$20,000,000 MINIMUM To Date HER？! ACCUSED OF MlSOGYNY？! Brian DEBATES Feminist! ｜ Dating Talk #262
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In this episode, we're joined by Emily and Brina, two college dropouts, to talk about their experiences in the dating world, and how to deal with the modern dating culture. Plus, we have a special guest, Isabel Brown, who just launched her brand new show at The Daily Wire.
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or listen wherever you get your podcasts. Without further ado, we're going to have the guests
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introduce themselves. So please tell us your name, age, occupation, where you're from, and
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education. Go ahead. Okay. I'm Brina. I'm 23. And I'm from San Diego, California. I'm a model,
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DJ, creative director, stylist. All right. And any college, anything like that?
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The world is my college. Street, street smarts, the school of hard knocks. I skipped a couple
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steps. You drop out of high school? No, I graduated high school. You graduated high school. Okay.
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What about you? My name's Emily. I'm 32 years old. I'm a funeral director and embalmer.
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And I received a bachelor's degree from Indiana University in studio art and art history and
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associates from Vincennes University in funeral science. Okay. Gotcha. And you're from?
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I'm from, well, I live in Bloomington, Indiana, but I'm originally from Jamestown, Indiana. So.
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Okay. Is this your first time in California? No, I was in LA twice in 2015 and in 2016.
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Gotcha. Okay. And the, uh, funeral directing, embalming, you, what's the, uh, do you sell
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caskets? Um, yes, that's part of what we do. That's, I wouldn't, we're not like salespeople
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and I don't get a commission for selling them. It's just. But you have a showroom like for the
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caskets? Um, we do. We only have, we have a smaller showroom though. So we only have corner
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samples of caskets and we also have a catalog you can look at. What's the most expensive
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casket that you sell? I think it's around $6,000. It's mahogany.
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Is that the like Ferrari of caskets? Um, for us it is. I know, um, Batesville, which is actually
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a company out of Indiana that makes caskets. Um, they have the Promethean, which is gold plated
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and has an interior that's velvet and red, but we don't sell. I mean, if someone requested
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it also, according to the federal trade commission funeral rule, you can buy a casket from anywhere
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and have it sent to the funeral home you're working with. And that funeral home has to
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accept it. They have to use it. How much is the Promethean? I have no idea by here. It's
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quite a bit. So five figures. Yeah. Okay. Gotcha. So you, you do like the embalming too. That's
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where you, uh, like put makeup on the deceased, right? Partially. And you give us like the explain
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like I'm five breakdown of what embalming is. So embalming is just basically halting the
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decomposition process. So someone can look their best and be viewable for their family. Um,
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it allows you to have more time with your loved one. Um, and it allows them to kind of look their
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most optimal in terms of firmness and color. Whereas if you're unembalmed and you can view
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someone, sometimes some people look great unembalmed, but some people look a lot more pale
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or they just may not look as lively. And then depending on what kind of body conditions and
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illnesses or medications you have, um, you could decompose faster than other people.
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Have you seen six feet under? I've seen parts. I'm not very fond of the show, but there are a
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couple episodes. I felt like the family handled some situations very badly and they're lucky
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their customers didn't find out. So. Gotcha. How much does it cost to be embalmed? Um, it varies
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from funeral home to funeral home, but any funeral home you ask is supposed to present a price list
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with all their, that's another federal trade commission rule. But, um, I think where I work charges
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at least I think around $1,200. So. And you said there's like, there's different things that you
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can ask for? Yes. So, um, when you go to a funeral home, according to the federal trade commission,
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you're supposed to be given a price list. If you inquire about any sort of services, um, this is
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any funeral home anywhere. So. What, what percentage of people would you say opt for the embalming?
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Um, where I work at and also in Indiana. So Indiana is a little more traditional. Um, so a lot more
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people want full funerals, even if they can't necessarily afford it. Um, so I'd say it's 60%
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cremation, probably 40% full traditional embalming open casket funeral burial. I see. Okay. And then,
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uh, there's obviously, I'm assuming the price varies because people could have like an injury,
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you know? Not, oh, for embalming the price varies. Well, like, I don't know if there was a,
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like half the face is missing or. Um, we typically won't charge for extra restoration and really funeral
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homes aren't supposed to charge for if someone has a disease or something like you couldn't charge
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extra for COVID. You couldn't charge extra if they have AIDS. Um, now the only, like where I work at,
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if someone passes away and they want to view their unembalmed loved one before they're cremated,
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for example, um, if they're autopsied, there is a lot of work that goes into autopsy restorations.
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So, um, we do charge extra for that. Got it. Okay. What about you? Um, my name is Marsha. I'm 23.
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I make music. Um, I create a direct, I style a little bit and then I model on the side.
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All right. Where are you from LA and, uh, education, any college? Um, I went to college for a little bit
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for, um, I like tried it out for a semester, but it wasn't for me. It was too slow and I,
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yeah. Um, I like, I like learning. I like, I think I'm very smart, but like, like the way college
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works and like the, like I wanted to take class, the certain classes I wanted to take, I had to take
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like, like a bunch of other classes before that to be able to take that. And it's just like a waste
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of time to me to just be taking like classes that I don't really don't want it. Yeah. Let me just have
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you tilt your mic down a little bit. What about you? For you? Oh, um, my name's Iris. I am 25.
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My occupation, I model. And as far as schooling, I have done it on and off. So I don't have a degree
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yet. All right. Uh, where are you from? Oh, sorry. Galveston, Texas. You're from Texas.
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Yes. Okay. Did you move here to California or just visiting? No, I was, um, staying in Nevada
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for about half a year. Okay. And you said you were in school. What were you studying?
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I started with accounting, but then I was like, oh, it's a little too much. So I switched to online
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culinary, which was actually really cool because I didn't think that you could take cooking classes
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online. Right. But, um, yeah. And I'm still sort of in that it's a take at your own pace
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type of deal. So pretty cool. I like it. All right. What about you? Hi, I'm Sina. I'm 19 and
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I'm an influencer. I'm currently in school for engineering and I'm from Canada. What, what
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part of Canada? Toronto. Toronto. Why do you say that? Like you're disappointed? Cause I don't,
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Toronto. Okay. And, uh, you're an influencer. Can you be more specific? No. Why not? I'm an
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influencer. Uh, okay. So you do like OF? Yeah. Okay. And you influence? Yeah. You do food,
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eating videos? Yes. Stuff like that? Yeah. Okay, cool. All right. What about you? Hi, my name
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is Stephanie. I am from LA, specifically the San Fernando Valley. I'm 31 years old. I went
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to school for accounting and I dropped out the semester I was applying for graduation.
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And now, um, I've worked like all different kinds of jobs, but, um, I like to just gain
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experience and I do freelance accounting and work in property management. And you said you
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dropped out of college? Yes. The semester I was applying for graduation. And what, what were
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you studying? Accounting. Oh, accounting. Gotcha. Okay. All right. What about you? Hi everyone. My
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name is Kelsey. I just turned the big 30 this year and I am from Southern Indiana. I am a small
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business owner. My products have been featured on QVC and my town that kind of jokingly have called me
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the female version of Willy Wonka because we do deal with chocolates. Um, three generations of
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family making chocolates. Um, and for schooling, I received my associates in business administration
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back in 2016. I wanted to continue my education and go to IU school of Kelly, which one of the top
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10 business schools in the nation. And I walked in there all excited and they're like, yeah, that's
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great. But if you want to be an entrepreneur, we're going to teach theory. So you can actually save your
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money and we encourage you to go and start your own business and just put that in for equity,
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which I really appreciate at that time, you know, cause there's always a bad vibe with like,
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oh, admissions just want your money. But I was appreciated the thoughtfulness. So I went ahead
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and did that with the company. Now I'm back in school and I should be wrapping up. This is my final
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semester. Get my bachelor's in business management from Western Governors University. And I did forget to
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mention my favorite job that I have. I'm a domestic engineer, AKA a mom to a beautiful six year old
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girl. And she's my pride and joy. All right. You said there's two kids or one kid or one, one kid.
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Okay. Got it. And how old is she? She's six. Six. Okay. Got it. All right. Um, I'm Felicity 19 from
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Santa Barbara and school for business and I'm Brian's bodyguard. It's true. And if you get feisty
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here, she'll, uh, what, what's the thing about the chocolate? You said like your family makes
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chocolate. Yeah. So, um, at this moment we're working on mass marketing. Yeah. Mass market. So
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we've actually won a couple of national awards. Um, you're not going to currently find us out on the
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market right now because everything has been taken apart. Um, we're no longer manufacturing
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ourselves. We're looking at co-packing because, uh, fun fact, we actually got approached for a
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broker dealership in Canada and, uh, we just knew that we couldn't produce the amount needed in our
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facility. So it was cheaper to go the route with co-packing. So that's still in the works. It takes
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a lot of time. These, these, um, contracts do not happen overnight, but we are looking at it and,
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uh, hopefully excited to possibly get back on QVC here soon. All right. Very cool. We're
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going to go around the table once more. What's your current relationship status? If you're single,
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how long have you been single and longest relationship you've ever been in? Go ahead.
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Um, so I just got out of my longest relationship like three days ago. Um, so I've been single for
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three days and we were together for two years. Okay. Single for three days.
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Uh, together for three years. No, two years. Oh, two years. Was that your longest relationship?
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Yes. Okay. And two years single for three days. Uh, who broke up with who? Pretty fresh.
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Um, I broke up with him for like the fifth time. Fifth time. Yeah. So it was on again,
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off again. I guess you could say that. Yeah. What is that? I'm sorry. Hold on. What is that smell?
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Oh, is that from outside? Okay. Yeah. It's insane. Sorry. There's like a, no, it's like,
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yeah, like food. There's like the most pungent garlic smell. It's like, no, it's fine. You can
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leave it open. You can leave it open. My apologies. Um, okay. So you broke, you broke up with the guy
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five times. Did he ever break up with you? No. Okay. So it was on again, off again. Uh,
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what would be the typical reason for one of the breakups or whatever? Um, I guess like
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I needed him and I need him to be more of a man, more of a man. Yes. And like,
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was he trans or no, he just was not doing the, like, why am I taking care of things that you should
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be taken care of type of situations? And it's just like, I'm no one's mom. I'm no one's life
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guider. Like I'm here to add happiness to your life, not like make or break your happiness. And
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I don't know. I just felt like I was being sucked of all my life and energy, putting it into someone
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that was not giving me that in return at all. Okay. You said that, uh, he wasn't doing the
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things he should be. What, what are those things? Um, basically just like basic romance. Like there
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was no romance and it was just very lazy. And I was planning everything, doing all of these things,
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paying for certain things when it's like, I'm again, no one's mother and it should be equal.
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If not, he should be doing more because like, hello. What, yeah. What are the things he should
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have been doing? It's small things, honestly, but I should not be planning all the dinners. I should
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not be like, it was just our two years and nothing was planned. And I was asking him like, let's go out
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to dinner. Let's do something. I got him a gifts, you know? And then he just like, was like, oh yeah,
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yeah. Okay. Oh yeah. Yeah. Okay. I was staying with him for like a week because he was going out of town
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for a while. And like, we had multiple days to do something for our two years and nothing was done.
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And it's just kind of like, why, why am I continuing to stay with someone that's making me sad
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when a thousand other people would do what they're not doing? Like I'm wasting my time and I need
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someone who loves as hard as I do at the end of the day. And that just wasn't happening.
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And, um, you said you felt like you were being a mom. Like, so what were the things that you were
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doing that was mom-like? Um, I was teaching him how to do like, well, first of all, he's a Nepo baby.
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So that right there, you know, he didn't know how to do a lot of things on his own or taking like
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initiative. And there's not a lot of like leadership skills going on. And I just felt like I was
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just kind of like the more of the adult in the relationship. And I need a man that's going to
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like take charge and take leadership and like be a man and not just depend on me for everything.
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You know, if anything, it should be equal, but I am no one's like mother. So for me to be like,
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making sure you have this, making sure like, did you do this for yourself? Did you schedule
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this appointment? Can you cook? Can you clean up? Can you do your own laundry? Like these are
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things just as an adult that you should be able to do. And I should not be the one teaching you how
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to do it because I'm not your mom. You said he was a Nepo baby. How so? He's a Nepo baby. Like
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he. Like a trust fund baby? No, his dad is an actor. Famous actor? Yeah. Who? No, I can't say that.
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What movie? Can you tell us the movie? I can't say that. No. All right. Okay. So he's also in the
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film industry then. Okay. Was he working in the industry? He could have been. But like I said,
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there's no initiative. I mean, to be a Nepo baby, you need to derive some certain benefits in said
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industry. If he wasn't working in the industry. Yeah. I mean, he's, he's about to work on a movie
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right now. No, he's a director. Your ex-boyfriend. Director? How old is he? He's 23. So he's just
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getting started, but it's like, also you're, you have this nepotism and like all of these resources
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at your hands and nothing's getting done. And that just shows right there, like leadership
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or like initiative. Like I need more fire under. White guy? No. Black guy? Mm-hmm. Stop trying to
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figure out. My chat's going to figure it out from there. All right, chat. So dad's a famous, dad's a
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famous actor. He's 23. He wants, he's trying to be a director or whatever. He's black. I'm assuming
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the dad's black. I don't, I mean, I could, maybe the dad's something. I don't know. Who knows? She
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didn't reveal this. Denzel Washington? No. Okay. Uh, okay. So, all right. He was a Nepo baby, I guess.
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Um, are you, but you know, look, you've only been broken up for three days. You guys have already
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broken up five times. I want to give it a good 77.7% chance that you guys are going to get back
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together. I don't think so because I, I need to go travel the world and I need to like, um, well,
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first of all, me and my, all my friends, uh, we're going to basically be going on like a world tour
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because we have our friend group and we're about to launch like our friend group and like a whole
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brand. And so we're planning on going to London, which one of our friends lives in right now,
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Barcelona, Jamaica, uh, Costa Rica. My family has like an Island there. So we're going there
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just like a lot of places that I feel like I need to see. And I just also need to stop being sad.
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And I felt like me being in that relationship, I was sad all the time. And like my friends set the
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standard for me and my friends treat me amazing and give me like all the love that I need and they
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never make me sad. So I just, I'm just, you know, tired of being sad and I'm going to go travel the
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world. All right. Uh, okay. Maybe we'll dive more into that after we get through everybody's, uh,
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introduction. Was there any infidelity either on his part or yours?
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Um, I have, I'm currently engaged, um, and since December and then, um, I've been in my relationship
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with my fiance since 2017, I guess that's eight years. Um, and, um, that's been my longest
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relationship as well. And then prior to that, I think I had a relationship for about three or four
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years. So, um, but I really love my fiance and I'm very excited. So how long have you guys been
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engaged? Um, since December, November, it was kind of informal. So did you propose?
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No, no. Um, my fiance did. I was actually very surprised. Um, he was not, he's been married
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before. Um, and he wasn't, when we got together, he wasn't keen on the idea of getting married.
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Um, just cause it didn't go well the first time around. Um, so I was just kind of, I'm,
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I'm pretty laid back. I feel like, you know, I'm kind of along for the ride of life. Um, so
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I wasn't hot to push him to do that and he just brought it up and I was like, whoa. And I was
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very excited. So, um, and so part of my Christmas present last year is we picked out my ring together
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and, um, is really nice. And, um, we don't have a date set or anything. Truthfully, I'm much more
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excited about planning my funeral than my wedding. So I, um, haven't given my wedding as much thought.
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So are you, are you, uh, like planning to? No, no, no. It's just, you know, we're all going to die
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at some point. So the sooner you think about it and get it open, please get your pre-arrangements
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done, the better and the easier it is on your family. So I, um, you know, and also I know some
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women love to be bride Zillas and make the wedding about them, but I'm very much 50, 50. So it's just
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as much my fiance as it is me. And so, um, it's not my wedding, but, um, you know, my funeral is
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all about me. So I'm excited about that. Okay, cool. What about you? Um, I just got out of a
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relationship like, um, two months ago. Okay. Who broke up with who? Um, it was, it was kind of,
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it was me, but it was, it was mutual. I was dating my best friend, um, for like the past year.
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Um, yeah, it was my first girl on girl relationship. So I've dated men all my life and then I dated
00:25:24.120
a woman. How long was the relationship? You said it was one year. Is that your longest relationship?
00:25:29.560
No. Longest relationship? Three years. Three years. Okay. Uh, were you on and off again with
00:25:35.660
the girl? No. Okay. So it was straight for a year. Well, not straight, but you get what
00:25:43.880
I mean. Do you have a grill? What are those? No, but I was going to wear my grill. It's so funny.
00:25:47.960
Oh, you should have worn the grill. I know I have it. I should go put it on. I just forgot.
00:25:51.420
Can we deliver it to you at the table? Please. Please. All right. Give her the, get her the
00:25:55.400
grill. My grill is in my purse. It's the silver purse. Get her the grill. Anybody else have a grill
00:25:58.620
that you? Yes. I was going to wear it. We actually should include like have a grill
00:26:03.920
policy. You have to wear the grill. You do. Does it impact how you speak though? No. It
00:26:08.940
does not. Oh yeah, get her the grill. It does not. You have a grill too? I do, but it makes
00:26:13.300
me have a lisp a little bit. A bit of a lisp? Yeah. Okay. Have you guys seen that Trump
00:26:18.460
photo with the grill? No. Nick, go to Discord. I posted it. It's in the, I'm pretty sure I
00:26:24.300
posted it in the memes. Is it in the memes tab? Nick, pull that up. Memes. Resources memes.
00:26:32.940
It's got a little box. Look at that. Yeah. Just a little box. Too cute. Yeah, just do it
00:26:39.480
now. Okay. Right corner. Double click. Up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up,
00:26:46.120
up, up, up, up, up. Device. Just scroll through them. It's fine. Just do four. No, no, no.
00:26:54.640
Okay. Two. There it is. I have one. Switch it to the video tab. We might have to do it there
00:27:00.080
too. Put it in my pocket. No, no, no. Yeah. I literally like, I have to have. All right,
00:27:05.580
show us the grill. Oh, it's just on the bottom. Yeah. Oh, okay. I thought
00:27:09.460
I saw it. Hold on. Thank you. Okay. Hers is the top grill. It's a gold grill too? It's
00:27:16.380
a gold grill, yeah. You can't. Isn't it? What's the grill supposed to be? Or what's
00:27:21.480
not supposed to be, but what's the most common? Gold. Gold. Grills are gold? Yes. What?
00:27:27.960
No. They're like silver, gold, like titanium or gold. No, so when you see grills that are
00:27:32.460
like a hella white and those are diamond grills, like those are. Yes, diamond grills. Yes, that's,
00:27:37.460
that's, that's, yeah, that's like the next step, but this is like the first step.
00:27:42.200
That's like diamond money. You know how much diamond costs? Brian had high expectations.
00:27:48.280
Yeah, I thought it was going to be. Gold's a softer metal, right? Isn't that why? Yeah. Okay.
00:27:52.640
Okay. That's cool. So, okay. You got the grill. You just broke up with your, I guess now,
00:27:58.340
well now ex-girlfriend. Are you going, but you think you're going to go back to a, to
00:28:04.580
men now or what do you think? I'm, it's not going back. I like both. So whatever catches
00:28:09.260
my eye. Okay. Yeah. And do you have a, like a preference at all? Like you lean more so towards
00:28:16.360
men or? No, I definitely think it's based off like personality and qualities because I'm
00:28:21.640
very much attracted to somebody's mind and mindset over anything else. Sweet. Uh, all right. What
00:28:29.260
about you? I'm single. All right. How long you been single? Probably about, it's been a couple
00:28:38.440
of weeks now. I'll just say it's been a couple of weeks and my longest relationship was like
00:28:45.560
six years. Okay. Uh, we have a super chat here from Caligula 200. Why chair one? Not, not
00:28:55.080
work at BK and get paid for her children. Wait, what? Burger King? Wait, you don't have
00:29:03.000
kids. Wait, I'm confused. Do you have kids? No. Chair one? Why not work at Burger King?
00:29:10.480
BK. Oh, wait. Doesn't make sense. Oh, wait. Hold on. Well, thank you. Caligula. Caligula.
00:29:23.320
Oh my God. Thank you for the super chat. Hide that for a moment.
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Sib donated $200. Yo, Sib. Thank you. Can I take a guess at chair one's X, Sean Wayans?
00:29:33.680
Sib. I feel like that your reaction was kind of a giveaway. Uh oh. No, actually. It's not
00:29:45.100
Sean. Who the fuck is that guy? I'm sorry. Who the fuck is that guy? But why did you gasp?
00:29:50.040
Because it's, it's, it's like in that area, but you're not helping her cause. Yo, Sib,
00:29:56.720
thank you for the 200. Uh, you can pull the membership and really quick since we're over here. Thank
00:30:03.180
you, Natty, for the membership. Kelly donated, or no, you love the podcast. We appreciate you.
00:30:08.180
You bought a hoodie, shop.whatever.com. So guys, if you buy some merch, we'll give you guys a shout
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00:30:19.440
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00:30:26.160
single for four weeks. Longest relationship. Six years. All right. How long was the one that
00:30:33.160
ended a week ago? Six months. Six months. Okay. Who broke, who broke up with who? Most recent one?
00:30:40.980
Um, you know what? We'll give it to him. He broke up with me. Did you cheat on him? Nope. Okay. The
00:30:48.720
six year one, who broke up with who? Um, that actually ended amicably. It was mutual. Okay. All right.
00:30:55.140
What about you? I'm single. I've been single for one year and my longest was two years. All right.
00:31:02.560
What about you? I'm single for about two years now. And my longest relationship was three years.
00:31:10.760
Uh, sorry. Can you repeat that? I'm single. Um, my longest relationship was for three years
00:31:17.140
and I've been single for the last two years. All right. The one that ended two years ago,
00:31:24.040
was that the three year one? Yes. Who broke up with who? I broke up with him. Why is that?
00:31:28.160
Um, I broke up with him because of a message and phone call I found in his phone.
00:31:37.360
Nice. Good times. Good times. Um, so he was cheating on you essentially. There was no hardcore
00:31:45.640
evidence, but it was enough for me to decide what I didn't want in my future. Okay. Got it. What about
00:31:53.360
you? Met my ex-husband in 2017, married in 2018, and he decided to walk away in 21. And, uh, we divorced
00:32:06.640
last October, sorry, last October. So it'll be a year next month and been single. That was my one and only
00:32:14.260
no other dates, no nothing before or after him. Just my one man. And you guys, uh, were married for
00:32:23.500
how long? Four years? So we married in 2018 until 2024. So what is that? Is that six years?
00:32:30.960
But when did you separate? Uh, separated in 21. 21. Okay. So separated, but still legally married.
00:32:39.740
Three years to get divorced. Were you, um, was there any sort of rekindling between the separation
00:32:47.960
and the divorce or was it a hundred percent off from the point of separation? I think that at the
00:32:53.920
beginning there was this, um, kind of up and down where it's like, no, I want you, but I want my
00:33:01.420
own life, my, my freedom, do what I want. And then there was, well, I'm still holding on because
00:33:08.520
sometimes people, I've heard stories from others and people getting back together where it's like,
00:33:13.640
sometimes you have to go experience, is the grass really greener on the other side or not?
00:33:18.160
While you're out doing that, I'll pray for you. I'm holding down the fort and I'm raising our
00:33:22.180
daughter. And, um, things reveal themselves over time. I didn't have to, you know, hire a private
00:33:28.600
detective or anything. It's just like, you let things run its course. Everything will be revealed in
00:33:33.700
time. And if not, that's okay too. You don't need a why behind everything. And so it, it came to the
00:33:41.060
point where, uh, we had a phone call and he informed me where he stood in 2023. And then in 2024, the
00:33:49.180
divorce was finalized. Okay. Uh, how long were you dating before you were married? So let's see here,
00:33:57.000
2017, uh, beginning part, like, see, we met in February, got engaged, um, near the end of August,
00:34:07.540
had a really cute beach profile. So like the moonlight, everything, it was so adorable heart
00:34:12.680
in the sand with little rose petals and seashells, uh, married June of 2018. So we'd been together for
00:34:20.140
a little over a year and a half before we got married. I see. Okay. Uh, and you initiated the
00:34:27.660
divorce? No, he, he did. Well, let me, let me pause here. The legal separation that was from me
00:34:37.220
and then the divorce, um, he tried to go and file a divorce in a different County, but because legal
00:34:44.600
separation was in motion, it needs to be done in the same County that it's initiated. Um,
00:34:50.000
so when the lawyer called me and said, Hey, did you know this happened? I said, no, I didn't. He
00:34:54.940
said, well, what do you want to do? And I just paused for a second. Then I said, let's give him
00:35:00.400
what he wants. That's his action. That's what he's saying. So we're going to go that route. So
00:35:06.720
then it got turned into a dissolution of marriage. Okay. Got it. And, uh,
00:35:12.920
what, uh, briefly, if you can, what, what precipitated the breakup of the relationship?
00:35:23.400
That's a good question. And some of the things I don't honestly have an answer to, I'm,
00:35:28.780
I'm still in, I don't know, but I have heard yourself and Andrew and other men, um, say on
00:35:37.380
podcasts and just in my personal life, men are simple when they say what it is that's
00:35:43.140
on their mind, they say it, they mean it. So I have to go based on his wording and his
00:35:49.020
words to me that I know regarding our situation was, um, everyone else is living my life for
00:35:56.180
me. I want my freedom. And then as it progressed, um, through the years, it ended up with, um,
00:36:03.940
him just saying we were never really married and I'm never, ever coming back. So I think
00:36:11.880
just in saying that without indulging too much, I mean, those were the words said and I have to
00:36:19.440
take him at his word for it. Um, and based off of your notes, I, if I recall, he was the first guy
00:36:27.460
you were ever with. Yep. Okay. That was my one and only. When did you guys meet? At what age? How old
00:36:32.760
were you? Oh, goodness. Let's see. 2017. So I was 22, 23, uh, 21 going to turn 22. Okay. Gotcha. Um,
00:36:46.620
and so he, he, he cheated on you. Is that correct? There, there was infidelity involved. Okay. And
00:36:56.940
my, my, my question, um, he was the first guy you were ever with, correct? You ever dated? Nope.
00:37:04.600
What's that? Nope. Or wait, no, no, never dated prior. Like I dated him. Yes. Obviously I did not
00:37:13.900
go out on a date with other men and I haven't been on a date since our divorce, but before him,
00:37:20.240
you didn't even date. No, no, as in that's correct. Or no, no. Okay. Yes, that's correct. I'm sorry,
00:37:28.960
Brian. Okay. Yes. I did not go on dates. Okay. So you, you, when you got married, you were a virgin.
00:37:35.480
Yes. Okay. Gotcha. And you've been divorced or separated for a little bit. Uh, have you been on
00:37:43.660
any dates since? Nope. No, no dates? No dates. No. Dating apps? Anything like that? Nope. Nope. No one's
00:37:50.640
asked me out on a date, Brian. Oh, can you believe it? I'm kidding. I'm, I'm kidding. Uh, and so
00:37:57.580
are you, uh, you're Christian, right? Yes. What denomination? Non-denominational. Anybody else
00:38:04.960
who are a Christian? Yes. You're a Christian? Yes. Okay. Are you Christian? You're wearing a cross,
00:38:10.200
so. Oh, I need this for protection for my last relationship. I grew up in the church. Yes.
00:38:19.960
But baby, I was going through hell. I'm sorry to say it, but.
00:38:23.140
Run, please run, we run. Okay. All right. And, um, so just, uh, you and her. Okay. Nobody else
00:38:34.500
Christian. What's your denomination? Catholic. Catholic. Okay. Um, all right.
00:38:39.980
So as far as like future dating for you, are you, um, are you waiting and you're going
00:38:50.120
to wait until marriage for the next guy or what are you thinking? I'm sorry, Brian, can
00:38:53.640
you repeat that again? I, I didn't hear you. Are you going to be waiting until marriage,
00:38:57.560
uh, for the next guy? Oh, absolutely. Okay. Gotcha. To, for carnal knowledge, you're what,
00:39:06.700
you're going to wait. Uh, I'm going to wait to have coitus and coitus. Yes. If, if, if I get
00:39:13.860
married again, you know, obviously there has to be someone, um, who just says, you know
00:39:18.780
what? I, I want to do life with you and I'm all in. Okay. All right. Felicity, what about
00:39:24.300
you? Single for a few months now. Longest relationship was two years. All right. Rock and roll. Thank you
00:39:31.920
everybody for sharing your relationship status. We're going to dive into the, uh, some of the
00:39:37.660
pre-show notes here that we have starting with you. Okay. Uh, you had some criticisms for the show
00:39:45.680
for me. I'm happy to dive into them. Uh, let me just get those pulled up here and we'll kind of go
00:39:51.960
one by one. So, uh, you say that I have some rather negative views on feminism and that's a
00:40:01.860
shame. You believe there's many aspects of feminism that help men as well. You say that I tend to book
00:40:07.780
largely one type of woman that can make all women a certain way, even though that's one small
00:40:12.980
subsection of the female population. You have been getting better though. I'm not sure if this is to
00:40:17.980
make women look bad or he simply enjoys talking to women who are OnlyFans models. Uh, okay. A couple
00:40:25.720
different things there. I'll just, the easiest one to dispel would be the OnlyFans thing. So, uh, who
00:40:31.680
here has OnlyFans? Anybody here a sex worker? Nope. Okay. Anybody a strip ever been a stripper? Nope.
00:40:39.500
Oh, well, damn it. I've danced before. You, you stripped? For like a year and a half. Nope. When? Um,
00:40:47.220
it was years ago. Like when you're in early, cause you're 31, right? So like early twenties? Uh,
00:40:53.340
like mid twenties. Okay. Did you, what's the term? Isn't that what, that's what guys do? Yeah. Uh,
00:41:01.100
were you, uh, were you, what, what's the fucking other term for it? Whatever. Uh, any escorting,
00:41:09.820
anything like that? Uh, no. So I was very strict on, um, like it was about the dancing. Um, and I saw
00:41:19.680
that it was an environment where the majority of the women were kind of like looking for a jackpot,
00:41:25.280
um, to kind of get money spent on them by like one person. Um, ultimately I don't think like it was
00:41:32.840
an environment where I personally was comfortable. I didn't see myself making friends. I didn't really
00:41:37.400
see myself making the connections I wanted in my life. So how long were you dancing for a year?
00:41:42.500
Okay. So it's just seeing a year at the table. All right. So, I mean, uh, this is a criticism we
00:41:48.600
often get. Oh, Brian, you bring on like X type of woman. You bring on these like sex workers,
00:41:54.420
only fans, girls. We've done the, we've looked at the statistics for, you know, thorough statistics
00:42:00.280
of who we bring on. It's like 15% of all the guests we've ever had have done OF. Uh, and then
00:42:07.320
for example, on this panel, I mean, the currently only active OF girl is over there. So, um, yeah,
00:42:16.540
your newer episodes are getting a lot more different people. I like that.
00:42:20.120
It's varied. It's varied. Yes. Sure. There's been some episodes where it's like almost all
00:42:25.000
the girls do OF and then there's episodes where none of the people on the panel do OF. So it varies
00:42:30.080
from show to show, but overall the average of the guests we have on, it's like 15% if you were to
00:42:37.940
average it out. So I kind of reject this criticism. Most of our guests don't do only fans. Um, and the
00:42:46.480
thing is it's an open invitation for pretty much anyone. One, oftentimes people will levy this
00:42:52.220
criticism of the show and say, Oh, Brian, you should bring on smart women parentheses like me.
00:42:59.760
I would run circles around you, blah, blah, blah. And instead of, you know, talking shit back or
00:43:04.760
whatever, we almost always will politely, um, will politely offer them an invitation.
00:43:13.280
Almost 99% of the time, people who make any criticisms of our guest selection are complete
00:43:19.700
cowards. And despite a polite invitation, they almost always, uh, are all bark and no bite.
00:43:29.020
So, um, ultimately I would just say we've had plenty of smart, intelligent women on the show.
00:43:36.360
So any, anybody is welcome to come on the show, but oftentimes people talk a big game online,
00:43:45.480
but when we actually extend that invitation, that challenge for them to step up, they, they're
00:43:51.820
cowards. So I don't know if that thoroughly addresses your point or if you have anything
00:43:58.380
Uh, no, I think, yeah, you kind of said your piece about the only fans models and I do agree.
00:44:05.520
You're getting a lot more different people on here. Um, I think the only other thing I forgot
00:44:11.480
in my list of criticisms was sometimes I feel like, cause this is a dating podcast and kind
00:44:16.820
of talking about how stressful it is for people, especially men to find someone to date, especially
00:44:23.120
with dating apps. And I, I'm glad I never had to do Tinder cause it's all looks based. But, um,
00:44:29.020
I feel like sometimes instead of getting to the root of the problem or having meaningful
00:44:33.460
discussions, sometimes it turns a little rage baby, which is good for viewership. Cause that's
00:44:38.100
actually how I discovered the show. Um, uh, YouTube algorithm loves this podcast. I get it recommended
00:44:44.120
to me a lot. And then I also think my fiance, he loves YouTube shorts and they get on his a lot.
00:44:50.680
And then I saw him like, what is this? So, um, that's how I kind of discovered the show. But,
00:44:55.140
um, I, you know, people who always have different views and I, you can't change someone's mind if
00:45:01.020
they're very set in our ways, but I think we can have meaningful discussions and not have to
00:45:06.720
make fun of people or. Yeah. Get to the actual criticism though. So what's the rage babe?
00:45:12.740
Well, some of the videos and shorts I've seen, it's been making fun of, and then they usually have
00:45:18.180
titles like libtard feminist gets destroyed or, um, I don't think we use the term libtard,
00:45:25.320
but yeah, sure. We use destroy. Yeah. Charlie Kirk destroys, uh, you know, Gen Z feminist.
00:45:31.800
Rage baby titles or just, um, there's clips where people. Let's just define our terms here. What's
00:45:37.180
rage bait? It's kind of stooping to a look. It's not addressing your debate opponent as like a person
00:45:46.920
that might be of equal measure and being able to see them as a person. You're just like, ah, look at
00:45:53.060
that liberal over there. I humiliated them. And I think, hold on there, there is a bit of a
00:45:59.580
differentiation we can make here. So there's the way a clip is titled after the fact, but then when
00:46:04.700
you're actually sitting there in person, I don't think there's any, at least to that degree, any sort
00:46:09.620
of dehumanization. Obviously you're trying to make compelling titles that are interesting, that'll make
00:46:14.560
people want to watch them, but I don't think I wouldn't categorize them as clickbait. And so far
00:46:19.080
as they accurately describe what is actually incur occurring in the clip. So if you want to call
00:46:25.040
that clickbait or rage bait or whatever, if it is the case from my perspective, and seems like a lot
00:46:31.240
of people agree with the clips, if it is the case that Andrew Wilson, Charlie Kirk, Brian Atlas,
00:46:36.120
Michael Knowles, Candace Owens destroys, uh, raging feminist liberal woman. And that's what happens in the
00:46:42.640
clip. I don't really think that that's necessarily rage bait or clickbait, but, um, in any case,
00:46:49.140
typically when the person's at the table, we're not being particularly, uh, typically not being
00:46:54.840
particularly, uh, what's the term for it? Um, aggro towards them, I guess. I mean, I usually just match
00:47:02.820
energy, but, uh, again, I'm, what is rage baiting about it? I guess. Well, it's not just that, like
00:47:10.320
differences of opinions, but like, for example, and one thing I think that's bothered me about
00:47:15.140
this particular podcast, is it going into physical appearances? And I understand some of your...
00:47:21.180
Wait, wait, wait, but I, I have that in the notes. I'm happy to dive into that, but I want to get to
00:47:28.060
that. I'll get to that one later, but I'm still trying to get the, what is the rage bait thing?
00:47:33.060
Well, that's kind of was my segue, but just the, uh, we'll get, we'll get to that. I'll bring it back
00:47:39.200
to, to this though. You said that Brian has some rather negative views on feminism and that's a
00:47:44.920
shame. Uh, you said that there's many aspects of feminism that help men as well. So what are my
00:47:51.620
negative views on feminism? Well, uh, you don't seem to like the idea and it's not just you,
00:47:59.060
it's Andrew. Um, well, he's not here. So I know, but one of the things Andrew likes to say is women
00:48:04.600
shouldn't vote. And, you know, I think that really goes back on the history of suffragettes here in
00:48:09.540
the U S like Maywright, Sue all caddy Stanton. And I just, you know, I mean, it's rage baby. I mean,
00:48:16.660
I don't think a whole group of people should lose their constitutional right to vote just because he
00:48:22.320
doesn't like that women can vote. He thinks it's ruining the country. And that's just kind of rage
00:48:26.780
baity. Cause I think the majority of people you ask, like I live in Indiana, it's pretty
00:48:31.100
conservative. My dad's very conservative Catholic. If you ask my dad, Hey, you think your daughter
00:48:36.180
should lose her ability to vote? Cause women make bad decisions. He'd be like, no. And I think a lot
00:48:41.780
of conservatives are more, hold on, wait, hold on. That's not really a compelling, very compelling
00:48:46.160
argument. If I ask my father X, like that wouldn't be a really strong basis or foundation
00:48:52.580
for argumentation. Like, for example, like if I were to say, well, my dad says like,
00:48:57.200
we should just like, uh, you know, nuke the entire planet. Like that's not a good foundation
00:49:02.100
for argumentation. Let me quickly address this. So Andrew's position on, I have a different position
00:49:07.040
than Andrew. Andrew's not here. So I don't think that, uh, I don't share that position. Like I'm,
00:49:13.780
I'm mostly fine with women voting. I am fine with it. Let me preface it. Let me frame this better.
00:49:20.980
Please. I have criticisms of the female vote insofar as this women were able to secure.
00:49:29.340
So women should maintain the vote. But what I'm saying is women should, should have the corresponding
00:49:37.120
duties that men have. So, uh, feminists were able to secure the vote for women without the corresponding
00:49:42.140
duties that men had, uh, had to carry for them to get to the vote. So that'd be
00:49:50.580
forced military conscription. Women for a hundred plus years have had the right to vote without any
00:49:56.260
duty to this country. Women have no duties to this country. Men have duties. That's an inequality.
00:50:02.020
I'm not saying we should take away women's right to vote. I'm saying we need to equalize
00:50:05.400
the duties that men and women have to this country. I'll let you guys come in in just a sec.
00:50:10.060
So yes, I'm fine. I don't think we should repeal the 19th. What I would like to see though,
00:50:14.460
is a equality of duty between men and women. As far as Andrew's position is concerned,
00:50:20.200
he takes a bit hit. Look, I, I'm not here to defend Andrew's position. He's not here,
00:50:24.980
but my understanding of it is it's not simply like he thinks women suck and they shouldn't vote.
00:50:29.940
He's just saying almost my position. Well, women don't have any duties. So why should they have the
00:50:36.680
right to send men to war to die when they would never be forced to be in that position?
00:50:41.540
I don't think we should send people to war. I don't like men being conscripted.
00:50:46.500
Wow. There should never be murder and nobody should lie and nobody should cheat. These are
00:50:50.840
empty platitudes, but realistically, if we're, if we're operating in reality, I don't think there
00:50:55.960
should be, okay, there should just be world peace in perpetuity and nobody should ever have hurt
00:51:00.500
feelings ever. That's great. Realistically though, there's other countries that are belligerent to
00:51:05.780
the United States and one day it's conceivable we're going to be involved. I mean, well,
00:51:10.540
there are currently ongoing wars, not really with massive United States involvement,
00:51:15.620
but it's conceivable, even if you're a peaceable nation, a peaceable people that there's outside
00:51:21.540
nations and countries that are aggressive and belligerent and they want what you have and they
00:51:27.060
will forcefully take it. So even if you're a peaceable people, you need a, you need a defense.
00:51:32.040
You need to be able to be able to defend yourself with military. So there will always be, uh, there
00:51:38.820
will always be military. There'll always be war. Well, I don't mind there being a military. I'm
00:51:42.700
just saying the draft. I've met veterans both in Vietnam. And then I had a neighbor who fought in
00:51:47.160
world war two and they were drafted. And a lot of them, like my neighbor, he really did not want to
00:51:54.420
be part of the war. He had, he was in his eighties by the time I met him. So he had, uh, didn't really
00:52:01.240
want to talk about PTSD. That wasn't really something in his vocabulary, but he just, it gave
00:52:07.120
him a lot of trauma. And that's how I've talked to a lot of people who I've met like Vietnam who've
00:52:13.000
had a lot of PTSD from that, you know, they went against their will and don't think they got a lot
00:52:18.120
of compensation for that. You know, I've talked to a lot of veterans that they have trouble with the VA
00:52:23.580
for healthcare. Okay. So, and I just think that, you know, you shouldn't force people. You should,
00:52:29.920
there's a lot of people who do want to volunteer for the military and that's great, but you know,
00:52:34.940
I don't like the draft for people, especially kids like my neighbor who was in world war two,
00:52:40.940
he was like just turned 18. He was a kid from Indiana who hadn't really traveled outside the
00:52:45.980
state prior to that. And he got shipped off to Germany and that was really hard on him. I admire,
00:52:50.840
I thank him for his service, but he always told me the best day of his life was when he got out of
00:52:55.160
the army. Right. But so the question at hand isn't whether selective service, the draft forced military
00:53:01.660
conscription is right or wrong. The question is whether or not being forced to go to war should
00:53:09.040
be something that is gender neutral. So currently as it stands under law, only men are subject to forced
00:53:16.000
military conscription. It's 2025. Women have had the vote for over a hundred years. I think that
00:53:21.700
they should be subject to forced military conscription. If from, I mean, you would have to
00:53:27.580
agree given you're a feminist, uh, that this would be equality between men and women. You're shaking
00:53:34.880
your head. Why is that? Because we're not as strong as men are and we birth kids and we birth,
00:53:40.180
you don't give birth. Like that's something that we were given when we were born. Okay. That's what
00:53:46.220
we do. We birth. So that's a big thing that we do. We were born because of a woman. Like there,
00:53:50.860
you wouldn't be here without a woman. Right. But we don't, but biologically we don't share the same
00:53:56.160
traits and you know this because you've talked, you've talked about it before. So why would you send
00:54:02.000
a woman if men are stronger and are, and biologically stronger and not like, yeah, you're right. So that
00:54:09.240
makes sense. And then women have their part with giving birth and have, that's a huge thing we do
00:54:14.000
that men don't have to go through periods, being a woman in general. Who here, show of hands,
00:54:19.000
who here has kids? So just curious. I'm a nanny. Should every, that's great. So I take care of
00:54:24.620
kids all the time. So she has a child. Perhaps we can exempt her. Uh, but none of y'all have any
00:54:30.160
children and we have multiple, we have, uh, you're 32, you're 31. You don't have kids. Should we exempt
00:54:35.980
them from military conscription? Again, she's 30 and we're 23. Okay. You guys are military age. Why
00:54:41.880
you guys don't have kids. So our country would lose if women ran. Well, I disagree. I disagree.
