2 WALK OFFS？! MEGA Woke Feminists DEBATE Brian？! 3 Men In ONE NIGHT？! HORSE GIRLS! ｜ Dating Talk 276
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On this episode of Whatever, the crew talks about labia shaming, the Beko Boys, Kanye West, and much more. Plus, we have some merch for you guys! Thanks to our sponsor, Shop Whatever.
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I probably now have beef with the rival gang, I guess.
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I'm the founder of the nonprofit and grassroots movement,
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But yeah, none of that wizard sleeve beef curtains roast beef roasties Arby's talk.
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And as someone who only dates women with large labia,
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Sometimes I even cry at night thinking about it.
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You know, who knows what's going to go on with Venezuela.
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All the stuff with ICE and immigration and what else?
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The war in Ukraine and then the Middle East and not.
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But really, labiaplasty is the pressing issue of our time.
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All that other stuff is just like psyop noise bullshit.
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We frequently, you know, we deal with a lot of flakes.
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And so we are going to publish at the beginning of the year.
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I just realized if a digit was off, that would have been really bad.
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I don't know how these intros have become 10 minutes long at this point.
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You need to either live or be able to make it to Santa Barbara every Sunday.
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And then position two, a new soldier side kick.
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You just wear a soldier uniform and you stand in the background of the shot.
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Okay, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce...
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I should have had the exposure down the whole time.
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And obviously, fucking amateur hour here at the Whatever Podcast.
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We're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
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I have been for the last three years, three and a half years now.
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And I'm in school for political science right now.
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I'm minoring in business and health and wellness.
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And this is your third appearance on the show, I think.
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I also, I think you went, I don't know if viral is the right word.
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There was a video of you, and I was actually trying to find it, but I couldn't find it.
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I don't remember who the speaker was, but it was right after Charlie Kirk got shot.
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So at my school, we had this spirit rock situation and, uh, there was a memorial for
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Charlie Kirk on the rock turning point made this whole thing about it at the school.
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There was a lot of students in opposition to that, um, to the memorialization of Charlie
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Uh, turning point also ended up bringing that guy, the speaker to the school.
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He was platforming on, um, abortionist murder, LGBTQIA is like degrading our society, whole
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bunch of like mega conservative, um, fundamentalist ideology that he was speaking on, that he had
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It was within like a couple of weeks to a month after the, was it my, was it Myron?
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I don't remember what his name was, but I saw the posts, the, the, um, what he was going
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to be talking about the brochure type of situation on Instagram.
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Does anybody in the, can somebody in the chat tell me, was it Alex Stein?
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Can somebody in the chat tell me who Steven Crowder?
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Can somebody in the chat or somebody in the discord find me the clip?
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I'm a personal assistant for a realtor and I'm in school for political science.
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Anything where I can help people is kind of my goal.
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And are you, just going back to you really quick, are you in your third year, fourth year,
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It was, I took like two years as a gap year after my associates.
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Going back to you, so I noticed you describe yourself as a human rights advocate.
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When you say you're a human rights advocate, which human rights do you advocate for?
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Like, I'm all for everyone has the right to be who they are and do what they want to do.
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What's a men's rights thing you've advocated for recently?
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What's a women's rights thing you've advocated for recently?
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Well, I'm very strong on the not banning abortion and stuff.
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I've been doing a lot of other protests and stuff with all the ICE raids and stuff.
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So kind of anything I see that I feel strongly about, I will join in.
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And you, I think you have a blue sky, which I took a, I took a look at.
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We'll get into all that stuff a little bit later in the show after all the introductions.
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I thought I flew into Seattle with how rainy it was.
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Um, I do OF, social media, all that good stuff.
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Well, actually, actually, actually, as I said last time, half and half where I am not educated
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and I don't participate enough to actually consider myself a Christian, but I like to believe
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Well, on your, on your TikTok, you, you have an emoji of a cross.
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I, I, I try to have Christian values in my life, but she's trying her best, but I think
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it's a really big label to call yourself a Christian.
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There are certain things that you follow and certain things that you do.
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So I think it would be really bold of me to say I am a Christian, a devout Christian, but
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And I'm actually going to start school like literally tomorrow.
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I got a major, majored in human biology, mitered in something with like, um, healthcare studies.
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And then now I'm going back to school as a nursing student.
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Um, I'm in school, um, majoring in addictive disorder studies.
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Uh, I'll just, I'll give you a little prompt occupation, where you're from.
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And I'm just a student worker at Oxnard College right now.
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I think it was like, I was a year and a half in.
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But you also have, come on, you gotta, hey, you guys gotta, you ride horses too, right?
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This is gonna, I was worried about the feminists and the liberal women, but it's the horse girls
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That's like, how many hundreds of thousands of dollars?
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But if you do girl math, then it really isn't anything.
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Was your dad, typically it's the father that pays for the horses.
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So, that's funny because, um, my father died when I was five, so.
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I take them off the racetrack and retrain them and sell them for regular riding horses.
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It's like flipping houses, but flipping horses.
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How much do you think total throughout the course of your life you've spent on horse-related
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Well, they're each about like 400 to 800 a month if you own, have them at your house to
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If I had to guess, it'd probably be like, it's like 10 grand a month right now.
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So, once you start boarding, I have four that are boarded right now, and I pay like 1,200
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But now you're not really focused on the horses too much.
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I forget what my real, what actually makes me money is sometimes, so.
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Here, I'm going to find the link, but while we're waiting on that, why don't we have you
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Well, I'm 18, and I'm an OC, Mission Viejo, local, and I'm running my own clothing brand.
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It's going to drop soon, and I'm a marketing major.
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I work as a front desk receptionist at a stone fabrication company, and I'm Leah's assistant,
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Yeah, it was my first language, and then I learned English in school.
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And as of right now, I'm doing college mythology, so hair and makeup, nails.
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But on the side, I cosplay, model, and I recently started making music.
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I don't know if you guys have ever heard of, like, Osamuelson.
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But think of, like, underground rap, like, beats and stuff like that.
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I so want to play it, but we'd probably get a copyright strike.
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So I was noticing, I looked at your TikTok, that it's very focused.
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Click on the first one, and we'll just, like, swipe through.
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So click, and then you'll hit the arrow, and then we'll do two, three seconds each.
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Or, you know, you could look at Beethoven, some of his symphonies.
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Like, you know, people might debate which one is Beethoven's magnum opus.
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Of all your videos on TikTok, which would you say is your magnum opus?
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Do you think that within your lifetime of art creation, there will be another, like,
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If I hand you my phone, you know what the deal is.
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I feel like there had to have been a couple times, like...
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Before we get into everybody's relationship status, I wanted to touch base on people's
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And you're studying political science, you said?
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And you just had, you know, I guess it was winter break, when's school start up again
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Not this upcoming week, but the following Monday.
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So maybe like two or three weeks ago, you took your finals or whatever.
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I took Introduction to Sociology, Urbanization, and like, yeah, just the development of American
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And then just my Introduction to Political Science.
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Can you tell me, you can pick from any one of those four classes.
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Can you tell me the biggest takeaway from any of those classes that you learned?
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It would be hard for me to do a biggest takeaway, because all of these classes had a lot of overlap
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in material, and sometimes I was learning the same thing in different classes, like I said, because there was an overlap.
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What was interesting, I think that stands out right now, is in my Global Capitalism and its Discontents, people were upset at capitalism from the very beginning.
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Capitalism used to be considered a slur or a harsh word to use in opposition to the system, and from the very beginning, early transition into capitalism.
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So, I thought that was really interesting, and that kind of stuck with me for a little bit, the fact that people hated it from the beginning.
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So, we transitioned from the feudal system and to capitalism.
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Not like looking for a precise year, but like decade or...
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Can't quote me on this, but I would say maybe...
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If I were to guess, maybe about 1300s, but then there was early markets before then, probably.
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I mean, I guess also it would depend, geographically speaking, certain countries or regions got, you know, degrees of capitalism or full-blown capitalism or, you know, however you want to categorize it.
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A lot of the class focused on Western countries.
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So, like Britain and, you know, other European countries were based on it.
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I don't know the answer, but my hunch is it's ended much later than that.
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I don't even know the answer, so I'm not going to be like debate you on that.
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The takeaway was people didn't like capitalism.
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Do you think we would be better in a feudal system?
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So, the big takeaway was people don't like capitalism from your...
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It was called Global Capitalism and Its Discontents.
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Is your school a private school or a public school?
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He did give us supportive readings, but no textbook.
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And last semester, I only took, like, the random classes that I needed.
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Well, it was just, wasn't it just, like, a couple weeks ago you took the class?
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But I honestly don't know that much about philosophy.
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But there must have been some sort of towards-the-end-of-the-year project, you know, an essay or something, right?
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Is there anything you can tell me from that class?
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I have a really hard time, like, with the style of writing and philosophy.
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Any other philosophers besides Marx that you can remember?
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I can tell you about cool boats I had to look at in my art class.
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If I were to ask you, what was the, of, you can pick any of the disciplines that you were
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Uh, what's, like, one big takeaway that you could relay to us that you learned about?
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Um, I think that everybody should know about Narcan and how to use it.
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Um, it's a little nasal sprayer, an injection, um, that can reverse an opioid overdose.
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And it's really easy to get, and you can get it for free a lot of places.
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And this is something that you learned in one of your classes?
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Uh, harm reduction resources is a big part of my, um, major.
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Um, and Narcan is something that can save people's lives and has saved people's lives
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and even has saved the lives of friends that I have in my life.
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Um, I think it's something everybody should know about.
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Uh, like, geology, philosophy, like, English, math.
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Of all the classes you took, relay to us one thing that you learned.
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Like, have you seen, like, one, like, sport car or anything like that?
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Well, I mean, that, that wouldn't be my primary criticism of college, the cars in which the
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But, uh, I mean, you do raise an interesting thought, though, is, uh, a lot of the teachers,
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So, it's, like, at least as it relates to, like, marketing and business and these sorts
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of disciplines, a lot of them were not particularly successful in the private sector.
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Yes, but I am being, I'm exclusive with this person.
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So, technically, yeah, but I'm, I'll act like that.
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If some really hot guy approached you and hit on you, what would you, like, would you
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What's the longest relationship you've ever been in?
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Um, because I did not have great taste in men as a teenager, and it was not a very healthy
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It's basically like bisexual, but it's considered to be a little bit more expansive.
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So you'll date trans people, essentially, and men and women and?
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I've only dated men, uh, as far as experience, but I think I've found myself attracted to transgender
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Attracted to them, but, uh, you've not been intimate or dated somebody of the, uh, a woman
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No, I mean, they're obviously nice guys all the time, but nobody.
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But nobody that, no, I don't call anybody my boyfriend or anything.
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It's a long story, but pretty much, um, he was Japanese.
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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Wait, no, I'm not trying to say, no, no, no, no, no.
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I'm just saying like, you know, like, you know, like the context, you need to know the context.
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Wait, he wasn't, he was, like, he wasn't Japanese-American.
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Because a lot of Japanese people moved to Brazil, I believe, like a long time ago.
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So dad is full Japanese, mom, Brazilian Japanese, but she was born in Japan.
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Her grandparents, like, or grandma immigrate from Brazil to Japan.
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But, okay, what, what's that have to do, I guess, with the breakup?
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Okay, um, he basically, I left him with so much story, backstory to tell, but the sum
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of it, sum it up all, like, he physically abused me.
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When he was studying abroad here, he got deported.
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Was he, like, so, was he an illegal immigrant, or?
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But he didn't have citizenship here, I'm assuming.
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And he needed to go back to his country for his sister's wedding.
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When he came back, um, he wasn't answering none of my calls and wasn't texting, nothing.
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I called the flight, and they basically said, he's, there's a plane that's from L.A. going
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Um, she's, like, or they were, like, saying, like, basically, oh, they have insufficient,
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And then later that night, he basically calls me, and he's, like, I'm going back to Japan.
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Japan, I'm, like, um, you got to propose for me to live Japan, because I, I've been
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It's, it's fun visiting there, but living there, it's not my cup of tea.
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Um, I didn't have friends, because a lot of, like, I did have Japanese friends in Tokyo,
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The second time that I went to Japan, I stayed there for one month, because I wanted to
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Like, basically, in Japan, a lot of people, like, Japanese girls.
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So, basically, he physically abused me in the train.
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And, let me tell you, in that area, there's no tourist.
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They don't want to involve themselves, basically.
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Um, meeting the parents in Japan basically means, like, it's super serious.
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You're about, like, you know, he wants to engage.
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Uh, it's never acceptable to lay your hands on anybody.
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Like, I'm just trying to understand, like, was this, like, he had a psychotic break and
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So, I was going to get to the story that we went to his friend's house.
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And, um, he was dating a Japanese girl during that time.
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They were together and then once the dinner was over, we went outside and it was pouring
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And in Japan, it's summertime, super humid, rains a lot.
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So, I was under his umbrella and my ex didn't have an umbrella.
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And I told the homie, I'm like, hey, uh, what's your friend do?
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Like, your friend, like, why is he acting like that?
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And then, that's when he literally blew up on the train on me.
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Like, why the fuck are you, like, why were you walking next to him?
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Definitely a perfectly justified reason to end a relationship.
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So there is a guy in the picture, but you guys aren't anything.
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Well, um, you know, like, probably like, starts with a three.
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Actual, not like troll answer, like legit answer?
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Okay, so, but you're not sleeping with all those guys, I'm assuming?
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But, but they all know, it's, I'm not, you know, I'm not twisting words.
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So, of any of these guys who you are free agenting with, what's the longest period of
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time of a guy who you're currently seeing that you've been hanging out with?
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So, it's been complicated with somebody for five years.
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What's the longest relationship, uh, you've ever been in?
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At any point, have you guys been boyfriend, girlfriend?
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How many times has it been on again, off again?
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Oh, he tries to get back with you and you get back with him?
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Um, I feel like it's, I am a very hardworking person.
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So if somebody else doesn't step up to my level of hard work, it, I don't even care what you
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So if you're not stepping up, if, if you have an ounce of lazy in you, you're out of
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Um, uh, quick question, just unrelated to this.
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I can take them off, but I won't be able to see you.
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If, if you need them, just leave them on the table next to you.
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I mean, you can leave them on if you want to, but if you don't really need them, you
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But you're, you're, you're dealing with other dudes?
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Pretend I'm a new addition to your roster of 30.
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So when you say that you're honest with them, let's role play it.
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How many other men are you currently having sexual intercourse with?
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Like, I don't, I'm not with 30 people at a time.
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Well, what's the, I don't have time for all that.
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You, everyone just thought I was being with 30 men right now.
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I mean, right now in this moment, I'm going to have to say zero.
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Would you say it's fair to say there have been periods where you have had, I'm not saying
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you'd sleep with all of them, but you've had multiple guys in the picture at the same
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Maybe you're dating, you know, I'm not saying you're sleeping with them.
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But so like when you say you're, you're open with the people that you are dating and
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I'm assuming maybe you are sleeping with at least one of them, perhaps at a different
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point in time, what are you, when you say you're open with them, what do you tell them?
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I just say, listen, we're again, going to keep this casual.
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Well, you tell them that, but you give them more detail.
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No, but are you like, like, all right, if, if Brad wants to see you on Friday,
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Seinfeld on, uh, on, on Wednesday, maybe give it another day.
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Well, of course, but some guys are okay with that.
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And do you think they're also seeing other women too?
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I don't mean to sound like a pick me, but like, I've, I've genuinely never had a roster.
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What is like, when you say roster, do you mean just like guys that you can like hit up
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Or are you, I get that part, but are you sexually active with the X amount of men at this, obviously
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Like one month I'll, it's not like, oh my God, like, let me call at nine Oh five.
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Uh, well, I guess longest period of time you've been involved with any guy, whether it was
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I mean, I'm not like the best at it, but yeah, I try.
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I, you were about to say something and I slightly cut you off.
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I'm like, I'm just like, I just believe in God.
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Well, Orthodox is really specific, but when you do go to church, you go to a Orthodox church.
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Or just a regular, like Christian church, I guess.
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Oh, at least if you're Orthodox, I think you would know.
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Well, like Sundays, I go to like an Orthodox church.
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Uh, but the church you go to, do you go with your parents?
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Uh, do you like, how many times have you been to Egypt?
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I've heard, um, have you enjoyed, have you liked being in Egypt?
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I've heard some not so great things to be honest.
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Cause you don't want to be a tourist in like a place where like tourists, tourists aren't
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Oh, cause it, cause it's, Egypt is a Muslim country.
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I've heard some not so, like for, regardless of your religion, I've heard some.
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Uh, let me, we're going to get into our first thing here.
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I was going to begin with our good friend in chair one, but I think she, she stepped away
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You described yourself as a Gemini sun, a Taurus moon and a cancer rising.
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Like when you asked her if she was a Taurus or not, that's what your sun sign is.
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Um, your moon is where the moon was at the time of your birth and you're rising.
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I actually did some research because I was curious what that meant, um, is what astrological
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sign was rising over the Eastern horizon at the time of your birth.
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I think it's been practiced across multiple cultures for thousands of years.
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Um, the, uh, I guess analysis that I have is more Western astrology.
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It's, you can do like little personality, personality analyses based off of it.
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And you also write, you're a spiritual gal and aspiring advocate.
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You also describe yourself as an activist on your podcast page.
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I have described myself on the, on this podcast previously as a communist.
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Um, I still have similar, like whenever I dream of this utopia, I don't see it with there
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Um, just like whenever you imagine like heaven, there's no money, there's no like job.
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Uh, socialism as Marx put it, I believe, um, socialism would be kind of a step to communism.
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Um, communism would probably be the closest way for me to describe what my utopia would
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I engage in capitalism outside of the strip club.
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Well, you have to, yeah, you have to, but, but there could be circumstances in which, uh,
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beyond just providing for your sort of, uh, basic necessity needs, like, couldn't you maybe
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Like, do you give strip club coupons or I don't discounts like you at the strip club?
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Now, even in a capitalist system, you could still not strictly aim to maximize profits.
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Like you could strike some sort of balance between being able to provide for yourself,
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but also, you know, um, not maximizing profits like landlords can still landlords don't
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And, uh, maybe they might prioritize, like, I want to secure a really good tenant and I
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can do this perhaps if, uh, or they keep an existing tenant, they don't raise the prices
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on them because they're a really good tenant, even though they could maximize profits by
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Um, but so why don't you practice it to some degrees?
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I'm not expecting you to like fucking live on the street.
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But you could give a bit of leeway at the strip club, like give a little bit of a discount
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at the strip club as a show of your worldview and ideology.
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Um, I think I would consider it for like more regular customers at most of the strip clubs
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I actually just recently started working at a club where you do get to choose your own
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The club will charge you a certain amount for the room.
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So like 15 minutes, 30 minutes, an hour, or like per song, they charge you.
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Um, right now we do have a, there is a set amount on the song dances.
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So I have to charge, um, 30, I have to specifically say $30 a song and then plus a tip.
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Um, yeah, I'm stricter, the more, the cheaper the dance is like for the songs.
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I have to dance with my shoes on and it's pretty uncomfortable.
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Um, if they're buying a whole bunch of songs in bulk and I can kind of get a little bit
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more comfortable in the dance, I am fine with a little bit less of a tip because you
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know, buy more in a, in a communist society, there wouldn't be strip clubs, correct?
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I, ideally men wouldn't objectify women in such a way that would create the necessity
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for strip clubs, but also like prostitution and sex work in general are, I think the
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Well, I don't think it would like in, in the application of communism, I don't think that
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Um, because I, my understanding from a communist perspective is that sex work is viewed as
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It's, it's, there would be no need for sex work in a communist society.
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Cause you would have, I guess in this utopia, this communist utopia, you would have all your
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So people wouldn't want to be sex workers as often.
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Now there's some people that do enjoy it, like the dominatrixes and stuff like that,
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So there'd be private, but would a dominatrix charge for that?
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And there's, so they just domin, do dominatrixing for, for free, I guess.
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Well, I mean, I would dispute that you said sex work, prostitution is the earliest profession.
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I believe either fishing or agriculture would be probably the earliest profession.
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And then maybe shortly thereafter, here's a fish.
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If somebody pays you like, I don't know, 30, and then another guy pays you a thousand
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for like a private room, do you give them two separate things?
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So the $30 a song was, is for like a specific couch room?
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Like one guy pays you 30, another guy pays you a thousand.
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We won't linger too long on this topic, but in a communist civilization society, there
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are things in the society that need to be done, right?
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Like for example, can you think of a job, even in a capitalist society, that is viewed
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So garbage men, garbage collectors, or people that go into sewers or dirty jobs, right?
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How would you have, who would do these jobs in a communist utopia?
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It's because it's like the most asked question whenever you're talking about communism.
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So I guess it depends on if there's like a base living wage where there's, we're still
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getting quantifiable income for the labor that we provide, or if there's no wages, we'll
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go with the no wages option just because that's a little bit more of a complex argument, I would
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There would be no like national corporation overhead, uh, leading the, the waste management.
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Um, so it would be on a small scale individual studies.
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Uh, of the existing housing stock that we have, uh, how would we for, obviously there's more
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desirable geographic locations, Southern California, very desirable location to live, uh, Indiana,
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Um, if I guess everybody's equal in this circumstance, um, like how would, do we just demolish our existing
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So who gets to keep, who gets to stay in the mansions?
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And I think mansions preferably in a utopia would be more shared and communal spaces.
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Um, so like groups and big families that want to live together.
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I think that would be a good way to distribute the mansions.
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So like really cold versus really hot and, you know, stuff like that.
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One part of that is people already live in those areas and are choosing to live in those
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Now you could argue that they're living in those areas cause they can't afford to live in a
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place like Santa Barbara or something or Southern California, something like that.
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Um, but like for me from North Carolina, where it's a lot more affordable to live, I wouldn't
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Um, so I think a lot of the times that's going to be the case is where people want to be able
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to stay where they're at addressing the issue of people relocating.
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Um, it would just depend on how we're getting everything done.
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If we need more of that undesirable labor to get done, that could be an incentive for either
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But I think part of the reason that people might remain in less desirable geographic locations
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in the United States, I agree with you that some people are kind of, uh, what would be
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the right word, perhaps content with living in these areas, but some people do so out of
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Um, I'm, I'm confident if, for example, I don't know what the exact number would be.
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Maybe it's half if we were to all the people that live in like super cold regions in the
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United States, I guess some people, some people like that.
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If we were to offer them a, uh, transportation totally free to Southern California, and if
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we were to offer them free, uh, housing and food in California, I'm confident you would
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see large swaths of the United States population who live in colder regions or less desirable geographic
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It could be other parts, uh, more desirable geographic locations.
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So I guess, do we just completely abandon the existing housing stock in sort of, you know,
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I would say repurpose and reuse those, those already constructed buildings.
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And then what do we do with like the massive influx of people who would move to like say
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If there was a governing body over this geographical region, um, I, I like to imagine like, um, an
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ethics council that would govern areas little by little.
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Um, so this ethics council rules over this area.
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Um, I would say it would be part of their ethical considerations to consider the geographical
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So if there's only so much land that can be used, it would be unethical to bring more
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people in because then it would lead to unsafe housing conditions.
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What, what if people don't consent to communism?
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Like you realize that there are capitalists in society that would fight against communism.
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So Santa Barbara, the area we're currently in, uh, there's an area of Santa Barbara called
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It's one of the wealthiest parts of the entire country.
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What's stopping me once we descend into a communist society from, well, I want to live in Oprah
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She doesn't want other people to live in her house.
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So, but what's stopping me and a band of ragtag Santa Barbara people from just taking her house?
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Or does she, it's not her house anymore, right?
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There's no personal, there's less personal property.
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That would, like I said, depend on the way that we transition into that.
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Um, so like I said, it would, in a, in a peaceful, in the peaceful way of going into communism,
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I guess we would go through socialism, um, have universal basic income, uh, basic needs
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all met, um, through income, through, you know, making sure that we have the income that
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Um, and then we would eventually, I guess, get to a point where we wouldn't need the income.
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So at that point, maybe everybody would agree to no longer have income.
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But there's no private ownership of property, right?
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I think my foot, my personal focus is less on like private ownership of property and like
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more like corporations, billionaires, like the massive scale.
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I think I would say ideally, yes, in the way that that house is your access to safety
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Safety, you know, what a house naturally provides safety, shelter, and comfort for you to develop
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That would be, I would consider a basic human right.
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But so why does Oprah get that house and I'm living not in Oprah's house?
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Well, if I were to want to be a politician one day with my political science degree, I
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don't want to be on the interweb saying, yes, Jeff Bezos should get guillotined.
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That would be, and now we're going to clip it and it's going to go crazy.
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I wish that there was a way for all of us to live peacefully together without there having
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But do you think the world would be more peaceful if we were to guillotine?
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Are you okay with offing people because of their political or financial like perspectives?
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Do you want to continue answering your question?
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It depends on the steps that we've, that we're taking and that we've already taken.
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Like if we're in a revolution and we're trying to take over the world, somebody could get
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But you're saying, you're saying guillotine, which is inherently like a state authoritarian
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It's not like a individual doing something to another individual.
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Well, the collective people could, could guillotine.
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Like it's a large body of people typically in charge or that have revolted that are doing
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And typically it's against somebody who has a different political leaning because it's,
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Like you wouldn't hold Jeff Bezos down, but you would be in the crowd cheering.
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I wish that there was a peaceful way to go about things.
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And I hope that there is a peaceful way to go about things.
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No, not to guillotine people, just to have, to cultivate a kinder society.
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How did Stalin and Mao go, go about their communist?
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But those millions of people were not, I assume were not the wealthy.
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Uh, I don't know exactly where, I'll, I'll know where that puts you on a global scale.
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Well, my, I guess kind of my issue here a little bit is, uh, you may be in the 1% globally.
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So what happens when, like, third worlders view you as the 1% and come for you with the
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I try to advocate for everybody and be kind to everybody.
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If you have a few thousand dollars in savings, you might be 1% globally.
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Think about, you got to think there's like what, 1.4 billion people in India and like 1.3, nine
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of those people, whatever, uh, they don't have the equivalent of a thousand dollars in
01:17:57.300
You kind of seem like a bit of a capitalist hoarder over here.
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I don't even have my full semester's tuition right now.
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Would you like to see a hegemonic worldwide communist system?
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I mean, so like you worldwide, you're the top, you're in the top 1%.
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You live in the, you live in the United States, blonde, white woman.
01:18:39.680
So when we, uh, under a communist system, I don't know if a bunch of people would want
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to geographically relocate to the United States.
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If we've completely done away with the, you know, because a lot of people come to the
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Uh, would you, um, I'm pretty sure they're going to kill you though.
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Like in the, in the, in your communist, I don't know.
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I try to use my privilege the best that I can and advocate the best that I can.
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And, um, I'm not doing everything that I could for sure.
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I'll be the first person to say that is I do have a lot of privilege.
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Um, but like I said, I just hope the best for everybody.
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And if I am at the cost of that, if my life is the cost of that, then that would be okay.
