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00:03:56.780 to have the guests introduce themselves. So, please tell us your name, age, location, and

00:04:01.400 occupation. Go ahead. My name is Sarah. I'm just turned 24. I'm a stay-at-home mom

00:04:08.080 now. But I'm studying to be a birth and labor doula. Where, do you say location? Yeah. I'm

00:04:16.100 from Vegas, but we're making the move to Oceanside, California right now. Grew up in

00:04:20.760 Vegas? Kind of, yeah. Technically. Okay. All right. What about you? My name is Anna. I'm

00:04:26.860 20. I go to UCSB, and I currently live in Santa Barbara. Where are you from originally? New

00:04:32.000 Orleans. New Orleans. Louisiana. Yep. Okay. And what are you studying at UCSB? Film. Film. Okay.

00:04:40.520 And you're going into your junior year? Fourth year. Senior. Okay. What about you? Hi, I'm

00:04:46.720 Nancy. I'm 38. I'm a massage therapist, and I live in Ventura, California. All right. Welcome.

00:04:53.920 What about you? I'm Liz. I am 26 years old. I am an ABA therapist. I live in the valley,

00:05:02.460 North Hollywood. And I'm from a small town in Santa Paula, which is like a hop, skip, and

00:05:07.520 a jump. What's an ABA therapist? ABA. Oh, ABA. So I work with autism. What does the ABA

00:05:13.960 stand for? Applied Behavioral Analysis. Okay. Got it. What about you? Hi, my name is Lauren.

00:05:20.640 I'm 21 years old. I am a student at California State University, Fresno. I am a server, an

00:05:27.320 influencer, and I also do social media marketing. What are you studying at school? Computer science.

00:05:33.940 Computer science. And you want to become a software engineer, I'm assuming? No. What do you want to do?

00:05:40.860 I want to stick to marketing. So I'm going to go back for a marketing degree and go double major.

00:05:46.420 Okay. All right. And how many horses do you own? I own five. And you're into, because you're,

00:05:53.180 you're equestrian, you do equestrian stuff. Yeah. Yeah. And you compete or? Yeah, I competed for a

00:05:58.700 long time. And then since college and I have like three different jobs, it's hard to like leave all the

00:06:04.640 time. But all five horses are in training right now. Do you own, you own all five or how does, okay.

00:06:10.240 Yeah. And did you have them, do you get horses when they're, what are horses? Hang on, hang on. You,

00:06:17.000 you own them or? Yeah, I own them. It's not, it's not that your dad owns them? No. Anything, I'm 21 now.

00:06:26.100 Anything that I want now, I have to pay for it. It's Lauren sponsored now. Oh. So dad didn't buy any of

00:06:32.760 the horses. Nope. I bought them all. No. Oh, you're 21 though. Yeah. So you bought them all post 18 years

00:06:41.280 old or? Yeah. I bought them from the age of 20 to now. Oh, what about like, were you not doing horse

00:06:49.140 stuff prior? No, I did. Um, but that was parent funded. Oh, okay. Um, how much does a horse cost?

00:06:57.040 Like if I wanted to go buy a horse, how much does it cost to buy a horse? Depends. They can be free or up to

00:07:02.340 a million dollars. That's helpful. Um, so there's no range cause I've gotten horses for free and I've

00:07:08.940 gotten, and I've seen horses go for a million dollars. Yeah. Usually, I mean, the going rate

00:07:14.220 for a horse is usually around a 20 to 30 K. How much for your horses? Most of them were under the 10

00:07:21.440 thousands. Yeah. All right. So like 50,000 for all five. Yeah. About. And then like, do you have a

00:07:29.500 stable? How does that, you got a stable? Well, my parents have a property, but I don't keep

00:07:35.420 any of my horses there. They're up along California and there are some in like little cities around

00:07:40.600 where I live. Okay. They're all in different areas or you don't keep them all in like one

00:07:47.520 location or? They're in training. So some of them go to different trainers for different

00:07:50.980 things. Oh, okay. All right. And, uh, do you do racing or do you do the jumping stuff? What

00:07:56.720 do you do? Um, I do barrel racing and I'm in reining. In, sorry, in reining. So reining

00:08:03.380 is like you're given a pattern and you're supposed to follow that pattern in a certain

00:08:06.920 way. Okay. And then barrel racing. What, what's that? It's rodeo. So you have three

00:08:13.960 barrels and then you got to go around three barrels in a certain way. And then whoever is

00:08:17.760 the fastest gets that nice buckle and a nice check. All right, cool. What about you?

00:08:23.000 Hi, I'm Daisy. Um, I'm from like, uh, Ventura, California and I'm an esthetician.

00:08:28.820 Age?

00:08:29.660 25.

00:08:30.660 All right. What about you?

00:08:33.160 Hi everyone. My name is Lauren Harkins. I'm 34 now. I'm from Maine, born and raised, um,

00:08:40.540 doing social media at the moment, social media influencer, media personality. And, um, I have

00:08:45.660 a background in corrections. I used to work with male and female federal inmates as well as

00:08:49.000 a college, um, college age tutor for state female inmates.

00:08:53.460 Were you a CO?

00:08:54.980 No, I, I worked at a residential reentry center. So I worked, um, as they were just being released

00:09:00.520 from prison.

00:09:01.100 Got it. Okay. Maddie.

00:09:04.200 My name is Madison. I'm 19 years old. I'm from San Diego, California. I'm a full-time student

00:09:10.380 at Santa Barbara City College currently, and I'm here at the Whatever Podcast.

00:09:14.680 Yes. All right. Welcome. And then we do have, uh, Andrew. Go ahead, Andrew.

00:09:20.480 Yeah. My name is Andrew Wilson. I'm the host of The Crucible. I'm a political satirist, a,

00:09:25.620 uh, political analyst, and I also occasionally engage in debates from time to time.

00:09:30.300 All right. Welcome, Andrew. By the way, Crucible crew, you like, uh, you like Andrew shaved or

00:09:37.480 with, uh, I think we prefer the beard, Andrew. I've been in, I've been in the streams. They're

00:09:44.220 missing the beard. Yeah. They're, uh, they're not, they're not thrilled with the beard. I

00:09:47.640 do shave it like twice a year. I've always done that, but yeah, I'm getting, I've been

00:09:51.540 getting a lot of flack. A lot of flack. Andrew is not, not, not the popular Andrew. That's

00:09:56.520 for sure. Well, it'll grow back soon enough. So going around the table, what's everybody's

00:10:01.100 current relationship status? So are you single, talking stage, situationship, friends with benefits,

00:10:07.580 relationship, married, polycule, sex, cult, harem, whatever it may be. If you're single,

00:10:12.560 how long have you been single? What's the longest relationship you've ever been in?

00:10:17.160 Um, I just recently got married in February and my husband and I were together for a total

00:10:23.340 of two years, but we had, uh, like six months where we were off. So I guess like one and

00:10:28.480 a half years. Um, but we, yeah, we just recently got married in February. Oh, you're married.

00:10:33.620 Yeah. Okay. And, uh, you were together for how long?

00:10:39.260 Um, two, I guess like technically one and a half years. Cause we had six months out of that year

00:10:44.640 where we were off, but still like in communication. Yeah. Just not together.

00:10:48.840 And you have a kid, correct? Um, yes, but it's not his baby. Um, different, different dad.

00:10:56.020 Oh, okay. So wait, hold on. Yeah. I had the baby. Um, I gave birth in 2022 and me and my current

00:11:04.940 husband started dating shortly after I gave birth, if that makes sense. Wait, so gave birth.

00:11:11.440 Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, gave birth.

00:11:16.860 Pregnant 2021. 2021.

00:11:18.820 Gave birth 2022. Me and my husband got together in August of 2022.

00:11:23.040 Did you meet your husband prior to the birth?

00:11:25.260 No, my husband was my first boyfriend in high school.

00:11:28.160 Oh, so you guys, you guys had dated previously.

00:11:31.220 Yeah. He was my first like partner. So we kind of, yeah.

00:11:36.140 So you broke up and got, got a kid, then got back together.

00:11:41.000 We broke up. We broke up for like, I don't know, four or five years. In that meantime,

00:11:45.680 I dated someone else. I got pregnant. Yeah.

00:11:47.860 Um, me and his, his dad isn't involved. So.

00:11:50.420 How long were you dating the, uh, father of your child?

00:11:54.000 Not long. That was, uh, just someone I hooked up with and then I got pregnant by that.

00:12:00.840 If that makes sense.

00:12:01.780 Like a one night stand?

00:12:02.900 Pretty much. Yeah.

00:12:03.940 So like the first worst. Yeah.

00:12:05.720 Wait, you guys had sex one time?

00:12:07.040 Yeah.

00:12:07.540 Got pregnant?

00:12:08.220 Yep. Yep.

00:12:10.580 And did you continue seeing him for a bit or it was just.

00:12:14.400 No, he, no, we never dated. He didn't want to be involved. So I was just.

00:12:20.520 Huh. Yeah.

00:12:21.100 And so where, how did you meet the, him? Like a dating app or at a club?

00:12:27.560 We met on Discord.

00:12:29.020 On, you met on Discord.

00:12:30.840 Yeah.

00:12:31.680 Okay.

00:12:31.980 We met on Discord. They're like mutual friends.

00:12:34.920 Beaten Cheeks donated $100 and three cents.

00:12:38.500 Thank you, man.

00:12:38.920 Just signed up for the best debate course online.

00:12:42.040 Destiny's Andrew Destroyer class.

00:12:44.760 Along with it, he's talked me into voting for Kamala 2024.

00:12:48.440 Andrew, why are you copying my shave style, bro? Not cool.

00:12:55.700 Yeah.

00:12:56.320 Kuma chiming in with his, with his Kuma rhetoric already.

00:12:59.740 So it's way too early in the podcast for your Kuma rhetoric.

00:13:02.500 Beaten Cheeks.

00:13:04.560 Also, I'm not sure.

00:13:05.780 Oh, just a, just a heads up, guys.

00:13:08.540 The TTS is 200.

00:13:09.560 There was a, there was a issue there that should have come in as a read.

00:13:13.580 Uh, so, not sure why that.

00:13:19.280 Anyways, I fixed it.

00:13:20.800 Wait, so, okay.

00:13:21.900 Yeah.

00:13:22.240 You met him on Discord.

00:13:23.420 What was the, what was the Discord?

00:13:24.860 Was it for Pokemon or what was it?

00:13:26.460 No, it was, it was just like a talking Discord.

00:13:29.200 Like, it was just, you know, just random public service.

00:13:32.400 Like it was, uh, you're from Vegas.

00:13:34.760 Mm-hmm.

00:13:34.960 So it was like for Vegas, people in Vegas?

00:13:36.500 No, he was in Virginia.

00:13:37.360 Yeah, I flew out to see him.

00:13:39.820 Wait, wait, wait, hold on.

00:13:41.220 So you live in Vegas.

00:13:42.640 Yeah.

00:13:43.620 He lived in Virginia.

00:13:45.160 Mm-hmm.

00:13:47.040 I flew out there.

00:13:47.480 And so when did you, uh, prior to flying out to meet him, when did you meet him?

00:13:51.540 Or when did you like first get in contact?

00:13:54.600 Um, maybe like a month prior.

00:13:57.780 Okay.

00:13:58.060 For a month we had been in acquaintance, not acquaintance, but we'd known each other for like a month.

00:14:02.880 So it was a, it was a talking Discord.

00:14:05.340 It wasn't like a shared hobby.

00:14:07.100 No, it was just like one of those servers that like people just make, like group chats, kind of.

00:14:11.260 There's like a thousand people in there and he was the owner of it.

00:14:14.240 I got added into it by a mutual friend.

00:14:15.740 Is he a content creator?

00:14:17.320 No.

00:14:18.060 Um, so he, I don't know how to explain it, but he, so my mutual friend from Vegas added me to it.

00:14:25.040 Cause he was in it, but they, I guess it was a gaming server.

00:14:28.040 Maybe that makes more sense.

00:14:29.380 Cause they do play games in that server.

00:14:31.040 Okay.

00:14:31.540 So maybe that's how, I don't know.

00:14:33.220 So you flew out there and how, did you stay with him?

00:14:38.500 Yeah.

00:14:38.820 For a weekend.

00:14:39.680 For a weekend.

00:14:40.760 You guys hooked up.

00:14:42.480 Yep.

00:14:42.740 You flew back.

00:14:44.340 Yep.

00:14:44.860 Four weeks later.

00:14:46.520 Pregnant.

00:14:46.880 Like a week later, I found out I was pregnant.

00:14:48.960 Oh, okay.

00:14:49.320 Yeah.

00:14:50.100 Yeah.

00:14:50.920 Um, were you guys, uh, were you on birth control at the time?

00:14:56.840 No, I've never been on birth control.

00:15:02.060 Using condom?

00:15:03.420 No.

00:15:03.720 Did he blast inside?

00:15:06.580 Sorry.

00:15:07.200 Repeat it.

00:15:07.680 Repeat it.

00:15:08.720 I, we didn't hear.

00:15:09.400 Repeat it.

00:15:09.940 Yes.

00:15:11.360 Yes, he did.

00:15:13.380 How many times?

00:15:14.620 Uh, twice.

00:15:17.360 There was no conversation about birth control or anything like that?

00:15:20.500 There was a conversation of like, if this might happen, um, like if I might get, if I were to get pregnant.

00:15:27.520 Um, and the conversation was like, yeah, if you get pregnant, that's okay.

00:15:30.840 I was like, okay.

00:15:32.100 And I really, I liked him.

00:15:33.520 Um, so I was like, all right.

00:15:34.860 Does he pay you child support?

00:15:36.300 No, he's not involved at all.

00:15:39.260 Okay.

00:15:39.980 Um, do you want him to pay child support or?

00:15:43.080 No, uh, no.

00:15:44.820 So, so I have just a couple of clarification questions I was wondering about.

00:15:49.240 Yeah.

00:15:49.520 If he's not involved at all and you have not insisted that he is involved at all, uh, has he actually taken a paternity test?

00:15:57.380 Um, no.

00:15:58.640 So he didn't push for one.

00:16:01.500 Um, I mean.

00:16:03.420 He was the only guy that I slept with that year.

00:16:05.640 So there's no other possible father.

00:16:08.720 Um, but.

00:16:09.620 I mean, as far as we know, right?

00:16:11.360 Well, yeah.

00:16:12.000 But, um, yeah.

00:16:13.040 He never pushed for a paternity test.

00:16:15.100 He just, uh, we came to the mutual agreement.

00:16:17.620 He didn't want to be involved.

00:16:18.520 We had a conversation earlier this year and he also reiterated that he didn't want to be involved and that's okay.

00:16:25.020 I didn't want to push it.

00:16:27.140 So he's, so he's not involved.

00:16:29.380 Um, so you and your husband are supporting the child?

00:16:32.000 Yeah.

00:16:34.700 Okay.

00:16:35.420 Nick, private chat.

00:16:36.260 Um, okay.

00:16:37.940 Um, okay, so.

00:16:45.000 Okay, that's interesting.

00:16:46.820 Um, and I think one thing in your notes here that you had provided is that, uh, you, uh, maybe we come to, no, we'll go to it now.

00:16:59.940 You had said something along the lines of, uh, waiting until marriage now that you've, because you had the kid, right?

00:17:11.640 But when it came to having sex, you wanted to, after having the kid, wanted to wait till marriage.

00:17:17.140 Is that correct?

00:17:18.120 Yeah.

00:17:18.640 So your current husband, husband, did you guys wait until marriage?

00:17:22.160 We did.

00:17:22.800 Well, it's kind of hard to explain.

00:17:24.380 So we were dating after I had my son.

00:17:26.620 We waited a few months and then we did start having, I don't, can I say sex?

00:17:31.280 Can I say that here?

00:17:31.880 Yeah, that's fine.

00:17:32.240 We did start having sex and then, um, there was a period of time where we decided that it'd be best for us to, um, wait until marriage.

00:17:41.320 We ended up breaking up after that and then we got back together, like, six months later and then waited, like, three months and then got married right after.

00:17:50.980 Wait, when you say we decided?

00:17:53.080 We mutually agreed to just wait.

00:17:55.280 Mutual.

00:17:55.720 So he was having sex with you and then you mutually agreed?

00:18:01.140 Yeah.

00:18:01.660 Like, I brought it up in discussion and said that.

00:18:03.740 You mean you decided that?

00:18:05.780 I came to the decision, yes, and then he agreed that it was probably a better decision.

00:18:09.560 Right, but so he didn't want that.

00:18:10.960 You wanted that.

00:18:11.600 Maybe not, yeah.

00:18:13.600 Since I initiated it.

00:18:15.060 Can I quickly, um, just quickly interject?

00:18:17.520 I wanted to make sure that I have this, uh, this right in my notes.

00:18:20.680 Um, you said you knew a week after you had slept with this guy, you were pregnant?

00:18:25.280 Mm-hmm.

00:18:26.520 About eight days.

00:18:26.920 I'm not, what's that?

00:18:29.080 About eight days after.

00:18:30.280 So when you, like.

00:18:31.120 I'm not, I'm not sure that that's possible.

00:18:32.940 Yeah, so when, how, like, ovulation works, the earliest you can check after ovulation, um, is six to nine days, is how long implantation occurs.

00:18:43.160 Um, so it can take, uh, say, like, I, say I ovulated, uh, right, seven days later implantation occurs.

00:18:51.140 Uh, the next day, um, HCG, the pregnancy hormone, can start releasing.

00:18:55.660 Um, and pregnancy tests detect little as six milliliters of HCG, so you can test very, very early.

00:19:03.240 I thought HCG was not, uh, something which was released until two weeks after the pregnancy.

00:19:10.120 No.

00:19:10.680 HCG is released after implantation.

00:19:13.820 Okay, so, okay.

00:19:15.640 Well, I mean, I'll, I'll double check my information here, but, uh, I, I thought that it took at least two weeks for you to determine that you were pregnant after conception.

00:19:25.380 So they recommend you wait two weeks after ovulation, because by two weeks, you would be four weeks pregnant, and at four weeks pregnant, your HCG would be at least at, like, 400 to 500 milliliters, which is very detectable on a pregnancy test.

00:19:38.500 Um, anywhere from, like, six to nine days DPO, which is, like, days past ovulation, your HCG would be anywhere from as lowest as six milliliters to, say, like, 30 milliliters, and it would just show as a faint line.

00:19:51.200 Um, so that's why they say wait two weeks, because that's when the line would be a definitive yes or no.

00:19:59.100 Okay.

00:19:59.700 Yeah, like I said, I'll, I'll double check.

00:20:01.660 I mean, maybe I'm wrong, but, uh, I've never, I've never actually heard of, uh, I, I didn't even know that a woman could know within eight days, uh, after conception that she was pregnant.

00:20:13.800 I thought that it took, uh, a bit longer than that.

00:20:16.620 Well, eight days, eight days after ovulation.

00:20:18.360 So, conception, ovulation are different.

00:20:20.020 Yeah, but you said you knew eight days later.

00:20:22.120 Yeah, eight days, because I was ovulating that weekend.

00:20:25.900 That's why.

00:20:26.540 Okay.

00:20:26.920 Yeah, if that makes sense.

00:20:28.640 So, in your notes, you said, uh, does not do casual hookups.

00:20:32.780 You've been, uh, been celibate until marriage.

00:20:35.100 After becoming a single mom, I've had to rewire all my standards.

00:20:39.140 Around the time I met my child's father, I didn't have standards at all.

00:20:43.340 Uh, you were okay with hooking up with whoever, no thoughts behind it.

00:20:48.680 Yeah.

00:20:48.940 Um, well, I wouldn't say whoever.

00:20:51.960 Is that what I said?

00:20:53.360 Mm, and yeah, some of your older notes.

00:20:55.480 Oh.

00:20:56.580 Uh, so the timeline's a little interesting.

00:20:58.920 So, you said that you mutually decided with your now husband to wait, but you guys were hooking up, but then you stopped.

00:21:07.080 You broke up.

00:21:08.120 Uh, was the breakup precipitated by the change in sexual access, I guess you could say?

00:21:13.380 No.

00:21:14.040 The breakup was, uh, related to something else.

00:21:17.180 It wasn't.

00:21:18.000 How soon after the change in, uh, your desire to have sex with your now husband did the breakup occur?

00:21:24.080 Oh, actually very soon.

00:21:26.920 Yeah, pretty soon.

00:21:28.300 Um, we broke up like maybe a week, two, actually no, we broke up like two, two, three weeks after that conversation.

00:21:35.280 Um, and, but you're saying it's something else that precipitated the breakup?

00:21:40.200 Yeah.

00:21:40.600 Um, I don't know, I, I guess it would be related to that, but we were just arguing a bit more, so, I don't know.

00:21:48.080 But, now when it came to the withholding of the sex, or the change up when it came to you wanting to have sex until you're married, was that because of the arguing, or just for your own, that, like you had your own values?

00:22:04.480 Oh, well, yeah, I, so because, uh, the reason I wanted to start waiting until marriage was, um,

00:22:10.600 I had found Christ at that point, and I, I felt like it was, uh, the more virtuous thing to just start waiting, um, and to be more disciplined.

00:22:18.680 That was one of my bigger struggles, so I wanted to challenge myself on that, and, um, staying celibate.

00:22:24.900 Hmm.

00:22:26.120 If that makes sense.

00:22:28.200 And so, okay.

00:22:32.360 What?

00:22:33.600 What?

00:22:34.000 What?

00:22:35.080 It's just, um, you guys were arguing a lot.

00:22:38.880 You were previously in a sexual relationship with your boyfriend at the time.

00:22:43.940 You then found, uh, God, and then had a change up when it came to your willingness to have sex with your boyfriend.

00:22:52.840 I mean, I'm not totally, is he religious?

00:22:55.420 Yeah.

00:22:56.100 Did he only become religious after you started withholding sex from him?

00:22:59.260 No.

00:23:01.100 No, he was already religious before I became religious.

00:23:04.520 Well, it seemed you had a stronger.

00:23:05.700 He just wasn't more, yeah.

00:23:07.040 Well, he had no objections to premarital sex, whereas you did.

00:23:09.660 Yeah.

00:23:09.880 I guess it was just different, um, like, different discern, discerning thoughts, different convictions, I guess.

00:23:15.800 Um, it was, I think for me, it was, uh, something I had a more personal conviction with.

00:23:21.500 I'm just, yeah, I'm just curious if, um, your husband started withholding sex from you now, do you think that would lead to arguments?

00:23:29.920 Um, yeah, I'm sure, yeah.

00:23:31.400 I wouldn't deny that.

00:23:33.840 Well, is it then safe, is it safe to say that that's what precipitated the initial breakup?

00:23:37.700 Yeah, I think that's safe to assume, sure.

00:23:39.720 Um, I'm not denying that that's, like, a possible reason why we started arguing more and maybe having more, like, conflicts.

00:23:45.120 And were, did you date anybody else in that time period?

00:23:48.460 Um, I talked to one person, but we never dated.

00:23:51.920 Okay.

00:23:52.280 Um, well, I'm sure we can get back to that a little bit.

00:23:56.220 It's certainly interesting.

00:23:57.760 Um, yeah, we'll come back to it later.

00:24:01.560 Your relationship status?

00:24:03.200 Um, I've been in a relationship for about three months with my girlfriend, but we've been talking for, like, a year and a half.

00:24:08.440 So, kind of weird.

00:24:10.680 Wait, sorry, could you, you've been, a year and a half you've been dating?

00:24:13.580 We've been, like, kind of basically dating for a year and a half, but only officially for three months.

00:24:18.880 Okay, well, I'll say three.

00:24:20.280 Uh, longest relationship?

00:24:21.640 The longest I've been in, about eight months.

00:24:24.520 And are you, uh, bi, lesbian?

00:24:27.800 Bi.

00:24:28.400 Bi, okay, you've dated men before?

00:24:30.040 I have.

00:24:30.520 The eight-month one, was that with a man, or?

00:24:32.940 Yeah.

00:24:33.460 Okay.

00:24:34.900 All right.

00:24:36.200 Eight months with the guy?

00:24:39.100 Yes.

00:24:40.080 And, um, how did you meet your current girlfriend?

00:24:45.420 Tinder.

00:24:46.180 Tinder, okay.

00:24:46.980 Yeah.

00:24:47.160 All right.

00:24:48.200 All right.

00:24:48.740 What about you?

00:24:50.500 Um, I'm single.

00:24:52.560 Mm-hmm.

00:24:53.300 Dating, I guess.

00:24:54.500 Dating?

00:24:54.920 Mm-hmm.

00:24:55.100 What does that mean?

00:24:56.500 Um, I'm not in a relationship.

00:25:00.100 I'm talking to people.

00:25:01.040 How many people?

00:25:03.780 Um, well, I'm very, I'm very careful who I share my body with.

00:25:09.160 So that's, like, talking and flirting and stuff is, like, one thing.

00:25:13.200 Mm-hmm.

00:25:13.860 And sharing my body with somebody is a different thing.

00:25:16.520 So, um, I am going to leave it at that.

00:25:21.520 Mm-hmm.

00:25:24.460 Well, that's fine.

00:25:25.840 How many people are you not sharing your body with, then?

00:25:28.140 How many people am I not sharing my body with?

00:25:34.420 Billions.

00:25:35.060 Well, that you're, uh, that you're talking to, anyways.

00:25:38.480 Um, a lot.

00:25:39.740 Um, I was on a dating app, but in Texas, because I just don't like California guys.

00:25:46.380 Mm-hmm.

00:25:46.620 So I was going out there and, um, flying out there quite often to, like, I dated some guys

00:25:53.780 for a couple months, actually.

00:25:55.540 Had some strange experiences.

00:25:57.200 I thought I was going to, like, get married to a couple of them.

00:26:00.200 I have a lot of family and friends out there, so.

00:26:02.000 In Texas?

00:26:02.580 Yeah.

00:26:02.980 Okay.

00:26:03.480 How long have you been single for?

00:26:05.060 Um, from my last, uh, real relationship, I would say that 20, hold on, let me think,

00:26:13.460 20, 22.

00:26:14.680 Yeah.

00:26:14.920 So two years.

00:26:16.900 Yeah.

00:26:17.820 And you were married, right?

00:26:19.180 I was not married, and that's not the one I'm talking about.

00:26:21.900 I was, um, in a relationship with my, the father of my kids.

00:26:24.660 I have three kids.

00:26:25.700 And that ended two years ago?

00:26:26.840 No.

00:26:27.540 That was just a two-year relationship that I had.

00:26:30.020 Okay.

00:26:30.140 I've been split up from my, the father of my kids for eight years.

00:26:33.780 We were together from my, from me being 18 to 30, so for 12 years.

00:26:38.860 But not married, correct?

00:26:40.620 Engaged for 12 years.

00:26:42.140 Okay.

00:26:42.860 And he's the father, you have three kids?

00:26:44.260 Yes.

00:26:44.580 He's the father of all three?

00:26:45.560 Yes.

00:26:46.040 Okay.

00:26:46.300 And ever married?

00:26:49.480 Never married.

00:26:50.060 Never married.

00:26:50.340 But I've been engaged.

00:26:51.440 Okay.

00:26:51.880 Gotcha.

00:26:52.860 Um, and when did you have, uh, your kids?

00:26:56.520 I was 20 when I had our first daughter.

00:26:59.640 Okay.

00:26:59.800 And then I was 24, I think, or 23, when I had, so long ago, when I had my second one, and

00:27:06.080 27 with my, our third, which is a boy.

00:27:09.260 How old's your, uh, eldest daughter?

00:27:11.480 She's 17.

00:27:12.660 She just graduated high school.

00:27:14.040 Okay.

00:27:14.160 She's a college student now.

00:27:15.080 All right.

00:27:15.940 Cool.

00:27:16.900 Um, what about you?

00:27:18.960 I'm single.

00:27:20.500 How long have you been single?

00:27:23.660 I would say, like, three, four years now.

00:27:29.060 Longest relationship?

00:27:30.500 Three, four years.

00:27:32.040 Uh, longest relationship was probably, like, two years.

00:27:34.480 Two years.

00:27:35.080 Okay.

00:27:35.800 Yeah.

00:27:36.280 Uh, you've been single for three to four years.

00:27:39.940 Yeah.

00:27:40.480 So you've been celibate for three to four years.

00:27:45.080 Um, I've been single for three to four years.

00:27:49.060 Are there, uh, any guys in the picture currently?

00:27:55.800 Why are you laughing so hard?

00:27:57.700 Um, yes, I am.

00:28:00.940 Yes, I am dating.

00:28:02.960 Okay.

00:28:03.760 Uh, so what's the nature of your dating?

00:28:08.320 It all just comes with, like, um, feeling, getting to know the person.

00:28:13.340 Um.

00:28:13.840 Um, I think that, like, I've had stages where, like, I wild out and, like, don't get me wrong,

00:28:21.220 like, I've had, like, one-night stands and stuff, but it comes to a point of, like, not

00:28:25.280 doing that anymore.

00:28:26.480 So I actually downloaded a dating app because my friend told me that I should.

00:28:31.640 Because you won't find it.

00:28:32.240 We will react to your app a little bit later.

00:28:35.120 Um.

00:28:35.640 Okay.

00:28:36.120 How long have you been on the dating app for?

00:28:38.720 Like, two weeks.

00:28:39.860 Oh, is your first time ever on a dating app?

00:28:42.300 Um, I've been on Tinder before.

00:28:44.100 Okay.

00:28:45.880 Uh, so is there a guy currently in the picture then?

00:28:48.800 No.

00:28:49.660 No.

00:28:49.960 I thought you were dating.

00:28:51.480 I went on, like, okay, so I went on one date, and then I went on a date with a girl.

00:28:56.040 Oh, okay, so are you bi?

00:28:57.500 No, I only went on the date to see what, like, the stimulation would be.

00:29:01.360 Sorry, the what?

00:29:02.460 Stimulation.

00:29:03.620 The stimulation?

00:29:04.900 Like, would I be stimulated?

00:29:06.520 Oh.

00:29:07.500 Okay.

00:29:08.380 Sure.

00:29:09.780 Uh, okay.

00:29:11.220 You know, were you stimulated?

00:29:12.320 You never know until you find out.

00:29:13.380 Were you stimulated?

00:29:14.440 It was very cool.

00:29:14.520 It was, it was, I was a little curious.

00:29:16.700 You know, I wouldn't, like, I've, like, messed with girls before.

00:29:20.320 What does that mean?

00:29:21.380 I've had threesomes.

00:29:23.080 Threesomes.

00:29:23.840 Threesomes.

00:29:24.520 Like, two girls, one guy?

00:29:26.640 Yes.

00:29:27.160 Three girls?

00:29:27.900 Two girls, one guy.

00:29:29.240 Okay.

00:29:31.360 All right.

00:29:31.960 But, like, have you been on dates with girls before?

00:29:35.880 No.

00:29:36.580 And, like, a majority of my friends are actually, like, um, lesbian.

00:29:46.100 Can I say that?

00:29:47.120 Yeah, that's fine.

00:29:47.780 Okay, cool.

00:29:48.380 That's fine.

00:29:49.440 The majority of your, the majority of your friends are lesbians.

00:29:53.060 Yes.

00:29:53.340 It's crazy.

00:29:54.000 Okay.

00:29:54.400 Let's be honest.

00:29:55.060 All right.

00:29:56.820 And so, were you stimulated?

00:29:59.820 I was, like, you know what?

00:30:02.400 They look like they're having a blast.

00:30:04.060 I just want to maybe, like, dibble and dabble.

00:30:06.440 Get in the water.

00:30:08.940 So, did you, did you guys hook up?

00:30:11.020 No.

00:30:11.540 No.

00:30:11.960 Okay.

00:30:12.280 No.

00:30:13.500 Kiss?

00:30:14.860 I've kissed, um.

00:30:16.280 A girl?

00:30:16.780 I've kissed some of my friends.

00:30:19.080 I kissed a girl.

00:30:20.540 Yeah.

00:30:21.220 All right.

00:30:22.040 And, um, so there's no guys in the picture.

00:30:25.200 No guys?

00:30:25.980 There's not one guy?

00:30:27.520 Well, you look disappointed.

00:30:28.320 Are you disappointed?

00:30:30.460 Do you want to take me on a date?

00:30:31.580 No.

00:30:32.580 I'm kidding.

00:30:33.300 No.

00:30:34.120 Um, then I think that, like, I've been on a date and I felt like it wasn't really there.

00:30:37.920 Um, there's guys that I've been texting consecutively.

00:30:40.500 So, I would, like, not to the point of conversation to be, like, this is a thing.

00:30:44.540 Yeah.

00:30:44.660 Like, we just went on dates and stuff.

00:30:45.980 Like, we'll text, but it's not going to be, like.

00:30:47.460 Sure.

00:30:49.660 What's the, uh, do you have a roster currently?

00:30:52.800 Um, no.

00:30:54.560 Actually, that's why I got on the dating app.

00:30:56.080 Because I felt like I didn't have enough, like, hoes.

00:30:59.680 So, you want more hoes.

00:31:02.160 I just want to be entertained or stimulated, I guess.

00:31:05.280 You want to be entertained or stimulated?

00:31:08.200 Yeah.

00:31:08.360 Both.

00:31:09.180 Both.

00:31:10.040 Okay.

00:31:10.700 What's the difference between being entertained and stimulated?

00:31:13.620 Entertainment comes with, like, something that could be intriguing.

00:31:16.940 Or entertainment can just be, like, um, like talking.

00:31:19.500 I wasn't really, like, talking to anybody, so I felt like it was, like, I need to open

00:31:24.660 up my doors to, like, meeting new people, I guess.

00:31:30.340 And that was, like, the easier access point, especially now in, like, our generation.

00:31:33.480 Question for the entire panel on the entertainment thing.

00:31:36.200 Uh, how important is it to you to be entertained by your significant other, whether man or woman?

00:31:45.060 Uh, intellectually, intellectually stimulated?

00:31:47.580 No, entertained.

00:31:48.180 Entertained, like, they dance for you?

00:31:50.380 Like, they dance?

00:31:51.600 Like, what do you mean?

00:31:52.400 Well, they could be, uh, perhaps they're funny.

00:31:55.020 Yeah, that's really important.

00:31:56.240 Oh, yeah.

00:31:56.560 A hundred percent.

00:31:57.340 They're conversationalists.

00:31:58.760 Yeah, conversationalists.

00:32:00.660 Conversationalists.

00:32:01.180 They, they have good banter.

00:32:03.800 Yeah, it's super important.

00:32:05.360 They've got the whiz, whatever.

00:32:06.360 I'd say that's, like, a ten of importance.

00:32:08.340 Yeah.

00:32:08.720 I'll be about it.

00:32:09.240 Important?

00:32:09.820 Yeah.

00:32:10.420 If a guy can't entertain you, is it a no-go?

00:32:12.660 Um, I'm still stuck on, like, the definition of, like, how we're defining entertaining in

00:32:17.940 this context.

00:32:18.860 Like, what do you mean?

00:32:19.220 How about, you're not bored?

00:32:21.480 Um.

00:32:21.840 Actually, that's not fair.

00:32:23.040 That's not fair.

00:32:24.060 Some people are, like, bored.

00:32:24.620 Uh, you're, you're entertained.

00:32:26.920 I don't know.

00:32:28.180 It holds your attention, something that you want to look at, something that you want to

00:32:32.260 see, something that you want to be around, because it occupies your mind.

00:32:36.620 That's a perfect question.

00:32:37.280 Um, I would say yes and no.

00:32:38.900 I would say, like, it's not, like, a total loss if a guy, uh, like, if I were single and

00:32:44.580 this guy wasn't, um, like, totally entertaining me, I wouldn't say.

00:32:47.900 It's, like, an immediate no.

00:32:49.160 Okay.

00:32:49.460 Uh, I feel like for a relationship, you should be entertained, not just, like, stagnant, like,

00:32:55.160 sitting there.

00:32:55.540 You should be entertained.

00:32:57.340 Like, is it?

00:32:58.360 Like, I would say it's important in a relationship.

00:33:00.240 If you're just talking to somebody, maybe not as much.

00:33:02.460 Okay.

00:33:04.040 Um, what was the question again?

00:33:06.180 How important is, uh, being entertained?

00:33:08.800 Yeah, it's super, it's super important.

00:33:09.800 It's a 10.

00:33:10.220 I think, like, you can, you can be just a hot guy that's boring or dumb, and girls can sometimes

00:33:17.080 be just as shallow as guys and just go after a guy because they're hot, um, and that goes

00:33:23.660 both ways.

00:33:24.420 Sure.

00:33:26.100 Um, if you're boring, I think that's kind of a deal breaker.

00:33:29.260 Deal breaker.

00:33:29.700 Well, not, like, boring, but, like, not entertaining.

00:33:31.900 Not entertaining.

00:33:32.400 Because, like, I've talked to guys who are, like, they do, like, 80 million different things,

00:33:37.480 and it's super fun to, like, get to know, like, different experiences, getting to go do

00:33:41.020 something new that you haven't done before, and if a guy does the same thing as you do or

00:33:44.840 does less, it's kind of, like, okay, where's the fun in that?

00:33:47.740 Like, I want to go learn.

00:33:48.780 I'm a learner.

00:33:49.820 Okay.

00:33:50.260 I like learning.

00:33:51.840 I've been told.

00:33:53.000 I've been told I have ADHD, so I need to be entertained.

00:33:56.080 Okay.

00:33:56.840 I like entertainment, yes.

00:33:58.800 Maddie?

00:33:59.740 Yeah, but I can be really easily entertained, so.

00:34:03.540 Also true.

00:34:04.160 I wonder what, how much component of this, I mean, obviously, society's changed significantly,

00:34:09.800 but, I mean, like, there's Netflix, HBO, can't you just be entertained?

00:34:18.240 You're already, like, you know, you got TikTok, attention span, 10 seconds.

00:34:24.880 For all of human history, there was a complete lack of entertainment, and now not only do women

00:34:32.100 demand entertainment from media, but also we as men are, are, uh...

00:34:40.300 Dylan Joe donated $200.

00:34:43.680 Is it fair for your chick to have trust issues with you even if you're innocent and show no

00:34:48.140 signs of being unfaithful?

00:34:50.260 Andrew, you're a fucking beast the way you unapologetically preach the truth.

00:34:55.400 Yo, thank you, Dylan.

00:34:56.140 Appreciate it.

00:34:56.800 Is it fair for your chick to have trust issues with you even if you're innocent?

00:34:59.940 Uh, we'll come back to that, Dylan.

00:35:02.000 I'll pull that one back up so I can get through all this.

00:35:05.080 Um, just interesting.

00:35:07.140 So, going back to it, it's just interesting to me, like, why do y'all look for men to

00:35:12.820 be your entertainment?

00:35:14.740 Wait, hold on.

00:35:15.440 When you guys are never, like, providing the entertainment?

00:35:17.980 No, it goes back.

00:35:18.800 It goes both ways.

00:35:19.500 I am very entertaining in my relationships.

00:35:22.220 Okay.

00:35:22.260 I keep them laughing.

00:35:23.800 I suggest fun things to do.

00:35:25.880 I'm super outdoorsy.

00:35:26.940 I take them to really cool places.

00:35:28.340 No, like, go hike and go in a cave and go in a waterfall, lay out in the sun, in the

00:35:33.520 mountains, like, skydiving.

00:35:36.880 It goes both ways.

00:35:38.000 I would never demand something that I'm not willing to also put forward.

00:35:41.420 Who's that comedian?

00:35:42.160 I think it's Bill Burr, and he says something along the lines of, you know, us men, we have

00:35:47.600 very busy lives.

00:35:49.340 We just kind of want to relax on the weekends.

00:35:51.140 And if you're dating, if you're dating, you just get your, your weekend filled up with

00:35:57.620 stuff.

00:35:58.720 Oh, let's do brunch.

00:36:01.740 You know?

00:36:02.760 I never go to brunch.

00:36:03.400 Can't we just, I'm tired.

00:36:05.600 Brunch is fun.

00:36:06.040 You don't want to eat or something.

00:36:06.840 I don't know.

00:36:06.900 I think it's a balance, though.

00:36:07.900 You don't want to eat.

00:36:08.920 Yeah.

00:36:09.380 Like, you know, I don't know.

00:36:11.040 You want, like, half.

00:36:11.340 It's what you, like, your partner likes.

00:36:13.300 You don't need to be, like, a clown all the time.

00:36:15.180 But you want, like, some.

00:36:15.940 Some people like boring, though.

00:36:17.240 Like, don't get me wrong.

00:36:18.280 There's no such, like, there can be entertainment, and there can also be people that are just

00:36:21.440 okay with being boring to each his own.

00:36:23.780 But, like, I feel like, personally, it comes on, like, perspective.

00:36:26.660 Like, hey, you know, I like to be entertained.

00:36:28.500 I'm pretty sure if you like to be entertained, that's probably why we get along together.

00:36:31.880 You know what I mean?

00:36:32.420 Yeah, of course.

00:36:32.600 Like, do you like to be entertained, or do you like boring?

00:36:36.320 I like boring.

00:36:38.400 I think.

00:36:39.100 Give me boring.

00:36:40.700 Give me boring.

00:36:41.580 I think it's a matter of, like, if this person isn't able to entertain you consistently,

00:36:45.600 is it a deal breaker?

00:36:47.080 Or are you okay with, like, some, I don't know if stagnant's the right word, but, like,

00:36:52.380 are you okay?

00:36:52.580 Comfortable silences.

00:36:53.800 Yeah, like, just coexisting.

00:36:55.200 Like, just, like, chilling out.

00:36:55.860 It comes to sacrifices and stuff, too.

00:36:57.080 Like, hey, okay.

00:36:57.740 Like, they can do a balance of, like, maybe they can, like, okay, I'm hearing you out.

00:37:01.380 Maybe you're not so much entertaining on this part, but, like, we can figure it out together.

00:37:06.080 And that's something, like you said, like, is that a deal breaker for you, for me?

00:37:09.400 Yeah.

00:37:09.680 It's not a deal breaker, but I would like for it to be entertaining.

00:37:13.440 I get you.

00:37:14.000 But it's not going to be like, oh, my gosh, I'm not going to date you because you're not

00:37:16.880 entertaining.

00:37:17.500 Like, no.

00:37:18.020 It can be boring, too.

00:37:19.020 Like, you don't have to go to brunch.

00:37:21.500 No brunch.

00:37:22.420 No brunch.

00:37:23.480 Just lunch.

00:37:25.020 Balance.

00:37:25.980 I love that balance.

00:37:27.360 I guess, at least from my perspective, I'm not looking to a woman to, like, spike my,

00:37:34.300 like, excitement level.

00:37:37.060 Stimulated?

00:37:37.680 Really?

00:37:38.620 Yeah.

00:37:39.060 Like, in terms of, like, you being, like, some super banter or really funny, I don't

00:37:45.960 look for that in a woman.

00:37:48.800 So, as long as she's, like, attractive, that stimulates you?

00:37:51.100 Well, you can, there's a lot of things I care about.

00:37:53.520 There's a lot of things I care about beyond looks when it comes to, like, your character

00:37:59.280 and your personality.

00:38:00.760 But your ability to entertain me is kind of irrelevant.

00:38:06.000 Don't care at all.

00:38:06.800 Would you say looks is, like, a big thing, like, for...

00:38:09.940 Yeah, sure.

00:38:10.600 When you, like, first piece of art?

00:38:11.300 It's important.

00:38:11.680 Yeah.

00:38:12.300 I think so, too.

00:38:12.780 But, like, I'm not, like, in terms of what you bring to the table when it comes to your

00:38:17.440 personality, your ability to make me laugh or entertain me is very low on the totem pole.

00:38:26.660 So, what are your, like, top five things?

00:38:28.920 What are your top five things that you look for priorities?

00:38:31.420 Sure.

00:38:31.820 So, I mean, the biggest one...

00:38:32.600 You would be looking for things, like, pretty, hot, good looking, very attractive.

00:38:39.200 That's a wonderful list.

00:38:40.600 I would look for, like, those five qualities.

00:38:42.540 I think that those are the best five.

00:38:43.940 Those are pretty good.

00:38:45.520 Yeah.

00:38:45.880 I mean, I'd say the biggest thing is, so, bringing peace.

00:38:50.540 So, we actually asked this last show, and maybe, Nick, you could pull up that tweet again.

00:38:55.740 So, what was the...

00:38:57.760 I'm trying to remember what the question was exactly.

00:38:59.660 But, I would rather, like, I think a lot of women would rather date a really, like, charismatic,

00:39:05.500 entertaining guy, but it comes with constant conflict and arguing versus dating, like, a

00:39:11.720 dull, boring guy who otherwise treats you nice and treats you well, and there's never

00:39:18.220 any conflict.

00:39:18.960 No, I would rather have the latter.

00:39:20.200 Honestly, I hate conflict.

00:39:21.440 You'd prefer which one?

00:39:21.960 The boring guy with no conflict.

00:39:23.320 Okay.

00:39:23.620 I hate conflict so much, I have, like, a fight, like, a three-fight rule.

00:39:28.140 Like, if we argue, like, three times, like, a heated argument, like, I'm done with you.

00:39:31.840 Okay.

00:39:32.360 Because there's not many reasons to argue with me.

00:39:34.160 I'm pretty easygoing.

00:39:35.440 Balance.

00:39:36.020 Balance.

00:39:36.820 Well, yeah, you can have no conflict, and then also have somebody who's charismatic and

00:39:43.840 entertaining, I suppose, but it seems if it's one or the other, a lot of women will want

00:39:51.960 the conflict plus the entertaining, charismatic guy.

00:39:56.340 I don't think it has to be one or the other.

00:39:57.600 Yeah, I think it can be both.

00:39:58.660 No, but in his scenario that he's buying.

00:40:00.820 Sure, yeah.

00:40:01.380 True.

00:40:01.540 Whatever fan donated $200, I would also like to concur with Andrew's top five list.

00:40:08.140 Baddy, baddy, shut up.

00:40:08.680 Please add a baddy to that list as well.

00:40:11.200 Let Andrew cook.

00:40:12.820 All right.

00:40:13.300 Thank you, man.

00:40:13.620 No, no, that baddy doesn't make the list.

00:40:16.380 No.

00:40:16.500 Yeah, I think the question that we asked last time is, would you rather be with a boring

00:40:20.800 guy, but there's never any conflict arguing, or with a really entertaining, fun, interesting

00:40:25.380 guy, but there's constant conflict arguing?

00:40:29.220 Boring.

00:40:30.360 Boring.

00:40:30.900 Boring, no conflict.

00:40:31.700 Which do you pick?

00:40:33.180 Can I say a balance?

00:40:34.340 I feel like you have to have a balance.

00:40:34.760 No, you got to pick one or the other.

00:40:36.720 I guess boring.

00:40:37.880 I like to make up, so I like a little argument.

00:40:41.620 Okay, there you go.

00:40:43.000 Boring.

00:40:43.900 Boring.

00:40:44.360 I don't know.

00:40:45.200 I guess boring, but life sucks too.

00:40:46.780 As long as it's not, like, you know, aggressive.

00:40:48.780 We'll continue with the relationship status here.

00:40:51.180 What about you?

00:40:56.460 Oh, thank goodness.

00:40:57.320 Techno Trooper donated $200.

00:41:00.380 How many bodies is too many bodies for a female?

00:41:04.060 What is past the threshold where it is unacceptable?

00:41:08.620 How many bodies is too many bodies for a female?

00:41:11.080 What is past the threshold where it is unacceptable?

00:41:16.900 It depends on age, but once you, you know what?

00:41:23.180 Techno.

00:41:24.020 We're going to have to save it for later, okay?

00:41:25.940 We'll save it for later, Techno.

00:41:27.600 But actually, yeah, we'll save it for later, Techno.

00:41:31.240 I'll write it down.

00:41:32.140 We'll get back to it, because we've got to get through relationship status.

00:41:34.920 Go ahead.

00:41:35.140 I'm in a relationship.

00:41:39.740 Why were you, like, hesitant to?

00:41:40.960 Because I just got out of one, and now I'm in one.

00:41:45.580 Oh, okay.

00:41:46.320 That's why.

00:41:46.840 And I haven't really told anybody I'm in one.

00:41:49.020 Oh, okay.

00:41:49.420 How long have you been in this new relationship?

00:41:54.000 Like a couple weeks.

00:41:58.400 Okay.

00:41:58.740 I was going to say a month, and I was like, that's not been a month yet.

00:42:00.960 So, like, a couple weeks.

00:42:01.840 Longest relationship?

00:42:03.020 Two years.

00:42:04.640 Was that the one that just ended?

00:42:07.800 No.

00:42:09.480 Okay.

00:42:09.800 So, how soon after the breakup did you get into a relationship with this new guy?

00:42:16.260 Four months.

00:42:17.320 Three, four months.

00:42:18.360 Three, four months passed?

00:42:19.640 Yeah.

00:42:19.920 Between.

00:42:20.800 Okay.

00:42:21.460 And how long were you dating the last guy?

00:42:23.660 Like, we were talking for six months.

00:42:27.140 We dated for five.

00:42:28.720 All right.

00:42:28.940 It was very short-lived.

00:42:30.320 Okay.

00:42:31.320 All right.

00:42:31.940 How did you meet this most recent guy?

00:42:35.680 We met at a bar in Old Town Clovis, and he came up to me.

00:42:40.420 I ignored him.

00:42:41.580 And then he came up to me again.

00:42:43.300 I ignored him again.

00:42:44.380 And then, finally, we started talking.

00:42:46.960 Wait.

00:42:47.440 He came up to you?

00:42:48.540 Yeah.

00:42:48.900 You ignored him?

00:42:49.700 Yeah.

00:42:51.240 He came up to you?

00:42:52.560 You ignored him twice?

00:42:53.640 Yeah.

00:42:54.240 Wait.

00:42:54.520 So, okay.

00:42:54.880 Walk me through it.

00:42:55.640 So, he came up to me.

00:42:57.180 He's like, hi.

00:42:57.860 And I said, hi.

00:42:58.560 And I kind of, like, turned my back, and he was, like, still talking.

00:43:01.260 And then, he said, he, like, started a conversation again.

00:43:04.780 And I was, like, and I answered his question.

00:43:06.540 And I ignored him again.

00:43:07.580 I turned back to my friends.

00:43:09.020 And then, he asked me again.

00:43:10.300 And I was, like, okay.

00:43:11.100 He won't leave me alone.

00:43:11.940 I'll start talking.

00:43:12.940 So, like, was it he left and came back?

00:43:15.480 Or he was just standing there?

00:43:16.800 Well, he was, like, standing there the first time.

00:43:18.360 And then, he walked away.

00:43:19.240 And I think he came back.

00:43:20.100 I don't know.

00:43:20.500 I wasn't paying attention to him.

00:43:21.860 I was also, like, with my friends.

00:43:23.340 And, like, when I go out, I'm, like, with my friends.

00:43:25.800 I don't try to, like, I don't go to bars or, like, go out to, like, meet guys.

00:43:28.940 I go out there to spend time with my friends.

00:43:30.860 So, I didn't really pay attention.

00:43:32.500 Wait.

00:43:32.760 So, role play it.

00:43:34.980 So, pretend that's your girlfriend right there.

00:43:38.480 Okay.

00:43:39.160 So, he just came up.

00:43:42.660 He said, hey.

00:43:43.400 Then, you.

00:43:44.000 Okay.

00:43:44.320 So.

00:43:45.060 Okay.

00:43:45.300 We're at the bar.

00:43:46.040 Yeah.

00:43:46.420 Hey, what's up?

00:43:47.920 Hi.

00:43:51.880 I'm Josh.

00:43:53.160 Nice to meet you, Josh.

00:43:54.100 I think there's a DVDs right here.

00:43:56.420 Damn.

00:43:58.580 Okay.

00:43:59.940 Wait.

00:44:00.340 Was the split?

00:44:01.100 Did we miss it?

00:44:02.300 No.

00:44:02.600 I got it.

00:44:03.100 I just split it at the last second.

00:44:04.600 Okay.

00:44:07.040 Okay.

00:44:08.020 So, you ignored him two times.

00:44:10.040 Mm-hmm.

00:44:12.160 Okay.

00:44:14.260 So, were you just not into him or, like?

00:44:16.420 Well, like, so, I just got out of a relationship, like, before that.

00:44:21.020 So, I didn't know, like, what to do, really.

00:44:23.280 And so, again, like I said, when I go out, I don't go out to, like, find a hookup or to meet other guys.

00:44:28.580 I'm just there with my girlfriends and their friends.

00:44:31.040 Mm-hmm.

00:44:31.280 And we all just, like, have fun.

00:44:32.840 Yeah.

00:44:33.580 Would you prefer men, like, approach you in person versus on social media?

00:44:38.580 Yeah.

00:44:40.520 So, when a guy did approach you in person, you've blanked him?

00:44:45.820 Basically.

00:44:47.560 Yeah.

00:44:48.180 Sorry.

00:44:49.560 I feel bad, but it's okay.

00:44:51.240 Oh, boy, I suppose he was persistent and you continued dating him.

00:44:54.600 That's true.

00:44:55.220 I mean, most guys would probably slink, like, slink away after the – right.

00:45:00.920 And people – girls are like, oh, you should just go, like, try to approach girls in person.

00:45:04.700 But, like –

00:45:05.300 They got me up.

00:45:06.180 Bro, they fucking blank you.

00:45:07.680 A girl will blank you.

00:45:10.200 Hi.

00:45:10.820 Turn their fuck – turn their head right away.

00:45:12.540 So, that's interesting.

00:45:15.760 What do you mean?

00:45:16.500 Big ego.

00:45:17.000 Like, if you have a good ego, don't let that, like, tear you down just because you get a no.

00:45:19.780 Like, keep it pushing.

00:45:21.140 Says the group of women who have never approached a man.

00:45:24.200 Oh, I approach men all the time.

00:45:25.920 All the time.

00:45:26.340 Yeah.

00:45:26.620 I usually approach men.

00:45:27.300 I've been rejected so many times.

00:45:29.240 It's not that big of a deal.

00:45:30.340 I always approach men at the same –

00:45:31.580 I will never approach a guy.

00:45:32.360 That scares me.

00:45:32.560 Same frequency as they approach you, I'm sure.

00:45:36.540 But, actually, I mean, to your point, I feel like women are absolutely terrible at taking L's.

00:45:44.320 In what way?

00:45:45.120 I, like, laugh it off.

00:45:46.880 That's why women don't approach – because you're so terrified of rejection.

00:45:51.560 And also because you don't have to.

00:45:53.080 Because men do it predominantly, so.

00:45:55.900 I mean, sometimes, I feel like in the generation that we're in now, a lot of men don't go up to women

00:45:59.400 because I feel like –

00:46:00.720 Yeah, because we don't want that.

00:46:03.160 We don't want that.

00:46:04.940 Aw, calm down.

00:46:06.000 This is why I'm in the hot seat.

00:46:07.040 They're in a happy relationship now.

00:46:08.420 They're in a happy relationship now.

00:46:09.640 Like, have you ever approached a girl and it went successful?

00:46:12.560 Sure.

00:46:13.160 There you go.

00:46:13.680 So you don't have to look at it negatively.

00:46:14.800 Like, sometimes you get a no and you get a yeah.

00:46:16.500 Right.

00:46:16.860 But, I mean, most men don't want to, like, have to deal with that, like, ten times in the night.

00:46:21.360 And that's probably most guys' experience when they're trying to approach a girl.

00:46:24.640 That is true.

00:46:25.120 I've seen that happen.

00:46:26.500 You know what?

00:46:26.860 I've played Wingman before.

00:46:27.920 In what ways do you think women act negatively when they're, like, approaching a man and they get rejected?

00:46:33.920 In what ways?

00:46:35.220 Yeah.

00:46:35.680 What do you mean?

00:46:36.500 I've never seen it.

00:46:36.920 Like you said, women can't take it out.

00:46:38.120 So I don't know.

00:46:38.440 Yeah.

00:46:38.780 You've never seen what?

00:46:39.760 A woman be rejected?

00:46:40.920 Yeah, I mean –

00:46:41.380 Exactly.

00:46:42.520 Well, fair point.

00:46:43.640 But, like, when you say they can't take it out –

00:46:44.640 So even – here's the difference, though.

00:46:46.180 Yeah.

00:46:46.400 So even if I just grant to you that, yes, some women sometimes rarely will approach men, your likelihood of success is going to be way higher.

00:46:56.740 For sure.

00:46:57.240 Way higher.

00:46:58.220 So even then, you still don't – most women still don't regularly approach, at least to the same degree that they'll be approached by men.

00:47:05.860 I agree with that.

00:47:06.640 No, I'm not disagreeing with that.

00:47:07.580 But why blame women?

00:47:07.980 Why not blame the men that allow that?

00:47:10.540 Well, it's neither one of their fault.

00:47:11.740 I think what I'm trying to clarify is, like, women can't handle rejection.

00:47:15.580 I just don't know.

00:47:16.240 I'm just trying to clarify, like, what do you mean?

00:47:18.220 What do you mean?

00:47:18.860 I'm not trying to, like, challenge it.

00:47:20.160 I just want to understand.

00:47:20.820 You said that women can't handle the – take the L.

00:47:24.960 And then she's saying, like, what are some ways that they don't?

00:47:26.420 And she wants to know what – yeah, what's an example of that?

00:47:29.160 What do they do?

00:47:29.860 How do they act?

00:47:30.400 Why do you think that?

00:47:31.040 I don't know.

00:47:32.460 It's just, like, embarrassing.

00:47:33.040 I don't know.

00:47:34.420 I get rejected all the time, and it's not that big of a deal.

00:47:37.360 Like, there's a lot of people talking about.

00:47:39.140 I guess, like, in this conversation, like, yeah, there's the minority, like, the minority of women like you and I, like, where we would approach men, right?

00:47:45.740 But the majority don't.

00:47:47.100 So I'm saying, like, I guess within these women that do approach men and react negatively, what does that look like?

00:47:52.100 True.

00:47:52.360 I don't know if that's a silly question.

00:47:53.800 No, it's about them, actually.

00:47:54.940 I'm just – I don't know.

00:47:56.760 Well, it's not so much – I'm not really so concerned about their reaction as to perhaps one of the – well, I mean, there's a couple reasons why women don't approach at the same frequency as men.

00:48:05.840 First off, you don't have to.

00:48:07.140 Yeah.

00:48:07.600 Like, if a guy never takes initiative, most men, if they'll never take initiative, they'll never find somebody.

00:48:14.080 Whereas women, you can wait for men to come to you, and you'll find somebody that way.

00:48:19.620 Most men, that's not an option for.

00:48:21.480 Yeah.

00:48:21.600 Most men, they have to be very proactive.

00:48:24.460 Secondly, I would say that – well, I think that's the primary thing is just, like, you don't really have to do the approaching.

00:48:35.680 Yeah, I agree with that.

00:48:36.720 I was just asking about the – I don't know.

00:48:39.980 I think it's nice.

00:48:40.920 I approach men because I think men don't get complimented enough at the same frequency as women.

00:48:45.520 So, I think that, like, it feels good to make, like, a man feel nice and wanted, and I don't think they get that feeling very often.

00:48:54.440 That's nice.

00:48:55.460 I will never approach a man.

00:48:58.160 I don't mind it.

00:48:59.120 But, like, was he being creepy or rude?

00:49:01.340 Well, I think all men are creepy.

00:49:02.860 Like, no offense to men.

00:49:04.120 I'm not going to lie in that area, too.

00:49:05.940 Yeah, it's a bar scene, too.

00:49:07.820 And my parents always –

00:49:09.300 The bar scene?

00:49:10.580 Clovis.

00:49:11.020 Clovis.

00:49:11.300 You mean where it's –

00:49:12.900 Yeah, Fresno's kind of stretcher.

00:49:14.640 It is pretty.

00:49:15.600 It's a little sketchy.

00:49:16.460 No offense to my hometown.

00:49:17.380 Yeah, no offense to it.

00:49:19.600 Wait, so all men are creepy?

00:49:21.500 Not all men.

00:49:22.360 Most men are creepy.

00:49:23.560 Most men are creepy.

00:49:24.640 I see in my DMs, and, like, there's, like, these married men that are in my DMs or, like, old guys in my DMs.

00:49:29.140 I'm like, I don't think your wife knows about this.

00:49:31.600 But if you're at the bar –

00:49:32.680 Wait, let's differentiate here.

00:49:33.720 So, there's the married men who are DMing you.

00:49:36.180 That's obviously objectionable, I suppose.

00:49:39.200 But you said old men.

00:49:40.600 Are they single?

00:49:42.380 I don't know.

00:49:42.940 I don't try to stalk them that much.

00:49:44.760 When you say old men, what do you mean?

00:49:46.540 Because you're 21.

00:49:47.500 What's old?

00:49:48.240 60s.

00:49:49.240 Oh, damn.

00:49:49.820 Okay.

00:49:50.280 I mean –

00:49:50.780 60s.

00:49:51.600 Sorry, Mom and Dad.

00:49:52.800 Okay.

00:49:54.660 But, I mean, it is just kind of, like – so you're saying your boyfriend – your now boyfriend was a creeper?

00:50:00.880 I didn't say he was a creeper.

00:50:02.140 You said all men are creepy.

00:50:04.760 But so, okay, I asked you a question.

00:50:06.080 He's watching this.

00:50:06.720 He's going to be, like, really, Lauren.

00:50:07.880 He's going to call me out.

00:50:08.740 Yeah, but so the question was –

00:50:11.460 Ex-boyfriend, no.

00:50:11.940 The question was, not your assessment of all men, but I asked just how – was your boyfriend when he approached you, was he creepy or rude?

00:50:21.000 No, he wasn't creepy or rude.

00:50:22.540 Okay.

00:50:22.800 I just don't think I was in the headspace to, like, talk to anybody.

00:50:25.460 Okay.

00:50:25.740 So, I think that's why I ignored it.

00:50:27.560 Well, I mean, you don't owe anybody a conversation.

00:50:30.600 But, I mean –

00:50:32.360 Wait, you guys met in person, right?

00:50:33.660 Yeah.

00:50:33.880 So, did you guys, like, exchange numbers that night or something?

00:50:39.080 And then he just kept texting you?

00:50:44.260 Okay.

00:50:44.940 All right.

00:50:46.540 What about you?

00:50:47.360 Relationship status?

00:50:48.500 Single.

00:50:49.440 Single.

00:50:50.120 Okay.

00:50:50.400 How long have you been single for?

00:50:51.840 Eight months.

00:50:52.960 All right.

00:50:53.380 Longest relationship?

00:50:54.500 One year.

00:50:55.180 One year.

00:50:55.840 All right.

00:50:56.940 No guys in the picture currently?

00:50:58.760 No guys.

00:50:59.260 No guys?

00:51:00.020 No guys.

00:51:00.580 I'm trying to date, but men are –

00:51:05.060 Men are what?

00:51:06.940 They're not creepy.

00:51:08.080 I don't think men are creepy.

00:51:09.860 I would disagree with that.

00:51:11.820 I feel like you think creepy guys are probably, like, the ugly ones or unattractive, I should

00:51:17.120 say.

00:51:18.060 But, like, I was, like, telling my friend, like, if a hot guy, like, comes up to us and,

00:51:23.060 like, compliments us, it's like, oh, my God.

00:51:25.220 But if an ugly guy comes up to us and, like, tries to flirt, same thing, we're just like,

00:51:30.580 oh, my God, dude.

00:51:31.460 Because she was, like, the other day, she was like, oh, my God, he, like, walked up.

00:51:34.980 This guy's following us.

00:51:36.200 And I'm like, but if he was hot, trust me, you would have been all about it.

00:51:40.220 I mean, that's – it's an actually really good point.

00:51:43.400 The exact same behavior will fall into desired or, like, undesired based on the attractiveness

00:51:51.120 of the man.

00:51:51.920 And obviously, there's some conduct and behavior that's unacceptable regardless.

00:51:56.800 But –

00:51:56.880 What Andrew said, hot, good-looking.

00:51:59.700 Yeah.

00:52:00.000 All of his five.

00:52:00.920 All of your five.

00:52:02.140 Yeah.

00:52:02.620 It also goes, though, like, when people – when girls are just nice to a guy, sometimes

00:52:06.220 they misinterpret that as us flirting with them.

00:52:08.940 And then it's, like, they just don't know when to quit.

00:52:10.720 Like, hey, I was just being polite.

00:52:12.200 Like, now, like, stop bothering me.

00:52:15.780 That's so true.

00:52:16.780 Doesn't mean that I – yeah.

00:52:17.660 Wait, didn't you say you'd go up to guys just to give them a compliment?

00:52:21.520 Yeah, I would.

00:52:22.140 Yeah.

00:52:22.920 You're – no, no, no, I didn't say that.

00:52:24.580 And you just said men never receive compliments.

00:52:27.080 What did you – what did you –

00:52:27.640 Didn't you say, like, you'll go up to a guy and just give them a compliment?

00:52:30.620 Yeah, I would.

00:52:30.820 Is it a guy that you're interested in?

00:52:32.540 Sometimes.

00:52:33.100 I mean, I compliment women, too, if I see them – like, it doesn't have to be sexual.

00:52:36.620 I just think, in general, men don't feel enough, like, appreciation and praise.

00:52:44.160 So I just try to, like – if I say, like, oh, wow, I really like your boots.

00:52:48.120 Those are nice boots.

00:52:49.140 Or you really play pool.

00:52:51.880 Well, I don't know.

00:52:53.260 It doesn't – I'm being just nice.

00:52:54.900 That's cool.

00:52:55.380 But I'm not talking about that.

00:52:56.620 I'm talking about, like, if you're a customer service worker and a guy – you're, like,

00:53:00.760 like, being nice because you're just – that's your job.

00:53:02.940 And then they, like, want your number.

00:53:05.060 And then it's, like – and it just makes it uncomfortable.

00:53:07.280 I think it's hard when you have, like, a friendly personality and you're just, like,

00:53:10.780 a warm person.

00:53:11.320 Yeah.

00:53:11.440 And I feel like that's taken as, like, oh, ooh, all right.

00:53:15.020 You know what I mean?

00:53:15.580 I feel like it's, like, taken, like, to the next level.

00:53:18.460 Relationship status?

00:53:19.920 Well, I'm single.

00:53:22.260 I've never been in a relationship.

00:53:24.040 And that's about it.

00:53:27.280 You want to elaborate?

00:53:29.520 Yes.

00:53:29.880 Well, I feel like my teens and 20s, I just, like, wasn't ready to date anyone.

00:53:37.480 It really just wasn't a priority for me.

00:53:40.080 I feel like I was just, I don't know, living my life.

00:53:44.800 And it just wasn't something that I was super interested in, honestly.

00:53:51.280 And then I also feel like I – on top of that, I don't experience attraction that often.

00:53:57.100 So, that also made it easy for me to avoid dating.

00:54:02.760 Do you want to elaborate?

00:54:04.960 And I am a virgin at 34 years old.

00:54:07.220 Okay.

00:54:07.760 Thank you.

00:54:08.320 And there was a New York Post article about this.

00:54:12.840 Nick, could you pull it up?

00:54:13.780 Yeah.

00:54:15.900 Oh, we got the article.

00:54:17.440 We're going to get the New York Post article.

00:54:19.300 I'm going to have you read it.

00:54:20.280 If you can – can you see the screen?

00:54:22.600 You want me to read it?

00:54:23.540 Yeah, go ahead.

00:54:24.560 I am a 33-year-old virgin who is not religious.

00:54:27.020 This is why I've never had sex.

00:54:28.740 That's not a direct quote, but that is true.

00:54:32.340 Do you want to keep reading it?

00:54:35.180 Yeah, please.

00:54:36.180 Okay.

00:54:36.800 A 33-year-old virgin says there's nothing wrong with being a late bloomer and insists it's

00:54:40.700 quite common for millennials to have never done the deed.

00:54:43.900 Also not a direct quote, but yes.

00:54:46.360 Lauren Harkins made the claim in an interview with Southwest News Service revealing religion

00:54:50.360 wasn't the reason why she's remained chaste.

00:54:52.100 I'm a virgin, but I'm not traditional.

00:54:54.480 Usually it's one or the other, but I'm just very content on my own, the Portland, Maine

00:54:58.100 resident stated.

00:55:00.300 That is true.

00:55:00.980 Thank you, JJ.

00:55:02.780 Okay.

00:55:05.960 So have you been on a date?

00:55:09.460 I've never been on a date, no.

00:55:11.540 Not even a date?

00:55:12.460 I haven't because I am very all or nothing, so I'm not going to go on a date with someone

00:55:20.640 that I'm not interested in.

00:55:22.820 I'm not going to waste anyone's time.

00:55:24.500 I'm not going to waste my time.

00:55:25.240 I'm not going to waste, I'm not going to weed anyone on just to get a free meal.

00:55:28.760 So no, I've never been on a date with anyone.

00:55:32.760 Have you been asked out on dates?

00:55:35.460 I have.

00:55:36.680 Okay.

00:55:37.220 Yes, have.

00:55:39.800 How many times have you been asked out?

00:55:43.480 Oh, golly.

00:55:44.760 I don't know.

00:55:45.380 I mean, asked out or like approached.

00:55:48.880 I feel like asked out is kind of like next level.

00:55:52.580 I feel like I've been approached more than I've been technically asked out a lot of times.

00:56:01.140 Hundreds.

00:56:02.620 Hundreds?

00:56:03.900 Probably.

00:56:04.700 Over the years, yeah.

00:56:04.980 And you rejected them all?

00:56:06.740 Yeah.

00:56:07.120 I mean, like a friendly way.

00:56:08.960 I'm a friendly gal, but yeah.

00:56:10.320 That's fine.

00:56:10.700 None of them, and was it lack of physical attraction, lack of personality?

00:56:16.220 I mean, for me, it's everything.

00:56:17.560 It's like, it's lack of physical attraction, but I think it's also, it's something that you just feel.

00:56:24.500 If I feel someone is not for me, again, I'm not going to waste anyone's time.

00:56:28.220 I personally do think that there has to be that feeling there.

00:56:34.460 I think it's honestly the same with like friends.

00:56:36.620 Like I know who I like, who I want to be friends with.

00:56:38.800 It's just, it's like who you jive with in that way.

00:56:41.980 So it's not just, you know, for romantic relationships for me.

00:56:46.680 I'm just very intentional with who I surround myself with.

00:56:50.680 Have you ever felt that?

00:56:52.800 With a man?

00:56:53.960 Yeah.

00:56:54.580 No.

00:56:55.440 I mean, no, I've never, no one that I've met I've felt that for.

00:56:59.520 Have you ever been physically attracted to a man?

00:57:02.560 Yeah, I feel like I'm getting there.

00:57:05.200 I feel like I've, to some extent, but also I feel like that, again, that emotional connection has to be there.

00:57:11.800 So nothing specific that I can say, but.

00:57:15.960 Have you ever.

00:57:16.900 And do you, I'm just, just curious.

00:57:20.340 And maybe this sounds a little off.

00:57:22.020 You don't have to ask it or answer if you don't want to, but do you suffer from any forms of mental illness by chance?

00:57:28.060 What's up, Andrew?

00:57:29.840 I don't, actually.

00:57:31.200 I don't.

00:57:31.860 I'm actually, I think I'm a pretty healthy girl.

00:57:34.960 I don't have any, I'm pretty fortunate I don't have any mental illness to speak of.

00:57:40.500 I don't have any trauma to speak of.

00:57:43.560 Very limited baggage.

00:57:45.480 Very.

00:57:45.700 Well, can I qualify to you why I asked the question?

00:57:48.640 Of course.

00:57:48.860 Because I know that it seems a little off, right?

00:57:50.540 Absolutely.

00:57:50.780 Especially for somebody who promotes the virtue of chastity in society.

00:57:55.260 Of course.

00:57:55.640 The reason that I promote, though, the virtue of chastity in society is because it's a virtue.

00:58:00.900 If somebody is angling for the virtuous end, I think that that end is good, right?

00:58:05.860 So they're angling for it for virtue.

00:58:08.440 But that does not appear to actually be what you're doing.

00:58:10.940 It appears that it has nothing to do with virtue.

00:58:13.860 You just don't find men to be particularly attractive, and so you don't sleep with them, right?

00:58:19.660 That's fair.

00:58:20.400 I think it's also, I think it's also both.

00:58:22.320 I mean, I'm not religious, so I don't know if I would personally use the word virtue, but I do understand what you're saying.

00:58:26.640 I think for me, it's yes, I don't experience attraction, but even if I did, I still think it's so important to be intentional about who you share your body with.

00:58:34.860 I think it's important to be intentional about everything, honestly.

00:58:37.040 Again, who you surround yourself with.

00:58:39.700 Yeah, but you have no higher reason that you're appealing to for that.

00:58:43.380 You just, it's just like kind of an innate set of preferences that you have.

00:58:47.780 Yeah, that's fair.

00:58:48.340 So I wonder if these aren't just post hoc justifications for the fact that you're just not particularly attracted to men,

00:58:55.020 and so you kind of justify these things by saying, well, I think that it's important.

00:58:59.680 The reason that I'm not is because of X, Y, Z.

00:59:02.340 It's like a justification for, you know, for this factor.

00:59:06.080 Now, I'm not beating up on you, I'm just genuinely curious, because it's rare that you run into a secularist who is a virgin,

00:59:14.300 because, of course, generally speaking, people pursue that because it's some kind of virtue.

00:59:19.380 So I'm just wondering, since it's not a virtue, is this just a post hoc justification for, well, I'm just kind of like a social weirdo, right?

00:59:27.780 I understand what you're saying.

00:59:28.360 Does that make sense, you know what I mean?

00:59:30.020 Yeah, no, I get you, I get you.

00:59:31.560 I don't take offense to that.

00:59:32.900 I understand what you're saying.

00:59:34.000 I do think, though, for me, it is both.

00:59:37.160 Even if I was attracted to men at the same rate as, you know, other girls, I think I would still be just very selective with who I share my body with.

00:59:47.240 I do think that's important.

00:59:48.420 So, no, I don't think it's just, you know, a post hoc argument that I'm trying to make, but I respect your opinion.

00:59:56.960 Yeah, well, I'm not, again, I'm not trying to beat you up.