00:54:49.860
Women can absolutely. Now I don't think women should be involved in frontline combat, but women
00:54:54.380
can be part of the war effort. For sure. And my understanding is in order to have one person
00:55:00.360
in direct combat. It takes 10 other soldiers or people in the military in like support roles
00:55:06.820
to be able to field one combat soldier. So you can be in the kitchen, in the military. You
00:55:12.160
can be doing administration work. You can be doing whatever the, the support roles. Women
00:55:17.340
are capable of doing those things. I just think it should be a choice for women.
00:55:20.040
Yeah. Why would it, why should it have to be a choice for the women? So if everyone just
00:55:23.720
goes into the military, then we're literally, who's going to have children and then we're going
00:55:28.800
to go extinct. Not everybody, but not all men would get drafted in wartime.
00:55:35.060
Right. But you're saying like women don't have duties. Our duties is to literally raise
00:55:40.540
civilization. You don't, but it's not a duty. It is. It's not a duty. Unless you want crackheads
00:55:45.340
running around motherless. Well, hold on. So it's not a, no, no, no. It's not a duty in the
00:55:50.100
same way that men have a duty. So for example, is there, and point me to actually any country
00:55:56.800
in the world where women can be forced by the government to have children, can women
00:56:05.300
in the United States be forced against their will to have children?
00:56:10.500
Well, I don't know what state, in what states this is where you get raped and you have to
00:56:15.460
keep your kid. But women do have to, yeah. In some states they do.
00:56:19.380
That's not a comparison. No, it is. No, because then the entailment would have to be that the
00:56:25.940
government forces women to be raped. That's how I read it. Because why would I have to keep a kid
00:56:32.300
that I got raped from? That makes no sense. Hold on. That wouldn't be forcing a rape. It'd be forcing
00:56:38.180
the birth of a kid from rape. But you're getting off of, you're completely off track here. We're not
00:56:43.560
having a conversation about abortion. We're having a conversation about the government forcing women
00:56:49.900
to have children. That would, the entailment there wouldn't be, well, you must rape.
00:56:54.720
You can't abort, so you're forced to have that child.
00:56:57.680
That's not a, that's kind of an incoherent comparison.
00:57:02.440
I don't think so. Are you saying in the way where if there was a war, the duty for men would be for
00:57:09.180
them to get drafted and the duty for women would be that they have to birth a child?
00:57:14.960
Well, what I'm saying is, you guys are saying women have duties and I'm saying they don't.
00:57:20.440
So the government can force you to go to war if it wants to. The government can, you guys are welcome
00:57:28.860
to look up these videos. You can see them in Ukraine. You have military police abducting men
00:57:34.940
in the streets, abducting them in the streets, throwing them in the van. And then they sent,
00:57:40.540
ship them off to get some military training. And then they go fight on the front.
00:57:45.980
There is no sort of corresponding, even in Ukraine, which is an inactive war, there's not some
00:57:50.800
corresponding duty on the women. Like, okay, uh, we're in it, the, uh, there's not like,
00:57:57.740
hmm, it's not even like roses and daisies even like there's, there's nothing that compels women
00:58:04.900
by duty to have children. There's nothing even war-torn Ukraine. I guess with the situation
00:58:11.920
you're offering, yes, I think women are as capable as men going military and being drafted. But
00:58:18.460
personally, I don't think anyone should be drafted. Well, okay, but governments and nations are not
00:58:26.680
going to relinquish their ability to call on its citizenry in the event of a military conflict.
00:58:33.320
So we can say, you know, there shouldn't be a draft, but like, I'm interested in looking at
00:58:39.380
what currently is. So what currently is the case is that in almost every single nation in the world,
00:58:46.580
there's male-only military conscription, male-only military draft. I think like Israel, I think has
00:58:54.000
drafts women, maybe there's like one other country. Otherwise it's all men, all men. But speaking
00:59:00.100
specifically about the USA, it's only men here. So you can, you can say, well, I don't think that
00:59:06.220
there should be a draft, but it, you know, I feel like we should end the military draft is this sort
00:59:15.080
of empty platitude. And it's, it's basically just a waste of time and energy that would better be
00:59:21.500
devoted to making it equal. I mean, wouldn't it, because the current thing in the U S right now is
00:59:27.260
women aren't being forced to be in the military. So couldn't you just use that same argument to say,
00:59:32.480
well, it's not a reality right now. So. Well, sure. It, it's plausible that you could relinquish
00:59:40.600
men in this country from the obligation to be drafted. However, pretty much at any moment,
00:59:47.460
even if for optics reasons that, you know, the United States government could say, you know what,
00:59:52.420
we're just doing away with the draft, but then the government can just in some like desperate time
00:59:58.200
of war can just be like, you know what, we're going to pass a law and bring the draft back.
01:00:03.280
Well, it'd be understandable if they did that to draft everyone, I suppose, but.
01:00:07.680
Well, legally though, as it stands, if there was a draft,
01:00:11.580
women would not be subject to it. And historically women have never been subject
01:00:18.240
to military conscription. Honestly, I think that we've come to a point where like there's trans
01:00:25.220
people and all of that. And I think that maybe everyone should just be like tested. And then if
01:00:33.040
you are capable and strong enough, you can pass like a physical test and then everyone can get
01:00:38.940
drafted because there's like muscle mommies, like there's very strong women that would be down to
01:00:44.740
do that. Like there's very masculine women. So like, I think it should be open to everyone. Everyone
01:00:50.200
should go through the same test. And if you are not physically capable of protecting this country,
01:00:59.840
Okay. The trans stuff, but going back to your thing, we should end the draft.
01:01:03.520
I just think this idea that we should end the draft is this sort of irrelevant red herring.
01:01:10.120
And we should, you're just, it's like, you're trying to shut down the discourse on gender equality.
01:01:15.960
We should just equalize it because again, nations and governments, the United States government will
01:01:22.340
not relinquish its right to have a military draft. It's conceivable in some sort of, you know,
01:01:29.320
who knows what kind of scenario in the future could desperately need people to be drafted for
01:01:36.380
the military. I mean, what's the alternative, right? So let's talk about the draft briefly.
01:01:40.700
I don't want to linger too long on the draft, but let me ask you this. What if we knew this is a
01:01:47.480
hypothetical scenario. Let's say China. We, we know with a foregone conclusion, we're predicting
01:01:53.880
in, I don't know, a couple of years, uh, or no, in a year, China's going to invade us. No offense.
01:02:02.880
Uh, sin. By the way, would you, if China invaded Canada, would you side with China or Canada?
01:02:14.580
Well, just privately. You wouldn't have to just, would you? Wow. You, you, yikes. Okay.
01:02:27.940
Wait, do you ever want to become an American, uh, citizen?
01:02:33.480
Because of the better taxes. Question. If you became an American citizen and China like invaded
01:02:38.520
the US, would you side with the US or China? China. Wait, but are you from China? No, I'm
01:02:47.220
from Canada. Is Wayne Brady going to have to choke a bitch? Uh, so anyways, um, wait, okay.
01:02:53.740
The, the, the draft, right? Shit. Yeah. What was I saying? Oh, China invades. China invades.
01:03:01.140
We have one year to prepare. Uh, and let's say this is a hypothetical China. If China wins
01:03:07.380
the war against us and they invade us, we know, we know because of our intelligence gathering
01:03:12.520
that their plan is because they view the United States populace as such a threat to the world's
01:03:19.460
order that they want to establish, that they're going to kill, they're going to kill all the
01:03:24.180
men and they're going to rape all the women. Do you think, and, and here's what else we know
01:03:30.120
in this hypothetical scenario, we know that comparing our current military's power, hypothetical,
01:03:37.580
right now our military is stronger than China, but in this hypothetical, we know that our military
01:03:42.260
isn't strong enough to beat China unless we draft the men, but some men don't want to go.
01:03:52.340
Do you think under this circumstance where we know that China is going to kill
01:03:56.140
most of the country, they're going to rape all the women under that circumstance, is it justified
01:04:02.140
to force men who otherwise wouldn't want to fight to, to fight? I think if it got critical
01:04:08.500
enough, eventually a draft may come in, but I don't think they'll do it initially. Additionally.
01:04:13.540
No, no, no. But in the hypothetical, it's granted that we have the intelligence that we know that,
01:04:18.700
okay, they're stronger than us. We need to draft the men because we just our assessment of our
01:04:24.640
military capabilities in this hypothetical scenario, they're stronger than us. But if we draft these
01:04:30.680
other men, we have a chance. But if we don't, we're just going to get wiped out. Should we draft
01:04:34.940
the men? Possibly though. Truthfully at looking at military information, um, and just reading about
01:04:41.780
kind of technology, they're developing the military. I don't know about other countries, but at least
01:04:46.320
the U S seems to be really going towards drones rather than sending people on the front lines.
01:04:50.840
It's a total red herring. It's a total red herring. I just realistically, as the future goes on,
01:04:55.320
I don't know of how much the labor. Okay. Well, maybe China's like developing some like insane
01:04:59.340
AI that's going to like completely wreck us too. So in the hypothetical scenario though,
01:05:04.320
it's already granted that China is stronger than us. So should we draft the men to prevent all the
01:05:12.180
women in the country from getting raped? Wouldn't this hypothetical situation be a red herring?
01:05:17.540
How is that? How would it be? It's testing your logic of like your, your disagreement with a draft
01:05:25.540
wholesale. Cause this is a very odd hypothetical situation that hasn't occurred anytime yet.
01:05:32.200
That's why it's called a hypothetical. Well, wouldn't using drones instead of people in the
01:05:36.520
future be a hypothetical? Hold on in any, hold on. You don't think that like, let's say this war
01:05:42.900
takes place in the next five years. You think drones are going to be the exclusive, uh, you know,
01:05:50.060
fighter in military conflicts? Well, for a lot of our enemy nations, I'm sure because they can't get
01:05:57.400
across the ocean as well as a drone. So in the hypothetical situation, it's going to be granted
01:06:02.380
that the, the Chinese Navy has the resources to put boots on the ground in the United States.
01:06:08.780
I mean, uh, with nuclear weapons, I mean, you could just nuke a place and not take care of most
01:06:15.360
of it. Yeah. Then it's just, okay. Now we're having a conversation, another red herring. Now
01:06:20.300
we're having a conversation about mutually assured destruction. Um, I also just, this is kind of what
01:06:26.480
I mean about rage bait. How is this rage bait? Because this has nothing to do with dating. I don't,
01:06:31.580
that's why I'm curious. It was your criticism. Well, it was about feminism, but feminism gets just
01:06:38.040
brought up a lot on this, but my point is it doesn't have as much to do. No, you brought up
01:06:43.140
the whole, uh, the, the voting thing. Yes. That was an example from what you asked me initially.
01:06:49.740
Right. But yeah, my point is, is you bring up like women versus men, feminism, patriarchy, but
01:06:57.920
does that have to do with your initial thing about dating? That's what this whole podcast is about is
01:07:03.940
sure. I think absolutely. It's all tied in. I think it's all tied in. Feminism is massively tied
01:07:10.420
into dating. It's had massive negative consequences on the dating landscape. I think if you're somebody
01:07:16.120
who's more inclined to more traditional gender roles, then yeah, massive, massive impact on the
01:07:22.820
dating landscape. And it's, it's all part of it. All part of it. Even the military draft,
01:07:27.960
even the draft, even the inequality that exists there, it's all baked in.
01:07:32.960
Hmm. I think everyone should just go through the same physical tests and the weak ones. No,
01:07:39.800
the strong ones. Yes. Thank you. Yeah, I suppose. Or if you want to do it, like have a test for like
01:07:45.780
people who, you know, will potentially face actual combat. And then you have all the pencil pushers and
01:07:51.620
the support roles and the, the admin that maybe you could like, you know, make the majority of those
01:07:56.900
women. Exactly. Sure. Problem solved. But again, this whole thing, this whole thing though, is
01:08:05.080
we're not going to get rid of the draft. So if, if the status quo is the draft won't be abandoned,
01:08:14.600
won't be gotten rid of, then surely for the sake of equality, like we have to operate under what is
01:08:20.000
the current system, right? So I think equality would then dictate that women, which should be subject to
01:08:24.900
military conscription. Okay. And so under that basis, I, what I see is an inequality that exists,
01:08:34.460
which privileges and benefits women and is to the disadvantage of men. Men are subject to forced
01:08:40.220
military conscription. And even in the United States, even if it's not wartime, if you fail to
01:08:45.220
register for the selective service as a man, there's a $250,000 fine. It's technically a felony.
01:08:49.920
You're barred from certain, uh, certain federal jobs. You can't get certain federal student loans.
01:08:55.460
Uh, I think there's, I'm trying to think if there's one or two other negative ramifications,
01:08:59.920
no student, federal student loans, no, um, barred from certain federal jobs, federal positions.
01:09:07.760
There might be one or two other things, but I pretty much went over the most, the bulk of it,
01:09:11.660
but, um, women should be subject to military conscription to, and that would be related to
01:09:18.680
equalizing women's voting rights, which are still aren't equal to the benefit of women.
01:09:25.040
So do you feel like this is also a class issue because men can get out of conscription if they
01:09:30.200
have enough money? In fact, some of our people in the highest levels of office got out of Vietnam
01:09:34.780
by doing that. Uh, well, I mean, I'm not really, that's not really a field that I'm expert in.
01:09:45.940
Um, cause I think just, I know feminism gets blamed for a lot of the ills men experience in
01:09:52.280
our society. Now, I think you mentioned on your podcast on Wednesday, a lot of men are homeless
01:09:55.680
and have very high suicide rates and it's true. Let's stick to the draft thing here really quick.
01:10:00.180
Like, um, I suppose it's the case, like, yeah, some people have political connections and they
01:10:05.580
can, but I mean, honestly, you, uh, my understanding of the draft, you can't, um, you can't get out of
01:10:14.300
it just because you're wealthy. Although it's plausible. Sure. I guess it's plausible. Even,
01:10:19.820
even then though, it's still only men that would be impacted. So, uh,
01:10:27.180
I wrote a whole song about it. But anyways, I guess to finish this off, uh, Andrew's argumentation
01:10:34.120
here is that women have a certain privilege in society. So he's like, okay, well, he has other
01:10:41.080
positions too. It's not my position. If you want to have a discussion with him on his specific
01:10:47.280
positions, you can. In any case, I don't believe in repealing the 19th, but I would like to see
01:10:52.360
an equalization between men and women when it comes to military conscription. Well, that's fair,
01:10:57.860
but well, yeah, but. So, um, if that hype, um, that question you asked her about China invading,
01:11:06.000
how do you feel about the draft? How do you think it should go? You think it should be women and men
01:11:10.520
if it's going to be? Well, that question, the hypothetical about China. Yeah. I want to know
01:11:16.340
your opinion on it. Well, it's not so much should we draft, uh, should we draft, uh, that's what you
01:11:21.080
were asking. Well, hold on. It's not, should we draft women and men? It's should we draft men
01:11:26.160
as it currently stands? Yeah. What do you think? Yes, I think so. Cool. I don't like war, but again,
01:11:35.480
it's a totally empty platitude. There are conceivable situations in which it's necessary. And
01:11:41.600
whether I think it's necessary or not, it's just the, the reality, no nation is going to give up
01:11:48.980
its power to draft its citizenry. So it's just like, I don't know. Uh, it's just like almost
01:11:57.400
moot. Is that the right word? It'd be a moot point. It's, it's just not even worth like, okay. Um,
01:12:03.560
you know, it'd be really nice if, uh, humans didn't have to breathe oxygen.
01:12:07.360
Okay. I sure. I guess like maybe there's a different thing that's better, but as it currently
01:12:15.280
stands there, like the technology isn't there to, you know, so it's like, okay. Or it'd be really
01:12:21.660
nice if humans didn't have to eat food. Okay. Maybe like hundreds of years in the future, we'll have
01:12:26.640
some technology or something where I don't know, we can get fucking sunlight or something. Um, I don't
01:12:31.360
know, but as it currently stands, okay, so cool. We need a system in place to feed humanity.
01:12:38.920
Well, there's nothing wrong with looking towards a brighter future. And I mean, I feel like that's
01:12:43.540
what you're doing with your podcast. You're trying to make things better for some of the men who feel
01:12:47.680
a bit disenfranchised. Sure. I guess you don't like how it stands now. Yeah. Um, but so I guess
01:12:53.640
going back to the original thing though, which was my negative views on feminism, because I asked you,
01:12:59.600
what are the negative views on feminism that I have? And you cited to the voting thing. Um,
01:13:07.060
maybe I shouldn't have bit on that just because I'm, that's Andrew's position about the voting.
01:13:13.480
I'm fine with women voting. So what are my negative views on feminism?
01:13:19.100
But you don't seem to like that women do have the option to do sex work. Um, okay. Um,
01:13:38.500
It's nuanced. Um, I'm not anti-sex work myself. There are some, and I can see where they're coming
01:13:44.700
from. But once again, I think another thing I mean about sometimes this is a bit rage baby,
01:13:50.340
things can get very black and white on here. And truthfully, I think there's a lot of nuances
01:13:55.400
in life that can't be defined this or that. Uh, sure. What, what's an example for something
01:14:08.280
I'm trying to remember. I watched one of your episodes and you even said I'm black and white
01:14:13.160
on this, but I can't remember the specific one, but well, what you don't remember? Well,
01:14:18.740
one thing that does come up a lot on here and, um, I'm not sure why, cause once again, this is about
01:14:25.180
dating, um, is abortion comes up a lot. And I know people are very black and white with that issue,
01:14:30.760
but sometimes there are nuances. Um, and I don't think it's something that you can just
01:14:38.100
have a yes or no. This is completely done. This is always right or wrong. So.
01:14:45.240
Um, okay. I don't really bring up abortion too much. Usually that's other people who bring it up.
01:14:50.120
Although sometimes I'll engage in that conversation. I find the abortion debate to be
01:14:54.580
kind of dull to be honest, but, um, yeah. Okay. So my opposition to sex work, I don't have any other
01:15:06.000
than I think, but what's, what's my negative views on feminism? Well, what are your positive
01:15:12.720
views on feminism? Wait, it's your position. I don't have positive views on feminism. Well,
01:15:19.160
if you, when you make those clickbait videos or someone does, and there's usually about
01:15:23.740
feminists being destroyed, I usually don't see anything about the opposite. Wait, why,
01:15:29.400
but why, why? If I'm anti-feminist, why would I have positive things to say about feminism?
01:15:34.400
Like it's plausible that. I feel like the point you're getting at is that because I can't necessarily
01:15:40.240
think of something off the top of my head, you're not anti-feminist. So that would mean you aren't,
01:15:50.000
Wait, because, wait, what? Can you repeat that one more time?
01:15:56.600
It feels like you're getting at, because you're trying to make me think of specific things from
01:16:00.780
specific episodes. No, it doesn't have to be. If I can't think of it, if I can't think of it,
01:16:04.780
and you're saying, well, I, um, if you can't think of anything, then I'm not anti-feminist,
01:16:11.320
that would mean you are a feminist because that's the opposite. Maybe I, I don't know if
01:16:16.420
I misspoke, but I, I am an anti-feminist. You wrote in your notes that I have negative views
01:16:23.700
on feminism. So I'm just asking what are those negative views? I'm not, I'm not, I'm not challenging.
01:16:33.200
Like, I think you're right. I do have negative views on feminism. I'm not disputing your claim.
01:16:37.680
I'm asking for what those claims are. It's just how you tend to present feminists on this show.
01:16:46.280
You just always seem to kind of make them look like you're crazy, but also, wait, wait, hold on.
01:16:51.820
I don't make anybody anything. So for example, people say, Brian, you make people look stupid
01:16:57.260
on the show. I don't make anybody do anything. If they choose to open their mouth and say something
01:17:03.680
that's stupid, the, the, oh, there's a microphone there. The onus is entirely on them. So this,
01:17:10.280
this criticism that I make people look stupid, whether it's related to feminism, whether it's
01:17:14.580
related to dating, I don't know how I make them look stupid. If somebody says something stupid,
01:17:21.540
they've made themselves look stupid. Oh, I think part of it, especially with the short format videos,
01:17:27.240
you're taking a clip out of a seven or eight hour video. And sometimes some of those clips don't make a
01:17:32.700
lot of sense out of context unless you sit and watch the whole thing. And sometimes it can make people
01:17:39.840
look bad, but if you watch the whole thing, it makes more sense. Well, so one thing I'd point out is
01:17:45.740
we don't, we don't do this thing where we don't splice. So when I say splice, like for example, say yes
01:17:53.420
right now, yes. Okay. Are you a, uh, uh, have you ever punched a baby in the face? No. Okay. So
01:18:05.400
splicing would be, I would use that. Yes. That you gave me before and interlace it with, uh, me asking
01:18:11.800
you if you punch babies and to make it seem like you said, yes, you punch babies. We don't do that.
01:18:17.320
I will say the shorts are short, you know, they're anywhere from 30 seconds to 90 seconds, but we don't
01:18:23.960
usually it includes the bulk of what's being said. So sure. In a short, a little short tidbit,
01:18:32.540
perhaps it excludes some of the prior conversation, but we're pretty good faith, even though the clips
01:18:40.740
are captivating and they're getting fiery moments, we're typically not excluding critical context.
01:18:47.320
That would mislead the person like, or excuse me, mislead the viewer about what the person's
01:18:55.420
actually trying to say. So while the clips are short, I don't think it's leaving out critical
01:19:00.820
context or misleading the person about what they really mean. Can I add something? Sure. So I,
01:19:07.120
I agree with you. I think that's what you do, but I also think you're never going to use clips where
01:19:11.380
someone is eating you up. And cause I've watched the whole, I've watched your whole hour and a half
01:19:15.620
and people do eat you up and you never ever have those clips, right? On occasion. Yeah. Yeah. I've
01:19:21.460
seen it. So, but I've never seen it in clips. All I've seen clips is you, is you like targeting women.
01:19:26.720
So for sure what she's saying has a little bit of truth because you definitely have, you definitely
01:19:31.560
want to portray a certain like picture for women and for, and your views. I mean, this is your podcast.
01:19:38.820
Well, that would just be edited. That wouldn't be bolstering her claim though, that even if we do
01:19:45.860
do that, you do, even if we do do that, that would be editorial discretion as to what clips we use.
01:19:53.660
Oftentimes though, while I would look, I've lost arguments on the show, but I would never see it
01:19:59.060
in small clips. Okay. I don't, well, I actually don't see anything wrong with that because one,
01:20:05.140
the full live stream is available. Yes. Other people make clips. Uh, so I, I don't actually
01:20:11.100
see any, like, for example, uh, when you take a photo that you're thinking about posting on
01:20:15.360
Instagram, you take like what, 50, you'll blast it, right? You'll take 50. How many do you post?
01:20:22.360
Why don't you post all the shitty? I post 50. Why don't you post? Actually, I'm so known to post.
01:20:27.020
Oh, okay. You go to my Instagram, I'll eat up the camera at every angle, baby. Oh, you, what about the
01:20:32.000
one where your eyes are? I'll post those because I look sexy. My eyes are twitching every, every
01:20:36.860
moment. How about, how about if your eyes are closed? You'll post. I have, I literally have
01:20:40.540
pictures on my Instagram eyes closed. So everybody exercises editorial discretion. If you closed your
01:20:45.620
eyes on a photo, you're not going to post that one. Well, I do, but maybe other girls will. Yeah,
01:20:49.720
of course. I'm going to post the clips. I mean, by the way, 99% of all potential clips that could be
01:20:56.580
reaped from any show, like overwhelmingly, like maybe a girl will get one on me, but yeah, I'm 99%
01:21:04.620
of the time they're getting wrecked. Okay. They're getting fucking wrecked. Okay. Good talk. But I
01:21:12.380
don't see how that has anything to do with anything. Negative views. What are my negative views on
01:21:19.180
feminism? I need a moment to think. Can you share yours? I haven't watched your podcast enough to
01:21:27.980
know too much about you. I just heard of it. Well, I feel like, you know, it's. So I really
01:21:33.860
want to, please enlighten me. Why, why are you anti-feminist? Yeah, sure. So, I mean, I'll give
01:21:39.380
you, I will give you two definitions of feminism. My charitable definition. Feminism is a women's
01:21:50.820
advocacy movement. Nothing wrong with women's advocacy. The reason, this is my most charitable,
01:21:58.280
generous definition, but it will never be an equality movement. Feminism is not about equality
01:22:05.180
despite representations to the contrary. Feminism doesn't care about equality. And I'll explain
01:22:12.200
why. It cares about equality if said equality can benefit women. But if a form of equality could
01:22:22.040
conceivably come to the detriment of women, feminists not only won't pursue it, but will actively fight
01:22:29.900
against pursuing said equality, again, if that equality were to benefit or were to come to the
01:22:36.540
detriment of women in some conceivable way. So by this very nature, if you don't believe in just
01:22:44.100
equality across the board, you can't actually truly be egalitarian. You can't truly be, believe in
01:22:50.820
equality. Ergo, feminists don't believe in equality. And by the way, there's not, again, there's nothing
01:22:56.920
wrong with women's advocacy. That's fine. But don't parade feminism as an equality movement when it's
01:23:03.840
not. My actual definition, that's my charitable definition, though. My actual definition of feminism
01:23:08.520
is it's women's advocacy, dot, dot, dot, plus, plus, its whole foundation and basis is centered around
01:23:23.060
anti-male rhetoric and man-hating. And bigotry towards men and sexism towards men and misandry.
01:23:30.980
And why does that matter to you? Wait, what do you mean? What? Hold on. Was someone very cruel
01:23:35.680
to you at some point? Yeah, this sounds like somebody hurt you or you're like... Wait, wait,
01:23:39.100
how would that... How would you... Because why do you care so much? What do you mean? Why would I...
01:23:43.740
Because you care so much. The way you're talking about it is like it's lighting a fire in you that...
01:23:47.900
Wait, wait, wait, hold on. Yeah, you're passionate about it. Super. Wait, wait, hold on. Do you care about racism?
01:23:52.700
I do. Is... Why do you care so much? Who hurt you? Because I have plenty of friends who are black
01:23:58.440
that go through racism every day. So, of course, I'm going to care. Okay, cool. So, I think sexism
01:24:02.680
is bad. Why can't you acknowledge that sexism towards men is bad? Because it's... Because I don't...
01:24:07.800
Because I don't agree. You... What do you mean you don't agree? Don't agree with what precisely?
01:24:13.160
Can you re... Restate your sentence? Well, hold on. Your... Your entire position was,
01:24:18.780
well, Brian, why do you care about negative outcomes for men and sexism directed towards men
01:24:23.840
and like anti-male rhetoric? Yeah, but then when you went in... What a crazy position to actually even
01:24:29.100
take to say that anti-male rhetoric... Who should actually care about that? That's precisely the
01:24:34.600
thing I'm fighting against. But here's the thing that women are shitting on men because of the things
01:24:41.220
that men do. How many women do you hear that are raping people, killing people, like literally
01:24:48.540
every... Oh, all the time. All the time. Women do this all the time and they do it in a really
01:24:53.700
bad way. You see it in the school system. You see these women raping their students. They're
01:24:59.160
absolutely doing it. The percentage of that is actually so low compared to the men raping women.
01:25:03.780
Oh, so, okay. So, the differentials, we're talking about percentages now. Yes. Yes, it happens
01:25:09.240
all the time. Every single time. It's very high. Very high. Women do this all the time.
01:25:13.700
Every single time I go outside, a man is harassing me. Every day. Every single time I go outside.
01:25:20.320
Cool. All right. No, not cool. It's literally like, what's wrong with you guys? And women
01:25:24.680
aren't doing that to men. I can't just like walk outside and feel okay without a man literally
01:25:30.980
like being disgusted. Check that. Check this out. That's bad. Men shouldn't do it. How
01:25:35.660
about you guys make a... Why don't you guys rebuke the anti-male rhetoric that your side
01:25:43.580
invokes? What? I do think women can be sexist. Is it bad? As they should. It is. Wait, you
01:25:52.280
think women should be sexist? I think that if the majority of a group of people, which happens
01:25:59.920
to be a whole gender, that yeah, maybe you guys should wake up and stop being weirdos.
01:26:06.600
Wait, hold on. Okay, so... As a whole. As a collective. I see. Because it's the majority
01:26:11.300
of men. The majority of men are what? Weirdos. Creeps. Weirdos and creeps. Okay. What specifically
01:26:17.620
is the majority of men doing? First of all... That warrants women's sexism? We're scared to walk
01:26:23.860
outside because we feel like we're going to get raped. Like literally. Okay, I'm scared. Well, hold
01:26:29.380
on. Men are more likely... Women don't scare you. Why would a woman scare you? What are
01:26:33.440
we doing that's so scary to men? Well, hold on. I didn't even say that, but I'm saying
01:26:37.880
men are more likely to be victims of violent crime. No. Yes, they are. Yeah, you guys are
01:26:43.540
doing that to each other. No woman is coming... So? Exactly. Like... What does it matter
01:26:48.000
the gender of the perpetrator? It's men. Like, if you have an issue with violence... It's a small
01:26:53.840
proportion of men. Your own gender is causing that on you. So it doesn't matter then? It does.
01:26:59.140
That's the whole point. It's like men... No, no, no, but what I'm saying is... Men are even causing
01:27:02.440
harm to other men. Right, but what you're doing now is victim blaming. Like, now they're literally
01:27:08.600
just causing trouble on everybody. Right, but you're victim blaming. So you're saying, well, when men
01:27:13.880
are victimized, it doesn't matter as much because the perpetrator of the crime is also male.
01:27:18.620
So what does me share... Really? I mean, yeah. What does me sharing a gender with the perpetrator
01:27:25.140
of the crime, how does that make me less of a victim? I'm just saying that, like, you guys
01:27:31.500
are victims, you said, of violence, but you guys are violent towards each other. That has
01:27:37.060
nothing to do with women. Right, but I'm a little bit confused here. You guys caused the most
01:27:42.980
crime. Men cause the most crime. They cause the most rape. They just do. It's a statistically
01:27:48.380
proven effect. Right, so I mean, I would agree that, yes, the crime statistics do bear out
01:27:54.160
that the majority of these people perpetrating violent crimes are men. There's no dispute
01:27:59.200
there, although I have some disputes in how some of this data is gathered. I'll grant it,
01:28:05.100
but I would also point out that oftentimes, in terms of the severity of punishment, women get
01:28:12.680
off quite easily. Men are less likely to report being abused physically by women. So the crime
01:28:21.240
statistics are a bit skewed, but even then, I'll grant that, yes, men are over-representing
01:28:25.360
this crime, but I would point to what percentage? Because it's a very... If we're looking at criminality,
01:28:31.340
it's a really small percentage. And if what you're saying is true, that it's okay to espouse bigotry
01:28:40.220
towards men because a small apex of them commit crimes, well, congratulations, you've just opened
01:28:47.540
up the door to every racist argument against black people that there has ever been. Except the
01:28:53.500
difference between me and you is, is I would say it's wrong to be racist towards black people despite
01:28:59.200
their disproportionate representation in criminality. I would like for you to say the same about men.
01:29:05.600
Otherwise, you must say that racism towards blacks is justified because of their increased
01:29:12.640
proportionality in criminality. First of all, black people were put through hell by men. Okay,
01:29:20.520
women... Wait, black people were put through hell by men? Women were not in charge of the country back
01:29:24.260
then. Men were. Hold on, whoa, whoa, that's crazy. Women were slave owners. We did... Women were slave
01:29:29.420
owners. That were forced to be by their... There haven't been slaves. By their husbands. There
01:29:33.620
haven't been... Men ran the country. When did slavery end? Men ran the country. What does slavery have to do
01:29:39.300
with somebody being a fucking murderer today? Because you're saying you're trying to say that racism has
01:29:46.380
anything to do with just... Men did this to themselves, okay? What are you talking... Racism was put onto
01:29:53.420
people. Like, they're a victim of racism. Men are not a victim of being called a bad person. The
01:29:59.540
majority of men are like weirdos and they did it to themselves. The reason why people don't fuck with
01:30:05.900
men is because of themselves. They did it to themselves. People did not do racism to themselves.
01:30:12.140
Like, again, what are you not understanding? It's just completely incoherent and again... It's not.
01:30:17.760
It's really not. It is because you're saying, okay, more men than women commit these crimes. Okay,
01:30:23.880
cool. That opens up the conversation that can be had of more black people commit these crimes than
01:30:30.280
white people. So racism is okay? That's also not true. It is true. Is racism okay then? No.
01:30:37.700
Why not? What do you mean why not? If it... Because somebody's color is also towards like women and men.
01:30:45.600
Like, it's not... Yeah, and also the color of your skin. You can't... It's not the... It's not your fault
01:30:50.680
that that's your color of your skin. And just because you're a man, it doesn't mean it's because
01:30:54.600
you're a man that you're committing crimes. Of course. But like, people are going to judge you
01:30:59.740
because, yeah, the majority of men are weirdos and perverts. The majority of men are not weirdos and
01:31:06.060
perverts. They are because every time me and my friends step outside, there's not one time where a man,
01:31:11.340
we come in contact with him and he's not being weird to us. Okay, so just to be clear. So,
01:31:15.600
have you ever been in like a crowded shopping mall? Yes. So the majority of men in that shopping
01:31:21.980
mall, in a shopping mall, say things to you. Yes. The majority. Yes. What part of LA do you live
01:31:28.760
in? East LA. Near downtown. Just curious, what's the demographic breakdown in East LA? It's honestly
01:31:37.180
a mix of everybody. Mixed. It's mixed. All of LA. All of LA is a pothole mix. So, I mean,
01:31:45.260
I find this completely dubious, this idea that in, like, you're at a mall in the day. It just doesn't
01:31:50.440
happen to you so you wouldn't know. Exactly. It just doesn't happen to you. It just really
01:31:53.860
happens to certain people. Bro, tell you what. I want to send one of y'all down with a camera.
01:32:00.060
Let's do it. There's a university right here. Oh, let's do it. Please. Let's do it. There's a school
01:32:02.900
right here. Please. We can have you guys go on campus and I want to see 50% or more of the men
01:32:09.160
saying something to you. Let's do it. I guarantee you, you could walk for 10 minutes. Nobody's saying shit to you.
01:32:15.320
Nobody gives a fuck about you guys. Trust me. Trust me. They seem to care. Nobody's saying anything.
01:32:21.440
I've never been to this area of this area, but I'm pretty sure it would. What's the statistics for
01:32:28.640
this area? Because I just saw YB. Bro. I don't know. Who? Anybody? Nick. I'm just curious. Nick, you're a student.
01:32:34.960
Yeah, yeah. Look, girls are not being fucking street harassed. But they are. A majority. Hold on.
01:32:52.160
Yes, it occurs, but it's not over 50% of men. Okay. That would literally be. Bro, here. Yeah, yeah. Can I,
01:33:00.040
I want the other women. There's other women here at the table. You're telling me when you walk down the
01:33:03.920
street and you're at the mall, more than 50% of the men say something to you and are a creep? Really?
01:33:11.680
No, but when I am harassed, it is almost always by a man. Okay. That's totally fine. But does no other
01:33:20.640
woman, no woman here can stand up to the, that the majority of men come up to you and say something
01:33:26.620
creepy? Really? I don't think the majority of men are creeps or weirdos, but I will say when I have
01:33:32.740
gotten a rude comment, which luckily hasn't been often, it has been from a man. And usually it's
01:33:38.420
out of nowhere, very surprising and kind of disheartening. Like one time I went to, I don't
01:33:43.060
know if not out of state people know about Kroger. It's Indiana's grocery store, but I had a guy make
01:33:48.700
a really rude, surprising comment, me in a parking lot. And it was really hurtful. Okay. And there's
01:33:54.280
no, fine. Whenever you get, yeah. Okay. You get catcalled. It's by man. That's wrong. We get it.
01:34:01.740
Why are you guys justifying then? Even if I grant to you all, this is true. I actually, I wouldn't
01:34:09.260
even grant this. Like majority of men are fucking like harassing you. That's ridiculous.
01:34:14.640
I wouldn't say majority. I would just say it happens every day. Like that wouldn't be a
01:34:19.860
majority though. I'm not going to say majority. I'm going to say it's majority. I don't think
01:34:25.200
most men are creeps. Because I think some men are too, like too scared to even like, to,
01:34:30.180
you know, I almost want to wager on this, but even if it look, whatever, every time, every
01:34:35.760
single time you go out, some guy says something, I don't know. Also, we have to define what creepy
01:34:43.380
is. Some guy shoots his shot at you somewhat politely. You're going to categorize him as
01:34:48.640
creepy. Who knows? Even granting every single time you go out, something happens that wouldn't
01:34:55.400
then give you justification to just across the board, hate all men. I don't hate all men.
01:35:01.940
I never said that statement. Okay. Then fine. It wouldn't give you justification to espouse
01:35:06.580
anti-male rhetoric. I don't do. If you go on the website, Megan's law. So on every area,
01:35:13.380
it'll like tell you who's a registered pedophile. The majority of the people listed on that
01:35:18.560
website are male. Thank you. Okay. And there'll be like a bunch of them around you. I think that
01:35:24.920
like says something, right? It doesn't say that the majority of men are weirdos. It says the
01:35:31.040
majority of weirdos are men. That's what it says. Okay. But this is, we're looking at a very small
01:35:37.080
proportion. We're looking at what is called the apex, a small proportion. You can't attribute
01:35:42.900
to the entire group, the conduct and behavior. Okay. So you can't stop. You can't attribute to
01:35:49.400
the entire group, the conduct and behavior of a small, small proportion of the group. That's
01:35:56.000
bigotry. Okay. So then I would say you can't. Okay. Sorry. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead.
01:36:02.280
I would say you can't say the same thing about feminism and have your, because I have your
01:36:07.800
viewpoint on feminism and mine are completely different. I don't think I'm a feminist and
01:36:12.840
I don't think that I, because of that, I think I'm better than men or I think I'm equal. And
01:36:17.820
that's the point of feminism to like bring me to equal because at the end of the day, I'm
01:36:22.100
like in the, in today's, even today to 2025, like I am not equal to a man. Like I can't
01:36:28.420
get a job at this, like a man will beat me at a job first, even if my, my resume is better,
01:36:33.640
even if I want to do better. Yes. Affirmative action. There's affirmative action, especially
01:36:38.260
in the entertainment industry. No, especially in the entertainment. No, especially. Music is
01:36:42.840
man dominated. No, it's not. Yes, it is. It's barely. How is it male dominated when the highest
01:36:48.740
paid performing artists currently are almost all women? Male dominated, meaning there's mostly men
01:36:55.840
in the industry. Who's out earning Taylor Swift? Tell me who's out earning Taylor Swift.
01:37:01.660
We're not talking about the money. We're talking about how many are in the industry.
01:37:05.440
There's plenty of women. Okay. But if we're talking about numbers, statistics,
01:37:08.640
it's like 70, 30. Perhaps that could be the case. It is the case. I'm a musician, so I would know.
01:37:14.060
Wait, then you would expect if there's more men in the music industry that they would be the
01:37:17.860
highest earners, but they're clearly not. Because they're not, because they're not like women are,
01:37:22.500
women are better. Okay. Anyways, there's a massive. They're talented. There's massive amounts of
01:37:27.920
affirmative action in the entertainment industry, in all industries, plenty of affirmative action.
01:37:32.980
Nothing's preventing a woman from getting a job. Also to your point about, well, men make up the
01:37:37.040
majority of this. There's plenty of crimes that I could point to that women are the majority of.
01:37:42.280
I wouldn't then say because of this, because women are overrepresented in this particular crime
01:37:47.800
statistics, that women generally across the board are bad or evil. I would say those specific people
01:37:54.880
that have, there's a criminal element amongst this percentage of women. These people are bad.
01:38:00.100
It's the criminals that are bad, not women as a whole. And in rebuttal to your point, not men as
01:38:05.440
a whole. I agree. Not men as a whole. I will, if you recall that criticism I sent you about how
01:38:11.500
men can benefit from feminism. I'll give you an example. You mentioned a lot of young male
01:38:16.580
students who do get sexually harassed or raped by their teachers that are female. And that's a
01:38:22.680
terrible thing. And sometimes I see some guys kind of have this idea, like older men, especially
01:38:32.700
if you look at news articles of a female teacher who's raped a child that was a male student,
01:38:37.560
instead of being like, that's rape, that's wrong, that's bad. They're like, oh, he scored with the
01:38:42.580
hot teacher. That's so cool. There's even a movie about it with Adam Sandler in it. And that's,
01:38:47.980
that's really messed up. And I feel like with feminism, you recognize that's rape and you hold
01:38:53.860
those women accountable. But I, you know, I think that would, you know, that's rape. And I don't
01:39:01.280
understand why there's a culture of men who say, oh no, you just scored with the hot older woman.
01:39:06.260
Right. But so this idea, like even the, the, some of the statistics that were referenced today,
01:39:12.180
well, men are disproportionately this. The reality is to your point, they don't even get categorized
01:39:18.760
as rapists. They get, it's like another, it's another sort of sex crime. It's an essay. But when
01:39:24.280
we say, oh, well, 97% of men are, or 97% of rapists are men. Well, if the crime itself, you,
01:39:31.740
you can't be, uh, women, depending on the jurisdiction, can't be charged with crime of
01:39:37.140
rape because in, for, in some of these jurisdictions, they have to, there has to be like a penetrative
01:39:43.240
component to be charged with rape. And I agree. Um, I think that is wrong. And that's what I mean
01:39:49.080
about not everything's black and white. There's a lot of nuance and. Right. But again, I get that you
01:39:54.400
guys want to like shit on men and point out how specific men are so terrible, blah, blah, blah. But my
01:40:00.600
contention has always been, I don't really, I'm not inclined to dispute these statistics so much as
01:40:06.240
you guys can keep bringing up, okay, well this portion of men commit these crimes. Why would
01:40:12.660
that be justification for anti-male rhetoric? I think it's more of just women trying to bring
01:40:20.820
attention to all men to like do better. Well, that's a crazy, okay. I think let's replace men
01:40:27.600
with black people. It's not race. Your statement becomes, yeah, it's not race. Your statement would
01:40:32.900
become. Black people didn't do anything to deserve what they got. Men. What? Do. Men do. Men deserve
01:40:38.600
what? What is it men deserve? Men deserve ridicule and being told to do better. So you think a 10 year
01:40:44.500
old boy deserves ridicule? He's a child. He's male. But you can't really judge someone until they're an
01:40:52.560
adult. Like that's a child. Okay. So 18 year olds can be ridiculed. Yes. Even if they've never done
01:40:58.080
anything wrong. I mean, eventually it probably will. Why? Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on. You realize
01:41:05.160
that eventually, if they're not taught correctly, it could turn really bad. They could become abusive.
01:41:13.780
They could become weirdos. They become rapists. Hold on. You have to be very careful how you raise
01:41:19.380
men these days. I have a little brother and it's very. You have just one brother? No, I have three
01:41:24.800
brothers. Okay. How many? What? Wait, wait, wait, what? Oh, you said the majority of men were creeps and
01:41:30.880
weirdos. Yes. So the majority of your brothers must be creeps and weirdos. We did not raise them
01:41:35.300
like that. Oh, so it's your family. Your family is above and beyond all these other families out
01:41:42.140
there. Are your parents still together? No. Oh, okay. My dad cheated on my mom. Once again, a man
01:41:49.640
hurting a woman. Okay. Women cheat all the time. I'm just saying the statistics. But, but I mean,
01:41:56.400
according to you, what percentage of men do you think one day are going to be rapists?