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If his life is the cost, I really don't like that guy.
01:19:37.460
Should Elon Musk with all his, his vast wealth, most of which is, uh, is tied up in, uh, stocks
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and his businesses, but, uh, should he get the guillotine?
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No, ethically they should not get the guillotine.
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Um, where's the, but give us the, but they should redistribute their wealth.
01:20:06.500
Also, I saw, uh, on your blue sky, you have some thoughts on Elon Musk.
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He did the Nazi salute and my whole family is Jewish.
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They came over during the Holocaust and it's something that even if you're a Nazi, you're
01:20:36.480
And if that's not how it was intended, that's how it comes across to people.
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Like, you know, New York, how he, are you, are you a fan of Mom Donnie?
01:21:11.340
Can you tell us, uh, is that a Nazi salute that the, that, that Democrat just did?
01:21:20.520
Do you think he was trying to do a Nazi salute?
01:21:23.080
But I think Elon has also shared a lot of takes, uh, that, you know, give backing to calling
01:21:31.880
He allows a lot of hateful speech and rhetoric and he promotes it.
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I mean, I don't go on Twitter, but I know that it is very full of that and I've seen stuff,
01:21:48.240
I don't have direct quotes for you because I honestly don't read that much of it, but.
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I mean, if you're being like a Nazi, then free speech is being a Nazi.
01:22:01.840
It's someone who's anti-Semitic, you know, the people who killed the Jews.
01:22:36.260
The other one, both videos, because it shows both.
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Mondani is so much more polite with it, though.
01:22:48.360
To me, it seems like he's just giving, like, a real fist.
01:22:51.940
There's also, like, 10 other videos of, like, a million other Democrat politicians that have
01:23:03.820
Like, they're going through the motion a little bit differently, but the final ending gesture
01:23:14.600
Besides that, the actual gesture is the exact same.
01:23:28.500
Because you think Elon Musk did the Nazi salute.
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If he did not do a Nazi salute, then you should have no problem copying it.
01:24:36.520
Look, look, Elon Musk, I'm pretty sure he's autistic, right?
01:24:48.640
I think it's willful ignorance to say that he's not doing it, when you can easily see
01:24:54.000
what his rhetoric and stances have been on a multitude of issues, and I don't think
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There are plenty of autistic people who would never say or do that kind of behavior.
01:25:10.080
I've been diagnosed since 2023, and I would never do those things.
01:25:12.820
Can you give one specific example of one policy that he gives that is Nazi-esque, or something
01:25:19.060
I mean, again, I don't have word for word, but he was backing Trump, who's pushing fascist
01:25:25.300
What has Trump said or done that is Nazi-esque?
01:25:28.220
Well, he's a strong nationalist, telling other people they need to get out of our country.
01:25:34.200
Nationalism is inherently wrong, because it's saying that, oh, we, the white people here,
01:25:40.220
Everyone else can get out of here, because we're in the United States.
01:25:45.420
Yeah, are other countries allowed to be nationalists?
01:25:56.460
There have been legal immigrants here who have been deported.
01:26:02.460
They've been arrested by accident, and then taken, processed, realized that they're legal,
01:26:07.000
Or if they have been arrested, it's also because they've been beating police officers, and different
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I heard the by accident part, but they're not exactly nice about it.
01:26:17.040
I wouldn't be nice about it at this point, either.
01:26:25.660
Um, uh, what the, I'm sorry, excuse me, the, what are the, the detainment centers?
01:26:37.840
There has been evidence that has recently come out that has shown torture and unfit conditions,
01:26:45.280
um, for these immigrants, whether they're illegal or not, and it has also been shown that
01:26:50.620
the majority of the people that are being held in these centers are non-violent.
01:26:57.960
I'm talking about the detainment, yes, that one.
01:27:00.820
Seacott, yeah, these are murderous people that have killed, that have robbed, pillaged,
01:27:07.320
You're telling me that the people in Seacott are just brown people?
01:27:13.500
No, I'm talking about Seacott, because that report was made about Seacott.
01:27:22.100
I'm not going to go into the rage bait with you.
01:27:25.880
I think you have your opinions, and I have my opinions, and that is that.
01:27:34.500
You're not going to get into the rage bait with her?
01:27:39.160
That was actually a big thing about my last podcast, and especially Rachel.
01:27:43.460
Rachel, I love you, but she said that I don't actually hold my beliefs.
01:27:50.120
I've faced a lot of monetary repercussions because of it.
01:27:56.440
I mean, I wouldn't debate with you, because I agree with you, but yeah, I actually hold
01:28:03.880
So, you're saying, like, they're being treated, like, bad in these, like, centers, but at the
01:28:10.820
They were here illegally, and I, okay, you're, you, I am Mexican.
01:28:17.200
They went to the process, and there's so many, like, people that come here that shouldn't
01:28:28.920
If, like, for example, you go to Japan, Korea, their migration, they're super strict.
01:28:37.900
If you overstay your visa, they kick you out immediately.
01:28:42.560
Mexico, Mexicans don't want, like, Americans there, too.
01:28:45.760
If you see recently in the news, like, Mexicans were like, get, like, get out, Americans.
01:28:53.200
Pretty much, like, I'm a proud of born American.
01:29:04.420
Okay, so, well, we already talked about the Nazi stuff, I guess.
01:29:11.500
But, so, is it, I guess, both your positions that Elon Musk is a Nazi?
01:29:17.840
I mean, I don't think he's going out fucking trying to kill Jews and stuff, but I think
01:29:21.900
he is, like, doing actions that are Nazi-esque, yes.
01:29:29.400
I'm not, I'm not quarreling with you about that word.
01:29:32.780
I think it's fine, but, and she was asking, can you point to something that, I guess,
01:29:39.180
either Trump or Elon Musk has done that is Nazi-esque?
01:29:43.100
But we're not looking, we don't need a verbatim quote if you get a word or two wrong.
01:29:48.420
You can even tell us the essence of what you think.
01:29:51.700
No, but what is the essence of what Elon Musk or Donald Trump is doing that is Nazi-esque?
01:29:57.300
I think the way that they are treating immigrants in this country is exactly like Nazi Germany.
01:30:08.040
My family was in the Holocaust, and they have said that it reminds them of exactly how the
01:30:12.360
Holocaust started, and they're scared of where it's going.
01:30:17.420
I mean, those detainment camps that they have them in are horrible.
01:30:20.720
There was a woman there who didn't get medical care at all, and she died because she was pregnant.
01:30:26.600
If I were to go to Israel without a visa, and I overstayed my visa in Israel, and I was deported from Israel,
01:30:36.900
would Israel be acting in a Nazi-esque sort of way by deporting me?
01:30:40.500
Well, I don't agree with the Israeli government at all, either.
01:30:48.060
Sure, but I'm asking, and you could replace Israel with any country, right?
01:30:53.300
You could replace with Japan if I go to Japan, and I overstay my visa, and I want to continue staying there.
01:31:01.720
So I think what they're doing to the Gazans is Nazi-esque.
01:31:05.240
Okay, but I'm asking you, if I get deported, because I'm there illegally at that point,
01:31:13.640
if I get deported, is the action that the government is taking through deporting me, is that Nazi-esque behavior?
01:31:20.560
I think it's the part where they do it en masse.
01:31:24.900
They're rounding all these people up, purposely hunting them down.
01:31:29.460
But they're going up to people just because they're brown.
01:31:34.920
Let's just go ahead, and for the sake of the argument, let's go ahead and say that's wrong.
01:31:38.960
Now, of the people that they do deport, are you okay with that?
01:31:43.660
I think that this place is supposed to be a land of opportunity.
01:31:49.860
I think that everyone should be working to support each other and help each other have a better life.
01:31:55.300
And I think people like that are escaping from a situation that's not necessarily good for the most part.
01:32:01.680
And a lot of them are searching for a better life here.
01:32:07.740
We're supposed to be this place where people can have their American dreams come true, you know?
01:32:12.620
Are we just the world's dumping ground for people?
01:32:30.800
But the majority of them are not violent offenders.
01:32:39.180
...want people to come to our country, but legal...
01:32:42.540
I just got her to admit that she's okay with slave labor.
01:32:46.260
I think that our farm workers are underpaid and treated unfairly.
01:32:50.100
And because they're illegals and they're paid under the book, if they were Americans, they would actually have to report these numbers and they would have to pay them fairly.
01:33:00.340
I think we should be trying to do more to help everyone instead of trying to make people's lives more difficult.
01:33:06.580
We have homeless vets laying on the other side of the street in L.A.
01:33:09.260
We just fucking spent on a gold ballroom and you're saying we don't have enough money that our people in need?
01:33:16.700
There's plenty of money that they spend on frivolous stuff that could be going to help people who actually need it.
01:33:24.160
Yeah, I would agree with the one argument just being like, we can't even take care of the people who are already here.
01:33:33.620
We're spending it too much on a million dollars.
01:33:44.300
Illegal immigrants contribute more to our social funds than they receive.
01:33:52.360
There's massive amounts of dispute there as to the net economic benefit of illegal immigrants.
01:34:00.500
Benefit that they receive or benefit that they produce?
01:34:02.000
I mean, it depends what framework you're looking at it from.
01:34:05.540
But there's a lot of there's different ways you can do an analysis on on this.
01:34:12.000
And if you're accounting for certain things like, well, OK, we need to, you know, are you accounting for the a lot of these illegal immigrants?
01:34:21.200
They just go to the hospital for their medical treatment and then they never pay their hospital bill.
01:34:27.260
Are we accounting for that in the economic calculus of the net impact of illegal immigration?
01:34:36.500
And so your your math on that would probably exclude things like that.
01:34:47.000
Something that I did just write about in one of my final papers was the fact that deporting.
01:34:55.200
Now, this is slightly separate, but deporting all of the immigrants or the majority of the immigrants in the United States would actually lead to a between a four and six something percent decrease in the GDP, which is similar as similar rates to that of that.
01:35:15.900
We saw that in the 2008 economic recession is GDP, the only metric that matters if you're doing a analysis of the prosperity of the nation.
01:35:33.480
Even if we grant that that's true and there's some dispute whether the GDP would actually go down.
01:35:39.380
Or maybe it's not quite as severe as you say it would.
01:35:44.440
So I think people would be willing to take a perhaps marginal economic hit if it meant that all illegal immigrants were deported from the United States.
01:35:54.720
Like, for example, in order for us to put murderers away, we have to have a robust criminal justice system.
01:36:02.820
We need to hire investigators and police officers to investigate murders.
01:36:09.140
And it's expensive to go through the justice system and, you know, maybe they're trying to find the guy.
01:36:15.820
That can cost hundreds of thousands or even millions of dollars.
01:36:21.480
I don't really care what the cost is, you know.
01:36:29.820
So in this case, I don't think when we're talking about wanting to deport illegal immigrants,
01:36:36.480
I don't think people are solely focused on the economic impacts of illegal immigration.
01:36:42.760
I think they're thinking about other things, too.
01:36:44.760
Also, does your analysis of the GDP, does it factor in?
01:36:49.840
How many, do you know how many illegal immigrants are in the United States?
01:36:56.880
I know that there's, no, no, I don't off the top of my head.
01:37:11.900
Do you think all the illegal immigrants are homeless?
01:37:27.840
So these illegal immigrants, they're not homeless.
01:37:31.900
That's housing stock that could otherwise be freed up for citizens.
01:37:36.860
So, so there's, uh, there's a lot of, you know, when we're doing this analysis, I'm
01:37:44.960
Well, it's plausible that, uh, our rents might go down too.
01:37:48.580
If we free up like massive amounts of housing stock.
01:37:52.760
I have actually, I heard that in my urbanization class, uh, we talked about that and that was
01:37:59.040
the first thing that he, one of the first things that he said.
01:38:01.840
And, uh, that could be very much true that, or no, it would be true because you're
01:38:08.740
And that would, um, you know, make more demand available, um, or, you know, however it works.
01:38:16.060
What, one other, or sorry, did you want to continue?
01:38:19.280
What would additionally free up the housing market would be to reduce or eliminate big
01:38:25.840
banks and big corporations and Airbnb from being able to purchase these properties in
01:38:32.540
Like these big billionaires have a whole bunch of vacation homes, how having a limit on vacation
01:38:41.240
Wait, so I mean, so, so I, I am aware that like BlackRock, for example, has bought up a
01:38:47.260
Nick, can you just do a Google search for how much, uh, how much of the housing stock in
01:38:52.400
the United States is owned by private corporations?
01:38:54.500
So look, I don't, I wouldn't necessarily object to like, if you own more than like three properties
01:38:59.760
or something, maybe even two properties, there should perhaps be a vacancy tax.
01:39:05.560
Well, I know in Canada, for example, a lot of rich Chinese people, well, I don't think it'd
01:39:11.600
Uh, a lot of Chinese people have bought up a bunch of properties in Vancouver and Toronto
01:39:16.200
and the price of rent in various Canadian major cities has completely skyrocketed because the
01:39:22.640
Chinese wealthies are like, whoa, this is a good investment.
01:39:26.860
Canada is like very, um, has a very kind of, well, I don't know if it's, is it stable?
01:39:33.260
Canada's kind of getting fucked a little bit, but, uh, Canada's, uh, a good place to buy real
01:39:39.020
estate for a lot of these wealthy, uh, foreigners or whatever.
01:39:42.360
And so, uh, I'm not really opposed to like a vacancy tax.
01:39:46.700
I think that's probably fine, but I don't think that that does anything to diminish my
01:39:52.780
And by the way, I think the amount of, uh, in terms of the amount of housing stock that
01:39:57.460
corporations own, it's far less than what is occupied by legal immigrants.
01:40:10.360
Aren't these corporations also classified as too big to fail?
01:40:18.280
That was how a lot of corporate, a few corporations were, um, classified during the recession.
01:40:24.060
I don't know if these specific ones, but I know that that was how some companies were,
01:40:28.480
especially banks were classified during the recession.
01:40:30.420
Uh, but I mean, going back to a point you were making, you were saying that these people
01:40:34.880
are, they're leaving their countries, they're refugees, they're asylum seekers.
01:40:42.940
I think they're just economic migrants and also part of asylum seeking or being a refugee.
01:40:49.060
Uh, I believe international refugee or asylum law is like, if you're coming from South America,
01:40:54.640
you have to stop in the first country that's safe.
01:40:58.300
You can't just, hmm, oh, uh, I want to go live in, uh, you know, this, this country a little further away.
01:41:05.220
No, you have to stop in the first country that I guess is safe.
01:41:08.760
I'm not, maybe I'm not articulating it perfectly, but these people pass through otherwise okay, uh, countries in South America, Central America.
01:41:19.820
And, well, I guess we'll include Mexico in this.
01:41:23.000
Um, you, my understanding is you can't leave Mexico to come to the U.S. as an asylum seeker.
01:41:33.200
And I'm not saying it's necessarily asylum seeking.
01:41:35.640
I'm saying they're trying to make a better life.
01:41:37.300
And I don't think that that should be an issue.
01:41:39.260
My stance on this is an ethical one, not one based in, you know, the GDP and stuff.
01:41:46.160
Mine is about other human beings and trying to lift other human beings up to have a better life.
01:41:53.560
So do you think everybody should just be allowed to come here?
01:41:57.400
Do you think everybody should just be allowed to come here?
01:42:01.200
Like, my whole thing is if something is good for you, then if you're not hurting anyone, then do it.
01:42:11.520
What has a Mexican immigrant ever done to hurt you?
01:42:14.260
The mass immigration from Mexico, from any of these countries where it's been...
01:42:26.360
Like, immigration anywhere is going to come and, like, take problems either way.
01:42:33.220
What problems has it caused for you personally?
01:42:41.500
It's hurting the American population in general.
01:42:49.380
Like, you know, all of those gang members, mostly are Latinos.
01:43:06.200
To have a better life, but they did it legally, the legal way.
01:43:12.060
Not everyone has that long to get out of their situation.
01:43:16.240
Okay, some parts, like the cartels are, like, you know, taking over.
01:43:19.580
But a lot of parts of Mexico, it's, like, fine to live.
01:43:26.480
So, a lot of Mexicans are going illegally, like, boarding the...
01:43:31.100
I don't know why people try to act like Mexico is, like, full of...
01:43:38.560
Like, there's other things in that country, you know, right?
01:43:41.440
Like, houses, mansions, hotels, resorts, tourist attractions.
01:43:49.880
That's not the reality of living in it for a lot of people.
01:44:07.620
So, should we be going to Mexico to seek asylum?
01:44:10.500
If you want to go to Mexico to seek asylum, you do you.
01:44:13.840
As I said, I'm for doing whatever you need to do.
01:44:21.160
Bro, if I want to go somewhere, sure, I'd go illegally.
01:44:25.680
If they find out you're illegal in Mexico, they'll kick you back to America.
01:44:35.440
I mean, I'm more for going to Sweden, personally.
01:44:41.500
Because I have a life, and I have a family, and I don't have the means.
01:44:48.360
Do you think America is the best nation in the world?
01:45:10.160
That, but also their population is extremely homogenous with...
01:45:16.800
And a lot of the welfare is changing as well with that.
01:45:22.660
You can either have a robust welfare state, or you can have robust illegal immigration.
01:45:38.360
I'm saying we can make it easier for people to become legal.
01:45:45.020
I agree with fixing the system, because I think you should flush it.
01:45:48.960
I think the situation that it is right now, it's backed up by years and years that needs
01:45:54.160
But I also think we should be much, much, much stricter with the people that we do let
01:46:03.120
We shouldn't just be letting every person in just because they want to come in.
01:46:19.120
To be clear, you're fine with them being deported.
01:46:22.640
I mean, I think that they should face legal repercussions, and if they have to go face
01:46:28.600
I don't think, like, if you're not a violent offender, I don't think that that should apply
01:46:34.560
But, like, if you did something to physically harm someone, then, yeah, like, I don't care.
01:46:42.640
But then, of the people who, let's assume that they're not committing, well, aside from
01:46:49.460
being illegal immigrants, they're not committing, like, specific crimes that don't relate to
01:47:03.220
The majority are hardworking and trying to make better lives for themselves and their
01:47:06.820
families, and they should be allowed to do that.
01:47:22.080
There's a reason that America is supposed to be the land of opportunity for people.
01:47:29.020
It's because people have the opportunity to do so much more with their life.
01:47:34.360
Okay, but so that is true of the legal immigrants that we let into the country and of its existing
01:47:43.280
However, the American government has passed laws and has had laws on the book for a very
01:47:50.440
long time preventing or attempting to prevent illegal immigration.
01:47:55.380
So the United States, as a country and as a government, has made a determination that
01:48:04.760
So regardless of somebody's desires, if they want to make a better life for themselves,
01:48:10.280
that doesn't give them free reign to stay in our country, enter our country.
01:48:19.300
And regardless of, you know, the feel-good, yeah, it feels great.
01:48:25.660
How long ago did your ancestors immigrate here?
01:48:31.980
Well, because a lot of us, especially white Americans, have immigrant ancestors that came
01:48:44.520
We committed a genocide against the indigenous.
01:48:56.440
We wiped out, like, the majority of their population with disease and, like, violence.
01:49:05.860
One civilization took over another civilization.
01:49:09.140
First off, when it comes to disease, you think that the typical settler in the 16th,
01:49:15.020
17th, 1800s, do you think, like, they had robust...
01:49:31.020
People didn't know in the 1700s and the 1800s about disease.
01:49:55.360
The tribes, even before the white man ever stepped foot in the United States, these tribes
01:50:05.700
They were fighting and taking their land and taking their game.
01:50:09.920
And so to which tribe do we return this stolen land?
01:50:14.320
Is it to the tribe that was conquered by the Apaches?
01:50:21.220
Do we return it to the Chippewa or the tribe that conquered them?
01:50:29.860
If we want to do it peacefully, it's going to be a whole process.
01:50:33.280
And there's a whole bunch of different tribes that are in the United States because there's
01:50:39.400
I don't want to say operated by it because that's a word.
01:50:46.500
But people that resided in these areas indigenously.
01:50:55.400
Look, I'm not saying that there was no plight of the Native Americans.
01:51:01.020
And certainly in some regards, they were absolutely wronged in terms of broken treaties and so forth.
01:51:08.500
However, do you think that they were a peaceable people before the white man came to North America?
01:51:17.960
You weren't there when the white man was there either.
01:51:27.680
There's also recorded history of massive amounts of inter-tribe warfare.
01:51:38.300
I'm actually going to say that that's bad, but that's a human nature argument.
01:51:41.700
What the settlers did was conquest, which is exactly what they were doing to the other Native American tribes.
01:52:14.560
I'll say that that's true for good faith, right?
01:52:16.100
But they were also overall living in a way that was more compatible with the Earth's natural functions.
01:52:30.240
The American buffalo in the Midwest, they would literally run them off of...
01:52:36.140
Cliffs because they just needed the meat for one day.
01:52:42.800
The pollution, the massive cattle farms, you think that's more humane than just killing one animal because you need the meat?
01:52:54.020
So we should keep them all in little tiny cages?
01:52:57.480
European settlers brought civilization to North America.
01:53:01.400
So, I mean, yes, there's absolutely criticisms in terms of pollution.
01:53:05.120
Some of the blame there would be more modern industry, you'd place the blame on them.
01:53:14.240
But, yeah, we brought civilization to North America.
01:53:21.300
Not every pilgrim and person that came colonizing the U.S., not every single one of them was violent, correct?
01:53:29.780
So what about the situation going on with, I'm not just saying Mexico, but I'm saying mass immigration from Somalia, from Mexico, from any of these places.
01:53:40.720
A lot of them, especially with the whole Somalian thing right now, they're explicitly stating that they want to make their own little political enclaves, their own little societal enclaves.
01:53:48.920
How is that not their own little mini form of colonization while they're taking over our country, our resources, our site?
01:53:58.000
Some of them are violent, as you just admitted.
01:54:00.060
Some of them, can you give me a percentage of immigrants that are violent and trying to slaughter people?
01:54:07.400
Because that's the point I'm making, is that...
01:54:10.460
We have quantifiable data now for more modern times.
01:54:14.080
We cannot as easily quantify population and rates from the 1500s, 1600s.
01:54:27.140
I love big booty Latina traditionalists and we should expedite their visas.
01:54:31.600
Share one and two, if America is not the best in the world, why do so many come here illegally instead of their stable neighbors?
01:54:44.080
The question, I believe, was their, like Mexico's neighbors is what I would say.
01:54:49.060
Well, if America is so bad, you guys probably aren't big fans of America.
01:54:56.240
Why would you be so in favor of all these illegal immigrants coming to the United States if America is so bad and it's fascist?
01:55:05.960
Why should people come here if they're about to enter into a fascist Nazi regime that it's about to be 1930s fucking Nazi Germany in the United States?
01:55:19.000
Why should, are you sure it's the best, are you sure it's really safe for these, as you said, brown people to come to the United States when we're about to be in a, we're going to have a Nazi fascist regime?
01:55:29.560
Is it really safe for, don't you care about the well-being of these illegal immigrant brown people?
01:55:37.980
You know, my honest opinion, I don't think it is safe for brown people right now.
01:55:49.740
Maybe we should just stop treating them like shit.
01:56:00.700
Would you, would you go to war, like, not literal war, but if I got deported from Japan, because I was like, damn,
01:56:07.440
I was trying to, you know, I was trying to get, you know, I was trying to, you know, be a little weeb in Japan or some shit.
01:56:14.500
Would you shed a tear for me if I got deported, a white man, if I got deported from Japan?
01:56:19.820
I mean, sure, if you're really bummed about it, I'll shed a tear for you.
01:56:37.760
The illegal immigrants in the USA do not pay taxes because they are there illegally.
01:56:42.600
And the companies and corporations take advantage of them by paying them less with no benefits.
01:57:04.320
Hey, what do the women on your podcast actually think of you?
01:57:29.280
Interesting that all of these refugees send billions of dollars per year back to their home nations in tax-free remittances, all while enjoying tax-funded social safety nets.
01:57:48.660
The natives were still in the Stone Age versus a technologically superior civilization.
01:57:53.360
The fact they're still alive is just further evidence of Anglo's benevolence.
01:58:02.480
I mean, have you ever been on a Native American reservation?
01:58:05.320
We literally had to teach them how to fish because over time they could do it.
01:58:09.060
My boyfriend's whole family is Native American, so I...
01:58:14.440
Did you take, like, a history class, like, ever in your life?
01:58:19.480
Did you take a history class ever in your life?
01:58:20.840
No, I've never, ever, ever learned history, no.
01:58:28.200
We pushed the Native Americans onto the reservations.
01:58:31.060
We have the whole Trail of Tears that was, like...
01:58:37.300
If y'all ever go visit the East Coast, go take a look at it.
01:58:41.420
We pushed the indigenous people of North America onto these reservations, and we restricted
01:58:49.000
That's why those reservations are really shitty.
01:59:00.460
Is every person given the means to leave and give a better life for themselves in America?
01:59:09.540
I think we can acknowledge that, of course, throughout all periods of human history, there
01:59:15.740
Look, the standard by which we live today is completely different than really at any other
01:59:24.160
But you start going back a couple hundred years, and the world looked a lot different.
01:59:34.100
Now we have a greater degree of diplomacy where these issues are typically not handled with
01:59:47.660
We live in a more peaceful time than, you know, the past...
01:59:54.980
Relatively speaking, we've lived in a relatively peaceful time.
02:00:10.160
Relatively speaking, we live in a unprecedented time of stability and peace.
02:00:18.340
You start going back hundreds and hundreds of years.
02:00:24.440
And Native Americans do have some legitimate grievances.
02:00:31.500
However, the reality is, is that conquest was the rule at the time.
02:00:38.960
And so, you know, how far back can we start talking?
02:00:44.840
What's your threshold for how far back we can go?
02:00:49.160
Should the Roman Empire be able to reclaim vast swaths of Europe and North Africa?
02:00:57.500
That's the whole thing about being progressive is, like, the forward.
02:01:03.620
If we're saying we must remediate all these past harms, and if we're talking about, you
02:01:10.260
know, conquest, well, there's various territories in Europe that have traded hands dozens of times
02:01:17.880
over centuries and millennia, to whom do we return?
02:01:32.020
Okay, well, the communists, of course, the communists.
02:01:35.260
Wait, if land shouldn't be owned by anybody, then why do the Native Americans have any right
02:01:42.500
It can be managed and cultivated in a way that is productive.
02:01:47.880
Wait, if land doesn't belong to anybody, the settlers didn't steal the land because it
02:02:02.540
We're not in communism right now, so it did belong to somebody.
02:02:05.660
We're talking about what should be versus what.
02:02:22.840
In both Canada and the USA, indigenous people were forced onto small plots of land away from
02:02:28.580
their original lands and had their languages and cultural practices outlawed.
02:02:35.420
She was virtually sucking your dick or something.
02:02:44.080
Look, I think definitely Native Americans probably did not have a great go of things.
02:02:59.500
Just because it happened and it is true that it happened.
