35 Year Old w⧸ CRAZY Standards?! REFUSES TO SETTLE! Obese Girl WILL NOT Date Obese Man?! She Is MOUTHY To Her Husband?! | Dating Talk #267
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8 hours and 8 minutes
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170.16376
Hate Speech Sentences
393
Summary
On this week's episode of Whatever Dating Talk, we discuss the pros and cons of Daylight Saving Time, and why we should have a permanent daylight savings time. Plus, we talk about our thoughts on Kanye West's new song, "Big Labia Matter" and why you should date women with large labia.
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guys, these are, let me tell you this. We don't print on shitty, you know, you ever bought like a
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merch from a band or some other creator or whatever. And they print on these like shitty
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Gil Dan cardboard dog shit blanks. We print on premium stuff. It's comfortable. It's going to
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last and you'll actually want to wear it. I can't tell you how many band t-shirts I've bought that
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feel like I'm chafing. I'm chafed after that shit. Fuck that. So get yourself some merch shop.whatever.com
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premium quality stuff. Uh, what do we use? I think it's Bella canvas, at least for the t-shirts.
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So we got, uh, Oh yeah. Follow us on Instagram. Yeah, there it is. Any women who want to be on the
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show, you can DM us there. Twitter.com slash whatever. Follow me on Instagram, Brian Atlas X,
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Twitter at Brian Atlas. And, uh, my cat, I guess follow my cat and my nonprofit Big Labia Matter.
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Check out my nonprofit, Big Labia Matter. BLM for short, I ratioed Kanye West about this,
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uh, because tab back, uh, all labia can't matter until Big Labia Matter. So as someone who only dates
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women with large labia, it's a really, it's a close issue to me. Um, yeah, so it's the pressing issue
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of our time. Uh, 10,000 labiaplasties a year, by the way, in the U S. So very, very much, uh,
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kind of a tragedy, by the way that, um, I'm actually going to run for, for mayor of Santa
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Barbara and my platform is going to involve, um, we're not going to do this date light daylight.
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Is it, is it saving savings time is when it's good. Yeah. It just ended. So daylight savings
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time ended. So we want perma permanent daylight savings time. We voted on it. Permanent daylight
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savings time. I'm actually going to run for president too. That's my entire platform. I
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don't give a shit about anything else, but the daylight savings time is fucking bullshit. As
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you can see, it's already dark, ridiculous anyways. So yeah. Um, if anybody wants to like
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start a pack or something to support me, I guess, if you can't catch the full shows clips,
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channels, blah, blah, blah. We have a discord discord.gg slash whatever we post our stream schedule
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behind the scenes, hate mail, research studies, a bunch of other cool stuff. If you're my Caucasian,
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you will join the discord. I mean, you could also feel like that sounds bad. You know, Nick,
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what do you think? You know what I mean? Like, because obviously other people besides
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like when I say my Caucasian, you could be Asian, you could be black, you could be Latino,
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Latino, Native American, Polynesian, whatever. You can still join the discord. I'm just saying
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like, if you're a black man, you are my Caucasian. If you join the discord anyways, good talk. Uh,
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okay. Without further ado, we're going to have the guests, wonderful guests today introduce
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themselves. So please tell us your name, age, occupation, where you're from and education.
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Hi, my name is Maria Portia. I'm from Los Angeles. I'm 27. Um, I am an SMC student studying psychology.
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All right. And, uh, how close are you to graduating? Um, two more years, two more years. Okay. What do
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you want to do with your degree? You want to figuring it out? Maybe more in the therapy end, um, maybe even
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like online therapy. So, so you're currently a sophomore. Yes. Okay. Have you taken any psychology
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classes in high school? And then, um, earlier this year I took like psych one, psych one. Okay. So
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you're just, yeah, I'm taking the second one in, um, January. Gotcha. What's like from, so you just
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took that psych class though? Just, yeah. Okay. So it's still kind of fresh in your brain. Yes. Very. Uh,
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give me like one thing you learned. One thing I learned? Like the biggest takeaway from the class.
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Hmm. Biggest takeaway. Um, just, I guess like mind over matter. Really?
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My wait, mind over matter. They taught that in the class. Yeah. In psych one. Is that what it's
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called? Psych one. Psychology one, psych one, like breaking it down. Okay. It's not one Oh one.
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No. 100. One Oh one. It's just one psych one. Okay. So it's mind over matter. Couldn't you learn
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that from like an Instagram post or science? Like a 13 year old girl's Instagram post or
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something? It's mind over matter, you know? No, because it is like, you know, it's your
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brain over like the matter, you know, your brain. But so what does that mean though? Just
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kind of like the effect of how each person, you know, is going to basically like interact
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with a problem. Um, but so is that like, did you have to write an essay or anything for the class?
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Uh, I did not over that, not on that. What was your essay final letter? Was it a final essay? I don't
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know. The final final was just over. I'm trying to even remember on that right now. Well, you wrote,
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what, how many essays did you have to write for the class? Like good three or four. Okay. The most
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recent one you wrote, what was the topic? Can't tell you. You chat GPT, you just pump that out for
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you? No, I didn't pump it out. I'm just forgetful. But what it was, wait, like over the summer you
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took psych one or? Over January, winter. Oh, so a few months back. Yeah. About going on a year ago.
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Okay. You don't remember the essay? Nope. The topic? I would have to bring it up on my phone. That's
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how quick I forget things. Anything else? Like second number one thing, number two thing,
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that you learned from your psych class. I really can't tell you. Relay, relay to us what you
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learned in psych one. You're a psych, you want to study psychology. Tell me what you learned. One
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thing. Do I want to study psychology at this point? Well, you're a psych major, right? I know. Yes.
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Give me, give me just, okay. So mind over matter. God, love it. Love it. Sigmund, real Sigmund Freud,
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Freud over here. What, what's the number two thing that you learned in psych? Number two? Yeah.
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I mean, it's science based. So just. Is it? Is psychology science based? Isn't it like a soft
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science though? Very soft. Yeah. So is it really science based? Um, what, but what did you learn
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though? Can't tell you. All right. I'm not, I'm not, this actually, look, I don't really think that
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this is an indictment of you. I think it's actually an indictment of the educational system to some
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degree. Um, potentially, but, uh, I didn't mean to grow you there, but okay. You're, you're from LA.
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Do you do, you work or you, you do some modeling, right? Yes. Modeling. Uh, runway model. Both. Um,
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like runaway commercial print, um, music videos. What, what's, Oh, music. What, who, who have you,
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uh, um, I was in, uh, Chris Brown, Jeremiah one. Um, it was last summer. Chris Brown. Okay. Did you,
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uh, did you meet? Yeah. What's his name? Wait, what's his crazy? What's his name? Is it breezy?
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Breezy nickname? Breezy. Did you meet Breezy? Yes. Yeah. I know him pretty well. Oh, you know him pretty
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well. Yeah. Like hung out, hung out with them. It's LA. Did you have like a, you know, it's a
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dating podcast. Do you guys have a date or, um, not a date. Flirtation for sure. For sure. Cause
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he, he's a bit of a ladies man. Definitely. He is. Yeah. Yes. So did you have a date with
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him or not a date? Not a date. More like hangouts, hangouts and like group settings, you know,
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many women around. Doesn't he charge, like he does these meet and greets where he'll take a photo
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with you? Yeah. Doesn't he charge like an obscene amount for the thousand, like a thousand dollars.
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Yeah. And then the girls can like bring their cuck boyfriend or whatever. Basically. And
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they're doing all kinds of poses and like the craziest, like him proposing to the girl or
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like, I'm going to write a note to ask the panel, like the Chris Brown boyfriend, girlfriend. Okay.
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Yeah. We'll come back to that. Um, okay. Uh, modeling you, you've done some print stuff.
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Any companies we might've heard of? Um, build a bear build a bear. Uh, Sephora, um, Amika.
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That was another like hair campaign. Nice. Rock and roll. Good stuff. Good stuff. What about you?
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Uh, I'm Liana. I'm 36. Ah, what else? Uh, where I'm from? Yeah. I currently live in
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Hämeenkirä. And now if anyone wants to ask where it is or guess where it is. Can I have
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you tilt your mic down a little bit? Like this? Yeah. Um, so yeah, I currently live in Hämeenkirä.
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Anyone knows where it is? Oh my God. Just tell us, please. Well, you know already. Finland.
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So. Yay. Uh, okay. You're from Finland. So you speak Finnish. Yeah, I do.
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Any other languages? Uh, a little bit of French. Well, a little bit of English.
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Do you speak French? Oui, un peu. Maman, elle est française. Oh, c'est bien ça. C'est bien.
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Je comprends mieux que je parle. Moi aussi. Moi aussi. Je comprends plus bien que je parle.
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Anyways, should we talk shit about the rest of the panel in French? Yeah, I'll be.
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Poutin, alors? Oh, yeah. I don't know all the curse words. Just kidding. I'm kidding.
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For the French. Every time in school, I hit my throat somewhere. I always cursed in French because
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you didn't get in trouble with that. Rock and roll. Um, so you're from Finland, uh, born there?
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Uh, no, born in Jerusalem. So I'm like Jewish, French, and Finnish. Gotcha. When did you move
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to Finland? When I was four? Four. Oh, three or four around that time. Okay, cool. Uh. But
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my grandma is Finnish, so I'm like totally. That's mine. Occupation? What do you do for
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work? I'm a mechanic. Oh, nice. Uh, what kind? Uh, like automotive. Automotive. I actually
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have a degree in heavy vehicle mechanics, so trucks and bigger vehicles. Oh, trucks. Okay.
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Um, so you don't work like for, I don't know, like a BMW dealership. I hate European cars. We're
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actually the only garage that does only American cars in Finland. Oh, wow. Okay. And you said
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heavy machinery. Yeah, that's where I got my degree in. Okay. Wow. A degree? Yeah. At a
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university in Finland for that? Well, it's like, uh, I'm not the goal in Finnish, but what
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is it? Great school. Great school. That makes sense. Probably. Okay. Uh, I noticed your
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teeth is bejeweled. Yeah. You have a little jewel there? Yeah. Okay. Anybody here have
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a grill by chance? They could pop in? No? Maybe Chris Brown can get you hooked up. I actually
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went to get my first one when I was 16 with my mom, so when my daughter turned 13, we went
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together and got one. Okay. Awesome. I noticed you have a tongue piercing, too? I used to
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have five. Five tongue piercings? I'm really scared of needles, so yeah, I had five tongue
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piercings. You're scared of needles, but... Yeah. Okay. Um, where can you even put all
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five? Where do they, like, underneath? It went across, so... Oh. Like this. Okay. Did you
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ever have, like, the ones in the lips or whatever, or...? That's the two holes in here. Oh, you had
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those. And a hole there. Oh, you had the septum? Yeah. Okay. All right. And I had it in my
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neck, and... Oh my goodness. Here, and yeah. Nice. Okay. Um... So scared of needles. I
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literally almost pass out every time. And then in terms of your education, it was just, like,
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the mechanic school that you went to? You got your degree in? Yeah, I bought myself a 72 Valiant,
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and fell in love with it, and it had electricity problems, so... I built those, and my daughter turned
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tree, so I had to decide what to do, so I decided to went to school and became a mechanic. Gotcha.
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All right. What about you? My name is Victoria Bumajdi. I'm 19 years old. I live in Los Angeles,
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California, and I run a quite controversial page on Instagram where I give harsh advice,
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but with love. Harsh advice. Controversial. A couple questions. Well, I'll come back to that.
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Uh, any college or anything like that? Not at the moment, no. Okay. It may be a possibility next
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year. Okay. Um, but we are seeing how life goes, yes. Gotcha. And, uh, grew up in L.A., you said,
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or did you say, where did you say, Orange County, or...? Yes, I grew up in L.A. Grew up in L.A.,
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gotcha. Yes. Okay. Uh, really caught, you said controversial. You know, I, I took a quick peek at your,
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uh, you also have a TikTok, too. I took a quick peek. Nick, do you have the, uh, the clip? We're just
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going to play a portion of it. She does. She, she is, in fact, a bit controversial.
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Um, I happen to find the most controversial one, just to perhaps make you... Well, okay. Go ahead.
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My interest, okay? From the beginning. Don't take me out of the clip.
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Always piqued my interest, okay? Wait, scroll it back. Scroll it back.
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Always piqued my interest. No, no, no, the, the, the bar. It's not scrolling all the way to the...
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like that, like that. All the way to the beginning. Wait, wait, wait,
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let's stop, stop, stop. Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. Let me, let me stop talking,
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and then play it. Go ahead. Hitler always piqued my interest, okay? Wow. Okay, that's crazy. I mean,
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it's a very controversial. Um, so, I mean, I won't let the, what... Do you want to explain that?
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Yeah, I mean, I could explain the video as much as I remember. Um, I actually have a different take. Um,
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rather than hating on people who have done horrible things, I'm not, not here to say that,
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or defend Hitler. Um, I try to figure out how they became, who they became, um, why they are in our
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history books, while many other, um, you know, dictators in history were not as prominent. Um,
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in that video, I didn't necessarily touch on that, but as I grow, I try to learn as much as I can from
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every subject, not just history, but yeah. Um, I think also the reason why I, uh, am so controversial
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is because I'm not afraid to say what others may hesitate to do, so this could be really anything. Um,
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it could be about gender roles, it could be about my views on, um, the LGBTQ community, it could be about
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my views on many other communities, like minority communities. Um, but yeah, I really try to venture
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across every single, um, subject that people are afraid to touch, and yeah, and I love it.
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Okay. Gotcha. Uh, oh, quick reminder guys, if you do buy merch, it comes up like this on the screen,
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and we will give you guys shout outs. Uh, so if you do purchase merch, like I said, it goes through
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streamlabs.com slash whatever, and, uh, we'll be able to do a little read. Looks like two people
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bought t-shirts and somebody bought a, one of the premium, uh, hoodies. So thank you, man. Appreciate it.
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Uh, and usually you can put in your name and include even a little message along with it.
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And going to you, what about you? My name is Laura. I'm 31 years old. I am from the San Fernando
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Valley and I currently am unemployed, previously a personal assistant. And I went to school,
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I went to a trade school as well, um, for accounting and for landscaping, two very different things that
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I was really interested in. Um, not working in those fields, but they're always applicable to life.
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So. Okay. Got it. Got it. And you said 31, right? Yes. Okay. Gotcha. Just turned 31.
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Gotcha. All right. And you currently said you're unemployed. Is that correct? Okay. Homeless?
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No. Not homeless. Okay. I live in Calvary. We had a homeless person recently, I guess.
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Period. Um, oh, speaking of which the homeless person was that from, was that two shows ago or was
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it last show? The, the urban climber chick, uh, in the BTS tab, Nick, can you pull up the discord BTS tab?
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Uh, there was a, we, we posted a behind the scenes thing in our behind the scenes tab on there.
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We're not going to play it, but you can just windows tab. You can just show it. Yeah. So, um, yeah, uh,
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it's there if you guys want to see it. Um, a bit of a crash out meltdown. I mostly blame Felicity for it.
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Felicity really got under, Felicity got under that girl's skin. Um, definitely wasn't me. So if you want
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to see it, discord.gg slash whatever, uh, pull it up in the stream yard. Uh, okay. What about you?
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My name is Paige Hamilton. I'm from New York. Um, I'm a mommy. Hi kids. I told them I'd say hi. Um,
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I'm also a wife. Um, I worked for 13 years, um, helping people with disabilities in the community,
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but I am recently disabled myself. So I had to switch gears because I couldn't go from income
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to no income. And I started cozy cute co.com and I make apparel that's cozy and cute. And this is one
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of my shirts. So thank you. All right. Um, my name is Sabrina. I'm 35 and I grew up in Orange County
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and I live in the Inland Empire right now. And where I worked, I was a, I'm a data analyst
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for business. Any college? Yes. I'm going to college for administration of criminal justice.
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Uh, but you haven't had like a degree from something else previously? No, I went to school
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Okay. And you're in your first year, second year, third year, fourth year? Um,
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second year I should graduate next year, but, um, I have been doing data analysis for like eight years
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through my business. Okay. And then college for you? Oh, I, I did go to college. Um,
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on and off for a long time. I'm so close to finishing, but, um, right now I'm focusing on
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being a wife and a mommy. Okay. Where were you studying? I studied art history,
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art history. So you and you and her can connect on. I actually think it was, oh, I mean,
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at least she's honest. I think a lot of people are interested in the past. That's how I'll word that.
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Oh, we, you know what? We should have played the Erica song, but whatever. Um, all right. What about
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you? Um, my name is Sophia. I'm 18. Um, I live in Orange County. Um, I'm currently a freshman studying
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history actually. Um, and I also work as at a bakery. Gotcha. Um, and sorry, your age again.
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Sorry. I missed that. 35. And then your age again. 32. Gotcha. Sorry. Uh, okay. 32, 35, 18. You work
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at a bakery. Are you in college at all? Uh, yeah. I'm a freshman studying history, history. Got it.
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Okay. Felicity. What about you? I'm Felicity. I'm 19 from Santa Barbara and I'm a student.
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All right. Rock and roll. Welcome everybody. We're going to go around the table once more. What is
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everybody's current relationship status? If you're single, how long have you been single and longest
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relationship? Hold on. There's actually a TTS coming through. So I guess we'll just do this at
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now first. One moment. Um, Felicity was actually nevermind. Hold on. Uh,
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Leroy Jenkins donated $200. Ladies, can we get a fit check? Stand.
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Sure. Sure. Sure. We'll do it. Would you rather get a massage from a gay man or surgery from a female
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doctor? Serious surgery. So basically, would you rather get a massage or die? Wow. Uh, that's
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interesting. Uh, that, that's an interesting question for the chat. So we'll do a fit check. So if
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everybody just wants to stand up, you can show your outfit off. Uh, we'll, we'll show off the outfits.
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Uh, oh, uh, I guess maybe just scoot the chair back and scoot in. Okay. So we've got the outfits.
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There's the outfits, outfits, outfits, outfits, outfits, outfits. And then I guess he asked for a
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spin. If you guys want to spin, do a little spin. Do the hokey pokey, right? Okay. This, oh, no.
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Nope. Felicity's not a fan of it, I guess. All right. Leroy, Leroy Jenkins. Wait, is this like,
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I actually think I have a sound for this. Hold on. Oh no, that's the shit.
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No. Wait, it's, there it is. There it is. All right. Thank you guy. Um, all right. So going around
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the table, relationship status, if you're single, how long single and longest relationship you've ever
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been in, go ahead. Um, single, um, for about two years, technically, um, uh, in a relationship for
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five years, longest. Yeah. Is that the one that ended two years ago? The five year? No. Okay.
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Different one. Uh, so the five year one was from one to one, um, from like, uh, 14, 15 year old to like,
00:24:10.600
what, 20, 21. Okay. Gotcha. And then, uh, wait, you said 15 to 21 or 15 to yeah, 21. Okay. So it's
00:24:21.800
like high school. Yeah. High school thing. Who broke up with who? Uh, we were on and off a lot of
00:24:26.480
different times, but me finally ending it because the guy just kept shooting and like doing dirty
00:24:32.040
stuff. Like how, how old, how old was he? Oh, um, literally same age. Same age. Okay. And then
00:24:39.400
the most recent relationship you said you've been single for two years and did two years ago. How
00:24:44.320
long was that one? Um, how long was it? It was like two years. Yeah. To your relationship. Who broke
00:24:50.940
up with who? Me. Uh, any, any reason? Um, cheater again. What's that? Cheater. Cheater. Yeah. You
00:24:57.960
cheated? No. Well, actually maybe when we were off, I did and that was considered cheating, but not to
00:25:03.700
me because we were off on a break. Off. Was it off again, on again, multiple times? Not multiple
00:25:12.420
times. There's really only one off time and yeah. Okay. All right. Um, by the way, I just realized
00:25:23.980
not related to anything you've just said, I just put the, uh, woman from Israel next to the, I swear
00:25:33.880
this was not intentional next to the woman who said she, what did you say about Hitler's? I said,
00:25:40.340
I found him intriguing. I never said anything positive about it. I don't. Yeah. I've heard people say
00:25:44.560
that. I'm just, I swear that was not intentional. Do you have thoughts since you're, do you have any
00:25:53.400
thoughts on what she said? Well, no, because she didn't say anything bad. Of course I can put myself
00:26:01.340
into people's shoes also and think why somebody did something and either agree or disagree, but I
00:26:10.600
didn't see that as anything offensive. Gotcha. Okay. I appreciate that. Thank you so much.
00:26:16.160
Just to create a little more. Well played. Uh, I swear that was, I didn't even know you're from
00:26:23.400
Israel. Um, that was a new revelation when you said that, uh, during your, I thought you were
00:26:28.360
Finnish. Um, I have both actually here. Oh, you have a blue and white tattoo. So it's my name.
00:26:34.600
Say at the bottom. Oh, Israel. It's Finland and Israel and the flags are together.
00:26:38.440
Cause Finland is blue and white. Yeah. Right. Okay. Well, there you go. Um, okay. So you've
00:26:45.500
been single for two years. Yes. Uh, any, anything in the two year period, anything like, you know,
00:26:52.320
a couple months situation or whatever. Oh yeah. Recently there was one. So bad. So bad. What
00:26:59.560
did you do? I didn't do anything. I don't think I did anything. He would have to say what happened
00:27:04.220
because he literally just started posting a new relationship on his finsta, like on a finsta
00:27:10.960
where I wouldn't have seen it. Can you explain to the viewers what a finsta is? A finsta is
00:27:16.700
literally like, I don't know if it's a fake Instagram or what they call it, but like when
00:27:20.920
you just post random moments in your life on a different account and it could be the most random
00:27:26.620
things, like just whatever, like whatever you find intriguing. Gotcha. Okay. But, uh, so
00:27:33.780
you guys were seeing each other for how long? Um, for like two, three months from June to
00:27:40.420
yeah, June to like September. Okay. So you recently broke up. Yeah. That's recent. Okay. Have you had
00:27:49.620
a rebound since him? No, no, no actual rebound. Any guys in the picture currently? Um, not in person.
00:27:58.940
Breezy? No, he's on tour, whatever done. If Chris Brown, like slid in your DM right now and he's like,
00:28:06.460
Hey, you want to come on tour with me? Would you go? I would go. Yeah. I would definitely go. Okay.
00:28:12.500
All right. I'm kind of old. So like Chris Brown's cool again, like for like a while now, right? I mean,
00:28:18.360
I feel like he's always, he's maintained relevancy for kind of a long time. I think. Okay.
00:28:23.340
But after the Rihanna thing, he was not. Oh, I mean, he's definitely continued to have,
00:28:31.080
I mean, it's that had a pretty massive negative impact on his career, but he's remained pretty
00:28:36.200
relevant. I know my sister, maybe not as much as like, I don't know when his peak was. 2005.
00:28:43.080
Yeah, exactly. But I'd say, I know my sister just went to his concert, but we don't see eye to eye on
00:28:48.240
anything. So I'm not surprised. Okay. Um, so there's currently sort of a guy in the picture
00:28:55.880
that I'm interested in kind of seeing what would happen. Um, another celebrity person, but I don't
00:29:05.560
know. Okay. Gotcha. Uh, all right. What about you? In a committed relationship? I think it's been now
00:29:14.860
seven years. So living together, working together. Are you guys married? No. Ever married? Nope.
00:29:22.820
Kids? One. From current relationship? Uh, a relationship before. How old's your kid?
00:29:29.040
11. No, 12. 12. Yeah. Okay. Hi, Ariella. Mama loves you. How long was that relationship?
00:29:37.220
Uh, six years. The father of your kid? Yeah. Okay. Uh, were you guys engaged or anything?
00:29:45.280
Yeah, but not married. But not married? Nope. Uh, who ended that relationship? Who called
00:29:50.400
off the engagement? Me. Why is that? Because I was cheated on a lot. You, wait, he was cheating
00:29:56.380
on you? Yeah. Okay. When you say a lot, how many women and or men did he have cheat on you
00:30:05.000
with? Well, the first time I found it out, my daughter has just been born and he took a
00:30:13.320
Tinder girlfriend out because I was too tired and no, I just got home and yeah, he was thinking
00:30:23.000
he didn't want it to be alone if I leave him. And because I was so tired, of course, I wonder
00:30:29.400
why he took another girl out. And that kind of went on for six years on and off.
00:30:37.680
Damn. Okay. Um, and, uh, does, and you both live in Finland, right? Yep. Is there a child
00:30:46.100
support system in Finland? Yep. Okay. And so does, how much he pays you money, I guess?
00:30:51.680
I've never asked for anything. Okay. Um, I hate the idea that if you, of course, if you really
00:30:57.440
need the money, it's okay. But if you really don't need it to have an argument with the
00:31:03.480
other parent of your child is just something, I don't like the idea that it's always, you
00:31:09.280
have a relationship with somebody and you're kind of in an argument all the time because
00:31:15.000
the other one is mad about giving you money or something like that. So. Yeah. Yeah. Um,
00:31:20.360
so do you guys have shared custody? Yeah. Is it like 50, 50 custody? Yeah. We used to have.
00:31:26.900
Okay. So he gets the daughter on the weekends or how does it work? Not anymore. You get, uh,
00:31:32.780
what's the. For like, um, before COVID, every time he called, he wanted my daughter there. It was okay.
00:31:40.280
But after COVID, he, not sure if he got married, but he had a girlfriend and they had a child and
00:31:49.660
haven't heard from him after that. Oh, he's been out of the picture. Yeah. Totally. Yeah. Your
00:31:57.180
daughter's, you said 12 or 13. So he hasn't talked to his daughter in a couple of years? Yeah.
00:32:03.780
At all. Nope. Okay. So he started a new family and he's, I guess. Okay. Um,
00:32:12.260
and I'm assuming you're current, you've been in a relationship for seven years. He, he has acted as
00:32:19.260
a stepfather of sorts to your child. Okay. All right. Um, I think that's it there. Uh, what about you?
00:32:28.480
Um, I am talking to someone and fun fact, he was actually somebody who introduced me to your
00:32:35.500
guys's podcast. Oh, there you go. There you go. I don't know which camera to look at, but I know
00:32:39.660
if you're watching this and, um, yeah, we've been talking for about three months. He's a very humble
00:32:46.200
guy, very hardworking. That is what I value most in a man. And, um, I'm waiting to see how it goes.
00:32:52.900
Okay. Very, very hopeful. Gotcha. Uh, so talking stage, how is that?
00:32:58.480
How, how you would? Yes. I would say that. Three months. Yes. And, uh, longest relationship.
00:33:05.660
My longest relationship was eight months. Yeah. Eight months. Okay. Who broke up with who?
00:33:12.260
Uh, till this day, it is still unclear. Uh, what really just happened was that I stopped
00:33:17.460
reading or responding to messages. So I think we kind of both mutually were like, all right,
00:33:23.020
I think it's over, but, um, yeah. Okay. Um, so it was like a mutual ghost. You just ghosted
00:33:33.260
each other or what happened initially was, um, you know, there was a lot of buildup to
00:33:39.060
it, but I eventually found out that he was on hinge and, um, I actually, he still to this
00:33:45.840
day. He doesn't know that I knew, but I was so heartbroken. Um, my friend, a friend, she
00:33:52.100
sent that, uh, a picture from her friend that, uh, she screenshotted and sent it, uh, to me
00:33:58.640
while we were on call. And the funny thing was at that exact moment, he responded to the
00:34:03.580
apology text that I wrote because I thought I was in the wrong, but, um, yeah, I found that
00:34:08.580
out was so heartbroken that I just didn't bother to respond. I liked the message and
00:34:13.700
left it at that. But yeah, I don't wish any harm on him. I never wish any harm on anyone
00:34:19.280
who has, um, unfortunately chose to do things like that in the past, but it was a, it was
00:34:25.460
a, yeah. Even Hitler. I'm sorry. Uh, good one. So eight months in is you discovered he was
00:34:37.800
on hinge? Yes. Okay. Were you guys official boyfriend, girlfriend? Yes. Okay. Oh, not
00:34:44.740
just you thought, but there was a overt conversation, boyfriend, girlfriend, and then you've been
00:34:50.700
talking to a guy for three months. Have you known him for longer than that? Or you met,
00:34:55.160
how did you meet him? Um, we met by, I, okay, the story how we met is really funny. I had this,
00:35:01.240
um, crash out on my Instagram story and, uh, I, I don't know why, what the crash out was about,
00:35:07.500
but I was just like, I want a lawyer in my life. I want someone who's in the military and I want
00:35:11.540
someone to manage my social media. It was like a total joke thing. Um, and then he actually ended
00:35:16.500
up reaching out and was just like, Hey, I'm in the military. And, um, I ended up talking back and
00:35:22.360
forth. We met the first time. And, um, the funniest thing was we were under a different impression of
00:35:27.540
what that meetup was. Uh, I genuinely thought it was just a friend's thing and he was under the full
00:35:32.240
impression that I was trying to pursue him. But, um, yeah, he ended up inviting me to, um,
00:35:40.320
a, another dinner date. And I think from there on, we both kind of knew that this was,
00:35:45.760
we're going to pursue each other. And it's been in the conversation, um, us being girlfriend and
00:35:50.300
boyfriend. I think we are both, um, in mutual agreement that it's gonna, okay. I'll just say the
00:35:58.240
whole thing. Okay. Um, I was refraining from saying it because it just sounds so random out
00:36:04.120
of the blue. Yesterday was the first, um, day that we decided we were going to start dating. So
00:36:08.460
if you were to ask, I was afraid that if I were to say one day we were dating, it sounded like
00:36:13.200
very bad. But, but yeah, we, we are dating for one day and that's the full story.
00:36:19.380
So your boyfriend, girlfriend or cause you said talking stage, right?
00:36:24.180
Because yesterday we agreed, um, that we were going to start dating, but I didn't know how
00:36:28.580
that would sound on podcasts. And he actually knows that. Um, I was like, maybe we shouldn't
00:36:33.180
say, uh, we've been dating for one day. So, but that's the truth. We've been dating for a single
00:36:37.540
day, but you met him three months ago. Yes. Okay. I see. Is he, so he's a viewer, he's a fan
00:36:45.440
of the show or? Yes. He's a huge fan of the show. He's in the chat right now. I bet. Is he
00:36:50.840
fucking, yo, Noah, fucking reveal yourself, reveal yourself, Noah. What's your fucking
00:36:58.220
username? Type in the YouTube chat, um, or don't or don't. But, um, I mean, honestly,
00:37:06.340
uh, he, he should probably wait. So, okay. He introduced you to the show.
00:37:14.200
Well, I knew about the show cause of some clips of, uh, I think Gorlock the Destroyer is what
00:37:21.000
she, uh, she, yeah. Yeah. Uh, I saw those. Sure. Yeah. So he watches the show. Yeah. He,
00:37:27.020
he watches the show religiously. He loves you guys. Um, he's a big fan, fan of, uh, Arthur,
00:37:33.440
I believe his name is. Oh, Andrew. Sorry. Andrew. Okay. And, um, so I, I, I was double also
00:37:41.860
thinking, should I say he's a fan of the show? Cause I don't know the connotations that is
00:37:46.440
going to give, but, um, from what I know, and I'm not someone who tries to dig deep before
00:37:51.380
it comes to me or I find out myself, but from what I know, he's a very ambitious man, very
00:37:57.200
hardworking, uh, follows the rules. And how old is he? He is, uh, 26, 26. Okay. 26. A little
00:38:07.180
bit, a little bit of a age gap relationship there. Um, and you, so, okay. The origination
00:38:13.760
story though, was you were, you were crashing out in an Instagram story saying you want a
00:38:20.160
lawyer, a guy in the military and something. What, what was the, what was the whole thing?
00:38:26.820
And I, yeah, I was like, I want a lawyer. I need someone who's in the military and I need
00:38:30.920
someone to manage my social, social media. Um, so does he do all that? No, he's in the military.
00:38:36.180
He's in the military. Yes. But he doesn't manage your social media. No. And not a lawyer. Okay.
00:38:41.240
It would be hard to find someone who would do all that, but he's in the military. Yes. Is
00:38:44.920
he enlisted or is he an officer? He's enlisted. He's enlisted. Okay. Which branch of the military?
00:38:50.380
Marines. Marines. Semper Fi, Noah. Um, okay. So question though, you said that you were in
00:38:58.180
a, uh, you, you'd been talking for three months or whatever. You just decided yesterday to make
00:39:03.580
an official, uh, who, who brought that convo up? Was it you? Was it him?
00:39:11.220
So it was something he brought it. It was kind of a mutual conversation that we both brought up.
00:39:17.700
He had asked me a couple of days ago and I told him that it wasn't the right time. Um, because
00:39:23.360
I am someone who's also trying, I'm very ambitious in what I do as well. And I realized that if he was
00:39:31.400
going to come into my life, it has to be a decision I really think about, especially with
00:39:34.660
what I do and the controversy that I do touch on. Um, but yeah, it was a couple of days ago
00:39:39.560
when I told him the conversation needed to wait. And then yesterday, um, we got on topic
00:39:45.080
again during a phone call and, uh, yeah, he asked me to be his girlfriend. Well, I asked
00:39:53.300
him to ask me and then I said, yes. So yeah. Wait, he asked you? Yes. But I asked him. It was,
00:40:00.420
uh, it was something that I was holding back on because I was really scared and I'm still a little
00:40:05.220
bit afraid of making a mistake or is this the right thing? Is this the right time? But I think,
00:40:11.240
um, yeah, I asked him to ask me and he asked me again and I said, yes, sorry if that's a little
00:40:16.780
bit confusing, but. Okay. Wait, so this wasn't the first time he asked you? No. When did, when was
00:40:24.620
the first time he asked you? First time he asked me was a couple of days ago. Oh, and then you were
00:40:31.000
like, I'm not sure? Yes. I was like, the conversation needs to wait. The conversation, you said that? Yes.
00:40:37.300
Do we, do we help our, okay. Uh, you weren't sure what changed, what changed in like three
00:40:48.940
days, four days? The conversation needs to wait. Um, there was a lot of things that we didn't talk
00:40:53.340
about. A lot of, uh, things that, uh, we were both doing that slightly bothered each other that we didn't
00:40:59.780
go over, which was, um, part of what was making me hesitate. So we were on that call for, uh, quite the
00:41:06.680
while, I think about two hours before we headed into that conversation about girlfriend and boyfriend.
00:41:11.560
So I think it was realizing that the effort he was putting forward, you know, I am also someone who
00:41:18.380
knows that, um, some men, uh, I would say boys, because I don't, I don't believe that men do this,
00:41:24.720
but I know that some boys like to chase for a little bit and then they'll pull back. So, um,
00:41:30.680
but he has been showing up pretty well every single time I needed him for the past three months.
00:41:36.680
Uh, on top of that, um, gentleman at all. I really think he's a very good gentleman,
00:41:43.040
but you don't know someone, but I'm really just seeing how it goes and going based off of what I
00:41:49.120
have seen from him. And I just made that decision with him because, um, I, I'm gonna let God handle it,
00:41:58.420
you know. Uh, okay. All right. Uh, relationship status. Uh, single in January, it'll be four years.
00:42:08.700
Um, I've never been in a situationship. I've never been on an online date. My longest relationship
00:42:12.880
is three and a half years. And my last relationship wanted to get married. It was not my three and a
00:42:20.900
half year. And that is why we broke up. Okay. So the last one that ended four years ago,
00:42:28.620
he wanted to get married. How long was that relationship? Five months, four and a half
00:42:33.680
months. Yeah. So he proposed to you like had a ring, got down on one knee. Um, he wanted to look at
00:42:42.980
rings and asked me if I, if I would marry him, uh, if he proposed to me like any day. So
00:42:51.800
and, and no, I was too young in my eyes. You were 28, 27, 27, too young to, in my, in my opinion.
00:43:07.160
Yeah. There's 27, too young to get married. There's more things that I wanted to do. Yeah,
00:43:11.160
honestly. More things like be unemployed at 31. Okay. You could, well, more thing. What do you want
00:43:17.580
to do? Um, he wasn't the right person. I mean, that that's better than I wanted to do more things,
00:43:24.540
but, uh, don't take it personally. Um, so, okay. Uh, so you ended the relationship then.
00:43:32.160
Okay. Do you regret doing that? No, not at all. Why was he the wrong guy? Why were you with him
00:43:38.780
to begin with? It was really fun and it was really different from my three and a half year
00:43:43.460
relationship. So that's kind of why I jumped into it. Um, he lived in Malibu and we had a really fun
00:43:51.500
relationship and I just knew that he wasn't the person that I wanted to have children with. So
00:43:56.100
I'm not dating anybody that I don't think that I'm going to want children with.
00:44:00.220
But you were dating him. Well, I'm saying I've been single for four years. What was wrong with
00:44:08.260
him? Uh, I mean, honestly, he's a great person. He called me when the fires were happening. He's
00:44:15.000
we still are in touch. We're just not, I mean, I talked to him once a year. You know what I mean?
00:44:20.660
We're not like, but there was a clean break. You know how some people like continue to hook up.
00:44:25.640
No, no, no, no. Okay. Uh, I'll come back to that in a second. 3.5 year relationship. Uh, what age?
00:44:31.460
Uh, I was 23 to 27. 23 to 27. Who ended the relationship? We actually had a dream breakup.
00:44:41.440
Uh, we both mutually broke up. We wanted different things and like, we had just different views of
00:44:46.320
the future. Um, okay. Yeah. He, okay. And going back to the most recent one, this four or five
00:44:55.260
month one where he proposed to you, you said he was great, right? Good looking guy. Yeah. Good
00:45:02.940
looking. You were physically attracted to him anyways. Uh, he treat, did he treat you well?
00:45:07.440
Yeah. Very well. Uh, good, good personality relationship. Um, good personality. Yes. Yeah.
00:45:12.460
He had a good personality. Okay. He was hot tempered and I've never, I've never been around that type of,
00:45:20.340
uh, person. Sure. And in my family, like everybody's always very calm. My dad is very calm, man. So
00:45:26.920
being around somebody who kind of like flips over things, that was definitely a red flag to me. And I
00:45:33.520
didn't really find out until like three months in and I, and then I started to realize like he's kind
00:45:39.700
of crazy. But, uh, when you say he was hot tempered, like would he punch holes in walls? Would he,
00:45:45.520
what would he do? No. Um, like rate, would he raise his voice? What are we talking about?
00:45:51.060
Okay. I can give you a little example. I have a couple of them. I don't know. Was he playing,
00:45:55.180
he's playing video games and he's got tilted and he'd break his computer. What, what are we talking?
00:45:59.780
No. Um, there was one time when we were going into a restaurant and we didn't have face masks and this
00:46:08.680
was like, you know, a year and a half after COVID outbreak and we didn't have masks. And obviously
00:46:15.800
when you sit down at a restaurant, you take it off. And so just to walk in and be seated,
00:46:21.500
they were like, you have to put one on. And then he starts like fighting and arguing with the host.
00:46:26.540
I'm like, dude, this is policy. Like, I don't care. Let's go somewhere else. Like I'm the type
00:46:30.180
of person that's just like, whatever. He did not brush it off and he got really angry. And I was
00:46:35.380
just like, I can't deal with this. Wait, something about the restaurant? The face. Yeah. So he started
00:46:40.320
fighting with the host about having to wear a mask just to walk into the restaurant to sit down and
00:46:44.160
take it off. You know what I mean? It's, it's that type of stuff, like getting easily angered.
00:46:49.700
When was this? Like 2020? This is four years ago. In January, it'll be four years. So three and a
00:46:56.940
half. I mean, he was probably right though. He was probably right about face masks. Are you really
00:47:02.000
going to start a fight with a host? Are you really going to do that? That just means you're crazy.
00:47:06.700
Just go to the next place. You guys were in California, right? We were in Malibu. COVID was
00:47:11.220
pretty stupid. Yeah, it was very stupid. I mean, no, I wouldn't start a fight. Exactly. I can see why he's
00:47:18.440
frustrated or whatever. But was there any other examples though? Hot tempered? Yeah. A really good
00:47:27.160
one. This is, this is, was a definitive moment. I made a piece of toast and he had just like had
00:47:34.280
his place clean. And I really hope that he doesn't watch this. I'm going to cry. I was eating a piece
00:47:40.340
of toast and I dropped a few crumbs on the ground because I wasn't using a plate. And he grabs the
00:47:47.460
toast out of my hand and throws it on the ground. And I was like, whoa, it was crazy. Like he crunched,
00:47:55.040
crunched it and threw it on the ground. And I was like, all right, you're insane. Like I got the
00:48:00.740
memo I'd need. He was a plate. There's some crumbs. And then I proceeded to like sweep it up. And then I
00:48:06.620
was just like, you have a good day. And then like, obviously we stayed together. I didn't want to start
00:48:11.460
if I, I just knew that like he was upset over something else, stock market or whatever.
00:48:15.400
And so I just left and I was like, talk to you tomorrow. Um, hot tempered, you know, and I'm just
00:48:23.080
not used to that. I'm, I'm a person that was it like tile floor. It was. Yeah. That's pretty easy to
00:48:28.740
clean. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Probably enough for reaction. That's what I'm saying. It's like,
00:48:35.460
chill out, chill. Um, so were you gonna, um, I was never gonna marry him. I, we were in a good
00:48:48.480
relationship. So you were gonna clean it up after that. I just, I literally just like tuck the broom
00:48:52.900
out, swept it up, put it in the trash and left. Cause I was like, yeah, that was an overreaction.
00:48:57.140
That's yeah. He's got a bit of a temper there. Um, I I'm not used to that either. That's weird.
00:49:01.940
That's valid. That's a valid complaint. Like, well, what's next? You know, he's going to
00:49:07.800
fucking, I don't know. You, you spill a bit of water and he stabs you or something. I don't
00:49:13.600
know. I don't know. Uh, that, that, yeah, that's probably a little much, you know, but
00:49:17.920
he's still a great, great person. If he was just curious though, if he was here, would
00:49:22.760
he describe what happened differently? Like he apologized up and down the next day. He
00:49:27.060
was like, that was, Oh, so he admitted he made a mistake. He was wrong. But some people
00:49:31.080
have like this flip in them. Some people have this flip where they're all of a sudden
00:49:34.980
they're, they're crazy. Yeah. I don't have that. And I've never had people in my family
00:49:39.620
that were crazy. So it's hard to adjust to that. Okay. All right. Uh, we have a super
00:49:45.560
chat here. Um, uh, Felicity, you're going to read, do reads. Hi, Victoria. You're doing
00:49:51.840
amazing. Just figured out how to send a super chat. I'm so happy to be dating you. You look
00:49:56.500
amazing, Brian. I love the show. Y'all do a great job. Wish Andrew was there. He's awesome.
00:50:00.160
He's an awesome one too. Yo, no, I thank you for the super chat, man. Really appreciate
00:50:03.540
it. Uh, Andrew will be here next week. Actually two debates guys, two debates, uh, a debate
00:50:10.840
Saturday, dating talk Sunday, debate Monday. So, uh, tune in for that. Uh, no, I thank
00:50:17.160
you for your super chat. Uh, you're, you're welcome for me setting you up with Victoria.
00:50:21.900
Obviously I had a, I had a big hand in, in that probably everything you learned from the
00:50:26.660
show was, you know, all, all the like knowledge that I imparted upon you, Noah enabled you
00:50:32.280
to like properly riz up. Uh, do you prefer Victoria? Tori? What do you prefer? Victoria
00:50:38.660
is good. Victoria. Vicky? V-Dog? Victoria is good. V-Dog, V-Dog. Okay. V-Dog. She'll
00:50:44.640
accept V-Dog. Uh, but, uh, Noah, I, you know, you, you spelled my name wrong. It's with an I,
00:50:51.860
the superior spelling. So, um, although, although, you know, Noah, I was a little concerned there
00:51:00.980
because you were like trying to do the boyfriend. Oh, are we boyfriend, girlfriend? And I don't
00:51:09.420
know, man. She, uh, it didn't sound like it was an instant. Yes, Noah, I love you. Well,
00:51:19.700
have you guys said I love you? No. Oh, that's awkward. Hey, Noah, the first time you say I
00:51:26.900
love you to Victoria, it should be a super chat. You can tell your children. It'll be
00:51:32.880
so romantic. Okay. Noah, this is what you're going to do. Yeah. That's what you tell your
00:51:44.920
children. Oh, so mom and dad, like little Victoria Jr. and Noah Jr. Oh, uh, when was
00:51:53.140
the first time you guys knew you were in love? Well, uh, well, uh, well, sport. My, she,
00:51:59.880
she was on the whatever podcast, this very controversial show. And anyway, don't you mean
00:52:05.520
Andrew Jr.? Or Brian Jr.? Actually, yes. Uh, if you guys end up having kids, I insist you name
00:52:15.280
your son Brian. Fair, fair. I insist, uh, because I will facilitate. I'm also going to be the best
00:52:21.400
man at the wedding. Noah, you don't get a say in this. I'm just, I'm the best man. Felicity
00:52:27.540
is going to be the bridesmaid. Okay. Yeah. Have you ever been that bridesmaid? Felicity? No.
00:52:36.260
Hmm. Good talk. Okay. All right. Uh, where were we? Uh, relationship status. I think we've
00:52:42.660
mostly finished up, right? The single for four years. Any guys in between four year period?
00:52:48.440
I have dated two people in four years. Two people. Okay. Um, but neither of them were
00:52:55.680
for how long? Uh, serious. Um, one of them I dated for like a month and another one about two months,
00:53:05.520
maybe a month and a half. It was just short, not serious. And yeah. Okay. Uh, all right. So have
00:53:14.340
you, uh, no, I think that's about it. What about you? Um, I've been married for 10 years. We've been
00:53:20.100
together for 13. Hi, babe. He's at the hotel resting. Well-deserved rest. Um, we have two kids
00:53:25.340
together and we're here actually celebrating our 10th anniversary. Congratulations. Good. You picked
00:53:30.780
a good location, Santa Barbara. And, uh, you had two kids, right? Yes. Yes. Okay. And, um, my
00:53:36.660
understanding from the pre-show notes you sent, uh, you guys were college sweethearts and you guys are
00:53:43.560
the only people that you have, I don't know if it was dated or just been with or? Um, I had a high
00:53:49.660
school boyfriend, but that doesn't really count. Right. Um, I went on dates before I met him, but I didn't
00:53:53.440
like anybody like that well, unfortunately. So I didn't, I wasn't going to lead anybody
00:53:56.700
along. Um, I actually met him at a park bench and he let me do all the talking and I was
00:54:01.900
like, I like this guy. And, um, yeah, but we met in college. We actually went to the same
00:54:07.140
high school. I dated one of his best friends, but I hadn't met him cause he was really shy.
00:54:11.980
So he thought I was crazy cause we had a crazy breakup cause it was high school. But thankfully
00:54:16.460
he put that aside and, uh, look at 13 years later. So, oh, but yeah, also, um, yes, that's
00:54:23.420
what you were getting at. Yes. Um, I was his first girlfriend and yes, we were virgins
00:54:26.980
when we got married and we were together for three years before we got married.
00:54:30.460
Okay. Very cool. Very cool. We were virgins until marriage. Yes. Why do you make the face?
00:54:37.740
Cause they were together for three years before they got married and they were virgins at wedding
00:54:42.620
day. Yeah. That's very admirable. He was a really good guy. He knew from the beginning
00:54:49.280
it wasn't going to happen. And he's very black and white. And he was like, if you think that's
00:54:53.120
right, I think it's right. He's mixed race. No, no. He, um, I don't know. What did I
00:54:57.440
say? You said he's black and white. No, like he's very like, like black and white. Like
00:55:01.500
yes or no. No gray area. Oh yeah. But like in a good way. Like he was like, he really
00:55:05.960
respected it and he believed it too a little bit cause he was more old school. So he's
00:55:10.080
a white guy. He is very white. Sorry, babe. Love you. You're not, you're not black and
00:55:15.060
white. He's not black and white. No, my first crush ever was a black guy. So I wasn't
00:55:18.900
against that, but he's just white. Yeah. We met good times. All right. Uh, what about
00:55:23.460
you? Very single, very single. What does that mean? Um, I've been in and out of relationships,
00:55:29.500
so I don't even know what the longest one is. Um, but I think the last two kind of mattered
00:55:36.600
the most. So I'm going to say maybe how long you've been single for. Um, so I was dating
00:55:43.720
someone about like last year and that only lasted like three months. And then I actually
00:55:49.260
dated someone just this September and it lasted just a month. Uh, sorry. The, the first one
00:55:57.540
you mentioned, how long was it? That was last year. How long? Like three months. Were your
00:56:02.320
boyfriend, girlfriend? Yes. Okay. Who broke up with who? He broke up with me. So would you
00:56:08.760
say you've been single for a year about, and then I was dating someone in September? So
00:56:15.440
for just a month though, you said just a month who, who broke up with him? He broke up with
00:56:19.420
me. Okay. Uh, longest relationship. I can't really say like none of them really mattered
00:56:25.720
that much to have it be like an actual relationship. Uh, longest consecutive period of time you saw
00:56:34.280
a guy. So I do have a friend. Um, we've known each other for about like five years, I would
00:56:42.440
say, but it's not like intimate or anything. Have you had sex with him? Um, maybe at the
00:56:50.940
very beginning. Wait, what do you mean maybe? Yeah. How do you not know if you fuck somebody?