01:42:01.240
What do you mean? Well, you said, well, you know, 18 year olds, they, you know, they haven't done
01:42:06.340
anything yet, but down the road, they're going to jump out and rape a woman. No, but if what
01:42:12.820
percentage of men will rape? What do you think? Well, to be honest, like I saw, I read this article
01:42:20.660
that said one in four children, girl children are raped. That's not the question I asked you. I
01:42:28.820
asked you what percentage of men. So based off of that statistic, probably maybe like one
01:42:38.260
in 20 men will be a rapist. One in 20. So 5%. Yeah. 5%. The crime statistics don't bear this
01:42:48.020
out at all. Completely fake news. Um, in any case, so you think one of your brothers, wait,
01:42:54.980
so statistically chat, maybe help me with the math. She has three brothers. She says one in 20 men.
01:43:01.100
What's the overall percentage chance? One of her brothers is a, is a weirdo, like a rapist.
01:43:09.320
Would that be, wait, would it be 15? Would that, I don't know if my math is math in one in six.
01:43:18.020
Where did you pull this one in 20? You just pulled that out of your ass? No, I was just saying, I think,
01:43:28.720
yeah, I was just saying, I think based off of the statistic I saw of one of four children,
01:43:41.540
You think one in 20 men are okay. Yeah. And also literally every women, every woman that I've met,
01:43:51.480
like damn near have all been raped, especially as a child. So.
01:43:56.660
Uh, I mean, should we pull the panelists here on this? I don't. I'm just saying, like, I have never
01:44:05.800
been surrounded by so many victims of this that are caused by men. I've never heard of,
01:44:13.300
I've never met anyone that was raped by a woman. And also I'm just saying, like, people are not
01:44:19.860
trying to come for men, say they hate men, but we're just saying to do better and to be more
01:44:24.900
mindful of like not making women feel uncomfortable. Yeah. That's collective guilt though. You're saying
01:44:30.520
all men must do better because a small portion of men have done heinous things. But it's not a
01:44:35.540
small portion. I'm not guilty for what other men have done. You're not, but you're also responsible
01:44:42.740
for yourself to not be like that because for some reason men can't keep it in their pants.
01:44:50.920
Wait, hold on. The majority of your gender are weirdos. So just make sure that you are not.
01:44:56.880
No, the majority of men are not weirdos. The majority of, okay. You don't live in our shoes.
01:45:02.340
What's the threshold to be a weirdo? I think if you are coming up to someone or walking past someone
01:45:08.100
and saying something vulgar about their, damn, baby, that's a tight ass. That's not okay to say.
01:45:15.580
Or damn, damn, I bet, I bet your pussy's pink. Like they literally say that to us.
01:45:24.500
No, I've been all over, no, I've been all over the country. They're all weird. I've been all over
01:45:29.440
the country. They're all like this. I, okay. So that's the threshold for being weird.
01:45:35.600
The majority of every single day, a guy says, is it pink? Yes. Yes. I don't believe this, bro.
01:45:43.080
Here, yo, yo, yo. I need to hear from you. Look, maybe it's the case for you. I don't know where
01:45:47.580
the fuck you live. I need to ask some of the women. Just to be clear, before, before I ask for your
01:45:52.800
own anecdotal. If men don't hit on you, that's not my problem. Before I, I acknowledge, I'm sure all of
01:45:58.100
you have had a bad experience with a guy. A guy has said something rude or gross or whatever,
01:46:03.120
but what we're examining now is, does this happen to you every single day? Every single day,
01:46:11.560
a guy, when you're walking by him, says, hey baby, you're not tight ass.
01:46:21.760
Has that been your experience? No, not entirely.
01:46:25.880
How often would you say that happens? Well, it depends if I'm like alone. Also depends on how I
01:46:32.720
dress or if I'm like with someone. Just how, your, whatever your life experience has been.
01:46:40.740
Once or twice a week. Once or twice a week. Okay.
01:46:43.920
I would say probably around, um, the same when like walking outside in public on the street. Um,
01:46:51.060
I don't do it often because when I do do it, probably. Okay. Felicity, what do you, what about you?
01:46:57.820
Um, I can think of maybe three to five times this year where I've been harassed like that. Not
01:47:04.500
necessarily that comment specifically, but. Just any comment on that level. Yeah. So like three to
01:47:10.120
five times, I would say. Okay. What about, what about you? No, I can honestly say I've never had
01:47:16.000
a man give me a disrespectful comment outside, inside, in person, substitute teaching throughout
01:47:23.080
my whole life. I am so sorry. And from Indiana. I've been to Las Vegas. I've been to other countries.
01:47:30.180
I've been to many states. I'm sorry that the majority of you have had to deal with that. That
01:47:35.780
that's completely wrong. It's inappropriate. Yeah. It's different on the internet. I think the
01:47:40.220
internet, it's way more. Yeah, that's different. That's different. I'm speaking strictly like
01:47:47.180
street harassment. Really? Every day? I wouldn't say every day, but I would say every time I go out
01:47:54.000
at night, it happens. We're also from LA. Exactly. You're not from LA, I'm assuming? No. Okay.
01:48:01.420
Exactly. So it's a little different. LA happens in New York. It's not from New York. Then I would
01:48:06.100
also say though, the type of environment also is a factor there. When people, like I'm not excusing
01:48:12.440
the behavior. It's wrong no matter what. But when these guys are drunk, they're going to say some
01:48:17.700
stupid shit. It's still wrong. You go to Trader Joe's and some guy who's lifting up some fucking
01:48:25.140
cute organic cucumbers is like, hey, yo, baby. Look at this. No, it would be like an older
01:48:29.820
man. Like a grandpa or like a daddy. Wait, I'll tell you what. I'm going to hire a film crew
01:48:37.520
to follow you around. I'm going to hire a fucking film crew. I've also been sexually assaulted at
01:48:41.940
Trader Joe's. I will literally be dressed like a boy and they will still try it. And I'm like,
01:48:46.100
do you not see what I look like right now? What part of LA are you in? No, this is like-
01:48:49.480
Just what part of LA? Like Hollywood. What's your city? Hollywood? Yeah. I don't know. I don't
01:48:53.620
know. All right. Whatever. Anyways, I don't know. Where were we? I got to get up momentarily. I got
01:48:58.740
to take a little breather. Zucchini's work too. The chat says here, let me read the chats that came
01:49:04.580
through. Oh, sorry for the delay on these guys. It was, uh, hold on. Let me let the chats-
01:49:11.160
Adzils donated $200. Back again, Brian. Much love from the UK as per. Need a big panel soon? Time to
01:49:20.620
assemble the Avengers. Andrew, Q, and Jake. Need to see it. Yo. Yo, Adzils. Thank you for the 200,
01:49:28.880
man. Really appreciate it. And, uh, yeah, it'd be good to have some of the guys on. Thank you, man.
01:49:34.500
And we have a couple others here. By the way, guys, somebody in the, in the chat was complaining,
01:49:39.060
like, oh, we didn't pull, I didn't read the super chats. The threshold for read is 100
01:49:42.900
and TTS is 200. So we'll display, display anything under the thresholds. But to read,
01:49:50.380
TTS, 100, 200. Uh, and then we have a couple displays. We have a read here.
01:49:58.080
Oh, uh, didn't come through. Hold on. Let's see.
01:50:02.840
Well, 10 and up. Yeah. Uh, my mother's an 18 year Navy veteran who had two kids while serving active
01:50:11.960
duty. Plus I've known plenty of women who had kids while in the service. You can easily have kids in
01:50:18.280
the military. Yeah, I agree. What that doesn't mean it's good for them. This came in a while. That
01:50:23.080
came in a while ago. That was like an hour ago or so. Uh, thank you for that though. Appreciate it,
01:50:27.780
man. Thank you. Uh, disgruntled care bear, care bear stare. Thank you, man. Uh, and then these are
01:50:34.780
just, uh, these are just, uh, displays. Thank you guys for those. Appreciate it guys. Uh, I need to
01:50:41.300
get up momentarily Felicity. Why don't you, uh, we'll come back to some of the feminist stuff, but
01:50:48.480
you know, why don't you ask, uh, what would the minimum income question? Okay.
01:50:54.240
Center. Center. Okay, guys. What would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future
01:51:00.680
husband starting with you? Um, honestly, I'm looking to start like a family with someone
01:51:07.260
that can provide generational wealth. Like I'm not just trying to have kids and then leave them
01:51:14.020
to like struggle. Um, I came from a family of middle class and there's just a lot of things
01:51:22.180
that we lacked even being middle class. And I refuse to be in middle class. And if I'm going to have
01:51:31.580
kids, like they're going to be able to live the best life that they could possibly live. I want them
01:51:37.020
to be able to travel and to get good education and to do everything that they want to do in this life.
01:51:44.020
Like who wants to be born in a life that's like struggle and pain. So I would say the minimum
01:51:50.820
is at least like 10 to 20 million. Um, yeah, I agree that you shouldn't struggle in life. You
01:52:00.060
shouldn't allow your kid to struggle in life, but you wrote 20 million. I don't, I think that's like
01:52:06.840
a very small percentage of men that make 20 million. You can be totally comfortable.
01:52:11.420
Well, we don't want to be comfortable. Yeah. It's just our lifestyle. Like above comfortable
01:52:16.940
is what I'm saying without 20 million. I feel like a lot of people that answer this question,
01:52:23.300
this is not a dig, you guys like equate net worth to men are yearly income, like salary. It's not the
01:52:30.640
same. You can make like $300,000 a year and be totally set for life. But I'm not trying to like
01:52:39.160
be set for my life only. I'm trying to provide a lot of people, their families and stuff for life.
01:52:45.680
It's about like savings too. For sure. For sure. We're not trying to live like a normal life. Like
01:52:52.000
we also plan to have multiple, like, you know, businesses and we're both in the entertainment
01:52:59.460
industry. Like we definitely are not trying to have just like a normal life. Yeah. Like
01:53:04.480
we just are. Kudos to whoever wants that. Like everyone, everyone like is opinion is like
01:53:11.240
everyone can choose their path and I don't think you should judge anyone or try to change them.
01:53:17.420
I'm not judging. I'm just asking. Yeah. No, I'm just saying. I just, I think there shouldn't be
01:53:21.040
judgment on someone's, someone else's goals, even if they don't align with yours. Because yes,
01:53:25.740
I'm saying I want my future husband or wife to have 20 million, but that means I also will have
01:53:31.060
20 million. Right. So you'll work to a job, just successful. Exactly. Like that's, that's because I
01:53:36.900
know I'm going to make that type of money. I have to have a partner that's on the same level as I am.
01:53:41.380
Exactly. What job is that? What did I, in their entertainment agency. Wait, what? So what did she say?
01:53:46.620
20 million. You want minimum, minimum. I said 10 to 20. We said 10 to 20. Because here you wrote
01:53:51.260
20 million is the minimum yearly income, but you'll settle for 10. You'll settle for 10. Yeah. What
01:53:57.660
about nine? Because I'm also bringing mine to the table. So like us together will be enough for our
01:54:02.840
generations to come. You're, you're bringing. We want to bring the same amount. Yeah. So you,
01:54:09.060
a guy who makes nine mil. Nope. Okay. Sure. What's the lowest? Yeah. Like I'm not trying to go
01:54:15.900
lower than that. You wouldn't do eight mil? Like maybe, I don't know. I'm just real.
01:54:24.600
She wrote 20 mil. Oh yeah. Our past people are in this range. Like why would I settle for anything
01:54:33.680
less? In your past? Yes. You just broke up with a guy three days ago? Yeah. Had past relationships.
01:54:42.600
He makes 10 mil to 20 mil? His dad does. He doesn't. Right. That's why she's not marrying him.
01:54:49.220
So I'm not ready to marry him. She's not ready to marry him. We're not ready to marry anytime soon. You
01:54:52.280
asked us marriage, you didn't ask us time frame. I wouldn't marry him. This could be in like 15 years
01:54:56.440
when I'm like grown and I myself have the same type of money because I want to marry someone that
01:55:01.180
has the same type of money I'm going to make. And I know for a fact, I'm going to make that. And also,
01:55:06.380
I know he will eventually make that much money. So it's not like he's a bum and you know, but it's
01:55:12.100
like, I'm not even going to look your way if you cannot like eventually get there. But it's not
01:55:18.560
because I have certain goals and I want my partner to have the same goals. Exactly. Okay. So it's 20
01:55:26.680
million for you. What did you say? I have no preference. Well, I mean, I mean, it'd be nice.
01:55:33.080
How much does your current partner make? Um, a pair less than me, which is, I don't really want to
01:55:40.180
talk about it. Is it six figures? No, no, no. Neither one of us makes six figures. Most people in the US
01:55:45.180
with paycheck. Sorry. And you said, I would say 10 million or like, yeah, yeah. No, you wrote 20
01:55:51.420
million. Yeah. We were the same thing. Okay. I'm going to, I'm going to address the 20 million thing,
01:55:57.300
but moving on next. What about you? Um, I didn't write anything down. Yeah. You left it empty.
01:56:02.440
Yeah. I wasn't necessarily sure what to write because I am actually a very simple girl. I worry about love.
01:56:10.900
That's what I worry about. And I understand. So you'll date a guy who works at McDonald's.
01:56:15.180
Hell no. Well, you, it's got to matter somewhat. Hell no. Like you have to have some sort of
01:56:21.280
drive. Okay. But so what's the minimum? A hundred K? What? At least a hundred K. Oh, well, yeah. You
01:56:26.900
should have wrote out at least a hundred K then. All right. Sina, what about you? 400 K? 400,000.
01:56:33.320
Canadian or? USD. Oh, USD. Oh, the Canadians are fucked. All right. What about you? I put, I put one
01:56:40.980
million. One million. One million. Yeah. A little bit of manifestation there. Um, I should have raised
01:56:47.020
my standards girls. I said minimum 50 to 60 K. And the reason why I said that is because I understand
01:56:53.900
compounding interest. I know that $1 value today can actually be more tomorrow. So when I look at it,
01:56:59.960
it's like, okay, you need to be able to sustain yourself. 50, 60 K in my state is pretty, it's
01:57:07.340
doable for one person. Well, it's okay. We don't need, yeah. Not to cut you off. Just no, it's okay.
01:57:11.700
We just needed the straightforward answer. Felicity. You guys are making me look humble and they
01:57:16.700
usually flame me for my answer. I'm thinking in Santa Barbara. Cause I live here. 150.
01:57:22.440
Like thousand. Okay. So we have 20 million, 10. Well, 20, you guys wrote, but I'm saying
01:57:29.620
10. Okay. 10. I want 10 million too. Exactly. And you will have it. Speak it and take this
01:57:35.360
thing. Sina wants, yeah, there's no reason you want 400,000. You want a million. I'm going
01:57:41.640
to focus on the, the millionaire demands to start and then Sina will get a small percentage
01:57:48.480
of my wrath. Uh, so, so let's start with the two women here who want a guy to make between
01:57:56.420
10 and 20 million per year. Fine. Lesbian love, richness, love it. And you guys think you,
01:58:05.920
you want this because you think you guys will make this. No, because I know I will make it.
01:58:09.600
You know? Yes. Yes. I'm smart. I'm driven. I work hard. There's no reason why I shouldn't.
01:58:16.060
Um, okay. Well, I mean, there's a lot of smart, driven, strong work ethic people that make
01:58:23.340
a hundred thousand dollars a year. Yeah, for sure. There's nothing wrong with that. I'm not
01:58:28.720
degrading anybody. I'm just saying these are my goals. There's nothing wrong with that.
01:58:33.220
Um, and what you, what do you do for work again? Um, like how are you going to make that?
01:58:38.480
I do a lot of things. Um, I do a lot of freelance, like creative directing, styling. I get casted
01:58:46.400
for like, I did like a Grammy show, you know, like a lot of just like modeling, performing arts,
01:58:53.360
modeling. How much do you make currently? A year, like 80,000. 80,000. Okay. What,
01:58:59.440
but I also, but I also have sponsors. What do you mean sponsors? Oh, sugar daddies. Yes. Um,
01:59:06.400
you're not going to make 10,000 a year from sugar daddies. Oh no, I don't plan to, but they're
01:59:11.960
going to fund my revenues and they're going to fund the things that are going to eventually
01:59:18.040
make me that much money. And I don't even have to give them sugar. I'm just a professional
01:59:22.920
finesser. Uh, let's dive into that quickly and briefly. So how many sugar daddies do you
01:59:30.240
currently have? Um, well, I just got out of a relationship, so I have like, um, like an old
01:59:37.400
one, I guess I could call up, but, um, in a good year, I like to have around like 10 and
01:59:46.180
then they all give me like $10,000 a month. Uh, they all give you $10,000 a month. Yeah.
01:59:54.820
But when I, you know, all of them give you just about, yeah. So you make a hundred thousand
02:00:01.660
dollars a month when I have 10. Yeah. How many do you have now? Like I just got a relationship.
02:00:07.680
So, but you were dating him for two years. Yeah. But we broke up five times. So like in
02:00:12.380
between that, like I got some and then I like let them go. And so do you meet up with these
02:00:18.260
guys? Um, sometimes like a lot of them live in New York or San Francisco. Um, they do, but
02:00:29.020
I never really meet them. Like, I don't know. I just make up an excuse that I can't see them
02:00:34.320
or something. Like I just finesse. I literally just finesse. So fraud. Okay. Um, and then,
02:00:41.100
um, uh, so a guy has flown, uh, I've gone on trips with some guys before too, but they
02:00:48.920
just want me to be around them. Like they just want to be seen with me, you know? So
02:00:52.780
it's like, you know, it's a win-win for everyone. Uh, so how many times have you done this thing
02:00:59.800
where you, the guy flies you out expecting to meet up with you, but you don't meet them
02:01:04.640
like three times. And where were the locations that New York all three times and Vegas anywhere
02:01:11.440
else? Miami. No, I've actually never been to Miami. No Miami. Okay. Um, okay. So do you
02:01:20.540
have any sugar daddies right now or no? Um, I guess kind of what were you finessing your
02:01:26.700
boyfriend? No, no. Cause you were with him for like, no, actually I spent more money on
02:01:32.380
him low key. So he was finessing you. Not really. He just wasn't romantic. You know,
02:01:39.120
he wouldn't think to like, to think to do those things for me. Cause he just wasn't really
02:01:45.340
romantic. But I mean, like, I don't know. He's young too. And like, I honestly love, like
02:01:52.940
I loved him like, and I love him a lot, but I'm just not like really looking to
02:02:02.000
find love right now because it's just making me more broke. Like I need to like focus on myself.
02:02:08.900
And then once I have my money up, then I can like look for love or whatever. But also even when I
02:02:15.100
do find someone to marry, they have to be like connected with their self, with their soul,
02:02:22.860
with everything. And also make that amount of money. Like you can't have both people who say
02:02:28.000
like, Oh, you're just a gold digger. No, I'm also looking for real connection and, and the
02:02:33.540
financial part. Like you can have both. I know people have both. My mom has both. My aunt has
02:02:38.540
both. My sisters have both. You can find love and financial support. Don't let anyone tell you
02:02:44.900
that. How many sisters do you have? I have four. Uh, ages. We're all two years apart and I'm the
02:02:52.300
youngest girl. Oh, you're the, okay. So they're all older than you. Do they also finesse? No. None
02:02:58.360
of them? Just you? Yeah. None of them have like sugar daddies or whatever. Okay. Can I ask you a
02:03:04.920
question about finessing? Yes. Do they, the men you do this to, they get really mad when you do that?
02:03:11.040
No. Okay. Cause you might, I don't want to sound rude or anything, but you might want to be careful
02:03:17.220
because at the very least, if they don't get aggressive, they may demand legal action and that
02:03:22.500
could be quite, that would, that wouldn't be good for you. So you may want to be careful. It's more
02:03:26.720
of just like, they're choosing to give me this money. No one's asking them to. And like, I tell
02:03:32.120
them what I want and they give it to me and that's their choice. So if you want to spoil me, that's on
02:03:37.220
you. I don't have a sugar daddy, but I would say that most of the time, and I've never had one,
02:03:42.480
but from the experience, I don't have a sugar daddy, but from my friend's experiences of having
02:03:47.640
sugar daddies, they come up to them and they want to give them money. Like it almost like feeds their
02:03:53.440
ego to give them money. So when you say finesse, what do you mean? Because when I think of finesse,
02:03:57.920
I think like, that's just the word she's using. She's really not finessing. She's really,
02:04:04.560
they're giving her the money. And I am basically selling them a fantasy and that's all it is.
02:04:13.180
What's the fantasy? That I, that I'm interested in them. But you're not. No. Okay. And so you
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would say, Hey baby, can you pay for my rent? Can you buy for my F? Or like, Oh my gosh, this dress
02:04:27.540
would look so good on me. Like, let's, let's go shopping for dinner. I want to go on a date with
02:04:32.720
you. I need an outfit for the date. Bam outfit. Oh, I, I need to, you know, drive up to see my
02:04:38.820
family. I need a new car. Bam, new car. Oh, I need to come up and see you. I need a new car.
02:04:44.320
A guy bought you a car? He like helped me fix it, but I already had a car that I bought myself. But
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like, you know, it's stuff like that. Like, Oh, I need this for you. But would you describe yourself
02:04:55.300
as ever having scammed a guy? Scammed? Like a scammer. No. Cause you said you would accept
02:05:03.980
flights out to locations under the assumption that you would be meeting these guys, but then
02:05:09.640
you would just make up an excuse and not meet them. Yeah. You've done that. Yeah. Have you done
02:05:15.500
anything else similar to that? Not really. I really just lied to them. I'm not like scamming
02:05:21.500
them or taking their credit cards or whatever. Like everything they give to me, they, they
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are giving. But you lie to them. You, what, what is the lie that you're telling them? That
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I like them or that I'll see them ever. But you want to be in a relationship with them,
02:05:35.060
right? Like, well, sometimes there's a understanding that like, I'm not going to fall in love with
02:05:41.120
you. They just want my company around them and men will pay for that. Do you meet them in
02:05:46.980
person? Sometimes, but just dinner. Like it's always just dinner. Have you ever had any hookups
02:05:52.760
with any of them? No. None of them? No. They literally. 10,000 a month and. Yes. They just.
02:05:57.400
They, there are pay pigs that want you to take their money. How old are they typically? Are
02:06:00.400
they like way older guys or? Yeah. They're like 50. In their fifties. Okay. So you just get dinner?
02:06:06.660
They have nothing to do with their money and they want to like say that they gave me that. They want to,
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they also, some men are into you draining their bank accounts. They'll, they're like, please,
02:06:19.020
please drain my bank accounts. You're talking about fin, findom now. Yeah. Like pay pigs and all of
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that. Like. Okay. Men are weird. Might as well capitalize off of it. But, but so you are telling
02:06:29.200
them basically that you're into them, but you're not. Okay. Don't you think that's kind of creepy?
02:06:36.920
It's creepy of them to want 23 year old when they're 15. Why would that? Well, hold on. Now we're in an age gap
02:06:41.220
territory, but don't you think, you know, you're doing a romance scam? No, they know that I will
02:06:47.220
never love them. They know. Well, hold on. But you said you lie to them. You said you, you lie to them
02:06:52.960
and you say that you, you express that you're interested in them, but you're not so that you
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can confer financial benefit. That's a romance scam. Not really. Like they want me to hang out around
02:07:05.480
them. That's what they just want. No, but you said, but you said you lie to them. You finesse them.
02:07:10.380
Like I lie saying, I think they're attractive, but they know I will never fall in love with them
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or marry them or like be in a relationship. Okay. Let's cut through the bullshit. Let's,
02:07:18.380
let's be clear here. You lead them on. You make them think that you're into them for maybe something
02:07:24.560
more than just, you know, the dinner or whatever. You say, I, you know, I'll know exactly verbatim what
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you say, but you, you will express some interest in developing some sort of relationship, but you
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don't, you don't want that. That's misleading. Don't you think? It is. Do you think that that's
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virtuous? Um, I think that the fact that these older men even like are preying on me, like
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preying on you. It sounds like the reverse. Yes. Kind of sounds like you're preying on them.
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We're preying on each other. It's a win-win. Why? I don't know how they'd be preying on you.
02:08:00.600
Because I'm clearly a lot younger. Like when they were 30, you're an adult, you're 23. Yes. But
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when I was, your frontal lobe is fully developed basically. When they were 30, I was literally
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like 13. So still it's, you're adults now, you want a young girl. Men want a young girl. They want
02:08:19.660
them to be, you know, tight and right. And I don't even, I don't get this logic. Hold on really
02:08:24.440
quick. I don't understand. Wait, wait, one thing, one thing. I got to ask you, I don't understand this
02:08:28.000
logic. Okay. So would you object to like a 45 year old dating a 35 year old? 45, 35. Do you
02:08:36.620
object to that? 10 years is fine. But it's like when you're literally like. No, no, no. But hold
02:08:40.880
on. When he was 20, she was 10. Okay. But I'm just. So it's like, it's the age they're at now.
02:08:47.080
You have like 20 years of an adult and like of them being a child. It's just like a little much.
02:08:52.980
But hold on. When, when a 45 year old dating a 35 year old, when he was 20, she was 10.
02:09:00.000
Sure. So the logic doesn't. No, but I don't, I don't think it for a 35 and a 45 year old
02:09:05.240
to date. I don't think that's weird. That's. I don't think that's their own. I mean, their
02:09:11.960
frontal lobes are fully also developed and they have some life experience.
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Exactly. I was about to say. But she's 23. The frontal lobes developed. I know. I'm a baby.
02:09:19.200
So like. You're not a baby? I think it's developing. Bro, this is massive. Okay. You're two years
02:09:24.120
away. It goes like this. I think it developed from 23 to 24 for girls. But for women to be
02:09:28.520
serious. So she's still. She's in the phase. She's still. She's good. She's growing. We're still
02:09:32.660
learning. We still have so much life to live. Wait, wait, wait. By the way. Compared to a 35 year
02:09:36.660
old? As you age, your cognitive abilities actually start to decline. So this idea. But at what age
02:09:42.860
do they start to decline? Oh, probably 40s and 50s. Exactly. So that has no relevance
02:09:46.460
to that. It's absolutely relevant. But in any case, I don't even buy into this bullshit
02:09:51.000
prefrontal cortex nonsense. You're the one that brought it up. So I'm just going with
02:09:56.100
it. Right. But what I'm saying is she's 23. She's an adult. They're not preying on you.
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You're not a baby. You're an adult woman. Yes. But they could definitely go after someone
02:10:07.660
that's like a grown woman, like 30. You're a grown woman. No, my frontal cortex is not
02:10:13.520
developed. So why not tell them that? So why engage in this? Why not tell them that then?
02:10:18.100
Say, hey, you can go with someone else. Because I'm not trying to be in a relationship with
02:10:21.760
them. Like I'm strictly, they want me to be young and hot around them. Okay. Well, that's
02:10:27.600
not for free. Then I want your money. When you say they're preying on you because you're
02:10:32.720
23. I mean, how are they preying? What about them? What about what they're doing? They only
02:10:39.680
want me around because I'm 23. They don't care about like me and my, like, yeah. What if they
02:10:48.620
just think you're attractive? Yes. But it's like, they don't even like, they care more about my age
02:10:55.520
than they do if I'm attractive. Like they like that I'm young. So you're an adult. You're 23.
02:11:02.060
Yes. But like as a 60 year old man, you don't need to be with a 23 year old. Well, nothing
02:11:08.280
forces 23 year old women to date 60 year olds. But it occurs to me if you're engaging in a
02:11:14.540
romance scam that you're saying, you're trying to justify your conduct because they're older.
02:11:22.240
So nothing forces, you don't have to date these older men. Right. Or be involved with them. But
02:11:28.700
you're just saying, you know what? They're, they're creepy old men. So fuck them. I'm
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going to, I'm going to finesse their money. Yes, basically.
02:11:38.700
Oh boy. It's a win-win for both. Guys, we're. It's a win-win for both. How's it a win-win?
02:11:44.120
Because they don't get any. First off. They get to have a young, hot person next to them. Oh,
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next. Oh my God. What the fuck? When no one would regularly. I just get to talk to a girl. No one
02:11:52.280
would want to. Sign me up. Fuck that shit. Oh my God. You'd have to pay me to just, you'd
02:11:58.980
have to pay it. I don't know. Maybe who knows how I'm going to be at fucking 50. At 50, you'd
02:12:04.360
have to pay me to just, just kick it with a 23. Oh, we're just, I just have to pay for
02:12:09.500
all your shit and take you to an expensive dinner. Fuck that shit. I ain't doing it. Well,
02:12:15.120
that's good. I would. That's your choice. Yeah. These guys are simps. I mean, to be clear,
02:12:20.080
they're incels. I want to say something. Look, I criticize what the women do, but these fucking
02:12:26.500
older guys are the biggest fucking simps ever. The guys that do this. They're incels. They're not
02:12:31.640
simps. They're incels. Like no women want them. So are they creepy? I don't know. I don't know if
02:12:38.140
they're creepy. I think it's pathetic though. I think it's pathetic to spend 10, $10,000 a month on a
02:12:44.020
chick. Uh, and not be fucking her. Like, first off, you shouldn't, even if you're fucking
02:12:49.660
her, you don't got to drop 10,000 to fucking like, come on, bro. Yeah. They want to fucking
02:12:55.660
big L ruining the dating pool. Imagine being like some fresh out of college, like normal
02:13:01.300
23 year old dude. And like this, her, you're trying to date her. And she's like, well, all
02:13:06.800
these, all these dudes are, are, uh, giving me 10,000 a month. It's like the fuck I make like
02:13:13.580
four K a month. What the fuck? Here's the thing. I chose my man when I was with him.
02:13:18.460
I chose love. Nepo baby. I chose love. Super famous father, by the way. Nepo baby, by the
02:13:23.740
way. I chose love over, I could have had multiple sugar daddies and like, you know, been up, but
02:13:29.840
I chose to be with him. Oh, so romantic. You could choose. And I chose love and I got fucking
02:13:37.380
hurt. You are such a romantic letting all these, putting aside all these sugar daddies who you're
02:13:43.560
finessing. And then you dated a really famous dude, son in Hollywood. It's really just, it's
02:13:50.780
romance. It's so romantic. Um, I know it is. Wait, so, okay, hold on. Let's get back to this
02:13:57.840
20 million thing though. You want a guy, minimum yearly income, $20 million. Uh, I was asking
02:14:04.640
you what you do for work. You say you make $80,000 a year just from your own income. What
02:14:10.300
are you going to be doing in five years, 10 years? That's making you 10 to $20 million
02:14:15.380
a year. Multiple things. Um, so I have like my music, that route, um, engineering, DJing,
02:14:24.940
but eventually I want to just go into engineering. So, you know, and I'm starting to work and be
02:14:31.460
around like a lot of well-known artists. I'm not going to name drop, but yeah. So there's
02:14:38.040
the music route. And then I, me and my friends were also creating a production company and
02:14:44.040
we all do something different. You know, we all do styling, modeling, but we all are coming
02:14:49.340
together and creating a production company. And then I also have, um, a club that me and
02:14:56.620
my best friend are opening up. Um, I just have like a lot of different avenues and yeah.
02:15:03.920
Um, and all of these sugar daddies are funding it. All right. Um, and then I'm going to address
02:15:11.640
that really quick, but you also want a guy who makes 10 to $20 million a year. You do
02:15:15.740
music. So I do a lot of things. Um, but how much do you make currently? I would say like
02:15:21.200
6,000 a month, 7,000 on a good month, 10,000 on a good month. Okay. 70 to 80,000 a year.
02:15:28.340
Okay. So you said that, well, I'm going to get this kind of man because I'm going to make
02:15:32.860
this much money. What are you going to be doing in five years, 10 years? I am going to
02:15:36.960
be full on, um, investing my money. I already invest. I started investing at 18 years old.
02:15:42.360
What do you invest in? Um, I invest, so I have a Roth IRA that I opened up when I was 18
02:15:47.060
that I have index fund. Yeah. So that's, that's just, that was just in case, you know, I didn't
02:15:53.280
get money other, but to in the United States, in California, if you want to live a certain
02:15:58.620
life, you have to have a bunch of income. So that's what I'm doing. And I'm starting
02:16:01.860
since 18, I started building different forms of income. Now I have about four, but I will
02:16:06.840
have by that time, I will have 10, 15, et cetera. That's how I'm going to get my money
02:16:11.800
because I'm going to invest. I'm going to open up businesses. I'm already saving some
02:16:15.240
money to open up my first business. I'm going to get the money because I am going to invest
02:16:20.200
some money and et cetera. And you're going to, you, you don't think, you know, you're
02:16:26.580
going to make 10 to 20 million a year. Yeah. And then in the future, for sure. Cause like
02:16:31.740
also just a bunch of businesses and music. Yeah. Yeah. You don't know us personally, but
02:16:38.580
you don't know my drive. I'm a betting man. I'm a betting man. I would love to have like
02:16:46.440
a 10 year bet and be like, and no, for real, like for real. Cause you just don't, I don't
02:16:53.040
like, you don't know us. Let's do it. And you don't know the group of people that we're
02:16:57.020
with. I think we should. Okay. Here, here's my, here's my rapid proposal. Uh, 10 years
02:17:01.880
time. 10 years. Is that fair? 23, 30. I would say by 40. No, no, no, no. That's too
02:17:06.580
long. 10 years. 10 years. I would say by 30 to be honest. Okay. So here's the, here's the
02:17:09.920
proposal, right? Uh, you guys have to be making, we'll split the difference. 15 million a year,
02:17:16.620
15 million a year. Uh, and we'll wager a million dollars. So, so if, if you guys are making 15
02:17:28.720
million dollars a year, I want to do 10 because I said, Oh, your confidence is, uh, no, it's
02:17:34.280
not. I had, I've been saying 10. I literally said, when you said 20, I said, I changed it to
02:17:38.780
a 10. And then you said, okay. I said, okay. I'll take the bet. I won't even change anything.
02:17:42.920
Cool. If you're making 10 million a year, you're making 10 million a year. I'll bet each
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of you individually. I'll wager a million dollars. I'll wager a million dollars that neither of
02:17:52.540
you will be making that much. And you can't, by the way, I, there's gotta be some carve outs
02:17:56.740
here. Uh, I want to carve out sex work from it. You can't be sex workers. Why? I'm not
02:18:04.600
a sex worker. Oh, you have, you have ambitions to be a sex worker. No, I'm just saying
02:18:08.140
why. Well, because you're saying, look, I think perhaps it's even dubious. The money
02:18:15.020
has to be earned through a business, like your, your business endeavor, right? So you
02:18:21.800
can't just have some simp sugar daddy give you 10 million dollars or something.
02:18:27.040
What if she does and she gets it? That's the money. You're mad that it's that easy for
02:18:30.700
me. That has, that would have, first off, I would probably still take that bet. Cause I'm,
02:18:34.560
I doubt you would, even if you were a sex worker, you would make 10 million a year,
02:18:38.020
but I'm carving that out. Carving it out has to be through, cause you guys, everything you
02:18:44.140
listed for how you're going to make the money had nothing to do with sex work, right? So
02:18:47.940
that's the, that's the only carve out, but you can make any other industry. You make that
02:18:52.580
much. You have to prove it. You have to show me the finances. If I lose, you get a million.
02:18:57.680
If I win, I get a million. And if you're not making that much money, trust me, that's going
02:19:04.160
to really financially fuck you guys over quite a bit. I would assume, I mean, I don't know
02:19:09.400
shit. Um, but, uh, you guys willing to take that wager? It, would that even be legally binding
02:19:16.520
this wager? Is it legally binding? I don't know. Chat? Chat, can we, I don't know. We need
02:19:24.000
a fucking attorney. You need a napkin to sign it. Yeah. Sign it in blood. Oh, I, I get
02:19:29.680
10 million? Do I get more? Huh? Do I get more as the, I don't know. Should just be one
02:19:36.820
mil across the board? Yeah. Um, so, but just to be clear, if, if this is, if we can make
02:19:48.140
this a legally binding contract. If we can make it legally binding, I, I want to write down
02:19:53.180
some specific things too. What would the specific things be? Um, well, I mean, honestly, I need
02:20:00.540
to, I need to do more reading on like contracts and like legal aspects because I want to know
02:20:06.620
a hundred percent, like everything. And then I'll sign it. Oh, it's just super simple. If
02:20:11.160
you make 10 million, I'll give you guys each a million dollars. Well, one, you make 10 million,
02:20:17.900
I give you a mil, you make 10 million. Like it can't, it's not a group project. Uh, but
02:20:22.320
like the sugar daddies are funding my, that's part of her income. That's literally what's
02:20:28.640
going to fund, what's going to make me this money. That's so yeah, that's just what it
02:20:35.780
is. Yeah. But like there, there has to be some carve out where like some guy can't just
02:20:39.880
like, okay, year 10, here's 10 mil. So you don't let me loan you 10 million. Like you
02:20:46.060
have to prove your source of income beyond just some guy like bailing you out of the
02:20:51.200
contract. It has to be like, okay, well I've been earning this much. So you guys willing
02:20:59.020
to take the essence of the wager? You pay me a million dollars in 10 years. If you're
02:21:04.800
not making 10 mil. Oh, in 10 years. Yeah. Let's do it. Realistically, easiest $2 million
02:21:11.260
I've ever made. I never, realistically, I would say I'm going to make my first 10 mil
02:21:16.400
at 40. I think that's the age I'm going to make it because of my investments and because
02:21:20.660
of the trajectory of everything, because I don't have a sugar daddy. I don't have that.
02:21:24.400
I'm going to, I have to like, I have to, I have to invest my money. I have to wait for
02:21:27.920
it to come up. But if you want to do it, I'm down for when I'm 40. Cause that's, I'm
02:21:32.020
23. That's 17 years. I'll get to my point. We know each other. I'll just get to my point.
02:21:36.240
I'll get to my point. You want a guy who makes 10 to 20 mil. You want a guy who makes
02:21:40.660
10 to 20 mil. I'm not going to get married anytime soon. Your justification. I'm going
02:21:44.160
to make this much. Neither of you, I'm not saying this, you're not going to end up making
02:21:49.460
this much money and you're not, you're not, and not only that, not only that, you're not
02:21:55.040
going to find a guy who makes that much money to date you. That's a lie. Cause I literally
02:22:01.300
already have. Where's who? You don't know him. He's not famous and it's not the Nebo
02:22:06.980
baby. I've dated people. I've dated people previous to him. Hold on. I get that these
02:22:16.600
guys will fuck you. They'll keep you around for a couple months, whatever. I'm talking
02:22:21.140
when I say you won't get that guy, I'm talking long term commitment. I've been, I was with
02:22:26.700
him long term. You've spent what? I was with him long term. You spent hours. Is that what
02:22:32.480
you said? I said I was with him long term. Did anybody else hear something spent hours
02:22:37.320
with him? Long term. I was with him for almost two years and he made that. So you've had two
02:22:46.040
two year relationships. Okay. I've actually had three. Okay. But so it ended? Yeah. Okay.
02:22:53.900
You're not congrats. You're not with him. I'm just saying you said I could never get
02:22:56.720
that. I've already gotten that before. So what I'm talking about is do you want to
02:23:01.680
get married? Maybe. Okay. I'm not talking about some dude you dated. When I'm talking
02:23:07.520
long term, I'm talking like that's the dude you settled down with and have kids
02:23:11.800
with. I don't know if you want kids, but. Why would you say like, cause that man wanted
02:23:19.280
to marry me and that's why I broke up with him. So what makes you think I can't do that
02:23:22.980
again? Uh, wait, how old was he? He was like 10 years older than me. He was like 32. Oh
02:23:32.420
wait, why were you dating a guy that you would describe as predatory? Not for me. How old
02:23:37.980
were you when you were dating him? 19? Whoa. Wait, it's weird for like, okay. I mean, I don't
02:23:45.220
know. You would think that's predatory it seems. No. Oh, okay. I never said that. So you
02:23:51.080
guys were in a monogamous long-term relationship. But he obviously was ready
02:23:58.280
for marriage and he was making, just to be clear, 33 year olds who is making 10 to
02:24:02.560
20 million a year. Yes. That's very possible. That's not, hold on. It is. It's possible,
02:24:08.660
but it's not probable. He had like old money. Like his family gave him like the businesses
02:24:13.900
and that ran everything. But it's possible. We had, we had love, it was like a trucking
02:24:20.800
company, oil, like all that. He's Middle Eastern. The oil company. The oil company is where it's
02:24:27.680
in. It has a lot of money. Get yourself an oil, man. For sure. I don't, look, you dated
02:24:33.800
him. That's cool. I don't see the ring. Exactly. I think it's. I don't want it. But that what's
02:24:39.180
like, what's the same? I can't have that again. Why would you say that to me? But if you don't
02:24:43.760
want that guy, how many men do you come across that make 10 to 20 million a year? There's
02:24:48.080
a lot in New York. You just have to travel. Okay. There's not. There are. There's not a lot
02:24:52.800
of men who make 10 to 20 million a year. There is. There isn't. There is though. In
02:24:57.080
New York, yes, there is. What's the percent? What's the percent? Look it up. Just to,
02:25:03.220
okay. So. But there is. To be in the top 1%, 1% is over 500,000. What you're talking about
02:25:15.920
is 0.0001% of men. So it's not a lot of men. I'm just saying I'm around a lot of rich men
02:25:24.780
because I just know where to find them. And there's a lot of them. Yeah. But how do you
02:25:29.280
know that they want you for long term? Look, don't confuse lust. Because I'm literally wifey
02:25:34.460
and I'm hotter than them. You're wifey? You think you're wifey? A lot of women come on
02:25:39.300
though. And they say the same, the same thing. So they must all be hanging out around the
02:25:42.960
same men. Right? So the guy is not really looking for. I'm not sure. I find my men all
02:25:49.420
over. It's not just in one area. But there's not a lot. In between your sugar, 10 sugar daddy
02:25:54.880
finessing sessions, you're, you're also wifey. No. What makes you wifey? I'm not wifey to
02:26:01.360
my sugar daddy. No, no. What I'm saying is. To a husband or a boyfriend. I feel like it's
02:26:05.780
a contradiction. So on one hand, you're involved in low tier sex work. You're being a sugar
02:26:12.040
baby. And you're, you know, when you're single, you're a sugar baby. You're finessing these
02:26:16.700
dudes scamming romance scams. But you're also wifey material. Women who have sugar daddies,
02:26:25.500
I think, remove themselves from being construed or viewed as wife material. That's not wife
02:26:33.940
material behavior. You can pick and choose. You can't turn a hoe into a housewife. I'm not
02:26:37.840
being a hoe. It's hoe. It's kind of hoeing. But I'm not though, because they just want
02:26:43.180
my presence. And I understand. Pay for it. Right. But it's low virtue conduct. So I, I,
02:26:49.300
I'm not saying that you're sleeping. I'm just saying I can choose. You're not sleeping with
02:26:54.280
wifeyness to. But not all these men deserve my wifey. What is wifey? What does that mean to
02:26:58.960
be wifey? To basically be their right hand man, to be the person they can come to, to,
02:27:06.040
you know, be vulnerable with a safe place, a home in a person. When I have a man, I love
02:27:13.420
to cook for them. I love to teach them how to cook. I love to do spiritual things with
02:27:19.740
them, like connect with them on a deeper level. I love to grow together. It's someone I want
02:27:25.300
to grow with. And like, I actually give effort and time to rather than how I would treat like
02:27:31.140
these sugar daddies. I would do anything for them. I constantly am romantic to them, constantly
02:27:37.720
lifting them up. Um, I'm, I'm just basically like adding on to their life. I'm not taking
02:27:45.660
away. I'm not, you know, making their life, but I'm adding on to it as they are to me. And
02:27:52.000
it's very much deeper and more spiritual for me, like rather than a sugar daddy. Like
02:27:57.220
I'm not going to get deep with the sugar daddy. They're there for sugar and that's it. Hold
02:28:00.880
on. I'll address this in just a sec. The only good man donated $200. We've barely heard from
02:28:07.280
chair seven, but my guess is she would never under any circumstances have a sugar daddy that
02:28:12.560
alone makes her the most attractive woman on the panel.