02:03:05.640
But we can work towards making things better for indigenous people, for white people, for
02:03:14.400
Let's go ahead and just say I 100% agree with you.
02:03:18.440
What happened to the Native Americans is wrong.
02:03:25.020
So I don't really see how that pertains to arguments as it relates to illegal immigration.
02:03:33.920
Well, you white Americans, you're all hypocrites.
02:03:37.200
It's the United States government, hypocrisy, hypocrisy.
02:03:40.620
We currently have laws as it pertains to illegal immigration.
02:03:44.520
So given that, what would actually be wrong with deporting illegal immigrants?
02:03:49.360
I think, in my stance, there is more of a lack of ethics in the detainment and less of that
02:04:09.300
And we grew up, as Americans, we went to school and we had that picture of the globe and we were
02:04:14.740
all holding hands of, you know, a variety of different skin colors.
02:04:17.520
And that's what I feel like my generation's American ideology, American image was built on,
02:04:31.280
I think that everybody deserves access to safety and comfort and the resources that they need.
02:04:36.700
I wish that these people did not have to immigrate.
02:04:39.580
And, but if there's a country that has a legal system and you're breaking the law, like that's
02:04:50.820
I think that we should just change the legal system.
02:04:52.860
Do you have a right to other people's labor for your basic necessities?
02:04:58.960
No, that was actually, no, that was contradictory.
02:05:01.540
I'm saying, do you have a right to other people's labor to gain, to obtain your basic necessities?
02:05:11.740
Because you're saying that every person deserves, you're making a deserve claim.
02:05:15.620
You're saying that everyone deserves certain things.
02:05:19.200
So you're saying that I am entitled to somebody else's labor.
02:05:22.940
After you work so hard at your job, you want somebody else to come in that didn't work hard
02:05:32.060
And I think that scientifically there have been studies that have shown that when all
02:05:36.820
your personal basic needs are met, your natural direction is to provide for others.
02:05:43.520
So like you see with retired people, they tend to go volunteer because they don't have any,
02:05:47.960
they have all their needs taken care of and they have a whole bunch of free time where
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they can just contribute, additionally contribute.
02:06:00.720
Can I, like, could, would you be down to maybe house?
02:06:05.080
Like maybe some illegal immigrants on your couch?
02:06:16.840
They just, without, you know, checking beforehand with you if, because it sounds like you would
02:06:22.040
actually be okay with, you know, an illegal immigrant.
02:06:29.620
What if they just entered your house without your permission?
02:06:33.480
Well, that kind of leads me into something slightly separate, which would be my sense
02:06:43.940
They're safe, but they, they do illegally enter your house.
02:06:51.600
So, okay, you're, and you're totally fine with that.
02:06:59.680
Just because I'm politically different, I'm not safe.
02:07:04.500
A lot of these immigrants, especially from Mexico, South America, a lot of them are Christian
02:07:09.160
They just rely on Democrats because the Democrats prop up their immigration.
02:07:17.320
You would prefer like a male illegal immigrant over her?
02:07:24.320
Did we, we already established that that male is safe?
02:07:34.700
I thought you said diversity, I thought you said diversity is important.
02:07:46.860
If he's conservative, I would feel less safe with him.
02:07:54.860
Yeah, you say this, but I'm, I'm pretty sure if somebody just, you know, broke into
02:08:02.860
Even if they were super pleasant and you're like, oh, I think he's probably safe, but he
02:08:12.620
She would let them stay at her house from her best friend.
02:08:17.600
I would come to her house and she would be like, I'd be like, who's this guy?
02:08:39.260
Well, she said that in this hypothetical situation, we knew that the person was safe.
02:08:44.360
So in this hypothetical situation, if I knew they were safe, I would let them stay.
02:08:48.680
You also, they're going to be spending, you know, your utilities are going to increase
02:08:52.700
and you're going to have to give them a bit of your food.
02:09:00.520
Because I like to help people just like in my free time, I make food and give it out.
02:09:07.420
Use my money and make food and give it to people who are less fortunate than me.
02:09:11.780
But what if you didn't have the free time and you just had to do it forcefully?
02:09:26.660
If somebody called you right now and said, what's your name?
02:09:30.380
If somebody called you right now and said, Talia, there's a guy, he's in your apartment.
02:09:35.720
Like, he's got all this, he just brought all this stuff.
02:09:38.960
He said he's going to live here for the next year.
02:09:47.360
That's a bigger, you know, that's a different conversation, different concern.
02:09:53.480
Okay, if I don't know they're safe, that's different.
02:10:01.200
I mean, but the majority of them are, and it's not like they're, you know, coming into
02:10:07.100
They're living in their house, doing their work.
02:10:11.520
If she considers my political ideology, if she considers that unsafe, and that's how we're
02:10:16.080
basing the safety of the immigrants, actually, let's do that, because then that'll mean that
02:10:25.020
But first chair, first chair, we'll go by first chairs.
02:10:30.420
I think this is a scenario where, if asked, would you house an illegal immigrant in your
02:10:35.800
house, or what if they just, like, broke in, but, you know, they weren't immediately just
02:10:44.900
You know, I think you say yes because you know it leads to this.
02:10:48.840
It's like, okay, well, if the borders of your own domicile, your own living space, are not
02:10:56.280
subject to entry from just anybody, then it kind of is a, it is related to some degree
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And you're like, your position becomes a bit untenable if you're like, who are you?
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I disagree, because they're not, like, in your sleeping space.
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Well, it might be the case that, so if you're referencing illegal immigrants, but they're
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not living in your house, well, things can get immediately, as soon as you step outside,
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things can drastically change in terms of crime demographics.
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I've never been made to feel unsafe by an immigrant.
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Did you just say, how do you know about her own personal experience?
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That's pretty racist of you to assume that just because they're white, they're Americans,
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and because they're non-white, they're not Americans.
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Like, if they're not trying to make me feel unsafe.
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Like, I'm not gonna, you know, run away and be scared of them.
02:12:25.980
Okay, so do you, what percentage of men would you say are safe?
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I mean, maybe a little less, but the majority, I've, like, the majority of men are not out
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If you're walking down the street, middle of the night, just for some godforsaken scenario,
02:12:48.360
and there were two girls, any of these two girls in the lineup, they were walking down
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On the other side of the street, there were multicultural, doesn't matter, white, black,
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They're all super buff, huge, like, but they're not saying anything really weird.
02:13:08.480
And, like, which side do you think of the street you'd prefer to walk on?
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Whichever side I was on, honestly, I'm not gonna cross the street just because there's
02:13:20.380
I would pick the two girls because I go, me and my homegirl usually go to West Hollywood.
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Just, and it was a worker there that was the, that does valet.
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He just randomly groped, and I was like, what the hell?
02:13:44.640
I've had similar experiences, but that doesn't mean that I'm going to assume automatically
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I don't believe that men are out here to hurt you.
02:13:57.080
But, but there's also observations you can make about the general public, assuming that,
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hey, maybe 220, 130 pound women are not, are a little, are gonna be a little bit more
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safer than a big group of 15 big jacked dudes in a big group that I can't defend myself
02:14:20.920
Okay, we can, we can only actually have a discussion if we're going to argue in good
02:14:27.400
Like, there's no honest way you're telling me when we leave here that if that scenario
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pops up, you're going to choose the side with all the men.
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Like, I'll be on either side, whichever one's more convenient for me.
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No, actually, like walk through there, walk through.
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What's that one street where the girl died in the hotel that, like, the worst?
02:14:56.480
You know that it's a difference there because the majority of people there are suffering from
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mental illness and drug abuse, so that actually decreases the chance of it being
02:15:08.560
Oh, there's statistics on general populations of people.
02:15:15.620
Yeah, there's general statistics about that kind of stuff, right?
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And you make assumptions about people from that, right?
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It's statistically less safe to go to Skid Row than me to stand next to 15 dudes just walking
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Wherever you go, it's going to be unsafe regardless.
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Especially during night times because I've seen a lot in LA.
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Just wherever you go, there's always going to be something.
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I come to her house at, like, wicked hours of the night.
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Like, not, like, one bit of fear when you don't lock your door at night.
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Everything that comes out of her mouth at this point is just ignorance.
02:16:28.780
Wait, so how about if I found out where you live?
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And if you do live your life like that from an outside perspective, just know it's not
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My literal Facebook cover photo says, punching Nazis is hot girl shit.
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So, when somebody calls, like, for example, Chair One, like, calling me Nazi-esque or calling
02:16:57.040
Trump Nazi-esque or calling any of these people Nazi-esque...
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So, that is the same exact ideology that led to Charlie Kirk's death.
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People being okay with hitting other people and murdering other people for political reasons.
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So, again, you're okay with political violence against people that you disagree with.
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Like, if you're being hateful towards other people, you are actively trying to oppress
02:17:44.880
You think I just have, like, a dictionary in my head where I can, like, list definitions
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Obviously, Talia, everybody knows that you have the biggest, you have the biggest smarts
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Uh, I mean, you haven't done anything to harm someone else?
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You just said if we're hateful and disagree with certain things.
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I haven't seen you do anything that would make me want to hate you.
02:18:18.080
Okay, so what have, like, what is your degree, then, to when you can hit people, or let's
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just say commit political violence against them for their opinions?
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If you're actively doing something that's harming or oppressing another person.
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Okay, if I, if I have donated to pro-life charities, if I've donated to anti-trans charities,
02:18:38.420
No, but if you're going out and doing something yourself that participates in harming or oppressing
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someone, that's different than just giving your money.
02:18:45.040
But if you're going around, like, fucking, I don't know, trying to hunt trans people,
02:18:52.120
No, so somebody, so violence, so you're just arresting them, dealing with them in the
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way that you would anybody that's being violent.
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So you're not going after them for political reasons, you're going after them because they're
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I mean, but they're being violent for political reasons.
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But at the end of the day, they're being violent.
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It's not because just based, I'm trying to save you here.
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You were saying you wanted to be violent for political reasons.
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If they're being violent for political, I don't care, honestly.
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Are you okay with the person that murdered Charlie Kirk?
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Okay, if he, if he shot him and by the miracle of God he survived, would you be okay with that?
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You can give them a little slap on the face, you know?
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Why would, also you've done it before and you got a misdemeanor.
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But why would you risk it all just to like slap someone?
02:20:05.520
Because I don't like seeing other people be hateful and hurt other people.
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And if you do that, I'm not, I'm not the tolerant left.
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I am the fuck you and your stupid ass opinion left.
02:20:24.580
Okay, so it's only if I'm going out and being violent towards another person, which then would
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be held, it would actually be handled by police, by federal law enforcement.
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I'm not just going to watch someone do something like that.
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I care about other people enough to put myself in harm's way to help that person.
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It's beautiful, but I think self-preservation is key in life.
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I would like to help however I can, and if I need to intervene in something, I will intervene
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If you resort to violence, you're already losing the conversation.
02:21:13.680
But I'm saying it wouldn't be in a conversation.
02:21:20.080
Okay, if someone come up to my trans friend, and they're like, fuck you, you're trans, you
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know, and they're trying to start a fight with them, I will step in between them.
02:21:31.500
Okay, that's wrong on the person going up to, like, fuck you, you know, that's not right.
02:21:34.960
You know, like, we all got to be respectful on one another, besides all different political
02:21:41.960
So if somebody, let's say we went outside, and I was wearing a MAGA hat, and somebody came
02:21:46.960
up to me and just slapped me on the face, not even punched me, just slapped me, would
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I don't care if you're wearing a MAGA hat or if you're trans.
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What if at the same time, I'm saying, I don't believe in trans, I'm pro-life, I'm anti-immigration,
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da-da-da-da-da-da, and then that person slaps me.
02:22:25.540
Realistically, all of the land in both Canada and the USA can't be given back to native
02:22:30.360
peoples because many different people born and raised in the West are now indigenous.
02:22:42.660
We have one other chat, then we'll get right back into the convo.
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But let the brunette in chair three sit on my face until I died from suffocation.
02:23:02.160
I asked you to have somebody else on the show, and I will fly all the way here just for
02:23:13.380
I don't know if he would come on the show, but I have to consider it.
02:23:18.540
I don't want to name-drop in case that causes a problem.
02:23:45.280
I've just had to be cautious with my show because my understanding was, like, other YouTubers got, like, into trouble in the past for bringing him on.
02:23:56.700
But now it seems like, I don't know if YouTube has changed up their stuff.
02:24:01.260
I think because they're competing with Rumble, because Patrick Beddavid had him on, Tucker Carlson had him on, every big guy, small guy.
02:24:08.880
I was watching a guy that had, like, 2,000 subs, and they got, like, a million views on that video.
02:24:12.980
Like, so many people are having him on, and it's fine because they have to compete with Rumble.
02:24:17.880
I think my understanding is YouTube, YouTube previously was, like, hey, this person is banned from YouTube.
02:24:24.800
If you platform him, you're going to get in trouble in the past.
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But it seems like they've kind of eased up a little bit.
02:24:42.420
I guess there was some hesitation in the past because I know another podcast, Fresh and Fit, they had him on.
02:24:49.980
And my understanding was they got, they didn't get banned from YouTube, but they got demonetized or something.
02:24:58.020
Like, you know, look, I'm all about, I'm fine having these controversial convos.
02:25:20.460
Chair 3, CK was unalive for questioning the events of October 7th and other things.
02:25:29.580
Sreel and pushed for inspections of Project Demona.
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And yeah, I don't think I've talked to Nick, though.
02:25:59.460
It'd be interesting that some of his things, he has some, some of his takes I agree with.
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He's a little more socialist than I'd like, but.
02:26:32.880
He's the one that went on focus with clavicular?
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Anyways, Pasty George, thank you for the message.
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As soon as Chair 2's back, I wanted to finish up some of this convo and then move into a
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Yeah, I think, yeah, that's just like fake news or whatever.
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I think it's because he's like, he stands next to, there was this one guy, I forget what
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And he's super tall and he was staying next to him.
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02:27:38.540
And there was something else we needed to, hold on.
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I'll just do this segment now while we're, so who here does OnlyFans?
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I've had some guy, some, a friend that I went to high school with, he would send me money pretty consistently.
02:28:17.880
But not like, at most, the most I'd ever got to was like a couple hundred dollars in a month.
02:28:23.340
But has like maybe a random guy ever just sent you like 50 bucks or something?
02:28:27.920
Or maybe at the strip club, some guy gave you a big tip or something.
02:28:32.380
You ever had, I mean, it's probably baked into your OnlyFans, right?
02:28:36.900
Like, I've never had a sugar daddy, like, situation, but obviously, like, through OF, like, it's just OF.
02:28:45.240
And then I know you two are not on OF, but has a guy ever just like, here's a hundred bucks, kind of simped, you know?
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Oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God.
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Just have it, like, straight, pointing your mouth.
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I just want to know, like, is it difficult to be on OnlyFans?
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Has a guy ever sent, like, sent you money, or, like, have you had a sugar daddy, money
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No feet pictures, no sugar daddy, but I've had guys send me money.
02:30:21.540
Like, I just post pictures of my face, and then people offer sometimes.
02:30:49.260
But guys have just given you money, sugar daddies?
02:30:57.720
Well, that's an assumption, because unfortunately I've not.
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Aside from OF, I haven't, and it's very actually sad.
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It would be, like, someone I'm, like, talking to or, like, someone, like, I meet, like, at
02:31:50.100
So, I used to use this app called ePal, and it's basically where people can, like, pay
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I have a pretty, like, detailed setup, but not so much anymore.
02:32:08.260
But I've met a couple guys on there that literally just for, like, conversations to watch a show
02:32:28.080
So, and you may never have to do this again in your life, but this is going to be an uno
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All of you have had some experience of some guy just giving you money, just cause, just
02:32:47.720
You know, it's like a bucket list thing, you know?
02:32:49.440
It's like, I would never do this, but just so I can say I did it one time, here's what
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I want all of you, whether you have cash or not, I want you guys to send me money.
02:33:47.420
You're probably, you know, you make that in your sleep, probably.
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What's the last four of the phone number for it?
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Someone gave me money and it was on that already.
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She didn't put anything into the system and just wants to take out of it.
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We're going to start talking about fascism in just a moment.
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I need a trickle in throughout the course of the night.
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You're going to want to stay for this following segment.
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I think that they could be connected to fascist ideology.
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So to you two then who have a stronger position on this.
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Alt-right nationalist ideology that involves like suppression of opposition, centralized government.
02:39:54.180
Um, it can be either left or right, uh, technically.
02:40:05.420
Um, um, um, um, um, I kind of, I agree with, I think the general checklist of things that,
02:40:24.180
The government, whether it's a small group of people or a large group of people, has, um,
02:40:31.620
a significant and disproportionate amount of control over its people.
02:40:45.640
The government has a disproportionate control over its populace.
02:40:57.220
So when we're talking about disproportionate, compared to what?
02:41:02.720
Um, I guess what would be right or ethical for a government to do?
02:41:06.500
So how much control do you want the government to have over you?
02:41:10.520
Because we have like the United States where it has less control over what we do compared
02:41:15.780
to Afghanistan, where women are, you know, forced to have hijabs on.
02:41:20.120
So we have less control in that or less control over us in that aspect.
02:41:23.900
But we do have, I would argue, an excessive amount of control over us because in a lot of states women cannot get abortions.
02:41:32.900
Um, we do not have access to all the things that we need.
02:41:55.140
So which authoritarian, if there was no one else alive, but you, and you actually had to like, you know,
02:42:03.540
you'd probably have to work in the sense of ensuring your survival.
02:42:10.000
Where is the authoritarian regime that is involved?
02:42:14.660
There is no, but there is the authority of survival.
02:42:17.360
Survival and the need to survive has authority over my decisions.
02:42:20.460
In this case, it's less of, it is the need to survive because I still have the need to survive.
02:42:27.520
But it is the government and the capitalist systems that we have in place that force us to work in ways that are kind of separate or indirect from our survival.
02:42:41.660
So like me stripping, for example, it doesn't have anything to do with me growing my own food or building my own house.
02:42:50.920
That labor is not directly attached to my survival.
02:43:03.400
Um, so if Kamala Harris had won the election, uh, you would be living in an authoritarian regime by virtue of you working a job.
02:43:23.520
I think that anything under capitalism could be argued for.
02:43:34.600
Can you have a communist authoritarian government?
02:43:38.400
We, well, we haven't seen a full communist government, so I'm not 100% sure.
02:43:44.200
But what was communism in the Soviet Union or what was called communism in the Soviet Union was authoritarianism.
02:43:50.520
Uh, Talia, in your notes, or I think it was on your Blue Sky, you wrote, you will lose family and friends if their moles are shit.
02:43:57.440
One day, Trump will be in history books the same as Stalin or Mussolini.
02:44:03.900
You, you put Trump as, on the same level as Stalin.
02:44:10.580
See, I don't think he's there right now, but I think that's where we're headed.
02:44:14.380
Uh, no, because the way he rules is, you know, actively trying to harm and oppress people, and I think it's going to go further and further because no one's putting limits on what he can and can't do.
02:44:25.480
He obviously doesn't have to follow the law, which has been made very clear to him, so I don't think there's anything stopping him from doing exactly what they did.
02:44:38.840
And everything he does against trans people, shutting down the trans hotline, suicide hotline numbers, like, it's not like he's directly going out.
02:44:49.660
Okay, but they shut down the main trans suicide hotline number.
02:44:57.120
But there's reasons that there's specialized resources for marginalized groups of people.
02:45:06.780
Of course, but if it's that serious that you're about to off yourself, which I'm not a stranger to the situation, any resource will help.
02:45:15.400
I mean, I agree with that, but I think it's also important that we have specialized resources, and shutting down those resources is harmful.
02:45:21.380
Why is it the taxpayer funding that has to do that?
02:45:23.820
If a trans person is in a burning building, like it's burning, should we send the trans fire crew to rescue the trans person?
02:45:37.320
Because people on suicide hotline numbers have specific training to help the people who are there.
02:45:42.920
Yeah, I was going to say, I honestly don't mind getting taken away, because they don't answer half the time.
02:45:47.520
Also, the people who work at suicide hotlines tend to be pretty empathetic people, is my understanding.
02:45:56.540
Look, I've never called one, but I would assume that they are probably pretty empathetic.
02:46:03.080
I mean, I agree with that, but I also think that they can't necessarily relate to the experiences of LGBT people.
02:46:09.520
I can't even talk right now, LGBT people, and that we need people who have a full understanding of what's going on for that.
02:46:16.460
So should we, wait, wait, one question on this.
02:46:18.520
Should we prevent or preclude trans people from working at the suicide hotline, or the general suicide hotline, because they can't relate to being straight?
02:46:33.600
Hold on, what if somebody, like, knew they were trans from, like, a very early age or whatever, and they don't have the experience of, like, going through puberty or, you know, whatever.
02:46:41.300
But there's not a problem that a cis person is going to have that a trans person can't understand.
02:46:46.380
There are for trans people that cis people can't understand.
02:46:54.720
Okay, so you don't think, like, what if I don't want to speak to somebody who's trans?
02:47:09.300
But if it's okay to create this carve-out where, well, trans people wouldn't feel comfortable not speaking to a trans person at the, or trained in, I don't know.
02:47:19.940
But there's a history of why they don't feel comfortable speaking to these people.
02:47:28.440
Cis people aren't being marginalized by trans people.
02:47:31.080
You're saying all cis people have marginalized trans people?
02:47:33.720
No, but I'm saying that in general, it's not trans people marginalizing trans people.
02:47:42.380
I'm not saying every single cis person is guilty, but I'm saying as a whole, that's what has happened.
02:47:48.000
So how can a trans person simultaneously, like if they've been trans most of their life, how could they have the experience of me who's never been trans?
02:47:58.680
Well, a cis person isn't going to have specific things that someone who's trans can't understand.
02:48:03.420
You can't understand a trans person, like you haven't been through their situation.
02:48:07.480
Why would I need to be through it to understand it?
02:48:11.100
Because there's that connection there between two people.
02:48:13.920
There's that unspoken understanding that you are not alone and that there is somebody else out there who is like you, who has maybe been through similar things.
02:48:34.940
So you have to be that person in order to understand how they're feeling?
02:48:45.300
Again, I do have autism, so I'm also a little weird.
02:48:50.620
Sometimes it's easier to feel understood and less alone when you're talking to someone who's had a similar experience.
02:49:03.420
Then go to therapy and pick a friend of the therapist.
02:49:05.160
Yes, that's also a good resource, but sometimes you need a resource like a hotline in a last minute moment.
02:49:10.660
People who have therapists also call suicide hotlines.
02:49:16.180
We're talking about if he's a fascist or whatever.
02:49:18.700
I think we've lingered too long on the suicide, trans suicide hotline here.
02:49:27.080
Oh, you were asking me why I think that he could be compared to Stalin.
02:49:32.100
Yeah, because I think that he has unchecked power right now, and he's not being held accountable for his actions, for his crimes.
02:49:40.480
And I think that there is nothing to stop him, and I think he could very much do that.
02:49:45.340
Do you know there's a three branches of government?
02:49:49.960
Okay, but we also have a felon as our president, so he's obviously not being held accountable.
02:49:56.500
Well, why don't you, since you're an expert in this, can you tell us what his felony convictions were for?
02:50:07.000
It was some phony baloney lawfare nonsense, some financial stuff, whatever, total lawfare.
02:50:16.060
But if felons can't vote, why should they be able to be president?
02:50:28.360
The convictions, the 34 felony convictions were because of his actions during his first presidential term.
02:50:37.560
And like you said, they were financial under his first presidential term.
02:50:43.160
They were things that he went through the impeachment.
02:50:46.280
He didn't get impeached, but he went through the impeachment process for.
02:50:49.860
So let's say hypothetically, let's say that we agree that he is guilty of those things, which I don't agree.
02:50:57.060
You think he should be held accountable for those things, right?
02:51:00.860
Don't you think illegal immigrants should be held accountable for being illegal?
02:51:06.680
No, I think any kind of illegal immigrant should be held accountable no matter whether they're violent or not.
02:51:13.240
If you cross this border and you're illegal, you should be held accountable.
02:51:16.480
So why doesn't Trump have to be held accountable?
02:51:21.020
So you don't agree with the judges and the court and the whole system?
02:51:33.440
How is it hers very weak when you don't have substantial, like, good backup evidence?
02:51:40.180
We talked about the evidence at the beginning of the episode.
02:52:03.340
At this table, we're going off of credentialism?
02:52:07.680
I'm just talking about the fallacies in your argument.
02:52:14.700
What's the fallacy that I believe that illegal immigrants should be held accountable for
02:52:35.240
It's like, if you want to try to silence, say, a political opponent, then you can basically
02:52:42.360
do a phishing investigation, and you can just try to...
02:52:46.200
Look, if you look into, basically, if a prosecutor looks into, basically, any politician, if they
02:52:52.640
were so inclined, or really even just a normal person off the street, the government can find...
02:52:59.480
If the government wants to, they'll find something to charge you with.
02:53:04.160
They could look into you and find some crime to charge you with.
02:53:09.400
Maybe you did something a little fishy with your taxes.
02:53:18.320
So, lawfare would basically be, you're looking at somebody, and, you know, there's all these
02:53:24.660
Somebody, you know, you dig deep enough, you'll find something to charge somebody with.
02:53:30.180
And the reason for it is not because of some seeking of true, genuine justice.
02:53:37.940
It's a political opponent, and you want to attempt to silence them.
02:53:42.280
If you think he had so much on him, like, there was actually anything violent or serious
02:53:47.480
that he was doing, wouldn't you think they would have gotten him on that and not...
02:54:01.000
It was 34 counts were the same type of crime, falsifying business records.
02:54:07.460
They couldn't get him on anything else, so they went after bank documents?
02:54:11.440
The prosecution alleged Trump made or caused false...
02:54:21.860
I accidentally didn't sign the back of my IRS documents last year.
02:54:27.080
Like, if I don't send him back within the next two weeks, that's...
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I could get some kind of penalty on that, probably a felony.
02:54:36.260
He's the president, though, and has, like, a whole team.
02:54:44.280
I think we should hold our presidents and political figures to a higher standard.
02:54:50.660
Hold them to a standard, that's fine, but hold everybody to a standard.
02:54:55.940
You think Trump will be in history books the same way Stalin is.
02:55:05.060
For his second term, he's been in office for one year.
02:55:23.720
Doesn't really seem, like, particularly authoritarian or fascist.
02:55:28.320
You don't think that deploying the National Guard and all that is fascist?
02:55:38.900
Do you think that there's been massive amounts of, like, suppression of protests?
02:55:44.060
Or have there been multiple No King's Days protests that have happened?
02:55:56.540
Yeah, if you fucking go on the highway and block the highway...
02:56:02.260
You block emergency vehicles who are literally trying to bring people to the hospital.
02:56:08.400
Yeah, you guys, you protesters, you go on the highway, you block roads.
02:56:17.420
The Democrat opposition has not been abolished.
02:56:20.820
He hasn't dismantled his opposing political parties.