00:59:59.700 I'm actually just trying to kind of understand the worldview because there's no, there doesn't seem to be anything higher you're angling towards for this, right?

01:00:07.680 So it's not in and of itself virtuous that you're pursuing the retention of your virginity because that's not why you're pursuing it,

01:00:15.800 but rather because you just don't have any interest in having sex with men, essentially, is what I'm hearing.

01:00:21.980 Is that about correct?

01:00:23.260 No, that is correct.

01:00:24.500 I mean, what would you say, like for you, what would you say is your position as far as the virtue is concerned so that I can understand where you're coming from?

01:00:32.380 Well, so generally, especially in modernity, a good sign of female virtue is the intact chastity.

01:00:42.700 And so especially because that's under assault constantly, you'll note that women will often lose their virginity and then go and tell their friends they should do the same thing, right?

01:00:52.100 It's like once the thing is gone, they almost want to kind of lead a train of women to also lose that virtue as well.

01:00:58.820 And so I think that often from the religious angle, there's kind of a higher value here of chastity if I'm holding out for the right person because I'm pursuing the virtue of what it is to be chaste.

01:01:12.940 But this is a different thing altogether.

01:01:15.500 This is not I'm holding out for the virtue of the thing or because I have some command that I'm following which is higher than me,

01:01:22.120 but rather I just don't like I'm just not attracted to men, so I don't want to have sex with them, right?

01:01:28.820 So it just seems like it's a totally different kind of angle that I'm not used to hearing.

01:01:33.320 So I wanted to kind of dive into it a little bit.

01:01:35.820 Yeah, of course.

01:01:36.540 No, that makes sense.

01:01:38.820 Yeah, I don't know.

01:01:39.740 I would say for me.

01:01:40.280 So I found it peculiar, right?

01:01:42.440 And I'm going to bring this up too because I found it peculiar that there was an article run on this.

01:01:47.280 And I think that if it had been a Christian woman who had kept her chastity intact, no such article would have been written that nobody would have given a shit.

01:01:56.340 But because you're coming at it from a secular angle, I think that they were more curious about it.

01:02:01.000 So that's why I'm curious about it, right?

01:02:03.320 Yeah, totally.

01:02:04.120 I understand.

01:02:04.680 I feel like I am kind of in a league of my own with this one.

01:02:10.100 I know it is, but usually it's one or the other.

01:02:12.120 You're either very traditional and, you know, saving yourself for a husband, and I think that's great.

01:02:19.260 Or it's, you know, you're...

01:02:20.980 Yeah, but why do you think that's great?

01:02:23.100 I think it's great.

01:02:23.980 Well, so for me, I mean, I think it's great, again, to be intentional who you share your body with.

01:02:27.760 And I think it's great to...

01:02:29.760 But, I mean, isn't a prostitute intentional about who she's sharing her body with?

01:02:33.320 Yeah, that's fair.

01:02:34.640 That's a good point.

01:02:35.880 I think, well, I think just for me, like, I don't...

01:02:39.640 That just, that lifestyle just does not appeal to me.

01:02:41.900 That modern lifestyle.

01:02:42.840 Well, that I can agree with, right?

01:02:44.420 The lifestyle just doesn't appeal to you.

01:02:46.020 I understand that.

01:02:47.300 But see what I mean by, like, the post hoc justification?

01:02:49.960 When you say things that are kind of empty, like, I think that you should be very conscientious of who you share your body with.

01:02:56.460 I'm not confident that, you know, like, working girls are not sure who they're sharing their body with, right?

01:03:02.840 And so this is why I don't want there to be any confusion that there's some type of, like, virtue which is being pursued here, because that's not what's going on.

01:03:15.460 And so I wanted to dive into why is this actually being pursued?

01:03:20.220 Because it seems almost maladjusted in a way, right?

01:03:24.120 Okay.

01:03:25.140 I think...

01:03:26.180 I get you.

01:03:27.680 I understand what you're saying.

01:03:28.560 I think for me, it's just I operate based on what feels right for me.

01:03:33.780 So societally speaking, like, yes, it's very unconventional.

01:03:38.060 It's a very unconventional path.

01:03:39.560 I'm not trying to be a virgin forever.

01:03:41.300 I'm not trying to, like, promote this lifestyle of everyone should be a virgin in their 30s.

01:03:46.260 But basically what I'm saying is, like, it's okay to be on your own timeline and to kind of step outside of that, you know, the assumed way that it should be.

01:04:00.860 I think, like, for me, if something doesn't feel right, I'm not going to do it.

01:04:04.780 If someone doesn't feel right for me, I'm not going to date them.

01:04:07.660 And I just haven't met someone yet that I connect with on that level.

01:04:10.720 So, therefore, I'm not going to do anything with them because that doesn't feel right for me.

01:04:15.900 Is there a feeling of empowerment?

01:04:18.300 I do feel empowered by that.

01:04:19.840 Yeah, I do.

01:04:20.560 For sure.

01:04:22.160 Not in, like, a super, super modern feminist way.

01:04:26.680 But, yeah, I do feel empowered by that.

01:04:28.520 I feel like it empowers me to make choices that are aligned with my intuition versus what is expected.

01:04:38.420 For sure.

01:04:39.060 I think everyone should be empowered by the choices that they make.

01:04:43.580 But, yeah, I do feel empowered by that.

01:04:44.740 And it also delineates you from other women, right?

01:04:47.420 So that would bring in additional attention, correct?

01:04:51.580 Attention in what way?

01:04:53.460 Well, I mean, in all ways, right?

01:04:55.400 I mean, most women aren't having articles written about them because of their chastity.

01:04:59.500 You know what I mean?

01:05:00.320 Right.

01:05:00.700 So in some ways it sets you apart in a way that would also bring in more attention, doesn't it?

01:05:06.000 Did you say tension or attention?

01:05:07.840 Attention.

01:05:08.240 Attention.

01:05:08.980 Okay, sorry.

01:05:09.400 I thought you said tension.

01:05:11.140 Attention.

01:05:11.760 Yeah, for sure.

01:05:12.560 I mean, I like attention.

01:05:14.660 I quite enjoy it.

01:05:16.240 And it's nice.

01:05:17.200 It's nice that I can get attention for something that I just am doing as is.

01:05:22.800 You know, that's nice.

01:05:23.820 I like being a voice for people also who live similarly to me.

01:05:28.380 Since creating content around this, I've gotten so many messages from people all over the world who are living similarly to me and aren't as vocal about it.

01:05:39.560 And I love being able to be a voice for those people who feel ashamed about it because I don't think there is anything to be ashamed of when it comes to being a virgin, even if you're older.

01:05:49.120 So would it be fair to say then, just to ask you directly and bluntly, would it be fair to characterize at least some of the motivation behind this as being empowerment and attention?

01:06:00.600 Some of the motivation behind me being a virgin?

01:06:05.400 Staying that way, yeah.

01:06:08.960 No, I don't think so.

01:06:10.280 I think the attention is a nice byproduct of that.

01:06:13.600 But I don't, I'm definitely not doing this for, I'm not doing this solely for attention and I'm not going to hang on to this for attention.

01:06:22.660 Well, no, no, I don't mean solely.

01:06:24.320 I would not.

01:06:25.160 You mean a part of it.

01:06:25.980 Some motivations that people have are usually very, very complex, at least inside their own heads.

01:06:30.680 Even if on the surface they don't seem complex, they're usually complex.

01:06:33.640 Yeah, that's true.

01:06:34.300 I'm just asking for a part.

01:06:35.820 But is part of this the fact that there is a tension and a feeling of empowerment that comes with the idea of staying a secular virgin just for the sake of doing so?

01:06:49.440 I'll give you a part, yeah, sure.

01:06:51.420 A part of it is, yes.

01:06:54.180 Yeah.

01:06:54.540 Gotcha.

01:06:55.100 Yeah.

01:06:55.480 And the reason I ask is because people have, they have characteristics that define them in the world that people can point to pretty easily, right?

01:07:03.840 Yeah.

01:07:04.020 Very, very good-looking people, for instance, are usually defined by how good-looking they are.

01:07:09.440 Very ugly people are usually defined by how ugly they are.

01:07:12.140 Very quickly, it's like a judgment assessment.

01:07:14.200 I don't think anybody would disagree with that.

01:07:16.600 People who are very wealthy are usually identified by their wealth, right?

01:07:20.640 In fact, you'll even hear it said, you know, if somebody's very wealthy, a person might say, man, yeah, I know that guy and he's super rich.

01:07:27.680 They just like kind of throw it in as an identifier.

01:07:30.440 Yeah.

01:07:30.560 And so in this case, I just want to make sure that, has this become really a keynote part of your identity?

01:07:41.520 I think that would be a fair assessment, yeah.

01:07:43.660 At this age, I feel like it has become a part of my identity, sure.

01:07:47.340 Yeah.

01:07:47.520 So it's not the pursuance, really, of virtue, but the fact that pursuing this path has now become part and partial of your identity and all of the things which come with that.

01:07:59.260 Is that correct?

01:08:00.340 That's fair.

01:08:00.780 But I also feel like I'm not afraid to lose that identity in order to further this attention or, you know, the positive aspect.

01:08:11.920 Well, you can see from the external position, the person who's looking at this, you can say that.

01:08:18.580 You can say, well, I'm not afraid of losing this identity.

01:08:21.620 Mm-hmm.

01:08:51.620 And empowerment and the feeling of being in control and things like that, right?

01:08:56.180 Yeah.

01:08:56.740 I think that's fair.

01:08:59.000 I guess I honestly would, I feel like a lot of this stuff that I'm talking about, people really do have to take my word for it.

01:09:05.180 I mean, I know last time I was on the podcast, everyone thought, not everyone, obviously, but a good majority did think that I was lying.

01:09:12.400 So, yeah, unfortunately.

01:09:13.820 I don't think you're lying.

01:09:14.860 Okay.

01:09:15.560 Thank you.

01:09:15.980 Yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't think you're lying.

01:09:18.320 I, so the thing is, is the reason I try to understand the worldview is because when I, when I push in a message, I'm usually looking at the idea of the consequence of virtue in society.

01:09:31.920 And while I'll be perfectly honest with you and I don't see any particular virtue in you staying chaste because the motivations behind staying chaste are not virtuous, I, I still think that it's, it's interesting enough that I wanted to comment on it and discuss kind of the idea behind it, right?

01:09:50.200 Yeah, no, I appreciate it.

01:09:51.720 Yeah.

01:09:51.900 Thank you.

01:09:52.540 Yeah.

01:09:53.140 All right.

01:09:53.580 That's all I had, right?

01:09:54.740 Right.

01:09:55.340 All right.

01:09:55.900 I have a couple follow-up questions here and then we'll get into some of more of the pre-show notes.

01:10:01.540 So, Lauren, you did say you've never dated anyone, very selective in what you're looking for, virgin, straight, asexual, leaning, but no affiliation.

01:10:10.920 Well, okay.

01:10:11.460 Um, you said, uh, so if the right guy came into your life, how quick would you have sex?

01:10:20.320 How quick would I have sex?

01:10:22.540 Uh, be a couple months, probably.

01:10:24.920 A couple months?

01:10:25.840 Okay.

01:10:26.080 Maybe like two.

01:10:27.200 Two months?

01:10:27.740 Two months.

01:10:28.160 It seems like a good time.

01:10:29.960 Okay.

01:10:30.820 I don't know.

01:10:32.520 Oh.

01:10:34.320 Back underscore to underscore the underscore roots donated $1,000.

01:10:38.760 Pop champagne.

01:10:41.300 Let's have a great show.

01:10:42.920 Thank you, man.

01:10:43.680 Uh.

01:10:43.960 Let's have a great show and also, since I, I'm here, I can't be there having the champagne and normally I'm the guy who polish off the, you know, the bottle.

01:10:53.500 So, I'll make sure that I have a drink with everybody.

01:10:56.040 He's going to have a drink, so, uh, yes.

01:10:58.860 That was nice.

01:11:00.620 Appreciate it.

01:11:01.620 Back to the roots.

01:11:02.380 You're, you're a legend.

01:11:03.540 He's a brave and a decent man.

01:11:05.200 He's a pioneer.

01:11:06.280 Thank you, man.

01:11:06.780 Appreciate it.

01:11:07.360 Uh.

01:11:08.760 So, Nick is getting, give me the small one, not the big champagne bottle.

01:11:13.940 If, uh, if somebody sends in the second one, we'll, we'll pop the, we have a gigantic champagne bottle.

01:11:19.640 Uh, so, we'll do that one.

01:11:20.920 Really appreciate it, man.

01:11:21.660 Thank you for the champagne pop.

01:11:23.160 Big thousand dollars, man.

01:11:24.400 You're a legend.

01:11:25.080 Thank you, dude.

01:11:25.980 Just do a big one.

01:11:26.880 Go big.

01:11:27.160 Let's get cups.

01:11:28.840 Can we get?

01:11:29.860 Thousand.

01:11:30.460 No, no, no, no, no.

01:11:31.160 Those are for me.

01:11:31.780 I want the, the white ones.

01:11:33.600 I'm very selective about the champagne, the, the cups.

01:11:36.900 The white cups you share with your champagne.

01:11:39.880 They get the poverty cups from, from here on.

01:11:42.360 No, I'm kidding.

01:11:43.800 Here, Maddie, you get this going.

01:11:46.620 Raise your hand if you want one.

01:11:48.320 Can I get a towel, please?

01:11:51.640 Are you?

01:11:52.400 All right.

01:11:52.720 Uh, well, I think she's the only one who's not 21, so.

01:11:58.720 We'll do this.

01:11:59.480 We have a question back to you, Lauren.

01:12:00.960 Yes, ma'am.

01:12:02.080 So, and going back, it's like really intriguing for me to hear all that.

01:12:06.220 And like, so question on it, like, you're going to wait two months if it does come down

01:12:10.460 like, how would you know what it feels like if you've never felt like that before?

01:12:14.120 And if so, what do you think it would feel like if you did come across it?

01:12:17.680 Uh, I feel like it, I, I think it's just something that, you know, um, I know myself really well.

01:12:25.460 I feel like I would just know if someone was for me in that way.

01:12:29.920 Um, and yeah, I just, I feel like just lead with that.

01:12:34.420 I mean, like I said, I mean, I, I very like intuitive person.

01:12:37.860 So I feel like across the board, like I just know if something's for me or not.

01:12:41.860 I move pretty quickly.

01:12:42.840 Do you ever get horny?

01:12:43.980 That's what I was going to add.

01:12:44.960 I was wondering, do you have any, do you have sexual thoughts?

01:12:48.920 Yeah, for sure.

01:12:49.740 Yeah.

01:12:49.900 I'm not like completely like devoid of that.

01:12:54.320 Um, yeah, no, for sure.

01:12:55.580 Okay.

01:12:55.860 Yeah.

01:12:56.160 So like, is it like when you say you do get horny?

01:13:00.960 Yeah.

01:13:01.200 Is it self-pleasure?

01:13:02.300 Yeah.

01:13:02.520 Or is it, okay.

01:13:03.220 Yeah.

01:13:03.680 Do you like watch videos and stuff?

01:13:05.080 No, not really.

01:13:05.960 Not really.

01:13:06.180 So it's just like all in the mind.

01:13:07.360 Yeah, basically.

01:13:08.120 Okay, cool.

01:13:08.900 Do you read books?

01:13:09.820 Do you read romantic novels?

01:13:11.720 I can dabble with a little novel or erotica, I guess.

01:13:17.400 Yeah.

01:13:18.460 So not being sexually active or not being in that area, what are some fantasies that you

01:13:23.440 would say pop up into your head to make your like self?

01:13:26.720 Oh, honestly, I'm like super vanilla with that.

01:13:29.000 I feel like I don't really have anything too crazy.

01:13:30.920 I feel like literally, it's basically just like picturing being with someone who you

01:13:35.840 are into, who's into you, who cares about you, who wants to protect you.

01:13:39.500 Like very vanilla, nothing like crazy at all.

01:13:42.620 Very.

01:13:42.980 So what are your standards exactly?

01:13:45.900 My standards?

01:13:46.900 Well, I would say the first standard is first and foremost, again, the energetic connection

01:13:52.880 that you would feel with someone.

01:13:55.520 Without that, I feel like nothing else matters.

01:13:58.920 It's knowing that someone is, it's just a knowing that someone is for you.

01:14:03.580 And then on top of that, I would say there's other non-negotiables for me as well.

01:14:09.320 Here, let's do a quick cheers.

01:14:11.940 Cheers to Roots.

01:14:13.240 Salud.

01:14:13.980 Cheers.

01:14:15.020 Cheers.

01:14:15.660 Cheers.

01:14:16.600 Cheers to me.

01:14:17.360 Cheers to taking a shot.

01:14:18.860 Andrew's taking a shot.

01:14:20.140 There we go.

01:14:20.860 Yes, Andrew.

01:14:21.380 That's a double shot, by the way.

01:14:23.840 What a legend.

01:14:24.740 So, okay, what are your, because, so what are your standards exactly?

01:14:31.980 You said energetic connection.

01:14:33.320 Well, it has to be the connection first and foremost, 100%.

01:14:35.460 I feel like without that, nothing else matters, because you could put like the most conventionally

01:14:39.760 attractive person in front of me, millionaire, and if I don't feel it with someone, I'm not

01:14:44.400 going to pursue that.

01:14:46.220 However, other non-negotiables outside of that are going to be, wealth and status are important

01:14:53.600 to me.

01:14:54.900 Sure.

01:14:55.900 100%.

01:14:56.540 I would say someone who is masculine and dominant, but also can balance and temper that, and isn't

01:15:05.520 an extreme, you know, complete macho thing happening.

01:15:10.340 I would say someone who has depth to them, someone who is maybe more, a little bit, has

01:15:16.800 at least some, like, spirituality.

01:15:19.060 I don't want anything, again, too extreme, but that has to have depth to them, intelligent,

01:15:25.440 great sense of humor.

01:15:28.320 Definitely more conservative, for sure.

01:15:30.540 Has to like guns.

01:15:31.820 I like guns.

01:15:32.660 Um, and, uh, also someone who is, stands up for what they believe in.

01:15:41.220 Um, I won't specifically say the word, but didn't get the injection.

01:15:46.460 Okay, we get it.

01:15:47.140 Yeah.

01:15:47.960 Well, can I, can I ask a follow-up here?

01:15:50.360 I'm just curious about, uh, because of this motivation of essentially just, uh, not really

01:15:56.380 having much attraction to men and things like this, let's assume for a second that you kind

01:16:00.640 of did meet Mr. Perfect, who fit all of the quality of criteria that you have, right?

01:16:05.420 The qualities and criteria.

01:16:07.020 Mm-hmm.

01:16:07.840 Uh, you know, the physical aspect of a relationship for men is extremely important.

01:16:13.200 Do you think that he would, um, would think that there's a good possibility that, uh, even

01:16:19.520 if, you know, you, you married him and this and that, that there would be trouble in that

01:16:23.620 department because of this kind of, like, uh, asexuality which you have?

01:16:27.380 I don't think so, um, because if I were to be in a relationship, I think you could assume

01:16:33.700 that I would, wouldn't have a problem with someone, I wouldn't have a problem having

01:16:37.980 sex with someone that I was dating because I would have already kind of cleared that.

01:16:42.780 Like, I would be, um, I wouldn't date someone that I wasn't not going to have a relationship

01:16:48.760 with or a sexual relationship with.

01:16:51.680 Yeah, well, I'm talking from their perspective.

01:16:54.480 Do I think that they would question my choices?

01:16:56.780 That they would assume that there's a good possibility that if you've waited this long

01:17:00.800 and it was not for the sake of, like, uh, of virtue, virtue-based chastity, uh, but rather

01:17:06.240 through kind of, like, um, uh, almost a social awkwardness, if you will.

01:17:10.920 And I know I'm paraphrasing this incorrectly.

01:17:12.700 I'm not trying to, uh, to do that or be, I'm just trying to, there's no good way for

01:17:17.200 me to put it into words without it seeming offensive, right?

01:17:20.100 But I'm not, I'm not trying to be offensive.

01:17:21.700 But based, uh, based along kind of the idea of the social awkwardness rather than the

01:17:26.600 ideal of virtue, don't you think that it could be apparent to many men, even if they were

01:17:32.100 wanting a virgin, uh, that they may want to rule you out as, um, there's a good possibility

01:17:38.060 that due to this, due to these kind of standards that you have and the asexuality, which you

01:17:42.700 present that you may not be good for their physical needs.

01:17:45.440 Does that kind of follow?

01:17:47.420 Yeah.

01:17:47.800 I mean, it's definitely possible that that would be an issue for, for a man, for sure.

01:17:52.300 Um, I would say, like, in terms of the asexuality thing, it's not really a label that I personally

01:17:58.420 lead with.

01:17:59.620 I feel like it's just not something, I used to say that I was asexual, it's just not

01:18:03.720 something that I, I personally resonate with as much anymore, despite, um, having the infrequent

01:18:09.540 attraction.

01:18:09.960 I think that's really the only thing that kind of lingers for me with the asexual label.

01:18:14.860 But, um, yeah, I mean, I, I totally think it's fair that someone would be skeptical and,

01:18:21.200 um, question, you know, if I'm not doing it for virtue purposes.

01:18:27.400 Um, although I do think it is virtuous.

01:18:28.920 Well, the reason I say that for virtue purposes is we assume that the pleasures of the flesh

01:18:34.600 are things that men and women both want.

01:18:36.400 And I think they are, right?

01:18:38.200 I mean, I don't, I don't think most of the women here would disagree with that, or most

01:18:42.100 of the men who are watching would disagree with that.

01:18:44.420 And where the virtue comes in is that you're denying yourself that pleasure, right?

01:18:48.220 But you definitely want it and you seek it and it's definitely something that, uh, that

01:18:52.500 you would prefer to have if you could.

01:18:54.680 And so it's denying yourself this, that, that is the kind of virtuous aspect of this and leads

01:19:01.200 a person to value chastity as, um, as, as a virtue, right?

01:19:06.760 That's, that's kind of what the principle is, but it's just being avoided because of like,

01:19:10.820 due to social awkwardness and, uh, you know, what, what you would kind of say is a limited

01:19:15.280 form of asexuality.

01:19:17.440 Uh, I wouldn't, wouldn't a man almost see that as a red flag, I guess.

01:19:21.700 Sure.

01:19:21.940 Yeah, they totally could.

01:19:22.980 I mean, I would, I would, uh, debate you on the social awkwardness.

01:19:28.260 I don't feel that I'm a socially awkward person.

01:19:30.020 I understand that you're just trying to find the right word for it and it's not an easy thing.

01:19:33.700 Well, in this department, in this department, it would be socially awkward, right?

01:19:37.000 Sure, but I...

01:19:37.100 Like, for instance, for instance, um, the men who you would ordinarily be attracted to

01:19:41.360 who approach you, that's going to be a socially awkward situation, right?

01:19:44.840 Because you're like, well, I just don't have attraction for any men.

01:19:47.040 I'm not kidding.

01:19:47.780 It's not you, really.

01:19:49.060 It's just, I just really don't find many men attract.

01:19:51.480 That's got to be socially awkward, right?

01:19:53.540 No, I hear you.

01:19:54.280 I feel like I don't, I don't mean, I don't straight up say that.

01:19:56.720 I would just say like, I'm not interested.

01:19:58.060 I keep it pretty, um, low key, um, but I, I, I mean, yeah, of course it's uncomfortable

01:20:04.120 to reject someone, but I don't, I don't feel that, I don't feel that I'm awkward about it.

01:20:10.440 I think, um, I have a pretty good way of doing things that aren't that way.

01:20:16.680 Okay.

01:20:17.200 So.

01:20:17.720 All right.

01:20:18.020 Well, thanks, uh, thanks for answering my questions.

01:20:19.800 I appreciate it.

01:20:20.380 Yeah, of course.

01:20:21.020 Thank you.

01:20:21.260 Did you finish all your standards?

01:20:23.040 Did I?

01:20:23.480 I don't know.

01:20:23.880 Let's see.

01:20:24.240 What else do we have?

01:20:25.660 It was a pretty long list.

01:20:26.680 It was a pretty long one.

01:20:27.700 Yeah, it was a lot.

01:20:29.440 Um, obviously physically attractive to me.

01:20:31.320 Again, um, I kind of already mentioned that with the energetic connection to me, those

01:20:35.040 things go hand in hand.

01:20:36.660 Um, I said sense of humor.

01:20:39.300 I said, uh, loves adventures, travel.

01:20:41.640 I'm a very, um, you know, physically adventures.

01:20:46.400 No, physically.

01:20:47.260 Like what are your, Oh, physically, physically speaking.

01:20:50.700 Um, I would say tan.

01:20:56.680 I'm very, uh, white.

01:20:58.700 Um, I would say I like tan skin.

01:21:01.840 Um, definitely on the taller side for sure.

01:21:04.480 Kind of classic answer there.

01:21:06.500 Um, just now I would say like naturally good looking, kind of like the rugged, rugged good

01:21:11.880 looks.

01:21:12.120 I like someone in their forties, um, preferably a little older than me.

01:21:15.880 Um, I would say like seven to 12, 13 years older than me.

01:21:22.380 Oh, sorry.

01:21:22.940 Wait, hold on.

01:21:23.860 Uh, seven.

01:21:25.540 I'm 34.

01:21:26.840 I am 34.

01:21:27.900 I would like to date someone who's like between 40, 45.

01:21:31.980 Wait, wait, wait a second.

01:21:33.160 Somebody is telling me that you have an OnlyFans account.

01:21:35.740 Is that correct?

01:21:36.500 No, that is not correct.

01:21:37.780 I do not.

01:21:38.300 That is not correct.

01:21:38.820 That is not correct.

01:21:39.640 I'm very, uh, anti-OF.

01:21:41.600 I do not have an OnlyFans account.

01:21:43.380 But nice try everyone who ever said that.

01:21:45.300 Nice try.

01:21:45.760 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:21:46.260 I'm not, I'm not making any out of that.

01:21:47.820 I'm just saying that, that this is, this is being stated.

01:21:50.520 So I wanted to clarify.

01:21:51.480 Well, I mean, that's because to be fair, a lot of girls who have OnlyFans will claim

01:21:56.460 that they're a virgin to direct, you know, the audience to their OnlyFans.

01:22:01.000 So you don't have an OnlyFans.

01:22:01.960 I do not have an OnlyFans.

01:22:03.360 Thank you.

01:22:04.560 You want to date a guy who's between 40 and 45?

01:22:07.180 Preferably, yes.

01:22:07.840 Okay.

01:22:08.060 So you wouldn't, now, just to be clear, how stringent are these, because you're 34,

01:22:15.380 you wouldn't date a 37-year-old?

01:22:17.300 Oh, yeah.

01:22:17.800 I mean, that's fair.

01:22:18.580 I just prefer, I like a little bit older.

01:22:20.700 Okay.

01:22:20.940 Just a little bit older.

01:22:21.440 And you said that height, so how tall are you?

01:22:24.220 I am 5'2".

01:22:25.460 What, you said you...

01:22:27.880 How tall would I?

01:22:30.220 Yes.

01:22:30.440 Um, 5'10", to like 6'3".

01:22:35.440 It's like, it's like, build a bear.

01:22:39.280 Yeah, just build a boyfriend.

01:22:40.720 Now, you also said that, I don't know if you specifically said money.

01:22:44.880 Did you say money and status is very important to you?

01:22:47.340 I said wealth and status, yes.

01:22:49.060 Okay.

01:22:49.460 Yes.

01:22:49.760 When we're talking about wealth, what are we talking about here?

01:22:54.040 Um, millions.

01:22:56.320 Okay, so let's, let's break it down like this.

01:23:01.000 So you said you'd date, would you date somebody between the age of 35 and 45?

01:23:05.560 Yes.

01:23:06.040 Okay.

01:23:06.900 35 is a little bit.

01:23:07.320 So this is, I'm assuming here that this person is not retired yet.

01:23:11.360 Mm-hmm.

01:23:11.720 They're still working.

01:23:12.960 Yeah, I guess.

01:23:14.120 Okay.

01:23:14.560 How much, what's their yearly income?

01:23:17.360 Oh, man, I don't know.

01:23:18.880 Millions.

01:23:19.740 Yeah, millions, Brian.

01:23:20.960 I don't know.

01:23:21.540 One million dollars.

01:23:22.780 I honestly don't know.

01:23:24.080 I don't, I'm not like...

01:23:24.940 Well, hold on, but I mean, you're very selective, you have very high standards, so I think you

01:23:30.600 do know.

01:23:32.840 I really, I mean, when I said millions, I thought that was kind of...

01:23:36.780 Well, he, his net worth is millions or he's making millions of dollars a year?

01:23:41.060 Oh, that's a fair question.

01:23:44.700 I mean, preferably making millions of dollars a year.

01:23:50.240 Okay.

01:23:50.480 And now, I'd like, I'd like to point out, Brian, did you notice that inside of these

01:23:55.060 preferences, she never actually mentioned the man's body count?

01:23:58.900 Yeah, I'm happy to clear that up.

01:24:00.340 I actually, I actually don't want to, I wouldn't want to be with a virgin, personally, just not

01:24:05.780 my preference.

01:24:07.700 I think one of us has to know what we're doing, and I would kind of prefer that, that, you

01:24:12.300 know?

01:24:12.980 Well, so going back to the money, though, what's, what is the bare minimum that a guy

01:24:20.800 would have to earn to, a year to date you?

01:24:24.040 Oh, wow.

01:24:24.680 I honestly, I haven't thought about that, to be honest.

01:24:27.880 Well, I mean, you have thought about it.

01:24:29.140 You said wealthy.

01:24:30.560 Right.

01:24:30.880 Right.

01:24:31.060 Wealthy.

01:24:31.440 But I haven't, I haven't quantified it in terms of, you know, a number.

01:24:35.380 Well, do it right now.

01:24:36.220 Okay.

01:24:37.680 Do it right now.

01:24:38.900 I honestly, I don't know.

01:24:42.300 Six figures, seven figures.

01:24:43.960 Yeah.

01:24:44.300 Seven.

01:24:44.560 You know what?

01:24:45.020 Let's just say seven figures, because I honestly, I'm not going to, I'm not going to say like

01:24:48.620 200 million.

01:24:50.340 I don't know.

01:24:50.960 I'm just going to say seven figures.

01:24:52.280 Okay.

01:24:52.620 So should we say bare minimum, $1 million a year?

01:24:57.760 Yes.

01:24:58.600 Yes.

01:24:58.900 Bare minimum.

01:24:59.420 Sure.

01:24:59.560 Okay.

01:25:00.260 And then you said status is important, too.

01:25:03.760 So what does that mean?

01:25:04.940 That, to me, means someone who is successful, maybe someone who is well-known in their fields.

01:25:18.440 That's, yeah, someone who is well-known, probably, who has, you know, connections.

01:25:24.320 And that, to me, is status.

01:25:27.340 Okay.

01:25:27.480 Maybe a little fame.

01:25:28.480 I don't know.

01:25:28.940 Nothing too crazy, but.

01:25:30.420 Okay.

01:25:30.820 I have a question for her.

01:25:36.680 Yes, I thought it was an important point to bring back.

01:25:39.840 I'm sorry.

01:25:40.280 I didn't mean to cut you off.

01:25:42.040 I'm almost on my inquiry.

01:25:43.440 Thank you.

01:25:43.960 No, I was just wondering, like, do you want children and a family?

01:25:47.680 And also, do you feel that you have, like, an expiration date or year to accomplish that,

01:25:53.680 if that is one of your goals?

01:25:55.260 That's a good question.

01:25:56.040 So I actually am untraditional in the sense that I don't want to get married.

01:26:00.820 I don't want to have kids.

01:26:02.480 I would do a long-term relationship, committed long-term relationship, but I don't want to

01:26:06.180 be legally married to anyone.

01:26:08.600 And you don't want kids.

01:26:09.440 And I don't want kids.

01:26:10.400 Wow.

01:26:10.940 Yeah.

01:26:11.100 So it's often stated on this podcast and many others where men investigate the various

01:26:18.560 dating phenomena between men and women, that women seem to not care very much about the

01:26:25.080 body count of men, and men seem to care very much about the body count of women.

01:26:28.780 They view it very differently.

01:26:31.140 But aren't you making kind of the greatest case for that in the world, that here you are

01:26:35.580 with a zero body count, and your statement is, I don't give a shit about the body count

01:26:40.240 of the man.

01:26:41.380 In fact, I would prefer that he had some bodies under his belt so he knew what he was doing.

01:26:46.840 Yeah, that's totally fair.

01:26:48.600 I do think a lot of the time when you're a virgin, people would assume that you would

01:26:54.420 also want to be with another virgin.

01:26:56.620 I think that's a fair assumption to make.

01:26:59.660 But yeah, personally, I don't want to be.

01:27:03.320 Well, that's not really my assumption.

01:27:05.140 My assumption is that if you're a man who's a virgin, you'd prefer a virgin.

01:27:08.200 And if you're a man who wasn't a virgin, you'd prefer a virgin.

01:27:11.660 But that if you're a female who's a virgin, you don't really fucking care.

01:27:15.440 It's not an important aspect to women, whether or not men are virgins or not.

01:27:23.120 That would be kind of my position on that.

01:27:24.960 Yeah, 100%.

01:27:25.640 I definitely agree with that.

01:27:26.660 I think I've kind of learned that from watching even podcasts like this.

01:27:32.160 I feel like that does resonate with me.

01:27:34.120 That does make sense.

01:27:34.820 I feel like that is true for me as well.

01:27:36.160 So, yeah, for sure.

01:27:37.940 Okay.

01:27:39.060 Andrew, I have a comment or a question about the body count thing.

01:27:42.700 Personally, I don't care how...

01:27:44.940 I don't think it's...

01:27:45.900 I think it's crude to talk about that.

01:27:47.760 I don't know why people these days talk about that.

01:27:50.320 I don't...

01:27:51.000 I would never ask a guy that.

01:27:52.480 Because it's extremely important when it comes to dating.

01:27:54.820 I think...

01:27:55.240 And when you're doing partner selection.

01:27:57.100 When it's...

01:27:57.720 Whether you've been with one person or 100 people, I think that's very private.

01:28:01.500 I would never ask somebody that.

01:28:03.100 If somebody talked about that, no matter what the number was, if they were, like, proud

01:28:07.260 of it or whatever, I just...

01:28:08.960 I don't think I would talk to them because they're talking about it.

01:28:12.000 I don't think it's private.

01:28:12.280 If a man had been prosecuted multiple times for domestic abuse, would you consider that

01:28:19.480 to be something which was pertinent for you to know?

01:28:22.640 Yes.

01:28:23.560 How come?

01:28:24.740 There's...

01:28:25.100 It doesn't mean that he's going to...

01:28:26.400 Because he has a...

01:28:26.740 Hang on, hang on.

01:28:27.820 It doesn't mean that he's going to domestically abuse you.

01:28:30.760 Why do you feel like it's pertinent for you to know that information?

01:28:34.280 Because I'm...

01:28:34.860 It's, like, informed consent.

01:28:36.520 You know?

01:28:36.880 Like, I need to know that that's a potential risk in my relationship.

01:28:40.380 Right.

01:28:40.660 So, because it's throwing out red flags for risk, right?

01:28:44.200 Why would body count be any different than that?

01:28:46.720 Because are you talking about risk as far as STD?

01:28:49.240 Because there could be...

01:28:50.180 Not just STDs.

01:28:51.260 But there's all sorts of other risks which come with it.

01:28:55.140 For instance, if two virgins get married, the chances that they'll stay married are really,

01:28:59.920 really, really good.

01:29:01.660 Really good.

01:29:02.980 And when it comes to women who are highly promiscuous, who have more than 20 partners,

01:29:07.300 the chances that they're going to stay with their significant other, really, really, really

01:29:12.360 bad.

01:29:13.320 So, the thing is, is that as we look at the details here, we're using risk assessment models,

01:29:19.300 right?

01:29:19.500 We're trying to assess risk for the same reason that you would want to disclose to you if

01:29:24.280 a man had been charged and is guilty of domestic abuse, even though that does not prove that

01:29:28.860 he would abuse you.

01:29:30.280 Why would that then be wrong for a man to want to know the body count of a woman to assess

01:29:34.620 his own risk?

01:29:35.800 I just don't think it's...

01:29:36.840 I think it's, like, very, like, lewd to talk about.

01:29:40.200 I just think...

01:29:40.800 I don't like it.

01:29:41.600 I don't think it's...

01:29:42.120 Yeah, I think that talking about domestic abuse is pretty lewd, too.

01:29:46.340 But that would be something that you would want to know about, isn't it?

01:29:51.480 It would be.

01:29:52.500 Yeah.

01:29:52.780 But it's just, like, that goes into things, like, you know, like, asking about maybe,

01:29:58.180 like...

01:29:59.180 I don't know.

01:30:00.640 It's just kind of, like, private.

01:30:01.860 Like, some things are private.

01:30:02.800 Like, I think your body's private.

01:30:03.800 And if you have an OnlyFound, that's pertinent.

01:30:07.700 But, like, I don't know.

01:30:09.480 Killing of cereal donated $200.

01:30:12.700 So if the guy is only 5 feet 11 inches and is only $100,000 and is an assistant to the

01:30:18.840 CEO but not the CEO himself, he wouldn't butter your biscuit, what would you bring to the man's

01:30:25.200 life?

01:30:26.380 Oh, man.

01:30:27.900 Your quick response, please.

01:30:29.340 Your quick response would be, I can't say unless I'm able to infer connection there.

01:30:36.640 I'm not sure.

01:30:37.960 Not necessarily true.

01:30:39.600 And what do I bring to a man's life?

01:30:41.120 I would say, like, low body count, decent looking, take care of myself, unproblematic,

01:30:44.760 not a party girl, great personality, easy to get along with, great friends, and, yeah,

01:30:51.040 just a good old-fashioned girl.

01:30:53.920 No body count.

01:30:54.600 No body count.

01:30:55.340 Good girl.

01:30:55.800 Well, I'd like to get back.

01:30:57.980 This convo is very interesting.

01:30:59.720 I appreciated you bringing that up.

01:31:01.340 So as we kind of dive into this, I understand what you're saying, that having conversations

01:31:07.100 which are uncomfortable are, well, uncomfortable.

01:31:10.060 And I can understand why a woman would want to conceal this information because it's very

01:31:14.760 uncomfortable to talk about this information.

01:31:17.840 But I don't know how you could make a case that it wouldn't be pertinent for a man to be

01:31:23.580 informed about the body count of the woman that he wants to date long-term.

01:31:27.920 Why would that not be pertinent information for him to know?

01:31:30.780 Well, I guess it would really depend on what the man's values are and what he considers

01:31:35.640 pertinent information.

01:31:36.780 His values are he just wants to hump chicks who have low body count.

01:31:39.420 That's his only value, let's say.

01:31:40.640 Okay, well, a man like that?

01:31:41.800 Why would that preference in any way be bad in any way?

01:31:46.980 I just don't understand that.

01:31:47.180 It's not bad.

01:31:48.420 It's just like I feel like it's just something that younger people talk about.

01:31:53.780 They just talk about it.

01:31:54.720 They're like, oh, this is my body count.

01:31:55.900 It's just new.

01:31:56.520 People didn't do that when I was growing up.

01:31:58.660 Yeah, they did.

01:31:59.600 Yes, they did.

01:32:00.200 I don't remember that happening.

01:32:01.860 Yes, they did.

01:32:03.280 Here's the thing.

01:32:04.040 You're growing up around the same time that I was growing up.

01:32:06.760 And the thing is, is that we talked about sex all the time.

01:32:09.380 Yeah.

01:32:09.640 We talked about which chicks were hoes.

01:32:11.340 We talked about which chicks weren't hoes.

01:32:13.440 You talked about which men were playboys.

01:32:15.220 You talked about which men weren't playboys.

01:32:17.380 This cope of, well, when I was younger, like you're ancient, like you lived 75 years ago,

01:32:22.920 like you lived 100 years ago, like you lived during the Civil War era 200 years ago.

01:32:26.800 It's all pure coke, right?

01:32:28.520 You were growing up, what, at the latest in the 90s?

01:32:31.360 You think we weren't talking about sex in the 90s?

01:32:33.000 I didn't say not talking about the sex.

01:32:34.820 Hang on, hang on.

01:32:35.240 That is the most ridiculous thing that I've ever heard.

01:32:38.440 No, I didn't say that.

01:32:38.620 All we talked about in the 90s was sex.

01:32:40.660 Yes, but I said, like, I don't remember the specific thing about, like, talking about,

01:32:44.900 like, a body count, like, that being a phrase.

01:32:46.900 Of course you did.

01:32:47.840 Of course you did.

01:32:48.600 And I was in a relationship from 18 to 30, so.

01:32:51.280 What does ho, she's a ho, what does that mean?

01:32:53.820 Yeah, but you're not a tension.

01:32:54.480 Does that mean she has a really low body count, or?

01:32:56.800 Yeah, but you're not, it's just a different verbiage, I guess.

01:33:00.480 Yeah, but it's saying the same exact thing.

01:33:03.120 You're saying, that chick has slept with way more dudes than I'm comfortable with.

01:33:07.540 You're saying the same exact thing, right?

01:33:10.440 Yeah, but you kind of just, like, know that about, like, people in the neighborhood or whatever.

01:33:15.060 You don't, like, write it down on an application, like your number, like your last name, like

01:33:18.560 your social security number.

01:33:19.620 That's what I'm talking about.

01:33:20.440 It's just kind of weird.

01:33:20.980 Okay, so wait, so just, so your objection is that people are more precise with it.

01:33:25.360 So they're like, instead of you just slandering me with a generalization, you want to actually

01:33:32.040 know the details of it so that I can give a possible defense of myself?

01:33:35.960 That seems to me to be absurd, right?

01:33:38.400 That seems counterintuitive.

01:33:40.760 That, like, the precision of it is the objection, not the fact that you did indeed used to talk

01:33:46.280 about it all the time.

01:33:47.340 And let's, like, let's be real.

01:33:49.740 You and your girlfriends in the 90s, you talked about the promiscuous girls in the block, and

01:33:55.140 you talked about the playboys who were around.

01:33:57.440 For sure.

01:33:57.780 Let's not kill ourselves.

01:33:58.520 For sure.

01:33:59.340 For sure.

01:34:00.000 Yeah.

01:34:00.560 Yeah.

01:34:01.920 But, yeah, it just, like, it just wasn't like, oh, did you hear John has slept with exactly

01:34:06.520 17 and a half people or something like that?

01:34:08.760 Like, it was just weird.

01:34:10.240 Yeah, no, it's just implied.

01:34:11.500 So, I mean, it's just, like, it's just, for some reason for you, going around the edges

01:34:17.100 of the thing is more important than the thing itself.

01:34:19.580 It's like, okay, so John has slept with a lot of chicks.

01:34:23.280 We understand that, right?

01:34:24.960 Yeah.

01:34:25.100 Your only objection is the precision with how many chicks he slept with.

01:34:28.820 That seems totally counterintuitive to me.

01:34:31.420 It seems like that would be the information you would want to know more than the generalization.

01:34:35.840 Well, to me, it's kind of like saying, okay, John has slept with 17 and a half people.

01:34:41.760 And that's, like, saying, like, okay, John has a big dick.

01:34:45.300 How do you sleep with a half a person?

01:34:46.880 I mean, I guess you're good.

01:34:48.020 If they're bisexual.

01:34:48.680 I'm just saying it's weird for a number, but I'm just saying.

01:34:50.900 Are we at a magic show?

01:34:52.600 Okay.

01:34:54.020 Saying, like, that's the difference between saying John slept with a lot of people or

01:34:57.940 we know he's a hoe and the exact number versus, like, John has a big dick and then,

01:35:02.140 like, going into detail, like, describing specific things about it.

01:35:05.000 I guess that's my court, like, you know, you could just do one thing.

01:35:09.680 You don't need to, like, go into such.

01:35:10.740 Well, people have very specific.

01:35:12.820 Minutia about it.

01:35:14.220 Well, they have very specific preferences about the things that they want.

01:35:18.420 And in modernity, because there's such a small pool which fits the preferences of so many people,

01:35:24.620 I think they just don't want to waste time.

01:35:26.900 And so they're like, can we just get to the nitty gritty?

01:35:29.060 And instead of us using kind of the generalizations and innuendo and the slander and this and that,

01:35:35.300 they're just up front, right?

01:35:36.480 They're just like, look, lady, how many dudes have you fucked, right?

01:35:40.740 And what they want to know from that, the information that they want to know from that is,

01:35:45.400 are you going to be a good partner for me or are you not going to be a good partner for me?

01:35:48.220 It just seems like a great way to just not beat around the bush and not bullshit, right?

01:35:52.760 Would you not agree that there are many other factors that play into what defines a good partner or not?

01:35:59.060 Absolutely.

01:36:00.120 I would say that the scope of what we're talking about here is so broad.

01:36:05.980 We're taking into account billions of people's individual preferences and this type of thing.

01:36:10.340 But I'm going to caveat this with there are general truths that seem to trend across the board for men and women

01:36:17.840 when it comes to preferences.

01:36:19.120 I'll give you a really basic one.

01:36:21.280 Women tend to like men who are taller than them.

01:36:24.480 In fact, let's just get our show of hands right here.

01:36:27.440 How many women right here at this table prefer that their men are taller than them?

01:36:32.660 All of them, right?

01:36:33.840 Every single one of them, including you, right?

01:36:36.740 Yeah.

01:36:36.960 So now we have kind of these universals which go in too.

01:36:41.180 Now, if you were to insert men into every seat that you're in right now,

01:36:46.280 and I said how many of you would prefer that your women had slept with less than three men,

01:36:51.820 how many of them do you think would raise their hand?

01:36:53.480 Okay.

01:36:53.820 Yeah.

01:36:54.020 I totally see that.

01:36:55.380 Hang on.

01:36:55.620 Answer the question first.

01:36:56.900 All of them.

01:36:57.040 And then give me the qualifier.

01:36:57.800 All of them.

01:36:58.240 All of them.

01:36:58.720 All of them.

01:36:59.440 All of them.

01:37:00.000 So we have some universals here, right?

01:37:01.840 We have some universals.

01:37:03.180 I get that.

01:37:03.860 Yeah.

01:37:04.440 Yeah.

01:37:06.020 Yeah.

01:37:06.340 That's all I'm saying.

01:37:07.420 So it's like, so I want to address the point specifically.

01:37:11.940 But yeah, go ahead.

01:37:12.740 No, I think that's it.

01:37:15.540 I don't have anything else to say about it.

01:37:17.560 Oh, okay.

01:37:18.320 You said it was crude, though, to like, so if a guy were to ask you that on the first date,

01:37:22.740 would that be?

01:37:23.800 Yeah.

01:37:24.260 That's like, I wouldn't ask him to see his bank statement or like, you know, I think

01:37:27.960 there's so many.

01:37:28.480 You'd ask him his job.

01:37:30.080 Yeah.

01:37:30.580 I go to segue.

01:37:31.300 That's normal conversation.

01:37:32.620 But for me, what's more important is like political values, family values.

01:37:36.720 Like that for me, like I was in a two-year relationship.

01:37:39.180 We broke up because we ended up like, it was during, you know, a certain period of

01:37:43.120 time recently.

01:37:43.840 So what would actually be wrong if this was a deal breaker for a guy and this would conceivably

01:37:48.900 save him and you time?

01:37:50.880 What would actually be?

01:37:51.900 If that's a deal breaker for him, then he should for sure proceed with the question and then

01:37:56.560 know what I mean.

01:37:56.800 Now the question is, though, would it be a deal breaker for you that he even asked it?

01:38:00.680 Um, well, that's what I was kind of trying to say is like, even not asking, but people

01:38:06.820 are just, I've seen people like post like just like about their body count or talk about

01:38:10.760 it and in a, in a not dating situation, like just in a public situation.

01:38:15.240 And I just think that's kind of like, yeah, I don't think I would, I would be inclined

01:38:19.140 to want to talk to somebody who thought that was like a neat topic to like talk about.

01:38:24.240 It's kind of private.

01:38:24.940 You know, I think, um, I, I, I, again, I understand the social taboo nature of the thing that you're

01:38:31.620 kind of appealing to here, but I think, you know what I think?

01:38:35.580 I think that men, the more men I talk to, I, I, I get this kind of belief more reinforced.

01:38:41.720 I think that if a woman, let's say she had a really high body count, if she sat down on

01:38:46.840 her first date with a man and she said, look, I fucked a lot of things up in my life, including

01:38:51.920 the fact that I slept with way more dudes than I should have.

01:38:55.480 Right.

01:38:55.960 And I'm not going to do this anymore.

01:38:58.020 And I'm going to be a good wife for the man who I end up marrying.

01:39:02.620 And I fucked this all up.

01:39:04.740 Okay.

01:39:05.560 I think that men would have 20 times more respect for those women.

01:39:09.980 I agree.

01:39:10.640 The ones who go, none of your business, it's not your concern.

01:39:13.640 And they beat around the edges and this and that.

01:39:15.840 I think if they were just direct and said, look, I fucked it all up, but I'm ready to

01:39:20.240 un-fuck it all.

01:39:21.260 I think most men would be like, all right.

01:39:24.900 Oh no, I totally agree.

01:39:26.680 I mean, I can't disagree with that statement.

01:39:29.660 I think that's totally true.

01:39:30.960 I think people can change a lot.

01:39:33.480 I've certainly changed a lot from like 18 to now.

01:39:36.180 Thank you, Josh.

01:39:37.020 Go ahead.

01:39:37.700 Okay.

01:39:38.080 Continue.

01:39:39.200 You know, I got with my...

01:39:41.340 Do you know why, do you know why men would respond better to that?

01:39:45.380 Do you know why that is?

01:39:46.140 Yeah, because it's honesty and...

01:39:48.640 No, it's not because it's honesty.

01:39:50.540 Accountability?

01:39:50.940 It's because it's a sign of accountability.

01:39:53.160 Oh, there you go.

01:39:53.780 It's a sign of accountability.

01:39:55.620 It's a sign of you saying, I can recognize when I make horrible mistakes and I can correct

01:40:01.380 them so that those mistakes never happen again.

01:40:04.180 And it's so rare for men, at least the ones that I've talked to, to actually run into women

01:40:09.980 who take accountability for anything.

01:40:12.860 And that, I think, is why you would earn this really key note of respect.

01:40:17.120 He would actually earn respect with the honesty rather than I have to find out later and all

01:40:21.680 this bullshit.

01:40:22.500 You know what I mean?

01:40:23.460 Yeah.

01:40:24.020 And I don't think it's something that you shouldn't talk about in a relationship.

01:40:27.500 I just...

01:40:28.120 I just...

01:40:30.120 The bluntness of it, I guess, right away is this kind of...

01:40:34.140 I think I know what you're saying.

01:40:35.260 You know what I mean?

01:40:35.600 When you go on a date, I can go on countless dates, but never it occurred to me a guy would

01:40:40.540 be like, oh yeah, by the way, what's your body count?

01:40:43.280 Like, there's a conversation where there's going to be like, what is your dating history

01:40:47.700 or background look like?

01:40:49.360 It's not going to be bluntly like, how many people have you fucked?

01:40:53.280 Yeah.

01:40:53.720 I don't like that.

01:40:54.780 I just don't like that.

01:40:55.620 So you never sat down on a date and asked, well, how much money do you make?

01:40:59.160 I've never asked that.

01:41:00.360 I feel like that goes in, like, with certain dates.

01:41:02.380 No, no, no.

01:41:02.620 You must have been around the bush, but what you're asking is how much money do you make?

01:41:05.320 When you ask, what is your career?

01:41:06.600 What is your career trajectory?

01:41:07.960 What are the things that you...

01:41:09.100 What are your goals?

01:41:09.820 What are your aspirations?

01:41:10.680 You're asking the question of, what is the monetary value that you are bringing to the

01:41:16.820 table?

01:41:17.520 Because that's within the line of your preference.

01:41:19.380 And I think that that's fine.

01:41:20.400 But then to say, well, to men, they can't also move towards their preference and be like,

01:41:26.400 well, how many dudes have you fucked?

01:41:28.260 Right?

01:41:28.560 Like, how many?

01:41:29.380 Just be honest with it.

01:41:30.880 Why is that such a taboo for women other than they want to avoid accountability?

01:41:36.220 I don't think it...

01:41:38.200 I don't...

01:41:38.720 For me, personally, I also don't really...

01:41:41.380 Money isn't a top value for me in my compatibility with the man, so I wouldn't ask those kind

01:41:47.240 of...

01:41:47.860 Yeah, really?

01:41:48.500 You're going to date a homeless guy?

01:41:49.460 Let me see your wallet.

01:41:50.100 Like, let me see how much you're working.

01:41:50.760 You're going to date a homeless guy?

01:41:51.700 I wouldn't date a homeless guy in a box who lives out of his car?

01:41:55.540 Because of hygiene issues?

01:41:56.880 Probably not, but I mean...

01:41:58.220 No, he has great hygiene.

01:41:59.260 I'm not going to be like Lauren over here.

01:42:01.240 He just has zero dollars and you're going to have to support him forever.

01:42:02.840 Wealth and status are not on my top five priority list.

01:42:07.100 That's fair.

01:42:08.340 Really?

01:42:08.940 So, just so I get this clear, a homeless guy has really good hygiene, you'd be willing

01:42:13.080 to take care of him forever?

01:42:15.260 No, I didn't say that.

01:42:16.440 I said wealth.

01:42:16.800 No, you didn't say that.

01:42:17.520 So, wealth?

01:42:18.340 So, wealth?

01:42:19.340 Like, extreme.

01:42:20.920 Yeah, the ability to take care of yourself, the ability to make money is on your priority

01:42:24.400 list.

01:42:25.040 It's kind of foolish, in fact, to say that it's not, right?

01:42:28.120 Of course it is.

01:42:29.560 No, I mean, like, you know, a million dollars, I don't have a number.

01:42:34.520 Like, it doesn't matter.

01:42:35.180 So, you'll date a guy who works at McDonald's?

01:42:39.180 I think McDonald's is poison, so I probably wouldn't for health reasons.

01:42:43.240 Not because of the money, right?

01:42:44.740 But, yeah, I would date, like, a ranch hand or somebody that was in school.

01:42:48.560 $6.77 an hour.

01:42:49.180 Yes, 100%.

01:42:50.300 Yeah, so $6.77 an hour worker.

01:42:54.180 Do you want to get remarried?

01:42:56.200 I would like to get married, yeah.

01:42:58.860 But I'm really low maintenance.

01:42:59.800 Well, not remarried, but do you want to get married?

01:43:01.940 I would like to get married.

01:43:02.760 Wait, you're low maintenance?

01:43:03.940 I'm pretty, like, my monthly income with three kids is, like, or my monthly expenses

01:43:08.300 are, like, $2,500.

01:43:10.540 Okay.

01:43:11.300 It's really not.

01:43:12.100 Three kids?

01:43:12.800 Yeah.

01:43:13.280 Okay.

01:43:13.800 Like, we're really, my daughter's work, like, I don't know.

01:43:17.140 It's just not that important to me.

01:43:17.980 Wait, do you get child support?

01:43:19.160 I don't get child support.

01:43:20.180 I never took him to court until recently for some other reason related to my son not liking

01:43:26.200 his girlfriend, but he doesn't pay child support.

01:43:28.980 I see.

01:43:29.240 And that was just last year, and it's been eight years since we've been split up.

01:43:32.220 It's really unfortunate that he doesn't.

01:43:35.380 You know, he's just not a great guy, and it's sad.

01:43:38.560 Okay.

01:43:39.200 Yeah, I understand that.

01:43:41.060 I just, you know, to kind of, I don't mean to belabor the point, but I do think that if

01:43:45.700 you have tons of social responsibilities, in this case three children, that you have

01:43:52.080 to look after, your maternal instinct is there to look after these children, I assume

01:43:56.640 that you love and adore them, and they are the priority of your life, right?

01:43:59.880 Yeah.

01:44:00.720 So, if this is the case, then, of course, why would you want to get together with a bum

01:44:04.380 or with somebody who would, you know, refuse to...

01:44:05.660 I didn't say I want to get with a bum, but I don't need to be with the CEO, you know?

01:44:09.920 Well, but you're kind of playing to the two extremes, right?

01:44:13.840 So, there's a distinction here, though, that we don't need to look at the two extremes of

01:44:19.420 your bum in the street or a CEO to note that you would still probably prefer a guy

01:44:23.600 who made six figures a year.

01:44:25.560 Of course you would.

01:44:26.260 Why wouldn't you?

01:44:26.980 Well, my grandma used to always sound like my grandma.

01:44:28.880 She used to always say you could fall in love with a rich man just as easily as you could

01:44:31.560 fall in love with a poor man, but I don't necessarily find that true.

01:44:35.560 Sometimes I feel like guys with money don't have...

01:44:38.620 They have different priorities than me.

01:44:39.780 They care about status.

01:44:40.800 They care about cars.

01:44:42.340 They care about buying me, like, expensive bags.

01:44:44.840 I don't want that stuff.

01:44:46.160 I really don't like it.

01:44:46.880 What do you want?

01:44:47.160 You want them to care about you, right?

01:44:48.660 They want them to care about me.

01:44:49.700 I would rather have, like, life experiences.

01:44:52.060 I don't have anything fancy.

01:44:54.060 I don't want anything fancy.

01:44:55.080 I think it's a waste of money.

01:44:56.500 But you realize this creates a double entendre for men.

01:44:59.440 The double entendre it creates is, I want a man to be focused on me, care about me, show

01:45:03.640 that he loves and appreciates me.

01:45:05.380 But you can tell men to do that.

01:45:07.540 How do they do that?

01:45:08.380 They usually do it by saying, okay, well, I'm going to go accumulate an amount of money

01:45:14.740 and wealth, and then I'm going to utilize those resources to take care of you.

01:45:19.660 That's how they show that.

01:45:20.860 How they don't show it is by going, oh, baby, you're the best.

01:45:25.080 You're so gorgeous.

01:45:25.880 You're the best in the world.

01:45:27.000 And I can't wait to spend time watching this gay soap opera with you, right?

01:45:31.100 They don't do it that way.

01:45:32.960 Yeah.

01:45:33.660 What they do instead is they focus on the accumulation of resources, and then them sharing those resources

01:45:39.640 with you is how they show that they care a lot about you.

01:45:41.600 Right.

01:45:41.860 But there's, like, douchey rich guys, and there's guys that have money that don't act in a douche

01:45:47.340 bag way.

01:45:48.300 So I think that...

01:45:49.960 Totally agree.

01:45:50.740 You know what I mean?

01:45:51.520 I totally agree.

01:45:52.180 I wouldn't want someone who's, like, flashy, I guess.

01:45:55.480 Like, I wouldn't...

01:45:56.280 You can lie, too.

01:45:57.080 There's a lot of facades nowadays.

01:45:58.460 Like, people will be like, oh, I'm not homeless.

01:46:00.080 I make a lot of money.

01:46:01.200 And then they pull up in a hoopy-doopy, and you're like...

01:46:04.180 There are some things I care about, but then I just...

01:46:08.560 I don't think I would ever put a number, an actual number on how much, like, I need my

01:46:13.180 person to make when there are other priorities.

01:46:14.840 I don't think it's necessary for you to put an exact number to note that if they had all

01:46:21.600 of the qualities and additional money on top of all the qualities...

01:46:25.840 Yeah, it would be nice.

01:46:26.600 It wouldn't hurt.

01:46:27.300 It wouldn't hurt.

01:46:27.960 Right.

01:46:28.240 It wouldn't hurt.

01:46:28.680 But I'm not looking for it.

01:46:30.120 I'm not seeking it out.

01:46:31.700 I feel like you guys are kind of arguing the same point here.

01:46:35.360 I think, like, the whole point in the body count conversation is to say, like, if this

01:46:40.220 man is asking what your body count is, it's not to be, like, vulgar.

01:46:43.120 It's to see, like, okay, if this woman has a high body count, she has some inconsistencies

01:46:47.600 within her dating pattern, so maybe her and I are going to have a short-lived relationship.

01:46:51.600 Based on, like, these frequent people she's sleeping with.

01:46:56.460 But I think it's the same way you would ask, like, how many partners have you had in the

01:47:01.360 past?

01:47:02.040 You would ask, like, oh, what do you do for work?

01:47:03.820 Because these are, like, different value sets that people have, right?

01:47:06.660 But a man would also ask the woman, what do you do for work?

01:47:08.740 So I think that's just general conversation.

01:47:10.620 Right, yeah, yeah.

01:47:11.000 So that would also be within, like, general conversation.

01:47:12.880 Yeah, but wait, wait, hang on.

01:47:14.200 Yeah, I agree that that could be general, you know, general conversation.

01:47:17.580 But that doesn't mean that they're asking each other the same question.

01:47:21.760 Even if it's identically phrased, that doesn't mean they're actually asking each other the

01:47:25.840 same question.

01:47:26.820 They could mean very different things by what they're asking by that question.

01:47:31.740 Yeah.

01:47:32.120 Right?

01:47:32.560 Yeah, and I guess it's also what your intention is when you're dating somebody.

01:47:35.560 Are you dating to just hook up with somebody?

01:47:37.120 Are you dating to have a short-lived romance?

01:47:38.560 Are you dating to get married?

01:47:40.440 I mean, these are all very different things.

01:47:41.920 So some people, you know, might be entitled to a little bit more information than other

01:47:46.780 people regarding maybe even your job and your income, too, you know?

01:47:51.800 Maybe you're just planning on taking this girl out on the boat for a weekend and then not

01:47:56.060 ever talking to her again.

01:47:57.040 So she doesn't really need to know that much about your life.

01:47:59.460 But maybe you want, like, something more serious with her so you would, you know, strive

01:48:02.900 to have more deeper conversations about this.

01:48:04.880 Well, actually, this is a great segue.

01:48:06.160 So I assume that you would think that it was important if a man, his intention was to just

01:48:11.060 sleep with you and then never talk to you again, that he let you know that that was

01:48:14.620 the case.

01:48:17.540 That would be great.

01:48:18.720 I don't think guys do that.

01:48:19.780 Yeah, I mean, that would be fantastic, right?

01:48:21.580 Because otherwise, he would be wasting your time, right?

01:48:24.780 And I think girls should probably do the same thing, like, hey, I'm just here for a good

01:48:28.160 time, or hey, I'm looking for something more serious.

01:48:30.740 Is there something you want to ask me?

01:48:31.840 Sure, if you don't fit my preferences, if you don't fit my preferences of body count,

01:48:35.680 or if you don't fit my preferences of body count, you're wasting my time by not disclosing

01:48:39.180 that information after I find it out later.

01:48:40.420 You guys both have to have the same thing, right?

01:48:42.560 You have to both have the same preferences, the same intentions, and the same values.

01:48:46.020 If not, it's not a good match.

01:48:48.120 So you should both move on anyways.

01:48:50.100 Yeah, right.

01:48:50.500 But to my point, right, if you think that it's pertinent for a man to say, listen, look,

01:48:57.720 baby, my plan here is just to take you out of my yacht, and we're going to bang, and

01:49:02.500 then I'm never going to call you again, right?

01:49:04.980 You would prefer that he was up front with that.

01:49:07.060 That makes total sense to me why you would prefer that, because you don't want your time

01:49:10.980 wasted by some fuckboy, right?

01:49:13.160 Okay, that's fair enough.

01:49:13.980 I think a lot of times...

01:49:15.020 Okay, go ahead.

01:49:16.220 But the flip side to this is, but the same thing is going to apply to a man who's like,

01:49:20.980 look, I really want to know how many dudes you've slept with before I pursue this relationship,

01:49:25.000 because otherwise it's a waste of time.

01:49:26.660 Doesn't that make sense to you?

01:49:27.800 Yeah, it makes sense if the intention for the relationship that they're pursuing with

01:49:34.640 you is more of more value, like a marriage or engagement or long-term dating.

01:49:39.220 Yeah, I guess that makes sense.

01:49:43.160 Okay.

01:49:44.000 But you both have to match on that, is all I'm saying.

01:49:46.220 Maddie, can you read these?

01:49:46.700 I feel like a guy asking for a body count on first date is a green flag to me, because

01:49:52.560 that shows he's looking for more than a hookup.

01:49:55.320 If he just wanted to UF you, he wouldn't bother asking.

01:50:02.580 Yeah, I suppose if he didn't care, then...

01:50:06.220 That's fair.

01:50:07.320 If he wasn't interested in long-term.

01:50:09.180 Not sure that that follows.

01:50:11.760 Yeah.

01:50:12.160 It could just be that he doesn't want to sleep with a chick who slept with a lot of dudes,

01:50:17.980 even if he has no intention of pursuing a relationship.

01:50:20.700 That could also follow.

01:50:22.040 Yeah, it could be true.

01:50:23.980 But I think a guy who just wants to sleep with a girl once is probably less preoccupied with

01:50:28.540 her body count.

01:50:32.540 Yeah, I think that that would be generally true.

01:50:36.240 I would agree with that.

01:50:37.560 Go ahead, Maddie.

01:50:40.120 To the girl from Las Vegas, one of the two mayoral candidates, Victoria Seaman, is suing

01:50:46.060 the city of Vegas for the second time.

01:50:48.480 Ladies, raise your hand if she should be elected.

01:50:50.960 Hashtag peak feminism.

01:50:53.400 What?

01:50:54.940 You're from Vegas.

01:50:56.400 Do you know anything?

01:50:57.120 I don't know anything about this.

01:50:58.080 I have not heard.

01:50:59.240 I don't know if this is like new news.

01:51:01.740 Okay.

01:51:02.060 Well, none of the women raised their hands, so it sounds like it's a no.

01:51:06.780 StreamRift, thank you for the hundred, though.

01:51:08.580 Thank you for bringing Las Vegas local politics into whatever pod.

01:51:13.640 I appreciate it.

01:51:14.960 Go ahead, Steph.

01:51:15.880 Andrew, I hope my future husband is as based as you.

01:51:19.680 Thank you for being a great example of healthy masculinity and also for all you do to help

01:51:25.820 with women wake up to degeneracy.

01:51:28.760 Respect and love from Australia.

01:51:30.380 Yeah, this is a bot.

01:51:32.920 You can tell by the end of what was being stated here that's a bot.

01:51:37.220 Kudos to you, though, Andrew.

01:51:38.320 You definitely made a great statement when you were like, it'd be weird if somebody asked

01:51:41.580 me about my body count and then not make me feel like patronized about like, oh, why is

01:51:46.640 this your body count?

01:51:47.180 It'd be more like, okay, you're taking accountability.

01:51:48.700 So, I see you and I see what your intentions are.

01:51:52.660 That is major than being like, what is your body count and the purpose of like, are you

01:52:00.360 a whore or not?

01:52:01.700 Or like, are you like...

01:52:03.180 Yeah, exactly.

01:52:03.760 Well, exactly.

01:52:04.640 So, like, have you noticed, for instance, okay?

01:52:07.360 And this is, I think that this is the kind of be nice culture that women are subjected

01:52:11.040 to from the time that they're little kids inside of public school.

01:52:14.420 But I'll often ask this question, and you seem like you'll probably give me an honest

01:52:18.660 answer to it.

01:52:19.540 Isn't it true that women, when they sit down at a table with other women, all the time

01:52:23.760 this happens, they basically judge the shit out of each other.

01:52:26.660 They nitpick what each other are wearing.

01:52:28.900 They nitpick their hair.

01:52:30.320 They nitpick their makeup.

01:52:31.660 They don't say it out loud, right?

01:52:33.440 But just in their head, they just like nitpick every little detail.

01:52:37.800 And what I'll often see...

01:52:39.420 You know, go ahead.

01:52:40.080 Go ahead.

01:52:40.340 Answer it.

01:52:40.920 Sorry, I was going to answer you, because it was a question.

01:52:43.040 But yes and no, I feel like it comes with the women that you hang out with.

01:52:46.000 So, like, in my friend group, a lot of us are very much more like, you don't compare

01:52:50.420 our friends.

01:52:51.160 And that's something we literally had a discussion about on the way here, because

01:52:53.520 it's like, hey, I find it insulting that you're going to be like, well, I think you're

01:52:56.260 the hottest friend in the group.

01:52:57.880 Like, ill first, because you're not going to compete with your friends.

01:53:01.240 If you feel like something doesn't look good, that enhances...

01:53:03.300 Okay, hang on, hang on.

01:53:04.160 Let's untangle two ideas.

01:53:05.640 Okay.

01:53:05.880 So, out loud, saying those things out loud, sure, absolutely.

01:53:11.560 I'm asking about what goes on in your brain, right?

01:53:14.920 If it doesn't look good, you better tell me.

01:53:16.940 In your brain, are you really saying that you sit down with your friend group and never

01:53:19.780 make judgment?

01:53:20.540 Like, come on, really?

01:53:22.080 Everybody judges in some capacity.

01:53:24.220 Yeah, of course, of course.

01:53:25.340 That's right, but my ultimate point for bringing this up is to tell you that I know that that's

01:53:31.760 true, and you know that that's true, but so often women will kind of lie and be like,

01:53:36.560 no, I never judge anybody.

01:53:37.600 I'm the most non-judgmental person ever.

01:53:41.840 I've never judged any other woman ever.

01:53:44.040 I am the key point of all that is feminism.

01:53:46.520 You are lying!

01:53:47.320 And I would never, right?

01:53:49.860 I would never do so.

01:53:51.380 And it's like, come on.

01:53:52.940 Are you fucking serious?

01:53:54.360 So, the thing is, it's like, part of what this idea of accountability is, is just to

01:53:59.560 say, like, look, we know that it's true.

01:54:02.300 Just fess the fuck up, right?

01:54:04.320 Be accountable to the things that are actually happening.

01:54:07.840 Is that fair?

01:54:08.840 Yeah.

01:54:09.260 It shouldn't be that big of a barrier for it to be, like, that serious.

01:54:11.520 If it's that serious, then it means it obviously bugs you, or, like, you find it get, like,

01:54:16.560 you find it more, like, attacking, if not, like, controversial.

01:54:21.060 Like, if it's such a controversial thing, then that means it bothers you so much to do

01:54:23.780 it, and if it doesn't bother you, then just, like, okay, this is what it is, and if it's

01:54:26.980 not meant to be, then it's just, like, okay, fuck it.

01:54:29.000 There's more fish in the sea, but this is what it is, and I did fuck and do all this

01:54:34.740 stuff for accountability reasons, but, like, this is what I want in the

01:54:37.160 future.

01:54:37.700 That goes, like, a big, long way, and I think a lot of women don't really see it

01:54:40.540 that way.

01:54:41.020 Like, they just feel like, what's my body now?

01:54:41.760 I think you're right.

01:54:42.600 I think you're right.

01:54:43.320 And the thing is, is, like, you might outright get rejected by such honesty, but the truth

01:54:48.800 is, is at least you have integrity, and that you at least walk away with some fucking

01:54:53.840 respect, right?

01:54:54.900 For real.

01:54:55.420 100%.

01:54:55.940 100%.

01:54:55.980 100%.

01:54:56.600 Andrew, so what about, how about if, like, for me, a bigger, more important issue is, like,

01:55:02.660 abortions.

01:55:04.380 Like, I think, how come guys aren't asking, have you had an abortion?

01:55:07.340 Have you had any abortions?

01:55:08.300 Like, that, to me, would be, like, a really big sign to your point of, like, do I want

01:55:12.100 to marry this woman?

01:55:13.420 That's something that, like, well, no, I'm just relating it to body counts.

01:55:18.500 Wait, but how does that correlate?

01:55:19.980 Yeah.

01:55:20.300 Because I'm saying...

01:55:21.260 I mean, it correlates for the purpose of accountability.

01:55:22.740 You know what I'm saying, right?

01:55:23.920 Okay.

01:55:24.200 Yeah, I do.

01:55:25.100 I do.

01:55:25.500 I think it's a good point, right?

01:55:27.180 Yeah.

01:55:27.440 And it's set to the value structure.

01:55:30.120 Right.

01:55:30.480 So, yeah.

01:55:31.160 I think that if you were with a person or dating a person who was Christian, followed

01:55:35.840 Christian ethics, they likely would want your stance on abortion.

01:55:39.580 Yes.

01:55:39.720 I don't think they'd come right out and ask you.

01:55:41.480 Right.

01:55:41.740 Because sitting down at the first date and saying that you murder babies might be a little

01:55:45.380 over the top, right?

01:55:46.420 Yeah.

01:55:46.720 But I think that they would at least ask your stance on this.

01:55:49.960 Yeah.

01:55:50.280 I think that's what I was getting confused at.

01:55:53.140 Yeah.

01:55:53.400 I was just putting a...

01:55:54.440 Asking, like, not so much.

01:55:54.880 No, I would never ask that on a date.

01:55:56.500 Because I think the typical person...

01:55:57.580 I'm just comparing it.

01:55:58.600 I guess, like, the typical woman's not getting abortions, so I think that's a random question

01:56:01.720 to ask.

01:56:02.140 That's a very specific one.

01:56:03.240 Yeah.

01:56:03.680 I was relating it to the body count question thing.

01:56:06.620 Yeah.

01:56:06.820 What do you mean, the typical woman's not getting abortions?

01:56:08.480 Yeah, I think a lot of women do, and it's really...

01:56:11.440 What does that mean?

01:56:12.280 Yeah, I think the typical woman is getting abortions.

01:56:14.660 I think you're completely wrong.

01:56:15.940 No, I agree.

01:56:16.620 I think that that's very typical.

01:56:18.020 I mean, yeah, I guess...

01:56:18.820 Unfortunately.

01:56:19.760 I think...

01:56:20.240 Yeah, I agree.

01:56:21.260 Wait, is plan B considered, like, abortion?

01:56:22.940 Would you consider that abortion?

01:56:24.140 So, no, there's...

01:56:24.860 I wouldn't consider that.

01:56:24.980 There's some different conversations going around on if, like, plan B is considered an

01:56:28.540 abortion.

01:56:29.040 I would say that, as far as, like, what research has been done, it's a preventative, and it's

01:56:34.580 not considered, like, a termination of pregnancy, and we're talking about abortion.

