03:48:50.580
Okay, well, then what special privileges should men get in society?
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Whatever special privileges you think you deserve for-
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Okay, well, I think that women should be able to vote, and that every man's vote should be worth double a woman's vote, because they're the defenders of the nation.
03:49:17.300
You and I agree, every single man at the age of 18 must sign up for a draft.
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You agree with me that every single man must sign up for a draft, right?
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I just disagree with you in the, like, okay, like, my vote should be stripped, because I don't.
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Forget, forget, well, this was because we're in hypothetical land.
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I'm just asking that men's votes are double what a woman's vote is, because they have the burden of being drafted.
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Are Slavic women coming here because they want to embrace American feminism, or are they more interested in maintaining their cultural traditions with American men?
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None of these questions are going to be loaded, I promise you.
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Is it only men who have to sign up for the draft?
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So then does the potential exist that all men could be drafted?
03:50:44.820
Okay, so if the potential exists that all men could be drafted and zero women can be drafted,
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then why is it that we don't give men double the voting that women do?
03:50:55.060
Because we're under the assumption that all men could be drafted to go fight a war and zero women ever will be.
03:51:02.120
It's just, I don't think that would necessarily, I mean, be the solution that we're, like, looking for in our society,
03:51:19.300
I think if you ask men as a collective, like, hey, what do you think we should get for this?
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I don't think all men would be like, I want a double vote over women.
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Men, if you were to, do you think then that if you were to, and we could run this social experiment, I think it's interesting.
03:51:34.840
So you think if you went down the street and you asked men, you have to sign up for selective service and women don't.
03:51:40.900
So we want to, hang on, so we want to give you double the vote of women.
03:51:46.660
Do you think most of them would demand that women had an equal vote to their own?
03:52:03.980
Maybe you guys want your will to, whatever you want politically, you want your will to be the law of the land.
03:52:13.100
If we asked women this question, would you, like, double the voting power of men?
03:52:32.160
Without the simple explanation, yes, I would take it.
03:52:52.480
Hasn't there been talk, though, about also having women being drafted?
03:53:02.540
You think women are going to vote for politicians that get them drafted?
03:53:07.040
You think that women are going to support politicians who institute a draft against women?
03:53:11.100
Because I would say that the chances of that is exactly 0%.
03:53:16.200
I would say that seeing a draft for women in my lifetime is an impossibility.
03:53:20.320
And you mentioned the monarch, but in today's society, these wars are started by men.
03:53:29.260
Okay, so let's assume for a second that they are all started by men, okay?
03:53:50.520
So there could be men who are aggressive against other countries, right?
03:53:54.560
And then men in those countries are defending that country from those aggressive men, right?
03:53:58.660
They talk about, like, peace resolutions and trying to do something other than going to war.
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But they just, the other country just says, no, we don't want a peace resolution.
03:54:10.040
Don't you want your men to defend you if that happens?
03:54:14.040
And if the time came, if that was the case, then, okay, men should get whatever provision we all vote for.
03:54:24.160
The case right now is that if the United States gets attacked and invaded, that all domestic men could be drafted.
03:54:34.900
If they were, then I would for sure support their being special privileges for men.
03:54:42.460
You're saying, you're saying, no, special privileges for men, that's what you're saying.
03:54:46.100
Like, why shouldn't men get an extra vote if they're being required to do that?
03:54:51.680
I'm saying if in the case of that happening, in the case of another draft happening, then, okay, we could talk about what.
03:54:59.300
Okay, well, let's try this a different way, just real quick.
03:55:02.900
Let us assume for a second that you live in, like, a tribe where they practice human sacrifice, okay?
03:55:10.940
And everybody who's only men, only the men are sacrificed.
03:55:18.660
Now, almost none of the men are ever going to be sacrificed.
03:55:26.180
You just know that all of them have the potential to be.
03:55:32.900
Would you have a problem with giving all of the men extra food in that case?
03:55:42.600
Why wouldn't you only give the extra food to the men who are going to get sacrificed?
03:56:15.300
So I was asking, if you were provided the opportunity, you know, you have perhaps strong convictions
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about how you would like to see this country run.
03:56:27.520
Wouldn't you want to empower yourself and women who perhaps lean more towards your own political viewpoint
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Like, if given the opportunity, would you double your vote?
03:56:44.620
I just don't think that doubling the vote is...
03:56:53.080
Okay, since we're talking about hypothetical...
03:57:00.460
Okay, so let's assume that there was a, well, there is another political movement that seeks
03:57:10.360
And in order for you to keep abortion available, one of the ways you can do this, if it was
03:57:18.400
offered to you, you could double your vote and ensure that every woman in the country
03:57:31.960
I'm, I'm not pro-abortions, honestly, unless the girl got raped.
03:57:43.160
If I'm not mistaking, before women can vote, men were able to vote because they had to sign
03:57:49.580
Since women can vote, they should technically have to sign for the draft, or men should too
03:57:58.400
First off, I was just asking the doubling, I was trying to frame it, the abortion question
03:58:08.340
I was just asking, would you double your right to vote?
03:58:23.580
When it comes to voting for those big decisions, I'd rather, generally, smart men do it.
03:58:30.220
The only reason I would take the double vote is to double up on whatever my husband would
03:58:42.480
Well, then you wouldn't need to take the double, wait.
03:58:44.600
Then, Madison, you wouldn't need to take the double vote.
03:58:46.500
Because you're already giving him a double vote.
03:58:49.040
I said the only reason I would take the double vote is to do that.
03:59:00.060
Can I ask, like, a different hypothetical question to everyone?
03:59:04.060
So if feminists did really, really push for equality within this certain topic that we're
03:59:10.560
talking about, and you had to choose between keeping your right to vote and having to be
03:59:22.700
Or would you, like, would you let them take your right to vote away?
03:59:30.800
I would rather not vote and go to the military.
03:59:45.380
You either keep your vote and go to the military, or you don't go to the military and lose your
04:00:04.400
I want to say I'd keep my vote, but I also, on the other side, I feel like my...
04:00:18.360
Or this is just how I feel personally, honestly, with the whole political climate.
04:00:25.460
So maybe also forfeit, but I guess I would keep my vote.
04:00:40.920
So you were saying men were able to vote because they had to sign up for the draft.
04:00:45.100
Well, yeah, that's pretty much one of the reasons men got the vote before women.
04:00:50.800
By the way, men can't vote unless they sign up for the draft.
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The Vietnam draft is so far back in ancient history for these women that never even consider
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Men cannot vote unless they sign up for the draft.
04:01:11.080
Well, you see, and that's where the whole, if we're fighting for equality, then one could
04:01:16.240
argue why shouldn't women have to enlist in order to get the right to vote.
04:01:21.300
Well, one not only could argue it, but that's what we're arguing.
04:01:25.180
What's being argued specifically here is that men can't even vote unless they sign up for
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And men did that in order to ensure the protection of all the people.
04:01:48.860
So it's like, in a sense, we're kind of indebted in certain ways to them for that, if you think
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But let us assume for a second that it was men.
04:02:00.760
Not a single woman wanted there to be a draft ever.
04:02:06.360
Why would that matter if the push is for egalitarianism and equality?
04:02:10.800
I certainly never had an opportunity to vote on that provision.
04:02:17.700
So the question then becomes, well, okay, this is now the law of the land.
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Why is it that we can't really be equal on this then?
04:02:26.500
Why is it either you can't be drafted so that that potential exists for you, so you have
04:02:30.740
the same voting rights that I do, or why is it my voting right double, just because that
04:02:35.640
potential exists that I might have to do something you never would have to do on behalf of you?
04:02:45.640
Did we read that, Maddie, or did it get cut off?
04:02:51.960
Yeah, I mean, Vietnam, there are men who would have been alive today had they not been drafted.
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There are men who are alive today who were drafted, who injuries, missing limbs, arms,
04:03:13.580
It's from the small city, and it's impossible to find someone to date.
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I mean, you could move if it's really that dry out there, man.
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There are meetups, so you can sign up for meetups, which is a cool thing about the internet,
04:03:46.540
is you can sign up to meet up to do hobbies with people.
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And it's a little awkward, but at least it gives you a slight organic chance to meet somebody
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without, like, being on a dating app, as that's...
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It's kind of like a personal ad for yourself, so you're just putting all these traits forward
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you think somebody's going to find to be appealing, but...
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Law Paladins, appreciate all your support tonight, man.
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Smart of you, B, for realizing that progressives don't care about the male issues, so when are
04:04:32.340
you abandoning California for a free state like Florida?
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Well, and the other thing there, too, for people to remember, is that sometimes people
04:04:45.180
are stuck in commie land, California, because they might have family.
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They might have extended family and roots there and things like that, and they can't just
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So you can kind of understand that a little bit.
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But I would also like to see Brian get out of commie for you, honestly.
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I kind of, I mean, I've entertained going to Hawaii.
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I know, as you, as you might understand, uh, so many women from the whatever podcast desire
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and stalk me that if I were to give out that kind of information, I feel like I'd have women
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Uh, but I do do high profile political debates and obviously progressives don't like me very
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So I'm very cautious about giving out too much information about stuff like that.
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I don't want to, I don't want to say where I'm moving to in Florida.
04:06:00.980
Um, and then we have Xander with a, Xander donated $200.
04:06:08.760
Are Slavic women coming here because they want to embrace American feminism or are they more
04:06:14.120
interested in maintaining their cultural traditions with American men?
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I don't, I don't, um, well, I think, uh, uh, she's also somewhat from the Slavic countries
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as well, but I, you know, most of the Slavic women or women from, I wouldn't speak on the
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I think there's lots of, uh, Latino women as well.
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It's just different culture and they have more, um, appreciation for men.
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It's just kind of engraved in them, you know, and also Slavic countries, there is different
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So you would find the mentality of women from, or from Kazakhstan, for example, that's where
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I am from, uh, different from women, let's say from Russia, uh, because Kazakhstan is
04:07:01.500
So it is more engraved, uh, instilled to value of the men.
04:07:08.560
So it's, it's, uh, you know, the way they treat men is, it would be also different, you
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know, but I don't think, uh, all the panel answered the question about feminism, who is
04:07:21.380
I'm not, you know, no, I'm not even a little bit, in fact, I'm anti, in fact, I'm anti-feminist.
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And it's, um, you know, I do, uh, value the opinion of my husband.
04:07:36.840
I mean, if I trusted him with, uh, my life for the rest of my life, he can vote and I will
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And I think this is really, um, goes with a kind of cultural, maybe a difference is that
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women from some countries where their family values are ingrieved just so deeply, they
04:07:55.480
would be supporting their men, you know, no matter what.
04:08:01.320
Uh, so Mia, you, uh, somebody sent me a message about frat boys.
04:08:13.160
Like, weren't you on, you were on another podcast, right?
04:08:15.880
No, I think we discussed this a long time ago though.
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I think it's, no, I think it's very skewed because of the way that it was said, but I
04:08:31.820
The frat boys, Vita at Cal Poly Pomona was definitely my favorite frat.
04:08:45.800
I definitely had fun, but it wasn't anything crazy.
04:08:48.040
I think it was painted in a really aggressive way.
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I was only ever active with one person in that fraternity.
04:09:06.480
But I mean, in the way that it was kind of framed online, it's definitely not nearly as
04:09:11.160
No, but you went on a different, I don't think it was our podcast.
04:09:18.900
It was literally just, what's your craziest, like, what's your crazy sexy time?
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And it was, oh, I had a lot of fun at college with one person.
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Obviously, it was at their house, but there was no involvement of them.
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I mean, they're definitely, the frat house there is terrible.
04:09:51.440
Coco, so last time we had to talk about, you said, like, a bunch of the girls in your
04:09:56.440
I don't know if you're friends with them anymore.
04:10:12.700
It's now been two-ish months of single, and I'm enjoying it.
04:10:27.800
Actually, longer than two weeks, but not consistently.
04:10:38.980
No, not the one that I have the three-year relationship.
04:10:44.200
You're not supposed to do it with any ex-boyfriend.
04:10:47.520
It's probably a red flag that he's not looking for the right things, but...
04:10:52.940
It's like, why would you go after someone that...
04:11:06.840
Like, how big was, like, your roster at its biggest?
04:11:12.280
Well, I mean, like, talking to a ton of people on social media is not what I consider a roster.
04:11:18.780
But if you're, like, seeing multiple people, like, seeing them, seeing them, that's what
04:11:36.660
I think in the past, like, I speak to a few people, but I've, one, I've been single for
04:11:44.720
In the past, prior to my long-term relationship, I had, I think, like, a two- to three-person
04:11:51.280
I'm not hypersexual with everybody, so that's, like, the one that you guys...
04:12:16.320
No, I've only ever been with one person at a time, so...
04:12:46.340
No, but, like, you'll date a woman, you'll date a man.
04:13:04.020
I think, like, when I go out to clubbing spaces, I'm drawn to women.
04:13:12.440
Um, I mean, I'm surrounded by beautiful women, and...
04:13:16.460
So you're saying, like, when you see girls in the daytime, like, they're just uggos?
04:13:31.540
I feel like my eyes are more kind of drawn to a woman.
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If she likes this and this and combine it together.
04:14:28.560
Why do you keep saying woman in place of women?
04:14:46.040
But women will often use woman as the plural for women.
04:15:10.300
So, you prefer men, dating men, but the women's is hot, basically.
04:15:32.520
If I'm with my group of, like, guy friends, I'll kind of only be scoping women, you know?
04:15:40.300
But if I'm with the gals, I'll be like, dang, he's a cuties, you know?
04:15:45.420
Have you ever, like, had a hookup after the club?
04:15:54.960
I'll meet them, and then, like, we'll go out, maybe.
04:16:05.700
How can you get that mad about a piece of fuzz in my microphone, but listen to women say woman
04:16:22.860
I've heard it so much that I just have accepted it as normal.
04:16:30.140
Kind of, for example, the women will say like so much that I do it now, too.