02:56:31.200
MSNB, all these fucking left-wing media news outlets.
02:56:52.240
I mean, hey, if when he leaves office, nothing has happened,
02:57:08.120
The only person that was killed was Ashley Babbitt,
02:57:22.620
But that was a walking tour through the Capitol.
02:57:25.160
Do you think what happened on, was it January 6th,
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do you think that that was worse than the weeks
02:58:00.900
I mean, but you must have been aware of the mass protests.
02:58:03.140
I didn't pay attention to the news and stuff at the time.
02:58:25.960
The views expressed by the soup chatters, by the way, are not necessarily endorsed or
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Blacks need to be imprisoned for the most part.
02:58:56.680
Looks like Streamlabs changed your language a little bit.
02:59:09.420
I think he's going to have to kill probably like, you know, he's...
02:59:17.500
You think in the next three years he's going to kill like 10 to 20 million people?
02:59:21.300
I think there is going to be mass casualties because of his actions, yes.
02:59:27.420
While Trump is in office, you think 10 to 20 million people are going to die?
02:59:33.720
I mean, I didn't say 10 to 20 million, but I think there will be mass casualties, yes.
02:59:51.420
Do you think Trump is going to round up trans people and kill them?
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As I said, I think it's like the start of not being in Germany.
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It's a coin flip that Donald Trump is going to round up the gays and transgenders and immigrants
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He's the first president that was okay with gay marriage.
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He was the first president that was actually okay with gay marriage.
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And he's also tried to make trans healthcare less accessible to children.
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I think it's fair for people on the left, for Democrats, for liberals.
03:00:46.180
Look, I think it's fair for you to have your position on immigration.
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But to actually believe that Donald Trump is going to round up trans people and gays and immigrants and murk them is ridiculous.
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You're like, oh, it hasn't happened yet, so it's never going to happen.
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They didn't just start off by gassing all the Jews.
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It might be evidently suggesting you didn't do that at all.
03:01:27.360
It is—it's actually—it's insulting to your own—it should be insulting to your own—I don't know what the right word is.
03:01:36.900
Like, it should be insulting to Jewish people for you to make a comparison of Hitler to Trump.
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No, a lot of Jewish people I know agree with me.
03:01:50.540
Like, whoa, the severity of what happened in Nazi Germany, right?
03:01:55.780
To compare relative—like, Trump is milquetoast, completely milquetoast.
03:02:05.580
Because he's a populist, you can't—how do you compare Trump to 1930s Germany?
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Turning people against people who don't look like them.
03:02:29.180
The two people that have been talking about right-wing things—
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Aside from the Jimmy Kimmel thing, which was a complete blip on the radar, can you point
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to an actual suppression of opposition that Trump did—
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I mean, you just gave yourself one right there.
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In the grand scheme of things, it's not relevant.
03:02:56.240
Because people were pissed, but they tried to do it.
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That's—then the suppression was a complete and total failure.
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And you said there's no checks and balances, except that was checked and balanced.
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It was checked and balanced by the people, not by the government.
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So, then you would have to say, like, did you vote Democrat in 2020?
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You voted for Biden in 2020, and you voted for Kamala in 2024.
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So, throughout the 2020s, there was massive amounts of suppression coming from the Biden
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As I said, I wouldn't consider myself a Democrat.
03:03:46.040
Okay, you voted in a president who had Nazi tendencies because they were suppressing oppositional
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I voted for them because I think Trump is worse.
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I would not—if we had another choice, I would go for the other choice.
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You know, Hitler was also a vegetarian, I believe.
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Is, you know, is that your justification for his—him basically being Hitler?
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I don't think it's a dumb question because it's just basically a slippery slope fallacy.
03:04:35.920
You're saying, well, it's—there's similarities.
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Just because we're enforcing law and you're scared of the, like, one aspect of it immediately
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You're also judging somebody based off of something they never did.
03:05:01.820
It's based off of what they are currently doing.
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No, I've said plenty of other things that I disagree with.
03:05:26.860
Okay, but have you not, like, seen how much ice that they're putting out right now?
03:05:39.980
But it seems like people are only up in arms now because they don't like—
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If you heard speeches from Obama in the 2010s or Clinton back in the 90s, even Hillary Clinton—I mean, she didn't win the election.
03:05:59.040
But when she was running, they were very—like, there was, I think, a speech from Obama, even, where he was pretty strong on deportation and pretty strong on, you know, against illegal immigration.
03:06:13.160
So, I mean, it just seems like, look, he's the opposition leader.
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And, you know, even though that this is something that was happening in previous administrations, only now that it's the opposition, now it's a problem.
03:06:26.460
It's just because the level that it's gotten to, it's gotten so much worse.
03:06:37.460
Have you seen all the ICE vehicles patrolling around?
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I think this is what happens when you look at everything through an emotional lens.
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Because she said she loves that they're getting rounded up.
03:06:54.020
Well, but you're just, like, out there, like, oh, yes, please get all the brown people.
03:07:17.660
Guys, let's have a question and just remember that not everybody at this table is neurotypical.
03:07:25.720
The Supreme Court recently ruled that skin color, language, and workplace were valid reason
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or concern to deport or detain somebody on the, you know, in the search for detainees.
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So based on skin color, based on the language that they're speaking, based on the type of
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I have a more pale immigrant friend, it was actually, she was Swiss, I believe.
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Her parent, her mom was Swiss, and they were going after her and her, you know, less legitimate
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paperwork and, you know, being concerned about that.
03:08:06.880
So overall, it is not just limited to brown people, but the Supreme Court ruling that opens
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So I'm fine with saying, you know, there shouldn't be, what is the term called in policing?
03:08:32.040
Let's go ahead and just go ahead and grant that's wrong.
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Now, once they've made the determination, though, that somebody happens to be, whether they're
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white, whether they're brown, whatever it is, that they have come to a determination
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that the person is an illegal immigrant, shall we go ahead and deport them since they are here
03:08:49.100
We can deport them as long as it does not fall under cruel and unusual punishment.
03:08:56.340
The Constitution protects all people, not just American citizens, against cruel and unusual
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And under my ethical purview, no, deporting somebody is not cruel and it's certainly not
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It's not uncommon for countries to deport illegal immigrants.
03:09:57.620
If we're putting people in unsafe conditions, that is cruel.
03:10:04.120
Now, assuming that we put them in safe conditions, can we go ahead and deport them?
03:10:13.540
If we're deporting them to a safe place, then that is not cruel.
03:10:18.840
So I'm guessing your main gripe here is going to be sea caught, right?
03:10:22.180
Um, a lot of my research has surrounded Alligator Alcatraz, the one in Florida.
03:10:29.520
I think it got shut down, so isn't the point kind of...
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Blacks need to be imprisoned for the most part.
03:11:02.080
I don't think we're going to agree with that specific thing.
03:11:08.260
And that's the thing, is bigotry is running rampant.
03:11:12.220
Anti-male rhetoric from feminists is running rampant.
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My opinion is that to be racist, there has to be a history of oppression towards that people.
03:11:55.420
Like, the reason that, you know, being racist towards a black person is racist is because there's a history of white people oppressing black people.
03:12:03.220
I don't think there's a history of white people being oppressed in America.
03:12:06.440
Okay, so would you acknowledge that there's different types of racism?
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But, no, I don't think you can be racist towards white people because there's no history of oppression for white people in the United States.
03:12:34.800
First, if a white person were to walk up to a black person, how complicated is this procedure?
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If a white person were to walk up to a black person and punch that black person in the face because they're black, would you say that that's racist?
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A black person walks up to a white person and punches them in the face because they're white.
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I don't think it can be the actual definition of racist because there's no history of...
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It's being hateful towards someone, but I think for actual racism, there has to be a history of oppression towards those people.
03:13:15.600
So your definition of racism, is it prejudice plus power?
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Yeah, you do realize that this is a newly manufactured definition of racism that is not commonly understood, like in just the common sense understanding of racism?
03:13:32.220
I think that it's a pretty common understanding of racism.
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I'll Google the definition of racism, just so I'm not like pulling one out in my own definition.
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So, hold on, prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group.
03:14:01.500
So, it doesn't mention anything about historical oppression there.
03:14:08.780
But as you said, there is definitions that do include that.
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Well, not so much definitions, but, you know, I believe there's individualized racism, and then there's this systemic racism.
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In America, you think white people have been oppressed?
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Jewish people were clearly oppressed in Europe.
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I'm talking about in America, because each place has different people that they've oppressed.
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Like, it's not always the same race as getting oppressed throughout different countries.
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So, Irish and Italian immigrants here definitely faced oppression.
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But I'm not really interested in the systemic level here.
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I'm asking you, even on an individual level, there's individual racism.
03:15:40.800
And I asked you, if a black person punches a white person or kills them, for example, because they're white, you say, no, that's not racism.
03:15:49.200
Well, if we're not going off systemic racism, I guess it would be like a hate crime.
03:15:53.620
But why is it the case that if, on an individual level, a white person walks up to a black person, punches them in the face, you say that's racist.
03:16:03.600
Systemic racism would be like an institution barring black people from being in the institution, right?
03:16:09.220
So, I'm talking on the individual level of racism, where a black person walks up to a white person, punches them in the face.
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Or, well, that's what I asked you if it was, but is that your definition?
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So, you're saying you need to have, your group needs to have power in society, and only then, even on an individual level,
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you can be racist to somebody on an individual level?
03:17:04.280
Can black people be racist towards Asian people?
03:17:09.740
But Asian people have a pretty good socioeconomic position in the United States.
03:17:21.420
I think anyone who's not white faces judgment and oppression.
03:17:33.380
So, what if you're a first-generation immigrant, and you just came here five years ago?
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Do you think the United States is currently systemically oppressive to Filipinos?
03:17:47.160
Do you think the United States is currently actively systemically oppressive?
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I think, personally, there is personal racism towards Asian people.
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Like, there's going to be people who are racist.
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If Barack Obama, when he was president, refused to hire white janitors at the White House, would this be evidence of systemic oppression?
03:18:28.640
So, just to be clear, your definition of oppression, or sorry, racism.
03:18:33.820
Because there's not a history of it in society.
03:18:44.000
Yeah, I mean, I don't know how much ground we're going to actually be able to get, because your definition is completely ridiculous and not widely accepted.
03:18:52.880
So, this is, I think, a thing where you basically just redefine the terms of the conversation to suit your worldview, so that you basically can never be—you're just redefining terms.
03:19:03.080
I mean, that's what I've learned and I've been taught.
03:19:12.920
We should completely get rid of college subsidies.
03:19:15.580
This is ridiculous that we're teaching college students that a black person can't be racist to a white person or a white person can never experience racism in the United States.
03:19:26.380
If I go to Africa where I—let's say I go to Nigeria or Kenya and, I don't know, the—a black person in Kenya beats me up because I'm white.
03:19:43.840
Because you're not—you're not the person in power.
03:19:49.020
It just seems like such an arbitrary—totally arbitrary.
03:19:53.240
Okay, so I can't—so if I go to a country where white people aren't the majority, I can face racism there.
03:20:03.820
Okay, so I don't know why we need to muddy the waters with these, like, retooled definitions of racism.
03:20:15.340
But—so you're saying white people can't experience racism in the United States?
03:20:30.820
Just because you haven't, like, experienced it, that doesn't mean, like—it happens.
03:20:38.980
Like, it's not like a poor, it's like a mature.
03:20:41.200
You see a bunch of people going up and calling white people slurs because they're white?
03:20:45.080
Because I've never once seen that in my life or heard of it.
03:20:47.480
Just because you live in, like, money and money.
03:20:50.920
We have a Trumper here and got literally murdered.
03:20:56.920
We had a woman who was on, like, the subway or something.
03:21:10.140
It's because he was having a mental health crisis.
03:21:12.040
It's interesting how you can be charitable when the narrative doesn't suit you.
03:21:16.160
But if somebody was having, like, a conservative was having a mental health crisis and they, like,
03:21:20.680
murked a POC, if a person murked a POC, you'd be like, oh, my God, this is clear-cut evidence
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If they were having a mental health crisis, I would say the same thing.
03:21:32.340
So that's okay if they're having a mental health crisis?
03:21:36.020
But that's not – they're not doing it because of the race.
03:21:38.140
They're doing it because they're having a mental health crisis.
03:21:44.560
Yeah, they said that that's why he was doing it.
03:21:47.020
Couldn't we just, like, hand-wave away any sort of – I think anybody who's inclined
03:21:52.180
towards murder, couldn't we just say everyone is going through a bit of a mental health crisis?
03:21:57.120
I mean, I'm pretty sure he was in a full psychotic episode from what they reported
03:22:01.040
and his history, what his people who knew him said.
03:22:07.220
Yeah, which I don't agree with either because people had –
03:22:10.020
That says that he was a danger because of his mental health.
03:22:26.940
Do you think if she was black, do you think she would have been murdered?
03:22:32.980
I think it was just who was around him when he was having his issues.
03:22:44.740
Well, we – I think we can be willing to grant that he was going through a mental health crisis.
03:22:48.960
But I do think it's the case if she was a black woman, probably wouldn't have killed her.
03:23:04.440
I think it started – you were saying you can't be sexist towards men or something.
03:23:09.300
Yeah, I don't know if I would actually classify myself as a misandrist because, like, I've tried my best to establish.
03:23:15.980
I really do aim for peace and joy and bliss for everybody.
03:23:21.320
But at the end of the day, I don't really – and I have a lot of men that I – I have all of two or three men that I love dearly.
03:23:31.580
I don't think that women can be sexist to men because there could be –
03:23:42.860
Can a white woman be sexist towards a black man?
03:23:53.320
Yeah, there's a fetishization of black men by white women.
03:24:00.280
Well, who's more oppressed, black men or white women?
03:24:04.860
A lot of people actually describe it as a diamond.
03:24:07.480
So, like, white men at the top here, white women here, black men here, and then black women at the bottom.
03:24:14.360
Historically, from a historical standard – well, even modern day, I would make the case – you think that white women had it worse than black men?
03:24:31.580
Wouldn't black men have to be here, white women here?
03:24:34.820
You can make the argument for either one because black men – yeah, black men, slaves, got the right to vote before any woman did.
03:24:47.980
It's true because the amendments came in a certain order, I guess.
03:24:53.300
That part is true, but obviously women, white women specifically, will make that specific distinction, white women versus black men.
03:25:06.020
Not in the same way that black men or black people were.
03:25:08.820
So, I don't know if not having voting rights a few years earlier than women –
03:25:17.000
Although there's – I think there's some dispute as to, like, in practice, a lot of black people actually didn't have quite as much access to the right to vote until, like, later periods of time.
03:25:26.880
So, whereas women had – what's the word for it?
03:25:38.020
Like, practically speaking, white women had – from a practical perspective, enfranchisement more than black men did.
03:25:51.700
I would say that that's more than likely the case.
03:25:54.680
Do you believe that all people have the right to vote?
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I just wanted to know what standpoint we were coming at that point.
03:26:05.080
Yeah, if they're living in a country, they should be able to vote for what happens in their country and community.
03:26:11.420
I don't understand, though, how a woman can't be sexist towards men.
03:26:17.740
Well, I think that it's kind of similar in the way – to the way that a white person can't be racist to a black person.
03:26:27.180
So, once again, it comes with the redefining of the term racism, the term sexism.
03:26:38.300
That's what debate is, is thought and thinking and analyzing yourself.
03:26:46.100
If I just redefine – so, I want to redefine necrophilia as – I define necrophilia as anybody named – your name's Caitlin?
03:27:17.720
But it would serve me massively to be able to label you as a necrophiliac.
03:27:23.180
Like, that would be really – like, that would be like an optics win to be like, I'm fucking dunking on this person who, like, fucks corpses and shit.
03:27:31.080
Well, no, because I'm a necrophiliac because my name is Caitlin, not because I fuck corpses at that point.
03:27:36.480
Yeah, but people's understanding of the term necrophilia is something besides that.
03:27:41.880
Well, if we're establishing your definition here and you're – and then you use that –
03:27:49.220
Yeah, but if you've butchered the definition of racism so much that it basically – it only suits your worldview, then it basically just means nothing.
03:27:59.940
Well, you said that the racism, sexism thing, it's like you can't be racist towards men.
03:28:07.620
It's because you've completely changed this definition to have to incorporate some sort of historical oppression.
03:28:16.060
I don't see – like, that's never been the standard for what racism is.
03:28:21.440
And if you ask most people, that's not what it is.
03:28:23.600
This is a new invention by woke people like you who want to butcher language.
03:28:34.880
You're right that it's arbitrary and it's not super strong to shift the semantics around just because of the historical context.
03:28:51.800
I was going to ask, were you pointing at me or her?
03:28:55.860
So I was actually going to ask because it seems like you might disagree with her opinion on – can you give us, like, your definition of it?
03:29:04.860
Because it seems like you disagree with her on it.
03:29:06.420
Yeah, I do disagree – I disagree with her arguments.
03:29:17.320
I just make sure – I want to make sure we're not arguing with somebody over something you don't even believe.
03:29:43.640
Here, I want to – I don't know if this is pasty.
03:29:55.780
Is it sexist for women to cross the street at night to avoid men?
03:29:59.620
Why is the same not true for white people to cross the street to avoid black people?
03:30:18.700
Both – the purpose behind both of those actions is for safety.
03:30:22.340
Now, the white person crossing the street, their lack of a sense of safety is coming from things like scapegoating and propaganda that they've been fallen victim to.
03:30:33.540
Women crossing the street for safety is coming from either their personal lived experience or the lived experience of women around them.
03:30:47.760
You're basically saying justified for women to cross the street because they've had their own bad experiences with men and then they've heard bad experiences with other women and maybe they can look at crime statistics and those crime statistics will actually show that men do perpetrate some crimes more often or at a disproportionate rate.
03:31:22.360
It's okay for women to have fear or to cross the street because their own personal bad experiences and crime statistics.
03:31:37.900
What's stopping a white person who's had a bad experience with a black person and then pointing to crime statistics, which do seem to indicate that black people per capita commit certain violent crimes more often than white people?
03:31:48.180
What's preventing them – which, by the way, just to be clear, I don't think that – I think racism is wrong.
03:31:56.280
But from your perspective, your frame, your lens, what would actually be wrong with a white person from arriving at a – basically a racist position?
03:32:09.820
There's nothing wrong with it, a white person being racist against black people?
03:32:18.240
So there's nothing wrong with white people being racist if they meet your two criteria.
03:32:22.840
They have a bad experience with a black person, and they can show you crime statistics that show that black people commit certain crimes more often than white people.
03:32:31.400
I'm saying that it is justifiable for white people, people in general, to act in a way that they feel protects their safety to a certain extent.
03:32:41.240
Now, the reasoning behind that is – can be either logical and – well, regardless, within this argument, it's fear-based.
03:32:56.440
Now, does that mean it's right or – yeah, for both.
03:33:01.320
Not all these men that I'm avoiding in the street are going to be bad and murderous.
03:33:07.320
But does that make it unethical for me to cross the street?
03:33:13.600
And a white person, like I said, they're coming from two different standpoints.
03:33:20.420
White – like the percentages and statistics are different from men, you know, white men, you know, being afraid of men versus being afraid of white people in general.
03:33:34.360
I mean, you would have to – there's differences in statistics.
03:33:38.080
You'd basically just have to make the same exact logical allowance, though.
03:33:42.460
So, if you – if the allowance for women is you had a bad experience with a man or multiple men, you have your own anecdotal – your own experience.
03:33:50.980
You can even include in that you had a friend or multiple friends who have had bad experiences with men.
03:33:57.120
And then the other thing is you can be like, well, it's not just my own experience.
03:34:05.400
So, logically, you would have to make an allowance, the same allowance for white people as it relates to race.
03:34:16.820
Well, why ask me the same question three times?
03:34:18.780
Well, if you're fine with that, that's an interesting one.
03:34:25.220
Not against men, because you don't believe that women can be sexist towards men.
03:34:31.880
I think that the way that I picture it is more on a systemic level, but you're right.
03:34:37.240
On the individual level, I will say that men – women can be sexist against men.
03:34:43.620
Anya, I'm going to have you read these two chats.
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Scott Besant, a man, the Secretary of Treasury, was appointed by Trump, who literally has a husband.
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Plus, communists will never understand humans are inherently evil.
03:35:06.540
Brian, you need to watch the interview of ex-KGB Yuri Bezmenov with your panel right now.
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He describes the BS that chair number two is spewing.
03:35:16.740
It will clear up this stupid round and round you are having.
03:35:24.080
I'm familiar with the interview you're referencing.
03:35:28.680
I mean, so much of discourse with, like, leftists or progressives is basically them just not, like, intentionally misunderstanding you.
03:35:40.680
But, okay, let's move it on to – let's move it on to this.
03:35:48.180
Charlie Kirk, or pretending to, like, not understand what you're talking about or whatever.
03:35:54.580
Really quick, because I recall while I was away, Charlie Kirk came up.
03:35:59.440
I know it was a while ago at this point, but what do you think about what happened to Charlie?
03:36:03.560
I think that we should have stricter gun protections to prevent things like that.
03:36:17.120
I'm just – there seems to be a bit – I detect a hesitation.
03:36:19.120
I don't like what he – I don't like the rhetoric that he spread.
03:36:22.440
I think that's fine to disagree with Charlie Kirk, but it seems like you're holding back a little bit on something.
03:36:36.380
Well, I don't think that there's an obligation for people who dislike somebody to mourn that person if something happens.
03:36:45.460
But I think that's still not quite getting at maybe how you really feel.
03:36:55.920
Honestly, I can answer that truthfully and say no, because, like –
03:37:07.940
And you're the bulwark – I don't know if – am I saying that?
03:37:12.020
You're the bulwark of, like, moral – like, you giggled when somebody was assassinated?
03:37:17.440
You want good rights and you want everyone to be, like –
03:37:21.640
Well, here, can we – what's going on with the chair?
03:37:29.680
Well, before we get into that, what are your thoughts?
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Maybe you wouldn't do it, but can you understand – like, do you think it was justified?
03:37:42.940
I could see what thought process would lead someone to that, but I don't agree with it whatsoever.
03:37:52.300
Do you think people rejoicing in his death, do you think that's justified?
03:37:57.940
Once again, I can see why, but I don't agree with it.
03:38:04.660
You were probably – you were celebrating, it seems like.
03:38:14.120
Yeah, I mean, look, there's people I strongly disagree with, but I wouldn't want any – like, anybody to be – like, for example, Kamala Harris.
03:38:26.020
Like, that would be fucking terrible if she was – she had been assassinated or something.
03:38:30.080
Like, I wouldn't be – I wouldn't make jokes about it.
03:38:35.620
Yeah, because, look, with the violence thing, you know, that creates a – what's the right word for it?
03:38:49.560
So, once you start labeling everyone a Nazi, it's okay to punch Nazis because –
03:38:54.980
Well, I think you can punch Nazis, but I wouldn't just shoot someone in the neck for their opinion.
03:38:59.340
But it's that idea – I'm generalizing it, but it's that ideology where –
03:39:08.640
Now, like, knowing all that he did – that's a big, like –
03:39:25.760
Well, as soon as he became – I mean, there's certainly – I don't think there would be any dispute.
03:39:30.460
As soon as he would – Germany became a belligerent nation against the United States, yeah, you could, like, teleport and kill Hitler.
03:39:43.640
There could even be some argument for, you know, at some point even prior – certainly a point prior to that.
03:39:52.360
But if we're saving millions of people, it's, like, one for seven, eight million, I think, after that.
03:40:01.820
I'm still stuck on the fact that you preach peace and you said you giggled when a man got shot.
03:40:07.520
It's very – I'm not going to say I'm, like, the most morally best or whatever, but –
03:40:17.500
There are certain people that you just don't debate with because they don't come to debates with good faith or – like, if you're just – if you're not okay with saying that that is something disgusting
03:40:28.000
and that a mother has – a mother and her two children now have to live without a dad that got brutally murdered in front of his whole country.
03:40:37.040
I'm sorry, dude, but we're not arguing in good faith.
03:40:46.340
But you – don't you – haven't you heard Anya say some really – some things you really disagree with?
03:40:53.540
I've heard her say things I agree with and things I disagree with, yeah.
03:40:59.020
Because she's not – we had this talk when you were gone.
03:41:06.180
I think if you're not actively harming someone, I wouldn't – but if you're actively harming –
03:41:31.040
Can you check, Mary, on – one of you check on the girl?
03:41:34.860
I want to say yes, but I feel like I should say no.
03:41:54.340
But is he 6'5", Chad, well-filled, maxilla on point?
03:42:11.500
I don't think it was the right way to handle it, but I mean, I'm also not going to cry over
03:42:16.300
a CEO who denies people health insurance getting shot.
03:42:24.280
You think he's sitting there going through each claim and saying no, yes, no, yes.
03:42:28.240
But I mean, he built a system that is doing that to people.
03:42:32.580
But they have the highest rate of denying people things that they need.
03:42:38.960
That CEO has the power to make the situation better.
03:42:42.520
And he's instead using the power to make that situation worse.
03:42:53.020
Do you not realize that he had to please the investors?
03:42:56.400
Because a lot of investors, like, they want to save a lot of money to-
03:43:01.760
Look, I think it's fair to be critical of the health care system and the health insurance
03:43:09.020
I have criticisms of the health care system and the health insurance system in the United
03:43:15.420
However, vigilante-ism and just fucking murking a CEO in the street, completely incompatible
03:43:28.520
And you guys are fucking- bro, you guys should not be- we should just- honestly, you're a
03:43:39.200
You guys, we're going to send y'all- I don't know.
03:43:46.520
Do you think it's okay if I- government, I'm not saying I'm doing this, but if I went
03:43:53.440
and pulled a Luigi Mangione on whoever the CEO of Planned Parenthood is?
03:44:04.940
No, well, I haven't done as thorough of analysis.
03:44:12.840
I don't make the decision of what is right or wrong.
03:44:15.460
There are things that I think are more ethically justifiable than not.
03:44:21.340
I think that killing the CEO of Planned Parenthood would be less ethical, I guess, than killing
03:44:36.300
Planned Parenthood has killed millions and millions of babies over the years.
03:44:39.980
Margaret, not Margaret, sorry, Margaret Sanger, she was literally a recorded eugenicist.
03:44:46.760
Obviously, it's not Margaret Sanger now, but it would be a different CEO, but they're still
03:44:53.280
Like how the United Healthcare CEO was not the founder of healthcare, but he's still participating
03:45:02.520
I did see about the founder of Planned Parenthood having some less than ethical choices.
03:45:13.220
And I obviously try my best not to agree with that.
03:45:17.400
However, abortion is an important procedure that we got to maintain access to.
03:45:23.960
As you can make a moral or philosophical argument, but if we're going to take it down to what can
03:45:30.140
be quantified, what can be scientifically understood, then it is more ideal.
03:45:38.400
No, it is necessary to have access, safe access to abortions.
03:45:54.560
So we're saying that men become violent because their women have children?