00:56:55.820
Well, it's just, um, because we just don't see each other that way, I guess. Well, regardless
00:57:03.320
of how you see each other, past, present, future, you objectively had his penis inside
00:57:09.680
of you. Yes. Right. I mean, so you did in fact have sex with him. Once. One time. When
00:57:15.160
we thought that it was going to work out. And at the very beginning. Very beginning. Like
00:57:19.960
when you just met him. We just met him. Yeah. And that was the only time you had sex. Yes.
00:57:25.700
Uh. It's very complicated. But then you went on to know him for five years. Yes. Asexually?
00:57:35.980
No. A rom, like you were just strictly friends. Not romantic. It's strictly friends. It's a
00:57:41.060
bit complicated. He has feelings kind of, but. He has a crush. Yeah. Yeah. What? Uh, just
00:57:49.760
curious though. So how soon after you said early on when you just met him, you guys hooked up
00:57:54.800
and then after that, nothing. Uh, how soon, uh, how long did you know him before you guys
00:58:00.880
hooked up? Um, about a month. Like we really tried to start something cause we had a lot
00:58:09.360
of chemistry. Okay. But, um, it would just never work out.
00:58:17.440
But he likes you. He likes me. Still. Still. But you don't like him. You're friends. Yeah.
00:58:24.720
Okay. Like it's just, it's just, it will never work out. Why? Um, I have a lot of standards
00:58:32.500
that I expect from a man. Sure. What are those? Um, someone with goals. Goals. Consistency.
00:58:41.700
Uh, when you say consistency, what do you mean? Um, when they say something, they mean it.
00:58:48.220
What, what was an instance in which he has not been consistent with you? Almost everything
00:58:53.640
in his life. It's, it's a bit chaotic. And I mean that in a nice way. He, um, he does drink
00:59:00.500
a lot. Not that. Is he an alcoholic or he just drinks a lot? I would say he, sorry.
00:59:06.260
Has he been to AA? Has he been to rehab? No. No. No. Okay. But he drinks a lot every
00:59:12.020
day? Yes. Every day. How much? I can't say. Every, every, like the only. Is he plastered
00:59:19.560
every day? Shit-faced, canned shit-faced. Definitely on the weekends. And it's sometimes. Does
00:59:25.380
he have a job? He does have a job. A really good job. What's his job? He's a sanitation
00:59:29.520
worker. Okay. For the city. Mm-hmm. That, that pays well, I think, right? Or can't, it
00:59:35.320
can? Yes. I don't know. Yeah. He does really well. Okay. Yeah. So, um, why only the sex
00:59:43.340
one time? Was it bad? I think because our, the chemistry that we had, like, it was really
00:59:49.680
good as friends. And when we tried to make it more, that's why it was bad, I guess. I don't
00:59:55.960
know if that makes any sense. But it's just. So the sex wasn't, it wasn't good? Yeah. Wasn't
01:00:00.980
the best. Wasn't good? It wasn't the best. Okay. Well, I think it's because, like, we,
01:00:04.420
we couldn't, like, work out together. You know, it's like the. Like, do Pilates or what
01:00:10.400
do you mean? No. You can go to the gym? Um, he, him? No. No. But when you say work
01:00:18.840
out, you don't mean, like, exercise? I mean, like, the feeling, like, the feelings that we
01:00:23.160
had for each other. It just, it just wasn't there. It's more of a friend thing. But I
01:00:27.760
think we're continuously, well, he's trying to continuously try to figure it out. I know
01:00:32.260
that it, it'll never work out. But, yeah. So you've not, what, not really had a
01:00:40.020
relationship? Not really. No. I mean, the, the last two, um, I only mentioned them
01:00:46.240
because I feel like what I was looking in for a man, they had. So those meant more to
01:00:52.360
me than anything else. Um, they, they had, you said you had high standards,
01:00:58.140
right? Not high standards. What was the. High expectations, I guess. High expectations.
01:01:03.760
Yeah. Like, I. Did the previous two men you were dating have those things? Yes. And
01:01:08.460
did you end it with those men? They both broke up with me. They broke up with you. Yeah.
01:01:12.180
Okay. Um. So weird. Did you hook up with, with them? One of them. One of them. Yeah. The
01:01:19.760
most recent one? Three months. Three months. Okay. Um, but besides the five-year
01:01:24.600
friendship, alcoholic guy or whatever, um, or heavy drinker or whatever it is, what's
01:01:30.520
the longest period of time you've actually been in something? Cause that, you, you
01:01:37.980
guys hooked up, but you, you weren't dating for five years. You said you know them for
01:01:43.000
five years. Longest period of time. See, it's really hard to say because I, I just
01:01:48.560
feel like if you're in a relationship with someone, you know, and at last, then
01:01:53.520
that's what matters. Like I've been in and out of relationships with people that
01:01:57.900
just didn't matter. So I don't know. So I guess like maybe a few months, like it's
01:02:03.080
been really terrible for me. But okay. So even of the ones that it didn't matter, what
01:02:09.620
is the longest period of time that you were seeing one of them? Maybe just a few
01:02:17.000
months, three months, four months, five months, no more than six months. It's
01:02:21.820
always been months. Yeah. Okay. I see. And you're, uh, 35, you said? Yeah. Okay. Do you
01:02:28.800
want to have kids? I do. Do you want to get married? Really bad. Okay. Yeah. Uh, let's
01:02:34.240
explore your high expectations. Uh, what are your, you said they need to have goals
01:02:39.440
and they need to be consistent. What else? Yeah. Um, just responsible. Responsible. What
01:02:44.580
does that mean? Um, I don't know. Sorry. I'm nervous. Okay. Um, let's start with this
01:02:54.180
looks wise. Do you have any expectations on looks? Not really. Just as long as they take
01:02:59.120
care of themselves. Okay. Um, height, any height requirement? Just taller than me. How tall
01:03:05.340
are you? Five, five. Okay. So you'll date a guy who's five, six. Yes. Ends up. Yeah. Okay.
01:03:10.620
Um, will you date a guy who's obese? Uh, no. Uh, okay. Why not? Um, I just prefer, I feel
01:03:21.800
like, I mean, I know obviously I'm a little bit overweight, but, um, I definitely want my partner
01:03:26.240
to take care of themselves in that way, especially if we're getting a little bit older. When you
01:03:31.340
say take care. So, I mean, yeah. Um, you want the guy to be fit. Is that correct? Yes.
01:03:41.960
Um, I mean, I'm not saying like, you know, being obese is necessarily a terrible thing, but.
01:03:53.120
Um, okay. But you wouldn't date a guy who's obese? No, probably not. No. Okay. Um, please
01:04:03.100
don't take this the wrong way. Do you, or like you're, you're probably obese yourself. Yeah.
01:04:11.840
Yeah. I know. But so why would you not, I'm not saying that in an insulting way. Why would
01:04:15.720
you not date a guy who's obese? No, no, that's okay. I mean, I have gained weight. I know that. Um,
01:04:19.740
I do take care of myself, you know, I'm active. So, I mean, as long as the person is active,
01:04:26.220
then I'm okay with that. Here, I'm going to pull up a photo next, uh, private chat. Get
01:04:32.260
it pulled up as quick as you can, please. So if he was like healthy, but had a few extra
01:04:35.820
pounds, like would you be okay with that? Oh yeah. I mean that, that's what I'm saying.
01:04:39.300
I'm not saying that, you know, as long as he was healthy, uh, make a smaller. So can you tell us
01:04:47.240
what your cutoff is here? What's your cutoff? I mean the 40% I wouldn't, you wouldn't do 40%.
01:04:55.480
No. What about 35%? Yeah. That that's like a dad bod 40% you wouldn't though. 40% or bigger.
01:05:01.780
No. Why not? What's wrong with the 40%? It just kind of looks unhealthy. I mean, but,
01:05:09.720
but that's just a picture. If they look like that and they were active, then that, that's
01:05:15.000
a different scenario. I'm not trying to be rude. I know. I was ready for it. Your body type
01:05:23.780
equivalent is probably the 40%. Probably. I'm not denying that. I know what I look like.
01:05:33.600
So what, what's wrong with expecting something a little bit better from a partner? Why, why
01:05:39.720
should I be okay with you? Want family and kids? I do. Of course. The question then becomes,
01:05:46.460
you mentioned you have high expectations. We only just started talking about looks, which
01:05:50.240
is important. You, it's good. You know, people want to be physically attracted to their partner,
01:05:54.780
but you're 35. You want to be married. You want to have kids. Women do have a fertility
01:06:03.060
window. Yes. Um, look, you still have time. Um, this idea that, okay, once someone's 35,
01:06:09.220
she's going to be, it's impossible. No, women can get pregnant into their forties. It does over
01:06:14.160
time though. Once you get into your, you know, early mid thirties, it does become a bit more
01:06:17.780
difficult. This isn't to say that I don't, you, you, you know, you find a guy in the next year
01:06:22.340
or two, you could probably still have two, two, three kids. Maybe, but I know men do care about
01:06:30.500
looks. They do. Women care about looks. Yes. Is it more about the look or you just want somebody
01:06:39.280
who's going to go out and do stuff with you? Or are you just scared of losing the person because
01:06:44.140
of the weight? No, see that that's kind of where the conversation went. It's not just because of
01:06:48.560
the looks. Like obviously if they are a certain weight type, but they take care of themselves,
01:06:54.300
then that's a different scenario. But if they're not taking care of themselves.
01:07:00.480
But you won't probably give a chance to a guy. Oh no, absolutely. I would like if, if they're like,
01:07:06.640
Hey, you know, like me, like I obviously have a lot to do to kind of get my body back.
01:07:11.900
And if they were in the same category, then yes, absolutely. But if someone is not willing to
01:07:19.100
take that length of bettering themselves, then no. Um, okay.
01:07:26.820
What are your, uh, looks wise, uh, can they be bald or balding? That's fine.
01:07:34.380
Okay. No, don't really care about hair. No. Um, height. You're pretty reasonable on height.
01:07:47.240
Um, I suppose so. I mean, they can't really control that though. Right. They have to be
01:07:53.420
good at other things. Like what? Other things. Oral, oral sex. Is that what? Yeah. What if a
01:07:59.980
guy won't do that deal breaker? Yeah, pretty much at this point. Yeah. I would like to date
01:08:06.780
to do, you know, to go further rather than just kind of fuck around. So. Okay. Um, uh,
01:08:15.740
what are some of the other, there's height. We do. Okay. Height, hair. You don't care about
01:08:19.520
hair so much. They can be balding. Uh, so the 30, pull up the photo again. So it's 35,
01:08:28.140
the 35% body fat and below. So 30% you're good with. Yeah. 35, but 40. Nope. Nope. Nope. Okay.
01:08:38.520
All right. Um, but if they're like going to the gym and try to better themselves, like, okay. Okay.
01:08:44.000
Yeah. I think she just wants them to have goals. I just want them to have goals. I want someone who's
01:08:48.140
goal oriented, who wants to better themselves rather than just not doing anything. Okay. Uh,
01:08:54.420
what are your other high expectations? We talked about looks, but won't you, uh, in terms of job,
01:09:00.040
uh, do you have a income requirement? Not really. I mean, um, I don't make that much,
01:09:09.680
so I would hope that they would make the same or a little bit more. Make the same or more. Okay.
01:09:17.360
Um, personality wise, is there anything there that you like? They have to be really funny and I have to
01:09:22.580
be funny. Yes. I have a very dark sense of humor. So if they can't be sarcastic, then we just
01:09:30.440
won't communicate. When you say you have a dark sense of humor, what do you mean? Like you're
01:09:35.500
sarcastic? I'm very sarcastic. Are you sarcastic to the guy you're dating? I mean, like, will you give
01:09:43.420
them attitude? Possibly. Sometimes it comes out. Do you think men like that? Um, no, I mean, I'm,
01:09:52.280
I'm also a really polite girl. Sure. Yeah. You know, but I'm not going to go and be a bitch to
01:09:57.600
someone. Right. Some people think funny and then it just translates to being like kind of catty or
01:10:02.700
bitchy or sarcastic. No, no, no. Um, yeah. Have, has that ever been an issue in the past with the
01:10:08.740
past guys you've dated? Um, you know, the sarcasm or whatever? No. Not an issue? No. Um, the, you said
01:10:16.560
a few of the guys have broke up with you when they break up with you. What do they tip? Do they cite
01:10:20.940
to anything as, uh, here's why I broke up with you? Is there anything there? Yeah, this, this is going
01:10:27.680
to sound really, really weird and I'm not trying to be cocky, but the last two guys did break up with
01:10:32.520
me for the same reason. Um, they basically said that, um, they couldn't give me the time that I
01:10:39.060
deserved. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Um, so the guy has to be really, really funny. So when I think about
01:10:49.940
funny and humor, I, I view it in sort of different ways. I'll view it like this. So there's sense of
01:10:59.160
humor, which is the ability to detect when somebody else is being funny, but you might yourself not
01:11:06.100
actually have the capacity to make, to be funny yourself since that's, I mean, some people use
01:11:11.900
that interchangeably sense of humor. Um, I think men appreciate a sense of humor in women, the capacity
01:11:21.100
or ability to sense when they're being funny, but I don't know if men actually value women who are
01:11:29.140
funny, like women who are, make them laugh. I think they do. I think they do. Really? Yeah.
01:11:39.400
I have a lot of guy friends who appreciate my comedy. Oh, guy friends. Oh, have any of them
01:11:48.120
demonstrated a romantic interest in you? Yes. And, and my ex loved that I was really funny.
01:11:55.120
So, well, pride myself on that. I would say this though. Um, the traits that you value in yourself,
01:12:03.500
it does not, men to some degree, even honest men do to some degree pander to women. Um, and I think
01:12:14.660
this is just a polite thing to do oftentimes. Um, you know, if I'm on a date with a girl and she
01:12:19.700
cares about her, I don't know, her education and her career from me internally, I frankly don't give
01:12:29.020
a fuck your education and your career mean nothing to me in terms of my attraction to you. It means
01:12:35.520
nothing zero, but it would never occur to me if I'm on a date with a woman to say, to actually say
01:12:42.360
that to her. I would, I would demonstrate a degree of, um, I mean, I'd be polite. I'd demonstrate a
01:12:50.160
degree of, I guess, feigned interest. Um, and, uh, you don't want her to make you laugh. You don't
01:12:58.640
think that that, yeah. So I guess relating that off of education and career relating it to humor. Um,
01:13:04.980
no, I don't really care about that. I mean, if she, if she's actually funny, uh, sometimes a woman
01:13:12.980
can do a goof or a gaffe and I might laugh at it, I guess. Um, sure. I guess I would, sure. That's
01:13:20.440
cool. I guess it's like a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of what I care about. I'm not going to
01:13:28.900
be like, ah, man, I'm on the fence about this girl, which is already a bad sign for the woman.
01:13:34.980
I'm on the fence about her, but she's funny. I guess I'll fuck her. I guess I'll date her. I
01:13:40.420
guess I'll marry her. Men don't care about you being funny. That's you guys. So one thing that
01:13:46.060
women do is you will think women will think about the things they like, the things they find
01:13:53.380
attractive in men. I find ambition attractive in men. I find humor attractive in men. I find
01:13:59.760
dominance or masculinity or leadership attractive in men. And you want to project
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that out and map that out onto what you think men want. Men and women don't want the same
01:14:12.680
things. Men and women are not perfectly symmetrical in what we find attractive. There's asymmetry
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in what women find attractive and what men find attractive. Women like humor, women like
01:14:25.460
masculinity, women like ambition, success, status, all those things I just listed. If men are being
01:14:33.000
honest, don't give a fuck about any of those things in women. They don't care.
01:14:50.180
So a guy who works at McDonald's, you're totally fine with that?
01:14:52.920
Obviously, I mean, why? Why obviously? But okay, explain it.
01:14:58.140
I'm not looking for somebody who works at McDonald's.
01:15:01.380
But I'm not I'm not chasing ambitious dudes. My my ex of three and a half years, he's well
01:15:08.660
on his way to being a CFO. And he's a year younger than me. And that was a huge, like, thing
01:15:15.860
in our relationship where I didn't value his ambition. I didn't like how he chased money like
01:15:24.840
it was the most important thing in the world. And who I am looking for in this world, it
01:15:30.740
has nothing to do with their ambition or their how much their income is. It has to do with
01:15:35.280
how much I enjoy being around them, how, like, chill they are, and how how our connection
01:15:42.680
is. Do you want to get married? If I connect with somebody who works at McDonald's, and I fall
01:15:46.180
in love with them? Sure. So be it. Do you want to get married and have kids? I do. Where do you
01:15:52.420
live again? In Calabasas. Okay, that's a pretty nice area, right? California? Do you want to remain
01:16:01.380
in Calabasas and Southern California? No, I don't intend to. Do you want to be a stay-at-home mom?
01:16:08.120
Um, maybe at some point, like once I've had two, maybe three kids. So you want two to
01:16:17.600
three kids? With one kid, I'm sure I could go back to work. But yes, I do want two or
01:16:22.820
three kids. But do you want to take some time off of work, perhaps a year, two years, three
01:16:27.100
years to raise your kids? Like I said, if I had one kid, I could go back to work. I think
01:16:35.360
that I could, um, you know, juggle that. But with two to three kids, I don't really want
01:16:41.280
to work. But I also... At all. When you say you, if you have two to three kids... When
01:16:46.280
my three children are young, no, I do not want to work. So how long would you not be working
01:16:50.460
then? I don't know. I haven't thought the whole thing through. Well, typically, kids will
01:16:56.680
be dependent on you until at least 18. So if you have three kids back to back, that's 20
01:17:03.140
years. Would you like to stay at home for 20 years? Potentially. Well, if you want to
01:17:09.240
live in Southern California, you better find an ambitious... No, I don't. I don't. You
01:17:12.400
better find an ambitious... Well, wherever you live, you're going to need, like, some degree
01:17:16.640
of a man who has some ambition so that he can provide... So he can enable you to be... To
01:17:24.000
not have to work. Unless, I mean, the economic realities of having children.
01:17:29.380
Oh, yeah. I understand. I understand. I just... Again, there's no, like, income range that
01:17:36.560
I'm looking for. I think that that's all just ridiculous. Love is more important, and it
01:17:41.340
is all you need. I will say my kids have never been in daycare. I just have a very flexible
01:17:47.660
work schedule, or I don't work that much anymore. And it's beyond amazing. It's so much fun. I
01:17:52.940
always thought my husband would be like a stay-at-home dad. No, he works, he supports us, and we
01:17:57.520
have so much fun. So I guess to circle things back here. So you say you don't care about
01:18:06.300
ambition. I'll go ahead and grant it. Even if it was the case for you, what I'm talking
01:18:13.320
about here is general principle. I would say in general, I would say the majority of women,
01:18:18.260
so majority would be 51% or more, or women, do actually have a pretty vested interest in
01:18:25.840
a man's economic or financial attractiveness. Maybe it's not the case for you. Maybe you'll
01:18:33.160
date the McDonald's worker, the most recent guy. No, my long relationship, when I met him,
01:18:40.920
he worked at a car wash. He made less money than me. He was making like $12 an hour, and I
01:18:46.440
fell in love with him. He slept on a mattress on the floor. Like it was a mattress on the floor.
01:18:51.660
At his home? No, at his apartment where he shared a room with his brother. Okay. Fell in love with
01:18:57.320
this guy. After being single for my entire life, I was 23 years old. He was 22. Yeah. Okay. Now he
01:19:07.280
is very successful years later, but we broke up when he was successful. Like making six figures.
01:19:15.520
Now, would you have preferred if he had his own apartment in a nice part of town? No.
01:19:22.740
So just to be clear, you, if there's two options, living with his brother, sharing the same room. So
01:19:29.100
like, if you guys want to hook up, he's got to like get his brother out there or whatever. Hey,
01:19:34.240
put a sock on the door. You prefer that over him having his own, own apartment? I just don't like
01:19:40.960
what money does to people. And I've grown up just kind of despising. What does, what does money do
01:19:47.400
to people? It changes them. It changes their entire attitude. Well, it enables them to provide for
01:19:53.760
their family. And wow, that's a really terrible thing. But I, I mean, I like, I've seen it. I've
01:19:58.880
grown up around people. I've grown up around people who didn't have a lot and then all of a sudden had a
01:20:04.280
lot, you know, and you're, you're just, you, you change your, your whole, um, demeanor and
01:20:11.520
mentality and you just change as a person and I don't like it. So. I don't think money necessarily
01:20:17.180
makes you evil. I think it. I'm not saying it makes you evil. It just changes you. I disagree.
01:20:22.620
I, I mean, it, you become more entitled and yeah, I, it, it can happen, but I also,
01:20:29.980
I don't think that's a rule. Like all people who make money. Okay. Not all of them. I'm not
01:20:37.600
talking to everyone. I don't say always and every time, but, um, a lot of the time it, that happens
01:20:44.700
and it, and money takes good people and corrupts them. Wait. So by this, if this is actually the case,
01:20:50.560
I'm talking about very wealthy people. I'm not talking about people that are just like making
01:20:54.380
a living, like 65 K a year or, you know, I'm not, I'm not talking about like general
01:20:59.240
population. Okay. Do you disagree? Okay. That's fine for you, but do you disagree in general,
01:21:04.760
in principle that women do value ambition? Absolutely. And wealth. Yeah. Cause they have no
01:21:11.560
idea. Um, so just for the sake of the rest of this convo, I understand each of you are unique
01:21:17.180
individuals, but, um, when I'm making a general state, like if I'm making a statement, I'm speaking
01:21:24.460
generalities. Okay. So it would be helpful for the sake of conversation. If you don't defer to,
01:21:30.960
well, uh, but I, uh, you know, got it, got it. Can I say my husband, I'm sorry, babe. When I met him
01:21:40.120
had no ambition whatsoever. He didn't even have a job. We were much younger, of course, and it took time,
01:21:44.960
but now he is very ambitious and takes care of us. So, I mean, sometimes you got to, you know,
01:21:50.000
let people grow up or work on themselves too, a little bit. Yeah. Uh, sure. Here we're going
01:21:54.280
to let some chats come through. Sorry for the delay on these guys. Azil's donated $200. I was in the
01:21:59.460
middle of Brian, your favorite British buck as always. Brian is laughing at the toast throwing
01:22:05.400
because he does the same when crumbs fall, but that's Brian, our favorite queen. Hashtag free
01:22:12.020
Felicity. Hashtag Michael is king. Uh, yeah. I'm, I'm known to sometimes be a little sassy,
01:22:16.880
I guess, but, but, uh, yeah, the, the crump that, that I can acknowledge that snapping over some
01:22:23.640
crumbs is a little, a little ridiculous, I guess you should have had a fucking plate. Yeah.
01:22:33.980
Azil's donated $200. Brian almost forgot. Hope you had a great Halloween bro. And as you
01:22:41.580
probably saw Michael breaking records from the clouds, even trending on Twitter, the best
01:22:47.860
hashtag free Felicity. Hashtag Michael is king. Yeah. Um, Felicity, if you don't, if you do a
01:22:57.680
champagne pop, uh, Felicity will moonwalk. Do you know how to moonwalk? No. Well, she's
01:23:04.280
about to learn. Uh, so if you do champagne pop, Felicity will do a moonwalk. Is she old enough
01:23:08.940
to know what a moonwalk is? She, she's actually a vampire. Oh, okay. She's 107. I see it. She's
01:23:15.400
got the looks for it. She's got, yeah, the radiant, really nice skin. Yeah. Yeah. Don't eat garlic
01:23:20.960
around her though. Cause she'll fuck you up and slash die. Um, pasty George donated $200. Yeah.
01:23:29.580
Thank you, man. Sorry for the delay. Get yourself a simp black guy. They like big white women with
01:23:34.800
big chubby booties at this point in your life. What other options do you have?
01:23:41.860
Oops. Um, do you want to respond to, I mean, I can't really argue with that, but no, have
01:23:47.980
you ever like dated a black guy? No. Oh no. Okay. Yeah. Cause I, yeah. Um, thank you,
01:23:56.180
pasty George for that. That was, thank you. We have a super chat here. Papa penguin. This show
01:24:01.180
mirrors why Felicity, this show mirrors why Western society feels adrift. It rewards noise over
01:24:08.300
thought and imitation over intellect. We're unhappy because we gorge on context like this
01:24:13.280
instead of substance humanity thrived when men and women faced hardship together. Stop feeding the
01:24:18.820
beast. This show. Okay. That's so true. Like when things are hard, you get so much closer.
01:24:24.840
Uh, so he says we're unhappy because, okay. So he's a hater. Uh, we're unhappy because we
01:24:31.000
gorge on content like this instead of substance. Humanity thrives when men and women faced hardship
01:24:37.280
together. Stop feeding the beast. Um, look, Papa penguin. I'm, I'm open to taking this criticism.
01:24:45.880
Have you ever done any like anti-feminist advocacy at all? Because my position would be, I have this
01:24:54.320
podcast in terms of the noise that's out there in terms of content. Uh, I have, you know, I have a
01:25:00.900
decent audience, decent viewership, but in terms of the scale and scope of my influence as compared to
01:25:09.020
the feminist propaganda that's out there, that's been propagandizing women for generations since the
01:25:15.660
mid to eight, mid to late 1800s, but especially in the past 30, 40, 50, 60 years. Uh, I don't think
01:25:23.040
there's any sort of comparison that could be made. Uh, if, if we're making some sort of accusation that
01:25:27.980
my whatever podcast with 5,000 live concurrent viewers, which is okay, but it's not really
01:25:38.000
anything that's going to move the needle. Uh, I would simply just ask you why, if, if this is really
01:25:44.620
your primary ambition, why don't you just go and protest all the, I don't know how you would do it.
01:25:52.560
You could protest every single feminist class, feminist program that's at every single university
01:25:58.000
in this country. Uh, you could, that would be much more productive, I think, because actually feminism,
01:26:05.420
I think is the primary divider between men and women, not a, uh, in terms of our audience, mid-tier
01:26:19.300
online audience viewership. This is, this is a drop in the bucket compared to the, like, the whatever podcast
01:26:29.080
is a single drop of water and feminism is an ocean. It is all the oceans in the world combined.
01:26:37.200
That's where your focus should be, to be honest, Papa Penguin. If you're in the chat though,
01:26:42.320
why don't you give me your response and I'll just respond to you. Uh, Papa Penguin, go ahead,
01:26:47.800
type in the chat. I'm looking at the chat right now. Oh, by the way, somebody, he just called us
01:26:53.520
mid-tier. No, no, no. I don't, you guys are not mid-tier. The, the view, when I say mid-tier,
01:26:59.580
I'm talking about our audience, our viewership numbers. The, uh, you guys are all great. You
01:27:07.620
got every, my audience is all giga chad, giga chad. You all have, you know, you guys are all great.
01:27:13.880
I'm saying 5,000 viewers. That's not influence. That's not really influence. Uh, is he in the chat?
01:27:22.440
Uh, he wrote, uh, who takes modern feminists, who takes modern feminists, feminist, you misspelled
01:27:31.560
that by the way. Uh, they're an intellectual joke. What, hold on. Feminism is deeply seated
01:27:39.660
in academia. Every single year, by the way, the collective endowment of all the universities and
01:27:46.280
colleges in this country is something like $1 trillion. That's massive institutional
01:27:52.200
and systemic influence. Every single college, almost every single college and university in
01:27:58.240
this country has a women's studies, gender studies, feminist studies, uh, gender, I think it's a gender
01:28:03.860
studies program. Every single corporation, major corporations steeped in feminist ideology, the
01:28:10.160
news, the media, the government, uh, journalism, media, it's all feminist. This, who takes modern
01:28:17.340
feminism seriously? Uh, the mainstream, the mainstream does. So I don't understand that that doesn't
01:28:26.260
even make sense. Um, so I don't know. But, uh, yeah, $1 trillion collective endowment for
01:28:36.140
all these universities. Um, it's massively, it has its claws, its tentacles wrapped in pretty much
01:28:44.860
everything. Um, feminism is absolutely taken seriously. It's the, it's the mainstream narrative.
01:28:51.020
Um, even in the conservative movement. Um, anyways, we'll get off of that though. If you want to send
01:28:58.160
another one, I'll engage you. But, um, I, are we caught up on all the chats? I think so. Yeah. Uh,
01:29:04.480
where were we, we were talking about high expectations and then Lauren there, Lauren,
01:29:12.520
what's that? I don't know. I don't know. What, what were your other high expectations you said
01:29:21.040
you had? Oh, funny. You, you need, oh, you need a guy who's, who's very, very funny. Very funny.
01:29:31.240
Would you, would you settle for average funny? Yes. But that's not very funny. Well, any sense
01:29:38.080
of humor. But what if he, you know, maybe he makes you chuckle just one time per week.
01:29:43.180
Is that not satisfactory for you? No. Would you? For a woman? Yeah. What if she just was
01:29:51.380
boring? She can be fucking mute. Really? I don't give a fuck. No. Really? I don't care. Why? I don't
01:29:58.380
care. I don't care. So what are you looking for then? Humor, humor is not a priority for
01:30:02.380
men. We don't care. Well, I mean, any kind of, I'll tell you in a sec. What's that? Any
01:30:06.820
kind of engagement, like. Oh, sure. I think, I mean, look, I think high IQ women are attractive,
01:30:11.300
but, um, I don't like, I don't, well, I don't need to have deep convos. Don't care. Don't
01:30:16.600
need funny. Don't care. Um, it's just not, it's not important. I understand the deep convos
01:30:23.840
thing. That's not important. Yeah. Life is comedy. You just, yeah. That's what, what
01:30:30.080
Netflix is for. I don't, I don't understand this, this, this, whether it's men. I think
01:30:36.220
women do this more, but I don't understand this. Uh, men are not here to be your dancing
01:30:42.940
monkeys. We're not here to be your entertainment. We're not here to be your Netflix, to be your
01:30:48.560
HBO Max, to be your fucking Hulu, to be your Amazon. If you want to, your entertainment
01:30:55.380
need to be met. There's a lot of media out there. I don't think it's men's job to be your
01:31:03.400
entertainment. Media is for zombies. Yeah. I mean, it's not. Well, okay, but we're not
01:31:10.780
here to be your dancing monkeys. We're here to be your boyfriends. We're here to be your
01:31:14.700
husbands. I don't, this idea that, uh, not to say that there's something wrong. Like
01:31:19.600
if your boyfriend's funny, there's nothing wrong with that. That's good. That's great.
01:31:22.820
Wonderful. You have a positive quality, but this idea that when you say you have high
01:31:27.420
expectations and the guy has to be very, very funny, bare minimum, I think. I feel like
01:31:35.460
you're making a big conversation about something kind of small. I just, just like personality,
01:31:40.840
personality, you know, like not boring. Okay. Tell me what, when, do you think you have
01:31:49.940
a good personality? Like, uh. So, so. I say, you know. Like, are you charismatic? I can
01:31:56.800
be. Can be. Yeah. Okay. Um, do you, do you value charisma? Like, does your boyfriend need
01:32:05.800
to have charisma? I mean, a good personality? I suppose so. How about that? Let me ask.
01:32:13.240
I don't want someone like monotone, you know. My dear, you are monotone. You're monotone.
01:32:19.880
You're a little monotone. I'm not trying to be me. Well, I'm nervous. I'm just nervous.
01:32:22.400
You're a little monotone. Yeah. Yeah. But it's kind of this thing where it's like, you don't,
01:32:26.900
you don't, you, these traits that even you possess, you don't want them in a man. We
01:32:34.280
talked about the, you know, you wouldn't take the guy with a 40% body fat. Um, okay. Are
01:32:43.940
you willing to settle? I shouldn't, I don't even, will you date a guy who's average? Yes.
01:32:51.100
But average personality, average humor. See, I wasn't saying that that was like a number
01:32:59.660
one quality. He has to be funny, but, but it's, well, I was asking you what your high
01:33:05.160
expectations are. My high expectations. Didn't you say he has to be really funny? So when
01:33:10.980
you say he has to be, I'd rather not waste like 10 minutes on the convo if you don't actually
01:33:17.380
hold the standard. That I understand. Okay. So you, all right. So you, he doesn't have
01:33:21.740
on one hand you said on one hand. If he's boring, it would never work out. He has to
01:33:26.800
have a boring guy though. What's wrong with that? There's, I wouldn't be able to have a
01:33:31.400
conversation with them. It's just, if it's just like straight edge, like business all
01:33:37.960
the time. What if he's a good guy? He's a good, nice guy, but you know, he's not very
01:33:43.520
funny. He's, he's kind of just a normal guy. I feel like they get funny as you get to know
01:33:48.960
them though. Sure. I mean, sure. I think that I'm, I always give chances. Well, yeah. I
01:33:55.960
mean, I think the first impression, some people are flowers. They blossom as you get to know
01:34:01.040
them, but some people are just, doesn't matter. You've known somebody for two years. They're
01:34:05.060
kind of dull. Um, I would say even if like somebody is not stereotypically funny, like
01:34:12.060
my husband, like as I've gotten to know him, he's like, so everything he does is so funny
01:34:16.280
and so cute, you know, where at first I'd be like, Oh my gosh, you're so lame. You know,
01:34:20.360
it's kind of after you've fallen in love, the guy doesn't have to meet all the criterias you
01:34:26.440
have because they will feel themselves. Yeah. Uh, like a person you fell in love is going
01:34:34.220
to be more handsome or I don't know if it goes like that with guys. If you've met a pretty
01:34:38.820
girl, is she going to be the most gorgeous girl in the world? If you fall in love? I
01:34:44.120
think so. Um, in a way at least. Um, so he doesn't have to be very funny. He can just
01:34:52.640
be average funny. Okay. Yes. But then when you say you have high expectations, what are
01:34:59.880
those? I guess just someone who has goals and ambitions like we talked about before being
01:35:06.620
responsible. When you say goals, what do you mean? Um, well I have some goals that I want
01:35:12.240
to accomplish. So, um, well I'm a data analyst, so I'd like to take my career a little bit further
01:35:20.020
than it is now. Um, so I'd want someone, you know, with that same goal set. Do you think
01:35:29.960
we've like infantized men? Cause we just assume they like, like we're like high standards all
01:35:34.620
the time and we just assume like men can't be responsible or they can't do this or have
01:35:38.700
goals. Like, what do you think? No, no, I'm not, I'm not saying that. I'm, you know, it's,
01:35:43.380
I guess it's difficult to explain. I feel like you just want to be swept out of your feet
01:35:48.200
and just magically fall in love. And when you wake out of it, you're not just going to be
01:35:54.900
go ahead. No, continue. Continue. What's the word? Uh, you don't want to be disappointed in the guy
01:36:00.700
you fell in love, but first you need to get the guy and he has to make you feel like a princess or
01:36:06.640
you will have to sweep your feet. It's not exactly like that. Maybe the disappointment part,
01:36:12.720
I would like to not be disappointed. And I, I kind of feel like through my whole dating
01:36:19.380
part of me is always just kind of been disappointment, but I don't think it's because
01:36:25.640
like my standards were too high. I've dated a lot of men, but, but you said you have high
01:36:31.120
expectations. Well, I do. I think being 35 now, um, I, like I said, I don't want to just mess around
01:36:40.460
with these guys anymore. So I would assume that they would have like some future goals.
01:36:47.660
So when you say goals, what are we talking like minimum yearly income? Um, you wrote here,
01:36:53.720
you want the guy to make $80,000, but so are the goals just financial? No, no, not financial. Just
01:37:00.100
being a responsible person. And I think that has to deal with the men that I have dated. Maybe
01:37:05.320
haven't been that responsible. Um, so just hold yourself to a standard. She's like, just looking
01:37:11.300
for somebody that wants to better themselves. Yeah. Just someone that wants to, cause I want to
01:37:15.460
better myself. If I could give you some advice. Yeah. Yeah. Be okay. All of the things that you're
01:37:19.420
looking for in somebody else, embody them. Like if you're, if, if you are ambitious, you might attract
01:37:27.880
somebody who's also ambitious. If you're really fit, if you're going to the gym, whatever, you might
01:37:31.880
attract somebody who's really fit. Like all the things that you're looking for in people, they're
01:37:36.000
probably also looking for similar things. I know that Brian likes to disagree that a guy who's funny
01:37:41.000
is not looking for a girl who's funny, but he might be. No, I'm saying in general, there's asymmetry
01:37:48.720
between what men and women find attractive. So are there, again, this is talking in generalities.
01:37:56.600
Are there, you can point me to a man or some men who do find humor attractive in women.
01:38:05.860
Majority of men don't give a fuck. I'm not exactly saying that two people need to be the funniest
01:38:11.000
people in the room to be attracted to each other, but having a similar sense of humor. For example, I
01:38:16.680
love South Park. I want my partner to love South Park. We will watch South Park together. So wait,
01:38:21.500
wait, wait, it's a deal breaker. If the guy doesn't like South Park, well, we, he can like family guy.
01:38:26.240
No, no, no. But like what you're, what you're listing there is like a pretty base, base,
01:38:31.820
like very, I'm giving just an example. Okay. If the guy didn't like South Park, but he's
01:38:37.120
otherwise great, you're, you're not dating him. Um, maybe not. Oh my God. These girls are not
01:38:44.760
dating great guys because they don't like their same fucking people. I don't think that's why.
01:38:50.020
That's crazy, bro. These, Oh my God, he, whatever. He doesn't like this thing, whatever.
01:38:56.240
Um, that's not my criteria. Oh, you don't like this show. We can't date. That's not it. But
01:39:02.040
I'm just saying like, we might have the same sense of humor. So I fall in love with him. That's all
01:39:06.420
I'm saying. Or you fall in love with him because you have a baseline physical attraction to him
01:39:11.900
and he meets like your, like primary needs in terms of other things. Are, are you disagreeing
01:39:18.700
with that? 1920. I don't, my primary needs, you have to meet my primary needs. Yeah. Like
01:39:24.700
And like being, being a well put. Yeah. How would, what would that have to do with the 1920s? In fact,
01:39:29.500
it would be the opposite. Hold on. When I say primary needs, I'm just talking about like the
01:39:33.980
important stuff. Like he's a good person. He's virtuous. He treats you well. He's kind. He's,
01:39:41.400
and if you prefer, if you prefer the traits, like he's a, he's a masculine guy and he's a leader and
01:39:46.980
he's these sorts of things, that's way more important than like you guys liking the same
01:39:52.020
music or TV shows. Again, that's, that was not my point is having a common interest. That's not,
01:39:59.240
that wasn't my point. It's having like this same, a similar sense of humor and like having the same
01:40:05.020
level, being on, being on the same page about things, being able to like read each other's mind,
01:40:08.540
like you give them a look and you know what they're thinking because you, you're thinking a
01:40:13.340
similar thing. You know, it's, it's that type of relationship and in the things that you're
01:40:17.840
listing, I know a dozen dudes that, that meet that criteria. Good guy, you know, treats me nice.
01:40:24.500
Like, yep. Wait, keep going with that. So good looking. Yeah. Face attraction. Good looking. Makes a decent
01:40:31.360
income. Like whatever. Why are you listing these things like they're nothing? These are, hold on. I don't
01:40:37.120
understand this. Uh, I don't know what exactly you women are looking for. I don't know. I don't know.
01:40:42.300
When you present to me, when women present to me, he's, he's on paper, right? He's
01:40:49.260
everything. He's good looking. He treats me well, comes from a good family. Uh, he's
01:40:53.980
kind, he's generous. He, he, he has a good job. He treats me. Uh, I think I already said
01:40:59.220
that he treats me well. What the fuck is missing? Pick the fucking guy. You guys are
01:41:06.200
crazy. You, what do you want? You want him to abuse you? You want him to treat you like shit?
01:41:11.080
I've never been in a toxic relationship. There's something about women. You guys want
01:41:13.760
a guy who's kind of got a rough edge to him. You guys want a guy who kind of treats you
01:41:18.520
like a dick. I think there's something there when women can say on paper, he's everything.
01:41:23.580
He's good looking. He's a good person. Pick the fucking guy. Then what is missing? Tell
01:41:30.260
me. Compatibility. Compatibility. Imagine if I sat here and said, she's beautiful. She's
01:41:38.280
amazing. She treats me kindly. Uh, she's, uh, whatever her looks are everything that
01:41:43.700
I want. She's a virgin, whatever, all the, all the things that men care about. Yeah.
01:41:48.220
Men, men prefer, men prefer, uh, that in women. She's all the great things, you know, but I
01:41:53.860
just didn't feel the vibe. You know, I didn't feel the vibe. That's never gone through my
01:41:58.360
mind. The, trust me, the vibe will be there if everything on paper is there, but there's
01:42:04.760
something about women y'all want. There's something like, I don't know if it's dysfunction,
01:42:09.580
no offense, where it's like, I just didn't feel the click. What, what click you want him
01:42:14.180
to trigger? You're like anxious attachment style. Is that what it is? You, you, you want
01:42:20.080
him to kind of be a little, you know, a little bit of a dick. Is that it? What did it, what's
01:42:23.840
missing? Nothing. He's too nice. He's too, he's great. He's good looking. Great job. He's
01:42:29.440
so nice. Treats me well, but I just didn't feel the, I didn't feel the click. You want
01:42:34.560
the jerk. You want the bad boy. You want the guy with a bit of edge. That's
01:42:38.560
dysfunction. Just saying. I don't actually. Oh, okay. And I've never had that. I've never
01:42:44.500
had like, you know, a responsible man that wants goals that way. And I think that's my
01:42:50.960
problem. Can I say, oh sorry, go ahead. No, go ahead. I think you don't actually have to
01:42:54.420
have anything in common. Kind of like what you're saying, Brian, because like the longer
01:42:57.440
you're together, like their hobbies become your hobbies. Like I knew nothing about cars.
01:43:00.940
Now I think I know quite a bit. I used to be, used to be very fit and sporty and he's
01:43:06.120
not, you know, like, but yeah, we, we just, you know, we gave each other the time. Yeah.
01:43:11.000
Like we gave each other a chance and it worked out really great.
01:43:13.880
Yeah. And on that note about, um, a lot of women now wanting that sort of bad boy side
01:43:18.880
to men. I do think that, um, a lot of women who have been in and out of toxic relationships,
01:43:24.000
you know, it's not an excuse. Everybody needs to take accountability for their
01:43:27.200
actions. They are attracted to those sorts of things. So a lot of women will confuse,
01:43:32.780
um, pressure and what they will confuse the anxious attachment for what is good for them.
01:43:39.240
Um, I also think part of why we are having all of this problem with women and men, really
01:43:44.400
everyone kind of having all these, you know, oh, I have to have this, this, this, but one
01:43:49.180
not being that themselves and embodying that themselves. Um, and I just think it's a problem
01:43:55.620
with social media a lot. Um, I think we are kind of all up in our heads thinking, oh,
01:44:01.580
like I can get this, I can get this, that the reality of that is so small. It's really
01:44:06.320
small. And, um, also if they were to exist, everything that you have on your paper,
01:44:12.960
very likely they wouldn't. Um, we see so many things that we think we want because it looks
01:44:18.460
perfect and something that we want, even though usually it's not that. Sure. Uh, Papa Penguin is
01:44:24.360
being a massive cuck. So I'll respond to him in just a moment, but first, uh, pasty gets priority.
01:44:32.580
Pasty George donated $200. I do not agree with Papa Penguin's comment that whatever podcast is
01:44:39.880
content without substance. I believe this podcast is essential for men, especially nowadays with
01:44:46.240
today's feministic women, neat arts. Yo, Pasty George, I do appreciate that. Yeah. This idea,
01:44:53.360
I don't understand like in terms of the other media that's available out there too. Okay. So pretty
01:44:59.220
much everything on Netflix, everything on cable TV, this, this, this idea that the conversations that are
01:45:08.360
being had on this podcast are lacking in substance comparatively to the, like 99% of the other media
01:45:17.260
that's available. Like you look at the consumption, by the way, I like sports. I don't really watch much
01:45:23.140
sports. I maybe watch the super bowl, maybe watch some NFL highlights. That's about it. Uh, and I
01:45:30.060
don't, I'm not making a criticism of sports, but like there it's very entertaining. It's fun to watch.
01:45:35.340
It's exciting. That's not like in terms of intellectual depth, like football there. It's not,
01:45:42.400
that's, it's just fun. It's fun entertainment, but like that's mass consumed media. This idea that
01:45:48.300
media necessarily has to have some depth. I don't, I reject the premise penguin, but then I would also
01:45:57.440
reject that the show doesn't have depth. The show has massive depth. We get into like the most
01:46:02.820
pressing issues, big labia matter, uh, of our time. We get into the most pressing issues. We talk,
01:46:09.720
you know, mostly it's about dating, but we get into politics and this other stuff. Since you're
01:46:13.600
being a little whiny brat though, Papa penguin, uh, Felicity, read these for me. We're seeing a
01:46:19.800
complete generation of young men and women walking away from each other. Birth rates are crashing.
01:46:24.040
You're feeding that hate. That isn't good for anything that resembles rational thought.
01:46:29.060
Hold on, dude. You, uh, no offense, penguin. You're mods. You don't have to ban him,
01:46:34.760
but he's just retarded. Penguin, penguin. You think birth, birth rates were a straight line.
01:46:42.100
And then whatever podcast comes out in 2022 and then the birth rates were crashing. No fucking
01:46:48.100
retard. Birth rates have been crashing. Uh, I don't know how old you are probably before you were,
01:46:53.800
I don't know. Wait, before you might've even been born. Birth rates have been on the decline
01:46:59.180
for a very, very long time. Trust me. It has nothing to, if anything, this podcast, uh, the,
01:47:05.600
the sort of narratives I'm propagating have the opposite effect. I'm in favor of the nuclear family.
01:47:12.500
I'm in favor of people having kids. I'm a bit, I'm a bit anti-marriage, but I don't believe in
01:47:19.000
promiscuity in men or women. Uh, I think that you should find somebody, you should have kids with
01:47:24.160
them. Uh, I have some criticisms of, uh, you know, marriage under the state, which it is in the West.
01:47:29.920
It's not really under religion. Marriage is typically a function of the state. Uh, but
01:47:35.080
I'm in favor of that. Have kids get married or excuse me. Sorry. Sorry. Well, if you want to get
01:47:41.200
married, but, uh, or don't get married actually. Well, whatever. I don't know. I need to figure out
01:47:45.400
my position on that, but, uh, at least find somebody and have that person be your person
01:47:50.960
and have kids with them. And, uh, Brian, I agree with all of that, but in his defense,
01:47:58.440
what he's saying is you're, you're exposing woman, like you're, you're, and I like this show. I do
01:48:05.220
watch it. It is entertaining, but you are exposing woman for like, I've watched so many girls on here
01:48:12.060
that I just sat at home and was like, wow, what a dumb, you know, and like, what a three Oh four
01:48:18.740
or whatever. Um, and I, it breeds like almost hatred of woman. Whoa. That's on you. Hold on.
01:48:28.480
Are you fucking misogynist? Holy shit. I slightly am. I've been anti-feminist for the last decade
01:48:35.200
and I am slightly misogynistic to other women. They, they seem to think that only because
01:48:41.900
I, no, no, I'll explain to you. Hold on. I'll explain to you why. Land the plane, land the
01:48:46.320
plane. I'll explain to you why. Land the plane, land the plane. I, um, well, I've, I've just grown
01:48:52.500
up with not the best females in my life. So I've like been kind of raised by my father and I've
01:49:00.120
realized that men in general are, I don't want to say like dominant, but they're, they're the stronger,
01:49:07.360
smarter, faster. They've invented most inventions in this world. It, we're not equal. We're not
01:49:12.300
the same. And I'm not saying that women shouldn't have rights. I'm not, I'm not like going, you
01:49:17.140
know, but I am slightly, I mean, women think I'm misogynistic. They do. Well, okay. Hold
01:49:23.700
on. Holy shit. There's a lot there. God damn. Let me, I didn't mean to like throw out a bomb labeling
01:49:29.000
me, but you're more radical than I am because I don't, I refuse to take on the moniker or label
01:49:34.280
of misogynist. If somebody calls me a misogynist, I wholeheartedly reject the categorization.