04:16:46.000
I didn't even notice I did that, so thanks for pointing that out, because I didn't even
04:16:53.440
I feel like it's just contamination OCD, specifically like dirty stuff and that kind of thing.
04:17:00.660
I feel as if I haven't heard anyone else say the word like more than that Aussie girl
04:17:38.520
But as far as the roster, though, I feel like out of respect, even if I'm just talking to
04:17:45.980
the person, out of respect, I'll only be talking to that person.
04:17:51.160
So, you're saying like you meet somebody and there's no other options?
04:18:00.740
No, that's why I'm like I won't even clear the roster because there's no roster in the
04:18:11.780
So, if we were to go on the first date, like, there'd be no...
04:18:16.200
I wouldn't go on a date with someone if I also had, like, two or three guys that I
04:18:25.840
First of all, I'm trying to understand what roster is.
04:18:28.660
Oh, roster, like dating multiple people, sleeping with multiple people.
04:18:31.660
Like, you have multiple guys, yeah, or multiple options at the same time.
04:18:41.000
Like, I can't sleep with one guy and then sleep with another guy.
04:18:45.680
Second of all, I don't sleep with any guy unless it's a relationship because I don't want
04:19:07.940
Actually, when I go with him places, he says, Mom, don't put your hand on me.
04:19:14.040
I actually did see you guys earlier, and I thought you guys were a couple.
04:19:28.960
I saw this TikTok recently on my, like, For You page, and it was talking about, like, how
04:19:34.100
For a lot of girls, it's normal that when they go out with their dad in public, like, they
04:19:41.140
And I commented that one time I went to Trader Joe's with my dad, and somebody asked me
04:19:50.840
And they came up to me, and they're like, are you safe?
04:20:02.120
No, I saw this, like, this video that got posted of, like, a girl and her dad.
04:20:07.480
And she was making a comment that, like, oh, like, I'm at the age now where when I go
04:20:12.760
out with my dad, like, everyone asks if we're dating or assumes that we are.
04:20:17.220
And I commented along the lines of, like, I went out with my dad to Trader Joe's, and
04:20:20.860
someone came up to me and was like, are you safe?
04:20:28.680
No, that's crazy that someone would even be so invasive unless you're literally, like...
04:20:38.600
No, I have gotten asked before with my husband if he was my father, so it's the exact opposite.
04:20:49.960
I'll just say he's about 20 years older than me.
04:20:55.440
I mean, I've heard this happening with airlines.
04:20:57.740
Like, if a father is traveling with their, like, child, they'll be, like, suspicious of it.
04:21:18.780
My immediate reaction was, like, oh, it's good.
04:21:20.960
But at the same time, I was, like, this is sort of weird.
04:21:29.520
Because a lot of people in this country, women, get kidnapped, teenager.
04:21:40.720
No, it could have been, like, a type of situation where...
04:21:52.280
A lot of women trafficking in Eastern Europe, too.
04:21:56.140
She's just saying that it's good that she's a little concerned.
04:21:57.740
You don't understand what I'm saying, and you're taking it out of context.
04:22:01.760
Well, I'm trying to keep it in context, so explain what you mean.
04:22:04.120
Okay, I'll explain, because I've seen a few documentaries that women being kidnapped
04:22:09.720
and held in people's houses for years after they was actually beat down emotionally.
04:22:15.200
They start taking them to the supermarket, to places.
04:22:17.580
But they still wouldn't go to a police officer or something.
04:22:19.980
So, every time you see a woman with a man, the assumption is that she's been kidnapped?
04:22:24.800
It had to have been, like, maybe you were, like, a little angry.
04:22:32.780
My dad, for context, I was sort of, like, away from my dad.
04:22:36.400
Like, my dad's headspace sometimes is not completely there.
04:22:40.420
So, I mean, he was, like, far away from me distance-wise, I guess.
04:22:46.360
I just want to say that it comes from, like, a good place of that person's heart.
04:22:50.500
What does your proximity to him have to do with it?
04:22:58.920
Like, does it seem like I want to be there with him when he's all the way down the aisle
04:23:04.080
That's why I'm, like, there had to have been, like, something that she saw that made her
04:23:20.860
I mean, I think that that's the easiest explanation is that she was just some weird fucking nutcase.
04:23:30.440
Yeah, like, what, weird fucking nutcases can't work for Trader Joe's now, or what?
04:23:33.680
Yeah, somebody who is assuming something like that, there must be some kind of...
04:23:41.720
Yeah, that's very demonizing to look at men like that.
04:23:44.740
That's dangerous waters to even just say, like, generally, it's a safe thought to think
04:23:51.200
Like, you can't even go to the store with his daughter without worrying that he has a piece of grass.
04:23:54.980
I'm trying to think what would be, like, a similar situation where the roles are kind of reversed.
04:23:59.180
Like, imagine a guy is out on a date with a woman and...
04:24:07.460
A guy is out on a date with a woman and a guy comes up to the man and is like,
04:24:14.320
hey, you should, like, put on a recording device so that if she falsely accuses you of a crime
04:24:35.420
Like, the only thing I can think of off the top of my head is, like, going to a restaurant
04:24:39.120
with, like, an older-ish woman and them confusing her for, like, your mom or something.
04:24:48.080
Yeah, like, did this woman kidnap you and bring you here?
04:25:17.260
Well, I was coming out of the relationship and actually engagement at that point, and because
04:25:24.500
of my insecurities, I had to feel that there was somebody else to back me, whatever, and
04:25:35.520
actually, many women would experience something like that, who insecure, you know, to have
04:25:40.580
a backup plan or whatever, but that's actually...
04:25:44.000
I was dumped by my ex-fiancee, and it kind of happened that we, you know, still were seeing
04:26:03.980
It was before I met my husband, who I currently married.
04:26:07.360
I'm not super, I'm not proud of it, but there is certainly the, you know, I'm not trying
04:26:14.060
to find the answers or excuse myself, you know, for that behavior, but it did happen,
04:26:22.240
Well, since this kind of just came up in the conversation, I do want to go around on age
04:26:28.060
So, remind us what your age is and what the oldest guy you would date would be.
04:26:47.580
Um, I was just seeing someone, I wasn't in a relationship, I mean, I guess that's a sort
04:27:01.340
And, honestly, I don't think it's better than the guys that are our age.
04:27:06.020
I found that to be really interesting, actually.
04:27:08.720
Like, you'd think with someone older that they'd have it more together, but it was quite
04:27:14.840
Um, in the past, I've gone on a date with a guy in his 30s.
04:27:18.180
So, I would say, like, somewhere in the 30s, probably.
04:27:22.080
I'd say in the 30s as well, but there are also some 40-year-olds that look a lot younger
04:27:32.280
If that was the case, then I'd be like, whoa, you don't look like you're 40.
04:27:44.460
It would be like, I'd be okay with 40 as long as they didn't look 40.
04:28:01.560
But I wish I could meet someone older, but they don't look at me.
04:28:13.320
Like, the most, maybe five years, but even that, it's bad for me.
04:28:21.080
Frankie's, like, three and a half years older than me.
04:28:31.740
Well, I'm married, but easily someone 30 years older than me.
04:28:40.160
But I'm, I would not necessarily prescribe that to every single person.
04:28:45.360
Because there's a lot of people that are not there mentally.
04:28:58.900
Well, the most I'm allowed to say online is he's at least 20 years older than me.
04:29:09.500
I think a lot of people are concerned with power dynamics.
04:29:12.240
But there's always power dynamic no matter what.
04:29:14.540
And I think often it's really widely accepted that the power dynamic is in favor of a woman wearing the pants in the relationship.
04:29:24.060
Like, oh, she wears the pants in the relationship.
04:29:27.920
But it's not okay if the man is in power in the relationship.
04:29:32.680
I think you do need to select a good individual.
04:29:41.840
I think, honestly, a lot of people would not be appropriate fits for an age gap relationship.
04:29:52.360
Yo, Tiger, thank you for the big gifted 50 subs, man.
04:29:59.260
Speaking of which, we'll go to twitch.tv slash whatever.
04:30:02.120
Yo, thank you for the gift, the 50 community subs.
04:30:07.900
By the way, guys, it's been four minutes since the Prime came in.
04:30:50.260
We need you guys to follow us, though, because we're going to be doing Twitch exclusive streams
04:31:12.860
I'm going to play another soundboard thing for you.
04:31:44.420
Yes, every single time he is sending Subway Sandwiches to the studio right now.
04:31:50.220
Every time he sends in one sub, it's one Subway Sandwich.
04:31:53.340
All of us are going to be obese by the end of this fucking show.
04:32:00.680
So for Twitch, it's basically it's like five dollars per sub.
04:32:06.000
And it allows people to watch the stream ad free.
04:32:13.680
I was like, dude, he's getting really excited over Subway Sandwiches.
04:32:17.980
I almost feel like he should he should bring it over to Streamlabs instead of on Twitch
04:32:23.220
because Twitch, those greedy sons of guns, they take 40 percent.
04:32:51.300
Is it a type of tiger or it's like a mountain tiger?
04:33:01.700
Like, can you go to like Idaho and find a Burmese mountain tiger?
04:33:38.660
What's the difference between a mountain tiger and a mountain lion?
04:34:07.280
I'm going to stick with that just to be respectful for his identity.
04:34:15.300
You said that you have a YouTube channel where you advise others on becoming more elegant.
04:34:24.220
You know, a lot of people get offended by that.
04:34:32.700
It's just I think that elegance is basically consideration of others.
04:34:37.340
So you would probably appreciate that in your panelists.
04:34:50.580
When they were also like, oh, when she was like, I didn't hear anyone, like, anyone else.
04:35:09.640
Yeah, I mean, she also made good decisions for herself.
04:35:15.140
Somebody who does that to themselves, it's huge.
04:35:40.920
Wait, have you guys heard that Taylor Swift thing?
04:35:43.960
Where it's like, girls who listen to Taylor Swift give toothy BJs.
04:36:00.100
No way, I've never heard that before and I was just guessing.
04:36:04.580
No, I have, but the phrase that you said I'd never heard of.
04:36:16.920
I thought you said two-dimensional as well, bro.
04:36:19.440
Maybe it's Cope, but it sounds like you said 2D.
04:36:47.140
I should have stayed in France for a few more years.
04:37:10.380
You didn't hear the part where I fucking spoke French, really?
04:37:49.300
It looked like you were seal clapping that you were, and then when nobody else said that
04:37:59.160
He just said that I look like a Swiftie, so also saying that I look...
04:38:07.480
When your teeth accidentally slip on it, basically.
04:38:25.860
When you're S-ing the D and, like, you use your T.
04:38:44.280
You know, Brian, because of your podcast, I'm learning so many words.
04:38:53.880
And I guess Brian thinks that I look like I gave one.
04:39:00.780
The Toothie BJ is when people, like, use their teeth.
04:39:11.000
Brian, how much more tips required to get Hawk to a girl on the show?
04:39:16.660
Everyone was saying that she deleted it all day.
04:39:56.500
You're cordially invited to be on the whatever podcast.
04:40:05.340
Just give any girl access to a computer and she'll find her.
04:40:09.620
The only finish was whether or not he had any questions specifically pertaining to it.
04:40:16.020
Yeah, I mean, if anyone had a specific question or wants to ask what's wrong with me...
04:40:27.400
I mean, a lot of people are judgmental about it, so that's why.
04:40:41.180
I mean, a lot of people think that it's creepy when older men are attracted to younger women,
04:40:45.620
but even if they're with a woman that's also older, older men are always attracted to younger women.
04:40:52.160
I mean, it doesn't mean they should just, yeah, hook up with every single person.
04:41:07.060
When she gets older, she's stuck with the old men.
04:41:11.560
But, I mean, when you love somebody, it's not because...
04:41:13.960
Yeah, but then if you're a young man and you date a young woman...
04:41:31.620
Growing up together is the benefit of being with a younger man.
04:41:38.560
For me, I would rather be with a person that already is established and knows who he is.
04:41:44.460
And when he says, this is acceptable to me, this is unacceptable, I don't have to play games.
04:41:58.500
But you said you've never even dated an older guy, though, right?
04:42:07.680
I have clients that were married when they were younger, older men, right?
04:42:11.740
When he gets older and he starts to feel bad physically or other things happen, you become more like a mate than a wife.
04:42:19.980
Well, when you love somebody, you take care of them.
04:42:26.100
And if he's ever hurt, sick, or anything like that, I would literally give up everything to take care of him.
04:42:31.860
I don't care if I'd have to be his mate or his mother.
04:42:36.400
And that's the thing is when you love somebody, that's what you do.
04:42:38.380
And I would like to imagine that even me at my younger age, if something happened to me, let's say my legs got cut off, I couldn't walk around.
04:42:45.740
But I would hope that he would do that for me, regardless of age.
04:42:54.600
But I would hope he would do that because he loves me.
04:43:00.940
Now you're young and you love him and you're like this.
04:43:03.700
But love doesn't stay when you're in a relationship regardless of age, right?
04:43:08.180
After a few years, I mean, I don't know if you have kids or not, but after you have a kid or two, your body, your hormones changes.
04:43:14.720
Usually your sexuality towards your man after you have kids completely changes, okay?
04:43:19.780
So now it's like you're excited, you're amazing, he's teaching you, he's leading you, he's your amazing man.
04:43:25.180
But when you grow older, I'm not judging, I'm just telling you from hearing stories from other people, you know?
04:43:30.600
I'm not saying everybody, it always could be exceptional, but I also think that like that to the other side.
04:43:35.300
I would never date a younger man because I don't want to be with a younger man and then he'll leave me for a younger woman, you understand?
04:43:46.220
Because through their, the way they carry themselves.
04:43:48.600
That's what I'm saying, it's good for the men, not good for the women.
04:43:51.340
Yeah, actually I read the book by Jeff Weiser called Maxims of Manhood.
04:43:58.760
And he is proposing the formula there of the ideal age gap.
