ADDRESSING DRAMA! Brian CONFRONTS Hater Girl Who Called The Podcast DUMB？! ｜ Dating Talk #191
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This week on Whatever Dating Talk, we're joined by Ava and Rylee, two college students from Santa Barbara, California who talk about how they met, how they fell in love, and how they ended up in a car accident.
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Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast, where we try to make sense of the modern dating
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Disclaimer. Oh, apologies that we're running a little bit late here. We had two no-shows.
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And then we had a, where Kiki was sitting, we had a last minute, I don't even know how to
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call it. What do you call it? Abandonment? What do you call it? A nervous, that's the word.
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Evening B, I sent you a sweet clip in Discord. Check it out. To the guests, may fortune shine
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Yeah. Oh, mind you, the, one of the no-shows who claimed she went to the ER, uh, actually
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it's not worth coming. I just don't believe, whenever people say that they're in the emergency
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room, I don't think they're in the emergency room, but anyways, uh, or their car broke down.
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Don't believe any of it. They're all liars. But, uh, with that said, without further ado,
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we're going to have the guests introduce themselves. So please tell us your name,
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Occupation. I am currently trying to become an apprentice electrician.
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Hi, I'm Riley. I have a cough drop in my mouth, so ignore that. And I'm 19, occupation,
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Santa Barbara. Oh, location, Santa Barbara, occupation. I work at a restaurant.
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Hi, my name is Lexi. I'm 23 years old. I do OnlyFans and I'm from Arizona.
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Are you not involved in that kind of work anymore or don't you work at one of the ranches?
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Are you still doing like a side hustle with that or?
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My name is Fern. I'm not originally from Santa Barbara. I'm from Sonoma County. I'm a busser and I'm 19 years old.
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Kiki. No, I'm just kidding. Um, I'm pay IRL or Payton.
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I'm 27 from Massachusetts. I work with farmers and I'm also a streamer.
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By the way, this is a World War I helmet and a Chilean military uniform.
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So if any of you have any funny ideas, any of you edge, edgy people, it's a Chilean from Chile, the Latin American country and a World War I helmet, not World War II.
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My name is Madison. I'm 19 years old. I'm a student at Santa Barbara City College and I also work for the Whatever Podcast.
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All right. Welcome everybody. So we're going to go around the table once more. What is everybody's current relationship status?
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So are you single, talking stage, situationship, friends with benefits, relationship, married, polycule?
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Giovanni Jade, you donated $69. Chicken between Bismarck and the Dolly's sleep are fine.
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Is that the same chick from the last podcast? She was dope. Dump your BF. I'm simping.
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She is, she is, well, we'll get into that in just a moment.
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If you're single, how long have you been single? What's your longest relationship?
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Um, I'm single. I've been single for a couple months now. My longest relationship was a little less than a year.
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All right. Uh, the one that was a little less than a year, was that the one that ended three months ago?
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I'm single. I've been single my whole life. I've never officially dated anybody. So single for 19 years.
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All right. Um, what's the longest period of time you've dated somebody?
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Well, so I guess what's the longest period of time you've, have you been on a date?
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Okay. Have you, uh, what's your orientation? Straight, bi?
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Have you, um, what's the longest period of time you've been talking, seeing anybody?
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One woman, like seven months, and then one man, like six months, seven months.
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Lexi, if you left Bunny Ranch, how does one book you for privatist courting going forward?
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I have an email address that's linked in my email.
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This has to be you, bro. You had a, you had like your friends.
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No, I didn't. Um, Lexi with two X's, lovelacevip at gmail.com.
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Subscribe to my OnlyFans because it's currently on sale for $5.
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All right. Um, so you dated a woman for, well, not dated.
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You saw a woman for seven months, saw a guy for six months.
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Um, what was the nature of those, would you consider them situationships?
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How, so let's start with the, uh, the guy first.
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And pretty consistently like that for the whole six months?
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Okay. And then the girl, how often would you see her?
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That was not often. The girl was so long ago. That was like, like so long ago. It was like barely a real relationship.
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So I would say the most official is the guy, the six months.
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And, uh, you're not seeing either of them currently though.
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You're seeing the, oh, it's okay. You're seeing the guy currently. Um, is it long distance or you guys both live here?
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Okay. And you see each other three to four times a week, but you've been single your whole life, but you've been, you hang out with this guy three to four times a week for six months.
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Have you had any conversations about exclusivity at all?
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I think I make it kind of clear on jokes that I'll make and stuff, but.
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Like, I don't know. Something like, if you fuck her, I'll burn your house down. Like, something like that.
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Wait, but you said if you fuck her. So is he like telling you about chicks he's pursuing or like?
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Or like, her, the way you said it, like, her sounds very specific.
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Just like, no, no one's specific. Like, I'll just say that, like, in a joking way.
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Oh, okay. Uh, but so are you seeing other people then?
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Not anymore. I was, like, on one. I've been on, I was on Tinder for a while, but I just deleted it, like, a week ago.
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Well, it's not very exclusive then if you were just on Tinder, right?
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Well, have you been, have you, um, for the six months, and it's, when you say six months, some people will say, like, on and off.
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So six months total, but I've known them for two years, but it's been six months, whatever.
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In the six months, there was, like, a two-month gap.
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And so, in the total six-month period of time, excluding the two-month gap, were you seeing, or have you seen other people?
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If that's true, that's sad and total L-simp shit, bro.
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Like, all the girls look at it, too, when I get up.
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You see when girls are checking out on your app?
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No, but, like, there's, like, three or four TTSs that come through at night mentioning it.
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Well, now I'm definitely going to be staring every time you get up.
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Every time you ever get up, I'm going to try to look.
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Every time you get up, I'm trying to take a peek.
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So, next time you get up, just know I'm going to be watching.
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Now that you said that, the girls are going to leave.
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The two-month break, you were like seeing other people?
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Now, has he ever discussed like wanting exclusivity or no?
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So, he's kind of happy keeping things more casual?
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And it sounds like you are kind of okay with it too, right?
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Are you worried if you were to go to him and be like, hey, I want monogamy.
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Not necessarily worried, but I think that that's definitely a possibility.
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But if that were to happen, then I would just leave.
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It's more like if that happens, then I'll go find someone else who can give that if that's what I want.
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And then there was the girl that you were also seeing.
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But that sounded like it was a bit less regular in terms of how often you see each other.
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Like people that I'm like seeing in real life or just like people on Snapchat?
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I'm just, I don't know if you're single though.
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Because when I originally asked you, you said you've been single your whole life.
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Well, I know that that's the kind of arrangements, but I don't know if I would categorize you as
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Well, I feel like single would seem to suggest, it doesn't necessarily mean that you're in
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If some, if there were people who were dating for just two weeks, but they put a title on
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But here you are, you've had this ongoing for six months.
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You hang out with the guy three to four times a week.
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If a guy were to come along and say, I would like to hang out with you, take you out on
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a date on a day you plan to hang out with another man.
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If I would prefer to hang out with that other guy, like if I'm hanging out with this guy
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and not doing anything and the other guy is asking me to dinner at a steakhouse or something,
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I think I'd rather go to the steakhouse and get a free meal.
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So if this Chilean soldier here asked you out on a date, you would say, would you, to nice
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hibachi, Benihana steak dinner, hibachi dinner, would you say yes?
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But what if I were to take you out on a date right now?
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Between the two, I would go on a date with Lexi.
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Would that bother you if he was sleeping with other women?
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So, if it would bother you, why don't you push for exclusivity or a title?
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Because that's a question that you have to ask, and that's a conversation that you have to have,
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and that's not a conversation I really want to have, because that's very...
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I feel like if he wanted to, he would, and as her being a woman, it's not really her job to, like, be like...
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If they've been talking for six months, and he wanted to have her as a girlfriend, he would have initiated that.
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Like, he would have been persistent and consistent.
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It doesn't bother me that much that we're not dating, and if he wanted to date, then he could make that move.
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You don't feel like it's depleting your options by sticking with him, even though he doesn't want to be with you in a relationship?
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But she just said that she would go out to dinner with me if I offered.
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But I'm saying, she also said that if he did want to, she would be in a relationship with him.
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So why keep playing, you know, around with him and hanging out with him if he doesn't want to be serious with you,
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when you could find someone that does want to be serious with you?
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Because I'm not dying to be in a relationship that bad, and I don't need to be in a relationship.
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So if it doesn't work out, then I won't be in a relationship.
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I don't have somebody else I'm trying to date anyway.
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So if I'm single, as I said, I was single for 19 years.
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I don't care if I have a boyfriend or not, or a girlfriend or whatever.
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So if he doesn't want to, then it's not really affecting my life that badly.
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If it was up to you, though, and you could somehow convince him to ask you and have this conversation with you
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and want to be with you seriously, would you want that?
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Well, I wouldn't want to have to convince him, so not necessarily.
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Like, you had magic, and you could just make his mind say that he wants to be with you in a serious relationship.
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Would you choose that, rather than how you're with him now?
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I think anybody would prefer to be in a relationship and not have to worry about other girls or whatever,
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but that's just not the way it is, and I'm not going to act like it is, you know?
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You seem like a very independent person, and, like, in today's society, a lot of us are codependent on a lot of people.
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So, that's what I'm getting from you, is that you're, like, kind of going with the flow.
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Yeah, and it's, like, it's not like I'm, like, hoeing around and fucking a bunch of other people,
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and the reason I'm in this situation is because, like, I want to be a hoe.
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It's just, like, if he's not asking, then I'm not going to beg, and that's it, you know?
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Like, it'll go, like, how it goes until it ends, and that's it.
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So, to Lexi's point here, Lexi, you said, well, if he wanted to, he would.
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It's the guy's responsibility to ask for the relationship.
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Actually, I think it's the woman's responsibility to ask for the relationship.
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I feel like it should be, like, 50-50, meet me halfway.
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I was saying that it was, like, meeting me halfway.
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Like, for example, with me, if I like somebody, I'm pretty consistent and persistent with making sure that they know, like, hey, I'm interested in you.
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So, if I'm doing all those things and they're not reciprocating, then at that point, I don't feel like, in her situation, it would be worth to, like, continuously try to initiate a relationship.
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However, we'll get relationship status from everybody, and then we'll dive right back into that.
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One that's, like, on and off, probably, like, four years, and then, like, a consistent one is probably, like, almost a year.
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And the four-year on and off, how many times was it on and off?
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Like, it would end for, like, a day, and we'll be back, and then it'll be, like, two months, and we'll be back.
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So, like, more than 10, more than 20, more than 30.
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Of all those times, more often than not, was it you ending things, or who, by the way, orientation, straight, bi?
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It was, like, 50-50, but I would say mostly him.
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It would just be him, like, raging and then ending it.
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I would say, like, 50-50 because I would do it sometimes, but it was also, like, almost two years ago when it officially ended.
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And then, who would kind of be the one to reach back out to 50-50 or?
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So, he would, sounds like he would mostly end it, but then also mostly come back.
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What was the, if there was a, a hundred is a lot, but what was the primary recurring reason for the frequent breakups?
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Like, I don't know, he would say something that would piss me off.
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I would say something that would piss him off and be like, what's the point of him being together?
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And then you guys would be back together like three days later?
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And so, what would be, was there one primary thing that was the source of the arguments?
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I would find him, like, doing, like, really just, like, weird things sometimes.
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He would, like, snap girls, and then this one time when we, like, first started dating, he texted a girl that he missed her,
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and they would FaceTime her, like, that night or something, because we were scrolling on his Instagram,
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and, but, yeah, that was, I, he did fuck one of my best friends, though.
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So, he fucked her best friend, but her best friend's a guy.
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I don't want to, like, expose him, but, like, I don't care.
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He was probably, like, questioning, but I never really minded it, because, like, why would I care, you know?
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It's okay if you want to question, but it probably happened, like, my junior year.
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I didn't know, and then I got back together with him my senior year of high school, and then broke up with him,
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because I was like, okay, this is, this, I didn't break up with him because of that, because I didn't know yet.
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So, by that time, I, like, broke up with him the very last time somebody told me that, and I was like, what?
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So, that was probably, like, a secret for a couple of months.
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So, I just found out, by the grace of God, that somebody told me after the last time we broke up, and we never got back together.
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I mean, like, it was kind of, he won't admit it, that it happened, but some, like, he told a few people, but to me, he'll tell me, like, no, it didn't happen, but it did.
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I wasn't friends with him for about a year, but I'm probably as close as ever with him now.
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I am, but at the same time, it's just, like, me and the other guy, my ex-boyfriend, like, honestly, it was fair game.
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It was fucked up that he did it, but me and him were broken up, so, like, what can I do about it now?
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I've been single for seven years, and I've been celibate for four years.
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And so, going back to you, are you currently, is there currently anybody in the picture?
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And is it just one guy, or are there other guys in the picture?
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Yeah, like, I would snap people, but I, like, wouldn't go on dates with, like, multiple
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How long have you been seeing this current guy, kind of?
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It used to be, like, probably, like, three times a week, but now it's been, like, three
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I mean, like, we text, and, like, he wished me happy birthday and stuff.
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And do you want more, or are you happy being nothing, I guess?
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I mean, we have had conversations, and he's told me he doesn't want anything, and I'm
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I've, like, processed everything, went through all the motions.
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Yeah, I was sad, because I did want something real with him, but he's just not someone I
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So, for you two, since you are single, but you've been seeing a guy for six months, you've
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been seeing this guy for eight months, you recently haven't been hanging out with him
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Well, in any case, you were hanging out with him very, fairly frequently, three times a
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And, question, if these guys were not in the picture, do you think that you would be pursuing
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But, like, as I said, I deleted Tinder, and I'm not, like, fiending for a guy in my life,
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because after a year in Santa Barbara and talking to different guys, it's been shit every single
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And so, I'm like, I was single my whole life, and I'm fine doing it until it's the right
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So, I'm not, like, on my hands and knees looking for a man to date me.
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What is the nature of your time spent with these guys?
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So, like, you said you see this guy three to four times a week, not your boyfriend, you're
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single, you see him three to four times a week.
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Is it, like, would you consider it a booty call?
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So, is it, like, do you ever see him during the day?
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Or is it, like, come over at night, let's hook up, and then that's it?
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There's times where it's not, and there's times where it's not just sex, and it'll be
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something else, or it won't even be sex at all.
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But then sometimes it will be, or at least feeling, like, straight up a booty call.
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And when you do hang out, what's, like, the average length of the hangout?
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Um, I would say, like, night to sometime in the morning.
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How do we all navigate this rise of risk of undisclosed STD in the modern dating realm?
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Condoms merely for pregnancy prevention, but STD can still be caught with condom use.
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The rise of risk of undisclosed in the modern dating realm?
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I mean, it's to get tested in between every partner and to also perform DCs, which is called a dick check.
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Um, you just want to, you know, do a quick little general look.
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Well, yeah, honestly, like, even as a, yeah, like, with any guys...
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Well, first of all, I would ask for a testing if...
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I'm trying to explain to you you're interrupting me, Brian.
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You're just, like, looking in the general area just to make sure that there's no, like, cuts, open wounds, anything that looks abnormal.
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But do you tell him, like, do you put on some gloves?
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But, like, do you say time for the dick check or is it more like...
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It's, like, more so, like, I know what I'm looking for and I'm just, like, looking.
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Well, I'm sorry, but if we're going to be intimate together...
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Has any of the guys that you've met just randomly or on Tinder or naturally, have they ever been, like, why...
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Like, usually I feel like naturally if you're, like, going to hook up with someone, you're making out, you're getting into it.
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I just feel like it would be an abrupt and kind of, you know, odd thing to say, oh, I'm going to do a dick check or start to do that.
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One thing about me is that if I'm being sexual with anybody that I always ask for testing, even if we're using a condom, I still want to see the tests.
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So, if I'm going to be sexual with somebody, I obviously can have enough comfort to say, hey, I want to see this.
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Would you be offended if a guy was, like, wants to do a pussy check?
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You want to do a pussy check on me with both my legs behind my head?
00:34:28.220
But, yeah, like, I mean, if we're going to have sex with each other, I'm going to want to see.
00:34:39.000
This chick is giving dudes hogs an ocular pat down and thinks it does something.
00:34:47.180
You guys have to get tested between every partner and use condoms.
00:35:27.240
And the amount of guys that want to eat vagina without seeing women test...
00:35:34.000
Because I carry dental dams, and dental dams are latex sheets.
00:35:40.700
Like, do men even know that you can get oral STDs, like, from eating vagina?
00:35:46.020
Because a lot of guys will just try to eat my vagina, and I'm like, whoa, like, no.
00:35:55.280
Like, guys that I've had on regular dates, they've literally on the...
00:36:10.000
So, you'll be on a date with a guy, and instead of him being like, I don't know where that's
00:36:15.260
been, you'll be like, you don't know where that's been.
00:36:20.920
Ava, you know who's coping and seething right now?
00:36:34.540
And I carry dental dams, so a lot of guys don't know what dental dams are, and when I
00:36:41.280
It's like a thin sheet of latex that goes right over your pussy, and then you can engage
00:36:48.180
So, if you don't have a dental dam, go to the...
00:36:50.260
Go to the adult store and get you some dental dam for safe sex.
00:37:06.260
Wait, but also, I do want to say that you can also get an STD if someone has a cold sore or
00:37:12.940
something, so it can also be transferred that way.
00:37:17.680
And if you're using a dental dam, you can't even be scared to eat pussy, because there's
00:37:29.520
I haven't gone down on a girl since the ocean administration.
00:37:32.200
Just know, I feel so bad for your girlfriend, Brian.
00:37:35.300
You have a girlfriend and you don't go down on her.
00:37:40.260
But, yes, I've had multiple long-term relationships, and it's not been an issue.
00:37:50.040
Has any of your girlfriends ever cheated on you?
00:37:57.860
I mean, you do realize you can make a girl cum without eating her pussy, right?
00:38:09.840
Ah, see, now when I throw this term in your face, you guys tend to get very quiet.
00:38:14.000
So, let's talk about sexual boundaries and consent.
00:38:16.880
So, if I don't want to do something sexually, I'm allowed to do that.
00:38:35.480
Oh, you don't want to have anal sex as a woman?
00:38:46.220
That's totally a valid boundary to have, for sure.
00:38:49.100
And if you start to disagree with that, you can disagree with it.
00:38:52.560
But then going after someone for it, I don't think, is right.
00:38:56.460
It's more of an uncommon thing to hear that is a boundary.
00:39:00.980
So, I have a question for you, then, on that topic.
00:39:14.980
Like, if you're about to hook up with a girl, you're like, oh, she's going to give me head.
00:39:18.800
Or do you ask, like, hey, would you give me head?
00:39:25.540
It's not a deal breaker if a girl doesn't want to give head.
00:39:28.240
But it's actually not really been an issue in any of my relationships.
00:39:42.560
I'm saying if in a world where you would expect head but not give it.
00:39:46.680
But if you're saying that you don't and you're like, I don't care if she doesn't give head too.
00:39:55.080
If it's her boundary that she doesn't like to give head, that's one thing.
00:39:58.860
But if it becomes tit for tat, you won't do it, so I won't do it.
00:40:09.000
Let's talk about the fairness of dating in just a moment.
00:40:16.360
Do most women expect men to pay for first dates?
00:41:13.920
How many parties do you think you've been to in your whole life?
00:41:19.420
How many times do you think you've been hit on at a party?
00:41:24.820
How many times have you gone up to a guy and you actively hit on him?
00:41:33.060
What if I just don't see any cute guys at that party?
00:41:44.420
More often than the amount of times guys have slid into your DMs?
00:41:50.180
So, and then, I mean, just using your own eyes.
00:42:10.440
I'd honestly rather not have sex at all if it's with a condom.
00:42:13.560
Exactly why you're over here spreading probably STDs.
00:42:20.600
But what if he goes along with what you said earlier and he's gotten checked and he's in
00:42:24.720
a serious relationship with a woman and she's gotten checked and that's just how they both
00:42:29.140
But you were talking about the spread of STDs though.
00:42:32.420
He was specifically talking about what he was just talking about.
00:42:35.580
But I was talking about the topic that made us talk about the condoms and STDs and stuff.
00:42:44.480
I don't care if you're having sex with no condom in your personal life.
00:42:54.040
So just to be clear, I actually care a lot about my partner's pleasure.
00:43:01.940
And if she's capable, she's going to come multiple times before I even come.
00:43:15.680
Also, your refractory period is just longer than other people.
00:43:25.500
No, that's definitely not true because I know guys that can come multiple times.
00:43:29.540
I've known people that have gone like 10 rounds and a guy comes every time.
00:43:32.500
And I feel like you're kind of the exception to the rule when it comes to like hookups and
00:43:40.240
You think, wait, just to be clear, you guys think, hold on.
00:43:44.640
You guys think that men can come, maintain an erection and continue having sex and come
00:43:59.440
I just think you guys have no idea about male anatomy whatsoever.
00:44:07.760
I've met guys that have and then I met others that haven't been able to.
00:44:15.840
What percent of men can maintain an erection after ejaculation?
00:44:24.860
I'm just saying that they could just go around.
00:44:26.200
What percentage of men maintain an erection after ejaculation?
00:44:30.420
I'm just giving you based off my personal experiences.
00:44:35.500
Y'all know that percentage off the top of my head?
00:44:39.940
I mean, I thought we were just saying how, like, I didn't think they would say a wreck
00:44:44.700
I was just saying they could probably go around, take like one minute, then they can get out
00:44:55.040
I would say it's not five minutes for most men.
00:44:58.940
Probably, I mean, we're also younger, so maybe it's...
00:45:04.340
Well, then you've got a long refractory period, and that's just you.
00:45:08.720
I know stories of hookups of a guy that's gone 10 rounds within probably two hours.
00:45:16.440
So if you want to do that math, whatever, but that's...
00:45:27.380
But when we're talking about, like, fairness double standards, there's all kinds of
00:45:34.760
Y'all just don't like it when the double standards impact you.
00:45:38.000
Wait, what double standard are you referring to?
00:45:39.900
So she's talking about this double standard of guys receiving head but not giving head.
00:45:48.360
I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
00:45:50.760
Women have all kinds of expectations on men's behavior without reciprocity.
00:45:55.320
If you have serial donated $69, what is the hottest thing you can ever see a man or woman
00:46:01.360
do in the real world, in society, that would immediately turn you on to them?
00:46:17.520
No, and half the time, and you're probably going to disagree with this because you're
00:46:23.300
going to bring up some statistic, but half the time, girls don't come once during sex.
00:46:46.240
I'm not sure what the argument there is exactly.
00:46:57.040
I guess you're just throwing it out there that women are less likely to come in hookups.
00:47:03.980
You were bringing up the double standard of women can come a million times, but men only
00:47:08.420
come once, but what we're saying is most of the time, women don't even come once or half
00:47:15.220
of a come because usually the guy is lasting 30 seconds and he comes and he goes to sleep.
00:47:25.220
So, we were framing this in the context of my own personal anecdotal position on this.
00:47:31.520
So, when it comes to me, I can't speak for how men operate in that realm.
00:47:36.440
So, my experience has been, one, my goal, I'm going to make her come first, if possible,
00:48:32.920
So, you're both single, but you've both been seeing these guys for six months, eight months.
00:48:42.060
So, it's like one-hour, two-hour hangouts, basically.
00:48:58.660
I don't think anyone's saying there's something wrong with the man, but it is typically, like, biology that it's easier for men.
00:49:20.520
I was going to ask, have you guys ever contacted...
00:49:27.920
Anyone who's actually finished multiple times, you know the pain of your blank almost falling off.
00:49:42.120
Have you ever contacted them for a booty call before?
00:49:49.240
That's a bit of a double standard that the guy, he always...
00:49:52.240
Even though you've been seeing him for six months, he's always the one that has to plan the date.
00:50:02.820
I don't mean, like, he takes you to a fancy seafood dinner.
00:50:11.360
So, she said booty call, so I thought she meant booty call.
00:50:14.400
As in, you're calling him up to have sex and dip.
00:50:30.780
I understand what you were saying, and I did mean booty call in my specific question,
00:50:37.100
but I do understand what he means as in the man initiating to hang out in any type of a sense,
00:50:44.380
whether it's hooking up or just planning whatever you do when you are seeing them.
00:50:51.880
So, going back to your thing, Lexi, you said you got to meet halfway, right?
00:50:57.020
When it came to, like, asking for commitment, asking for relationship, right?
00:51:03.120
Yeah, so, and I made the point that I actually think that that should be on the woman's side.
00:51:12.340
Yeah, the woman should be the one seeking the commitment.
00:51:16.980
Because the burden is on men to do pretty much everything in the beginning,
00:51:24.100
and so, and also, women seem a bit more focused on the commitment than the men.
00:51:30.720
So, if it's something that you want, you should be the one asking for it.
00:51:36.800
Men get scared of commitment, so it tends to just, like, run them away.
00:51:42.600
Exactly why I was saying, like, if he wanted to, he would, and if you're already meeting him that way,
00:51:59.180
The W for the woman is to get the guy into a relationship and commitment.
00:52:03.260
Because a girl can sleep with any dude, really.
00:52:07.300
Maybe not every single guy, but, like, if you wanted to, you could fuck most men.
00:52:16.320
Women want to be more than sex to men, but then turn around and sell themselves,
00:52:26.160
Maybe it is time for women to listen more and talk less.
00:52:41.720
I might keep it for 30, then we'll boost it all the way up.
00:53:01.420
Yeah, so essentially, like, y'all can sleep pretty much with...
00:53:07.440
Like, if you want to sleep with a guy, there's a good chance you can do it.