01:49:40.960
You embrace the cat. Hold on. You just admitted you're a fucking misogynist. You're more radical
01:49:45.300
than I am. I'm not a misogynist. I don't, I can sit here and say, I categorically do not
01:49:50.380
hate women. I think women are great. There are specific women I might disagree with on,
01:49:54.640
but that's more radical of a position than I take. Furthermore, being anti-feminist doesn't
01:49:59.580
mean you're anti-woman. Oh no, I know. So I don't know where the conflation is there. Hold on. Hold on.
01:50:03.980
Let me finish my response. And then, and then hold on this idea that, um, that I am propagating
01:50:11.340
that, that I'm exposing these women who come on the show and are given a microphone. That's
01:50:17.620
if somebody, I, I'm not responsible for the words that come out of somebody else's mouth. I'm a man.
01:50:24.140
I'm responsible for what I say. I'm an adult. What, whatever I say, I'm responsible for. If a woman
01:50:31.500
comes on the show and, uh, is happy that Charlie Kirk was unalived or says some retarded shit,
01:50:37.400
or I don't know, whatever the stupid shit that people say on the show, by the way,
01:50:41.400
I've said stupid shit on the show. Andrew Wilson, who's a frequent guest. He's probably said,
01:50:46.220
we've all said, everybody says stupid shit. I've been clipped. I've said dumb shit, whatever.
01:50:51.460
I'm not responsible for what other people say on the show. And if other people come on the show,
01:50:56.280
be them men, myself, men, women, whatever, and they say stupid things and they expose themselves,
01:51:01.880
I'm not exposing them. They're exposing themselves. So I'm not going to do this thing where he makes
01:51:07.380
them look stupid. No. If you come on the show, there's a microphone here. I'm not forcing the
01:51:12.160
words to come out of your mouth, but it's a platform for it. That's what I'm saying.
01:51:16.400
Well, then the world is a platform for people to say stupid things. The internet's a platform for the,
01:51:20.980
should we blame the internet though? Maybe we should. Again, I'm not, I was not blaming you. I was just
01:51:25.740
saying that this podcast does propagate a sort of hatred. Oh, no, no, no. I don't want to say
01:51:32.120
I reject the premise. In order for that to be the case, I myself would have to, I would have to
01:51:42.100
distribute commentary and words that would, would incentivize or influence people to hate women.
01:51:53.840
And I, I, again, very, I'll disavow that very quickly. I don't hate women.
01:52:01.200
I don't think you do. Women are great. Misogyny is wrong. But yeah, so I don't really understand the
01:52:08.260
criticism. I don't think you hate women, but you have talked down to them. You have barked at them
01:52:13.800
or, or treated them a certain way because they're, you know, talking a little slow or you've called them
01:52:19.580
out on things when they were caught off guard and, you know, and let me respond. Hold on one
01:52:26.440
thing at a time and then you can gish gallop the rat, I guess. Um, so, so hold on, repeat the first
01:52:34.020
part of your criticism there. I talked down to women. Was that the first part? You've done it.
01:52:39.900
Okay. I also have talked down to men, I guess, but, uh, I, I don't understand. So talking down
01:52:48.260
to, I don't know if I even want to, yeah, sometimes I'm, I'm can disagree with somebody,
01:52:58.340
but disagreeing with women is not misogyny. And if I do so in a rhetorically flourishing sort of
01:53:05.520
flourishing, flourished, rhetorical flourish sort of way. And, um, I have a tone to it that wouldn't
01:53:13.900
be misogynistic. Disagreeing with women is not misogyny. No, I understand that. Believe me.
01:53:19.540
But sure. I'll go ahead and grant. But your tone and your demeanor towards some certain woman on the
01:53:24.980
show or I've seen it. I've seen it. Yes. Yes. But I just want to say. I'm not even going to argue.
01:53:29.840
I won't hold on. I won't even argue with you. I've absolutely done it. I've absolutely had a bad
01:53:35.280
tone with people. I've absolutely probably, you know, had an attitude with somebody, had a tone
01:53:40.480
with somebody. Um, so what does that have to do with misogyny? I'm saying I've been called a
01:53:48.020
misogynist because I am anti-feminist because I've been an anti-feminist for the longest time. I have
01:53:56.360
not, you know, been so favored by the female population. Yeah. But I don't think that they've
01:54:06.000
called me misogynistic. If you have 300 episodes of a five, six, seven, eight, nine hour podcast,
01:54:14.860
you're, there are bound to be moments, especially with people who have ideological disagreements with
01:54:19.740
you. There are bound to be moments that can be found where people have a harsh tone or say words
01:54:26.800
that are rude or aggressive or whatever. This wouldn't point towards, you could, you can make
01:54:34.780
a compilation that could last an hour, probably if you wanted to, uh, that wouldn't point towards
01:54:42.100
evidence of misogyny that would point towards, there are specific disagreements with specific
01:54:48.160
people. I'm not going to dispute your claim that I've had bad tones in the past, or I've said mean
01:54:53.220
things won't even dispute it, but that wouldn't just because you disagree with a woman that doesn't
01:55:00.200
point to sexism or misogyny. Okay. Is that your, is that your argument though? I'm trying to
01:55:06.380
understand your argument. I didn't call you a misogynist. But so you just wanted to point out
01:55:09.840
that there have been times where, well, no. Okay. I pointed that out because my statement was that
01:55:15.540
this show exposes females at their, like some of the worst things that they have to say. And it
01:55:24.140
makes men think, wow, girls are, you know, bad or whatever. And if you're inviting on like not
01:55:31.060
just, just average people, whoever, if you're not inviting on like the best and brightest, like
01:55:35.420
when Candace Owens was on here, that makes women look really, really good. She makes women
01:55:39.980
seen. No, she made the, you, you think I'm mean. Candace Owens eviscerated the girls on that panel.
01:55:46.720
If I bring on a bad-ass woman, like Rachel Wilson, for example, they'll make the woman look worse than
01:55:53.240
I do. I know, I know. So this, I don't understand. But that's the population, what I'm saying is like
01:55:57.320
if there was a population of people who were more like her. We have a good panel here. No, no, no,
01:56:01.940
I'm not. Hey, the girls here should be, the women here should be protesting. The women here should
01:56:08.260
be protesting what you're saying. You're calling these women stupid. You're calling the women stupid.
01:56:12.180
I get your point. I totally get that point. But I see the other way around because when I see
01:56:18.200
a dumb girl opening her mouth here and bunch of them, I, the feeling I get is not like I hate women
01:56:26.080
or that there's, goddamn, there's a lot of stupid people. Yeah. But mostly I get the feeling like,
01:56:31.760
goddamn, I'm a freaking catch compared to that. So it's more like a, I don't see it as spreading
01:56:37.940
hatred because if you see a person, a girl that is like really dumb the next time you meet somebody
01:56:44.500
who is not that dumb, you, you're kind of grateful for it. But imagine being a man watching this and
01:56:50.500
you're, you're not, you don't know these girls, but you keep seeing different ones on every week and
01:56:55.280
there's always, you know, but then you go on a date and you have a girl that is not that crazy
01:57:01.800
or not that dumb. You should be like, okay, well, women come on the show super unprepared. Like
01:57:06.540
they'll say, I've never even heard of this or I've never watched anything. No, I'm saying they come
01:57:09.880
unprepared and that is stupid. That is not smart. Well, that's hold on. Hold on. The vast majority of
01:57:16.760
women who come on this show, we do some outreach, but also a lot of people reach out to us. The majority
01:57:23.880
of the guests who do come on the majority, they've, they've reached out to us. Many of these women
01:57:30.520
have had weeks, months, sometimes longer. Like they, they reach out. Uh, I don't know if anybody
01:57:39.200
here, I'm saying it's on them. Some people have maybe at this table reached out a couple of weeks
01:57:44.680
ago, maybe a couple of months ago, people have time to do the preparation. You're right though.
01:57:50.140
If they come unprepared, that's on them. That's how the full live streams are available. There's
01:57:56.720
clips everywhere. You can see, you can see, get a feel for the show. Um, I don't know. Um,
01:58:04.780
you said that you don't care about the sense of humor and stuff, but how does it make you feel
01:58:09.800
to watch the show and see a lot of dumb girls like over and over again? Is it more? Hold on.
01:58:16.100
I reject that the women who come, we do get some dumb women on the show, but this idea that we're
01:58:22.300
specifically selecting. No, I didn't mean that, but I mean, we, I would even argue like, for example,
01:58:29.460
I'm a college dropout. So this idea that, Oh, Brian, you're some intellectual Titan who's punching
01:58:35.200
down on these retarded fucking elementary school dropouts. No, most of the women who come on the
01:58:41.940
show are more college educated than I am. Uh, you know, I'm not like, again, I'm not an intellectual
01:58:47.660
Titan. I used to do like prank videos on YouTube. I, I walked around in a penis costume. This isn't
01:58:54.400
like peak, peak, like highbrow intellectual, intellectual, like I'm not, yeah, I'm not like
01:59:04.380
a fucking intellectual Titan. So these women who come on, it's fair, fair game. I think.
01:59:08.800
But which feeling do you get the feeling I had that when you meet a great girl and you've seen
01:59:15.120
a lot of dumb girls, you're like, this one is a good one. And you're thankful for it. Or is it
01:59:20.100
the more dumb girls you see, does it make you think like, Oh, there's not going to be a good
01:59:24.940
girl there? Or are you, is it going to spread hatred or hold on? Um, because I think both
01:59:32.540
what, if a girl is dumb or if a girl is smart, both of them have the capacity to make for interesting
01:59:39.220
conversation, albeit perhaps in different ways. So this idea that, Oh man, it's a panel of smart
01:59:47.300
women shoot this panel. No, that's never the case. Oftentimes I think the smart women are
01:59:52.100
the ones who are best capable of having like a, uh, like a well put together thought in
01:59:58.560
conversation. So this idea that I'm like kind of bummed out if it's a panel of smart women.
02:00:03.280
But putting it into dating, but putting it into dating, like, uh, does it make you feel
02:00:10.160
hatred towards women when you're looking for a date to think that there's no good women in
02:00:16.300
there? Or is it more like you're going to be grateful that you found, found a good one
02:00:19.760
after seeing what's out there? Okay. I understand your question. You're asking like, how has it
02:00:24.160
influenced my perspective on dating? My, yeah, sure. So, I mean, obviously our experiences in life,
02:00:32.680
our experiences in life are going to color our interpretations and perspectives. So has my
02:00:39.860
perspective been colored, been colored by the guests I've had on? Sure. Absolutely. I've learned
02:00:47.280
a lot. And I, you know, some of the conversations surrounding, you know, some, the, the way that
02:00:53.600
women move, although I, you know, I'm, I'm 36. I started the podcast when I was 33, 34. Uh, I've had,
02:01:01.500
I've had robust dating experience even before I started the show. And trust me, just from my own
02:01:07.480
dating experiences before talking to women on the show, I had very strong opinions before the show
02:01:14.480
as it relates to dating. I've been through, I've done dealt with a BPD girl. I done dealt with a
02:01:21.420
bipolar girl. I done dealt with girls who are, uh, not moving properly when it comes to dating,
02:01:30.060
even before I had the show. So trust me, this idea that the show has like warped me in. No, I've been,
02:01:36.620
I've been red pilled as you can say before the podcast. Trust me. Now, of course there's been
02:01:42.360
conversations on the show. Like, I don't know, some of the, like some of the, the sugar daddy shit.
02:01:47.940
I wasn't as tuned into like some of the stuff that women do when it comes to like sugar daddies and
02:01:53.600
fucking feet pics and being D gens, all that shit. I wasn't as privy to some of that stuff,
02:01:58.640
but, uh, yeah, I mean, I, I, so it hasn't pushed you into any direction in somehow, uh, honestly,
02:02:08.060
I would say that, um, part, maybe the biggest red pill for me is not the conversations on the show,
02:02:17.640
but women's conduct after the show. So I, one of the things, one of the examples is, uh, women's
02:02:25.880
propensity to like flake or no show. For example, we had, uh, you know, it's great to have Felicity
02:02:32.700
here, but this chair today shouldn't have gone to Felicity. We had a girl, no show today. Like
02:02:37.840
didn't even, Hey, I'm not coming in blah, blah, blah. Nope. Just no showed nothing at all. Uh,
02:02:44.880
we get a lot of flakes and like people who just cancel last minute, but they, every single show we
02:02:50.800
have to plan for, we overbook intentionally. Um, that kind of has frustrated me a little bit, just
02:03:00.020
kind of the lack of accountability on, on that front. But, um, and then just some likes, it's not
02:03:07.460
the majority of women, but some women have done some like really despicable things, uh, like after
02:03:14.060
the show, like to try to, I don't know, just bullshit, stupid shit. I'm trying to think of
02:03:20.080
some examples here. Uh, like, you know, we've had some women who've come on the show and they
02:03:24.980
basically want to like, they, they have like a blood vendetta and want to like ruin my reputation,
02:03:32.960
ruin my frequent guest, Andrew Wilson's reputation. They want to like go and just try to fuck us over
02:03:38.880
in various ways that I'm not going to, uh, get into here. But yeah, we've had like tons
02:03:43.400
of women just be like conniving, vicious, vengeful, vindictive. Uh, I won't say it, but yeah, we've
02:03:52.640
had some like really terrible, like malevolent women not on the show. Well, I mean, well,
02:03:58.400
they came on the show, but then afterwards they're like fucking ops opposition. So
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I'm a spy. I'm actually on only fans. Uh, Papa penguin. Uh, Oh, hold on. There's this one
02:04:18.100
reduc reductio at what? I don't even know what it was, but okay. Um, there's that. And then
02:04:24.480
Felicity read this one, I guess. Okay. I'm bored and have bourbon. I thought I was going to get a
02:04:29.480
response. The women on this show have the intellectual depth of a puddle, but refusing to respond when you
02:04:34.880
said you would, I paid. Oh my God. Shut up, dude. Oh my God. You're such a fucking way. You've gotten
02:04:40.860
more attention than almost any super chatter has ever fucking gotten. Yeah. Yeah. You, uh, you're,
02:04:49.620
Oh my God. This guy is ridiculous. Uh, yeah. You got to be patient there. Papa penguin. In any case,
02:04:56.380
I think I thoroughly responded to you. You got, you got actually very lucky here. You should do a
02:05:01.260
champagne. I don't know if he's still in the chat. You should honestly do a champagne pop for all the
02:05:05.120
attention you fucking got. Um, that, and by the way, this idea, hold on. I, I, it's interesting on
02:05:14.280
one hand, uh, Papa penguin, you say there's this divide between men and women and the show is
02:05:19.640
contributing to it. You, but then in the same breath, you say the women on this show have the
02:05:25.820
intellectual depth of a puddle. I actually think that this is very insulting to perhaps the women
02:05:32.060
on this panel, or I don't know if you're talking in general, like the other women we've found on the
02:05:35.660
show, we've had plenty of very capable, smart women we've had. There's many times where sometimes I'm
02:05:42.860
on the back foot conversationally or in the debates with the women. So this idea of we don't bring on
02:05:48.180
smart women, ridiculous. I, here's a open invitation. We have an open invitation for any women.
02:05:54.700
In fact, we have a lot of instances where we had a recent thing. I wonder if we can pull it up in the
02:06:00.980
discord. Uh, we'll, we'll get, I'll have women. Yeah. Yeah. We're going to pull this up. So, um,
02:06:10.020
it's going to be, you're going to have to scroll up. It's in the hate mail folder, but women will be
02:06:17.300
like, Oh, you only bring on stupid women. You should bring on a smart woman like me and blah.
02:06:23.860
And then they'll usually include like save inflammatory shit. Like your podcast sucks,
02:06:28.000
whatever. And I never insult back. I just always say, when can you make it on? Can you, when can
02:06:37.120
you come on the show? I'm never, I'll never, even if they, they, they say insulting things, I never
02:06:41.980
insults back. Hold on. I'm trying to find it. Nick, are you on the hate mail tab?
02:06:45.660
Yep. Okay. So it is, um, okay. So Nick, it is 10. You're going to scroll to October 24.
02:06:58.160
Okay. So it is, you're going to see the first one under 10. Oh shit. There's a Spider-Man
02:07:07.400
Jose. It's not that one, but it's the one below it. I'll show you guys what I'm talking
02:07:12.120
about. Are you at 1024 hate mail? Well, it's, it's the, it's below the one with the Spider-Man
02:07:30.760
Jose. 1024, 428. It's the one below it. All right, guys, if you're enjoying this, do you
02:07:40.400
have it? Okay. Pull it up from Jewel. No, no, no, no. The next one, the next one. All right,
02:07:50.300
Felicity, you read the girl part. It's, it's really small. Pop it out, Nick.
02:07:54.800
Yeah. Okay. Here. While you do that, um, do, huh? You, you can open it in a new tab so
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that it is bigger. Uh, do you have it? Ah, fuck. Hide StreamYard. Hide StreamYard.
02:08:22.980
Okay, here. In OBS. Huh? No, hold on. Here. Hide StreamYard in OBS. Hide. Minimize this.
02:08:45.720
F11. F11. F11. Out of it. Out of it. Scoot it over. Over. Just put it, put it. Wait, is
02:09:00.640
it, is it over? Yeah. Like, put it on the, um, do you have it? Yeah. What, um, what's
02:09:23.840
going on? Uh, wait, you got it. StreamYard needs to be F11. Okay. Go ahead, read it. This
02:09:39.440
is the same size that it was before. Okay. I just want you to know that, I just want you
02:09:45.760
to know I think you're a small-minded cuck of a man and I would absolutely demolish you
02:09:49.720
in any debate. The way you view women is hilariously outdated. The way you talk to women is disrespectful
02:09:54.900
as fuck and the entire idea that your platform is predicated on the, on, on is baseless woman
02:10:03.000
hating red-pilled nonsense. Okay, and then I respond, great, let's do it. Can you come
02:10:08.220
Sunday, November 9th? You view women who embrace their sexuality as trash pieces and you openly
02:10:15.400
disrespect them and honestly my intellect is much more vast, expansive, and well-informed than yours.
02:10:21.960
This would not be a fair debate for you. Scroll down. Uh, I'm fine with it not being fair for me. When
02:10:29.640
you, when can you do the debate you issued the challenge for? So you agree that your negative and
02:10:34.340
degrading opinions and ways of viewing and treating women is baseless and absurd then I'll think about
02:10:39.260
it. I disagree. You issued a debate challenge. I'm accepting. Are you backing out? If it's worth
02:10:44.700
my time, didn't expect you to be so eager to be wrong. Uh, and then again, I'm just ignoring her
02:10:51.560
sort of, uh, her, some of the attacks or whatever. It was worth your time, blah, blah, blah. Shall we get
02:10:58.020
this on schedule? And then she didn't respond. And I just, are you running from your own debate
02:11:01.720
challenge? So look, ultimately relating this back to, uh, you know, me not having intellectual
02:11:07.340
women on, I have, I get DMS like that every single day where women say, Oh, if you had
02:11:11.580
me on the show, I would school you. I, I don't insult them back. I'm just say, cool, let's do
02:11:16.940
it. Let's schedule it. Every single time. I'm not exaggerating. They run, they won't do
02:11:24.860
it. They're fucking cowards. Every single, so this idea like, Oh, bring on intelligent women.
02:11:29.460
I'll bring on anybody. I will bring on any woman you can. I don't care if you're fucking
02:11:34.120
from Harvard. I don't care if you dropped out of elementary school. You want to be on
02:11:37.700
the show? Come on the show. I don't care. I love it. I don't fucking care. All these
02:11:41.020
people are, are not, you know, their, their main source of income is not only fans. And
02:11:46.700
yeah, there's not one single only fans girl here. I love it. I love it. I thought it was
02:11:51.740
strictly only fans for, for a while. When I first started seeing clips of this on YouTube,
02:11:56.280
I thought it was like, Oh, this guy just interviews only fans chicks. I mean, it's a,
02:12:01.320
it's a unfortunate, uh, I guess, stereotype that won't go away because admittedly we have
02:12:09.320
had only fans girls on the show. Perhaps some of our viral clips have featured only fans
02:12:15.700
girls. Although many of our viral clips, it's just a regular girl. Uh, but if you do a breakdown
02:12:21.920
of all our guests, it's something like 15% of our guests total are OF one, five, 15, one, five,
02:12:31.280
only 15. So that means look, some panels, there's more, some there's less, some there's none,
02:12:37.060
but one five, if the would work out to on average, a panel like this, one or two of the girls do OF,
02:12:45.540
the rest dome on average. Okay. Yeah. But it's an unfortunate trope that continues to be, uh,
02:12:53.660
excuse me, repeated. Yo, Mads, thank you for the gifted 10. Appreciate it. Uh, yeah, it's just kind
02:12:59.800
of like this thing. I guess I can't escape. Oh, you just bring on young, stupid girls. But like,
02:13:05.980
if you, I mean, we have three, three women above the age of 30, 36, 31, 35, 35. We do have like a
02:13:14.740
19 year old, 18 year old, uh, 27 year old. I am 32. Thank you. Don't age me. Oh, what did I say?
02:13:21.820
35. Oh, sorry. A couple of times. Yeah. I miss, I guess I wrote that down wrong. We have four girls
02:13:26.540
over the age of 30. Yeah. 36, 31, 32, 35. So I don't know. They're like, Oh, you only bring on young
02:13:33.020
girls. No, I mean, actually the average age is closer to 25, 26. We only bring on the only fans
02:13:37.980
girls. Well, no, actually the majority of our guests don't do only fans. So I don't know. A lot
02:13:41.760
of fake news circulating, I guess, about the show, but, um, I'm trying to remember where we were on
02:13:49.160
this. Um, what were you, I don't know. You brought it up, I guess, or sort of, I don't know. Uh,
02:13:57.800
I don't remember, but Felicity, would you agree that 15% of the females on this podcast have been
02:14:04.700
only fans or would you think that it would be higher? I would say, yeah, like less than a
02:14:11.540
hoarder. Okay. All right. I guess it's just the clips I've seen. Why would. I'm just curious.
02:14:17.320
We keep stats. Oh, you keep data. Wow. Yes, we keep stats. Okay. Okay. Do you think I'm lying to
02:14:22.420
you? Why would you need to defer to Felicity? I was just curious. Who's only been here since
02:14:26.360
episode, like, uh, what, 200 something up? Okay. She's missed. I was just curious. Yeah,
02:14:34.260
but why? I don't know. Because she's here all the time. I mean, on the, in the clips that I've seen.
02:14:37.440
I don't, yeah, but I don't know. So you think I'm lying? Well, I just wasn't sure that you had
02:14:43.700
the actual exact number of 15%. The host, the owner of the podcast. Okay. Has less accurate data than
02:14:51.940
Felicity. That's really okay. Just understanding. Just making sure we're on the same page there.
02:14:59.180
By the way, that's not an attack on Felicity, but it's, um, I think she's just asking for another
02:15:04.780
opinion. Yeah, I was just, it's not an opinion. Well, it's not just an opinion. I didn't know you
02:15:11.440
had the data in your head from the exact numbers. It's observable. Okay. The, the girls who are on
02:15:21.840
the show say whether or not they do OnlyFans. And you keep track of every single thing. Okay. Well,
02:15:27.940
so good to know as of episode, I believe it was, we, we sort of stopped tracking after episode 200
02:15:35.780
formally, but we did, we did tracking up to episode 200. And if anything, there was a period
02:15:42.360
there from, I'd say episode 40 to episode 200 where that in that area was probably when we had a bit
02:15:48.860
leaning a bit more towards OnlyFans creators. I would argue in the past year or so, we've had less
02:15:56.740
frequent appearances from OnlyFans girls. Okay. So if anything, the data that I have from,
02:16:03.240
uh, episode one to episode 200 where episode two, six, seven, I think, uh, or is it two, six,
02:16:09.500
six? I don't know what are, it's probably lower. Okay. Good to know. I thought OF maybe was giving
02:16:15.940
you kickbacks. Like, Hey, take on a few girls. No, no, we've never received a kickback from only that'd be
02:16:26.000
ridiculous. Uh, you never know. Okay. I don't know. Are you, are you getting fucking kickbacks
02:16:32.500
from, I don't know, uh, fucking George Soros for saying stupid shit on the podcast? I don't fucking
02:16:43.860
know, but, um, we've never received a kickback from any individual OnlyFans girls. We've never
02:16:51.520
received a kickback from a management company. None of that shit. Okay. You think there's a fucking
02:16:57.560
whatever conspiracy to what the fuck? Well, what other conspiracy, uh, was 9-11, was that an inside
02:17:05.480
job? What else do you want to fucking talk about? She actually does think 9-11 wasn't, I guess she
02:17:13.020
wants to talk about that. I mean, I don't want to talk about it. Does jet fuel melt, doesn't melt steel
02:17:19.020
beams? Well, I don't know. Plan demolition. What are you? There might've been an explosion while one of
02:17:24.240
them was burning. I don't know. Um, one of the towers. Are you a flat earther too? Do you want
02:17:28.640
to talk about that? Not a flat earther? Okay. Well, all right. Um, I know, I know. We'll get to it.
02:17:38.320
Your XD donated $200. Sorry for the delay, man. I'm sorry. Brian getting heated made me heated.
02:17:43.800
I make a really solid six figure income. I'm pretty good looking. I come from a great family.
02:17:49.120
I don't want to fucking have to prove some ambiguous ambition to you.
02:17:55.060
I believe that's for you, Sabrina. Maybe. I don't. Cha? Was that directed to her? I'm not sure.
02:18:01.680
Um, sorry for the delays on these guys. I was engaged in responding to, um, Pussy Penguin.
02:18:11.200
Share for, in my honest opinion, the whatever podcast exposes the misandry and sexism that
02:18:17.080
many women have towards men due to feminism. It also reveals their promiscuity because of
02:18:22.900
feminism. What was that guy? Thank you, Pacey George. What was he saying about the declining
02:18:28.720
birth rates? What the fuck would that have to do? You said you were putting men and women against
02:18:36.800
each other and birth rates were feeding hate. Yeah. You're feeding that hatred. You yourself have
02:18:44.040
to stop the babies from coming. I, Nick, I'm going to send you something in the private chat here.
02:18:48.020
I actually posted about the, uh, you know, I brought up feminism. Feminism is very anti-natalist,
02:18:54.400
anti-family, anti-children. Um, one sec. I'm going to try to, so there was this famous feminist,
02:19:01.780
hold on. I'm going to send her right now. Famous feminist, uh, who, hold on. She wrote a very,
02:19:10.040
like a, uh, well, I'll just read the tweet, but she wrote like a major piece of, I guess,
02:19:16.820
classical feminist literature, you could say. Uh, her name is Kate Millett. Go ahead, pull it up.
02:19:24.520
Uh, she was an American feminist who's, you could probably make us bigger, uh, whose 1970 book,
02:19:30.600
sexual politics is regarded as a classic feminism. She was involved in early days of the, uh, this is
02:19:36.560
the biggest women's organization, even currently in the United States, uh, national organization for
02:19:42.480
women. She has quoted the complete destruction of traditional marriage and the nuclear family
02:19:46.940
is the revolutionary or utopian goal of feminism. And she participated in feminist groups where the
02:19:53.380
destruction of the American family was explicitly discussed. It's not French, fringe feminism. It's
02:19:58.760
mainstream feminism. And Nick, if you scroll down a bit, the first photo, uh, don't do it on stream,
02:20:03.600
but the first photo after that is, uh, some of the remarks that I, that are attributed towards
02:20:09.840
her. You're going to click on the photo. I think just in, just click. It should be fine. Okay. So
02:20:17.360
this is what she's quoted as saying, uh, why are, Oh wait, I need somebody. I'm just going to have one
02:20:22.680
of the women read this. Any takers? I'll do it. Okay. Go ahead. Pink hair makes sense.
02:20:29.340
Why are we here today? The chairman chairwoman asked to make revolution. They answered what
02:20:36.220
kind of revolution she replied, the cultural revolution they chanted. And how do we make
02:20:42.000
cultural revolution? She demanded, sorry, it's a little hard to see by destroying the American
02:20:46.680
family. They answered, how do we destroy the American family? She came back by destroying the
02:20:51.720
American patriarch. They cried exuberantly. I can't say that. I'm sorry. And how do we destroy
02:20:57.560
the American patriarch? She's probed by taking away his power. How do we do that? By destroying
02:21:03.540
monogamy? They shouted. How can we destroy monogamy? By pretending, by promoting, sorry,
02:21:10.000
promiscuity, eroticism, prostitution, abortion, and homosexuality, right? Hypersexuality. Is that
02:21:17.560
homosexuality? Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. So this idea, by the way, that's from 1969.
02:21:23.100
It's kind of crazy. That's decades before I was born, anybody else at this table was born.
02:21:29.940
This idea that a few podcasts, like male podcasts that get comparable viewership to myself, a couple
02:21:44.160
thousand concurrent viewers, is having the impact on the birth rates and the dissolution of the family
02:21:52.040
structure in the United States. This has been the, that was the genesis of feminism since very early
02:21:58.180
on. 1969. This is the, this is the feminism that's taught in university. Um, she's written books,
02:22:07.900
her book, sexual politics, uh, is a classic of feminist thought. So I don't know how you can look at my
02:22:18.820
podcast where I'm in favor of having children and having a family and then say that this is like
02:22:25.400
time to blame for the divide. The divide pre-exists my life. And that's, it's been created by feminists
02:22:33.840
like Kate Millett. I don't know if I'm saying her name right. Kate Millett, uh, the feminist movement,
02:22:39.100
very detrimental. And, uh, I don't know. It's an interesting thing to try to blame on,
02:22:46.840
on me when there's bigger powers, primarily feminism in society that you should really be pointing the
02:22:55.760
finger to. Um, I don't know. I've decided since I've met you here tonight, I will never have another
02:23:02.000
child. She's joking. I don't think that he was blaming you. I think he was just, you know,
02:23:12.100
making statements and it, it sounded like he was blaming you in that. He clearly was. No,
02:23:17.780
no, no, no. He definitely was blaming you. He wasn't blaming you. He was just saying,
02:23:20.140
I don't have it. All of this is happening. And like, I'm sitting here watching this podcast.
02:23:25.520
It wasn't like, he's like, Brian, this is your fault. You're like, he was just saying that like,
02:23:30.240
this does perpetuate, but it's not your fault that these other things are happening.
02:23:35.520
Yep. Feeding hate. Oh, okay. Yeah. Well, he didn't blame you for the. I mean, he, he did,
02:23:41.760
but I'm not going to have a meta conversation about that when we have chats coming through.
02:23:46.780
Dark Omen 42 donated $200. We all deal with women in real life. We see most are massive flakes.
02:23:55.300
We know how crappy most single women are. If anything, Brian gives hope because he has
02:24:00.220
decent ones on them. We run into in person. Yo, Dark Omen. Thank you for the TTS, man. I do
02:24:06.100
appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. And then we have, uh, let's see. Pasty George here. Dark
02:24:13.040
Omen. I do appreciate that. Thank you, man. Thank you, George. Pasty George. Wait, you're not
02:24:21.740
doing the thing. You're not doing the thing. Therefore, so basically you are tone policing
02:24:26.900
Brian for simply questioning women's entitlement and egotistical mentality, as well as feminist
02:24:38.120
Can you try moving that thing? What the f- bro? No, don't worry about it. It's fine. I don't know.
02:24:47.180
He was saying that I was criticizing your, your, tone policing, I guess. Okay. Yeah. Do you
02:24:55.160
want to respond? No. Okay. All right. She says, George, she doesn't want to respond, I guess.
02:25:01.860
Um, all right. I don't know where we were. Um, talk about something fun like sex.
02:25:07.240
Well, we didn't get to her. Let's hear about her relationship. Hold on, hold on. Hold on. Hold
02:25:14.500
on. We were just trying to finish off this conversation about high expectations. Yeah.
02:25:21.820
Still on me. Oh my. Well, I think, uh, look, I think it warrants. It's an interesting convo
02:25:27.220
to have because you, you say you're very single. You want to get married. You want to have kids.
02:25:32.240
You say you have high expectations. Yeah. Is it ever the case that sometimes somebody can have
02:25:37.840
expectations that are too high and should they be adjusted to be more commensurate with what they
02:25:45.140
could reasonably hope to achieve in terms of the quality of partner that they, their prospects
02:25:51.480
would be indicative of? What do you mean exactly? Like, well, okay. Yeah. You say I have high
02:26:00.520
expectations and then I guess do the guys that you want, want you? Oh, um, for the most part,
02:26:11.560
but then it just kind of ends like the last two relationships. They both said the same reason
02:26:17.740
that I was deserving of more time than they could give me. So obviously, yeah, I'm going to blame
02:26:24.200
myself. Well, you know, I, I didn't believe them. Were you needy? No, no, I don't think I'm needy.
02:26:30.700
I think, um, I do try quite hard to find like a balance of whoever I'm with and you know, like I'll
02:26:40.280
obviously I'm open to adjusting whatever bad habits I have or, you know, whatever. So obviously I think
02:26:49.040
like, what could I do better? So yeah. I mean, it's kind of like when somebody's breaking up with
02:26:59.020
you and they're a lot of times when somebody's breaking up with you, if they're trying to be
02:27:02.760
polite or to protect your feelings, they're going to say something like, Hey, I'm just, uh, you know,
02:27:07.980
I'm trying to focus on my career. It's not you, it's me. They're usually not always being perfectly
02:27:15.180
upfront or forthcoming about, you know, I definitely didn't believe them. I knew it had
02:27:21.200
to have been something else. Right. So, um, I guess ultimately though, I don't know. And then,
02:27:29.520
you know, the thing about, uh, you know, body type or whatever, you don't want a guy who's,
02:27:36.240
who's bigger, whatever. Um, just trying to get a feel for the high expectations here, because my,
02:27:43.440
my perspective is this, I think everybody wants to get the best that they can get.
02:27:47.620
That's human nature. Yeah. If we can get the best, you know, the best possible option,
02:27:52.580
we want the best, but whether you can get that is another question. And so it's like, I, my,
02:28:00.960
I guess my perspective is average people should want average people.
02:28:05.640
Or I mean, being realistic, like, yeah. Okay. You, you're a 35 year old. I'm not talking
02:28:14.540
you're a 35 year old male who lives in Idaho and you live in your mom's basement and you're
02:28:21.180
overweight. You do drugs. You play video games all day. You don't have a job. I don't think
02:28:26.840
you're going to be dating Sydney Sweeney anytime soon. I don't think you're going to be dating a
02:28:31.400
Victoria's secret model anytime soon. Why is that? Well, maybe you could date the ex
02:28:39.700
meth addict who works at Walmart and who's got a couple of tattoos and maybe he's a single mom.
02:28:46.220
If that's your position, like you should probably date in your league. And so it's like,
02:28:50.700
right. So like, I'm, I'm an independent woman. I go to work every day. I go to school every day.
02:28:55.880
I have a dog. I, you know, have my apartment. Yeah. I make my way. So why wouldn't I want
02:29:02.140
someone with those same expectations? Well, I think that's all fine. And it's also funny,
02:29:06.240
you know? Well, I, yeah. I mean, and she wants kids and marriage and like, that's nice too.
02:29:13.620
Yeah. Maybe marriage down the line, but definitely I know my age. I know my body type, obviously.
02:29:20.720
So I'm not, you know, I'm a realist. All right. Okay. Uh, what about you?
02:29:29.540
I've been single for 18 years straight. All right. Any boyfriend or anything like that?
02:29:35.680
Nope. Never. Longest period of time you dated a guy? Never dated a guy. Never dated a guy. Okay.
02:29:42.080
Uh, all right. Um, and you're Christian, correct? Yes. What denomination? Baptist.
02:29:49.680
Baptist. Baptist. Okay. Are you waiting until marriage? Absolutely. Okay. So you're, you are a
02:29:55.580
virgin? Yes. Okay. Uh, all right. That's very good. It can be done. Thank you. Yeah. Great. Very,
02:30:03.460
very encouraging. And let me see here. Um, okay. We're going to get into, uh, some of the disagreements
02:30:13.280
some people had, uh, but I'm, I'm actually, I have to wait until she's back here before I,
02:30:20.560
I need to step away momentarily. But why don't I just do this? We have, hold on, hold on,
02:30:30.900
look at my notes here. Um, uh, I guess going to you, Laura. Uh, so the origination of you coming
02:30:41.560
on the show, you had DM'd my personal and you said that you were disappointed that my comments
02:30:49.000
on my Instagram were turned off and you, I don't know if you're being catty or just whatever.
02:30:54.940
You were like, I thought you welcomed open discourse. Yeah. Uh, people that turn off their
02:31:00.040
comments are pussies. Exactly. See, you thought it, half of us might've thought that. Yeah. I just want
02:31:07.460
to get the context for your angle there. Like, so what was the, you went to my personal Instagram
02:31:13.960
page. You, I am assuming like, did you have an intention of wanting to leave like a comment on
02:31:19.480
one of my posts that you disagreed on? I'm, I might've. Yeah. I'm, I don't, I don't, I don't recall
02:31:25.940
that exact thing. It was slightly insignificant, but then when you told me to come on the podcast,
02:31:30.600
I was like, yeah, I'll go, I'll go. I enjoy the clips. So sure. So yeah, I mean, I guess I could
02:31:36.760
just, uh, uh, address this briefly context for viewers, my YouTube comments, wide open YouTube
02:31:44.220
live chat, fully open. You have to be a subscriber, but that's free for anybody. And there's like a 10
02:31:50.700
minute waiting period. That's not, that's mostly just to prevent spam. We don't want like people
02:31:56.020
coming in and spamming links and bots and this sort of shit. YouTube live chat, fully open YouTube
02:32:01.660
comments, wide open Twitch chat, fully open X replies, fully open. TikTok comments, fully open
02:32:07.620
Facebook comments, fully open, uh, Instagram reels, fully open Instagram posts though. Instagram posts
02:32:15.800
uniquely. I don't allow comments on my Instagram posts, but all the reels, if you go, you look over
02:32:22.500
on the reels totally open. You can leave comments on those. And I, I do it because I don't want to
02:32:27.640
bought cause Instagram posts are like, I don't really post much. Well, I post a lot of reels on
02:32:33.260
Instagram, but I don't do posts. Maybe some of you understand the distinction between a post versus a
02:32:40.280
reel. Uh, I don't want to bother moderating on Instagram because I just don't give a, Instagram's
02:32:47.140
like a deprioritized platform for me mostly. Although I've started posting reels on there. I don't
02:32:52.420
want to, I was getting doxxed and shit on there. So yeah, I turn off the Instagram post comments
02:32:57.140
cause I don't want to bother moderating it. All those other platforms completely open. Okay. Good
02:33:02.900
to know. Twitter, TikTok, Facebook, YouTube open. I'm not on any of those other platforms except
02:33:08.180
YouTube. And I actually, I think I was introduced to you via Instagram. I feel like somebody might
02:33:15.780
have sent me one of your clips. I saw your Instagram before I saw the whatever Instagram, and I thought
02:33:19.940
that was your only one. So that's why I, I sent you that message all those months ago.
02:33:24.700
But you, you thought it was like you, you had an issue because my comments were turned off,
02:33:31.020
I guess. I don't know. I, uh, yeah, I don't know. I just sent you a DM.
02:33:37.300
Yeah. I sometimes get this, this criticism for, especially, um, oftentimes it's from people who
02:33:44.140
are, have a non anonymous or private accounts, um, which I can't find somewhat ironic. Like,
02:33:50.700
Oh, why, why are your, uh, comments on Instagram, uh, turned off you pussy, but it's like a private
02:33:57.100
anonymous, like it's not their name. So I'm like, hold on.
02:34:01.420
Um, my full name is out there and I'm saying the shit I'm saying your Instagram profile is
02:34:07.620
private. I think that's having a private, I don't, by the way, I don't have an issue with
02:34:12.180
people have private Instagrams, but if you're going to criticize me and be like, Oh, why is
02:34:17.640
your Instagram comments off pussy? But your Instagram is private. I'm like, you fucking
02:34:22.380
hypocrite. Like, okay. Um, but I don't know if your, your Instagram is private or not. I don't
02:34:28.660
know. Uh, but you had a criticism there. So do you have criticisms of the show beyond
02:34:33.900
just what, what we've already talked about? Oh, okay. Um, but I mean, you left or you sent
02:34:42.600
me a message. You're disappointed that my Instagram comments are turned off. You say you, you thought
02:34:49.220
that I welcomed open discourse. Uh, do you think I don't welcome open discourse?
02:34:54.460
I think you do. Uh, into the microphone, please. I'm sorry. You do. Oh, okay. All right.
02:35:06.980
You do, but then there's a, then there's a certain tone. If your question, there's a certain like
02:35:12.140
bark back that you sometimes have. What, what does that have to do with your original statement
02:35:17.380
though? No, I, you, okay. You welcome open discourse. I don't know what time I sent you that
02:35:22.240
or the context. Exactly. Yeah. It was, it was definitely sometime over summer. Yeah. Um,
02:35:28.020
but yeah, we're good. I don't, I don't have any disagreements. Um, I mean, I would actually
02:35:36.860
argue, I think I, I do welcome open discourse perhaps more than like I'm in this show by virtue
02:35:46.060
of having the show and inviting on just all the people we've had on over. I think we're
02:35:52.940
almost at 2000 guests, probably more than just about anyone else in the world. I'll invite
02:35:58.880
people on who disagree with me. Oh, you just, I, in fact, I want them on more than the people
02:36:04.880
who agree with me. If you disagree, you get priority. You definitely get to come on the
02:36:09.460
show. If you disagree with me and you don't even have to be a somebody you can have a hundred
02:36:14.600
followers on Instagram. Don't care. I'm not like some clout demon. No, only, Oh, I only want to
02:36:19.620
invite people with a hundred thousand followers. Don't care. You can be, have a hundred followers
02:36:25.780
on Instagram from fucking Nebraska. Don't give a shit. Anybody. I think that's open discourse.
02:36:32.520
I just don't want people to dox me in my fucking Instagram comments. Okay. That's extremely
02:36:40.960
I think that people confuse justifiable moderation decisions. Oh, you're anti-free speech. No,
02:36:50.880
it's like you can moderate things and still be in favor of free speech. And these things are not,
02:36:57.400
uh, in contradiction of each other. Like, I don't want people like in my chat, like dropping the end,
02:37:04.660
the end bomb. I don't want people to don't fucking do it. Chat like right now they're,
02:37:09.240
I just, they're probably tempted to, I don't, I think it's within my purview of like curating a
02:37:17.820
channel that one isn't going to get like fucking canceled because it's TOS for me to say, tell my
02:37:24.800
moderators in chat, Hey, if people are like dropping severe racial slurs, you should ban them. Yeah.
02:37:32.140
Like we should have, I'm okay with some edgy stuff, whatever. But if you're just dropping racial slurs
02:37:38.680
in the chat, ban them, please. Like, I don't think that that's in contravention of freedom of speech.
02:37:45.080
Like that's one just about in order for me to actually be able to have some controversial
02:37:50.680
views that I espouse, I need to play by the platform's rules. And part of that means
02:37:57.620
curating and moderating the community so that I don't get a bullseye on me from YouTube or,
02:38:05.540
you know, the fucking media matters. Look at this chat. It's just a bunch of people fucking
02:38:10.040
dropping racial slurs. What's he cultivating here? No, I don't want, I don't want that.
02:38:15.840
And it doesn't benefit me. So I, I, I think moderation is not in contravention of freedom of
02:38:22.580
speech. I agree. Just like we shouldn't be on here saying any of those things either. I get it.
02:38:28.680
I get it. Why? Do you feel tempted to drop the hard R? That's so you, I knew you were a fucking
02:38:32.980
racist. Just kidding. I never got this vibe from you. I promise. I'm kidding. I'm just messing with
02:38:38.100
you. Um, let's see here. You also disagree about the laundry thing, but we're going to get to that
02:38:45.640
in a moment. Uh, I need to step away for a few minutes. Felicity here has some great, great
02:38:51.780
questions, um, that she's going to ask you. Um, if you can start with this one, do you know what I'm
02:39:01.780
this one? And then, uh, yeah, I'll be actually wait, hold on. Let me let the chat come through
02:39:07.620
while I'm here. And then Felicity has some questions to ask you. Fine gentlemen and ladies.
02:39:17.320
A message from the government of Canada. Pasty George donated $200 and four cents. Thank you,
02:39:24.100
man. Chair four, due to feminism and me too, many women often speak to men how they want,
02:39:29.980
even when it is in a rude, catty and disrespectful manner and behavior. Why can't men do the same?
02:39:37.620
Anybody want to respond to Pasty George? Anybody? Do they not? Do men not talk the way they want to,
02:39:50.380
to their girlfriends? Is that? I think they do get reprimanded more for it. I will say that,
02:39:57.940
but I genuinely think everyone should be able to talk about anyone that they want and that's freedom
02:40:03.000
of speech, you know? So, but I can see where he's coming from. I do know, um, and I'm not trying to
02:40:09.600
100% side with the men or women here, but I do know a lot of men, uh, feel, especially if they were
02:40:16.100
to come up on social media and try to say something. And in my defense, when I have said something
02:40:21.400
against women, even though I'm not with men or women necessarily, you get a lot of more backlash for
02:40:27.940
it than if you were to come up on social media and just talk bad about a man. So, but yeah,
02:40:33.280
I can see where he's coming from. I think everyone should be able to talk bad about, well, to some
02:40:38.380
degree, but you should have freedom of speech and expression. Really quick before I step away,
02:40:46.000
I need to thank a couple of people. I missed these from last show. Yo, John, thank for the 30 on Venmo.
02:40:51.340
Anna, thank for the 10. Troy, thank for the 10. And then Troy tonight, thank for the 10, man. Uh,
02:40:56.920
Leslie, who, uh, she, she decided to, uh, help with some very generous patronage. I don't know if
02:41:06.840
she's watching, but she sent $700. So Leslie, I don't know if you're watching. Uh, thank you so much.
02:41:13.520
You're a fucking legend. And, um, I think we'll, uh, I think she's maybe going to visit soon. So we'll
02:41:21.300
see. Thank you so much, Leslie. Appreciate it very much. And I think we're good. Take it away. Felicity.
02:41:28.760
Okay. I'm going to ask questions. I'm going to start with you. Okay. Okay. Name three countries,
02:41:34.820
three countries. Yeah. Um, Europe, America, um, Asia. Countries. Countries? Countries. Not continents.
02:41:47.060
I'm sorry. Um, Serbia, um, Japan, Tokyo. Tokyo? Is Tokyo not a country? Tokyo is in Japan. Oh my gosh.
02:42:03.100
Not a city in Japan. Um, uh, sorry. I'm just blanking right now. Um, Paris, city.
02:42:14.540
That's not a country. Okay. France. Yeah. Okay. What about you? Three countries. Countries. Yes.
02:42:21.780
Finland, Germany, Sweden. Okay. Also, you guys, you can't, you can't repeat. Name three countries.
02:42:27.840
Morocco, Switzerland, Zimbabwe. Next. France, Italy, Japan. Oh, wait, I can't repeat. China.
02:42:36.440
No, she didn't say. Uh, France was said and Japan was said. Oh, no, I said Italy. Uh, oh, you said
02:42:45.180
Switzerland. Um, sorry. Uh, Mexico, Canada, and Costa Rica. Are you Canadian? No. Uh, I heard a story.
02:42:57.460
Okay. Um, just, okay. Next. Kyrgyzstan, Egypt, and Ecuador. Next.
02:43:06.000
Brazil. And Spain. And Kazakhstan. You don't seem very sure about those answers. I was nervous.
02:43:18.100
Are you sure? Yes. Okay. Next. Bulgaria, Greece, and, um, Chile. Okay.
02:43:27.440
Okay. Name one continent. Name a continent. Asia. Okay. Next. Uh, continent. Uh, Africa.