02:28:15.460
That's you, by the way, if you have a quick response or anything, I appreciate that. So
02:28:22.780
my, my question to you, cause I've listened to this and you just went through, um, your
02:28:27.320
definition of wifey. And from what I'm hearing is you're saying that that's where you had like
02:28:34.520
the most, like, it was just wonderful for you. That's where you felt alive. You felt like
02:28:38.540
you were a woman. So if you, if you value wifey so much, can you give up the sugar daddy
02:28:45.300
now so you can continue to develop into the wifey material so that you are the best version
02:28:50.660
of yourself? Because it takes time. It takes time to develop that. And if you're saying,
02:28:54.820
I don't want to get married right now. Well, you know, during that whole process of my husband
02:28:59.400
being separated from me, I retrained myself. How do I become a better wife? How do I be there
02:29:04.980
for my man? Like, and that was over three years. So at what point in time are you going to sit
02:29:10.720
there and say, okay, I'm going to drop off sugar daddy because I find more value in wifey and I'm
02:29:14.720
going to start developing now. Well, I've been doing that. I've had like multiple relationships
02:29:20.760
that were two years and it's just like, all I've done, all I've gotten from that is yeah,
02:29:27.220
some experience, but also I've lost myself. I gave all my energy to them and got nothing in return.
02:29:34.100
And it's just like, I need to focus on me because no one's going to do it for me, but me. So I,
02:29:42.060
until I find someone that's husband material, I'm not going to treat them like a husband, like,
02:29:48.520
you know, and also I can't afford to like be in love right now. Like I need to focus on my ambitions
02:29:57.220
and until, you know, I'm, I want to become the best version of myself. Also, I told myself I
02:30:04.080
wouldn't get into a relationship if I'm not like the, my higher self. And so until then,
02:30:11.180
I just don't really want to pick up the wifey duties because I've been doing that. And like,
02:30:16.780
I don't think men should do husband duties until he's actually a husband. Men shouldn't protect,
02:30:23.320
men shouldn't provide, they shouldn't pay for first dates. Under your logic, you think that
02:30:28.640
that makes sense? Like men shouldn't pay for first dates until she's the wife? Well, I think that your
02:30:33.500
first date is the, your opportunity to show her what you can provide for her. And this also apply
02:30:39.980
to women then. So shouldn't you be doing the wifey duties? No, I don't want to provide financially
02:30:43.720
for a man. No, no, I'm not talking about you doing the male role, but you said you don't want
02:30:47.560
to do the, the, the female roles, the wifely, wifely duties until you're actually married. Why can't
02:30:53.680
men say? No, not married, more like in a relationship. You're waiting until you're in a, you're waiting
02:30:59.240
until you're in a relationship. Okay. Well, the same could apply to men then. Uh, until you're in a
02:31:03.940
relationship, until you have commitment from the girl, you shouldn't pay for dates. You shouldn't. Well,
02:31:08.340
you're going to show her you can provide nothing for her. So why would she want you? Well, the same
02:31:12.560
can be said towards women. You show that you're not submissive. You show that you don't do any of
02:31:17.300
the more traditional female gender roles until you're in a relationship. Why should the man get
02:31:21.720
into a relationship with you? Well, he shouldn't, but that's like very different than showing you can
02:31:27.860
provide or protect for a woman. Like both, both people should see, are these people promiscuous?
02:31:34.540
Like both parties should find out that, but like, as far as a man providing and like, if
02:31:42.100
you're not, if you think that you're the princess, then you're not going to have a princess. You
02:31:46.880
can be single for the rest of your life. We're going to let Felicity, you're going to read
02:31:50.760
these chats. Okay. Chair one, majority of men are creeps. Also, I want 10 K a month from sugar
02:31:56.680
daddies. Chair two, these doctors and lawyers are why Brian gets such quality clips. These girls
02:32:02.140
are toaster brain. Oh, wow. Okay. Thank you, Nico. Appreciate it. We have another one coming
02:32:08.000
through from Victor. Thank you, Victor. Thank you, Nico. Ladies, the average earned salary
02:32:14.600
in the U S is 65 K per year. If you're a perfect man was earning 90 K per year, would you marry
02:32:20.440
him? Uh, for the women who said 20 mil, 20 mil, would you marry a guy? I said 10, but okay.
02:32:28.520
10, would you marry a guy who makes 90,000 a year? No. Perfect though. I don't think so.
02:32:35.080
Uh, I think you said 400,000. Would you marry? Yeah. What about you? 90,000 a year? It's
02:32:41.560
perfect. Perfect. Yeah. Okay. Um, so he's a 10, but he makes 90 K. Yes or no? No. Yo, Grant.
02:32:50.880
No. Uh, by the way, some of them came through earlier just as displays. Thank you guys. A couple
02:32:56.560
of you bought some t-shirts, bought some merch shop.whatever.com. Thank you guys. Appreciate
02:33:01.500
it. You can have a little display pop up like grants just popped up there and let's do some
02:33:05.840
quick shout outs really quick. Nick, since we're here guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever
02:33:09.620
drop us a follow and a prime sub. If you have one, Nick, can you a mouse wheel scroll up to
02:33:14.320
make it just one bigger here? Yo guys, it's been five minutes since we had a prime. I think
02:33:19.000
it's bugged boys. Can you guys drop a prime sub test it out? Thank you guys. Appreciate
02:33:22.320
it. Support us over there on Twitch. Uh, just, oh yeah. Uh, Venmo cash app, whatever pod, uh,
02:33:30.560
show us the Venmo too. Let me shout people out. Uh, let's see. We have Caleb. Thank you
02:33:36.080
for the 25 on Venmo. Rudy. Thank you for the five on cash app. Thank you guys. Really appreciate
02:33:40.840
it. Thank you. Thank you. All right. So, um, a couple of things here I wanted to dive into
02:33:45.460
here. Anonymous thing for the gifted five subs. Uh, hold on. We needed to do. Okay. Uh,
02:33:56.700
do you think you'll meet a guy you'll, the guy you end up with, you think he'll make 10
02:34:00.380
to 20 mil? You know, if he doesn't, and I'm making that money, then yes, he will, because
02:34:06.260
I'm going to put him on and I'm going to show him the ways and we're going to make it together
02:34:10.360
if I'm making it. Look, I'm not, I'm not trying to be like a buzzkill party pooper or whatever.
02:34:15.460
To make 10 to 20 mil, that's a lot of money. Yeah. That's very ambitious. I don't even
02:34:23.080
think like I'm ambitious. I do well. I'm financially successful. I don't think I'm going to make 10
02:34:29.960
to 20 mil a year. I think you definitely could. You could. I think you definitely could. And
02:34:36.960
I don't think so. I mean, look, it's mindset over everything. Look, hold on. I'm, I'm still
02:34:44.580
going to work hard, but I don't think it's like a limiting belief. I mean, people might
02:34:49.580
say, well, by definition, it's a limiting belief, but I think it's a pragmatic belief. I think
02:34:53.700
it's a realistic belief. It's like, look, knowing what we know about how much the average person
02:35:01.800
earns. But we're not the average person. You don't know us. You don't know who we're around.
02:35:09.380
There's a statistic that says 68% of the people in the United States live paycheck to paycheck.
02:35:14.960
We're also not planning to live here much longer. Like we're not going to live in the
02:35:19.400
U.S. Wait, where are you moving to? Dubai. I mean, Dubai is great, but honestly, my family
02:35:26.820
has like an island in Costa Rica and I'm trying to go there. Your family has a, okay. I'm sure
02:35:32.880
the, the earnings potential of people in Costa Rica is way lower than like what people earn
02:35:38.520
in the United States. Exactly. I'm going to live there, but. Yeah. Well, our bet still
02:35:42.420
has to be 20 million USD. Yeah. It can't be like Costa Rican currency or whatever. Can
02:35:48.520
we just look up, I'm actually curious, look up the percentage of how many people make over
02:35:52.020
10 million. Yeah. Nick, just chat GPT it. Men, men. You can just open the chat, chat GPT.com.
02:35:57.160
Uh, what percentage of men make, let's just say 10 mil. Yeah. Probably only men. 10 mil
02:36:03.780
per year. It's going to be 0.000 something. In the world though, I don't plan on finding
02:36:11.200
my men in America. Well, wouldn't that lower your chances? The richest people are in the
02:36:15.980
United States. Dubai. Okay. Well, fine. Go to Dubai. I'm definitely going to Dubai. You
02:36:19.920
really want to live in Dubai? Okay. Yeah. Go ahead. Pull it up. Live in Dubai. Uh, make
02:36:24.520
it bigger. Mouse wheel scroll. That's good. That's actually more than I thought. Can you
02:36:29.280
read it? Felicity. About 27,000 households out of hundreds of millions. It's very rare.
02:36:34.760
According to IRS data, in the U.S., there are about 27,000 households out of hundreds of
02:36:40.260
millions that report incomes over $10 million per year. And I was thinking, what about people
02:36:42.880
that don't report? Exactly. Okay. Great. We all have to report. That works out to about
02:36:49.920
0.02% all tax returns. Now, mind you though, mind you, this is calculating for all men. This
02:36:58.920
is married 70 year olds, married 60 year olds, married 30, 30, 40, 50 year olds, people married.
02:37:06.680
It's including, uh, men who you think are creepy and weird. It's including men who are gay. It's
02:37:13.040
including men you're not going to be attracted to. So if we factor in all these other things,
02:37:17.840
then the, it just, it, it's like three dudes. There's like three dudes out there who, who'd
02:37:23.680
be down for this shit, but he won't be American though. Yeah. You don't X that. Um, but, uh,
02:37:30.600
what, what was it? Um, I don't look, I'm not trying to be a dick, but I don't think you guys are
02:37:38.660
going to make this much money. That's okay. I don't know. And I don't think, I don't know which
02:37:43.480
one's more unlikely. I think it's more, okay. You guys aren't going to make that much money.
02:37:48.440
You're not going to end up with a guy who makes that much money either. If I, I'm not saying I
02:37:54.900
will, I don't, I don't, the possibility I want to, this is my goal, but I don't, I'm, I'm, I might
02:37:59.880
not even meet that person. I might not even get married. I'm on the fence about if I want kids
02:38:04.600
right now. So you just, I mean, that's fine, but you just, but I will make that money myself for
02:38:09.900
like the person that you want to spend your life with. One of the criteria is 10 million.
02:38:17.300
No, it's just great to like have, like have those goals because I know that if I can do
02:38:22.100
it, there's other people in the world that can do it too. But what's wrong with just being
02:38:26.200
realistic? There's nothing, there's nothing wrong. Like this is my opinion. And why does
02:38:32.360
it affect you so much? Well, I mean, like you don't have the same ambitions that I do and
02:38:37.400
that's just it. Well, I'm probably, I'm probably more ambitious than you. I can, I don't think
02:38:42.140
so. Well, I think I can actually realize my goals. I think, look, there's plenty of people
02:38:46.940
out there who want, who, Oh, it'd be great to be a billionaire, but they don't actually
02:38:51.180
have the wherewithal and the, the hustle to actually get there. You don't know us and
02:38:57.280
you don't know who we know and you don't know who we, you know, are friends with. You
02:39:01.700
just don't know us. I don't know you guys, but I mean, I'm a, again, I'm a betting
02:39:05.520
man. I don't think you guys are gonna, you're not going to do it. I'm not, you
02:39:09.480
guys might be successful. I will have 10 million. You guys, what's that? By the time
02:39:13.160
you're 40? I will have touched 10 million. Per year. You'll make 10 mil per year. No,
02:39:17.020
I will have 10 million. Hold on. That net worth is different than yearly income.
02:39:24.520
Like I said that earlier. Okay. Um, the, I mean, I'm still, I'm still thinking it's very
02:39:33.460
unlikely. You will have a 10 million net worth by 40. I think it's unlikely. I think it's
02:39:40.680
unlikely. And I think, uh, I mean, yearly income, 10 million a year. That's crazy.
02:39:48.060
No. Yeah. That's honestly, I, I read that a little wrong. Well, you're walking back your
02:39:52.260
position. No, I still think it's possible. I definitely think it's possible. Anything is
02:39:56.200
possible. If other people have done it before, then what's stopping me from doing it?
02:39:59.600
But this idea that anything is possible, it's possible. Like it's possible. I could have
02:40:04.860
like a, an eight sum with all of you right now. Like it's possible.
02:40:08.820
It's not possible. It's possible. It's possible. It's possible. We could end this stream right
02:40:22.220
now and we could just have a fucking orgy. It's possible. It's very unprobable though.
02:40:27.520
Very low probability. Because I would have to say the okay. Nobody would say the okay to that. So
02:40:33.760
it's not possible. No, but never say it's possible. It's not possible. You can just be so in the next
02:40:38.780
hour, you're so overwhelmed by my charm that you're like, you know what, Brian, I guess I'll
02:40:43.060
fuck you. Like, you know, it could happen. Maybe it's a pity orgy. Okay. Maybe it's a pity orgy
02:40:47.380
fuck. Okay. So anyways, look, I'm just saying, by the way, I, I only like to let down one woman
02:40:54.020
at a time. Okay. So don't worry. I don't want to, I don't want to have an orgy. Okay. I only
02:40:57.080
disappoint one woman at a time. How noble of you. Yeah. So anyways, huh? That's so nice.
02:41:03.160
It's very considerate. It's so romantic, right? Yeah.
02:41:09.080
I'm a romantic guy. So anyways, uh, okay, here, uh, I wanted to come back or wait, hold
02:41:15.580
on. You want a guy who makes a million a year? Yeah. You've been listening to this. These
02:41:20.460
girls who make, who want a guy who makes 10, uh, one mil still quite a lot. Um, what do
02:41:26.560
you do for work? I think it's a reach, but I don't think it's impossible. Well, it's not.
02:41:30.760
Okay. You know, look, it's technically possible. Like it's possible. I feel like that one's a
02:41:35.820
little more possible. Maybe it's a bit more, especially cause I live in LA. There's like
02:41:41.760
quite a few millionaires in LA. I've actually worked for millionaires and they were married
02:41:47.260
and had kids. So, and their wives were relatively close to their age as well. So I think, you
02:41:53.440
know, by the time I get married, I think it's reasonable that my husband would make a million
02:41:57.220
dollars. You know what? One time I met Adriana Lima and it it's because I met her, it's possible
02:42:05.120
that, you know, I don't know if I, would I get with her now? I don't know. I'd have to
02:42:11.600
see some photos and stuff, but you know, when I was, you know, back when she was younger,
02:42:17.320
I was younger, I met her. That must mean it's possible that I could have married her, had
02:42:26.780
children with her. But anyways, I don't understand this whole it's possible thing. Like, yeah,
02:42:31.940
it's possible that I, Brian, marry a billionaire heiress who's a virgin and like 10 out of 10,
02:42:39.320
or I don't know if there's any billionaire heiresses that are 10 out of 10. I don't know.
02:42:42.860
Whatever. It's possible. It's not probable though. You know what I mean?
02:42:49.580
The probable is definitely perspective. I think for me that is probable.
02:42:57.820
Lower your, but why would, why would you lower your standards?
02:43:02.020
Uh, if your standards are unrealistic, that's going to translate to you not being able,
02:43:10.660
It's not unrealistic because the people that work the jobs that we're trying to get into,
02:43:13.600
and if it doesn't happen, I'm okay with not getting married as well.
02:43:16.300
Okay. Let me ask you a question. Do you think every single woman in the world,
02:43:20.520
assuming the guy's a good guy, would like to date a guy who's a billionaire?
02:43:26.860
Okay. Cool. 95% of women would definitely date a billionaire.
02:43:34.720
Congrats for throwing away like generational wealth for your fucking like 30 generations.
02:43:43.960
In any case, that's fine. It wouldn't disprove my point that 95% of women would definitely date
02:43:50.220
a billionaire, assuming he's like a good guy or whatever.
02:43:59.160
That's like if you're a fucking Tupac and you're a rapper in the 90s.
02:44:03.940
Like you're going to get fucking shot up in Vegas.
02:44:19.880
Do you understand that they have so much money that they literally definitely are going
02:44:27.180
I mean, would you think it's different for someone that makes 20 mil?
02:44:33.560
I feel like it's less likely than a billionaire.
02:44:36.040
Like when I know billionaires and when they have so much money, they lose themselves and
02:44:42.140
they start spending their money on things that they shouldn't be doing with a wife.
02:45:04.160
Like not really because like, uh, at least like my uncle, he, um, is the one with the
02:45:22.000
Like, yes, I want more money so I can buy bigger things.
02:45:25.620
No, they don't have the same amount of money, but I'm saying they both have a large amount
02:45:28.620
of leftover play money so they could both get with other women.
02:45:34.720
Cause like 20 isn't that much money when you want a $10,000 or $10 million jet or a $5 million
02:45:48.260
Will you guys come back on the show in 10 years, 20 years?
02:46:10.100
Somebody in the chat right now, send a, set like a reminder in your phone for 10 years.
02:46:18.460
Be like, yo, Brian, I'm probably not even going to be, I'm not doing this shit in 10 years,
02:46:25.100
We're all going to do it 10 years, doing a reunion episode.
02:46:29.820
Email me, because I'm going to forget about this shit.
02:46:33.400
Be like, Brian, you remember those girls who were ambitious?
02:46:37.580
We're going to make 10 mil, that we're going to date guys.
02:46:40.480
I never said that, so don't put words into my mouth, because I, no, I did not.
02:46:52.240
Any type of money that I've worked for has been hard worked, and then I invest it, and
02:46:57.820
That's what I've been doing for my past five years of my life.
02:47:09.760
What would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future?
02:47:11.700
That doesn't mean that I'm saying that I make money from men.
02:47:17.620
I'm just saying, don't say that I'm a sex worker, or that I make money through men, or...
02:47:23.880
My claim was, is that you think you're going to make 10 to 20 million a year, and that
02:47:29.240
you want a guy who makes 10 to 20 million a year.
02:47:44.040
I didn't allude to you being a sex worker at all, but...
02:47:49.720
You literally said something about the men that I've talked to, or you...
02:47:54.640
And that's why I said, don't put words into my mouth.
02:47:58.660
My bet is, I don't think that you're going to make 10 to 20 million dollars a year, and I don't
02:48:03.100
think you're going to end up with a guy who makes 10 to 20 million a year.
02:48:07.180
Anyways, you want a guy who makes a million a year.
02:48:11.960
Have you ever dated a guy who makes a million a year?
02:48:25.440
Do you think that you will make a million dollars in one year ever in your life?
02:48:37.780
Okay, so then I think for what I want in my life, I'm getting into the right...
02:48:43.300
You know, if you're a millionaire right here, then I'm sure you got friends, and who knows,
02:48:48.700
maybe I'll be on other podcasts with other millionaires.
02:48:53.560
It really just depends on what people want for themselves.
02:49:05.760
Like, you're a man that's made a million dollars.
02:49:07.600
You want somebody that has that type of network.
02:49:18.620
That doesn't mean that I'm gonna end up with a rich, famous person.
02:49:24.160
Just because you've been in proximity to somebody who's rich.
02:49:36.740
Doesn't mean that they're gonna marry, like, a billionaire.
02:49:39.260
So, you would date somebody that makes less money than you.
02:49:50.380
Therefore, because I met you, I'm gonna marry...
02:49:59.700
She's saying that she's met somebody that's met...
02:50:01.820
Like, the probability of her meeting more is, like...
02:50:09.980
Do you think a woman that's never met a man who made a million dollars has more possible
02:50:20.580
So, let's say I'm a guy in my 40s and I'm a cameraman for...
02:50:55.120
If I'm a cameraman at the women's pole vaulting events, because I'm there and I'm like in their
02:51:01.320
presence, does that mean that because I'm in their presence, this opens up the opportunity
02:51:07.140
to fuck a bunch of hot pole vaulting chicks and they're like, they're all 20, like...
02:51:17.820
If I watch these YouTube videos, you know, just by virtue of me watching pole vaulting
02:51:24.040
videos of these hot Italian female pole vaulters...
02:51:28.000
Definitely increasing your chances of dating a pole vaulter.
02:51:34.780
I'm gonna fuck like an insanely fit female pole vaulter.
02:51:41.460
By the way, if there's any female pole vaulters watching the show...
02:51:52.940
Speaking about female professional athletes, I'm actually in favor of illegal immigration,
02:52:25.900
We'll just say all female athletes can immigrate here illegally.
02:52:40.580
Are you guys fine with, you know, Eastern European...
02:52:47.040
You know, I think we maybe should fast track, even for legal immigration, the...
02:52:53.640
Between the, you know, like young, adult, female athletes.
02:53:46.880
I think I was confusing net worth and like yearly, because I just want somebody that has
02:53:57.820
Because I know that I will have 10 million for myself by the time I'm 40.
02:54:05.400
I think that's the more solid argument for my part.
02:54:07.680
Just type in the prompt, what percentage of 40-year-olds have a net worth of 10 million?
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It doesn't have to be gender, just across the board.
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So like, we'll take the million, hypothetically.
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So what if the guy was on track to make the $1 million?
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And you find out that he's only making $750,000 a year.
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And easily, he could get that within 5 to 10 years.
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Right, because I think you do have to date and get to know somebody really well before
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But right, only if God decides that that's a plan for me.
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I'm happy with, you know, whatever I get out of my life.
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He doesn't have to have it sitting in the bank account right then.
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Look, I think for the majority of women, it will be delusional to want a guy...
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I don't care if he's 70 and that's his net worth.
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Most men, majority of men, are not going to have a $10 million net worth.
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Even if it's this, oh, well, he can be on the path to making this much.
02:57:00.760
Then the question it begets is, are you the type of woman that that man wants?
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You can want whatever you want, but where it becomes unrealistic...
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But it becomes unrealistic if you aren't the type of woman who would ever be able to secure
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Like, you'll just be single forever then, I guess?
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So then it's like, okay, do you lower your unreasonable, crazy standards?
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I answered the question to kind of like, you put should.
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If there was another guy that was showing me all the other attributes that I want in
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future father of my child, I do want generational wealth for my children, and I'm not able to
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So I feel like if I do have kids, I would want to be able to provide them that.
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And if I can't, then I would honestly reconsider having kids.
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But generational wealth, I mean, look, that's good if you can get it.
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It's not a wrong thing to want, but for that to be your bare minimum, it's delusional.
02:58:42.200
Look, here's what I see in the dating hellscape is, look, what percentage of men make this much
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If 20% of women want 1% of men, unless you guys are prepared to be polygamist, they would
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That leaves X amount of women who just, like it's purely math.
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If there's a million men that meet your standards, and there's 20 million women who want those
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1 million men, 19 million of those women ain't going to get what they want.
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So what I see happening is, obviously, maybe some women will be part of that 1 million that gets
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But it seems like, I don't know, you got to be realistic with how you're going to approach this.
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There's just not enough of these high caliber men, or at least whether they're high caliber
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or not, that meet your threshold or criteria, there's not enough of them to go around.
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I am curious, if you're intending to make a fair amount of money yourself and be very
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successful to give money to your kids, why would you want to make someone that, or, sorry,
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I can't talk today, why would you want to marry someone who makes even more, I don't know,
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I said the same amount, that I'm going to make the same amount.
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I mean, also, as women make more money, typically, that's not going to open up your pool of men.
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Like, for example, a guy who makes 10 mil, a guy who makes 10 million a year, he doesn't
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want some independent boss babe, who's going to be bossing it up and shit.
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Yes, there's going to be some dudes who are like, okay, boss babe it up.
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But most men, once they start making money, your money matters less and less.
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Like, if a guy makes 10 mil a year, he doesn't give a fuck about your money.
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He's going to be looking for, if he wants a more traditional dynamic, you being a boss
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Yeah, so then I probably, honestly, the chances of me ending up with a guy are really low.
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Yes, so that won't even matter to me because I'm probably going to end up with a woman
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that's making the same amount of money because we have the same ambitions.
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Okay, I'm not really talking about lesbian relationships here.
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I know, what I'm saying, that's irrelevant to me because I'm probably going to end up
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Okay, but your girl probably isn't going to be making 10 mil either.
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I mean, look, yo, old man, Brian, what the fuck?
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You want a guy who has a net worth of 10, 10 mil a year, whatever it is, you're just not
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You're not going to meet a woman who makes 10 mil a year.
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And when I say meet, I mean that's going to be the person you end up with.
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But we got multiple women here who, no offense to y'all, y'all average women.
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I don't think, I don't think really any of the women here are exceptional.
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I mean, I've gotten to know you guys a little bit.
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I mean, I know that you're like sex worker adjacent.
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What's the threshold for what you can do to a weirdo?
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So because somebody is weird, like let's say they're autistic or whatever.
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Like, I don't know if you ever heard it, but like when I say weird, I don't actually mean weird.
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I mean like a pervert and this man, this older man, two, two wrongs.
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So it would be wrong of me to romance scam a perverted old woman.
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It doesn't matter if she's this perverted 60 year old woman.
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For me to think this woman that I'm in love with her.
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These men literally just want, just they think I'm attracted to them.
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If you say you mislead these men into thinking they have a chance with you, whether it's
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about whatever, it would be wrong for me to mislead an older rich woman into letting
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her think that she, whatever, it's not, I'm not misleading her that I love her, but I'm
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We can date just so I can finesse money from her.
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Under the idea that we're in a, that I have a genuine interest in dating her.
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No, it's more of like, okay, I want you to come over and hang out with me.
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I'm going to give you $10,000 to come hang out with me.
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Did you or did you not say that you lied to these men?
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I mean, so for example, and you think it's fine, right?
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Do you think it's fine that men lie to women about their relationship intentions to get
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For a guy to be like, hey, babe, I want to date you, and then once he gets sex to dip?
03:06:22.060
I wouldn't say it's necessarily, like, wrong because the woman didn't need to sleep with
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him in the first place and you probably should get to know him more and, like, figure out...
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What if she got to know him for two months and he was playing the game?
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I don't think you should mislead somebody about your intentions.
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But it's not a win-win for anybody is what I'm saying.
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It's a win-win for the older men with the younger girl.
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So, like, they're paying to hang out with a younger girl because normally a younger girl
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They don't want me to tell them, you are so ugly and old.
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Well, you don't have to insult them, but you know that by misleading them into belief that
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they have a genuine chance with you, they're going to spend more money on you.
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I tell them in the beginning that I'm not going to fall in love with you and this is
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But then, but you also admitted to lying to them.
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But it's not, I'm not, I'm not saying that I'm going to like be in love with you and we're
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Well, they're suckers for believing it, but it's still wrong.
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It just seems a little, a little questionable, I guess.
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But, um, how did we, what, how did we get on this though?
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I'm talking about how many men actually fit within.
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And then meeting them and then being the wife material.
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Anyways, we've lingered on the, the money thing for quite a while now.
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So, y'all crazy, y'all crazy, y'all crazy, y'all average women don't want to deal with average
03:09:12.780
Explain sexist, bad, racist, bad, misogynist, bad, grape is bad, but feminist, good.
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Well, all those things are bad except for feminism.
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That's like, that does, that does bring us back to the convert, the earlier conversation
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when I was describing the definitions of feminism and I gave my charitable, excuse me, charitable
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And then I gave my true definition, which is women's advocacy, advocacy, and then baked
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in anti-male rhetoric, misandry, man, hatred, et cetera.
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You're like, I think both of you were like, well, who hurt you, Brian?
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And then you said something in essence, uh, why do you care so much about anti-male rhetoric?
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I'm trying to, well, let me ask you a question.
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Do you think anti-female rhetoric is good or bad?
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I, I didn't give you my definition of feminism.
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I've never said anything about hating men or being like, I think I'm a feminist because
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I want to be equal to a man because in my society, I have never been equal to a man.
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That's why when you were saying your definition, I'm like, what are you talking about?
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And you've never asked me what my definition was.
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But you just think that that's what like all women, this is what feminism is to everyone.
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No, because I'm literally telling you that I am not a man hater.
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I don't, I think I'm a feminist because I want to be equal to a man.
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It's like speaking up for women, womenhood, looking out for women.
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Do you think, do you believe that there's a patriarchy?
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I think there are some systemic things still left over.
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When I talk about feminism, I'm critical of patriarchy.
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It isn't necessarily individual men because I know a lot of good men in my life that I love
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I think it's getting better though, especially here in the U.S.
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I actually found a statistic that talked about men and women's pay gap.
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And actually for, it's, I think 80% right now for men and women in the U.S.
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But either way, for younger people, it's even smaller.
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There's the controlled pay gap, the uncontrolled pay gap.
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When you address or when you factor in hours worked, type of profession, geography, willingness
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to work overtime, willingness to work hazard pay, willingness to relocate.
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These are almost all things that there's a gap for in terms of men.
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So if you actually control, there is no wage gap.
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There are a lot of women that work a lot of long hours jobs.
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I mean, my job, I work probably about 60 to 70 hours a week on a bad week.
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So are you saying that I'm lying about the statistics?
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Here's the two stats I'm going to debate you on.
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I can't believe I have to get into the weeds like this.
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There's one individual woman I can find in the United States that works more than one individual man that I can find in the United States.
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I think it's the Bureau of Labor Statistics releases robust information on this.
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Yes, is there a woman out there who works more than some dude?
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But if we're looking across the board, on average, men work more hours than women.
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Once again, I think it's down to the profession.
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But across all professions, men work more hours.
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Teachers do a lot of stuff outside the classroom.
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Even if it was true that if we're doing a per capita assessment, because there's more women who are teachers, if we were looking at the average of men versus women in this regard, who knows?
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Even if we granted it, that wouldn't diminish any of the other industries where men overwhelmingly, like, okay, fine.
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Let's say that when it comes to teachers, in that particular field, women work more than the men do.
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Okay, well, all the other fields, men also work more hours.
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That would outweigh and dwarf the teacher contribution to this component.
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Are you just going to fake news this and be like, no, women work more hours than men?
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So, like, when I said teaching, it's because the majority of teachers are women, so.
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Okay, but then you would have to do, like, a per capita assessment.
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So, are you saying that, like, if 90% of teachers are women and 10% are men, that's probably not the numbers.
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You're saying, well, we have to add up all the extra...
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But bringing up professions that work a lot of hours, you think only men only work in jobs that work a lot of hours.
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But there are some professions that women are more...
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I suppose it's conceivable in some sector that, in some specific sector, that women work more hours than men, on average.
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Because across the board, for the average to actually be true, you would suspect, what's most likely, that across all sectors, men work more hours than women.
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Even if your point was true, do you think it defeats my point?
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Okay, so are we arguing that women work more than men?
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No, but I also don't think that men always work more than women.
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I've already granted you that, yes, it's possible that there are one, a hundred, a thousand, a hundred thousand women out there that do work more hours than some men.
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But, I don't even know how to explain this to make it coherent to you.
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So, on average, men work more hours than women.
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But there's also another nuance to it, which is, if women aren't working as more hours, there's a lot of women who have to leave work early, or not work as many hours to take care of kids.
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But it does contribute to that, especially if you're working a career, you stop your career to have a kid, then you go back later, you're not going to be making as much as you would, you just never left your job.
03:18:18.860
Well, that's why a company will hire a man over a woman.
03:18:26.260
So, my, my, yeah, I've literally had talks with women about this that haven't got job positions where they're way more qualified than men, but a lot of things are, like, associated with hiring.
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Like, let's say your business is brutal and cutthroat.
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Let's say you're a small business, and it's your money on the line.
03:18:51.940
So, it's like, these small businesses, oftentimes the owners are, look, sometimes the owners can reap quite substantially in terms of their income, but a lot of times they're fucking hustling, you know, they're trying to do everything they can to stay afloat, and do you think, like, you know, it's a good business move to hire a woman who's, like, going to get pregnant in three months?
03:19:19.800
Like, think about it from your perspective as a business owner.
03:19:25.220
Well, I know you're not a business owner, but if you were a business owner, and you're like, shit, okay, fuck, I got to fill this position, and I don't want to have to spend three months having to train somebody new, and, like, otherwise, I go out of business, and my family fucking starves.
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Like, I know there's a bunch of legal protections in place.
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I was about to say, it gets to be a gray area with the American with Disabilities Act.
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I mean, I think someone said it's not a disability.
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No, but when going on leave, you're going, you, it's like.
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Yes, there's a maternity leave, but it's not under, it's not a disability.
03:20:04.500
But, like, pragmatically speaking, if you're a business owner, you know, maybe these major corporations have leeway to, like, you know, whatever, hire a pregnant woman, they've got 40,000 employees, who gives a fuck?
03:20:16.160
You've got a business with 10, 20 employees, and you're fucking.
03:20:19.460
I think it depends on the type of business and also your employee, because if they're a good employee and you'll know they'll come back, I think they will.
03:20:32.300
But if I got pregnant, people recognize me at my job, and they come to trust me, and my boss likes me as an employee, I think he'd want to hire me back because I'll stay put and I'm consistent.
03:20:45.360
Right. Look, I'm not saying that it's always going to manifest itself that companies don't want to hire women, but I'm just looking at it pragmatically.
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It's like, I don't know, if you can, if you have a magic eight ball and you can tell the future or whatever, and it's like, okay, I can hire this person who I'm going to have to spend all this, all these resources and money training them.
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And then within three months, they're going to leave the job, and then I'm kind of fucked.
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Wouldn't it almost make sense for a business to prioritize hiring somebody where that's not a risk?
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I guess that is the problem, and that's why, for example, me, though it's not one of the many reasons I won't have a child biologically, because I don't want to not get behind in my career.
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And I know I'd much rather be a funeral director embalmer than a mother.
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But even then, even granting this situation where companies might have hesitation of hiring women, we clearly don't see it.
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Women are not out destitute in the streets, incapable of ever securing a job.
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Women completely, entirely participate in the labor force, in the workforce.
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Corporations are more than happy to hire women.
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This idea that there's rampant sexism and women aren't getting hired because maybe they'll get pregnant is just completely ludicrous.
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Corporations are predominated by their HR departments, predominated by women.
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Look, oh, man, we're getting in the weeds here.
03:22:26.160
I wanted to get back to this original claim, which was when I was like, gave you the definition of feminism, you had an issue with me saying that anti-male rhetoric and misandry is bad.
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Because when I brought it up, you're like, who hurt you, Brian?
03:22:52.640
I'm always interested in people who don't, I don't necessarily agree with why.
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Because I like to explain why I feel the way I do.
03:23:00.420
Like, what's there to disagree with about being against anti-male rhetoric?
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But, like I said before, in my criticism when I initially sent you that first message, sometimes there just seems to be some very, and it actually took me a while to remember the specific thing from the episode, but there seems to be kind of some anti-feminist attitude.
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Like, I don't even know what hypothetical situation I'd be in.
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It just seemed like it was a weird humiliation thing.
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It's a demonstration, it's a temperature check for if a woman can actually be submissive.
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And I would argue that the demands that women place on men are orders of magnitude greater than simply a benign, effortless, unless she's severely disabled.
03:23:54.500
So, this idea that it's a big ask when women want men to pay for first dates, when women want men to be protectors, when women want men to open car doors, when women want men to observe the sidewalk rule, which would seem to suggest that the woman wants the man to basically be a meat shield for her in the event that a car comes barreling down the street.
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And fucking, you know, he can push her out of the way, and he can fucking die on the first date when she's got ten sugar daddies, and she's fucking three other dudes, and you want some dude, some fucking sucker to die for you on the first date?
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I don't think that, you know, that is reasonable, and...
03:24:41.640
Wait, do you think it's unreasonable for women to expect men to pay on first dates?
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I guess you didn't circle that, but you do acknowledge, though, that, like, I want to say the majority of women want men to pay on first dates, even liberal women?
03:24:54.580
I do think that's rather hypocritical, and I don't expect to have to be paid for on the first date, so...
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The world isn't built of women like you, so I'm operating on generalities here.
03:25:08.140
I think, in general, women have an expectation that men should pay on first dates, right?
03:25:12.800
I think maybe it's definitely not all women, but I want to say it's a majority.
03:25:26.040
If men should pay on first dates, that means, okay, they have to...
03:25:33.140
So, when a girl says a man should pay on a first date, if that first date is $100 to pay for the first date, and he makes $20 an hour, the man has to work five hours to take a woman on a date.
03:25:50.060
If I bring a girl to fucking Chili's, and we get an appetizer, we get drinks, we get a main course, and we get a dessert, and then the tip, I'm going to spend $100 at Chili's.
03:26:00.960
If you can't afford to have a woman, then maybe you should get your money up, not your money up.
03:26:05.240
Look, there are places you can go that are going to be less than $100.
03:26:08.760
I don't think it's out of some insane spend in 2025 for a guy to spend $100 in total on a date.
03:26:18.960
And some girls here are going to say, only $100?
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If you can only afford to pay for the Honda, because you have Honda money, then don't go for the Mercedes, because you're literally going to get in debt.
03:26:32.080
Like, if you're a Ford Pinto, shouldn't you just not want a guy who makes $10 million a year?
03:26:40.280
That's why I said that I'm going to have that money.
03:27:11.800
I'm not going to let you guys keep escaping, though.
03:27:14.100
When I gave my definition of feminism and I said my true definition of feminism is women's
03:27:22.340
advocacy and then baked in anti-male rhetoric, misandry, you guys were like, well, why do you
03:27:30.680
Well, because it sounded like you were talking from some place of like so hatred.
03:27:45.000
If you hear somebody say a racist slur, would that get to you?
03:27:57.860
But like if the women are entitled to their opinions, if women think these things are
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So for example, is it a woman's opinion that she could say men are trash?
03:28:29.600
Wait, I thought the majority of men are creepy weirdos.
03:28:33.160
But there's like a good selective group that is upset because you guys are making general
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But yet he's still treated differently because of people, I guess, like you that assume automatically
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Well, you met me, so you don't think I'm weird.
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You probably do think I'm weird, but you don't want to say it.
03:29:09.220
I'm still going to come to the defense of the broad population of just normal men who
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also get lumped into this bigotry and bias against them.
03:29:20.760
So whether your determination of me is kind of irrelevant here, I'm broadly against anti-male
03:29:28.140
So why it matters to me, you say, well, if I heard something racist, you would be...
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Or you heard something racist, you would be against it.
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If I hear something sexist against men, I'm against it.
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Because you're a man and it hurts your feelings.
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So I can't speak for anyone else, but when I try to talk to someone I disagree with, I
03:30:10.620
You know, it's not like, yas, feminist, girl boss area.
03:30:14.760
But the reason I started getting into feminism and learning about it, it was long before college,
03:30:19.800
before someone says, oh, like, college indoctrinated you, was because I had some people treat me
03:30:26.460
unfairly when I was growing up because I was a woman.
03:30:29.180
And then listening to the stories of like my mother and grandmother and some of the other
03:30:33.220
women in my life, hearing them, it made me passionate because I just want a better world
03:30:38.840
But I just, some of the things that people I've loved face, I just don't want them to
03:30:44.100
have to go through that again or any future people.
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And so I just wanted to know, maybe if someone had been treated you unfairly for who you are,
03:30:56.300
It has nothing to do with like specific, like feminists who have treated me poorly.
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Actually, I am a person who has faculties of logic and reason and rationality.
03:31:08.900
And therefore, I can look at what feminism is and the ideology.
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And there's, trust me, there's plenty of subject matter there for that warrants criticism.
03:31:19.540
There's plenty in the feminist movement, in the ideology itself baked in that warrants criticism.
03:31:28.680
Well, okay, but when I gave you my definition of what feminist is.
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When I said that the feminist movement is anti-male, anti-male rhetoric, misandrist, et cetera, et cetera.
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Because I don't agree to that because that's not my definition of feminist.
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I'm like, who, like, why is this like the thought process?
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I love it because that's what I wanted to get into.
03:31:55.320
The reason I was asking you before about if you believe in the patriarchy, which you do, right?
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That in and of itself bakes in and perpetuates this idea.
03:32:59.760
There's an argument to be made that really there would be like oppression based on class, which would transcend race.
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But this isn't necessarily something that I'm forwarding.
03:33:19.220
But people would argue that all this racism shit, all this the gender war, race war stuff, it's very conveniently distracting to distract us from the actually the ultimate form of warfare that's going on, which would be related to class.
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I don't know if I would buy necessarily buy into it, but they're very if it is true, the obscenely wealthy are very happy to keep us all distracted and fighting amongst each other by focusing on race and blah, blah, blah.
03:33:57.260
So there would never there can never be class solidarity because the men are fighting the women.
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The blacks are fighting all this stuff, very distracted by this sort of shit that never enables a sort of movement to actually get real shit done.
03:34:27.820
In some ways, once again, I think it's situational.
03:34:37.060
Well, I believe there are men and there are women, too, that kind of will promote sexist ideas or just systemic sexism.
03:34:52.500
And I do think women are as capable of doing that as men.
03:34:55.320
Well, I mean, I would just say, though, if you buy into this idea of patriarchy, which I don't think is a very nuanced way of looking at the infinitely complex way that societies are structured to just say men bad, women oppressed, men oppressor.
03:35:19.820
Society is structured in a very complicated way to just put all the blame on men.
03:35:29.120
I mean, the patriarchy theory, it's this apex fallacy also that we were talking about before where very, very small proportion of people are in power, even if it is the case that that small, small, small proportion of people is men.
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How could you then hold four billion people, like, this sort of collective guilt?
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Like, oh, well, these ten men at the top have created the rules in society or whatever bullshit.
03:36:02.180
Like, it's a really weird way to look at society.
03:36:04.920
From my perspective, I actually think if we're looking at negative life outcomes, I think while it is true that you have a really small proportion of men who have that corner office, who are the CEO, who are in the executive positions, who do have more power politically speaking.
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Although, of course, I would just argue that women are more represented in the voter base.
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Well, I don't know about that, but women do have a say as it relates to politics.
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What proportion of men are CEOs or high-powered executives?
03:36:59.100
The average man has no more say, no more power than their female counterparts, which is like 99% of people, 99% of men have no more say than do women.
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And I would then point to, for looking at the negative life outcomes, the majority of negative life outcomes are disproportionately represented by men.
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Men are more likely to be victims of violent crime.