00:53:10.260
It's not clear to me if each of those men you'll be able to secure for long-term commitment.
00:53:19.300
The W for the guy is just getting you into bed.
00:53:21.640
But why would I continue to try to get commitment from you if you don't want it?
00:53:29.600
If I wanted commitment, I'm speaking hypothetically.
00:53:34.200
Well, if you keep trying before you ever sleep with them and you tell them that you want a serious relationship with them and you're seeking that, then that would be the W for you if you show them that that's what you want before you sleep with them.
00:53:48.500
But, I mean, your argument was, well, it should be, like, kind of 50-50.
00:53:54.180
Well, you said meet halfway and it's the guy's duty to ask.
00:53:58.280
No, I said if I'm showing you interest, then you're showing me interest.
00:54:10.900
Effort into, yeah, like, into the commitment of being in a relationship.
00:54:24.880
I don't know the exact framing, but to the essence of, you said, it's the man should be the one asking for a commitment.
00:54:30.800
Well, you don't want to take a man and, like, demasculate.
00:54:40.340
So it's, like, to a point, I'm not going to be, like, do you want to be my boyfriend?
00:54:48.420
Like, I don't think that I'm going to be the one asking you to marry me.
00:54:55.560
I think that would be actually showing how much effort you're putting in and trying to...
00:55:01.060
We're talking about, like, the first talking stages, though, of, like, actually securing the commitment.
00:55:06.900
Obviously, you shouldn't ask him to, like, marry you.
00:55:08.960
Well, personally, I'm just saying I'm not going to be, like, do you want to be my boyfriend?
00:55:19.380
No, like, I just think that if you like me enough, then you will ask.
00:55:24.020
And I'm showing you all the green flags of, like, I'm interested in you and all this stuff, then...
00:55:31.400
Yeah, to what you're saying, you're saying, well, if he doesn't ask and he doesn't like you that much, so why...
00:55:38.080
So why would we push for something that, if it's going to happen, it's obviously going to happen if he likes you that much.
00:55:43.960
So why am I going to, with a guy that doesn't like me that much, beg for him to date me?
00:55:48.020
Like, divine timing, it's going to work for you.
00:55:49.900
So when you say beg for the guy to date you, it's not clear to me if asking a guy for commitment is begging.
00:55:57.020
But couldn't you just apply the same logic to the male point of view?
00:56:02.700
So could, like, in a situation, like, for example, let's say you've been texting a guy.
00:56:11.920
And then you start thinking, and then he stopped texting you.
00:56:14.840
And then you start thinking, and you didn't double text.
00:56:32.580
Her only standard to be your girlfriend is the funds clear.
00:56:53.200
So couldn't the guy just say the exact same thing, and then you're just in a total stalemate?
00:56:58.920
But what I was trying to bring up is, well, what about a situation where, because there's been girls who've been in a situation, it's like, he hasn't texted me.
00:57:10.360
And instead of one of you, like, instead of just, like, taking it upon yourself to text him, your pride gets in the way, you don't text him, he doesn't text you, and then it totally fizzles.
00:57:22.580
Even though both of you could have wanted it, but none of you, like, neither of you were willing to just, like, reach out.
00:57:32.080
Honestly, I'll double text if, like, because it comes to a point where it's like, I don't, I'm not going to ruin something that could be something because it's embarrassing, as some would say.
00:57:42.860
You know, I'm like, I don't want to, like, I feel like on TikTok, a lot of the stuff is, do this to make him like you, and sleep with his name under your pillow, and all this shit.
00:57:52.960
And I'm not going to, I'm not going to do that.
00:57:55.680
Like, we're, girls are being really crazy nowadays, and it's like, I'm not, I don't want to, like, be like, I'm looking for a man, and I don't wake up every day being like, I'm on the hunt for a man, you know what I mean?
00:58:15.080
I think there is a lot of things that go on on the internet in today's age that women are trying to do these witchcraft or, you know, mind games that will make the guy like you.
00:58:26.020
But, like, to your point earlier, if a guy wanted to, he would.
00:58:31.540
So, but I also disagree with what you're saying, because I think that it does show initiative if the woman is saying, hey, I want you, this is what I want.
00:58:45.360
Like, if I want to have something with you, I'm going to say that.
00:58:50.900
I would say there's no shame and I'm not going to try to act like I don't have feelings and stuff, you know?
00:58:55.420
Like, I would say, yeah, like, I'll make it clear.
00:59:02.900
Like, like you said earlier, if he asked for a commitment, you would be okay with it.
00:59:07.900
But she did also say earlier that she wouldn't have the conversation herself.
00:59:20.120
But then there's always the way you can tell how a man feels about you and how that conversation is going to go.
00:59:27.760
And do I want to waste my time and hurt my feelings and have that conversation?
00:59:33.980
Like, there's some, maybe I will want it bad enough to have that conversation.
00:59:38.160
But if I know exactly, like, if I have a feeling how that conversation is going to go, then why waste my time?
00:59:43.320
What does he do exactly to, like, make you feel like you can tell how he feels?
00:59:48.920
I don't want to, like, go too much into detail about this situation, to be honest.
01:00:01.280
I don't want to go into detail just because, like, he's still in my life right now.
01:00:05.460
So I'm not trying to air anything out right now.
01:00:11.540
So, like, when you meet a potential lady that you're maybe wanting to invest your time in, do you just, like, when you meet her, you're like, okay, this is waifu material.
01:00:24.900
And this is just, or maybe she's not waifu material, but she's just fun for the meantime.
01:00:31.380
Is that, like, do you put girls when you meet them, like, in that category of this is, like, a long-term relationship material girl?
01:00:39.960
Or is this a girl that I'm just going to do the whole, what did you guys call, booty call thing?
01:00:50.160
When I meet people, I put them into a category.
01:00:54.600
I think I maybe operate a little differently than some men on this, but I'm not even interested.
01:01:00.740
If a girl up front doesn't fall into the potential long-term, potential girlfriend category, not interested.
01:01:08.500
I won't, like, even if I could have sex with her, not interested.
01:01:11.940
So, but she can be in that category, but then, like, as throughout the pursuit, I can be like, oh, there's, like, red flags.
01:01:23.640
And then, but it wouldn't be like she goes into the other category.
01:01:26.560
She goes into the I'm not talking to you anymore category.
01:01:30.960
But, yeah, so, I mean, as far as my vetting and screening for a girl, I'm not going to go out with a girl.
01:01:37.460
I'm not going to sleep with a girl that I don't have long-term interest in.
01:01:40.580
So, I have no interest in sleeping with a girl once, never seeing her again.
01:01:44.340
No interest, like, seeing a girl once or twice, hooking up, and then never seeing her again.
01:01:55.640
The only men that can have multiple O's are the same men that can menstruate.
01:02:00.460
These gals spew the nonsense that passes for education these days.
01:02:12.580
I've, it's exceedingly rare for, I've heard some guys can not have a refractory period.
01:02:20.380
But to be charitable to them, they were saying, well, it's not really that.
01:02:24.960
There is a refractory period, but it's short, and then they can go ten times a night.
01:02:34.240
It's not like, I literally know someone who's gone six rounds.
01:02:38.980
I don't think any of us are claiming that it's super common.
01:02:50.500
Wait, but so, just to go back to your question, Lexi.
01:02:54.220
So, there are guys in, like, who say this whole, like, recreational use only.
01:03:01.080
So, okay, well, she's not worthy of a long-term relationship, but I'll fuck her.
01:03:05.460
Or, she's not worthy of a relationship, but I'll have sex with her for three months and just use her for sex.
01:03:12.800
I don't believe in the recreational use only category because the guys will make a lot of concessions for women in that category, like former sex work, high body count, promiscuity.
01:03:22.720
Um, I don't have the recreational use only category like some of these dudes.
01:03:32.420
So, I'm not, if you don't meet my standards to be in a relationship, not even interested at all.
01:03:48.320
Players aren't like that, but I feel like normal, like, normal guys who just want a girlfriend.
01:03:54.620
Maybe they're not going to pass up the chance for a pussy, but I feel like I got decent, I have decent dick discipline to the point where, like, like, I've had OnlyFans girls on the show that, like, want to, like, I'm not interested.
01:04:06.400
That's exactly what I'm saying, that with discipline, you have enough self, like, sexual discipline to not do those things.
01:04:13.000
And, like, back to, like, what I do for work and stuff, if men had more of what you have, I would not be in business.
01:04:21.500
So, it's, like, finding men that have that mindset is really rare.
01:04:28.260
Because nowadays, a lot of guys are just doing it recreationally, like you said.
01:04:32.420
And what percentage of guys do you guys both think are looking for recreational fun with women versus men that are, like, Brian that just want relationships or, like, wife and material girls?
01:04:52.520
Like, college boys definitely don't really want anything serious.
01:04:55.840
And then when they get a little older, they want.
01:04:57.900
It does depend on age, but I also think it depends on morals.
01:05:02.420
I think it depends on how a guy was raised, if he's looking for a serious relationship, not somebody just to have sex with.
01:05:10.520
I think that's what it really depends on, you know, like, irrelevant of age.
01:05:15.940
Because were you guys saying, was someone saying earlier that for men, it's, like, they want sex, and for women, they ideally want a relationship?
01:05:26.220
But, like, how many men actually do want sex as the ideal?
01:05:31.280
Well, I mean, I think part of it is the men who are pressed for sex are definitely more likely to sleep with women that they otherwise wouldn't be in a relationship with.
01:05:52.560
But then there's also player guys who aren't pressed for sex, but it's, like, they just conquest that sort of just don't want commitment or whatever.
01:06:10.060
So, yeah, so you have that mindset right now, which most 35-year-old men do, but what were you doing when you were 20?
01:06:19.680
Were you just looking for a girlfriend, or were you sleeping around?
01:06:23.360
I've had, I mean, I've been relationship-minded most of my life, even when I was younger.
01:06:29.140
I perhaps was a little more casual when I was younger, but I never, even when I was younger, I never had an interest in, like, for example, I never had an interest in sleeping with a girl just once.
01:06:51.980
I always, if I wanted to sleep with a girl, I wanted there to be continuity.
01:06:59.140
But did I, when I was younger, I had, like, some shorter-term relationships that maybe lasted a few months, but always been fairly relationship-minded, even when I was younger.
01:07:14.540
So I actually encountered, though, when I was younger, the women wanted the one-night stand.
01:07:20.800
So I even encountered the situation where I was wanting something more.
01:07:26.040
This happened maybe, I don't know, two times or something.
01:07:29.140
And she was like, I was like, hey, let's hang out, let's do something.
01:07:34.240
And then she was like, nah, I want to be a whore, to put it bluntly, basically.
01:07:43.740
Do you think that stems from anything, like what you learned when you were growing up that made you realize that you don't want to be part of hookup culture?
01:08:03.640
Yo, killer of cereal, thank you for the TTS, man.
01:08:27.940
So to answer your question, well, there's, I guess, two ways to look at this.
01:08:33.460
So even if your motivation is sex, I always thought to myself, like, the best sex, maybe people will disagree.
01:08:43.380
I think the best sex you're going to have is with somebody you're regularly seeing, somebody you have a connection with, somebody you have a relationship with, someone you have a connection, comfort with.
01:08:54.540
Like, if you sleep with a girl, like, even if your motivation is like you just want to have sex, typically I don't think the first time you have sex with somebody is going to be the best time you have sex with that individual.
01:09:06.580
It can still be good, but, I mean, first off, as you get to know the person, just speaking on a practical level, you know what they like, they know what you like, you guys have each other totally figure out and wired.
01:09:24.640
And so even just looking at it on the sex level, I was like, and then, well, I mean, if you want to factor in, like, and then there's a, the comfort component, though, is also, like, the risk of STDs, too.
01:09:37.040
Like, if you're with one person, they're with you, like, there's, it alleviates some of the worry about, you know, potentially STD.
01:09:44.300
If you're sleeping with a new girl every single weekend and she's doing the same, it's, like, a little bit, it's certainly risky.
01:09:55.520
Trying to, what was the, sorry, what was the question again?
01:09:57.440
Like, what was, was there anything that led you to that?
01:10:04.680
And honestly, it's just, like, at least from the guy's perspective, it's just, as somebody who's been for a pretty long time very focused on goals and stuff, it's an absolute waste of time trying to, like, regularly source, like, a new girl.
01:10:19.920
It's just a massive investment to, like, constantly be going on dates, being on the dating apps, messaging, like, 100 different chicks.
01:10:29.680
And as, I think, as a guy, if you're with a really good girl, uh, and you're, like, focused on something, like, if you're an entrepreneur trying to do a business, whatever, you don't have time to be wasting, like, talking to, like, juggling 10 different girls, going on dates, going on dating apps.
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It's much better if you have a really solid girl there with you who's going to support you.
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She's going to be able to help you, like, get to where you need to be.
01:10:59.960
If you have a good girl, though, if you're in a relationship with a chick, she can absolutely fuck your shit up, too.
01:11:08.040
So if you are going to be, like, entrepreneur on your grind, on your hustle, you got to have the right girl or you got to, honestly, you got to be.
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If you get involved with the wrong dude, he's going to fuck your life up.
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So that's why you got to, you got to be very careful with your time and who you give your attention to.
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Because, like, the wrong person will fuck your life up.
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You get the wrong friends in your life, he'll fuck your shit up massively.
01:11:55.880
But I completely agree because my relationship, the longest one was when I was 13 to 20 years old.
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And it was the worst of the worst that you can ever experience from a relationship.
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And it just, my whole, basically, childhood into adulthood was totally messed up by just choosing the wrong person to want to be in a serious, long-term relationship with.
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Patreon.com slash whatever if you want to sign up.
01:13:09.660
Nick, could you pull up the thing we're going to react to?
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I haven't met a fun and interesting man in so long.
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I meet good-looking men who make great money who are also very sweet, but they're so boring.
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So, haven't met a fun and interesting man in so long.
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So, they treat her well, but they're so boring.
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Going around the table, have you had this experience?
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I feel like boring people attract boring people.
01:13:56.440
I feel like I haven't really had that experience.
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Maybe with the most attractive men that I've been with, I will say they can tend to have
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somewhat duller personalities, but I still wouldn't consider them boring.
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I think probably her picker is just off, if that's what she keeps finding.
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I don't think I've ever had that be a problem in my life.
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I just want to say that that tweet was very, it didn't give much context to what she was
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saying, but if you, it's a mindset thing, and if you're meeting men that are good-looking
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and have great careers, but you feel like they're boring, maybe you're just not at that
01:14:51.480
Because maybe you just drink all day and go out every night, and they got priorities and
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goals, and maybe your guys' goals and priorities are not aligning.
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And that's where I can see it being boring, but also then again, like, you're not choosing
01:15:12.140
Yeah, I don't think I've ever been with, like, a boring guy or, like, someone that I've
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I shockingly agree with Lexi, in that I think if you are with a man that you think is good
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and then you find him boring, you're not ready to settle down.
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And it's what Ava said, like, maybe you're boring, too.
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Would you be with a, can you pull the tweet up, back up really quick?
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I'm pretty sure that's what she said, if you can pull it up really quick.
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Okay, so would you be with a guy who's not fun, who's not interesting, and who's boring?
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I mean, I feel like that's subjective, but no, I guess I wouldn't.
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I don't keep anybody around in my life that's not.
01:16:08.580
They can be, this person could be really good looking, be a great person, treat you well,
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be stable, job, et cetera, good family, whatever, no red flags, but they're not interesting,
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I don't know if that changes the answer for you guys.
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Like, are you just saying, like, this person is, like, evergreen flag, but they're just,
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I mean, I wouldn't be surrounded, I don't surround myself around boring people, so I probably
01:16:41.340
wouldn't, even if they're good looking, I'm not interested.
01:16:49.740
I just feel like, yeah, like, I wouldn't be with them if they were boring, no matter
01:16:55.820
I would definitely date them, and I think I could bring fun and excitement to their life,
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and, you know, I could get them to go on vacations, go out, and just make their life
01:17:09.080
So, I guess my question is, I sort of already asked it, but so, would you rather be with a
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boring guy, but there's never any conflict, arguing, or with a really entertaining, fun,
01:17:23.420
interesting guy, but there's constant conflict and arguing?
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That's such a difficult hypothetical, because I feel like I've, like, one of my biggest values
01:17:37.620
in life would be, like, having, or values when looking for a partner would be having somebody
01:17:42.440
that, like, can bring fun and intellectual stimulation, like, just me personally, that's
01:17:47.420
something I would want, but I, honestly, yeah, over, I've been in a relationship where it's
01:17:53.540
a ton of fighting and arguing, and I definitely do not want to go back to that, so I would
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choose a solid, boring guy at the end of the day in that situation, yeah.
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I'd rather have fun sometimes and fight sometimes, honestly, because...
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Yeah, because if you think about it, you could be, like, well, it's good most of the time.
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Too expensive in Nevada, limited geographically.
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In Germany, clubs everywhere, SX with hot girls equals $100, BJ equals $50, no tipping slash
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I'll write it down, because I want to get through this.
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So the breakdown would be that it's, for the really entertaining, fun, interesting guy,
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So the other option is boring guy, but never any conflict arguing.
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No, because I'd rather just like, as I said, I'd rather be single, but I have to choose.
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So the first relationship, that's not even a relationship.
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If you're not having fun, then what's the point?
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So I'd rather have fun sometimes, and then fight the other times, because at least I'm
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Because the other time, you're not fighting, but you're having no fun.
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I value my peace, so I will just, I guess, choose the boring guy.
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Being in a really, really toxic relationship, that was fun, but toxic, I would rather be with
01:20:13.160
So did only you, I think only you picked the, okay.
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Wait, I want to ask the chat that's actually, chat.
01:20:29.320
So boring girl, boring girl, but never any conflict arguing, or a girl who's really entertaining
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and fun and interesting, but it's 50% of the time it's good, 50% of the time, constant
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So boring, or fun, boring, no conflict, entertaining, fun, 50% of the time there's conflict.
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I feel like I'm okay with boring if he's just like, oh, I just want to stay home and watch
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Like, if he's treating me right, I'm fine with boring.
01:21:20.280
He's a nice, he's nice, treats you well, but like, no charisma.
01:21:48.680
Yeah, you guys can talk, but it's very, it's kind of, he's a good communicator, but it's
01:21:56.780
But he's listening to everything I'm saying, though.
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I think it depends, like, how much you have those factors fulfilled in your other relationships
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Like, if you have friends that are really fun and entertaining, I'm like, then maybe it
01:22:26.780
I just wonder if this is a differential between men and women.
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I don't know if it's the case that, like, men will look to women to be their entertainment
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But, like, women will look to men to be these, like, dancing monkeys.
01:22:49.100
So, I know you're saying, well, no, I don't agree with that.
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But do you all want a guy who's funny who can make you laugh?
01:22:59.000
What percentage of man, like, how high on the totem pole is it for a man, for the man,
01:23:17.680
But you are kind of looking to be entertained because every girl wants a guy who's funny
01:23:25.500
I think in any relationship, like, a friendship or a relationship, I would want someone that
01:23:32.860
has what I consider to be, like, a good, charismatic personality.
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But look, if she's not boring, that's not, and she's a good person, it's not, like, terrible.
01:24:06.080
If you got a bland personality, I don't really, I need somebody with a good personality.
01:24:11.400
There's a huge percentage of men that never look for their comedic relief or entertainment
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entertainment through the woman that they're with, just realistically.
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Yeah, I don't, I don't need a girl to, like, make me laugh.
01:24:45.400
So sense of humor is she gets, she gets that I'm being funny.
01:24:56.960
It's just because you want to be the funny one.
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Like, I feel like I saw a study about that or something where, like, men, when men say
01:25:07.980
they want a girl that's funny and women say they want a guy that's funny, a woman actually
01:25:13.040
But, man, he wants somebody that, when he says he wants a funny woman, they want her to
01:25:20.700
I'm going to say a very specific experience for me personally, but my father has told me many
01:25:28.740
You know, the type of stories we tell, like, of the day we had or anything, and we try to
01:25:32.840
tell a straight male about that story, and they're like, okay, why do I care about this?
01:25:38.240
If it's not, if it's just about your daily stuff, they're not looking to be entertained
01:25:41.900
by the things that you tell them during the day.
01:26:02.740
How far can charisma carry a relationship until the woman is tired of the same old trope?
01:26:09.920
Let me see if there's any that came through that we missed.
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I'll see if I can, like, change it up really quick and see if I can pull them up.
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He asked, like, one about the brothels, the legalization.
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What was the one he just asked right now, though?
01:27:10.360
That's a classic, like, male behavior thing to say.
01:27:16.220
No, I need a girl who can see so she can, like, do chores and stuff.
01:27:25.700
You know, a girl that doesn't talk and gives you pussy, buy a pocket pussy.
01:27:37.340
So, what's the point of being in a relationship for you then?
01:27:39.080
But the PP can't do dishes and clean the house and take care of the kids.
01:27:49.480
Do you think that women who are mute aren't deserving of a relationship?
01:28:00.240
How cute of you to freaking flip it like that, Brian.
01:28:10.440
I am such a nice guy that I would date a woman who can't speak because I don't discriminate.
01:28:21.980
When you said it kind of just sounded like you were dating an amputee.
01:28:28.740
No, but you did say if the woman was mute, you should just get a pee.
01:28:41.820
Okay, so are you going to put in the effort to listen to what she has to say if she's going
01:28:46.920
Or do you want to be with her because she's mute?
01:28:48.220
I'm not going to learn sign language, but like...
01:28:50.160
But then how are you not going to learn sign language for somebody that's mute, though?
01:28:53.960
How are you going to tell her to get a dry erase board?
01:28:56.940
Okay, but also, Brian, what would be the point?
01:29:05.080
But what would be the point of having a girlfriend if she can't talk to you or if she's not funny?
01:29:17.260
Like, I would hate waking up in the morning and turning around and seeing a girl or a
01:29:35.340
The deaf community is going to fucking come after you, bro.
01:29:43.340
But anyways, if they couldn't make me laugh, I would be mortified.
01:29:47.520
Like, I could not wake up in the morning every day.
01:29:56.780
And would you be able to laugh if they said something funny?
01:29:58.460
But that's not what we were talking about, though.
01:30:17.700
If he woke up and the woman couldn't talk to him.
01:30:19.100
But he said he wouldn't have a woman that couldn't talk.
01:30:27.500
We were just saying that he would rather have her be mute just for the clearing case.
01:30:40.340
It was like, what's the hottest thing someone can do to turn you on or something like that?
01:30:47.420
What's the hottest thing somebody could do in public that would turn you on?
01:31:02.280
Say like a moral act, you know, just something that demonstrates that they're a good person.
01:31:20.500
What is the hottest thing you can ever see a man or woman do in the real world in society
01:31:24.380
that it was a little different that would immediately turn you on to them?
01:31:36.140
Hottest thing a woman can do in the real world.
01:31:39.400
I would say someone who smells really good or is like really good at like a sport.
01:31:44.660
A girl who plays cello really well, like virtuoso cello, she can get it.
01:32:24.620
How far can charisma carry a relationship until the woman is tired of the same old trope?
01:32:34.220
It doesn't really make sense if he's charismatic.
01:32:36.600
Like, it's going to keep on carrying the relationship.
01:32:42.060
Did you talk with a charismatic guy after he fucked your best friend?
01:32:48.620
I wasn't speaking about you specifically, but that did...
01:32:56.480
I don't know if you guys saw at the beginning of the show, her boyfriend sort of-ish at the
01:33:37.560
So, guys, we are going to bump the TTS to $200.
01:33:46.700
If we do two champagne pops, we have two more champagne bottles.
01:33:51.620
I will show you the video of 23-year-old Brian.
01:34:18.120
Not, we won't buy, like, another one and give it to you.
01:34:25.040
Oh, and it will be signed by me, Madison, and if Andrew's here, by Andrew, but he might
01:35:07.160
I never take offense to anything you say, Brian.
01:35:13.080
But, when it comes to the prostitution, I don't know definitively if I have a position
01:35:26.720
Do any of you girls believe in that manifestation BS?
01:35:30.660
Do you believe you have some supernatural ability to manifest your desires into reality?
01:35:36.320
I think most men will agree that's a huge red flag.
01:35:43.800
Can we speak on the one before, before we say that one, in answer to that?
01:35:51.800
And I think that prostitution, porn, nudity online in general should all be illegal.
01:35:58.160
And I think that would help society a lot more than what it's like now.
01:36:09.060
I feel like, besides that, the internet in general has completely ruined our society.
01:36:16.480
Then, on top of it, all the nudity, there's been porn addictions.
01:36:20.540
There has been people cheating throughout that.
01:36:29.640
But making it illegal wouldn't stop people from doing it anyways.
01:36:35.760
Do you think that making it legal would make people do it a lot more?
01:36:49.620
It's just a part of our day-to-day life at this point.
01:36:51.640
If someone's going to cheat, they're going to cheat either way.
01:37:03.220
I can see why you think that, and I definitely can understand where you're coming from.
01:37:08.200
But at the end of the day, when something is made illegal like that, it's just going
01:37:14.220
to create working conditions that are more dangerous.
01:37:24.440
Just logistically, I just feel like that's a pretty wild thing to do.
01:37:36.820
Sometimes you see like the societies that are more repressed.
01:37:38.800
Yeah, also, it would put the men that are trying to get prostitutes also in prison.
01:37:45.260
I'm not just saying that any of the women that are prostituting would just get jailed.
01:37:50.080
I'm saying men that are seeking prostitutes would also be jailed.
01:37:56.860
I'm not just saying, oh, all prostitutes jailed.
