30 Year Old PERFECT 10⧸10 (Megan Fox Level) WILL NOT Settle For LESS Than A BILLIONAIRE?! 5ft Girl Bare MINIMUM Height Requirement For Men Is 6ft2?! SIMP Bought Her A HOUSE?! | Dating Talk #235
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7 hours and 49 minutes
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178.87564
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422
Summary
On this episode of Whatever Dating Talk, we have a special guest on the show, Alex! We talk about the recent attack on Andrew Wilson, the "Big Labia Matter" movement, and much, much more!
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Yep. Okay. Check out my non-profit movement, Big Labia Matter, or BLM for short, because all
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labia can't matter until Big Labia Matter. We're working to ban cosmetic labioplasty procedures
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If you can get that pulled up to the behind-the-scenes tab. So, we post our stream schedule,
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behind-the-scenes, hate mail, a bunch of other stuff. Do you have it? Yep. So, guys, on our
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dating talk last week, Andrew Wilson was viciously attacked and assaulted, and I posted the behind-the-scenes,
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my point-of-view cell phone footage of the vicious and dastardly attack on Andrew Wilson. So, that's
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posted in the behind-the-scenes tab, Discord.gg slash whatever. So, if you want to see that
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feralness, go check that out. Disclaimer, the views expressed by the guests do not necessarily
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reflect the, excuse me, the views of the whatever channel. With that said, without further ado,
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we're going to have the guests introduce themselves. So, please, tell us your name, age, occupation,
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where you're from, and education. Go ahead. That's a lot. Hi, everybody. I'm Alex. The last time I was
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on this. Go ahead. You're, not you. Not, just go ahead. Okay. The last time I was on this podcast,
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I was still using my fake name. So, my real name is Alex. I'm 27 now. I'm from Arizona. What else?
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What I do for a living. Yeah. Social media and reality TV star. And. Don't you do, you do OnlyFans
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too? Is that correct? That's social media. Yeah. Okay. What do you. If I can list all the platforms
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if you want. Okay. What's your primary platform? Typically, people have primary platforms. Well,
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how I make money primarily. Hmm. OnlyFans. Check it out. Um, my education. Yeah. I graduated pre-med
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from University of Arizona. Bear down. You got your bachelor's? Yeah. Okay. Pre-med. And, uh,
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you said you're from Arizona and then you were recently on a reality TV show. Is that correct?
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Yeah. Okay. Which one? I'm sorry. You're supposed to ask me the questions. Yeah. Which one?
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Temptation Island on Netflix. Go check it out. Do you know what a prompt is? Hello? Do you know
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what a prompt is? Fucking ridiculous. You always say don't cut you off. So, um, I'm asking. I'm waiting
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for the question. All right. What about you? Hi, I'm Selena. I'm 22 and I'm from San Francisco,
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but I live in Las Vegas and I do bottle service and content creation. And then I also just got my
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bachelor's of science in entrepreneurship from San Jose state. Okay. And, uh, you're from where
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again? Sorry. San Francisco. San Francisco. Got it. Okay. And you do OnlyFans? I do. What kind
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of content you do on there? Um, I just started, so I'm super new, but I did a little bit of
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everything. So, you know, some fun stuff. Entrepreneurship is a bachelor of science?
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Yeah. It's a, it's a bachelor of science in business administration.
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Yes. What about you? Hi, I'm Mitchie. I'm 28. Um, I work in nightlife. I also do content
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creation and then I'm from Los Angeles. Okay. Mitchie, is it short for Michelle or?
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Um, it's Mitchell. Mitchell. Okay. But you go by Mitchie. Yeah. Okay. And, uh, you said you're
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from Los Angeles. Any, uh, I might miss this. Education? Oh yeah. And then, yeah, I have a
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bachelor's in media. From what university? Um, Riverside. UC Riverside? UCR? Okay. And, uh,
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is it a bachelor of arts? Yeah, it's a bachelor of arts. Okay. Got it. What about you?
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Hi, I'm Eve. I'm from Santa Cruz, California. I'm a full-time student at Cabrillo College.
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I'm a health science major. Sorry. Could you repeat your, uh, age? Yeah, I'm 19. 19. Okay. And
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you're working on a bachelor's degree? Yes. In what? Um, health science. Health science. Got it. Okay.
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Any work currently? Any job or? Full-time student. Full-time student. Okay. Cool. What about you?
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I'm Haley. I'm 35. I'm an aesthetics practitioner slash TV personality slash OnlyFans creator.
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And I'm from London. Education, college, that's it. Okay. Did you, like, uh, completed some,
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like, did you get an associate's degree or whatever the equivalent would be in?
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I literally just did, like, my first year of college and then I started working. I went away
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and worked on the big boat, so, yeah. All right. Uh, what about you? Um, my name is Alana. I am 20
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and I'm studying dance at Cabrillo. All right. And where are you from? Santa Cruz. Santa Cruz. Got it.
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And are you a second year or third year? Um, second year. Wait, is it UC Santa Cruz or? Um, no, it's the
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community college. Oh, the community college in Santa Cruz. Got it. And you said dance. Are you,
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is there a focus, like, ballet or? Um, I do, like, circus dance mainly. Circus dance. What's that?
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Like, aerial arts. Okay. It's, like, the flying stuff. All right. That's really cool. Okay. All right.
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Cool. What about you? Um, I'm Destiny. I'm 18 years old. I work at a vet clinic, so I'm a vet
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assistant and I graduated high school. All right. And, uh, where are you from? Um, I'm from Orange
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County. Orange County. Okay. And are you in, like, a city college at all or? Um, no, not yet. Are you
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planning to go or just taking some time off? I'm taking some time off. Okay. All right. What about you?
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My name is Felicity. I'm 18 from Santa Barbara. I'm a dental assistant and I'm in college for
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business. All right. Great. Uh, we're going to go around the table once more. What is everybody's
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current relationship status? Uh, if you're single, how long have you been single and what's the
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longest relationship you've ever been in? What about you? I'm currently single. I went on a dating
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show that that wasn't for, um, that purpose. Um, I've been single for over three years now and my
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longest relationship was three and a half or four years. So single for four years, uh, the three and
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a half, four year relationship. Is that the one that ended three years ago? No. Okay. Uh, the four
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year, the four year relationship who broke up with who? I broke up with them. Okay. And then the most
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recent relationship, how long was that one? Like a year and a half. Um, okay. And then who broke up
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with who on that one? That one was more so mutual. Okay. Got it. All right. What about you? Uh, I'm
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also single. I've been single for about two and a half years. All right. Two and a half years. Longest
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relationship? My longest was about three years and that was the one that ended last. Okay. Uh, who broke
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up with who? It was me, but it was kind of like mutual because we just, I was moving and it just,
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it wasn't going to work. We couldn't do long distance. Okay. Got it. Um, I'm celibate for
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like a one and a half years. So single. Yes. Safe to assume. Well, single, not dating. Although I
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suppose you could be in a relationship and celibate. Um, no, that's abstinent. Celibate means like no
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dating or like even like kissing or holding hands or anything. I'm, no, my, my understanding
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of the, hold on. My understanding of the term celibacy pertains to, uh, sex. I think that's
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abstinent. Celibacy is sex. Celibacy. Well, that one's like sex too, but that one's, I think
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it's also dating included or like any like interaction with like, maybe it's like the definition that
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I have here just to kind of maybe clear this up, the state of abstaining from marriage and
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sexual relations. Yes, sir. Okay, girl. Just maybe clear, clear it up a little bit. Thank
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you. Um, okay. Well, we're not going to argue about the definition of celibacy, but in any
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case, uh, so you're not dating anybody. No. Okay. And you've been celibate for a year and
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a half. How long have you been single? Um, I don't claim anybody as my ex. So my whole
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life. What do you mean you don't claim, claim anybody as your ex? It never happened. I
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never talked to anybody. Okay. Interesting. I like that. You know what? Um. Oh, yeah. So
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they just don't, just like, do they just not exist to you now? Is that what it is? Wait,
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what? Do they just not exist to you now? Oh, yeah, exactly. You just don't talk to them.
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Yeah, it never happened. You don't talk about them. It never happened. Yes. Okay. Let me use
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that one, girl. Um, so when was your, uh, what was your longest relationship? Um, I never
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had one. Yeah. I mean, that's cute and all, but, um, what was your longest relationship?
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I never had one. Well, you, you're perhaps, uh, I don't know if the words delusional is appropriate
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or you're just choosing to not remember it, but that in which you're choosing to not remember,
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you did in fact objectively have a relationship. Can you define relationship?
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What, whatever your sense, did you call them boyfriend? No. And you weren't there? Did
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you say I love you to them? No. Okay. Then I'll ask a different question. What is the longest,
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uh, consecutive period of time that you dated somebody? Um, probably eight months. Eight
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months. Okay. And is this the individual in which you choose to not remember? Yes. Okay.
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It's quite funny actually. I might start doing this. That's what I said. Delete my memory of
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any trauma. So I don't really know how to have a productive conversation with you about this
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is a dating discussion podcast. If you're just gonna, I don't, you don't remember.
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So this is recent because you've been celibate for a year and a half. How about this? The eight
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month individual who you were seeing, was this the last person you had sex with? Yes.
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So is it safe to say you saw him a year and a half ago since you've been celibate for a year and a
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half? Mm-hmm. Okay. Thank you for that. Um, you're welcome.
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What I'm just curious. So you weren't in love with him. You only dated for eight months. Why do you want
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to forget about it? It doesn't seem like it was that serious.
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Mm. No, that's exactly why. Cause like, it wasn't serious. So like, I don't want to think about it.
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Do you do this with friend relationships as well? Or is it just sexual?
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Sometimes with friends, it depends. Like if they like did me dirty.
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Maybe it's something from your past. Maybe that's why you do that. Maybe I don't know. I'm just
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thinking it might be a trauma kind of thing that you choose to forget about it and just pretend it
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didn't happen. I don't know. Yeah. No, I feel like that's like, I just, yeah. Was it a traumatic
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relationship? I don't, I wouldn't like say so. Was it? Who broke up with who? Um, I like ghosted him.
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You ghosted him. Okay. Were you cheating on him? Oh my God. No. Was he cheating on you?
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He wasn't like cheating. Cause like he wasn't my man.
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There was no conversations about exclusivity or anything like that?
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Um, like there was, but it's not like he, it's not like he wanted to be exclusive. So that's why
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I don't consider him like I was dating him. Can I ask you just why both of you are smiling?
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Do you find this amusing? I mean, honestly, yeah. Yeah. This is kind of this interesting
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conduct when women are just being intentionally kind of, uh, malicious, especially when invited
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on a podcast in good faith. And I'm asking my questions in good faith. Um, let's try to fix
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the splits. Like, um, so it's kind of interesting that you kind of revel in this sort of trollish.
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No, it's a little bit. No, don't come at me. It's a little bit. I am coming at you because
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you're like smiling and you're right. It's uncomfortable. How else do you want me to react?
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It's funny. You're getting riled up. You could have just said, move on next. You're continuing
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the conversation. So no, I'd rather just people engage in good faith in the conversation. So I don't
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think I'm getting even, even if your assessment is that I'm getting riled up. Do you think there
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are situations in which it's justified for people to be like, Oh, okay. This person's like
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fucking with me. I'm kind of upset by this. Okay. I'm going to take it over then. No, you're
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not going to take it over. You're coming at me because I'm just sitting here like, yeah,
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because I I'm noticing that there's kind of a lack of accountability going on. How is this
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my problem? Because you're literally like, I'm smiling because it's like, uh, cause you're
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continuing the conversation. You're literally, stop. You're literally admitting, you're literally
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admitting when I called you out on it. You sound so unhinged. I just move the conversation. Do you
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want to be kicked out? Cause we can just kick you out because you were trolling before the show.
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You're giving me a bunch of flack before the show. I don't need, I don't want to deal with
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your attitude today. So if you, if you want to, you know, play this game, we can, if you want to roll
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your eyes, we can, I'm trying to have a good faith conversation. Point blank period. Okay.
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Can you ask the viewers if me smiling was me trolling the conversation? I'm so confused. I
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didn't say that. What did you say then? I was asking you why when she's trolling,
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you guys are reveling in the fact that she's like trolling the podcast and disrupting it
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instead of being like, Whoa, this is kind of annoying behavior.
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Wait, how am I trolling? I'm being serious. If you want to move on with the conversation,
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you could have, I'm, I thought you were entertaining it because you thought it was
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entertaining. So if you're, I was trying, no, I was not attempting to entertain it. I was clearly
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like, okay, this is kind of annoying. And then I was just asking like roundabout ways to get the
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information that could have just easily been answered by, Oh yeah, the last guy dated, uh,
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like a year and a half ago, dated him for eight months. That would have been it. That's all I
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needed. So how is that unhinged to be frustrated? Because you're reveling in it.
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I'm literally sitting here. Didn't even say anything. Yes. And so now I'm having a meta
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conversation about the fact that both of you are smiling, seemingly enjoying, not frustrated with
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her, but enjoying the degree to which she's sort of like sabotaging the show. Do you understand?
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I don't. I'm not really sure if she was trolling. Like, like kind of, she could be kind of serious.
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Okay. But you kept going with the conversation. So how is that our problem? Like I thought you're
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entertaining it for entertainment purposes. I know what the show entails. I've been on it two
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times already. You feed into it. So people get mad. If that's what you're trying to insight here,
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that's totally fine. It's a total straw man. Total straw man. I want Pete, look, I want, I prefer smooth
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streams. There's, there's a component of entertainment, but if I'm trying to have a good faith conversation
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with somebody, yeah, I want them to just answer the questions. And this is just like obnoxious to the
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viewers. They don't like when people are just like, yeah, they, they don't like it when people
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are just like beating around the bush when it comes to answering questions. Did I answer my
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questions? I was directing that at her, not at you. Okay. So I apologize for smiling. It was more than
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that. You were, I apologize. It was, it was funny because y'all were going back and forth. I apologize.
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I genuinely do. If you are truly upset by me, smiling, not really upset by it. I was questioning
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why, because it's, it's a female. Hey, you gotta, if you gotta hide that Blake, cause it's like
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blocking Andrew. Okay. Um, it's like an interesting female phenomenon where it's like, there's like
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this sort of malevolence in which you enjoy men getting frustrated, like justly frustrated by
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something. And you kind of like enjoy when men get frustrated and it's like this sort of malevolent
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thing. And so I'm like actually having a meta conversation about like, why is it that like
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women sort of like enjoy seeing like men, like trolling men and getting them frustrated?
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Well, I think you're projecting because- How is that projection? That's literally what you were doing.
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No, it wasn't. Go ahead. You guys were going back and forth in a conversation that you could
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have easily as the host just said, okay, we're moving on. On to you. No, but the thing is,
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no, I'm not going to allow that standard. I'm not going to stop. I'm not going to allow this
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standard of like, we've invited people on in good faith. I'm not going to just say, okay,
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you can, um, just not answer a basic question when you've been invited onto the podcast. So your,
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your solution is, oh, Brian, ignore the troll, move it on. No, I'm going to-
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I'm going to confront the troll and have them participate in good faith or they can kindly get
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kicked and leave the podcast. Do you understand?
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So do you want to answer the question in good faith?
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I've never had a relationship. So I did answer it.
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You did date a guy for a period of eight months.
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And it was a year and a half ago when you guys broke up.
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I'm currently in a relationship. I have been for the past five years. Not five years. God,
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Jesus. Um, six months. But my last relationship was five years too long. Got that a little bit
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confused and got it the wrong way around. Sorry about that. Okay. How, and your current relationship
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is how long again? Six months. Six months. Yeah. Okay. And you said longest was like five years?
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Five years. Yeah. What about you? Oh, um, I have a husband. No, I'm just kidding. Um,
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that's what I call him. But it literally just started talking to him. But, um.
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But it's not like serious. It's not like exclusive yet. We just started talking.
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Yeah. Got the ring? No, I'm just kidding. Um, yeah.
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Okay. And you've been seeing him for a month or how long?
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Okay. So, uh, you're 20. So it ended when you were, like, 16?
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Okay. So you dated him from, like, 13 to 16. The guy.
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No, it must have been, like, two, three years ago.
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I dated him in, like, freshman year of high school to, like, um, junior year.
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Okay. And how did you meet the current guy that you're seeing?
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I'm just like, I don't understand. That sounds pretty intense.
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I mean, it's kind of better than Tinder. At least you get to talk to the person.
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But I'm pretty sure. I am her friend. I'm pretty sure it happened naturally.
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Like, they were both, like, trolling one night.
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It's not Omegle. It's, like, the new one that's, like, the same thing.
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But you guys haven't had a conversation about exclusivity or monogamy?
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We're just, like, taking it slow. I don't know.
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So is this just, like, a hookup, casual, sneaky link type thing, or?
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So you're in a relationship with a guy you've never met with?
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It's just, like, the person I'm talking to currently.
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But it's not, there's other, are there other guys that you're talking to?
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I am single, and I last dated a guy, like, probably a year and a half ago, maybe a little
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And it was, my longest relationship was, like, four and a half years on and off.
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It's my longest relationship going on two years.
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So we're going to get into some of the, uh, pre-show notes, but first we have a couple
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Complete the sentence, peanut butter and macaroni.
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Uh, I do appreciate the, uh, the sprinkler or whatever that was.
00:26:24.680
We're going to get into the, uh, pre-show notes while we, uh, start there.
00:26:31.260
Let's, uh, let's start with the questionnaire first.
00:26:34.960
Uh, what would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband?
00:26:55.600
Uh, that's, uh, that's your serious, that's the minimum yearly income for your future husband.
00:27:08.200
It's interesting how people say they're not trolling when they actually are.
00:27:30.920
A billion dollars and nothing less is what you wrote.
00:27:36.420
The minimum yearly income to be your future husband.
00:27:57.900
Um, I'm going to probably leave this one up to the chat.
00:28:04.620
Um, there's already been too much trolling tonight.
00:28:07.100
Um, this might have to be, this might have to be a, um, well, so that, that was your good
00:28:23.340
I don't understand why I'm getting all the heat for the trolling.
00:28:46.500
I just think, like, it's not really fair to say that I'm trolling, right?
00:28:49.740
Because then we're going to go around later, around the table.
00:28:51.940
It's going to be like, rate yourself on a scale of one to ten.
00:28:54.860
And if we say ten, like, oh, you're delusional.
00:29:01.180
So, I just don't think it's really fair that you're coming at me saying that I'm trolling
00:29:11.000
How about, instead of that, you just say, I just don't believe you, right?
00:29:15.700
So, I just think that you're not telling the truth, that your minimum requirement is
00:29:21.600
For instance, have you ever actually dated a billionaire?
00:29:29.420
And so, now we have evidence that there's a good chance that you're probably not telling
00:29:36.200
If your history, for instance, is not dating billionaires, right?
00:29:42.140
I mean, and Andrew, I'd like you to weigh in on this.
00:29:44.700
The whole, I choose not to answer that question.
00:29:55.780
Well, Andrew, you asked her, well, here, we can test this.
00:30:00.740
Have you dated a billionaire or the men you've dated?
00:30:10.260
Because it would give evidence against the position she gave.
00:30:26.260
The men that you're sleeping with, are they billionaires?
00:30:33.300
What does it matter if they're billionaires or not?
00:30:38.520
We'll just say out of all the men you've ever dated, even if one has been a billionaire,
00:30:42.980
would you say the vast majority of them were not billionaires?
00:30:45.200
Again, this question is so not something that I need to answer.
00:30:52.500
You're carrying it on and then you're like, I'm going to kick you off.
00:30:56.280
I'm just curious if the majority of the men that you have dated were billionaires,
00:31:06.440
Well, then it seems to give a counter evidence to your position that the minimum requirement
00:31:09.840
that you would need from a guy would be a billion dollars a year.
00:31:13.520
Not only does that obviously sound absurd, but then evidence from your own mouth is basically
00:31:20.560
So we're kind of left with the conclusion that you're just giving bad faith answers in
00:31:24.220
order to derail and kind of be a pain in the ass.
00:31:28.700
What would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband?
00:31:40.640
What would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband?
00:31:47.500
So, I mean, there's some degree of, like, realisticness, you know, to the question.
00:31:57.940
And because billionaires aren't realistic in your world doesn't mean they're not realistic
00:32:09.160
But you can't ask me what I would want, ideally, and then tell me my answer is fake.
00:32:18.480
That's, like, not really, that doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
00:32:24.260
Do you agree with me that there's inferences with questions?
00:32:28.440
Like, when somebody asks you a question, they might not be semantically 100% correct.
00:32:33.400
But even if they're not semantically 100% correct, you can infer what the meaning of
00:32:37.660
Like, for instance, if every other woman at the table answered the question the way that
00:32:41.920
it was intended, except you, wouldn't that also lend us even more credibility that you're
00:32:48.000
Well, I mean, every woman at the table is not me.
00:32:50.600
So, I can't really compare myself to the other women, respectfully.
00:32:57.240
Like, how would we ever make a comparison as to whether or not a person was delusional unless
00:33:00.960
they were making a comparison with people were not delusional?
00:33:20.920
But that really has nothing to do with my question, which is, how is it that we would
00:33:24.780
ascertain if you were delusional without comparing you to other people?
00:33:29.840
We could compare how a regular person would infer the question and then based on your
00:33:34.180
answer and then the attitude behind it, whether or not you're telling the truth or trolling
00:33:45.300
But I'm not comparing myself to other women at this table right now.