02:43:36.280
Okay. Europe. Next. Australia. Antarctica. Next. All of them. Yeah, I think, I think there's,
02:43:46.980
we're going through all of them. There's seven. There's enough. Oh, there's enough. No, I'm
02:43:49.700
saying we're going through. Yeah, so name, name a continent. I can say something. You
02:43:52.960
can't repeat. No, it's okay. You already said Antarctica. What was that already? That's
02:43:59.040
fine. Oh, I'm not telling you. That's what happened to me. I was like, wait, they just,
02:44:02.380
I wasn't listening to them, but. Okay. Um, name a continent. One. You, you got this. There's
02:44:09.260
two left. I can name all seven. You're on one of them. Shh. Sorry. That's cheating. No, I can't
02:44:15.880
say that. Well, America. Which one? Well, yes, but. Oh my gosh, it's so embarrassing. Yeah.
02:44:26.200
Yeah. Um, there's so, I guess, yeah, technically there's two Americas. Which one? Yeah. You got
02:44:32.840
this. It's really embarrassing. Into the mic. I really can't think. As soon as she says it,
02:44:42.940
you're going to be like. I know. As soon as you say it, it's going to be so stupid. What
02:44:46.260
continent you live on. Shh. What continent are you on right now? You guys don't help
02:44:54.880
her. I know. I can't. I don't know. You don't know what continent you're in right
02:44:59.960
now? No. No. Yes. Yes, you have to guess. I'm not going to skip you. I know. I'm sorry.
02:45:08.760
All right. I'm not sorry. We need the crickets. I know. We need the crickets. It's not coming
02:45:22.800
to me. It's not even. It's so painful. And you have high standards, right? I know. Yeah.
02:45:32.080
No shade. No shame. No, some shame. Come on. I know. You kind of. Analyze the data. You
02:45:41.200
have. Analyze the data. You had one of the words. You halfway got it. I kind of helped
02:45:47.040
you a little bit. There's no. How old are you? Can I name all seven? You. Come on. You're
02:45:53.340
going to. Okay. I think it's making it worse because it's just blank. Um. All except ours.
02:46:01.960
Okay. Don't. Don't. Yeah. No, no, no. No, because then that'll get the answer. It's
02:46:11.480
just blank. It's just blank. She's under pressure. She's under pressure. I'm under pressure and
02:46:16.320
it's just blank and it's embarrassing. Wait. She already gave me a hint. She already got
02:46:21.520
a hint. Yeah. What was the hint? Well, I said America. There's two Americas. Two Americas.
02:46:27.460
Yes. It was a huge hint. Wait. There's two Americas. Yeah. There's two Americas. I'm not going
02:46:33.440
to say it. I know, but. Okay. Yeah. So. Okay. That's a good enough hint. Hold on. Yeah. Yeah.
02:46:41.320
Okay. So she did guess that it's America. Yes. But. America. There's. Right. There's
02:46:51.720
two continents. Right. And. Okay. And there's four directions. Okay. Okay. Okay. You guys?
02:46:58.760
North America. Yes. Okay. Stop helping each other. We like each other. We're girly. Yeah.
02:47:07.880
West America. That's what we do. Okay. North America. Please. You know the answer, right?
02:47:12.200
What is the answer to the last one? South America. Good. Good job. Good job, ladies. Okay.
02:47:20.500
Not me. Next question. Next question. What years, and if you know the answer for sure, don't
02:47:29.420
answer. Who's the history major? Don't answer if you know. What years were World War I?
02:47:33.880
Oh, I would love to know that answer. I wonder if we should do. Have a range? Gosh.
02:47:39.780
Like, what's the decade? No. This is easy. That's too easy. Well, it's moderately easy.
02:47:46.000
That's way too easy. What years were World War I? Was it in the 1930s? Before that? Don't
02:47:52.460
ask me. I mean, you have to guess. I honestly don't know the answer to that. Honestly, I don't
02:47:56.480
know. Okay. Okay. Okay. We're letting. Hey, Sophia. You guys keep talking. Sophia. Can you
02:48:01.320
like, put yourself more on the corner? Okay. So. Yeah. So your guess is the 1930s? Clearly
02:48:17.500
not 1920s. Well, why? I didn't, nobody even hinted. Someone did. Okay. Guys, stop. Okay.
02:48:25.580
I'm just trying to piss me off. Wait. Put the camera that way. Okay. So your guess is 1920s?
02:48:35.180
Next. Not sure, but from 1914 to 1918. Okay. Next. 1914 to 1918. Next. Those are your guesses?
02:48:47.420
I think it was 1916 to 1919. Okay. Next. But I do know World War II. I'm going to say the
02:48:54.980
1910s. Next. Next. It's 1914 to 1918. Next. Yeah. It's 1914. Okay. So I did say if you know it
02:49:02.200
for sure, don't answer. Oh. Wow. So rude. But I wasn't sure. Well, yeah, you didn't seem
02:49:08.040
sure, but are you, you're the history. I was a high school dropout. Oh. So. But you
02:49:12.680
knew. Yes, I did. That's my bad. I'm sorry. It's okay. Next one. I'm going to get up again.
02:49:19.240
What years were World War II? Oh, my God. Same thing applies if you know it. Don't answer.
02:49:24.460
Oh. 1921. To. 1925. Okay. Next. Yes, you're next. You're next.
02:49:36.720
If I know. Huh? If I know. You said that if you know. Oh, okay. Yeah, you're saying don't
02:49:42.960
answer. Okay. And you know. Okay. So next. I know the month and the year. So no. Sorry.
02:49:48.280
Yeah, you guys go speak to them. I'm sorry. Okay. Next. I plead the fifth. Because I.
02:49:52.580
I can't plead the fifth. Well, I know it. I don't want to say it. Okay. Next.
02:50:00.420
38. Okay. Next. I know it. Okay. The answer is 1939 to 1945. Yep. September 1st to September
02:50:10.700
2nd, I think it ended or something like that. I think it was September to September. I don't
02:50:16.460
know the exact date. Should I ask the questions at the bottom, Brian?
02:50:22.580
Uh, yeah. We could do, what is it? The income? Yeah. What would you want the minimum yearly
02:50:29.160
income to be for your future husband, starting with you? I wrote 300K. Okay. Should I just
02:50:36.120
keep going? Yeah. Okay. Next. Kind of doesn't matter. I hope that the guy can take care of himself
02:50:44.420
and then we'll figure out the rest afterwards. But. So just like, like average, like bare minimum.
02:50:53.760
To be able to live and take care of themselves. Yeah. Okay. Next. Um, and the, I would, you want to
02:51:00.480
make clear that when we do start dating, it doesn't matter to me what your income is. Um, I think the
02:51:06.420
ambition is going to show what's possible. Um, but at the end, the end goal for me or the end goal or
02:51:14.000
the expectation I would have for him is he does make more than me. Um, obviously at this moment,
02:51:19.040
I'm not making much as a 19 year old, but if I want to have two to three kids, I think that
02:51:25.060
at least a hundred K to 150 K thousand, sorry, a hundred, a hundred thousand to 150,000 would be,
02:51:33.960
um, safe for the family. So that's what I believe. Next. I don't have a minimum income requirement to
02:51:42.040
date me. I'm. So they can make like $10,000 a year. It's not possible if you're working full time,
02:51:48.380
but, um, I, yeah, I don't have minimum requirements. They can work at McDonald's.
02:51:58.800
I'm not looking for someone that works at McDonald's, but they can work where, wherever
02:52:05.780
they're going to work. I don't, I don't have like criteria of, of those things at all. But you said
02:52:13.800
you like 10,000 a year is not acceptable. So there has to be a full time job anywhere. Okay. So you
02:52:20.280
live in California? Except China. Yes, I do right now. Southern California. I think the median income
02:52:25.380
is like 68. Yeah. 60. So 68. Would that be the answer? I mean, that's perfectly fine. They can make
02:52:35.840
however, their income does not make them more or less attractive. Let me just put it that way.
02:52:41.760
But would you like, so you said. There's no, there's no minimum. I've never dated somebody
02:52:48.940
and wondered how much they made ever. So they have to work full time, right? Is what you're
02:52:53.260
saying? Cause I was like, Oh, what about 10,000? Well, right now I'm not working full time. So I,
02:52:57.200
what am I, I'm not going to be like, Oh, you, I mean, as, as long as they're not a homeless person
02:53:02.780
or, um, so they can make $10,000 a year, say don't work full time or whatever. They only
02:53:09.960
Well then they can't like eat or have a house or have an apartment. So I guess 20,000 as long as
02:53:18.080
they're not homeless. So, so, but you're like, they can't, if it's 10,000, I just don't discriminate
02:53:25.920
based on income. So I'm not going to like throw out some random arbitrary number. But you wouldn't
02:53:29.240
date a homeless person. I'm just, I'm just fucking with you. Um, but really like what,
02:53:34.120
like seriously think of like a range. Some homeless people have really nice tents. So
02:53:39.980
they also have incomes sometimes. Would you like to sleep in their tent? If it was my husband,
02:53:46.700
sure. Exactly. What I'm saying? It doesn't. Okay. Next. Sorry. Okay. So, um, where I am in life,
02:53:53.080
I guess 85,000. Okay. Next. I would say about 80, but also it depends.
02:53:59.900
Depends on what? Um, um, just what the other girls were saying, like, you know, average,
02:54:09.460
nothing too crazy. Okay. Yeah. Next. Enough to sustain a family so I can be a stay at home mom. So
02:54:17.160
like around a hundred K for California where we live. Okay. So the highest answer we got was 300,000.
02:54:23.460
Mm-hmm. You live here? In California, in LA. Why, why 300? Um, I mean, that's just like,
02:54:30.540
I feel like a base for just common, like lifestyle, a little bit of luxury, like gives a little bit of
02:54:37.680
room, but. I agree. Southern California is really expensive, but 300 is a lot. That's like top 1%,
02:54:45.920
I think. Is it top 1? Getting in there. I'm not positive, but it's pretty high. Um,
02:54:53.340
do you, you want kids? Definitely. Okay. So you just want to live like super luxuriously or
02:54:58.500
whatever? Comfortably and able to travel some throughout the year, able to afford, you know,
02:55:03.160
certain luxuries, like a nanny sometimes. Okay. Things like that. I'm not really one to argue
02:55:09.740
with you guys on that. I had to like question you because I'm looking for answers, but I'm not
02:55:15.000
going to argue with you. Um, how tall are you and what's the minimum height of a man you would date?
02:55:19.660
Um, I'm five, seven minimum. I'm going to say six foot. Okay. What about you?
02:55:25.260
I only know it in centimeters. So, but I'm a hobbit. So a guy who's a little bit taller than me goes.
02:55:33.840
What would be the centimeters? 162 probably. That's about five foot four, five foot five.
02:55:40.620
Sounds about right. 162? 162. Yeah. I thought 140 was, I don't know. I'm next. Yeah. Um,
02:55:50.620
I mean, I'm five two, almost five three. Um, for me, what matters is somebody who could protect me
02:55:59.620
at the moment. The man that I'm girlfriend and boyfriend with, he is six foot. So that is the
02:56:06.460
standard for me. So at least six foot. Yes. For any guy that you date ever? No, I'm more worried
02:56:13.800
because you can meet a six foot four guy who will run away like the first sight of danger. So it really
02:56:18.520
doesn't matter. Um, so it is a protector. Yes. Someone that's a little, a little taller and can
02:56:23.740
protect you. Absolutely. Okay. What about you? Taller than me and I'm five foot six. So five, seven.
02:56:30.060
It's fine. Okay. I'm five two. So it's pretty easy to be taller than me. But when I was dating
02:56:34.600
somebody like at my height, at least, but my husband's six foot, which is really nice. Not gonna
02:56:39.940
lie. Okay. Next. I'm five, five. Um, anyone just a little bit taller? Five, six. Yeah. Okay. Next.
02:56:47.200
I'm five, three and anyone taller who can protect me. So five, four, if he's like, if he's sturdy. Yes,
02:56:54.700
absolutely. Okay. Would you rather cross paths with a random man or a random bear on a hike?
02:57:03.420
Oh, I know that's like the question, the bear or the man question. Yeah.
02:57:09.300
I mean, a random man. It happens. You wrote random woman. Oh, is this you? Are you Maria? Yeah. Yeah.
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You wrote a random woman. I thought I circled it. Maybe I read it. I was like quick, like,
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no, you wrote it. Like it's in writing random woman. Okay. I thought it was, um, I think I read
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woman or man on a hike. That's what I like read. Oh, okay. Next. Definitely a man. I love animals.
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I will freaking feed the bear and die. Okay. Next. I'm not fighting off a bear. Definitely a man.
02:57:49.540
Okay. Next. A man. Probably. You know, probably. Yeah. What do you mean? Probably. I've seen bears.
02:57:58.440
You're scary. I've seen both on, on trails. So either, either one is fine. Not afraid of either of
02:58:07.340
them. Why are you afraid of a bear? I've seen them on trails. Yeah. Angeles National Forest. I've seen
02:58:14.360
them. So you're just like nonchalant. Don't care that there's a bear walking past.
02:58:19.540
You don't get scared. Also, I've seen them at Mammoth. Um, I mean, like I'm not running up to it and
02:58:26.180
feeding it. I do. I mean, they're cute. I guess. Yeah. Like I've seen bears from a distance. I don't
02:58:33.120
care, but I, I'm thinking of it more like if I crossed paths. Okay. Like, you know, when you're
02:58:39.180
walking on a hike and like a random person passes you and like, Oh, Hey, whatever. Like imagine if that
02:58:44.400
was a bear running towards you. So I think I would see it before I was right next to
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it, but would it, would the answer still depend in that scenario? I mean, again, I was just
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saying, I'm, I'm not afraid of either of them and I would probably choose a man that
02:59:01.960
I'd, yeah. Are you afraid of, uh, polar bears? No, I've never, uh, seen one. They're very aggressive.
02:59:12.360
I think, um, like naturally your fight or flight should kick in. If you see like a big,
02:59:17.300
scary. Well, if you see a polar bear, you're going to die. Or a brown bear. I could show you a picture
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of a bear that was like 15 feet away from me. Honestly, if it was like a black bear and it was
02:59:26.160
like in the distance, I get it. But, um, I don't know if it depends. A message from the government
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of Canada. Pastey George donated $200 and four cents. Can the female panelists who are helping
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and giving hints on questions to the others, please stop. You're just proving that the others
02:59:45.140
can't use their own brains. No more sisterhood, ball poop. Yo, George, uh,
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welcome George. You've been here for like two hours already, but, uh, thank you, man. Thank you
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for the, uh, the mess. Were they, were they helping out? Yeah. They were helping out. Oh my goodness.
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Not with me. I don't like to see the struggle. I want to see them struggle. I want to see the struggle.
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I don't care if you don't know it. Let's sit here for the entire night and wait until one of them
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answers. That makes me sad. I'm, I'm not being serious. I mean, I mean, I eventually came to you.
03:00:23.440
For a while. Well, it came to, but like, you're not kind of just derailing the show. If you guys
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like give her the answer, cause I'm not looking for your answer. We were trying to like just hint.
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Looking for her answer. She's nudging her. She doesn't need hint.
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Can I answer the bear question? I need to, oh, you want to do the bear? I do want to answer the bear question.
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Yeah, we'll, we'll do that. Um, we were doing. I have, I've just, oh, my bad. Where, were we going across?
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Well, she was, I was talking to her cause she was like, it depends. No, I said, I said either
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one is fine. I've run into bears on trails. I've run into men on trails. I'm afraid of
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neither unless, I mean, obviously I don't want to get too close to a bear, but I'm not going
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to, it's not going to spring on me and all of a sudden be right in front of my face.
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Okay. Um, I did have one thing I wanted to just super quick while I was, we'll, we'll
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come right back to the bear thing. I just overheard something while I'd stepped, stepped away.
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You said like a guy's money doesn't matter at all to you. Like it wouldn't make him more
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attractive. I don't have a minimum requirement standard. That is like, it doesn't make him
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more or less attractive. Whether he makes $50,000 or $500,000. It's not like 50 million.
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That's disgusting. It's disgusting. Well, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You know what?
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If it hasn't changed him as a person. No, no. It's, I mean, I'm open to hearing you out.
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What, why is it disgusting? $50 million annually? Close. Sorry. $50 million annually is just.
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Or net worth, I guess. 35 year old, 50, 50 M net worth. I just can't, I can't
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imagine that much money being like with one person. I, okay. I give back even with like
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my income, which is not philanthropy. Well, what I'm saying is $50 million is almost like
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sickening to think that you haven't given away. And I'm not, I'm not even a liberal. I'm not
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like, you know, over here trying to say like, Oh, I hate rich people. It's not like that at
03:02:29.800
all, but I am not attracted to that. That's not something that I'm.
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Why, but why would you assume that? I mean, many people who are wealthy, who have that level
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of income, many of them do engage in philanthropy and do give money and donate. Why is the assumption
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Because to have $50 million. Okay. Yeah. They might donate a little bit here and there, but
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to have that much money. But okay. Well, um, I am coming from like, it would, it would just
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to be clear, it would give you an ick if to, to date a guy who made 50 million versus a guy
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who made 50,000. It's I'm, that's fine. If it's your position, is that your position?
03:03:13.800
Yeah. Kind of. Unless he was willing to help out a lot of causes that I currently help out.
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So you said that you, you said that you donate or you, you give back.
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So I shouldn't, especially right now because I am unemployed, but I'm currently fostering
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three cats. I donate to rescues regularly. Um, what, one of them being my aunt's rescue.
03:03:39.900
I don't know if I'm allowed to name it, but she has like 50 cats in a barn setting and she
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has a lot of land and she puts her entire income into this rescue. So that, and, and like obviously
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living and her, her land costs, but, but I'm just saying like, so if I, 50 million is unimaginable
03:03:59.740
to me because I would have given it to something else. So having that much money just to be
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gluttonous and like what, buy a Gucci bag, like it's, it's pathetic to me. So that's just my stance.
03:04:10.080
Really quick. Let's just come back to, you said you do philanthropy. So you, do you donate
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Uh, yes, I donate to different rescues and people that I know that do TNR, which is trap
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neuter return, um, all over Los Angeles. Uh, I don't know if I'm allowed to shout out.
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How much in the past three years, how much would you say you've donated?
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Um, that's a good question. Well, are you saying monetary donations or cause I, I typically donate
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through food. So I buy from my local place. I'll buy like $300 worth of food and tell her
03:04:46.920
to come pick it up because I want to support my local businesses, my local pet shops.
03:04:52.900
Okay. So you will buy food for the rescue and also donate money. I'll, I'll Venmo different
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people. Uh, okay. Um, and I, and I don't make a ton of money, but I'm just saying if I had
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$50 million, it would be going towards better. What, what was the language you used though?
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You said it was, it was disgusting or was it gross or what? I'm trying to remember exactly
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what you said. I might've said gross, gross. It's gross to have 50 million. What, why is
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that? It's, I don't know. It's just, it's just, are you anti, are you anti? No, I'm not
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at all. Not at all. Then how do you, how do you reconcile? I just couldn't live with myself
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with $50 million. I couldn't live with your, no, you do realize though, if you did have
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50 million, there's so many things that causes that need money. And I'm a huge cat lover, huge
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animal lover. So like different, um, uh, causes that I, yeah. Well, I mean, wouldn't it logically
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rehabilitation and rescues and can you allow me to just, it sounded like there was a period
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there. I started my sentence. I'd appreciate if you let me finish my sentence. So if you
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had $50 million, you could, hell, if you were so inclined, you could give 40 million of that
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to the charities of your choice. But what is the grossness or objection to the 50 million?
03:06:26.360
I don't understand. Meeting somebody with that much money who hasn't like, you would judge
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them. If they hold onto their money, they're, are they evil? What are they? I don't know.
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How's it, why is it greed? I don't think it's greed because, um, and I do understand where
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you're coming from. I don't know if you've ever grown up. I don't know if you've ever grown
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up around wealthy people. I was blessed. My father was a very, very hardworking man. He came
03:06:53.900
from nothing. At some point he was making a couple million a month. He was, I'm not even
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trying to glaze my dad, but he was extremely generous to not only his children and his wife,
03:07:04.680
but to the people around him, to his employees, you know, and I'm not trying to, um, say that
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your opinion is wrong, but I think that you unfortunately just weren't able to experience
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the good side or the good people who are wealthy. I also know a lawyer who tips every time he comes in
03:07:21.040
to a restaurant, he tips the server a hundred dollars, tips the hostess at least 2050. You know, I,
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I don't know, and I'm sorry that you've never experienced that, but in just my experience,
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wealthy people can be extremely generous, even more so than people who are not at that level,
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you know, but I just encourage you to maybe like open up that a little bit because you can also be
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wealthy too. You can help out people. There's nothing stopping you, but I think just having that
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mindset that, oh, wealthy people are greedy and they're gluttonous, and I think that's not only gonna
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kind of make this, it's gonna give you this animosity towards them, it's gonna stop you
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from ever growing as well, but that's just what I think, and I, I love it when you said in the
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beginning of the show that if you already have something in you to be able to be the bad person
03:08:12.460
you can be with a lot of money, that will bring it out when you get a lot of money, and I think
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if you have experience with, with that, it's probably been with people like that. Oh my god,
03:08:24.780
you guys are being way too fucking nice with her. So just to be clear, you would date, you would date,
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boy, if presented with two options of men you could date, and they're both the same, they're both
03:08:36.500
the same, but one makes $50,000 a year, the other makes $5 million a year, you pick the guy who makes
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$50,000. Um, again, it's, it's, it's not like these random scenarios are... Do you want to answer
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the question and then give your explanation? Um, I don't know which one I would choose. I've never
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thought about it, okay? But you just said money gross, money bad. No, but I, what I'm saying is
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somebody who's amassed $50 million and is just like sitting on this pile of wealth for... Well,
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most, hold on, most people who have like a 50M net worth, it's not liquid, it's like in, it's in
03:09:18.420
stocks, and it's in their business, and it's in real estate, and all this stuff. I mean, maybe it
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could, there's probably, there's certainly people who have 50M liquid, but I don't, okay. I just think
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that the personality of the guy making $50,000 would align more with my personality. Assume the
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personality is the same. Or, that's a really difficult... Or, the, the rich guy has a better
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personality than the guy who makes less. Then that's all that matters. So you go the rich guy...
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I go with the person that I fall in love with, Brian. That's what you're not understanding. I
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don't care how much somebody makes. If I fall in love with you, that's... And I don't fall in love
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with you because of money. That's it. Like, it doesn't, it doesn't come into my mind, like, how much
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money do you make? Like, I've never asked that to anybody. I think it's a bit of a virtue signal.
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I mean, I understand that it's maybe low, like, you don't, you'll date a guy, and you can have a
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great relationship with a guy who doesn't have a lot of money. That's absolutely plausible. But this
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idea that once a guy starts earning a lot of money, that then, then he goes into a territory of,
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like, less desirable as he starts making more money. That's kind of odd to me. And this, I,
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like, I think about a guy... He could. He could. I'm not saying that it happens every time.
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But a guy who makes, who's wealthy or well-off, and that might not be $5 million a year. Maybe it's
03:10:48.820
$200,000, $300,000 a year. That's really, that's a really great income. And you can live a really good
03:10:56.080
life off of that. Uh, I don't know. It just seems... Why would it be a negative, though? I don't,
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$200,000, $300,000 is not the same as having $50 million. Well, I could go higher, then. Okay,
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he's a billionaire. You wouldn't date a billionaire? I haven't thought about it. I haven't given it any
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thought. You can think about it right now. But if he, if he wants to, uh, help out cat rescues...
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How about, here's an interesting question for you. Uh, you love him. He loves you. But there's
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one sticking point. He's got a lot of wealth. But he's like, you know, I've got all this money.
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I'm not going to donate any of it, though. He's just, you know, I want to provide for you,
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for the family, and I don't want to donate any of it.
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So what, what is it for? What is it all for? No, that's what I, that's what I ask people,
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like, okay. Hopefully your, your children and the future children and the generations and
03:12:00.860
generations and generational wealth. I don't, that's not what I, that's not, that's not something
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that I aim for. You don't, hold on. Not aiming for generational wealth. No, I don't. Great,
03:12:10.560
great, great grandkids. Wow. That seems a bit dysfunctional. I want them to, I want them to,
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no, I want them to, um, grow up in a similar way that I have. I want them to, um. Wait,
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wait, didn't you say you were like a, like had, I don't, I don't want to say the word abused,
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but you said you had really bad experiences with like your female. Oh, no, I don't have great
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female. Yeah. But you want them to, you want your kids to grow up how you grow up? No, yeah. Well,
03:12:39.020
but being abused by the females in the family? I was not abused whatsoever. Okay. You were mistreated.
03:12:43.260
You were maltreated. I was, I was not abused whatsoever. Um, I like my dad has money, but he didn't,
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he never gave me money and it was never, no. So what I'm saying is, well, was that bad or was
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that good? It was great. It was great. I was taught so many lessons. I, I, yeah. But I think
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even if you're obscenely wealthy, you can still like, I mean, if, if I fell into like vast amounts
03:13:07.620
of wealth, uh, or, you know, I, I'm currently doing fairly well, but I mean, not, not super crazy,
03:13:14.080
not five M or not fucking 10 M 50 M a year. Uh, I don't want to give my children the impression
03:13:21.140
that like, we're insanely rich. Yeah. I want to raise my kids very modestly. Yeah. I want
03:13:26.620
them to struggle a little bit. I want them to work at 16. Like I did. I want them, I want
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the, I want them to have a comfortable life and think, well, hold on. Comfortable life is
03:13:34.660
not 300,000 or two, 5 million. I want their needs to be taken care of. And if there's something
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that they need, then it can be taken care of. And I want, you know, a good home and
03:13:44.880
you know, we, we can have a certain leisure activities and stuff, but like, I don't ever,
03:13:50.820
they're not going to be wearing like fucking bling to school and shit. No, like I want them
03:13:55.820
to, I want, I would want my children to have like some degree of modesty to them. So I don't
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want them to think I'm not going to like instill in them really anything about money in terms
03:14:07.460
of them having like a big head about the family money. Yeah. Well, I want to have money so
03:14:13.760
that I can provide security for my children. When I say security, I just, I don't mean
03:14:18.800
like a security guard, bodyguard. Um, I mean, just having a safe place. Yeah. Have a nice
03:14:24.240
home and take care of necessities and this sort of thing. But you can teach your kids values
03:14:31.220
with money, even though your parents have it. Thank you. Thank you. You can, you can
03:14:35.820
still give the, your, your children that sort of upbringing, even if you're obscenely wealthy,
03:14:42.120
maybe you can hide that shit a little bit. You don't let on to them. I'm a billionaire,
03:14:47.200
blah, blah, blah. You can be like, look, we're doing good. You want a bike. I'll get you a
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bike. You know, let me give you an example of a billionaire. You can still raise them in a
03:14:55.760
modest way. If that makes sense. Go ahead. Elon Musk. You think he's a good dad? You think
03:15:00.740
he's spending time with his children? Because no, he's right. He's, he's in the companies
03:15:05.120
way more. He's building his companies and not his children or their values or anything. And
03:15:10.140
most of them despise him. And that is what wealth. You might think, oh, it's everything. No. Spending
03:15:16.900
time with your family is spending time with your wife and having love between the two of you. And
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like, that's, what's important. And I don't know. I will tell you this. I don't know if you have
03:15:28.700
experienced the lowest of the low. I have also experienced that. And I, I, I think when you do,
03:15:34.920
you will realize how important wealth is. Wealth is everything, especially in America. You cannot
03:15:40.940
get, there's wealth is security. Wealth is respect. You know, again, I don't know if you've ever
03:15:46.900
experienced the complete opposite side to wealth, but I, I am telling you, you know, it is very
03:15:52.980
important. And I would never, um, my, in my opinion, I would want my kids to be comfortable,
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not spoiled, but comfortable. I don't want them to have to worry about, you know, I want them to
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have the best schooling. I want them to have all that stuff. It's luxury to have the time to give
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it to your kids. And if you don't have the wealth, you don't have the time to give them.
03:16:11.440
So to answer your question, you brought up Elon Musk. I don't look, this guy is a very unique,
03:16:17.320
he has a very unique dynamic. I don't think it's really fair to use him as like the go-to example
03:16:23.400
of a billionaire. He has like four or five, six baby mamas. He's like doing like a, uh,
03:16:31.520
like he's trying to, I don't know if it's like clan building where, I mean, he, he wants to impregnate
03:16:35.960
multiple women. That's kind of out of the norm. Do you, does he, he had, look, I think there,
03:16:44.280
there probably reaches a point when you have so many different children with a different
03:16:47.980
mothers and you have, you're operating as like the CEO of like three, four different,
03:16:55.040
like multi-billion dollar companies probably doesn't have a lot of time to be involved.
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And how well they were raised by their, I don't know if I've met a billionaire. I don't know what,
03:17:09.820
so I'm, but I'm saying like children of billionaires, like have their parents aren't
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the best. Well then we, hold on. I don't know if that's even true, but, and by the way,
03:17:22.900
there's very few billionaires, uh, to begin with, but you, you say, I feel like probably
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Elon Musk's children. Look, I don't know the dynamics in terms of like the degree to which he's
03:17:35.240
financially contributing to their lives or whatever. I don't, I don't know if that's
03:17:39.100
ever been investigated. Who knows what the dynamics are. Um, the, his children are probably
03:17:45.920
well off. Uh, so I, I think one of his children is a bit of a interesting one, but, um, wealthy
03:17:54.160
people are just like normal people. I know, I know people that come from so much money and
03:18:00.740
you would have no idea. Their family life is just like everyone else's. There's not, it's not like
03:18:05.660
once you hit a certain amount, you're like a horrible person, a bad parent and like absent,
03:18:11.060
obviously like every parent has their work life and their home life, but it's not like
03:18:16.900
people that are children's of like multimillionaires are like more neglected or whatever,
03:18:23.200
just because their parent makes a lot of money.
03:18:26.680
I mean, is there an experience you've gone through? I grew up in Calabasas and you found
03:18:33.280
that your parents weren't there? No, no, no, no, no. I'm not talking about me. Like I, I had a,
03:18:38.680
I had a great upbringing. I'm just talking about like, who said that wealthy people don't donate?
03:18:45.000
No. Where did that idea come from? I'm, what I'm saying is that when you raise your children
03:18:50.480
with a certain amount of money, they come out toxic, delusional, and, uh, not all, not every
03:18:58.900
time. If you raise them with money, if you draw money at them instead of being their parent. Yes.
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And drug addictions. How do you know this? Can you tilt your mic down? I've, I have, I'm close with a lot
03:19:10.220
of people that come from families that make a lot of money. And none of them have drug addictions or
03:19:15.020
alcohol addictions. Why would they have drug addictions? Um, because they can afford cocaine.
03:19:20.360
What? No, they, they don't, he's not like taking his parents' money and buying coke.
03:19:24.780
Some of the wealthiest people I met again were the most well-behaved and I'm talking people who
03:19:28.760
came from old money. And they go, they like have, they go to schools like Montessori and stuff where
03:19:32.240
they have to learn etiquette and manners in class. Some of them are better behaved again than people
03:19:36.760
who bash on them. It's super simple. Uh, yes. Uh, people from, uh, an affluent background can turn out bad.
03:19:45.020
People who grew up poor can turn out really good, but they can also turn out bad. And then, uh,
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people who grew up rich also can turn out just fine and be, so I don't think it's like the ultimate
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determining factor, but I mean, I do think wealth confers a lot of privileges and benefits that would
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maybe make it more likely, I think, to actually turn out good. Um, not, not necessarily, it's not like
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a guarantee, but I think, you know, if you go to like private school or you have certain benefits
03:20:18.660
like that, or the mom can stay home and she, you know, if the guy, the man's just super wealthy,
03:20:25.800
the, the mother can just stay at home, stay at home. Mom doesn't have to work. I think being a
03:20:33.040
stay at home mom is the, not to say that, you know, if both parents work, not to say that the kid's
03:20:38.640
going to turn out to be some fucking murder or criminal, I think the best result that you can
03:20:43.640
have for children is a mother at home. If you have, so do you agree with that? I completely agree
03:20:48.960
with that. My sister is one of those. And you know what? Her husband doesn't make millions of
03:20:52.640
dollars and they're perfectly there. Some of the happiest couples I know are the ones that are not
03:20:59.280
rich. Okay. That's fine. But like the economic and financial reality is in order to enable one
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person, look, whether it's the man or the woman in order and tip though, typically the typical
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dynamic is the woman stays home in order to enable that the man has to make a certain amount of income
03:21:16.500
for that to be possible. Now there's another component. You can, you know, reduce your lifestyle,
03:21:23.440
reduce those sorts of things. Okay. Well, we're going to have just one car and we're going to live
03:21:27.740
in this neighborhood and we're going to live in this state and we're not going to go on vacation.
03:21:31.220
You can, you know, you can do some flexibility there if the guy is in a massively high earner,
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but if the guy is a high earner, then you can have pretty much all of that. And the wife can stay at
03:21:41.220
home. I guess my confusion here is if you acknowledge that the best thing for the children
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is to have one of the parents stay at home, why wouldn't you date the guy who makes 50 M when you
03:21:52.200
definitely don't have to work then? I, that's just, it's just not something that I am interested in.
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I don't know. I don't know what else to say. I don't want to raise my kids with $50 million,
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even though it's security for both of you. So just, yeah, yeah, exactly. Then my husband also
03:22:09.380
wouldn't work. If we had $50 million, then we just, you know, probably wouldn't. Yeah. I mean,
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if he's, let's say, I mean, maybe he wants to work though. And he, you know, um, let's just say he's
03:22:19.500
the, the wealth is at a level where he, he's like, well, I don't want to retire. Uh, but he makes a lot
03:22:26.260
of money. I don't know. I'm just confused. Like, so you would rather like hustle and struggle and have
03:22:34.120
a husband and perhaps even yourself that are going to have to work until retirement age or post
03:22:40.280
retirement age versus assuming some in this hypothetical, a guy who makes $10 million a
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year, you wouldn't take that. Um, I just don't see that those people being the same kind of person.
03:22:59.080
That's all I'm saying. Okay. So here I'll, I'll ask it super simply two options. Yes. You could date a
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guy and he's a good guy, treats you well, whatever you're attracted to him. Uh, he makes 10,
03:23:10.260
million dollars a year guy. Number one. And an entailment of that is you don't have to work.
03:23:17.080
He's like, look, I'm making good money. I just, you don't have to work. I'll retire you. Just take
03:23:23.860
care of the kids, take care of the household, take care of the family, whatever. And that 10 million a
03:23:27.840
year, look, you guys can, but is he absent all the time? Let's just say this. Um, I don't know. Uh,
03:23:34.320
he, he, um, he works, what's the average 40 hours a week is the average. All right. I'll put it at 50
03:23:42.500
hours just because, um, you know, he's a 10 million a year. Yeah. He's working, he's working above
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average. He's working 50 hours a week. Uh, option number two, he makes $50,000 a year. And in order,
03:24:02.640
or the financial reality of living in California or wherever you want to live, whatever, that's
03:24:07.080
kind of secondary, you're going to have to work too. You're both going to have to work for the
03:24:10.560
rest of your lives. Which, which man do you pick? And he's good and he, he treats you well and blah,
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blah, blah. Oh my God. I would probably pick the guy that makes, you said 5 million or 10,
03:24:22.040
$10 million a year? I think 10 million, 10 million. I would probably pick that because I don't want
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to work when I have young children. Then what the fuck are we arguing about? Hello? I just,
03:24:34.320
I'm just saying that I don't discriminate. I don't discriminate based on how much money you make. I
03:24:42.460
don't ask questions of how much money do you make or Google what their job is or, you know, I don't
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care. That's what I'm, that's my only point. I don't know why we're stuck on this. Well, no, but it,
03:24:52.720
it got to a point where there, it wasn't just, look, if he makes 50, I understand that you'll date
03:24:59.400
a guy who doesn't make a lot of money. That's totally fine. I have no qualms there, but then
03:25:04.100
it got into this conversation about I, it's icky. Like somebody sitting on 50, if somebody has a lot of
03:25:13.000
money, that's kind of icky. I would perhaps, I understand you don't care about it, but it's
03:25:19.320
kind of like, I don't understand why you wouldn't just take it. Like, okay, two guys, they're
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equivalent. One makes $50,000 a year. One makes $10 million. Like they're never the same person.
03:25:32.680
The benefit though, the benefit that it would extend to you for a guy to be that wealthy.
03:25:38.700
It's just, you could have a maid, you could have a private chef, all your expenses are,
03:25:46.020
you'll never have to worry about money in your life again. People's number one stressors in life
03:25:51.860
is like job and money. And I got to pay the rent and my fucking healthcare, everything you date a
03:25:57.360
guy, you marry a guy who makes 10 M you're good for life. All that stress is gone. You can stop
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working and go. And she won't take it. I don't under, whatever. Take care of the cats you wanted
03:26:08.240
to take care of. No, but when you're, but when, when you're working, it builds character and it
03:26:14.080
also. No, it doesn't. You're a slave for some bullshit corporation. Working sucks. It kind of
03:26:18.520
reminds me of, you know, like the little princess that wants to go out to see like. Dude, I've had,
03:26:22.520
I've had so much. I've traveled a ton and I've had a lot of different jobs and I've seen a lot of
03:26:28.000
things. I've done a lot of things. You're acting like I'm some immature. You want to struggle.
03:26:32.000
Basically. I mean, it's sadism or no, sorry. Masochism. My bad. No, but also it's not that
03:26:38.820
I want to struggle. I don't think work is a struggle. You just said it's a job and it's
03:26:42.760
discriminate. And then you're saying that people that make that are high earners are like bad
03:26:47.540
people. I'm not saying that they're all bad. That's not what I'm implied. I said the chances
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of your children being for lack of a better term effed up is if you're a billionaire, it's,
03:27:04.880
it's higher than you would think. Well, what about just like, uh, instead of going extreme
03:27:09.700
with billionaire, what about just like a guy who makes like five, five M a year? Are your,
03:27:16.260
are your chances of being fucked up higher? If your father makes that much money?
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I, I, I don't know, but wouldn't that be an extension of
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is there more money, more problems? Oh my God. I it's, it's completely backwards. Your chances.
03:27:36.160
I are. I think you think that, but what I've witnessed and what I've seen through my lifetime
03:27:42.140
leads me to believe that when you raise your children to be entitled and rich and whatever,
03:27:50.340
they end up. These virtues can hold on. These virtues can be instilled in children regardless
03:27:57.380
of your wealth. Yeah. It's not the money. It's the parents. Yep. For sure. If you're, yeah. If you
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spoil your kids, then yeah, sure. I guess, but that's just not what I want. Yeah. You got kids running
03:28:07.120
around shooting each other in the hood. It doesn't make a difference. Like that's a good point. Like
03:28:11.420
it seems like there's maybe a bit more crime and in like neighborhoods where the socioeconomics
03:28:17.680
are not that great. My ideal situation, let me just like put it into perspective a little
03:28:22.480
bit. Like are there gang bangers in Montecito? Ideally. Like, no, there's fucking gang bangers
03:28:27.440
in Compton though, or wherever the fuck there's a bunch of gang. And these are typically like
03:28:31.260
the, you look at the socioeconomics of the neighborhoods where there's gang banging. It's not a bunch of
03:28:36.580
affluent, you know, blah, blah, like it's not an affluent neighborhood. I understand. Ideally,
03:28:42.840
I want to like live on a ranch, have some kids. You're going to live on a, where? Yes.
03:28:47.640
Yes. In California. No, not in California. I told you, I don't intend on staying here. You're going to live in a fucking ranch? Do you know how expensive?
03:28:53.900
Ranchers are fucking expensive. Do you want some horses? Oh my gosh. Do you know how much animals cost? Horses are so expensive. Wait, it's just, I think it's so.
03:29:06.980
They're expensive everywhere. Yeah. The best thing you can get to your kids is like race car or a horse because they will never have enough time or money to do anything else that is stupid.
03:29:16.100
I think you really need to check your privilege. Check your privilege. I think that's what it is. I, I'm not trying to bash you for being well, again, like I, I've been there. I've done that. I've lived many lives, but you, I think you seriously need to experience what it is like to be the average man or woman working for $20 an hour. I think you really need to experience that before you go around saying that, oh, like, you know, all people who are rich.
03:29:45.640
You think I haven't done that? I've been a server. You haven't been low enough to be thankful of getting the millions. Okay. Anyway, I'm moving on.
03:29:54.760
Just, I guess, final thing on this. You say that you think it's more likely that these kids are going to be dysfunctional if they grow up in a household where the parents are affluent. I think that's completely backwards. I think when you have money that provides certain privileges and benefits for children.
03:30:11.400
And look, it's, it's certainly possible that, yes, maybe the kids could be spoiled. Maybe they have some sort of entitlement. I think that that can be combated against by not spoiling them, by teaching them virtue, by teaching them modesty. Yes, you know, we're, uh, father does well, but there's, there's other things besides wealth that are important.
03:30:31.080
Again, cultivate virtue and a wealthy father can teach their kids that also it confers a ton of benefits. Your wife can stay home and take care of the kids. You can send them to the best schools. They can have, uh, you know, great doctors.
03:30:47.080
Doctors that they can have their healthcare needs taken care of. They can have all these things that set them up to become the best person. Maybe you get them involved in sports and they can have like a personal trainer or they can have like a private, uh, it's not a private what in sports, like a private trainer. I don't know what it would be. Um, you can really set up your kids, uh, in life with money in a way that's not going to make them like these spoiled brats, basically.
03:31:17.080
And, and, and you can, not only that your own life can be extremely comfortable. So I don't know this, this defaulting to, oh, well, if you're wealthy, your kids are going to grow up and be worse off. What? That just doesn't know. I, aside from health privilege, like having good health, I think that's the best privilege you can have.
03:31:40.920
Like if, if, if you are born and you have a bunch of health problems and you're born into a wealthy family, I mean, better than to be, have health problems and be born poor. But, uh, if you are otherwise healthy and you're born into a wealthy family, that's the biggest privilege you can have.
03:31:58.540
That's going to set you up the best in life to, you know, have a good trajectory in your own life. It's one, it's the number one privilege, but you don't seem to think so. You seem to think it's a negative. That's interesting.
03:32:14.340
My point is that I don't want to raise my kids with $50 million. I'm not looking to be uber wealthy or, and I'm not trying to date a millionaire. I don't know why this whole conversation is so controversial for you guys. I, it's not, it was not meant to be. It's just not what I'm looking for. I prefer like a more modest life.
03:32:37.100
So you think that money makes people who they are?
03:32:41.280
No, not necessarily, but it can absolutely corrupt you. I just, can we move on?
03:32:47.480
Yeah. I want to move on again. We, we are acknowledging that you'll date a guy who makes 50 K. We, we understand that. But if the option presents itself to date a guy who makes 50 M.
03:33:01.700
Okay. I guess we'll leave it at that. We have a message from Pacey George here.
03:33:11.780
Pacey George donated $200 and four cents. I'm a millionaire and I'm having a hard time understanding how having so much money can be gross as you just put it. Please enlighten me.
03:33:23.920
I think we just talked about this, but if you want to answer, you can. Laura.
03:33:32.240
Yeah, I know. I heard you. Um, I think, I think I already touched on it. Yeah.
03:33:37.420
Um, we already talked about that. Um, let's go back to, I didn't finish the bear question. So to you.
03:33:45.680
Okay. Um, so, um, I live in New York and where I live, like the black bears are pussies. So if it was one of those bears, yes.
03:33:55.040
Okay. So it would, I want to say man and I'm working on saying man, but I have to admit just because of some prejudices I have from stuff I've been through, I, I would, I guess I would say man, even though it's hard for me, but man.
03:34:09.540
Um, I didn't meet my father until he was nine and he was a real prick. So like every, like I was dreaming of meeting him and then he was awful for 10 years.
03:34:17.360
And I, I realized that this year for the first time that I don't trust men, but it's not them. It's me not letting them in. So, so you think that, like, what do you, I guess, how does that relate to the bear question?
03:34:34.740
Why? Because you think they're going to hurt you?
03:34:36.360
Yeah. Because for a long time they, that's all they did. But like I said, uh, I'm working on it cause I realized that, oh wait, this is me. Cause that was a long time ago.
03:34:45.100
So, yeah, I understand. But also like, I feel like if we replaced every man, they'd walk by on the sidewalk with a random bear, black, brown, polar bear.
03:34:56.700
That's it. And like, we don't have grizzly bears. So I've never even seen how crazy those guys get. So.
03:35:10.520
Well, I guess, um, you two were the only ones that were like, uh, maybe like on the fence, but you did both say man.
03:35:21.960
Let me, should I ask the questionnaire questions, Brian?
03:35:30.800
No, I don't have any more. I already asked all my silly questions.
03:35:34.320
Okay. Um, men should pay on first dates. You agree?
03:35:51.400
You agree? You agree? You agree? No? Okay. You agree?
03:36:11.140
Um, I will keep my last name or hyphenate in marriage.
03:36:21.420
Um, I mean, it depends who this guy is going to be, like what their last name is. Um, if
03:36:28.340
I'd rather keep mine or not involved. So I like my last name and I have a problem with
03:36:34.400
it. Yeah. Well, you, you said you think men should pay on first dates. Basically like
03:36:39.760
you, you believe that men should be more traditional, right? But I think, uh, taking
03:36:44.880
your husband's last name is traditional. Yeah. So it's kind of like hypocritical.
03:36:51.420
I think it's kind of ridiculous to not, um, take his last name. If you're expecting him
03:36:56.620
to be more traditional, like if you're not willing to be traditional, why should he be
03:37:01.200
No, I mean, I definitely more than likely would, but I like my last name because I've
03:37:05.500
also built my own, you know, reputation brand around it. So that's my reason.
03:37:11.760
Okay. But do you think he would get offended? Like, I feel like most men, they would be,
03:37:15.820
or not most, but some men would be offended if they were like, my wife doesn't want my
03:37:19.700
last name. I guess it's, uh, in Hispanic cultures, it's pretty common. Like they'll
03:37:23.940
keep. Oh, that's true. Okay. Yeah. And then you also agreed that you would keep your last
03:37:28.880
name. I will take you. You'll take it. Anyone else want to keep their name? No. You were the
03:37:35.300
only one. Uh, past should not matter. It absolutely should matter. Yeah. I think it depends. Like
03:37:43.340
if you have been like, you like believe you've been redeemed and you're doing better in life,
03:37:47.560
then it's like, yeah, like every saint has a past, every sinner has a future type stuff. But if you're
03:37:51.980
still actively being detrimental to yourself, then yeah, it definitely matters. And I think if you're
03:37:58.100
with somebody, your partner should know because they should be able to decide, you know?
03:38:02.060
Oh, I think you shouldn't ask questions you don't want answers to because it's going to matter.
03:38:06.800
So don't ask if you don't want to know it. Like with body counts. What do you, so you guys didn't
03:38:11.900
answer. Do you think past should matter? Yeah. No, I did. I answered on the question. And you too?
03:38:16.740
Yeah. Yeah. So you were the only one that said like, it depends. Yeah. Like if you're still actively
03:38:21.840
harming yourself and harming others around you, then your past is really important because that's
03:38:27.800
like, you're still actively living it. But if you've trying to be a better person, then like, I do still
03:38:32.720
think you should share it with your partner because if it comes out later about all of
03:38:36.820
this and you're already committed or been around for a long time or been married, like
03:38:40.820
it's just going to cause more problems. I agree. I think people can change, but I have another
03:38:46.400
question. Would you ever, well, you're married, but let's say in this hypothetical you're not,
03:38:52.060
would you ever date someone that, or a man that used to have sex with men?
03:38:55.700
I think it would depend on if he, um, so like I am a Christian and if he thought that like,
03:39:05.520
okay, I'm born again and I'm no longer this way and then yes. But if he didn't have like
03:39:11.220
the right motivations, like I, well, you're not, I don't want to say the right motivations,
03:39:14.180
but like I just, in that situation, I'd be a little bit more trusting that he's not going
03:39:18.580
to go back to men on me, you know? But I think, I think if I just met him and he was like, oh,
03:39:23.940
by the way, like a month ago I dated men, I'd be like, no, because men always pick men if they
03:39:29.380
can, I think so. Men always pick men? Like, it was just something like my friends would say growing
03:39:34.820
up. Yeah, I'm interested, like what does that mean? Like we would just joke around growing up,
03:39:37.840
like, um, anybody I knew, like all my friends who were gay, they'd be like, they'd say I'm bi,
03:39:41.720
but not really. Like if I could pick a man, I'd pick a man. Oh. Yeah. I've never heard of that.