01:37:59.460
I'm saying anyone that is seeking that out when it was made illegal, they would both
01:38:07.920
And like, and just, I don't know, in societies that are more like conservative and repressed
01:38:12.940
and stuff, like, it gets to the point where it's like, actually, no, I'm not even going
01:38:20.320
And then there was the one, do you, any of you girls believe in manifestation?
01:38:28.540
So when you're believing to, like, manifest a good career or a good lifestyle, you implement
01:38:37.200
that into your every day-to-day, and it's like, yeah.
01:38:42.060
You say you're going to wake up and have a good day, that's you manifesting you're going
01:38:47.020
Manifestation isn't like, you're doing, like, some hocus pocus shit.
01:38:52.340
No, I just think that just, like, when you, like, think those things, you, like, start
01:39:01.040
I'm surprisingly, again, going to agree with Lexi that if you believe in yourself and you
01:39:05.540
believe that you can do something, then you'll do it.
01:39:07.780
I don't think the manifesting and writing it down and doing all that is going to do anything
01:39:12.060
for you, but if you believe in yourself, then you can do whatever you believe in.
01:39:30.080
I mean, at least when I pray, I kind of just, like, yeah, like, I wish for, like, good health
01:39:34.300
and stuff for my family, but, I mean, I wouldn't really, like, say that I'm, like, I pray
01:39:41.060
I don't really, like, pray for, like, a big house or anything, but I feel like.
01:40:11.020
You said you have no crazy date stories, but your friends and I got approached by an old
01:40:14.780
man at the nude beach who bought our panties for $100 each.
01:40:50.980
So, basically, we were all in our, like, exploratory, adventurous phase, you know?
01:40:58.480
Me and my friends are kind of, like, hippie, whatever.
01:41:05.660
And when we were there, we were all sitting, and I still, like, stayed in it.
01:41:12.740
Like, you don't have to take off your everything to, like, be at the nude beach.
01:41:17.240
Like, you can be fully clothed, whatever, but you're allowed to.
01:41:19.920
And one of my friends had her top off, and then she was, like, looking at, like, her swim bottoms and examining them, I guess.
01:41:30.380
Like, she thought she had, like, a period stain or something, and this guy walked by.
01:41:34.400
And, like, she was embarrassed when he saw that she was doing that.
01:41:37.920
But then later, we're talking, and he comes up, and he comes up to us and just says,
01:41:42.100
Hey, by the way, like, I swear I never do this, but that was, that really turned me on seeing you.
01:41:52.140
And I guess he's saying that he never does it, but it really turns him on, and he would be willing to pay her for the panties.
01:42:00.260
And, um, we, at first, she was, like, no, but then we were, like, well, for how much?
01:42:08.220
And he, at first, like, said 50, and then she, like, got him to go up, and then eventually he said,
01:42:16.140
Listen, I'll give you guys each $100 if you give me your panties.
01:42:23.020
And so, I'm, like, like, I didn't, like, who would say, yeah, the bikini bottoms, yeah.
01:42:36.840
Did he, like, watch you guys take him off and get him?
01:42:38.820
No, so he actually left and drove to the ATM to, like, get cash out, and we went into the car,
01:42:44.260
and then, like, I felt, I actually felt bad because one of the pairs, like, like, because
01:42:51.480
we had just gone swimming, like, there wasn't even, because I, I'm, like, I feel like dudes
01:42:55.520
buy panties so they can sniff them, so we, like, we got one of our friends who, like,
01:43:02.360
she, like, like, you know, we rubbed the, it, yeah, it was fucking nuts, dude, because
01:43:13.540
So, that was, like, the way you were just, like, uh-huh, yep, yeah.
01:43:21.480
I mean, back then, like, if you go up to, like, an 18-year-old and you're, like, I give
01:43:26.120
you a hundred bucks, like, and this was five, five or six years ago, like, I don't know.
01:43:48.140
I like Graffito tagged as a username a little better.
01:43:54.120
You're stealing his, his TTS trigger, Graffito.
01:44:05.760
So, okay, he, he was like, I saw that your girlfriend was on her period.
01:44:11.540
He saw that she was, like, inspecting her panties.
01:44:17.740
She thought she was, like, spotting, like, sometimes women will, I mean, I don't remember
01:44:23.040
It's because she was, he, yeah, I guess he wanted to, like, sniff them.
01:44:27.580
I mean, I've seen it on, I remember I've seen Orange is the New Black, and there was
01:44:30.840
a season where they, like, had a panty selling ring.
01:44:49.500
I wouldn't sell my underwear for a hundred bucks.
01:44:53.920
I've had people message me, I'm a streamer, and I've had people message me asking for
01:44:58.660
things, and I tell them, that's completely disrespectful.
01:45:07.780
But also in person, the absurdity of being in person.
01:45:11.960
If you were really young, also, I, like, I can't lie, if I was very young and some guy
01:45:18.220
came up to me and they're offering me a hundred dollars at the time, if I wasn't
01:45:28.300
Is he asking every woman at the beach to do that?
01:45:42.520
Because, like, on the internet, like, if somebody messaged me that on the internet, I would be,
01:45:47.960
Like, I would be, like, yeah, that's, I don't, I don't know.
01:45:51.200
Did you see, like, him, like, sniffing it afterwards?
01:45:55.640
And I'm, like, just, I don't want to care, see if I'm over again.
01:46:21.180
Other things, I can't think of off the top of my head.
01:46:25.240
Oh, you wanted to mention that Desiree is crazy.
01:46:35.820
Before we have you do that, who should pay on the first date?
01:46:44.700
I mean, I always come prepared to pay for my half.
01:46:48.740
So, I mean, if it's like a first date, I would expect to go 50-50.
01:46:53.640
I don't, at this day and age, I don't expect the guy to like pay on the first date.
01:47:00.920
Because like, even if I invite a friend out to dinner, like, let me take you out to dinner
01:47:05.020
for your birthday or whatever, obviously I'm going to pay for it.
01:47:07.420
So, if the guy is like, let me take you out, then I would expect it's his treat.
01:47:38.500
I mean like our first date, we went to the pier.
01:48:09.960
So you just basically come over and fuck, basically.
01:48:21.860
Well, when you say eat at home, like you'll get takeout.
01:48:37.180
I've definitely cooked for him a few times at his place.
01:48:55.040
I think it would be very feminist if women would always pay and women would simp and women
01:49:03.540
I think that would change society and it would be very feminist for all of society.
01:49:07.500
That wouldn't be feminist because feminism is equality.
01:49:27.760
I will come back to the feminism is about equality thing.
01:49:32.660
We need to get through the notes and talk about the.
01:49:59.760
Bigger deal if a man wants to split as compared to a woman wanting to split.
01:50:14.180
So how do you work that out when you're dating a woman?
01:50:20.760
Like it's just kind of the societal standard I guess of our dating ritual.
01:50:25.780
And I just think that it's like a signifier of.
01:50:47.700
Well what are you looking for when you're dating a woman?
01:51:07.080
So you just like hit it and quit it with the ladies?
01:51:33.120
Since you're pretty much the only one at the table.
01:51:52.600
But I just think with our cultural standards set.
01:52:24.640
So you said you want a guy to be chivalrous and traditional.
01:52:27.680
Like just taking the more feminine role in things.
01:52:36.500
And this applies to romantic relationships or society in general?
01:52:54.760
I assume you want men and women to have equal opportunity when it comes to work.
01:53:10.920
I don't think that it should just be equal pay.
01:53:21.400
Because this is a holdover from when women were not really entering the workforce.
01:53:28.080
And there was an expectation on men to be sole breadwinners and providers.
01:53:38.360
Like I wouldn't go full out there because in today's society like that's just not super realistic and attainable.
01:53:44.320
In most households nowadays, most relationships, both partners are going to have to have a job to be able to afford to live a comfortable life.
01:53:52.380
So the dynamics are going to be slightly different.
01:53:56.300
I mean unless you're like – why do I think that both people have to work?
01:54:02.980
No, but so why do you think that it's now like you need two people to work to support a family?
01:54:18.740
So I just want to preface this by saying I don't think it's wrong.
01:54:22.800
But I mean the reason that it's the way it is is because when you essentially double the labor pool, it cheapens the cost of labor.
01:54:36.240
If you double the labor pool – and that's effectively what we did when there's this massive – again, not saying it's wrong, but when we say hey, there's this massive push, feminist push.
01:54:48.140
They should disregard at least in their 20s pursuing family and children, wait until your late 20s, 30s, then you can have kids, and then still pursue a career, and then just pay somebody else child support to raise your kids instead of you raising your kids.
01:55:03.060
Essentially, you double the workforce, double the labor pool.
01:55:10.140
And so when it used to be the case, one income could support a family because that's what – that's how it worked.
01:55:18.520
But now there's double the labor pool essentially.
01:55:24.240
I mean I'm not going to argue with you on that just because I'm not educated or like feel like confident to be able to speak on that topic.
01:55:32.640
But I will say – I mean I've seen statistics that show that like – and I mean maybe it is because of that.
01:55:40.400
I feel like there's probably a ton of different things that contribute to it.
01:55:43.620
But, yeah, I've seen statistics that show that just like the wage and keeping up with the cost of living.
01:55:48.300
For some reason we're having a cost of living crisis.
01:55:50.380
So I guess to bring it back to the men should pay for – men should pay for dates.
01:56:01.140
Do you think that men should pay for first dates for all women?
01:56:03.700
If it goes – if it goes well if it's a woman that they're wanting to pursue in a serious relationship.
01:56:19.560
Was it boring when you hooked up and smoked crack with me two weeks ago?
01:56:23.920
After we had been broken up for two months and begged for me to take you back?
01:56:40.800
Are you – my ex-boyfriend is definitely not watching this.
01:56:46.340
Did you smoke crack – what was it, two weeks ago?
01:57:03.280
So you were saying – I asked you, should men pay for dates for all women?
01:57:13.840
I mean it depends on what type of woman it is and –
01:57:17.960
Well, do you think all women are deserving of having a first date paid for them?
01:57:30.160
Well, there's not much for me to argue with on that because my position –
01:57:33.760
I mean if some chick is like – you know, she's totally rude on the date and like, yeah, why would you?
01:57:42.500
What do you think about if she's like speaking to other guys?
01:57:45.140
Yeah, if it's – if it's – if it doesn't go well, if it's not what you're looking for, then –
01:57:52.920
So, I mean, I think as a general practice, if as a man you want the high success rate, you should pay for the first date.
01:58:00.360
But I actually don't think – honestly, probably most women aren't deserving of being – of chivalrous treatment.
01:58:16.700
But chivalrous treatment goes beyond just respect.
01:58:19.840
It says my time is more valuable than your time.
01:58:24.180
If you don't pay for it, there won't be a second date.
01:58:26.900
A lot of women make this argument of, well, if he doesn't pay for the date, there won't be a second date.
01:58:36.460
Refractory periods of a few minutes are purely anecdotal.
01:58:40.780
Since men never brag about their prowess, we should believe them all.
01:58:45.280
When on crack coke, I manifest hawk-tuous every five minutes.
01:58:58.420
But for now, this wild buck has to roam free, or he will die.
01:59:02.660
Even when I was a young buck, young stud, five minutes, it was not fun.
01:59:14.680
So you think that there's a higher success rate for a man to stay with a woman if they pay on the first date?
01:59:22.920
Uh, it's just the most optimum – okay, if you look at dating, if you're looking at it, using an analogy here, like chess, paying for the date in every instance is the optimum chess move.
01:59:35.880
Because while it might not necessarily – some women, it won't – if you split or whatever, won't have an impact.
01:59:43.380
If there's enough women where it will, and you won't know until that check comes and you pull the move or whatever, the most optimum move is to just pay for the date.
01:59:53.080
But if we're having a conversation of, like, about fairness and egalitarianism and, like, how many women are feminists and not ladylike who are demanding chivalrous gentlemanly treatment, then we can have a conversation about, like, what's fair?
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And I don't think women deserve men to be chivalrous if they're not ladies.
02:00:17.180
And to be fair, there's not a lot of – I wouldn't say there's not a bunch of gentlemen out there either.
02:00:22.740
But that's the current dating landscape, dating climate.
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Most women I don't think are deserving of chivalry because they themselves are not ladies or ladylike.
02:00:33.120
I was asking that specifically because the past few first dates that I've had, I've offered to pay, and they let me pay, and I'm wondering if that wasn't the optimal choice to make in that situation.
02:00:48.160
It just – to continue to have other dates after that.
02:00:53.080
Maybe it's because they think that you're not interested.
02:00:59.540
You think that they think I'm not interested, and that's why I chose to pay?
02:01:02.480
Have you tried, like, speaking to them afterwards about your interest?
02:01:11.000
I'm always very straightforward with my interest.
02:01:12.920
Guys taking the lead in some aspects, like paying on the first date.
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Do you think that was too masculine of me to do that?
02:01:23.620
It seems like you're even second-guessing yourself there.
02:01:30.220
I don't think that would make a guy turn away from you.
02:01:35.400
Yeah, I don't think – I mean, some guys might welcome it.
02:01:39.340
I don't think it's going to – like, if you offer to pay, I don't think it's going to, like, turn them off of wanting to pursue you or anything.
02:01:46.040
So – and, I mean, if a girl offers, it's kind of a nice gesture.
02:01:52.040
But, no, I mean, now I'm just, like, I'm just going to pay for everything.
02:02:02.160
But I'm in a place – I'm, like, in a place to, so.
02:02:11.060
Or you're saying that you think most women aren't ladylike?
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So, lack of promiscuity, both current and past.
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Not to say that some women can't be redeemed, but if she has a past of promiscuity, I think immediately – now, she'll probably still want guys to pay for dates, and she can still get it.
02:02:35.000
But, again, if we're just having, like, a conversation here at the panel discussion about dating, I don't think that type of woman is deserving of a guy being traditional.
02:02:53.620
I don't think she's deserving of having a date paid for.
02:02:59.140
You weren't – you aren't – you're not a traditional woman.
02:03:02.620
Also, if she's currently, like, if she's dating other men, don't think she's deserving of you paying for a date.
02:03:11.420
If she's sleeping with another guy, obviously, there's no scenario where if a girl is sleeping with another dude – now, she might not tell you, right?
02:03:21.320
But, like, if we're just looking at it, bird's eye view, removed from the situation, if we know those are the – what's going on, if a girl is sleeping with another guy, there's no way that the guy – like, if she's going on a date with another guy.
02:03:38.700
Like, how are you going to – how are you going to give a girl chivalry when, like, after the date that you so generously and gentlemanly pay for, she goes to the guy's house who she's fucking and fucks him?
02:03:51.580
I'd say you shouldn't be dating if you're – like, if you go on a date with somebody, for me, I would hope it would be under the pretenses of, like, you're looking for a relationship.
02:04:00.380
A lot of people in the dating landscape are seeing multiple people, dating multiple people, sometimes sleeping with one, two, three other people.
02:04:10.760
And it's like, you want me to pay on a date, but you fucked a guy last night?
02:04:28.620
If they're on a dating app, probably got to go and assume –
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I mean, I guess – on dating apps, too, like, people put their intentions, you know.
02:04:40.740
But have been in friends with – who are in friends with benefits situations six months, eight months.
02:04:59.460
I'd say that for – in those situations, it's like, yeah, you just have to have a good picker on who you're going to go on a first date with.
02:05:06.040
I mean, at the end of the day, yeah, you could go on a date with some woman who's, like, a total liar.
02:05:10.260
And she's like, yes, like, I'm not seeing anybody, whatever.
02:05:14.280
But I think that if you screen the right people and, like, you're not just going on dates with, like, random hoes and you're like, hey, what are your values?
02:05:21.820
What are your – like, do you engage in hookup culture?
02:05:28.360
If you go on a date with somebody like that that is genuinely looking for a relationship and isn't doing that and is looking for, like, a more traditional thing, then, yeah, you should absolutely manage to pay on the first date.
02:05:41.040
But I think it's up to those people who are going on the date to, like, do proper screening, to, like, go on a date with somebody that does deserve it.
02:05:50.240
Nick, let's go to Twitch really quick, then we'll get into more pre-show notes.
02:05:53.020
Guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever, drop us a follow and a Prime sub.
02:05:57.120
It's been a minute since we last had a Prime, but it's probably got re-bugged.
02:06:09.380
Guys, go to discord.gg slash whatever, drop us a follow and a Prime sub if you have one, discord.gg slash whatever, if discord.gg slash whatever.
02:06:19.960
Your next notes here, you say, if you, Brian, doesn't want to get married, no one should have to convince you as long as you're transparent about that.
02:06:29.560
That's just one of your dating preferences that women can either take or leave.
02:06:32.400
You might have a slightly harder time finding a solid, more trad, non-strumpet woman, though.
02:06:52.980
I don't see the issue with you not wanting to get married.
02:06:58.080
But you said I should, as long as you're transparent about it.
02:07:01.460
Yeah, as long as a woman knows if somebody's dating for marriage.
02:07:06.080
I mean, if you're engaging in a relationship with someone, you see it going somewhere, and I feel like you guys should, and in any relationship, you should know what you're looking for.
02:07:15.980
Do you guys, so just to give you guys context, if you don't know, I don't see myself ever getting married.
02:07:21.360
Not to say that I don't want to have, well, I do want to have a long-term relationship.
02:07:27.600
I could date the same person for 10, 20, 30, 40 years, monogamous, have kids, et cetera.
02:07:33.140
Just don't want to have the marriage, get the state involved, the government involved.
02:07:39.220
So with that said, do you think that I have a duty when I'm starting to date a girl early on to be transparent and disclose this to a girl?
02:07:59.380
Yeah, I would say that's a weird thing to mention on the first date.
02:08:04.640
That would honestly scare a girl away, because why are you already talking about marriage?
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But maybe after, like, four years, you should mention it.
02:08:22.500
Um, I'm getting older, so I think anyone that I'm with or that's with me, we should be straight up.
02:08:30.040
We should tell exactly what we're looking for, and if they're not interested, that's the end of it.
02:08:34.480
So I think you should be completely transparent from the get-go.
02:08:37.280
Like, first date, say, this is what I'm looking for, you're not interested, then that's that.
02:08:45.120
So wouldn't that make you nontraditional, though?
02:08:53.840
So in some ways, I'm traditional, in other ways, I'm not.
02:08:58.260
The last couple podcasts I was here, I said the same thing.
02:09:01.680
I said, in some ways, I'm traditional, in some ways, I'm not.
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And you got on my ass about it, and you were like, nope, you can't be one or the other.
02:09:12.180
So I'm finally here to say on social media that gotcha there, and it's perfectly okay.
02:09:18.660
Like, I still have love for you, and we agree on that part.
02:09:28.620
So while I don't want to get married, I'm very much interested and can have a long-term monogamous relationship that may or may not involve children.
02:09:40.500
Perhaps you could say that this is not traditional, but I don't know if it's a fair comparison because you are a prostitute.
02:09:49.040
And I'm not saying that to insult you, but I'm just stating it's a fact.
02:09:59.240
But the degree to which you are non-traditional-
02:10:05.080
A traditional value would be to get married and to not have sex with anybody before marriage and to get married to that person.
02:10:23.600
That you're non-traditional in some aspects, and that's okay.
02:10:27.680
But the difference is that I don't really claim to be this stalwart-
02:10:42.380
I was just pointing it out that that was pretty cool and interesting.
02:10:58.620
I don't know if it was really a gotcha, though.
02:11:00.820
But it was like a good point of growth right there.
02:11:11.220
Like, you just said that you were kind of traditional, kind of not.
02:11:14.540
And I was like, that's exactly something that I said from the last podcast.
02:11:17.300
Well, so here's, for example, you might be like, well, Brian, can you really demand a traditional woman then?
02:11:25.860
Because sometimes people will say, well, Brian, you want a trad woman.
02:11:28.720
But it's like, I will date a woman who will have premarital sex in the same way that I have premarital sex.
02:11:34.840
You could say it's non-traditional to have premarital sex.
02:11:47.560
You're trying to dig deeper than where it has to go.
02:11:52.520
No, but you want to, like, go deeper than what it is.
02:11:57.000
I'm just saying that we can both agree that we have.
02:12:04.340
But we can move on from this because that's all I have to say.
02:12:09.120
So, I can't agree because the degree to which engaging in sex work, prostitution, that is such a degree of non-traditional.
02:12:23.980
But you can't be a non-trad guy and say, hey, that's not traditional either when you're not traditional.
02:12:43.880
So, you will say, for example, here's my expectations of a guy.
02:12:48.760
And you'll say, well, I want these sorts of traditional things in a guy.
02:12:52.820
And I think in the previous show, I pointed out, well, you have these expectations of traditional treatment from men, but you're engaged in sex work.
02:13:04.440
And so, excuse me, that's not really, like, doesn't really mesh.
02:13:09.620
But I said that if I were to be in a relationship with a guy, that I wouldn't want my boyfriend wanting me to do those things anyways.
02:13:20.200
So, that's where I told you that I was partial traditional and partial not.
02:14:07.500
I'm not saying, like, come out on the very first date and be like, I refuse to get married.
02:14:12.360
But, like, you know, just if you begin casually dating someone, you could see it going somewhere.
02:14:18.820
I think it should be something they're aware of.
02:14:23.160
Do you think women should be transparent about their body count?
02:14:28.380
I mean, again, I would say maybe on the first date.
02:14:31.100
Like, that that's a little, like, a bit of a strange encounter.
02:14:47.580
I actually don't mind that you guys are vaping.
02:14:49.700
But, like, have you guys been hitting her vape?
02:15:08.540
It doesn't bother you that she sucks dick for a living?
02:15:18.780
It's not like she has dick in her mouth right now.
02:15:24.340
You know, but, like, it doesn't bother you that she's a woman of the night?
02:15:29.420
Damn, it doesn't bother you that I'm a woman of the night and I'm literally just sitting
02:15:33.460
Well, I wouldn't, like, share a, I wouldn't share a vape or, like.
02:15:39.160
Yeah, but, like, if, if you share, if you put your lips on something.
02:15:44.060
Don't make me come over there and give you a hug.
02:15:46.160
Don't make me come over there and give you a hug.
02:15:50.920
Yes, but you can't get rid of an STD from your brush.
02:15:54.080
I mean, are you trying to say that I sucked some dick right downstairs in your alley?
02:16:01.700
She didn't suck a dick and then walk through the door.
02:16:03.860
Did I just suck some peen and then come right through your doors and then come right in here?
02:16:08.720
And also the worry about STDs that you said, sex workers are typically the most safe about
02:16:25.540
Herpes can be caught by just using the, you can smoke a cigarette of someone if they have
02:16:30.280
You can get herpes from literally drinking out of the same cup.
02:16:35.460
That's why I wouldn't drink out of your cup, Lexi.
02:16:45.140
You guys act like you've never, like, kissed anybody.
02:16:57.020
Can we see what other population has mouth herpes?
02:17:08.540
I'm, maybe it's fucking rude for me to point it out, but me personally, I wouldn't share
02:17:21.220
And then I sucked cock right before I came here.
02:17:29.960
I'm, these are, 19-year-old girls are sharing a vape with a-
02:17:34.340
Well, my answer to that question is no, it doesn't bother me because I'm pretty sure
02:17:46.700
No, I mean, she told us before this started, like, I knew, but I, like, that's kind of,
02:17:51.220
first of all, that's kind of discriminatory to be like-
02:17:56.420
You, you're a sex worker, you can't hit my vape, like, and also, she brushes her teeth.
02:18:03.300
Yeah, to be like, you're a sex worker, so you can't hit my vape?
02:18:15.640
I mean, it's just a preference, like, you wouldn't do it, but, like, it's like, it's not that deep.
02:18:19.820
Yeah, I don't know, I trust her, especially after she's talking about dental dance,
02:18:36.440
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02:18:58.700
No, I thought you were gonna do a collab with her.
02:19:05.020
I'm just saying, you gotta be a little more protective with your vape.
02:19:16.040
I don't, you know, I've never met anyone else in real life that's used a dental dam.
02:19:21.980
You also have a cough, so you don't know if you're getting sick.
02:19:29.820
But she's having the cough drop, so you could be getting a cold from using that.
02:19:48.120
No, and I also told her, she said, can I hit your vape?
02:20:09.980
Yeah, I'd say that after, if you're dating somebody and you see it going somewhere, then
02:20:15.840
Oh, and I was asking, should women be transparent about body count?
02:20:18.800
Again, if you're dating a woman and you see it going somewhere, yeah, I don't see a problem
02:20:24.620
So, like, do you think it'd be wrong for a guy to ask a girl first date, like, what's
02:20:31.220
It might be a little bit out of the, or, like, it's not usually the normal thing.
02:20:41.420
You know, like, if a guy does that, I'll be like-
02:20:50.280
And so just one thing, like, when it comes to me not wanting to get married, is it something
02:20:54.340
that the woman should ask if it's something that's important to her or that I should willingly
02:20:59.480
Yeah, I mean, I think it just naturally comes up in a relationship.
02:21:04.320
But is the burden on me to disclose or is it on her for her to ask?
02:21:07.900
Um, I think in general, well, I mean, it depends the type of, I think in general, women, especially
02:21:16.700
if you say that you're more traditional in some aspects, like, and want a woman that's
02:21:20.400
not sleeping around and stuff, like, I'd say that the average woman does want to date for
02:21:26.560
So I would say that, um, it is something that you should disclose as it is somewhat out
02:21:34.540
Um, I'd say most people kind of expect that, you know, like, that the person that they're
02:21:43.440
And if you're somebody that's not into that, then yeah, you should disclose.