00:33:48.600
You asked me a question about myself and I answered the question about myself.
00:33:51.620
So just to be clear, by the way, this is yearly income, so it's not that you just want to date
00:34:01.780
You want somebody who makes a minimum yearly income of $1 billion and nothing less, nothing
00:34:09.500
So for example, you wouldn't date somebody who makes $750 million a year.
00:34:14.460
Sorry, I must have missed the annual part then.
00:34:51.500
So I suppose I could give you one final chance.
00:35:02.300
I feel like I'm being singled out here, to be honest with you.
00:35:06.580
Because you came at me saying that I was trolling before the show.
00:35:12.080
So I'm trying to pick up the energy, crack some jokes.
00:35:18.480
So if you think that's me trolling, I apologize for bringing in good energy.
00:35:23.960
The thing is, though, is the fact that you refused to answer the question of all the
00:35:30.160
men you've dated or slept with or been involved with previously, none of them are billionaires.
00:35:55.140
But it would be, it would provide, I mean, you're refusing to answer it because it would
00:35:58.780
provide counter evidence to your claim, your dubious claim here that you want the minimum
00:36:06.400
You want, you will only date a billionaire and nothing less.
00:36:09.640
But this is clearly not true if you're sleeping with dating men who are not billionaires, especially
00:36:18.320
So when's the last time you were romantically or sexually involved with a man?
00:36:42.700
Andrew, what do you think about this one from her?
00:36:44.860
Would you rather cross paths with a man or a bear in the forest, to which your answer
00:37:00.740
And then you said, no, because you don't date, even though there seems to be some evidence
00:37:08.040
And then how tall are you and what's the minimum height of a man you would date?
00:37:14.520
What's the minimum height of a man you would date?
00:37:16.380
I don't think height really matters, to be honest.
00:37:23.100
So you would date a guy who's shorter than you?
00:37:26.300
You've dated them, but is that your preference?
00:37:35.460
I would date, okay, I know where you're going with that.
00:37:39.480
I would date, you're asking specifically about height.
00:37:42.460
How do you reconcile not, well, being a personality person, but you refuse to date anybody besides
00:37:53.020
I know, but you also said you're a personality gal.
00:37:56.620
So wouldn't this extend itself to somebody's income or financial standing?
00:38:03.900
So how do you reconcile personality, I only care about personality, with you will only
00:38:17.960
Personality is more important than like other things like height.
00:38:34.280
My personality to you is not more important than money.
00:38:47.960
Yeah, so personality to you, less important than money.
00:39:04.980
Did you tell the person that you were going to be dating that you cared more about his money
00:39:15.280
I mean, is that a legitimate answer you'd give on a dating show?
00:39:19.640
Like, if the guy asked you, do you care more about my personality or my money?
00:39:41.520
Is it just to grift, or are you really that thirsty for attention and to gotcha men?
00:39:57.780
I think you guys are thinking my personality is more troll-y than, like, I actually, like,
00:40:01.660
this is just me being me, so I'm not coming on here to be a troll.
00:40:06.200
I've been on here two times already, and somehow, I don't know, today you came in with a different
00:40:10.860
energy towards me, so I think that's you problem, more so, from the beginning, but I came here
00:40:18.260
I wouldn't travel all the way here if I wasn't coming here in good faith.
00:40:32.720
The best option is to leave her there and ignore her for the rest of the show.
00:40:43.800
I haven't seen any of the episodes that you were on.
00:40:45.680
I don't recall engaging with you, so, but it does seem like a very bad faith answer to
00:40:49.880
put the minimum down for what you'd accept from a man to be a billion dollars, that seems
00:40:54.520
Well, see, again, you guys are using the wrong words, right?
00:41:03.260
Yeah, why would you settle for less than what you want?
00:41:11.320
So, if that's what you want, you wouldn't settle for less than you want, that seems like
00:41:19.480
If somebody asked me, what's the quality you want in your wife?
00:41:22.060
And I said for her to be faithful, I wouldn't settle for less than her being faithful, right?
00:41:28.480
If you say, I want a man who makes a billion dollars, you get to settle for less than what
00:41:33.980
This isn't apples to oranges, because her being faithful is a little bit out of your...
00:41:44.880
What you're saying, though, like, that's out of your control if your wife is faithful,
00:41:55.720
But is that, like, going to necessarily happen or not?
00:42:02.100
I was really here to just, like, be chill, but, like...
00:42:10.680
It's not like we're doing blood support debates here or anything.
00:42:15.080
Just kind of clearing up some bizarre semantics, because it was a bizarre answer, and it seemed
00:42:20.200
Can you at least grant that it would seem to be very trollish if you say, I want a man
00:42:27.020
who makes a billion dollars, that that seems just slightly absurd.
00:42:31.800
And when you match it on your personality, you don't seem like you're a complete idiot,
00:42:43.900
And then you guys can do what you want with that answer.
00:42:49.160
I think it's okay to have high standards, especially because you're beautiful and, like, you know,
00:42:54.700
you do OF, you have a lot of money, you're on Temptation Island.
00:43:01.420
What's the difference between high standards and unreasonable standards?
00:43:07.500
Like, if this person has a really good personality and they don't make a billion dollars, like,
00:43:13.060
She said she won't settle for less, nothing less than a billionaire.
00:43:18.900
So, and she said she values money over personality.
00:43:26.400
Would you rather date a guy who makes, like, a, let's say, $90,000 a year and he treats you amazingly,
00:43:33.680
or a guy who's a billionaire, and you've got to pick one, a guy who's a billionaire but he's abusive?
00:43:46.360
And you can choose to pick the guy who's not abusive.
00:43:57.720
Because I would assume that you would be some sort of trophy for him or he wouldn't marry you.
00:44:02.040
There's a lot of factors, I think, that would go into that question specifically for me to be able to answer that.
00:44:19.140
For, like, a guy that treats you well over an abusive person.
00:44:33.300
Because, right, people have different standards for relationships.
00:44:38.500
And he doesn't really care that much about your opinions.
00:44:52.860
What opinions are you going to give a billionaire that he needs, right?
00:45:04.240
What opinion would I give a billionaire that he would care about?
00:45:10.280
That made me kind of feel sad that you would say that, even, about yourself.
00:45:21.780
Yeah, why don't you repeat back my question so that I know you even heard it.
00:45:25.060
Your question was, would you pick the guy that was making $90,000 and treated you really well,
00:45:31.820
or the billionaire that doesn't treat you as well?
00:45:42.660
I mean, maybe you're just a reprehensible person.
00:46:03.480
I don't think that works, though, because he's against plastic surgery.
00:46:06.720
So, to say, you know, if I were to fix that problem, I think Brian would actually be very much against that.
00:46:26.440
I'm more of a, not really an ass guy, not really a boob guy, more of a labia guy.
00:46:40.580
Or do you just, like, take them to bed and then you decide, like, ah.
00:46:48.060
Or do you think that's a little bit unrealistic?
00:46:56.920
That's the secret sauce because I can't be given it away and other dudes are going to steal my fight.
00:47:02.400
They're going to be like, oh, there's that girl who meets this, like, visible criteria.
00:47:06.600
I'm a get because he's, like, also into big labia.
00:47:30.280
What would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband?
00:47:39.260
But I would say, like, maybe about, like, a million.
00:47:52.640
When you say you strive for in terms of your own earnings?
00:48:06.260
You realize, like, the orders of magnitude difference between billionaire versus millionaire.
00:48:28.740
Personally, it doesn't matter to me what somebody earns.
00:48:32.800
I would choose happiness over being financially comfortable.
00:48:36.760
Can I have you scoot your mic to the edge of the table?
00:48:44.760
So, I mean, there's not, like, do you want to get married?
00:48:49.160
One day, probably get married, maybe have children.
00:48:52.720
But I feel like I'm financially stable enough by myself.
00:48:57.340
I don't need someone to look after me like that.
00:49:00.780
And I think happiness is so much more important.
00:49:02.920
You could date someone that is seriously rich, which I have done in the past, and that doesn't
00:49:09.480
You know, they could be, every time, it's personality.
00:49:18.280
So, you would date a guy who, like, works at McDonald's, or?
00:49:24.400
I wouldn't say, do you know what, actually, yeah.
00:49:29.520
If, in this life, I met someone, and I really, really loved them, and they weren't there,
00:49:43.480
Um, I think it doesn't necessarily matter as long as they can support themselves and
00:49:50.900
aren't asking me for money, or, like, you know, um, and that they're a loving person.
00:50:01.800
Like, when, and this is for, like, your future husband, right?
00:50:07.440
You're probably not particularly preoccupied with, like, oh, is this guy making a hundred
00:50:13.480
figures, like, or a hundred thousand dollars for most people in college?
00:50:19.060
You're probably more, like, are they attractive?
00:50:25.680
But when you start getting a bit older, and you're like, okay, well, I want to have kids
00:50:29.120
and a family, and here's what my, do I want to stay home while I'm pregnant?
00:50:33.100
There's going to be certain considerations when it comes to, oh, do you want to stay
00:50:37.820
in Southern California or, you know, wherever you're from?
00:50:43.880
Your husband's income is probably going to have, or whatever, a long-term boyfriend is
00:50:52.800
So, if we fast forward, if we fast forward, like, you and you to, like, when you guys are
00:50:57.100
28, 29, maybe you're, like, looking to, okay, I want to, like, have kids, start a
00:51:02.440
family, do you have a sense of, like, okay, well, I don't want to date the guy who's
00:51:05.940
working, like, a part-time job at McDonald's, making $20 an hour, probably want to date a
00:51:12.880
Is there anything that comes to mind for you on that?
00:51:14.820
I think the best way I would say it is, like, they have to have this, like, drive to do
00:51:23.560
You know, like, yeah, that drive is attractive.
00:51:32.520
If someone comes along, and I really like them, and they're driven, and they, like, have
00:51:35.820
a good career, and they, like, know what their life wants to look like, or they're living
00:51:39.440
the life that they want to live, then, like, I love that.
00:51:42.920
I don't know if I would date someone at McDonald's just because they could strive for more.
00:51:47.400
But if they're working at McDonald's saving, and, like, there's a plan, then that's different.
00:52:18.860
Do you want to, like, how many kids do you want?
00:52:25.580
And do you want to remain in Southern California?
00:52:34.020
Would it be a low cost of living or high cost of living area?
00:52:40.780
When you do have kids, would you like to take time off from work when you're pregnant and
00:52:58.520
Like, do you, or are you just planning to, like, remain a vet tech?
00:53:03.340
I'm probably going to go first schooling, but I'm not too sure if I really want to stay
00:53:14.580
So, like, you know, you have time to figure things out, but do you have a sense of kind
00:53:24.500
Do you anticipate, would you like to be the breadwinner in the relationship?
00:53:37.380
Although, you want to have kids and take time off for pregnancy, and, okay.
00:53:42.880
Why, wouldn't there just be certain economic realities?
00:53:45.460
Like, okay, you want to have two to three kids.
00:53:52.520
You want to take time off from work to, you know, when they're babies or whatever.
00:53:57.900
How do you intend to, like, pay rent and other expenses?
00:54:02.300
I'm going to give it time before having, like, any kids.
00:54:05.760
So, that way, I'm able to save my money just in case, like, if the relationship doesn't
00:54:10.440
work out and he decides to leave, I'll be able to provide for the kid.
00:54:16.400
But, I mean, do you think it would be a consideration, though, when you're dating a guy and you're
00:54:21.120
like, okay, this is the guy I want to, like, marry and have kids with that, but, like, ooh,
00:54:27.160
we could, this could be, like, a financially straining situation if he's kind of sitting at home
00:54:32.760
playing video games all day and not working or working, like, a part-time minimum wage
00:54:38.840
Yeah, well, then we'll have a talk about that one.
00:54:47.260
Maybe find a different job if that's not working out.
00:54:55.480
Okay, so there would be some degree of participation in the workforce that you would deem desirable
00:55:02.720
or acceptable when it comes to a guy you're dating.
00:55:13.280
Okay, so we got a billion here, a million dollars a year, a million dollars a year.
00:55:22.840
Okay, well, here in the notes you said $200,000.
00:55:28.720
But a million a year, a million a year, $200,000 a year.
00:55:31.740
Andrew, do you have any objections to these numbers?
00:55:39.780
Well, every one of the numbers is fairly unrealistic.
00:55:44.020
So if you just break it down, even if you're talking about millionaires,
00:55:48.260
there are actually a significant amount of millionaires in the United States, right?
00:55:51.100
It's around, as of 2023, this is just cursory, right?
00:55:55.180
But somewhere around 20-plus million millionaires.
00:55:59.060
But you have to remember that most of those are based around retirement accounts,
00:56:04.220
They paid into it their whole life, this type of thing.
00:56:06.700
So they're near retirement age, so they have a little bit of cash tied up in nest eggs, right?
00:56:13.340
But people who have, like, actual, in your age group, dating market,
00:56:17.500
who have millions of dollars, which is liquid, it's extremely rare.
00:56:27.540
But the second is, even when you get into the hundreds of thousands of dollars, right?
00:56:32.860
It's like, the pool of men who's available, again, in that age bracket,
00:56:38.200
who makes 200,000-plus dollars per year, very, very small.
00:56:45.060
You can see the percentage of men who would be available in a pool who were over six foot
00:56:49.040
in your age bracket who made the amount of money that you wanted.
00:57:01.120
My longest relationship, the three years, he was a millionaire, and he was over six foot.
00:57:05.860
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on.
00:57:11.520
Your three-year relationship that you had in high school was with a millionaire.
00:57:42.440
Millionaires and people have hundreds of millions or even billions of dollars will definitely have
00:57:51.020
There's many women who will have sex with them, in fact, many of them.
00:57:56.420
But the point is, is whether or not you actually catch the ring, right?
00:58:04.900
So, I actually, I broke up with him, and we almost got engaged at a certain point, so
00:58:14.360
I also think just another point, and again, let me clarify before I say anything on this
00:58:18.480
podcast, because today is just, I guess, not my day on here.
00:58:20.820
It is also, no one said anything about an age range, so for you to specifically say, you
00:58:27.460
know, it's not realistic to date anybody in our age range with that amount of money, whoever
00:58:52.760
I'm being completely honest, and again, not trolling.
00:59:06.680
I mean, if he's the perfect guy, and I really like him, and I like his personality, my boyfriend's
00:59:18.220
So, I presupposed an age range, and I presupposed an age range based on the hard data which is
00:59:25.480
The hard data that's available to us shows that most women date within about a few years
00:59:32.740
Men tend, they like to date younger if they can, but most can't, so they usually end up
00:59:40.320
Now, you might wonder why this is, even though there's really attractive, like you said, 45-year-olds.
00:59:44.980
It's because meeting people usually happens in a compartmentalized way, like you meet them
00:59:49.580
at work, or you meet them in your social circle, or things like this.
00:59:53.560
So, because it's a localized connection, that's how most people tend to meet and date, they're
00:59:58.560
usually going to be within the same age bracket, roughly.
01:00:03.020
So, yes, I did presuppose it, but I had a justification for the presupposition.
01:00:09.480
I just want to bring up that point, because I felt like that was being left out.
01:00:16.120
I mean, even though if you look at the data, I believe the top 1% of earners, that's 450,
01:00:26.320
maybe it's changed, but at least what it was previously, $450,000 and up, that puts you
01:00:33.720
So, if you're looking at making a millionaire, that's even less, that's a portion of a percentage.
01:00:45.480
You didn't raise your hand when you was asking about the age thing.
01:00:51.160
I'm thinking, I mean, I was going to raise it for like $35,000.
01:00:55.520
Yeah, but I'm down for like maybe like $40,000.
01:00:57.200
And you're currently in a relationship, correct?
01:01:08.420
He told me not to talk about him, so I'm not going to talk about him.
01:01:11.040
Well, I think you could probably just say his, I don't think revealing his like field
01:01:14.840
of study is going to reveal anything about him, but.
01:01:23.340
But we will end up making around the same amount of money.
01:01:26.840
I mean, a lot of people go to college thinking they're going to be a big rock star and then
01:01:35.340
Well, you're not revealing which one it is, so I can't say, but I'll just take your word
01:01:41.040
And I guess my final question on this, billion dollars, a million, a million, 200,000.
01:02:11.420
I'd give it, you know, I'm not going to give him a number.
01:02:22.220
Do you think you're going to get the guy who makes a million dollars a year?
01:02:32.120
That's why I wrote it because I like to manifest, but I think so because we work in nightlife,
01:02:46.420
You doing the secret where you write down the thing that you want and your thoughts go
01:02:52.780
out to the ethos and the universe serves up this thing that you want on a silver platter
01:02:57.540
for you based around your thought pattern recognition.
01:03:06.720
Well, I like to speak it into existence or like, you know, write it down.
01:03:22.780
Well, I guess I almost don't want to wish you guys good luck because it's so ridiculous,
01:03:33.980
If you guys want a millionaire, you definitely need it.
01:03:37.720
If you want a billionaire, 200,000, that's still pretty high.
01:03:52.180
And Felicity's been on the show before, so we've already had the conversation.
01:04:01.660
I mean, if you are making that amount of money and you surround yourself with people who make
01:04:11.000
And so eventually if I work my way up, I could make that.
01:04:20.720
If you're a doctor, you can definitely make $200,000 a year.
01:04:22.980
So that's kind of where I based mine off of, you know?
01:04:26.100
Well, I will grant you that $200,000 is more realistic than a million a year, a million
01:04:34.280
It's still high, but I don't think it's, like, super unrealistic.
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But, like, if anyone could, I think they could.
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It's more so, like, the circles that you're in already.
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But I was saying if anyone could, like, you know.
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Like, you know, settling for, like, a smaller income, I feel like it's going to be hard.
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Especially, like, you were saying, I'm not saying settling in a sense, but you're
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saying, like, you want to take care of the kids, like, you know, as a mother, and, like,
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you want to take these trips and time off, and to have, like, that stable, traditional
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Is that what you want, the stable, traditional role?
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I mean, like, I would want a family and kids, and I want to be there for my kids.
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And, like, I didn't really see them too much when I was younger, so.
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So you said California is really expensive, but you said the minimum yearly income is a
01:05:31.600
So you, 150, or let's even put it at, like, $500,000 a year, that just.
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The question is, what would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband?
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I think the want in the question is what was throwing the answers, and, like, what you
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were looking for specifically, like, maybe next time.
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What would be the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband?
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The wording, I think, has went through some people.
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So what would your answer to, if we replace want, with what would be the minimum yearly
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Because I said, in general, billionaire, right?
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Boy, that's a really, really big jump from one billion dollars to half of one million dollars.
01:06:42.440
You're saying, what would I want it to be, specifically?
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Like, we're doing a realistic thing, because that was my answer.
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I feel like I don't value money, like, as my qualities of men that I, or top three qualities
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There's millionaires who don't make a million a year.
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Or, like, 300, 350,000 or whatever, and they're millionaires.
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Yeah, that was what I was getting at with my answer.
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He says, Chair One, you're a troll and no amount of denying will help your case.
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The kick might be imminent, but we'll see how it goes.
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Last week, Andrew was brutally attacked in person.
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Just totally, total chaos and feralness and all kinds of other adjectives.
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Whatever we post behind-the-scenes, other stuff.
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If you want, check out the behind-the-scenes footage of Andrew getting attacked there.
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And then she proceeded to insult me and Blake ruthlessly behind the scenes, which was not
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If you want 100% of your contribution to go towards the show, I'm going to do a couple
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Junior Soprano says, ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of one to ten.
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Can I give my honest answer of what I think, or am I going to be a troll?
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Well, I've been on twice already, and I said ten, so I'm going to stay with ten.
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But I guess for the sake of this, I'll go like eight or six.
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Didn't you, haven't you rated it higher before?
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I felt like you finally, like we were on the same page there, so I actually enjoyed that
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And I'm curious, though, you've had some plastic surgery, right?
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So the lip filler, just to be clear, the lip filler added two points to your...
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Well, for some people, some people go a little bit too far with it, don't they?
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Think of a woman who's a ten that we could like pull up another woman?
01:12:33.540
So your assessment of your own looks is you're just as attractive as Megan Fox.
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Oh, you said you can be delusional is what you're...
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I think life's a lot better when, like, you just...
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Think you're, like, the hottest piece of ass on the whole end.
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I mean, that's interesting, though, because do you think that might have an impact on,
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Whether you're a man or a woman who's delusional.
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If you're like, hmm, I'm this attractive, I deserve this caliber of person, but can't get
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At least for women, I can only get sexual, like, sexual access to these people.
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These men, but I can't lock them down for a relationship.
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So do you think being delusional is actually helpful?
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Because you move in the world with a different confidence.
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I've never had that problem that you're talking about in terms of, like, locking people down.
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You're 27 and you've been single for three years.
01:13:52.580
But you said you've never had any trouble locking people down, but you're sleeping and
01:13:59.140
Well, if I am hooking up with someone, it's one person at a time, but it's not like...
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But it doesn't mean that I'm not able to lock it down.
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So just to be clear, all these billionaire men that you're, like, dating and sleeping
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with, you're just like, oh, I'm just gonna, like, continue to, like, fuck different people.
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I'll be at one at a time and I'm not gonna actually, you know, get into a relationship.
01:14:35.540
Okay, if you find the right guy who's a billionaire.
01:14:51.820
Yeah, so, so you think that it would be, I guess, how do I want to frame this?