03:39:47.160
Interesting. So I guess your answer's kind of following like the it depends. Okay. Um,
03:39:52.820
women put in more effort when it comes to dating. Do you agree? No, I don't agree. Do you agree?
03:40:00.160
Yep. I think I said not necessarily. I think it's very even. What do you guys think? I don't agree
03:40:08.180
that women put in more effort. I don't think so. I've been dated in a long time, so I don't really
03:40:13.320
know, but yeah, I don't think so. I think I said yes. And you? I don't really know. So for those who
03:40:19.720
said yes, why do you think that? It depends, but with the beginning of dating, the woman usually
03:40:29.380
does everything before the date. It's like you're shaving your legs, you're doing your makeup,
03:40:34.380
you're doing your hair, you're picking clothes, and men have the easy road to just get their clothes
03:40:41.280
off. To wake up. To wake up. Hopefully pick you up and pay. Yeah, but I think paying requires effort,
03:40:48.400
right? Like they have to work for that money, and I don't know how much they make if they work just
03:40:54.100
like a regular job. However, like say you're going on like a hundred dollar date, and the guy makes
03:41:00.240
like twenty dollars an hour, he's gonna have to work four hours or more, whatever, to pay for that.
03:41:06.360
But I think I don't necessarily need a date like that. You can plan something that I agree, go and
03:41:12.980
walk out in a park or something, and I'm still gonna give my all to like look perfect. And this is
03:41:18.340
just like a personal question of mine. It's not on the questionnaire. What do you guys think like when
03:41:22.260
a guy wants to take you somewhere super fancy for the first date, like really expensive? I used to
03:41:29.540
like if my... Do you like it? Oh yeah, of course. Who doesn't like to be treated that way? But I would
03:41:35.240
always, if I went on a date and the guy like insisted on paying, I always paid the tip at least. But like
03:41:40.000
let's say it's a place where it's like $800. Oh, and it's like a first date? Yeah, first date. I'd be like no,
03:41:46.160
can we not? Too much pressure. What do you guys think? I think that they're trying to impress, or that's
03:41:50.540
just what they're used to. Like that's the lifestyle they're used to. I'd be like can we go to a diner
03:41:54.620
instead? You really have to hear and see how this person is. Because I do know that a lot of men will
03:42:00.260
do this to try and get you in their bed quicker. So I'm not saying that all men who do that, no
03:42:05.580
absolutely not. But I think you have to be very attentive of people who do this, who just throw
03:42:11.420
money. Some people are generous, but also an equal amount can expect something. So yeah, you always
03:42:19.360
got to be a little bit careful because nothing is necessarily free. That happened to me one time,
03:42:23.740
this guy that was just my friend, he was like, do you want to go to Nobu? And I felt really
03:42:29.180
uncomfortable. I was like, I don't want to go to Nobu. That's why I wanted to ask because I've heard
03:42:33.240
girls say that they would like that and they want to be wined and dined and all that. But I would
03:42:38.160
prefer like a regular place. I don't think you should ever. If somebody offers you and you know,
03:42:43.220
oh wait, were you dating this person? No, no. So he was like a friend and he was like, oh,
03:42:46.880
I'm interested in you. Do you want to go to Nobu? And I was like, no, I don't want to go to Nobu.
03:42:50.880
Well, I mean, I think if anything, if this helps, that means he definitely sees you in a very high
03:42:55.460
light, you know? So if he's been friends with you for a while and he's like, let me take you to Nobu,
03:42:59.740
but you still need to be careful, you know? I think it's easier. Like, like I knew I was not
03:43:03.960
going to sleep with any man, you know, like, cause I was waiting. So like that made it easier. Cause
03:43:07.420
like, yeah, you can take me there, but you're not taking me home, you know? Yeah. Okay. Next
03:43:13.480
question. Dating is our statement. Dating is harder for women who agrees or disagrees. You think
03:43:19.820
dating is harder for women? No. I'm sure. I mean, from my perspective, yes. But why? Why
03:43:28.580
do you say yes? Just especially men in LA, they're just very, they are different than what
03:43:34.940
I'm used to. I'm not even from LA. I'm from St. Louis, like a smaller town. So they're definitely
03:43:41.360
more so into like open relationships, not monogamy. Like they're not poly. It's just
03:43:49.560
crazy. Yeah. No. So many poly situationships. I have friends and I'm like, oh, we're poly
03:43:54.500
now. And I'm like, yeah. Oh, great. Like I'm not. And then like a year later, their marriage
03:43:58.960
falls apart. Like breaking up soon. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. We're cheating on each other. It's
03:44:04.360
fine. It's great. Exactly. What do you guys think dating is? Do you think dating is harder
03:44:08.640
for women? I think dating is hard if you make it hard, man or woman. I think the step that
03:44:14.240
people always skip is making sure that you are what you want from another person. And
03:44:19.840
that's why people are running around because they don't even show or they can't even be
03:44:24.740
disciplined towards themselves. Yet they expect other people to be disciplined and respectful
03:44:29.740
towards them. It doesn't, you can't have the two. You cannot go out and expect others
03:44:34.820
to respect you if you're not showing that you respect yourself. So I think the number
03:44:39.420
one trick to dating is really just taking care of yourself first before ever going out and
03:44:44.700
pointing your fingers at other people. It doesn't matter if you're a man or a woman, but that's
03:44:48.460
just what I believe. So yeah, I don't think it's really harder for anyone. I think it's hard
03:44:52.640
if you're like dating someone that's like a psycho, crazy stalker, like, yeah, dating is
03:44:58.200
going to be harder for you, whatever gender you are. But I don't think it's like harder
03:45:02.600
for one specific gender. What do you guys think? I think getting the date might be a little
03:45:07.660
easier for the woman. Oh yeah. Yeah, definitely. What do you guys think? I agree with that.
03:45:14.740
Yeah. Okay. Um, getting laid is harder for women. Does anyone agree or disagree with that?
03:45:23.240
You could literally be the biggest butter face and hey, you want to do it? The next guy on the
03:45:27.960
street is going to say yes. So yeah. Yeah. It's too easy. Oh, sorry. So who, who disagrees?
03:45:34.360
Who disagrees that getting laid is, or yeah, getting laid is harder for women? Does anyone
03:45:39.660
disagree? I don't think anyone. None of them disagree. Um, men are more superficial than
03:45:47.400
women. No, no. Well, you, you agreed that they are more circled. That's on the LA. Yeah.
03:45:55.520
LA side. Anyone else think men are more superficial than women? It depends, but yeah.
03:46:00.940
So what do you, what, why do you think that? Um, just as only for California, like LA specifically,
03:46:08.640
um, the men, you know, they expect the women to drive, you know, like top of line cars. Like
03:46:14.960
they expect the women to have like all of these things and I don't know all of this money.
03:46:20.640
So they do. Yeah. I don't date in LA. Yeah. They definitely like have high expectations
03:46:26.460
or maybe they just already assume like, Oh, they're dating all these other men. So they
03:46:30.620
should have, I don't know. Just like, I was just like, the minute we got off the plane here,
03:46:34.300
we're like, Oh, this place is different. Like you could just see like the way everybody was
03:46:38.180
like dressed, even the men, like you said, they were like, there was a guy on the tram to
03:46:41.800
go get our luggage. Like who was like definitely showing off. Like he was just randomly going,
03:46:45.460
very all about like image, you know? Yeah. Yeah. So superficial, you know, showing off his
03:46:51.060
clothes and does anyone think, um, women are more superficial? We're much more materialistic.
03:46:57.820
I think that's a fact and it's, there's no shame in saying that, saying that we are, I
03:47:02.580
truly don't think we should try and, um, say, no, we're not materialistic. No, we don't like
03:47:08.500
nice things. Cause I just don't think that's true. Um, we are gatherers. So we like to go
03:47:13.720
around and get the stuff and everything like that. Um, I think men, you know, just
03:47:18.440
like Brian was explaining, they're very, very, very simple creatures. Um, I think
03:47:23.180
when they're looking for someone to be a wife, they're just looking for someone who
03:47:26.260
can take care of their kids and bear them healthfully. So, um, I think men are
03:47:30.880
extremely simple in comparison to women. There's no shame at all of having like
03:47:36.340
these standards as a woman, but also to say that we're not superficial or men are
03:47:42.180
more superficial than us. It's just not true. I think on the first date base, men
03:47:46.480
are more superficial because it's like, you see a pretty girl, you want to take
03:47:50.200
her out. You see a not so pretty girl, you probably don't want to take her out, but
03:47:54.500
women have like, they give more chances to a guy who doesn't look a certain way, but
03:48:01.760
then we have the other things we want and need, like being funny and stuff. That is
03:48:05.820
true. I think if anything, we can say in different ways, in different ways. But yeah, I
03:48:11.320
agree with that. Men care more about looks than women do. Does anyone agree with
03:48:18.200
that or disagree? If it was like 10 years ago, I would disagree, but not anymore. So
03:48:23.520
you don't think men care more about looks than women? I think they used to, but I
03:48:29.000
think women care more now. Okay. What do you guys think? Might be possible, but the
03:48:35.380
same thing. I think it's the first date basis because women will date men lower than
03:48:42.260
they level, like on the outside. It will give them a chance. I've seen men do that
03:48:47.700
too. Yeah. I think when you have something, you don't look for it in others. So if you're
03:48:54.000
like, I mean, I've seen very handsome guys be with not, you know, so pretty girls and I've
03:48:58.940
seen very gorgeous girl be with like not so handsome guys. So I think it's a very
03:49:04.020
strange, like a paradox, I would call it. That's just something I do. If you're naturally
03:49:08.520
pretty, you're usually not that superficial. Yes. When you have to put a lot of work to
03:49:14.700
look that pretty, then you usually want a guy who is also a handsome. Does anyone else
03:49:20.100
think men care more about looks than women? No? Okay. A woman should not be rejected because
03:49:26.400
of her weight. You agreed with that? That she shouldn't? Yeah, I agree. Why? Um, I mean.
03:49:32.540
Oh, into the mic, please. Oh, sorry. Sorry, sorry. I'm far back. Um, I just don't think
03:49:37.400
that weight should matter if, if the guy likes a woman for being big, then that's what he
03:49:43.240
likes. So. No, it's like if a guy, like say a bigger girl was interested in the guy and
03:49:49.260
he was like, I don't want to date you because you're bigger. Do you think that's wrong?
03:49:53.000
Um, that's his preference. He's allowed to feel that way. You can't force attraction. Yeah. Yeah.
03:49:58.900
That's, yeah. It is wrong like on a paper, but you can't. Like, I think, you know, if the girl
03:50:05.060
showed up and she's a little thicker than you thought, maybe give her a chance, but be honest,
03:50:08.600
be like, hey, this isn't going to work out. If it isn't, but you know, you never know. She could
03:50:12.180
be really great. So. I mean, if you're not attracted to them, what's the point? Yeah. It's not
03:50:16.840
going to work out. Um, it's wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns
03:50:22.200
him down for sex. Does anyone agree? I think, you know, I know a lot. Oh, sorry. If it
03:50:27.040
continues. Yeah. I think it's reasonable. I mean, I don't want to make it seem like, oh,
03:50:32.480
this is our duty as woman is the only thing we're good for. No, but men need, like they
03:50:37.780
have a lot of testosterone and they need to be able to, you know, have someone to, um, have
03:50:43.060
that act with. I do not think it should be something that you feel forced to do, but he
03:50:48.200
at the same time should have every right to say, hey, I need to find someone who can meet
03:50:52.520
my needs, you know? But yeah, I think it's absolutely okay for a man to separate with
03:50:57.540
his girlfriend. And a lot of women use it as something to, what's the word? Like when
03:51:02.820
you want something. They play a game. Yeah. Yeah. And if your sex drives aren't the same,
03:51:07.620
your relationship is just doomed to fail. It's just this. Yeah. You guys agree or disagree?
03:51:13.060
What do you think? No, I agree with what you said, especially in, um, a marriage. I think
03:51:18.760
it's a little bit different than like a girlfriend. Um, yeah. Absolutely. Like do my best to never
03:51:25.500
say no. Yeah. I feel like when you become a wife, it is more of your duty, especially from
03:51:30.060
like a Christian point of view, but a girlfriend, absolutely. Yeah. Okay. Brian's coming back.
03:51:36.900
Okay. Uh, I would not date a man who owned a firearm. Does anyone agree? They wouldn't
03:51:44.320
date a man that I would date a man if he owned a firearm. Yeah.
03:51:51.180
It's like a big thing to own a gun. I hate it. All right, guys. I stepped away there for
03:51:56.980
a moment, but, uh, I didn't, I was listening to the conversation. Nevertheless, I did have
03:52:02.320
a few thoughts on a couple of things, a couple of things I heard. Um, sorry, I'm not good
03:52:07.800
at debating. No, you're fine. You're fine. It was still good to just get through all
03:52:11.060
that. We were just agreeing way too much. You have very good secondary questions.
03:52:15.840
Thanks. Uh, so there was, there's a few things that we were going to get into. There was one
03:52:20.120
of her disagreements, but I'll say that for later. There was something about somebody wanting
03:52:24.460
income, the bear thing, but first I want to come to a few of the questions that Felicity
03:52:30.180
just asked. So it's just the first four first five, actually, uh, men should pay on first
03:52:35.360
dates. Uh, just, I know some of you guys circled these just go ahead and, uh, we'll just do
03:52:41.680
hand raises. If you agree with the statement, men should pay on first dates, raise them high,
03:52:47.520
please raise them high. You're the only one. Okay. Uh, men should provide and protect
03:52:53.360
okay. Men should be chivalrous. Okay. Husband should be willing to die protecting me. Take
03:53:06.120
the bullet. Uh, okay. Um, Sabrina, you, did you raise your hand for that? Yes. Did you? Oh,
03:53:17.520
I didn't see it. I just saw these. Maybe I missed it, but you, the husband should be willing to
03:53:22.040
die protecting all of you. Yes. However, those are the first four. Uh, hold on. Oh, wait, am I
03:53:30.000
fucking this up? I think, uh, I will keep my last name or hyphenate in marriage. Let me see if
03:53:37.040
anybody circled that actually wait, hold on. None of you want to hyphenate all of you will take your
03:53:46.840
husband's last name. Yeah. Why not? I said possibly like keep mine hyphenated. Um, because I like my
03:53:53.540
last name. I like my last name and also, um, just, I don't know. It's just like your culture.
03:54:01.380
So you guys do that too, right? Yeah. In Hispanic culture, they usually, Oh, do they do that? Yeah.
03:54:06.720
They usually have like double last name. Um, you're, are you Afro-Cuban or what? No, I'm
03:54:14.140
mixed. So I have a lot going on. So on my mom's side, it's Italian, Irish, German. Then my dad's
03:54:21.080
side is like Creole. So it's black, but then like Mexican. Gotcha. Yeah. Um, see a lot. What
03:54:29.000
about your kids? Will, will they have your husband's last name? More than likely. Okay. Yeah. But
03:54:34.420
nobody else wants to like hyphenate or no. Okay. All right. Actually, there's nothing really
03:54:39.820
there then. Um, I would say at least to you though, I, I kind of muddies the water a little
03:54:45.140
bit just because you said, I understand culturally with like more like Latino, Latina, Hispanic
03:54:51.480
culture. I guess it's kind of common. I'm really not. Oh no. Um, who do we, it's more common.
03:54:58.420
Do we have any Latinos in the chat who can help me figure this out? Is it, I guess it's a thing.
03:55:04.420
If, if it is culturally more common, I guess, whatever, although you do live in the United
03:55:09.240
States. So, uh, I think at least in the United States, I don't know if like among like, for
03:55:15.660
example, Mexican immigrants, legal immigrants to the United States, if they're doing the
03:55:21.560
shared last name thing, I, I don't know. Um, and I, I imagine it differs, you know, there's
03:55:28.780
so many like Latin American countries, there's Puerto Rico, there's the Caribbean. Um, so
03:55:35.820
yeah, anyways, whatever. I don't know. Uh, somebody said it's only, is it only a Mexican
03:55:43.300
thing? Like what about in like Costa Rica or Panama or Peru or Argentina? I don't know.
03:55:53.480
Do they do the multiple last names thing or I don't know. Um, okay. Did you, uh, you
03:56:00.260
did the, this one here? Yeah. Okay. But I didn't ask the second part. Okay. I'll get
03:56:05.860
to that then. Um, Oh, did you just do this one? The rejected because of her weight? A
03:56:11.140
woman should not. Oh wow. Wait, you got to 15? Yeah. You did the, no. Oh wait, I thought
03:56:17.320
you just did the firearm one. Yeah. So 15 would be my next one. Oh, gotcha. Okay. Uh, so a
03:56:23.040
woman should not be rejected because of her weight. You agree. Uh, anybody else on that?
03:56:31.180
Uh, we just kind of talked about how you can't force attraction. Yeah. We can get, we went
03:56:34.580
over it. Okay. Didn't you say you would only date a guy who's six feet, six foot one? I
03:56:42.620
would prefer a guy who's over six feet. Like I've dated shorter, but it's just, I want to
03:56:47.080
be able to wear heels around my man. Yeah. And your body type, you're very thin, but like
03:56:51.160
long, so that makes sense. Yeah. Like lengthy. Like I just want someone I can wear heels
03:56:55.300
around and. Okay. Yeah. But so. My ex is six foot nine. Is it wrong to reject a woman
03:57:02.720
because of her weight? Like if she's overweight? No. Is it wrong to reject her? I don't think
03:57:08.180
it's wrong. Oh. To reject her. But you said the woman should not be rejected because of
03:57:12.360
her weight. I said she should not, but that would be his preference. We talked about it.
03:57:17.620
She misunderstood. She was like. Oh, okay. Yeah. Okay. Did anybody go in on this one?
03:57:25.480
13? No, I don't think so. Wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend. If she regularly turns
03:57:31.700
him down for. Yeah. They're all fine with it. Okay. Well, I don't know if you answered
03:57:35.540
that. We were agreeing too much. I was in the restroom, but yeah, yeah, definitely. If you're
03:57:40.780
in a long, dry spell, there's something wrong. Yeah. I agree. Rock and roll. Um, really quick
03:57:46.880
on the minimum yearly income. You said $300,000. It seems like nobody, was there any higher?
03:57:52.360
Like, why was that the highest? Um, I mean, it's not, it's not crazy. It's not even a million.
03:57:58.320
Would you date a guy who like 200 K even? Even two. Okay. That's fine. It's not like a hundred
03:58:04.400
K and up really. I mean, nobody's going to say 300. I almost, let's do the calculator really
03:58:09.320
quick. We don't do the calculator very often. We'll do the calculator super quick. We're going
03:58:12.280
to see how many men there are out there that meet your criteria. Uh, I've done this. All
03:58:18.400
right. Uh, scroll down. I've done this and I'm at like 6%. Scroll down, scroll down, scroll
03:58:21.400
down, scroll down. Uh, okay. Age of men you're rolling today. It's great. Oh my God. Oh,
03:58:26.000
the unwilling. Yeah. Cut off at 40. Yeah. Cause that's even kind of, uh, minimum minimum
03:58:32.120
20, 23, 21, you'll date 21. You'll date. How old are you again? Oh, cougar over here.
03:58:41.120
Eh, not that bad. Uh, so, okay. 21 to 40. And do you want to exclude men who are married?
03:58:49.720
Of course. Okay. I don't know why that's such a, you should just get rid of that. There are a lot
03:58:55.480
of people out there that think that's hot and that's just disgusting. Okay. Race? Um, doesn't
03:59:00.360
matter. Any color or shade? Yeah. Okay. Minimum height. Let's, I think, was it six one or six
03:59:05.480
foot? Six foot. Okay. Six foot. Exclude obese? Yeah. Yes. Okay. Minimum income 300k. All right.
03:59:14.140
All right. Find out. Probability. Your ideal man. 0.048. No. Uh, shit. I'm going to pull
03:59:25.860
it back up. Um, damn. Uh, okay. How do you feel about that? I mean, I feel like, am I being
03:59:34.340
that unrealistic? Like I live in LA. The men I've dated have had money. They've been well
03:59:40.640
off. They have like great homes, um, lifestyles. So if they're not making that much, that's
03:59:47.260
what I'm thinking they're making or what they're saying they're making over 200. It's factoring
03:59:51.880
in the entire U S. So the, the proportion of men who are six feet and fall into this age
04:00:00.200
range and that make $300,000. I mean, the height in the $300,000 is going to be the primary
04:00:08.220
limiting thing here in terms of probability. Uh, what's that? I want to do it. Uh, maybe
04:00:20.020
next time. Uh, remind me though, we'll do it. We'll do it. Um, okay. So there's that. Uh,
04:00:25.700
and then there's a couple of people on the bear, right? Um, it was just, any crazy height requirements?
04:00:32.160
It was just six and up. That was the highest we got. Uh, bear who picked bear? We both
04:00:38.640
said bear or man. Into the mic please. I'm sorry. We both said man or bear. We weren't.
04:00:44.460
I said it depends. Yeah. I said like bear only because, but that's on me because of past experiences.
04:00:50.260
I want it to be man and I'm working on that. I'm healing myself. So you think that like the
04:00:55.480
man would harm you? I just, a lot of times, like even just meeting a guy, like I need to,
04:01:00.920
I keep my distance naturally. And like I said, I didn't even notice I did any of this
04:01:04.700
until this year. Okay. So I'm trying to not be like that and to give everyone a chance.
04:01:10.860
And then she picked bear too? No, I picked man, but I said, I'm afraid of neither. I've run into
04:01:17.080
bear and man. Um, I'll just skip push back on the bear for tonight. Um, and then there was a
04:01:24.460
disagreement from, uh, page. You said, do you think anyone can be redeemed? Even if they have
04:01:31.620
a high body count, women and men should be equal always, but that doesn't mean things should be
04:01:38.400
made easier. Yeah. Like I just, I don't think that like, like if something's hard, even for a man to
04:01:43.720
do, it should, it's going to be extra hard for a woman. You don't make it less hard just cause she's
04:01:47.720
a woman. Okay. Um, I, I think I see what you're saying there. Uh, but then you think anyone can
04:01:55.000
be redeemed even if they have a high body count? I do. I think if they have a high body count and
04:02:00.060
then they're actively trying and they're actively actively living a life where they're not sleeping
04:02:04.580
around and they're in a committed relationship and their track record is good, then yeah, that
04:02:09.420
sounds like they are redeemed. Okay. I have a thought on that, but I need to, I mean, I actually
04:02:17.800
I have to wait and make my argument on this. Uh, I need the full panel. I need the full table here.
04:02:23.060
Uh, okay. Hold on. Let me check if we have, no, we're good. Uh, I'll get into some show notes then.
04:02:31.200
So going to, actually I want to do a fun segment, I guess, cause it was kind of heated at the beginning.
04:02:37.560
Would it, um, is it a deal breaker if a guy has softer hands than you?
04:02:45.320
I have to say yes as a mechanic. Like if a guy has soft hands, is it softer than yours even?
04:02:54.620
Is it a, is it kind of a turnoff? Is it, you know? A little bit. Okay. Not a deal breaker though.
04:03:01.860
My husband's a construction worker, so like his hands haven't been soft in eight years.
04:03:05.480
I like it when a guy comes back with like dirty hands from like working. I don't know why.
04:03:11.000
But mine are dirty too. Because I don't know if I, genetically, if there's something wrong
04:03:15.620
with me or whatever, but I have, by the way, I'm 36. I'm 36. I have really like almost freakishly
04:03:25.420
soft hands. Now I want to touch it. This isn't like, this isn't some like, uh, you get clammy
04:03:34.480
hands. That could be it. Uh, maybe sometimes, but what you're talking like natural moisturization.
04:03:40.660
You just use a lot of lotion. No, I don't, I don't even use lotion. I don't use lotion.
04:03:45.120
None of that shit. But, uh, what was that shit? What was I saying? And the air's dry
04:03:50.160
out here. So that's weird. No, it's not. Oh, it's not. Oh, it's not. Oh, okay. Sorry.
04:03:54.760
Oh yeah. Oh, this isn't some, this is not a ploy to like get you guys to touch my hand.
04:03:59.680
I'm like, I'll do it. Just as a fun segment, this is like, you're going to come around and
04:04:07.260
let us touch them. Okay. Oh, they're very soft. His hands are so soft. He has like little
04:04:13.880
baby girl hands. Are they smaller than mine? I have a two-year-old. Let me feel it. Oh
04:04:17.960
gosh. Here. Does anybody, I have a two-year-old. Let me feel it. Wow. Very impressive. Can I
04:04:23.420
get some, uh, hand sanitizer? Can I get some hand sanitizer? She wants to feel. If they
04:04:29.260
were warm, they would feel like a baby's. Yeah. They're soft. No, but the top too. They're
04:04:35.580
pretty soft. His hands are like a soft. It's not like very soft. Very smooth. Okay. I need
04:04:41.040
to wash my hands. I gotta wash my hands now. Oh my gosh. So is it a deal breaker though? If
04:04:47.160
a guy has soft hands like that, like podcaster Brian hands? Well, has he ever mowed a
04:04:53.400
lawn? No. It wasn't that creepy. Can you fix things, Brian? No. Yeah. It's, it's about
04:04:59.020
the grip. Just tech things. He's not out there like changing an oil. I don't, yeah, I don't
04:05:06.820
think I could see that for Brian. Yeah, no. But like, so say it was a guy that you were
04:05:11.080
interested in, interested in. Is that like a deal breaker? His hands are soft. I've never
04:05:15.760
dated a guy with really soft hands, but I would. I mean, it's not a deal breaker. Unless
04:05:20.480
he shakes your hand like a dead fish, then it's not a problem. Oh yeah. That's like
04:05:24.580
the worst thing ever. Do you guys prefer it when a guy gives you like a strong, grippy
04:05:29.440
handshake or like when he like shakes your hand like a little princess? I think firm, but
04:05:32.100
not. I like it when they're like soft. Like, like lose your hand. Like, like that. I don't
04:05:40.100
know. I've always seen more of a firm handshake as a sign of respect. Like that's always what
04:05:44.120
my grandpa taught me. And like, I shook a pastor's hand. It was my grandpa's pastor
04:05:49.480
and it was literally like a dead fish. And I was like, yeah, that's the worst. I felt
04:05:53.720
like disrespected. Wait, question for the women here who are wearing glasses. Are they
04:06:00.580
all prescription? Yes. Prescription? Yes. So you guys would be blind without them? No,
04:06:05.220
I should get mine. There's a whole row. No, it's okay. Very. I'm wearing contacts. Blurry
04:06:09.240
for sure. Yeah. I don't know. You know, uh, what was I saying? You're soft. I've had
04:06:14.600
like a girl be like, Whoa, your hands are really soft. And I'm like, I don't know if that's
04:06:19.200
a good thing or a bad thing. I think like a lot of no-gos, like if you found out after
04:06:23.340
you started dating them, like you would just let it go, you know? Well, she asked, can
04:06:27.540
you mow a lawn? Yeah. Has Brian ever mowed a lawn? Like, you know, it's a fair question.
04:06:34.260
I mow the lawn. I mow the lawn. Could you change your car's oil?
04:06:39.240
Could I change my car's? I would bet on this. No, no. Honestly, I don't know. It's not that
04:06:43.600
hard. I'm sure I can figure it out, but I just, I can figure it out. I just go. Probably
04:06:49.100
be bad. I can help you. I can show you. I can help him. Well, depending on what kind
04:06:52.620
of car. Look, this, I always get flack for some of this stuff. And some people are like,
04:06:57.740
look, obviously, you know, life skills, whatever. It's like, look, humans have become like specialized
04:07:02.900
and like, we have our special specialties, you know? Uh, I, I, you know, okay. I'm just
04:07:09.440
coping, I guess. Have you seen the latest South Park episode? It's literally about this. It's
04:07:13.520
hilarious. So instead of like, there being, um, people like, um, like Latino and Hispanic
04:07:18.840
people wanting jobs at Home Depot, it's actually all these white men who went to college looking
04:07:23.040
for people to help fix their house because all the handyman are so rich now because nobody
04:07:28.040
can do it. Nice. Yep. Good times. Good times. Um, I'm trying to remember what, anyways, I don't
04:07:36.860
know. I don't know if it's a good thing. I don't know if it's, I don't know if it's a bad
04:07:40.200
thing, but it's not a deal breaker. You were talking about a girl who something because of
04:07:43.660
your self-task. Oh yeah. Girls have like mentioned it. I mean, it hasn't been an issue. Like, they're
04:07:47.540
not like, ugh. They're not like, ugh. They probably like it if you touched them with those soft
04:07:54.180
hands. Yep. If I saw, if I met a guy with soft hands like that, I'd be like, I'm going
04:08:00.520
to change that. I'm going to put you to work. Yes, exactly. Rough hands tell character. That's
04:08:06.120
what she said. But I used to, I don't know. So I like, I used to, I used to have. Oh, we
04:08:11.460
took a while. Uh, where were we? Uh, there's like, I think there's glue that you can get to
04:08:18.000
make your hands rough. Nah, I'm not going to like fake it. You can't fake that shit. You got
04:08:23.000
just, you know, whatever. Pick up a shovel. Yeah, something like that. It'll lift weights.
04:08:28.620
Yeah. Uh, so, uh, yes, the, uh, passion not matter related to your disagreement. Women
04:08:35.340
can be redeemed. Um, it seems past should not matter. A quote I really like is like every
04:08:41.840
saint has a past. Every sinner has a future. As long as you're growing and trying to be
04:08:45.580
better. I do like that. I do. Especially. I wish it was mine. So I guess, um, going around
04:08:50.700
the table on that, um, body count should matter, shouldn't matter, whatever it is. Uh, what's
04:08:56.200
your body count? Uh, I'm not saying that. Give us a range. Throw us a range. Who's going
04:09:01.120
to be a good sport? Really quick. Who's going to be a good sport? Good sport? Mine's probably
04:09:04.560
higher than yours. Good sport? Less than five. Twelve. Twelve? Uh, one of them was not consensual.
04:09:13.760
That doesn't count. Doesn't count. Okay. So one. Okay. Not saying. Range? I just said mine.
04:09:19.700
So you can do, uh, have, did you, have you lost track? Is that it? No, I've never lost
04:09:24.880
track. Have you forgotten? Not forgotten. Didn't keep track? No, just not saying. He's
04:09:31.160
never going to let it go. I've seen this before. I mean, I literally move on within like 20
04:09:38.060
seconds, but, um, do you want to do a range? Like it's between this and this instead of like
04:09:44.880
an exact number. I'd rather not. 50? Definitely never. Go ahead. One. One. Okay. To the husband.
04:09:55.440
I also choose not to say. Sorry, Brian. Yeah, what? I just said mine. Can you do a range? Can
04:10:01.460
you give us a range? No, I'm sorry. Oh my. Range? No range? No range. Did you lose track? No.
04:10:07.220
35. Never had a boyfriend. Hold on. Let me do something. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Oh my gosh.
04:10:18.260
Never had 35. Analyzing. Never had a relationship longer than a couple months. Have you, wait,
04:10:24.600
have you even had a boyfriend? I mean, yeah, but I was saying that I, I wouldn't like say
04:10:30.420
that those are successful relationships. Well, you said they were like a couple months. I mean,
04:10:33.820
it's like, we're not only counting successful. You haven't had a long-term relationship. I
04:10:38.820
haven't had like a long lasting good relationship. You haven't had a relationship last longer
04:10:43.400
than six months. I don't like, yeah, I would say. Judgy at all, but do you think maybe if
04:10:47.900
you held out a little longer, that maybe? Well, she's not revealing the body. No. Okay.
04:10:52.720
Well, if all the math was still on. Yeah. No, I mean, there's been different scenarios where
04:10:59.920
like maybe if I did stick around, but then it, it just didn't turn out so well. So. Okay. Okay.
04:11:07.800
Um, is it less than 20? I'm not going to say Brian. Okay. So it's more than 20. Got it.
04:11:13.740
What about you? Zero. What about you? One. Okay. Felicity. It's two. All right. Uh, that's cool.
04:11:23.060
You get the back question. Like how old were you? That's the real number. Oh, lost virginity.
04:11:27.300
Okay. That's not true though. That multiply by three. Like that's not true. Well, thank
04:11:33.920
you for sharing that. Actually, that was the quickest answer she gave. So we should believe
04:11:37.420
it. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We can do that. It was the highest one. Thank you. Appreciate
04:11:42.640
your input. So 17. 15, 16. Not applicable. 15, 16, 22. What are we? Age, you lost your
04:11:57.080
virginity. Oh, 16. Um, I was 18. I think I was almost 21 because I thought I would be
04:12:05.480
waiting till marriage. Okay. 15. There it is. Good, good shit. Good shit. I'm scared.
04:12:14.260
I have a teenage daughter. Where can I lock her up? You can't. You just gotta let her live
04:12:18.800
her life. No, you can definitely, you know, make your house like a prison. Yeah. Sounds
04:12:26.180
good. How old's your daughter? 12 or something? Yeah. Oh shit. Yeah. Be careful. Public
04:12:30.360
schools. Yikes. The bus. I learned everything on the bus. For sure. Send her to an all girl
04:12:36.480
school. Oh, I would love one. I need that. I think actually girls would be smarter and even
04:12:42.120
boys would be smarter if we still had. They still find their ways though. They still
04:12:45.840
find their way. Yep. Especially with social media too. Oh yeah. That's why my daughter
04:12:51.340
doesn't have a smartphone. Oh, that's good. And I'm the crazy parent because I'm the only
04:12:55.100
one. Good for you. Trying to protect her. You're the good parent. I don't Snapchat for
04:12:59.900
the first time ever. And I was like, my children will never have this. No. Yeah. I think
04:13:04.360
if you're just open with her and you're not like too restrictive, you let her know the reasons
04:13:07.680
why. Like you lay it down like because of like STDs, because of this, because of pregnancy,
04:13:12.180
like let her know those things. Make her scared. That you're trying to protect her from.
04:13:17.460
I hate that people are like, don't make them scared. Like tell him like adults, they're not
04:13:22.120
freaking adults. Scared the hell out of them. Yeah. All right. Let's see. We have a couple
04:13:27.760
more things from the questionnaire, although most of you actually haven't, didn't really circle
04:13:32.520
much on the questionnaire there. So we are going to deal. What's that? We are like,
04:13:37.400
agreeing to Masvidu. Like we're too. Well, we'll get, we'll get to that, but, uh, I'm sure
04:13:44.360
we'll have more disagreements. Uh, so let's do this. Uh, women are the primary victims of
04:13:50.480
war, not men. Victoria, you circled that one. Just want to confirm you do agree with that.
04:13:56.320
Uh, yeah, I, I think that, you know, women do suffer the aftermath of war. More so than
04:14:02.500
women. Um, yes, it's worse. Just be left here. If you die, you will just die there,
04:14:10.680
but you will leave everybody to take care of your family and to miss you. But still,
04:14:15.700
I think primarily the guy is the one who sacrifices his life. Yeah. What about all the men who come
04:14:22.100
back with PTSD? It's very admirable though for men to go out and no, actually no, that is a very
04:14:27.120
good point. The veterans, I have the most respect for them, especially because my father himself,
04:14:31.540
he was in the military, uh, Marines. So, um, I would actually like to change my answer on that.
04:14:37.340
I do, I do think that men suffer a lot from war. Do they suffer more than women? Yes.
04:14:43.840
Oh, okay. Well, I mean, you've already changed your opinion there. So, I mean,
04:14:48.240
not much pushback I can give. Um, we have some chats coming through.
04:14:53.860
Adzils donated $200. Would you rather listen to Michael Jackson in the woods with a man or bear?
04:15:00.720
Brian can do the moonwalk so he would take his chances. Hashtag free Felicity. Hashtag free Nick.
04:15:07.420
Hashtag Michael is king. Yo, Adzils. Thank you for the TTS man. Appreciate it.
04:15:11.860
Um, um, I would rather listen to, yeah, I'd rather listen to MJ with a man for sure. Um,
04:15:27.560
it's like, uh, like what, what is, is Michael Jackson, you know, like the snake charmers with
04:15:33.560
the flutes, like you put on some MJ and the bears, just like Yogi bear, just fucking dancing,
04:15:39.060
like fucking crip walking with you while you're, you know, fucking listening to MJ or some shit.
04:15:45.920
Oh my God. You know, it lulls them to sleep. Well, like the, yeah, yeah. What's snake charmers or
04:15:52.820
what's the term for? Like the flute players? Or the little piper. The, the, the, what,
04:16:00.760
there's like a term for a beast and you, you, uh, pacify them through music, but there's a term for
04:16:12.400
it. Does anybody know what the term is chat? I don't think the girls are going to help me. So
04:16:17.760
chat, I totally zoned out. Passive, a term for pacifying a beast with music. What is the term?
04:16:26.540
What whisper? No, that's not it. It's not whisper to tame. Sue the savage beast. I don't know.
04:16:37.340
Whatever. I don't know. Thank you for that. Adzils. Appreciate it. Is Adzils the Michael Jackson
04:16:44.120
guy or is that somebody else? It's Adzils. He's the MJ guy. What MJ guy? Every episode he invokes
04:16:53.640
Michael Jackson multiple for some reason. He wants to see the moonwalk and you haven't
04:16:57.900
done it for him. I should do that. I guess send another TTS for that one. Um, I, I pre-charged
04:17:11.120
you, I guess. Techno, techno trooper. If the economy can furlough, wait, who's that guy from
04:17:16.900
way back who always brought up herpes? What was that guy's name? Do you remember that guy's
04:17:21.420
name, Nick? Jay Butler, right? He always, every TTS was about herpes. You're new. You're
04:17:28.340
a, so Adzils, you're the new Jay Butler. If the economy can furlough a million people overnight,
04:17:36.200
I'll pull it back up. What makes you believe any partner will just provide without you contributing
04:17:42.420
equal strength? Okay. We'll just provide. It's like not even a question. What does that
04:17:56.840
mean? When you say equal strength though, what are the equal strength? So like women
04:18:01.660
relationship, equal strength. What are you talking about? Yeah. Like, are we supposed to be buff?
04:18:06.260
Like what? I think he means like he wants the woman to do the cooking, cleaning, taking
04:18:13.160
care of children while the man is working, making the money. I don't know. I think that's
04:18:18.220
what that's, I think that's what that meant. It's my interpretation. Yeah. I don't know.
04:18:22.640
I'm not sure. Honestly, I wish I could read all of these. Clarify techno trooper. I need my glasses.
04:18:28.900
Clarify techno trooper. Well, I'm saying it verbally. So I guess you can just listen with your
04:18:33.340
ear balls. You? I'm just kidding. That was so funny. Good one. Okay. Good job. Proud of
04:18:42.080
you. I don't know. Maybe I want to go. Well, what were we talking about earlier about the
04:18:49.020
humor or whatever? Anyways. Yeah. Why would you bring that up again? Cause he doesn't, he's
04:18:55.300
not funny. He doesn't want us to like funny guys. Sorry. Oh, see, that was funny. It actually
04:19:06.160
like just wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't funny. Also not to toot my own horn, but I think I'm
04:19:16.000
pretty funny. You think you're funny? Yeah. I'm definitely funny. I'm definitely funny. I see.
04:19:19.280
Oh, okay. Miss monotone over here who hasn't cracked. Oh, I've, I, I'm, you haven't cracked
04:19:25.100
one joke the entire fucking night. I'm nervous. Oh my God. Okay. Great. You're nervous.
04:19:29.540
You're nervous in a relationship and you're not going to fucking ever crack a joke until
04:19:33.220
after you've been dating a guy. Oh, he's got to wait for your humor for six months. Okay.
04:19:42.020
Abzil's donated $200. Butler is a legend. He will be back. Hopefully Nick, can we get
04:19:51.940
a tee hee? Oh, a tee hee now? That was like half. That was like, I gave him fucking half
04:20:06.340
right there. Oh my goodness. Yeah. True. All right. Uh, let's see if there's anything else
04:20:13.120
in the questionnaire here. That's intriguing to me. Yes, they can. Yes, they can. Uh, men
04:20:23.540
are more privileged in society than when, uh, than women says page. Why is that? Um, I guess
04:20:31.120
I don't know from what I've been through, like men sometimes don't listen to women, I
04:20:36.140
think until the women like make their point really clear or like have to speak up and be
04:20:40.860
like, Hey, listen to me. You know, I think men just overall, you know, people see a man
04:20:45.680
talking and they, they listen compared to a woman. Is that like a overarching privilege in
04:20:54.380
totality? No. Well also too, I just, you know, men are respected more. Men are treated better
04:21:01.360
overall. Are they? Well, I think they were. I think more is expected out of them. And now they
04:21:07.080
are seen to like for a man, it is expected that he has all of these things. He is expected. He has
04:21:13.260
a good job. He's patient. He's hardworking. He's fit. So yeah. So it's changed. Yeah. I've been out
04:21:19.000
of the dating scene. Like we met before Tinder even existed. So, you know, okay. So I, I'm
04:21:24.820
open to that. Yeah. But I can, I can definitely see where you're coming from with that. It's
04:21:31.480
very apparent. Yeah. And like, I'm already short, so they're already looking down on me
04:21:35.180
and I'm like, hello, listen to me, you know? I mean, if I had pink hair too, though, I feel
04:21:40.940
like I would be less respected. What? This is my superhero hair. That's what my kids call
04:21:45.260
it. Look, and you seem more conservative and kind of reasonable.
04:21:49.540
But I think people will make, they do. And I've got tattoos. Absolutely. People read
04:21:54.000
a, judge a book by its cover. They do. Absolutely do. No offense. I mean, I, I saw your pre-show
04:21:59.960
notes. Um, you know, you have a very successful relationship. Well, you're married and you have
04:22:07.060
kids. I mean, you married, you were virgins. I mean, we absolutely love, are in love. I did
04:22:12.080
have a, you wrote a couple of things in your pre-show notes where I did want to, I did want
04:22:16.500
to nitpick a little bit, but, um, I guess you're kind of conservative, right? Like politically
04:22:22.980
not so much. Oh, are you more liberal? Uh, I used to be a registered Democrat until recently.
04:22:27.880
Oh, okay. Now what are you? I am an independent. Okay. Gotcha. Okay. But overall, you don't
04:22:36.600
seem like you're a crazy woke SJW feminist lady. No, I just used to be very like, I am
04:22:44.040
woman, hear me roar. And then I, I learned over time that that kind of sucks.
04:22:47.860
And Donnie is running for governor. Good for you.
04:22:51.460
He's a liberal. Um, he's a lot of liberals like him.
04:22:54.720
Yeah, just, I guess they did. Um, they were, she was explaining who Mom Donnie was. He's
04:22:59.520
a socialist in New York who's running. I don't currently live in the city. Um, but I am
04:23:03.740
originally from the city. But, uh, besides like you, you assert that men are more respected
04:23:09.120
than women, men have more privilege than women. Is it, uh, aside from like your perception
04:23:15.480
that men receive more respect, is there anything else when it comes to privilege?
04:23:20.980
I think men are just taken more seriously, like in my circle, because a lot of the men
04:23:24.560
are married and, you know, in the church circle too, like a lot of times women want to speak
04:23:33.800
I am non-denominational. Like I said, like, like right now, that's, this is actually a theological
04:23:43.220
I'm not saying to be pastors or priests, but like even just like in the circle, like
04:23:47.120
after service or like even just out in the community, like where I live now, it's pretty
04:23:51.220
rural. So like, it's like men just don't take women seriously. It could be the pink
04:23:56.840
Well, I mean, look, from a religious perspective and look, I, I'm not a expert in theology, but
04:24:02.820
my understanding is there's biblical scripture. Women are to be quiet in church.
04:24:08.000
So from a, if you're in a biblical marriage and a biblical relationship, yeah, you're not
04:24:19.080
I used to be, like I said, a she woman hear me roar. And I have, I recently was disabled
04:24:23.420
and I was diagnosed with anglosingspondylitis. It's been really devastating. And it actually
04:24:27.720
put me into this female role for the first time in my life. And I actually am like, wow,
04:24:32.280
kind of almost thankful for getting sick. I know that sounds awful, but like, I'm like, wow,
04:24:36.920
like I'm actually getting to be a girl for once, you know, and I am learning how it is
04:24:43.280
Where before I used to always, I used to always, you know, it's probably like, I would fight.
04:24:47.160
I was angsty and I'd be like, why aren't you talking to me? You know?
04:24:54.900
I don't know if it's actually the case that women are less respected in society.
04:25:01.100
Actually, maybe it's when women are not like, I don't want to say in their place, but like
04:25:04.900
not doing womanly roles, then maybe they're less respected, you know? So that might be why
04:25:10.580
I mean, what I see out there, I believe that society is set up in a gynocentric way. So society
04:25:18.880
is not, if we're talking about patriarchy, we're getting into these sort of feminist
04:25:23.220
descriptors or whatever. I don't think society is set up in a patriarchy, and I guess how this
04:25:32.120
would be described as society was built by men for the benefit and comfort and privilege
04:25:37.960
of men. I think society, I agree with the first part. Society was built by men for the benefit
04:25:44.960
of women. All the modern comforts, like I say this frequently on the show, if men could
04:25:51.820
fuck women in a cardboard box, we would. But, you know, that's not the case, really.
04:26:00.340
Women want the existence of a certain comfortable material reality. And so everything that men
04:26:10.620
do, I honestly think, on a micro and macro level, is for women. Society has been set up
04:26:19.200
to make things comfortable for women. And men have always been, like if you look at even
04:26:25.940
going back to, you know, ancient history, that this idea would be, like men would be sort
04:26:34.540
of this defensive barrier to the external threats of like nature or other tribes. And men, women were
04:26:42.500
kept in the interior and kept safe. And so men would go out and fight against nature, fight against
04:26:50.960
other tribes, fight against other men, keep the women in the interior, keep them safe. And if we're
04:26:56.680
looking at, and you know, this could be a tribe of 300 people. When I'm talking interior, it could be
04:27:00.980
a small area of, you know, a couple square miles, even less. It could be a small little area.
04:27:11.600
I will admit, I definitely have a bias, and you're probably going to come at me for saying
04:27:14.340
this, but like I was raised by a single mother for nine years. And, you know, she had to be strong,
04:27:18.320
and she was so strong. And I admired that in her. So I felt like I had to be like that,
04:27:22.940
you know, when I don't need to be like that. Because thankfully, I did meet the right person,
04:27:28.180
and things are going really well. So yeah. But you know, this idea that women are taken less
04:27:33.440
seriously, or they're less respected, there's a couple things there. I think, I actually think
04:27:39.520
so women, so you know, we'll look at both halves of the population, men and women. I think women
04:27:46.380
have a really strong in-group bias for women. So like, there's the sisterhood, there's like women
04:27:53.460
have, they have an in-group bias for themselves, for other women. Men don't have that related to
04:28:03.760
men. So men don't have an in-group bias. Like if you're analyzing the biases in general, men have
04:28:12.300
a slight out-group bias for women. And the statistics and studies play this out. But yeah, so men will have
04:28:22.140
slight out-group bias, women have slight or strong in-group bias. So this is why actually, in some
04:28:29.940
ways, women are much, seem to be actually better when it comes to organizing amongst themselves for
04:28:37.120
female causes. Whereas men don't have like nearly as strong of any sort of foundational base for like
04:28:44.120
male advocacy. Like obviously, female advocacy feminism is dominant culturally, whereas like
04:28:51.480
men's advocacy is completely on the fringe and completely just completely oppressed by
04:28:57.780
feminism. And too, if men try to stand up for themselves, then it's like, oh no, you're
04:29:01.480
misogynistic. But is it here? They like to say that. At least in Finland, the men will get the race in
04:29:08.780
their workplaces because the guys, when you go to a man and you ask him like, who's going to get the
04:29:15.340
race? There's always a guy saying like, oh, Ben is a good guy. Give it to him. But if you go and talk
04:29:21.820
to a woman, it's always they're putting each other down. It's not like, oh, there is a good girl.
04:29:29.620
They don't build the woman up in the workplace.
04:29:30.360
Yeah. It's always going to be like, oh, not her.
04:29:35.360
True. I mean, I think it can go both ways in the workplace. Google actually just I'm trying to
04:29:42.660
recall the name of the lawsuit. A man filed a lawsuit against Google because he had an
04:29:51.780
anti-discrimination lawsuit because apparently he ended up having a female boss and his the
04:30:00.960
origination of his team was I think it's Meyer versus Google or something. She started like
04:30:08.300
firing or getting rid of all the male team leads and just started hiring women. And he the lawsuit's
04:30:14.760
super robust. There's plenty. There's actually plenty of evidence that there's anti-male
04:30:19.560
discrimination, at least in his team at Google. Google did this. That's more recent lawsuit.