02:21:49.740
Um, I think I agree with her and I think that even if you sound crazy, you could be on a
02:21:56.400
I think you both should be totally transparent, say exactly what you want, say exactly what
02:22:02.280
If they have a question, they want to know your body count, you tell them, I feel like
02:22:05.740
if you're looking for something serious, you just be totally open and honest from the
02:22:10.040
And if they're scared away, then they're not the right person.
02:22:19.740
So, should we just get into, I mean, it came up, I guess we could get into body count.
02:22:25.860
So, yeah, I guess, uh, well, first off, do you think men who care about body count, do
02:22:43.560
Like if a man cares about, like, let's say he wouldn't date a girl because of her body
02:22:53.600
Because if a man is a virgin and he wants to be with a girl who's a virgin, that makes
02:23:02.300
I think if he wants a virgin, you can want what you want, but let's say he's going on a date
02:23:08.580
with a girl and he likes everything about her and then finds out that her body count
02:23:19.960
The main thing that I don't like in this situation is hypocrisy, you know?
02:23:24.280
So if that guy's a virgin and he wants a virgin, fine by me.
02:23:28.560
But if this man has a 50 body count and he calls women who have a body count of five a
02:23:35.920
Well, what if he doesn't do that, but he does have a body count of 50, but he wants a woman
02:23:39.880
with either a low body count, so like say less than five, or a virgin?
02:23:50.120
I mean, you can want whatever you want in the end, but if he's-
02:24:03.460
He's not insulting them, but he's like, I would not want to date a woman with a body
02:24:08.180
count of more than 10, but his body count's 50.
02:24:18.960
I think it's preference comes down to preference.
02:24:26.500
But so do you object to men caring about body count?
02:24:32.480
I mean, like, yeah, if they care, then they're not for me.
02:24:43.420
It's just a preference, but it's a little bit hypocritical.
02:24:47.420
Do you think it's lame to care about body count?
02:24:53.160
If they did care about body count, you wouldn't date them.
02:24:56.980
I mean, it would depend on, like, how they act about it.
02:25:01.420
I think everyone should care about body count, whether they're male or female.
02:25:28.840
By the way, before you get up, before you get up, hang tight.
02:25:33.120
Oh, can you just hang tight for, like, three minutes?
02:25:51.560
I say a lot on this app right now, and I say a lot in general on all my social media platforms,
02:25:57.560
but this is a question that I will not be answering today.
02:26:14.940
You're going to have to check out the previous episodes.
02:26:19.980
And the other ones, and maybe you'll find out the answer.
02:26:55.260
Can I have a mod look at, are you just, are you going to make me have my mods?
02:27:22.480
And you have to say it while this music is playing.
02:27:29.680
So, I was walking into the gas station just to, like, buy a regular Red Bull, you know?
02:27:37.520
And as I was going in there, just dressed in, like, a Lululemon outfit, this guy, the cash
02:27:44.360
register guy, was like, I was like, how's your day going?
02:27:47.940
I get to see hot women like you walk in here all the time, and I get to look at their toes.
02:27:55.560
He didn't know I was doing OnlyFans or anything of that sort, and there we go.
02:28:00.940
I think all gas station men are kind of creepy.
02:28:25.240
Subscribe to my OnlyFans to find out my body count.
02:28:33.540
I'm trying to think what episodes you've been on.
02:28:39.920
I think if you just search on the whatever page for Lexi...
02:28:57.700
You can either DM it through Discord, and Nick will tell me.
02:29:01.820
Or if you're one of the mods, just DM it to me on Instagram.
02:29:26.480
If it doesn't matter, why didn't you want to...
02:29:29.720
I meant in the sense that I don't care, so why would you care?
02:29:34.240
And if my partner does care and wants to know, then I'll tell him if we're sexually
02:30:15.640
Multiply it by three, and that's the real number.
02:30:44.620
I feel like the women amount as a representative.
02:30:55.340
Wait, you didn't even go all the way around the table.
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Okay, Josie says that Lexi said probably over 1,000.
02:31:12.360
Multiply it by three, and that's the real number.
02:31:59.740
Why would I care about his random girl's body count?
02:32:17.980
So, I have had carnal knowledge with seven men and two women.
02:32:42.220
I had a phase, and I've learned that the number has not moved in a while.
02:32:51.600
I'll say that, because I have not enjoyed hookup culture.
02:33:03.200
After my response, I just wanted to say, I am reformed.
02:33:27.400
Can you tell us a little bit more about the gay conversion camp and what they do to you there?
02:33:33.140
Do they put posters on the wall of the opposite sex?
02:33:40.120
They teach you things so you know what you're really like.
02:34:07.900
You said your ex got with a prostitute when you were on a break, but still exclusive.
02:34:13.360
I didn't know until after the end of our relationship.
02:34:20.720
Would you have preferred if it was a guy prostitute?
02:34:22.620
I think either way, like, that is something I just wouldn't prefer in general when he did
02:34:35.200
Wait, I'm sorry, but any who read this real quick, because it has my name in it, so we
02:34:45.900
If you don't want us to read it now, I'm going to intentionally wait and allow Ava to continue
02:35:04.580
Yeah, I just, if he did that when we were on an exclusive break and then got back to
02:35:10.560
getting with me without telling me, I think no matter who it is, male or female, I think
02:35:16.180
that I wouldn't prefer it at all, and I think it's super messed up.
02:35:27.780
And hopefully you stop spazzing out, but, oh, wait.
02:35:44.580
Each of her customers would be better off buying a sex doll and calling it, like, I look
02:35:55.380
I'm John Galt at the Urban Landlord on YouTube.
02:35:59.360
Please strike Ava's ex-boyfriend's TTS from the record as I have evidence that a
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Vietnamese stockbroker snatched the crack pipe out of Ava's hand.
02:36:14.440
So the Ava's ex-boyfriend person was a troll who is mad at my being on this podcast because
02:36:37.140
But basically, I am in recovery from addiction.
02:36:44.120
And I don't know what this is, Vietnamese person, whatever, is somebody that I have been on
02:36:54.980
some live streams with, but he was just joking around with that part.
02:37:03.360
If you covered Lexi's face in flowers, she'd look like long legs.
02:37:13.000
You want to finish reading it before it disappears?
02:37:18.500
Go out on the street if you want to be a prostitute.
02:37:20.980
Rescind everything nice I said about Peyton with the new info.
02:37:26.740
And I can put both my long legs behind my head, so...
02:37:41.760
It's the two stifler buttons right next to each other.
02:38:04.300
Yo, Giovanni, are you doing any personal injury stuff?
02:38:32.560
So going back to Ava, you said it's dumb to sit around talking about which gender's fault
02:38:46.400
I'd say specifically, I was watching and you guys were talking about, you said, whose fault
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And I feel like it's just not productive to be like, whose fault is it?
02:38:59.960
And it would be more productive to be like, how can we, what is the solution to this?
02:39:12.160
Is it about when we're like assigning blame to genders?
02:39:16.120
Because so in your pre-show notes, you say this, you say, it's dumb to sit around talking
02:39:20.560
about which gender's fault certain modern dating issues are.
02:39:24.140
But then in further notes that you provide, you say, and it contradicts, it says, male
02:39:29.980
promiscuity drives female promiscuity because men are leaders and the enforcers.
02:39:35.680
Well, there's one, do you see how those two statements contradict a little bit?
02:40:08.860
Uh, I would say I said that because I was, I was listening and I heard that specific thing
02:40:13.080
of you talking about hookup culture and promiscuity and you already put that out there.
02:40:19.940
I'm going to, I mean, honestly, you're kind of right.
02:40:21.780
I mean, I do, I'm not going to defend myself super hard on that.
02:40:26.720
Um, I guess that was just line of thinking that I was going on is that like, since you said
02:40:31.760
that I'm like, I'll just disagree with what's already out there, but you're kind of right.
02:40:36.780
So then we can at least tackle that the actual statement though, that male promiscuity drives
02:40:46.200
So my position on this, and we've talked about it on the show, while there are hyper promiscuous
02:40:51.040
males out there and the whole panel, I'd like the whole panel to weigh in on this is that.
02:41:10.260
Wait, don't, don't throw the, don't throw the toilet paper.
02:41:15.140
You got a good throwing arm, but not the toilet paper.
02:41:44.540
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, don't, don't, don't, Nick's about to kill
02:42:59.160
Maybe if you like, you know, food on the balcony?
02:43:05.760
How many, how many feminist women does it take to get two birds out of the studio?
02:43:14.100
I'll grab it in my hands if you don't care if I go upstairs.
02:43:35.760
So why don't you guys, instead of totally failing to get the birds out, rejoin the panel
02:43:48.420
This is not an opportunity for you guys to go back there and interrupt the show.
02:43:55.320
Fern went to get some medication for the car and she'll be back.
02:44:00.500
Do you want to just be down there waiting for her?
02:44:43.660
There's a fucking dragonfly and then there's two birds.
02:44:48.860
I don't know why we shut that door, though, because the birds.
02:44:55.740
Terrible time to, oh, let me take a smoke break while the bird's trying to escape.
02:45:24.740
Can somebody jumpstart what the fuck we were talking about?
02:45:34.360
What's crazy is I kind of want to do the bear question after two, like, birds this big
02:45:41.820
came into the studio and how everybody, like, freaked out and shit about birds.
02:45:53.020
The dragonfly scared me because I was like, oh, my goodness.
02:46:10.780
So, we were talking about, oh, male promiscuity drives female promiscuity.
02:46:17.240
So, I think I was just kind of trying to make the point here that while some, there are
02:46:35.540
Did they get bird shit on the roof, on the ceiling?
02:46:40.280
Like, that black spot was definitely not there.
02:46:53.540
So, yeah, I'm pretty sure that there are more promiscuous.
02:47:02.820
There are more promiscuous women than there are promiscuous men.
02:47:11.860
So, when I'm talking about promiscuous, I'm not talking about, like, the desire or the
02:47:20.420
So, a man could desire, for example, to want to sleep with a new woman every single day
02:47:38.660
But he's not able to actually act on his desires.
02:47:43.880
I'm talking about the actual action of, like, regularly hooking up with people.
02:47:50.420
So, that's what I'm talking about when I'm saying promiscuity.
02:47:56.540
I mean, my claim has nothing to do with that as much as it is.
02:48:01.000
Just that I think that, you know, at a certain point in society, there was a norm that has
02:48:07.040
And I think that men are the leaders and enforcers.
02:48:12.920
Therefore, um, the, uh, therefore, I'd say that it's more in the men's control.
02:48:24.960
Go on YouTube and find hawk or owl sounds to blast to scare out birds.
02:48:30.380
It's what huge office buildings with large doors to the outside do every night.
02:48:36.960
Yeah, can you play, find an owl sound or something?
02:48:39.320
Are you saying, like, men were promiscuous first?
02:48:43.360
I'd say that, like, the culture just, like, shifted in men have historically been, had
02:48:52.560
more power in the culture and had the leading position in relationships.
02:48:57.180
So, well, I think that's kind of why the shift happened, but I also, I would also go back
02:49:03.780
to what I said of, I think it's kind of, like, an irrelevant conversation to have, um, and
02:49:10.440
that I am kind of a hypocrite and I'm not, like, super strong on this, on this stance.
02:49:21.820
So the claim here, male promiscuity drives female promiscuity.
02:49:25.280
Agree or disagree, are women the gatekeepers of sex?
02:49:34.820
Because, well, because I think it's a, it's a two-way thing, but that's not part of my,
02:49:41.660
But this, this ties into my argument of while there are promiscuous men and promiscuous
02:49:48.140
women, it's my belief that there are more promiscuous women who can act on their promiscuity
02:49:57.460
I mean, I just, like, just see, like, the, if we, I mean, I just, I don't know.
02:50:03.320
Like, I genuinely, I, I, I don't know how to answer that question.
02:50:06.700
I mean, you could make arguments for either way.
02:50:08.440
Okay, but so who's the gatekeeper, who's the gatekeeper of sex, men or women?
02:50:27.240
I'm willing to have my mind changed, I should say.
02:50:34.140
And so, you said, but you said male promiscuity drives female promiscuity, but if women are
02:50:43.340
the gatekeepers of sex, isn't the blame to be laid on women for their own promiscuity?
02:50:56.140
But it's not to, wait, oh my god, I feel like you're mind-fucking-me right now.
02:51:04.180
Aren't, aren't, aren't women to blame for their own promiscuity?
02:51:10.640
Yeah, I'm just gonna say, like, the greater cultural shift, I think, is, like, men, it,
02:51:20.640
okay, are women to blame for their own promiscuity?
02:51:23.980
I would say that a lot of times, like, the culture has shifted so that, like, women think
02:51:29.740
that if they have sex, it'll lead to somewhere that it's not going to lead if they put out
02:51:41.840
Honestly, I'm not gonna try and, I'm not gonna try and fight you on this, like, I'll concede
02:51:51.100
Sorry, guys, we have birds in the studio, so we're gonna see if the owl noise is...
02:52:06.980
I'll go grab it with my hands and put it outside.
02:52:12.300
That's fucking aboctious, and it's not doing anything.
02:52:17.620
Can I just go grab it with my hands and put it outside?
02:52:25.840
If it comes down here, you can get it, but I'm not gonna have you go there.
02:52:37.040
They sent some birds to fuck up the stream, bro.
02:52:42.580
Graffito, by the way, the owl sounds did not work whatsoever.
02:52:57.260
I was just saying, at that point, I don't feel super strongly about asking.
02:53:08.260
Okay, so, the original question was, she said, male promiscuity drives female promiscuity.
02:53:20.840
To that question, I don't really have an answer.
02:53:22.620
But from what you were saying earlier of who I think the gatekeeper of sex is, I would say women, because usually we're the ones that are kind of allowing it to happen or not.
02:53:36.700
Because most of the time, it's not a girl pressuring a guy into sex.
02:53:44.980
Well, and even removing pressuring into it, who's more likely to make the other person wait for sex, the man or the woman?
02:53:54.820
And back to what we were talking about a while ago about commitment and stuff, a lot of women will not have sex just to prevent being used for sex.
02:54:06.600
So, that's why women will prevent it, just to see a man's true intentions.
02:54:15.220
Yeah, I mean, ultimately, though, what I think you – because going back to the original claim, male promiscuity drives female promiscuity.
02:54:24.440
There's definitely promiscuous men out there, of course.
02:54:38.160
Do you think maybe you said that because, like, more of the very few men that can be a slut are more vocal about it because it's more socially acceptable, so you hear more about it versus, like, women being secretive and sneaky about being promiscuous?
02:54:54.560
Or maybe I'm just, like, totally talking about something else, but –
02:55:05.640
I would actually disagree with Brian on something in which I think it is – it's obviously easier for women to get sex if they want sex, but I think it is more socially acceptable for men to sleep with multiple women than for women to sleep with multiple men.
02:55:25.520
And I think that women kind of try to be like men.
02:55:43.760
I think this question in general is kind of, like, a bit irrelevant.
02:55:50.600
I think it's relevant in which we're talking about dating, and so women definitely are the gatekeepers of sex, but obviously men do initiate wanting to have sex more than women want to, generally speaking.
02:56:07.240
I don't think that men promiscuity has any effect on a woman's.
02:56:14.200
It had its tail on the light, and I saw it poop in the light.
02:57:01.060
That's the entire population of, like, people that aren't.
02:57:19.500
I thought everybody sent in this many, like, longer lists.
02:57:30.180
How many episodes have you seen that you came to that conclusion?
02:57:44.400
But I think generally when people are going on, like, big podcasts and stuff like that,
02:57:47.540
like, there's a lot of people that you would consider more, like, normal, low-key, like, not on social media and that are, like, trying to be YouTubers or OF models or whatever.
02:57:59.060
Like, there are definitely some normal people, but I would say that, like, the demographic is, like, not as represented as it would be in just a normal population.
02:58:09.440
What I disagree with that is I am just, like, a normal person.
02:58:13.340
Like, I may be a streamer, but I definitely am just a normal person.
02:58:17.300
I think that streamers are definitely, like, a more special out there type of person.
02:58:25.480
And why I disagree with you is because I think, like, I can see what you're saying, but I think there are streamers that are just trying to be real and be honest.
02:58:38.080
Like, I've said my real opinions on my stream or on here.
02:58:44.320
And I think that some people are just trying to be normal people whether or not they're on streams or not.
02:58:49.260
Yeah, I'd just say it's a very specific type of person.
02:58:51.820
I'm not saying that you're, like, abnormal, but it's a specific type of person that will put themselves out in the limelight like that.
02:59:00.380
And are you saying, like, kind of just represent?
02:59:01.820
And I'd say most people would not, like, all of my friends, when it was on the DMs, when he was, like, do you have any friends that want to go on this?
02:59:10.920
Like, I'm the only person out of my friends that, like, goes on YouTube and stuff.
02:59:15.840
And out of all of us, like, none of them, they were, like, absolutely not.
02:59:20.500
But so would you consider one of the people that you're talking about?
02:59:25.820
Like, you said there's certain types of people.
02:59:32.420
But I'm saying that's almost opposite of what you're saying about how it's not the real people.
02:59:39.200
Like, would you consider yourself a real person?
02:59:40.780
I would just say it isn't representative of, like, the average person.
02:59:44.120
But are you representative of the average person?
02:59:51.940
Being your own person is different from just being on a podcast but also being a real person.
02:59:56.500
If you get the general, if you were to do a poll of, like, everybody that came on this podcast and poll them on their opinions on whatever the main topics are and do a poll of that and what the general average would be.
03:00:08.340
Obviously, every single person is their own person.
03:00:10.540
But then if you were to do that versus take a poll of the general population of women, of people that may be not inclined to go on this podcast, it may be different is what I'm saying.
03:00:26.040
I feel like even when we do try to get average people and say, like, we pull them off the street or something, they still have, like, their views, obviously.
03:00:34.400
That kind of represent, like, the different extreme examples of whatever they want to share.
03:00:43.920
Even if they don't say it, they still have them.
03:00:46.580
And I wasn't trying to make you concede your argument.
03:00:50.640
I was just saying with your responses, it just seemed a little hypocritical to yourself being on the podcast if you consider yourself a real person that happens to be on a podcast.
03:01:05.040
Just of your argument that you typed into the podcast.
03:01:11.000
Because you were saying that the people that were on the podcast, you wouldn't consider them, like, real people that you would take a average person.
03:01:17.260
No, I'd say that it's not representative of the average person.
03:01:20.300
And you don't consider yourself just an average person?
03:01:22.340
Yeah, and I don't think that that has a negative or a positive connotation to it at all.
03:01:28.040
Well, we have some stats here, Nick, if you can pull up the stats.
03:01:31.800
We'll skip all the way to, okay, well, yeah, next.
03:01:52.300
So this, I think this is an interesting one because, okay, well, one of the criticisms we get is, you just, this is an OF advertising agency, blah, blah, blah.
03:02:04.560
And you just bring on a bunch of OF girls and sex workers.
03:02:16.900
I mean, that's higher than the average population.
03:02:18.980
If you were to pull, like, every woman in the United States, like, I'd say the average, like, there's, what, like, one to two percent is sex workers?
03:02:25.520
Sure, but this idea that, like, the, like, for example, we have one sex worker on the panel.
03:02:31.240
Last show, we had, what, nine girls, no sex workers.
03:02:35.520
The show before that, I'm trying to, I think no OnlyFans girl, like, so maybe we'll, like, if you average it out, I think this accounts for, like, if you look at it, if we have a panel of nine women on the show, one of them is a sex worker if you average it out across all our shows.
03:02:53.820
So, yeah, I mean, I'm, that's, my only claim is that it's not representative of the average population, and I think that that's conveyed there, and I think that it's.
03:03:04.900
Wait, but hold on, if, if eight out of the nine panelists are not sex workers.
03:03:09.300
You just showed the statistic that said it's 20% of your podcast guests, just because you have three anecdotes recently.
03:03:17.160
Okay, so if one or two of the panelists on a 10-member panel are sex workers.
03:03:25.800
That's not representative of the average population.
03:03:28.080
So, what do you have to say about the other eight women who are on the panel who are not sex workers?
03:03:33.600
If I could put in my other point, which was the point that I was making a little bit ago, is that people that are content creators and people, because a lot of people on here, they come on here, entrepreneurs, content creators and stuff, and that's a specific personality type.
03:03:58.200
I'm just saying that there's a higher percentage that come on here versus...
03:04:03.120
So, if 80% of the people are representative, is the podcast in general representative?
03:04:15.620
You're saying that just 20% aren't sex workers, but it's also like a specific type of person.
03:04:20.860
For like the kind of goofballs who aren't sex workers, but they're weirdos, let's just say it's 70%.
03:04:27.800
I'd say that it's not as representative as like data-pulling population, just the average population.
03:04:40.900
That's just the point that I sent to you on the questionnaire.
03:04:51.680
So, one of the big things that comes up on the show comes to promiscuity.
03:04:57.220
But even you seem to admit that hookup culture is the reality, right?
03:05:08.660
Like, if we have women who come on the show and they're like, here's how promiscuous I am,
03:05:14.640
I don't think that that's painting a picture of society that is mischaracterized.
03:05:20.300
Whether they come on the show or not, you got a bunch of people out there, mostly women, who are hyper-promiscuous.
03:05:34.980
So, how is that not representative of what's actually going on in society?
03:05:39.120
If I have a girl who comes on and she's promiscuous, how is it like not representative of what's going on outside in the real world?
03:05:47.860
All that I'm saying is just that you're more likely to have that on here.
03:05:51.320
And it may be only by a marginal amount, I'll concede that, but it still is more likely.
03:05:59.400
Then we'll have, like, devout Christian virgin women on the show.
03:06:02.520
And I'd say most people are more in the middle.
03:06:06.660
It's perhaps the case, but I would say most people are leaning more towards promiscuity and degeneracy than the reverse.
03:06:12.500
Yeah, I would just, I would disagree with that.
03:06:16.580
I'd say that it's, most people are in a gray area.
03:06:24.720
But you said most people are still pretty normal and reasonable.
03:06:29.160
Like, I guess you just, you have some more of the, like, extremes on here is what I've noticed.
03:06:38.320
We've definitely had some pretty wild people on there.
03:06:40.240
So, going back, since the birds came in, I said I was going to ask this.
03:06:45.320
Would you rather be in the forest and come across, and cross paths with a random man or a random bear?
03:07:21.780
I honestly feel unsafe walking down, walking from my car to my apartment.
03:07:26.860
And if I see a random guy, I get even more scared.
03:07:35.820
I would rather just see a bear in the middle of the woods than a man, which is, that seems a little bit of normal.
03:07:42.520
So, you're not really thinking about the motivations as to why the man's there.
03:07:48.320
So, you're randomly spawned in the forest, and either a random man out of the entire U.S. population is also randomly spawned with you, or a random bear.
03:08:09.280
I would pick the bear because a bear is in the forest, because that's where the bear lives, and it's just chilling at its home.
03:08:22.340
Unless he has a cabin out there, if he lives out there.
03:08:23.840
So, I mean, I just laid out the scenario here for your friend, though.
03:08:29.940
And it's either the man is randomly spawned, or the woman is randomly spawned.
03:08:39.840
But I said you can't really think about the motivations as to why they're in the forest.
03:08:46.340
Okay, well, I asked if they were to be spawned with me.
03:08:50.480
Yes, you're both being spawned, but, like, maybe not right next to each other, but you will cross paths.
03:08:57.240
Like, at the same time, but at different paths.
03:08:58.500
You spawned in at different times, and then five minutes later, you're going to cross paths.
03:09:02.400
Then I would rather see the man if he just spawned there.
03:09:09.440
I don't know the exact statistics, but I work with many men that like to hike.
03:09:20.920
And it's way more likely that a man would be in the woods for their own enjoyment doing something than trying to hunt down a woman.
03:09:35.840
Yes, there's very, very rare cases that a man is there, you know, to try and essay or murder somebody.
03:09:43.160
But, realistically, men are out there to try and enjoy the wilderness.
03:09:48.620
It's crazy that so many women think that a man would be there to try and harm them rather than just enjoying the wilderness.
03:09:57.180
Nobody is saying that men can't enjoy their time in the woods, and no one's saying that any time a man is in the woods, he has bad intentions.
03:10:06.180
But in a world where I'm in the woods and I'm alone, if I see a man, no camping gear, no nothing, I'm going to question why he's in the woods alone.
03:10:17.180
But you would be more afraid to see a man than a bear in the woods?
03:10:29.860
Just because it's like, I wouldn't be scared to see a bear where it lives.
03:10:44.200
So, I guess, going into the next component of this question.
03:10:53.060
So, what you guys are doing, I imagine, is you're doing a risk assessment.
03:10:57.760
You're saying, well, the bear could be dangerous, but so could the man.
03:11:04.220
And comparatively speaking, I view human men as more dangerous than bears, essentially.
03:11:12.420
So, I guess it beckons the question, then, what percentage of men do you think would, of the random U.S. population of men, would choose to victimize you in this scenario, starting with you?
03:11:33.160
I don't think majority of men are going to use that to their advantage.
03:11:40.920
So, I don't know what exact percentage I want to say for that.
03:11:57.620
So, I would say 50% because either they could or they couldn't, right?
03:12:05.360
I mean, not exactly how percentages work, but...
03:12:11.500
Like, either they could or they couldn't, so...
03:12:15.020
So, somebody could or they could not, but that doesn't mean that there's a 50% chance that it will happen.
03:12:22.780
If I could or could not win the lottery, it doesn't mean that my chance is 50% of winning the lottery.
03:12:37.080
Like, what percentage of the population of males?