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If somebody, like, for example, let's say there was a guy who, he lived in his mom's
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basement, smoked weed every day, played video games, didn't have a job, he was, like, obese.
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I'm trying to think what other descriptors, like, Cheeto dust, the whole meme, whatever.
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I will only date, like, a, like, 10 out of 10 Victoria's Secret model.
01:15:30.240
You want to date a guy who's makes, who makes a billion dollars a year?
01:15:40.640
But why don't you answer my question before asking me a question?
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The question was, am I in the same boat as the person that you described?
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So the guy I described, do you think it would be reasonable for him to be, like, I'm not going to settle for less?
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I want a Victoria's, I want a virgin, Victoria's Secret supermodel, 10 out of 10.
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Not these, like, woke supermodels, none of that shit.
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Like, I'm talking, like, old school supermodels, that status, right?
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Like, most of y'all women would clown on a dude like that who's like, I'm going to wait for a Victoria's Secret model.
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I mean, he, first of all, that's none of my business on what that person wants and what they would try to go after.
01:16:32.640
Yeah, I'm asking you to engage with the hypothetical, so.
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So I said, I already told you, do you think that?
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That's cool, but do you think they're going to be able to get the Victoria's Secret model?
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If you had to bet your life on it, you had to bet your life, or you had to bet all the money that you have made and will make and currently have.
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If you were a betting woman, how would you bet?
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But do you think it's a good, like, if he's perhaps ignoring, and let's say there's large, a lot of men who also think like him, who are in his exact same position.
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You don't think that this is going to lead to perhaps, and say they also want to have kids and get married.
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And they're like, but I'm not settling unless I get that Victoria's Secret model.
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Do you think he's going to ever have kids and get married?
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I'm not asking whether it's your problem or not.
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If he wants that, and he can't get that, then that's his own problem.
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So I said, if I find somebody that I want to make my husband, that makes sense, I will get married.
01:18:33.480
So do you agree that Los Angeles, California, is a place where many, many young, beautiful women go in order to make it in both Hollywood or in order to network?
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It's probably one of the major places on planet Earth for young, beautiful women to go to do that.
01:18:52.460
So you would say that the competition out there is pretty stiff, right?
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I don't look at other women as competition, but if you put it that way, then sure.
01:19:00.620
Well, you don't look at other women as competition?
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Mike, so you've never thought, wow, there's really a lot of beautiful women around me, and there's going to be some type of competing which has to be done if you want to get a ring on your finger by a billionaire.
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No, I don't really look at that scenario in that way.
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I've never walked into a room of bad bitches, and I'm like, damn, there's competition in here.
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I live my life, and I look how I look, and my personality is what my personality is.
01:19:43.920
So I will gravitate towards the people that like me.
01:19:47.660
Yeah, right, but again, you're going to have a ton of competition in that localized area, especially the Los Angeles area, all around there, Santa Barbara.
01:19:59.120
There's tons of rich yuppies all around that area, that's true, but they can get whoever the fuck they want.
01:20:04.340
So why do they want you exactly when they can have any beautiful woman that they want?
01:20:10.160
Well, maybe they don't, that specific guy that you're talking about.
01:20:14.160
Like, I don't know what we're even talking about here, because you're trying to make me feel like I should have competition with other women, but that's just not how I run my life.
01:20:24.300
Well, you run it that way or not doesn't mean that that's not the fact of the matter.
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The fact of the matter is, is that there's many, many women who are in a similar boat to you who would want a man who was handsome and made a lot of money.
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So what makes you exceptional in comparison to these other women?
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Well, it looks wise, you're, again, you're in a place that is known for having the most beautiful women on planet Earth.
01:21:06.480
But do you think that there's a subjective standard which is shared by most people?
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Like, for instance, don't you think that, if you ask most men if they thought that Megan Fox was hot,
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or if they thought, like, a multiple ICU burn victim was hotter than Megan Fox,
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they would probably answer Megan Fox was hotter, right?
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Now, I can concede that there may be some guy out there somewhere who wants a multiple ICU burn victim.
01:21:35.280
But at least within the confines of the subjective standard,
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it seems that there would be some kind of agreement as to what a beautiful woman does look like, right?
01:21:45.580
So if that's the case, then you seem to, at least from the subjective,
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have tons and tons and tons of stiff competition, which is available to compete with you.
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So I'm just asking you, what are the things which would make you stand out from that stiff competition?
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Um, I'm actually really funny, but you guys are, I don't know.
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I've already made you laugh with my delusional answers.
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What are the other things that really make you stand out?
01:22:47.920
So the competition that you would have would be against other potential women who are
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beautiful, at least whatever your subjective standard was for, because you're a 10, right?
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So that would leave an awful lot of other 10s also in competition who are loyal and cook
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I mean, gee, I could see where a millionaire would really, I mean, he would be like, damn.
01:23:15.680
That really, that really, that's the thing that grabbed me.
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Because all these other women don't, aren't loyal and don't cook and clean.
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It's hard for a millionaire to find a pretty woman who cooks, cleans, and is loyal.
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You think that's difficult for a millionaire to find?
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Where they have like the widest selection ever, which would be L.A.
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You guys, you think, raise your hand if you said that you're above an eight.
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Your self-assessment was above an eight or an eight or higher.
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If I ask you in the center chair, the redhead, I'm sorry, I didn't catch your name.
01:24:36.820
Everyone wants to always say my personality, but it's a self-assessment for beauty.
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I, from the attention that I have received throughout my life, I'm judging it on that also.
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But, yeah, I think I've learned to like myself enough to know that, yeah, I'm good looking.
01:25:18.480
I think it would be quite worrying if I thought I was less than that, to be honest, with the life experience that I have.
01:25:24.020
Okay, and then Chair One, what are the things that make you attend from a subjective beauty standpoint?
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High cheekbones, cute little button nose, big doe eyes that look right into your soul.
01:25:55.020
You know, whether Brian likes it or not, I'm getting a boob job next month.
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I don't know if you guys have seen her side profile.
01:26:22.100
I've been getting a lot of nose job allegations, and, like, I'm not a gatekeeper.
01:26:25.120
So, if I did get a nose job, I totally would put you guys on, give you the surgeon, but
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If that was surgery, I would, like, pay you for the answer.
01:26:36.960
No, a lot of people are, like, coming for me on the internet.
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I'm going to, Andrew, did you have more, or I had to step away for a moment there?
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We already got the chat, so we're all good on that.
01:27:04.000
Do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time?
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Do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time at 37?
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I feel like at 27, I still have a bit of a baby face.
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So, as I get a little bit older, I think my face will be a little bit more, like, snatched.
01:27:26.500
That's been my answer consistently over the past two shows also.
01:27:35.000
Um, like I said, I think I'm going to peak in my 30s.
01:27:38.080
So, maybe in my 40s, you know, I'll be, I'll age with grace.
01:27:43.900
But I think when I'm in my 30s, I'm going to be, like, peak adult, like, snatched type of look.
01:27:48.880
So, 37 better than 27, but 47 not better than 27.
01:27:54.640
And then, uh, you're better looking at 27 or 18?
01:28:05.400
You're better looking, will you be better looking in 10 years' time at 32?
01:28:19.880
I don't know about better, but it wouldn't be bad, because my mom is beautiful, and she's,
01:28:24.900
like, much older than that, and she just aged really well, so I hope I age just like her,
01:28:31.400
But do you think you'll be better looking than at 22, at 42?
01:28:34.300
I feel like I'll probably be more youthful at 22, so maybe, yeah.
01:28:46.140
Yes, I think so, because I think I just recently started getting pretty.
01:28:49.360
So, I think I get prettier every year since, like, three years ago.
01:29:01.140
You hit a certain age, I feel like, as a girl, where, like, you're like, okay, wait.
01:29:04.620
I'm starting to get into my more, like, adult looking.
01:29:18.440
I think I would look good for my age, like, at 48.
01:29:22.500
But will you be better looking than you do now at 28?
01:29:25.860
No, I think, I think I'll probably look better right now.
01:29:29.900
And then, compared, 28 going back 10 years to 18, better looking now?
01:29:37.280
You're 19, better looking in 10 years' time at 29?
01:29:48.300
And then don't even get me started on my grandma.
01:29:55.040
But if I'm going to be cocky, then, like, yeah, absolutely, probably.
01:30:01.880
In my family, everyone has consistently gotten more beautiful.
01:30:06.400
Like, my grandma, people stop her on the street to tell her that she's beautiful for her age.
01:30:11.380
So, I think I just got really lucky, genetics-wise.
01:30:17.620
I hope that once I'm, like, settled into the life that I want, I'll be able to afford to look the way I want to look.
01:30:27.040
No, just, like, dressing better and, you know, taking, like, better care of myself and whatnot.
01:30:35.740
So, is it the case that, yes, you'll be better...
01:30:38.380
You think you'll be better looking at 39 than you are now at 19?
01:30:51.740
If your answer is, I think I'll look the same, that can be your answer.
01:30:54.560
I don't think I'll look the same, but I hope that I'll, like, scale the same.
01:31:05.720
Probably not, but I think, like, again, my mom is hot, so it's hard to say.
01:31:14.540
I'm not sure if your mom is single, well, you're not single.
01:31:17.220
If you and your mom were together at, like, a bar, do you think you would...
01:31:24.160
Sure, but do you think you would out-compete your mom?
01:31:29.160
She was a model, and she was a pretty successful model at that.
01:31:41.020
I'm 19, and she's in her, like, late 50s, so, yeah.
01:31:46.680
Will you be better looking in 10 years' time at 45?
01:31:52.460
I feel like women are becoming, like, more in their prime older now.
01:31:58.080
I feel like older women are more, like, they're coming into their beauty.
01:32:02.360
I feel like years ago, 45 would have been pretty old, but now it's like you're still actually quite young.
01:32:17.460
Well, I mean, that's not what the data shows, either.
01:32:21.960
Well, I'll explain what I mean so that you know, right?
01:32:23.840
So, if you look at what men are attracted to, or what men are saying they're attracted to, it doesn't seem to matter what their age is.
01:32:31.280
Like, let's say they're 22 all the way up to 92, right?
01:32:36.900
They all still are the most attracted to the 22, 23-year-old women.
01:32:41.200
It just kind of tracks, and it makes a lot of sense, because youth is associated with fertility.
01:32:45.880
So, it would make sense that men are hardwired to go after the youthful appearance of women, because that's the thing that would make them attractive.
01:32:54.800
From, like, an evolutionary perspective, men would be going towards the thing which would attract them, which should be fertility.
01:33:02.140
That would be the way for us to perpetuate the species.
01:33:06.020
Yeah, I understand what you're saying, but I do also think a lot of women look a lot younger than they actually are.
01:33:11.860
You know, they're looking after themselves a lot better than they were.
01:33:14.400
Until they wake up in the morning, and they don't have all the shit all over their face.
01:33:16.940
They don't have all the stuff tucked in all the different places, and the clothes, and the, you know what I mean?
01:33:23.200
Then, suddenly, it's a different appearance, right?
01:33:26.080
But, what I'm saying is, is that, ultimately, it does appear that men generally seem to be attracted towards youth.
01:33:33.100
It doesn't matter if you're 30 or 45, and you're constantly trying to present yourself as being more youthful than you are.
01:33:39.080
Or, they still seem to want to select for the younger women if they can't.
01:33:46.620
Was the question attractive in terms of the male gaze or the female gaze?
01:33:54.960
Because, I think maybe we were all answering, probably, on, like, obviously, from us.
01:34:03.380
I mean, I would say it's more so, like, when we're thinking of attraction, we're typically talking about, like, most women are heterosexual.
01:34:11.220
So, like, they're not romantically or sexually attracted.
01:34:14.620
They might, women might be able to make, like, looks assessments towards other women.
01:34:19.880
But, I'd say we're talking about from the male perspective.
01:34:23.780
I think that's where our answers, maybe, were skewed.
01:34:26.120
Because, from, like, have you heard of that before?
01:34:31.820
Well, I was just saying, like, from a woman's gaze, right?
01:34:33.620
Like, we look at another woman in a very specific way, and you're like, oh, that's a beautiful woman.
01:34:38.600
And, it's typically someone that is a little bit, like, more mature in their facial features.
01:34:44.360
Like, I was talking about, in my personal opinion, not in, like, what you think men think of you.
01:34:50.540
Because that's not always what's most important.
01:35:06.700
And you're 35, were you better looking 10 years ago at 25?
01:35:12.300
You're 20, better looking in 10 years' time at 30?
01:35:26.800
Do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time at 30?
01:36:08.280
I'm pretty youthful and good looking right now.
01:37:03.540
I'd just be happy to still be alive, to be alive.
01:37:10.880
So, you're 18, better looking, and 10 years' time at 28?
01:37:46.200
But you do think at 48, you will be better looking than you are now?
01:37:55.140
And, Felicity, you've already done it, so we'll just skip.
01:38:00.060
Let me let the chat come through, then I'll ask some clarifying questions.
01:38:23.480
Every single girl here who said, yes, I'll be better looking in 10, 20, 30, 40 years time,
01:38:29.020
Um, if the whatever podcast here, uh, so there's two ways we can approach this.
01:38:35.620
Um, I'm prepared to pay for your plastic surgery to get plastic surgery to age you.
01:38:46.960
We can like do certain plastic surgery that'll age you forward how you're going to look because
01:38:51.300
y'all are saying I'm going to be better looking 10, 20, 30 years down the road.
01:39:00.040
Um, and at crow's feet, all we can add all the bags.
01:39:04.720
And so we'll pay for it and we'll pay you a $5,000 on top of it to do.
01:39:10.700
And because, I mean, you guys are all saying, well, I'll be better looking then, or just
01:39:14.800
Uh, I suppose this perhaps applies more to those of you said I'll be better looking.
01:39:21.860
Um, I think the reason I say I look more pretty then is because I created that because
01:39:29.440
sometimes like he was saying, like look maxing and like different things.
01:39:35.800
It's like the beauty comes from the growth that you had.
01:39:45.500
I mean, I think people with smile lines are like objectively pretty because you can tell
01:39:54.040
People with smile lines can be, that can be like an attractive characteristic.
01:39:58.080
Um, but I'm, the question is who here's willing to actually like step up to the plate.
01:40:05.920
We will, um, and we'll get you the plastic surgery to make you look more attractive.
01:40:11.660
Like who here, does anybody here want to be less attractive?
01:40:20.960
So who's, who's willing to sign a legally binding contract and, and we'll pay for the plastic
01:40:26.200
surgery procedure and we'll give you $5,000 on top of that.
01:40:48.060
Let's say I could, since you guys won't bite on this one, uh, which calls into question
01:40:54.020
the dubiousness of your previous answers, let's say I could wave a magic wand.
01:40:59.420
I wave a magic wand and magically, however y'all said would be your peak, or you said
01:41:05.260
you'd be looking better at 48, 30, what, you know, 30, 40s, whatever.
01:41:09.220
I wave a magic wand and you don't, you don't actually age internally at all.
01:41:13.580
You're in, inside you're the same, but everything external skin, face, whatever that ages, but
01:41:21.040
you're not going to get any health problems sooner than you otherwise would.
01:41:24.700
You're not going to die sooner than you otherwise would, but your outward external, uh, appearance.
01:41:31.060
We're going to age that forward 10, 20, 30 years.
01:41:40.820
So like, let's say we age you forward 10 years, you don't like, you stay at that 10 year forward
01:41:49.220
So it's not like, okay, when you're 80, you're going to look 90 type thing.
01:42:00.080
So, and what you said, cause I feel like I, I want to look more like a woman.
01:42:06.220
Cause I feel like, what do you look more like a man right now?
01:42:09.420
Are you trans or I'm just, no, I look more like a girl rather than like a woman.
01:42:26.060
I've gotten, I've gotten in high school, like pretty recently, like maybe like two weeks
01:42:32.700
Sometimes height can play a factor there, but, uh, how old are you?
01:42:49.000
So if you were to like make my face not look like a baby face and snatch it, then sure.
01:42:56.120
But like in terms of like crow's feet and all that, like I get Botox for that anyways.
01:43:01.760
No, I mean like, I want to look more mature if that makes sense.
01:43:08.900
Cause I would, if I got surgery, I'd obviously get like a nose job and boob job, but I don't
01:43:18.160
Because I feel like it makes people look better.
01:43:21.260
Like one, one surgery can like change your like entire look basically.
01:43:34.120
Do you remember how to do the, like the check the, so we age advanced all of you guys with
01:43:42.220
So, uh, while he's, so do you know where to go?
01:43:55.440
Uh, while he's doing that, Jamie says, chair one said I'm half Asian, half Filipino, which
01:44:01.160
is Asian and half Italian and not one chick on the panel asked any questions about it.
01:44:09.200
Wait, Jamie, what do you, I think it actually tracks.
01:44:12.180
I mean, she's not saying when she says half Asian, half Filipino, what she's saying is the
01:44:32.000
Something, something along those lines gets under, uh, okay.
01:44:47.380
Well, uh, I'll come back and check it out really quick.
01:44:49.920
Andrew, do you have a quick, while I'm just going back there, quick thing on this, Andrew,
01:45:03.220
The wall is this other magic thing, except it actually exists in objective reality, and
01:45:13.660
And what this is, uh, signifying is that, uh, when you hit the wall, essentially you're attractive
01:45:20.820
level, you're past whatever that prime is, and you're not going back to it.
01:45:25.300
Now, as all of you are saying that if we aged you forward, do you think that you would
01:45:31.200
Um, and this isn't to pick on anybody, but there is a woman in the room right now who's
01:45:51.300
And do you honestly think that you're going to look the same that you do now or better?
01:45:57.500
You don't think that that's slightly delusional?
01:46:02.160
Do you think that if the average, like, 25-year-old millionaire had to select between the 35-year-old
01:46:09.540
or the young women who were here from the 35-year-old's perspective, which one do you
01:46:16.800
I think they would probably go for somebody that's younger.
01:46:20.640
Because they want young, like, that is a thing.
01:46:25.560
They've always got, like, a young girl on their arm, and it's, like, more of, like,
01:46:35.980
Like, you can't, you can't be with people you're not attracted to, right?
01:46:40.380
Imagine that people, there has to be attraction for there to be a relationship, right?
01:46:46.420
Like, that's at least, I think, a thing we can all agree on.
01:46:49.960
You've got to be attracted to who the person is you're with.
01:46:53.060
So it's like, if it is the case that they would select for all of the other women who are
01:46:57.560
in the room, what you're saying is that the men would be attracted, more attracted to
01:47:03.820
It's not a dunk or even trying to beat up on you.
01:47:06.920
It's just pointing out the distinction between at 35, 40 years old, you're not going to look
01:47:16.240
And that's an illusion will take to think otherwise.
01:47:19.140
But, like, Kim Kardashian and Megan Fox look so good in their, like, in their 40s.
01:47:26.280
Well, so you have a combination of plastic surgery, personal trainers, huge amounts of
01:47:33.680
Sometimes, though, these actresses get snapshot, they get, you know, a paparazzi takes a quick
01:47:38.700
snap while they're not in their filtered, makeup-induced, you know, Hollywood glam.
01:47:49.040
You look at them and you're like, huh, she just looks like a plain chick after all.
01:47:55.800
But, like, from Haley's perspective, right, she already is in her mid-30s.
01:47:59.720
And I think a lot of us kind of said we would peak attractively in our mid-30s, or at least
01:48:06.760
And you feel like you are more attractive than you were, right, with your glow-up over the
01:48:16.560
I'm not saying in my 40s I'm going to be more attractive than now, but I would say
01:48:25.780
I mean, probably you're going to peak in your mid-20s like almost every other woman does.
01:48:33.760
The reason why the peak for women is in their 20s, it's, again, this is a referent to childbearing.
01:48:43.780
Men would be biologically unnecessarily hardwired to be attracted towards women who are fertile.
01:48:49.220
The older women get, the less fertile they become.
01:49:04.380
Well, women don't have the same problem with men.
01:49:15.480
But the thing is, is that for men, when you're talking about a peak, women aren't tying things
01:49:37.280
Women could be attracted to men based around resources, protection, social status, and
01:49:43.060
These are things that men aren't generally attracted to women over, though.
01:49:45.700
They don't care about what a woman's status is in the hierarchy.
01:49:48.580
If you're a beautiful girl who works at Starbucks, you're just as attractive to the millionaire
01:49:52.480
as if you're a beautiful girl who works in Hollywood.
01:49:55.500
It's not important where you stand in the hierarchical structure of things like it is from a woman's
01:50:07.340
I mean, it makes sense, but also, like, I don't know.
01:50:15.920
Well, we're just selecting for different things, right?
01:50:18.260
It's like a woman in her 20s knows a man in his 40s can still impregnate her.
01:50:23.360
And if he has tons of resources and he's reasonably attractive, that seems like a pretty good
01:50:31.620
But for a man to get together with a woman in her 40s, chances of fertility, very, very,
01:50:39.760
Even by the time he's in the early 30s, they begin to significantly decrease.
01:50:43.080
So this is going by men that obviously want children.
01:50:46.700
They're not going to look at a woman that's 35 and find them that attractive because...
01:50:52.840
How men perceive attractive, what is attractive, is going to be tied to fertility because it's
01:50:59.660
So that's going back to caveman times, that instinct.
01:51:14.180
I mean, I think that women should be looked at as more than like just like an incubator
01:51:20.980
Like I said, I just completely understand that it is.