03:46:01.040
Shouldn't we then go after the men, not the babies that are the innocent victims?
03:46:19.560
It's been going on since before abortion was legal.
03:46:21.880
It's important that we have a safe way for women to do it.
03:46:25.040
But if that was the argument years ago, now women have it for any reason.
03:46:31.600
They have it all the way up to nine months in certain states.
03:46:35.480
Unless it's medically necessary to prevent the death of a woman, they are never giving
03:46:43.840
You can go with a cesarean section in that case.
03:46:50.160
A lot of them are actually, only 1%, under 1% of abortions are actually done for cases
03:47:00.480
Quick final thought on this, but I'll table the abortion topic for later, I guess.
03:47:12.340
I don't have the energy for this panel tonight.
03:47:14.880
What a terrible person to laugh at the death of a person who encouraged conversation in critical
03:47:30.300
It's not like I just came out about it willingly.
03:47:32.240
He, like, probed it out of me real serious, like...
03:47:40.720
Four different times you asked me the question.
03:47:49.160
You're expressive over a man being assassinated.
03:48:27.620
What's stopping your opposition from being like...
03:48:33.780
These people are aborting millions of children, etc., etc.
03:48:53.280
We're going to just do this with force and violence.
03:48:56.180
And realistically, if there was some sort of civil war between the right and the left,
03:49:01.200
who do you guys genuinely think in a hypothetical scenario where the political right and the
03:49:07.600
political left actually went to a violent conflict, who do you think's winning that one?
03:49:19.600
I'm so far left that we didn't get our guns back.
03:49:28.860
Of course, there are people on the left who possess firearms.
03:49:32.020
But do you think, like, in totality, do you think people...
03:49:36.020
Like, do you think it's Republicans or Democrats who own more firearms?
03:49:40.180
Do you think it's conservatives or liberals who own more firearms?
03:49:49.180
And of the men who are on the right, they're probably like...
03:49:54.760
Look, you guys got a lot of soy boys, is what I'm saying.
03:49:58.100
Look, I'm not saying I'm some fucking behemoth, fucking juggernaut.
03:50:03.360
There's dudes on the left who are going to fuck me up, okay?
03:50:23.560
I would hate for it to be the right and the left in the Civil War.
03:50:38.620
You guys have your little riots and your protests and all this stuff and your violence.
03:50:43.620
And, you know, just, you know, hey, you guys have that.
03:50:46.680
But we'll be here making sure society is functioning and running while you guys have your little temper tantrums every couple months.
03:51:06.300
I mean, I know this is kind of a silly example.
03:51:08.380
But the top podcasts are, like, right-wing podcasts.
03:51:16.520
The fundamentalist, Christian, conservative ideology is becoming more popular.
03:51:22.300
I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
03:51:24.760
It's all about, like, we're all getting into common sense.
03:51:45.940
But then after I started to hear both sides, I'm like, I listened to both sides.
03:51:53.200
Like, oh, yeah, like, I'm not, like, I try to be neutral as much as I can.
03:52:01.140
They made it so hard to be on their side, unfortunately.
03:52:04.640
And I really wanted to, you know, because I grew up in a Democratic state, like California.
03:52:12.260
That's how, that's how, that's how, that's the reason why Charlie Kirk died, unfortunately.
03:52:17.840
Because that, I don't, supposedly, if that was the gun, the gunner, we don't know yet.
03:52:23.240
I think that it came out that he was a Republican.
03:52:33.980
His family said that he was a Trump supporter and that their whole family was Republican.
03:52:36.960
Okay, his family was Republican, but that aim was a little good, though.
03:52:42.500
Wait, you think the assassination of Charlie Kirk, you think it was right-wing violence?
03:52:47.220
Yeah, he said that he was a Nick Fuentes fan and that Charlie Kirk wasn't right-wing.
03:52:58.340
And Groyper's never said they're okay with offing Charlie Kirk.
03:53:09.380
But it's pretty clear that the assassin, it was a left-wing.
03:53:17.600
I mean, I don't believe those conspiracy theories.
03:53:23.720
I shouldn't say I'm confident, but I strongly suspect there's not some conspiracy.
03:53:36.320
One more thing, then we'll do more dating stuff.
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Is anybody here like a second-generation immigrant?
03:54:13.960
You were born somewhere else, but you moved here.
03:54:16.080
Second generation would be your parents moved here.
03:54:22.740
Yeah, my parents moved from Mexico and came here, and then I was born here.
03:54:32.040
I guess I'll ask you guys it, but I could maybe open it up to some of the other people
03:54:38.360
If the United States, in a morally neutral, blame-free hypothetical conflict between the
03:54:45.440
United States and the country of your parents' birth or origin,
03:55:01.940
If the United States goes to war with Egypt, it's America?
03:55:12.220
Like, you know, I hear other people say, like, they'll choose, like, their other home country,
03:55:16.940
but for me, I got racist, like, not, like, maybe racism from my own community because
03:55:23.520
I wasn't part, oh, like, I got bullied as, like, elementary school because I was too
03:55:31.660
They, you know, of course, like, I'm going to choose America.
03:55:36.080
I never lived in Mexico, so why would I choose Mexico?
03:55:41.260
I know you guys aren't, like, Mexican or anything.
03:55:46.220
If the United States went to war with Mexico, where would your allegiance lie, the United
03:55:58.420
I am anti-war, but I would want the United States to survive and come through.
03:56:06.800
What if the United States went to war with Palestine?
03:56:13.540
And does not have the capacity to be at war, especially with somebody as far away as we
03:56:22.000
In the hypothetical, hypothetically, let's say that we did.
03:56:25.480
The guys in, the little eensy-weensy bit that's left of Palestine has the military power
03:56:34.960
I would be, here, let's use, I'll gently redirect us to a real world example with the
03:56:44.840
That was a small, weaker country that actually had some military, we wouldn't think that
03:56:50.340
it had military advantage, but they did end up kind of whooping our ass.
03:57:21.620
Like, do you think there was urgency with the evacuation in Afghanistan?
03:57:26.580
Like, it wasn't just like, ah, we're just going to lollygag here for a little bit and
03:57:31.920
It was like, nah, we got to get the fuck out of here.
03:58:03.900
But if you had to pick one, your allegiance had to be to one or the other.
03:58:08.160
The United States or Palestine, where's your allegiance?
03:58:37.780
Even if you're a citizen, like, I think if your allegiance isn't to the United States,
03:58:42.940
You know, look, if the U.S. goes to war, I think it's okay to...
03:58:47.400
Like, you could be against the war or whatever, but your allegiance should remain to your country.
03:58:58.580
They don't have allegiance, though, to the United States.
03:59:01.320
If you're not willing to say, I pledge allegiance to the flag...
03:59:08.540
Maybe the Palestine thing, it's so ridiculous, right?
03:59:15.280
Would you consider yourself more socialist or even communist?
03:59:20.820
Would you prefer living under, like, a regime...
03:59:23.160
So China, I guess, I don't know, they're not really fully, like, they're not, you know,
03:59:29.700
the communist, the Chinese Communist Party, whatever.
03:59:33.980
They're, like, you know, they're kind of whatever.
03:59:38.680
They have certain social policies in, like, their housing, from what I understand, and
03:59:43.000
then they call themselves the Communist Party, but they still operate under capitalism within
03:59:50.400
So, but would you say that, like, China, they're more based than the United States?
04:00:00.780
No, because they have a lot of what they call, like, a surveillance state.
04:00:06.680
Wouldn't you need that to get your communism going, though?
04:00:13.760
Like I said, my morality isn't always the strongest, but I would not want that.
04:00:19.140
What country do you think has a better system than the United States?
04:00:24.500
There's a lot of European countries that have decent systems that have...
04:00:36.620
Finland invades the United States with their military might.
04:00:41.900
To you acknowledging that, I don't know, whatever, let's just say...
04:00:52.820
So, it's not, I don't know, it's fucking neutral.
04:01:05.220
And Finland's like, we gotta liberate these fucking...
04:01:14.980
And these Republicans and conservatives, we're worried about them.
04:01:27.400
He's gonna be in the history books like Stalin.
04:01:34.760
You say that Trump will go down in the history books like Stalin.
04:01:44.760
It's basically the same as, you know, 1930s Germany as the United States right now.
04:01:56.300
Wouldn't it be fair if that's what you believe?
04:01:58.440
Like, what if these other countries think like you think?
04:02:07.520
Yeah, so they come in, and they're like, we're gonna...
04:02:10.580
Just like how, I guess, Trump did to Venezuela recently.
04:02:17.320
We're going to invade the United States, Finland, and maybe it can be a coalition of European powers.
04:02:23.400
Although, honestly, I'm pretty sure the United States could, like, smoke multiple theaters of war at the same time and, like, just...
04:02:34.360
You're trying to sanitize this hypothetical so much.
04:02:40.460
I was like, the United States can operate in, like, multiple theaters of war and just, like, fucking smoke everybody.
04:02:54.860
He is rounding up the transgenders, the they-thems, the zur-zems.
04:03:04.660
You know, at this point, Europe is actually Islamic at this point in the hypothetical.
04:03:15.600
They're like, we can't let Trump, because Trump is xenophobic.
04:03:20.860
It's Europeans, but it's basically Muslims, right?
04:03:24.060
We can't let Trump, because Trump is xenophobic against, like, brown people, like you said.
04:03:42.880
European, European coalition comes in, invades the United States, fucking drones the shit
04:04:06.560
You guys are, deport, we're fucking deporting y'all, bro.
04:04:12.840
Listen, if your rights were at risk, right, and this is a situation that we're-
04:04:18.340
I listened and sat through your five minute hypothetical.
04:04:21.140
You can sit through my 30 second one, all right?
04:04:23.620
If your rights were at risk, and you're living in a country, by the hands of the country
04:04:27.800
that you're living in, that you're a citizen of, and a country comes in wanting to defend
04:04:32.240
your rights, you're going to side with who's going to protect your rights.
04:04:37.540
Wait, so from your perspective, this hypothetical European coalition, they would be liberators
04:04:44.760
of left-wing liberal people in the United States.
04:04:50.880
No, but the right-wing, the right-wing, no, okay, hold on.
04:05:01.080
So I was creating, maybe I should have just fucking just made it super simple.
04:05:09.640
As the United States, not some like crazy hypothetical where, but what you believe the
04:05:15.820
So you said Trump is Hitler 2.0, basically, in essence.
04:05:20.280
You said Trump will go down in the history books, just like in the same vein that Stalin
04:05:26.420
So from your perspective, would you welcome a European coalition to prevent what you think
04:05:33.980
So, okay, so not just like in reality, if some European or global coalition came in and
04:05:41.940
said, whoa, what is about to happen, what we think is about to happen is dangerous, even
04:05:47.760
though really there's no evidence for this at all, you guys would side with an invading
04:05:54.320
force coming into, invading the United Continent, well, I guess they could get Alaska and Hawaii
04:06:23.980
Like it's like basically you're saying, I'm going to go with Japan, even though they were
04:06:27.700
like siding with the, like Germany, like in World War II, what would you, what would your
04:06:35.540
If Japan bombed America, well, Japan did bomb America, would you side with America or Japan?
04:06:49.860
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, you don't know
04:07:08.420
So I'm not creating any other variables in the hypothetical.
04:07:14.620
Just as America currently is now, but in a hypothetical where America just progressed
04:07:20.900
as it would progress, you would be fine with a coalition of other nations invading the
04:07:52.680
Would you be in favor of an uprising, a left-wing uprising attempting to a coup d'etat, a violent
04:08:12.180
Foreign nations can violently overthrow, but not internal.
04:08:35.420
It was baked into the hypothetical I posed to you.
04:08:43.460
You're making me pick sides on this when I said that I'm not for like war of violence
04:08:48.040
So if I have to pick a side on it, I will go with yes.
04:09:00.400
Internal forces in the United States violently overthrowing the Trump administration.
04:09:14.760
If that's your position, you could not possibly have an objection to the right people on the
04:09:21.520
right suppressing just basically being like, you know what?
04:09:25.440
This is a dictatorship now and we're not having another election.
04:09:31.760
Logically, you couldn't actually have an objection to that.
04:09:38.180
Well, your objection would rest in a different, a differing of ideology, but you're saying
04:09:44.900
the me, like it, it, it's from your perspective, violence is justified to get your, your political
04:09:53.200
perspective and worldview to, and to, uh, tear down the existing.
04:10:02.940
But I said, if I'm having to pick one, I will go with, yeah.
04:10:07.360
Versus letting the next few years run their time and there'll be another election and the
04:10:14.400
If you think there's going to be another election.
04:10:16.600
Do you genuinely think there's not going to be an election in 2028?
04:10:19.320
He already has said he's considering running for a third term.
04:10:31.540
And he's never cared about what the rules are before.
04:10:37.000
He laughed the first time after he was a troll.
04:10:46.800
Have you seen the memes when he caught like the president, the Venezuelan president?
04:10:50.780
He was posting some like good as, I mean, good memes, funny memes, like trolling.
04:10:58.560
I mean, you have to admit, even if you hate him, he's funny.
04:11:04.400
You, logically, you couldn't actually have an objection outside of it being just a different perspective.
04:11:18.400
Uh, no, I don't think that we should, uh, like, even if it would, like, even if I could get all the things that I want.
04:11:26.680
Yeah, I don't think that we should do some sort of, uh, you know, we're going to completely disregard the processes.
04:11:41.020
And certainly not do, like, a violent overthrow, uh, in furtherance of that.
04:11:51.900
Open the door to the other side being okay with that, though.
04:11:58.220
Y'all should not be the side being like, yeah, I'm okay with, we should handle our disagreements with violence.
04:12:22.800
I need to wait until everybody, what's going on with.
04:12:30.980
Uh, how about you have her come back and she can just explain what's going on and if she's
04:12:44.080
We're just getting something sorted there really quick.
04:12:46.580
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04:13:23.800
So what's, what's going, what's, what's going on?
04:13:31.240
You, is it your first time hearing, uh, differing opinions or?
04:13:35.680
Um, I'm just not seeking being an internet personality.
04:13:40.060
Um, you know, I don't even post my face on my Instagram.
04:13:48.320
Well, we're pretty much done with a lot of the more, I mean, I was, it kind of, the conversation
04:13:55.560
I wasn't anticipating it would last quite that long.
04:13:57.460
But we're getting into some more of the, more of the dating stuff.
04:14:36.140
I mean, I think, you know, if women are these strong boss babe, I think you're doing a disservice
04:14:44.160
to like the women's movement and empowerment by leaving.
04:14:48.400
Like, I think you staying here, despite you maybe feeling a bit uncomfortable or not wanting
04:14:52.500
to talk about this, I think actually would, like if you leave, that's like, you know,
04:15:03.780
I'm just trying to advocate for myself and my needs.
04:15:08.300
I'm just saying, I'm just saying like, you know, maybe this is why the wage gap exists.
04:15:12.360
Maybe this is like, like, do we really want, like, if you can't handle this, like, should
04:15:23.140
Like, I, I can't, um, I guess we can do some adjustments now here.
04:15:44.420
Well, Brian, you're being quite ableist right now.
04:15:52.480
She's going to take, she's going to, you're going to basically be sitting where she was
04:16:21.540
So, and let's also, maybe, we're going to take a mic off.
04:16:55.600
I, from a harm reduction perspective, I, I feel my mental health has, because she left,
04:17:06.160
Like, it harms my mental health when people leave the podcast.
04:17:20.760
Uh, ask, ask everyone to rate their own looks, face, body, total, on a scale of one, excuse
04:17:55.500
So, you say, like, ten face, ten body, ten, or, you know, whatever it is for, for all of
04:18:01.320
Nine face, ten body, nine and some change, nine and three quarters, total, average, median,
04:18:37.300
Five and a half, yeah, if you average it, yeah, five and a half.
04:18:39.800
Uh, we'd do five face, body, we'd do, like, seven, so, like, five, six.
04:18:50.800
I feel like I have a nine body and, like, a six face, but wouldn't that come to seven
04:19:09.580
I'll say face, like, eight, body, like, 6.5, so, like, a total of, like, seven point
04:19:19.900
Face, face, eight, body, seven, or 6.5, you said?
04:19:27.300
I'll say eight face, eight body, so, eight total.
04:19:32.540
Um, I would say face, six, body, eight, so, whatever that is in the middle.
04:19:57.180
Look, why, why don't, why don't average women just view themselves as average?
04:20:13.700
You get, well, you do realize there's, like, obese women who make money as, like, plus weight
04:20:20.880
You know, are we going to quantify, quantify the beauty standard on all levels right now?
04:20:27.400
Yes, I have my little big ears, but I love them, and people have complimented me on them
04:20:32.820
So, it's like, I can, I've learned to appreciate what used to be my insecurities, what used
04:20:54.560
So, you would be so substantially, like, you would be doing my bloodline massive favor.
04:21:01.820
Like, you know, if we were dating, you're, you're doing me major solid.
04:21:13.340
No, but I, I wonder why can't, why don't average women just be like, eh, you know, I'm average.
04:21:24.760
There was actually some research done recently that.
04:21:32.660
Um, most people will say that they're a 7, whether they're above a 7 or below a 7.
04:21:43.440
I'm just saying that people think they're average, whether or not they're average.
04:21:48.640
So, it's like, really, everybody thinks they're average.
04:21:56.720
Yeah, honestly, like, looking at this table, um, I, I'm gonna be honest.
04:22:07.060
Some of you might be a little bit above average, but almost everybody at best is average at this table.
04:22:20.840
Only if, yeah, can I, you fine with, I'll give you a rating and I'll be, I'm not gonna be a dick like you're a 1.
04:22:26.600
I'm not gonna just be like a dick for no reason, you know?
04:22:40.520
But first, um, before I do that, I, just a couple questions.
04:22:56.520
Like a celebrity or something, like Megan Fox, Adriana Lima.
04:23:04.620
I don't, I don't know Jessica Biel's face off the top of my head, but the other ones that you named are really pretty.
04:23:11.720
So, you, just as good as like, what was a like top tier supermodel Victoria's Secret in like the, what was it, mid to late 2000s or whatever?
04:23:42.260
You're not, you're not an ugly woman by any, you're not an ugly woman.
04:23:46.960
I think you're, why would, why would that help?
04:23:58.440
I think most of the women, I think most of the women here at the table are around average.
04:24:15.800
Have you ever gone around and rated the girls on the?
04:24:25.460
Let me, Nick, can you pull up the, on the Discord, we're gonna pull up the looks tab.
04:24:38.140
Here, why don't we do, can you scroll up to Jessica Biel?
04:24:49.180
Let me know you, and this is, we use some of these photos in a different segment that
04:24:53.300
So, Nick, show the one where she's in a white tank top with, like, a crowd in the background.
04:25:09.440
That's a wall in the background, but there's another one with a white tank top.
04:25:19.880
Okay, this is Jessica Biel when she was a bit younger.
04:25:24.040
And then show us the, the one in pink, the first one, or purple, my bad.
04:25:40.480
Yeah, what do you rate her on a scale of zero to ten?
04:25:53.680
Are you sure you want to get into this with me?
04:25:55.160
Because I'm about to just argue you until you can't argue no more.
04:26:09.940
Uh, well, obviously we can't, we can't pull up a photo of him.
04:26:18.800
Unless you're dating, like, Brad Pitt or something.
04:26:33.800
They just took it off of Netflix, but it's a really good show about anti-capitalism.
04:27:00.300
Is there anybody else you can point to who you think, a male who's a ten?
04:27:03.800
I mean, I'm not saying he's a good-looking guy or whatever.
04:27:09.400
I haven't seen the movie, but it's where the guy is disabled, and he promised his parents
04:27:59.780
Well, I love my parents, but I want them to be my parents.
04:28:11.100
So are there any guys who you would say are outside of your looks league?
04:28:25.300
If we're going to look at the beauty standard, no, I'm not everybody's perfect, ideal image
04:28:31.980
And there's a lot of men that fit the beauty standard of what men should look like within
04:28:39.360
So technically, if we're looking at it objectively like that, yes.
04:28:46.000
Yes, I'm not as objectively attractive as those men, but I might be the most beautiful
04:28:53.340
girl in the world to somebody like yourself, Brian, or the guy that I'm talking to, or somebody
04:29:00.200
And they might not have eyes for anybody else, so they're going to call me a 10.
04:29:05.840
I'm not talking about, oh, you've built a connection with somebody.
04:29:14.040
How many of these women have dated some ugly ass men and called them handsome?
04:29:23.000
Even if you're in love with a person, I think you can still be like, okay, objectively, yes,
04:29:31.920
whether you're a woman and you love a guy or you're a man and you love a woman, I think
04:29:36.720
it's not like a crazy idea for a woman who's dating me.
04:29:42.260
Maybe it wouldn't be the best thing to say it to me.
04:29:46.440
I just think that'd probably be rude or whatever.
04:29:49.240
But realistically, if she's like, yo, Brad Pitt when he was in his 30s, yeah, he fucking
04:30:04.500
To the beauty standard that we understand on a societal level.
04:30:09.220
Yeah, but that, so that, that would mean though, that in a relationship, even if you love the
04:30:13.440
person, if, even if you're really attracted to them, I think you can still be like, yeah,
04:30:24.240
But, uh, objectively, do I think that there are women who are more attractive than her?
04:30:36.160
He's, uh, he's so attractive, blah, blah, blah.
04:30:38.420
But is it the case that there are men who are more physically attractive than him?
04:31:27.240
You laughed because you actually thought it was funny.
04:31:40.700
What do you think if a hundred thousand men rated you?
04:31:46.740
See, that's a better, more logical way to frame the question.
04:31:52.180
I mean, I think they should kind of be interlinked.
04:31:56.980
Like if the world, I think your rating of yourself.
04:32:03.100
Would you rate yourself versus how do you think the world would rate you?
04:32:10.540
But if a hundred thousand men rated you, what do you think the average would be?
04:32:42.160
I've got nice little hips and little boobies, a little handful.
04:32:48.300
And men can obviously appreciate it if it's my sole income.
04:32:51.800
If my objective appearance is, I believe, yeah, my sole income.
04:33:01.020
It's got to be halfway decent and above halfway decent.
04:33:11.580
I want to apologize, but I have to go because I'm hurt, right?
04:33:16.820
Well, why doesn't she just come back so she doesn't cause an interruption to our production?
04:33:25.380
Do you want to scoot into the table a little bit for us?
04:33:36.860
She can always sit over there, too, so you don't have to leave.
04:33:48.240
Oh, I apologize, but my friend's mental health is important to me.
04:33:53.680
Yeah, I mean, this is kind of why, you know, when it comes to leadership positions,
04:33:57.460
when it comes to the wage gap, I mean, you're basically essentially just reinforcing that
04:34:02.360
women are these fragile creatures that need to be pampered and you need to be placated
04:34:46.100
I mean, I want to stay, but I have to put her over this and I apologize and thank you
04:34:51.180
So you're leaving the podcast because your friend, she's having a...
04:35:00.960
Can't she just take like an Uber back home or whatever?
04:35:04.160
No, we came from pretty far and she doesn't have the money for that.
04:35:16.460
Was she wanting to just sit in the back of the studio or what was the deal?
04:35:27.440
She has autism and I think this was overstimulating for her.
04:35:36.760
Why don't we just have her sit in the back or something?
04:35:51.020
I don't think she is up for that at the moment.
04:36:16.060
I mean, I'm fine with her if she wants to just hang out back there and wait for you,
04:36:24.980
Do you want to just text her and then come back and report...
04:36:42.700
I think it was a pretty tame show, to be honest.
04:36:58.980
If you brought her on with him, like, that's just not right.
04:37:05.680
The point I was making is Andrew Wilson isn't here.
04:37:17.500
I can't appreciate that you'll speak out against racism.
04:37:23.000
Well, I'm sure his favorite women are black, so...
04:37:35.160
We'll just give you a water bottle under the table.
04:37:43.580
Let me talk to the other guys for a little moment here.
04:38:08.600
I need to get this side of the table a little bit.
04:38:18.500
So, you're technically with someone, but it's open concept.
04:38:28.840
So, like, give us three insane stories, 30 seconds each.
04:38:34.800
Well, now that everyone thinks that I sleep with 30 guys at a time, I think that might justify
04:39:35.800
If you are able to convince her to come back, I will give each of you a $2 bill.
04:39:54.200
You and your friend, well, I guess first, thank you for coming.
04:40:19.080
I am ruffled that you are both leaving because there was much more to discuss, but...
04:40:29.960
You care about her mental health, but she doesn't care about, like, what you want?
04:40:32.900
I mean, she does, but I'm going to put her mental health above me doing a podcast because
04:40:40.320
But anyways, I would just say this as a parting goodbye.
04:40:45.440
The lack of willingness to contend with views or thoughts that you disagree with that you
04:40:55.480
might be, I guess, for her, were at least triggering.
04:40:58.760
And look, maybe there were, I don't know, the lights, she said she had autism, whatever.
04:41:04.900
It's, you know, in front of the cameras and all this stuff, people who disagree with you.
04:41:08.840
I get it, it can be a lot, but I think what you would espouse is what you're so against.
04:41:19.240
We will continue uncontested to make ground socially, legally, culturally, politically,
04:41:27.440
because of the weak constitution of, no offense to you, I guess it's mostly your friend.
04:41:38.000
The strong thing to do would be like, eh, it's a bit of an uncomfortable conversation.
04:41:43.600
I don't like hearing these things, but I'm going to sit here, I'm going to defend my worldview.
04:41:49.080
I do think if you really do believe in the things you believe in, you ought to stay steadfast
04:41:57.300
and even in the face of, you know, hearing things you disagree with, even acknowledging
04:42:05.080
that that might be uncomfortable for you, being like, if we're going to, you know, see
04:42:10.940
our worldview manifest itself, leaving a podcast, walking off a podcast, quitting a podcast
04:42:28.980
Yeah, but it has nothing to do with your opinions.
04:42:31.040
I perfectly fine having conversations with people with other opinions.
04:42:36.120
Well, are you saying you want to do a round two without her?
04:42:42.440
I mean, look, that would be a redeeming, you want to do a redemption arc, we can have you
04:42:46.220
back, but I do have to continue on with the production of the show.
04:43:14.340
I want, I almost wonder if I want to adjust the seating arrangement.
04:43:19.420
We'll, um, here, I'm going to do some readjustment here.
04:43:31.220
So take that center chair and then you take that center chair over there.
04:43:47.080
I apologize for the, the, the little pause in the show here.
04:43:58.680
And now we've got a little more breathing room.
04:44:27.140
I expect a weekly tribute by the way, every single week.
04:44:43.740
I'll be trying to be fair and nice or whatever.
04:44:56.100
Uh, so I'll start with, I'll say some negatives and positives.
04:44:59.860
Uh, decent eye eyes, blue eyes, good, tall, six foot one, good, somewhat decent symmetry
04:45:11.660
So overall good eyes, but, uh, poor under eye area fat need to lose weight.
04:45:17.260
So that's going to be fat in the face, fat in the body.