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But see, you've got to be careful with that because then it opens up this door to generalization because people will make this argument about, well, hold on.
03:37:49.200
It's really, black men are more likely to be in prison.
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But then when it comes to men being more likely to go to prison, you'll say, well, that's their choice.
03:38:01.680
Because if you're going to say that the criminal element in men is due to them being men because you're citing to, well, there's more men in prison, you've got to be careful because then it opens the door to racism, which would say that there's more black people in prison because of some innate characteristic of black people, which I reject, to be clear.
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If you're saying, I'm looking at crime statistics and more men commit these crimes, men bad, then if it's like, well, hold on, more black people commit these crimes than white people, it opens the door.
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If you allow for, if you open the door to men bad because they commit more crimes, you then open the door to this racial group bad because they commit more crimes.
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Once again, that's why I'm all about nuance over really big generalizations.
03:39:18.800
I'm like, I'm still like, that has nothing to do with my views of feminism.
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But as it relates to patriarchy, even granting that, you know, the vast majority of the people at the top are men.
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We also have to say that the vast majority of the people at the bottom are men.
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That's the homelessness, men who commit suicide, victims of war, all this stuff.
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Do you think, like, a 19-year-old boy in Kentucky had anything to do in World War II, World War I, with being sent to war?
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But the people who are sending them to war are men.
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But that's not fair to generalize all men, just because the political leaders happen to be men.
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But, like, I'm literally looking at the entire world.
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There's no women out here saying, let's go to war.
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Because then why bring up this idea that, well, it's terrible that, you know, 19-year-old boys who don't want to go to war get sent to war and get killed.
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Why the need to say, well, it's men who send them to war?
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What does that 19-year-old have to do with the fact that his political leader sent him and his other peers to war?
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I'm saying men are literally making other men victims of men.
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But the perpetrator of, by the way, mind you, a war can sometimes be a defensive war.
03:41:33.700
So maybe the leaders of the nation who happen to be men are like, well, shit, we're getting invaded.
03:41:42.360
We don't want to be doing this, but we have to.
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Well, you know, look, historically, if we look at queens, for example, we look at female monarchs.
03:41:57.060
Uh, we actually find that queens were much more likely to wage war than kings.
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So this, also this idea that, like, if, sure, even today, women are heads of state.
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And this idea that if women were all world leaders, everything would be peaceful.
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Uh, I've seen women, uh, fucking brutal towards each other.
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Women can be fucking brutal towards each other.
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This idea that women are completely peaceable people is ridiculous.
03:42:36.220
Yeah, but this idea that, like, oh, well, if we, I'm not, I'm not making the case that women would be more prone to war.
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Although there is some historical precedent for when women did have power, they were actually more likely to wage war.
03:43:00.340
Like, but if you do like a per capita assessment, per capita, when women were monarchs, they were more likely to go to war.
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When women were queens, leaders, empresses, whatever.
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Yeah, Google the queens more likely to go to war than men.
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There, there has been historical, uh, historical studies done on this specific thing.
03:43:27.580
But I guess my question to you is when I bring up male disadvantage and you say, well, who set that system up?
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Does that imply that men deserve the disadvantage?
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I never said that to begin with in this whole podcast.
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But you're shifting the discussion away from the actual concern about male disadvantage to either current day or historical blame towards men.
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So it's like, so it's like, and it's just this red herring.
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It's like, okay, well, who, so you're saying men collectively are to blame, which isn't true.
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It's small portion of men in power who make these decisions.
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This is why I like the concept of intersectionality because there, it's, there, there's a lot more layers.
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And yeah, someone who's privileged in one thing may not be privileged in something else.
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And I do think for everyone, no matter whatever system's oppressing them, we should try to dismantle that.
03:44:43.700
Also, if, if men like built this system, then clearly, then clearly, even if it's true, wouldn't it be a system that hates its own architects?
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But so this idea that patriarchy was built for the benefit of, of men, even if we grant this sort of, this is how society is structured.
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I think kind of going to the intersectionality thing again.
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So the men oppressing the other men, wealthy men, I think kind of, especially here in the U S kind of lead men that they're oppressing with a carrot on the string by saying, well, if you do this and this and this, and you act this way, you'll be like me one day.
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And you'll have all the money and power you want, but they never do.
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And that's how they keep people under their thumb.
03:45:43.220
I guess when people, when I point out how men are disadvantaged or suffering and you guys say, well, who set that system up?
03:46:17.400
So if a group historically set up a system, does that mean that individual members today can't point out how it's harmful?
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Like what about, could we say the same about women criticizing systems built by women?
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I mean, the feminism movement has criticisms within itself frequently.
03:46:42.860
And there's like any group of people, no matter what it is, there's splinters.
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Because people have gotten unhappy about something and they've split off and done their own thing.
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But like, for example, there are tribes in Africa that do FGM, female genital mutilation.
03:47:02.280
And what they've actually found is that this is a cultural artifact.
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It's a cultural practice that is, it's not with, it's not upheld by the men.
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The female genital mutilation is actually upheld by the women in these societies.
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And I don't know if it's because they're like, I suffered, so you have to suffer too.
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I think that that's oftentimes a thing that we see all the time.
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But I wouldn't, like if a woman had her genitals mutilated, I wouldn't then say, well, hold on.
03:47:40.780
It's the women in your culture who are allowing this practice to continue.
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Yeah, I mean, you can't have internalized sexism.
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But that is the women that are oppressing this.
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My go-to wouldn't be, wow, this bad thing is happening to women.
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But who should we, you know, should we blame the women and like try to diminish the impact of victimization?
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I think we should just be like, wow, that's really terrible.
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Bro, that's a couple grade levels above what's going on at this table right now.
03:49:01.980
Didn't we read the Vincent, the one from Vincent?
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You don't sell coochie, so you're not a prostitute.
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Okay, we need to get into some other stuff here.
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How tall are you and what is the minimum height of a man you would date, starting with you?
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I'm 5'6", and I just would like them to be taller than me, I guess.
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I mean, would I be more attracted to someone who's taller?
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But I'm not going to not talk to someone because they're, like, not that height.
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But I would prefer for them to be at least a little taller than me, because then it's just kind of awkward, and I just feel like, you know, big mama to them.
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The multi-millionaire, 20 million plus year, he can be 5'7"?
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I'm 5'5", and then my fiance is the tallest guy I've dated at 5'10", but I've dated guys that were my height or slightly shorter.
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I mean, I even think Peter Dinklage is kind of cute, so I have, it really doesn't matter.
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And how much did you want from a husband again a year?
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I just want their net worth to accumulate to 10 million.
03:51:12.000
I mean, I've only dated guys that are that tall.
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I've always been attracted to tall men, and tall men like me, too.
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It wasn't always, like, the best thing, but that's not what matters to me most.
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I'm like, I need someone to make me feel small.
03:52:48.120
Would you rather cross paths with a random man or a random bear on a hike?
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Well, first I know how to, like, handle a bear, because, like, I just am super, like, into
03:53:10.420
And I don't know, like, if I have a gun, like, you know, at least I could shoot the bear
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Um, and a man, I just am, the first thing that's going to come into my brain is, is
03:53:28.240
Again, I know how to, like, handle a bear and not have it come and attack me.
03:53:35.460
Well, um, assuming you don't have a gun, you're just going on a hike.
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I mean, do you typically carry guns on you when you hike?
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If you don't have a license, you're by yourself on this hypothetical hike.
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If I don't have a gun, I'm still going to choose the bear.
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Basically, you just have to, like, be really big, make yourself big, but also move small or slow.
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Do you know, like, what you do for the different bears?
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Like, you do different things for different bears.
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I don't really hike anywhere else that would have different types of bears.
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Do you think the polar bear is going to be scared of you?
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Like, I just feel like I would still pick the bear.
03:54:50.480
I think the question is more, like, would you rather likely get eaten alive or possibly
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Yeah, I've time across bears before with my family, and we were fine.
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They usually just leave you alone if you don't fuck with them, like.
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We were, like, making hella noise with pants, and the bear ran off.
03:55:38.100
I guess I could, I have more of a chance of killing a man than a bear, so yeah, a man.
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Because he, I just, there's a chance, there's a high chance that he'll want to rape or kill me.
03:55:53.940
So, do you think, like, 50% of men you walk by on the street want to sexually assault you or kill you?
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With the way they look at me and talk to me, yes.
03:56:29.960
So, do you think one of your brothers is possibly, like, wants to murder or rape a girl?
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Like, parents in America are very just ignorant and gullible, and, like, they don't even think to maybe have a talk with their children.
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You can 100% raise a school shooter, a rapist, an abuser.
03:57:06.700
Like, so, out of Nick or Brian, do you think, which one of them do you think is a murderer or a rapist?
03:57:15.700
So, do you think, but do you think either of them...
03:57:19.340
But there's two of them, so one of them has to be, right?
03:57:51.700
Okay, I'm not even going to ask about that for him, but...
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So, you think 50% of men are rapists and murderers?
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But, like, definitely, definitely, like, if they had the chance...
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If you were tied up in a room, I think there's very high chances that 50% of the men will take advantage of that.
03:58:13.840
So, I'm pretty sure the actual statistic is, like, less than 1%.
03:58:30.520
No, I just, I just speak to a lot of women, I know a lot of women, and they've, like, damn near all of them have been raped.
03:58:39.040
I know a lot of women that have been assaulted as well, but I wouldn't say that 50% of men are...
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Do you have, like, when you walk down the street, do 50% of men, like, want to rape you?
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Okay, I don't know if they want to, but they talk like they would if they had the opportunity.
03:58:54.460
But you said that, you said that 50% of men are rapists and maybe murderers.
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I think there's a very high chance of that, yes.
03:59:11.420
Okay, so, like, the heart of L.A., not, like, the greater L.A. area.
03:59:16.180
So, let's say, what, it's, like, half and half women and men.
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Men, so, you think one million men in Los Angeles are rapists and murderers?
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Do you even, do you know the population of California?
03:59:37.120
Yeah, then, yeah, I think a million sounds right, yes.
03:59:46.840
Okay, so, but then that would, like, take your 50%...
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I mean, I don't think that, but I guess that's more agreeable than 50%.
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I don't know, just for me to come across so many women that have had this happen to them,
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either as a child or an adult, like, this is crazy.
04:00:14.120
Like, it's definitely a very high percentage, like, 100-plus women, really?
04:00:21.280
Like, and how, who knows how many other women that one man did that to?
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Well, it's sad, and it's not right, but just because you walk down the street and you get
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catcalled or you have something derogatory said to you, that doesn't mean they want to
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So, that's what she's going back to, is you're saying half the men that I go down
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the streets, doesn't matter what time of the day or if I go into Trader Joe's, someone is
04:00:45.680
making a comment to me, therefore half of those men want to rape me.
04:00:51.500
I feel like if they had the opportunity, they would, because it's not just catcalling.
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Wait, it's L.A., and also it's just, like, low-key California in general.
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Like, there's a lot of interesting people here.
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But you said when you travel, you also get that as well.
04:01:10.640
So, it's not just in one place and what we're saying is all over.
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Maybe you should go around with, like, a bodyguard or something.
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Maybe you're just attracting that, because I don't experience...
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Also, I don't go out a lot, and I usually, I don't like to go out alone, either.
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I think maybe you're in the wrong area if that's actually happening.
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Going to the grocery store, like, random places that this shouldn't be happening at.
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Out of 49 million people in California, she thinks 1 million men want to rape her or rape people.
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No, because we were seeing in all of California now.
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Were you the one that said you were going to school for ENCO?
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I think it's more just like a hundred or a million people in California.
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If they had the opportunity, they would rape somebody.
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Is there the actual statistic of men that would rape women?
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All the girls that I know have not recorded it.
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Literally, it's still not going to be, like, 50% or 10%.
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If it's not reported, how would you ever infer statistics as to the likelihood of rape?
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I was saying that literally every woman I know, damn near, has been raped as a child or a woman.
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Saying 50% of women have been essayed as a child.
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That doesn't at all, is not at all comprehensible as it relates to the crime statistics that we know.
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Like, you're just pulling this out of your ass.
04:05:03.780
So you, how many, how many people have you met that you talk about rape?
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Yeah, but what's your, like, what's your, the, the, the pool of people that you're referencing here?
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Like, a somewhat of a connection to, like, be like, by the way, I want to have a really heavy conversation with you.
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It's just, like, it'll come up in a conversation of, like, like, me and my friends talk about worldly things.
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Like, you know, so if it gets brought up, like, the subject of men or the subject of rape or the subject of whatever, like.
04:05:57.620
It just comes up a lot, and then they tell me, and I'm just like, damn, how many women, how many more women am I going to hear that this happened to?
04:06:08.440
You say almost every woman who you know has been raped.
04:06:20.780
I don't dispute, there's no dispute that these things happen, but I find it dubious for you to say that almost all of the women you know have been raped, and 50% of them were raped as children.
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This doesn't correlate at all with the statistics that we know exist.
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That still wouldn't even compute that, like, I don't know, what do you, give us a percentage of the women you know who have been, like, raped, it's 90%, 95%?
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Uh, I mean, I suppose it's possible that that's been your experience, but.
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And it's always by, like, family members, stepdads, uncles, like, that type of stuff.
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That's why I, that's why I said the 5%, that's my reasoning behind it.
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It's not in line at all with, with the crime statistics that we know.
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It's not even in line with, like, these organizations that I think that their stats are off, but even some of these organizations that report on this, they don't ever go this high.
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I would, I would just point out, you didn't reference statistics or whatever, but, you know, a lot of these statistics, I've read some of these studies that they've done where they ask women and they try to analyze victimization rates.
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They will collapse all kinds of things that are, are wrong, but they'll collapse it under this umbrella term sexual violence.
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And it's this very disingenuous thing that these organizations do.
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And they'll, for example, they'll include under sexual violence catcalling, which is wrong.
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But when you use that and then you put out this, this data set and you say, this is, uh, this amount of women have experienced sexual violence.
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And most people, without, they're not going to look into the study, they're going to assume that that's rape or, like, severe forms of sexual, uh, assault.
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It's this really, uh, this really, what's the right word for it?
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Just insincere thing where you're, you're trying, you have this ideology, you're trying to paint a picture.
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Look at, there's no doubt that these terrible crimes happen and they do happen way more than they should.
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There's no doubt there, but it doesn't do these organizations any service to like artificially inflate by counting things that don't fall under what legally would be considered essay or rape.
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For example, you can tell me what you think about this.
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In one of these studies I saw, um, a guy who's in a relationship with a girl, if the guy, I'm trying to recall the exact details.
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If the guy threatens to break up with his girlfriend because she's not having enough sex with him, that's a form of sexual coercion.
04:10:08.240
And that's going to be, fall under the, this sort of umbrella term of sexual violence, sexual coercion, right?
04:10:17.400
Well, I don't really think if you're in a monogamous relationship and the under, and you've had plenty of casual or not casual, you've had monogamous, uh, consensual sex and your girlfriend like dead bedrooms, you.
04:10:35.940
I don't think that that's a, like a sex crime to be like, Hey babe, I don't think I want to date you anymore because we're not having sex.
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No, I don't think that's, but these organizations categorize it as a form of sexual coercion, sexual violence, AKA some form of sexual abuse or sex crime.
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By the way, I don't have a double standard on this.
04:11:09.720
If you're a woman and your boyfriend stops fucking you, you can break up with your boyfriend if he doesn't want to fuck you anymore.
04:11:23.760
No, I think it's fair to be like, Hey, what's going on?
04:11:27.460
But I also, I also think it's already gone to a point where you need to have a conversation.
04:11:36.080
I think it's fair to be frustrated if you've made like, Oh, we have, there is this, this guy kept a spreadsheet and he listed, this is kind of tacky.
04:11:47.520
I don't think you should do this as a guy, but he, he kept a spreadsheet of all the times his wife rejected them for sex.
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And in like a two month period or something, I don't know, it was a couple of weeks period or whatever.
04:12:01.760
She rejected them like 20 times and they had sex three times.
04:12:09.560
You want to break up with your chick cause she's not fucking you.
04:12:11.880
You want to break up with your boyfriend cause he's not fucking you.
04:12:19.660
But they, using their definition, they, they considered it.
04:12:29.000
I am curious though, just for if I do encounter them, what organizations are they?
04:12:39.080
They, they, they linked to a study on their website cause it was like one in three women.
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And then I looked at the actual study and it, it had the sexual violence definition that
04:12:56.120
And it's like, well, or I think there was another one where it was just like, I'm trying to think
04:13:13.000
Um, but I mean, so when we're talking about this, are we like, I don't know, we've had
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some, we've had some dubious things said on the show on this topic.
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Like, for example, can I ask you guys a question and I'll acknowledge ahead of time that this
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could be true, but do you think like, so let's say a woman has a boyfriend and they have
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And then she, she says she got raped by her boyfriend who she had consensual sex with the
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And then the very next night she has consensual sex with him.
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But we've had some women come on the show say that, yeah, I've got a boyfriend.
04:14:14.460
Like I, I suck his dick all the time, but like there was this one time I froze.
04:14:31.060
And then 24 hours later, I initiated sex with him.
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But this one time in between, she's saying she was raped.
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If you didn't, like, if she didn't say no or didn't express to him.
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I think, yeah, because I think that's confusing him if she's having sex with him this day and
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then like, and 24 hours later, but then in between, she's like, I think that's going
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It's not really fair to him because how is he supposed to know anything?
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But if she says no and she's like, then that, yeah, that's rape.
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Even a bear would avoid chair one because he would be able to smell how stupid she is.
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Also, the bear knows he would need a penicillin shot after walking by the skunk.
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Aw, you just paid $100 to tell me you don't agree with me.
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So as long as he's taller than you, you're 5'6".
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Yeah, I like people that are like a foot taller than me because I like wearing heels and being
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Everybody else, none of your answers were really, I don't have any issues with any of your other
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It depends on the situation, the bear and the guy.
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Like, I'd rather see a black bear than a grizzly bear.
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And then currently I'm staying at like a hostel that's mixed gender and I don't
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mind being in the same hostel room with guys asleep, but if I'm out in the woods alone
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and I'm camping alone, which I've done before, I don't really want to see a guy and let him
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Would you rather cross paths with a random man or a random bear on a hike?
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So the context, there isn't really a depends because the random bear could be a black bear,
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brown bear, grizzly bear, what's the polar bear?
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The random man could be, uh, could be the nicest guy ever, could be a murderer, could
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be, who knows what, it could be random men, right?
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If it's a hike, then probably a man, but if I'm camping alone, I'm going to rather see
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And also Indiana doesn't have really any bears other than the occasional black bear.
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Um, I picked a bear, but if we're wanting to hike, honestly, like I think I'm going to
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Uh, we won't linger on the bear one for too long, but, uh, basically I think it's sexist
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I think you guys are raging sexists to pick bear and here's why.
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I always like to use this, but you know, whatever.
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If we change the question to, would you rather come across a random black person or a random
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bear and you pick the bear over a black person?
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Would we all agree that it would be really racist to pick a bear over a black person?
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Again, but again, that people of color are victims of racism and men did this to themselves.
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If I'm an innocent person, I'm not guilty for what other men do.
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The majority of men are, no, it's not the majority.
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So if you're saying a majority of your exes cheated on you, are you going to say, okay,
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all men are going to cheat on me from now, from now on.
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And if all of those men you dated were white or black, would you say, okay, black men are
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Cause the majority of men, like black people didn't do anything to deserve racism other
04:19:29.720
than somebody just thought, oh, I'm better than them.
04:19:34.340
If a majority of your exes cheated, would you say all men will cheat?
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What about that guy who fucking murked that white woman on the, was it the subway or whatever?
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But the whole reason why racism exists is because of that.
04:19:51.960
What about that white woman who got murked by a black man?
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No, it's irrelevant because your color, I'm not seeing the color.
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I'm seeing that you are a man and that most men are the ones who are doing this.
04:20:22.620
Didn't he call her like a white bitch or something when he fucking shanked her?
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Yeah, he was like got the white one or something.
04:20:39.820
He like walked away and said something about me.
04:20:41.240
Well, when he walked away, he said, I got that white woman and the motive behind it when they asked.
04:20:48.140
The motive that when he was asked, why did you do that?
04:20:50.980
He said it was because he, he said that she was reading his mind.
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So why can't you make that attribution towards men who commit crimes?
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Maybe it has nothing to do with the fact that they're men.
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Why do you give grace towards a black person who committed an attritional crime, but not men in general?
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Because it has nothing to do with their color of their skin.
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And it has to do with that they're a man and men are just more aggressive than women.
04:21:23.660
This is, I don't actually think that this is even true.
04:21:26.820
Even granting that it was true, the, I would just defer back to just because of a very small proportion of a group commits a crime that doesn't like grant you carte blanche to do this collective guilt thing where, oh, all men or all people of this group are bad.
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That crime, you just said that men are incarcerated more, men are killed more, men are, like, you know, violence, all that.
04:22:04.060
I'm pretty sure that's all, like, they did that to themselves.
04:22:12.640
They chose to commit the crime to get incarcerated.
04:22:14.260
Okay, so you don't have any issues with, like, when there's over-representation of black people who are incarcerated or anything like that?
04:22:23.680
Well, like, you might, do you ever make the argument that, like, oh, why are these cops policing, like, black communities this way?
04:22:33.080
Like, okay, there's, there, do you think that there's any racist component to the fact that there's, like, a higher proportion of black men in jail per capita than white people?
04:22:51.740
Per capita, there's more black men who are in prison.
04:23:08.100
So, you know, George Floyd, BLM riots, he was killed by, well, the reason, the justification for the riots was he was killed by the police officer.
04:23:19.120
There are, of course, disputes as to the actual cause of death.
04:23:22.060
Some people believe, and the toxicology reports seem to indicate as much, he died of a fentanyl overdose.
04:23:29.080
In any case, there's massive outrage, whatever.
04:23:31.540
If I could tell you, though, that there are more, just even white men who are killed, there are more white men who are killed by police officers than there are women of all races combined, black, Latina, Asian, white, all women combined.
04:23:47.940
There's more white men that are killed by police than there are women total.
04:23:53.440
Wouldn't that also have to, you'd have to be like, wow, there's sexism against men.
04:24:01.160
If those were the statistics, then I would agree.
04:24:14.500
Okay, well, then black people also choose to disproportionately commit crimes.
04:24:18.140
But I just, like, I want to separate the race from the gender.
04:24:25.460
Like, to have, like, the majority of men are all races.
04:24:36.000
And, like, the majority of you are acting crazy.
04:24:43.220
Why would you, you would, you're the one making the claim that it's the majority, it's the majority of men.
04:24:51.120
I think you're just speaking from personal experience.
04:24:53.600
I'm speaking from personal experience, experience from other people, like.
04:24:58.880
Let's say I, let's just say hypothetically I had three, four, five bad experiences with black people.
04:25:06.600
Would that then give me justification to say the majority of black people are bad?
04:25:16.780
So I get that you've had a lot of bad experiences with men.
04:25:24.620
That wouldn't then give you the basis to say the majority of men are bad.
04:25:29.920
Just because you've had a lot of bad experiences.
04:25:39.300
So like if, if one race, five people of the same race did something to you, it's just way, the, the grand scheme of things is like there's only two genders.
04:25:50.120
One of them is acting more crazy than the other.
04:26:07.300
But you're doing this sort of collective guilt thing.
04:26:09.640
You're basically saying, oh, well, I've had these bad experiences and these crimes disproportionately.
04:26:15.860
Men commit these crimes disproportionately as compared to women.
04:26:18.920
So ergo, like all men bad or majority of men bad.
04:26:26.660
If, if the majority of men were as bad as you think they are, trust me, society, society would be giga fucked.
04:26:39.760
But trust me, I don't think you understand like societal collapse, really.
04:26:48.740
We're, look, possibly, possibly we're on the way there.
04:26:57.160
You have men who, by the way, there's not enough credit given to men who overwhelmingly, like you want to point to men are also evil.
04:27:05.760
Men overwhelmingly, like women are total fucking cowards.
04:27:08.820
Men overwhelmingly are the ones who do acts of heroism.
04:27:12.080
If somebody is in a, in distress situation, a man's going to be the one to save them.
04:27:18.380
It's not going to be some woman swimming in there to save her.
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The majority of heroic acts are almost exclusively done by men.
04:27:32.680
Almost all acts of heroism are exclusively done by men.
04:27:36.300
I think you're dismissing, you're looking at the negative of men and not looking at the positive of men.
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Not only that, moving a step below just heroism, the back-breaking, grueling work that is required.
04:27:50.720
No, not even the back-breaking, grueling work that is required to keep society functioning when you're living in Indiana.
04:28:01.600
When it's fucking below zero, we got two women from Indiana here.
04:28:05.580
Below zero in Indiana, in the middle of winter, it's not some woman going out there to fix the electrical lines.
04:28:11.500
At 3 a.m., you think it's a woman going out there to fix the electrical grid?
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No, it's some grizzled dude who, some fucking white-bearded dude or, you know, whatever.
04:28:26.740
A man is going to be the one that fixes shit when shit hits the fan.
04:28:31.460
And so all the comforts that you women, so ungratefully take for granted, it's men that bestow upon you the comforts of modernity.
04:28:41.560
The comforts of modernity is just so ungraciously cared for.
04:28:48.200
A lot of men do a lot of difficult blue-collar jobs.
04:28:51.140
But that being said, not all women have jobs that are luxurious.
04:28:55.520
I mean, I pick off green, mushy people covered in maggots off the floor sometimes.
04:29:02.300
You know, I've had to reassemble people from the get-go.
04:29:06.000
And there are men who tell me all the time, I can't do what you do.
04:29:14.180
You're always pointing to, well, I'm the outlier or I know women who are the outlier.
04:29:21.700
I just know a lot of women who are also like this.
04:29:26.580
But I just, I'm not, there are a lot of girls who are like me.
04:29:33.200
But we have statistics from the Bureau of Labor Statistics that show when it comes to critical infrastructure jobs, women are completely absent.
04:29:43.760
You know, all these jobs that basically hold up and are the foundation for society, it's 95, 97, 99% men.
04:29:56.940
It's actually more women are going into funeral service.
04:30:00.240
I would not say that funeral service is necessarily like critical backbone infrastructure in society.
04:30:10.120
I don't see how the number of deaths would, I mean, it's, you obviously can't just like let dead bodies like be kicking it in the streets and stuff.
04:30:24.640
Something has to be done there, but this idea that it's comparable to like the hardworking men who ensure that the, you know, the water system, the electrical system, waste management, all these critical infrastructure fields, telecommunications, everything, everything, everything, it's predominated by men.
04:30:53.740
Men dominate in these fields and these fields are what keep society running.
04:30:59.360
Yeah, I don't disagree with that, but I would, but like, I wouldn't like completely say that women like don't work those jobs because like her mom is a firefighter.
04:31:07.280
Like my mom's a firefighter and she will tell me that literally they will reject people, women, to work the job.
04:31:16.360
So then you want to say, oh, we're the backbone of the whole country.
04:31:27.060
You need to be, first off, you need, I don't know who your mom is.
04:31:30.680
Because there's a lot of affirmative action, DEI stuff, lowering of standards.
04:31:39.280
She's a captain and an engineer and she literally has had to deal with men constantly, like, trying to test her and trying to belittle her.
04:31:50.860
And they do it in the entire department and they're not letting women into the department.
04:31:56.920
Your mother is a complete contradiction of this entire claim.
04:32:10.960
I mean, you know, the Palisades Fire, I don't know, fucking the DEI shit with the L.A. Fire Department or whatever the fuck.
04:32:19.100
But women don't have the physical strength to do the job.
04:32:23.360
Okay, so don't sit here and say, oh, we're like the backbone.
04:32:29.180
Yes, because of men's innate nature, we're more suited and acclimated to doing these jobs.
04:32:34.360
Okay, so don't complain that you have the job then.
04:32:38.020
I'm saying you have this bigoted, generalized contempt or hatred for men.
04:32:43.780
And I'm saying maybe there should be a bit more appreciation for men.
04:32:47.140
You say the majority of men are creeps, weirdos.
04:32:55.880
My specific grievance with you is the use of the term majority.
04:33:05.720
But saying the majority of men paints the majority of men as bad.
04:33:12.400
Like, I would never say the majority of black people, the majority of this group.
04:33:17.940
I think she should say the majority of men she meets because this is her, like, I, this
04:33:27.180
The majority of men I meet and everyone I know.
04:33:29.780
Even if she meets a hundred men per day and they all slap her across the face, that still
04:33:40.220
But I think what she's trying to say is the majority of men she meets, not the majority
04:33:46.800
She means majority of men, point blank, period.
04:34:07.360
But I definitely think that as a collective, just need to do better and start raising men
04:34:24.480
Is your statement racist if we replace men with black people?
04:35:01.920
You said that you can be sexist towards women, which is misogyny.
04:35:08.000
It's not necessarily okay or not okay, but it's an opinion.
04:35:13.100
It's an opinion, but feelings don't count facts.
04:35:16.340
It doesn't really concern anybody if someone is sexist.
04:35:21.000
If they treat other people differently because of their sex, or let's bring race into it
04:35:29.640
People get hate crime because of sex and race and stuff, and that's bad.
04:35:45.160
If somebody chose to wake up one day and be like, this color of your skin is wrong.
04:35:51.940
Men, the majority of men I know, I meet, everyone meets that I know.
04:35:57.780
I want to live in a society where people don't say, I have had bad experiences with this group
04:36:05.800
of people, and I can look at crime statistics, and because of these two things, that gives
04:36:13.820
That gives me justification for sexism in your case, or it would give a racist justification
04:36:21.600
For example, and I just think it's a dangerous road you're going down.
04:36:28.340
But what you're doing is opening the door to racists to say, well, if your position is
04:36:33.920
So if a racist were to say, well, I've had bad experiences with black people, I've had
04:36:42.960
That's a very, very small proportion of black people, by the way.
04:36:51.620
Black people are more likely to commit violence against white people.
04:36:54.640
Black people are more likely to commit XYZ crimes.
04:36:57.560
Therefore, I am going to generalize all black people and say, you know, negative things
04:37:07.180
I would never say any sort of negative generalized statement.
04:37:10.700
I would point to there are specific subset, a very small proportion.
04:37:15.860
There's a small proportion of people who commit these crimes, whether it's because they're
04:37:20.000
not because, whether they're men, whether they're black, and I would never attribute the
04:37:28.240
I would never say this minority of this group, whether it's black or white or women, any group,
04:37:34.800
and say, I think, well, the whole group is rotten or the majority of the group is rotten
04:37:40.440
because of the negative actions of a small portion of that group.
04:37:44.760
I just think it's way different from gender and race.
04:37:52.520
So is it okay for a man to kill a woman just because he doesn't like women because it's
04:37:59.120
She said it's just an opinion that makes it, that's okay.
04:38:05.340
If somebody doesn't necessarily feel comfortable around a man, it doesn't really concern anybody
04:38:10.800
But for you to hate someone because of their skin color, what did that person do to you?
04:38:27.580
I don't think anyone should be rude to anybody.
04:38:29.940
But if somebody feels uncomfortable around a man, they have a right to because most women
04:38:39.640
White people should be allowed to feel uncomfortable around...
04:38:44.540
Because that's the logical extension of your position.
04:38:50.860
If it's okay for women to feel uncomfortable, then surely it must be okay for a white person
04:38:56.900
to feel uncomfortable around a racial minority.
04:39:03.720
They do because the majority of people are literally harassed by men every day.
04:39:09.600
So your criteria is, I've had bad experiences, bad my own anecdotal experiences, and look
04:39:21.940
It would be logically consistent then to say, well, hold on.
04:39:25.220
A white person, I've had X, Y, Z, three, four, five bad experiences with black people.
04:39:35.520
Then that just gives you justification for racism.
04:39:43.720
I just don't think race has anything to do with it.
04:40:04.500
Are there more black women who commit murders than white men per capita?
04:40:31.540
I'm not justifying it, but I think part of the reason women are so wary of that woman,
04:40:40.480
I'd like to get people bent out, and I travel alone a lot, or I do activities alone a lot.
04:40:46.200
You know, I've had my whole family, my whole life, when I go to do these activities alone,
04:40:52.980
Hey, you need to go tell someone where you're at.
04:40:58.780
But I will say, when my family says that, they're not bringing up, like, little ladies
04:41:04.880
I'm not saying it's right that they assume that, but a lot of women have been told that
04:41:09.240
their whole life, and maybe that's why they're a little hesitant.
04:41:20.400
Once she's back from the bathroom, we're going to do the famous...
04:41:46.120
Nick, let's do a quick Twitch, and then I'm going to do some Venmo, Cash App shoutouts.
04:42:10.900
Holy shit, you fucking, oh my God, you guys are abusing two hours since we've had a Prime
04:43:13.820
Ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of one to ten.
04:43:44.540
Well, because there's some things that I'm going to get done that will make me a ten.
04:44:42.560
Uh, what, just curious, what cup size are you currently?
04:45:08.620
You know, from the message I sent you, I took issue with this, I think we're all better
04:45:28.660
Well, when you embalm, it's not make, you're trying to make someone look nice and presentable,
04:45:35.860
I know, I'm somewhat facetious, facetious joke, uh, but, you know, they put on makeup
04:45:45.400
Well, for much of my life, I've been told I'm deeply unattractive.
04:45:48.660
I've never dated in high school, um, people like the rating scale, especially when you're
04:45:55.780
Now, I know you're not a natural beauty, but I think with the right clothes and the right
04:46:02.840
I'm sure your chat's having a fun time telling me how gross and worthless I am, so.
04:46:09.820
And that's what I took issue with, is because I see how bad that kind of stuff can be.
04:46:15.000
Like, I'm, I'm in the Big Brothers Big Sisters program with an 11-year-old girl, and she's
04:46:19.400
already worrying about her weight, and it's just so destructive, and it, you know, I've
04:46:24.160
had to deal with an eating disorder, and I got so much therapy, and it's just, it's
04:46:29.740
You wrote that the, the rating thing, it's destructive to the mental health of many people.
04:46:37.660
Like, I know with social media, and a lot of young guys, they're doing that looks maxing
04:46:42.040
thing, and it's just really toxic and sad, because your look should be your least interesting
04:46:49.360
Well, hold on, but there's two different things here that we have to differentiate.
04:46:53.120
There's the looks rating, and then there's generalized vanity.
04:46:58.400
So, even if, like, we were, you know, we were all so above it, and we were above rating people
04:47:04.840
for, on a 1 to 10 scale, that wouldn't do away with people's desire to be good-looking
04:47:19.620
I guess it's looking your best is one thing, but I feel like when people are trying to
04:47:23.620
look their best, they're measuring up to someone else.
04:47:26.620
Like, for example, you want to look like Sydney Sweeney, and I think you look great the way
04:47:43.240
I call him my pseudo-stepson, but my fiancé's had a son that lived with us since he was
04:47:47.640
He's 18 now, and he went through a bad period of time where he was dealing with an eating
04:47:53.600
Okay, but I'm not sure the specifically the 1 to 10 rating question or system does away
04:48:02.740
So, my rating, the looks rating 1 to 10, whether it existed or not, people would still engage
04:48:11.740
in vanity, comparison, wanting to look their best.
04:48:16.880
So, my question is, how specifically is the rating system destructive?
04:48:22.040
Because I think the rating question relates to truth and being able to accurately assess
04:48:28.820
I think the rejection of truth is destructive for one's mental health and society.
04:48:39.140
Like, I hear, especially growing up, especially when I went to high school, guys always would
04:48:46.980
Or sometimes, you know, growing up, social media.
04:48:55.600
I don't think you should walk up to somebody and be like, you're a fucking four, ugly person.
04:49:03.600
Clearly, but when we're just having, like, a sort of analytical conversation about this,
04:49:09.940
we're asking somebody's rating, I don't really think it's going to be a massive source for
04:49:17.920
You know, and when I watch the videos, you have either shorts with people commenting
04:49:24.000
Anytime anyone rates them, a lot of the chat's just like, oh, well, they're, like, this much
04:49:35.920
I suppose, but I mean, if you've spent even a day on the internet, you know that even
04:49:41.180
if you make, like, tasteful cooking videos or whatever, or play video games, like, people
04:49:48.660
But as it relates to that specific thing, and look, I can promise you, even men or women
04:49:55.840
who make benign whatever kind of content, they're going to face criticisms of all kinds.
04:50:05.040
That's been the case for decades at this point.
04:50:08.040
Well, especially since the invention of social media, YouTube comments have always been pretty
04:50:16.440
Like, again, go look up a girl who makes cooking videos.
04:50:23.480
But I do think with these videos about the looks ratings, if a woman is like a five and
04:50:40.480
But if a woman's a five and she calls herself a 10, I think that's fair game for criticism.
04:50:47.520
So, you know, look, I'll give somebody like plus or minus a point or two.
04:50:51.280
I'll give them a bit of leeway from my own assessment, which is always very accurate,
04:51:00.440
But for an average woman to say she's a 10, that's where we get into this territory of
04:51:10.140
But then we also like, what's defining our looks?
04:51:16.480
It's like everyone has different like, like you could literally like, like beauty is not
04:51:21.140
like someone like me, like someone has my traits, my color, my skin.
04:51:24.380
Like, you know, it could be a lot of things that I can make, uh, fairly unbiased determinations
04:51:32.140
Like I can be like, that's a beautiful black woman.
04:51:34.720
That's a beautiful white, that's an ugly white woman.
04:51:37.020
And so I believe I, while I might have like my own preferences when it comes to dating
04:51:44.240
or whatever, I can still mostly make a fairly reasonable, uh, determination, I think.
04:51:53.000
Let's do this before we dive into the criticisms of the looks rating thing.
04:52:07.320
No, I really do think it's, I don't even know what I look like.
04:52:16.880
I know that you said a solution, but I'm going to give myself a 10.
04:52:51.620
Um, I have always said 10, so I'm just going to stand on business.
04:52:59.120
But, um, you know, for what it's worth, I would go around and be able to tell everyone
04:53:03.460
here that you guys are also a 10 and I don't even think we would make it on the show if
04:53:33.820
Like you get a 10, you get a 10 because I'm, you know.
04:53:44.400
Everyone's a 10 because everyone's a 10 to somebody.
04:53:51.320
So those dudes that came into the strip club, all of them were 10s too?
04:54:25.660
Wait, didn't you also have an issue with the looks rating thing or in your nuts?
04:54:30.640
I don't think I did, but I will, I will say that I do believe the beauty is in the eyes
04:54:38.460
Let's do this scale because it is everywhere in our society.
04:54:50.200
By the way, guys, Felicity is a new, uh, she's a card girl for an MMA organization.
04:55:23.260
You guys are going to draw my ire a little bit here.
04:55:39.880
You're, you're participating in the, your own objectification.
04:55:49.020
Did you, anybody want to, do you want to answer it?
04:55:57.300
You know, but look, hey, I, big lady of matter, by the way, I just want to say, I just want
04:56:01.660
to say, you know, I, I actually, I don't think I've actually said this.
04:56:05.920
I think, you know, there's a lot of shaming, a lot of shaming happening if a woman has
04:56:10.860
a large labia, but you know, we don't talk enough about the color of the labia and you
04:56:21.260
It's natural for women to have a bit of brown there, little brown labia flesh.
04:56:34.800
He says, whatever, but I don't think we should be shaming women.
04:56:40.140
Little, you know, you got the, the, the, the, the meat curtains, you know, which I'm a fan
04:56:55.620
I'm looking for some, some, uh, world Guinness world record labia.
04:57:27.040
I told Felicity, if a girl was being catty with her, uh, after, after last show, I said,
04:57:32.840
if a girl is being catty with you, you should just look her up and down and be like, I wouldn't
04:57:49.200
If you want to just destroy a woman, you just, I can do that.
04:58:34.060
Look, if you guys ever, you know, us guys, all we talk about is how to oppress women.
04:58:40.060
We get together and we're like, how can we oppress these fucking women?
04:58:43.680
We got like this conspiracy cult and we're just like, you know what?
04:59:05.120
If you don't catcall enough women in a week, you get sent to prison.
04:59:08.200
I would believe that based off of how many ideas.
04:59:18.500
If you don't catcall enough beaches, straight to jail.
05:00:04.660
You know, I get the most beautiful women for my show.
05:00:12.760
You know, the only reason I don't get the Victoria's Secret models and, you know, the, you know,
05:00:37.600
Why don't average women, why can't they just say they're average looking?
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Are you saying that they rated themselves wrong?
05:01:09.380
I've had so many men tell me that I'm so perfect and so beautiful and that they want me so
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Yeah, but also like if you're a five, you shouldn't be talking at all.
05:01:38.000
That doesn't even compute because, for example, I think somebody who lives in, who's fucking
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homeless, could look at somebody who is trying to sell their shitty house for $20 million
05:01:53.980
and the market says, no, that house is worth $500,000 and even though they're homeless,
05:02:00.300
they could be like, that house is not worth $20 million.
05:02:06.300
So in this case, regardless of my own level of looks, I don't see why I would need to be
05:02:16.240
What I'm saying is that it's like, I could care.
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Like if it was somebody else, yes, it would affect me more.
05:02:29.780
But people that are more like you have voted me like that.
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And dealing with beautiful women that don't give you a chance.
05:02:55.940
You can't disagree that you have a tiny bit of weight.
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If you had internal hate for women, we wouldn't be here.
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The whole point is to have us here so he can argue with us.
05:03:09.780
He's challenging like, okay, if you're going to feel this way, present facts and evidence.
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That's what he's been asking throughout the night.
05:03:16.580
Well, what have I said that would indicate I hate women?
05:03:26.640
Yeah, and then you're super like anti-feminist.
05:03:31.520
Just because you're anti-feminist doesn't mean you're anti-women.
05:03:34.840
That's where people can like get confused about hating women.
05:03:38.100
She was making some claim that I, you know, whatever.
05:04:04.420
You don't need to care for my opinion, but you should at least attempt to contend with
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it with, you know, perhaps a rebuttal or present some sort of counter narrative here.
05:04:18.440
Do you think that these two women are accurate in their self-assessment?
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Would you say she and she are more attractive than you?
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Are they more attractive than your friend here who also gave herself an 8.5?
05:04:52.320
My issue here is, though, is throughout the course of this night, we've heard women say
05:04:57.780
they want a guy who's 6'2", they want a guy who makes 10 to 20 million a year, you want
05:05:05.440
So, what I'm seeing is a lot of, I want, I want, I want, and you think you deserve that
05:05:11.880
thing, perhaps because you have a self-assessment of yourself that's incorrect.
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I've only dated tall men, so this is what I like.
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Why would we lower our standards if this is what we're used to?
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I've only experienced tall men, and I know this is what I like.
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My primary gripe is the, like, I want a guy who makes 10 million.
05:05:38.780
I think a man, I think when I was saying that, I want somebody ambitious, just as ambitious
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So, I want somebody to be on the same page as me.
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What if you don't make that money, and the guy who's just as ambitious as you doesn't
05:05:58.180
Like, you do realize there's winners and losers.
05:06:13.520
When I'm saying winners and losers, so your goal, your goal is make 10 million dollars a
05:06:26.420
I'm not saying you're generally, I'm not, like, using it as just a generic insult.