01:51:26.460
No one is saying that women should be looked at as only incubators.
01:51:31.960
So you can't be with a person you're not attracted.
01:51:33.980
Well, I think men should be looked at as more than wallets.
01:51:36.100
But some of you just want a billionaire, right?
01:51:38.120
And that's more important than personality, apparently.
01:51:40.880
So they should be looked at as more than just wallets and, you know, your system of protection,
01:51:47.880
And you say, I think that you do look at men as not just that, right?
01:51:53.360
So why would I assume that because you found a man more attractive because he made more
01:51:58.700
money, that that means you only see him as that?
01:52:04.740
So you're saying it represents fertility, but they also need to be attracted to other
01:52:11.180
And the reason they are attracted to them is because it makes sense for the survival of
01:52:16.520
the species for men to be attracted, the most attracted to fertile women.
01:52:21.140
You want men in the species to be fighting over the most fertile women.
01:52:25.700
You want them to be warring and competing and doing all the shit that they need to do in
01:52:33.900
The most fertile women are going to be younger.
01:52:39.280
And so, of course, the attraction level is going to be the highest.
01:52:41.800
There's like, from just a survival of the human race perspective, that's necessary, right?
01:52:50.720
Let's say we switched it and all the men became only attracted to 60-year-old women, right?
01:52:55.640
They don't want nothing to do with young, fertile women anymore.
01:52:59.880
That would be a terrible survival strategy for our species, right?
01:53:03.900
That would be like a terrible, but the species would go extinct, right?
01:53:09.120
So, I'm just asking for a clarification in terms of like physical attributes of a woman,
01:53:13.640
like what makes them more attractive specifically?
01:53:23.340
If you walk into a bar and you're like looking and gazing across all of the women in the bar.
01:53:27.500
Characteristics of preferences may vary from man to man, right?
01:53:33.500
For what they distinctly find attractive in individual women, perhaps some like bigger eyes,
01:53:38.620
some like smaller eyes, some like bigger breasts, some like smaller breasts.
01:53:43.160
But there's going to be some things which are universals.
01:53:45.440
One thing that's going to be universal is that generally the younger the woman is,
01:53:49.980
you know, obviously within reason, women we're talking about here, the younger they are generally,
01:53:54.920
the more attractive they appear to the opposite sex, at least from the man's perspective.
01:54:01.380
So if, and this is just a theoretical, so if in 10 years I'm saying I peak because I don't have as much of a baby face,
01:54:07.540
but I still have the same build, I'm still pretty like tiny, I have a youthful looking body still.
01:54:18.660
Because if men can select, if the type of man you want is the type of man who can select for the younger version of you,
01:54:26.360
he will because he'll be instinctually more attracted to that.
01:54:29.880
Now this is not always the case and it's not going to be the case with every man,
01:54:33.600
but it'll be generally the case and the stats seem to bear this out.
01:54:42.540
Obviously it's not always going to be the case, but.
01:54:47.160
Yeah, no, no, I totally understand what you're saying.
01:54:56.840
Women see themselves as most attractive at 25 to 45 when they find men most appealing,
01:55:05.640
Male ancestors bred at 25 to 45, females at 18 to 30.
01:55:11.780
This also explains why they think men liking 18 to 24 is gross.
01:55:22.520
That's a, it's a, it's a matter of competition.
01:55:24.960
So most of the time when I reduce down, when I'm arguing with women over age gaps,
01:55:31.820
That's what that many women do over 45 year old men who are dating 20 year old women.
01:55:39.540
But when you reduce it down, they essentially just say, well, it just gives them the ick,
01:55:44.380
Well, the thing is, is like they have to compete, have to compete against the fact that 45 year
01:55:49.620
old men can get women who are in there, not that many, but at least the men that they would select
01:55:56.200
for when they're in their forties, uh, who have kind of the high status and a lot of money
01:56:00.660
can oftentimes get younger women and are more attracted to them.
01:56:04.680
And I think that makes women very jealous, makes them very upset.
01:56:10.220
So they call them creeps and predators and this and that, but I think it's just socially
01:56:14.460
shame men into not being attracted to women who are between 18 and 30, even though
01:56:19.480
in order for the human species to perpetuate itself, they kind of need to.
01:56:26.000
It seems like in terms of men's preferences, there's a lot of, uh, bullying and shaming.
01:56:31.540
Uh, like if a girl wants an older guy, it's a preference.
01:56:35.500
Guy wants a younger woman, creepy, uh, icky, predatory, manipulative, exploitative.
01:56:53.140
Because they want to have sex with them and have babies with them.
01:57:03.800
The motivation of if men were attracted again to 60 year olds, right?
01:57:13.140
So, of course, yes, 40, 45, 50 year old men would love if they're single to have a 22,
01:57:26.900
It's totally within the confines of reason from my perspective.
01:57:29.500
So, the only thing I can think of is like, there's, there must be some significant competition
01:57:33.940
there that women who are in those age brackets, they, they kind of get upset.
01:57:37.820
So, they just say, well, they're predators and they're this and that.
01:57:40.540
And it's like, well, they just, they want, they want to reproduce, right?
01:57:49.760
And I don't know, when it comes to the preferences, it's like, okay, a girl doesn't want to date
01:57:56.920
Oh, shallow, jerk, asshole, judgmental, body shaming.
01:58:13.920
And just kind of interesting whenever men have any sort of preferences when it comes
01:58:19.000
In fact, I'm going to take it further, Brian, and say, I think that men probably have a duty.
01:58:24.140
They probably actually have a duty to marry women when women are in their 20s for the
01:58:30.980
You're going to have the healthiest children, the most chance for, for them to be able to
01:58:37.380
And ultimately, it's probably their best mating strategy ultimately to do this.
01:58:43.000
So, I mean, for humanity to thrive, we need to have human beings.
01:58:48.240
So, I think I would say that there's actually a moral imperative maybe for men to select
01:58:58.240
If anybody's watching who does those in the Discord, send them through.
01:59:08.780
There was a delay on getting that because we were already behind.
01:59:11.500
So, the story is up if you want to use that as the source for the age advancement for that
01:59:20.040
And then we'll do gender swaps too if you guys can.
01:59:22.160
And guys, really quick, just a reminder, REED is 100, TTS is 200 if you want to get it.
01:59:33.440
How tall are you and what's the minimum height of a man that you would date?
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I put 6'2 because I don't want my kids to be short.
01:59:54.880
Like, the guy you marry has to take the L on that one.
01:59:57.400
No, I think, I feel like the tall gene is dominant.
02:00:02.120
I feel like a lot of people have like short moms and their dad is tall.
02:00:07.180
It's not something that can necessarily be like dominant.
02:00:17.000
So, yeah, you dated him, but probably sounds like it wasn't ideal.
02:00:21.600
So, the minimum height though of a man you would date, you said 6'2.
02:00:28.760
So, you're 5' and the minimum height of a guy is 6'2.
02:00:41.400
I want someone at least an inch taller than me.
02:00:44.840
Because, excuse me, as a tall woman though, people have been like, she's cute, but she's
02:00:53.180
And so, I feel like I try to go easy on the whole height thing.
02:00:56.660
If you have a beautiful soul and a beautiful face, then like, I don't know.
02:01:02.780
You've been, you're 5'9 and guys have turned you down?
02:01:07.060
I'm 5'8 and men have turned you down because of your height?
02:01:10.080
In high school, you know, like the immature insecurity thing, like, oh my God, she's
02:01:16.920
I am 5'8 and I would say 6' because then I can wear-
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Because then I could wear heels and not look like an avatar in comparison to them.
02:01:48.700
What do you think, you know, you were saying, oh, well, it's really, I think you said it
02:01:52.460
was unfortunate that men have this preference that they want to date younger women, that
02:01:58.720
Do you think it's unfortunate that, for example, she's 5' and the minimum height of a guy she
02:02:04.500
would date is 6'2 and we would be prepared to make arguments that there's a biological
02:02:10.580
and evolutionary basis for why women are attracted to tall men.
02:02:15.320
But do you think it's unfortunate that she has this particular preference?
02:02:28.720
Do you object to her being 5' and her minimum height for a guy that she would date
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is 6'2, which is, I think, I think 6'3, you get into the one percentile?
02:02:44.240
Like, you guys keep bringing up, like, our instincts?
02:02:51.100
I mean, I'm not talking about, like, from a philosophical, just, do you object to it?
02:02:58.260
I think that we're all allowed to have our own finances.
02:02:59.580
So, like, I'm 35, if I want to date, like, a 20-year-old, you're cool with it?
02:03:06.340
I mean, you have to remember, I already said, like, I'm fine with HFs.
02:03:12.100
But the question, the guy who you forgot about, who you just, it's out of your memory, but
02:03:19.400
you did date him for eight months, and that was your closest you've ever been to a relationship
02:03:35.360
So, I feel like all over social media, when I was, like, younger, I always saw people,
02:03:39.380
like, oh, six-foot guys, six-foot guys, but that's in the perspective of, like, you know,
02:03:43.640
a taller girl, but since I was, like, fed that information, like, oh, six-foot guys
02:03:48.800
are, like, the hottest, like, so I had that mindset, and then, like, people always, like,
02:03:53.800
post, like, Maddie and Nathan, or is his name Nathan from Euphoria?
02:03:58.360
Yeah, like, yeah, they always, like, post that, like, pictures of that.
02:04:08.180
Well, they always, like, post them together, and, like, they have a huge height difference,
02:04:11.140
and I feel like, as a short person, like, I was, like, oh, I love that.
02:04:16.440
So, then I was, like, okay, this is normal to have these, like...
02:04:20.380
But then, like, I mean, I was with, like, short people, so...
02:04:26.840
Tell us about your eight-month, uh, not relationship, I guess.
02:04:33.560
Uh, if you had to categorize this ethereal sort of, kind of, but not really, but kind of relationship,
02:04:41.780
but not really hookup, sneaky link, however you want to...
02:04:46.680
I want to say that I was dating him, but he was dating other girls, too, and he let me know that, but...
02:04:54.620
And that's why I don't say that he's my boyfriend, because, like, he was obviously with other people.
02:04:59.400
And, I guess, second to him, what's the longest period of time you were talking to another guy?
02:05:11.520
Uh, yeah, probably, like, five months is probably the second longest.
02:05:15.900
And have you, uh, wanted a relationship, or...?
02:05:20.360
I think it depends on the person, because I think I want it with them, and then, like,
02:05:24.360
that's why I stay with them for that long, like, in a talking stage.
02:05:27.980
Um, but then I find out things about them, I'm like, you know, I'm glad I didn't make it official with them.
02:05:34.920
So, you've never said to anybody, or considered anybody, a boyfriend?
02:05:48.020
Do you say I love you when you're just eating them?
02:05:55.320
You could have told a guy you loved him, and...
02:06:02.580
Probably not, like, the definition of, like, real love, but I thought I was in love with them,
02:06:07.780
because I've, like, never been that far, so I probably, like, don't know.
02:06:11.920
You, uh, do you think you're gonna, like, start soon, or...?
02:06:16.880
Or, I mean, just pursue a relationship, long-term relationship?
02:06:25.720
I think just, like, making money, and, like, living life.
02:06:37.700
No, I mean, I'm actually, I've been sober for, since Labor Day, but...
02:06:47.820
So, before that, what was, you were, like, on heroin, or what were you doing?
02:06:59.800
But I, like, I want to quit vaping, so I stopped doing it.
02:07:04.940
That's quite a hard thing to give up, to be fair.
02:07:07.420
Yeah, and then you said you were focusing on money, or what did you say?
02:07:13.020
Like, I'm not really, like, thinking about a man.
02:07:16.440
Like, I'm just, like, going to work, going to bed.
02:07:29.080
No, I just, like, I don't prioritize that, you know?
02:07:36.500
So that's not a thing for you, because obviously celibacy...
02:07:39.640
I think I'm not missing out, because I feel like most of the men I've been with, it wasn't,
02:07:51.260
With, like, the items on the market these days, it's insane.
02:07:55.280
Like, I used to sell this one that would, like, go up and down and vibrate on the clitoris
02:08:00.720
And, like, that's better than most straight men.
02:08:06.760
There's a guaranteed orgasm in that, and I feel like I'm getting noise.
02:08:18.620
Sure, sex is important in a relationship, but I think that there's other components of
02:08:27.420
I was adding on to the celibacy thing, not the relationship thing.
02:08:31.220
So, you're saying you never climaxed with a guy?
02:08:44.020
Wait, so you're saying she, like, brought up sex toys and shit, so you're just, like,
02:09:00.220
Like, I mean, granted, there are women who can make themselves climax, and then the guys
02:09:05.600
But, like, if you can't make yourself climax in the comfort...
02:09:12.860
I feel like I'm not really in tune with my sexuality.
02:09:29.300
That's why, like, I don't really care about, like, dating men.
02:09:54.940
Like, you never tried to double-click your mouse?
02:09:59.340
Like, I feel like I have tried, but then, like, I get bored, and I'm like, okay.
02:10:05.380
But also, I only have my hands, you know what I mean?
02:10:19.540
Well, it depends on how you use them, you know?
02:10:46.000
I think if you learned to do it yourself, that would be a very good start.
02:10:50.280
I feel like I just, like, I haven't had much experience, if that makes sense, so I don't
02:10:57.060
It took me years to actually climax with a partner.
02:11:04.540
The guy who it took you years with, did he just...
02:11:09.440
I had sex with a lot of men that never made me...
02:11:11.740
The first time you came was like a gangbang or something?
02:11:23.420
But, like, did he just get it, or did you have to show him?
02:11:27.840
It just wasn't getting to all the right places, I guess.
02:11:37.460
I think if you'll agree with this, the women here will agree that a lot of people can't
02:11:58.900
Sometimes they do it on the side of your thigh.
02:12:02.280
It's a lot easier for a guy to put it that way.
02:12:03.740
Maybe you can leave everybody on that after on how you do it, and we'll give you input
02:12:09.660
You need to be comfortable with the person, too.
02:12:12.760
I think that's what I had to repeat to people is, like, you're not going to come unless you're
02:12:40.240
When you finally come, you're going to spontaneously combust.
02:12:44.560
You're just going to, like, turn into a ball of flames because it will just be building
02:12:50.820
And then you're going to be like, wow, I never want this to stop.
02:12:57.220
Girl, you better hope you're more attractive at 30 so you can just...
02:13:03.500
I don't know what we were talking about before then.
02:13:26.240
We're going to get through the rest of the questionnaire then.
02:13:33.900
Selena, you said it's difficult in terms of dating.
02:13:36.660
Any dating frustrations to find someone accepting of your career and social media presence?
02:13:44.160
Well, also in terms of the nightlife, a lot of guys, it's kind of in a sense like, oh, do
02:13:49.440
you want your girlfriend to go alone to the club?
02:13:51.460
Well, it's like, oh, if you work at a nightclub, then what?
02:13:53.620
So, I feel like there's definitely been, like, some, I guess, like, like, in a way we don't
02:14:00.820
really agree in certain things, but, like, I don't, I know, like, most bottle girls or
02:14:06.600
Like, we don't want nobody's man, you know, we're just there to literally work.
02:14:12.260
And it's like, oh, like, some girls will always be, like, in the section, like, staring
02:14:17.680
It's your job, really, isn't it, to be kind, which can also be misinterpreted as flirting.
02:14:32.480
But it's just because you're behind a bar and it's alcohol and there's guys, like, yeah,
02:14:39.700
Do you guys think, I want to bring it back just briefly to the whole minimum income thing.
02:14:59.880
I mean, look, guys who are millionaires or billionaires, do you think being involved in
02:15:06.460
sex work and having OnlyFans and, like, having photos and videos of you fucking other men
02:15:11.140
on the internet, do you think that this tends to, like, increase your demands when it comes
02:15:25.300
It has an impact on the men who have a problem with it, but there is also a lot of men who
02:15:29.200
Your proxy would have an impact on you because if, like, a cohort of men don't want to date
02:15:33.740
you because there's photos and videos of you fucking men on the internet, like, most
02:15:39.000
men are not going to be comfortable with their wife having that sort of content on the internet
02:15:43.820
and your kids are also not going to appreciate nude photos of you, especially, like, pornographic
02:15:55.960
So, is it going to present dating difficulties?
02:15:59.640
It could, but it doesn't, for me personally, I'm not looking to date anybody that has an
02:16:04.800
issue with sex work, clearly, because I'm in sex work.
02:16:11.440
Which is going to reduce your pool from all, all, all, basically.
02:16:14.740
I think most billionaires, they don't want to deal with a girl who's in sex, has a past
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of sex work or is currently involved in sex work.
02:16:29.340
You think there's just, like, how many billionaires are in the United States?
02:16:41.700
How many of them already have, like, a relationship?
02:16:43.460
How many of them are you going to even be attracted to?
02:16:45.340
And then it's, like, okay, they can date a woman.
02:16:52.580
Because I feel like the billionaires that I know, they kind of go for, like, sugar babies
02:17:00.420
The billionaires that you know, which billionaire do you know?
02:17:10.500
I can tell you later, but I'm not going to say.
02:17:20.040
You've had a, just to be clear, you've had a sit-down, one-on-one conversation with a
02:17:25.320
billionaire, and he revealed, BTW, I'd rather date a porn star who has videos and photos
02:17:32.320
of her getting cream-pied and fucking other dudes than, like, a normal girl who's attractive.
02:17:40.080
Well, I feel like a lot of people do, like, porn stars, too.
02:17:47.400
They might want to fuck them, but they ain't wifeing them.
02:17:50.500
I have worked on the super yachts for many years with billionaires as my, you know, as
02:17:59.420
And I have seen countless amounts of women come on board that are their girlfriends, that
02:18:05.860
are OnlyFans girls, that have worked in the porn industry.
02:18:10.420
So they do absolutely go for those kind of women.
02:18:18.500
Like, there's a lot of, there's a lot of billionaires that wouldn't, there's a lot of
02:18:21.880
How many of these billionaires walking in and putting a ring on the former?
02:18:38.280
Billionaires have such high notoriety that you can actually look up the list of the billionaires
02:18:46.040
You can get their names, you can get their wife, everything.
02:18:50.920
There's not that many eligible billionaire bachelors, for one, right?
02:18:58.200
But of those that I'm seeing who are married, I'm actually not seeing any who are married
02:19:04.620
So, are you saying a prostitute would mean that you're on OnlyFans?
02:19:10.200
Well, yeah, even by your standard, if you're doing BG content...
02:19:25.220
Yeah, I'm not going to get bogged down on the semantics.
02:19:31.040
But the point is, I think most reasonable men also would.
02:19:35.000
The thing is, there's not many that I can find.
02:19:44.180
It's like you're speaking, and in the most respectful way possible, again, I have to clarify,
02:19:47.860
right, you're speaking on a topic to a bunch of women who actually, like, are in this industry
02:20:00.560
Prove me wrong right now and name a single billionaire that you know.
02:20:06.920
The thing is, is like, as you say, you're speaking to people who have knowledge on this
02:20:11.720
that you don't have, and it's like, okay, well, then demonstrate that.
02:20:23.900
You name the billionaire that you know, but you won't.
02:20:27.180
What that's been with someone that's on OnlyFans?
02:20:34.300
Andrew already said that, yeah, they'll, like, they'll be on the yacht, but are they
02:20:40.900
This is going to be the mother of my children, and I'm going to wife her?
02:20:46.880
Yeah, I mean, I can't fully disagree with that, because I feel like ever since I started
02:20:51.460
OF, I definitely noticed, like, like I said, it kind of depends per situation, but like
02:20:56.060
a worse crowd of men, that's kind of been, like, either in my DMs or, I mean, obviously,
02:21:04.520
It really depends, but a lot of the men are not, like, high quality, and I get why, like,
02:21:10.200
I get why, but I'm just saying, so I did notice that.
02:21:14.880
I've talked with enough sex workers now, and it doesn't matter where they're from, right?
02:21:19.880
Like, what part of the world, at least in the Western world, right?
02:21:23.460
And I usually talk to, like, third world sex workers, because they're actually doing that
02:21:29.700
I mean, prostitution used to be considered, like, a thing that women did out of desperation.
02:21:35.000
Now it's become kind of grandiose in society as a form of social status, bizarrely enough.
02:21:41.500
But any of them that I talk to in the West seem to be at least somewhat realistic about
02:21:46.300
the fact that the kind of quality or value of men who would be moving towards interest
02:21:54.420
Not to say that there's no valuable men who wouldn't, you know, wife up a former prostitute
02:22:11.220
But they seem to be realistic about it when I talk to them.
02:22:19.080
All right, so we're going to have to wait for the age component.
02:22:22.780
If anybody in the Discord can post the age in the research tab, we'd appreciate it.
02:22:49.080
If he was cool, I mean, like, that's not a bad-looking dude.
02:23:05.280
Is that what your brother, do you have a brother?
02:23:07.660
He doesn't look like me entirely, but does he have dark hair and a beard?
02:23:15.200
He does still have this little snatching eyes, though.
02:23:19.780
Can I ask, also in a respectful way, what was that trying to prove?
02:23:43.540
I mean, we should have kept the eyes blue, but I mean, otherwise, yeah, that's.
02:25:02.100
And I'd have to like grab the security guard to tell him that like I'm probably in danger.
02:25:18.660
I said initially I was like I don't think I'm going to be attracted to the male version of me.
02:25:22.740
I don't find people who look like me attractive to me.
02:25:32.260
I just don't like them to have like softer features I guess.