01:56:38.600 What do you mean it's not considered a termination of pregnancy?

01:56:41.240 Well, what the hell is it?

01:56:42.440 Yeah.

01:56:42.680 Is there a life in the womb?

01:56:44.200 Yeah.

01:56:44.340 Or is there not a life?

01:56:45.180 So, with...

01:56:45.860 I guess with...

01:56:46.500 So, I fundamentally, I don't agree with plan B. Like, I don't agree with it.

01:56:50.400 Yeah, that doesn't answer my question.

01:56:51.660 But I would say that plan B, it...

01:56:54.780 What?

01:56:55.080 It delays ovulation, right?

01:56:56.460 If I'm wrong.

01:56:57.420 It would delay ovulation from occurring.

01:56:59.260 Therefore, fertilization would not have a chance to occur, right?

01:57:03.260 Like, in the case of taking plan B.

01:57:05.020 Is that plan B, or is that the...

01:57:06.720 Yeah, but there's no life in plan B.

01:57:07.840 That's the morning after.

01:57:08.340 Like, there's no kidding you if you have a plan B.

01:57:09.100 Plan B is the morning after pill.

01:57:11.040 Oh, okay.

01:57:11.800 Yeah, we're not talking about, like, mythopristal.

01:57:12.940 There is an abortion...

01:57:13.900 Okay, but there is an abortion pill as well.

01:57:15.340 You're thinking mythopristal.

01:57:15.440 Yeah, that's different.

01:57:16.620 Yeah, mythopristal is the one that terminates pregnancy after fertilization occurs.

01:57:20.500 There are some IUDs that also make the uterus an inhabitable environment, which I disagree with, which takes a fertilized blastocyst and terminates the pregnancy.

01:57:33.060 So, we could argue, like, that, but, yeah.

01:57:37.540 Yeah, yeah.

01:57:37.900 Well, no, no, no.

01:57:38.720 So, my position would just be, for abortion, I think most people from the Christian purview, though mine would be even more extreme than this,

01:57:47.940 I would at least concede to at least the rationale of there is no life there.

01:57:53.800 Now, you could make this...

01:57:54.840 There is.

01:57:55.320 ...kind of as extraneous...

01:57:57.440 No, for plan B.

01:57:58.280 I thought you just said there wasn't.

01:57:59.260 Oh, not for plan B.

01:58:00.060 Sorry.

01:58:00.320 I thought you meant...

01:58:01.120 Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:58:01.200 So, for plan B, I think that you could make this as kind of extraneous as you want.

01:58:05.680 You could say, well, we could get into semen itself being the seed of life and the different religious beliefs around that.

01:58:11.060 Yeah.

01:58:11.220 But I think we could at least stick with the idea that if there's no life present, we, most men would probably say, okay, you're not having an abortion here.

01:58:20.320 Yeah.

01:58:20.820 There's, like, preventative, and then when you're talking abortion, you're talking the actual elective, like, murdering of a baby in utero.

01:58:28.920 So, that's...

01:58:29.400 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:58:29.840 So, but that aside, when she's making the statement, she's actually asking about abortion itself.

01:58:36.660 Yeah.

01:58:36.920 So, she's saying, okay, are you going in and having an abortion done?

01:58:40.500 You said that's not typical.

01:58:41.560 I disagree.

01:58:42.180 I think that's very typical.

01:58:43.000 Yeah, it's very typical.

01:58:43.940 I would say, yeah.

01:58:44.920 I mean, since...

01:58:46.200 I guess in the last decade, yeah.

01:58:47.480 I mean, there have been, what, 70 million abortions that have occurred.

01:58:50.920 Pretty typical.

01:58:51.760 Yeah.

01:58:52.200 And I think per year, it's, like, 2 million.

01:58:54.180 I guess I misspoke on that.

01:58:55.700 I think it's, I think where I caught, like, thrown off was, if, I guess, if I were on

01:59:01.160 a first date and a man asked me if I had an abortion, I guess I'd be thrown off, and

01:59:04.700 of course, I would say no, and that I'm pro-life, but it's just, yeah, I guess I just haven't

01:59:09.960 heard that one before.

01:59:10.680 It was just a comparison.

01:59:11.960 I would, I don't think people are saying that on dates, maybe, and maybe, maybe in the super

01:59:15.160 Christian community, but it was just a comparison for the whole, like, how I was thrown off.

01:59:19.260 I don't think that they would.

01:59:20.300 I think that they would try to gauge what your stance was on it in general.

01:59:25.240 That's good.

01:59:25.940 I think asking.

01:59:26.420 They'd say, what is your stance here on this?

01:59:28.200 Yeah, that's right.

01:59:28.620 And then they could use an inference there, right?

01:59:31.080 I don't even think most men would just come right out and ask you your body count either.

01:59:35.500 They would use inferences first, right?

01:59:37.920 But I don't actually see there being a problem with either question, right?

01:59:42.260 Hey, have you ever had an abortion?

01:59:44.200 Seems reasonable to me.

01:59:45.400 That seems like a reasonable question.

01:59:46.980 You may not like it.

01:59:47.900 It makes you seem uncomfortable.

01:59:48.800 Just like you were saying that the woman who is accountable.

01:59:51.980 Dylan Joe donated $200.

01:59:55.400 Is it fair for your chick to have trust issues with you even if you're innocent and show no

02:00:00.080 signs of being unfaithful?

02:00:02.200 Andrew?

02:00:02.940 All right.

02:00:03.320 That one came in earlier.

02:00:04.840 I'm moving the conversation on.

02:00:07.980 So that TTS came in earlier.

02:00:10.840 Is it fair for your chick to have trust issues with you even if you're innocent and show no

02:00:16.060 signs of being...

02:00:16.760 Is this a question for the women at the table?

02:00:25.860 Or the men on the mic?

02:00:29.220 It sounds like a question for the people.

02:00:30.580 I don't know.

02:00:30.600 These questions sometimes.

02:00:32.460 You can go both ways, I guess.

02:00:33.500 Thank you, Dylan.

02:00:34.660 Is it fair for your chick to have trust issues?

02:00:37.040 No, it's not fair.

02:00:37.960 I don't think so.

02:00:38.800 I don't think it's fair.

02:00:39.660 I don't think it's fair either.

02:00:40.720 That's her own issues.

02:00:41.980 She's bringing into the projecting onto the man.

02:00:44.640 It's kind of like when a chick dreams that you cheated on her and then she holds that

02:00:52.140 shit against you that in her dream you cheated on her.

02:00:57.660 I mean, trust issues come with, like, if you have trust issues and you're, like, openly

02:01:00.300 dating, I feel like you need to, like, secure your own confidence and, like, you can project

02:01:07.040 a lot of your insecurities onto, like, relationships.

02:01:09.780 Yeah.

02:01:10.220 I agree.

02:01:11.320 And then this one came in.

02:01:12.620 Techno Trooper donated $200.

02:01:15.640 How many bodies is too many bodies for a female?

02:01:19.460 What is past the threshold where it is unacceptable?

02:01:24.220 That's a good question.

02:01:25.880 I think it depends on the age.

02:01:28.580 I mean, once you start getting into, I'm not saying it's a 100% deal breaker, but certainly

02:01:35.520 once you...

02:01:36.060 Hang on, hang on.

02:01:36.320 Brian, he said for a female.

02:01:38.280 Right.

02:01:40.600 Right.

02:01:41.120 Yeah.

02:01:41.460 Wait.

02:01:41.960 Like, as in too many bodies?

02:01:43.800 As in from a woman's perspective, how many bodies?

02:01:45.900 Oh, I don't think so.

02:01:46.900 I don't think so.

02:01:47.600 I think it can be read the other way.

02:01:49.760 How many...

02:01:50.200 Too many bodies for a female to have?

02:01:53.220 Yeah.

02:01:53.440 Oh, to have.

02:01:54.500 Yeah.

02:01:54.800 I want to hear yours.

02:01:55.900 I'm curious.

02:01:56.080 I mean, it's not a deal breaker immediately, but I think once you get above 10, then it's

02:02:00.860 an eyebrow raise.

02:02:03.980 What if you have 10 in the time span of you having, from the age that you did have sex,

02:02:09.440 let me just make up a number, 19 to, let's say, like, I'm 26, 10, right?

02:02:13.560 But let's say I'm a 33-year-old virgin, and then I end up discovering sex, and I, like,

02:02:19.560 have, like, 10 or 12 just because I finally let it go, but it also comes with accountability,

02:02:23.960 like Andrew was saying.

02:02:24.800 Yeah.

02:02:24.880 But, like, is it not really such a deal breaker part, or is that too much just because of,

02:02:29.600 like, the time span of it, or is it just because of the experience of you being with

02:02:33.640 10 men?

02:02:35.380 So you said the question is essentially a woman who's had sex with one guy a year for

02:02:40.780 X amount of years versus a woman who's had sex with 10 partners in the span of one year.

02:02:45.640 Is it the time span, or is it the number?

02:02:48.160 Or is it the number?

02:02:48.760 Both.

02:02:49.380 I think we'd look at it, well, I think most of them would look at it the same way, though

02:02:53.780 I think it would throw a greater red flag if they did kind of, like, back to back to

02:02:57.620 back.

02:02:57.920 That would show even less kind of restraint, but I think that they would look at the overall

02:03:02.520 count.

02:03:02.920 So the way I look at it is this.

02:03:04.780 This is an arbitrary metric.

02:03:06.360 I'm not going to deny that it's an arbitrary metric.

02:03:08.380 It's based on preference, right?

02:03:09.700 There's nothing that I can point to where I can say, this is the dyed-in-the-wool metric

02:03:14.700 which every man follows or should follow.

02:03:16.980 But I can say this as a almost definite across the board.

02:03:21.900 The less, the better.

02:03:23.660 And since it is always the case that it is the less, the better, at least in almost all

02:03:28.840 men that I have talked to, then every single time that you have sex with a new man, this

02:03:35.180 is going to lower your value in the eyes of most men.

02:03:38.320 So I would, that's how I would frame it.

02:03:40.760 I couldn't give you an exact number, but I don't think I need to if you know that every

02:03:44.300 single one, above one, makes you worth less, at least in the eyes of men, than if you had

02:03:50.100 zero.

02:03:53.060 Does that make sense?

02:03:54.120 Yeah, it makes sense.

02:03:57.880 But do you also, would you also agree that there are other things that you could bring

02:04:03.500 to the table that could raise your values?

02:04:05.160 So it's kind of like this chart graph of like different things that come together to make

02:04:10.060 a whole?

02:04:10.900 No.

02:04:11.680 So that one's a big deal.

02:04:12.760 I would say, I would say on the issuance of body count and loyalty is what that's pointing

02:04:18.260 to.

02:04:19.040 So let me explain this the best way that I can.

02:04:23.420 Paternity testing is a modern invention.

02:04:25.720 It is something which is very recent.

02:04:27.400 Because before the idea of paternity testing came around, how would a man be able to judge

02:04:33.100 if his offspring was his or if he had been cuckolded and his wife had slept with somebody

02:04:39.180 else, had their offspring, and now this man is raising offspring unwittingly, which is

02:04:43.240 not his own.

02:04:44.260 The only way to really determine that metric would be to have a woman who was a virgin.

02:04:49.180 And the reason that you would want that is because then you know that this woman is devoted

02:04:55.080 only to you.

02:04:57.000 Whereas if she'd had multiple sexual partners before that, it's much more difficult to make

02:05:02.100 the determination she would be with you.

02:05:04.640 And now with paternity testing, we know how many women lie about paternity.

02:05:07.820 It's actually a great many more than we ever thought.

02:05:10.680 So I think that this is something which is hardwired into men for a good reason.

02:05:15.640 Yeah, but just also because a woman's a virgin in a relationship doesn't mean she's not going

02:05:21.420 to cheat on you and go run around and do all that stuff.

02:05:24.960 I think that the likelihood, though, that a woman who is a virgin in a relationship with

02:05:30.120 you does run around is going to be far less than the likelihood of a woman who is promiscuous

02:05:34.860 doing so.

02:05:35.540 Wouldn't you agree?

02:05:37.400 Well, what if you've just awakened this virgin?

02:05:40.220 What if Lauren Harris is some hidden freak and she gets awakened and now she's just...

02:05:45.640 It's like running around town.

02:05:47.040 Wait, wait, hold on.

02:05:48.620 So really quick.

02:05:49.960 So really quick on the whole cheating thing.

02:05:51.800 Really quick on the whole cheating thing.

02:05:53.720 I actually...

02:05:54.500 Me personally, while it can be an indicator for potential infidelity, at least for me,

02:05:59.980 that's not really the primary reason.

02:06:02.260 Frankly, I just think it's gross.

02:06:04.200 Yeah.

02:06:04.440 I can't even articulate precisely why.

02:06:07.080 I couldn't even...

02:06:08.000 Why I actually could.

02:06:09.120 But that's why you think it's gross.

02:06:10.100 It's just disgusting.

02:06:11.480 I can respect that a little bit more.

02:06:13.620 I agree with that opinion more because I can understand that one more.

02:06:17.760 Yeah, but that's why it's disgusting.

02:06:19.240 Don't you understand?

02:06:19.840 The reason that men find it disgusting is because of that hardwired, innate understanding

02:06:25.820 of if you're sleeping with multiple men, I cannot determine offspring.

02:06:29.180 That's why it's disgusting to men.

02:06:31.200 That's why they find it gross.

02:06:32.700 It's not enough to just say it's gross.

02:06:35.440 The justification for it is very simple.

02:06:38.000 And so when we dive into this, I'd like to engage directly with your argument.

02:06:41.100 And your argument is, what if you awaken the beast?

02:06:44.360 Now you've slept with this virgin woman.

02:06:46.760 And what would you be...

02:06:48.060 If you awaken that beast, isn't she?

02:06:49.680 Well, I suppose it's possible.

02:06:51.340 Yeah, the milkman's coming by.

02:06:53.040 Yeah, but here's what the data shows us.

02:06:54.900 Here's what we know from the data.

02:06:56.880 Because women who marry as virgins have only the sample size of their husband, right?

02:07:02.180 That's the sample that they have.

02:07:04.020 They think that's the best sex in the world.

02:07:06.080 What the fuck would they have to compare it to?

02:07:07.920 Yeah, I actually have friends that...

02:07:10.840 They have nothing to compare it to.

02:07:13.100 So that's why the longevity and the faithfulness in those relationships tends to be much higher

02:07:18.480 than it is in the general public.

02:07:20.260 Yeah, I have some very happily married couple friends that have been together since high

02:07:25.420 school that have never been with anybody else.

02:07:27.440 So I totally see that.

02:07:28.560 I've also had seen on the other side of the spectrum, you know, really unhappy, like people

02:07:34.240 that wanted to like, resented that.

02:07:36.320 They wished they had more experience.

02:07:37.480 And I've also seen people with a lot of experience...

02:07:40.400 I can't argue with your anecdotes.

02:07:41.840 Yeah.

02:07:42.220 I can't argue with anecdotal experience.

02:07:44.040 So I'm going to defer to what we see from polls and data from people who are studied,

02:07:48.720 who enter into virgin relationships, their divorce rate, their marriage rate, their happiness

02:07:52.580 rates, and their infidelity rates.

02:07:55.180 I'll defer to when we have a much larger sample size than what I personally have seen, but rather

02:08:00.820 them being followed so that we understand what the outcomes of those types of relationships

02:08:05.620 are.

02:08:06.120 And here's what we see, just so you know, what we see specifically is that men and women

02:08:11.160 who get married as virgins, their relationships last far longer.

02:08:15.640 Their divorce rates are far less, far, far, far less.

02:08:18.900 And if a man marries a virgin who's not a virgin, same thing, almost the same identical outcome.

02:08:24.040 However, if the woman is promiscuous and the man is promiscuous, the outcome's usually

02:08:28.700 bad when it comes to divorce.

02:08:29.960 Same thing if only one partner is promiscuous.

02:08:33.100 So what we can ascertain from this is that if you're both virgins and you get married,

02:08:38.160 it's no guarantee that you won't awaken the beast and the woman.

02:08:41.660 But it's a great mitigating factor, isn't it?

02:08:44.420 It's great.

02:08:44.800 It's a great way to mitigate it.

02:08:46.060 It's easy as an example.

02:08:46.780 Yeah.

02:08:47.980 And also, though, you know, somebody with a lot of experience could just as easily like

02:08:52.760 know what they want now and know what they don't want.

02:08:55.780 And sometimes I also want to bring up sometimes, you know, women have been in unfortunate situations

02:09:01.700 and circumstances as a young child and there's trauma.

02:09:04.900 And sometimes you find yourself in unfortunate situations where you can change.

02:09:09.940 You can totally change.

02:09:10.760 The greatest copes ever by women.

02:09:12.980 This is one of the greatest copes that I hear from women is the idea that I had childhood

02:09:19.320 trauma.

02:09:20.000 Well, here's the thing.

02:09:20.700 I'm just going to be blunt with you.

02:09:21.820 Everybody has fucking childhood trauma.

02:09:23.880 Everybody.

02:09:24.500 Yeah.

02:09:24.640 Every human being on earth has childhood trauma, men or women.

02:09:28.080 It's just that when men complain about it, nobody gives a shit.

02:09:31.160 And when women complain about it, there's a woman there to go, oh, sweetie.

02:09:34.340 Oh, sweetheart.

02:09:35.240 I'm so sorry that that happened.

02:09:36.840 Oh, it's so terrible that that happened.

02:09:38.640 That the man was mean to you when you were, oh, sweet.

02:09:41.540 Is there anything?

02:09:42.200 Can I give you my other shoulder to cry on too?

02:09:44.380 When it comes to men, we just don't give a shit.

02:09:46.540 We're like, well, suck it up, buttercup.

02:09:47.800 Get your ass back to work because we got to get this project done by five.

02:09:51.560 Well, I do disagree that everybody has had childhood sexual trauma.

02:09:56.440 I don't think that has.

02:09:57.400 Okay.

02:09:57.780 I'm moving it off.

02:09:58.640 It's a highly prevalent in men.

02:10:00.520 Where does this idea come from that this is exclusive to women?

02:10:04.420 Oh, sorry.

02:10:05.180 All right.

02:10:05.740 Well, never mind.

02:10:07.540 All right.

02:10:07.960 I'm just saying.

02:10:08.840 Nick, pull up Twitch.

02:10:10.300 Brian's displeased.

02:10:11.420 Go ahead.

02:10:13.620 Guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.

02:10:15.740 Drop us a follow on the Prime sub.

02:10:17.460 If you want one, if you can subscribe, twitch.tv slash whatever.

02:10:21.860 Drop us a follow on the Prime sub.

02:10:23.540 And then go to our Discord, discord.gg slash whatever.

02:10:27.380 You can hide that temporarily.

02:10:33.100 Discord.gg slash whatever.

02:10:34.900 Also pull it up over there.

02:10:36.000 One sec, guys.

02:10:38.220 One sec, guys.

02:10:40.060 So we did an IRL stream on Friday.

02:10:42.140 Yo, AB check.

02:10:42.860 Thank you for the gift of 20 memberships.

02:10:44.500 We did an IRL stream on Friday, but we had to take it down because that twat in the pink polo said some TOS shit.

02:10:52.660 So if you want to see it, we can't post it on YouTube.

02:10:55.940 We can't play it on YouTube.

02:10:56.940 But discord.gg slash whatever.

02:10:59.240 If you guys want to see it, discord.gg slash whatever.

02:11:05.060 And yeah, appreciate it, guys.

02:11:07.840 And then what else do we have?

02:11:09.660 I'm just going to get into some pre-show notes here.

02:11:13.220 Going to Liz, you said that you're super single in your pre-show notes.

02:11:17.860 I'm trying to recall if you said there's something at all in the picture currently dating.

02:11:27.100 Oh, super single.

02:11:28.440 Let's pull up her dating app.

02:11:29.600 Why not?

02:11:29.900 Let's do that really quick.

02:11:30.860 Oh, fuck.

02:11:31.820 We'll do that really quick.

02:11:33.000 Go ahead, Nick.

02:11:34.480 That's crazy.

02:11:37.500 All right.

02:11:39.240 All right, guys.

02:11:42.920 Here's her hinge.

02:11:45.020 Nick, you looked at these before, correct?

02:11:46.760 Devin, Nick.

02:11:47.900 All right.

02:11:49.160 Are you able to scroll down a bit?

02:11:50.940 He has no comment.

02:11:52.660 His opinions don't obviously matter.

02:11:55.380 Spider, bees, nicked.

02:11:57.060 What are those two?

02:11:59.840 I'm scared of complete darkness.

02:12:02.640 Okay, there's two phobias there.

02:12:04.300 So what are...

02:12:04.840 Right.

02:12:05.620 Silence phobia is that ass phobia.

02:12:07.320 I'm just playing.

02:12:09.480 Deep waters.

02:12:10.760 It is deep waters.

02:12:11.660 Thank you so much.

02:12:12.980 I wanted to see...

02:12:13.640 Okay, so like nickedophobia.

02:12:15.540 Thank you, Laundrie.

02:12:16.160 It's more like I'm scared of complete darkness, meaning like pitch darkness.

02:12:21.720 Like I can't see my hands, my feet.

02:12:24.600 And that is scary because I start thinking of things like what is out there.

02:12:28.360 And obviously that's just that.

02:12:30.140 But phallus phobia is deep water.

02:12:32.840 So I know how to swim.

02:12:34.800 I like to swim.

02:12:36.660 Got it.

02:12:37.300 Okay.

02:12:38.340 You said you're Christian.

02:12:41.280 You're Christian.

02:12:43.180 What denomination?

02:12:44.500 I actually grew up Mormon, but I would consider myself Christian now because I am still like

02:12:49.600 religious.

02:12:50.340 So I still go to church on like every other Sunday.

02:12:53.060 I'm trying to get better.

02:12:53.640 What's the denomination of the church?

02:12:56.020 Christianity.

02:12:58.160 Non-denominational.

02:12:59.400 Like Pentecostal.

02:13:01.960 Do you by chance go to St. Baptist?

02:13:03.500 St. Baptist?

02:13:04.240 So, no.

02:13:05.580 I would, I'm like, honestly, I haven't really like investigated that much, but I wanted to

02:13:09.200 reach out to churches and I didn't want to go back to like Mormon.

02:13:12.320 So I looked at the churches that were nearby and I went to a couple and that one really

02:13:15.600 stood out to me in the sense of like the pastor and what he preaches and like energy-based

02:13:21.540 because I've like tried like Jehovah Witnesses.

02:13:23.760 I didn't really, it wasn't really intriguing.

02:13:26.920 All right.

02:13:27.100 Let's go back to the profile, please.

02:13:28.820 Yeah.

02:13:30.300 Yeah.

02:13:31.900 Okay.

02:13:32.580 Boom.

02:13:33.660 Next.

02:13:34.580 Cute.

02:13:35.680 Together we could cook, work out, hopefully make each other laugh.

02:13:39.080 Green flags I look for, communication, patience, charisma, family-oriented, sense of humor,

02:13:50.500 optimism, et cetera.

02:13:53.040 I don't know, man.

02:13:53.980 That sounds like a lot of work.

02:13:56.420 Okay.

02:13:56.920 Not as much as fucking Lawrence, all right?

02:13:59.300 Don't fucking put me there.

02:14:01.720 I was going to press the button, but I got cut off, so I would have pressed it.

02:14:05.800 Wait, you don't know the rule of Lawrence?

02:14:07.200 So just so you know, all Lawrence are evil from birth.

02:14:10.400 Okay.

02:14:10.920 This is the rule for Lawrence.

02:14:12.920 Nick, is there more?

02:14:14.340 Why?

02:14:15.840 We're evil from birth, he said.

02:14:18.020 From birth.

02:14:18.640 Every Lawrence.

02:14:19.320 Andrew, please expand.

02:14:20.420 That's me too.

02:14:21.060 What do you mean?

02:14:21.840 She's also a Lawrence.

02:14:23.180 We have two Lawrence here.

02:14:24.500 Wait, why?

02:14:26.280 I don't know why.

02:14:27.440 It's like a universal law.

02:14:29.220 I've never been able to figure it out, but there is no such thing as a Lawrence who is

02:14:33.280 not evil from birth.

02:14:34.700 I have no idea why she's not.

02:14:35.120 I'm not evil from birth.

02:14:36.180 I have no idea why she's not evil from birth.

02:14:37.320 I have no idea why she's not evil from birth, but I have no idea why she's not evil from

02:14:38.820 I think my exes have something else to say about that.

02:14:43.740 We need whatever poll to see if all Lawrence are evil from birth, honestly.

02:14:47.920 I've never met a Lawrence I didn't like, but I have a really sweet friend named Lawrence.

02:14:51.340 Yeah, I like Lawrence.

02:14:52.300 You're biased.

02:14:52.900 I think it's a great name.

02:14:53.780 Yeah, I think Lawrence is a great name.

02:14:55.100 Because you are Lawrence.

02:14:56.160 Go moms.

02:14:56.720 Who hurt you?

02:14:57.680 Who hurt you named Lawrence?

02:15:00.800 So going around the table, those of you who are single, I know you're married, relationship.

02:15:08.060 Do you currently have a roster of guys?

02:15:10.780 I think you said you're dating a couple people.

02:15:13.060 Well, no, when I said dating, I meant like I'm single and I'm open to dating.

02:15:19.660 Like I'm not dating a specific person right now.

02:15:21.240 Well, when's the last time you went on a date?

02:15:22.500 I guess I went to a concert last night with some people.

02:15:28.780 Some people?

02:15:32.440 Was it a date?

02:15:34.500 It was a group of people and there was other single people there.

02:15:39.300 I feel like this is very coded language.

02:15:42.100 I went on a concert with some people and there were other single people there as well that were in the group.

02:15:45.920 Wait, was it like one of these single outing groups that meet up type things?

02:15:52.200 No, I went with a friend and her friends.

02:15:55.160 Slingers.

02:15:56.180 I'm just kidding.

02:15:57.540 I went with a friend with her friends.

02:15:58.960 Last time I was on like a date date.

02:16:01.200 What was the concert?

02:16:03.060 Creed.

02:16:04.060 Oh, okay.

02:16:04.720 It was so good.

02:16:05.860 Okay.

02:16:06.320 It was so good.

02:16:07.220 Can I get your best Creed impression?

02:16:09.640 Can you take me higher?

02:16:12.640 Oh, yes, ma'am.

02:16:14.260 All right.

02:16:14.940 There you go.

02:16:17.140 Okay.

02:16:18.000 So when's the last time you were on a date?

02:16:19.440 Like dinner?

02:16:23.080 What do you mean?

02:16:24.280 When's the last time you hung out one-on-one with a man where there was a mutual or potentially mutual romantic interest?

02:16:31.940 Okay.

02:16:32.540 Or sexual interest?

02:16:36.400 Probably like a month ago or so.

02:16:38.460 Okay.

02:16:38.960 Yeah.

02:16:39.180 Is he out of the picture?

02:16:39.920 No, not out of the picture.

02:16:45.820 Okay.

02:16:46.240 How long have you been hanging out with this individual?

02:16:54.060 There's like an on-again, off-again person that's been in my life for like seven years.

02:16:57.520 On-again, off-again.

02:16:58.840 And yeah.

02:17:01.260 So there's that person.

02:17:03.300 You're being a little evasive.

02:17:04.560 You're being a little evasive here.

02:17:06.100 What do you want?

02:17:06.900 What do you want?

02:17:07.880 Do you fuck or not?

02:17:10.960 I am open to talking about some past experiences, but I don't feel comfortable talking about my current life right now.

02:17:19.660 Dating.

02:17:21.980 You've been seeing this guy for seven years.

02:17:24.160 No, I mean, this is just somebody.

02:17:25.720 This is like very pertinent to the conversation.

02:17:28.940 It's somebody that is in an off-again phase right now.

02:17:34.920 Is he in prison?

02:17:36.380 No, no, no, no, no, no.

02:17:37.480 We both just...

02:17:38.660 Prison.

02:17:39.240 You don't need to tell me his name or anything.

02:17:41.240 No, I know.

02:17:41.740 It's just not...

02:17:42.620 I'm not going to talk about that.

02:17:44.500 Well, I'll ask some questions.

02:17:46.300 If you don't want to answer them, that's fine.

02:17:47.780 But so you said you were on a date a month ago.

02:17:52.220 Was it with said guy who you can't talk about?

02:17:55.180 No.

02:17:58.180 Okay.

02:17:58.820 No.

02:17:59.140 But so I...

02:17:59.680 Okay.

02:17:59.960 I guess I met somebody at an event and went out with friends after the event.

02:18:04.780 Went out for drinks after the event.

02:18:06.100 With this person.

02:18:08.000 But yeah.

02:18:09.140 A month ago?

02:18:10.680 Yeah.

02:18:11.480 So you met him a month ago?

02:18:13.440 Or have you known him for longer?

02:18:15.640 The person that I technically went on a date with last?

02:18:18.100 Yes.

02:18:18.440 I met him a month ago and we went on a date.

02:18:20.520 Have you seen him since or no?

02:18:26.760 We've talked.

02:18:27.400 I'm so confident nowadays.

02:18:28.740 We've talked.

02:18:29.340 Yeah.

02:18:29.780 Have you met in person?

02:18:31.840 Um, I don't want to talk about that stuff right now.

02:18:36.100 I mean, why not?

02:18:38.600 Just...

02:18:39.000 I know.

02:18:39.520 Hold on.

02:18:40.180 I think I know exactly why.

02:18:41.820 There's multiple men in the picture and you don't want to let on to these other men,

02:18:46.180 these multiple men who you're seeing...

02:18:47.820 No, actually.

02:18:48.660 Whoa, whoa, whoa.

02:18:49.480 Actually, my...

02:18:50.240 Then for what other reason...

02:18:50.980 I'll tell you the reason.

02:18:51.780 For whatever...

02:18:52.320 I'll tell you the reason right now.

02:18:53.200 For what other reason would you refuse this question?

02:18:55.020 I'll tell you right now.

02:18:56.400 My son is a huge fan of this show and I really hope he doesn't watch this podcast, but I keep

02:19:00.960 my dating life private from my children.

02:19:04.280 Wait, you asked to come on a dating discussion podcast?

02:19:06.940 Yeah, because I was hoping it would be a little bit more like politically involved.

02:19:10.360 Well, we can get there, but...

02:19:11.800 Okay, so that's what I was actually hoping for more.

02:19:14.200 Like, you know, I said I'm open to talking about some of my past experiences.

02:19:19.100 Well, you're not silly, right?

02:19:21.080 We could refer to this ex as Sasquatch or, like, whatever you want in order to make it

02:19:27.960 so that you can talk about these experiences in a way that we can understand without you

02:19:32.060 outing any of this actual pertinent information, right?

02:19:36.560 Yeah, potentially.

02:19:37.600 It's just that my kid, like, he's just discovered that I'm dating.

02:19:41.220 Like, for the longest time, I only thought I only had one boyfriend after his dad for eight

02:19:44.760 years, so it's just kind of...

02:19:45.760 Yeah, but we're not talking about a boyfriend.

02:19:46.980 We're talking about a Sasquatch, right?

02:19:48.600 Right.

02:19:50.040 Right.

02:19:50.440 Like, if you were to date a Sasquatch, what would that be?

02:19:52.760 Right?

02:19:53.000 Something like this, I think, you don't seem like you're foolish, right?

02:19:58.460 I think that we can work this in in such a way where you can discuss these issues without

02:20:04.200 you outing any personal details, nor do we want you to.

02:20:07.820 Yeah.

02:20:09.260 What is it that you would like to know about the date?

02:20:12.740 Well, I was more interested in the whole roster situation.

02:20:18.980 Have you...

02:20:19.220 No, I don't have a roster right now.

02:20:20.280 Have you ever had a roster?

02:20:21.100 I date...

02:20:21.900 I put myself...

02:20:23.080 I stopped dating men in California a year ago.

02:20:25.780 Why?

02:20:26.980 Because of a lot of political stuff, you know?

02:20:29.000 I really like more conservative men, and so I started dating in Texas.

02:20:34.780 Where it's bigger.

02:20:35.460 You live in California?

02:20:36.840 I do.

02:20:37.180 But I was hoping to move out there.

02:20:40.540 Wait, with your three kids?

02:20:42.340 No, just with my son and I.

02:20:44.880 My daughters are already established here, and they're older, so...

02:20:48.040 Wait, you have three kids, right?

02:20:49.680 Mm-hmm.

02:20:50.120 You have one that just is 17?

02:20:52.580 Yeah, but she graduated high school already.

02:20:54.420 Okay, she's going to college.

02:20:55.640 And then you have a younger daughter?

02:20:57.580 15-year-old, sophomore.

02:20:59.240 And then you're...

02:21:01.240 Son is 11 in sixth grade.

02:21:02.900 Okay.

02:21:03.200 Yeah, so he and I...

02:21:03.840 Wait, why don't you...

02:21:04.720 Do you have...

02:21:05.300 Wait, do you have full custody of your children?

02:21:08.920 Well, I never took them to court for any custody arrangement until last year, and the girls

02:21:13.560 are at discretion to go with their dad, and our son can see him only if he agrees to

02:21:19.020 not have the girlfriend around.

02:21:20.220 Well, assuming you met somebody and you could move to Texas now, you would leave your...

02:21:24.460 No, I would not be able to leave without permission, written permission from him, since

02:21:29.140 I kind of shot myself in the foot by taking him to court, because now I can't leave, if

02:21:33.360 I wanted to, without written permission.

02:21:36.340 Wait, and so...

02:21:38.280 But I had to take him to court.

02:21:41.720 So you'd have to wait...

02:21:43.480 I'm confused, but you said you want to move to Texas.

02:21:46.580 So, I had wanted to.

02:21:47.800 It didn't work out, so I'm not doing that now.

02:21:50.440 Would he be...

02:21:51.040 Would he consider granting you permission to move to Texas?

02:21:54.280 I don't know.

02:21:54.960 We really don't talk.

02:21:56.540 Does he ever have the kids?

02:21:58.580 Rarely.

02:21:59.220 Rarely, and if he does, it's our son.

02:22:01.560 How often does he visit?

02:22:06.020 He could go six months without seeing him, or see him every weekend.

02:22:10.060 It's really open to him.

02:22:12.060 I would never keep my kid's father from there.

02:22:14.100 But so, knowing that you are essentially barred from leaving, why are you pursuing a man who

02:22:21.080 lives in Texas?

02:22:21.680 I'm not anymore doing that, because now I can't.

02:22:25.720 I'm for sure not moving.

02:22:26.860 But that's what I did last year.

02:22:28.440 So, last year, I stopped dating men in California.

02:22:32.060 Because you wanted to meet a conservative guy?

02:22:35.160 In Texas.

02:22:36.180 Okay.

02:22:36.460 There's other things I like about Texas, too.

02:22:37.800 There's a lot of liberals in Texas, too.

02:22:40.220 There are.

02:22:40.860 There are.

02:22:41.800 Okay.

02:22:43.260 And so, at any point, have you had a roster?

02:22:47.420 Yes.

02:22:48.140 Okay.

02:22:49.080 How big was the roster?

02:22:52.340 Not big.

02:22:53.520 Small.

02:22:54.120 Two, three guys?

02:22:56.400 At a time, I guess I would say two.

02:22:59.400 Okay.

02:23:00.420 What about you?

02:23:00.980 Ever had a roster?

02:23:03.640 Yeah.

02:23:04.000 I mentioned that earlier, that I've had my...

02:23:07.000 Hose.

02:23:08.260 You said hose, I think.

02:23:09.160 Way-o.

02:23:10.340 Yeah.

02:23:10.940 First stage of hose.

02:23:12.660 But that doesn't necessarily mean having sex.

02:23:14.820 What is a roster to you in your definition?

02:23:16.800 Does that mean, like, sexually active with them?

02:23:18.540 Or are you just dating them and talking to them?

02:23:22.280 I mean, it could mean sexual activity.

02:23:25.120 But I would say, like, if you're dating multiple men.

02:23:30.340 I mean, like, I've talked to some.

02:23:32.040 But, like, I think, like...

02:23:33.540 Have you ever...

02:23:34.740 Okay.

02:23:34.960 Let's just...

02:23:35.320 I'll just make it simple.

02:23:36.200 Okay.

02:23:36.500 Let's just do, like, sexual.

02:23:38.040 Have you ever had a roster of guys who you've been hooking up with?

02:23:40.960 Uh...

02:23:42.960 It'd be more like just running back to my exes.

02:23:47.580 I remember that whole accountability conversation we were having, right?

02:23:50.900 Come on.

02:23:51.360 Tell us about the roster.

02:23:52.260 Yeah, Andrew.

02:23:52.780 Tell us about the roster.

02:23:53.580 I'm getting there.

02:23:54.760 I'm getting there.

02:23:55.360 What I'm saying was, like, I wouldn't, like, for me, like...

02:23:58.120 Like, oh, okay.

02:23:58.840 Like, I didn't want to do the one that says, like, I would do more, like...

02:24:01.540 I would run to my exes.

02:24:02.580 And that was my issue.

02:24:03.400 Like, oh, I wanted, if I wanted, like, to, whatever, quick nut or just be, like, sexually

02:24:08.280 or, like, just bust it out there, you know what I'm saying, instead of adding it to the

02:24:13.260 body.

02:24:14.040 Would you ever be sexually involved with multiple men at the same time?

02:24:19.400 And when I say same time, I mean, say, a period of a week, a month, something like this.

02:24:26.360 No.

02:24:26.980 It would be, like, sexually active with one, entertaining some, like, talking, dating-wise.

02:24:32.580 But, like, the other one would be strictly just for, like, sexual basis.

02:24:35.820 So there'd be, like, you'd have one guy who you're sleeping with, and then maybe you'd

02:24:39.320 be going on, like, a date here and there with, like, another dude.

02:24:42.560 Yeah.

02:24:43.260 Would you ever tell that other dude that you're waiting to have sex with him?

02:24:49.820 Oh, I...

02:24:51.360 Oh, never mind.

02:24:51.860 I just...

02:24:52.280 I'm sorry.

02:24:53.080 Repeat your question.

02:24:54.140 Like, the men, while you were, kind of, had the roster, whatever, would you ever tell them

02:25:00.740 that you want to wait to have sex with them?

02:25:04.600 The people that I'm, like, my ex-relationships that I, like, just, like, be involved with?

02:25:09.020 No, like, so, okay, you said there'd be, like, one guy here you're sleeping with?

02:25:11.260 Yeah.

02:25:11.620 And then there would be other guys who you're not sleeping with, but, like, you're going

02:25:15.000 on a date or a second date, that sort of thing.

02:25:17.800 Yeah.

02:25:18.120 What would you tell them?

02:25:19.640 Because I assume they wanted to sleep with you, right?

02:25:22.020 Would you tell them that you're waiting to have sex?

02:25:23.880 I mean, it kind of just goes with, like, see what our vibe is.

02:25:28.660 I always do have a conversation, like, obviously, like, are you sexually active with other people

02:25:32.140 before we make the jump of having sex?

02:25:34.440 Like, okay, yeah, okay, this is what it is.

02:25:36.580 Like, this is the last person I had sex with.

02:25:37.960 I had sex with my ex.

02:25:39.020 I'm just going to be honest, because at the end of the day, like, I'd rather be honest

02:25:41.280 and just, like, beat around the bush about it.

02:25:42.960 Like, and then I hope to receive the same back.

02:25:46.840 I think what he's asking is, are you withholding sex from the guys that you're going on casual

02:25:50.780 dates with?

02:25:51.460 Um, now, I would say yes.

02:25:55.840 Back then, I did discover my confidence, and I would, like, be like, oh, yeah, let's do

02:26:02.320 this, or I felt sexy, or I felt the vibe, or I don't indulge in, like, smoking or drinking

02:26:06.860 to, like, do that, but now, no.

02:26:10.100 Back then, yeah.

02:26:17.580 Huh?

02:26:18.160 Oh.

02:26:18.620 It was what?

02:26:19.220 Good call.

02:26:20.180 Was it out, or?

02:26:21.460 Was it out?

02:26:22.100 Not, like, too much, but it could have been.

02:26:24.800 Sorry.

02:26:25.320 What happens if you have tits?

02:26:27.520 Sorry.

02:26:30.300 So, back to, um, the discussion.

02:26:34.300 I'm sorry.

02:26:35.140 Did I answer your question, or were you?

02:26:37.220 All right, here, I'll move it on.

02:26:38.320 Roster?

02:26:38.920 Have you ever answered Roster?

02:26:39.340 Yeah, you're, you're latibulating a little bit here, right?

02:26:42.040 So, um, backing up, yeah, yeah, so, so, so backing up, I feel like you're spinning a yarn here

02:26:48.300 worse than Rumpelstiltskin, so can you, can you just, like, be a little bit more concise

02:26:52.480 with what it is that you're saying, because you're kind of going all over the place here.

02:26:55.800 I'm trying to find the question, so you give me the direct answer.

02:26:58.820 So, for example, I'm, like, sleeping with a guy, um, and I go on dates with two other

02:27:04.160 guys, um, you would ask me, like, am I, he's trying to ask, like, am, actually, that was

02:27:10.100 a bad hypothetical.

02:27:11.000 Okay, he's asking if you are withholding sex from these guys that you were going on dates

02:27:15.940 with while you were also having a sexual relationship with someone else.

02:27:20.040 Like, are you telling these guys, oh, I want to wait to have sex while you're also having

02:27:24.080 a sexual relationship?

02:27:24.520 Okay.

02:27:24.840 No.

02:27:25.060 Okay.

02:27:25.560 No.

02:27:26.040 Okay.

02:27:26.540 Uh, ever had a roster?

02:27:27.640 Yes.

02:27:28.580 Uh, what was, what was the scope of it?

02:27:31.160 Um, it was only, like, three, and then I ended up dating one that was the one that I just

02:27:36.020 recently got out of.

02:27:37.260 Mm-hmm.

02:27:37.620 And were you hooking up with all of them?

02:27:39.080 No.

02:27:39.860 Okay.

02:27:40.020 I was only with him.

02:27:42.080 But you were all, you were dating three at the time?

02:27:44.460 Well, I wouldn't say, like, dating.

02:27:46.300 I would say, like, we would hang out, we were, like, cutie and flirty, and we would, like,

02:27:49.660 go out with, like, group of friends.

02:27:51.040 It was never just, like, one-on-one.

02:27:54.560 Wait.

02:27:56.280 What do you mean?

02:27:57.260 Like, we would, like, all, like, it would be, like, me, him, and then his friends, and

02:28:00.500 then, like, my girlfriends.

02:28:01.300 We would, like, all go out together.

02:28:02.240 But we liked each other.

02:28:03.320 But we never went, like, on a date with each other.

02:28:05.540 I'm sorry.

02:28:06.020 The main guy that you liked?

02:28:08.120 No.

02:28:08.580 The other two.

02:28:09.700 They, wait, they would also, all, all three of the men would be on a date together with

02:28:16.800 you?

02:28:16.980 No, no, no.

02:28:17.540 So, like, first, like, the main guy, like, that I ended up dating, him and I would just

02:28:22.340 hang out all the time, like, just me and him together.

02:28:24.340 And we'd go on dates.

02:28:25.420 We would just be us two, or it would be, like, me and his sister, or, like, I'd hang

02:28:28.420 out with his family.

02:28:29.420 And then the other two, I would hang out in, like, group settings.

02:28:34.120 Okay.

02:28:34.840 Individually.

02:28:35.340 Sure, sure.

02:28:35.780 Yeah.

02:28:36.480 What about you?

02:28:37.700 Roster?

02:28:38.560 Current?

02:28:39.200 No roster?

02:28:39.980 Current?

02:28:40.480 I mean, I'm, like, dating, so, like, going on multiple dates.

02:28:44.140 Is that a roster?

02:28:46.520 Yeah.

02:28:46.880 Well, let's talk about that.

02:28:48.480 So, you're dating.

02:28:49.620 You're going on multiple dates.

02:28:51.500 How many have you been on a date this week?

02:28:54.360 Past week?

02:28:55.000 This week, probably two.

02:28:57.440 Two dates?

02:28:58.300 Mm-hmm.

02:28:58.580 Okay.

02:28:58.960 And were they both first dates?

02:29:00.940 One of them, yes.

02:29:01.920 The other one, no.

02:29:03.260 Okay.

02:29:04.040 Past month, how many dates have you gone on?

02:29:08.600 Like, six.

02:29:10.460 How many different, like, six different guys?

02:29:13.660 Six dates, six guys.

02:29:14.360 Six different guys?

02:29:15.280 Okay.

02:29:15.580 All right.

02:29:17.640 It's just dating, though, so it's not, like, anything sexual.

02:29:21.320 Okay.

02:29:21.840 So, you're not hooking up with anybody?

02:29:23.440 No.

02:29:26.440 You think I'm lying?

02:29:29.440 I don't know.

02:29:30.300 I don't know what the truth is.

02:29:31.580 It's okay.

02:29:33.960 Your friend back there is laughing, so she's...

02:29:36.500 Can we see it in the reflection?

02:29:39.560 I'm trying to see.

02:29:41.660 A little bit.

02:29:42.640 We can sort of see it right there.

02:29:44.180 Yeah, there she is.

02:29:46.440 So, is she telling the truth here, friend, or...?

02:29:49.500 I played a fifth.

02:29:53.240 So, how long have you been celibate?

02:29:58.660 Everyone always thinks I'm lying.

02:30:00.220 Eight months.

02:30:01.840 Nine.

02:30:03.280 That's how long I've been single for.

02:30:04.580 Why does she keep walking off?

02:30:06.000 She just doesn't believe you?

02:30:07.840 No, she's getting water.

02:30:08.760 I think she's getting water.

02:30:10.320 She's getting water.

02:30:11.160 She's getting water.

02:30:11.760 I'll come back, I swear.

02:30:13.600 Yeah.

02:30:14.460 Okay.

02:30:15.240 So, because you said you have been single for eight months, so there's been...

02:30:19.500 Nobody.

02:30:20.840 Nobody.

02:30:21.760 No.

02:30:22.760 Nobody?

02:30:23.380 Nobody.

02:30:23.700 Nobody.

02:30:23.840 What if I told you that somebody DM'd me that knows you, and they said that's not true?

02:30:34.520 Uh-oh.

02:30:34.920 Absolutely false.

02:30:37.800 I'm just kidding.

02:30:39.340 I'm like...

02:30:41.000 But I've had heard that before, though, where it's guys lie about hooking up with me.

02:30:46.580 I am from a small town, so...

02:30:47.780 So, going back to you, have you ever had a roster?

02:30:51.040 Um, yeah.

02:30:52.860 At one point in time.

02:30:53.720 How big was the roster?

02:30:55.200 Three.

02:30:55.940 Three guys?

02:30:56.360 I think I was, like, 18 years old.

02:30:57.780 No, not sleeping with.

02:30:58.880 No.

02:30:59.240 Like, texting.

02:31:00.380 Texting?

02:31:00.780 Yeah.

02:31:00.980 Okay.

02:31:01.620 What about you?

02:31:02.080 You ever had a roster?

02:31:02.980 Girls, guys, whatever?

02:31:03.960 Uh, yeah.

02:31:04.240 I've definitely, like, had a roster.

02:31:05.540 No more than, like, three.

02:31:06.600 But it wasn't like I was having sex with all of them at once.

02:31:08.780 It was just, like, talking.

02:31:10.000 Mm-hmm.

02:31:10.300 How big was the roster?

02:31:11.360 You said three?

02:31:11.800 Probably, like, three.

02:31:12.540 Three, yeah.

02:31:13.740 And then, did you answer this question?

02:31:15.200 Yeah, I said two.

02:31:15.720 Or you refused to kind of answer the question?

02:31:17.540 I said I have had one.

02:31:18.740 I have had one in my life.

02:31:20.240 Okay.

02:31:20.580 Two.

02:31:21.160 Oh, okay.

02:31:22.580 Going to my notes here on Anna, you said kind...

02:31:26.900 Your current relationship, you talked about it a bit.

02:31:29.000 You said it's kind of an interesting story.

02:31:31.220 Did you share the interesting story component?

02:31:32.880 Well, it was just that we talked for, like, a full year.

02:31:35.700 But we basically were dating.

02:31:37.960 But we never made it official.

02:31:39.560 And you guys were friends prior?

02:31:40.820 No, we met on Tinder.

02:31:43.100 Oh.

02:31:43.460 And, like...

02:31:44.140 And you, wait, you didn't meet up in person?

02:31:46.420 No, we did.

02:31:47.180 Oh, you did?

02:31:47.640 We just never, like, made it an official title that we were dating.

02:31:51.240 But we just acted like we were dating for, like, a year.

02:31:53.660 Oh, okay.

02:31:54.700 You said you have a lot of crazy dating stories from hookups with guys in your

02:31:58.940 freshman year that...

02:32:00.340 Yeah, in the past.

02:32:01.440 ...didn't know how to put on a condom.

02:32:03.080 Can you shine a flashlight for me?

02:32:04.800 I did have a guy make me shine a flashlight on his dick to put the condom on.

02:32:08.880 It was really uncomfortable.

02:32:10.740 What?

02:32:11.100 Wait, why was it uncomfortable?

02:32:12.340 Well, it was just, like, I didn't want to, like, put a flashlight on that in, like,

02:32:15.640 the dark room.

02:32:16.540 Like, that's just, like...

02:32:17.680 It wasn't...

02:32:18.740 You were, like, a lights-out kind of gal?

02:32:20.640 Yeah.

02:32:20.660 Well, it just, like, ruined the moment.

02:32:22.020 Wasn't it going to go inside of you?

02:32:24.580 Yeah, it was, but...

02:32:26.620 So you just didn't want to look at it?

02:32:28.200 Maybe.

02:32:29.020 It was, like...

02:32:29.640 It was a hookup, and so it was just, like, it kind of ruined the moment when he's, like,

02:32:33.540 oh, like, can you get a flashlight?

02:32:34.740 I'm, like, trying to find my phone.

02:32:36.360 So he wanted to make sure that the condom went on correctly so that you could see.

02:32:39.960 Well, I think he was a virgin.

02:32:41.620 And it ruined the moment for you?

02:32:42.740 To be honest.

02:32:43.400 Oh, he was a virgin?

02:32:43.940 I think he just had never put one on before.

02:32:45.580 He was a virgin?

02:32:46.300 Yeah.

02:32:46.900 It was really awkward.

02:32:47.880 He had a little penis?

02:32:49.060 Yeah.

02:32:49.340 Oh, my God, he's crazy.

02:32:52.460 Why are you over here...

02:32:53.740 Now he has an Oompa Loompa penis?

02:32:56.360 Oompa Loompa penis?

02:32:57.760 He can't be even mildly charitable.

02:33:00.260 He can't be even mildly charitable.

02:33:01.680 He was fine.

02:33:02.720 Like, I...

02:33:04.180 There was nothing really special about it.

02:33:05.860 It was just really awkward.

02:33:08.000 Because of the flashlight?

02:33:09.200 Yeah, the flashlight.

02:33:10.180 Because it, like, scared me too, honestly.

02:33:11.540 And, like, I was just, like, sitting there, like, holding it.

02:33:14.040 And it was, like, a spotlight.

02:33:15.460 Because he's, like, struggling to put on the condom.

02:33:17.160 You heard it here first, folks.

02:33:19.620 Don't be vulnerable with women, ever.

02:33:22.820 I guess.

02:33:23.260 You know what?

02:33:23.780 They do say guys that turn the lights on...

02:33:25.800 Oh, girls that turn the lights on, they're, like...

02:33:27.260 Or they turn the lights off.

02:33:28.820 I think they say that they're insecure about themselves.

02:33:30.960 Yeah, I have heard that.

02:33:32.240 But I don't even know why the lights off.

02:33:35.040 Or were off.

02:33:35.940 It just kind of happened that way.

02:33:37.180 So a lot of crazy dating went from your freshman year.

02:33:40.280 Yeah, I had, like, a sugar daddy and stuff.

02:33:42.500 Okay.

02:33:43.160 You said...

02:33:44.160 Let me see here.

02:33:46.120 You dated a guy for your...

02:33:47.960 Well, let's go into the sugar daddy really quick.

02:33:49.540 First off, show of hands.

02:33:50.780 Who here has had a sugar daddy before?

02:33:55.980 Is that not normal?

02:33:58.420 You've had a sugar daddy?

02:33:59.520 Yeah.

02:34:00.980 Equestrian horse?

02:34:01.860 Correct.

02:34:02.820 Someone's got to pay for the horses.

02:34:06.060 Emphasis on the no daddy part.

02:34:07.480 She said no dad?

02:34:08.500 That doesn't mean she meant the sugar daddy.

02:34:10.660 Wait, so you, you, you, and did you raise your hand too?

02:34:14.780 Yeah.

02:34:15.400 Okay.

02:34:15.820 So let's get into the sugar daddy stuff really quick.

02:34:18.480 Only one sugar daddy?

02:34:20.140 Or have you had more?

02:34:21.420 Only one that, like, actually, like, paid me for stuff.

02:34:24.640 Paid.

02:34:25.260 Or, like, a significant amount.

02:34:26.780 But I never, like, did anything, like, actual.

02:34:28.680 Like, we never had sex or anything like that.

02:34:30.400 How old was he?

02:34:31.820 Probably, like, 56.

02:34:33.640 How old were you?

02:34:34.200 Something like that.

02:34:35.040 18.

02:34:35.600 Okay.

02:34:36.240 And how did you meet him?

02:34:38.140 Tinder.

02:34:38.940 Tinder.

02:34:39.260 Tinder.

02:34:39.660 Okay.

02:34:40.200 He had, like, some really weird, like, niche kinks.

02:34:43.700 Niche kinks.

02:34:44.620 Okay.

02:34:45.040 Yeah.

02:34:46.320 So what was the nature of the exchange between you two?

02:34:49.240 A lot of FaceTime or, like, texting.

02:34:52.180 He really just liked to have somebody to talk to.

02:34:54.520 And I did go to his house one time.

02:34:56.600 And he had a, he called it a clothing fetish.

02:34:59.460 He liked to buy clothing for women and have them just try it on.

02:35:02.860 So I basically just got a bunch of free clothes.

02:35:05.460 I love that.

02:35:06.000 And so you said FaceTime, texting, he would pay you?

02:35:10.940 Yeah.

02:35:11.500 How much was he paying you?

02:35:13.080 He would, like, sometimes, like, just demo me, like, $200 and be, like, just get on FaceTime

02:35:17.420 for a bit.

02:35:18.620 But he was, like, really annoying in the end.

02:35:20.640 And so I stopped talking to him.

02:35:21.900 And how much for the in-person hangout?

02:35:24.500 It would depend.

02:35:25.740 He would usually, like, just kind of, like, hand out cash as it went on.

02:35:29.980 But he would also, like, buy me clothing or, like, take me out to eat.

02:35:33.120 I only went to see him, like, two times.

02:35:34.940 And then really never again.

02:35:35.840 You said you went to dinner once or something?

02:35:37.520 Yeah, we went to Nobu.

02:35:38.960 Nobu.

02:35:39.400 How much is Nobu?

02:35:40.520 How much does that cost?

02:35:41.180 It was, like, $1,500.

02:35:43.720 In the $1,000?

02:35:44.560 No.

02:35:45.220 Wait, $1,000?

02:35:46.180 I don't know.

02:35:46.780 Like, for a regular dinner, yeah.

02:35:49.420 For, like, a two-person dinner, it's, like, $500.

02:35:51.620 It's expensive.

02:35:52.400 He spent, like, $1,500 at the dinner.

02:35:54.220 But he was, like, just, like, buying drinks and, like, everything.

02:35:57.620 Oh, that's why I asked.

02:35:58.300 And then, so, how much for texting would he pay you?

02:36:01.260 It wasn't ever, like, a set amount for texting so much.

02:36:04.040 He would just kind of text.

02:36:05.000 But he, like, had really weird hours.

02:36:07.860 So it would be, like, 3 a.m. in the morning.

02:36:09.820 And he would just be, like, blowing up my phone.

02:36:11.760 And then he'd, like, send me money if I wasn't responding.

02:36:14.260 Yeah.

02:36:14.720 With the intent that I should respond, I guess.

02:36:16.600 How much money do you think total he sent?

02:36:19.640 That I made in total?

02:36:20.720 Yeah, from him.

02:36:21.760 Probably, like, $4,000.

02:36:23.420 And it was only, like, within a month span.

02:36:25.400 One month.

02:36:26.060 Yeah.

02:36:26.360 Okay.

02:36:27.220 And then you said there was another sugar daddy?

02:36:31.000 There were just some other, like, older guys that I, like, tried to match with on Tinder.

02:36:34.360 You tried to match with them.

02:36:35.460 Well, I did match with them.

02:36:36.740 But, like, they either wanted to, like, actually have sex or it just never really happened.

02:36:41.420 Anything happened.

02:36:44.060 How would, like, were they up front about wanting to be sugar daddies?

02:36:48.860 Or was this something that you were kind of soliciting?

02:36:52.220 The one guy that I actually did see in person, he was very up front about it.

02:36:56.200 It was, like, a regular thing he did.

02:36:58.180 Okay.

02:36:59.300 The other ones, not so much.

02:37:01.300 Sometimes, like, I would have, like, older guys on Tinder would, like, message me and be, like, I'll pay you this much for this or this.

02:37:08.120 Yeah.

02:37:09.180 Yeah.

02:37:09.480 Okay.

02:37:09.760 Was it because they were ugly that you didn't do it?

02:37:11.560 Or was it because, like, what Daisy said earlier was, like, if they're ugly, it's kind of creepy.

02:37:15.200 But if they were kind of cute, you would, like, do it.

02:37:18.500 Yeah.

02:37:18.840 Honestly, that is kind of real.

02:37:20.080 Like, if they were ugly, I was like, okay, that's gross.

02:37:22.080 But if they were cute.

02:37:22.960 But, like, I never actually wanted to have sex with any of them.

02:37:26.940 Like, I wasn't going to do, like, sex for money.

02:37:29.280 Sure.

02:37:29.840 Okay.

02:37:30.280 Yeah.

02:37:30.980 Did you ever send, like, lewd pictures or?

02:37:35.080 I took photos from Pornhub and sent it to them.

02:37:38.040 So, fraud?

02:37:38.940 Yeah.

02:37:41.740 So, you would send him nude photos?

02:37:43.800 Like, one time.

02:37:45.200 He never really wanted that.

02:37:46.040 How much did he pay for that?

02:37:47.500 Probably, like, 50 bucks or something.

02:37:49.140 Oh.

02:37:49.500 Damn.

02:37:49.700 Not, like, feet pics or something?

02:37:51.560 I would love to find somebody that wants feet pics for money.

02:37:54.360 That would be great.

02:37:55.140 Okay.

02:37:55.820 All right.

02:37:56.680 Okay.

02:37:57.040 You had a sugar daddy.

02:38:01.180 What about you?

02:38:02.140 Yeah.

02:38:03.160 Oh, me?

02:38:05.460 How many have you had?

02:38:06.480 I'm going to pass it to you.

02:38:07.720 How many have you had?

02:38:09.500 How many have I had?

02:38:10.500 Yeah.

02:38:10.780 How many sugar daddies have you had?

02:38:11.940 This is your question.

02:38:13.920 That was not my question.

02:38:16.240 It was not my question.

02:38:19.060 That I can pinpoint.

02:38:24.440 Maybe, like, a good handful.

02:38:27.040 How would you meet them?

02:38:28.660 Well, that's not very, hang on.

02:38:30.680 That's not very pinpoint.

02:38:32.240 You say, so pinpoint is to be very precise.

02:38:37.140 I have had this many.

02:38:39.260 Saying a handful.

02:38:40.280 I'll be vague.

02:38:40.680 That's not very precise, right?

02:38:42.380 I'll be vague.

02:38:44.220 Yeah, it's very vague.

02:38:46.060 Very vague.

02:38:47.320 Very not cutesy.

02:38:48.800 I'm just playing.

02:38:49.220 No, so I, at one point, so I'll tie it back to when I got out of, like, my religion and

02:38:57.020 went to school, paid for my tuition.

02:38:58.420 I did, at one point, dance, and that...

02:39:05.040 Wait, wait, wait.

02:39:06.020 Hang on.

02:39:06.500 Now, when you say, when you say dance, right?

02:39:10.760 So that just sounds like saying to me, supercalifragilisticexpiality, it means nothing, right?

02:39:15.820 It means nothing to me.

02:39:16.920 What does dance mean, actually, when you say dance?

02:39:21.160 If I had to put a point on sugar daddies, I would say that I've had a good handful would

02:39:25.660 mean, like, five.

02:39:27.360 Five.

02:39:27.820 Handful, five.

02:39:29.400 Yeah, but what does dance mean?

02:39:31.480 How long were you a stripper for?

02:39:32.860 I was dancing for, like, a year.

02:39:35.900 Yeah, I was stripping.

02:39:36.980 Okay.

02:39:37.460 Stripping.

02:39:38.460 Stripping for, like, a year.

02:39:40.180 Okay.

02:39:40.460 It was pre-pandemic, so...

02:39:44.640 So getting into the sugar daddy thing, you said you had about five.

02:39:47.360 You're more open to it.

02:39:48.300 So, like, when you go to the clubs, it would be more, like...

02:39:51.360 You don't need to justify it.

02:39:52.400 That's fine.

02:39:53.060 Oh, no, I'm getting closer to the answer of, like, the sugar daddy part.

02:39:55.640 So you'd meet sugar daddies there, whatever.

02:39:57.800 Sometimes it'd be a ghost.

02:39:58.540 Sometimes I wouldn't, which ties me back to my answer.

02:40:01.220 It would be a handful of sugar daddies, where it'd be, like, here's some money.

02:40:05.640 I want to come support you.

02:40:06.940 You look great.

02:40:08.440 Here.

02:40:09.100 Let me praise you as a woman.

02:40:11.600 Boom.

02:40:12.200 There's that.

02:40:13.200 What was the age, typically, in their 40s, 50s?

02:40:17.180 Yeah.

02:40:17.680 Anywhere from, like, not even that.

02:40:19.280 30s.

02:40:19.960 20s.

02:40:20.440 20s.

02:40:21.060 Okay.

02:40:21.380 Like, they're not obviously daddies, but they...

02:40:23.920 So this...

02:40:24.660 I mean, we can talk about what was going on at the club, but I'm assuming when you're

02:40:27.660 talking about sugar daddies, this is outside the club, correct?

02:40:30.440 Yeah.

02:40:30.900 Okay.

02:40:31.600 And so...

02:40:32.400 I did have a seeking arrangement at one point, which is sugar daddies.

02:40:36.040 But so, of your sugar daddies, did you meet all of them at the club?

02:40:39.960 Or how many did you meet from seeking?

02:40:42.040 I would say, like, two in club, three in seeking.

02:40:46.460 Okay.

02:40:47.100 So let's talk.

02:40:47.780 The guy who spent the most on you, let's start there.

02:40:51.880 How much total did he spend?

02:40:53.620 On a monthly basis, I would say $3,000 to $4,000.

02:41:00.600 $3,000 to $4,000.

02:41:01.860 Okay.

02:41:02.660 And how long was this going on for?

02:41:07.360 Like, a year.

02:41:09.200 Okay.

02:41:09.480 So total, would you say this guy who spent the most on you spent $40,000, $50,000?

02:41:17.300 Is that fair or more?

02:41:18.600 If that's the math, yeah.

02:41:21.600 Okay.

02:41:22.360 Well, so was he giving you an allowance, essentially?

02:41:26.060 But then was he spending more on top of that?

02:41:29.200 Yeah, because they were farther away.

02:41:31.420 So it was mainly, like, like she was saying, like, videos and stuff like that.

02:41:34.540 It was a lot of feet pictures, too.

02:41:37.100 Oh, okay.

02:41:37.660 Like, videos and stuff of my feet.

02:41:41.160 Sure.

02:41:41.520 And then it'd be more, so, like, send me videos of you, like, pushing your toots together.

02:41:46.960 It'd be, like, send me some videos of you, like, angled in a certain way.

02:41:52.200 Okay.

02:41:53.180 And did you ever meet him in person?

02:41:55.520 Actually, one turned into, like, a dating, and it was the one that spent the most.

02:42:03.840 Wait.

02:42:04.720 One turned into dating.

02:42:06.020 Wait, but the guy who was giving you $3,000 to $4,000 a month, is that the guy who spent the most or no?

02:42:10.020 Yeah.

02:42:10.640 That's the guy who turned into dating.

02:42:12.160 Yeah.

02:42:13.120 So that's why, like, when I said, like, sugar daddy, like, it was, like, sugar daddy, but it turned into, like, a semi-relationship, really.

02:42:17.860 How soon into the sugar daddy, like, one month in?

02:42:22.040 No, like, six months in.

02:42:23.680 And it came up to a conversation of, like, when you're already giving that money, and you want to have a relationship, comes to a conversation of, like, am I still going to give you the money?

02:42:32.440 Like, this was the relationship when it started, so I would think so.

02:42:35.480 Did he?

02:42:37.560 I feel like he was trying to, like, cut it, like, skimp it short, yeah.

02:42:40.500 But then I always read back to, like, this could possibly be a relationship, but it couldn't because they were also married, had kids.

02:42:46.780 So it's, like, you have.

02:42:47.600 Oh, he was married.

02:42:49.400 Well, they've been married.

02:42:50.760 They weren't married when we were talking.

02:42:52.420 So they were, yeah, they were divorced.

02:42:54.260 They were divorced.

02:42:55.380 Yeah, so they had the, like, the whole thing of getting married, having kids, and, like, I had not had that, so it's, like, I don't know how you would want me to, like, that's something that I want to experience.

02:43:03.880 Prior to getting into the relationship, had you guys had sex?

02:43:07.660 No.

02:43:08.660 So he was sugar daddy six months, then you guys get into a relationship, then you guys have sex.

02:43:15.340 Yeah, but it wasn't, like, sexual.

02:43:16.600 It was more oral.

02:43:17.260 Like, when we first, like, started meeting up, it was just, like.

02:43:20.460 What?

02:43:22.340 Like, you would give him oral?

02:43:24.400 It would, yeah, it'd be, like.

02:43:25.820 Is that sexual?

02:43:26.400 He would give you?

02:43:27.440 I mean, yeah, that's sexual.

02:43:28.740 Okay, like, yeah, that is sexual.

02:43:30.560 You're not, rephrase.

02:43:31.360 So, yes, it was more so, like, orally, like, between, like, him and I, but it comes with fantasy, so it came with him being fantasized of, like, him playing with, me playing with myself, not him playing with myself, me playing with myself.

02:43:46.440 Huh?

02:43:47.280 Uh-huh.

02:43:48.460 Huh?

02:43:49.340 And.

02:43:50.560 Huh?

02:43:51.280 Sorry.

02:43:52.340 And, yeah, like, yeah, then it just came to a point where he, like, did start asking for more, and then it came to, like, very, like, awkward, and, like.

02:43:59.160 What do you mean, asking for more?

02:44:00.520 Like, when are you going to, like, toss my salad?

02:44:07.060 What?

02:44:09.080 Okay.

02:44:10.440 Wow.

02:44:11.000 And I'm like, look, I'm going to be, girl, I do, like, Caesar salads, but I don't toss them.

02:44:14.820 Okay.

02:44:16.400 But, and it kind of got a little uncomfortable, because that's something that I not had been into, you know?

02:44:21.380 So, that was the deal breaker for him?

02:44:23.400 A year into the, you guys talking to each other was.

02:44:26.100 I don't eat ass.

02:44:27.180 You wouldn't toss a salad?

02:44:28.880 Yes.

02:44:29.360 I wouldn't toss.

02:44:29.980 Is that what it means?

02:44:30.520 Tossing salad means eating ass.

02:44:31.980 Are you serious?

02:44:32.700 You don't eat ass?

02:44:33.760 I don't either.

02:44:34.700 Yes.

02:44:35.760 I thought it meant just having sex.

02:44:36.860 Not at all?

02:44:37.500 Ever?

02:44:37.900 That's what I did, too.

02:44:40.100 Doesn't it just taste like Worcestershire sauce, I'm told?

02:44:43.680 What?

02:44:44.120 That's what they said on this?

02:44:45.680 Yeah.

02:44:47.240 That's fucking disgusting.

02:44:48.820 You know what the most embarrassing thing is when, like, you're, like, sexually, and you're, like, yes, I'm getting into it, and you're, like, maybe I'll try it.

02:44:56.660 And then, like, I've had an experience where some guy, like, tilted his legs back, and it was, like, whoa, pause.

02:45:04.140 Pause.

02:45:04.460 I want to go home.

02:45:05.400 I want to go home.

02:45:07.000 I want to go home.

02:45:08.780 What?

02:45:10.100 Okay.

02:45:12.940 So, okay, you had, like, four other sugar daddies.

02:45:16.760 Were you involved with these sugar daddies while you were involved with Maine spending the most on you sugar daddy?

02:45:23.920 No.

02:45:24.860 No.

02:45:25.760 Okay.

02:45:26.480 So, how much were these other guys spending on you?

02:45:29.560 It depends.

02:45:30.620 They'd be, like, oh, well, I'll come support you at the club when I was dancing, and they would, like, spend money on either, like, VIP dances, or they would do, like, stage to, like, flaunt their ego or whatever.

02:45:40.940 Or, like, make money.

02:45:42.020 I'm just talking, like, outside the club.

02:45:43.820 Outside the club?

02:45:44.360 Yeah.

02:45:47.920 Like, no, I might go on dates, and they'll get paid, like, $300, $400 just to go on a date with them.

02:45:52.580 Just to go on a date.

02:45:53.380 Yeah.

02:45:55.340 Bruh.

02:45:56.500 Nice.

02:45:57.140 Light?

02:45:57.600 Okay.

02:45:58.840 Okay, I'll get to you.

02:45:59.920 Okay.

02:46:00.680 Bruh.

02:46:01.160 Bruh.

02:46:01.400 What?

02:46:02.020 Let it out.

02:46:02.540 We're supposed to be open here.

02:46:03.500 I'll get there.

02:46:03.980 I'll get there.

02:46:05.380 You said you had a sugar daddy.

02:46:07.500 Just one?

02:46:08.340 Multiple sugar daddies?

02:46:09.200 I had two.

02:46:09.640 Two sugar daddies.

02:46:10.900 How long did you have each of them?

02:46:12.580 So, one of them lost, like, a week.

02:46:14.620 But he gave me, like...

02:46:15.820 Lasted a week?

02:46:16.740 Yeah.

02:46:17.120 Okay.

02:46:17.700 He gave me, like, $500.

02:46:19.520 Okay.

02:46:19.780 And he DMed me on Instagram.

02:46:21.780 He said, I'll give you money.

02:46:23.300 For this picture.

02:46:24.520 And it was a sponsored bikini picture.

02:46:27.500 And I was just like, well, how much do you want for it?

02:46:29.320 Like, I'll DM it to you.

02:46:31.040 And he's like, I'll give you $500.

02:46:32.440 I said, you're lying.

02:46:33.560 And he's like, what's your Venmo?

02:46:34.780 And I sent it to him.

02:46:35.480 $500 was in my account.

02:46:37.840 Okay.

02:46:38.620 And then...

02:46:39.120 Wait, did you send it?

02:46:40.900 Yeah.

02:46:41.440 Oh, okay.

02:46:41.700 I sent it after.

02:46:42.460 Because I thought he was lying.

02:46:43.320 Yeah.

02:46:44.180 And then the other sugar daddy?

02:46:46.440 I don't know where I met him from.

02:46:48.240 I think we have mutual friends because he's in the military.

02:46:50.800 And he's stationed down in San Diego.

02:46:52.900 And he'll just send me, like, money, like, here and there.

02:46:55.040 Like, he'll be like, hey, like, what are you doing?

02:46:56.880 And I'm like, nothing.

02:46:57.580 He goes, do you want to get your nails done?

02:46:59.080 I'm like, sure.

02:46:59.620 He'll send me, like, $60.

02:47:01.300 Or if he knows, like, I'm going out with friends, he'll send you, like, money.

02:47:03.440 Are you still talking to him?

02:47:04.420 No.

02:47:05.160 This was, like, two months ago.

02:47:08.520 How long were you involved with this guy?

02:47:13.220 Before my last relationship to the current one.

02:47:17.440 It was, like, a three-month time span.

02:47:18.700 So it was, like, then.

02:47:19.760 And then it was, like, on and off for, like, since I was a senior in high school.

02:47:24.320 Or freshman in college.

02:47:25.140 With the sugar daddy?

02:47:25.800 Yeah.

02:47:26.720 So two or three years, then.

02:47:28.760 Yeah.

02:47:29.440 It's been a while.

02:47:29.780 And he would just send you money.

02:47:31.100 How much money do you think total he sends you?

02:47:33.920 Maybe, like, $10,000.

02:47:36.780 How old was he?

02:47:38.000 He's, like, 23.

02:47:40.580 Yeah, because we're only a couple years apart.

02:47:42.140 And you've been, it sounded like you've been in a couple relationships.

02:47:45.620 At any point, were you receiving money from him while you were in a relationship?

02:47:49.880 No.

02:47:50.480 Really?

02:47:51.000 Yes.

02:47:51.940 You can look at my Venmo history.

02:47:53.700 I'll pull that up right now.

02:47:55.120 I'll take your word for it.

02:47:56.540 But you said you were on and off with the sugar daddy for two to three years.

02:48:02.440 And so you said he'd send you $10,000.

02:48:09.100 Did you ever send him any revealing photos or anything like that?

02:48:12.940 No.

02:48:13.260 He just wants someone to talk to him.

02:48:14.540 Just, like...

02:48:14.960 Just talk.

02:48:15.740 Yeah.

02:48:16.020 Did you guys ever meet up in person?

02:48:17.140 Um, we met up one time.

02:48:20.220 It was because there was...

02:48:22.320 It was his family.

02:48:24.280 Or not his family.

02:48:25.040 His brother.

02:48:25.720 I knew his brother.

02:48:27.060 And it was when he was coming back home from basic.

02:48:29.320 And that was the only time I saw him.

02:48:31.180 Did you guys hook up or anything?

02:48:32.740 Nope.

02:48:34.260 I don't know.

02:48:34.740 What...