05:06:31.540
When I'm saying winners and losers, I'm talking about if your goal is, I want to be a superstar
05:06:37.200
music artist, I want to make X amount of money per year, this is what I want my net worth
05:06:41.960
to be at 40, there's gonna be winners and losers in that desire.
05:06:48.780
In this case, don't think you're gonna be a winner.
05:06:53.500
Maybe I'm a party pooper, maybe I'm a buzzkill.
05:06:58.440
But I would say this, I would say this to almost anybody.
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Yeah, that's why I just have to prove you wrong, and then I'll be back, and then you're
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Like, most people, you know, you look at certain people, like, even, and you'll pass up on actual
05:07:20.440
Like, there are some, like, people who are really successful that I would have pointed
05:07:25.280
to and said, no way, there's no way they're gonna make 20 mil, right?
05:07:28.840
But it is a fair position to be like, yeah, like, 99% of people.
05:07:40.560
You were going by soft statistics that 99% of people don't get this far.
05:07:44.700
But it's not just, even if I knew your mindset, like, if I sat down and talked to you for an
05:07:49.180
hour, and I came out of that, like, wow, that girl is a firecracker, and her mindset
05:07:59.980
It doesn't, life doesn't always work out that way.
05:08:04.120
There's a lot of people with ambition, who work hard, who do all that, who are, who have
05:08:11.560
There, there's a component of luck with, with wealth.
05:08:15.800
Not everybody, even it, no matter if they try hard, they're not, not everybody's going
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Trust me, Hollywood, the entertainment industry is littered with, with talent.
05:08:27.920
There's talented, hardworking people that don't make it.
05:08:40.040
But I, I still believe in myself, and I know what I'm, to be clear, I'm not saying, well,
05:08:49.780
But I'm also going to sit here and be like, pro, like, if I'm just looking at it, statistically,
05:08:58.740
Most people work some bullshit job to make money.
05:09:02.440
Most people are not chasing their, no, most people are not living their dream life.
05:09:15.400
You think, you think the, the, have you ever seen a 30 year, 30, 40 year old guy working
05:09:29.020
You think Uber drivers, you think Uber, but you think Uber drivers, they're like, this
05:09:33.820
I've, I've had Uber drivers in their forties, fifties, sixties, seventies.
05:09:37.260
It's not their dream to be fucking driving it and they're, it's too late for them.
05:09:42.500
And some people just don't chase their dreams and that's why they're in that position.
05:09:47.320
And some people chase them and they never get to them.
05:10:05.480
Y'all want a guy, you want a certain caliber of man, but like, if you want a 1% guy, are
05:10:17.820
There's a lot of women who are not in the 1% that want a 1% guy.
05:10:31.520
That's just not enough 1% men to go around unless y'all just all collectively agree tomorrow.
05:10:43.240
These 1% guys are going to have 30 girlfriends.
05:10:51.000
I feel like, yeah, like, because I do feel like I will end up with a woman just because
05:10:55.480
of all these like traits that men carry that like we clash on.
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Like, so it doesn't, it's like almost like irrelevant to me.
05:11:03.220
I guess the reason it's kind of important here is if you want both men and women to be satisfied,
05:11:10.280
if women are continually chasing after a certain caliber of guy, like, can I ask you a question?
05:11:16.860
Do you think it's possible that there are women who chase after or want men out of their league?
05:11:33.360
Maybe, you know, some, some men who think they're hot shit who are trying to get some perfect,
05:11:42.660
Maybe you've experienced it yourself, like genuinely, not just you're, you're delusional
05:11:48.660
about it, but like a guy stepped to you and you're like, nope, sorry, buddy.
05:11:58.300
You don't possess the traits that I, whatever it is.
05:12:03.360
I think the difference is though, is that where women get into trouble with this is if I approach
05:12:12.600
And then look, it could be, I think people can bring more to the table than just their looks,
05:12:21.580
If I step to a 10 out of 10 chick, I'm getting instantly rejected.
05:12:36.080
Men can live in reality because we get slapped in the face figuratively immediately.
05:12:46.740
There's nothing in a woman's head who's better looking than me that thinks, you know what?
05:12:51.660
I would never date this guy based on his looks.
05:12:55.100
Like he's just not attractive enough to be in a relationship with, but you know what?
05:13:14.020
I would never be in a relationship with this girl just purely on her looks, but you know
05:13:17.980
Like she really likes me and she'll give me pussy quick and she's going to, she's going
05:13:36.640
I'll keep her around for a month, two months, three months.
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Some girls will be kept around for, and I'm not saying it's right, but I'm talking about
05:13:47.340
And that's why these women, oh, why won't he commit?
05:13:50.220
Oh, uh, you know, I just want to, you know, I'm not ready.
05:14:01.820
They, and look, I'm not saying it's right, but I'm just looking at reality.
05:14:06.100
And so what can happen is, for example, if I could just like have a string of really
05:14:16.460
attractive women who just want to fuck me like there, you know what, Brian, I'll just
05:14:20.780
fuck you a couple of times, but I'll never be in a relationship with you.
05:14:23.360
And that all of a sudden makes it less appealing for me to settle for the girl who maybe she's
05:14:32.520
not as attractive, but she'll be in a relationship with me.
05:14:35.900
So it's like, and the guy, the men, this is wrong.
05:14:44.980
They say they, they dangle the potential of a relationship or commitment or this it's wrong.
05:14:51.120
They shouldn't do it, but they do do it because they want the pussy.
05:14:59.800
And so you'll be chasing after these really good looking guys who just want you for sex.
05:15:16.000
And it's like, and then you've gotten the taste of the good life.
05:15:19.520
Like, imagine you lived in a mansion, you lived in a mansion and you heated floors and
05:15:26.360
it was fucking beautiful and the view was amazing.
05:15:30.240
And then I got, now you rent a condo in Reseda.
05:15:50.680
And then it's really hard to go down to where your actual league is.
05:15:54.660
Like if I was living in, if I was living in a mansion, all, all these amenities, whatever.
05:16:10.440
And then I had a downgrade and I had to have a roommate, like a person who lived in the
05:16:15.860
Even just that, even whatever, you don't live in the mansion.
05:16:19.700
Let's say you just had your own bedroom and bathroom.
05:16:22.700
Do you know how fucking hard it is to go from that to sharing a bathroom?
05:16:32.860
Like I'm never, I just can't relate, but I 100% understand what you're saying.
05:16:37.000
Me, I'm never going back to sharing a bathroom.
05:16:39.480
I'm not sharing a bathroom with some random roommate.
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I'm, I've had the good, I've had the good life.
05:17:02.420
Yeah, no, I, women, that's definitely what happens.
05:17:04.900
It's never happened to me, but I'm like, I can't relate, but.
05:17:13.500
Like men will sleep with women that they're, they're not all that attracted to.
05:17:23.720
And then the women will like create this whole fan.
05:17:25.620
I think a lot of the problems is that women are like just easily in love.
05:17:29.100
And a lot of women like create fantasies off after.
05:17:36.300
They like kind of like, they're now turned off.
05:17:37.980
Now they're like, they're not as close to you now after having sex.
05:17:40.840
Unless you either have been like, like, you know, like forming a relationship.
05:17:44.460
But if it's just like some random thing, usually like when a woman has sex with a man randomly
05:17:52.760
And then so I think women during these times, they just start like creating this fantasy in
05:17:59.660
And then like, and then of course their standards start, start changing.
05:18:03.080
And now they're like, okay, like this is what I received.
05:18:09.420
I've literally heard guys say she just isn't attractive enough.
05:18:12.960
Cause I'll, my guy friends will be like, why don't you want to be with her?
05:18:25.760
Like people would wait, you know, or even not, but you'd wait like longer periods of
05:18:34.180
But like, if a guy would not, like if the threshold was marriage, like men would then
05:18:45.400
filter out those women he wasn't interested in.
05:18:49.740
But so now the onus is on women to filter out correctly because now the sort of status
05:18:56.060
quo with dating is like at least the more, I mean, people have different, you know, whatever,
05:19:01.860
but the expectation is like have sex relatively early on.
05:19:13.720
Like, even if a woman doesn't want to just have casual sex, for her to have casual sex,
05:19:24.080
Like, even if the woman's like not that into one night stands or like just hooking up quick,
05:19:28.780
they will make exceptions if the guy's really hot.
05:19:34.920
Like if a man's like trying to get casual sex, he's going to go with like, yeah, someone
05:20:00.080
Just literally let her know how you're feeling.
05:20:10.840
And then the other thing is that these women are like perpetually perma never attracted
05:20:19.480
So it's like, if I was just fucking supermodels, but none of them wanted to actually date me,
05:20:26.380
but like all these supermodels or like really attractive girls or whatever were like, you
05:20:37.880
I would like the girl who actually, oh, Brian, I want to date you.
05:20:47.940
I would not be attracted to her because I had a taste of the good life.
05:21:35.660
It just depends on if we have similar interests.
05:21:39.660
I mean, that's kind of what it was for my fiance.
05:21:57.000
I think as long as they align with morals and values.
05:21:59.520
Then the other things that are typically looked at as average.
05:22:05.700
As long as you are aligning on the core beliefs.
05:22:07.900
And the fundamentals is going to be a good foundation for a long-lasting relationship.
05:22:36.120
But what would the average rating be if 1,000 men rated you?
05:23:06.060
I mean, I just can't give, like, another genuine answer.
05:23:11.980
Because I don't, how am I supposed to think, like, what every guy's thinking or know that?
05:23:20.600
Is it possible that any of the men of 1,000 would rate you less than a 10?
05:23:31.040
So, what if I told you that the majority of the men might rate you less than a 10?
05:23:47.840
Or is this, like, actually you think 1,000 men, the average would be 10?
05:23:53.520
I'm going to say 7 just because that guy said that not to pick it.
05:24:03.220
Don't you think you would be, if you're, like, a 10, don't you think you would be married?
05:24:16.480
I don't even think out of 10,000 men, they would all rate young Megan Fox a 10.
05:24:23.180
Yeah, I don't, yeah, I don't even think, like, you have, you show them, like, a supermodel.
05:24:33.160
I can bring it down to, like, an eight and a half, a nine.
05:24:36.280
Like, I can bring it down, but I'm not going to make it below.
05:24:45.300
Hey, don't, don't discredit the acne right now.
05:24:47.740
I just got out of a relationship that was really stressful, so.
05:24:50.520
Wait, hold on, it has nothing to do with acne, but, all right, what do you think, 1,000 men
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I don't know, I'm just going based off of, like, every day going out into the world.
05:25:31.180
You say the rating thing is destructive, though.
05:25:36.180
Again, I kind of already laid out my position on this, but I think it's destructive when you
05:25:41.760
have a bunch of women who can't, like, make a somewhat accurate self-assessment of how
05:25:48.920
And then they're going to think, like, would you agree that if somebody, can somebody be
05:25:59.260
If they said, you know, I'm the best looking person in the world and majority of people
05:26:07.700
If it's not coming from a place of loving yourself and coming more of a place of, I think I'm better
05:26:19.120
I mean, I don't know necessarily why that would matter so much.
05:26:28.180
Really quick, I think somebody can be delusional and they can be like, no, but I think everybody
05:26:33.420
else is also really pretty and they're not, like, egotistical about it in the sense that
05:26:40.040
Or they can also be like, I'm a 10, but they're not.
05:26:43.060
And then they can be like, and I'm hotter than all these other bitches.
05:26:49.540
They obviously think they're better looking than certain guys if they're being incredibly
05:26:55.000
Because they're doing the same thing that I feel like guys are doing with the rating
05:27:05.820
Well, I mean, but that's just demonstrably not true.
05:27:10.240
There are people, like, do you agree that some people, excuse me, some people are more,
05:27:16.460
regardless of rating, some people are more attractive than others?
05:27:33.060
Mean, vain people go by that really narrow scale according to the conventional attractiveness
05:27:40.440
And the conventional attractiveness scales confers pretty privilege and benefits to those who
05:27:47.300
But I think for me, and this is the issue I have sometimes with trying to relate to some
05:27:56.680
For me to think someone's attractive, I have to get to know them.
05:27:59.700
Because I've met some people I initially thought were attractive and then they said something.
05:28:04.200
Yeah, I can't just look at someone and just say, you're hot, I want to be with you forever.
05:28:11.420
Like if we're talking about total attraction, but there is just purely physical looks.
05:28:17.020
Like for example, there might be somebody who's like a massive piece of shit, but I can still
05:28:23.960
That girl is beautiful, but she's also a terrible person.
05:28:27.400
I can't, it's just, it's the whole deal or nothing.
05:28:30.360
Yeah, the totality of the attractiveness, sure.
05:28:33.760
But also, and if you just, okay, I'm not even going to engage just because I've just met
05:28:39.380
a lot of people who might not be conventionally.
05:28:51.040
This person's definitely an inso and that's why they're commenting and paying $200.
05:28:54.960
Actually, I know that guy, he has a huge penis and he fucks bitches all day, every day.
05:29:05.300
I just meet a lot of people who might not be conventionally attracted, but they're really
05:29:13.680
Okay, but I think we shouldn't always appeal necessarily to like the outlier case or whatever.
05:29:20.700
I acknowledge that attraction is not strictly just looks, but when we're talking about just
05:29:30.800
Yes, I can't separate just looks from someone's entire personality or being.
05:29:35.620
So just to be clear, you would be equally attracted to, I don't even know if you can make this
05:29:41.440
determination, two people with the same exact personality, all the positive traits that
05:29:46.480
One of them is butt ugly and one of them is the most handsome man ever.
05:29:52.700
The attraction you feel to these two people is exactly the same.
05:29:56.460
It would depend on, I'd have to interact with them.
05:30:02.880
That's one of the things I've discovered trying to make friends as an adult.
05:30:05.820
Sometimes I meet people I have everything in common with on paper.
05:30:10.520
How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
05:30:14.760
Honestly, if I didn't have breakfast this morning, I did, but I might feel...
05:30:23.620
No, it's not part of the real world, hypotheticals.
05:30:30.220
Well, I can make a hypothetical about anything.
05:30:32.080
What if you were stranded on a desert island with two of the most hideous men you've ever
05:30:39.300
Oh, I was about to ask you if you would and you can't say no.
05:30:43.080
That's the kind of hypotheticals you're setting up.
05:30:48.100
For her viewpoints and how she sees things, I think she's relating your questions and this
05:30:58.880
Or not just me, but you give a lot of ridiculous hypotheticals that never happen.
05:31:05.260
What's your hypothetical that you wanted to post?
05:31:10.880
If you're on an island with two guys that you're not attracted to at all, which one would
05:31:25.320
You sometimes set up questions like that where you're like, you can't say this or you can't
05:31:31.180
The hypotheticals sometimes are just a bit ridiculous.
05:31:37.900
The comparison you're making does not map on to the framework of the hypotheticals I've
05:31:45.680
It reminds me of, like, when I was in junior high, I became a vegetarian, and people would
05:31:50.720
ask me all the time, Emily, if you were stranded on a desert island with nothing but pigs, would
05:31:56.840
Like, when am I going to get stranded on a desert island with nothing but pigs?
05:32:08.600
Who do you know has gotten stranded on a desert island with pigs?
05:32:13.620
Well, you can make anything a hypothetical, no matter how ridiculous it is.
05:32:17.860
But the point of the hypothetical is to test the logic.
05:32:27.960
I think there's some hypotheticals that can be very illogical, and you're just asking it
05:32:32.940
It's possible that a hypothetical could be illogical, but none of the hypotheticals I've presented
05:32:45.060
So, did she answer my hypothetical, by the way, or did she just do this obfuscation thing?
05:32:51.480
I don't even remember what the hypothetical was.
05:32:53.880
She was saying, well, I need to like the person to be attracted to them.
05:32:58.080
The hypothetical was, you have two people, and they have...
05:33:03.060
Oh, it just is going to depend on how well I mesh with one, so...
05:33:08.600
Their personality is identical, but one is butt ugly, and one is beautiful.
05:33:12.600
You'd think, but I've met people I've had everything in common with on paper, and then
05:33:18.640
There's nothing logically inconsistent with this hypothetical.
05:33:21.300
I don't know, the baked-in assumption when I say that they're identical personality is
05:33:27.860
that you would get along with both of them, you'd get along just as equally well.
05:33:32.820
So, then you're presented with the variable of one is super ugly, and one is really good
05:33:42.100
But you said that in order for you to feel physical attraction for somebody, you need
05:33:54.600
I guess I'd be caught in a love triangle, so...
05:34:00.760
When you guys bring up these freaking ridiculous takes, don't be upset that we go fucking late,
05:34:05.260
because I've been in a loop with you guys, and I don't know, I can't believe I have to
05:34:13.200
get into the weeds and explain, like, break down elementary level, just super easy hypothetical
05:34:21.000
that can just be answered, oh, I'd take this guy, I'd take...
05:34:24.040
Even if you'd take the ugly guy, at least that's an answer, right?
05:34:28.080
Well, I don't agree with hypothetical, blah, blah, okay.
05:34:35.200
Okay, anybody else want to take a crack at answering the hypothetical?
05:34:51.020
I don't know what her, like, sexual preference is, but, like, pansexuals don't care about how
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So, like, I, like, some people literally actually don't have an attraction.
05:35:05.160
Like, that's, like, not something that, like, you know...
05:35:08.440
It's, like, a small percentage of humans, but there are humans that are like that, and
05:35:13.600
Like, she could be, like, not caring about looks at all.
05:35:23.120
But even if it was the case for her, this wouldn't map on to the broader general reality
05:35:37.280
Do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time?
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Her prime was, like, 40, because, like, her cheekbones, she just lost all her baby fat,
05:36:19.340
I feel like my body would definitely be better now than, like, when I'm 40.
05:36:48.260
Women pick the bear over the man, but they freak the fuck out if they see, like, a spider
05:37:09.760
I think the only time I'll look the best is when I'm a skeleton, so...
05:37:19.120
I think I'm going to be in my prime in 10 years.
05:37:45.040
I would say, like, a woman's peak would be in her 30s, possibly.
05:37:58.060
I'm going to be the granny that you want to fuck.
05:38:01.860
All right, um, okay, so it sounds like better looking 10, 20, 30, 40 years.
05:38:19.580
But, will you be better looking at 39 versus now at 19?
05:38:33.920
And then, um, as time has gone on, I have, uh, taken better care of myself.
05:38:46.760
Okay, and then are you better looking now at 31, or are you better looking at 21?
05:38:50.700
Um, surprisingly now, because I was not really taking care of myself at 21.
05:38:59.720
And then, better looking now, or better looking at 20?
05:39:04.040
And I shared that picture with you guys of my weight loss and everything.
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Is that because of, like, weight loss or whatever?
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If you were your current weight at 20, would you be better looking at 20?
05:39:23.680
The weight loss was actually within the past few years.
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We, we, I sent a private investigator to your house.
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I know I'm hideous enough to make anyone vomit.
05:42:03.100
You just need to compare all four of them at this point.
05:42:48.380
So you're saying that I'm really good at, like, exaggerating and lies and everything.
05:42:58.740
If I identify as conservative over here with morals and values and integrity.
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Do you want to ask us if we think we look better?
05:43:59.460
Yeah, it's just would you date the male version of you.
05:45:01.040
Well, at least I'd know what male Emily or Emilio would have in common with me and how
05:46:14.780
He looks like the guy who just murdered his underage girlfriend.
05:47:08.140
I was going to say, I'm always curious, like, what do the brothers look like?
05:47:17.260
Well, I feel like we'd have to ask their permission and be like, hey,
05:47:30.520
Yeah, you guys can show me off camera just for my own gayness or whatever.
05:48:03.260
I honestly think, like, he just needed better teeth.
05:48:25.380
If Sina was a dude, so she'd be like this little nerdy Asian dude, but with a massive
05:48:49.120
And you would join a frat, and you'd be like, yo, babes.
05:49:28.960
Whoever's doing these, by the way, have stepped up.
05:49:47.840
I actually have Indian, German, Welsh, Irish, and a couple other things.
05:50:19.680
It doesn't look like he would be related to you, honestly.
05:50:31.460
Like, when I look at this picture of you, Felicity, I think.
05:51:53.320
Dude, they should do a gender swap thing with young Brian.
05:52:40.640
So I want you, with my hypnotic voice, go to the looks tab.
05:52:52.280
The first one is going to be the one that triggered everybody.
05:53:05.160
So when we're talking about beauty, I know some of you were saying beauty is in the eye
05:53:11.000
Like, who here thinks looks are strictly subjective?
05:53:20.320
So I think that looks are subjective, but they're not strictly subjective.
05:53:25.060
I think there are objective components to beauty.
05:53:28.000
So I want to ask you guys, which one looks is more attractive?
05:53:54.940
Yeah, but if they see that and you say that one of them is ugly, it might be really bad.
05:54:09.260
You've done this before, and you're just trying to get someone to pick, say, one woman's ugly
05:54:23.520
Two people can be beautiful, but one of them can be more attractive.
05:54:44.560
The one on the left looked like my ex, so I got to go with the right.
05:55:05.940
I should have done hand raises, because I feel like it's the domino effect.
05:55:24.840
Now, I've been accused of this being racist, blah, blah, blah.
05:55:28.840
So, I'm going to present to you, just to show that it's not about race or anything like
05:55:34.420
Nick, pull up the one below it, and then we're going to just tap.
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You have a white woman on the left, a black woman on the right.
05:56:20.100
I think that one, that girl might have some disability.
05:56:23.100
That woman's commented on her looks online because people give her off shit.
05:57:17.180
Everybody wants to call me a fucking racist whenever...
05:57:43.520
Also, I wanted to do the age thing really quick, Nick.
05:57:50.640
Look, the reality is, as you get older, you become less good looking.
05:57:55.120
Scroll up to Tara Reid, Nick, on that same tab.
05:59:04.740
Yeah, look, he's a good-looking guy, even when he's older.
05:59:10.080
Most women are going to be like, eh, he's still better-looking when he was younger.
05:59:29.740
I mean, she's still a good-looking woman for her 50s, but she was better-looking when she
06:00:40.640
I think she might be almost equally as attractive.
06:00:45.660
She's a very good-looking woman, but I don't think there's any dispute here.
06:00:55.900
I don't know if it's a black pill for the women.
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Through AI and stuff, but at the end of the day, like, we should all have this understanding.
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That's why it's important as you're growing up in the house that you're raised to understand
06:01:35.940
It is the morals on which people are able to see in how you present and treat others
06:01:43.880
It's the gentle and quiet spirit that Paul talks about in the New Testament as what women
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should have instead of adorning themselves with all the jewelry and the fine clothes
06:01:53.040
So, yes, it's a great reminder for us out there, but apart from that, that's all I have
06:01:59.420
When people talk about their female relatives at funeral eulogies, they never talk about
06:02:09.300
I'm just saying, I don't think that's the most important thing.
06:02:16.480
I think it really should be the least interesting quality about someone.
06:02:21.100
Well, maybe not least interesting because we're all born with certain features, you know,
06:02:26.180
and some are more lovely or well-defined than others, but definitely not something that you
06:02:30.900
think that would be an obituary versus their service.
06:02:37.740
I was going to say, so besides the fact of looks and they do have the personality or
06:02:44.100
the traits or the characteristics of, you know, like, I guess, a traditional woman that
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stated in the Bible and the person that they're dealing with don't, for say, care about that,
06:03:00.800
Because what if they just use you and abuse you after that fact or point?
06:03:08.540
Are you talking about, so you have all the characteristics in the Bible and then someone
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Most definitely try to work with that and use it.
06:03:23.340
Yeah, well, at the end of the day, and this was things that I struggled with with my husband
06:03:36.520
And there was a lot of changes in what he would say about my looks and how he viewed me and
06:03:42.680
not wanting to have sex with me and things like that.
06:03:45.200
The hurt very deeply, but my worth was not defined in what men said about me.
06:03:50.700
That is something that my mother taught me and that I learned being away from my spouse
06:03:57.760
during that time was that's not how God sees me.
06:04:01.780
God made me fearfully and wonderfully, as it says in Psalms 139.
06:04:07.140
And because we're made in the image of God, God created us with the features that we have.
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And he knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that that was the best thing that he could give us.
06:04:20.700
And not even just going past the physical inwardly, God knew that within each and every
06:04:27.420
one of us, there was this sense of humility and compassion and empathy and love and patience
06:04:38.180
So in the Bible, it also says that a woman is worth more than rubies.
06:04:43.240
And for women who want to find a husband, like, for women, they are their husband's crown.
06:04:51.960
So when you're going throughout life and you're in situations where that person abused you,
06:05:12.420
And I understand, like, women wanting to have that value for a man, especially if you want
06:05:21.320
to be a traditional wife, because it's a dream that I've had.
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You know, you give your all and you give that to them and they take it for granted.
06:05:36.780
Well, when they take it all for granted, they made that decision.
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You're left broken and you're left feeling hurt.
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That's what I did in my situation as a Christian.
06:05:55.240
And I said, Lord, remind me of who I am and how you see me, because there's going to be
06:06:01.840
people that come in and out of my life that are going to have different opinions about
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And so that was going to scripture and finding those verses that I mentioned.
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But at the end of the day, your value is never, never going to change based on what
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I don't know some of the things that he spoke over to you.
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I don't know what he did to you, but that was him coming from his place of hurt or narcissism
06:06:46.160
or whatever it was, his trauma that was on him and hurt people, hurt people.
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I'm sorry that he hurt you, but please don't stay stuck in the hurt.
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Please view avenues of having friendships and people that speak life into you and reading
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I encourage you to, to have your own conversation with God.
06:07:11.980
Okay, guys, we have to, I have to ask some questions.
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Um, so the statement is, or it says, if you agree with the statement, circle the number,
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Oh, um, because when you're looking for, when you're dating a man, just in general, like
06:07:38.240
I could go be with a woman, but if I'm choosing to be with a man, I'm looking at him as a provider
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and as someone who can add on to my life and never take away.
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So, and as a provider, I need to see like, this is your time to shine.
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Like, show me what you got because I have like a bunch of other men that I could give
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So yeah, like now's your time to shine and show me like how romantic you could be.
06:08:14.640
Um, and if you can't do that, then like, don't even waste my time.
06:08:21.560
Um, I think, well, usually like a man takes asking me on a date, so I don't expect to
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That's just like, it makes sense that they're going to pay.
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Like, why would you ask somebody out and not pay?
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So you think like, if you ask a guy out, you should pay?
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If I'm, if I'm like, oh yeah, like let's, if I'm planning a whole thing, like I'm, I'm
06:08:47.000
Okay, uh, what years were World War I or what decade?
06:11:03.960
Name three countries you can't repeat each other's answers, starting with you.
06:11:45.780
Uh, Bolivia, Brazil, and we'll do South Africa.
06:12:08.680
What other, like, world questions do we have besides those?
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He's saying it's a very small proportion of men that even do this.
06:13:56.620
I do have some further questions, though, in the spirit of Felicity's intellectually
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Anybody here have a roster or ever had a roster?
06:14:25.920
No, I can't date multiple people at the same time.
06:15:15.100
I was going to say, I feel like she would know it better than the Canadian.
06:15:37.420
Sina, can you sing the Canadian national anthem?
06:16:20.200
Anybody here, not a one-night stand, but you slept with someone the same day you met them?
06:16:32.040
You didn't fuck a guy the same day you met him?
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Like you could end up being in a long-term relationship with them, but you fucked him right away.
06:17:18.760
You said last time you promised me you were going to bring me some poutine.
06:17:24.320
After the show and before the show, you're like, oh my god, Brian.
06:17:33.880
You also said that you want to genocide the country.
06:18:06.820
She also, one time, she kicked a baby in the face.
06:18:28.040
Oh, is it the deal breaker if a guy uses the word retard or retarded?
06:18:37.440
I don't think it's the deal breaker, but I explained that I never want him to ever say
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And if that's a problem, then I guess the deal breaker.
06:18:47.320
Like, he doesn't say it every day, but like three times a week.
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I'm not a fan of the term, but a lot of people my age tend to use it.
06:19:01.480
Like, when I was in junior high, everyone used it.
06:19:03.320
I think some people kept that as a holdover, so I'm not going to hold it against them.
06:19:08.760
For a period there, they were making good gains, good territory on the retard, but I
06:19:15.640
think we've pushed back the line, and we're retaking retard.
06:19:21.220
I just have retarded family members, so when I say that word, I feel sick.
06:19:36.200
No, but, like, I feel, like, sick saying that word when I have literally...
06:19:46.420
I thought you were using it in the joking term.
06:19:50.980
Whoa, you're not supposed to call retarded people retards.
06:20:05.660
Well, you acknowledged it first, so you need to say it first.
06:20:17.420
I would never call a special needs person retarded.
06:20:24.640
They're going to show your retarded family members this.
06:20:26.780
I mean, this is a special needs family members this.
06:20:29.980
And they're going to be like, wow, she called me retarded.
06:20:38.900
But for me to say that word, it just doesn't feel right for me.
06:21:08.280
Like, you could give me the pass, wouldn't say it.
06:21:11.380
Yeah, and I feel like because I'm kind of retarded, I can give people the retard pass.
06:21:17.140
Like, maybe, Sina, you'd be like, you know, I don't really want to say that word.
06:21:25.380
No, you can't call me it, but you can just be...
06:22:14.780
Well, I feel like, can't you be Latina and white?
06:23:32.320
Because, like, Sean Williams is, like, an old man.
06:23:46.380
Those are the two people from, like, the White Chicks movie.
06:24:01.900
I definitely know a couple people dating his daughters.
06:24:20.280
So, deal breaker about the retard thing, I guess.
06:24:27.400
So, what does a man need to, ah, we already talked about, like, what men need to bring
06:24:36.920
What is, because we've been talking about feminism, I think it's important to make distinctions.
06:24:52.880
Um, a human being that bears, that can bear life, and that are extremely intuitive and,
06:25:05.140
And I think that they have, I think that women are healers, and that we're here to heal.
06:25:34.280
You know I'm going to ask you a question first.
06:25:38.420
You know I'm going to ask you a question first.
06:25:43.280
Do you mean woman as in sex or woman as in gender?
06:25:52.060
In terms of sex, it's a person with a vagina and uterus.
06:26:10.020
I just gave it to you, at least in terms of sex.
06:26:15.100
I think it's a person who embodies feminine spirit and says they're a woman.
06:26:34.620
Just if someone feels like they have, if they embody feminine energy more than masculine,
06:26:45.040
So, it's really just someone, it's really just someone with the feminine.
06:26:55.820
Um, I think, I think a woman, I think it, like, I think her, I agree with her statement
06:27:25.880
You are just the cutest little Guatemalan girl I've ever seen.
06:27:43.400
You're just so cute with your little, you know, whatever.
06:28:21.820
I want you to use my preferred pronouns, though.
06:28:24.580
Which are his royal majesty, your royal majesty.
06:28:32.960
It was really rude when you didn't greet me that way at the door.
06:28:42.820
I'll go with the flow, but you do have to let me know up front sometimes.
06:28:46.480
And then, actually, you mentioned the bow video earlier.
06:28:48.960
The reason I demand a bow is because I identify as a king.
06:29:14.700
That is the most man thing I've ever heard you say.
06:30:55.360
Yeah, I don't think baddie's limited to male or female.
06:31:52.000
Apparently, women can't make machine gun noises.
06:32:53.760
Look, you think you're going to make 10 mil a year with this kind of attitude?
06:34:33.420
Well, my machine gun's soft, so it's going to go ratatata.
06:35:31.440
But I generally don't know what it sounds like.
06:36:26.000
For the feminists out there, for the sake of equality, should women raise their sensibilities
06:36:30.660
to that of men, or should men lower their sensibilities to that of women?
06:36:42.620
I mean, you should have done the sound first instead of precedence for us to follow.
06:36:49.720
No, I'm not going to do it, but just thought I'd say women apparently can't do machine gun
06:37:08.460
Do you think women are better communicators than men?
06:37:25.000
Raise your hands up if you think women are better communicators generally.
06:37:30.180
Obviously, there's a guy who's a better communicator than a girl.
06:37:35.540
They both can suck, but I think women can communicate with each other or in general.
06:37:42.740
I think women talk more, but that doesn't wait to affect each other more communication.
06:37:52.420
I think counselors would sit there and say that communication is terrible between both
06:37:59.060
Because I hear women say men are bad communicators.
06:38:40.200
I feel like women aren't that good of actors, you know?
06:38:50.340
No, it's really hard for them to fake because they have to come.
06:39:27.080
Remember that photo that we took of you at your house?
06:39:33.620
We actually got a DNA sample and we actually share.
06:40:14.440
If a man tells you, doesn't ask, straight up tells you that for the first six dates, he's
06:40:21.240
buying groceries for you and you're cooking dinner for him, which of you take that deal?
06:40:31.480
I feel like I kind of fucked that up, but the font is hard to read.
06:40:39.460
I think I'd be like, I'm going to make this today, tomorrow I'm going to make that, and
06:40:55.240
Should women raise their sensibilities to that of men, or should men lower their sensibilities
06:41:03.300
Yeah, Vector, clarify what do you mean by sensibilities?
06:41:07.800
And then Christopher sent in a follow-up, but yo, Christopher, thank you for the chat.
06:41:37.520
Guys, like the video if you're enjoying the stream.
06:41:41.780
We've got to try to blast through the final few things here.
06:41:55.060
When you do get married, will you take your husband's last name?
06:42:07.660
I'm keeping my last name, but I'm also taking my husband's.
06:42:37.940
You look like the female version of Ray Liotta from Goodfellas.
06:42:48.680
Look into this camera right here, right here, this one, right here, and then smile.
06:43:37.800
That's literally what he looks like, but with a huge beard.
06:44:02.520
Click the one where he's in that suit in the middle there, the guardian.
06:45:17.440
You guys want guys to pay for dates, but you want the...
06:45:33.360
Well, no, I never said I wanted someone traditional.
06:45:36.540
I will take a guy out on a date, like if I ask him out.
06:45:53.420
You want the good things about traditional and the good things about...
06:46:05.560
People need to stop thinking they can't have it all.
06:46:09.240
Like, whoever's selling you, you can't have that.
06:46:16.960
So why should we hold men to traditional gender roles if you won't hold to female traditional
06:46:23.660
No, I think you should hold the men that want to be like that and the women that want to
06:46:37.360
But you said the people who are not traditional should find the not traditional.
06:46:43.400
But also, there's lots of people who mix both of those things.
06:46:47.620
Why are we still holding on to the old traditional ways?
06:46:50.660
Like, it's all about, like, you know, like, we're trying to level up.
06:46:56.380
Like, it's okay to change the traditional ways.
06:46:59.600
Well, my quarrel with that, and look, I'm prepared to say that I don't think, like, when
06:47:04.900
I think about traditional behavior, I'd put it on a spectrum.
06:47:09.920
Otherwise, like, okay, somebody who's not a virgin, are they traditional?
06:47:16.200
Both people can still enjoy traditional gender roles, but neither of them are virgin.
06:47:21.700
Like, that wouldn't be, like, preclude you from being in a traditional dynamic.
06:47:27.680
But I think on the preponderance of the evidence, that's not evidence, on the bulk of it, you
06:47:39.960
But what I see is women want men to lean as fully into tradition as possible.
06:47:45.340
And these are typically things that benefit women, but they want to, like, abandon, revoke,
06:47:50.660
just do away with all the traditional gender expectations on women.
06:47:54.960
Well, tell me one traditional thing that women should do.
06:47:59.560
Well, you can say men should pay for dates, men should be protectors.
06:48:06.700
Allow a space for their man to be vulnerable and for that person to, like, be the person they
06:48:13.660
can come to, to, you know, be uplifted, be comforted.
06:48:23.760
I mean, I don't mind being, like, you know, the traditional housewife or whatever, but,
06:48:30.380
like, I just feel like there needs to be a balance.
06:49:01.500
Do you think I'd be, would it be a good look for me, you think?
06:49:13.980
It's very, like, flapper girl, like, 20s hairstyle.
06:49:31.740
How much do you, would you do it for free, right?
06:49:34.840
You wouldn't just do that shit for the fun of it?
06:49:39.980
You kind of call me average, so I'm kind of going to have to, like, you know, treat you
06:49:51.260
We were talking about, like, all the rapid fire questions.
06:49:57.020
I mean, I already said what I thought, so you could go ahead.
06:50:03.360
But you just, okay, men, space so that men can be vulnerable.
06:50:16.380
Oh, were you raising your hand, or are you just scratching the lice out of your head?
06:50:36.380
Okay, so if we can say men should pay on dates, men should provide, protect, men should be chivalrous.
06:50:45.100
If the woman is, like, holding that, if the woman is holding that man to the standard, these are not my standards, but, like, for women that want something traditional, then the woman should do the traditional role.
06:50:55.620
If the man is going to be on that time, then the woman should be on that time and be, like, housewife vibes, cleaning, cooking.
06:51:02.000
If the man is going to provide 100%, that's not the lifestyle I want to live.
06:51:05.960
But, you know, I think if you hold the man to the standard, then the man should hold the woman to, like, the traditional standard.
06:51:13.040
Well, just really quick from the questionnaire.
06:51:43.800
Well, you should go slap the shit out of your parents, then.
06:51:59.860
Wait, is this your nickname, Kelsey, or you hyphenate?
06:52:22.780
That was a discussion that we had, and he actually talked about changing his name to-
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But if I were to remarry, I would completely take his name, because I don't need my last
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name for family business purposes going forward.
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That's a cool, that's kind of a cool last name.
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I guess it goes along with a politician thing, you know, I guess, that you were saying earlier.
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We were talking about the top three things that women circled here on the paper.
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So all of you, like, I mean, I guess you only circled men should pay on first dates.
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Well, you have the men should pay on first dates expectation.
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But I will take my men out on a date after he's taking me out.
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Yeah, you've been dating a guy for two years and two years in.
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I've taken guys out, like, on the second date when they paid for the first one.
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I would say, like, being respectful is one of them, acknowledging that.
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So, like, for me, if I was to go out on a date with a guy, I would be thanking him for paying for the dinner,
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even though women have, like, this preset notion and expectation that men need to pay for everything.
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I think that just acknowledging that they did that speaks a lot of volumes and really separates you apart from other women
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that are vying for attention for that guy or whatever.
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No, I was saying, like, acknowledging them, thanking them, and respecting them.
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Protecting them, bringing that, being feminine, just really doing that.
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Here, we'll do that in a bit, but read this, Felicity.
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Sensibilities such as women can interact with each other in ways that if a man were to interact with a woman that way,
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they would be seen as a creep, I hope I made sense here.
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So, men raise the sensibility, or women lower sensibilities?
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So, like, communicating, like women typically do between each other, maybe?
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Would you feel blessed if Charlie Kirk was your husband?
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Is this directed at Kelsey, or the whole panel?
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I know, because I don't want my husband to get sniped.
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I would say I would feel blessed if my husband had godly moral values, was the leader, the
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protector, was one who was there for his family, and we see those qualities and characteristics
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At the end of the day, he was a man who went home to his wife.
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He was setting a precedence that other young men were to follow.
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Like, he called them up to a higher standard in a society where we see a lot of men are
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not doing anything to help younger men, or there's just this lack of mentorship.
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Charlie was trying to be a mentor and trying to encourage men that, hey, you can be more
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You can be more than what other people in your community are saying.
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You can be the man that you were created by God to be.
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I think you've got to do and explain like I'm five.
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Break it down super easy, Vector, for what you want them to.
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I don't think pulling it up again, I don't think they'll be able to parse it.
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So just Vector, just send in a ten and we'll treat it as, you know, a clarification follow-up.
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Oh, we've got some pre-show notes we have to get into.
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But seriously, what do women bring to the table, I guess?
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Are you talking about on the date or were you talking about just in general?
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Because I did my answer based on the first date when you were saying about the men paying
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Because what can women actually really do on a first date?
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I mean, obviously you can be pleasant and all this sort of thing.
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That's why I kept it like surfacy with like acknowledge, respecting and everything.
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Long term, more of the traditional roles of housewife, caretaker, the giver, the emotional
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caregiver being there, creating that safe space like what Erica talked about doing for
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Well, I think, yeah, on the long term, women are able to start doing their part of it.
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But at the beginning, I can't actually think of like anything gender specific really.
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Like on the first date that women really bring, I mean, but it's like, I was going to, you
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know, obviously that she, she should be pleasant.
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She should have a certain ease to her that it's not a pain in the ass to actually end
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But that's just like, that would apply to men too.
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I, I think on the first date, like I'll, I'll, the girl should come back to my place and
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she should just fold the shit out of my laundry.
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I'd find that very strange from the first date.
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I know I can do laundry on my own, but you know, it's like, it's so much more rewarding.
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Like the clothes feel softer after a woman's folded them.
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That sounds like what my mom says about salads.
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If they taste better when someone else makes the salad, I'm like, how is that possible?
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Which, you know, it's just, you know, you could just bring the laundry with you on the
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first date and be like, Hey, I got the laundry basket in the back of my car.
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Just, just see, maybe that's your prerequisite.
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I haven't found someone to actually fold my socks.
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Look, I, I don't, I, I've found, I've found women.
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It's not like I've, I've had found women who fold my shit.
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Uh, no, like I, look, here's what you do, right?
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But look, and, but what's crazy to me is like these dudes, these girls will like fuck a
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guy on the first date, whatever, first time meeting.
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I don't mind that either, but, uh, well, at least only for me, it's gross if they do with
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like, it's gross if they do with other guys, but like, whatever, you want to fuck me right
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Um, but anyways, I can't, thank you for sharing.
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It's like, look, the girls will sleep with a guy on the first date.
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You'll let a guy deposit his ejaculate deep into the pipe.
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Why do I go crazy into the back of the woman's throat on or on your face or on your hair or
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Sometimes, sometimes as a guy, you got to aim there or whatever, just to assert dominance.
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Uh, don't, don't put in the hair unless you want to her, you know, unless you, you want
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to help her style her hair, you know, you know, uh, sperm is actually really good.
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So, but I'm just saying like, you know what I mean?
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No, nobody wants flaky white gel in their hair.
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No, I'm saying you just put it on your hair and it dries.
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I'm just saying y'all will do kind of crazy sexual shit, whatever, but just wholesome
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Like you guys want to suck and fuck and do all this crazy shit.
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Put some music, put some Enya on while you fold.
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I don't know if I'd go back to someone's apartment on the first date.
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I just feel like it's a good way to get murdered.
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I do have safety concerns when I do invite a woman over.
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I don't know why you do it on the first date then.
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Like what if she's Canadian and she makes my shit smell like maple syrup?
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Well, you know, she could also just clean my bathroom.
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I have churning butter before it takes two hours at least.
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There's so many more modern ways to make butter, Brian.
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Kelsey, if you were my, if I was on a date with you, Kelsey, you know, I wouldn't ask you
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I would ask you about the important things, like.
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You know, look, I could probably afford a cleaner, but there's just something so romantic
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You shouldn't want her to touch or do anything.
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My daughter maybe would be my princess, but no.
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I'm going to start a cleaning service called Queen Cleaning.
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Yes, but I just think your man should be able to provide, like, someone to clean
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Like, why are you fucking him and being his maid and being his mommy and cleaning?
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And then she can find someone that doesn't make her clean.