04:30:25.960
There was one from a couple of years ago where Google did like some self analysis of they
04:30:32.080
were trying to investigate, oh, well, are we is there a wage gap here? They actually found
04:30:36.660
that they were overpaying the women at Google, major corporation. So I don't know this, this
04:30:43.940
idea that men get promoted, they're more likely to be promoted. I don't know if it's even true.
04:30:49.460
Other men will always put other men up, but women will put each other down.
04:30:57.820
Uh, I don't know if that's true. Do you think the Google thing is like a one time,
04:31:03.060
like a one instance thing? Or do you think it's going to be more prevalent or it's going to come
04:31:06.180
out more? I think, I think a lot of major corporations, feminism has infiltrated. They have,
04:31:13.580
some of them have walked some of this back, but all the DEI bullshit, like all these companies,
04:31:19.360
all the major corporations had DEI diversity, equity, inclusion, or whatever. There are massive,
04:31:25.820
massive hiring incentives. Let's, let's bring in women. Let's, let's put, let's do affirmative
04:31:32.500
action to put in more, get diversity hires, put in women. And actually it's funny, all this DEI
04:31:38.500
shit. It was mostly for white women. It was, it wasn't like brown men. It wasn't brown women. It
04:31:44.820
was for fucking white women. I think that is a great example of why men should mostly lead because
04:31:51.920
women are, is it, what's the word when you're, you plan things to get the worst outcome. You're
04:31:59.100
like sneaky. You mean vindictive? Yeah. Oh, there we go. That's what's the word. But men are really
04:32:06.360
straightforward, straightforward with everything. They say mostly what they think. Yeah. I'll say
04:32:12.080
my best friend in the whole wide world is a male and I plan on keeping it that way. So, and it's not
04:32:17.340
my husband, my husband, he's my best friend too, but. I mean, I look, there's, I'll do the, I'll do
04:32:23.000
the sort of charitable thing here and say that like men definitely play office politics too. But I, you
04:32:31.640
know, I think there are obviously some differences between how men and women communicate. I think
04:32:36.140
women, not all women, women can definitely do this sort of like, uh, vendetta shit. Like
04:32:44.960
I think men oftentimes tend to be less likely to hold grudges. Whereas like, if you slide
04:32:51.300
a woman, that shit's for life, son, that's some beef. It's forever.
04:32:57.020
What? I thought always that it's the other way around. I thought that men will like, they
04:33:00.920
won't tell it to you, but if somebody does something bad to you, you will freaking remember
04:33:05.780
it to your grave. I mean, it, obviously there's a lot of variants, but I think women will
04:33:10.740
resort. They will use more energy to put you down and do shit to you. If you do something
04:33:17.100
bad. Why? I think, and this is, I think there's actually studies to back this up. Women are more
04:33:22.540
likely to engage in reputation destruction. So women will do gossip. Women will do slander.
04:33:28.280
Women will like try to, you know, verbally ruin you. They'll try to verbally throw you
04:33:33.520
under the bus. Again, I'm not saying all women do this, but it's, it's a more common tactic
04:33:38.320
that women will resort to. They'll try to ruin it. Not just, they'll try to ruin another woman's
04:33:44.100
reputation. They'll try to ruin a man's reputation. They'll gossip more common among women. Men
04:33:50.440
can do it too, I guess. But, but just to finish off this point, you're saying that women aren't
04:33:55.880
respected, right? They're not taking it seriously. I don't know. Like, I really not sure if that's
04:34:00.700
the case. I think that at least in terms of the treatment that women direct towards men,
04:34:06.860
I think at no other point in human history, um, have women enjoyed so much freedom, so much rights,
04:34:14.300
so much privilege, so much comfort. Uh, we technologically, we really do live at, uh,
04:34:22.660
the best time, you know, best healthcare, best, I was going to say best food, but some people might,
04:34:28.780
uh, the best food option. Anyways, you have, you can have, if you want, you can go on DoorDash
04:34:37.720
and every order, every single kind of different culinary genre and have it all delivered to you
04:34:44.560
in 10 minutes. I mean, we live in, uh, quite the time, but all of those things I listed, you know,
04:34:52.100
women having the most rights, the most comfort, most free, more freedom than any other point of
04:34:56.700
human history, uh, much of which, or almost all of which I would say is a direct result of male
04:35:04.800
benevolence, ingenuity, labor, and genius. Um, but it, and simultaneously though, at no other point
04:35:15.200
in human history have women had so much hate, spite, contempt, and disrespect and ungratefulness
04:35:24.840
towards men as today. So it's this, it's, it's, it's odd to me though, but it's like, again,
04:35:33.380
women have more freedoms, more rights, more privileges, more comfort than at any other time
04:35:38.400
in human history. But at no other time in human history have women, women hate men more than they've
04:35:44.540
ever hated men. Women are ungrateful. They're disrespectful. Uh, and it's kind of this interesting
04:35:51.700
dichotomy. It's because of the rise of feminism and the lack of God in people. And I was so pleasantly
04:35:58.700
surprised that all of you are Christians. I don't know if every single one of you, but
04:36:02.140
I'm absolutely shocked. I mean, she is, I'm not exactly religious. She is, you are a Christian,
04:36:08.560
you're a Christian. I mean, amazing, amazing. Oh my gosh. A lot of faith in this room and
04:36:13.380
I love it, but I did want to argue with somebody. So I'm a little disappointed. I'll argue then
04:36:19.920
I guess, but I guess moving on to the boyfriend. So that's probably the next one. Uh, I guess,
04:36:26.640
uh, I guess, uh, let's talk about politics. Yeah. I think there was one more here from the
04:36:34.120
questionnaire. Then I'll get into it. I know you guys had some disagreements. We'll dive
04:36:37.120
into those. Uh, the final thing from the questionnaire here was wrong for high body count men to prefer
04:36:44.220
to date low body count virgin women. That was from you. Um, Oh, uh, it is from Victoria. Actually,
04:36:51.660
I did want to finish off. You said women can be redeemed, right? Even if they've been men can too.
04:36:56.640
Yeah. So, I mean, I'll know, I'll know where we disagree or agree on this. My position is,
04:37:02.680
yeah. I mean, are you looking at it from a religious perspective? Um, no, I don't think you have to be
04:37:07.380
born again or saved, but I think like, let's say you really got around when you were younger,
04:37:12.440
but it's been 10 years and you haven't dated, you haven't slept around. Like that's a really
04:37:16.960
big change. You don't just go backwards. Yeah. So, I mean, you, you've obviously, I assume put in
04:37:23.720
some work there. Uh, you've changed your behavior. However, even if it's been 10 years, I don't think
04:37:30.600
a man is then obligated. Oh, absolutely not. No. I think a man could, could still be within his right
04:37:38.500
to say, Ooh, okay. Between the age of 18 and 20, you done fucked 50 guys, but you've been shit.
04:37:45.300
You've been celibate for 10 years. I think a guy is still within his right. I don't think anybody has
04:37:50.400
to date anybody for any reason, but, but I think it's a, it would, I think certain preferences can
04:37:56.080
be realistic, unrealistic. My position would be, you might say, well, look, she's been celibate for 10
04:38:01.720
years. She, I think it's still realistic as a guy. If a woman fucked 50 dudes in her freshman,
04:38:10.640
first freshman year of college, he can still be like, nah, no. Yeah. Not. Why do you want to know?
04:38:18.200
What do you mean? I think it's important to know. Like, like if it comes out later in the
04:38:22.480
relationship, like I think I said earlier, it's going to be bad. And you have a right to know that
04:38:26.320
the person was, I mean, you're like, yeah, there were promiscuous and a lot comes with that.
04:38:31.460
Especially when you're waiting till marriage, I understand it. But on the other hand,
04:38:39.460
What denominate? What's, do you go to church or?
04:38:47.980
I actually, I was a real child because everybody else wanted to be princesses and pop stars.
04:38:54.580
I wanted to be a playmate and I wanted to be Xenon.
04:38:57.980
But let me just put, you know, playboy. I don't know.
04:39:01.780
I don't see nudity as, as like, but porn is a different thing. Playboy wasn't that before.
04:39:08.500
Hold on. Playboy has been a nude, nude. Hold on.
04:39:12.020
It's, it's been a nude magazine for a long time. It's still like a nude pornographic entity.
04:39:18.540
I don't like the pornographic facts about it, but when you go.
04:39:27.200
Have you watched all the documentaries that have come out since he died?
04:39:30.980
Christians cannot be in, like, in line with a pornographic commercial entity.
04:39:42.600
You've had OnlyFans girls on here that said they were Christians.
04:39:55.940
But still, I think it's more of the idea because when I used to look at Playboy girls and think they were cool, it was, I was so young.
04:40:04.540
It wasn't, like, because of the fact they were doing adult things.
04:40:09.760
It was more of, like, I wanted to be Pamela Anderson.
04:40:20.480
You said you wanted to be fucking Pamela Anderson.
04:40:26.940
And it's actually, when you think about it as an adult, it's really sad.
04:40:35.180
And she was just a blue-eyed girl who was really young, got the fame and everything.
04:40:41.180
So she goes and dates a man who is, by the way, well-known, notorious for being a Playboy.
04:40:49.620
Oh, she fell in love with a guy who was blasted in tattoos and was in a heavy metal.
04:40:56.100
These guys were definitely, they were definitely known for getting around.
04:41:00.160
That's also the reason why I think men should lead.
04:41:02.520
Because women, we have emotions and we go by them.
04:41:05.940
Pamela Anderson was not naive to the fact that Tommy, oh my, come on.
04:41:12.400
Let's say I can put myself into her shoes and feel empathy towards her and what she was going through.
04:41:24.640
About the empathy or about Pamela Anderson or about Playboy?
04:41:30.120
No, I'm just, I look, I guess my confusion here is Christian, but like repping Playboy.
04:41:36.520
Like it'd be like, I'm a Christian, but check out my Koran.
04:41:43.740
I have vintage Playboy magazines and I'm a Christian.
04:41:48.700
Just because I'm holding on to something that isn't...
04:41:51.940
Do you, do you like look at the pornographic content?
04:41:59.460
Some of, it's just, it's fun because it's vintage and I love reading and looking at the comics.
04:42:03.560
What denomination, what denomination Christian are you?
04:42:15.700
Well, it does say like biblically that it'll be obvious that you're a Christian.
04:42:19.360
So sometimes wearing that kind of stuff, it's not so obvious, you know?
04:42:34.400
Look, I'm not, I'm not like a religious theological guy, but I don't know if it's Jesus or like
04:42:40.080
a scripture, doesn't it command you to have righteous judgment?
04:42:50.300
No, like, so if somebody is like an outsider, they're not Christian, you're supposed to have
04:42:53.900
a lot more love and patience with them because they don't know what they're doing.
04:42:59.220
They're not claiming to be something they're not.
04:43:02.060
But when you are a Christian and you see your brother or sister in Christ doing something
04:43:05.720
that they shouldn't be, you are supposed to come with them, come to them lovingly,
04:43:09.280
kindly, and just share what you believe is the truth.
04:43:13.720
Didn't Jesus fucking throw over the table and didn't he have a whip or something?
04:43:27.500
If they refuse to turn away from the sin, then, yeah, you're supposed to come at them.
04:43:33.260
He's done other stuff and he isn't a Christian.
04:43:35.640
Look, I honestly, if a girl wears a Playboy sweater, hoodie, I don't really care.
04:43:41.640
But if you tell me you're a Christian, then I'm kind of like, wait, that's kind of confusing.
04:43:49.740
But on the other hand, no, it doesn't make sense.
04:43:52.160
No, but Playboy is a pornographic commercial entity.
04:43:59.060
But there's a reason why, I'm sorry, but there's a reason why, you know, all Christians, they
04:44:07.000
They say, forgive them, Father, for they don't know.
04:44:13.940
You know, I think we as Christians also need to be striving to be better and closer to God
04:44:23.920
I mean, there's people shooting and killing each other out there.
04:44:26.020
But I think what everyone is just trying to tell you is that it is, the first step is
04:44:31.540
Because if we let ourselves get by with small little things, eventually it's going to grow
04:44:37.080
Am I going to say that, am I saying that you're going to go out and do something really, really
04:44:41.040
But I think it's just more of the accountability in a sense.
04:44:50.240
It is super minor, but it did catch my attention.
04:44:54.720
But I kind of like to think about things in a way, like Jesus said that children come
04:45:00.180
to me because the kingdom of heaven is like them.
04:45:02.400
You show this to a child and they will just see a cute bunny.
04:45:08.160
I would get it if I would go around with a pussy on my shirt, but that's like a different
04:45:13.080
I think I'd have a bigger problem if you bought it, because then you're giving money to that.
04:45:20.240
And so it wouldn't be strictly restricted to the interpretation of what, yeah, I agree.
04:45:27.560
A child probably isn't familiar with the logo of Playboy, but there's other people in the
04:45:34.300
world that aren't children that are going to make an assessment of what you're wearing.
04:45:51.140
A Christian girl who has a Playboy bunny tattoo.
04:45:59.360
A girl who has like a, she has a necklace, but she's a Christian, but she's got a Playboy
04:46:06.120
Even that is a problem, to be honest, like as a Christian.
04:46:08.880
Perhaps, but I'm just focused on the Playboy bunny thing, you know?
04:46:12.020
So you took the one that I can take it off and like get rid of, but the tattoo is not
04:46:17.640
I did a lot of like reading before I got my tattoos because I took it so seriously and
04:46:31.340
To add to what Brian just said, that is why many Western men are seeking traditional,
04:46:36.860
non-feministic women from other countries who are respectful, feminine, and don't have
04:46:44.940
I think we were talking about like finishing up the body count thing.
04:46:49.480
I mean, basically my position is, uh, yeah, they, the women can definitely redeem themselves,
04:46:54.480
but I don't think men, even if they have redeemed themselves, a man can still look at a
04:46:59.540
woman's past, even if she's completely changed from that past and be like, I don't want anything
04:47:08.660
Wait, you're giving me a look like you disagree.
04:47:25.900
I think she can wear, I can think people can wear whatever the hell they want.
04:47:28.560
Um, she doesn't look like a hooker, so I'm fine with it.
04:47:32.480
Um, if she was, I would make a different judgment.
04:47:35.720
The, the bunny sweatshirt, you know, I know it's playboy.
04:47:40.120
I mean, again, I, like, I'm, it's just something I noticed.
04:47:49.720
It is a little bit like, is it in line with Christianity?
04:48:04.420
We're going to get into, uh, let's see if they're, no, I think, uh.
04:48:08.840
You got to nitpick this crew because we're all pretty cool.
04:48:14.180
It's because we waited a little too long for Nick to let us in, so we got to know each other
04:48:18.600
Yeah, we all agreed we were going to be really agreeable with each other and you.
04:48:22.800
But, okay, um, here, we're going to get into some of the pre-show notes here.
04:48:26.720
So, we are going to do, um, actually here, let's just do this.
04:48:34.780
Ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of one to ten.
04:48:53.500
I think six, there's always room for improvement.
04:49:05.460
My husband said on the way here to say solid eight, but I'm going to say five.
04:49:29.880
She's literally a model with, like, campaigns and stuff, though.
04:50:34.820
Do you think everybody should just say I'm a ten?
04:50:38.260
If they're confident within themselves, why not?
04:50:56.060
Do you think it changes like you're in a room with a thousand men?
04:50:59.580
What do you think the average would be if they were rating you?
04:51:02.300
Um, typically I attract from my history, all races, like they, they're going to be trying
04:51:19.660
Even if they're not, they're still going to probably say eight and up, I would assume.
04:51:23.980
But what do you think the average rating would be?
04:51:30.640
Uh, I mean, if you're playing me in a room full of like many different people with different,
04:51:38.920
Like there's some black people, some white people, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
04:51:42.100
Blondes that they like different looks, you know?
04:51:49.360
Like, uh, let's just say it's, I mean, you brought it about, made about race, uh, white
04:52:05.780
I'll just, I would say it's about, yeah, still the same, like eight.
04:52:17.640
Um, they would probably say two similar rating because I'm Brown.
04:52:27.420
Uh, tell me, can you tell me a girl that you think is a 10, like a famous girl out there?
04:52:36.900
Like a white girl, a black girl, and a Asian girl, I guess.
04:52:53.960
Um, Ariana Grande was somewhat before, I don't know what's going on now.
04:53:10.040
I mean, she's always been pretty trim, I think.
04:53:15.180
When she was a teenager, she was a little curvier.
04:53:17.200
Oh yeah, she did lose some of the weight, yeah.
04:53:28.400
Taylor Lautner, but who's that other one right now?
04:53:47.640
Um, weren't you like 10 when that movie came out?
04:54:04.640
These are not, honestly, those are not the most flattering photos, to be honest.
04:54:11.120
Of course, Nick wants to look at those shirtless photos.
04:54:29.460
Okay, so just to be, just so I understand correctly, uh, you, Megan Fox, on par.
04:54:40.160
Um, do you think you're, do you think he, when you say you're a 10, are you, are there
04:54:49.780
Or are you, like, you're at the peak, they're at the peak, you're just as good looking as
04:54:54.480
I would say, yeah, I can, I can stand next to the best looking woman and change my parents
04:55:00.100
makeup, you know, change hair, like alter things.
04:55:05.820
So there's no women in the world that are more beautiful than you.
04:55:11.080
But who's a, who's a woman who's more beautiful than you?
04:55:16.720
So like, yeah, as far as in youth right now, I don't know, 20 year old Beyonce, destiny's
04:55:34.980
Um, but this, you said there, there are some women who are more beautiful than you, from
04:55:58.440
Yeah, but you say she's better looking than you.
04:56:18.100
And I'm trying to think if there's any other questions on, on that.
04:56:31.340
Do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years time?
04:56:38.700
Will you be better looking than you currently look now?
04:56:42.720
Okay, and then, uh, you're 27, were you better looking at 18 or better looking now?
04:56:55.220
And then you're 36, better looking at 26, or better now?
04:57:05.840
Uh, I honestly feel like I'm going to look the same.
04:57:08.340
My mom, she looks the exact same from when she was 18 years old.
04:57:17.360
39, I'll probably be getting a little bit old, some wrinkles, maybe.
04:57:34.220
I was just asking for Nick, because he kind of likes, he likes the older women, you know?
04:57:52.040
Uh, when do you, is there, like, a point, like, 49, 59, 69?
04:58:05.760
But, um, I would say I would start probably looking different.
04:58:32.500
I was better looking at 21, and I won't be better looking in 10 years.
04:58:52.740
Which is unfortunate, but you know what I mean.
04:59:15.840
Um, but you, you, you will be better looking at 45?
04:59:22.780
I say that just because of, um, my awareness now and taking care of myself.
04:59:37.680
Assuming you don't change your weight at all, will you be better looking at 45?
05:00:00.040
We are doing our, our much appreciated segment.
05:01:19.400
That's what he says to be mean when it's really bad.
05:02:51.360
So, I like the other old one that they usually do.
05:03:02.060
So, the question is, would you date the male version of you?
05:03:55.440
Would you, if you were single, would you date that guy?
05:04:01.540
I'm more into blondes and blue eyes and green eyes, but yeah, not bad.
05:05:05.340
Uh, white, and the other one, he was mixed, so he was white and black.
05:05:46.140
I do know my, uh, my grandfather, he, um, migrated from China to Taiwan, so I don't
05:05:53.000
know if that may be, there might be some mixing.
05:05:55.220
Oh, no, I mean, uh, have you dated a guy who's any of those?
05:06:02.880
Or are you, I know some, uh, I've heard from some Asian women, and they say, you know,
05:06:19.480
There's been many times I said I wouldn't date a certain race, and then, actually, both
05:06:24.260
races I said that I wouldn't date, I found myself in, so, um, now I'm like, no, I don't
05:06:30.720
think, uh, and I don't mean that in a racist way.
05:06:33.540
You know, that's kind of, yeah, um, but, um, yeah, no, if, yeah, I don't see myself
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Uh, next one, por favor, or wait, show us, sorry, one last time.
05:06:55.040
You know what, maybe that means I'm meant to be a woman, guys.
05:07:18.840
No, he looks, um, what, what's the, um, they're no longer.
05:07:44.040
By the way, aren't, like, Neanderthals, like, the more Neanderthal DNA you have, aren't
05:07:50.760
I think you're, no, I think you're higher IQ if you have more Neanderthal.
05:08:04.700
They were, like, more caveman and, like, bigger.
05:08:22.180
Apparently, Genghis Khan, that motherfucker's got a lot of DNA all over the place.
05:08:39.660
You don't have a track record of dating white men?
05:09:07.900
My last boyfriend or the last guy I went on a date with?
05:09:18.320
Because, like, you could go on one date with a guy and you're not feeling well.
05:09:21.140
The last person I was dating was a restaurant manager.
05:09:35.980
It's just funny that you're guessing a random fast food restaurant.
05:09:43.080
Hey, those Chick-fil-A managers do well for themselves.
05:09:52.840
So, you had, like, two longer-term boyfriends, right?
05:09:57.400
I mean, not long, but, yeah, so three-and-a-half-year and a five-month, four-and-a-half, five.
05:10:03.900
The three-and-a-half-year boyfriend, just what did he do for work?
05:10:07.320
When I met him, I told you he worked at a car wash.
05:10:13.180
The other long-term one that you had, what did he do for work?
05:10:41.420
Not having a requirement on income is not abnormal.
05:10:44.840
Like, I don't have any friends that have, oh, they need to make this much.
05:10:48.280
I mean, maybe in their head they do, but I've never heard of people with a requirement for that.
05:10:57.500
Well, I don't think it has to be a precise requirement for a precise number.
05:11:00.800
But I think there's a general tendency for women to have a generalized preference for men who are successful.
05:11:14.120
No, but, like, there's so much other success in life.
05:11:17.940
And I think not being addicted to drugs, not being on prescription pills.
05:11:35.320
The question is not asked so much, but I think it's thought about, like, I think if you were to ask your friends the question, they would have a number.
05:11:46.640
The few girlfriends I do have don't have a number.
05:11:50.780
Remember, your 30-year-old girlfriends are fine dating a guy who flips burgers at McDonald's.
05:11:58.740
I don't think that's the dream for most 30-year-olds.
05:12:03.140
Because, look, the reality is I'm not trying to knock guys who work fast food.
05:12:08.140
It's working retail or working a restaurant job.
05:12:17.280
I'm not frowning upon them, but it is the reality, I think.
05:12:21.000
And they would probably be honest about it, too.
05:12:23.140
Most women are not going to be, like, super stoked to date a cashier at McDonald's.
05:12:30.140
That's not a knock on men who are cashiers at McDonald's.
05:12:40.920
I mean, if you're working as a cashier at McDonald's when you're 30, it's, you know.
05:12:45.840
But I have a really good friend who just got married to a man who didn't have a job for nine months.
05:12:55.600
And he got a job, like, a month before they got married.
05:13:02.060
The company I keep is not holding income standards for their partners.
05:13:10.340
Look, I don't think it's wrong for a woman who's in her 30s to, like, have some expectation that...
05:13:18.540
I'm not saying that the guy has to be, like, a millionaire or a billionaire, but that the guy is taking care of himself and has a job.
05:13:28.020
And I don't think it's wrong for a woman to want that.
05:13:30.580
But anyways, we already talked about that a bunch.
05:13:32.320
I want to know what your income standard is for your partner.
05:13:59.320
Look, here's my read on that chick, on Brianna.
05:14:20.980
Has anyone ever noticed how blue Brian's eyes are?
05:15:57.680
Regardless of who he looks like, would you date him?
05:16:24.320
Okay, whoever's doing these, can you guys, like, exorcism this guy to not have a head tilt,
05:16:39.680
Some people, especially young adults, work low-wage jobs despite having college and university degrees.
05:16:48.000
Oh, there's a lot of bachelor degrees working at restaurants.
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Because it's not about, at the end of the day, what you learned.
05:17:02.960
You know, I've talked about it a little bit earlier, not to get too into the subject,
05:17:06.500
but I didn't finish high school because of some financial issues our family was having.
05:17:12.300
But, you know, I've gone through so much farther in life.
05:17:21.600
But I know kids, not to bash on them either, but I know kids in college, they're just learning
05:17:29.100
And so it's really not about the degree at the end, so.
05:18:05.580
He kind of reminds me of Chandler from Mr. Beast.
05:18:08.420
I don't know if you remember, like, the tall guy.
05:19:10.660
There's me shirtless, not shirtless, fucking tank top.
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You have a question for the panel while I just.
05:21:16.440
So, I was 15 years old, and I had all these weird phone calls.
05:21:21.260
And I finally listened to the voicemail, and there's this old lady on the line saying,
05:21:25.480
Hey, doctor, whoever, I just want you to know that my labia is really swollen and red.
05:21:30.840
And she left me all these voicemails saying that.
05:21:34.180
And I was like, Mom, because we were in the car, what's the labia?
05:21:37.320
And she's like, what the hell are you watching?
05:21:39.480
So, she actually had to call this, like, little old lady and be like, Hey, this is my daughter's phone.
05:21:44.000
Please stop calling and find out who your doctor is.
05:21:55.780
Does anybody else have a big labia story they want to share?
05:22:48.560
There's probably been, like, hundreds of women on this show.
05:23:03.060
Well, you're a guy, like, what would you think the ratio is, like...
05:23:28.520
Like, I was, you know, dating or whatever, but there was, like, a two-year, three-year period.
05:23:33.700
I was just like, damn, where are the big pussies at?
05:23:48.520
Honestly, like, I think I need Botox because I have way too expressive of a face.
05:24:00.180
This is going to sound so weird because I was a virgin when I got married, but I've seen
05:24:03.620
a lot of genitalia because I took care of people with, like, disabilities and things
05:24:23.140
So, yeah, it was never, like, attractive, of course.
05:24:28.600
You bring up the big labia topic, and everybody's like, what the fuck?
05:24:32.440
But, like, statistically speaking, there's probably been, like, 500 girls on the show
05:24:53.740
You disagree with Brian when he says a girl should do his laundry the first time she comes
05:25:10.520
You wrote that in the pre-show, like, in the DMs.
05:25:18.440
Um, I don't think a girl should do your laundry on a first date.
05:25:36.980
I freaking did that, but then I called my hobby and was like, first time?
05:25:42.140
Yeah, but actually, after that, he came to Helsinki.
05:25:47.260
It's like 250 kilometers, so what is it in miles?
05:25:53.420
So, I was sick, and he came and took me and my daughter to Dombere to just be together
05:26:01.640
So, he went to work the next morning, and I was like, hmm, what should I do?
05:26:10.660
But I called him, and I was like, this is a red flag, so are you scared of me now?
05:26:22.540
Never in the first two, three months of dating.
05:26:26.640
That's setting the precedent of, like, don't do it, I'll do it.
05:26:32.860
I think it's a red flag that the girl is crazy.
05:26:42.800
Like, walking in and being like, oh, your place is dirty.
05:26:51.400
Like, the other way around, a girl would be, like, freaked out.
05:26:56.120
Well, I mean, if the expectation is there that she'd do it.
05:27:01.300
Why would it be there the first time she's at your house?
05:27:07.240
Someone comes over for the first time, and you look at, and she sees your pile of laundry?
05:27:14.020
Well, first off, I've gotten a lot more than just the laundry done, okay?
05:27:24.620
It's not sexual, you fucking weirdo girls back there.
05:27:34.780
Every time I went over there, I would clean his bathroom and all that stuff.
05:27:46.880
Does anybody, before I get into it with you, though, who here thinks, first time you go to a guy's house,
05:27:52.460
would it be unreasonable to do his laundry for him?
05:27:57.400
Unless, like, if that's something he asked me to do, and I really was into him.
05:28:00.580
Like, I mean, I guess I wouldn't be over there if I wasn't.
05:28:05.140
I think it's weirder to ask for it on a first time, but.
05:28:25.740
I will probably clean and do stuff and, like, cook and stuff.
05:28:32.540
I feel like, I don't know, maybe it's just me, but if someone's coming over to my apartment,
05:28:40.560
My question is going to be, why is your laundry undone?
05:28:42.900
You know, it's, I would never not do a laundry.
05:28:50.460
And she just goes, she just walks into your closet and goes, oh, you've got laundry.
05:28:57.040
No, it's different if she washes a few dishes and she makes you dessert.
05:29:02.760
But doing someone's laundry is, like, invasion.
05:29:14.640
Actually, my husband does, like, 95% of our laundry.
05:29:30.480
I don't want to touch a man's boxers who isn't my husband.
05:29:44.040
Yeah, you can't give up the, you can't give the milk for free until they buy the cow.
05:29:51.320
Yeah, that goes out the window, though, as I'm about to point out.
05:29:56.940
I think it was you, like, or maybe it was you who said, oh, what?
05:30:03.840
Well, the issue with the mom thing, right, is as soon as I turn this around when it comes
05:30:14.000
to women's expectations of men, you want men to provide, you want men to protect, whether
05:30:19.760
that's before your boyfriend and girlfriend, while your boyfriend and girlfriend, when you're
05:30:24.040
even married, you want men to provide and protect.
05:30:29.100
Because your father provided and protected you.
05:30:43.660
If he's not my boyfriend and I'm going there for the first time, I'm not doing his laundry.
05:30:55.580
Because that's a general criticism of the entire behavior, regardless of what point in the relationship
05:31:04.060
Because when you come over and there's dirty laundry, what I was saying is if you're seeing
05:31:07.740
dirty laundry, like, obviously, like, your room is, what I was anticipating is that, you
05:31:13.200
know, it's kind of like there's dirty laundry in the bathroom or wherever just scattered around
05:31:17.500
and you want somebody to come over to clean up.
05:31:19.400
I've said for the third time, it's in the laundry hamper.
05:31:21.720
Before I made that comment, I thought, oh, I'm coming over to, like, some dirty, like, frat
05:31:25.820
Even if that was the case and there was a couple pieces of clothing not in the hamper or not
05:31:31.360
Regardless, I am never doing laundry on a first time at someone's house.
05:31:36.400
I can different, I can move off of the, to be clear, though, you're saying it's not an
05:31:47.100
So even, okay, just so it's not, oh, you want a girl to do, to be your mom.
05:32:01.140
I have to forward arguments that you're not, oh, my God.
05:32:05.540
You're not going to do your laundry on the first time at your house.
05:32:08.500
Okay, but then don't forward the argument that what do you want?
05:32:10.980
You want a woman who, you want a girl to be your mom?
05:32:17.960
Yeah, but when women make the, I'm not your mom argument, that's, that is irrespective
05:32:25.720
of where, how far you are into the relationship.
05:32:29.180
Women will say that in a five-year marriage, you've been dating a guy for two years.
05:32:51.360
Okay, you want a man to pay on the first date, correct?
05:33:03.140
Should a man protect you on a second or third date?
05:33:25.240
You said you don't care about how much money a man makes.
05:33:27.820
So it's reasonable for me to believe that you would date a guy who makes $20 an hour?
05:33:37.920
I'm not making a criticism of that, but you would date a guy who makes $20 an hour.
05:33:42.740
To take you out on a date, I think it'd be reasonable if he takes you to a nice, uh, no, no, no.
05:33:48.760
If he takes you out to a dinner, he's spending a hundred bucks and he's paying for it.
05:33:53.700
Assuming it's, uh, you know, we'll cut that down the middle.
05:34:01.320
Your demand for a man on a first date is he has to work two and a half hours to take you on a date.
05:34:10.380
If I want a girl, the first time she comes over, that doesn't even mean it's the first date.
05:34:18.180
First time she comes over, it takes 10 minutes to do the laundry.
05:34:25.060
It's not the fucking 1700s, which with a washing board, we have in technology that by the way, is invented by men.
05:34:34.940
I know you, you pick the up, the, the, the clothes, you put them in the machine.
05:34:42.200
Two minutes, put some soap in whatever you put, you turn it on, you check on it 30 minutes, an hour later.
05:34:50.840
It takes one, two minutes to transfer it to the dryer, press a button.
05:34:58.280
Well then you can do that when we're not on a date.
05:35:00.700
Maybe the, the law, the longest period of time, the folding takes the longest.
05:35:06.300
So let's say it's 30 minutes total, even being, uh, generous, I guess.
05:35:10.820
So I, it's an issue for me to want a woman to work 30, uh, sorry, not 30, 30 minutes, but for a guy to take you on a date that costs a hundred dollars, which I think you go to Chili's, you're spending a hundred bucks.
05:35:29.460
You go to Chili's, you get an appetizer, you get, you each get a drink, you get a main course, you get a dessert, you get, you give a tip.
05:35:39.140
You want a guy to work two and a half hours to take you on a first date.
05:35:42.960
And you said you wouldn't even do the laundry on the first, uh, the first time you go there.
05:35:48.720
So a guy might have to take you on two, three, four, five, six, seven dates before you'd even consider doing that.
05:35:57.900
So why is my expectation weird that I'd want a woman to maybe spend 30 minutes doing the laundry, but you want a guy to work two and a half hours to take you on a date?
05:36:07.440
I never said the date would be a hundred dollars, but yeah, sure.
05:36:12.700
Do you think, do you think a hundred dollars spent on the first date is like really unreasonable?
05:36:17.920
Uh, not really unreasonable, but it's pretty high.
05:36:20.680
I don't think it's that high for like a mid tier restaurant is Chili's mid tier.
05:36:31.880
But why is the guy bringing her over if he has a dirty house?
05:36:51.620
You each get, I mean, look here, here would be my breakdown of whether you drink or not.
05:36:56.760
Maybe, uh, I'm not talking soda, two drinks, appetizer, main course, dessert tip that gets to, that gets you to a hundred bucks at like even lower ends.
05:37:33.500
So it's maybe less than an hour and a half, whatever.
05:37:37.620
Um, he has to work an hour to take you on the first date.
05:37:52.120
But you have a, you disagree as it relates to me wanting.
05:37:56.920
He is putting his money into a piggy bank because it'll pay off later when I am doing his laundry and cleaning his house.
05:38:06.160
You haven't married any of the men you've been with.
05:38:10.680
When you're, when you first start dating, you are investing in something.
05:38:17.800
This is why I don't go on dates with most people.
05:38:20.240
This is why I'm not on dating apps because I don't want to invest in something unless I know that I like them and I know that I want to pursue something.
05:38:28.560
So I don't just like, if random Joe Schmo asked me on a date outside, I'm not going to go on a date with him because I don't know him at all.
05:38:41.200
But you have a specific criticism of my expectation of wanting a woman to fold laundry the first time she comes over.
05:38:58.560
But so is it ridiculous for women to demand men to pay for first dates then?
05:39:08.060
I've never demanded any dinners in my life, but if.
05:39:24.100
Does he get negative brownie points if he doesn't do it?
05:39:30.140
Have you ever had the experience where you go on a date with a guy and the waiter comes
05:39:45.760
On a first date, no, I have not ever had somebody split a check.
05:39:52.400
The woman who doesn't demand it or expect it, you get it anyways.
05:39:57.500
I just said being a woman's pretty fucking cool.
05:40:00.580
But so there is an expectation and whether you actually, whether you actually articulate
05:40:07.220
your demand, men feel a societal cultural pressure, whether, regardless of whether we
05:40:13.600
know your position on it or not, men, men aren't even going to go into a date.
05:40:20.520
It's like a major L for a guy to want to have the convo.
05:40:34.120
You just admitted that you've never paid on a date.
05:40:38.060
I've offered, but I haven't paid because they didn't let me.
05:40:43.200
Because there's a societal and cultural expectation for men to do so.
05:40:47.300
And I would assume, look, I don't, I don't know what.
05:40:56.500
If a guy did say two checks, would you feel a type of way?
05:41:01.160
Like, I understand you might accept it, but would you feel a type of way about it?
05:41:05.000
I would think that the date isn't going very well.
05:41:18.220
I would think that he didn't really, like, enjoy his time with me, but I would, I wouldn't discriminate and hate him for it.
05:41:26.500
So going, so he would be starting off with a deficit going into the second date of you feeling like something's off.
05:41:38.720
Well, you would, because you, you said you would feel like he, he wasn't into it, which would create confusion for you.
05:41:44.260
Well, then if he asked me on a second date, I would be like, oh, okay, like things are cool.
05:41:52.380
So if men should pay on first dates, men should provide protect, men should be chivalrous.
05:42:03.280
For you, and then I'll open up to the rest of the panel.
05:42:07.080
Women should be good role models for their children.
05:42:14.900
Tell me what women should do for their boyfriends.
05:42:21.420
They should cook for them and treat them with respect.
05:42:27.940
And, um, how soon when they're their boyfriend or girlfriend, none of this like little, I don't
05:42:37.720
That's not a relationship that you for first dates until that's the girlfriend.
05:42:55.020
You're telling me when you go on second dates, the guy still doesn't pay again.
05:42:58.340
I've, I've, I've, I have split the check on a second date, but you still probably frequently
05:43:09.780
So, so why can't I, as a guy say, no, you don't get to be paid for until you're my girlfriend.
05:43:29.220
Well, I think a man should always pay on a first date and they usually do because they
05:43:34.200
They want to show you that they, that they want you.
05:43:36.400
And so they're like, I'm going to pay for this meal to feed you because I like you.
05:43:40.520
I just say, look, we're going 50, 50, but trust me, I'm into you and I want to fuck
05:43:46.940
Like, I feel like men should want me saying that.
05:43:51.320
Why can't I tell my guy friends not to pay for dates other than the first date?
05:43:56.640
I tell my, I tell my guy friends, unless you really, really like her and you think she
05:44:02.160
likes you, don't pay for dates because I know girls who go out multiple nights a week
05:44:11.420
You know, when it's not in situations like these and it's actually someone who they want
05:44:16.360
to pursue, I feel like they should take the first step in leadership.
05:44:20.620
I mean, men are natural born leaders and that's something that we can't deny.
05:44:24.440
That's why I believe that men should pay on the first date.
05:44:27.360
As for what women should provide and what a good girlfriend slash wife should be, they
05:44:33.600
should be nurturing, they should be patient, they should be respecting of their husband or
05:44:40.140
They should never speak ill about them in front of other people.
05:44:43.340
That's a very, very important thing that I learned from my parents.
05:44:51.800
They should be also, this is a very specific one, but they should be very perceptive.
05:44:56.980
I've heard that a very, very good wife or a woman is very, she has a good, I think there's
05:45:08.060
You know, there needs to be some level of discernment as, you know, not just a girlfriend, but if you're
05:45:12.600
going to be a mother as well, you need to be able to have that instinct within you.
05:45:16.580
And all of this comes from, you know, not just loving your husband or boyfriend, obviously,
05:45:26.360
So I think that's a, for me, that's what a good girlfriend or what a girl should bring
05:45:42.040
To a certain extent, to a certain extent, to the extent that the woman makes the determination
05:46:16.400
I mean, yeah, I'm not going to say yes to every single thing.
05:46:27.240
Like, obviously, if your husband says, jump off a building, you should not do that.
05:46:41.400
So, I mean, I'm just, look, there's very, it seems like there's these expectations on men.
05:46:47.220
The moment a man has an expectation on a woman and, oh my God, big deal, blah, blah, blah.
05:46:59.700
But he just disagreed with his laundry expectation.
05:47:02.280
But I don't like the idea of it being an expectation on a first time you're there.
05:47:12.860
Well, here's, here's how I would translate this.
05:47:15.140
So basically the first time a girl comes over to my place and maybe that's, we've already
05:47:21.480
been on a date, one, two, three dates, whatever, or, you know, or I'd say the first time we're
05:47:26.040
hanging out, whatever that's asking her to do about 30 minutes of work when women have
05:47:35.840
In this case, many of you have probably dated guys who at some point or other have worked
05:47:41.620
minimum wage or, you know, $15 an hour, $20 an hour, especially when you're younger, when
05:47:49.360
I get your point, but he has to work one, two, three, four hours to pay for your date.
05:47:59.000
But it would still be kind of creepy to be at a man's house for the first time and him
05:48:07.640
Well, then it's really creepy for women to expect men to pay for first dates.
05:48:15.640
I get it's like not as socially acceptable or whatever, but like what's wrong with wanting
05:48:25.300
He's a guy that you went on a couple dates with.
05:48:29.140
You're going to his house, assuming you've obviously hung out a few times, you're going
05:48:33.380
to his house for the first time, and you see that he needs some help, like cleaning
05:48:40.380
I didn't even, I don't even think it's like a ego thing or anything.
05:48:44.920
Well, now that it's explained that way, I feel like I know it.
05:48:52.240
Laundry is kind of like something really personal.
05:48:56.540
Like I said, I would do a few dishes, potentially.
05:49:07.340
Like if I knew this man, and we've been dating for like, I don't know, a couple, like at
05:49:17.140
So I'll know that if he needs help cleaning up, that's not something I'm supposed to.
05:49:21.100
I mean, not you should, but like I would want to help him.
05:49:24.760
Like what if he has his other things to be doing?
05:49:28.800
But the expectation is the one that is kind of like creeping me out.
05:49:32.260
That's like the same thing that if you go to the restaurant, I would like him to pay.
05:49:39.200
And the same thing with the laundry or the dishes.
05:49:42.400
Don't expect me to do it, but I will help and I will do it.
05:49:46.440
And I will be like really happy of you being appreciated about it.
05:49:55.220
I think we should play the bow video because I have way more expectations than just laundry.
05:50:02.440
Here, while he's getting that pulled up, I have some chats.
05:50:43.680
Women expect so many things from men on the first date.
05:50:47.240
But why is it wrong for men to expect women to do their dishes or laundry on or after the first date?
05:51:16.960
And they're wearing their winter furs or whatever.
05:51:42.260
Yeah, but then the difference is if you're dating a guy and something scary happens and
05:51:51.480
you run away out of fear, okay, you say that, but, and you scream or you shriek, your husband
05:51:59.060
is not going to lower his, he's not, he's not going to lose, he's not going to lose attraction
05:52:04.680
He's, if you're a coward, men aren't going to be like, uh, if a man's a coward, if a man
05:52:11.060
runs away, if a man shrieks, but that's the reason why I do the laundry, it's the end
05:52:21.760
So we can have a conversation while I would give my life for my husband, blah, blah, blah.
05:52:25.140
Well, if we're just at generalized courage, if the guy's lacking in courage, if he's a coward,
05:52:31.940
if he's scared, whatever, ah, that's going to be assessed really.
05:52:35.940
Women are going to assess that really, really badly.
05:52:39.020
Men, if you, oh my God, a mouse, a spider, but your boyfriend like jumps up on the chair
05:52:56.580
And I think, um, but I know you guys have, that's called being manly, but when I say women
05:53:11.280
I'm not saying you said that, but that's how it's viewed.
05:53:13.780
When men say, like, for example, do you think it's, uh, do you think it's okay to say men
05:53:25.560
So yeah, he should know how to, and I'll teach him.
05:53:28.220
Do you think it's fine for, for, for a woman to say men should know how to change a tire?
05:53:43.260
That's maybe we have a more of a reasonable table here, I guess, but I think a lot of people
05:53:49.660
Um, that's, that's sexism against women to say that they should do that.
05:53:56.160
I used to make my ex breakfast burritos every morning before he went to work or every other
05:54:02.780
I would skip some mornings cause I didn't want to wake up super early.
05:54:06.120
Um, but yeah, they should do all of those things.
05:54:09.480
I mean, he, they shouldn't do laundry on a first time over, but I guess what I'm trying
05:54:14.860
to get at is if men should do all these things, I'm not sure what, what should women do.
05:54:25.320
You said have children, take care of their children.
05:54:34.840
That's because men don't want to marry women because they, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
05:54:45.260
They don't want to marry women because they're all fucking everybody.
05:55:03.980
They need to offer more and they need to be more.
05:55:10.260
If a woman did do it, like, let's just talk about practical reality.
05:55:17.440
Um, not, it won't hurt her, but it's just going to be, I think that's awkward.
05:55:29.740
Like, oh, I'm here for the first time and I'm cleaning up his house.
05:55:34.820
So I need to give my life for a girl I'm on a first date with.
05:55:53.460
If there was a shoot, if I was at a restaurant and a shooter came in and he took a bullet for
05:55:58.140
me on a first date, I would think, whoa, whoa, that's wild.
05:56:08.280
Maybe somebody else said something along the lines of, I asked, should a man be willing
05:56:11.880
to provide and protect on the first, second, third date?
05:56:15.360
And you did say, you did answer in the affirmative.
05:56:19.200
Whether that means taking the bullet for you, maybe not to that extent.
05:56:23.360
But there's this idea, at least with the sidewalk rule, that that's an extension of men should
05:56:32.400
Oh, if a car comes barreling down the road and goes onto the sidewalk, the man should be
05:56:39.300
closer to that so he gets hit instead of the woman.
05:56:42.260
If I got to fucking die for a chick, yeah, she should do my laundry.
05:56:52.020
I don't know if you guys have a saying like this, but we have a saying in Finnish.
05:56:57.400
That means women's first, women first, even to thin ice.
05:57:10.480
Like, women should be first, but it's added even to go onto ice that is thin.
05:57:38.940
Do you expect somebody to do your laundry on a first?
05:57:48.380
The question I was asking was, would it hurt the woman?
05:57:51.420
And like, if we're talking about the most effective strategy for a woman to take when dating,
05:57:59.920
In fact, the guy could be like, oh, wifey material.
05:58:05.180
So if you're a woman struggling to get a guy, oh, no, take 20 minutes to just, and even the gesture would be appreciated.
05:58:14.360
Some guys might be like, nah, you don't have to do that.
05:58:16.760
But if you just say, the first time you're at a guy's house, you're sitting there, you're talking, you just make the gesture.
05:58:26.860
But you make the gesture and you just say, hey, is there anything I can help you out with around the house while I'm here?
05:58:43.360
Maybe he can keep you company in the laundry room.
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Like if you see some dishes in the sink, like, oh, do you need help?
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If you see some laundry, be like, you want me to, you want some help with that?
05:59:17.440
It's just like you'll take his load, but you won't hold his load.
05:59:22.240
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
05:59:24.000
That's what that sounded like, but it's not in a sexual way.
05:59:34.720
But like, have you ever, and maybe even not a one-night stand, but even a guy who you went
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on to date for a period of time, like, did you ever go back to his place the same first
05:59:49.540
So one-night stand would be like, you sleep with them the first time and that's it.
05:59:54.680
And then the follow-up question there was, like, you could sleep with a guy the first
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But you have had a one-night stand where you sleep with a guy.
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And I'm getting the impression, to be fair to you, you don't do that anymore, right?
06:00:36.880
You haven't had a one-night stand in a while, right?
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What's confusing to me, I feel like it's almost wholesome.
06:00:45.000
The first time a girl comes over to my house, I want her to fill my laundry.
06:00:49.640
The first time y'all go to a guy's house, he wants to blow his
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So, I'm like, you'll let a guy come in the back of your throat,
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Y'all be lending some dude balls deep, sometimes without a condom?
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But y'all be dealing with dudes who expect to be balls deep in your pussy?
06:01:49.640
Not the first time that you go over to their house.
06:01:54.740
Women be sucking dick the first time they go to a guy's house.
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I'm thinking more like the first time I go to his house, I've met multiple guys.
06:02:02.080
No, if you're willing to sleep with a man, you should be okay with folding his laundry.
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I don't know if you're trying to argue otherwise.
06:02:13.160
But if you're ready to sleep with a man, you should have no problem folding his laundry.
06:02:17.220
Wait, that's actually a really good point you made.
06:02:19.440
I actually haven't exactly thought of it in that way.
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But there will be women who are so down to suck a guy's dick, have sex with him, they'll fuck raw, fuck without a condom.
06:02:41.300
Yeah, it's warped because they think it's empowerment.
06:02:43.380
Shouldn't it be like, no, no, no, I won't fuck you.
06:02:52.280
I'll do both when the time is right, not the first time going over there.
06:03:44.500
Brian, these women who refuse to do the laundry or even the dishes are why many Western men
06:03:51.220
They expect so much from good men but offer little to nothing in return.
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Like, how does he know that majority of Western men are done with this?
06:04:05.680
If a woman from an Asian country was like, I want to marry an American man, they'd be like,
06:04:10.700
But he's also, like, saying, oh, passport bros, you should go get an Asian lady in some
06:04:22.420
So, according to Chair 4's views, men are a disposable commodity.