04:44:02.800
So it is basically you take the age of a man, divide by two and plus seven.
04:44:32.300
So it is actually beneficial to get married younger.
04:44:46.680
But for a woman, I guess it goes the opposite way.
04:45:02.040
It's better to meet someone special while you're young.
04:45:17.040
But actually the marriages with a big age gap, they're pretty stable.
04:45:22.800
If they are based on love and connection, of course, and mutual respect.
04:45:28.600
Has anyone ever told you that you sound like Sidney Sweetie?
04:45:39.360
When you said the I love you thing, I was like, am I in a movie right now?
04:45:56.000
I think a lot of guys would disagree with that.
04:46:11.100
Nick, have you been lying this whole fucking time?
04:46:20.120
What are these things that you're saying about my pal Nick over there?
04:46:26.300
What are these malicious allegations that you're making?
04:46:39.880
I don't know what I'm going to play, but I'm going to...
04:47:33.960
Guys, it's been one minute since we've gotten a Prime sub, so I'm pretty sure it's bugged.
04:47:41.900
If you have Amazon Prime, you can link it to your Twitch.
04:47:43.880
It's a quick, free, easy way to support the show every single month.
04:47:55.880
While I'm doing that, boys, go to Twitch, because I'll tell you why you need to go to Twitch
04:48:14.500
So, you said, it would have been better when they were still here, but you said you wanted
04:48:27.340
You believe 99% of these girls, sorry, Mia, will never find happiness in life.
04:48:32.060
Girls who do OF, softcore or hardcore, will never find true love.
04:48:36.540
In addition, promiscuous women will never find true love.
04:48:41.160
Do you want to, like, go back and forth with me on this?
04:48:50.040
And there are marriages, like you were quoting earlier, you know, they get married, it's
04:48:57.720
So, a marriage can perhaps happen through that.
04:49:00.380
I just think that, to a man, is really, really, whether they are interested in sleeping with
04:49:06.160
a woman who is obviously very appealing, visually, like stunning, like you are.
04:49:18.860
Well, I'm just saying, like, they'll be attracted, they'll be interested for carnal knowledge
04:49:24.140
And I think the carnal knowledge brain can definitely get people a little bit excited
04:49:29.620
about things and whatever, but I think ultimately men have an extremely hard time actually getting
04:49:35.980
over the legitimate reality of a woman selling her body for $5, $10, $15, $20 a month
04:49:49.260
I think that's really hard for a man to get over.
04:49:51.480
And I think that's one thing that the feminist culture empowers women to just do what they
04:49:57.100
want and just submit to hedonism because do what makes you happy.
04:50:02.060
If your ultimate goal is not to get married, you don't care, you don't want to have that
04:50:06.380
traditional thing, then I guess it doesn't matter.
04:50:10.020
But I think a lot of women are kind of lying to themselves about that.
04:50:13.720
I think a lot of them do want to find a true love, a man, but maybe not right now.
04:50:19.300
But the problem is that if you want something, an ultimate goal, but you're on a pathway that's
04:50:24.280
taking you somewhere else, you're not going to get that ultimate goal.
04:50:28.740
And there's going to be, it's going to be a lot more complicated.
04:50:38.460
It's just that one of those things is men, like it or not, this is something that is
04:50:48.700
I mean, in my own experience, I came from an entryway to this pathway with OnlyFans and
04:50:57.100
And then I met someone who partook in that journey with me in the frame that he became
04:51:10.380
Everything, everything's not a fucking journey.
04:51:21.080
They took the journey with, it's not a journey.
04:51:23.900
You weren't, you weren't just a small town girl living in a lonely world who took the midnight
04:51:39.000
Nonetheless, with the first initial three years of this job, I was with somebody who passionately
04:51:46.600
And so now, in turn, around January, I left that person.
04:51:50.860
And unfortunately, I've come to face the realities of dating and the culture of men who have
04:51:57.720
separate expectations and separate experiences in dating and that of as well, what they are
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comfortable with in terms of either my past or as well my present with OnlyFans.
04:52:08.080
And with that, fortunately, I've met many great men and not people that I'm dating actively
04:52:13.940
or any of that format, but just people that I've encountered and who I've been with in
04:52:19.120
And with that, I've learned it is not necessarily forgivable in a sense where certain things,
04:52:23.900
of course, cross boundaries, even my own of my past with OnlyFans.
04:52:27.820
But a lot of people are understanding and capable of grasping why I made these decisions,
04:52:32.940
why I proceeded with certain activities or certain content media, et cetera.
04:52:36.860
For instance, I filmed Boy Girl for a short period of time with my partner over the long
04:52:46.820
And so for that, when I speak of that to any man who I'm even considering to be in a
04:52:51.280
dating relationship with, they get that explanation and they grasp typically why I would have
04:52:56.640
done so, considering marriage is on the table and all these things.
04:53:03.900
Um, wasn't your journey to OnlyFans just about money?
04:53:13.000
You were just taking a journey for some fucking cash?
04:53:15.780
Like, is it really like you over complexify the shit out of this, right?
04:53:23.440
And if you showed your, you know, naked body, you got a bunch, right?
04:53:31.880
I mean, if we're not taking, we're not extracting any of the information as for what the money
04:53:35.620
was purposeful for, what my intention with the money was.
04:53:38.500
My money, my goal was I will post images or videos of my body, whether it be nude or not.
04:53:46.040
That is a hundred percent what the account was.
04:53:48.920
So it was, so hang on, so it was a journey to get a bunch of money by taking your clothes
04:54:00.340
This is the journey of taking off the clothes for the money.
04:54:09.520
You said earlier that you were in a relationship and it was accepted and he initiated, right?
04:54:15.680
You have to understand a guy or a man that initiates something like that within the relationship
04:54:27.160
I made my decision to proceed with OnlyFans upon my own discretion prior to this person's
04:54:38.380
If you were next to a good man with values, even if you initiated it and even if you want
04:54:43.600
to do it, he would persuade you from doing this kind of thing because now you're young,
04:54:50.100
But what's going to happen after 10, 20 years when you no longer have this value in the market
04:54:54.940
and then you have that past and you explained also something earlier.
04:54:58.640
You said when you meet a man, you explain it to them the right way, why it happened.
04:55:02.500
And it doesn't matter what you explain, if it's a high-volume man, this stain in your
04:55:13.620
I think it tainted in a sense who I am and who I appear to be.
04:55:19.880
I think I'm very open and honest about my experiences with it.
04:55:22.860
So I know it taints the image that I have and the image that I hold with any potential
04:55:26.580
partners and friends and any comrades of any format.
04:55:37.520
I think, simple basis, everybody does something for money, typically.
04:55:40.460
With any job and any occupation that you choose.
04:55:45.220
It later drove into passion of discovery of self.
04:55:48.360
And yes, I know we can talk into your journey, journey, journey, journey.
04:55:53.220
Was it the discovery of all the shit that you can buy that made yourself happy?
04:56:01.500
Did you find yourself at a department store when you were spending a bunch of fucking money
04:56:17.340
Or are you just going to spend and doing shopping?
04:56:19.820
Because if you're doing this and putting this stain in your life, at least buy real estate,
04:56:26.000
save, and don't have kids because your kid's going to suffer, you know?
04:56:30.220
Damn, that's, that's, that's, can we go back, can we go back, can we go back, listen, I
04:56:37.400
When, when did it stop being about making a bunch of fucking money?
04:56:42.120
Because simps pay you money to see your naked body to a journey of self, when did it become
04:56:49.100
Now it's about me trying to get in touch with my inner, what?
04:57:04.140
So for myself, I, so, for instance, I struggled with insecurities all of my life.
04:57:15.180
As well, the biggest insecurity or biggest anxiety that I dealt with, with my life was
04:57:21.780
Neither of my parents were able to support themselves for a long time.
04:57:25.380
And so, and still continue to struggle, unfortunately.
04:57:27.640
And so for that, that's what drives me most to continue this work, is to help.
04:57:31.140
So then, so then, hang on, by this proxy, I assume that your parents are very much on board
04:57:42.100
They're not in the sense where they're, they want their daughter to be doing all these.
04:57:53.360
You sit down with your old man who just adores you.
04:57:56.260
You're his little girl, the pride of his eye, the jewel that he always wanted.
04:58:02.040
And he sits down with you and he's like, look, me and your mom, we just can't afford
04:58:10.100
I mean, I mean, that's, that's never actually happened, right?
04:58:20.560
I was, I believe, 18 and a half, 19 at that point.
04:58:23.940
I made the decision because I was witnessing what was going on at home.
04:58:31.740
Regardless, neither of my parents were doing well.
04:58:36.900
And at that point as well, my father was wondering about everything else with his life and his
04:58:42.960
Nonetheless, it led me to what can I do to ensure that not only am I safe, but either
04:58:53.560
He works in sales, just for a cell phone company.
04:58:59.020
So if your dad could push a button tomorrow, like let's say we got two buttons.
04:59:03.820
Button one, you stop doing OnlyFans and he's left to his own means.
04:59:08.640
Or button two, you continue to do OnlyFans and then kind of say, well, here's some money,
04:59:17.100
I think both parents would push the discontinuation of the job.
04:59:22.440
So the thing is, is that while for you, the actualization of taking care of both the parents
04:59:29.460
might be some kind of like coping motivation, your parents themselves, if they don't want
04:59:36.240
it, how is it good for them for you to do that on their behalf?
04:59:40.340
In fact, like I'm trying to think of this from my perspective.
04:59:43.320
So let's say a daughter of mine comes to me and is like, dad, you know, you're kind of
04:59:51.560
You're just not making it, you know, but here's the thing.
04:59:54.960
I've got this camera and what I'm going to do is I'm going to hump some dudes on this
04:59:59.240
camera and other dudes are going to pay me a bunch of money while they masturbate to
05:00:04.160
And then we're going to get you out of this poverty situation.
05:00:07.060
I would fucking lose my mind and go, no, I would rather die in the gutter, die in the
05:00:14.100
gutter broke with people literally spitting on me than ever see you do that.
05:00:27.780
And instead of your parents telling you, I don't want you to sacrifice your future,
05:00:31.140
yourself, your body, they literally push you there.
05:00:41.900
I would tell you what I would do if she was my daughter.
05:00:44.080
But it sounds like your motivation was financial security and financial stability.
05:00:49.680
I come from a place that it's very, very much taboo, this stuff.
05:00:55.300
I'm not going to tell you that a lot of Israeli girls, even Muslim girls do it today because
05:00:59.760
you know, the world, it comes and it happens, you know?
05:01:05.500
And if you were my daughter, I would protect you even if I have to clean houses, do whatever
05:01:11.500
And if you ever want advice, I'm always here for you.
05:01:16.520
Mia, did you say that your parents were kind of absent in your life as well and they were
05:01:29.220
Like they were involved in bringing you or they had their own?
05:01:42.680
Listen, you're ascribing, you're ascribing motivation here where it doesn't belong.
05:01:50.900
You see, you've engaged in good faith all night.
05:01:53.040
It's been enjoyable to have these combos with you.
05:01:55.380
This is the part where they get a little bit kind of sticky and tough, right?
05:01:58.620
I get that because we have totally different worldviews, but diving into this, you can't be
05:02:05.420
serious and honest here with me that your dad would prefer or that you can use it as a coping
05:02:19.940
It wasn't, but, or just from the beginning, you said that you did it.
05:02:32.680
I made, I made this decision both initially for myself and it also, of course, had the
05:02:38.820
alignment to trying to figure out what's going on with my family.
05:02:44.160
You should start a group for womansplaining because when we're in the middle of a conversation,
05:02:50.580
No, what she really meant was blah, blah, blah.
05:02:57.500
You had an entire group devoted to stopping the mansplaining and here you are.
05:03:05.220
She had normal parents, not normal, but good parents that really care for her.
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They were protecting her and avoiding this and not push her to the fire just because they
05:03:16.480
When I got to America and got divorced, I was sleeping in the car with my son until I made
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it because I didn't want to go and sleep with men and do all these things.
05:03:24.060
Perhaps you shouldn't take at face value exactly that we're being told the exact truth.
05:03:28.980
It could possibly be that the motivation here is very self-centered and what people often
05:03:35.540
do if they have self-centered motivation is they move towards some form of altruism to
05:03:41.000
cover the fact that it's actually a self-centered motivation.
05:03:44.400
Actually, I'm doing this for this noble cause, which is this, when really the cause is just
05:03:53.360
Isn't the ultimate cause here just that you want the money and the ends of the money really
05:04:06.460
But she's almost like trying to buy the attention of her parents.
05:04:22.840
To a lot of girls who do it without being judgmental, it's a lot of the things you say.
05:04:35.680
Justifyingly, just simply put, I did it for myself.
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I don't think it's important to necessarily give exact detail of what I'm giving them.
05:05:00.560
Well, I would say, for instance, if I bought my dad a Snickers bar, that would be financial support.
05:05:05.200
And then if I said, well, I give my parents financial support in order to justify a thing that I thought was immoral or that they didn't like, but, hey, they're a bunch of hypocritical bastards because, after all, my dad let me buy him a Snickers bar.
05:05:18.200
Wouldn't you say that that kind of support would be far different than, like, I pay their mortgage and take care of their bills?
05:05:25.580
So I'm just asking for this distinction of, like, is it to that scale or is it to the Snickers bar scale?
05:05:32.440
It is to the mortgage scale, and it is also to the scale of buying one of the parents' home.
05:05:38.360
So one of my parents doesn't own a home, so I'm buying a home for them.
05:05:49.700
But you said that your parents would not support that if you told them that, right, that you would quit.
05:05:55.780
No, I'm saying if my parents were to decide to quit or not to quit, they would absolutely not want me to continue doing this every single day.
05:06:12.120
Anyways, so it would have been better had those two other girls still been here because at least Mia, Maya, Mia, whatever, I don't know, she engages in good faith and she has a good disposition.