04:45:25.140
There's more, there's more, but that's my ego can only take so much.
04:45:40.980
You guys would have to like stand up and do a fit check.
04:45:46.680
I feel like that'd be a little too much, a little much, a little much, a little much.
04:45:54.000
Um, before I give you the rating, I'll give you some positives and some, some negatives.
04:46:09.240
Uh, so your, your lips are definitely above average.
04:46:39.640
Uh, you do have blue eyes, but you're wearing the fucking, the, the fucking strumpet lashes.
04:46:54.080
Although I do think your eyes have like your, uh, your eyes are slightly, uh, what's the
04:47:06.400
Uh, no, there's a term for the tilt of the eyes.
04:47:10.340
You have negative, you have negative, you have, I think you have a slight negative candle
04:47:26.380
Like, no, there's some, like, I'm going to cry out hormonal issues that I'm still discovering.
04:47:32.540
So like my chin, can you fit turn that way this way or all the way or how much he's like
04:48:14.260
So you have a slight negative cancel tilt in your eyes.
04:48:29.040
It's artificial, but so aesthetically, I wait, can you turn face that way?
04:48:37.640
I do see the, the lip filler bump there in the lip.
04:48:41.620
Uh, but lip filler typically is, looks better from the front than it does from the side.
04:48:46.880
Uh, so with, I personally, I don't like the aesthetic of the lip filler, but do you
04:49:07.600
You have, you have nice, uh, are they natural or do you kind of, I'd say they're natural.
04:49:44.140
The, the, your lower third is, is, uh, I think decent though.
04:49:52.460
Like the, there, there is decent, like decent ramus.
04:50:22.060
Should you want, you want the, just the honest truth?
04:50:25.900
Can I have you scoot your mic to the edge of the table in a little bit?
04:50:39.900
So your eyes are, instead of being like downturned,
04:50:42.700
they're, yeah, you have, I think somewhat, you have hunter feline eyes.
04:50:48.480
Uh, you have, uh, slightly, I want to say slightly, the forehead slightly unequal,
04:50:58.980
like in terms of your facial thirds, you have a good mid face ratio.
04:51:12.640
That's actually my least favorite part about myself.
04:51:15.960
You're perhaps slightly bulbous, but your side profile is strong.
04:51:31.660
Do you have the dim, uh, the, the freckle tattoos?
04:51:46.740
No, I get like laser on my face for my acne, but that's it.
04:51:49.920
Um, I think, uh, I mean, I think we got to give you at least an eight or nine, like
04:52:34.340
Like if you're wearing a lot of makeup, it makes it a little bit hard to.
04:52:51.880
Some people, just really quick going back to you.
04:53:10.420
Uh, makeup kind of, you know, I think 6.5, sir.
04:53:23.720
Well, maybe not single-handedly causing the male loneliness epidemic.
04:53:29.420
Like, it is, we are all so, all of us, every single one of us is so much more attractive
04:53:41.360
I know, but like, what the hell are you talking about?
04:53:49.700
No, you, he wanted to give us one and he had to ask us for permission.
04:53:53.960
But, but so far, so far, I've, of the people I've rated, I've rated them more attractive
04:54:00.460
Yeah, but we're significantly, not by half a point.
04:54:10.860
I like your nose, especially, like, especially from the side.
04:54:14.240
I'm so, like, insecure about my front nose because it's, like, more like, like, in Mexico,
04:54:20.580
there's, like, the, you know, Aztecs and all, I have that type of nose, but my mom, I believe
04:54:26.840
I have the tall niche, like, the, the tall, like, nose bridge.
04:54:31.400
But if I look straight, you just, that's why I love contouring my nose.
04:54:35.880
But, like, even if, let's say I was a one and maybe you're, like, just out of vindictiveness,
04:54:42.920
Even if I was a one, you don't need to be a weatherman to know it's raining.
04:54:46.960
So, in this case, regardless of my own standing in terms of my own attractiveness, that really
04:54:53.420
wouldn't have, I know it's hard, like, you want to do this thing, like, who are you to
04:54:58.400
So, that would basically set this thing up where, well, okay, only, like, a male model
04:55:03.020
can give somebody looks ratings, which logically doesn't make sense.
04:55:06.760
Regardless of my own attractiveness or lack thereof, I can still, because I have eyes and
04:55:18.520
If you're a model scout, I would let you rape me and I would be insulted.
04:55:22.120
Because they are truly the analysts of what is attractive, what fits the picture.
04:55:41.720
I don't, I'm not, by the way, I'm not like some, like, there's people who break it down
04:55:45.580
even, like, way crazier, like, I'm trying to think of some examples.
04:55:52.020
Like, I have a very elementary level of, like, face analysis.
04:56:07.000
And there's certain things I'm, like, not totally looking for.
04:56:12.360
I mean, if you just, like, quickly, like, boom, what would it be?
04:56:15.980
Like, without the hyper analysis, is the hyper analysis just for justification or?
04:56:21.720
Well, I could just look and just give you a number.
04:56:30.960
But all those, like, things are factors that are, you almost kind of instantly, you see
04:56:44.020
But, yeah, look, I don't think I'm, bro, I'm overweight.
04:57:00.440
But that wouldn't stop me from being able to be like, okay, well, she's this or she's
04:57:24.020
A little bit, because you don't think you can be racist towards white people, which is
04:57:29.580
You want to circle back to the actual stuff that matters instead of numbers that are subjective?
04:58:14.780
You guys get something when you come on the show.
04:58:53.360
Yeah, now this is reparations for you saying that.
04:58:58.500
Actually, that's like karma for your white ancestors.
05:00:00.760
Do you want to take it off at the end of the show this time?
05:00:08.280
I'll just give you a 5 because I don't know what the fuck is under there.
05:00:44.760
It looks like you're wearing a little bit of...
05:01:05.860
Like, we both could stand to lose a bit of weight.
05:04:07.820
And muscle growth is more ideal for your health.
05:04:14.480
Miss, do you think women are stronger than men?
05:04:25.840
And then I'll finish up the looks rating thing.
05:04:34.560
So, do you think women are physically stronger than men?
05:04:39.140
I think women are capable of being stronger than some men.
05:04:45.720
apparently there's a meta-analysis that controls for levels of adrenaline,
05:04:51.440
grip strength, and various other aspects of strength
05:04:54.240
that still end up proving that men are stronger than women.
05:04:58.760
then I will concede that men are more genetically predisposed
05:05:15.900
Well, I mean, you basically, I think, conceded it.
05:05:19.980
But you did say that you think your mom could beat up Brock Lesnar.
05:05:28.040
So, is that still your, do you think, okay, how about this?
05:05:31.460
Do you think your mom could beat up Brock Lesnar?
05:05:34.060
Not right now, because unfortunately my mommy just got done finishing chemo treatments.
05:05:39.100
Prior, it's the chemo that's, if it wasn't for the chemo,
05:05:51.920
Well, you need muscle mass to get through cancer, so.
05:05:59.960
Hypothetically, once she's fully recovered, would she fuck up Brock Lesnar?
05:06:10.440
Wait, what do you mean statistically with your facts?
05:06:21.580
Maybe she wouldn't be able to, because he was like the bodybuilder, right?
05:06:26.720
Brock Lesnar was a, he was the heavyweight championship, champion of the UFC.
05:06:42.540
I don't think any woman in the world could beat up Brock Lesnar if he had the flu.
05:06:58.340
I think Brock Lesnar could be on a hospital bed, getting appendicitis, like getting his appendix removed, and still smirk every single woman.
05:07:18.360
Brock Lesnar could be, Brock Lesnar could be, wait, okay, so do you think he's the strongest man?
05:07:28.720
No, I don't think he's the strongest man in the world.
05:07:31.820
But he's stronger than every single woman in the world.
05:07:41.340
Let's do some averages, run some means and medians, man.
05:08:40.120
So, this man, uh, is, I, I'm willing to wager stronger than, uh, every single woman, uh,
05:08:49.400
Well, not, not combined, but, uh, stronger than every single woman, uh, who lives and who
05:08:55.860
has lived, and, uh, he could, if, I mean, not that we would want that, but in a fight,
05:09:03.460
he would be able to beat every single, well, not just beat, but be able to kill every single
05:09:11.560
I, I think that your belief is supported by faith, and I support you in your faith.
05:09:29.980
Um, did anybody else, anybody else think women are just as physically strong as men?
05:09:38.300
We have one, two, wait, how many, we got seven people.
05:09:49.300
Oh, uh, I guess going around the table, do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years
05:10:12.080
I done did just make fun of your Southern accent.
05:10:20.000
You don't know nothing about the South, you damn California avocado toast boy.
05:10:28.680
You, you, you think you're from the South, but I'm from the South.
05:11:25.020
Wait, I'm going to re, I'm going to redo all these.
05:11:46.740
I don't know, depending on how much surgery I have, but maybe not.
05:12:02.400
We should have disclosed this information soon.
05:12:13.240
Uh, what about, so no plastic surgery, better looking at 37?
05:12:17.260
No, I think I probably won't be, but I hope so.
05:12:30.420
Was the booty there at 18 or it developed over time?
05:12:49.680
No, I just don't have a dog in the fight, you know?
05:13:22.860
Like, in jeans, leggings, shorts, you can tell if somebody has an in-ear.
05:13:37.980
I don't think there's any labia big enough for you to be able to tell in jeans.
05:14:33.060
Yes, the regular skin, I guess you could say, but there's the lips.
05:14:36.960
When I'm talking about outies, I'm talking about lips.
05:14:47.100
I mean, B, that's kind of like, they're memeing at that point, but they're both solid.
05:14:59.120
No, no, no, because we were talking about two separate things.
05:15:01.320
You were talking about just, I think you're talking about outer labia.
05:15:11.100
If it's plump, it's still kind of nice, but inner labia, when we're talking about innies
05:15:28.760
How do you like a sandwich, but don't want to eat it?
05:15:31.920
I will engage with you guys on that, but first, I'll finish this segment, so I'll just say
05:15:36.000
the, the, I'll just write oral, I guess, and we'll talk about that.
05:15:43.340
Like, oh, who was that guy who had beef with Eminem?
05:15:55.060
Machine Gun Kelly's, I mean, Eminem, no, listen, Eminem smoked MGK, but I kind of liked
05:16:26.980
Well, you guys were like, oh, my God, your boobs.
05:16:36.120
I'm actually going to change my answer from what I said last time.
05:16:39.600
I think I'm hoping to God that my skin clears up in 10 years, and then, yes, I think I will
05:16:46.800
Have you done any, like, Accutane or anything like that?
05:16:50.480
Like, I'm a crazy Tretinoin person, and I also do, like, laser treatments on my face,
05:17:04.280
What sucks now is that I used to get them more before I started doing content, but I work
05:17:10.080
literally every single day for, like, I film every single day, so I have to block out,
05:17:15.180
like, a week that I know I'm not going to have to film because my face gets so, like, red.
05:17:25.640
But just on OF, not, like, for, I don't know, bang bros or some shit like that.
05:17:39.320
Like, for traditional porn producers, like, bang bros, bang bus, or whatever the fuck.
05:17:50.320
He's, like, trying to act like he doesn't know the sites.
05:18:00.380
Do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time?
05:18:03.820
I don't think so, but I hope so, because I'm for sure going to get surgeries done.
05:18:22.940
Because, like, the skin is just going to, like, you're going to be agey and all of that.
05:18:26.500
And do you think you're better looking now at 26, or are you better looking at 18?
05:18:50.180
I, I, I'm going to say it's a hard, like, 50-50, honestly.
05:19:00.160
Realistically, though, like, everybody's going to get older, though.
05:19:03.600
Uh, okay, do you think you'll be better looking?
05:19:24.820
I hope I age well, but I don't think I'll be better looking.
05:19:27.320
And then better looking now, or better looking at 18?
05:19:32.320
We have a fun little segment where we've AI advanced all of you.
05:19:49.920
That's much better than the one you used last time.
05:19:55.320
Honestly, though, they did you some favors in the OG one, in the original one.
05:20:00.500
They kind of, could I have you just take that thing off the table, the lipstick thing
05:20:12.000
It'll bring, actually, you would need AI for your communist utopia.
05:20:16.660
Yeah, you would need artificial intelligence, I think.
05:20:22.940
There's going to be at least one job somebody doesn't want to do.
05:20:45.860
Like, they've leveled everybody up in the first photo.
05:20:50.540
The second photo, the second photo, still good.
05:21:02.960
That's not, you're not going to hit that until you're 90.
05:21:53.800
And then I turned into a different person at the end.
05:22:47.060
Also, the skin tone was warped for a lot of people.
05:22:57.920
Wait, look at the end of the microphone in the first picture.
05:23:37.020
Bro, who the fuck took all the black out of the Asian?
05:24:08.500
They just kind of like smoothed my face out a little bit.
05:24:12.720
I don't know more than that, but you know, hey.
05:26:26.260
Well, that's not going to worry about between me and you and me.
05:26:32.680
This would be a match made in heaven right here.
05:26:35.520
I was thinking about it when I was sitting here.
05:26:44.920
Well, I feel like she would run you like a dog at some point.
05:27:42.740
You know, like, have you ever had a guy, like, oh, I got a big dick, and you're like, what the fuck?
05:28:00.460
Or not rug burn, but, like, does your labia feel like a rug?
05:28:03.760
No, but I'm saying if it's going like that against your dick.
05:28:09.780
There's supposed to be something, like, liquid down there.
05:28:13.840
What does it feel like, Brian, to be in a big labia?
05:30:22.000
That's exactly, like, yeah, that's perfectly accurate.
05:30:43.340
He's got a little bit of lipstick on his mouth.
05:30:44.980
I think the AI needs to be masculinized a bit, but this, yeah, okay.
05:31:10.060
I'm going to get up for, like, I'm just going to run to the bathroom, but you want to run
05:31:49.680
I'm going to have to go with a solid no on that one.
05:32:15.100
Arab guys are low-key toxic, and I'm eight guys.
05:33:13.780
What's the person that used to be on, like, Mr. Beast?
05:33:25.080
You guys, I don't know, but his name used to be Chris.
05:33:35.160
It's the one that used to be, like, Mr. Beast's husband.
05:33:37.000
He had a wife and a kid, and then he immediately, like, left her in transition.
05:34:47.040
Do you think she's below average, or what do you think?
05:34:49.400
I think just knock it down, like, a quarter of a point.
05:35:05.940
She does look annoying, though, somebody in the chat said.
05:35:16.180
So, that's everything for the look segment, I think?
05:35:19.420
We're going to come back to the oral sex thing.
05:35:22.880
Because you guys, so, okay, apparently you guys wanted to talk about this.
05:35:29.840
Are we all going to shame him for this, please?
05:35:31.400
I was like, wait, why do you care about the size of the labia if you're not even, like,
05:35:36.660
Just this, your own sensory pleasure, your own pleasure, that's all that matters to you?
05:35:52.100
Well, I mean, it just probably feels like your finger and...
05:35:54.440
I mean, I like the way it feels with fingers in the sense that...
05:36:04.140
I mean, I thought it was pretty straightforward, but I just don't want to be like...
05:36:08.200
But, like, my fingers aren't, like, experiencing pleasure, but...
05:36:16.720
It's like the heart, what the heart is feeling, you know?
05:36:34.680
All right, we're going to get demonetized again.
05:36:37.960
Does anybody else want to weigh on this oral sex thing?
05:36:49.660
But there's some guys that find it, like, ew, like, against it.
05:36:59.880
I'll get to that in a moment, but I want to hear from the rest of the...
05:37:02.260
Before I get into my piece, I want to give you guys a chance to talk.
05:37:05.260
I'll be honest, though, it feels like a waste of time.
05:37:24.440
That, like, it really matters in a relationship?
05:37:27.460
Sex and intimacy in general is always going to be, like...
05:37:38.340
Yeah, if a guy won't go down, is that a deal-breaker?
05:37:56.120
Okay, like, I've never asked my partner to do that, but I feel like if a guy is adamant
05:38:01.240
about, like, I'm never gonna do it, and we're together, and, like, you've seen my body...
05:38:06.080
Can I have you scoot your mic that way a little bit?
05:38:11.040
I just think that that, like, the need to express, like, how against you are, like, doing it
05:38:22.500
Like, no, no, like, if my partner specifically, like, I've never asked them to do it, but
05:38:26.940
if they're, like, adamant about not wanting to do it, I think that that's a little odd.
05:38:32.620
I mean, I wouldn't say I'm adamant about not doing it, but when asked on a podcast where
05:38:39.820
you discuss topics, I'll explain myself, of course.
05:38:47.860
It's not something I want to do, but I wouldn't say I'm, like, adamant about it.
05:39:01.740
I think that men that want to have sex with women should be eaten in.
05:39:15.920
They think it's kind of gay to not go down on a woman.
05:39:21.840
But do you think it's gay for a guy who doesn't want to go down on a girl?
05:39:37.740
I feel like you should want to be attracted to that.
05:39:44.440
I feel like it's a turn off if you don't want to.
05:39:57.420
So, like, it's not a huge deal to me, but it is a turn off if you don't want to do it.
05:40:22.560
But, like, would it be gay for a man to not want to toss your salad?
05:40:39.500
I feel like that's entering a different realm, though.
05:41:02.300
It feels weird because I'm looking down at him.
05:41:07.500
I think that's, like, more of a psychological issue.
05:41:17.060
That's definitely more of a psychological issue.
05:41:21.280
What do you, I mean, aside from that, do you not find it enjoyable?
05:41:38.420
That's fine, but I've come from sex once in my entire life.
05:41:44.680
I could get married to somebody and never have sex again, and I'd be happy.
05:41:53.800
I mean, I've learned how to make myself somewhat enjoy it, yeah.
05:41:58.340
There are definitely parts about it that I can enjoy.
05:42:00.740
Well, I think you can enjoy sex even if you don't climax.
05:42:09.060
Nothing about, like, hookup culture would ever entice me because the idea of, like, hooking up...
05:42:15.060
Like, there's nothing attractive to me about having sex with somebody, but, like, the one
05:42:20.720
person that I shoot BG content with, like, we've learned very small things that help
05:42:26.040
out in it that make it enjoyable, other than that.
05:42:28.280
How long have you been doing the boy-girl content?
05:42:44.020
But do you guys, I don't know, kick it after and, like, watch...
05:42:49.040
Um, I mean, we hang out, but, like, he's not my boyfriend.
05:42:53.780
Y'all fuck, and he's the only guy you're fucking, right?
05:43:12.820
Since my last boyfriend, probably, like, two, three years.
05:43:16.300
Okay, so in the past three years, you've only fucked the guy...
05:43:27.040
If sex actually mattered to me, then actually, that might be a good point.
05:43:57.360
I think that was one of the things that they told us not to say.
05:44:25.740
In the past three years, you've only had sex with one guy.
05:44:30.860
For one year, for content, even though sex means, like, nothing to me.
05:44:59.600
This is why you were confused why I said 30 guys.
05:45:07.220
Like, it's more fun for me to talk to somebody and, like, intellectually, like, do this.
05:45:13.240
This is so much more riveting and feels better in my mind than sex ever has.
05:45:32.340
So, you're saying that being on the Whatever Podcast is better than sex is what you're
05:45:41.500
Debating stuff like this with just the two people walking.
05:45:51.940
If I got married to somebody and they were like, we're doing that every night, let's do
05:45:59.980
Either the strongest marriage ever, or you guys are literally going to kill each other.
05:46:05.160
I mean, I'll debate with him a little bit, but, like, let's say in a hypothetical world,
05:46:09.040
you and I were, like, married, and you and I...
05:46:13.480
We wouldn't have a dead bedroom, but we'd be having debates.
05:46:17.780
So, you and I would be sitting right there, and we'd have a bunch of, like, people that we'd
05:46:20.980
just be debating with all day, and this would be, like, my dream marriage.
05:46:33.700
But actually, I think the audience was liking you, but a condition of working for the whatever
05:46:42.320
So, when you're ready to stop OnlyFans, and you want to start your streaming career, which,
05:46:47.560
by the way, I think will be, could, has the potential to be more lucrative than being
05:47:09.380
We parted ways with her because she started one.
05:47:20.240
Like, you and I, we're, like, going at it together.
05:47:22.700
I'm talking about you just being, like, a team member.
05:47:30.160
Also, the whole asexual thing is probably going to be an issue.
05:47:44.120
Oh, like, maybe you just haven't met a man in love.
05:47:50.640
Like, I understand that you would, like, go through the...
05:47:53.180
It's possible that I just haven't met the right person.
05:47:59.120
Like, for example, if you put Morgan Wallen in front of me, I am on that, like, right now.
05:48:08.340
I don't think I can date a girl who's, like, she's just...
05:48:18.420
But, anyways, we're going around the table on something.
05:48:39.040
Girls have told me, because I don't do that, that it's kind of gay.
05:48:45.640
I mean, some people, some guys don't prefer doing it.
05:48:59.840
And sometimes it can be inherently, like, misogynistic if the reasoning behind it is, like, oh, I hate vaginas.
05:49:10.500
In that specific scenario, in that, like, mind frame, I...
05:49:17.160
I want to say it's just kind of selfish, that's all.
05:49:26.580
And then, really quick, and then I'll get into my rebuttal.
05:49:50.240
You don't have to wait for her to adjust her mic.
05:50:04.460
Is it a deal breaker if a guy won't go down on you?
05:50:17.500
I actually wrote it down because I got flack on the internet a couple days ago.
05:50:21.000
So maybe on Valentine's, if she gets me some flowers and chocolate.
05:50:48.180
So that was the Bush, Bush, President Bush, George Bush was still president.
05:50:53.200
That, that's the last time I went down on a woman, um, to my recollection.
05:51:05.160
Uh, I mean a little landing strip or whatever's fine, but to bear, bear is good.
05:51:15.380
I'm actually legally not allowed to have a jungle whenever I work.
05:51:24.020
In North Carolina, it's real strict over there.
05:51:26.260
North Carolina has laws that strippers, they have to shave their bush.
05:51:41.780
Like you're considered more nude if you have your pubic hair exposed.
05:52:20.780
Wait, so why would anyone even go if you can't get alcohol?
05:52:53.300
And I, the bigger, the labia, the pussy, well, big pussy, big labia, kind of different.
05:53:06.080
So nobody can tell me, look me straight in the eyes and say that I, Brian, am scared of pussy.
05:53:21.500
But I'll tell you why, and there's a few reasons.
05:53:31.380
I'll do anything for love, but I won't do that.
05:53:44.300
Number one, oral sex is the leading risk for throat cancer.
05:53:52.280
In men, leading risk factor for throat cancer in men, oral sex.
05:53:58.840
By the way, the studies show that men are four times.
05:54:05.320
Four times as likely to get throat cancer as women are.
05:54:14.940
And by the way, the risk of transmission is higher from women to men.
05:54:21.700
And without being graphic, this is somewhat due to women's physiology.
05:54:27.280
Women shed more virus and they transmit higher viral loads.
05:54:38.580
Boundaries, I believe, are my strongest argument.
05:54:42.520
Now, boundaries, men are allowed to have sexual boundaries.
05:55:00.020
No, I don't think men or women should be shamed or pressured into this fucking you.
05:55:08.940
Pressured into doing things sexually they don't want to do.
05:55:17.600
If you don't want to lick a woman where she pee.
05:55:27.960
That's a perfectly reasonable boundary to have.
05:55:32.540
Wait, but that's the reason before having sexual sex.
05:55:43.540
So if I shower, if I go in the shower and I soap down or whatever, by the way, you women
05:56:04.380
So you got to resort to, at least for the internal parts, it's going to just self-cleaning,
05:56:38.700
Well, how do you think girls like put shaving cream and shave there?
05:56:41.320
Do you think you could just instantly get an infection because it's there?
05:56:52.760
Oh, you want to get technical with the hair growth?
05:56:55.940
You want to get technical with the hair growth.
05:57:05.540
I mean, I guess it's possible fucking hair could grow on the.
05:57:11.200
If these are the labias, you have the two right here growing.
05:57:19.540
Hair does not grow on the internal inner labia.
05:57:21.920
There's a bunch of women right here that all shave white.
05:57:32.080
Look, I don't know what's going on with you and your girlfriend.
05:57:38.620
Look, I'm not a fucking gooner, but I've seen in real life and I've watched a bit of
05:57:46.100
porn, I will admit, although I don't really watch porn much anymore.
05:57:59.420
Okay, you know how there's inner labia and outer labia?
05:58:12.280
God, it'll grow a little bit on the inner labia, like a tiny bit.
05:58:16.180
You're telling me the pink part, it grows on the pink part.
05:58:20.220
Okay, so perhaps on the boundary, boundary, boundary of the outer labia and the inner labia.
05:58:31.620
No way you're arguing about something you don't even have.
05:58:41.920
That's the part that hurts the most when you're waxing or anything.
05:58:59.820
I think I was responding to something you were saying.
05:59:18.300
As a woman, if you shower, there's only so much you can do.
05:59:30.900
If a guy comes inside of you, shower ain't going to fix that.
05:59:48.680
My original point is you don't want to go down because it's dirty.
05:59:52.280
Or like, you know, it's they have periods and you're like urine comes from there.
05:59:57.540
But I believe that both partners should shower before having like sex.
06:00:10.500
No, but now the other thing, where's, hey, North Carolina, you fucking rebel.
06:00:18.420
You're talking, you're talking about the stuff that can't be fixed with the shower.
06:00:22.000
You're talking about stuff that should be taken to a gynecologist.
06:00:31.160
Men actually, a lot of the time, if a woman has chronic yeast infections and she's been
06:00:38.340
with one guy, a lot of time it's because of the guy.
06:00:41.000
But I'm not even talking about yeast infections at this point.
06:00:44.700
My third point, y'all want to say there's, I see a hypocrisy.
06:00:49.340
I think there's a double standard in how sexual boundaries are respected depending on the gender.
06:00:56.320
If y'all were just sitting here and I know I'm the home girl, right?
06:01:02.420
But if it was just, if it was girl talk and one of you guys were like, you know, I don't
06:01:11.540
I don't think y'all would have an issue with it.
06:01:18.680
Look, there's some women, they gotta suck the dick.
06:01:24.420
But I think a lot of women are kind of like, eh, it's not their favorite thing, right?
06:01:32.060
I don't think you guys would be all tripping out about that.
06:01:38.440
Like, would you shame your girlfriend if your girlfriend's like, hey, you know, I just don't
06:01:46.160
Um, I would ask her if, like, we're real close.
06:01:51.600
We're already talking about this intimate stuff.
06:01:53.960
Ask her if she's had, like, previous issues with it.
06:02:01.440
You know, you can enjoy sex and be, you know, being with somebody and still, like, wanting
06:02:12.560
But, like, I feel like in liking a man and enjoying a man, you're gonna wanna like, ugh,
06:02:21.140
I mean, I think a, okay, I think a woman cannot enjoy giving oral sex.
06:02:28.540
And it has, it can, it could, but it can also not have anything to do with trauma.
06:02:39.860
I think she might be, like, a little bit less attracted to men, though.