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If that is the case, then what made women so highly valued?
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Apparently, I'm a misogynist, according to Brian.
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But I never said that women were valued higher than men at all, ever.
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And maybe he needs to listen to the podcast a little again.
06:05:19.460
More and more Western men are now realizing that women expecting you to pay for the first
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date, pick them up, and drop them off at home is entitled and quite sexist, especially
06:05:46.420
What makes you think that many Western women are so high value that any little thing, such
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On a first time over, I don't think they should be doing the laundry.
06:06:11.840
This is a tutorial I recorded of my ex-girlfriend to show to future girlfriends.
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The food was, yeah, it was a little, the temperature was bad on it.
06:07:10.100
Going around the table, would you bow for a man?
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It's hard, because I don't know how my dad will feel about me doing that, but also trying
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to sit, like, if I really did respect this man, I don't know if I'll necessarily bow,
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I just think, I think bowing is a little, it's, the situation seems strange.
06:07:51.860
Well, I mean, culturally, it might seem a bit eccentric.
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But in terms of the actual, you know, the actual action itself, it's completely benign.
06:08:17.740
I'll get into that, but would you bow for a man?
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I'd give him a hug, I'd give him a kiss, I'd make him dinner.
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It would be something that would be pleasing to him.
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I thought, but didn't you agree with me that women should be submissive and women should
06:08:45.140
Yeah, I mean, the whole rest of the video, totally fine, normal, but.
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Yeah, again, I don't know what my dad would think about that either.
06:08:53.860
I think he would think it's absolutely ludicrous, so I don't know.
06:08:57.680
What would your dad think about all the, whatever you've done?
06:09:04.000
I mean, I, I agree that it is a bit strange, to be honest, um, but if it was, you know,
06:09:18.780
I will ask about the perfect man, if that changes anything.
06:09:27.320
You can envision yourself realistically being married someday, right?
06:09:33.120
And I assume this man isn't going to be perfect, right?
06:09:37.600
If that man, your husband, asks you to do it, do you do it?
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Not the perfect man, not the ideal man, the man you end up with.
06:09:44.520
I mean, just because of how strange it was, I'm not sure, but that doesn't mean that I
06:09:48.660
wouldn't be submissive to him to do other things, but bowing, I think it's just.
06:10:04.700
I understand it's strange, but it, it doesn't hurt, it doesn't hurt you.
06:10:15.060
Well, obviously it doesn't hurt me, but it, it puts me in a position where it's just strange.
06:10:23.900
Well, I mean, we can extend this out to like other areas of life where you might encounter
06:10:29.800
Like me, me, for example, I think if you're with someone who you otherwise get along with
06:10:35.720
and they're, uh, you're attracted to them and you like them and there's good personality,
06:10:39.780
but they have like a harmless sexual kink, I think instead of like making fun of them
06:10:44.860
for it or thinking it's weird, I think if it's like, Hey, this is something that turns
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them on and it's not like strange or harmful in any, any sort of way.
06:10:51.840
I think in furtherance of being a good partner, probably just so engage in their kink.
06:11:01.160
No, I'm just saying, no, I'm saying, I'm talking about something separate.
06:11:03.940
But I think there are certain things where you could, you could be like, well, this
06:11:23.940
For example, if I was, I'll give you an example.
06:11:28.280
If you know, I was, um, dating a girl and she wanted to, a couple of times during sex,
06:11:37.780
Like she, she's not full blown furry, but she's like, you know what?
06:11:42.380
I just, I wanted like purr and meow a few times.
06:11:47.620
And I cared about this girl and she was my girlfriend and I loved her.
06:11:51.780
I wouldn't be like, what the fuck is wrong with you, weirdo?
06:11:58.180
They have like a little interesting kink or whatever.
06:12:06.620
Yeah, but bowing is kind of like showing like honor.
06:12:15.960
Like obviously I would honor my husband, but not.
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I don't, I don't mean it that way, but it's just, he's expecting me to bow to him.
06:12:26.840
It just, it just feels strange, but I'm trying to understand like, like if it's.
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Maybe not expecting, maybe he just means as like a, can you bow?
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Like, I feel like we, most of us would just be like, okay.
06:12:42.740
I don't think I would, I don't think I would fall in love with somebody who expects a
06:12:51.760
But here and there, if you were like, can you bow this week or like, you know.
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I mean, I, I want to say no, but I just don't want it to make it sound like I wouldn't.
06:13:08.040
If you love him, he means a lot to you and you really want it.
06:13:20.760
Uh, and by the way, is everybody here Christian?
06:13:22.800
Maybe she's the only fucking Christian one because, uh, submit onto your, wait, wait, how's it
06:13:28.140
going to go fucking, uh, submit onto your husbands as you would onto the Lord.
06:13:32.520
Um, like a biblical Christian marriage, like the husband's the head of the household.
06:13:38.740
You're submissive to him again within the purview of like, uh, Christian ethics, Christian morality.
06:13:45.080
If he asks you to start, start being a, a prostitute, of course, you're not going to be submissive to
06:13:51.260
If he wants you to start an only fans, no, that's in contravention of Christian, uh, Christian
06:14:01.440
I just, I guess it's somebody in my discord put it really well.
06:14:06.340
I think it's, uh, uh, her name, she always changes her username.
06:14:11.540
So I'm trying to, um, she wrote that, uh, if you will do one really easy, effortless,
06:14:19.840
completely benign thing just to make your man happy, regardless of how silly, silly it is.
06:14:29.160
Um, question though, for the perfect man, perfect man, it's not just look in life.
06:14:41.440
We're not going to get the perfect spouse, husband, wife, whatever.
06:14:46.580
They're going to annoy us in some way or another.
06:14:50.180
They're not going to have as much hair as you'd like.
06:14:54.060
They're not going to be every, every single thing that you want.
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You might really love them and they might be fantastic.
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You're not going to get the perfect person for the perfect man.
06:15:07.400
I mean, it would have to be like role-playing or whatever.
06:15:18.980
After you said that whole thing about submitting to your husbands, I'm going to have to say,
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Do you do laundry the first time you go to his house?
06:16:09.720
Do you give up your career for the perfect man?
06:16:20.840
Oh, cause I, I really like shit talking and everything like that.
06:16:24.500
So, um, yeah, you have to get, you have to, uh, you do like social media to get the perfect
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By the way, the perfect man could be like a billionaire.
06:16:51.760
Um, you would rather, wait, wait, let her answer, let her answer.
06:16:59.040
If he, yeah, if he took care of my family, cause a lot of what I do is because I want my family
06:17:05.880
I want to be big enough or I want to start something big enough where I can, um, have,
06:17:12.340
have my family safe and I can take care of them.
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So if that man can do that, then I, I would be more than happy to give it all up.
06:17:24.080
I mean, if it can't be like, Oh, we can't do a couple of stuff on it and like family stuff.
06:17:31.620
You give up easily, uh, give up perfect or give up career for perfect man.
06:17:48.860
So it's not just giving up your career, which for most people won't have the perfect career.
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Whatever the perfect career is, you have two options, perfect career or perfect man.
06:18:02.740
I guess the, the perfect man because yeah, perfect man, perfect man, perfect man, perfect man.
06:18:16.540
Um, I don't know if I have anything else on the laundry thing.
06:18:24.060
Why did you choose laundry over like sweeping or watering his plants?
06:18:29.260
Like those are things that I might actually do.
06:18:35.160
I feel like, like dragging around the hose and like holding, like holding the hose, which
06:18:41.320
I mean, it's, it's like a few, your hands get tired after a while.
06:18:47.960
That's it's five pounds, but you do it for 30 minutes.
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No, I was saying like, don't worry about it, but it's a, it's a process.
06:19:14.360
I feel like that's a bigger ask than laundry, but that's something that I would do before
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No one said anything about toilet cleaning over laundry, but I'm saying like tidying up
06:19:32.900
Well, those are the things that I would do before.
06:20:09.800
I could have been like, she's got a churn butter.
06:20:15.400
She, if she won't find someone who will, if she wanted to, she would like, make me a quilt.
06:20:46.920
I train her so that she's ready for the all valley karate tournament.
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Um, yeah, that's what I think I deserve because nevermind.
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Women, women will poke the back of their throats with an F boys pecker.
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He's going to shank me next time he sees me, man.
06:21:49.900
Great point from chair three about the one night stand.
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Western marriage is a humiliation ritual where a man has to bend a knee and offer his life
06:22:19.960
to a woman and is at her mercy because she can at any time divorce him and take all his
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But you have the armed man, so you should know it.
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I'm going to start a goal in the YouTube section for Super Chat.
06:22:55.140
I will wear a kilt next episode if we hit this goal.
06:23:31.380
Actually, it would kind of be funny to do it with Andrew here.
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I reserve the right to not have it be the Andrew episode, but I'm a nice guy.
06:23:49.200
Brian will wear a kilt during an episode in November.
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I don't yet, but I might fucking buy one so I can do the thing.
06:24:42.220
I want you to look in the camera, though, and fucking apologize for being a racist.
06:25:23.440
You said you want to bring back celibacy, your final note.
06:25:30.600
You want to bring back celibacy and shaming and not celebrating hoe behavior.
06:25:52.220
But I intend that the next person that I sleep with is going to be my husband.
06:26:10.740
But you're not going to make him wait until marriage.
06:26:24.060
You write you have serious daddy issues in 10 seconds or less.
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And he was just a real asshole for 10 years of my life.
06:26:42.060
And then when he left, the last words he said to me were, go burn in hell.
06:26:58.300
And it's been put on my heart to forgive him, which is hard.
06:27:04.260
So you, the big thing I wanted to talk to you about, I wish I got into it earlier because
06:27:12.100
You say you've been married to your husband for a while.
06:27:20.420
We bicker like a lot, but we get over it so fast.
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Like I don't name, I try my best not to name call.
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And then like two minutes later, okay, I'm sorry.
06:27:47.880
And he always accepts my apologies, which is nice.
06:27:50.960
Um, you wrote that, uh, you, you also write related to this.
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You're pretty mouthy sometimes and your husband is more quiet.
06:28:02.620
Um, when you say you're pretty mouthy, uh, can you give us some examples of how you might
06:28:13.240
Um, if he like role play, if you snapped at me, be like, can you not talk to me like that?
06:28:18.740
Like he does that or you, I do that or I'll be like, so he's, you're saying he's mouthy
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Like if he snaps or he's in a bad mood, you know, or I, um, I'm trying to think if we
06:28:33.060
like role play, uh, he forgets things a lot, which I should let it go more, but I don't.
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So I'll be like, Oh my gosh, I can't believe you forgot this.
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Like you don't even care if you cared, you wouldn't forget.
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And then I have to step back and remind myself, like, he's a busy guy.
06:28:50.560
Like he forgot to pick up something during an errand?
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He like, Oh, he'll go out to like pick up dinner or something.
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Say it how you would say it when you're being pretty mouthy.
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Like if you cared about me, you would know my order.
06:29:11.240
As a person, I have to step back and I have to apologize and I have to be like, I'm sorry.
06:29:18.620
I have a terrible memory and I can tell you from the heart that it's never because I didn't
06:29:28.340
You also wrote, you also wrote related to this.
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You definitely talk back to your husband too much.
06:29:37.480
You even wrote, we aren't even getting along that well right now, but there, there's no
06:29:41.520
hint of a separation or breakup because you guys trust each other, remain close.
06:29:45.140
Um, you also never withhold sex and you often encourage sex.
06:29:55.780
Uh, I want to give you a call to action that I hope your husband and maybe you'll have some
06:30:02.840
benefits with the kids too, might appreciate that could fundamentally change and improve
06:30:12.380
And I always say to him too, if I, uh, Skylar will never hit me cause he knows I'll hit back.
06:30:17.340
Like, Whoa, I wasn't talking about, I know I'm just saying, but like, I'm always very much
06:30:21.480
like, Oh, don't come at me cause I'll come at you.
06:30:23.240
But like, I, I, like I, I have worked on anger issues.
06:30:38.080
Um, I can't help it, but, um, show, I don't know.
06:30:46.760
I've noticed recently, especially because since I became disabled, he does so much for us.
06:30:50.880
And I feel a lot of guilt about like the things I can't do anymore.
06:30:54.380
So a lot of times I'll start to get mouthy and I say, wait, he didn't mean it like that.
06:31:04.160
No cattiness, cut the rebelliousness, be pleasant entirely, drop it entirely.
06:31:14.860
And I think, look, you, cause you said he was quiet.
06:31:17.520
So I mean, maybe I am misunderstood because you said he would sometimes snap at you.
06:31:21.500
No, I definitely like he is quiet and I definitely overpower the conversation sometimes.
06:31:25.920
Cause like, I think a lot of men, they'll be in the dog house if they try to call out their girlfriends or wives on this.
06:31:35.020
Like it's crushing to a man to date a woman who's like snappy with you.
06:31:42.380
And a lot of men, I gotta be, look, uh, they, they don't want to create friction.
06:31:48.140
A lot of men don't want to create conflict, especially in a, you guys been together for 13 years, married for 10, you got kids.
06:31:54.980
A lot of men just in that situation, like, it's one thing you've been dating some chick for six months and she mouths off to you, man, I'm she's fucking dumped, but he can't just, when you're married, when you got kids, uh, you can't, that's, that's not really an option.
06:32:10.000
I mean, it is technically an option, but you can't really bring it there.
06:32:14.120
Um, I mean, I would, I would correct my girl, but if it continues and she's mouthing off to me, goodbye.
06:32:19.320
Yeah, he definitely shuts down and that's when I'm like, I've gone too far.
06:32:22.660
I need to, well, yeah, that's what was going through my mind when you said he's a bit quiet.
06:32:26.780
Like a lot of guys, they don't, they don't, uh, call it out.
06:32:32.060
They don't call it out because it's just going to create more friction.
06:32:35.340
And I think a lot of men's approach, I don't think it's the right approach, but they'll do this happy wife, happy life thing.
06:32:43.120
But it's got to be happy spouse, happy house, because it's not just the wife that matters, both of y'all matter.
06:32:49.340
But I think a lot of men, they, they, uh, they'll, uh, they didn't call it out in the beginning and now it's just an established behavior.
06:33:00.780
Yeah, it definitely became established and now I have to do the work to just not do it so much.
06:33:05.760
And like I said, since I've been sick, I'm in this new role, which has actually been like really eye opening.
06:33:10.020
Like I said, I am far from perfect. I mess up every day, but I, I'm absolutely trying.
06:33:15.820
I always tell people like, try to act like it's your first year, even when it's your 10th year, because your first year you were on your best behavior.
06:33:23.240
You were your sweetest, you were your most patient and yeah, just everything.
06:33:29.240
But, but a lot of men will, will kind of be doormats a little bit with some of this shit.
06:33:33.780
They, they, they all, uh, and like, I'm not fully blaming them because there comes a point in a relationship when it's like you, you feel like your role as the man is just to like avoid friction and avoid, uh, tension and be the peacekeeper.
06:33:56.640
Sure. But I don't know if I'm trying to, from what I, from what you've told me, I could share something.
06:34:08.600
I do. Um, I also too, I was, um, I'll share a little too much, but I was diagnosed bipolar a couple of years back and I am totally, yes, I, I, on medicine.
06:34:17.600
And so things are going in the right direction and it just, it explained a lot. It really did.
06:34:22.620
I had a crappy childhood. What can I say? And it's coming out, you know, with some issues, but you know, and I, but like I said, I'm, I'm really trying to do better.
06:34:29.700
And, um, I take a medication and things are going really well. So, and I'm sorry, Skylar. Um, I hope later we can kiss and make up and at least yourself aware.
06:34:40.920
Yeah. Big. That's huge. Yeah. You're aware. Yeah. Once I start doing it, I'm like, wait, don't do this. You know?
06:34:47.680
I mean, at least, at least it's good. I mean, it's not good that you're doing it, but you said that two minutes later you come back and you apologize.
06:34:56.620
That's, you shouldn't do it in the first place, but at least it's like, you know, you're not letting him sit in that shit for like three hours.
06:35:07.300
Oh, no, never. I don't ever shut up if that's not obvious. And I, I like, I, even when I'm mad at him, I'm like, Hey, how are you talking to him?
06:35:13.740
Like, and I'm like, just cause I'm talking to you doesn't mean I'm not mad at you, but I can't help it. I can't help but talk to him.
06:35:19.560
But it's, uh, Proverbs 21, 19 better to live in the desert than with a quarrelsome and nagging wife.
06:35:26.560
Oh man. So do you nag him? No, actually. Okay. I do a little bit.
06:35:31.920
Like the air, you said he forgets that stuff. Yeah. But like, yes, I will do that a little bit. Cause he's, he does forget a lot of things.
06:35:40.080
So the reminders put his name, Skylar, it is put some respect. Yeah. I'm a homie Skylar. Okay. Okay. That was cringe. Sorry.
06:35:50.240
He's probably laughing. He thought it was funny. You thought he was put some, you know what? Skylar, Skylar, Skylar, Skylar, Skylar, Skylar. You see it?
06:35:59.360
You think he's watching? He's probably, is he watching? Skylar.
06:36:01.600
Skylar. Skylar. Listen to me, bro. Check this shit out. You're going to put a sound clip on your phone and, um, it's going to be something like, Paige, put some respect on my boy Skylar. Clip that shit, Skylar. Every time she mouths off at you, Skylar, if she mouths off at you, just play the clip.
06:36:28.900
Be like, look, Brian. Hey, it's out of my hands, Paige. Brian said to cut the shit. Okay. So we got to listen to, you know, the podcast host. You got to listen to the podcast host.
06:36:41.840
I don't think I nag him. Cause I'm not like, oh, you could clean that better or you could do this. I'd never do that. I like, I try to like, I'm always like, I'm proud of you. You're doing so much for our family.
06:36:50.180
I'll give you another one, Skylar. I rebuke ye in the name of the, okay. Clip that shit too.
06:36:58.900
If she starts mouthing off, uh, and then you can also do, uh, oh, here's another one. Here's a good one.
06:37:05.860
The lady doth protest too much. Me thinks. That's my favorite shit. Whenever she's being fucking mouthy,
06:37:13.980
I'll do it one more time in case the lady does. Wait, hold on.
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Now the pressure's on the lady doth protest too much. Me thinks he's really good at impressions.
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He'll probably just start saying that and it's going to make us laugh so hard. So
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actually thank you or something. Hamlet is in Hamlet. I don't know. Um, Skylar, just say that shit.
06:37:40.860
If she's being mouthy, just be like the lady doth protest too much. Something like that. Um,
06:37:49.500
is that Shakespeare? Can anybody, Nick, Google it? The lady doth protest too much. I don't know.
06:37:56.740
Whatever. Uh, anyways, yeah, just cut that shit out, you know, for, for the, for the, for Skylar.
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It's Hamlet. It is Hamlet. Oh my God. Fucking slam dunk. Fucking nailed that shit. Hamlet. Oh my God.
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Do you guys, what do you guys think? That's like a food or something? What? We had to read Hamlet back
06:38:21.420
in the day. Just kidding. I'm just joking. Okay. Anyways, where were we? Uh, let's see some of your
06:38:27.960
other notes though. Um, let's see. Uh, I'm remembering everything I wrote to you. I'm
06:38:35.800
like, what's coming next? You know, uh, you said you disagree with some of the roles in
06:38:42.040
the marriage that come up on the show. We kind of talked about that though. Like the, like
06:38:47.880
I just think you're more of a partnership. You partnership. Gross. Wait, didn't you say
06:38:52.860
that it's been the best it's ever been now that you've let him take? You're right. Yeah.
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Fuck that shit. Um, partner. Oh my God. Partner. Come on. We really are like best friends. Cause
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we grew up together. I don't think women really want partnership. No, it's not partnership.
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The man has his roles. What's wrong with gender roles? I just didn't know. I was genuinely
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asking. Partnership. Would it mean that? I mean, it depends. Like in reality, I could be like
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the, you're one, if you're looking at it through scripture, you know, so it's not even a partnership.
06:39:26.260
Like you're just one. Yeah. You also wrote that, uh, if you're lonely, get it here. Tell
06:39:33.700
us the cat thing. The cat thing. Oh, if you're lonely, get a cat. Um, was it just don't ride
06:39:39.820
any random dick? You said just don't just hop on top of a random dick or better yet.
06:39:48.280
Open. Open. Oh, open a Bible. Yes. Sorry. Amen. Uh, you said there are so many ways to not
06:39:59.240
have sex, right? Get pregnant, get pregnant. Take some responsibility, be safe.
06:40:04.780
Okay. You say a two parent household is typically always better. Okay. Um, you say men should help
06:40:11.980
with chores. I'm not his mom. I, I don't, I think obviously like the things I do do, he
06:40:20.040
can expect me to do, but if he needs something else done, it's nice to be asked politely.
06:40:25.420
Don't command me to do it. Like, I mean, he, I do almost anything he asks me. I don't like
06:40:32.260
when women say this. I'm not his mom. I know. I take that back after hearing your argument
06:40:36.680
earlier. Yeah. Well, because it would just basically like, I never thought of it that
06:40:40.660
way about the father thing. If, if you're a woman who's going to say, I'm not his mom,
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I'm not going to do these things. Then you should be prepared for men to say, I'm not your dad.
06:40:52.620
I won't do these things. Provide, protect, pay for dates, et cetera. I never thought of it
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like, um, no, my dad never paid for dates. Okay. Please don't date your dad. What I'm
06:41:05.860
trying to get at, you know, what I'm trying to get at there is the providing component.
06:41:12.380
Men aren't your dads do that shit yourself. Um, uh, let's see. But I, cause if it makes you
06:41:19.840
his mom to cook and clean and do chores, then it makes him your dad to protect and provide. Um,
06:41:28.700
let's see. Uh, and then like, if the women say, well, I don't want to do the mom things. And the
06:41:34.300
dad says, I won't do the, the dad things. Then what does that leave companionship and fucking
06:41:40.900
there's no rules that we can, whatever. Uh, okay. We did the bear, you something about the bear.
06:41:48.000
Uh, final thing for you. Uh, you say women should have all the opportunities of men,
06:41:53.480
but the playing field should not be leveled. Oh, so you're talking like firefighters or police
06:41:59.860
or military, the physical requirement should be the same. Yeah. Is that absolutely. And if you
06:42:05.640
can't do it, you said you've kissed a lot of frogs, but you found a good one. You've been dating him for
06:42:12.320
seven years. Uh, your first relationship was the craziest lot of drama restraining order.
06:42:18.000
Yeah. But then you now friends. Yeah. He's more like a big brother, like a good friend.
06:42:25.540
I see. Okay. But no, we're not in contact like that much. Okay. And you said crazy attracts
06:42:30.980
crazy. So are you crazy? Probably. Okay. Uh, we have some chats here.
06:42:37.600
Vector donated $70. Chair three. I'm fascinated by Hitler too. Fascinated. Why a narcissistic putrid
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dictatorial bunnies would seek to wipe out the flowers because reasons the flagrant drug ridden
06:42:54.980
psychopathic idiotic blowhard. Wow. Vector has a, so there's a couple, uh, stream labs changes words.
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Uh, it was dictatorial ass would seek to wipe out Jewish people is, is what the TTS meant to say.
06:43:10.740
Oh, and he's, he's curious why they would do that. Or is that what he was saying? What was the end
06:43:17.500
where he was insulting somebody? He was talking about Hitler. Okay, good. Okay. Because he was a
06:43:23.460
flagrant drug ridden. Oh, okay, okay, good. Okay.
06:43:28.860
Chore XD donated $69. The reason men shut down, I know this because it's been me, is because not
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even our home brings us peace anymore. Avoiding you shouldn't be the path of least resistance.
06:43:42.880
Keep that in mind. Good point. I think sometimes not all, uh, obviously not all women do this, but
06:43:48.580
with the nagging and the, the, the mouthing off or whatever, you start chipping away at a guy
06:43:53.800
and you chip away, chip away, chip away. And they're like a husk of their
06:43:57.700
empty husk. What's the shell shell thing, a hollow shell of their price. That's something like that.
06:44:07.400
Just saying, you know, uh, the lady doth protest too much. Oh gosh. I bet when he picks me up later,
06:44:13.580
that's going to be the first thing he says. That should be the first thing he says. I've just given
06:44:18.480
him rhetorical weapons to use in your marital disputes. Employ them. You must oblige me, Skylar.
06:44:29.800
Employ the, the, uh, employ these tactics in your marriage, I guess. Strategies, marital. Okay,
06:44:37.940
whatever. Uh, let's see here. More notes. We have a few more notes. Uno memento. Sabrina 35 and you've
06:44:51.860
had terrible luck at dating. Yes. Uh, let's see. You've had some bad relationships, a lot of ghosting.
06:44:58.440
Uh, you're still single at 35, almost 36. You say maybe you write, maybe I'm the problem.
06:45:03.840
Maybe you're the problem. Uh, why, why do you think that's the case? Well, my last relationships,
06:45:12.400
they broke up with me for the same reasons. So I think we kind of touched on it a little bit. I
06:45:17.920
didn't really believe them. Okay. Um, all right. Um,
06:45:28.560
you write, although you're an independent working woman, you would like to eventually have a man as
06:45:35.580
a partner to grow something, to grow with together, be able to provide our rules for the relationship.
06:45:41.400
He's the provider of the family. You're the provider of the household. Yeah.
06:45:47.040
Did you say you would do the laundry? I did the laundry. I think you said, I don't know.
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Like the perfect man. No, I did the laundry. Okay. Soph. Yeah. No, I would bow to the perfect man. Oh, yeah.
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Soph. Blake. Soph. No. Soph. You, right? Me? Yeah. That's your name, right? Sophia? Sorry, nobody.
06:46:08.100
I don't know. Isn't your, your Instagram has it? Oh, yeah. Sorry, no one calls me Soph. Okay.
06:46:13.180
Sophia, single as a Pringle. Yes. Uh, you said you were talking to a guy, only a talking stage for
06:46:18.160
less than a week before you ghosted him. Because why? His, um, uncle told my parents, it was, um,
06:46:26.400
so on the 4th of July, I met this guy and we were just kind of talking. He was like super respectful.
06:46:30.940
Like he met my dad, shook his hand. Uh, so then we walked down like to the beach afterwards and then
06:46:36.220
we were just kind of talking. He was my first kiss. Come to find out like five days later, his uncle
06:46:41.760
told my parents, he was like, oh yeah, no, she needs to stop talking to him because he's going through
06:46:45.660
court for being in a drive-by shooting. Wow. What? Wait, did this happen after? Like,
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or he would, he had already been? He had already, like he's going through the court system. Okay. So
06:46:59.500
that had already happened before you met him? Yes. And I had absolutely no idea. Wait, he met
06:47:05.900
your parents within a week? Yeah. We met on the 4th of July and I was kind of at, it was like,
06:47:11.300
you're like with, like a party kind, not a party, but it was like, like the neighborhoods around and
06:47:16.840
he was just there cause where, where we used to live is just a neighborhood party kind of,
06:47:21.560
if that makes sense. Okay. But yeah, so we met my parents talking to him. White guy? I think he was
06:47:27.780
mixed. Mixed with what? Black, white. Okay. Pretty sure. That can be kind of romantic though. You tell
06:47:36.480
your kids, like, oh yeah, first kiss. Like, you know, he was just kind of like fighting a felony
06:47:41.340
charge or whatever. He was super respectful. He was very respectful though. Very respectful. But did
06:47:48.680
you talk to him about it or did you drop him immediately when you heard? Dropped him immediately.
06:47:53.840
Yeah. But I mean, is maybe he's like, I'm innocent. I don't really, yeah, no, I don't care.
06:47:59.840
What? Did you actually? His uncle is, he's very protective over my sister and I. He, we used to
06:48:08.160
live next to him. But did you verify any of this? Like, is there actually a court case? I have no idea.
06:48:12.960
I'm not risking it. I don't care. How old is he? 19. He's from Fresno, I think. Was he the shooter?
06:48:21.240
I don't know anything about it and I didn't want to risk it because I trust his uncle,
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like, with, with my life. It was his uncle? Yes. Not your uncle? No, his uncle. Very close. Damn,
06:48:32.300
bro. Very close with my family. He was wasted on the fourth and he, he was very clear that had he
06:48:38.500
been not wasted. Wait, the uncle was wasted? Yeah, the uncle was wasted and he was clear that had he
06:48:42.060
not been wasted, he wouldn't have let me go down to the beach with his nephew. His, wait, why is his
06:48:48.860
uncle cock blocking him? Oh my God. Like, why is his uncle? He's looking out for her. Yeah.
06:48:57.300
But what, I mean. The guy's trying to date a girl. What, look, he's, he's in a bit of trouble.
06:49:02.640
If he's not an upstanding citizen, I mean, I don't think he had a job because the entire,
06:49:08.860
like, the three days we were talking, I was working the whole time and going to the gym and he was just
06:49:14.100
like, oh yeah, I just got done playing video games. Oh no. And I was like, oh, I got done at work and
06:49:19.340
at the gym. So. I mean, it's, it's good for you, I guess, that you became aware of some of this stuff.
06:49:25.900
I would have maybe verified it though. I mean. I just didn't want to risk it because I trust his
06:49:30.540
uncle. I don't think he would love him. Do you know the uncle? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's, um, he's our
06:49:34.700
neighbor. Yeah. Neighbor when we first moved here for a very long time. I see. Very protective over my
06:49:40.120
family. Yeah. Is the, was he Christian, the guy who you were dating or whatever?
06:49:45.100
Um, no, I don't know. I don't think so. You're like, you're Christian waiting until, you're waiting
06:49:50.300
until marriage, right? Yes. So why go on a date with a guy who you don't even, isn't that important
06:49:57.260
that the guy be Christian? Is that not what a date is for to find out? Well, did you guys talk at the
06:50:03.780
party? A little bit. Like, Hey, just curious. Are you Christian? I don't know. To be honest, if he was
06:50:09.840
Christian, I don't think he would be involved. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I said something, I was like,
06:50:15.640
oh yeah, like leaving room for God. And he was like, well, obviously. And it was just,
06:50:19.560
yeah, it was fun for the three days I was talking to him. That's okay. Did not want to risk it.
06:50:26.440
Yeah. Well, um, honestly though, like for your sake, just to save yourself time. I know sometimes
06:50:37.940
people say, Oh, the day it's just to get to know the person. I think it's fair. You can ask a couple
06:50:42.740
vetting questions before you meet a person for a date. In your case, it's probably a deal breaker
06:50:48.280
if the guy's not Christian. Oh yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Just be like, Hey, just curious. Um, are you
06:50:52.480
religious? Are you Christian? Yeah. Just that for moving forward. Just ask if the guy,
06:50:57.180
Oh yes. Yeah. I don't think that's weird to just be like, I wouldn't say like, I regret it
06:51:02.300
necessarily, but I probably wouldn't go and do that. First kiss too. But he was very respectful.
06:51:09.400
He was very, very respectful. It came out of absolute left field. I was like, but yeah,
06:51:14.680
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Let's do a couple of quick announcements. Uh, $69 TTS. If you want, get them in guys. We're going to go
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get some merch shopped at whatever.com. Uh, Twitch, pull up the other ones.
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25 Eric thing for the one. What the fuck? He also talks some shit too. Oh, thank you, man. Appreciate
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it. Uh, let's see here. All right. Um, Sophia, you also write how ridiculous it all seems. You have
06:52:36.120
no experience, but strong feelings about dating, I'm assuming. Okay. What's ridiculous. Um, oh,
06:52:44.040
I just like talked to my friend because she's very much in the dating scene and we're just,
06:52:49.000
we're talking about something and she's like, Oh, love bombing this. Um, like the three month rule
06:52:54.480
dad and like all this stuff. And I don't know, call me old fashioned or whatever, but it all just
06:52:59.620
seems like retarded as hell. And it's just like, let's go back. Yes. I just like, yep. I want to
06:53:05.380
find my husband, but like, I want to like do it. I don't know. It just seems too much to all the
06:53:11.200
games. They're ridiculous. It's so stupid. There's all these rules. There's all these texting rules.
06:53:16.000
I don't do any of that. I'm just, there's all these rules. Like I won't do a guy's laundry.
06:53:22.060
These women are playing these games. I won't do his laundry. The first time I come over.
06:53:28.520
I won't do it the first time I come over. I didn't say I won't do it at all.
06:53:32.000
You're such a game player. It's not games. If anything, you're the game player. You're like
06:53:36.660
testing Jake's like, Oh, is she going to do my laundry when she comes over the first,
06:53:40.800
the first time? Gotta stress that. I don't think it's a test. Do you think he's normal?
06:53:48.500
Who? Me? Yeah. Normal? Like by what standard? I mean, out of, out of all the, of the people
06:53:55.060
that I know, Brian is not. He's normal. She says I'm abnormal. A little, a little. I said
06:54:02.060
a little. Cause I've never known a guy that wants bowing. Yeah, but what is normal? So
06:54:06.400
normal is like high standards. Like what is the normal thing happening in dating? It's
06:54:11.700
basically like, I think, yeah, you're in the wrong country, dude. Women just like, like
06:54:16.420
men and women just like being in situationships and fucking a bunch of people. Like that's
06:54:20.580
kind of normal. Fuck normal. No, it's, it's absolutely ridiculous. I agree. I've never
06:54:26.060
been in a situationship. I've never been in, in those things. I've also never played
06:54:30.600
dating games. You've had a few one night stands, but like if that's normal. When I was young,
06:54:34.720
okay, when I was young. Yeah, that's normal. It is normal. No, it is normal now, but okay,
06:54:40.940
but, but, but to, to expect a bow and to expect laundry on a first time over. Yeah. Wild. You
06:54:50.760
belong in Japan. You're degrading. You degrade these men. No, it's wild. You degrade. They're
06:54:57.180
a wallet to you. They're, these men are an ATM to you. Absolutely not. He should pay on a first
06:55:03.020
date. That doesn't mean he's an ATM. Brian, you want, um, like an old fashioned girlfriend,
06:55:08.520
but you don't want to get married. Well, yeah. Oh yeah. I kind of need to know that because I'm
06:55:13.660
still not married and I think the reason is the same you have. So tell me why. What do you
06:55:20.400
mean? Why? Uh, I don't believe in marriage. Why? Married. Why do you do that? And why do you
06:55:25.960
do it a little? You claim to be traditional, but then refuse to get married. Hold on. Hold on.
06:55:30.580
Actually, I don't really make that claim ever. I don't think I've ever said. You was just for
06:55:34.980
talking about traditional roles. So I believe. Husband and wife. So I believe that, that when
06:55:41.640
we're talking about traditional, that this is, I, this word gets used in other ways, but I believe
06:55:47.700
it's a spectrum that might sound stupid or whatever, but I think most people are not fully
06:55:52.480
going to, I don't think it's like you either are or you aren't. I think there's some degree
06:55:56.700
of a spectrum to being traditional. In this case, I think I lean more towards traditional
06:56:03.540
in some degrees, but as it relates to marriage, you're right. I'm not traditional on that.
06:56:10.040
So you're not religious. No, I'm agnostic. Although, although I'm pro Christianity.
06:56:17.120
Oh. But if you find the girl you really love and she wants to get married. And? You still
06:56:24.300
don't want to get married. No. Not even for the perfect girl. Right. Because I'm a girl
06:56:29.880
that really wants like the. People are imperfect though. But why? Why what? Why do you not
06:56:37.220
want to get married? Why do you not want to get married? Oh yeah, sure. So there's a whole
06:56:40.960
bunch of reasons. I think that. It used to be like that. I think so marriage in the breakdown,
06:56:48.380
the instance of a breakdown of a marriage when you're getting divorced, the state, the government
06:56:53.760
becomes involved. I'm not a big fan of, I'm not a big fan of the government meddling and trifling
06:57:05.960
in the private relationship affairs, uh, of people. So the government says, well, you know
06:57:14.820
what? You've been with this woman for this long and, uh, you make this much money. She
06:57:20.320
makes this much money. You need to pay her, uh, while she's fucking other men, you need
06:57:24.940
to pay her, uh, $10,000 a month for the next five years. Fuck that. No government is going
06:57:31.620
to tell me I owe a woman who's no longer fucking me money. Fuck that shit. You think I'm going
06:57:39.900
to give, I'm going to, but the government's going to tell me to pay spousal support, to
06:57:45.820
pay alimony to a woman who isn't fucking me and is fucking another guy. Fuck out of here
06:57:53.080
with that fucking bullshit. That's some fucking bullshit. Can you not do that if you have a
06:57:59.240
prenup? I just want to tell you. Prenups get challenged. Prenups, uh, look, I'm not a lawyer.
06:58:05.640
Prenups do get challenged. I think prenups can't always be protective. Uh, I, I'm not sure exactly
06:58:15.620
if it can completely, uh, I don't know if prenups can fully, uh, I don't know. They protect everything
06:58:25.140
prior to your union. Yeah. I don't know if you can just like in a prenup, can you actually, uh,
06:58:32.200
say no, even if we've been dating for 10 years, I don't have to pay you alimony. I don't know if
06:58:37.640
that's a thing you can do in a prenup. I think it's the assets you had prior to the marriage can be
06:58:43.880
protected. Anything generated during it, I don't think can really be addressed. I don't think a
06:58:51.420
prenup can supersede state law. I, I'm not a lawyer. I don't know. In any case, uh, divorce is fucking
06:58:58.240
terrible for the breadwinner, whether you're the woman or the man, uh, but probably a bit worse for
06:59:03.520
the men. So yeah, there, there, there's that. Um, I understand that because Dr. Phil said, well,
06:59:09.740
actually he said, you don't divorce the same person that you marry. And I thought that was
06:59:15.220
like really smart, but let's say, can you get married in a church without getting married
06:59:20.460
like for the government? And there wouldn't be any ramifications legally. Sure. I don't care.
06:59:25.980
So although I do think like blowing like tens of thousands of dollars on marriage is kind of
06:59:32.660
stupid. It doesn't have to be my one across four grand. So I mean, still for 4,000 for, for,
06:59:39.480
for a girl that you have, that 4,000 for you. That's a lot of money. What? That's a lot of
06:59:45.500
money. It was, it was, I spent a lot of money. That's a lot of money. That's nothing for a
06:59:49.620
celebration. It was at the time. I wouldn't say that's nothing for a marriage, for a wedding,
06:59:53.100
for a wedding. I get that, but some, are you guys paycheck to paycheck? Yes. The $4,000 is a
07:00:01.320
fuck ton of money for paycheck to paycheck. And back then I met, we made nothing, but where
07:00:06.840
do you live again? Um, upstate New York. How much do you pay in rent per month? I have
07:00:11.120
a mortgage. And how much you pay for the mortgage? Including escrowed in is a thousand. So that's
07:00:16.020
really great. That's four months of her mortgage payment down the drain. Here's my backyard.
07:00:25.680
Here, check. Here's my backyard. Stand motherfuckers. But for a lot of girls, it's like, I agree.
07:00:31.620
Wait, wait, wait, wait. The girl who doesn't, whoa, whoa, whoa. Did you guys catch that? Hold
07:00:35.780
on. The girl that doesn't work. The girl who doesn't care about money just said $4,000 isn't
07:00:43.260
a lot of money. No, not for, not for a wedding. $4,000? We did have over. For somebody who's
07:00:50.200
paycheck to paycheck, 4,000, and that's a lot of people in the United States, is a lot
07:00:54.900
of money. We had over a hundred people too. Wow. So it was really, it was like probably
07:00:59.980
the food, but we, it was a lot of fun. It was so much fun. All I'm saying is I used to
07:01:05.200
work in a banquet. I used to work, I used to work at a hotel and the weddings were upwards
07:01:10.700
of a hundred thousand dollars. So when I think 4,000 and I just, and I've been to a lot of
07:01:17.340
weddings that are expensive. Congrats, you're at the Ritz Carlton or whatever. That's true.
07:01:19.900
Weddings are expensive, but it's a waste of money. It is. It is. It's a huge waste of money.
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It's a little ghost dream. One of my best friends just got married and she. Grandma can sit on
07:01:30.480
the fucking grass. Grandma can sit on the grass. I am so frugal. No, no, no. When I, I am,
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I am very, very frugal. So I agree. And I would never spend over 20 grand on a, on one day
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of my life ever, but I will tell you, I mean, that's, it's not a lot. Okay. So back to your
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question, you were saying, Oh Brian, you don't want to get married. Why? I don't think you
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should sign a contract that sucks. I don't think you should sign a contract where somebody
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is rewarded for breaking it. Women, when they do break the marriage contract, when they do
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initiate divorces, by the way, 80% of divorces are initiated by women. Women are rewarded
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for this. So. You mean, if you're saying when, like, like it's inevitable. No, no, no. When
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I say when, I mean, when it, when it happens, when it can happen, when it does happen. If
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it happens. I think like over 50% of people get divorced. I know. It's sad. It's horrible.
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No, I used to be like you when, yeah, when I was a little younger, I, I, I hated marriage
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and I thought it was a scam. Um, and it is kind of a scam, but I was going to tell you
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that alimony is still paid when you have children with somebody, regardless of marriage. So you
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were, and I was going to ask you, you wouldn't want to pay your spouse alimony for the children
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or child support. Child support's different. Child support. I think that, uh, I think there
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are compelling arguments for, for child support. Although I think that in many jurisdictions,
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like if you're a high earner as a guy, that child support, like the, the money you, the
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money as it relates to child support is not being paid for child, uh, not, excuse me, not
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being spent on child support. So I think, you know, in the same way with snap benefits, food
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benefits, you can all like you take your snap card or whatever to, uh, to a grocery store.
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You can't buy. Um, I don't know if you take it to a CVS, you can buy, I know you probably
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shouldn't shop for food. That's CVS, but you can go to CVS and buy like cookies with your
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snap thing. Sure. There's a debate over whether people should be whatever. Um, but you can't
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like go and buy, I don't know what, um, crutches or some shit, or I don't know what you can't
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buy. Like, I don't know. Maybe they sell, don't they sell, maybe they sell like a pullout
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chair at CVS. You can't buy a pullout chair with your food benefits. There should be something
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like that with child support. They can only spend the money on something that's child support
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related, probably a little more complicated than food. But, um, I do think that there's
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some abuses of the child support system. I think that there should be caps. So if you're
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a high earner, you shouldn't be paying 10,000, $20,000 in child support. That's ridiculous.
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Uh, alimony, get the fuck out of here. It's 2025. Women have full access to the workforce. Women
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can work. Uh, no, maybe there's an argument that can be made if she, it should be proven
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though, that like, if, if I'm, if you're a guy who makes $5 million a year and your wife
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has a college degree, she can probably enter the workforce within a reasonable period of
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time. Maybe there's some argument. Okay. She's, you've been married to her for 20 years
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and she completely, she didn't work at all. And she dropped out of college to have kids
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with you. Okay. You can support her for a period of time. I'm willing to make some compromise
07:05:11.500
three years, max. It should be circumstantial three years, but you've been married. I think
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in most jurisdictions, you've been married for 20 years. That's lifetime alimony.
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Yeah, I know my mom, my mom got it. My mom was married for 20 years and now for the last
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20 years, my dad's been paying her. Yeah. And I have been telling him to, yeah. To do
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what? What, what can he do? He's being forced. Yeah. I mean, that's bad. There are some things.
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I don't think we have it, but yeah. Those, but you have to pay. Well, I, I, in some European,
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European countries, they're way, they're not nearly as retarded as the U S is when it comes
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to child support. Yeah. California is fucked. Child support, alimony, all this shit. But
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I still think divorcing is too easy. I agree. In many ways. I agree. But I don't know. Look,
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I think, um, I don't think you mentioned prenups. I don't think a prenup is going to save a man
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if the woman is motivated enough. Women, um, women will, you know, the, even if the woman
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has good intentions, you step into a lawyer's office. Lawyers see money. They just care
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about money. They want to make, and I don't know how it works. Maybe the lawyers get some
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sort of percentage of the settlement from the divorce, whatever. And they, they want
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to keep it in court. They want to, they want the billable hours. So you could be a, a dutiful
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Christian woman. You step foot in that lawyer's office. They will turn everything. The lawyer.
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He's not, he's not, he's not approaching things. Yeah. He's, he's gonna, he's gonna get as much as
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he possibly can for his client. In fact, I think he has some legal obligation to represent his client
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to the best of his ability and get the best possible outcome money for his client. Yeah,
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that's right. He has, I think he has a legal duty to do this yet. You need to put, do your best
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effort or whatever as an attorney. You can't just be like, no, you know, we should do. I mean,
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obviously your client has final say, but lawyers are very convincing lawyers. That's their whole job
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to argue. So what would be your chess move? If you will find a girl you're together, like
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never get married eight years. And you know, she wants to get married. What will you do? I mean,
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sit down and have something else on the table. Don't get it. Don't get it twisted. I can stay with a
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woman for my entire life and take care of her. And we can have kids, but marriage is out of the
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picture. Because you're afraid of divorce. It's not that I'm afraid. For fear of divorce. That is
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the only reason that you gave us. Hold on. Hold on. I don't understand. I get it, but
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I'm afraid. But like, do you get engaged? Do you go to the church and have something? Do you have a
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wedding? What are you bringing to the table on that point for her not to lose the dream of it?
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So I don't really gamble. Um, does that, does that make me like, I'm afraid? Am I afraid to lose
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money? Because I don't gamble? Yes. Because you're doing a smart move. Or, or is it not about fear?
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Is it about looking, looking at the chessboard? Or I guess, I don't know, whatever your blackjack or
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poker or whatever, looking at it and being like, this isn't a good bet to make. It's a warranted fear,
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but it is, it is a fear of divorce. Okay, sure. I'll grant it. So, okay, cool. I'm scared of being
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divorced. Oh, no. Well, that's, that's why you aren't going to join in the union. Men should
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rightfully have some reservations and some concerns. Yeah, be more discerning of who they're getting
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with. That's really the problem. Well, it's not just that. You divorce a different person that you
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marry. It mostly, it's true. Do you think, do you think most people, when they, by the
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way, divorce rate is what? 80% or some shit? I don't know. Or 50%, sorry, 50%. Do you
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think most people on their wedding day think I'm going to divorce this person? I'm going
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to be divorced? No. Okay. 50% of marriages end in divorce. So discernment. I mean, if a
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girl is bowing for you and doing those things for you, maybe you shouldn't break up with
07:09:48.180
her. Well, break up with her if she's, if things are going well, sure. But if she wants the marriage,
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she wants the wedding, are you going to like come to the middle of that and offer like to
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have the wedding or getting engaged or going to the church, but not just getting married?
07:10:08.600
There could be some compromise. There could be a compromise where it's like, just like,
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I don't know, she wants to do the ceremony so long as there's nothing legally binding there.
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I guess I'm okay with the ceremony. I still think it's a bit of a waste of money, depending
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on how much you spend. If it's a reasonable affair, I suppose I'd be open to it, but I'd
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be curious if there's any legal liability to even doing the ceremony. I don't know.
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I don't know if there's not, let's just, if we grant that there's no legal liability whatsoever,
07:10:46.200
just doing the ceremony. Sure. I suppose I'm okay with it. I'm not going to spend a hundred
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thousand dollars on the wedding though. Fuck that. Yeah. I'll spend, you know, a reason,
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what I'd think is a reasonable amount, but I'm not, no, that money can be better spent elsewhere.
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Doesn't the government in the United States, uh, deem you like legally married after eight years or
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seven years of, uh, there's common marriage, but it depends on the state. In New York, they don't have
07:11:15.480
it. In California. I don't believe there's common law marriage. Really? Yeah. So it's basically,
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you've been living together. You guys have been maybe portraying yourself as married or I don't
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know. Yeah. Then some weird, funky common law marriage shit. That's stupid too. Fuck that shit.
07:11:32.300
That should be abolished. Fuck, fuck common law marriage. It, that should only be a thing if,
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Hey, we're agreeing to get married. You get a tax break for all that. I don't give a fuck.
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Divorce. The risk reward is all fucked up. Only if you're dating somebody who's going to take you
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at the very beginning of the show. Well, it took us a long time. Um, going around the table,
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starting with you, Maria, uh, how many relationships have you been in? About four or five, uh, of the four
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or five, how many of them did you initiate the breakup? I think all five, all five. How many
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relationships have you been in three? How many of those did you end? Two, two of the three. How
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many relationships have you been in two? How many of those did you end? None. They broke up with you.
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Okay. Uh, how many relationships have you been in? Like the real, like a boyfriend. Sorry, a boyfriend.
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Um, not just dating. Six months plus. Okay. Um, I guess one out of two. One out of two. Okay.