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You know, a woman does not have to clean my bathroom.
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You know, a man doesn't have to pay for the date.
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Like, I hope you find everything that you want in this life.
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Like, a woman doesn't have to fold the laundry.
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No, because a woman doesn't have to bow for me.
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They call me a woman name because they know how I pronounce her name.
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Is that like a Jewish name from the 40s or something?
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They might as well have named you Olga or something.
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No, I literally get so mad when people call me that.
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Um, uh, Sina, you say a woman's past should matter.
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Um, so to you four, uh, you say a woman's past should not matter.
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Because it shouldn't determine, um, what, how other people view you.
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And I just, I think anything, anything that involves judgment should just not be like,
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I mean, you wouldn't date a guy below six, two and who makes less than 10 million a year.
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My standard, it would be a woman who's not a strumpet.
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I think it's a really, I don't know, rude thing to ask on the first date.
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I think at some point in the relationships I've been in the past, it does kind of come
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up because you ask, you're curious what someone's relationships in the past have been like.
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But I just don't ever really hear a lot of people talk about body counts and outside
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I mean, even amongst, I like eavesdropping and I've worked a lot of jobs where I've been
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So I've kind of eavesdropped some older guys' conversations.
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And they, they might talk about someone if they're very promiscuous, but I've never been
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And I don't know, I feel like it's a losing battle.
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I just think it's, at least on the context of the show, because I know the question's
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It's going to be a bit of a losing battle because no matter what you say, there's always someone
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who's going to say, multiply it by three, even if it's just one person.
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So I guess some of you think body count shouldn't matter.
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We'll just, I guess, body count shouldn't matter.
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Oh, well, actually, since I shed my uterus walls every month, I'm a reborn virgin every
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Everyone that has touched me inside, like, they're no longer there.
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Or what is it where, like, or maybe it's only of women who've given birth or something,
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but, like, there is some sort of medical study.
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You know what's crazy, too, is that men, they're, you know, snakes?
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And we actually also become virgins after the monthly sheddings.
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So you'll be at the movies, like, watching Transformers.
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And you just let dick skin, like, your skin dick.
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I was on a date with a guy, and he said he had to leave because of that.
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This one time I was dating this girl who had fetish, and she was like,
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But she was asking me to do it, and I was like, whoa.
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And she wanted to be like, yeah, I want to absorb that shit.
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Well, you've had three boyfriends, but how many?
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Careful, don't you dare put me in with everything.
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It says here in the notes, your longest relationship was three years.
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Let's say even granting that all three of your boyfriends were three years long.
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Sounds like you've had long periods of celibacy.
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You should be on Who Wants to Be a Millionaire.
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I do like Jeopardy, but I don't think I'm smart enough.
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I think I work better with the dead than the living.
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I do my best to help people, but I'm more of a...
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I like to do the embalming portion sometimes in talking to families.
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Multiply it by three, and that's the real number.
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For the body count, Felicity, can you read this from Vector?
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If random woman puts a hand on shoulder of other woman, emotional connection.
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But if man puts a hand on a random woman, ew, assault vibes.
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Well, yes, but like my family just never like puts their arms or like hands on each other's
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And then when I was a student at IU, I saw people doing that when they talked.
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If a random woman did that, to me, I would be a little weirded out depending on the context.
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I'm from the Midwest, so it's got its own special level of weird.
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A woman should not be rejected because of her weight, to which Emily, you agree.
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A woman should not be rejected because of her weight.
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What would be wrong with rejecting a woman because of her weight?
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Well, I think especially if you're in a long-term relationship with someone, you know,
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the human body has different seasons of the life, and your body will change with time
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And I think people should understand that sometimes weight gain is a natural process.
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Especially if you're going to get pregnant, for example.
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But you'd, I mean, the question is not, the question is more so, like, you don't typically
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So by usage of the word reject, and I mean, I apologize if this isn't clear, I'm usually
07:21:36.240
Like, looking at the dating pool, like, what your preferences are, is that what you're
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Like, if an overweight person hits on you, and you're like, I don't want to be with you
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because I'm not attracted to people that are overweight, is that wrong?
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I was taking it as in, like, why would somebody reject someone that they're talking to in the
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Um, what are the circumstances under which people get rejected?
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Guys, guys, guys, here is the, here's the, the prompt.
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A woman should not be rejected because of her weight.
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It says nothing about being in a long-term relationship with them.
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It says nothing about you've been talking for one, two, three weeks.
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When we're talking about rejection, we're talking about, like, an immediate, upfront sort of thing.
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Is it okay to reject a woman because of her weight?
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I mean, you can still disagree, but, like, if I see a, how about this?
07:22:38.920
A fat girl comes up to me, and maybe when I was a little thinner, I was, I mean, I'd still
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Sina's going to have to show me her Korean skincare routine.
07:23:09.360
Would it be okay for me if a fat girl came up to me, and she was like,
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But she said, Ayo, Brian, let me clap them cheeks.
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She said that she's attracted to you, and she wants to go on a date.
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She says, Ayo, Brian, let me wear your skin as a suit.
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What would be wrong with me saying, sorry, I wouldn't even say, what would be wrong with
07:23:48.180
No one would ever know, because it's in your head.
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But if you say it to her, that's pretty crappy.
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Because, look, I just simply point out, women reject men for all kinds of reasons.
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Men can also reject women for pretty much any reason, too.
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Wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him down for sex.
07:24:23.660
And the reason why is because that man might not be taking care of himself.
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But, like, why would you be with that person then?
07:24:42.260
I tried to say, like, hey, if you can do this, such and such.
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And then he would be like, hey, let me know if I stink, because that's an insecurity of mine.
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But, yeah, he didn't want to take care of that insecurity when it was brought to his attention.
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Like, it was, like, the first couple months we started dating.
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I went over to his house, and I wanted to take a shower, and this is really bad.
07:25:36.600
And so I was like, I'm going to buy you a loofah, and I bought him a loofah, and, like,
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Okay, but when they don't learn, that's a different fact.
07:25:52.620
I think it's important to have a dialogue before you just kick someone to the curb about not
07:26:03.780
I have a good one related, well, I don't know if it's super related to hygiene, but
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would it be a deal breaker if the guy won't kiss you after you give him a head?
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I don't think it's a deal breaker, but it's weird.
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I think I would be like, I'm not coming back here.
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Is he not going to kiss his kids when they're born?
07:26:39.980
No, if her mouth is being used as a receptacle for semen, no, you can't.
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Even if it, you know, there's pre-cum and shit, no.
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No, no, it's okay that everybody has their own preferences.
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I don't want to do that after I don't want to kiss.
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But it has caused me, ladies, let me tell you, oh, my God, the amount of problems this
07:27:21.520
Some of them are, like, fine with it, but, like, some of them are, like, maybe.
07:27:27.880
I don't know what happens, but if she, like, goes to kissing, you're like, no, and, like,
07:27:32.140
slap her face away, maybe that's an issue, but.
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I think it's because he, like, if a guy did that to me, I think it's because he thinks
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He's dirty, and I would be like, what did I just do?
07:27:59.160
Oh, wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him down for sex?
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Let's, we can't do all of these for the sake of time, but we'll do a few more pre-show
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Women do not have equal rights to men in the USA.
07:28:42.700
Women do not have equal rights to men in the USA.
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I think I would, a few years ago, I would have, and I know it's a hot topic, but a few
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years ago, I would have probably been a little more inclined to say they do, but then after
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Roe versus Wade got overturned, I kind of disagree with that now, so.
07:29:00.440
Um, I just think of just all of the women who were rejected jobs or positions or just kind
07:29:12.540
of also, like, like my mom went through a really big issue at her job where this, one
07:29:21.140
of her supervisors was trying to just always, like, challenge her as a woman and hated the
07:29:29.880
And just seeing, like, those types of things, like, no, like, it's not equal.
07:29:35.060
Like, it's, we're constantly being challenged more.
07:29:45.820
And also, I have seen multiple of my entrepreneur friends that are male and female, and it's
07:29:54.080
literally so easy for a man to start a business and for, like, investors to take him seriously
07:30:03.340
Yeah, so, look, we can get into, like, in society, ways in, ways in which men and women
07:30:11.560
are mistreated or whatever, but the question is specifically about rights.
07:30:27.080
But, once again, I think the only thing I really split hairs on is Roe versus Wade.
07:30:30.900
Yeah, but really quick on Roe versus Wade or abortion or whatever, you do acknowledge
07:30:40.940
So, how would this be, like, an inequality of rights?
07:30:46.120
Listen, I just think that this is kind of a women's health care issue, and I think that,
07:30:52.820
you know, that's a very important thing, and the fact that.
07:30:55.980
What would that have to do with an inequality between men and women, though?
07:31:00.900
Men would have to possess a right that women don't.
07:31:05.900
So, the government, for example, like, if it, not that this would ever be the case, but
07:31:11.340
if men could say to their girlfriend, I want you to get an abortion, and she had to get
07:31:16.780
an abortion or something, I don't know how that would ever work, but whatever.
07:31:19.400
And, but women couldn't get an abortion, that would be unequal.
07:31:24.400
But men, men can't prevent abortion, men can't force women to get an abortion, so how would
07:31:47.080
Yeah, I mean, there's no, but men don't have any reproductive rights, men don't have really
07:31:54.880
It is a woman's issue, you could say, but it wouldn't be evidence of.
07:32:04.860
Actually, if you wanted equality between men and women, you would have to completely make
07:32:16.000
Well, basically, so if we're talking about equalizing rights, so currently, my position
07:32:24.660
Men, like I said, they can't force women to get abortions, and they can't prevent forcefully
07:32:32.480
So, in order for women to have equal rights to men, you'd basically, unless you bring
07:32:39.800
men up here, which I don't know how you do that, you'd have to bring women down here
07:32:46.740
So, you'd have to completely walk back women's abortion rights for there to be equality between
07:32:55.140
That's kind of in the weeds, Bill, like you have your W.
07:33:06.520
Equality would dictate women can have abortion rights.
07:33:23.380
You also write, women do not have, or sorry, no, my bad.
07:33:40.120
Well, I don't think it's bad compared to a lot of other countries.
07:33:45.560
I don't think, other than, once again, Roe versus Wade, I don't think there's any major
07:33:50.680
But I think there's little things, but I know you mentioned that you didn't really want to
07:34:07.040
It's not necessarily someone wakes up one day and they're like, I'm going to go be mean
07:34:13.400
But, like, for example, one time at a job I had, I had a, it was a really stressful day
07:34:22.720
One of the guys in the kitchen threw out a key component to a dessert I was making on
07:34:33.280
Could you please do this in the future so we don't have this issue again?
07:34:37.000
And he just wasn't getting, he just was convinced I was being hysterical at him.
07:34:46.200
And then a male co-worker explained the exact same thing to him in a similar manner and he
07:34:54.840
I don't know if that would be, like, evidence of oppression.
07:35:04.920
I don't know if it's necessarily due to sexism or any of this sort of thing.
07:35:08.940
I don't think it would be evidence of oppression, really.
07:35:24.840
How are men more privileged in society than women?
07:35:28.180
I mean, I already kind of explained a little bit about that on, like, the whole job situation.
07:35:36.300
I just think men have it way easier to be an entrepreneur, to get jobs.
07:35:48.940
One example, I believe, and it's kind of talking about the rating scales.
07:35:52.460
I believe men are allowed to age in a way that women aren't.
07:35:58.980
You know, I see a lot of elderly men, especially, like, celebrity elderly men, I don't always hear people say, well, he doesn't really let himself go.
07:36:13.120
And then it's kind of a catch-22, because if they're scared of aging naturally, like, for example, Pamela Anderson, I thought she looked great without her makeup.
07:36:23.120
But, you know, if women went the opposite way, where they got plastic surgery, fillers, Botox, then they'd be like, God, she's trying too hard.
07:36:36.240
Okay, but, I mean, so you're saying men are more privileged in society because they have a longer shelf life?
07:36:48.920
Isn't that what you're essentially saying, though?
07:36:56.360
That's what I've been told by rude people, but yes.
07:37:01.400
Well, I think women benefit far more from pretty privilege than men do in totality.
07:37:08.200
So, I mean, maybe men, like, the age range that people will broadly deem men as attractive is larger, but I would still say women reap way more benefits,
07:37:20.700
generally from pretty privilege than the reverse.
07:37:23.460
Like, you have a 23-year-old woman who gets, alleges, claims she's paid $10,000 a month, every month, from 10 different men.
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You can't just go find 10 women who'll just give you 10 grand.
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Some, but, like, women really don't move that way.
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Like, it's easy for a woman to find a sugar daddy.
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Because you guys always want to, oh, there's some sugar mamas out there.
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And I bet the ones that do, they don't spend nearly as much as these men do, and there's far fewer of them, and they probably want way more strings attached, et cetera, et cetera.
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I also think men are taken more seriously often.
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Tried to have debates or hurts with people, they've just not taken me seriously, or sometimes when I've been very enraged, I've not been taken seriously, but...
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You know, if I were, like, a big guy, and I showed the same amount of emotion, someone would be scared of me.
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We probably won't do, like, a lower-tier roast tonight, but just because it's already pretty late.
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It won't be lowered, just for the sake of time.
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I mean, men are more privileged in society than women?
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Uh, women are just as physically strong as men.
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Um, I think it's in regards to different things, but I believe strength can be measured in
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Well, I don't know if that's what you're trying to say, but physical strength can be measured
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But is it your position that women are just as physically strong as men?
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Um, like, well, for example, at my job, we move whole people and you can't just chuck
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When you move people, it's not so much about brute strength, but leverage and finesse.
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There are times, especially, um, if I've been able to, um, move someone better than one
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I really think it depends on the strength and the person, so...
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You do realize, though, these questions are kind of general statements.
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They're not meant to be interpreted as if there are...
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For example, women are just as physically strong as men.
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If we're talking about this generally, this wouldn't preclude, like, a given...
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Like, there's probably women who are stronger than me.
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There's plenty of women who are stronger than plenty of men.
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But, speaking generally, do you think it's the case that women are just as physically strong
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Once again, like, for example, I grew up in a farming community, and...
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Are the male farmers stronger than the female farmers?
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Well, my grandfather was a farmer, and he had seven children, and majority of them were
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women, or girls, at the time, and he sent them all out to do the same farm work, because
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But do you think that if he had grandsons, he would have still sent the woman out, like,
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He only had two sons, so I don't know, but probably...
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I mean, he definitely wouldn't have let his daughters lounge around the house and just
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But you're saying that he would have sent them out?
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I have three younger brothers, and I would just like to chime in here and say that...
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Three younger brothers, it doesn't matter how much I work out.
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They're all going to be able to roughhouse me and tumble me down, and we grew up on a
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I had to help bale the hay, carry the grain in the water buckets, and it didn't matter how
07:42:26.140
My brothers could carry more as far as, like, the weight in the water buckets than I could.
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They could lift more 50-pound bags of grain at a time than I could.
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Theirs was like, hey, sis, let's do three or four and see if you can do it.
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So, and generally speaking, I do believe that men are stronger than women.
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There are exceptions, but since this is a generalization looking at everyone, obviously men have the
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physical characteristics that make them stronger, which is good.
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If you want to go with that, then men naturally have more muscle mass.
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But if that's the case, why would you agree with the statement women?
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Again, I know you don't like, sometimes things are a little more nuanced.
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So, like, I don't think if you just uncharitably interpreted this question to mean that no women are ever, ever stronger than a man.
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Like, that's, I don't think that that's implied in the question.
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Like, this is clearly a sort of generalized question.
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I'm talking about the average here, but do you average, are women, on average, are women just as physically strong as men?
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Like I said before, you do meet women who are stronger than men.
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And at the end of the day, a human body is a human body if you needed to do work.
07:43:53.340
But so, hypothetical, if there was only, if it was true, and it is, that there are women who are stronger than men, but let's say there was only one woman, one woman in the world, that was stronger than one man.
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And then all the other men were stronger than all the women.
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Do you think it would be, like, incorrect to say that men are physically stronger than women?
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But I'm just curious why you're asking that and what you're implying by it.
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Well, some people actually legitimately believe that women are just as physically strong as men, which is not true generally.
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On average, men are physically stronger than women.
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So it wasn't so much a dig at women not being able to do any sort of physical labor?
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No, it's just to see if, like, there's a strain of feminism that's like, women are just as strong as men.
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If that was the case, then the boxing series would be men and women.
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I don't know if you're much into sports, but you do acknowledge, for example, that if you were to put, let's just go, I mean, go elite for elite.
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The best women athletes, whatever the sport, whatever the event, you put them up against the elite men, the women get complete, like, women would completely lose everything.
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There's one long-distance running event where women will edge out men.
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And everything else, men would completely destroy women in sports.
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Why would they win in football, but not in soccer?
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Just know it's kicking a ball, but I'm sure there's more to it than that.
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I feel like soccer doesn't use as much upper body strength.
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You might, you might say like, okay, there's core and like, does having strong upper body
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But soccer's a lower body sport, lower body coordination, all these sorts of, it's mostly
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I think a lot more women have a lot more strength in the lower body than the upper body.
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Everybody has more strength in their lower body than in their upper body absent like
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That's why leg day is always easier than arm day.
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Like, like naturally, almost anybody can squat more than they can bicep curl or that they
07:47:17.740
So I'm a bit, are you saying women have more lower body strength than men?
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You realize it's really bad faith to do this thing where you say sometime, like, I don't
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Sometimes there's some men who are more feminine than some women.
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That wouldn't disprove the general point that generally women are more feminine.
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Do you think, do you think men, the elite men would beat the elite women?
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I don't know what physical attributes you even need for golf.
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Um, I ran competitively in high school and I saw a lot of both.
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You didn't notice that the men were faster than the women?
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No, they break up high school sports by gender.
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So, sometimes people didn't want to watch a bunch of kids on the track for two miles twice.
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So, they would just run boys and girls for the two mile at the same time.
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Because you have your times when you cross the finish line.
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Whoever had the shortest time was, got the most points for track.
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So, for competitive track, at least for the high school I went to.
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For racing, though, I don't, I didn't get a clear answer.
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Do these ladies have real jobs or just OnlyFans crap?
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Sorry I needed your channel, found you through Charlie, but these conversations are shocking
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I was born in the 80s, so call me old, but I'll pray for them.
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Only Sina there has OnlyFans, so everybody else here has normal jobs, I guess you could say.
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We're going to do a couple of, we're going to do the pre-show notes now, and then we'll
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We're going to blast through these as quick as possible.
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You got robbed because your boyfriend made you wait outside his house too long.
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Okay, so it was my first relationship, and I was a little naive, and I was just very in
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We were together for like three years, and I was like head over heels over him, but he
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No, he was cheating, and at the, well, he had like, he had cheated on me, and, but we
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were still trying to like work through it, and anyway, so I like went over to his house
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to pick him up because we were going to go get food, and it was like late at night,
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I think it was like 11 p.m., and he doesn't live in like the best area, and at the time,
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I remember I was like smoking, so I had my window rolled down, and I was just waiting
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for him to come out, and I was texting him, telling him to hurry because it was dark, and
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I was scared, and then two Hispanic men approached my window, but my window was like halfway down.
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And I'm like, and I'm just like on my phone, like texting him like to hurry up because
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like it's hella dark, and I'm like scared, and then as I'm texting him, two men come
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up to my window, and they knock on my window, and then I turn over to the side, and then
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they start like complimenting me, they're like, oh, you're so beautiful, like let me
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get your number, blah, blah, and then I said no, like I have a boyfriend, like, and I kind
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of like shooed them away, and then I didn't roll up my window, I just like looked to the
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right because my boyfriend's house was on the right side, and I like started like texting
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him like hurry, like these men are, and then, because I had heard, because they walked away
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after, so I was like hurry, like these men just came up, I was like texting that, and then
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I heard like footsteps, like like running towards me, and then I like, I like look to my like
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window, and all I see is like a gun straight in my face, and then I like start spinning,
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and I'm like what the fuck is going on, and I look down, and I'm bleeding profusely, and
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I'm like oh no, this is real life, Marsha, you better like get your shit together, and
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Yes, and then I like look up, and I'm like listening to everything, and then I like couldn't
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hear, everything was slow motion, I like couldn't hear anything, and I was moving slow,
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and then all of a sudden everything went fast, and it was like bitch get the fuck out, bitch
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get the fuck out, like you're gonna get killed if you don't get out, and I was like oh my
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god, like I'm gonna get, I really thought I was gonna die, I was like this is, this is
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the end, like my boyfriend's literally gonna catch me outside, he's gonna be traumatized
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for the rest of his life, and like Marsha's gonna be dead, and I couldn't even open the
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door, I was like so like shook, I like grabbed, I thankfully I had my phone, and I popped out
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through my window, and I started running towards his house, and then I just like, I just
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had like the feeling that they were gonna shoot my back, so I was like I need to lay
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down, and I just like lay down on the grass, and then I heard my car go, and then they
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took it, and then I started, I was trying to text him, and my hands would not work, I
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literally couldn't walk, I couldn't do it, yeah I was like, I just started screaming, I
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just got screaming his name, I was like whatever his name was, not gonna say it, but I was
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like, I was screaming his name, and then he, Rupert, and then he, Rupert, and then he came
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out, and he came out, and then he was like why are you yelling, he was like why are you
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yelling, and I'm literally like bleeding, and I'm like, and I'm, I can't even talk, I'm
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a scar um yes i have a little scar right here but you can't have makeup over yeah yeah um and then
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i was like i was like i just got i couldn't talk i was like i just got i just got my cars
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my car i was like you need to get in your car we need to call the police he was like wait he's like
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are you lying and i was like no i was like my car is gone like i just got pissed away and then he
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started crying and then he was like fuck and then he disclosed he was like he was like okay don't be
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mad at me um he's like he's like i have a he's like i have like a solution like he's like we're
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gonna call the cops but he's like he's like i have to tell you something and i was like what he
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was like i have a tracker in your car i was like oh interesting but it ended up working yeah he gave
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it he gave the cops his phone and they found my car because he had a tracker in my car
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so my first ex was crazy wow i guess that kind of worked out though like it did it did because
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i wasn't expecting that wow wait and where did this take place what part of la it actually took
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place in the valley in san fernando valley which is even crazier was it was it white guys
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no it said it was hispanic hispanic okay um i don't know it's the fucking valley maybe it's the
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valley it was like hispanic why dude it was it was the scariest thing i've ever happened to me
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all over i was i had like ptsd i couldn't be in cars at night time for like a year and a half i
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literally would be like like looking everywhere and like wait wait wait oh my god wait this is
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gonna sound crazy chat are you thinking what i'm thinking boyfriends hit you up that's what
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everybody thought i said but that's he wouldn't like he he didn't set me up he literally started
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crying and then and then and he he's just like that's just not his vibe um he just made me wait
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too long why outside because he's he's because he's like fucked up yeah i thought you were about
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to say some racist shit but oh no you know the what is going on in your head yeah that girl your
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friend madam houston she said cpt color people timing i'm not talking to you i'm talking to her
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oh madam houston she said i would never say this but she said cpt color people time yeah and then
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kelsey calls it okay that was a joke yeah i know it's a joke sometimes we do be a little late so
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it's okay you were on time good for you yeah there's the two mexican sorry latino women my dad
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yeah sorry she's mexican i'm sorry there's other i'm not there's other latinas there's puerto ricans
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well that was a crazy story cubano cubano cubana cubana uh you know there's costa ricans there's
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panamanians there's peruvians there's chileans there's argentinians okay uh so okay you got
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uh robbed nice you also dating dated your best friend and you took her from her man i did
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i did she was she was in the wrong relationship though okay all right so um you you swooped you
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swiped i did i you'd uh let's see here you say men don't try anymore dating is whack nowadays yeah
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and that's why i date women look i think we got to be in our sparkle sparkle era as men you guys kind
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of our sassy man apocalypse i think no us men we got to take a step back do as little work as
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possible and kind of let the women i'm gonna get you nowhere just get let the women do everything
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that i mean that's what they do let the women do all the work just kidding but seriously but for
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reals uh oh going to kelsey kelsey you know look you you've only been with one guy you've been
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divorced no rebounds uh you said you're waiting until marriage for like you 100% waiting until
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marriage or like what if a really nice nice guy from indiana comes along and is like doesn't want
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to wait you know would you would you date him like would you do it or not you were waiting until
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marriage i'd say too bad i'm sorry you you cannot milk the cow without buying i want a ring on it
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can't milk the cow but what if you just what if like once you suckle with him sorry sorry go ahead
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what if it doesn't yeah what if you sleep with him and it's bad you don't connect like a party of
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i know that really bad like if it's well okay you have to define bad because some some people you
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don't enjoy it okay you do not enjoy the sex or what if he like would you care noises and it's
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scary like that's her husband though well men could turn around and say the same thing about
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women i was a virgin was i was i a gambling was he gambling with me being a virgin what was that a
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risk that he saw or was that an opportunity and was that a risk because that's for us to have
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intimacy and grow together and learn is that an opportunity for me to say to my husband like hey
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how can i serve you today hey is there anything that you'd like to do differently you know
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being open to that it's like i grow and learn with my partner we do that together we share that
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bond that i and also like i can sleep at night knowing that i save myself i don't have to sit
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there on first second third fourth date and be like yeah so um you're not like romeo and you're not
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like steven steven was like the like he didn't have to be compared and that that's something that i
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wanted to do for him i i didn't want him to have a comparison i love that i just wanted it to be him
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you know mind me and my mom oh is your mom like that my mom has only dated my dad my parents are
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together by the way yeah and my mom's only had sex with my dad she lost she waited till marriage
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and she's never gotten i don't know about this right but she's never gotten drunk she's never
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taken a shot she's never smoked she's very much like same yeah same mom vibes yeah yeah my mom is
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like that yeah it's fun to just have that yeah she lives a great happy life she's like the happiest
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woman like yeah i mean i encourage other women to do it just because like you don't have to worry
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also about does someone have like an sti or 100 std coming into the relationship and stuff those are my
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personal preferences no i it's like i i can i i just don't have to worry about that i love that view
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yeah i've been celibate for two years so awesome good for you so that that's that's my stance
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on it so for like a year and a half god designed sex for marriage and it's in that confines and so
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going along with christian beliefs i believe it's holy and sacred it should be treated like that
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and and people should be respected in the relationship too coming into it i don't want
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to objectify you and i don't want you to object you can objectify me i'm okay women can objectify
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way no hose objectify away women you want to use me for my body go ahead steph knows what i'm talking
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i'll be i think we should respect do you want to be my read wait wait i'm just kidding i'm kidding
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nine him okay i should i should have said anything i'm sorry oh oh wait i can yeah
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yeah uh okay we'll pull these up one sec here yeah read this one felicity
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fgm is considered a human rights violation by the center for reproductive rights there
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are no such protections for mgm chair two is there anything that is allowed for male or female corpses
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that aren't allowed for the opposite sex corpses no um we'll uh do whatever needs to be done to
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make sure someone's sanitized well preserved and presentable for their family um now certain religions
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may require certain things to be done um and usually in that case there's a practitioner
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from the religion that'll come in and do that for example um for um islamic families um they'll have
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a group of people from the mosque and if it's a woman it'll be a group of women and if it's a man
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it'll be a group of men that'll use our um prep room to walk bathe someone and get them ready for their
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service um so uh anyways we do a segment sorry i'm such a dick okay we do a segment where everybody
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takes off their makeup you guys game you game game yeah we're taking pictures after this we take
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pictures for like our like socials yeah for social we're doing content we have content
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so beautiful without the makeup we definitely are i like this makeup or without i don't even know why
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you would take pictures with makeup because you're already so beautiful no it's not about being
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beautiful it's about the whole like you have a makeup look to match the outfit to match the hair
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fashion girl expression it's not to look beautiful or where are you going cena it's oh she's gonna you
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gotta do in the bathroom wait makeup makeup will you guys take your makeup off anybody i've gotta
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take my makeup off i look the same with or without it whoa wait felicity oh you're just doing your
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why do you put it on your chest because it doesn't like it needs to blend properly
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it's not weird also you're saving me a step because when i get back to where i'm at i'm gonna take my
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makeup off what time is it uh it's uh we're gonna wrap very soon that's what time it is so
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hold it up hold up the damage hold up the damage i wear a lot of eye makeup and lipstick but
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read this aside from chair two seven i know yeah and i like never have the fake eyelashes on and i
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kind of want to like guys you guys kelsey you guys literally might make me look a little
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lively aside from chair two seven and nine y'all are ordinary boom roasted w whatever w whatever
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staff boom roasted i mean i don't know if he's like coming for me or if he likes me
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because i'm whatever staff but i'm chair eight do you want to are you into him no i'm just saying
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uh so chair nine would be you talking shit about fucking christopher bro hell yeah hold on what the
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fuck dude are you fucking kidding me right now dude are you fucking serious yeah nigga we will
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both mash you what that's my boy yo why are you talking shit about christopher dog hey let's say
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hey let's say hey vato oh my relax relax chill out homie hey don't talk to me like that dog
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oh my god hey get the fuck out of here felicity i would like to hey that's my fucking homie dog
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bro don't you brian chair nine that's yours yes not for real chair nine i think he wants to be
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more than homie vato show some fucking respect essay i'm crying hey essay show some fucking
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respect bro so butchering hey shut up felicity dog you're from santa barbara and you don't even
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don't wink at me i didn't fucking wink dog what the fuck you think something's wrong with my eye
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yeah he definitely needs a snicker boy hey essay calm down y'all calm down homes don't play me like
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that dog oh wait what the fuck am i can't you can't it's turning indian yeah i'm like the
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do a different one do your fucking your british thing or whatever you do no i kind of like
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i kind of like this one speak some french do a french accent
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a really it's okay i can't do accents either he thinks he can though what are you trying to do
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over there oh is that german that that's a very very bad i can't believe you would try to do that
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that's kind of hot that doesn't really sound german it's like vaguely eastern european
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it sounds like kind of like ukrainian you know the more eastern european
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get it right brandon get it right now that's that's german that was german
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hey but hey he's a good-looking guy why you gotta talk shit to him like that okay we're not
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talking about christopher hey that's my fucking homie though yeah okay essay just
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okay sorry i can't i'm just repeating this same joke at this point all right christopher send in a
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champagne pop because i stuck up for you i guess it's too late felicity felicity
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oh nick left he just left here to save the day chair to everybody wants to know what's with the
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gloves it's called fashion in class tick tock which oh i just wanted to kind of dress up my outfit
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actually um a co-worker's mother passed away and she's like i have all these cool vintage gloves but
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i don't wear them so you can have them but there's nothing special about my hands other than being
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weird looking but yeah i don't get manicures really oh my god who the hell i know i know you
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don't care so that wasn't me i'm just answering can i answer the prompt when you start talking about
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zip it for felicity but no i look the same regardless
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your xd donated 69 hey brian good work as always nick killing it in chat again felicity
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was also there question for chair two no disrespect but are you on the spectrum well i've never been
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formally diagnosed but i have a co-worker who's insistent i am even though i hate routines so he
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will get a good laugh out of that when i tell him about it at work later this week nice nice uh
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okay fairy that's you how do they know that i don't know it's your social media oh okay
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whatever um you said the amount of times you hung out with men and they didn't have basic needs like
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water like they didn't have water like for you for them for both of us and i was like that a
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toilet that's it yeah same and my dish sponge and i was just no literally i was like they don't
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have tap water drink water there's no tap water i mean i'm sure i'm not drinking that are you dating
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homeless men right no this is this is these are literally people like models like people who should
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have their shit together and don't and yeah i don't know from all my experiences i don't know if i
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i just drink a lot of water but women don't drink water okay i don't know what women you are around
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but women drink water i don't know about the women you are because like we need water to keep our
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good well then they're coochie well yeah but i don't know whenever i feel like uh i drink way more
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water and the girl will have like one sip i'll have i don't know if we can bring the pitcher over here
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bring it over mary the pitcher i'll drink in a couple hours i'll drink an entire pitcher of water
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a girl might not even drink anything well maybe you shouldn't be hanging out with those women look
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at this i'll drink this whole fucking thing when it's full in like two or three hours that's it's
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good you're staying hydrated yeah that's good for yourself anyways whatever um uh you want the topic
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of how men treat women today and how lazy everyone is in general when it comes to dating so how do men
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treat women honestly i think that everyone is just lazy like i think that instant gratification is huge
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in like today's generation and like the younger generations um i think everybody is so used to
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you know everything being at the tip of their fingers and it stems from like social media and the
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internet and like we're just all just instant gratification is what we're all after subconsciously
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even if you don't want to be like that and it's like pouring over into the dating area and i just
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think that everyone is lazy men and women okay yeah uh all right yeah um both men and women are lazy okay
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you also wrote that men need to stop going after the baddies if they haven't stopped stopped in
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themselves i like no miss read or mistyped that so it's gonna sound weird but you want like read it
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and then word it the right way because there's some typos but you understand what i'm trying to say you
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said men need to stop going after baddies if they haven't uh fixed themselves first
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be emotionally ready they should say can i give this baddie everything she needs
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do i even want to love someone yeah okay so uh i guess really quick what what is what does a baddie
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need and what is a baddie i would say first of all independent woman that really doesn't need a man
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but if they did have one it would be adding on never taking away so yeah um and then someone a
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woman who a woman who cares about herself and that takes care of herself um basically just someone who
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really like has their shit together but it's a woman so she's a baddie and um i would say that a
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baddie needs the male version baddie i guess like a zaddy okay and all right basically a man who
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matches that energy who is constantly like to to even be like a baddie like it's always wanting
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better for yourself and wanting to constantly like you know keep yourself to a higher standard i love
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that too yeah uh okay uh you you understand yeah i get it um oh all the way your friend asha we
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should have her on because i saw some of her shit gangster princess shapeshifter muse tell her if
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she's down we'll get we'll have her come another time because we we could definitely have some cool
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combo with her uh iris you just got out of abusive relationship with a rich man can you do you want
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to tell us how you abused him he abused me oh my god i'm so sorry my mistake um and the reason i say
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that is because he told me okay i was a model i had a competition i needed to go to didn't even make it
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to it mind you it was for my finals uh that's because once i started this relationship with him
08:14:37.320
he's the one that told me that he would support me in every endeavor that i needed to do so i would
08:14:42.100
not have to work and i would just have to uphold a traditional wife role cooking cleaning taking care
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of him nurturing him making sure that he's okay and i did that and i didn't get what i wanted from
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the situation which was just hey all you gotta do is fly me to my competition you said that you would
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fly me to my competition and as soon as the date came that didn't happen and then it was just a
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disappointment after disappointment and when i say the disappointments it's just he felt as though
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he would be able to do as he pleased and i would not be able to do as i please and once it made it to
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that point he was like okay well why don't you just work for me so essentially i ended up getting
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scammed in a situation because it's like sorry i'm going fast but i ended up giving up myself
08:15:42.520
my career what i wanted to do in order to love him and do whatever he wanted me to do and so um
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how long were you guys together it was six months and so he didn't fly you i'm just
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he didn't fly you to a competition and that's him being abusive no that was only one part of it he was
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also narcissistic diagnosed by you i'm assuming no there's actually people that can track his behavior
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was he has he been diagnosed by a mental health care professional he is bipolar and he does also
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yeah and then he's also doing like this big humiliation ritual to me because he's also a
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streamer i did crash out on his life oh my god first time i have ever really raised my voice no it's
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john john moss lol john moss oh you said that name exactly he's like he was literally falling
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off in this i'm the one that he's making content off of right now so get this girl a fucking
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contract to star in transgender goodfellas um sorry i'm sweet
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yeah that was sweet oh i thought you said that was sweet no no no it's a it's a whoa why are you
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why are you looking at my that's this girl's been perving on me all night it's fucking crazy dude
08:17:20.200
it's crazy anyways wait a minute you told me you'd be my rebound guy what are you what are you doing
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promising too many things no what is she you should be upset at her because she's trying to swoop on
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your man no it's never the woman's issue i don't know she's giving me like the side i like get away
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from me i think i'm set over here oh okay i'm sitting on the side all right um damn okay so you just
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got this abusive thing with this rich man rich man streamer i don't know how many followers does
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you have a lot of followers seven million on tiktok one million on facebook damn okay what kind of
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content does he do he's supposed to be doing comedy content he also read reddit stories so
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he's able to sensationalize anything that just comes i i'm not familiar with the gentleman but
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okay uh you wanted to talk about traditional housewives and traditional house rules you say
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it's the dis excuse me disillusion of taking on the traditional role of being a housewife what do
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you want right because i decided to go ahead and take on that role for him because we were supposed
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to be building a relationship together but as we can see how that turned out he ended up just using
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it to play me to be a domestic servitude to him i see okay all right damn rip yeah okay uh let's see
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here we have uh cena uh someone asked you to take your makeup off on the first date what
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whoa that's so weird wait can you take your contacts out too
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okay you look different no she not really she doesn't she looks so beautiful i didn't say anything
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bad i just said she looks different uh most girls wear too much makeup and easily catfish
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so he went and got makeup remover did you i did i took it off on were you simping for him
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no were you down bad i wasn't down bad but he was like yeah like all girls are catfishes because
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they wear makeup blah blah blah blah blah and i was just like okay so then he's like i'm gonna
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like go get makeup remover for you to remove your makeup that's intense for a first date
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that is so weird sina i would laugh in that is so weird sina have you ever slashed a guy's tires
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no i haven't have you ever burned a guy's clothes no have you ever murdered somebody no have you
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you think i'm a psychopath have you ever been diagnosed with anything
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depression anything else uh adhd same okay cool uh all right you said that you don't think women
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should ever get down on one knee no no what about that's a man's job for never mind um
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it's the man's job to propose literally man's job if you can't you should marry him
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okay i don't think look even if i wanted to marry a woman i would never get down on a man
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huh do you want to marry a man good ones um that was good you're you're you're getting better
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you're improving she's very clever uh i would i would just stay standing and i would do something
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like hold on let me find it if a guy did that to me i'd say no yeah same that's like for example
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here i do something like this don't get your hopes up felicity
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you know what that was actually the nice version the who anybody here can catch ready
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cena ready watch them just actually i'm kind of scared i don't know
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i can catch man it's okay but i'd probably just here i'll i'd throw it we're married now
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really kind of you you're my fiancee i wouldn't even ask you're my fiancee boom here you go um so
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okay i think you'd be a little more romantic than that brian well i just don't want to get
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married is the thing so it's never going to work between us kelsey sorry that's okay it's okay
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uh excuse you felicity i just want to see what it would look like yeah it's very expensive
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uh let's see you're not gonna say what what uh dating as an influencer is hard says cena
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i think it's only fair to date same level or higher since you're already at a certain level