02:25:40.740
I don't know if the first picture even looks like you.
02:25:46.300
To be honest I feel like it's also a bad picture.
02:26:03.960
I was a bit worried about this but that's quite shaggable.
02:26:18.360
I would absolutely have sex with myself as a man.
02:26:55.740
But it's kind of like asking would you shag your brother.
02:26:59.680
Because they look the same but it's just a bit weird.
02:27:19.820
But I don't think that's like an ugly dude by any means.
02:28:03.680
But I think if he got a different hairstyle he'd be very striking.
02:28:21.300
You made me look like a overly attached girlfriend.
02:28:48.360
The one on the right looks like she's going to abort your children.
02:28:54.660
I wouldn't kick any of them out of bed personally.
02:29:33.800
If you're enjoying the stream, like the video, read a hundred TTS 200.
02:30:18.860
The six foot two millionaires are just, they're all taken.
02:30:24.980
So maybe you can lower your standards a little bit.
02:30:47.380
What if he's five, seven, but he can make you just like, you know.
02:31:02.020
I feel like no one, not many people are shorter than me.
02:31:06.680
There's men who are shorter than you out there.
02:31:46.500
Andrew, do you think all the good men are taken or are women, are their standards too high, Andrew?
02:31:54.060
I mean, we're trying to make sure that all the good men get taken.
02:32:02.920
I think that there's plenty of what you guys would perceive as being good men, but you're not attracted to them.
02:32:11.160
There's a small pool, smaller pool of men that women are attracted to.
02:32:17.120
If you can't get past that attractive barrier, you can't get past the attraction barrier, then that's what's going to be a lot of lonely women.
02:32:24.120
It's 55% of women slated to be single in 10 years.
02:32:31.000
You know, like it's just, it's going to be a world full of cat ladies.
02:32:36.800
The whole Western world is going to be a world full of cat ladies.
02:32:40.420
So it's because of, and here's what, here's what ruined it.
02:32:47.340
So it used to be that women only had the options, which were in the localized area they were in, right?
02:32:53.440
It's not like travel, but before the automobile was something which was simple.
02:32:57.500
So you, you grew up in kind of these rural communities or even inside of cities, there was only X amount of men who were available.
02:33:04.840
And because of monogamy, basically every man was going to end up with a woman.
02:33:11.840
And so women can create a much wider net for selection.
02:33:15.480
And as it turns out, they all tend to only want to select on the same guys, interestingly enough.
02:33:21.460
And, uh, when they don't get those guys, they tend not to settle until they're in their thirties or forties when men want them the least.
02:33:29.380
So, uh, so that's why women are slated to be single at 55%, 55% from the last, the last half that I saw is wild.
02:33:45.400
Diddy Watt champagne donated $1,000 pop champagne.
02:34:10.180
I don't know what that means, but thank you for the tip.
02:34:23.520
By 2030, which is just a few short years, it'll be 45%.
02:34:28.120
And then in another 10 years, it's slated to be as high as 60%.
02:34:36.180
Well, uh, he, he, uh, champagne guy, he wants, uh, thank you, man, appreciate it.
02:35:00.300
Each panelist, say which other panelist is the most beautiful and which is the least beautiful.
02:35:09.340
Personally, for me, I don't think beautiful, I think when I say someone is beautiful, I'm
02:35:19.840
So, um, yeah, I don't feel like I want to, like, say that about other people because I
02:35:30.600
Do you think you're the most beautiful girl at the table?
02:35:34.920
You know, I hope everyone thinks that they're the most beautiful girl at the table.
02:35:43.200
Like, if you don't love yourself and you don't think.
02:35:55.280
Um, I think I'm beautiful, objectively, subjectively, inside, outside.
02:36:04.580
I just, I just, I'm sure you all are beautiful inside and you seem really nice.
02:36:10.880
But I'm not going to answer that in the way that you're looking for, because I think that's
02:36:16.780
I don't think I really even could, because I don't know them.
02:36:22.340
It's not because I think that anyone here is subjectively unattractive, but because that's
02:36:38.520
Champagne guy, I think, uh, P. Diddy, what the fuck is that?
02:36:48.240
Um, by the way, uh, Blake just, well, he's, oh, he's back.
02:36:51.740
I was going to say, if he ever is gone, you can just, like, minimize it just temporarily.
02:36:55.480
Uh, so wait, uh, I think we have some people who, so, wait, do you want champagne?
02:37:10.400
Um, do any of the panelists want to say who the most beautiful woman at the table is?
02:37:18.840
I want to say, um, Andrew, because the picture that was up, I think he was gorgeous.
02:37:39.860
Because you're the ugliest fucking man I ever saw.
02:37:43.800
I ever saw in my life, but it just ain't, you know.
02:37:54.020
So, I mean, while Brian's pouring that out, perhaps we could run a social experiment.
02:38:04.240
So, all the women have to look at the camera, right?
02:38:11.320
So, we need to see that everybody's eyes are closed.
02:38:41.100
Raise your hand if you're the most beautiful woman at the table.
02:39:04.460
So, in this case, we'll go to the center chair.
02:39:11.000
Which woman or woman do you think raised their hands?
02:39:50.480
If you think any other woman raised her hand, just take a guess.
02:40:07.800
Let's go over to the gal sitting next to Brian.
02:40:40.740
So the thing is, is like, this is the actual way that we can assess what you guys actually
02:40:46.920
Because the only time that we can ever assess when you're being honest is when you play a
02:40:54.360
Because maybe, perhaps, you actually think that person is really attractive and should
02:41:00.020
But if we ask for a self-assessment, we get a completely and wildly different answer.
02:41:10.540
But it just appears that women are more honest about what their look assessment is when they
02:41:14.720
think that they're just kind of playing a game.
02:41:17.080
And you ask them, which ones do you think raised their hands?
02:41:29.660
Well, I mean, you're going to have to watch this back.
02:41:56.180
We have Deja, Brian, the guy who gave $1,000, is why the dating world sucks and chair one
02:42:09.920
I mean, genuinely, if you feel that way, then that's okay.
02:42:14.840
If you donated $100 to say that, so, like, I think you're more bothered than me, personally.
02:42:21.300
Well, I know this guy, and he's, he's like a crypt, he got a crypto pump.
02:42:27.540
Fucking, this guy, he's like multi, multi-million.
02:42:37.360
So, he's like, he, he can, he can go all night with you, is what I'm trying to say.
02:42:42.580
Like, you're, you're, you're trying to, you're trying to insult the guy, like, oh, my God,
02:42:47.520
I wasn't, um, no, so, and more so, you go out of your way to tip, to say that.
02:42:54.860
I mean, like, if that was chump change to you, then spend a thousand right now, and tell
02:43:15.340
Would you rather cross paths with a man or a bear in the forest?
02:43:20.340
I said a man, because I feel like, you know, like, I mean, of course, even physical wise,
02:43:25.540
a man is, like, obviously, like, stronger normally than a woman.
02:43:29.200
But, like, with a bear, like, I feel like I have no chance.
02:43:32.920
I feel like a bear, because if you are in the forest and you see a man there, I feel like
02:43:36.900
that's creepier, because, like, you don't know, like, who they are.
02:43:53.640
And are we talking about, like, a malicious man?
02:43:57.120
It's totally random, so it could be, like, you know, Jake.
02:44:00.440
I run into random men in the forest all the time.
02:44:09.820
Oh, I feel like it depends, but probably a man.
02:44:23.560
Why do you pick bear, and why don't you pick man?
02:44:26.560
Personally, like, this isn't even a troll answer.
02:44:30.780
So, I think seeing a bear in nature, I never have before, personally.
02:44:34.900
And I think it's very common to run into a man if you're on a hike.
02:44:41.240
Yeah, I've always wanted to see a bear in person in the forest.
02:44:43.880
And I feel like if you saw a man in the forest, like, and you're alone, I feel like that's...
02:44:49.580
I feel like I'd be more scared, if that makes sense.
02:45:05.620
If you start to learn that bear, it's going to fuck you up most of the time.
02:45:11.320
There's 99% of encounters on hiking trails with men, random men that you find.
02:45:38.240
You never know what, like, a man's intentions are.
02:45:41.320
So, is there a component there for your answer and for your guys' answer?
02:45:45.700
Like, okay, well, yeah, the bear could kill me, the man could kill me, but the man could
02:45:56.840
I wasn't thinking that, but I feel like I have, like, I could bring bear spray with me.
02:46:06.260
Like, the concern is, like, oh, the guy could do what?
02:46:09.620
Um, because, like, if you're out in, like, the middle of nowhere, like, hiking by yourself,
02:46:14.960
or, like, yeah, by yourself, and then, like, randomly a guy just appears.
02:46:22.540
So, you're, like, scared of, like, what the guy could do?
02:46:28.720
I mean, I don't know if you were taller, if that would really change anything, but, um,
02:46:33.000
Well, don't worry, everybody's tiny relative to a bear.
02:46:35.440
I feel like it would be more likely to be attacked by a bear than it would a random man.
02:46:42.020
And also, women can be just as dangerous as men, if not more sometimes.
02:46:52.440
I feel like bears are more likely to go for you.
02:46:56.460
So, Des, going to you, though, um, so the concern is, like, the guy could essay you, basically.
02:47:06.440
Uh, you acknowledge, though, the bear could kill you.
02:47:10.080
Yeah, but there's, like, bear protection, and, like, you can bring a knife.
02:47:14.480
You could also bring a knife against a man, and I think the knife would be more effective
02:47:19.620
Like, bears have, like, pelt, and their skin's thicker, they have the fur.
02:47:24.160
Um, well, actually, and also, you know, bullets do bounce off of bear skulls, not kidding.
02:47:31.540
They do, they do, they do, on, on human skulls, too, but not as much as bear skulls.
02:47:36.920
Yo, Josh, thank you for the gifted 20, or memberships, really appreciate it, appreciate
02:47:49.020
So what percentage of men do you think would, like, victimize you in some sort of way?
02:48:03.280
Wait, can you just get a little closer than mine, because you're a little soft-spoken.
02:48:08.360
Okay, bear, yes, could kill me, giant, wild animal, but men more dangerous because X, Y,
02:48:17.840
They could, uh, assault you in that sort of way.
02:48:23.020
So what, so the question is, essentially, if we were to spawn in, like, a random man,
02:48:28.260
random bear, what percentage of, say, the United States population of adult men do you
02:49:00.060
You're, I need you to be logically consistent here.
02:49:05.960
One of your brothers is a grapist, or would be a grapist.
02:49:22.040
And then grandparents, cousins, et cetera, et cetera.
02:49:24.840
Just to be clear, are you prepared to say that, like, 50% of your male relatives, whether,
02:49:29.240
you know, parent, grandparent, whatever, cousins, they are potential grapists?
02:49:35.460
You're going to say that about your own family?
02:49:40.800
So you'd go to, like, the family cookout and be like, man, half of these men are, like,
02:49:47.800
I'm not really, like, uh, I don't really talk to, like, half of my family.
02:49:54.940
You're going to have to throw under the bus here.
02:49:56.700
Which one do you think is more likely to be a grapist?
02:49:58.520
Well, according to your own statistics, one of them would be.
02:50:13.880
But you do think, like, secretly, like, one of your brothers, like, has these, uh, malicious
02:50:20.840
thoughts or desires or intentions to essay women.
02:50:28.440
Well, how would you, then how do you know that 50% of men in the United States would
02:50:44.660
But how did you come to the 50% of men are grapists or potential grapists?
02:50:50.600
Because I've, like, ran into a lot of men that have.
02:50:53.900
So 50% of the men that you've just ran into, you've, like, you've done an analysis and
02:51:00.420
you're, like, okay, 50% of men are potential grapists.
02:51:06.800
So, like, all the men that, like, you went to high school with, like, your friend group,
02:51:10.020
your social circle, your teachers, um, your family, we already talked about that.
02:51:14.500
And then just, like, the random men that you see walking down the street, like, 50% of
02:51:19.460
them, like, in your mind, you're, like, 50% chance this guy's a grapist?
02:51:26.680
Wouldn't that be an entailment of your position?
02:51:30.280
Have 50% of the men, like, attempted to grap you?
02:51:47.680
But 50% of the men that you've encountered have attempted to grap you?
02:51:57.600
Okay, what percentage of the men that you've encountered have attempted this crime?
02:52:04.940
One in four men that you've encountered have attempted to essay you?
02:52:12.420
Like, one in four men that you just walk past, they, like, try, really?
02:52:17.000
Does that track for any of the other girls here?
02:52:18.860
No, I think where she's coming from, maybe, and I could be, maybe, I'm just trying to interpret
02:52:23.420
what you were saying of, like, if you were in the forest, right, and since you have already
02:52:26.980
been a victim of essay, and that's, like, a trauma for you, maybe if you were alone by
02:52:34.380
yourself as a woman, right, that's a, like, oh, there's a 50-50 shot, right, right then
02:52:38.480
in there in your mind with a stranger of, like, something could happen, this could either
02:52:46.280
Because I get that as a woman in general, it comes from a place of trauma.
02:52:52.600
Sure, so, but does that track, that one in four men that you guys have encountered, have
02:52:57.420
attempted to, like, essay, actually attempted to essay?
02:53:00.080
For me, no, specifically, but I'm just saying, I'm trying to, like, kind of help her explain
02:53:04.060
maybe what, was that kind of what you were saying?
02:53:06.320
Like, there's a 50-50 shot if you're in the forest, maybe, and you're like, okay, it's
02:53:12.200
It's a 50-50 shot if something bad happens or if nothing happens.
02:53:15.700
So you think her position is justified because she has, like, past trauma from, like, previous
02:53:20.440
And her mind's short, yeah, if she has previous trauma.
02:53:22.900
Yeah, but, like, what if, like, this sort of, like, rhetoric and narratives are, like,
02:53:26.820
perpetuated to other women and then, like, by proxy about other men?
02:53:31.840
So, basically, you have, like, huge demographics of women who think men are, like, terrible
02:53:39.420
Do you think that this is, like, overall a good thing for society, for women to view men
02:53:48.060
Because I don't see how what she was saying for her own personal standpoint, if she was
02:53:52.820
in a forest alone of her own, like, what's a 50, it's a 50-50 shot if something bad were
02:53:58.620
to happen, necessarily correlates to, like, society.
02:54:04.520
This is a really neat way to reframe this, but that's not actually what happened.
02:54:10.920
Brian specifically asked, so one in four men that you've encountered have tried to do this?
02:54:18.840
Nothing about a forest or being trapped in a forest or nothing like that.
02:54:22.040
Well, that's where it stemmed from when she said 50%.
02:54:29.720
Like, so you actually believe that one in four men would do this.
02:54:34.380
Well, I already said that I didn't personally, because, right, that's not my experience.
02:54:37.860
I understand I'm not putting her position on you.
02:54:42.520
But what I am saying is that that was actually her position.
02:54:46.700
So the thing is, is like, and here's the other thing.
02:54:51.240
For those of you who picked bear, raise your hand real quick.
02:54:55.920
So we'll start with you on the right, Chair One.
02:54:58.260
If you were running away from a bear that you spawned into in the forest and you came
02:55:03.480
across a random man, would you yell at him for help?
02:55:07.640
So my answer wasn't specifically around the argument that you're looking for.
02:55:12.960
So I don't really think that my answer per se is relevant here.
02:55:24.340
So it asks, if you were in the forest, what would you rather see, a man or a bear?
02:55:29.320
I'm saying, if I'm by myself already, I'd rather see a bear because I like nature.
02:55:33.200
Which would you rather be trapped in a forest with, a man or a bear?
02:55:48.180
You spawned into a forest with a man or a bear?
02:55:52.340
It says, would you rather cross paths with a man or a bear in the forest?
02:56:03.000
But still, I actually conceded the point and said, maybe I'm wrong on the trap.
02:56:09.080
So I'm fine making a concession about something.
02:56:14.680
Well, I'm just stating facts because that wasn't the question.
02:56:17.220
Real quick, when you cross paths with a bear, right, or a man, if the bear decided to, I
02:56:23.640
don't know, viciously go after you and he came across a man, would you ask him for help?
02:56:34.380
No, but I need to understand the situation to give you an answer.
02:56:38.900
Well, go ahead and repeat the question then if you didn't understand it.
02:56:41.360
Because if I'm already running from a bear, right, and there's a man that's also crossing
02:56:46.300
paths, I'm going to naturally assume, and I'm saying, this is a genuine answer.
02:56:56.820
Then you're done participating in this conversation.
02:57:02.960
If you're running from a bear in a forest and you saw a random man, would you ask the random
02:57:08.600
Well, yeah, for sure, because I could communicate with the man and I can't communicate with the
02:57:19.440
I picked the bear, but I didn't know the question was going towards that direction.
02:57:28.140
Doesn't that kind of give evidence against spawning or crossing paths with the bear to
02:57:33.440
Because if you were to ask the man for help, right, this random man you crossed paths with,
02:57:39.980
couldn't he help you with a bear and then equally do the same amount of horrid shit that you
02:57:43.980
wouldn't want him to do when you crossed paths with him initially?
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Doesn't that kind of give evidence against your position a little bit?
02:57:58.200
Well, I didn't really understand that question.
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I thought it was like, oh, would you rather see a man or a bear?
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Who else raised their hand if they picked a bear?
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And so would you ask a random man for help if a bear was chasing you?
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Because you're afraid that mid-chase, the guy has a 50% chance of, like, oh, here's
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I'm curious on this, though, unless, Sandra, you were continuing your thing or?
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Like, would you rather a man or a bear wanders into the bathroom?
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Do you want to answer the question or do you want to drag this on?
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If you were in a bathroom, would you rather a man or a bear wanders in?
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Then I'll take the bear, because I'll probably be in a stall using the bathroom.
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I suppose I should have said male instead of the man.
02:59:42.020
So, like, in the forest where you can, like, there's escape routes, bear?
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And it makes a lot of sense to me that why a person would pick a bathroom stall to protect themselves from a 1,000-pound ridiculously strong monster.
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Though I can, with one hand, rip a bathroom stall door off of its hinge like it's nothing, because the locks are very flimsy, made out of cheap-ass metal, and they just have what's called a compartment slit.
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I'm sure a bear would have a ton of trouble getting in there, though.
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Do you guys think that if you pick bear instead of man, do you think that that's sexist?
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My original answer had nothing to do with that.
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Right, but, like, from the male perspective, it's like, okay, she'd rather be with, like, a, yeah, you get, you like bears or whatever, you like animals.
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But you'd pick, like, there's a survival, like, the question talks, there's, like, a sort of an implication of a survival situation here.
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But this is really your trollish way to not actually engage with, like, the spirit of the question, which is like, oh, I just like animals.
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It's not like asking, oh, do you prefer, like, do you like animals?
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But if you ask me the bathroom situation, I answered honestly with that, too.
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I picked the man over the bear in the bathroom.
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But so, like, you don't, when you're asked the question of man versus bear, you're not analyzing it from a safety standpoint at all.
03:01:42.160
So from a safety standpoint, would you rather be in the forest with a man or a bear?
03:01:51.040
So, but do you think if a woman were to pick bear instead of man from a safety context, do you think that that would be, like, a sexist position against men?
03:02:06.460
I think, you know, and I've seen that trend on TikTok, right?
03:02:13.520
I think a lot of women that maybe have that stance have traumas associated with sexual assault, so I can't speak on behalf of them and how they feel and their view on it, right?
03:02:28.580
Yeah, but so I understand that, like, women can and do have trauma as it relates to experiences with men.
03:02:36.060
This is not something I deny, but I guess my question is,
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would it be sexist with or without trauma to pick, to basically, of what you know about the risk assessment when it comes to men,
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to pick a wild animal, a bear, over a random man?
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It wasn't my answer, so I really don't have an opinion.
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Do you guys feel like that's what hurts their feelings if women don't feel safe around men?
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I absolutely do think if you answer bear in, like, in the spirit of how the question is asked and it pertains to, like, a safety concern,
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Because you're doing a risk assessment and you're basically, it's a temperature check.
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Like, okay, you think, like, this proportion of men are basically grapists or, like, have violent intentions,
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and so I'm going to pick a wild animal over men.
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Yeah, it's absolutely sexist, and I can explain it a different way.
03:03:50.940
So let's say a white person has had trauma as it relates to dealing with a black person.
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They have a history of trauma with somebody who's black, and for this reason, and perhaps maybe they don't even have direct trauma,
03:04:02.640
but they've known people who have been assaulted by black people, and they see news stories,
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and they belong to online groups, and the algorithm on TikTok is feeding them, you know, stories about,
03:04:17.920
They attacked me, they assaulted me violently, whatever it may be.
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And because of their safety concerns, they're scared of black people.
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They believe that, say, 50%, like she said, 50% of black people have, like, a tendency towards, like, violence
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or, like, some sort of crime, like SA, for example.
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And so they then pick, instead of a black person, they pick the bear into the black person.
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Would you say that that would be a racist position?
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If that's based on their own thoughts and experiences, who am I to tell them that that's, like, you know what I mean?
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I guess you can acknowledge that they have a preference, but you want to answer the actual question?
03:05:03.740
Yes, would it be racist for them, based on their own experiences, to come up with their own conclusion on something?
03:05:10.440
Now, let's say, like, large swaths of the white population had this similar fear because they were either fed, like, propaganda or there's, like, algorithms in their TikTok, like, basically just painting black people as, like, these violent criminals, right?