07:12:45.120
Well, two relationships. Did you end them? Well, one I'm still in and the first one, no.
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Um, of the ones you ended. Okay. Uh, what about you? Um, five people and three of them broke up
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with me. So I ended with two. And then, well, yeah. Women overwhelmingly end relationships. Women
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overwhelmingly initiate divorces. But I think it's a bad deal for men. It's a bad deal for men. I agree.
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I agree. Like, tell me if I'm wrong, but I feel like in a relationship, a guy doesn't kind of see
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or realize when things are going to shit before the relationship has ended. Like before everything
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around him will change in his head, even though you go home and you argue every day, you're still
07:13:37.240
in the relationship and nothing is kind of changed. But a girl goes through the breakup for months before
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he decides to leave. Uh, well, I guess that's a failure of communication, perhaps on both their
07:13:49.600
parts, but so women, I mean, okay. Women initiate the majority of divorces. I think, um, men will
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never, they very rarely, to be honest, they'll very rarely ever initiate a breakup or a divorce,
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but when they are not interested in you anymore, they will also make that very, very clear through
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their, so we're kind of pushed into the divorce. You get distant, you stop trying. Sure. I, I think
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that's fair to say that there are times where like men will just, uh, it's easier. We'll kind of
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create the opportunity for the woman to end the relationship. I, I think that that's a phenomenon,
07:14:30.880
but in any case, um, even if this lowers the breakdown to, uh, 60% of the time, the woman
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is genuinely the initiator, not like the guys just being a kind of a dickhead or whatever.
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It's still not a good deal. How long has the percentage been that high? Because in my head,
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it's because we have the social media and we have this and that, and women seem to just look around
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and want something else, even though we're not grateful about things anymore. Yeah. Like we think
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that it was, it's too easy. It's too easy to go out and date, too easy to, yeah, find somebody who
07:15:08.800
you think will appreciate you more. It's, you ask a woman or a man nowadays, like what was the woman's
07:15:14.800
place 60 years ago? And they will be like, oh, it was terrible. It was between a fist and a oven.
07:15:22.360
But in reality, a fist, you don't have that saying. Okay. We have a saying like that.
07:15:29.860
A woman's place is between a fist and a oven. It's like badly said, but yeah, uh, we don't realize
07:15:39.140
that women didn't vote or do things like that then because we, we had so much more things to do.
07:15:47.100
It wasn't so important to us and we weren't still suppressed. We just had different value
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and we kind of forget to be grateful for the guy that thinks guys did.
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I have two friends going through really nasty divorces and both times it was very sudden and
07:16:06.500
it was very abrupt, very random. And the woman did initiate and it got nasty really fast.
07:16:12.360
Brian, if you didn't know these statistics, if you didn't know how many divorces were happening
07:16:17.700
and you didn't have that information, you might think differently about marriage.
07:16:24.780
If you had no idea that the numbers, I mean, regardless of the numbers, the financial risk
07:16:30.400
still exists. Even if it's lower, even if 40% of marriages end in divorce, 30% or 20%,
07:16:37.400
it still exists. The risk is still there. So if you could have a prenup that will save you from that
07:16:44.140
or protect you from that, you would do it from what's prior. You could have a prenup that will
07:16:49.560
protect you later on. Okay. Yes. And I, in a hypothetical world where a woman would never
07:16:54.880
divorce me, would I get married? Sure. Like she would just never divorce. I get sure, but that kind
07:17:03.160
of defeats that's kind of the goal. Yeah. So like in a hypothetical world where a prenup can fully
07:17:09.660
protect my finances in the same way as if we weren't married and we were just, she was just my
07:17:17.240
girlfriend. Sure. I'll get married. So yeah. So if you could trust that the breakup would be
07:17:25.400
perfect. That's like, but that's like asking me, Hey Brian, you see that ugly girl? If she was
07:17:31.740
really beautiful, would you fuck her? I mean, if they like abolished alimony rules, they could
07:17:37.080
abolish alimony rules. Yeah, that's true. We could vote on it. Potentially. I don't think I
07:17:42.600
practically never going to happen because of money, but that would be great. Um, guys, we're going to
07:17:48.020
lower the TTS here as we're trying to get this, uh, TTS, $30 TTS, $30 TTS roast session. If you
07:17:55.820
want, if you have a Q and a, you know, you have a question you want to ask $30 TTS, it should be
07:18:01.580
all changed. Uh, there it is guys. If you want to get it in $30 TTS also need to do that there.
07:18:07.800
I mean the, I think the big thing you also, even if you're like more conservative, you're a
07:18:13.200
Christian, um, you're more traditional, hold on, let me get this pulled up. All right. $30
07:18:20.420
TTS. I think one of the big things, even like Christian people or traditional people, trad
07:18:27.100
cons, whatever they feel failed to realize is that the state presides over the marriage,
07:18:34.720
not God, not the Bible, not your biblical values. When the woman is unhappy, even if she's a
07:18:42.600
Christian, even if she's a virgin, all the, you know, all the factors that could make the
07:18:47.520
likelihood of the marriage going the distance, when the woman is unhappy, she will go to the
07:18:54.120
state. She won't go to God. She won't go to her priest or pastor or church. She goes, she'll have
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to, she has to go to the state eventually. If she, if she's dead set on the divorce, maybe she,
07:19:06.320
Hey, pastor, should I, uh, blah, blah, blah. Should I get a divorce?
07:19:12.580
Well, no, the, I mean, I mean, unless you're Catholic, I believe Catholics, you, uh, marriage
07:19:22.320
is indissoluble if you're Catholic. Although, I mean, I think there's some, like if the man's
07:19:29.020
abusive, like beating her or whatever, like on the infidelity, can you divorce if you're
07:19:38.760
I don't know about Catholic, but it says in the Bible that you can like, can what you
07:19:46.240
can leave your spouse if they have an affair. It's like one of the only, Oh, if you have
07:19:50.300
an affair, I thought you meant just in general, my understanding, at least for, I don't know
07:19:55.320
for the other Christian denominations. I don't know. I've heard some stuff about like defrauding,
07:19:59.180
like if you married somebody and they promised to give you a baby and all this stuff.
07:20:02.720
Well, here, let me ask this. Um, you marry a guy, you marry a guy and maybe, uh, let's say
07:20:11.260
you don't have kids yet. You marry, uh, it could go either. Let's do one at a time. You marry
07:20:16.940
a guy, he treats you well. Uh, there's no, no abuse. He he's kind. He treats you well.
07:20:25.320
Um, no, no abuse of any kind, but you're just, you fall out of love. You're vaguely unhappy.
07:20:42.640
Um, there'd be a conversation about it first. I mean, there would be, I would try therapy,
07:20:48.740
try to work it out, but you do marriage counseling. You're still, he's not abusing you. He's still
07:20:54.700
treating you well. He goes to the marriage counseling. You've just fallen out of love.
07:21:00.040
You're, you're vaguely unhappy. Does it warrant divorce?
07:21:12.740
I mean, if I don't want to stay with someone, I'm not going to.
07:21:16.100
If he wants to stay with me, he's still in love with me. So I need to do the work and fall
07:21:20.620
back in love with him. Okay. What about you? Um, absolutely no divorce. Um, my mom always
07:21:26.480
said that when you get into marriage, you have to close one eye for the sake of the children.
07:21:31.720
I completely agree. Absolutely. No divorce completely against that. Um, I come from a
07:21:37.540
divorced family and it tore us apart. So I would never do that to mine.
07:21:42.520
No, no, no, no. Okay. Pretty reasonable. Um, in any case though, uh, you know, it's funny. Uh,
07:21:53.100
you can do all the right things. You can do the trad thing. There's this, uh, there's this guy named
07:21:58.720
Steven Crowder. He's a big conservative commentator pundit. And he, my understanding is he married his
07:22:08.220
wife. They were both virgins, both Christian, waited until marriage. Um, this woman, you, you think all
07:22:18.240
the, all the, uh, the, the perfect, everything's perfect, right? She divorced him. She divorced him.
07:22:26.800
She tried to ruin his life. She tried to ruin his reputation. Um, she leaked, she leaked a,
07:22:35.980
from my perspective, a fair, uh, you know, some people might say the tone wasn't the best,
07:22:43.780
a fairly, a marital dispute. They were having an argument. He wasn't, he was sitting on a couch.
07:22:53.720
He wasn't hitting her. He wasn't, you know, verbally abusive or anything, but they were having an
07:23:01.140
argument as people do. We've all had arguments here. I'm sure none of us have been fully
07:23:05.740
perfect. Uh, when we've had a disagreement with a boyfriend or girlfriend or whatever.
07:23:12.100
Did they have children? Yes. They had what? Two, three kids or something.
07:23:17.360
Virgin, both of them virgins. She, she divorces him, not just divorces him, but makes it a very,
07:23:24.320
very public affair. She leaks her and her lawyers leak this again. He, he wasn't hitting her. It was
07:23:31.980
like a argument. Uh, they were having an argument and you try to do the trad thing. You, you virgin,
07:23:43.560
wait till marriage. And, uh, but that's, that's an outlier for that situation though. Perhaps the
07:23:50.640
vast, it's like less than 10% of people who wait till marriage together. They're Christian praying
07:23:57.380
every day. It's like less than 10% of them get divorced. Yeah, that's true. But I mean,
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like for other situations, that's very common, but for their specific situation, that's just very
07:24:07.860
rare. Well, I don't know how rare divorce is, but, um, with Christians, with Christians, like genuine
07:24:14.620
Christians, it's very, very, very low. I don't know what the stats are, but, um, where were they
07:24:19.740
from? I don't know. Christina donated $29 and 99 cents. Items, one total $29 and 99 cents. MSG
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07:24:37.020
Ooh, Sweden. Chaotic Mitch donated $30. Marriage ends in either divorce or death. Both are not good
07:24:43.660
outcomes for men. Yeah. A lot of times men will die after their like wives die, not to,
07:24:49.740
soon after, you know, um, if they're old. Yeah. I just don't see the benefit. Like final thing on
07:24:58.180
the marriage thing. I can tell you my reasons for not wanting to get married. Can you give me
07:25:04.180
like a compelling reason why I should get married or men should get married?
07:25:11.700
I think it holds you accountable. Yeah. You know, I know it's seen as a negative thing,
07:25:16.560
this whole prenup, but I, um, I was actually having a talk about this with, um, Noah, but,
07:25:21.980
um, it, cause he believes the same thing. He doesn't believe in marriage. W, Noah. We have
07:25:27.000
the same thing. W, Noah. Um, stick to your guns, Noah. Go ahead. Marry this girl. Um, it's more for
07:25:34.580
safety. Um, I know that we were talking about if someone were to, um, commit adultery,
07:25:40.960
how would you figure that out? How would you split everything and whatever you made during the
07:25:46.720
marriage, especially if you're a growing couple? Um, obviously, uh, when you, before you sign a
07:25:52.920
prenup, you have to read it, you have to agree with it. Um, and usually both lawyers, I believe,
07:25:58.220
are in contact to make sure that everyone's getting a fair share. But, um, I think if you
07:26:03.320
think about it more as safety rather than, oh, this is, uh, the other person. Safety for who?
07:26:11.620
Safety for each other. How, how is it safe for me if I'm the breadwinner? Endless love.
07:26:19.660
I actually think, I actually think that the relationship is at greater risk of ending
07:26:25.640
in a marriage. Why? I'll tell you why. Incentive. What's an incentive? Incentive. If, uh, vaguely
07:26:35.040
unhappy, oh, oh, let me just get a consult with an attorney. If I leave him, I get this much?
07:26:45.540
Ooh, that starts to sound, oh, but if she's just my girlfriend, I leave him and I'm back to the
07:26:53.560
streets. She belongs to the streets. Not that I would, I would date a street chick. I know how much
07:26:59.040
of a value money has, but still, I hate the idea of arguing for money. So in my opinion, to get
07:27:07.240
married, it's like with the child support. I never wanted it because I didn't want our
07:27:13.600
connection to be bad because of it. Your relationship would be straight.
07:27:17.520
But I think that that's, uh, I think that's wonderful of you to do. In fact, even if you,
07:27:24.580
you know, you asked him to help you financially, I don't think that that would be wrong. Um, I mean,
07:27:30.220
but I don't think a lot of women in your position do what you did.
07:27:34.680
Yeah, I know. And I hate it. It's terrible. People argue for a little bit of money, just
07:27:39.420
for, for every woman like you, there's a hundred women, a hundred thousand. There's a hundred women
07:27:45.460
who are going to go to the, the, the court. They're going to, and I honestly, I, I agree with
07:27:54.000
you. That creates a lot of like, we couldn't, we couldn't just talk about this. You want to go to
07:28:00.140
the law. You want to go to the court. We couldn't come to an arrangement. You want to bring it there.
07:28:05.420
I have no idea. That's going to create, at least from the guy's perspective, like how can you bring
07:28:10.800
life into this world with someone and afterwards argue about it just because of money that I don't
07:28:16.440
get? Well, you're a gem because I can tell you a lot of women who find themselves, whether they
07:28:22.160
become single mothers, they get pregnant and the guy doesn't, they, they don't just let the guy off
07:28:28.380
the hook. Oh, the scary part is a lot of women don't let men off the hook. They're very happy.
07:28:35.420
They're entitled. They're entitled. They're very happy to go to the court system and then force the
07:28:40.460
man to pay child support. There's actually even men like that. And that's actually a scary one.
07:28:46.020
It, it, it, it does happen to women, but it's very rare. It's very rare. And I do think it is the
07:28:53.000
case that, uh, even if it were to be like, you know, we started seeing women, you know, they were
07:29:00.580
earning more than, well, they are in some ways, but if, if women just were out earning the, the men,
07:29:05.620
I think men just intrinsically would be less inclined to like want to claw money from women.
07:29:14.400
I'm not saying, I'm not saying it doesn't happen. There's definitely men. It happened with Halle Berry.
07:29:18.880
She's paying fucking $10,000 a month to, to her, uh, baby daddy. I don't think they were ever,
07:29:25.700
ever married. Um, Brittany Spears paying $40,000 a month to Kevin Federline. Uh, they have two kids
07:29:33.660
or three kids or whatever. Um, there's definitely be a limit. I think men though, over overwhelmingly,
07:29:41.440
even if the man like, Oh, she makes a lot of money. You as the guy don't, I think men will be less
07:29:48.660
likely to seek that out. I think it's because of pride. So it's scary to know that women doesn't
07:29:56.500
have that. It could be pride. And I think, uh, there's some cultural social dynamics there too.
07:30:02.260
But, um, I guess trying to think if there's anything else, the marriage thing, um, well,
07:30:10.540
you think ending, um, marriage would hold both sides more accountable if there was no such thing
07:30:16.300
as marriage. Do you think there would be far less separation? Well, to your point, you, you mentioned
07:30:20.900
safety. Yes. Why is it safe? Cause my question was, look, I can tell you, here's, here's all the
07:30:27.340
reasons. I don't want to get married. Give me reasons why I should. I can still, but I can still
07:30:36.440
love a woman. I can still spend the rest of my life with a woman. I can have kids with a woman,
07:30:41.200
but she has to give up the dream of being married, but also like, yeah, it is accountability.
07:30:46.900
But, but what do I get again? The question is when you're in a relationship, selfish, the other one
07:30:53.120
being happy makes you happy. Yes, exactly. And what the way he's talking is like a divorced lady,
07:30:58.800
selfish or a lady that initiates. Cause I've been in a relationship, like every time you want to do
07:31:04.500
something, the other one wants to argue just so that if you go somewhere, you're going to be sad or
07:31:09.800
mad. But why, why would there be a burden for, for a man to appease the whims of the girl? Why can't
07:31:19.560
she appease my whims? But if she does that in every other way, she commits to you, she's
07:31:26.780
submissive, but her dream is to wear that white dress, have that engagement dream, be the princess
07:31:35.280
for a day. I feel like when you find the woman of your like genuine dreams, that might change a
07:31:40.380
little, especially if she wants marriage. Cause I know I've been very opposed to many ideas before,
07:31:45.540
you know, meeting certain people, friends, whatever. And when I genuinely appreciated them,
07:31:50.920
they changed. So, but that's just what I think. Maybe you just haven't met somebody where you're
07:31:57.960
really willing to do everything. I mean, I've, I've dated great women. I've, even if I met a great
07:32:03.960
woman, this, this marriage thing is really a non, I mean, the only scenario in which I actually would
07:32:09.400
consider getting married is, and I don't really care about a woman's career or success though,
07:32:15.540
and I think I'm in terms of a woman's income, she'd have to be top 1% for her to earn more than
07:32:22.100
me. Well, yeah, she would have to be the only instance where it would ever make sense is if
07:32:28.820
she earned just as much or more than, than I did. And even then, even if you guys do earn the same
07:32:35.500
amount, divorces can, it can be very messy. It can still be very messy financially. You have to
07:32:40.460
untangle everything. Lawyers get involved. Even if you guys both make the same amount of money.
07:32:46.780
Can you get divorced without lawyers? You can, I guess, but it's a complicated,
07:32:51.380
most people are not legally competent, I guess. So, um, typically you have lawyers handle that
07:32:59.120
and divorces are expensive. Lawyers are expensive. So if she's a billionaire,
07:33:05.960
oh, trust me, I want to marry her. Let's say you have kids together.
07:33:13.080
Yes, because the risk has been eliminated. How about when you're older?
07:33:17.020
My concern, my concern with marriage, I don't mind, uh, is the financial component of it.
07:33:23.820
The risk to me, she's, she makes 10, 10 M. She makes 20 M. She's a billionaire.
07:33:30.160
Maybe you shouldn't be with somebody who cares so much about money.
07:33:32.480
I'm getting down on one knee and I'm proposing. I'm getting, oh, I'm proposing. I'm the most
07:33:37.360
romantic proposal you've ever fucking seen. If she's a billionaire, trust me.
07:33:44.040
Well, I'm not going to divorce her. I'm like, I'm married to a billionaire.
07:33:52.780
Yes. If I'm married to a billionaire, sorry, I don't need a huckster.
07:33:56.160
I don't need a huckster for some TTS donos. I'm good.
07:34:01.200
Maybe I'll do this shit for fun every once in a while, but fuck, I actually not.
07:34:04.980
I was going to say, how would your, how would your life change if you went from today to
07:34:14.380
Hear that guys? He doesn't really, he doesn't really love you.
07:34:17.060
Why are you shaking your fucking, why are you shaking your head?
07:34:19.100
Isn't this like your passion? What you like to do?
07:34:23.340
You don't think a man has hobbies or things he would like to do?
07:34:26.100
What are your hobbies? How would your life change?
07:34:31.880
Yes. I would fully focus on getting back to that, uh, fully focus on fitness. I would
07:34:36.920
fully focus on, uh, recreation, travel. Uh, I'm pumping a couple of kids into her for
07:34:44.340
sure. Trust me. Actually, no, I want 10 kids. So I don't know if she's a 20 year old billionaire.
07:34:48.220
She's perma pregnant for the next 15 years. And you're going to be a stay at home dad.
07:34:53.360
Fuck it. I'll be a stay at home. If she's a billionaire, you're damn right. I'm going
07:34:56.860
to be a stay at home dad and I'm going to be the best stay at home dad ever.
07:35:07.400
Give me the fucking minivan. Dynasty, obviously.
07:35:10.340
Hold on. There's this, uh, so, so there's like a Bible verse, although I'm agnostic that,
07:35:17.840
that, that resonates with me. Uh, I'm going to fucking butcher it, but, uh, sons, I think
07:35:26.960
it's sons in a man's youth, but hold on. I'm a, okay. I'm pushing it a little bit here
07:35:30.620
with my age. Um, sons, Nick, can you find me the quote?
07:35:37.040
Wait. What is it? Uh, sons, uh, like arrows in the hands of a warrior are children born
07:35:46.580
in one's youth. Blessed is the man whose quiver is full of them. Wow. Blessed is the man whose
07:35:54.300
quiver is full, uh, the arrows sons. Yeah. Fuck it. Give me 10 kids, 10 kids. Yeah. Cause
07:36:05.120
look, you know, you gotta, I want at least two or three sons. Cause I want my son. Well,
07:36:11.940
I want my sons to have a brother, but maybe one of them's a fuck up. So I need a backup.
07:36:18.880
So I need three sons and then whatever, you know, the older to get, the more definitely
07:36:24.840
you will get girls. Well, there is something I heard, uh, men who are stressed out, it has
07:36:31.340
an impact on the sperm and it's more likely to be a girl if you're, that's why, that's
07:36:36.840
why like really like super, I think super masculine guys or, um, I'm not, I'm not saying
07:36:43.260
I'm like super masculine or whatever, but I'm saying, um, men who like have stressful jobs
07:36:48.240
or just stressed for whatever reason, they end up having a lot of daughters. And you see
07:36:55.420
that with like some of these like super high achieving men who are also probably stressed.
07:37:00.180
True. They end up having a lot of daughters. Also. They're cursed. Uh, guys who are players
07:37:06.020
always end up having daughters too. Cause they're cursed because they were fucking around.
07:37:11.940
I guess. Yeah. So you're going to be okay with a woman who gave you 10 kids. So you're also
07:37:18.440
okay with the fact that her looks will definitely change. You're still going to be grateful for that
07:37:25.120
and for the, she's my, uh, in this case, my billionaire wife. She's, she's the mother
07:37:31.420
of my children. How about if she's not a billionaire and you don't have to marry her?
07:37:35.640
Oh, they're going to love her. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She gave me children. It's okay. You're
07:37:40.800
got some loose skin around your belly. I don't care. Honestly, since having kids, like I've never
07:37:45.700
been, I'm the most comfortable I've ever been in my body. Like I like the way I look. I like
07:37:50.600
the way I feel. This belly gave me kids. I don't really care what anybody else thinks of
07:37:54.860
it. So, yeah, I mean, look, and if me personally, look, men and women have been having children
07:38:02.780
for thousands and thousands and thousands of years, longer than that. Wasn't an issue.
07:38:10.140
Yeah. But nowadays it seems to be, it's like, okay. Yes. Society's fucked. Culture's fucked. I get it.
07:38:15.560
Am I the only one who thinks that adults nowadays are just grown kids? Like we want Christmas
07:38:20.460
calendars. Probably a little bit. The advent calendars? Yeah. Like we're adults. There's
07:38:25.980
guys playing video games all the time. We don't want to take any responsibility about anything.
07:38:30.520
Yeah. We don't want to get a wife who's going to look different after having kids, but still
07:38:34.940
we want the kids if we want them. It feels like we live among grown kids. I just want to say
07:38:41.340
if there's any billionaire women watching this, call me, I guess. But, um, yeah, I'll let you
07:38:47.760
know if I ever see one. Yeah. Yeah. Shit. But it wouldn't be like, it wouldn't be some ploy
07:38:53.900
like, Oh, I'm going to marry her and then divorce her. You just want to enjoy them. I'll just
07:38:58.060
stay with her. Over money. Even if, even if she's horrible. No, of course she has to be a
07:39:03.340
good person. She has to be, she has to have the other traits I care about, but I'm actually
07:39:08.120
to be, to be honest, they can be overlooked. No, I'd be willing to, I would be willing for
07:39:13.100
a genuine billionaire woman. There's a couple of things I'm willing to, uh, settle on. Do
07:39:19.720
you know how many there are? Billionaire woman? First off, almost all of them are through divorce
07:39:25.460
or family. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. Would you do that one? Mackenzie Scott, Mackenzie Bezos,
07:39:30.880
whatever. Yeah. She's, she's still kind of a babe. I mean, she's like 50 or whatever.
07:39:34.740
Wait, would you do the one thing in the bedroom that you say you won't do? Oh, that's, uh,
07:39:39.300
sure. Why not? Billionaire. I don't think you understand how easy my life would be. I don't
07:39:46.860
think you guys understand how much a billion is. I do. Bill, like, I don't think you know,
07:39:52.040
I don't think you know, but, uh, what, what was, uh, what was I saying? No. I mean, look,
07:39:58.560
if I'd want some of the things that I care about to be in place, but am I willing to give a little
07:40:06.720
bit if she's a billionaire? Yeah. Oh yeah. If you don't, you lie. Yeah. Oh, okay. Um, I don't know
07:40:15.500
what's, uh, she has an any instead of an Audi labia. Like I only date women with Audis.
07:40:22.540
Well, if you like them like that, why are you so afraid of that? We don't have to talk
07:40:27.360
about it. Afraid of what? Going down on chicks. I know what you think. Okay. Nevermind. I'm
07:40:32.600
not, that's ridiculous. Derail the show anymore, please. Derail. About the Marys. Don't worry
07:40:37.600
about that. Wait, wait, wait, final thing. If she has like, uh, the, the smallest any ever,
07:40:43.340
but she's a billionaire. I'm taking the deal. I'm taking that deal. If she, uh, I don't know.
07:40:53.000
Uh, there's probably other things I can think of. I don't know. Tell you what, uh, do how about this?
07:41:01.200
Like looks wise. So, okay, here's my, here, I'll present the example. She's a 10, but she's broke
07:41:07.540
versus she's a seven, but she's a billionaire. I take the seven. I got to take the seven.
07:41:17.420
I feel like that's, that's a pretty reasonable. I take the seven. Yeah. Billionaire. Yeah. You
07:41:22.060
know? Yeah. What if she's like a five? Versus like a 10, but she's zero and I have to like
07:41:27.020
work for the rest of my life. Actually, you know, I'm doing pretty well. So shit. Do I take
07:41:34.260
the 10 a billion dollars? That's a lot. Yo chat. Let me ask the chat. Oh my God. Chat,
07:41:40.300
chat, chat. And you have to include how much you make in your response. Chat. Do you take
07:41:47.060
the broke dime piece or do you take the, the, the billionaire, but she's a seven? What's your
07:41:58.700
seven? I don't know. Uh, whatever it is for anybody. Uh, by the way, if you marry a billionaire,
07:42:06.360
you, you don't have to work as the man. Uh, here, Nick, put it on Twitch and then just pull
07:42:15.100
up the chat. It's probably might be actually whatever billionaire, uh, seven, seven, seven.
07:42:23.500
They take the seven billionaire, seven broke, seven, wait, broke seven. Somebody says broke.
07:42:31.460
So you take the broke seven. Okay. Uh, billionaire, billionaire. We found her a man.
07:42:38.320
Oh, uh, chat, just repeat. Not because you would be a seven, but because of logic. Go ahead. Pull
07:42:43.960
it up. Uh, uh, uh, repeat your answer. So you got, you take the seven billionaire over
07:42:52.340
the 10, uh, 10 broke key. Is it just a 10 in looks or they're perfect? Like to you, the
07:43:00.800
personality. Well, let's just say personality is the same for both. Oh, personality. Same
07:43:05.300
for both. Um, but the, the 10 looks, but broke seven bill. I I'm seeing a lot of sevens. Yeah.
07:43:15.320
Wow. I think the only time you make the trade is like, if you're already wealthy, if you're
07:43:19.940
already a wealthy guy, then you pick the 10. Look at that. Oh, these, uh, well, who's
07:43:26.540
more superficial? Someone's a billionaire than the rich woman or the hot woman. I don't
07:43:30.360
know. Um, seven is a really high number. Yeah. He says broke 10, boke 10. I got my
07:43:37.460
own loot. Yeah. If you're already rich, you probably, you take the 10. Yeah. Making 90
07:43:45.920
K. So yeah, the thing here, if you marry a woman who's a billionaire, you, you don't have
07:43:51.020
to work anymore. You're, you're, you're on the fucking yacht. You're on a yacht. You got
07:43:57.360
everything's taken care of anyways. Okay. Uh, final few things here. Um, hold on.
07:44:07.880
Sorry. I'm lending this, uh, the street, this thing takes forever to load.
07:44:13.060
Travis would two donated $30. Final call guys. Having been divorced, cheated on heart
07:44:18.560
ripped out, given up. I found new love. And we both agree. There's no need for marriage.
07:44:23.540
That's good. Congratulations. That's amazing news. Captain caveman 110 a donated $30. Thank
07:44:32.100
you, man. Ladies, if you're not going to give up to poon poon after you leave the marriage,
07:44:36.720
you're not entitled to half of anything I have. Oh, like imagine if there was like pussy
07:44:41.920
alimony, like once a month, my ex-wife has to fuck me. Do you want to, after she's ripped
07:44:50.600
your heart out and threw it on the ground? No, but I'm just saying, imagine, imagine like
07:44:57.100
once a month and every other Tuesday, a BJ. You'd be like, what the fuck? Why do I have
07:45:06.780
to give her money? We ain't fucking anymore. Yeah. You have a point. I don't agree about
07:45:12.500
the aluminum thing. Um, okay. Final notes for Sophia. You said, uh, uh, your thoughts on
07:45:18.440
feminism. Um, that has led to, well, the main cause of just like the degradation of society
07:45:25.720
and why everything is so bad right now with culture and dating and everything, which we,
07:45:30.700
you already kind of touched on that earlier, but even from like the Seneca Falls convention
07:45:35.880
in like what the 1800s, they were like denouncing Christianity and like the values and everything.
07:45:42.180
So to say it's just modern, uh, Maria, you had one thing here, open relationships. Have you been
07:45:48.480
in a open relationship or, um, I've been offered that, but declined it. Smart girl. Um, and then
07:45:59.520
Tori, Tori, Tori, Tori. Yeah. Uh, okay. You're what denomination Christian are you? Um, so I'm going
07:46:09.080
in between being a Catholic or an Orthodox. Okay. And you did have some disagreements,
07:46:14.020
whether or not women should be included in the draft. What was your position?
07:46:18.900
Well, I say, do we really want women in the draft? I mean, we have the sake of equality. Yes.
07:46:24.880
Yes. But at the same time you're going to be having, you know, they have women be allowed to vote
07:46:29.320
if they're voting for the right person. Um, I, I think that they, I think that they should be
07:46:38.320
allowed to vote, but they should be drafted, but only for local elections. Well, it's, it's like,
07:46:48.180
you're going to have all these, uh, healthy young women, um, who are drafted during the years. They
07:46:53.700
are most fertile and they can have the safest children or have children. Are they having,
07:46:59.380
are they having children? Are women having children? Maybe we could argue if somebody plans to have
07:47:04.740
children, then they don't. So we should force women? Should there be a draft? Should there be a,
07:47:10.600
a draft that women, they can pick their partner, but you have to have a child. Should there be a birth
07:47:18.600
draft? Hmm. Is it army that you talk about draft or? Yeah. The military, like forcing people.
07:47:25.120
There's a lot of facts that a woman in the army, like as in a war, it would just be a shit show.
07:47:31.980
Like that, that's the honest truth. It will change how the guys act. Women can volunteer for the
07:47:36.740
military, but, um, there's roles that women can fill in the military. There's plenty of pencil
07:47:42.620
pusher. Why not let them be drafted? Because if we're not, you know, lowering the, the requirements,
07:47:48.280
they're not going to make it anyway. You know, only the strongest of the strongest. Well, when you get
07:47:52.760
drafted, everybody gets drafted. Well, I mean, if you have health or different, at least I wanted to go to
07:47:56.980
the army, I was just pregnant before when I was trying to get, well, there you go. But, um,
07:48:02.800
look, I think if women are allowed to vote, they should be drafted the same way men are.
07:48:09.100
I kind of think that people that have been unemployed for a long time shouldn't vote, but
07:48:13.680
it doesn't depend. Yeah. Cause you're kind of being out of the world and everything that happens and
07:48:20.200
everything that has to be decided on. Okay. Well, that's a separate conversation. We're not going
07:48:26.020
to talk about that, but the drafts, you have to pay taxes to vote. Um, so women should not be
07:48:38.500
drafted as your position. I think it'd be a terrible idea. So yes, it's, it's true, but I think for this
07:48:45.360
sake of equality, we should draft women. Well, I feel like that's a little bit of a petty thing to
07:48:52.580
do. It's not petty. Well, I understand where you're coming from. The petty thing would say
07:48:56.720
for the next 300 years, only women fight. Oh, that would be equalities. We'd also, I mean,
07:49:05.160
I mean, I'm sorry. I'm not trying to put down women, but I feel like we would all be in a very
07:49:08.880
terrible place. Our country would be in a horrible position. Is drafting like you have to
07:49:15.340
go there. So why, why can women be allowed? Why do women get to vote on wars, but they never have
07:49:22.900
to fight them? Well, Israel has that. It's four years for guys and three for girls. That's like
07:49:28.100
one or there's only one or two countries in the entire world that like have mandatory conscription
07:49:33.640
for women. Maybe it's only Israel, every other nation, every other country in the world,
07:49:41.040
the United States. It's only men, only men can be drafted. Uh, in fact, in some countries there's
07:49:47.620
four, like, uh, it's not just the draft in some countries, regardless of if wartime or not,
07:49:53.180
you have to go to the military. Like you have to join the military as a man for two, three,
07:49:58.040
four years. So yeah, women should be drafted. Absolutely not. In a way. Absolutely. Yes. Like
07:50:04.860
you, in a situation of a war, women can help. Send them to the front line. Fuck it. Send
07:50:11.640
them to the front line. Absolutely not. You don't think that. We're not the same. We're
07:50:16.260
not the same. I do think it. I do think it. Well, hold on. Then, then why, why then that
07:50:21.960
makes women a privileged class? We are. Of course. I've said that from the get go. Right. But
07:50:28.000
if you want to have equality and feminism, I don't, you don't, but you do acknowledge
07:50:33.540
that like the, the sort of, I have been fighting. Stop, stop. The mainstream cultural
07:50:38.880
zeitgeist is my equality and my feminism. And I have been calling it bullshit the whole
07:50:48.040
time. Yep. Met women have had the vote for a hundred years. Feminists have failed to
07:50:53.760
equalize forced military conscription. Either revisit the vote, revisit the vote or get
07:51:03.560
drafted. I'd rather revisit the vote. I would way rather lose my right to vote. Yeah. One
07:51:10.280
hundred percent. Going around the table. I would love. If, if there was a choice and you could
07:51:14.540
vote on this. I would love for women. If you could vote. Women are on the verge of being
07:51:18.420
forced to go to war, military conscription for being subject to military draft.
07:51:23.760
You can evade it though. If women vote to rescind their ability to vote. Okay. No, women
07:51:31.660
don't have to. Do you trade? Do you make the trade to never be able to vote again? So you
07:51:37.360
give up your right to vote, but you can never be drafted. Yes. Yes. I see good and bad in
07:51:44.460
both. Just answer. Quick. Yes. I'm not voting then. Yeah. Not voting, giving it up? Oh yeah,
07:51:53.300
absolutely. Yeah, no war. Yes. Not voting. All right. That's interesting. Absolutely. I, I typically
07:52:01.920
vote the opposite of the females that I know. So I would rather them not be voting than go,
07:52:09.680
but then have to be drafted. Yes. The only thing is though, is that it is completely politically
07:52:15.620
untenable to ever even have a conversation about walking back women's rights to vote. Ergo, women
07:52:23.080
should be drafted. That's the only practical thing that would ever happen. Women are never,
07:52:28.820
women's right to vote will never be relinquished. That's true. If we keep pushing forward, it's just
07:52:33.820
going to, no, but it's whether you're conservative. No, well, I'm actually, look, I don't have a strong
07:52:40.640
position on walking back women's right to vote. I think there's obviously consequences. Yes. I want
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women to go to war. They should be drafted. Look, just because I understand in terms of what is
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politically tenable, you're not getting rid of the 19th amendment. It's never fucking happening.
07:53:00.320
It's not even worth having a conversation. Thus, what is, what is actually the reality? Women do
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have the right to vote. Cool. Let's create equality between men and women. You guys want equality.
07:53:12.460
Let's give you equality. You're not getting drafted. Don't worry. I was subject to, uh, I was subject to
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it. I had to register for the selective service to even be eligible to vote, to receive financial aid,
07:53:27.100
to get student loans. If I ever wanted to have a, uh, federal job or something, you have to be
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registered with the selective service. But you didn't get drafted. Doesn't matter. I was subject
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to it. Women weren't and never have been subject to it. If shit popped off North Korea when I was 18,
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trust me, shit popped off with China, Russia, whatever. But that's one of the reasons that makes
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me as a woman to appreciate men more. See Nick back there? That motherfucker is eligible.
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That guy's fucking eligible. No, we're so lucky. We are. By the way, I didn't mean motherfucker in a
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weird way. It's just like, I didn't mean it like enough. Yeah. Okay. Good talk. Women, women are
07:54:11.180
privileged. They are. All right. Again, I love it because like even if you donated $30, how about
07:54:17.400
rather than drafting women for combat? They can be drafted to have babies if we fall below
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replacement rate. Would you take that trade for equality? Honestly, yeah. Like I plan to have
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children anyways. I don't see the problem with that. Yeah, but forced like tomorrow. I think
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most women and most feminists would have a way bigger issue with, with a birth draft versus a
07:54:41.720
military draft. Yes. Yeah. Like that seems probably in some ways. Yeah. Moving on. You
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said body count doesn't matter. What? Or the disagree. Body count doesn't. Oh, you agree.
07:54:52.700
Oh yeah. Body count matters. Okay. You said, I don't know if this is a disagreement. All women,
07:54:56.840
men are beautiful. You agree or disagree with that? Yeah, I don't agree with that. Oh, okay. Nevermind
07:55:00.840
then. That's like related to the one to 10 thing where. Yeah. Okay. Let's see here.
07:55:06.340
Um, Oh, you once did this man that do you want to fill in the blanks? Uh, I think I mentioned
07:55:14.720
it in the beginning. God wanted you to have nothing to do with him. Yeah. So what happened
07:55:20.860
just very quickly, um, I met this man when I was, uh, doing school in New York and this
07:55:27.180
was during the time I was going through some financial struggles with my family. So I was
07:55:31.760
at boarding school and unfortunately I had to, um, leave and, uh, literally didn't have
07:55:38.380
a place to go because I, um, didn't have the, or I chose not to go back to Morocco just because
07:55:44.540
there were some issues with my family at the time. So I was dating this, uh, guy simultaneously.
07:55:49.840
And the funniest thing was I asked God if he wasn't for me, then to just take him away from
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me. And the next thing I knew literally within, I think five days, I was in the opposite
07:56:01.660
side of America, you know, living with my aunt who was helping me at the time. And I kept
07:56:06.780
going back. I kept pushing. I kept trying to keep the long distance and all the signs
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were there. And I kept just asking God or kept just ignoring him. And, uh, when I went
07:56:16.520
back to New York to do a modeling campaign, unfortunately I had gotten a call from my friend who was the
07:56:23.620
same friend who would later tell me a different thing about, um, my boyfriend or ex. Um, and
07:56:28.900
her, her boyfriend got on the call and told me that my ex had been talking bad about me
07:56:34.800
the entire time that he didn't want anything to do with me ever since I came that he was
07:56:39.720
saying, Oh, I'm just gonna, if I meet her this time, I'm just gonna sleep with her and
07:56:43.740
it's, I'm going to be done with it, which was kind of appalling because I never could
07:56:47.140
have saw it through him. But, um, funny enough, I still tried to mend things. I still tried to
07:56:53.200
give him the benefit of the doubt because there was no evidence. And it was just hearsay and I
07:56:57.260
was convincing myself that it wasn't true. And, um, when I was going back home on,
07:57:03.760
and I was in the airport, um, it was just a lot of bad stuff to happen. Uh, one after the other,
07:57:09.540
I lost my wallet, missed my flight. When I got home, you know, I had gotten a call from my friend
07:57:15.380
again. And this was right after I had sent an apology text and he replied to it saying that he
07:57:20.920
was sorry as well. And she had told me, she was just like, Hey, I need you to look at this photo
07:57:25.540
that my friend sent me and it was a screenshot of his hinge profile. So, um, yeah, what was the
07:57:30.800
thing about the accusations were the, when you say accusations, what do you mean?
07:57:35.320
Accusations in here? You say, uh, we argued, but due to lack of evidence, I decided to drop the
07:57:41.140
subject and apologize for your accusations. What are the accusations? So the people, the accusations
07:57:46.980
were that, um, he was telling his friends that he didn't want anything to do with me,
07:57:51.440
his best friend telling me that he didn't want anything to do with me. So. All right. Final
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one or two things here from your notes. Um, uh, let's see. You say modern day feminism has ruined
07:58:05.300
dating. Yes. Did you want to kind of jump into some of that stuff? Yeah, I'll dabble a little bit. Um,
07:58:10.920
yeah, we have, uh, we have empowerment all warped now. It's almost like we're going backwards and it's
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becoming almost animalistic to a certain degree. Um, there's nothing empowering about sleeping
07:58:22.240
and trying to get that body count higher. Uh, I literally had an argument with a man about this
07:58:27.880
the other day and it was shocking to me how he was trying to convince me that it was empowerment,
07:58:33.000
which I'm sure would be more beneficial for him. But, um, yeah, no, it's not empowerment. I think
07:58:39.220
that the best thing we can do is tell other woman that there are things that we can do and there are
07:58:44.280
things that we cannot ever measure up against a man. So, but that's okay. And we need to be fine
07:58:49.820
with what we are biologically made to do. So yeah, that's my view and take on, um, why modern day
07:58:56.000
feminism is bringing us backwards. Yeah. It's creates shame to sleep around and be free. Yeah.
07:59:02.440
It's like only fans girls going out in public looking like, yeah, like half naked. And then they're
07:59:09.620
like, Oh, why are you looking at my boobs? I don't, I don't, I don't think that we, I don't think that
07:59:13.780
we should be shaming because directly only fans girls, there's another thing you would never see
07:59:19.100
me throw dirt on another girl's name. Cause I truly believe to claim that you care about women
07:59:23.960
and still like point your fingers at certain people. You would need to understand that the
07:59:28.560
reason why we have, um, only fans is partially because of feminism, but also because there's a
07:59:34.440
demand where there's product in a crazy amount, but there's not enough judgment for it. Like it's
07:59:40.060
normalized now. Yeah. It shouldn't be. It shouldn't be normalized. I think it shouldn't be. I don't
07:59:44.340
think that we should be having these OF celebrities promoting makeup. I don't think so, but at the
07:59:50.260
same time to drag people's name, it would be like to point your finger at a prostitute and be like,
07:59:57.480
Oh, you're a whore. When in reality, you just don't know what she had, why she went there,
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who told her that by definition she is. I'm not going around like, you know,
08:00:06.680
slut shaming people, but I absolutely think that to some degree we should slut shame people. I don't
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think that's a problem. The problem becomes when you lose your empathy and it's not coming from a
08:00:19.860
place of love. It's just coming from a place of pride. So if you're going to criticize a prostitute,
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it should be out of love. It should be, Hey, you're better than this. You need to turn to God.
08:00:29.280
It shouldn't be out of your soul. You know, that's why also, um, we've kind of lost the
08:00:35.240
reality of things. It's, we have this delusion that you can like eat your cake and save your
08:00:43.360
cake, like have it too. Like you can be there and you can be naked and then you can come out of
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there and be like, Oh, I'm not an object. It's soul destroying and they don't realize it until
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it's too late. And they're trading that for a dollar. All right. Rock and roll. Any final
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thoughts from anybody before we wrap up the show? I love this panel. Me too. Hitler is very,
08:01:07.800
very, very interesting. There wasn't enough arguments. There was a lot of, I thought they
08:01:13.420
wanted to fight. Yeah. Like fight a little. I fought with her. Yeah, he did.
08:01:18.120
Yeah, but you can find anything we don't agree with. Like massively. There's really not a lot
08:01:22.360
that we disagree on. It's just the nitpicking. Yeah. It's just the nitpicking. A lot of rage
08:01:27.820
baiting going on. Yeah. There's no rage. I wasn't rage baiting. Really? I believe in everything
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I say. I think you do believe it, but I also think you were kind of like picking, poking,
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picking, poking a little bit. Right? Just a tiny bit. No, not really. Felicity, any final thoughts
08:01:43.660
from you? No. I'm not pleased right now. Why? I'm hungry. Oh my God. There's so many
08:01:53.040
snacks back there. I was so bored of the conversation. Did you try so many? Oh my God, Felicity, be a good
08:01:58.200
sport. What the fuck? I'm trying. I'm trying to have so much patience. I really am. But you asked
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me what I thought. I told you. See, it was just honest. Sorry. Wow. Not a trooper. Felicity,
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El Felicity, not a trooper. El Felicity in the chat. I don't care. You guys try sitting
08:02:13.620
here for eight hours. They do. Yeah, we do. No, them. The people in the chat. Oh my
08:02:18.820
God. She's got a ball and chain, you guys. Free Felicity. Especially in LA last night.
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It was crazy keeping everybody awake, right? But it was great because, yay, Dodgers. Where
08:02:28.640
are you staying? Or like what vicinity? Well, I was in. Okay. All right. You guys can talk
08:02:33.120
about that after the show. Later on. All right. Well, GG. Well played. To the panel. Last
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call. Hit the like button, please, on your way out. Also, please leave a nice comment
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once the live ends. I read them. Positivity is nice. Helps the algorithm. You have to
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wait like 30 seconds after we end the actual stream to do it. Thank you guys for tuning
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in tonight. You could have been anywhere in the world, but you were here with me. I appreciate
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that. Thank you to everyone who so generously supports the show. Super chats, donates, watches,
08:03:08.700
likes, however you support. I appreciate that. Couldn't do it without you guys, you know,
08:03:14.780
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So thank you guys. Quick thing on our upcoming schedule. So I'm not going to do a whatever
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Wednesday this week. I have, we have Andrew coming, debate, dating talk, debate, at least
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two debates. We might, depending on who we can get, we might try to squeeze, squeeze in
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one more, but we do fingers crossed, you know, whatever things happen, but two debates, dating
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talk, Andrew Wilson back in studio. It's been like six months. It's going to be good. We've
08:03:55.620
got some good shows lined up for you guys. Know whatever Wednesday, probably this week,
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next week. Any girls who want to be on the show, you can DM at whatever on Instagram if
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you can make it to Santa Barbara. And just a reminder, guys, just stay until the stream
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ends. Leave a nice little comment. And I'm trying to think. Oh, hold on.
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No, we did not. I don't even think one super chat came in that met the threshold. But
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um, we have this final message here. Uh, final message whole nine yards donated $30. The countries
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of Chad, Denmark, Eritrea, Guinea, Bissau, Israel, Mali, Mozambique, North Korea, Norway, and Sweden
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all have mandatory military service, which also includes the females. Okay. So the other
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193 countries, I was off by, you know, I think I said one or two countries have it. Um, what
08:04:54.580
is that? 10 countries or so the other 180 countries don't, uh, have anything that can, anything that
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can compel women into military service. All these other 180 other countries or whatever, uh, have
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male only military conscription. And some of them, uh, whether there's a draft or not force men,
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now all men to join the military for a period of time. Go ahead.
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I think the big difference with the U S is that you guys are the ones who always go into conflict
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to stop it after things go too crazy. None of those other countries like go somewhere to stop
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the war, but it's always U S. That's why I like really appreciate you guys. U S is the hero.
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I guess we're the world police. I don't know if that's a good thing though. Um, for the rest of us,
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it's costly. I don't think it's, I guess it's good for other Western countries, but it's not
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good for America. I don't think it's good for America that we are spending all this money on
08:05:57.260
the military. Well, I think it's good. We have a strong military, but that we're meddling in all
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these conflicts. That's not good for the American citizen. It's too much nowadays. Like thinking about
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world wars and stuff, it, none of them would have stopped without the U S we have all this
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money for like ICBMs and fucking, I don't know. I'm not all this shit. It's like a lot of money.
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And like, we, we should be maybe focusing on the American citizen a little more than that.
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Yeah. Like in the airplane, when you get the mask on, it's always, it should be always you first
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and then you can help. Yes. Maybe we can revitalize our infrastructure. Maybe we can help out the
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homeless. Maybe we can, you know, uh, anyways, whatever. Uh, okay. Uh, maybe we, maybe we
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could be taxed a little less. That would be, maybe the IRS doesn't, uh, literally, uh, well
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not, it wouldn't be literally figuratively. Fuck us. Okay. Uh, that's pretty much it guys.
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Again, Andrew Wilson coming. I shouldn't have paused there. Uh, Andrew Wilson will be here in
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the studio. Uh, I believe schedule Saturday, Sunday, Monday debate, dating, talk debate.
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All right, guys. Uh, Oh sevens in the chat. Oh sevens in the chat. Good night guys. I hope
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you guys enjoyed the stream. It was a fun one. I enjoyed it. Uh, and, uh, yeah, we'll see you