03:12:43.420
By the way, your answer could still be, I believe it is 50%.
03:12:47.560
But I just wanted to clear up that could or could not doesn't necessarily indicate 50%.
03:13:10.420
There's, like, a chance where it could happen or a chance...
03:13:15.860
There's a chance where it could and there's a chance where it couldn't.
03:13:22.680
I would agree with Riley around, like, 10%, maybe 15% at most.
03:13:28.620
Well, it's not the highest numbers that I've heard.
03:13:39.020
So, I suppose I give you, at least comparatively speaking, some credit for thinking the number's that low.
03:13:48.220
I do think it's still exceptionally high, though, that you think one out of 10 men would choose to victimize you in this situation.
03:14:33.560
When it's on the light, I could easily grab it.
03:14:42.240
I'm saying when it's on the light up the stairs, I could grab it.
03:15:02.540
No, it keeps trying the windows, and it just doesn't know.
03:15:07.220
And you guys are refusing to allow me to, and that's really upsetting to me.
03:15:20.720
What percentage can focus on the podcast without getting distracted by the birds?
03:15:54.080
Let's all go around the table and rate ourselves.
03:15:55.640
For people who said bear, would you rather be in the ocean and...
03:16:20.480
Yeah, but after swimming for a while, your body gives out.
03:16:25.860
But in the forest, I could survive for a pretty long time.
03:16:34.980
I'm so nervous because you're coming over here.
03:16:37.960
Brian, I cannot carry the conversation if this bird is flying around me.
03:16:56.620
You can define it in your own way if you want to.
03:16:58.320
I mean, I'd say if I believe that men and women should have equal opportunity,
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there shouldn't be any legal barriers to whatever they want to pursue.
03:17:12.360
I think that they should be equal in the law is a better way to put it.
03:17:22.780
I'm not super familiar with the law, legal, or stuff.
03:17:32.140
Like, I think that we are pretty much equal right now.
03:17:37.340
I mean, are you going to go towards the argument of, like, men have legal disadvantages or something?
03:17:47.020
So I'm like, I don't know what the purpose of it is past that.
03:18:16.700
Because I would have to sit here and remember everything.
03:18:39.620
But then I have to, like, really dig deep and, like, think about everything.
03:18:44.420
You've come onto a show to, like, talk about this sort of stuff.
03:18:51.560
And then you can come back to me if you ask everyone.
03:19:15.320
Because there are some people that claim to be feminists that are, like, out.
03:19:24.820
But I just feel like we need to, like, come back down to where feminism really was.
03:19:33.820
Do you think that when it comes to rights or any laws, are there any laws that exist that
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are unequal or any rights that men have that women don't?
03:19:50.520
And then, more broadly speaking, when it comes to, I think you said societally, or...?
03:20:11.080
Just the general treatment of women and men is different.
03:20:15.300
The way that somebody, the way that a man will talk to me versus a way a man will talk to,
03:20:25.460
for example, at my job, the way I'll get talked to versus a busser who is a male will
03:20:32.540
be different, and it won't be for any reason other than because it's a woman and a man.
03:20:37.220
Wouldn't you say that's because men and women are different?
03:20:53.480
Depends on what the thought process is of the person who's saying...
03:21:02.440
Isn't it the case that women tend to make more tips than men?
03:21:08.860
No, I remember I used to be a server, and I looked at statistics.
03:21:14.160
If it's at, like, Hooters or something, obviously women are going to make more tips than women.
03:21:16.880
But at our restaurant, like, we all get paid the same tips.
03:21:24.680
I mean, yeah, there's pooling at some restaurants, but other places, it's going to be, like, whatever your tips are are your tips.
03:21:31.920
Even if it is pooling, it's, like, who's bringing in more?
03:21:36.040
Generally, when it comes to tips, I think they make about the same.
03:21:39.740
Because I remember I was, like, looking at, like, stats on this on how, like, things people can do to get higher tips.
03:21:45.860
Um, and it was showing, like, differences and, like, appearance and different demographics.
03:21:51.760
There have been pretty comprehensive studies on this.
03:22:04.860
But, so, I mean, so are you talking about the preferential sexist treatment that you receive?
03:22:11.880
I'm just talking about, like, general treatment.
03:22:14.440
Just generally, the way you'd get treated, whether it's better or worse, you'll get treated differently for your gender.
03:22:25.980
If you go to a gas station, maybe the guy will give you something for free because he thinks you're hot.
03:22:34.540
I'm just saying either way, it could be better or worse.
03:22:41.420
And then, if anything, what if the gas station worker is sexist and he hates women, so he overcharges you because he thinks you're dressed like a slut or something?
03:22:51.740
Or what about, like, the whole, you know, educational system, which is predominated by women, especially for young childhood education.
03:23:00.160
And these women tend to have a bias against men, and so they tend to, when it comes to assessments for students, they will more favorably, they will give more favorable grades to women on the pure basis of them being women.
03:23:20.420
I'm just saying I've never heard that in my 19 years of life.
03:23:23.460
Are elementary school teachers more likely to be men or women?
03:23:40.520
Okay, well, perhaps yours was an outlier, but if I were to present statistics to you that showed that there were more in the kindergarten through sixth grade, there's more female teachers than male teachers.
03:23:57.920
Well, one, the men don't have any sort of male role models in the school environment, but then secondly, there is preferential.
03:24:05.940
You're saying that in society, men will perhaps have, treat people differently, right?
03:24:13.240
Or are women perfect angels that have no biases, have no, don't do any sort of preferential treatment?
03:24:23.520
So then you would agree, then, if you're saying that women do have biases, that if there was a disproportionate amount of women in elementary school education, that they would have a tendency to be biased towards the women, or excuse me, the girls.
03:24:38.100
I'm confused why you're bringing up teachers, because in the end, I don't think, are you trying to say that administrations won't hire a teacher because he's a man?
03:24:49.360
Probably, that's not what I'm arguing, but yes, there's probably.
03:24:53.520
If there's a majority of women that are studying to be a teacher, then that's just, that's just what happens, but I don't think that there's going to be a man out there who studies to be a teacher, goes through college, applies, and then they look at his credentials, and they say, you've done all the same stuff as all these women that are teachers, but we're not going to hire you because you're a man.
03:25:11.700
But would you make a similar argument about hiring practices when it comes to women?
03:25:18.660
Well, this is, I'm not really the one here who needs to make the argument, because this is a feminist position, that there's discrimination when it comes to job hiring practices towards women.
03:25:31.800
Yeah, but you brought up the teacher thing, so that's what I'm talking about.
03:25:34.720
But you're saying that can't, you're saying, you're saying it can't possibly exist that there's any bias against men in job hiring.
03:25:47.260
Because you're like, well, I don't think if they went to the college and they did this, that there would exist any biases that would make it harder for them to get a job when it came to dealing with children.
03:25:58.880
For example, I would argue that there's a very strong bias against, hmm, male babysitters or having a male working in a child daycare.
03:26:08.840
I would argue most people, there's a bias that will exist in both men and women, would they have a preference for a female or a male to handle the child care?
03:26:24.120
And so there's a similar, and so for elementary school, right, it's dealing with young children.
03:26:32.860
I don't think it's justified, but there is an anti-male bias when it comes to elementary school teachers.
03:26:39.220
And a lot of men who would love to be elementary school teachers have been pushed out of that career because of this bias that exists towards men when it comes to dealing with young children.
03:26:50.840
And so the reason that that bias exists is because statistically, not that we're supposed to bring this up, but statistically.
03:27:03.200
I'm going to, because you said I can't say this word, but statistically, the majority of people who are attracted to children are men.
03:27:19.620
So first off, you hear week after week, day after day stories of female teachers having, well, graping their students.
03:27:34.560
To be honest, me personally, I don't hear that often.
03:27:37.300
It's more common than the male professor, or not the male, the male teacher than with the female student.
03:27:45.940
There's a couple stories recently in my specific area in Massachusetts.
03:27:49.520
There was a female teacher recently that actually SA'd a male student in middle school, had his baby, lied to his parents about it, and then he found out years later when she was in jail that it was his biological son.
03:28:06.660
And to that, I would say, sad story, obviously terrible, but I said statistically, majority men.
03:28:19.320
But statistically, especially in recent years, there's been, I could look it up if I had my phone, but there has been statistically many more female teachers that have SA'd male students.
03:28:37.180
If I could interject, and I don't know who's correct here, but it could be.
03:28:47.620
But I'm thinking maybe it could be in the news more often, those situations, because it's so crazy to think of.
03:28:57.280
Because it throws off our expectations to think that a woman would do that.
03:29:02.040
So maybe that's why it's in the news, because it's just the most outlandish, not outlandish, but extreme headline.
03:29:13.220
It would be more newsworthy for them to send that message.
03:29:19.380
But I think any teacher that essays a student is going to be on the news.
03:29:23.320
I mean, possibly, but I do think that a woman would be so far.
03:29:29.940
But if anything, you could just look up this statistic so we know for sure.
03:29:34.320
Because I don't know any exact numbers, but from life that I've experienced, it's been majority men that I've seen.
03:29:42.820
And that's why that bias exists, which I'm not saying that's right, because there's great teachers that are male that want to be teachers.
03:29:50.360
And I don't think it's fair for them to be rejected from teaching if that's their passion.
03:29:55.440
But I'm saying that there is a bias and there's a reason for that.
03:29:59.960
Would you be more likely to leave if you want kids one day?
03:30:06.000
You're more likely to leave them with a female babysitter or male babysitter?
03:30:17.040
Because if it's a female and she seems like a freak, then I'm not going to leave my kids with her.
03:30:34.520
I would lean towards the same gender of whatever gender my kid is.
03:30:39.820
So if I have a male kid, then I would probably lean towards having a male babysitter.
03:30:45.380
And then if I have a female kid, I'd lean towards a female babysitter.
03:30:56.940
Okay, well, the older woman can teach the young girl stuff.
03:31:02.720
And then if I have a boy, then there's an older role model for him.
03:31:09.000
I actually do think that's a pretty fair argument.
03:31:12.660
But so are there any other examples of, I guess, the inequality that exists between men and women?
03:31:21.800
Not that I can think of at the top of my head right now.
03:31:37.240
So do you think women should be subject to forced military conscription?
03:31:45.140
I don't think women exactly should be, but statistically and physically, men are stronger.
03:31:53.720
So if it's a woman that's the same strength as a man, because I think that the reason that men are being drafted is just because they're physically stronger and it's war.
03:32:05.760
So that's the reason I'm assuming that they're choosing men to be drafted and not women.
03:32:10.420
Well, then, should women be barred from volunteering from the military?
03:32:20.980
And when women do join the military, they get paid the exact same amount because it's government mandated.
03:32:26.880
So if you're X rank in the military, whether you're a man or woman, you're going to get paid the exact same amount.
03:32:32.960
The men and women, I'm assuming, I've never been in the military, go through the same workouts and probably are similar in strength.
03:32:39.660
And a woman that's in the military is going to be strong.
03:32:48.100
So if you put a man and a woman through the same exact training, do you think they're going to come out the same equal strength?
03:32:56.600
No, because men develop muscle faster and they're just stronger.
03:33:02.180
So what do you think, in addition to that, also, the physical requirements to join are different?
03:33:14.200
Just looked up rates of convictions of teachers essuing students.
03:33:18.900
It's actually pretty similar numbers, although there are more female teachers, but the men had twice as long jail sentences.
03:33:33.200
Because you do say there are more female teachers.
03:33:36.080
Are you talking per capita or like this is accounting for per capita?
03:33:45.700
Yeah, I mean, it's not clear to me if the women who join the military are anywhere near as strong as their male counterparts in the military.
03:33:59.980
To her point that she said earlier, the people that are qualified, but I actually have known women that have left Russia because it's not if you qualify.
03:34:14.760
As soon as you turn 18, if there is a war, you're in the war.
03:34:22.820
If you're a male or female at 18 and there is a war, you are sent to war.
03:34:30.060
I don't know if he's specifically talking about the United States, but that's the specification for Russia that I've heard personally from women.
03:34:38.940
Wait, are you saying that like the women are as strong as the men that are in the military?
03:34:49.720
Saying that generally is kind of impossible, but there might be women that are stronger than some of the men there.
03:34:55.320
Because what if there's a guy that just got, he's fresh out of high school.
03:34:59.440
He's never worked out a day in his life and he went to the military because he doesn't want to go to school.
03:35:03.320
And there's a woman that's been working out her whole life and she's super buff.
03:35:08.480
She's probably stronger than him, but that's just, it's specifics.
03:35:12.500
I mean, honestly, I would say the average male, average male who joins the military is going to be stronger than 99% of all the women in the military.
03:35:25.800
There might be like that 1% who, yeah, they work out a lot, but there's major just natural strength differentials between men and women.
03:35:40.760
But so you do think it would, the equal thing would be to start drafting women.
03:35:47.520
I don't think that anybody should be forced to be in the military, men or women.
03:35:53.300
We can say that while war is bad, there shouldn't be war.
03:35:56.080
But given that there is war and given that that's not something we can really get rid of, or even if the state or country, they're involved in a defensive war.
03:36:14.020
Knowing that war really can't be avoided, knowing that governments and nations will never relinquish their right to force its citizenry into a military conflict, and given the reality that men do have to register for selective service, should women equally have to register too?
03:36:32.620
I don't think that, honestly, yeah, in a world, I don't think that it would be smart, just because physically there is a big difference between men and women.
03:36:47.100
But in the world of equality, and that should men be getting drafted and women shouldn't, no, I don't think that's right.
03:36:55.940
So I don't think it's a smart idea, because physically there is a big difference between men and women.
03:37:11.140
Not every soldier is going to be on the front line.
03:37:16.880
If it's a smart idea, we're talking about war here.
03:37:19.860
I'm not talking about, I just want everything to be equal.
03:37:23.260
So if it's the smartest idea to have men and women being drafted, then yeah.
03:37:28.000
Yeah, but we don't really, like, factor in, like, when it comes to initiatives in other industries or sectors, we don't really ever have this conversation of, well, men are better, which is kind of what you're arguing.
03:37:45.780
Men are better at this job than women due to physical strength.
03:37:48.800
But, I mean, that's never accounted for when we're talking about initiatives to get women overrepresented in other sectors.
03:38:01.640
Do you think, let's bring it to sports, do you think that men and women should be paid equally, for example, like professional basketball players, do you think they should be paid equally?
03:38:13.180
Well, aren't they paid based off of how much viewers they get and how much people are going in to watch the games?
03:38:22.380
But the male basketball players make quite a lot of money, especially the stars, and female basketball players tend to make very little.
03:38:36.080
If more people are coming into their game, then they're going to make more money.
03:38:42.940
If more people are coming into the male game, then obviously they're going to make more money.
03:38:47.820
So you don't think, but you don't think it's unfair that male basketball players make more than female basketball players?
03:38:57.280
So from what I'm assuming, you get paid based off of how many viewers and how many people are buying tickets to your games.
03:39:04.760
So it's not, it would be crazy to say it's unfair that less people are going to my game, you know?
03:39:11.320
If they want to go to that game instead of that game, they can do that.
03:39:18.460
If they're getting paid differently, like, I don't know how basketball players get paid.
03:39:25.460
They're getting paid based off of views and tickets to their games.
03:39:28.560
So it's not unfair that more people want to go to that game.
03:39:44.480
But like Riley said, if it's a smart decision to bring women in, then, yeah, it's what's needed.
03:39:53.480
But again, given the reality that men do have to register, do you think women should have to register too?
03:40:04.760
I just think that more men are in the military because of just, like, biology.
03:40:30.140
So how do you reconcile this very unequal position?
03:40:35.580
I just, like, I mean, like I said, if women need to get drafted, yes.
03:40:40.900
But if we're just talking one day, they're, like, women have to be drafted, women are going to get drafted, or, like, they have to be.
03:40:48.260
And I'll be, like, damn, I, like, I don't know.
03:41:00.820
But who built that system, like, that system, you know?
03:41:05.820
Well, I don't know if that's a – well, okay, so if Kamala Harris becomes president, well, she wouldn't have total – okay, this is not the – she would not be able to undo the selective service system.
03:41:26.560
So the argument I was about to make was not a strong one, but if it was women in positions of power, would it still not just be unequal?
03:41:40.280
If women made up, like, if women were the ones to be, like, men have to be drafted or for women to be drafted?
03:41:48.800
Like, so we're saying in a world it's, like, women saying that the men have to be drafted or the women?
03:42:03.080
Are you, like – we're talking hypothetical right now.
03:42:08.340
So let's say the government was majority women, Supreme Court –
03:42:15.280
The government was majority women, the Supreme Court majority women, president and a woman.
03:42:20.580
But these women are conservative women, mind you.
03:42:24.960
If this government, a majority of women, passed legislation fully outlawing abortion for the entire United States, and if you complained about it and I turned to you and said, but who's passing those laws?
03:42:46.500
I mean, like, it is women who are doing it, so it can't be, like, it's men doing it.
03:42:53.480
So, okay, it's women, so your issue doesn't matter?
03:43:02.280
But so, yeah, but you – so we've got to stick to the argument.
03:43:04.600
And it's also abortion is kind of like a – I feel like it's a very different thing.
03:43:14.420
Yeah, we're talking about war, not somebody having a baby.
03:43:17.160
So a government forcing you, like, they can move where you live, they can force you to perform exercises and train, they can force you to – into a geography or a combat zone where you could die, where you could get a bullet in your stomach or your head or your heart.
03:43:37.280
That has absolutely everything to do with bodily autonomy.
03:43:44.740
And to your argument, you were saying if it would be different if it was a woman in charge or not.
03:43:49.360
I think that the problem, whether it's the men in charge or not – because women can be sexist, too.
03:43:56.420
If – it would still be a problem of sexism if that was a problem.
03:43:59.940
If it was all women, I would say those are sexist women.
03:44:03.140
It's not that all men are sexist and that all women are not.
03:44:06.420
There can 100% be feminist men and sexist women.
03:44:10.060
So it's not a difference of a man in office or a woman in office.
03:44:13.760
It's a difference in their morals as a human being.
03:44:18.040
Wait, so you think women that are pro-lifers are sexist towards women?
03:44:29.720
So should women be drafted, be subject to the draft?
03:44:34.100
Do – I just have one question before I answer that.
03:44:49.620
So there are some things that can exempt you from military service.
03:44:52.880
Although in the case of a draft, like, for example, if you have certain medical conditions, it could exempt you from service, right?
03:45:03.100
But, I mean, if you're talking about the average woman, I don't think that there's anything when it comes to the average woman that exempts them from service.
03:45:10.820
Because average women can volunteer for the volunteer military.
03:45:19.500
If that same woman could volunteer and join the military, she should also be subject to forced military conscription.
03:45:29.320
If the man qualifies, everyone should, if they qualify.
03:45:41.520
Hey, if that's a smart decision, as you already said, there's more things to do in the war than fight.
03:45:47.720
There's plenty of other positions that need work.
03:45:50.700
So, if that's a smart decision to have women and men, then leave it up to the government and they'll make that decision.
03:46:03.480
Fern, you said hot take, body count, doesn't matter.
03:46:08.960
Because I said that in my notes that I said that.
03:46:15.040
Because it only matters to the person who I'm having a relation with.
03:46:19.020
So, like, why do you care if I'm saying I don't care?
03:46:23.080
I think he's just saying he thought that you're, what you said meant it doesn't matter in general.
03:46:29.660
But I think that it's something private to somebody.
03:46:32.240
So, I think it should be kept private unless you're having relations with someone, obviously.
03:46:40.140
But then it does kind of sound like it might matter.
03:46:45.360
And if she doesn't want to air it out on the internet.
03:46:52.340
No, I'm saying it does matter if you're having relations with somebody.
03:46:55.220
But if it's a random man asking me, I'm not having any relations with him.
03:47:02.060
Was there a TTS that came in that asked a question that we did not, like, I said I would get to it.
03:47:18.360
My guess is pro-choice, pro-choice, pro-choice, pro-life.
03:47:23.800
If they draw a line in fetal development, make them defend why they draw it there.
03:47:35.420
I mean, just curious, since he sent in the chat, just a show of hands, who's pro-choice?
03:47:54.640
Yeah, how did this go from dating to political?
03:48:04.120
Can I ask you a question, and I don't mean this offensively?
03:48:09.000
Is it because your eyelashes are so big, or because you're stoned, that your eyes are
03:48:17.640
And also, I'm getting sleepy, and the topic is getting a little boring, and I have ADHD.
03:48:24.340
I'm going to go with the flow type of girl, but the whole war thing, Kamiakar, because I
03:48:33.680
We just want to know what you would like to talk about.
03:48:35.180
Well, the war discussion, like, can we, like...
03:48:37.300
You got to love these people where it's like, God, this is so boring, and you're like, okay,
03:49:00.360
Pay, you were on a first date, and the guy got arrested on the way to the restaurant.
03:49:05.180
So, it was, I think, the second date, not the very first date.
03:49:12.800
We had hung out in a park, just walked around, talked a little bit.
03:49:15.940
He seemed totally normal, and everything was totally fine.
03:49:18.960
And then, he said he wanted to take me out to dinner.
03:49:26.920
And so, my mom, honestly, dropped me off at his house.
03:49:30.940
And we got in his car, and we were driving to the restaurant.
03:49:34.920
And on the way there, we happened to get pulled over.
03:49:37.640
And you would think that getting pulled over wouldn't be a big deal.
03:49:41.680
If you're driving a car, you would have all your stuff together.
03:49:46.520
Well, come to find out, his license was suspended, and he also had a warrant out for his arrest.
03:49:51.740
So, the cop said, oh, are you able to drive his car back to wherever you guys came from?
03:50:04.520
And I said, well, what is he getting arrested for?
03:50:07.200
Oh, it's against our policy to say, if you're not family, what he's getting arrested for.
03:50:12.880
And so, I had to call my mom to come pick me up.
03:50:42.940
After they put him in the back of the car, I asked the police officer, I said, why is he being arrested?
03:50:48.040
They said, if you're not blood or family, we can't legally tell you.
03:51:02.000
The first date, we walked through a park together.
03:51:11.100
Did he reach out to you at first or you reached out to him?
03:51:16.260
I met a guy once and he still calls me from prison.
03:51:38.940
Some, I, something's like, it's like, he's in there for, like, nine months.
03:51:44.500
And I just, and I remember one day I got the phone call.
03:51:47.180
And it's, and I thought it was, like, a scam at first.
03:51:49.380
And I'm like, I have no idea who this person is.
03:51:52.680
He was trying to hook me up with one of his prison homies.
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The unfortunate thing for me is I didn't know his entire name.
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How are you going on dates with people you don't even know their full name?
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You know, you, every dude you ever have hung out with.
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The fact that you didn't do your screening was crazy.
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Imagine how even the conservative woman of the panel still suck at picking men.
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No, but the fact that you didn't know his name, that's like literally rule number one for all.
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Does everyone put their entire name on Instagram?
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Because I want to know who I'm hanging out with.
03:52:54.140
I didn't expect to know his whole life story and everything.
03:53:05.160
Like, you're going to go on a date with this guy.
03:53:06.420
You got into his car and you just know his first name.
03:53:11.580
What are the odds that they're like Jeffrey Dahmer though?
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Just because you're not a hoe doesn't mean you don't need to be safe.
03:53:26.120
I was trying to get to know someone when I was young.
03:53:29.580
I didn't know their first, middle, and last name to look up their records after they happened
03:54:08.340
Guys, we're doing exposure therapy for Madison.
03:54:14.060
Well, actually, it happened on the whatever podcast.
03:54:16.500
Like, she was out there on the street and a bird shat on her.
03:54:21.540
Wait, and that's why you're afraid of birds pooping on me.
03:54:32.600
My grandparents had like a chicken coop and I would always have to go with them.
03:54:36.060
And then they would make me hold birds and I was really scared of them.
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But then like you see the body and I'm like, oh, you're just another bug.
03:54:55.780
I've never seen that one episode of Spongebob where they like zoom into the butterfly.
03:55:03.320
I was like probably like seven years old when I saw it for the first time.
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It scarred me for life and I'm also horrified of birds.
03:55:08.600
Anything that flies really I can't do because I saw birds too and I had a really mean bird.
03:55:12.680
You've never seen a butterfly and thought it was beautiful?
03:55:15.340
Now I do because it reminds me of my grandma, but from far away.
03:55:36.360
Actually, I have two more questions related to the bear.
03:55:40.560
Why don't you pull up the bear video really quick?
03:55:54.300
See, this is like there's the string of cars and then there's a bear just kind of walking
03:56:04.320
If we replaced that bear with a man, would you be less likely or more likely to just – let's
03:56:21.920
Brian, ask any of these females if they're Kamala voters and instant ejection if affirmative.
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I don't want to look at another rotten animal ruining this country.
03:56:38.600
So I'll get back to the Kamala thing really quick.
03:56:41.200
So that video that we were looking at, if instead of that bear, it was a man, which scenario
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would you feel more like okay just like getting out of your car, assuming you're in that one
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Is the man crawling too or is he just walking around?
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Well, the bear's walking normally, so the man's just like walking normally.
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I would get out with the man because there's other people there.
03:57:13.280
Now, would you rather be in a room alone with a man or a bear?
03:57:33.020
To the woman between the dashing Austrian soldier and the sex doll, what platform do you stream
03:57:55.520
Mike Davis, I will get to your question in just a moment here.
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If I was in a room, small room, I would pick the man in hopes that nothing bad would happen
03:58:07.740
because if I was in the woods, I'd pick the bear because the bear obviously doesn't see
03:58:19.840
Okay, but the scenario is you're going to cross paths, which would indicate that you will both
03:58:27.460
Okay, well, in a small room, I would be afraid of a bear.