05:06:24.400
It would have been much better to have dunked on the two Australian demon-y girls than...
05:06:31.080
It's kind of the sticky, it's the sticky point of the convo, right?
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And we've had nothing but good convos the whole night.
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This was going to be a sticking point and I'm glad that we got into it.
05:06:47.240
It would have just been much better to have gone in on these two on this topic, especially since Michaela specifically wanted to call out the OF girls for being to Lulu.
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But too bad the Australians beat feet back down under because they couldn't hold here.
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No, their mouth was literally hanging open, just like, uh...
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You said that when you were 19, you'd been dating a man for almost two years?
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18 years old, I started dating a man that was 28.
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And I dated him for like three and a half years.
05:08:00.980
And one time he was taking a shower, I opened his phone, I went to his music library, and
05:08:05.760
I found thousands of files of unlabeled weird things.
05:08:10.040
I clicked on them, and it was audio recordings that had been taken off of my phone.
05:08:16.320
I'm talking about any time my phone picked up sound, the mic on my phone, like taking a
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shower with the water running, singing, anything you can imagine that made sound.
05:08:26.200
And I obviously freaked out, panicked, confronted him, but I still stayed with him.
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If you're dating a guy that is 28 and you're 18, he's supposed to be a freak.
05:08:36.720
So if I did a guy that's 10 years older than me, then I should expect him to bug my phone
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And a guy that age, he's supposed to be a little bit weird.
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But the way she sounds, she's probably matured in a relatively young age.
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He was not, he does not represent most men at age 28.
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A lot of 28-year-olds could date an 18-year-old and that would, they would never do that.
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How did we get to the 28-year-old fear factory here?
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I mentioned earlier that the oldest guy I was with was 28.
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And you didn't give, oh, the fake number thing?
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Still, I was with this guy, committed, lived with him and everything, okay?
05:09:55.960
I got a text on my phone one day from a number I didn't know, and the number said it was, like,
05:10:03.920
It was very, like, flirtatious, as though we'd met.
05:10:08.380
I was too scared to even look a male cashier in the eye because that boyfriend was extremely controlling,
05:10:15.260
So, anyway, I told him about this immediately because I was scared he would find out anyway,
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and then he accused me of lying and saying, you do know who this is.
05:10:24.180
You did give your number, and basically tormented me as I'm, like, crying.
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I come to find out a few weeks later that that was him.
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And then he was testing me, but the problem is not just the testing.
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He tortured me for the rest of the day, and, look, I was stupid for staying with him.
05:10:46.100
I grew up since then, but, yeah, he liked the torment.
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At the time, yeah, it was not cool, but it was just a crazy dating story.
05:11:04.100
I think one of the main reasons even you are so cynical about divorce, which is, I mean,
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not divorce, marriage, which, you know what, I'm not saying is invalid by any means, is
05:11:14.540
because of what feminism has turned society into.
05:11:20.180
I'm just saying it's made women extremely self-serving, and it's not that women shouldn't
05:11:27.120
We went polar, like, the opposite direction, and I think we started blaming men for every
05:11:34.000
single issue and problem in the world, and men have started, a lot of men have started
05:11:38.640
bowing the knee to that, and that's just empowered these women more, because if these
05:11:42.980
men didn't allow women to continue with this narrative, if they said, enough, it would
05:11:48.600
But so many of these men are just, they wanted to sleep with these chicks or something.
05:11:56.380
You immediately moved over to what about the men, though, right away.
05:12:00.540
You started, hang on, you started strong with the feminism is at fault, and there's some
05:12:07.140
You moved right to what about the men, though, right away.
05:12:12.100
Do you believe that men allow women to, do men run things, ultimately?
05:12:21.420
Yeah, I think that ultimately, due to forced doctrine, things will reduce down to a patriarchy.
05:12:26.300
But men operate within a hierarchy, and that's a portion of the problem that women don't seem
05:12:32.420
to understand, because they don't operate in one.
05:12:34.480
So when women make the counter argument, no, this is really the patriarchy's fault, which
05:12:39.760
is a feminist argument that you're currently making.
05:12:47.860
So it's not, it's not men's fault that they're enabling women to do this?
05:12:52.200
I just think ultimately, though, men are the ones in power, and that, to me, to me, that's
05:13:01.000
But men are ultimately in power, which means whose fault is it?
05:13:15.720
If men, I'm just looking for a logical extension here.
05:13:18.240
If men are ultimately the ones who are in power, then whose fault would this be?
05:13:25.080
I think that it's still the women's decision to do those things that are wrong.
05:13:31.020
But I think that men ultimately, because I believe men are more powerful than women, because
05:13:35.960
I'm not delusional, I think that if they put a stop to it, it could stop.
05:13:40.640
Then if they have the power to stop it, and they're not stopping it, but they could stop
05:13:46.620
I think it's just to appease women, honestly, because women make a lot of noise.
05:13:57.740
Like, look, I'm listening to your logic here, right?
05:14:02.900
Men are appeasing women, and they don't have to.
05:14:07.060
But they have ultimate force to stop appeasing women, and they're not, and they're at the
05:14:16.000
I still think it's the woman's fault, but I think it's because men...
05:14:23.120
I think that men are not all cruel and brutal like women say they are.
05:14:31.760
I think that they have soft hearts, and I think they do allow women to have a lot of
05:14:38.300
But I think even you would agree that ultimately, if men wanted to, they could put a stop to everything.
05:14:44.040
Men are the ones that allow women to have rights.
05:15:04.540
Ultimately, men have the power to put a stop to all of it, but they don't.
05:15:09.760
I have the power to stop some fucking heinous action, right?
05:15:32.260
It's because men and women, human beings, they are not perfect.
05:15:36.740
Men are not always going to make ultimately perfect judgment calls.
05:15:43.960
However, I'm just saying that women are running with these, a lot of these rights, and they're
05:15:49.980
going a bit crazy, and it's ruining our society in many ways.
05:15:54.320
I do think that men, because I believe men are stronger than women, and men do ultimately
05:15:58.240
hold the control, which I think you couldn't even argue with.
05:16:00.720
I think that if they really wanted to, they could put a stop to it.
05:16:10.140
And it's because you forget about the hierarchy.
05:16:15.100
So, again, this is because you don't operate inside of one.
05:16:18.120
There are very few bad actors, mostly rich industrialists, which empowered feminism.
05:16:28.220
Same types of rich industrialists throughout about 125 years have really pushed this agenda.
05:16:35.420
But inside of this hierarchy, most of the men are actually disenfranchised from doing much
05:16:40.780
about it, short of some type of extreme, well, I can't even get into what it would take
05:16:47.040
on YouTube, but it would be extreme to do something about this.
05:16:51.600
It would be an extreme response to do anything about it, because you still are operating inside
05:16:58.980
Women don't operate in hierarchical structures.
05:17:08.720
They only compete with men, usually for the men at the top of these hierarchies.
05:17:12.860
So, it is true that ultimately this teeny tiny group of men may have some power here.
05:17:19.900
And they may have some authority where they're working with various women in order to do
05:17:24.920
The disenfranchised men, or the people who, the men are at the bottom of this hierarchy,
05:17:29.420
they would have to control it only through an extreme means.
05:17:32.000
And so, when I say that, all powers reduce, right?
05:17:36.840
Or, I'm sorry, all powers reduce to physical force.
05:17:41.600
But it's not the responsibility of men who were born into a disenfranchised position to
05:17:54.900
I get what you're saying, and I don't disagree with you.
05:17:56.860
It would have to be absolutely extreme measures, and should that be put on the man's shoulder?
05:18:02.000
I'm just speaking passionately, but it's not specifically that I think, and I actually
05:18:09.780
Extreme action would have extreme consequences, and it would be a disaster.
05:18:19.260
Like, even him saying, I'm not getting married, it's not worth it.
05:18:23.140
Even vocalizing that, even though I disagree that that's the best outcome for a man's life,
05:18:29.020
is going to help that movement of not bowing the knee to the woman.
05:18:36.160
Well, then it sounds like he has every incentive in the world not to get married.
05:18:43.440
Okay, so we got to get into this a little bit more.
05:18:47.880
Ought, the supposition of ought, meaning this is something you should do.
05:19:04.500
But actually tell me why, as a secularist man, you're sitting across from him.
05:19:11.200
He doesn't believe in any of that hoodoo voodoo witchcraft, right?
05:19:14.860
And you have to make a secular argument to him from a secular perspective, from a non-believer's perspective.
05:19:21.800
Yeah, it's the same exact thing I said earlier.
05:19:25.060
It's the matter of the ceremony of the commitment.
05:19:32.020
That's something that would appeal to the secular, not just the religious.
05:19:38.940
Okay, so let's say a secularist goes out and he goes...
05:19:48.840
Is that just as valid to you as like a Christian marriage is?
05:19:52.460
You know, I think that it is a bit complicated.
05:19:58.220
I think to those who are not married, they just wouldn't quite get it.
05:20:09.940
So I am married, but I have this great, wonderful enforcement mechanism called God.
05:20:19.960
And I have a church which governs portions of my marriage.
05:20:23.640
And these things are necessary inside of the confines of marriage.
05:20:28.520
You have to have community also as a support for marriage.
05:20:31.560
That's one of the big things missing in society, which only church can bring.
05:20:44.760
But any guy I'm talking to, he's like, you know, Andrew, I like you.
05:21:01.760
In modernity, give me a single reason which is valid.
05:21:06.660
I am certain that when Brian is truly, truly in love, and he knows that he met a super special
05:21:19.040
woman who makes his life better, and who just brings the best in him and brings the peace,
05:21:31.680
He will do that for her in order to stabilize their relationship.
05:21:37.400
If she's giving him all of that shit before he marries her, then why the fuck would he marry her?
05:21:44.980
He needs a good Christian girl who is not giving him.
05:21:50.900
I just listen to everything you say, but you cut me off before I finish my point, right?
05:21:55.240
So I'm going to ask you directly, listen to what I'm saying before you respond.
05:21:59.480
If you're giving the man all of that stuff, right, all the adoration, all the love, bringing
05:22:06.460
peace in his life, and you think he's great, you think he's wonderful, and you throw roses
05:22:10.640
at his feet, you make him fucking bacon and eggs every morning while you're giving him
05:22:17.560
And you're like, honey, but I'd really like you to marry me.
05:22:19.920
And he's like, yeah, no, I'm not going to do that.
05:22:33.960
When a person receives love and care and unconditional love, it is, at first, it is very, it's kind
05:22:47.920
of foreign at the beginning, but then the person becomes addicted to that, and they want more
05:22:57.040
And so when the woman is consistent, and she actually believes that her man, who may be
05:23:04.520
not exactly 100% yet, but she believes in him, and helping him grow, and most importantly,
05:23:16.580
Then absolutely, at some point, and she is, you know, I agree with you, and she is Christian
05:23:35.500
She does have standards, and she's high value woman.
05:23:39.000
Okay, so she gives 100% of herself, and she invests herself in him, and they grow together,
05:23:50.460
and they go through challenges together, supporting each other.
05:23:54.220
Eventually, eventually, and I've seen it happening with my clients, okay?
05:23:59.280
I've seen it happening with so many guys, the men who really didn't feel love and unconditional
05:24:11.440
The woman comes into their life, who is filled up with love and care, and she is connected
05:24:24.020
And yes, at some point, they do see her as someone who is super, super special.
05:24:29.840
And I have experienced that with many of my clients.
05:24:43.420
She sees him, and he sees her as super duper ultra special.
05:24:49.380
They're the most ultra specialist people who could ever be ultra special to each other.
05:24:54.260
No two people have ever had this kind of interpersonal connection.
05:25:07.700
Why would he actually need to do that to have all of that shit?
05:25:10.900
Because he wouldn't want that person to give love to someone else.
05:25:23.140
It's baked into your hypotheticals that she's already got the best...
05:25:30.520
He doesn't have to worry about her giving affection to anybody else.
05:25:36.180
Well, if he did not make a commitment to that person fully through the point of marriage,
05:26:09.180
And I'll love and adore you till the day that I die.
05:26:13.620
I'm still going to treat you like you're my wife.
05:26:15.600
But I'm not actually going to get married to you.
05:26:19.760
If you're not going to marry me, then I'm going to fucking leave.
05:26:22.360
Well, then it doesn't sound like she really loved him and thought he was the greatest
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It sounds like maybe she didn't really think that.
05:26:39.540
You're talking about manipulation and idolizing someone.
05:26:42.320
I'm talking about purity and kindness of the heart.
05:26:51.580
Because if she had all this adoration, loved him, thought he was the greatest ever, and
05:26:57.000
performed as though she did, and he said he wouldn't marry her, right?
05:27:03.300
That's the opposite of all of those qualities you're talking about.
05:27:08.060
That's why I think that absent God and absent Christianity, there can be no true marriage.
05:27:19.300
A woman gave me an ultimatum after four months that I needed to marry her.
05:27:33.260
I have a hard time trusting women because I've been lied to so many times.
05:28:08.040
Andrew is moving to Miami to bring the Lord to the strumpets.
05:28:52.000
B and other men not wanting to get married actually feeds into the goals of the globalist elite.
05:28:58.300
He's furthering their agenda, which is controlled through depopulation.
05:29:06.020
I mean, that's a completely illogical position.
05:29:12.580
Your conclusion is not supported by the premise.
05:29:17.840
He's feeding into the globalist elite by not getting married.
05:29:21.580
But then you say, because it feeds into depopulation and yet even married people were getting married
05:29:27.300
in their 30s, settling down in their 30s, he could be having children tomorrow.
05:29:32.460
He could have more than married couples on average.
05:29:37.800
Just out of curiosity, do you know the statistics?
05:29:42.180
Do married couples have more children than unmarried couples?
05:29:49.320
Interestingly enough, just so you know, I want you to notate this, that secularists are basically
05:29:55.320
thinking themselves out of existence because they don't have children.
05:30:00.760
It's not a thing which they want to burden their lives with.