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you shouldn't date anyone who's lower than you makes less date like a nobody who do you date
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cena have you been on any dates recently you've been single for a year no i haven't no you're just
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all alone there because influencer is so hard like you have to take in they're literally if you're
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dating a male influencer they're surrounded by girls you're dating a female influencer they're
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surrounded by guys like so if you what would be the male influencer that's on your level
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that you because you said you know whatever i don't know because you have a couple hundred
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thousand followers or something on tiktok i think you know you you don't just find like a normal guy
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yeah i feel like it might be easier to date a normal guy social media presence okay uh
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you said love at first sight isn't real it's just lust men lust for women if they can't or don't know
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how to look i'm not even gonna finish that sentence uh you said girls will date ugly guys or any guys
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because personality but less attractive girls have a hard time dating because guys only want to date
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pretty girls you don't think so like guys only want to date pretty girls like i'm not saying they
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wouldn't have a hookup they wouldn't have a one yeah you literally said this earlier you said men
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will literally hook up with ugly girls and not date them and only date like they're really really like
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what they want yeah but girls won't do anything with an ugly guy generally that's not true that is
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not true i think those glasses are a little too small are they or my head is just massive maybe i
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just have a big head yeah i don't know um all right uh that's cool uh i mean i disagree but i won't
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even argue it it's too late to argue yeah what's that i dated ugly i only date john moss okay jonathan
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the mark the mark the mark the full government uh okay kelsey kelsey you write uh your husband
08:24:13.100
left you to find his freedom quotes uh inspired by the lifestyles he saw from his friends and
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influencers on social media he specifically said they're living my life for me i choose to stand by
08:24:24.240
my vows hoping he would come to his senses and realize the grass isn't greener instead he called
08:24:29.360
me a week before thanksgiving and he was promising you a trip and he was in florida with a married 22
08:24:36.520
year old woman and he said he was never really married to you and was never ever ever coming back
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wait so do you guys have uh shared custody no i have sole custody does he pay you child support
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yes he does does he pay you alimony no there's no alimony in the state of indiana really yep that went
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away over a decade ago really yep oh w indiana i guess should you're gonna get married get married
08:25:02.540
alimony is when you can pay reparations back to the spouse yeah reparations uh if you've been married
08:25:09.600
for 10 years or longer then you can get like a percentage of the 401k and such yeah um also like
08:25:16.820
it depends on how many assets that you have like within the marriage to divide or whatnot but there's
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no alimony in indiana oh what are you talking about raising your daughter who's in who's in the
08:25:30.100
chat okay do you want them to know that do you want me to say it for you it's okay don't worry about
08:25:39.040
it um damn that's fucked up uh so how much does he pay you in child support that's something i don't
08:25:47.560
think that i should be saying online is it enough to fully support me no i mean realistically was he
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wealthy or they take no what they do is they take a they look at the amount that you make and then
08:25:59.740
they do it based off of percentage so right it's just a it's off of income yeah yes yes uh you said
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before your ex-husband you had never dated anyone he was your first in everything including first kiss
08:26:11.060
at a drive-in movie theater oh my gosh literally remind me of my mom that is so cute okay this is
08:26:17.240
really cute so we were in a movie theater and we were sitting there with my family we were going out
08:26:21.800
and we watched guardians of the galaxy and he leans over to my parents and he asked them can i hold
08:26:26.660
your daughter's hand that was adorable that was so cute my parents are just like what he's like can i
08:26:33.920
hold your daughter's hand and my dad's like i don't care and so he did that yeah i feel like
08:26:40.060
men are more respectful where you're from well minus the whole leaving yeah but like they're very
08:26:49.740
they are so like shiblerous it's the midwest yeah exactly you said you were a virgin when you guys
08:26:58.260
married you haven't been with anyone else since the yeah we've already divorced separation you said you
08:27:03.720
had some thoughts on high body count you wanted to share yeah so um i i don't think that the high
08:27:09.700
body count and we already discussed this and you you had left brian but it's just i don't believe that
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i need to have a high body count or other people need to have a high body count to to find satisfaction
08:27:19.360
in the relationship one of the things about about growing in the relationship and one of the things
08:27:24.680
about saving the virginity is that you get to grow and experience in that relationship together
08:27:30.300
having a high body count can cause more harm and it can actually lead to a lot of mistrust
08:27:36.600
as you're going through the dating process as well so it's one of those things where i don't really
08:27:41.420
see the value like i hear people say oh well you need to go out and you need to have fun and and why
08:27:46.300
why don't you have a higher body count you definitely can get that it's like just because i can do something
08:27:51.100
it doesn't mean i should just be like paul says everything uh you i have the right to do everything
08:27:56.400
but not everything is beneficial so when exactly yeah when people make the argument that you should
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be doing this it's like no i shouldn't so i don't i don't really see people come up to me and say
08:28:10.060
it was because of my high body count that i have a better relationship with my spouse it was because i
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engaged in hookup culture that i am more trustworthy of my spouse and my spouse feels the same way about me
08:28:20.400
good times good times all right we're finishing off with your notes you're the last man standing
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last person then we're out uh a couple things more you said you're catholic yes but you're pro-choice
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yes are you are you pro-choice no okay uh you realize i understand catholicism isn't a monolith
08:28:46.020
well hold on but i mean the pope is the leader of the catholic church the catholic doc the catholic
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doctrine and the pope is anti or is against abortion yes so how do you reconcile being a catholic
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with uh being in favor of abortion well i grew up in the catholic church i know a lot of catholics also
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i don't know if you know a lot about bloomington um is very liberal town in indiana it's um it's
08:29:18.240
probably one of the few besides indianapolis california is very liberal but there's catholics in
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california that are pro-life but i knowing all the catholic people i know um you know everyone's got
08:29:31.120
something they disagree with the church doctrine with or something the church doesn't approve of
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i mean my dad's divorced and yeah they can't really divorce under but there's a lot of people
08:29:44.000
in the church who are divorced um well it can be granted under some some circumstances right
08:29:49.280
yes but they weren't even married in the church to begin with so okay and then you know that when
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pope um francis was alive uh there were a lot of catholics who disagreed with what things he would
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say so i i really like pope francis but is he pro-choice or pro-life he was pro-life okay but
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there were other things people didn't like about him especially more traditional vatican one type
08:30:15.920
catholics didn't like about him okay so are you pro-abortion for like certain instances or like just
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open across the board because some people take different stances on that it really once again
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depends on the situation but especially in cases where it's a minor in cases of incest for sure
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um you know we had that case in indiana there ohio's got more restrictive laws than indiana
08:30:41.400
and a 10 year old girl came to indiana to get an abortion and um todd rakita one of our represent
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or no he's the attorney general yeah attorney general was pitched a fit about it and it just seemed
08:30:53.740
really silly considering she was 10 and if it didn't cause her yeah she was done that's disgusting
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uh okay um still still a little bit confusing to me i'd be the thing about a whole group of people
08:31:08.100
it makes up a religion not everyone agrees 100 with everything i mean isn't that isn't it pretty
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central to the christian faith catholic faith that um that's uh like the sanctity of life
08:31:22.840
i've met catholics who were very much for the death penalty um i've met catholics who are very
08:31:29.300
anti-immigrant that's part of the sanctity of life i'm not i mean look i'm not a theological guy i'm not
08:31:36.960
a theological scholar but uh i i don't know if having a position against illegal immigration would
08:31:44.520
put you put you in contravention of catholicism there are people within the clergy who've been arrested
08:31:52.520
for at protests for protesting against deporting people
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uh okay but yeah are you saying that if you don't believe in open borders you're not a catholic
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like you think it's just you have to believe in open borders to be a catholic no i'm just saying
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there's not everyone agrees with everything and you can still be part of it what kind of motivated me
08:32:21.740
i could always i kind of turned away from catholicism for a while and then i came back
08:32:27.280
but there were a couple things that yeah i just couldn't necessarily align with a hundred percent
08:32:32.800
but then i got kind of mad because there were people notable people in the church who were saying
08:32:40.080
really hurtful divisive things and they could get away with saying they were catholic and i thought
08:32:45.520
well if they can so can i uh okay i mean i i don't know it seems like it's kind of central to
08:32:55.560
the christian faith catholic faith uh i've heard i don't know what the exact uh i couldn't cite to a
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specific thing not really my wheelhouse but i don't know how you reconcile christianity with
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a pro-abortion position you're also just focusing on one issue there's much more to catholic doctrine
08:33:17.480
that other people don't agree on i mean have you ever heard of the term cafeteria catholics
08:33:22.380
oh have you ever heard of the term catheter cafeteria catholics no very common term that
08:33:29.140
catholics like to use where we kind of just pick and choose what we want to follow a lot of people do
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in it and like i said before you meet a lot of catholics who've been divorced a lot of one that
08:33:39.240
have had some family issues that could be considered sinful but they're still part of the church you've
08:33:44.520
got people who are very much pro-execution well i don't i actually don't think it's a hypocritical
08:33:51.040
position to be pro-death penalty that's what i was taught differently growing up well i look i don't
08:33:58.420
know what the catholic prescription is on the death penalty but i i don't think it's hypocritical to
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for example if somebody is pro uh pro-life to be pro-death penalty i wouldn't think that that's
08:34:11.760
hypocritical just saying that's what church doctrine says is respect all life from
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but i don't know the catholic i don't know the catholic doctrine maybe like catholics are
08:34:24.220
biblically scripture whatever it is uh like it's you shouldn't be believe in the death penalty
08:34:31.800
i don't know maybe anybody in the chat a catholic like is death penalty uh contravention of catholic
08:34:38.480
faith chat any catholics like can you be a catholic and somebody says jackie death penalty is fine by the
08:34:47.640
bible what is she talking about i think she's talking about still the scriptura so she's talking
08:34:53.440
about scripture alone when she's saying the bible only that that's what i was taught growing up
08:34:57.720
it says trevor says killing is not murder uh let's see eye for an eye yes you can it's in the bible
08:35:08.320
no it's illegal okay the crusades it's against catholic teaching
08:35:13.980
yeah so i don't know it's not my wheelhouse really so i don't i don't know um but just even
08:35:22.160
from a secular perspective i don't i think that you could be pro-death penalty but also pro-life
08:35:30.100
like i don't think i don't think well sure but i don't think these two are necessarily contradictory
08:35:37.080
just saying if you go to any church or place of worship you will meet a whole group of people
08:35:45.560
who have differing opinions on things thou shalt not murder that whole thing you know thou shalt not
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okay anyways i'm just reading the chat here saying that's okay thou shalt not kill
08:36:13.360
includes yourself or anyone else okay uh let's see here uh did you is it just based on other
08:36:23.040
things that you've seen different instances where abortions have happened or was there something like
08:36:30.020
personal in your life you can give a quick answer but i have to move on after this um it's just
08:36:34.420
experiences from other people i've never had an abortion um though some people would say i'm evil
08:36:39.120
because i'm on birth control to manage my endometriosis so okay my parents were encouraged
08:36:44.400
to abort me so i didn't know if you had a personal story or not uh emily you wrote your
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first date you ever went on you got a strange feeling from the guy you went on a date with
08:36:52.940
you didn't have a second one turned out your gut feeling was right he ended up being very mentally
08:36:57.580
ill and homeless later on yeah it seems like a lot of women here seem to be dating homeless men i don't
08:37:02.800
well i think it was due to his it's sad but yeah he really i was 18 he was 25 and we had a class
08:37:09.640
together at iu and he asked me out i was shocked um i was like sure um and then it's okay don't
08:37:16.280
worry about the story um i don't know whatever don't take offense but oh it's okay you got time
08:37:20.340
sometimes i just have to parse when is something is important or not um you dumped your first
08:37:26.020
boyfriend over ice cream quick story uh yes well i had wanted to break up with him i felt he was kind
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of rushing things a little quick and there are a few other issues so i um wanted to break up with
08:37:36.980
him in person um i felt that was the right thing to do but i really wanted to soften the blow so i
08:37:43.040
and i was 19 at the time so um yeah okay so you went to an ice cream place and then you dumped him
08:37:48.600
there yes i thought if he had something that was making him if he you know when i'm sad i eat ice
08:37:54.340
cream i see in retrospect i probably ruined that place for him but at the time i thought it was a good
08:37:59.540
idea so i paid for the ice cream too so felicity felicity return felonicity um let's see oh okay
08:38:08.680
uh because i thought you dumped him over ice no no well i mean we're sitting over it but like he
08:38:15.060
bought you rocky road and you're like fuck you no no that's it's too petty no okay no uh you you're
08:38:22.000
engaged it's an age gap relationship yeah 16 years so yes you are uh 32 he is 48 yes i think he just
08:38:30.520
turned 48 beginning of the month so and you guys have been together how long since 2017 so i think
08:38:36.080
it's eight years now so you were 24 and he was 39 okay um you said you have a unique gray area
08:38:46.200
viewpoint on age gap relationships what is the gray area of view context um so because my parents i was
08:38:53.000
a little hesitant to tell them about it because i knew they'd be worried about me but they quickly
08:38:57.240
liked my fiancee and i think what helped it go down them adjust to it is that he met me at my job we
08:39:07.400
worked together i was 24 which i feel like was pretty solid age being an adult um and i pursued him
08:39:15.560
um and it wasn't like he was my coach in high school he was my teacher in high school he was a
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family friend that knew me since i was like six he was wait wait wait wait wait wait he he didn't
08:39:31.000
no he didn't he didn't no i met him when i wasn't so no he they would have not liked him had it been
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one of those scenarios but because we were both adults we met at a job and i kind of was the one who
08:39:42.940
initiated things he um they they were fine with it and i think that's a case the age gap's totally
08:39:49.880
appropriate in in that very specific case you're saying it's fine but you're saying other age gap
08:39:55.020
relationships not okay once again context so if you know it was my high school gym teacher who knew
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me since i was 12 now we're getting into like kind of grooming the person knew them when they were
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a child that's a different territory here that's what i meant let's assume both people meet when
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they were both adults but the age gap could be say it could even be less than yours let's say because
08:40:22.640
you you said 16 year age gap how about a 20 year old woman dating a 30 year old man that's okay fine
08:40:28.800
with that yeah 35 year old man yeah 18 year old dating 28 year old yeah oh okay yeah i think the only
08:40:36.980
time it doesn't seem like you have a really major problem with age gaps like when we're talking
08:40:40.800
like unless you're talking it gets into the criminal element then of course that's wrong
08:40:45.100
but if they're both adults it sounds like you don't really have any issues yeah the only time i'm not
08:40:50.840
against it is just um you know if they're like 40 to 60 years apart i don't disapprove but they may
08:40:58.260
have some challenges because we've had some challenges ourselves with our 16 years so i think that's fair
08:41:03.800
i think that's fair okay so if i dated uh i'm 36 if i dated a 20 year old you'd be fine with it
08:41:09.760
yeah okay all right just just curious uh okay disagree you say uh we already talked about the
08:41:18.080
negative views on feminism although i don't think you actually were able to cite really one of the
08:41:23.500
negative views but that's whatever um you say feminism helps men
08:41:29.140
i don't really think it does but um we already we dived into that a whole bunch it's getting late
08:41:39.200
so i understand it uh well there's just a few more notes but um you said you noticed that facts not
08:41:44.720
feelings gets brought up frequently on the podcast but you beg to excuse me beg to differ on the real
08:41:51.040
world there are many instances where feelings will trump facts and you can attest to this through the
08:41:56.480
work you do yes so how so what specifically well we get cases that are severe decomposition cases it
08:42:04.400
might be someone's loved one who died unexpectedly and no one checked on them for a month um and then
08:42:10.640
we get them in our care and if the their family didn't find them themselves like if a coroner or neighbor
08:42:17.680
was the one who notified them um we do occasionally get a family who wants to see their loved one again
08:42:23.620
and i have to tell them you can't but that doesn't this usually isn't a good enough answer they want
08:42:29.960
to know why and if i wanted to be blunt and be honest i can say well your loved one's green they're
08:42:35.260
bloated they're covered in maggots their skin's peeling off but if i tell a family that in that way
08:42:41.100
especially that blunt it's not gonna go over well it really isn't so you have to say it in a way
08:42:48.600
that is not going to hurt their feelings and i could be honest with them you know i'm very matter
08:42:55.040
of fact about death in my personal life and that's how my family is but um i know this job's taught me
08:43:02.080
that a lot of people aren't that way and i've had to really learn that and learn where other people are
08:43:07.060
coming from being a little adverse to death and not wanting to talk about the uh pun intended bare
08:43:13.880
bones of it but um how would this apply like how would you relate this to the approach that i take
08:43:24.660
on this podcast i don't i just know a lot of people just shut anything they don't like down with well
08:43:30.420
you're feeling that so it doesn't count but there's just a lot of instances out in the real world you're
08:43:35.060
gonna have to use some discretion well i'll know if these two things are the same but i mean i i'm not
08:43:41.200
i'm still not entirely sure what you're talking about but i mean in the real world appeals to
08:43:48.300
emotions are it's an although it's a fallacy it's logically can be logically fallacious it's actually
08:43:55.900
rhetorically super effective but if we're just looking at pure logic if we're looking at uh determining
08:44:04.280
truth then feelings ought to be kind of irrelevant if we're trying to parse truth
08:44:10.920
yeah it just but you're you're talking about in your situation the example you gave
08:44:19.100
of probably talking to somebody at one at one of the worst or the worst moments of their life
08:44:27.980
in your job as funeral director or whatever yeah you should probably have some
08:44:35.440
approach things in a tactful way but if i'm engaged in a debate in a conversation
08:44:41.860
yeah facts over feelings but i i feel like you're trying to say well feelings matter now
08:44:50.100
well for example i think sometimes if i'm having a discussion with my girlfriend or whatever if i'm
08:44:57.060
having a discussion with it whether it's anybody you're having a discussion with your boyfriend
08:45:01.560
girlfriend girlfriend i do think that there is a a way that you should try to convey something
08:45:08.300
and not just be like cold brutal person but i i guess i don't know just the climate right now feels
08:45:16.900
like everything needs to be logical you can't use any emotion or you're it's invalid well okay how
08:45:23.920
about for immigration should we be using facts or should we be using feelings should we use fifis
08:45:28.920
because like all it's very emotionally and feeling feelings compelling when you have like women who
08:45:39.640
are crying about their husband being deported or you have families like this is all very emotionally
08:45:44.900
appeals to emotion very rhetorically effective but if we're like looking at the facts of okay well
08:45:51.360
what's the negative impacts of illegal immigration on society on culture on the society economically
08:45:57.240
financially uh what about the crime rates what about the rent what everything all these things
08:46:02.500
then i think these are more compelling arguments than people's feelings feel like it hurts their
08:46:08.420
feelings i just feel like whenever you're dealing with people as whenever you're dealing with
08:46:13.640
humans there's always going to be a feelings element there unless you can't parse it out completely
08:46:18.360
unless you're talking to chat gpt or something uh i yeah but if i'm just having like a factual
08:46:24.820
conversation about some i don't know an issue i mean i feel like feelings motivates the things that's
08:46:33.580
why i asked you earlier about granted it probably came off but if if we allowed feelings to purely dictate
08:46:40.420
political policy economic policy then it feels really good to just you can make the it's really nice to let
08:46:53.080
and just anybody wants to come you just come in i feel like there's that feels nice but the practical
08:47:03.200
implications of it and the cascading and domino effect of what that that's going to have on society
08:47:08.800
not good and those feelings will be very short-lived when you basically double the popular for example
08:47:16.980
how many people in the world would like to come to the united states no idea i'd say it's over a billion
08:47:25.240
people how many people currently live in the united states i think it's 300 million what's our housing stock
08:47:30.600
don't know do you think we have the housing stock available to house a billion extra people
08:47:36.120
probably not so it feels really good to just let these people in right it feels great we're doing
08:47:43.240
the right thing they're escaping a uh you know a country that's their economy is not as good or there's
08:47:49.940
corruption or whatever it is or they're just economic immigrants but but that feels good right but what
08:47:58.560
about the feelings of the people that already live in the country how about that well i mean if you
08:48:05.980
move here legally or not you technically live here i do it work or interact with a lot of okay they are
08:48:12.360
people at the end of the day yeah they are people but like if we if we were to adhere to your belief
08:48:19.600
system on this then we would just literally open up the floodgates to having a billion people
08:48:25.080
living in the united states i don't need to i i hope i don't have to tell you what that would do
08:48:29.580
to rent prices cost of living uh crime all sorts of things once again nuance what do you think about
08:48:37.400
this are you for illegal immigration i don't want to speak on this tilt your mic down just a little bit
08:48:42.860
well as a woman speak on this as a woman who had very strong opinions of all these evil men
08:48:49.100
you remember all these evil men who are harassing women and and all it's a majority of men who want
08:48:57.640
to rape women right don't you think it's by the way the majority of illegal immigrants are men by the
08:49:02.940
way um men are much more likely to immigrate don't you think maybe if your position is so like let's
08:49:09.920
protect women shouldn't you also be against immigration no but you're letting all these creepy weird
08:49:18.460
men into the country why are they creepy and weird just because they're not american wait hold on just
08:49:23.320
to be clear it's okay for you to say men are creepy and weird just because they're men so wouldn't that
08:49:29.060
apply not to the not to the immigrants because they're immigrants it would apply to them because
08:49:33.560
they're men from your perspective again i'm not gonna go into like race because i think that race and
08:49:40.940
gender are very different and it's just a different spectrum like i just think that yes it's
08:49:48.400
letting more men into the u.s which sucks but i don't think just because they're an immigrant that
08:49:56.640
they're gonna like necessarily be detrimental just because they're an immigrant wait hold on but
08:50:02.060
you're you're you're against letting men you're against men that's a different topic i'm upset that
08:50:07.160
there are men coming in not because they're an immigrant but i mean they're kind of intertwined
08:50:14.000
they're they're men coming in to the country i'm more upset that it's a man coming in here not that
08:50:18.840
it's an immigrant okay well i mean they by definition would be an immigrant so but i'm not upset because
08:50:25.900
they're an immigrant uh okay i just on one hand you're like wow all these men are crazy rapists
08:50:34.620
like that's your position majority of men are predators creepy weirdo rapists but
08:50:42.760
come into this country and i don't have an issue with that i don't get that i'm not gonna be like
08:50:53.760
oh these immigrants are rapists because they're immigrants because they're men
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but but hold on but you're letting them but but the majority of immigrants are men
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so i don't think that's true if your goal was to stop women getting from getting raped
08:51:14.780
wouldn't you want to prevent immigration i don't think that it's a majority of men
08:51:21.600
if you want to fact check me no that immigrants are a majority of men i don't think that's the
08:51:26.840
majority of immigrants are men men are much more willing to take the dangerous journey to
08:51:31.520
get here a lot of immigrants are already here and have been here for years and they still are
08:51:35.940
getting deported it's not just men it's literally whole families like me personally i've literally
08:51:41.860
like witnessed it it's definitely a lot of women too and again i don't necessarily think it has
08:51:50.640
anything to do with the fact that it's an immigrant coming in i don't think that's the issue i think the
08:51:55.060
issue is that it's a man it's a man coming in who happens to be an immigrant yeah that sucks but i'm
08:52:01.480
not gonna say oh you're an immigrant like you can't come here so but i'm i guess my confusion is on one
08:52:07.280
hand all these men are so bad and like there's probably some argument that can be made that um
08:52:15.260
i there's probably some argument that could be made that somebody who's inclined like i don't know
08:52:23.000
the statistics on this actually so i shouldn't i don't know the statistics i won't even i won't
08:52:27.520
speak on it just because i don't know um but it it is interesting to me that on one hand
08:52:34.700
men bad men weird men creepy men predators but open like open borders doesn't really make sense
08:52:43.520
men are overwhelmingly uh men make up the majority of i believe both legal and illegal immigrants so
08:52:52.840
as it relates to feels over facts though i think on this particular topic uh yeah seeing uh you know
08:53:02.160
family torn apart that's that that's feels but uh let's talk about the facts about the impacts of
08:53:10.460
illegal immigration on this country i think it's a combination of both and nuance okay but would
08:53:17.240
you acknowledge even on the feels front uh there's a lot of like this what about the feels the feelings
08:53:25.040
of the citizens of this country who don't want illegal immigration like we ignore facts there's a lot
08:53:33.500
of feelings that we feel about illegal immigration well speaking to people where i'm from that feel
08:53:41.940
negatively about it they feel yeah um you know they it's part of the feelings i feel like are
08:53:48.800
i don't probably you're upset i said feel um but uh sometimes they feel like someone is getting more
08:53:57.580
than them who shouldn't and usually to that i say well you need to look at the source rather than
08:54:04.040
basically look at the person rigging the race rather than your competitors
08:54:14.100
rent prices well where i come from rent skyrocketed because of all the out-of-state college students
08:54:23.180
rather than immigrants well look to be clear there's it's a multi-varied issue the increases
08:54:29.820
in cost of living and rent i would never solely place the blame on these things simply or just on
08:54:37.180
immigration obviously there's other factors greedy corporations greedy landlords uh just generally
08:54:43.240
inflation there's a bunch of different reasons right however like how many uh immigrants how many
08:54:50.000
illegal immigrants are in this country they're not homeless they're living somewhere so if there's
08:55:01.100
i don't know how many uh what is it 10 there's tens of millions of illegal immigrants here i don't know
08:55:10.160
what the exact number is they're not homeless they're living they're renting they're living in houses
08:55:18.140
in apartments they might be renting but what's the place look like because some of the illegal
08:55:24.080
immigrants in my community they might be renting but they're not living high on the hog so and
08:55:29.740
they're still paying for taxes okay there's there's like slumlords and stuff but there's still like
08:55:39.380
there's still definitely housing stock that citizens would absolutely live in that are being occupied or
08:55:47.240
taken by immigrants there's also a lot of houses that are sitting empty because there's
08:55:53.400
real estate companies that are buying them for airbnbs or future investments and no one's living
08:55:59.820
that's i don't like that either but that doesn't that that does nothing to tackle my argument that there
08:56:08.560
are there's millions upon millions of immigrants in this country who are taking up the housing stock
08:56:14.000
so you can say well you can point to this other thing over here red herring well hold on what about
08:56:20.020
uh black rock that just has all these houses sitting on the market and nobody's occupying them okay
08:56:26.360
that's bad too i guess but that's not a defeater to my point i think it's a bigger problem than your
08:56:31.760
point i actually i don't hold on i i don't know the exact numbers but i'm fairly confident that there's
08:56:38.280
more more more illegal immigrants occupying houses than does black rock own houses i don't know about
08:56:43.960
black rock but i can tell you at least in bloomington indiana it's no one i'll google it uh corporations
08:56:50.760
how many houses do corporations own mind you uh not okay corporations own approximately 600 000
08:57:04.280
single family homes in the united states and i'm assuming that like some of them sit empty
08:57:11.880
but most of that most of these corporations are renting them out even if if it's for
08:57:16.760
fucking bullshit inflated prices it's not a defeater to my point okay well if you want to be a chat gpt
08:57:26.280
robot go ahead i'm gonna feel i googled one thing no i'm not you're just very focused on logic for
08:57:33.160
everything yes there's just we should be focused on logic there's just things in life you can't be
08:57:37.640
that can i ask you a question can i move to japan and say fuck the japanese and their fucking legal
08:57:43.000
system i don't give a fuck i'm gonna live here and i'm japanese now fuck them can i do that probably not
08:57:50.440
would they deport me probably would it be wrong for the japanese to deport me if i overstay my visa
08:57:56.840
well that's a bit of a gray area how so well if you've lived in japan for like 40 years and you've
08:58:03.640
integrated yourself in the community you know you're kind of part of the community at that point okay so
08:58:10.520
let's say the japanese put that aside but let's say i've been there for 18 months
08:58:15.480
well that's a little different a lot less time okay you acknowledge that there are legal immigrants
08:58:21.560
in this country who have just got here who have been here for three months six months nine months ten
08:58:26.440
months yes should they be deported then the whole point of america is to be a melting pot and to have
08:58:32.760
a bunch of culture and and literally the leaders here don't want culture and don't want people with
08:58:38.360
culture i think hold on position i i think i think nations can say you know what we allowed for this
08:58:45.640
amount of legal immigration in the past especially if they're sorry we allowed for this amount of
08:58:51.560
legal immigration in the past we accepted it however our circumstances have changed the economy has
08:58:58.600
changed the cost of living has changed the housing stock has changed all kinds of factors have changed we
08:59:05.560
no longer want to allow this will allow this amount of legal immigration and we don't want any illegal
08:59:12.520
immigration nothing wrong for a country to do that whatsoever just because there was some difference
08:59:18.600
in the past doesn't mean we need to continue it just like slavery used to be legal in the past
08:59:24.680
definitely doesn't mean we should continue slavery because it was done and practiced in the past i don't
08:59:29.800
think those things are related i think it's perfectly a coherent point i still really haven't gotten
08:59:35.320
an answer from you though so if i go ahead and say you know what you're right if you've been here 40
08:59:39.960
years maybe we shouldn't deport you are you prepared to say that if you've been here for three months
08:59:46.040
that we can deport you and should deport you well you haven't really set up a lot here so so you're
08:59:51.800
fine with you're fine then with the deportation if they've been here for less than a year say yes oh okay
08:59:58.200
common ground then yes where did this even come from she was just talking about like i thought it
09:00:05.000
was her feelings yeah you brought up immigration and she's kind of just what's the color is there
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a cutoff like how long do you have to be here before it's like wrong to deport somebody no it
09:00:15.400
depends on the situation oh my god you asked the wrong person that they've been here for three years
09:00:22.280
i think if they're paying taxes they're working they're not doing anything like into the mic if
09:00:27.400
you can i think if they're paying taxes if they're working if they're not okay well so if i can i move
09:00:34.520
to japan and i i don't know the i don't know how their laws work who was from who has been to costa
09:00:41.240
rica was it you i forgot who's the costa rica person it was me but i just haven't been there yet oh
09:00:47.240
you haven't been there okay um i mean can i just can i move to mexico my yes you you can move to
09:00:53.800
costa rica and you can move to mexico but can i illegally immigrate to mexico and then protest actually
09:00:59.720
it's funny can i protest the mexican government and be like pissed off at them and riot and burn down
09:01:05.800
buildings because they want to deport me you could do that but you actually know you wouldn't end up
09:01:12.280
being alive yeah oh interesting we're not unaliving uh illegal immigrants in this country
09:01:18.920
because they're protesting or whatever or because they're here illegally there's actually i believe
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didn't they pass a law chat in mexico if you're not a citizen of mexico and you uh you protest in mexico
09:01:32.360
that's a crime that's a crime i believe maybe somebody in the chat can help me out with that chat can
09:01:40.280
anybody tell me really quick really quick if you can what's the law precisely um mexico is having
09:01:47.240
protests about american immigrants right now so the mexicans don't want american immigrants uh because
09:01:54.680
some look some americans do move to uh mexico uh article 33 of the constitution wait uh can you pull that back
09:02:04.760
up under cons article 33 of the mexican constitution it is strictly illegal for foreigners to participate
09:02:13.400
in political activities in mexico which can include demonstrations participation in such activities can
09:02:20.120
lead to consequences like detention or deportation can you imagine if i went to mexico and i was waving
09:02:25.880
around an american flag and was like fuck the mexican government bro we're cooked in america it's it's
09:02:35.560
cooked here boys um okay whatever off of immigration though i can't linger on that a few more notes for you
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oh this is like the last one or two things uh you're very much a feminist you'd love to discuss
09:02:50.600
why you believe feminism is beneficial to society i think we did already yeah i think we already did
09:02:56.680
uh just why is feminism beneficial to society really quick i think it allows people to live the life they
09:03:05.400
want and not have to be in the constraints of one way um i know people when they talk about patriarchy
09:03:14.120
even though i don't think it's entirely accurate um like to glamorize the 1950s um but not everyone
09:03:21.240
wants to live that way okay you also final thing you enjoy your career very much working life uh you
09:03:29.000
would like to speak your piece on why you don't think trad wife is a good fit for you yes but you're
09:03:33.640
fine with other people doing it yeah okay whatever i believe you yeah yeah yeah i don't know once again
09:03:39.320
i think the climate right now is to tell people to live one way and it's just not everyone's a good
09:03:45.080
fit for that i really don't think i'd make a good stay-at-home mom um some people do and they love it
09:03:50.200
and that's good for them but saying every woman needs to be a baby factory and stay at home isn't
09:03:55.960
right do you think if would that be the best way though generally for most people to operate
09:04:03.480
you know what i'm gonna say it depends yeah yeah well do you think it like i know you don't want
09:04:12.920
to have kids but for women who do want to have kids do you think it's better for them to be boss
09:04:18.040
babes and then pass off the children to daycare nanny um child care whatever it is or do you think it'd be
09:04:27.880
better if the man could just go out make the money and they could dedicate their time to raising their
09:04:33.080
children and not giving it to some third party who knows what the they're doing with the kids
09:04:38.520
look probably most people in child care are fine they're not going to like abuse the kid but sometimes
09:04:43.960
they get abused um and then also i think the the app not not reaching up to the threshold of abuse
09:04:52.600
but i think the actual care given the mother is always going to give better care than some
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fucking minimum wage 20 an hour worker working for some child child care they're they're going to be
09:05:04.920
less attentive they're dealing with other kids it's not their kid they're less invested mothers the
09:05:10.360
actual mothers will always tip unless the mother's a piece of shit whatever most almost all mothers are
09:05:15.480
going to be better suited to raise their children than some outsider you agree with that no
09:05:21.320
uh what do you disagree with you think i think there are does it depend it does depend okay so but i
09:05:31.800
already it also i think depends on your child and their needs but hold on okay there are some mothers
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who are abusive there are some child care workers who are fantastic and will probably meet might treat
09:05:43.480
them better than the mom but on a balance of probabilities uh and but also there would also
09:05:52.280
be abusive child care workers so it doesn't whatever um the loving mother is going to treat their child
09:05:59.240
better than the loving child care worker because it's actually their child so knowing this wouldn't be
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better to for the sake of the children wouldn't it be better to have moms raising their kids not
09:06:16.120
i think it'd be better to have daycare workers parents raising their kids well assuming somebody
09:06:21.960
has to work and the traditional dynamic for most of human history has been it's not to say that the
09:06:28.440
husband should be an absentee father but he should go work the woman stays home takes care of the kid
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like that was a very small blip in time i think a lot of unless you were really wealthy a lot of women
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went out and did something that i may have taken their kid out to the field with them or something
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but well i mean in historically i look i'm not an expert in this but it it just occurs to me well what do
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you do with the child like what who's the child with during when the man's working well mom would
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probably like peasants medieval peasants mom would probably be working too and then the kids would be
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doing whatever they could physically do at the time okay well i think that small blip of human history
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was probably the superior way to structure society okay that's your opinion but i'm not gonna even
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granting even granting that it is a small blip in human history where the man went to work woman
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stayed home took care of the kids uh do you think that that's better than both parents working and
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then they shuck the kids off to child care you think it's better for the kid i think if one of the
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parents stays home it doesn't have to be the mom yes that's why i'm for more maternal and paternal leave
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after birth wait so it's better for a parent to be with a kid versus child care yes okay so i mean
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sure yeah a guy could stay at home yeah sure i think most women aren't would not be okay with that
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kind of arrangement but maybe there there are some women out there who would be but
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if the majority of women's will would be no we're i'll stay home yeah i realistically when i say i i
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mean them it's i and especially since most people live paycheck to paycheck in the united states both
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parents are working so you can say it's ideal all you want but it's not reality yeah sure i i agree with
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that i mean and that's most of the blame can be rested on feminism okay if you feel that way it's not just
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that i feel that way to be clear i think women should have the option to work but i think there
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should be a cultural narrative and push to actually push towards nuclear family and traditional gender
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roles because there's been a massive push ever since feminism to no no women focus on college focus on
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your career family children should be secondary i think it's it's built like that because
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men will leave you and then what do you have you have nothing but a child to take care of
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our divorce rates are the highest they've ever been exactly now now it's women will leave you
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it's not clear to me if men were like massively divorcing their wives in the 50s we have one
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person here that's literally a victim of that i know multiple people okay and being left yeah men and
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women cheat but it's like we should like so we're gonna need to have something for our own like if
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we're gonna be divorced what are we gonna do like we you as a human being you should make sure you're
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good because you come into this world alone you're gonna die out of this world alone like you need to
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make sure that you're good and to be so like centered around dating and just like a significant other or
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children or whatever it's it's talks it can be toxic and it can be self-imploding because it's like
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when are you going to take care of you and make sure that you're good and stop letting everyone
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suck all the energy out of you like i i almost feel like it's a privilege to not have to work
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to have a man there what happens if you guys get divorced like you need to have something for
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yourself well there's there's robust legal system that protects no there's no alimony though i'm
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pretty i don't know if that's the only state that doesn't have alimony uh i my understanding is the
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majority of states in this country do have alimony so that would be one mechanism by which um women
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could be protected in the event of some divorce but overwhelmingly men don't initiate divorces so
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it seems like women initiate even if women do initiate divorces more even if that is true as
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they should because why should someone stay married to someone and be unhappy for the rest of your life
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oh so okay that so men can also just okay so what if the man just wants to divorce a woman for that
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reason okay cool but the woman should have something to fall back on like who's going to take care of
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you that's exactly that's the whole point of like that's the whole reason honestly i think feminists
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even made it such a huge issue is like well you need to what do i do right like you need to make sure
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that you are good well this hold on this idea that purpose in life isn't just to have kids and like
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serve a man this idea that women who have been married for years and years and years and they're just
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going to end up destitute and homeless because they get divorced it's totally bogus of course
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it is going to have a financial impact on the woman but this idea that like women can't you know
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end up finding a job or put picking their life together is ridiculous she wants to have a nine
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to five their whole life like no who wait what repeat that nine to five their whole life wait i don't
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wait wait that doesn't even make sense so okay isn't just going to get divorced and then have a
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career waiting for her like she needs to build something for herself she can get hold on yeah
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okay if you've been out of the workplace for a while yeah maybe it's going to be difficult you're
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not going to be jobless you'll find a job eventually you'll find your way this idea that women are going
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to be homeless there's massive social security or excuse me social safety nets for women there's
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plenty of like it's not enough there's plenty but also i don't understand this idea that that the
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woman doesn't want a nine to five but you're arguing that they should have a nine to five which is it
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pick a lane no no it's either nine to five a career not a nine to five a career does not have to be
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nine to five hold on women throughout their whole lives will have a nine to five isn't that a career
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by the way no no that's working for somebody yeah it's a job where you're working a slave to the
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system yeah that's not most people are a slave to the system exactly it's not okay it's not what's not
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good you realize whoa wait that's that's incoherent hold on wait wait you realize that society is
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for society function people are slaves to the system and have nine to five jobs and are employees
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like that's the majority of people that's great but it shouldn't you shouldn't do that your entire
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life like leave that what's wrong with that people well what's wrong with more to life than that
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that's such a dull life that's i know okay not everybody's gonna be a rock star not ever not
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even about that it's like like other countries like people like be having a job like like the
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things that we get taught here in united states is just like it's dull it's dull and it's and you
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think in italy everybody's a fucking rock star that's not no but there i'm glad you brought up
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italy action is working like there's like literally but but this idea that that's the
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sad life who wants to like work like their whole life like that's not so many people do that you
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guys live in fantasy their life no not necessarily i think no i think look a job maybe it's for nine
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to five people let me finish let me finish i look maybe like yeah having a nine to five might not be
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super fulfilling but most people realize that you know what i'm not going to amount to anything more
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that's horrible okay well it is that's the american okay welcome to reality welcome here's your wake
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up america bro what bro you don't know hold on i actually think we are so pampered that we believe
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we all are owed some amazing career and we you all want to be rock stars and movie stars and all
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and fucking boss babes all this bullshit no it's not there's a greater duty than just
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fucking traveling and getting fucked by some guy in abiza nobody's saying that nobody's traveling is
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that's great traveling everyone to travel like that like that's how you ignorant world that's how
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you ignorant people don't travel women and men mass travel is like a very it's a blip on the radar in
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terms of human history most people didn't leave fucking 10 miles for all of human history you lived in your
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fucking village for your whole life i don't think look traveling's great i actually don't think it's
09:15:13.800
all that sad humans have been happy living in their village having families having children traveling's
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great you can do it you don't need to be some like people who drive buses for work go on vacations
09:15:28.040
this idea that vacations and traveling is exclusively like the realm of the ultra wealthy is ridiculous
09:15:34.840
people with normal jobs travel all the time they even travel internationally this idea that
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well you know if you have a nine to five job no probably the majority of people who do travel have
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normal nine to five jobs you don't need to be some giga millionaire playboy playgirl whatever to
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go to costa rica you don't have to be that there you could be right but it's not sad to have a nine to
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five job people the point i was going to make is people make the trade-off they're like you know
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what look i'm not going to be a movie star i'm not going to be a rock star i'm not going to do some
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big massive thing but they will say you know what i've got the job it covers my expenses i can have my
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leisure time after work and on the weekends i can enjoy and i can pursue my passions on my time off
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it's usually not the case with the nine to five like at all hold on you have weekends hold on
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there's plenty what it's not enough three days is not enough the weekend this is the majority of
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people have a paycheck hold on the majority of people have these jobs and they live hat mostly
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happy fulfilling lives and this idea that if you have a nine to five it's all gloom and doom and
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you're no they enjoy their leisure time off of work yeah sure it'd be nice if nobody ever had to work
09:16:54.360
ever i guess and we could just play video games all day and fuck and do all this crazy
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definitely create a like bigger like a career you don't need to just have a nine to five and then
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marry someone have kids then you guys don't work out then it's back to a nine to five why would you
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assume that though why does that have to be the because if a woman is not banking anything anything
09:17:16.120
for herself what's gonna happen she's had will have nothing but a basic job okay and what about if a
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woman strictly pursues her career ambitions and she's 35 and she doesn't have kids and she doesn't
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have a family and then she goes she we push it to 40 and we push it to 45 so there's negative outcomes
09:17:33.960
there's negative outcomes well what's what's wrong with a woman getting married nothing but definitely
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have something for yourself don't just be a housewife if you can assume the worst for the
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traditional scenario then you also consume the worst for the modern scenario which is
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she never gets married she never has kids and she dies alone it's not dying alone i would love to die
09:17:59.000
with my friends like are you kidding me you think they're your friends now but i tell i'm guarantee
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you if they end up with somebody you'll call them once a year and you'll never see them trust me
09:18:09.560
that's not true trust me i've got a bunch of friends who got families yeah but that's the
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issue it changes it changes that's the issue with your generation my generation this is going to be
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more the case for your generation i just don't think so what to each we have a way more sense of
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community we have a way more i i would be willing to bet that you two don't know each other in 20 years
09:18:30.760
time how long have you known each other long enough wait what a year no you met three months
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ago how long have you guys known each other a couple years you guys won't be friends in 20 years
09:18:43.320
yeah that's just not the case okay prove me wrong we've gone through way way too much
09:18:49.320
and we literally live together like thanks to anybody okay what happens when homegirl over here
09:18:55.240
she wants to move in with her fiancee in i don't know new york and you want to stay on the west
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coast that's fine we already we literally live bi-coastal like the reality is we're gonna have
09:19:08.440
multiple homes like we already do hit me up we already do that send me a reminder send me a
09:19:13.240
reminder email in 20 years we'll see if you guys are still friends i will do that perfect so brian i got
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a question for you why do you think a majority of the women file for divorce because i've heard you
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take that stance before on the uh it depends so it depends it depends oh
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that is funny he didn't like that word the whole time well there no but there are actually different
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reasons for why people get divorced so i mean there's financial reasons obviously there can be like
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abuse there can be infidelity but my understanding the primary reason why uh that that is cited for
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divorce is financial reasons uh so yeah i mean i i don't know specifically i think women just
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are just on they ultimately end up unhappy vaguely unhappy you know oh you know whatever
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he's not abusive he doesn't mistreat me he doesn't cheat but i'm just not happy
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i feel like i don't think that's the majority of women filing for divorce so i i think it's mostly
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abuse statistics it's not no no no there's no way the majority of divorces are due to abuse i'm not
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saying that it's it's strictly abuse but what if because i do know of ladies whose husbands
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left them wanted the divorce but would not initiate it and told the wives you have to go and fill out the
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paperwork and do it because i'm not going to do it but i'm never coming back to you so in that
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instance for the statistics it's oh the woman filed for the divorce but she didn't want that so
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my thing is there's more than just oh it was financial oh she's unhappy oh there's this i just
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want to know how the data was broken down that you had i don't i don't know the specific reasons
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for you know whatever i know that women do overwhelmingly initiate divorces my understanding
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is most divorces are due to some financial issues financial reasons that's what i've heard
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but um i mean to say that majority of divorces are due to abuse i don't know that i was no evidence for
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that i don't i haven't i don't have a phone i can't do any like i can't do any like searching up but
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you can so you can let us know what i mean what is it what's the cause i didn't know if there was
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also like the group of men who are like i don't want to go initiate the divorce i'll let her do
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that she can do all the work i want my hands clean of it oh and by the way that statistic will go back
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on you because you're the petitioner so it makes the women out to be the ones who are the bad guys
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in this years in that case i just didn't know if your research had it broken down by percentages like
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that that kind of happened with my parents that they were in a not great real it wasn't abusive
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or anything but they just weren't good for each other they stayed together and my dad was very much
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in denial about it but you wouldn't get file so my mom did when i was 21 i wasn't surprised at all but
09:22:12.760
it you know came back on her now that now 10 years or 11 years out um they're actually both doing
09:22:20.200
pretty well for themselves and oddly enough my relationship with my dad improved greatly after
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they got divorced so uh women to think for the uh looks like you bought a hoodie thank you very much
09:22:31.560
for your merch shop purchase uh i don't know i guess to wrap things up here um i think the best way to
09:22:37.960
structure society on the macro and micro level would be to have nuclear family to have um
09:22:45.640
to have a more traditional dynamic i think that's the best for society uh i think probably women will
09:22:54.280
be happier with that kind of arrangement men will probably be happier marriages will last longer
09:22:59.320
children will be happier i'm not saying women shouldn't be able to work but i think the same
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sort of programming and propaganda that we've put out to make women believe that yeah boss babe college
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blah blah blah pursue career pursue career pursue career to the detriment of pursuing
09:23:18.600
marriage relationship children etc we should have some counter programming counter propaganda
09:23:25.240
to say work is there if you want it but this is the more fulfilling path husband children
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that's more fulfilling i think once again it depends oh my god
09:23:42.520
but you know i definitely i do know some women in my life who don't like working and would love to be
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stay-at-home moms and yeah not everyone's cut out for a career just like growing up you know
09:23:55.720
yo thank you for the gift of 20 appreciate it uh they really pushed college for everyone but some
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people are more suited for the trades so there's nothing wrong with telling people he can be a
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stay-at-home mom so okay i i think it's a better way to structure society though all right let's hear
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okay cool all right well i think that's pretty much it any final thoughts from anybody otherwise i'll wrap
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up the show thank you for this opportunity thank you it was great being on here thank you guys you
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guys are cool it was a fun panel uh final thing can you guys make a machine gun noise one last time just
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kidding i'll wait i'll wait to do it um okay so i'd like to end the show by seeing if we can't
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ask cena to stop being a strumpet on the internet will you stop doing only fans tonight where's the
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one dollar the one dollar the two dollar two dollar bill oh my god she's already trying to finesse uh
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okay so is that is that a no then no she won't stop doing are you gonna pay her bills stop doing
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are you gonna pay her bills i'll hire you you can be you can be uh like on uh one of the felicities
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you can just you just you yeah uh no you can you can be a background character like felicity
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okay anyways uh sorry well gg well played to the panel last call hit the like button please on your way out
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