03:58:50.120
I guess also the question is, like, why on one hand do so many women pick the bear, but
03:58:56.260
these same women will, like, go have a one-night stand with a guy that they just met, like,
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I don't casually date like that, so I don't just casually have sex with men that I just
03:59:14.200
But you'll be in a room alone with the man who pays you for sexual...
03:59:26.020
That's something that she did not do with her date.
03:59:32.340
You still got to get to know them by knowing their first and last name.
03:59:37.940
That's, like, so scary that she would ever get into a car with somebody and not know their
03:59:43.560
If you're in a bathroom, would you rather a man or a bear wanders in?
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Would you rather a man or a bear wanders into the bathroom?
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When I use the public restrooms, I'll actually put my feet on the toilet and I'll squat.
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I'll, like, put my feet, my shoes on the toilet and then I'll just, like, squat.
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Wow, thank you for respecting our toilet, I guess.
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Well, I'm also wearing heels, so I wasn't just going to wear heels and hover over the toilet
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And all of these questions, I'm thinking of the space.
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If in a forest, a bear can go along its path, but in a room, there is no other thing to
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pay attention to other than the other living being, and it's a bear, because it's not going
04:01:17.700
Have you ever seen the videos of the bears getting stuck in a car, and they're trying
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to get out of the car, but they're ripping the car to shreds?
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That's what I'm picturing, of the bear being in a bathroom stall, and I'm picturing it just
04:01:30.460
trying to rip all the stall doors down, and I'd be kind of scared of getting hit with the
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I mean, not preferred to be walked in by anyone, but a man.
04:02:03.580
So, like, you guys have this fear of men, right?
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Putting a bunch of men's pennies inside her is fine, but she draws the line at touching
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a piece of metal that touched another woman's butt.
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Bricks and the reason certain types of women pick the bear is because they know from past
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experiences that they can drive a man to the point of insanity, and that would be risky.
04:02:57.380
Mike Davis, I'll get your thing about Kamala really quick in a bit, but what do you think
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about, because there's, like, a bias against men, you think you'll be victimized, whatever.
04:03:08.400
What do you think about women who don't want transgender women in the bathroom?
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Like, in the same way that when it comes to, like...
04:03:35.500
So, because it's kind of in the same way that, like, women are saying, I'd rather be in a
04:03:43.220
Like, what do you think about women who'd rather not have a transgender woman in the bathroom?
04:03:51.620
Um, I think that a lot of the time, some women will have trauma with men and some kind of
04:03:59.700
experience, and that's the reason that they're kind of cautious with it.
04:04:08.420
So, what if the transgender woman still has a penis?
04:04:13.140
That's valid if you are scared, and that's just the way it is, you know?
04:04:17.540
So, you're fine with, like, the whole bathroom thing, like, not wanting...
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I think it depends, like, where they are in the transition, obviously, because if it's,
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Ladies, you have to choose between two elevators.
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In one elevator, there's a six-foot-three, 250-pound man, and in the other elevator,
04:05:02.920
Can I say one thing about the bear and man argument?
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The whole reason that it's an argument, it's not a very valid one, I don't think,
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because a man and a bear are completely different.
04:05:22.480
The reason that women are choosing, and everyone's mad about it,
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the reason women are choosing the bear over the man is because humans...
04:05:35.300
If forced to choose, would you rather date a Trump supporter or MS-13 gang member?
04:05:46.780
We'll do this one, but first she has to finish her point.
04:05:51.860
You're saying the difference with the bear and the...
04:06:03.560
I just wanted to explain, like, there's just such a huge difference between a human being and a bear.
04:06:21.720
Bears don't kill stuff for fun, whereas there are human beings that are serial killers that kill people for fun
04:06:28.860
and are worded people for fun, because that's what they like to do.
04:06:37.200
But do you think that the percentage of serial killers...
04:06:52.680
Do you think that the percentage of bears that kill people for the reason you're saying,
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I'm trying to show how illogical it is choosing the bear with the percentage of bears that would be likely to kill somebody
04:07:17.700
if they saw them than the percentage of male serial killers that there would possibly be.
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So there's a 1% to 2% fatality rate for bear attacks per year.
04:07:32.160
Yeah, so my point is what I'm explaining is the difference that this argument is very not even valid
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because this is two completely different beings, and humans can be serial killers, are wordists,
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and everything under the sun, and the only reason that bears kill is for food.
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There's not an evil intention, but bears will kill for other reasons besides food.
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If their children, the bear cubs or whatever, are in the vicinity, they might attack you.
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I've never killed a woman for fun, but I might have needed to cover up a woman's mouth
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when a woman doesn't shut up during a one-night stand or during a podcast.
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If you go to any zoo in the world and there's a bear enclosure, why aren't the women just jumping into the enclosure to get away from these men who are also in the zoo?
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You're giving us different things because, see, in a zoo, you're surrounded by people.
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You know those zoos that you can drive through and you feed all the animals?
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Why are there no bears in any of those zoos that you can drive through that you can feed?
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They're not looking to just grab food by hand from humans.
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It's been viral on TikTok by someone else making it up.
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Usually there's a story about why they pick the bear.
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It is basically a way for women to essentially degrade men so that they can talk about their anecdotal bad experience with a men or multiple men.
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So, in this scenario, if I even grant to you that all these women have had bad experiences with men, I don't even doubt it.
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Does that give them justification and pretext to hold this bias against men in general?
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If we were to, for example, replace man with a racial group or...
04:10:54.240
If we were to place man with a racial group, would this...
04:10:59.080
And the person said, I would pick the bear over that racial group because I've had bad experiences with that racial group.
04:11:05.120
And now I hold a bias against that racial group because that racial group makes me feel uncomfortable.
04:11:22.400
Well, they are profiling a large group of people based on their race.
04:11:29.840
So, then is it sexist to say, to pick men over bear?
04:11:47.740
But what you just said was that that would be racist to compare it to a race.
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That is the exact same thing as comparing it to men.
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Like he just said, if it was a specific race, and yes, something did happen to them, but they were basing it against that race, that would be racist.
04:12:07.780
But that's the exact same thing as women having a bad experience with a man and basing that opinion off of all of men.
04:12:15.220
Yeah, and if there's a story behind it, and you have a fear of this group of people for a reason, then that's valid, and that's fine.
04:12:34.880
The one black guy in the room did say it was racist.
04:12:41.840
You did concede that it was racist, and then you said it was valid.
04:12:47.160
I think what Riley means is that you're getting the definition of sexist wrong because, yeah, it's comparing a man and a woman, right?
04:12:57.620
Yeah, but in this situation, it's not really...
04:13:00.580
If there's a statement that is racist, for example, ex-racial group is this negative trait, is that racist?
04:13:24.100
I'm saying basing a whole group off of a thought that's profiling, whether it's a man or a woman, a race, it's wrong, no matter what.
04:13:34.260
Okay, but so it's racist, but is it also sexist, then?
04:13:48.320
It is going against what you said, though, because you said the reasoning for all these women saying that they would rather choose the bear is because they had some type of trauma, and that's valid, but then...
04:14:05.720
If you had one bad experience or multiple, you can't really just, like, assume all men are like that.
04:14:11.300
Yeah, either way, like, we're agreeing, like, nobody should be grouped into something because one person did something, therefore the whole group is bad, you know?
04:14:22.780
So, but, okay, is it wrong for a woman to pick bear?
04:14:31.880
And then care too much about this argument, and it's not that serious.
04:14:35.520
Well, you guys were just saying how serious it was, actually, so...
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So, you say it's not wrong for a woman in this situation to pick the bear, right?
04:14:53.000
Is it wrong if we just replace it with a racial group?
04:14:59.260
Yeah, it is, because you're talking about racism versus sexism.
04:15:07.040
I'm a white woman who's talking about sexism, so I'm comfortable talking about sexism.
04:15:24.200
You can even advocate on behalf of other racial groups who experience racism.
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Just because you're white doesn't mean you can't advocate against racism.
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I'm saying it's different coming from somebody who is the group, as I am a woman.
04:15:41.480
What the fuck are you trying to get at right now?
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It's going to be dot, dot, dot, a.k.a. white people are racist, but go ahead.
04:15:59.500
I want to talk on behalf of women, because I am a woman.
04:16:05.740
I can talk about racism, but I'm not going to act like I experience it.
04:16:14.740
If you witness racism, can you categorize it as racism?
04:16:20.660
I'm saying, I'm not trying to talk on behalf of racism.
04:16:25.420
Yes, you are, because now you're changing the argument to if it was a certain racial group.
04:16:29.500
I'm comfortable talking about sexism, because I am a woman.
04:16:34.820
I don't experience racism, so I'm not trying to bring racism to this.
04:16:37.640
So if somebody said a racist remark towards a black person, you would have nothing to say?
04:16:47.920
Right, so I'm just asking you, if it would be racist...
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And I'm telling you, that's not my position to say.
04:16:57.060
And he's also saying, generally, you can't see from an outside perspective that all these
04:17:01.900
women saying that they would choose the bear, and all these videos, and how it would make
04:17:09.180
men feel bad that women are choosing a bear over a man.
04:17:13.880
He's saying, if you see racism, you can categorize it as racism.
04:17:18.380
If you see all these women choosing a bear, and all these men who are looking for women,
04:17:24.760
like women, want to be out there looking for a woman, and they're seeing all these women
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say that they would choose a bear over them, can you see, like, that's...
04:17:33.300
I think that's the point that he's trying to make.
04:17:42.520
Everyone freaked out over a random bird, and they would rather be in the woods with a random
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I would rather be in the woods with a man than a feminist.
04:17:54.180
But that's all I was trying to say, is like, I think that's the argument he was trying to
04:17:57.720
make, is that, like, you can see that when there's racism happening, you can know that
04:18:07.000
But then all of these women saying that they would rather choose a bear, and how that's
04:18:10.860
not wrong for all men who have done nothing, that are just looking on the internet, or
04:18:17.840
But from that logic, you're saying that this is so offensive, because a woman is choosing
04:18:23.240
So what if a woman says, I don't want to date you?
04:18:28.260
Like, this whole man and a bear thing is so stupid, because men are getting so deeply
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offended over something that's not that serious.
04:18:39.520
It actually, hold on, you're actually downplaying.
04:18:42.060
This is actually sexist in and of itself, to downplay.
04:18:50.260
Oh, men should be more open with their, how they feel.
04:18:53.600
Well, if men feel aggrieved by this blatantly sexist statement that women would prefer to
04:18:59.720
be in the forest with a wild fucking animal, a bear over a, what could be a totally innocent
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man, dangerous wild animal versus like, Nick, do you have that meme with the fucking Kyle?
04:19:15.960
You're just totally downplaying men's perspective.
04:19:18.400
We, men don't like to be perceived as predators.
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Yeah, and women have a bias against men and perceive men as predators and dangerous and
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violent, even though the vast majority of men aren't.
04:19:35.100
But what if, what if we just replace men with a racial group and this racial group had a,
04:19:41.760
had a disproportionate bias against them for violence and being dangerous?
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Can you think of a racial group who has experienced that?
04:19:53.520
We can't talk about sexism, but whites should keep your mouth closed barefoot and chained up
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I think, I think, I think, I think it's, I think it should change it.
04:20:21.560
You running away gives it a reason to chase you down.
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Running is actually the last thing you should do.
04:20:30.040
Yo, we have Mike Davis coming back in here, uh, cause I told him I would get to it.
04:20:36.380
So, Mike Davis in the chat coming in here in just a sec.
04:20:47.260
Brian, ask any of these females if they're Kamala voters and ins.
04:20:52.440
Uh, so that was the one that already came through.
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Literally 100% of my long-term relationships were with adulterous whores.
04:21:34.900
Should I now assume all women are adulterous whores?
04:21:44.800
Just because you have a bad experience with somebody of a group doesn't mean that all people belonging to same group are, uh, whatever.
04:21:54.500
Brickson, I used to enjoy your podcast, but then I realized you were white.
04:22:09.680
I said that my opinion on racism is not mattering because I am white.
04:22:21.900
That's exactly why this guy is telling you, Brian, that your opinion doesn't matter because you're white.
04:22:39.020
Women are misled by the one-third women will be essayed in their lifetime statistic.
04:22:44.480
That figure is only that high if essay is defined as any unwanted physical contact.
04:22:55.880
I mean, there's definitely a lot of bogus statistics going around on a lot of things.
04:23:03.220
Well, do you think, I mean, following this logic, do you think men shouldn't have a say on abortion?
04:23:09.760
Question, do you think if in furtherance of securing women's right to abortion, would you be in favor of disallowing men the right to vote on abortion issues?
04:23:23.900
They can vote on everything else except this thing.
04:23:33.400
But you don't think, they can still vote for it, but you'd rather they not.
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I just don't think it's as valid because as I was saying earlier, when you experience it directly and you are a part of that majority, then it's a different story than when you're just witnessing it.
04:23:48.480
That's why I'm saying, me speaking on racism, I can have my own opinion and everything, but I don't experience racism.
04:24:14.360
Against a male group, female group, it's sexism.
04:24:21.520
So you think that men should not have opinions on abortion?
04:24:27.120
I just think that in the end, yeah, I think it's more valid from a female perspective.
04:24:35.140
Because they are the ones having the abortions.
04:24:39.820
They can have their opinions, but in the end, it's most valid from somebody who experiences the trauma of getting an abortion or the fear of being pregnant.
04:24:47.720
Well, should men have any say when it comes to abortion rights?
04:24:56.180
Well, for example, the pro-life position might be they view it as life upon conception.
04:25:07.220
But in the end, they're not the one having the abortion.
04:25:25.760
But so I'm a little confused because I'm hearing a kind of two different things.
04:25:46.000
Wait, you're not prepared to have male allies on the pro-choice issue?
04:25:59.260
So they're also similarly wrong about their pro-choice position then?
04:26:07.940
I'm saying when you are a part of the group that is experiencing it, then your opinion is more valid.
04:26:19.200
Maybe she'll agree that male votes should only count at three-fifths as much as a woman's vote on abortion seems to fit into her general worldview.
04:26:37.500
I don't think that anyone's right should be taken away.
04:26:43.660
If forced to choose, would you rather date a Trump supporter or MS-13 gang member?
04:27:19.640
So would you rather date a Trump supporter or a...
04:27:33.460
No, because I can't pick one because being a Trump supporter isn't all you are in life
04:27:38.180
and being a gang member isn't all you are in life.
04:28:16.460
Should the entire voting population get a say on whether or not we have the death penalty?
04:28:21.680
By your logic, shouldn't only the victim's family have a say in whether murderers get the death penalty?
04:28:30.900
This is totally not related to dating, but I'm against the death penalty.
04:28:38.580
No, but this is totally unrelated, because nobody ever said that men shouldn't have the right to vote on abortion.
04:28:43.760
Like, whoever that is is arguing with a wall right now, because nobody ever said that.
04:28:51.680
I said that I find that there's more weight in a woman's opinion on abortion.
04:28:57.240
Because it is the woman who's having the abortion.
04:28:59.980
But I never said that they can't vote on it and they can't have an opinion on it.
04:29:02.860
What if a woman hasn't had an abortion, but she's still pro-choice?
04:29:12.280
But you said the people that experience it are more of a pregnancy.
04:29:15.300
If you're a woman who is sexually active, you're still experiencing the fear of, what if I get pregnant and something goes wrong and I need to have an abortion?
04:29:27.380
So even if you haven't had one, you still, if you're a sexually active woman, you have that fear in your life.
04:29:40.480
I'm talking about if you're sexually active women, which a lot are.
04:29:44.020
Because the abortion problem is obviously not a problem for a woman who's not having sex.
04:29:48.760
Because you can't get pregnant if you don't have sex.
04:30:01.800
Slave owners should have more weight on slavery since they're the ones owning slaves.
04:30:06.340
Women should have more weight on abortion since they're the ones having abortions.
04:30:28.400
I'm sure that's why she also supports gun rights.
04:30:31.820
Because an armed invader into your home is scary.
04:30:34.900
So she'd support keeping a gun by the bed to solve that fear.
04:30:50.540
Like these topics are not something that's like a...
04:30:53.620
If you're a gun owner or a Trump supporter, that is not who you are.
04:31:08.080
No surprise that racist, misandrous, white chicks in the panel will be voting for communism.
04:31:14.600
Can you communists name one policy she proposed other than abortion?
04:31:19.760
BTW, you are racist for not wanting to date Mexicans.
04:31:32.720
I think it's because, like, right before we clarified that it was a Mexican gang, and
04:31:38.720
No, it's like, there's gang members, and it's like, sure, you were in a gang, and then there's
04:32:42.800
Doesn't have to be a perfect one-to-one comparison.
04:32:47.560
It's about who society says gets to say when it comes to ending another person's life,
04:33:04.240
Graffito, I was about to play a little thing for you, but it got bugged.
04:33:43.540
So a woman's word on abortion has more weight, right?
04:33:51.400
Isn't that essentially like it's an opinion on who gets to have an opinion, sort of?
04:34:05.740
Neither males nor females have a monopoly on what is right or wrong.
04:34:14.180
I suppose while the ramifications of this topic may have more immediate effect on pregnant women,
04:34:20.360
I don't think this disqualifies men from forming well-reasoned beliefs on the topic.
04:34:30.000
In the same way, like, let's say there was a really solid male pro-choice advocate.
04:34:37.180
Your arguments don't have weight because you're a man.
04:34:41.360
Just because he agrees with me doesn't mean I'm going to change my stance on that.
04:34:46.200
Well, you wouldn't change your stance if he agrees with you.
04:34:49.680
My whole thing I just said right now, I'll say it again, is the reason I'm saying it
04:34:55.660
holds more weight is because it's the women who are experiencing it.
04:34:59.660
Just because a man is pro-choice and agrees with me doesn't mean I'm going to say, oh,
04:35:06.400
Men don't experience having abortions, whether they're pro-life or pro-choice.
04:35:10.740
Right, but we have, both men and women have mental faculties and can come to determinations
04:35:18.480
about a wide myriad of issues that might not necessarily impact them, but they can look
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at the reason and logic and arguments from both sides and come to determination whether
04:35:29.960
they have a penis or a vagina is kind of irrelevant.
04:35:32.980
It's not, though, because the experience that you have when you are actually the one
04:35:39.980
physically experiencing something is going to be different than somebody hearing about it.
04:35:44.820
Do you think a male gynecologist has perhaps a bit more understanding of female genital
04:36:02.560
Do you think a male gynecologist might actually have a bit more insight when it comes to gynecology,
04:36:08.480
oh my God, I can't pronounce this word, gynecological issues than just like a, say, an average woman?
04:36:18.520
So a man could study the arguments when it comes to abortion and perhaps...
04:36:29.880
Men do experience being on the receiving end of abortions.
04:36:37.120
But I don't think she thinks of them as people.
04:36:39.580
Just keep compartmentalizing them as a clump of cells.
04:37:34.320
I'm only bringing this up because you brought...
04:37:40.380
Yeah, but I told you I don't want to speak on behalf of racism because I'm not experiencing racism.
04:37:50.840
From this argument, which was an argument a while ago from what I remember, my response to this was white people can be discriminated against, but there's a difference between the weight behind it.
04:38:06.920
So it's a little bit different, the word racist and discrimination, just because there is a lot of history behind racism.
04:38:16.300
And there's a big difference between the history behind different races.
04:38:21.120
Are you prepared to say that both are equally just as bad and wrong?
04:38:29.960
Isn't that in and of itself a racist statement?
04:38:34.220
To say that you essentially can't be racist towards white people?
04:38:42.380
When I say you, I don't mean like you specifically.
04:38:46.060
I mean like can people be racist towards white people?
04:38:53.500
If you want to discriminate against somebody for their race, that's racism.
04:39:00.580
But you just said you can't be racist towards white people.
04:39:05.040
I never said you can't be racist towards white people.
04:39:09.040
You just said that you can't be racist towards white people because you're...
04:39:11.960
How would you feel this morning if you didn't have breakfast?
04:39:14.920
BTW, I've never committed arson, so I shouldn't be able to speak on the damages that arson can cause.
04:39:21.140
How would you feel this morning if you didn't have breakfast?
04:39:22.900
Yeah, how would you feel this morning if you didn't have breakfast?
04:39:32.540
How would you feel if you hadn't had breakfast this morning?
04:39:39.400
Women can be sexist towards other women, but white people can't be racist towards other whites.
04:39:49.640
Wait, but can women be sexist towards other women?
04:39:55.180
So can white people be racist towards other white people?
04:39:57.460
If you're a white person who doesn't like white people, then yeah.
04:40:01.040
But you just said, hold on, you said you cannot be racist towards white people.
04:40:12.940
I'm being abused mentally, spiritually, emotionally.
04:40:26.260
I'm just saying, I don't know if I want to use the word racist, just because racism typically will not happen towards white people.
04:40:39.160
But can white people be discriminated against for their race?
04:40:43.960
And if you want to use the word racist, then sure, you can use that word.
04:40:46.660
So you're saying, essentially, you can't be racist towards white people.
04:40:53.660
I'm saying, I don't know if I want to use that word, but what is racism?
04:40:58.620
Discriminating against somebody because of their race.
04:41:01.480
And I just said, white people can fully be discriminated for their race.
04:41:07.820
Using the words that just came out of your mouth.
04:41:13.480
Do you want to search up a definition of racism?
04:41:15.560
Well, some people buy into this definition of prejudice plus power.
04:41:30.740
No, it's not so much the research that she did.
04:41:36.920
They're making high school kids do research on identity politics.
04:41:44.440
So, like, it had to be something that was, like, more...
04:41:48.420
I wonder if your grade would have been worse if you came to the wrong conclusion.
04:41:55.820
I did bring up the argument of prejudice in mine.
04:41:58.240
And I don't want to, like, say anything because I really do not remember what that essay said at all.
04:42:04.200
But I do remember bringing up that, like, white people can experience prejudice.
04:42:12.620
But, yeah, I did bring up, like, the whole prejudice argument because of the definition.
04:42:26.880
Racism is discrimination and prejudice against people based on their race or ethnicity.
04:42:34.340
But some people use a different definition of there needs to be prejudice plus power.
04:42:42.620
Me and Nick, we have great minds to think alike.
04:42:48.300
I don't even know what that means, to be honest.
04:43:08.700
I do think that they can experience discrimination and stereotypes.
04:43:32.520
There's, like, white on white racism, black on black racism.
04:43:38.420
I had a black girl tell me that my opinion wasn't valid because I was white.
04:43:54.100
I mean, have you ever been stopped by the cops?
04:43:58.820
Did they pull you out of the car and arrest you and hurt you?
04:44:09.320
I've had bad encounters with, like, kind of rude police officers.
04:44:14.780
The guy I was with that I talked about earlier was white and he was arrested.
04:44:19.280
And he was handcuffed and put against the car violently.
04:44:23.900
But are you arguing that white people don't experience...
04:44:30.280
I'm just saying it's more likely to happen to somebody that's a person...
04:44:35.940
I would totally agree, like, white people don't experience...
04:44:40.200
But I think it happens more to people of color.
04:44:46.580
But the only argument I was actually about to make was she was, like, wanted to, like,
04:44:54.320
The federal government currently participates in anti-white racism.
04:44:58.140
They will not hire white people to achieve higher rates of minorities.
04:45:02.900
The FAA even created a test to identify and disqualify whites.
04:45:18.320
Could a white person experience racism in Africa?
04:45:21.540
America, her definition of it is privilege plus power, I would bet.
04:45:35.820
I think you like putting words in people's mouths.
04:45:39.780
The only person who puts anything in their mouth is Lexi.
04:46:04.520
Yeah, but she was, like, arguing with me about that.
04:46:17.940
Proved in World War II women were great snipers of men.
04:46:21.960
Large women with bad aim can serve in the obese battalion drawing enemy fire.
04:46:28.800
Yeah, no skill needed to waste the enemy's bullets, I guess.
04:46:40.920
Guys, it's been two hours since we lost God of Prime.
04:46:58.720
Video of you smoking a cigarette dungeon with zero comments.
04:48:37.100
I think the women are thinking about the men that get something bad to them.
04:48:42.540
I think, like, see how you're comparing it to Kyle?
04:48:46.980
I think the women who are posting about this are comparing it to the men who have, like,
04:48:52.900
done things to them that caused them to choose the bear.
04:49:00.940
Well, if I knew it was Kyle in the woods, I would want Kyle.
04:49:03.780
By the way, Nick wanted to weigh in on this conversation, and he's like, it's the genetic fallacy, I think.
04:49:11.120
Nick has been learning all about fallacies at debateuniversity.com.
04:49:19.280
Guys, go to debateuniversity.com if you want to learn how to debate.
04:49:24.820
If you want to learn how to become a master debater, get the verbal combat course.
04:49:37.120
These people spend thousands, $10,000 going to university.
04:49:40.840
You're going to learn more from this course than going to college.
04:50:00.660
Let's do a react while our friend there's back there eating...
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Women are attracted to men who are willing to die.
04:50:33.960
My fiancé, 24 male, and I, 24 female, have been dating for six years.
04:50:39.800
He proposed to me a few months ago, which was the happiest moment of my life.
04:50:45.680
However, after what happened last night, I'm seriously considering breaking up with my fiancé,
04:50:56.680
My fiancé, my brother, and I were all walking back to our car from dinner at a nice restaurant.
04:51:01.580
The car was parked pretty far away as the place was packed, so we had to walk quite some distance.