03:05:23.260
And so then these white people are starting to, like, okay, well, in what kind of dimensions can we, like, try to segregate ourselves from black people?
03:05:31.640
Can we, like, exclude them from, like, perhaps our workplace?
03:05:38.220
To a certain extent, but, like, in what way are men getting that?
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Like, how are men experiencing exactly what you said?
03:05:49.800
Exhibit A, she just said 50, she thinks 50% of men are essayers.
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Okay, what's your, uh, if you had to assign a percentage of, like, the adult male U.S. population that's inclined towards, like, essay, yeah, what do you think it is?
03:06:16.260
They didn't give you, like, tutorials on this shit?
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Why would they give me tutorials on how many people with sex assault people?
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No, there's absolutely, like, typically, like, freshman orientation.
03:06:29.900
There's some sort of, like, consent class, and they'll typically, like, present you with, like, these totally bogus, inflated statistics.
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Like, one in four, one in three college women are going to be graped.
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Did you ever take, like, a feminist studies class?
03:06:55.720
Okay, so you're not familiar with, like, the really commonly cited statistic.
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It's either, like, one in four, one in three women are going to, like, get graped in, like, college or something like this, which is totally, totally fabricated and not true.
03:07:12.520
So, basically, what's happening is you've taught a generation of women to have, like, total fear of men, and they think, like, one in four, one in three, 50% of men are literally sex criminals or have the potential to be sex criminals.
03:07:26.740
I think that's a pretty despicable thing to, like, paint an entire gender as.
03:07:34.980
Yeah, if it's being portrayed that way, then sure.
03:07:38.140
I just, I personally am not familiar with those studies or those statistics, so I just feel like I personally can't speak on behalf of it.
03:07:46.240
You've never heard about, like, those statistics?
03:07:53.240
Well, I mean, you can, yeah, I mean, there's the often, like.
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Yeah, so you could look at, like, FBI crime statistics.
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You could look at the Department of Justice of crime statistics related to this.
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I don't have it off the top of my head, but it's, like, far, far lower than the often repeated, like, one in four, one in three women have been, like, craped thing.
03:08:15.460
And I actually looked at, like, the surveys that they've done to arrive at that number, and they'll include things like, I'm trying to think, have you ever been catcalled?
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And then they'll include this in sort of, like, this overarching sexual violence term where they'll incorporate catcalling.
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If you say, yes, I've been catcalled, or, like, yes, a guy said, like, an inappropriate thing to me, that's going to count towards that statistics of sexual violence.
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And then that gets conflated with the rates of rape, which is just totally bogus.
03:08:48.020
Well, not only that, but there's also exclusion, which happens because of the classification of non-penetrative versus penetrative sex.
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So men who are raped by women, because it's non-penetrative, depending on which data you're looking at, it's just not counted at all.
03:09:09.760
Yeah, but it just depends on how you parse the data.
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Sources on that, too, which I think is interesting.
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You guys don't have stats in front of you, so it would be kind of fundamentally unfair for me to have the expectation that you'd be able to cite these things off the top of your head.
03:09:26.320
The point of Brian's question was not to ask whether or not you knew what the stats were, but just based off of intuition, what you would think the percentage or, you know, would you put it at high or very low or very high or very low?
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For the chances of, you know, a random man just as saying a random woman, essentially.
03:09:46.780
Yeah, and I stand on my answer with, like, I think everyone has their own personal experiences that lead them to have their own perspective on that.
03:10:00.980
Yeah, I haven't had scenarios where that's been a problem for me, so I personally don't see the world in that way.
03:10:07.580
Yeah, so you would put it at very low from your experience?
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For me, personally, but I can't speak on behalf of anyone else here.
03:10:16.000
Yeah, he wasn't asking you to, but I think we got to the heart of it, then you would just put it at very low.
03:10:28.140
Brixton, please use this money to finally get a commercial driver's license.
03:10:32.540
It's the California DOT Department of Transportation.
03:10:33.100
You needed to be hauling that absolute dump truck of yours around.
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I'm working, like, trying to get, like, an 18-wheeler, you know?
03:10:43.460
Thank you, California Department of Transportation.
03:10:46.460
We have a misandrist TTS that's about to come through.
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And then I have one more question on the bear thing.
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This question is to remind men that we hate you, and I choose bear.
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I hate men, and I want my sisters to be with me.
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It's kind of interesting, the women's responses.
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Like, ah, she's saying the quiet part out loud.
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But I think it's interesting, like, the sort of social acceptance of misandry and, like, man-hatred.
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Like, you're not really going to get in trouble with it.
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And then, like, in university, if you're saying, like, man-hating shit, there's typically, like, never any sort of repercussions.
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It's just kind of socially acceptable to, like, openly say, like, very negative things or sexist things or misandrist things against men.
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In fact, I posted something on my Twitter the other day on TikTok.
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There's a lot of, like, anti-male hashtags that are loud.
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So, like, I think it's, I forgot exactly what it is.
03:12:00.980
I think it was, like, men are trash is allowed, but women are trash is not allowed.
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You can make TikToks about that and use that hashtag.
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There's, like, 55,000 videos on TikTok that use the hashtag men are trash.
03:12:16.680
But TikTok, the company, has banned the hashtag women are trash, which I think is kind of indicative of, like, the social acceptance of male hatred versus female hatred.
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If you could get rid of all men, and this, an entailment of this, this would mean that women would never experience SA from men again, would you do it?
03:12:57.360
That was mostly for you, Des, just because, Andrew, you had something?
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So, I actually had a bunch of questions that eventually I think we'll add to the questionnaire, maybe.
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But I wanted to ask a few of them this session.
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So, if you had to, so you only have the choice of one or the other.
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You have, I don't know what the conditionals are for why you have to do this thing, but you do.
03:13:19.700
You have to go on a date with a random misogynist or a random male feminist.
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Now, we're going to go in reverse, in reverse, because chair one's annoying.
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So, in reverse, starting with the gal next to Brian, would you rather go on a date with a random misogynist or a random male feminist?
03:13:57.760
Well, it depends on perspective, what you would consider.
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I, bloody hell, no, a feminist, absolutely, every day of the week.
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I think the two extremes is hard to generalize, but definitely male feminist.
03:14:13.000
I would rather have someone in between, but I feel like this is a quick trick question, but I'm going to go with feminist.
03:14:26.620
I'm annoying, so I feel like you just don't even want to.
03:14:30.660
I just didn't want to get caught up for, like, 10 hours while we went back and forth on what the question meant.
03:14:47.420
So, we're going to do just a very quick follow-up.
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A male feminist, you're only moderately attracted to, or a misogynist that you're very attracted to, starting with, again, gal next to Brian.
03:15:30.980
I'm going to say misogynist, because I love Andrew Tate.
03:15:55.960
Do you have any disagreements with the show that females...
03:15:59.680
Females who work in the sex industry cannot be...
03:16:05.460
You said probably, but are there any you want to articulate or no?
03:16:18.980
Okay, we're going to get into some of the disagreements here, though.
03:16:22.820
Alex, question number 19, or statement number 19, a man dating a transgender woman is not straight, to which you disagree.
03:16:49.080
A man dating a transgender woman is not straight, to which you, you, you, and you, you all disagree.
03:16:57.800
So, to be clear, the other position would be...
03:17:17.920
Wait, now I'm confused on the double negatives.
03:17:22.860
A man dating a transgender woman is not straight, to which you disagree.
03:17:40.440
I think it's the attraction to the femininity, and that woman is saying she's a woman, and
03:17:48.400
Well, I guess before I have you guys make the justifications, what is a woman?
03:17:55.020
Well, you can talk about gender versus sex, but I'm saying in terms of how somebody identifies
03:17:59.880
whether they get surgery or not, or take hormones or not, if they are presenting as
03:18:07.480
a woman and decide to be a woman, I think they're a woman.
03:18:09.820
So, a woman is, if you can make it a bit more succinct, succinct, I don't know, whatever.
03:18:22.060
So, a woman is somebody who wants to be a woman.
03:18:25.380
Here, I'll let, we'll come back to it, I'll let everybody answer.
03:18:32.380
I think someone who is a woman is like, it's in their head, like their soul, sorry, like
03:18:56.360
I think that if you identify as a woman, if you feel like you were born in the wrong
03:19:01.200
body, you have every right to come out and say, I actually am a woman and I feel like
03:19:07.600
I mean, we have people dating like back to cavemen who would identify differently if
03:19:13.940
How would you know there was no means of written?
03:19:18.340
How would it, wait, his story would require some means of like a written.
03:19:23.480
I'm pretty sure they're talking about like the hieroglyphics.
03:19:30.400
This is something I learned in my human sexuality class.
03:19:32.280
I'll address that, but I'll let everybody answer before we come back to you.
03:19:39.100
A woman is, so aesthetically, it's boobs, vagina.
03:19:47.000
But I have to say, I've been to Thailand and some of the lady boys look more like women
03:19:54.700
Wait, can you try to avoid next banging on the table?
03:20:09.040
And I think even some guys have feminine energy and like, um, some women have masculine energy.
03:20:19.820
And if you feel that you are a woman, then you can be one.
03:20:28.000
Um, yeah, I feel like if you feel like you're a woman, then you're a woman.
03:20:34.200
So if you feel like you're a woman, these are kind of circular definitions.
03:20:39.960
Like if you, a cat is a cat because they're a cat, you know, there's, you can't use the word in the definition.
03:20:48.040
But so, um, can't, I guess a couple of clarifying questions here.
03:20:53.620
But before that, there's a chat coming through.
03:20:59.980
If Donald Trump identified as a woman tomorrow, would he or she be the first female president?
03:21:08.320
Uh, if he identifies a woman, would he be the first female president?
03:21:16.020
If he's doing it in good faith, like he genuinely feels like that.
03:21:34.380
Would you guys be happy about like that being the first woman president though?
03:21:39.020
No, just because of the things that he said about the LGBT.
03:21:44.760
I think that's the last thing he's going to do.
03:22:03.520
Uh, well, just to be clear, I'm talking about sex, not gender.
03:22:21.020
So just to be clear, you think a neo-vagina is the same as a vagina?
03:22:29.960
You don't think there's like any anatomical differences?
03:22:48.280
So I, I, and me, myself, I'm not like an expert in trans surgery, but like, I, I have
03:22:55.560
sort of a, just a kind of base level understanding of like, kind of where we are at technologically.
03:23:01.400
And my understanding is, is like, you cannot recreate a vagina or a penis.
03:23:07.780
Like it's not a one-to-one just because like, I don't think a hole is a vagina.
03:23:14.280
Like maybe to you, that's what a vagina is, but I think there's like other components to it.
03:23:42.480
I think that like, obviously if you're going down to the genetics, you cannot recreate that.
03:23:49.540
I don't know if we ever will be, but as far as like, I don't know, I stand on what I said.
03:23:58.000
But you could become a woman if you had a very good surgeon.
03:24:10.960
Um, no, not like scientifically, no, but like, you can believe whoever, like, I don't know.
03:24:28.260
But like, just, can you restate, like, just state your position instead of just like, I agree.
03:24:37.240
Um, I feel like you can't really change genetics, but you can definitely change your appearance.
03:24:43.480
You can, so women to you, women, females, it's purely like it's, you, you get fake titties,
03:24:58.500
Like when you wake up, are you like, I am a hundred percent, like what if you woke up
03:25:04.100
Well, I don't even, what would the frame of reference be?
03:25:07.560
I'm not, I don't have the experience of like, I feel, there is no feeling like I feel like
03:25:32.660
Like, can you prove me wrong that I don't feel like a leprechaun?
03:25:38.500
I believe that you can be whoever the hell you want to be.
03:25:40.760
I feel like I'm wrong how a person claims they feel, but I have no point of reference
03:25:45.380
for how a leprechaun would feel because I'm not a leprechaun, just like I would have no
03:25:50.220
point of reference for how a woman feels because I'm not a woman, right?
03:25:56.580
Um, I mean, I know that I feel very confident within my gender and if I were to wake up in
03:26:02.380
a male body, like, I guess I'll turn the question on me.
03:26:07.960
So a couple, just a few more questions on this.
03:26:10.460
And I know Andrew probably wants to jump in, but just a few questions.
03:26:13.780
Um, you, in your answer, you said, uh, well, if they feel like they're a woman, they think
03:26:20.160
But what about, and I'm going to go ahead and grant that like they can feel, I'm not
03:26:27.220
There's really no way to police like how people think and how they feel.
03:26:30.980
There's no way to like exert, uh, control or power over that in any capacity, not possible,
03:26:36.400
but like externally when it comes to the, their participation in society in the world.
03:26:44.920
Like when it comes to, I get that they can think that they're a woman,
03:26:51.460
I get that that's how they feel and how they think.
03:26:54.820
But to what degree do I have to participate in their delusion?
03:27:00.060
I feel like I can't answer this cause I'm not a transgender person.
03:27:02.900
So it's kind of like, how do you know what a leprechaun feels?
03:27:05.040
Well, I think, so like, I can't speak for those people.
03:27:08.300
Um, I think you can be whoever the hell you want to be.
03:27:16.480
So to what degree must I or other people participate in what like their truth?
03:27:25.560
And what if our truth is like, no, like males can't be females.
03:27:34.620
I'm very much a person where like, you can have your opinions.
03:27:37.720
I can have mine and we can sit down at a table and get along.
03:27:41.340
But what about like the actual manifestations when it comes to, uh, like, do you think the
03:27:46.520
position that I just stated of, I don't believe that males can be females.
03:27:54.000
Um, I think you have to go into a little bit more detail.
03:27:57.840
Cause are we talking about like their gender or their sex?
03:28:02.360
So, I mean, I kind of, I reject gender, but yeah, both.
03:28:06.820
I don't think men can become women for the sake of the conversation though.
03:28:10.080
I'll actually grant it because it tends to make things a little easier, but no, I don't
03:28:14.060
think you, you certainly can't change your sex, but like within your paradigm of like
03:28:18.920
Jen, gender as a, like a social construct, can you change your gender?
03:28:29.740
And since you can't change your sex, then by proxy, you can't change your gender.
03:28:33.380
So I guess, do you think that that's transphobic?
03:28:43.220
So I guess here's where we're getting somewhere when it comes to, to what degree, to what degree
03:28:47.520
do I need to participate in what I view as a potential delusion?
03:28:51.500
And so you've labeled, you've labeled this as essentially like, this could be a hate
03:28:55.540
crime, uh, to like, okay, but like, what if I refuse to, what if I refuse to use somebody's
03:29:02.060
Like, should I be like, get in trouble and like, I mean, I think it's insensitive again.
03:29:11.460
Um, I have a lot of transgender friends and I've repeatedly been told if someone slips up
03:29:17.040
and they use the wrong pronouns, but it was like, it was in good faith.
03:29:24.180
I believe if you are going after someone specifically because of how they identify, that absolutely
03:29:31.320
It's racist to go after someone who's a specific race.
03:29:34.640
Like, yeah, but it's not about going after somebody.
03:29:36.600
It would just be like, this is why, why can't we have a conversation about truth?
03:29:50.460
Well, it's just the pair of, you're just talking about the paradox of tolerance now
03:29:54.120
So when you say it's my truth and your truth, it's like, okay, well, my truth is not be tolerant
03:30:00.940
So then you say, well, the only thing that shouldn't be tolerant is intolerance, right?
03:30:07.600
Well, should there be social repercussions if like somebody who doesn't believe that
03:30:12.560
the male can become a female and is like, well, I, when it comes to pronouns, I attribute
03:30:17.400
that to sex, not gender, because I don't buy into the gender framework.
03:30:21.640
So this person to me is a male, ergo, he's a he, him.
03:30:30.060
When you say it's unfortunate, what do you mean?
03:30:33.080
I think it's unfortunate that they're not willing to accept people for who they want
03:30:37.640
But what's, what's to prevent somebody from saying like, oh, I think it's unfortunate that
03:30:41.280
you won't actually like, you don't believe in truth.
03:30:45.740
I think it's fair enough to think something and have a, have an opinion, but I think sometimes...
03:30:50.860
So are you saying that there should be like, sorry, love.
03:30:53.500
Are you saying there should be like physical repercussions?
03:30:58.280
Well, so, I mean, I was asking, you said it was transphobic.
03:31:03.380
Then should there be like social repercussions?
03:31:06.460
Like, for example, in the school setting, let's say like a student is like, I don't believe
03:31:16.700
Should there be like, if they continue to refuse, should they be like kicked out of school?
03:31:21.060
I think that the trans suicide rates in the public, I'm sorry, in the school system is
03:31:28.760
mostly due to peer pressure and not being accepted, especially in like the Midwest.
03:31:37.280
I mean, that makes that a really good argument for why you shouldn't be trans then.
03:31:41.480
No, because that person is expressing their truth.
03:31:44.020
They should be able to be whoever the hell they want to be.
03:31:46.100
I guess you really probably shouldn't express your truth if your truth is so horrible for
03:31:53.340
No, it's not that they're unaliving themselves because they're trans.
03:31:55.380
It's because they feel like they can't be accepted.
03:32:03.220
So that seems like a really good showcase for why they shouldn't present themselves as trans.
03:32:07.620
That seems like a really good showcase for that.
03:32:11.440
Again, if it is the case that you think that they would still unalive themselves at the same rate
03:32:17.560
then how come they weren't doing it before they could come out as trans in the 20s and 30s?
03:32:25.080
Because when they kept that shit in the closet,
03:32:27.540
because when they kept that shit in the closet,
03:32:31.300
So it seems like them presenting themselves as trans,
03:32:36.620
because we don't believe the shit that they're saying,
03:32:44.720
Should there be repercussions in the school settings?
03:33:00.540
but I just refuse to refer to them by their preferred pronouns.
03:33:21.600
I believe that everyone should have their own opinions,
04:38:14.040
because I look exactly like my father and grandfather.
04:38:42.820
Would you rather be slapped by the man you love
04:38:58.600
would you rather be slapped by the man you love
04:39:10.360
would you rather be slapped by the man you love
04:39:20.080
would you rather be slapped by the man you love
04:39:33.040
so we'll start from the other end of the table this time
04:41:56.840
so those of you who said that you would refuse to date fat chicks,
04:42:23.020
starting on the other opposite side of the table.
04:42:48.960
which founding father would you date if you had to date?
04:42:52.680
I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about,
04:42:56.080
which founding father would you date if you had to date one?
04:42:59.300
although I don't really align with most of his stuff.
04:43:05.820
I think I'm talking about specifically to their looks.
04:43:20.620
I think Washington would be considered more handsome than Jefferson.
04:44:17.140
And he can't use the same one another person's used,
04:44:47.360
how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
04:45:27.200
My friends at home would be very disappointed in me for saying that,
04:45:59.740
I don't know any more serial killers than the three main ones.
04:46:18.620
Meaning they were a woman and they had the transition to have an artificial penis
04:46:23.080
installed for a gay man who was reformed from being gay.
04:46:31.460
do you mean like he tried it out and it wasn't for him?
04:46:36.260
but he went through like therapy in order to stop being gay.
04:47:06.000
I just like the idea of a lavender marriage and,
04:47:09.080
I don't personally believe in like that someone can be gay and then turned not gay.
04:47:14.980
So I would give them a safe space to identify as gay and still have a wife.
04:47:44.280
I want to show you guys like just a very quick contrast as well.
04:47:48.820
these are just nonsense are designed to lighten up the mood and,
04:47:51.940
keep people guessing about your persuasions and this and that.
04:47:56.660
would you rather date a woman in her forties or a woman in her twenties?
04:48:01.800
would you prefer that your women had no body here or somebody here?
04:48:13.100
Would you prefer that your women are taller than you or shorter than you?
04:49:31.380
Would you rather get in a fist fight with a midget or a dwarf?
04:49:46.980
that you don't know the difference between a midget and a dwarf,
04:49:58.320
I can't believe all those clarifications I have to give you,
04:50:00.280
I take the midget then because dwarves can be like,
04:50:13.960
I'm thinking dwarves like Lord of the Rings shit,
04:51:08.220
And I don't know if maybe you got confused on some of these.
04:51:26.260
I guess men are stronger physically than women.
04:51:30.980
there's some women out there that are pretty hefty.
04:51:37.540
they're into like lifting and like very masculine and yeah.
04:51:47.840
The question is intended more in a general sense.
04:51:52.080
I absolutely agree that there are plenty of women out there who are stronger than.
04:51:58.340
There are women out there who are stronger than some men.
04:52:03.740
There are some like top percentile women that are probably like stronger than a lot of men,
04:52:09.000
Some guys are probably really into that as well.
04:52:22.160
the statement is possible to be sexist towards men.
04:53:04.600
I think it's a gender question would sort of imply,
04:53:06.580
like if doing a comparison between women and men,
04:53:22.800
the statement is women are not oppressed in the USA.
04:53:42.420
a lot of it is kind of on an even playing field.
04:53:45.100
I think if we were to talk about specific topics,
04:53:47.260
that was just such a generalization that can be taken so far out of context
04:53:51.700
that I didn't really feel like saying yes or no to that one.
04:53:55.860
So you think in some areas women are oppressed?
04:54:29.040
back then they used to not be able to like get a bank account or like do any
04:54:43.040
like people still have those like feelings about it.
04:55:14.900
maybe to like different wages and gender or like comparison or like one
04:55:27.000
I feel safer when a man is a pilot than when like a woman is a pilot.
04:55:54.080
but I feel like maybe it's based on what gender is better.