02:48:35.040 How old was he?

02:48:36.320 At that point?

02:48:37.180 Yeah.

02:48:38.120 19?

02:48:39.220 The fuck are 19...

02:48:40.640 Bro.

02:48:41.660 These fucking guys are ruining the dating marketplace.

02:48:43.520 There are a lot of men in the military that do that.

02:48:46.380 Yeah.

02:48:46.540 I have a lot of friends that...

02:48:47.960 Yeah.

02:48:48.280 Yeah.

02:48:48.700 I have a lot of friends that have told me that men, like army guys or marines, will send

02:48:54.560 them money just because...

02:48:55.860 I don't understand it, but it's very common.

02:48:57.840 Buy a Corvette or some bullshit.

02:48:59.380 Buy a fucking Mustang.

02:49:00.360 Yeah.

02:49:01.140 Waste your money on that shit.

02:49:02.440 Well, really?

02:49:03.480 They'll just send money to just, like, any fat floozy that is around?

02:49:07.640 I mean, that's what you think they do?

02:49:11.080 There are a lot of...

02:49:13.000 Damn, bro.

02:49:13.620 Stuff like that that happens in the military.

02:49:15.020 Honestly, it's the military.

02:49:16.040 You'd be very surprised.

02:49:17.200 It's the plastics in the water, dude.

02:49:20.280 It's sad, but it happens often.

02:49:22.020 What is going on to our men?

02:49:25.040 Damn, that's crazy.

02:49:27.120 You're Christian, right?

02:49:28.840 Me?

02:49:29.200 Yeah.

02:49:29.520 Yes.

02:49:30.080 What denomination?

02:49:31.720 Southern Baptist.

02:49:33.120 Southern Baptist.

02:49:34.100 Okay.

02:49:35.940 You said you did send a guy, like, a bikini photo?

02:49:39.120 Yeah.

02:49:39.760 Okay.

02:49:40.960 Andrew, question for you.

02:49:42.100 Does this...

02:49:43.600 Is that considered sex work?

02:49:47.680 Yes.

02:49:49.660 So how do you reconcile doing sex work with your Christian faith?

02:49:54.220 You think that's sex work?

02:49:55.880 Yes.

02:49:56.440 You sent a...

02:49:57.660 You received money for, like, a...

02:49:59.820 Was it a nude photo, or...?

02:50:01.240 No, it was a bikini.

02:50:02.080 And it's posted on my Instagram, too.

02:50:03.560 How is that...

02:50:05.060 Well, how is that not...

02:50:06.800 The purpose of that is not to sell sexualization for money.

02:50:10.840 How is that not prostitution?

02:50:15.020 I'm trying to think.

02:50:18.320 Well, don't try too hard.

02:50:22.820 That's not what my brain does all the time.

02:50:25.520 It works a little slow.

02:50:26.720 What do you agree that doing...

02:50:31.800 Say, like, a woman does...

02:50:33.520 Hang on.

02:50:33.820 Let her answer, please.

02:50:34.620 Oh, okay.

02:50:36.140 Go ahead, girl.

02:50:36.900 I would say, like, from both point of views, like, yeah, it's something, like, I shouldn't

02:50:40.500 have done in the moment.

02:50:42.800 But I...

02:50:43.720 In the time frame, like, I needed money because there was something going on with my horse

02:50:48.740 and I needed the money.

02:50:49.800 So it was kind of like a...

02:50:51.960 Or not like an ego.

02:50:52.900 It was out of my characteristic or character trait to do that.

02:50:56.420 Would I do that again?

02:50:57.200 No.

02:50:58.220 But on the flip side, I do see how you can see it as it is prostitution in a way.

02:51:03.200 No, no, no.

02:51:03.860 I'm not asking how you think I see it.

02:51:06.720 I've told you how I see it.

02:51:07.880 I'm asking you how that could be anything other than selling sexualization for money.

02:51:14.200 How is it anything other than that?

02:51:17.380 I don't think it is.

02:51:19.040 Yeah.

02:51:19.540 So, I mean, and is that not prostitution?

02:51:23.420 Yeah.

02:51:24.420 Yeah.

02:51:25.020 So you did engage in a form of prostitution, right?

02:51:29.460 Yeah.

02:51:30.880 Saying that is incompatible with Christian ethics, correct?

02:51:33.680 Yeah.

02:51:33.960 I'm so sorry.

02:51:36.720 What the fuck?

02:51:37.880 Damn.

02:51:42.520 I mean, that's all, right?

02:51:44.660 Just, it's fine.

02:51:45.820 Just, you know, like I said, that whole accountability thing.

02:51:50.120 I don't see how it could be anything other than that.

02:51:53.240 That's all.

02:51:54.280 It does come, like, yeah, the accountability part.

02:51:56.600 I think that, like, a lot of people are like, it sounds weirder than when you, like, lay it down.

02:52:01.120 And when it's laid down and when you say it and you break it up like you just did, it's like,

02:52:04.700 oh, my God.

02:52:07.900 Yeah, well, I agree with you.

02:52:09.840 So I think you make a great point here with the normalization in society, how people can kind of do all sorts of mental gymnastics,

02:52:17.580 but they don't think the thing that they're engaging in is the thing they're engaging in.

02:52:22.060 And there's all sorts of societal pressures and this and that.

02:52:25.460 But I don't think that that gives you a pass on the accountability front, right?

02:52:29.280 So I think that recognizing that you did what you did, taking accountability for it,

02:52:36.180 that's how you actually move past, you know, the actual thing itself.

02:52:41.140 That's what I think.

02:52:43.600 Does that make sense?

02:52:46.640 Or am I speaking in Spanglish here?

02:52:49.540 No, I agree.

02:52:50.160 Es muy claro.

02:52:51.540 Do you like?

02:52:52.420 Es muy claro.

02:52:53.280 Yeah, I regret it because it was a hard point in my life, so.

02:52:59.720 Yeah, right, but that's not accountability.

02:53:02.000 That's a justification, right?

02:53:03.460 Not accountability.

02:53:04.740 It's like, yeah, I regret doing it, but here's my justification for why.

02:53:11.340 It's like, really?

02:53:13.780 Well, I won't do it again.

02:53:15.020 So let me kind of give you a little bit of pushback here.

02:53:17.860 If anybody came to you who was a friend of yours, who was a Christian,

02:53:22.900 said, think about engaging in prostitution, would you allow any justification for it?

02:53:27.700 No.

02:53:28.580 No.

02:53:29.760 So, I mean, that's that, right?

02:53:31.440 So there's no reason to ever make the justification, just the responsibility aspect,

02:53:35.440 and that's what will always make you stand out from my perspective.

02:53:41.500 You hear one, take one.

02:53:43.120 And so I think that, like...

02:53:43.960 You had a sugar daddy, correct?

02:53:46.140 I've had, yeah.

02:53:46.720 More than one?

02:53:48.200 Yes.

02:53:48.620 Were you a dancer too?

02:53:50.100 No.

02:53:50.560 Two is crazy.

02:53:51.420 Okay.

02:53:51.680 I can't dance, unfortunately.

02:53:54.280 Fair enough.

02:53:55.060 She could cry.

02:53:55.540 By dance, you mean stripping?

02:53:57.920 Yes.

02:53:58.400 Okay.

02:53:59.800 How many sugar daddies have you had?

02:54:02.880 I don't think I've ever really kept count.

02:54:04.680 I mean, to me, a sugar daddy is just anybody that pays you for, like, your time.

02:54:10.020 So I did go through a phase where I was on a website where...

02:54:14.760 Secret?

02:54:15.500 No, it's different.

02:54:16.340 It's called whatsyourpries.com.

02:54:19.240 This is a new one.

02:54:20.220 What's your prize?

02:54:21.500 I have not...

02:54:22.000 I've used that one.

02:54:23.200 She's like, yeah.

02:54:24.160 You've had more than five sugar daddies.

02:54:27.100 Okay.

02:54:28.000 So you've had a handful of...

02:54:31.640 A lot.

02:54:32.220 More than 10?

02:54:33.080 Yes, definitely.

02:54:33.840 More than 20?

02:54:34.440 Well, yes.

02:54:35.280 More than 30?

02:54:36.120 Probably, yes.

02:54:36.980 More than...

02:54:37.540 Have you done...

02:54:37.980 I did it for, like, a year, so yes.

02:54:39.860 How many?

02:54:40.160 I've had probably, like...

02:54:41.340 A hundred?

02:54:42.980 Yes.

02:54:43.640 No.

02:54:44.260 A hundred?

02:54:45.380 Yes.

02:54:45.800 When they paid for your time.

02:54:48.720 A hundred different men.

02:54:49.760 Do you want me to tell you how the website works so that way you don't question my, like,

02:54:52.500 oh, my God, I'm rich?

02:54:54.040 It was more so, like, on what's your prize?

02:54:56.500 It's like they agree on a date with you, right?

02:54:59.920 So you send...

02:55:01.360 Either you send them or they send you a request where it's, like, $200 for a date, just first

02:55:05.700 date.

02:55:06.320 So then you can either accept or, like, ask for more, ask for whatever you want.

02:55:11.100 So then once you guys agree on a price for that first date, you guys go on a date, they

02:55:15.580 pay you, and it's just for the first date.

02:55:18.280 And then if you wish to continue or not, then that's different.

02:55:21.780 So I went on a lot of first dates for, you know, $200 to $500.

02:55:26.120 Yeah, I'm looking at the website, it says $126 is the average offer amount, $56 million.

02:55:32.640 It is the average.

02:55:33.340 Does she look average?

02:55:34.340 Five.

02:55:35.300 I mean...

02:55:36.660 So it was never, like, consistent.

02:55:38.920 I've only had probably, like, three consistent ones.

02:55:42.580 Oh, okay.

02:55:45.620 Okay.

02:55:46.280 What's your price.com?

02:55:47.200 But, yeah, the average for first dates is usually, like, probably less for most people.

02:55:52.760 For me, my minimum was always $200 for a date.

02:55:58.280 And you said you went on over 100 dates?

02:56:01.180 I did it for a year or so, and I did a lot.

02:56:03.180 So what was this like?

02:56:05.240 How did you establish that?

02:56:08.080 How did you establish that you expected $200 to be paid on the date?

02:56:12.380 Well, for me, it was just, like, I thought, like, $200 was, like, okay, like, it's enough

02:56:17.760 to pitch in for rent, bills, and all that, so I didn't really expect more for a first

02:56:23.740 date.

02:56:24.460 Okay, so what was the average age of the men, would you say, that you were going on?

02:56:29.080 30s.

02:56:29.940 30s.

02:56:30.660 Okay.

02:56:32.160 Of the...

02:56:32.880 And how many...

02:56:33.820 You said over 100 different dates?

02:56:35.440 Probably, yeah.

02:56:36.220 Did you ever go on a second date with any of these guys?

02:56:38.380 Yes.

02:56:39.040 Okay.

02:56:39.820 But it was 100 individual men that you went on dates with?

02:56:43.020 Yeah, throughout the year.

02:56:44.180 Okay, and did you date any of them?

02:56:51.180 Date as in, like, actually wanted something with them?

02:56:54.540 Like, yes.

02:56:55.160 No.

02:56:55.980 So your intentions to be on the app were solely to make money?

02:56:59.740 Correct.

02:57:00.660 I mean, this is not a very good endorsement of this app, because the guys, I assume, want

02:57:08.420 to go on a date, they're even willing to pay for it in the hopes of getting into a relationship

02:57:14.000 you went on 100 plus.

02:57:16.200 Wait, question.

02:57:17.500 So you said you went on, like, second dates?

02:57:20.500 Yes.

02:57:21.300 Third dates?

02:57:22.160 Yeah.

02:57:22.680 Would you, like, what's the most amount of dates that you went on with one guy?

02:57:26.800 I would say only three of them were, like, actually, like, I would actually, like, see

02:57:32.740 them more than once, like, maybe, like, once a week.

02:57:35.040 Okay.

02:57:35.500 And they would continue to pay you for dates, right?

02:57:37.520 Correct, yes.

02:57:37.940 Would they have to pay you more for follow-up dates, or the same?

02:57:40.160 No.

02:57:40.780 Just the same.

02:57:41.460 Sometimes they'd give me more, though, depending on, like, what I needed help with.

02:57:44.680 Now, of the 100 plus men that you met from this website, did you sleep with any of them?

02:57:50.100 No.

02:57:50.840 Okay.

02:57:54.760 And, trying to think here.

02:57:58.800 It's a great website.

02:58:00.040 I've also used that website.

02:58:01.160 It's a good website.

02:58:02.300 It's a really good website.

02:58:04.620 Wait, you've used it?

02:58:05.480 I have used that website.

02:58:06.960 You didn't tell us about the website.

02:58:08.140 Well, I honestly kind of forgot about it.

02:58:09.960 This is new to me.

02:58:11.380 I've never heard about this before.

02:58:12.960 I'm surprised I haven't heard about it sooner.

02:58:14.780 He's like, I'm going to go sign up later.

02:58:16.300 No, I ain't paying.

02:58:17.460 I don't care how hot a girl is.

02:58:19.180 I ain't spending a fucking dollar to pay.

02:58:22.340 I ain't paying a girl to go on a date with me.

02:58:24.920 I've always tried to realize, like, why they do it.

02:58:27.440 But then it also comes to, like, I just.

02:58:29.400 Okay.

02:58:29.940 They're fucking simps.

02:58:30.500 If they're already spending money on a girl, like, let's say when you're dating

02:58:32.840 regular.

02:58:33.380 God damn, bro.

02:58:33.960 You're dating regular, and you're putting so much money on.

02:58:36.840 They're probably thinking, like, well, I'm going to spend this so much anyways.

02:58:40.180 No wonder all these girls things.

02:58:41.120 Wait, I have a question.

02:58:41.560 I have a question for the ladies.

02:58:43.440 Anyone who's had a sugar daddy, do you, like, respect these men?

02:58:48.380 Like, when you are in their presence?

02:58:50.360 Just a show of hands.

02:58:51.260 Yes, do you respect the men?

02:58:53.060 Show of hands.

02:58:54.240 If you don't raise your hand, really?

02:58:57.240 Yes, really.

02:58:57.880 I respect them.

02:58:58.460 You're putting money on it, so let's put some respect on their name.

02:59:00.840 Like, you're doing it out of your own will to do it.

02:59:03.940 You wouldn't date any of them, so you don't respect them.

02:59:07.540 Actually, just because I don't date you doesn't mean I don't respect you.

02:59:09.900 Well, you did date the one guy, I guess, but he was still...

02:59:12.460 But that didn't mean I didn't respect him.

02:59:14.440 Like, there's a difference between respecting and, like, dating.

02:59:16.520 Okay, what about the guys who come to the club?

02:59:18.080 Do you respect them?

02:59:20.060 Or are they marks or whatever?

02:59:22.720 What?

02:59:23.480 What are they called?

02:59:24.340 No, that's for, like, prostitutes.

02:59:25.980 You're talking about Johns.

02:59:27.220 Marks?

02:59:27.540 A mark, a trick.

02:59:28.700 Okay.

02:59:29.140 John?

02:59:29.780 I've never heard of Mark.

02:59:31.160 But, like, also the word trick, right?

02:59:34.100 So you, like, think, like, when they go to the club, like, or when you go to the club,

02:59:37.820 like, people are just there to talk and mingle and stuff.

02:59:40.020 But, like, you can't go to the club and be like, I'm going to make this a boyfriend.

02:59:42.680 Like, you're at the freaking club.

02:59:44.760 Okay.

02:59:47.080 Wait, any of the guys that you talked about were from this website?

02:59:50.000 No, they weren't.

02:59:50.900 Oh, so you got more than...

02:59:52.120 Okay, you were...

02:59:53.020 Well, I honestly forgot.

02:59:54.320 How many dates did you go on from this website?

02:59:55.960 I think I only ended up going on one, and, like, I, like, kind of started messaging a

02:59:59.720 lot of them.

03:00:00.300 I feel like a lot of them knew that it was, like, never going to progress to a second date.

03:00:03.900 Like, they knew they were just paying to go.

03:00:06.500 How much did it cost for you?

03:00:08.620 I think it was, like, only, like, $150 or something.

03:00:11.320 And then you've used this website, too?

03:00:12.620 Anybody, any other girls use this website?

03:00:15.260 Okay.

03:00:15.980 How many dates have you been on from this website?

03:00:18.720 Like, two.

03:00:20.020 Only two?

03:00:20.880 Yeah, only two.

03:00:21.520 Homegirl over here went on $100.

03:00:22.760 Look, she's good at, like, you know what I'm saying?

03:00:24.520 Like, well, there's good things that you're at, and there's good things that you're not

03:00:27.240 at.

03:00:27.460 Like, there's also, like, it also consists of, like, messaging and calling and, like, making

03:00:31.180 sure I'm keeping updated with you.

03:00:32.540 Like, yes, this date's going to happen.

03:00:33.680 Can you ask a question?

03:00:34.340 But then it's also, like, okay, like, yeah, here's a date.

03:00:39.700 Okay, cool.

03:00:40.200 But, like, eh, you know?

03:00:42.220 So with these guys on this specific website, if you were to tell them up front that you're

03:00:46.380 not interested in, like, anything long-term or even, like, maintaining any sort of friendship

03:00:50.740 or relationship, would, do you think that most of them would still have taken you out

03:00:55.340 and paid you?

03:00:56.140 No.

03:00:56.760 Okay.

03:00:57.560 Well, they can't really expect anything.

03:01:00.180 They're going on a website called What's Your Price?

03:01:02.880 Right.

03:01:03.360 What does that entail?

03:01:04.560 Is that, like, what's your price for me to take you out?

03:01:06.820 A hundred percent.

03:01:07.460 That's what it sounds like.

03:01:08.380 That's, like, the marketing of their What's Your Price?

03:01:10.480 Are these guys on there for dating, do you think?

03:01:12.080 Or, like, long-term dating?

03:01:12.900 They want sugar babies.

03:01:14.380 Sugar babies.

03:01:14.900 Oh, my God.

03:01:15.320 They just want it.

03:01:15.900 They're ruining the fucking marketplace.

03:01:17.400 They just want, like, a financial.

03:01:18.880 Yeah, I think they know what they're getting into.

03:01:20.660 Okay.

03:01:20.800 Okay, yeah.

03:01:21.180 Because most of them are unattractive.

03:01:23.200 I've only seen, like...

03:01:25.020 I got a question.

03:01:26.840 Oh, fucking supermodels over here.

03:01:29.520 Like, have you ever been on a date with a sugar daddy and you're just, like, instantly

03:01:32.820 repulsed by them and then you feel like you have to, like, continue the date to, like...

03:01:37.140 Yeah, most of them are repulsive.

03:01:39.240 Really?

03:01:40.100 Just by virtue.

03:01:41.100 I would agree.

03:01:41.700 Just by virtue of them having to pay for your time.

03:01:44.620 Yeah, I agree.

03:01:45.200 Is repulsive.

03:01:46.820 But I'm just wondering if you've ever had to, like...

03:01:48.700 I saw it as, like, a second job, okay?

03:01:50.580 Wait, I don't get...

03:01:51.500 I don't get...

03:01:54.200 I don't get...

03:01:55.440 Why don't these men just get prostitutes?

03:01:59.160 I don't get it.

03:01:59.960 So, that's the thing.

03:02:01.080 A lot of them try to convince themselves that they're not, like...

03:02:05.180 Oh, like, I'm not paying for sex.

03:02:06.720 I'm just, like...

03:02:07.700 Paying for your time.

03:02:08.540 Paying for, like, your time.

03:02:09.800 And if you want to have sex with me, you will because I'm giving you all this money.

03:02:12.740 But it's, like, in their head, I think they're just delusional.

03:02:15.180 Just how, like, most women are delusional.

03:02:16.900 I think there's certain type of men that are delusional, too.

03:02:19.480 Like, they expect so much from a woman just because they take them out on a date.

03:02:23.520 Facts.

03:02:23.880 Even if they pay them or not.

03:02:25.700 Wait a second.

03:02:26.580 Can we back off...

03:02:28.560 Or back up just for a second.

03:02:30.180 Okay.

03:02:30.460 You have had sugar daddies, right?

03:02:33.580 Yes.

03:02:34.880 And you think they're delusional men, so you're taking advantage of delusional people, is what you're saying.

03:02:40.080 Yes.

03:02:42.540 And do you...

03:02:43.540 She's honest.

03:02:45.300 If a man were to take advantage of a delusional woman and have sex with her, would that be okay?

03:02:52.640 I'm not saying what I did was okay.

03:02:54.460 I'm saying...

03:02:55.000 No, no, no.

03:02:55.640 Answer my question first.

03:02:57.000 No, it's not okay for...

03:02:58.420 No, it's not okay.

03:02:59.500 Yeah.

03:02:59.900 Yeah.

03:03:00.160 So why are you taking advantage of delusional men?

03:03:03.120 Because it was a second job.

03:03:04.600 Oh, so if a man said, oh, it was a second job for me to take advantage of delusional women for sex, that would be a good justification, you think?

03:03:15.300 No.

03:03:16.020 I'm not saying my behavior was, like, correct.

03:03:19.340 What I did was totally in the wrong, but I still did it, right?

03:03:24.780 I'm taking accountability for it.

03:03:25.920 So I have a question on this.

03:03:27.660 You did say there were a couple guys who you'd go on multiple dates with.

03:03:30.640 Were you kind of...

03:03:33.640 Manipulative?

03:03:35.620 Yeah.

03:03:36.000 Yes.

03:03:36.600 Like, you were...

03:03:37.420 I love the fucking honesty.

03:03:41.660 Manipulative the delusional?

03:03:44.180 Manipulative.

03:03:45.060 No.

03:03:53.380 Okay.

03:03:56.700 So wait.

03:03:57.260 Yes, I manipulated him.

03:03:58.300 You want to hear my story?

03:03:59.400 Yeah, yeah.

03:03:59.640 So you would, knowing that you had no romantic interest, because I could, you could kind of make the argument that you're like, you go on the first date, and you're like, I'm giving them a chance.

03:04:12.720 But usually for most people, after the first date, they've made a determination as to whether they want to continue seeing this person or not, right?

03:04:20.320 Most people actually make that up within five seconds, five minutes of first meeting somebody.

03:04:25.220 But they'll usually continue on with the date to be polite.

03:04:27.700 But you've had the first date with these men.

03:04:29.940 Some of them, you'd continue to have, you know, second, third, fourth dates.

03:04:33.980 Did you make the determination on the first date with these men that you continued to go on dates with, that you had zero romantic interest in them, and that there would never be anything?

03:04:44.360 I didn't hear the first part of the question, but, like, no, like, I didn't ever want anything romantic out of any of them.

03:04:53.280 Right.

03:04:54.040 So, I mean, you were just doing it for the money.

03:04:56.980 For the money.

03:04:57.600 Correct.

03:04:57.800 Because I could sort of get it where the girl's like, well, if I'm going to go on these dates, look, I disagree with it, but I at least want it to be worth my time.

03:05:08.680 And maybe I will find a guy who I'll like, potentially.

03:05:13.660 I'm open to the idea of dating one of these men who's paying this money.

03:05:16.440 But I think, and I'm not even prepared to even grant that that's the case for most of these women, even on the first date.

03:05:23.940 But let's say it is.

03:05:26.040 But it does kind of call into the question, once you start going on multiple dates with them, where I'm like, okay, now you're milking.

03:05:34.080 Now it's like there's not even a shot in hell, a chance in hell.

03:05:38.780 Any of these men have a romantic or sexual chance with you.

03:05:42.280 And so that's a bit of a quarrel I have there.

03:05:44.640 Where it's like, I can at least give you a pass if you're like, well, I'm giving them a shot for the first date.

03:05:52.380 But I'm still not giving you a pass even for that.

03:05:55.440 But if I'm being charitable, I will.

03:05:57.400 But I'm not.

03:05:58.620 But why would I give them a shot if I'm not attracted to them?

03:06:02.520 Well, don't they have their photos on the thing?

03:06:04.840 Yeah, but what I'm saying, though, is like, so after I go on the date to obviously make money,

03:06:10.480 why would I continuously give them a shot if, like, I don't, I'm not attracted to them?

03:06:16.540 And if it was just for the money, yeah, I see what you're pointing.

03:06:19.460 But you would, I guess I'm kind of getting at is, would you lead them on, because there's, it takes two to tango, right?

03:06:26.060 So you have to want to continue to go on the dates to make more money.

03:06:30.500 But they have to continue to want to go on the dates because they think it will be in pursuit of a potential romantic relationship.

03:06:38.300 No.

03:06:38.880 So are you essentially playing a game where it's like you're feigning romantic interest in them?

03:06:46.480 No, they want, at the end of the day, most of them, like, I know they wanted, like, sugar babies, right?

03:06:51.480 So this was when I was, like, 19, 20 at the time.

03:06:54.600 Okay.

03:06:54.860 Um, most of them just wanted sexual encounters without, like, having, like, um, in the back of, in my opinion,

03:07:02.500 I think they just didn't want in the back of the mind that they were going to a prostitute.

03:07:05.360 I think they wanted to, like, believe that they were dating the person that, like, they were going to hook up with.

03:07:11.640 Like, I think all of them wanted to hook up with me, and I did give them the idea that, like,

03:07:15.900 because my whole facade was that, like, I was super religious, and I was, like, going to be interested in, like, dating them.

03:07:22.760 Facade is crazy.

03:07:23.620 That was my story.

03:07:25.640 That was, like, my story.

03:07:26.700 I would tell them, like, I'm looking, I would lie to them, yeah.

03:07:29.540 I would lie to them saying, like, oh, yeah, like, I want to date you, and, like, it can become sexual, like, if, like, I want to be in a relationship with you.

03:07:37.560 So, at the end of the day, like, I feel like they were working towards that, even though, like, I mean, for me, it was just, like, all a lie.

03:07:44.160 And then, for one of them, I mean, I think he deserved it because he was married.

03:07:47.680 So, like, that's the one that, like...

03:07:51.760 You milked him?

03:07:54.000 I milked him because he had a whole-ass wife.

03:07:57.360 You should learn your lesson.

03:07:58.960 What's that saying?

03:07:59.640 Learn your lesson.

03:08:00.240 What is that saying?

03:08:01.020 A fool is parted with his money or something?

03:08:03.280 I don't know.

03:08:09.220 I mean, me and Andrew have had a back and forth on this.

03:08:14.160 We agree.

03:08:16.300 I mean, I don't think men should be using these services, and they're kind of...

03:08:21.920 I think they're stupid if they do use them.

03:08:24.620 They are.

03:08:25.000 But, obviously, there's also manipulative women on these services.

03:08:29.460 You're a medium.

03:08:30.260 I don't think it's not.

03:08:31.260 I don't think it's what I mean by kind of this, like, double-standard woman speak that drives me fucking crazy.

03:08:48.500 Just mere moments ago, what I did was wrong, Andrew.

03:08:51.960 I should not have done that.

03:08:53.860 This was incorrect.

03:08:55.360 This was immoral.

03:08:56.480 This was bad.

03:08:57.340 And then, literally, what, 10 minutes later, it's that's what they fucking get.

03:09:01.920 So, you've got to make up your mind.

03:09:03.460 Is that what they get?

03:09:05.280 Or is it that you were doing something that's bad?

03:09:08.900 Like, which one is it?

03:09:11.260 I think it comes to a point, like, nowadays, it's a little bit more, like, accessible.

03:09:15.440 Hang on.

03:09:15.780 Let her answer.

03:09:17.460 Which one is it?

03:09:18.480 Answer.

03:09:18.800 I feel like that's a tough one, because, like, at the end of the day, it's, like, everyone's actions, right, is, like, has consequences.

03:09:27.220 Has consequences?

03:09:29.860 Consequences, yeah.

03:09:30.920 No, consequences.

03:09:31.900 Okay, gotcha.

03:09:32.320 Consequences, right?

03:09:33.200 So, it's, like, their actions of, like, paying a woman to, like, go spend time with them, like, that deserves a consequence that, like, you might get played.

03:09:42.080 Like, I mean, they were smart enough.

03:09:48.900 They build businesses, right?

03:09:51.100 You would think they, like, like a business model to get people in, right, marking all that.

03:09:54.880 So, it's, like, why would you pay a woman to, like, go on a romantic date?

03:10:00.180 Well, wait, wait.

03:10:01.300 It's really funny to me that now suddenly there's some justification here where you're saying, well, wait a second.

03:10:06.860 It's actually really tough for me to decide if I did what I did was wrong or incorrect or whatever.

03:10:11.140 Where, hang on, let me finish now.

03:10:13.780 Whereas, just a few minutes ago, you said, wait, these men were delusional and it's wrong to take advantage of delusional people.

03:10:20.540 So, I would like to know how this isn't a complete and total contradiction because that's exactly what it sounds like.

03:10:26.780 It's a literal contradiction everybody can see.

03:10:29.840 Can you tell us which one is correct?

03:10:32.840 Instead of continuously contradicting yourself, can you just tell us are these delusional men that you took advantage of or did they have it coming?

03:10:41.140 You can't say both, right?

03:10:44.240 No?

03:10:44.800 Am I wrong in thinking, like, both?

03:10:46.140 You can say both if you want to contradict yourself.

03:10:48.700 Is it okay to take advantage of delusional people because they have it coming?

03:10:53.100 That would be the entailment, right?

03:10:54.480 So, either it's okay to take advantage of delusional people because they got it coming because they're delusional or it's incorrect to take advantage of delusional people.

03:11:04.580 So, it's got to be one or the other, right?

03:11:07.360 It depends on the situation.

03:11:09.560 For their situation specifically, right?

03:11:11.640 Because, like, delusional can be, like, in different terms.

03:11:15.800 Like, different people, right?

03:11:16.480 Oh, really?

03:11:17.080 Well, I'm sorry.

03:11:17.920 I thought delusional means disconnected from reality.

03:11:20.680 Okay.

03:11:21.040 Is that, would you agree that that's what delusional, what else could delusional mean besides disconnected from reality?

03:11:25.980 Well, you know how, like, women are delusional with, like, with, like, men and, like, dating?

03:11:30.760 It's going to be a perfect relationship and stuff like that.

03:11:32.640 Yeah.

03:11:33.220 Like, women, women can justify, women justify a lot of, like, men's actions because they're delusional that, like, they think, like, he really means one thing when in reality he doesn't.

03:11:43.620 Well, hang on.

03:11:45.260 Let's back up real quick.

03:11:46.580 Let's just make sure we get this down.

03:11:48.160 Do you agree with me that delusional means disconnected from reality?

03:11:59.480 It's what that comment says, the blame versus fall.

03:12:01.960 I think that makes perfect sense.

03:12:02.840 Yeah, forget the comment.

03:12:03.940 Do you agree with me that delusional means disconnected from reality?

03:12:08.160 Yes.

03:12:08.500 Okay, and if somebody is disconnected from reality, do you think it's okay to take advantage of them because they don't understand that they're being taken advantage of because they're delusional, they're disconnected from reality, right?

03:12:20.920 No.

03:12:22.100 No.

03:12:22.740 So, then, if that's the case, how could they have it coming?

03:12:28.960 I guess it's just more so my bias against these men that just pay for women.

03:12:34.660 Oh, okay.

03:12:35.580 So, I think it's just my bias, but...

03:12:37.640 I don't understand.

03:12:38.160 Do they have it coming or don't they have it coming?

03:12:44.440 They're for sure not coming.

03:12:49.940 No.

03:12:50.880 Well, the right thing to say is no, yes.

03:12:54.080 Okay, but is that what you believe?

03:12:56.860 No.

03:12:57.900 No.

03:12:58.660 So, you do think they have it coming even if they're delusional.

03:13:01.680 So, I just want to let you know there's some entailments there that you should know, right?

03:13:04.960 That means that if there was a woman who was delusional, let's say, was disconnected from reality, if a man took advantage of her for sex, what would your objection then be?

03:13:14.120 It's just bias, right?

03:13:19.600 It's just like, no, I don't, like, agree with that, but...

03:13:22.600 Oh, you don't agree with that.

03:13:24.140 So, now you have a complete double standard and you're contradicting yourself again, right?

03:13:27.920 But who doesn't have a double standard, so...

03:13:29.620 Many people don't have a double standard when it...

03:13:31.980 Or many people don't move into contradiction territory, especially.

03:13:36.320 I can understand even if you said I'm hypocritical, I could even deal with that, but this is literally just a contradiction in terms.

03:13:41.840 It's a contradiction to say, it's wrong for you to take advantage of somebody who's delusional.

03:13:47.060 It's just okay for me to do it because I want to.

03:13:49.560 I don't, like, I don't understand what you're actually saying here.

03:13:52.440 But I'm saying, like, those men, like, that are delusional and paying for women, like, it's okay to take advantage of them.

03:14:02.680 But what I'm not, what I'm saying, what I'm saying, though, is, like, for women, like, for a man to take advantage of a woman or vice versa in, like, the dating realm, I don't think it's right.

03:14:11.420 So, like, oh, what, because it can be, it can be vice versa.

03:14:14.080 Like, a woman can take advantage of a man, too.

03:14:16.320 Hang on, let's back up again.

03:14:17.880 In what fucking world could that ever make sense?

03:14:21.220 In what world does it make sense to say it's okay to take advantage of delusional men for money, but it's not okay for men to take advantage of delusional women for sex?

03:14:29.560 In what fucking world can you square these two ideas?

03:14:32.760 Well, they have the money to spend anyways, so.

03:14:36.000 But she has the sex to give anyways.

03:14:38.420 Yeah, but it's more, like, well, not for every woman, but, like, some women would consider that, like, an emotional.

03:14:45.600 It's like every single thing that you say, everything, every single thing you say can just be applied right back at you, right?

03:14:51.180 It's like, oh, well, they have the money to burn.

03:14:52.920 Well, women have the sex to give.

03:14:54.500 Oh, well, they knew what they were getting into.

03:14:56.300 Okay, well, then they knew what they were getting into.

03:14:57.940 It's like all of these things can be applied in both aspects.

03:15:01.960 So either it's wrong, you did wrong, and you took advantage of delusional people, and that's incorrect.

03:15:08.120 Or you have to bite the bullet that, wait, it's just okay to take advantage of delusional people if you have some motivation that's self-serving.

03:15:15.240 So I just really need to know which one it is.

03:15:19.920 Graffito tagged donated $200.

03:15:22.680 Hey, good to see you back in the chat.

03:15:23.840 You offer a service, have a verbal agreement, and the customer then pays for that service.

03:15:28.980 You now admit you never intended to fully provide the service offered.

03:15:32.980 That's the definition of a scam.

03:15:35.200 But I don't want to be derailed by this because it's worse.

03:15:38.240 It's actually worse.

03:15:38.860 Right, it's worse.

03:15:39.980 Because it's a contradiction in term where you are saying, actually, that delusional men have less value than delusional women.

03:15:48.620 That's what you're actually saying.

03:15:50.020 Delusional men, less valuable than delusional women.

03:15:53.800 Right?

03:15:54.560 Isn't that what you're actually saying?

03:15:58.660 I guess, in a way.

03:16:01.260 But then if she was a man and then doing it, it would be like the same thing.

03:16:05.200 It would be contradicting.

03:16:05.900 She can't really give the standpoint of a male if she's not in that position.

03:16:09.820 So she can say, like, oh, it's delusional for a man to do that.

03:16:12.140 But, like, she can't say it's delusional for a woman because it's not like she's getting paid from women to do it.

03:16:16.780 If it was a woman...

03:16:17.500 We don't need her to.

03:16:18.280 We don't need her to take it from the...

03:16:19.960 Well, you're correct in a sense.

03:16:21.740 I don't need her to take it from a female perspective.

03:16:24.780 I need her to take it from a male perspective, right?

03:16:26.880 So the ask here is, from your perspective, that of the woman, is it okay for men to take advantage of delusional women for sex?

03:16:37.340 The answer is no.

03:16:38.660 Then how could it be okay to take advantage of delusional men for money?

03:16:44.500 The answer is I don't fucking know.

03:16:46.320 So that's why I'm just like, well, can you reconcile these two things so they make sense to me?

03:16:54.640 Like, it's money.

03:16:56.000 Like, it's different, right?

03:16:58.420 So, in my opinion, right, it's like, it's not like I'm making them spend millions, right?

03:17:03.560 I'm not making them go broke.

03:17:05.640 When a woman, like, when a man lies to a woman to get her into bed, like, I feel like they're messing...

03:17:11.900 Versus lying to him for money?

03:17:13.960 Huh?

03:17:14.860 Versus lying to him for money?

03:17:16.640 Correct, yes.

03:17:17.640 I think it's like...

03:17:18.240 Why is there...

03:17:18.780 What is the distinction here?

03:17:20.120 I don't understand.

03:17:20.700 So when a man lies to a woman to get her into bed and, like, makes her think, like, she's, like, the only one or et cetera, it's like, that's, like, feelings, emotions, and trauma.

03:17:29.340 A guy that I take money from is not going to be traumatized at the end of the day.

03:17:33.080 Because they know what they signed up for when you signed up for.

03:17:34.680 Wait, wait, wait.

03:17:35.380 I'm sorry.

03:17:36.000 I'm sorry.

03:17:36.520 Hang on.

03:17:36.740 That's what I was meaning by all of this.

03:17:39.380 First of all, we have a bunch of suppositions here that need to be attacked, right?

03:17:43.460 So the first one is, how can you say that this would always come from trauma if a man is taking care or a man is exploiting a delusional woman for sex?

03:17:52.680 You could never make the claim that that is traumatic while at the same time saying that it could never be traumatic for a man to be exploited for money.

03:17:59.620 How in the world could you ever make those claims?

03:18:04.940 Because how would a man be traumatized for losing $200?

03:18:09.100 Because they feel like they were taken advantage of the same way a woman would if you lied to her for sex, right?

03:18:18.000 No.

03:18:19.280 No.

03:18:19.860 Oh, no.

03:18:20.800 Can a man really be traumatized for that?

03:18:21.920 Can you give me the counter to that besides no?

03:18:25.300 You have a different perspective?

03:18:26.860 Yeah.

03:18:27.080 No, let's not get into your perspective.

03:18:29.640 Let's finish our conversation.

03:18:31.160 So I'm not going to let you duck out of the convo so quickly, unfortunately, for you.

03:18:35.480 So can you reconcile these two positions for me?

03:18:40.380 I thought I explained myself already.

03:18:42.460 I think you didn't really explain yourself at all.

03:18:45.060 I want to know why it's okay to take advantage of delusional men but not delusional women.

03:18:50.180 I actually do want to know why that's okay.

03:18:52.040 I explained it because taking money from a guy where it's like little money, I don't see that being traumatizing, especially since they...

03:19:00.180 What about a little bit of head?

03:19:01.300 If a woman just gives you a little bit of head.

03:19:03.580 If she just gives you a little tiny...

03:19:05.200 Like, she just puts the dick in her mouth for a couple of seconds, right?

03:19:09.740 Is that...

03:19:10.840 You know, that's not really taking that much advantage of her, right?

03:19:14.220 She just...

03:19:14.720 She only put it in her mouth for a couple of seconds, right?

03:19:17.220 Or she only has sex one time with the guy instead of...

03:19:20.780 It's not really taking advantage, right?

03:19:23.120 It's just one time.

03:19:24.360 She just licked the tip.

03:19:25.580 She just licked the tip.

03:19:26.540 It's not really taking advantage, right?

03:19:31.400 How does that correlate with $200 for a date?

03:19:34.140 Because the exploitation is the same.

03:19:36.380 It's the same metric.

03:19:37.380 The idea of the same metric is it's okay to fuck this guy over because it's a small amount of money.

03:19:41.780 It's like, okay, well, then it's okay to fuck her over because it's just a tiny amount of head.

03:19:46.340 Tiny amount of sex.

03:19:47.540 Yeah, but it's not...

03:19:48.360 Tiny amount.

03:19:48.580 But it's not realistic.

03:19:49.300 Yeah, it is realistic.

03:19:51.880 Men take advantage of delusional women for sex.

03:19:54.200 You would agree that that's true.

03:19:55.380 No, but...

03:19:55.700 Women are taking advantage of delusional...

03:19:57.220 A little bit of head is not realistic.

03:19:57.980 Women are taking advantage of delusional men for money.

03:20:00.300 How is this not correlated in the dating market, especially since you just got done telling me

03:20:04.880 all the different times you took advantage of men you consider to be delusional for money?

03:20:09.480 How is this not correlative?

03:20:12.960 Because they just don't correlate with each other.

03:20:15.060 No, because...

03:20:15.780 Because...

03:20:16.700 Well, they're not because they're not.

03:20:20.160 Great.

03:20:20.880 Perfect.

03:20:21.560 You helped me reconcile the two positions.

03:20:23.360 Thank you so much.

03:20:24.400 But wouldn't you say, though, Andrew, that both parties are to blame in that?

03:20:29.300 Or, like, wouldn't you kind of hold both parties accountable for that?

03:20:31.660 Because I feel like they're both kind of the same, you know, the same level, I feel like.

03:20:35.320 I think that you, you, as a person who is not a mentally deranged lunatic, and knowing that

03:20:41.740 you're not a mentally deranged lunatic and are dealing with a mentally deranged lunatic,

03:20:45.580 have a higher duty to not do the wrong thing, specifically because you're not mentally deranged.

03:20:52.340 When you acknowledge the fact, you acknowledge this, this is delusion, this is wrong, this is incorrect, they have wrong think, they're not engaging with the world properly,

03:21:02.800 you know for sure that you're taking advantage of that person.

03:21:05.720 Because that's where the problem comes in, right?

03:21:09.440 So I don't know any of you.

03:21:11.240 I know now, like, for sure, that the woman that I just talked to in the orange is totally delusional, right?

03:21:16.800 Just, like, incomprehensibly delusional.

03:21:18.700 So I know that it's no longer responsible for me to continuously harp on the idea that she's living in all sorts of performative contradictions

03:21:29.520 because it's clear that she's not living in the same reality that I am.

03:21:33.760 So I just move the conversation on, right?

03:21:36.240 Because what else can I do?

03:21:37.480 When you're dealing with somebody who's delusional, what else can you do?

03:21:40.520 But I'm definitely not going to be taking advantage of her for money or taking advantage of her for, you know, any other thing.

03:21:47.800 All I would ever try to do is try to get her to reconcile the contradiction so she wasn't fucking delusional anymore.

03:21:53.780 I think that that is the best thing I could ever do, right?

03:21:57.360 Like, what else could I do?

03:22:02.380 Interesting.

03:22:02.820 Stop being fucking delusional.

03:22:04.280 Interesting.

03:22:06.500 We are going to move on to something else here in just a sec, but it is all your guys' stories on this.

03:22:11.840 I do kind of think, comparatively speaking, that women have dating and life on easy mode compared to men.

03:22:24.560 Anybody, any bites on that?

03:22:27.220 I agree.

03:22:28.040 I totally agree.

03:22:29.140 Oh, okay.

03:22:29.720 All right.

03:22:30.320 It's easy being a girl for the most part.

03:22:32.460 It's really great being a girl.

03:22:33.380 For example, like, OF is, like, such a big thing now because I feel like back then it wasn't.

03:22:37.500 And, like, now, like, when you say, like, entertainment, like, I feel like that's such, like, a big thing now.

03:22:42.040 Wait.

03:22:42.640 Sorry.

03:22:43.300 OF?

03:22:43.760 What?

03:22:44.660 OnlyFans?

03:22:45.240 No, I know what it is, but how does that pertain to?

03:22:48.560 Like, delusional.

03:22:49.700 Like, men pay for that, too.

03:22:51.080 So, it's like.

03:22:51.660 Yeah.

03:22:52.100 They're simps.

03:22:52.620 But, um, I'm curious.

03:22:55.440 It's just, like, crazy to me because.

03:22:57.460 So, going back to you, how much money do you think you've made from that website?

03:23:02.900 Not a lot.

03:23:04.120 I wouldn't say so.

03:23:04.520 Well, you went on over 100 dates.

03:23:06.040 Mm-hmm.

03:23:06.480 Your average, your price was 200 bucks.

03:23:08.700 Mm-hmm.

03:23:09.120 200 times 100 is 20.

03:23:12.920 Is that 20,000?

03:23:14.720 Is my fucking math here?

03:23:16.040 That's 2,000.

03:23:17.420 No.

03:23:17.860 No?

03:23:18.400 Am I wrong?

03:23:19.220 Oh, shit.

03:23:19.740 It's 20,000.

03:23:20.480 Oh, yeah.

03:23:21.000 It's 20,000.

03:23:21.900 Oops.

03:23:22.320 I was thinking something else.

03:23:23.100 20,000.

03:23:23.460 Just reserves.

03:23:24.700 Not good.

03:23:25.000 And it's like, this was over the course of a year?

03:23:28.100 Mm-hmm.

03:23:28.700 Okay.

03:23:29.240 That's, like, a little poverty, so.

03:23:31.780 Well, yeah, but it wasn't your only source of income.

03:23:35.160 How do you know that?

03:23:36.660 Well, maybe it was, but, I mean.

03:23:38.700 You said it was, like, a second job.

03:23:39.740 A second job.

03:23:40.980 Contradicting.

03:23:42.000 It was like a second job.

03:23:44.680 Yeah.

03:23:45.000 I guess.

03:23:47.160 But what's interesting to me is, like, who, any girls here have adult brothers?

03:23:52.760 Yes.

03:23:54.320 Damn.

03:23:54.760 Yeah.

03:23:55.960 Only child.

03:23:56.560 That's it?

03:23:57.620 Wait, adult brothers?

03:23:58.380 Adult brothers.

03:23:59.020 Like, older brothers?

03:23:59.800 18 or over.

03:24:01.000 Okay, yes.

03:24:01.780 Yeah.

03:24:01.980 Older brothers.

03:24:03.000 Like, so, your brothers would be kind of, like, to some degree, you're at least approaching

03:24:10.400 or close to your looks equivalent, right?

03:24:12.660 And it's, like, the sort of attention that you're going to get from men, it, like, completely dwarves

03:24:20.760 the attention that your brothers are going to get from women.

03:24:25.300 And that's always an interesting thing to me is, like, you can take a girl who, like, has insane

03:24:33.640 sexual optionality.

03:24:34.960 She can make money through her looks or whatever.

03:24:37.940 And, like, you look at her brother, who is her genetic counterpart in a male's body, and they

03:24:44.440 are, like, can't get a girlfriend.

03:24:48.280 It's crazy.

03:24:49.280 Like, you look at, it's just wild to me, kind of the differentials here between men and women,

03:24:53.680 even looking, like, within their own genetic, you know, genetic similarity when it comes

03:25:01.160 to a brother.

03:25:01.900 Do you have a sister?

03:25:03.220 I do, yeah.

03:25:04.520 So, like, what would she, what would you do if, like, she did that?

03:25:06.920 Like, do you find it harder to date for yourself than it is for your sister?

03:25:14.780 I mean, me and my sister are very different people.

03:25:18.720 I would suspect, though, for example, if my sister was inclined to have a bunch of casual

03:25:22.660 sex, she could get it way easier than I could.

03:25:27.440 And why do you think that is?

03:25:28.760 Because she's a woman.

03:25:30.240 Do you think it's, like, the womanly part?

03:25:31.800 Do you think it comes with, like, personality?

03:25:33.180 Do you think your sister is more, like, fun than you are?

03:25:35.320 Do you think personality has anything to do with a woman's ability to get laid?

03:25:39.300 Yeah, I do think so.

03:25:40.600 I think confidence is a big one.

03:25:42.360 Personality, if you look, like, sad and, like, depressed and, like, boring, like, you probably

03:25:47.220 won't be as approachable as a girl that's, like, fun and, like, blah, blah, blah, you know?

03:25:51.080 Yeah, that's, uh, sure.

03:25:53.020 I mean, a woman who's got a more, who's more approachable and who's got a more positive

03:25:57.080 disposition, I'll grant you that she'll be able to sleep with 10 men in a day instead

03:26:02.840 of five men in a day.

03:26:04.360 But it doesn't really, you know, like, you can still get laid very easily as a woman.

03:26:11.620 Is it because men have, like, lower standards than women?

03:26:14.100 That's part of it.

03:26:16.080 Also, men have to be the pursuers.

03:26:18.200 But, um, you, you think that it's, do you think it'd be pretty equal between men and

03:26:23.480 women when it comes to getting laid?

03:26:27.580 Getting laid?

03:26:28.720 Yeah, getting laid.

03:26:29.240 Specifically?

03:26:29.900 Yeah.

03:26:30.320 Having sex.

03:26:30.900 I don't know, because, like, for girls, it's not a thing to, like, pay for sex.

03:26:36.160 But a guy would pay for sex, like, let's say if you want to bring a prostitution, like,

03:26:39.400 it's more prone or statistically proven that a man is more likely to pay for prostitution

03:26:44.240 than a female is, right?

03:26:45.580 Yeah.

03:26:45.740 Because it says what you're saying, like, girls are easier to get laid.

03:26:49.000 Okay, yes, but I wouldn't say that it's dependent on, like, a male or a female.

03:26:54.840 Like, I think that, like, it's just, at this point, girls just probably have it a lot easier

03:26:58.660 because, like, of things all around.

03:27:00.520 But, um...

03:27:02.080 Wait, I'm a little confused here.

03:27:03.000 So are you agreeing or disagreeing when it comes to...

03:27:04.820 I totally said that I agree.

03:27:06.020 I agree.

03:27:06.380 Oh, okay.

03:27:06.520 I agree with you, 100%.

03:27:07.840 Yeah.

03:27:08.300 Okay.

03:27:10.440 Men just need to have higher standards, and then women wouldn't...

03:27:14.080 Wait, no, no, but if men...

03:27:15.400 Hold on.

03:27:16.500 So if men had higher standards, it would be harder for them to get laid.

03:27:20.700 But you said that you agree with men having lower standards.

03:27:24.620 No.

03:27:24.820 Sure.

03:27:25.300 Well, the only reason women get laid is because men have lower standards, right?

03:27:29.720 No, that's not true.

03:27:31.300 So what are the standards for men if you, like, think of a realm of, like...

03:27:34.480 Yes, it is.

03:27:34.980 It's not because of that.

03:27:36.180 It is true that men do have lower standards.

03:27:38.460 Okay.

03:27:38.720 And it is also true that women have a much easier time getting laid.

03:27:42.120 But why do women have an easier time?

03:27:44.400 Why?

03:27:46.380 Because men want to have sex with them.

03:27:48.400 Because why do they look good?

03:27:49.520 What's funny is, like, okay, fair enough.

03:27:51.100 You can say men should raise their standards on women before they have sex with them.

03:27:56.500 I agree.

03:27:57.100 I think that they should.

03:27:58.400 Okay.

03:27:58.600 But shouldn't women lower their standards when it comes to marriage and long-term relationships

03:28:02.800 of men so they don't end up being fucking cat ladies, which so many are ending up being

03:28:07.560 in their 40s or ending up being cat ladies?

03:28:09.660 What do you think?

03:28:10.080 I love cats.

03:28:11.120 What do you think?

03:28:11.420 I have two cats.

03:28:12.480 I love them.

03:28:12.900 What do you have against cat ladies?

03:28:14.980 Won't be the only policy.

03:28:16.560 Well, seemingly, at least this is the perspective that I see, is that these cat ladies, when I'm

03:28:23.080 guessing that you have multiple cats.

03:28:24.660 I have two.

03:28:24.900 Is that correct?

03:28:25.380 Yes, I do.

03:28:25.740 Yeah.

03:28:26.360 Yeah.

03:28:26.800 What are their names?

03:28:27.980 That's the stigma.

03:28:28.700 What are your cat's names?

03:28:29.680 My cat's names?

03:28:31.040 Reggie and Wills.

03:28:33.440 Reggie.

03:28:33.940 So you gave them people names.

03:28:35.540 I did.

03:28:35.840 Gave them people names.

03:28:36.620 Nice, strong Englishman names.

03:28:37.980 You didn't even give them animal names.

03:28:40.020 You gave them person names, right?

03:28:41.720 I did.

03:28:41.820 And so this kind of actually shows the void, right?

03:28:45.200 The void of the idea of no children, so I make these, like, fur babies, and I give them

03:28:51.340 people names, and then I anthropomorphize them into people, like Disney does with Bambi, right?

03:28:58.260 Now the deer can talk, and it's like a person.

03:29:00.740 Women do this all the time, but ultimately, they seem to complain incessantly about it

03:29:05.940 by the time they're in their late 30s and 40s when they go, oh, shit, I don't have children

03:29:11.140 and can no longer have children.

03:29:13.460 What the fuck do I do?

03:29:14.760 And you know what the answer is?

03:29:15.960 Play with your kitty.

03:29:16.680 As a 66-year-old man, it gives me some hope that you do what you do, Brian, or remind

03:29:27.080 me of my son.

03:29:28.560 Wow, thank you, man.

03:29:29.500 Andrew, always a pleasure to see you in debates.

03:29:31.680 It's great to see young men bring forth facts and truth.

03:29:35.660 Hey, old man, Mr. Peace, I think this is your first time sending in the message.

03:29:40.080 Really appreciate the message.

03:29:42.680 I remind you of your son.

03:29:44.420 That's kind of a little wholesome moment.

03:29:47.400 And the money.

03:29:47.840 Thank you.

03:29:48.240 Appreciate it.

03:29:48.760 Is that a scam, too?

03:29:50.060 That's cute.

03:29:51.160 No, it's not a scam because they get exactly, they know exactly what they're paying for,

03:29:56.220 and they receive what they're paying for.

03:29:58.560 Oh, like what's your price?

03:30:00.620 So prostitution is okay.

03:30:03.640 Not the same.

03:30:04.120 Because they know what they're paying for, so if you pay for a blowjob, that's okay.

03:30:07.160 I'm sorry.

03:30:07.640 Hang on.

03:30:08.000 Let's back up.

03:30:08.600 Did Brian describe his audience as delusional?

03:30:13.380 No.

03:30:14.020 Did you describe your Johns as delusional?

03:30:17.360 Yes.

03:30:18.420 Do you understand the distinction?

03:30:20.380 Yeah.

03:30:20.480 You described these men as being delusional.

03:30:25.340 So you knew that they were not right in the head.

03:30:28.620 Did Brian describe his audience as being delusional?

03:30:31.460 No.

03:30:31.720 These things do not map on at all.

03:30:34.560 In fact, I even describe my audience as they're absolutely 300 IQ impervious to any sort of hoodwink or scam or razzle-dazzle, impervious to it.

03:30:50.440 They're all giga-chad, super-intelligent, rocket surgeons.

03:30:58.320 Except Giovanni.

03:31:01.720 Yeah, he's an attorney.

03:31:03.700 Go ahead, Matty.

03:31:04.680 He's a real piece of shit, that Giovanni guy.

03:31:07.240 Don't send any more fucking super.

03:31:09.280 Giovanni, you're just scum.

03:31:10.820 You're just a little worse.

03:31:11.920 Go ahead, Matty.

03:31:12.560 I would lie to them to steal their money.

03:31:14.380 So funny and cute, Teehee.

03:31:16.180 But the one was married, so I contributed to his infidelity, Teehee.

03:31:20.760 Literally a foul demon.

03:31:22.720 Foul demon.

03:31:23.260 You foul demon.

03:31:25.180 Foul demon.

03:31:25.260 It was very demonic, not Samira.

03:31:28.320 Oh, right.

03:31:29.700 And then, Matty, this one?

03:31:30.680 I have a question for Andrew.

03:31:32.540 I'm 17.

03:31:33.400 I'm from Australia, and what does the Orthodox say about smoking weed?

03:31:36.640 Because I'm thinking about putting him on self to Christ, but I don't know.

03:31:40.840 Allow weed.

03:31:43.260 Huh?

03:31:43.900 Really?

03:31:44.940 Yeah, yeah.

03:31:45.460 You're going to risk eternal damnation so you can smoke marijuana?

03:31:48.380 That's kind of stupid on the outset, right?

03:31:50.920 But there are exceptions which are made within the church, I'm told, for people who use marijuana

03:31:56.540 for certain purposes, especially medical purposes.

03:31:59.420 But genuinely, it tends to be frowned upon by the church, and why wouldn't it be?

03:32:04.320 But this idea that, like, well, I have to have my weed or else I'm not going to enter into eternal salvation.

03:32:11.160 It's like, well, then don't, dude.

03:32:12.720 I don't care.

03:32:13.620 Right?

03:32:14.640 Go to hell, then, as they say.

03:32:17.440 All right.

03:32:17.920 We have a question from Stifler.

03:32:19.560 Ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10.

03:32:24.040 You can't pick 7.

03:32:25.820 I'm going to start with you.

03:32:28.700 What's my name?

03:32:30.760 Liz, I think.

03:32:31.840 Yeah.

03:32:32.400 It is Liz, Brian.

03:32:33.140 Okay.

03:32:33.680 Thank you.

03:32:34.180 You're welcome.

03:32:34.580 Um, looks, just, like, physically.

03:32:38.280 Mm-hmm.

03:32:38.840 Yeah, just looks.

03:32:39.500 So, if you were to see me, how would I see myself?

03:32:40.960 I would say, like, a 9.

03:32:42.460 Okay.

03:32:43.180 All right.

03:32:44.500 Uh, to you, then?

03:32:46.560 It's good, so many.

03:32:47.560 I'm going to, I'll get you all, but.

03:32:51.060 Do you ever?

03:32:54.200 I'll go by, like, number that most people give me, 8.

03:32:57.600 8?

03:32:58.020 Okay.

03:32:58.380 Or 9.

03:32:59.720 Oh, wait.

03:33:00.280 Let's go to you.

03:33:01.740 I would say 8.

03:33:02.840 I mean, yeah.

03:33:04.100 Okay.

03:33:05.120 Um, like a 6.

03:33:06.800 What?

03:33:08.580 6.

03:33:09.620 I don't think that's a bad number.

03:33:11.200 Into the mic.

03:33:13.120 Um.

03:33:13.460 I think you're beautiful.

03:33:16.700 6.

03:33:17.620 Okay.

03:33:18.520 Under these lights, I look pasty.

03:33:21.100 Um, I would say, you can't, why can't you say 7?

03:33:24.920 Don't pick 7.

03:33:25.720 Why not?

03:33:26.120 Everyone picks 7.

03:33:27.100 Okay.

03:33:27.720 8.

03:33:28.000 7.5.

03:33:28.760 Final answer.

03:33:29.760 8?

03:33:30.160 Yes.

03:33:30.340 Okay, Maddie.

03:33:31.700 People are humbling me, so I'm going to say 6 now.

03:33:34.560 No way.

03:33:35.620 No way.

03:33:36.200 No way.

03:33:36.660 Was it from the IRL?

03:33:37.980 Brian, what would you see yours?

03:33:39.240 I've been getting so many DMs, like, Maddie, you're definitely not a DM.

03:33:42.840 Damn.

03:33:43.980 No, somebody said earlier, they were like, you're like the most, like, non-catfish person.

03:33:49.660 Like, I think I saw it, like, I was like, who's Maddie?

03:33:51.020 And then, like, you said Maddie, and I was like, okay, that's for sure.

03:33:52.840 That's great.

03:33:53.080 That's nice.

03:33:53.840 I give myself a 5.

03:33:55.860 Although, I'm kind of, I feel like I got to downgrade a little bit.

03:33:59.080 I'm going to give myself a 4.5.

03:34:01.260 What?

03:34:02.540 That higher helps for you.

03:34:03.780 Because of us.

03:34:05.020 Makes you two of us.

03:34:06.620 Yeah.

03:34:07.620 I'm a 4.5 right now.

03:34:09.180 You were a 6 last year.

03:34:10.680 I gained some weight, so definitely downgrade it.

03:34:14.920 Andrew, what do you rate yourself?

03:34:16.620 3.5 without a beard.

03:34:20.580 3.5.

03:34:21.420 Okay, downgrade.

03:34:22.160 We're all downgrading.

03:34:23.700 I like the beard.

03:34:24.880 Without the beard, a 3.5 with the beard.

03:34:26.520 I'd be grown and hairy.

03:34:27.500 A solid 4.

03:34:29.260 Okay, there you have it.

03:34:30.780 There you have it.

03:34:32.920 So, wait.

03:34:33.960 9, 8, 8?

03:34:35.960 Okay.

03:34:37.140 Damn, don't humble me.

03:34:38.160 Wait, so you gave yourself the highest rating.

03:34:42.140 Do you think you're the most attractive girl here at the table?

03:34:45.120 No.

03:34:45.520 100% I don't think that.

03:34:46.940 I mean...

03:34:47.500 Just the most...

03:34:48.220 Would you say that that's insecurity?

03:34:50.940 Actually, no, because I'm not here to compare, but I do think highly of myself, and I would

03:34:54.780 say that I consider myself a 9, and that's just what I think.

03:34:57.060 Do you think that people who think highly of themselves, when that thinking of them thinking

03:35:03.280 highly of themselves isn't warranted, would that be considered narcissism or possibly

03:35:08.380 insecurity?

03:35:09.680 Oh, my God.

03:35:10.840 Probably, but I don't.

03:35:12.540 I mean, he just asked what do I view myself as, and that's what I view myself as.

03:35:16.000 Wait, wait.

03:35:16.280 I'm sorry.

03:35:16.780 Are you the most beautiful woman at the table?

03:35:20.840 Don't compare yourself.

03:35:24.300 I...

03:35:24.540 From your perspective, are you the most beautiful woman at the table?

03:35:27.160 I think we're all equally beautiful.

03:35:29.960 That's not even possible.

03:35:31.900 Erroneous!

03:35:33.060 Erroneous!

03:35:34.040 How could it even be possible to state that you guys, literally all of you, are night and

03:35:41.560 day in looks from each other?

03:35:43.380 You look completely different.

03:35:44.500 You have different facial shapes, different body shapes, different shapes across the board.

03:35:49.540 How is that even possible to say?

03:35:51.940 It's like saying squares and triangles and circles are all the same thing.

03:35:55.900 It makes no sense at all.

03:35:57.420 Right, but you're thinking, you're asking for now my opinion on how I view other people.

03:36:01.240 Yes, your actual opinion.

03:36:02.300 Your real opinion, not your bull...

03:36:03.820 Don't bullshit me.

03:36:05.160 I'm not bullshitting you.

03:36:06.460 I'm just saying, I think that I'm a fucking nine, and I do think that these women are beautiful.

03:36:10.180 When she said she was a fucking five or six, and I was like, damn, you could have gave

03:36:13.480 yourself a few more.

03:36:14.160 Do you think it's just like the most beautiful women on planet Earth come to the whatever podcast,

03:36:18.180 that they're just all gorgeous, all of them, every single one?

03:36:21.940 I'm sorry, are you asking me?

03:36:23.140 I'm a great talent recruiter, obviously.

03:36:25.140 Yeah, is it just so happened that since almost every woman on the whatever podcast rates

03:36:31.440 themselves close to a nine or a ten, that Brian just so happens to be a recruitment genius

03:36:36.500 who only finds the most beautiful women on planet Earth to come to his podcast?

03:36:40.920 Is that what you actually think?

03:36:42.180 Cream of the crop.

03:36:43.700 I don't think so.

03:36:44.620 I think he, like, there's obviously it's, this podcast is for like, you know, for content

03:36:49.440 purposes.

03:36:49.780 Like, you want to get a range of everything, and I don't think there is like a, like, if

03:36:53.260 you see a hard one or two, are you going to bring her on the show?

03:36:55.960 Yeah.

03:36:56.480 Of course.

03:36:56.940 That's what I'm saying.

03:36:57.700 So you bring up everything.

03:36:59.560 There's no, like, there's no, like, there's no sarcastic.

03:37:01.700 Hang on, hang on.

03:37:02.300 This is a great point.

03:37:02.960 Andrew, are you being sarcastic?

03:37:03.980 If the hard one, what if the hard one or two rates themselves a ten, are they?

03:37:09.140 Then that's what you see yourself as a one or two.

03:37:11.720 Yeah, but is it true?

03:37:13.940 I don't know.

03:37:14.640 I haven't seen a fucking one or two.

03:37:15.940 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

03:37:16.980 I'm sorry.

03:37:17.700 You didn't give yourself a five.

03:37:18.960 I wouldn't have gave you a five.

03:37:20.300 Hang on, hang on.

03:37:20.600 You just said that there are ones and twos.

03:37:23.860 This means that you, inside of your head, can categorize what a one or a two is.

03:37:28.660 So if that is true.

03:37:30.280 Of how you see yourself.

03:37:31.380 So, Andrew, what I'm saying is if you see yourself.

03:37:33.320 No, forget about how you see yourself.

03:37:34.220 I'm asking how you see them.

03:37:36.540 Not how you see fucking you.

03:37:38.380 I don't care how you see you.

03:37:39.920 I'm asking how you see them.

03:37:40.980 I wouldn't fucking know.

03:37:42.000 There is no one or twos at this fucking table.

03:37:44.520 I didn't ask you if there was a one or two at the table.

03:37:46.400 I asked you if you're the prettiest girl at the table by how you see them.

03:37:56.320 You're looking around.

03:37:57.060 That's crazy.

03:37:57.920 I think that, like, it's, like, so interracial.

03:38:01.840 You know what I'm saying?

03:38:02.140 I all look so different.

03:38:03.080 Like, you guys all look so different.

03:38:04.480 I'm, like, fucking fine.

03:38:05.660 Like, I'm not bisexual or anything.

03:38:07.040 But I think you guys are, like, a 10.

03:38:09.360 I don't even know what a 10 would be.

03:38:10.380 It's fantastic that you were reiterating all of my points.

03:38:12.400 But I would definitely say.

03:38:13.380 They're all different races.

03:38:14.440 They're all different shapes.

03:38:15.360 They're all different sizes.

03:38:16.580 Perfect.

03:38:17.300 So, from your perspective, your worldview, you, the person who is you, are you the prettiest

03:38:24.940 girl at the table or not?

03:38:27.380 Just say any.

03:38:28.840 Not applicable.

03:38:33.160 I'm going to keep, look, we can, like, agree to disagree.

03:38:35.520 But, no, I'm, like, okay.

03:38:37.180 How are we going to agree to disagree when I ask you a fucking question?

03:38:40.380 Do you want my answer, Andrew?

03:38:41.860 Yeah.

03:38:42.320 But I wanted the answer to the question I asked.

03:38:45.000 And the question I asked was.

03:38:46.120 Do you think you're the prettiest girl at the table?

03:38:47.560 I'm going to ask the question again.

03:38:49.380 And then you can go off on your crazy-ass diatribe that has nothing to do with the question

03:38:53.160 I asked.

03:38:53.840 Office, get away from it.

03:38:55.140 Pretend like you didn't hear it.

03:38:56.620 Lie your fucking ass off.

03:38:57.660 But I'm going to ask it one more time.

03:38:59.280 Are you the prettiest girl at the table?

03:39:00.900 Now, fucking lie to me.

03:39:02.760 No.

03:39:03.100 Okay, then who is?

03:39:06.500 Oh.

03:39:07.740 That's a good question.

03:39:08.540 I'm going to look around.

03:39:09.380 I'm just like, um, I can't really pinpoint that.

03:39:13.080 I don't have an answer for that.

03:39:14.400 Because I think.

03:39:14.640 You just know that you're not it?

03:39:16.960 I know that there's a lot of beautiful women here.

03:39:20.280 And I have, I'm saying.

03:39:21.300 But you, so you can judge that you're not the prettiest one there.

03:39:23.760 But you can't judge the one that you think is the prettiest one there.

03:39:24.260 Because I look at myself.

03:39:25.000 I look at myself in the mirror every day.

03:39:27.120 But I wouldn't say, like, you wanted my answer.

03:39:28.920 That's my answer.

03:39:29.420 I said no.

03:39:30.880 Yeah, I agree with you.

03:39:32.000 No, fine, sure.

03:39:33.260 I agree with you from your perspective.

03:39:34.700 No, you're not.

03:39:35.660 You agree with me that I'm not the cutest one at the table?

03:39:37.520 If you can judge.

03:39:38.440 Hang on.

03:39:38.860 If you can judge all of the qualities that make it so that you're not the prettiest girl

03:39:43.020 at the table.

03:39:43.800 Then you should be able to judge all the qualities of what makes the woman at the table, who is

03:39:47.780 the prettiest, the prettiest.

03:39:49.460 So, who is it?

03:39:50.220 Well, you don't have to answer that if you don't want to.

03:39:51.800 I mean, I don't because I'm like, well, fuck.

03:39:53.540 If there was guys around the table, I'd be like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

03:39:55.800 But there's like girls.

03:39:56.840 Yeah, if you're a girl's girl, you're not going to say like, oh my god, she is prettiest.

03:40:00.780 She is yourself.

03:40:03.480 No, I wasn't going to say that.

03:40:04.880 The fucking baby.

03:40:06.880 So, hang on.

03:40:07.740 Who are you going to say, Brian?

03:40:08.600 Let's back up real quick.

03:40:10.060 From a male's perspective.

03:40:11.460 If you can judge, I'm not the prettiest girl at the table, then you have some metric that

03:40:18.720 you're using that makes you think that there's other girls there who are prettier than you.

03:40:23.440 All I'm asking is for you to apply that same metric and tell me which one you think is

03:40:28.600 the prettiest.

03:40:29.500 I do would say like, that's why I probably don't have a definite answer.

03:40:32.900 And I like the way that you're like, you know, making me think about it in-depthly.

03:40:37.440 And it makes me want to change my answer because if I say no, you're making me pinpoint to a

03:40:42.280 point of like figuring out who is the cutest or prettiest, whatever you say it, then I would

03:40:47.280 take it back.

03:40:47.780 And I'd be like, you know what?

03:40:48.480 I am the prettiest at the fucking table.

03:40:50.200 Now, I want to show you something.

03:40:51.820 I want to show you something.

03:40:53.680 Can you tell me who the top two prettiest are?

03:40:59.480 It's a trap.

03:41:01.060 I mean, no.

03:41:02.260 I still, my answer remains the same.

03:41:04.700 You-

03:41:05.100 The top, hang on.

03:41:06.060 Can you tell me who the top three are?

03:41:07.360 No.

03:41:08.660 Top four?

03:41:09.940 No.

03:41:11.480 You can't tell me who any girl is.

03:41:13.420 It's going to insult someone, so.

03:41:15.540 No, and I'm not here to like try to insult or not insult someone.

03:41:18.440 So, I'm going to keep it honest.

03:41:19.380 I just want to ask you this last question.

03:41:20.540 I just want to ask you this last question.

03:41:22.400 Can you tell me who the top six prettiest are?

03:41:26.160 One, two, three, four, five, six, seven.

03:41:29.220 You're going to insult someone.

03:41:30.420 No.

03:41:31.160 No, you can't.

03:41:32.420 Hang on, hang on.

03:41:33.300 But if that's true, then how can you say that you're not the prettiest then?

03:41:37.380 Well, that's what I just literally said, that you make me think about my answer when

03:41:41.720 you can't like, okay, it's contradicting.

03:41:43.360 You can't pick somebody that's prettier than you.

03:41:45.440 It makes no fucking sense at all.

03:41:46.740 That's what I am saying.

03:41:47.340 I just give you six options.

03:41:49.060 You're the seventh.

03:41:50.280 Exactly.

03:41:50.360 And you can't tell me any of the girls who are prettier than you, but you're not the

03:41:53.840 prettiest girl who's there.

03:41:54.980 But this is what I say.

03:41:56.060 Do you realize how fucking insane that sounds to me?

03:41:58.760 It sounds like.

03:41:59.180 But this is what I just said.

03:42:00.120 The ultimate cope.

03:42:00.900 The ultimate fucking nonsensical cope, right?

03:42:03.960 Makes no fucking sense.

03:42:05.300 Can you please make this make sense to me?

03:42:07.680 But like at the end of the day, I told you, okay, you're right and you can do that.

03:42:11.260 Hold on, Brian.

03:42:11.980 Hold that tit.

03:42:12.560 And what I'm saying is, I'm only saying, okay, you made me think about my answer and

03:42:17.920 I'm going to rephrase myself.

03:42:20.440 Yes, I do think I'm the prettiest one at this table because that's how I see myself.

03:42:24.280 So you can disregard everything else you say because I'm changing my answer because you

03:42:28.160 made me think about it.

03:42:28.920 So thank you, Andrew.

03:42:30.200 Like, okay, I don't have somebody to pick, but if I can pinpoint now, I see myself as a

03:42:34.960 nine.

03:42:35.360 You can ask me who's the prettiest one at the table.

03:42:37.080 I'm the prettiest one at the table.

03:42:38.100 Wait, wait, wait.

03:42:38.160 Rape me.

03:42:38.660 Rape me.

03:42:39.980 Rape you?

03:42:40.820 No, rape you.

03:42:41.400 Oh, chill.

03:42:42.280 Hey, yo, pause.

03:42:43.500 Rape.

03:42:43.820 I'm sorry.

03:42:44.820 Rape.

03:42:45.620 Rape.

03:42:46.020 Rape.

03:42:46.300 Rape me.

03:42:51.080 I'm just taking my drink.

03:42:52.320 A seven.

03:42:53.680 So if we were dating, you would be settling.

03:42:57.460 Whoa.

03:42:57.820 Looks-wise.

03:42:58.740 I, well, hold on.

03:43:00.020 Where did that come from?

03:43:01.220 You said you're a nine.

03:43:01.540 Oh, hang on.

03:43:02.260 You're a nine.

03:43:03.580 So you're settling.

03:43:04.940 What do you mean?

03:43:05.580 What do you mean?

03:43:05.980 I'm settling.

03:43:06.540 I never once said that's how I see myself.

03:43:08.980 That's not how I see somebody else.

03:43:10.620 Yeah, that's totally fine.

03:43:11.580 That is totally fine that you see yourself as a nine, but you see me as a seven.

03:43:15.760 So if we were dating, you would be settling for me.

03:43:19.880 No, there wouldn't be settling because there'd be prior conversations and why, like-

03:43:23.680 What do you mean?

03:43:24.300 Like, we're sitting down.

03:43:25.240 Okay, I think you're a seven.

03:43:26.220 But you said if we were dating, I wouldn't fucking know because we've never dated or we

03:43:29.860 never, like, you know what I mean?