05:30:05.940
And they're kind of addicted to this materialism thing.
05:30:08.920
And so they're kind of thinking themselves out of existence at a rate which nobody could
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ever have foreseen, and it's going to continue to accelerate.
05:30:19.780
Ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10, and you cannot pick 7.
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Are you the person who raised yourself the highest at the table?
05:31:45.100
So, then I want you to just acknowledge that you think you're the prettiest girl at the table.
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Now, let me ask to the gal who's next to you, who's sitting next to you right now, in the
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gray, in the first row, who leans back and puts herself out of frame all the time.
05:32:32.700
I will not say that she is the single prettiest girl at the table.
05:32:54.640
If the gal next to you claims she's a 9 and you think the gal in the red is a 10, right?
05:33:04.020
Otherwise, she can't be prettier than the 9 unless you think that the gal next to you is
05:33:15.800
Is the gal next to you a 9 or is the chicken red a 10?
05:33:21.140
In distinction to the table, I would say the gal in red is a 10.
05:33:28.140
I had to say the thing for the Burmese Mountain Tiger.
05:33:32.740
In relation to the table, I would say the gal in red is a 10.
05:33:41.740
In relation to whether or not the person next to me is a 9,
05:33:45.800
I would not say that she is a 9 on the scale of what I am looking at overall at the table.
05:33:51.100
Regardless, that's not saying that she is not a 9 in her own mind,
05:33:54.340
and I don't know that she cannot be at that level either.
05:33:58.480
But it sounds like we have an objective standard that even women can follow,
05:34:10.560
Going around the table, with total honesty, rate the girl next to you.
05:34:20.300
Starting with the right, rate the girl next to you.
05:34:38.940
I don't think I'm the hottest girl at the table, no.
05:34:41.960
The gal with black said she was the prettiest girl at the table.
05:34:45.020
Now you're not the prettiest girl at the table?
05:35:31.660
I think if we're being relative to age, obviously that has a factor.
05:35:40.040
We're just looking for objective on a scale of...
05:35:43.220
How pretty are you in relationship to all other women on planet Earth?
05:35:56.740
And right after we hear your honest answer of all women on planet Earth who exist, scale
05:36:08.820
In comparison to all women on planet Earth, really.
05:36:12.880
And you're the honest, non-anti-feminist, right?
05:36:18.760
Okay, so I'm a feminist if I'm kind in this exact moment.
05:36:34.700
I think you're over-intellectualizing this question.
05:36:37.320
I think that you want me to diss her and say something low, and I just don't agree.
05:36:47.040
I just want you to explain how it is that you're doing a kindness if it's not that you're saying
05:36:52.200
something which you think isn't true because you don't think it'll hurt someone's feelings.
05:37:08.980
And that's the answer to your question regarding kindness.
05:37:11.700
That does not actually make me a feminist, believe it or not.
05:37:19.980
Andrew, I understand it's difficult with only 200 characters.
05:37:27.420
It's actually the goal and secularism, no marriage, of our steps on the way to get there.
05:37:35.280
In fact, half the reason I argue against some of these arguments is because they're bad arguments.
05:37:40.940
And I want, in the ethos, good arguments that stop depopulation, right?
05:37:55.520
Okay, so I said, first I said relative to age 7.5, and then you said I cannot do that.
05:38:00.700
And so then I said, I'm just going to stick with my answer anyway, so then therefore that's kindness.
05:38:07.820
Because otherwise you would have changed your answer, right?
05:38:17.860
Well, I'm sorry if you were going to change your answer to something that was more true and decided not to,
05:38:22.660
and that was kind, then you're saying the kindness is that you're lying.
05:38:32.780
So if you say, I'm not going to change my answer, but ordinarily would change my answer,
05:38:37.040
and that's the kindness, and that means that the kindness is that you're not telling the truth.
05:38:47.100
I don't like comparing people in the slightest.
05:38:51.140
You, uh, so you don't make any discernments in terms of the people you date?
05:39:06.020
So if we had a guy who was 5'3 and a guy who was 6'3, you wouldn't make any comparisons between the two?
05:39:35.920
So the last guy you happen to be in a relationship with happened to be in, like, the one percentile of male height?
05:40:06.580
That was, like, the one outlier of the guy who I was, like...
05:40:18.380
So you would be comparing, like, one guy's looks to another if you were debating on who you ought to or not ought to date?
05:40:30.480
Okay, you have two guys that are hitting on you, whatever.
05:40:38.660
It wouldn't factor into your comparison of which one to date?
05:40:47.440
Like, would I compare them just based on their looks?
05:40:53.440
Have you ever seen, like, a group of guys walk past you and seen one guy in the group and be like, oh, he's hot.
05:41:16.480
So, it's like, how can I lie and be like, oh, I don't compare them.
05:41:25.260
You're asking me to rate every single girl here that's comparing us.
05:41:34.020
I'm working with women all day regarding beauty and they enhance their lips and the cheekbones and everything.
05:41:40.400
But not all the time, but I want to say something.
05:41:47.020
But a lot of the women, they intend to always lie to one another regarding their look.
05:41:54.940
Like, I would see a woman that goes somewhere else to inject and they give him like a really
05:41:58.160
ducky lips and they're like, oh my God, you're so gorgeous.
05:42:02.340
And it looks ridiculous, but because she's her friend, she would be embarrassed to tell
05:42:12.840
And I can demonstrate this now in real time now that we have all your answers.
05:42:16.520
So we're just going to go around the table for one last question.
05:42:19.260
Because I know Brian wants to move it on, right?
05:42:25.260
If you thought that it was a kindness to lie to the woman next to you about how pretty you actually thought she was, would you?
05:42:38.560
If you thought it was a kindness to lie to the woman next to you about her looks, even if you didn't think she actually looked that good, would you do it?
05:42:50.420
I never lie, actually, when I work with him and I tell him you look ridiculous.
05:43:13.780
For me, the definition of beauty is not the hour.
05:43:23.080
They pick women based on your look and your elegance and how you carry yourself.
05:43:28.500
That's why women, it's successful to do injections and all that.
05:43:32.540
Because women sell themselves visually, first of all.
05:43:38.320
Because when a man see you, he doesn't see your personality.
05:43:48.540
Brian, I want to acknowledge you with something and I'll show you after pictures.
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And now, the most popular thing is to do things natural.
05:43:57.840
I can show you girls that you would never guess that they injected.
05:44:01.280
In America, unfortunately, everybody do the same courses and they give them like crazy
05:44:05.560
cheekbones, ducky lips, crazy Botox eyes that go like pointed really, really there.
05:44:13.280
If you go to other places, they don't inject like that.
05:44:17.640
And I'm sure you as a person who is a licensed injector wouldn't be saying that because it's
05:44:22.200
a great promotion for your business that nobody will ever know that they're injected
05:44:43.440
Let's do not just injections, but all plastic surgery procedures.
05:44:52.860
But I didn't do any plastic surgery in my face.
05:45:01.300
I injected my own nose because I specialize with noses.
05:45:17.560
After I had my son, they dropped to my knees, so I had to reduce them and put implants.
05:45:21.560
People always ignore the fact that you can get fillers for your backside, too.
05:45:27.060
But in America, it's not allowed to do fillers to your butt.
05:45:29.620
Okay, have you done any cosmetic procedure to the booty?
05:45:43.840
It's a compliment because I really wanted to do it, and I didn't do it because I didn't
05:45:52.560
Actually, I have a lot of cellulite, and it's fluffy.
05:45:56.940
I would like to just point out also that there's no possible way that you can rate yourself
05:46:03.820
the prettiest girl at the table and then rate the girl next to you as pretty as you are
05:46:07.460
and then have the position that you would not lie to another girl out of kindness.
05:46:12.340
I just want to let you know that that's just an objective truth.
05:46:27.900
I think what are the benefits of being honest about that?
05:46:31.080
I weigh the pros and cons of the truth that I decide to hit people with, and I'm sure there's
05:46:36.580
nobody in this room or on this panel, including yourself with all due respect, that is 100%
05:46:42.580
always honest with people no matter what, even if it will give them a reality check about
05:46:48.760
I just don't think it's always necessary, but I respect your perspective on it.
05:46:53.980
I get that, and it is better to be honest, but at the same time, what are the pros and
05:47:02.680
So the thing is, is like, okay, fair enough, but let me just ask you this directly.
05:47:16.960
I mean, they all lied when they were pointing at the girl next to them and rating them.
05:47:21.800
Basically, everyone except the blonde was lying the entire time, weren't they?
05:47:35.200
But like, every other girl in there was basically lying, weren't they?
05:47:37.780
Can you say your actual question part of that again?
05:47:41.860
Wasn't pretty much every girl on that panel, as they were rating the person next to them,
05:47:46.860
minus the blonde in the back in Madison, lying?
05:47:54.600
So you are asking my objective, my opinion on everybody's looks, ultimately, is what you're
05:48:01.300
Like, do I think everybody's less attractive than they think that they were not telling the
05:48:09.740
I think perhaps some people fluffed the numbers.
05:48:18.300
Andrew, Andrew, Andrew, Andrew, darling, why don't you answer that?
05:48:25.840
But I want you to promise that after I do, you will.
05:48:34.600
Sure, but everyone needs to repeat their ratings.
05:48:37.320
Okay, I just want you to promise that you will.
05:48:38.600
Or if you remember, then you go ahead and do it.
05:48:41.020
Okay, okay, so we'll start from the right going left.
05:48:44.960
Okay, so first girl lied about the girl to her left.
05:48:47.720
Girl to her left lied about the girl to her left.
05:48:50.200
Girl to her left lied about the girl to her left.
05:48:52.600
Girl to her left lied about the girl to her left.
05:49:14.520
I said that before you started, so I can't tell you.
05:49:17.080
Okay, well, the ratings were a girl in black said that she's a nine, said the girl next
05:49:24.860
Okay, do you think that she was not being honest?
05:49:30.600
Sorry, I just want to say that men do this all the time, too, though.
05:49:35.280
In fact, if we see a guy who's better looking than us, we make sure to call him ugly just
05:49:42.220
I mean, I've been in situations where they're like, oh, yeah, I have a friend.
05:49:47.760
Wait, but that's actually, you're saying they'll bring a friend who's cute?
05:49:53.840
No, they'll say he's really cute, and then he'll show up, and he's not cute at all.
05:49:57.920
But, so, do you think it could potentially be, when you made the determination that this
05:50:03.380
man is not cute, that he's actually your looks equivalent, but because you have an overinflated
05:50:11.460
sense of your own physical attractiveness, he's actually your equivalent, but you think
05:50:32.520
Well, I mean, sorry, I got distracted by 20 different things going on.
05:50:42.020
Okay, so, you think that men will overestimate their physical appearance at the same frequency
05:51:05.420
They do it, too, but women do it way more, and I'll tell you why.
05:51:11.880
I'll grant to you that there are some men who are delusional.
05:51:15.860
The difference is, is that men get rejected on the front end.
05:51:21.180
So, if I step, if I step, if me, if I step to a Victoria's Secret model, I'm getting an
05:51:31.360
I can't get anything from a girl who's like, in terms of her attractiveness, is more than
05:51:38.640
She might be, there could be a specific girl who is, maybe she's attracted to, it could be
05:51:44.580
My toxic personality, she could be attracted to status, money, whatever.
05:51:50.480
Looks-wise, if I'm just a normal dude and I step to a girl who's more attractive than
05:51:58.940
I'm not getting, I'm certainly not getting casual sex.
05:52:01.480
As a woman, if you're a six and you step to a nine and you make yourself sexually available
05:52:16.200
Like, oh, I'm going to make myself sexually available to a girl who's three points more
05:52:21.700
She'll fuck me once or twice, but then that's it.
05:52:24.640
In order for a, in order for a woman to sleep with a man, he needs to be at least physically
05:52:29.600
attractive enough for her to consider being in a relationship with him.
05:52:33.280
For men to sleep with women, men will sleep with women, that they would, they would immediately
05:52:38.900
disqualify from a relationship just on the basis of her appearance, but they'll welcome
05:52:48.460
And so for this reason, women will be able to sleep with men who are, have higher status,
05:52:54.540
who are more physically attractive, who make a lot of money.
05:52:57.200
A 19 year old college girl can go fuck an NFL player, can go fuck an NBA player, can
05:53:02.840
fuck Drake, can fake, fake, fuck a famous musician, actor, what have you.
05:53:11.760
Literally, like, you'll hear these stories, these 19 year old college girls, fucking famous
05:53:19.400
There's not 19 year old, like normal-ish to decently attractive college guys who are getting
05:53:31.260
Well, I mean, if whenever they were single, right?
05:53:37.320
So what ends up happening is because you have sexual access to men that would never be in
05:53:42.980
You'll think, well, if I can fuck a guy who's a nine, I must be a nine.
05:53:49.800
So you think, okay, well, but that's not, that's not your league.
05:53:54.840
So you'll think, okay, well, I can frequently sleep with men who are eights and nines.
05:54:03.400
Your league is the men who you can get long-term commitment from and or marriage.
05:54:09.920
And so, but what ends up happening is if you start getting sexual attention from these men
05:54:14.200
and some of these men, granted, will act as if they're interested in a long-term relationship
05:54:20.420
with you, but they're not in order to even further, aside from the differential in physical
05:54:27.820
attractiveness, in order to further their aims of having just easy access to sex with
05:54:33.760
you, they might even kind of, uh, lie and say that, yeah, I'm open to a long-term relationship,
05:54:40.980
Some might be honest and just keep things casual, but you might still even entertain
05:54:44.220
that really hot, attractive guy, uh, just because he's not attractive and you want to
05:54:49.740
Um, and also, I mean, hookup culture is also a culprit here, but so I guess what I'm getting
05:54:56.680
at is the difference is, is like, so you women will get some degree of attention from men who
05:55:07.360
You typically won't get long-term romantic attention, but you'll at least get sexual
05:55:13.680
Whereas, like I said, if I step to a girl who's a nine instant rejection, whereas women, you
05:55:20.960
When I say rejected on the backend, I mean, uh, two weeks, you date a guy for two weeks.