06:02:43.740
I don't know how you'd come to that conclusion.
06:02:45.840
But, I do think, no, but, but, look, you guys weren't too harsh on me.
06:02:51.180
But, I, I think that if y'all overheard, like, some frat guys, if she doesn't suck dick, she's
06:03:04.380
I feel like y'all women would have an issue with that.
06:03:18.540
Well, frat guys are kind of known for the whole, like, non-consensual thing.
06:03:29.880
Bro, nothing in that example had anything to do with forcing women to do it.
06:03:34.800
It was, if she doesn't suck dick, she's not worth dating.
06:03:37.120
If you overheard men having that conversation, y'all women would be up in arms.
06:03:43.940
Bent out of shape if you overheard guys saying that shit.
06:03:46.200
So, I think there's a bit of hypocrisy, a bit of a double standard here.
06:03:54.540
If someone told you that you had to blow your boyfriend or you were a shitty girlfriend and he should dump you, what would you think?
06:04:06.360
Well, not had to in the sense that if you don't do it, you're a shitty girlfriend.
06:04:27.280
If they can't get it at their girlfriend, they're going to look somewhere else.
06:04:31.840
So, that would be rightful for you to think that.
06:04:47.060
But you wouldn't discredit somebody for not wanting to.
06:04:52.400
And for me, it wouldn't be a deal breaker if she didn't.
06:04:55.060
But honestly, the majority of the girls I've dated, even though I don't, they still do
06:05:01.720
It's like a natural part of the process, I feel like.
06:05:04.140
We are, I don't know, we just want to show some affection.
06:05:08.800
Women are cultivated in a way to show affection towards their romantic partners.
06:05:21.020
I want to go back quickly to the gay thing, and then I have three more points.
06:05:34.140
If a guy was perfect, but he didn't do oral sex, is that a deal breaker?
06:05:43.620
The magic genie, you can have the perfect, it's not even his motivation.
06:05:47.820
It's just, you have a wish from the magic genie, and he's like, I'll give you the perfect
06:05:54.380
Perfect in like treatment, and good size penis.
06:05:57.240
Okay, perfect looks, perfect personality, perfect treatment, perfect loyalty, perfect money,
06:06:06.220
Okay, who else said like deal breaker if he won't go down on you?
06:06:23.940
If the genie had to say, if it was a real person, I would have to be like, what?
06:06:29.760
First time hooking up, or maybe a one-eyed stand, should a guy be willing to give oral sex
06:06:38.720
I mean, you still want that shit, I'm imagining, but.
06:06:41.680
I mean, it's, but if it's just a casual hookup, honestly, no, I don't expect it.
06:06:47.760
And like, if we haven't had any tests done, and if like, we're both like a little tipsy,
06:06:51.360
or like, we just met at the bar, honestly, no, I expect it a little bit less.
06:06:54.660
Although, the last hookup I had, he was down there.
06:07:04.780
I mean, I think it's really ill-advised, especially if you don't know what her deal is.
06:07:14.100
If that's your girl, you got to feed her better.
06:07:16.740
No, I'm just saying it could be like, like, she could have fucked a guy the night before
06:07:25.200
Miss, it's complicated over here, and she's got a roster, whatever.
06:07:31.880
Should a guy be willing to give oral sex, like, on a first night, one night stand?
06:07:43.080
Really quick, I meant to go back to the gay thing.
06:07:46.340
If a bisexual man, bisexual man, doesn't enjoy performing oral sex on men, but he does on
06:07:57.560
women, but he prefers receiving and giving anal sex with men, does that make him straight?
06:08:10.440
But a bisexual man, because I'm just trying to follow the logic here.
06:08:13.660
A bisexual man, he doesn't enjoy performing oral sex on men, but he prefers getting pounded
06:09:03.860
Does a bisexual man who doesn't enjoy performing oral sex at all, what does that make him?
06:09:17.200
Yeah, but he doesn't enjoy giving oral sex to men or women.
06:10:05.180
Actually, you know, I see what he's trying to do, guys.
06:10:10.560
Like, he takes it in the ass, but he's kind of straight.
06:10:20.400
I'm going to finish my arguments really quick, then I need to step away for, like, five minutes.
06:11:15.100
Which I don't usually go past, like, 25 or 26 because I'm 21.
06:11:22.780
And just able to pay for, like, dates when we go out most of the time.
06:11:30.600
How much do you want a guy to make, ideally, in your relationship?
06:11:34.440
Just something that could be substantial, like 80K.
06:11:47.580
Um, since I'm going to become a nurse, which is, like, 100K plus per year, I would want
06:16:19.840
no no no no no anyone no no no no no no no no no
06:17:10.480
no not looking good no no no no no no no no no no no no no no
06:17:37.480
no no no no no no no no no no no no no how many is this no no no no
06:18:06.480
no no no no no no no no no no I'm getting tired no no no no no he thinks the dog's gonna get you no
06:20:27.360
I would have picked the yes on all of your guys.
06:23:48.300
But even, it's more about like the composition of their photos.
06:24:33.040
I don't usually use the term high value, but is it, were there not enough black guys?
06:24:54.140
Paisas are like, you know the photo you saw with the horse?
06:27:28.500
As long as they don't act like they're from Jersey.
06:27:41.540
You got to root out the guys that aren't showing their faces at all.
06:27:52.060
I think the people that are not showing their face, they're cheating.
06:27:59.700
Most of them don't show a face because they're actually cheating.
06:28:33.420
I feel like we're more picky on dating apps than actually like when we meet somebody and
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But I feel like, look, you see a picture of a guy.
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A lot of these, some of these guys are decent looking.
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Well, I get you're kind of a freak or whatever, but I don't know.
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You're normal-ish in a court in your own quirky kind of way.
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Your, your assistant, by the way, is cracking up.
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Well, the tattoo, the wrist tattoo, I meant some.
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Okay, really quick, I'll finish off on the oral sex thing because I didn't finish my list.
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So, look, the first one that was only related to HPV, the cancer risk for the throat, that's
06:30:16.920
HPV related, but related to other STDs, I think not all women, I want to make this clear.
06:30:24.300
What I'm about to say does not apply to all women.
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You either got high body count or you got multiple sexual partners.
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The big one is multiple sexual partners at the same time.
06:30:47.300
She was talking about Jersey, so it kind of came out.
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See, the thing is, the Jersey Shore, they're actually from New York.
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Well, there's some, oh, there's something else.
06:31:35.800
Like, I kind of like see it from her perspective.
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Don't fucking talk shit about the fucking Italian.
06:32:18.420
A lot of women, not all women, a lot of women be moving shady as fuck.
06:32:27.020
I'm just saying, like, y'all be sleeping with multiple guys.
06:32:39.160
But I think, like, also, even if you ask the girl, you could be like, hey, so how long
06:33:00.160
Let's say you're on a date with a guy you really like.
06:33:38.800
They don't tell girls that I effed, like, 10 chicks last night or this week.
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I just, look, it's not a race thing, but I do get the impression, like,
06:34:30.800
you seem like you'd be the type of girl to kind of talk during a movie.
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This one time I was with this, I was, I was, I don't think I've told this story on
06:34:43.900
I was dating, uh, this is a girl I was dating for a while, actually.
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And, uh, we were watching, what was that movie?
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The war movie where, it's the name of the, of the city, it was World War, what was it?
06:35:08.220
What's the, the, where the, the, the Germans encircled the British and they were evacuating.
06:35:15.220
I was watching Dunkirk and it was like the last 30 minutes that she'd already watched
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It was the last 20 minutes of the movie and I'm invested in the shit and she's like,
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And I was so pissed off because I'm big into film.
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I mean, I still fucked her for a couple months, but I was like, you need to leave.
06:35:51.800
She was like, hey, did you watch that new movie?
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Was that your, was that your first date to go on a movie?
06:35:58.320
Nah, we've been seeing each other for a little while.
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Hey, uh, be nice to, this is your, that's your people, bro.
06:36:30.520
Vato, how are you going to talk to him like that?
06:37:27.940
Wait, how did I get to the movie thing, though?
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Look, if I'm with a girl and we're watching a movie or a TV show.
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If I'm watching a movie with a chick or a show,
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Shut the fuck up if we're watching a movie or a TV show.
06:38:20.240
With Game of Thrones, I actually like giving her info.
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That's what me and my wife and I have been doing.
06:38:25.400
For Game of Thrones, because Game of Thrones is.
06:38:31.600
So if I'm with a girl where I'm watching Game of Thrones,
06:38:41.020
Like, if we're watching a movie, you got to shut the fuck up.
06:38:57.240
But what was like, what was the main point of all that though?
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Something that they're going to show you in like the next five seconds.
06:41:21.000
I need to know exactly what happens in the movie.
06:42:22.860
I'm literally about to marry a white guy right now.
06:48:23.220
She shouldn't have had sex since the Biden administration.
06:48:39.440
Not having had sex since the Biden administration.
06:48:47.760
When's the last time she got her guts rearranged?
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How am I really supposed to know if she's been a good girl?
06:50:00.000
The like nerdy Asian chick who doesn't wear makeup.
06:51:47.020
So if you don't know what the situation is with the girl and she's, you know, she's, she's getting around.
06:52:02.940
Another man's DNA or seed could be in and around her pussy.
06:52:16.120
He's never had sex before and this is like showing it slowly, like revealing itself.
06:53:09.520
Wait, are you talking about pre-shower or before or after shower?
06:53:29.920
Like even if it was just, you know, you met him at a club or a bar or Tinder.
06:53:37.400
I don't think I'd ever ask for that on the first date.
06:53:40.060
Whether you ask for it or not, the guy could be like, I'm eating the pussy.
06:53:45.000
But some guys, I mean, I think most guys who do eat pussy, they're not waiting for you
06:53:59.120
You'd probably want to make sure it's okay first.
06:54:04.860
If you go down on the woman and she was recently with another guy and you now have.
06:55:07.360
Not wanting to perform oral sex doesn't mean a lack of care for the woman's pleasure.
06:55:16.380
I almost care more than my own pleasure when I'm with a woman.
06:55:33.440
I, you know, I'm going to give it the old college try.
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I'm just going to ask how it's going to happen without the, I don't do that.
06:55:42.060
Well, I know you're challenged in that department.
06:55:58.760
You, you like touch and they're already, they're done.
06:56:06.620
But like sometimes it really, truly, it really, truly is the case.
06:56:09.820
Well, some girls are just like super multi-orgasmic.
06:56:42.700
Most I can do with a vibrator with my fingers is like maybe three or four times in a row.
06:56:46.340
But like I think the max I've hit is like four.
06:56:53.660
Like as soon as you come, you're just like, all right.
06:57:03.500
I feel like if I finish, I still want to keep going.
06:57:42.760
In the clip I posted, I laid those arguments out and all the comments were like, still
06:57:55.500
Oh, I think he was saying because I called him a Puerto Rican vet.
06:58:13.520
If your husband was an authoritarian dictator of a South American country and you guys were
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abducted by the United States, would you, would that create conflict in your relationship?
06:58:37.200
America at like 2 a.m. in, in wherever the South American country is.
06:58:43.040
2 a.m., well, yeah, or it could be another one, whichever South American country, and
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you're just, you're laying in your, your Egyptian sheets, Egyptian sheets, 300 thread
06:58:55.760
count or whatever the fuck it is, is maybe that's really bad.
06:58:59.460
1,500, uh, thread count and you're just sleeping there and then, and then you hear, uh, uh,
06:59:17.600
I feel like it'd be, it'd bring you closer together because you're going through this
06:59:24.140
It's like, it's like Bonnie and Clyde, Bonnie and Clyde, you guys are criminals in this
06:59:29.540
How long would you stay with your boyfriend if he was going to jail?
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Let's just say, let's say the crime, it's not like some crazy shit, like he's fucking abusing
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How long would you stay loyal and stay with the guy, your, your man in prison?
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If he treated me good and we were otherwise happy, I would, I would stay loyal.
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And like, if there's no chance of him getting out, nah, I couldn't, I don't have the patience.
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How long would you tolerate your man being in prison for?
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What's the longest you would wait for a man who's in prison?
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I mean, if he goes to prison, it wasn't meant to be.
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There's nothing wrong with a happy ending sometimes.
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I had the conversation with him and I said if it was vice versa.
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Like she could go to a massage parlor and the guy could like rub her.
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My argument was that if he if you went to prison he could get happy ending massages.
07:03:47.580
Don't they usually have sex at the end of those though?
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I thought you told me you could get a happy ending from a dude in prison.
07:04:15.020
Here I'm gonna get into some of the pre-show notes here.
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We'll do somebody else's notes because we already did one.
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These are notes from like my first time I went on.
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Well I'll just say you said women rarely go for the good guy.
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Where it's like you get the stuff that's instant gratification.
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Even though he might not be the best scenario from the beginning.
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The guys that like pan out later on that you kind of have to build.
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I don't really have any notes for you aside from the horse stuff.
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And I asked you said you have you're technically with someone but it's open concept.
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I mean you can have kids without getting married.
07:05:43.000
I noticed you post your husband a little bit but not very much.
07:05:50.920
Your Instagram is not that bad but there is like some kind of revealing stuff.
07:06:18.380
A lot of guys are surprised they're not hitting on the first date.
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It's because like when they ask like like they're like they take off their pants in the
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car or something like that and they look at me.
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Like it happens especially because I'm younger and I deal with like more immature guys.
07:06:55.880
As soon as you get in the car they're they're putting their hand on your thighs.
07:06:59.140
Or like they put my hand and then they look at me and then I'm like what?
07:07:11.760
I've seen some funny videos where women will like role play like guys.
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But not like that stuff but just like when they go for the make out or whatever that's
07:07:36.760
Yeah that's that's all that that you described is pretty weird though.
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What if the guy is a gentleman but trying to hit.
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You have to assume that people who like you or want to date you are attracted to you.
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And then he made me cancel an other plan with one of my friends.
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After he realized he wasn't getting what he wanted.
07:10:11.300
He thought you were going to have sex with him instead of the plans.
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You also wrote why guys always feel entitled to hit after buying shit for you.
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But if you do this like transactional thing where it's like.
07:12:27.280
Also on one of your IG reels says the following.
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You know how much hate I got in my DMs just for that?
07:15:17.500
So once I found out that he was cheating and he did the physical abuse.
07:15:24.780
So basically we I I basically told his mom we're over and then he trusts me so he trusted
07:15:33.740
me so much so much that he only trusted his family and me during that time.
07:15:38.500
And so for me I think I'm kind of like I I love people watching I try to like get people
07:15:55.340
I okay to be to be to be fair I gave what he invested it in.
07:16:07.700
I mean it was under my everything my name because he was from another country.
07:16:11.580
All socials were under it and we never did a contract.
07:16:18.700
His dad owns like a really huge company in an oil company in Japan.
07:16:29.900
So he used to own a Japanese company oil company in Japan.
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He was my ex was supposed to take it but he sold it for a lot of money.
07:16:47.680
If you guys want to get like a roast in or whatever.
07:16:56.700
If you guys want to get a message in as we're getting towards the kind of tail end of the show here.
07:17:14.280
And also to the woman with the guy in the car that's called Grape.
07:18:08.540
The aggression is still like a violation of like your boundaries and stuff.
07:18:35.200
I thought innies were like the beauty standard.
07:19:06.680
We got somebody who just got something from the merch shop.
07:19:15.120
Your girlfriend Zoe hates when you watch the podcast.
07:19:39.720
I pull up the super and then we're going to have you read it.
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The problem is when you don't hold that accountable, it will continue.
07:19:54.340
If that happened every time, like I would be locking up like five men a week.
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Like the girl has to like, like if the girl is on the fence, I'm like, no.
07:20:31.980
Well, it's like, like I'll even, women will almost do, sometimes, sometimes women have done
07:20:39.660
this reversal where it's like the girl seems like a bit on the fence, like, I don't know.
07:20:46.380
Like, I'm not, I'm not saying I'm like anything special, but I have to be careful a little
07:20:50.780
bit in the way I move, you know, because there's a, for, for somebody who's in the public
07:20:55.000
eye, you got to be a little, you know, and like, if I feel any, like any, it's okay.
07:21:12.780
I'm not going to be, I don't want to be the pushy guy.
07:21:15.140
I never want to be the guy who's put like, like that at all.
07:21:17.960
But then some girls would be like, no, no, no, no.
07:21:29.080
Maybe you should eat it and she'd be more into it.
07:21:33.120
It's like, if the, like, cause then, because then it's like, oh, she sees that I, I pulled
07:21:48.000
Like she has to be, there has to be mutual desire and enthusiasm.
07:21:58.100
Y'all need to learn to ask for consent, enthusiastic consent.
07:22:02.220
No, but look, sometimes like a woman can feel a little nervous and that's okay.
07:22:07.040
Like, you know, don't negate the fact that we're talking about consent right now.
07:22:10.880
No, I'm just, I'm saying, no, what I'm saying is like, cause I like a man to take charge.
07:22:15.440
So like, if I'm being like, you know, not so aggressive about it, do they know if I want
07:22:26.860
Just security, reassurance, communication, consent.
07:22:31.200
I can't, it, a girl, a girl has to be like fully, otherwise I just, nah.
07:22:50.960
Brian, by your logic, kissing could also be GFY if you consider a girl could have sucked
07:22:56.460
love and have residue in their mouths from whatever even after brushing their teeth and using
07:23:23.520
No, he's saying like kissing a girl, if she kissed another girl, like the same.
07:23:32.580
Is kissing a man less gay than kissing a woman by that?
07:23:41.080
But what if that man also had a dick in his mouth?
07:23:50.180
I mean, it's like, if you don't know, then technically you're not gay, but that woman
07:23:58.200
But you could say the same thing about the pussy.
07:24:02.460
Like, for example, like, look, like, I, you know, it's a, it's kind of a heavy topic,
07:24:06.480
but like, uh, you, you can't count towards your body count non-consensual.
07:24:16.100
Like, if, if, if a girl was essayed that, that's not, I wouldn't, I wouldn't say that's
07:24:27.800
But what I'm saying is like, if, if a girl, like it was in her mouth and you didn't know,
07:24:50.320
Like, then she makes out with you right after, and there's semen residue in the chick's mouth.
07:25:03.400
If I, if I, if you suck a dick and this is really weird.
07:25:07.680
Um, if you just have a mouthful of cum and then you go outside and you spit it on a stranger.
07:25:16.240
But say the kiss is, is consensual, but the guy doesn't know.
07:25:20.840
But, but say the guy, he doesn't know that your mouth is fucking got jizz in it.
07:25:26.640
And he, so he's consensually kissing you, but he wouldn't have consented had he known
07:25:37.000
They classify essay or a one classification of essay is like intentionally spreading an
07:25:51.560
I would, yeah, I'm pretty sure it falls under essay.
07:25:57.440
We were going to have a girl come on the show and in her pre-show notes, she said something
07:26:09.800
I so, she ended up flaking and then we never were able to get her on.
07:26:14.420
I wish I fucking had her on because I would have called her out.
07:26:17.340
She said that she was dating a guy who felt uncomfortable kissing after, you know, she'd
07:26:25.580
go down on him, which you might say, ah, that's kind of whatever.
07:26:29.420
Or you might be like, well, I guess that's valid.
07:26:32.380
So what she, she wrote in her notes is she said, you know, this guy was dating.
07:26:36.560
He was uncomfortable if we kissed after I gave him head.
07:26:40.360
She received his load in her mouth and then forcefully basically spit it into his mouth.
07:27:00.160
That's if he, if your partner says, I don't want to kiss after you've just done this sex
07:27:10.740
So he's just uncomfortable even after, like, if there's even the chance of some residue,
07:27:15.080
now you're going to, and I wish she, but she canceled, but I took a fucking screenshot.
07:27:31.140
Will you kiss a girl if she just went down on you?
07:27:58.620
But, uh, yeah, I don't know if, uh, we can kiss before.
07:28:10.680
Honestly, like, I'm a little, like, I'll be honest.
07:28:14.900
You might not like to hear it, but at least you know I'm honest.
07:28:16.780
Even if she's, like, gone and, like, washed her mouth or whatever, like, brushed her teeth.
07:28:23.480
I feel like I gotta wait till the next day to kiss her again.
07:28:31.300
So it could be, like, 12 hours, not, like, 24 hours.
07:28:50.660
I'd kiss a guy if he went down on me, like, after that.
07:28:53.480
Somebody in the chat says, bro, if it's yours, it's not that serious.
07:29:19.680
You guys are masturbating and drinking your own fucking weirdos?
07:29:34.700
You're very hydrated, so I'd assume so, probably.
07:29:43.940
Okay, we have the best, the best tasting sperm, okay?
07:31:05.640
You need to choose better women to hang out around.
07:31:15.260
You notice that he had a whole talk about oral sex, right?
07:31:23.640
Look, sometimes I just want to be a little spoon.
07:31:42.120
Okay, so the business was six figures and you stole it.
07:32:19.340
No, I was saying she was, like, trying to, like, hold back to not, like, you know?
07:32:29.600
I think it's a stereotype, but you guys like the stereotype, and then you use the stereotype
07:32:37.340
Okay, to be fair, like I said, he abused me, and he was crazy.
07:32:41.860
So, in Japan, there's a job called Yamai Baito.
07:32:50.920
He did a lot of those jobs in Japan because he was actually an ex-professional baseball
07:32:54.680
player, but he injured his knee, and he was doing those jobs, and the dad found out.
07:33:00.940
I feel like that's enough information for somebody to find him.
07:33:11.860
There's a bunch of detectives in the chat that are probably...
07:33:17.780
No, okay, but to be fair, he actually even abused animals, too.
07:33:34.040
I was at the apartment, and one day, I got him so pissed off that all that anger, he put
07:33:57.740
Then we're gonna have another one of those now.
07:34:02.980
And he was so sick to the point that he'll go to websites where there's animal cruelty.
07:34:15.380
I felt Satan, demons was in him, but yet none of his family knew about it.
07:34:20.760
I was the one that knew about everything, and I'm surprised that...
07:34:25.080
Like, if I genuinely saw somebody abusing, like, an innocent dog, like, this guy has to
07:34:46.240
If you abuse animals, you don't deserve to live.
07:34:53.200
When I was in Japan, first time I was in Japan, he's like, if you're gonna leave me, I'll kill
07:35:11.560
That are in that work that basically can, like...
07:35:22.640
Just because you think highly of yourself, just because you think you come from a rich family,
07:35:26.680
high status, thinking you can do all that BS to me.
07:35:45.140
You think asking about body count is being insecure?
07:35:49.860
Every guy that I dated that I have been asked out, they never ask for my body count.
07:35:54.220
Because they know the type of person that I am.
07:35:56.640
Like, if you meet a person, you kind of sense, like, how they are.
07:36:01.260
So, they don't have the need to ask, like, what's your body count?
07:36:08.080
There's been some women who I thought, like, you think you can get that sense.
07:36:16.040
But, I'm telling you, there's some unassuming women, you'd be like, you have no idea this
07:36:28.680
Like, she could be timid and quiet and shy, and she's...
07:36:47.380
Hey, Mary, can you get me the fucking pen that fell?
07:36:56.960
Well, in my defense, like, you guys worry too much about body count, but I've seen so
07:37:20.140
The city that she lives in, and I also, like...
07:37:30.020
Like, the girl that got engaged, everyone knows that she's a hoe.
07:37:36.960
And that guy was super rich, got her body done, everything.
07:37:42.680
So I think there's some people online, and some men cope about this.
07:38:02.040
I think good-looking people, but especially good-looking women, it doesn't matter what they did.
07:38:12.260
Good-looking women have a way of always landing on their feet.
07:38:16.760
And as much as men like to cope, oh, my God, she used to be a fucking sex worker, it's over.
07:38:30.140
I'm not saying your life's going to be perfect if you did some stupid shit in your past.
07:38:34.500
But a lot of good-looking women, they'll land on their feet.
07:38:58.760
But I don't think quite to the extent as it is for women.
07:39:07.200
They're finding simps and shit, and they're married.
07:39:12.420
Like, I don't know, this idea, oh, you're a sex worker.
07:39:16.080
If you're a sex worker, that's going to have some negative.
07:39:18.860
That is going to have, whether you get out of it or not, down the road, that could present issues for you.
07:39:25.840
But I think, overall, they tend to land on their feet.
07:39:30.520
Pretty women, attractive women, land on their feet.
07:39:50.200
The cognitive bias that people get what they deserve, meaning good things happen to good people,
07:40:05.080
Yeah, you guys did not give me enough money, by the way.
07:40:26.960
Should the past not matter going around the table?
07:41:01.540
Because I thought you were, yeah, you were talking about my roster.
07:41:04.360
I thought you meant over the years, my whole list, my body count.
07:41:41.700
I totally forgot to include women the last time I was here.
07:42:19.480
By the way, almost 300 episodes, I've never shared the body count.
07:42:59.620
Because most of the big, big p-stars that you know from browsers, p-hub, all these girls,
07:43:15.680
But they're, I would say, I would say mainstream is even crazier than OF because like you're
07:43:24.040
Um, but if you're working like with many, many, many people, um, and a lot of the time the
07:43:29.780
boyfriends, the husbands, they're, they're marrying them.
07:43:41.440
Well, I think they, regardless of their behavior, there is a simp factor.
07:43:46.300
I think baked into, uh, like, okay, that girl's ran through like that simp in and of itself,
07:43:56.580
like dealing with a girl who's used to do gang bangs and shit that you're kind of a
07:44:03.880
Even if you don't act like a simp, you're kind of a simp.
07:44:11.940
I was just asking why, like, like, why do we care?
07:44:14.920
Like, if like, if I'm in love with you, why does it matter like what I've done in the
07:44:26.240
Well, I didn't need that info, but, um, we mentioned, I thought you were a gynecologist.
07:44:31.360
Listen, listen, this is a, uh, a, a, you know, this is,
07:44:53.500
Um, I was just asking why, like, the gang bang and the body count was like important.
07:44:59.820
You just have no self, as a guy, if you wife, look, I'll be, I'll keep it real.
07:45:04.520
If you wife up a girl who's done that shit, who's fucking, that's kind of like, I'm talking
07:45:26.920
She's got 10 plus, she's got 20 plus, she's got 50 plus, she's got a hundred plus, she
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Some of these guys, like the fucking Riley Reed or whatever, seems like a nice enough
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girl, I guess, minus the, like dropping the hard R and whatever, but it's like, she seems
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But I mean, she did like multiple, multiple gang bangs.
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That doesn't make her immoral or a bad partner or a bad person.
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It might make her immoral, but depending on your perspective on morality, but, uh, when
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did Aristotle ever mention, oh, because you slept with this many people, you're not virtuous.
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I'm pretty, Aristotle definitely wrote some books about that, but I would say that I, I don't
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know, I would say that, uh, that's just, look, it goes, then it just transcends your relationship.
07:46:30.540
Look, if your mom, if your mom was like a hoe kind of privately, not like a prostitute,
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but look, she got 20, 30, 40 bodies or whatever.