03:43:31.140 I can't put myself in that position.

03:43:32.420 Well, let's try this a different way.

03:43:34.660 Let's just see if you and I can actually level with each other.

03:43:37.480 We can just level with each other.

03:43:39.300 So let's say you and I were in that podcast.

03:43:41.220 The podcast is done.

03:43:42.800 Everybody has left.

03:43:43.820 We're just sitting there.

03:43:44.500 We're having some chit-chat.

03:43:45.460 And I was like, what the fuck are you talking about when it came to this rating shit?

03:43:50.260 Makes no sense.

03:43:51.400 Clearly, you judged everyone at the fucking table when you sat down and they judged you

03:43:54.780 too.

03:43:55.100 And you know it's true.

03:43:56.120 We all fucking know it's true.

03:43:57.960 Why wouldn't you just give an honest answer?

03:43:59.600 Isn't the truth that the reason that you're having so much trouble giving an honest answer

03:44:03.680 to this is just because you don't want to hurt anybody's feelings?

03:44:06.920 Yes.

03:44:07.060 Isn't that really what's true?

03:44:08.720 No.

03:44:09.260 I'm not even thinking that deep about it.

03:44:10.920 I mean, but I mean, do you have an opinion about it?

03:44:12.860 Because fuck, you want to contradict me?

03:44:14.400 But no.

03:44:15.600 I don't want to.

03:44:16.480 I'm not hurting anybody's feelings.

03:44:18.020 All I'm saying is fucking no.

03:44:19.720 I don't think that.

03:44:20.500 And that's just how I am.

03:44:22.520 You can think that I'm lying, but I'm not.

03:44:26.140 I do.

03:44:27.140 I think that you purposely don't want to hurt anybody's feelings.

03:44:30.400 And so you feel like if you single somebody out and say they're the prettiest, it's going

03:44:34.340 to hurt everybody else's feelings there.

03:44:36.200 And so you refuse to do it.

03:44:37.540 I literally think that that is what's going on right this second.

03:44:40.880 Can you tell me with a straight face, look at me directly in the eyes and say, Andrew,

03:44:44.580 that is definitely not what's going on.

03:44:46.840 The truth is that I'm just obfuscating and lying my ass off and contradicting myself because

03:44:52.100 of this, Andrew.

03:44:52.960 The reason I'm doing it, Andrew, is because this is what I really think.

03:44:55.840 Go ahead.

03:44:56.660 This is what I really think.

03:44:57.560 There's no fucking ugly girls at this table.

03:44:59.020 And I even like foresaw because don't get me wrong.

03:45:01.360 I've seen a couple of videos of you guys trying to like.

03:45:03.640 I didn't ask if there was any ugly women at the table.

03:45:05.020 That's not what I asked you.

03:45:06.200 What did I ask you?

03:45:07.520 If I'm the prettiest at the table.

03:45:09.080 I asked you, who's the prettiest?

03:45:10.580 Is it you?

03:45:11.220 You said no.

03:45:11.760 So who the fuck is it?

03:45:14.000 Rephrase.

03:45:14.500 I definitely rephrase myself to being a yes.

03:45:16.620 So you ran it back twice.

03:45:17.460 This is the third time for a clarification.

03:45:19.680 I said yes.

03:45:20.160 What makes you the prettiest?

03:45:21.300 What makes you the prettiest?

03:45:22.700 I fucking just said the nine.

03:45:24.220 That's how I see myself.

03:45:25.440 Like that's how I see myself.

03:45:26.180 What does that mean?

03:45:26.800 That doesn't fucking mean anything.

03:45:28.140 I see myself as the king of France.

03:45:30.380 Am I the fucking king of France?

03:45:31.920 No, but if that's how you see yourself, then they'll lose the way.

03:45:34.600 I see myself as the god emperor of all that I survey.

03:45:39.500 I am the god emperor of the whatever podcast.

03:45:42.280 I am the god emperor of Santa Barbara.

03:45:44.580 Is that true?

03:45:46.400 That's how you see yourself.

03:45:47.980 Oh, so then it's true.

03:45:49.300 As long as I see myself as the god emperor of Santa Barbara, therefore I am.

03:45:53.020 It's your opinion.

03:45:53.620 No, no.

03:45:55.260 Well, don't shut down.

03:45:57.080 Don't be a brat and shut down.

03:45:58.160 Whoa, shut down.

03:45:59.080 Brat?

03:45:59.480 Oh, wow.

03:46:01.240 Brad is shutting down.

03:46:02.000 Is it true?

03:46:02.880 Is it true that I am the god emperor of Santa Barbara if I see myself as that?

03:46:07.360 Is that true?

03:46:08.400 I think she's the fucking prettiest.

03:46:10.360 Like what they said.

03:46:11.280 Shit.

03:46:12.860 Make room.

03:46:13.500 Say hi.

03:46:13.920 Like anything to avoid answering any question.

03:46:19.340 Can you just answer my question?

03:46:20.580 Is it true that if I say I'm the god emperor of Santa Barbara that I am?

03:46:27.480 Yes.

03:46:28.120 No.

03:46:28.740 Oh, okay.

03:46:29.300 All right.

03:46:29.880 Because that's something that you say.

03:46:31.560 Is it factual?

03:46:32.460 So then it's true.

03:46:33.140 100% it's true as I say it.

03:46:34.460 Whatever you say, you're entitled to your opinion, but that doesn't mean it's true.

03:46:37.940 Like that's what you think.

03:46:38.820 It doesn't mean it's true.

03:46:40.000 You're entitled to your opinion, but it doesn't make it true.

03:46:41.920 If I'm a nine and you don't think that it's true, then that's fine, but I think that I'm

03:46:45.100 a nine.

03:46:45.480 The question referred to is how you see yourself.

03:46:47.900 What would you rate yourself?

03:46:49.400 Break it down.

03:46:50.120 Dissect it.

03:46:50.720 That's what it fucking means.

03:46:51.840 That's what we're doing right now.

03:46:52.920 We're breaking it down and dissecting it.

03:46:54.620 And so we're asking you, if you're a nine and nobody else is writing themselves as a

03:46:58.040 nine, are you fucking delusional?

03:46:59.840 That's what the rating system is for.

03:47:00.980 Am I fucking delusional?

03:47:02.100 Let's ask the fucking table.

03:47:03.360 Am I fucking delusional for thinking that I'm a fucking nine?

03:47:05.460 The table, like you, is going to fucking lie and say that you're not, even though we've

03:47:11.700 just established that almost everybody here will lie to not hurt somebody else's feelings.

03:47:16.500 So let me ask the table then, just to humor you, is she a nine?

03:47:20.340 Raise your hand if she's a nine.

03:47:21.720 Go ahead.

03:47:22.900 Lie to me.

03:47:23.400 Lie to me.

03:47:25.860 Yeah.

03:47:30.980 So you want a hand raise or you want to go one by one?

03:47:34.460 Yeah, one by one.

03:47:37.620 I don't think you're a nine.

03:47:39.340 I don't think that's bad.

03:47:41.160 It's not a bad thing.

03:47:42.740 Right.

03:47:43.320 I mean, we didn't ask how bad or good it is.

03:47:45.180 He's just asking, like, do you think I'm a nine or not?

03:47:46.880 No.

03:47:47.400 Okay.

03:47:48.400 Um, I don't, I don't know.

03:47:51.900 What are my fucking feelings?

03:47:53.720 She's like, wing, wing, wing, wing, wing, wing, wing, wing, wing, wing, wing.

03:47:55.120 I'm not sure.

03:47:56.320 Suddenly, the way that I rate all other human beings that I engage with has suddenly fled from

03:48:01.520 me.

03:48:01.760 I no longer have any idea of what beauty means or my standards for beauty.

03:48:06.780 Suddenly, all of my stature for everything I think has flown out the window.

03:48:11.640 Okay.

03:48:12.300 Next.

03:48:13.780 Um, I don't think it's wrong to not want to hurt people's feelings, first of all, but if

03:48:18.500 we're doing a physical analysis based on my standards of beauty, I would not rate you

03:48:22.440 a nine.

03:48:22.820 I think you have a very pretty face.

03:48:26.780 Face is crazy.

03:48:28.520 Face card valid?

03:48:29.320 That doesn't actually answer the question.

03:48:31.840 No, I said, I don't think she, is she, is she a nine?

03:48:33.760 On her standards of physicalities.

03:48:36.040 On my ideal beauty standards, I would not rate her a nine.

03:48:39.920 That's just my.

03:48:40.420 Great.

03:48:40.660 What would you rate her?

03:48:42.780 We're going on.

03:48:44.340 Okay.

03:48:45.040 What would you rate her?

03:48:45.480 Hang on, let her answer.

03:48:46.300 What would you rate her?

03:48:46.320 I think it's kind of brutal.

03:48:46.800 What would you rate her?

03:48:46.920 I'm not interested in dating women, so.

03:48:48.960 Fuck!

03:48:49.300 That's what I'm saying.

03:48:49.620 You're going to keep your pain on a man and a woman.

03:48:51.260 That's kind of fucking weird.

03:48:51.840 Wait, wait, wait.

03:48:52.420 Hang on.

03:48:52.840 I'm so confused.

03:48:53.880 She's not a nine, but she don't know how to rate women?

03:48:56.280 That's super weird.

03:48:56.780 No, I didn't say I don't know how to rate women.

03:48:58.840 I just said I'm not interested in dating them.

03:49:00.420 Great, the rater.

03:49:00.440 What is she?

03:49:00.920 What is the point?

03:49:01.480 What is her rating?

03:49:03.740 I think it's mean to do this.

03:49:05.960 Oh, it's mean.

03:49:06.820 Be mean.

03:49:07.080 It's okay.

03:49:07.700 I can swallow her.

03:49:08.340 Okay.

03:49:08.800 All right.

03:49:09.280 So then wait.

03:49:09.780 So then Andrew Wilson was right, and you won't give a real answer because you don't want

03:49:13.620 her anybody's feelings.

03:49:14.340 But that's her or me.

03:49:15.900 I'm willing to accept that.

03:49:17.340 But what's wrong with not wanting to hurt anybody's feelings?

03:49:19.540 I didn't say there's anything wrong with it as much to be fucking honest about it.

03:49:22.600 I'm admitting that I don't want to hurt her feelings.

03:49:24.400 I just want the honesty that I will literally fucking lie in order to not hurt feelings.

03:49:30.680 That's all I'm asking for.

03:49:31.680 I'm not lying.

03:49:32.240 I'm not going to pump her up and say that she's something that I don't think she is, but

03:49:36.140 I also don't think it's necessary to walk her down.

03:49:38.620 Dude, tell her what you do think she is.

03:49:40.460 Yeah, you don't think it's necessary to answer the question in an honest way because you think

03:49:44.380 it will hurt your feelings.

03:49:45.240 I answered it.

03:49:45.660 All you have to do is say, I'm willing to lie to not hurt feelings, and that's fine.

03:49:49.740 I'm willing to accept that.

03:49:50.660 I'm not making up an answer.

03:49:51.860 I'm saying I'm not going to answer because I don't want to knock anybody down on this.

03:49:57.320 So you're proving his point on your perspective.

03:49:59.140 Yeah, totally proving my point.

03:50:00.620 She's proving your fucking point.

03:50:01.660 Go ahead.

03:50:02.160 She's proving your fucking point.

03:50:04.740 No.

03:50:05.920 No.

03:50:07.360 Yes.

03:50:08.160 Yes.

03:50:10.260 I'm also going to prove your point, Andrew.

03:50:11.960 I don't feel comfortable talking about other girls' appearances, so I'm not going to comment

03:50:16.200 on that.

03:50:16.520 No.

03:50:17.360 Just like that.

03:50:18.360 Now you guys all see.

03:50:19.500 Now you understand.

03:50:20.940 You understand that all of you will fucking lie in order to spare the feelings of the girl

03:50:26.260 next to you, even though everybody who's watching this, including everybody sitting at the table,

03:50:31.340 knows that this is not true.

03:50:33.860 You're just unwilling to say what is true.

03:50:36.100 Your face won't hurt John Bide's feelings.

03:50:38.740 I don't think there's anything wrong with not wanting to hurt feelings to an extent, though.

03:50:42.080 I know, but I just don't feel that it's necessary, but I obviously get what you're saying.

03:50:47.180 That's great how you feel.

03:50:48.460 I love how you feel.

03:50:48.920 Yeah, I know.

03:50:49.260 How you feel matters more to me than anything else I'm playing.

03:50:52.640 I'm glad you feel that way.

03:50:54.260 I know.

03:50:54.700 Me too.

03:50:55.160 Thanks.

03:50:55.900 We're going to read a couple chats.

03:50:59.420 Maddie, can you read these?

03:51:00.600 Just remember, guys, the higher you go, the more delusional you are.

03:51:04.720 This is a delusional scale here.

03:51:06.480 Brian and Andrew are too modest with themselves.

03:51:09.040 I rate both Brian and Andrew a solid six.

03:51:13.120 Appreciate it.

03:51:14.080 Thank you.

03:51:14.400 I just say seven, so you want that.

03:51:15.440 Appreciate it.

03:51:16.200 Thank you.

03:51:16.540 You're welcome, Brian.

03:51:16.740 We have, who cares?

03:51:18.700 Thank you, man.

03:51:19.440 We have old man Maureen here.

03:51:21.220 Thank you, man.

03:51:22.020 Right to left.

03:51:23.480 Six, five, six, five, four, seven, five, seven.

03:51:28.460 Morgan is a nine.

03:51:29.460 My personal eyebrow rating, Maddie, good for you.

03:51:32.400 On claiming a six, stay humble.

03:51:33.940 It's way more attractive than saying nine or ten.

03:51:36.860 Hey, old man Maureen, thank you for the message, man.

03:51:38.520 Really appreciate it.

03:51:39.340 Thank you.

03:51:41.760 Giovanni.

03:51:42.460 Thank you, man.

03:51:43.060 If you're a nine, why is your dress above your belly button?

03:51:45.860 Every other chick on the podcast has their pants slash skirt below their belly button.

03:51:51.180 Explain why it's so high and call yourself a nine.

03:51:54.280 Delusional.

03:51:54.820 It's above the belly button.

03:51:55.820 I don't get it.

03:52:03.280 Now, I just wanted to just very quickly point out before Brian moves to topic.

03:52:08.160 I'm not really trying to beat you guys up.

03:52:10.300 I'm just trying to show you something which is important from the male perspective that people miss out on all the time.

03:52:15.640 Oh, right.

03:52:16.140 Men don't have the luxury of lying to each other all the fucking time.

03:52:21.540 We don't have the luxury of this, ever.

03:52:24.020 And we're constantly brutal with each other because we have to because men compete within a hierarchy.

03:52:30.600 Women don't have to compete within a hierarchy.

03:52:32.660 They only compete with each other individually.

03:52:34.080 And so what happens is when I hear this kind of over and over, every single panel, right, just the complete and total lack of mind.

03:52:45.300 And then when I drill down, we find out, listen, the reason nobody really wants to tell the truth is because they're afraid it's going to hurt somebody else's feelings.

03:52:52.660 I can even understand that.

03:52:54.060 I can rationalize it.

03:52:55.500 I just wish that more of you would be honest about it.

03:52:58.840 That's all.

03:53:00.680 I'm really honest with my girlfriends who ask.

03:53:02.720 One of my friends recently gained some weight, and she said all of her other friends were telling her that she looks fine, and she asked me my opinion, and I said, yeah, it looks like you've gained weight.

03:53:11.980 And she was like, thank you so much.

03:53:14.040 Now I'm going to work out and do something about it.

03:53:15.940 Listen to the caveat.

03:53:17.260 Listen to the caveat here.

03:53:19.160 The caveat is if somebody comes to me for criticism, constructive criticism, I'll give it to them because that is being nice.

03:53:25.780 Yeah, yeah.

03:53:26.020 That is being nice.

03:53:27.660 That's not how men operate.

03:53:29.000 How men operate is like this.

03:53:30.520 You fuck that whole thing up.

03:53:31.840 You fuck that machine up.

03:53:33.160 You don't know how to use a wrench.

03:53:34.560 You're a fucking idiot.

03:53:35.840 Get off the line, you fucking dumb fuck.

03:53:38.160 What the hell were you thinking?

03:53:39.800 That's how they correct each other.

03:53:41.480 They correct each other by saying you suck, you're shit, you're garbage, get better.

03:53:45.980 And then when you're better, they give you compliments, but they're so rare that when you get one, you know you earned it.

03:53:51.380 And so the thing is, is like, I just want to point out this kind of stark contrast and why that relates to dating is because this contrast exists where men seem to be able to be far more honest with each other.

03:54:03.660 Women far less honest with each other.

03:54:06.040 That's all.

03:54:06.860 Have you guys done this with men?

03:54:09.100 I have.

03:54:09.880 We ranked ourselves, but...

03:54:11.940 Just you two?

03:54:12.760 I'm just going to do an analysis here of the ratings.

03:54:20.280 Is that the DBZ?

03:54:24.000 Is that the...

03:54:24.420 It's a scouter.

03:54:25.220 It's a scouter.

03:54:26.340 I was going to ask that.

03:54:27.220 Uh, yeah, y'all were, your power, like, where you think your power levels are, like, you think, you think you're like Vegeta, but y'all are like Krillin.

03:54:40.540 That's crazy.

03:54:41.280 You know what I mean?

03:54:41.960 No.

03:54:42.260 You know what I mean?

03:54:43.300 Like, you think, you think you're Frieza, but you're like Yamcha.

03:54:48.600 You think you have a big dick, but it's actually small?

03:54:52.520 Chill out?

03:54:53.080 I am hung like a stud hamster, thank you very much.

03:54:58.480 Stud hamster, there you go.

03:54:59.960 Stud hamster.

03:55:01.080 Oh, I have one more thing on this.

03:55:02.660 So, um, do you think you will be better looking in 10 years' time?

03:55:07.440 No.

03:55:08.680 Okay.

03:55:09.880 Probably not.

03:55:11.380 All right.

03:55:12.520 Um, I've gotten better looking with time.

03:55:16.360 Like, I look better now than I did at 18, you know?

03:55:20.840 So, um, but in 10 years from now, I'll be 48.

03:55:23.860 I do have a girlfriend in her 40s, so it looks amazing.

03:55:26.440 So, hopefully, I will.

03:55:27.940 Yes.

03:55:28.800 Okay.

03:55:29.300 So, better looking at 48 than now?

03:55:32.260 No, no.

03:55:33.080 I'm going to say this is probably my prime.

03:55:34.640 I'm probably peaking right now.

03:55:36.240 Were you, uh, are you better looking now than you were at 28 as compared to, uh...

03:55:41.080 I think so, yes.

03:55:42.060 And then, are you better looking now at 38 than you were at 18?

03:55:46.040 I would think so, yes.

03:55:47.340 And then, were you better looking at 28 than you were at 18?

03:55:51.700 Uh, yeah, I think so, yeah.

03:55:53.520 Okay.

03:55:54.520 Do you have any...

03:55:55.040 It'd be interesting to see, like, old photos or something.

03:55:57.720 I don't know.

03:55:58.740 Uh, yeah.

03:55:59.600 I have old photos.

03:56:00.340 My phone's up there.

03:56:01.180 Yeah.

03:56:02.000 Uh, or maybe we could...

03:56:03.520 Well, maybe we do an Instagram deep dive.

03:56:06.180 Be like, what happened?

03:56:07.420 I didn't get Instagram until, like, 2016.

03:56:09.840 Oh, okay.

03:56:10.500 Well, uh, better looking in 10 years' time?

03:56:13.020 Probably 35.

03:56:14.440 I don't know if I have kids or then, or not, but...

03:56:15.940 Wait, I thought you were 26.

03:56:17.340 Oh, yeah, 26.

03:56:18.120 Sorry.

03:56:18.320 36.

03:56:18.860 I mean...

03:56:19.660 25, 26.

03:56:20.820 Yeah, whatever.

03:56:21.700 36, whatever.

03:56:22.920 So, better looking at 36 than now at 26?

03:56:25.380 I mean, I was, like, better looking than I was, like, 18 for sure, so...

03:56:29.260 Better looking now than at 18?

03:56:31.060 Yeah.

03:56:31.340 Okay.

03:56:32.160 But better looking in 10 years' time?

03:56:35.960 I would say, yeah.

03:56:36.940 I'd be, like, in my woman era.

03:56:38.200 You know, like, women, like, grown.

03:56:39.540 I don't know if I have kids or not, but, yeah.

03:56:40.880 I would, yeah.

03:56:41.620 Okay.

03:56:41.940 Better looking in 20 years' time.

03:56:45.380 So, 46 versus now?

03:56:46.740 46.

03:56:47.360 46 versus 26?

03:56:49.640 No.

03:56:50.200 Okay.

03:56:51.300 Better looking in 10 years' time?

03:56:52.920 I feel like I've looked the same since you're Asian, too.

03:56:55.880 Yeah, it's the Asian genetics.

03:56:57.340 We don't really change.

03:56:59.280 I mean...

03:57:00.000 I mean, we do, like...

03:57:01.040 You do.

03:57:01.960 Like, you can see the maturity in my face.

03:57:03.840 Probably not till we're, like, 50.

03:57:05.620 50, yeah.

03:57:06.740 Yeah.

03:57:07.460 So, maybe when 50s would be, like, a truck, then maybe I'll be going down, but...

03:57:11.740 Look, I'll grant that Asian women age well, but I can tell a 40-year-old Asian woman versus

03:57:22.880 a 20-year-old Asian woman.

03:57:24.460 That's true.

03:57:25.020 That's true.

03:57:25.520 That's what I said.

03:57:25.920 I'm going to give the cultural dispute that Asian women do not age nearly as well as

03:57:32.640 the stereotype says.

03:57:33.840 I'm just going to point this out, that oftentimes, in fact, when Asian women get too old, they

03:57:40.800 look like little gross pygmy people running around.

03:57:43.420 I'm just pointing this out, and this is...

03:57:46.720 By the way, by the way, I think that many, many people would actually agree with me on

03:57:52.160 this, that this idea, this really hyperinflated, over-evaluated idea that Asian women just get

03:58:00.160 better with age is just that.

03:58:02.140 It's highly over-inflated.

03:58:03.640 So, who ages more?

03:58:04.540 I don't think they get better with age.

03:58:05.880 Yeah.

03:58:06.120 Since we're talking about, like...

03:58:06.880 Okay, then no.

03:58:07.780 Culture.

03:58:08.220 I don't think any women, really, in any racial group, really age very well.

03:58:15.040 Even in comparison to each other, I don't think that they do.

03:58:17.760 I think that youth is generally valued in all demographics.

03:58:21.740 So, 25, will you be better looking in 10 years' time?

03:58:24.940 I think so, yeah.

03:58:26.040 At 35?

03:58:26.640 What about 45?

03:58:27.780 No.

03:58:28.280 Okay.

03:58:28.860 And then, Lauren, 34, do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time?

03:58:32.900 44?

03:58:34.260 I don't know if I'll be better looking, but I feel like I'll look about the same.

03:58:37.320 I take good care of myself, sunblock, and fitness, and good food, and happy.

03:58:43.120 No sex.

03:58:43.620 Happy.

03:58:43.980 Yeah, exactly.

03:58:45.040 Yes, the virgin skincare.

03:58:49.300 Delusional.

03:58:49.880 I don't know.

03:58:51.120 Do you do...

03:58:52.600 Like, do you intentionally make yourself look like a vampire, or is that just...

03:58:56.380 Me?

03:58:56.860 Yo.

03:58:57.460 Yes.

03:58:57.980 Like the Volturi?

03:58:59.220 Are we saying Volturi?

03:59:00.920 Well, you put, like, the red...

03:59:02.160 It's not red, but I know it looks red.

03:59:04.140 I'm gonna suck your blood.

03:59:05.220 Did I just insult how you actually look?

03:59:07.040 No, no, no.

03:59:07.320 But especially under this lighting, I feel like I literally look like a vampire, so...

03:59:11.040 You don't wear any, like, red eye shadow?

03:59:14.740 It looks red.

03:59:16.200 It's more like a purple.

03:59:17.520 Oh, okay.

03:59:18.140 But I can see the red, yeah.

03:59:19.600 It's got a hint.

03:59:20.180 I think we're wearing the red as well.

03:59:21.560 It kind of, like, comes out.

03:59:22.940 I wasn't really looking at you as deep enough.

03:59:24.520 Yeah.

03:59:25.240 Exactly.

03:59:27.000 So, wait.

03:59:27.640 Better looking in 20 years' time?

03:59:29.800 20 years' time?

03:59:30.420 Or, well, you said you'd be the same in 10 years, so...

03:59:33.120 The same in 20 years?

03:59:34.760 The same in 20.

03:59:35.480 I mean, I'll be 54.

03:59:36.820 54.

03:59:38.600 I don't know.

03:59:39.460 I mean, who's to say?

03:59:40.880 I'm not gonna say, because I like to set an intention for myself, so...

03:59:45.920 You can call me delusional.

03:59:46.860 That's okay.

03:59:47.480 I don't know if I'll look...

03:59:48.160 I definitely will look better, but...

03:59:49.200 We're just gonna keep putting it out there that we're gonna look good as time goes on.

03:59:53.260 Are you better looking now at 34 than you were at 24?

03:59:57.540 I actually think I am, yes.

03:59:59.540 I would say that.

04:00:01.100 I do believe that, yes.

04:00:05.720 Yeah.

04:00:06.180 All right.

04:00:06.520 Anna?

04:00:07.180 Anna?

04:00:07.380 There's the answers to that one.

04:00:09.600 Do you think women look better, like, when they're younger?

04:00:15.300 Is that, like, you're...

04:00:16.640 I think...

04:00:17.020 What you're implying?

04:00:18.500 Is that what you guys are implying?

04:00:19.540 Yes, of course.

04:00:20.940 Yeah.

04:00:21.600 So...

04:00:22.000 Yeah.

04:00:22.900 When you're young...

04:00:25.380 So, it doesn't change the fact, like, when...

04:00:28.500 Well, 10 years ago, for me, it was...

04:00:30.780 I mean, that's bad, but, like, from since I was, like, 18, we'll keep it at 18, right?

04:00:36.020 So, from, like, 18, like, I would say to even, like, 22, I was just, like, fat, so...

04:00:41.060 And I just...

04:00:42.800 I had no looks.

04:00:43.520 So, like, me saying, like, I feel like I'm gonna get better.

04:00:45.760 Exceptions don't prove the rule.

04:00:47.020 Exceptions don't prove the rule.

04:00:48.340 So...

04:00:48.620 We can say, yes, there are some women who are much less good-looking when they were younger

04:00:53.480 than when they got older, but that's not going to be a rule, which is true across the board,

04:00:57.840 not even close.

04:00:58.760 For the most part, the opposite is true.

04:01:00.480 You would agree, right?

04:01:02.560 Yeah.

04:01:03.060 So, it's all else being equal.

04:01:05.580 So, if you were healthy your entire life...

04:01:07.900 Oh, okay.

04:01:08.440 On those standards.

04:01:09.740 Okay.

04:01:09.880 And you remained in your best shape your entire life, then...

04:01:12.720 Yes.

04:01:13.000 When you're younger, you look better.

04:01:14.380 Correct.

04:01:14.960 Yeah.

04:01:16.040 So, yeah.

04:01:18.100 Do you think you'll look better when you're 10 years old?

04:01:20.080 No.

04:01:20.700 No.

04:01:21.140 No.

04:01:21.760 How old are you?

04:01:22.680 35.

04:01:23.480 Oh, no.

04:01:24.660 And I think I was better looking 10 years ago.

04:01:26.620 So, I think there's some differences between men and women on this one, but generally speaking,

04:01:32.840 I'd say for most people, whether you're a man or a woman, as you get older, you become

04:01:37.520 less attractive.

04:01:38.600 I disagree, though.

04:01:39.540 I feel like men...

04:01:40.440 Well, some men age like fine wine.

04:01:42.300 I think they look better in their 30s and their 20s.

04:01:45.560 Some look good with facial hair.

04:01:46.760 Some look good without.

04:01:48.020 Well, I mean, there's another differential here.

04:01:50.200 Moving off of, like, what I think is more, like, talking about objective beauty, there's

04:01:55.760 appraisals of physical attractiveness.

04:01:58.160 There's differential there between men and women.

04:02:00.380 So, men, as they start getting older, even, you know, 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, they will

04:02:07.700 continuously, if you pull them, they will continuously say what they think is the most physically

04:02:13.280 attractive tends to be pretty constant between, like, it's around, like, 20 to 22 is what they

04:02:20.020 deem, like, most physically attractive, even as they get older.

04:02:22.760 However, as women get older, their appraisals tend to match up with their own age.

04:02:28.420 So, they'll say, well, the men that I find, or, well, maybe one or two years older.

04:02:32.520 So, if you're 33, you'll say men who are about 35.

04:02:36.160 That's what you find the most attractive physically.

04:02:39.160 But, so, there is a differential there.

04:02:41.680 I think there is a biological evolutionary reason for this.

04:02:44.580 It comes down to, why is that funny?

04:02:49.240 Is this too, huh?

04:02:50.940 Is this too what?

04:02:51.560 Is it too, what's the word for it?

04:02:55.000 Anyways, whatever.

04:02:57.160 But, was there another question there?

04:03:02.620 No, no, no.

04:03:04.840 Actually, there was one man who I think aged like fine wine, to be honest.

04:03:10.700 I saw this video.

04:03:11.740 I don't know if any of you know this guy, Paul Wall.

04:03:14.320 I haven't heard of this guy in nearly 20 years.

04:03:16.800 Paul Wall, the rapper?

04:03:17.380 Paul Wall, the white rapper.

04:03:19.000 He recently was on tour with, like, he did a concert with Megan Thee Stallion, or I don't

04:03:25.720 know who it is.

04:03:27.660 And, uh...

04:03:28.660 Oh, Sexy Red, I think.

04:03:30.100 Or was it, like...

04:03:30.720 I don't know.

04:03:30.900 I think it was, like, Glorilla.

04:03:31.840 He had a bit of a glow up.

04:03:33.940 He's, you know, he's looking good for 40 or whatever the fuck he is.

04:03:38.480 He's looking good.

04:03:39.100 Can you look him up?

04:03:39.600 Yeah, we can look it up.

04:03:40.500 Actually, it might be copyright or some shit.

04:03:44.540 But good for Paul Wall.

04:03:46.340 Congratulations.

04:03:48.200 I guess.

04:03:50.060 Do you guys even know who that is?

04:03:51.800 I fucking don't know.

04:03:52.180 What's his song?

04:03:52.920 Hold on.

04:03:53.280 Let me...

04:03:53.580 I'll rap it for you guys.

04:03:55.240 Paul Wall.

04:03:56.060 What's his song?

04:03:57.600 Sitting Sideways.

04:03:59.440 He's in a Brooke Hogan song from way back.

04:04:01.220 Sitting.

04:04:01.820 Still tipping?

04:04:02.880 Still tipping on...

04:04:03.960 Wait, that's Mike Jones.

04:04:05.240 Hold on.

04:04:05.520 No, I know.

04:04:06.220 Like, rap in faux-fos.

04:04:08.120 Is that the...

04:04:09.840 But that's a Mike Jones song.

04:04:13.280 Back then.

04:04:13.980 Back then, hoes didn't want me.

04:04:15.460 Now I'm hot, hoes all along.

04:04:16.700 Okay.

04:04:18.460 Still tipping on faux-fos.

04:04:20.080 I'm going to read the lyrics to this song.

04:04:22.280 I've heard it, but I've never seen the picture.

04:04:23.120 As white as possible.

04:04:25.200 Still tipping on faux-fos.

04:04:27.920 Wrapped in faux-vogues.

04:04:30.060 Tipping on faux-fos.

04:04:31.300 Wait, it just repeats.

04:04:32.380 What the fuck?

04:04:33.720 Hold on.

04:04:34.740 That's hilarious.

04:04:35.420 I'm still tipping on faux-fos.

04:04:37.340 Now look who creeping.

04:04:38.860 Look who crawling.

04:04:39.980 Still balling in the mix.

04:04:42.060 It's that six-six long dick.

04:04:44.540 Wait, I can't read that word.

04:04:45.680 I can't read that word.

04:04:47.820 Why do most women deny biology and the effects of time?

04:04:52.020 If you don't believe you age, you must have been bitten by Last Act's mistress in red.

04:04:57.540 Pull up a pic from 18 in the mirror.

04:04:59.540 I do want a kilo of cereal.

04:05:02.220 Thank you.

04:05:02.880 By the way, Killa.

04:05:03.300 Well, I have a quick answer for this question to you, killer of cereal.

04:05:06.940 It's called good old fashion American cope.

04:05:10.500 That's what it is.

04:05:11.340 They don't deny it.

04:05:13.460 They do everything they can to avoid it.

04:05:15.580 They put on hordes of makeup, plastic surgery, everything they can to retain youth while at the same time pretending that youth is in no way important.

04:05:22.940 It's the funniest thing that I've ever seen in my life, but it's just pure cope.

04:05:28.260 Pure cope.

04:05:28.980 Pure cope.

04:05:29.640 There's no woman here who would want to be magically aged 10 years older.

04:05:35.500 If it had no negative life effects, meaning it didn't hurt you in any way, it didn't hurt you with heart disease, there was no disease of any kind, would anybody here, show of hands, actually want to be aged forward by 10 years?

04:05:48.500 So that you look 10 years older than you are right now, even though there was no negative health effects, nothing negative towards the longevity of your life.

04:05:56.140 Would any of you actually want to do that?

04:05:58.600 No way.

04:05:59.160 I would like to stay exactly at this age for the rest of my life and look just like this.

04:06:03.440 I think she looks amazing.

04:06:06.360 So like 10 years ago, basically you were around like my age.

04:06:09.460 So like if in 10 years I can look like that, I'd take that offer.

04:06:13.620 Oh, thank you.

04:06:14.460 When we were younger, you'd be like, I really wish I was 18 or 20.

04:06:17.520 I don't think it was like a physical thing.

04:06:18.980 And then when you're older, you like take actually like physicalities.

04:06:22.160 So like, yeah, I don't know.

04:06:24.600 I don't think so.

04:06:25.280 I want to be a hard 40.

04:06:28.040 Like, no.

04:06:30.380 Word?

04:06:31.000 Yeah, no.

04:06:31.700 Right.

04:06:32.300 No woman who ever wants to really look older.

04:06:35.660 It is kind of this insane cope where they pretend.

04:06:39.040 Oh, no.

04:06:40.100 Age's just a number.

04:06:41.360 Oh, beauty's in the eye of the beholder.

04:06:43.280 But then you ask, would you like to be aged 10 years?

04:06:45.320 Well, fuck no.

04:06:46.060 I don't want to be aged 10 years older.

04:06:47.660 It's like, come on.

04:06:48.860 I'm terrified of looking older.

04:06:50.620 Like, it really terrifies me.

04:06:53.120 Gray hair?

04:06:53.620 I don't, I don't dye my hair.

04:06:55.640 I'm going to get into, or actually, Nick, do we have things to pull up?

04:06:58.880 Paul Wall?

04:06:59.260 You're going to pull up Paul Wall?

04:06:59.740 You don't dye your hair?

04:07:00.720 You got Paul Wall?

04:07:01.400 No, I don't dye my hair.

04:07:02.360 You got Paul Wall?

04:07:02.700 Gray hair is genetic.

04:07:03.400 Nick, you got Paul Wall?

04:07:04.140 I do.

04:07:04.580 You got Paul Wall?

04:07:05.960 Let's see Paul Wall.

04:07:07.060 Love it.

04:07:08.780 We're a.

04:07:09.480 Glow up.

04:07:10.380 Wait.

04:07:10.780 So on the far right.

04:07:12.580 On the far right.

04:07:13.840 He looks just like he brought him.

04:07:14.500 That's like young Paul Wall.

04:07:17.400 And then where are you going?

04:07:18.140 And then I'm trying to find like older.

04:07:20.060 Wait, scroll down a bit, Nick.

04:07:21.140 Wait, wait.

04:07:21.800 Okay, okay.

04:07:22.220 So look at the far left.

04:07:24.680 That's like young Paul.

04:07:25.720 Brian, it's you with the grill on.

04:07:26.160 And then the one where he's smiling three down.

04:07:29.500 No, no, no, no.

04:07:30.080 One over.

04:07:30.980 One over.

04:07:31.560 Here.

04:07:31.920 Okay.

04:07:32.180 No, no, no.

04:07:32.600 Nick.

04:07:32.720 The scarf?

04:07:33.420 Click far left.

04:07:35.100 With the chain going up.

04:07:36.240 Yeah.

04:07:37.120 Literally Brian with the grill on.

04:07:38.300 You click it so it's a bit bigger.

04:07:40.520 Okay.

04:07:40.840 Then scroll down here a little bit.

04:07:43.380 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

04:07:45.220 Here.

04:07:45.940 On the left.

04:07:47.300 No.

04:07:47.960 Okay.

04:07:48.260 You could just X, I guess.

04:07:49.940 Yeah.

04:07:50.120 And then the one where he's smiling far left.

04:07:52.620 Just below it.

04:07:53.540 Just below it.

04:07:54.800 I think that's a glow up, dude.

04:07:57.100 Drugs, no drugs.

04:07:58.320 That's a glow up.

04:07:59.720 It's a glow up.

04:08:00.420 And he's still got the grills.

04:08:02.160 It's not like the best glow up I've ever seen.

04:08:03.080 He looks healthier.

04:08:04.300 Tipping all fo-fos.

04:08:06.180 I'm just saying.

04:08:06.580 Yeah, I feel like it's because he's not on.

04:08:07.920 I'm seeing some stuff.

04:08:09.700 Oh, let's do Twitch, then do Discord really quick.

04:08:12.520 Guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.

04:08:15.480 Drop us a follow in the Prime sub if you have on twitch.tv slash whatever.

04:08:18.980 Drop us a follow in the Prime sub.

04:08:20.140 Guys, there's almost 2,000 people watching on Twitch.

04:08:22.080 Thank you guys so much.

04:08:22.980 Drop us a follow.

04:08:23.980 And if you have a Prime sub available, guys, it's been, let's see, how long has it been?

04:08:28.540 Where's the last Prime?

04:08:29.540 Two hours ago, boys.

04:08:31.220 I think it's bugged.

04:08:33.200 Help.

04:08:33.800 Help.

04:08:34.920 Help.

04:08:35.300 I think it's bugged.

04:08:35.960 There you go.

04:08:36.780 Brian's teeny peen, bro.

04:08:38.800 How are you going to, how are you going to, first off, it's average.

04:08:42.160 Get it right.

04:08:43.660 Secondly, how are you going to throw me under the bus like that, Brian's teeny peen?

04:08:49.540 Thank you for the Prime.

04:08:52.920 Rage ahead.

04:08:53.640 Thank you for the Prime.

04:08:54.380 Appreciate it, guys.

04:08:55.020 And then let's do Discord really quick.

04:08:56.800 Guys, discord.gg slash whatever.

04:08:58.820 If you don't know, me and Maddie, we went out to do an IRL stream on the mean streets of Santa Barbara.

04:09:08.440 And we had to take it down.

04:09:09.740 We had to take it down.

04:09:10.520 And we had to delete it because this twat, this twat in the pink polo here, said some very, very, very TOS shit.

04:09:17.960 Had to delete the whole stream because of him.

04:09:20.460 If you want to see the clip, we can't post it on YouTube.

04:09:22.700 We can't even play it on stream now.

04:09:24.460 Go to discord.gg slash whatever.

04:09:26.780 You got to join.

04:09:27.940 You got to join.

04:09:29.420 So we had to delete it?

04:09:30.560 Or did they delete it for us?

04:09:32.760 They didn't delete it for us.

04:09:33.960 I preemptively deleted it just because you got to be careful.

04:09:38.440 You got to be careful out there.

04:09:39.880 What's TOS mean?

04:09:41.640 It's like terms of service.

04:09:43.180 Like someone said or did something that's against, like, put your channel at risk.

04:09:47.580 Talking out shit.

04:09:48.700 Yeah.

04:09:49.340 So let me.

04:09:50.360 We got to get through.

04:09:51.800 What's up?

04:09:52.240 Are you wanting to react?

04:09:53.540 What were some?

04:09:54.260 Oh, yeah.

04:09:54.480 We got reacts.

04:09:55.200 What are the reacts?

04:09:55.920 What do we got?

04:09:57.300 What do we have?

04:09:58.640 What's the first one?

04:10:00.380 Oh, this is going back to Lauren here.

04:10:01.880 Oh, it is amazing.

04:10:02.820 Wow, wow.

04:10:03.340 These reacts are bug boys.

04:10:04.840 You got to send in the super chats, boy.

04:10:06.420 The reacts are bug boys.

04:10:07.860 They're bug boys.

04:10:08.760 You got to send them in.

04:10:10.160 I don't know what's going on.

04:10:11.280 Like, YouTube's just, like, being a piece of shit or whatever.

04:10:15.380 It's the federal government.

04:10:16.720 Thank you for the primate.

04:10:18.300 Okay.

04:10:19.200 Lauren, can you read these, please?

04:10:20.700 Yes.

04:10:21.280 One of the biggest misconceptions about being a virgin in your 30s is that you are religious

04:10:25.160 or saving yourself for a husband, but no one really knows what to do with you when you

04:10:29.520 aren't affiliated with any particular religion and don't want to get married.

04:10:33.100 LOL.

04:10:33.920 The facts are I believe in a higher power, and that's about as far as it goes.

04:10:37.200 I'm humble enough to recognize I don't know everything.

04:10:40.020 That doesn't mean I'm going to share my body with any old Joe Schmo, though, and being legally

04:10:43.540 bound to someone through marriage is so not my dream, but would I do a committed long-term

04:10:47.120 relationship should the right guy come around?

04:10:48.720 Yes.

04:10:48.960 Yes, I would.

04:10:49.620 Stay tuned for part seven in the series.

04:10:51.360 And then there's another one, Nick.

04:10:52.480 We'll do that one, too.

04:10:53.440 It's like an Instagram page.

04:10:55.980 Do you want to sound over it?

04:10:58.200 Yeah.

04:11:00.120 There she is, ladies.

04:11:01.820 No, you don't have to play it.

04:11:02.800 No one has higher standards than the thicker skin.

04:11:05.080 No one has higher...

04:11:06.200 Say this for us.

04:11:07.380 No one has higher standards than thicker skin than a 33-year-old virgin.

04:11:11.460 Radical feminist.

04:11:12.360 So patriarchal.

04:11:13.340 Ew.

04:11:13.720 Red pill bros.

04:11:14.540 Expired meat.

04:11:15.300 Heh heh.

04:11:16.220 Word.

04:11:16.820 But it's true, though.

04:11:17.700 It's like...

04:11:18.020 I mean, I get it from both sides.

04:11:19.380 You know what I mean?

04:11:19.700 No one has higher standards.

04:11:20.940 No, I'm going to challenge this, right?

04:11:22.960 Absolutely.

04:11:23.440 I don't think it's true.

04:11:24.860 I think that what you've created is a false dialectic, where you're paraphrasing what the

04:11:30.000 position of each is, even though that's not actually the position.

04:11:33.040 I don't think that any red pill bro would give a flying fuck under the sun that you wanted

04:11:37.280 to retain your virginity due to the fact that you're just not attracted or asexual.

04:11:42.260 I think instead, the pushback you would get probably would be from the, quote, Christ

04:11:46.840 pill bros who would just say, well, this isn't being done for the purpose of virtue,

04:11:50.620 but just, like, due to quirks, right?

04:11:54.000 Yeah.

04:11:54.540 I would say, I mean, I would just say going off of some of the comments from being on

04:12:01.900 this podcast the last time, I would say that a lot of them were that I was expired because

04:12:06.860 I'm in my 30s, although I don't want to have kids.

04:12:10.160 And then I would say in terms of, like, the other side with the ladies, maybe, like, more

04:12:16.940 of the modern day feminists, I feel like I get a lot of, that I have internalized misogyny,

04:12:24.300 that I'm part of the patriarchy.

04:12:27.880 It's like I'm part of the problem.

04:12:30.500 So I do feel like I'm getting it from both sides.

04:12:33.540 Well, I think that there's a conflation which happened.

04:12:35.800 I think that the conflation from the leftist side, the non-patriarchal side, is saying they

04:12:43.240 probably assume that because you're promoting your chastity and virginity, that you are some

04:12:49.860 kind of, like, right-wing patriarchist.

04:12:52.180 And so they're probably strawmanning your actual position.

04:12:55.180 I could see that as being true.

04:12:57.340 But the red pill version of it, I can't see as being true.

04:13:01.180 I don't see why any red pillar on planet Earth would give a shit one way or the other if

04:13:06.780 you retained your chastity based on asexuality.

04:13:10.760 Though I do think that an argument could be made from their end that if they're saying

04:13:16.320 expired, they just mean, well, what's the point in keeping the chastity if you get past

04:13:21.060 your 30s and are unable to bear children?

04:13:24.120 What would be the point of the allure for a man who wanted children?

04:13:27.480 Which I think would be a fair point, but, yeah.

04:13:31.480 Yeah, I mean, I think that's fair enough.

04:13:33.080 I think, you know, obviously some guys aren't going to respect it if they want kids, and

04:13:38.620 that's totally fair.

04:13:41.080 I've been very open about the fact that I don't want kids, so I don't see the problem

04:13:45.020 in it, necessarily.

04:13:46.420 But I would say, though, I don't think that I have less value as a virgin because I don't

04:13:54.240 want to have kids and don't want to be legal.

04:13:55.940 Yeah, well, you would have significantly less value to men.

04:13:58.900 Well, that's fair.

04:13:59.660 I mean, yeah, men that want that, of course, that's fair.

04:14:02.040 Well, no, no, no.

04:14:02.680 I mean, just, well, most men.

04:14:05.120 Because I don't want kids.

04:14:06.680 Yeah, would be desirous of a virgin because of the paternal aspect of this, right?

04:14:12.560 Yeah, that's fair.

04:14:12.960 I think that that would lessen the desirability.

04:14:16.580 I understand kind of the play of both sides of hitting both sides, but I don't see how

04:14:22.020 a red pill position, and I'm no red piller by any means, by the way, but I do understand

04:14:27.960 the position.

04:14:28.900 I don't actually see why they would give a shit one way or the other.

04:14:32.140 Yeah.

04:14:32.240 Well, and I think, honestly, the criticism from the red pill would be that your standards

04:14:37.280 are too high.

04:14:38.760 I think that would be the criticism, not that you're expired.

04:14:41.580 But there's standards, right?

04:14:42.980 It's just like, it's asexuality.

04:14:45.420 Like, what standards are we even appealing to?

04:14:47.920 Well, I'm not full-blown asexuality.

04:14:50.160 I mean, like I said, it's not that I'm asexual necessarily.

04:14:55.600 I just am not attracted frequently to people.

04:14:58.160 So I guess, yes, you could categorize it as that.

04:15:00.200 There's a lot of qualifiers going on here which are really hard to navigate.

04:15:04.520 I'm not necessarily, I'm not really, I kind of am, but I'm not.

04:15:10.500 There's a lot of, like, qualifiers to navigate this idea.

04:15:14.120 So let's, maybe we can consolidate the idea.

04:15:16.760 Okay.

04:15:18.220 Asexuality.

04:15:19.120 I don't want to have sex with the opposite sex because I don't find sex and sexuality

04:15:25.940 to be particularly appealing.

04:15:27.460 And that's where I would not consider myself asexual because it's not that I wouldn't have

04:15:34.940 sex with someone or find it appealing.

04:15:36.680 I'm not asking if you would or wouldn't, but generally speaking, you seem to stay away

04:15:41.480 from it because it's not like some, it has no real import to you.

04:15:47.460 Sexuality itself is not of great importance to you.

04:15:50.900 I, I, I want to be, try to be as honest as I can.

04:15:58.120 I feel like it's not that, it's not that I don't see the value in it.

04:16:02.020 It's not that I don't want to have sex, but I'm not going to just sleep with someone to

04:16:06.260 sleep with someone.

04:16:07.320 Does that make sense?

04:16:08.320 So if I'm not.

04:16:09.520 We've already established this stuff.

04:16:10.720 But that's diverting.

04:16:13.020 Oh, sorry.

04:16:13.760 Go ahead, Brian.

04:16:14.940 No, I continue, but it's.

04:16:16.600 It feels like that's a real big diversion kind of away from what I'm saying.

04:16:22.120 I'm not saying you don't see value in sex.

04:16:25.040 I'm not saying you wouldn't have sex.

04:16:27.420 I'm saying that you're attractive.

04:16:30.160 Your attraction to men is almost negligible.

04:16:33.360 It's almost not there.

04:16:34.340 And you don't find sexuality personally to be of great importance to you or really of any

04:16:40.360 importance to you ultimately.

04:16:42.820 I understand what you're saying.

04:16:44.060 Yeah, I mean, like I said, to the right person, yes.

04:16:49.280 I don't really know what to say other than that.

04:16:51.480 Wouldn't every asexual person say that?

04:16:53.900 I don't think so, no.

04:16:55.040 If the person came along, I wouldn't be asexual anymore.

04:16:58.620 Like, wouldn't that be kind of the great cope of all asexual people?

04:17:01.520 Well, I don't think so.

04:17:02.640 I think that literally goes back to what we were saying.

04:17:04.040 Like, if you don't know what it feels like, then technically, like, you would be considered

04:17:07.820 that because you don't know what it'd feel like to be indifferent from that.

04:17:11.740 Right, exactly.

04:17:12.540 And I also feel that a lot of people who consider themselves asexual are sex-averse and know

04:17:17.060 for sure or are grossed out by sex and wouldn't want to have sex.

04:17:21.360 So I actually don't think that's true.

04:17:22.480 It's interesting.

04:17:23.240 I've talked to several asexual people, male and female.

04:17:27.100 And the universal that I found between all of them was the idea that if the right person

04:17:32.640 came along, then I would probably break the asexuality.

04:17:37.160 But they just never have.

04:17:39.220 That's fair.

04:17:39.580 And so I just don't really feel much in the way of attraction to people.

04:17:42.620 But if I ever did, if suddenly I did find other people attractive, then I would.

04:17:48.580 But aren't you just saying kind of the same thing?

04:17:50.900 Isn't that really the same thing you're saying?

04:17:53.100 I guess.

04:17:53.840 Yeah.

04:17:54.160 That makes sense.

04:17:54.760 Wait, can we pull the article back up?

04:17:57.320 Yeah.

04:17:58.500 My article.

04:18:00.320 So it says in the article, so you're an only child, right?

04:18:03.960 Can you scroll down, Nick?

04:18:05.060 Yeah.

04:18:06.140 To kind of keep going.

04:18:10.000 Keep going.

04:18:10.700 Keep going.

04:18:11.080 Okay, this part.

04:18:12.680 Can you read it, Lauren, from here?

04:18:14.260 As an only child, Harkins learned early on how to be content on her own and never actively

04:18:18.420 pursued a relationship.

04:18:19.980 And while her friends navigated the ups and downs of young love, Harkins, it's funny to

04:18:24.560 call myself Harkins, was dealing with the death of her father, William, who passed away

04:18:27.920 when she was a teenager.

04:18:29.180 Harkins now lives primarily off her late dad's trust fund and has enjoyed an action-packed life

04:18:32.800 of travel and adventure, saying sex simply wasn't a priority.

04:18:35.900 Okay.

04:18:43.160 Okay.

04:18:44.200 Well, this changes the context significantly.

04:18:47.980 So sex for you has never had to be a tool of barter for resource, right?

04:18:52.680 So you're essentially a trust fund baby?

04:18:56.920 Yes.

04:18:58.080 Yeah.

04:18:58.560 Okay.

04:18:59.380 So then your interactions are definitely outside of the norm, right?

04:19:04.440 Yeah, for sure.

04:19:05.080 I don't know how that changes.

04:19:06.640 What's the trust fund looking like?

04:19:09.700 What does the trust fund look like now?

04:19:11.100 I spend a lot of money, so.

04:19:12.420 It's what?

04:19:12.900 I spend a lot of money, so I don't imagine it'll be a forever thing.

04:19:17.180 I mean, my dad wasn't a millionaire, so, you know.

04:19:19.180 Oh.

04:19:19.820 I'm an only child, but.

04:19:21.880 He wasn't a millionaire.

04:19:22.620 Only child trust fund.

04:19:23.920 He wasn't a millionaire.

04:19:25.160 Was not.

04:19:27.020 However, I would like to comment and say that I am sorry about your father's passing.

04:19:30.980 That's awful.

04:19:31.720 Thank you.

04:19:31.980 I wouldn't wish that on anybody.

04:19:33.460 That's a terrible thing.

04:19:35.300 But let's get back to the trust fund baby thing, okay?

04:19:37.940 All right.

04:19:40.600 So the idea that you've, I mean, how is this not just basically all down to a series of

04:19:47.140 quirks?

04:19:47.680 I mean, it basically has to be, right?

04:19:50.140 So you have this great big trust fund.

04:19:52.380 You have no reliance on the opposite sex.

04:19:54.220 You can basically live in your own world free from the externalities of the world because

04:19:59.460 you don't really have to live in it, right?

04:20:01.280 I mean, have you even had a job?

04:20:02.840 Have you ever really had a job?

04:20:04.420 Like a real job?

04:20:05.340 Yeah.

04:20:05.780 I mean, I worked in corrections for two years.

04:20:08.520 I've done jobs.

04:20:09.620 I would say that working in like the law enforcement field was the most fulfilling job that I've

04:20:15.200 had.

04:20:15.400 Would you date anybody?

04:20:17.360 Like, hang on, hang on.

04:20:18.280 I just want to clarify a couple of things real quick, real quick.

04:20:20.680 When you say I worked in corrections for two years, was it a part-time job?

04:20:26.000 Yes, it was.

04:20:27.120 I've never had a full-time job.

04:20:28.540 I thought it might have been.

04:20:29.500 Yeah, 100%.

04:20:29.940 I thought it might have been a part-time job.

04:20:30.680 Wait, you've never had a full-time job?

04:20:32.280 Never had a full-time job.

04:20:33.020 34, never had a full-time job?

04:20:34.560 That's crazy.

04:20:35.840 Yeah.

04:20:36.340 Damn.

04:20:36.740 So your interactions with the world are extremely limited, right?

04:20:41.380 You've never, I mean, all your jobs have either been part-time or just no job, right?

04:20:45.580 My interactions with the world are limited to the extent of jobs, yes.

04:20:53.060 Not just jobs, but the way that you engage with other people is going to be from an elitist

04:20:57.160 set, right?

04:20:58.040 No, not necessarily, no.

04:21:00.380 I think necessarily.

04:21:01.760 Like, how could you ever really understand the struggles that people go through?

04:21:05.640 You've never had to deal with any of them.

04:21:07.400 I guess to that, I would just say my friend circle is varied, ages, you know, different

04:21:15.900 economic class, so I don't, I'm not friends with people just based on social class or...

04:21:22.200 Well, I'm not saying that you're friends with them based on their social class.

04:21:24.820 That's not what I'm saying.

04:21:25.700 I'm saying that there's no way for you to internalize the same experience that they do

04:21:28.940 because you've never gone through anything like it, right?

04:21:31.620 Sure, that's fair, yeah.

04:21:32.340 You're basically born with a silver spoon in your mouth, so your experiences are far and

04:21:36.640 way different.

04:21:37.240 This is actually interesting to note as well that a trust fund baby with a silver spoon

04:21:45.920 in her mouth, born with a silver spoon in her mouth, had an article written up on her

04:21:50.420 about virginity from a secular worldview.

04:21:54.260 Do you think there's any correlation there?

04:21:56.320 Like, do you have contacts in media?

04:21:57.860 Is that why that happened?

04:21:59.220 No, they reached out to me based on my social media.

04:22:03.420 But I would like to clarify, when you said that I was born with a silver spoon,

04:22:06.640 in my mouth.

04:22:07.040 I mean, I wasn't.

04:22:07.640 I was raised, you know, middle, upper class.

04:22:10.500 I only have been able to afford my lifestyle because my dad passed away.

04:22:15.760 Yeah, but he passed away when you were very young.

04:22:17.660 Yeah, I was 16.

04:22:18.980 Yeah, so you were very young.

04:22:20.180 So, no, the externalities of now having a huge fund of money, which is at your disposal,

04:22:27.920 definitely shield you from the externalities of the world in a way most people don't get,

04:22:32.340 right?

04:22:32.720 No, that's fair, yeah.

04:22:33.480 Yeah, I wouldn't dispute that for sure, yeah.

04:22:36.020 Yeah.

04:22:36.580 And let me just ask this one last follow-up question.

04:22:39.820 If I were to take two boxes and just see which ones you filled the most, right?

04:22:45.200 I'm not asking for which one you think you fit perfectly into.

04:22:48.200 Two watches?

04:22:48.800 But just the two boxes.

04:22:50.700 Boxes.

04:22:51.120 Just the one that we fill the most.

04:22:53.200 Okay.

04:22:53.460 If I put up the box for progressive or conservative, you would fill the progressive box far more

04:22:59.140 than the conservative box, wouldn't you?

04:23:01.200 No, I don't think so.

04:23:02.500 Would you only say that because I'm not traditional?

04:23:05.720 No, I would say that based on social issues, which I would assume that you would have.

04:23:09.620 Can I name the social issues and we'll see how correct I am?

04:23:12.420 Yeah, absolutely.

04:23:12.520 Yep.

04:23:13.580 When it comes to abortion, women have the right to choose.

04:23:17.020 I've always been pro-choice, so yeah, that's true.

04:23:18.780 Yeah, okay, so women have the right to choose.

04:23:21.060 Okay, hang on, hang on, hang on.

04:23:22.580 Yes, ma'am.

04:23:23.140 I'm not asking for the caveats yet.

04:23:24.780 Yes.

04:23:25.220 Okay.

04:23:27.100 Social justice matters.

04:23:32.320 Social justice matters?

04:23:34.600 Mm-hmm.

04:23:36.720 I don't think I would check that one.

04:23:39.120 No, social justice doesn't matter?

04:23:41.520 I wouldn't check that box for myself.

04:23:43.260 Do black lives matter?

04:23:45.720 Oh, Shander's going deep with it.

04:23:47.740 It's not deep.

04:23:50.780 What?

04:23:55.660 All lives matter.

04:23:58.600 Okay.

04:23:59.880 So moving to the next social, is equality important and is feminism a product of its time which was necessary to free women from the entanglements of the enslavement of the patriarchal?

04:24:14.280 At the time, in, you know, first wave feminism, second wave feminism, yes.

04:24:21.160 I wouldn't say I have any value.

04:24:23.380 I don't think that has a value to that.

04:24:24.400 You're progressive, through and through, progressive.

04:24:26.520 Really?

04:24:26.980 Okay.

04:24:27.420 Interesting.

04:24:28.060 Mm-hmm.

04:24:28.300 I don't think you're asking me questions, though, that I would check more of the conservative box on.

04:24:36.680 Well, okay.

04:24:37.300 Well, what is a conservative?

04:24:40.920 I would say, in a lot of ways, traditional, which I don't check that box with a lot of things.

04:24:46.400 Traditional.

04:24:47.160 Well, okay.

04:24:47.760 Traditional.

04:24:47.900 Traditional.

04:24:48.580 Traditionalism can be correlated, sure.

04:24:50.560 Mm-hmm.

04:24:50.860 But traditionalism, meaning what?

04:24:52.900 You wear, like, a fedora and a long coat, and you have a house where you have a mommy and a daddy and kids.

04:24:58.860 Is that what traditional is?

04:25:00.020 Or what is traditional?

04:25:01.400 What are these values you're alluding to?

04:25:03.620 Oh, man.

04:25:04.360 I mean, that's a, I guess, one way of looking at it.

04:25:12.920 What's the way you look at it?

04:25:15.160 How do I look at traditional?

04:25:16.780 Traditional.

04:25:16.960 Wait, are we trying to ascertain?

04:25:17.840 Well, what is conservative?

04:25:18.680 I'm just asking, basically, what is conservatism?

04:25:21.200 What is it?

04:25:21.880 You're not traditional, though.

04:25:23.340 I'm not traditional.

04:25:24.080 She's not traditional.

04:25:25.000 But I agree.

04:25:25.960 She's not traditional.

04:25:26.820 I'm just wondering what that means.

04:25:27.260 No, but she says it.

04:25:28.180 She says it.

04:25:28.720 Yeah, I'm definitely, I'm 100% not traditional.

04:25:30.900 But I...

04:25:31.100 I'm not saying you are.

04:25:32.000 I'm just wondering what that means to you.

04:25:33.100 And that's okay.

04:25:33.600 But I, in terms of conservatism, I feel like a lot of my values and the content I enjoy

04:25:39.540 and the things that I agree with are more conservative than progressive.

04:25:43.120 Wait, can you name one of those values?

04:25:44.900 Oh, I think that's what he was asking.

04:25:46.260 Like, what's traditional?

04:25:47.020 Medical mandates, for one.

04:25:49.460 Medical mandates for what?

04:25:51.420 For...

04:25:51.900 No, I don't...

04:25:53.400 Like, yeah, I mean...

04:25:56.200 I don't know where that's...

04:25:57.760 I don't even know what the hell that means, medical mandates.

04:25:59.020 I don't believe in medical mandates.

04:26:01.600 Oh, you mean for...

04:26:02.580 Oh, okay.

04:26:03.060 Okay, for that.

04:26:03.920 Okay, yeah, but that's not a conservative.

04:26:05.680 There's plenty of progressives who never believed in mandates for lockdowns, for instance.

04:26:09.180 Okay.

04:26:09.240 So, what is an actual conservative value you adhere to, a real value?

04:26:15.280 Second Amendment?

04:26:18.180 There's liberals who believe in the Second Amendment.

04:26:21.340 Okay.

04:26:23.660 Yeah, I don't know.

04:26:24.500 I guess we just aren't seeing eye to eye on that one.

04:26:26.580 I'm kind of...

04:26:28.500 So, guns and no lockdowns, and that's conservatism?

04:26:32.120 No, I wouldn't say that's conservatism, but I never claimed to be a true conservative.

04:26:35.120 I just said, for the most part, my values are conservative-leaning.

04:26:40.160 But...

04:26:40.680 I would say the opposite.

04:26:41.840 I would say they're very progressive-leaning.

04:26:43.480 By the way, if you start off with, I'm pro-choice, right?

04:26:46.880 That's fair.

04:26:47.060 I think that any other position you have behind that is irrelevant when it comes to the progressive-conservative dialectic.

04:26:53.060 That's fair.

04:26:53.580 I would say one thing, though, because I would like to clarify.

04:26:57.280 I feel like since becoming more conservative, I can see where the other side is coming from with that.

04:27:02.340 But I would still say, yes, I am pro-choice.

04:27:05.540 However, I can see where the other side is coming from.

04:27:07.640 I think that's important to know as well.

04:27:10.040 Well, I can see where the other side is coming from, too.

04:27:12.580 They're just fucking wrong, right?

04:27:14.720 Yeah, and that's fair.

04:27:15.480 I feel like I'm, like I said, you're obviously more traditional and conservative than I am, and I totally respect that.

04:27:21.640 But I'm not...

04:27:22.480 I do not associate traditionalism with conservativeism.

04:27:25.520 What is traditional, then, in this aspect, right?

04:27:27.680 Because, like, you know, you're not traditional.

04:27:30.920 Traditionalism is set with cultural standards.

04:27:33.100 It's just saying we're appealing to experiments that worked.

04:27:36.540 So men pay for dates.

04:27:38.080 They open car doors.

04:27:39.600 There's a way that they react and act around their families.

04:27:42.720 There's a way in which stoicism is applied.

04:27:44.720 That's all the idea of traditionalism and application to culture.

04:27:48.560 Conservatism is a political ideology based around the conservation of the ideal of the ethical framework of Christianity.

04:27:56.200 That's what it is.

04:27:57.720 Progressivism is the slow march, the slow march towards social equality,

04:28:03.800 trying in every way possible to eliminate whatever perception of injustice exists on planet Earth.

04:28:10.280 That's the distinction between the two ideologies.

04:28:12.360 Well, that's fair.

04:28:14.100 I mean, I think, to be honest, you're a fantastic debater.

04:28:17.960 You know way more about this than I do.

04:28:20.800 So I respect your opinion.

04:28:23.020 I respect your views.

04:28:24.580 Yeah.

04:28:24.920 Well, I'm just trying to understand, that's all.

04:28:26.680 Yeah.

04:28:27.020 But anyway, I appreciate the inquiry.

04:28:29.780 I can see that Brian looks like he's going to punch himself in the mouth.

04:28:32.640 So I'm going to turn the mic back over to him so he can move it on.

04:28:35.420 But I just want to try to get some of the other panelists involved here.

04:28:42.180 So going through the notes here, going to Lauren.

04:28:46.300 You're a horse girl.

04:28:48.520 That's what you put on the episode name.

04:28:50.660 Yep.

04:28:51.240 You got five horses.

04:28:53.160 You got five horses.

04:28:58.360 Yep.

04:28:58.720 Does it ever get in the way of your dating?

04:29:04.220 No.

04:29:06.240 I think guys find it interesting.

04:29:07.960 I ride horses.

04:29:10.640 Okay.

04:29:11.120 I think it's super cool.

04:29:12.420 Is there anything to the trope of horse girls being crazy?

04:29:15.900 Is there anything there?

04:29:16.480 Oh, yeah.

04:29:16.960 I get that a lot.

04:29:17.740 Are you crazy?

04:29:19.900 A little bit, yeah.

04:29:22.080 How are you crazy?

04:29:23.020 Um, I feel like my past has, like, made me crazy.

04:29:27.520 Like, guys, like, made me crazy, like, not being communicative or, like, not living up

04:29:34.260 to the standard, like, I want.

04:29:35.440 So it created me, like, with trust issues.

04:29:37.060 So then it kind of filtered into relationships.

04:29:40.420 So that's what kind of made me crazy.

04:29:42.840 Okay.

04:29:44.180 And how did it filter into relationships?

04:29:46.360 The trust issue thing.

04:29:47.440 Like, when the guy said, like, is it fair if, like, my girl is, like, being crazy?

04:29:52.480 Like, if I've never brokered a trust, like, I've definitely had my fair share of, like,

04:29:56.780 something happened in my past, and then it kind of was, like, I don't know how to explain

04:30:04.140 this for good.

04:30:05.080 Like, someone did something, like, in my past, and, like, someone in, like, who I'm currently

04:30:09.220 dating is, like, kind of showing, like, signs of it, and then I'll, like, go crazy about

04:30:12.900 it and be, like, well, this is what happened before.

04:30:14.340 Like, why wouldn't I think it's happening again?

04:30:16.140 And then I'd have to be, like, wait, like, this is a different person I'm dating.

04:30:19.420 I'm not dating that other person.

04:30:21.060 That kind of makes sense.

04:30:22.980 Okay.

04:30:26.820 People say horse girls are crazy, but I've always found them rather stable.

04:30:32.940 Ha, ha, ha, ha.

04:30:34.280 I want to be a horse girl.

04:30:35.860 Some people think horse girls are real nightmares.

04:30:39.620 I don't know if I am a nightmare.

04:30:41.960 Well, I would like to dive into a couple things.

04:30:45.740 I've been trying to do a little bit of math over here.

04:30:49.180 Brian, can you play the math emblem?

04:30:52.180 I just want to make sure that I have this right.

04:30:55.180 You have five different horses which are boarded all over the country and are currently being

04:31:00.360 trained, correct?

04:31:01.640 State.

04:31:02.140 Yeah.

04:31:02.380 What is the average cost to have one of these horses trained?

04:31:07.540 I just dropped $20,000 on all five of my horses, so about $4,000 each, right?

04:31:15.880 Okay.

04:31:16.280 And how often do you have to drop payments on these horses being trained?

04:31:20.840 I'm sorry, repeat that?

04:31:22.200 How often do you have to drop cash on these horses being trained?

04:31:25.280 That was a one-time payment.

04:31:26.240 They're only there for about four to six months, and I have to go and get them when I get back

04:31:32.820 home.

04:31:33.960 So, wait, for $20,000, you can have six horses trained?

04:31:38.280 Basically.

04:31:40.680 Five horses.

04:31:41.840 And they're boarding them for this cost as well, feeding them, all of that?

04:31:46.780 Six of them?

04:31:48.100 Five of them.

04:31:49.920 Oh, I'm sorry.

04:31:50.820 Five of them.

04:31:51.560 Yeah.

04:31:51.720 So, it's only $5,000 per horse to have them boarded for six months and trained?

04:31:59.780 Mm-hmm.

04:32:01.700 I don't, I literally just don't believe that this is even possible or true.

04:32:06.420 I don't.

04:32:06.940 Well, I read that track.

04:32:07.440 I'm not trying to be charitable here, but I just don't think anybody would board a horse

04:32:12.160 for half a year for $5,000 and train it.

04:32:15.480 I know trainers pretty well up and down California.

04:32:18.840 That's why.

04:32:19.780 So, they're just doing it as a favor?

04:32:21.100 Some of them are.

04:32:22.500 Some of them aren't.

04:32:25.140 My most expensive for like six months was about $10,000.

04:32:31.620 And you're shelling out all of this money?

04:32:34.020 Yeah.

04:32:35.020 You shelled out $20,000.

04:32:37.100 What do you do for a living?

04:32:38.500 I do social media management.

04:32:40.020 I'm a server.

04:32:41.020 I am influencer.

04:32:43.560 Mute it, mute it, mute it, mute it.

04:32:45.140 Well, are these like highly productive jobs when it comes to payment?

04:32:53.280 Well, yeah.

04:32:53.780 Like I pay them either, like we have payment plans because like obviously I can't give out

04:32:58.580 $10,000 at a time.

04:33:00.320 So, like I'll pay them like monthly.

04:33:01.740 You're doing like pay-go?

04:33:03.100 Yeah.

04:33:03.780 Like after pay or like a credit card.

04:33:07.380 Okay.

04:33:07.900 No, I'm not like physically and have like a bag of cash and it's like, here you go.

04:33:12.360 And there's no external help from the parents at all for the horses.

04:33:15.600 I just want to make sure we're clear.

04:33:16.560 Yeah, that's why I haven't been able to move out and I'm 21.

04:33:19.040 I have more notes to get to you from you.

04:33:20.740 But before we do that, I did want to ask this question.

04:33:23.600 It's related to a conversation we were having a little bit earlier on in the show.

04:33:27.800 I know some of you are in relationships, but to answer the question as if you were single,

04:33:33.340 I suppose you can even answer this question despite your relationship status.

04:33:37.040 Do you think men should pay for first dates?

04:33:39.620 Not always.

04:33:41.500 Okay.

04:33:42.260 Like pay for the meal or something like that?

04:33:44.700 Sure.

04:33:46.560 Yeah, I guess so.

04:33:48.860 Yeah?

04:33:49.280 Yes.

04:33:50.300 Into the mic if you can?

04:33:51.340 Oh, yes.

04:33:53.340 Yes.

04:33:54.320 Yes.

04:33:55.260 Yes.

04:33:56.260 Yes.

04:33:57.120 Yeah.

04:33:57.920 Okay.

04:33:59.040 You said yes.

04:34:00.720 Yes, yes, yes.

04:34:01.960 I'm a little confused here because wouldn't that be a man falling into his traditional gender roles?

04:34:11.120 Yes, I love traditional gender roles.

04:34:13.380 But are you deserving of traditional treatment from men?

04:34:20.240 I believe so.

04:34:21.240 I think so, yeah.

04:34:22.120 Are you deserving?

04:34:23.080 I know you're in a relationship with a woman, but are you deserving of traditional treatment from men?

04:34:30.100 Yeah.

04:34:31.860 Into the mic.

04:34:32.940 Would it be the same thing?

04:34:33.700 Like, would you let a girl pay for your first meal?

04:34:35.800 Hold on.

04:34:36.440 Let's not derail.

04:34:37.280 Answer the question.

04:34:38.280 Sorry, what was the question again?

04:34:39.380 Are you deserving?

04:34:39.980 Are you deserving of traditional treatment?

04:34:43.140 Yeah.

04:34:43.760 Of course.

04:34:44.260 I think so.

04:34:45.200 Yes.

04:34:45.920 Hold on.

04:34:46.620 All four of you have been engaged in basically sex work.

04:34:51.540 You've all admitted to having sugar daddies.

04:34:54.540 Is that even approaching being a traditional woman, having sugar daddies?

04:35:00.540 Well, if we're talking about, like, 50-50, like, I, like, would say that, like, when you're

04:35:04.580 first trying to establish a relationship, like, if you can prove that, like, traditional

04:35:08.880 will be, like, gender roles.

04:35:10.340 I think that's where you're going.

04:35:11.440 Yeah.

04:35:12.560 You have to, for a woman, like, womanly duties, man willing duties, provide, but also be protective,

04:35:18.860 whatever.

04:35:19.920 The first coming first dates, like, yeah, pay for the meal.

04:35:22.580 But, like, when you're in a relationship and establish that a man might not always have

04:35:25.940 that or be able to provide all that.

04:35:28.080 So, you have to be able to match each other's energy, like, oh, I'll pay for this, if, you

04:35:31.440 know, like, because that's what we're in a relationship.

04:35:33.000 But you do obviously want to, like, look good in front of the woman.

04:35:37.740 Like, I mean, would you go on a date and not pay for the meal or would you let the girl

04:35:40.740 pay for the meal, man?

04:35:41.560 Well, that's a different conversation.

04:35:42.480 What he's asking is if you deserve it because you participated in sex work.

04:35:46.280 Do you deserve a man, a traditional man because you've done untraditional.

04:35:51.220 You used to be a stripper.

04:35:52.440 You've done sugaring or whatever.

04:35:55.840 Yeah, of course.

04:35:56.780 Yeah.

04:35:56.920 You still deserve it.

04:35:58.600 Yeah.

04:35:58.980 Okay.

04:36:00.080 All right.

04:36:01.460 Now, you were talking about, well, once you get into a relationship, then things can become

04:36:05.160 a bit more 50-50.

04:36:06.260 You said your longest relationship was two years.

04:36:08.420 Was it a 50-50 relationship?