04:51:05.440
It was late at night, and as we were walking, a person in a bike came to the side of us and stopped us and demanded we give everything we had.
04:51:12.780
My fiancé panicked and just ran away, but my brother, after talking to the man for a couple minutes, just attacked the man.
04:51:31.380
I wish that woman learned to type more correctly.
04:51:39.820
It's that sucks for the man that ran away, because he obviously has the flight of the fighter flight, but yeah, that's definitely a huge red flag.
04:51:52.740
This is why you should never be vulnerable in front of a woman.
04:51:57.000
Well, no, I have the same mindset, but I think he should have taken her or something, brought her arm, and then ran away, because obviously he wasn't thinking about her at all in a dangerous situation.
04:52:08.060
I think if there's a criminal who has a gun, a revolver, with one bullet in it, I think the woman should jump in front of the bullet to protect the man.
04:52:20.980
And maybe she would have done that if he didn't run away.
04:52:28.460
If somebody has to take the bullet, I think the woman should take the bullet.
04:52:33.180
Women, that's not what I'm saying, but I think women should take the bullet.
04:52:43.000
The woman always needs to dive and take the bullet for the man.
04:52:46.380
I'm just, like, thinking about the situation, if my dad were to be with me, my dad would take it for me, and my mom.
04:52:52.060
So, like, I'm just thinking about if I was in her position, I wouldn't do it for my husband.
04:53:06.180
When I was with my ex, when I was between 13 and 20 years old, he was selling marijuana.
04:53:15.320
And there was a guy that we had known for six years.
04:53:24.200
He came to the house while we were outside, and he pulled out a gun and put it to his head.
04:53:30.580
And we had a bottle of alcohol, and I grabbed the bottle, and I told the guy that had the gun to him that I would smash it over his head if it did anything to him.
04:53:42.800
Then he held the gun to my head, and he put it against my ribs, and then he made my ex get on his knees, and he was going to, like, execute him.
04:53:51.700
He was on his knees with the gun behind his head, and I smashed the bottle on his head, and he passed out.
04:54:03.100
And I think you're correct in that women should try and fight a guy off just as much as a guy should if they're in that situation, if they're in a serious situation like that.
04:54:18.380
Yeah, I feel like he's saying women should sacrifice themselves.
04:54:21.560
Yeah, I don't think that anybody disagrees with you.
04:54:26.480
In that situation, you didn't sacrifice yourself.
04:54:34.060
That's just saying you're going to have a bottle.
04:54:35.140
I would have taken the bullet, though, if he shot.
04:54:38.320
I think it's your significant other should be there to protect him.
04:54:41.680
If you knew him now and that situation happened now, would you take the bullet for him?
04:54:48.660
Imagine how bad it would suck if you died for him.
04:54:54.320
But if there was a guy that I was with now and I loved, I would take a bullet for him.
04:54:57.480
So, we have Stifler ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10.
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Do you think you're better looking than your friend?
04:56:25.180
No, I think we are two completely different people that look completely different, but compare
04:56:28.760
me to a girl that looks like me, then I could compare it.
04:56:56.900
No, I was just asking if we can do 7 for this one.
04:57:36.720
But the height, and you still have a good head of hair and beard, I would say like a 6.
04:58:17.100
You look like you're just wearing a headband now.
04:58:49.120
I'm not going to rate you guys, because my scounder doesn't do that.
04:58:53.560
But, you know, you've greatly overestimated your power level.
04:59:20.060
The only 8 to 10 at this table is the one with blue hair.
04:59:26.820
Yeah, I think everyone's beautiful, and it's all about self-confidence.
04:59:31.560
Yeah, I feel like if you're confident, that makes you even more attractive.
04:59:35.520
All these girls would be settling for me, by the way.
05:00:07.680
So what if about somebody who's objectively ugly is super confident?
05:00:14.060
I just think that everyone's beautiful and brown and whitey.
05:00:18.400
Oh, this is actually a good question that just occurred to me.
05:00:32.880
The people that have deformities and are born that way.
05:00:36.200
That line of coke in the bathroom didn't do you any good.
05:00:44.760
You know how you're talking about her not dating?
05:00:45.180
Are you against dating people with deformities?
05:00:49.440
If they're really freaking ugly and they have deformities, are you saying...
05:00:55.360
Well, apparently, if you're going around the table to ask if we're dating somebody that's
05:01:22.260
Like a really, like, objectively ugly person, do you think there are chances of getting,
05:01:35.400
Okay, it's not high, it's not high, but Gucci went through that phase.
05:01:40.880
I feel like everyone's going through that phase.
05:01:41.280
Are you going to do the cocaine in the bathroom, eh?
05:01:46.180
I don't think, like, a deformed, ugly person could get a modeling contract, but maybe, like,
05:01:56.360
I don't think everyone's beautiful, if I'm being completely honest.
05:01:59.760
Like, there's definitely beautiful people in the world who are objectively, like, attractive.
05:02:04.600
Yeah, but I'm thinking about, I always, like, I mean, I've dated not the cutest guys, and
05:02:08.620
it's, like, what's on the inside for me all the time.
05:02:11.400
There's obviously people that get modeling contracts that are objectively beautiful that
05:02:16.700
go through all the steps, but there's also people that just have the connections,
05:02:20.220
and they're in no way beautiful, but they have the connections to become a model.
05:02:30.480
Have you ever seen, have you ever seen Kamala's daughter?
05:02:37.300
Well, not her daughter, her husband's daughter.
05:02:40.920
She is objectively not beautiful, but she is a actual supermodel because of all the connections
05:03:14.940
I come back, and you guys are pulling up pictures of her.
05:03:34.660
No, if you've seen her in her modeling photographs.
05:03:52.320
That's what people look for in models, is unique features.
05:03:55.680
Well, I think you can have unique features, but if you're objectively beautiful and you
05:04:01.140
But if the connections are working for you, and the unique features and beauty don't match
05:04:09.780
We could also say the beauty is somewhat subjective.
05:04:21.060
As somebody who has an irregular attraction to large labia, it is subjective.
05:04:37.480
So, I only date women with large labia, but, like, it's not just Audis.
05:04:41.720
Like, it needs to be, like, world record labia.
05:04:49.060
I should ask the women if y'all have a labia preference.
05:04:57.620
That's not, like, a thing that you, like, ask people.
05:05:24.760
He's saying, he said, before we start this date, let me make sure you have some flapping lips.
05:05:36.300
I'll tell the girl, if she asks, I'll tell her what's up.
05:05:38.720
You don't think that's weird if I ask you that?
05:05:44.040
If you show them the 420 P-Flex video, the rating might go higher.
05:05:56.040
Unrelated, but I have a question for you from the rating stuff.
05:06:10.120
My question was, because you said that we were.
05:06:18.080
Because you said that we all overranked ourselves.
05:06:31.840
A 9 is, like, one of the most attractive women you've ever seen in your life.
05:06:38.640
You'll maybe see a 9 once a year if you're lucky.
05:06:44.200
You want me to articulate, like, the facial symmetry?
05:06:53.240
Yeah, like, what you're, like, saying that we're all overranking ourselves.
05:06:58.440
And I think there's a lot of beautiful women in this room.
05:07:00.880
So that's why I'm thinking, shit, yeah, there are.
05:07:04.300
So that's why I'm like, shit, if we're a bunch of 2s, then what's a 10?
05:07:07.220
I'm not saying you're 2s, but there's a little elevation, if you know what I mean.
05:07:15.780
It's always difficult for me to find, to, like, think of a specific person who is a 9.
05:07:28.760
I'm trying to think if, because, like, most famous people, I feel like, are 7s or 8s.
05:07:35.880
I can't think of, like, famous people that are, like, not, like, most 9s are, like...
05:07:50.800
I don't think there's, like, an actress that's, like, famous that I can just name that I'm like, yeah, she's a 9.
05:07:57.980
Uh, she's definitely an attractive woman, but, like, I think walking around Santa Barbara, I could walk around Santa Barbara any day and see a girl just as attractive or more attractive than her.
05:08:12.840
There's tons of beautiful girls here, so I don't think she's, like, she's attractive, but...
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Hashtag big labia mat to bring on the roast reception.
05:08:49.960
Well, she's not a 10, but she's very attractive.
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I feel like you're, like, if nobody can be a 10, then I feel like it's really, like, a 1 through 9 rating system.
05:09:12.640
If nobody, like, I feel like you have a slightly different, like, standard than most people do.
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Scroll down, scroll down, scroll down, scroll down, scroll down.
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There's a specific picture that I'm thinking of.
05:10:56.880
I didn't say that, but I just feel like she's so far out of your league that you're like,
05:11:06.140
I just feel like you, of all people, can't be determining whether someone's like this
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What, like, what rating of a girl do you think, like, you would?
05:11:24.280
Uh, looks-wise, I think, uh, I can get five or six.
05:11:29.940
Well, I mean, my league's five, but, like, I can pull a six.
05:12:09.920
I don't, I think there's better looking women than her.
05:12:24.540
Okay, so how about, oh, Nick, the, the, that one, the second, first one?
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The second or first or second one at the very top.
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I think you're a bit brutal with these ratings.
05:13:15.320
So how is this supposed to be an accurate rating if no 10 exists?
05:13:20.140
So technically, there's no 10 in this, so every six is a seven then?
05:13:23.580
Okay, so five is average, six, above average, seven, attractive, eight, beautiful, nine,
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like the top, like insanely attractive, could be a supermodel, like that's what we're talking
05:13:55.100
I've seen better looking women than Adriana Linema.
05:14:08.100
I give her maybe, let's say 8.5 for Adriana Linema.
05:14:27.800
And then do you have a height preference for men?
05:14:30.780
I'm 5'4 and 3 quarters, and as long as the guy is 5'5 or above, I don't have a preference.
05:14:41.560
I'm 5'10, and my height preference is 6 foot and above.
05:14:53.720
I just want them to be, like, bigger than me, honestly.
05:15:45.540
So, do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time?
05:15:52.220
No, I think my prime is probably, like, now and 5 years in the future.
05:16:26.440
I think, hopefully, I'll lose my baby face and look more mature.
05:16:51.040
I am hoping that I'll lose my baby face and look more mature, but I don't think I'll necessarily
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And then, are you better looking now as compared to when you were 18?
05:17:15.200
Multiply it by three and that's the real number.
05:17:43.180
We're almost through all the pre-show notes, though.
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I think, okay, we finished all the pre-show notes.
05:18:04.320
Those at the table who are modest and honest with themselves just gained the four rank.
05:18:25.200
So, basically, they were getting, like, robbed.
05:18:36.160
It wasn't like 2.5 years or something like that?
05:18:49.140
And then, she's seriously considering breaking up with your fiance because they got robbed
05:19:06.740
I did it this quick because it was not fair to him or to me to keep this relationship just
05:19:11.960
Yes, I loved him a lot and will always cherish the memories I had with him.
05:19:25.520
She may not be a 10 to anyone else, but she is to you.
05:19:30.140
A beautiful heart is worth more than 1,000 beautiful faces.
05:19:45.860
Although, would it be wrong if it's your girl and objectively, you're like, she's a 7?
05:19:57.500
Look, as a guy, you're like, okay, I'm kind of mid.
05:20:10.980
You're like, yeah, there's women who are more attractive than her.
05:20:14.820
You can still love her, but you're like, yeah, she's a 5.
05:20:18.940
As long as you're realistic and you're like, we're both average.
05:20:41.840
And if they asked me, I'd be like, relax, lady.
05:21:17.660
Any chance we could get a react to the Finding Out Your Girl Cheated on Thanksgiving video?
05:21:52.720
If you want to see a 10, fire up pays in the end Lincoln Park cover from 2021.
05:22:17.160
I was, I don't know if he's speaking specifically about his BLM or another BLM, but there were
05:22:28.700
people that came around that were saying things while I was singing in the streets of Hollywood.
05:22:47.540
To be clear, I don't blame him for what he did in running away.
05:22:50.820
It was his natural instinct, and I completely understand that.
05:22:53.820
But when my brother instinctively stepped in front of me to shield me from the attacker in
05:22:57.900
comparison to my fiancee, just running away scared, it pretty much evaporated most of,
05:23:05.020
I've just learned about myself that one of my love languages is safety and security.
05:23:12.600
This is, so I think what this illustrates is, as a man, you should never be vulnerable in
05:23:36.320
Would this not be the, like, epitome of being vulnerable in a woman?
05:23:46.600
Toes friendly and topical to a lot of your guests.
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You will find it under the title of When You Find Out Your Girl Cheated on Thanksgiving.
05:24:01.900
Nick, can you look it up, but send it to me in private chat so I can look at it first,
05:24:07.400
I was just, I was just jumping to conclusions to be, like, you can never be vulnerable with
05:24:13.240
a woman, just because in the most extreme situation, it caused that with one person.
05:24:20.700
I don't think that's a deal-breaker situation, but I would definitely be really mad.
05:24:25.660
She would never respect you, even if she didn't dump him, that woman.
05:24:40.500
And so being vulnerable in front of your chick triggers the ick.
05:24:50.340
Okay, what percentage of women in that same exact situation would also feel the ick?
05:25:05.960
You're just taking one situation and saying you can never be vulnerable in any sense.
05:25:10.680
But do you think that if it was, the genders were reversed in this situation, and the woman
05:25:23.160
Sexism is alive and well, and y'all are sexist against men, because a man can't run away
05:25:39.720
But it's your personal opinion that guys should not be vulnerable in front of women ever?
05:25:43.280
He invests six years into a woman, and he has one slip up.
05:25:55.180
But that goes against what you were just saying.
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About how women should jump in front of the bullet.
05:26:01.240
So if the guy didn't jump in front of the bullet, then she should leave him?
05:26:09.140
Well, the difference here is, men don't expect women to jump in front of the bullet, but women
05:26:18.720
If a girl told me she wasn't willing to, like, jump in, like, protect me, I wouldn't
05:26:27.540
But, like, a lot of women, if a guy wasn't willing to protect you, you would lose a traction
05:26:34.800
Right, but that's contradicting to what you both, what you said for both times.
05:26:39.320
You said that a woman should jump in front of the bullet.
05:26:43.860
And then you also said that if a man is going to...
05:26:53.340
If you have children, the woman should definitely jump in front of the bullet, because I'm more
05:26:57.440
capable of protecting and providing for the child.
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Secondly, there's this trope of, if a man's not willing to sacrifice his life for a woman,
05:27:11.260
I actually think, and I don't like the alpha, beta stuff, whatever, but I actually think
05:27:16.600
the more alpha move is you let the woman take the bullet, and then you just go find
05:27:23.340
another woman, so you can continue, you can continue surviving, and you can reproduce
05:27:32.960
Right, and I totally understand that, and that makes sense, but what I'm saying is...
05:27:38.060
You said men should never be vulnerable in front of women, and wouldn't the woman taking
05:27:44.440
the bullet make the man vulnerable in that situation if the man's not taking the bullet?
05:27:50.020
Okay, but that's what I'm exactly arguing you against.
05:27:58.620
I don't think it's contradictory, because I'm saying that a woman would have a judgment
05:28:03.880
against a man who's not willing to protect them, right?
05:28:06.620
But what I'm saying, more so from the angle of, like, what's best for the individual man
05:28:15.840
But you wouldn't have an opinion against the woman that didn't take the bullet for you?
05:28:22.740
But I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm saying what should be.
05:28:28.640
Like, if a woman didn't want to fucking, wasn't able to protect me, I wouldn't be less attracted
05:28:37.560
Like, if I saw a woman, like, get knocked the fuck out in a fight with another woman,
05:28:45.860
But there's plenty of stories of girls who had boyfriends, and they saw their boyfriend
05:28:51.840
get fucking sparked in a fight, and they dumped the dude.
05:29:04.060
But if a girl sees her boyfriend get knocked the fuck out in a fight, they will lose attraction
05:29:13.100
Because there's different reasons why women find men attractive than why men find women
05:29:24.360
But I'm saying, in, like, a scenario, the woman should take the bullet.
05:29:32.320
So then the man, he can save his vulnerability.
05:29:36.020
So it would be alpha for the woman to take the bullet.
05:29:38.660
No, it wouldn't be alpha for the woman to take the bullet.
05:29:41.880
I'm saying, the man who is willing to let his woman die instead of him, that is the
05:29:52.280
That's the more, that's the more, like, alpha, I'm gonna survive.
05:29:59.720
I get to find another woman and reproduce with the other woman.
05:30:05.360
Putting a woman between you and imminent danger drives a pun any faster than the Sahara and
05:30:44.780
I don't know if any of us want you to play that.
05:30:51.200
I will watch it after the show, and if it's good, I will play it next show.
05:31:10.440
You can't pick what alpha traits you want to be.
05:31:18.820
Dying for a girl who is going to fuck a guy after your funeral, or letting her die...
05:31:33.060
Because that's all that matters in Brian's world.
05:31:41.940
At the last day, final judgment before God, all our deeds will be seen by all our family
05:31:51.480
All humanity of every stance and lifestyle needs sanctification.
05:32:14.000
We should talk more about feminism and how it's terrible.
05:32:44.780
But dark truth, if you want her to be attracted to you, be the guy shooting at random couples,
05:33:06.020
Just be the joker and then he'll attract women, I guess.
05:33:19.500
Because I am a feminist and that would be going against what I stand for.
05:33:28.820
I thought you said your beliefs don't define who you are as a person.
05:33:41.600
Yeah, it's not your entire personality, so if you just...
05:33:47.380
A lot of men will claim that they're not a feminist just because they're afraid to say
05:33:53.100
that they're a feminist because of bias around the word, but they'll still be for equality,
05:34:00.900
Wait, but so you think you have to be a feminist to be for equality?
05:34:16.380
But you can be for equality but not be a feminist.
05:34:38.800
She's saying you can say it, but it's not true.
05:34:42.100
You can be a feminist and not say that you're a feminist.
05:34:46.000
And you can have sex with boys and say that you are not gay and still be gay.
05:35:08.360
I'm saying you can not label yourself as something but still be it.
05:35:22.040
In my world, if people I surround myself with, I wouldn't want to just have people in my life
05:35:28.600
What would you argue about with an anti-feminist?
05:35:43.300
And I'll give you my charitable definition and then I'll give you the actual, what I actually
05:35:47.780
The charitable definition is feminism is a woman's advocacy movement.
05:35:54.500
What is wrong with it, though, is trying to paint it as an equality movement.
05:36:00.680
Because advocating for women does not mean you advocate for equality.
05:36:04.620
Because equality, stand to reason, you would fight for equality even when it goes against
05:36:14.380
So my question for you is, would you say that you're for equality?
05:36:31.860
You don't have to label yourself as a feminist.
05:36:36.420
No, I'm saying that's how I would consider you.
05:37:15.080
You don't have to label yourself a feminist because of what you think of as a feminist is
05:37:20.120
whatever you think, that you're biased around the word and the term, but what I think as
05:37:26.360
a feminist and what the definition will probably say is somebody who strives for equality between
05:37:31.620
men and women, therefore you technically are a feminist.
05:37:38.880
But technically, what's being a feminist wanting equality between men and women?
05:37:43.860
And I just asked you if you want equality between men and women, and you said yes.
05:37:55.340
So feminism, I mean, there's different definitions.
05:38:00.480
My most charitable definition is it's a woman's advocacy movement, right?
05:38:05.480
Now, what it really is, is a man-hating ideology.
05:38:20.400
It's a man-hating ideology that actually believes in female supremacy.
05:38:28.040
Well, however they want or think it's described or defined, in practice, that's what I'm interested
05:38:37.720
Okay, if we don't have definitions, like standard definitions we can agree upon, though,
05:38:49.060
But if feminism was about equality, why don't feminists fight for equality?
05:39:04.560
It would come to the detriment of women if they were subject to forced military conscription,
05:39:09.560
aka feminists do not fight for it, because it comes at the detriment of women, the same
05:39:18.000
I don't even consider myself a feminist, but I feel like they...
05:39:24.660
The typical feminists would be like, yeah, women should get drafted.
05:39:46.540
We're closer to war than at any point in the past 30 years.
05:40:17.680
Well, here, I'll give you another example besides the draft.
05:40:26.240
There was a bill that was attempting to equalize child custody between the parents.
05:40:34.840
I believe it was the National Organization for Women, which is one of the, I believe, largest
05:40:39.240
women's or feminist organizations in the country.
05:40:48.160
Essentially, they fought against equalizing child custody between fathers and mothers.
05:41:05.420
I'm not going to speak on behalf of every single person that claims to be a feminist.
05:41:09.280
You mean the leading feminist organization in this country that fought against equalizing
05:41:23.020
Well, so, here's where I think the big issue is with feminism.
05:41:36.160
Okay, so, I mean, if you take, essentially, any feminist course in college, this is something
05:41:44.200
They're going to teach you that there's a patriarchy, essentially, that, um, that, uh,
05:41:50.600
I mean, it's difficult because there's so many different definitions of patriarchy.
05:42:05.160
50 U.S. Code, Chapter 49, Military Selective Service, you're welcome.
05:42:10.720
Not that you'll appreciate it, much like everything else every man has ever done for you.
05:42:25.560
So, uh, a system of society or government in which men hold the power and women are largely
05:42:31.880
Another one, patriarchy is a social system in which men dominate over others, but can also
05:42:39.620
It can also extend to a variety of manifestations in which men have social privileges over others
05:43:05.900
Do I think that men are ruling over women right now?
05:43:44.220
There's definitely privileges that male have that females have.
05:43:48.620
Like, you know, there's male privileges that females don't have,
05:43:53.180
and there's female privileges that men don't have.
05:43:57.940
But you said that women, was the word oppressed,
05:44:05.200
I said, I would say women are discriminated against.
05:44:18.300
but if you're going to ask me who experiences more discrimination,
05:44:27.820
If I told you it was women, would you believe me?
05:44:33.020
Yeah, but going to college, that doesn't have anything to do with anything.
05:44:37.560
But you get into college because of your grades that you get in high school.
05:44:44.840
If I applied to colleges, you know what I would get into?
05:44:50.360
They're not going to let me in because I'm a woman.
05:44:57.120
It depends on your grades and what you have on your transcript.
05:45:00.960
And they're not going to see on the profile that I'm a woman,
05:45:06.500
Yeah, it doesn't mean you're going to get the green light immediately.
05:45:11.100
In any case, women are more likely to go to university.
05:45:15.040
They're more likely to graduate from university,
05:45:19.400
Well, good for women then, because that has nothing to do with their privilege.
05:45:24.040
Because you get into college due to your grades that you worked for.
05:45:28.660
You graduate college because you worked throughout college.
05:45:32.380
But what is happening in society that is either pushing men away from university
05:45:37.680
or we're seeing less enrollment of men in university?
05:45:44.320
So if women get paid less than men, it's also women's choice?
05:45:52.020
Oh, but so whenever something is – hold on, hold on.
05:45:57.580
So whenever there is something that disproportionately negatively impacts men,
05:46:05.160
But if something negatively disproportionately impacts women,
05:46:12.260
No, because your two examples – when you go to college, nobody makes you go to college.
05:46:22.540
What you get paid is determined by your boss and your managers.
05:46:29.140
So you don't believe in the pay gap between men and women then?
05:46:35.500
Do you believe that there's a pay gap between men, the gender pay gap?
05:46:38.160
From my experience and jobs that I have had, no, because I've never worked in corporate or anything.
05:46:46.840
In fact, Kamala recently actually repeated this falsehood that there is a –
05:46:53.260
I think she said 80 cents on the dollar to a man, 82 cents on the dollar.
05:46:57.920
So repeated the myth, but do you believe it exists?
05:47:01.520
I believe that it exists because typically if – let's say, for example, the man in charge of the company is sexist.
05:47:10.900
Because not every man is sexist, but let's say he is.
05:47:13.500
He's going to hire a woman and a man for the same job.
05:47:16.960
But because he is sexist, he believes that women are not as smart.
05:47:25.260
Maybe she doesn't realize that a bunch of schools just got sued and their case went all the way to the Supreme Court
05:47:32.640
because they were discriminating against Asians and whites and men, Harvard, UNC.
05:47:43.180
Significant discrimination against Asian students.
05:47:51.760
That essentially Asian students had to score way higher on like SATs and these sorts of testing tests in order to get accepted as compared to other racial groups.
05:48:05.960
Yeah, so they were essentially discriminating against Asians.
05:48:10.720
But so back to the conversation you were saying.
05:48:19.040
Every time one of those comes in, I like forget what I was talking about.
05:48:21.640
We were talking about wage, the gender wage gap.
05:48:27.180
So in the situation that the boss is sexist and he has a mindset that women are not as smart as men because a lot of sexist men do have that mindset,
05:48:38.680
then he's going to think, well, she doesn't deserve the equal pay because he is more qualified, so he's going to pay her less.
05:48:55.560
Most HR departments which handle hiring are made up of women.
05:48:59.300
So women can be sexist, too, in those scenarios.
05:49:09.520
Also, if it was the case that there actually was a gender pay gap, people are in the business.
05:49:22.360
You can out-compete your competitors, lower your prices, get more market share simply by hiring just women.
05:49:33.280
So you don't think that the scenario that I just described, you don't think that's ever happened?
05:49:43.300
So you don't think that maybe a man paid a woman less.
05:49:49.900
And you don't think that if he's sexist that maybe he pays her less because he believes she deserves less because she doesn't have as much qualifications just because she's a woman?
05:49:58.020
Well, does she actually have less qualifications?
05:50:02.420
If the woman can prove it, she could bring a lawsuit against him.
05:50:07.760
So you're telling me you don't think that that has ever happened and that the pay gap doesn't exist?