04:55:57.740
females are seen as more like caretakers and men are seen as like maybe more
04:56:06.780
Is there any like right that men have that women don't?
04:56:12.460
or the statement is women have equal rights to men in the USA to which you
04:56:20.460
What right does a man have that the woman doesn't?
04:56:50.720
There's certain scholarships that are made available just to women that
04:57:00.120
what is a right that a man has that a woman doesn't in the United States?
04:57:11.060
It doesn't even necessarily have to do with politics,
04:57:19.380
they usually hire women for like secretaries and not really like a higher
04:57:24.340
Like it's more like entry level or like an office position.
04:58:05.060
There's a wage gap between male doctors and female doctors.
04:58:10.220
I think more women go towards like those fields of being like a nurse and then
04:58:19.040
but I feel like that's just like a society thing where like women feel like
04:58:22.920
they have to do that instead of like doing being a doctor.
04:58:29.440
because I feel like the audience typically doesn't like the
04:58:36.380
you're talking about the social pressure that like,
04:58:40.260
like more push for men to like go into these more prestigious jobs,
05:00:07.140
dating would include like going over to the guy's house and fucking him.
05:00:22.980
And you didn't ask the guys out for any of them.
05:00:33.260
Do you think men should pay for the first date?
05:01:18.580
I think whoever initiates the date or it should go 50,
05:01:35.880
I asked if they wanted me to pay or if they wanted to go 50,
05:01:45.440
Have you ever paid for a guy fully on the first date?
05:01:48.180
Not like your boyfriend who you've been dating for?
05:02:18.660
you said whoever I should pay of all the first dates you've been on.
05:03:20.220
I'm just viewing this as just a failure of participation.
05:03:27.120
It's going to take you 15 minutes to get this figured out.
05:03:33.660
it's been disruptive and you're not here to answer the question.
05:03:48.860
Did you ask the guys out in any of those instances?
05:04:21.520
Do you want to like scoot into the table and be present and talk into the
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and you're not going to expect something back from me for it.
05:05:11.240
and then of those four first dates that you've been on,
05:05:31.440
those of you who like have a preference for men paying for the first date,
05:06:22.260
there would not be a second date if the guy wanted to go 50,
05:06:42.620
He just like the waiter comes and he's just like,
05:07:05.380
I think I said it was like average above average.
05:08:31.060
but then also men's higher propensity to occupy these positions of power.
05:08:45.220
So couldn't it be women's own dating preferences that actually creates the very system that you're
05:09:24.380
The reality is women's own preference and women's own mating and social pressure that all of you,
05:09:40.440
the fact that there's more men who occupy positions of,
05:09:44.440
that pay better or that are of higher status because your status as women doesn't matter.
05:09:50.100
You'll still be able to date men and your status is irrelevant.
05:09:54.900
your status and your money can in some ways be a detriment because,
05:10:00.860
but it can be a detriment or it can just be neutral,
05:10:20.540
one of the reasons we don't do that is because you guys are not sharing your resources with men the same way men share our resources with y'all.
05:10:33.760
you guys don't really operate that way when it comes to men.
05:10:40.760
She's going to just like simp and pay for dates and like financially support me.
05:10:48.700
I get it that there's like sugar mamas out there.
05:10:55.520
it does happen that there are sugar mamas out here.
05:10:58.120
you can even look at all the panelists responses here.
05:11:04.200
So it's just like you guys enforce this upon men.
05:11:07.760
Men are just simply more motivated to make money and be successful than y'all are because it's not going to prevent you guys from getting a boyfriend,
05:11:18.840
from getting a relationship as it pertains to your money and success and status.
05:11:23.840
But it impacts men's ability to do that substantially.
05:11:29.760
it would be explained away entirely the gender wage gap and men.
05:11:33.480
There's more male CEOs because y'all motivate us and reward those types of men.
05:11:41.700
It's a social pressure and mating pressure that women put on men.
05:11:49.800
we're going to keep women down and not pay them as much.
05:12:11.520
what's going to increase your chances as a man of getting sex,
05:12:17.640
getting a wife and having kids being rich and successful.
05:12:32.900
I feel like men definitely have a lot of pressure to,
05:12:52.760
She's saying that there's like this gender wage gap and what I think a lot of
05:12:57.820
and perhaps other women at the table would say is that the gender wage gap is
05:13:02.000
due to some like societal sexism against women.
05:13:05.280
That's either patriarchal or something like this.
05:13:09.080
actually could it be the case that the gender wage gap is explained away simply
05:13:22.280
the massive social and mating pressure that women unilaterally direct towards
05:13:30.900
that would be sufficient enough explanation for why a wage gap exists.
05:13:44.340
Y'all can have kids and your money really isn't that important.
05:13:47.700
Like if you're an attractive woman and you're broke or you work at Chick-fil-A,
05:13:59.260
but there's enough women in the dating marketplace that have this,
05:14:13.660
I think 50% of the women that did at the table were like,
05:14:18.840
If he doesn't pay for the first date that in and of itself,
05:14:23.040
it's enough women that it's going to create this massive social and mating
05:14:43.280
but there's other factors that would entirely explain the way too.
05:14:48.500
I have a chat coming through here from the great Scott.
05:15:15.260
if you want a hundred percent of your contribution to go to the show,
05:15:52.840
go to twitch.tv slash whatever guys were like three,
05:16:11.460
That's discord.gg slash whatever we post behind the scenes of the stream.
05:16:31.600
Let me see if there's anything else in my notes here.
05:16:53.860
I'm just going to have to skip for time reasons.
05:16:59.660
We went to homecoming together and with his friend,
05:17:01.540
he ended up leaving me to go with another girl.
05:17:21.320
She seems way too high class culture for that crap website.
05:17:46.300
That's kind of a hard thing to like kind of correlate,
05:17:56.500
or like be like more like left leaning or anything.
05:18:01.100
so you said that you prefer traditional gender roles,
05:18:12.060
But I could be conservative and still do content that,
05:18:24.920
so I agree that you could be like Republican and be a sex worker.
05:18:35.700
I get that you can like cook for your boyfriend and be submissive and do
05:18:44.260
I think kind of higher up on the like traditional scale would be not a sex
05:18:52.000
not having like photos and videos of you online getting fucked by another
05:19:13.600
unless monogamy means something different than I think you got to hide.
05:19:28.700
But let's say you break up with your current guy.
05:19:30.960
You now have videos and photos of you out there of you having sex with
05:19:40.760
and I don't think it would make you traditional to have that out there.
05:19:56.740
I feel like everybody has like a different perspective on things and I
05:20:00.760
Like my family definitely does not think it's traditional as well.
05:20:08.700
Eventually I'm not saying like right now deserve it.
05:20:16.280
I wouldn't say I don't deserve it just cause I do that.
05:20:43.860
Do you want a guy to open the car door for you?
05:20:54.280
I'm trying to think what are some of the other like chivalrous things that
05:21:09.420
would you want him to continue like paying for dates and whatnot?
05:21:21.000
Do you want him to walk closer to the street where the cars are?
05:21:24.320
I feel like it's just like a gentleman thing to do.
05:21:28.040
what would you say is the bare minimum when it comes to being traditional as a
05:21:45.600
you would expect that when it comes to chivalry,
05:21:59.680
So the bare minimum in terms of being a traditional woman would not be a sex
05:22:12.540
but I feel like a lot of people do different jobs and you just kind of have
05:22:18.840
I'm not saying everyone has to be understanding,
05:22:26.700
I'm not going to hate someone because they're like,
05:22:30.720
I'm not going to change you or your perspective,
05:22:32.500
but I don't think that someone should see me as less or not being able to
05:22:37.640
I feel like I want a family eventually and I should be able to get that.
05:22:46.620
I'm not making a claim about like having children or even finding a
05:22:50.200
but it seems like the type of guy that you want,
05:22:53.720
well he has to meet these traditional gender roles of paying for the first
05:23:06.840
what would be the bare minimum of being a traditional woman,
05:23:54.600
but you're not a practicing Orthodox Christian.
05:23:58.900
that's pretty common when infants get baptized.
05:24:02.580
sometimes go off and be serial killers or whatever.
05:24:06.060
Doesn't mean that they've actually practiced the faith.
05:24:12.500
and I'm not saying that doesn't mean you can't practice it,
05:24:14.540
but I feel like a lot of like the ideologies we had from like Bulgaria just kind of was like
05:24:26.720
likely because that's a pretty traditional nation,
05:24:30.140
They pretty traditional when it comes to gender roles and sex work and all of that.
05:24:56.660
but it's got to be hurting his heart pretty bad.
05:24:58.680
And if he's a practicing Orthodox Christian that you're doing that.
05:25:04.540
they were just born in Bulgaria and then that was just kind of on them.
05:25:07.380
But I don't think I've like never seen my parents like go to church or
05:25:25.020
But they grew up in that traditional culture though.
05:25:40.740
I'm not doing it like in a sense because I love it,
05:25:56.720
So there's only X amount of women who are on OF who make any significant amount of money ever.
05:26:15.820
I can commentate on politics for the rest of my life.
05:26:41.840
like the reputational damage done is so brutal.
05:26:46.940
I never understand the calculation that goes on at women's brains.
05:27:07.520
there's always going to be fans that like older women and they could be big spenders.
05:27:19.800
the lower the threshold of your success becomes.
05:27:40.220
Meaning if you make a bunch of money quick and it's very low effort,
05:27:44.540
you usually spend a bunch of money quick with very low effort.
05:27:51.700
I don't understand the reputational damage versus the amount of money that you make.
05:28:19.500
it's so many women have just completely forsaken,
05:28:28.060
cast aside any and all of their traditional gender roles.
05:28:35.520
still expect men to adhere to their or our traditional gender roles.
05:28:49.880
I want to be like super progressive and liberal and all this sort of stuff.
05:29:06.900
I'm sure you don't have any problem going on dates with dudes and they're going to pay for it.
05:29:19.120
is it actually a fair proposition that men need to remain with their traditional gender roles?
05:29:26.880
But women just get to cast aside all the hairs.
05:29:36.620
you need to be providers and protectors and be willing,
05:29:49.540
So that you die and she gets to survive on a first date.
05:29:54.540
That's the premise of the whole walking on the inside of the road.
05:30:11.480
If like men have to uphold here and women can just be down here when it comes to traditional gender roles?
05:30:28.900
Who's done away with my traditional gender roles.
05:30:35.300
I can at least respect that over these women who are like,
05:30:39.740
I'm a sex worker and I'm dating all these dudes and I dress revealing and I'm super progressive and liberal,
05:30:45.820
but you still have to be like this traditional man and be a protector and provider.
05:30:57.880
it's like a reason why I am doing this is so I don't really have to,
05:31:01.900
but I don't really have to like rely on just a man.
05:31:06.480
I'm just saying about like a want and what you said.
05:31:20.540
Like you literally rely on men to make your money.
05:31:25.700
there's literally nobody more reliant on men for their income than sex workers.
05:31:31.760
that's always been the most absurd argument is like,
05:31:33.840
I don't want it to have to depend on men for income.
05:31:35.880
It's like 100% of your income is dependent upon men.
05:31:42.740
I'm sure there's always like two lesbians subscribed.
05:32:34.520
my mom had me at 42 in the middle of the woods.
05:32:37.660
And my dad buried my placenta under an angel's trumpet,
05:32:55.560
I was just pointing out like somebody could read it.
05:33:09.440
I'd laugh in their face and tell them to get a more original and be more accurate.
05:33:51.840
If you're the most attractive girl in a male dominated workplace,
05:33:56.960
But if you're the most attractive girl in a women dominated workplace,
05:34:09.260
but you're not the most attractive girl in the workplace.
05:34:27.600
you've been single for all 28 years of your life,
05:34:31.440
You'd rather just forget about that eight month guy.
05:34:49.140
but wouldn't you just keep your hair just as it is so that honestly,
05:34:58.620
I mean like back then you were doing all these tick tocks,
05:35:02.720
it's just like content and so that he doesn't wait.
05:35:07.340
you dyed your hair blue so that he can't remember you as you.
05:36:05.860
most valuable things on earth for the most expendable and damaging.
05:36:09.600
You could have had life in Christ and dependent on one man who would love and provide for you.
05:38:23.140
Date a hunter who enjoys the killing or date a vegan.
05:38:40.960
You got to speak up and you got to speak into the mic and just answer the question.
05:39:14.520
even though I literally said hunter who enjoys the killing,
05:39:21.500
I don't expect you at this point to pay any attention,
05:39:41.780
from my right chair one would be over on the far side.
05:39:53.600
Can you just scoot into the table and speak into the mic,
05:40:18.400
That's the element of folding instead of hanging.
05:40:23.560
I fold to hang unless I'm not feeling like it or the towel is wet.
05:40:42.900
you guys are going to be excellent domestic housewives.
05:40:50.500
which dresser drawer would your man's socks go in?
05:41:04.820
I'll repeat the question and then I want you to think about what you just answered.
05:41:14.380
which dresser drawer do your man's socks go in?
05:41:19.340
I use the first drawer asking what drawer you use.
05:41:23.140
I'm asking what drawer your man's socks would go in.
05:41:34.040
the proper setting for a clothes iron on a starch shirt.
05:42:31.500
the bottom of it and then you flip it and pull it all the way down.
05:42:39.080
is it ever okay for men to eat a steak that is not rare?
05:42:48.860
So you would cook a man a steak that wasn't rare?
05:43:07.480
I thought you might be able to answer that one.
05:43:09.580
If you spent a bunch of time preparing a meal where the presentation of the meal was perfect
05:43:14.320
and your man mashed it all together and ate it,
05:43:46.420
We learned how to tie ties and what setting irons go on and how many times to fold a towel.
05:44:12.440
but we are now in the roast session of the show.
05:44:42.900
do you think men are insecure if they care about a woman's body count?
05:45:08.140
You said health concerns it like it makes sense,
05:45:13.820
you think men are insecure for caring about body count?
05:45:40.040
Credit to you for actually answering the question.
05:46:31.360
Doesn't he like kick that person down saying that?
05:47:18.160
but I don't have like an exact pinpoint number.
05:48:02.540
I can understand if you've slept with hundreds of men
05:48:23.200
there was Jack and John and that dude in Cancun
05:48:27.780
and that guy behind the dumpster of the 7-Eleven.
05:49:04.580
I'm going to let a couple of chats come through guys.
05:49:22.360
You wear them to protect your eyes from men's joyful.
05:49:46.400
We don't actually care about convincing you of the trans arguments.
05:49:50.640
Andrew is just demonstrating to someone who might be watching how remarkably illogical your position is.
05:50:01.600
you have to include cousins when answering the body count question.
05:50:06.980
Your face looks like it's in danger around pointy objects.
05:50:32.040
These are totally real glasses and I'm very blind.
05:50:37.180
I brought them because I knew I needed to drive at night.
05:51:10.780
that I would be lumped into the same category as these women.
05:51:14.220
The lack of critical thinking skills is shocking.
05:51:36.940
Your husband's probably on one of our OnlyFans,
05:51:40.680
and then I'll let the rest of the roast come in.
05:51:48.860
I would pick way hotter chicks than you fucking people.
05:51:54.140
Like if I was going to pick prostitutes to watch all day,
05:52:17.320
what do you girls think about adult men who play video games?
05:52:39.880
How many hours are they like spending on the game?
05:52:42.720
Cause I feel like that aligns to my productivity thing that I was talking about originally.
05:53:01.420
So he's playing world of Warcraft and he's like,
05:53:59.340
Drinking fucking seven up and eating fucking Cheetos.
05:54:03.180
This is a much more defined description than what Cheetos motivates me and I want to motivate someone.
05:54:08.420
He's going to motivate you to start playing world of Warcraft.
05:54:13.280
He needs like a healer and it's going to be really easy for y'all to get groups because tank,
05:54:36.180
You're going to be in fucking Azeroth fucking up some dungeons and shit,
05:55:03.160
it was actually pretty lighthearted for the most part and I enjoyed it.
05:55:06.180
So I hope all of you have a wonderful evening and,
05:55:25.600
moderately entertained with some of these roasts here.
05:55:36.360
And then just put it center zoom really quick and just hide it here too.
05:55:41.980
I'm going to let a couple of the roasts come in.
05:55:52.840
Is some money now really worth potentially throwing away the future life you desire?
05:56:04.760
don't be deceived by Andrew and his six smoking cool guy persona.
05:56:09.800
watch Andrew versus Dave Smith or Andrew versus has Albin gets wrecked so bad in debate.
05:56:21.520
but chair six definitely know a good possum recipe and chair five's male looks equivalent
05:56:26.840
couldn't get hundreds of bodies without paying hundreds of thousands of dollars.
05:56:49.400
If I were on a deserted island with any of you ladies and a can of corned beef,
05:57:07.040
do you have bunnies injections or bunnies implants?
05:57:12.760
ass injections or ass implants is what it meant to say.
05:57:50.400
You women could name more serial killers than you could founding fathers.
05:57:55.220
Trump has gotten rid of the Department of Education.
05:58:01.640
but I don't think they're holding it against you.
05:58:05.720
Y'all name more serial killers than founding fathers.
05:58:15.460
I'll pull up Aaron Chambers with the $50 Soup Chat shout out from Tuscaloosa, Alabama.
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I think you're quite underrated and take too much heat for absolutely nothing.
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How do you women feel that Americans have twice all agreed that a woman is unfit to be leader of a great country?
05:59:51.580
How do you women feel that Americans have twice all agreed that a woman is unfit to be leader of our great country?
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Or we haven't found the right one according to like the votes?
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I think a Labrador could probably do a better job than most to be fair.
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It is fucked if you think you're bad over here.
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a lot of people are moving out of England and heading to Spain and yeah,
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Our glorious founding fathers believed in free speech.
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This tyrant Marxist believes in policed speech.
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Just wanted to point out that I am officially claiming credit for the roast session.
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Chair underscore one underscore simp donated $30.
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Normally this guy's chair one simp always simps for the girl in chair one,
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But in order to have them actually eat the octopus,
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I feel like we got to do some sort of threshold here,
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here's how you're going to dictate who has to eat the octopus.
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Would you guys date a police officer starting with you?
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He was a liberal police officer and enjoyed pegging.
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You do realize most police officers are not going to be billionaires.
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And you're asking based on a profession specifically.
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they could have a billion dollars technically in the bank.
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there's not really police officers that are billionaires.
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I think police officers can have a sense of like,
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they feel like they're contributing and like a positive way to their
06:06:00.400
if a police officer was to happen into a billion dollars,
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like there's a really high probability that 99% of people are going to stop
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super stressful job dealing with these like people,
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you would date a police officer if they're a billionaire.
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you wouldn't date a police officer if he was like,
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but if you can take it out of the refrigerator.
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Make sure they know to eat it and not shove it where the sun don't shine.
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if you had to pick someone on the panel right now to have your baby,
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She slash her refer to gender and gender is a term to describe a person's sex.
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You can't choose gender and you def can't change it.
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Try WH-40K Space Marine 2 and suffer not the filthies he knows to live.
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but I'm not playing video games right now at all.
06:09:19.320
Seen a dude grab a stud booty and called him gay.
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I don't really know what he talks about in his podcast.
06:10:17.880
he's he like this guy knows what he's talking about?
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You've been dating for like 20 years or five years or how long?
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He'll do it like in public really loudly on purpose to like,
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like he'll let you know how he feels about it and immigration and stuff,
06:12:02.500
But you said he'll do that shit like in public loud,
06:12:13.420
Like he'll talk about anything to kind of just get a reaction out of people.
06:12:26.120
I was about to say my boyfriend doesn't align with that politically,
06:12:28.640
but like definitely my boyfriend and all of my guy friends will say things that are just,
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if you're hanging out with your guy friends and you're like,
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or what you could do is if you're on the phone,
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Share six is going for vagrant Margaret Qualley from once upon a time in Hollywood,
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Why do you think you deserve a millionaire slash?
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this is a roast as I know you will roast yourself for me.
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She's already been designated as wanting octopus or well,
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but you got to do a $69 super chat for octopus feeding.
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Once one TTS accounts for one octopus fed individual,
06:14:27.580
So you get the octopus and then you get the chaser.
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this is a roast as I know you will roast yourself for me.
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Why do you guys deserve billionaire millionaire?
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I bring everything to the table because I am the table,
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nine hundred and twenty-seven donated twenty-nine dollars.
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Your country is collapsing because of all of the cultural enrichment and their grape
06:16:45.360
Your country needs a Trump to start mass deportation and make Britain great again.
06:16:54.480
Brian is getting better at babysitting every show.
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have the panelists do the third grade multiplication sheets.
06:17:09.400
Share one's eyes are so big if she shed one single tear,
06:17:17.680
I need you to read like the first five pages of cat in the hat.
06:17:24.420
Share one's eyes are so big if she shed one single tear,
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You're going to have to read the cat in the hat.
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you need to read five pages of green eggs and ham.
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if somebody sends in one $69 TTS for the octopus feeding,
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all the girls who are willing to eat octopus will be given octopus.
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Octopus will be distributed fully to everybody who wants some.
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and I can't really talk about the show to be honest,
06:21:05.340
Tomei of the panelist seem to have trouble engaging.
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It's one of the biggest reality shows in America.
06:22:37.440
You come off as the girl that put the square in the circle hole.
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I now need to go back to work for all the money I spent.
06:23:54.560
I kind of want to walk this back now a little bit.