04:36:10.360 Well, we were in junior college.

04:36:12.780 Yeah, I would say it was 50-50.

04:36:14.620 But at the beginning, he would pay for dates?

04:36:16.760 Yeah.

04:36:17.800 Okay.

04:36:18.340 Like, when he would go on our dates, when we went on movies, he'd pay for the dates.

04:36:21.320 When I traveled to Chicago, where he was from, I'd pay for other things.

04:36:25.780 Would he pay for the flight?

04:36:27.240 Yeah.

04:36:27.560 I paid for the flight.

04:36:28.500 Mm-hmm.

04:36:29.740 Okay.

04:36:31.580 But on the first dates, you do want the guy to pay?

04:36:35.020 Yeah.

04:36:35.660 Yeah.

04:36:35.900 And I think it recalls back to the accountability part.

04:36:38.240 Like, just because I danced back in the day, like, doesn't mean, like, I consecutively still

04:36:43.340 do it.

04:36:43.860 When's the last time you had a sugar daddy?

04:36:48.940 Like, two years now.

04:36:50.600 Mm-hmm.

04:36:50.860 And if a guy didn't pay for the first date, would there be a second date?

04:36:59.800 Yeah, I don't really think it matters that much.

04:37:01.960 You'd be, you want a guy to pay for the first date, but if he doesn't, you'd be okay with it.

04:37:06.480 If he didn't, like, if he didn't.

04:37:07.120 Would there be a second date if he didn't?

04:37:08.480 No, it's not a deal breaker.

04:37:09.620 I don't know.

04:37:10.020 So, okay.

04:37:10.780 Check comes.

04:37:13.840 Or the server comes.

04:37:15.760 Will there be anything else?

04:37:16.800 No.

04:37:17.840 Two checks, please.

04:37:19.220 Will there be a second date?

04:37:21.500 Yeah, of course.

04:37:22.440 Will there be a second date?

04:37:23.520 Yeah.

04:37:24.800 At least you stand on business.

04:37:27.140 If their personality is good, yes.

04:37:29.520 No.

04:37:30.500 No way.

04:37:31.800 Okay.

04:37:32.460 Hashtag, what's your price?

04:37:35.760 What's your price right there?

04:37:38.300 Well, I guess what is difficult for me to understand is, why do you, like, why should

04:37:47.100 a man pay for a first date?

04:37:49.200 That's what I want to know.

04:37:50.420 Because a man asked me out.

04:37:52.360 So?

04:37:54.240 Why are you going to ask me out if you can't pay for a date?

04:37:57.220 Do you ask guys out?

04:37:58.860 Do I ask guys out?

04:38:00.240 Absolutely not.

04:38:01.220 Have you ever asked a guy out?

04:38:02.460 No.

04:38:03.860 Okay.

04:38:04.940 So, de facto, men have to ask to get a date.

04:38:07.880 I feel like the reason that I believe men should always ask out women is because I think

04:38:13.040 it's a masculine thing.

04:38:15.080 Is it masculine?

04:38:15.920 Well, is it feminine to be duping men out of their money on a, for dates?

04:38:22.780 Is that feminine and traditional?

04:38:27.260 Shifting gears.

04:38:28.900 I think it's feminine, right?

04:38:30.280 Because, I mean.

04:38:30.640 It's feminine to manipulate and take advantage of men financially?

04:38:36.660 I guess you could say it's more of a female thing.

04:38:38.360 Yeah.

04:38:38.940 It's like a female thing.

04:38:39.980 Well, it's actually, I'm willing to grant this.

04:38:43.080 I'm willing to just kind of grant that it's true that it's far more masculine for a man

04:38:47.180 to ask a woman out on a date.

04:38:48.760 Then, of course, it would be feminine for a woman to ask a man out.

04:38:51.620 I'm just actually willing to just kind of grant that that's true.

04:38:53.860 Can you tell me why it's masculine to pay for the date, though?

04:38:57.620 Because, I mean.

04:38:59.040 I mean, now, like, I think things are different.

04:39:01.040 Like, I think, like, the pay and everything.

04:39:03.700 But back in the day, I feel like the reason men always paid for first dates was because

04:39:07.260 they make more money.

04:39:09.200 They're the providers, right?

04:39:10.380 Men are, like, providers, protectors.

04:39:12.520 Well, no, no.

04:39:13.460 They had expectations as suitors that they could potentially be finding a woman who they

04:39:18.320 could have children with.

04:39:19.500 And the expectation came that she would likely be a virgin or likely have almost no body count

04:39:25.560 whatsoever and would be a good wife to them, et cetera, et cetera.

04:39:28.560 So they were willing to shell that out in order to find the right ones in order to have

04:39:33.160 their children and be a good wife and all of those things.

04:39:36.220 This is a whole different scenario now.

04:39:39.600 And, again, I'm kind of willing to just grant that it's far more masculine for a man to

04:39:43.800 ask out a woman than it is feminine for a woman to ask out a man.

04:39:46.960 I'm just willing to grant that's true.

04:39:48.040 But why is it more masculine to pay?

04:39:50.640 That's what I'm not sure about.

04:39:53.680 I mean, for me, the men that I encounter usually just make more money.

04:39:57.020 But, like, I don't think a man has to pay.

04:40:00.020 But even if they don't make as much money, I don't understand why it's a masculine trope to

04:40:05.120 pay.

04:40:05.360 Why is that masculine?

04:40:07.280 I didn't.

04:40:07.860 Did I say that was masculine to pay?

04:40:09.080 Yeah, you said it was masculine.

04:40:10.100 To pay?

04:40:10.820 Yeah.

04:40:11.160 You said it was, like, a masculine thing to pay.

04:40:12.560 But I think, like, it comes out like a gender role.

04:40:14.220 I guess, like, masculine is just, like, I don't know.

04:40:16.580 It's just, like, yeah, gender roles, right?

04:40:18.440 Gender roles.

04:40:19.580 It's just.

04:40:20.760 So you have the expectation that men will pay because of gender roles?

04:40:24.160 Yeah.

04:40:24.700 I mean, just for the first date, I mean.

04:40:26.340 And what are women's gender roles supposed to be?

04:40:29.860 Should they be virgins as part of their gender role?

04:40:33.080 No.

04:40:33.400 I don't think they need to be very dense.

04:40:34.880 Oh, okay.

04:40:35.400 Well, then, no.

04:40:35.980 I don't think that men should have to adhere to any gender roles if you don't think that

04:40:40.360 women should have to adhere to any of theirs, right?

04:40:42.920 Yeah.

04:40:44.500 That's fair.

04:40:45.760 Yeah.

04:40:46.160 Makes sense.

04:40:47.060 Makes sense.

04:40:48.500 To each their own.

04:40:49.360 So, I guess, almost Andrew's already made the point, but just to kind of reframe it a little

04:40:55.860 bit, should men pay for first dates?

04:41:00.280 Just to you.

04:41:02.700 They don't have to.

04:41:03.880 No, but should.

04:41:04.760 Should they?

04:41:05.400 Yes.

04:41:06.160 I don't think they should.

04:41:06.480 Should women be virgins?

04:41:08.020 Should women be virgins?

04:41:09.220 Yes.

04:41:10.480 No.

04:41:10.760 No.

04:41:10.840 Okay.

04:41:17.800 There you have it.

04:41:18.700 Okay.

04:41:19.160 It's interesting.

04:41:19.820 Women have completely abandoned and cast aside any and all of their traditional gender roles.

04:41:26.060 Yet, with the utmost entitlement, still expect men to adhere to their traditional gender roles.

04:41:34.880 I find that interesting.

04:41:37.260 Kind of like the buffet of equality.

04:41:39.640 You want to pick and choose what benefits you.

04:41:41.980 Men have to still exist in the 1950s world, but women can exist in a 2024 world where you

04:41:50.060 do OF, you're a stripper, you do sugar daddy websites, you do all this stuff, but men should

04:41:57.500 pay for first dates, men should be providers, men should protect you, blah, blah, blah, blah,

04:42:02.940 blah, blah.

04:42:04.660 It's interesting how that works.

04:42:06.680 In fact, let's dive a little deeper.

04:42:10.440 What gender roles should women take on?

04:42:13.980 Should they take on any female gender roles?

04:42:16.440 Yes.

04:42:16.500 Like, what should they actually take on as females?

04:42:19.140 For sure.

04:42:19.440 What?

04:42:19.640 Well, what are they?

04:42:20.540 Well, for instance...

04:42:21.680 Hang on.

04:42:21.940 Let me ask her real quick.

04:42:23.060 She was making the claims first.

04:42:25.420 I want to ask you directly.

04:42:26.800 What actual gender roles should women take on?

04:42:31.660 Well, I mean, I still think women should have, like, a low body count.

04:42:35.300 I just don't think being a virgin is, like, a possibility nowadays.

04:42:39.120 Because, I mean, you date people, and then after you're two...

04:42:40.880 Oh, it's impossible?

04:42:43.080 Lauren!

04:42:44.240 I mean, I guess...

04:42:46.640 You just have to, right?

04:42:48.500 I mean, you must.

04:42:49.220 I mean, I feel like...

04:42:50.760 Okay, so low body count.

04:42:52.480 What other gender roles?

04:42:53.780 I feel like a guy won't date you more than a couple months if you don't end up having

04:42:59.620 a sexual relationship with them.

04:43:01.000 Okay, okay.

04:43:01.440 Forget that for a second.

04:43:01.500 So how are you supposed to date to marry nowadays?

04:43:03.140 What other gender roles besides just that do you think women should adhere to?

04:43:07.520 Cook, clean, be mothers.

04:43:10.600 Okay.

04:43:11.320 What if...

04:43:11.920 And what about submission to their husband?

04:43:14.600 Yeah, submission.

04:43:16.020 And what does that mean?

04:43:17.280 What's the entailment of submission?

04:43:20.280 Submit.

04:43:20.820 So just what they say goes.

04:43:23.080 Always?

04:43:23.980 Always.

04:43:24.420 What if you disagree about where your kid should go to school?

04:43:28.680 I don't care.

04:43:30.160 Should you submit to what the husband says?

04:43:32.440 Yeah.

04:43:33.360 Now, what if that school...

04:43:34.380 If he's a good man, I trust the decision.

04:43:36.360 Hang on, hang on.

04:43:36.480 What if the school is an hour and a half out of your way, and you say there's a perfectly

04:43:40.060 good school that's even better, and it's only 20 minutes away, right?

04:43:44.240 So I'd prefer to drop the kids off there.

04:43:46.320 You still going to submit?

04:43:47.460 Yes.

04:43:48.800 Yes.

04:43:49.380 Okay.

04:43:50.460 I'm very submissive, so...

04:43:52.560 You can ask my ex.

04:43:55.580 Wait.

04:43:56.700 Related to this, do you want to get married?

04:44:00.920 Yes.

04:44:01.540 Have kids?

04:44:02.200 Yes.

04:44:02.700 Do you want to get married?

04:44:03.500 Have kids?

04:44:04.560 Just say it into the mic.

04:44:05.400 Yeah.

04:44:06.060 Mm-hmm.

04:44:08.220 Yes.

04:44:08.880 Yeah.

04:44:09.740 Yeah, I want to get married.

04:44:10.700 No kids.

04:44:12.200 Have kids.

04:44:13.840 I have kids, too.

04:44:15.460 You're married.

04:44:16.180 Did you take your husband's last name?

04:44:17.820 Yes.

04:44:18.560 Will you take...

04:44:19.540 Well, are you going to marry a man, or...

04:44:21.560 I don't know.

04:44:22.560 You date women, so I don't know.

04:44:23.840 Or a mask female.

04:44:25.160 Will you take your husband's last name?

04:44:26.760 Yes, absolutely.

04:44:27.820 Okay.

04:44:28.200 Will you take your husband's last name?

04:44:29.860 Yes.

04:44:30.500 Yes.

04:44:31.180 Okay.

04:44:31.760 All right.

04:44:33.180 Hmm.

04:44:34.380 All right.

04:44:35.520 Didn't get you guys on that one.

04:44:38.660 I just...

04:44:39.900 It's interesting.

04:44:41.200 Like, going back to it really quick, it's...

04:44:43.420 So, a lot of women seem to...

04:44:46.620 They'll demand all the privileges and benefits of a liberalized society, while still demanding

04:44:53.800 men take on all the burdens of traditional society.

04:44:59.260 And it's just like, you want your cake and eat it, too.

04:45:05.500 You know?

04:45:05.840 What's the burden part?

04:45:06.640 The body count?

04:45:07.800 Because that seems like the only, like, controversial conversation that we had in regards to, like,

04:45:12.120 gender roles.

04:45:13.060 I'm not really sure, though, that I actually believe the answers that are given when it

04:45:18.120 comes to submission.

04:45:20.000 Most men will not abandon a submissive woman who is taking good care of them.

04:45:24.520 They just really won't do it, for the most part.

04:45:27.000 Though some do.

04:45:27.900 I recommend that there are some who will.

04:45:29.760 Killing of cereal donated $200.

04:45:31.920 Men, forced military conscription, cannot vote unless we sign up for selective service.

04:45:39.200 Women can vote to send men to war.

04:45:41.700 That alone says women should pay first.

04:45:44.460 Do you believe women should be drafted?

04:45:47.160 Just raise a show of hands, do you think women should be drafted in the same way that

04:45:53.220 men have to be drafted?

04:45:56.320 We're talking about war, right?

04:45:58.880 Maybe.

04:45:59.380 W, Andrew.

04:46:00.900 War, right?

04:46:01.420 You got, wait, you guys don't think.

04:46:03.300 Is that what you said?

04:46:03.880 You guys don't.

04:46:04.240 In the military, yes.

04:46:05.360 So, okay, the men have to register for the selective service in the event.

04:46:10.380 No way.

04:46:11.300 Women should stay home.

04:46:12.860 Women should stay home.

04:46:14.080 I think given the context of this.

04:46:16.180 Women should be virgins then, right?

04:46:18.320 Yeah, ideally, you know what?

04:46:19.720 Have only one sexual partner their entire life.

04:46:21.540 I would ideally want to have been a virgin for, I thought I was going to be in the relationship

04:46:26.240 with my kid's dad that I met at 18 for life.

04:46:29.900 You know?

04:46:31.520 Wait, so, okay.

04:46:32.360 Go ahead.

04:46:32.840 You were saying something, but I want explanations as to none of you raised your hand.

04:46:37.520 Well, I raised my hand.

04:46:39.180 I do think women should be drafted, like, given this context of the society that we're in.

04:46:43.680 And sent right to the front lines.

04:46:45.280 In this current society that we're in, I think it's fair if women are drafted, yeah.

04:46:50.920 Unless we regress.

04:46:51.620 And sent, look at the front lines.

04:46:52.760 Yeah.

04:46:53.320 Yeah, like infantry.

04:46:54.180 Right alongside the men.

04:46:55.400 Yeah, sure.

04:46:55.980 Yeah.

04:46:57.080 I'd say, like, if we were to regress back into, like, when the family structure was more traditional,

04:47:04.960 then sure, I'd say that women ought to stay home.

04:47:06.800 But given the climate that we're in right now, no, I don't think it's fair.

04:47:10.940 If you were drafted, would you go to work?

04:47:13.120 I would have to.

04:47:14.400 I'd be drafted.

04:47:14.740 Would you go?

04:47:15.720 Yeah.

04:47:16.060 You wouldn't have to.

04:47:16.780 You could dodge it.

04:47:17.540 Well, I don't think I, I don't know if I could dodge it, but I would go.

04:47:20.940 Yeah, if I was drafted.

04:47:22.020 Yeah, you would go.

04:47:23.200 Is there a draft dodger?

04:47:24.000 Wait, going around the table before we get into it.

04:47:26.240 Do you consider yourself a feminist?

04:47:27.880 No.

04:47:29.160 Honestly, no.

04:47:30.000 No?

04:47:30.380 Okay.

04:47:30.620 No.

04:47:34.980 No.

04:47:35.340 No.

04:47:36.260 No.

04:47:37.180 No.

04:47:38.420 No.

04:47:40.140 Is anyone a feminist here?

04:47:42.600 Well, I think Andrew's definition of feminist is a movement towards equality or egalitarianism

04:47:50.600 with a rejection of patriarchy.

04:47:52.880 Oh.

04:47:53.460 Does that, so rejection of patriarchy, does that change your answer, anybody?

04:48:00.000 No.

04:48:00.440 So then, in favor of patriarchy.

04:48:03.020 Yeah.

04:48:03.180 Um, I guess.

04:48:05.860 I don't, I haven't really thought about it.

04:48:07.560 I mean, I'm dating a woman, so maybe that's going to make a difference.

04:48:10.820 Okay.

04:48:12.140 You.

04:48:12.440 I'm in favor of patriarchy.

04:48:13.400 In favor of patriarchy.

04:48:15.080 That means, like, inequality or no inequality?

04:48:17.100 Like, a male-led society.

04:48:21.600 Patriarchy means of the father.

04:48:23.380 It means that the systems are led by and men are in charge of systems.

04:48:28.680 All systems.

04:48:29.440 The family, government, everything.

04:48:31.100 Men are in charge.

04:48:33.400 That would be patriarchy.

04:48:34.480 Yeah.

04:48:35.060 I do think that, yeah.

04:48:36.320 Just because I think, yeah.

04:48:39.380 Okay.

04:48:40.100 Scratching my head.

04:48:40.660 Yeah.

04:48:41.380 Yeah.

04:48:41.740 Yeah, I'm not opposed to the future of the head.

04:48:45.620 Okay.

04:48:46.060 Stop lying.

04:48:46.560 So if men tomorrow say that they don't want women to vote, do you think you would be for

04:48:53.100 that, right?

04:48:53.800 Okay.

04:48:54.820 My husband doesn't let me vote anyway.

04:48:56.460 Like, well, I mean, he should, he should double his vote.

04:49:01.860 Yeah.

04:49:02.180 Well, if, uh, if I do vote, then it would be a double for his vote, but yeah, he doesn't

04:49:06.680 recommend that I vote.

04:49:07.940 Um, so no, I mean, but that's absurd.

04:49:10.080 He should recommend that you just vote how he votes.

04:49:12.100 But anyway, so the, the going around, going around the table, right.

04:49:17.520 Uh, the, the quick question here is if men didn't want you to vote, would you still,

04:49:22.500 would you, would you be okay with that?

04:49:23.920 Would you just be like, yeah, sure.

04:49:24.940 I'm not going to vote.

04:49:27.320 Are we going around the table?

04:49:28.960 Um, honestly, I wouldn't, honestly, I wouldn't really care.

04:49:31.900 I don't like to follow politics.

04:49:33.620 Oh, okay.

04:49:35.760 All right.

04:49:37.320 Um, I think there's so many women that are voting incorrectly that I would give up my

04:49:42.500 right to vote so that we could cancel out those women's votes a hundred percent.

04:49:48.100 Cause I think men are probably smarter at it.

04:49:51.360 Okay.

04:49:51.980 All right.

04:49:53.060 I'm not sure if we were expecting that one.

04:49:56.460 Cause we're whores.

04:49:59.260 Cause we're prostitutes.

04:50:00.520 I should say.

04:50:02.480 You said it, not me.

04:50:03.940 Uh, no, you did say it.

04:50:04.940 Well, implied it.

04:50:05.840 I didn't.

04:50:06.400 No, you guys did say it.

04:50:07.460 Cause you guys were saying like the definition of prostitution.

04:50:09.400 Oh, that was Andrew.

04:50:10.500 Wait, is Andrew frozen?

04:50:11.980 Oh, he's just like frozen.

04:50:13.600 Nope.

04:50:13.860 There's a, there's, I mean, there's no implication.

04:50:16.080 You engage in prostitution.

04:50:17.440 There's no two ways about that.

04:50:18.680 So I'm not, there's no implication.

04:50:20.320 I'm not trying to make an implication where there isn't one.

04:50:22.640 And I'm just outright saying that that's prostitution.

04:50:24.940 Rest in peace.

04:50:26.160 Uh, Nick, do we have more reacts?

04:50:28.300 We do.

04:50:29.620 Before we do that, uh, going to you, Lauren, more of your notes, you said you're Republican,

04:50:34.620 correct?

04:50:35.160 Yes.

04:50:35.980 Uh, I'll open it up to this whole panel, but I think, I don't know if you, in your notes,

04:50:39.740 you said, uh, difficult to date, maybe you didn't difficult to date as a Republican in

04:50:45.320 California.

04:50:46.860 Did you say that?

04:50:48.000 Did you say, maybe I'm no.

04:50:49.940 Okay.

04:50:50.240 Well, um, on that note though, going around the table, uh, well, I guess would you, well,

04:50:58.980 this is maybe just for you.

04:51:00.100 Would you date a Democrat slash liberal slash feminist slash vegan?

04:51:04.520 No.

04:51:04.920 I don't know why I threw vegan in there.

04:51:06.900 It fits.

04:51:08.220 Yeah, it does fit.

04:51:09.740 No, I wouldn't.

04:51:10.800 Uh, show of hands, if you would date any of the, these, nobody?

04:51:16.940 Come on.

04:51:17.260 Vegan or ignore it.

04:51:18.320 Come on.

04:51:18.860 I know you're the one.

04:51:19.240 Not the vegan.

04:51:19.880 She obviously, no meat.

04:51:21.460 Okay.

04:51:23.120 All right.

04:51:24.180 Uh, Nick, the reacts?

04:51:26.420 Yeah.

04:51:27.140 I don't know what these are.

04:51:28.360 Oh, okay.

04:51:30.060 Sound on it.

04:51:31.280 Yeah.

04:51:32.420 All right, you ready?

04:51:32.820 What are reacts like to what they...

04:51:34.140 I want...

04:51:35.560 Who is that?

04:51:37.080 Oh, they're bugs here.

04:51:38.540 Just, okay.

04:51:39.660 While he's doing that, Maddie, can you read this?

04:51:43.500 Sorry to backtrack, but can we ask around the table how many of the ladies use anti-aging

04:51:47.520 creams and the like?

04:51:48.820 If you use that, you can't say you think you'll look better in 10 years.

04:51:52.060 Anybody use anti-aging cream?

04:51:54.960 I like retinol.

04:51:55.800 Did you say yes?

04:51:57.540 I was just...

04:51:58.300 Oh.

04:51:58.520 I was just demonstrating.

04:51:59.980 Indicating that you can raise your hand for...

04:52:02.080 Does, like, moisturizer count as, like, a preventative?

04:52:04.860 No.

04:52:05.160 Maybe.

04:52:05.680 Is this just face oil?

04:52:07.600 Word.

04:52:08.720 Yeah.

04:52:09.100 Okay.

04:52:09.620 I went on a date with a guy who said he was 6'2", and apparently I'm 6'2", as well.

04:52:13.380 I mean, I thought I was 5'7", but we were the same height, so...

04:52:16.860 You lied about their height.

04:52:18.340 It's crazy, crazy.

04:52:19.320 Is that...

04:52:19.720 Is it wrong for a guy to lie about his height?

04:52:21.720 Why would you lie about your height?

04:52:22.540 I think so, because if you're planning on meeting them, like, we can tell how tall you are.

04:52:26.020 Yeah, it's not a good look.

04:52:26.320 I'm fucking 5'9".

04:52:27.380 Do you think that if you say, I'm 6'2", and then I show up on the date, you know, like,

04:52:30.980 five...

04:52:31.280 Yeah, but what's...

04:52:31.800 Same height?

04:52:32.340 It's like...

04:52:32.520 I mean...

04:52:33.260 What if I lie about my body?

04:52:34.220 What's wrong about...

04:52:35.460 You know, what's wrong about it?

04:52:37.740 Well, I wouldn't lie about my height or weight if my pictures look exactly like how I am.

04:52:41.780 But, like, if you...

04:52:41.940 Nick, pull up her thing one more time.

04:52:45.060 Yeah.

04:52:45.420 You don't need to play it.

04:52:50.400 I just want to see a photo of this woman.

04:52:53.360 I want to see a photo.

04:52:54.460 She has fake lips.

04:52:54.860 Okay, she has fake lips.

04:52:56.740 She's wearing makeup.

04:52:59.020 She's lying about her physical appearance.

04:53:02.760 What's actually...

04:53:03.760 I mean, what's...

04:53:04.060 Is she really 6'2", though?

04:53:05.300 I feel like...

04:53:06.280 No.

04:53:08.700 She's making a point about men who lie about their height on dating apps.

04:53:13.280 Yet, here she is lying about her lips.

04:53:16.660 But he can see that.

04:53:17.620 He can see that.

04:53:18.560 We can't see how tall you are on a dating app if you're lying about it.

04:53:21.820 We can see that in person, though.

04:53:23.000 So, she's accepting that.

04:53:24.220 I have fake lip radar.

04:53:26.600 Not every man has fake lip radar.

04:53:29.020 So, they might think that this woman with these big lips...

04:53:33.080 They might think it's real.

04:53:34.440 True.

04:53:34.980 You're right.

04:53:35.280 And you bamboozled...

04:53:36.600 You bamboozled the guy.

04:53:38.140 He really likes women with big lips.

04:53:40.200 But you don't actually have big lips.

04:53:41.960 You just got a bunch of bullshit pumped into them.

04:53:46.700 So...

04:53:47.060 Is the guy wearing steps in his shoes and he looks like he's 6'2"?

04:53:50.680 And then he takes them off?

04:53:51.680 That would be a more, like, accurate comparison.

04:53:54.800 Well, I mean, what...

04:53:56.200 Wouldn't that be worse?

04:53:58.340 No.

04:53:58.600 If he lied about his height on a dating app and then...

04:54:02.020 And then matched it?

04:54:03.040 And then matched it?

04:54:05.060 Except, you know, he's not always going to be able to wear those.

04:54:08.860 Right.

04:54:09.060 So, maybe he'll be honest with her later and maybe she'll...

04:54:11.980 Yeah, but do you think women would tolerate a guy who, you know, wore those...

04:54:18.600 Things, whatever they're called.

04:54:19.700 Steps.

04:54:20.040 Let's assume every time they hung out...

04:54:22.060 You know the steps in the shoes.

04:54:23.500 Every time they hung out...

04:54:24.800 Tim's?

04:54:25.560 When they went into public, he wore these, like, they gave him three inches...

04:54:29.300 Yeah.

04:54:29.500 He was three inches taller.

04:54:30.440 You feel like women wouldn't feel a certain type of way about that?

04:54:34.940 Like, well, you're not actually this tall.

04:54:38.780 Same with...

04:54:39.480 Well, I guess...

04:54:40.120 It's, like, kind of like a push-up bra, I guess.

04:54:42.500 Well, it's the same with makeup.

04:54:43.780 You're not actually that pretty.

04:54:46.100 We were showing the tweet.

04:54:47.580 Yeah, let's do the tweet.

04:54:48.620 Good call, Nick.

04:54:50.240 Well, so the idea...

04:54:51.240 Well, hang on.

04:54:52.340 I would like to dive into this just briefly.

04:54:54.400 But the idea here is this.

04:54:56.880 If a woman is not particularly pretty, at least by whatever social standards you consider

04:55:02.940 pretty to be, and so she does up her hair, she does up her makeup, and she does up all

04:55:07.760 of these things to go and meet with a man, and she presents her best foot, all of this

04:55:15.160 kind of cover for what she actually looks like, with the assumption that, but if he really

04:55:20.880 gets to know me, he's really going to like me, but I need to have a shot.

04:55:24.540 I need to at least have a chance at this, and so I'm going to make myself look the best

04:55:28.760 I possibly can, appearance-wise.

04:55:31.180 Do you think that's wrong of her to do?

04:55:34.100 It's like a deal-breaker.

04:55:35.360 Like, if you think height's a deal-breaker, probably.

04:55:37.280 If you think natural and makeup is a deal-breaker, probably.

04:55:40.080 Yeah, but hang on, hang on.

04:55:41.100 I'm just asking from the perspective of she's putting on makeup, she's doing herself up to

04:55:46.760 the hilt with the idea here of improving my physical appearance, because I think that

04:55:52.900 once this guy gets to know me, he really will like me for me, but I need to have a shot.

04:55:57.900 I think that there's a threshold.

04:56:00.400 I think that women, young women these days especially, are like, they look older.

04:56:04.960 Like, all the Botox, all the lip filler, all the crazy makeup, the fake eyebrows, the fake

04:56:10.060 eyelashes, like, the weaves or whatever, that's crazy.

04:56:12.760 You're not asking if it's okay for her to do that.

04:56:14.760 Right, no, no, I don't think that's okay.

04:56:17.380 I don't think that's okay, but also, there's guys that are really attracted to that.

04:56:21.840 I wouldn't be attracted to a guy that's attracted to that kind of girl, but they play into each

04:56:25.520 other.

04:56:25.580 Well, then I'm sure there's women who are attracted to guys who lie about their height.

04:56:28.020 I mean, saying some women do X, sure, I can grant every outlier you could ever come

04:56:34.320 up with.

04:56:34.740 I'm fine with that.

04:56:35.540 I'm just asking, because it seems that the case is that women do do themselves up to the

04:56:41.460 hilt in order to put their best foot forward, and this is completely socially acceptable.

04:56:47.400 To look like an entire other person is wrong.

04:56:50.420 To, like, do it so much so that you don't look like any semblance of yourself, I think

04:56:54.420 that's totally wrong, yeah.

04:56:56.000 I hardly ever wear makeup.

04:56:57.860 I put some makeup on for this show, but, like, I've been told I look better without it.

04:57:02.920 What do you think the alternative to that is, then?

04:57:04.700 Do you think that women shouldn't wear makeup, or, like, what do you think about that, Andrew?

04:57:08.120 No, I don't have, me personally, I don't have a problem with women wearing makeup, and I

04:57:13.680 never have.

04:57:14.760 I have a definite delineation from Brian on this, but what I'm asking about specifically

04:57:20.840 is whether or not you think that this is a deceptive practice for a man to lie about

04:57:25.740 his height.

04:57:26.340 I would say it is deceptive, but there could be motivation behind it of, but maybe if I

04:57:32.640 can put my best foot forward when I meet this person, they'll understand that, you

04:57:37.440 know, they should have given me a shot, and this was the only way I could get that shot,

04:57:41.560 and I think that women do this often, just the other direction, and so I'm just wondering

04:57:46.180 if you guys think that that is also the case.

04:57:49.500 No.

04:57:49.980 I think to outright lie about your height is just not setting the stage for a good, you

04:57:56.460 know, foundation.

04:57:57.540 But you're lying about your face in the opposition, right?

04:58:02.100 Yeah.

04:58:02.640 I still can maintain your face.

04:58:04.340 You can't maintain that height, because, well, you can't really.

04:58:07.120 You can't be like, let me see what you look like taller.

04:58:09.380 So, okay, I'm willing to grant all of that.

04:58:13.040 So, he shows up in lifts, and you don't know that they're lifts, okay?

04:58:17.800 And then later you find out he was wearing lifts.

04:58:20.520 Mm-hmm.

04:58:21.560 Is that still problematic?

04:58:23.000 Yes.

04:58:23.320 Well, then you're just doing the exact thing.

04:58:25.420 If he turned out to be, like, a really great guy, I understand what you're saying, because,

04:58:30.700 like, on a dating app, I might definitely swipe away from somebody who had, like, a height

04:58:36.520 of 5'6", or 5'7", but I have male friends that I think are really great guys that are

04:58:43.120 shorter, so I understand why somebody might lie about that, and maybe they are a really

04:58:50.840 great person, and maybe it will get them in there.

04:58:53.160 Who knows?

04:58:53.800 Well, it's just the idea, what Brian's trying to explore here is the idea of what is socially

04:58:57.840 acceptable when it comes to deception and dating.

04:59:00.480 And I would argue it's every bit as deceptive for women to put on gallons of makeup, have

04:59:05.000 fake boobs, everything else, in order to put their best foot forward.

04:59:09.040 But for some reason, if men are equally as deceptive, that's frowned upon.

04:59:13.420 And I think that that's what he's moving towards here.

04:59:15.880 I think it goes back to what Nancy said, though.

04:59:17.740 I think if you are presenting yourself in a way where you're, you know, putting your

04:59:21.700 best foot forward and kind of enhancing your natural beauty, I think that's acceptable,

04:59:26.080 but I don't, I don't, I mean...

04:59:28.340 The overkill is crazy.

04:59:28.960 Yeah, it's obviously, there's overkill for sure, and I think that's just, like, I mean,

04:59:33.100 I don't care for it, but...

04:59:34.200 But some guys like that and go for that.

04:59:36.580 That's like catfishing.

04:59:37.520 Are you willing to concede that it is deceptive?

04:59:41.600 Myself?

04:59:42.040 To wear makeup?

04:59:44.120 To some extent, sure, yeah.

04:59:45.200 No, to any extent.

04:59:47.740 Yeah.

04:59:48.900 Yeah.

04:59:50.140 Yeah.

04:59:51.360 So then, so then, isn't it really just a double standard to say this deception is okay, and

04:59:56.020 this one over here is not okay?

04:59:58.020 That's a good point.

04:59:58.680 I mean, I think it goes off of what the guy's into.

05:00:01.620 Like, if the guy's into a girl that he wants to look like that, then he's obviously into it.

05:00:08.040 But you could say that about anything, right?

05:00:09.940 Like, serial killers are okay as long as the person's into getting killed by serial killers,

05:00:14.600 right?

05:00:14.940 It's just, like, it's just a nonsense way to look at a thing.

05:00:19.200 If it's, is it deceptive across the board?

05:00:22.520 Is it deceptive to where makeup is the purpose of it to show something which is not actually

05:00:27.940 true?

05:00:28.320 I would argue that it is.

05:00:29.820 I'm not even saying there's a problem with doing it.

05:00:31.880 I'm just arguing that it is to show something which is not actually true.

05:00:36.860 Yeah, I can see that.

05:00:37.660 Yeah, so, I mean, if that's the case, then it's, wouldn't it just be, it would just be

05:00:43.340 deceptive both ways, wouldn't it?

05:00:44.980 Yeah.

05:00:45.380 Ultimately.

05:00:46.420 Yeah.

05:00:46.760 I think that deception is more acceptable on one side than the other.

05:00:50.340 I mean, what guy doesn't think...

05:00:51.720 And that's where, that's where I wanted to get, finally.

05:00:53.980 But what guy doesn't think that's what a woman actually looks like?

05:00:57.160 The other deception is not.

05:01:01.820 Because it's okay, it's okayed by the other party.

05:01:06.040 Why, though?

05:01:07.160 Yeah, but it, but it, but it, but it's not really...

05:01:09.320 The guy is saying, I'm okay, and maybe some guys might want, I, like, prefer a natural look,

05:01:14.380 but, you know, some guys might want this, like, Kardashian look or whatever the thing

05:01:19.320 is that's popular.

05:01:20.020 Yeah, but they don't, but they don't know what's underneath.

05:01:21.640 Or whatever that is.

05:01:22.500 Right?

05:01:22.760 They don't know what's underneath.

05:01:23.620 Right, I think that's totally deceptive, but...

05:01:25.680 Okay, if that's the case, then let's explore and see if that is actually the case.

05:01:29.040 But just putting, like, one...

05:01:29.800 If a man says he's six foot two, and he shows up, and he has on height-enhancing gear, lifts

05:01:37.520 of some kind, and you can't detect them.

05:01:40.300 But later, you find out, okay, he was wearing lifts, okay, and that's why he was six foot two.

05:01:47.580 You would consider that to be highly deceptive, right?

05:01:50.500 Yeah, and I would relate, the thing that would make more sense to relate is a woman lying

05:01:54.740 about her weight, and, like, showing up for a date 20 or 30 pounds heavier than she's said.

05:01:58.920 I don't think a coat of mascara and some lip gloss is on the same level of deception.

05:02:04.700 True.

05:02:04.900 Yeah, but why not?

05:02:05.960 I don't really understand the delineation point here.

05:02:08.180 Because what person...

05:02:08.940 Because the idea seems to come down to, you just say, but some men could prefer that.

05:02:14.100 But the truth is, is that women are covering up what they actually look like.

05:02:17.860 How would the man know if he prefers her without makeup if he's never actually seen her without it?

05:02:22.760 I think that some guys just like a fake look in general.

05:02:29.620 They don't maybe want to even see what she looks like.

05:02:31.500 And some guys prefer a really natural look, and then the over-the-top is unattractive to them.

05:02:35.000 So you think he just wants to date the chick for the rest of his life with her just always having a suit of makeup on

05:02:40.520 so he doesn't have to see what she looks like?

05:02:41.700 Nowadays, culture, unfortunately, I think that feeds into each other.

05:02:47.220 That culture feeds into the guy and the girl both like that.

05:02:52.380 So you think that men genuinely would just prefer to just never see their women's actual face?

05:02:58.040 Some, not the men that I'm attracted to.

05:02:59.500 But yes, it appears that way.

05:03:02.640 It appears that way based off of media.

05:03:04.980 It does not appear that way.

05:03:06.820 And I think it does.

05:03:08.120 And there's no way to make the comparison anyway.

05:03:12.100 So even if I were to grant that, well, men would still prefer that you hide your hideous face,

05:03:18.020 let's say in this instance, and only makeup is what's stopping it from being hideous.

05:03:22.240 Because they still wouldn't have a frame of reference to know what it actually looked like.

05:03:27.560 So it would still be a deception either way.

05:03:29.700 How would it not be a deception?

05:03:34.120 I think that anybody who, any guy who like thinks a girl who clearly has makeup on naturally looks like that

05:03:43.560 might not be the smartest tool in the shed, you know?

05:03:47.440 Like, I don't know.

05:03:48.460 I think he knows she's wearing makeup.

05:03:52.240 Yeah, but the frame of reference for how much difference you would look absent the makeup is not there.

05:03:57.380 Right, and so that's why there's a scale.

05:04:00.080 So if you look like an...

05:04:01.500 There's a scale of deception?

05:04:02.700 Yeah, if you look like a completely different person is one thing.

05:04:06.400 And I think that's like, you know, that would be really unfortunate.

05:04:10.320 Like, I would not want to be a guy who woke up next to a girl and was like, wow, who the hell are you?

05:04:14.440 I didn't take you home.

05:04:15.260 Neither would I.

05:04:15.840 That would suck, right?

05:04:16.660 That's what I'm saying is that they both seem to just be the same deception, just played on the opposite end.

05:04:21.720 To still know who the person is and recognize who their face is, and like, I think that's not deceptive.

05:04:28.020 I think that's like putting on a dress that accentuates your features.

05:04:31.600 Like, I don't...

05:04:33.020 So deceptive?

05:04:34.420 No, I mean, it's like, doesn't a man want to shave and put on a nice suit or do his hair in a certain way, whatever, you know?

05:04:41.220 But you're making my point for me, is that I think that deception played is only men being punished for the deception, even if they're deceiving.

05:04:50.640 No, but you're only using one example with the heights.

05:04:52.040 And your social standard here is that women should not be punished for the deception, only men.

05:04:56.540 That's what the point is.

05:04:57.460 No, but you're...

05:04:58.100 I'm not saying both aren't deceiving each other.

05:04:59.900 But you're only using...

05:05:00.460 I'm just saying, why is one more socially acceptable than the other?

05:05:02.800 You're only using the example of height, and I think the thing that is a better comparison for height would be women just lying about their weight.

05:05:09.300 And I do think that's equally as wrong as lying about your height.

05:05:11.360 Yeah, it's being great, but we're not talking about that.

05:05:13.700 We're talking about makeup itself, and while I can grant that you even made a better comparison with deception,

05:05:20.060 I'm still asking about the makeup comparison here, because that does seem to be deception.

05:05:24.500 I think makeup and haircuts are, like, at the same valley of deception.

05:05:28.440 Because, like, a haircut can make a guy look really good, and obviously, if they go out with their hair, it's like...

05:05:33.700 Or a balding guy wearing a hat.

05:05:36.360 Well, they're all the same, like, principle, I think.

05:05:39.960 Still deceptive.

05:05:41.160 Yeah, they're all a form of deception.

05:05:43.980 I guess you...

05:05:45.100 I don't know if you could argue if one's worse than the other, but they're all, like...

05:05:48.820 Deceptive.

05:05:49.440 Yeah, it's the same principle.

05:05:51.540 So I guess my ultimate point here, so we don't belabor it forever, is just to say that...

05:05:56.760 I think that both sides deceive each other when it comes to dating.

05:06:00.820 By trying to put their best foot forward, I think that there's many examples that you've even cited here yourself, right?

05:06:06.560 Perhaps they wear a hat to cover up the fact that they're balding, or perhaps they wear a dress on the other end to accentuate their features,

05:06:13.540 or perhaps they try to hide weight, and perhaps the other one tries to add height.

05:06:17.800 The only distinction here that I see is that it seems to be socially acceptable for women to do this, but not for men to do this.

05:06:25.360 And I guess that's where we're actually diving and driving this point towards.

05:06:29.900 And I don't think it's acceptable for women to lie about their weight, specifically.

05:06:34.060 I think they do it all the time.

05:06:35.620 I don't think it's acceptable.

05:06:37.380 Oh, okay.

05:06:37.860 How much do you weigh?

05:06:39.240 I weigh 130.

05:06:43.040 Exactly?

05:06:44.040 I was 129.5 last time, so I'm just assuming that I'm 130 right now, because it's the end of the day.

05:06:49.300 Okay, well, then the gal next to you, how much do you weigh?

05:06:53.140 Me, left or right?

05:06:54.200 No, no, no, to your, I think it would be to your right.

05:06:59.680 190, 188 the last time I weighed myself.

05:07:03.520 Next, how much do you weigh?

05:07:05.720 132.7.

05:07:07.460 Next.

05:07:09.320 158.

05:07:10.580 I gained weight.

05:07:14.760 I haven't weighed myself in a while, like 120.

05:07:20.400 Okay.

05:07:20.800 Okay.

05:07:24.200 How much do you weigh?

05:07:28.060 Do you have a scale in there, Brian?

05:07:30.540 Huh?

05:07:31.100 I do not have a scale.

05:07:33.420 We need to get a scale.

05:07:34.720 I will get one.

05:07:36.440 I will definitely get one.

05:07:37.680 We should do that.

05:07:38.860 We should.

05:07:39.520 We should do that.

05:07:41.140 Yeah.

05:07:41.380 So weight's like a big thing.

05:07:42.460 I feel like if you lie about your weight, it's like, damn, if I see you in person, it's like,

05:07:45.240 yeah, it's the same thing about the line about your height.

05:07:48.800 True, for sure.

05:07:50.200 Yeah.

05:07:50.720 Like, what?

05:07:51.260 Okay.

05:07:51.700 Yes.

05:07:52.180 100% agree.

05:07:53.080 Makeup is like, okay, you can wear makeup one day and not wear makeup another day.

05:07:56.860 But yeah, I mean, like height, you can't really change.

05:07:59.540 Weight, makeup, you can.

05:08:00.820 But I mean.

05:08:02.380 I feel like you have to be really good at makeup, though, to change how you really look.

05:08:05.620 No, for real.

05:08:06.080 I mean, actually.

05:08:07.260 Not really.

05:08:07.920 I don't know.

05:08:09.180 Girls will be looking crazy.

05:08:09.740 Maybe guys lie to me, but they tell me I look the same with them without makeup.

05:08:13.460 So maybe they're lying to me.

05:08:15.560 But you look the same.

05:08:16.260 I feel like you look the same.

05:08:17.640 Maybe they're lying to me.

05:08:18.800 Maybe they're just lying to me.

05:08:19.980 I don't know.

05:08:21.020 Maybe you're just delusional.

05:08:21.880 Why would you, if it didn't improve or change how you looked, why would you wear it to begin with?

05:08:28.080 Some people like it.

05:08:29.280 Like, it's your form of heart.

05:08:31.000 So I'm just going to waste a bunch of money and waste a bunch of time putting on something that doesn't change how I look at all.

05:08:38.020 I prefer to not wear makeup, to be honest with you.

05:08:40.420 Right.

05:08:40.700 But women would not wear makeup if it didn't change their appearance for the better.

05:08:46.120 Right.

05:08:46.680 Right.

05:08:47.420 Yeah.

05:08:47.980 So if we can agree that it changes your appearance for the better, that's not how you actually look.

05:08:52.120 It is deceptive.

05:08:53.080 I mean, some women don't do a very good job, and I think it makes them look worse, arguably.

05:08:58.000 Sure.

05:08:58.280 That's a fair point to me.

05:08:59.820 Like, really bad.

05:09:01.000 That's a fair point to make, but I think most...

05:09:03.640 They think that they're enhancing it, the person applying it.

05:09:07.220 That's the exception to the rule, though.

05:09:08.740 I would say most women will put on makeup, and it will tend to improve their physical appearance.

05:09:16.620 It's terrible.

05:09:17.720 Yeah.

05:09:18.620 Let's see.

05:09:19.260 Let's get back into more notes.

05:09:21.500 Do you want to finish the X?

05:09:22.760 Let me get through the notes first.

05:09:25.880 Okay.

05:09:26.500 We have...

05:09:28.100 Let's go to Sarah.

05:09:31.900 Finding out the guy I was hooking up with four years ago was in a relationship with Summer

05:09:38.200 Ray the whole time?

05:09:39.720 Yeah.

05:09:40.780 The, like, influencer chick or whatever?

05:09:43.280 Yeah.

05:09:43.640 Well, we hooked up for a little bit, and then a week later...

05:09:48.140 Was it Jake Paul?

05:09:49.260 No.

05:09:49.900 Oh, okay.

05:09:51.380 He was a director, like, music video director.

05:09:54.640 The lyrical lemonade?

05:09:56.200 Yeah.

05:09:56.760 Oh, that's him?

05:09:57.460 I was totally guessing that.

05:09:59.500 Yeah.

05:10:00.740 Yeah, I...

05:10:01.700 Cole Bennett.

05:10:02.020 Cole Bennett.

05:10:02.740 Is that his name?

05:10:03.700 Yeah.

05:10:03.920 He posted with Summer Ray, like, a week after I saw him.

05:10:10.460 Like, I was like, oh, okay.

05:10:12.760 And then, yeah.

05:10:14.380 Okay.

05:10:14.960 Stopped talking to him.

05:10:16.160 Wait, so how long were you dating him?

05:10:17.820 We weren't dating.

05:10:18.700 We were just...

05:10:19.920 Oh.

05:10:20.340 Yeah.

05:10:21.020 But he was in a monogamous relationship with Summer Ray while...

05:10:25.400 Yeah.

05:10:26.900 Yeah.

05:10:28.420 Was it, like, a public thing?

05:10:30.180 Like, how did you not know?

05:10:31.580 They posted publicly, like, a week.

05:10:33.300 Oh.

05:10:33.860 After I saw him, yeah.

05:10:35.780 So, I don't know if they were, like, dating for, like, a month prior, like, two months prior

05:10:40.100 and just didn't really, like, publicly announce it.

05:10:42.440 But he's notorious for doing that, apparently.

05:10:45.180 Huh.

05:10:45.520 Just within L.A.

05:10:46.120 Did he just, like, ghost you after?

05:10:47.800 I stopped talking to him.

05:10:48.900 Oh, okay.

05:10:49.280 Yeah.

05:10:50.600 If he...

05:10:51.780 Oh, wait.

05:10:52.260 You're married.

05:10:52.800 I'm married.

05:10:53.360 Yeah, you're married.

05:10:54.420 But the answer is no.

05:10:55.560 He did DM me...

05:10:57.800 Oh, what was this?

05:10:58.940 Like, January of this year?

05:11:00.640 I did not respond.

05:11:01.360 I blocked him, so...

05:11:02.640 Uh, just curious about your tattoos really quick.

05:11:04.820 I noticed you have some Pokemon tattoos.

05:11:06.720 What, uh...

05:11:07.680 Can you...

05:11:09.060 There's...

05:11:10.340 Is that Kirby?

05:11:11.600 No, that's Kirby.

05:11:12.300 Yeah, it's Kirby, Eevee, Mew, and then a Keyblade.

05:11:16.320 Kingdom Hearts.

05:11:17.200 Okay.

05:11:17.620 That's cool.

05:11:18.020 Uh, let's see.

05:11:20.040 And then...

05:11:21.480 We...

05:11:22.860 I think we already kind of talked all about the whole celibate until marriage, uh, thing.

05:11:30.260 You don't do casual hookups, but you used to.

05:11:33.880 Used to.

05:11:34.600 Used to.

05:11:36.040 Damn, that's a tough sell.

05:11:37.400 You were, like, in the middle of a relationship with the dude.

05:11:40.500 And then you're like, yeah, by the way, I don't want to fuck you anymore.

05:11:43.300 Well, it was kind of like a slow-burner-long conversation.

05:11:48.080 Um, took a while for me to actually commit to being celibate.

05:11:52.000 Um, but, yeah.

05:11:53.660 Okay.

05:11:54.020 Yeah, I get it.

05:11:55.300 I get why he would be upset if, you know...

05:11:57.900 I get it.

05:11:59.320 Mm-hmm.

05:12:00.460 All right.

05:12:01.380 Um, any other crazy dating...

05:12:04.440 Any other celebs you hooked up with and they were fucking other people?

05:12:08.380 No, I did sleep with one other celebrity, but...

05:12:12.380 Who's that?

05:12:13.120 Uh, Ski Mask.

05:12:14.300 Who?

05:12:14.580 Slump God.

05:12:15.280 Some rapper.

05:12:15.980 Who the fuck is that guy?

05:12:17.380 I have no idea who that is.

05:12:18.760 He's Cole Bennett's friend.

05:12:20.060 He's who?

05:12:20.700 Cole's friend.

05:12:21.480 So you fucked Cole and his best friend.

05:12:23.920 Yeah, like a year apart.

05:12:26.140 A year apart.

05:12:27.200 Yeah.

05:12:27.760 Nice.

05:12:28.460 Hmm, which one first?

05:12:29.700 Ski.

05:12:30.640 In 2019.

05:12:31.180 And then Cole.

05:12:32.200 Yeah.

05:12:32.740 You go...

05:12:33.200 You get the rapper, then you get the music video guy.

05:12:35.900 Yeah.

05:12:36.200 Uh, yeah, it was...

05:12:38.180 Yeah.

05:12:39.600 I was in L.A. a lot.

05:12:40.600 How did you get in touch with them?

05:12:43.360 Well, I...

05:12:44.200 Slide into the DMs or...

05:12:46.200 Yeah, I slid into Ski's DMs.

05:12:48.980 Oh.

05:12:49.220 This was like 2019.

05:12:50.840 I DM'd him.

05:12:52.180 He was on tour with Juice WRLD at the time, so he invited me.

05:12:56.140 And then we had an on and off thing for like a year and then stopped talking.

05:13:01.580 I was in L.A.

05:13:02.340 I got invited to some BET after party and then Cole was there.

05:13:06.740 That's how him and I started talking.

05:13:08.100 Yeah.

05:13:08.680 Okay.

05:13:09.300 Yeah.

05:13:09.880 All right.

05:13:10.240 Going to Angelina.

05:13:11.280 I should have gotten to some of these a little earlier, but...

05:13:14.200 So you're...

05:13:15.440 You say you're 38.

05:13:16.480 Three kids from the same man.

05:13:18.560 Huh?

05:13:19.060 My name's Nancy.

05:13:21.040 On Instagram, it's...

05:13:22.200 Angelina.

05:13:22.560 Not Angelina.

05:13:24.420 It says not Angelina.

05:13:25.840 Oh, okay.

05:13:26.200 It's pretty private.

05:13:27.240 All right.

05:13:27.640 You said you have three kids from the same man.

05:13:31.240 Yes.

05:13:31.340 You stripped.

05:13:32.900 You did Girl on Girl.

05:13:34.760 Oh, hold on a second.

05:13:36.080 What?

05:13:37.100 Let's just...

05:13:39.500 I don't...

05:13:40.200 Because we're in the pre-show notes.

05:13:41.220 I know, but can we just be conscientious of like wording right here for certain reasons?

05:13:49.640 You're concerned...

05:13:51.040 Are you concerned that your kids are going to hear this?

05:13:53.380 Yeah.

05:13:53.780 I mean, I told my daughters that I was going on the podcast and they're older, but I'm

05:13:57.460 going to really...

05:13:59.720 Like, my son likes this podcast because he's very into tradition.

05:14:05.080 How's your son?

05:14:06.060 He's in sixth grade.

05:14:07.340 Wait.

05:14:07.680 He shouldn't...

05:14:08.360 I know.

05:14:09.400 Andrew Tate and you guys...

05:14:10.940 He shouldn't be dating.

05:14:11.480 He shouldn't be dating.

05:14:12.620 He's not dating.

05:14:13.400 In fact, he just told me his first week in middle school, he's like, Mom, somebody has

05:14:17.020 a crush on me.

05:14:18.480 And I was like, okay.

05:14:20.540 And he said, but it's a little too early for me and I'm not interested.

05:14:23.180 And he's like, and I'm not interested.

05:14:25.020 And it's too early for me.

05:14:26.720 And it's different for boys and girls too, so...

05:14:28.940 Come to think of it, I was listening to Loveline when I was like in junior high school.

05:14:33.740 Oh, you know what?

05:14:34.160 I was too.

05:14:35.040 Yeah.

05:14:36.060 Adam Carolla.

05:14:36.940 Yeah.

05:14:37.220 Okay.

05:14:37.800 I guess it's not that.

05:14:38.540 You know what I mean?

05:14:38.760 So let's just...

05:14:39.460 Hold on a second.

05:14:40.040 Is this word?

05:14:40.920 I feel like this show is probably more tame...

05:14:43.860 Your son should not be watching this.

05:14:45.380 ...than Loveline.

05:14:47.200 I think it's more tame than Loveline.

05:14:48.880 What's Loveline?

05:14:49.580 It's like a K-Rock thing.

05:14:50.400 It was a radio show that people would call in.

05:14:53.820 Let's not talk about all of the notes that I said.

05:14:57.000 What I will say...

05:14:58.060 What I will...

05:14:58.700 Sent in the notes.

05:14:59.040 I know, I know, I know.

05:14:59.860 And I forgot to say that I mentioned...

05:15:01.580 Invite me on the show and I'll talk about this.

05:15:03.560 Right.

05:15:03.580 But hold on a second.

05:15:04.240 I will say that my kid's dad...

05:15:09.300 So going back to wanting to be a virgin for your partner.

05:15:13.780 I agree with that.

05:15:15.260 In a perfect society.

05:15:16.220 Wait, that's not even the topic.

05:15:17.220 What are you talking about?

05:15:18.020 It's going to tie into it.

05:15:19.740 Okay.

05:15:20.360 All right.

05:15:20.720 So I was 18 when I met my kid's dad and he was 25, I think.

05:15:27.040 He lost his job.

05:15:28.640 He was a mason.

05:15:29.600 And then pressured me into stuff that was going to support us.

05:15:39.040 And I was young.

05:15:45.900 And that's what he said to do.

05:15:49.060 And then I got pregnant.

05:15:50.940 So it was a very short period of time.

05:15:52.240 Two years.

05:15:53.080 Then I got pregnant.

05:15:54.040 And I said, like, look, like, you got to, like, get a job, man.

05:15:58.040 And he did.

05:15:58.980 And, yeah.

05:16:01.200 But this was, you know, it was part of my past that I will say that I'm not proud of it.

05:16:10.600 But I'm also, you know, and I'm also not open about it.

05:16:16.760 So it's just, it's the point of that is that, like, you can sometimes do, be in these situations and come out having, you know, different values.

05:16:29.040 Those weren't my values.

05:16:30.220 I didn't like that.

05:16:31.360 You know what I mean?

05:16:32.080 I felt pressured into doing it from a man that I loved that I thought I was going to be with forever.

05:16:37.300 And I was with for 12 years.

05:16:38.580 I mean, you do include that in the notes.

05:16:45.020 You say.

05:16:45.620 I know.

05:16:45.680 Okay.

05:16:46.020 Can you let me.

05:16:46.900 Can you stop interrupting?

05:16:47.880 No, because I'm just.

05:16:48.760 You can stop.

05:16:49.740 Okay.

05:16:50.020 So you said at the insistence of your kids' father.

05:16:53.580 Mm-hmm.

05:16:53.860 Okay.

05:16:54.040 That's all I was going to say.

05:16:55.960 Yeah.

05:16:58.140 Okay.

05:17:03.680 Yeah.

05:17:04.140 That's pretty much it.

05:17:04.980 I mean.

05:17:05.380 Yeah.

05:17:05.740 Thank you.

05:17:06.360 Well, I mean, I don't, I don't really understand it, though.

05:17:10.780 I mean, they're going to know all this shit sooner or later.

05:17:12.720 Yeah.

05:17:13.220 And it's just, you know, I have been open with my daughters about stuff now that they're older,

05:17:17.960 but it's not for everyone yet.

05:17:24.260 All right.

05:17:27.360 So.

05:17:28.940 And also another thing that I said as well.

05:17:31.840 I'm going to say.

05:17:33.900 You want to preemptively.

05:17:35.200 Okay.

05:17:35.680 Well, I just thought about some of this stuff.

05:17:37.420 Hillary Epstein donated $200, comes on the podcast to discuss dating, is too ashamed

05:17:42.540 to discuss it because of her kids.

05:17:45.180 Maybe that's a sign for all youth girls and sex workers.

05:17:48.980 That is a good point.

05:17:49.960 Yeah.

05:17:50.100 I don't, I don't have OnlyFans.

05:17:51.700 And I do think that's a good point.

05:17:52.920 Like, when I think about you girls, like, that say you want kids, you guys all say you

05:17:57.880 want kids and stuff like that.

05:17:59.020 Like, you have to think about those things, you know?

05:18:02.300 Like, this was a different time when I was 18.

05:18:05.160 Like, there wasn't OnlyFans.

05:18:06.420 There wasn't, like, it was just different.

05:18:09.080 You know, there's certain magazines that were out that aren't in existence anymore.

05:18:14.940 But, you know, like, it was just a different level of things.

05:18:18.160 So, it wasn't $5.99 for, like, selling as part of your soul, I feel like.

05:18:24.420 Still sex work.

05:18:26.120 Wait, is mine sex work, even though it's just dates?

05:18:28.740 It's.

05:18:29.780 Yeah.

05:18:31.020 Yeah, right?

05:18:31.680 Because at the end of the day, they're only going on dates with me because they want to.

05:18:36.640 I don't know.

05:18:38.640 I don't know.

05:18:39.940 No, right?

05:18:40.880 So, what.

05:18:41.800 You don't have to find it as sex work.

05:18:43.080 What are the, what are the other things you want to preemptively tell me to not talk

05:18:47.040 about?

05:18:47.260 Um, I'm okay with the age gap thing.

05:18:51.920 And we can talk about that.

05:18:55.000 I mean, I'm not, I try to be, uh, reasonable with people, but.

05:18:59.840 We can talk about the age gap.

05:19:00.800 It's just like, here, invite me on your show and here's what I, like, you're like, it's

05:19:07.440 like a fraudulent inducement.

05:19:08.840 Yeah, I was, I wasn't planning on.

05:19:11.100 No, but it's like, somebody's like, let me on the show, I'll talk about XYZ, I invite

05:19:14.460 you on the show.

05:19:14.940 No, I understand.

05:19:15.380 And then you refuse to talk about XYZ.

05:19:17.320 It's kind of like, whatever.

05:19:19.420 It's okay.

05:19:19.940 No, I just thought it was going to be framed a little bit differently.

05:19:23.000 And I also thought we'd talk about some other topics like politically.

05:19:25.980 You said you were also liberal until your mid 20s, a Democrat until 2019, ex-vegan, and

05:19:31.480 now you're a hardcore conservative Trump supporter.

05:19:33.980 Although I do still have some sexually liberal viewpoints still personally, but I'm very against

05:19:39.960 a certain agenda, which I'm not going to name.

05:19:42.500 I've been broken up from the father of my kids for eight years.

05:19:47.020 Yeah.

05:19:47.280 Only date guys from Texas talked about that because California guys are mostly trash.

05:19:53.460 Going to the, okay, used to be liberal when you were young, Democrat until 2019, ex-vegan,

05:19:59.160 now hardcore conservative Trump supporter.

05:20:01.100 But you have some sexually liberal viewpoints still.

05:20:05.800 What are those?

05:20:06.480 Yeah.

05:20:07.100 Well, so I would say that I think it's like threesomes, for instance.

05:20:15.520 I think that those are acceptable and really dependent on the discussion that you have with

05:20:22.140 your partner.

05:20:22.560 And like boy, boy, girl, threesome?

05:20:27.640 I would, in a relationship with a man, which is the only kind of relationship I'm in, I'm

05:20:32.340 open to a girl, girl, guy.

05:20:36.360 Okay.

05:20:41.440 You don't want the boy to know that you strip, but you're okay with him knowing that you would

05:20:48.420 be willing to engage in a threesome.

05:20:50.240 I just want to make sure I got that correct.

05:20:51.800 Well, thanks for putting the words out there like that.

05:20:55.480 Yeah.

05:20:55.800 I feel like I didn't, I've watched some of this show and I thought we might be talking

05:21:01.020 about more like political stuff.

05:21:02.380 So I was kind of, you know.

05:21:04.020 Wait, it's a TV.

05:21:05.220 I know it is, but you do talk about it a lot.

05:21:06.980 Yes, we do talk about political stuff.

05:21:09.020 And I was really looking forward to that.

05:21:09.540 But the political stuff, while it comes up, tends to be secondary to the dating conversations.

05:21:15.120 I'll just point that out.

05:21:16.120 So I guess I'm just trying to say that you can, you know, you can have had a certain

05:21:21.940 past and then you could change it.

05:21:24.040 I mean, truthfully, I don't really, if you want to have threesomes, I don't really have

05:21:28.420 any objections there.

05:21:29.600 Yeah.

05:21:29.760 But I think that some people are against that that are more conservative.

05:21:33.160 Did you, you said.

05:21:34.300 I'm against that 100%.

05:21:35.980 Yeah.

05:21:36.340 Same.

05:21:36.760 I don't want to get bogged down.

05:21:38.220 I really don't understand at all how the idea that.

05:21:43.000 Hey, can you guys stop talking over there?

05:21:44.760 That your past could be brought up here when it comes to these decisions, when it, when

05:21:50.800 it really, as it relates to dating, somehow that's taboo, but there's this idea that you

05:21:57.800 would be open to having a three-way is not taboo.

05:22:01.660 I, I, I really don't understand that at all.

05:22:04.120 Well, because I, like I said, I, I'm not proud of and regret the past decisions.

05:22:11.380 This is something that I'm, why the fuck would you be not proud of any of the, if you're

05:22:15.280 willing to have a three-way, what the hell, who gives a shit about whatever the, these

05:22:19.740 other like tangential things are, who cares?

05:22:24.660 Like, why would that even be a big deal?

05:22:26.580 If you're, if you're like, if you're willing to share your man, let him fuck other women

05:22:30.380 in front of you.

05:22:31.540 Why in the world would whatever your past is be in any way problematic?

05:22:36.280 I don't, I don't even understand that.

05:22:38.040 Like, you're willing to watch him suck another dude off in front of you, but past, the past,

05:22:46.160 that's a little too problematic.

05:22:48.500 I really do need to understand this.

05:22:52.400 That why I'm okay with threesomes and not okay with my past?

05:22:59.060 I assume, I assume, I will, yeah, I assume that you say, okay, well, this former thing

05:23:03.660 I did, I felt some shame about.

05:23:05.280 That's why you don't like it, right?

05:23:07.200 But currently you're willing to sit in the cuck chair while your husband does another check.

05:23:11.000 Is that correct?

05:23:12.040 I don't think that that scenario would turn out that way, but I just.

05:23:16.100 Which way, how would this scenario turn out?

05:23:18.460 I wouldn't be sitting in a chair.

05:23:21.120 Yeah, right.

05:23:21.700 No, no, no.

05:23:22.140 You'd be participating, right?

05:23:23.480 She's like, strogan.

05:23:23.980 But if you were participating and you were watching, you would be watching your husband

05:23:31.200 bang another chick or your significant other bang another chick in front of you, right?

05:23:36.420 I mean, is that the case?

05:23:37.560 So I think that men are designed biologically to want to be with lots of women.

05:23:43.720 I think that's just designed that way biologically with their DNA in a hope to spread their seed

05:23:51.120 more, to replicate their DNA, right?

05:23:52.880 I mean, I'll just grant all of this.

05:23:54.840 I'll just grant every bit of it.

05:23:56.520 For me as a girl, I wouldn't, I don't think it's okay to be with another man, but I think

05:24:02.160 that sometimes if you can open that up in your relationship, it can be really fulfilling

05:24:09.620 and prevent cheating sometimes as well.

05:24:13.460 Yeah, okay.

05:24:14.040 I mean, I'm just going to kind of grant all of the idea that men want to sleep with multiple

05:24:20.000 women in this and that.

05:24:20.820 I have no problem just granting all of this.

05:24:23.320 What I do have a problem granting is what in the world could you possibly look at in

05:24:27.660 your past that you would consider to be shameful?

05:24:30.020 If you're okay sharing your husband or significant other with another woman, how is that not kind

05:24:36.240 of the ultimate form of shame?

05:24:37.740 Because that's a private thing that you've both agreed upon in your relationship.

05:24:47.280 Yeah, but I mean, that's not any less shameful.

05:24:49.600 There's cucks who agree to allow their wife to get banged by other dudes.

05:24:53.580 That doesn't make it less shameful because it's private.

05:24:55.800 I think a man letting his wife be touched by another man is very different than a girl

05:25:04.920 having, a wife having a threesome with her.

05:25:08.340 Oh, I would love to hear what the delineation is.

05:25:13.500 Sorry.

05:25:13.940 It's kind of mind-blowing that you can't determine, like you don't see a difference with the two.

05:25:20.160 No, that's not an argument.

05:25:21.480 Just saying, oh, I'm incredulous about your incredulity is not an argument.

05:25:26.360 I'd actually like to know what is the distinction between you being the cuck and him being the cuck?

05:25:32.820 What is the distinction?

05:25:33.640 If he's plowing another chick and you're allowing him to do it, how can I ever gauge that you are a person who has self-respect?

05:25:40.820 If I would never consider a man who would allow the shame the other way, I'd never give him any form of self-respect.

05:25:46.040 Isn't a cuck, like by definition, a guy who like gets off on watching his wife be with another man?

05:25:52.460 Yeah, wouldn't this be the exact same thing in reverse?

05:25:55.120 No, I'm not saying that it's getting, like, I'm not watching.

05:25:58.980 First of all, I'm participating.

05:26:00.020 And second of all, it is something that's fulfilling him.

05:26:03.680 Not fulfilling me.

05:26:04.560 Absolutely.

05:26:05.300 So if a man is participating while his wife is getting banged, then he's not a cuck?

05:26:14.420 I don't really have experience in that scenario.

05:26:18.140 So that's just not something I would be into.

05:26:20.380 If a man is participating in his wife getting banged and he's participating in that, he's not a cuck now?

05:26:30.040 Or he is still a cuck?

05:26:32.160 I think it's probably different than being a cuck, maybe.

05:26:35.320 But it's still not something I would be okay with.

05:26:38.820 How is that different?

05:26:41.700 A cuck is allowing somebody else to plow your chick.

05:26:44.740 That's what a cuck is.

05:26:46.160 Okay.

05:26:46.400 So if you allow, on purpose to allow, dude, to plow your chick, you're a cuck, how would this not be just, like, basically reverse cuckism?

05:26:55.500 Right?

05:26:55.640 Well, I just think that in my scenario of two girls and a guy, with it being, like, your significant other, that for me, like, I really enjoy fulfilling.

05:27:09.300 It's fulfilling to me to, like, make my man happy.

05:27:12.200 And if that's something that makes him happy.

05:27:14.560 If he said to me it would really make me happy to have another dude, I would say no.

05:27:18.380 My paladins donated $100.02.

05:27:22.120 My past bad decisions are shameful and be hidden from society.

05:27:26.120 My future bad decisions are open for discussion.

05:27:29.180 You've got the mental maturity of a toddler.

05:27:31.660 Stove hot.

05:27:32.680 Maybe I shouldn't touch it again.

05:27:34.440 Thank you, little paladins.

05:27:35.960 Okay, thank you.

05:27:36.780 Appreciate it.

05:27:37.420 Good to see you in the chat, man.

05:27:40.040 I mean, honestly, I was more interested if there were, you said you still have some sexually liberal viewpoints.

05:27:46.960 Yeah, I thought that was it.

05:27:47.740 Is it just the threesomes?

05:27:48.220 Is that it?

05:27:49.600 Yeah.

05:27:51.100 Oh, okay.

05:27:52.380 I thought there was more.

05:27:54.100 Do you want to, Andrew, do you have more on this?

05:27:56.120 That's it.

05:27:56.620 Yeah, I'm still struggling here with the delineation point.

05:28:04.960 Why is there an actual difference if your husband wanted to watch you get banged by another dude?

05:28:12.260 Why would that be different, really, than you allowing him to bang another chick?

05:28:16.700 I don't really understand what the distinction here is.

05:28:19.040 I mean, I think that there's not really societies.

05:28:22.200 There are societies where a man has had multiple wives.

05:28:25.160 There's multiple societies around the world and in history where that is acceptable, right?

05:28:29.220 But you don't ever see it the other way around.

05:28:30.880 So I guess it just is that way for a reason.

05:28:33.520 Yeah, that's an appeal to history, right?

05:28:34.640 It's fallacious argumentation on its face.

05:28:36.400 You're just appealing to how things used to be.

05:28:38.000 You're not telling us why they should be that way now.

05:28:39.980 No, I'm saying they are that way because that's just the way that it is.

05:28:44.140 It's fallen in line that way, and I think they're different.

05:28:46.280 Oh, it is what it is?

05:28:47.320 No, they're obviously different.

05:28:48.860 Listen, it doesn't tell me anything to say to me.

05:28:52.680 So let me give you some more history.

05:28:54.180 Here's some great history as well.

05:28:56.480 The West has stayed monogamous under some form of Catholicism for almost time immemorial.

05:29:04.280 Catholicism made the demand that the West stay monogamous, meaning one man, one woman.

05:29:10.420 So you were kind of appealing past even the identity of the West, which has mandated this basically forever, right?

05:29:18.320 Wouldn't that be more of our history than the idea of having these kind of open relationships where you can just screw whoever you want?

05:29:26.600 I think that there's many successful couples that have this has worked for them, and it's not whoever you want.

05:29:34.580 It's maybe what you guys have defined is okay with both of you.

05:29:39.060 So it's not just whoever.

05:29:40.600 I mean, maybe some relationships are like that.

05:29:42.140 They're just open to whoever.

05:29:43.020 That wouldn't be something that I would be interested in.

05:29:47.440 Okay, okay.

05:29:48.240 So let me back up.

05:29:49.020 I'm just going to make this as concise as I can because it's very evasive what's happening.

05:29:54.520 I feel like you're doing everything you can to kind of duck the question.

05:29:57.440 So I'm just going to be as blunt and concise as I can be.

05:30:00.200 How do you think a man having sex with two women is different than a woman having sex with two men?

05:30:08.460 How?

05:30:12.000 Well, are we talking about just strangers?

05:30:16.540 Are we talking about a married couple?

05:30:18.220 Any couple or any variation of any configuration of couple you can possibly think of?

05:30:24.020 What is the difference here?

05:30:26.700 Because I think, I don't think, I mean, a man doesn't want to see, it's not desirable for a woman to be with multiple men.

05:30:40.660 And a man wouldn't want to see that because they're naturally possessive and want what's theirs.

05:30:45.020 But for a woman to share, I think, is different.

05:30:48.900 Like a man does like that.

05:30:50.540 That probably makes them feel really good and like wanted.

05:30:52.220 Well, then it logically follows, then it would logically follow that if the idea is because this is what men like to see,

05:30:59.540 that if a man would like to see his wife getting plowed by another man, what exactly could ever be your objection to that?

05:31:06.140 I'm not saying that, I'm just talking about my own personal preference.

05:31:09.880 That can be a scenario that some couples are okay with, and I'm sure it is.

05:31:14.460 It's not for me.

05:31:15.500 Okay, but you think, but I just want to make sure that we're totally clear.

05:31:24.320 The only delineation point that you can see is how this isn't basically exactly the same thing in reverse,

05:31:29.780 because that's exactly what it is in reverse.

05:31:31.940 It's just that men prefer it not to be that way.

05:31:36.580 Yeah.

05:31:37.900 Okay.

05:31:38.960 All right.

05:31:39.320 I mean, does anybody agree or disagree with me?

05:31:49.420 Giovanni J.D. donated $100.

05:31:52.640 If my wife went on a podcast with a million of viewers and talked about getting porked by some Z-list scumbags

05:31:58.800 and his friends, I'd leave her so fast.

05:32:01.360 If he sticks with you, he's a cuck and deserves you.

05:32:06.440 I took some MILF.

05:32:09.320 I'm not sure how to respond to that.

05:32:10.600 I think that's a fair point.

05:32:13.200 I guess I don't totally disagree, but I don't know.

05:32:18.160 I'm not entirely sure how to respond.

05:32:21.000 Fair point.

05:32:22.240 Okay.

05:32:22.780 I guess.

05:32:23.400 I don't know.

05:32:24.380 All right.

05:32:27.440 Thank you, Giovanni.

05:32:28.600 Hillary Epstein donated $100.

05:32:31.780 Is LA just a cesspool for degeneracy?

05:32:34.260 Why are so many of girls sex workers or just scam men?

05:32:39.900 Why is she mad about stripping?

05:32:42.000 Your son should be ashamed.

05:32:43.740 That one really hurt.

05:32:48.820 Yeah.

05:32:49.460 Do you want to respond?

05:32:50.040 Just, you know, like, yeah.

05:32:56.920 He might end up being, like, I really only care about what my kids think and nobody else really.

05:33:02.760 So, you know, maybe it wasn't the best decision to come on here.

05:33:06.120 Like I said, I thought we might have talked about other things that I was more interested in talking about.

05:33:10.920 But, yeah, you know, we have a very close bond and he's getting older and I'm sure he's going to realize, you know, he has a hot mom.

05:33:21.680 He's going to be getting into high school.

05:33:23.400 He's going to have to deal with a lot of stuff.