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That's probably, that's not really going to have an impact on your kids.
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Like people don't really know about people's sexual histories like that, but when it's public,
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And then, then the kids are going to get bullied.
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Do you remember what I said the first time about that?
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Look, I'll just say it's sub, it is suboptimal to date a woman who has that shit online.
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Look, I'll just say this to any women out there, like considering doing sex work, your future
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husband and children will not appreciate nude photos of you being out there on the internet.
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I will say that it's, it's different and you got to have like a really cool dude to
07:47:51.540
Like I'm not, some people do a cope where it's like, oh my God, no one will ever date
07:47:57.180
Like most of these OF girls who even claim they're single, they secretly have boyfriends.
07:48:07.760
A lot of these girls, look, a lot of the OF girls, oh, I'm single.
07:48:15.080
Like, uh, or even if they say that, like, but it does present a complication to the relationship.
07:48:36.200
So I think I'll come back to Cece's notes, but I think we did.
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Maybe we can talk about horses for real, uh, a little second.
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So tell me your, your horse girl, give us the scoop.
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What, um, are they crazy or is that just bullshit?
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Anybody that gets any kind of satisfaction from almost dying every time they get on an animal with its own brain is a crazy person.
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And most of the time, AK Michelle gets thrown off in the dirt and she'll just keep going.
07:49:24.580
I think, uh, what's that saying, uh, for a girl who has horses, is there a saying there's a, there's a order of importance in her life.
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That's the order of importance for horse girls.
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If I, you know, when I have a daughter, she's, she's.
07:50:20.580
So there, there are like, there are some benefits of dating a horse girl.
07:50:54.340
Modern dating is going through a strange transition period right now.
07:51:18.480
Oh, you were in a mutually violent relationship for three years.
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It was like, uh, he would say things that really upset me.
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And, like, I would just try to throw, like, a punch or a kick or something.
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I bit, and I left Mark, like, twice, and that was really it.
07:52:18.140
He, yeah, he and I were together for three years.
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We were teenagers, so that was something to get over.
07:52:40.560
I mean, if he's willing to hurt somebody else, they're usually going to hurt themselves.
07:52:47.060
It's a weird thing, because it's, like, obviously he didn't start it.
07:53:17.040
No, but, like, other guys you date, do you get violent with them?
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It's reactionary to things that they do or make me feel, but I haven't...
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It's reactionary, but they'll do things that aren't physical.
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So let me give you the example of what happened.
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He was, this guy, this was earlier, or I guess 2025, he was drunk, and I had picked him up after he went out with his buddies or whatever, and I picked him up from his friend's house.
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He wanted to stop at the gas station because it's fat ass.
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Because his fat ass wanted to get snacks from the gas station, but the gas station was open, so he was all pissed off.
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We get to my apartment complex, and he's like, I'm gonna slam your door into this car.
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And I'm like, oh, no, baby, please don't do that.
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If you want to ask a question, do you want me to answer it?
07:54:35.940
So, then I grabbed him by, like, the collar, and then that was it.
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So, you'll put your hands on the man before he puts his hands on you.
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I get that he pissed you off or whatever, or did something bad, but...
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Fucked up my car, and somebody else's car in my car.
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You've put, and I'm asking this as a question, have you put your hands on a guy when he just
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But sometimes you can be, like, rageful from kind of something or nothing, you know?
07:55:18.140
Like, what if he was, like, I want to deport illegal immigrants?
07:55:33.160
We were going through the Bojangles drive-thru.
07:55:35.520
We had just paid, and we were just driving off.
07:55:37.700
And he had said something real nasty about gay people.
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And I took my little Bojangles box, because the Supreme came in a little box, and I, like,
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He chucked that fucking Bojangles box at the side of my head so hard.
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Like, my ear was ringing for, like, 20 minutes.
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And then he ended up not being homophobic before he died.
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Because I feel like for most women, if you're in a relationship with them, if you never put
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your hands on her, she should never put her hands on you, right?
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But I feel like for you, in the back of a guy's head, he's always got to think, I could
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I might never put hands on her, but I could do something.
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We could be having some crazy fucking argument, and you're going to start throwing hands.
07:57:17.660
Well, we haven't talked in a little bit, but I love Regina.
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Like, that guy earlier this, you know, this past year, I learned from that in the way that
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I'm not just going to sit around and be angry at somebody.
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If somebody's making me mad to the point where I really want to lay hands on them, like, that
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Because the last time we saw each other, it's been, like, two years.
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The days apart means you won't get sick of each other.
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Yeah, but you don't want to talk to her for days at a time?
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The happiest marriages, I know, both people are working all day, like non-stop, like not
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It's not even working all day, but just not seeing each other all the time.
07:59:18.640
What, those like five seconds, you guys, it takes five seconds to send a good morning text.
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I mean, if it's your wife, but like just your girlfriend for like a year, okay.
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You don't need to hear from me every single day.
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Like, she should be, you know, she should meet the standard, right?
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But you should be dating and tending to marry that girl.
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You should be dating and tending to like, to, for marriage.
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Although, I mean, even in the marriage, I think.
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Well, at that point, you're probably living together, right?
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If you're living together, you're more or less probably going to see each other every day.
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But like, if you live in the same city, but you have separate houses, I don't think you
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Not every day, but like, not texting her for like.
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You at least have to have like one meaningful conversation a day with.
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Like, it could be five minutes, but it has to be like something that actually connects
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Sorry, I got, I threw up a little bit in my mouth.
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Look, I'm just saying, I was in high school, like my senior year of high school, I still
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So look, I'm just saying, I'm a different, I'm a different generation.
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And back in my day, we used to, people didn't always used to have access to you like
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Like people, I don't know, I don't know the best way to frame this, but there wasn't
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an expectation of instantaneous accessibility like there is today.
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This is the type of stuff that I get on my woke feed that I cultivated for wokeness.
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I don't want some girl blowing my phone up ever.
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Like, first off, text is so, texting should be for planning.
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I don't want to have a conversation with you over text.
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These people are fucking texting each other all day.
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I got, I'm, you know, I'm a businessman because you find me at my places of business.
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You know, they say that rich people respond instantly.
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I mean, if it's a business email, if it's a business email, I try to get to it.
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No one's ever that busy for like a five second text message.
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If you're hitting, if you're fucking too, like, you're like pressing me a little bit.
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I hate texting because it's like you, you don't just finish the conversation.
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Like, like, it's so annoying to have to type something out, put your phone down, go back
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to what you're doing and then types and then go and then type and then go back and then
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Well, the other thing, too, is I would rather sometimes people be having conversations
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over text that could last one, two, three hours.
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I can have that conversation with you in 10 minutes over the phone.
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The same amount of time we're going to be texting each other for fucking two hours.
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We can sort that shit in 10 minutes on the phone.
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Well, don't call me if it's for, you got to call me with an intention.
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She's the only one I will chit chat with, ever.
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Uh, nah, that's, I think that's from the girl who left.
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Oh, let's do the question, some of the stuff on the questionnaire.
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I got a couple rapid fire things and then we're going to wrap.
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So, okay, let's do, we're not going to do bear unless, I don't think any, did anybody even
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Since those two girls left, I think it, oh, you picked the bear.
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Here, let's, hey, where's, uh, where's that, where's, uh, Caitlin?
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Um, at least 100K because a nursing job has to be, he has to be making more than me.
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Um, I said 80K last time, but I'm changing it to 60.
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Uh, how tall are you and what's the minimum height of a man you would date?
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Besides what we already covered, any disagreements?
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Any disagreements besides anything we've already covered?
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We're not going to be able to hit all of these, but we'll just do a few.
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Um, women are the primary victims of war, not men.
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Like, the first thing that they do is get to pillaging the women.
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Even though, like, 99% of people who die during war are men.
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If you want to, like, dispute it in terms of, like, civilian casualties, it's probably...
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Yeah, it's probably not 99% there, but military casualties, which are the majority of casualties in any military conflict, 99% men.
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So, are men the primary victims of war, or are women?
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We've had women on the show say they'd rather be killed than essayed.
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I said, you know, within the last couple hours, I'm pretty sensitive.
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But there are perhaps things that might be worse than that.
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But there are some things that would be worse than that.
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Yeah, I mean, let's say there's not, like, torture.
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Some fucking creep in the bushes who fucking...
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But then he just runs, and it's over, you know?
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At least at that point, I have a chance to, like, still live.
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There's still the sunshine, and there's still swimming in the ocean.
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Y'all can't do that on this coast, but on the Atlantic, we got it going on.
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I think because I know how it feels, I would just take it, like...
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Well, it happens for free if it's die, or have it happen, then...
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I'm already living, might as well just continue.
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I guess my only question on this is, like, if you'd rather just, like...
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If it's, like, that's your position, you'd rather just be, like, get killed?
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Wouldn't you just want to, like, instantly unalive yourself if it did happen?
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In the context of this conversation, who's the primary victims of war?
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And sometimes this conversation comes up, and women will say, oh, I'd way rather get
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assayed than killed, shot to death, or whatever.
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I don't know if they're saying that to, like, back their own point.
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Obviously, rape is, like, terrible, terrible thing.
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But I was thinking, like, I don't know if they're just...
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I know this is a terrible thing to think about.
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Well, consider it being a philosophical conversation.
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From, like, a philosophical perspective, it's a terrible thing to even think about.
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But, like, I wouldn't want my daughter to die, is what I'm saying.
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That would be so terrible to have my daughter go through the other thing, though.
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But if I had to, like, some fucking super messed up scenario where one or the other had to happen, it would be so traumatic for her.
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But also for me, as the father, to have that happen to my daughter.
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But I would not want my daughter to, like, die, you know?
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Well, hopefully you gave her the mental tools to stay strong through it.
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But, like, I'd be like, at least I still have her, you know?
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Depends on the severity and how it affects you.
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How many of y'all have been, are we allowed to say, without, like, grapes, without the
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I guess in this specific question is a violation of your mouth, your vagina, or your butt hole.
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And I have met, even, like, just SA, like, being sexually assaulted, I think every single
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woman that I have met has experienced some sexual assault in one way or another.
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And me, knowing myself, and then also knowing all my female friends, I have experienced it
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to, like, sexual assault to a very minimal degree, like, groomed online type of stuff,
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and then, like, you know, groping, but I've never been, like, super violated to that extent.
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But, like I said, every single woman that I know has been sexually violated.
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And that is a point that I want for contemplation for the men that are watching.
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Be better and hold your male friends accountable.
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If, you know, somebody's talking about, you know, how they coerced a girl or how they are
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violent, you know, anything like that, stand up and be an activist because women experience
08:16:36.860
So, like, look, I think you're, this is an awful crime.
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However, this, what you're starting to get into is rape culture.
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And you think that men, wholesale, or much, like, lots of men, are, like, kind of cool with it.
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Maybe they wouldn't do it, but they're kind of like, you know what?
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But, I can tell, like, look, most men, if they knew that their buddy did something like
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Like, that's not, like, do you think guys are, like, bragging about that shit?
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Like, any normal guy, if his guy friend is, first off, that would be insane.
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The president of the United States said, not even talking about the allegations.
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Let me finish my point really quick before you bring up the president.
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I'm sorry, there, there are bad men out there, but, like, guys, if you're in a friend group
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and, like, one of the guys started bragging, like, okay, let me put it to you, like, the
08:18:02.100
If you're in prison, and typically people who are in prison are not, like, the most morally
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sound people, and they're maybe not the most honest people, if you're in prison amongst
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criminals who could murder people and did all this shit, if they find out that you touched
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a woman or you touched a child, you're getting fucking killed, even among this element of society
08:18:30.880
that most people would be like, whoa, those people are, they will kill a person if they know
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So, I'm telling you, normal guys, this rape culture, nah, that's, you're a monster if
08:18:47.280
I think it's because a lot of men don't see coercion as, like, an actual assault.
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Like, I mean, if you serious, like, there's a line where you are sitting there and asking
08:19:01.440
someone for something so many times and they've said no, that it begins to be manipulative
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That's just one of the many stories where, like, that happened.
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Like, they got in the car and then he instantly started trying to get her to...
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Well, I don't think that that's, like, coercion.
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But I just mean, like, a lot of, like, younger guys especially...
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They don't understand what actually constitutes as a assault.
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Let's say I'm in a relationship with a girl and we've had consensual sex a hundred times.
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And then I tell her, hey, uh, I, this is a major issue in our relationship.
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I want to feel needed and desire blah, blah, blah, et cetera, et cetera.
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This isn't how I would say it, but I'm contemplating breaking up with you if we don't have sex.
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If it was right after, like, if it was pretty shortly,
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it would have, that type of conversation has to be, like, pretty in-depth.
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You have to be understanding of why y'all are not having sex.
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Yeah, like, yeah, that was a polite explanation.
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You told her, like, oh, I want to feel wanted and needed in this relationship
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No, but what I'm saying is, though, is she's not in the mood or whatever.
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There's, who knows what's going on in the relationship.
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But I say, I will leave you if we don't have sex.
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And that is the motivation that wasn't previously existing for her to then have sex with me.
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Some people would consider this a level of coercion.
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I think it depends on the intention and the way you go about it.
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If you're genuinely telling your partner, like, this is a need for me.
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And if I don't get this, I can't be in this relationship.
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And it's not being used to manipulate them into having sex with you.
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Then that's just setting a totally normal boundary.
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Like, I don't know what there is to complain about that.
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I feel like in relationships, you make sacrifices like that sometimes.
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If she sees it as coercion herself, then that's a different conversation.
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But from an outside perspective, I don't really think that that would constitute...
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I've seen some literature from, like, some of these...
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For the actual definition of sexual coercion, that showed...
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Like, I think I got it from, like, the organization that's, like, anti-rape or whatever.
08:22:10.660
In the literature, in the study that they were referencing, threatening to break up with your girlfriend if she...
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Part of being in a relationship for me is having sex.
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I would technically be threatening a breakup if we don't figure out the sex situation.
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Like, it's the same logic if a woman sets a boundary.
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I'm going to break up with you if we don't have sex.
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And then you're fucking bugging her about it every day.
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Every single time you're getting a no, no, no, no, no.
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It takes a lot of attempts for it to really become coercion.
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Like, a lot of effort and energy in that situation.
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Because once somebody says no or if they're not really into it, it's pretty obvious.
08:23:31.140
Well, I think if you're pestering, then that can perhaps get into the territory of something inappropriate.
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I think some people would argue that that's coercive.
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It's how you're currently putting it is, like, she caves, not, like, she wants to address the issue.
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Yeah, like, she decided that she wants the relationship, and so she wants to fulfill her partner's desires.
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No, but she's doing, like, a sort of duty sex compromise where it's, like...
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But I've actually had to be, like, yo, pump the brakes.
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You know, I've had to be, like, you want it too much.
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I mean, my mother, she told me growing up that you shouldn't, you know, like, put a man, all that stuff, that relationship stuff on top.
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But in a relationship, like, committed, faithful relationship that you're actually trying to make something out of, you have to make sacrifices like that.
08:25:00.780
You're not going to just never have sex in your relationship unless you're both asexual.
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The framing could be, like, I'm trying to think of the framing where even if you just say it one time and then she's like, oh, I'm kind of, like, asexual or I don't have the desire, but I want to stay in the relationship with him.
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But I'm going to do the trade-off of having sex that I don't want to have to induce him to stay in the relationship.
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I think some people would view that as coercive.
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Because that's more of a psychological issue on yourself, honestly.
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Because it's like, why would you have, need to have sex with this person, need this person in your life so bad when they're telling you, like, I need this and you can't do it.
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You need to do that so much that you're willing to put yourself in an uncomfortable position.
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Like, I mean, if we're going to call everything SA and everything coercion, then nothing is SA.
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But that's, like, more of a, that's your own issue.
08:26:03.620
My thing is that if you're making a choice, and sometimes emotions come into play, like, there's nuance to things.
08:26:13.140
But you made a conscious decision to sleep with that person whether they threatened you or not.
08:26:19.760
But afterwards, you could say, oh, their approach to getting you to do it was inappropriate or whatever and so forth.
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But you did still agree, and it wasn't, like, a multiple attempt type of thing.
08:26:31.100
One attempt, like, that type of thing, it's just not coercion.
08:26:35.900
Well, I've also heard, like, what if the guy's all grumpy?
08:26:38.140
Well, that would lean into, like, the threat type of thing because it's, like, you're bringing your negative energy into their space.
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And that affects a person's mental, like, nobody wants that.
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I mean, my position would be if you've been sexually rejected by your, like, girlfriend who's demanded monogamy from you, I think it's a bit okay for the guy to be frustrated by that.
08:27:00.980
And I don't think that that would be, like, coercion.
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Like, is there a valid reason, or is it just, like, I don't want to?
08:27:20.200
But is it, like, I don't want to have sex with you?
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But if it's a pattern, like, she's frequently rejecting you.
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But, like, if your girlfriend's, like, not feeling well and she's not, whatever, that's totally fine.
08:27:29.780
It could be, so, like, consistent rejection or consistent denial of sex could be a hormonal issue, a mental issue, a treatment within the relationship issue.
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So, like, if my guy isn't treating me well outside of sex, I'm not going to want to give him my body and spirit.
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Yeah, there could be issues in the relationship.
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But if a guy gets all grumpy and he gets all, you know, whatever.
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I mean, the thing with coercion, the only reason we're debating what it is is because we're trying to classify it as whether it's S.A. or not, right?
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And then if we're talking about it in that way, then basically we have to kind of figure out where the legal standard is on it.
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So, like, because, I mean, at the end of the day, it's what we're talking about and you can't just be willy-nilly about it.
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I mean, I think coercion at the end of the day, it's got to be, like, it's threatening your life or your safety or something.
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Or at least putting you in a position where you feel like you can't deny it.
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Yeah, a guy can be shitty, but you can't, at some points, you can't call that coercion and then put it into a legal standard.
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And I could coerce you to eat a potato chip that you didn't want to eat.
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I think we need to differentiate guys who, I'm going to relate this to, a guy can be a jerk, a guy can be mean, a guy can be rude, a guy can be a dick, a guy can be an asshole.
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But I don't think it can, those things can always fall into the category of abuse, for example.
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And that's, I think, sort of what you're getting at.
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He wouldn't buy me a, what was the car that you wanted?
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That's like me saying, men are the primary sufferers when women are pregnant.
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Like, you know, you're in the hospital room and she squeezes your hand really hard.
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And I got to be, I'm playing my Xbox or whatever.
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Well, that's, no, honestly, that's exactly what you're doing.
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There's, I don't know how you get over, how you can even argue to the contrary.
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Yeah, like, too typically when it comes to war.
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Like, didn't you hear, I think, I think they probably said it a couple times in Game of Thrones.
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I didn't only watch it until like the bread wedding.
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But I'm sure, like, in those types of situations, we see it like we're taking your women and your children.
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Like, I mean, they take the castle first, technically.
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Chantel, you say women are just as physically strong as men.
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But wait, you think, why should men pay on first dates?
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Because I think, I put this in my show notes, actually, in my little message.
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Because I think women inherently put more on the table than men do.
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Women put in more effort or something, I think you wrote.
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We provide an emotional comfort that men cannot find anywhere else.
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If a guy's hanging out with you, he's got to be worried if he's going to get his fucking
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I haven't dated anybody for that long since that.
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And I try to make my principles based on being a better person.
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Anyways, sociologically, men benefit more from being in relationships, being married to
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Women live shorter when they're married to men.
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If your lifespan increases by just being with me, by being married to me, that's me putting
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I think what you're referencing is what they've done is, so men who die at like 18, 19, 20,
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they were never old enough to have ever been married.
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So they're factoring in men who were 18, 19, and 20 who died and never got married in these
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statistics versus men who get married typically didn't die at 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23.
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So the statistics are a little bit skewed because of that.
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They could be, but usually studies and stuff are, especially more recent studies, are built for, built around controls, or they have controls in those studies to consider those.
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The sociological studies, which are basically feminist studies, with their intellectual rigor.
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I'm sure the study you're referencing was completely unbiased.
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It was conducted with an irreproachable, spotless, intellectual rigor, and, I don't know, perfect methodology.
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You know, feminism and sociologists are very interested in, you know, creating unbiased research that doesn't, you know, confirm their pre-existing conclusions about a topic.
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If it involves the scientific method, then it is science.
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Celine, you would not date a man who owned a firearm.
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If I'm, like, going into a new relationship, I probably wouldn't.
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I just think that it, in where we live, specifically, it's not entirely necessary.
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Like, we're not, there's no real danger, no real necessity.
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I feel like if you're living in a place where there's a lot of, like, activity and gangs,
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Not in the studio, but, like, if you're going into a city or something or into a place where
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I think I would rather have somebody, like, a bodyguard with a gun.
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Unless you're completely, like, in the middle of nowhere, which there are a couple places
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in the country, but I'm assuming you don't live there.
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I honestly can't imagine a place there where I wouldn't.
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Like, I just stayed in a cabin in Montana that didn't have houses for, like, miles.
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Okay, well, if anything, that's more valid to have a weapon out there.
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Because, but I'm, in my, you know, 21 years of living in basically the same home with the
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same family, same neighbors, there's never been any real reason for me to have, you know,
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Well, and God forbid, like, someone, like, break into your home and they're armed.
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I don't think that me having a gun would really make a difference if somebody broke into my
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It would make a difference if they shoot you first.
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That's why, that's why a great additive is also a dog.
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To a, most second A advocates, like, my biggest other thing is have a good dog.
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I mean, to be fair, I wish I owned a firearm because this actually happened a couple months
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We were in the city, me and my homegirl driving around, and this one guy actually had a gun
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He pulls it out, and he literally stares at us, like, literally road rage.
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I mean, one could argue that that happened because people are allowed to have guns in
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Of course, but there's a huge difference between somebody holding a gun at you and somebody
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It can kill somebody, but even in any video game, you know that close range does not beat
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Okay, now we're getting a little specific with the weapons here.
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I don't think that everyday civilians really need that stuff unless everybody has it.
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If nobody had guns, then nobody would need them.
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In a perfect utopia where guns have never been invented, sure, we can argue that, but now
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there's millions and millions and millions of guns in the U.S.
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People who want them illegally will get them regardless, and there's 500,000 to 3 million
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defensive users of firearms every single year as compared to under 20,000 violent users.
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And I'm not going to go after somebody who I know at least is, like, super into them.
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You know, like, it's one thing to own one if you really think it's a necessity for your
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Like, it depends on how deep into the hobby you are and what type, like, there's different
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Like, what's the, when are you like, okay, this guy's crazy?
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I think when it stops becoming like, oh, the machinery is cool, you know?
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Like, when it starts becoming, oh, shooting, killing, you know?
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I mean, you do go to the range to practice, and you practice your aim, you shoot.
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I'm an artist, so I have an appreciation for, like, how things are made.
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I think they're actually super cool, like, to look at.
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Like, I collect guns, and for me, it's the, I, like, go into the range and seeing how fucking
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I'm not, like, sitting there inspecting the machinery of the chambers, you know what I mean?
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Which, I mean, for some people that it is, but.
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I don't know if you're watching still, but thank you, man.
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I am trying to set you up, and maybe you could find some love on the Whatever podcast.
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He's not, like, famous in the same way, like, A-list celebrity.
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You know, like, some people, he was just like, ah, I didn't vote.
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Yeah, because I've been a long year, five years watching him.
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Well, you're married, so that's kind of obviously.
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Okay, we're gonna do the rapid-fire segment, and then we have one quick segment after that,
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You ask me for the super specific year question?
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Um, who was the first president of the United States?
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Okay, well, whatever is commonly understood as the first president of the United States.
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Uh, what country is the Great Wall of China in?
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I actually did not know that off the top of my head.
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How many days of the week end with the letter Y?
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If a dozen eggs costs $3, how much is each egg?
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In Wedding Crashers, at the end, when they meet, um, Chaz.
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Chaz Reinhold, and he's like, so he didn't crash weddings, he crashed funerals, and so,
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and he had this thing where he would, like, he did, I don't know, whatever.
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If you've seen the movie, you know, that, uh, whatever.
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If you're walking perfect north, and you turn right 90 degrees, which direction are you now
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What year did the, what year did the War of 1812 start?
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Where did the attack on Pearl Harbor take place?
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negative 14 oh negative 14 okay i didn't even bother doing it because i thought that you were
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just genuinely fucking with us it's because seven oh no wait what is seven you're wrong
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seven minus seven is zero minus seven is negative seven guys i'm just so confident i just believed
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it i'm like what the hell is going on yeah it's negative seven okay wow i said that first you
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see how that works okay uh what is 100 minus 66 uh 33 or 44 yeah 44 100 minus 66 44 guess again
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nobody help wait what you got it wrong guess again 100 minus 66 what is it is it not 40 answered it
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earlier i answered it backwards okay wait 100 minus 66 minus 66 yeah what's 10 minus six eight okay
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you're almost there so close what's the other number
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wait what isn't it 44 no 43 do the do the math real quick in your head guys wait just think about it
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take a deep breath and think about it stop it wait wait 100 minus 66
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i just had to take a quick stop you guys okay what is eight plus eight plus eight
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can we not do that into the mic 24 okay what is three times three times three
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uh 27 what is nine plus nine plus nine i don't want to do this oh my god welcome to fucking math
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class y'all thought you were going to talk about dating i really don't want to fuck no this is
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fucking no this is the one thing that like you have to really like i have to put the formula in my
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brain i don't want to what is it wait what was the nine plus nine plus nine uh isn't it 36
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27 oh my god yeah what is it 27 wait no wait no it's like 18 and then isn't it
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29 oh my god yes okay 29 i i i suck at math okay uh what is
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is it not 27 27 yeah it's 27 oh my god okay what is 100 minus 34
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66 give me a good one okay what is 9 minus 9 minus 9
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okay how about this how about this if yes is spelled y-e-s what does e-y-e-s spell
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i thought he had you on that one okay if you were born 10 years ago how old would you be today
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10 10 come on how many world wars were there i think there was like three or two
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three or two it's a toss-up well it's guys we're in the next nazi germany
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oh yeah we're about to have one yeah uh okay let's see uh what decade everybody's gonna answer this
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one what decade was world war one into the mic decade
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1970s no the decades no just decades 1910s 1920s 1910s
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1930s 1930s okay what's your name 1910s 1910s 1910s 1910s i'm gonna give you this one
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what was the primary decade of world war ii starting with you
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yep she's the only one sorry you guys all lost she got it right
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okay can you name it's gonna this one's a little more complicated for you
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can you name three allied powers three axis powers from world war ii
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technically they didn't get into that much involved
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and then what were some other european countries that were involved
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and i'll i'll count the united states for allied
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now these are gonna be rapid fire dating related
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going around the table what percent of men do you think are over six feet starting with you
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what percent of men make at least one million dollars a year starting
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i'll sell for a c7 but that's the lowest i'll go
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you don't you shouldn't use makeup wise to take off your makeup
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thank you to everyone who supported the show tonight
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really rude for you to have just taken up all this time on the podcast