06:24:44.180
Let me let some chats come through and then we're going to get the,
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I want you to take over for just a moment while I prepare the,
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I'd say like my boyfriend and I kind of talk about this a lot where like on
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there's like a select few guys in the area that all the women are like,
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And then there's like a lot more girls like dating apps specifically is
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any one of us could go out and get a date today.
06:26:14.480
I was more of like a hinge person when I was on the apps,
06:26:50.920
Me and my boyfriend did an experiment one time.
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we put me like on the profile and I got like a bunch of matches,
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but then we put him just like to see like the like reaction,
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how people would react to just me versus like me with the guy being like,
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If you're on Tinder and you're posting with a couple,
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And I remember people like treating it like a dating app.
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There was some like 20 year olds on there though.
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And I would like send the emoji and I would get my rating and I'd be like,
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Like in middle school and people would be like,
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And I think that's why I thought it was so funny.
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And then this one's for our girl in the middle.
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That's one of my worst fears is eating cat food.
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I've never had like octopus that smelled like this before.
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you've got to leave emotion out of your conversation as you do feel like attacking coming from another
06:33:51.640
woman that's why a guy would prefer an 18 year old like that over a 27 year old with fakes.
06:34:12.900
Apologies guys for the delay on these TTS messages.
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I was behind the scenes preparing the octopus for my esteemed.
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He went through quite a lot doing that as well.
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Four's glasses have definitely been skeeted on.
06:35:06.980
I think of those ad-libs and the SoundCloud reference.
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can you please scoot into the table a little bit?
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a certain number of them have awful personalities
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Well, I'm just going to put it back there for now.
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so for me, the comparison is just laying in my head,
06:40:04.980
I tried octopus, and it was so good, and it was...
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But was it, like, grilled with lemon juice and garlic and salt and pepper?
06:40:19.340
Yeah, I mean, babe, I don't even know if that was octopus, to be honest.
06:40:24.220
Hold on, let me just check one thing real quick.
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Can you pass the napkins down to her, and she'll toss them?
06:40:43.820
All right, guys, we do have, like, two or three more topics,
06:41:04.780
But, you know, it made you a hundred bucks, so...
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Chair 3's last two brain cells fighting for third place all show.
06:41:36.800
Do you want to respond about the crack pipe allegations?
06:41:43.220
Chair 4 seems like she can probably tell the brand of a window by taste.
06:41:47.780
Chair 3's last two brain cells fighting for third place all show.
06:41:56.860
He's saying that you can tell the brand of a window by taste.
06:42:08.280
If Coastal operator donates $99, will you lick the window?
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Like, I thought we were friends and you're not...
06:42:29.100
Okay, if anybody wants to see Felicity lick the window behind her.
06:42:43.360
Okay, $150 if you want to see her lick a window.
06:42:47.740
$150 for her and it has to be a separate one, $100 for our girl Felicity over at $99.99.
06:43:11.600
I know this might be a mentally tasking show, but thanks from a 30-something blue-collar worker
06:43:15.200
who usually watches a whole stream before he's close to clocking out.
06:43:33.380
Brian doesn't eat octopussy no matter how much a woman wants him to.
06:43:36.620
Yo, I got blasted on Twitter the other day because I posted an old clip of me, which
06:43:49.680
Oh, that's crazy that you're coming at me like that.
06:44:10.000
Because you're my Caucasian, but am I your Caucasian?
06:44:39.540
I think she's part Latina, but we'll let it pass, right?
06:45:16.020
Anyways, I don't know, because we're talking about...
06:45:37.320
Okay, I can't believe I'm about to explain this.
06:45:42.060
I'm about to explain it, the joke, because I don't know if you guys get it.
06:46:05.080
And then we, like, fuck up the thing because we're not cool.
06:46:39.500
I said, I think we're all equal, so I'd like...
06:47:07.060
Brian, I'm going to need her to tell us the brand after tasting.
06:47:10.720
If she's right, I'll send another $100 to the burrito fund.
06:47:28.160
Oh, I kind of want you to go outside and do it from that way, though, so we get, like,
06:47:36.160
Your face has to kind of be, like, turned a bit, like...
06:48:15.460
I think just lick the window in the way that you want to.
06:48:26.700
And imagine he just got done voting for Kamala Harris.
06:48:55.880
He burned a whole Tesla dealership to the ground.
06:50:21.840
All right, let's get like six popsicles going here.
06:50:31.840
Brian, I love you, man, but you've got to stop with the mess burrito munching.
06:50:38.160
She's the most beautiful woman I've seen and not just by looks.
06:50:47.640
It's a little bit like it's gonna just break off in a minute, but...
06:51:01.580
To the women who have boyfriends or a roster of men, you are replaceable if your man or roster
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Your youth won't last forever and the war always wins.
06:51:19.160
Can you please go back to putting the instance of the panel in the description?
06:51:38.940
Brian, are you aware that babysitting is one of the fastest growing jobs in 2025?
06:51:53.600
Wait, can you guys just fully take the wrappers off just so it's not continuously making the...
06:52:08.680
Look, I'm looking at like the mucous-y shit on it.
06:53:09.580
I've been criticized about the food situation on the show.
06:54:06.260
You wrote, you had a crazy two-man that went very wrong.
06:55:13.060
Oh, it's just two, four people going on a date.
06:55:17.040
In Santa Cruz, two-mans are typically referred to as just, like, a double date.
06:55:26.180
It's like a double date where you guys both have sex.
06:56:35.200
And when I say talk, I mean, like, situationship.
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Like, they were kind of, you know, flirting or whatever.
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Um, in my personal opinion, this man was not for me.
06:57:03.840
And I sang into the karaoke machine the whole night.
06:57:29.860
But the guy that came over, when he got here, there,
06:57:39.880
I was like, what the fuck are you doing here then?
06:57:42.060
So, um, and then the other guy was just, like, freaking out.
06:57:50.580
And then I was stuck with the guy that I brought for her.
06:57:59.520
And you said your first relationship, you were homeless together.
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Because our parents wouldn't let us see each other.
06:58:37.200
And some of the nights we'd stay at, like, other people's houses.
06:58:48.040
That sounds like a terrible place to lose your virginity.
06:59:11.060
You said your hot take is being single can be easier.
06:59:51.080
It's important to know the difference between like standing up for yourself and just like
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Did you lose your virginity also in the homeless when you were homeless or was that before or
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We weren't actually homeless, but like we could have gone home and I think we stayed at his
07:00:24.540
house a lot, but we'd get like kicked out because they'd find us and like, and we'd
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have to like run or like walk and then walk to like a park or like the beach or something
07:00:38.220
And has anybody else here of like a kind of an interesting, unique way they lost their virginity?
07:00:57.080
And there was a disco ball involved in my room.
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And I just remember being like, holy shit, this sucks.
07:01:08.440
I had like one of those little, like from the 90s, it was my mom's, it was like one
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It's like a light on the inside and then each of the holes have different colored.
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And so it like looks like a disco ball, but it's not an actual disco ball.
07:01:44.880
I was dressed as Vegeta from Dragon Ball Z and she, I don't even remember, I don't know,
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she was like a sexy cat or some bullshit like that.
07:01:56.860
Are you proud that you like lost her identity in costume?
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I actually, I keep that costume and sometimes I put it on and I look in the mirror and I
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look myself deep in my own eyes and I say, I just say, I just, I nod.
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But it's, that's, I've been celibate since then.
07:02:25.040
So you had sex once and then you were celibate.
07:02:46.360
Did she know that, but you were in high school?
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It would have been better if she was like in a Bulma costume, but we can't all have like,
07:03:15.060
I want to hear the Brits say you're ruining it.
07:03:30.600
Boys, I think we are witnessing Brian's transition into a feeder.
07:03:35.380
Brian, if chair five licks a window, I will not be held responsible for the hazmat cleaning
07:03:46.620
Redhead wannabe Jenny Weasley is so full of herself.
07:03:56.260
She's lying in a Santa Barbara ditches on cheap.
07:04:19.000
In some parts of Australia, we call popsicles by jingos.
07:04:23.700
Cheers, Brian, for not totally losing it on today's podcast.
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This panel is why a lot of men prefer to be single.
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While they think things are fine now, IT won't be for them later in life.
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But casual, I think for the 20, it is below the threshold, though, but she probably sees
07:05:21.700
If my girl ever comes home with a multicolored tongue and no makeup, I'm just going to assume
07:05:26.860
she was stuck in orbit for nine months and not strolling the whatever streets.
07:05:55.840
Chair six is gorgeousness and gorgiosity and incarnate in female form.
07:06:05.820
All the little poses and the way she rubs herself.
07:06:09.560
I prefer modesty, but she's still really pretty.
07:06:25.520
The only reason why Brian likes big labia is that he wants to use it like a flesh jacket
07:06:35.300
How successful as a man will you be objectively if you transform?
07:06:42.080
So if you transformed into a man, how successful would you be?
07:06:55.720
I mean, I feel like social media, it's a lot easier to make money from social media as a woman.
07:07:01.100
But as far as the schooling that I'm going to and my career, I feel like I'd do the same.
07:07:13.940
Oh, Eve, you were telling us about the homeless thing?
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And I was like, yeah, if I can't see this man, like catch me on the streets, you know?
07:07:37.860
Has anybody here had sex with a homeless person?
07:07:43.000
What did you, the body count, you said it was like 300?
07:07:45.820
I used to be on Seeking Arrangements many years ago, so I lost count when I used to do that.
07:07:59.760
But one did end up buying me a house, so it worked out.
07:08:15.340
Brian, my man, shall on the octopus go for the sushi Haley gives off major Jerry Halliwell vibes.
07:08:27.560
Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you there, but somebody bought you a house.
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It's definitely an interesting story, isn't it?
07:08:36.960
I had a sugar daddy for a few years, about five years ago.
07:08:42.900
It went on, you know, it was, I'd see him like once a week.
07:08:48.260
And by the end of the arrangement, when it kind of came to the end, he wanted a girlfriend.
07:08:55.100
I just was quite happy with the arrangement as it was.
07:09:03.440
And with the way it is at the moment in the UK, it's really hard to get on the property ladder.
07:09:14.260
Originally, I thought he meant I'll get you a mortgage.
07:09:28.200
So you know the leg of England is at the very bottom of the UK is where I live.
07:10:00.900
I know it sounds crazy, like it's too good to be true.
07:10:04.100
But he really did just do this for me as a gesture of goodwill.
07:10:10.800
And actually, he was a really lovely person, obviously.
07:10:19.140
You know, I still, you know, I spoke to him after that.
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And it's not like he was saying, I'm going to buy you a house, but you have to do this.
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It was, I want to do this for you because I like you and I care about you and I want to see you okay.
07:10:34.660
So, you know, some people get given a house by inheritance.
07:10:43.240
So, it's kind of like inheritance in a way, isn't it?
07:10:49.580
He was the one I had for the longest and like the most serious.
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But I met up with guys a few times off like the Seeking Arrangements website.
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And we'd go to the theater or we'd go and, you know, go to a restaurant.
07:11:21.840
I've never done anything that's made me feel really uncomfortable.
07:11:25.460
How many different sugar daddies have you had, would you say?
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What men that I've met for like arrangements kind of thing.
07:11:38.780
Oh, so that's like full, is that full-on prostitution then?
07:11:47.220
Some people wanted, you know, wanted to go to a theater and then follow it up with a good fucking.
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And I was, to be honest, I was doing exactly what I would have done for free on a date.
07:12:10.060
But I was getting paid a lot of money to do it.
07:12:14.600
I would get about three, four thousand pounds a night.
07:12:19.260
Would that be for the date plus the sex or just like?
07:12:23.920
That would just be like from the minute I meet them to the moment I say goodbye.
07:12:29.720
And how many of these specific experiences, you said your body counts like around 300.
07:12:34.420
Like, do you think half of those, of the 300, was like the escorting or whatever?
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I've been sexually active since I was like 16 and never really had a lot of boyfriends.
07:12:50.680
I'd always, you know, I was a bit of a slut actually when I was a teenager.
07:12:58.520
But however, yeah, I'd say half would be kind of work related, should I say.
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What's the most you've ever been paid for like an escorting thing?
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I got paid 15,000 pounds to go to Hawaii for 10 days.
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And the whole trip was paid for and we flew first class.
07:13:34.640
Wait, the guy, the guy bought you a house and no pussy?
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Honest to God, I, this was an on and off thing for two years and I can say now I had sex with him.
07:13:50.100
He was the most timid, respectful, like he literally, I swear to you.
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Like he was happy enough to just have me come to these lovely places.
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And he, I bought out something in him that, that was, was different, you know?
07:14:14.440
And actually, yeah, he did probably want to have sex with me a bit, but then I said that
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I had something wrong with my ovaries, so I got out of that.
07:14:27.620
He was probably like 48, which I think is quite young.
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Including the like $200,000 for him to buy you a house.
07:14:46.220
And you can like factor in like, okay, this gift, this bag was like a thousand.
07:14:50.580
So I used to meet him every once a week and he used to give me a certain amount of money.
07:14:54.540
And then every time we'd go to like Barcelona, Hawaii, you know, the Alps or whatever.
07:15:02.960
He's probably, he probably gave, he definitely gave me over a million.
07:15:09.580
But you know, I've done, I've done a lot from what I was given.
07:15:13.220
The way I was helped, I released equity from the first house that I had to buy another one.
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And then I'm just about to release equity from that one and buy another one.
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So I'm like, I've got, I've got my head in the game.
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I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm using it wisely and creating a future for myself.
07:15:35.320
Can you tell us like the next, like number two and number three guy, like that guy you just talked about.
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He was the number one in terms of how much he's given you.
07:15:44.640
Can you tell us like how much number two gave you and number three?
07:15:47.020
Uh, honestly there wasn't, um, and, and he was really the only sugar daddy that I had, you know, everything else was, um, you know, just, it, it, it was basically high, high, high class escorting.
07:16:03.700
I consider prostitution to be someone that stands on a street corner offering blowjobs for $50 to help their drug habit.
07:16:22.860
I chose to do it because I'm a bit of a hustler.
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I don't, you know, I'm not disgusted at myself for doing it.
07:16:36.040
It's probably the oldest trade in the, in the book really.
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So I, it doesn't, doesn't hurt me at all to talk about it and it doesn't hurt me to think about it.
07:16:49.660
Um, and then you said you were a yacht stewardess for a period of time.
07:16:53.800
Uh, were you do engaging in like any of the escorting while on the yacht?
07:16:58.280
No, no, I, I never did that because that's, you know, that's strictly, that's two very different lives.
07:17:07.080
A lot of girls do like on the side kind of, you know, with the billionaire owners and whatnot.
07:17:12.780
But I, I was very professional on the boats, you know, and I had to be, had to be.
07:17:17.320
I say, uh, I'm going to get to your notes here now, Michelle, Mitch, Mitchell, Mitchell, what did I give you?
07:18:21.480
Okay, uh, you, on your Instagram, I saw you had a shirt from, I think, the Call Her Daddy
07:18:31.000
Did you buy that after the non-existent boyfriend?
07:18:43.760
I had an idea because, like, I had, like, a lollipop in there.
07:18:53.960
Now, you also said in your notes here that you have a three-month rule talking stage.
07:19:01.640
I think I had a question in there, like, do we, do people do that?
07:19:14.600
No, three-month rule is, like, do you break up with them, like, after three months of talking?
07:19:20.900
I thought it was, like, you don't sleep with the guy until three months.
07:19:27.740
I think it's, like, usually at three months, things go wrong.
07:19:32.340
It's, like, wait around for three months before you commit anything.
07:19:39.940
Or, like, I mean, how long should it take for a man to cuff you?
07:19:50.820
Like, if he doesn't cuff you in three months, do you leave him?
07:19:58.020
I mean, honestly, if the guy is not interested in a relationship with you within the first month, it ain't, like, he's not that interested.
07:20:14.740
Well, obviously, it takes time to get to know somebody.
07:20:17.380
Like, yeah, you can tell if you want to date them or not.
07:20:30.900
It's way too early to have a conversation about.
07:20:40.340
You might think that's too early, but if you bring it up and he's like, uh, if he's kind of iffy about it, he's probably not that into you.
07:20:51.100
I mean, you can play the waiting game and maybe he'll come around.
07:20:56.300
But honestly, if a guy is really about you, like, he might be about it from the get-go.
07:21:06.240
If you're three months in and he's like, uh, he doesn't, he's not, he doesn't really like you, I think, like that.
07:21:16.820
He wants to keep you around because maybe he enjoys your company a little bit.
07:21:30.360
But if you're three months in and you're like, hey, so can we not fuck other people?
07:21:35.380
And he's like, eh, I want to fuck other people still.
07:21:37.540
It's probably, and basically it's almost like a, uh, suppose an ultimatum to some degree.
07:21:43.660
It's basically like you're saying, I want monogamy.
07:21:49.900
He's like, you're not worth having monogamy with.
07:21:53.500
I, I'd rather, I want to keep you around because whatever sex and we have a good time, but I also want to fuck other women.
07:22:00.760
That's probably not the guy for a long-term relationship.
07:22:06.640
But I mean, look, but some guys might have a longer vetting process and they might be considering you for a long-term relationship.
07:22:13.600
But honestly, I feel, I think, I mean, look, I could be wrong.
07:22:19.960
I think like the relationships where it's like almost, it doesn't have to be like the first date, but really early on from the jump, from the get-go.
07:22:33.620
I think those tend to be, uh, the most solidified.
07:22:38.320
I mean, with my boyfriend, like we asked each other, like, what are you looking for on the first date?
07:22:43.000
I feel like it's pretty fair to be open and honest.
07:22:45.520
Like, there's definitely been dates where I've been like, oh, I'm not looking for a relationship and it just like leads to no one getting let on.
07:22:55.440
Like, I feel like you shouldn't have to wonder.
07:22:58.080
I mean, I think it's a good conversation to have early on, but, uh, to you, you also said you don't support hookup culture, Mitchelton.
07:23:04.780
And it's a turnoff for you if a guy has a lot of bodies, you're not, but, uh, you said you're not slut shaming women for participating because women were fed that it's women empowerment to do it.
07:23:17.400
But in reality, it has the opposite effect and harms women more than it empowers.
07:23:25.660
I mean, like, I don't like really care that much, but it is kind of a turnoff when I'm like, oh, you have a hundred bodies.
07:23:34.320
I think it's only because I don't have a high body count.
07:23:36.600
So then, you know, I kind of prefer it if a man that I'm with doesn't have a high body count either.
07:23:43.040
I mean, to the rest of the girls of the panel, if a guy told you, uh, I mean, I think it's weird for a guy to tell you, like, say that, especially if it's in a bragging way.
07:23:52.200
But if a guy told you his body count was a hundred, would that be an issue or no?
07:24:03.920
I don't think I've got a right to not be okay with that.
07:24:13.680
If women don't want to date a guy because he has a high body count, I think that's perfectly fine.
07:24:24.840
You know how like feminism is like, oh, you should like hook up with like whoever you want and do all this.
07:24:29.880
And it's kind of like disguised as woman empowerment.
07:24:32.520
But I feel like in reality, it kind of destroys women.
07:24:37.660
Like, for example, like if you have a laugh or you're a sex worker, I think those women can do it.
07:24:45.000
And then they like, you know, can't handle all of that.
07:24:56.940
Well, you're just saying, yeah, like, okay, feminism is basically, there's this whole thing like, oh, yes.
07:25:11.500
It's just like feminism that is presented that makes it seem like it is, but it's actually not.
07:25:20.020
I think that there's like this social narrative that's basically, hey, you should like have all these sexual experiences.
07:25:27.280
And it's empowering to sleep with a bunch of different people and like take control of your sexuality and all this stuff.
07:25:38.160
Women will put themselves in potentially like unsafe situations.
07:25:54.380
I'm going to let some roast come through on this, but hold on.
07:25:58.080
Someone's going to be like, that ginger one's a slag.
07:26:29.160
A key that opens any lock or a lock which is opened by any key?
07:26:35.860
There are actually compelling rebuttals to this.
07:26:38.440
Like the female-centric analogy that are kind of actually compelling rebuttals.
07:26:50.520
Since supposedly women prefer experience in the bed.
07:26:54.200
What would you do if you found out your date was a virgin?
07:27:03.100
But I mean, he's probably not going to help with the whole climax.
07:27:06.820
I mean, I feel like none of my other guys have, so it wouldn't really matter to me.
07:27:12.580
That would be dope if it was like a virgin who did that.
07:27:15.980
It would weird me out a little bit, to be fair.
07:27:23.040
So wait, just show of hands, would you be fine dating a male virgin?
07:27:30.840
Because if I don't, then I wouldn't want to be the one.
07:27:34.740
I have to be invested if I'm going to like teach someone that, you know?
07:27:43.020
If I got to like talk them through it and coach them through it, I want to like that.
07:27:52.840
I'd hope that he has like an idea of what he's doing, you know?
07:27:55.940
But like, I guess if he's a virgin, he's just never been there.
07:28:00.220
And I wouldn't say that that's necessarily a turn off, but it is a lot of like effort.
07:28:13.260
While you may have someone or sugar daddies for now,
07:28:27.100
Do you know the difference between a baby and a feminist?
07:28:38.360
Do you know the difference between a baby and a good one?
07:29:25.700
would you date a 40-year-old massage therapist?
07:29:33.860
IT should be noted that these women are not evil.
07:29:37.080
They are just products of certain indoctrinations
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