05:33:25.240 Chick's a milf.

05:33:26.780 How is this not a political topic?

05:33:29.560 This is a very hot political topic, in fact.

05:33:32.180 You're talking about the discussion of traditional families, marriage, the structure of society itself.

05:33:37.620 It couldn't be a more political topic.

05:33:40.920 And so if you say on the politics front that you're okay with non-monogamous relationships where they're opened up to having other sexual partners,

05:33:49.620 you are talking about the social order and the political order of society.

05:33:53.720 I don't even understand why those would be distinct in your book.

05:33:57.080 What political topics did you want to talk about exactly?

05:34:04.140 Let's see.

05:34:06.460 Gender roles a lot, I guess.

05:34:08.340 It's the thing that we can't, we can't say the thing that I, the agenda.

05:34:17.740 What, what agenda?

05:34:19.220 The agenda, I can't say the.

05:34:20.760 Yeah, I don't want to talk about that.

05:34:21.880 All right, yeah.

05:34:22.360 So things that nobody wants to talk about.

05:34:26.700 Wait, hold on.

05:34:27.880 Are you talking like trans stuff?

05:34:29.560 Oh, yeah, that stuff.

05:34:30.820 Yeah.

05:34:31.000 You said, okay, I'll just say, you said LGBTQ, but you would fuck a woman in a threesome?

05:34:36.180 Yeah, what do you mean?

05:34:37.580 What are we talking about here?

05:34:39.060 Wait, you said, okay, I'll just say.

05:34:40.620 I'm not bisexual.

05:34:41.240 I'm not inclined to talk about LGBTQ, but you'll have a threesome.

05:34:45.980 Yeah, I said I didn't like the agenda.

05:34:47.920 Like, I don't like how it's being pushed in schools.

05:34:49.780 I don't like how it's everywhere.

05:34:51.280 That's not really within the purview of the podcast.

05:34:53.800 Oh, okay.

05:34:54.300 I'm not inclined to talk about it.

05:34:55.820 Well, what even, what about the agenda would be wrong, right?

05:34:59.140 It's like, all you're doing is griping about same-sex people saying that it's perfectly

05:35:05.120 acceptable for them to be engaged in same-sex activity, and yet here you're saying it's

05:35:09.620 perfectly acceptable for you to be engaged in same-sex activity.

05:35:12.400 Like, I don't even understand.

05:35:13.140 What would even be the complaint?

05:35:15.960 It's not just saying, like, accept that we like that.

05:35:19.420 It's just, it's, it's just putting, like, shoving it down your throat.

05:35:23.920 It's like, it's fine to do things, like, behind closed doors, or to say I want equal, like,

05:35:28.840 to say I'm in a relationship, but with a woman, like, great.

05:35:32.420 But to, like, have a parade and, like, do all that stuff.

05:35:36.940 Yeah, this ain't the podcast for it.

05:35:37.520 Yeah, okay, all right.

05:35:39.060 I don't know why you would come on this podcast thinking that's what we're going to talk about.

05:35:43.760 Okay, I'm sorry.

05:35:44.880 It's a dating podcast.

05:35:46.880 I know, but I noticed that those topics have come up before, so.

05:35:50.200 I don't think that, that specific topic.

05:35:52.320 Like, the trans stuff.

05:35:54.240 Because you've had trans guests, so.

05:35:56.280 Cooking?

05:35:56.760 No, we have.

05:35:57.300 That has nothing at all to do with homosexuality, just so you know.

05:36:01.220 You can be a transgender person, not be a homosexual, correct?

05:36:05.060 Yeah, but it's part of the, the letters.

05:36:07.920 It's all the thing.

05:36:09.400 Yeah, so is, I mean, but you could, you could just infinitely add on to that, right?

05:36:13.440 Right.

05:36:14.200 You could say, you could say whatever you want.

05:36:15.780 Yeah.

05:36:16.180 It could be added in addition to this, but it really has nothing to do, ultimately.

05:36:19.800 Just because it's a tagline doesn't, doesn't actually mean anything, right?

05:36:26.480 Yeah, so moving things on, you said that you're very conservative politically, more liberal sexual dating viewpoints.

05:36:35.620 You agree with a lot of what the host's opinions, you think something that you'd love to discuss is how people can change.

05:36:43.520 Yeah.

05:36:43.720 I certainly have over the years, and I feel the host and Chase, more specifically, mind you, Chase has not been on in almost a year.

05:36:52.020 Oh, see, I know.

05:36:53.260 Are very dismissive to the thought of dating someone who may have a lot of experience, but has truly changed.

05:37:00.200 Mm-hmm.

05:37:00.840 Yeah.

05:37:01.480 So you're talking like a man who doesn't want to date a woman.

05:37:04.100 Who may have done stuff like work in her past like that.

05:37:07.760 What's wrong with that?

05:37:09.060 Wait, you said work?

05:37:11.120 Yeah.

05:37:11.300 What would actually be wrong with, with, with that?

05:37:13.440 No, I'm, there's nothing wrong with that.

05:37:15.300 It's just that I feel like, you know, when I look back on being a vegan, for instance, I'm just like, it was the most annoying part of my life.

05:37:23.180 Like, I was so annoying.

05:37:24.760 Like, just talking about it all the time, just trying to push it on people all the time.

05:37:28.820 Like, you can really, really change, and, like, I think it should be more based off of who the person is now and what their opinions are now and their perspectives.

05:37:37.700 Sure.

05:37:37.900 If they can also be honest with you in a personal one-on-one about their past.

05:37:43.440 And leave it up for you to decide.

05:37:45.200 But instead of blanketly saying, no, I only want to.

05:37:49.240 What's wrong with that?

05:37:50.060 I don't think there's anything wrong with a blanket.

05:37:52.460 Like, if you ever did this in your past, I entirely disregard you, even if you are an amazing, fantastic person today.

05:38:00.780 Hey, now, if you used to do OF or porn or strip, you can be saved.

05:38:06.980 You can be redeemed.

05:38:07.960 Yes.

05:38:08.620 But men do not need to then disregard your past and go on to date you and marry you.

05:38:16.100 These two things are compatible.

05:38:17.600 Or do you think men are obliged to date redeemed women?

05:38:23.560 No, definitely not obliged to.

05:38:25.560 Right.

05:38:26.200 But, I mean, if that's a hard...

05:38:27.720 If a woman wears pink socks, I can reject her on that basis alone.

05:38:32.480 I can reject a woman for any reason I want.

05:38:35.880 You can.

05:38:36.320 Just in the same way that women will reject men for a wide variety of completely arbitrary and benign reasons, men are allowed to do the same.

05:38:46.120 I agree.

05:38:46.720 But the woman with pink socks maybe is going to make you the best tacos that you've ever had in your life.

05:38:51.820 So I'm just saying that you guys are closing yourselves off to possibility of some potentially really great qualities and really great experiences.

05:39:01.540 That's all I'm saying.

05:39:02.020 But it's just a total incompatibility if, here's my standard.

05:39:07.540 I don't date women who are or have been involved in sex work.

05:39:13.540 Don't care how fantastic she is.

05:39:15.520 This is a boundary.

05:39:16.800 This is a standard.

05:39:17.920 Okay.

05:39:18.560 She could conceivably be the most compatible and we would otherwise have a fantastic relationship.

05:39:27.360 But on this basis alone, I refuse to even engage with her.

05:39:32.800 Even knowing she could be fantastic, it is just a deal breaker for me.

05:39:37.400 Yeah.

05:39:37.520 What's actually wrong with that?

05:39:39.020 Well, there's nothing wrong with it.

05:39:40.120 I'm just saying that it's a little closed-minded.

05:39:42.400 Why is it closed-minded?

05:39:43.740 It's just that you're being selective of what you're looking for.

05:39:45.780 You mean the same way that women are incredibly...

05:39:48.460 Don't we all do it?

05:39:48.780 We all have our standards.

05:39:49.620 I would never date a vegan and I would never date a liberal.

05:39:51.340 Wait, who's more picky, men or women?

05:39:53.980 Women, I think.

05:39:54.880 Well, y'all are super closed-minded about all the things that you look for in a man.

05:39:59.820 We literally said that earlier.

05:40:00.360 Maybe you guys should consider dating a guy who's shorter.

05:40:02.920 Maybe you should consider a guy who doesn't make X amount of money.

05:40:05.860 Well, that's what you said earlier.

05:40:06.620 I would.

05:40:07.600 I would totally do that.

05:40:08.500 That's not what I'm saying.

05:40:09.140 I'm speaking in generalities.

05:40:10.640 Right.

05:40:11.120 So, right.

05:40:12.820 But I'm speaking, like, personally.

05:40:15.640 I'm just saying you might be missing out on some amazing women.

05:40:20.580 So, like, you have to understand, though, so if you were engaged in this kind of work, regardless of how fantastic you are now, most men are not going to appreciate their future wife having nude photos of them on the internet.

05:40:34.880 That's forever.

05:40:35.860 You can't take that back.

05:40:37.320 I agree.

05:40:37.700 And then your future children are not going to appreciate that, too.

05:40:40.040 Yeah.

05:40:40.480 That's why I would never have an OnlyFans.

05:40:42.300 I just wouldn't do that.

05:40:43.360 But you said you did girl-on-girl stuff.

05:40:46.580 Right.

05:40:46.980 That was different time.

05:40:49.520 It's probably out there somewhere.

05:40:51.680 Yeah.

05:40:52.720 Was it video or picture?

05:40:56.420 I was in a magazine.

05:40:58.480 It wasn't video?

05:41:00.740 Magazine of the threesome?

05:41:02.200 How is that possible?

05:41:02.680 No.

05:41:03.080 It was just pictured.

05:41:03.740 No, no, no.

05:41:04.360 That wasn't.

05:41:05.980 The threesome conversation was something different.

05:41:08.840 Oh.

05:41:08.980 But, I mean, like, okay, so I just don't understand.

05:41:14.220 Why is it, like, closed-minded?

05:41:19.500 Because it's closed-minded because you're dismissing an entire, like, okay, for instance, and there's lots of...

05:41:28.060 So?

05:41:29.060 Okay.

05:41:29.420 What's wrong with...

05:41:29.780 Yeah, you can do that.

05:41:30.620 No, but what is actually wrong with dismissing an entire cohort of people?

05:41:35.740 No, you totally can.

05:41:36.740 I do that all the time.

05:41:37.640 I don't like to date guys in California, so there we go.

05:41:41.740 But it's kind of an even worse entailment here.

05:41:45.360 Like, for instance, would you ever drink Hiawaska tea and then go naked kayaking with a group of strangers?

05:41:53.660 Osmosis 12 donated $100.

05:41:59.320 Girl to girl to girl, respect yourself.

05:42:03.140 You might be frightened that a man will cheat, but any man okay with doing that does not love you and does not respect you and is the type to cheat.

05:42:11.320 Threesome topic.

05:42:13.300 Yeah, we can back up to that, but, like, would you drink Hiawaska tea and then get a kayak full of naked strangers?

05:42:18.880 I probably wouldn't do that.

05:42:23.480 Yeah, probably not, but, I mean, isn't that being closed-minded?

05:42:27.780 No, I've just said probably.

05:42:29.220 I didn't say I would for sure never do that.

05:42:32.160 Oh, okay.

05:42:33.040 Well, would you by chance...

05:42:36.020 I'm not inclined to do it.

05:42:37.060 Would you by chance go and get into a gangbang with 15 different guys at the same time while it was being filmed?

05:42:43.740 Absolutely not, filmed or not.

05:42:45.080 Well, wait, well, wait.

05:42:46.460 Aren't you being closed-minded?

05:42:47.960 No, I just said that's fine.

05:42:50.200 You're right.

05:42:50.680 I just said that's fine.

05:42:52.180 I said that I do that as well.

05:42:54.700 Would you date a man who previously had sex with men?

05:42:58.280 No, absolutely not.

05:42:59.380 But he's bi.

05:43:00.080 He's not gay.

05:43:00.860 He's bi.

05:43:01.820 No.

05:43:01.960 So he is attracted to women.

05:43:03.800 Nope.

05:43:04.460 Well, that's very closed-minded of you.

05:43:05.860 I think girl on, you know, girls with girls is different.

05:43:13.080 Well, I'm not even making that argument.

05:43:14.680 I'm just saying, like, that's a completely different thing.

05:43:17.440 But you could be missing out on a really fantastic partner.

05:43:20.920 Yeah, you're right.

05:43:22.120 You're right.

05:43:22.560 So now I'm seeing where you're coming from.

05:43:24.560 Absolutely not.

05:43:25.300 Would never do that.

05:43:26.600 Never.

05:43:26.900 So I get it.

05:43:27.640 So that's a standard for me.

05:43:29.320 Well, that's what I mean.

05:43:30.560 The idea, I would agree with you.

05:43:33.780 There is all sorts of potential, I suppose, experiences or things that you could be missing out on.

05:43:40.660 Yeah.

05:43:41.180 But the thing is, is that why isn't that true of literally everything?

05:43:48.540 It is.

05:43:50.020 It is.

05:43:50.800 Yeah.

05:43:51.000 So.

05:43:52.120 Yeah, it is.

05:43:53.520 So.

05:43:53.820 Could be.

05:44:00.200 Oh, let me get, let the chats come in and I pause them temporarily.

05:44:03.700 Yo, Hillary, thank you.

05:44:04.660 Hillary Epstein donated $100.

05:44:07.960 Repent and regret are not the same thing.

05:44:10.380 Your son watches.

05:44:12.040 He knows.

05:44:13.260 Admit you made a mistake and educate him and the sex workers in the audience of how it's a terrible idea.

05:44:18.940 You can set an example.

05:44:20.180 Oh, yeah, I agree.

05:44:24.320 It is a mistake and I'm not naive enough to think that he's never going to find out.

05:44:28.200 So, yeah, I think it is important, though, ladies, to think about your future families and things like that.

05:44:37.420 There's two more coming in.

05:44:38.340 Hail and well met.

05:44:39.420 Thank you, Law Paladins.

05:44:39.960 Law Paladins donated $100.02.

05:44:43.580 I refuse to date former murderers.

05:44:46.420 I guess it just makes me close-minded.

05:44:48.600 I might be missing out on some really great threesomes.

05:44:52.340 Lady, you keep saying conservative.

05:44:54.720 Do you even know the definition?

05:45:00.120 Okay, thank you.

05:45:02.040 All right.

05:45:02.740 Yes.

05:45:03.080 There's another one coming in.

05:45:04.300 Law Paladins, good to see you in the chat, man.

05:45:06.000 Appreciate the TTS.

05:45:08.620 Avatar, what a great avatar.

05:45:10.080 Kilo of cereal donated $100.

05:45:12.580 Thank you, Kilo of cereal.

05:45:13.180 Get some, get some.

05:45:15.120 Stay hydrated, stay alive.

05:45:17.300 Keep life in perspective.

05:45:19.420 Live within your means.

05:45:20.720 That's beautiful.

05:45:21.160 Work to earn your keep.

05:45:22.600 That's beautiful.

05:45:22.880 Never give up on yourself.

05:45:24.800 Life is only as hard as you choose to make it.

05:45:27.420 I'm going to kill it.

05:45:28.400 I'm going to, I need to find a GIF.

05:45:29.820 I really like that.

05:45:30.660 That's nice.

05:45:31.360 To, like, give you a custom thing, because your frequent TTS are, like, Law Paladins and Grid1.

05:45:37.600 Where is he, anyways?

05:45:39.140 I'll do one.

05:45:40.480 We need to find...

05:45:40.740 Can you give him a Count Chocula?

05:45:42.420 Give him a Count Chocula.

05:45:43.420 Yeah, I was thinking cereal.

05:45:44.720 Like, maybe somebody stabbing, like, a...

05:45:46.760 What about Captain Crunch?

05:45:47.940 Do Captain Crunch?

05:45:49.420 Captain Crunch?

05:45:50.340 Yeah, something like that.

05:45:51.580 There, maybe the, the ding will be, like, they're great.

05:45:55.180 I don't know.

05:45:56.500 Thank you, Kilo of cereal.

05:45:57.560 Appreciate it, man.

05:45:59.520 So, yeah.

05:46:02.040 I don't know.

05:46:04.120 Why?

05:46:04.540 Do you have a thing for Chase?

05:46:06.340 No, I don't.

05:46:07.120 I could link you guys up if you want.

05:46:08.660 No.

05:46:08.860 No, you're not.

05:46:11.520 Hold on.

05:46:12.260 This gets into the other notes here, because you said that you have a lot of dating, you

05:46:17.440 know, experiences.

05:46:19.180 Yeah.

05:46:20.120 And you dated a lot of younger guys since you've been in your 30s.

05:46:23.800 Yeah.

05:46:24.320 Including an 18-year-old once.

05:46:26.500 Yes.

05:46:27.600 Yeah.

05:46:28.460 I did.

05:46:29.040 I did do that.

05:46:30.660 Did you go to your daughter's high school?

05:46:33.780 No, I went to Texas.

05:46:35.320 Oh, okay.

05:46:35.680 I was in Texas.

05:46:35.940 Wait.

05:46:36.720 You went to Texas?

05:46:39.380 How did you meet this guy?

05:46:41.040 I had met him when I was on the dating app in Texas.

05:46:44.060 Wait.

05:46:44.580 When you were in Texas or when you were-

05:46:46.740 No, I'm on the dating app.

05:46:47.740 Here, I set my location.

05:46:48.600 You set your location to Texas.

05:46:50.420 What was the age range that you set it to?

05:46:52.580 Oh, like 18 to 65.

05:46:54.960 Okay.

05:46:55.300 Cougar over here.

05:46:57.060 Milf.

05:46:57.640 But I've actually like only dated two guys my age.

05:46:59.600 It's a milf.

05:47:00.580 And then-

05:47:01.400 Wait.

05:47:02.240 Your whole life?

05:47:03.140 Mm-hmm.

05:47:04.240 Your age or older?

05:47:05.680 Have you ever dated-

05:47:06.520 Around my age.

05:47:07.200 What's the oldest guy you dated?

05:47:09.680 Like-

05:47:10.520 Like it would be my kid's dad.

05:47:13.140 He was seven years older than me.

05:47:14.720 When you were 18, right?

05:47:16.060 Okay.

05:47:17.660 You dated-

05:47:18.480 Wait, so you're-

05:47:19.100 Oh, I'm sorry.

05:47:19.820 No, when I was 16-

05:47:21.800 Uh-oh.

05:47:23.480 Yeah, when I was 16, I had-

05:47:25.440 Uh-oh.

05:47:26.260 Yeah, no.

05:47:27.360 When you were 16, you dated a guy seven years older than you?

05:47:30.780 No, not-

05:47:31.920 No, much worse.

05:47:33.480 And it's not-

05:47:33.980 Worse?

05:47:34.100 It's not-

05:47:34.560 Yeah, it's not great.

05:47:35.660 It's, uh, it was bad.

05:47:37.260 It was not-

05:47:38.620 Okay.

05:47:39.060 Should not talk about that because of the age.

05:47:40.840 Okay, we'll skip it.

05:47:42.320 Uh, but you dated an 18-year-old.

05:47:45.520 So you flew out to Texas to date an 18-year-old?

05:47:49.260 No, not to that.

05:47:49.880 Like I mentioned, I have a lot of family and friends there, so that's why it was convenient

05:47:52.820 for me to set up the location there, go out there and visit, maybe meet some of the guys

05:47:57.480 that I'd been talking to for months on the-

05:47:59.580 How many of you guys did you meet?

05:48:01.120 Are you a teacher, by chance?

05:48:04.040 No.

05:48:05.040 Okay.

05:48:05.500 Wait, how many-

05:48:06.120 I'm a massage therapist.

05:48:07.180 Wait, how many times-

05:48:08.300 How many times have you gone out to Texas?

05:48:13.120 Oh, well, I just-

05:48:14.660 That's crazy.

05:48:16.080 Um, yeah.

05:48:16.840 Uh, he was almost 19, by the way.

05:48:23.800 But, um, how many times have I gone out there?

05:48:27.680 Maybe nine times in the past.

05:48:32.800 Nine?

05:48:33.360 Yeah.

05:48:33.580 Nine times?

05:48:34.420 Because you said when you go out there to Texas, you'll meet up with all the guys that

05:48:39.220 you're talking to.

05:48:40.180 Well, actually, not necessarily.

05:48:42.540 It doesn't-

05:48:43.120 There, I was dating-

05:48:44.020 I've dated some guys, like, consistently for just a month.

05:48:46.320 Just talk to those guys two months.

05:48:47.860 Go out there and meet them.

05:48:48.780 It doesn't work out.

05:48:50.220 And-

05:48:50.540 Do they fly you out?

05:48:52.100 Um, or do you-

05:48:53.440 It's been both.

05:48:55.060 So, because like I said, sometimes I go and visit my family, so.

05:48:59.680 Cousins?

05:49:00.680 I have triplet cousins that live there.

05:49:03.040 Wow.

05:49:03.400 They must be wondering, like, why the fuck is she coming to see us so quickly?

05:49:07.300 She really loves us.

05:49:07.740 No, they didn't.

05:49:09.040 They knew that I wanted to check out the area.

05:49:11.120 They knew that I wanted to check out-

05:49:12.660 I know.

05:49:13.140 All of a sudden, she's been very interested in us as cousins.

05:49:17.180 No, they knew that I wanted- was thinking about moving into the area.

05:49:20.560 And I have some friends out there as well.

05:49:21.720 But, uh, so the- the 18-year-old, uh, you went on one date with him?

05:49:27.660 Yeah, we were-

05:49:28.540 Is he still in high school?

05:49:29.480 No.

05:49:30.340 Okay.

05:49:30.880 We were talking for a couple months, and I don't know.

05:49:34.220 I'm just, like, such a sucker for, like, romance and stuff.

05:49:37.560 And he was like, I love you.

05:49:40.060 And I was like, no, you don't.

05:49:41.080 That's crazy.

05:49:42.860 Damn.

05:49:43.520 W-18-year-old Riz, I guess?

05:49:45.800 I don't know.

05:49:46.700 I don't know.

05:49:47.260 I love you.

05:49:47.980 I thought he was really sweet.

05:49:49.680 Oh, man.

05:49:50.420 Did you smash?

05:49:52.720 You did?

05:49:54.220 Or did you watch?

05:49:58.540 Was it a one-time thing?

05:50:01.860 Was the sex bad?

05:50:04.680 Um, no.

05:50:06.960 Pale and well met.

05:50:08.600 Lol Paladins donated $100.02.

05:50:12.280 Nice.

05:50:12.660 Flown out, blown out, shown out.

05:50:15.560 Men, don't commit.

05:50:16.980 Why would you, when they whore themselves out, when they like you?

05:50:20.700 You know, just so you know, I was really, like, thinking about, like, we were talking

05:50:25.560 about, like, future plans and stuff.

05:50:26.940 It wasn't like, let me go out there and do this one-time thing.

05:50:29.540 Can I ask you?

05:50:30.200 I know it seems stupid, because he was so young, but he was, like, had a really great

05:50:34.440 construction job.

05:50:35.500 Took some milk.

05:50:37.680 You know, it's like, I'm not going to discount, like I said earlier, I'm not just, I don't care

05:50:41.760 that much about, like, the whole money situation.

05:50:43.640 Like, he wanted, he was a good hard worker.

05:50:45.260 These are values that I care about.

05:50:46.700 Like, he was a really, um...

05:50:47.980 But, like, do you think an 18-year-old is looking at, like, I want a long-term...

05:50:53.720 Well, that's what he thought.

05:50:54.700 I tried to, I mean, I said that.

05:50:57.320 Wait, did you end things, or did he?

05:51:01.600 Um, I guess it just kind of, like...

05:51:04.500 Fizzled after?

05:51:05.980 Mm-hmm.

05:51:06.000 No, not right after.

05:51:07.680 Some unfortunate...

05:51:08.220 Roth underscore PSA donated $100.

05:51:11.480 Should it give you the, to date an 18-year-old boy, the same as dating an 18-year-old girl?

05:51:17.680 Their prefrontal cortex isn't even formed yet.

05:51:21.160 Well...

05:51:21.560 I don't think, I don't have a problem with it the other way.

05:51:24.680 Yeah.

05:51:24.980 Like, if it was a 38-year-old guy.

05:51:27.140 Well, let me ask the panel a quick question.

05:51:28.480 I don't have a problem with that.

05:51:29.340 Just with a very fast show of hands, is that sort of age gap, if it was a man and an 18-year-old

05:51:36.800 girl, appropriate by a show of hands, do you think that that's okay?

05:51:42.440 Wait.

05:51:43.700 Is it okay if, like, a guy dates a young girl that's 18?

05:51:47.560 You guys are saying it's okay?

05:51:48.880 Yeah.

05:51:51.160 I think it's totally fine.

05:51:54.180 Totally fine.

05:51:55.020 Okay.

05:51:55.200 I don't have any objections over the age gap, to be honest.

05:51:58.940 I just, it's a little more uncommon for women.

05:52:03.660 No, no, no, no, no.

05:52:05.220 It's predatory, and what's happening here is that you're taking advantage of this poor,

05:52:14.500 well, boy, really.

05:52:15.960 Oh, poor baby.

05:52:17.320 If you want to take it, just freshly 18.

05:52:19.460 Oh, boy, really.

05:52:20.400 No, he wasn't freshly 18.

05:52:21.600 Right to the core of it, and you're taking advantage of him.

05:52:24.800 Andrew.

05:52:25.200 For the sole purpose of his body, and you don't even care about what kind of horrible fucking

05:52:31.380 monster does this, really.

05:52:33.260 Does it give you the ick, Andrew?

05:52:34.920 Does it give you the ick?

05:52:36.400 I got the ick, Brian.

05:52:38.360 I got the ick.

05:52:39.500 It gives him the ick.

05:52:42.020 Can you actually, you know, think of a, like, is there any actual moral object, you know,

05:52:48.260 objection here, or it just gives you the ick, Andrew?

05:52:51.360 There is, I do have a wonderful moral objection to this, but until it actually comes up on the

05:52:58.560 whatever podcast for me to give my moral objection, I'm not going to.

05:53:02.360 So for now, it gives me the ick.

05:53:04.700 It gives him the ick.

05:53:05.340 It gives me the ick.

05:53:06.760 Yeah.

05:53:07.340 Wait, so who's against?

05:53:08.460 Icky.

05:53:08.960 Who's against?

05:53:11.000 She nailed it.

05:53:11.980 Dang it.

05:53:12.240 Do it again.

05:53:12.620 Do it again.

05:53:13.060 You hit it.

05:53:13.780 Wait, who's against age gap relationships?

05:53:20.760 I mean, I don't know.

05:53:21.700 Okay, here's the scenario.

05:53:22.780 35-year-old, 20-year-old.

05:53:24.420 Against?

05:53:25.580 But is it with a boy and girl?

05:53:27.900 Male, 35, woman, 20.

05:53:30.460 No.

05:53:31.300 No.

05:53:32.080 Oh, I thought you were against.

05:53:34.020 Okay.

05:53:35.000 No.

05:53:37.020 20?

05:53:38.100 20, yeah.

05:53:38.780 I feel like 20 is a push or start, yeah.

05:53:40.520 Yeah.

05:53:40.920 It's cool.

05:53:41.100 It's a what?

05:53:42.180 It's cool.

05:53:43.240 It's what?

05:53:44.060 It's appropriate.

05:53:44.800 It's appropriate?

05:53:45.180 It's appropriate.

05:53:45.740 It's cool?

05:53:46.480 Okay.

05:53:46.860 Not with the 18.

05:53:47.780 Fine.

05:53:48.240 But it gives you the ick?

05:53:50.260 No, I don't get the ick.

05:53:51.800 I was just like thinking.

05:53:53.840 Lauren?

05:53:54.280 I think it's wrong.

05:53:55.900 No.

05:53:56.540 I mean, I would never date younger myself personally.

05:53:59.680 Well, I sure get the ick, Brian.

05:54:02.060 I get the ick.

05:54:02.680 That's gross.

05:54:02.720 It's just disgusting by every metric.

05:54:06.500 I can't believe these hyper predatory women who pray on these poor, hapless, freshly

05:54:13.000 18.

05:54:13.780 Kids.

05:54:14.460 He was freshly 18.

05:54:16.360 He was almost 19.

05:54:17.980 These fucking monsters, Brian.

05:54:19.820 I just, I can't even imagine.

05:54:22.740 Yeah.

05:54:23.180 Um, but you said when you go out to Texas, you'll like meet up with the guys who you're

05:54:29.860 talking to.

05:54:30.560 I've talked to like at a time, like one at a time, like dated.

05:54:35.420 Um, so I've had some crazy thoughts.

05:54:36.980 Stop the cow.

05:54:37.640 I'm not, no, no, I'm serious.

05:54:40.400 Like I'm, I'm really like, I really like thought I was like, this is, this guy's like the one

05:54:45.820 this guy's like perfect for me.

05:54:47.000 18 year old.

05:54:47.660 I even thought that about him.

05:54:49.040 I call me delusional, but like, he really, he really talked me up a lot.

05:54:52.900 I'm too old for you.

05:54:54.060 He said he didn't care.

05:54:55.260 Like when we were older.

05:54:56.260 Am I dinosaur?

05:54:57.360 Like I'm, I'm 35.

05:54:58.940 Am I too, too old?

05:55:00.420 Am I geriatric for you?

05:55:01.980 No.

05:55:02.080 I'm just curious.

05:55:03.520 It's just like, okay.

05:55:05.220 So a couple of those guys that I've thought were like for, for sure, for sure.

05:55:09.280 Like for sure, for sure, for sure, for sure.

05:55:10.940 For sure.

05:55:11.420 Um, it's just like crazy.

05:55:14.480 They're like crazy things happened.

05:55:16.200 Like one of them, we didn't even get to, we didn't even get to meet.

05:55:19.420 And all of a sudden he sent me a video and said like, I thought this was like, no, I never

05:55:23.380 even, no.

05:55:24.720 Um, like I really thought we'd been FaceTiming for like two months and he would like, it seemed

05:55:29.260 like things were going great.

05:55:30.280 I was like, wow, this is so easy.

05:55:31.300 It just got this idea in my head about this Texas thing, moving there, finding a husband

05:55:35.400 and like, wow, I found a guy.

05:55:37.000 And then I don't know what happened in his life.

05:55:38.720 I'll never know.

05:55:39.300 He sent me a video like crying.

05:55:40.900 I went out there, sent me a video saying he's going through something.

05:55:43.580 He wasn't crying, but he was like tearing up.

05:55:45.020 He said, he's going through something.

05:55:45.960 He just couldn't talk about it.

05:55:47.020 Wait, how old was it?

05:55:48.740 No, this guy was just my, was one of the guys that was my age.

05:55:52.180 He was a year younger than me actually.

05:55:55.440 So he was crying.

05:55:57.100 No, he wasn't crying.

05:55:58.020 He was just something happened with all these dudes crying.

05:56:01.840 He wasn't crying, but something, I don't know what happened and who knows what happened.

05:56:05.020 Like, I have no idea.

05:56:05.660 We didn't even hadn't even met yet.

05:56:07.140 And for two months we've been FaceTiming and talking.

05:56:09.000 And I really thought, like, this is great, you know?

05:56:13.180 But then I don't know what happened in his life.

05:56:15.620 So he was just like, no.

05:56:17.580 Another guy I really thought was going to be the one.

05:56:20.840 What's wrong with you?

05:56:22.520 I say that in a nice way.

05:56:23.540 Oh, no, I know.

05:56:24.440 I wonder that too.

05:56:25.220 You know, like.

05:56:25.680 Okay, for instance.

05:56:26.180 Yeah, okay.

05:56:26.640 I know what's wrong with me.

05:56:27.800 Yeah.

05:56:27.980 You know?

05:56:28.420 What's wrong with you?

05:56:29.280 Okay.

05:56:30.300 I know it's just going to sound so stupid.

05:56:33.360 Like, I did have a boyfriend that broke up with me for being too nice.

05:56:36.620 Oh, my.

05:56:37.540 Okay.

05:56:40.320 That happened.

05:56:41.100 I think I could be, like.

05:56:42.120 My only weakness is I'm.

05:56:43.360 I have no weaknesses.

05:56:44.120 I think I could be, like, intimidating.

05:56:46.860 I think it's not.

05:56:47.480 Intimidating?

05:56:48.180 Because I'm so, like.

05:56:49.240 You?

05:56:49.480 Happy and positive.

05:56:50.920 Intimidating?

05:56:51.560 You mean, like, too friendly?

05:56:52.800 Yeah.

05:56:53.060 That it can be, like, flirtatious in a way?

05:56:55.320 While Paladin's donated $100 and two cents.

05:56:59.040 This poor exos child is going to have to go on the podcast and talk about his trauma ten

05:57:04.360 years from now.

05:57:05.620 I do guarantee one thing.

05:57:07.600 He wasn't a fat Warcraft player.

05:57:09.860 She didn't death him for his personality.

05:57:12.640 Hey, he might.

05:57:13.140 Well, you have to understand that when you're flawless and perfect in every way.

05:57:17.200 I'm not.

05:57:17.860 I'm not.

05:57:18.360 It becomes intimidating towards everybody who's around you.

05:57:21.700 It wasn't nice that you didn't realize.

05:57:22.980 That's not what it is.

05:57:24.420 I think it's, like, I've been, I'm just going off of feedback that I've gotten because I've

05:57:28.460 been rejected a lot because I think it's intimidating that I'm, like, oh, hey, I think you're really

05:57:34.000 attractive.

05:57:34.480 Like, would you, like, my number, would you, like, you know what I mean?

05:57:38.280 I think that in itself, in and of itself, is sometimes intimidating because guys aren't

05:57:42.680 used to that.

05:57:43.780 And then I've gotten guys that, like, think I'm trying to, like, scam them or something.

05:57:47.480 And I'm, like, what am I trying to scam you out of?

05:57:49.540 They're, like, why would you be, like, why would you talk to me?

05:57:51.500 And I'm, like.

05:57:51.820 Because you're almost 19.

05:57:52.520 I don't know.

05:57:53.100 I was just, like, thought, I really thought you, like, had a group.

05:57:55.840 We had similar values on the app.

05:57:58.820 And I'm trying to be open-minded.

05:58:00.640 And, like, I don't know why you think I'm trying to scam you.

05:58:03.960 I don't know what the scam is.

05:58:06.020 What the hell?

05:58:06.960 Okay.

05:58:07.500 That's cool.

05:58:09.300 That's cool.

05:58:10.220 Yeah.

05:58:10.480 Oh, Maddie had a question that she wanted to ask.

05:58:14.500 Um, so if a guy doesn't want to date you for your body count, do you think he's, like, insecure?

05:58:22.740 We kind of went over this earlier.

05:58:24.600 Did we?

05:58:25.560 Yeah, I think so.

05:58:27.020 Talked about, like, security and stuff.

05:58:28.580 Does body count matter?

05:58:30.400 Like, if it matters to him.

05:58:33.180 Are you, like.

05:58:33.660 I don't think that.

05:58:34.500 Wait, wait, wait.

05:58:34.880 Let's start right here.

05:58:35.500 Oh, sorry.

05:58:35.880 I thought she was looking at me.

05:58:36.820 So I thought she was talking to me.

05:58:37.620 Go ahead.

05:58:38.340 No, I don't think it shows any insecurity.

05:58:41.240 No, that's, like, his preference.

05:58:44.280 Yeah, great.

05:58:44.720 I don't think it's insecurity.

05:58:45.860 I don't think it shows insecurities.

05:58:47.420 I agree with him.

05:58:48.820 I agree.

05:58:49.760 Yeah.

05:58:50.360 It's a preference.

05:58:51.840 Maddie, follow-up question.

05:58:52.740 So what's everyone's body count?

05:58:54.980 Minus 10.

05:58:57.040 I'm not sharing that.

05:58:59.280 Yeah, I would never.

05:58:59.880 Range?

05:59:00.100 You want to do range?

05:59:01.220 It's, like, it's, like, 7 to 8.

05:59:02.660 Okay.

05:59:03.000 I would never answer that.

05:59:04.220 Look, I was in a relationship from 18 to 30.

05:59:10.580 I was, like, Rapunzel in a tower.

05:59:12.580 So maybe that's why I literally was.

05:59:14.480 Like, I was in a very not great kind of abusive relationship.

05:59:17.520 So I was never able to do anything.

05:59:19.780 I breastfed my kids for five years.

05:59:21.080 They never had a bottle.

05:59:21.700 They never had a pacifier.

05:59:22.380 I never even went to a bar until I was, like, in my late 20s.

05:59:25.880 So in my 30s, yeah, I've been enjoying this, like, whole MILF thing.

05:59:31.100 I've been enjoying it.

05:59:31.980 And I'm not going to lie about it.

05:59:32.800 I took some MILF.

05:59:34.220 Oh, fucking yeah.

05:59:36.620 Like 20.

05:59:38.300 Sorry, how much?

05:59:39.380 Like 20.

05:59:40.040 Like 20, okay.

05:59:40.840 Under 8.

05:59:43.040 NA.

05:59:45.880 No answer.

05:59:49.420 Range?

05:59:49.880 How about range?

05:59:50.600 No answer.

05:59:51.480 More than 50?

05:59:52.820 No answer.

05:59:53.700 Multiply it by 3, and that's the real number.

05:59:55.800 Okay.

05:59:56.220 So 3.

05:59:59.000 All right.

05:59:59.680 For the sake of pure transparency, I did earlier, and for people in the future, you can rewind

06:00:10.140 my broadcast to see this, but about three hours ago, I said that I thought that the entire

06:00:15.600 precursor for why you had made all of these caveats and why you thought that men were missing

06:00:20.040 out and various things like this, when it came to promiscuous women, was that all of that

06:00:24.980 was a precursor so that you did not have to actually share your body count.

06:00:28.880 And then it turns out that I was absolutely correct.

06:00:31.660 We get to you on body count.

06:00:32.640 And of course, you don't want to actually share the body count.

06:00:36.360 Was a lot of that just kind of foreshadowing for the fact that you knew that that question

06:00:40.800 was coming and you did not want to actually share the answer?

06:00:45.240 That was a lot.

06:00:46.300 I'm sorry.

06:00:47.140 I don't understand that.

06:00:49.560 It was a lot.

06:00:50.020 It was a lot, Andrew.

06:00:52.320 Something I said foreshadowed.

06:00:54.320 Not you.

06:00:55.020 Not you.

06:00:55.520 I'm talking to the gal we were just in an interview with him.

06:00:58.800 I was so confused.

06:00:59.660 I thought he was talking.

06:01:01.040 I was like, yeah.

06:01:01.960 I was like, um, no, I did know that that question was probably going to come, but no,

06:01:08.040 I just find that like, I just, I just don't like the language.

06:01:12.040 Like it would be like, tell me to describe in detail, like what your breasts look like.

06:01:18.720 Like, it's just, I don't like the wording.

06:01:20.740 Like I just, I don't think that.

06:01:21.900 Would you answer how many threesubs you've been in?

06:01:26.240 I wouldn't be able to.

06:01:27.700 Have you ever been in one?

06:01:28.380 I haven't kept track.

06:01:29.500 Well, yeah.

06:01:29.980 Yeah.

06:01:30.240 Wait, wait.

06:01:30.740 You've been in so many.

06:01:31.740 You don't know how many.

06:01:32.760 I haven't kept track of threesomes.

06:01:34.460 Uh, no, I was in a, I was in a two year relationship with my last serious boyfriend and that was

06:01:40.320 my first time exploring that in a relationship and yeah, it was, that's nothing open-minded.

06:01:48.340 Um, it was a good experience and we had.

06:01:51.160 I don't want, I mean, I know how that goes.

06:01:52.680 It was like, I lost track of all the threesomes that I've had too.

06:01:55.560 It's a, it's a, it's a very forgettable thing, you know, so sometimes you have like 20 or

06:02:00.860 30 or 70 threesomes.

06:02:02.200 I don't know, I wasn't like keeping, I just wasn't keeping track.

06:02:04.580 It just, it slips out of the mind.

06:02:05.880 I was in a two year relationship.

06:02:07.680 Andrew drinks a lot too when he has threesomes.

06:02:10.540 It happens.

06:02:10.880 So it's really hard.

06:02:11.780 That's fair, yeah.

06:02:12.480 He drinks a lot of vodka, so.

06:02:14.580 Right?

06:02:14.840 So it's hard for him to remember, hard for him to remember.

06:02:19.400 It's, it's very difficult.

06:02:21.380 I was in a relationship with one man and we had several in that relationship.

06:02:28.140 Have you ever had a, uh, two, two dudes?

06:02:31.820 A DP?

06:02:32.420 Have you had a devil's threesome?

06:02:34.260 No, I have not.

06:02:35.680 Not interested in that scenario.

06:02:38.020 All right.

06:02:38.620 Okay.

06:02:40.320 Um, so.

06:02:42.960 Are there, are there more?

06:02:43.900 Would that be considered like a DP or something?

06:02:46.460 Not necessarily.

06:02:48.060 Not necessarily.

06:02:49.160 There's like two guys, right?

06:02:49.960 And one girl.

06:02:50.540 I mean, it's just.

06:02:51.340 Double penetration.

06:02:52.180 It's just like haram, but you know.

06:02:54.080 Um.

06:02:54.440 Yes.

06:02:55.040 Uh, we have Anna getting to, back to.

06:02:57.400 Oh, what the fuck?

06:02:58.420 Anna's nuts.

06:02:59.620 You said you have a lot of crazy dating stories you want to care to share.

06:03:03.820 Like three.

06:03:04.780 Um.

06:03:05.600 Well, my ex was like a two time felon.

06:03:10.160 Sweet.

06:03:10.560 You said you dated a guy for a year who was crazy, all caps.

06:03:14.640 Yeah, that's him.

06:03:15.840 He got arrested.

06:03:16.380 It was more like eight months exactly.

06:03:17.820 He got arrested and had two felonies before I broke up with him.

06:03:20.820 What was he arrested for?

06:03:22.160 Um, stabbing someone.

06:03:24.480 Stabbing?

06:03:25.560 Hold on.

06:03:26.680 Stabbing?

06:03:27.400 Stabbing.

06:03:28.300 But like.

06:03:28.740 I don't have a button for that.

06:03:30.340 Um.

06:03:31.420 Like fatally?

06:03:32.500 No.

06:03:33.020 Like fatally?

06:03:33.760 No, no, no.

06:03:34.560 Did he stab you?

06:03:35.680 No, he didn't stab me.

06:03:37.020 Um.

06:03:37.500 But then he actually wanted to do an open relationship.

06:03:40.180 Like polyamory.

06:03:41.780 Like five months into our relationship.

06:03:43.800 How soon into the relationship did you know he was crazy?

06:03:47.560 Like.

06:03:48.520 A month.

06:03:50.020 And you stayed with him?

06:03:50.920 I just didn't have any standards.

06:03:52.360 Oh, okay.

06:03:53.180 But.

06:03:53.620 Um.

06:03:54.220 Yeah.

06:03:54.760 So wait.

06:03:55.500 He got arrested once or twice?

06:03:58.020 He got arrested once, but it was like two charges.

06:04:00.960 Two what?

06:04:01.480 Two.

06:04:01.760 It was two felony charges.

06:04:04.020 Like.

06:04:04.100 Like stabbing two individual people?

06:04:06.160 No, it's just like the way they do the charges.

06:04:08.120 I don't know exactly.

06:04:08.960 Like it was.

06:04:09.220 You get charged for two things, so he probably did a stabbing.

06:04:11.200 He got like six charges total, but two of them were.

06:04:14.520 Stabbed.

06:04:15.100 Like desecration of a corpse or something like that.

06:04:18.300 Just casual desecration.

06:04:20.500 Um.

06:04:21.680 Okay.

06:04:22.060 You said you also dated a guy almost ten years older than you.

06:04:24.680 He ended up.

06:04:25.280 I did, yeah.

06:04:26.100 Wanting to buy the same car as Ted Bundy?

06:04:28.220 Yeah, he was like really into serial killers, and so he basically was like, he was just

06:04:33.280 randomly like, yeah, like one of my life goals is to buy Ted Bundy's car and I can drive

06:04:37.080 you around in it.

06:04:37.980 What?

06:04:39.600 Where do you find these guys?

06:04:40.820 Was he a serial killer?

06:04:42.500 Yeah.

06:04:43.060 I don't think so.

06:04:44.140 Oh, okay.

06:04:44.460 He was nice.

06:04:45.680 Oh, okay.

06:04:46.720 Wait, how old were you when you dated him?

06:04:48.240 I was 19.

06:04:49.160 He was like.

06:04:49.780 So he was like 29 or something?

06:04:50.960 27-ish.

06:04:52.060 Oh, okay.

06:04:52.380 28, something like that.

06:04:53.560 All right.

06:04:54.120 Any other crazy dating stories from you?

06:04:56.520 I would say those are definitely the craziest.

06:04:58.060 Oh, Nick, can you pull up her Instagram?

06:04:59.840 By the way, I wanted to do a little brief dive on it.

06:05:03.680 There's no, it's Anna.

06:05:07.340 Anna's her name.

06:05:09.480 Uh.

06:05:12.740 Yeah.

06:05:15.060 Whenever.

06:05:15.820 Whenever.

06:05:16.440 He's got it.

06:05:17.380 You got it?

06:05:18.120 Oh, no.

06:05:18.620 He's almost got it.

06:05:19.360 He's almost got it.

06:05:20.600 He's almost got it.

06:05:22.120 Does anybody have, who's watched the show, any disagreements?

06:05:26.260 Ready?

06:05:26.640 Besides those that have.

06:05:28.400 Yeah, sure.

06:05:30.820 Okay, so.

06:05:32.580 Scroll down a little bit.

06:05:34.000 Scroll down a little bit.

06:05:35.020 Oh.

06:05:35.380 Ooh.

06:05:36.060 Little baddy baddy.

06:05:37.860 Oh.

06:05:38.680 Who's that?

06:05:39.780 Okay.

06:05:40.340 One of my friends.

06:05:41.640 Oh.

06:05:42.600 Okay.

06:05:43.540 All right.

06:05:44.280 And then wait.

06:05:45.640 What?

06:05:46.000 So, Nick, click the picture with the dog.

06:05:48.620 Aw.

06:05:49.900 That's right.

06:05:50.780 Okay.

06:05:51.280 That's really cute.

06:05:52.320 Three months before COVID.

06:05:53.940 All right.

06:05:54.300 X out of that.

06:05:56.420 And scroll back up.

06:05:58.400 Pale and well met.

06:05:59.620 Aw, bro.

06:06:00.140 Well, paladins donated $100 and two cents.

06:06:03.500 Thank you, man.

06:06:03.880 How am I supposed to compete with these past experiences?

06:06:08.320 This is what men mean by younger women have less baggage.

06:06:11.700 I don't want to have to murder four people just to be your most exciting partner.

06:06:16.840 Anna, your response?

06:06:18.620 Um, I feel like somebody else could be more exciting because they haven't, like, attempted

06:06:24.160 a murder four people.

06:06:26.060 Like, it's not really a flex.

06:06:29.660 Like, that's not cool.

06:06:30.700 That's fair.

06:06:32.160 Pull it back up, Nick.

06:06:33.080 Just scroll all the way to the bottom again, please.

06:06:36.660 Okay.

06:06:37.120 Exile that.

06:06:38.640 Okay.

06:06:39.220 And then scroll all the way up.

06:06:40.400 And then, like, so what happened?

06:06:44.320 Like, here's this wholesome photo with a dog.

06:06:47.400 I went to college.

06:06:48.400 You went to college.

06:06:49.840 Yeah.

06:06:50.080 Look at what happens, boys.

06:06:51.720 I came to Santa Barbara.

06:06:54.920 Wait, are you in an, are you at a Halloween party in an office, empty, like the back rooms?

06:07:00.900 Click on that photo.

06:07:01.900 What is that?

06:07:02.240 The fucking back rooms?

06:07:03.520 No, it's the dorms.

06:07:04.520 This is such a liminal, like, I mean, remove you.

06:07:07.160 It's kind of liminal.

06:07:08.060 It's on a pool table at the door.

06:07:09.560 Oh, it's a pool table.

06:07:10.300 I thought it was the floor.

06:07:11.620 Oh, I did too.

06:07:12.440 I was like, why is there green carpet, moldy, wet carpet?

06:07:16.420 Okay, whatever.

06:07:17.480 I didn't see that.

06:07:18.320 Whatever.

06:07:18.520 So, what happened between wholesome dog photo in a sweater to, like, here I am standing

06:07:27.780 on a pool table in a dorm room?

06:07:30.580 What happened?

06:07:31.580 What happened, Anna?

06:07:32.560 We're concerned.

06:07:33.180 What happened, I moved out of my parents' house, came to Santa Barbara.

06:07:38.040 Yep.

06:07:38.260 UCSB's a crazy place.

06:07:39.360 UCSB, very crazy.

06:07:40.280 Some trauma in there.

06:07:41.520 Throw a little dating trauma.

06:07:43.420 Went to college.

06:07:44.420 Yeah.

06:07:45.700 Many such cases, many such.

06:07:47.640 Brian, we have to actually go.

06:07:49.920 I'm so sorry.

06:07:51.020 I accept your apology.

06:07:53.620 I accept your apology.

06:07:54.660 Thank you, guys.

06:07:55.040 No, but you were the best.

06:07:56.960 You're like the best panelist we've ever had.

06:07:59.120 You're the best.

06:07:59.880 You can stay for another 30 minutes while we wrap the show up.

06:08:02.940 We're almost done.

06:08:03.920 We're almost done.

06:08:05.040 Listen, don't you guys.

06:08:05.780 Well, it's giving me the ick.

06:08:06.980 If you leave, it's going to give me the ick.

06:08:08.440 If you guys leave, it gives me the ick.

06:08:09.940 I need another shot.

06:08:11.260 Get this girl.

06:08:12.080 Okay, yeah.

06:08:12.460 Take another shot.

06:08:13.300 30 minutes.

06:08:13.640 Get her some alcohol.

06:08:14.880 Get her some alcohol.

06:08:15.760 Listen, you guys are veterans.

06:08:18.300 You guys are veterans.

06:08:19.120 You know, you've stayed out, you know, until 1, 2, 3 a.m. in the morning, partying, stripping,

06:08:25.860 taking your clothes off, getting dollar bills thrown at you.

06:08:29.700 You guys can handle.

06:08:31.100 You guys got this.

06:08:32.380 This is amateur hour for you guys.

06:08:34.460 You guys are fine.

06:08:36.040 You guys are fine.

06:08:38.600 You'll do great.

06:08:40.600 Just, uh, listen.

06:08:44.000 If you're dozing off while you're driving home.

06:08:48.600 You've got like 15 more minutes than me, I swear.

06:08:50.640 Just make sure you, uh.

06:08:52.560 Take a bunch.

06:08:52.900 Yeah, I know.

06:08:53.340 30 minutes.

06:08:54.100 Yeah, yeah.

06:08:54.560 No problem.

06:08:55.200 30 minutes.

06:08:55.360 40 minutes.

06:08:56.220 Like 15.

06:08:56.900 Like 50 minutes.

06:08:57.520 No big deal.

06:08:58.340 All right, all right, all right.

06:08:59.160 So 45 minutes and we'll split the difference at 30.

06:09:02.060 That sounds fair.

06:09:03.140 Yeah.

06:09:03.580 See?

06:09:03.840 No worries.

06:09:04.200 This is why.

06:09:06.840 Why?

06:09:07.820 Anand donated $100 to threesome girl.

06:09:11.960 So you say girl on girl sexual experiences are okay, but guy on guy not okay.

06:09:17.600 Oh my God.

06:09:18.680 Please explain how that makes sense.

06:09:20.660 Sounds wildly hypocritical.

06:09:22.940 Okay.

06:09:23.200 Call me a hypocrite.

06:09:24.320 This is what Andrew was kind of trying to get at a little bit.

06:09:27.600 Yeah.

06:09:27.920 Sort of, maybe.

06:09:28.560 But, uh, yeah, it's just.

06:09:31.760 Uh, no, I just, I don't, I mean, call me hypocritical then.

06:09:36.480 I don't know how you could not see that there's a difference between girl on girl and guy on guy.

06:09:40.420 Wow.

06:09:41.880 I don't.

06:09:43.080 And you've never actually made the delineation for me except, like, you just perceive it differently.

06:09:48.220 That's it.

06:09:48.800 And get her some booze.

06:09:50.480 I mean, do you guys think there's a difference between girl on girl and guy on guy?

06:09:55.660 You know what?

06:09:56.060 I'll actually, yes, I agree.

06:09:57.680 Okay.

06:09:57.920 I agree.

06:09:59.520 Thank you.

06:10:01.680 Vector donated $100.

06:10:04.400 I am a 38-year-old virgin.

06:10:07.060 Yes, we do exist.

06:10:09.300 However, because of this society that has no concrete morals or values, I do not have virgin eyes.

06:10:16.060 My eyes lost their virginity when I was a kid.

06:10:19.200 Abdul.

06:10:19.520 Yeah, that brings up a great point, Vector, that we should get into sometime in a future show.

06:10:25.660 The idea of even if you are a virgin, if society is showing you nonstop corn and every vice, does that still rattle in your brain?

06:10:35.840 I think that that's actually a pretty good topic.

06:10:38.900 That you want to speak on?

06:10:44.260 Well, I was saying maybe in a future show.

06:10:49.060 Oh, okay, yeah.

06:10:50.100 I'm just trying to respond to the super chat, Brian.

06:10:52.560 Of course.

06:10:53.140 No, do me.

06:10:54.340 But, yeah, well, I do think that the idea that what he's alluding to is, okay, yeah, I'm a virgin, but so what?

06:11:05.060 I've seen every sexual position on planet Earth 80 times that that can ultimately still fuck you up, even if you keep your chastity intact.

06:11:13.480 I think that that is an issue in modernity that should probably be addressed.

06:11:18.100 Yeah.

06:11:19.840 That's all I'm saying.

06:11:21.080 It's beautiful.

06:11:22.560 It's beautiful.

06:11:25.000 So, any disagreements from anybody else at the table?

06:11:29.200 Any?

06:11:29.940 I have a disagreement with you, Brian.

06:11:32.680 Okay, what's up?

06:11:33.760 I disagree with the fact that we've gone on this whole show and you have not plugged Debate University, not even one time.

06:11:38.840 My disappointment is immeasurable.

06:11:42.160 I am super upset.

06:11:46.060 That is a fantastic disagreement, Andrew.

06:11:49.320 And I'm going to actually have to, uh, what's it called in chess?

06:11:55.140 Checkmate?

06:11:55.540 Checkmate?

06:11:56.200 No.

06:11:57.060 Concede?

06:11:57.460 Concede, yeah.

06:11:58.600 No, there's another word for it.

06:12:00.520 Forfeit?

06:12:01.120 Forfeit?

06:12:02.320 Concede?

06:12:04.140 In chess?

06:12:05.460 What's the chess term for?

06:12:07.400 Checkmate.

06:12:07.600 What, stalemate?

06:12:08.560 You got stalemate, checkmate, but...

06:12:10.360 I think concede is the right word.

06:12:11.420 Is it concede?

06:12:12.840 I think so.

06:12:13.540 Is it concede?

06:12:13.800 You concede?

06:12:14.080 Let me find, I need to find, hold on.

06:12:15.960 My OCD is going to kill me.

06:12:17.820 A synonym for concede.

06:12:20.400 Synonym.

06:12:21.680 Synonym.

06:12:22.340 Surrender, yield, relinquish, seed, forfeit.

06:12:25.300 Forfeit.

06:12:26.060 Could be a forfeit.

06:12:27.300 Could be a forfeit.

06:12:28.320 I just have to forfeit this.

06:12:29.720 You're right, Andrew.

06:12:30.940 Uh, you win the argument.

06:12:32.000 Nick, pull up debateuniversity.com.

06:12:34.920 Uh, guys, you have to go to debateuniversity.com.

06:12:38.940 Verbal combat.

06:12:40.020 If you want to learn how to become a master debater, like Andrew, he's the best master debater.

06:12:45.180 He's really the best.

06:12:46.520 One of the top master debaters in the world, really.

06:12:50.160 Nobody comes close.

06:12:51.840 His technique is unparalleled.

06:12:53.800 Wait, what?

06:12:54.800 Anyways, uh, guys, you got to get the course, verbal combat, debateuniversity.com.

06:13:01.300 Listen, guys, holidays are coming up.

06:13:03.720 You got Thanksgiving.

06:13:05.240 You got Halloween.

06:13:06.200 You got Christmas.

06:13:07.340 You know you're going to be arguing with your liberal family members at the dinner table.

06:13:11.600 You got to fucking buy this course if you want to fucking catch some W's at the dinner table and piss off your whole family for six months.

06:13:20.040 You absolutely have to.

06:13:21.700 It's coming.

06:13:22.200 You know, the holidays are right around the corner.

06:13:23.900 Right around the corner.

06:13:24.360 You know, your scumbag in-laws are going to come in.

06:13:26.380 You know they're all going to be progressive pieces of shit.

06:13:28.540 That's just the way it works, especially if you're out on the West Coast.

06:13:31.400 Must get the course immediately.

06:13:34.720 That's some shameless plugging, by the way, brought to you by Andrew Wilson and the Whatever Podcast.

06:13:43.320 Buy the course.

06:13:44.120 You won't regret it.

06:13:45.260 Tons of great feedback so far.

06:13:46.960 People seem to really enjoy the content.

06:13:49.200 We worked extremely hard on it.

06:13:51.580 And, yeah.

06:13:52.440 TTS is $30, by the way.

06:13:54.860 But debateuniversity.com, gentlemen.

06:13:58.480 Debateuniversity.com.

06:13:59.500 You got to check it out.

06:14:03.940 Resign.

06:14:05.120 Resign.

06:14:05.600 Thank you.

06:14:06.120 Resign.

06:14:07.260 That's it.

06:14:08.280 It is resign.

06:14:09.000 Guys, TTS is $30.

06:14:10.780 Roast.

06:14:11.300 We're going to do a roast session.

06:14:12.460 We're going to do a new react.

06:14:14.380 Yeah, we'll do it.

06:14:15.140 Nick, can you pull up Twitch?

06:14:16.860 Guys, also, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.

06:14:19.200 Drop us a follow in the Prime sub if you have one.

06:14:21.040 Twitch.tv slash whatever.

06:14:22.500 Drop us a follow in the Prime sub if you have one.

06:14:25.360 Guys, it's been 15 minutes since we last had a Prime.

06:14:28.560 Maddie is very upset by this.

06:14:30.520 She thinks it.

06:14:31.160 I think it's bugged.

06:14:32.040 Help.

06:14:34.400 Help.

06:14:34.980 Andrew said it like me.

06:14:37.180 Guys, follow.

06:14:38.380 Prime sub.

06:14:38.820 Oh, what the hell?

06:14:41.340 Why didn't it?

06:14:42.760 Wait, what?

06:14:44.380 Why is it not?

06:14:46.740 Oh, hold on.

06:14:48.560 I'll re-trigger it.

06:14:49.640 My bad, bro.

06:14:50.740 My bad, bro.

06:14:51.860 I got you.

06:14:52.640 Okay.

06:14:53.440 I'll get it re-triggered.

06:14:54.640 My apologies.

06:14:56.760 TTS is $30.

06:14:57.860 TTS is $30.

06:14:58.800 If you guys want to get it in, Yochoba Muffin, thank you for the sub, man.

06:15:02.900 Appreciate it.

06:15:03.640 Thank you.

06:15:04.180 Very nice of you.

06:15:05.980 Couldn't let that one come through.

06:15:07.040 Roth underscore PSA donated $30.

06:15:10.240 The difference between girl on girl and guy on guy is it doesn't count toward body count if it's not a real phallus.

06:15:17.460 Ew, I got the ick.

06:15:19.100 Watched the live last night.

06:15:20.600 What's wrong in SB?

06:15:23.500 Ah, that's a good question.

06:15:25.220 A lot.

06:15:26.240 Honestly, I was thinking, I don't know if this would be good content, but even if we just sent out someone to film,

06:15:33.800 and it would be called documenting degeneracy, and just like not even doing street interviews, just documenting it.

06:15:43.440 So you're just walking around and seeing the actual degeneracy.

06:15:47.560 Giovanni J.D. donated $30.

06:15:49.840 Ah, shit.

06:15:50.220 I'm a conservative trumper, but I'm pro cuckoldry.

06:15:53.400 I was pursuing an 18-year-old.

06:15:55.620 Young enough to shove my son in a locker, but I subject him to public humiliation instead, so conservative.

06:16:01.940 Damn.

06:16:02.520 Thank you.

06:16:02.860 You're going to have to abdicate the throne on the super chat angle there, Giovanni.

06:16:07.940 I think you're getting beaten by killer of cereal, to be honest with you.

06:16:18.040 Word?

06:16:19.560 Curtis underscore Leon underscore donated $30.

06:16:23.440 To Jabba the Hutt in the whatever hoodie, I see you upgraded to the XXXL hoodie.

06:16:28.780 Pretty soon people will have to pack a lunch to walk around you.

06:16:32.640 Have you applied for your own zip code yet?

06:16:35.080 Yo, I need to lose weight.

06:16:38.200 You're fucking right, dude.

06:16:40.040 But Curtis Leon, this guy, this guy is crazy, dude.

06:16:43.700 He's crazy.

06:16:44.520 First off, I have not upgraded this.

06:16:46.960 It's the same size.

06:16:49.260 It's the same one.

06:16:50.300 I haven't changed.

06:16:52.380 But yeah.

06:16:53.280 And are you going to go on your weight loss journey?

06:16:56.380 Yes, I am.

06:16:59.120 I'm on my weight loss journey as well.

06:17:02.380 Join it with me.

06:17:03.340 As long as we do it together, Andrew.

06:17:05.620 Join, I'll join you on your journey.

06:17:07.240 Join in.

06:17:07.640 Gross pygmy Maddie donated $30.

06:17:10.480 Help.

06:17:11.940 What is a, what is, what's a pygmy?

06:17:15.560 Wait, what is a pygmy?

06:17:16.300 A smaller version of something like a pygmy goat is a smaller goat.

06:17:19.440 Oh.

06:17:20.460 Pygmy hippos.

06:17:21.620 Like a mini hippo.

06:17:22.920 It's a mini Madison.

06:17:25.400 A miniature Madison.

06:17:26.860 Oh, is it the baby?

06:17:28.480 They are talking about you.

06:17:30.040 Guys, you need to roast the shit out of Madison.

06:17:32.200 She got a little too confident during the IRL stream, which reminds me, guys, go.

06:17:37.940 You got very, you were very, you know, very whatever.

06:17:41.720 Guys, go to our Discord because we had to take down the IRL live stream that we did on Friday.

06:17:48.360 Discord.gg slash whatever.

06:17:49.840 Look, you see that dude in the pink polo, man, this fucking kid, this fucking guy.

06:17:56.180 I'm telling you, we had to take the whole fucking stream down because this fucking guy had to say some bullshit.

06:18:03.860 You understand?

06:18:05.300 Very upsetting.

06:18:06.840 Very, I was very upset.

06:18:08.260 But, and by the way, Morgan.

06:18:11.020 Sons of Liberty donated $30.

06:18:13.840 Kamala is a Marxist and 304.

06:18:17.040 Vote Liberty.

06:18:18.160 Say not to socialism.

06:18:19.820 Trump 2024.

06:18:21.440 Woo.

06:18:22.040 Thank you, Sons of Liberty.

06:18:23.240 But going back to the Discord, this fucking guy, we had to take the stream down.

06:18:27.440 We had to delete the stream.

06:18:28.980 It's been nuked off the internet because of what this fucking guy said.

06:18:34.100 Hillary Epstein donated $30.

06:18:35.000 So go join Discord.gg slash whatever.

06:18:36.820 Join that show.

06:18:37.080 W. Andrew.

06:18:38.160 W. Brian.

06:18:39.260 W. Maddie.

06:18:40.320 Thanks for the show.

06:18:41.620 Blame Desmond.

06:18:42.200 Blue white dress for the sake of your son.

06:18:44.800 His imagination is going to kill his view of you more than admitting it.

06:18:48.860 I mean, he watches Tate, too.

06:18:52.240 Does he watch?

06:18:53.380 Yeah, he does.

06:18:53.920 He loves Andrew Tate.

06:18:56.080 Oh.

06:18:57.080 Wait.

06:18:58.420 He does.

06:18:59.740 But my sister had a problem with that because she's.

06:19:03.140 Future host of the whatever podcast.

06:19:05.920 Your son.

06:19:08.240 Pass it down.

06:19:09.720 Anyways, my sister was like, I can't believe you let him watch.

06:19:12.980 Stochastic Decay donated $30.

06:19:15.660 Hey, Brain.

06:19:16.500 Brain.

06:19:17.100 Sorry I'm late.

06:19:18.340 Hello.

06:19:18.620 Long day.

06:19:19.800 As you know, I work for Twitch.

06:19:21.380 We keep getting support tickets saying it's bug boys.

06:19:25.180 We're working around the clock to resolve the issue.

06:19:28.540 Thank you.

06:19:29.020 Anyway, good show.

06:19:31.500 Well, then can you explain why it's still bugged?

06:19:33.520 I just popped in there a few minutes ago and there still hasn't been a fucking prime sub.

06:19:38.640 I mean, Twitch support want to do something about this?

06:19:41.580 I mean, maybe somebody can prove to us that it's not bugged.

06:19:45.100 I don't know.

06:19:45.360 That would be helpful, you know.

06:19:48.300 I think it's still bugged.

06:19:51.960 I don't know.

06:19:52.380 It's been a few minutes since one came in.

06:19:55.800 Man, I feel like, what was the other thing?

06:19:59.900 By the way, Desmond, everybody in the chat was saying that the IRL stream, everything that went wrong was your fault.

06:20:06.860 They're stupid.

06:20:07.560 It was your fault.

06:20:10.860 How?

06:20:11.880 It's just your fault.

06:20:13.640 Oh, okay.

06:20:15.660 Uh, so...

06:20:17.400 The IRL stream was bugged, boys.

06:20:19.740 It was bugged.

06:20:20.560 The IRL stream was bugged.

06:20:22.700 Double agent donated $30.

06:20:25.680 A twist to the man or bear question.

06:20:28.220 Your home and apartment is being raided by criminal gangs from Venezuela.

06:20:32.780 Who do you run to protect you?

06:20:34.840 Trump or Kamala?

06:20:36.440 Trump.

06:20:37.560 Trump.

06:20:38.380 Trump.

06:20:39.080 Kamala!

06:20:42.960 Who, yeah, who's, uh, Anna?

06:20:45.940 Trump?

06:20:46.780 Trump.

06:20:47.700 Who?

06:20:48.900 I don't know politics.

06:20:50.420 I'm sorry.

06:20:50.960 Honestly, neither.

06:20:52.600 Okay.

06:20:53.080 All right.

06:20:53.720 Sorry.

06:20:54.660 Uh, okay.

06:20:55.940 All right.

06:20:57.600 Four.

06:20:59.140 Mozart Spaghetti donated $30.

06:21:01.760 Mozart's Bugatti.

06:21:02.160 City girls are cooked goodnight.

06:21:04.320 Scroll back here, taking 20 shots.

06:21:10.280 It's gonna miss the whole roast.

06:21:11.600 You gotta come back.

06:21:12.380 You're gonna miss the whole roast section.

06:21:16.540 I don't think we've ever had a girl leave the studio to get alcohol.

06:21:20.080 And come back.

06:21:21.340 Don't we have alcohol, too?

06:21:22.540 Why are you painting me as an alcoholic?

06:21:26.580 There's seltzers in the...

06:21:28.100 I would never paint you as an alcoholic.

06:21:30.420 I would never...

06:21:31.420 That's the one who's been taking little shots without us, Andrew.

06:21:33.640 I might be bugged.

06:21:34.700 I think I'm bugged, boys.

06:21:37.080 Please send help.

06:21:39.200 Don't get...

06:21:39.480 Don't get mad at me because I planned ahead, okay?

06:21:42.680 I didn't think he was naked, but I didn't know...

06:21:45.300 You've donated $30.

06:21:47.900 You embracing threesomes tells your son that it is okay.

06:21:51.800 Oh, my God.

06:21:52.320 They're still on you?

06:21:53.220 It's crazy.

06:21:53.420 He won't respect women all because of your past trauma given by some man.

06:21:58.220 The biological argument is a cop-out.

06:22:00.960 Respect yourself.

06:22:01.880 You know what?

06:22:03.000 Just tell your son that I will...

06:22:05.560 Don't watch the podcast.

06:22:07.180 He already watches it.

06:22:08.760 I will pass the torch on to him when he comes of age.

06:22:14.280 Wow.

06:22:14.580 He would be so stoked.

06:22:15.720 You need to tell him that he's going to be the new host.

06:22:19.300 Throw me a donated $30.

06:22:20.520 He's going to be the new host of whatever podcast.

06:22:21.920 I could fix the MILF, but I'd rather spend time with my dog, F. Comerla.

06:22:26.340 I took some MILF.

06:22:28.380 Thank you, JJ.

06:22:29.320 Appreciate it, man.

06:22:29.920 What is that?

06:22:36.140 What is a Comerla?

06:22:37.800 It sounds like a...

06:22:38.620 Comala.

06:22:39.220 It's Comala Harris.

06:22:41.020 He said F.

06:22:41.680 Comala.

06:22:42.500 Comerla.

06:22:45.340 Comara.

06:22:46.820 Comara.

06:22:47.440 Comara.

06:22:48.640 They roast us as much as they'll roast you, believe me.

06:22:52.040 They're not nice to us either, this chat.

06:22:54.560 Oh, boy.

06:22:56.320 Any disagreements from anybody?

06:22:58.000 Maybe you've seen the show before and you're like, I disagree with this, but we haven't

06:23:01.540 talked about it yet.

06:23:02.380 I definitely went downstairs to get the alcohol, right?

06:23:04.400 Because it was right there.

06:23:05.380 And tell me why.

06:23:06.140 Bro.

06:23:06.780 Okay.

06:23:08.020 Go ahead.

06:23:08.580 Go ahead.

06:23:08.980 Okay.

06:23:09.720 Never mind.

06:23:10.040 No, no, no.

06:23:10.360 Say your shit, but...

06:23:11.420 Okay.

06:23:11.720 Go ahead.

06:23:13.100 Oh, I'm sorry.

06:23:14.740 Just don't fucking...

06:23:16.180 Oh, my God.

06:23:16.660 You're like an asshole.

06:23:17.540 I'm sorry.

06:23:19.000 I'm sorry.

06:23:20.360 You got it.

06:23:21.540 Okay.

06:23:21.840 Go ahead.

06:23:22.260 Go ahead.

06:23:22.960 It's a disregard.

06:23:24.640 What's it about?

06:23:25.820 Nothing.

06:23:27.560 It was a disagreement.

06:23:29.200 It was about the show?

06:23:31.000 Oh, no.

06:23:32.560 Yeah.

06:23:32.800 That was the fucking question.

06:23:34.380 Okay.

06:23:34.800 Stop yelling.

06:23:37.920 I disagree with your attitude sometimes.

06:23:40.060 I think you have a low temper sometimes, and it's not that deep.

06:23:47.860 It's up here?

06:23:48.740 You need to get down here.

06:23:51.320 Let's talk about it.

06:23:55.060 It's actually true.

06:23:56.020 I do have a temper.

06:23:57.160 I can tell.

06:23:59.960 Well, I mean, wouldn't you have a temper, too, if you were surrounded by stupid people all

06:24:03.900 the time?

06:24:04.580 Like, wouldn't that give you...

06:24:05.780 100%.

06:24:06.260 Yeah.

06:24:06.360 Like, wouldn't that be kind of aggravating?

06:24:08.640 And you're just, like, surrounded all the time by a bunch of dumb, low-IQ fucking retards?

06:24:14.320 Like, wouldn't that actually make you upset a little bit?

06:24:16.800 It would make me upset if I was around a bunch of dumb, stupid people.

06:24:20.260 So are we...

06:24:20.760 Oh, what's he talking about at us?

06:24:24.880 Yeah.

06:24:25.500 That's what he's implying.

06:24:26.580 Church underscore of underscore Scientology donated $30.

06:24:30.780 Orange top, not worth a hot pocket, which is probably the only nickname you've ever had.

06:24:36.300 Single mom more lonely than Tom Hanks after Wilson left.

06:24:40.660 Jeans jacket keeping world hunger relevant.

06:24:46.000 Whoa.

06:24:47.040 Damn.

06:24:48.840 I would be upset if I hung around dumb people, too.

06:24:53.460 I actually was having this conversation.

06:24:55.780 That wasn't a shot at you.

06:24:57.560 Like, you're the smartest person on the panel.

06:24:59.060 But I'm not the prettiest?

06:25:03.320 Absolutely not under your circumstances.

06:25:06.140 That's probably why you're the smartest.

06:25:08.760 You ain't shit.

06:25:11.700 That's what they said, that you were an asshole, first of all.

06:25:14.640 That's what I was going to say before.

06:25:16.420 It was, like, disregard.

06:25:17.520 You're an asshole.

06:25:18.720 We had the best conversations of everybody the whole night.

06:25:21.540 We have.

06:25:22.180 This has been great.

06:25:22.820 Yeah.

06:25:23.120 It's been beautiful.

06:25:23.900 I love it.

06:25:24.400 You made me realize you humbled me.

06:25:28.020 I'm humbled in your humility.

06:25:31.060 Wait.

06:25:31.500 I do have a bone to pick with Andy.

06:25:33.640 My Andrew over there.

06:25:34.960 What you got?

06:25:36.300 Just the cat lady thing.

06:25:37.640 Why do people always bring up the cats, man?

06:25:39.600 I love cats.

06:25:40.640 It's so unoriginal.

06:25:41.580 I feel like you're better than that.

06:25:43.480 I love cats.

06:25:44.360 Like, what the hell?

06:25:45.180 I didn't actually call you a cat lady.

06:25:47.300 I know.

06:25:47.600 No, but the reason that this is brought up often is because there is a true trope to

06:25:54.040 the kind of, I'm 35, 45, 55, and I really can't deliver children to men anymore, and so

06:26:04.000 the only thing they really find me useful for is have sex with them.