05:55:26.680
And then it's done, but it's, I don't know if that's the case with you necessarily.
05:55:30.840
Cause you kind of are over them too, but like, you'll, you'll hook up the guy once, then he'll
05:55:37.020
Whereas for men, it's like, we will, as soon as I, as soon as I stepped to a girl, want
05:55:43.580
sex, not, not that I would approach that way, but like, you can't just slaying dick that
05:55:49.640
like girls, you can slaying pussy, but guys can't just go up and to like a chicks that's
05:56:05.360
But as a chick, it's like, eh, she's kind of mid, but the pussy's probably, okay.
05:56:09.960
You know, we'll fuck for a couple of weeks, whatever.
05:56:16.720
I want to, I want to add something regarding to what Andrew said before, when he mentioned
05:56:22.920
about my face, I'm actually writing a book that's coming in about a month or two, it's
05:56:30.940
If I knew what I know today about myself and about injections and all this and not influence
05:56:37.220
when I was actually learning the injections and everything, I would never inject myself.
05:56:42.420
And I said that when we started the podcast, you can see my forehead, no more Botox, and
05:56:51.280
Well, I mean, I was in the middle of having an on-topic conversation and then it was like
05:57:00.540
You dismiss what I said almost through the whole.
05:57:07.580
If you look at my book and everything that I've done.
05:57:09.660
No, but I didn't mean it from a me perspective.
05:57:13.740
I meant that any girl here could be doing what I did when I was a little bit younger.
05:57:23.000
Well, I mean, you can roll your eyes, but he's right.
05:57:34.820
Okay, you can laugh all you want, but the girls here got what I'm saying.
05:57:42.080
One of the other differentials here, so can I ask the ladies a question?
05:57:46.660
If you know that you can sleep with a guy, do you also know with certainty that you can
05:57:57.860
You're like, I could definitely sleep with this guy, but is it always equally apparent
05:58:06.240
No, and that's not even a thought going through my head.
05:58:11.180
You guys, instead of shaking your heads, you have to say?
05:58:15.740
With sleeping with a guy, actually, it's not going to be a relationship.
05:58:18.660
If you wait, maybe you have the chance to do a relationship.
05:58:32.320
The question is, if you sleep with a guy, you could get him into the relationship?
05:58:39.460
Is it a guarantee that you can, like, pretty close...
05:58:48.640
As a guy, if I can sleep with a girl, there's a pretty good chance I can get that girl in a relationship.
05:58:54.660
But I don't think women can say the same thing.
05:58:58.160
Like, almost, if, as a guy, if you can sleep with a girl, there's a very high chance you can get her in a relationship.
05:59:15.560
But, again, you're coming from the sense that it's the guy trying to pursue the girl in this case, right?
05:59:20.980
Like, he thinks if he can sleep with her, he can get her into a relationship.
05:59:27.760
So, if I'm pursuing a girl and she sleeps with me, I'm very confident.
05:59:32.580
I do want to remove, like, one-night stands from this.
05:59:40.300
Like, if you meet on a, you know, on a dating app or whatever, whatever it is.
05:59:47.660
But, if I'm pursuing her or she's pursuing me, if I sleep with her, regardless of the direction of interest, initial interest, in either scenario, I can get her in a relationship.
06:00:00.240
In fact, if she's pursuing me, the chance of me getting her in a relationship is orders of magnitude higher.
06:00:18.300
Like, if the guy's pursuing the woman versus you pursuing the man, there's still probably a higher percentage chance that you can get the guy who's pursuing you into a relationship.
06:00:31.600
I feel like it's, like, more likely if a girl makes the first move.
06:00:36.100
I don't know if it's, like, the same kind of thing.
06:00:38.100
But, if a girl makes the first move, I feel like it's more likely that that relationship will go.
06:00:43.260
Maybe not go somewhere, but, like, it'll work out in whatever way it's meant to.
06:00:50.200
Anyways, so, going to last thing on the rating thing, will you be more physically attractive in 10 years?
06:01:02.000
You think you'll be better looking in 10 years?
06:01:06.000
Okay, so, are you better looking now, or will you be better looking in 10 years' time?
06:01:26.740
No, I think I'm not gonna look better in 10 years.
06:01:38.280
So, for me, you know, it is not just the physical look, but it is, uh, you know, the internal.
06:01:46.160
I mean, the confidence, it's just about the confidence, how I actually feel about myself as a person, you know?
06:01:51.880
So, it is, uh, like Andrew said, you know, ratings is so...
06:01:57.640
You're gonna feel better, but maybe the world doesn't feel like that.
06:02:05.700
Whether it goes for looks or, you know, internal beauty.
06:02:49.920
So, when I turned 21, I had just gotten out of my long-term relationship, my three-year relationship.
06:02:56.340
So, then I made a Tinder for the first time, and the first date I went on was with a guy
06:03:02.800
who was, like, 32, maybe, and he picked me up in his Tesla.
06:03:07.100
I'd never been in a Tesla before, and he just kind of, like, drove around.
06:03:12.140
He wanted to, like, show me how the Tesla worked.
06:03:18.940
And, you know, then we went to a bar or whatever, got a drink, and I was like, you know...
06:03:24.960
I mean, it's, like, the first, like, drink, so I'm like, I can, like, pay for my own drink.
06:03:28.380
So, then we go to another bar, and he orders us, like, these shrimps, and he's like, oh,
06:03:37.380
And so, then I'm trying to get him to take me back to my dorm, but he just, like, won't,
06:03:45.060
So, he drives around for, like, 30 more minutes.
06:03:47.780
Finally, I, like, I'm like, I have a test tomorrow, like, I really need to go back.
06:03:51.260
Takes me back to my dorm, and I'm trying to get out of the car, but then he tries to,
06:03:56.220
like, grab me for a kiss, and I'm like, oh, no, like, would you be okay with a hug?
06:04:02.220
And he got super pissed at me, and so then I was like, okay, well, I think I'm gonna go.
06:04:07.060
So, then I got out of the car, and I was walking, and he rolled down the window, and he was
06:04:16.300
So, then, and then he tried to, like, message me after and say, yeah, it was a really great
06:04:24.580
I have some thoughts on that, but before I do, guys, TTS is now 69.
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If you want to get any TTSs in, we've lowered the threshold a little bit.
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Um, so, okay, he, he was all butthurt because you turned him down.
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I mean, just, you gotta take, you gotta take the L gracefully, you know?
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If she's not into it, she's not feeling it, just.
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What do you, it's not, it's just kind of weird when girl, when, it's, it's weird when guys
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Like, you got, look, you're gonna, part of dating's rejection, like, you just gotta take
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So, when I told him about it, he was just like, oh, really?
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He's trying to colon, was he trying to colonize?
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So, so, so what he should have done is been like, oh, God, that's cringe.
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Yeah, he was a white guy, so I was like, well, maybe.
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What you said, like, didn't, it doesn't sound that bad, really.
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Like, did he want to put on a headdress and, like, let's get to business?
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I mean, I know he, like, he kept going on about it, bringing up throughout the night.
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And I just thought it was a weird thing to focus on, like, somebody's, like, race or ethnicity, that being, like, sexualized.
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He said, it's hot that you're Latina or Native American?
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So, like, what did he say, specifically, that was strange?
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And I just think it's weird when someone, like, is like, oh, I, like, hyper-focuses on that.
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It's weird because I had the exact opposite thing.
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I was dating this Native American girl, and she was really into the fact that I was white.
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Yeah, but Brian, isn't it super weird that she was fetishizing you?
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That you don't have retroactive cope about this?
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It's like, I don't know if you've seen, Andrew, have you seen American Pie?
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So at the very end, it's an almost 30-year-old movie.
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All right, Jim, he just hooked up with the band geek, and he wakes up, and she's gone.
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Her date would have agreed with anything she said about herself.
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Brixen knows that it's always the girls that he disagrees with that stare the hardest.
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Bro, you think I have these, like, fucking six, seven-hour arguments, and the girls are,
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You know, they're, like, getting me away from this toxic masculinity, bro.
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I only got eyes for one, like, if I, you know, one girl, you know?
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I saw that podcast that the girl was pursuing you.
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Are there even any good women left who want to date or serious relationship?
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I'm on lots of dating apps, and I can't get a date.
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Everyone just send me to Instagram and then try to get me on OnlyVans.
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There's lots of good girls out there, you know?
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Do you think that because of so many applications out there, dating is harder now compared to
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They're easier to have sex, but not easy to date.
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Way easier for like the top tier dudes to just run through chicks.
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But the ones who actually look in substance, it is a lot harder.
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I was going to bring back up natural body supremacist.
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Well, she said it, and you said, oh, maybe that.
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I'm not going to, because I'm not a toxic misogynist like Andrew is.
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I do have a really embarrassing story that I'm totally willing to share.
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About someone I dated, which I don't know why I thought it was a good idea.
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Um, when I was, this is, I was 18, recent, um, yeah, 18, they were 17.
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Again, don't know why I thought that was a good idea.
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Um, but this person was a very, at the time, devote, orthodox Christian.
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And I don't know, again, what the fuck was going through my mind?
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Um, but I was very much on the, you know what, this is an opportunity for me to, like,
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try, or for me to experience of a relationship in which it's, like, completely kind of emotional
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Um, but, yeah, after, like, a month, maybe week three, I was, like, bro, this sucks.
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We'd be having, like, make-out sessions and he kind of just, like, moved me on, like, kind
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Um, but, yeah, and I felt really, or I just felt super bad because he was, he was really,
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Um, and then, yeah, eventually my sister got pregnant.
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I love Andrew, but he is the whole reason I would never let my girlfriend on this show.
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He would eat her alive and she would end up crying.
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Um, yeah, so, so I kind of used that as a, like, I have to focus on my family for
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I'm just not going to be available like I am now.
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He stayed the course and he did not go through with the deed.
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He did not, which is why I don't even, like, really consider it.
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Would Brian marry if he found a woman that could give two-dimensional BJs and didn't
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Um, but this person did end up, you know, or like years later, cause he did give me some
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kind of shit when he found out I wasn't a virgin.
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This is the same person that I'm, why are you confused?
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So this is the Orthodox Christian you were with?
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Yeah, or not, he was just like, oh, it's something that I need to consider.
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So then years later, he did come back and we caught up and he did apologize for basically
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giving me kind of a bit of, a bit of shit for it or yeah, for feeling some type of way
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And he eventually, yeah, did leave the church or Orthodox is very, very strict.
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Yeah, they're like more strict than Jehovah's Witnesses.
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How are the Orthodox more strict than Jehovah's Witnesses?
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Well, there is Orthodox and there is like non-denominational.
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If you compare them, it's, you know, I was, I was born as Orthodox.
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But I'll be, you know, if you're just a baby in an Eastern European country, you're born
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And now I belong to a non-denominational that my husband introduced me to.
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So it's just the way the connection is just more understandable.
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To offend a strong individual, tell them a lie.
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To offend a weak individual, tell them the truth.
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So, so yeah, back to the, how, how would they be stricter than Jehovah's Witnesses?
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I just felt like they were more judgmental, I guess.
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But anyway, yeah, he did end up coming back, apologizing for that.
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But I just always, so Nick, why don't you do the hock-to thing, then we'll do the bow video,
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because he was asking about the marriage thing, so.
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What's one move in bed that makes a man go crazy every time?
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Oh, you gotta give him that hock-to and spit on that thing.
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Now that it took so long to get it, I don't even remember what I was, uh.
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I don't know why people are going so crazy about it.
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Like, the actual, like, that doesn't do anything.
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But she's, like, making it, like, an elaborate.
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So you're saying guys are more attracted to that and sharing that video?
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This is, this is, this is the kind of woman I want, though.
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Look, I get home from my podcast after a long day of, my dinner is ready.
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How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
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I don't think I understand what you meant by that.
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I just want to make sure you didn't have breakfast this morning.
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No, I had like a really late lunch, but I had breakfast dishy stuff for lunch.
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To the people on the panel for someone with crippling IRL social anxiety and a low opinion
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What advice would you give to try and start any sort of relationship?
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First of all, uh, I mean, if you have a war zone, work on yourself first.
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I would say, uh, I mean, one of the benefits of dating apps is that it sort of avoids you
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having to, uh, actually go up to somebody and face a potential like upfront.
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Like it to just get unmatched or rejected on a dating app is like nothing compared to an
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So, I mean, you're probably going to have to do dating apps, I guess.
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Well, if that's a man, if you're a man, you're fucked.
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So, I think for myself, like with my social anxiety, I started practicing kind of talking
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So, if I was at a store, I'd try to get at least one sentence in addition to hello or
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Do not be fucking beholden to this invention in your mind.
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You have created an identity for yourself as somebody who has crippling IRL social anxiety.
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So, don't allow yourself to be identified for the entirety of your life as I have crippling
06:24:11.540
What's the term for when you put yourself in a situation?
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People have to present themselves the right way, first of all, to get the right attention.
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I mean, to show the values of who they are, what they bring to their relationship.
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And then get attention and then talking on the video.
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If you took me to the ballet and we danced, I'd bow to him.
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You've been dating a guy for three years or whatever.
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Why would someone take you to the ballet and you would dance with them?
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You don't go to the ballet to dance with people.
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Yeah, they don't bust out a ballet disco ball or anything.
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Because he doesn't respect you or because of what reason?
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Well, because it's, again, out of respect type thing.
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I'll get everybody's answers, but I want to come back to reciprocation.
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I think the most sexy thing in a relationship is to bow to your man and make him your king.
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Well, like from my understanding, it's out of like respect type thing.
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So, if they're just like bowed to me, then it's like, do not respect me.
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I feel like I'd offer to split on the first date, for sure.