05:50:20.560
Right, but then here's, hold on, here's the rebuttal.
05:50:23.420
There are women who are also sexist and who have a preference for hiring other women and they exclude men from their own hiring practices.
05:50:34.340
Okay, but your argument is do women get paid less?
05:50:50.200
No, the main argument is do women get paid less?
05:50:55.440
When you bring up the wage gap, when you bring up the wage gap.
05:51:00.120
No, when you bring up the wage gap, what do you think?
05:51:02.040
Like, oh, the argument is women are getting less money.
05:51:05.660
But you're saying, well, because there are some sexist men that that is evidence of the wage gap.
05:51:13.140
But then I could just say, well, let's assume that there's an equal amount of sexist women.
05:51:19.260
So it would just cancel, the sexism would just cancel out.
05:51:22.360
Okay, but that assumption is also kind of inaccurate.
05:51:32.000
Like, what is an example of a man being sexist that you could give?
05:52:01.860
I'm just, I'm not sure how it's really pertinent to the conversation at hand.
05:52:05.920
I'm sure I could give you an example, but I'm not sure it's really going to move things forward.
05:52:11.120
I think, like, a definition or, like, just an example would help in the context of understanding.
05:52:17.560
An example, okay, a man just outright refused to hire women.
05:52:28.400
But it would also be sexist if women refused to hire men, so.
05:52:34.200
I, can I say a personal experience that I've had that relates to this?
05:52:39.200
Um, so I was, when I was 16 years old, I was hired as a general manager of a Domino's and, by a woman.
05:52:49.040
And I was working there, and she refused to pay me as much as the general manager she had before that.
05:52:55.620
And then they moved a man in, and this is going to get kind of iffy, but I was 16 years old, like I said, and the man told me he was going to take my job unless I sent him nude photographs.
05:53:12.580
And also, that woman that hired me had his back and said that I would be fired if I didn't agree to whatever he said.
05:53:35.940
I know that goes a little bit against of what Brian's saying, but at the same time, they were both being sexist and also not paying me enough.
05:53:43.760
They were paying me $10 an hour to be the general manager compared to the man that was going to be the general manager.
05:53:51.040
And did you have the same qualifications as that man?
05:53:54.700
I was younger, but I still had the same qualifications.
05:54:00.380
Yeah, one anecdotal example does not prove that there's a widespread pay gap.
05:54:12.520
Women models who do the exact same job make more than men.
05:54:16.940
And that, again, inaccurate because your argument is the same as when we brought up basketball.
05:54:25.640
There's more people subscribing to these women because more men watch OnlyFans.
05:54:36.700
So just because you get more bitches on OnlyFans doesn't make it unfair that nobody's subscribing to your OnlyFans.
05:54:45.060
Also, think about Caitlin Clark in women's basketball.
05:54:50.600
Do you know how many people tuned in to watch Caitlin Clark more than the Celtics, which usually have more viewers?
05:54:57.700
But because Caitlin Clark has gotten so big, she has been making more than the Celtics do, even though they have more viewers, which is to the point that you said earlier.
05:55:12.660
And that, again, proved my point because I said...
05:55:16.180
I think I'm agreeing with you because it does come to sexism.
05:55:22.180
I think it's more whoever is being sexist in that instance is what depends on however much that person is going to be making.
05:55:30.180
And more commonly, there's going to be a lower wage for the woman because...
05:55:40.300
Actually, a woman recently won, I believe it was a Nobel Prize in economics on this.
05:55:55.020
You said earlier it has to do with male choices, right, when it comes to going to college.
05:56:20.880
This opportunity pay gap measures median salary for all men and all women.
05:56:26.700
This measures median salary for men and women with the same job and qualifications.
05:56:38.180
So, my point is, in a world where the manager is sexist or whatever, more commonly a woman will be paid less than a man is going to choose between the two and pay the man less.
05:57:00.500
So, while I will grant that there are sexist men, there are also sexist women.
05:57:08.180
There can be a wage gap because of sexism, not because they're a woman or a man.
05:57:13.940
Yeah, but also to your story, the person who was giving you less pay was a woman.
05:57:19.880
So, not depending on whether it's a man or a woman in charge, it's depending on whether it's a sexist person in charge.
05:57:27.880
So, what you're saying is, well, what if it's different if a woman's in charge?
05:57:36.900
Because she got paid less by a woman who was sexist towards women.
05:57:45.780
I'm not discounting that there are sexist people.
05:57:50.580
The argument is whether there's a wage gap that exists and if it's due to sexism.
05:58:06.480
Not because there's a wage gap generally between men and women.
05:58:11.160
I think it's if they are in a position and then there's someone above them, that is sexist.
05:58:16.140
And that's why there would be some type of difference in wage.
05:58:19.480
Not because there's a wage gap between men and women.
05:58:22.380
It's just whoever your boss is, that's what your pay depends on.
05:58:32.960
They're more likely to take on hazardous jobs that pay more.
05:58:36.860
They're more likely to relocate to bumfuck nowhere that pays more to work.
05:58:45.060
Women are much more likely to prioritize work-life balance, flexibility, fulfilling lives over...
05:58:51.960
Men will go work on a fucking oil derrick in the middle of the ocean with 30-foot waves crashing up against this shit and not seeing anybody for days, weeks, or months at a time.
05:59:06.980
They also tend to gravitate more towards certain STEM fields that pay more.
05:59:11.320
Women will prioritize certain jobs and have interest in certain jobs that tend to earn less money.
05:59:19.160
Okay, so that has nothing to do with the wage gap, though.
05:59:28.840
Because we're talking about two people in the same position making a different wage.
05:59:38.340
No shit, if you do a harder job, you get paid more money.
05:59:44.740
So do you agree that the wage gap, then, that you're talking about, the controlled wage gap, you're going to see that it's one cent off?
05:59:52.760
I'm not saying that in general, in the whole world, that there's a wage gap.
05:59:56.480
I'm just saying that in the world, there is a sexist manager.
06:00:02.300
They're most likely going to be sexist towards the woman because...
06:00:10.200
Okay, I'm not going to allow you to just say they're more likely going to be sexist towards women because, actually, they've done studies on this.
06:00:16.800
So women have a very strong in-group bias for other women.
06:00:20.760
And then men have a slight out-group bias for women.
06:00:24.720
So this idea that, like, I actually think this idea that men hate women...
06:00:32.560
When I say bias, it's a positive bias towards women.
06:00:35.900
Slight, but they don't have an in-group bias towards men the same way that women have a massive in-group bias for other women.
06:00:46.300
We can even find the study if you doubt that, but...
06:00:53.100
Well, now you made me lose my train of thought.
06:00:58.600
I had a point, and then you went on a rant, and now I'm lost.
06:01:16.340
Anyways, we'll move off of the wage gap in any case.
06:01:19.520
But I would say there are far more important...
06:01:28.340
That's the same thing as saying it's a W for you.
06:01:35.040
I'm actually more interested in much more important gaps.
06:01:58.660
Work in fucking undesirable, disgusting, dirty jobs gap.
06:02:16.640
It values moral boundaries and it benefited societal cohesion until the 1920s.
06:02:24.100
It values moral permissiveness, which has been to the detriment of societal cohesion.
06:02:33.520
Also, men are more likely to work jobs that prop up the entire infrastructure of society
06:02:41.200
so you can all live your pampered, cushy lives in your air-conditioned office jobs.
06:02:55.560
No, you're inaccurate right now because you're comparing jobs that men choose to do
06:03:01.900
and you're comparing wages that we are forced to accept.
06:03:14.620
But do you think more women try to choose to do those jobs that men do?
06:03:19.360
I don't think a lot of women choose to do those jobs, but...
06:03:36.860
So then what's the point of bringing up this argument of women don't choose their salaries,
06:03:43.220
The point is the wage gap that you are bringing up.
06:03:46.740
And I'm saying that in a world where there is a sexist manager...
06:03:53.880
I said in a world that the manager is sexist, not just in general and every job.
06:03:58.720
And in a world where there's a female sexist manager, she's also discriminating against men.
06:04:16.540
Have you heard of diversity, equity, and inclusion?
06:04:21.120
Do these discriminate against women or against men?
06:04:37.820
Describe sounds like it's trying to benefit everybody.
06:04:44.760
It's feeding into trying to make everything equal.
06:04:48.800
So they're trying to push more women and diversity.
06:05:21.380
I know what I do at my job, and I stay until everything is finished.
06:05:27.260
But if there were stats to show, for example, that men are more likely to work overtime, they're more willing to work longer hours.
06:05:48.720
If there's literally statistics from, like, the Bureau of Labor Statistics or whatever other, you know, organization releases these kind of statistics.
06:05:58.280
If it actually shows that men work more hours than women, and they work longer hours than women, and then they work more overtime, and they work more over hazard pay, and they're more likely to do night shift, graveyard shift, which tends to be paid more.
06:06:15.200
Then how can you not come to the conclusion that men are going to be paid more under these circumstances?
06:06:26.460
No, it is generalizing, because statistically, yeah, that's higher.
06:06:30.480
But earlier when I was talking about statistics, you're talking about, oh, well, that's generalizing.
06:06:37.840
Hours ago when we were talking about something else.
06:06:42.040
You can't say that statistically because men do this more often that every man will do that, and you can't say statistically that because women will do it less often that not a single woman is going to work the graveyard shift or work the overtime.
06:06:55.720
I'm not saying that women can't or don't do that.
06:07:00.520
So if you're hiring two people and you see same qualifications, you're going to hire the man because of the statistics?
06:07:12.680
I'm saying why at the end of the day it could be the case.
06:07:16.460
There's many factors that relate to the uncontrolled gender pay gap, and those are a few of them.
06:07:29.160
Also, I'm actually not sure if there would actually be anything wrong if knowing these things about how men and women tend to work differently.
06:07:38.160
Because that's generalizing, and we've come to the conclusion that generalizing is wrong.
06:07:44.720
You run a factory, and in this factory, you need to carry 100 pounds from point A to point B throughout an entire eight-hour work shift.
06:07:54.500
You know that men are going to be able to do that better.
06:07:59.840
Maybe you pay the men a bit more, but they're going to be able to do the job better.
06:08:03.060
They're less likely to get injured if they do it.
06:08:17.700
So what if a woman comes up, and she's in the same interview, interviewing for that job, and she says that she can do all of that?
06:08:23.620
Are you just going to not believe her because she's a woman?
06:08:41.640
I actually think part of this, if there even is a pay gap, it's women's fault.
06:09:06.860
What percentage of women have her expectation that men should pay for first dates?
06:09:17.500
Well, let's just, do you think like 50% of women are conservative women?
06:09:29.140
In California, I would say it's a pretty low percentage.
06:09:36.800
Of course, we have to grant that there's plenty of liberal women that still want men to be traditional and pay for first dates, right?
06:09:44.680
So, not only that, not only do these women want men to pay for first dates, they want men to be providers.
06:09:50.980
They're attracted to men who are successful and ambitious and all these things.
06:09:54.500
So, women's own sexual preferences and dating desires actually dictate that men will have more motivation to achieve, to become successful, because women place a mating pressure on men that men don't place on women.
06:10:09.120
And so, on this basis alone, I think it would explain away, as opposed, again, I reject that there is a pay gap.
06:10:15.840
It explains away the pay gap because of women, if it even exists, because women place a profound and significant mating pressure on men to be providers and to pay for first dates.
06:10:28.980
Men are very motivated, well, both women and men are motivated by their romantic prospects.
06:10:34.040
And if men can't get romance, they can't get a partner, they can't date, because they're not financially attractive to a woman, they can't pay for a first date, they're going to be zeroed out in the dating marketplace.
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Men don't zero out women because women don't pay for dates.
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So, it's women's fault, because of the mating pressure women place on men for this supposed pay gap, which doesn't even exist, but just for the sake of argument, it's women's fault.
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So, once again, generalizing, not all women are like that.
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Even if it's a minority of women, even if it's 40% of women demands that men pay for first dates, that is such a significant amount of women.
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As to make it a, I mean, 40%, right, it would create a massive pressure on men to fall into the provider role.
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Because if they don't, they can't attract a woman.
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If they don't pay for a first date, they're not going to get a second date.
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If they don't pay for dates, they're not going to get laid.
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Well, according to you, the pay gap doesn't exist, so why are you arguing against it?
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You're trying to make an argument against it, and now it doesn't exist.
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Only one woman ever worked as long and hard as the men.
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She dates my older brother now because he values her work ethic.
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My girlfriend told me she used to get gangbanged before we met.
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I knew she was a college student, and I know how college works, but I thought she was different.
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We went out to drink with her friends, and they started talking about all the things they did.
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I never asked her about her body count or anything.
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You don't know if you want to break up after you heard she got gangbanged?
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What if she's like a reformed, born-again Christian?
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Okay, so that's the same logic as saying that you were bisexual, and there's no going back from that.
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If a guy has a problem with that, then he shouldn't be with me.
06:13:32.760
Yeah, so if they have a problem with that, then they shouldn't be with her.
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If she's not okay with it, he should break up with her.
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We're going into the roast section, so get your TTSs in, then we'll wrap up the show here,
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No, I told you it was getting wicked weak, and then I tried to grab it, and now it's woken back up.
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Because Brian told me to stop trying to get the bird.
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Also, Big Labia Matter, but also $30 TTSs if you want to get it in.
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Anyone from the panel, any disagreements you have with anything I've said or like from previous shows or anything?
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Willing to spend money and take me out is a must.
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I know how to be an amazing partner, and I want the same.
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Prefer to date men with good paying jobs because I need stability.
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Also, I'm pretty hot and deserve a good man at this point in my existence.
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Well, actually, I don't know if she has that many tats.
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But she wants a guy to be a provider, but she's a feminist.
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She believes in equality, but also the guy should be a provider.
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Also, when are you bringing Asmongold on the panel?
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Just saying, under child labor laws, minors are required to work less hours equals less
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If you worked more than 18 hours at ages below 18, it is illegal.
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How are you equaling out 40 hours a week at 16?
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I was working 16-hour back-to-back shifts, and it was completely illegal.
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We'll do the bow video, then we'll do the drama.
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Let's see what she, let's see what we're working on.
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Some of these photos are she's like an actual kid.
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when the bird and dragonfly entered the studio.
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You are perfect reason as to why they should be.
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Blaming Asmongold for not leaving Texas is unfair.
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Also, a four with pay's worldview is more attractive than an eight with number two's worldview.
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What's weird to me, I'm not speaking specifically about you, but so a girl within 30 minutes
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You legit called a supermodel almost approaching a nine.
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Look, you know, a lot of beautiful women in Santa Barbara.
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Adriana Lima, she's a very beautiful woman, but you know what I mean, Paladins.
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Have you seen a woman prettier than her in Santa Barbara?
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That shit makes them uglier if they have work done.
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No, a girl will like meet a guy and within 30 minutes of meeting him at some party be like
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You would need a binding resolution against me.
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If I can get her to S-My-D, I can get her to bow for me.
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The reason your panelists don't want to bow for you is because they don't think you are attractive.
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So, from the point you met to the point y'all had carnal knowledge, how much time passed?
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I feel like a one-night stand is when you meet somebody, you have...
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You meet them, and then that same night, you have the carnal knowledge.
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What if that's not the type of one-night stand you've had?
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This can even include, like, you did do that, but then you kept seeing them.
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You've never been at a party, and then, like, boom, boom, boom, one hour, 35 minutes later?
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No, men like to actually talk to me, because I'm entertaining to talk to.
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So, I have conversation with them before I fuck them.
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How quick from, like, coming to the ranch, how quick from, like, hi, I pick you, Lexi,
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Usually, it'll take about as long as it takes for us to complete this panel podcast tonight.
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The dude that got sex after only six hours of listening to her drivel got the better deal.
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I'm just saying, I'm just saying, bro, a girl will let you, like, literally blast on her face
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within hours of meeting, but you ask her for a bow, and that's where she draws the line.
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A girl will let you put your penis inside of her, but she won't cook you a meal.
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I thought we were talking about one night's hands, though.
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I knew a guy for only a few hours, and I did hook up with him, and then we got in a serious
06:27:09.060
No, but, okay, the same women who will, like, I'll fuck a dude within hours of meeting,
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You know, women have sex with men for their pleasure, too, right?
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Right, and a woman bows to a man also for her pleasure.
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Wait, didn't you just say earlier that, like, most of these women aren't coming?
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No, yeah, because, yeah, I do have, like, people do have sex for pleasure, but then they
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But if they suck at sex, then you don't get it, but you go into it thinking, hmm, I want
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They're not just doing it because they want to do the guy a favor.
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No one's, like, doing charity work and giving pussy because they feel like being nice.
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Like, they'll enjoy the sex still, but I've heard a lot of women say, like, oh, like, I
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That's only if you're, like, serious about someone, not, like, One Night Stand-y.
06:28:54.060
No, not me personally, but I'm saying there are women that see an attractive guy.
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I think that having sex with them will get them in a relationship and get them interested.
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Yeah, no, that's what I mean by, like, if you're serious about it.
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Disinfect the mics and the poor green vape passed around.
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I mean, we're just doing TTS through Streamlabs.
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Intel Wild, I do appreciate your super chat, man.
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Guys, $30 TTS, last call, last call, guys, last call.
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Before I get into the drama, I'm going to address the freaking drama, boys.
06:30:13.080
Well, actually, there's new drama, so the old drama that I was going to address,
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I still need to address, but that's going to have to be another day.
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You've got to do the drama in that voice you were doing.
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I think I would only date a woman if she knew how to churn butter.
06:30:40.320
Yeah, you don't actually have to churn the butter to make the butter.
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You can just put it in a mason jar and make butter that way.
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Brian underscore nicer underscore without Andrew donated $30.
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Hypocrite pick me girl next to the soldier tried to play her videos off as cooking,
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but it's really her dancing around in revealing clothes and positions.
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So, last night, I'm friggin' prepping for the show, and I get a text.
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A bunch of people start texting me like, bro, people are blowing you up on Twitter.
06:32:12.960
Engaging in dialogue with Blondie is mentally exhausting to the point where I would prefer
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the physical discomfort of getting intimate with a cactus, as it would be less painful.
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I love how these entitled feminists are literally ungrateful for what men have done to make
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them comfortable enough to make bold idiot statements on a large platform.
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I'm telling you, you guys got to be a bit more thankful for the men.
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Because if it wasn't for us, there wouldn't be electricity.
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Straight up, we got Benjamin Franklin right here.
06:33:20.400
I think men deserve a little more respect, bro.
06:33:25.400
You guys wouldn't be able to doom scroll on TikTok if it wasn't for us.
06:33:49.440
Jake Shields, former UFC champion or something.
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We've actually, we DM'd before and it was very pleasant.
06:34:02.260
I don't really talk shit about people or start beef with them.
06:34:22.540
Brian, I'm interested in starting a Shadow Priest in WoW.
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Looking for any inputs you have in the best way to min slash max that class.
06:34:33.480
I only, I don't play World of Warcraft anymore.
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Never played Shadow Priest because you want a raid spot.
06:34:42.100
They're probably not giving it to Shadow Priest unless you're like a guild leader or an officer.
06:34:55.240
And then just for funsies, I'll alt warlock and then mage in that order.
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That's what I do when I play classic World of Warcraft, which I quit in 2020.
06:35:11.580
What do you think about the loot system, loot council?
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Is it abused by the guild leaders and the officers?
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Quick answer or long answer, whatever you want.
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I have no fucking idea what you're talking about right now.
06:35:33.520
Would you date a man who played a female gnome warlock?
06:35:54.720
So that's like why people like gnome for caster.
06:36:38.340
The Whatever Podcast is a show designed to divide the sexes and make women look like dumb whores.
06:36:45.100
The Daily Wire regularly sends over their talent to amplify and help make the podcast larger.
06:36:49.960
I have a source at The Wire telling me that they are trying to buy the Whatever Podcast.
06:36:54.280
Why does a conservative site want to push this garbage?
06:37:16.200
We haven't had a long Warcraft rant in a few weeks.
06:37:41.120
One day ago, you platformed on your podcast, the man who still does and popularized, the
06:37:49.100
In fact, as recently as April 11th, 2024, you were on their show and participated in the
06:37:58.800
So on the right there is Jake Shields, the guy with the hat.
06:38:05.180
On the very format of show in which he is criticizing.
06:38:12.520
Given that you view this sort of format as garbage and take such great issue with it,
06:38:16.060
have you raised your concerns with the people you are regularly in contact with who you've
06:38:19.960
recently met in person who make this exact same kind of content?
06:38:23.720
To your second false statement, we've had Michael Knowles on the show two times.
06:38:30.260
And in the two plus years we've been doing the show, Michael was last on the show about
06:38:35.000
Maybe we have different definitions of the word regular.
06:38:38.540
Though if you consider this regular, I'd point out it's less regular than how often you support,
06:38:42.540
collaborate, and appear on a channel podcast that you yourself would have to describe as
06:38:48.360
designed to divide the sexes and make women look like dumb whores.
06:38:52.060
To your third false statement, there's no communication between whatever and the daily
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wire about any sort of acquisition partnership or anything to that effect.
06:39:03.660
And then he tweeted a whole bunch of extra shit and that's the only thing I've said.
06:39:30.600
I actually, I mean, he basically just shifted it, like shifted the goalposts essentially.
06:39:35.900
But, um, anyways, I don't have a beef with this guy.
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In fact, we DM'd a long time ago, invited him on the show.
06:39:46.060
Um, it didn't, we never scheduled it or anything, but, uh, just kind of weird.
06:39:55.740
What I'm confused about is like, he's homies with people who do the same kind of format show.
06:40:04.940
I invited him to debate, but he, actually, fuck, can we, Nick, can you go to the Twitter?
06:40:27.160
Any final thoughts from any of the, uh, the, uh, the ladies before we wrap the show?
06:40:51.040
I, I really try to avoid all, most of the time if somebody says some bullshit on Twitter,
06:40:57.400
But occasionally I get fucking, it's annoying when, especially if they like just are making
06:41:03.180
Like if somebody just talks shit and they're, they say something like this person sucks,
06:41:08.740
but when they start like saying like false accusations, that's when I really get, feel
06:41:28.660
Brian sweatpants tells sweet lies, stop wearing them.
06:41:32.300
Lift weights, 45 minutes, three to five times a week.
06:42:19.060
I was going to ask what the other drama was, but you said you'll do that another time.
06:42:40.820
I have an update on the Scammer, but it's late, so I want to get people out of here.
06:42:47.360
Is there any other reacts, or are we all good, Nick?
06:42:57.000
Last call on the, if you want to get it roasted, Maddie really needs to be roasted.
06:43:16.340
She needs to be brought back down to earth a little bit.
06:43:19.400
Maddie, your dress looks like Little House on the Prairie.
06:43:31.640
You want to send you Stavo back here so we can see this stuff?
06:43:34.600
You want to send you Stavo back here so we can see this stuff?
06:44:03.300
So, those of you watching, well, before, we're not going to pull it up quite yet.
06:44:27.680
Wait, are you talking about Ava or are you talking about me?
06:44:39.660
There's new developments in the scam that you're aware of.
06:44:47.440
By the way, Beaten Cheeks, I'm going to make you a custom TTS thing.
06:44:56.700
We'll get you a custom TTS, just like how Grid won and how Law Paladins have it.
06:45:02.140
I want to get it done for a couple of the other regular super chatters.
06:45:07.180
So, just double-check in here if we got everything.
06:45:30.100
Oh, by the way, the chat's been saying they'd really like to see you on with Andrew Wilson.
06:45:42.160
I think you guys would have some good conversation if you're interested.
06:46:09.380
Are we not going to bring up the fact that Gustavo is 10 years older and has been hitting the TRT hard?
06:46:29.040
We have not had a sprinkler in a very long time.
06:47:13.720
World War II is, I don't know, like 1930 to 1945.
06:47:31.480
I already told you I didn't go to college because I had bad grades in high school.
06:47:41.640
I go to SBCC, so I could not get into college with my grades.
06:47:49.000
Reality blown underscore on underscore X donated $33.33.
06:47:57.280
That being said, as a Marine, the primary victim of war is men.
06:48:04.540
Blondie would be destroyed by Andrew, not even fun.
06:48:16.900
I think she would have a really good convo with Andrew and actually have a convo.
06:48:33.840
I know one of them either started or ended during 1912.
06:48:39.040
1912 is like a date I have engraved in my brain for some reason.
06:48:45.160
Okay, I'm also at a CC because I would not get into a four-year with my grades.
06:49:02.160
Brian, do you know or are you looking it up right now?
06:49:08.780
Yeah, but you were just clicking around on your laptop.
06:49:24.880
I'd like to end the show by seeing if you can't use this moment as an opportunity to give you a call to action.
06:49:35.060
Right now on the Whatever Podcast, making a commitment.
06:49:43.200
Yeah, but like why would I make that commitment?
06:49:47.340
The offer is Maddie will take you under her wing on how to be an independent boss babe that doesn't do sex work.
06:50:19.400
Maddie, are you switching to the dark side yourself?
06:50:29.440
I'll get you linked up with my maple syrup conglomerate.
06:50:37.900
No, we just wanted you to be living in poverty.
06:50:52.860
I know you'd love to just stay here and talk about maple syrup, but I got...
06:50:58.520
Guys, don't forget, I'm running a $5 special on my OnlyFans.
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06:51:43.700
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06:52:18.400
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06:52:21.760
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06:52:38.620
I don't know if we might be doing something else, like an off day on Friday or Saturday.
06:52:46.660
In any case, though, Dating Talk will be live again Sunday, 5 p.m. Pacific.
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