06:26:05.520 Old man Marine donated $30.

06:26:07.640 The evil one named Lauren.

06:26:10.260 Lower your effing standards.

06:26:12.420 You really think you'll find all those attributes in someone and also be a millionaire?

06:26:16.680 Get some cats.

06:26:18.080 Oh, my God.

06:26:18.880 You're hopeless.

06:26:19.480 Just proved it.

06:26:20.820 Hillary Epstein donated $30.

06:26:23.920 Maddie wins the prettiest, still a seven-eighths.

06:26:28.280 Seven-eighths is crazy.

06:26:30.400 So essentially what happens is they all think they're immune to it.

06:26:32.980 That won't be me, right?

06:26:34.440 I'll be the one who beats the wall, but the wall has never been defeated, ever, and will

06:26:39.660 never be defeated.

06:26:40.880 And so what happens when you meet the wall, you crash into the wall, and you get destroyed

06:26:47.020 by the wall, is you usually end up having to give the maternal time and energy that you

06:26:53.660 would have spent on children towards something, and so you get fucking cats or, like, those

06:26:57.200 little stupid yippy purse dogs that everybody hates and are super annoying.

06:27:02.240 They're either chihuahuas or there's some kind of, like, little white furry poodle of some

06:27:06.820 kind, and you just instantly loathe them the second you see them, they usually end up getting

06:27:12.460 something like that.

06:27:13.960 That's why the stereotype exists.

06:27:15.560 There's a lot of truth in the stereotype.

06:27:17.860 All right.

06:27:19.280 Can I ask Lauren a question?

06:27:22.120 Yeah, of course.

06:27:22.840 Okay.

06:27:24.220 No, I just think it's so wild that some women don't want to have kids and, like, have a

06:27:30.360 family and be in a relationship.

06:27:32.040 Like, I feel like I always wanted to be a mom since I was a little girl, and, like, having

06:27:36.440 kids and especially being in that long-term relationship when I was young and, like, having

06:27:40.660 a family was, like, the most fulfilling experience of my life.

06:27:43.040 I just, if I didn't have, if I hadn't had that experience, I would feel really, I don't

06:27:50.060 know, I'd feel useless as a woman.

06:27:52.840 Yeah.

06:27:53.120 So you're useless.

06:27:54.200 I am useless.

06:27:55.080 I would feel that way.

06:27:56.260 I understand.

06:27:57.160 I just want to know your perspective and, like, how do you find fulfillment?

06:28:00.240 Well, for me, I think it's, like, another preference.

06:28:04.200 I mean, I just, I know that I've never wanted to be a mom, an only child, didn't grow up

06:28:08.040 around kids.

06:28:08.940 I wasn't around younger kids a lot, and I just need to...

06:28:11.940 Do you have outfits for your cats?

06:28:14.600 Yeah.

06:28:15.040 Like, tell the truth.

06:28:15.900 Do you have outfits for your cats?

06:28:18.380 They are hairless cats.

06:28:19.780 What are the names of them?

06:28:20.480 Oh, my God.

06:28:21.360 I like you, like, ten times more.

06:28:22.700 Do you have outfits for your cats?

06:28:25.100 I do have little black hoodies for them.

06:28:27.040 Yeah, I knew it.

06:28:28.020 But they don't like them.

06:28:29.120 They like to be naked.

06:28:30.240 They like to be naked.

06:28:31.080 It's very disappointing.

06:28:31.640 I want...

06:28:32.280 Wait.

06:28:33.600 Hold on.

06:28:34.220 I have a couple questions here.

06:28:35.440 I have three things.

06:28:36.200 I want to really quickly address the temper thing.

06:28:39.480 Oh, my God.

06:28:40.900 See?

06:28:41.520 He has time to think about it.

06:28:42.520 So, I was thinking about this the other day.

06:28:44.180 You have to piss me off, Brian.

06:28:46.440 I was thinking about this the other day, and it's, like, I'm self-aware.

06:28:49.840 I'm, like, yeah, I anger easily.

06:28:52.320 But I think that, like, I, see, I get angry easy, but it's a very low level of anger that

06:29:01.240 just seethes.

06:29:02.540 But it's never, like, I'm going to punch a hole in the wall.

06:29:05.020 Like, I would never, like, it never would get to the level of, like, okay, I'm so frustrated

06:29:09.840 I'm going to punch a hole in the fucking wall or, like, attack somebody.

06:29:12.940 It's just, like, this low level, like, probably going to have a stroke early in life, aneurysm,

06:29:21.600 high blood pressure, anger.

06:29:23.380 But not, like, I'm going to violently attack somebody, anger.

06:29:26.840 Not, like, punch a hole in the wall, anger.

06:29:28.820 It's just that low seething, like, fuck, I don't like people, anger, you know?

06:29:33.720 You literally walked away with a rat as fuck.

06:29:35.620 Do you know what I mean, Andrew?

06:29:36.840 Do you know what I mean?

06:29:37.420 Well, do you do the thing where if you get cut off in traffic, you grab, like, a little

06:29:41.760 hammer next to you and start hitting your dash and shit like that?

06:29:44.800 Because you just, you just get so upset.

06:29:47.520 But you're not going to, you're not going to do anything.

06:29:49.200 You just, like, you just get so upset, you just start bashing the dash with the hammer.

06:29:52.260 GMD Jim donated $30.

06:29:54.720 You always wanted children so you could fail at being a mother.

06:29:58.680 Stop calling yourself conservative.

06:30:02.080 I'm not, it doesn't affect me.

06:30:03.180 I actually, like, my children are super well-rounded.

06:30:08.060 My daughters are, I'm so proud of them.

06:30:09.480 And they're super driven.

06:30:11.900 They don't dress like tramps.

06:30:13.360 They've got, they're in beautiful relationships.

06:30:16.560 Wait.

06:30:16.820 Wait.

06:30:17.460 Dude.

06:30:18.720 When, she, she, she goes to college?

06:30:21.260 No, yeah.

06:30:22.040 For her first year.

06:30:22.260 When, when does she turn 18?

06:30:23.660 September 25th.

06:30:24.600 We should do mother-daughter episode.

06:30:26.060 No.

06:30:26.620 Oh, that would be good.

06:30:28.280 Well, actually.

06:30:28.820 Mother-daughter.

06:30:29.360 Maybe.

06:30:29.740 If she's okay with it.

06:30:31.080 But not her son?

06:30:32.040 If her boyfriend is okay with it, too.

06:30:33.680 Well, she's, you gotta be, like, over 18 to come on the show.

06:30:35.840 If her boyfriend is okay with it, too.

06:30:37.100 Oh, right.

06:30:37.360 If her boyfriend is okay with it?

06:30:38.380 If, if he's okay.

06:30:39.140 If he's okay with it.

06:30:39.580 I mean, she would have to run it by him, as well.

06:30:41.680 But, and we'd have to, I would have to talk to you.

06:30:43.340 We'll do, we'll do mother-daughter.

06:30:44.120 Wait, chat.

06:30:44.860 Chat.

06:30:45.380 Yes, do you want to see mother-daughter episode?

06:30:47.980 We, I've been trying to make it happen.

06:30:50.160 It's been hard.

06:30:51.340 But we, I would really have to discuss with you previously, like, what the outline is

06:30:55.540 going to be like.

06:30:55.680 I agree.

06:30:56.520 We definitely should not talk about.

06:30:59.060 LGBTQ community.

06:31:02.200 Stripping.

06:31:03.020 Certain things.

06:31:03.580 I'm open to it.

06:31:05.080 She's open.

06:31:05.520 Oh, man, Maureen donated $30.

06:31:07.280 We have to discuss.

06:31:08.000 Oh, and you don't want to have kids.

06:31:10.600 Well, Lauren, you're done.

06:31:11.800 My people will talk to her.

06:31:12.580 You will be single forever.

06:31:14.200 Get rid of your cats and you might find a man.

06:31:17.200 Get rid of your cats.

06:31:17.580 You're six at best.

06:31:19.380 Hang on.

06:31:20.000 Roasted.

06:31:20.840 Well.

06:31:21.220 Hang on.

06:31:21.520 Didn't I point out, and it held true in this panel, that all the Laurens are crazy?

06:31:26.580 Yes.

06:31:27.300 I think horseback's better easy.

06:31:28.820 Hillary Epstein donated $30.

06:31:31.660 Oh, my God.

06:31:32.440 When she is 18, will she strip two?

06:31:34.620 But you didn't strip, did you?

06:31:34.980 Or do you discuss and warn her about it?

06:31:37.380 I was 18 to 20.

06:31:38.440 Oh, fuck.

06:31:39.200 My kids dad made me do it.

06:31:41.640 No, she would not do that.

06:31:44.040 She's super successful with all of her jobs that she has and her major.

06:31:49.820 She, I would totally discuss that with her, and she feels open enough to talk to me about

06:31:57.000 that, but that's not something, she understands the circumstance that I was in at the time.

06:32:01.260 It's not something that I think is glorified.

06:32:03.600 Definitely, I don't glorify it at all.

06:32:06.980 Have you been open and honest?

06:32:08.220 Have you been open and honest with her about the situation?

06:32:10.640 With her.

06:32:12.020 Okay.

06:32:12.420 That's cool.

06:32:13.180 Wait, can I finish responding to Nancy's question?

06:32:14.920 Yeah, please.

06:32:16.500 So, I feel like I love good moms.

06:32:19.980 I respect good moms.

06:32:20.880 Like, I know so many of them.

06:32:22.380 I just know for me, like, it's just something that I've never wanted.

06:32:25.400 And I do feel like it's not a requirement to being a woman.

06:32:30.300 I think it's just, you know, it's just a personal choice.

06:32:34.660 It's just, if you know it's not for you, I think it's wise to not have kids if that's

06:32:39.760 not what you want.

06:32:40.320 I agree.

06:32:40.820 But what do you find fulfillment in, is what I was asking.

06:32:43.080 I find fulfillment in other relationships, like friendships, just enriching life experiences.

06:32:49.120 Old man Marine donated $30.

06:32:51.960 Literally just met a Lauren at the bar the other night.

06:32:55.140 She tried giving me her number when her boyfriend was in the bathroom.

06:32:59.520 Lauren's are the worst.

06:33:00.780 Oh, come on.

06:33:01.740 We're not all bad.

06:33:04.240 They're the worst.

06:33:05.440 They're the worst.

06:33:06.040 They're always the worst.

06:33:07.340 Oh, man.

06:33:07.940 I've never heard.

06:33:08.480 I literally, I think Lauren's are really cool.

06:33:09.880 I think I lost my virginity to a Lauren.

06:33:12.340 Really?

06:33:12.920 And what's it?

06:33:13.500 Was she the worst, Brian?

06:33:15.000 Was she just awful?

06:33:15.860 Wait, no, I think it was a Chris.

06:33:18.460 I did not remember.

06:33:19.720 Back to your bad temper.

06:33:20.960 You wanted to ask a question about it.

06:33:22.600 What was the question?

06:33:23.120 I think I already addressed it.

06:33:24.420 No, you didn't.

06:33:25.140 You just made the statement.

06:33:25.780 You're like, I know, like I get really mad.

06:33:27.860 No, I think I said, I'm just saying, it's like.

06:33:30.380 Well, you didn't get as mad as you.

06:33:31.940 You had to go get liquor in order to placate yourself from your seat.

06:33:35.380 I wasn't mad.

06:33:36.500 I wasn't mad.

06:33:37.420 I was on a time restraint, meaning like I wanted, my time was up and I'm here.

06:33:42.360 So fuck it.

06:33:43.900 Yeah.

06:33:44.260 I think I was just saying like, it's, it's this low level, low level seed.

06:33:52.480 It's a low level seed.

06:33:53.820 It's never like, I, like I'm going to fucking go full blown yell.

06:33:58.000 Like I'm not going to fucking like be screaming at somebody.

06:34:01.180 I'll raise my voice a little bit.

06:34:03.080 I'll be a little sassy.

06:34:04.640 Right, Nick?

06:34:06.280 But, but, but I'm not going to punch a hole in the wall.

06:34:10.820 I'm not going to hit anybody ever.

06:34:14.260 Well, it's, but can I say in Brian's defense that he's really not doing anything wrong

06:34:20.360 and that you're all just fucking awful.

06:34:22.240 Can I just, can I just like kind of throw that out there?

06:34:24.860 It's just, just, just awful.

06:34:27.120 Just awful.

06:34:29.740 Sarah was okay.

06:34:30.900 We're awful.

06:34:32.140 Thank you.

06:34:32.460 Well, no, you're okay.

06:34:33.640 It's just everybody.

06:34:34.400 Well, and you're okay too, but you don't know who I'm pointing at, but you two know that

06:34:38.060 you're all right, but everybody else, fucking awful.

06:34:40.500 Fucking awful.

06:34:41.660 Just, oh my gosh.

06:34:43.920 Fuck.

06:34:44.460 Oh my gosh.

06:34:45.680 Feelings mutual.

06:34:47.980 She just leads into it.

06:34:49.280 She's like, fuck.

06:34:54.380 Do we have reacts, Nick?

06:34:57.000 What's the other react?

06:34:57.940 Oh, it's the, uh, wait, before we pull it up, I think I know which one it is.

06:35:03.400 Are you guys in relationships?

06:35:04.940 Sons of Liberty donated $30.

06:35:07.680 The Sons of Liberty were known for using intimidation, violence, force, and fear tactics.

06:35:14.060 They also stockpiled arms, shot, and gunpowder.

06:35:18.160 Their motto was no taxation without representation.

06:35:21.940 Wow.

06:35:22.780 Uh, thank you.

06:35:23.300 Yeah, that's because it was, uh, it was really good rhetoric, but ultimately, uh,

06:35:26.960 Ripped Rich and Rare donated $30.

06:35:29.700 Fat boy and Ruby like my titties don't jiggle, jiggle, it folds.

06:35:34.720 I like to see it wiggle, wiggle, for sure.

06:35:37.940 It makes my titties want to dribble, dribble, you know.

06:35:41.780 I'll smack your fat simp titties up.

06:35:44.860 Okay.

06:35:45.900 She's overheating over here.

06:35:48.060 Damn.

06:35:49.760 Wait.

06:35:50.140 It's, uh, oh, we need a sprinkler.

06:35:53.040 Can somebody do a sprinkler?

06:35:54.440 Uh, maybe?

06:35:56.680 Yeah, exactly.

06:35:57.420 Which one of you is named Andrew?

06:35:59.140 What the fuck?

06:35:59.820 Oh.

06:36:00.880 Is that the sprinkler you were talking about?

06:36:02.480 She wanted to trim that.

06:36:03.760 I guess.

06:36:04.740 Yeah.

06:36:04.900 It's like a chopping block.

06:36:07.240 Oh, the, let's see.

06:36:08.920 I want, actually, before we get into that, uh, really quick, going back to Lauren.

06:36:13.580 Which one?

06:36:14.180 Your stand, uh, Virgin Lauren.

06:36:16.160 Yes.

06:36:16.800 Horseback right here.

06:36:17.540 Virgin Lauren.

06:36:17.820 Make that decision.

06:36:18.420 Virgin Lauren.

06:36:19.120 Is anybody else here a virgin?

06:36:23.160 Yeah.

06:36:23.980 Okay.

06:36:25.540 Okay.

06:36:26.240 Uh, your standards, right?

06:36:29.400 Yes, sir.

06:36:30.060 Can you, once again, just restate what your standards are?

06:36:34.700 Like, just give us the whole list, precise, concise.

06:36:37.840 It was long as fuck.

06:36:39.060 It wasn't your whole nut.

06:36:40.700 Listen, I took notes.

06:36:41.760 I took notes.

06:36:42.220 I said 15 minutes.

06:36:42.920 I want to go over the, hang on.

06:36:44.000 I want to go over the notes because I did take notes.

06:36:45.800 Wait, let's have you do it, though.

06:36:46.900 He has to be, he has to be a gajillionaire.

06:36:48.960 And, uh, he's also super rich.

06:36:51.300 And on top of being a super rich gajillionaire, he also has to be world traveled and learned

06:36:56.180 and very smart and have an emotional connection with you.

06:36:58.700 Did I get everything correct?

06:36:59.760 You got it.

06:37:00.360 And tan.

06:37:00.860 Just a bit.

06:37:01.680 Wait, actually.

06:37:02.920 And tan.

06:37:03.900 And tan.

06:37:04.400 And tan, tan, yeah.

06:37:05.260 Going to the other Lauren, have you ever, like, had a thing for a horse?

06:37:13.480 Ay, yo.

06:37:14.500 Oh, what?

06:37:15.380 What?

06:37:16.340 Ay, yo.

06:37:17.120 No.

06:37:17.340 What are you talking about, bro?

06:37:18.540 That's nasty.

06:37:19.440 Why are you bringing that up?

06:37:21.560 Yeah, exactly the face I'm giving you right now.

06:37:23.360 What the fuck?

06:37:23.600 What kind of fetishes are you doing?

06:37:24.220 I don't know.

06:37:24.820 I feel like we have a...

06:37:26.840 That's not real.

06:37:28.120 I can't tell if you're squinting at him or not.

06:37:30.380 I don't...

06:37:30.860 You're giving him that look.

06:37:32.460 I can't tell.

06:37:35.080 Blink once if you're safe.

06:37:37.920 Not blinking.

06:37:39.200 So, look, I'm just saying.

06:37:41.720 I don't know.

06:37:42.000 We had a girl who had a thing for dolphins on recently.

06:37:44.700 What a hug?

06:37:45.860 Yeah, that's crazy.

06:37:46.860 So, I was just curious.

06:37:47.860 I feel like girls get this, like, attraction to the animals.

06:37:53.000 Wow.

06:37:53.600 I think it's time for me to leave now.

06:37:55.320 That's good enough.

06:37:56.780 That's weird.

06:37:57.700 No.

06:37:57.940 Does that feel uncomfortable?

06:37:59.700 I feel like you're making...

06:38:00.340 That makes me uncomfortable now.

06:38:01.940 I feel like you're trying to hide something now, though.

06:38:04.360 Because, like, if it wasn't a thing, you'd just be like, nah, I've never had that.

06:38:08.440 But now that you're, like, kind of being defensive about it, I think you have a thing for a horse.

06:38:11.880 That makes me uncomfortable.

06:38:14.140 Okay.

06:38:14.980 All right.

06:38:15.420 Have you heard of a gentleman named Vosh?

06:38:18.380 Psycho donated $30.

06:38:20.960 Brian, your infatuation with giant flappy lips of the nether region is a freed king.

06:38:26.640 It's not freed.

06:38:27.460 Boom roasted.

06:38:28.040 It's not.

06:38:28.460 How dare you, Psycho?

06:38:29.520 First off, I don't...

06:38:30.620 Big labia matter.

06:38:31.440 Hashtag big labia.

06:38:32.380 I only date women with large labia.

06:38:34.660 Why are you laughing, Sarah?

06:38:35.900 You want to tell us something?

06:38:37.000 Do you have giant labia?

06:38:38.140 Is that why you're laughing?

06:38:39.300 What's...

06:38:40.100 Oh, you mean, like, giant labia?

06:38:41.940 Big labia.

06:38:43.340 Is there something you want to tell us, or...?

06:38:45.500 No.

06:38:47.260 Wouldn't that make you attractive to me?

06:38:50.720 It will, actually.

06:38:51.920 If a girl has large labia, I give her a pass on certain things.

06:38:55.760 And how do you vet for that?

06:38:56.500 And she gets, like, a point.

06:38:57.900 She'll be, like, a...

06:38:59.080 The stripping?

06:39:00.220 Huh?

06:39:01.020 The stripping.

06:39:01.800 Is that what you get past?

06:39:03.960 So, like, if she was a stripper.

06:39:06.140 Wait, what?

06:39:06.860 If she was a stripper prior.

06:39:08.560 But, like, world record Guinness...

06:39:10.920 You've got to be joking.

06:39:12.660 Big labia?

06:39:14.240 That's a labia.

06:39:15.200 No, no, no, no, no.

06:39:16.140 I'll give her a pass, maybe.

06:39:17.260 She wants to know what a labia is.

06:39:19.240 Big latipulates are what matter.

06:39:24.400 Wait, what?

06:39:24.940 When you study on...

06:39:25.600 What?

06:39:27.500 I couldn't hear you.

06:39:28.640 What did you say?

06:39:29.240 I only date women with large labia.

06:39:31.400 Like, you're bi, right?

06:39:32.920 Do you have a preference?

06:39:34.040 Like, indies or outies, right?

06:39:36.160 Um, no, not really.

06:39:37.620 I've only been with one girl.

06:39:39.220 Oh, okay.

06:39:39.520 Oh.

06:39:40.120 All right.

06:39:40.840 Hillary Epstein donated $30.

06:39:43.100 Thank you, bro.

06:39:43.720 Brian, yes, BLM, let's go.

06:39:45.840 What?

06:39:46.280 Love you.

06:39:47.160 Man titties, let's go.

06:39:48.420 Dude.

06:39:49.060 Dad bod for the WR.

06:39:50.380 Dad bod's within the standards for the current guests.

06:39:54.300 Who would date...

06:39:55.820 Tromia donated $30.

06:39:58.320 Oh, boy.

06:39:58.700 Can horses get addicted to peanut butter?

06:40:01.600 Just curious.

06:40:03.180 Also, whatever happened to 777 quintillion 777 quadrillion 777 trillion 777 billion 777 million 777 thousand 777 thousand 777?

06:40:20.520 I missed the sprinklers.

06:40:21.740 Send it in.

06:40:22.740 Thank you, JJ.

06:40:23.440 Appreciate it, man.

06:40:24.680 Would you date a guy with a dad bod?

06:40:26.600 Show, raise your show of hands.

06:40:28.640 I have.

06:40:29.600 You wouldn't...

06:40:30.080 Wait, you wouldn't date a guy with a dad...

06:40:31.640 I was gonna raise my hand.

06:40:32.360 Relax.

06:40:32.800 What are you getting excited for?

06:40:35.120 Hi.

06:40:35.400 I did.

06:40:38.340 I would.

06:40:39.180 I know I did, but I would.

06:40:40.880 I mean, what's a dad bod, actually?

06:40:42.160 Let's break it up.

06:40:43.560 A panza that has no chance.

06:40:46.100 A panza that has no chance.

06:40:48.020 I liked him.

06:40:49.400 Hold on.

06:40:49.640 I would, I guess.

06:40:51.140 Are you a dad?

06:40:51.800 He has a dad bod.

06:40:53.080 Right?

06:40:53.940 I, yeah, I guess I have a dad bod.

06:40:55.580 Would you guys agree that's a dad bod?

06:40:57.540 Like what Brian has?

06:40:58.120 Take off the sweatshirt.

06:40:59.520 I can't.

06:40:59.980 I'm gonna take off the sweatshirt.

06:41:01.760 Take off the sweatshirt.

06:41:02.760 There would have to be other really great qualities.

06:41:05.420 Okay.

06:41:06.340 Uh, Brixen's a fat...

06:41:10.420 I will fuck this studio up.

06:41:13.600 All right.

06:41:13.960 Thank you.

06:41:14.540 Okay.

06:41:15.440 All right, bro.

06:41:17.020 That's crazy.

06:41:18.000 Stay tuned.

06:41:18.800 That's crazy.

06:41:19.280 Uh, where were we?

06:41:21.360 We were talking about big labia.

06:41:23.000 Yeah.

06:41:24.040 I only date women with giant labia.

06:41:26.900 It's crazy.

06:41:29.160 It's so funny how we changed the topic like five minutes ago, but you're still thinking about it.

06:41:34.560 He's thinking about a big labia.

06:41:37.020 Uh, wait, going back to your standards, can you just list out your standards?

06:41:40.360 Oh, yeah, okay.

06:41:41.460 List them out.

06:41:42.080 Quick, though.

06:41:42.680 Rapid fire.

06:41:43.380 Emotional connection.

06:41:45.160 Damn it.

06:41:45.800 Virgin slave donated $30.

06:41:48.100 Virgin slave.

06:41:48.560 Andrew, I'll be taking your course.

06:41:51.120 I really appreciate you.

06:41:53.220 P.S.

06:41:53.520 The chick talking about smashing famous dudes.

06:41:56.540 That's not a flex.

06:41:57.860 You're just a pump and dump.

06:42:00.040 Uh-oh.

06:42:00.540 Yeah, it's not a flex, I agree.

06:42:02.460 It's not a flex.

06:42:05.020 If you know what flex is...

06:42:07.140 Do you want me to keep going?

06:42:07.920 Yeah, you can keep going.

06:42:10.020 Okay.

06:42:11.280 Strong emotional connection.

06:42:13.080 Good sense of humor.

06:42:14.940 Really, man.

06:42:15.300 Attractive, wealth and status, depth slash spiritual, healthy, fixing care of himself.

06:42:27.400 Someone who is more conservative-leaning, I would say.

06:42:31.860 Likes guns.

06:42:33.880 So no dad bods?

06:42:35.040 Tan.

06:42:35.580 I mean, a little dad bods, all right.

06:42:36.880 I just prefer someone to take care of themselves a little.

06:42:38.960 You know, I don't expect an eight-pack.

06:42:40.520 Why are you looking at me, bro?

06:42:41.420 I don't expect an eight-pack.

06:42:43.420 How much do you weigh again?

06:42:44.460 What the fuck?

06:42:45.520 I weigh 158.

06:42:47.780 158?

06:42:48.100 Mm-hmm.

06:42:48.640 I gained eight pounds this month.

06:42:50.140 Yeah.

06:42:51.240 I was like 145 in high school, bro.

06:42:53.420 What the fuck?

06:42:54.600 Like, senior year, bro.

06:42:56.180 Oh, you were scrawny?

06:42:57.420 I was on the wrestling team.

06:42:59.800 So you were scrawny?

06:43:00.340 So scrawny?

06:43:01.160 So you know how to lay them down.

06:43:02.920 Yeah.

06:43:03.740 That about covers it.

06:43:05.200 Honestly, if I could pick someone...

06:43:08.240 I don't know.

06:43:09.040 That sounds like a lot of work.

06:43:11.340 If I could pick, like, a standard...

06:43:13.960 Can you make a Google form?

06:43:14.880 Yeah.

06:43:15.460 I would say, like, someone like Aaron Rodgers is my ideal.

06:43:21.720 If I had to pick a standard...

06:43:24.000 Like, looks or just, like, a whole package?

06:43:25.720 No, the whole package.

06:43:26.080 The whole package.

06:43:26.980 Pull up Aaron Rodgers as Wikipedia.

06:43:29.900 Whole package.

06:43:30.320 You mean the football quarterback?

06:43:32.620 Yes.

06:43:33.720 Is he tan, though?

06:43:35.280 I would go.

06:43:36.260 He's tan-ish.

06:43:37.400 Tannier than me.

06:43:37.880 Everyone's tannier than me, though.

06:43:39.820 It's all good.

06:43:41.340 But these lights aren't doing me any favors.

06:43:44.340 Like, tan or, like, interracial?

06:43:45.540 Oh, yeah.

06:43:46.180 How much does he get paid?

06:43:47.680 Oh, yeah.

06:43:48.220 Can we find his salary?

06:43:50.060 Verify.

06:43:50.760 Wait, scroll down.

06:43:52.280 Aaron Rodgers.

06:43:52.740 So he's 6'2", 223 pounds.

06:43:55.540 Wow.

06:43:55.680 One of the most...

06:43:56.800 Cheeky.

06:43:57.460 Cheeky.

06:43:58.200 Oh, local.

06:43:58.700 Very successful.

06:44:01.300 Wasn't he injured this last year?

06:44:03.480 I believe so.

06:44:04.760 Like, right at the beginning of the season.

06:44:06.660 Oh, didn't he sign, like, a massive deal, too?

06:44:09.980 But not a millionaire.

06:44:10.840 What was it?

06:44:11.340 The Jets?

06:44:12.460 Yeah, a lot of Jets.

06:44:13.720 But then he got injured at the beginning of the...

06:44:15.800 Yeah.

06:44:16.300 It was too long.

06:44:17.440 Yeah, just Google his Jets salary.

06:44:21.720 I just like everything he stands for.

06:44:23.320 Wait, so Google that.

06:44:24.860 So, like, genuine question, though.

06:44:27.620 Do you, like...

06:44:29.020 Do you think, like, you have a chance?

06:44:32.340 Do I think...

06:44:32.800 I mean, we don't run in the same circles.

06:44:34.200 We don't know each other.

06:44:34.540 Let's say you did.

06:44:36.460 Do I think I have a chance?

06:44:37.160 I think so.

06:44:37.700 You have a chance with Aaron Rodgers.

06:44:38.840 Aaron Rodgers.

06:44:39.600 I mean, he's dating a Shailene...

06:44:41.300 What, what's your last name?

06:44:42.120 112 million...

06:44:42.620 Oh, you're dating somebody already.

06:44:44.400 A hundred...

06:44:44.740 Well, it doesn't matter.

06:44:45.060 No, I'm just saying what she looks like.

06:44:46.840 75 million of the contract.

06:44:48.300 Fully guaranteed.

06:44:50.540 A hundred...

06:44:51.340 A hundred...

06:44:52.220 Wow.

06:44:52.680 Three years.

06:44:53.380 Holy crap.

06:44:53.800 That was that rich people laughing here?

06:44:55.220 She's like...

06:44:55.880 Wait, but genuinely.

06:44:58.440 So, genuinely.

06:44:59.740 Yes.

06:45:00.700 Aaron Rodgers?

06:45:01.460 Like, do I think that I'm good enough?

06:45:03.240 You think you got a shot?

06:45:04.620 I don't...

06:45:05.240 I mean...

06:45:05.840 You think you got a shot?

06:45:06.280 Like I said, we don't run in the same circles.

06:45:07.900 But if you did...

06:45:08.740 But if I did...

06:45:09.300 Do you have a shot?

06:45:10.300 Yeah, I think I'm a pretty cool chick.

06:45:12.140 Yeah.

06:45:12.600 Why the heck?

06:45:14.380 Why not?

06:45:17.020 Bro, of course you...

06:45:18.600 You're holding out for, like, top tier 0.001% NFL football...

06:45:23.780 I thought it was easy.

06:45:24.460 NFL football...

06:45:25.540 Huh?

06:45:25.880 I thought you said it was easy for girls to land these type of guys.

06:45:29.080 No, no, no, no, no.

06:45:29.920 Hold on.

06:45:30.600 It's easy...

06:45:31.100 It's maybe easy to sleep with them.

06:45:33.340 That's not your goal, is it?

06:45:35.000 No.

06:45:35.520 Well...

06:45:35.820 You're...

06:45:36.700 I mean, obviously, more of a relationship.

06:45:38.340 Wait, would you fuck Aaron Rodgers on the first night?

06:45:41.980 No.

06:45:42.840 Oh, he doesn't want you.

06:45:44.020 Sorry.

06:45:45.140 Next.

06:45:47.780 I wouldn't do that.

06:45:48.440 Wait, you genuinely...

06:45:49.820 Of course these guys...

06:45:51.180 Of course you're a virgin.

06:45:52.780 You want to...

06:45:53.500 You're holding out for fucking Aaron?

06:45:55.760 Aaron Rodgers.

06:45:56.380 Well, I said someone like him.

06:45:57.460 I've never met him.

06:45:58.700 We don't, you know...

06:45:59.780 Right, so you would even reject Aaron Rodgers.

06:46:02.100 He would still have to meet your, like...

06:46:04.560 Well, do I get along with him?

06:46:05.960 And there's a personality group.

06:46:07.380 The connection would have to come first.

06:46:08.480 Bro, you think most girls are going to give a fuck about that?

06:46:10.300 He's fucking Aaron Rodgers.

06:46:11.940 I know.

06:46:12.580 Well, yeah, the connection would have to come first.

06:46:13.980 They're going to be like, I don't give a fuck about that.

06:46:15.840 I want him, no matter what.

06:46:18.220 I don't care if he treats me like shit, I still want him.

06:46:21.060 Are you willing to die a virgin?

06:46:22.720 Like, if you don't meet anybody, will you die like a...

06:46:25.660 80-year-old virgin?

06:46:26.680 Yeah.

06:46:27.060 I'm not going to settle.

06:46:27.880 I mean, I can't...

06:46:28.600 Or do you have, like, an age where you're like, you know what?

06:46:31.000 If I don't meet anybody by, like, 40, 45, I'm just going to, you know, do it.

06:46:36.000 Yeah, what's your cap age?

06:46:37.280 I don't have one because I feel like anything to me...

06:46:40.160 I mean, you can't force attraction and connection, so I'm not going to do anything with anyone

06:46:43.900 that I'm not into.

06:46:44.860 And I just feel like anything else is, like, repulsive to me.

06:46:46.880 So, no.

06:46:47.840 I would die a virgin.

06:46:48.640 My great-aunt died a hundred-year-old virgin.

06:46:50.660 No way.

06:46:51.000 She never got married.

06:46:52.260 Oh, wow.

06:46:52.580 Your great-aunt?

06:46:53.500 My grandma's sister, yeah.

06:46:54.660 Wow.

06:46:54.860 She never got married.

06:46:55.960 She's beautiful.

06:46:56.540 One month, she had her hundredth birthday.

06:46:58.180 She had, like, a giant...

06:46:59.060 The little sister was a nun, so she was also a virgin.

06:47:01.620 Oh, wow.

06:47:02.320 Oh, my goodness.

06:47:02.860 I mean, right.

06:47:03.180 I had two virgins in...

06:47:04.260 Sorry, sorry.

06:47:04.760 That's so cool.

06:47:05.720 I mean, I'd rather not die a virgin, but if it comes down to that...

06:47:08.000 No.

06:47:08.200 All right.

06:47:08.600 It was just funny.

06:47:09.460 Oh, okay, okay.

06:47:10.040 It was just funny.

06:47:10.740 Okay.

06:47:11.220 Thank you.

06:47:11.700 Thank you.

06:47:11.980 Thank you.

06:47:12.060 When were chastity belts a thing, I guess?

06:47:13.860 That's a good question.

06:47:15.140 You know what I mean?

06:47:16.140 Medieval times, I'm assuming.

06:47:17.140 I think we need to bring them back.

06:47:19.740 Chastity belts?

06:47:20.400 Yes.

06:47:21.020 Only for women, though.

06:47:22.300 Were they actual belts?

06:47:23.420 Agreed.

06:47:23.840 I mean, that's how it was, right?

06:47:25.980 Well, I mean, like, the last time I seen a chastity belt, what I actually was like,

06:47:28.500 what is that?

06:47:29.240 It was, like, I think, what was it?

06:47:30.940 Robin Hood and Men type.

06:47:31.760 I'm going to buy a chastity belt.

06:47:33.080 It was, like...

06:47:34.160 I will buy a chastity belt, and I'll try it out.

06:47:37.300 What?

06:47:37.780 Wait, what?

06:47:38.760 So, what if, like, chastity belt...

06:47:40.520 Wait, what was that?

06:47:41.020 Would it come with a hole on it, or no hole?

06:47:42.940 Was that Andrew?

06:47:44.440 I think it was Andrew.

06:47:46.240 Yeah.

06:47:46.760 He's not admitting it, though.

06:47:47.760 Wait.

06:47:48.700 We don't have that on our soundboard.

06:47:51.520 What?

06:47:52.360 Wait, where did that fucking...

06:47:53.560 Nick?

06:47:53.820 Was that you?

06:47:54.300 Dun, dun.

06:47:55.500 Wait, it was Nick?

06:47:57.260 Oh, it was Nick.

06:47:58.360 Wait, is it about the chastity?

06:47:59.760 No.

06:48:00.460 Wait, Andrew, you've got to do that more.

06:48:03.000 Andrew, you have to do the red thing more, Andrew.

06:48:06.100 That's pretty cool.

06:48:06.580 I like the red thing.

06:48:07.120 Andrew, you've got to do the red thing more.

06:48:09.720 Very demonic.

06:48:11.020 What's our rating in red lighting?

06:48:13.000 Wait, what do you mean it's demonic?

06:48:14.580 What, the color red is demonic?

06:48:16.680 No, it was, like, opposite, like a dimure.

06:48:18.720 Like, oh, that's not very cutesy.

06:48:20.760 It's very demonic.

06:48:21.460 Nick, do we have other reacts?

06:48:22.880 Yeah.

06:48:23.260 Let's do those.

06:48:24.440 Oh, this is the one.

06:48:25.500 Oh, who here has had lip filler?

06:48:28.840 I have had some.

06:48:29.320 I have.

06:48:31.240 It's worn out right now.

06:48:32.220 For hydration purposes.

06:48:33.440 I have a question for the ladies on this.

06:48:37.060 Nick, play the clip.

06:48:37.780 Play the clip, Nick.

06:48:40.040 Play the clip.

06:48:43.460 Oh, it was Nick.

06:48:45.160 I found it.

06:48:45.980 Okay.

06:48:46.540 It's not that bad.

06:48:47.320 I've seen one.

06:48:47.740 Oh, my God.

06:48:51.480 Why do you women destroy your appearance?

06:48:55.380 That's a lot.

06:48:56.340 Isn't that the initial swelling?

06:48:58.600 Did it go down for her?

06:49:00.000 Or does she still look like that?

06:49:01.280 Why do y'all destroy your looks?

06:49:03.740 It's kind of sad.

06:49:04.640 Well, to be fair, I mean, that's a very extreme case.

06:49:07.440 These poor women are just destroying their face.

06:49:09.660 I think some girls, like, do maybe look good, and then when other girls see that, they want

06:49:14.080 to get it and expect it to look as good, but then it just doesn't look good on them.

06:49:18.520 Yeah.

06:49:18.700 You've never found a girl attractive that has lip filler?

06:49:21.800 Never?

06:49:23.280 A girl could be attractive and have lip filler, but I've never...

06:49:27.760 It doesn't make her more attractive.

06:49:29.960 It makes her look...

06:49:30.740 At least my aesthetic perspective, it makes women look worse.

06:49:35.540 Do you think Kylie Jenner is unattractive?

06:49:40.720 Well, I mean, she's super plastic, but her fake lips, I think they look worse.

06:49:45.680 Okay.

06:49:46.320 Would you fuck her, though?

06:49:47.840 Would you fuck her?

06:49:49.140 Yeah.

06:49:50.060 Does she fuck white guys?

06:49:51.640 So you would.

06:49:52.520 Yeah, she's steaming white guys.

06:49:53.260 So you would.

06:49:53.740 You would fuck plastic.

06:49:54.560 Oh, Timothy Chalamet.

06:49:55.880 So you would.

06:49:57.560 And then you wonder why women are plastic.

06:49:58.780 I would be an idiot businessman to pass up the chance of fucking Kylie Jenner, first

06:50:03.700 off.

06:50:04.640 You realize how...

06:50:06.480 I don't know, though.

06:50:07.180 Don't.

06:50:07.500 Don't.

06:50:08.980 Mmm.

06:50:09.880 Mmm.

06:50:10.380 Mmm.

06:50:10.520 Mmm.

06:50:11.040 Mmm.

06:50:12.620 Mmm.

06:50:12.860 Ah!

06:50:14.260 Why is that?

06:50:15.000 Why is that?

06:50:15.580 I just wanted to do it.

06:50:17.740 Oh, okay.

06:50:19.100 Sometimes, though, I think that the trademark of good work is when you can't tell that someone's

06:50:23.240 had something done.

06:50:23.320 Right.

06:50:23.340 I agree with you.

06:50:24.060 I don't think necessarily that there's...

06:50:25.900 I don't necessarily think that if someone's had something done, that means that it's,

06:50:30.780 you know...

06:50:31.400 Yeah.

06:50:32.120 I don't like the plastic look.

06:50:33.540 No, that's fair.

06:50:34.180 I absolutely...

06:50:34.600 Yes, you do.

06:50:35.180 I don't either.

06:50:35.300 You would fuck Kylie Jenner.

06:50:36.300 If that gets your dick hard, obviously...

06:50:37.860 Have you seen it done naturally?

06:50:39.840 Yeah.

06:50:39.940 Have you seen it done naturally?

06:50:41.780 It doesn't look...

06:50:43.020 She doesn't look natural.

06:50:44.100 She has...

06:50:44.480 No, not...

06:50:45.480 We're not talking about Kylie.

06:50:46.740 Does she have a BBL?

06:50:47.620 Probably.

06:50:48.060 I don't fucking know.

06:50:48.960 Have you seen lip filler done naturally?

06:50:51.600 No.

06:50:51.760 It never looks natural.

06:50:53.440 It always looks bad.

06:50:55.220 Sorry.

06:50:55.840 Oh, no.

06:50:56.640 Sorry, ladies.

06:50:57.980 Damn.

06:50:59.000 That's crazy.

06:50:59.660 Does my lip filler look natural?

06:51:02.080 Yeah.

06:51:02.300 I thought you said you didn't have lip filler.

06:51:03.680 I lied.

06:51:05.360 Wait.

06:51:05.760 Does it look natural?

06:51:06.440 Are you lying about having lip?

06:51:07.140 She was talking about the other lips.

06:51:09.780 Big labia.

06:51:10.780 Labia!

06:51:13.460 I'm just kidding.

06:51:14.300 Now, that's something I can get behind it.

06:51:17.320 I can get behind it.

06:51:18.920 Oh, the bear...

06:51:19.920 We gotta do the bear question.

06:51:21.520 We gotta do...

06:51:22.300 Wait.

06:51:22.580 You wanna date Aaron Rodgers?

06:51:25.200 If he were interested.

06:51:27.100 I mean...

06:51:27.940 Hashtag Aaron Rodgers.

06:51:29.460 Hashtag Aaron.

06:51:30.700 Hashtag virgin.

06:51:32.080 I mean, I'm probably not good enough for him, but...

06:51:34.320 Have you ever heard that Bo Burnham...

06:51:36.360 There's a...

06:51:36.680 He did a comedy special.

06:51:37.820 Like, he does these musical bits.

06:51:39.120 I love Bo Burnham.

06:51:39.600 And it's like something like...

06:51:41.720 How does it go?

06:51:42.520 There's something about, like, lower your expectations a little.

06:51:46.940 I have not heard that.

06:51:48.200 What special is that from?

06:51:49.780 I forgot.

06:51:50.900 Is it, like, an older one?

06:51:51.960 It's one of his older ones.

06:51:53.720 It's before, like, the...

06:51:56.000 Weirdo.

06:51:57.140 How does it go?

06:51:57.700 Oh, I think it's from what?

06:52:00.380 Where he's, like, reading a book, right?

06:52:02.640 And he's, like, sitting on a stool reading out of, like, his little poetry book.

06:52:05.860 I think it's one of the poems.

06:52:07.980 I guess.

06:52:08.860 I don't...

06:52:09.240 I think I know which one you're talking about.

06:52:10.980 I don't know.

06:52:11.540 I can't...

06:52:12.200 I can't recall.

06:52:12.860 Anyways, so...

06:52:13.880 Don't you think you gotta lower your expectations a little bit?

06:52:17.040 No, I don't.

06:52:18.060 Why not?

06:52:19.300 I don't wanna.

06:52:21.240 But it's like, okay.

06:52:22.640 It's like, you're not getting the man.

06:52:24.400 You haven't found the man.

06:52:26.360 Well, I haven't been looking, though, to be fair.

06:52:28.000 She doesn't feel like it's imperative, it seems like.

06:52:30.260 I'm not.

06:52:30.680 I honestly, my teens...

06:52:31.560 No, you do want a partner.

06:52:33.740 Yeah, so if the right person came along...

06:52:35.140 In my teens and 20s, I literally wasn't ready to date.

06:52:37.480 I wasn't interested in dating.

06:52:40.060 30s is really the only time in my life that I've been even open to the idea of being with someone.

06:52:46.240 Okay, what would you say to a guy, an average guy, who's like,

06:52:51.020 well, I'm holding out for a Victoria's Secret model.

06:52:56.180 What would I say?

06:52:57.480 What would you say to that?

06:52:58.480 Average guy.

06:52:59.240 Um, I don't know.

06:53:01.780 I don't know if I'd say anything, to be honest.

06:53:03.920 Like, rock on, brother.

06:53:05.660 You wouldn't be like, you're delusional?

06:53:09.360 You wouldn't snow delusional?

06:53:11.240 Maybe.

06:53:11.720 Yeah, maybe I am delusional, but it's okay.

06:53:14.780 I like it this way.

06:53:16.260 It's all good.

06:53:18.360 Yeah, I don't know.

06:53:19.860 I'm a pretty happy person, so it's all good.

06:53:23.660 Well, look, I mean, that's fine, but it's just...

06:53:27.620 It occurs to me that it seems a little unrealistic to expect to date someone on the level of Aaron Rodgers.

06:53:40.160 Well, that was just an example that I gave.

06:53:41.940 But, I mean, yeah, 100%.

06:53:45.480 Okay, so name somebody who's of lesser status and who has less money and is less attractive than Aaron Rodgers, who you would date.

06:53:56.620 Like a notable person that we can Google.

06:54:00.280 I can't do that.

06:54:01.540 I can't do that.

06:54:03.060 I really don't have anyone in mind for that.

06:54:04.380 Like, you know that guy Ryan from The Office?

06:54:08.360 No.

06:54:09.040 Have you seen The Office?

06:54:10.320 Yeah, but I don't know who Ryan is.

06:54:11.800 He's, like, got the negative downward tilt in his eyes.

06:54:17.180 Like, super...

06:54:19.620 Not in the millions?

06:54:20.960 I'm not sure who that is.

06:54:22.420 Yeah, I don't know who that is.

06:54:24.260 He's the guy who dated the Indian woman.

06:54:28.040 I forgot her name.

06:54:28.720 Kelly.

06:54:29.240 Kelly.

06:54:29.500 Damn y'all, I'll watch The Office.

06:54:31.740 I haven't seen it enough to...

06:54:33.180 I've never seen The Office.

06:54:33.740 Yeah, I haven't seen it enough to know who that is.

06:54:35.340 Me either, or friends.

06:54:36.740 Same.

06:54:37.780 But, no, it's all good.

06:54:38.680 I mean, listen, like, I'm happy on my own.

06:54:40.800 If the right guy comes along, I'm happy with that, too.

06:54:42.440 But I'm...

06:54:43.740 I've always been on my own.

06:54:44.900 I'm used to...

06:54:45.340 But you said you've rejected, like, hundreds of guys.

06:54:47.480 You haven't gone on any dates, right?

06:54:49.420 Right.

06:54:49.760 Because if I don't feel it with someone, I'm not going to waste anyone's time.

06:54:53.080 Does that make sense?

06:54:54.800 Sure.

06:54:56.300 Well, sorry.

06:54:57.160 But it's like...

06:54:58.500 I get it, but it's like, if you're just going to...

06:55:05.020 Like, if you do want to eventually find somebody...

06:55:08.260 You have to be open-minded.

06:55:09.260 At what point do you have to be like, okay, my expectations are too high.

06:55:15.240 I need to lower my standards and expectations if I'm going to find somebody.

06:55:19.560 Well, because I'm an all-or-nothing person when it comes to what I want.

06:55:22.540 So, I don't feel like I have to lower my expectations, and I'm not prepared to do so.

06:55:28.060 And I'm...

06:55:29.940 Like I said, would I like to find someone at this time?

06:55:33.360 I'd be happy to, but I'm also happy on my own.

06:55:36.220 I've always been on my own, so...

06:55:37.820 If a guy makes...

06:55:38.820 Would a good dating strategy for you be to bring your cats new outfits?

06:55:46.200 Yes.

06:55:46.700 Thank you.

06:55:47.700 Yeah.

06:55:47.980 Actually, I have a little stroller I push them around in, so...

06:55:50.120 No way.

06:55:50.640 Yeah.

06:55:50.860 Oh, yeah.

06:55:51.640 Oh, yeah.

06:55:52.100 They love to go outside.

06:55:52.780 Would you date a guy who makes $100,000 a year?

06:55:55.860 Potentially, yeah, if the connection was there.

06:55:57.300 I mean, sure.

06:55:58.640 If the connection was there, first and foremost, that's the most important thing, connection.

06:56:02.920 Like I said, that's why I said that that comes first.

06:56:06.000 Everything else is kind of secondary to that.

06:56:08.100 But there are other things that I would want as well.

06:56:13.220 10.

06:56:14.800 Yeah, 10.

06:56:15.680 You've got to be 10.

06:56:16.540 You've got to, like, balance me out a little bit.

06:56:18.660 Okay.

06:56:19.920 So once she sits back, I'll ask the final question, and then we'll wrap the show.

06:56:24.360 But she's back there.

06:56:25.620 I don't know what she's doing.

06:56:26.500 Doing methamphetamine or something.

06:56:30.600 Methamphetamine is great.

06:56:32.020 I like how she's doing everything.

06:56:33.360 Oh, sorry.

06:56:34.040 PCP, my bad.

06:56:34.740 Last call, guys, on the TTS, if you want to get it in.

06:56:39.060 Guys, last call.

06:56:39.980 Get your TTSs in.

06:56:40.980 Yeah, no one's going to send it for the big bottle of champagne back there.

06:56:44.420 No, we don't need a champagne bottle, but if they want to do a little TTS in the chat.

06:56:50.720 TTS.

06:56:53.760 What's that white thing in the glass there?

06:56:57.060 What is that?

06:56:57.860 It's the little things hanging out there.

06:57:03.200 What is that?

06:57:05.740 Do you see what I'm talking about, Maddie?

06:57:07.700 Oh, in the camera?

06:57:08.460 Where it's, like, flaring?

06:57:09.300 Where the camera is?

06:57:10.920 It's, like, flashing.

06:57:11.840 Yeah, no, that's the tower.

06:57:13.720 Oh.

06:57:13.960 It's, like, a light tower.

06:57:15.380 Okay, cool.

06:57:16.280 It's, like, a flame, kind of.

06:57:17.780 Yeah.

06:57:18.380 Okay.

06:57:18.840 Anyways.

06:57:20.940 So where were we?

06:57:22.740 You were going to ask her in the orange.

06:57:24.240 Oh, no, no, no.

06:57:24.880 Okay.

06:57:25.280 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

06:57:26.020 So going around the table, would you rather be in a forest, and you'll cross paths with

06:57:32.600 a man or a bear?

06:57:35.280 And you're going to cross paths, randomly spawn in the forest.

06:57:38.040 I'm starting over here with you.

06:57:40.520 What's my name?

06:57:42.920 Gertrude.

06:57:44.980 Gertrude?

06:57:45.540 Gertrude.

06:57:46.100 Oh, Gertrude.

06:57:47.080 Big labia.

06:57:47.740 I'm just, like, um, so I run across a bear or a man.

06:57:55.280 You're in a forest, and you're stuck.

06:57:56.820 I'm in a forest, and I'm stuck, and if I run across-

06:58:00.340 You're not necessarily stuck.

06:58:01.660 So you get randomly spawned in the forest.

06:58:03.220 You have to come across a bear or a man.

06:58:05.720 Which would you choose?

06:58:08.140 Fucking man.

06:58:11.340 Uh, let's do you.

06:58:12.720 Do you have a sternum tattoo, by the way?

06:58:18.620 I do.

06:58:19.120 Are you looking at your tits?

06:58:20.700 No, I'm looking at the-

06:58:22.160 Are you looking at my fat?

06:58:24.020 Sure.

06:58:24.820 He called me fat earlier, like-

06:58:26.500 I didn't call you fat.

06:58:27.180 He implied it.

06:58:27.940 I did not call you fat.

06:58:28.600 I told him he had a dad bod, and he was kind of like, how much do you weigh?

06:58:32.920 Like, you did.

06:58:36.320 Like, it felt like you were implying, like, oh my god, like, you're fat, too, so.

06:58:42.300 I said, don't worry about my dad bod, worry about your lady.

06:58:47.560 And I'm like, I've never been called fat before, so it's crazy.

06:58:53.600 I always think that's a person.

06:58:56.140 You always think it's me?

06:58:57.440 Yeah, kind of.

06:58:57.940 You don't think it'd be nice here.

06:58:59.420 No, but it's the same one.

06:59:01.080 No.

06:59:01.700 I want it.

06:59:04.680 Because it kind of looks like you're doing her now.

06:59:06.380 I do want to ask you now, though.

06:59:11.380 Do you think I'm fat?

06:59:13.800 Wait, what?

06:59:14.840 Can you rate all of us on a scale of 1 through 10 and go around this panel?

06:59:18.180 No, because I'll cry.

06:59:20.020 It's okay.

06:59:20.640 You're already a prostitute.

06:59:21.520 You okay, bro?

06:59:44.400 Okay, I need to stop.

06:59:45.760 Okay.

06:59:46.600 So, bear or man, which do you pick?

06:59:50.000 Well, after, like.

06:59:50.980 Why are you touching your boob like that, bro?

06:59:52.520 Come on.

06:59:54.600 Calm down, bro.

06:59:56.400 I can touch my boobs if I want to.

06:59:58.260 I know.

06:59:58.540 It's just, like, very, I don't know.

07:00:00.520 Very sexual.

07:00:03.960 Okay, go ahead.

07:00:04.700 Go ahead.

07:00:05.720 Anyways.

07:00:06.420 Which do you pick?

07:00:07.000 Bear, man?

07:00:07.900 So.

07:00:09.680 A bear man.

07:00:10.480 I think, well, there's, like, obviously, like, the whole.

07:00:16.820 Is Wayne Brady going to have to choke a bitch?

07:00:19.500 Sorry.

07:00:19.980 I don't know why I pressed that one.

07:00:23.220 Let's just go with man, yeah.

07:00:25.540 Oh, okay.

07:00:26.080 All right.

07:00:26.420 Going around the table.

07:00:27.860 Man.

07:00:29.140 Man.

07:00:30.520 Definitely man.

07:00:32.500 Bear?

07:00:34.880 Lauren?

07:00:35.700 Man.

07:00:36.100 I just made a video about this, actually.

07:00:37.580 Oh, why do you pick bear?

07:00:38.340 Because, wait, so, like, yeah, I'd be stuck in the forest with a bear because you can run

07:00:45.580 from a bear or, like, scare it off.

07:00:47.540 Because I've been stuck in a forest before.

07:00:48.980 Because I've been camping.

07:00:49.820 You can scare off a bear, but you never know what the random man's going to do to you.

07:00:53.200 You don't know what the bear's going to do to you.

07:00:54.720 You don't think the man could protect you from potential threats in the forest?

07:00:57.020 You could be hungry and eat the bear.

07:00:58.440 Hell no.

07:00:59.080 Wait, bears.

07:00:59.660 Sorry, that's kind of loud.

07:01:00.760 That's aggressive.

07:01:01.680 Bears can run up to 30 miles per hour.

07:01:03.540 If you're, like, within close enough proximity, you're going to die.

07:01:06.120 Yeah, I've been near a bear before.

07:01:07.440 Right.

07:01:07.660 You can't just, like, scare it away.

07:01:09.120 But you can.

07:01:09.760 You have a higher likeliness of running away from a man.

07:01:12.100 That's predatory.

07:01:13.380 I'd rather be in the forest with a bear.

07:01:14.400 Your intellect is so attractive.

07:01:15.820 It's crazy.

07:01:16.940 Wait, so what's...

07:01:18.900 I'm sorry.

07:01:21.520 It'll be a meme.

07:01:22.480 It sounded kind of a snipey and a little bit underhanded and nefarious and a little bit...

07:01:28.980 You know, it just sounded a little bit like passive-aggressive there.

07:01:34.500 Wait, who?

07:01:35.120 I forgot to turn back on the TTS.

07:01:38.800 There's, like, a bazillion...

07:01:40.240 Guys, it was accidentally paused.

07:01:43.160 I'm really sorry.

07:01:44.240 It's because we said big labia.

07:01:46.440 I'm sorry.

07:01:47.020 I'm just going to let them come through.

07:01:49.760 Vector donated $30.

07:01:51.800 I don't understand why Miss Nine in the back there has a permanent blush.

07:01:56.200 It's almost like she saw Brian's dumpy and her face had an involuntary reaction.

07:02:01.860 I don't know.

07:02:02.560 I don't know.

07:02:03.240 She's been advertising her big baby all night.

07:02:04.820 Jim Bro donated $30.

07:02:07.000 There it is.

07:02:07.420 My sprinkler goes like this.

07:02:11.020 It comes back like...

07:02:17.020 Average Jim Bro.

07:02:21.880 Thank you, bro.

07:02:22.560 Thank you.

07:02:22.840 Nice.

07:02:23.500 Brian's number one simp donated $31.

07:02:26.820 I have a huge labia, Brian.

07:02:29.160 I'm sorry, guys, that these were balls.

07:02:30.460 It's so large that it looks like flaccid testicles.

07:02:33.680 Sign me up.

07:02:35.820 Flaccid testicles, huh?

07:02:37.980 Hillary Epstein donated $30.

07:02:41.120 So a bunch of five and sixes require someone who doesn't have a dad bond?

07:02:46.180 Sorry you are eliminating 80% of the dating pool.

07:02:49.820 Especially when you have baggage.

07:02:52.080 Let's have a reality check.

07:02:55.020 Old Man Marine donated $30.

07:02:58.220 Milf, I want to bury my face in those underscore and stick my underscore in every underscore.

07:03:03.880 Left it blank so your son won't know what I said.

07:03:07.700 Sorry, not 18, but we'll still have a good time.

07:03:10.840 It's a milf.

07:03:12.540 Antidote Johnson, $1,336 donated $30.

07:03:18.040 Brian, remember that time when you were at the gym yesterday and there was the flying labia that looked like gothic Joe Biden with wings that had you go, T-C-T-C-T-C-T-C-T-C-T-C-T-C-T-C-T-C-T-C-T-C-T-C-T-C-T-C-C-T-C-T-C-C-T-C-C-C-K-C-K-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-K-C-C-K.

07:03:37.540 gmd jim donated thirty dollars blondie the purity of virginity is something that a conservative

07:03:46.020 christian man is looking for you are a progressive larping as a conservative they will see right

07:03:52.300 through you bear underscore in underscore the underscore woods donated thirty dollars

07:03:58.780 she should name her cat delulu i have a bad idea for the next one

07:04:03.400 well put bear in the woods thank you we have a few more coming through a few more get them

07:04:09.620 thomas donated thirty five dollars hello from the uk it's my first time catching a live stream and

07:04:16.700 it's nearly over smiley face good job brixton i hope i didn't misspell it and andrew one question for

07:04:24.460 the panel how many feminists clay donated twenty nine dollars and ninety nine cents would love to

07:04:32.900 see mcken murphy on the pod thank you he's an evo psychologist with great data driven takes on

07:04:38.380 dating and is very articulate i'll be sure thank you clay i'll be sure framework engineer donated thirty

07:04:45.320 dollars not wanting children is like admitting to the world that you're so rotten on the inside that

07:04:50.960 even you know there's nothing worth reproducing going on inside it's just slow self deletion

07:04:57.120 that's basically what she said yeah yeah she was a bit she's a bit more tactful

07:05:02.720 you're not so nice thomas thomas i appreciate you watching all the way from the uh uk man

07:05:09.860 i hope you enjoy your first time uh watching the stream appreciate you uh catching it thank you man

07:05:15.980 uh uh feminists i don't think any of them donated thirty dollars no fem how are a bunch of five or

07:05:22.720 six going to say they aren't okay with a dad bodwin that eliminates eighty percent of the dating pool for

07:05:28.420 their age then they have more requirements on top of that w office ref there's actually this great video

07:05:37.140 from the uh office about this how does it go it's about like ah well i'll have to play it some other

07:05:47.220 time but thank you man appreciate it i'll let the rest come through the underscore random underscore bear

07:05:52.560 donated thirty dollars i'm running away from all y'all predators i'm a 19 year old bear you'll give me

07:06:00.540 the ick yeah there you go you're doing it one more time big pop along john donated thirty dollars

07:06:08.040 brian when are you hitting the streets for interviews again i'ma find you and bust those cheats

07:06:14.700 don't lose any weight i like my twinks a little chunky wow ko donated one hundred dollars

07:06:22.320 does butt stuff and bjs count against virginity furthermore do they count a body half body no body

07:06:29.880 uh also thank you k i appreciate it he also sent it in as a super chat does butt stuff and bjs count

07:06:36.400 against virginity yeah i wonder like girl like the bj count has to be like way higher that's what i

07:06:44.300 said earlier when i was like silent donated thirty dollars okay just because andrew murk tall you

07:06:50.120 delusional woman here we go andrew went to miami as a bear and nsa slash cia sent back a shaved twink clone

07:06:58.140 oh is it because of the beard

07:07:01.780 wait andrew we got to hear you're laughing you're muted you're muted yeah andrew it's bugged andrew's

07:07:10.800 bugged yeah the mike's bug boys the mike is bugged boys fix it uh so going back to ko's um

07:07:18.980 yeah you know i would say anal sex for sure counts i don't know if bj counts against virginity

07:07:27.540 well that's what i said about sexuality and then you guys were like well i don't know if bj counts

07:07:33.500 that's third base you know like you can get to third base you know and like still be a virgin

07:07:39.500 not the lauren yes like i'm ready lauren have you given any bj's no oh but you played with

07:07:47.840 yourself yes like i feel like though i feel like that stuff though is like all the same to me like

07:07:52.180 i wouldn't do anything with anyone that i wasn't into i wouldn't yeah but i mean who would want that

07:07:56.940 anyway defeats the purpose right oh i'm a virgin but i sucked a hundred dicks or oh i'm a virgin but

07:08:02.020 got effed in the a 10 times like it would defeat the whole purpose of the the virtue side of the thing

07:08:08.140 i'm a virgin i actually dated a girl who i'll come but i won't take penetration

07:08:14.420 i dated a girl who what uh actually never mind i'm not going to share that story no share it

07:08:25.120 she had a small virgin and gave bj's listen listen listen as the host of whatever brian must never

07:08:32.360 reveal too much about his own uh details because that would be untowards as the host of such a

07:08:39.780 podcast which has such an enormous status as the whatever podcast does it's like whatever i guess

07:08:45.920 it's whatever it's whatever andrew ray uh so last call guys on the chat uh last call on the chats

07:08:53.740 really quick going back to the bear thing though uh what so what percentage of men do you think would

07:08:59.320 attack you in this situation i didn't say attack i just said like i rather just be in the woods with

07:09:07.580 the bear than a man right but you're doing a risk assessment old man marine donated 30 dollars

07:09:13.240 girl in white tattoo artist here your tattoos look like crap you should work on getting those

07:09:20.600 lasered or covered up too pretty to have ugly tattoos boom semi-roasted oh semi-roasted did it i mean

07:09:28.700 like is the quality of them bad or i think you just wanted is it kirby yeah kirby's up here

07:09:34.060 why isn't kirby what is kirby pink is kirby pink see i didn't know if i wanted to get them colored

07:09:40.540 um i don't like the placement too much so i'd agree with kirby and she's if i could move them

07:09:46.060 around i'd move them around but this reminds me of that french terrible joke and you should feel

07:09:50.680 ashamed of yourself for making it it's just terrible just an awful joke kirby kirby and

07:09:56.100 kirby guys terrible just feel ashamed of yourself just a little bit you know what it's not kirby and

07:10:02.860 kirby made you chuckle a little i was chuckling at how terrible that's the second compliment within 30

07:10:09.520 minutes okay i know i'm not the only nine here yeah so we're gonna do a rate on twitch but before

07:10:19.940 that uh austin do you think you're able to pull up uh twitch i think you got it what's your rate on us

07:10:25.180 brian how would i rate you guys yeah tell us hey really quick before i do the rating uh guys go to

07:10:32.720 twitch.tv slash whatever drops a follow seven hours and a prime sub guys it's been 31 minutes since we

07:10:39.120 last got a prime we're about to send you guys off to do a raid if you guys really quick check if you

07:10:43.620 have a prime sub available because uh it will be joshua tree donated 30 dollars support the show

07:10:51.000 keep up the great work fighting joshua thank you man thank you joshua we are doing our best we are up

07:10:59.820 against the goliath of whatever we're up against and it's a real it's we're we're we're putting in the

07:11:07.780 work me and andrew two-man team we're two-man team dp what the fuck

07:11:15.800 disavow

07:11:23.280 thank you guys for the primes like two winners two winners the whole night

07:11:27.700 all these jokes too weird you've had two winners the entire night you feel i mean you're proud of

07:11:32.600 you're said two like two maybe maybe you've had three but you haven't had more than three winners

07:11:38.140 the whole night what were the winners what were the winners i want to know

07:11:42.360 well i well i took a w tonight andrew took a big w what's a big w big yeah big w but i mean it

07:11:50.900 wasn't against you guys it was uh i took a w against my own chats first time that's ever happened

07:11:55.280 i'm pretty proud of that by the way yay yeah he does well that's the good british clap i you know

07:12:01.680 i don't feel like yeah i feel like you should really give like the really yeah there you go

07:12:06.380 yeah that's you know what though andrew i do have to say you know what at least from your end what

07:12:11.740 took an l nothing your kidneys

07:12:15.840 because of what alcohol your liver

07:12:21.440 wait is it liver it's liver not kidneys it's liver i thought it was kidneys it's liver and

07:12:29.140 kidneys i don't yeah i can play i barely had anything drink what do you mean

07:12:33.380 this is how much of a straight edge i am i don't even know what that's so funny

07:12:38.460 organ alcohol effects like what happened to his kidneys i literally love her she's like so nice

07:12:43.600 she's like well uh-oh here we go ready cheers she's drinking with you he wasn't even the whole

07:12:53.980 thing but just fail after fail after fail fail after fail uh any final thoughts before we wrap up

07:13:03.020 any final thoughts before we wrap up the show speak now forever hold your peace we can send a raid

07:13:09.340 over this way brian yes i have it all set to go on your end we will raid you and uh hopefully you can

07:13:15.960 do a infomercial on the debate university of course michigan christian donated 30 dollars

07:13:22.420 if chastity belts came back women would demand it come with a hole in it dot so much hope tonight dot

07:13:29.060 women's value comes from modesty and they all blow it early dot virgin or not gandalf waited too long

07:13:35.760 dot w andrew uh can i ask andrew a question yeah go ahead oh wait there's another one coming in

07:13:43.840 old man marine donated 30 dollars they're too light placements are bad the elbow ditch tattoo looks

07:13:50.980 weird from here you could dm and i could help you out on what you can do not sure how brian feels about

07:13:57.640 giving out of candles uh you can dm me and tell me what's wrong with my tattoos and i'll respond

07:14:07.140 if okay i need help uh what was your question for senior andrew oh yeah andrew i wanted to know

07:14:13.360 like where do you ground uh your like ethics from like your morality i don't know if this is too off

07:14:19.140 topic i ground i ground it from god like divine command theory kind of that's part of it yes okay for

07:14:25.400 sure i was just curious oh show divine command theory or what for sure yes my uh epistemology

07:14:34.500 which is the study of the epistles for those of you who don't know the epistles is uh is grounded

07:14:41.080 along with my ontology and theology and eschatology and every other type of ology you can think of in

07:14:48.660 the unchanging standard which is god yes that is correct okay wait are you religious yeah are you

07:14:56.600 married yeah that's beautiful sorry don't sound so disappointed when you heard that i was married

07:15:03.440 i'm so disappointed i wanted to go on a date so bad brian

07:15:08.260 who am i gonna raid on twitch any final thoughts from anybody else andrew how do you feel about

07:15:20.720 applied ethics what the fuck what the fuck um i i like applied ethics why um i don't know you mean

07:15:28.100 ethics versus morals yeah the application there are brian's number simp donated thirty dollars

07:15:34.160 the labia is so large i can make them clap more than my cheeks btw brian and andrew are the best

07:15:41.540 thank you appreciate it brian's number simp there's yeah if you ever in the future if you ever want to

07:15:49.560 do a debate on that uh let me know um i i have some questions about that um if i can

07:15:57.320 ask you uh dm hillary epstein donated thirty dollars it's me here too big girls always loudest

07:16:04.900 g and y'all good show brian would never big girls big libya a lot of girls claim big labia but it's

07:16:14.060 actually they're catfishing they're really like middies would you be opposed to so since you're

07:16:20.960 against like plastic surgery uh what if a woman got like a labiaplasty skin graft and got a bigger

07:16:27.160 labia instead this i can get behind okay great they don't do that i'm sure they would find a way

07:16:35.700 i don't know yo brian's lint roller thank you for the gifted that's natalia thank you natalia

07:16:40.760 i want to know what's the questions what's the questions on the applied ethics oh no i was just

07:16:45.800 curious about your stance on that i i have some contention with applied ethics from what i've

07:16:50.760 understood what they are but um we don't have to get okay well can i ask you just a very brief

07:16:56.940 question yeah do all of your morals or ethical standards come from preference um no they don't

07:17:04.200 i don't i don't where do they come from ethics i would also argue from demand a divine command

07:17:08.600 theory by saying that my my morals are grounded by god in which he uh and what he commanded which

07:17:14.360 god the christian god jesus christ okay so then i don't i'm not sure where we would have no i was

07:17:20.440 just no no there's no contention i was just asking what your i guess stance was um on the different

07:17:25.560 types but i mean you don't follow pure divine command theory right um i don't know i have you're a

07:17:32.000 protestant aren't you no um you're not a protestant can you elaborate on that are you a catholic or

07:17:40.740 orthodox christian um i i guess i'm leaning more toward orthodox but i don't know have you been

07:17:47.600 baptized into the church not yet okay um so good i mean i'm glad that you're leaning towards orthodoxy

07:17:55.500 we need you over here you gotta you gotta get in you gotta get in here right that's where we need you

07:18:00.200 yeah my well i've been going back and forth on it um with uh other christians i i have more like

07:18:05.920 pentecostals around me so we're going back and forth on like the different oh well that's that's

07:18:11.440 the problem right it's uh it's not it's not really just uh divine command but it's the idea of exegesis

07:18:17.160 and you being your own god that's the big problem but anyway i won't uh i won't belabor the point at

07:18:22.360 the end of the show but uh yeah if you have more questions let me know and i'll point you in the right

07:18:26.600 direction for people who at least can answer them if i can't um yeah i'm just trying to figure out how to

07:18:30.880 ground from divine command theory because i feel like once you argue uh like my morals come from god

07:18:35.380 would you not have the burden of proof to like prove that tell you what i do have to wrap up the

07:18:40.420 show but i will if you guys want you guys could maybe hop on just very briefly i'll just respond

07:18:45.020 yes i think you would have a philosophical burden but you can look to the transcendental argument for

07:18:50.000 philosophical proof okay thank you all right cool all right guys uh let's see 45 minutes indeed it is

07:18:58.300 indeed it is bamboozled oh what's another two minutes he's almost done with the show look at this

07:19:04.580 this is ridiculous we just had it we had a moment we had a drink everything and you're just gonna

07:19:09.120 mess the whole thing just like that i loved it she found out i was married now she wants to get out

07:19:13.720 of the studio so just you know i don't want to continue now see why did you get me sorted by the

07:19:19.300 way i do want to reiterate that the house of the dragon season two was absolute dog shit but i would

07:19:26.100 like to end the show uh by saying well played gg well played to the panel last call hit the like

07:19:31.960 button please on your way out uh thank you for tuning in tonight guys you could have been anywhere

07:19:36.640 in the world but you're here with me i appreciate that thank you to everyone who so generously super

07:19:40.840 chats donates and supports the show we will be live again tuesday 5 p.m pacific got a pretty good

07:19:48.020 panel walt disney donated 30 dollars please tell mcmona to lay off the cheeseburgers and start

07:19:54.120 focusing on the coconuts and the trees who the fuck is mcmona moana oh shit my bad

07:19:59.980 who the fuck is that guy by the way is a is a as brian wraps up with his outro i just want to say

07:20:05.960 it was nice to meet all of you a very spirited conversation i enjoyed it very much hope to see

07:20:10.440 all of you back at some point nice to meet you andrew thank you nice to meet you thank you for

07:20:14.720 letting us be here as well thank big thank you to the panel thank you to uh again everybody who

07:20:20.740 super chats donates supports the show madison no thank you to madison but everybody else

07:20:25.660 10 000 on the stream is crazy though yay 10 000 what viewers yeah or that's some comments i'm

07:20:32.040 pretty sure oh shit actually it's uh it's much more than that there's uh there's a whole other

07:20:36.180 stream side of this which also has thousands more yeah between youtube and twitch we do like

07:20:42.640 between 8 and 10k usually anyways um i am gonna do a raid on twitch i will be rating andrew so those

07:20:49.080 of you don't leave yet because we're gonna do a raid on youtube which sends you over to andrew's

07:20:54.720 channel he's gonna continue uh streaming on his channel for a period of time and he's gonna get

07:20:59.320 into some juicy stuff so stick around for that any girls who want to be on the show dm whatever on

07:21:04.740 instagram if you can make it to santa barbara 07's in the chat those of you watching on twitch i'm

07:21:10.180 gonna send a raid to s fand he is playing madden nfl 25 and uh he's playing who's he playing as

07:21:20.360 the commanders okay the one uh okay he's playing we can't or actually do you know how to pull it up

07:21:28.460 austin you want to give it a crack

07:21:30.640 uh so you're gonna have to open up the other tab go to twitch.tv

07:21:35.760 slash s fand tv you're gonna have to type that in

07:21:39.300 so it's e-s-f-a-n-d tv

07:21:43.180 what is it s and just forget it okay don't worry

07:21:48.800 i gotta get these people out of here but um i'm gonna do the raid i'll send the raid over there on

07:21:55.880 twitch going in seven seconds guys please uh tell tell s fan to come to california and we'll get

07:22:02.060 him on the podcast we we got to get this guy on the show he's a he's a world of warcraft player so

07:22:07.760 we we have a lot to talk about when it comes to dating voice crack and uh world of warcraft so

07:22:13.380 uh i'm gonna send the raid now thank you guys for watching on twitch drop a fall on the prime before

07:22:17.500 i send you over but uh thank you guys appreciate it rating now and then uh lastly i think that's

07:22:23.380 pretty much it on the youtube side guys like i said we're gonna raid andrew uh drop him a sub while

07:22:27.620 you're over there and uh yeah guys 07's in the chat i hope that you guys uh have a one sec guys let

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Whatever Podcast - September 02, 2024

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