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I feel like I'd kind of interpret it like if they did make me split 50-50,
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But if they're like, oh, no, no, no, I got it, I got it.
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Have you ever, like, hooked up with somebody the same night that you met them?
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Maybe I'm not speaking about anybody here specifically.
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When I say this bow thing, people, like, get really up in arms about it, that I want a
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But you will have girls who would absolutely refuse to do a bow, who would, like, maybe
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not the first date, but, like, second, third date.
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Don't let a guy do all kinds of sexual acts, first, second, third date.
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But you won't, you object to, like, the most mild milk toast.
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I'm just laughing at the fact that she's saying it's a facial.
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I think it's degrading when you let someone do it on your face.
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In some cultures, that's what the women do when the men come from work.
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I need to get through a few more pre-show notes.
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Give me one physical thing and one, like, personality type thing.
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And then what was the other thing that I have to say?
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I like, don't laugh at me, but I like a man who has, like, a really old school chauvinist,
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Like, I like that the man would tell me what to do, where to go, how to dress.
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Like, for me, it's the most attractive thing, I think, to be submissive to my man.
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And I don't really care about the look as long as I'm attracted to him.
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That's the soy jack mean is the man bun and the neck beard and the, you know, we just kind
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I just thought about the person that I dated that I was really attracted to that had curly,
06:33:02.000
I would say, like, dark features, like, dark hair, dark eyes, and I like when a man knows
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Strong arms, specifically, forearms, every time, and a leader, for sure, a leader type.
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Man who projects safety and who is capable of making decisions.
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I'm still really confused about this man bun thing.
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Well, no, she just said curly hair, and then I was like, dude, I love when a guy has,
06:33:53.860
I could see where, like, some of them look good, but I don't...
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Yeah, no, there are very few, which is why when I see it, I'm like, oh, that's a nice
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Any race is fine, but slight preference for Asian women and white women.
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Well, you know, I date Latinos and black women, and I'll date an aboriginal woman.
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Like, it's funny telling girls 5'2", that they're too tall.
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I'm thinking about my friend who's 5'2", and she's like...
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I think of her as so small, and then thinking about someone smaller than that.
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I didn't do surgery, just injections, but I totally get what you sent.
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Okay, no fake tits, no fake lips, no BBL, no lipo, no labia...
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Do you got a preference when it comes to labia?
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I'm like, I don't know they can scratch this shit out.
06:37:01.260
But after talking to a lot of the doctors, because it is gynecologists that perform this
06:37:07.940
I learned that, unfortunately, a lot of women deal with this.
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But specifically, a lot of women, unfortunately...
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Unfortunately, a lot of women deal with either longer labia majoras or...
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A lot of women, unfortunately, deal with a lot of longer labia majoras or just unfortunately.
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Fortunately, they have large labia majoras, okay?
06:37:52.000
So, unfortunately, a lot of women deal with this and don't know how to talk about it with
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doctors, how to talk about it with family, how to talk about it with them.
06:37:58.080
They got to talk about it with me so I can talk them out of getting some fucking surgery.
06:38:02.760
With having long labias, unfortunately, it can lead to a lot of infection.
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It can lead to a lot of hygiene, things like that.
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You can see them on certain doctors' websites, but it's intended typically to help women.
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And I've met a lot of the doctors that she went through.
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They actually do it on a lot of younger girls, unfortunately.
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It's girls that were wearing skirts, tennis skirts, things like that.
06:38:51.300
I had to do a course on the face and everything.
06:38:53.440
And I didn't know that when you do that course, the nurse that gives the course, you know,
06:38:58.600
in the middle of the class, we're sitting like this, literally.
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She brought a dildo, you know, the one that bounced like that.
06:39:13.680
And then she started teaching us how to inject, how to do the massage.
06:39:17.220
After I said, I cannot do this, you know, I cannot have men coming and I inject them.
06:39:26.000
And then I had strippers asking me, do you do the vagina shots?
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That they like the outer lips to look like a bun and really, really puffy.
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There's going to be so much porn on Brian's computer.
06:40:21.680
When you inject in this area, you know, when the entrance.
06:40:24.280
On the sides, the next day when the products spread, you know, expand.
06:40:28.940
So it makes the inside to go really, really tight.
06:40:37.860
I'm just sharing just from like the basis of just like, because this is a panel of primarily
06:40:44.920
It's the removal of skin for typically the betterment of hygiene and betterment of cut.
06:40:55.280
When you do, because I remember they talked about it in the course, when you cut the downstairs,
06:40:59.320
when you cut there, it actually cause more infection.
06:41:02.220
Because when it's bigger, sometimes it's closed and it's protected.
06:41:08.320
So this is coming from what I've learned from a doctor.
06:41:11.860
But from just the simple nature, a lot of people, they get discomfort.
06:41:15.460
They get a lot of discomfort because either they're longer or anything of that form.
06:41:25.540
But to speak loud in front of people, it's not like you talk with you.
06:41:31.440
It's a little, you know, it's a little uncomfortable.
06:41:36.280
You don't know what, you don't know what, you know, pussy means.
06:41:53.500
Really quick on this whole plastic surgery thing.
06:41:59.520
This, even if a girl, let's say a girl has no boobs, flat boobs, zero boobs, or let's
06:42:16.960
They did actually a whole song and music from that.
06:42:18.960
She's dancing and her thing is butterflies like moving and shaking.
06:42:26.500
So, I prefer a girl with like a cup or no boobs over some giant, perfect, they could be
06:42:37.100
I prefer a small upper lip over the lip filler.
06:42:43.100
I prefer like a little belly fat over like the lipo, like lipo belly.
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She has to have played the cello for at least three years.
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She's done cello for, she's just under, she's only done it for two years though, so we can't
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Not, you, you're kind of a bit solipsistic where like you think everything's about you.
06:43:49.360
Her name is just really close to the word Sheena.
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Quiet, calm, soft-spoken, a little bit shy, a little bit nerdy, like that.
06:44:14.060
Doesn't party, doesn't drink, doesn't do drugs, doesn't go to bars or clubs.
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I mean, so, just makes my, I guess my mission easier.
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And, honestly, actually, don't even, actually, that would be nice, but it's not like I don't need that shit.
06:44:58.840
Brian, when you met such a woman, would you, and if she exists, and if I coach her to be that way, understanding you and everything,
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and she would be that perfect version, would you be willing to make a commitment?
06:45:17.600
But she is, well, it's like you're avoiding love and connection then.
06:45:43.380
Wait, she's literally, is it, are you talking about me?
06:45:45.720
No, I'm talking about that woman that you described.
06:45:59.360
Like, I could, she, it's not like, oh, I wouldn't tell her to her face.
06:46:28.020
That's what I wanted to say, because he was judging.
06:46:36.240
No, I mean, it's just, it's just, that's just my take.
06:46:39.220
If I was dating a girl, I wouldn't, and she's like, Brian, tell me, rate me.
06:46:52.540
You know, maybe there's like a sneaky workaround.
06:46:56.100
I think, now that I think about it, if they said rate me, I'd say, well, I'm two points
06:47:13.000
I think they'd give themselves an eight, right?
06:47:17.480
Yeah, I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I'm not getting married.
06:47:56.440
Oh, and like has to give unlimited like back scratches and massages.
06:48:03.940
I feel like I'm almost getting to the point where I'm like those delusional chicks that's
06:48:10.180
I feel it's not the same, but like, I want a guy who makes eight figures and a six, three
06:48:15.560
and is also awesome and is like two years older than me.
06:48:20.840
And what are some of the other ridiculous things like chicks want?
06:48:29.780
They want a man that's also has feminist perspective, but then suits the masculinity.
06:48:36.560
Suits their masculinity at any point that suits them in the moment and then can change it
06:48:41.440
And admires for her to achieve things and supports her in achieving and going stronger.
06:48:53.000
I'm going to try to get through all the pre-show notes and then we're going to try to wrap up
06:49:07.760
You don't have like any like crazy twerking on there or any shit.
06:49:10.700
No, I had a funny, um, crazy twerking, a funny voice thing, but we can't pull it up.
06:49:18.160
Instead of take me on an adventure, it's watch me twerk.
06:49:22.780
So boys in the chat, you see her, you see her on hinge.
06:49:35.040
The way to win me over is be yourself and upfront with your intentions.
06:49:38.700
But you're looking for a life partner and monogamy?
06:49:43.980
So it sort of just changed it and haven't looked at it too hard.
06:49:51.300
So if a guy was upfront with his intentions and he's like, I just want to have sex with
06:49:55.160
you once and never talk to you again, would that work?
06:50:05.840
But I feel like girls say be upfront with your intentions.
06:50:11.120
Like I'll see if it's something that I'd be interested in as long as you tell me the truth.
06:50:16.100
But like, I don't think that I would just hook up with someone and then, yeah.
06:50:47.680
All right, boys, do you swipe yes or do you swipe no?
06:50:49.860
And then, uh, let's see what else we, okay, I just need to get through these super quick.
06:50:54.020
Uh, Andrew and, uh, Michaela, you guys are going to have a five minute, I give you guys
06:51:01.340
Uh, you say you're a Christian who doesn't believe in going to church.
06:51:06.880
Um, yeah, actually, personally, I don't go to church unless there, there's more to it.
06:51:12.840
Unless I found a small church that was not, didn't start turning into like a lights, camera
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action, smoke show, which is what I've seen in every church I've attended.
06:51:25.120
But I don't believe nobody should go to church.
06:51:35.680
Orthodox Christianity, even though I know that requires going to a church, but I don't.
06:51:40.740
So then you don't practice Orthodox Christianity?
06:51:44.980
I have my faith based on the Bible and the traditions of the Orthodox Church minus.
06:51:54.740
There are no, there are no Orthodox Churches within where I live, somewhere I can go, and
06:52:06.160
First, I don't believe that there's no Orthodox Churches anywhere where you live.
06:52:10.260
In, in, yes, of course, in Seattle, there's Orthodox Churches.
06:52:15.020
No, I said within a distance that I can make it.
06:52:19.840
I work every single day of the week except for Monday.
06:52:22.900
If you're in Seattle right now, you're in California, correct?
06:52:27.180
That seems like that's a distance that you can make.
06:52:29.380
Yeah, yeah, and I could do it one time, but I couldn't commit to it.
06:52:37.120
I would have no problem visiting here and there, but it has to be a place that my husband
06:52:58.660
So I took on the belief as an Orthodox Christian relatively recently.
06:53:05.820
It was probably during, like, the pandemic years is when I shifted.
06:53:10.100
I grew up a Christian, non-denominational, and I was baptized through that.
06:53:15.580
So I didn't go and get re-baptized, specifically.
06:53:22.560
If you weren't chrismated, you weren't baptized into the church, you're not an Orthodox.
06:53:25.640
I suppose, then, I consider myself that, and I'm not officially a member of the Orthodox Church.
06:53:34.400
Well, okay, well, I consider, hang on, I consider myself Wolverine.
06:53:38.700
I have claws that come out of my hands, and I can cut cars in half.
06:53:44.940
You can consider yourself that, but if you weren't chrismated into the church,
06:53:48.560
you weren't baptized into the church, you weren't accepted into the Orthodox Church,
06:53:55.300
Where on earth did you ever get the idea that you were?
06:53:59.960
But until we found a place that, you know, suited him, my husband, and myself, then...
06:54:14.280
It's just the belief system, I suppose, and the general traditionalism of it.
06:54:24.380
You cannot believe you're a part of the church, right?
06:54:36.300
You have to be accepted after you go through a catechesis.
06:54:41.900
You don't wake up one morning and go, oh, well, I'm an Orthodox Christian now.
06:54:51.980
I guess I suppose that's the next step, then, in order for it to be official.
06:54:55.260
I think it's just observing the lifestyle and the tradition and the values is more of where
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we align ourselves, and I suppose we would need to get officially baptized.
06:55:10.460
Listen, you can't align yourself with the values of the church without being part of the body
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I'm going to explain it to you so that you know.
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Part of this is going through your catechesis and understanding what it is that your duties
06:55:29.640
Being a part of that parish and contributing heavily to that parish, that is your duty as
06:55:36.700
It's not a, I get to pick and choose what I like.
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You are, in fact, 100,000% not, not an Orthodox Christian.
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You should not be identifying yourself that way, right?
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What you're doing by identifying yourself as an Orthodox Christian without being one,
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You're not inducted in the church and you're calling yourself an Orthodox Christian.
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Did I or did I not just say, I hear what you're saying and I guess that would be what
06:56:27.460
Yeah, but you started the conversation by saying you're an Orthodox Christian.
06:56:29.840
Right, and then we went through it and then I said, I suppose you're right and that's
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what we would need to do to be Orthodox Christians.
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So by saying, by even identifying yourself as an Orthodox, Eastern Orthodox Christian,
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you're telling the world, I'm inducted into the church, you're spreading false beliefs.
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You got the idea that it's okay to say that you're an Orthodox Christian when you're not.
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I'm not leading anybody into any kind of pathway that's anti-biblical, so...
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If you talk about your religious beliefs publicly and your beliefs publicly and you identify
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as an Orthodox Christian, are people not going to take those set values and identify them
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Yes, well, then that would be you spreading heresy.
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Well, like I said, again, I heard your point and I said, I suppose that would be the next
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step in order for it to be proper, so I hear what you're saying.
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But I don't think there's going to be any issue as I don't publicly admit, besides this
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one instance where I've been asked, I don't publicly discuss my denomination or what I believe
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Listen, it's just so you understand in the future, too, okay?
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And I want you to be an Orthodox Christian, okay?
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But it's not a thing which is supposed to be trendy.
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That is our primary, and we are there to serve the church.
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And through serving the church, we can go through the process for theosis.
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When I went through catechesis, I was corrected many, many, many times on the things that I said,
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It's just specifically, don't worry, it's not a joke to me either, just because I had
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But it is good to have a discussion, as I don't know in real life any other orthodox,
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So it's a discussion that's interesting to have.
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But I never said it was a joke, and I don't think it's funny, and I wasn't trying to get cute.
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I wasn't trying to get trendy, and I'd have to say, it's not a trend at all.
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All right, final thoughts from both of you on that, and I do have to move it along.
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As an inquirer, you should move over to become a catechumen,
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and then you should be baptized into the church, or chrismated.
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They may accept your baptism from your former church.
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I don't know your personal situation, but you don't publicly say ever
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that you're an orthodox Christian if you haven't been chrismated or baptized
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Or if that's just, it would be fundamentally not true at all.
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And then for Oksana, you said you wanted to talk about, like,
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And so I guess, like, why would anyone need a matchmaker
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when there's, like, all these dating apps and stuff?
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Well, I asked you a question if the dating is actually became easier,
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So, and it is, there is such a variety of personals that is out there
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that how much time you actually invest in trying to figure out who is who,
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So, number one point is when my clients come to us, to me, to my service,
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When you're forming the relationship, understanding where your partner is coming from.
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I mean, I can give you an example in my personal, in my marriage.
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When we started dating, me and my husband, I mean, I know what hunger is,
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So, for me, food is, it's not like a luxury or whatever.
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So, when I made him one of the first dinners, he was expecting something really special.
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So, when I made a steamed salmon with, like, nutrition, you know, and nutritious,
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So, if communication would not be there to discuss, like, what is our background,
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then we definitely, that would be the recipe for breakup, right?
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So, knowing the background, I mean, for you, when you're trying to meet someone special,
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will take you months and months and months to figure out just that background.
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And for her to know all of your details and your background before you guys actually have
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interaction, it will set you so many steps ahead that your first interaction is going
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But it is very hard to navigate the world out there.
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You know, what I am very passionate about is coaching women.
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Like, if I created that ideal version of that woman that you described, because she has the
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But if she doesn't know what you want, how she can be that for you?
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But for the woman to get the full understanding what her potential man needs and understanding
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his background, so it eliminates judgment of his actions, she understands where it is coming
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The matchmaker can save lots and lots of time to prepare the ideal woman, to coach that woman,
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to help you navigate, you know, even the choices.
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So, what you're saying is that you are prepared to present me with beautiful, early 20s, big
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Well, would you be willing to make a commitment to that special woman?
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You have to be willing to have sex with me within the first three dates, too.
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So, how can you get to the point of really sustainable relationship?
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There is a difference between sex and making love.
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But to connect emotionally is critically important for sustainable relations.
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If it is based on just pure sex, it will not sustain.
07:05:18.580
Andrew, I'm personally spending $30 to send this message.
07:05:24.860
Read Alan Carr's book, Easy Way to Quit Smoking.
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So, just to swange your fears, I have a quit date near the end of the year.
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Guys, so, I have it paused temporarily, but then I'll allow them to come through.
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We'll do a quick roast segment if you guys want to do any roasting.
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So, I can start reviewing them because they are all...
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Even if you're not in love, you're making love?
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No, making love, it is not just the physical aspect.
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The guys who are having a bunch of girls, they are having sex with the same woman all the time.
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The man who is, or woman and man together, when they're growing through the challenges, overcoming them together, each person is transitioning through this experience.
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We change as we go through life, through the challenges, and we are supporting our partner.
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Every five years, we become a different person.
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Biologically, neurosciencely, in every aspect, every five years, you...
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But when you're growing together as a couple and supporting each other, and you're overcoming conflicts, I mean, the couple can either fall apart over the conflicts, or they can actually come out even stronger if they're working together, if they're supporting each other and working together on finding the solution.
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So, I mean, that's the beauty of true committed relationship.
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So, what you're saying, just having sex, it is a physical aspect, okay?
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That doesn't take a very special person, whether it is a man or a woman.
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But what it takes a very special person is to be able to open up your heart, the whole vulnerability, all of the pain, all of the fears, and be able to share that with your partner.
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So, the physical aspect becomes making love if all of the other things are connected.
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In our generation, it's right what you're saying, but in their generation, it's completely different.
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We are mingled with different people than they are mingled.
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Well, in my service, I am raising such a woman, because women, they come to me, they're paying me money because they want to learn what it is to be.
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But it's a small quantity compared to what you see.
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I will work with a small quantity that makes significant changes in men's life.
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No, but what I'm trying to say, he's the type of person, he's not an average guy.
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He see, on a weekly basis, hundreds of women in his podcast, all colors, all shapes, all ages.
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You see, he would be infected by, if the woman is really, the dirt and garbage on the inside, he would be infected by that.
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I think because he see a lot of women every week, okay, his perspective completely changed from another man who doesn't see.
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He can pick more versus when he was younger, before he did the podcast, that he saw small quantity of women.
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No, no, I'm not saying that you, you don't understand.
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10%, no, sorry, like 14% body fat, fucking shredded.
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But if you would be surrounded by women who actually, happiness and joy and would be supporting him and everything, he would be just totally different even today.
07:09:43.640
Hey, how many years you've been doing the podcast?
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Wait, I don't know how you looked before, but for me personally, I'd rather have a man in your size than somebody who's like skinny and like super skinny and small.
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The ones who I continue working with even after marriage, they are staying married for their, well, my oldest case is close to 30 years.
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I do not, I have a, I call myself qualified by experience.
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You know, when I'm, I started being, it was not my choice, but I was 16 years old when I started working with people.
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I had no idea about relationship myself, but as I go through different stories and different circumstances, it helps me grow.
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So every client who invites me into their life, in their traumas, in their fears, in their, I am learning and growing with them together.
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And it is very, very intimate connection, you know, to...
07:11:02.300
Can't they, they look, a lot of the people from Kazakhstan, they look Asian, right?
07:11:10.720
I know, I know, but the character was Kazakhstan.
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Could you get me linked up with like a, like Asian Kazakhstani woman?
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What is there, do they have a name like between like the white Kazakhstan?
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So they speak Russian language and Kazakh language, but they do have looks of, you know, Asian looks.
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I would get you a really fantastic girl and I'll coach her.
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If you would be willing to eventually shift your mind to their commitment.
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And it would be a special woman who absolutely will value everything.
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I know you've got a lot of beautiful Russian ladies, but I insist that she's an Asian Kazakhstan-y woman.
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When I meet her, she has to be wearing traditional Kazakh dress.
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A lot of people from Sovetsky Soyuz are like a little bit Asian and Mongol.
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Oh, Gene has gone, did a little bit of a number on everyone.
07:13:50.180
Yeah, but I have lots of clients who actually were born Muslims, but they convert to be Christians.
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A lot of them convert either to Judaism or Christianity.
07:14:14.080
Ladies, knowing Brian is a midget-loving post-op trans man, would you date him knowing he still
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I guess he's just asking if you would date me, I guess.
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You're a good person, but I think you're, like, everything we say, we, like, first you go
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Well, he did say he was playing the devil's advocate.
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But I think deep down, underneath all these layers, you're a really deep, sensitive person.
07:15:14.800
Yeah, it's not fair to ask the people in, like, relationships.
07:15:26.220
Brian, you say you need to lose weight nearly every show.
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But I saw you and Cindy together at In and Out the other night.
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Brian, we are disappointed by your lack of deep emotional connection with us.
07:15:48.000
When will you mail the autographed blue-white cup with certificate of authenticity?
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I identify as an orthodox Apache attack helicopter.
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Soy, soy, soy, soy, soy, soy, soy, soy, soy, soy, soy, soy, soy, soy, soy, soy, soy, soy, soy, soy, soy, soy, soy, soy, soy, soy, soy, soy, soy, soy.
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Women claim I'm funny, likable, nice, chivalrous, but there's no chemistry.
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Getting tired of hearing that, what do you ladies mean with that?
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I think he should stay authentic himself if he is nice because it is just a matter of kind and loving woman to recognize those qualities.
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You know, playing and being somebody that you are not is not going to get you anywhere.
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Eventually, your true personality is going to come out.
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I feel like there's too much product in Andrew's hair for that to move.
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They're not used to women actually, like, worshipping them.
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To answer your question, though, your hair is a little bit shiny.
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That's why it looks like there's product in it.
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I want to say that, Andrew, even if you look messy, you're attractive just because you're
07:19:05.340
Yeah, but this whole chemistry thing, you claim you're funny, likable, nice, shavorous,
07:19:16.140
Oh, he's tall, handsome, kind, generous, all this shit, good personality, but you just didn't
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She just straight up didn't like you, but she's trying to be nice about it, so she's telling
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you somewhat good qualities about you to cop out.
07:19:33.240
I'm sure you girls have met a guy who's like, he checks all the boxes, but...
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He doesn't check one box from being mean to her.
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Yeah, I just need a little bit to round it out.
07:19:48.020
Well, no, chemistry can go for the way he dresses, for the way he smells, for the way
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he carries communication, and for the way, like, does he have confidence or not?
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Don't you agree that a lot of women pick their men?
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Either they all of a sudden attracted to him when they know he's really rich, or if he's
07:20:09.900
being a bastard and mean to them, so they really, really like him.
07:20:33.180
For all you girls who say, I met a guy, he checks all the boxes, but just didn't feel
07:20:36.940
the click, that would be like a guy saying, she's beautiful, great body, perfect boobs,
07:20:42.400
perfect butt, feminine, submissive, virgin, kind, nurturing.
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There's the unexpected boxes that you don't know.
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Why do women espouse this once you meet the magic one crap?
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I feel like they think that they're just going to know immediately.
07:21:30.120
He just needs them to fill seats on his degenerate show.
07:21:34.440
Hey, Lol Paladins, I thought you were the homie.
07:22:12.540
This green grandma has offered terrible advice,
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Just remember it isn't the journey that matters.
07:25:43.520
Probably what do you think the average size is?
07:27:01.040
Yeah, you should probably look at it instead of look at it in the...
07:27:20.160
Being attracted to a man with a peen or a woman with a peen?
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It's unanswerable because you're asking the same question.
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I love how we're all like, maybe a little lower.
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Also, Google the average because I'm really curious.
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If younger and single, I'd be interested in you.
07:29:20.680
We're going to raid Aladar, Nick, if you can get them pulled up.
07:29:23.000
But final thoughts from anybody before I wrap the show?
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We're not doing, we're not, like, really doing raids.
07:29:40.680
No, I thought you were going to kill me, but you were okay.
07:29:48.720
I mean, at least we're hitting towards that direction.
07:29:54.980
I think everybody brought something, made a conclusion.
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Of what was sure to be a very good back and forth with Andrew and them.
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But knowing that their defeat was imminent, they rather...
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They tucked tail and scurried out of here like the cowards they are back to their imaginary country.
07:30:41.940
Did they really fly all the way over here just to...
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They said specifically they came here for this.
07:31:16.800
But then they're like, can we come on another day?
07:31:20.220
And then they kind of were goblins because they got the good show with Charlie.
07:31:24.280
And they didn't stay for the show where it was not.
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If you know any big labia-Kazic women, just let me know.
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Because I'm still struggling to understand what big is.
07:31:52.540
Yo, everybody in the chat, there's this girl, Mackenzie Carter Cameron.
07:31:57.560
Brian, how do you live in California yet still look like proper trailer trash?
07:32:03.960
Boys, you guys got to go in on Mackenzie Carter Cameron.
07:32:42.240
I don't know if you're still here, but really appreciate all your support tonight, man.
07:32:48.320
Guys, it's been 43 minutes since we had a prime.
07:33:03.240
Maddie, are you going to be streaming tomorrow?
07:33:17.780
Those of you who are watching on Twitch, we're going to do a raid here in just a moment.
07:33:26.480
Mia, I'd like to end the show by seeing if we can't use this as a moment, as an opportunity
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With the support of the Whatever Podcast, we will help you.
07:33:57.020
Do you agree to go get your phone and delete your OnlyFans right now?
07:34:15.140
You could make millions by leading other girls that were doing OnlyFans and become an advocate
07:34:36.420
Brian, can I sing a little song that I wrote here?
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I was writing this song while we were having the conversation.
07:35:22.560
You want to hear a song and then it goes right to you?
07:35:37.400
You guys have to edit it for me and send it to me.
07:35:55.960
I swear I'm going to stream it on my social media.
07:36:08.440
I mean, before I even played the song, I already got like in.
07:36:29.420
I swear to God, I'm going to put it on my Instagram.
07:36:53.100
Michaela, fellow WA resident here, what watch you rocking today?
07:37:03.340
We'll give, we will give Mia a job at the whatever podcast if she agrees to delete her
07:37:46.180
An opportunity to, for the quality man, to actually appreciate the transformation that
07:37:57.180
Or you can continue down the dark road that you're going on.
07:38:18.620
I've never said I was going to do this forever.
07:38:22.060
Anyways, so with that said, we're going to do a Twitch raid.
07:38:59.000
Everyone in the panel, I don't take any of this personally.
07:39:01.920
To Gal in the Red, I truly hope you visit an Orthodox church.
07:39:05.200
And I'm sure that we can help you find a sponsor if you'd like to.
07:39:09.660
And I think that you and your husband would really enjoy it.
07:39:23.520
You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
07:39:27.000
Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports the show.
07:39:31.920
Well, Maddie's going to do a stream on Twitch, twitch.tv slash whatever, tomorrow.
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Sunday with our next dating talk, 5 p.m. Pacific.
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Any girls who want to be on the show, DM out whatever.
07:39:40.560
On Instagram, if you can make it to Santa Barbara, we're going to do a Twitch raid to Aladar.
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And a lot of guilds that are still known to this team.
07:39:59.880
Tell him that he has to go into the ocean here next to Ratchet.
07:40:10.980
Tell him when you go over there, boys, and we raid him, that he has to drown his own character.
07:40:16.860
But that's one of a lot of these players that you're...
07:40:23.880
Tell him that he has to go drown this character right now.
07:41:09.900
Why is everyone wanting me to drown my character?
07:41:26.900
Okay, if Brian says so, we'll drown the character.